<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_07_1517215</id>
	<title>How Do You Greet an Extraterrestrial?</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1244390700000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>The LA Times is running a story about Earth Speaks, a companion project to SETI, which focuses on <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-aliens7-2009jun07,0,500345.story">how we would communicate with intelligent extraterrestrial life</a>, should we happen to discover it. Far more effort has been devoted to searching for signals or a means to communicate than the question of what we might say once contact is established, and the folks at SETI have set up <a href="http://earthspeaks.seti.org/pages/About">a website to gather opinions</a> on what the best questions and statements are. "So far, the messages break down into a few distinct categories. Some people want to throw a block party to welcome the aliens to the neighborhood. Others, less trusting, would warn the aliens that we've got guns and know how to use them. Another group, possibly influenced by having seen too many movies, would have us hide under the bed until they go away. 'If we discover intelligent life beyond Earth, we should not reply &mdash; we should freeze and play dead,' wrote one contributor." What would you say first to an alien?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The LA Times is running a story about Earth Speaks , a companion project to SETI , which focuses on how we would communicate with intelligent extraterrestrial life , should we happen to discover it .
Far more effort has been devoted to searching for signals or a means to communicate than the question of what we might say once contact is established , and the folks at SETI have set up a website to gather opinions on what the best questions and statements are .
" So far , the messages break down into a few distinct categories .
Some people want to throw a block party to welcome the aliens to the neighborhood .
Others , less trusting , would warn the aliens that we 've got guns and know how to use them .
Another group , possibly influenced by having seen too many movies , would have us hide under the bed until they go away .
'If we discover intelligent life beyond Earth , we should not reply    we should freeze and play dead, ' wrote one contributor .
" What would you say first to an alien ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The LA Times is running a story about Earth Speaks, a companion project to SETI, which focuses on how we would communicate with intelligent extraterrestrial life, should we happen to discover it.
Far more effort has been devoted to searching for signals or a means to communicate than the question of what we might say once contact is established, and the folks at SETI have set up a website to gather opinions on what the best questions and statements are.
"So far, the messages break down into a few distinct categories.
Some people want to throw a block party to welcome the aliens to the neighborhood.
Others, less trusting, would warn the aliens that we've got guns and know how to use them.
Another group, possibly influenced by having seen too many movies, would have us hide under the bed until they go away.
'If we discover intelligent life beyond Earth, we should not reply — we should freeze and play dead,' wrote one contributor.
" What would you say first to an alien?</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243693</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244365620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;'...If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war.  Demand commitments to peace<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...'<br>WHY?<br>Why such a bias towards conflict/aggression? Preparing for war is hardly a commitment to peace.  The fears that color your assumptions woudl certainly color any interaction and set a similar tone.<br>What if the visitors entire population needed only 1 square mile or habitat?  What if the visitors consumed (and rendered harmless) vast quantities of fission by-products, CFC, mercury, Carbon monoxide, dioxin, and arsnic? What is their waste products were containerized gasonline, liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen (all separate of course)?</p><p>Your plan is easy to rally around, yet short sighted.  In the event of alien visitors, a better option than the illusion of thoughtful consideration would be actual thoughtful consideration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; '...If they do seem interested in colonization , prepare for war .
Demand commitments to peace ...'WHY ? Why such a bias towards conflict/aggression ?
Preparing for war is hardly a commitment to peace .
The fears that color your assumptions woudl certainly color any interaction and set a similar tone.What if the visitors entire population needed only 1 square mile or habitat ?
What if the visitors consumed ( and rendered harmless ) vast quantities of fission by-products , CFC , mercury , Carbon monoxide , dioxin , and arsnic ?
What is their waste products were containerized gasonline , liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen ( all separate of course ) ? Your plan is easy to rally around , yet short sighted .
In the event of alien visitors , a better option than the illusion of thoughtful consideration would be actual thoughtful consideration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;'...If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war.
Demand commitments to peace ...'WHY?Why such a bias towards conflict/aggression?
Preparing for war is hardly a commitment to peace.
The fears that color your assumptions woudl certainly color any interaction and set a similar tone.What if the visitors entire population needed only 1 square mile or habitat?
What if the visitors consumed (and rendered harmless) vast quantities of fission by-products, CFC, mercury, Carbon monoxide, dioxin, and arsnic?
What is their waste products were containerized gasonline, liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen (all separate of course)?Your plan is easy to rally around, yet short sighted.
In the event of alien visitors, a better option than the illusion of thoughtful consideration would be actual thoughtful consideration.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28253221</id>
	<title>Too easy...</title>
	<author>MoeDrippins</author>
	<datestamp>1244486460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Come Get Some"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Come Get Some "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Come Get Some"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242227</id>
	<title>My greeting...</title>
	<author>tekiegreg</author>
	<datestamp>1244397840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi, Beer's in the Fridge, bathroom's over there, enjoy your stay...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi , Beer 's in the Fridge , bathroom 's over there , enjoy your stay.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi, Beer's in the Fridge, bathroom's over there, enjoy your stay...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243015</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>DaFallus</author>
	<datestamp>1244403720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation. We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history. Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show. Given time, this can be relaxed. If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war. Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that, if broken deliberately, will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking. But if this should occur, act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline. Conversely, if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge, be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars, and let the borders be opened slowly. Control their perception of us, so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with, rather than merely subjugate.</p></div></blockquote><p>

And if that fails, we can try giving them some <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort\_Pitt\_(Pennsylvania)" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">blankets.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation .
We should greet others firmly , while revealing little of our own cultures and history .
Be respectful , and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show .
Given time , this can be relaxed .
If they do seem interested in colonization , prepare for war .
Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that , if broken deliberately , will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking .
But if this should occur , act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline .
Conversely , if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge , be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars , and let the borders be opened slowly .
Control their perception of us , so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with , rather than merely subjugate .
And if that fails , we can try giving them some blankets .
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation.
We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history.
Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.
Given time, this can be relaxed.
If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war.
Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that, if broken deliberately, will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking.
But if this should occur, act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline.
Conversely, if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge, be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars, and let the borders be opened slowly.
Control their perception of us, so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with, rather than merely subjugate.
And if that fails, we can try giving them some blankets.
[wikipedia.org]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243585</id>
	<title>Obviously...</title>
	<author>blitz487</author>
	<datestamp>1244407920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Take me to your leader."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Take me to your leader .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Take me to your leader.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243107</id>
	<title>Re:First...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244404380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It might be too late for that.  Monty Python's "The Galaxy Song" summed it up best.  "And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,<br>'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It might be too late for that .
Monty Python 's " The Galaxy Song " summed it up best .
" And pray that there 's intelligent life somewhere up in space,'Cause there 's bugger all down here on Earth .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It might be too late for that.
Monty Python's "The Galaxy Song" summed it up best.
"And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241927</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249645</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>skiman1979</author>
	<datestamp>1244468160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps the answer to reaching the next star is not trying to cover that distance at a higher rate of speed, but lowering the effective distance between us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps the answer to reaching the next star is not trying to cover that distance at a higher rate of speed , but lowering the effective distance between us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps the answer to reaching the next star is not trying to cover that distance at a higher rate of speed, but lowering the effective distance between us.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244319</id>
	<title>Mars needs women, slashdot too..</title>
	<author>ae1294</author>
	<datestamp>1244371140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I find interesting and mostly overlooked about this topic is that people <b>expect</b> alien's to have devolved technology in the same manner and order as we have.</p><p>One example, People always say that any race that can cover the vast 'sorta' emptiness of space would be smarter than us by default. That is assuming that they, the alien's, didn't stumble upon 'Faster Than Light' travel at the same time they where working on something that would have seemed totally unrelated. If you look at some of the greatest breakthroughs here on earth you will often times see that people stumble upon them purely by accidental while working on totally unrelated stuff.</p><p>I would wager that, when we do meet some aliens, we will discover that we have some advanced technologies THEY don't (porn, novel ways to kill each other, Windows 7, batman, etc) just as they have some we don't. (Robotic sex slaves, FTL drives, novel ways to make popcorn, etc) I think it will, at least at first, lead to a "you show us yours and we're show you ours" type of friendliness but who knows if that will last once the (MP/RI)AA gets involved.</p><p>Two truely smart races would combine technologies freely as the universe is so damn huge it's not like there isn't room. Here on earth we are use to fighting over resources but in space you have trillions of empty planets, moons, etc so really there is no reason to fight over much of anything unless your race has 3.2453x10^10000000000000000 members... And even then to fight risks loosing what you already have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find interesting and mostly overlooked about this topic is that people expect alien 's to have devolved technology in the same manner and order as we have.One example , People always say that any race that can cover the vast 'sorta ' emptiness of space would be smarter than us by default .
That is assuming that they , the alien 's , did n't stumble upon 'Faster Than Light ' travel at the same time they where working on something that would have seemed totally unrelated .
If you look at some of the greatest breakthroughs here on earth you will often times see that people stumble upon them purely by accidental while working on totally unrelated stuff.I would wager that , when we do meet some aliens , we will discover that we have some advanced technologies THEY do n't ( porn , novel ways to kill each other , Windows 7 , batman , etc ) just as they have some we do n't .
( Robotic sex slaves , FTL drives , novel ways to make popcorn , etc ) I think it will , at least at first , lead to a " you show us yours and we 're show you ours " type of friendliness but who knows if that will last once the ( MP/RI ) AA gets involved.Two truely smart races would combine technologies freely as the universe is so damn huge it 's not like there is n't room .
Here on earth we are use to fighting over resources but in space you have trillions of empty planets , moons , etc so really there is no reason to fight over much of anything unless your race has 3.2453x10 ^ 10000000000000000 members... And even then to fight risks loosing what you already have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find interesting and mostly overlooked about this topic is that people expect alien's to have devolved technology in the same manner and order as we have.One example, People always say that any race that can cover the vast 'sorta' emptiness of space would be smarter than us by default.
That is assuming that they, the alien's, didn't stumble upon 'Faster Than Light' travel at the same time they where working on something that would have seemed totally unrelated.
If you look at some of the greatest breakthroughs here on earth you will often times see that people stumble upon them purely by accidental while working on totally unrelated stuff.I would wager that, when we do meet some aliens, we will discover that we have some advanced technologies THEY don't (porn, novel ways to kill each other, Windows 7, batman, etc) just as they have some we don't.
(Robotic sex slaves, FTL drives, novel ways to make popcorn, etc) I think it will, at least at first, lead to a "you show us yours and we're show you ours" type of friendliness but who knows if that will last once the (MP/RI)AA gets involved.Two truely smart races would combine technologies freely as the universe is so damn huge it's not like there isn't room.
Here on earth we are use to fighting over resources but in space you have trillions of empty planets, moons, etc so really there is no reason to fight over much of anything unless your race has 3.2453x10^10000000000000000 members... And even then to fight risks loosing what you already have.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251787</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244479980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I think you may be confused.  Both of these crafts were launched in the mid-70s; both the delta-Vs we're capable of producing now as well as the efficiency of long-term low-force drives (eg ion drives) are both way higher than they were then.  However, producing a ship that moves that quickly doesn't make sense for most space missions today, since most missions are unmanned and have destinations within our solar system.  It's much cheaper to perform an optimal <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hohmann\_transfer\_orbit" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Hohmann transfer</a> [wikipedia.org] and take a while longer, since that makes your launch weight much lower and your launch vehicle cheaper.</p><p>Now, assuming we can get a ship up to some significant fraction of the speed of light (and I'll admit, it's a pretty big assumption), then you have to consider time dilation.  The main points have already been considered <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=177080&amp;cid=14696307" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">here</a> [slashdot.org].  Unfortunately, several of the links are dead; one included a table of distances to possible destinations within our universe on one axis and had travel speeds as fractions of c on the other axis, and then the table showed the "proper time" of the travelers.  Of course, traveling even at the speed of light, it would take us poor folks on earth 8 years to find the results of a voyage to a star 4 light years away, but any explorers lucky enough to be on that ship will experience considerably less time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I think you may be confused .
Both of these crafts were launched in the mid-70s ; both the delta-Vs we 're capable of producing now as well as the efficiency of long-term low-force drives ( eg ion drives ) are both way higher than they were then .
However , producing a ship that moves that quickly does n't make sense for most space missions today , since most missions are unmanned and have destinations within our solar system .
It 's much cheaper to perform an optimal Hohmann transfer [ wikipedia.org ] and take a while longer , since that makes your launch weight much lower and your launch vehicle cheaper.Now , assuming we can get a ship up to some significant fraction of the speed of light ( and I 'll admit , it 's a pretty big assumption ) , then you have to consider time dilation .
The main points have already been considered here [ slashdot.org ] .
Unfortunately , several of the links are dead ; one included a table of distances to possible destinations within our universe on one axis and had travel speeds as fractions of c on the other axis , and then the table showed the " proper time " of the travelers .
Of course , traveling even at the speed of light , it would take us poor folks on earth 8 years to find the results of a voyage to a star 4 light years away , but any explorers lucky enough to be on that ship will experience considerably less time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I think you may be confused.
Both of these crafts were launched in the mid-70s; both the delta-Vs we're capable of producing now as well as the efficiency of long-term low-force drives (eg ion drives) are both way higher than they were then.
However, producing a ship that moves that quickly doesn't make sense for most space missions today, since most missions are unmanned and have destinations within our solar system.
It's much cheaper to perform an optimal Hohmann transfer [wikipedia.org] and take a while longer, since that makes your launch weight much lower and your launch vehicle cheaper.Now, assuming we can get a ship up to some significant fraction of the speed of light (and I'll admit, it's a pretty big assumption), then you have to consider time dilation.
The main points have already been considered here [slashdot.org].
Unfortunately, several of the links are dead; one included a table of distances to possible destinations within our universe on one axis and had travel speeds as fractions of c on the other axis, and then the table showed the "proper time" of the travelers.
Of course, traveling even at the speed of light, it would take us poor folks on earth 8 years to find the results of a voyage to a star 4 light years away, but any explorers lucky enough to be on that ship will experience considerably less time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241853</id>
	<title>Find out what their motives for being here are</title>
	<author>unlametheweak</author>
	<datestamp>1244395140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd ask them if their political views are left or right wing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd ask them if their political views are left or right wing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd ask them if their political views are left or right wing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243655</id>
	<title>Just Chant</title>
	<author>kevn57</author>
	<datestamp>1244365260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
Bentora, Bentora, Space People!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bentora , Bentora , Space People !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Bentora, Bentora, Space People!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241719</id>
	<title>Squids</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244394480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>We can't even communicate in any meaningful way with squids, which are genetically far more closely related to us than any possible extraterestrials.  What in the world makes us think that it would be any easier to communicate with extraterrestrials?</htmltext>
<tokenext>We ca n't even communicate in any meaningful way with squids , which are genetically far more closely related to us than any possible extraterestrials .
What in the world makes us think that it would be any easier to communicate with extraterrestrials ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We can't even communicate in any meaningful way with squids, which are genetically far more closely related to us than any possible extraterestrials.
What in the world makes us think that it would be any easier to communicate with extraterrestrials?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241995</id>
	<title>Solved by NASA ages ago</title>
	<author>CaptainOfSpray</author>
	<datestamp>1244396160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't any of you know? You say, "Gnorts, Mr Alien".

Back in the 60's, NASA realised that the Apollo might encounter aliens on the Moon, so they named the leader of the expedition appropriately (in an anagram, to demonstrate our intelligence and puzzle-setting ability).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't any of you know ?
You say , " Gnorts , Mr Alien " .
Back in the 60 's , NASA realised that the Apollo might encounter aliens on the Moon , so they named the leader of the expedition appropriately ( in an anagram , to demonstrate our intelligence and puzzle-setting ability ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't any of you know?
You say, "Gnorts, Mr Alien".
Back in the 60's, NASA realised that the Apollo might encounter aliens on the Moon, so they named the leader of the expedition appropriately (in an anagram, to demonstrate our intelligence and puzzle-setting ability).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242363</id>
	<title>How do you greet an extraterrestrial?</title>
	<author>flickwipe</author>
	<datestamp>1244398860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Hi, nice to meet you! Ignore the clangers, they're racists."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hi , nice to meet you !
Ignore the clangers , they 're racists .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hi, nice to meet you!
Ignore the clangers, they're racists.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243007</id>
	<title>"We've got bacteria ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244403660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and they know how to use us."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and they know how to use us .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and they know how to use us.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242427</id>
	<title>ET</title>
	<author>kaoshin</author>
	<datestamp>1244399220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If I meet ET I'm going to flip him the bird.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I meet ET I 'm going to flip him the bird .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I meet ET I'm going to flip him the bird.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251141</id>
	<title>That's easy....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244476680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fuck it and eat it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck it and eat it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck it and eat it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242005</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can move a spaceship then lobbing a few asteroids in our direction would be easy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can move a spaceship then lobbing a few asteroids in our direction would be easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can move a spaceship then lobbing a few asteroids in our direction would be easy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241903</id>
	<title>Fellas, you must've missed a turn</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That big rocky planet three-quarters covered with liquid water and filled with luscious plant and animal life?  Yeah, our astronomers spotted that one too... it's waaaaaay over there thousands of galaxies away.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That big rocky planet three-quarters covered with liquid water and filled with luscious plant and animal life ?
Yeah , our astronomers spotted that one too... it 's waaaaaay over there thousands of galaxies away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That big rocky planet three-quarters covered with liquid water and filled with luscious plant and animal life?
Yeah, our astronomers spotted that one too... it's waaaaaay over there thousands of galaxies away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244361</id>
	<title>My biggest fear re: aliens</title>
	<author>Tanman</author>
	<datestamp>1244371560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My biggest fear regarding aliens is if they are not offshoots of individuals but of a colony structure, such as an ant.  In that instance, we would be doomed.  They would not hesitate to take over our resources and us for the good of their colony.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My biggest fear regarding aliens is if they are not offshoots of individuals but of a colony structure , such as an ant .
In that instance , we would be doomed .
They would not hesitate to take over our resources and us for the good of their colony .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My biggest fear regarding aliens is if they are not offshoots of individuals but of a colony structure, such as an ant.
In that instance, we would be doomed.
They would not hesitate to take over our resources and us for the good of their colony.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245303</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244378280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two tentacles one cup?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two tentacles one cup ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two tentacles one cup?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246501</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1244389620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Try to live in a desert without water and tell me that resources aren't important.</p></div><p>Hey, my next door neighbor has beer, and I'm too broke to buy any. I asked politely but he doesn't want to share it with me, so I'll go conk him on the head with a stick and TAKE a beer from him. So this is acceptable to you? Might always makes right? I'm not saying that it's always as simple as that, but you get politicians and diplomats involved with things, and it somehow GETS that simple.<br>
Oh and by the way: I'll post in my own style, TYVM, and if you don't like it, tough; don't presume to instruct ME on what style to post in.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try to live in a desert without water and tell me that resources are n't important.Hey , my next door neighbor has beer , and I 'm too broke to buy any .
I asked politely but he does n't want to share it with me , so I 'll go conk him on the head with a stick and TAKE a beer from him .
So this is acceptable to you ?
Might always makes right ?
I 'm not saying that it 's always as simple as that , but you get politicians and diplomats involved with things , and it somehow GETS that simple .
Oh and by the way : I 'll post in my own style , TYVM , and if you do n't like it , tough ; do n't presume to instruct ME on what style to post in .
: p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try to live in a desert without water and tell me that resources aren't important.Hey, my next door neighbor has beer, and I'm too broke to buy any.
I asked politely but he doesn't want to share it with me, so I'll go conk him on the head with a stick and TAKE a beer from him.
So this is acceptable to you?
Might always makes right?
I'm not saying that it's always as simple as that, but you get politicians and diplomats involved with things, and it somehow GETS that simple.
Oh and by the way: I'll post in my own style, TYVM, and if you don't like it, tough; don't presume to instruct ME on what style to post in.
:p
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242657</id>
	<title>We're high in protein...</title>
	<author>jddj</author>
	<datestamp>1244401020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...and delightfully crunchy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...and delightfully crunchy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and delightfully crunchy!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242433</id>
	<title>With the universal greeting:</title>
	<author>Kell Bengal</author>
	<datestamp>1244399280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Bahweepgranahweepninnibon"<p>

Then give them an energon cube.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bahweepgranahweepninnibon " Then give them an energon cube .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bahweepgranahweepninnibon"

Then give them an energon cube.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242527</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>Sibko</author>
	<datestamp>1244399940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Freeze and play dead? Someone really should have thought of that \_before\_ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis. Those waves really don't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood.</p></div><p>
Only if you consider our galactic neighbourhood to be what's within a thousand light years. The problem with aliens detecting us based on our transmissions is that the transmissions we broadcast to the universe aren't infinitely powerful nor perfectly collimated with no divergence. In addition, as the signal gets weaker, it becomes harder and harder to understand or even detect it.
<br> <br>
In all likelyhood, an alien civilization as advanced as us wouldn't be able to detect us from beyond 20 lightyears or so. With 1,000 lightyears being about the theoretical maximum. [For those civilizations which are extremely advanced.]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Freeze and play dead ?
Someone really should have thought of that \ _before \ _ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis .
Those waves really do n't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood .
Only if you consider our galactic neighbourhood to be what 's within a thousand light years .
The problem with aliens detecting us based on our transmissions is that the transmissions we broadcast to the universe are n't infinitely powerful nor perfectly collimated with no divergence .
In addition , as the signal gets weaker , it becomes harder and harder to understand or even detect it .
In all likelyhood , an alien civilization as advanced as us would n't be able to detect us from beyond 20 lightyears or so .
With 1,000 lightyears being about the theoretical maximum .
[ For those civilizations which are extremely advanced .
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freeze and play dead?
Someone really should have thought of that \_before\_ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis.
Those waves really don't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood.
Only if you consider our galactic neighbourhood to be what's within a thousand light years.
The problem with aliens detecting us based on our transmissions is that the transmissions we broadcast to the universe aren't infinitely powerful nor perfectly collimated with no divergence.
In addition, as the signal gets weaker, it becomes harder and harder to understand or even detect it.
In all likelyhood, an alien civilization as advanced as us wouldn't be able to detect us from beyond 20 lightyears or so.
With 1,000 lightyears being about the theoretical maximum.
[For those civilizations which are extremely advanced.
]
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242891</id>
	<title>Re:Math.Practicall(?) systems worked on already</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1244402760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincos\_(language)" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincos\_(language)</a> [wikipedia.org]<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CosmicOS" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CosmicOS</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>CosmicOS is even a project on sourceforge, so if anybody have skills and will to contribute...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincos \ _ ( language ) [ wikipedia.org ] http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CosmicOS [ wikipedia.org ] CosmicOS is even a project on sourceforge , so if anybody have skills and will to contribute.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincos\_(language) [wikipedia.org]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CosmicOS [wikipedia.org]CosmicOS is even a project on sourceforge, so if anybody have skills and will to contribute...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241895</id>
	<title>stupid thought experiment</title>
	<author>heptapod</author>
	<datestamp>1244395380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227106.000-decoding-antiquity-eight-scripts-that-still-cant-be-read.html?full=true" title="newscientist.com" rel="nofollow">Eight forms of human language remain uncracked by modern linguists</a> [newscientist.com]. Surely trying to speak Ventaxian and understand their communication will be nigh impossible. Heck I don't think their characters have been encoded into unicode.<br>Let alone knowing how their transmissions are encoded or even if they have a concept of DRM. If we don't know their codecs then those broadcasts will simply fall into the cosmic background radiation and remain lost to us until these aliens do something as gross as landing on the White House lawn and actually share their technology via their universal translator.<br>Who's to say they're even going to be interested in humanity at all. They may decide that ants have a far older and more interesting worldwide civilization which fits their xenothropic principle rather than appealing to our hubris that nigh-hairless primates are the pinnacle of culture and society upon this ball of mud.<br><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/sciencenews/3353407/Scientist-develops-programme-to-understand-alien-languages.html" title="telegraph.co.uk" rel="nofollow">On the bright side this guy says it'd be easy to figure out the grammar of a living alien language</a> [telegraph.co.uk] but there's still the problem of idiom which would only serve the muddy the waters of communication and possibly precipitate conflict.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eight forms of human language remain uncracked by modern linguists [ newscientist.com ] .
Surely trying to speak Ventaxian and understand their communication will be nigh impossible .
Heck I do n't think their characters have been encoded into unicode.Let alone knowing how their transmissions are encoded or even if they have a concept of DRM .
If we do n't know their codecs then those broadcasts will simply fall into the cosmic background radiation and remain lost to us until these aliens do something as gross as landing on the White House lawn and actually share their technology via their universal translator.Who 's to say they 're even going to be interested in humanity at all .
They may decide that ants have a far older and more interesting worldwide civilization which fits their xenothropic principle rather than appealing to our hubris that nigh-hairless primates are the pinnacle of culture and society upon this ball of mud.On the bright side this guy says it 'd be easy to figure out the grammar of a living alien language [ telegraph.co.uk ] but there 's still the problem of idiom which would only serve the muddy the waters of communication and possibly precipitate conflict .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eight forms of human language remain uncracked by modern linguists [newscientist.com].
Surely trying to speak Ventaxian and understand their communication will be nigh impossible.
Heck I don't think their characters have been encoded into unicode.Let alone knowing how their transmissions are encoded or even if they have a concept of DRM.
If we don't know their codecs then those broadcasts will simply fall into the cosmic background radiation and remain lost to us until these aliens do something as gross as landing on the White House lawn and actually share their technology via their universal translator.Who's to say they're even going to be interested in humanity at all.
They may decide that ants have a far older and more interesting worldwide civilization which fits their xenothropic principle rather than appealing to our hubris that nigh-hairless primates are the pinnacle of culture and society upon this ball of mud.On the bright side this guy says it'd be easy to figure out the grammar of a living alien language [telegraph.co.uk] but there's still the problem of idiom which would only serve the muddy the waters of communication and possibly precipitate conflict.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242235</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>Daniel\_Staal</author>
	<datestamp>1244397900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't matter: They would have to be at least <em>equal</em> to us in most technology, and they would have a <em>massive</em> tactical advantage: A ship capable of spending an indeterminate time in deep space, with full life-support.  They also would have to have more experience with space tech, notably propulsion.</p><p>All they have to do to wipe us out is retreat to the asteroid belt, and lob a couple large ones this way.  All of that would be easily within their demonstrated abilities.  We have no weapons capable of attacking outside of low orbit, and no way of countering (much less actually <em>stopping</em>) an attack of that magnitude.  Such an attack would almost certainly leave the biosphere intact, but would likely destroy all real industrial capacity and political stability on Earth.  (And might even manage to wipe out humanity directly.)</p><p>The only real reason not to do such if they wanted a war would be because they wanted our tech.</p><p>Much better to be friendly, and see how well we can bargain.  A planet-based civilization can't hold out against an attacker that holds the high orbitals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't matter : They would have to be at least equal to us in most technology , and they would have a massive tactical advantage : A ship capable of spending an indeterminate time in deep space , with full life-support .
They also would have to have more experience with space tech , notably propulsion.All they have to do to wipe us out is retreat to the asteroid belt , and lob a couple large ones this way .
All of that would be easily within their demonstrated abilities .
We have no weapons capable of attacking outside of low orbit , and no way of countering ( much less actually stopping ) an attack of that magnitude .
Such an attack would almost certainly leave the biosphere intact , but would likely destroy all real industrial capacity and political stability on Earth .
( And might even manage to wipe out humanity directly .
) The only real reason not to do such if they wanted a war would be because they wanted our tech.Much better to be friendly , and see how well we can bargain .
A planet-based civilization ca n't hold out against an attacker that holds the high orbitals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't matter: They would have to be at least equal to us in most technology, and they would have a massive tactical advantage: A ship capable of spending an indeterminate time in deep space, with full life-support.
They also would have to have more experience with space tech, notably propulsion.All they have to do to wipe us out is retreat to the asteroid belt, and lob a couple large ones this way.
All of that would be easily within their demonstrated abilities.
We have no weapons capable of attacking outside of low orbit, and no way of countering (much less actually stopping) an attack of that magnitude.
Such an attack would almost certainly leave the biosphere intact, but would likely destroy all real industrial capacity and political stability on Earth.
(And might even manage to wipe out humanity directly.
)The only real reason not to do such if they wanted a war would be because they wanted our tech.Much better to be friendly, and see how well we can bargain.
A planet-based civilization can't hold out against an attacker that holds the high orbitals.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241937</id>
	<title>I've seen this in the movies...</title>
	<author>Phantom784</author>
	<datestamp>1244395740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll either already speak English for no good reason, or there will be an easily available universal translator to help out.  Problem solved!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll either already speak English for no good reason , or there will be an easily available universal translator to help out .
Problem solved ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll either already speak English for no good reason, or there will be an easily available universal translator to help out.
Problem solved!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242419</id>
	<title>take me with you, this planet sucks!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244399160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would use the age-old...<br>"beam me up scotty, there's no intelligent life down here"</p><p>and really *really* hope they take me with them when they leave...</p><p>anything to get off this god-forsaken rock! augh!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would use the age-old... " beam me up scotty , there 's no intelligent life down here " and really * really * hope they take me with them when they leave...anything to get off this god-forsaken rock !
augh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would use the age-old..."beam me up scotty, there's no intelligent life down here"and really *really* hope they take me with them when they leave...anything to get off this god-forsaken rock!
augh!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242175</id>
	<title>Aliens will be lawyers</title>
	<author>RichMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244397420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are within regulation Zone 4. You are using the patents described in the attached appendix without paying the required fees.<br>You are to appear in court in another solar system in 2 months or judgment will be found against you. The required fees to become current for the use of all patents are shown in the attached appendix. Failure to make a representation at a fee payment hearing will result in bench warrants for seizure of all assets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are within regulation Zone 4 .
You are using the patents described in the attached appendix without paying the required fees.You are to appear in court in another solar system in 2 months or judgment will be found against you .
The required fees to become current for the use of all patents are shown in the attached appendix .
Failure to make a representation at a fee payment hearing will result in bench warrants for seizure of all assets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are within regulation Zone 4.
You are using the patents described in the attached appendix without paying the required fees.You are to appear in court in another solar system in 2 months or judgment will be found against you.
The required fees to become current for the use of all patents are shown in the attached appendix.
Failure to make a representation at a fee payment hearing will result in bench warrants for seizure of all assets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247391</id>
	<title>Re:No one seems to have mentioned this.......</title>
	<author>sl0wp0is0n</author>
	<datestamp>1244399700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would wager that too. We are probably just an interesting "ant colony" to them, that might be worthwhile studying... or not.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would wager that too .
We are probably just an interesting " ant colony " to them , that might be worthwhile studying... or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would wager that too.
We are probably just an interesting "ant colony" to them, that might be worthwhile studying... or not.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28257753</id>
	<title>1st Question</title>
	<author>mwallis</author>
	<datestamp>1244460000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ever since I was a boy (back in the 1960's when space was exciting) I've wondered what I would say if encountering a non-terrestrial intelligence. I still go with my answer then<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>"How do you finance your space program??"</p><p>--<br>"I gotta get off this rock!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever since I was a boy ( back in the 1960 's when space was exciting ) I 've wondered what I would say if encountering a non-terrestrial intelligence .
I still go with my answer then ... " How do you finance your space program ? ?
" -- " I got ta get off this rock !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever since I was a boy (back in the 1960's when space was exciting) I've wondered what I would say if encountering a non-terrestrial intelligence.
I still go with my answer then ..."How do you finance your space program??
"--"I gotta get off this rock!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242725</id>
	<title>The ETs are the ones who decide, not us</title>
	<author>Roark Meets Dent</author>
	<datestamp>1244401440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The ETs who are here with us on Earth are far above humans in terms of intellectual capacity and technology.   So THEY are the ones who decide how any communication with a particular human will occur.   The human decides nothing.

For more information visit the Dr. Karla Turner memorial website at www.KarlaTurner.org</htmltext>
<tokenext>The ETs who are here with us on Earth are far above humans in terms of intellectual capacity and technology .
So THEY are the ones who decide how any communication with a particular human will occur .
The human decides nothing .
For more information visit the Dr. Karla Turner memorial website at www.KarlaTurner.org</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ETs who are here with us on Earth are far above humans in terms of intellectual capacity and technology.
So THEY are the ones who decide how any communication with a particular human will occur.
The human decides nothing.
For more information visit the Dr. Karla Turner memorial website at www.KarlaTurner.org</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245695</id>
	<title>To Serve Man?</title>
	<author>jerrydel</author>
	<datestamp>1244381700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, got any books entitled <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To\_Serve\_Man" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">"To Serve Man"</a> [wikipedia.org]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , got any books entitled " To Serve Man " [ wikipedia.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, got any books entitled "To Serve Man" [wikipedia.org]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245159</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>dave420</author>
	<datestamp>1244377260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Whoever it was from TFA who suggested "we've got guns and know how to use them" as a response was <b>American</b></p> </div><p>FTFY.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever it was from TFA who suggested " we 've got guns and know how to use them " as a response was American FTFY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever it was from TFA who suggested "we've got guns and know how to use them" as a response was American FTFY.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245053</id>
	<title>first we take Manhattan</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1244376360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, you brush up on your Ferengi and check out Kraixlist on subspace ISM to see if any civilization wishes to anex a freshly vacated class M planet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , you brush up on your Ferengi and check out Kraixlist on subspace ISM to see if any civilization wishes to anex a freshly vacated class M planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, you brush up on your Ferengi and check out Kraixlist on subspace ISM to see if any civilization wishes to anex a freshly vacated class M planet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246819</id>
	<title>There's only one sci-fi story you need to read...</title>
	<author>Bytal</author>
	<datestamp>1244392740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His\_Master's\_Voice\_(novel)" title="wikipedia.org">"His Master's Voice"</a> [wikipedia.org] by Stanislaw Lem.
<br> <br>
He seems to be the only classic science fiction writer throwing cold buckets onto the ridiculous idea that it would be easy to communicate with alien intelligences.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" His Master 's Voice " [ wikipedia.org ] by Stanislaw Lem .
He seems to be the only classic science fiction writer throwing cold buckets onto the ridiculous idea that it would be easy to communicate with alien intelligences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"His Master's Voice" [wikipedia.org] by Stanislaw Lem.
He seems to be the only classic science fiction writer throwing cold buckets onto the ridiculous idea that it would be easy to communicate with alien intelligences.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242913</id>
	<title>Mars Attacks</title>
	<author>KneelBeforeZod</author>
	<datestamp>1244402940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't use doves!  It scares the martians.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't use doves !
It scares the martians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't use doves!
It scares the martians.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241861</id>
	<title>What would you say first to an alien?</title>
	<author>Chris Tucker</author>
	<datestamp>1244395200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I can haz cheeseburger?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I can haz cheeseburger ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I can haz cheeseburger?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28248443</id>
	<title>send images and then send symbols</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244454780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interstellar bandwidth is low, possibly hundreds of baud or less (we'll have to use an obvious but inefficient encoding such as FSK so they're sure to see it), and they won't know our language.</p><p>Start with a binary counting code, 8-bit count from 0 to 255, and maybe a "walking 1" pattern.  Then send 2D images by encoding 2-color pixels.  Send geometric shapes, and some obvious marker at the end of a scan line so they'll try looking at it as a 2D matrix.  Make the width a power of 2 just to be sure.  Once they look at the matrix, they'll see triangles and circles, and they'll know it's an image.  Send the same image again but with 4 bits per pixel, to establish a gray scale image encoding for photographs.</p><p>Then send pictures of our faces and bodies, our planet, houses, and so on.  They're very likely to have sent images around on their internet, so we could probably dispense with the counting and just send raw 512x512, 4-bit gray level images with a line down the right side to mark scanlines and time-gaps between images; they'll almost certainly try viewing the data as images, unless they don't have computers yet.  If they don't have computers yet, wait until they do, it will be too hard to encode anything other than "we are here, let's count to 255 again" in a way that an alien 19th century Morse code operator can understand.</p><p>After images of us, send pictures of mathematical equations and equivalent diagrams, arranged to establish a symbolic language for describing mathematical and engineering principles.  Assign binary codes for symbols, create an alphabet.  This will take a lot of carefully designed images, but we can do it over months or years, though we will have to repeat it.  Then start sending more detailed messages, things like mathematical theorems, proofs, and electronic circuits.  Try to give them a feel for what we know about - biology, electronics, etc.</p><p>Technology (electronics), and by implication mathematics and physics, are the \_only\_ things we know for sure we'll have in common with them (since they built a radio), so that's what we should talk about first, to establish a language.  Then ask them if they ever got fusion working, and send some music to see if they get it.  Send information about our solar system and biology, and hope they reply in kind - cheaper than sending a starship to find out, though not as much fun.</p><p>This plan falls apart if they're blind, but I can't imagine an entirely blind race practicing astronomy and inventing radio anyway.</p><p>It could be bad if they're hostile, but if they're hostile, and they have the technology to get here, we're screwed anyway, so it seems like we can only win by talking to them.</p><p>-- Tristan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interstellar bandwidth is low , possibly hundreds of baud or less ( we 'll have to use an obvious but inefficient encoding such as FSK so they 're sure to see it ) , and they wo n't know our language.Start with a binary counting code , 8-bit count from 0 to 255 , and maybe a " walking 1 " pattern .
Then send 2D images by encoding 2-color pixels .
Send geometric shapes , and some obvious marker at the end of a scan line so they 'll try looking at it as a 2D matrix .
Make the width a power of 2 just to be sure .
Once they look at the matrix , they 'll see triangles and circles , and they 'll know it 's an image .
Send the same image again but with 4 bits per pixel , to establish a gray scale image encoding for photographs.Then send pictures of our faces and bodies , our planet , houses , and so on .
They 're very likely to have sent images around on their internet , so we could probably dispense with the counting and just send raw 512x512 , 4-bit gray level images with a line down the right side to mark scanlines and time-gaps between images ; they 'll almost certainly try viewing the data as images , unless they do n't have computers yet .
If they do n't have computers yet , wait until they do , it will be too hard to encode anything other than " we are here , let 's count to 255 again " in a way that an alien 19th century Morse code operator can understand.After images of us , send pictures of mathematical equations and equivalent diagrams , arranged to establish a symbolic language for describing mathematical and engineering principles .
Assign binary codes for symbols , create an alphabet .
This will take a lot of carefully designed images , but we can do it over months or years , though we will have to repeat it .
Then start sending more detailed messages , things like mathematical theorems , proofs , and electronic circuits .
Try to give them a feel for what we know about - biology , electronics , etc.Technology ( electronics ) , and by implication mathematics and physics , are the \ _only \ _ things we know for sure we 'll have in common with them ( since they built a radio ) , so that 's what we should talk about first , to establish a language .
Then ask them if they ever got fusion working , and send some music to see if they get it .
Send information about our solar system and biology , and hope they reply in kind - cheaper than sending a starship to find out , though not as much fun.This plan falls apart if they 're blind , but I ca n't imagine an entirely blind race practicing astronomy and inventing radio anyway.It could be bad if they 're hostile , but if they 're hostile , and they have the technology to get here , we 're screwed anyway , so it seems like we can only win by talking to them.-- Tristan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interstellar bandwidth is low, possibly hundreds of baud or less (we'll have to use an obvious but inefficient encoding such as FSK so they're sure to see it), and they won't know our language.Start with a binary counting code, 8-bit count from 0 to 255, and maybe a "walking 1" pattern.
Then send 2D images by encoding 2-color pixels.
Send geometric shapes, and some obvious marker at the end of a scan line so they'll try looking at it as a 2D matrix.
Make the width a power of 2 just to be sure.
Once they look at the matrix, they'll see triangles and circles, and they'll know it's an image.
Send the same image again but with 4 bits per pixel, to establish a gray scale image encoding for photographs.Then send pictures of our faces and bodies, our planet, houses, and so on.
They're very likely to have sent images around on their internet, so we could probably dispense with the counting and just send raw 512x512, 4-bit gray level images with a line down the right side to mark scanlines and time-gaps between images; they'll almost certainly try viewing the data as images, unless they don't have computers yet.
If they don't have computers yet, wait until they do, it will be too hard to encode anything other than "we are here, let's count to 255 again" in a way that an alien 19th century Morse code operator can understand.After images of us, send pictures of mathematical equations and equivalent diagrams, arranged to establish a symbolic language for describing mathematical and engineering principles.
Assign binary codes for symbols, create an alphabet.
This will take a lot of carefully designed images, but we can do it over months or years, though we will have to repeat it.
Then start sending more detailed messages, things like mathematical theorems, proofs, and electronic circuits.
Try to give them a feel for what we know about - biology, electronics, etc.Technology (electronics), and by implication mathematics and physics, are the \_only\_ things we know for sure we'll have in common with them (since they built a radio), so that's what we should talk about first, to establish a language.
Then ask them if they ever got fusion working, and send some music to see if they get it.
Send information about our solar system and biology, and hope they reply in kind - cheaper than sending a starship to find out, though not as much fun.This plan falls apart if they're blind, but I can't imagine an entirely blind race practicing astronomy and inventing radio anyway.It could be bad if they're hostile, but if they're hostile, and they have the technology to get here, we're screwed anyway, so it seems like we can only win by talking to them.-- Tristan</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243143</id>
	<title>I'd say...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244404560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Om nom nom!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Om nom nom !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Om nom nom!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242511</id>
	<title>Answer:</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1244399760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>very carefully</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>very carefully</tokentext>
<sentencetext>very carefully</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243949</id>
	<title>Nice Cup of Tea</title>
	<author>turgid</author>
	<datestamp>1244368500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With a nice cup of tea, of course, and a selection of biscuits and cakes.
</p><p>Next question?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With a nice cup of tea , of course , and a selection of biscuits and cakes .
Next question ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a nice cup of tea, of course, and a selection of biscuits and cakes.
Next question?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246873</id>
	<title>Post a plague beacon</title>
	<author>grikdog</author>
	<datestamp>1244393400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Warn them that the Earth is infested with a plague species (<i>Homo sapiens</i> Linn.) which wants to take over every habitable planet in the universuum, and thank them for demonstrating their technology.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Warn them that the Earth is infested with a plague species ( Homo sapiens Linn .
) which wants to take over every habitable planet in the universuum , and thank them for demonstrating their technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Warn them that the Earth is infested with a plague species (Homo sapiens Linn.
) which wants to take over every habitable planet in the universuum, and thank them for demonstrating their technology.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246361</id>
	<title>Just use the "Universal Greeting"</title>
	<author>BluestreakWRX</author>
	<datestamp>1244388300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bah weep gra na weep nini bong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bah weep gra na weep nini bong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bah weep gra na weep nini bong.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242305</id>
	<title>Two Words</title>
	<author>fartrader</author>
	<datestamp>1244398320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Brock Sampson</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Brock Sampson</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Brock Sampson</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244249</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>AhtirTano</author>
	<datestamp>1244370660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I loved <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Moon\_Is\_a\_Harsh\_Mistress" title="wikipedia.org"> <i>The Moon is a Harsh Mistress</i> </a> [wikipedia.org] by Heinlein for this exactly logic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I loved The Moon is a Harsh Mistress [ wikipedia.org ] by Heinlein for this exactly logic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I loved  The Moon is a Harsh Mistress  [wikipedia.org] by Heinlein for this exactly logic.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243177</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1244404800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>say nothing of atrocities</p></div><p>Good luck.  What if they are horrified at genetically engineered monoculture agriculture because in their own past they genocided their 3rd world cultures using DRM-ed seeds, kind of like what we're trying to do now?</p><p>Or in their history they successfully used concentration camps to wipe out carnivores, and our digestive tract obviously evolved to eat meat...</p><p>Or their peculiar religion (not all that different from some of our own cults) requires ritual sacrifice of all whom use song and dance for non-religious purposes?  Or all those that do or do NOT use medicinal plants in religious services?</p><p>Or consider worldwide mainstream media culture a form of genocide against the native cultures to be dealt with appropriately?  Or they just think our mainstream media sucks, so all of us suck?</p><p>Our secret weapon is "they" probably have a small number of people to analyze the information we dump to them, but "we" have six billion theoretical exo-anthropologists to study what they give us.  Regardless of the numbers, we will make far more creative discoveries than they will, in the short term.</p><p>Probably a fair exchange would be for them to request an amount of raw data sufficient to just barely overwhelm their staff and we'll get a similar quantity from them.  Probably a heck of a lot of data, like a Project Gutenberg DVD worth.  How fast they process our data will tell us a lot about them.  I suspect the game extends to them showing off.  Put on the best poker face and "Yeah did ya know I can read 10000 words per minute, how bout you?" when in reality they have barely figured out our alphabet...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>say nothing of atrocitiesGood luck .
What if they are horrified at genetically engineered monoculture agriculture because in their own past they genocided their 3rd world cultures using DRM-ed seeds , kind of like what we 're trying to do now ? Or in their history they successfully used concentration camps to wipe out carnivores , and our digestive tract obviously evolved to eat meat...Or their peculiar religion ( not all that different from some of our own cults ) requires ritual sacrifice of all whom use song and dance for non-religious purposes ?
Or all those that do or do NOT use medicinal plants in religious services ? Or consider worldwide mainstream media culture a form of genocide against the native cultures to be dealt with appropriately ?
Or they just think our mainstream media sucks , so all of us suck ? Our secret weapon is " they " probably have a small number of people to analyze the information we dump to them , but " we " have six billion theoretical exo-anthropologists to study what they give us .
Regardless of the numbers , we will make far more creative discoveries than they will , in the short term.Probably a fair exchange would be for them to request an amount of raw data sufficient to just barely overwhelm their staff and we 'll get a similar quantity from them .
Probably a heck of a lot of data , like a Project Gutenberg DVD worth .
How fast they process our data will tell us a lot about them .
I suspect the game extends to them showing off .
Put on the best poker face and " Yeah did ya know I can read 10000 words per minute , how bout you ?
" when in reality they have barely figured out our alphabet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>say nothing of atrocitiesGood luck.
What if they are horrified at genetically engineered monoculture agriculture because in their own past they genocided their 3rd world cultures using DRM-ed seeds, kind of like what we're trying to do now?Or in their history they successfully used concentration camps to wipe out carnivores, and our digestive tract obviously evolved to eat meat...Or their peculiar religion (not all that different from some of our own cults) requires ritual sacrifice of all whom use song and dance for non-religious purposes?
Or all those that do or do NOT use medicinal plants in religious services?Or consider worldwide mainstream media culture a form of genocide against the native cultures to be dealt with appropriately?
Or they just think our mainstream media sucks, so all of us suck?Our secret weapon is "they" probably have a small number of people to analyze the information we dump to them, but "we" have six billion theoretical exo-anthropologists to study what they give us.
Regardless of the numbers, we will make far more creative discoveries than they will, in the short term.Probably a fair exchange would be for them to request an amount of raw data sufficient to just barely overwhelm their staff and we'll get a similar quantity from them.
Probably a heck of a lot of data, like a Project Gutenberg DVD worth.
How fast they process our data will tell us a lot about them.
I suspect the game extends to them showing off.
Put on the best poker face and "Yeah did ya know I can read 10000 words per minute, how bout you?
" when in reality they have barely figured out our alphabet...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249743</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244469060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From jayessell</p><p>Let the "Super Intelligent  Aliens" figure out English.<br>There. We have communication.</p><p>"There's nothing valuable enough or rare enough to ship  between the stars".<br>When you buy a DVD you're paying for a few cents worth of plastic and paper.<br>The other $18.50 is for  the information  on  it.<br>Earth has had civilization of a sort for  5000 years, but in that time has accumulated<br>several Exobytes of text, audio and video.<br>Aliens could squeeze that into  a few  grams of nano-assembled  crystals.<br>This assumes they don't have interstellar quantum  entanglement communication.</p><p>I hope we make a good trade for  it. We can only do it once.<br>Energy? (We can make energy!) De-Pollution? (Well.. If we had energy...)<br>The Aliens should have something we didn't know we wanted.<br>(As  seen in "Betelgeuse Bridge" on Archive . org  (it's a radio show!))</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From jayessellLet the " Super Intelligent Aliens " figure out English.There .
We have communication .
" There 's nothing valuable enough or rare enough to ship between the stars " .When you buy a DVD you 're paying for a few cents worth of plastic and paper.The other $ 18.50 is for the information on it.Earth has had civilization of a sort for 5000 years , but in that time has accumulatedseveral Exobytes of text , audio and video.Aliens could squeeze that into a few grams of nano-assembled crystals.This assumes they do n't have interstellar quantum entanglement communication.I hope we make a good trade for it .
We can only do it once.Energy ?
( We can make energy !
) De-Pollution ?
( Well.. If we had energy... ) The Aliens should have something we did n't know we wanted .
( As seen in " Betelgeuse Bridge " on Archive .
org ( it 's a radio show !
) )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From jayessellLet the "Super Intelligent  Aliens" figure out English.There.
We have communication.
"There's nothing valuable enough or rare enough to ship  between the stars".When you buy a DVD you're paying for a few cents worth of plastic and paper.The other $18.50 is for  the information  on  it.Earth has had civilization of a sort for  5000 years, but in that time has accumulatedseveral Exobytes of text, audio and video.Aliens could squeeze that into  a few  grams of nano-assembled  crystals.This assumes they don't have interstellar quantum  entanglement communication.I hope we make a good trade for  it.
We can only do it once.Energy?
(We can make energy!
) De-Pollution?
(Well.. If we had energy...)The Aliens should have something we didn't know we wanted.
(As  seen in "Betelgeuse Bridge" on Archive .
org  (it's a radio show!
))</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247149</id>
	<title>No Matter How You Prepare Us - WE DON"T TASTE GOOD</title>
	<author>Dharma's Dad</author>
	<datestamp>1244396400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And no amount of sauce will fix that.</p><p>That would be near the tops on my list - you've got to consider what would drive them to seek us out and drop in to visit.  Could it be there is something they need???</p><p>Most likely we would be the intragalactic Stuckey's (Cracker Barrel, if your under 40) and that would so not be cool....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And no amount of sauce will fix that.That would be near the tops on my list - you 've got to consider what would drive them to seek us out and drop in to visit .
Could it be there is something they need ? ?
? Most likely we would be the intragalactic Stuckey 's ( Cracker Barrel , if your under 40 ) and that would so not be cool... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And no amount of sauce will fix that.That would be near the tops on my list - you've got to consider what would drive them to seek us out and drop in to visit.
Could it be there is something they need??
?Most likely we would be the intragalactic Stuckey's (Cracker Barrel, if your under 40) and that would so not be cool....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242889</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>that IT girl</author>
	<datestamp>1244402760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is assuming that another race, another species, another planet would have the same sense of morality that we do. There is no telling what their perception of right and wrong may be, or if they in fact even care about such things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is assuming that another race , another species , another planet would have the same sense of morality that we do .
There is no telling what their perception of right and wrong may be , or if they in fact even care about such things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is assuming that another race, another species, another planet would have the same sense of morality that we do.
There is no telling what their perception of right and wrong may be, or if they in fact even care about such things.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241803</id>
	<title>Nanu! Nanu!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244394900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nanu! Nanu! is the way to go!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nanu !
Nanu ! is the way to go !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nanu!
Nanu! is the way to go!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243433</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>mhs1973</author>
	<datestamp>1244406840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>well, judging by what movies have gone out on the frequencies, we are either a violent lot that has a DeathStar and will annihilate anything in its way, or on the other hand are a semi-violent lot that is on 5 year missions into space where no man has gone before..., or we have both factions and they never meet...<br> that spells to me out as a big warning sign: <br>AVOID ALL CONTACT. THOSE GUYS ARE NUTS!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>well , judging by what movies have gone out on the frequencies , we are either a violent lot that has a DeathStar and will annihilate anything in its way , or on the other hand are a semi-violent lot that is on 5 year missions into space where no man has gone before... , or we have both factions and they never meet... that spells to me out as a big warning sign : AVOID ALL CONTACT .
THOSE GUYS ARE NUTS ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>well, judging by what movies have gone out on the frequencies, we are either a violent lot that has a DeathStar and will annihilate anything in its way, or on the other hand are a semi-violent lot that is on 5 year missions into space where no man has gone before..., or we have both factions and they never meet... that spells to me out as a big warning sign: AVOID ALL CONTACT.
THOSE GUYS ARE NUTS!!
!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242241</id>
	<title>How do we communicate with Aliens?</title>
	<author>RudeIota</author>
	<datestamp>1244397960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Through what appears to be the universal language of mathematics... what else?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Through what appears to be the universal language of mathematics... what else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Through what appears to be the universal language of mathematics... what else?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250399</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244472720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Is that a ray gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to be here?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Is that a ray gun in your pocket , or are you just happy to be here ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Is that a ray gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to be here?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28259473</id>
	<title>Open your gun ports</title>
	<author>pugugly</author>
	<datestamp>1244469360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a sign of respect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a sign of respect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a sign of respect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251475</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>im\_thatoneguy</author>
	<datestamp>1244478240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WE need a multi-generational ship.  WE need food.</p><p>There is no reason to believe there isn't a space faring culture which comes from a species easily capable of near permanent sleep naturally.</p><p>Just because we can't be easily freezedried doesn't mean all species can't easily survive.<br>---<br>My solution:</p><p>Beep.  Beeep Beep.   Beep Beep Beep. Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep. etc....  Establish a numerical system.  Establish a mathematical system.   Work your way out from mathematical constructs to nouns and grammar.</p><p>But that's assuming they're on par with us.    They probably do have fancy multi-generational space ships in which case we can just had them a laptop with wifi.  Let them figure it out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WE need a multi-generational ship .
WE need food.There is no reason to believe there is n't a space faring culture which comes from a species easily capable of near permanent sleep naturally.Just because we ca n't be easily freezedried does n't mean all species ca n't easily survive.---My solution : Beep .
Beeep Beep .
Beep Beep Beep .
Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep .
etc.... Establish a numerical system .
Establish a mathematical system .
Work your way out from mathematical constructs to nouns and grammar.But that 's assuming they 're on par with us .
They probably do have fancy multi-generational space ships in which case we can just had them a laptop with wifi .
Let them figure it out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WE need a multi-generational ship.
WE need food.There is no reason to believe there isn't a space faring culture which comes from a species easily capable of near permanent sleep naturally.Just because we can't be easily freezedried doesn't mean all species can't easily survive.---My solution:Beep.
Beeep Beep.
Beep Beep Beep.
Beep Beep Beep Beep Beep.
etc....  Establish a numerical system.
Establish a mathematical system.
Work your way out from mathematical constructs to nouns and grammar.But that's assuming they're on par with us.
They probably do have fancy multi-generational space ships in which case we can just had them a laptop with wifi.
Let them figure it out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244023</id>
	<title>Marklar</title>
	<author>nadamucho</author>
	<datestamp>1244369220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, there is a lot of room on Marklar. If Marklar here wants to bring his marklar to Marklar, that would be fine. Just take our marklar back to Marklar and bring all the marklar back with you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , there is a lot of room on Marklar .
If Marklar here wants to bring his marklar to Marklar , that would be fine .
Just take our marklar back to Marklar and bring all the marklar back with you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, there is a lot of room on Marklar.
If Marklar here wants to bring his marklar to Marklar, that would be fine.
Just take our marklar back to Marklar and bring all the marklar back with you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28269329</id>
	<title>Example</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1244575800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p># ## ###<br>1 2 3</p><p># + ## = ###</p><p>1 + 2 = 3</p><p># = 1<br>## = 2<br>### = 3</p><p>1,2,...,9,10,11,...,18,19,20,21,...,98,99,100,101,...</p><p>That is where you start to explain the numerals we use and give examples of the symbols we use for equality, divison, subtraction etc. It shoudl convey we have a decimal system with symbols (numerals) indicating quanity and how the scale progresses.</p><p>The for a given language (say english) you would put in a condensed:</p><p>(Picture of an apple)</p><p>APPLE</p><p>(Recording of somone saying Apple)</p><p>A is for Apple, Ape, Achivement,b is for boy, bag, bong, baby,c is for cat, can, color,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... , x,y,z</p><p>(recording of someone saying the alphabet with an example of a word with it)</p><p>This will help express that symbols have sounds associated with them and that stringing together letters make words.</p><p>(red colored square)<br>Red Colored Square</p><p>(red colored triangle)<br>Red colored Triangle</p><p>With the Red example we assume they have figured out that we are A: Intelligent and B: Trying to explain things to them at this point.</p><p>The Red Colored Square and Red Colored Triangle is telling them two basic grammar points: adjectives and nouns.</p><p>Then we would do a:</p><p>(Picture of a horse standing)</p><p>Horse</p><p>"The Horse is standing"</p><p>(Picture of a horse running)</p><p>"The horse is running"</p><p>From that point they could quickly develop a noun, verb, adjective, adverb understanding of a language. Then they just have to pull a Leeloo and watch a bazillion years worth of TV to get the idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext># # # # # # 1 2 3 # + # # = # # # 1 + 2 = 3 # = 1 # # = 2 # # # = 31,2,...,9,10,11,...,18,19,20,21,...,98,99,100,101,...That is where you start to explain the numerals we use and give examples of the symbols we use for equality , divison , subtraction etc .
It shoudl convey we have a decimal system with symbols ( numerals ) indicating quanity and how the scale progresses.The for a given language ( say english ) you would put in a condensed : ( Picture of an apple ) APPLE ( Recording of somone saying Apple ) A is for Apple , Ape , Achivement,b is for boy , bag , bong , baby,c is for cat , can , color , ... , x,y,z ( recording of someone saying the alphabet with an example of a word with it ) This will help express that symbols have sounds associated with them and that stringing together letters make words .
( red colored square ) Red Colored Square ( red colored triangle ) Red colored TriangleWith the Red example we assume they have figured out that we are A : Intelligent and B : Trying to explain things to them at this point.The Red Colored Square and Red Colored Triangle is telling them two basic grammar points : adjectives and nouns.Then we would do a : ( Picture of a horse standing ) Horse " The Horse is standing " ( Picture of a horse running ) " The horse is running " From that point they could quickly develop a noun , verb , adjective , adverb understanding of a language .
Then they just have to pull a Leeloo and watch a bazillion years worth of TV to get the idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext># ## ###1 2 3# + ## = ###1 + 2 = 3# = 1## = 2### = 31,2,...,9,10,11,...,18,19,20,21,...,98,99,100,101,...That is where you start to explain the numerals we use and give examples of the symbols we use for equality, divison, subtraction etc.
It shoudl convey we have a decimal system with symbols (numerals) indicating quanity and how the scale progresses.The for a given language (say english) you would put in a condensed:(Picture of an apple)APPLE(Recording of somone saying Apple)A is for Apple, Ape, Achivement,b is for boy, bag, bong, baby,c is for cat, can, color, ... , x,y,z(recording of someone saying the alphabet with an example of a word with it)This will help express that symbols have sounds associated with them and that stringing together letters make words.
(red colored square)Red Colored Square(red colored triangle)Red colored TriangleWith the Red example we assume they have figured out that we are A: Intelligent and B: Trying to explain things to them at this point.The Red Colored Square and Red Colored Triangle is telling them two basic grammar points: adjectives and nouns.Then we would do a:(Picture of a horse standing)Horse"The Horse is standing"(Picture of a horse running)"The horse is running"From that point they could quickly develop a noun, verb, adjective, adverb understanding of a language.
Then they just have to pull a Leeloo and watch a bazillion years worth of TV to get the idea.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241989</id>
	<title>Papers, please</title>
	<author>JustOK</author>
	<datestamp>1244396100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they don't have valid passports, there's no way in hell they'll get into the US, unless they sneak in. Plus, wouldn't they have to send a passenger manifest first before they would be allowed to land?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they do n't have valid passports , there 's no way in hell they 'll get into the US , unless they sneak in .
Plus , would n't they have to send a passenger manifest first before they would be allowed to land ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they don't have valid passports, there's no way in hell they'll get into the US, unless they sneak in.
Plus, wouldn't they have to send a passenger manifest first before they would be allowed to land?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242331</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>SolarStorm</author>
	<datestamp>1244398620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a very interesting question because we only have our own frame of reference to rely on:

What if the "Alien" race is simply a nungry colony of termites in a forest of worlds?  They may be intelligent, but driven by an instinct to consume.  Then again, they may be peaceful bunny rabbits that will simply over bread us into extinction and their theological beliefs wont stop the breading. (think catholic here<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  The possibilities are endless.

I find the show of any kind of military might silly, as any race advanced enough to achieve interstellar flight will simply look at our current weapons and laugh.  Remember we cant even colonize our own oceans yet! Let alone travel to another star, think of the technology that this would require?

But who says interstellar flight or alien races would use technology, what if it simply were biological?  or what if what we describe as communication has no meaning to them at all?  perhaps telepathy or group consiousness is "their" way of communicating, a method we simply cant comprehend or perhaps even achieve.

All of this is purely speculation, but I also wonder why we are trying to say hi?  If "they" are remotely interested in us, wouldnt "they" use their technological advancement say hi to whom ever interests them?  For all we know the wiggly worm on the sidewalk may be trying to say hi to us, and even view our foot as first contact, until it squishes them?

As far as achieving a common law of war or geneava convention is concerned.  They probably havent heard of Geneava if their intent is hostile.  Plus the chance that their morals are even close to what are are, are probably remote.

I would simply wait for them to say Hi, sit and listen.  I have a strong feeling we will be the student in any form of first contact</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a very interesting question because we only have our own frame of reference to rely on : What if the " Alien " race is simply a nungry colony of termites in a forest of worlds ?
They may be intelligent , but driven by an instinct to consume .
Then again , they may be peaceful bunny rabbits that will simply over bread us into extinction and their theological beliefs wont stop the breading .
( think catholic here : ) The possibilities are endless .
I find the show of any kind of military might silly , as any race advanced enough to achieve interstellar flight will simply look at our current weapons and laugh .
Remember we cant even colonize our own oceans yet !
Let alone travel to another star , think of the technology that this would require ?
But who says interstellar flight or alien races would use technology , what if it simply were biological ?
or what if what we describe as communication has no meaning to them at all ?
perhaps telepathy or group consiousness is " their " way of communicating , a method we simply cant comprehend or perhaps even achieve .
All of this is purely speculation , but I also wonder why we are trying to say hi ?
If " they " are remotely interested in us , wouldnt " they " use their technological advancement say hi to whom ever interests them ?
For all we know the wiggly worm on the sidewalk may be trying to say hi to us , and even view our foot as first contact , until it squishes them ?
As far as achieving a common law of war or geneava convention is concerned .
They probably havent heard of Geneava if their intent is hostile .
Plus the chance that their morals are even close to what are are , are probably remote .
I would simply wait for them to say Hi , sit and listen .
I have a strong feeling we will be the student in any form of first contact</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a very interesting question because we only have our own frame of reference to rely on:

What if the "Alien" race is simply a nungry colony of termites in a forest of worlds?
They may be intelligent, but driven by an instinct to consume.
Then again, they may be peaceful bunny rabbits that will simply over bread us into extinction and their theological beliefs wont stop the breading.
(think catholic here :)  The possibilities are endless.
I find the show of any kind of military might silly, as any race advanced enough to achieve interstellar flight will simply look at our current weapons and laugh.
Remember we cant even colonize our own oceans yet!
Let alone travel to another star, think of the technology that this would require?
But who says interstellar flight or alien races would use technology, what if it simply were biological?
or what if what we describe as communication has no meaning to them at all?
perhaps telepathy or group consiousness is "their" way of communicating, a method we simply cant comprehend or perhaps even achieve.
All of this is purely speculation, but I also wonder why we are trying to say hi?
If "they" are remotely interested in us, wouldnt "they" use their technological advancement say hi to whom ever interests them?
For all we know the wiggly worm on the sidewalk may be trying to say hi to us, and even view our foot as first contact, until it squishes them?
As far as achieving a common law of war or geneava convention is concerned.
They probably havent heard of Geneava if their intent is hostile.
Plus the chance that their morals are even close to what are are, are probably remote.
I would simply wait for them to say Hi, sit and listen.
I have a strong feeling we will be the student in any form of first contact</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242183</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>rastilin</author>
	<datestamp>1244397480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't think that's a given. The only two things we're lacking in order to make a slow-boat colonization ship to another planet is:
1) Hibernation technology
2) The economic dedication required to do so</p></div><p>Well we're also lacking the technology to build a structure that can withstand the trip and take all the stuff it needs with it. Even if we had the technology, we'd still need to design and scale up smaller models till we got to a point where we can build it. But that isn't my point, my point is that we'd be hard pressed to build a colony ship even if we dedicated the planet's whole productive and economic capacity into it. Even if we optimized it with those "keep me awake for a week" drugs and 100 hour work weeks. That means that even a low tech STL ship that comes in to Earth implies a level of mass production several orders above ours. That is a scary thing. It means that if they actually wanted to fight us, they could out produce us in terms of Armor and Planes. If they have a high level of automation, they won't even need many personnel.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think that 's a given .
The only two things we 're lacking in order to make a slow-boat colonization ship to another planet is : 1 ) Hibernation technology 2 ) The economic dedication required to do soWell we 're also lacking the technology to build a structure that can withstand the trip and take all the stuff it needs with it .
Even if we had the technology , we 'd still need to design and scale up smaller models till we got to a point where we can build it .
But that is n't my point , my point is that we 'd be hard pressed to build a colony ship even if we dedicated the planet 's whole productive and economic capacity into it .
Even if we optimized it with those " keep me awake for a week " drugs and 100 hour work weeks .
That means that even a low tech STL ship that comes in to Earth implies a level of mass production several orders above ours .
That is a scary thing .
It means that if they actually wanted to fight us , they could out produce us in terms of Armor and Planes .
If they have a high level of automation , they wo n't even need many personnel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think that's a given.
The only two things we're lacking in order to make a slow-boat colonization ship to another planet is:
1) Hibernation technology
2) The economic dedication required to do soWell we're also lacking the technology to build a structure that can withstand the trip and take all the stuff it needs with it.
Even if we had the technology, we'd still need to design and scale up smaller models till we got to a point where we can build it.
But that isn't my point, my point is that we'd be hard pressed to build a colony ship even if we dedicated the planet's whole productive and economic capacity into it.
Even if we optimized it with those "keep me awake for a week" drugs and 100 hour work weeks.
That means that even a low tech STL ship that comes in to Earth implies a level of mass production several orders above ours.
That is a scary thing.
It means that if they actually wanted to fight us, they could out produce us in terms of Armor and Planes.
If they have a high level of automation, they won't even need many personnel.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242989</id>
	<title>Preconceived notions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244403540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably "you look nothing like your picture."</p><p>For over a century of humans describing and illustrating concepts of intelligent extraterrestrial life (and longer for beasts and demons), what are the odds that they would look nothing at all like *any* of it?  If history and science have proven anything about ourselves, is that our imaginations are as limited as our intelligence.  Today's tech is yesterday's magic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably " you look nothing like your picture .
" For over a century of humans describing and illustrating concepts of intelligent extraterrestrial life ( and longer for beasts and demons ) , what are the odds that they would look nothing at all like * any * of it ?
If history and science have proven anything about ourselves , is that our imaginations are as limited as our intelligence .
Today 's tech is yesterday 's magic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably "you look nothing like your picture.
"For over a century of humans describing and illustrating concepts of intelligent extraterrestrial life (and longer for beasts and demons), what are the odds that they would look nothing at all like *any* of it?
If history and science have proven anything about ourselves, is that our imaginations are as limited as our intelligence.
Today's tech is yesterday's magic.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242053</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So we've got guns. I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs. If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react. If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.</p></div><p>^ What he said ^</p><p>Seriously, people.  Whoever it was from TFA who suggested "we've got guns and know how to use them" as a response was clueless.</p><p>If an extraterrestrial species is remotely close to human beings technologically, then there is no way for them to reach us anymore than we can reach them.  Interstellar space is a wonderfully effective buffer.  If we're communicating with a neighbouring species via radio, with no chance of visitation, then we needn't worry about hostilities.  Try to imagine fighting a war between North America and Australia without ships, missiles or aircraft.  And that analogy vastly understates the distances involved.</p><p>If they can reach us, and we can't reach them, then threats or hostility is a non-starter.  Any spacecraft capable of crossing the gulf between stars is very likely so far ahead of us that we'd be unable to scratch the finish.  And any craft able to cross that distance at a significant fraction of the speed of light is, by definition, able to render this entire planet sterile by way of a RKV.  Think muskets vs. nukes here.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So we 've got guns .
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs .
If they wished to annihilate us , I wager they 'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react .
If an alien race should contact Earth , I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions. ^ What he said ^ Seriously , people .
Whoever it was from TFA who suggested " we 've got guns and know how to use them " as a response was clueless.If an extraterrestrial species is remotely close to human beings technologically , then there is no way for them to reach us anymore than we can reach them .
Interstellar space is a wonderfully effective buffer .
If we 're communicating with a neighbouring species via radio , with no chance of visitation , then we need n't worry about hostilities .
Try to imagine fighting a war between North America and Australia without ships , missiles or aircraft .
And that analogy vastly understates the distances involved.If they can reach us , and we ca n't reach them , then threats or hostility is a non-starter .
Any spacecraft capable of crossing the gulf between stars is very likely so far ahead of us that we 'd be unable to scratch the finish .
And any craft able to cross that distance at a significant fraction of the speed of light is , by definition , able to render this entire planet sterile by way of a RKV .
Think muskets vs. nukes here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So we've got guns.
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs.
If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react.
If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.^ What he said ^Seriously, people.
Whoever it was from TFA who suggested "we've got guns and know how to use them" as a response was clueless.If an extraterrestrial species is remotely close to human beings technologically, then there is no way for them to reach us anymore than we can reach them.
Interstellar space is a wonderfully effective buffer.
If we're communicating with a neighbouring species via radio, with no chance of visitation, then we needn't worry about hostilities.
Try to imagine fighting a war between North America and Australia without ships, missiles or aircraft.
And that analogy vastly understates the distances involved.If they can reach us, and we can't reach them, then threats or hostility is a non-starter.
Any spacecraft capable of crossing the gulf between stars is very likely so far ahead of us that we'd be unable to scratch the finish.
And any craft able to cross that distance at a significant fraction of the speed of light is, by definition, able to render this entire planet sterile by way of a RKV.
Think muskets vs. nukes here.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242133</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>petes\_PoV</author>
	<datestamp>1244397120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Earth then begins to look like a habitable, unoccupied planet ripe for colonizing</p></div><p>You're making a huge number of assumptions about what they consider habitable. For all you know oxygen could be poisonous to them. Maybe their respiratory cycle excretes hydrocarbons as waste? Maybe they eat radioactive waste.
</p><p>
Who can tell, but a lack of imagination could be fatal - to us or them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Earth then begins to look like a habitable , unoccupied planet ripe for colonizingYou 're making a huge number of assumptions about what they consider habitable .
For all you know oxygen could be poisonous to them .
Maybe their respiratory cycle excretes hydrocarbons as waste ?
Maybe they eat radioactive waste .
Who can tell , but a lack of imagination could be fatal - to us or them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Earth then begins to look like a habitable, unoccupied planet ripe for colonizingYou're making a huge number of assumptions about what they consider habitable.
For all you know oxygen could be poisonous to them.
Maybe their respiratory cycle excretes hydrocarbons as waste?
Maybe they eat radioactive waste.
Who can tell, but a lack of imagination could be fatal - to us or them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28256287</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244454540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history.</p></div><p>That would be much easier if we hadn't spent the last century beaming ever-increasing amounts of our culture into outer space. An approaching alien would just have to tune in and flip on their Tivo 100 light years out. By the time they got here they would have a pretty good idea of who we are and what we've been doing to each other, especially if they pick up History Channel's satellite feeds.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We should greet others firmly , while revealing little of our own cultures and history.That would be much easier if we had n't spent the last century beaming ever-increasing amounts of our culture into outer space .
An approaching alien would just have to tune in and flip on their Tivo 100 light years out .
By the time they got here they would have a pretty good idea of who we are and what we 've been doing to each other , especially if they pick up History Channel 's satellite feeds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history.That would be much easier if we hadn't spent the last century beaming ever-increasing amounts of our culture into outer space.
An approaching alien would just have to tune in and flip on their Tivo 100 light years out.
By the time they got here they would have a pretty good idea of who we are and what we've been doing to each other, especially if they pick up History Channel's satellite feeds.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244763</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1244374380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Footfall is good but it's only one possible scenario. It seems as likely that wandering aliens will be cooperative as combative (and indeed the subject of such politics is even breached in <em>Footfall</em> &mdash; if the Fithp had gone behind another leader then the whole thing might have gone very differently. Also, it's a science-<em>fiction</em> novel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Footfall is good but it 's only one possible scenario .
It seems as likely that wandering aliens will be cooperative as combative ( and indeed the subject of such politics is even breached in Footfall    if the Fithp had gone behind another leader then the whole thing might have gone very differently .
Also , it 's a science-fiction novel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Footfall is good but it's only one possible scenario.
It seems as likely that wandering aliens will be cooperative as combative (and indeed the subject of such politics is even breached in Footfall — if the Fithp had gone behind another leader then the whole thing might have gone very differently.
Also, it's a science-fiction novel.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241947</id>
	<title>I can see it now</title>
	<author>glwtta</author>
	<datestamp>1244395800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>DAVIS:</b> We are a benign species, opposed to interplanetary conflict, and believe in equal opportunity for all beings, regardless of age, race, gender, sexual orientation or planet of origin<br>
<b>STAN:</b> That's nice. Look, let me start over, OK? I want you to tell me what the people on your planet are gonna do to make Stanley H Tweedle a happier man<br>
<b>DAVIS:</b> Is this right?<br>
<b>PRINCE:</b> Stick to the cards, Mr President. All possibilities have been anticipated. Do not deviate from the cards<br>
<b>DAVIS:</b> Congratulations on your birthday!</htmltext>
<tokenext>DAVIS : We are a benign species , opposed to interplanetary conflict , and believe in equal opportunity for all beings , regardless of age , race , gender , sexual orientation or planet of origin STAN : That 's nice .
Look , let me start over , OK ?
I want you to tell me what the people on your planet are gon na do to make Stanley H Tweedle a happier man DAVIS : Is this right ?
PRINCE : Stick to the cards , Mr President .
All possibilities have been anticipated .
Do not deviate from the cards DAVIS : Congratulations on your birthday !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DAVIS: We are a benign species, opposed to interplanetary conflict, and believe in equal opportunity for all beings, regardless of age, race, gender, sexual orientation or planet of origin
STAN: That's nice.
Look, let me start over, OK?
I want you to tell me what the people on your planet are gonna do to make Stanley H Tweedle a happier man
DAVIS: Is this right?
PRINCE: Stick to the cards, Mr President.
All possibilities have been anticipated.
Do not deviate from the cards
DAVIS: Congratulations on your birthday!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244827</id>
	<title>An oldie but a goodie...</title>
	<author>History's Coming To</author>
	<datestamp>1244374800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This was settled in the late 60's....<br> <br>

"Gnorts, Mr Alien!"<br> <br>

(Read it backwards if you missed the gag...)</htmltext>
<tokenext>This was settled in the late 60 's... . " Gnorts , Mr Alien !
" ( Read it backwards if you missed the gag... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This was settled in the late 60's.... 

"Gnorts, Mr Alien!
" 

(Read it backwards if you missed the gag...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242167</id>
	<title>We've seen aliens before</title>
	<author>WhoaNotSoFast</author>
	<datestamp>1244397360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uh, didn't the Bush regime build some kind of fence to keep out aliens? Quick, someone call Immigration!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , did n't the Bush regime build some kind of fence to keep out aliens ?
Quick , someone call Immigration !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, didn't the Bush regime build some kind of fence to keep out aliens?
Quick, someone call Immigration!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245661</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>gy equals c</author>
	<datestamp>1244381460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If aliens show up physically, our only sane posture is one of extreme respect.  They don't need to have advanced weapons, they've got the asteroid belt and we're sitting at the bottom of a gravity well thst we can barely get out of.

Ceres for breakfast, anyone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If aliens show up physically , our only sane posture is one of extreme respect .
They do n't need to have advanced weapons , they 've got the asteroid belt and we 're sitting at the bottom of a gravity well thst we can barely get out of .
Ceres for breakfast , anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If aliens show up physically, our only sane posture is one of extreme respect.
They don't need to have advanced weapons, they've got the asteroid belt and we're sitting at the bottom of a gravity well thst we can barely get out of.
Ceres for breakfast, anyone?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243071</id>
	<title>Stick With Tradition</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244404080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Impound their spacecraft and autopsy their bodies. </p><p>That's worked out well before.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Impound their spacecraft and autopsy their bodies .
That 's worked out well before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Impound their spacecraft and autopsy their bodies.
That's worked out well before.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242373</id>
	<title>Close Encounters?</title>
	<author>dandart</author>
	<datestamp>1244398920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>D E C lowC lowG</htmltext>
<tokenext>D E C lowC lowG</tokentext>
<sentencetext>D E C lowC lowG</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246877</id>
	<title>Oblig.</title>
	<author>Kittenman</author>
	<datestamp>1244393400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Hey, is that guy boring you?  Why not talk to me for a while. I'm from another planet".</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hey , is that guy boring you ?
Why not talk to me for a while .
I 'm from another planet " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hey, is that guy boring you?
Why not talk to me for a while.
I'm from another planet".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242291</id>
	<title>Already solved</title>
	<author>AlHunt</author>
	<datestamp>1244398200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Carpenters answered this decades ago and it's already beaming it's way across the cosmos:<br>---------------------<br>In your mind you have capacities you know<br>To telepath messages through the vast unknown<br>Please close your eyes and concentrate<br>With every thought you think<br>Upon the recitation we're about to sing</p><p>Calling occupants of interplanetary craft<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craft</p><p>Calling occupants of interplanetary craft<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary craft<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craft</p><p>You've been observing our earth<br>And we'd like to make a contact with you<br>We are your friends</p><p>Calling occupants of interplanetary craft<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary ultra emissaries</p><p>We've been observing your earth<br>And one night we'll make a contact with you</p><p>We are your friends<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary quite extraordinary craft</p><p>And please come in pace we beseech you<br>(Only of love we will teach you)<br>Our earth may never survive (So don't come we beg you)<br>Please interstellar policemen<br>Won't you give us a sign give us a sign that we've reached you</p><p>With your mind you have ability to form<br>And transmit thought energy far beyond the norm<br>You close your eyes, you concentrate, together that's the way<br>To send a message we declare World Contact Day</p><p>Calling occupants of interplanetary craft<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary craft<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craft</p><p>Calling occupants<br>Calling occupants<br>Calling occupants of interplanetary, anti-adversary craft</p><p>We are your friends<br>---------------------</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Carpenters answered this decades ago and it 's already beaming it 's way across the cosmos : ---------------------In your mind you have capacities you knowTo telepath messages through the vast unknownPlease close your eyes and concentrateWith every thought you thinkUpon the recitation we 're about to singCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary , most extraordinary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary , most extraordinary craftYou 've been observing our earthAnd we 'd like to make a contact with youWe are your friendsCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary ultra emissariesWe 've been observing your earthAnd one night we 'll make a contact with youWe are your friendsCalling occupants of interplanetary quite extraordinary craftAnd please come in pace we beseech you ( Only of love we will teach you ) Our earth may never survive ( So do n't come we beg you ) Please interstellar policemenWo n't you give us a sign give us a sign that we 've reached youWith your mind you have ability to formAnd transmit thought energy far beyond the normYou close your eyes , you concentrate , together that 's the wayTo send a message we declare World Contact DayCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary , most extraordinary craftCalling occupantsCalling occupantsCalling occupants of interplanetary , anti-adversary craftWe are your friends---------------------</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Carpenters answered this decades ago and it's already beaming it's way across the cosmos:---------------------In your mind you have capacities you knowTo telepath messages through the vast unknownPlease close your eyes and concentrateWith every thought you thinkUpon the recitation we're about to singCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craftYou've been observing our earthAnd we'd like to make a contact with youWe are your friendsCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary ultra emissariesWe've been observing your earthAnd one night we'll make a contact with youWe are your friendsCalling occupants of interplanetary quite extraordinary craftAnd please come in pace we beseech you(Only of love we will teach you)Our earth may never survive (So don't come we beg you)Please interstellar policemenWon't you give us a sign give us a sign that we've reached youWith your mind you have ability to formAnd transmit thought energy far beyond the normYou close your eyes, you concentrate, together that's the wayTo send a message we declare World Contact DayCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary craftCalling occupants of interplanetary, most extraordinary craftCalling occupantsCalling occupantsCalling occupants of interplanetary, anti-adversary craftWe are your friends---------------------</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245423</id>
	<title>I suppose</title>
	<author>Allnighterking</author>
	<datestamp>1244379420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Na Nu, Na Nu would be out of the question.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Na Nu , Na Nu would be out of the question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Na Nu, Na Nu would be out of the question.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250467</id>
	<title>How to greet ET.  Duh!</title>
	<author>GargamelSpaceman</author>
	<datestamp>1244473080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With some Reeses Pieces.</htmltext>
<tokenext>With some Reeses Pieces .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With some Reeses Pieces.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243201</id>
	<title>Homo saps</title>
	<author>Vamman</author>
	<datestamp>1244404980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When our species encountered another intelligent sister species of near identical genetic code we obviously annihilated them off the planet. We really don't have much basis or fact to say with 100\% certainty that the reason we don't co-exist with another intelligent species on Earth is because of our own doing. Humans instinctively parasitize and conquer everything in sight. If a highly intelligent species were to greet us even as friendly beings in the soul interest of simply learning about our primitive ways our ego would explode and we very likely would turn on this species like we have done to so many others extinct and living on good ole earth.

The greetings may very well be friendly at first but as soon as that alien being turns his back to us - look out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When our species encountered another intelligent sister species of near identical genetic code we obviously annihilated them off the planet .
We really do n't have much basis or fact to say with 100 \ % certainty that the reason we do n't co-exist with another intelligent species on Earth is because of our own doing .
Humans instinctively parasitize and conquer everything in sight .
If a highly intelligent species were to greet us even as friendly beings in the soul interest of simply learning about our primitive ways our ego would explode and we very likely would turn on this species like we have done to so many others extinct and living on good ole earth .
The greetings may very well be friendly at first but as soon as that alien being turns his back to us - look out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When our species encountered another intelligent sister species of near identical genetic code we obviously annihilated them off the planet.
We really don't have much basis or fact to say with 100\% certainty that the reason we don't co-exist with another intelligent species on Earth is because of our own doing.
Humans instinctively parasitize and conquer everything in sight.
If a highly intelligent species were to greet us even as friendly beings in the soul interest of simply learning about our primitive ways our ego would explode and we very likely would turn on this species like we have done to so many others extinct and living on good ole earth.
The greetings may very well be friendly at first but as soon as that alien being turns his back to us - look out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247453</id>
	<title>Get them drunk</title>
	<author>gullevek</author>
	<datestamp>1244400660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would bring them to the next bar and get wasted with them. Nothing better to say hello to earth than getting wasted!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would bring them to the next bar and get wasted with them .
Nothing better to say hello to earth than getting wasted !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would bring them to the next bar and get wasted with them.
Nothing better to say hello to earth than getting wasted!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28256407</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244454960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but 2+2=4 everywhere you go.</p></div><p>Unless you go somewhere that uses base 4, in which case 2+2=10;<br>or somewhere that uses base 3, in which case 2+2=11;<br>or somewhere that uses base 2 (a.k.a. binary), in which case "what's 2"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but 2 + 2 = 4 everywhere you go.Unless you go somewhere that uses base 4 , in which case 2 + 2 = 10 ; or somewhere that uses base 3 , in which case 2 + 2 = 11 ; or somewhere that uses base 2 ( a.k.a .
binary ) , in which case " what 's 2 " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but 2+2=4 everywhere you go.Unless you go somewhere that uses base 4, in which case 2+2=10;or somewhere that uses base 3, in which case 2+2=11;or somewhere that uses base 2 (a.k.a.
binary), in which case "what's 2"?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242245</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>rastilin</author>
	<datestamp>1244398020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While a display of martial might would serve to make the earth look less available, it also risks making us appear savage and again, unintelligent. It might make them feel justified in subjugating us and colonizing earth.

Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation. We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history. Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show. Given time, this can be relaxed. If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war. Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that, if broken deliberately, will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking. But if this should occur, act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline. Conversely, if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge, be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars, and let the borders be opened slowly. Control their perception of us, so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with, rather than merely subjugate.</p></div><p>A brilliant plan that does seem to cover all the bases. Since we can't be sure of what they will be like, a policy of limited information sharing is the best tactic to insure they won't use our information against us in some way we have not considered. But I'd go even further, I'd be firm, but not display any violent potential. The best knife is one that is hidden after all and if they harbor the desire to conquer us anyway this will give us an advantage in the initial confrontation. On the flipside if they're peaceful then they won't consider actual violence. The only downside is the edge-case where they are violent, but only towards apparent pacifists, which still gives us an advantage in battle after which they may well retreat. Assuming they have something resembling human psychology.</p><p>Personally whenever I see those Hollywood movies with friendly aliens, I wonder if ET's mates aren't waiting in orbit around Pluto with "planet cracker" bombs in case things turn nasty.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>While a display of martial might would serve to make the earth look less available , it also risks making us appear savage and again , unintelligent .
It might make them feel justified in subjugating us and colonizing earth .
Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation .
We should greet others firmly , while revealing little of our own cultures and history .
Be respectful , and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show .
Given time , this can be relaxed .
If they do seem interested in colonization , prepare for war .
Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that , if broken deliberately , will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking .
But if this should occur , act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline .
Conversely , if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge , be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars , and let the borders be opened slowly .
Control their perception of us , so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with , rather than merely subjugate.A brilliant plan that does seem to cover all the bases .
Since we ca n't be sure of what they will be like , a policy of limited information sharing is the best tactic to insure they wo n't use our information against us in some way we have not considered .
But I 'd go even further , I 'd be firm , but not display any violent potential .
The best knife is one that is hidden after all and if they harbor the desire to conquer us anyway this will give us an advantage in the initial confrontation .
On the flipside if they 're peaceful then they wo n't consider actual violence .
The only downside is the edge-case where they are violent , but only towards apparent pacifists , which still gives us an advantage in battle after which they may well retreat .
Assuming they have something resembling human psychology.Personally whenever I see those Hollywood movies with friendly aliens , I wonder if ET 's mates are n't waiting in orbit around Pluto with " planet cracker " bombs in case things turn nasty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While a display of martial might would serve to make the earth look less available, it also risks making us appear savage and again, unintelligent.
It might make them feel justified in subjugating us and colonizing earth.
Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation.
We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history.
Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.
Given time, this can be relaxed.
If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war.
Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that, if broken deliberately, will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking.
But if this should occur, act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline.
Conversely, if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge, be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars, and let the borders be opened slowly.
Control their perception of us, so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with, rather than merely subjugate.A brilliant plan that does seem to cover all the bases.
Since we can't be sure of what they will be like, a policy of limited information sharing is the best tactic to insure they won't use our information against us in some way we have not considered.
But I'd go even further, I'd be firm, but not display any violent potential.
The best knife is one that is hidden after all and if they harbor the desire to conquer us anyway this will give us an advantage in the initial confrontation.
On the flipside if they're peaceful then they won't consider actual violence.
The only downside is the edge-case where they are violent, but only towards apparent pacifists, which still gives us an advantage in battle after which they may well retreat.
Assuming they have something resembling human psychology.Personally whenever I see those Hollywood movies with friendly aliens, I wonder if ET's mates aren't waiting in orbit around Pluto with "planet cracker" bombs in case things turn nasty.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242365</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With current multiculturalism policies, they would probably be paid by the various governments to settle here, entirely regardless of their dispositions.  Because it is racist to assume that they would be belligerent, and it is even racist to make them into an "other."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With current multiculturalism policies , they would probably be paid by the various governments to settle here , entirely regardless of their dispositions .
Because it is racist to assume that they would be belligerent , and it is even racist to make them into an " other .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With current multiculturalism policies, they would probably be paid by the various governments to settle here, entirely regardless of their dispositions.
Because it is racist to assume that they would be belligerent, and it is even racist to make them into an "other.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242115</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nanu Nanu</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nanu Nanu</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nanu Nanu</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242141</id>
	<title>The only thing we could do</title>
	<author>koan</author>
	<datestamp>1244397240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is welcome them, if they have tech that gets them to our planet then we aren't going to have any weapons to use against them, and hiding won't end it either.<br>In general I think if they are high enough up the ladder (of tech) to cross the gaps between stars we have more to gain than to lose by welcoming them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is welcome them , if they have tech that gets them to our planet then we are n't going to have any weapons to use against them , and hiding wo n't end it either.In general I think if they are high enough up the ladder ( of tech ) to cross the gaps between stars we have more to gain than to lose by welcoming them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is welcome them, if they have tech that gets them to our planet then we aren't going to have any weapons to use against them, and hiding won't end it either.In general I think if they are high enough up the ladder (of tech) to cross the gaps between stars we have more to gain than to lose by welcoming them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246519</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1244389920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Faux pas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Faux pas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Faux pas.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241813</id>
	<title>Read FootFall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244394960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone thinking about how we greet aliens should realize several things<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; a) anyone in orbit is in a very powerful position. Essentially the ultimate higher attack position.<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; b) anyone arriving in orbit has very advanced technology<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; c) kinetic energy</p><p>Read Footfall, it posits aliens with the barest of interstellar travel capabilities arriving<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone thinking about how we greet aliens should realize several things       a ) anyone in orbit is in a very powerful position .
Essentially the ultimate higher attack position .
      b ) anyone arriving in orbit has very advanced technology       c ) kinetic energyRead Footfall , it posits aliens with the barest of interstellar travel capabilities arrivinghttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone thinking about how we greet aliens should realize several things
      a) anyone in orbit is in a very powerful position.
Essentially the ultimate higher attack position.
      b) anyone arriving in orbit has very advanced technology
      c) kinetic energyRead Footfall, it posits aliens with the barest of interstellar travel capabilities arrivinghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Footfall [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242401</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>R2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1244399040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions."</p><p>I'm sure that's what some of the Native American leaders thought when they first saw men with guns.</p><p>Or the aborigines in Australia.</p><p>So, give all of history with intelligent, alien beings with advanced technology meeting beings of equal intelligence but better technology, you surmise that the next one will act 100\% different?</p><p>The race may not always go to the swift, nor the battle to the strong.</p><p>But that's the way to bet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If an alien race should contact Earth , I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions .
" I 'm sure that 's what some of the Native American leaders thought when they first saw men with guns.Or the aborigines in Australia.So , give all of history with intelligent , alien beings with advanced technology meeting beings of equal intelligence but better technology , you surmise that the next one will act 100 \ % different ? The race may not always go to the swift , nor the battle to the strong.But that 's the way to bet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.
"I'm sure that's what some of the Native American leaders thought when they first saw men with guns.Or the aborigines in Australia.So, give all of history with intelligent, alien beings with advanced technology meeting beings of equal intelligence but better technology, you surmise that the next one will act 100\% different?The race may not always go to the swift, nor the battle to the strong.But that's the way to bet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242641</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's called Rishathra if you do it with aliens.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishathra" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishathra</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's called Rishathra if you do it with aliens.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishathra [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's called Rishathra if you do it with aliens.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishathra [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242007</id>
	<title>Playing dead is not an option</title>
	<author>gweihir</author>
	<datestamp>1244396220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With all the incredible junk we have pumped out via radio waves, playing dead would be a certain way to send the wrong message. On the other side, it might be a good idea to keep all those currently in power and those wanting to be away from the microphone...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With all the incredible junk we have pumped out via radio waves , playing dead would be a certain way to send the wrong message .
On the other side , it might be a good idea to keep all those currently in power and those wanting to be away from the microphone.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With all the incredible junk we have pumped out via radio waves, playing dead would be a certain way to send the wrong message.
On the other side, it might be a good idea to keep all those currently in power and those wanting to be away from the microphone...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242279</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they are humanoid give them Internet access.  If tentacled then there are some "interesting" Japanese series. Insectoid then certain episodes from nature documentaries might fit the bill.  Oh if they DO have bills then "Howard the Duck"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are humanoid give them Internet access .
If tentacled then there are some " interesting " Japanese series .
Insectoid then certain episodes from nature documentaries might fit the bill .
Oh if they DO have bills then " Howard the Duck "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are humanoid give them Internet access.
If tentacled then there are some "interesting" Japanese series.
Insectoid then certain episodes from nature documentaries might fit the bill.
Oh if they DO have bills then "Howard the Duck"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243365</id>
	<title>Re:Find out what their motives for being here are</title>
	<author>mhs1973</author>
	<datestamp>1244406240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>they are orbs that engulf what they consume, and they communicate by fusing or changing colors and/or texture. But essentially as orbshaped beings they have no left or right side. So what now, space cadet?</htmltext>
<tokenext>they are orbs that engulf what they consume , and they communicate by fusing or changing colors and/or texture .
But essentially as orbshaped beings they have no left or right side .
So what now , space cadet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they are orbs that engulf what they consume, and they communicate by fusing or changing colors and/or texture.
But essentially as orbshaped beings they have no left or right side.
So what now, space cadet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28263397</id>
	<title>Go home, immigrant !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244547420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>(sorry, couldn't resist)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( sorry , could n't resist )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(sorry, couldn't resist)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247997</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1244493480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>So we've got guns. I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs.</i></p><p>I wonder how intimidated Captain Cook was by the primative weapons that killed him?</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James\_Cook#Third\_voyage\_.281776.E2.80.9379.29\_and\_death" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James\_Cook#Third\_voyage\_.281776.E2.80.9379.29\_and\_death</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So we 've got guns .
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs.I wonder how intimidated Captain Cook was by the primative weapons that killed him ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James \ _Cook # Third \ _voyage \ _.281776.E2.80.9379.29 \ _and \ _death [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So we've got guns.
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs.I wonder how intimidated Captain Cook was by the primative weapons that killed him?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James\_Cook#Third\_voyage\_.281776.E2.80.9379.29\_and\_death [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246553</id>
	<title>I second the call for math</title>
	<author>PotatoHead</author>
	<datestamp>1244390220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rather than make an expression, the simplest thing is to probably just start counting primes, round robin with the basic elements we know.</p><p>Announce it, move an object to show it visually, perform a movement, etc...</p><p>Like in Contact.  We heard the primes and knew there was some meaning there.</p><p>It could be our understanding is seriously misaligned with theirs for anything else.</p><p>And we do it nice and slow.  Call out one, then wait.  Call out three, then wait.</p><p>They know where the progression is, and we've opened the door for them to do something with it.</p><p>During the waits, we are paying attention the best we know how, and see where it leads.</p><p>An expression, like 2+2=4 is higher up the ladder than simple counting is.  Probably not the best way to start.</p><p>Unless we missed a day in school somewhere, primes are gonna be known, and a progression of them would be seen as meaningful structure.</p><p>From there, it's a matter of their senses being able to deal with our utterances, and ours to theirs.</p><p>I don't know about you guys, but if that were to come to pass, I think I would be scared shitless and excited at the same time.  Won't happen, but it's fun to think about.</p><p>Sometimes I work with my animals, or a very young baby and feel a bit of that.  Not the scared part with the animals, but sometimes with the baby.  Those first impressions last a lifetime!</p><p>I've managed to get into modes with the cat where we are looking at one another for a minute or so.  I always wonder what the cat is thinking at that moment.  Usually, animals look away quickly.  When they don't, and you actually get to read them a little, it's cool.</p><p>In any case, communicating with those different from us is always fun to think about.  We really are kind of lonely in that way, or we crave the learning that would come from that kind of experience.  At least I can cop to both.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rather than make an expression , the simplest thing is to probably just start counting primes , round robin with the basic elements we know.Announce it , move an object to show it visually , perform a movement , etc...Like in Contact .
We heard the primes and knew there was some meaning there.It could be our understanding is seriously misaligned with theirs for anything else.And we do it nice and slow .
Call out one , then wait .
Call out three , then wait.They know where the progression is , and we 've opened the door for them to do something with it.During the waits , we are paying attention the best we know how , and see where it leads.An expression , like 2 + 2 = 4 is higher up the ladder than simple counting is .
Probably not the best way to start.Unless we missed a day in school somewhere , primes are gon na be known , and a progression of them would be seen as meaningful structure.From there , it 's a matter of their senses being able to deal with our utterances , and ours to theirs.I do n't know about you guys , but if that were to come to pass , I think I would be scared shitless and excited at the same time .
Wo n't happen , but it 's fun to think about.Sometimes I work with my animals , or a very young baby and feel a bit of that .
Not the scared part with the animals , but sometimes with the baby .
Those first impressions last a lifetime ! I 've managed to get into modes with the cat where we are looking at one another for a minute or so .
I always wonder what the cat is thinking at that moment .
Usually , animals look away quickly .
When they do n't , and you actually get to read them a little , it 's cool.In any case , communicating with those different from us is always fun to think about .
We really are kind of lonely in that way , or we crave the learning that would come from that kind of experience .
At least I can cop to both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rather than make an expression, the simplest thing is to probably just start counting primes, round robin with the basic elements we know.Announce it, move an object to show it visually, perform a movement, etc...Like in Contact.
We heard the primes and knew there was some meaning there.It could be our understanding is seriously misaligned with theirs for anything else.And we do it nice and slow.
Call out one, then wait.
Call out three, then wait.They know where the progression is, and we've opened the door for them to do something with it.During the waits, we are paying attention the best we know how, and see where it leads.An expression, like 2+2=4 is higher up the ladder than simple counting is.
Probably not the best way to start.Unless we missed a day in school somewhere, primes are gonna be known, and a progression of them would be seen as meaningful structure.From there, it's a matter of their senses being able to deal with our utterances, and ours to theirs.I don't know about you guys, but if that were to come to pass, I think I would be scared shitless and excited at the same time.
Won't happen, but it's fun to think about.Sometimes I work with my animals, or a very young baby and feel a bit of that.
Not the scared part with the animals, but sometimes with the baby.
Those first impressions last a lifetime!I've managed to get into modes with the cat where we are looking at one another for a minute or so.
I always wonder what the cat is thinking at that moment.
Usually, animals look away quickly.
When they don't, and you actually get to read them a little, it's cool.In any case, communicating with those different from us is always fun to think about.
We really are kind of lonely in that way, or we crave the learning that would come from that kind of experience.
At least I can cop to both.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241939</id>
	<title>Communicate through imagery...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Simply show them LOLCATS and they will instantly become aware of the stupidity that is inherent to our species. They won't even bother enslaving us all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Simply show them LOLCATS and they will instantly become aware of the stupidity that is inherent to our species .
They wo n't even bother enslaving us all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Simply show them LOLCATS and they will instantly become aware of the stupidity that is inherent to our species.
They won't even bother enslaving us all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241787</id>
	<title>A notice of lawsuit.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244394780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Citing that evidence suggests that they have been monitoring earth broadcasts, and that their planet is not within the distribution zone of the earth's intellectual property, and that royalties must be paid immediately for the past 50-100 years of received carrier wave based entertainment that they have received free of cost.</p><p>Further, a gag order is hereby issued forbidding the aliens to discuss either this suit or the entertainment materials (hereto fore "content") with any other audience, known or unknown to the residents of earth, until after trial or settlement has been concluded,</p><p>Yadda yadda yadda</p><p>Give us all your money,</p><p>Signed, the MPAA and RIAA industries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Citing that evidence suggests that they have been monitoring earth broadcasts , and that their planet is not within the distribution zone of the earth 's intellectual property , and that royalties must be paid immediately for the past 50-100 years of received carrier wave based entertainment that they have received free of cost.Further , a gag order is hereby issued forbidding the aliens to discuss either this suit or the entertainment materials ( hereto fore " content " ) with any other audience , known or unknown to the residents of earth , until after trial or settlement has been concluded,Yadda yadda yaddaGive us all your money,Signed , the MPAA and RIAA industries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Citing that evidence suggests that they have been monitoring earth broadcasts, and that their planet is not within the distribution zone of the earth's intellectual property, and that royalties must be paid immediately for the past 50-100 years of received carrier wave based entertainment that they have received free of cost.Further, a gag order is hereby issued forbidding the aliens to discuss either this suit or the entertainment materials (hereto fore "content") with any other audience, known or unknown to the residents of earth, until after trial or settlement has been concluded,Yadda yadda yaddaGive us all your money,Signed, the MPAA and RIAA industries.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249027</id>
	<title>yet another viewpoint</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244461740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a member of a group who'd like to get off this rock, go to a different rock and make different mistakes than humans have made here.</p><p>Can ya give a brother a hand?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a member of a group who 'd like to get off this rock , go to a different rock and make different mistakes than humans have made here.Can ya give a brother a hand ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a member of a group who'd like to get off this rock, go to a different rock and make different mistakes than humans have made here.Can ya give a brother a hand?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242237</id>
	<title>The question is can we even communicate with them</title>
	<author>OriginalSolver</author>
	<datestamp>1244397900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We have no idea how extraterrestrials might see the Universe.  It is conceivable that we will not be able to communicate with them in any meaningful way.  Even if we can actually decoding their language(s) may take decades or centuries.  They may find our languages just as perplexing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have no idea how extraterrestrials might see the Universe .
It is conceivable that we will not be able to communicate with them in any meaningful way .
Even if we can actually decoding their language ( s ) may take decades or centuries .
They may find our languages just as perplexing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have no idea how extraterrestrials might see the Universe.
It is conceivable that we will not be able to communicate with them in any meaningful way.
Even if we can actually decoding their language(s) may take decades or centuries.
They may find our languages just as perplexing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242355</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>l3ert</author>
	<datestamp>1244398860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope that beings sufficiently advanced to be able to come visit us would be immune to such silly propaganda. And the idea that we would be able to defend ourselves in any way is laughable.

The best we could do if aliens showed off today is acknowledge to them that we are relatively immature and inferior but we would like to take the opportunity to speed up our evolution so that one day we may sit as equals to them.

If they are hostile, then so be it, it was a good 200,000 years, time to die.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope that beings sufficiently advanced to be able to come visit us would be immune to such silly propaganda .
And the idea that we would be able to defend ourselves in any way is laughable .
The best we could do if aliens showed off today is acknowledge to them that we are relatively immature and inferior but we would like to take the opportunity to speed up our evolution so that one day we may sit as equals to them .
If they are hostile , then so be it , it was a good 200,000 years , time to die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope that beings sufficiently advanced to be able to come visit us would be immune to such silly propaganda.
And the idea that we would be able to defend ourselves in any way is laughable.
The best we could do if aliens showed off today is acknowledge to them that we are relatively immature and inferior but we would like to take the opportunity to speed up our evolution so that one day we may sit as equals to them.
If they are hostile, then so be it, it was a good 200,000 years, time to die.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244543</id>
	<title>Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244372520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one, its a matter of money and willpower.</p></div><p>You sir, are confused.</p><p>The fastest man-made item <a href="http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/q0109c.shtml" title="aerospaceweb.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/q0109c.shtml</a> [aerospaceweb.org] reached 150,000 mph (41.67 mi/sec).  Voyager 1, launched in 1977, is going only 38,500 mph as it leaves our solar system.  The closest star to our solar system is about 4 light years away (5,800,000,000,000,000 miles away).</p><p>That works out to about 3,941 years to travel there at 150,000 mi/hr.</p><p>We definitely do not have the technology to accomplish or even begin that goal. We'd need a multi-generational ship, capable of growing food without sunlight.  It would need to survive longer than any culture or nation has by far.</p><p>So perhaps you understand why we aren't planning to visit other stars at all now?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one , its a matter of money and willpower.You sir , are confused.The fastest man-made item http : //www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/q0109c.shtml [ aerospaceweb.org ] reached 150,000 mph ( 41.67 mi/sec ) .
Voyager 1 , launched in 1977 , is going only 38,500 mph as it leaves our solar system .
The closest star to our solar system is about 4 light years away ( 5,800,000,000,000,000 miles away ) .That works out to about 3,941 years to travel there at 150,000 mi/hr.We definitely do not have the technology to accomplish or even begin that goal .
We 'd need a multi-generational ship , capable of growing food without sunlight .
It would need to survive longer than any culture or nation has by far.So perhaps you understand why we are n't planning to visit other stars at all now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one, its a matter of money and willpower.You sir, are confused.The fastest man-made item http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/spacecraft/q0109c.shtml [aerospaceweb.org] reached 150,000 mph (41.67 mi/sec).
Voyager 1, launched in 1977, is going only 38,500 mph as it leaves our solar system.
The closest star to our solar system is about 4 light years away (5,800,000,000,000,000 miles away).That works out to about 3,941 years to travel there at 150,000 mi/hr.We definitely do not have the technology to accomplish or even begin that goal.
We'd need a multi-generational ship, capable of growing food without sunlight.
It would need to survive longer than any culture or nation has by far.So perhaps you understand why we aren't planning to visit other stars at all now?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250425</id>
	<title>Surrender!</title>
	<author>EvilBudMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244472840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All you world belong to US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All you world belong to US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you world belong to US.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242177</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244397420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are assuming they have an individual psychology and a personal value system at least somewhat compatible with humans.</p><p>What if they don't have any concept of 'respect' or 'civility' and are instead all part of a distributed hive mind, where the concept of competition and individual personalities maybe doesn't exist?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are assuming they have an individual psychology and a personal value system at least somewhat compatible with humans.What if they do n't have any concept of 'respect ' or 'civility ' and are instead all part of a distributed hive mind , where the concept of competition and individual personalities maybe does n't exist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are assuming they have an individual psychology and a personal value system at least somewhat compatible with humans.What if they don't have any concept of 'respect' or 'civility' and are instead all part of a distributed hive mind, where the concept of competition and individual personalities maybe doesn't exist?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28253289</id>
	<title>Re:I second the call for math</title>
	<author>MoeDrippins</author>
	<datestamp>1244486700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've probably misunderstood you (and/or are misquoting you), so apologies for that, but...</p><p>&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...the simplest thing is to probably just start counting primes,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>&gt; Call out one, then wait. Call out three, then wait.</p><p>Since when is 1 prime, and 2 not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've probably misunderstood you ( and/or are misquoting you ) , so apologies for that , but... &gt; ...the simplest thing is to probably just start counting primes , ... &gt; Call out one , then wait .
Call out three , then wait.Since when is 1 prime , and 2 not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've probably misunderstood you (and/or are misquoting you), so apologies for that, but...&gt; ...the simplest thing is to probably just start counting primes, ...&gt; Call out one, then wait.
Call out three, then wait.Since when is 1 prime, and 2 not?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246553</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242727</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>Jack9</author>
	<datestamp>1244401440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>We treat people differently, sometimes even ATTACKING them, because their skin is a different color. We treat our females as second-class citizens. Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in, poisoning it with our industrial wastes, destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed, or because it suits us to do so, and damn the consequences.</p></div></blockquote><p>What's the rationale for requiring world harmony before galactic-expansionism?<br>The idea that equality between genders or "races" (which I can agree, is nonsense) can/should exist, is presupposition.<br>The sanctity of some prehistoric environment is not a given.</p><p>Star Trek has poisoned your mind, imo.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We treat people differently , sometimes even ATTACKING them , because their skin is a different color .
We treat our females as second-class citizens .
Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in , poisoning it with our industrial wastes , destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed , or because it suits us to do so , and damn the consequences.What 's the rationale for requiring world harmony before galactic-expansionism ? The idea that equality between genders or " races " ( which I can agree , is nonsense ) can/should exist , is presupposition.The sanctity of some prehistoric environment is not a given.Star Trek has poisoned your mind , imo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We treat people differently, sometimes even ATTACKING them, because their skin is a different color.
We treat our females as second-class citizens.
Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in, poisoning it with our industrial wastes, destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed, or because it suits us to do so, and damn the consequences.What's the rationale for requiring world harmony before galactic-expansionism?The idea that equality between genders or "races" (which I can agree, is nonsense) can/should exist, is presupposition.The sanctity of some prehistoric environment is not a given.Star Trek has poisoned your mind, imo.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243187</id>
	<title>How to greet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244404860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kill them and eat them.</p><p>It would be our only hope.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kill them and eat them.It would be our only hope .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kill them and eat them.It would be our only hope.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243553</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>ttyX</author>
	<datestamp>1244407680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uh by kicking him in the nuts?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh by kicking him in the nuts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh by kicking him in the nuts?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243205</id>
	<title>They Already Know We're Here</title>
	<author>PeeGeeDee</author>
	<datestamp>1244405040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There wouldn't be any point in hiding.  They'd know we're here.  They've probably been watching us for a long time.  They'd probably get here and back to their planet very quickly by physics we won't discover for yet another 1000 years.  And they're so far ahead of us that they don't need our planet or us, anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There would n't be any point in hiding .
They 'd know we 're here .
They 've probably been watching us for a long time .
They 'd probably get here and back to their planet very quickly by physics we wo n't discover for yet another 1000 years .
And they 're so far ahead of us that they do n't need our planet or us , anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There wouldn't be any point in hiding.
They'd know we're here.
They've probably been watching us for a long time.
They'd probably get here and back to their planet very quickly by physics we won't discover for yet another 1000 years.
And they're so far ahead of us that they don't need our planet or us, anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247223</id>
	<title>Pyramids</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244397420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...we'd be hard pressed to build a colony ship even if we dedicated the planet's whole productive and economic capacity into it. Even if we optimized it with those "keep me awake for a week" drugs and 100 hour work weeks....</p></div><p>What is needed is the right motivation.</p><p>Quite a while ago, Egyptians built Pyramids.</p><p>Chinese built the Great Wall.</p><p>Of course, it was "forced labor". Outright slavery. But they built something that still stands, awes and makes wonder how they really did it.</p><p>It \_will\_ take a lot of time, no doubt. A lot of innovations, inventions and sweat. But with the "right" motivation, mankind has shown its worth.</p><p>Now, what would possibly be the right motivation for interstellar travel?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...we 'd be hard pressed to build a colony ship even if we dedicated the planet 's whole productive and economic capacity into it .
Even if we optimized it with those " keep me awake for a week " drugs and 100 hour work weeks....What is needed is the right motivation.Quite a while ago , Egyptians built Pyramids.Chinese built the Great Wall.Of course , it was " forced labor " .
Outright slavery .
But they built something that still stands , awes and makes wonder how they really did it.It \ _will \ _ take a lot of time , no doubt .
A lot of innovations , inventions and sweat .
But with the " right " motivation , mankind has shown its worth.Now , what would possibly be the right motivation for interstellar travel ?
.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...we'd be hard pressed to build a colony ship even if we dedicated the planet's whole productive and economic capacity into it.
Even if we optimized it with those "keep me awake for a week" drugs and 100 hour work weeks....What is needed is the right motivation.Quite a while ago, Egyptians built Pyramids.Chinese built the Great Wall.Of course, it was "forced labor".
Outright slavery.
But they built something that still stands, awes and makes wonder how they really did it.It \_will\_ take a lot of time, no doubt.
A lot of innovations, inventions and sweat.
But with the "right" motivation, mankind has shown its worth.Now, what would possibly be the right motivation for interstellar travel?
...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</id>
	<title>Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we are actually noticed, the problem with the "freeze and play dead" suggestion is that it if it works, we risk convincing them that we are mostly harmless, unintelligent creatures. Earth then begins to look like a habitable, unoccupied planet ripe for colonizing.</p><p>While a display of martial might would serve to make the earth look less available, it also risks making us appear savage and again, unintelligent. It might make them feel justified in subjugating us and colonizing earth.</p><p>Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation. We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history. Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show. Given time, this can be relaxed. If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war. Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that, if broken deliberately, will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking. But if this should occur, act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline. Conversely, if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge, be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars, and let the borders be opened slowly. Control their perception of us, so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with, rather than merely subjugate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we are actually noticed , the problem with the " freeze and play dead " suggestion is that it if it works , we risk convincing them that we are mostly harmless , unintelligent creatures .
Earth then begins to look like a habitable , unoccupied planet ripe for colonizing.While a display of martial might would serve to make the earth look less available , it also risks making us appear savage and again , unintelligent .
It might make them feel justified in subjugating us and colonizing earth.Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation .
We should greet others firmly , while revealing little of our own cultures and history .
Be respectful , and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show .
Given time , this can be relaxed .
If they do seem interested in colonization , prepare for war .
Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that , if broken deliberately , will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking .
But if this should occur , act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline .
Conversely , if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge , be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars , and let the borders be opened slowly .
Control their perception of us , so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with , rather than merely subjugate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we are actually noticed, the problem with the "freeze and play dead" suggestion is that it if it works, we risk convincing them that we are mostly harmless, unintelligent creatures.
Earth then begins to look like a habitable, unoccupied planet ripe for colonizing.While a display of martial might would serve to make the earth look less available, it also risks making us appear savage and again, unintelligent.
It might make them feel justified in subjugating us and colonizing earth.Safest is probably a policy of partial isolation.
We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history.
Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.
Given time, this can be relaxed.
If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war.
Demand commitments to peace and respect for our territory that, if broken deliberately, will give us moral high-ground in counterattacking.
But if this should occur, act quickly to establish laws of war--display an aura of civility and discipline.
Conversely, if they are interested in an exchange of knowledge, be open and willing--say nothing of atrocities and wars, and let the borders be opened slowly.
Control their perception of us, so that we may appear to be a mixture of cultures that they could ally themselves with, rather than merely subjugate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243535</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244407560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, 2+2=4 in a system with 5 or more digits. If the aliens use binary, that sentence has to be 10+10=100. A lot of funny things can happen in the translation if you don't know what the other side means. Even among humans, we had examples where people didn't use the decimal system, let alone throughout the universe.</p><p>So you need a language, to establish the language that you are going to use</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , 2 + 2 = 4 in a system with 5 or more digits .
If the aliens use binary , that sentence has to be 10 + 10 = 100 .
A lot of funny things can happen in the translation if you do n't know what the other side means .
Even among humans , we had examples where people did n't use the decimal system , let alone throughout the universe.So you need a language , to establish the language that you are going to use</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, 2+2=4 in a system with 5 or more digits.
If the aliens use binary, that sentence has to be 10+10=100.
A lot of funny things can happen in the translation if you don't know what the other side means.
Even among humans, we had examples where people didn't use the decimal system, let alone throughout the universe.So you need a language, to establish the language that you are going to use</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247879</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>nizo</author>
	<datestamp>1244492340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are forgetting #4: they come in peace, wanting to see if they could make peaceful contact, but obviously we are illogical distrustful savages who shook our spears at them. Seriously, if they are sufficiently advanced and bother trying to communicate with us, that would imply to me that they don't want to wipe us out. How hard would it be for us to wipe out a primitive society on an island in the middle of the ocean without them even knowing we exist?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are forgetting # 4 : they come in peace , wanting to see if they could make peaceful contact , but obviously we are illogical distrustful savages who shook our spears at them .
Seriously , if they are sufficiently advanced and bother trying to communicate with us , that would imply to me that they do n't want to wipe us out .
How hard would it be for us to wipe out a primitive society on an island in the middle of the ocean without them even knowing we exist ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are forgetting #4: they come in peace, wanting to see if they could make peaceful contact, but obviously we are illogical distrustful savages who shook our spears at them.
Seriously, if they are sufficiently advanced and bother trying to communicate with us, that would imply to me that they don't want to wipe us out.
How hard would it be for us to wipe out a primitive society on an island in the middle of the ocean without them even knowing we exist?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242807</id>
	<title>We already send a THE message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244402040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We sent the most loud and descriptive message we can in the 1940's.</p><p>The message consist of multiple detonations of atomic weapons and send the following message: "We have the technology to destroy our planet and we are not afraid to use it."</p><p>No federation membership for us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We sent the most loud and descriptive message we can in the 1940 's.The message consist of multiple detonations of atomic weapons and send the following message : " We have the technology to destroy our planet and we are not afraid to use it .
" No federation membership for us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We sent the most loud and descriptive message we can in the 1940's.The message consist of multiple detonations of atomic weapons and send the following message: "We have the technology to destroy our planet and we are not afraid to use it.
"No federation membership for us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242193</id>
	<title>And the answer will be: zzaappp!</title>
	<author>thedirektor</author>
	<datestamp>1244397600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And the answer will be: zzaappp!<br>
<br>
Pro: Someone will finaly stand up to the MPAA/RIAA
<br>
<br>
Con: Earth will be in ashes, well maybe it's not that much of a con<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;).</htmltext>
<tokenext>And the answer will be : zzaappp !
Pro : Someone will finaly stand up to the MPAA/RIAA Con : Earth will be in ashes , well maybe it 's not that much of a con ; ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the answer will be: zzaappp!
Pro: Someone will finaly stand up to the MPAA/RIAA


Con: Earth will be in ashes, well maybe it's not that much of a con ;).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241787</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247525</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244401620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>speaking of cornfused. . .</p><p>the above poster isn't confused, you are. you're speaking in terms of current tech, he was speaking in terms of investment in future tech. noone in their right mind would suggest we attempt to reach the next star via solar sail, plasma drive or chemical propulsion. that's ludicrous.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>speaking of cornfused .
. .the above poster is n't confused , you are .
you 're speaking in terms of current tech , he was speaking in terms of investment in future tech .
noone in their right mind would suggest we attempt to reach the next star via solar sail , plasma drive or chemical propulsion .
that 's ludicrous .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>speaking of cornfused.
. .the above poster isn't confused, you are.
you're speaking in terms of current tech, he was speaking in terms of investment in future tech.
noone in their right mind would suggest we attempt to reach the next star via solar sail, plasma drive or chemical propulsion.
that's ludicrous.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241821</id>
	<title>Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>johannesg</author>
	<datestamp>1244395020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Freeze and play dead? Someone really should have thought of that \_before\_ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis. Those waves really don't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood.</p><p>As for talking about our guns, whoever shows up here has already demonstrated massively superior technology to ours (we are not showing up on \_their\_ doorstep are we?) so antagonizing them might not be such a great idea either.</p><p>So yeah, by all means let's throw a party and hope it isn't us that ends up on the barbecue...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Freeze and play dead ?
Someone really should have thought of that \ _before \ _ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis .
Those waves really do n't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood.As for talking about our guns , whoever shows up here has already demonstrated massively superior technology to ours ( we are not showing up on \ _their \ _ doorstep are we ?
) so antagonizing them might not be such a great idea either.So yeah , by all means let 's throw a party and hope it is n't us that ends up on the barbecue.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freeze and play dead?
Someone really should have thought of that \_before\_ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis.
Those waves really don't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood.As for talking about our guns, whoever shows up here has already demonstrated massively superior technology to ours (we are not showing up on \_their\_ doorstep are we?
) so antagonizing them might not be such a great idea either.So yeah, by all means let's throw a party and hope it isn't us that ends up on the barbecue...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28248255</id>
	<title>Freeze and Play Dead?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244452560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What makes these people think that because a life is not like ours that they will will harm us? We can be exactly the same, we could find life and destroy it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes these people think that because a life is not like ours that they will will harm us ?
We can be exactly the same , we could find life and destroy it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes these people think that because a life is not like ours that they will will harm us?
We can be exactly the same, we could find life and destroy it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28256545</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>bend over you green blooded slime balls we gonna tear ya a new one!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>bend over you green blooded slime balls we gon na tear ya a new one !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bend over you green blooded slime balls we gonna tear ya a new one!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244621</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>nmb3000</author>
	<datestamp>1244373120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The complete protocol was detailed way back in 1988</i></p><p>That's one option, though I think this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEz77hoQt9M&amp;fmt=18" title="youtube.com">revised protocol</a> [youtube.com] is better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The complete protocol was detailed way back in 1988That 's one option , though I think this revised protocol [ youtube.com ] is better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The complete protocol was detailed way back in 1988That's one option, though I think this revised protocol [youtube.com] is better.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243099</id>
	<title>Co-operation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244404380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that it is extremely unlikely that we face any physical threat due to physics, I would say we should certainly communicate, and do so through mathematics. Once we have a way to communicate using mathematics we should develop the ability to send pictures and sound and work on language. Any civilization that is developed enough to communicate likely faces similar struggles as we do, in terms of co-operation vs competition, and likely has the balance of society in the co-operation direction. This further reduces any risk and likely means that communication would be a very large net positive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that it is extremely unlikely that we face any physical threat due to physics , I would say we should certainly communicate , and do so through mathematics .
Once we have a way to communicate using mathematics we should develop the ability to send pictures and sound and work on language .
Any civilization that is developed enough to communicate likely faces similar struggles as we do , in terms of co-operation vs competition , and likely has the balance of society in the co-operation direction .
This further reduces any risk and likely means that communication would be a very large net positive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that it is extremely unlikely that we face any physical threat due to physics, I would say we should certainly communicate, and do so through mathematics.
Once we have a way to communicate using mathematics we should develop the ability to send pictures and sound and work on language.
Any civilization that is developed enough to communicate likely faces similar struggles as we do, in terms of co-operation vs competition, and likely has the balance of society in the co-operation direction.
This further reduces any risk and likely means that communication would be a very large net positive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245047</id>
	<title>Social distance</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244376300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Talking to an alien species would have a galactic equivalent of a "comfort zone".</p><p>Communicating across light years has a higher sense of safety, albeit at a cost of latency. Humans at least would be more inclined to make a sensible greeting including the most logical of introductions.</p><p>Something much closer, such as something appearing on the edge of our solar system and signaling with radio and low level lasers would get a more schizophrenic response, greetings from some, threats from others, and points in between.</p><p>Pop up in orbit with a obvious craft of any size, and even if it DOES NOTHING ELSE, the response would be truly psychotic. The nicest greetings imaginable (by the aliens) would probably involve them simultaneously reacting gently to various actions from the humans who went over the edge. Diplomacy!</p><p>If they're not amenable to conversation, we'd never get a reply. Genuinely hostile, and you'd never see it coming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Talking to an alien species would have a galactic equivalent of a " comfort zone " .Communicating across light years has a higher sense of safety , albeit at a cost of latency .
Humans at least would be more inclined to make a sensible greeting including the most logical of introductions.Something much closer , such as something appearing on the edge of our solar system and signaling with radio and low level lasers would get a more schizophrenic response , greetings from some , threats from others , and points in between.Pop up in orbit with a obvious craft of any size , and even if it DOES NOTHING ELSE , the response would be truly psychotic .
The nicest greetings imaginable ( by the aliens ) would probably involve them simultaneously reacting gently to various actions from the humans who went over the edge .
Diplomacy ! If they 're not amenable to conversation , we 'd never get a reply .
Genuinely hostile , and you 'd never see it coming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Talking to an alien species would have a galactic equivalent of a "comfort zone".Communicating across light years has a higher sense of safety, albeit at a cost of latency.
Humans at least would be more inclined to make a sensible greeting including the most logical of introductions.Something much closer, such as something appearing on the edge of our solar system and signaling with radio and low level lasers would get a more schizophrenic response, greetings from some, threats from others, and points in between.Pop up in orbit with a obvious craft of any size, and even if it DOES NOTHING ELSE, the response would be truly psychotic.
The nicest greetings imaginable (by the aliens) would probably involve them simultaneously reacting gently to various actions from the humans who went over the edge.
Diplomacy!If they're not amenable to conversation, we'd never get a reply.
Genuinely hostile, and you'd never see it coming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243857</id>
	<title>the logical answer...</title>
	<author>cosm</author>
	<datestamp>1244367660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>with hookers and blackjack!</htmltext>
<tokenext>with hookers and blackjack !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with hookers and blackjack!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243775</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244366760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...while revealing little of our own cultures and history.</p><p>I think you're assuming the ETs haven't been watching all our TV shows and commercials for the past 50+ years. (Grin)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; ...while revealing little of our own cultures and history.I think you 're assuming the ETs have n't been watching all our TV shows and commercials for the past 50 + years .
( Grin )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; ...while revealing little of our own cultures and history.I think you're assuming the ETs haven't been watching all our TV shows and commercials for the past 50+ years.
(Grin)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242505</id>
	<title>Send them this greeting...</title>
	<author>netglen</author>
	<datestamp>1244399700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send them this greeting in Intergalatic Common...</p><p>"All your base are belong to us!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send them this greeting in Intergalatic Common... " All your base are belong to us !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send them this greeting in Intergalatic Common..."All your base are belong to us!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242243</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>hibji</author>
	<datestamp>1244397960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing this is the same strategy employed by the native americans.  In the end, it never really mattered, only delayed things for a bit.  I think if the aliens were interested in colonization, we're pretty much screwed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing this is the same strategy employed by the native americans .
In the end , it never really mattered , only delayed things for a bit .
I think if the aliens were interested in colonization , we 're pretty much screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing this is the same strategy employed by the native americans.
In the end, it never really mattered, only delayed things for a bit.
I think if the aliens were interested in colonization, we're pretty much screwed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243719</id>
	<title>Very Simply</title>
	<author>Stan92057</author>
	<datestamp>1244366040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hello, from the planet Earth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello , from the planet Earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello, from the planet Earth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244025</id>
	<title>Tits or gtfo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244369220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that pretty much covers it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that pretty much covers it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that pretty much covers it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245245</id>
	<title>Spank Dog!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244377860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently we have been judged to be slightly less stupid/self-destructive/xenophobic/intolerant than we really are... given half a chance, I'd say, "take it".</p><p>Worst outcome: They realize their mistake and throw us out of the party. Best outcome: We grow up, get civilized, and end up dating some hot Romulan chicks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently we have been judged to be slightly less stupid/self-destructive/xenophobic/intolerant than we really are... given half a chance , I 'd say , " take it " .Worst outcome : They realize their mistake and throw us out of the party .
Best outcome : We grow up , get civilized , and end up dating some hot Romulan chicks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently we have been judged to be slightly less stupid/self-destructive/xenophobic/intolerant than we really are... given half a chance, I'd say, "take it".Worst outcome: They realize their mistake and throw us out of the party.
Best outcome: We grow up, get civilized, and end up dating some hot Romulan chicks.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243863</id>
	<title>Don't play games</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244367720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whoa! You just described my dating procedure!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoa !
You just described my dating procedure !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoa!
You just described my dating procedure!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242055</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1244396580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>As for talking about our guns, whoever shows up here has already demonstrated massively superior technology to ours (we are not showing up on \_their\_ doorstep are we?) so antagonizing them might not be such a great idea either.</i></p><p>I don't think that's a given. The only two things we're lacking in order to make a slow-boat colonization ship to another planet is:<br>1) Hibernation technology<br>2) The economic dedication required to do so</p><p>You can easily imagine an alien race within about 10-50 light years having both of these things available to them, and coming to earth. It's quite possible they'd come here and be utterly flabbergasted at cellphones and the Internet. I've been toying with a science fiction story based around that idea, but I'm not that great a writer.</p><p>Bonus: because of the travel time, at the time they began the trip, they probably wouldn't have been able to observe any evidence of technological civilization on the planet, so they'd be expecting to land somewhere uninhabited.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As for talking about our guns , whoever shows up here has already demonstrated massively superior technology to ours ( we are not showing up on \ _their \ _ doorstep are we ?
) so antagonizing them might not be such a great idea either.I do n't think that 's a given .
The only two things we 're lacking in order to make a slow-boat colonization ship to another planet is : 1 ) Hibernation technology2 ) The economic dedication required to do soYou can easily imagine an alien race within about 10-50 light years having both of these things available to them , and coming to earth .
It 's quite possible they 'd come here and be utterly flabbergasted at cellphones and the Internet .
I 've been toying with a science fiction story based around that idea , but I 'm not that great a writer.Bonus : because of the travel time , at the time they began the trip , they probably would n't have been able to observe any evidence of technological civilization on the planet , so they 'd be expecting to land somewhere uninhabited .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As for talking about our guns, whoever shows up here has already demonstrated massively superior technology to ours (we are not showing up on \_their\_ doorstep are we?
) so antagonizing them might not be such a great idea either.I don't think that's a given.
The only two things we're lacking in order to make a slow-boat colonization ship to another planet is:1) Hibernation technology2) The economic dedication required to do soYou can easily imagine an alien race within about 10-50 light years having both of these things available to them, and coming to earth.
It's quite possible they'd come here and be utterly flabbergasted at cellphones and the Internet.
I've been toying with a science fiction story based around that idea, but I'm not that great a writer.Bonus: because of the travel time, at the time they began the trip, they probably wouldn't have been able to observe any evidence of technological civilization on the planet, so they'd be expecting to land somewhere uninhabited.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28258507</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>ZyBex</author>
	<datestamp>1244463420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CONGRATULATIONS!</p><p>You're the 100.000th race on the galaxy! Click here to get your prize!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CONGRATULATIONS ! You 're the 100.000th race on the galaxy !
Click here to get your prize !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CONGRATULATIONS!You're the 100.000th race on the galaxy!
Click here to get your prize!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242563</id>
	<title>close encounters</title>
	<author>MickyTheIdiot</author>
	<datestamp>1244400180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>doesn't it involve hand signals and someone playing a really loud organ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>does n't it involve hand signals and someone playing a really loud organ ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>doesn't it involve hand signals and someone playing a really loud organ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244225</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1244370420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And all this is assuming the aliens live at the bottom of a gravity well like us. What if they naturally lived in microgravity from the start? Then they would have spaceships around the same time we developed water ships.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And all this is assuming the aliens live at the bottom of a gravity well like us .
What if they naturally lived in microgravity from the start ?
Then they would have spaceships around the same time we developed water ships .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And all this is assuming the aliens live at the bottom of a gravity well like us.
What if they naturally lived in microgravity from the start?
Then they would have spaceships around the same time we developed water ships.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244147</id>
	<title>Bend Over</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1244370000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The proper greeting requires one to drop trou and present one's anatomical Antarctica. What do you think all that anal probing was about? The reason they've just dropped all abductees right back off is because every time they've said 'hello', they were ignored. If we return the gesture properly we get the secrets of nuclear powered personal jet packs, flying cars, and chrome jump suits with big fins around the shoulders, just like in the pictures. Improperly, and the greeter goes FOOM. The difference is the little light bulb embedded in the tip. Good luck</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The proper greeting requires one to drop trou and present one 's anatomical Antarctica .
What do you think all that anal probing was about ?
The reason they 've just dropped all abductees right back off is because every time they 've said 'hello ' , they were ignored .
If we return the gesture properly we get the secrets of nuclear powered personal jet packs , flying cars , and chrome jump suits with big fins around the shoulders , just like in the pictures .
Improperly , and the greeter goes FOOM .
The difference is the little light bulb embedded in the tip .
Good luck</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The proper greeting requires one to drop trou and present one's anatomical Antarctica.
What do you think all that anal probing was about?
The reason they've just dropped all abductees right back off is because every time they've said 'hello', they were ignored.
If we return the gesture properly we get the secrets of nuclear powered personal jet packs, flying cars, and chrome jump suits with big fins around the shoulders, just like in the pictures.
Improperly, and the greeter goes FOOM.
The difference is the little light bulb embedded in the tip.
Good luck</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246419</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>sanotto</author>
	<datestamp>1244388720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We allready got all we need to keep an alien invasion out of question... atomic bombs... may be these weapons could not destroy them, but can and will destroy the entire earth, making it an inhospitable radiactive rock, not different to mars by example...that will preclude any posibility of colonization... on a side note: Humans are crazy enough to blow out their own planet to avoid been conquered... and in any case... if the alien try to exterminate us, and they are so advanced we can not stop them... well... see you in hell bastards...</htmltext>
<tokenext>We allready got all we need to keep an alien invasion out of question... atomic bombs... may be these weapons could not destroy them , but can and will destroy the entire earth , making it an inhospitable radiactive rock , not different to mars by example...that will preclude any posibility of colonization... on a side note : Humans are crazy enough to blow out their own planet to avoid been conquered... and in any case... if the alien try to exterminate us , and they are so advanced we can not stop them... well... see you in hell bastards.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We allready got all we need to keep an alien invasion out of question... atomic bombs... may be these weapons could not destroy them, but can and will destroy the entire earth, making it an inhospitable radiactive rock, not different to mars by example...that will preclude any posibility of colonization... on a side note: Humans are crazy enough to blow out their own planet to avoid been conquered... and in any case... if the alien try to exterminate us, and they are so advanced we can not stop them... well... see you in hell bastards...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242205</id>
	<title>Obvious:</title>
	<author>ViennaLen</author>
	<datestamp>1244397720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With the Vulcan salute, of course!</htmltext>
<tokenext>With the Vulcan salute , of course !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the Vulcan salute, of course!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242761</id>
	<title>How to greet an alien in nine easy steps.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244401740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. As a marine aviator, you shoot-down one of the invading force's attack pods using a jet fighter.<br>2. Crash-land your airframe in the desert a mere fifty feet from his craft.<br>3. Survive, completely uninjured mind you.<br>4. With no more effort than it takes to open an unlocked car door, board the craft to investigate.  (Alien must have forgot to push-down the little knob).<br>5. Realize that said alien is still alive and conscious.<br>6. Punch alien in the head just like you're Muhammad Ali, rendering it unconscious.<br>7. Exclaim to said unconscious alien, "Welcome to Earth!"<br>8. Sit outside and light-up a big, fat cigar and bask in your own awesomeness.<br>9. Go write a rap song at some point.  Avoid cursing in it, because you're above that shit.</p><p>Fuck yeah!  America rocks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
As a marine aviator , you shoot-down one of the invading force 's attack pods using a jet fighter.2 .
Crash-land your airframe in the desert a mere fifty feet from his craft.3 .
Survive , completely uninjured mind you.4 .
With no more effort than it takes to open an unlocked car door , board the craft to investigate .
( Alien must have forgot to push-down the little knob ) .5 .
Realize that said alien is still alive and conscious.6 .
Punch alien in the head just like you 're Muhammad Ali , rendering it unconscious.7 .
Exclaim to said unconscious alien , " Welcome to Earth ! " 8 .
Sit outside and light-up a big , fat cigar and bask in your own awesomeness.9 .
Go write a rap song at some point .
Avoid cursing in it , because you 're above that shit.Fuck yeah !
America rocks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
As a marine aviator, you shoot-down one of the invading force's attack pods using a jet fighter.2.
Crash-land your airframe in the desert a mere fifty feet from his craft.3.
Survive, completely uninjured mind you.4.
With no more effort than it takes to open an unlocked car door, board the craft to investigate.
(Alien must have forgot to push-down the little knob).5.
Realize that said alien is still alive and conscious.6.
Punch alien in the head just like you're Muhammad Ali, rendering it unconscious.7.
Exclaim to said unconscious alien, "Welcome to Earth!"8.
Sit outside and light-up a big, fat cigar and bask in your own awesomeness.9.
Go write a rap song at some point.
Avoid cursing in it, because you're above that shit.Fuck yeah!
America rocks!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242071</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Quinapalus</author>
	<datestamp>1244396700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree.</p><p>The fact is that the US military today could annihilate any army on that was on the planet in World War I. A mere 90 years of technological innovation separates the two. I doubt only 90 years of technological innovation separates us from any aliens we would meet. Now imagine a few thousand years of technological innovation! We'd have about as much chance of fending of aliens as the Australian Aborigines had fending off the British.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree.The fact is that the US military today could annihilate any army on that was on the planet in World War I. A mere 90 years of technological innovation separates the two .
I doubt only 90 years of technological innovation separates us from any aliens we would meet .
Now imagine a few thousand years of technological innovation !
We 'd have about as much chance of fending of aliens as the Australian Aborigines had fending off the British .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.The fact is that the US military today could annihilate any army on that was on the planet in World War I. A mere 90 years of technological innovation separates the two.
I doubt only 90 years of technological innovation separates us from any aliens we would meet.
Now imagine a few thousand years of technological innovation!
We'd have about as much chance of fending of aliens as the Australian Aborigines had fending off the British.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242293</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Daemonax</author>
	<datestamp>1244398200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Indeed. Also, if we allow ourselves to imagine beings with technology with allows them to create weapons that work at or close to the speed of light, we're not going to know about it until it hits us, as it'll arrive at the same time as the light from it arrives.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
Also , if we allow ourselves to imagine beings with technology with allows them to create weapons that work at or close to the speed of light , we 're not going to know about it until it hits us , as it 'll arrive at the same time as the light from it arrives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
Also, if we allow ourselves to imagine beings with technology with allows them to create weapons that work at or close to the speed of light, we're not going to know about it until it hits us, as it'll arrive at the same time as the light from it arrives.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244781</id>
	<title>Send Chuck Norris</title>
	<author>SlappyBastard</author>
	<datestamp>1244374500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send Chuck Norris.  He will present the aliens with a subpoena demanding that they allow us to bug their spaceships.</p><p>And as Chuck Norris departs the meeting, we will have Keyboard Cat on a jumbotron with really big speakers playing to send him off.</p><p>It's only fair that we let the aliens know what they're up against.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send Chuck Norris .
He will present the aliens with a subpoena demanding that they allow us to bug their spaceships.And as Chuck Norris departs the meeting , we will have Keyboard Cat on a jumbotron with really big speakers playing to send him off.It 's only fair that we let the aliens know what they 're up against .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send Chuck Norris.
He will present the aliens with a subpoena demanding that they allow us to bug their spaceships.And as Chuck Norris departs the meeting, we will have Keyboard Cat on a jumbotron with really big speakers playing to send him off.It's only fair that we let the aliens know what they're up against.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250663</id>
	<title>WOW</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244474220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After seeing World of Warcraft, they would understand that we have superior weaponry and armor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After seeing World of Warcraft , they would understand that we have superior weaponry and armor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After seeing World of Warcraft, they would understand that we have superior weaponry and armor.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245127</id>
	<title>When advanced human civilizations came into contac</title>
	<author>Larry\_Dillon</author>
	<datestamp>1244376960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When advanced human civilizations came into contact with less advanced human civilization, they most always took advantage of the technological disparity (think of the Spanish conquistadors, or just about any time Europeans came into contact with "natives").  It's nice to think that technologically advanced "aliens" would also be enlightened altruists, but, in a first contact situation, we'd be better off keeping our collective heads down and letting their actions speak for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When advanced human civilizations came into contact with less advanced human civilization , they most always took advantage of the technological disparity ( think of the Spanish conquistadors , or just about any time Europeans came into contact with " natives " ) .
It 's nice to think that technologically advanced " aliens " would also be enlightened altruists , but , in a first contact situation , we 'd be better off keeping our collective heads down and letting their actions speak for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When advanced human civilizations came into contact with less advanced human civilization, they most always took advantage of the technological disparity (think of the Spanish conquistadors, or just about any time Europeans came into contact with "natives").
It's nice to think that technologically advanced "aliens" would also be enlightened altruists, but, in a first contact situation, we'd be better off keeping our collective heads down and letting their actions speak for them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28263115</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>witekr</author>
	<datestamp>1244543640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's if you never accelerate once in space. Also, there's the Bussard ramjet idea, which could point to a solution to interstellar travel in the future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's if you never accelerate once in space .
Also , there 's the Bussard ramjet idea , which could point to a solution to interstellar travel in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's if you never accelerate once in space.
Also, there's the Bussard ramjet idea, which could point to a solution to interstellar travel in the future.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249501</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Cormacus</author>
	<datestamp>1244466960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slashdot needs a "+1 Literature Referece" mod.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot needs a " + 1 Literature Referece " mod .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot needs a "+1 Literature Referece" mod.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242641</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242289</id>
	<title>Puny Stink Ape</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We have long ago moved past your primitive false left-right dichotomies.</p><p>We now classify political views under a much more advanced 11-dimensional system where most people come out as Quantum Libertarians.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We have long ago moved past your primitive false left-right dichotomies.We now classify political views under a much more advanced 11-dimensional system where most people come out as Quantum Libertarians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have long ago moved past your primitive false left-right dichotomies.We now classify political views under a much more advanced 11-dimensional system where most people come out as Quantum Libertarians.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241853</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243833</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244367420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history. Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.</p></div><p>Yes, because that stops all information from leaving places like North Korea and China via the internet.  Remember, we broadcast the internet just like we broadcast everything else.  Anything they need to know, they'd know by the time they said anything.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We should greet others firmly , while revealing little of our own cultures and history .
Be respectful , and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.Yes , because that stops all information from leaving places like North Korea and China via the internet .
Remember , we broadcast the internet just like we broadcast everything else .
Anything they need to know , they 'd know by the time they said anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history.
Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.Yes, because that stops all information from leaving places like North Korea and China via the internet.
Remember, we broadcast the internet just like we broadcast everything else.
Anything they need to know, they'd know by the time they said anything.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243975</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244368740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're either a troll or you're not living in the US. I have lived in the southern US all my life (supposedly where all the sexism/racism is rooted), in both small towns and large cities and have met only one person that treats females as second-class citizens. I've heard about racism on television, and even seen a little bit of it coming from people of all ethnicities.</p><p>The rest of what you say I agree with, but the sexism/racism comments seem like trolling to me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're either a troll or you 're not living in the US .
I have lived in the southern US all my life ( supposedly where all the sexism/racism is rooted ) , in both small towns and large cities and have met only one person that treats females as second-class citizens .
I 've heard about racism on television , and even seen a little bit of it coming from people of all ethnicities.The rest of what you say I agree with , but the sexism/racism comments seem like trolling to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're either a troll or you're not living in the US.
I have lived in the southern US all my life (supposedly where all the sexism/racism is rooted), in both small towns and large cities and have met only one person that treats females as second-class citizens.
I've heard about racism on television, and even seen a little bit of it coming from people of all ethnicities.The rest of what you say I agree with, but the sexism/racism comments seem like trolling to me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245881</id>
	<title>I hope we can do better than guns</title>
	<author>fletchzip</author>
	<datestamp>1244383500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who says "we've got guns and know how to use them" really should be prevented from speaking on behalf of humanity.</p><p>Let's see how this appraoch might work out:</p><p>Aliens: "Hi"<br>Humans: "We've got guns and know how to use them."<br>Aliens: "We are communicating with you from a vehicle in orbit around your moon. Feel free to fire your missiles at us but at some stage during the week it takes them to reach our position we will move away. We will head back out to the Kuiper belt and begin nudging asteriods into your orbit."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who says " we 've got guns and know how to use them " really should be prevented from speaking on behalf of humanity.Let 's see how this appraoch might work out : Aliens : " Hi " Humans : " We 've got guns and know how to use them .
" Aliens : " We are communicating with you from a vehicle in orbit around your moon .
Feel free to fire your missiles at us but at some stage during the week it takes them to reach our position we will move away .
We will head back out to the Kuiper belt and begin nudging asteriods into your orbit .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who says "we've got guns and know how to use them" really should be prevented from speaking on behalf of humanity.Let's see how this appraoch might work out:Aliens: "Hi"Humans: "We've got guns and know how to use them.
"Aliens: "We are communicating with you from a vehicle in orbit around your moon.
Feel free to fire your missiles at us but at some stage during the week it takes them to reach our position we will move away.
We will head back out to the Kuiper belt and begin nudging asteriods into your orbit.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242445</id>
	<title>I know this one!</title>
	<author>the\_macman</author>
	<datestamp>1244399340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Show them you know math! You can't use numbers, those are human constructs. Although maybe you could use Roman numerals. You could try to use an XY system and draw something like sin or cos, although they may not understand our coordinate system. I think I'd go with using geometric shapes to represent PI or something. Like <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,368422,00.html" title="foxnews.com">this picture here</a> [foxnews.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Show them you know math !
You ca n't use numbers , those are human constructs .
Although maybe you could use Roman numerals .
You could try to use an XY system and draw something like sin or cos , although they may not understand our coordinate system .
I think I 'd go with using geometric shapes to represent PI or something .
Like this picture here [ foxnews.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Show them you know math!
You can't use numbers, those are human constructs.
Although maybe you could use Roman numerals.
You could try to use an XY system and draw something like sin or cos, although they may not understand our coordinate system.
I think I'd go with using geometric shapes to represent PI or something.
Like this picture here [foxnews.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242539</id>
	<title>if he is able to travel to the earth...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...then no words will be necessary, he will understand.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...then no words will be necessary , he will understand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...then no words will be necessary, he will understand.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243659</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>sa1lnr</author>
	<datestamp>1244365260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"So yeah, by all means let's throw a party and hope it isn't us that ends up on the barbecue..."</p><p>I vote for Slim Whitman's Indian Love Call for the music.</p><p>That'll show em we mean business.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" So yeah , by all means let 's throw a party and hope it is n't us that ends up on the barbecue... " I vote for Slim Whitman 's Indian Love Call for the music.That 'll show em we mean business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"So yeah, by all means let's throw a party and hope it isn't us that ends up on the barbecue..."I vote for Slim Whitman's Indian Love Call for the music.That'll show em we mean business.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242315</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why would they even need hibernation technology?  Maybe they are quite capable on their own of living for hundreds or even thousands of years at an entirely natural low-metabolism state.</p><p>So all they would need is: the economic dedication.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would they even need hibernation technology ?
Maybe they are quite capable on their own of living for hundreds or even thousands of years at an entirely natural low-metabolism state.So all they would need is : the economic dedication .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would they even need hibernation technology?
Maybe they are quite capable on their own of living for hundreds or even thousands of years at an entirely natural low-metabolism state.So all they would need is: the economic dedication.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242055</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242013</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or do you have a sister and how much pizza comes with her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or do you have a sister and how much pizza comes with her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or do you have a sister and how much pizza comes with her.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251995</id>
	<title>"All your base are belong to us."</title>
	<author>Ewann</author>
	<datestamp>1244481120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"All your base are belong to us."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" All your base are belong to us .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"All your base are belong to us.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244029</id>
	<title>Re:Tell them everything</title>
	<author>DynaSoar</author>
	<datestamp>1244369220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I suggest that we line up every piece of digital information that we have and send it all. They can get a half decent view of us that way, and maybe they will do the same at some point, giving us a world of information to sift through. Imagine the advancements if we can understand any of it, and imagine the generations of work if their language or thought is beyond us.</p><p>There's really nothing to be done if they are superior and malevolent and on the way, so why not assume they want to be friends?</p></div><p>Should they or we do as you say, offer a copy of everything digital, the other should consider that an act of aggression if not war. Sturgeon's Law applies: "90\% of everything is crap." Digital makes it so much easier to create that the 10\% is predominantly mediocre and the 90\% is crappier than ever before.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest that we line up every piece of digital information that we have and send it all .
They can get a half decent view of us that way , and maybe they will do the same at some point , giving us a world of information to sift through .
Imagine the advancements if we can understand any of it , and imagine the generations of work if their language or thought is beyond us.There 's really nothing to be done if they are superior and malevolent and on the way , so why not assume they want to be friends ? Should they or we do as you say , offer a copy of everything digital , the other should consider that an act of aggression if not war .
Sturgeon 's Law applies : " 90 \ % of everything is crap .
" Digital makes it so much easier to create that the 10 \ % is predominantly mediocre and the 90 \ % is crappier than ever before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest that we line up every piece of digital information that we have and send it all.
They can get a half decent view of us that way, and maybe they will do the same at some point, giving us a world of information to sift through.
Imagine the advancements if we can understand any of it, and imagine the generations of work if their language or thought is beyond us.There's really nothing to be done if they are superior and malevolent and on the way, so why not assume they want to be friends?Should they or we do as you say, offer a copy of everything digital, the other should consider that an act of aggression if not war.
Sturgeon's Law applies: "90\% of everything is crap.
" Digital makes it so much easier to create that the 10\% is predominantly mediocre and the 90\% is crappier than ever before.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250141</id>
	<title>We're just an asylum</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244471340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the ET is smart, they'll realize this planet is just one big loony bin, and put up warning signs.</p><p>I mean half or more of the people of the planet have an imaginary friend who they believes talks to them and while completely unseen helps them out when things go wrong, and tests their faith when he ignores them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the ET is smart , they 'll realize this planet is just one big loony bin , and put up warning signs.I mean half or more of the people of the planet have an imaginary friend who they believes talks to them and while completely unseen helps them out when things go wrong , and tests their faith when he ignores them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the ET is smart, they'll realize this planet is just one big loony bin, and put up warning signs.I mean half or more of the people of the planet have an imaginary friend who they believes talks to them and while completely unseen helps them out when things go wrong, and tests their faith when he ignores them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247695</id>
	<title>Why should we say hi?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244403720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In all movies, we say hi, they look at us and answer friendly or not... but from their point of view, we re the aliens...why can we just look at them and wait for them to say HI or.. "We are here to turn you into slaves and sell your planet to the Pluthyioneans"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In all movies , we say hi , they look at us and answer friendly or not... but from their point of view , we re the aliens...why can we just look at them and wait for them to say HI or.. " We are here to turn you into slaves and sell your planet to the Pluthyioneans " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In all movies, we say hi, they look at us and answer friendly or not... but from their point of view, we re the aliens...why can we just look at them and wait for them to say HI or.. "We are here to turn you into slaves and sell your planet to the Pluthyioneans"...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241815</id>
	<title>Yo Mama</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yo Mama's so fat, she's the reason Pluto was reclassified a dwarf planet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yo Mama 's so fat , she 's the reason Pluto was reclassified a dwarf planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yo Mama's so fat, she's the reason Pluto was reclassified a dwarf planet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249817</id>
	<title>Universal Greeting</title>
	<author>AWG</author>
	<datestamp>1244469420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't we already cover this in the original Transformers the Movie??
<br> <br>
"Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't we already cover this in the original Transformers the Movie ? ?
" Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't we already cover this in the original Transformers the Movie??
"Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242737</id>
	<title>Evolution works across the universe too</title>
	<author>BrightCandle</author>
	<datestamp>1244401500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Saying anything is a bit dangerous until we know their intentions. Evolution and the process of smarter cultivates dumber for food will continue throughout space. We could well become another cattle ranch in the universe. Its best to say nothing at all because its doggy dog out there in the universe.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Saying anything is a bit dangerous until we know their intentions .
Evolution and the process of smarter cultivates dumber for food will continue throughout space .
We could well become another cattle ranch in the universe .
Its best to say nothing at all because its doggy dog out there in the universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saying anything is a bit dangerous until we know their intentions.
Evolution and the process of smarter cultivates dumber for food will continue throughout space.
We could well become another cattle ranch in the universe.
Its best to say nothing at all because its doggy dog out there in the universe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241907</id>
	<title>What about UFO's?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should another civilization have the tech to be able to traverse space then what if they are watching us? Us humans like to think we have dominion over wildlife and we keep the exotic ones in threat of extinction in zoos. Well knowing how violent humans can be, what about us? Perhaps a higher intelligence already saw us and how we react towards ourselves and the environment. Perhaps they refuse to contact us due to this? Earth could be our "zoo" for all we know. Given that humans are prone towards self-destruction, what if we were labeled as a endangered species or an unknown tangent. Granted guns and bombs won't do much but don't forget the STOCKPILES of nuclear weapons powered by the very mechanics behind the sun itself. We could easily destroy our world with our current tech (and in some ways we already are).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should another civilization have the tech to be able to traverse space then what if they are watching us ?
Us humans like to think we have dominion over wildlife and we keep the exotic ones in threat of extinction in zoos .
Well knowing how violent humans can be , what about us ?
Perhaps a higher intelligence already saw us and how we react towards ourselves and the environment .
Perhaps they refuse to contact us due to this ?
Earth could be our " zoo " for all we know .
Given that humans are prone towards self-destruction , what if we were labeled as a endangered species or an unknown tangent .
Granted guns and bombs wo n't do much but do n't forget the STOCKPILES of nuclear weapons powered by the very mechanics behind the sun itself .
We could easily destroy our world with our current tech ( and in some ways we already are ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should another civilization have the tech to be able to traverse space then what if they are watching us?
Us humans like to think we have dominion over wildlife and we keep the exotic ones in threat of extinction in zoos.
Well knowing how violent humans can be, what about us?
Perhaps a higher intelligence already saw us and how we react towards ourselves and the environment.
Perhaps they refuse to contact us due to this?
Earth could be our "zoo" for all we know.
Given that humans are prone towards self-destruction, what if we were labeled as a endangered species or an unknown tangent.
Granted guns and bombs won't do much but don't forget the STOCKPILES of nuclear weapons powered by the very mechanics behind the sun itself.
We could easily destroy our world with our current tech (and in some ways we already are).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246609</id>
	<title>Obviously...</title>
	<author>hockpatooie</author>
	<datestamp>1244390760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong! (<a href="http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Universal\_greeting" title="wikia.com" rel="nofollow">Ref</a> [wikia.com])<p>

Can't believe no one posted that one yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong !
( Ref [ wikia.com ] ) Ca n't believe no one posted that one yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong!
(Ref [wikia.com])

Can't believe no one posted that one yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241873</id>
	<title>I would say...</title>
	<author>PhysicsPhil</author>
	<datestamp>1244395260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does your spaceship run on vacuum tubes?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does your spaceship run on vacuum tubes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does your spaceship run on vacuum tubes?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241899</id>
	<title>..Spam?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>..How do THEY handle spam?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..How do THEY handle spam ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ..How do THEY handle spam?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242383</id>
	<title>Hey aliens, got religion?</title>
	<author>trveler</author>
	<datestamp>1244398980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be (al?)mighty interesting to find out what exterrestrial conceptions of God and religion are. How many religions they have (if any), what their worship practices are...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... how much their gods like the taste of earthling flesh...

you know, that kind of thing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be ( al ?
) mighty interesting to find out what exterrestrial conceptions of God and religion are .
How many religions they have ( if any ) , what their worship practices are... ... how much their gods like the taste of earthling flesh.. . you know , that kind of thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be (al?
)mighty interesting to find out what exterrestrial conceptions of God and religion are.
How many religions they have (if any), what their worship practices are... ... how much their gods like the taste of earthling flesh...

you know, that kind of thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243027</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong question</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1244403780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Interstellar space travel is a stupendously expensive undertaking, and anyone attempting it will expect a return on their investment at the end.</p></div><p>OK, they wanna make a profit.  Really boring reason to do something that interesting, but OK.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>enslaved or slaughtered.</p></div><p>Slaughtered:</p><p>Not really profitable outside of GTA video games.  Either way you've expended all that fuel for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... nothing?  At best some taxidermy specimens for a museum?  Seems unlikely to run a profit.  The odds of a random species finding us tasty is about as likely as us finding another random species tasty (darn low, and lower the further you get genetically different).  Also a rather expensive trip to the supermarket.</p><p>Enslaved:</p><p>The silkworm trade was not brought out of China by stealing every freaking silkworm in the kingdom...  Technically you only need a sufficiently large breeding pool.  Probably, not a terribly large number.  Like an airliner full, maybe.  At most, a small village has been proven by unintentional long term experiment to be about enough.  So, why take us all, or even bother sorting out to take the "best"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Interstellar space travel is a stupendously expensive undertaking , and anyone attempting it will expect a return on their investment at the end.OK , they wan na make a profit .
Really boring reason to do something that interesting , but OK.enslaved or slaughtered.Slaughtered : Not really profitable outside of GTA video games .
Either way you 've expended all that fuel for .... nothing ? At best some taxidermy specimens for a museum ?
Seems unlikely to run a profit .
The odds of a random species finding us tasty is about as likely as us finding another random species tasty ( darn low , and lower the further you get genetically different ) .
Also a rather expensive trip to the supermarket.Enslaved : The silkworm trade was not brought out of China by stealing every freaking silkworm in the kingdom... Technically you only need a sufficiently large breeding pool .
Probably , not a terribly large number .
Like an airliner full , maybe .
At most , a small village has been proven by unintentional long term experiment to be about enough .
So , why take us all , or even bother sorting out to take the " best " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interstellar space travel is a stupendously expensive undertaking, and anyone attempting it will expect a return on their investment at the end.OK, they wanna make a profit.
Really boring reason to do something that interesting, but OK.enslaved or slaughtered.Slaughtered:Not really profitable outside of GTA video games.
Either way you've expended all that fuel for .... nothing?  At best some taxidermy specimens for a museum?
Seems unlikely to run a profit.
The odds of a random species finding us tasty is about as likely as us finding another random species tasty (darn low, and lower the further you get genetically different).
Also a rather expensive trip to the supermarket.Enslaved:The silkworm trade was not brought out of China by stealing every freaking silkworm in the kingdom...  Technically you only need a sufficiently large breeding pool.
Probably, not a terribly large number.
Like an airliner full, maybe.
At most, a small village has been proven by unintentional long term experiment to be about enough.
So, why take us all, or even bother sorting out to take the "best"?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241823</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243597</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>oGMo</author>
	<datestamp>1244407980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the scientist's/mathematician's/logician's fallacy.  You have a field of expertise which ostensibly can explain everything it encounters: except it never encounters anything it can't explain, because its nature doesn't allow these encounters to <i>happen</i>.  They are excluded as irrelevant or nonexistent.  Unfortunately, this doesn't necessarily mean they <i>don't</i> exist.</p><p>Consider, moreover, that the laws of reality <i>may not hold everywhere</i>.  What if universal constants are local?  What if pi is an even 4 in some places, and integers are irrational?  We've seen a very, very, very tiny corner of a universe that's incredibly huge.  Everything may be fixed, but then again, we don't have a lot of data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the scientist 's/mathematician 's/logician 's fallacy .
You have a field of expertise which ostensibly can explain everything it encounters : except it never encounters anything it ca n't explain , because its nature does n't allow these encounters to happen .
They are excluded as irrelevant or nonexistent .
Unfortunately , this does n't necessarily mean they do n't exist.Consider , moreover , that the laws of reality may not hold everywhere .
What if universal constants are local ?
What if pi is an even 4 in some places , and integers are irrational ?
We 've seen a very , very , very tiny corner of a universe that 's incredibly huge .
Everything may be fixed , but then again , we do n't have a lot of data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the scientist's/mathematician's/logician's fallacy.
You have a field of expertise which ostensibly can explain everything it encounters: except it never encounters anything it can't explain, because its nature doesn't allow these encounters to happen.
They are excluded as irrelevant or nonexistent.
Unfortunately, this doesn't necessarily mean they don't exist.Consider, moreover, that the laws of reality may not hold everywhere.
What if universal constants are local?
What if pi is an even 4 in some places, and integers are irrational?
We've seen a very, very, very tiny corner of a universe that's incredibly huge.
Everything may be fixed, but then again, we don't have a lot of data.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251715</id>
	<title>V series returning to ABC</title>
	<author>Johnny Mnemonic</author>
	<datestamp>1244479500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's one response:</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQoSCEMzJYE&amp;NR=1" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQoSCEMzJYE&amp;NR=1</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>Starring Morena Baccarin.  As a bad guy.  Man, is that genius.  I'd probably do whatever she told me to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's one response : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = LQoSCEMzJYE&amp;NR = 1 [ youtube.com ] Starring Morena Baccarin .
As a bad guy .
Man , is that genius .
I 'd probably do whatever she told me to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's one response:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQoSCEMzJYE&amp;NR=1 [youtube.com]Starring Morena Baccarin.
As a bad guy.
Man, is that genius.
I'd probably do whatever she told me to do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28253431</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244487540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Agreed, we are a shameful species!<br>In any case, it makes sense to observe and learn for a time.  If they have the ability to travel here immediately, well technologically we haven't much input and they can do as they please.  So hope for the best!<br>If we will be communicating via radio bursts of some sort, the extreme time frames between transmission and reception make any period of years spent researching the alien culture a tiniest of blips on the total time line...<br>On a related note, as our communication technology advances, we will cease to blindly 'broadcast' our television signals into the ether, as more targeted forms of transmission take over.  As such, there is a relatively brief window when our planet would even be detectable, if others were listening.<br>But at this point in our history, if I were an alien race observing us, I'd put a memo in planner to check back in a thousand years to see if we had finally evolved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , we are a shameful species ! In any case , it makes sense to observe and learn for a time .
If they have the ability to travel here immediately , well technologically we have n't much input and they can do as they please .
So hope for the best ! If we will be communicating via radio bursts of some sort , the extreme time frames between transmission and reception make any period of years spent researching the alien culture a tiniest of blips on the total time line...On a related note , as our communication technology advances , we will cease to blindly 'broadcast ' our television signals into the ether , as more targeted forms of transmission take over .
As such , there is a relatively brief window when our planet would even be detectable , if others were listening.But at this point in our history , if I were an alien race observing us , I 'd put a memo in planner to check back in a thousand years to see if we had finally evolved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, we are a shameful species!In any case, it makes sense to observe and learn for a time.
If they have the ability to travel here immediately, well technologically we haven't much input and they can do as they please.
So hope for the best!If we will be communicating via radio bursts of some sort, the extreme time frames between transmission and reception make any period of years spent researching the alien culture a tiniest of blips on the total time line...On a related note, as our communication technology advances, we will cease to blindly 'broadcast' our television signals into the ether, as more targeted forms of transmission take over.
As such, there is a relatively brief window when our planet would even be detectable, if others were listening.But at this point in our history, if I were an alien race observing us, I'd put a memo in planner to check back in a thousand years to see if we had finally evolved.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242317</id>
	<title>They're just here to serve Man ...</title>
	<author>ScrewMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1244398440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So we've got guns. I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs. If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react. If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.</p></div><p>Well, if you see a bunch of them walking around, holding a large book which they page through occasionally while staring hungrily at people<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... time to start worrying.
<br> <br>
Besides, we might get lucky and be able to bring down their force shields with a computer virus.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So we 've got guns .
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs .
If they wished to annihilate us , I wager they 'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react .
If an alien race should contact Earth , I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.Well , if you see a bunch of them walking around , holding a large book which they page through occasionally while staring hungrily at people ... time to start worrying .
Besides , we might get lucky and be able to bring down their force shields with a computer virus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So we've got guns.
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs.
If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react.
If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.Well, if you see a bunch of them walking around, holding a large book which they page through occasionally while staring hungrily at people ... time to start worrying.
Besides, we might get lucky and be able to bring down their force shields with a computer virus.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28248489</id>
	<title>Help</title>
	<author>mindflow</author>
	<datestamp>1244455380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Help</htmltext>
<tokenext>Help</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Help</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242831</id>
	<title>Tell them everything</title>
	<author>Crookdotter</author>
	<datestamp>1244402280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suggest that we line up every piece of digital information that we have and send it all. They can get a half decent view of us that way, and maybe they will do the same at some point, giving us a world of information to sift through. Imagine the advancements if we can understand any of it, and imagine the generations of work if their language or thought is beyond us.<br> <br>There's really nothing to be done if they are superior and malevolent and on the way, so why not assume they want to be friends?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest that we line up every piece of digital information that we have and send it all .
They can get a half decent view of us that way , and maybe they will do the same at some point , giving us a world of information to sift through .
Imagine the advancements if we can understand any of it , and imagine the generations of work if their language or thought is beyond us .
There 's really nothing to be done if they are superior and malevolent and on the way , so why not assume they want to be friends ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest that we line up every piece of digital information that we have and send it all.
They can get a half decent view of us that way, and maybe they will do the same at some point, giving us a world of information to sift through.
Imagine the advancements if we can understand any of it, and imagine the generations of work if their language or thought is beyond us.
There's really nothing to be done if they are superior and malevolent and on the way, so why not assume they want to be friends?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242025</id>
	<title>Hoovercraft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My hoovercraft is full of eels</htmltext>
<tokenext>My hoovercraft is full of eels</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My hoovercraft is full of eels</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241795</id>
	<title>Obligatory qoute</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244394900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All your base are belong to us?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All your base are belong to us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All your base are belong to us?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246973</id>
	<title>Already been done</title>
	<author>caller9</author>
	<datestamp>1244394420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The second we started broadcasting radio signals, we started talking to aliens. When we started having geostationary satellites we started beaming signals in a beacon that made it around a shadow of a satellite sweeping the earth's rotation and orbit. Which is not perfect coverage considering other bodies and the sun, still pretty good.</p><p>We can only hope they weren't listening.</p><p>Maybe the topic of the thread is how we can develop FTL travel to jam our previous signals before they reach the destination and instead explain that most of what is broadcast from our planet represents the worst of our culture.</p><p>Assuming one of Slashdot's readers is using a satellite internet service or possibly a wireless terrestrial connection, this discussion has made it there before any light-speed communications made after discovery.</p><p>So on behalf of our planet, please don't judge us by our average citizen, also don't visit for 500 or so years because we'll probably nuke you(which will tickle your ships..possibly recharging them via energy sink shields.) Then again if any of the show you've undoubtedly watched "X-Files" is accurate, please stop abducting stupid people and keep your genetic mutation virus to yourselves. Colonize some other planet congruous to your species that is uninhabited due to recent planetary cataclysm, please.</p><p>BTW: Enjoy the LOLcats.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The second we started broadcasting radio signals , we started talking to aliens .
When we started having geostationary satellites we started beaming signals in a beacon that made it around a shadow of a satellite sweeping the earth 's rotation and orbit .
Which is not perfect coverage considering other bodies and the sun , still pretty good.We can only hope they were n't listening.Maybe the topic of the thread is how we can develop FTL travel to jam our previous signals before they reach the destination and instead explain that most of what is broadcast from our planet represents the worst of our culture.Assuming one of Slashdot 's readers is using a satellite internet service or possibly a wireless terrestrial connection , this discussion has made it there before any light-speed communications made after discovery.So on behalf of our planet , please do n't judge us by our average citizen , also do n't visit for 500 or so years because we 'll probably nuke you ( which will tickle your ships..possibly recharging them via energy sink shields .
) Then again if any of the show you 've undoubtedly watched " X-Files " is accurate , please stop abducting stupid people and keep your genetic mutation virus to yourselves .
Colonize some other planet congruous to your species that is uninhabited due to recent planetary cataclysm , please.BTW : Enjoy the LOLcats .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The second we started broadcasting radio signals, we started talking to aliens.
When we started having geostationary satellites we started beaming signals in a beacon that made it around a shadow of a satellite sweeping the earth's rotation and orbit.
Which is not perfect coverage considering other bodies and the sun, still pretty good.We can only hope they weren't listening.Maybe the topic of the thread is how we can develop FTL travel to jam our previous signals before they reach the destination and instead explain that most of what is broadcast from our planet represents the worst of our culture.Assuming one of Slashdot's readers is using a satellite internet service or possibly a wireless terrestrial connection, this discussion has made it there before any light-speed communications made after discovery.So on behalf of our planet, please don't judge us by our average citizen, also don't visit for 500 or so years because we'll probably nuke you(which will tickle your ships..possibly recharging them via energy sink shields.
) Then again if any of the show you've undoubtedly watched "X-Files" is accurate, please stop abducting stupid people and keep your genetic mutation virus to yourselves.
Colonize some other planet congruous to your species that is uninhabited due to recent planetary cataclysm, please.BTW: Enjoy the LOLcats.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28253943</id>
	<title>why should they not be remote controlled machines</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244489700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>light, fast, and based on wave nature of light or ordinary EM waves bundled in some advanced constructs.</p><p>Why material beings?</p><p>What about "energy beings" ?</p><p>Maybe they can transfer consciousness into energy constructs that travel like EM waves through spacetime.</p><p>If so then they could be all around and we could never measure them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>light , fast , and based on wave nature of light or ordinary EM waves bundled in some advanced constructs.Why material beings ? What about " energy beings " ? Maybe they can transfer consciousness into energy constructs that travel like EM waves through spacetime.If so then they could be all around and we could never measure them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>light, fast, and based on wave nature of light or ordinary EM waves bundled in some advanced constructs.Why material beings?What about "energy beings" ?Maybe they can transfer consciousness into energy constructs that travel like EM waves through spacetime.If so then they could be all around and we could never measure them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242547</id>
	<title>Scary Thought</title>
	<author>fatman22</author>
	<datestamp>1244400060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There may be many worlds inhabited by those who fit our understanding of "intelligent". One of them has to be the oldest and/or most advanced. It may be us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There may be many worlds inhabited by those who fit our understanding of " intelligent " .
One of them has to be the oldest and/or most advanced .
It may be us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There may be many worlds inhabited by those who fit our understanding of "intelligent".
One of them has to be the oldest and/or most advanced.
It may be us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242323</id>
	<title>I'll get right on it</title>
	<author>Mannerism</author>
	<datestamp>1244398500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I figure this is right up there with planning what to do with the lottery money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I figure this is right up there with planning what to do with the lottery money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I figure this is right up there with planning what to do with the lottery money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244561</id>
	<title>It depends...</title>
	<author>ZiggyStardust1984</author>
	<datestamp>1244372640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... is him a Vulcan? A Klingon? Borgs? Capellans?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... is him a Vulcan ?
A Klingon ?
Borgs ? Capellans ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... is him a Vulcan?
A Klingon?
Borgs? Capellans?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241823</id>
	<title>Wrong question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The question presupposes that talking is the correct response.  If intelligent aliens visit us here in our solar system we can reasonably expect to be enslaved or slaughtered.  Interstellar space travel is a stupendously expensive undertaking, and anyone attempting it will expect a return on their investment at the end.  And if you believe in Vinge's technological singularity, the visitor will no doubt be from a post-singularity culture.  In that case your chances of being simply engulfed courtesy of that culture's hard-takeoff are close to 100\%.<br> <br>

So, forget talk.  Running or fighting are your choices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The question presupposes that talking is the correct response .
If intelligent aliens visit us here in our solar system we can reasonably expect to be enslaved or slaughtered .
Interstellar space travel is a stupendously expensive undertaking , and anyone attempting it will expect a return on their investment at the end .
And if you believe in Vinge 's technological singularity , the visitor will no doubt be from a post-singularity culture .
In that case your chances of being simply engulfed courtesy of that culture 's hard-takeoff are close to 100 \ % .
So , forget talk .
Running or fighting are your choices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question presupposes that talking is the correct response.
If intelligent aliens visit us here in our solar system we can reasonably expect to be enslaved or slaughtered.
Interstellar space travel is a stupendously expensive undertaking, and anyone attempting it will expect a return on their investment at the end.
And if you believe in Vinge's technological singularity, the visitor will no doubt be from a post-singularity culture.
In that case your chances of being simply engulfed courtesy of that culture's hard-takeoff are close to 100\%.
So, forget talk.
Running or fighting are your choices.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242745</id>
	<title>Easy</title>
	<author>krunchyfrog</author>
	<datestamp>1244401560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would grab my towel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would grab my towel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would grab my towel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243479</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1244407140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except it is not that big. Sure, it is a cheap bang for the buck but a kinetic bombardment doesn't get close to what a serious nuke can deliver. Both are far from what a 1000 tons meteor can do, however, but those have a speed that doesn't come just from Earth's gravitational speed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except it is not that big .
Sure , it is a cheap bang for the buck but a kinetic bombardment does n't get close to what a serious nuke can deliver .
Both are far from what a 1000 tons meteor can do , however , but those have a speed that does n't come just from Earth 's gravitational speed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except it is not that big.
Sure, it is a cheap bang for the buck but a kinetic bombardment doesn't get close to what a serious nuke can deliver.
Both are far from what a 1000 tons meteor can do, however, but those have a speed that doesn't come just from Earth's gravitational speed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247907</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244492580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about: "Long ride, eh? How bout a cold beer?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about : " Long ride , eh ?
How bout a cold beer ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about: "Long ride, eh?
How bout a cold beer?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246007</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Randle\_Revar</author>
	<datestamp>1244384760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only if both (all) parties are intelligent Hominids - that is to say, descended from the Pak (aka Homo erectus).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only if both ( all ) parties are intelligent Hominids - that is to say , descended from the Pak ( aka Homo erectus ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only if both (all) parties are intelligent Hominids - that is to say, descended from the Pak (aka Homo erectus).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242641</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247419</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you're making the assumption that they want Earth for whatever reason.  It is entirely possible a "bat-shit crazy" respose will only provoke a "if those crazy bastards ever get off that rock, they'll blow up everything.  Nuke them from orbit... only way to be sure."</p><p>I still think an attempt at peace would be the best option.  If we meet war-like aliens, Earth is likely doomed regardless of which side presses the big red button.  If we meet anything less than war-like, why make them angry?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you 're making the assumption that they want Earth for whatever reason .
It is entirely possible a " bat-shit crazy " respose will only provoke a " if those crazy bastards ever get off that rock , they 'll blow up everything .
Nuke them from orbit... only way to be sure .
" I still think an attempt at peace would be the best option .
If we meet war-like aliens , Earth is likely doomed regardless of which side presses the big red button .
If we meet anything less than war-like , why make them angry ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you're making the assumption that they want Earth for whatever reason.
It is entirely possible a "bat-shit crazy" respose will only provoke a "if those crazy bastards ever get off that rock, they'll blow up everything.
Nuke them from orbit... only way to be sure.
"I still think an attempt at peace would be the best option.
If we meet war-like aliens, Earth is likely doomed regardless of which side presses the big red button.
If we meet anything less than war-like, why make them angry?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242795</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250531</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>CarbonShell</author>
	<datestamp>1244473440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not to mention who knows if they will be there when we get there.<br>Plus all the things that could go wrong in between. 'Hey Bob, did we forget to Gas up at AlphaCentarui?'</p><p>And that is only if we know where we are going.<br>IIRC Sagen once compared the density in space is like if there were only two Bees over Europe.<br>If you are committing to a nearly 4k year journey, you better know that someone will be home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention who knows if they will be there when we get there.Plus all the things that could go wrong in between .
'Hey Bob , did we forget to Gas up at AlphaCentarui ?
'And that is only if we know where we are going.IIRC Sagen once compared the density in space is like if there were only two Bees over Europe.If you are committing to a nearly 4k year journey , you better know that someone will be home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention who knows if they will be there when we get there.Plus all the things that could go wrong in between.
'Hey Bob, did we forget to Gas up at AlphaCentarui?
'And that is only if we know where we are going.IIRC Sagen once compared the density in space is like if there were only two Bees over Europe.If you are committing to a nearly 4k year journey, you better know that someone will be home.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28257665</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Hamoohead</author>
	<datestamp>1244459640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Greetings, Overlords.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Greetings , Overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Greetings, Overlords.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241807</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Amazing Quantum Man</author>
	<datestamp>1244394960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah... the ZZ Top approach....</p><p>Warning them that we've got legs, and we know how to use them!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah... the ZZ Top approach....Warning them that we 've got legs , and we know how to use them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah... the ZZ Top approach....Warning them that we've got legs, and we know how to use them!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242637</id>
	<title>Repeat after me</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Gort! Klaatu barada nikto!"
</p><p>If its name isn't Gort, we're screwed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Gort !
Klaatu barada nikto !
" If its name is n't Gort , we 're screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Gort!
Klaatu barada nikto!
"
If its name isn't Gort, we're screwed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243777</id>
	<title>What about other intelligent life on THIS planet?</title>
	<author>Trerro</author>
	<datestamp>1244366760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would argue we've already taken the first step by teaching various primates sign language. This makes us perfectly capable of talking to other species - species extremely similar to humans yes, but different species nonetheless.</p><p>Next step? Dolphins. Dolphins have a complex language, call each other by name, and have an advanced social structure. The fact that a sonar component likely alters the "words" of their language much as body language does for us makes it language like nothing a human speaks... but that's exactly the point. We'd have to learn to use a language that probably isn't possible without the aid of technology (but tech that we can most definitely build), and we'd have to deal with the added challenge of dialects and the fact that there's no way there's a single global dolphin language - they're way too spread out for that. With dolphins were looking at a species of similar intelligence, MOSTLY similar senses, and an innate understanding that each other are in fact capable of speech, even if speech isn't quite the same thing for each species. This would be a huge step forward - we'd LEARN a language rather than teaching one, and one that's very different from human ones. We'd also get used to the idea that sometimes we need tech to talk in ways that the human body simply can't - and we'd have the first functional implementation of that field of tech.</p><p>If we can reach a point where it's possible to have a conversation with a dolphin, why not take it further? A few people have mentioned squid. We may not be able to fully "talk" to a squid, but we could probably achieve some level of communication - and as a squid's anatomy is a lot more alien to us than a dolphin's, that would be useful.</p><p>Now of course, there's likely to be even more significant differences between us and life on other planets... but if we already have experience in speaking to other species, then we're well on the way of being able to communicate with aliens. Like all technologies, you start with simple developments that aren't all that difficult with what we already have invented, and advanced the tech (and attached science) from there.</p><p>Of course, this all assumes that the aliens aren't so amazingly advanced that they can simply hand us tech to automatically understand what they're saying, in which case the answer to the question is "we don't do anything at all, they do." That's something we really CANT assume, especially if we're dealing with launching a signal to a destination light years away (which implies similar tech level) as opposed to them landing here (which means that at the very least, they're beyond us in vehicle development, and quite likely many other areas as well.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would argue we 've already taken the first step by teaching various primates sign language .
This makes us perfectly capable of talking to other species - species extremely similar to humans yes , but different species nonetheless.Next step ?
Dolphins. Dolphins have a complex language , call each other by name , and have an advanced social structure .
The fact that a sonar component likely alters the " words " of their language much as body language does for us makes it language like nothing a human speaks... but that 's exactly the point .
We 'd have to learn to use a language that probably is n't possible without the aid of technology ( but tech that we can most definitely build ) , and we 'd have to deal with the added challenge of dialects and the fact that there 's no way there 's a single global dolphin language - they 're way too spread out for that .
With dolphins were looking at a species of similar intelligence , MOSTLY similar senses , and an innate understanding that each other are in fact capable of speech , even if speech is n't quite the same thing for each species .
This would be a huge step forward - we 'd LEARN a language rather than teaching one , and one that 's very different from human ones .
We 'd also get used to the idea that sometimes we need tech to talk in ways that the human body simply ca n't - and we 'd have the first functional implementation of that field of tech.If we can reach a point where it 's possible to have a conversation with a dolphin , why not take it further ?
A few people have mentioned squid .
We may not be able to fully " talk " to a squid , but we could probably achieve some level of communication - and as a squid 's anatomy is a lot more alien to us than a dolphin 's , that would be useful.Now of course , there 's likely to be even more significant differences between us and life on other planets... but if we already have experience in speaking to other species , then we 're well on the way of being able to communicate with aliens .
Like all technologies , you start with simple developments that are n't all that difficult with what we already have invented , and advanced the tech ( and attached science ) from there.Of course , this all assumes that the aliens are n't so amazingly advanced that they can simply hand us tech to automatically understand what they 're saying , in which case the answer to the question is " we do n't do anything at all , they do .
" That 's something we really CANT assume , especially if we 're dealing with launching a signal to a destination light years away ( which implies similar tech level ) as opposed to them landing here ( which means that at the very least , they 're beyond us in vehicle development , and quite likely many other areas as well .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would argue we've already taken the first step by teaching various primates sign language.
This makes us perfectly capable of talking to other species - species extremely similar to humans yes, but different species nonetheless.Next step?
Dolphins. Dolphins have a complex language, call each other by name, and have an advanced social structure.
The fact that a sonar component likely alters the "words" of their language much as body language does for us makes it language like nothing a human speaks... but that's exactly the point.
We'd have to learn to use a language that probably isn't possible without the aid of technology (but tech that we can most definitely build), and we'd have to deal with the added challenge of dialects and the fact that there's no way there's a single global dolphin language - they're way too spread out for that.
With dolphins were looking at a species of similar intelligence, MOSTLY similar senses, and an innate understanding that each other are in fact capable of speech, even if speech isn't quite the same thing for each species.
This would be a huge step forward - we'd LEARN a language rather than teaching one, and one that's very different from human ones.
We'd also get used to the idea that sometimes we need tech to talk in ways that the human body simply can't - and we'd have the first functional implementation of that field of tech.If we can reach a point where it's possible to have a conversation with a dolphin, why not take it further?
A few people have mentioned squid.
We may not be able to fully "talk" to a squid, but we could probably achieve some level of communication - and as a squid's anatomy is a lot more alien to us than a dolphin's, that would be useful.Now of course, there's likely to be even more significant differences between us and life on other planets... but if we already have experience in speaking to other species, then we're well on the way of being able to communicate with aliens.
Like all technologies, you start with simple developments that aren't all that difficult with what we already have invented, and advanced the tech (and attached science) from there.Of course, this all assumes that the aliens aren't so amazingly advanced that they can simply hand us tech to automatically understand what they're saying, in which case the answer to the question is "we don't do anything at all, they do.
" That's something we really CANT assume, especially if we're dealing with launching a signal to a destination light years away (which implies similar tech level) as opposed to them landing here (which means that at the very least, they're beyond us in vehicle development, and quite likely many other areas as well.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243969</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244368680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone who cites Game theory for dealing with peaceful and God powerful aliens is already bat shit crazy.
A very paranoid and schizophrenic way of thinking (John Nash).
Any alien race advanced enough to go wandering the stars HAS ALREADY FOUND PEACE AT HOME.
No domestically waring race would divert resources to traveling almost infinite distances looking for a new fight.
If we were to show ANY aggression it is US that would suffer.
I always find it funny that we think aliens would come to the Earth to visit humans. How about them coming to visit the Earth with it's unique climate and beautiful variety of animals, plants, insects, single cell, marine life (that we are trying our best to destroy).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who cites Game theory for dealing with peaceful and God powerful aliens is already bat shit crazy .
A very paranoid and schizophrenic way of thinking ( John Nash ) .
Any alien race advanced enough to go wandering the stars HAS ALREADY FOUND PEACE AT HOME .
No domestically waring race would divert resources to traveling almost infinite distances looking for a new fight .
If we were to show ANY aggression it is US that would suffer .
I always find it funny that we think aliens would come to the Earth to visit humans .
How about them coming to visit the Earth with it 's unique climate and beautiful variety of animals , plants , insects , single cell , marine life ( that we are trying our best to destroy ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who cites Game theory for dealing with peaceful and God powerful aliens is already bat shit crazy.
A very paranoid and schizophrenic way of thinking (John Nash).
Any alien race advanced enough to go wandering the stars HAS ALREADY FOUND PEACE AT HOME.
No domestically waring race would divert resources to traveling almost infinite distances looking for a new fight.
If we were to show ANY aggression it is US that would suffer.
I always find it funny that we think aliens would come to the Earth to visit humans.
How about them coming to visit the Earth with it's unique climate and beautiful variety of animals, plants, insects, single cell, marine life (that we are trying our best to destroy).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242795</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247847</id>
	<title>Use universal language of prime numbers</title>
	<author>OutputLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1244491980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I will use <a href="http://math.dartmouth.edu/~carlp/PDF/extraterrestrial.pdf" title="dartmouth.edu" rel="nofollow">the universal language of prime numbers</a> [dartmouth.edu] <br> <br>
<a href="http://outputlogic.com/" title="outputlogic.com" rel="nofollow">OutputLogic</a> [outputlogic.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I will use the universal language of prime numbers [ dartmouth.edu ] OutputLogic [ outputlogic.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will use the universal language of prime numbers [dartmouth.edu]  
OutputLogic [outputlogic.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247053</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or does 10 gargle 10 barble 100?  I can't argue that basic mathematical principles are different within our system of mathematics, but saying that 2+2=4 everywhere implies that we humans have worked out an understanding of something universal.  Math isn't a universal construct, it's only a consistent one, and even then only within itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or does 10 gargle 10 barble 100 ?
I ca n't argue that basic mathematical principles are different within our system of mathematics , but saying that 2 + 2 = 4 everywhere implies that we humans have worked out an understanding of something universal .
Math is n't a universal construct , it 's only a consistent one , and even then only within itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or does 10 gargle 10 barble 100?
I can't argue that basic mathematical principles are different within our system of mathematics, but saying that 2+2=4 everywhere implies that we humans have worked out an understanding of something universal.
Math isn't a universal construct, it's only a consistent one, and even then only within itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247805</id>
	<title>Re:No one seems to have mentioned this.......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244491440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, to me, life and technology are the most interesting things one might find in the universe. If they weren't interested in that, why would they travel the universe? It doesn't look like there is anything else interesting in our solar system...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , to me , life and technology are the most interesting things one might find in the universe .
If they were n't interested in that , why would they travel the universe ?
It does n't look like there is anything else interesting in our solar system.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, to me, life and technology are the most interesting things one might find in the universe.
If they weren't interested in that, why would they travel the universe?
It doesn't look like there is anything else interesting in our solar system...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28248509</id>
	<title>Following protocol...</title>
	<author>GrimDanFango</author>
	<datestamp>1244455620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Approach with gun-ports open as a sign of respect...

What could possibly go wrong!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Approach with gun-ports open as a sign of respect.. . What could possibly go wrong !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Approach with gun-ports open as a sign of respect...

What could possibly go wrong!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247607</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>fractoid</author>
	<datestamp>1244402460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No domestically waring race would divert resources to traveling almost infinite distances looking for a new fight.</p></div><p>Whuh? How'd you get that? I don't see an event like the invention of a practicable hyperdrive having that sort of effect on us war-crazy buggers, why should it affect aliens that way?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No domestically waring race would divert resources to traveling almost infinite distances looking for a new fight.Whuh ?
How 'd you get that ?
I do n't see an event like the invention of a practicable hyperdrive having that sort of effect on us war-crazy buggers , why should it affect aliens that way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No domestically waring race would divert resources to traveling almost infinite distances looking for a new fight.Whuh?
How'd you get that?
I don't see an event like the invention of a practicable hyperdrive having that sort of effect on us war-crazy buggers, why should it affect aliens that way?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243969</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243819</id>
	<title>Re:Transformers</title>
	<author>julesh</author>
	<datestamp>1244367240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I can't believe no one has said this yet</i></p><p>That would be because it isn't true.  The first bah weep grana weep nini bong post was nearly half an hour before yours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe no one has said this yetThat would be because it is n't true .
The first bah weep grana weep nini bong post was nearly half an hour before yours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe no one has said this yetThat would be because it isn't true.
The first bah weep grana weep nini bong post was nearly half an hour before yours.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242639</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242211</id>
	<title>Sticks and stones</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1244397780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... preferably Rosetta ones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... preferably Rosetta ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... preferably Rosetta ones.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243673</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>nscott89</author>
	<datestamp>1244365440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our only option now would be to nuke the planet and hide underground and make it look like we are dead...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our only option now would be to nuke the planet and hide underground and make it look like we are dead.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our only option now would be to nuke the planet and hide underground and make it look like we are dead...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242261</id>
	<title>"Beyond Earth"</title>
	<author>TheCreeep</author>
	<datestamp>1244398080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's all this talk about finding intelligent lifeforms "beyond Earth". Shouldn't we really make an effort to find intelligence life on Earth first?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's all this talk about finding intelligent lifeforms " beyond Earth " .
Should n't we really make an effort to find intelligence life on Earth first ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's all this talk about finding intelligent lifeforms "beyond Earth".
Shouldn't we really make an effort to find intelligence life on Earth first?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242817</id>
	<title>Problem in bed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244402160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ashamed of your 15 inches?</p><p>Come visit our little blue planet and all the ladies in the neighborhood will be yours!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ashamed of your 15 inches ? Come visit our little blue planet and all the ladies in the neighborhood will be yours !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ashamed of your 15 inches?Come visit our little blue planet and all the ladies in the neighborhood will be yours!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243919</id>
	<title>Thats easy Capt</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244368260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We come in Peace - phasers on Kill !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We come in Peace - phasers on Kill !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We come in Peace - phasers on Kill !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244731</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Geirzinho</author>
	<datestamp>1244374140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think your average scenario #2 Decepticon would be more likely to make some super greasy popcorn and watch...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think your average scenario # 2 Decepticon would be more likely to make some super greasy popcorn and watch.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think your average scenario #2 Decepticon would be more likely to make some super greasy popcorn and watch...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242795</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245581</id>
	<title>Culture Preservation Park</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244380920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make earth into a culture reserve.  In this way we / our government can reap benefits from alien contact while still being able to police alien visitations and limit exploitative interactions using "culture preservation" as a veil.  Yes, tourists will be seen from time to time, but our culture can be made remarkably resistant to these incidents by spreading ridicule, official denial and some intimidation.  This seems to have worked quite well for about 60 years now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make earth into a culture reserve .
In this way we / our government can reap benefits from alien contact while still being able to police alien visitations and limit exploitative interactions using " culture preservation " as a veil .
Yes , tourists will be seen from time to time , but our culture can be made remarkably resistant to these incidents by spreading ridicule , official denial and some intimidation .
This seems to have worked quite well for about 60 years now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make earth into a culture reserve.
In this way we / our government can reap benefits from alien contact while still being able to police alien visitations and limit exploitative interactions using "culture preservation" as a veil.
Yes, tourists will be seen from time to time, but our culture can be made remarkably resistant to these incidents by spreading ridicule, official denial and some intimidation.
This seems to have worked quite well for about 60 years now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28273877</id>
	<title>Symbols, symbols, symbols</title>
	<author>nixdroid</author>
	<datestamp>1244556540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>First, I would hand them a ruler, then a protractor.  In effect, "We use symbols to communicate".  If I didn't have those handy, I would show them some money.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First , I would hand them a ruler , then a protractor .
In effect , " We use symbols to communicate " .
If I did n't have those handy , I would show them some money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, I would hand them a ruler, then a protractor.
In effect, "We use symbols to communicate".
If I didn't have those handy, I would show them some money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246239</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244387160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mmmmmm.... space manatee</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mmmmmm.... space manatee</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mmmmmm.... space manatee</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247109</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Out of all the numbers out of all the possible dimensional spaces and topologies, do you really think they'll identify that the sequence of numbers you're spattering at them are discrete integers of a single dimension?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Out of all the numbers out of all the possible dimensional spaces and topologies , do you really think they 'll identify that the sequence of numbers you 're spattering at them are discrete integers of a single dimension ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Out of all the numbers out of all the possible dimensional spaces and topologies, do you really think they'll identify that the sequence of numbers you're spattering at them are discrete integers of a single dimension?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244001</id>
	<title>Well...</title>
	<author>rockwood</author>
	<datestamp>1244368980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure what I'd say, but I'd defintely have my towel with me for the trip.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure what I 'd say , but I 'd defintely have my towel with me for the trip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure what I'd say, but I'd defintely have my towel with me for the trip.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242581</id>
	<title>how to talk .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you think about it this problem has been sovled by every parent that has raised a child . It might not be the most efficient way but it works .<br>We can assume that if they arrived here and did not immeadiately destroy us , that they are as interested in communicating as we are and are inteligent enough to recognise our attempts to teach them our language or learn theirs and to cooperate and help .</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think about it this problem has been sovled by every parent that has raised a child .
It might not be the most efficient way but it works .We can assume that if they arrived here and did not immeadiately destroy us , that they are as interested in communicating as we are and are inteligent enough to recognise our attempts to teach them our language or learn theirs and to cooperate and help .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think about it this problem has been sovled by every parent that has raised a child .
It might not be the most efficient way but it works .We can assume that if they arrived here and did not immeadiately destroy us , that they are as interested in communicating as we are and are inteligent enough to recognise our attempts to teach them our language or learn theirs and to cooperate and help .</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28259123</id>
	<title>"KLAATU BORADA NIKTO"... apk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><div class="quote"><p><b>"We're still just slightly smarter animals at heart, once you strip away the thin veneer of technology and what we laughingly call "civilization". We can't even get along with OURSELVES and our own differences let alone a race that didn't evolve here. We're bigoted, racist, and sexist: We can't decide, AS A RACE, whether we owe our existence to one supernatural being or another, or did we evolve? We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that. We treat people differently, sometimes even ATTACKING them, because their skin is a different color. We treat our females as second-class citizens. Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in, poisoning it with our industrial wastes, destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed, or because it suits us to do so, and damn the consequences."</b> - by kheldan (1460303) on Sunday June 07, @12:36PM (#28242001)</p></div><p>Agreed, 110\%... because, if I were looking down @ us/observing us? I'd state "that solar system is to be banned &amp; avoided, it is a house full of the 'viruses of the spirit'", basically.</p><p>(And, it is SUCH an f'ing shame, but you're pointing out EXACTLY who we are, most of the time (though William Shakespeare said it best "How like a God man is in contemplation, &amp; how like a beast in apprehension" etc. et al, we DO have our "good side" too, but it's not always apparent, or the reasons for being good are actually quite petty ones, rather than sincere ones, unfortunately))</p><p>I.E.-&gt; Imo, @ least? FIRST?? We need to "mature/grow up" as a species, as cliche as that sounds.</p><p>APK</p><p>P.S.=&gt; I've often said that to my pals, my initial statement - that IF I were looking down &amp; observing us? I would probably go to our governments worldwide &amp; tell them "IF you don't learn to live with one another, peacefully &amp; in cooperation for the good of all? YOU STAY DOWN THERE, or we blow you away... our children play out here, &amp; we want NONE of your "space ghetto" violence &amp; mental poison spreading to our kids. You have been warned..." , pretty much like Michael Rennie said as KLAATU, in the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (great flick, the original, that is - says a HELL of a lot!)... apk</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" We 're still just slightly smarter animals at heart , once you strip away the thin veneer of technology and what we laughingly call " civilization " .
We ca n't even get along with OURSELVES and our own differences let alone a race that did n't evolve here .
We 're bigoted , racist , and sexist : We ca n't decide , AS A RACE , whether we owe our existence to one supernatural being or another , or did we evolve ?
We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that .
We treat people differently , sometimes even ATTACKING them , because their skin is a different color .
We treat our females as second-class citizens .
Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in , poisoning it with our industrial wastes , destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed , or because it suits us to do so , and damn the consequences .
" - by kheldan ( 1460303 ) on Sunday June 07 , @ 12 : 36PM ( # 28242001 ) Agreed , 110 \ % ... because , if I were looking down @ us/observing us ?
I 'd state " that solar system is to be banned &amp; avoided , it is a house full of the 'viruses of the spirit ' " , basically .
( And , it is SUCH an f'ing shame , but you 're pointing out EXACTLY who we are , most of the time ( though William Shakespeare said it best " How like a God man is in contemplation , &amp; how like a beast in apprehension " etc .
et al , we DO have our " good side " too , but it 's not always apparent , or the reasons for being good are actually quite petty ones , rather than sincere ones , unfortunately ) ) I.E.- &gt; Imo , @ least ?
FIRST ? ? We need to " mature/grow up " as a species , as cliche as that sounds.APKP.S. = &gt; I 've often said that to my pals , my initial statement - that IF I were looking down &amp; observing us ?
I would probably go to our governments worldwide &amp; tell them " IF you do n't learn to live with one another , peacefully &amp; in cooperation for the good of all ?
YOU STAY DOWN THERE , or we blow you away... our children play out here , &amp; we want NONE of your " space ghetto " violence &amp; mental poison spreading to our kids .
You have been warned... " , pretty much like Michael Rennie said as KLAATU , in the original " The Day the Earth Stood Still " ( great flick , the original , that is - says a HELL of a lot ! ) .. .
apk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"We're still just slightly smarter animals at heart, once you strip away the thin veneer of technology and what we laughingly call "civilization".
We can't even get along with OURSELVES and our own differences let alone a race that didn't evolve here.
We're bigoted, racist, and sexist: We can't decide, AS A RACE, whether we owe our existence to one supernatural being or another, or did we evolve?
We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that.
We treat people differently, sometimes even ATTACKING them, because their skin is a different color.
We treat our females as second-class citizens.
Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in, poisoning it with our industrial wastes, destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed, or because it suits us to do so, and damn the consequences.
" - by kheldan (1460303) on Sunday June 07, @12:36PM (#28242001)Agreed, 110\%... because, if I were looking down @ us/observing us?
I'd state "that solar system is to be banned &amp; avoided, it is a house full of the 'viruses of the spirit'", basically.
(And, it is SUCH an f'ing shame, but you're pointing out EXACTLY who we are, most of the time (though William Shakespeare said it best "How like a God man is in contemplation, &amp; how like a beast in apprehension" etc.
et al, we DO have our "good side" too, but it's not always apparent, or the reasons for being good are actually quite petty ones, rather than sincere ones, unfortunately))I.E.-&gt; Imo, @ least?
FIRST?? We need to "mature/grow up" as a species, as cliche as that sounds.APKP.S.=&gt; I've often said that to my pals, my initial statement - that IF I were looking down &amp; observing us?
I would probably go to our governments worldwide &amp; tell them "IF you don't learn to live with one another, peacefully &amp; in cooperation for the good of all?
YOU STAY DOWN THERE, or we blow you away... our children play out here, &amp; we want NONE of your "space ghetto" violence &amp; mental poison spreading to our kids.
You have been warned..." , pretty much like Michael Rennie said as KLAATU, in the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still" (great flick, the original, that is - says a HELL of a lot!)...
apk
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242873</id>
	<title>Prime Numbers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244402640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>   2      3      5      7     11     13     17     19     23     29<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 31     37     41     43     47     53     59     61     67     71<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 73     79     83     89     97    101    103    107    109    113<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 127    131    137    139    149    151    157    163    167    173<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 179    181    191    193    197    199    211    223    227    229<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 233    239    241    251    257    263    269    271    277    281<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 283    293    307    311    313    317    331    337    347    349</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2 3 5 7 11 13 17 19 23 29           31 37 41 43 47 53 59 61 67 71           73 79 83 89 97 101 103 107 109 113         127 131 137 139 149 151 157 163 167 173         179 181 191 193 197 199 211 223 227 229         233 239 241 251 257 263 269 271 277 281         283 293 307 311 313 317 331 337 347 349</tokentext>
<sentencetext>   2      3      5      7     11     13     17     19     23     29
          31     37     41     43     47     53     59     61     67     71
          73     79     83     89     97    101    103    107    109    113
        127    131    137    139    149    151    157    163    167    173
        179    181    191    193    197    199    211    223    227    229
        233    239    241    251    257    263    269    271    277    281
        283    293    307    311    313    317    331    337    347    349</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242967</id>
	<title>"a companion project to..."</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244403420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SETI ALPHA FIVE?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SETI ALPHA FIVE ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SETI ALPHA FIVE?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244717</id>
	<title>Guns or Music?</title>
	<author>Wingsy</author>
	<datestamp>1244373960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What I would like to know is how would our government respond. Guns &amp; tanks or flashing lights and an organ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I would like to know is how would our government respond .
Guns &amp; tanks or flashing lights and an organ ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I would like to know is how would our government respond.
Guns &amp; tanks or flashing lights and an organ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243315</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>h4rm0ny</author>
	<datestamp>1244405940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
I'm presuming this would be Tentacle Porn, then?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm presuming this would be Tentacle Porn , then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I'm presuming this would be Tentacle Porn, then?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243445</id>
	<title>Re:No one seems to have mentioned this.......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244406900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them. That's a drive that seems to be uniquely human. As far as I know, no animal on earth goes around comparing surrounding species to themselves.</p></div><p>Maybe not comparing to themselves, but dolphins do show some interest in humans. And you can definitely increase that interest by showing them your interest in them back. You will get to the point when they come to greet you whenever they see you, and beyond that.</p><p>Showing a genuine interest is the first step in making such contacts. Aliens might get interested even if they didn't care about us at first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them .
That 's a drive that seems to be uniquely human .
As far as I know , no animal on earth goes around comparing surrounding species to themselves.Maybe not comparing to themselves , but dolphins do show some interest in humans .
And you can definitely increase that interest by showing them your interest in them back .
You will get to the point when they come to greet you whenever they see you , and beyond that.Showing a genuine interest is the first step in making such contacts .
Aliens might get interested even if they did n't care about us at first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them.
That's a drive that seems to be uniquely human.
As far as I know, no animal on earth goes around comparing surrounding species to themselves.Maybe not comparing to themselves, but dolphins do show some interest in humans.
And you can definitely increase that interest by showing them your interest in them back.
You will get to the point when they come to greet you whenever they see you, and beyond that.Showing a genuine interest is the first step in making such contacts.
Aliens might get interested even if they didn't care about us at first.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244269</id>
	<title>Sorry: Fermi paradox revised</title>
	<author>w0mprat</author>
	<datestamp>1244370780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously any alien species than can traverse interstellar space is not going to be interested in talking to schizophrenic monkeys. If they exist, they certainly have the capability <b>and the reasons</b>, to stay hidden from us. You see, TFA answers it's own question. We're not ready to greet aliens until we can present a unified front with a single message that speaks for the consensus of humanity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously any alien species than can traverse interstellar space is not going to be interested in talking to schizophrenic monkeys .
If they exist , they certainly have the capability and the reasons , to stay hidden from us .
You see , TFA answers it 's own question .
We 're not ready to greet aliens until we can present a unified front with a single message that speaks for the consensus of humanity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously any alien species than can traverse interstellar space is not going to be interested in talking to schizophrenic monkeys.
If they exist, they certainly have the capability and the reasons, to stay hidden from us.
You see, TFA answers it's own question.
We're not ready to greet aliens until we can present a unified front with a single message that speaks for the consensus of humanity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243041</id>
	<title>What's Your Sign?</title>
	<author>microcars</author>
	<datestamp>1244403900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Come Here Often?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Come Here Often ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Come Here Often?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28256265</id>
	<title>stick to the cards</title>
	<author>speedtux</author>
	<datestamp>1244454480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My personal favorite is: "Our planet is decaying in its own filth, and is best avoided by all aliens"</p><p>Other choices are: "We are a benign species, opposed to interplanetary conflict, and believe in equal opportunity for all beings, regardless of age, race, gender, sexual orientation or planet of origin", "Congratulations on your birthday", and "We look forward to sharing the many benefits of our combined knowledge".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My personal favorite is : " Our planet is decaying in its own filth , and is best avoided by all aliens " Other choices are : " We are a benign species , opposed to interplanetary conflict , and believe in equal opportunity for all beings , regardless of age , race , gender , sexual orientation or planet of origin " , " Congratulations on your birthday " , and " We look forward to sharing the many benefits of our combined knowledge " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My personal favorite is: "Our planet is decaying in its own filth, and is best avoided by all aliens"Other choices are: "We are a benign species, opposed to interplanetary conflict, and believe in equal opportunity for all beings, regardless of age, race, gender, sexual orientation or planet of origin", "Congratulations on your birthday", and "We look forward to sharing the many benefits of our combined knowledge".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245295</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Lord Kano</author>
	<datestamp>1244378220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree. If someone shows up here and doesn't immediately start attacking us, we can assume that they mean us no harm. To get here would mean that they posses a technology that is so far advanced that we could do little to nothing to stop them from wiping us all out. Excellent point.</p><p>How about a counterpoint. If we pickup a radio message from somewhere out there in the cosmos, we can't be sure that the ones who sent it are friendly. Turkey hunters use turkey calls. If a Tom hears another turkey, he'll go to investigate it. Sometimes, he finds a hunter with a 12 guage shotgun and ends up as dinner. The hunter knew that there was a turkey somewhere out there, but not necessarily where and couldn't expend the time or energy to find it.</p><p>Who's to say that an intergalactic radio message isn't their version of a turkey call? They know that food is out here somewhere, but they don't know exactly where. This is an unlikely scenario, but not an impossible one. We've been blasting RF into the cosmos for a little over 60 years. So far, no one has shown up to turn us into dinner. It's also possible that the hunter was 40 light years away and we only have another 20 before they show up with their space shotguns.</p><p>LK</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
If someone shows up here and does n't immediately start attacking us , we can assume that they mean us no harm .
To get here would mean that they posses a technology that is so far advanced that we could do little to nothing to stop them from wiping us all out .
Excellent point.How about a counterpoint .
If we pickup a radio message from somewhere out there in the cosmos , we ca n't be sure that the ones who sent it are friendly .
Turkey hunters use turkey calls .
If a Tom hears another turkey , he 'll go to investigate it .
Sometimes , he finds a hunter with a 12 guage shotgun and ends up as dinner .
The hunter knew that there was a turkey somewhere out there , but not necessarily where and could n't expend the time or energy to find it.Who 's to say that an intergalactic radio message is n't their version of a turkey call ?
They know that food is out here somewhere , but they do n't know exactly where .
This is an unlikely scenario , but not an impossible one .
We 've been blasting RF into the cosmos for a little over 60 years .
So far , no one has shown up to turn us into dinner .
It 's also possible that the hunter was 40 light years away and we only have another 20 before they show up with their space shotguns.LK</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
If someone shows up here and doesn't immediately start attacking us, we can assume that they mean us no harm.
To get here would mean that they posses a technology that is so far advanced that we could do little to nothing to stop them from wiping us all out.
Excellent point.How about a counterpoint.
If we pickup a radio message from somewhere out there in the cosmos, we can't be sure that the ones who sent it are friendly.
Turkey hunters use turkey calls.
If a Tom hears another turkey, he'll go to investigate it.
Sometimes, he finds a hunter with a 12 guage shotgun and ends up as dinner.
The hunter knew that there was a turkey somewhere out there, but not necessarily where and couldn't expend the time or energy to find it.Who's to say that an intergalactic radio message isn't their version of a turkey call?
They know that food is out here somewhere, but they don't know exactly where.
This is an unlikely scenario, but not an impossible one.
We've been blasting RF into the cosmos for a little over 60 years.
So far, no one has shown up to turn us into dinner.
It's also possible that the hunter was 40 light years away and we only have another 20 before they show up with their space shotguns.LK</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242589</id>
	<title>vulcan labia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>get a vulcan chick to spread her legs and make the hand sign right over the labia</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>get a vulcan chick to spread her legs and make the hand sign right over the labia</tokentext>
<sentencetext>get a vulcan chick to spread her legs and make the hand sign right over the labia</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242859</id>
	<title>Duh</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1244402460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've all seen enough movies to know how it should go. The greeting will be:</p><p>"Die, you bug-faced putrid tentacle freak!"</p><p>said by a U.S. Marine pulling the trigger of a flamethrower.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've all seen enough movies to know how it should go .
The greeting will be : " Die , you bug-faced putrid tentacle freak !
" said by a U.S. Marine pulling the trigger of a flamethrower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've all seen enough movies to know how it should go.
The greeting will be:"Die, you bug-faced putrid tentacle freak!
"said by a U.S. Marine pulling the trigger of a flamethrower.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243601</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1244407980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Randall Munroe, of XKCD's fame, considers that we should not settle for interstellar communication when we could have interstellar war ! <br> <br>

Details here : <a href="http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/02/15/the-laser-elevator/" title="xkcd.com">http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/02/15/the-laser-elevator/</a> [xkcd.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Randall Munroe , of XKCD 's fame , considers that we should not settle for interstellar communication when we could have interstellar war !
Details here : http : //blag.xkcd.com/2008/02/15/the-laser-elevator/ [ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Randall Munroe, of XKCD's fame, considers that we should not settle for interstellar communication when we could have interstellar war !
Details here : http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/02/15/the-laser-elevator/ [xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246665</id>
	<title>Peaceful? We might be the galactic petting zoo.</title>
	<author>CHK6</author>
	<datestamp>1244391240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It doesn't mean if they want to talk to us they are peaceful. I talk to my dog from time to time, and I still see her as a dog and if she doesn't obey she gets disciplined. So I have no idea what a galactic rolled up newspaper is like, but that electric dog collar might be in our future. At best, I hope we can prove to our new masters we are mothership trained and poop only in our cages or in space.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't mean if they want to talk to us they are peaceful .
I talk to my dog from time to time , and I still see her as a dog and if she does n't obey she gets disciplined .
So I have no idea what a galactic rolled up newspaper is like , but that electric dog collar might be in our future .
At best , I hope we can prove to our new masters we are mothership trained and poop only in our cages or in space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't mean if they want to talk to us they are peaceful.
I talk to my dog from time to time, and I still see her as a dog and if she doesn't obey she gets disciplined.
So I have no idea what a galactic rolled up newspaper is like, but that electric dog collar might be in our future.
At best, I hope we can prove to our new masters we are mothership trained and poop only in our cages or in space.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</id>
	<title>I know</title>
	<author>Dolphinzilla</author>
	<datestamp>1244394360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>got any new porn we haven't seen yet ???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>got any new porn we have n't seen yet ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>got any new porn we haven't seen yet ??
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246141</id>
	<title>Which language?</title>
	<author>vstat</author>
	<datestamp>1244385960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shouldn't we agree on which language to greet ET in before we discuss the message?  Not only will 100 different messages be confusing, but so will those messages in 100 different languages.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should n't we agree on which language to greet ET in before we discuss the message ?
Not only will 100 different messages be confusing , but so will those messages in 100 different languages .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shouldn't we agree on which language to greet ET in before we discuss the message?
Not only will 100 different messages be confusing, but so will those messages in 100 different languages.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242333</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"You are late for dinner. Why didn't you call?"</p><p>Seriously though, they got 60 years of our television output, they will understand almost any common greeting and social convention.</p><p>Why do people think if aliens wanted to kill us they wouldn't deflect an asteroid?<br>I mean<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... flying through light-years of space and then having to put up with us and our toy guns?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" You are late for dinner .
Why did n't you call ?
" Seriously though , they got 60 years of our television output , they will understand almost any common greeting and social convention.Why do people think if aliens wanted to kill us they would n't deflect an asteroid ? I mean ... flying through light-years of space and then having to put up with us and our toy guns ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"You are late for dinner.
Why didn't you call?
"Seriously though, they got 60 years of our television output, they will understand almost any common greeting and social convention.Why do people think if aliens wanted to kill us they wouldn't deflect an asteroid?I mean ... flying through light-years of space and then having to put up with us and our toy guns?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242135</id>
	<title>I would probably have to go with...</title>
	<author>Xaoswolf</author>
	<datestamp>1244397120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Don't probe me bro"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Do n't probe me bro "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Don't probe me bro"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245539</id>
	<title>Uhm...</title>
	<author>bruthasj</author>
	<datestamp>1244380560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All your base?</htmltext>
<tokenext>All your base ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All your base?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242319</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>RightwingNutjob</author>
	<datestamp>1244398440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rules of engagement:</p><p>Be nice or we'll nuke your spaceships.</p><p>Don't colonize us or we'll nuke your spaceships.</p><p>Try to overpower us and we'll nuke your spaceships and make the planet uninhabitable, causing you untold waste in fuel and travel time.</p><p>Give us your (green) women or we'll nuke your spaceships.</p><p>Etc, etc...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rules of engagement : Be nice or we 'll nuke your spaceships.Do n't colonize us or we 'll nuke your spaceships.Try to overpower us and we 'll nuke your spaceships and make the planet uninhabitable , causing you untold waste in fuel and travel time.Give us your ( green ) women or we 'll nuke your spaceships.Etc , etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rules of engagement:Be nice or we'll nuke your spaceships.Don't colonize us or we'll nuke your spaceships.Try to overpower us and we'll nuke your spaceships and make the planet uninhabitable, causing you untold waste in fuel and travel time.Give us your (green) women or we'll nuke your spaceships.Etc, etc...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243531</id>
	<title>Ahhhhhhhhh!</title>
	<author>Evil\_Medic1</author>
	<datestamp>1244407500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He's got a board, with a NAIL in it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's got a board , with a NAIL in it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's got a board, with a NAIL in it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242169</id>
	<title>It really all depends on resources</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1244397360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If resources are plentiful then there isn't much of a problem.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If resources are plentiful then there is n't much of a problem .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>If resources are plentiful then there isn't much of a problem.
 </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243209</id>
	<title>Three letters</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244405040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>B F G</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>B F G</tokentext>
<sentencetext>B F G</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243103</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>dbcad7</author>
	<datestamp>1244404380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. What then ?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... you've traveled to a foreign land where you don't know the language and shown the barmaid on a napkin that you can add.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well .. What then ?
... you 've traveled to a foreign land where you do n't know the language and shown the barmaid on a napkin that you can add .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well .. What then ?
... you've traveled to a foreign land where you don't know the language and shown the barmaid on a napkin that you can add.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251841</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244480220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;We have no weapons capable of attacking outside of low orbit, and no way of countering (much less actually stopping)<i> an attack of that magnitude.</i></p><p>Indeed, <b>we cannot repel firepower of that magnitude</b>.  Best send Gold Squadron in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; We have no weapons capable of attacking outside of low orbit , and no way of countering ( much less actually stopping ) an attack of that magnitude.Indeed , we can not repel firepower of that magnitude .
Best send Gold Squadron in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;We have no weapons capable of attacking outside of low orbit, and no way of countering (much less actually stopping) an attack of that magnitude.Indeed, we cannot repel firepower of that magnitude.
Best send Gold Squadron in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242235</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246573</id>
	<title>If they are hostile to us</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244390400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Suppose we all smoke a joint. Ease the tensions a bit and who knows, if they want to commence a genocide, perhaps pot will poison their vastly different systems while it just gets us baked. Hey another reason to add onto the pile for the legalization effort!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Suppose we all smoke a joint .
Ease the tensions a bit and who knows , if they want to commence a genocide , perhaps pot will poison their vastly different systems while it just gets us baked .
Hey another reason to add onto the pile for the legalization effort !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Suppose we all smoke a joint.
Ease the tensions a bit and who knows, if they want to commence a genocide, perhaps pot will poison their vastly different systems while it just gets us baked.
Hey another reason to add onto the pile for the legalization effort!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241867</id>
	<title>Typical Slashdot Reader Responses</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"But does your advanced Zarnax-12 computational system run Linux?"</p><p>"Wow, Zarnax-12 computers! Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!"</p><p>"Okay, I've successfully installed Ubuntu Linux on the Zarnax-12, but I still can't get dual-monitor support, and it's not recognizing the alien T'Ralfaz sound card."</p><p>Obligatory Movie Quote (1,000 quatloos to the first person who recognizes this)</p><p>"...if they're more advanced than us, they should be nearer to the Creator..."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" But does your advanced Zarnax-12 computational system run Linux ?
" " Wow , Zarnax-12 computers !
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these !
" " Okay , I 've successfully installed Ubuntu Linux on the Zarnax-12 , but I still ca n't get dual-monitor support , and it 's not recognizing the alien T'Ralfaz sound card .
" Obligatory Movie Quote ( 1,000 quatloos to the first person who recognizes this ) " ...if they 're more advanced than us , they should be nearer to the Creator... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"But does your advanced Zarnax-12 computational system run Linux?
""Wow, Zarnax-12 computers!
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!
""Okay, I've successfully installed Ubuntu Linux on the Zarnax-12, but I still can't get dual-monitor support, and it's not recognizing the alien T'Ralfaz sound card.
"Obligatory Movie Quote (1,000 quatloos to the first person who recognizes this)"...if they're more advanced than us, they should be nearer to the Creator..."
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242549</id>
	<title>If I'm in Essex, then usually with...</title>
	<author>your Funny Uncle</author>
	<datestamp>1244400060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>..."Ullo John! Gotta New Motor?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>... " Ullo John !
Got ta New Motor ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..."Ullo John!
Gotta New Motor?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</id>
	<title>Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>oneirophrenos</author>
	<datestamp>1244394660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>So we've got guns. I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs. If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react. If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So we 've got guns .
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs .
If they wished to annihilate us , I wager they 'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react .
If an alien race should contact Earth , I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So we've got guns.
I wonder how intimidated a civilization that has the technology to traverse light-years through space would be of our bullets and bombs.
If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react.
If an alien race should contact Earth, I think our best bet would be to at least assume that they have peaceful intentions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242517</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>KingOfGod</author>
	<datestamp>1244399820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA also suggested that the message should be from us all as a species. Saying that we have guns and know how to use them would quickly alert the ET's about our general ignorance so they could treat us accordingly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA also suggested that the message should be from us all as a species .
Saying that we have guns and know how to use them would quickly alert the ET 's about our general ignorance so they could treat us accordingly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA also suggested that the message should be from us all as a species.
Saying that we have guns and know how to use them would quickly alert the ET's about our general ignorance so they could treat us accordingly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242053</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249641</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244468100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the most sensible analysis of policy options of the North Korean government that I have read.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the most sensible analysis of policy options of the North Korean government that I have read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the most sensible analysis of policy options of the North Korean government that I have read.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242795</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244537</id>
	<title>Planet of apes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244372460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>imagine that the diffrence of IQ level between humans and some kind of ET species will be the same as the diffrence between us and apes. and that these species are searching for a new home because of theyr home planet atmosphere beeing polluted from some reason, or theyr home star dying, becoming a red giant.</p><p>now, in that case, will you have any problem in colonising a planet where the most inteligent life form are apes ? have course, this question is not for americans, they didn't had problems not even with the "red skins"...</p><p>in this case, will you even try to comunicate ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>imagine that the diffrence of IQ level between humans and some kind of ET species will be the same as the diffrence between us and apes .
and that these species are searching for a new home because of theyr home planet atmosphere beeing polluted from some reason , or theyr home star dying , becoming a red giant.now , in that case , will you have any problem in colonising a planet where the most inteligent life form are apes ?
have course , this question is not for americans , they did n't had problems not even with the " red skins " ...in this case , will you even try to comunicate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>imagine that the diffrence of IQ level between humans and some kind of ET species will be the same as the diffrence between us and apes.
and that these species are searching for a new home because of theyr home planet atmosphere beeing polluted from some reason, or theyr home star dying, becoming a red giant.now, in that case, will you have any problem in colonising a planet where the most inteligent life form are apes ?
have course, this question is not for americans, they didn't had problems not even with the "red skins"...in this case, will you even try to comunicate ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244039</id>
	<title>There is ONLY ONE TRUE WAY to Greet ET</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1244369280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWBYz5OG0uw" title="youtube.com">Homer Simpsons Shows How</a> [youtube.com]</p><p>This is the ONLY ONE CORRECT WAY.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Homer Simpsons Shows How [ youtube.com ] This is the ONLY ONE CORRECT WAY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Homer Simpsons Shows How [youtube.com]This is the ONLY ONE CORRECT WAY.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242197</id>
	<title>Do what they do and be patient</title>
	<author>physicsphairy</author>
	<datestamp>1244397660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we encounter a civilization of vastly superior technology, the idea that we would possess any capacity to negotiate is more or less absurd.  Hiding doesn't work either.  Assuming it's them discovering us and not vice versa, the encounter cannot possibly be far from our highly-immobile civilization, and even if we immediately turned off all the power plants and went dark, it's not like there is such an abundance of life-supporting planets nearby that earth could hope to slip through the cracks.  It may not even be wise to try and be all buddy-buddy with them, as who knows what sort of culture and religion they follow.  ("you dare bow to us?  we will surely annihilate you for the insult of that most obscene gesture!")</p><p>The simplest and wisest thing to do is let them call all the shots.  Speak when spoken to; otherwise, be silent.  Look for opportunities to reciprocate any kindness.  Any technology they can be convinced to offer is guaranteed to exceed the value of any riches we bring as tribute (which should have value by virtue of uniqueness even if their culture does not experience the same rarity of materials).</p><p>If our visitors are demanding and unreasonable human being will almost certainly have to postpone any major rebellion until they are in a position to acquire some of their oppressors' technological resources.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we encounter a civilization of vastly superior technology , the idea that we would possess any capacity to negotiate is more or less absurd .
Hiding does n't work either .
Assuming it 's them discovering us and not vice versa , the encounter can not possibly be far from our highly-immobile civilization , and even if we immediately turned off all the power plants and went dark , it 's not like there is such an abundance of life-supporting planets nearby that earth could hope to slip through the cracks .
It may not even be wise to try and be all buddy-buddy with them , as who knows what sort of culture and religion they follow .
( " you dare bow to us ?
we will surely annihilate you for the insult of that most obscene gesture !
" ) The simplest and wisest thing to do is let them call all the shots .
Speak when spoken to ; otherwise , be silent .
Look for opportunities to reciprocate any kindness .
Any technology they can be convinced to offer is guaranteed to exceed the value of any riches we bring as tribute ( which should have value by virtue of uniqueness even if their culture does not experience the same rarity of materials ) .If our visitors are demanding and unreasonable human being will almost certainly have to postpone any major rebellion until they are in a position to acquire some of their oppressors ' technological resources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we encounter a civilization of vastly superior technology, the idea that we would possess any capacity to negotiate is more or less absurd.
Hiding doesn't work either.
Assuming it's them discovering us and not vice versa, the encounter cannot possibly be far from our highly-immobile civilization, and even if we immediately turned off all the power plants and went dark, it's not like there is such an abundance of life-supporting planets nearby that earth could hope to slip through the cracks.
It may not even be wise to try and be all buddy-buddy with them, as who knows what sort of culture and religion they follow.
("you dare bow to us?
we will surely annihilate you for the insult of that most obscene gesture!
")The simplest and wisest thing to do is let them call all the shots.
Speak when spoken to; otherwise, be silent.
Look for opportunities to reciprocate any kindness.
Any technology they can be convinced to offer is guaranteed to exceed the value of any riches we bring as tribute (which should have value by virtue of uniqueness even if their culture does not experience the same rarity of materials).If our visitors are demanding and unreasonable human being will almost certainly have to postpone any major rebellion until they are in a position to acquire some of their oppressors' technological resources.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242605</id>
	<title>Idiots would get us slaughtered regardless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they actually visited Earth? It wouldn't really matter, the stupid people of the world (religious fundamentalists/xenophobes/right-wing nutjobs) would provoke them and get us all slaughtered regardless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they actually visited Earth ?
It would n't really matter , the stupid people of the world ( religious fundamentalists/xenophobes/right-wing nutjobs ) would provoke them and get us all slaughtered regardless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they actually visited Earth?
It wouldn't really matter, the stupid people of the world (religious fundamentalists/xenophobes/right-wing nutjobs) would provoke them and get us all slaughtered regardless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242067</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>The complete protocol was detailed way back in 1988 <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097257/" title="imdb.com">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097257/</a> [imdb.com] and it seemed to work then so I reckon it will work just as well today</htmltext>
<tokenext>The complete protocol was detailed way back in 1988 http : //www.imdb.com/title/tt0097257/ [ imdb.com ] and it seemed to work then so I reckon it will work just as well today</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The complete protocol was detailed way back in 1988 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097257/ [imdb.com] and it seemed to work then so I reckon it will work just as well today</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243771</id>
	<title>its..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244366700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi Britney,</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi Britney,</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi Britney,</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243985</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>jamstar7</author>
	<datestamp>1244368800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>These would be the Independence Day aliens. Not everyone can place a virus into the mother ship, but there's a reason that the Independence Day aliens chose earth and not Mars.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Yeah, it's called a plot hook.  If the aliens took over Mars &amp; the asteroid belt, it would have been a completely different (and most likely, boring as hell) movie.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>These would be the Independence Day aliens .
Not everyone can place a virus into the mother ship , but there 's a reason that the Independence Day aliens chose earth and not Mars .
Yeah , it 's called a plot hook .
If the aliens took over Mars &amp; the asteroid belt , it would have been a completely different ( and most likely , boring as hell ) movie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These would be the Independence Day aliens.
Not everyone can place a virus into the mother ship, but there's a reason that the Independence Day aliens chose earth and not Mars.
Yeah, it's called a plot hook.
If the aliens took over Mars &amp; the asteroid belt, it would have been a completely different (and most likely, boring as hell) movie.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242795</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250659</id>
	<title>Re:No one seems to have mentioned this.......</title>
	<author>EvilBudMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244474220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We spam em.. They can't ignore that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We spam em.. They ca n't ignore that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We spam em.. They can't ignore that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250533</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>EvilBudMan</author>
	<datestamp>1244473440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We could just spam them to death. They probably forgot about that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We could just spam them to death .
They probably forgot about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We could just spam them to death.
They probably forgot about that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242639</id>
	<title>Transformers</title>
	<author>Goalie\_Ca</author>
	<datestamp>1244400840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't believe no one has said this yet<p><div class="quote"><p>bah weep grana weep nini bong!</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe no one has said this yetbah weep grana weep nini bong !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe no one has said this yetbah weep grana weep nini bong!
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242509</id>
	<title>How about?</title>
	<author>st0rmshad0w</author>
	<datestamp>1244399700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about "Hey, you can't park that thing here!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about " Hey , you ca n't park that thing here !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about "Hey, you can't park that thing here!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242705</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1244401380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sneeze.
</p><p>Hey, it worked in War of the Worlds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sneeze .
Hey , it worked in War of the Worlds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sneeze.
Hey, it worked in War of the Worlds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244851</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>DaveGod</author>
	<datestamp>1244374920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People would probably get on a whole lot better if they had some aliens to hate. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People would probably get on a whole lot better if they had some aliens to hate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People would probably get on a whole lot better if they had some aliens to hate. </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28252873</id>
	<title>Diplomacy as possible</title>
	<author>Control-Z</author>
	<datestamp>1244484660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think our only hope would be that a race advanced enough to make it here would be peaceful.  Maybe a bad assumption, you'd have to do like Teddy Roosevelt, talk softly but carry a big stick.</p><p>I also think it's entirely possible that we wouldn't be able to relate to the aliens in any meaningful way.  Maybe they spend all their days exchanging various molecules between themselves and us talking to them face to "face" and hitting them with exhaled CO2 would be a grave insult.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think our only hope would be that a race advanced enough to make it here would be peaceful .
Maybe a bad assumption , you 'd have to do like Teddy Roosevelt , talk softly but carry a big stick.I also think it 's entirely possible that we would n't be able to relate to the aliens in any meaningful way .
Maybe they spend all their days exchanging various molecules between themselves and us talking to them face to " face " and hitting them with exhaled CO2 would be a grave insult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think our only hope would be that a race advanced enough to make it here would be peaceful.
Maybe a bad assumption, you'd have to do like Teddy Roosevelt, talk softly but carry a big stick.I also think it's entirely possible that we wouldn't be able to relate to the aliens in any meaningful way.
Maybe they spend all their days exchanging various molecules between themselves and us talking to them face to "face" and hitting them with exhaled CO2 would be a grave insult.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242083</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>laejoh</author>
	<datestamp>1244396760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Getting an answer in japanese, priceless!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Getting an answer in japanese , priceless !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Getting an answer in japanese, priceless!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243265</id>
	<title>My answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244405400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would ask the most simple minded question...  Do you poop?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would ask the most simple minded question... Do you poop ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would ask the most simple minded question...  Do you poop?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28250951</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244475660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the fastest we have ever made a man-made object go is the fastest we can ever go? That is illogical. If you assume unlimited terrestrial resources it's easy to imagine methods of accelerating longer to faster speeds. You can't just point your ship towards the star and full burn straight at it, but you could reduce the time to prepare to a few decades or a century or two (rough guess). Then complete the trip within a person's lifetime. Assuming unlimited resources, of course.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the fastest we have ever made a man-made object go is the fastest we can ever go ?
That is illogical .
If you assume unlimited terrestrial resources it 's easy to imagine methods of accelerating longer to faster speeds .
You ca n't just point your ship towards the star and full burn straight at it , but you could reduce the time to prepare to a few decades or a century or two ( rough guess ) .
Then complete the trip within a person 's lifetime .
Assuming unlimited resources , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the fastest we have ever made a man-made object go is the fastest we can ever go?
That is illogical.
If you assume unlimited terrestrial resources it's easy to imagine methods of accelerating longer to faster speeds.
You can't just point your ship towards the star and full burn straight at it, but you could reduce the time to prepare to a few decades or a century or two (rough guess).
Then complete the trip within a person's lifetime.
Assuming unlimited resources, of course.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243705</id>
	<title>Re:No one seems to have mentioned this.......</title>
	<author>nscott89</author>
	<datestamp>1244365800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well no other species on Earth is intelligent enough to ponder such high thoughts either, so you can't use that to support your argument.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well no other species on Earth is intelligent enough to ponder such high thoughts either , so you ca n't use that to support your argument .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well no other species on Earth is intelligent enough to ponder such high thoughts either, so you can't use that to support your argument.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243367</id>
	<title>Darmok</title>
	<author>Tteddo</author>
	<datestamp>1244406300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247609</id>
	<title>Smile and say, hi!</title>
	<author>mmwithpeanuts</author>
	<datestamp>1244402520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If that doesn't work, then bend over and kiss your ass, goodbye!</htmltext>
<tokenext>If that does n't work , then bend over and kiss your ass , goodbye !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If that doesn't work, then bend over and kiss your ass, goodbye!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242591</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>darpo</author>
	<datestamp>1244400360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't be so sure. If they were at least as smart as us, they could use a communications medium to con us into doing things against our best interests. Think Contact, except instead of having us build a ship, we build a bomb that they claim is a ship.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't be so sure .
If they were at least as smart as us , they could use a communications medium to con us into doing things against our best interests .
Think Contact , except instead of having us build a ship , we build a bomb that they claim is a ship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't be so sure.
If they were at least as smart as us, they could use a communications medium to con us into doing things against our best interests.
Think Contact, except instead of having us build a ship, we build a bomb that they claim is a ship.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242053</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242461</id>
	<title>They can't and they won't mention it.</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1244399400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them.</i></p><p>This touches on a good point.</p><p>I've always thought some of the very basic assumptions made by the "Seeking Intelligent Life" community are rather presumptuous.</p><p>The assumptions are so basic as to be almost invisible to those who make them, which appears to be nearly everybody.  The primary one being that Intelligent Life will be as excited about finding Intelligent Life as we are.  --The only considered variables being Intelligent Life's level of technology and level of benevolence.</p><p>Being a curious person, I decided to react to the various bits of incongruous signal peeping out from all the noise.  Crop circles were one such bit of signal.  There are many others.  For some reason, (which is not actually, "Some Reason" but rather, like every other bit of signal, upon exploring it, a very clearly understandable reason, and not a very flattering one at that), people block out the threads, try to rationalize them away, and generally force reality through the warped lens of the current popular human belief structures.  But if people manage to undo this bit of social programming and honestly look at the information available without bias or a desire to destroy it in favor of the calming, socially acceptable version, then life can be clearly seen for what it really is; The jungle on the other side of the barbed electric enclosure.</p><p>The available indicators today, (and there are many, many of them), tell us several things. . .</p><p>1. Alien Life doesn't exist within, and more importantly, doesn't <i>perceive</i> physical space/time the same way we do.  They're better at it.  More evolved.  Time is a spatial vector for them along which they can move back and forth at will.</p><p>2. They don't consider us equals. Far from it; they consider us food.  In much the same way we don't negotiate with cattle or share in cultural exchanges with stands of corn, we are naive to expect to be treated as anything other than a retarded ape species bearing a (significant) industrial resource value.  There's a reason there are so many of us at the moment and that world politics are as they are.</p><p>3. They've been here "forever" and have been manipulating us for the same length of time.</p><p>SETI, while it is rather sweet in its child-like naivete, remains an indicator of just how fsked we really are as a race.</p><p>Bearing all of this in mind, it is hardly any surprise that people would rather block it out and live comfortably in some pretend reality.  I'm sure cows do the equivalent thing on their level.  --Imagine if all the cows at once decided to use all that enormous muscle power to overwhelm the gates and trample their keepers?  They could do this at any moment, but they never will.</p><p>-FL</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them.This touches on a good point.I 've always thought some of the very basic assumptions made by the " Seeking Intelligent Life " community are rather presumptuous.The assumptions are so basic as to be almost invisible to those who make them , which appears to be nearly everybody .
The primary one being that Intelligent Life will be as excited about finding Intelligent Life as we are .
--The only considered variables being Intelligent Life 's level of technology and level of benevolence.Being a curious person , I decided to react to the various bits of incongruous signal peeping out from all the noise .
Crop circles were one such bit of signal .
There are many others .
For some reason , ( which is not actually , " Some Reason " but rather , like every other bit of signal , upon exploring it , a very clearly understandable reason , and not a very flattering one at that ) , people block out the threads , try to rationalize them away , and generally force reality through the warped lens of the current popular human belief structures .
But if people manage to undo this bit of social programming and honestly look at the information available without bias or a desire to destroy it in favor of the calming , socially acceptable version , then life can be clearly seen for what it really is ; The jungle on the other side of the barbed electric enclosure.The available indicators today , ( and there are many , many of them ) , tell us several things .
. .1 .
Alien Life does n't exist within , and more importantly , does n't perceive physical space/time the same way we do .
They 're better at it .
More evolved .
Time is a spatial vector for them along which they can move back and forth at will.2 .
They do n't consider us equals .
Far from it ; they consider us food .
In much the same way we do n't negotiate with cattle or share in cultural exchanges with stands of corn , we are naive to expect to be treated as anything other than a retarded ape species bearing a ( significant ) industrial resource value .
There 's a reason there are so many of us at the moment and that world politics are as they are.3 .
They 've been here " forever " and have been manipulating us for the same length of time.SETI , while it is rather sweet in its child-like naivete , remains an indicator of just how fsked we really are as a race.Bearing all of this in mind , it is hardly any surprise that people would rather block it out and live comfortably in some pretend reality .
I 'm sure cows do the equivalent thing on their level .
--Imagine if all the cows at once decided to use all that enormous muscle power to overwhelm the gates and trample their keepers ?
They could do this at any moment , but they never will.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them.This touches on a good point.I've always thought some of the very basic assumptions made by the "Seeking Intelligent Life" community are rather presumptuous.The assumptions are so basic as to be almost invisible to those who make them, which appears to be nearly everybody.
The primary one being that Intelligent Life will be as excited about finding Intelligent Life as we are.
--The only considered variables being Intelligent Life's level of technology and level of benevolence.Being a curious person, I decided to react to the various bits of incongruous signal peeping out from all the noise.
Crop circles were one such bit of signal.
There are many others.
For some reason, (which is not actually, "Some Reason" but rather, like every other bit of signal, upon exploring it, a very clearly understandable reason, and not a very flattering one at that), people block out the threads, try to rationalize them away, and generally force reality through the warped lens of the current popular human belief structures.
But if people manage to undo this bit of social programming and honestly look at the information available without bias or a desire to destroy it in favor of the calming, socially acceptable version, then life can be clearly seen for what it really is; The jungle on the other side of the barbed electric enclosure.The available indicators today, (and there are many, many of them), tell us several things.
. .1.
Alien Life doesn't exist within, and more importantly, doesn't perceive physical space/time the same way we do.
They're better at it.
More evolved.
Time is a spatial vector for them along which they can move back and forth at will.2.
They don't consider us equals.
Far from it; they consider us food.
In much the same way we don't negotiate with cattle or share in cultural exchanges with stands of corn, we are naive to expect to be treated as anything other than a retarded ape species bearing a (significant) industrial resource value.
There's a reason there are so many of us at the moment and that world politics are as they are.3.
They've been here "forever" and have been manipulating us for the same length of time.SETI, while it is rather sweet in its child-like naivete, remains an indicator of just how fsked we really are as a race.Bearing all of this in mind, it is hardly any surprise that people would rather block it out and live comfortably in some pretend reality.
I'm sure cows do the equivalent thing on their level.
--Imagine if all the cows at once decided to use all that enormous muscle power to overwhelm the gates and trample their keepers?
They could do this at any moment, but they never will.-FL</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243405</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>ScrewMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1244406540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As quoted from the book, The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior:
1. THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.
If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us. It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing.
2. WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS.
No species makes it to the top by being passive. The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.
3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.</p></div><p>A very Kzin take on the Universe.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As quoted from the book , The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior : 1 .
THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL .
If an alien species has to choose between them and us , they wo n't choose us .
It is difficult to imagine a contrary case ; species do n't survive by being self-sacrificing .
2. WIMPS DO N'T BECOME TOP DOGS .
No species makes it to the top by being passive .
The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent , alert , aggressive , and ruthless when necessary .
3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.A very Kzin take on the Universe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As quoted from the book, The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior:
1.
THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.
If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us.
It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing.
2. WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS.
No species makes it to the top by being passive.
The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.
3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.A very Kzin take on the Universe.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242041</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Would help reduce several potentially embarrassing faux paus(es?), for instance, "Which hole should I put it in?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Would help reduce several potentially embarrassing faux paus ( es ?
) , for instance , " Which hole should I put it in ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would help reduce several potentially embarrassing faux paus(es?
), for instance, "Which hole should I put it in?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244403</id>
	<title>Coke ?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>heared about sex, heared about guns. but what about drugs ? maybe they're so damn ``high'' so the signal didn't reached out. yet.</p><p>meanwhile, bro', was that a pink elephant, yeti or e.t. ? gee...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>heared about sex , heared about guns .
but what about drugs ?
maybe they 're so damn ` ` high' ' so the signal did n't reached out .
yet.meanwhile , bro ' , was that a pink elephant , yeti or e.t .
? gee.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>heared about sex, heared about guns.
but what about drugs ?
maybe they're so damn ``high'' so the signal didn't reached out.
yet.meanwhile, bro', was that a pink elephant, yeti or e.t.
? gee...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242819</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244402160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It gets worse: read A Killing Star.</p><p>To wit: anyone who can reach high relativistic speeds can sterilize entire solar systems trivially, with no plausible defense possible.Furthermore, at least some, possibly most of them would do it to us first.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Killing\_Star" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Killing\_Star</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>As quoted from the book, The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior:<br>1. THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.<br>If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us. It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing.<br>2. WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS.<br>No species makes it to the top by being passive. The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.<br>3. THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It gets worse : read A Killing Star.To wit : anyone who can reach high relativistic speeds can sterilize entire solar systems trivially , with no plausible defense possible.Furthermore , at least some , possibly most of them would do it to us first.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The \ _Killing \ _Star [ wikipedia.org ] As quoted from the book , The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior : 1 .
THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.If an alien species has to choose between them and us , they wo n't choose us .
It is difficult to imagine a contrary case ; species do n't survive by being self-sacrificing.2 .
WIMPS DO N'T BECOME TOP DOGS.No species makes it to the top by being passive .
The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent , alert , aggressive , and ruthless when necessary.3 .
THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It gets worse: read A Killing Star.To wit: anyone who can reach high relativistic speeds can sterilize entire solar systems trivially, with no plausible defense possible.Furthermore, at least some, possibly most of them would do it to us first.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Killing\_Star [wikipedia.org]As quoted from the book, The Killing Star assumes the following about alien behavior:1.
THEIR SURVIVAL WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT THAN OUR SURVIVAL.If an alien species has to choose between them and us, they won't choose us.
It is difficult to imagine a contrary case; species don't survive by being self-sacrificing.2.
WIMPS DON'T BECOME TOP DOGS.No species makes it to the top by being passive.
The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.3.
THEY WILL ASSUME THAT THE FIRST TWO LAWS APPLY TO US.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242155</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244397300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly.  Lets look at the facts.  We have guns.  They're all on earth.  We've never had a person go further from earth then lunar orbit.  While we've had some success with robots going further, they're extremely slow, taking decades to plan, build, launch, and move to other planets.  Most of our weapons wouldn't even work in space.  This means we'd almost certainly be fighting them... on earth, or at best in earth orbit.  That means no nukes, unless we're particularly stupid.<br>
<br>
Now compare alien technology.  If we're fighting them, they're capable of pushing a spaceship from their star to ours.  That means they're capable of pushing a few dozen asteroids from our asteroid belt to our major cities.  Maybe we could deflect one, given a decade notice, but we'd be powerless to stop a dozen on courses chosen to end quickly, and they never even get close enough to us for us to attempt to engage them.  And that's not even considering things they may have developed specifically as weapons.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Lets look at the facts .
We have guns .
They 're all on earth .
We 've never had a person go further from earth then lunar orbit .
While we 've had some success with robots going further , they 're extremely slow , taking decades to plan , build , launch , and move to other planets .
Most of our weapons would n't even work in space .
This means we 'd almost certainly be fighting them... on earth , or at best in earth orbit .
That means no nukes , unless we 're particularly stupid .
Now compare alien technology .
If we 're fighting them , they 're capable of pushing a spaceship from their star to ours .
That means they 're capable of pushing a few dozen asteroids from our asteroid belt to our major cities .
Maybe we could deflect one , given a decade notice , but we 'd be powerless to stop a dozen on courses chosen to end quickly , and they never even get close enough to us for us to attempt to engage them .
And that 's not even considering things they may have developed specifically as weapons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Lets look at the facts.
We have guns.
They're all on earth.
We've never had a person go further from earth then lunar orbit.
While we've had some success with robots going further, they're extremely slow, taking decades to plan, build, launch, and move to other planets.
Most of our weapons wouldn't even work in space.
This means we'd almost certainly be fighting them... on earth, or at best in earth orbit.
That means no nukes, unless we're particularly stupid.
Now compare alien technology.
If we're fighting them, they're capable of pushing a spaceship from their star to ours.
That means they're capable of pushing a few dozen asteroids from our asteroid belt to our major cities.
Maybe we could deflect one, given a decade notice, but we'd be powerless to stop a dozen on courses chosen to end quickly, and they never even get close enough to us for us to attempt to engage them.
And that's not even considering things they may have developed specifically as weapons.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28257511</id>
	<title>obviously:</title>
	<author>SourGrapes</author>
	<datestamp>1244459100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"If you come in peace, surrender or be destroyed. If you're here to make war, we surrender."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" If you come in peace , surrender or be destroyed .
If you 're here to make war , we surrender .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If you come in peace, surrender or be destroyed.
If you're here to make war, we surrender.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243851</id>
	<title>How I would greet an et</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244367600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shotgun blast to the chest.</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkp-MI5hxVw" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkp-MI5hxVw</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Shotgun blast to the chest.http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = Rkp-MI5hxVw [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shotgun blast to the chest.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkp-MI5hxVw [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28261521</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244482080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What if they use base 3?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What if they use base 3 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if they use base 3?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244785</id>
	<title>I got it...</title>
	<author>codefungus</author>
	<datestamp>1244374500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They've been watching our tv and listening to our news for a while now...how about we greet them with, "Let me explain..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've been watching our tv and listening to our news for a while now...how about we greet them with , " Let me explain... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've been watching our tv and listening to our news for a while now...how about we greet them with, "Let me explain..."</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245453</id>
	<title>Painful judgmental mistake</title>
	<author>vikingpower</author>
	<datestamp>1244379720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>- Hey dude, you want a beer ?</p><p>- &#194;&amp;30xFB6745 &#194;$!  KZZRGT</p><p>- PSSSSSHOOOOM !!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>- Aww, so sorry mate for the mess it made in the vacuum you live in.</p><p>And there we are, facing 5 more billion years until the next encounter....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>- Hey dude , you want a beer ? -   &amp;30xFB6745   $ !
KZZRGT- PSSSSSHOOOOM ! !
...- Aww , so sorry mate for the mess it made in the vacuum you live in.And there we are , facing 5 more billion years until the next encounter... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>- Hey dude, you want a beer ?- Â&amp;30xFB6745 Â$!
KZZRGT- PSSSSSHOOOOM !!
...- Aww, so sorry mate for the mess it made in the vacuum you live in.And there we are, facing 5 more billion years until the next encounter....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243231</id>
	<title>Dear Aliens</title>
	<author>will\_die</author>
	<datestamp>1244405220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dear Friends,
<br> <br>
I am Prince Fayad Musa H. Bolkiah, the eldest son of Prince Jefri Bolkiah,
former Finance Minister of Earth, the tiny fuel-rich planet on the outer realms.
<br> <br>
Due to problems with a trading guild I was advised to evacuate my immediate family outside the sultanate to avoid further prosecution from them.  Before I could do that I was placed
under house arrest.
<br> <br>
Before my Incaseration, I went ahead to dispatch large sum of fuel with the
assistance of friend in a galaxy far away.  The fuel has now
been deposited as valuables into different private security and trust company
for safe keeping.<br> <br>
In order to get the fuel I will need large quantities of the following chemical products, the mineral Be3Al2(SiO3)6,) and the chemical lement with atomic number of 79, details about this follow.<br> <br>
For your assistance i
will compensate you with 25\% of the total fuel and another 5\% shall be set aside
to defray any expenses that may arise.
<br> <br>
Please I count on your absolute confidentiality, transparency and trust
while looking forward to your prompt response towards a swift
conclusion of this business transaction</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear Friends , I am Prince Fayad Musa H. Bolkiah , the eldest son of Prince Jefri Bolkiah , former Finance Minister of Earth , the tiny fuel-rich planet on the outer realms .
Due to problems with a trading guild I was advised to evacuate my immediate family outside the sultanate to avoid further prosecution from them .
Before I could do that I was placed under house arrest .
Before my Incaseration , I went ahead to dispatch large sum of fuel with the assistance of friend in a galaxy far away .
The fuel has now been deposited as valuables into different private security and trust company for safe keeping .
In order to get the fuel I will need large quantities of the following chemical products , the mineral Be3Al2 ( SiO3 ) 6 , ) and the chemical lement with atomic number of 79 , details about this follow .
For your assistance i will compensate you with 25 \ % of the total fuel and another 5 \ % shall be set aside to defray any expenses that may arise .
Please I count on your absolute confidentiality , transparency and trust while looking forward to your prompt response towards a swift conclusion of this business transaction</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear Friends,
 
I am Prince Fayad Musa H. Bolkiah, the eldest son of Prince Jefri Bolkiah,
former Finance Minister of Earth, the tiny fuel-rich planet on the outer realms.
Due to problems with a trading guild I was advised to evacuate my immediate family outside the sultanate to avoid further prosecution from them.
Before I could do that I was placed
under house arrest.
Before my Incaseration, I went ahead to dispatch large sum of fuel with the
assistance of friend in a galaxy far away.
The fuel has now
been deposited as valuables into different private security and trust company
for safe keeping.
In order to get the fuel I will need large quantities of the following chemical products, the mineral Be3Al2(SiO3)6,) and the chemical lement with atomic number of 79, details about this follow.
For your assistance i
will compensate you with 25\% of the total fuel and another 5\% shall be set aside
to defray any expenses that may arise.
Please I count on your absolute confidentiality, transparency and trust
while looking forward to your prompt response towards a swift
conclusion of this business transaction</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28252291</id>
	<title>Only one possible answer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244482560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All our base are belong to you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All our base are belong to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All our base are belong to you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244307</id>
	<title>Hello, want to probe me?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Hello, want to probe my ass?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hello , want to probe my ass ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hello, want to probe my ass?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242583</id>
	<title>What up?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Word.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Word .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Word.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28254201</id>
	<title>damn you they're reading this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244490780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and now you spilt the secret!</p><p>You thoughtless slashdot jerk!<br>CmdrTaco is overtaken by the powers of Oog Uug</p><p>Now Oog Uug knows about our deceit and treachery.<br>Prepare for attack!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and now you spilt the secret ! You thoughtless slashdot jerk ! CmdrTaco is overtaken by the powers of Oog UugNow Oog Uug knows about our deceit and treachery.Prepare for attack !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and now you spilt the secret!You thoughtless slashdot jerk!CmdrTaco is overtaken by the powers of Oog UugNow Oog Uug knows about our deceit and treachery.Prepare for attack!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244377</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>AhtirTano</author>
	<datestamp>1244371620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Greg Bear's book "Anvil of Stars" has an alien species where non-sentient Cords come together to form aggregate, intelligent beings called Braids. Because sentience isn't available until multiple Cords have come together, and there does not appear to be a limit on the number of Cords that can aggregate, the Braids never developed a concept of "integers". One Braid (a collection of multiple Cords) can merge with another Braid to form a single Braid: 1 + 1 = 1. All math, therefore, is based on fractions, not whole numbers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Greg Bear 's book " Anvil of Stars " has an alien species where non-sentient Cords come together to form aggregate , intelligent beings called Braids .
Because sentience is n't available until multiple Cords have come together , and there does not appear to be a limit on the number of Cords that can aggregate , the Braids never developed a concept of " integers " .
One Braid ( a collection of multiple Cords ) can merge with another Braid to form a single Braid : 1 + 1 = 1 .
All math , therefore , is based on fractions , not whole numbers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Greg Bear's book "Anvil of Stars" has an alien species where non-sentient Cords come together to form aggregate, intelligent beings called Braids.
Because sentience isn't available until multiple Cords have come together, and there does not appear to be a limit on the number of Cords that can aggregate, the Braids never developed a concept of "integers".
One Braid (a collection of multiple Cords) can merge with another Braid to form a single Braid: 1 + 1 = 1.
All math, therefore, is based on fractions, not whole numbers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243979</id>
	<title>My response</title>
	<author>ralphclintellis</author>
	<datestamp>1244368740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tell them "Humans are best taken with a bit of salt.  BBQ sauce might help too"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell them " Humans are best taken with a bit of salt .
BBQ sauce might help too "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell them "Humans are best taken with a bit of salt.
BBQ sauce might help too"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28253441</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244487600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure it will go over well with them when, after we greet them nicely and say what a gentle people we are, they see how a lot of our population plays a game called "Space Invaders"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure it will go over well with them when , after we greet them nicely and say what a gentle people we are , they see how a lot of our population plays a game called " Space Invaders " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure it will go over well with them when, after we greet them nicely and say what a gentle people we are, they see how a lot of our population plays a game called "Space Invaders"...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242053</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28259215</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244467980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds about right...</p><p>I'd start off with some kind of binary counter:<br>0000001<br>0000010<br>0000011...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...up to some arbitrary number and then repeat.</p><p>Sure it would seem very simple and not all that exciting. On the surface, it even appears less ambitious than the Aricebo broadcast. But unlike some other knowledge imparted by mathematical abstracts, if you do it right - counting in binary isn't going to be mistaken for noise or natural phenomena. You might have periodical signals from pulsars and the such and anomalous signals that could be considered planetary phenomena. But if you broadcast a very obvious yet simple binary counter, somebody on the other end should figure out it's artificial. (A pulse based broadcasting system with adjacent frequencies acting as digit placeholders should be able to make a nice strong signal without wasting energy on maintaining a constant carrier signal. Engineering-wise, it should be easy enough to figure out what would be reasonable in terms of power vs. pulses per unit time vs. project cost. Someone should just make it happen already.)</p><p>I suspect a recieving radio astronomer may see some unusual pulses and think "this is interesting." If they look at it long enough to notice that the pulses are in sync with pulses on adjacent frequencies from the same location, that might be more interesting. And if the radio astronomer were to monitor that block of frequencies and make a movie of it with each frame set to the time of the fastest repeat of the set. (Since the lowest digit will be going 1 0 1 0...) Appearance of a binary counter within that movie should be the "Bingo!" moment. (Of course this is after ruling out any native radio sources.)</p><p>To me, seeing a binary counter show up would basically be saying, "We have the technology and the will to communicate, is anyone else out there?" It's the hailing signal that says you know enough about math and electronics to attempt a crude yet workable communcation channel.</p><p>Leave all the details and more complicated messages to be worked out later, provided there is a recognizable response. (The most obvious of which may be another variation of the binary counter, perhaps frequency shifted or in reverse order.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds about right...I 'd start off with some kind of binary counter : 000000100000100000011... ...up to some arbitrary number and then repeat.Sure it would seem very simple and not all that exciting .
On the surface , it even appears less ambitious than the Aricebo broadcast .
But unlike some other knowledge imparted by mathematical abstracts , if you do it right - counting in binary is n't going to be mistaken for noise or natural phenomena .
You might have periodical signals from pulsars and the such and anomalous signals that could be considered planetary phenomena .
But if you broadcast a very obvious yet simple binary counter , somebody on the other end should figure out it 's artificial .
( A pulse based broadcasting system with adjacent frequencies acting as digit placeholders should be able to make a nice strong signal without wasting energy on maintaining a constant carrier signal .
Engineering-wise , it should be easy enough to figure out what would be reasonable in terms of power vs. pulses per unit time vs. project cost .
Someone should just make it happen already .
) I suspect a recieving radio astronomer may see some unusual pulses and think " this is interesting .
" If they look at it long enough to notice that the pulses are in sync with pulses on adjacent frequencies from the same location , that might be more interesting .
And if the radio astronomer were to monitor that block of frequencies and make a movie of it with each frame set to the time of the fastest repeat of the set .
( Since the lowest digit will be going 1 0 1 0... ) Appearance of a binary counter within that movie should be the " Bingo !
" moment .
( Of course this is after ruling out any native radio sources .
) To me , seeing a binary counter show up would basically be saying , " We have the technology and the will to communicate , is anyone else out there ?
" It 's the hailing signal that says you know enough about math and electronics to attempt a crude yet workable communcation channel.Leave all the details and more complicated messages to be worked out later , provided there is a recognizable response .
( The most obvious of which may be another variation of the binary counter , perhaps frequency shifted or in reverse order .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds about right...I'd start off with some kind of binary counter:000000100000100000011... ...up to some arbitrary number and then repeat.Sure it would seem very simple and not all that exciting.
On the surface, it even appears less ambitious than the Aricebo broadcast.
But unlike some other knowledge imparted by mathematical abstracts, if you do it right - counting in binary isn't going to be mistaken for noise or natural phenomena.
You might have periodical signals from pulsars and the such and anomalous signals that could be considered planetary phenomena.
But if you broadcast a very obvious yet simple binary counter, somebody on the other end should figure out it's artificial.
(A pulse based broadcasting system with adjacent frequencies acting as digit placeholders should be able to make a nice strong signal without wasting energy on maintaining a constant carrier signal.
Engineering-wise, it should be easy enough to figure out what would be reasonable in terms of power vs. pulses per unit time vs. project cost.
Someone should just make it happen already.
)I suspect a recieving radio astronomer may see some unusual pulses and think "this is interesting.
" If they look at it long enough to notice that the pulses are in sync with pulses on adjacent frequencies from the same location, that might be more interesting.
And if the radio astronomer were to monitor that block of frequencies and make a movie of it with each frame set to the time of the fastest repeat of the set.
(Since the lowest digit will be going 1 0 1 0...) Appearance of a binary counter within that movie should be the "Bingo!
" moment.
(Of course this is after ruling out any native radio sources.
)To me, seeing a binary counter show up would basically be saying, "We have the technology and the will to communicate, is anyone else out there?
" It's the hailing signal that says you know enough about math and electronics to attempt a crude yet workable communcation channel.Leave all the details and more complicated messages to be worked out later, provided there is a recognizable response.
(The most obvious of which may be another variation of the binary counter, perhaps frequency shifted or in reverse order.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244037</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>monktus</author>
	<datestamp>1244369280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Oh man, I can't believe I sucked your jagon."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Oh man , I ca n't believe I sucked your jagon .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Oh man, I can't believe I sucked your jagon.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242041</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251267</id>
	<title>About those whales ...</title>
	<author>haapi</author>
	<datestamp>1244477220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... well, this is awkward.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... well , this is awkward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... well, this is awkward.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247193</id>
	<title>Classic</title>
	<author>horninge</author>
	<datestamp>1244396940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All your base are belong to us!</htmltext>
<tokenext>All your base are belong to us !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All your base are belong to us!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243407</id>
	<title>"What would you say first to an alien?"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244406540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Hello, alien?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hello , alien ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hello, alien?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243721</id>
	<title>if they come to visit us</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1244366040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We are screwed no matter what we do as they are far more advanced then us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We are screwed no matter what we do as they are far more advanced then us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We are screwed no matter what we do as they are far more advanced then us.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243937</id>
	<title>Dear mr. Alien, Please...</title>
	<author>SiggyRadiation</author>
	<datestamp>1244368380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Take our leaders with you!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Take our leaders with you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take our leaders with you!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242843</id>
	<title>Hmm...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244402340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keep you mandibles where I see them!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep you mandibles where I see them !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep you mandibles where I see them!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243541</id>
	<title>Stick to well proven methods.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244407560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A/S/L?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A/S/L ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A/S/L?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242353</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>ScrewMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1244398800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show. Given time, this can be relaxed. If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war.</p></div><p>
Well, as it happens with tried that approach with Mexico. It turned out they were interested in colonization anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Be respectful , and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show .
Given time , this can be relaxed .
If they do seem interested in colonization , prepare for war .
Well , as it happens with tried that approach with Mexico .
It turned out they were interested in colonization anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.
Given time, this can be relaxed.
If they do seem interested in colonization, prepare for war.
Well, as it happens with tried that approach with Mexico.
It turned out they were interested in colonization anyway.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241863</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251931</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>CmdrGravy</author>
	<datestamp>1244480760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"you've traveled to a foreign land where you don't know the language"</p></div></blockquote><p>I think the protocol is just to smile and offer them a vegemite sandwich.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" you 've traveled to a foreign land where you do n't know the language " I think the protocol is just to smile and offer them a vegemite sandwich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"you've traveled to a foreign land where you don't know the language"I think the protocol is just to smile and offer them a vegemite sandwich.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243103</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249293</id>
	<title>Re:No one seems to have mentioned this.......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244464920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alien1: Anything new on our screens yet?<br>Alien2: Here there's this polluted, resource-drained planet with a self-decimating species who already talks about guns although we havent yet appeared!?<br>Alien1: Well, then, turn on the grill.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alien1 : Anything new on our screens yet ? Alien2 : Here there 's this polluted , resource-drained planet with a self-decimating species who already talks about guns although we havent yet appeared !
? Alien1 : Well , then , turn on the grill .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alien1: Anything new on our screens yet?Alien2: Here there's this polluted, resource-drained planet with a self-decimating species who already talks about guns although we havent yet appeared!
?Alien1: Well, then, turn on the grill.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246857</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>passion</author>
	<datestamp>1244393100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>c) kinetic energy</i><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... or as Neil Stephenson put it recently in Anathem, "getting rodded".</htmltext>
<tokenext>c ) kinetic energy ... or as Neil Stephenson put it recently in Anathem , " getting rodded " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>c) kinetic energy ... or as Neil Stephenson put it recently in Anathem, "getting rodded".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249639</id>
	<title>I'd say...</title>
	<author>Muad'Dave</author>
	<datestamp>1244468100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Welcome to Earth. We taste terrible, by the way."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Welcome to Earth .
We taste terrible , by the way .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Welcome to Earth.
We taste terrible, by the way.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247897</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>h4rm0ny</author>
	<datestamp>1244492460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Any alien race advanced enough to go wandering the stars HAS ALREADY FOUND PEACE AT HOME</p></div></blockquote><p>
Unless of course they're being chased by the Cylons.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Any alien race advanced enough to go wandering the stars HAS ALREADY FOUND PEACE AT HOME Unless of course they 're being chased by the Cylons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any alien race advanced enough to go wandering the stars HAS ALREADY FOUND PEACE AT HOME
Unless of course they're being chased by the Cylons.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243969</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243679</id>
	<title>Why they haven't showed up already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244365500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I see you finally decided on what to wear."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I see you finally decided on what to wear .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I see you finally decided on what to wear.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242387</id>
	<title>the universal greeting...</title>
	<author>mr\_walrus</author>
	<datestamp>1244398980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Pull my finger..."<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Pull my finger... " : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Pull my finger..." :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243811</id>
	<title>Don't worry about those radio/tv broadcast</title>
	<author>aepervius</author>
	<datestamp>1244367180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Freeze and play dead? Someone really should have thought of that \_before\_ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis. Those waves really don't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood.</i> <br> <br> <br>TV and radio braodcast are not detectable after a few dozen AU, at msot 1 light year (nearest solar system is 4 LY and galaxy width is measured in tens of thousand of LY to give you an idea). The reason for that is that the signal are not directional, and thus the strength of the signal goes weaker as you increase the sphere from which it diffuse to. At a distance we are speaking of, it is virtually undetectable. More or less you would have to make a powerful directional and very narrow signal toward another system to be detected at a few LY distance. Which is why SETI can only detect another specy which WANT to be detected for the same reason. <br> <br>As for being well known , we would be well known only in a very very small corner of our galaxy EVEN if the signal could travel such a distance... At most 100 LY if you count the first radio broadcast (and be VERY very very generous).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Freeze and play dead ?
Someone really should have thought of that \ _before \ _ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis .
Those waves really do n't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood .
TV and radio braodcast are not detectable after a few dozen AU , at msot 1 light year ( nearest solar system is 4 LY and galaxy width is measured in tens of thousand of LY to give you an idea ) .
The reason for that is that the signal are not directional , and thus the strength of the signal goes weaker as you increase the sphere from which it diffuse to .
At a distance we are speaking of , it is virtually undetectable .
More or less you would have to make a powerful directional and very narrow signal toward another system to be detected at a few LY distance .
Which is why SETI can only detect another specy which WANT to be detected for the same reason .
As for being well known , we would be well known only in a very very small corner of our galaxy EVEN if the signal could travel such a distance... At most 100 LY if you count the first radio broadcast ( and be VERY very very generous ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Freeze and play dead?
Someone really should have thought of that \_before\_ we started broadcasting radio and TV and a planet-wide basis.
Those waves really don't stop when they hit the outer atmosphere you know... By now we should be fairly well-known in our galactic neighbourhood.
TV and radio braodcast are not detectable after a few dozen AU, at msot 1 light year (nearest solar system is 4 LY and galaxy width is measured in tens of thousand of LY to give you an idea).
The reason for that is that the signal are not directional, and thus the strength of the signal goes weaker as you increase the sphere from which it diffuse to.
At a distance we are speaking of, it is virtually undetectable.
More or less you would have to make a powerful directional and very narrow signal toward another system to be detected at a few LY distance.
Which is why SETI can only detect another specy which WANT to be detected for the same reason.
As for being well known , we would be well known only in a very very small corner of our galaxy EVEN if the signal could travel such a distance... At most 100 LY if you count the first radio broadcast (and be VERY very very generous).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241821</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243691</id>
	<title>the answer is obvious....</title>
	<author>Schnoogs</author>
	<datestamp>1244365620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...All your base are belong to us</htmltext>
<tokenext>...All your base are belong to us</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...All your base are belong to us</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</id>
	<title>Math.</title>
	<author>solios</author>
	<datestamp>1244396460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It'll be the one thing we have in common, no matter what.  However they conceptualize it, unless our first contact is some kind of space manatee that communicates in radio waves, whatever we make contact with will have to have developed transmission/reception capability.  Language would be a big puzzle to crack, and probably a really frustrating one... but 2+2=4 everywhere you go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'll be the one thing we have in common , no matter what .
However they conceptualize it , unless our first contact is some kind of space manatee that communicates in radio waves , whatever we make contact with will have to have developed transmission/reception capability .
Language would be a big puzzle to crack , and probably a really frustrating one... but 2 + 2 = 4 everywhere you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'll be the one thing we have in common, no matter what.
However they conceptualize it, unless our first contact is some kind of space manatee that communicates in radio waves, whatever we make contact with will have to have developed transmission/reception capability.
Language would be a big puzzle to crack, and probably a really frustrating one... but 2+2=4 everywhere you go.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243953</id>
	<title>every day</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244368500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Good morning, sweetheart.  Coffee's ready."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Good morning , sweetheart .
Coffee 's ready .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Good morning, sweetheart.
Coffee's ready.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247373</id>
	<title>Re:Really so Advanced?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244399400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To my knowledge we have at least general knowledge of every major technology we would need to travel between stars</p></div><p>No offense, but WHAT?? There are so many problems with interstellar travel... lets consider a few, from the perspectives of spacecraft and tech available today.</p><p>Spacecraft range: The biggest single problem. Space is big. Really, really, REALLY big. The fastest spacecraft we currently posess would take centuries to reach Alpha Centauri (the next-closest star, a mere 4 light-years or so away). In theory, an ion-drive spacecraft could get up to a noticeable fraction of c, given enough fuel, but we can't currently provide that (ion drives are amazingly efficient, but they still need two resources - reaction mass and power). Ramscoops aren't currently possible, if they'll even work (we're not sure they would). Our best reactors have a lifetime of decades, but those are Earth-based installations - current long-range spacecraft are powered by radioactive thermal decay, which can't produce enough power over a long enough time - we would need to use fission, at a minimum.</p><p>Solar sails might be usable, but they're currently pure sci-fi. Also, at least some of the things they theoretically could do - "tack" toward a star, for example - just don't work. Sailboats can tack for two reasons: air pressure sufficient to make airfoils work, and water viscosity being much greater than air viscosity. It's possible - I don't know the math - that an "airfoil" could work in solar wind, but I rather doubt it. However, the thrust vector of an airfoil is perpendicular to the wind direction. Sailboats have keels for two reasons - to keep them from flipping over, and to force them to move only forward and backward (meaning that the airfoil thrust need only be slightly forward of 90 degrees to get forward motion). Without something to "grip" like that, even a 100\% efficient solar-foil could only orbit a star at constant distance.</p><p>Warp drive... now we're out of even the realm of things we can begin to experimentally prove. There is a theoretical mathematical model that, *if* our understanding of relativity is correct, permits moving faster than light (actually, moving at any arbitrary speed, given enough power). In short form, it consists of compressing space in front of the ship, and expanding it behind - the space in the middle, where the ship is, technically doesn't move at all. Now, the problems:<br>We can't really compress space. In essense, we're talking gravity control here. In theory, with enough energy (or mass, they're related after all), it's possible. We dont' know how, though.<br>We do not know how to expand space. Negative energy - not the same as anti-matter, but akin to anti-gravity - has been theorized and *maybe* observed, but we can't produce it at will, certainly not over any useful distance or magnitude.<br>The theoretical power output required to be useful is, at minimum, far more than our entire race can produce. It might be more than the rest energy of the entire universe.<br>You can't see where you're going. Anything that hits the "bow wave" gets compressed into a burst of gamma radiation. This includes photons.<br>I trust I don't need to continue? Look it up if you want - it's a cool theiretical model - but I doubt we'll even know if it's possible within my lifetime.</p><p>Ok, how about spacecraft durability? At any kind of decent speed, a micrometeorite, even a spec of dust, could do incredible damage. Making the spacecraft more durable generally means adding mass, which decreases its acceleration and therefore max speed for a given amount of fuel. We don't currently have any kind of shield or navigational deflector that could block a rock of the size you use to skip stones - easily large enough to utterly destroy a spacecraft (if it is anything at all like what we can build today) travelling at the pitiful speed 0.01 c.</p><p>Finally, consider longevity. This is related to range, but worth its own discussion. Power, fuel, and durability have already been considered, but what even keeps the thing running? The most space-hardened computer hardware, with sufficient self-checks and redundency, might last long enough... maybe. It would need to operate utterly outside human control range, though. As for manned exploration, it isn't even worth considering at this point - we probably need some kind of warp drive before it's even worth considering. Sleeper ships, for those who don't mind REALLY long voyages (think about the extra mass necessary for human support), might work if we can handle the range problem some other way - but we can't even get people out of stasis yet (they can put you under, but ice crystals in the brain and such make revival currently impossible). In any case, you are then limited by the longevity of your stasis units.</p><p>There are other problems, of course, but those are the currently insurmountable ones that come to mind. We aren't even close to the technology needed.</p></div>
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<tokenext>To my knowledge we have at least general knowledge of every major technology we would need to travel between starsNo offense , but WHAT ? ?
There are so many problems with interstellar travel... lets consider a few , from the perspectives of spacecraft and tech available today.Spacecraft range : The biggest single problem .
Space is big .
Really , really , REALLY big .
The fastest spacecraft we currently posess would take centuries to reach Alpha Centauri ( the next-closest star , a mere 4 light-years or so away ) .
In theory , an ion-drive spacecraft could get up to a noticeable fraction of c , given enough fuel , but we ca n't currently provide that ( ion drives are amazingly efficient , but they still need two resources - reaction mass and power ) .
Ramscoops are n't currently possible , if they 'll even work ( we 're not sure they would ) .
Our best reactors have a lifetime of decades , but those are Earth-based installations - current long-range spacecraft are powered by radioactive thermal decay , which ca n't produce enough power over a long enough time - we would need to use fission , at a minimum.Solar sails might be usable , but they 're currently pure sci-fi .
Also , at least some of the things they theoretically could do - " tack " toward a star , for example - just do n't work .
Sailboats can tack for two reasons : air pressure sufficient to make airfoils work , and water viscosity being much greater than air viscosity .
It 's possible - I do n't know the math - that an " airfoil " could work in solar wind , but I rather doubt it .
However , the thrust vector of an airfoil is perpendicular to the wind direction .
Sailboats have keels for two reasons - to keep them from flipping over , and to force them to move only forward and backward ( meaning that the airfoil thrust need only be slightly forward of 90 degrees to get forward motion ) .
Without something to " grip " like that , even a 100 \ % efficient solar-foil could only orbit a star at constant distance.Warp drive... now we 're out of even the realm of things we can begin to experimentally prove .
There is a theoretical mathematical model that , * if * our understanding of relativity is correct , permits moving faster than light ( actually , moving at any arbitrary speed , given enough power ) .
In short form , it consists of compressing space in front of the ship , and expanding it behind - the space in the middle , where the ship is , technically does n't move at all .
Now , the problems : We ca n't really compress space .
In essense , we 're talking gravity control here .
In theory , with enough energy ( or mass , they 're related after all ) , it 's possible .
We dont ' know how , though.We do not know how to expand space .
Negative energy - not the same as anti-matter , but akin to anti-gravity - has been theorized and * maybe * observed , but we ca n't produce it at will , certainly not over any useful distance or magnitude.The theoretical power output required to be useful is , at minimum , far more than our entire race can produce .
It might be more than the rest energy of the entire universe.You ca n't see where you 're going .
Anything that hits the " bow wave " gets compressed into a burst of gamma radiation .
This includes photons.I trust I do n't need to continue ?
Look it up if you want - it 's a cool theiretical model - but I doubt we 'll even know if it 's possible within my lifetime.Ok , how about spacecraft durability ?
At any kind of decent speed , a micrometeorite , even a spec of dust , could do incredible damage .
Making the spacecraft more durable generally means adding mass , which decreases its acceleration and therefore max speed for a given amount of fuel .
We do n't currently have any kind of shield or navigational deflector that could block a rock of the size you use to skip stones - easily large enough to utterly destroy a spacecraft ( if it is anything at all like what we can build today ) travelling at the pitiful speed 0.01 c.Finally , consider longevity .
This is related to range , but worth its own discussion .
Power , fuel , and durability have already been considered , but what even keeps the thing running ?
The most space-hardened computer hardware , with sufficient self-checks and redundency , might last long enough... maybe. It would need to operate utterly outside human control range , though .
As for manned exploration , it is n't even worth considering at this point - we probably need some kind of warp drive before it 's even worth considering .
Sleeper ships , for those who do n't mind REALLY long voyages ( think about the extra mass necessary for human support ) , might work if we can handle the range problem some other way - but we ca n't even get people out of stasis yet ( they can put you under , but ice crystals in the brain and such make revival currently impossible ) .
In any case , you are then limited by the longevity of your stasis units.There are other problems , of course , but those are the currently insurmountable ones that come to mind .
We are n't even close to the technology needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To my knowledge we have at least general knowledge of every major technology we would need to travel between starsNo offense, but WHAT??
There are so many problems with interstellar travel... lets consider a few, from the perspectives of spacecraft and tech available today.Spacecraft range: The biggest single problem.
Space is big.
Really, really, REALLY big.
The fastest spacecraft we currently posess would take centuries to reach Alpha Centauri (the next-closest star, a mere 4 light-years or so away).
In theory, an ion-drive spacecraft could get up to a noticeable fraction of c, given enough fuel, but we can't currently provide that (ion drives are amazingly efficient, but they still need two resources - reaction mass and power).
Ramscoops aren't currently possible, if they'll even work (we're not sure they would).
Our best reactors have a lifetime of decades, but those are Earth-based installations - current long-range spacecraft are powered by radioactive thermal decay, which can't produce enough power over a long enough time - we would need to use fission, at a minimum.Solar sails might be usable, but they're currently pure sci-fi.
Also, at least some of the things they theoretically could do - "tack" toward a star, for example - just don't work.
Sailboats can tack for two reasons: air pressure sufficient to make airfoils work, and water viscosity being much greater than air viscosity.
It's possible - I don't know the math - that an "airfoil" could work in solar wind, but I rather doubt it.
However, the thrust vector of an airfoil is perpendicular to the wind direction.
Sailboats have keels for two reasons - to keep them from flipping over, and to force them to move only forward and backward (meaning that the airfoil thrust need only be slightly forward of 90 degrees to get forward motion).
Without something to "grip" like that, even a 100\% efficient solar-foil could only orbit a star at constant distance.Warp drive... now we're out of even the realm of things we can begin to experimentally prove.
There is a theoretical mathematical model that, *if* our understanding of relativity is correct, permits moving faster than light (actually, moving at any arbitrary speed, given enough power).
In short form, it consists of compressing space in front of the ship, and expanding it behind - the space in the middle, where the ship is, technically doesn't move at all.
Now, the problems:We can't really compress space.
In essense, we're talking gravity control here.
In theory, with enough energy (or mass, they're related after all), it's possible.
We dont' know how, though.We do not know how to expand space.
Negative energy - not the same as anti-matter, but akin to anti-gravity - has been theorized and *maybe* observed, but we can't produce it at will, certainly not over any useful distance or magnitude.The theoretical power output required to be useful is, at minimum, far more than our entire race can produce.
It might be more than the rest energy of the entire universe.You can't see where you're going.
Anything that hits the "bow wave" gets compressed into a burst of gamma radiation.
This includes photons.I trust I don't need to continue?
Look it up if you want - it's a cool theiretical model - but I doubt we'll even know if it's possible within my lifetime.Ok, how about spacecraft durability?
At any kind of decent speed, a micrometeorite, even a spec of dust, could do incredible damage.
Making the spacecraft more durable generally means adding mass, which decreases its acceleration and therefore max speed for a given amount of fuel.
We don't currently have any kind of shield or navigational deflector that could block a rock of the size you use to skip stones - easily large enough to utterly destroy a spacecraft (if it is anything at all like what we can build today) travelling at the pitiful speed 0.01 c.Finally, consider longevity.
This is related to range, but worth its own discussion.
Power, fuel, and durability have already been considered, but what even keeps the thing running?
The most space-hardened computer hardware, with sufficient self-checks and redundency, might last long enough... maybe. It would need to operate utterly outside human control range, though.
As for manned exploration, it isn't even worth considering at this point - we probably need some kind of warp drive before it's even worth considering.
Sleeper ships, for those who don't mind REALLY long voyages (think about the extra mass necessary for human support), might work if we can handle the range problem some other way - but we can't even get people out of stasis yet (they can put you under, but ice crystals in the brain and such make revival currently impossible).
In any case, you are then limited by the longevity of your stasis units.There are other problems, of course, but those are the currently insurmountable ones that come to mind.
We aren't even close to the technology needed.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241835</id>
	<title>Take off and nuke the site from orbit...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, I mean, freeze and play dead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , I mean , freeze and play dead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, I mean, freeze and play dead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241977</id>
	<title>No one seems to have mentioned this.......</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244395980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>What if they were to arrive in our solar system and not care about us? I mean, what if they didn't care about lifeforms? It's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them. That's a drive that seems to be uniquely human. As far as I know, no animal on earth goes around comparing surrounding species to themselves. I use the earth animal example because we have no other species to compare in the vicinity of our solar system. But back to the point, What if they arrive and simply ignore us?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What if they were to arrive in our solar system and not care about us ?
I mean , what if they did n't care about lifeforms ?
It 's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them .
That 's a drive that seems to be uniquely human .
As far as I know , no animal on earth goes around comparing surrounding species to themselves .
I use the earth animal example because we have no other species to compare in the vicinity of our solar system .
But back to the point , What if they arrive and simply ignore us ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What if they were to arrive in our solar system and not care about us?
I mean, what if they didn't care about lifeforms?
It's a huge assumption that they are looking for others like them.
That's a drive that seems to be uniquely human.
As far as I know, no animal on earth goes around comparing surrounding species to themselves.
I use the earth animal example because we have no other species to compare in the vicinity of our solar system.
But back to the point, What if they arrive and simply ignore us?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242565</id>
	<title>Please, please don't kill me!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244400180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please, please don't kill me!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please , please do n't kill me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please, please don't kill me!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247293</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>Sabriel</author>
	<datestamp>1244398320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history. Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.</p></div><p>
Unless they're coming via Stargate instead of Starship, this strikes me as the right idea but the wrong way around: from high orbit I can see just about everything, go just about anywhere. And were you planning on shutting down every independant communications facility on the planet?
</p><p>
What we'd actually need strictly controlled is *our* knowledge of the alien presence, cultures and history, until we as a species - or at least those of us who run the show - got a firm handle on no longer being alone, let alone top dog, in the universe. We have enough xenophobes already.
</p><p>
(which, incidentally, is why I'd seriously like to see a giant alien starship casually park itself over the Pacific and very publicly do nothing else at all, however much of a fantasy that might actually be)</p></div>
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<tokenext>We should greet others firmly , while revealing little of our own cultures and history .
Be respectful , and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show .
Unless they 're coming via Stargate instead of Starship , this strikes me as the right idea but the wrong way around : from high orbit I can see just about everything , go just about anywhere .
And were you planning on shutting down every independant communications facility on the planet ?
What we 'd actually need strictly controlled is * our * knowledge of the alien presence , cultures and history , until we as a species - or at least those of us who run the show - got a firm handle on no longer being alone , let alone top dog , in the universe .
We have enough xenophobes already .
( which , incidentally , is why I 'd seriously like to see a giant alien starship casually park itself over the Pacific and very publicly do nothing else at all , however much of a fantasy that might actually be )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We should greet others firmly, while revealing little of our own cultures and history.
Be respectful, and allow visitors to see a strictly controlled show.
Unless they're coming via Stargate instead of Starship, this strikes me as the right idea but the wrong way around: from high orbit I can see just about everything, go just about anywhere.
And were you planning on shutting down every independant communications facility on the planet?
What we'd actually need strictly controlled is *our* knowledge of the alien presence, cultures and history, until we as a species - or at least those of us who run the show - got a firm handle on no longer being alone, let alone top dog, in the universe.
We have enough xenophobes already.
(which, incidentally, is why I'd seriously like to see a giant alien starship casually park itself over the Pacific and very publicly do nothing else at all, however much of a fantasy that might actually be)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241927</id>
	<title>First...</title>
	<author>shellster\_dude</author>
	<datestamp>1244395680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We would need to find intelligent life on this planet before we can find it anywhere else!</htmltext>
<tokenext>We would need to find intelligent life on this planet before we can find it anywhere else !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We would need to find intelligent life on this planet before we can find it anywhere else!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243583</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1244407860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Undoing mods to post this, but...
<br> <br>
What makes you think they're so much better?
<br> <br>
Technology?  We have pretty good technology but that doesn't make us any less savage.  No, I think when we finally get our chance at the stars we'll still have plenty of our own problems, and maybe if we're lucky, alien cultures will be similar enough to our own to recognize and empathize with that, and maybe even exchange some of their own cultural uniquenesses for our own.
<br> <br>
We should never play dead.  Knowledge is its own reward.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Undoing mods to post this , but.. . What makes you think they 're so much better ?
Technology ? We have pretty good technology but that does n't make us any less savage .
No , I think when we finally get our chance at the stars we 'll still have plenty of our own problems , and maybe if we 're lucky , alien cultures will be similar enough to our own to recognize and empathize with that , and maybe even exchange some of their own cultural uniquenesses for our own .
We should never play dead .
Knowledge is its own reward .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Undoing mods to post this, but...
 
What makes you think they're so much better?
Technology?  We have pretty good technology but that doesn't make us any less savage.
No, I think when we finally get our chance at the stars we'll still have plenty of our own problems, and maybe if we're lucky, alien cultures will be similar enough to our own to recognize and empathize with that, and maybe even exchange some of their own cultural uniquenesses for our own.
We should never play dead.
Knowledge is its own reward.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244359</id>
	<title>We should talk like we play poker ..</title>
	<author>roguegramma</author>
	<datestamp>1244371560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reveal as less information as possible and only proceed to reveal more valuable information once they have revealed valuable information.</p><p>Basically, say "Hi"  first and then proceed to get a good two-way conversation going.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reveal as less information as possible and only proceed to reveal more valuable information once they have revealed valuable information.Basically , say " Hi " first and then proceed to get a good two-way conversation going .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reveal as less information as possible and only proceed to reveal more valuable information once they have revealed valuable information.Basically, say "Hi"  first and then proceed to get a good two-way conversation going.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244727</id>
	<title>Resistance is Futile</title>
	<author>Lost+Found</author>
	<datestamp>1244374080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Lower your shields and surrender your ships .
We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own .
Your culture will adapt to service us .
Resistance is futile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lower your shields and surrender your ships.
We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own.
Your culture will adapt to service us.
Resistance is futile.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242409</id>
	<title>If they are hot</title>
	<author>usman\_ismail</author>
	<datestamp>1244399100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If they are hot aliens then "How you doin' "</htmltext>
<tokenext>If they are hot aliens then " How you doin ' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they are hot aliens then "How you doin' "</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28254741</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244493120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well I would certainly not say, "All your base are belong to us!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well I would certainly not say , " All your base are belong to us !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well I would certainly not say, "All your base are belong to us!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249103</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>maxwell demon</author>
	<datestamp>1244462700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, the extraterrestrials could be hostile. So instead of asking them for porn, send them the goatse picture to scare them away from earth.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , the extraterrestrials could be hostile .
So instead of asking them for porn , send them the goatse picture to scare them away from earth .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, the extraterrestrials could be hostile.
So instead of asking them for porn, send them the goatse picture to scare them away from earth.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242327</id>
	<title>Everyone knows you just say...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ba weep grahna weep nini bahm!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ba weep grahna weep nini bahm !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ba weep grahna weep nini bahm!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242763</id>
	<title>Re:stupid thought experiment</title>
	<author>bersl2</author>
	<datestamp>1244401740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You managed to involve DRM in a discussion about extraterrestrial life. I am impressed by your mastery of Slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You managed to involve DRM in a discussion about extraterrestrial life .
I am impressed by your mastery of Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You managed to involve DRM in a discussion about extraterrestrial life.
I am impressed by your mastery of Slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243881</id>
	<title>Play a non-threatening Go opening move.</title>
	<author>Domini</author>
	<datestamp>1244367900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suggest 3-4 for a good balance.</p><p>3-3 may even be less threatening, but then they may think us too primitive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest 3-4 for a good balance.3-3 may even be less threatening , but then they may think us too primitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest 3-4 for a good balance.3-3 may even be less threatening, but then they may think us too primitive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28253733</id>
	<title>Lawl</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244488920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>A\S\L?</htmltext>
<tokenext>A \ S \ L ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A\S\L?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246369</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244388360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only if it's with hominids, with an evolutionary descent linked to ours.  (With chimps, for example, would be Rishathra.)  Niven's Ringworld just happened to be covered with such species.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only if it 's with hominids , with an evolutionary descent linked to ours .
( With chimps , for example , would be Rishathra .
) Niven 's Ringworld just happened to be covered with such species .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only if it's with hominids, with an evolutionary descent linked to ours.
(With chimps, for example, would be Rishathra.
)  Niven's Ringworld just happened to be covered with such species.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242641</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247821</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>nizo</author>
	<datestamp>1244491680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I think we can assume if they intend to wipe us out, they won't even bother contacting us, since doing what you mentioned wouldn't require that we even know they exist. I mean how hard would it be for them to drop biological weapons on us undetected?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I think we can assume if they intend to wipe us out , they wo n't even bother contacting us , since doing what you mentioned would n't require that we even know they exist .
I mean how hard would it be for them to drop biological weapons on us undetected ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I think we can assume if they intend to wipe us out, they won't even bother contacting us, since doing what you mentioned wouldn't require that we even know they exist.
I mean how hard would it be for them to drop biological weapons on us undetected?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242051</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246145</id>
	<title>Re:Really so Advanced?</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1244386020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one, its a matter of money and willpower.</p></div> </blockquote><p>
Precisely, will power spent on maintaining the status quo. Excellent post!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one , its a matter of money and willpower .
Precisely , will power spent on maintaining the status quo .
Excellent post !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one, its a matter of money and willpower.
Precisely, will power spent on maintaining the status quo.
Excellent post!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243133</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242199</id>
	<title>Send them the Voynich Manuscript</title>
	<author>mbone</author>
	<datestamp>1244397660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Send them the <a href="http://www.voynich.nu/" title="voynich.nu">Voynich Manuscript</a> [voynich.nu].</p><p>That should buy some time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Send them the Voynich Manuscript [ voynich.nu ] .That should buy some time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Send them the Voynich Manuscript [voynich.nu].That should buy some time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241851</id>
	<title>There is no way to be "Silent"...</title>
	<author>NukeDoggie</author>
	<datestamp>1244395140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They would be advanced enough to hear us like we hear them...  We emit lots of noise without trying.  We would have to face them head on and with as little fear as we can, which means each nation would try to oneup each other in favor, and then war would ensue...</htmltext>
<tokenext>They would be advanced enough to hear us like we hear them... We emit lots of noise without trying .
We would have to face them head on and with as little fear as we can , which means each nation would try to oneup each other in favor , and then war would ensue.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They would be advanced enough to hear us like we hear them...  We emit lots of noise without trying.
We would have to face them head on and with as little fear as we can, which means each nation would try to oneup each other in favor, and then war would ensue...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28260049</id>
	<title>No Brainer: The universal Greeting!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244472960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Baw Weep.<br>Bah Nah Weep.<br>Niddy-grod!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Baw Weep.Bah Nah Weep.Niddy-grod !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Baw Weep.Bah Nah Weep.Niddy-grod!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242851</id>
	<title>Um ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244402460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242795</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>glueball</author>
	<datestamp>1244401920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps the intention with saying "we have guns" is we could annihilate ourselves if we thought it was in our best interest.  Game theory intergalactic style.</p><p>Game type #1:<br>So imagine you are an alien, all peaceful and loving and just wanting to love a new species.  Everything would work out, right?  These would be the aliens like ET or Cocoon.  Sure, we'd be labeled the North Koreans on the galactic block but at least we have a new place to visit.  Maybe they have an intergalactic Dr. Phil who can help establish some trust.</p><p>Game type #2<br>Now what if you were a not so peaceful alien.  You want to live on earth, but wow.  Those humans are bat-shit crazy enough to destroy the planet.  We better treat them kindly because if we fuck with them, they'll torch the place.  These would be the aliens from Predator or Transformers.</p><p>Game type #3<br>The third possibility is that they will annihilate us no matter what our response.  If we can quickly convey that we are crazy and will salt the earth, at least we might have a dog in the fight.  The weapons might be ineffective on the aliens but we know they'll work on earth itself.  These would be the Independence Day aliens.  Not everyone can place a virus into the mother ship, but there's a reason that the Independence Day aliens chose earth and not Mars.</p><p>Being nice will leave you only +1 to the peaceful aliens.  Being crazy will leave you +2 or +3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps the intention with saying " we have guns " is we could annihilate ourselves if we thought it was in our best interest .
Game theory intergalactic style.Game type # 1 : So imagine you are an alien , all peaceful and loving and just wanting to love a new species .
Everything would work out , right ?
These would be the aliens like ET or Cocoon .
Sure , we 'd be labeled the North Koreans on the galactic block but at least we have a new place to visit .
Maybe they have an intergalactic Dr. Phil who can help establish some trust.Game type # 2Now what if you were a not so peaceful alien .
You want to live on earth , but wow .
Those humans are bat-shit crazy enough to destroy the planet .
We better treat them kindly because if we fuck with them , they 'll torch the place .
These would be the aliens from Predator or Transformers.Game type # 3The third possibility is that they will annihilate us no matter what our response .
If we can quickly convey that we are crazy and will salt the earth , at least we might have a dog in the fight .
The weapons might be ineffective on the aliens but we know they 'll work on earth itself .
These would be the Independence Day aliens .
Not everyone can place a virus into the mother ship , but there 's a reason that the Independence Day aliens chose earth and not Mars.Being nice will leave you only + 1 to the peaceful aliens .
Being crazy will leave you + 2 or + 3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps the intention with saying "we have guns" is we could annihilate ourselves if we thought it was in our best interest.
Game theory intergalactic style.Game type #1:So imagine you are an alien, all peaceful and loving and just wanting to love a new species.
Everything would work out, right?
These would be the aliens like ET or Cocoon.
Sure, we'd be labeled the North Koreans on the galactic block but at least we have a new place to visit.
Maybe they have an intergalactic Dr. Phil who can help establish some trust.Game type #2Now what if you were a not so peaceful alien.
You want to live on earth, but wow.
Those humans are bat-shit crazy enough to destroy the planet.
We better treat them kindly because if we fuck with them, they'll torch the place.
These would be the aliens from Predator or Transformers.Game type #3The third possibility is that they will annihilate us no matter what our response.
If we can quickly convey that we are crazy and will salt the earth, at least we might have a dog in the fight.
The weapons might be ineffective on the aliens but we know they'll work on earth itself.
These would be the Independence Day aliens.
Not everyone can place a virus into the mother ship, but there's a reason that the Independence Day aliens chose earth and not Mars.Being nice will leave you only +1 to the peaceful aliens.
Being crazy will leave you +2 or +3.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242053</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28248293</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>drkfdr</author>
	<datestamp>1244452980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what if they have more than one tentacle?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what if they have more than one tentacle ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what if they have more than one tentacle?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242041</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28249875</id>
	<title>easy..use a South Park episode</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244469900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Human - (let alien sample a fishstick..everyone likes 'em)  "Do you like fishsticks"<br>Alien - "uuhhh yeah"<br>Human - 'So you like putting fishsticks in your mouth?'<br>Alien - 'yeah'<br>Human - 'then you're a gay fish'</p><p>hilarity will ensue...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Human - ( let alien sample a fishstick..everyone likes 'em ) " Do you like fishsticks " Alien - " uuhhh yeah " Human - 'So you like putting fishsticks in your mouth ?
'Alien - 'yeah'Human - 'then you 're a gay fish'hilarity will ensue.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Human - (let alien sample a fishstick..everyone likes 'em)  "Do you like fishsticks"Alien - "uuhhh yeah"Human - 'So you like putting fishsticks in your mouth?
'Alien - 'yeah'Human - 'then you're a gay fish'hilarity will ensue...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243987</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>imtheguru</author>
	<datestamp>1244368800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fibonacci numbers or the Golden ratio would make us look a bit more erudite.</p><p>Or maybe we'd get some interesting responses by broadcasting currently unsolved mathematical problems into the ether...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fibonacci numbers or the Golden ratio would make us look a bit more erudite.Or maybe we 'd get some interesting responses by broadcasting currently unsolved mathematical problems into the ether.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fibonacci numbers or the Golden ratio would make us look a bit more erudite.Or maybe we'd get some interesting responses by broadcasting currently unsolved mathematical problems into the ether...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243267</id>
	<title>Re:Don't play dead</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1244405400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>but not display any violent potential.</p></div><p>The opinion of what is violent is a bit variable culturally.  Buddhist monks and Ancient Aztecs likely disagree.  No point in pretending to use a filter that does not actually work.  Even worse, if you give them a Barney DVD and send them on their way, they are going to have some pretty screwed up ideas about what is what.</p><p>Finally they have a huge advantage over us.  They can give us someone elses culture, see what we think of it, and then say "just kidding" if it all works out.  Even funnier, they can try to emulate star trek episodes from TV.  I hope for some 7 of 9 and less of that living lava rock that lived in the tunnels.  So, be prepared for some pretty goofy data from the aliens.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>but not display any violent potential.The opinion of what is violent is a bit variable culturally .
Buddhist monks and Ancient Aztecs likely disagree .
No point in pretending to use a filter that does not actually work .
Even worse , if you give them a Barney DVD and send them on their way , they are going to have some pretty screwed up ideas about what is what.Finally they have a huge advantage over us .
They can give us someone elses culture , see what we think of it , and then say " just kidding " if it all works out .
Even funnier , they can try to emulate star trek episodes from TV .
I hope for some 7 of 9 and less of that living lava rock that lived in the tunnels .
So , be prepared for some pretty goofy data from the aliens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but not display any violent potential.The opinion of what is violent is a bit variable culturally.
Buddhist monks and Ancient Aztecs likely disagree.
No point in pretending to use a filter that does not actually work.
Even worse, if you give them a Barney DVD and send them on their way, they are going to have some pretty screwed up ideas about what is what.Finally they have a huge advantage over us.
They can give us someone elses culture, see what we think of it, and then say "just kidding" if it all works out.
Even funnier, they can try to emulate star trek episodes from TV.
I hope for some 7 of 9 and less of that living lava rock that lived in the tunnels.
So, be prepared for some pretty goofy data from the aliens.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242245</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244643</id>
	<title>Re:Math.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244373300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2+2=5</p><p>But only for high values of 2. Thank you scientific notation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2 + 2 = 5But only for high values of 2 .
Thank you scientific notation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2+2=5But only for high values of 2.
Thank you scientific notation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242033</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28248563</id>
	<title>Re:Closest Star is 3,900 years away</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244456280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think you understand the the argument here. What hax0r\_this is saying, is that we <i>could</i> have the technology for interstellar travel if we had put our money and effort in it, instead of in e.g. wars. With relatively little money we've put a man on the moon. Imagine where we would be if we invested the amount of money the US had put in the Iraq war, into spacecraft propulsion research.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think you understand the the argument here .
What hax0r \ _this is saying , is that we could have the technology for interstellar travel if we had put our money and effort in it , instead of in e.g .
wars. With relatively little money we 've put a man on the moon .
Imagine where we would be if we invested the amount of money the US had put in the Iraq war , into spacecraft propulsion research .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think you understand the the argument here.
What hax0r\_this is saying, is that we could have the technology for interstellar travel if we had put our money and effort in it, instead of in e.g.
wars. With relatively little money we've put a man on the moon.
Imagine where we would be if we invested the amount of money the US had put in the Iraq war, into spacecraft propulsion research.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244543</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247755</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244404440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>got any new porn we haven't seen yet ???</i> </p><p>From TFS:</p><p> <i>If we discover intelligent life beyond Earth, we should not reply -- we should freeze and play dead.</i> </p><p>And hope that, while we hide under the bed, they don't walk through the bedroom and hear one of us let go of a fart.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>got any new porn we have n't seen yet ? ? ?
From TFS : If we discover intelligent life beyond Earth , we should not reply -- we should freeze and play dead .
And hope that , while we hide under the bed , they do n't walk through the bedroom and hear one of us let go of a fart .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>got any new porn we haven't seen yet ???
From TFS: If we discover intelligent life beyond Earth, we should not reply -- we should freeze and play dead.
And hope that, while we hide under the bed, they don't walk through the bedroom and hear one of us let go of a fart.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245281</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Flere Imsaho</author>
	<datestamp>1244378100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're anthropomorphising. How can we even begin to guess their motivations and behaviour?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're anthropomorphising .
How can we even begin to guess their motivations and behaviour ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're anthropomorphising.
How can we even begin to guess their motivations and behaviour?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28260789</id>
	<title>Don't play 'got your nose'</title>
	<author>JoeGee</author>
	<datestamp>1244476560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They just don't get it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They just do n't get it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They just don't get it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243599</id>
	<title>With all due respect to</title>
	<author>NotBornYesterday</author>
	<datestamp>1244407980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://slashdot.org/~morgan\_greywolf" title="slashdot.org">Morgan Greywolf</a> [slashdot.org], "Earth is full. Go home."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Morgan Greywolf [ slashdot.org ] , " Earth is full .
Go home .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Morgan Greywolf [slashdot.org], "Earth is full.
Go home.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243327</id>
	<title>Re:Freeze and play dead?</title>
	<author>julesh</author>
	<datestamp>1244406060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It means that if they actually wanted to fight us, they could out produce us in terms of Armor and Planes.</i></p><p>Yeah, but we'd be sitting there with the United Nations, so they'd have to offer to make peace with us.</p><p>Wait, you mean we aren't talking about a game of Civilization?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It means that if they actually wanted to fight us , they could out produce us in terms of Armor and Planes.Yeah , but we 'd be sitting there with the United Nations , so they 'd have to offer to make peace with us.Wait , you mean we are n't talking about a game of Civilization ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It means that if they actually wanted to fight us, they could out produce us in terms of Armor and Planes.Yeah, but we'd be sitting there with the United Nations, so they'd have to offer to make peace with us.Wait, you mean we aren't talking about a game of Civilization?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242183</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28247933</id>
	<title>What I would say to an alien</title>
	<author>Orlando</author>
	<datestamp>1244492820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Hello, please help me get away from this bunch of lunatics!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hello , please help me get away from this bunch of lunatics !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hello, please help me get away from this bunch of lunatics!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246345</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244388180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No species makes it to the top by being passive. The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.</p></div><p>These "laws" are very poorly thought out. Species do not make it to the top by virtue of anything <i>the species</i> does or does not do. Species don't make decisions about whether or not to be aggressive; individuals make decisions. Species don't have instincts; individuals do. This is a fairly fundamental evolutionary principle.</p><p>You might rebut that in a civilised species there will be governing bodies that are tasked with ensuring the survival of their species. But that's just begging the question. <i>Who</i>, exactly, assigned this task to this hypothetical governing body? <i>What instinct</i> led to the creation of a body to make sure that this task gets done? The answer: there is no evolutionary pressure for any such instinct.</p><p>It isn't to be expected that individuals will have an interest in making decisions on behalf of their species as a whole. It <i>is</i> to be expected that individuals will have an interest in making decisions on behalf of <i>their own</i> personal welfare; but that is not normally going to lead to genocide except in cases such as (a) insanity, or (b) really, really sloppy thinking like that of the authors of "The Killing Star". There is reason to fear either of these things; but there's no reason to indulge paranoid fantasies.</p></div>
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<tokenext>No species makes it to the top by being passive .
The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent , alert , aggressive , and ruthless when necessary.These " laws " are very poorly thought out .
Species do not make it to the top by virtue of anything the species does or does not do .
Species do n't make decisions about whether or not to be aggressive ; individuals make decisions .
Species do n't have instincts ; individuals do .
This is a fairly fundamental evolutionary principle.You might rebut that in a civilised species there will be governing bodies that are tasked with ensuring the survival of their species .
But that 's just begging the question .
Who , exactly , assigned this task to this hypothetical governing body ?
What instinct led to the creation of a body to make sure that this task gets done ?
The answer : there is no evolutionary pressure for any such instinct.It is n't to be expected that individuals will have an interest in making decisions on behalf of their species as a whole .
It is to be expected that individuals will have an interest in making decisions on behalf of their own personal welfare ; but that is not normally going to lead to genocide except in cases such as ( a ) insanity , or ( b ) really , really sloppy thinking like that of the authors of " The Killing Star " .
There is reason to fear either of these things ; but there 's no reason to indulge paranoid fantasies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No species makes it to the top by being passive.
The species in charge of any given planet will be highly intelligent, alert, aggressive, and ruthless when necessary.These "laws" are very poorly thought out.
Species do not make it to the top by virtue of anything the species does or does not do.
Species don't make decisions about whether or not to be aggressive; individuals make decisions.
Species don't have instincts; individuals do.
This is a fairly fundamental evolutionary principle.You might rebut that in a civilised species there will be governing bodies that are tasked with ensuring the survival of their species.
But that's just begging the question.
Who, exactly, assigned this task to this hypothetical governing body?
What instinct led to the creation of a body to make sure that this task gets done?
The answer: there is no evolutionary pressure for any such instinct.It isn't to be expected that individuals will have an interest in making decisions on behalf of their species as a whole.
It is to be expected that individuals will have an interest in making decisions on behalf of their own personal welfare; but that is not normally going to lead to genocide except in cases such as (a) insanity, or (b) really, really sloppy thinking like that of the authors of "The Killing Star".
There is reason to fear either of these things; but there's no reason to indulge paranoid fantasies.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28246541</id>
	<title>Re:Read FootFall</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244390100000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>While being in orbit does provide you with a good vantage point and easy access to targets anywhere, height advantage becomes a bit less significant once you hit orbit.  You can't just "drop" stuff from orbit, because it'll continue moving in the same orbit you are.  Dropping something requires you to either spend a whole lot of energy to cancel its energy of motion in orbit, do a whole lot of math to have its orbit slowly decay onto the spot you want, or expend a whole lot of energy to remain stationary over the spot you choose, instead of orbiting, so that you can drop stuff.</p><p>Nothing that can't be solved with sufficiently advanced technology, but orbital combat is more than just "high ground."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While being in orbit does provide you with a good vantage point and easy access to targets anywhere , height advantage becomes a bit less significant once you hit orbit .
You ca n't just " drop " stuff from orbit , because it 'll continue moving in the same orbit you are .
Dropping something requires you to either spend a whole lot of energy to cancel its energy of motion in orbit , do a whole lot of math to have its orbit slowly decay onto the spot you want , or expend a whole lot of energy to remain stationary over the spot you choose , instead of orbiting , so that you can drop stuff.Nothing that ca n't be solved with sufficiently advanced technology , but orbital combat is more than just " high ground .
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<sentencetext>While being in orbit does provide you with a good vantage point and easy access to targets anywhere, height advantage becomes a bit less significant once you hit orbit.
You can't just "drop" stuff from orbit, because it'll continue moving in the same orbit you are.
Dropping something requires you to either spend a whole lot of energy to cancel its energy of motion in orbit, do a whole lot of math to have its orbit slowly decay onto the spot you want, or expend a whole lot of energy to remain stationary over the spot you choose, instead of orbiting, so that you can drop stuff.Nothing that can't be solved with sufficiently advanced technology, but orbital combat is more than just "high ground.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242299</id>
	<title>Obvious Answer</title>
	<author>BobNET</author>
	<datestamp>1244398320000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Q: How do you greet an extraterrestrial?<br>A: "Hello, extraterrestrial!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Q : How do you greet an extraterrestrial ? A : " Hello , extraterrestrial !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Q: How do you greet an extraterrestrial?A: "Hello, extraterrestrial!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244309</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244371080000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>No it isn't. Rishathra is doing it with other hominoids, usually intelligent.<br>Possibly actually happened with Neanderthals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No it is n't .
Rishathra is doing it with other hominoids , usually intelligent.Possibly actually happened with Neanderthals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No it isn't.
Rishathra is doing it with other hominoids, usually intelligent.Possibly actually happened with Neanderthals.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242803</id>
	<title>Use Sci-fi propaganda</title>
	<author>EdgeyEdgey</author>
	<datestamp>1244402040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>The best way to get an extraterrestrial race to become comfortable with the idea of other races would be to infiltrate their media/communication networks and plant ideas that aliens aren't that scary, and maybe they could be quite nice.
<br>
 - Start with "The day the Earth stood still" (or alien equivalent). <br>
 - Move on to some Star Trek like series <br>
etc. <br>
Maybe set up some conspiracy theory to get the population to think for themselves.  In general, gradually get the populous happy with the idea of aliens.
<br>
Then appear and say hello.
<br>
Kinda like what's been happening on earth since mid 20th century.
<br>
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I for one will welcome our new extraterrestrial overlords</htmltext>
<tokenext>The best way to get an extraterrestrial race to become comfortable with the idea of other races would be to infiltrate their media/communication networks and plant ideas that aliens are n't that scary , and maybe they could be quite nice .
- Start with " The day the Earth stood still " ( or alien equivalent ) .
- Move on to some Star Trek like series etc .
Maybe set up some conspiracy theory to get the population to think for themselves .
In general , gradually get the populous happy with the idea of aliens .
Then appear and say hello .
Kinda like what 's been happening on earth since mid 20th century .
I for one will welcome our new extraterrestrial overlords</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best way to get an extraterrestrial race to become comfortable with the idea of other races would be to infiltrate their media/communication networks and plant ideas that aliens aren't that scary, and maybe they could be quite nice.
- Start with "The day the Earth stood still" (or alien equivalent).
- Move on to some Star Trek like series 
etc.
Maybe set up some conspiracy theory to get the population to think for themselves.
In general, gradually get the populous happy with the idea of aliens.
Then appear and say hello.
Kinda like what's been happening on earth since mid 20th century.
I for one will welcome our new extraterrestrial overlords</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28248529</id>
	<title>I'd say to them</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244455860000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>"It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... And I'm all outta gum!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... And I 'm all outta gum !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... And I'm all outta gum!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242585</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>keraneuology</author>
	<datestamp>1244400300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unless interstellar travel is nothing but a single "duh" moment away - maybe we're just missing something that will make everything simple and easy to understand.  Like pipes or the wonderbra.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless interstellar travel is nothing but a single " duh " moment away - maybe we 're just missing something that will make everything simple and easy to understand .
Like pipes or the wonderbra .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless interstellar travel is nothing but a single "duh" moment away - maybe we're just missing something that will make everything simple and easy to understand.
Like pipes or the wonderbra.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243279</id>
	<title>Answer: Slowly</title>
	<author>YITBOS</author>
	<datestamp>1244405580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>
I think a very serious subset of the question "How to we greet them?" is "How do we greet them without unknowingly making a cosmic etiquette faux-pas and either triggering a war or having them quickly heading back in the direction they came, appalled by our "uncivilized" or "rude" manners?"<p>

We probably want want to avoid large crowds of civilians, even *if* hypothetically they were all benevolent, accepting, and welcoming towards the extraterrestrials and there were no psychos among them. Any intergalactic travelers would almost no doubt be apprehensive (assuming they have emotions like ours<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P) as they land on an alien planet... so when they open their ship's door and step on to our planet for the first time, it would probably not put them at ease if it were anything resembling the red carpet outside a Hollywood award show as celebrities exit their limo and try to make it inside.</p><p>

It would probably be best to avoid attempting any types of "universal" (by our standards) hand gestures, like an open palm-arm raised upward "hi" gesture or (unless they are humanoid and have pointed ears) the Vulcan salute. </p><p>

In all probability they have a completely different physiology than ours and have no way of knowing whether or they see it as "welcoming" or are doing the equivalent of an alien "grab my crotch and spit on your shoes." We have this problem even with our close genetic relatives--*terrestrial* primates. Where regardless of the culture or upbringing, we express happiness or amusement facially by smiling, inadvertently showing our teeth... yet chimpanzees do not see a smile with exposed teeth as happiness and instead see it as an act of dominance and aggression, sometimes causing them to attack unsuspecting humans. Imagine how many ways we could screw that up with an alien physiology and culture? Think "Mars Attacks!" when someone in the crowd releases a white dove  because "they come in peace!" and when the the Martians see it, they freak out, kill the dove and everyone there.</p><p>

So the answer is:</p><ul>
<li>We greet them SLOWLY. Quietly. We *DO NOT* rush up to them to greet them.</li><li>We walk very calmly and slowly--with great effort made to ensure they do not approach the aliens at a faster pace than they approach them.</li><li>A conscious effort being made not to make any gestures, excess noise (because no, talking LOUDLY and SLOWLY at them is probably just as insulting as it is when you do it to humans speakers of foreign languages.) </li><li>Probably hold off on "presenting" them with any "gifts" as it's just another opportunity to unknowingly send an unintended message.</li><li>Preferably the people who are the ones that go to meet them are *not* politicians or anyone who cares more about being known in history as "the one who made first contact" than they do about actually *making* first contact.</li></ul><p>

The team would probably a small group of four or five... and for the composition of the group, I'd have to say that Michael Crichton actually addresses this very same question in "Sphere" (the movie was crap; the novel is amazing) and he actually devotes quite a bit of pages to the reasoning behind the why. (I'd highly recommend the novel, actually, for it's relation to this question to those very interested in the idea)
</p><p>
Basically, the "Alien First Contact Team" is made up of:</p><ol>
<li>A biologist or possibly an anatomical doctor or scientist for any possible insight on the alien's physiology</li><li>Some type of psychologist who has done a great deal of research on recognizing and understanding body language... this person would likely be the first to notice the more subtle behaviors of the alien's as well as their reactions during interactions.</li><li>Maybe a sociologist or some other individual knowledgeable on social and cultural interactions (for the same reason as the psychologist)</li><li>A Mathematician because, well, they DO say that math is the universal language, and I would imagine it would most likely be the stepping stone--and be out first</li></ol></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a very serious subset of the question " How to we greet them ?
" is " How do we greet them without unknowingly making a cosmic etiquette faux-pas and either triggering a war or having them quickly heading back in the direction they came , appalled by our " uncivilized " or " rude " manners ?
" We probably want want to avoid large crowds of civilians , even * if * hypothetically they were all benevolent , accepting , and welcoming towards the extraterrestrials and there were no psychos among them .
Any intergalactic travelers would almost no doubt be apprehensive ( assuming they have emotions like ours : P ) as they land on an alien planet... so when they open their ship 's door and step on to our planet for the first time , it would probably not put them at ease if it were anything resembling the red carpet outside a Hollywood award show as celebrities exit their limo and try to make it inside .
It would probably be best to avoid attempting any types of " universal " ( by our standards ) hand gestures , like an open palm-arm raised upward " hi " gesture or ( unless they are humanoid and have pointed ears ) the Vulcan salute .
In all probability they have a completely different physiology than ours and have no way of knowing whether or they see it as " welcoming " or are doing the equivalent of an alien " grab my crotch and spit on your shoes .
" We have this problem even with our close genetic relatives-- * terrestrial * primates .
Where regardless of the culture or upbringing , we express happiness or amusement facially by smiling , inadvertently showing our teeth... yet chimpanzees do not see a smile with exposed teeth as happiness and instead see it as an act of dominance and aggression , sometimes causing them to attack unsuspecting humans .
Imagine how many ways we could screw that up with an alien physiology and culture ?
Think " Mars Attacks !
" when someone in the crowd releases a white dove because " they come in peace !
" and when the the Martians see it , they freak out , kill the dove and everyone there .
So the answer is : We greet them SLOWLY .
Quietly. We * DO NOT * rush up to them to greet them.We walk very calmly and slowly--with great effort made to ensure they do not approach the aliens at a faster pace than they approach them.A conscious effort being made not to make any gestures , excess noise ( because no , talking LOUDLY and SLOWLY at them is probably just as insulting as it is when you do it to humans speakers of foreign languages .
) Probably hold off on " presenting " them with any " gifts " as it 's just another opportunity to unknowingly send an unintended message.Preferably the people who are the ones that go to meet them are * not * politicians or anyone who cares more about being known in history as " the one who made first contact " than they do about actually * making * first contact .
The team would probably a small group of four or five... and for the composition of the group , I 'd have to say that Michael Crichton actually addresses this very same question in " Sphere " ( the movie was crap ; the novel is amazing ) and he actually devotes quite a bit of pages to the reasoning behind the why .
( I 'd highly recommend the novel , actually , for it 's relation to this question to those very interested in the idea ) Basically , the " Alien First Contact Team " is made up of : A biologist or possibly an anatomical doctor or scientist for any possible insight on the alien 's physiologySome type of psychologist who has done a great deal of research on recognizing and understanding body language... this person would likely be the first to notice the more subtle behaviors of the alien 's as well as their reactions during interactions.Maybe a sociologist or some other individual knowledgeable on social and cultural interactions ( for the same reason as the psychologist ) A Mathematician because , well , they DO say that math is the universal language , and I would imagine it would most likely be the stepping stone--and be out first</tokentext>
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I think a very serious subset of the question "How to we greet them?
" is "How do we greet them without unknowingly making a cosmic etiquette faux-pas and either triggering a war or having them quickly heading back in the direction they came, appalled by our "uncivilized" or "rude" manners?
"

We probably want want to avoid large crowds of civilians, even *if* hypothetically they were all benevolent, accepting, and welcoming towards the extraterrestrials and there were no psychos among them.
Any intergalactic travelers would almost no doubt be apprehensive (assuming they have emotions like ours :P) as they land on an alien planet... so when they open their ship's door and step on to our planet for the first time, it would probably not put them at ease if it were anything resembling the red carpet outside a Hollywood award show as celebrities exit their limo and try to make it inside.
It would probably be best to avoid attempting any types of "universal" (by our standards) hand gestures, like an open palm-arm raised upward "hi" gesture or (unless they are humanoid and have pointed ears) the Vulcan salute.
In all probability they have a completely different physiology than ours and have no way of knowing whether or they see it as "welcoming" or are doing the equivalent of an alien "grab my crotch and spit on your shoes.
" We have this problem even with our close genetic relatives--*terrestrial* primates.
Where regardless of the culture or upbringing, we express happiness or amusement facially by smiling, inadvertently showing our teeth... yet chimpanzees do not see a smile with exposed teeth as happiness and instead see it as an act of dominance and aggression, sometimes causing them to attack unsuspecting humans.
Imagine how many ways we could screw that up with an alien physiology and culture?
Think "Mars Attacks!
" when someone in the crowd releases a white dove  because "they come in peace!
" and when the the Martians see it, they freak out, kill the dove and everyone there.
So the answer is:
We greet them SLOWLY.
Quietly. We *DO NOT* rush up to them to greet them.We walk very calmly and slowly--with great effort made to ensure they do not approach the aliens at a faster pace than they approach them.A conscious effort being made not to make any gestures, excess noise (because no, talking LOUDLY and SLOWLY at them is probably just as insulting as it is when you do it to humans speakers of foreign languages.
) Probably hold off on "presenting" them with any "gifts" as it's just another opportunity to unknowingly send an unintended message.Preferably the people who are the ones that go to meet them are *not* politicians or anyone who cares more about being known in history as "the one who made first contact" than they do about actually *making* first contact.
The team would probably a small group of four or five... and for the composition of the group, I'd have to say that Michael Crichton actually addresses this very same question in "Sphere" (the movie was crap; the novel is amazing) and he actually devotes quite a bit of pages to the reasoning behind the why.
(I'd highly recommend the novel, actually, for it's relation to this question to those very interested in the idea)

Basically, the "Alien First Contact Team" is made up of:
A biologist or possibly an anatomical doctor or scientist for any possible insight on the alien's physiologySome type of psychologist who has done a great deal of research on recognizing and understanding body language... this person would likely be the first to notice the more subtle behaviors of the alien's as well as their reactions during interactions.Maybe a sociologist or some other individual knowledgeable on social and cultural interactions (for the same reason as the psychologist)A Mathematician because, well, they DO say that math is the universal language, and I would imagine it would most likely be the stepping stone--and be out first</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242281</id>
	<title>First Contact says say, "Thanks."  Duh.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Haven't these SETI scienticians seen First Contact?</p><p>When the aliens arrive and say, "Live long and prosper," you say, "Thanks."</p><p>Geeze, why do we go to the trouble of showing people the future when they're just going to ignore it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have n't these SETI scienticians seen First Contact ? When the aliens arrive and say , " Live long and prosper , " you say , " Thanks .
" Geeze , why do we go to the trouble of showing people the future when they 're just going to ignore it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haven't these SETI scienticians seen First Contact?When the aliens arrive and say, "Live long and prosper," you say, "Thanks.
"Geeze, why do we go to the trouble of showing people the future when they're just going to ignore it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243045</id>
	<title>Without a doubt...</title>
	<author>M-RES</author>
	<datestamp>1244403960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Yo Momma!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Yo Momma !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Yo Momma!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244169</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>iris-n</author>
	<datestamp>1244370120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that.</p></div><p>Try to live in a desert without water and tell me that resources aren't important.</p><p>And ALL CAPS ARE BAD MANNERS! The &lt;em&gt; tag exists for a reason.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that.Try to live in a desert without water and tell me that resources are n't important.And ALL CAPS ARE BAD MANNERS !
The tag exists for a reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that.Try to live in a desert without water and tell me that resources aren't important.And ALL CAPS ARE BAD MANNERS!
The  tag exists for a reason.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243095</id>
	<title>Maybe a) read some *real* SF, or try dolphins?</title>
	<author>whitroth</author>
	<datestamp>1244404320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a) We can't even talk to dolphins, though they've got some of our words. How about practicing on other intelligent Earthly species?</p><p>b) maybe y'all should turn off the movies, and tv shows, and actually *READ* some real SF (as opposed to sci-fi (pronounced skiffy, rhyming with the peanut butter, and which thinks Godzilla movies are sf....)</p><p>There are decades of short stories and novels whose theme is first contact. I remember one from the fifties, where one of our starships meets an alien ship. The ending of the story is both groups take out *ALL* navigation equipment and info, and trade ships.</p><p>Then there's a more significant issue: in a galaxy that's what, about 10G years old, and we're from a planet that's had life for over 3G years, *and* we've only had real technology based on science for barely 400 years, what are the odds that we'll meet an technologically-inclined alien race that's withing 200 or 300 years of *our* technology? I suggest the odds are vast that they're either far beyond us - on the order of a nuclear aircraft carrier to a merchant ship of the 1400's, , or far behind (if they're not up to Roman Empire standards, or, say, Turtledove's "The Path Not Taken"), they're more likely hunter-gatherers.</p><p>Start thinking of what a Prime Directive *should* be (and remember Buckminster Fuller's aphorism, "we are as gods, and we might as well get good at it"), or how to convince them that we're worth a) paying attention to, and b) that they shouldn't treat us like fire ants.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; mark</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a ) We ca n't even talk to dolphins , though they 've got some of our words .
How about practicing on other intelligent Earthly species ? b ) maybe y'all should turn off the movies , and tv shows , and actually * READ * some real SF ( as opposed to sci-fi ( pronounced skiffy , rhyming with the peanut butter , and which thinks Godzilla movies are sf.... ) There are decades of short stories and novels whose theme is first contact .
I remember one from the fifties , where one of our starships meets an alien ship .
The ending of the story is both groups take out * ALL * navigation equipment and info , and trade ships.Then there 's a more significant issue : in a galaxy that 's what , about 10G years old , and we 're from a planet that 's had life for over 3G years , * and * we 've only had real technology based on science for barely 400 years , what are the odds that we 'll meet an technologically-inclined alien race that 's withing 200 or 300 years of * our * technology ?
I suggest the odds are vast that they 're either far beyond us - on the order of a nuclear aircraft carrier to a merchant ship of the 1400 's , , or far behind ( if they 're not up to Roman Empire standards , or , say , Turtledove 's " The Path Not Taken " ) , they 're more likely hunter-gatherers.Start thinking of what a Prime Directive * should * be ( and remember Buckminster Fuller 's aphorism , " we are as gods , and we might as well get good at it " ) , or how to convince them that we 're worth a ) paying attention to , and b ) that they should n't treat us like fire ants .
          mark</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a) We can't even talk to dolphins, though they've got some of our words.
How about practicing on other intelligent Earthly species?b) maybe y'all should turn off the movies, and tv shows, and actually *READ* some real SF (as opposed to sci-fi (pronounced skiffy, rhyming with the peanut butter, and which thinks Godzilla movies are sf....)There are decades of short stories and novels whose theme is first contact.
I remember one from the fifties, where one of our starships meets an alien ship.
The ending of the story is both groups take out *ALL* navigation equipment and info, and trade ships.Then there's a more significant issue: in a galaxy that's what, about 10G years old, and we're from a planet that's had life for over 3G years, *and* we've only had real technology based on science for barely 400 years, what are the odds that we'll meet an technologically-inclined alien race that's withing 200 or 300 years of *our* technology?
I suggest the odds are vast that they're either far beyond us - on the order of a nuclear aircraft carrier to a merchant ship of the 1400's, , or far behind (if they're not up to Roman Empire standards, or, say, Turtledove's "The Path Not Taken"), they're more likely hunter-gatherers.Start thinking of what a Prime Directive *should* be (and remember Buckminster Fuller's aphorism, "we are as gods, and we might as well get good at it"), or how to convince them that we're worth a) paying attention to, and b) that they shouldn't treat us like fire ants.
          mark</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242789</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>harry666t</author>
	<datestamp>1244401860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Some time ago I read a book written by someone claiming to be an alien. He sounded quite credible, who knows. I think he could've been an alien. Anyway...<br><br>So, if his claims were to be true, there are a lot of aliens who speak many human languages fluently, study our culture, and even occassionally make a contact with humans they know and trust. They watch our TV, read our books, browse our internet, listen to our music (I wonder what'd RIAA say). I think that when (if) I'd ever meet an alien, I'd just say "hi" and have a normal conversation.<br><br>As of the risk of an attack, the guy claimed that there are races in our galaxy that'd love to see 6 bilions of humans dead, and that the only reason why we haven't been invaded yet is because a few more friendly races are somehow protecting us.<br><br>Also, yes, we're way more likely going to get wiped off Earth rather than enslaved or whatever. Slaves are expensive, lazy, ineffective and rebellious. I can't imagine a civilization capable of interstellar warfare that wouldn't be able to assemble a damn robotic worker.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Some time ago I read a book written by someone claiming to be an alien .
He sounded quite credible , who knows .
I think he could 've been an alien .
Anyway...So , if his claims were to be true , there are a lot of aliens who speak many human languages fluently , study our culture , and even occassionally make a contact with humans they know and trust .
They watch our TV , read our books , browse our internet , listen to our music ( I wonder what 'd RIAA say ) .
I think that when ( if ) I 'd ever meet an alien , I 'd just say " hi " and have a normal conversation.As of the risk of an attack , the guy claimed that there are races in our galaxy that 'd love to see 6 bilions of humans dead , and that the only reason why we have n't been invaded yet is because a few more friendly races are somehow protecting us.Also , yes , we 're way more likely going to get wiped off Earth rather than enslaved or whatever .
Slaves are expensive , lazy , ineffective and rebellious .
I ca n't imagine a civilization capable of interstellar warfare that would n't be able to assemble a damn robotic worker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some time ago I read a book written by someone claiming to be an alien.
He sounded quite credible, who knows.
I think he could've been an alien.
Anyway...So, if his claims were to be true, there are a lot of aliens who speak many human languages fluently, study our culture, and even occassionally make a contact with humans they know and trust.
They watch our TV, read our books, browse our internet, listen to our music (I wonder what'd RIAA say).
I think that when (if) I'd ever meet an alien, I'd just say "hi" and have a normal conversation.As of the risk of an attack, the guy claimed that there are races in our galaxy that'd love to see 6 bilions of humans dead, and that the only reason why we haven't been invaded yet is because a few more friendly races are somehow protecting us.Also, yes, we're way more likely going to get wiped off Earth rather than enslaved or whatever.
Slaves are expensive, lazy, ineffective and rebellious.
I can't imagine a civilization capable of interstellar warfare that wouldn't be able to assemble a damn robotic worker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242051</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28251013</id>
	<title>Take a cue from the English</title>
	<author>RogueWarrior65</author>
	<datestamp>1244476020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Okay so I watched the first episode of "How do you solve a problem like Maria?"...cute teen girls, folks.  And at the end, Andrew Lloyd Webber himself calls up a couple of the girls that didn't make the first cut. All but one of them was very reserved and ultra polite.  I thought that if that happened in America there would be so much bleeping in the audio and dog-level pitched screaming.  So, if you meet an alien, take a cue from the Brits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay so I watched the first episode of " How do you solve a problem like Maria ?
" ...cute teen girls , folks .
And at the end , Andrew Lloyd Webber himself calls up a couple of the girls that did n't make the first cut .
All but one of them was very reserved and ultra polite .
I thought that if that happened in America there would be so much bleeping in the audio and dog-level pitched screaming .
So , if you meet an alien , take a cue from the Brits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay so I watched the first episode of "How do you solve a problem like Maria?
"...cute teen girls, folks.
And at the end, Andrew Lloyd Webber himself calls up a couple of the girls that didn't make the first cut.
All but one of them was very reserved and ultra polite.
I thought that if that happened in America there would be so much bleeping in the audio and dog-level pitched screaming.
So, if you meet an alien, take a cue from the Brits.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242397</id>
	<title>Re:A notice of lawsuit.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, this is quite an interesting subject. Copyright or patent rights do not work between interstellar civilisations.</p><p>Can you already see humans hirings aliens to bootleg Disney products...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , this is quite an interesting subject .
Copyright or patent rights do not work between interstellar civilisations.Can you already see humans hirings aliens to bootleg Disney products.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, this is quite an interesting subject.
Copyright or patent rights do not work between interstellar civilisations.Can you already see humans hirings aliens to bootleg Disney products...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241787</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243409</id>
	<title>new age phone home</title>
	<author>Nocturnal Deviant</author>
	<datestamp>1244406540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i say give him a cell phone tell him to phone home and watch the hilarity ensue as he tried to get the area code. kinda reminds me of the first time i tried calling europe..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i say give him a cell phone tell him to phone home and watch the hilarity ensue as he tried to get the area code .
kinda reminds me of the first time i tried calling europe. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i say give him a cell phone tell him to phone home and watch the hilarity ensue as he tried to get the area code.
kinda reminds me of the first time i tried calling europe..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241801</id>
	<title>TITS or GTFO!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244394900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>TITS or GTFO!</htmltext>
<tokenext>TITS or GTFO !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TITS or GTFO!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243133</id>
	<title>Really so Advanced?</title>
	<author>hax0r\_this</author>
	<datestamp>1244404560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I keep seeing people posting about how much more advanced than us a species would have to be to reach earth. I simply don't see why thats true. To my knowledge we have at least general knowledge of every major technology we would need to travel between stars, and thats with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA\_budget" title="wikipedia.org">NASA never having had a budget over about $34B 2007 dollars, and currently closer to half of that</a> [wikipedia.org]. If we spent less time and money on killing each other and bailing each other out, and maybe cared about something other than our own social problems, there's no reason we couldn't have people on other planets as we speak.
<br> <br>
Consider this:<br>
For about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo\_program#Program\_costs\_and\_cancellation" title="wikipedia.org">$135B 2005 dollars</a> [wikipedia.org] we effectively went from flying propeller planes to repeatedly placing men on the moon.<br>
Since 2001 we have spent about <a href="http://costofwar.com/" title="costofwar.com">$865B</a> [costofwar.com] in Iraq and Afghanistan.<br>
Since Fall of 2008 we have committed about <b> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/02/04/business/20090205-bailout-totals-graphic.html" title="nytimes.com">$12.2 Trillion Dollars</a> [nytimes.com] </b> to "Economic Recovery" plans<br> <br> <br>
The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one, its a matter of money and willpower. The only hope I see is that private interests (including SpaceX and other companies) will pursue these technologies (considering that <a href="http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/18/global-09\_The-Global-2000\_Sales\_5.html" title="forbes.com">hundreds</a> [forbes.com] of companies have higher revenue than NASA) otherwise I'm afraid we may never get off this miserable rock before we kill ourselves off. You wouldn't bet the uptime of a moderately important website on a single webserver, yet we continue to bet the survival of our species on a single rock floating in space.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep seeing people posting about how much more advanced than us a species would have to be to reach earth .
I simply do n't see why thats true .
To my knowledge we have at least general knowledge of every major technology we would need to travel between stars , and thats with NASA never having had a budget over about $ 34B 2007 dollars , and currently closer to half of that [ wikipedia.org ] .
If we spent less time and money on killing each other and bailing each other out , and maybe cared about something other than our own social problems , there 's no reason we could n't have people on other planets as we speak .
Consider this : For about $ 135B 2005 dollars [ wikipedia.org ] we effectively went from flying propeller planes to repeatedly placing men on the moon .
Since 2001 we have spent about $ 865B [ costofwar.com ] in Iraq and Afghanistan .
Since Fall of 2008 we have committed about $ 12.2 Trillion Dollars [ nytimes.com ] to " Economic Recovery " plans The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one , its a matter of money and willpower .
The only hope I see is that private interests ( including SpaceX and other companies ) will pursue these technologies ( considering that hundreds [ forbes.com ] of companies have higher revenue than NASA ) otherwise I 'm afraid we may never get off this miserable rock before we kill ourselves off .
You would n't bet the uptime of a moderately important website on a single webserver , yet we continue to bet the survival of our species on a single rock floating in space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep seeing people posting about how much more advanced than us a species would have to be to reach earth.
I simply don't see why thats true.
To my knowledge we have at least general knowledge of every major technology we would need to travel between stars, and thats with NASA never having had a budget over about $34B 2007 dollars, and currently closer to half of that [wikipedia.org].
If we spent less time and money on killing each other and bailing each other out, and maybe cared about something other than our own social problems, there's no reason we couldn't have people on other planets as we speak.
Consider this:
For about $135B 2005 dollars [wikipedia.org] we effectively went from flying propeller planes to repeatedly placing men on the moon.
Since 2001 we have spent about $865B [costofwar.com] in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Since Fall of 2008 we have committed about  $12.2 Trillion Dollars [nytimes.com]  to "Economic Recovery" plans  
The barrier between us and the stars is not some insurmountable technology one, its a matter of money and willpower.
The only hope I see is that private interests (including SpaceX and other companies) will pursue these technologies (considering that hundreds [forbes.com] of companies have higher revenue than NASA) otherwise I'm afraid we may never get off this miserable rock before we kill ourselves off.
You wouldn't bet the uptime of a moderately important website on a single webserver, yet we continue to bet the survival of our species on a single rock floating in space.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242053</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28257415</id>
	<title>The E.T.'s are already here...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244458740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>See <a href="http://www.disclosureproject.org/" title="disclosureproject.org" rel="nofollow">The Disclosure Project</a> [disclosureproject.org] to start.
<br> <br>
The SETI program is crap, has always been crap, and is a waste of time/resources...much like this article.</htmltext>
<tokenext>See The Disclosure Project [ disclosureproject.org ] to start .
The SETI program is crap , has always been crap , and is a waste of time/resources...much like this article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>See The Disclosure Project [disclosureproject.org] to start.
The SETI program is crap, has always been crap, and is a waste of time/resources...much like this article.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28245039</id>
	<title>We should be more scared of "good intentions"</title>
	<author>voss</author>
	<datestamp>1244376240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Our best hope is that they come to our world for trade and tourism and other miscellaneous perversions.</p><p>Were capitalists we know how to deal with traders and tourists and pervs.</p><p>"What happens on earth...stays on earth".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Our best hope is that they come to our world for trade and tourism and other miscellaneous perversions.Were capitalists we know how to deal with traders and tourists and pervs .
" What happens on earth...stays on earth " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our best hope is that they come to our world for trade and tourism and other miscellaneous perversions.Were capitalists we know how to deal with traders and tourists and pervs.
"What happens on earth...stays on earth".</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28261565</id>
	<title>Whatever you do .... DO NOT greet them with ...</title>
	<author>freaker\_TuC</author>
	<datestamp>1244482560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To avoid any hostility, do not greet them with:</p><ul> <li>My sis ate your unkle last year!</li><li>Anal probe?</li><li>What just does Deep Inspection mean?</li><li>You guys look so like Sushi!</li><li>Wasn't your mom featured in Roswell magazine?</li><li>We got guns and we're not afraid to use them!</li><li>Nice aparatus, looking at his sex, while pointing to his brains...</li><li>I smoked your unkle last night!</li></ul></htmltext>
<tokenext>To avoid any hostility , do not greet them with : My sis ate your unkle last year ! Anal probe ? What just does Deep Inspection mean ? You guys look so like Sushi ! Was n't your mom featured in Roswell magazine ? We got guns and we 're not afraid to use them ! Nice aparatus , looking at his sex , while pointing to his brains...I smoked your unkle last night !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To avoid any hostility, do not greet them with: My sis ate your unkle last year!Anal probe?What just does Deep Inspection mean?You guys look so like Sushi!Wasn't your mom featured in Roswell magazine?We got guns and we're not afraid to use them!Nice aparatus, looking at his sex, while pointing to his brains...I smoked your unkle last night!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28262663</id>
	<title>Re:No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244538360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Oh, and go ahead and mod me down to "-1, Troll"; I'll understand because there is no "-1, Uncomfortable Truth" button to use.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Also known as reverse karma whoring, even more effective than normal karma whoring...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , and go ahead and mod me down to " -1 , Troll " ; I 'll understand because there is no " -1 , Uncomfortable Truth " button to use .
Also known as reverse karma whoring , even more effective than normal karma whoring.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and go ahead and mod me down to "-1, Troll"; I'll understand because there is no "-1, Uncomfortable Truth" button to use.
Also known as reverse karma whoring, even more effective than normal karma whoring...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242001</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28282359</id>
	<title>How about...</title>
	<author>thexile</author>
	<datestamp>1244659620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yo hommie!</p><p>OR</p><p>

FUCK YOU!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yo hommie ! OR FUCK YOU ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yo hommie!OR

FUCK YOU!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242051</id>
	<title>Re:Our guns vs. theirs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244396580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react.</p><p>It would be trivial. ET is not a signatory on any of our international laws and treaties. They could concoct a biological weapon that doesnt require any more advanced science than we already know.  They could bombard the planet with these weapons, kill only humans, and keep the planet for themselves. I think the hawks need to realize how delicate human life is and the weaponry to destroy all human life has been even in our hands for the last 50 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; If they wished to annihilate us , I wager they 'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react.It would be trivial .
ET is not a signatory on any of our international laws and treaties .
They could concoct a biological weapon that doesnt require any more advanced science than we already know .
They could bombard the planet with these weapons , kill only humans , and keep the planet for themselves .
I think the hawks need to realize how delicate human life is and the weaponry to destroy all human life has been even in our hands for the last 50 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;If they wished to annihilate us, I wager they'd be able to do it without even giving us a chance to react.It would be trivial.
ET is not a signatory on any of our international laws and treaties.
They could concoct a biological weapon that doesnt require any more advanced science than we already know.
They could bombard the planet with these weapons, kill only humans, and keep the planet for themselves.
I think the hawks need to realize how delicate human life is and the weaponry to destroy all human life has been even in our hands for the last 50 years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241757</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243757</id>
	<title>Klatu! Beratta nicto!</title>
	<author>rdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1244366580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Gort, can you open this jar for me...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Gort , can you open this jar for me.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gort, can you open this jar for me...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28257967</id>
	<title>Let them know upfront who's tasty</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244460840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like Ian Punnett's idea - let the aliens know who the "tasty" ones are.  He's constantly calling Canadians "Tasties" and our "Tasty friends to the North."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like Ian Punnett 's idea - let the aliens know who the " tasty " ones are .
He 's constantly calling Canadians " Tasties " and our " Tasty friends to the North .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like Ian Punnett's idea - let the aliens know who the "tasty" ones are.
He's constantly calling Canadians "Tasties" and our "Tasty friends to the North.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242131</id>
	<title>Hi</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244397120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you really from Texas?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you really from Texas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you really from Texas?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242001</id>
	<title>No pre-determined message</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1244396160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I propose a dynamic approach: learn as much as possible about them first. We may decide it would be disasterous to attempt contact, and that "playing dead" is the way to go. In any case we might discover that one approach will be better received than another; first impressions may make or break the situation.<br>All that being said, I don't think the human race is anywhere near the point where we SHOULD make contact with an extraterrestrial civilization AT ALL. We're still just slightly smarter animals at heart, once you strip away the thin veneer of technology and what we laughingly call "civilization". We can't even get along with OURSELVES and our own differences let alone a race that didn't evolve here. We're bigoted, racist, and sexist: We can't decide, AS A RACE, whether we owe our existence to one supernatural being or another, or did we evolve? We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that. We treat people differently, sometimes even ATTACKING them, because their skin is a different color. We treat our females as second-class citizens. Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in, poisoning it with our industrial wastes, destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed, or because it suits us to do so, and damn the consequences.<br>Never mind US contacting THEM! I say that if they're out there, they're AVOIDING and IGNORING us, because we're not worth knowing yet! Can't blame them if that's the case.<br>Oh, and go ahead and mod me down to "-1, Troll"; I'll understand because there is no "-1, Uncomfortable Truth" button to use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I propose a dynamic approach : learn as much as possible about them first .
We may decide it would be disasterous to attempt contact , and that " playing dead " is the way to go .
In any case we might discover that one approach will be better received than another ; first impressions may make or break the situation.All that being said , I do n't think the human race is anywhere near the point where we SHOULD make contact with an extraterrestrial civilization AT ALL .
We 're still just slightly smarter animals at heart , once you strip away the thin veneer of technology and what we laughingly call " civilization " .
We ca n't even get along with OURSELVES and our own differences let alone a race that did n't evolve here .
We 're bigoted , racist , and sexist : We ca n't decide , AS A RACE , whether we owe our existence to one supernatural being or another , or did we evolve ?
We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that .
We treat people differently , sometimes even ATTACKING them , because their skin is a different color .
We treat our females as second-class citizens .
Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in , poisoning it with our industrial wastes , destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed , or because it suits us to do so , and damn the consequences.Never mind US contacting THEM !
I say that if they 're out there , they 're AVOIDING and IGNORING us , because we 're not worth knowing yet !
Ca n't blame them if that 's the case.Oh , and go ahead and mod me down to " -1 , Troll " ; I 'll understand because there is no " -1 , Uncomfortable Truth " button to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I propose a dynamic approach: learn as much as possible about them first.
We may decide it would be disasterous to attempt contact, and that "playing dead" is the way to go.
In any case we might discover that one approach will be better received than another; first impressions may make or break the situation.All that being said, I don't think the human race is anywhere near the point where we SHOULD make contact with an extraterrestrial civilization AT ALL.
We're still just slightly smarter animals at heart, once you strip away the thin veneer of technology and what we laughingly call "civilization".
We can't even get along with OURSELVES and our own differences let alone a race that didn't evolve here.
We're bigoted, racist, and sexist: We can't decide, AS A RACE, whether we owe our existence to one supernatural being or another, or did we evolve?
We make war on our neighbors over resources and things that matter even less than that.
We treat people differently, sometimes even ATTACKING them, because their skin is a different color.
We treat our females as second-class citizens.
Furthermore we mistreat and mismanage the biosphere we live in, poisoning it with our industrial wastes, destroying parts of it out of ignorance or greed, or because it suits us to do so, and damn the consequences.Never mind US contacting THEM!
I say that if they're out there, they're AVOIDING and IGNORING us, because we're not worth knowing yet!
Can't blame them if that's the case.Oh, and go ahead and mod me down to "-1, Troll"; I'll understand because there is no "-1, Uncomfortable Truth" button to use.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242273</id>
	<title>Turing test</title>
	<author>uassholes</author>
	<datestamp>1244398080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is like the Turing test.  The original concept was to point out that if you can't distinguish between the responses of a human and a computer, than the computer was essentially human.
<p>
Touring was just making a point, but people have taken it too far and claim that if you can't distinguish, then the computer is intelligent.
</p><p>
So, imagine a space alien arriving in his UFO and failing the Turing test because not only does it not know what baseball is, but can't even understand human language; maybe doesn't even experience sight and sound, but experiences the world in it's own way.
</p><p>
You would fail it's Touring test.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is like the Turing test .
The original concept was to point out that if you ca n't distinguish between the responses of a human and a computer , than the computer was essentially human .
Touring was just making a point , but people have taken it too far and claim that if you ca n't distinguish , then the computer is intelligent .
So , imagine a space alien arriving in his UFO and failing the Turing test because not only does it not know what baseball is , but ca n't even understand human language ; maybe does n't even experience sight and sound , but experiences the world in it 's own way .
You would fail it 's Touring test .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is like the Turing test.
The original concept was to point out that if you can't distinguish between the responses of a human and a computer, than the computer was essentially human.
Touring was just making a point, but people have taken it too far and claim that if you can't distinguish, then the computer is intelligent.
So, imagine a space alien arriving in his UFO and failing the Turing test because not only does it not know what baseball is, but can't even understand human language; maybe doesn't even experience sight and sound, but experiences the world in it's own way.
You would fail it's Touring test.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244761</id>
	<title>Bah weep grah nah weep ninnybahn ...</title>
	<author>isolationism</author>
	<datestamp>1244374380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... Then offer them an Energon goody. Works (almost) every time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... Then offer them an Energon goody .
Works ( almost ) every time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... Then offer them an Energon goody.
Works (almost) every time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28262873</id>
	<title>Ooops - sorry about that...</title>
	<author>grantdh</author>
	<datestamp>1244540700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;What would you say first to an alien?</p><p>Gesundheit, perhaps?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; What would you say first to an alien ? Gesundheit , perhaps ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;What would you say first to an alien?Gesundheit, perhaps?
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28244683</id>
	<title>Cut them open</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1244373660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only after you have cut them open do you know what color their insides are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only after you have cut them open do you know what color their insides are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only after you have cut them open do you know what color their insides are.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28252587</id>
	<title>Re:Really so Advanced?</title>
	<author>bugs2squash</author>
	<datestamp>1244483520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suspect that NASA would not even have the budget it has today, or has been granted historically, if it were not for the possibility that we could use NASA technology to kill each other.</p><p>I don't think that there would have been so many prominent German rocket engineers in the 1940s if rockets were not such good weapons</p><p>Perhaps aliens developed spacecraft because killing each other was even more important in their society</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suspect that NASA would not even have the budget it has today , or has been granted historically , if it were not for the possibility that we could use NASA technology to kill each other.I do n't think that there would have been so many prominent German rocket engineers in the 1940s if rockets were not such good weaponsPerhaps aliens developed spacecraft because killing each other was even more important in their society</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suspect that NASA would not even have the budget it has today, or has been granted historically, if it were not for the possibility that we could use NASA technology to kill each other.I don't think that there would have been so many prominent German rocket engineers in the 1940s if rockets were not such good weaponsPerhaps aliens developed spacecraft because killing each other was even more important in their society</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28243133</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242337</id>
	<title>The Universal Greeting</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244398620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=959" title="transformersmovie.com" rel="nofollow">Bah Weep Graaagnah Wheep Ni Ni Bong</a> [transformersmovie.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bah Weep Graaagnah Wheep Ni Ni Bong [ transformersmovie.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bah Weep Graaagnah Wheep Ni Ni Bong [transformersmovie.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28242231</id>
	<title>Re:I know</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244397900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, and then the second thing to ask would be: can we have access to your patent database?</p><p>that would be a huge amount of prior art there<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , and then the second thing to ask would be : can we have access to your patent database ? that would be a huge amount of prior art there : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, and then the second thing to ask would be: can we have access to your patent database?that would be a huge amount of prior art there :-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_07_1517215.28241707</parent>
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