<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_08_197202</id>
	<title>Apple's WWDC Unveils iPhone 3.0, OpenCL, Laptop Updates, and More</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1244488860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Lots of <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/phil-schiller-keynote-live-from-wwdc-2009/">big news from WWDC today</a> including updates to almost all of Apple's laptops.  They added a 13-inch version to the MacBook Pro line, updated the MacBook Air, and added a few new ports to some of the machines including an SD slot and firewire 800 port.  Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard. The iPhone got quite a bit of love in 3.0, much of it just confirming older news.  Cut, copy, and paste, shake to undo, developer APIs, Cocoa Touch support for text, landscape mode updates, spotlight, and MMS all made the bullet list.  You will now also be able to rent and purchase movies directly from your iPhone.  Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability, allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem (unfortunately there was no mention of AT&amp;T actually supporting this feature, a wonder there wasn't a riot), integrated TomTom GPS navigation, and game features galore.  New functionality also allows you to locate your iPhone via MobileMe, play a sound to help you locate it (regardless if it is set to silent), and even wipe your data remotely.  The New iPhone hardware updates, "3GS", adds a 3 megapixel auto-focus camera, voice interfaces, twice the processing power, and hardware encryption.  The 3GS comes in 16GB ($199) and 32GB ($299), pushing the 3G (which they are keeping on the market) to $99.  Lots of other small updates amidst the bustle, looks like another successful WWDC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of big news from WWDC today including updates to almost all of Apple 's laptops .
They added a 13-inch version to the MacBook Pro line , updated the MacBook Air , and added a few new ports to some of the machines including an SD slot and firewire 800 port .
Software updates saw Safari 4 launched , OS X updates including threading changes , Exchange support to mail , calendar , and address book , and OpenCL a new open graphics standard .
The iPhone got quite a bit of love in 3.0 , much of it just confirming older news .
Cut , copy , and paste , shake to undo , developer APIs , Cocoa Touch support for text , landscape mode updates , spotlight , and MMS all made the bullet list .
You will now also be able to rent and purchase movies directly from your iPhone .
Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability , allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem ( unfortunately there was no mention of AT&amp;T actually supporting this feature , a wonder there was n't a riot ) , integrated TomTom GPS navigation , and game features galore .
New functionality also allows you to locate your iPhone via MobileMe , play a sound to help you locate it ( regardless if it is set to silent ) , and even wipe your data remotely .
The New iPhone hardware updates , " 3GS " , adds a 3 megapixel auto-focus camera , voice interfaces , twice the processing power , and hardware encryption .
The 3GS comes in 16GB ( $ 199 ) and 32GB ( $ 299 ) , pushing the 3G ( which they are keeping on the market ) to $ 99 .
Lots of other small updates amidst the bustle , looks like another successful WWDC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of big news from WWDC today including updates to almost all of Apple's laptops.
They added a 13-inch version to the MacBook Pro line, updated the MacBook Air, and added a few new ports to some of the machines including an SD slot and firewire 800 port.
Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.
The iPhone got quite a bit of love in 3.0, much of it just confirming older news.
Cut, copy, and paste, shake to undo, developer APIs, Cocoa Touch support for text, landscape mode updates, spotlight, and MMS all made the bullet list.
You will now also be able to rent and purchase movies directly from your iPhone.
Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability, allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem (unfortunately there was no mention of AT&amp;T actually supporting this feature, a wonder there wasn't a riot), integrated TomTom GPS navigation, and game features galore.
New functionality also allows you to locate your iPhone via MobileMe, play a sound to help you locate it (regardless if it is set to silent), and even wipe your data remotely.
The New iPhone hardware updates, "3GS", adds a 3 megapixel auto-focus camera, voice interfaces, twice the processing power, and hardware encryption.
The 3GS comes in 16GB ($199) and 32GB ($299), pushing the 3G (which they are keeping on the market) to $99.
Lots of other small updates amidst the bustle, looks like another successful WWDC.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255165</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>\_Hiro\_</author>
	<datestamp>1244494500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't AT&amp;T let you sign a new contract for a discount on a phone after your 2-year is up?</p><p>I know Alltel, Verizon, AND T-Mobile all do.</p><p>Maybe Apple's website just isn't setup to do renewals, and you have to go to an AT&amp;T store?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't AT&amp;T let you sign a new contract for a discount on a phone after your 2-year is up ? I know Alltel , Verizon , AND T-Mobile all do.Maybe Apple 's website just is n't setup to do renewals , and you have to go to an AT&amp;T store ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't AT&amp;T let you sign a new contract for a discount on a phone after your 2-year is up?I know Alltel, Verizon, AND T-Mobile all do.Maybe Apple's website just isn't setup to do renewals, and you have to go to an AT&amp;T store?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256631</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using OpenCL to do graphics would certainly not be stupid.  In fact, I'd love to use OpenCL for rendering graphics.   It would really speed up non-realtime rendering, so that a frame that takes several seconds (or even minutes) to render using just the CPU might render in less than a second using OpenCL.  This would really benefit anyone who is rendering an animation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using OpenCL to do graphics would certainly not be stupid .
In fact , I 'd love to use OpenCL for rendering graphics .
It would really speed up non-realtime rendering , so that a frame that takes several seconds ( or even minutes ) to render using just the CPU might render in less than a second using OpenCL .
This would really benefit anyone who is rendering an animation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using OpenCL to do graphics would certainly not be stupid.
In fact, I'd love to use OpenCL for rendering graphics.
It would really speed up non-realtime rendering, so that a frame that takes several seconds (or even minutes) to render using just the CPU might render in less than a second using OpenCL.
This would really benefit anyone who is rendering an animation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257825</id>
	<title>Finder Blues</title>
	<author>Sideswiped</author>
	<datestamp>1244460240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No major updates to Finder's functionality. Ugh!</p><p>Compared to Vista/Win 7's explorer, Finder is one of the areas I really find lacking, that and horrid mouse acceleration. In Windows 7 the folder tree navigator with a detail view is exactly what I need. I don't want to have to toggle between tree and details view just to get a decent look at my documents. I have reservations about Windows address bar's IE styling, but its functionality is spot on. Navigating back out of directories is a breeze and I always know where my folders are located on my drives. In contrast, breadcrumbs in osX are buried in text menus and the  "Path" drop down menu is hidden by default.</p><p>Thankfully the $30 upgrade fee is very reasonable and I'm looking forward to having my bootcamp partition recognize my mac partition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No major updates to Finder 's functionality .
Ugh ! Compared to Vista/Win 7 's explorer , Finder is one of the areas I really find lacking , that and horrid mouse acceleration .
In Windows 7 the folder tree navigator with a detail view is exactly what I need .
I do n't want to have to toggle between tree and details view just to get a decent look at my documents .
I have reservations about Windows address bar 's IE styling , but its functionality is spot on .
Navigating back out of directories is a breeze and I always know where my folders are located on my drives .
In contrast , breadcrumbs in osX are buried in text menus and the " Path " drop down menu is hidden by default.Thankfully the $ 30 upgrade fee is very reasonable and I 'm looking forward to having my bootcamp partition recognize my mac partition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No major updates to Finder's functionality.
Ugh!Compared to Vista/Win 7's explorer, Finder is one of the areas I really find lacking, that and horrid mouse acceleration.
In Windows 7 the folder tree navigator with a detail view is exactly what I need.
I don't want to have to toggle between tree and details view just to get a decent look at my documents.
I have reservations about Windows address bar's IE styling, but its functionality is spot on.
Navigating back out of directories is a breeze and I always know where my folders are located on my drives.
In contrast, breadcrumbs in osX are buried in text menus and the  "Path" drop down menu is hidden by default.Thankfully the $30 upgrade fee is very reasonable and I'm looking forward to having my bootcamp partition recognize my mac partition.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257217</id>
	<title>AT&amp;T has confirmed tethering will be offered</title>
	<author>Shivetya</author>
	<datestamp>1244457960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They just didn't have an announcement ready.</p><p>See the engadget article, while brief confirms its availability <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/atandt-well-offer-tethering-on-the-iphone/" title="engadget.com">http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/atandt-well-offer-tethering-on-the-iphone/</a> [engadget.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They just did n't have an announcement ready.See the engadget article , while brief confirms its availability http : //www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/atandt-well-offer-tethering-on-the-iphone/ [ engadget.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just didn't have an announcement ready.See the engadget article, while brief confirms its availability http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/08/atandt-well-offer-tethering-on-the-iphone/ [engadget.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254725</id>
	<title>Security on auto-locate feature?</title>
	<author>Turken</author>
	<datestamp>1244493060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope there's good security on the auto-locate feature.  Aside from the obvious "prank" of remotely wiping someone's iphone, I can also see this being abused for such things as spying on people's locations, or perhaps less invasive but more annoying... a "loved one" forcing your phone to ring when you already set it to silent for a meeting or movie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope there 's good security on the auto-locate feature .
Aside from the obvious " prank " of remotely wiping someone 's iphone , I can also see this being abused for such things as spying on people 's locations , or perhaps less invasive but more annoying... a " loved one " forcing your phone to ring when you already set it to silent for a meeting or movie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope there's good security on the auto-locate feature.
Aside from the obvious "prank" of remotely wiping someone's iphone, I can also see this being abused for such things as spying on people's locations, or perhaps less invasive but more annoying... a "loved one" forcing your phone to ring when you already set it to silent for a meeting or movie.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256347</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244454720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros,</i></p><p>While the ExpressCard was dropped from the 15" and there's not one in the new 13" MacBook Pro, the 17" model still has the slot.  That new 13 MBP only costs $1200 too.</p><p><i>What was with the Windows-bashing? They didn't even give a reason. All they said was that it's built on top of Vista... well, duh? Snow Leopard is built on top of Leopard.</i></p><p>Whereas Leopard is a good OS Vista sucks.  <a href="http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2007/09/amid-disappointing-vista-uptake-microsoft-relents-on-xp-execution.ars" title="arstechnica.com">Vista uptake</a> [arstechnica.com] has been slow.  When it came out Vista also required the latest beefed up hardware.  Leopard ran fine on old Macs though, it will run on a PowerPC G4.  While Snow Leopard will not run on PowerPC hardware it will run on 3 year old Intel Macs.</p><p><i>Too many of my friends were turned off by the unnecessary Windows-bashing; I guess if Apple was trying to win over the enterprise crowd, they did a good job of alienating them right from the start.</i></p><p>While Apple pours the Microsoft bashing, anyone who let's marketing and not capability influence them then I don't think their opinion matters much.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros,While the ExpressCard was dropped from the 15 " and there 's not one in the new 13 " MacBook Pro , the 17 " model still has the slot .
That new 13 MBP only costs $ 1200 too.What was with the Windows-bashing ?
They did n't even give a reason .
All they said was that it 's built on top of Vista... well , duh ?
Snow Leopard is built on top of Leopard.Whereas Leopard is a good OS Vista sucks .
Vista uptake [ arstechnica.com ] has been slow .
When it came out Vista also required the latest beefed up hardware .
Leopard ran fine on old Macs though , it will run on a PowerPC G4 .
While Snow Leopard will not run on PowerPC hardware it will run on 3 year old Intel Macs.Too many of my friends were turned off by the unnecessary Windows-bashing ; I guess if Apple was trying to win over the enterprise crowd , they did a good job of alienating them right from the start.While Apple pours the Microsoft bashing , anyone who let 's marketing and not capability influence them then I do n't think their opinion matters much .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros,While the ExpressCard was dropped from the 15" and there's not one in the new 13" MacBook Pro, the 17" model still has the slot.
That new 13 MBP only costs $1200 too.What was with the Windows-bashing?
They didn't even give a reason.
All they said was that it's built on top of Vista... well, duh?
Snow Leopard is built on top of Leopard.Whereas Leopard is a good OS Vista sucks.
Vista uptake [arstechnica.com] has been slow.
When it came out Vista also required the latest beefed up hardware.
Leopard ran fine on old Macs though, it will run on a PowerPC G4.
While Snow Leopard will not run on PowerPC hardware it will run on 3 year old Intel Macs.Too many of my friends were turned off by the unnecessary Windows-bashing; I guess if Apple was trying to win over the enterprise crowd, they did a good job of alienating them right from the start.While Apple pours the Microsoft bashing, anyone who let's marketing and not capability influence them then I don't think their opinion matters much.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255697</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>EastCoastSurfer</author>
	<datestamp>1244452740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>5 minutes on the internet  in February would have shown you that Apple usually updates the iPhones around this time every year.</p><p>Also, technology in general drops in price over time.  I have some news for you.  That computer you bought today is going to be cheaper 1 month from now.  It might not even be for sale 9-12 months from now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>5 minutes on the internet in February would have shown you that Apple usually updates the iPhones around this time every year.Also , technology in general drops in price over time .
I have some news for you .
That computer you bought today is going to be cheaper 1 month from now .
It might not even be for sale 9-12 months from now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>5 minutes on the internet  in February would have shown you that Apple usually updates the iPhones around this time every year.Also, technology in general drops in price over time.
I have some news for you.
That computer you bought today is going to be cheaper 1 month from now.
It might not even be for sale 9-12 months from now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256123</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>beelsebob</author>
	<datestamp>1244454000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wouldn't be stupid at all to use OpenCL for graphics.  It's shaders, only much much more general.  This lets you do all sorts of fun stuff with it (like for example, see the many CUDA real time ray tracers).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would n't be stupid at all to use OpenCL for graphics .
It 's shaders , only much much more general .
This lets you do all sorts of fun stuff with it ( like for example , see the many CUDA real time ray tracers ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wouldn't be stupid at all to use OpenCL for graphics.
It's shaders, only much much more general.
This lets you do all sorts of fun stuff with it (like for example, see the many CUDA real time ray tracers).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257717</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1244459880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You're seriously complaining that the tech toy you bought went down in price and was replaced by a newer, better model?</p> </div><p>I know, right?  Try getting married!  At least if you trash your iphone for a newer better model you're only out a few hundred bucks.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're seriously complaining that the tech toy you bought went down in price and was replaced by a newer , better model ?
I know , right ?
Try getting married !
At least if you trash your iphone for a newer better model you 're only out a few hundred bucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're seriously complaining that the tech toy you bought went down in price and was replaced by a newer, better model?
I know, right?
Try getting married!
At least if you trash your iphone for a newer better model you're only out a few hundred bucks.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258479</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244463240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>eh? please don't misinform people about rates. The upgrade rates for existing AT&amp;T customers (incl those who own an iPhone) are, with 2-year contract,
<ul>
      <li>$99.00 : 8GB iPhone 3G (black)</li>
    <li>$199.00 : 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)</li>
    <li>$299.00 : 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)</li>
</ul><p>

These are numbers i got from apple.com as I went through the upgrade process - I am an existing AT&amp;T customer with an old (first gen) iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>eh ?
please do n't misinform people about rates .
The upgrade rates for existing AT&amp;T customers ( incl those who own an iPhone ) are , with 2-year contract , $ 99.00 : 8GB iPhone 3G ( black ) $ 199.00 : 16GB iPhone 3G S ( black or white ) $ 299.00 : 32GB iPhone 3G S ( black or white ) These are numbers i got from apple.com as I went through the upgrade process - I am an existing AT&amp;T customer with an old ( first gen ) iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eh?
please don't misinform people about rates.
The upgrade rates for existing AT&amp;T customers (incl those who own an iPhone) are, with 2-year contract,

      $99.00 : 8GB iPhone 3G (black)
    $199.00 : 16GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)
    $299.00 : 32GB iPhone 3G S (black or white)


These are numbers i got from apple.com as I went through the upgrade process - I am an existing AT&amp;T customer with an old (first gen) iPhone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28275195</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>velen</author>
	<datestamp>1244568420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"32-bit compatible.<br>To ensure simplicity and flexibility, Mac OS X still comes in one version that runs both 64-bit and 32-bit applications. So you don&#226;(TM)t need to update everything on your system just to run a single 64-bit program. And new 64-bit applications work just fine with your existing printers, storage devices, and PCI cards."</p><p>Vista x64 is better than XP x64 because of driver support.  But breaking compatibility with a full transition to 64bit computing is bad.  I personally prefer the OS X route.  The migration path has been much simpler.  Besides, with the new LLVM compilers, you get performance improvements all over the place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" 32-bit compatible.To ensure simplicity and flexibility , Mac OS X still comes in one version that runs both 64-bit and 32-bit applications .
So you don   ( TM ) t need to update everything on your system just to run a single 64-bit program .
And new 64-bit applications work just fine with your existing printers , storage devices , and PCI cards .
" Vista x64 is better than XP x64 because of driver support .
But breaking compatibility with a full transition to 64bit computing is bad .
I personally prefer the OS X route .
The migration path has been much simpler .
Besides , with the new LLVM compilers , you get performance improvements all over the place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"32-bit compatible.To ensure simplicity and flexibility, Mac OS X still comes in one version that runs both 64-bit and 32-bit applications.
So you donâ(TM)t need to update everything on your system just to run a single 64-bit program.
And new 64-bit applications work just fine with your existing printers, storage devices, and PCI cards.
"Vista x64 is better than XP x64 because of driver support.
But breaking compatibility with a full transition to 64bit computing is bad.
I personally prefer the OS X route.
The migration path has been much simpler.
Besides, with the new LLVM compilers, you get performance improvements all over the place.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28264853</id>
	<title>A few questions for the it crowd</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244558760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was looking forward to a bigger pricedrop on the SSDs in the MBP (the computer formerly known as the MacBook, reintroducing the old white is a bit weird to be honest. it went iBook / Powerbook &gt; MacBook / MacBook Pro &gt; iBookesque / MacBookesque 'Pro'. Just saying, bringing back the old case and relabeling it seems a bit unapple), is it worth adopting SSD now? Will the speed be noticeable? And what about the 187$ (Danish prices) MacBook 13" price difference for 0.27GHz, does that really matter if you're running on SSD, 4GB Ram and decent gfx cards?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was looking forward to a bigger pricedrop on the SSDs in the MBP ( the computer formerly known as the MacBook , reintroducing the old white is a bit weird to be honest .
it went iBook / Powerbook &gt; MacBook / MacBook Pro &gt; iBookesque / MacBookesque 'Pro' .
Just saying , bringing back the old case and relabeling it seems a bit unapple ) , is it worth adopting SSD now ?
Will the speed be noticeable ?
And what about the 187 $ ( Danish prices ) MacBook 13 " price difference for 0.27GHz , does that really matter if you 're running on SSD , 4GB Ram and decent gfx cards ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was looking forward to a bigger pricedrop on the SSDs in the MBP (the computer formerly known as the MacBook, reintroducing the old white is a bit weird to be honest.
it went iBook / Powerbook &gt; MacBook / MacBook Pro &gt; iBookesque / MacBookesque 'Pro'.
Just saying, bringing back the old case and relabeling it seems a bit unapple), is it worth adopting SSD now?
Will the speed be noticeable?
And what about the 187$ (Danish prices) MacBook 13" price difference for 0.27GHz, does that really matter if you're running on SSD, 4GB Ram and decent gfx cards?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257457</id>
	<title>Re:Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Couldn't they have Bourned their competitors instead?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't they have Bourned their competitors instead ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't they have Bourned their competitors instead?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254699</id>
	<title>So no iPod Touch refresh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, no iPod Touch refresh?<br>Just a software update?</p><p>Very disappointing for those of use unwilling to cozy up to AT&amp;T.<br>Too expensive.  No real coverage in my area.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , no iPod Touch refresh ? Just a software update ? Very disappointing for those of use unwilling to cozy up to AT&amp;T.Too expensive .
No real coverage in my area .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, no iPod Touch refresh?Just a software update?Very disappointing for those of use unwilling to cozy up to AT&amp;T.Too expensive.
No real coverage in my area.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28261427</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1244481240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could replace the battery yourself. It's not hot-glued into a hard to get at place or anything hard. You just undo a few screws, peel off a piece of warning tape and pull the connector.</p><p>Now, whether Apple are going to tolerate you replacing the battery yourself and still cover most of your warranty is a more pressing issue, IMHO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could replace the battery yourself .
It 's not hot-glued into a hard to get at place or anything hard .
You just undo a few screws , peel off a piece of warning tape and pull the connector.Now , whether Apple are going to tolerate you replacing the battery yourself and still cover most of your warranty is a more pressing issue , IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could replace the battery yourself.
It's not hot-glued into a hard to get at place or anything hard.
You just undo a few screws, peel off a piece of warning tape and pull the connector.Now, whether Apple are going to tolerate you replacing the battery yourself and still cover most of your warranty is a more pressing issue, IMHO.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256147</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254717</id>
	<title>popup alerts on the iphone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Push alerts to the iPhone.  Here comes the pin the tail on the donkey pop up adds on the iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Push alerts to the iPhone .
Here comes the pin the tail on the donkey pop up adds on the iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Push alerts to the iPhone.
Here comes the pin the tail on the donkey pop up adds on the iPhone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255025</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244494080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>FTA: <i>and OpenCL a new open graphics standard</i> </p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Not quite.</a> [wikipedia.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr><i>...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs, GPUs, and other processors.</i> </p><p>OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name.  The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well.  You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.</p></div><p>Why would it be so stupid? OpenGL sucks for doing specialized graphics work; it's designed to be a noisy, triangle-pushing machine, not for Photoshop quality images in non-realtime. OpenCL fits the bill as the ultimate photo studio accelerator more so than any other API does at the moment.
<br> <br>
OpenCL might have been designed to be a generalized compute API, but 9/10 of the apps that immediately use it in the first few months will be graphical applications (Photoshop &amp; imitators, maybe Adobe's Flash), with the 10th being someone's Big Budget sound studio app (Reason/Live/etc). It will be months before anyone has general utility of the API.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : and OpenCL a new open graphics standard Not quite .
[ wikipedia.org ] ...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs , GPUs , and other processors .
OpenCL is like CUDA , but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL , hence the name .
The same guys who manage OpenGL ( Khronos ) manage OpenCL as well .
You could probably use it to do graphics , but that would be stupid.Why would it be so stupid ?
OpenGL sucks for doing specialized graphics work ; it 's designed to be a noisy , triangle-pushing machine , not for Photoshop quality images in non-realtime .
OpenCL fits the bill as the ultimate photo studio accelerator more so than any other API does at the moment .
OpenCL might have been designed to be a generalized compute API , but 9/10 of the apps that immediately use it in the first few months will be graphical applications ( Photoshop &amp; imitators , maybe Adobe 's Flash ) , with the 10th being someone 's Big Budget sound studio app ( Reason/Live/etc ) .
It will be months before anyone has general utility of the API .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA: and OpenCL a new open graphics standard  Not quite.
[wikipedia.org] ...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs, GPUs, and other processors.
OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name.
The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well.
You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.Why would it be so stupid?
OpenGL sucks for doing specialized graphics work; it's designed to be a noisy, triangle-pushing machine, not for Photoshop quality images in non-realtime.
OpenCL fits the bill as the ultimate photo studio accelerator more so than any other API does at the moment.
OpenCL might have been designed to be a generalized compute API, but 9/10 of the apps that immediately use it in the first few months will be graphical applications (Photoshop &amp; imitators, maybe Adobe's Flash), with the 10th being someone's Big Budget sound studio app (Reason/Live/etc).
It will be months before anyone has general utility of the API.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255363</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244451720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>New to buying Apple products? Consult: <a href="http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/" title="macrumors.com" rel="nofollow">http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/</a> [macrumors.com]</p><p>Old Apple consumer getting ready to buy a new Apple product? Consult: <a href="http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/" title="macrumors.com" rel="nofollow">http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/</a> [macrumors.com]</p><p>Analyst/Gypsy Fortune Teller (their almost the same thing) guessing what products Apple is likely to release soon? Consult: <a href="http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/" title="macrumors.com" rel="nofollow">http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/</a> [macrumors.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>New to buying Apple products ?
Consult : http : //buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [ macrumors.com ] Old Apple consumer getting ready to buy a new Apple product ?
Consult : http : //buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [ macrumors.com ] Analyst/Gypsy Fortune Teller ( their almost the same thing ) guessing what products Apple is likely to release soon ?
Consult : http : //buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [ macrumors.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>New to buying Apple products?
Consult: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com]Old Apple consumer getting ready to buy a new Apple product?
Consult: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com]Analyst/Gypsy Fortune Teller (their almost the same thing) guessing what products Apple is likely to release soon?
Consult: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257901</id>
	<title>Re:The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244460540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring<br>&gt; it later to another device?</p><p>I don't want to defend AT&amp;T or their pricing, but there's no conceivable way that a user who has tethering activated on their iPhone is going to use the same amount of data per month as before they got tethering. They are going to use more, and probably vastly more.</p><p>Not only is the PC faster (you can render more Web pages per hour) but it can download any kind of file. With the iPhone, the kinds of files you can download are limited, and files over 10MB don't download over the cell network. You are definitely not downloading any torrents to your iPhone, for example.</p><p>Also, most PC apps that use the Internet assume you have an unmetered connection. You can boot up your MacBook and Software Update may start downloading a gigabyte of Mac OS updates which it will ask you to approve before installing. Ten minutes in iTunes on a PC and you can setup more gigabytes of downloads than a typical iPhone does all month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring &gt; it later to another device ? I do n't want to defend AT&amp;T or their pricing , but there 's no conceivable way that a user who has tethering activated on their iPhone is going to use the same amount of data per month as before they got tethering .
They are going to use more , and probably vastly more.Not only is the PC faster ( you can render more Web pages per hour ) but it can download any kind of file .
With the iPhone , the kinds of files you can download are limited , and files over 10MB do n't download over the cell network .
You are definitely not downloading any torrents to your iPhone , for example.Also , most PC apps that use the Internet assume you have an unmetered connection .
You can boot up your MacBook and Software Update may start downloading a gigabyte of Mac OS updates which it will ask you to approve before installing .
Ten minutes in iTunes on a PC and you can setup more gigabytes of downloads than a typical iPhone does all month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring&gt; it later to another device?I don't want to defend AT&amp;T or their pricing, but there's no conceivable way that a user who has tethering activated on their iPhone is going to use the same amount of data per month as before they got tethering.
They are going to use more, and probably vastly more.Not only is the PC faster (you can render more Web pages per hour) but it can download any kind of file.
With the iPhone, the kinds of files you can download are limited, and files over 10MB don't download over the cell network.
You are definitely not downloading any torrents to your iPhone, for example.Also, most PC apps that use the Internet assume you have an unmetered connection.
You can boot up your MacBook and Software Update may start downloading a gigabyte of Mac OS updates which it will ask you to approve before installing.
Ten minutes in iTunes on a PC and you can setup more gigabytes of downloads than a typical iPhone does all month.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254847</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257195</id>
	<title>SD card slot</title>
	<author>rreay</author>
	<datestamp>1244457900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it. I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.</p></div></blockquote><p>The only thing I've ever seen used in the MBP expresscard slot is an expresscard SD reader.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 ) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it .
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.The only thing I 've ever seen used in the MBP expresscard slot is an expresscard SD reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it.
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.The only thing I've ever seen used in the MBP expresscard slot is an expresscard SD reader.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255387</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255583</id>
	<title>Re:OS X updates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$29 isn't a bad price.</p><p>2007 : Vista and Mac OS X Leopard launch. Vista users talk about the high ongoing cost of Mac OS X upgrades because they occur every 18 months. Mac users say the trend is for longer gaps between OS launches, and that XP-&gt;Vista was uncharacteristically long.</p><p>30 months later: Windows 7 and Snow Leopard launch at roughly the same time. Snow Leopard costs $29 to upgrade ($129 new). Windows 7 Home Premium: $260 (rumoured). Linux: Still free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 29 is n't a bad price.2007 : Vista and Mac OS X Leopard launch .
Vista users talk about the high ongoing cost of Mac OS X upgrades because they occur every 18 months .
Mac users say the trend is for longer gaps between OS launches , and that XP- &gt; Vista was uncharacteristically long.30 months later : Windows 7 and Snow Leopard launch at roughly the same time .
Snow Leopard costs $ 29 to upgrade ( $ 129 new ) .
Windows 7 Home Premium : $ 260 ( rumoured ) .
Linux : Still free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$29 isn't a bad price.2007 : Vista and Mac OS X Leopard launch.
Vista users talk about the high ongoing cost of Mac OS X upgrades because they occur every 18 months.
Mac users say the trend is for longer gaps between OS launches, and that XP-&gt;Vista was uncharacteristically long.30 months later: Windows 7 and Snow Leopard launch at roughly the same time.
Snow Leopard costs $29 to upgrade ($129 new).
Windows 7 Home Premium: $260 (rumoured).
Linux: Still free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255817</id>
	<title>Re:$100 for 16GB?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244453100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>same thing in an SD card is roughly $20.</p></div><p>I share your view in a sense, but that's an unfair comparison.<br> <br>While I'm sure there's a substantial markup, don't forget they have to integrate this memory on the board which takes up valuable PCB real estate. The memory may also even be of better quality (Think solid state hard drives, where faster, more expensive SLC flash might be used).<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Okay, probably not, but just playing devil's advocate for a bit.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-) <br> <br>Regardless, I'm sure it doesn't *really* cost anywhere near $100... but sdcard comparisons are a little unfair.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>same thing in an SD card is roughly $ 20.I share your view in a sense , but that 's an unfair comparison .
While I 'm sure there 's a substantial markup , do n't forget they have to integrate this memory on the board which takes up valuable PCB real estate .
The memory may also even be of better quality ( Think solid state hard drives , where faster , more expensive SLC flash might be used ) .
... Okay , probably not , but just playing devil 's advocate for a bit .
: - ) Regardless , I 'm sure it does n't * really * cost anywhere near $ 100... but sdcard comparisons are a little unfair .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>same thing in an SD card is roughly $20.I share your view in a sense, but that's an unfair comparison.
While I'm sure there's a substantial markup, don't forget they have to integrate this memory on the board which takes up valuable PCB real estate.
The memory may also even be of better quality (Think solid state hard drives, where faster, more expensive SLC flash might be used).
... Okay, probably not, but just playing devil's advocate for a bit.
:-)  Regardless, I'm sure it doesn't *really* cost anywhere near $100... but sdcard comparisons are a little unfair.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255541</id>
	<title>Re:Is this the new style?</title>
	<author>jeffasselin</author>
	<datestamp>1244452260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple keynotes have been reported this way for YEARS now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple keynotes have been reported this way for YEARS now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple keynotes have been reported this way for YEARS now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259897</id>
	<title>Re:Depends on how you define "success"</title>
	<author>mgblst</author>
	<datestamp>1244472000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not every conference can be an iPhone conference. If you follow all the new stories before the conference, you are definitely going to be disappointed, since the rumours promise so much, but reality doesn't deliver.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not every conference can be an iPhone conference .
If you follow all the new stories before the conference , you are definitely going to be disappointed , since the rumours promise so much , but reality does n't deliver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not every conference can be an iPhone conference.
If you follow all the new stories before the conference, you are definitely going to be disappointed, since the rumours promise so much, but reality doesn't deliver.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258453</id>
	<title>It was five minutes of a multi hour keynote</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1244463060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before?</i></p><p>Have they taken digs before?  Yes, but just like this year it was a very small part of the presentation...  mostly they were talking about new things with little mention of other companies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before ? Have they taken digs before ?
Yes , but just like this year it was a very small part of the presentation... mostly they were talking about new things with little mention of other companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before?Have they taken digs before?
Yes, but just like this year it was a very small part of the presentation...  mostly they were talking about new things with little mention of other companies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258547</id>
	<title>Re:Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244463600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, and it's one of the reasons I refuse to buy Apple products:  I don't like giving money to smug douchebags.  I've only ever known two kinds of mac users:  clueless old people, and smug douchebags.  I mean seriously, all their commercials could start off, "Hi, I'm a PC."  "And I'm a smug douchebag."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and it 's one of the reasons I refuse to buy Apple products : I do n't like giving money to smug douchebags .
I 've only ever known two kinds of mac users : clueless old people , and smug douchebags .
I mean seriously , all their commercials could start off , " Hi , I 'm a PC .
" " And I 'm a smug douchebag .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, and it's one of the reasons I refuse to buy Apple products:  I don't like giving money to smug douchebags.
I've only ever known two kinds of mac users:  clueless old people, and smug douchebags.
I mean seriously, all their commercials could start off, "Hi, I'm a PC.
"  "And I'm a smug douchebag.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255887</id>
	<title>Not great but good.</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244453280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The $99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice. I like the voice controls, compass, and video but nothing is earth shattering.</i></p><p>I thought that upgrading the 13" MacBook to a MacBook Pro, and dropping the price, was great news.  MacBook Pros are now as low as $1200.  One article also said the price for the 17" MacBook Pro was dropped from $2800 to $2500 as well as being upgraded also.  However I looked in the <a href="http://store.apple.com/us?mco=MTE2MjI" title="apple.com">Apple store</a> [apple.com] and the 17" isn't even there, just the 13" and 15" are listed.  I even searched the store and didn't find it.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The $ 99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice .
I like the voice controls , compass , and video but nothing is earth shattering.I thought that upgrading the 13 " MacBook to a MacBook Pro , and dropping the price , was great news .
MacBook Pros are now as low as $ 1200 .
One article also said the price for the 17 " MacBook Pro was dropped from $ 2800 to $ 2500 as well as being upgraded also .
However I looked in the Apple store [ apple.com ] and the 17 " is n't even there , just the 13 " and 15 " are listed .
I even searched the store and did n't find it .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The $99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice.
I like the voice controls, compass, and video but nothing is earth shattering.I thought that upgrading the 13" MacBook to a MacBook Pro, and dropping the price, was great news.
MacBook Pros are now as low as $1200.
One article also said the price for the 17" MacBook Pro was dropped from $2800 to $2500 as well as being upgraded also.
However I looked in the Apple store [apple.com] and the 17" isn't even there, just the 13" and 15" are listed.
I even searched the store and didn't find it.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28261001</id>
	<title>Re:The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>schnablebg</author>
	<datestamp>1244477940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This business model is called "dumb pipe" and the cell phone carriers are trying desperately to avoid it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This business model is called " dumb pipe " and the cell phone carriers are trying desperately to avoid it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This business model is called "dumb pipe" and the cell phone carriers are trying desperately to avoid it.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28271735</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244542680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>pippin?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>pippin ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>pippin?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255453</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1244451960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why does Apple do anything? Style over substance. It all starts off good, then someone if the design team says 'hey how about we make it meaninglessly small?'. <br> <br>

It's all just Malibu Stacy's New Hat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does Apple do anything ?
Style over substance .
It all starts off good , then someone if the design team says 'hey how about we make it meaninglessly small ? ' .
It 's all just Malibu Stacy 's New Hat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does Apple do anything?
Style over substance.
It all starts off good, then someone if the design team says 'hey how about we make it meaninglessly small?'.
It's all just Malibu Stacy's New Hat.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256015</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>afidel</author>
	<datestamp>1244453700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>AT&amp;T DOES allow tethering, just not with the iPhone plan. We added tethering to our corporate BB plans recently as we are upgrading to Bold's (3G) and it's cheaper than having a bunch of laptop only contracts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T DOES allow tethering , just not with the iPhone plan .
We added tethering to our corporate BB plans recently as we are upgrading to Bold 's ( 3G ) and it 's cheaper than having a bunch of laptop only contracts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T DOES allow tethering, just not with the iPhone plan.
We added tethering to our corporate BB plans recently as we are upgrading to Bold's (3G) and it's cheaper than having a bunch of laptop only contracts.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256157</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>mario\_grgic</author>
	<datestamp>1244454120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I think of 64 bit kernel update as a bit more than a service pack. They are not charging much for the update because most average users like yourself would not know that 64 bit is and why would they want it.</p><p>Basically, you can not market 64 kernel update to average user. On the other hand they did not have time to develop and test new UI theme as sell that as greatest and biggest update ever. So, Snow Leopard is really move to 64 bit on the Mac and they want everyone to move to it as fast as they can, hence the price.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I think of 64 bit kernel update as a bit more than a service pack .
They are not charging much for the update because most average users like yourself would not know that 64 bit is and why would they want it.Basically , you can not market 64 kernel update to average user .
On the other hand they did not have time to develop and test new UI theme as sell that as greatest and biggest update ever .
So , Snow Leopard is really move to 64 bit on the Mac and they want everyone to move to it as fast as they can , hence the price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I think of 64 bit kernel update as a bit more than a service pack.
They are not charging much for the update because most average users like yourself would not know that 64 bit is and why would they want it.Basically, you can not market 64 kernel update to average user.
On the other hand they did not have time to develop and test new UI theme as sell that as greatest and biggest update ever.
So, Snow Leopard is really move to 64 bit on the Mac and they want everyone to move to it as fast as they can, hence the price.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257943</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>gmccloskey</author>
	<datestamp>1244460720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> 2) Snow Leopard is not a service pack.</p></div><p>Even their own marketing calls it "fine tuning". Apple senior execs called it a refinement of Leopard, or words to that effect. It's a service pack.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it. I...never saw the use for it</p></div><p>It's a pro slot, used by pros, to connect pro kit - usually high end audio, video and storage. Remind me of the branding of this product again... oh yeah, pro!</p><p><div class="quote"><p>  How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?</p></div><p>In my case, after just over a year - and that following recommended charge/discharge practices. Apple kindly sent me a replacement, as the first was an explosion risk. It died a little over a year later. My experience is not unusual for a Powerbook battery. The lack of easy access to replace the cell cheaply with a non-oem part is a strong disincentive.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>  Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive *and* improving the hardware</p></div><p>Apple is reducing the price of entry. It's arguable they are NOT improving the hardware (beyond normal Moore's Law) for the same price at the mid and high end prices. Cf express card loss, FW400 loss, discrete gfx loss. And even in their Pro line, they charging $30 for a lead to let you connect to any external display - not even a free HDMI slot. Last but not least, still offering only 2 USB slots, on the 15" models is a joke - especially as there's no express slot now. Use an external mouse, and now you can't plug in your external drive, as there's no spare slot for power. Use a mouse and a external card reader, and you're SOL to do anything else.

I wanted to buy a MBP  from this upgrade cycle. I won't - instead staying with a Powerbook G4 that's alot slower, but offers so much more in terms of usability. My hope is that APPL will correct some of these decisions in the next cycle. It's unlikely we'll go back to discrete batteries any time soon, but hopefully get  what many users want - connectivity options.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 ) Snow Leopard is not a service pack.Even their own marketing calls it " fine tuning " .
Apple senior execs called it a refinement of Leopard , or words to that effect .
It 's a service pack .
... took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it .
I...never saw the use for itIt 's a pro slot , used by pros , to connect pro kit - usually high end audio , video and storage .
Remind me of the branding of this product again... oh yeah , pro !
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery ? In my case , after just over a year - and that following recommended charge/discharge practices .
Apple kindly sent me a replacement , as the first was an explosion risk .
It died a little over a year later .
My experience is not unusual for a Powerbook battery .
The lack of easy access to replace the cell cheaply with a non-oem part is a strong disincentive .
Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive * and * improving the hardwareApple is reducing the price of entry .
It 's arguable they are NOT improving the hardware ( beyond normal Moore 's Law ) for the same price at the mid and high end prices .
Cf express card loss , FW400 loss , discrete gfx loss .
And even in their Pro line , they charging $ 30 for a lead to let you connect to any external display - not even a free HDMI slot .
Last but not least , still offering only 2 USB slots , on the 15 " models is a joke - especially as there 's no express slot now .
Use an external mouse , and now you ca n't plug in your external drive , as there 's no spare slot for power .
Use a mouse and a external card reader , and you 're SOL to do anything else .
I wanted to buy a MBP from this upgrade cycle .
I wo n't - instead staying with a Powerbook G4 that 's alot slower , but offers so much more in terms of usability .
My hope is that APPL will correct some of these decisions in the next cycle .
It 's unlikely we 'll go back to discrete batteries any time soon , but hopefully get what many users want - connectivity options .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> 2) Snow Leopard is not a service pack.Even their own marketing calls it "fine tuning".
Apple senior execs called it a refinement of Leopard, or words to that effect.
It's a service pack.
... took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it.
I...never saw the use for itIt's a pro slot, used by pros, to connect pro kit - usually high end audio, video and storage.
Remind me of the branding of this product again... oh yeah, pro!
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?In my case, after just over a year - and that following recommended charge/discharge practices.
Apple kindly sent me a replacement, as the first was an explosion risk.
It died a little over a year later.
My experience is not unusual for a Powerbook battery.
The lack of easy access to replace the cell cheaply with a non-oem part is a strong disincentive.
Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive *and* improving the hardwareApple is reducing the price of entry.
It's arguable they are NOT improving the hardware (beyond normal Moore's Law) for the same price at the mid and high end prices.
Cf express card loss, FW400 loss, discrete gfx loss.
And even in their Pro line, they charging $30 for a lead to let you connect to any external display - not even a free HDMI slot.
Last but not least, still offering only 2 USB slots, on the 15" models is a joke - especially as there's no express slot now.
Use an external mouse, and now you can't plug in your external drive, as there's no spare slot for power.
Use a mouse and a external card reader, and you're SOL to do anything else.
I wanted to buy a MBP  from this upgrade cycle.
I won't - instead staying with a Powerbook G4 that's alot slower, but offers so much more in terms of usability.
My hope is that APPL will correct some of these decisions in the next cycle.
It's unlikely we'll go back to discrete batteries any time soon, but hopefully get  what many users want - connectivity options.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254917</id>
	<title>Re:The GS stands for...</title>
	<author>Bloopie</author>
	<datestamp>1244493660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, it's better than, uh, <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5250347/did-microsoft-just-announce-a-zune-phone-on-twitter" title="gizmodo.com" rel="nofollow">squirting</a> [gizmodo.com] their junk.  <b>Bleah!!!!!!</b>  Suddenly I don't feel so well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , it 's better than , uh , squirting [ gizmodo.com ] their junk .
Bleah ! ! ! ! ! ! Suddenly I do n't feel so well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, it's better than, uh, squirting [gizmodo.com] their junk.
Bleah!!!!!!  Suddenly I don't feel so well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259251</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>DJRumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1244468160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There were 4 items that really caught my eye:<br> <br>

Full 64 bit support (I didn't realize there was any 32 bit thunking going on). At least that's history<br>
I heard a rumor that BootCamp will now come with native HPFS read/write support? (can someone confirm?)<br>
OpenCL<br>
Multi-Core optimization<br>

The updated finder code sounds interesting, but I don't know if it gets me excited in my pants. Still worth $49 bucks for 5 licenses in my book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There were 4 items that really caught my eye : Full 64 bit support ( I did n't realize there was any 32 bit thunking going on ) .
At least that 's history I heard a rumor that BootCamp will now come with native HPFS read/write support ?
( can someone confirm ?
) OpenCL Multi-Core optimization The updated finder code sounds interesting , but I do n't know if it gets me excited in my pants .
Still worth $ 49 bucks for 5 licenses in my book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There were 4 items that really caught my eye: 

Full 64 bit support (I didn't realize there was any 32 bit thunking going on).
At least that's history
I heard a rumor that BootCamp will now come with native HPFS read/write support?
(can someone confirm?
)
OpenCL
Multi-Core optimization

The updated finder code sounds interesting, but I don't know if it gets me excited in my pants.
Still worth $49 bucks for 5 licenses in my book.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259121</id>
	<title>Re:Depends on how you define "success"</title>
	<author>noob749</author>
	<datestamp>1244467380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know why you sound so unimpressed.  A lot of people would consider "more of the same" a good thing coming from Apple.  Sure they have their flaws, but by and large they are very good at providing stuff their target market want.  You shouldn't expect a world-changing announcement every year - that would detract from their announcements that actually DO change the world.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know why you sound so unimpressed .
A lot of people would consider " more of the same " a good thing coming from Apple .
Sure they have their flaws , but by and large they are very good at providing stuff their target market want .
You should n't expect a world-changing announcement every year - that would detract from their announcements that actually DO change the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know why you sound so unimpressed.
A lot of people would consider "more of the same" a good thing coming from Apple.
Sure they have their flaws, but by and large they are very good at providing stuff their target market want.
You shouldn't expect a world-changing announcement every year - that would detract from their announcements that actually DO change the world.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256247</id>
	<title>Re:So no iPod Touch refresh?</title>
	<author>ohcrapitssteve</author>
	<datestamp>1244454420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm smack in the middle of the Philly metro area, and apparently, AT&amp;T isn't offering coverage enough to suit the features of this phone to me either. Or NYC metro. Or anywhere in America, for that matter, at least for a while. MMS and tethering have been around for years and years, but one won't be ready at launch, and the other was totally glanced over and for now appears delayed without mention of availability time-frame.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm smack in the middle of the Philly metro area , and apparently , AT&amp;T is n't offering coverage enough to suit the features of this phone to me either .
Or NYC metro .
Or anywhere in America , for that matter , at least for a while .
MMS and tethering have been around for years and years , but one wo n't be ready at launch , and the other was totally glanced over and for now appears delayed without mention of availability time-frame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm smack in the middle of the Philly metro area, and apparently, AT&amp;T isn't offering coverage enough to suit the features of this phone to me either.
Or NYC metro.
Or anywhere in America, for that matter, at least for a while.
MMS and tethering have been around for years and years, but one won't be ready at launch, and the other was totally glanced over and for now appears delayed without mention of availability time-frame.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28263097</id>
	<title>Re:Is this the new style?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1244543400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Keynote coverage is normally like that, so those of us who compulsively refresh the page every 30 seconds (even though there's a script doing that every minute anyway) don't have to scroll to see the latest updates.  It's harder to read afterwards though, so I'd have thought that sites would reverse the order after the keynote finished.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Keynote coverage is normally like that , so those of us who compulsively refresh the page every 30 seconds ( even though there 's a script doing that every minute anyway ) do n't have to scroll to see the latest updates .
It 's harder to read afterwards though , so I 'd have thought that sites would reverse the order after the keynote finished .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keynote coverage is normally like that, so those of us who compulsively refresh the page every 30 seconds (even though there's a script doing that every minute anyway) don't have to scroll to see the latest updates.
It's harder to read afterwards though, so I'd have thought that sites would reverse the order after the keynote finished.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255411</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>kannibal\_klown</author>
	<datestamp>1244451840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>it really peeves me that apple dropped the price to $99 AND introduced a new phone that has twice the capacity for the same price as the phone that I bought.  it would be different if they said, "in 1 year, there will be this blah blah blah phone for $199" because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price.<br>
&nbsp;</p> </div><p>On one hand, it makes sense for them from 2 standpoints.  If in February they announced "Umm guys, FYI we're probably releasing a new iPhone on June 19th" they run into 2 main problems.</p><p>1 - Only 1 model means massive sales dip<br>Potential customers would wait until June, unless they NEEDED a replacement due to a broken Sony/Nokia/etc.  Sales would drop, they couldn't get rid of their old models, etc.<br>It's not like they're Nokia and have several models with different feature sets, where users would still focus on those instead of the new iPhone.  They just have the 1 unit.  At least Nokia's flip phones will be selling like hot-cakes while the rest the SmartPhone users await the new shiney.</p><p>2 - No public deadline means no public failure.<br>Face it, if they announce it back in February and then run into a major issue like fabrication, bug, etc then they get egg on their face and their stock price goes down.  Keep it secret, and maybe that June announcement can pushed back to their next big show in the Fall/Winter/etc.</p></div>
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<tokenext>it really peeves me that apple dropped the price to $ 99 AND introduced a new phone that has twice the capacity for the same price as the phone that I bought .
it would be different if they said , " in 1 year , there will be this blah blah blah phone for $ 199 " because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $ 199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price .
  On one hand , it makes sense for them from 2 standpoints .
If in February they announced " Umm guys , FYI we 're probably releasing a new iPhone on June 19th " they run into 2 main problems.1 - Only 1 model means massive sales dipPotential customers would wait until June , unless they NEEDED a replacement due to a broken Sony/Nokia/etc .
Sales would drop , they could n't get rid of their old models , etc.It 's not like they 're Nokia and have several models with different feature sets , where users would still focus on those instead of the new iPhone .
They just have the 1 unit .
At least Nokia 's flip phones will be selling like hot-cakes while the rest the SmartPhone users await the new shiney.2 - No public deadline means no public failure.Face it , if they announce it back in February and then run into a major issue like fabrication , bug , etc then they get egg on their face and their stock price goes down .
Keep it secret , and maybe that June announcement can pushed back to their next big show in the Fall/Winter/etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it really peeves me that apple dropped the price to $99 AND introduced a new phone that has twice the capacity for the same price as the phone that I bought.
it would be different if they said, "in 1 year, there will be this blah blah blah phone for $199" because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price.
  On one hand, it makes sense for them from 2 standpoints.
If in February they announced "Umm guys, FYI we're probably releasing a new iPhone on June 19th" they run into 2 main problems.1 - Only 1 model means massive sales dipPotential customers would wait until June, unless they NEEDED a replacement due to a broken Sony/Nokia/etc.
Sales would drop, they couldn't get rid of their old models, etc.It's not like they're Nokia and have several models with different feature sets, where users would still focus on those instead of the new iPhone.
They just have the 1 unit.
At least Nokia's flip phones will be selling like hot-cakes while the rest the SmartPhone users await the new shiney.2 - No public deadline means no public failure.Face it, if they announce it back in February and then run into a major issue like fabrication, bug, etc then they get egg on their face and their stock price goes down.
Keep it secret, and maybe that June announcement can pushed back to their next big show in the Fall/Winter/etc.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28261617</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1244483100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CF is being phased out. Most of the new DSLRs coming out are using SDHC. As usual, Apple is dropping support for old formats, which inevitably ticks some people off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CF is being phased out .
Most of the new DSLRs coming out are using SDHC .
As usual , Apple is dropping support for old formats , which inevitably ticks some people off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CF is being phased out.
Most of the new DSLRs coming out are using SDHC.
As usual, Apple is dropping support for old formats, which inevitably ticks some people off.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256767</id>
	<title>hot markets</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244456220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>When did Apple ever release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?</i></p><p>iPods and iPhones.  However Apple does things differently than others, it takes a basic idea others came out with then adds enough extras to it for people to pay a higher price for it.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When did Apple ever release " me too !
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets ? iPods and iPhones .
However Apple does things differently than others , it takes a basic idea others came out with then adds enough extras to it for people to pay a higher price for it .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When did Apple ever release "me too!
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?iPods and iPhones.
However Apple does things differently than others, it takes a basic idea others came out with then adds enough extras to it for people to pay a higher price for it.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256419</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>recoiledsnake</author>
	<datestamp>1244455020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's $30. You're not forced to upgrade. You're not being asked for $400 for Business Ultimate Platinum edition.</p></div><p>It's more comparable to XP SP2 than Vista Ultimate. And SP2 was free and probably had more new features than Snow Leopard.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Just because Apple isn't competing in the $200 netbook category doesn't mean they are screwing up. It means they care about the customer experience.</p></div><p>You mean a company that gives a good customer experience on a 3" inch can't on a 8" or 10" inch screen? You know that the real reason is margins and bottomline. Not to mention cannibalizing the sales of higher margin Macbooks by people who want the Mac experience.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's $ 30 .
You 're not forced to upgrade .
You 're not being asked for $ 400 for Business Ultimate Platinum edition.It 's more comparable to XP SP2 than Vista Ultimate .
And SP2 was free and probably had more new features than Snow Leopard.Just because Apple is n't competing in the $ 200 netbook category does n't mean they are screwing up .
It means they care about the customer experience.You mean a company that gives a good customer experience on a 3 " inch ca n't on a 8 " or 10 " inch screen ?
You know that the real reason is margins and bottomline .
Not to mention cannibalizing the sales of higher margin Macbooks by people who want the Mac experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's $30.
You're not forced to upgrade.
You're not being asked for $400 for Business Ultimate Platinum edition.It's more comparable to XP SP2 than Vista Ultimate.
And SP2 was free and probably had more new features than Snow Leopard.Just because Apple isn't competing in the $200 netbook category doesn't mean they are screwing up.
It means they care about the customer experience.You mean a company that gives a good customer experience on a 3" inch can't on a 8" or 10" inch screen?
You know that the real reason is margins and bottomline.
Not to mention cannibalizing the sales of higher margin Macbooks by people who want the Mac experience.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258037</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>loufoque</author>
	<datestamp>1244461080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name. The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well. You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.</p></div></blockquote><p>Stupid or very smart.<br>What if you wanted to do rendering using a radically different method than the typical OpenGL stack? There are some nice vexel renderers in CUDA out there, some of which with global illumination.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenCL is like CUDA , but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL , hence the name .
The same guys who manage OpenGL ( Khronos ) manage OpenCL as well .
You could probably use it to do graphics , but that would be stupid.Stupid or very smart.What if you wanted to do rendering using a radically different method than the typical OpenGL stack ?
There are some nice vexel renderers in CUDA out there , some of which with global illumination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name.
The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well.
You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.Stupid or very smart.What if you wanted to do rendering using a radically different method than the typical OpenGL stack?
There are some nice vexel renderers in CUDA out there, some of which with global illumination.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259571</id>
	<title>Re:popup alerts on the iphone</title>
	<author>Plug</author>
	<datestamp>1244469960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know you're trying to come across as a joke, but the keynote said the push notifications were limited to text, a number to go on the icon on the home screen (similar to the number of unread messages icon on the Mail app), and sounds for notifications.  So you can have a hee-haw, but no pictures of ass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know you 're trying to come across as a joke , but the keynote said the push notifications were limited to text , a number to go on the icon on the home screen ( similar to the number of unread messages icon on the Mail app ) , and sounds for notifications .
So you can have a hee-haw , but no pictures of ass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know you're trying to come across as a joke, but the keynote said the push notifications were limited to text, a number to go on the icon on the home screen (similar to the number of unread messages icon on the Mail app), and sounds for notifications.
So you can have a hee-haw, but no pictures of ass.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254717</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256173</id>
	<title>Think "development and setup costs"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244454180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone, and I'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model.  Therefore, they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size. It's not really about the cost of the memory, it's about the additional R&amp;D and the cost of having a second assembly line.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone , and I 'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model .
Therefore , they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size .
It 's not really about the cost of the memory , it 's about the additional R&amp;D and the cost of having a second assembly line .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone, and I'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model.
Therefore, they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size.
It's not really about the cost of the memory, it's about the additional R&amp;D and the cost of having a second assembly line.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255083</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254665</id>
	<title>Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>Bicx</author>
	<datestamp>1244492820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before? It was a little tacky IMO</htmltext>
<tokenext>Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before ?
It was a little tacky IMO</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has Apple been this abrasive to their competitors during the keynotes before?
It was a little tacky IMO</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257533</id>
	<title>Re:hot markets</title>
	<author>99BottlesOfBeerInMyF</author>
	<datestamp>1244459160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>When did Apple ever release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?</p></div><p>iPods and iPhones.</p></div><p>The portable music player and smartphone markets weren't hot markets when Apple jumped into them. They were tiny niche markets and the average person found such devices way, way too hard to use. They were reserved mostly for nerds. The markets did exist, but what Apple did was went in and refined the overall usability of the devices to provide a solid base level of functionality that was easy enough for average people... drastically expanding the market. That's when they really heated up and everyone else tried to copy them and compete for share of the newly expanded market. Apple's not the only company that does this, but they are one of the most successful.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...it takes a basic idea others came out with then adds enough extras to it for people to pay a higher price for it.</p></div><p>Usually Apple's initial offerings have fewer features than competitors, not more. They are good at making those features usable to normal people and ditching the features they can't make usable by the ship date. The iPod had less space than a Nomad and no wi-fi. It didn't have an FM tuner and was missing several other features competitors had on their bullet list. The difference was the average person could actually rip CDs with iTunes, transfer them to the iPod, and play them all without calling the neighbor's kid over to help. That's where Apple innovates and that's what many people are willing to pay more for.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When did Apple ever release " me too !
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets ? iPods and iPhones.The portable music player and smartphone markets were n't hot markets when Apple jumped into them .
They were tiny niche markets and the average person found such devices way , way too hard to use .
They were reserved mostly for nerds .
The markets did exist , but what Apple did was went in and refined the overall usability of the devices to provide a solid base level of functionality that was easy enough for average people... drastically expanding the market .
That 's when they really heated up and everyone else tried to copy them and compete for share of the newly expanded market .
Apple 's not the only company that does this , but they are one of the most successful .
...it takes a basic idea others came out with then adds enough extras to it for people to pay a higher price for it.Usually Apple 's initial offerings have fewer features than competitors , not more .
They are good at making those features usable to normal people and ditching the features they ca n't make usable by the ship date .
The iPod had less space than a Nomad and no wi-fi .
It did n't have an FM tuner and was missing several other features competitors had on their bullet list .
The difference was the average person could actually rip CDs with iTunes , transfer them to the iPod , and play them all without calling the neighbor 's kid over to help .
That 's where Apple innovates and that 's what many people are willing to pay more for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When did Apple ever release "me too!
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?iPods and iPhones.The portable music player and smartphone markets weren't hot markets when Apple jumped into them.
They were tiny niche markets and the average person found such devices way, way too hard to use.
They were reserved mostly for nerds.
The markets did exist, but what Apple did was went in and refined the overall usability of the devices to provide a solid base level of functionality that was easy enough for average people... drastically expanding the market.
That's when they really heated up and everyone else tried to copy them and compete for share of the newly expanded market.
Apple's not the only company that does this, but they are one of the most successful.
...it takes a basic idea others came out with then adds enough extras to it for people to pay a higher price for it.Usually Apple's initial offerings have fewer features than competitors, not more.
They are good at making those features usable to normal people and ditching the features they can't make usable by the ship date.
The iPod had less space than a Nomad and no wi-fi.
It didn't have an FM tuner and was missing several other features competitors had on their bullet list.
The difference was the average person could actually rip CDs with iTunes, transfer them to the iPod, and play them all without calling the neighbor's kid over to help.
That's where Apple innovates and that's what many people are willing to pay more for.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256767</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257241</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1244458020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I see you posted the identical troll on Digg. Gonna hit Reddit, too?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I see you posted the identical troll on Digg .
Gon na hit Reddit , too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see you posted the identical troll on Digg.
Gonna hit Reddit, too?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258161</id>
	<title>Re:OS X updates</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1244461620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, troll for making a valid point that this upgrade price is going to look seriously good in comparison to the price of Windows 7? The vast majority of Mac users are running Leopard (25m active Mac users in 2007, 75m in 2009, therefore at least 2/3rds use Leopard) so will experience this cheap upgrade price and 4/5ths will probably bite.</p><p>I also got the new price wrong - it's $169 but includes iWork and iLife 2009, i.e., it brings Tiger users bang up to date across the board. A good decision by Apple, and it's not a bad price.</p><p>I still fail to see where the troll is, seriously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , troll for making a valid point that this upgrade price is going to look seriously good in comparison to the price of Windows 7 ?
The vast majority of Mac users are running Leopard ( 25m active Mac users in 2007 , 75m in 2009 , therefore at least 2/3rds use Leopard ) so will experience this cheap upgrade price and 4/5ths will probably bite.I also got the new price wrong - it 's $ 169 but includes iWork and iLife 2009 , i.e. , it brings Tiger users bang up to date across the board .
A good decision by Apple , and it 's not a bad price.I still fail to see where the troll is , seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, troll for making a valid point that this upgrade price is going to look seriously good in comparison to the price of Windows 7?
The vast majority of Mac users are running Leopard (25m active Mac users in 2007, 75m in 2009, therefore at least 2/3rds use Leopard) so will experience this cheap upgrade price and 4/5ths will probably bite.I also got the new price wrong - it's $169 but includes iWork and iLife 2009, i.e., it brings Tiger users bang up to date across the board.
A good decision by Apple, and it's not a bad price.I still fail to see where the troll is, seriously.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255583</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256131</id>
	<title>Re:Apple pushes the boundaries again</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1244454060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, except the copy-and-paste is coming in a firmware upgrade available to all iPhone users.  There are lots of reasons to bash the iPhone, go pick one that doesn't only live in your head next time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , except the copy-and-paste is coming in a firmware upgrade available to all iPhone users .
There are lots of reasons to bash the iPhone , go pick one that does n't only live in your head next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, except the copy-and-paste is coming in a firmware upgrade available to all iPhone users.
There are lots of reasons to bash the iPhone, go pick one that doesn't only live in your head next time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255155</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257383</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>catchblue22</author>
	<datestamp>1244458680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Actually, I'm glad that Apple has followed through on its promise to include architectural improvements instead of outwards facing bloat features.  One of the main problems that software writers face is the pressure to include new features without concentrating on invisible but important architectural structures.  This is obviously caused by the pressure to sell software at all costs by adding bells and whistles.  The end result will be ugly architecture and bloat.</p><p> [wishful thinking] I hope that their improvements <em>add</em> to the stability of the system, and that we won't go through the standard cycle of critical bugs and updates...we'll see[/wishful thinking]</p><p>.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for .
Actually , I 'm glad that Apple has followed through on its promise to include architectural improvements instead of outwards facing bloat features .
One of the main problems that software writers face is the pressure to include new features without concentrating on invisible but important architectural structures .
This is obviously caused by the pressure to sell software at all costs by adding bells and whistles .
The end result will be ugly architecture and bloat .
[ wishful thinking ] I hope that their improvements add to the stability of the system , and that we wo n't go through the standard cycle of critical bugs and updates...we 'll see [ /wishful thinking ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for.
Actually, I'm glad that Apple has followed through on its promise to include architectural improvements instead of outwards facing bloat features.
One of the main problems that software writers face is the pressure to include new features without concentrating on invisible but important architectural structures.
This is obviously caused by the pressure to sell software at all costs by adding bells and whistles.
The end result will be ugly architecture and bloat.
[wishful thinking] I hope that their improvements add to the stability of the system, and that we won't go through the standard cycle of critical bugs and updates...we'll see[/wishful thinking].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254963</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254963</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>mcwop</author>
	<datestamp>1244493780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bashing Windows is fun! Seriously, I love Apple, but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for. The new iPhones look cool, and do have some new key features, that make it much more complete.
<br>

----
The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space. I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net. In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that, and at $500 is much easier on the wallet. No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS, unlike bloated Windows (reason why netbooks run XP), which I just do not get. Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space. I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system, that I prefer not to carry. The iPhone can do some basic stuff on the road, but the screen is just not big enough for "surfing" the web, and handling documents etc...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bashing Windows is fun !
Seriously , I love Apple , but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for .
The new iPhones look cool , and do have some new key features , that make it much more complete .
---- The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the " netbook " space .
I will not spend over $ 1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net .
In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that , and at $ 500 is much easier on the wallet .
No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS , unlike bloated Windows ( reason why netbooks run XP ) , which I just do not get .
Just do not fully understand Apple 's poo-pooing the netbook space .
I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system , that I prefer not to carry .
The iPhone can do some basic stuff on the road , but the screen is just not big enough for " surfing " the web , and handling documents etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bashing Windows is fun!
Seriously, I love Apple, but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for.
The new iPhones look cool, and do have some new key features, that make it much more complete.
----
The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space.
I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net.
In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that, and at $500 is much easier on the wallet.
No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS, unlike bloated Windows (reason why netbooks run XP), which I just do not get.
Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space.
I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system, that I prefer not to carry.
The iPhone can do some basic stuff on the road, but the screen is just not big enough for "surfing" the web, and handling documents etc...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256863</id>
	<title>Re:Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1244456580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.</p><p><a href="http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/20/redmond-start-your-photocopiers/" title="theappleblog.com">http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/20/redmond-start-your-photocopiers/</a> [theappleblog.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes.http : //theappleblog.com/2005/09/20/redmond-start-your-photocopiers/ [ theappleblog.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.http://theappleblog.com/2005/09/20/redmond-start-your-photocopiers/ [theappleblog.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254665</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28261577</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Falconhell</author>
	<datestamp>1244482740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have had a glossy screen in my laptop for the last year, used every day for work.</p><p>It has never been a problem, in fact I find it much better than a matte screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have had a glossy screen in my laptop for the last year , used every day for work.It has never been a problem , in fact I find it much better than a matte screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have had a glossy screen in my laptop for the last year, used every day for work.It has never been a problem, in fact I find it much better than a matte screen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255765</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Teckla</author>
	<datestamp>1244452980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...introduce a service pack for Leopard priced at 29USD...</p></div><p>It looked like a lot more than a service pack to me.</p><p>Apple charges an <i>extremely</i> fair price for OSX, in my opinion. Look at Vista Ultimate, which costs $250 retail for the full version, and $200 retail for the upgrade version.</p><p>Apple only charging $30 for the Snow Leopard upgrade seems like an <i>incredible</i> bargain to me.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...introduce a service pack for Leopard priced at 29USD...It looked like a lot more than a service pack to me.Apple charges an extremely fair price for OSX , in my opinion .
Look at Vista Ultimate , which costs $ 250 retail for the full version , and $ 200 retail for the upgrade version.Apple only charging $ 30 for the Snow Leopard upgrade seems like an incredible bargain to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...introduce a service pack for Leopard priced at 29USD...It looked like a lot more than a service pack to me.Apple charges an extremely fair price for OSX, in my opinion.
Look at Vista Ultimate, which costs $250 retail for the full version, and $200 retail for the upgrade version.Apple only charging $30 for the Snow Leopard upgrade seems like an incredible bargain to me.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255399</id>
	<title>&#194;&pound;900 for a 13 inch laptop</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1244451840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no way I'm paying &#194;&pound;900 for a 13 inch laptop. I'll likely get a Mac Book Pro in the near future and I'm ok with the larger ones being priced high but the 13 inch ones just don't feel priced right for what you're getting.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no way I 'm paying     900 for a 13 inch laptop .
I 'll likely get a Mac Book Pro in the near future and I 'm ok with the larger ones being priced high but the 13 inch ones just do n't feel priced right for what you 're getting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no way I'm paying Â£900 for a 13 inch laptop.
I'll likely get a Mac Book Pro in the near future and I'm ok with the larger ones being priced high but the 13 inch ones just don't feel priced right for what you're getting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254593</id>
	<title>yippee</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>boom</htmltext>
<tokenext>boom</tokentext>
<sentencetext>boom</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255175</id>
	<title>Finally I understood</title>
	<author>anonymousNR</author>
	<datestamp>1244494500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The reason behind having a smudgy touch keyboard, to support different language keyboards of course, that's a good move.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason behind having a smudgy touch keyboard , to support different language keyboards of course , that 's a good move .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason behind having a smudgy touch keyboard, to support different language keyboards of course, that's a good move.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257145</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244457660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last time my family went to sign up for a new two-year contract with AT&amp;T (and to add a new line to our plan, and get new phones at the same time), they forced us to change our cell phone numbers or we would not get any of those sweet "with two-year contract" deals.  I hate that damn company.</p><p>We are planning to go in again pretty soon (that was three years ago) for phone upgrades, new contract, etc.  This time, if they try to make me change my phone number, I'm going to tell them, "Sorry, I'll just go across the street to Verizon instead" (Verizon wasn't there three years ago...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last time my family went to sign up for a new two-year contract with AT&amp;T ( and to add a new line to our plan , and get new phones at the same time ) , they forced us to change our cell phone numbers or we would not get any of those sweet " with two-year contract " deals .
I hate that damn company.We are planning to go in again pretty soon ( that was three years ago ) for phone upgrades , new contract , etc .
This time , if they try to make me change my phone number , I 'm going to tell them , " Sorry , I 'll just go across the street to Verizon instead " ( Verizon was n't there three years ago... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last time my family went to sign up for a new two-year contract with AT&amp;T (and to add a new line to our plan, and get new phones at the same time), they forced us to change our cell phone numbers or we would not get any of those sweet "with two-year contract" deals.
I hate that damn company.We are planning to go in again pretty soon (that was three years ago) for phone upgrades, new contract, etc.
This time, if they try to make me change my phone number, I'm going to tell them, "Sorry, I'll just go across the street to Verizon instead" (Verizon wasn't there three years ago...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254773</id>
	<title>iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Requires new two-year AT&amp;T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older. For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB). (from <a href="http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/</a> [apple.com])

Kudos for the new corporate aftertaste and giant spanking to current customers!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Requires new two-year AT&amp;T wireless service contract , sold separately to qualified customers ; credit check required ; must be 18 or older .
For non-qualified customers , including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G , the price with a new two-year agreement is $ 499 ( 8GB ) , $ 599 ( 16GB ) , or $ 699 ( 32GB ) .
( from http : //www.apple.com/iphone/buy/ [ apple.com ] ) Kudos for the new corporate aftertaste and giant spanking to current customers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Requires new two-year AT&amp;T wireless service contract, sold separately to qualified customers; credit check required; must be 18 or older.
For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB).
(from http://www.apple.com/iphone/buy/ [apple.com])

Kudos for the new corporate aftertaste and giant spanking to current customers!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258283</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1244462280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>6) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it. That was their point. I can't say whether or not Vista sucks, since I haven't used it that much.</p></div><p>Although I suppose that's true, the Win7 beta has been uniformly excellent in my experience.  I think that the world will eventually forgive Microsoft for Vista, just like they did for Windows ME!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>6 ) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it .
That was their point .
I ca n't say whether or not Vista sucks , since I have n't used it that much.Although I suppose that 's true , the Win7 beta has been uniformly excellent in my experience .
I think that the world will eventually forgive Microsoft for Vista , just like they did for Windows ME !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>6) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it.
That was their point.
I can't say whether or not Vista sucks, since I haven't used it that much.Although I suppose that's true, the Win7 beta has been uniformly excellent in my experience.
I think that the world will eventually forgive Microsoft for Vista, just like they did for Windows ME!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255387</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257301</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>harlows\_monkeys</author>
	<datestamp>1244458320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G</p></div></blockquote><p>That is poorly worded. It makes it sound like existing customers who want to upgrade from another phone are automatically non-qualified, which is not true. I have an iPhone that is in month 18 of its contract. I qualify for the $99/$199/$299 price.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>For non-qualified customers , including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3GThat is poorly worded .
It makes it sound like existing customers who want to upgrade from another phone are automatically non-qualified , which is not true .
I have an iPhone that is in month 18 of its contract .
I qualify for the $ 99/ $ 199/ $ 299 price .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3GThat is poorly worded.
It makes it sound like existing customers who want to upgrade from another phone are automatically non-qualified, which is not true.
I have an iPhone that is in month 18 of its contract.
I qualify for the $99/$199/$299 price.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257327</id>
	<title>Re:$100 for 16GB?!</title>
	<author>snuf23</author>
	<datestamp>1244458440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think SD card comparisons are unfair when you consider just about every phone on the planet besides the iPhone offers SD card expansion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think SD card comparisons are unfair when you consider just about every phone on the planet besides the iPhone offers SD card expansion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think SD card comparisons are unfair when you consider just about every phone on the planet besides the iPhone offers SD card expansion.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255817</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28267301</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>TheoMurpse</author>
	<datestamp>1244568240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it. I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.</p></div></blockquote><p>I'm going to have to agree with you here. I have a MBP. One day, in a fit of "I want to spend geek moneys," I searched for things I could buy that belong in the express slot. <b>I couldn't find a single thing that belongs there that I'd like</b>. TV Capture Cards (recording and encoding TV as a self-made PVR is more of a hassle than just getting it elsewhere (plus why would I try to do this on a laptop?)) and wifi (built in on the MBP as on most laptops currently). Neither is really a good use.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>3 ) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it .
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.I 'm going to have to agree with you here .
I have a MBP .
One day , in a fit of " I want to spend geek moneys , " I searched for things I could buy that belong in the express slot .
I could n't find a single thing that belongs there that I 'd like .
TV Capture Cards ( recording and encoding TV as a self-made PVR is more of a hassle than just getting it elsewhere ( plus why would I try to do this on a laptop ?
) ) and wifi ( built in on the MBP as on most laptops currently ) .
Neither is really a good use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it.
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.I'm going to have to agree with you here.
I have a MBP.
One day, in a fit of "I want to spend geek moneys," I searched for things I could buy that belong in the express slot.
I couldn't find a single thing that belongs there that I'd like.
TV Capture Cards (recording and encoding TV as a self-made PVR is more of a hassle than just getting it elsewhere (plus why would I try to do this on a laptop?
)) and wifi (built in on the MBP as on most laptops currently).
Neither is really a good use.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255913</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>swb</author>
	<datestamp>1244453400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm wondering how my situation will work.</p><p>I switched from Verizon to AT&amp;T 3 weeks ago (my Motorola Q was dying, Verizon's phones suck) and got a 16GB iPhone.</p><p>My wife wanted a non-work-tied phone to develop some freelance business, and I also got her a cell number but no contract for her (sim card stuck in some used RAZR for the time being), with the idea that since "her" line had no contract associated with it, I could get a new 3GS iPhone and tie the contract to her number, and she could take my 16GB iPhone and I could take the 3GS iPhone.</p><p>Since she has no contract associated with her number and could easily port it over to another carrier, I suspect we will be able to get the pricing, as well as perhaps my relatively new AT&amp;T status and that I want to add an additional iPhone to the account.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm wondering how my situation will work.I switched from Verizon to AT&amp;T 3 weeks ago ( my Motorola Q was dying , Verizon 's phones suck ) and got a 16GB iPhone.My wife wanted a non-work-tied phone to develop some freelance business , and I also got her a cell number but no contract for her ( sim card stuck in some used RAZR for the time being ) , with the idea that since " her " line had no contract associated with it , I could get a new 3GS iPhone and tie the contract to her number , and she could take my 16GB iPhone and I could take the 3GS iPhone.Since she has no contract associated with her number and could easily port it over to another carrier , I suspect we will be able to get the pricing , as well as perhaps my relatively new AT&amp;T status and that I want to add an additional iPhone to the account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm wondering how my situation will work.I switched from Verizon to AT&amp;T 3 weeks ago (my Motorola Q was dying, Verizon's phones suck) and got a 16GB iPhone.My wife wanted a non-work-tied phone to develop some freelance business, and I also got her a cell number but no contract for her (sim card stuck in some used RAZR for the time being), with the idea that since "her" line had no contract associated with it, I could get a new 3GS iPhone and tie the contract to her number, and she could take my 16GB iPhone and I could take the 3GS iPhone.Since she has no contract associated with her number and could easily port it over to another carrier, I suspect we will be able to get the pricing, as well as perhaps my relatively new AT&amp;T status and that I want to add an additional iPhone to the account.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255781</id>
	<title>To bulky, also old school</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1244453040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.  CF is already on the way out for pro gear.</p><p>A CF card adaptor on the laptop would be far larger as well...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Newer DLSR 's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already .
CF is already on the way out for pro gear.A CF card adaptor on the laptop would be far larger as well.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.
CF is already on the way out for pro gear.A CF card adaptor on the laptop would be far larger as well...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255047</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254731</id>
	<title>Shake it</title>
	<author>jargoone</author>
	<datestamp>1244493060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all?  Half the time I don't shake it hard enough, so I have to do it again.  And for something like undo, it takes your eyes off what you're trying to do... or undo.  I realize there are limited inputs on a device with few hard buttons, but hope there's an alternate way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all ?
Half the time I do n't shake it hard enough , so I have to do it again .
And for something like undo , it takes your eyes off what you 're trying to do... or undo .
I realize there are limited inputs on a device with few hard buttons , but hope there 's an alternate way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all?
Half the time I don't shake it hard enough, so I have to do it again.
And for something like undo, it takes your eyes off what you're trying to do... or undo.
I realize there are limited inputs on a device with few hard buttons, but hope there's an alternate way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28264235</id>
	<title>Re:yeh, too bad...</title>
	<author>dintech</author>
	<datestamp>1244555700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1?</p></div></blockquote><p>At up to <a href="http://www.geekwithlaptop.com/you-might-be-paying-1000-per-mb-for-sms" title="geekwithlaptop.com">$1000 per megabyte</a> [geekwithlaptop.com], you'd think they would sort it out pretty quickly...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1 ? At up to $ 1000 per megabyte [ geekwithlaptop.com ] , you 'd think they would sort it out pretty quickly.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1?At up to $1000 per megabyte [geekwithlaptop.com], you'd think they would sort it out pretty quickly...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255393</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258241</id>
	<title>Infrastructure</title>
	<author>Gary W. Longsine</author>
	<datestamp>1244462100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every other phone on the AT&amp;T network does *not* support 30 fps + audio vga resolution video messages.  It's very likely that AT&amp;T believes that their infrastructure would collapse under the load.  They are probably right in that assessment.  You, however, are correct that AT&amp;T still doesn't "get it" on the whole.  They have a lot of ground to cover before they can be a phone company that I don't want to flee, first chance I get to take iPhone elsewhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every other phone on the AT&amp;T network does * not * support 30 fps + audio vga resolution video messages .
It 's very likely that AT&amp;T believes that their infrastructure would collapse under the load .
They are probably right in that assessment .
You , however , are correct that AT&amp;T still does n't " get it " on the whole .
They have a lot of ground to cover before they can be a phone company that I do n't want to flee , first chance I get to take iPhone elsewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every other phone on the AT&amp;T network does *not* support 30 fps + audio vga resolution video messages.
It's very likely that AT&amp;T believes that their infrastructure would collapse under the load.
They are probably right in that assessment.
You, however, are correct that AT&amp;T still doesn't "get it" on the whole.
They have a lot of ground to cover before they can be a phone company that I don't want to flee, first chance I get to take iPhone elsewhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255393</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28265281</id>
	<title>Re:PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook.</title>
	<author>illumin8</author>
	<datestamp>1244560740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned. I'm not alone in this--I don't know how many million PPC Macs are still running, but Apple was selling them new three years ago.</p></div></blockquote><p>Actually, that's not correct.  Apple stopped selling all G4 Macs in January 2006, when the transition to Intel was complete across all product lines.  They have done everything they promised they would do, including provide compatibility with all new OS releases for 3 years.  By the time Snow Leopard is released next January, you will have had 4 years of compatibility with all new OS releases, which is even more than they promised.</p><p>What's more, you can continue to run Leopard on your Mac for years to come, and will still receive all security and compatibility updates.  Apple is not making your old machine obsolete, even though the processor speed and performance of your old machine quite assuredly is (I had a PowerBook G4 from 2003 and it was getting quite long in the tooth).</p><p>In short, you'll get 3-4 years of solid use out of your portable computer anyway.  5-6 years if Leopard works fine for you.  Why are you complaining?  How many PC laptops from 2006 are still usable and are even capable of running Vista or Windows 7?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned .
I 'm not alone in this--I do n't know how many million PPC Macs are still running , but Apple was selling them new three years ago.Actually , that 's not correct .
Apple stopped selling all G4 Macs in January 2006 , when the transition to Intel was complete across all product lines .
They have done everything they promised they would do , including provide compatibility with all new OS releases for 3 years .
By the time Snow Leopard is released next January , you will have had 4 years of compatibility with all new OS releases , which is even more than they promised.What 's more , you can continue to run Leopard on your Mac for years to come , and will still receive all security and compatibility updates .
Apple is not making your old machine obsolete , even though the processor speed and performance of your old machine quite assuredly is ( I had a PowerBook G4 from 2003 and it was getting quite long in the tooth ) .In short , you 'll get 3-4 years of solid use out of your portable computer anyway .
5-6 years if Leopard works fine for you .
Why are you complaining ?
How many PC laptops from 2006 are still usable and are even capable of running Vista or Windows 7 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned.
I'm not alone in this--I don't know how many million PPC Macs are still running, but Apple was selling them new three years ago.Actually, that's not correct.
Apple stopped selling all G4 Macs in January 2006, when the transition to Intel was complete across all product lines.
They have done everything they promised they would do, including provide compatibility with all new OS releases for 3 years.
By the time Snow Leopard is released next January, you will have had 4 years of compatibility with all new OS releases, which is even more than they promised.What's more, you can continue to run Leopard on your Mac for years to come, and will still receive all security and compatibility updates.
Apple is not making your old machine obsolete, even though the processor speed and performance of your old machine quite assuredly is (I had a PowerBook G4 from 2003 and it was getting quite long in the tooth).In short, you'll get 3-4 years of solid use out of your portable computer anyway.
5-6 years if Leopard works fine for you.
Why are you complaining?
How many PC laptops from 2006 are still usable and are even capable of running Vista or Windows 7?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255679</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262689</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>drew</author>
	<datestamp>1244538600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The glossy screen hasn't bothered me too much on the MacBook that I've been using for work recently, but the big thing keeping me from buying my own (aside from the current state of my bank account) is the lack of a decent resolution on anything smaller than the 17" model.</p><p>Well, that and the mouse, but Mighty Mouse aside, I can't imagine Apple ever sucking up their pride enough to actually change that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The glossy screen has n't bothered me too much on the MacBook that I 've been using for work recently , but the big thing keeping me from buying my own ( aside from the current state of my bank account ) is the lack of a decent resolution on anything smaller than the 17 " model.Well , that and the mouse , but Mighty Mouse aside , I ca n't imagine Apple ever sucking up their pride enough to actually change that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The glossy screen hasn't bothered me too much on the MacBook that I've been using for work recently, but the big thing keeping me from buying my own (aside from the current state of my bank account) is the lack of a decent resolution on anything smaller than the 17" model.Well, that and the mouse, but Mighty Mouse aside, I can't imagine Apple ever sucking up their pride enough to actually change that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254727</id>
	<title>Good update.</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1244493060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not great but good. The $99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice. I like the voice controls, compass, and video but nothing is earth shattering.  I do think Palm will provide some much needed competition for the iPhone.   The difference in a two year contract runs a few hundred dollars and the Pre offers a keyboard which some people really want.  If you can not tether on AT&amp;T then it is just a big slap in the face for US customers. I hope Palm/Sprint will enable that feature on the Pre when they see how bent people are at AT&amp;T over it. Now we need Android on some networks besides T-Mobile and we can start seeing a real three way fight.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not great but good .
The $ 99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice .
I like the voice controls , compass , and video but nothing is earth shattering .
I do think Palm will provide some much needed competition for the iPhone .
The difference in a two year contract runs a few hundred dollars and the Pre offers a keyboard which some people really want .
If you can not tether on AT&amp;T then it is just a big slap in the face for US customers .
I hope Palm/Sprint will enable that feature on the Pre when they see how bent people are at AT&amp;T over it .
Now we need Android on some networks besides T-Mobile and we can start seeing a real three way fight .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not great but good.
The $99 phone is the big news the rest of it is just nice.
I like the voice controls, compass, and video but nothing is earth shattering.
I do think Palm will provide some much needed competition for the iPhone.
The difference in a two year contract runs a few hundred dollars and the Pre offers a keyboard which some people really want.
If you can not tether on AT&amp;T then it is just a big slap in the face for US customers.
I hope Palm/Sprint will enable that feature on the Pre when they see how bent people are at AT&amp;T over it.
Now we need Android on some networks besides T-Mobile and we can start seeing a real three way fight.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255059</id>
	<title>Re:$79 Touch</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1244494200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's $99 after the subsidies from the 2 year AT&amp;T plan. You have to buy an iPod touch outright.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's $ 99 after the subsidies from the 2 year AT&amp;T plan .
You have to buy an iPod touch outright .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's $99 after the subsidies from the 2 year AT&amp;T plan.
You have to buy an iPod touch outright.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254945</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255947</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Tony Hoyle</author>
	<datestamp>1244453460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They removed it from *all* app stores - even in countries where tethering is perfectly OK.  Basically on the word of AT&amp;T.. Luckily I think this is changing - apple announcing things with the caveat 'but not on AT&amp;T' means they're learning that bending over and taking it isn't a good long term strategy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They removed it from * all * app stores - even in countries where tethering is perfectly OK. Basically on the word of AT&amp;T.. Luckily I think this is changing - apple announcing things with the caveat 'but not on AT&amp;T ' means they 're learning that bending over and taking it is n't a good long term strategy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They removed it from *all* app stores - even in countries where tethering is perfectly OK.  Basically on the word of AT&amp;T.. Luckily I think this is changing - apple announcing things with the caveat 'but not on AT&amp;T' means they're learning that bending over and taking it isn't a good long term strategy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255135</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255699</id>
	<title>Depends on how you define "success"</title>
	<author>Alzheimers</author>
	<datestamp>1244452740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>looks like another successful WWDC.</i></p><p>Well, that really depends on how you define success.  If you think that they succeeded because they made it through mostly unscathed and that it ended and everyone went home, then you're probably right.  Their share price even managed to recover to nearly the same value by closing.</p><p>However, most people expect more from Apple than a few minor tweaks and "refreshes", especially regarding the iPhone.  Their presentation basically restated, bullet by bullet, everything that had been leaked to date.  Nothing new or inspiring, and some things that weren't so inspiring (thanks, AT&amp;T, for nothing).  There wasn't even a "One More Thing".</p><p>No visions for the future.  Nothing innovative, inspiring, or even interesting.  In all, it was an ordinary, if not downright boring, conference that promised nothing but More of the Same.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>looks like another successful WWDC.Well , that really depends on how you define success .
If you think that they succeeded because they made it through mostly unscathed and that it ended and everyone went home , then you 're probably right .
Their share price even managed to recover to nearly the same value by closing.However , most people expect more from Apple than a few minor tweaks and " refreshes " , especially regarding the iPhone .
Their presentation basically restated , bullet by bullet , everything that had been leaked to date .
Nothing new or inspiring , and some things that were n't so inspiring ( thanks , AT&amp;T , for nothing ) .
There was n't even a " One More Thing " .No visions for the future .
Nothing innovative , inspiring , or even interesting .
In all , it was an ordinary , if not downright boring , conference that promised nothing but More of the Same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>looks like another successful WWDC.Well, that really depends on how you define success.
If you think that they succeeded because they made it through mostly unscathed and that it ended and everyone went home, then you're probably right.
Their share price even managed to recover to nearly the same value by closing.However, most people expect more from Apple than a few minor tweaks and "refreshes", especially regarding the iPhone.
Their presentation basically restated, bullet by bullet, everything that had been leaked to date.
Nothing new or inspiring, and some things that weren't so inspiring (thanks, AT&amp;T, for nothing).
There wasn't even a "One More Thing".No visions for the future.
Nothing innovative, inspiring, or even interesting.
In all, it was an ordinary, if not downright boring, conference that promised nothing but More of the Same.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257719</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244459880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>In North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT.</p></div></blockquote><p>Nope. Rogers and Fido are the iPhone carriers in Canada. In Mexico it's Telcel. Dunno about St Pierre &amp; Miquelon.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT.Nope .
Rogers and Fido are the iPhone carriers in Canada .
In Mexico it 's Telcel .
Dunno about St Pierre &amp; Miquelon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT.Nope.
Rogers and Fido are the iPhone carriers in Canada.
In Mexico it's Telcel.
Dunno about St Pierre &amp; Miquelon.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258651</id>
	<title>Re:OS X updates</title>
	<author>Bill\_the\_Engineer</author>
	<datestamp>1244464080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29. It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.</p></div></blockquote><p>To further clarify your clarification. Safari 4 for OS X was released today for OS X 10.5. It popped up on my Software update app.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be clear , the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 ( Snow Leopard ) which will ship in September and cost $ 29 .
It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.To further clarify your clarification .
Safari 4 for OS X was released today for OS X 10.5 .
It popped up on my Software update app .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29.
It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.To further clarify your clarification.
Safari 4 for OS X was released today for OS X 10.5.
It popped up on my Software update app.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254705</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256703</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1244456040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Xubuntu, Done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xubuntu , Done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xubuntu, Done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255827</id>
	<title>Re:Apple pushes the boundaries again</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1244453100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lol, it's like a broken record. Not only do those still within contract now get these features (one day you might write software and understand that creating a whole new platform takes time), but now that it is done, the past doesn't matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lol , it 's like a broken record .
Not only do those still within contract now get these features ( one day you might write software and understand that creating a whole new platform takes time ) , but now that it is done , the past does n't matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lol, it's like a broken record.
Not only do those still within contract now get these features (one day you might write software and understand that creating a whole new platform takes time), but now that it is done, the past doesn't matter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256977</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>aberkvam</author>
	<datestamp>1244457060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display? These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.</p><p>One more guy who's looking for a used MBP on ebay.</p></div><p>Why buy used?  There are <a href="http://www.macworld.com/article/138610/2009/02/mbpantiglare.html" title="macworld.com">other options</a> [macworld.com] for anti-glare screens.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't Apple produce 15 " or 13 " laptops without that damn glossy display ?
These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying , and I 'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.One more guy who 's looking for a used MBP on ebay.Why buy used ?
There are other options [ macworld.com ] for anti-glare screens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display?
These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.One more guy who's looking for a used MBP on ebay.Why buy used?
There are other options [macworld.com] for anti-glare screens.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255135</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>cbuskirk</author>
	<datestamp>1244494380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was removed from the North American App store. In  North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT. ATT does not allow tethering. You will not be able to use the Apple tethering app in North America.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was removed from the North American App store .
In North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT .
ATT does not allow tethering .
You will not be able to use the Apple tethering app in North America .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was removed from the North American App store.
In  North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT.
ATT does not allow tethering.
You will not be able to use the Apple tethering app in North America.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258637</id>
	<title>Re:At $99 the 3G is now relatively mainstream</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244464080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't see how Google can do the opposite of Apple and yet arrive at the same place. Google is just doing what Microsoft did, even down to buying a 3rd party company and rebranding everything. They're shipping one software stack that is going to be shoehorned into dozens of phones (someday, they've been promising this for years so we know they really mean it) and it's going to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... suck? I think so.</p><p>The key thing that Apple did was create a platform that was so good that even without 3rd party apps, they were able to sell 20 million in the first year (half iPhone, half iPod touch.) So instead of wooing developers with promises and nerdy hardware, they wooed them with an electronic storefront with 20 million 1-click users and a mature platform and sophisticated developers tools. They treated developers like adults instead of children and they treated their users like users instead of developers, and everybody was happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't see how Google can do the opposite of Apple and yet arrive at the same place .
Google is just doing what Microsoft did , even down to buying a 3rd party company and rebranding everything .
They 're shipping one software stack that is going to be shoehorned into dozens of phones ( someday , they 've been promising this for years so we know they really mean it ) and it 's going to ... suck ? I think so.The key thing that Apple did was create a platform that was so good that even without 3rd party apps , they were able to sell 20 million in the first year ( half iPhone , half iPod touch .
) So instead of wooing developers with promises and nerdy hardware , they wooed them with an electronic storefront with 20 million 1-click users and a mature platform and sophisticated developers tools .
They treated developers like adults instead of children and they treated their users like users instead of developers , and everybody was happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't see how Google can do the opposite of Apple and yet arrive at the same place.
Google is just doing what Microsoft did, even down to buying a 3rd party company and rebranding everything.
They're shipping one software stack that is going to be shoehorned into dozens of phones (someday, they've been promising this for years so we know they really mean it) and it's going to ... suck? I think so.The key thing that Apple did was create a platform that was so good that even without 3rd party apps, they were able to sell 20 million in the first year (half iPhone, half iPod touch.
) So instead of wooing developers with promises and nerdy hardware, they wooed them with an electronic storefront with 20 million 1-click users and a mature platform and sophisticated developers tools.
They treated developers like adults instead of children and they treated their users like users instead of developers, and everybody was happy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254915</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257433</id>
	<title>Re:yeh, too bad...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Only every other phone on their network supports it.</p><p>So maybe, just maybe, its the phone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Only every other phone on their network supports it.So maybe , just maybe , its the phone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Only every other phone on their network supports it.So maybe, just maybe, its the phone?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255393</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256791</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Ma8thew</author>
	<datestamp>1244456340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>AT&amp;T subsidised the phone you 'bought' a year ago. It's not unreasonable that they won't subsidise a new phone for you now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T subsidised the phone you 'bought ' a year ago .
It 's not unreasonable that they wo n't subsidise a new phone for you now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T subsidised the phone you 'bought' a year ago.
It's not unreasonable that they won't subsidise a new phone for you now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254773</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254967</id>
	<title>Let Those Mod Points Fly Apple Crazies!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod the unbeliever straight down to hell!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod the unbeliever straight down to hell !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod the unbeliever straight down to hell!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256443</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because they don't anymore.  Low-end dSLRs like the Rebels are going to SDHC and the mid to high range ones are going to a mixed environment with (I'm guessing) the goal of switching all the way over to SDHC.  Plus, if you're really using your dSLR with your computer, you're either uploading the pics later via a USB cable or you're tethered to start with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they do n't anymore .
Low-end dSLRs like the Rebels are going to SDHC and the mid to high range ones are going to a mixed environment with ( I 'm guessing ) the goal of switching all the way over to SDHC .
Plus , if you 're really using your dSLR with your computer , you 're either uploading the pics later via a USB cable or you 're tethered to start with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they don't anymore.
Low-end dSLRs like the Rebels are going to SDHC and the mid to high range ones are going to a mixed environment with (I'm guessing) the goal of switching all the way over to SDHC.
Plus, if you're really using your dSLR with your computer, you're either uploading the pics later via a USB cable or you're tethered to start with.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255047</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262241</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244490060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or, barring that, you could get a matte screen filter...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , barring that , you could get a matte screen filter.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, barring that, you could get a matte screen filter...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255083</id>
	<title>$100 for 16GB?!</title>
	<author>Lord Byron II</author>
	<datestamp>1244494260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ouch, that's a costly upgrade, when the same thing in an SD card is roughly $20.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ouch , that 's a costly upgrade , when the same thing in an SD card is roughly $ 20 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ouch, that's a costly upgrade, when the same thing in an SD card is roughly $20.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254605</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256615</id>
	<title>Remote Wiping</title>
	<author>prestomation</author>
	<datestamp>1244455680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IIRC, you have always been able to wipe the iphone remotely using the enterprise iphone configuration tool.  Basically  group policy for iphones.<br>Although I haven't used it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC , you have always been able to wipe the iphone remotely using the enterprise iphone configuration tool .
Basically group policy for iphones.Although I have n't used it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC, you have always been able to wipe the iphone remotely using the enterprise iphone configuration tool.
Basically  group policy for iphones.Although I haven't used it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28261893</id>
	<title>Re:Think "development and setup costs"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244486100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WRONG!</p><p>You are incredibly unfamiliar with Apple's R&amp;D processes (or R&amp;D processes in general), or their supply chain methodology. The cost of R&amp;D or manufacturing the additional capacity iPhone is negligible -- ditto for the white or black backing models.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WRONG ! You are incredibly unfamiliar with Apple 's R&amp;D processes ( or R&amp;D processes in general ) , or their supply chain methodology .
The cost of R&amp;D or manufacturing the additional capacity iPhone is negligible -- ditto for the white or black backing models .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WRONG!You are incredibly unfamiliar with Apple's R&amp;D processes (or R&amp;D processes in general), or their supply chain methodology.
The cost of R&amp;D or manufacturing the additional capacity iPhone is negligible -- ditto for the white or black backing models.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256173</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255019</id>
	<title>Re:The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>horatio</author>
	<datestamp>1244494020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I can't see how that fact that another computer can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different...</p></div><p>It is different <i>in AT&amp;T's world</i> because they do place restrictions (artificial to be sure) on what the iPhone can do on the 3G network.  I've run into limitations on the 3G network where where I get a warning that I can't download something (file, song, app) because it is &gt; 10MB, and no streaming (so the $30 slingplayer app requires WiFi...Fsck! If I had wifi I would run the app on my macbook)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't see how that fact that another computer can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different...It is different in AT&amp;T 's world because they do place restrictions ( artificial to be sure ) on what the iPhone can do on the 3G network .
I 've run into limitations on the 3G network where where I get a warning that I ca n't download something ( file , song , app ) because it is &gt; 10MB , and no streaming ( so the $ 30 slingplayer app requires WiFi...Fsck !
If I had wifi I would run the app on my macbook )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't see how that fact that another computer can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different...It is different in AT&amp;T's world because they do place restrictions (artificial to be sure) on what the iPhone can do on the 3G network.
I've run into limitations on the 3G network where where I get a warning that I can't download something (file, song, app) because it is &gt; 10MB, and no streaming (so the $30 slingplayer app requires WiFi...Fsck!
If I had wifi I would run the app on my macbook)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254847</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254605</id>
	<title>The GS stands for...</title>
	<author>craenor</author>
	<datestamp>1244492580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Get Some" which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Get Some " which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Get Some" which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255429</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Powerbear</author>
	<datestamp>1244451900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you didn't pay $199 for the iphone... you paid $199 + 24*$69 = $1855 ( you now, the monthly fees )</p><p>The new price is $99 + 24*$69 = $1755 or a 6.5\% price drop. ( Assuming AT&amp;T's pricing doesn't change )</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you did n't pay $ 199 for the iphone... you paid $ 199 + 24 * $ 69 = $ 1855 ( you now , the monthly fees ) The new price is $ 99 + 24 * $ 69 = $ 1755 or a 6.5 \ % price drop .
( Assuming AT&amp;T 's pricing does n't change )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you didn't pay $199 for the iphone... you paid $199 + 24*$69 = $1855 ( you now, the monthly fees )The new price is $99 + 24*$69 = $1755 or a 6.5\% price drop.
( Assuming AT&amp;T's pricing doesn't change )</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257047</id>
	<title>Re:yeh, too bad...</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1244457300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Simple.  Its not actually MMS, its some other protocol that talks to special servers that AT&amp;T hasn't rolled out.  Just like visual voice mail.</p><p>Of course, even if it is something else, they should have had it rolled out in time unless Apple just turned over the software too them, if carriers outside the US are supporting it than we can just assume AT&amp;T is trying to figure out how to bill more for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Simple .
Its not actually MMS , its some other protocol that talks to special servers that AT&amp;T has n't rolled out .
Just like visual voice mail.Of course , even if it is something else , they should have had it rolled out in time unless Apple just turned over the software too them , if carriers outside the US are supporting it than we can just assume AT&amp;T is trying to figure out how to bill more for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simple.
Its not actually MMS, its some other protocol that talks to special servers that AT&amp;T hasn't rolled out.
Just like visual voice mail.Of course, even if it is something else, they should have had it rolled out in time unless Apple just turned over the software too them, if carriers outside the US are supporting it than we can just assume AT&amp;T is trying to figure out how to bill more for it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28266035</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244563800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dammit.  Not even as an extra-pay OPTION??  Again??</p><p>Has anyone come up with an after-market solution that doesn't suck?  Is eBay for older models my only option?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dammit .
Not even as an extra-pay OPTION ? ?
Again ? ? Has anyone come up with an after-market solution that does n't suck ?
Is eBay for older models my only option ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dammit.
Not even as an extra-pay OPTION??
Again??Has anyone come up with an after-market solution that doesn't suck?
Is eBay for older models my only option?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260383</id>
	<title>WebOS will give Apple competition</title>
	<author>thule</author>
	<datestamp>1244474640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Palm will also release a lower end, lower cost WebOS phone soon that should compete with the $99 price point of the low end iPhone.</p><p>So far, I'm really liking WebOS.  Especially the "card" multitasking interface and the cloud sync.  I just wish that Palm would get the SDK out to everyone!  Programming WebOS appears to be really, really easy.  It is the most powerful feature of the phone, but only programmers get to see it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Palm will also release a lower end , lower cost WebOS phone soon that should compete with the $ 99 price point of the low end iPhone.So far , I 'm really liking WebOS .
Especially the " card " multitasking interface and the cloud sync .
I just wish that Palm would get the SDK out to everyone !
Programming WebOS appears to be really , really easy .
It is the most powerful feature of the phone , but only programmers get to see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Palm will also release a lower end, lower cost WebOS phone soon that should compete with the $99 price point of the low end iPhone.So far, I'm really liking WebOS.
Especially the "card" multitasking interface and the cloud sync.
I just wish that Palm would get the SDK out to everyone!
Programming WebOS appears to be really, really easy.
It is the most powerful feature of the phone, but only programmers get to see it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257697</id>
	<title>Re:Shake it</title>
	<author>MMC Monster</author>
	<datestamp>1244459820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, they did say that you could remotely brick the device, but many consider that a bit of an extreme way to undo an operation...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , they did say that you could remotely brick the device , but many consider that a bit of an extreme way to undo an operation.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, they did say that you could remotely brick the device, but many consider that a bit of an extreme way to undo an operation...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28265643</id>
	<title>Re:Shake it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244562360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all? </p></div><p>Yes.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all ?
Yes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who hates the shake interface for any action at all?
Yes.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257369</id>
	<title>Re:ummm....</title>
	<author>j!mmy v.</author>
	<datestamp>1244458620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, citation needed.  <br> <br>

Here's one to start you off:<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html#performance" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html#performance</a> [apple.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , citation needed .
Here 's one to start you off : http : //www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html # performance [ apple.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, citation needed.
Here's one to start you off: 
http://www.apple.com/safari/whats-new.html#performance [apple.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28263187</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>martyros</author>
	<datestamp>1244544540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>When did Apple ever release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?</p></div></blockquote><p>In fact, Apple has done an amazing job revolutionizing markets that had been hot with promise, then just fizzled; or at least stagnated.  See "iPod", "iPhone".  If Apple enters the netbook market, it will be after very careful consideration, and probably after people have decided netbooks aren't really all they're cracked up to be.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When did Apple ever release " me too !
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets ? In fact , Apple has done an amazing job revolutionizing markets that had been hot with promise , then just fizzled ; or at least stagnated .
See " iPod " , " iPhone " .
If Apple enters the netbook market , it will be after very careful consideration , and probably after people have decided netbooks are n't really all they 're cracked up to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When did Apple ever release "me too!
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?In fact, Apple has done an amazing job revolutionizing markets that had been hot with promise, then just fizzled; or at least stagnated.
See "iPod", "iPhone".
If Apple enters the netbook market, it will be after very careful consideration, and probably after people have decided netbooks aren't really all they're cracked up to be.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255101</id>
	<title>Re:The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244494260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is probably so you end up with 5GB as part of your monthly data when tethered with a higher rate when you exceed that instead of "unlimited" that all the non-tethered plans claim.</p><p>Even with the non-tethered plans with AT&amp;T that list as unlimited for data transfer (instead of 5GB included then about $0.49/MB after if you have a tethered plan) in the fine print they say that they can charge you if you exceed 5GB in a month.</p><p>(Don't believe that? Go <a href="http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/legal/plan-terms.jsp" title="att.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [att.com] and search for "if you use more than 5 GB in a month" It exists for Dataconnect, and PDA/Blackberry plans with tethering. No mention of iPhone right now, but give it time)</p><p>A comment I wrote a few days back <a href="http://ask.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1259413&amp;cid=28235561" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">here</a> [slashdot.org] goes a tad more into numbers about those data rates and what it would take to hit them as well as costs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is probably so you end up with 5GB as part of your monthly data when tethered with a higher rate when you exceed that instead of " unlimited " that all the non-tethered plans claim.Even with the non-tethered plans with AT&amp;T that list as unlimited for data transfer ( instead of 5GB included then about $ 0.49/MB after if you have a tethered plan ) in the fine print they say that they can charge you if you exceed 5GB in a month .
( Do n't believe that ?
Go here [ att.com ] and search for " if you use more than 5 GB in a month " It exists for Dataconnect , and PDA/Blackberry plans with tethering .
No mention of iPhone right now , but give it time ) A comment I wrote a few days back here [ slashdot.org ] goes a tad more into numbers about those data rates and what it would take to hit them as well as costs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is probably so you end up with 5GB as part of your monthly data when tethered with a higher rate when you exceed that instead of "unlimited" that all the non-tethered plans claim.Even with the non-tethered plans with AT&amp;T that list as unlimited for data transfer (instead of 5GB included then about $0.49/MB after if you have a tethered plan) in the fine print they say that they can charge you if you exceed 5GB in a month.
(Don't believe that?
Go here [att.com] and search for "if you use more than 5 GB in a month" It exists for Dataconnect, and PDA/Blackberry plans with tethering.
No mention of iPhone right now, but give it time)A comment I wrote a few days back here [slashdot.org] goes a tad more into numbers about those data rates and what it would take to hit them as well as costs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255863</id>
	<title>Shouldn't that then be Gay  Sex...?</title>
	<author>denzacar</author>
	<datestamp>1244453220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean... "Apple execs"... "squeezing their [Palm execs] junk"?</p><p>Unless the squeezers and junk holders are of different sex. Doesn't sound like they are to me, though...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean... " Apple execs " ... " squeezing their [ Palm execs ] junk " ? Unless the squeezers and junk holders are of different sex .
Does n't sound like they are to me , though.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean... "Apple execs"... "squeezing their [Palm execs] junk"?Unless the squeezers and junk holders are of different sex.
Doesn't sound like they are to me, though...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256831</id>
	<title>Re:Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>jeff4747</author>
	<datestamp>1244456460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.</p><p>Btw, Microsoft is similarly abrasive to it's competitors during their conferences.  As is pretty much every company on the planet that holds it's own conference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes.Btw , Microsoft is similarly abrasive to it 's competitors during their conferences .
As is pretty much every company on the planet that holds it 's own conference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.Btw, Microsoft is similarly abrasive to it's competitors during their conferences.
As is pretty much every company on the planet that holds it's own conference.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257293</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are superior, yes. The main problem is that you can barely see the screen if there is too much ambient light, like when you are outside.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are superior , yes .
The main problem is that you can barely see the screen if there is too much ambient light , like when you are outside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are superior, yes.
The main problem is that you can barely see the screen if there is too much ambient light, like when you are outside.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257311</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dumbass that is how the whole cell industry works. It's a 2 year subsidized contract, same as everybody.</p><p>If you have had an iPhone for 2 years (like me) then you have completed your 2 year contract and can sign another contract from-scratch for another 2 years of iPhone and get the phone subsidy. If you have an iPhone 3G you are only 1 year through your contract and can't get another subsidy right now. You have to wait a year. DUH.</p><p>However, if you buy an iPhone 3GS for full price and sell your unlocked 3G it is basically a wash because there is a high demand for unlocked phones, even used, because iTunes will install iPhone OS 3.0 on there and you get an up-to-date phone. I guess you could call that a spanking from Apple but you'd be fucking retarded you jackass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dumbass that is how the whole cell industry works .
It 's a 2 year subsidized contract , same as everybody.If you have had an iPhone for 2 years ( like me ) then you have completed your 2 year contract and can sign another contract from-scratch for another 2 years of iPhone and get the phone subsidy .
If you have an iPhone 3G you are only 1 year through your contract and ca n't get another subsidy right now .
You have to wait a year .
DUH.However , if you buy an iPhone 3GS for full price and sell your unlocked 3G it is basically a wash because there is a high demand for unlocked phones , even used , because iTunes will install iPhone OS 3.0 on there and you get an up-to-date phone .
I guess you could call that a spanking from Apple but you 'd be fucking retarded you jackass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dumbass that is how the whole cell industry works.
It's a 2 year subsidized contract, same as everybody.If you have had an iPhone for 2 years (like me) then you have completed your 2 year contract and can sign another contract from-scratch for another 2 years of iPhone and get the phone subsidy.
If you have an iPhone 3G you are only 1 year through your contract and can't get another subsidy right now.
You have to wait a year.
DUH.However, if you buy an iPhone 3GS for full price and sell your unlocked 3G it is basically a wash because there is a high demand for unlocked phones, even used, because iTunes will install iPhone OS 3.0 on there and you get an up-to-date phone.
I guess you could call that a spanking from Apple but you'd be fucking retarded you jackass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257243</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244458020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display? These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.</i></p><p>While it would be better if Apple offered glossy as well as anti-glare displays some prefer the glossy displays.  When I ordered mine I wanted the glossy display, and I had to specifically check it off, the anti-glare was the default when I ordered my MacBook Pro.  I heard many say they'd prefer it be anti-glare but I haven't have a problem with the glossy screen.  On the other hand if and when I get a larger external LCD monitor I'll probably get a hood for it as well.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't Apple produce 15 " or 13 " laptops without that damn glossy display ?
These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying , and I 'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.While it would be better if Apple offered glossy as well as anti-glare displays some prefer the glossy displays .
When I ordered mine I wanted the glossy display , and I had to specifically check it off , the anti-glare was the default when I ordered my MacBook Pro .
I heard many say they 'd prefer it be anti-glare but I have n't have a problem with the glossy screen .
On the other hand if and when I get a larger external LCD monitor I 'll probably get a hood for it as well .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display?
These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.While it would be better if Apple offered glossy as well as anti-glare displays some prefer the glossy displays.
When I ordered mine I wanted the glossy display, and I had to specifically check it off, the anti-glare was the default when I ordered my MacBook Pro.
I heard many say they'd prefer it be anti-glare but I haven't have a problem with the glossy screen.
On the other hand if and when I get a larger external LCD monitor I'll probably get a hood for it as well.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260563</id>
	<title>Re:Shake it</title>
	<author>quacking duck</author>
	<datestamp>1244475420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This <a href="http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-04-03/" title="dilbert.com">classic Dilbert strip</a> [dilbert.com] was fall-down funny when it came out in 1995, yet 14 years later you literally do shake a handheld computer to reset (undo) something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This classic Dilbert strip [ dilbert.com ] was fall-down funny when it came out in 1995 , yet 14 years later you literally do shake a handheld computer to reset ( undo ) something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This classic Dilbert strip [dilbert.com] was fall-down funny when it came out in 1995, yet 14 years later you literally do shake a handheld computer to reset (undo) something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258415</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244462940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No anti-gloss is exactly the reason why I did not break the bank just now.  I still have a MBP 4,1, unlike the parent above, and by noting the nice Anti-Glare display that most PC competitors did not offer is how I got some PC users to convert to Macs.</p><p>Well at least my other request have been answered, they are finally offering a 13 inch Macbook Pro, although does anybody beside myself feel like we are being cheated by Apple?  Isn't the 13 inch Macbook Pro right now the 13 inch Macbook from yesterday?  I guess more RAM + SD Card slot = Pro.</p><p>Also, does anyone feel that the Macbook section is kind of empty now?  Does anyone smell Netbooks coming along?</p><p>And one last thing, why is the iPhone 3GS still not an iPhone 3G?  I mean, I thought the whole argument behind 3G was because we can make video calls, so where is the front camera that all other 3G phones seemingly have?</p><p>Well, to sum it up, this is still one hell of a WWDC keynote, one of the most satisfying in recent memory, just because there are so much updates being offered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No anti-gloss is exactly the reason why I did not break the bank just now .
I still have a MBP 4,1 , unlike the parent above , and by noting the nice Anti-Glare display that most PC competitors did not offer is how I got some PC users to convert to Macs.Well at least my other request have been answered , they are finally offering a 13 inch Macbook Pro , although does anybody beside myself feel like we are being cheated by Apple ?
Is n't the 13 inch Macbook Pro right now the 13 inch Macbook from yesterday ?
I guess more RAM + SD Card slot = Pro.Also , does anyone feel that the Macbook section is kind of empty now ?
Does anyone smell Netbooks coming along ? And one last thing , why is the iPhone 3GS still not an iPhone 3G ?
I mean , I thought the whole argument behind 3G was because we can make video calls , so where is the front camera that all other 3G phones seemingly have ? Well , to sum it up , this is still one hell of a WWDC keynote , one of the most satisfying in recent memory , just because there are so much updates being offered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No anti-gloss is exactly the reason why I did not break the bank just now.
I still have a MBP 4,1, unlike the parent above, and by noting the nice Anti-Glare display that most PC competitors did not offer is how I got some PC users to convert to Macs.Well at least my other request have been answered, they are finally offering a 13 inch Macbook Pro, although does anybody beside myself feel like we are being cheated by Apple?
Isn't the 13 inch Macbook Pro right now the 13 inch Macbook from yesterday?
I guess more RAM + SD Card slot = Pro.Also, does anyone feel that the Macbook section is kind of empty now?
Does anyone smell Netbooks coming along?And one last thing, why is the iPhone 3GS still not an iPhone 3G?
I mean, I thought the whole argument behind 3G was because we can make video calls, so where is the front camera that all other 3G phones seemingly have?Well, to sum it up, this is still one hell of a WWDC keynote, one of the most satisfying in recent memory, just because there are so much updates being offered.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254791</id>
	<title>Seems cheap but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check out the fine print from the Apple Store:</p><p>"For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)."</p><p>Ouch for upgraders.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out the fine print from the Apple Store : " For non-qualified customers , including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G , the price with a new two-year agreement is $ 499 ( 8GB ) , $ 599 ( 16GB ) , or $ 699 ( 32GB ) .
" Ouch for upgraders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out the fine print from the Apple Store:"For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&amp;T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB).
"Ouch for upgraders.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28314281</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244801940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read a study that said that performance actually could go down, since 64-bit pointers means more overhead in fetching pointer addresses from memory.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read a study that said that performance actually could go down , since 64-bit pointers means more overhead in fetching pointer addresses from memory .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read a study that said that performance actually could go down, since 64-bit pointers means more overhead in fetching pointer addresses from memory.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257427</id>
	<title>Re:HTML 5 is the big deal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought it was interesting that Apple didn't specify WHICH codecs would be used for the HTML5  and  tags.  Somehow I doubt it's the Xiph codecs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was interesting that Apple did n't specify WHICH codecs would be used for the HTML5 and tags .
Somehow I doubt it 's the Xiph codecs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was interesting that Apple didn't specify WHICH codecs would be used for the HTML5  and  tags.
Somehow I doubt it's the Xiph codecs.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255193</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256691</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>esme</author>
	<datestamp>1244455920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me share with you a special URL:</p><p><a href="http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/" title="macrumors.com">http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/</a> [macrumors.com]</p><p>Before you buy anything from Apple, check this URL.  It will save you much heartache.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me share with you a special URL : http : //buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [ macrumors.com ] Before you buy anything from Apple , check this URL .
It will save you much heartache .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me share with you a special URL:http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/ [macrumors.com]Before you buy anything from Apple, check this URL.
It will save you much heartache.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256025</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244453760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>In  North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT. </p></div><p>North America != USA.</p><p>USA is exclusive to ATT, not North America.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT .
North America ! = USA.USA is exclusive to ATT , not North America .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In  North America the Iphone is exclusive to ATT.
North America != USA.USA is exclusive to ATT, not North America.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257201</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>jeff4747</author>
	<datestamp>1244457900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space.</p></div></blockquote><p>I don't see how.</p><p>First of all, what's the point of a netbook besides "I have a cool device"?  </p><p>Quick email check?  Use your phone.</p><p>Surf the web?  I bet you can manage to buy a double mocha frappachino without seeing who else is buying one at that moment on twitter.</p><p>Really, what's the space they're supposed to serve when there's devices that are smaller for the 'easy portability', and devices that have a lot more capability for not that much more size and weight.</p><p>Secondly, netbooks are currently very low margin.  Why spend the R&amp;D bucks for something that appears to just be a fad when there's no margin in it?  Instead, they'll do what Apple always does: be 3rd to market.  Let Dell, et al work out if netbooks make sense, and what the specs and price points are.  Once they've sunk a lot of cash into it, Apple shows up with a better one.  Just like they did with mp3 players.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the " netbook " space.I do n't see how.First of all , what 's the point of a netbook besides " I have a cool device " ?
Quick email check ?
Use your phone.Surf the web ?
I bet you can manage to buy a double mocha frappachino without seeing who else is buying one at that moment on twitter.Really , what 's the space they 're supposed to serve when there 's devices that are smaller for the 'easy portability ' , and devices that have a lot more capability for not that much more size and weight.Secondly , netbooks are currently very low margin .
Why spend the R&amp;D bucks for something that appears to just be a fad when there 's no margin in it ?
Instead , they 'll do what Apple always does : be 3rd to market .
Let Dell , et al work out if netbooks make sense , and what the specs and price points are .
Once they 've sunk a lot of cash into it , Apple shows up with a better one .
Just like they did with mp3 players .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space.I don't see how.First of all, what's the point of a netbook besides "I have a cool device"?
Quick email check?
Use your phone.Surf the web?
I bet you can manage to buy a double mocha frappachino without seeing who else is buying one at that moment on twitter.Really, what's the space they're supposed to serve when there's devices that are smaller for the 'easy portability', and devices that have a lot more capability for not that much more size and weight.Secondly, netbooks are currently very low margin.
Why spend the R&amp;D bucks for something that appears to just be a fad when there's no margin in it?
Instead, they'll do what Apple always does: be 3rd to market.
Let Dell, et al work out if netbooks make sense, and what the specs and price points are.
Once they've sunk a lot of cash into it, Apple shows up with a better one.
Just like they did with mp3 players.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254683</id>
	<title>yeh, too bad...</title>
	<author>inerlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1244492940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>they're still married to AT&amp;T....</htmltext>
<tokenext>they 're still married to AT&amp;T... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they're still married to AT&amp;T....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255855</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>pknoll</author>
	<datestamp>1244453160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're currently eligible to upgrade your hardware with AT&amp;T, you get the $99/$199/$299 prices. All new hardware requires a new contract with AT&amp;T, and if you're not currently eligible, you pay full price. This isn't unique to the iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're currently eligible to upgrade your hardware with AT&amp;T , you get the $ 99/ $ 199/ $ 299 prices .
All new hardware requires a new contract with AT&amp;T , and if you 're not currently eligible , you pay full price .
This is n't unique to the iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're currently eligible to upgrade your hardware with AT&amp;T, you get the $99/$199/$299 prices.
All new hardware requires a new contract with AT&amp;T, and if you're not currently eligible, you pay full price.
This isn't unique to the iPhone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254773</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254879</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This "whole conference" just started two hours ago, jackass.
<br> <br>
The lack of tethering in the US is obviously AT&amp;T's fault, which is the point that Apple (tactfully) made clear.
<br> <br>
The battery situation (to the extent that you meant battery life, the only metric that matters for batteries) *improved* across the board.
<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and referring to SL as a service pack to Leopard simply confirms that you're nothing more than a moron spouting off about things you cannot even understand.
<br> <br>
yeah, i fed the troll, so what?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This " whole conference " just started two hours ago , jackass .
The lack of tethering in the US is obviously AT&amp;T 's fault , which is the point that Apple ( tactfully ) made clear .
The battery situation ( to the extent that you meant battery life , the only metric that matters for batteries ) * improved * across the board .
...and referring to SL as a service pack to Leopard simply confirms that you 're nothing more than a moron spouting off about things you can not even understand .
yeah , i fed the troll , so what ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This "whole conference" just started two hours ago, jackass.
The lack of tethering in the US is obviously AT&amp;T's fault, which is the point that Apple (tactfully) made clear.
The battery situation (to the extent that you meant battery life, the only metric that matters for batteries) *improved* across the board.
...and referring to SL as a service pack to Leopard simply confirms that you're nothing more than a moron spouting off about things you cannot even understand.
yeah, i fed the troll, so what?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256905</id>
	<title>Re:Snow Leopard URLs now 404 or redirect</title>
	<author>mzs</author>
	<datestamp>1244456760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I guessed this URL and decided to post what is there before it gets changed, 404s, or redirects as well. Of note are that OpenCL seems to have no software backend and requires capable GPUs, Grand Central requires at least two cores (no fall-back so devs can use the same API?), and PPC is gone (even G5):</p><p><a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html" title="apple.com">http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html</a> [apple.com]</p><p>General requirements<br>Intel Core 2 Duo (pictured, but only intel required it seems, see the next line)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Mac computer with an Intel processor<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 1GB of memory<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * 5GB of free disk space<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * DVD drive for installation<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Some features require Apple's MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.</p><p>Feature-specific requirements</p><p>Time Machine</p><p>Time Machine requires an additional hard drive or Time Capsule (sold separately).</p><p>Photo Booth</p><p>requires an iSight camera (built in or external), USB video class (UVC) camera, or FireWire DV camcorder. Backdrop effects when using a DV camcorder require fixed focus, exposure, and white balance.</p><p>Boot Camp</p><p>requires Windows XP with Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista (sold separately).</p><p>Screen sharing</p><p>in iChat and the Finder requires a 128-Kbps Internet connection (300 Kbps recommended).</p><p>DVD Player</p><p>requires a 1.6GHz processor or faster for improved deinterlacing.</p><p>iChat</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Audio chats require a microphone and a 56-Kbps Internet connection.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Video chats require an iSight camera (built in or external), USB video class (UVC) camera, or FireWire DV camcorder; and a 128-Kbps upstream and downstream Internet connection.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Backdrop effects when using a DV camcorder require fixed focus, exposure, and white balance.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Some iChat features offer better performance and quality with higher system capabilities. More details</p><p>Exchange Support</p><p>requires Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 1 Update Rollup 4. Auto-setup requires enabling the Autodiscovery feature of Microsoft Exchange Server.</p><p>QuickTime X movie capture</p><p>requires iSight camera (built-in or external), USB video class (UVC) camera, or FireWire DV camcorder.<br>QuickTime H.264 hardware acceleration</p><p>requires a Mac with a NVIDIA 9400M graphics processor.</p><p>Developer tools</p><p>require 1GB of memory and an additional 3GB of available disk space.</p><p>OpenCL</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 8800 GTS, Geforce 9400M, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce GT 120, GeForce GT 130.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * ATI Radeon 4850, Radeon 4870</p><p>64-bit support</p><p>requires a Mac with a 64-bit processor.</p><p>Grand Central Dispatch</p><p>requires a Mac with a multicore processor.</p><p>How to get Mac OS X<br>Snow Leopard.</p><p>Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard will be available in September 2009. Here's how to get it.</p><p>With every new Mac.</p><p>When it's released, every new Mac computer will come with Mac OS X Snow Leopard already installed. You won't need to do anything.</p><p>Snow Leopard Up-to-Date Program.</p><p>If you purchased a qualifying Mac on or after June 8, 2009, that does not include Mac OS X Snow Leopard, you can upgrade for $9.95.</p><p>Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.</p><p>If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard, just purchase Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard when it's available and follow the simple installation instructions.</p><p>Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.</p><p>If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set (when available), which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard; iLife '09, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork '09, Apple's productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I guessed this URL and decided to post what is there before it gets changed , 404s , or redirects as well .
Of note are that OpenCL seems to have no software backend and requires capable GPUs , Grand Central requires at least two cores ( no fall-back so devs can use the same API ?
) , and PPC is gone ( even G5 ) : http : //www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html [ apple.com ] General requirementsIntel Core 2 Duo ( pictured , but only intel required it seems , see the next line )         * Mac computer with an Intel processor         * 1GB of memory         * 5GB of free disk space         * DVD drive for installation         * Some features require a compatible Internet service provider ; fees may apply .
        * Some features require Apple 's MobileMe service ; fees and terms apply.Feature-specific requirementsTime MachineTime Machine requires an additional hard drive or Time Capsule ( sold separately ) .Photo Boothrequires an iSight camera ( built in or external ) , USB video class ( UVC ) camera , or FireWire DV camcorder .
Backdrop effects when using a DV camcorder require fixed focus , exposure , and white balance.Boot Camprequires Windows XP with Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista ( sold separately ) .Screen sharingin iChat and the Finder requires a 128-Kbps Internet connection ( 300 Kbps recommended ) .DVD Playerrequires a 1.6GHz processor or faster for improved deinterlacing.iChat         * Audio chats require a microphone and a 56-Kbps Internet connection .
        * Video chats require an iSight camera ( built in or external ) , USB video class ( UVC ) camera , or FireWire DV camcorder ; and a 128-Kbps upstream and downstream Internet connection .
        * Backdrop effects when using a DV camcorder require fixed focus , exposure , and white balance .
        * Some iChat features offer better performance and quality with higher system capabilities .
More detailsExchange Supportrequires Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 1 Update Rollup 4 .
Auto-setup requires enabling the Autodiscovery feature of Microsoft Exchange Server.QuickTime X movie capturerequires iSight camera ( built-in or external ) , USB video class ( UVC ) camera , or FireWire DV camcorder.QuickTime H.264 hardware accelerationrequires a Mac with a NVIDIA 9400M graphics processor.Developer toolsrequire 1GB of memory and an additional 3GB of available disk space.OpenCL         * NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT , GeForce 8800 GT , GeForce 8800 GTS , Geforce 9400M , GeForce 9600M GT , GeForce GT 120 , GeForce GT 130 .
        * ATI Radeon 4850 , Radeon 487064-bit supportrequires a Mac with a 64-bit processor.Grand Central Dispatchrequires a Mac with a multicore processor.How to get Mac OS XSnow Leopard.Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard will be available in September 2009 .
Here 's how to get it.With every new Mac.When it 's released , every new Mac computer will come with Mac OS X Snow Leopard already installed .
You wo n't need to do anything.Snow Leopard Up-to-Date Program.If you purchased a qualifying Mac on or after June 8 , 2009 , that does not include Mac OS X Snow Leopard , you can upgrade for $ 9.95.Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard , just purchase Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard when it 's available and follow the simple installation instructions.Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger , purchase the Mac Box Set ( when available ) , which is a single , affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard ; iLife '09 , with the latest versions of iPhoto , iMovie , GarageBand , iWeb , and iDVD ; and iWork '09 , Apple 's productivity suite for home and office including Pages , Numbers , and Keynote .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guessed this URL and decided to post what is there before it gets changed, 404s, or redirects as well.
Of note are that OpenCL seems to have no software backend and requires capable GPUs, Grand Central requires at least two cores (no fall-back so devs can use the same API?
), and PPC is gone (even G5):http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html [apple.com]General requirementsIntel Core 2 Duo (pictured, but only intel required it seems, see the next line)
        * Mac computer with an Intel processor
        * 1GB of memory
        * 5GB of free disk space
        * DVD drive for installation
        * Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.
        * Some features require Apple's MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.Feature-specific requirementsTime MachineTime Machine requires an additional hard drive or Time Capsule (sold separately).Photo Boothrequires an iSight camera (built in or external), USB video class (UVC) camera, or FireWire DV camcorder.
Backdrop effects when using a DV camcorder require fixed focus, exposure, and white balance.Boot Camprequires Windows XP with Service Pack 2 or Windows Vista (sold separately).Screen sharingin iChat and the Finder requires a 128-Kbps Internet connection (300 Kbps recommended).DVD Playerrequires a 1.6GHz processor or faster for improved deinterlacing.iChat
        * Audio chats require a microphone and a 56-Kbps Internet connection.
        * Video chats require an iSight camera (built in or external), USB video class (UVC) camera, or FireWire DV camcorder; and a 128-Kbps upstream and downstream Internet connection.
        * Backdrop effects when using a DV camcorder require fixed focus, exposure, and white balance.
        * Some iChat features offer better performance and quality with higher system capabilities.
More detailsExchange Supportrequires Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 1 Update Rollup 4.
Auto-setup requires enabling the Autodiscovery feature of Microsoft Exchange Server.QuickTime X movie capturerequires iSight camera (built-in or external), USB video class (UVC) camera, or FireWire DV camcorder.QuickTime H.264 hardware accelerationrequires a Mac with a NVIDIA 9400M graphics processor.Developer toolsrequire 1GB of memory and an additional 3GB of available disk space.OpenCL
        * NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT, GeForce 8800 GT, GeForce 8800 GTS, Geforce 9400M, GeForce 9600M GT, GeForce GT 120, GeForce GT 130.
        * ATI Radeon 4850, Radeon 487064-bit supportrequires a Mac with a 64-bit processor.Grand Central Dispatchrequires a Mac with a multicore processor.How to get Mac OS XSnow Leopard.Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard will be available in September 2009.
Here's how to get it.With every new Mac.When it's released, every new Mac computer will come with Mac OS X Snow Leopard already installed.
You won't need to do anything.Snow Leopard Up-to-Date Program.If you purchased a qualifying Mac on or after June 8, 2009, that does not include Mac OS X Snow Leopard, you can upgrade for $9.95.Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard, just purchase Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard when it's available and follow the simple installation instructions.Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set (when available), which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard; iLife '09, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork '09, Apple's productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256547</id>
	<title>Fuck the jewphone!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's evil, don't buy it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's evil , do n't buy it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's evil, don't buy it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28263363</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1244547000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable? I don't see that as a major issue. How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?</p></div><p>Well, my MBP just had its battery replaced; after around 100 charge cycles it was down to 50\% of the maximum charge.  Apple sent out a new one in a box, I put the old one in the same box and a UPS man came and took it away, all under warranty.  If the battery was not removable, I'd have had to post the machine to them.  I've done that a few times before.  The best time, it was returned three days later, the worst they lost it and finally replaced it two months later.  The more bits can be replaced easily by the user, the less chance I have of that happening again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The batteries now have way more battery life , which is n't " worsening " the battery situation in my book .
Perhaps you 're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable ?
I do n't see that as a major issue .
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery ? Well , my MBP just had its battery replaced ; after around 100 charge cycles it was down to 50 \ % of the maximum charge .
Apple sent out a new one in a box , I put the old one in the same box and a UPS man came and took it away , all under warranty .
If the battery was not removable , I 'd have had to post the machine to them .
I 've done that a few times before .
The best time , it was returned three days later , the worst they lost it and finally replaced it two months later .
The more bits can be replaced easily by the user , the less chance I have of that happening again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book.
Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable?
I don't see that as a major issue.
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?Well, my MBP just had its battery replaced; after around 100 charge cycles it was down to 50\% of the maximum charge.
Apple sent out a new one in a box, I put the old one in the same box and a UPS man came and took it away, all under warranty.
If the battery was not removable, I'd have had to post the machine to them.
I've done that a few times before.
The best time, it was returned three days later, the worst they lost it and finally replaced it two months later.
The more bits can be replaced easily by the user, the less chance I have of that happening again.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254931</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>0xdeadbeef</author>
	<datestamp>1244493720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I particularly liked how they introduced third-party peripheral support, something other PDAs had over a decade ago, and all the demos failed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I particularly liked how they introduced third-party peripheral support , something other PDAs had over a decade ago , and all the demos failed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I particularly liked how they introduced third-party peripheral support, something other PDAs had over a decade ago, and all the demos failed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262053</id>
	<title>Re:OS X updates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244488080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>$29 isn't a bad price.</p><p>2007</p><p>29 bucks for a service pack strikes me as steep, but whatever.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 29 is n't a bad price.200729 bucks for a service pack strikes me as steep , but whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$29 isn't a bad price.200729 bucks for a service pack strikes me as steep, but whatever.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256429</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Elwood P Dowd</author>
	<datestamp>1244455020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes! For example, my contract is over in December 2009. If I would like to renew now for 2 years, I only have to pay $499 for the 32GB phone.</p><p>Lucky me!</p><p>Of course, the real $$ in all of these smartphones is the monthly service. So the primary reason I am not dying to pay $500 is that I am not dying to sign up for $2400 over the next two years.</p><p>Eventually, Google Voice will port in #s. That'll be an interesting day. Then maybe they'll offer iPhone plans at mifi prices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes !
For example , my contract is over in December 2009 .
If I would like to renew now for 2 years , I only have to pay $ 499 for the 32GB phone.Lucky me ! Of course , the real $ $ in all of these smartphones is the monthly service .
So the primary reason I am not dying to pay $ 500 is that I am not dying to sign up for $ 2400 over the next two years.Eventually , Google Voice will port in # s. That 'll be an interesting day .
Then maybe they 'll offer iPhone plans at mifi prices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes!
For example, my contract is over in December 2009.
If I would like to renew now for 2 years, I only have to pay $499 for the 32GB phone.Lucky me!Of course, the real $$ in all of these smartphones is the monthly service.
So the primary reason I am not dying to pay $500 is that I am not dying to sign up for $2400 over the next two years.Eventually, Google Voice will port in #s. That'll be an interesting day.
Then maybe they'll offer iPhone plans at mifi prices.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255165</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256041</id>
	<title>The rumors that didn't come true</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1244453820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No rubbery backing? (Would have helped with dropping and sliding)<br>No illuminated apple logo? (Would have helped with night pictures, dark bars(pubs), etc.)<br>802.11n - Is this there, just not mentioned<br>Enhanced graphics processor - again, there, but not mentioned?<br>FM Transmitter - or was this the Nike+ thing? So no tuning to your iPhone? Bummer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No rubbery backing ?
( Would have helped with dropping and sliding ) No illuminated apple logo ?
( Would have helped with night pictures , dark bars ( pubs ) , etc .
) 802.11n - Is this there , just not mentionedEnhanced graphics processor - again , there , but not mentioned ? FM Transmitter - or was this the Nike + thing ?
So no tuning to your iPhone ?
Bummer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No rubbery backing?
(Would have helped with dropping and sliding)No illuminated apple logo?
(Would have helped with night pictures, dark bars(pubs), etc.
)802.11n - Is this there, just not mentionedEnhanced graphics processor - again, there, but not mentioned?FM Transmitter - or was this the Nike+ thing?
So no tuning to your iPhone?
Bummer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</id>
	<title>The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This whole conference was crap. All Apple did was bash Windows, introduce a service pack for Leopard priced at 29USD, and introduce a phone which, well, is only evolutionary, and tell everyone in the US that tethering via AT&amp;T isn't an option for god-knows-what-reason.
<br> <br>
They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros, worsened the battery situation on said laptops, and generally just ripped everyone off. What a waste of time.
<br> <br>
What was with the Windows-bashing? They didn't even give a reason. All they said was that it's built on top of Vista... well, duh? Snow Leopard is built on top of Leopard. That's supposed to mean something? Apple is spending a good amount of effort trying to become the biggest troll on the planet... for what? What's the benefit? Too many of my friends were turned off by the unnecessary Windows-bashing; I guess if Apple was trying to win over the enterprise crowd, they did a good job of alienating them right from the start.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This whole conference was crap .
All Apple did was bash Windows , introduce a service pack for Leopard priced at 29USD , and introduce a phone which , well , is only evolutionary , and tell everyone in the US that tethering via AT&amp;T is n't an option for god-knows-what-reason .
They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros , worsened the battery situation on said laptops , and generally just ripped everyone off .
What a waste of time .
What was with the Windows-bashing ?
They did n't even give a reason .
All they said was that it 's built on top of Vista... well , duh ?
Snow Leopard is built on top of Leopard .
That 's supposed to mean something ?
Apple is spending a good amount of effort trying to become the biggest troll on the planet... for what ?
What 's the benefit ?
Too many of my friends were turned off by the unnecessary Windows-bashing ; I guess if Apple was trying to win over the enterprise crowd , they did a good job of alienating them right from the start .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This whole conference was crap.
All Apple did was bash Windows, introduce a service pack for Leopard priced at 29USD, and introduce a phone which, well, is only evolutionary, and tell everyone in the US that tethering via AT&amp;T isn't an option for god-knows-what-reason.
They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros, worsened the battery situation on said laptops, and generally just ripped everyone off.
What a waste of time.
What was with the Windows-bashing?
They didn't even give a reason.
All they said was that it's built on top of Vista... well, duh?
Snow Leopard is built on top of Leopard.
That's supposed to mean something?
Apple is spending a good amount of effort trying to become the biggest troll on the planet... for what?
What's the benefit?
Too many of my friends were turned off by the unnecessary Windows-bashing; I guess if Apple was trying to win over the enterprise crowd, they did a good job of alienating them right from the start.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256453</id>
	<title>3G cheap as chips!</title>
	<author>YourExperiment</author>
	<datestamp>1244455140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, I can get a 3G for $99? I'll take one! Oh wait, I have to pay <i>how much</i> on the contract?</p><p>I do wish the media would stop parroting these utterly irrelevant "costs" for mobile devices straight from the press release, as if it was true or something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , I can get a 3G for $ 99 ?
I 'll take one !
Oh wait , I have to pay how much on the contract ? I do wish the media would stop parroting these utterly irrelevant " costs " for mobile devices straight from the press release , as if it was true or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, I can get a 3G for $99?
I'll take one!
Oh wait, I have to pay how much on the contract?I do wish the media would stop parroting these utterly irrelevant "costs" for mobile devices straight from the press release, as if it was true or something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257401</id>
	<title>Re:The rumors that didn't come true</title>
	<author>tyrione</author>
	<datestamp>1244458740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Think iPod Touch for the gaming environment to get a boost and the FM Transmitter. The OLED and Radio in the iPod Touch makes the most sense and a product differentiator.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Think iPod Touch for the gaming environment to get a boost and the FM Transmitter .
The OLED and Radio in the iPod Touch makes the most sense and a product differentiator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Think iPod Touch for the gaming environment to get a boost and the FM Transmitter.
The OLED and Radio in the iPod Touch makes the most sense and a product differentiator.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256041</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257543</id>
	<title>Re:PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook.</title>
	<author>squallbsr</author>
	<datestamp>1244459220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmm, I bought my Core 2 Duo MacBook like 2.5 years ago, that was a second generation MacBook.  The PowerPC models are just a tad bit older than that.  Its not Apple's fault that you bought a bargain-basement-closeout-special Powerbook when they were selling Intel MacBooks new...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , I bought my Core 2 Duo MacBook like 2.5 years ago , that was a second generation MacBook .
The PowerPC models are just a tad bit older than that .
Its not Apple 's fault that you bought a bargain-basement-closeout-special Powerbook when they were selling Intel MacBooks new.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, I bought my Core 2 Duo MacBook like 2.5 years ago, that was a second generation MacBook.
The PowerPC models are just a tad bit older than that.
Its not Apple's fault that you bought a bargain-basement-closeout-special Powerbook when they were selling Intel MacBooks new...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255679</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257121</id>
	<title>no video card updates at all? a $1700 latop with o</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1244457600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>no video card updates at all? a $1700 latop with on board video?? removeing the exprees card slot? no blue ray? nice job apple!</p><p>I will just keep my $1600 laptop with 17" mate screen, ati 4850 512, blue ray, 320gb 7200 hd, 3 usb , 1 usb / e-sata , firewire , sd slot , 4gb of ram, HDMI. It also has mini pci-e slots on the in side as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>no video card updates at all ?
a $ 1700 latop with on board video ? ?
removeing the exprees card slot ?
no blue ray ?
nice job apple ! I will just keep my $ 1600 laptop with 17 " mate screen , ati 4850 512 , blue ray , 320gb 7200 hd , 3 usb , 1 usb / e-sata , firewire , sd slot , 4gb of ram , HDMI .
It also has mini pci-e slots on the in side as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no video card updates at all?
a $1700 latop with on board video??
removeing the exprees card slot?
no blue ray?
nice job apple!I will just keep my $1600 laptop with 17" mate screen, ati 4850 512, blue ray, 320gb 7200 hd, 3 usb , 1 usb / e-sata , firewire , sd slot , 4gb of ram, HDMI.
It also has mini pci-e slots on the in side as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259117</id>
	<title>Re:The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps some civil unrest would help to talk to AT&amp;T, since all our iphone plans are "unlimited" data plans we all could start to downstream large files and see how well all customers of AT&amp;T like it, I believe that tethering will add a spike because it will be a novelty with the iPhone but will increase network not in huge proportions in the long run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps some civil unrest would help to talk to AT&amp;T , since all our iphone plans are " unlimited " data plans we all could start to downstream large files and see how well all customers of AT&amp;T like it , I believe that tethering will add a spike because it will be a novelty with the iPhone but will increase network not in huge proportions in the long run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps some civil unrest would help to talk to AT&amp;T, since all our iphone plans are "unlimited" data plans we all could start to downstream large files and see how well all customers of AT&amp;T like it, I believe that tethering will add a spike because it will be a novelty with the iPhone but will increase network not in huge proportions in the long run.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255211</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255633</id>
	<title>Re:No OpenGL ES 2.0</title>
	<author>bomanbot</author>
	<datestamp>1244452560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you sure? I was reading some of the live coverage of the the keynote and found in the live coverage from <a href="http://live.gdgt.com/2009/06/08/live-wwdc-2009-keynote-coverage/" title="gdgt.com">gdgt</a> [gdgt.com] the following passage:<blockquote><div><p>11:48AM - Averages 2x speed increase -- some things are even faster. OpenGL ES 2.0 support. 7.2Mbps HSDPA. Big applause. "The new iPhone 3G S is a REALLY fast phone."</p></div></blockquote><p>
I have also read the official press release from Apple (not sure if it is already released yet, but it should be soon) and it also mentions OpenGL ES 2.0, so I think you got your upgrade after all<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure ?
I was reading some of the live coverage of the the keynote and found in the live coverage from gdgt [ gdgt.com ] the following passage : 11 : 48AM - Averages 2x speed increase -- some things are even faster .
OpenGL ES 2.0 support .
7.2Mbps HSDPA .
Big applause .
" The new iPhone 3G S is a REALLY fast phone .
" I have also read the official press release from Apple ( not sure if it is already released yet , but it should be soon ) and it also mentions OpenGL ES 2.0 , so I think you got your upgrade after all : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure?
I was reading some of the live coverage of the the keynote and found in the live coverage from gdgt [gdgt.com] the following passage:11:48AM - Averages 2x speed increase -- some things are even faster.
OpenGL ES 2.0 support.
7.2Mbps HSDPA.
Big applause.
"The new iPhone 3G S is a REALLY fast phone.
"
I have also read the official press release from Apple (not sure if it is already released yet, but it should be soon) and it also mentions OpenGL ES 2.0, so I think you got your upgrade after all :)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255043</id>
	<title>Re:Front Camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244494140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No one wants to see thousands of photos of your face or your private parts.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No one wants to see thousands of photos of your face or your private parts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one wants to see thousands of photos of your face or your private parts.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254653</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256793</id>
	<title>Re:No OpenGL ES 2.0</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244456340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where did you get that from.</p><p>http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk/</p><p>Look at the panel on the right. It's the first thing listed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where did you get that from.http : //developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk/Look at the panel on the right .
It 's the first thing listed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where did you get that from.http://developer.apple.com/iphone/program/sdk/Look at the panel on the right.
It's the first thing listed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257107</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244457540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except if you're not in the USA. The rest of North America says hi!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except if you 're not in the USA .
The rest of North America says hi !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except if you're not in the USA.
The rest of North America says hi!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254615</id>
	<title>Gay Nerd Ejaculation Imminent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stand back, he's gunna blow Steve Jobs!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stand back , he 's gunna blow Steve Jobs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stand back, he's gunna blow Steve Jobs!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256913</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>iluvcapra</author>
	<datestamp>1244456760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>From what I understand, sound studio apps really, really don't need specialized hardware -- CPUs are more than fast enough.</p></div><p>Well, as a practical matter, if you want to have 512 independent busses with sample-accurate sync and zero latency, and dozens of independent EQs and reverbs all running in RT, you'll generally need something, like Pro Tools cards with a dozen SHARCs on them, but most people don't do that, aside from the machine this message is being posted from.  All that hardware to waste...  Must get back to work.</p><p>Of course, Pro Tools has a vendor-specific plugin arch where you write code that can be run on different classes of DSP hardware.  The platform just loads your code onto the cards and then the CPU can forget about that audio filter...  There's definitely room to grow this tech in the open platform space, and this OpenCL business looks like a good way of doing that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I understand , sound studio apps really , really do n't need specialized hardware -- CPUs are more than fast enough.Well , as a practical matter , if you want to have 512 independent busses with sample-accurate sync and zero latency , and dozens of independent EQs and reverbs all running in RT , you 'll generally need something , like Pro Tools cards with a dozen SHARCs on them , but most people do n't do that , aside from the machine this message is being posted from .
All that hardware to waste... Must get back to work.Of course , Pro Tools has a vendor-specific plugin arch where you write code that can be run on different classes of DSP hardware .
The platform just loads your code onto the cards and then the CPU can forget about that audio filter... There 's definitely room to grow this tech in the open platform space , and this OpenCL business looks like a good way of doing that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I understand, sound studio apps really, really don't need specialized hardware -- CPUs are more than fast enough.Well, as a practical matter, if you want to have 512 independent busses with sample-accurate sync and zero latency, and dozens of independent EQs and reverbs all running in RT, you'll generally need something, like Pro Tools cards with a dozen SHARCs on them, but most people don't do that, aside from the machine this message is being posted from.
All that hardware to waste...  Must get back to work.Of course, Pro Tools has a vendor-specific plugin arch where you write code that can be run on different classes of DSP hardware.
The platform just loads your code onto the cards and then the CPU can forget about that audio filter...  There's definitely room to grow this tech in the open platform space, and this OpenCL business looks like a good way of doing that.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255193</id>
	<title>HTML 5 is the big deal</title>
	<author>WiiVault</author>
	<datestamp>1244494560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seeing Apple jump on board with HTML 5 and especially the video/audio tags is huge. If Apple is right that they own 65\% of mobile browsing; having them stay up to date with standards is huge and ought to set the tone for others.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seeing Apple jump on board with HTML 5 and especially the video/audio tags is huge .
If Apple is right that they own 65 \ % of mobile browsing ; having them stay up to date with standards is huge and ought to set the tone for others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeing Apple jump on board with HTML 5 and especially the video/audio tags is huge.
If Apple is right that they own 65\% of mobile browsing; having them stay up to date with standards is huge and ought to set the tone for others.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258565</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244463660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Answers to your line comments:</p><p>3) most (as in 20) of my MacBook Pro users have Expresscard Wireless devices from Verizon. They now much buy USB ones. This costs us money; some of these devices are less than 2 years old and cost around $80 each. Did I mention we're federal, so it's your tax dollars being spent to replace these cards because of Apple's arbitrary decision.</p><p>4) I have a 2nd Gen intel MacBook Pro on it's 3rd battery. It is less than 5 years old. I do not have any ouch of faith that the internal ones will do any better. I have folks, again who spend your tax dollars, who cycle thru one a year because of use.</p><p>8) Because the enterprise crowd won't buy hardware that does not have redundant power supplies. Apple sells toys as servers.</p><p>1, 7, 8) Other than Michael Dell or Steve Ballmer, please name me one CEO or representative from a major company (Fortune 500/100) that has bashed their competition? I don't see anything when i google Ubuntu, Suse, Red hat bashes WIndows... can't seem to find it. Please give a reference, professionals do not stop to kindergarten tactics to make business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Answers to your line comments : 3 ) most ( as in 20 ) of my MacBook Pro users have Expresscard Wireless devices from Verizon .
They now much buy USB ones .
This costs us money ; some of these devices are less than 2 years old and cost around $ 80 each .
Did I mention we 're federal , so it 's your tax dollars being spent to replace these cards because of Apple 's arbitrary decision.4 ) I have a 2nd Gen intel MacBook Pro on it 's 3rd battery .
It is less than 5 years old .
I do not have any ouch of faith that the internal ones will do any better .
I have folks , again who spend your tax dollars , who cycle thru one a year because of use.8 ) Because the enterprise crowd wo n't buy hardware that does not have redundant power supplies .
Apple sells toys as servers.1 , 7 , 8 ) Other than Michael Dell or Steve Ballmer , please name me one CEO or representative from a major company ( Fortune 500/100 ) that has bashed their competition ?
I do n't see anything when i google Ubuntu , Suse , Red hat bashes WIndows... ca n't seem to find it .
Please give a reference , professionals do not stop to kindergarten tactics to make business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Answers to your line comments:3) most (as in 20) of my MacBook Pro users have Expresscard Wireless devices from Verizon.
They now much buy USB ones.
This costs us money; some of these devices are less than 2 years old and cost around $80 each.
Did I mention we're federal, so it's your tax dollars being spent to replace these cards because of Apple's arbitrary decision.4) I have a 2nd Gen intel MacBook Pro on it's 3rd battery.
It is less than 5 years old.
I do not have any ouch of faith that the internal ones will do any better.
I have folks, again who spend your tax dollars, who cycle thru one a year because of use.8) Because the enterprise crowd won't buy hardware that does not have redundant power supplies.
Apple sells toys as servers.1, 7, 8) Other than Michael Dell or Steve Ballmer, please name me one CEO or representative from a major company (Fortune 500/100) that has bashed their competition?
I don't see anything when i google Ubuntu, Suse, Red hat bashes WIndows... can't seem to find it.
Please give a reference, professionals do not stop to kindergarten tactics to make business.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255387</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259307</id>
	<title>Re:No iPod touch update?</title>
	<author>ubernostrum</author>
	<datestamp>1244468520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple usually updates the iPod line in the fall, just in time to gear up for the holiday shopping season where iPod sales go through the roof.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple usually updates the iPod line in the fall , just in time to gear up for the holiday shopping season where iPod sales go through the roof .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple usually updates the iPod line in the fall, just in time to gear up for the holiday shopping season where iPod sales go through the roof.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254815</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254703</id>
	<title>OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>adam.dorsey</author>
	<datestamp>1244492940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FTA: <i>and OpenCL a new open graphics standard</i> </p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL" title="wikipedia.org">Not quite.</a> [wikipedia.org] <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr><i>...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs, GPUs, and other processors.</i> </p><p>OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name.  The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well.  You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FTA : and OpenCL a new open graphics standard Not quite .
[ wikipedia.org ] ...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs , GPUs , and other processors .
OpenCL is like CUDA , but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL , hence the name .
The same guys who manage OpenGL ( Khronos ) manage OpenCL as well .
You could probably use it to do graphics , but that would be stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTA: and OpenCL a new open graphics standard Not quite.
[wikipedia.org]  ...a framework for writing programs that execute across heterogeneous platforms consisting of CPUs, GPUs, and other processors.
OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name.
The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well.
You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28275467</id>
	<title>Re:$100 for 16GB?!</title>
	<author>XDirtypunkX</author>
	<datestamp>1244570400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interestingly enough, a lot of phones with "built in" flash don't have it on the PCB. They have a very minimal micro-SD card reader inside and a micro-SD pre-inserted. I'm not saying the iPhone does it this way, but it really might not be as unfair comparison as you might think.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interestingly enough , a lot of phones with " built in " flash do n't have it on the PCB .
They have a very minimal micro-SD card reader inside and a micro-SD pre-inserted .
I 'm not saying the iPhone does it this way , but it really might not be as unfair comparison as you might think .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interestingly enough, a lot of phones with "built in" flash don't have it on the PCB.
They have a very minimal micro-SD card reader inside and a micro-SD pre-inserted.
I'm not saying the iPhone does it this way, but it really might not be as unfair comparison as you might think.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255817</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262561</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>drew</author>
	<datestamp>1244580240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about the iPhone specifically, but if you are far enough into your current contract (typically at least a year) AT&amp;T will always let you sign a "new two-year AT&amp;T wireless service contract".  You don't have to be a new customer to sign a new contract.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about the iPhone specifically , but if you are far enough into your current contract ( typically at least a year ) AT&amp;T will always let you sign a " new two-year AT&amp;T wireless service contract " .
You do n't have to be a new customer to sign a new contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about the iPhone specifically, but if you are far enough into your current contract (typically at least a year) AT&amp;T will always let you sign a "new two-year AT&amp;T wireless service contract".
You don't have to be a new customer to sign a new contract.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254773</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254649</id>
	<title>I'm going to fire my stock broker.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>I'm going to fire my stock broker. The fucker never realized that the companies making KY Jelly and AstroGlide have huge sales increases around the time of a WWDC.<br> <br>I jest, I jest. Go Apple!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to fire my stock broker .
The fucker never realized that the companies making KY Jelly and AstroGlide have huge sales increases around the time of a WWDC .
I jest , I jest .
Go Apple !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to fire my stock broker.
The fucker never realized that the companies making KY Jelly and AstroGlide have huge sales increases around the time of a WWDC.
I jest, I jest.
Go Apple!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255675</id>
	<title>What to do with a broken 16GB iPhone 3G?</title>
	<author>ACAx1985</author>
	<datestamp>1244452680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So now that there is a $200 16GB 3GS, what do with a recently cracked (but completely functional) 16GB 3G? Repairs are $200+<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. throw it out a window?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So now that there is a $ 200 16GB 3GS , what do with a recently cracked ( but completely functional ) 16GB 3G ?
Repairs are $ 200 + .. throw it out a window ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now that there is a $200 16GB 3GS, what do with a recently cracked (but completely functional) 16GB 3G?
Repairs are $200+ .. throw it out a window?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255423</id>
	<title>Re:Front Camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244451900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's hard to find friends these days</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's hard to find friends these days</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's hard to find friends these days</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254653</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257157</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>TheNetAvenger</author>
	<datestamp>1244457720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The point isn't the glossy display, it is the 'cheap' glossy displays that reflect like mirrors.</p><p>There are lots of LCDs on various other brands of laptops with 'glossy' displays that actually filter the light so they don't blind you or act like a mirror.</p><p>The filtered glossy displays cost a few bucks more, but this is Apple, and apparently they don't care about the 'best' hardware anymore.</p><p>This is something we became aware of when our techs bought several glossy laptops back in 2005. The higher end displays, like the 1920x1200 units didn't reflect like the cheaper displays, and the difference of using them in bright light is a massive difference.</p><p>I feel sorry when sitting next to a Mac user at an airport, even when I'm using a Netbook with a filtered glossy screen with no problems and they are having trouble even seeing their screen.</p><p>Sometimes they ask what the trick is, and I have to explain the LCD Gloss finish/cover and Apple uses the cheap crap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The point is n't the glossy display , it is the 'cheap ' glossy displays that reflect like mirrors.There are lots of LCDs on various other brands of laptops with 'glossy ' displays that actually filter the light so they do n't blind you or act like a mirror.The filtered glossy displays cost a few bucks more , but this is Apple , and apparently they do n't care about the 'best ' hardware anymore.This is something we became aware of when our techs bought several glossy laptops back in 2005 .
The higher end displays , like the 1920x1200 units did n't reflect like the cheaper displays , and the difference of using them in bright light is a massive difference.I feel sorry when sitting next to a Mac user at an airport , even when I 'm using a Netbook with a filtered glossy screen with no problems and they are having trouble even seeing their screen.Sometimes they ask what the trick is , and I have to explain the LCD Gloss finish/cover and Apple uses the cheap crap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The point isn't the glossy display, it is the 'cheap' glossy displays that reflect like mirrors.There are lots of LCDs on various other brands of laptops with 'glossy' displays that actually filter the light so they don't blind you or act like a mirror.The filtered glossy displays cost a few bucks more, but this is Apple, and apparently they don't care about the 'best' hardware anymore.This is something we became aware of when our techs bought several glossy laptops back in 2005.
The higher end displays, like the 1920x1200 units didn't reflect like the cheaper displays, and the difference of using them in bright light is a massive difference.I feel sorry when sitting next to a Mac user at an airport, even when I'm using a Netbook with a filtered glossy screen with no problems and they are having trouble even seeing their screen.Sometimes they ask what the trick is, and I have to explain the LCD Gloss finish/cover and Apple uses the cheap crap.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256399</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>AtomicDog</author>
	<datestamp>1244454960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I, too, don't understand why Apple decided to replace the ExpressCard slot with an SD slot on a supposedly pro-level notebook.</p><p>The ExpressCard slot provided the only high-speed expansion option on Apple's notebooks. Maybe I'd understand this move if there was a docking station available that added other expansion options, but there isn't.</p><p>I do a lot of photography and often shoot gigabytes of raw photos in a single shoot with my dSLR (which uses CF, not SD). Yeah, the sort of work the MacBook Pro is supposed to be aimed at. Besides that, I also do a lot of work with large disk images for the IT work I do.</p><p>Doing such work on my aging MBP is a joy because I have an ExpressCard Serial ATA adapter that lets me use external hard drives without the limitations and overhead of USB, FireWire or ethernet. If I wanted, I could also use the card to connect to an external RAID enclosure at SATA II speeds.</p><p>What good are the performance increases with the CPU, memory, graphics, etc if the only expansion option that provided the quickest data transfer speeds is now gone? Disk i/o will be an even worse bottleneck for me on a new MBP than my old one. No thanks.</p><p>I was looking to upgrade my 2.5 year old MBP with a newer model, but I refuse to do so until Apple brings back an ExpressCard slot or something better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I , too , do n't understand why Apple decided to replace the ExpressCard slot with an SD slot on a supposedly pro-level notebook.The ExpressCard slot provided the only high-speed expansion option on Apple 's notebooks .
Maybe I 'd understand this move if there was a docking station available that added other expansion options , but there is n't.I do a lot of photography and often shoot gigabytes of raw photos in a single shoot with my dSLR ( which uses CF , not SD ) .
Yeah , the sort of work the MacBook Pro is supposed to be aimed at .
Besides that , I also do a lot of work with large disk images for the IT work I do.Doing such work on my aging MBP is a joy because I have an ExpressCard Serial ATA adapter that lets me use external hard drives without the limitations and overhead of USB , FireWire or ethernet .
If I wanted , I could also use the card to connect to an external RAID enclosure at SATA II speeds.What good are the performance increases with the CPU , memory , graphics , etc if the only expansion option that provided the quickest data transfer speeds is now gone ?
Disk i/o will be an even worse bottleneck for me on a new MBP than my old one .
No thanks.I was looking to upgrade my 2.5 year old MBP with a newer model , but I refuse to do so until Apple brings back an ExpressCard slot or something better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, too, don't understand why Apple decided to replace the ExpressCard slot with an SD slot on a supposedly pro-level notebook.The ExpressCard slot provided the only high-speed expansion option on Apple's notebooks.
Maybe I'd understand this move if there was a docking station available that added other expansion options, but there isn't.I do a lot of photography and often shoot gigabytes of raw photos in a single shoot with my dSLR (which uses CF, not SD).
Yeah, the sort of work the MacBook Pro is supposed to be aimed at.
Besides that, I also do a lot of work with large disk images for the IT work I do.Doing such work on my aging MBP is a joy because I have an ExpressCard Serial ATA adapter that lets me use external hard drives without the limitations and overhead of USB, FireWire or ethernet.
If I wanted, I could also use the card to connect to an external RAID enclosure at SATA II speeds.What good are the performance increases with the CPU, memory, graphics, etc if the only expansion option that provided the quickest data transfer speeds is now gone?
Disk i/o will be an even worse bottleneck for me on a new MBP than my old one.
No thanks.I was looking to upgrade my 2.5 year old MBP with a newer model, but I refuse to do so until Apple brings back an ExpressCard slot or something better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259081</id>
	<title>Re:OS X updates</title>
	<author>DJRumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1244467140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Odd that they modded the above post as a troll. It wasn't snarky at all or worded in an inflammatory way. <br> <br>

I would have modded it insightful or at least informative.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Odd that they modded the above post as a troll .
It was n't snarky at all or worded in an inflammatory way .
I would have modded it insightful or at least informative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Odd that they modded the above post as a troll.
It wasn't snarky at all or worded in an inflammatory way.
I would have modded it insightful or at least informative.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255583</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258795</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>an opencl based raytracer wouldnt be too stupid</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>an opencl based raytracer wouldnt be too stupid</tokentext>
<sentencetext>an opencl based raytracer wouldnt be too stupid</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254703</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259689</id>
	<title>Re:Think "development and setup costs"</title>
	<author>SwabTheDeck</author>
	<datestamp>1244470740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone, and I'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model. Therefore, they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size. It's not really about the cost of the memory, it's about the additional R&amp;D and the cost of having a second assembly line.</p></div><p>
I suppose that's one way to look at it.  The other way to look at it is that there's only one assembly line, and some PCBs come off it with a second flash chip soldered on, while others come off with bare contacts and it costs next to nothing to do one over the other beyond the cost of the chip.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone , and I 'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model .
Therefore , they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size .
It 's not really about the cost of the memory , it 's about the additional R&amp;D and the cost of having a second assembly line .
I suppose that 's one way to look at it .
The other way to look at it is that there 's only one assembly line , and some PCBs come off it with a second flash chip soldered on , while others come off with bare contacts and it costs next to nothing to do one over the other beyond the cost of the chip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure it cost apple a considerable amount to develop and have a manufacturing line for the second version of the iPhone, and I'm willing to bet that the vast bulk of iPhones sold will be the 16gb model.
Therefore, they have to amortize the development costs over a smaller market for the larger memory size.
It's not really about the cost of the memory, it's about the additional R&amp;D and the cost of having a second assembly line.
I suppose that's one way to look at it.
The other way to look at it is that there's only one assembly line, and some PCBs come off it with a second flash chip soldered on, while others come off with bare contacts and it costs next to nothing to do one over the other beyond the cost of the chip.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258613</id>
	<title>Re:Good update.</title>
	<author>SashaMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244463900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, the big news to me that seems to be somewhat lost on the slashdot crowd is how Apple is really gunning for the business market that RIM has previously owned. Remote wipe, hardware encryption, and Exchange support in Snow Leopard are HUGE for businesses. I think that lots of businesses (or at least many of the employees of those businesses) would have preferred to use iPhones and Macs in the past, but the lack of those features were deal breakers from the IT department perspective. Now there seems to be much less of a reason for IT depts. to be against Apple products.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the big news to me that seems to be somewhat lost on the slashdot crowd is how Apple is really gunning for the business market that RIM has previously owned .
Remote wipe , hardware encryption , and Exchange support in Snow Leopard are HUGE for businesses .
I think that lots of businesses ( or at least many of the employees of those businesses ) would have preferred to use iPhones and Macs in the past , but the lack of those features were deal breakers from the IT department perspective .
Now there seems to be much less of a reason for IT depts .
to be against Apple products .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the big news to me that seems to be somewhat lost on the slashdot crowd is how Apple is really gunning for the business market that RIM has previously owned.
Remote wipe, hardware encryption, and Exchange support in Snow Leopard are HUGE for businesses.
I think that lots of businesses (or at least many of the employees of those businesses) would have preferred to use iPhones and Macs in the past, but the lack of those features were deal breakers from the IT department perspective.
Now there seems to be much less of a reason for IT depts.
to be against Apple products.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254727</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260981</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244477760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Point 4 misses a little, I think, because a removable battery isn't just useful in the event your battery dies. I carry 2 batteries for my iBook G4 so that I can get twice as much battery time if I don't have access to a plug. You're right about replacing the battery, that doesn't happen real often, but it would be nice to be able to carry more than one battery with you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Point 4 misses a little , I think , because a removable battery is n't just useful in the event your battery dies .
I carry 2 batteries for my iBook G4 so that I can get twice as much battery time if I do n't have access to a plug .
You 're right about replacing the battery , that does n't happen real often , but it would be nice to be able to carry more than one battery with you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Point 4 misses a little, I think, because a removable battery isn't just useful in the event your battery dies.
I carry 2 batteries for my iBook G4 so that I can get twice as much battery time if I don't have access to a plug.
You're right about replacing the battery, that doesn't happen real often, but it would be nice to be able to carry more than one battery with you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256949</id>
	<title>ExpressCard/34</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244456940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it. I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.</i></p><p>While I don't use the slot in my MBP if I find a card that will drive a high resolution, more than 1920 X 1200, monitor I'd think about getting it.  I've been looking for one but the only ones I've found use USB.</p><p><i>How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?</i></p><p>I switch mine every couple of weeks, but perhaps that's because I got two.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>3 ) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it .
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.While I do n't use the slot in my MBP if I find a card that will drive a high resolution , more than 1920 X 1200 , monitor I 'd think about getting it .
I 've been looking for one but the only ones I 've found use USB.How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery ? I switch mine every couple of weeks , but perhaps that 's because I got two .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it.
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.While I don't use the slot in my MBP if I find a card that will drive a high resolution, more than 1920 X 1200, monitor I'd think about getting it.
I've been looking for one but the only ones I've found use USB.How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?I switch mine every couple of weeks, but perhaps that's because I got two.
Falcon</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255387</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255615</id>
	<title>Or you don't care about tethering</title>
	<author>weston</author>
	<datestamp>1244452500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not everybody does.</p><p>It's one of the things that has kept me from buying an iPhone so far, but really, it's a nicety. It was *particularly* nice to be able to tether through an old Nokia 6820 while I was on a four month road trip across the US a few years ago, and under those particular circumstance, convenient tethering might remain enough of a compelling feature by itself to outweigh anything else.</p><p>But the funny thing is... for most of what I use tethering for *now* (quick email checks, occasional directions, priceline purchases on short trips, spur-of-the-moment amazon purchases)... I can and would pretty much use a well-designed smart phone for anyway. In other words, the phones themselves (not the least of which is the iPhone) are getting good enough that they do what most people would likely use a tethered computer for most of the time.</p><p>This isn't to say another device might not be a better fit for you... personally, I'm still weighing the merits of an iPhone vs a Pre vs an E70 for my next phone. Tethering's a factor, but not a dealbreaker, at least unless I start living a completely mobile life again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not everybody does.It 's one of the things that has kept me from buying an iPhone so far , but really , it 's a nicety .
It was * particularly * nice to be able to tether through an old Nokia 6820 while I was on a four month road trip across the US a few years ago , and under those particular circumstance , convenient tethering might remain enough of a compelling feature by itself to outweigh anything else.But the funny thing is... for most of what I use tethering for * now * ( quick email checks , occasional directions , priceline purchases on short trips , spur-of-the-moment amazon purchases ) ... I can and would pretty much use a well-designed smart phone for anyway .
In other words , the phones themselves ( not the least of which is the iPhone ) are getting good enough that they do what most people would likely use a tethered computer for most of the time.This is n't to say another device might not be a better fit for you... personally , I 'm still weighing the merits of an iPhone vs a Pre vs an E70 for my next phone .
Tethering 's a factor , but not a dealbreaker , at least unless I start living a completely mobile life again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not everybody does.It's one of the things that has kept me from buying an iPhone so far, but really, it's a nicety.
It was *particularly* nice to be able to tether through an old Nokia 6820 while I was on a four month road trip across the US a few years ago, and under those particular circumstance, convenient tethering might remain enough of a compelling feature by itself to outweigh anything else.But the funny thing is... for most of what I use tethering for *now* (quick email checks, occasional directions, priceline purchases on short trips, spur-of-the-moment amazon purchases)... I can and would pretty much use a well-designed smart phone for anyway.
In other words, the phones themselves (not the least of which is the iPhone) are getting good enough that they do what most people would likely use a tethered computer for most of the time.This isn't to say another device might not be a better fit for you... personally, I'm still weighing the merits of an iPhone vs a Pre vs an E70 for my next phone.
Tethering's a factor, but not a dealbreaker, at least unless I start living a completely mobile life again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254903</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This whole conference was crap.</p> </div><p>The conference runs a full week, starting now and this was just the entertaining opening peptalk, geared at media as much as the developers in the room.</p><p>They didn't mean to make Windows cry- here, have some tissues. Becoming unpopular can be a mean ride, but in the end it toughens you. Just look at how good Win 7 is turning out after Vista receiving its due share of "you suck".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This whole conference was crap .
The conference runs a full week , starting now and this was just the entertaining opening peptalk , geared at media as much as the developers in the room.They did n't mean to make Windows cry- here , have some tissues .
Becoming unpopular can be a mean ride , but in the end it toughens you .
Just look at how good Win 7 is turning out after Vista receiving its due share of " you suck " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This whole conference was crap.
The conference runs a full week, starting now and this was just the entertaining opening peptalk, geared at media as much as the developers in the room.They didn't mean to make Windows cry- here, have some tissues.
Becoming unpopular can be a mean ride, but in the end it toughens you.
Just look at how good Win 7 is turning out after Vista receiving its due share of "you suck".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255971</id>
	<title>Re:Security on auto-locate feature?</title>
	<author>jandrese</author>
	<datestamp>1244453580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's apparently tied to MobileMe, so as long as you don't share your password it hopefully won't be a problem. <br>
<br>
For real life?  We'll have to see.<br>
<br>
Of course this might be a good time to point out that MobileMe isn't free.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's apparently tied to MobileMe , so as long as you do n't share your password it hopefully wo n't be a problem .
For real life ?
We 'll have to see .
Of course this might be a good time to point out that MobileMe is n't free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's apparently tied to MobileMe, so as long as you don't share your password it hopefully won't be a problem.
For real life?
We'll have to see.
Of course this might be a good time to point out that MobileMe isn't free.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258107</id>
	<title>Re:No video conferencing then?</title>
	<author>camperslo</author>
	<datestamp>1244461320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Only a 3 megapixel camera?</i></p><p>I wonder how many realize that 1080i or 1080p HDTV is only TWO megapixel? (1920*1080)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only a 3 megapixel camera ? I wonder how many realize that 1080i or 1080p HDTV is only TWO megapixel ?
( 1920 * 1080 )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only a 3 megapixel camera?I wonder how many realize that 1080i or 1080p HDTV is only TWO megapixel?
(1920*1080)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255343</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244451660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>it would be different if they said, "in 1 year, there will be this blah blah blah phone for $199" because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price.</p>  </div><p>Yeah, so people like you would hold off on buying a phone for 5 months?  Why would Apple do that to themselves?  They much rather have you buy a phone in Feb and then the newer one a year later.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it would be different if they said , " in 1 year , there will be this blah blah blah phone for $ 199 " because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $ 199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price .
Yeah , so people like you would hold off on buying a phone for 5 months ?
Why would Apple do that to themselves ?
They much rather have you buy a phone in Feb and then the newer one a year later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it would be different if they said, "in 1 year, there will be this blah blah blah phone for $199" because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price.
Yeah, so people like you would hold off on buying a phone for 5 months?
Why would Apple do that to themselves?
They much rather have you buy a phone in Feb and then the newer one a year later.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255431</id>
	<title>Snow Leopard URLs now 404 or redirect</title>
	<author>mzs</author>
	<datestamp>1244451900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a little bit there was a new page:</p><p><a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/" title="apple.com">http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/</a> [apple.com]</p><p>It was pretty light on details and basically had all the same info that was on this PR page that now 404s:</p><p><a href="http://www.apple.com/ca/press/2008\_06/snow\_leopard.html" title="apple.com">http://www.apple.com/ca/press/2008\_06/snow\_leopard.html</a> [apple.com]</p><p>Here is the original that I gleaned from ars:</p><p><a href="http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/102001262931/p/9" title="arstechnica.com">http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/102001262931/p/9</a> [arstechnica.com]</p><p>"SAN FRANCISCO--June 9, 2008--Apple&#174; today previewed Mac OS&#174; X Snow Leopard, which builds on the incredible success of OS X Leopard and is the next major version of the world's most advanced operating system. Rather than focusing primarily on new features, Snow Leopard will enhance the performance of OS X, set a new standard for quality and lay the foundation for future OS X innovation. Snow Leopard is optimized for multi-core processors, taps into the vast computing power of graphic processing units (GPUs), enables breakthrough amounts of RAM and features a new, modern media platform with QuickTime&#174; X. Snow Leopard includes out-of-the-box support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 and is scheduled to ship in about a year.</p><p>"We have delivered more than a thousand new features to OS X in just seven years and Snow Leopard lays the foundation for thousands more," said Bertrand Serlet, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering. "In our continued effort to deliver the best user experience, we hit the pause button on new features to focus on perfecting the world's most advanced operating system."</p><p>Snow Leopard delivers unrivaled support for multi-core processors with a new technology code-named "Grand Central," making it easy for developers to create programs that take full advantage of the power of multi-core Macs. Snow Leopard further extends support for modern hardware with Open Computing Language (OpenCL), which lets any application tap into the vast gigaflops of GPU computing power previously available only to graphics applications. OpenCL is based on the C programming language and has been proposed as an open standard. Furthering OS X's lead in 64-bit technology, Snow Leopard raises the software limit on system memory up to a theoretical 16TB of RAM.</p><p>Using media technology pioneered in OS X iPhone(TM), Snow Leopard introduces QuickTime X, which optimizes support for modern audio and video formats resulting in extremely efficient media playback. Snow Leopard also includes Safari&#174; with the fastest implementation of JavaScript ever, increasing performance by 53 percent, making Web 2.0 applications feel more responsive.*</p><p>For the first time, OS X includes native support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in OS X applications Mail, iCal&#174; and Address Book, making it even easier to integrate Macs into organizations of any size."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a little bit there was a new page : http : //www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/ [ apple.com ] It was pretty light on details and basically had all the same info that was on this PR page that now 404s : http : //www.apple.com/ca/press/2008 \ _06/snow \ _leopard.html [ apple.com ] Here is the original that I gleaned from ars : http : //episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/102001262931/p/9 [ arstechnica.com ] " SAN FRANCISCO--June 9 , 2008--Apple   today previewed Mac OS   X Snow Leopard , which builds on the incredible success of OS X Leopard and is the next major version of the world 's most advanced operating system .
Rather than focusing primarily on new features , Snow Leopard will enhance the performance of OS X , set a new standard for quality and lay the foundation for future OS X innovation .
Snow Leopard is optimized for multi-core processors , taps into the vast computing power of graphic processing units ( GPUs ) , enables breakthrough amounts of RAM and features a new , modern media platform with QuickTime   X. Snow Leopard includes out-of-the-box support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 and is scheduled to ship in about a year .
" We have delivered more than a thousand new features to OS X in just seven years and Snow Leopard lays the foundation for thousands more , " said Bertrand Serlet , Apple 's senior vice president of Software Engineering .
" In our continued effort to deliver the best user experience , we hit the pause button on new features to focus on perfecting the world 's most advanced operating system .
" Snow Leopard delivers unrivaled support for multi-core processors with a new technology code-named " Grand Central , " making it easy for developers to create programs that take full advantage of the power of multi-core Macs .
Snow Leopard further extends support for modern hardware with Open Computing Language ( OpenCL ) , which lets any application tap into the vast gigaflops of GPU computing power previously available only to graphics applications .
OpenCL is based on the C programming language and has been proposed as an open standard .
Furthering OS X 's lead in 64-bit technology , Snow Leopard raises the software limit on system memory up to a theoretical 16TB of RAM.Using media technology pioneered in OS X iPhone ( TM ) , Snow Leopard introduces QuickTime X , which optimizes support for modern audio and video formats resulting in extremely efficient media playback .
Snow Leopard also includes Safari   with the fastest implementation of JavaScript ever , increasing performance by 53 percent , making Web 2.0 applications feel more responsive .
* For the first time , OS X includes native support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in OS X applications Mail , iCal   and Address Book , making it even easier to integrate Macs into organizations of any size .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a little bit there was a new page:http://www.apple.com/macosx/snowleopard/ [apple.com]It was pretty light on details and basically had all the same info that was on this PR page that now 404s:http://www.apple.com/ca/press/2008\_06/snow\_leopard.html [apple.com]Here is the original that I gleaned from ars:http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/102001262931/p/9 [arstechnica.com]"SAN FRANCISCO--June 9, 2008--Apple® today previewed Mac OS® X Snow Leopard, which builds on the incredible success of OS X Leopard and is the next major version of the world's most advanced operating system.
Rather than focusing primarily on new features, Snow Leopard will enhance the performance of OS X, set a new standard for quality and lay the foundation for future OS X innovation.
Snow Leopard is optimized for multi-core processors, taps into the vast computing power of graphic processing units (GPUs), enables breakthrough amounts of RAM and features a new, modern media platform with QuickTime® X. Snow Leopard includes out-of-the-box support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 and is scheduled to ship in about a year.
"We have delivered more than a thousand new features to OS X in just seven years and Snow Leopard lays the foundation for thousands more," said Bertrand Serlet, Apple's senior vice president of Software Engineering.
"In our continued effort to deliver the best user experience, we hit the pause button on new features to focus on perfecting the world's most advanced operating system.
"Snow Leopard delivers unrivaled support for multi-core processors with a new technology code-named "Grand Central," making it easy for developers to create programs that take full advantage of the power of multi-core Macs.
Snow Leopard further extends support for modern hardware with Open Computing Language (OpenCL), which lets any application tap into the vast gigaflops of GPU computing power previously available only to graphics applications.
OpenCL is based on the C programming language and has been proposed as an open standard.
Furthering OS X's lead in 64-bit technology, Snow Leopard raises the software limit on system memory up to a theoretical 16TB of RAM.Using media technology pioneered in OS X iPhone(TM), Snow Leopard introduces QuickTime X, which optimizes support for modern audio and video formats resulting in extremely efficient media playback.
Snow Leopard also includes Safari® with the fastest implementation of JavaScript ever, increasing performance by 53 percent, making Web 2.0 applications feel more responsive.
*For the first time, OS X includes native support for Microsoft Exchange 2007 in OS X applications Mail, iCal® and Address Book, making it even easier to integrate Macs into organizations of any size.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258887</id>
	<title>Re:Think "development and setup costs"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244465820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd assume it works the same way as my digital scope... everything goes out with the same hardware, and the 32 GB models get a software key that enables the extra 16 GB.  Kind of a ripoff but everybody does it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd assume it works the same way as my digital scope... everything goes out with the same hardware , and the 32 GB models get a software key that enables the extra 16 GB .
Kind of a ripoff but everybody does it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd assume it works the same way as my digital scope... everything goes out with the same hardware, and the 32 GB models get a software key that enables the extra 16 GB.
Kind of a ripoff but everybody does it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256333</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Stevecrox</author>
	<datestamp>1244454720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think you minunderstand what "revolutionary" means. A 64bit kernel isn't revolutionary, nor is adding exchange support. These are evolutionary changes. Your buying into Apple hype.<br> <br>
AMD's hypertransport was revolutionary, microwave ovens were revolutionary and not all revolutionary ideas have to be popular (see Office 2007's menu system). Taking a 32bit/64bit hybrid OS and making it purely 64bit is evolutionary.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you minunderstand what " revolutionary " means .
A 64bit kernel is n't revolutionary , nor is adding exchange support .
These are evolutionary changes .
Your buying into Apple hype .
AMD 's hypertransport was revolutionary , microwave ovens were revolutionary and not all revolutionary ideas have to be popular ( see Office 2007 's menu system ) .
Taking a 32bit/64bit hybrid OS and making it purely 64bit is evolutionary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you minunderstand what "revolutionary" means.
A 64bit kernel isn't revolutionary, nor is adding exchange support.
These are evolutionary changes.
Your buying into Apple hype.
AMD's hypertransport was revolutionary, microwave ovens were revolutionary and not all revolutionary ideas have to be popular (see Office 2007's menu system).
Taking a 32bit/64bit hybrid OS and making it purely 64bit is evolutionary.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28266511</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244565840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Historically Apple has cared a lot more about looks than functionality.  The glossy stuff makes the colors come out a bit better - it <i>looks</i> better.  It's just harder to use with the wrong lighting.  If you care about functionality over looks, Apple may not be the best place to look.  Although I'm not sure any windows-based solution would be all that much better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Historically Apple has cared a lot more about looks than functionality .
The glossy stuff makes the colors come out a bit better - it looks better .
It 's just harder to use with the wrong lighting .
If you care about functionality over looks , Apple may not be the best place to look .
Although I 'm not sure any windows-based solution would be all that much better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Historically Apple has cared a lot more about looks than functionality.
The glossy stuff makes the colors come out a bit better - it looks better.
It's just harder to use with the wrong lighting.
If you care about functionality over looks, Apple may not be the best place to look.
Although I'm not sure any windows-based solution would be all that much better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257245</id>
	<title>Re:suckers buying iPhones</title>
	<author>donny77</author>
	<datestamp>1244458020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure if they "removed" the requirement or not.  4 years ago I bought Motorola Razors off e-bay.  Came with European plugs and an adapter.  I plugged my SIM in and it worked great.  AT&amp;T's site listed my old phone and not my Razor as my device, but I didn't care.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure if they " removed " the requirement or not .
4 years ago I bought Motorola Razors off e-bay .
Came with European plugs and an adapter .
I plugged my SIM in and it worked great .
AT&amp;T 's site listed my old phone and not my Razor as my device , but I did n't care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure if they "removed" the requirement or not.
4 years ago I bought Motorola Razors off e-bay.
Came with European plugs and an adapter.
I plugged my SIM in and it worked great.
AT&amp;T's site listed my old phone and not my Razor as my device, but I didn't care.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257387</id>
	<title>Re:Front Camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I wish to be a little girl.</p></div><p>Fixed that for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish to be a little girl.Fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish to be a little girl.Fixed that for you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260413</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Wovel</author>
	<datestamp>1244474760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>3)  You are discussing replacing an $80 device when upgrading a $1500(+++) device, maybe you can find a deal.</p><p>4)  Whole new battery system, hard to say one way or the other.</p><p>8) Apple servers have redundant power supplies.  You clearly do not know what you are talking about:</p><p># Output power: 750W<br># Optional second load-sharing 750W power supply for redundancy</p><p><a href="http://www.apple.com/xserve/specs.html" title="apple.com">http://www.apple.com/xserve/specs.html</a> [apple.com]</p><p>1,7,8)  Who cares....I am sure if they had a valid comparison to make they would...Perhaps all of those companies would do better if they would take the time to contrast themselves with the competition....</p><p><a href="http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/soa/Red-Hat-CEO-Tired-of-Microsoft-s-Linux-whining/0,139023166,120205505,00.htm" title="zdnet.com.au">http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/soa/Red-Hat-CEO-Tired-of-Microsoft-s-Linux-whining/0,139023166,120205505,00.htm</a> [zdnet.com.au]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....."'blue screen of death' does not refer to Linux systems, but rather to the immature Windows products."<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Sounds like a bash...Your google skills suck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>3 ) You are discussing replacing an $ 80 device when upgrading a $ 1500 ( + + + ) device , maybe you can find a deal.4 ) Whole new battery system , hard to say one way or the other.8 ) Apple servers have redundant power supplies .
You clearly do not know what you are talking about : # Output power : 750W # Optional second load-sharing 750W power supply for redundancyhttp : //www.apple.com/xserve/specs.html [ apple.com ] 1,7,8 ) Who cares....I am sure if they had a valid comparison to make they would...Perhaps all of those companies would do better if they would take the time to contrast themselves with the competition....http : //www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/soa/Red-Hat-CEO-Tired-of-Microsoft-s-Linux-whining/0,139023166,120205505,00.htm [ zdnet.com.au ] ..... " 'blue screen of death ' does not refer to Linux systems , but rather to the immature Windows products .
" ...Sounds like a bash...Your google skills suck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>3)  You are discussing replacing an $80 device when upgrading a $1500(+++) device, maybe you can find a deal.4)  Whole new battery system, hard to say one way or the other.8) Apple servers have redundant power supplies.
You clearly do not know what you are talking about:# Output power: 750W# Optional second load-sharing 750W power supply for redundancyhttp://www.apple.com/xserve/specs.html [apple.com]1,7,8)  Who cares....I am sure if they had a valid comparison to make they would...Perhaps all of those companies would do better if they would take the time to contrast themselves with the competition....http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/business/soa/Red-Hat-CEO-Tired-of-Microsoft-s-Linux-whining/0,139023166,120205505,00.htm [zdnet.com.au] ....."'blue screen of death' does not refer to Linux systems, but rather to the immature Windows products.
" ...Sounds like a bash...Your google skills suck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255899</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244453340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ummm!</p><p>North America != United States of America</p><p>In the part of North American that I live in, Canada, iPhone is on the Rogers network and in Mexico it's on the Telcel network.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummm ! North America ! = United States of AmericaIn the part of North American that I live in , Canada , iPhone is on the Rogers network and in Mexico it 's on the Telcel network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummm!North America != United States of AmericaIn the part of North American that I live in, Canada, iPhone is on the Rogers network and in Mexico it's on the Telcel network.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254793</id>
	<title>we missed you steve :(</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish you had blown your hot load all over the cockholsters in the audience.<br>then backstage you'd dump a couple of steamin' hot logs right in my mouth.<br>*sigh*<br>there's always next year.</p><p>- arn, macrumors god</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish you had blown your hot load all over the cockholsters in the audience.then backstage you 'd dump a couple of steamin ' hot logs right in my mouth .
* sigh * there 's always next year.- arn , macrumors god</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish you had blown your hot load all over the cockholsters in the audience.then backstage you'd dump a couple of steamin' hot logs right in my mouth.
*sigh*there's always next year.- arn, macrumors god</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255793</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Eil</author>
	<datestamp>1244453040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.</p></div></blockquote><p>What bugged me the most about these when they came out was that all the laptop makers (especially Apple) hyped it as a cool hip new feature when all they did was remove the anti-glare coating from the manufacturing process.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying , and I 'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.What bugged me the most about these when they came out was that all the laptop makers ( especially Apple ) hyped it as a cool hip new feature when all they did was remove the anti-glare coating from the manufacturing process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.What bugged me the most about these when they came out was that all the laptop makers (especially Apple) hyped it as a cool hip new feature when all they did was remove the anti-glare coating from the manufacturing process.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255179</id>
	<title>Re:$79 Touch</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1244494500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But can you legally buy an iPhone w/o contract (in the US)?  I honestly don't know.  Even in other countries, I believe the iPhones without a contract cost more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But can you legally buy an iPhone w/o contract ( in the US ) ?
I honestly do n't know .
Even in other countries , I believe the iPhones without a contract cost more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But can you legally buy an iPhone w/o contract (in the US)?
I honestly don't know.
Even in other countries, I believe the iPhones without a contract cost more.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254945</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256225</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>Midnight Thunder</author>
	<datestamp>1244454300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name. The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well. You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.</i></p><p>The relationship is: OpenCL is like CUDA, as it achieves the same goals. OpenCL is like OpenGL in that it is an open standard managed by the Khronos group. OpenCL is not a graphics processing language, but it could be used to implement graphics processing languages.</p><p>OpenCL is a new technology, only having been announced at the end of 2008. So far, apart from Apple, only Nvidia is close to releasing OpenCL drivers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenCL is like CUDA , but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL , hence the name .
The same guys who manage OpenGL ( Khronos ) manage OpenCL as well .
You could probably use it to do graphics , but that would be stupid.The relationship is : OpenCL is like CUDA , as it achieves the same goals .
OpenCL is like OpenGL in that it is an open standard managed by the Khronos group .
OpenCL is not a graphics processing language , but it could be used to implement graphics processing languages.OpenCL is a new technology , only having been announced at the end of 2008 .
So far , apart from Apple , only Nvidia is close to releasing OpenCL drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenCL is like CUDA, but supposed to be more open along the lines of OpenGL, hence the name.
The same guys who manage OpenGL (Khronos) manage OpenCL as well.
You could probably use it to do graphics, but that would be stupid.The relationship is: OpenCL is like CUDA, as it achieves the same goals.
OpenCL is like OpenGL in that it is an open standard managed by the Khronos group.
OpenCL is not a graphics processing language, but it could be used to implement graphics processing languages.OpenCL is a new technology, only having been announced at the end of 2008.
So far, apart from Apple, only Nvidia is close to releasing OpenCL drivers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254703</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257767</id>
	<title>Re:no video card updates at all? a $1700 latop wit</title>
	<author>justcauseisjustthat</author>
	<datestamp>1244460060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is that you <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/watchtheads/video/giampaolo/default.aspx" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">Giampaolo</a> [microsoft.com], from the MS ad?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that you Giampaolo [ microsoft.com ] , from the MS ad ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that you Giampaolo [microsoft.com], from the MS ad?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256517</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What was with the Windows-bashing? They didn't even give a reason.</p> </div><p>Because bashing Windows has earned them 3-fold growth over the last two years alone.</p><p>http://cultofmac.com/wwdc-mac-users-triple-in-last-2-years-to-75-mill/11492</p><p>At that rate of growth they could become the second biggest retailer of PCs after HP in a couple of more years. Take that Michael Dell.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What was with the Windows-bashing ?
They did n't even give a reason .
Because bashing Windows has earned them 3-fold growth over the last two years alone.http : //cultofmac.com/wwdc-mac-users-triple-in-last-2-years-to-75-mill/11492At that rate of growth they could become the second biggest retailer of PCs after HP in a couple of more years .
Take that Michael Dell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What was with the Windows-bashing?
They didn't even give a reason.
Because bashing Windows has earned them 3-fold growth over the last two years alone.http://cultofmac.com/wwdc-mac-users-triple-in-last-2-years-to-75-mill/11492At that rate of growth they could become the second biggest retailer of PCs after HP in a couple of more years.
Take that Michael Dell.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257149</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244457660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you sir, smoke crack.  In USA the iPhone is restricted to AT&amp;T<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... We in the great white north (i.e. Canada) are beholden to Rogers (not AT&amp;T) for our iPhone pleasure<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</p><p>now piss off while I suckle the teat<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you sir , smoke crack .
In USA the iPhone is restricted to AT&amp;T ... We in the great white north ( i.e .
Canada ) are beholden to Rogers ( not AT&amp;T ) for our iPhone pleasure ....now piss off while I suckle the teat .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you sir, smoke crack.
In USA the iPhone is restricted to AT&amp;T ... We in the great white north (i.e.
Canada) are beholden to Rogers (not AT&amp;T) for our iPhone pleasure ....now piss off while I suckle the teat ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254831</id>
	<title>Re:Front Camera</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My razr has a vid screen on the back of the phone for self photos and the like.</p><p>Seems easier to just stick a tiny LCD on the back than move the camera around front.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My razr has a vid screen on the back of the phone for self photos and the like.Seems easier to just stick a tiny LCD on the back than move the camera around front .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My razr has a vid screen on the back of the phone for self photos and the like.Seems easier to just stick a tiny LCD on the back than move the camera around front.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254653</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255921</id>
	<title>Progress</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244453400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MMS, Copy&amp;Paste, Video, Tomtom YEAh!<br>Next year it will get a front facing camera!<br>The year after that it will get a VGA screen.<br>Then it will have the same specs as my phone from last year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MMS , Copy&amp;Paste , Video , Tomtom YEAh ! Next year it will get a front facing camera ! The year after that it will get a VGA screen.Then it will have the same specs as my phone from last year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MMS, Copy&amp;Paste, Video, Tomtom YEAh!Next year it will get a front facing camera!The year after that it will get a VGA screen.Then it will have the same specs as my phone from last year.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28263621</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>SimonTheSoundMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244550180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Previous models had 6bit dithered displays.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Previous models had 6bit dithered displays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Previous models had 6bit dithered displays.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255513</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257261</id>
	<title>Re:FTFF</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Whoa. Did they finally FTFF?</p></div><p>They have likely not fixed all the functionality that was lost from the Finder when 10.0 was released. But there is hope that some things have been fixed:</p><ul><li>"Restore deleted items to original folders."</li><li>"More reliable disk eject."</li><li>"Sortable search results."</li></ul><p>All things that were there in System 7.0, that have been missing since 10.0. To have come such a long way to get back to where we were.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoa .
Did they finally FTFF ? They have likely not fixed all the functionality that was lost from the Finder when 10.0 was released .
But there is hope that some things have been fixed : " Restore deleted items to original folders .
" " More reliable disk eject .
" " Sortable search results .
" All things that were there in System 7.0 , that have been missing since 10.0 .
To have come such a long way to get back to where we were .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Whoa.
Did they finally FTFF?They have likely not fixed all the functionality that was lost from the Finder when 10.0 was released.
But there is hope that some things have been fixed:"Restore deleted items to original folders.
""More reliable disk eject.
""Sortable search results.
"All things that were there in System 7.0, that have been missing since 10.0.
To have come such a long way to get back to where we were.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254979</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28302685</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>RazorSharp</author>
	<datestamp>1244726280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"When did Apple ever release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?"</p><p>The Pippin. Okay, it was the nineties, didn't count.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" When did Apple ever release " me too !
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets ?
" The Pippin .
Okay , it was the nineties , did n't count .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"When did Apple ever release "me too!
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?
"The Pippin.
Okay, it was the nineties, didn't count.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255467</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254983</id>
	<title>suckers buying iPhones</title>
	<author>speedtux</author>
	<datestamp>1244493900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AT&amp;T runs a standard GSM/3G network and allows unlocked phones.  There are plenty of phones that support tethering, including all Symbian phones.  If you buy an iPhone with restrictions, that's really your problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AT&amp;T runs a standard GSM/3G network and allows unlocked phones .
There are plenty of phones that support tethering , including all Symbian phones .
If you buy an iPhone with restrictions , that 's really your problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AT&amp;T runs a standard GSM/3G network and allows unlocked phones.
There are plenty of phones that support tethering, including all Symbian phones.
If you buy an iPhone with restrictions, that's really your problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254847</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255513</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1244452140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's nice they have a much greater color gamut.</p><p>But that makes me wonder if these are just real 32-bit panels instead of the 24-bit panels they've been using (which is REALLY CHEAP of them).</p><p>Glossy though? I agree. I don't intend to upgrade my MBP as long as I can hold out, because I don't want that glare.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's nice they have a much greater color gamut.But that makes me wonder if these are just real 32-bit panels instead of the 24-bit panels they 've been using ( which is REALLY CHEAP of them ) .Glossy though ?
I agree .
I do n't intend to upgrade my MBP as long as I can hold out , because I do n't want that glare .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's nice they have a much greater color gamut.But that makes me wonder if these are just real 32-bit panels instead of the 24-bit panels they've been using (which is REALLY CHEAP of them).Glossy though?
I agree.
I don't intend to upgrade my MBP as long as I can hold out, because I don't want that glare.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259441</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244469240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some americans have their head so far up their ass they think they own the whole continent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some americans have their head so far up their ass they think they own the whole continent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some americans have their head so far up their ass they think they own the whole continent.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255135</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259365</id>
	<title>CF is already on the way out for pro gear.</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244468820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.</i></p><p>Canon's <a href="http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&amp;fcategoryid=215&amp;modelid=17662#ModelTechSpecsAct" title="canon.com">EOS 5D Mark II</a> [canon.com], which most certainly is a pro model, uses CF but not SD cards.  Now the <a href="http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&amp;fcategoryid=139&amp;modelid=15710#ModelTechSpecsAct" title="canon.com">EOS-1Ds Mark III</a> [canon.com] uses both as does the <a href="http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&amp;fcategoryid=139&amp;modelid=14999#ModelTechSpecsAct" title="canon.com">EOS-1D Mark III</a> [canon.com].</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Newer DLSR 's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.Canon 's EOS 5D Mark II [ canon.com ] , which most certainly is a pro model , uses CF but not SD cards .
Now the EOS-1Ds Mark III [ canon.com ] uses both as does the EOS-1D Mark III [ canon.com ] .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.Canon's EOS 5D Mark II [canon.com], which most certainly is a pro model, uses CF but not SD cards.
Now the EOS-1Ds Mark III [canon.com] uses both as does the EOS-1D Mark III [canon.com].
Falcon</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255781</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257123</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>TrekkieTechie</author>
	<datestamp>1244457600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Really, welcome to the world of technology as governed by Moore's Law.<br>
<br>
On the other hand...<br>
<br>
However many years ago, I'd saved up for a new 10GB iPod. I ordered it, decided what I wanted to have engraved on the back, and settled in for a week or two of excited waiting. A few days later, Apple announced a refresh of the iPod product line -- which included a 15GB 3rd-gen iPod at the price-point I'd just bought a 10GB. I spent a few minutes kicking myself before realizing that I had no way of knowing, them's the breaks, etc., and resigned myself to enjoying my outdated-before-I-even-received-it iPod.<br>
<br>
The next day, I received an email from Apple letting me know that they were sending me the new 15GB model, not the 10GB I'd ordered.<br>
<br>
I don't know if this was a lucky one-off or if this was their policy at the time, or if it's their policy now, but it did earn Apple a lot of respect in my book.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , welcome to the world of technology as governed by Moore 's Law .
On the other hand.. . However many years ago , I 'd saved up for a new 10GB iPod .
I ordered it , decided what I wanted to have engraved on the back , and settled in for a week or two of excited waiting .
A few days later , Apple announced a refresh of the iPod product line -- which included a 15GB 3rd-gen iPod at the price-point I 'd just bought a 10GB .
I spent a few minutes kicking myself before realizing that I had no way of knowing , them 's the breaks , etc. , and resigned myself to enjoying my outdated-before-I-even-received-it iPod .
The next day , I received an email from Apple letting me know that they were sending me the new 15GB model , not the 10GB I 'd ordered .
I do n't know if this was a lucky one-off or if this was their policy at the time , or if it 's their policy now , but it did earn Apple a lot of respect in my book .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, welcome to the world of technology as governed by Moore's Law.
On the other hand...

However many years ago, I'd saved up for a new 10GB iPod.
I ordered it, decided what I wanted to have engraved on the back, and settled in for a week or two of excited waiting.
A few days later, Apple announced a refresh of the iPod product line -- which included a 15GB 3rd-gen iPod at the price-point I'd just bought a 10GB.
I spent a few minutes kicking myself before realizing that I had no way of knowing, them's the breaks, etc., and resigned myself to enjoying my outdated-before-I-even-received-it iPod.
The next day, I received an email from Apple letting me know that they were sending me the new 15GB model, not the 10GB I'd ordered.
I don't know if this was a lucky one-off or if this was their policy at the time, or if it's their policy now, but it did earn Apple a lot of respect in my book.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259119</id>
	<title>Re:And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this display style has gained popularity recently as they show richer more vibrant colors and depth, and IIRC also aver a wider view angle. Apple has always had a great reputation in the quality of its displays and the color accuracy they provide. many professionals (graphics design, advertisers, marketers, even film producers) turn to apple for this very reason. in light of that it is only natural for apple to use this display type. to my knowledge the tech required to retain that level of quality is too bulky to fit in a laptop. of course this may cause problems for some, but this is why competition is good- there is no one single best and one manufacturer can only offer so much variety in a sustainable business model (General Motors comes to mind...) it sure would be nice if apple would license their OS to other manufacturers.</p><p>of course, i could be talking completely out of my ass....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this display style has gained popularity recently as they show richer more vibrant colors and depth , and IIRC also aver a wider view angle .
Apple has always had a great reputation in the quality of its displays and the color accuracy they provide .
many professionals ( graphics design , advertisers , marketers , even film producers ) turn to apple for this very reason .
in light of that it is only natural for apple to use this display type .
to my knowledge the tech required to retain that level of quality is too bulky to fit in a laptop .
of course this may cause problems for some , but this is why competition is good- there is no one single best and one manufacturer can only offer so much variety in a sustainable business model ( General Motors comes to mind... ) it sure would be nice if apple would license their OS to other manufacturers.of course , i could be talking completely out of my ass... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this display style has gained popularity recently as they show richer more vibrant colors and depth, and IIRC also aver a wider view angle.
Apple has always had a great reputation in the quality of its displays and the color accuracy they provide.
many professionals (graphics design, advertisers, marketers, even film producers) turn to apple for this very reason.
in light of that it is only natural for apple to use this display type.
to my knowledge the tech required to retain that level of quality is too bulky to fit in a laptop.
of course this may cause problems for some, but this is why competition is good- there is no one single best and one manufacturer can only offer so much variety in a sustainable business model (General Motors comes to mind...) it sure would be nice if apple would license their OS to other manufacturers.of course, i could be talking completely out of my ass....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255241</id>
	<title>Re:suckers buying iPhones</title>
	<author>\_Hiro\_</author>
	<datestamp>1244494620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So AT&amp;T has removed the requirement to register your IMEI when you change phones?  That was one of the reasons I left.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So AT&amp;T has removed the requirement to register your IMEI when you change phones ?
That was one of the reasons I left .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So AT&amp;T has removed the requirement to register your IMEI when you change phones?
That was one of the reasons I left.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256849</id>
	<title>Re:No OpenGL ES 2.0</title>
	<author>pwfffff</author>
	<datestamp>1244456520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"There's no OpenGL ES 2.0 support in the iPhone 3GS, which makes me rather <b>disseminated</b>."</p><p>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" There 's no OpenGL ES 2.0 support in the iPhone 3GS , which makes me rather disseminated .
" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There's no OpenGL ES 2.0 support in the iPhone 3GS, which makes me rather disseminated.
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255481</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Mabonus</author>
	<datestamp>1244452080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I found it odd that the fine print just says iPhone 3G upgrades are spendy and I took a look at ATT's upgrade page for my account.  Right now I'm being offered an upgrade to the existing 16G 3G iphone for $299.  It's not cheap, but it's not as expensive as the fine print reads either.  FWIW I've got one of the first gen Edge iphones, so perhaps that clause doesn't apply to me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I found it odd that the fine print just says iPhone 3G upgrades are spendy and I took a look at ATT 's upgrade page for my account .
Right now I 'm being offered an upgrade to the existing 16G 3G iphone for $ 299 .
It 's not cheap , but it 's not as expensive as the fine print reads either .
FWIW I 've got one of the first gen Edge iphones , so perhaps that clause does n't apply to me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found it odd that the fine print just says iPhone 3G upgrades are spendy and I took a look at ATT's upgrade page for my account.
Right now I'm being offered an upgrade to the existing 16G 3G iphone for $299.
It's not cheap, but it's not as expensive as the fine print reads either.
FWIW I've got one of the first gen Edge iphones, so perhaps that clause doesn't apply to me!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254773</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257437</id>
	<title>Re:suckers buying iPhones</title>
	<author>Achromatic1978</author>
	<datestamp>1244458860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I brought a N95 to AT&amp;T and didn't need to do any IMEI registration - though perhaps as a new customer they picked it up on first registration with the network. IMEI is broadcast regularly with most GSM-level network activity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I brought a N95 to AT&amp;T and did n't need to do any IMEI registration - though perhaps as a new customer they picked it up on first registration with the network .
IMEI is broadcast regularly with most GSM-level network activity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I brought a N95 to AT&amp;T and didn't need to do any IMEI registration - though perhaps as a new customer they picked it up on first registration with the network.
IMEI is broadcast regularly with most GSM-level network activity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255241</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256795</id>
	<title>Discounted iPhone upgrade at a higher price (AT&am</title>
	<author>tniermann</author>
	<datestamp>1244456340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a quote from the AT&amp;T site when upgrading from the original IPhone non3G<br>
"As a valued AT&amp;T customer, we can offer you a discounted iPhone upgrade at a higher price, along with a 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee. Please proceed with the online upgrade process for pricing details. You may qualify for a full discount on a standard iPhone upgrade on 07/23/2009

<br>
I then try to select the single line to upgrade and the site tells me only select a single line.
They seem to not want to sell to existing customers till 7/23.</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a quote from the AT&amp;T site when upgrading from the original IPhone non3G " As a valued AT&amp;T customer , we can offer you a discounted iPhone upgrade at a higher price , along with a 2-year commitment and an $ 18 upgrade fee .
Please proceed with the online upgrade process for pricing details .
You may qualify for a full discount on a standard iPhone upgrade on 07/23/2009 I then try to select the single line to upgrade and the site tells me only select a single line .
They seem to not want to sell to existing customers till 7/23 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a quote from the AT&amp;T site when upgrading from the original IPhone non3G
"As a valued AT&amp;T customer, we can offer you a discounted iPhone upgrade at a higher price, along with a 2-year commitment and an $18 upgrade fee.
Please proceed with the online upgrade process for pricing details.
You may qualify for a full discount on a standard iPhone upgrade on 07/23/2009


I then try to select the single line to upgrade and the site tells me only select a single line.
They seem to not want to sell to existing customers till 7/23.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254945</id>
	<title>$79 Touch</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If there's a $99 iPhone, can a $79 iPod Touch be far behind?  All Apple is doing for sure is ensuring that a Touch of similar capacity cannot exceed $99 any longer since an iPhone w/o a contract will otherwise be a better deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there 's a $ 99 iPhone , can a $ 79 iPod Touch be far behind ?
All Apple is doing for sure is ensuring that a Touch of similar capacity can not exceed $ 99 any longer since an iPhone w/o a contract will otherwise be a better deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there's a $99 iPhone, can a $79 iPod Touch be far behind?
All Apple is doing for sure is ensuring that a Touch of similar capacity cannot exceed $99 any longer since an iPhone w/o a contract will otherwise be a better deal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28267185</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>TheoMurpse</author>
	<datestamp>1244567940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It's $30. You're not forced to upgrade.</p></div></blockquote><p>You'll effectively be forced. Small-shop Apple devs (who make very interesting products) have this terrible problem of writing a new piece of software that only runs on the very latest OS X version. I've had Tiger since I bought my MBP over two years ago. In that time, I've had to do without a few programs I really wanted because they only run in Leopard. If I could have afforded it, I would have made the switch. But until a couple weeks ago, I was a poor grad student. Now I'm a poor unemployed until August. In September, I'll finally have a paycheck, and I'm buying Snow Leopard ASAP so I can finally use some of the software I've had to put up with not having.</p><p>Granted, this isn't directly Apple's fault. But I can't help wondering what created this microcosm in which devs write software for only the newest version of the OS when there's no real technical reason. Maybe it's Apple-provided libs and dev tools that only create software that runs on the latest version of the OS? In this case, Apple does strongly encourage an upgrade by making your previous-version OS obsolete.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's $ 30 .
You 're not forced to upgrade.You 'll effectively be forced .
Small-shop Apple devs ( who make very interesting products ) have this terrible problem of writing a new piece of software that only runs on the very latest OS X version .
I 've had Tiger since I bought my MBP over two years ago .
In that time , I 've had to do without a few programs I really wanted because they only run in Leopard .
If I could have afforded it , I would have made the switch .
But until a couple weeks ago , I was a poor grad student .
Now I 'm a poor unemployed until August .
In September , I 'll finally have a paycheck , and I 'm buying Snow Leopard ASAP so I can finally use some of the software I 've had to put up with not having.Granted , this is n't directly Apple 's fault .
But I ca n't help wondering what created this microcosm in which devs write software for only the newest version of the OS when there 's no real technical reason .
Maybe it 's Apple-provided libs and dev tools that only create software that runs on the latest version of the OS ?
In this case , Apple does strongly encourage an upgrade by making your previous-version OS obsolete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's $30.
You're not forced to upgrade.You'll effectively be forced.
Small-shop Apple devs (who make very interesting products) have this terrible problem of writing a new piece of software that only runs on the very latest OS X version.
I've had Tiger since I bought my MBP over two years ago.
In that time, I've had to do without a few programs I really wanted because they only run in Leopard.
If I could have afforded it, I would have made the switch.
But until a couple weeks ago, I was a poor grad student.
Now I'm a poor unemployed until August.
In September, I'll finally have a paycheck, and I'm buying Snow Leopard ASAP so I can finally use some of the software I've had to put up with not having.Granted, this isn't directly Apple's fault.
But I can't help wondering what created this microcosm in which devs write software for only the newest version of the OS when there's no real technical reason.
Maybe it's Apple-provided libs and dev tools that only create software that runs on the latest version of the OS?
In this case, Apple does strongly encourage an upgrade by making your previous-version OS obsolete.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255467</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255275</id>
	<title>Re:$79 Touch</title>
	<author>byjove</author>
	<datestamp>1244494740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...an iPhone w/o a contract will otherwise be a better deal.</p></div><p>A $99 iPhone without a contract is $499 according to the Apple shop. Not really competitive with the Touch, is it?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...an iPhone w/o a contract will otherwise be a better deal.A $ 99 iPhone without a contract is $ 499 according to the Apple shop .
Not really competitive with the Touch , is it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...an iPhone w/o a contract will otherwise be a better deal.A $99 iPhone without a contract is $499 according to the Apple shop.
Not really competitive with the Touch, is it?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254945</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256807</id>
	<title>Once Again we have a company caving...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244456400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tethering is the big thing with the new iPhone software was going to be tethering.  As expected, AT&amp;T won't likely be supporting it, and they should.  I'm appalled at what the cell phone industry is getting away with in our country in limitations and charges.  It'd be nice if for once a company got behind the fact that another corporation is abusing their customers and that is the reason why our products are crippled by the time they get to the consumers' hands.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tethering is the big thing with the new iPhone software was going to be tethering .
As expected , AT&amp;T wo n't likely be supporting it , and they should .
I 'm appalled at what the cell phone industry is getting away with in our country in limitations and charges .
It 'd be nice if for once a company got behind the fact that another corporation is abusing their customers and that is the reason why our products are crippled by the time they get to the consumers ' hands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tethering is the big thing with the new iPhone software was going to be tethering.
As expected, AT&amp;T won't likely be supporting it, and they should.
I'm appalled at what the cell phone industry is getting away with in our country in limitations and charges.
It'd be nice if for once a company got behind the fact that another corporation is abusing their customers and that is the reason why our products are crippled by the time they get to the consumers' hands.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254643</id>
	<title>Macbook pro</title>
	<author>aereinha</author>
	<datestamp>1244492760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gained sd card reader...lost the express card slot.
I want the express card slot back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gained sd card reader...lost the express card slot .
I want the express card slot back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gained sd card reader...lost the express card slot.
I want the express card slot back.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255467</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1244452020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really? The fact they seem to have seriously updated the Finder back end code is good. The faster mail is nice. The full Exchange support is going to be <i>huge</i> for many people.</p><p>It's $30. You're not forced to upgrade. You're not being asked for $400 for Business Ultimate Platinum edition.</p><p>Just because Apple isn't competing in the $200 netbook category doesn't mean they are screwing up. It means they care about the customer experience.</p><p>When did Apple <i>ever</i> release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
The fact they seem to have seriously updated the Finder back end code is good .
The faster mail is nice .
The full Exchange support is going to be huge for many people.It 's $ 30 .
You 're not forced to upgrade .
You 're not being asked for $ 400 for Business Ultimate Platinum edition.Just because Apple is n't competing in the $ 200 netbook category does n't mean they are screwing up .
It means they care about the customer experience.When did Apple ever release " me too !
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
The fact they seem to have seriously updated the Finder back end code is good.
The faster mail is nice.
The full Exchange support is going to be huge for many people.It's $30.
You're not forced to upgrade.
You're not being asked for $400 for Business Ultimate Platinum edition.Just because Apple isn't competing in the $200 netbook category doesn't mean they are screwing up.
It means they care about the customer experience.When did Apple ever release "me too!
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254963</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256915</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>jimicus</author>
	<datestamp>1244456760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of higher level DSLRs are moving towards SD and Apple have always been the kind of company that would support the upcoming standard at the expense of totally ignoring the "legacy"  (even if it's a good few years from being truly legacy).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of higher level DSLRs are moving towards SD and Apple have always been the kind of company that would support the upcoming standard at the expense of totally ignoring the " legacy " ( even if it 's a good few years from being truly legacy ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of higher level DSLRs are moving towards SD and Apple have always been the kind of company that would support the upcoming standard at the expense of totally ignoring the "legacy"  (even if it's a good few years from being truly legacy).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255047</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259191</id>
	<title>Re:Security on auto-locate feature?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It will be as secure as your mobile me password. If you share passwords with your loved one, expect to be pranked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It will be as secure as your mobile me password .
If you share passwords with your loved one , expect to be pranked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will be as secure as your mobile me password.
If you share passwords with your loved one, expect to be pranked.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254725</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258311</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>smallfries</author>
	<datestamp>1244462400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you're not quite right.</p><p>A 64-bit machine implies a 64-bit data-path through the processor as well as the 64-bit address space. The numeric calculations that they are referring to are single-precision floating point values accessed through the SIMD extensions. You get twice the throughput on these in 64-bit mode on both AMD and Intel's processors.</p><p>In general you're right, but there is actually something real behind that particular claim.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you 're not quite right.A 64-bit machine implies a 64-bit data-path through the processor as well as the 64-bit address space .
The numeric calculations that they are referring to are single-precision floating point values accessed through the SIMD extensions .
You get twice the throughput on these in 64-bit mode on both AMD and Intel 's processors.In general you 're right , but there is actually something real behind that particular claim .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you're not quite right.A 64-bit machine implies a 64-bit data-path through the processor as well as the 64-bit address space.
The numeric calculations that they are referring to are single-precision floating point values accessed through the SIMD extensions.
You get twice the throughput on these in 64-bit mode on both AMD and Intel's processors.In general you're right, but there is actually something real behind that particular claim.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254705</id>
	<title>OS X updates</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.</p></div><p>To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29. It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Software updates saw Safari 4 launched , OS X updates including threading changes , Exchange support to mail , calendar , and address book , and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.To be clear , the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 ( Snow Leopard ) which will ship in September and cost $ 29 .
It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29.
It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254847</id>
	<title>The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability, allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem (unfortunately there was no mention of AT&amp;T actually supporting this feature, a wonder there wasn't a riot)</p></div></blockquote><p>
Considering that the iPhone itself is really a small form-factor computer with communication abilities built in, the line has already been so blurred between phone and computer that I can't see how that fact that <i>another computer</i> can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different.  Especially since <b>you, the customer</b> are paying to have the ability to transfer a given number of bits per month.  Why should it even matter -- except to anal companies like AT&amp;T who what to sell you capacity and then prevent you from actually using it -- the eventual destination of those bits?  How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device?<br> <br>
<b>Answer: It isn't!</b>
<br> <br>The same for VoIP.  It's all just bits being sent and received. Now create a business model that acknowledges this axiom.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability , allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem ( unfortunately there was no mention of AT&amp;T actually supporting this feature , a wonder there was n't a riot ) Considering that the iPhone itself is really a small form-factor computer with communication abilities built in , the line has already been so blurred between phone and computer that I ca n't see how that fact that another computer can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different .
Especially since you , the customer are paying to have the ability to transfer a given number of bits per month .
Why should it even matter -- except to anal companies like AT&amp;T who what to sell you capacity and then prevent you from actually using it -- the eventual destination of those bits ?
How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device ?
Answer : It is n't !
The same for VoIP .
It 's all just bits being sent and received .
Now create a business model that acknowledges this axiom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Other new features in 3.0 include the much debated tethering ability, allowing you to use your iPhone as a cellular modem (unfortunately there was no mention of AT&amp;T actually supporting this feature, a wonder there wasn't a riot)
Considering that the iPhone itself is really a small form-factor computer with communication abilities built in, the line has already been so blurred between phone and computer that I can't see how that fact that another computer can also access the Internet through the connection is all that different.
Especially since you, the customer are paying to have the ability to transfer a given number of bits per month.
Why should it even matter -- except to anal companies like AT&amp;T who what to sell you capacity and then prevent you from actually using it -- the eventual destination of those bits?
How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device?
Answer: It isn't!
The same for VoIP.
It's all just bits being sent and received.
Now create a business model that acknowledges this axiom.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255521</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From what I understand, sound studio apps really, really don't need specialized hardware -- CPUs are more than fast enough.</p><p>Photoshop, I'll give you. Flash has sucked for performance for a long time, and I doubt it'll be able to get much out of this that it hasn't out of OpenGL or just sane programming over the last decade.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From what I understand , sound studio apps really , really do n't need specialized hardware -- CPUs are more than fast enough.Photoshop , I 'll give you .
Flash has sucked for performance for a long time , and I doubt it 'll be able to get much out of this that it has n't out of OpenGL or just sane programming over the last decade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From what I understand, sound studio apps really, really don't need specialized hardware -- CPUs are more than fast enough.Photoshop, I'll give you.
Flash has sucked for performance for a long time, and I doubt it'll be able to get much out of this that it hasn't out of OpenGL or just sane programming over the last decade.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255025</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257309</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Achromatic1978</author>
	<datestamp>1244458320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sucks to be an iPhone user. My phone will happily tether to my laptop via USB or BT, at 3G speeds, through AT&amp;T. Hell, it'll even function as an infrastructure mode Wifi hotspot if I so choose and happily NAT multiple connections.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sucks to be an iPhone user .
My phone will happily tether to my laptop via USB or BT , at 3G speeds , through AT&amp;T .
Hell , it 'll even function as an infrastructure mode Wifi hotspot if I so choose and happily NAT multiple connections .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sucks to be an iPhone user.
My phone will happily tether to my laptop via USB or BT, at 3G speeds, through AT&amp;T.
Hell, it'll even function as an infrastructure mode Wifi hotspot if I so choose and happily NAT multiple connections.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254739</id>
	<title>And of course, no non-glossy displays</title>
	<author>mousse-man</author>
	<datestamp>1244493120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display? These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.</p><p>One more guy who's looking for a used MBP on ebay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't Apple produce 15 " or 13 " laptops without that damn glossy display ?
These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying , and I 'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.One more guy who 's looking for a used MBP on ebay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't Apple produce 15" or 13" laptops without that damn glossy display?
These mirrors mounted on laptops get really annoying, and I'm not the only one who thinks that non-glossy displays are superior to their allegedly cheaper glossy displays.One more guy who's looking for a used MBP on ebay.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255701</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1244452800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good enough at the time for you to buy.</p><p>You get the new software with new features for free.</p><p>You signed up for a 2 year contract.</p><p>You were happy at the time. This new product doesn't diminish what you were prevously happy with, indeed it actually enhances it with new features, for free.</p><p>Quit yer bitchin'</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good enough at the time for you to buy.You get the new software with new features for free.You signed up for a 2 year contract.You were happy at the time .
This new product does n't diminish what you were prevously happy with , indeed it actually enhances it with new features , for free.Quit yer bitchin'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good enough at the time for you to buy.You get the new software with new features for free.You signed up for a 2 year contract.You were happy at the time.
This new product doesn't diminish what you were prevously happy with, indeed it actually enhances it with new features, for free.Quit yer bitchin'</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258065</id>
	<title>Re:Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1244461200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've generally been an apple fan for the past few years.  OS X is very simply a much better operating system than anything Microsoft's produced since Win2000 (XP eventually became acceptable with 2 1/2 service packs and Firefox), and Apple's laptops are frankly top-notch.</p><p>However, I've kept a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot machine around for situations when those operating systems are more appropriate to the task at hand.  Windows for gaming, Ubuntu for intense coding sessions or anything scientific.</p><p>I recently installed Windows 7.  Although Microsoft have done their (predictable) fair share of copying from Apple, they actually <i>got it right</i> for a change.  The new taskbar plays off of the strengths of Apple's dock, and the 'classic' Win95-style taskbar.</p><p>It runs well on old hardware, which for me is a huge indicator of the quality of an operating system.  The fancy graphical effects don't seem to drain on the CPU too much, and degrade gracefully if your graphics card isn't up to the task.  I tried it a few nights ago on an old 1.6GHz Celron machine I had lying around, and was pleasantly surprised to find that it was perfectly usable on that machine.</p><p>There are also a few other cool bits of technology snuck in, including <a href="http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=95766860669&amp;h=eYU06&amp;u=-5S53&amp;ref=mf" title="facebook.com">wireless virtualization</a> [facebook.com].</p><p>Apple <i>do</i> have a worthy competitor with Win7.  Hopefully Snow Leopard will be a big step up from Leopard, which I've been increasingly frustrated with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've generally been an apple fan for the past few years .
OS X is very simply a much better operating system than anything Microsoft 's produced since Win2000 ( XP eventually became acceptable with 2 1/2 service packs and Firefox ) , and Apple 's laptops are frankly top-notch.However , I 've kept a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot machine around for situations when those operating systems are more appropriate to the task at hand .
Windows for gaming , Ubuntu for intense coding sessions or anything scientific.I recently installed Windows 7 .
Although Microsoft have done their ( predictable ) fair share of copying from Apple , they actually got it right for a change .
The new taskbar plays off of the strengths of Apple 's dock , and the 'classic ' Win95-style taskbar.It runs well on old hardware , which for me is a huge indicator of the quality of an operating system .
The fancy graphical effects do n't seem to drain on the CPU too much , and degrade gracefully if your graphics card is n't up to the task .
I tried it a few nights ago on an old 1.6GHz Celron machine I had lying around , and was pleasantly surprised to find that it was perfectly usable on that machine.There are also a few other cool bits of technology snuck in , including wireless virtualization [ facebook.com ] .Apple do have a worthy competitor with Win7 .
Hopefully Snow Leopard will be a big step up from Leopard , which I 've been increasingly frustrated with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've generally been an apple fan for the past few years.
OS X is very simply a much better operating system than anything Microsoft's produced since Win2000 (XP eventually became acceptable with 2 1/2 service packs and Firefox), and Apple's laptops are frankly top-notch.However, I've kept a Windows/Ubuntu dual boot machine around for situations when those operating systems are more appropriate to the task at hand.
Windows for gaming, Ubuntu for intense coding sessions or anything scientific.I recently installed Windows 7.
Although Microsoft have done their (predictable) fair share of copying from Apple, they actually got it right for a change.
The new taskbar plays off of the strengths of Apple's dock, and the 'classic' Win95-style taskbar.It runs well on old hardware, which for me is a huge indicator of the quality of an operating system.
The fancy graphical effects don't seem to drain on the CPU too much, and degrade gracefully if your graphics card isn't up to the task.
I tried it a few nights ago on an old 1.6GHz Celron machine I had lying around, and was pleasantly surprised to find that it was perfectly usable on that machine.There are also a few other cool bits of technology snuck in, including wireless virtualization [facebook.com].Apple do have a worthy competitor with Win7.
Hopefully Snow Leopard will be a big step up from Leopard, which I've been increasingly frustrated with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259151</id>
	<title>Re:yeh, too bad...</title>
	<author>jonwil</author>
	<datestamp>1244467560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A number of people who are beta testing 3.0 (officially or unofficially) who were able to convince AT&amp;T to turn on MMS (before AT&amp;T and/or apple put a stop to it) and it worked perfectly fine. So the only excuse is that AT&amp;T hasn't figured out how much they should charge iPhone customers for MMS.</p><p>Or maybe AT&amp;T bought the el-cheapo option when they installed their MMS kit and it cant handle all those new iPhones suddenly sending all those MMSs...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A number of people who are beta testing 3.0 ( officially or unofficially ) who were able to convince AT&amp;T to turn on MMS ( before AT&amp;T and/or apple put a stop to it ) and it worked perfectly fine .
So the only excuse is that AT&amp;T has n't figured out how much they should charge iPhone customers for MMS.Or maybe AT&amp;T bought the el-cheapo option when they installed their MMS kit and it cant handle all those new iPhones suddenly sending all those MMSs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A number of people who are beta testing 3.0 (officially or unofficially) who were able to convince AT&amp;T to turn on MMS (before AT&amp;T and/or apple put a stop to it) and it worked perfectly fine.
So the only excuse is that AT&amp;T hasn't figured out how much they should charge iPhone customers for MMS.Or maybe AT&amp;T bought the el-cheapo option when they installed their MMS kit and it cant handle all those new iPhones suddenly sending all those MMSs...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255393</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255005</id>
	<title>Control</title>
	<author>hax0r\_this</author>
	<datestamp>1244493960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because they can't control how you use a tethered computer. Try torrenting something on an un-jailbroken iPhone, then tell me how much it is like "another computer".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because they ca n't control how you use a tethered computer .
Try torrenting something on an un-jailbroken iPhone , then tell me how much it is like " another computer " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because they can't control how you use a tethered computer.
Try torrenting something on an un-jailbroken iPhone, then tell me how much it is like "another computer".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254847</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28275485</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>chthonicdaemon</author>
	<datestamp>1244570520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can vouch for the fact that begin able to do 64 bit IEEE double precision math natively (instead of having to restate all your double  precision work as single precision) translates to roughly 2x speedup* on my programs (which are CPU limited).  It depends what you are doing, but for my work 64 bit is definitely twice as fast as 32 bit.  If your work is memory or disk limited, going to 64 bit won't do much at all.
<br> <br>
* On a 32 bit system, changing all your doubles to singles and doing the same calcs with less precision is about twice as fast.  On a 64 bit system, it makes no difference, as the FPU is using 64 bits anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can vouch for the fact that begin able to do 64 bit IEEE double precision math natively ( instead of having to restate all your double precision work as single precision ) translates to roughly 2x speedup * on my programs ( which are CPU limited ) .
It depends what you are doing , but for my work 64 bit is definitely twice as fast as 32 bit .
If your work is memory or disk limited , going to 64 bit wo n't do much at all .
* On a 32 bit system , changing all your doubles to singles and doing the same calcs with less precision is about twice as fast .
On a 64 bit system , it makes no difference , as the FPU is using 64 bits anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can vouch for the fact that begin able to do 64 bit IEEE double precision math natively (instead of having to restate all your double  precision work as single precision) translates to roughly 2x speedup* on my programs (which are CPU limited).
It depends what you are doing, but for my work 64 bit is definitely twice as fast as 32 bit.
If your work is memory or disk limited, going to 64 bit won't do much at all.
* On a 32 bit system, changing all your doubles to singles and doing the same calcs with less precision is about twice as fast.
On a 64 bit system, it makes no difference, as the FPU is using 64 bits anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255147</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>fx1718</author>
	<datestamp>1244494440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm easily willing to pay $199 for the new one (i got my 3g 3 months ago) because I'm sure I'll be able to sell my 3g.  The real question is will AT&amp;T sell you one for $199 if you are only a few months into your contract or will you have to pay like $400.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm easily willing to pay $ 199 for the new one ( i got my 3g 3 months ago ) because I 'm sure I 'll be able to sell my 3g .
The real question is will AT&amp;T sell you one for $ 199 if you are only a few months into your contract or will you have to pay like $ 400 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm easily willing to pay $199 for the new one (i got my 3g 3 months ago) because I'm sure I'll be able to sell my 3g.
The real question is will AT&amp;T sell you one for $199 if you are only a few months into your contract or will you have to pay like $400.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256275</id>
	<title>Re:$100 for 16GB?!</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1244454480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nope. The 8GB version is only a 3G, <b>not a GS</b>. That means it has the old camera, no compass, etc.</p><p>Pretty good deal actually.</p><p>I wonder if they'll kill the $100 version when they run out of stock, or keep it for the market share.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nope .
The 8GB version is only a 3G , not a GS .
That means it has the old camera , no compass , etc.Pretty good deal actually.I wonder if they 'll kill the $ 100 version when they run out of stock , or keep it for the market share .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nope.
The 8GB version is only a 3G, not a GS.
That means it has the old camera, no compass, etc.Pretty good deal actually.I wonder if they'll kill the $100 version when they run out of stock, or keep it for the market share.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255083</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256661</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, Apple made several netbooks back in the '90s, such as the PowerBook Duo and the eMate, and nobody bought them. In the Mac hardware and software market, stripped-down versions of existing products typically don't sell. It's a totally different environment than the Windows market in that way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , Apple made several netbooks back in the '90s , such as the PowerBook Duo and the eMate , and nobody bought them .
In the Mac hardware and software market , stripped-down versions of existing products typically do n't sell .
It 's a totally different environment than the Windows market in that way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, Apple made several netbooks back in the '90s, such as the PowerBook Duo and the eMate, and nobody bought them.
In the Mac hardware and software market, stripped-down versions of existing products typically don't sell.
It's a totally different environment than the Windows market in that way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255491</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260823</id>
	<title>Re:PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook.</title>
	<author>singularity</author>
	<datestamp>1244476800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The very last PowerBooks were sold October 2005 - January 2006. Not only that, but Apple <a href="http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html" title="apple.com">announced the transition on 6 June 2005</a> [apple.com], or almost exactly four years ago.</p><p>If your PowerBook just expired its three year AppleCare, you must have bought your PowerBook *just* before the release of the MacBook Pros, and most certainly after Apple announced the transition.</p><p>Four years is a very long time for notebook computers. Apple gave you four years of full support after announcing they were planning on EOL PowerPC machines.</p><p>As far as security patches go, Apple continues to release updates and security patches for the previous generation OS. For example, with the release of Snow Leopard, support will cease for Tiger (OS X 10.4). Apple just last month <a href="http://support.apple.com/downloads/Security\_Update\_2009\_002\_\_Tiger\_PPC\_" title="apple.com">released a security patch for Tiger (PPC)</a> [apple.com]. In addition, I believe all of the updates released recently for the various iLife products run on Tiger/PPC.</p><p>This means you should expect continued patches for your Leopard/PPC machine for at least the lifespan of Snow Leopard.</p><p>What confuses me most about your comment is your mention of a classroom of machines running MacOS 8. This proves that Apple software (and hardware) continues to be useful long after it has been EOL'd, but somehow your PowerBook will cease to be useful the minute Snow Leopard is released and is unavailable on your PowerBook?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The very last PowerBooks were sold October 2005 - January 2006 .
Not only that , but Apple announced the transition on 6 June 2005 [ apple.com ] , or almost exactly four years ago.If your PowerBook just expired its three year AppleCare , you must have bought your PowerBook * just * before the release of the MacBook Pros , and most certainly after Apple announced the transition.Four years is a very long time for notebook computers .
Apple gave you four years of full support after announcing they were planning on EOL PowerPC machines.As far as security patches go , Apple continues to release updates and security patches for the previous generation OS .
For example , with the release of Snow Leopard , support will cease for Tiger ( OS X 10.4 ) .
Apple just last month released a security patch for Tiger ( PPC ) [ apple.com ] .
In addition , I believe all of the updates released recently for the various iLife products run on Tiger/PPC.This means you should expect continued patches for your Leopard/PPC machine for at least the lifespan of Snow Leopard.What confuses me most about your comment is your mention of a classroom of machines running MacOS 8 .
This proves that Apple software ( and hardware ) continues to be useful long after it has been EOL 'd , but somehow your PowerBook will cease to be useful the minute Snow Leopard is released and is unavailable on your PowerBook ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The very last PowerBooks were sold October 2005 - January 2006.
Not only that, but Apple announced the transition on 6 June 2005 [apple.com], or almost exactly four years ago.If your PowerBook just expired its three year AppleCare, you must have bought your PowerBook *just* before the release of the MacBook Pros, and most certainly after Apple announced the transition.Four years is a very long time for notebook computers.
Apple gave you four years of full support after announcing they were planning on EOL PowerPC machines.As far as security patches go, Apple continues to release updates and security patches for the previous generation OS.
For example, with the release of Snow Leopard, support will cease for Tiger (OS X 10.4).
Apple just last month released a security patch for Tiger (PPC) [apple.com].
In addition, I believe all of the updates released recently for the various iLife products run on Tiger/PPC.This means you should expect continued patches for your Leopard/PPC machine for at least the lifespan of Snow Leopard.What confuses me most about your comment is your mention of a classroom of machines running MacOS 8.
This proves that Apple software (and hardware) continues to be useful long after it has been EOL'd, but somehow your PowerBook will cease to be useful the minute Snow Leopard is released and is unavailable on your PowerBook?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260173</id>
	<title>Re:Security on auto-locate feature?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244473740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How long until someone hacks MobileMe an starts mass wiping people's iPhones...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How long until someone hacks MobileMe an starts mass wiping people 's iPhones... ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How long until someone hacks MobileMe an starts mass wiping people's iPhones... ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254979</id>
	<title>FTFF</title>
	<author>je ne sais quoi</author>
	<datestamp>1244493840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From <a href="http://www.macrumorslive.com/" title="macrumorslive.com">here</a> [macrumorslive.com]:<blockquote><div><p>10:21 am	Rewrote Finder in Cocoa, which results in lots of extra features.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Whoa.  Did they finally <a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=fix+the+fucking+finder&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8" title="google.com">FTFF</a> [google.com]?  Wow, cool, I hope Apple posts a video of the keynote or the changes in the finder on their site.  For those who don't use OS X, having the Finder rewritten in Cocoa is potentially huge because it gives them a chance to address a number of long-standing issues as well take advantage of a lot of cocoa built-in stuff, but it also may also give the user a lot of customizability because the interface becomes customizable.  E.g., I've edited safari to remove the brushed metal look, I've added shortcuts to some menu options, and removed others all together, etc.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From here [ macrumorslive.com ] : 10 : 21 am Rewrote Finder in Cocoa , which results in lots of extra features .
Whoa. Did they finally FTFF [ google.com ] ?
Wow , cool , I hope Apple posts a video of the keynote or the changes in the finder on their site .
For those who do n't use OS X , having the Finder rewritten in Cocoa is potentially huge because it gives them a chance to address a number of long-standing issues as well take advantage of a lot of cocoa built-in stuff , but it also may also give the user a lot of customizability because the interface becomes customizable .
E.g. , I 've edited safari to remove the brushed metal look , I 've added shortcuts to some menu options , and removed others all together , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From here [macrumorslive.com]:10:21 am	Rewrote Finder in Cocoa, which results in lots of extra features.
Whoa.  Did they finally FTFF [google.com]?
Wow, cool, I hope Apple posts a video of the keynote or the changes in the finder on their site.
For those who don't use OS X, having the Finder rewritten in Cocoa is potentially huge because it gives them a chance to address a number of long-standing issues as well take advantage of a lot of cocoa built-in stuff, but it also may also give the user a lot of customizability because the interface becomes customizable.
E.g., I've edited safari to remove the brushed metal look, I've added shortcuts to some menu options, and removed others all together, etc.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259185</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1244467860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I never really understood how they withhold these deals from existing customers, even when their contracts are up.  I remember back when they were Cingular, they were offering a fancy high-end phone for free when you sign up, but even though I hadn't been under contract for over a year, they wouldn't offer me the same deal.  Instead, I had to switch to T-Mobile, because they were offering a different high-end phone for free for new customers, and then a year later I switched back to AT&amp;T to get a different high-end free phone.
</p><p>Doesn't customer loyalty get you anything?  Don't they want to keep my business?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I never really understood how they withhold these deals from existing customers , even when their contracts are up .
I remember back when they were Cingular , they were offering a fancy high-end phone for free when you sign up , but even though I had n't been under contract for over a year , they would n't offer me the same deal .
Instead , I had to switch to T-Mobile , because they were offering a different high-end phone for free for new customers , and then a year later I switched back to AT&amp;T to get a different high-end free phone .
Does n't customer loyalty get you anything ?
Do n't they want to keep my business ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never really understood how they withhold these deals from existing customers, even when their contracts are up.
I remember back when they were Cingular, they were offering a fancy high-end phone for free when you sign up, but even though I hadn't been under contract for over a year, they wouldn't offer me the same deal.
Instead, I had to switch to T-Mobile, because they were offering a different high-end phone for free for new customers, and then a year later I switched back to AT&amp;T to get a different high-end free phone.
Doesn't customer loyalty get you anything?
Don't they want to keep my business?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255559</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>MightyYar</author>
	<datestamp>1244452320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space.</p></div><p>I'm pretty sure that they are "blowing it" on purpose... the margins are very low in that space. This is the same reason that they don't offer a cheap tower. Maybe I'm wrong and they'll have a "iPhone plus keyboard" at some point... but I really don't think that they want to sell a $300 computer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the " netbook " space.I 'm pretty sure that they are " blowing it " on purpose... the margins are very low in that space .
This is the same reason that they do n't offer a cheap tower .
Maybe I 'm wrong and they 'll have a " iPhone plus keyboard " at some point... but I really do n't think that they want to sell a $ 300 computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space.I'm pretty sure that they are "blowing it" on purpose... the margins are very low in that space.
This is the same reason that they don't offer a cheap tower.
Maybe I'm wrong and they'll have a "iPhone plus keyboard" at some point... but I really don't think that they want to sell a $300 computer.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262099</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244488500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can use the new snow leopard 64-bit dictionary and see if the definition of "sycophant" still fits as well. I'll bet it does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can use the new snow leopard 64-bit dictionary and see if the definition of " sycophant " still fits as well .
I 'll bet it does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can use the new snow leopard 64-bit dictionary and see if the definition of "sycophant" still fits as well.
I'll bet it does.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255235</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1244494620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're seriously complaining that the tech toy you bought went down in price and was replaced by a newer, better model? Have you never bought a computer before? Some might think I'm being a troll, but seriously, this is nothing new to tech products across the board - tech toy is released, sells, goes down in price and is replaced by better model, rinse and repeat until the model is phased out. Nothing new.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're seriously complaining that the tech toy you bought went down in price and was replaced by a newer , better model ?
Have you never bought a computer before ?
Some might think I 'm being a troll , but seriously , this is nothing new to tech products across the board - tech toy is released , sells , goes down in price and is replaced by better model , rinse and repeat until the model is phased out .
Nothing new .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're seriously complaining that the tech toy you bought went down in price and was replaced by a newer, better model?
Have you never bought a computer before?
Some might think I'm being a troll, but seriously, this is nothing new to tech products across the board - tech toy is released, sells, goes down in price and is replaced by better model, rinse and repeat until the model is phased out.
Nothing new.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28264757</id>
	<title>Re:Macbook pro</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244558340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>17" Pro keeps the Express Card slot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>17 " Pro keeps the Express Card slot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>17" Pro keeps the Express Card slot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256527</id>
	<title>Apple</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244455380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I love Apple, but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for.</i></p><p>Though I had the Leopard disk I waited almost a year and a half before upgrading to it from Tiger.  And the only reason I did was because I wanted to install Java 6, whereas Leopard supports it Tiger doesn't.</p><p><i>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space. I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net.</i></p><p>I agree but Apple dropped the price of the 13" MacBook to $1000.  They also upgraded one 13" model to MacBook Pro status and are selling it for $1200.  It surprised me when Apple dropped $300 from the 17" MacBook Pro price.</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love Apple , but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for.Though I had the Leopard disk I waited almost a year and a half before upgrading to it from Tiger .
And the only reason I did was because I wanted to install Java 6 , whereas Leopard supports it Tiger does n't.The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the " netbook " space .
I will not spend over $ 1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net.I agree but Apple dropped the price of the 13 " MacBook to $ 1000 .
They also upgraded one 13 " model to MacBook Pro status and are selling it for $ 1200 .
It surprised me when Apple dropped $ 300 from the 17 " MacBook Pro price .
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love Apple, but must agree that the new OS X update really does not have any new incredible features I am dying for.Though I had the Leopard disk I waited almost a year and a half before upgrading to it from Tiger.
And the only reason I did was because I wanted to install Java 6, whereas Leopard supports it Tiger doesn't.The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space.
I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net.I agree but Apple dropped the price of the 13" MacBook to $1000.
They also upgraded one 13" model to MacBook Pro status and are selling it for $1200.
It surprised me when Apple dropped $300 from the 17" MacBook Pro price.
Falcon</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255475</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1244452080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space. I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net. In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that, and at $500 is much easier on the wallet. No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS, unlike bloated Windows (reason why netbooks run XP), which I just do not get. Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space. I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system, that I prefer not to carry. The iPhone can do some basic stuff on the road, but the screen is just not big enough for "surfing" the web, and handling documents etc...</p></div><p>Based on my experience with the Mini 9 and Windows 7 RC compared to the same machine with Ubuntu and XP, I think it's going to take a lot to beat MS in terms of performance on a netbook any time soon.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the " netbook " space .
I will not spend over $ 1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net .
In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that , and at $ 500 is much easier on the wallet .
No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS , unlike bloated Windows ( reason why netbooks run XP ) , which I just do not get .
Just do not fully understand Apple 's poo-pooing the netbook space .
I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system , that I prefer not to carry .
The iPhone can do some basic stuff on the road , but the screen is just not big enough for " surfing " the web , and handling documents etc...Based on my experience with the Mini 9 and Windows 7 RC compared to the same machine with Ubuntu and XP , I think it 's going to take a lot to beat MS in terms of performance on a netbook any time soon .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The place I think Apple is still blowing it is in the "netbook" space.
I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net.
In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that, and at $500 is much easier on the wallet.
No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS, unlike bloated Windows (reason why netbooks run XP), which I just do not get.
Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space.
I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system, that I prefer not to carry.
The iPhone can do some basic stuff on the road, but the screen is just not big enough for "surfing" the web, and handling documents etc...Based on my experience with the Mini 9 and Windows 7 RC compared to the same machine with Ubuntu and XP, I think it's going to take a lot to beat MS in terms of performance on a netbook any time soon.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258309</id>
	<title>Re:Depends on how you define "success"</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1244462340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll undo my mods for this.  The fact that they <b> <i>DOUBLED</i> </b> the processing power (and in turn actually using the phone is nicer because apps load faster, respond faster, etc) is not a "minor tweak".  That's a pretty damn big improvement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll undo my mods for this .
The fact that they DOUBLED the processing power ( and in turn actually using the phone is nicer because apps load faster , respond faster , etc ) is not a " minor tweak " .
That 's a pretty damn big improvement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll undo my mods for this.
The fact that they  DOUBLED  the processing power (and in turn actually using the phone is nicer because apps load faster, respond faster, etc) is not a "minor tweak".
That's a pretty damn big improvement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257355</id>
	<title>Re:Shouldn't that then be Gay Sex...?</title>
	<author>Hognoxious</author>
	<datestamp>1244458560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assumed the junk being squeezed belonged to the Apple execs.  However I was puzzled as to whether each was squeezing his own on an individual basis, or they were all mutually squeezing each other's.</p><p>Then it all became clear; I remembered it was Apple.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assumed the junk being squeezed belonged to the Apple execs .
However I was puzzled as to whether each was squeezing his own on an individual basis , or they were all mutually squeezing each other 's.Then it all became clear ; I remembered it was Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assumed the junk being squeezed belonged to the Apple execs.
However I was puzzled as to whether each was squeezing his own on an individual basis, or they were all mutually squeezing each other's.Then it all became clear; I remembered it was Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257247</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Kryis</author>
	<datestamp>1244458020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"We would like to announce that in 3 months time we will be charging half the price you are currently paying. We are telling you this now because we don't need any sales over the next 3 months while everyone holds off for a $100 saving."
<br> <br>
Why do you think they announce the product 10 days before it is going to be released? It doesn't give consumers the option of waiting 3 months to pay $100 less. (Assuming that most people don't have a clue about WWDC and wont put the purchase off just in case)</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We would like to announce that in 3 months time we will be charging half the price you are currently paying .
We are telling you this now because we do n't need any sales over the next 3 months while everyone holds off for a $ 100 saving .
" Why do you think they announce the product 10 days before it is going to be released ?
It does n't give consumers the option of waiting 3 months to pay $ 100 less .
( Assuming that most people do n't have a clue about WWDC and wont put the purchase off just in case )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We would like to announce that in 3 months time we will be charging half the price you are currently paying.
We are telling you this now because we don't need any sales over the next 3 months while everyone holds off for a $100 saving.
"
 
Why do you think they announce the product 10 days before it is going to be released?
It doesn't give consumers the option of waiting 3 months to pay $100 less.
(Assuming that most people don't have a clue about WWDC and wont put the purchase off just in case)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257167</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244457780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>0) Tech products get faster, better, cheaper over time. Where have you been the last few decades.<br>1) Apple has released a new iPhone every summer for 3 years now.<br>2) Apple has released new iPods every year since 2001.<br>3) There is no way Apple will give a 6 month grace period to people who purchased iPhone 3G. The product has only been on the market for ~1 year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>0 ) Tech products get faster , better , cheaper over time .
Where have you been the last few decades.1 ) Apple has released a new iPhone every summer for 3 years now.2 ) Apple has released new iPods every year since 2001.3 ) There is no way Apple will give a 6 month grace period to people who purchased iPhone 3G .
The product has only been on the market for ~ 1 year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>0) Tech products get faster, better, cheaper over time.
Where have you been the last few decades.1) Apple has released a new iPhone every summer for 3 years now.2) Apple has released new iPods every year since 2001.3) There is no way Apple will give a 6 month grace period to people who purchased iPhone 3G.
The product has only been on the market for ~1 year.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257191</id>
	<title>Re:Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>clf8</author>
	<datestamp>1244457900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one remembers "Redmond, fire up your copiers" ???</p><p>Yes, since Apple has had a resurgence they have been cocky.  But hey, they make some pretty decent hardware, that works extremely well with their software and other accessory products.  Microsoft's done the same.</p><p>Is it 'appropriate'?  Tough call, I think a lot of old school Apple die hards still feel like the underdog and so they enjoy bragging a bit.  And Wall Street loves its brash, obnoxious characters in general.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one remembers " Redmond , fire up your copiers " ? ?
? Yes , since Apple has had a resurgence they have been cocky .
But hey , they make some pretty decent hardware , that works extremely well with their software and other accessory products .
Microsoft 's done the same.Is it 'appropriate ' ?
Tough call , I think a lot of old school Apple die hards still feel like the underdog and so they enjoy bragging a bit .
And Wall Street loves its brash , obnoxious characters in general .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one remembers "Redmond, fire up your copiers" ??
?Yes, since Apple has had a resurgence they have been cocky.
But hey, they make some pretty decent hardware, that works extremely well with their software and other accessory products.
Microsoft's done the same.Is it 'appropriate'?
Tough call, I think a lot of old school Apple die hards still feel like the underdog and so they enjoy bragging a bit.
And Wall Street loves its brash, obnoxious characters in general.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256161</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>mcwop</author>
	<datestamp>1244454120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Story on the margin thing:

Apple can make money on $599 netbook, says analyst:
<a href="http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;taxonomyName=macintosh\_os&amp;articleId=9128439&amp;taxonomyId=123&amp;intsrc=kc\_top" title="computerworld.com">http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;taxonomyName=macintosh\_os&amp;articleId=9128439&amp;taxonomyId=123&amp;intsrc=kc\_top</a> [computerworld.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Story on the margin thing : Apple can make money on $ 599 netbook , says analyst : http : //www.computerworld.com/action/article.do ? command = viewArticleBasic&amp;taxonomyName = macintosh \ _os&amp;articleId = 9128439&amp;taxonomyId = 123&amp;intsrc = kc \ _top [ computerworld.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Story on the margin thing:

Apple can make money on $599 netbook, says analyst:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&amp;taxonomyName=macintosh\_os&amp;articleId=9128439&amp;taxonomyId=123&amp;intsrc=kc\_top [computerworld.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257389</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>WiiVault</author>
	<datestamp>1244458680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good lord this is a massive fail. Where do I start? First off Apple owes you nothing because they chose to upgrade their HW. On top of that you chose not to stay informed about the iPhone annual product cycle. This also applies to the "missing" features. Those were clearly documented when you bought your phone. Again not Apple's fault. Now you want Apple to give you a discount if you bought one within 6 months of a new model? Do you think LG, RIM, or Palm would do that, or anybody? Heck most companies would already have an update or two in that time. Listen I know the feeling of buying something just to have a better one come out a bit later. Thats life, you had a lot of ways you could have learned more and decided to delay your purchase but you didn't. Also have had your phone for quite a long time. I would have far more sympathy if you had bought it in the last month or 2. You've had yours for almost half the product cycle.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good lord this is a massive fail .
Where do I start ?
First off Apple owes you nothing because they chose to upgrade their HW .
On top of that you chose not to stay informed about the iPhone annual product cycle .
This also applies to the " missing " features .
Those were clearly documented when you bought your phone .
Again not Apple 's fault .
Now you want Apple to give you a discount if you bought one within 6 months of a new model ?
Do you think LG , RIM , or Palm would do that , or anybody ?
Heck most companies would already have an update or two in that time .
Listen I know the feeling of buying something just to have a better one come out a bit later .
Thats life , you had a lot of ways you could have learned more and decided to delay your purchase but you did n't .
Also have had your phone for quite a long time .
I would have far more sympathy if you had bought it in the last month or 2 .
You 've had yours for almost half the product cycle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good lord this is a massive fail.
Where do I start?
First off Apple owes you nothing because they chose to upgrade their HW.
On top of that you chose not to stay informed about the iPhone annual product cycle.
This also applies to the "missing" features.
Those were clearly documented when you bought your phone.
Again not Apple's fault.
Now you want Apple to give you a discount if you bought one within 6 months of a new model?
Do you think LG, RIM, or Palm would do that, or anybody?
Heck most companies would already have an update or two in that time.
Listen I know the feeling of buying something just to have a better one come out a bit later.
Thats life, you had a lot of ways you could have learned more and decided to delay your purchase but you didn't.
Also have had your phone for quite a long time.
I would have far more sympathy if you had bought it in the last month or 2.
You've had yours for almost half the product cycle.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254653</id>
	<title>Front Camera</title>
	<author>Bicx</author>
	<datestamp>1244492760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Come on. Not just for video chat, but for ordinary photos. For those of you who have ever tried to take a picture of yourself with friends using an iPhone, you know my pain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Come on .
Not just for video chat , but for ordinary photos .
For those of you who have ever tried to take a picture of yourself with friends using an iPhone , you know my pain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come on.
Not just for video chat, but for ordinary photos.
For those of you who have ever tried to take a picture of yourself with friends using an iPhone, you know my pain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262119</id>
	<title>Re:Shake it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244488800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I abhor the shake interface (use)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... is that strong enough?  I refuse to code it into any of my apps.  It's second only to the f'n auto-rotate in apps that don't allow me to LOCK the orientation!  Argh.  So much for lying down, relaxing and using the iphone... now I have to be a contortionist just to keep the damn thing from flippin' rotating.  Oh, AT&amp;T svcks too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I abhor the shake interface ( use ) ... is that strong enough ?
I refuse to code it into any of my apps .
It 's second only to the f'n auto-rotate in apps that do n't allow me to LOCK the orientation !
Argh. So much for lying down , relaxing and using the iphone... now I have to be a contortionist just to keep the damn thing from flippin ' rotating .
Oh , AT&amp;T svcks too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I abhor the shake interface (use) ... is that strong enough?
I refuse to code it into any of my apps.
It's second only to the f'n auto-rotate in apps that don't allow me to LOCK the orientation!
Argh.  So much for lying down, relaxing and using the iphone... now I have to be a contortionist just to keep the damn thing from flippin' rotating.
Oh, AT&amp;T svcks too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254599</id>
	<title>First post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Got karma to burn</htmltext>
<tokenext>Got karma to burn</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Got karma to burn</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255121</id>
	<title>No OpenGL ES 2.0</title>
	<author>Suiggy</author>
	<datestamp>1244494320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's no OpenGL ES 2.0 support in the iPhone 3GS, which makes me rather disseminated. I had been hoping for an upgrade, but it looks like it won't happen. The Palm Pre, on the other hand, has a GPU capable of OpenGL ES 2.0 and shaders.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's no OpenGL ES 2.0 support in the iPhone 3GS , which makes me rather disseminated .
I had been hoping for an upgrade , but it looks like it wo n't happen .
The Palm Pre , on the other hand , has a GPU capable of OpenGL ES 2.0 and shaders .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's no OpenGL ES 2.0 support in the iPhone 3GS, which makes me rather disseminated.
I had been hoping for an upgrade, but it looks like it won't happen.
The Palm Pre, on the other hand, has a GPU capable of OpenGL ES 2.0 and shaders.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28263165</id>
	<title>Re:Depends on how you define "success"</title>
	<author>garote</author>
	<datestamp>1244544360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Their presentation basically restated, bullet by bullet, everything that had been leaked to date. Nothing new or inspiring..."</p><p>I've got an idea for you.<br>Stop poring over the rumor sites and spoiling the surprise for yourself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Their presentation basically restated , bullet by bullet , everything that had been leaked to date .
Nothing new or inspiring... " I 've got an idea for you.Stop poring over the rumor sites and spoiling the surprise for yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Their presentation basically restated, bullet by bullet, everything that had been leaked to date.
Nothing new or inspiring..."I've got an idea for you.Stop poring over the rumor sites and spoiling the surprise for yourself.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28271135</id>
	<title>Re:The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244539800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think your claim breaks down when the "given number of bits" you get per month is actually... not a number of bits.</p><p>You see, "infinite" isn't a number.  This is probably why they don't want you connecting multiple devices over a single, <b>unlimited</b> connection.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think your claim breaks down when the " given number of bits " you get per month is actually... not a number of bits.You see , " infinite " is n't a number .
This is probably why they do n't want you connecting multiple devices over a single , unlimited connection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think your claim breaks down when the "given number of bits" you get per month is actually... not a number of bits.You see, "infinite" isn't a number.
This is probably why they don't want you connecting multiple devices over a single, unlimited connection.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254847</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28266895</id>
	<title>Re:To bulky, also old school</title>
	<author>Christian Henry</author>
	<datestamp>1244566980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.  CF is already on the way out for pro gear.</p></div><p>Could you please name <em>one</em> pro-level DSLR that has moved to <em>only</em> SD.  Or are you referring to dual-slot (SD + CF) camera bodies?
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>A CF card adaptor on the laptop would be far larger as well...</p></div><p>With simpler (and, I'm guessing, less expensive) less expensive electronics.  Most CF-to-SATA adapters I've run across tend to be less expensive (and more robust) than the equivalent SD-to-SATA adapters.  I'd have to guess that this is due to the simpler electronics on-board the CF-to-SATA adapters.
</p><p>Oh, and really, a CF card isn't really that much wider than an SD card (Apple certainly could have compromised with a CF-SD-combo slot; narrower than an ExpressCard slot, but better suited for the professional digital photographer market).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Newer DLSR 's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already .
CF is already on the way out for pro gear.Could you please name one pro-level DSLR that has moved to only SD .
Or are you referring to dual-slot ( SD + CF ) camera bodies ?
A CF card adaptor on the laptop would be far larger as well...With simpler ( and , I 'm guessing , less expensive ) less expensive electronics .
Most CF-to-SATA adapters I 've run across tend to be less expensive ( and more robust ) than the equivalent SD-to-SATA adapters .
I 'd have to guess that this is due to the simpler electronics on-board the CF-to-SATA adapters .
Oh , and really , a CF card is n't really that much wider than an SD card ( Apple certainly could have compromised with a CF-SD-combo slot ; narrower than an ExpressCard slot , but better suited for the professional digital photographer market ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Newer DLSR's are pretty much moving in bulk to SD cards already.
CF is already on the way out for pro gear.Could you please name one pro-level DSLR that has moved to only SD.
Or are you referring to dual-slot (SD + CF) camera bodies?
A CF card adaptor on the laptop would be far larger as well...With simpler (and, I'm guessing, less expensive) less expensive electronics.
Most CF-to-SATA adapters I've run across tend to be less expensive (and more robust) than the equivalent SD-to-SATA adapters.
I'd have to guess that this is due to the simpler electronics on-board the CF-to-SATA adapters.
Oh, and really, a CF card isn't really that much wider than an SD card (Apple certainly could have compromised with a CF-SD-combo slot; narrower than an ExpressCard slot, but better suited for the professional digital photographer market).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257133</id>
	<title>Re:Good update.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244457660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try tethering the Palm.  Sprint frowns on this without paying more for the privilege.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try tethering the Palm .
Sprint frowns on this without paying more for the privilege .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try tethering the Palm.
Sprint frowns on this without paying more for the privilege.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254727</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254815</id>
	<title>No iPod touch update?</title>
	<author>bbasgen</author>
	<datestamp>1244493300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I found it a bit surprising that the Touch was not updated. Technically I would think it is a non-issue, but I suppose they want to give the more lucrative iPhone the bump before the Touch gets the same thing. Its a shame -- I had been waiting a month to buy the Touch hoping it would get the same bump. Oh well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I found it a bit surprising that the Touch was not updated .
Technically I would think it is a non-issue , but I suppose they want to give the more lucrative iPhone the bump before the Touch gets the same thing .
Its a shame -- I had been waiting a month to buy the Touch hoping it would get the same bump .
Oh well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I found it a bit surprising that the Touch was not updated.
Technically I would think it is a non-issue, but I suppose they want to give the more lucrative iPhone the bump before the Touch gets the same thing.
Its a shame -- I had been waiting a month to buy the Touch hoping it would get the same bump.
Oh well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</id>
	<title>Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>tresstatus</author>
	<datestamp>1244493900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>in february, my wife and i both purchased 8GB IPhone 3G phones @ $199 each.  i know several other people that have done the same thing within the past couple of months.  it really peeves me that apple dropped the price to $99 AND introduced a new phone that has twice the capacity for the same price as the phone that I bought.  it would be different if they said, "in 1 year, there will be this blah blah blah phone for $199" because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price.  <br> <br>

i know i'm preachin to the choir, but apple should show some good faith and offer some sort of upgrade plan for people who purchased iphones within the past 6 months.  there is no way in hell that i'm going to shell out $199 more within the next couple of years just to get a phone that has features that apple fucked up in the original iphone3g.  i would, however, be willing to pay $50-75 to upgrade my phone to the IPhone3GS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>in february , my wife and i both purchased 8GB IPhone 3G phones @ $ 199 each .
i know several other people that have done the same thing within the past couple of months .
it really peeves me that apple dropped the price to $ 99 AND introduced a new phone that has twice the capacity for the same price as the phone that I bought .
it would be different if they said , " in 1 year , there will be this blah blah blah phone for $ 199 " because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $ 199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price .
i know i 'm preachin to the choir , but apple should show some good faith and offer some sort of upgrade plan for people who purchased iphones within the past 6 months .
there is no way in hell that i 'm going to shell out $ 199 more within the next couple of years just to get a phone that has features that apple fucked up in the original iphone3g .
i would , however , be willing to pay $ 50-75 to upgrade my phone to the IPhone3GS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in february, my wife and i both purchased 8GB IPhone 3G phones @ $199 each.
i know several other people that have done the same thing within the past couple of months.
it really peeves me that apple dropped the price to $99 AND introduced a new phone that has twice the capacity for the same price as the phone that I bought.
it would be different if they said, "in 1 year, there will be this blah blah blah phone for $199" because that would have given the consumers a chance to decide if they want to go ahead with the massive $199 purchase or wait to get something that is better for the same price.
i know i'm preachin to the choir, but apple should show some good faith and offer some sort of upgrade plan for people who purchased iphones within the past 6 months.
there is no way in hell that i'm going to shell out $199 more within the next couple of years just to get a phone that has features that apple fucked up in the original iphone3g.
i would, however, be willing to pay $50-75 to upgrade my phone to the IPhone3GS.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255787</id>
	<title>Re:No OpenGL ES 2.0</title>
	<author>hattig</author>
	<datestamp>1244453040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, OpenGL ES 2.0 was explicitly mentioned as a feature of the 3GS in the keynote. I.e., it has PowerVR SGX graphics instead of MBX.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , OpenGL ES 2.0 was explicitly mentioned as a feature of the 3GS in the keynote .
I.e. , it has PowerVR SGX graphics instead of MBX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, OpenGL ES 2.0 was explicitly mentioned as a feature of the 3GS in the keynote.
I.e., it has PowerVR SGX graphics instead of MBX.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255393</id>
	<title>Re:yeh, too bad...</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1244451780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I liked how AT&amp;T got booed twice. Once for no tethering, once for no MMS until July (or whatever).</p><p>I love my iPhone, but it's amazing that after basically saving AT&amp;T from irrelevance, they still don't get it. How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1? Only <i>every other phone on their network</i> supports it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I liked how AT&amp;T got booed twice .
Once for no tethering , once for no MMS until July ( or whatever ) .I love my iPhone , but it 's amazing that after basically saving AT&amp;T from irrelevance , they still do n't get it .
How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1 ?
Only every other phone on their network supports it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I liked how AT&amp;T got booed twice.
Once for no tethering, once for no MMS until July (or whatever).I love my iPhone, but it's amazing that after basically saving AT&amp;T from irrelevance, they still don't get it.
How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1?
Only every other phone on their network supports it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28304407</id>
	<title>Re:Macbook pro</title>
	<author>bryan1945</author>
	<datestamp>1244741640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are we going to go through another round of 'Apple got rid of the floppy drive', 'Apple got rid of the serial and parallel inputs', 'Apple got rid of whatever the hell they got rid of'?</p><p>My last computer didn't come with a cup of coffee, but I was pissed!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are we going to go through another round of 'Apple got rid of the floppy drive ' , 'Apple got rid of the serial and parallel inputs ' , 'Apple got rid of whatever the hell they got rid of ' ? My last computer did n't come with a cup of coffee , but I was pissed !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are we going to go through another round of 'Apple got rid of the floppy drive', 'Apple got rid of the serial and parallel inputs', 'Apple got rid of whatever the hell they got rid of'?My last computer didn't come with a cup of coffee, but I was pissed!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257691</id>
	<title>Neat summary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244459760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I liked the summary of the article. You don't need to read the whole thing if you just wanted a brief idea of what happened.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I liked the summary of the article .
You do n't need to read the whole thing if you just wanted a brief idea of what happened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I liked the summary of the article.
You don't need to read the whole thing if you just wanted a brief idea of what happened.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255211</id>
	<title>Re:The Fraud of Tethering</title>
	<author>AdmiralXyz</author>
	<datestamp>1244494560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device?</p></div><p>Right or wrong, the answer that AT&amp;T would give is that you're not going to use nearly as much data on an iPhone as you would on a laptop. Yes, they're converging, but we're still quite a ways from the point where people are going to be downloading torrents to watch on their phones, or even using a great deal of bandwidth on everyday internet applications, because phones are short-use devices. I'm not saying I agree with it, but the decision to disallow tethering is a pragmatic one based on the fact that it would almost certainly increase AT&amp;T's network load by a huge margin, considering the number of people who already own iPhones, and people are already complaining about the crappy speeds of their network as it is. You can't have it both ways.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device ? Right or wrong , the answer that AT&amp;T would give is that you 're not going to use nearly as much data on an iPhone as you would on a laptop .
Yes , they 're converging , but we 're still quite a ways from the point where people are going to be downloading torrents to watch on their phones , or even using a great deal of bandwidth on everyday internet applications , because phones are short-use devices .
I 'm not saying I agree with it , but the decision to disallow tethering is a pragmatic one based on the fact that it would almost certainly increase AT&amp;T 's network load by a huge margin , considering the number of people who already own iPhones , and people are already complaining about the crappy speeds of their network as it is .
You ca n't have it both ways .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How it tethering even different from storing the downloaded data in an iPhone and transferring it later to another device?Right or wrong, the answer that AT&amp;T would give is that you're not going to use nearly as much data on an iPhone as you would on a laptop.
Yes, they're converging, but we're still quite a ways from the point where people are going to be downloading torrents to watch on their phones, or even using a great deal of bandwidth on everyday internet applications, because phones are short-use devices.
I'm not saying I agree with it, but the decision to disallow tethering is a pragmatic one based on the fact that it would almost certainly increase AT&amp;T's network load by a huge margin, considering the number of people who already own iPhones, and people are already complaining about the crappy speeds of their network as it is.
You can't have it both ways.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257513</id>
	<title>Re:Bashing Competitors</title>
	<author>fermion</author>
	<datestamp>1244459100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is a little tacky, but deserved.  Here is my problem with MS.  They want to the user to buy a new machine, not the just the OS, they complicate the market by not artificially fracturing the software, and instead of gaining market share by lowering prices, they bitch and moan and set up corporate policy to force customers to spend money.
<p>
I do believe that manufacturers should be able to sell their product in whatever form, at whatever price they wish.  But if they choose a form and price that no one wants, and then they whine about is, I think that does make them look like little children that deserved to be called names.  Vista is an example.  It was a mistake, and the number of SKUs are insane,  Do you know that MS maintains a website just to keep the consumer for being confused?  Wouldn't it be simpler to have a home and business edition, and maybe have a separate deal for developers?  Is there any reason why the home edition can't cost $100 and the business edition $200.  I would have have paid $200 for vista.  Instead I paid $150 for XP.  I think a lot of rational agents are going to make the same decision.  I bet a lot of ration agents are going to make the same decision unitl MS Windows 7 is $200 in full form.
</p><p>
I have no doubt that MS Vista is an excellent OS, and that 7 is going to be even better.  I think 7 is exactly what MS needs to put out to keep customers in line.  I also know that Mac OS X does everything I need, and more, with free development tools, and I can upgrade all my machines for $50 to snow leopard.  I can't even begin to think about upgrading my windows machines to 7.  So MS wil continue to bitch that no one will pay the price to upgrade to the new OS, and Apple will continue to treat it like the whiny boy it is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is a little tacky , but deserved .
Here is my problem with MS. They want to the user to buy a new machine , not the just the OS , they complicate the market by not artificially fracturing the software , and instead of gaining market share by lowering prices , they bitch and moan and set up corporate policy to force customers to spend money .
I do believe that manufacturers should be able to sell their product in whatever form , at whatever price they wish .
But if they choose a form and price that no one wants , and then they whine about is , I think that does make them look like little children that deserved to be called names .
Vista is an example .
It was a mistake , and the number of SKUs are insane , Do you know that MS maintains a website just to keep the consumer for being confused ?
Would n't it be simpler to have a home and business edition , and maybe have a separate deal for developers ?
Is there any reason why the home edition ca n't cost $ 100 and the business edition $ 200 .
I would have have paid $ 200 for vista .
Instead I paid $ 150 for XP .
I think a lot of rational agents are going to make the same decision .
I bet a lot of ration agents are going to make the same decision unitl MS Windows 7 is $ 200 in full form .
I have no doubt that MS Vista is an excellent OS , and that 7 is going to be even better .
I think 7 is exactly what MS needs to put out to keep customers in line .
I also know that Mac OS X does everything I need , and more , with free development tools , and I can upgrade all my machines for $ 50 to snow leopard .
I ca n't even begin to think about upgrading my windows machines to 7 .
So MS wil continue to bitch that no one will pay the price to upgrade to the new OS , and Apple will continue to treat it like the whiny boy it is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is a little tacky, but deserved.
Here is my problem with MS.  They want to the user to buy a new machine, not the just the OS, they complicate the market by not artificially fracturing the software, and instead of gaining market share by lowering prices, they bitch and moan and set up corporate policy to force customers to spend money.
I do believe that manufacturers should be able to sell their product in whatever form, at whatever price they wish.
But if they choose a form and price that no one wants, and then they whine about is, I think that does make them look like little children that deserved to be called names.
Vista is an example.
It was a mistake, and the number of SKUs are insane,  Do you know that MS maintains a website just to keep the consumer for being confused?
Wouldn't it be simpler to have a home and business edition, and maybe have a separate deal for developers?
Is there any reason why the home edition can't cost $100 and the business edition $200.
I would have have paid $200 for vista.
Instead I paid $150 for XP.
I think a lot of rational agents are going to make the same decision.
I bet a lot of ration agents are going to make the same decision unitl MS Windows 7 is $200 in full form.
I have no doubt that MS Vista is an excellent OS, and that 7 is going to be even better.
I think 7 is exactly what MS needs to put out to keep customers in line.
I also know that Mac OS X does everything I need, and more, with free development tools, and I can upgrade all my machines for $50 to snow leopard.
I can't even begin to think about upgrading my windows machines to 7.
So MS wil continue to bitch that no one will pay the price to upgrade to the new OS, and Apple will continue to treat it like the whiny boy it is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258247</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1244462100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When did Apple ever release "me too!" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?</p></div><p>Many people viewed the iPod as one such device upon its release (perhaps most famously, Slashdot)</p><p>The AppleTV also seems like a somewhat half-assed product, while I honestly can't find a niche in which the MacBook Air would be an appealing purchase.  Although I don't own one, I can definitely see the appeal of netbooks.</p><p>The next time I upgrade my system, I'll purchase a nice desktop, and a half-decent netbook to carry around if I absolutely need to.  It'll cost the same as a 'normal' laptop, although I'll have a workhorse desktop with a giant screen, and an extremely portable laptop with great battery life.  (Actually, I'm quite interested to know how Apple managed to pull off their claimed battery innovations in the new Macbook, and whether or not that technology will make its way into low-end netbooks)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When did Apple ever release " me too !
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets ? Many people viewed the iPod as one such device upon its release ( perhaps most famously , Slashdot ) The AppleTV also seems like a somewhat half-assed product , while I honestly ca n't find a niche in which the MacBook Air would be an appealing purchase .
Although I do n't own one , I can definitely see the appeal of netbooks.The next time I upgrade my system , I 'll purchase a nice desktop , and a half-decent netbook to carry around if I absolutely need to .
It 'll cost the same as a 'normal ' laptop , although I 'll have a workhorse desktop with a giant screen , and an extremely portable laptop with great battery life .
( Actually , I 'm quite interested to know how Apple managed to pull off their claimed battery innovations in the new Macbook , and whether or not that technology will make its way into low-end netbooks )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When did Apple ever release "me too!
" products to jump into temporarily hot markets?Many people viewed the iPod as one such device upon its release (perhaps most famously, Slashdot)The AppleTV also seems like a somewhat half-assed product, while I honestly can't find a niche in which the MacBook Air would be an appealing purchase.
Although I don't own one, I can definitely see the appeal of netbooks.The next time I upgrade my system, I'll purchase a nice desktop, and a half-decent netbook to carry around if I absolutely need to.
It'll cost the same as a 'normal' laptop, although I'll have a workhorse desktop with a giant screen, and an extremely portable laptop with great battery life.
(Actually, I'm quite interested to know how Apple managed to pull off their claimed battery innovations in the new Macbook, and whether or not that technology will make its way into low-end netbooks)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258271</id>
	<title>Re:3G cheap as chips!</title>
	<author>end3rtm</author>
	<datestamp>1244462160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>But iPhone 3G being $99 is what it is.  If you have any other 3G smartphone on AT&amp;T, you'll pay the same amount.  I'm not sure why people keep on bringing this up.  Do other 3G smartphones on AT&amp;T have unlimited data plan that's cheaper than $30 (that can do non proxied connection so you can access ports other than 80?)

When people sell cars, they say what the retail price is...they don't add the gas price + insurance price + whatever other cost to keep the car running.

As an informed consumer, you are suppose to calculate the total cost of ownership using your typical usage as a guide.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But iPhone 3G being $ 99 is what it is .
If you have any other 3G smartphone on AT&amp;T , you 'll pay the same amount .
I 'm not sure why people keep on bringing this up .
Do other 3G smartphones on AT&amp;T have unlimited data plan that 's cheaper than $ 30 ( that can do non proxied connection so you can access ports other than 80 ?
) When people sell cars , they say what the retail price is...they do n't add the gas price + insurance price + whatever other cost to keep the car running .
As an informed consumer , you are suppose to calculate the total cost of ownership using your typical usage as a guide .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But iPhone 3G being $99 is what it is.
If you have any other 3G smartphone on AT&amp;T, you'll pay the same amount.
I'm not sure why people keep on bringing this up.
Do other 3G smartphones on AT&amp;T have unlimited data plan that's cheaper than $30 (that can do non proxied connection so you can access ports other than 80?
)

When people sell cars, they say what the retail price is...they don't add the gas price + insurance price + whatever other cost to keep the car running.
As an informed consumer, you are suppose to calculate the total cost of ownership using your typical usage as a guide.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256139</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244454060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros, worsened the battery situation on said laptops, and generally just ripped everyone off</p></div></blockquote><p><i>Especially</i> their non-customers.  You heard me!!!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros , worsened the battery situation on said laptops , and generally just ripped everyone offEspecially their non-customers .
You heard me ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They also took out an ExpressCard slot from their MacBook Pros, worsened the battery situation on said laptops, and generally just ripped everyone offEspecially their non-customers.
You heard me!!
!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258441</id>
	<title>i am there as soon as tethering and calling circle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244463060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i am there as soon as tethering and calling circle happen on at&amp;t</p><p>in lieu of the "circle", there used to be a gadget or service that would "live" on a cellular network (had a dial-in number on that network) and could forward calls out thru another line, resulting in unlimited calling thru this "in-network" relay but these devices seem to have disappeared - they were available for the various networks but i fear they have been squashed..<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... does anyone know if they still exist?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i am there as soon as tethering and calling circle happen on at&amp;tin lieu of the " circle " , there used to be a gadget or service that would " live " on a cellular network ( had a dial-in number on that network ) and could forward calls out thru another line , resulting in unlimited calling thru this " in-network " relay but these devices seem to have disappeared - they were available for the various networks but i fear they have been squashed.. ... does anyone know if they still exist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i am there as soon as tethering and calling circle happen on at&amp;tin lieu of the "circle", there used to be a gadget or service that would "live" on a cellular network (had a dial-in number on that network) and could forward calls out thru another line, resulting in unlimited calling thru this "in-network" relay but these devices seem to have disappeared - they were available for the various networks but i fear they have been squashed.. ... does anyone know if they still exist?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256599</id>
	<title>Re:OS X updates</title>
	<author>MobyTurbo</author>
	<datestamp>1244455680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.</p></div><p>To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29. It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.</p></div><p>Well, Safari 4 was indeed released. You shouldn't have quoted that.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Software updates saw Safari 4 launched , OS X updates including threading changes , Exchange support to mail , calendar , and address book , and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.To be clear , the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 ( Snow Leopard ) which will ship in September and cost $ 29 .
It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.Well , Safari 4 was indeed released .
You should n't have quoted that .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Software updates saw Safari 4 launched, OS X updates including threading changes, Exchange support to mail, calendar, and address book, and OpenCL a new open graphics standard.To be clear, the updates to OS X referred to are features of OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) which will ship in September and cost $29.
It is not an update to 10.5 and is not yet available outside of developer previews.Well, Safari 4 was indeed released.
You shouldn't have quoted that.
:-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254705</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255155</id>
	<title>Apple pushes the boundaries again</title>
	<author>Matt Perry</author>
	<datestamp>1244494440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow! MMS! Cut and Paste! Apple is really pushing the boundaries of computing these days.</p><p>Everyone that bought an iPhone got sold down the river if the best Apple can do is release 5+ year old cell phone features as something new.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow !
MMS ! Cut and Paste !
Apple is really pushing the boundaries of computing these days.Everyone that bought an iPhone got sold down the river if the best Apple can do is release 5 + year old cell phone features as something new .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow!
MMS! Cut and Paste!
Apple is really pushing the boundaries of computing these days.Everyone that bought an iPhone got sold down the river if the best Apple can do is release 5+ year old cell phone features as something new.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256713</id>
	<title>NO FLASH</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244456040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I'm not talking about a camera flash either!  Its been two years and there still is no flash support?  I know it must be ATT holding things back, but come on, at least let us have flash enabled over Wi-Fi.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I 'm not talking about a camera flash either !
Its been two years and there still is no flash support ?
I know it must be ATT holding things back , but come on , at least let us have flash enabled over Wi-Fi .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I'm not talking about a camera flash either!
Its been two years and there still is no flash support?
I know it must be ATT holding things back, but come on, at least let us have flash enabled over Wi-Fi.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28263307</id>
	<title>Re:HTML 5 is the big deal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244546280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple was always on board with HTML 5. The damned Canvas element originated at Apple (their dashboard widgets use it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple was always on board with HTML 5 .
The damned Canvas element originated at Apple ( their dashboard widgets use it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple was always on board with HTML 5.
The damned Canvas element originated at Apple (their dashboard widgets use it).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255193</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259429</id>
	<title>Re:&#194;&pound;900 for a 13 inch laptop</title>
	<author>falconwolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244469180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There is no way I'm paying &#194;&pound;900 for a 13 inch laptop. I'll likely get a Mac Book Pro in the near future and I'm ok with the larger ones being priced high but the 13 inch ones just don't feel priced right for what you're getting.</i></p><p>Did you look at the 13" MacBook Pro?</p><p>

Falcon</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no way I 'm paying     900 for a 13 inch laptop .
I 'll likely get a Mac Book Pro in the near future and I 'm ok with the larger ones being priced high but the 13 inch ones just do n't feel priced right for what you 're getting.Did you look at the 13 " MacBook Pro ?
Falcon</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no way I'm paying Â£900 for a 13 inch laptop.
I'll likely get a Mac Book Pro in the near future and I'm ok with the larger ones being priced high but the 13 inch ones just don't feel priced right for what you're getting.Did you look at the 13" MacBook Pro?
Falcon</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255399</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28264915</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244559000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could pick up a refurbished older model from the apple store.  Comes with a 1 year warranty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could pick up a refurbished older model from the apple store .
Comes with a 1 year warranty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could pick up a refurbished older model from the apple store.
Comes with a 1 year warranty.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256399</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257125</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>Sonic McTails</author>
	<datestamp>1244457600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, i386-&gt;amd64 is an improvement. While you do loose performance going from 32-&gt;64 memory addresses (and thus using more cache), you gain more general use registers, which i386 is *greatly* starved (you basically have four that you know are always available, and the a bunch more that may or may not be available for general usage if you know what features the processor supports, and you hand-write ASM, or tune your compiler). Hence the performance increases going from i386-&gt;amd64, but no on other 32 to 64 migrations involving the same architecture base set (i.e., sparc32-&gt;sparc64 or powerpc32-&gt;powerpc64).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , i386- &gt; amd64 is an improvement .
While you do loose performance going from 32- &gt; 64 memory addresses ( and thus using more cache ) , you gain more general use registers , which i386 is * greatly * starved ( you basically have four that you know are always available , and the a bunch more that may or may not be available for general usage if you know what features the processor supports , and you hand-write ASM , or tune your compiler ) .
Hence the performance increases going from i386- &gt; amd64 , but no on other 32 to 64 migrations involving the same architecture base set ( i.e. , sparc32- &gt; sparc64 or powerpc32- &gt; powerpc64 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, i386-&gt;amd64 is an improvement.
While you do loose performance going from 32-&gt;64 memory addresses (and thus using more cache), you gain more general use registers, which i386 is *greatly* starved (you basically have four that you know are always available, and the a bunch more that may or may not be available for general usage if you know what features the processor supports, and you hand-write ASM, or tune your compiler).
Hence the performance increases going from i386-&gt;amd64, but no on other 32 to 64 migrations involving the same architecture base set (i.e., sparc32-&gt;sparc64 or powerpc32-&gt;powerpc64).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255663</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256709</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>secretcurse</author>
	<datestamp>1244456040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>HCSD is quickly replacing MiniDV tape in "prosumer" video cameras.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HCSD is quickly replacing MiniDV tape in " prosumer " video cameras .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HCSD is quickly replacing MiniDV tape in "prosumer" video cameras.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255047</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254661</id>
	<title>Is this the new style?</title>
	<author>Dotren</author>
	<datestamp>1244492760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Posting these minute-by-minute conference updates and them appearing on the page backwards?</p><p>It seems like I just read some E3 updates laid out in the same manner last week and now I wonder if that article was from Endgadget as well or if this is becoming a common practice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Posting these minute-by-minute conference updates and them appearing on the page backwards ? It seems like I just read some E3 updates laid out in the same manner last week and now I wonder if that article was from Endgadget as well or if this is becoming a common practice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Posting these minute-by-minute conference updates and them appearing on the page backwards?It seems like I just read some E3 updates laid out in the same manner last week and now I wonder if that article was from Endgadget as well or if this is becoming a common practice.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255047</id>
	<title>Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1244494140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since most higher-level dSLRs use Compact Flash, I'm a bit surprised they didn't include a CF slot on their "pro" line of laptops instead of an SD slot - especially since a CF slot could've served both CF and SD card users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since most higher-level dSLRs use Compact Flash , I 'm a bit surprised they did n't include a CF slot on their " pro " line of laptops instead of an SD slot - especially since a CF slot could 've served both CF and SD card users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since most higher-level dSLRs use Compact Flash, I'm a bit surprised they didn't include a CF slot on their "pro" line of laptops instead of an SD slot - especially since a CF slot could've served both CF and SD card users.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255189</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>MaXintosh</author>
	<datestamp>1244494560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was wondering the same thing too. Apple prides itself on having gee-wiz hardware to go with. If I was reading the tea leaves, I would guess they couldn't get a reasonably priced parts contract with a co. that supplies Compact Flash, so they went with SD. Then again, it's apple. They're about as inscrutable as they get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wondering the same thing too .
Apple prides itself on having gee-wiz hardware to go with .
If I was reading the tea leaves , I would guess they could n't get a reasonably priced parts contract with a co. that supplies Compact Flash , so they went with SD .
Then again , it 's apple .
They 're about as inscrutable as they get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wondering the same thing too.
Apple prides itself on having gee-wiz hardware to go with.
If I was reading the tea leaves, I would guess they couldn't get a reasonably priced parts contract with a co. that supplies Compact Flash, so they went with SD.
Then again, it's apple.
They're about as inscrutable as they get.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255047</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255687</id>
	<title>Re:No iPod touch update?</title>
	<author>teg</author>
	<datestamp>1244452740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>I found it a bit surprising that the Touch was not updated. Technically I would think it is a non-issue, but I suppose they want to give the more lucrative iPhone the bump before the Touch gets the same thing. Its a shame -- I had been waiting a month to buy the Touch hoping it would get the same bump. Oh well.</i> </p><p>
Apple typically updates their ipods in the early autumn - Touch and the rest at the same time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I found it a bit surprising that the Touch was not updated .
Technically I would think it is a non-issue , but I suppose they want to give the more lucrative iPhone the bump before the Touch gets the same thing .
Its a shame -- I had been waiting a month to buy the Touch hoping it would get the same bump .
Oh well .
Apple typically updates their ipods in the early autumn - Touch and the rest at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I found it a bit surprising that the Touch was not updated.
Technically I would think it is a non-issue, but I suppose they want to give the more lucrative iPhone the bump before the Touch gets the same thing.
Its a shame -- I had been waiting a month to buy the Touch hoping it would get the same bump.
Oh well.
Apple typically updates their ipods in the early autumn - Touch and the rest at the same time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254815</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262443</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>MojoStan</author>
	<datestamp>1244578800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>eh? please don't misinform people about rates. The upgrade rates for existing AT&amp;T customers (incl those who own an iPhone) are, with 2-year contract,</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>These are numbers i got from apple.com as I went through the upgrade process - I am an existing AT&amp;T customer with an old (first gen) iPhone.</p></div><p>Don't misinform people by implying that your rates will apply to other existing AT&amp;T customers. According to <a href="http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/06/att-on-tethering-iphone-3g-s-pre-orders-early-upgrades.ars" title="arstechnica.com">an Ars Technica article</a> [arstechnica.com], AT&amp;T will typically allow full subsidized pricing after about 18 months after buying their previously subsidized phone. Also, your first-gen iPhone was not subsidized.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>eh ?
please do n't misinform people about rates .
The upgrade rates for existing AT&amp;T customers ( incl those who own an iPhone ) are , with 2-year contract,These are numbers i got from apple.com as I went through the upgrade process - I am an existing AT&amp;T customer with an old ( first gen ) iPhone.Do n't misinform people by implying that your rates will apply to other existing AT&amp;T customers .
According to an Ars Technica article [ arstechnica.com ] , AT&amp;T will typically allow full subsidized pricing after about 18 months after buying their previously subsidized phone .
Also , your first-gen iPhone was not subsidized .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eh?
please don't misinform people about rates.
The upgrade rates for existing AT&amp;T customers (incl those who own an iPhone) are, with 2-year contract,These are numbers i got from apple.com as I went through the upgrade process - I am an existing AT&amp;T customer with an old (first gen) iPhone.Don't misinform people by implying that your rates will apply to other existing AT&amp;T customers.
According to an Ars Technica article [arstechnica.com], AT&amp;T will typically allow full subsidized pricing after about 18 months after buying their previously subsidized phone.
Also, your first-gen iPhone was not subsidized.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258479</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256655</id>
	<title>Tethering - Countries?</title>
	<author>nighty5</author>
	<datestamp>1244455800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did Apple mention which respective countries and carriers will support tethering?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did Apple mention which respective countries and carriers will support tethering ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did Apple mention which respective countries and carriers will support tethering?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255557</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>EastCoastSurfer</author>
	<datestamp>1244452320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm with ATT and my 2 years is far from being up.  The website told me I would get the upgrade pricing.  If you're willing to sign another 2 year contract I bet one of their sales people will work with you.  Everything is always negotiable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm with ATT and my 2 years is far from being up .
The website told me I would get the upgrade pricing .
If you 're willing to sign another 2 year contract I bet one of their sales people will work with you .
Everything is always negotiable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm with ATT and my 2 years is far from being up.
The website told me I would get the upgrade pricing.
If you're willing to sign another 2 year contract I bet one of their sales people will work with you.
Everything is always negotiable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254773</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28265885</id>
	<title>Simple economics</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1244563320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perform a thought experiment: measure the quantity of data that a hundred iPhone users go through in a month at present.  You'll find it's X, mainly composed of some light web browsing, a bit of email, some youtube, etc.
<br>
Fast forward to a brave new world of tethering, just after Joe Sixpack has realised he doesn't need a USB 3G modem for his laptop, or even home broadband - he can just tether and use his iPhone.  Measure the quantity of data a hundred users go through in a month.  Be surprised that it's several multiples of X.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perform a thought experiment : measure the quantity of data that a hundred iPhone users go through in a month at present .
You 'll find it 's X , mainly composed of some light web browsing , a bit of email , some youtube , etc .
Fast forward to a brave new world of tethering , just after Joe Sixpack has realised he does n't need a USB 3G modem for his laptop , or even home broadband - he can just tether and use his iPhone .
Measure the quantity of data a hundred users go through in a month .
Be surprised that it 's several multiples of X .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perform a thought experiment: measure the quantity of data that a hundred iPhone users go through in a month at present.
You'll find it's X, mainly composed of some light web browsing, a bit of email, some youtube, etc.
Fast forward to a brave new world of tethering, just after Joe Sixpack has realised he doesn't need a USB 3G modem for his laptop, or even home broadband - he can just tether and use his iPhone.
Measure the quantity of data a hundred users go through in a month.
Be surprised that it's several multiples of X.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254847</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257091</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1244457480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Using it for graphics may be silly, but its generally used to crunch data to be displayed in a graphical way.  Games use it too!  If you're crunching large sets of complex math you're probably going to visualize the output in some sort of neat 3d interface, maybe not on one of the machines in a cluster but still for most people its going to make pretty graphics faster or neater in some way in the end.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Using it for graphics may be silly , but its generally used to crunch data to be displayed in a graphical way .
Games use it too !
If you 're crunching large sets of complex math you 're probably going to visualize the output in some sort of neat 3d interface , maybe not on one of the machines in a cluster but still for most people its going to make pretty graphics faster or neater in some way in the end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using it for graphics may be silly, but its generally used to crunch data to be displayed in a graphical way.
Games use it too!
If you're crunching large sets of complex math you're probably going to visualize the output in some sort of neat 3d interface, maybe not on one of the machines in a cluster but still for most people its going to make pretty graphics faster or neater in some way in the end.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254703</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257213</id>
	<title>From AT&amp;T</title>
	<author>palmerj3</author>
	<datestamp>1244457960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>iPhone Users: "Sweet!  Tethering &amp; MMS!"
<br>
AT&amp;T: "No fun for you, US!" *pats Japan on the head*</htmltext>
<tokenext>iPhone Users : " Sweet !
Tethering &amp; MMS !
" AT&amp;T : " No fun for you , US !
" * pats Japan on the head *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPhone Users: "Sweet!
Tethering &amp; MMS!
"

AT&amp;T: "No fun for you, US!
" *pats Japan on the head*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258183</id>
	<title>APPLE FRAUD!</title>
	<author>Nom du Keyboard</author>
	<datestamp>1244461740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you can't buy it over the counter sans service contract for $99, then it's NOT a $99 iPhone. It's a lie!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ca n't buy it over the counter sans service contract for $ 99 , then it 's NOT a $ 99 iPhone .
It 's a lie !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can't buy it over the counter sans service contract for $99, then it's NOT a $99 iPhone.
It's a lie!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254711</id>
	<title>WWDC'09 Pictures and Panorama</title>
	<author>e133tc1pher</author>
	<datestamp>1244493000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I took a bunch of pictures at WWDC and made a panorama of the Moscone center <a href="http://msca.me/1J" title="msca.me" rel="nofollow">http://msca.me/1J</a> [msca.me] .  Click around it's pretty neat.  I think brian lam from gizmodo might be in there on the right.  The WWDC'09 has been great so far, but what is up with the matte case that was floating around previously, was that a hoax or what?  I could have sworn it was for the $100 one (which ran out in all the stores I've checked).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I took a bunch of pictures at WWDC and made a panorama of the Moscone center http : //msca.me/1J [ msca.me ] .
Click around it 's pretty neat .
I think brian lam from gizmodo might be in there on the right .
The WWDC'09 has been great so far , but what is up with the matte case that was floating around previously , was that a hoax or what ?
I could have sworn it was for the $ 100 one ( which ran out in all the stores I 've checked ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I took a bunch of pictures at WWDC and made a panorama of the Moscone center http://msca.me/1J [msca.me] .
Click around it's pretty neat.
I think brian lam from gizmodo might be in there on the right.
The WWDC'09 has been great so far, but what is up with the matte case that was floating around previously, was that a hoax or what?
I could have sworn it was for the $100 one (which ran out in all the stores I've checked).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255757</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows. Since OS X is a competitor to Windows, this makes sense.</p></div><p>Can I buy OSX and install it on a PC legally and with ease? Sorry, no I can't. Thus, OS X is not a true "competitor" to Windows.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows .
Since OS X is a competitor to Windows , this makes sense.Can I buy OSX and install it on a PC legally and with ease ?
Sorry , no I ca n't .
Thus , OS X is not a true " competitor " to Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows.
Since OS X is a competitor to Windows, this makes sense.Can I buy OSX and install it on a PC legally and with ease?
Sorry, no I can't.
Thus, OS X is not a true "competitor" to Windows.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255387</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259781</id>
	<title>Re:yeh, too bad...</title>
	<author>SwabTheDeck</author>
	<datestamp>1244471220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1? Only every other phone on their network supports it.</p></div><p>
I'd say that it's most likely the fact that AT&amp;T is trying to find a new and unusual way to gouge people by altering their MMS price plants.  They're probably just taking some extra time to optimize their rape-to-profit ratio.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1 ?
Only every other phone on their network supports it .
I 'd say that it 's most likely the fact that AT&amp;T is trying to find a new and unusual way to gouge people by altering their MMS price plants .
They 're probably just taking some extra time to optimize their rape-to-profit ratio .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How hard could it POSSIBLY BE to have MMS support available on day 1?
Only every other phone on their network supports it.
I'd say that it's most likely the fact that AT&amp;T is trying to find a new and unusual way to gouge people by altering their MMS price plants.
They're probably just taking some extra time to optimize their rape-to-profit ratio.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255393</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255627</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be pissed off to man.  I started looking for my first computer when Intel released the 486/DX33. I'm STILL looking and waiting.  Then came the DX/2 models, then PCI, then x4, then the Pentium.  I came really close around the time of the FDIV bug.  Things were looking good, the P75 and 90 were pigs, MMX did not have application support and it was going to be a while for the P2 and Cyrix had gone under.  AMD screwed it up with the 686 and my wait started all over again.  As soon as they stop getting faster and the price stops going down, I will eventually get a computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be pissed off to man .
I started looking for my first computer when Intel released the 486/DX33 .
I 'm STILL looking and waiting .
Then came the DX/2 models , then PCI , then x4 , then the Pentium .
I came really close around the time of the FDIV bug .
Things were looking good , the P75 and 90 were pigs , MMX did not have application support and it was going to be a while for the P2 and Cyrix had gone under .
AMD screwed it up with the 686 and my wait started all over again .
As soon as they stop getting faster and the price stops going down , I will eventually get a computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be pissed off to man.
I started looking for my first computer when Intel released the 486/DX33.
I'm STILL looking and waiting.
Then came the DX/2 models, then PCI, then x4, then the Pentium.
I came really close around the time of the FDIV bug.
Things were looking good, the P75 and 90 were pigs, MMX did not have application support and it was going to be a while for the P2 and Cyrix had gone under.
AMD screwed it up with the 686 and my wait started all over again.
As soon as they stop getting faster and the price stops going down, I will eventually get a computer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254707</id>
	<title>Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bets on when nullriver sues over their tethering software's reasonless removal from the app store now that Apple is offering tethering.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bets on when nullriver sues over their tethering software 's reasonless removal from the app store now that Apple is offering tethering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bets on when nullriver sues over their tethering software's reasonless removal from the app store now that Apple is offering tethering.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255401</id>
	<title>Re:FTFF</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1244451840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You realize any user can add shortcuts to any menu option with the Keyboard &amp; Mouse pref pane, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You realize any user can add shortcuts to any menu option with the Keyboard &amp; Mouse pref pane , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You realize any user can add shortcuts to any menu option with the Keyboard &amp; Mouse pref pane, right?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254979</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255653</id>
	<title>See yourself in Apple logo - take picture</title>
	<author>\_Shorty-dammit</author>
	<datestamp>1244452620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Taking a picture of yourself with the iPhone is easy.  When you can see yourself in the reflection of the Apple logo, take your picture.  Works just fine and dandy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Taking a picture of yourself with the iPhone is easy .
When you can see yourself in the reflection of the Apple logo , take your picture .
Works just fine and dandy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taking a picture of yourself with the iPhone is easy.
When you can see yourself in the reflection of the Apple logo, take your picture.
Works just fine and dandy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254653</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255679</id>
	<title>PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook.</title>
	<author>geogaia</author>
	<datestamp>1244452680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside: Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers. (I still visit classrooms quite happily running Mac OS 8 on old PowerPC hardware, for example.) But the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs. That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned. I'm not alone in this--I don't know how many million PPC Macs are still running, but Apple was selling them new three years ago. I'm more than a little annoyed.

No doubt soon I won't be able to get Apple OS security patches, updates to iLife and iTunes, etc. It's almost like running Windows XP.

Fortunately, it's still Mach *nix based, and as long as FOSS developers check their code against the PPC compilers, I can still get current versions of Firefox, Thunderbird, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside : Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers .
( I still visit classrooms quite happily running Mac OS 8 on old PowerPC hardware , for example .
) But the new Mac OS X 10.6 ( Snow Leopard ) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs .
That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned .
I 'm not alone in this--I do n't know how many million PPC Macs are still running , but Apple was selling them new three years ago .
I 'm more than a little annoyed .
No doubt soon I wo n't be able to get Apple OS security patches , updates to iLife and iTunes , etc .
It 's almost like running Windows XP .
Fortunately , it 's still Mach * nix based , and as long as FOSS developers check their code against the PPC compilers , I can still get current versions of Firefox , Thunderbird , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside: Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers.
(I still visit classrooms quite happily running Mac OS 8 on old PowerPC hardware, for example.
) But the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs.
That makes my barely-out-of warranty PowerBook G4 end of line as far as Apple is concerned.
I'm not alone in this--I don't know how many million PPC Macs are still running, but Apple was selling them new three years ago.
I'm more than a little annoyed.
No doubt soon I won't be able to get Apple OS security patches, updates to iLife and iTunes, etc.
It's almost like running Windows XP.
Fortunately, it's still Mach *nix based, and as long as FOSS developers check their code against the PPC compilers, I can still get current versions of Firefox, Thunderbird, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259401</id>
	<title>Re:3G cheap as chips!</title>
	<author>changedx</author>
	<datestamp>1244469060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most things in life have a Total Cost of Ownership that greatly exceed the initial price:<br> <br>
Printers - Ink<br>
TV - Cable<br>
Car - Gas / Repairs / Insurance<br>
Babies - Food / Diapers / College Fund<br> <br>
I debated for a long time whether it was worth it -- to me -- to upgrade my 5-year-old PalmOS phone to an iPhone and pay for a data plan.  I finally decided that it was worth the $1/day more than my old cell phone plan.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most things in life have a Total Cost of Ownership that greatly exceed the initial price : Printers - Ink TV - Cable Car - Gas / Repairs / Insurance Babies - Food / Diapers / College Fund I debated for a long time whether it was worth it -- to me -- to upgrade my 5-year-old PalmOS phone to an iPhone and pay for a data plan .
I finally decided that it was worth the $ 1/day more than my old cell phone plan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most things in life have a Total Cost of Ownership that greatly exceed the initial price: 
Printers - Ink
TV - Cable
Car - Gas / Repairs / Insurance
Babies - Food / Diapers / College Fund 
I debated for a long time whether it was worth it -- to me -- to upgrade my 5-year-old PalmOS phone to an iPhone and pay for a data plan.
I finally decided that it was worth the $1/day more than my old cell phone plan.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256453</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254989</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>CrackedButter</author>
	<datestamp>1244493900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>*thumbs up* CrackedButter and 2 other Mac fanboys like this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>* thumbs up * CrackedButter and 2 other Mac fanboys like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*thumbs up* CrackedButter and 2 other Mac fanboys like this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255497</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's a hint, don't buy a 3GS this coming February.  Super-secret, inside sources tell me that there will be an update to the iPhone in June of 2010 sometime near or in conjunction with WWDC.  The 3GS will also drop in price at the same time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a hint , do n't buy a 3GS this coming February .
Super-secret , inside sources tell me that there will be an update to the iPhone in June of 2010 sometime near or in conjunction with WWDC .
The 3GS will also drop in price at the same time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a hint, don't buy a 3GS this coming February.
Super-secret, inside sources tell me that there will be an update to the iPhone in June of 2010 sometime near or in conjunction with WWDC.
The 3GS will also drop in price at the same time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255049</id>
	<title>Re:$79 Touch</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1244494140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It costs a fair bit more than $99 if you don't have a contract.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It costs a fair bit more than $ 99 if you do n't have a contract .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It costs a fair bit more than $99 if you don't have a contract.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254945</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256097</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>tgibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1244453940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net. In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that, and at $500 is much easier on the wallet. No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS, unlike bloated Windows (reason why netbooks run XP), which I just do not get. Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space.</p></div></blockquote><p>You answered your own question. Apple does not compete in the bargain-basement market; its strategy has always been to add sufficient value so that consumers are willing to pay a high (margin) price. So the reason that Apple is pooh-poohing the netbook is quite simple: They haven't yet figured out how to make one that is so cool that you will pay $750 for an Apple netbook instead of that $500 Dell. So far, the only way that they've figured to make a high-margin netbook at a price consumers will pay is to keep the screen real small. They call it the iPod Touch.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I will not spend over $ 1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net .
In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that , and at $ 500 is much easier on the wallet .
No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS , unlike bloated Windows ( reason why netbooks run XP ) , which I just do not get .
Just do not fully understand Apple 's poo-pooing the netbook space.You answered your own question .
Apple does not compete in the bargain-basement market ; its strategy has always been to add sufficient value so that consumers are willing to pay a high ( margin ) price .
So the reason that Apple is pooh-poohing the netbook is quite simple : They have n't yet figured out how to make one that is so cool that you will pay $ 750 for an Apple netbook instead of that $ 500 Dell .
So far , the only way that they 've figured to make a high-margin netbook at a price consumers will pay is to keep the screen real small .
They call it the iPod Touch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I will not spend over $1,000 for an Air to just do email and surf the net.
In fact I just bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu for that, and at $500 is much easier on the wallet.
No entry here by Apple despite Apple having a Mobile ready OS, unlike bloated Windows (reason why netbooks run XP), which I just do not get.
Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space.You answered your own question.
Apple does not compete in the bargain-basement market; its strategy has always been to add sufficient value so that consumers are willing to pay a high (margin) price.
So the reason that Apple is pooh-poohing the netbook is quite simple: They haven't yet figured out how to make one that is so cool that you will pay $750 for an Apple netbook instead of that $500 Dell.
So far, the only way that they've figured to make a high-margin netbook at a price consumers will pay is to keep the screen real small.
They call it the iPod Touch.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254963</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255807</id>
	<title>Re:The GS stands for...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244453040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Get Some" which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk.</p></div><p>Best.</p><p>Comment.</p><p>Ever.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Get Some " which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk.Best.Comment.Ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Get Some" which Apple execs were rumored to have yelled at rival Palm execs while squeezing their junk.Best.Comment.Ever.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254605</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255387</id>
	<title>-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244451780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Excuse me?</p><p>1) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows.  Since OS X is a competitor to Windows, this makes sense.<br>2) Snow Leopard is not a service pack.  It has new features, some of which are revolutionary such as a 64-bit kernel, exchange support, OpenCL, Grand Central and dramatic performance improvements.  <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/" title="apple.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/macosx/</a> [apple.com]<br>3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it.  I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.<br>4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book.  Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable?   I don't see that as a major issue.  How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?<br>5) How did Apple "rip everyone off"?   Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive *and* improving the hardware.<br>6) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it.   That was their point.   I can't say whether or not Vista sucks, since I haven't used it that much.<br>7) How is Apple "the biggest troll on the planet" for making fun of Microsoft for less than a minute?   Other companies do the same things to their competitors.<br>8) How does less than a minute of making fun of one of their competitors "turn off the enterprise crowd"?  Oh, I forgot.   All of your friends must comprise 100\% of the "enterprise crowd".   Maybe features like Grand Central Station, OpenCL, 64-bitness and Exchange Support, not to mention remote wipe and encryption will win the enterprise crowd.   After all, you don't get enterprise accounts by selling vapourware.  Apple knows this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excuse me ? 1 ) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows .
Since OS X is a competitor to Windows , this makes sense.2 ) Snow Leopard is not a service pack .
It has new features , some of which are revolutionary such as a 64-bit kernel , exchange support , OpenCL , Grand Central and dramatic performance improvements .
http : //www.apple.com/macosx/ [ apple.com ] 3 ) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it .
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.4 ) The batteries now have way more battery life , which is n't " worsening " the battery situation in my book .
Perhaps you 're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable ?
I do n't see that as a major issue .
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery ? 5 ) How did Apple " rip everyone off " ?
Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive * and * improving the hardware.6 ) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it .
That was their point .
I ca n't say whether or not Vista sucks , since I have n't used it that much.7 ) How is Apple " the biggest troll on the planet " for making fun of Microsoft for less than a minute ?
Other companies do the same things to their competitors.8 ) How does less than a minute of making fun of one of their competitors " turn off the enterprise crowd " ?
Oh , I forgot .
All of your friends must comprise 100 \ % of the " enterprise crowd " .
Maybe features like Grand Central Station , OpenCL , 64-bitness and Exchange Support , not to mention remote wipe and encryption will win the enterprise crowd .
After all , you do n't get enterprise accounts by selling vapourware .
Apple knows this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excuse me?1) Apple spent maybe a minute bashing Windows.
Since OS X is a competitor to Windows, this makes sense.2) Snow Leopard is not a service pack.
It has new features, some of which are revolutionary such as a 64-bit kernel, exchange support, OpenCL, Grand Central and dramatic performance improvements.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/ [apple.com]3) Perhaps they took out the express slot because not enough of their customers wanted it.
I have a MacBook Pro and never saw the use for it.4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book.
Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable?
I don't see that as a major issue.
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?5) How did Apple "rip everyone off"?
Apple is pricing their notebooks more aggressive *and* improving the hardware.6) Vista was badly received and Microsoft built Windows 7 on top of it.
That was their point.
I can't say whether or not Vista sucks, since I haven't used it that much.7) How is Apple "the biggest troll on the planet" for making fun of Microsoft for less than a minute?
Other companies do the same things to their competitors.8) How does less than a minute of making fun of one of their competitors "turn off the enterprise crowd"?
Oh, I forgot.
All of your friends must comprise 100\% of the "enterprise crowd".
Maybe features like Grand Central Station, OpenCL, 64-bitness and Exchange Support, not to mention remote wipe and encryption will win the enterprise crowd.
After all, you don't get enterprise accounts by selling vapourware.
Apple knows this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28265469</id>
	<title>Re:OS X updates</title>
	<author>CountBrass</author>
	<datestamp>1244561460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>OSX is only available "new" when you get it with a new Mac so i'd be interested to know where you pulled "$129 new" from.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OSX is only available " new " when you get it with a new Mac so i 'd be interested to know where you pulled " $ 129 new " from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OSX is only available "new" when you get it with a new Mac so i'd be interested to know where you pulled "$129 new" from.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259233</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1244468100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the other hand, try to explain to my grandmother why 64-bit computing is a good thing at all.  Eventually you'll come down to some kind of statement as inaccurate as "it's faster" or "it lets you deal with more stuff at the same time."</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , try to explain to my grandmother why 64-bit computing is a good thing at all .
Eventually you 'll come down to some kind of statement as inaccurate as " it 's faster " or " it lets you deal with more stuff at the same time .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, try to explain to my grandmother why 64-bit computing is a good thing at all.
Eventually you'll come down to some kind of statement as inaccurate as "it's faster" or "it lets you deal with more stuff at the same time.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28259283</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Ziwcam</author>
	<datestamp>1244468340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm gonna say this once. <b>THIS IS HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CELLPHONE INDUSTRY! IF YOU WANTED A NEW PHONE BEFORE YOUR CONTRACT WAS UP, YOU PAID FULL PRICE</b> <p>
Also, stupid slashdot, I was using so many caps because I am yelling. Yeesh.</p><p>
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The rain in spain falls mainly on the plains. Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm gon na say this once .
THIS IS HOW IT 'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CELLPHONE INDUSTRY !
IF YOU WANTED A NEW PHONE BEFORE YOUR CONTRACT WAS UP , YOU PAID FULL PRICE Also , stupid slashdot , I was using so many caps because I am yelling .
Yeesh . The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog .
The rain in spain falls mainly on the plains .
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm gonna say this once.
THIS IS HOW IT'S ALWAYS BEEN IN THE CELLPHONE INDUSTRY!
IF YOU WANTED A NEW PHONE BEFORE YOUR CONTRACT WAS UP, YOU PAID FULL PRICE 
Also, stupid slashdot, I was using so many caps because I am yelling.
Yeesh.
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
The rain in spain falls mainly on the plains.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255749</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm hoping my local ATT shop will allow me to *extend* my contract 2 more years too get the $299 price on the 32GB.. otherwise, I'm not sure who they think they'll be selling these to... anyone that wanted one that could justify the $299 price w/ contract already has one.. who's going to buy one for $699???</p><p>Someone needs to be fired..from a canon!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm hoping my local ATT shop will allow me to * extend * my contract 2 more years too get the $ 299 price on the 32GB.. otherwise , I 'm not sure who they think they 'll be selling these to... anyone that wanted one that could justify the $ 299 price w/ contract already has one.. who 's going to buy one for $ 699 ? ?
? Someone needs to be fired..from a canon !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm hoping my local ATT shop will allow me to *extend* my contract 2 more years too get the $299 price on the 32GB.. otherwise, I'm not sure who they think they'll be selling these to... anyone that wanted one that could justify the $299 price w/ contract already has one.. who's going to buy one for $699??
?Someone needs to be fired..from a canon!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256251</id>
	<title>Re:$79 Touch</title>
	<author>tgibbs</author>
	<datestamp>1244454420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If there's a $99 iPhone, can a $79 iPod Touch be far behind?</p></div> </blockquote><p>Very, very far behind. It's not really $99--that's probably no more than a third the total price. You pay the rest off on time as part of your AT&amp;T subscription.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there 's a $ 99 iPhone , can a $ 79 iPod Touch be far behind ?
Very , very far behind .
It 's not really $ 99--that 's probably no more than a third the total price .
You pay the rest off on time as part of your AT&amp;T subscription .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there's a $99 iPhone, can a $79 iPod Touch be far behind?
Very, very far behind.
It's not really $99--that's probably no more than a third the total price.
You pay the rest off on time as part of your AT&amp;T subscription.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255695</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>rjstanford</author>
	<datestamp>1244452740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What?  This is a technology item.  Every year, there'll be an upgrade.  Its going to be a cool upgrade.  It'll cost you money.  You may or may not do it.</p><p>Sorry if any of that came as a surprise...</p><p>Besides, if the iPhone was worth $199 to you, it was worth $199 to you.  Enjoy it.  Nothing that they do now (or even 6 months from now) should change that...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What ?
This is a technology item .
Every year , there 'll be an upgrade .
Its going to be a cool upgrade .
It 'll cost you money .
You may or may not do it.Sorry if any of that came as a surprise...Besides , if the iPhone was worth $ 199 to you , it was worth $ 199 to you .
Enjoy it .
Nothing that they do now ( or even 6 months from now ) should change that.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What?
This is a technology item.
Every year, there'll be an upgrade.
Its going to be a cool upgrade.
It'll cost you money.
You may or may not do it.Sorry if any of that came as a surprise...Besides, if the iPhone was worth $199 to you, it was worth $199 to you.
Enjoy it.
Nothing that they do now (or even 6 months from now) should change that...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255491</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space. I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system, that I prefer not to carry.</p></div><p>Netbooks don't have the profit margins that Apple desires. Simple as that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just do not fully understand Apple 's poo-pooing the netbook space .
I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system , that I prefer not to carry.Netbooks do n't have the profit margins that Apple desires .
Simple as that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just do not fully understand Apple's poo-pooing the netbook space.
I see a Netbook as a supplement to my bigger system, that I prefer not to carry.Netbooks don't have the profit margins that Apple desires.
Simple as that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256637</id>
	<title>Re:Security on auto-locate feature?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your MobileMe creds are your security. Don't give out your pswd and don't set it as redsox or your other favorite team.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your MobileMe creds are your security .
Do n't give out your pswd and do n't set it as redsox or your other favorite team .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your MobileMe creds are your security.
Don't give out your pswd and don't set it as redsox or your other favorite team.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256147</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Estanislao Martínez</author>
	<datestamp>1244454060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable? I don't see that as a major issue. How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?</p></div></blockquote><p>I'll have to take issue with that one.  I had a Powerbook from 2004 to about 2006, and a Macbook Pro from 2006 and ongoing, and in both cases the battery went to hell in less than two years.  Maybe the new battery technology they're using improves this, I don't know, but I really am not inclined to trust them on this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>4 ) The batteries now have way more battery life , which is n't " worsening " the battery situation in my book .
Perhaps you 're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable ?
I do n't see that as a major issue .
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery ? I 'll have to take issue with that one .
I had a Powerbook from 2004 to about 2006 , and a Macbook Pro from 2006 and ongoing , and in both cases the battery went to hell in less than two years .
Maybe the new battery technology they 're using improves this , I do n't know , but I really am not inclined to trust them on this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book.
Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable?
I don't see that as a major issue.
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?I'll have to take issue with that one.
I had a Powerbook from 2004 to about 2006, and a Macbook Pro from 2006 and ongoing, and in both cases the battery went to hell in less than two years.
Maybe the new battery technology they're using improves this, I don't know, but I really am not inclined to trust them on this.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257611</id>
	<title>Re:Why an SD slot, I wonder?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244459460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because the people who pay for the shiny apple and starbucks coffee pay for the fancy Nikons and Canon SLRs that use SD cards instead of CD. I'm also pretty sure that more point and shoot cameras use SD cards instead of CFs. Apple is just continuing to take the pro out of professional and marketing it more towards everyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because the people who pay for the shiny apple and starbucks coffee pay for the fancy Nikons and Canon SLRs that use SD cards instead of CD .
I 'm also pretty sure that more point and shoot cameras use SD cards instead of CFs .
Apple is just continuing to take the pro out of professional and marketing it more towards everyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because the people who pay for the shiny apple and starbucks coffee pay for the fancy Nikons and Canon SLRs that use SD cards instead of CD.
I'm also pretty sure that more point and shoot cameras use SD cards instead of CFs.
Apple is just continuing to take the pro out of professional and marketing it more towards everyone.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260241</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>Wovel</author>
	<datestamp>1244474100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Battery went bad in my Macbook Pro, apple replaced it for free, I am sure they would do the same thing here..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Battery went bad in my Macbook Pro , apple replaced it for free , I am sure they would do the same thing here. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Battery went bad in my Macbook Pro, apple replaced it for free, I am sure they would do the same thing here..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255237</id>
	<title>Iphone 3GS : Yes and No !</title>
	<author>testman123</author>
	<datestamp>1244494620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OS 3.0 features : no surprise as per the beta, ie  = where are the Java support ? the Flash support ? Tethering is fine but is not allowed yet on major operator<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p><p>3GS features : where are the SD port ? the front camera for 3G visual call ? the standard plug port like miniUSB or microUSB ?</p><p>This is still a brillant product, but with new Android phones coming soon (next week ?), I am not sure it will keep contenders far away from the apple's tree.</p><p>The brilliant idea of the keynote : zipcar, just a cool way to rent a car, like the one we have in europe to borrow a public bike (velib, velov <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velib" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velib</a> [wikipedia.org] ). But we don't have remote horn on our iphone app<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Let's wait for iPhone 4.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OS 3.0 features : no surprise as per the beta , ie = where are the Java support ?
the Flash support ?
Tethering is fine but is not allowed yet on major operator : ( 3GS features : where are the SD port ?
the front camera for 3G visual call ?
the standard plug port like miniUSB or microUSB ? This is still a brillant product , but with new Android phones coming soon ( next week ?
) , I am not sure it will keep contenders far away from the apple 's tree.The brilliant idea of the keynote : zipcar , just a cool way to rent a car , like the one we have in europe to borrow a public bike ( velib , velov http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velib [ wikipedia.org ] ) .
But we do n't have remote horn on our iphone app : ) Let 's wait for iPhone 4 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OS 3.0 features : no surprise as per the beta, ie  = where are the Java support ?
the Flash support ?
Tethering is fine but is not allowed yet on major operator :(3GS features : where are the SD port ?
the front camera for 3G visual call ?
the standard plug port like miniUSB or microUSB ?This is still a brillant product, but with new Android phones coming soon (next week ?
), I am not sure it will keep contenders far away from the apple's tree.The brilliant idea of the keynote : zipcar, just a cool way to rent a car, like the one we have in europe to borrow a public bike (velib, velov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velib [wikipedia.org] ).
But we don't have remote horn on our iphone app :)Let's wait for iPhone 4.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255107</id>
	<title>I met Steve a couple years back...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244494320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A couple of years ago, while wandering the library in downtown San Francisco, I had to take a piss. As I entered the john, Steve Jobs -- the messiah himself -- came out of one of the booths. I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he washed his hands. He didn't once look at me. He was busy and in any case I was sure he wouldn't even let me shake his hand.</p><p>As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated, hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still warm from his sturdy ass. I found not only the smell but the shit itself. He'd forgotten to flush. And what a treasure he had left behind. Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl. It apparently had been a fairly dry, constipated shit, for all were fat, stiff, and ruggedly textured. The real prize was a great feast of turd -- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as his cock -- or at least as I imagined it!</p><p>I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me. I'd always been a pc user and had been on the Mac train since last year. Of course I'd had fantasies of meeting him, sucking his cock and balls, not to mention sucking his asshole clean, but I never imagined I would have the chance. Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound turd I'd ever feasted my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of Steve Jobs, the chosen one.</p><p>Why not? I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both hands to keep it from breaking. I lifted it to my nose. It smelled like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had the consistency of cheddar. What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit without the benefit of a digestive tract?</p><p>I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it smelled.</p><p>I hesitated no longer. I shoved the fucking thing as far into my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big half nigger cock, beating my meat like a madman. I wanted to completely engulf it and bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense, bittersweet flavor. To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had chilled the outside of the turd, it was still warm inside. As I chewed I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I soon identified as peanuts. He hadn't chewed them carefully and they'd passed through his body virtually unchanged. I ate it greedily, sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat. My only regret was that Steve Jobs wasn't there to see my loyalty and wash it down with his piss.</p><p>I soon reached a terrific climax. I caught my cum in the cupped palm of my hand and drank it down. Believe me, there is no more delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with the rich bitterness of shit. It's even better than listening to an Jobs speech!</p><p>Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer. But then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me. There was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl. I tenderly fished them out, rolled them into my handkerchief, and stashed them in my briefcase. In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the shit without bolting it right down. Once eaten it's gone forever unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole. Not an unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.</p><p>I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using them but within a week they were all gone. The last one I held in my mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve. I had liquid shit trickling down my throat for nearly four hours. I must have had six orgasms in the process.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple of years ago , while wandering the library in downtown San Francisco , I had to take a piss .
As I entered the john , Steve Jobs -- the messiah himself -- came out of one of the booths .
I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he washed his hands .
He did n't once look at me .
He was busy and in any case I was sure he would n't even let me shake his hand.As soon as he left I darted into the booth he 'd vacated , hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still warm from his sturdy ass .
I found not only the smell but the shit itself .
He 'd forgotten to flush .
And what a treasure he had left behind .
Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl .
It apparently had been a fairly dry , constipated shit , for all were fat , stiff , and ruggedly textured .
The real prize was a great feast of turd -- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as his cock -- or at least as I imagined it ! I knelt before the bowl , inhaling the rich brown fragrance and wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me .
I 'd always been a pc user and had been on the Mac train since last year .
Of course I 'd had fantasies of meeting him , sucking his cock and balls , not to mention sucking his asshole clean , but I never imagined I would have the chance .
Now , here I was , confronted with the most beautiful five-pound turd I 'd ever feasted my eyes on , a sausage fit to star in any fantasy and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of Steve Jobs , the chosen one.Why not ?
I plucked it from the bowl , holding it with both hands to keep it from breaking .
I lifted it to my nose .
It smelled like rich , ripe limburger ( horrid , but thrilling ) , yet had the consistency of cheddar .
What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit without the benefit of a digestive tract ? I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it smelled.I hesitated no longer .
I shoved the fucking thing as far into my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big half nigger cock , beating my meat like a madman .
I wanted to completely engulf it and bit off a large chunk , flooding my mouth with the intense , bittersweet flavor .
To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had chilled the outside of the turd , it was still warm inside .
As I chewed I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I soon identified as peanuts .
He had n't chewed them carefully and they 'd passed through his body virtually unchanged .
I ate it greedily , sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat .
My only regret was that Steve Jobs was n't there to see my loyalty and wash it down with his piss.I soon reached a terrific climax .
I caught my cum in the cupped palm of my hand and drank it down .
Believe me , there is no more delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with the rich bitterness of shit .
It 's even better than listening to an Jobs speech ! Afterwards I was sorry that I had n't made it last longer .
But then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me .
There was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl .
I tenderly fished them out , rolled them into my handkerchief , and stashed them in my briefcase .
In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the shit without bolting it right down .
Once eaten it 's gone forever unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole .
Not an unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using them but within a week they were all gone .
The last one I held in my mouth without chewing , letting it slowly dissolve .
I had liquid shit trickling down my throat for nearly four hours .
I must have had six orgasms in the process .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A couple of years ago, while wandering the library in downtown San Francisco, I had to take a piss.
As I entered the john, Steve Jobs -- the messiah himself -- came out of one of the booths.
I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he washed his hands.
He didn't once look at me.
He was busy and in any case I was sure he wouldn't even let me shake his hand.As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated, hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still warm from his sturdy ass.
I found not only the smell but the shit itself.
He'd forgotten to flush.
And what a treasure he had left behind.
Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl.
It apparently had been a fairly dry, constipated shit, for all were fat, stiff, and ruggedly textured.
The real prize was a great feast of turd -- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as his cock -- or at least as I imagined it!I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me.
I'd always been a pc user and had been on the Mac train since last year.
Of course I'd had fantasies of meeting him, sucking his cock and balls, not to mention sucking his asshole clean, but I never imagined I would have the chance.
Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound turd I'd ever feasted my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of Steve Jobs, the chosen one.Why not?
I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both hands to keep it from breaking.
I lifted it to my nose.
It smelled like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had the consistency of cheddar.
What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit without the benefit of a digestive tract?I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it smelled.I hesitated no longer.
I shoved the fucking thing as far into my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big half nigger cock, beating my meat like a madman.
I wanted to completely engulf it and bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense, bittersweet flavor.
To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had chilled the outside of the turd, it was still warm inside.
As I chewed I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I soon identified as peanuts.
He hadn't chewed them carefully and they'd passed through his body virtually unchanged.
I ate it greedily, sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat.
My only regret was that Steve Jobs wasn't there to see my loyalty and wash it down with his piss.I soon reached a terrific climax.
I caught my cum in the cupped palm of my hand and drank it down.
Believe me, there is no more delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with the rich bitterness of shit.
It's even better than listening to an Jobs speech!Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer.
But then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me.
There was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl.
I tenderly fished them out, rolled them into my handkerchief, and stashed them in my briefcase.
In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the shit without bolting it right down.
Once eaten it's gone forever unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole.
Not an unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using them but within a week they were all gone.
The last one I held in my mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve.
I had liquid shit trickling down my throat for nearly four hours.
I must have had six orgasms in the process.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28265209</id>
	<title>Re:PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook.</title>
	<author>Just Some Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1244560440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs.</p></div><p>I'm in the same boat, although my Mac was nearly a gift so I don't have the same sunk investment as you.  Having said that, the biggest feature of Snow Leopard is that it's optimized for 64-bit, and your Mac and mine are both 32-bit.  I doubt that a 32-bit build (even if it were logistically feasible) would run well on our machines.  While I wish I could play with Snow Leopard, 10.5 isn't going to stop running on release day.  You've already gotten more than 3 years of use from your laptop with no signs of stopping.  That's nothing to sneeze at!</p><p>BTW, iLife '06 is the last version to fully support our Macs.  iLife '08 <a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1010" title="apple.com">requires a G5 or newer</a> [apple.com] for iMovie.  Also, OpenOffice.org 3.1 is <a href="http://download.openoffice.org/other.html" title="openoffice.org">only available for Intel</a> [openoffice.org].  It's not just Apple that's deprecating PowerPC builds.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But the new Mac OS X 10.6 ( Snow Leopard ) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs.I 'm in the same boat , although my Mac was nearly a gift so I do n't have the same sunk investment as you .
Having said that , the biggest feature of Snow Leopard is that it 's optimized for 64-bit , and your Mac and mine are both 32-bit .
I doubt that a 32-bit build ( even if it were logistically feasible ) would run well on our machines .
While I wish I could play with Snow Leopard , 10.5 is n't going to stop running on release day .
You 've already gotten more than 3 years of use from your laptop with no signs of stopping .
That 's nothing to sneeze at ! BTW , iLife '06 is the last version to fully support our Macs .
iLife '08 requires a G5 or newer [ apple.com ] for iMovie .
Also , OpenOffice.org 3.1 is only available for Intel [ openoffice.org ] .
It 's not just Apple that 's deprecating PowerPC builds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard) will be the first that will not run on PowerPC Macs.I'm in the same boat, although my Mac was nearly a gift so I don't have the same sunk investment as you.
Having said that, the biggest feature of Snow Leopard is that it's optimized for 64-bit, and your Mac and mine are both 32-bit.
I doubt that a 32-bit build (even if it were logistically feasible) would run well on our machines.
While I wish I could play with Snow Leopard, 10.5 isn't going to stop running on release day.
You've already gotten more than 3 years of use from your laptop with no signs of stopping.
That's nothing to sneeze at!BTW, iLife '06 is the last version to fully support our Macs.
iLife '08 requires a G5 or newer [apple.com] for iMovie.
Also, OpenOffice.org 3.1 is only available for Intel [openoffice.org].
It's not just Apple that's deprecating PowerPC builds.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256621</id>
	<title>ummm....</title>
	<author>buddyglass</author>
	<datestamp>1244455740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Next up, Safari 4. It is the fastest browser on any platform. And that extends to JavaScript.</p></div></blockquote><p>How about "no"?  That'd be Chrome.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Next up , Safari 4 .
It is the fastest browser on any platform .
And that extends to JavaScript.How about " no " ?
That 'd be Chrome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next up, Safari 4.
It is the fastest browser on any platform.
And that extends to JavaScript.How about "no"?
That'd be Chrome.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256499</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>tyrione</author>
	<datestamp>1244455320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>AC is brain dead for not realizing that All Engineering &amp; Science intensive application suites will leverage OpenCL, across all platforms.</htmltext>
<tokenext>AC is brain dead for not realizing that All Engineering &amp; Science intensive application suites will leverage OpenCL , across all platforms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AC is brain dead for not realizing that All Engineering &amp; Science intensive application suites will leverage OpenCL, across all platforms.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255025</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28260133</id>
	<title>Re:Good update.</title>
	<author>Wovel</author>
	<datestamp>1244473500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The iphone has supported remote Wipe for exchange users since 2.0 (Or whenever exchange was added).  It is nice to see it for everyone else with mobile me.  I believe the iphone is the only phone that offers remote wipe as an option for non-exchange users.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The iphone has supported remote Wipe for exchange users since 2.0 ( Or whenever exchange was added ) .
It is nice to see it for everyone else with mobile me .
I believe the iphone is the only phone that offers remote wipe as an option for non-exchange users .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The iphone has supported remote Wipe for exchange users since 2.0 (Or whenever exchange was added).
It is nice to see it for everyone else with mobile me.
I believe the iphone is the only phone that offers remote wipe as an option for non-exchange users.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258613</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255809</id>
	<title>Re:The whole event was crap.</title>
	<author>Rycross</author>
	<datestamp>1244453040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know more than one geek friend who are starting to feel that the whole Apple-bashing-Microsoft thing is kind-of off-putting.  Even more-so once they started going from advertising-lying to flat-out-lying in their commercials.</p><p>And this is coming from a guy with a Macbook Pro, iPod, and iPhone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know more than one geek friend who are starting to feel that the whole Apple-bashing-Microsoft thing is kind-of off-putting .
Even more-so once they started going from advertising-lying to flat-out-lying in their commercials.And this is coming from a guy with a Macbook Pro , iPod , and iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know more than one geek friend who are starting to feel that the whole Apple-bashing-Microsoft thing is kind-of off-putting.
Even more-so once they started going from advertising-lying to flat-out-lying in their commercials.And this is coming from a guy with a Macbook Pro, iPod, and iPhone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254729</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257027</id>
	<title>Re:PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook.</title>
	<author>lakeland</author>
	<datestamp>1244457240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think ditching PPC for 10.6 was a good call by Apple.</p><p>10.6 does not add many new features that are valuable to you as a PPC user.  10.6 is about consolodating their code-base, getting rid of 32 bit, getting rid of PPC, etc.</p><p>We still get 10.4 updates now and I believe security still happens on 10.3 though I don't follow that.  So no, you won't lose our security patches, upgrades to iLife for quite some time.  I'd guess at least 2 years.</p><p>At the end of the day, there are not that many people who want to run older hardware with the latest software and it's too expensive to base your business around them.  As you've noted, you can continue running on Mac OS 8 (why not 9?), and I expect you can continue to run on 10.5 for a long time to come.  But just as those people running on classic miss out on loads of features, you'll miss out on iLife 10 or 11 and other new software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think ditching PPC for 10.6 was a good call by Apple.10.6 does not add many new features that are valuable to you as a PPC user .
10.6 is about consolodating their code-base , getting rid of 32 bit , getting rid of PPC , etc.We still get 10.4 updates now and I believe security still happens on 10.3 though I do n't follow that .
So no , you wo n't lose our security patches , upgrades to iLife for quite some time .
I 'd guess at least 2 years.At the end of the day , there are not that many people who want to run older hardware with the latest software and it 's too expensive to base your business around them .
As you 've noted , you can continue running on Mac OS 8 ( why not 9 ?
) , and I expect you can continue to run on 10.5 for a long time to come .
But just as those people running on classic miss out on loads of features , you 'll miss out on iLife 10 or 11 and other new software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think ditching PPC for 10.6 was a good call by Apple.10.6 does not add many new features that are valuable to you as a PPC user.
10.6 is about consolodating their code-base, getting rid of 32 bit, getting rid of PPC, etc.We still get 10.4 updates now and I believe security still happens on 10.3 though I don't follow that.
So no, you won't lose our security patches, upgrades to iLife for quite some time.
I'd guess at least 2 years.At the end of the day, there are not that many people who want to run older hardware with the latest software and it's too expensive to base your business around them.
As you've noted, you can continue running on Mac OS 8 (why not 9?
), and I expect you can continue to run on 10.5 for a long time to come.
But just as those people running on classic miss out on loads of features, you'll miss out on iLife 10 or 11 and other new software.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255679</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255305</id>
	<title>Re:Today's news = sad days for new iphone3g owners</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244451600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude, Does the phone you bought at whatever contract you signed still meet your needs?
<br>If not go get anew phone,  Doesn't matter when you buy something there will
<br>allways be something shiny and new around the corner.
<br> <br>Upgrade itus is so f'n stupid</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , Does the phone you bought at whatever contract you signed still meet your needs ?
If not go get anew phone , Does n't matter when you buy something there will allways be something shiny and new around the corner .
Upgrade itus is so f'n stupid</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, Does the phone you bought at whatever contract you signed still meet your needs?
If not go get anew phone,  Doesn't matter when you buy something there will
allways be something shiny and new around the corner.
Upgrade itus is so f'n stupid</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254985</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28263581</id>
	<title>Re:OpenCL != OpenGL</title>
	<author>SimonTheSoundMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244549640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes "studio apps" do.  High quality plugins and for low latency require external DSP processors, CPU's cannot compute the vast amounts of float and real-time calculations.  GPU's on the other hand can.  <br> <br>

The industry choice of tracking software is Avid/Digidesign Pro Tools HD, which requires a Digidesign core system.  The core system is a DSP card that sets you back at minimum &#194;&pound;8,000 for the low end HD2 version.<br> <br>

Now, if Apple's Logic Pro used OpenCL for some audio plugins, Pro Tools will really suffer as it would be hard to justify the &#194;&pound;8k expense of the HD2.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes " studio apps " do .
High quality plugins and for low latency require external DSP processors , CPU 's can not compute the vast amounts of float and real-time calculations .
GPU 's on the other hand can .
The industry choice of tracking software is Avid/Digidesign Pro Tools HD , which requires a Digidesign core system .
The core system is a DSP card that sets you back at minimum     8,000 for the low end HD2 version .
Now , if Apple 's Logic Pro used OpenCL for some audio plugins , Pro Tools will really suffer as it would be hard to justify the     8k expense of the HD2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes "studio apps" do.
High quality plugins and for low latency require external DSP processors, CPU's cannot compute the vast amounts of float and real-time calculations.
GPU's on the other hand can.
The industry choice of tracking software is Avid/Digidesign Pro Tools HD, which requires a Digidesign core system.
The core system is a DSP card that sets you back at minimum Â£8,000 for the low end HD2 version.
Now, if Apple's Logic Pro used OpenCL for some audio plugins, Pro Tools will really suffer as it would be hard to justify the Â£8k expense of the HD2.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255521</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257983</id>
	<title>Re:PowerPC End of Line killing my PowerBook.</title>
	<author>drsmithy</author>
	<datestamp>1244460900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside: Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers. </i>
</p><p>No, they don't.  Even the "Pro" machines only come with a 12 month warranty, and they are notorious for suffen hardware changes without transition periods (eg: ADB to USB, no writable media on the first iMac).  To say nothing of the piddling few years worth of patches and updates you get for an OS X release.
</p><p>Better than PC makers ?  No chance.  They're not even in the same ballpark.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside : Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers .
No , they do n't .
Even the " Pro " machines only come with a 12 month warranty , and they are notorious for suffen hardware changes without transition periods ( eg : ADB to USB , no writable media on the first iMac ) .
To say nothing of the piddling few years worth of patches and updates you get for an OS X release .
Better than PC makers ?
No chance .
They 're not even in the same ballpark .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Another Apple tradition gone by the wayside: Apple has long supported their older hardware better than most PC makers.
No, they don't.
Even the "Pro" machines only come with a 12 month warranty, and they are notorious for suffen hardware changes without transition periods (eg: ADB to USB, no writable media on the first iMac).
To say nothing of the piddling few years worth of patches and updates you get for an OS X release.
Better than PC makers ?
No chance.
They're not even in the same ballpark.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255679</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255015</id>
	<title>Where's my quad-core MBP?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1244494020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Everyone thought it would happen last year. Is it going to happen this year? I will seriously buy a Quad-Core, FW800-equipped MBP, especially if I can get it in a 15". (The 17" form factor has turned out to be slightly cumbersome to transport... not that I have a MBP. My laptop is not TOO much bigger though.) Q9000 dissipates only like 27W TDP, it should be at least doable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone thought it would happen last year .
Is it going to happen this year ?
I will seriously buy a Quad-Core , FW800-equipped MBP , especially if I can get it in a 15 " .
( The 17 " form factor has turned out to be slightly cumbersome to transport... not that I have a MBP .
My laptop is not TOO much bigger though .
) Q9000 dissipates only like 27W TDP , it should be at least doable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone thought it would happen last year.
Is it going to happen this year?
I will seriously buy a Quad-Core, FW800-equipped MBP, especially if I can get it in a 15".
(The 17" form factor has turned out to be slightly cumbersome to transport... not that I have a MBP.
My laptop is not TOO much bigger though.
) Q9000 dissipates only like 27W TDP, it should be at least doable.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28256427</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>frusengladje</author>
	<datestamp>1244455020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an original iPhone, and went through their "check for eligibility" wizard, and it was $199/$299 for the 16/32GB models.  Your "subsidized" 3g buyers still have the better part of 1-2 years on their contracts before they are eligible for a "discount".  That's how the subsidized phones work on ALL carriers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an original iPhone , and went through their " check for eligibility " wizard , and it was $ 199/ $ 299 for the 16/32GB models .
Your " subsidized " 3g buyers still have the better part of 1-2 years on their contracts before they are eligible for a " discount " .
That 's how the subsidized phones work on ALL carriers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an original iPhone, and went through their "check for eligibility" wizard, and it was $199/$299 for the 16/32GB models.
Your "subsidized" 3g buyers still have the better part of 1-2 years on their contracts before they are eligible for a "discount".
That's how the subsidized phones work on ALL carriers.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255229</id>
	<title>m3od down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244494620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">centralized models somet4ing that you</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>centralized models somet4ing that you [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>centralized models somet4ing that you [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255451</id>
	<title>Taco a nullo?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244451960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Did he really cut-off his cock and balls??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did he really cut-off his cock and balls ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did he really cut-off his cock and balls?
?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258681</id>
	<title>Leopard was $129. Snow Leopard priced at $29.</title>
	<author>dsinc</author>
	<datestamp>1244464320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a rather unexpected, albeit very interesting marketing move. It will be interesting to see how well it plays out. I don't think Windows 7, in any incarnation, will be even remotely as affordable as the next version of OS X, due out in September.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a rather unexpected , albeit very interesting marketing move .
It will be interesting to see how well it plays out .
I do n't think Windows 7 , in any incarnation , will be even remotely as affordable as the next version of OS X , due out in September .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a rather unexpected, albeit very interesting marketing move.
It will be interesting to see how well it plays out.
I don't think Windows 7, in any incarnation, will be even remotely as affordable as the next version of OS X, due out in September.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254915</id>
	<title>At $99 the 3G is now relatively mainstream</title>
	<author>toppavak</author>
	<datestamp>1244493660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's always been a bit of a gap between the $100 (low cost) and the $200 (high cost) smartphones, the Pearl vs the 8820 in blackberry land, for example. With a $99 pricetag the 3G (hardware, at least, the data contract is still damned expensive)is now in line with all of the low-end smartphones currently on the market. With Apple taking a 30\% cut on app sales plus a share of the AT&amp;T contract price, it makes sense to push the cost of last generation's hardware down. As much as I and probably a lot of others would love to see a more open platform (Android or Linux, for example) gain ground in the mobile space, this will make it a lot harder to establish a sizable marketshare for the platforms that are more recently emerging into the market.<br> <br>Still, Android has a shot to build (and surpass) the app library of the iPhone by moving bottom up in terms of price-point. A large number of low to midrange phones running Android could give the platform the customer base it needs to support a large development community which would in turn help build the platform's maturity eventually leading to advanced smartphones with a large and diverse assortment of apps available. This would be almost the reverse of how the iPhone platform grew: starting out as a premium hardware and service, now working down to cheaper hardware to leverage growing revenue streams from a large app library and contracts from the installed (and growing) base. Philosophically and practically (monoculture is typically a bad thing) I would love to see Android succeed on a large scale in the marketplace but as much as I often disagree with Apple's stylistic choices and UI design I have to give kudos for how well they've executed the iPhone and app store as a business.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's always been a bit of a gap between the $ 100 ( low cost ) and the $ 200 ( high cost ) smartphones , the Pearl vs the 8820 in blackberry land , for example .
With a $ 99 pricetag the 3G ( hardware , at least , the data contract is still damned expensive ) is now in line with all of the low-end smartphones currently on the market .
With Apple taking a 30 \ % cut on app sales plus a share of the AT&amp;T contract price , it makes sense to push the cost of last generation 's hardware down .
As much as I and probably a lot of others would love to see a more open platform ( Android or Linux , for example ) gain ground in the mobile space , this will make it a lot harder to establish a sizable marketshare for the platforms that are more recently emerging into the market .
Still , Android has a shot to build ( and surpass ) the app library of the iPhone by moving bottom up in terms of price-point .
A large number of low to midrange phones running Android could give the platform the customer base it needs to support a large development community which would in turn help build the platform 's maturity eventually leading to advanced smartphones with a large and diverse assortment of apps available .
This would be almost the reverse of how the iPhone platform grew : starting out as a premium hardware and service , now working down to cheaper hardware to leverage growing revenue streams from a large app library and contracts from the installed ( and growing ) base .
Philosophically and practically ( monoculture is typically a bad thing ) I would love to see Android succeed on a large scale in the marketplace but as much as I often disagree with Apple 's stylistic choices and UI design I have to give kudos for how well they 've executed the iPhone and app store as a business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's always been a bit of a gap between the $100 (low cost) and the $200 (high cost) smartphones, the Pearl vs the 8820 in blackberry land, for example.
With a $99 pricetag the 3G (hardware, at least, the data contract is still damned expensive)is now in line with all of the low-end smartphones currently on the market.
With Apple taking a 30\% cut on app sales plus a share of the AT&amp;T contract price, it makes sense to push the cost of last generation's hardware down.
As much as I and probably a lot of others would love to see a more open platform (Android or Linux, for example) gain ground in the mobile space, this will make it a lot harder to establish a sizable marketshare for the platforms that are more recently emerging into the market.
Still, Android has a shot to build (and surpass) the app library of the iPhone by moving bottom up in terms of price-point.
A large number of low to midrange phones running Android could give the platform the customer base it needs to support a large development community which would in turn help build the platform's maturity eventually leading to advanced smartphones with a large and diverse assortment of apps available.
This would be almost the reverse of how the iPhone platform grew: starting out as a premium hardware and service, now working down to cheaper hardware to leverage growing revenue streams from a large app library and contracts from the installed (and growing) base.
Philosophically and practically (monoculture is typically a bad thing) I would love to see Android succeed on a large scale in the marketplace but as much as I often disagree with Apple's stylistic choices and UI design I have to give kudos for how well they've executed the iPhone and app store as a business.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257645</id>
	<title>Re:Macbook pro</title>
	<author>justcauseisjustthat</author>
	<datestamp>1244459580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why not have an express card slot with a pre-installed SD card reader,  take out the sd card reader and you still have a power user option. eSATA, another FW800 or two ports, PCI(e) expansion chasis, etc....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not have an express card slot with a pre-installed SD card reader , take out the sd card reader and you still have a power user option .
eSATA , another FW800 or two ports , PCI ( e ) expansion chasis , etc... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not have an express card slot with a pre-installed SD card reader,  take out the sd card reader and you still have a power user option.
eSATA, another FW800 or two ports, PCI(e) expansion chasis, etc....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257515</id>
	<title>Re:Think "development and setup costs"</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1244459100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I'm betting that the 16GB model is just the 32GB model with an empty spot where the additional flash RAM would be.  It doesn't really cost much to *not* install a chip, so the majority of the savings would be on the chips themselves which, as the GP said, is a marginal cost.  I'm guessing that either the 16GB models are loss leaders, or else damn close to being sold at cost.  It would be interesting to see sales figures for the two models, though we probably never will.</p><p>Regardless, charging 50\% more for 16GB of flash is just insulting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I 'm betting that the 16GB model is just the 32GB model with an empty spot where the additional flash RAM would be .
It does n't really cost much to * not * install a chip , so the majority of the savings would be on the chips themselves which , as the GP said , is a marginal cost .
I 'm guessing that either the 16GB models are loss leaders , or else damn close to being sold at cost .
It would be interesting to see sales figures for the two models , though we probably never will.Regardless , charging 50 \ % more for 16GB of flash is just insulting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I'm betting that the 16GB model is just the 32GB model with an empty spot where the additional flash RAM would be.
It doesn't really cost much to *not* install a chip, so the majority of the savings would be on the chips themselves which, as the GP said, is a marginal cost.
I'm guessing that either the 16GB models are loss leaders, or else damn close to being sold at cost.
It would be interesting to see sales figures for the two models, though we probably never will.Regardless, charging 50\% more for 16GB of flash is just insulting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262637</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>MojoStan</author>
	<datestamp>1244538120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'll have to take issue with that one. I had a Powerbook from 2004 to about 2006, and a Macbook Pro from 2006 and ongoing, and in both cases the battery went to hell in less than two years. Maybe the new battery technology they're using improves this, I don't know, but I really am not inclined to trust them on this.</p></div><p>Apple's <a href="http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/battery/" title="apple.com">"new battery" page</a> [apple.com] claims that "advanced chemistry and an innovative new charging method" will alllow "up to 1000 recharges before it reaches 80 percent of its original capacity -- nearly three times the lifespan of typical notebook batteries."
</p><p>
Having seen outlandish Apple claims in the past, I'm not incilned to trust them until someone actually recharges their MacBook Pro 1000 times and gets close to 80 percent of original capacity (and gets close to Apple's claimed 8-hour battery life in typical use).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll have to take issue with that one .
I had a Powerbook from 2004 to about 2006 , and a Macbook Pro from 2006 and ongoing , and in both cases the battery went to hell in less than two years .
Maybe the new battery technology they 're using improves this , I do n't know , but I really am not inclined to trust them on this.Apple 's " new battery " page [ apple.com ] claims that " advanced chemistry and an innovative new charging method " will alllow " up to 1000 recharges before it reaches 80 percent of its original capacity -- nearly three times the lifespan of typical notebook batteries .
" Having seen outlandish Apple claims in the past , I 'm not incilned to trust them until someone actually recharges their MacBook Pro 1000 times and gets close to 80 percent of original capacity ( and gets close to Apple 's claimed 8-hour battery life in typical use ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll have to take issue with that one.
I had a Powerbook from 2004 to about 2006, and a Macbook Pro from 2006 and ongoing, and in both cases the battery went to hell in less than two years.
Maybe the new battery technology they're using improves this, I don't know, but I really am not inclined to trust them on this.Apple's "new battery" page [apple.com] claims that "advanced chemistry and an innovative new charging method" will alllow "up to 1000 recharges before it reaches 80 percent of its original capacity -- nearly three times the lifespan of typical notebook batteries.
"

Having seen outlandish Apple claims in the past, I'm not incilned to trust them until someone actually recharges their MacBook Pro 1000 times and gets close to 80 percent of original capacity (and gets close to Apple's claimed 8-hour battery life in typical use).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258035</id>
	<title>Re:Tethering lawsuit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244461080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Last I checked, Canada was still in North America, and Rogers, the Canadian iPhone mobile provider, was on the slide of those supporting tethering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Last I checked , Canada was still in North America , and Rogers , the Canadian iPhone mobile provider , was on the slide of those supporting tethering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Last I checked, Canada was still in North America, and Rogers, the Canadian iPhone mobile provider, was on the slide of those supporting tethering.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258373</id>
	<title>Re:Security on auto-locate feature?</title>
	<author>Turken</author>
	<datestamp>1244462700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure, you're fine as long as you don't share your password or have an easily guessed one, but I'm still not completely comfortable about the idea.  My wife and I know most of each others passwords, so what would keep her from using the service to send an urgent ring to interrupt whatever I'm doing for whatever she thinks is important?</p><p>Or in the case of wiping someone else's device... consider all the kids running around these days with tricked out iphones (and what are they doing with them anyway? <i>we</i> didn't have <i>any</i> sort of cellphones when we were that age) that could easily root out their friends' credentials by one means or another.</p><p>Yeah, I don't expect wide scale hacking of the service by strangers, but the potential for griefing among peers or interruptions from family is certainly something I'm not looking forward to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure , you 're fine as long as you do n't share your password or have an easily guessed one , but I 'm still not completely comfortable about the idea .
My wife and I know most of each others passwords , so what would keep her from using the service to send an urgent ring to interrupt whatever I 'm doing for whatever she thinks is important ? Or in the case of wiping someone else 's device... consider all the kids running around these days with tricked out iphones ( and what are they doing with them anyway ?
we did n't have any sort of cellphones when we were that age ) that could easily root out their friends ' credentials by one means or another.Yeah , I do n't expect wide scale hacking of the service by strangers , but the potential for griefing among peers or interruptions from family is certainly something I 'm not looking forward to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure, you're fine as long as you don't share your password or have an easily guessed one, but I'm still not completely comfortable about the idea.
My wife and I know most of each others passwords, so what would keep her from using the service to send an urgent ring to interrupt whatever I'm doing for whatever she thinks is important?Or in the case of wiping someone else's device... consider all the kids running around these days with tricked out iphones (and what are they doing with them anyway?
we didn't have any sort of cellphones when we were that age) that could easily root out their friends' credentials by one means or another.Yeah, I don't expect wide scale hacking of the service by strangers, but the potential for griefing among peers or interruptions from family is certainly something I'm not looking forward to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255663</id>
	<title>the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>stevenj</author>
	<datestamp>1244452620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was dismayed to see this old canard in Apple's <a href="http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/#sixtyfourbit" title="apple.com">MacOS Snow Leopard technology summary</a> [apple.com]<blockquote><div><p>64-bit computing [...] enables computers to process twice the number of instructions per clock cycle, which can dramatically speed up numeric calculations and other tasks.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

Haven't people learned by now that this is total BS?  64-bit addressing is independent of instructions per cycle, bus width, or anything like that.  (Of course, newer 64-bit systems may be happen to be faster for other, unrelated reasons.) The old "64-bit is twice as fast as 32-bit" is a line of hooey that has been sold to the public for years now (I recall it gaining prominence when Intel started promoting its Itanium plans), but I thought it was finally dying out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was dismayed to see this old canard in Apple 's MacOS Snow Leopard technology summary [ apple.com ] 64-bit computing [ ... ] enables computers to process twice the number of instructions per clock cycle , which can dramatically speed up numeric calculations and other tasks .
Have n't people learned by now that this is total BS ?
64-bit addressing is independent of instructions per cycle , bus width , or anything like that .
( Of course , newer 64-bit systems may be happen to be faster for other , unrelated reasons .
) The old " 64-bit is twice as fast as 32-bit " is a line of hooey that has been sold to the public for years now ( I recall it gaining prominence when Intel started promoting its Itanium plans ) , but I thought it was finally dying out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was dismayed to see this old canard in Apple's MacOS Snow Leopard technology summary [apple.com]64-bit computing [...] enables computers to process twice the number of instructions per clock cycle, which can dramatically speed up numeric calculations and other tasks.
Haven't people learned by now that this is total BS?
64-bit addressing is independent of instructions per cycle, bus width, or anything like that.
(Of course, newer 64-bit systems may be happen to be faster for other, unrelated reasons.
) The old "64-bit is twice as fast as 32-bit" is a line of hooey that has been sold to the public for years now (I recall it gaining prominence when Intel started promoting its Itanium plans), but I thought it was finally dying out.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262575</id>
	<title>Re:iPhone fine print</title>
	<author>drew</author>
	<datestamp>1244580480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your two years doesn't even have to be all the way up to sign up for a new one.  I don't know exactly what their cut off is, though.  I've known people who got new phones and contracts with six months remaining on their previous contract.  I've heard of people who have done it with a year still remaining on the previous contract with a little bit of negotiation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your two years does n't even have to be all the way up to sign up for a new one .
I do n't know exactly what their cut off is , though .
I 've known people who got new phones and contracts with six months remaining on their previous contract .
I 've heard of people who have done it with a year still remaining on the previous contract with a little bit of negotiation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your two years doesn't even have to be all the way up to sign up for a new one.
I don't know exactly what their cut off is, though.
I've known people who got new phones and contracts with six months remaining on their previous contract.
I've heard of people who have done it with a year still remaining on the previous contract with a little bit of negotiation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28254885</id>
	<title>No video conferencing then?</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1244493540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only a 3 megapixel camera? Decent lens? Light source for indoor? 480/320 screen?</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only a 3 megapixel camera ?
Decent lens ?
Light source for indoor ?
480/320 screen ?
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only a 3 megapixel camera?
Decent lens?
Light source for indoor?
480/320 screen?
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28264637</id>
	<title>Re:Think "development and setup costs"</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1244557800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But surely, all I do is upgrade my 16GB model by plugging in a bigger memory card, right? No need to rely on buying the latest top model which would be expensive for the reasons you give, I just need to buy a new card for my old phone. The Iphone is the best phone ever, so surely it does this like every other phone on the planet, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But surely , all I do is upgrade my 16GB model by plugging in a bigger memory card , right ?
No need to rely on buying the latest top model which would be expensive for the reasons you give , I just need to buy a new card for my old phone .
The Iphone is the best phone ever , so surely it does this like every other phone on the planet , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But surely, all I do is upgrade my 16GB model by plugging in a bigger memory card, right?
No need to rely on buying the latest top model which would be expensive for the reasons you give, I just need to buy a new card for my old phone.
The Iphone is the best phone ever, so surely it does this like every other phone on the planet, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257531</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244459160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes and no...</p><p>If you are in reference to traditional Apple's idea of 64bit, it is all about address space.</p><p>However in outside of Apple world, 64bit means several things beyond just address space.</p><p>1) 64bit chunks of computations instead of 32bit chunks. So the data being 'computed' is in native 64bit chunks - and in theory could be twice as fast in an optimal pass.</p><p>2) 64bit CPU features - more registers, other AMD64/EMT64 features</p><p>3) Combined memory read writes, for example in Vista x64 when a 32bit application is reading or writing to RAM the OS can often combine two 32bit read/writes into ONE 64bit read/write, thus speeding up RAM access.</p><p>The problem with OS X and 64bit is that it hasn't been a 64bit OS, and the only 64bit features OS X has offered was the 64bit address space instead of all the 64bit features of the CPU.</p><p>If the kernel is 'fully' 64bit in Snow Leopard (which it looks NOT to be) it would be faster for OS level operations and application handling. Vista x64 often is much faster than Vista x32 even when running 32bit applications because the OS does take advantage of the 64bit CPUs natively.</p><p>So from OS X point of view, 64bit computing has only been about more address space. But in the non-OS X world, from Linux 64bit to Vista 64bit, the OS actually uses other features of the CPU and calculates in full 64bit chunks thus computing more data faster.</p><p>You are right that 64bit is not going to be twice as fast as 32bit, just like 32bit wasn't twice as fast as 16bit computing. In fact, most 16bit applications took a slight hit when moving to 32bit processors. It was the 'other' features of the 32bit processors that made them a huge jump, like the pre-emptive scheduler. This is also true of the 32bit to 64bit move.</p><p>There are a few 'features' in the 64bit processors, but nothing like the jump from 16bit to 32bit in the x86 timeframe. One feature is the memory access mode (beyond address spacing), but in terms of performance, it is not a big leap.</p><p>The best 64bit performance bang is in how 64bit OSes are using the extra 'space' and 'modes' to get things done, like the Vista example of shoving two memory read/writes into one operation and removal of table linking for dealing with File Systems and even kernel level mapping tables that no longer have to link into 32bit spaces and can just natively use a singe 64bit addressing table. These are modest gains, though.</p><p>True 64bit optimized applications can jump 50\% over the same 32bit application, if they are big data crunching applications, like 3D modeling, photo editors, encoders, etc. Having twice the bits to shove data through the CPU does make a difference, and by a lot depending on the application.</p><p>OS X doesn't offer this to its 64bit applications because it thunks the processing and is only giving the application a 64bit address space, so on OS X, a 64bit application will ONLY speed up if it is using more than 4GB of RAM (approx).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes and no...If you are in reference to traditional Apple 's idea of 64bit , it is all about address space.However in outside of Apple world , 64bit means several things beyond just address space.1 ) 64bit chunks of computations instead of 32bit chunks .
So the data being 'computed ' is in native 64bit chunks - and in theory could be twice as fast in an optimal pass.2 ) 64bit CPU features - more registers , other AMD64/EMT64 features3 ) Combined memory read writes , for example in Vista x64 when a 32bit application is reading or writing to RAM the OS can often combine two 32bit read/writes into ONE 64bit read/write , thus speeding up RAM access.The problem with OS X and 64bit is that it has n't been a 64bit OS , and the only 64bit features OS X has offered was the 64bit address space instead of all the 64bit features of the CPU.If the kernel is 'fully ' 64bit in Snow Leopard ( which it looks NOT to be ) it would be faster for OS level operations and application handling .
Vista x64 often is much faster than Vista x32 even when running 32bit applications because the OS does take advantage of the 64bit CPUs natively.So from OS X point of view , 64bit computing has only been about more address space .
But in the non-OS X world , from Linux 64bit to Vista 64bit , the OS actually uses other features of the CPU and calculates in full 64bit chunks thus computing more data faster.You are right that 64bit is not going to be twice as fast as 32bit , just like 32bit was n't twice as fast as 16bit computing .
In fact , most 16bit applications took a slight hit when moving to 32bit processors .
It was the 'other ' features of the 32bit processors that made them a huge jump , like the pre-emptive scheduler .
This is also true of the 32bit to 64bit move.There are a few 'features ' in the 64bit processors , but nothing like the jump from 16bit to 32bit in the x86 timeframe .
One feature is the memory access mode ( beyond address spacing ) , but in terms of performance , it is not a big leap.The best 64bit performance bang is in how 64bit OSes are using the extra 'space ' and 'modes ' to get things done , like the Vista example of shoving two memory read/writes into one operation and removal of table linking for dealing with File Systems and even kernel level mapping tables that no longer have to link into 32bit spaces and can just natively use a singe 64bit addressing table .
These are modest gains , though.True 64bit optimized applications can jump 50 \ % over the same 32bit application , if they are big data crunching applications , like 3D modeling , photo editors , encoders , etc .
Having twice the bits to shove data through the CPU does make a difference , and by a lot depending on the application.OS X does n't offer this to its 64bit applications because it thunks the processing and is only giving the application a 64bit address space , so on OS X , a 64bit application will ONLY speed up if it is using more than 4GB of RAM ( approx ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes and no...If you are in reference to traditional Apple's idea of 64bit, it is all about address space.However in outside of Apple world, 64bit means several things beyond just address space.1) 64bit chunks of computations instead of 32bit chunks.
So the data being 'computed' is in native 64bit chunks - and in theory could be twice as fast in an optimal pass.2) 64bit CPU features - more registers, other AMD64/EMT64 features3) Combined memory read writes, for example in Vista x64 when a 32bit application is reading or writing to RAM the OS can often combine two 32bit read/writes into ONE 64bit read/write, thus speeding up RAM access.The problem with OS X and 64bit is that it hasn't been a 64bit OS, and the only 64bit features OS X has offered was the 64bit address space instead of all the 64bit features of the CPU.If the kernel is 'fully' 64bit in Snow Leopard (which it looks NOT to be) it would be faster for OS level operations and application handling.
Vista x64 often is much faster than Vista x32 even when running 32bit applications because the OS does take advantage of the 64bit CPUs natively.So from OS X point of view, 64bit computing has only been about more address space.
But in the non-OS X world, from Linux 64bit to Vista 64bit, the OS actually uses other features of the CPU and calculates in full 64bit chunks thus computing more data faster.You are right that 64bit is not going to be twice as fast as 32bit, just like 32bit wasn't twice as fast as 16bit computing.
In fact, most 16bit applications took a slight hit when moving to 32bit processors.
It was the 'other' features of the 32bit processors that made them a huge jump, like the pre-emptive scheduler.
This is also true of the 32bit to 64bit move.There are a few 'features' in the 64bit processors, but nothing like the jump from 16bit to 32bit in the x86 timeframe.
One feature is the memory access mode (beyond address spacing), but in terms of performance, it is not a big leap.The best 64bit performance bang is in how 64bit OSes are using the extra 'space' and 'modes' to get things done, like the Vista example of shoving two memory read/writes into one operation and removal of table linking for dealing with File Systems and even kernel level mapping tables that no longer have to link into 32bit spaces and can just natively use a singe 64bit addressing table.
These are modest gains, though.True 64bit optimized applications can jump 50\% over the same 32bit application, if they are big data crunching applications, like 3D modeling, photo editors, encoders, etc.
Having twice the bits to shove data through the CPU does make a difference, and by a lot depending on the application.OS X doesn't offer this to its 64bit applications because it thunks the processing and is only giving the application a 64bit address space, so on OS X, a 64bit application will ONLY speed up if it is using more than 4GB of RAM (approx).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257747</id>
	<title>Re:To bulky, also old school</title>
	<author>Achromatic1978</author>
	<datestamp>1244459940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What are you on about? Digital backs don't use SD cards. Canon's 1 and 5 series offer SD cards concurrently with CF, primarily for the ability to write a RAW to the CF, and JPG to the SD for quick preview by an assistant, etc.<p>
CF is not on the way out for any pro gear that I've read about in the last year, unless you're reading something that the rest of us aren't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What are you on about ?
Digital backs do n't use SD cards .
Canon 's 1 and 5 series offer SD cards concurrently with CF , primarily for the ability to write a RAW to the CF , and JPG to the SD for quick preview by an assistant , etc .
CF is not on the way out for any pro gear that I 've read about in the last year , unless you 're reading something that the rest of us are n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What are you on about?
Digital backs don't use SD cards.
Canon's 1 and 5 series offer SD cards concurrently with CF, primarily for the ability to write a RAW to the CF, and JPG to the SD for quick preview by an assistant, etc.
CF is not on the way out for any pro gear that I've read about in the last year, unless you're reading something that the rest of us aren't.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28257381</id>
	<title>Re:the usual BS about 64-bit</title>
	<author>tyrione</author>
	<datestamp>1244458680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Part of this BS was due to the fact that filesystems were being run as 64 bit with 32 bit kernels typically on a single CPU/core of a Multi-core CPU.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of this BS was due to the fact that filesystems were being run as 64 bit with 32 bit kernels typically on a single CPU/core of a Multi-core CPU .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of this BS was due to the fact that filesystems were being run as 64 bit with 32 bit kernels typically on a single CPU/core of a Multi-core CPU.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255663</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28262163</id>
	<title>Re:Think "development and setup costs"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244489220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that sounded almost plausible except that flash chips are interchangable, for precisely that reason</p><p>it is exactly this difficult to change their assembly line from 32GB to 16GB:</p><p>(1) toss a bag of 16GB chips in the hopper</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that sounded almost plausible except that flash chips are interchangable , for precisely that reasonit is exactly this difficult to change their assembly line from 32GB to 16GB : ( 1 ) toss a bag of 16GB chips in the hopper</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that sounded almost plausible except that flash chips are interchangable, for precisely that reasonit is exactly this difficult to change their assembly line from 32GB to 16GB:(1) toss a bag of 16GB chips in the hopper</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28258223</id>
	<title>Re:-1 Troll</title>
	<author>smallfries</author>
	<datestamp>1244461980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book. Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable? I don't see that as a major issue. How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, my first one died after 13 months. I'm hoping the second lasts a bit longer. My experience would put me off upgrading to a system where I can't take the battery out.</p><p>Shame really, as the 7 or 8hrs on the new systems looks awesome. Especially as they've changed their measurement technique so that is 7 or 8 hours with wifi and realistic usage. I can squeeze 5hrs out of my Santa Rosa Macbook pro with the wifi off working in a shell with vim...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>4 ) The batteries now have way more battery life , which is n't " worsening " the battery situation in my book .
Perhaps you 're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable ?
I do n't see that as a major issue .
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery ? Well , my first one died after 13 months .
I 'm hoping the second lasts a bit longer .
My experience would put me off upgrading to a system where I ca n't take the battery out.Shame really , as the 7 or 8hrs on the new systems looks awesome .
Especially as they 've changed their measurement technique so that is 7 or 8 hours with wifi and realistic usage .
I can squeeze 5hrs out of my Santa Rosa Macbook pro with the wifi off working in a shell with vim.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>4) The batteries now have way more battery life, which isn't "worsening" the battery situation in my book.
Perhaps you're referring to the fact that the battery is not removable?
I don't see that as a major issue.
How often does a MacBook Pro user replace their battery?Well, my first one died after 13 months.
I'm hoping the second lasts a bit longer.
My experience would put me off upgrading to a system where I can't take the battery out.Shame really, as the 7 or 8hrs on the new systems looks awesome.
Especially as they've changed their measurement technique so that is 7 or 8 hours with wifi and realistic usage.
I can squeeze 5hrs out of my Santa Rosa Macbook pro with the wifi off working in a shell with vim...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255851</id>
	<title>Actually Yes, there is OpenGL ES 2.0 support</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1244453160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the slides in the keynote mentioned Open GL ES 2.0 specifically.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the slides in the keynote mentioned Open GL ES 2.0 specifically .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the slides in the keynote mentioned Open GL ES 2.0 specifically.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255403</id>
	<title>Re:So no iPod Touch refresh?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244451840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Touch had the fastest processor of them all up to today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Touch had the fastest processor of them all up to today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Touch had the fastest processor of them all up to today.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_08_197202.28255117</id>
	<title>AND NO ZFS in Leopard server</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244494320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/technology/file-system.html<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.apple.com/server/macosx/technology/file-system.html : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/technology/file-system.html :(</sentencetext>
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