<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_06_01_1659209</id>
	<title>Making a Child Locating System</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1243879860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>celtic\_hackr writes <i>"Well, I never thought I'd be an advocate for placing GPS devices on people. However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done. By the school district's own admission it has a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses. Fortunately, my daughter was located, with no thanks to the local school district.  Therefore,  I would like input on a way to be able to keep track of my child. I know there are personal tracking devices out there. I have nothing against these systems. But I want more than this.  My specification are: 1) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter, 2) an application to pull up on any computer, a map with a dot indicating the real-time position of my child, 3) a handheld device with the equivalent information, 4) [optional] a secure web application/plug-in I can install on my own domain allowing me to track her from anyplace in the world, 5) a means of turning it all off, 6) a Linux based solution of the above.  I believe all the pieces for making such a system are out there. Has anyone built anything like this? Is there an open source solution? How would I go about building my own? Has anyone hacked any of these personal trackers before, to serve their own purposes? How does a tinfoil hat wearer engineer such a device to make sure Big-Brother isn't watching too? Can these devices be locked down so only certain devices can pick up the GPS location of an individual locator? What other recommendations do you have?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>celtic \ _hackr writes " Well , I never thought I 'd be an advocate for placing GPS devices on people .
However , since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter , I have decided that something needs to be done .
By the school district 's own admission it has a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses .
Fortunately , my daughter was located , with no thanks to the local school district .
Therefore , I would like input on a way to be able to keep track of my child .
I know there are personal tracking devices out there .
I have nothing against these systems .
But I want more than this .
My specification are : 1 ) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter , 2 ) an application to pull up on any computer , a map with a dot indicating the real-time position of my child , 3 ) a handheld device with the equivalent information , 4 ) [ optional ] a secure web application/plug-in I can install on my own domain allowing me to track her from anyplace in the world , 5 ) a means of turning it all off , 6 ) a Linux based solution of the above .
I believe all the pieces for making such a system are out there .
Has anyone built anything like this ?
Is there an open source solution ?
How would I go about building my own ?
Has anyone hacked any of these personal trackers before , to serve their own purposes ?
How does a tinfoil hat wearer engineer such a device to make sure Big-Brother is n't watching too ?
Can these devices be locked down so only certain devices can pick up the GPS location of an individual locator ?
What other recommendations do you have ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>celtic\_hackr writes "Well, I never thought I'd be an advocate for placing GPS devices on people.
However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done.
By the school district's own admission it has a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses.
Fortunately, my daughter was located, with no thanks to the local school district.
Therefore,  I would like input on a way to be able to keep track of my child.
I know there are personal tracking devices out there.
I have nothing against these systems.
But I want more than this.
My specification are: 1) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter, 2) an application to pull up on any computer, a map with a dot indicating the real-time position of my child, 3) a handheld device with the equivalent information, 4) [optional] a secure web application/plug-in I can install on my own domain allowing me to track her from anyplace in the world, 5) a means of turning it all off, 6) a Linux based solution of the above.
I believe all the pieces for making such a system are out there.
Has anyone built anything like this?
Is there an open source solution?
How would I go about building my own?
Has anyone hacked any of these personal trackers before, to serve their own purposes?
How does a tinfoil hat wearer engineer such a device to make sure Big-Brother isn't watching too?
Can these devices be locked down so only certain devices can pick up the GPS location of an individual locator?
What other recommendations do you have?
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170869</id>
	<title>Whoa..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your attitude is extremely unhealthy for your child, honestly.</p><p>However, most of the major carriers have child oriented cell phones that can be located in an emergency. Most of them will also allow the child to call you or 911, and be restricted otherwise. Real time monitoring is going to be pricey, however, and somewhat psychotic.</p><p>Not to mention, you would need to put a live transmitter on your kid.. Personally, I don't want to expose my child to 24/7 RF.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your attitude is extremely unhealthy for your child , honestly.However , most of the major carriers have child oriented cell phones that can be located in an emergency .
Most of them will also allow the child to call you or 911 , and be restricted otherwise .
Real time monitoring is going to be pricey , however , and somewhat psychotic.Not to mention , you would need to put a live transmitter on your kid.. Personally , I do n't want to expose my child to 24/7 RF .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your attitude is extremely unhealthy for your child, honestly.However, most of the major carriers have child oriented cell phones that can be located in an emergency.
Most of them will also allow the child to call you or 911, and be restricted otherwise.
Real time monitoring is going to be pricey, however, and somewhat psychotic.Not to mention, you would need to put a live transmitter on your kid.. Personally, I don't want to expose my child to 24/7 RF.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28176021</id>
	<title>Re:GPS + SMS.</title>
	<author>z0idberg</author>
	<datestamp>1243862400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you can get a cheap Chinese clone then it doesnt really matter if you lose the original does it? Just make sure you backup regularly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can get a cheap Chinese clone then it doesnt really matter if you lose the original does it ?
Just make sure you backup regularly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can get a cheap Chinese clone then it doesnt really matter if you lose the original does it?
Just make sure you backup regularly.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170861</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28180743</id>
	<title>Public schooling is incompetent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243950960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They had to pander to every dummy because they insist we're all equal.</p><p>The result is that the school district caters to dummies and alienates smart people.</p><p>If you value competence, you need to hear these two words loudly and clearly: PRIVATE SCHOOL.</p><p>Third worldish USA cannot educate your child well in its public school system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They had to pander to every dummy because they insist we 're all equal.The result is that the school district caters to dummies and alienates smart people.If you value competence , you need to hear these two words loudly and clearly : PRIVATE SCHOOL.Third worldish USA can not educate your child well in its public school system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They had to pander to every dummy because they insist we're all equal.The result is that the school district caters to dummies and alienates smart people.If you value competence, you need to hear these two words loudly and clearly: PRIVATE SCHOOL.Third worldish USA cannot educate your child well in its public school system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177345</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong Solution</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1243873740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get their attention. Sue the school or district for child endangerment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get their attention .
Sue the school or district for child endangerment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get their attention.
Sue the school or district for child endangerment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170899</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174013</id>
	<title>Open Source Solution</title>
	<author>EW87</author>
	<datestamp>1243851960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a revolutionary idea. It's an open source solution I found. It's called "go to the school and pick up your goddamn child"</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a revolutionary idea .
It 's an open source solution I found .
It 's called " go to the school and pick up your goddamn child "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a revolutionary idea.
It's an open source solution I found.
It's called "go to the school and pick up your goddamn child"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174331</id>
	<title>Re:Easiest solution is to go with Lojack</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1243853160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depending on her age, that might be quite entertaining.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depending on her age , that might be quite entertaining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depending on her age, that might be quite entertaining.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170797</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174613</id>
	<title>I want my kids in your school!</title>
	<author>RJFerret</author>
	<datestamp>1243854420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really, a school that handles children on the wrong bus regularly is MUCH better than one who doesn't have systems in place for dealing with an unpreventable (if rare) occurrence.</p><p>I want my kid to learn what to do when things don't go right.</p><p>Since everyone has already provided the various "child locator" links that are easily Googled, here's my high tech AND trendy alternative that will not result in a socially alienated child unit.</p><p>Start a Twitter account for your child, like the one of the cat with half a million followers, make it SO popular people will send out "Tweets" whenever they see your child.</p><p>Setup a search for @yourchild'sname</p><p>You then can receive SMS messages, RSS feed, emails, whatever, whenever your child is someplace new (since people who regularly see your kid won't care enough to bother to say so).</p><p>If you succeed well enough in this plan, your child will shortly be followed by a group of paparazzi photographing their every move!  If your child is a daughter, you'll even know when she "forgets" to wear her underwear.  You'll be able to share Youtube links with family and friends of your child "in action".  Conveniently, anyone who makes a website about her and tries to contact her you can direct to police, therefore outing any untoward behavior.</p><p>If you REALLY succeed well enough, the merchandising and socialite earnings will cover their college costs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really , a school that handles children on the wrong bus regularly is MUCH better than one who does n't have systems in place for dealing with an unpreventable ( if rare ) occurrence.I want my kid to learn what to do when things do n't go right.Since everyone has already provided the various " child locator " links that are easily Googled , here 's my high tech AND trendy alternative that will not result in a socially alienated child unit.Start a Twitter account for your child , like the one of the cat with half a million followers , make it SO popular people will send out " Tweets " whenever they see your child.Setup a search for @ yourchild'snameYou then can receive SMS messages , RSS feed , emails , whatever , whenever your child is someplace new ( since people who regularly see your kid wo n't care enough to bother to say so ) .If you succeed well enough in this plan , your child will shortly be followed by a group of paparazzi photographing their every move !
If your child is a daughter , you 'll even know when she " forgets " to wear her underwear .
You 'll be able to share Youtube links with family and friends of your child " in action " .
Conveniently , anyone who makes a website about her and tries to contact her you can direct to police , therefore outing any untoward behavior.If you REALLY succeed well enough , the merchandising and socialite earnings will cover their college costs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really, a school that handles children on the wrong bus regularly is MUCH better than one who doesn't have systems in place for dealing with an unpreventable (if rare) occurrence.I want my kid to learn what to do when things don't go right.Since everyone has already provided the various "child locator" links that are easily Googled, here's my high tech AND trendy alternative that will not result in a socially alienated child unit.Start a Twitter account for your child, like the one of the cat with half a million followers, make it SO popular people will send out "Tweets" whenever they see your child.Setup a search for @yourchild'snameYou then can receive SMS messages, RSS feed, emails, whatever, whenever your child is someplace new (since people who regularly see your kid won't care enough to bother to say so).If you succeed well enough in this plan, your child will shortly be followed by a group of paparazzi photographing their every move!
If your child is a daughter, you'll even know when she "forgets" to wear her underwear.
You'll be able to share Youtube links with family and friends of your child "in action".
Conveniently, anyone who makes a website about her and tries to contact her you can direct to police, therefore outing any untoward behavior.If you REALLY succeed well enough, the merchandising and socialite earnings will cover their college costs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172319</id>
	<title>Overprotection vs. Independence</title>
	<author>krinderlin</author>
	<datestamp>1243889040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stranger danger is vastly overrated.  Bad things happen, yes.  However, raising and indoctrinating our children with an attitude of fear and "playing it safe" spills over from walking home from school to applying to a highly competitive university.</p><p>The things you teach now will be applied to every facet of her life.  Rather than to teach her to be afraid, you should teach her to balance risk with reward, to keep a cool head in unexpected situations, and to feel confident in herself because you trust her to do the right thing.</p><p>Actions like this perpetuate a sense that she is always incompetent until proven otherwise.  You should teach her that she should know her own boundaries and trust her to be capable until she displays otherwise.</p><p>My own parents took this approach.  Though, I will say that it did backfire a little.  I was independent and living on my own at 17 as an emancipated minor.  They were really against it at the time, but they trusted me to make that decision.  I fell on my face a lot, but here I am, 25, done with my first bachelor's, excellent prospects for going directly into my Ph.D., and financially independent.  I'm one of the most stubborn, self-motivated person I know.  Most of the other people I know from my circle are in the 21-25 range, live with their parents, and can't even cobble together two jobs and move out.  Not to mention I can easily bully them into doing about whatever I want them to do.</p><p>In summary: Raising a successful, independent child who thinks for herself is nerve racking and likely to result in a child that will do what they want how they want to do it.  On the other hand, they'll never lie down and let someone else walk all over them, and you'll be able to brag to everyone that your kid's an astronaut/professor at MIT/etc.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stranger danger is vastly overrated .
Bad things happen , yes .
However , raising and indoctrinating our children with an attitude of fear and " playing it safe " spills over from walking home from school to applying to a highly competitive university.The things you teach now will be applied to every facet of her life .
Rather than to teach her to be afraid , you should teach her to balance risk with reward , to keep a cool head in unexpected situations , and to feel confident in herself because you trust her to do the right thing.Actions like this perpetuate a sense that she is always incompetent until proven otherwise .
You should teach her that she should know her own boundaries and trust her to be capable until she displays otherwise.My own parents took this approach .
Though , I will say that it did backfire a little .
I was independent and living on my own at 17 as an emancipated minor .
They were really against it at the time , but they trusted me to make that decision .
I fell on my face a lot , but here I am , 25 , done with my first bachelor 's , excellent prospects for going directly into my Ph.D. , and financially independent .
I 'm one of the most stubborn , self-motivated person I know .
Most of the other people I know from my circle are in the 21-25 range , live with their parents , and ca n't even cobble together two jobs and move out .
Not to mention I can easily bully them into doing about whatever I want them to do.In summary : Raising a successful , independent child who thinks for herself is nerve racking and likely to result in a child that will do what they want how they want to do it .
On the other hand , they 'll never lie down and let someone else walk all over them , and you 'll be able to brag to everyone that your kid 's an astronaut/professor at MIT/etc .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stranger danger is vastly overrated.
Bad things happen, yes.
However, raising and indoctrinating our children with an attitude of fear and "playing it safe" spills over from walking home from school to applying to a highly competitive university.The things you teach now will be applied to every facet of her life.
Rather than to teach her to be afraid, you should teach her to balance risk with reward, to keep a cool head in unexpected situations, and to feel confident in herself because you trust her to do the right thing.Actions like this perpetuate a sense that she is always incompetent until proven otherwise.
You should teach her that she should know her own boundaries and trust her to be capable until she displays otherwise.My own parents took this approach.
Though, I will say that it did backfire a little.
I was independent and living on my own at 17 as an emancipated minor.
They were really against it at the time, but they trusted me to make that decision.
I fell on my face a lot, but here I am, 25, done with my first bachelor's, excellent prospects for going directly into my Ph.D., and financially independent.
I'm one of the most stubborn, self-motivated person I know.
Most of the other people I know from my circle are in the 21-25 range, live with their parents, and can't even cobble together two jobs and move out.
Not to mention I can easily bully them into doing about whatever I want them to do.In summary: Raising a successful, independent child who thinks for herself is nerve racking and likely to result in a child that will do what they want how they want to do it.
On the other hand, they'll never lie down and let someone else walk all over them, and you'll be able to brag to everyone that your kid's an astronaut/professor at MIT/etc.
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171571</id>
	<title>pretty typical</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Having kids get on the wrong bus is pretty typical for the first couple of weeks of school.  The teachers, staff and especially the kids are still figuring it all out.  Once a routine has been set in place, there shouldn't be too many more problems.</p><p>The best solution to this problem isn't hardware, it's wetware i.e. people.  The teachers and staff of an elementary school are your best resource.  The part you are missing, as mentioned many times previous in these comments is some teaching and direction from you for your daughter.  If you choose to use some technology in this endeavor, great, but just remember it's the people involved that will help you most and that includes your daughter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Having kids get on the wrong bus is pretty typical for the first couple of weeks of school .
The teachers , staff and especially the kids are still figuring it all out .
Once a routine has been set in place , there should n't be too many more problems.The best solution to this problem is n't hardware , it 's wetware i.e .
people. The teachers and staff of an elementary school are your best resource .
The part you are missing , as mentioned many times previous in these comments is some teaching and direction from you for your daughter .
If you choose to use some technology in this endeavor , great , but just remember it 's the people involved that will help you most and that includes your daughter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having kids get on the wrong bus is pretty typical for the first couple of weeks of school.
The teachers, staff and especially the kids are still figuring it all out.
Once a routine has been set in place, there shouldn't be too many more problems.The best solution to this problem isn't hardware, it's wetware i.e.
people.  The teachers and staff of an elementary school are your best resource.
The part you are missing, as mentioned many times previous in these comments is some teaching and direction from you for your daughter.
If you choose to use some technology in this endeavor, great, but just remember it's the people involved that will help you most and that includes your daughter.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172563</id>
	<title>Re:For my dog</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1243889940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try a small rattle on the collar to simulate rattle snake. That noise scares the hell out of my cats fyi...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try a small rattle on the collar to simulate rattle snake .
That noise scares the hell out of my cats fyi.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try a small rattle on the collar to simulate rattle snake.
That noise scares the hell out of my cats fyi...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171451</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172657</id>
	<title>Calm down</title>
	<author>jstrazzere</author>
	<datestamp>1243847100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"What other recommendations do you have?"

I recommend you sit down, perhaps have a nice glass of wine, and think this through for a moment.

It's not that big of a deal.  Your child is fine, right?

Don't you think you are going just a little bit overboard here?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" What other recommendations do you have ?
" I recommend you sit down , perhaps have a nice glass of wine , and think this through for a moment .
It 's not that big of a deal .
Your child is fine , right ?
Do n't you think you are going just a little bit overboard here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"What other recommendations do you have?
"

I recommend you sit down, perhaps have a nice glass of wine, and think this through for a moment.
It's not that big of a deal.
Your child is fine, right?
Don't you think you are going just a little bit overboard here?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173605</id>
	<title>You're going about it wrong.</title>
	<author>CODiNE</author>
	<datestamp>1243850460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I see tons of comments saying it shouldn't be done because of Big Brother and it's future impact on society...</p><p>Guys... tracking people with GPS devices is like an atomic bomb, you can't just forget it and it'll go away. Millions of people have already thought of this, it's coming.  You can moan and whine all you want, in a few years they will be selling these at Walmart in a nice easy to use package.</p><p>So instead of going "I won't make it, that's just helping Big Brother", why don't you be real geeks and do it because it CAN be done?  Then being the alpha males in this area of technology you can clearly demonstrate the dangers of it simply and publicly BEFORE the tech is widespread.</p><p>I mean seriously... now your politics is getting in the way of your geek cred, time to turn in your cards.  I never heard "Don't make a potato cannon, the feds could use that tech someday".  We do a lot of stuff that's dangerous and stupid, don't let your distopian fears prevent you from getting a handle on real life social issues when you can have the most positive impact.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see tons of comments saying it should n't be done because of Big Brother and it 's future impact on society...Guys... tracking people with GPS devices is like an atomic bomb , you ca n't just forget it and it 'll go away .
Millions of people have already thought of this , it 's coming .
You can moan and whine all you want , in a few years they will be selling these at Walmart in a nice easy to use package.So instead of going " I wo n't make it , that 's just helping Big Brother " , why do n't you be real geeks and do it because it CAN be done ?
Then being the alpha males in this area of technology you can clearly demonstrate the dangers of it simply and publicly BEFORE the tech is widespread.I mean seriously... now your politics is getting in the way of your geek cred , time to turn in your cards .
I never heard " Do n't make a potato cannon , the feds could use that tech someday " .
We do a lot of stuff that 's dangerous and stupid , do n't let your distopian fears prevent you from getting a handle on real life social issues when you can have the most positive impact .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see tons of comments saying it shouldn't be done because of Big Brother and it's future impact on society...Guys... tracking people with GPS devices is like an atomic bomb, you can't just forget it and it'll go away.
Millions of people have already thought of this, it's coming.
You can moan and whine all you want, in a few years they will be selling these at Walmart in a nice easy to use package.So instead of going "I won't make it, that's just helping Big Brother", why don't you be real geeks and do it because it CAN be done?
Then being the alpha males in this area of technology you can clearly demonstrate the dangers of it simply and publicly BEFORE the tech is widespread.I mean seriously... now your politics is getting in the way of your geek cred, time to turn in your cards.
I never heard "Don't make a potato cannon, the feds could use that tech someday".
We do a lot of stuff that's dangerous and stupid, don't let your distopian fears prevent you from getting a handle on real life social issues when you can have the most positive impact.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171021</id>
	<title>Take her to the vet and get her chipped</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's cheap, quick, easy, and for $10/m, you can't beat it.</p><p>You can always carve the chip out yourself, and they'll provide free room and board for her at the pound if she ever gets lost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's cheap , quick , easy , and for $ 10/m , you ca n't beat it.You can always carve the chip out yourself , and they 'll provide free room and board for her at the pound if she ever gets lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's cheap, quick, easy, and for $10/m, you can't beat it.You can always carve the chip out yourself, and they'll provide free room and board for her at the pound if she ever gets lost.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170909</id>
	<title>It's amazing really</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1243884060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now. What a truly wonderful time to be alive, we now finally have the tools to live on past childhood.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really amazing how any of us , and humanity in general , ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety ' gear that is available now .
What a truly wonderful time to be alive , we now finally have the tools to live on past childhood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.
What a truly wonderful time to be alive, we now finally have the tools to live on past childhood.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171959</id>
	<title>Most people watch their children's activities and</title>
	<author>Rendus</author>
	<datestamp>1243887720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>movement with a new invention, Eyeballs. Use them. They're free, and meant for watching your crotchspawn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>movement with a new invention , Eyeballs .
Use them .
They 're free , and meant for watching your crotchspawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>movement with a new invention, Eyeballs.
Use them.
They're free, and meant for watching your crotchspawn.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28185147</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong Solution</title>
	<author>mattwarden</author>
	<datestamp>1243968840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; I just don't believe in this widespread approach of dealing only with the<br>&gt; symptoms of problems</p><p>Well, sure, when you put it that way it sounds bad. But in reality he is dealing with what he has control over. He has control over the symptom. Other people have control over the cause. I don't agree that he should forgo what he believes (even if I disagree) will keep his daughter safe in favor or relying on others to get their shit together and keep his daughter safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I just do n't believe in this widespread approach of dealing only with the &gt; symptoms of problemsWell , sure , when you put it that way it sounds bad .
But in reality he is dealing with what he has control over .
He has control over the symptom .
Other people have control over the cause .
I do n't agree that he should forgo what he believes ( even if I disagree ) will keep his daughter safe in favor or relying on others to get their shit together and keep his daughter safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; I just don't believe in this widespread approach of dealing only with the&gt; symptoms of problemsWell, sure, when you put it that way it sounds bad.
But in reality he is dealing with what he has control over.
He has control over the symptom.
Other people have control over the cause.
I don't agree that he should forgo what he believes (even if I disagree) will keep his daughter safe in favor or relying on others to get their shit together and keep his daughter safe.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170899</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170885</id>
	<title>Get a car-tracker</title>
	<author>cycler</author>
	<datestamp>1243884000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not sure about size and power though.</p><p>Anyways, a SMS to the phone will let it reply with it's position. Wouldn't be hard to get this into Google Maps or something similar.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/C</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure about size and power though.Anyways , a SMS to the phone will let it reply with it 's position .
Would n't be hard to get this into Google Maps or something similar .
/C</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure about size and power though.Anyways, a SMS to the phone will let it reply with it's position.
Wouldn't be hard to get this into Google Maps or something similar.
/C</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170829</id>
	<title>Zoomback...</title>
	<author>chris\_martin</author>
	<datestamp>1243883760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.zoombak.com/" title="zoombak.com">http://www.zoombak.com/</a> [zoombak.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.zoombak.com/ [ zoombak.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.zoombak.com/ [zoombak.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171623</id>
	<title>Paranoid</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1243886700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Just get the kid a cell phone, already.
</p><p>
There's a <a href="http://www.gpsmagazine.com/2008/05/the\_ultimate\_gps\_child\_trackin.php" title="gpsmagazine.com">market catering to paranoid parents</a> [gpsmagazine.com], but it's small.  Disney bailed out of cell phones in 2007. Whereify, with a GPS watch and tracking system, gave it up a few years ago.  (Whereify watches were for the really paranoid. They couldn't be removed without a signal from central control, and if the band was cut or the device damaged, alarms went off.)
</p><p>
The available devices all need charging or battery replacement.  That's one advantage of getting the kid a cell phone.  They'll keep it charged themselves.
</p><p>
As for the school, get them to put useful destination signs on their buses. Some schools get sloppy about that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just get the kid a cell phone , already .
There 's a market catering to paranoid parents [ gpsmagazine.com ] , but it 's small .
Disney bailed out of cell phones in 2007 .
Whereify , with a GPS watch and tracking system , gave it up a few years ago .
( Whereify watches were for the really paranoid .
They could n't be removed without a signal from central control , and if the band was cut or the device damaged , alarms went off .
) The available devices all need charging or battery replacement .
That 's one advantage of getting the kid a cell phone .
They 'll keep it charged themselves .
As for the school , get them to put useful destination signs on their buses .
Some schools get sloppy about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Just get the kid a cell phone, already.
There's a market catering to paranoid parents [gpsmagazine.com], but it's small.
Disney bailed out of cell phones in 2007.
Whereify, with a GPS watch and tracking system, gave it up a few years ago.
(Whereify watches were for the really paranoid.
They couldn't be removed without a signal from central control, and if the band was cut or the device damaged, alarms went off.
)

The available devices all need charging or battery replacement.
That's one advantage of getting the kid a cell phone.
They'll keep it charged themselves.
As for the school, get them to put useful destination signs on their buses.
Some schools get sloppy about that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172083</id>
	<title>Special Needs?</title>
	<author>tburke261</author>
	<datestamp>1243888140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I could see a solution like the OP describes being useful for parents with special-needs children. Often children with autism or similar conditions are sent to a regular school, but with different conditions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could see a solution like the OP describes being useful for parents with special-needs children .
Often children with autism or similar conditions are sent to a regular school , but with different conditions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could see a solution like the OP describes being useful for parents with special-needs children.
Often children with autism or similar conditions are sent to a regular school, but with different conditions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170917</id>
	<title>These are already commercially available.</title>
	<author>Jane Q. Public</author>
	<datestamp>1243884120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I suggest you spend some time on Google or eBay.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest you spend some time on Google or eBay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest you spend some time on Google or eBay.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28185089</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>mattwarden</author>
	<datestamp>1243968600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, collectivism at its finest. His solution involves convincing a vendor to take his money in exchange for a GPS (shouldn't be hard) and convincing the daughter not to take off the device (shouldn't be too hard). Your solution involves convincing an entire community, and you think that's the better one?</p><p>Part of individual freedom and responsibility is an acknowledgment that not everyone is going to have the same values as you and, in this case, not everyone is going to be as paranoid as you. First solve your problem; then do the raising awareness thing and see if it catches on to other people. If it does, then it was a global problem. If it doesn't, no harm done; your problem is solved and you didn't have to disrupt other people's values.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , collectivism at its finest .
His solution involves convincing a vendor to take his money in exchange for a GPS ( should n't be hard ) and convincing the daughter not to take off the device ( should n't be too hard ) .
Your solution involves convincing an entire community , and you think that 's the better one ? Part of individual freedom and responsibility is an acknowledgment that not everyone is going to have the same values as you and , in this case , not everyone is going to be as paranoid as you .
First solve your problem ; then do the raising awareness thing and see if it catches on to other people .
If it does , then it was a global problem .
If it does n't , no harm done ; your problem is solved and you did n't have to disrupt other people 's values .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, collectivism at its finest.
His solution involves convincing a vendor to take his money in exchange for a GPS (shouldn't be hard) and convincing the daughter not to take off the device (shouldn't be too hard).
Your solution involves convincing an entire community, and you think that's the better one?Part of individual freedom and responsibility is an acknowledgment that not everyone is going to have the same values as you and, in this case, not everyone is going to be as paranoid as you.
First solve your problem; then do the raising awareness thing and see if it catches on to other people.
If it does, then it was a global problem.
If it doesn't, no harm done; your problem is solved and you didn't have to disrupt other people's values.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171515</id>
	<title>YOU PEOPLE SUCK!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not only did you inadequetly answer the question but you added your own stupid (and very naive) comments that prove you either have no children or have never had that overwhelming sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach when your child doesn't get off the bus as expected. Be glad you live in your nice.... relatively safe places... because where I live kids are often stolen and ransomed back to their parents. Every member of my family is geo-tagged and tracked 24x7. Evil lives in your neighborhoods too... you just cant see past the disguise yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only did you inadequetly answer the question but you added your own stupid ( and very naive ) comments that prove you either have no children or have never had that overwhelming sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach when your child does n't get off the bus as expected .
Be glad you live in your nice.... relatively safe places... because where I live kids are often stolen and ransomed back to their parents .
Every member of my family is geo-tagged and tracked 24x7 .
Evil lives in your neighborhoods too... you just cant see past the disguise yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only did you inadequetly answer the question but you added your own stupid (and very naive) comments that prove you either have no children or have never had that overwhelming sinking feeling in the pit of your stomach when your child doesn't get off the bus as expected.
Be glad you live in your nice.... relatively safe places... because where I live kids are often stolen and ransomed back to their parents.
Every member of my family is geo-tagged and tracked 24x7.
Evil lives in your neighborhoods too... you just cant see past the disguise yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177131</id>
	<title>The biggest issue</title>
	<author>AnAdventurer</author>
	<datestamp>1243871700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I speak from experience. I am a member of the Special Police Search Team. All we do is search for missing people believed to not be involved in a crime. Mainly it's children (DMD) and other "high risk' individuals (brain injury's, etc), lot's of them have "tracking units" (like Project Life Saver) of some sort. AND EVERY TIME ONE DOES NOT WORK it's because someone forgot to change the batteries. We have meetings and meetings on the subject and do free battery checks to any of our PLSA (project life saver) clients. It's VERY SAD.... We lost a boy in a lake because his mother forgot to change the batteries in his (off the shelf tracker) tracker.
<p>
Like everything else it's up to the end user to make sure the system is working property. I like to toss a SPOT Messenger with tracking mode ON in my son's (who is 7) bag before he heads off to play with his friends.</p><p>
I am more then happy to answer questions on the subject, just contact me for more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I speak from experience .
I am a member of the Special Police Search Team .
All we do is search for missing people believed to not be involved in a crime .
Mainly it 's children ( DMD ) and other " high risk ' individuals ( brain injury 's , etc ) , lot 's of them have " tracking units " ( like Project Life Saver ) of some sort .
AND EVERY TIME ONE DOES NOT WORK it 's because someone forgot to change the batteries .
We have meetings and meetings on the subject and do free battery checks to any of our PLSA ( project life saver ) clients .
It 's VERY SAD.... We lost a boy in a lake because his mother forgot to change the batteries in his ( off the shelf tracker ) tracker .
Like everything else it 's up to the end user to make sure the system is working property .
I like to toss a SPOT Messenger with tracking mode ON in my son 's ( who is 7 ) bag before he heads off to play with his friends .
I am more then happy to answer questions on the subject , just contact me for more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I speak from experience.
I am a member of the Special Police Search Team.
All we do is search for missing people believed to not be involved in a crime.
Mainly it's children (DMD) and other "high risk' individuals (brain injury's, etc), lot's of them have "tracking units" (like Project Life Saver) of some sort.
AND EVERY TIME ONE DOES NOT WORK it's because someone forgot to change the batteries.
We have meetings and meetings on the subject and do free battery checks to any of our PLSA (project life saver) clients.
It's VERY SAD.... We lost a boy in a lake because his mother forgot to change the batteries in his (off the shelf tracker) tracker.
Like everything else it's up to the end user to make sure the system is working property.
I like to toss a SPOT Messenger with tracking mode ON in my son's (who is 7) bag before he heads off to play with his friends.
I am more then happy to answer questions on the subject, just contact me for more.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177977</id>
	<title>Re:Please don't think of the children.</title>
	<author>rye</author>
	<datestamp>1243880220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First it was tracking <i>consumers</i>. Look at the location histories that public transit agencies store (EZ-Pass, Metro Card, etc), not to mention credit card and cell companies that track and analyze consumer location info for the company's benefit. Money is the greatest motivator.</p><p>After these systems are set up, police realize that they can gain access and use them to track suspects or "terrorists." Once the capabilities are well-publicized, parents get interested and companies spew out spinoff consumer-friendly tracking tools... such as Verizon's Chaperone, which more average people buy... which LE will subsequently take advantage of...</p><p>Every new advance in location tracking technology is an exploitative cycle between the market forces, Big Brother and normal human attachments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First it was tracking consumers .
Look at the location histories that public transit agencies store ( EZ-Pass , Metro Card , etc ) , not to mention credit card and cell companies that track and analyze consumer location info for the company 's benefit .
Money is the greatest motivator.After these systems are set up , police realize that they can gain access and use them to track suspects or " terrorists .
" Once the capabilities are well-publicized , parents get interested and companies spew out spinoff consumer-friendly tracking tools... such as Verizon 's Chaperone , which more average people buy... which LE will subsequently take advantage of...Every new advance in location tracking technology is an exploitative cycle between the market forces , Big Brother and normal human attachments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First it was tracking consumers.
Look at the location histories that public transit agencies store (EZ-Pass, Metro Card, etc), not to mention credit card and cell companies that track and analyze consumer location info for the company's benefit.
Money is the greatest motivator.After these systems are set up, police realize that they can gain access and use them to track suspects or "terrorists.
" Once the capabilities are well-publicized, parents get interested and companies spew out spinoff consumer-friendly tracking tools... such as Verizon's Chaperone, which more average people buy... which LE will subsequently take advantage of...Every new advance in location tracking technology is an exploitative cycle between the market forces, Big Brother and normal human attachments.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171429</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171919</id>
	<title>It's called your child's brain.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Teach your child what bus she should be on.  The brain is already there, you just have to program it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Teach your child what bus she should be on .
The brain is already there , you just have to program it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Teach your child what bus she should be on.
The brain is already there, you just have to program it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171703</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>egburr</author>
	<datestamp>1243886940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in middle school, the buses had a number written with a marker on a piece of paper stuck in the window by the door. There was no order to how the buses arrived. We all just milled about in the yard watching for our buses. I don't know about anyone else, but I never got on the wrong bus even once.</p><p>Now at my kid's school, everyone form into lines, the teachers check names, and when the buses arrive the teachers escort the kids out to the correct bus. It may seem more secure, but it also seems to be a huge hassle.</p><p>I would occasionally go home with a friend, with our parent's knowledge and concent and prior planning days before. Now, the only way that can happen is for the kids have to give the teacher a signed note from the parents, and the teacher calls the parent to confirm it. Even with all of that, a parent has to pick them up, because the kids absolutely can not get on any bus other than their assigned home bus.</p><p>The local YMCA after school program has to have their own mini-bus to transport kids, because the school system will not let kids ride the bus that goes right by the YMCA if it's not their home bus, even though that bus is nowhere near full.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in middle school , the buses had a number written with a marker on a piece of paper stuck in the window by the door .
There was no order to how the buses arrived .
We all just milled about in the yard watching for our buses .
I do n't know about anyone else , but I never got on the wrong bus even once.Now at my kid 's school , everyone form into lines , the teachers check names , and when the buses arrive the teachers escort the kids out to the correct bus .
It may seem more secure , but it also seems to be a huge hassle.I would occasionally go home with a friend , with our parent 's knowledge and concent and prior planning days before .
Now , the only way that can happen is for the kids have to give the teacher a signed note from the parents , and the teacher calls the parent to confirm it .
Even with all of that , a parent has to pick them up , because the kids absolutely can not get on any bus other than their assigned home bus.The local YMCA after school program has to have their own mini-bus to transport kids , because the school system will not let kids ride the bus that goes right by the YMCA if it 's not their home bus , even though that bus is nowhere near full .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in middle school, the buses had a number written with a marker on a piece of paper stuck in the window by the door.
There was no order to how the buses arrived.
We all just milled about in the yard watching for our buses.
I don't know about anyone else, but I never got on the wrong bus even once.Now at my kid's school, everyone form into lines, the teachers check names, and when the buses arrive the teachers escort the kids out to the correct bus.
It may seem more secure, but it also seems to be a huge hassle.I would occasionally go home with a friend, with our parent's knowledge and concent and prior planning days before.
Now, the only way that can happen is for the kids have to give the teacher a signed note from the parents, and the teacher calls the parent to confirm it.
Even with all of that, a parent has to pick them up, because the kids absolutely can not get on any bus other than their assigned home bus.The local YMCA after school program has to have their own mini-bus to transport kids, because the school system will not let kids ride the bus that goes right by the YMCA if it's not their home bus, even though that bus is nowhere near full.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170975</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>dedazo</author>
	<datestamp>1243884300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bah, when I was a kid they painted the bus number and route with magic marker on our foreheads. No one <i>ever</i> got on the wrong bus. Ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bah , when I was a kid they painted the bus number and route with magic marker on our foreheads .
No one ever got on the wrong bus .
Ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bah, when I was a kid they painted the bus number and route with magic marker on our foreheads.
No one ever got on the wrong bus.
Ever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171477</id>
	<title>Re:Here's My Answer:</title>
	<author>wonderboss</author>
	<datestamp>1243886220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Heed your own advice.<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>

I've attended both union and non-union schools.  Unions are better for incompetent teachers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heed your own advice .
-- I 've attended both union and non-union schools .
Unions are better for incompetent teachers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heed your own advice.
--

I've attended both union and non-union schools.
Unions are better for incompetent teachers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175397</id>
	<title>Fear, fear and more fear</title>
	<author>DeanFox</author>
	<datestamp>1243858380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
I thank God I grew up before cell phones and this 24/7 parental obsession.  My son has several friends in those last few years of parental control and it's driving me nutz.  We can't even get together and watch a movie uninterrupted.
<br> <br>
One friend, his parents will call to tell him they're leaving his dinner in the fridge. Then call to tell him that the potatoes were over cooked, then call again to ask about next weeks soccer game.  And it's literally every 10-20 minutes.  If he doesn't answer, they call, call again and again... We'll stop the movie while he takes the call only to find out it's his mom wanting to tell him that next Saturday he has to go to Grandmas or something just as meaningless.  If he complains "I'm in the middle of a movie!" She'll bark back "Too bad!, that's why we pay for unlimited cell usage, blah, blah, blah... so we can get a hold of you <i>when we have too</i>.  Emphasis on "when we have too" is mine as it's apparently very subjective.
<br> <br>
It's absurd. And, yes, I'm a father.
<br> <br>
If I can't go a night not knowing where my son is, I didn't do my job as a parent.  The world is not <i>that</i> scary nor dangerous.  My son has a cell and knows how and when to dial 911 if he needs too.  And I can certainly go a night not following a red dot on some tracking web page.  I am sorry sir, but your fear is way over the top.  Of course, as with anything else, that's just my opinion.  Is is however a fear that you do share with a lot of other parents.  Fear of what I wouldn't know as I don't share it.
<br> <br>
Even in this case of a younger female home late from elementary school because she got on the wrong bus.  I still don't see the need for this level of panic or overreaction. But, that's just me.  I suspect my son appreciates the levelheadedness of the home he grows up in.  I expect his friends do as it's here they all congregate.
<br> <br>
-[d]-</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thank God I grew up before cell phones and this 24/7 parental obsession .
My son has several friends in those last few years of parental control and it 's driving me nutz .
We ca n't even get together and watch a movie uninterrupted .
One friend , his parents will call to tell him they 're leaving his dinner in the fridge .
Then call to tell him that the potatoes were over cooked , then call again to ask about next weeks soccer game .
And it 's literally every 10-20 minutes .
If he does n't answer , they call , call again and again... We 'll stop the movie while he takes the call only to find out it 's his mom wanting to tell him that next Saturday he has to go to Grandmas or something just as meaningless .
If he complains " I 'm in the middle of a movie !
" She 'll bark back " Too bad ! , that 's why we pay for unlimited cell usage , blah , blah , blah... so we can get a hold of you when we have too .
Emphasis on " when we have too " is mine as it 's apparently very subjective .
It 's absurd .
And , yes , I 'm a father .
If I ca n't go a night not knowing where my son is , I did n't do my job as a parent .
The world is not that scary nor dangerous .
My son has a cell and knows how and when to dial 911 if he needs too .
And I can certainly go a night not following a red dot on some tracking web page .
I am sorry sir , but your fear is way over the top .
Of course , as with anything else , that 's just my opinion .
Is is however a fear that you do share with a lot of other parents .
Fear of what I would n't know as I do n't share it .
Even in this case of a younger female home late from elementary school because she got on the wrong bus .
I still do n't see the need for this level of panic or overreaction .
But , that 's just me .
I suspect my son appreciates the levelheadedness of the home he grows up in .
I expect his friends do as it 's here they all congregate .
- [ d ] -</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I thank God I grew up before cell phones and this 24/7 parental obsession.
My son has several friends in those last few years of parental control and it's driving me nutz.
We can't even get together and watch a movie uninterrupted.
One friend, his parents will call to tell him they're leaving his dinner in the fridge.
Then call to tell him that the potatoes were over cooked, then call again to ask about next weeks soccer game.
And it's literally every 10-20 minutes.
If he doesn't answer, they call, call again and again... We'll stop the movie while he takes the call only to find out it's his mom wanting to tell him that next Saturday he has to go to Grandmas or something just as meaningless.
If he complains "I'm in the middle of a movie!
" She'll bark back "Too bad!, that's why we pay for unlimited cell usage, blah, blah, blah... so we can get a hold of you when we have too.
Emphasis on "when we have too" is mine as it's apparently very subjective.
It's absurd.
And, yes, I'm a father.
If I can't go a night not knowing where my son is, I didn't do my job as a parent.
The world is not that scary nor dangerous.
My son has a cell and knows how and when to dial 911 if he needs too.
And I can certainly go a night not following a red dot on some tracking web page.
I am sorry sir, but your fear is way over the top.
Of course, as with anything else, that's just my opinion.
Is is however a fear that you do share with a lot of other parents.
Fear of what I wouldn't know as I don't share it.
Even in this case of a younger female home late from elementary school because she got on the wrong bus.
I still don't see the need for this level of panic or overreaction.
But, that's just me.
I suspect my son appreciates the levelheadedness of the home he grows up in.
I expect his friends do as it's here they all congregate.
-[d]-</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175099</id>
	<title>Panic response.</title>
	<author>billcopc</author>
	<datestamp>1243856700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sort of extreme panic reaction to minor harmless incidents is how we wound up with things like the PATRIOT act.  The kid is safe, school staff are stupid, film at 11.  None of us had GPS locators when we were kids, and we turned out just fine.  The world is not bursting at the seams with child predators and random faceless boogeymen.</p><p>If anything, getting your kid accustomed to 24/7 monitoring will only make them more dependent upon it, and less apprehensive when such invasive surveillance is employed by not-so-benevolent actors.  Kids have an amazing ability to adapt to their environment, give them a hard time and they grow up stronger and smarter, make it too easy and you'll wind up with Paris Hilton knockoffs.  They're your kids, but they will be society's burden if you screw up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sort of extreme panic reaction to minor harmless incidents is how we wound up with things like the PATRIOT act .
The kid is safe , school staff are stupid , film at 11 .
None of us had GPS locators when we were kids , and we turned out just fine .
The world is not bursting at the seams with child predators and random faceless boogeymen.If anything , getting your kid accustomed to 24/7 monitoring will only make them more dependent upon it , and less apprehensive when such invasive surveillance is employed by not-so-benevolent actors .
Kids have an amazing ability to adapt to their environment , give them a hard time and they grow up stronger and smarter , make it too easy and you 'll wind up with Paris Hilton knockoffs .
They 're your kids , but they will be society 's burden if you screw up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sort of extreme panic reaction to minor harmless incidents is how we wound up with things like the PATRIOT act.
The kid is safe, school staff are stupid, film at 11.
None of us had GPS locators when we were kids, and we turned out just fine.
The world is not bursting at the seams with child predators and random faceless boogeymen.If anything, getting your kid accustomed to 24/7 monitoring will only make them more dependent upon it, and less apprehensive when such invasive surveillance is employed by not-so-benevolent actors.
Kids have an amazing ability to adapt to their environment, give them a hard time and they grow up stronger and smarter, make it too easy and you'll wind up with Paris Hilton knockoffs.
They're your kids, but they will be society's burden if you screw up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28182519</id>
	<title>Re:Simple Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243958460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and all this time I thought Finding Nemo was for pre-gaming for nights of mass sushi feasting</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and all this time I thought Finding Nemo was for pre-gaming for nights of mass sushi feasting</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and all this time I thought Finding Nemo was for pre-gaming for nights of mass sushi feasting</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170871</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172247</id>
	<title>I also planned a tracking system, and...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1243888740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...as I am very very strict in my security, I would never go without the following:</p><ul><li>Everything is encrypted. Encrypt the location data as soon as possible. If you do not need to show it on the mobile device, encrypt it right after reading it from the GPS API. With the public key of the analyzing client. Then send it out with your ID and metadata, in another encryption container, that is secured with the public key of the server On the server, never ever decrypt the location data. But encrypt the connection to the analyzing client again, with its public key. Then encrypt the private key for the client with a password. And put it on a usb stick So only the person with that stick and the password can get the data.</li><li>Next, add a opt-in-based trust-relationship aspect into that prototype. Let the tracked device have a way to define what user or group can see what part of your location, id and metadata, and to  what detail (eg. gps resolution). Then let the server check the analyzers rights on every request, and filter the data accordingly. (If possible, prefer doing as much filtering as possible on the tracked device, or as early on as possible. Just as with the encryption. The user has to specifically allow something, just as with firewalls. (By the way: If there is a generic well-proven library that does implement all this in a generic way: Use it!)</li><li>Final rule: In this issue, there is no such thing as security overkill. Don't be lazy.</li></ul><p>Oh, and if you track your children without their approval or even knowledge, then you are a bad parent and a weirdo/stalker. Good parents have the trust of their children, and do not have to rely on such evil tactics. Additionally, using them makes your children trust you even less, and learn a bad lesson too. It's a slippery slope that you do not want to try out.<br>I think we all are perfectly capable to do it the good way. You are no exception. Use your skills!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p> <em>(I made this post generic, so it's more useful.)</em> </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...as I am very very strict in my security , I would never go without the following : Everything is encrypted .
Encrypt the location data as soon as possible .
If you do not need to show it on the mobile device , encrypt it right after reading it from the GPS API .
With the public key of the analyzing client .
Then send it out with your ID and metadata , in another encryption container , that is secured with the public key of the server On the server , never ever decrypt the location data .
But encrypt the connection to the analyzing client again , with its public key .
Then encrypt the private key for the client with a password .
And put it on a usb stick So only the person with that stick and the password can get the data.Next , add a opt-in-based trust-relationship aspect into that prototype .
Let the tracked device have a way to define what user or group can see what part of your location , id and metadata , and to what detail ( eg .
gps resolution ) .
Then let the server check the analyzers rights on every request , and filter the data accordingly .
( If possible , prefer doing as much filtering as possible on the tracked device , or as early on as possible .
Just as with the encryption .
The user has to specifically allow something , just as with firewalls .
( By the way : If there is a generic well-proven library that does implement all this in a generic way : Use it !
) Final rule : In this issue , there is no such thing as security overkill .
Do n't be lazy.Oh , and if you track your children without their approval or even knowledge , then you are a bad parent and a weirdo/stalker .
Good parents have the trust of their children , and do not have to rely on such evil tactics .
Additionally , using them makes your children trust you even less , and learn a bad lesson too .
It 's a slippery slope that you do not want to try out.I think we all are perfectly capable to do it the good way .
You are no exception .
Use your skills !
: ) ( I made this post generic , so it 's more useful .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...as I am very very strict in my security, I would never go without the following:Everything is encrypted.
Encrypt the location data as soon as possible.
If you do not need to show it on the mobile device, encrypt it right after reading it from the GPS API.
With the public key of the analyzing client.
Then send it out with your ID and metadata, in another encryption container, that is secured with the public key of the server On the server, never ever decrypt the location data.
But encrypt the connection to the analyzing client again, with its public key.
Then encrypt the private key for the client with a password.
And put it on a usb stick So only the person with that stick and the password can get the data.Next, add a opt-in-based trust-relationship aspect into that prototype.
Let the tracked device have a way to define what user or group can see what part of your location, id and metadata, and to  what detail (eg.
gps resolution).
Then let the server check the analyzers rights on every request, and filter the data accordingly.
(If possible, prefer doing as much filtering as possible on the tracked device, or as early on as possible.
Just as with the encryption.
The user has to specifically allow something, just as with firewalls.
(By the way: If there is a generic well-proven library that does implement all this in a generic way: Use it!
)Final rule: In this issue, there is no such thing as security overkill.
Don't be lazy.Oh, and if you track your children without their approval or even knowledge, then you are a bad parent and a weirdo/stalker.
Good parents have the trust of their children, and do not have to rely on such evil tactics.
Additionally, using them makes your children trust you even less, and learn a bad lesson too.
It's a slippery slope that you do not want to try out.I think we all are perfectly capable to do it the good way.
You are no exception.
Use your skills!
:) (I made this post generic, so it's more useful.
) </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171599</id>
	<title>APRS</title>
	<author>teevoh</author>
	<datestamp>1243886640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since you didn't say what grade your daughter was in, I'll assume elementary school.  Spend a lot of time and teach her to get a Technician class amateur radio license.  Then plant one of these <a href="http://www.byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php" title="byonics.com" rel="nofollow">"unobtrusive"</a> [byonics.com] things on her.  Tada, you now have a mobile tracking system.  Go to <a href="http://www.googleaprs.com/" title="googleaprs.com" rel="nofollow">GoogleAPRS</a> [googleaprs.com] or <a href="http://www.jfindu.net/" title="jfindu.net" rel="nofollow">JfindU</a> [jfindu.net] to keep an eye on her.  Or just do what everyone else says; raise a stink at the PTA meetings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since you did n't say what grade your daughter was in , I 'll assume elementary school .
Spend a lot of time and teach her to get a Technician class amateur radio license .
Then plant one of these " unobtrusive " [ byonics.com ] things on her .
Tada , you now have a mobile tracking system .
Go to GoogleAPRS [ googleaprs.com ] or JfindU [ jfindu.net ] to keep an eye on her .
Or just do what everyone else says ; raise a stink at the PTA meetings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since you didn't say what grade your daughter was in, I'll assume elementary school.
Spend a lot of time and teach her to get a Technician class amateur radio license.
Then plant one of these "unobtrusive" [byonics.com] things on her.
Tada, you now have a mobile tracking system.
Go to GoogleAPRS [googleaprs.com] or JfindU [jfindu.net] to keep an eye on her.
Or just do what everyone else says; raise a stink at the PTA meetings.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170967</id>
	<title>Childtracker</title>
	<author>tivoKlr</author>
	<datestamp>1243884240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didn't the creators of SouthPark come up with a device that is strikingly similar to your request? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child\_Abduction\_Is\_Not\_Funny" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">"Childtracker"</a> [wikipedia.org] is an unobtrusive child GPS tracking system that fits conveniently on the child's head.
<p>
Maybe they'll sell you one.
</p><p>
BTW, as a parent (I know, a slashdot reader that HAS had sex) I understand your frustration with your school district...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Did n't the creators of SouthPark come up with a device that is strikingly similar to your request ?
" Childtracker " [ wikipedia.org ] is an unobtrusive child GPS tracking system that fits conveniently on the child 's head .
Maybe they 'll sell you one .
BTW , as a parent ( I know , a slashdot reader that HAS had sex ) I understand your frustration with your school district.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didn't the creators of SouthPark come up with a device that is strikingly similar to your request?
"Childtracker" [wikipedia.org] is an unobtrusive child GPS tracking system that fits conveniently on the child's head.
Maybe they'll sell you one.
BTW, as a parent (I know, a slashdot reader that HAS had sex) I understand your frustration with your school district...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171469</id>
	<title>This problem was solved...</title>
	<author>Schnoogs</author>
	<datestamp>1243886160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...thousands of years ago when parents combined the naming of their children with yelling at the top of their lungs that dinner is ready.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...thousands of years ago when parents combined the naming of their children with yelling at the top of their lungs that dinner is ready .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...thousands of years ago when parents combined the naming of their children with yelling at the top of their lungs that dinner is ready.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170837</id>
	<title>Buy her a cellphone</title>
	<author>shitzu</author>
	<datestamp>1243883820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least in my country (Estonia) you can track any GSM cellphone's (belonging to you) location from the provider's webpage or similar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least in my country ( Estonia ) you can track any GSM cellphone 's ( belonging to you ) location from the provider 's webpage or similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least in my country (Estonia) you can track any GSM cellphone's (belonging to you) location from the provider's webpage or similar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171861</id>
	<title>Re:Whoa..</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1243887420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it really possible NOT to be exposed to 24/7 RF?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it really possible NOT to be exposed to 24/7 RF ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it really possible NOT to be exposed to 24/7 RF?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170869</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171887</id>
	<title>Why Stop There?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why stop there?  Why not put and RFID chip under her skin?  In fact, I predict that within ten years you will be deemed an unfit parent if you don't.</p><p>Be careful what you wish for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why stop there ?
Why not put and RFID chip under her skin ?
In fact , I predict that within ten years you will be deemed an unfit parent if you do n't.Be careful what you wish for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why stop there?
Why not put and RFID chip under her skin?
In fact, I predict that within ten years you will be deemed an unfit parent if you don't.Be careful what you wish for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172065</id>
	<title>6 year old with diabetes</title>
	<author>bachnit37</author>
	<datestamp>1243888080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have struggled with this myself since my six year old has diabetes.  He is just starting to spread his wings and wants to go play in the park with his siblings and friends.  We always make sure to check his blood before he leaves but we still worry. I purchased a G1 Dev Phone this year and have written a small program that if it receives an SMS message of "Ping" from me it will auto respond with his latitude/longitude.  Now I'm just waiting for some cheaper/smaller phones to be released.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have struggled with this myself since my six year old has diabetes .
He is just starting to spread his wings and wants to go play in the park with his siblings and friends .
We always make sure to check his blood before he leaves but we still worry .
I purchased a G1 Dev Phone this year and have written a small program that if it receives an SMS message of " Ping " from me it will auto respond with his latitude/longitude .
Now I 'm just waiting for some cheaper/smaller phones to be released .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have struggled with this myself since my six year old has diabetes.
He is just starting to spread his wings and wants to go play in the park with his siblings and friends.
We always make sure to check his blood before he leaves but we still worry.
I purchased a G1 Dev Phone this year and have written a small program that if it receives an SMS message of "Ping" from me it will auto respond with his latitude/longitude.
Now I'm just waiting for some cheaper/smaller phones to be released.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172507</id>
	<title>Helicopter parents</title>
	<author>JustJenFelice</author>
	<datestamp>1243889760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There comes a time in everybody's life where we have to recognize that we cannot (nor should we) control every aspect of our child's life.  Every time a child leaves the care of his/her parent, both are presented with opportunity.  The child receives an opportunity to navigate a situation independently, learning to evaluate and rely upon their own abilities.  The parent receives an opportunity to begin that process of "letting go", in addition to developing faith in the child's ability to care for himself/herself.</p><p>While I agree that it is painfully horrifying to confront the "what could happen" scenarios, subjecting a child to a constant police state environment will cause <em>numerous</em> forms of blow-back, both for the child and the parent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There comes a time in everybody 's life where we have to recognize that we can not ( nor should we ) control every aspect of our child 's life .
Every time a child leaves the care of his/her parent , both are presented with opportunity .
The child receives an opportunity to navigate a situation independently , learning to evaluate and rely upon their own abilities .
The parent receives an opportunity to begin that process of " letting go " , in addition to developing faith in the child 's ability to care for himself/herself.While I agree that it is painfully horrifying to confront the " what could happen " scenarios , subjecting a child to a constant police state environment will cause numerous forms of blow-back , both for the child and the parent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There comes a time in everybody's life where we have to recognize that we cannot (nor should we) control every aspect of our child's life.
Every time a child leaves the care of his/her parent, both are presented with opportunity.
The child receives an opportunity to navigate a situation independently, learning to evaluate and rely upon their own abilities.
The parent receives an opportunity to begin that process of "letting go", in addition to developing faith in the child's ability to care for himself/herself.While I agree that it is painfully horrifying to confront the "what could happen" scenarios, subjecting a child to a constant police state environment will cause numerous forms of blow-back, both for the child and the parent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174111</id>
	<title>Tried AT&amp;T FamilyMap - It doesn't work</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243852260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was mostly worried about my daughter losing her cell phone.  She has a tendency to missplace things.  So I tried enabling ATT FamilyMap (http://familymap.attwireless.com) hoping that I would at least be able to tell if she had left the phone at home or in her locker at school.  Unfortunately ATT FamilyMap is not that accurate.  It unfortuantely can only locate the phone within 2 miles.  It can't tell the difference between my house, our school, or my brother-in-law's house as we are all within a 2 mile diameter circle.  I turned it off because it was useless.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was mostly worried about my daughter losing her cell phone .
She has a tendency to missplace things .
So I tried enabling ATT FamilyMap ( http : //familymap.attwireless.com ) hoping that I would at least be able to tell if she had left the phone at home or in her locker at school .
Unfortunately ATT FamilyMap is not that accurate .
It unfortuantely can only locate the phone within 2 miles .
It ca n't tell the difference between my house , our school , or my brother-in-law 's house as we are all within a 2 mile diameter circle .
I turned it off because it was useless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was mostly worried about my daughter losing her cell phone.
She has a tendency to missplace things.
So I tried enabling ATT FamilyMap (http://familymap.attwireless.com) hoping that I would at least be able to tell if she had left the phone at home or in her locker at school.
Unfortunately ATT FamilyMap is not that accurate.
It unfortuantely can only locate the phone within 2 miles.
It can't tell the difference between my house, our school, or my brother-in-law's house as we are all within a 2 mile diameter circle.
I turned it off because it was useless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171385</id>
	<title>If you can track'em...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243885800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then so can every other pervert waiting to molest your child.  Furthermore it can be used to help establish lifestyle patterns in which people get to know you without you ever knowing them.  It is amazing that the vast majority of people just flat out trust technology on this level despite overwhelming proof that YOU CANT TRUST TECHNOLOGY!</p><p>It works like this.  Someone GPS's their child.  The trend catches on and then someone gets the bright idea that the goobermint should regulate it.  Now everyone is forced to wear GPS so the goobermint can trak all of it's wayward citizen's and when someone stumbles into the wrong place without knowing any better the CIA/FBI or your favorite 3 letter organization like the DHS can legal come in and take you to Gitmo as a terrorist without any protections.</p><p>And all this to help protect you and your child.  Meanwhile rampant kidknappings are taking place because some underground entity has managed to continually hack goobermint computers and locate all your kiddos.  All they have to do next is cut out the gps chips with a chainsaw or a scalpel if they are friendly kidnappers.</p><p>Anyone who thinks I am nuts has obviously not paid much attention to the security forums that have tried to out the very lazy security with RFID implimentations.  Technology is great, but it has allowed indentity theft to become MUCH EASIER to perpetrate, and strangely enough, more difficult to track down and catch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then so can every other pervert waiting to molest your child .
Furthermore it can be used to help establish lifestyle patterns in which people get to know you without you ever knowing them .
It is amazing that the vast majority of people just flat out trust technology on this level despite overwhelming proof that YOU CANT TRUST TECHNOLOGY ! It works like this .
Someone GPS 's their child .
The trend catches on and then someone gets the bright idea that the goobermint should regulate it .
Now everyone is forced to wear GPS so the goobermint can trak all of it 's wayward citizen 's and when someone stumbles into the wrong place without knowing any better the CIA/FBI or your favorite 3 letter organization like the DHS can legal come in and take you to Gitmo as a terrorist without any protections.And all this to help protect you and your child .
Meanwhile rampant kidknappings are taking place because some underground entity has managed to continually hack goobermint computers and locate all your kiddos .
All they have to do next is cut out the gps chips with a chainsaw or a scalpel if they are friendly kidnappers.Anyone who thinks I am nuts has obviously not paid much attention to the security forums that have tried to out the very lazy security with RFID implimentations .
Technology is great , but it has allowed indentity theft to become MUCH EASIER to perpetrate , and strangely enough , more difficult to track down and catch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then so can every other pervert waiting to molest your child.
Furthermore it can be used to help establish lifestyle patterns in which people get to know you without you ever knowing them.
It is amazing that the vast majority of people just flat out trust technology on this level despite overwhelming proof that YOU CANT TRUST TECHNOLOGY!It works like this.
Someone GPS's their child.
The trend catches on and then someone gets the bright idea that the goobermint should regulate it.
Now everyone is forced to wear GPS so the goobermint can trak all of it's wayward citizen's and when someone stumbles into the wrong place without knowing any better the CIA/FBI or your favorite 3 letter organization like the DHS can legal come in and take you to Gitmo as a terrorist without any protections.And all this to help protect you and your child.
Meanwhile rampant kidknappings are taking place because some underground entity has managed to continually hack goobermint computers and locate all your kiddos.
All they have to do next is cut out the gps chips with a chainsaw or a scalpel if they are friendly kidnappers.Anyone who thinks I am nuts has obviously not paid much attention to the security forums that have tried to out the very lazy security with RFID implimentations.
Technology is great, but it has allowed indentity theft to become MUCH EASIER to perpetrate, and strangely enough, more difficult to track down and catch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171581</id>
	<title>Low tech solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The time honored way of dealing with this issue is to have redundant children.
<br>
<br>
If you live in one of the red countries on this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth\_rates" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">map</a> [wikipedia.org] you are probably not having enough children anyhow. If things don't change, in a couple of hundred years your culture will be gone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The time honored way of dealing with this issue is to have redundant children .
If you live in one of the red countries on this map [ wikipedia.org ] you are probably not having enough children anyhow .
If things do n't change , in a couple of hundred years your culture will be gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The time honored way of dealing with this issue is to have redundant children.
If you live in one of the red countries on this map [wikipedia.org] you are probably not having enough children anyhow.
If things don't change, in a couple of hundred years your culture will be gone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170925</id>
	<title>Android is the anwer!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey there,</p><p>buy an android based phone and install the application " BuddyMob" .<br>It geolocates your position realtime on google maps (and allso your buddies that have the same app offcourse).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey there,buy an android based phone and install the application " BuddyMob " .It geolocates your position realtime on google maps ( and allso your buddies that have the same app offcourse ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey there,buy an android based phone and install the application " BuddyMob" .It geolocates your position realtime on google maps (and allso your buddies that have the same app offcourse).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171451</id>
	<title>For my dog</title>
	<author>Charles Dodgeson</author>
	<datestamp>1243886040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want something like this for one of my dogs.</p><p>One of our dogs is hard to see at night and will take off after a rabbit when on a walk that she will rip the leash from your hand.  She will then get her leash tangled in a bush somewhere.  Once trapped like this she will remain perfectly quiet for days even if you walk by the bush calling her name.  If only she would bark for help we wouldn't have a problem.  But she has gotten her self trapped this way several times, and on one occasion spent two nights that way until we found her.  (Her silence probably did save her from coyotes, however.)</p><p>A locater would be good, but even something that made a noise would be fine.  If we could get a very small cellphone with a ringer only, that would probably do the job.   (Maybe we would set the ring tone to a bark.)   Anything attached to her collar needs to be small and light enough that she won't try to remove it and cheap enough so that if she does lose or destroy it we will feel okay about replacing it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want something like this for one of my dogs.One of our dogs is hard to see at night and will take off after a rabbit when on a walk that she will rip the leash from your hand .
She will then get her leash tangled in a bush somewhere .
Once trapped like this she will remain perfectly quiet for days even if you walk by the bush calling her name .
If only she would bark for help we would n't have a problem .
But she has gotten her self trapped this way several times , and on one occasion spent two nights that way until we found her .
( Her silence probably did save her from coyotes , however .
) A locater would be good , but even something that made a noise would be fine .
If we could get a very small cellphone with a ringer only , that would probably do the job .
( Maybe we would set the ring tone to a bark .
) Anything attached to her collar needs to be small and light enough that she wo n't try to remove it and cheap enough so that if she does lose or destroy it we will feel okay about replacing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want something like this for one of my dogs.One of our dogs is hard to see at night and will take off after a rabbit when on a walk that she will rip the leash from your hand.
She will then get her leash tangled in a bush somewhere.
Once trapped like this she will remain perfectly quiet for days even if you walk by the bush calling her name.
If only she would bark for help we wouldn't have a problem.
But she has gotten her self trapped this way several times, and on one occasion spent two nights that way until we found her.
(Her silence probably did save her from coyotes, however.
)A locater would be good, but even something that made a noise would be fine.
If we could get a very small cellphone with a ringer only, that would probably do the job.
(Maybe we would set the ring tone to a bark.
)   Anything attached to her collar needs to be small and light enough that she won't try to remove it and cheap enough so that if she does lose or destroy it we will feel okay about replacing it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172665</id>
	<title>AmberAlertGPS</title>
	<author>supremecommander62</author>
	<datestamp>1243847100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The company I work for is contracting to build a LAMP based customer management system for this new cool device.  Clearly the smallest thing out there.  Go check it out at www.amberalertgps.com.

They have spent alot of time trying to figure out pricing, options, features, and I think they have good solution.  Cheap on the low end, feature rich on the high end.  The features real quick are, Safe-Zone, Destination Alert, Speed Alert, Temperature Alert, Monitor, Page, Current Location, and SOS.

All the commands are executable from your cell phone, just send an SMS to the device and it do what you tell it to.  Simplest feature is 'where', and a few seconds later the device sends back a link to a web page with the google map location of where the device is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The company I work for is contracting to build a LAMP based customer management system for this new cool device .
Clearly the smallest thing out there .
Go check it out at www.amberalertgps.com .
They have spent alot of time trying to figure out pricing , options , features , and I think they have good solution .
Cheap on the low end , feature rich on the high end .
The features real quick are , Safe-Zone , Destination Alert , Speed Alert , Temperature Alert , Monitor , Page , Current Location , and SOS .
All the commands are executable from your cell phone , just send an SMS to the device and it do what you tell it to .
Simplest feature is 'where ' , and a few seconds later the device sends back a link to a web page with the google map location of where the device is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The company I work for is contracting to build a LAMP based customer management system for this new cool device.
Clearly the smallest thing out there.
Go check it out at www.amberalertgps.com.
They have spent alot of time trying to figure out pricing, options, features, and I think they have good solution.
Cheap on the low end, feature rich on the high end.
The features real quick are, Safe-Zone, Destination Alert, Speed Alert, Temperature Alert, Monitor, Page, Current Location, and SOS.
All the commands are executable from your cell phone, just send an SMS to the device and it do what you tell it to.
Simplest feature is 'where', and a few seconds later the device sends back a link to a web page with the google map location of where the device is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171711</id>
	<title>Check yourself first.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Be careful about how much of this "side project" is being driven by a genuine need, and how much is being driven by a love for technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Be careful about how much of this " side project " is being driven by a genuine need , and how much is being driven by a love for technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Be careful about how much of this "side project" is being driven by a genuine need, and how much is being driven by a love for technology.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171565</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <a href="http://www.themobiletracker.com/" title="themobiletracker.com" rel="nofollow">This one</a> [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.</p></div><p>Hahahahaha, !cute. The only reason this was modded insightful is because nobody either knows about, or followed the link.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This one [ themobiletracker.com ] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife , anyway.Hahahahaha , ! cute .
The only reason this was modded insightful is because nobody either knows about , or followed the link .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> This one [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.Hahahahaha, !cute.
The only reason this was modded insightful is because nobody either knows about, or followed the link.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172557</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong Solution</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1243889940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A generation (or two) ago the kid would have had her address, phone number and parent's names memorized before entering school and been given instructions on how recognize a policeman or other "trustworthy" person.  Bank tellers are a good choice, considering all the cameras in a bank.</p><p>But, you're right that a tracking device is treating the symptom and not the disease.  The procedures of the school need to be reviewed and addressed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A generation ( or two ) ago the kid would have had her address , phone number and parent 's names memorized before entering school and been given instructions on how recognize a policeman or other " trustworthy " person .
Bank tellers are a good choice , considering all the cameras in a bank.But , you 're right that a tracking device is treating the symptom and not the disease .
The procedures of the school need to be reviewed and addressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A generation (or two) ago the kid would have had her address, phone number and parent's names memorized before entering school and been given instructions on how recognize a policeman or other "trustworthy" person.
Bank tellers are a good choice, considering all the cameras in a bank.But, you're right that a tracking device is treating the symptom and not the disease.
The procedures of the school need to be reviewed and addressed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170899</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172699</id>
	<title>It's not just what you ask for yourself</title>
	<author>btempleton</author>
	<datestamp>1243847220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're upset that your daughter was lost, and everybody understands that.   But you must consider what it means to have what you ask for become a trend, and to have the infrastructure built to make it easy to do.</p><p>Perhaps when your child is 6 nobody will claim she has any rights, and you are free to lojack her.  But then we will have to ask the question, when does she gain some dignity and rights, at what age does it become a bad idea for you to do this?  At what age should it actually be illegal for you to do this?   We have not had to ask that question until you do it.</p><p>Location services all beg the question of what to do when one person is in power over another and can demand location data.  You can over your young child, and more debatably over your older child.  Can employers ask it of employees?   On their breaks?   Can husbands ask it of wives?   Not demand it, you understand, but ask, as in, "Honey, what's wrong with me knowing where you are?  Think how handy it would be.  Don't you trust me?  Don't you love me?"</p><p>This is the world you will help build.   But it gets worse.  You see, there will be flaws in the system.  Not just hackable security issues, but mistakes.  After a custody battle, somebody will forget to turn off the non-custodial parent's access to the location data on the child.  This will assist in many kidnappings.   (As you may not know, the vast, vast, vast majority of kidnappings are by relatives.  The random stranger that everybody is afraid of barely exists.)   Perhaps not in your case, but in many people's in this world you are creating.</p><p>A better idea?  Teach your child, if lost, to approach a suitable adult, and hand them a card or show them her bracelet, which has your cell phone numbers on it.   We tell children not to talk to strangers, but we forget to mention that means not to talk to strangers who approach *you*.  It is perfectly fine to talk to strangers the child selects for help, more than fine, it's the right thing for her to do.   Or sew the number in the lining of her coat, or shoes, or lunchbox or whatever.    If you really think it's bad for her to approach strangers, teach her to identify police, teachers, people in uniform etc, but tell her that if she can't find one of those to approach any nicely dressed person.</p><p>She'll be fine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're upset that your daughter was lost , and everybody understands that .
But you must consider what it means to have what you ask for become a trend , and to have the infrastructure built to make it easy to do.Perhaps when your child is 6 nobody will claim she has any rights , and you are free to lojack her .
But then we will have to ask the question , when does she gain some dignity and rights , at what age does it become a bad idea for you to do this ?
At what age should it actually be illegal for you to do this ?
We have not had to ask that question until you do it.Location services all beg the question of what to do when one person is in power over another and can demand location data .
You can over your young child , and more debatably over your older child .
Can employers ask it of employees ?
On their breaks ?
Can husbands ask it of wives ?
Not demand it , you understand , but ask , as in , " Honey , what 's wrong with me knowing where you are ?
Think how handy it would be .
Do n't you trust me ?
Do n't you love me ?
" This is the world you will help build .
But it gets worse .
You see , there will be flaws in the system .
Not just hackable security issues , but mistakes .
After a custody battle , somebody will forget to turn off the non-custodial parent 's access to the location data on the child .
This will assist in many kidnappings .
( As you may not know , the vast , vast , vast majority of kidnappings are by relatives .
The random stranger that everybody is afraid of barely exists .
) Perhaps not in your case , but in many people 's in this world you are creating.A better idea ?
Teach your child , if lost , to approach a suitable adult , and hand them a card or show them her bracelet , which has your cell phone numbers on it .
We tell children not to talk to strangers , but we forget to mention that means not to talk to strangers who approach * you * .
It is perfectly fine to talk to strangers the child selects for help , more than fine , it 's the right thing for her to do .
Or sew the number in the lining of her coat , or shoes , or lunchbox or whatever .
If you really think it 's bad for her to approach strangers , teach her to identify police , teachers , people in uniform etc , but tell her that if she ca n't find one of those to approach any nicely dressed person.She 'll be fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're upset that your daughter was lost, and everybody understands that.
But you must consider what it means to have what you ask for become a trend, and to have the infrastructure built to make it easy to do.Perhaps when your child is 6 nobody will claim she has any rights, and you are free to lojack her.
But then we will have to ask the question, when does she gain some dignity and rights, at what age does it become a bad idea for you to do this?
At what age should it actually be illegal for you to do this?
We have not had to ask that question until you do it.Location services all beg the question of what to do when one person is in power over another and can demand location data.
You can over your young child, and more debatably over your older child.
Can employers ask it of employees?
On their breaks?
Can husbands ask it of wives?
Not demand it, you understand, but ask, as in, "Honey, what's wrong with me knowing where you are?
Think how handy it would be.
Don't you trust me?
Don't you love me?
"This is the world you will help build.
But it gets worse.
You see, there will be flaws in the system.
Not just hackable security issues, but mistakes.
After a custody battle, somebody will forget to turn off the non-custodial parent's access to the location data on the child.
This will assist in many kidnappings.
(As you may not know, the vast, vast, vast majority of kidnappings are by relatives.
The random stranger that everybody is afraid of barely exists.
)   Perhaps not in your case, but in many people's in this world you are creating.A better idea?
Teach your child, if lost, to approach a suitable adult, and hand them a card or show them her bracelet, which has your cell phone numbers on it.
We tell children not to talk to strangers, but we forget to mention that means not to talk to strangers who approach *you*.
It is perfectly fine to talk to strangers the child selects for help, more than fine, it's the right thing for her to do.
Or sew the number in the lining of her coat, or shoes, or lunchbox or whatever.
If you really think it's bad for her to approach strangers, teach her to identify police, teachers, people in uniform etc, but tell her that if she can't find one of those to approach any nicely dressed person.She'll be fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171659</id>
	<title>Other recommendations...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Homeschool:<br>
<br>
1) Not needed - just look at her.<br>
2) Allows you to see the real-time position of your daughter in precision 3d detail.<br>
3) All appropriate information available without using any devices<br>
4) Take her with you anyplace in the world<br>
5) Stop looking at her.<br>
6) Hmmm<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... not sure about this<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Homeschool : 1 ) Not needed - just look at her .
2 ) Allows you to see the real-time position of your daughter in precision 3d detail .
3 ) All appropriate information available without using any devices 4 ) Take her with you anyplace in the world 5 ) Stop looking at her .
6 ) Hmmm ... ... not sure about this .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Homeschool:

1) Not needed - just look at her.
2) Allows you to see the real-time position of your daughter in precision 3d detail.
3) All appropriate information available without using any devices
4) Take her with you anyplace in the world
5) Stop looking at her.
6) Hmmm ... ... not sure about this ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171145</id>
	<title>Educate her</title>
	<author>blhack</author>
	<datestamp>1243884960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This happened to me when I was a kid.  The school thought that I had signed up for Hockey, but hadn't.  They sent me across town to hockey practice.<br>Instead of freaking out, I got there and started playing hockey.  Then I called my mom and told her to come and pick me up.<br>Why?  Because I didn't have psychotic over-reacting parents.  I was smart enough to go "there is a problem here, I should fix it."<br>And I did.</p><p>Teach your daughter this same thing.  Make her memorize your phone number.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This happened to me when I was a kid .
The school thought that I had signed up for Hockey , but had n't .
They sent me across town to hockey practice.Instead of freaking out , I got there and started playing hockey .
Then I called my mom and told her to come and pick me up.Why ?
Because I did n't have psychotic over-reacting parents .
I was smart enough to go " there is a problem here , I should fix it .
" And I did.Teach your daughter this same thing .
Make her memorize your phone number .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This happened to me when I was a kid.
The school thought that I had signed up for Hockey, but hadn't.
They sent me across town to hockey practice.Instead of freaking out, I got there and started playing hockey.
Then I called my mom and told her to come and pick me up.Why?
Because I didn't have psychotic over-reacting parents.
I was smart enough to go "there is a problem here, I should fix it.
"And I did.Teach your daughter this same thing.
Make her memorize your phone number.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28179573</id>
	<title>What a country...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243941660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm very glad I live in the Netherlands, where children are happy (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6360517.stm), and don't have to be watched all the time. My children are, er, out at the moment. Yesterday they cycled to the beach.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm very glad I live in the Netherlands , where children are happy ( http : //news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6360517.stm ) , and do n't have to be watched all the time .
My children are , er , out at the moment .
Yesterday they cycled to the beach .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm very glad I live in the Netherlands, where children are happy (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6360517.stm), and don't have to be watched all the time.
My children are, er, out at the moment.
Yesterday they cycled to the beach.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174129</id>
	<title>Re:Educate her</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1243852380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same story, but it was bowling.  And I was just a kid who wanted to go bowling - I didn't know if I was signed-up or not.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same story , but it was bowling .
And I was just a kid who wanted to go bowling - I did n't know if I was signed-up or not .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same story, but it was bowling.
And I was just a kid who wanted to go bowling - I didn't know if I was signed-up or not.
:-)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171145</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175927</id>
	<title>Unobstrusive device?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243861800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter,</p><p>Uh, where do you intend to put this device?</p><p>In your daughter's hand, I hope.  Aka, a cell phone, right?</p><p>Or is this a futuristic chip implantation type question?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter,Uh , where do you intend to put this device ? In your daughter 's hand , I hope .
Aka , a cell phone , right ? Or is this a futuristic chip implantation type question ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter,Uh, where do you intend to put this device?In your daughter's hand, I hope.
Aka, a cell phone, right?Or is this a futuristic chip implantation type question?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173091</id>
	<title>So what do you tell these parents?</title>
	<author>misterooga</author>
	<datestamp>1243848720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's interesting because I was talking to my wife about this concept.

For all of you telling the OP that s/he is over-reacting, what do you tell parents of <a href="http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla\%3Aen-GB\%3Aofficial&amp;hs=uAZ&amp;q=tori+stafford&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=" title="google.ca" rel="nofollow">Tori Stafford</a> [google.ca] [google.ca]?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's interesting because I was talking to my wife about this concept .
For all of you telling the OP that s/he is over-reacting , what do you tell parents of Tori Stafford [ google.ca ] [ google.ca ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's interesting because I was talking to my wife about this concept.
For all of you telling the OP that s/he is over-reacting, what do you tell parents of Tori Stafford [google.ca] [google.ca]?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171753</id>
	<title>Re:Drive her</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1243887060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in elementary and middle school I had to walk to school because I was one of three kids in my area. The walk was a rather long one. When I got to high school which was only a half a mile away, they sent a bus.</p><p>My Junior year of high school all the little kids in the area became school age, instantly there was buses. That really pissed me off thinking of all the cold winters I had to walk in below zero temps.</p><p>Then I realized that I was finally old enough to tell those "when i was your age stories"!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in elementary and middle school I had to walk to school because I was one of three kids in my area .
The walk was a rather long one .
When I got to high school which was only a half a mile away , they sent a bus.My Junior year of high school all the little kids in the area became school age , instantly there was buses .
That really pissed me off thinking of all the cold winters I had to walk in below zero temps.Then I realized that I was finally old enough to tell those " when i was your age stories " ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in elementary and middle school I had to walk to school because I was one of three kids in my area.
The walk was a rather long one.
When I got to high school which was only a half a mile away, they sent a bus.My Junior year of high school all the little kids in the area became school age, instantly there was buses.
That really pissed me off thinking of all the cold winters I had to walk in below zero temps.Then I realized that I was finally old enough to tell those "when i was your age stories"!!
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171019</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173277</id>
	<title>Honestly</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243849380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, kids always come back when they are hungry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , kids always come back when they are hungry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, kids always come back when they are hungry.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171031</id>
	<title>Don't do it.</title>
	<author>1u3hr</author>
	<datestamp>1243884540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>How would your device help your kid after she got on the wrong bus? Will you intercept it in your Batmobile? Worst case she spends an hour sitting on a bus till it gets back to the terminal and she gets the right one, or you pick her up. Doesn't warrant surgical implantation. School bus drivers do know how to handle kids who get the wrong bus.
<p>
Your kid will hate you for this should you ever try to do it. And I wouldn't be surprised if you had to do a lot of explaining to child welfare agencies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How would your device help your kid after she got on the wrong bus ?
Will you intercept it in your Batmobile ?
Worst case she spends an hour sitting on a bus till it gets back to the terminal and she gets the right one , or you pick her up .
Does n't warrant surgical implantation .
School bus drivers do know how to handle kids who get the wrong bus .
Your kid will hate you for this should you ever try to do it .
And I would n't be surprised if you had to do a lot of explaining to child welfare agencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How would your device help your kid after she got on the wrong bus?
Will you intercept it in your Batmobile?
Worst case she spends an hour sitting on a bus till it gets back to the terminal and she gets the right one, or you pick her up.
Doesn't warrant surgical implantation.
School bus drivers do know how to handle kids who get the wrong bus.
Your kid will hate you for this should you ever try to do it.
And I wouldn't be surprised if you had to do a lot of explaining to child welfare agencies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174375</id>
	<title>Re:Neural network...</title>
	<author>schmiddy</author>
	<datestamp>1243853340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hrmm.. I actually did that already. I followed some instructions online for a fun way to roll your own carbon-based biological intelligent computing system. Took a while for the machine to finally come online, and a few years for it to train itself, but even after it reached maturity the results were a little disappointing. See, after they become self-aware, they start making these ridiculous demands, wanting new clothes, cell phones, internet access, allowance money, etc. etc. And the damn machine seems disloyal, even outright hostile at times. I'm thinking about throwing in the towel and just starting to build a new one from scratch.. I hear they come in two different distros, M and F, and the F tend to be easier to handle, at least initially.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hrmm.. I actually did that already .
I followed some instructions online for a fun way to roll your own carbon-based biological intelligent computing system .
Took a while for the machine to finally come online , and a few years for it to train itself , but even after it reached maturity the results were a little disappointing .
See , after they become self-aware , they start making these ridiculous demands , wanting new clothes , cell phones , internet access , allowance money , etc .
etc. And the damn machine seems disloyal , even outright hostile at times .
I 'm thinking about throwing in the towel and just starting to build a new one from scratch.. I hear they come in two different distros , M and F , and the F tend to be easier to handle , at least initially .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hrmm.. I actually did that already.
I followed some instructions online for a fun way to roll your own carbon-based biological intelligent computing system.
Took a while for the machine to finally come online, and a few years for it to train itself, but even after it reached maturity the results were a little disappointing.
See, after they become self-aware, they start making these ridiculous demands, wanting new clothes, cell phones, internet access, allowance money, etc.
etc. And the damn machine seems disloyal, even outright hostile at times.
I'm thinking about throwing in the towel and just starting to build a new one from scratch.. I hear they come in two different distros, M and F, and the F tend to be easier to handle, at least initially.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175959</id>
	<title>Google Latitude</title>
	<author>Ascoo</author>
	<datestamp>1243861980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just use a phone that supports Google Latitude? <a href="http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html</a> [google.com]. All the work has been done for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just use a phone that supports Google Latitude ?
http : //www.google.com/latitude/intro.html [ google.com ] .
All the work has been done for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just use a phone that supports Google Latitude?
http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html [google.com].
All the work has been done for you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172017</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>Chees0rz</author>
	<datestamp>1243887900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really hope you don't mean middle school.  I believe we did this in K-3, in my school district, in Maine... but middle school?  Sheesh... i was already getting some prepubescent action at that age...

<br>
<br>
And to add something helpful-  our school also dismissed us by Bus# so there wasn't a mad rush and chaos.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope you do n't mean middle school .
I believe we did this in K-3 , in my school district , in Maine... but middle school ?
Sheesh... i was already getting some prepubescent action at that age.. . And to add something helpful- our school also dismissed us by Bus # so there was n't a mad rush and chaos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope you don't mean middle school.
I believe we did this in K-3, in my school district, in Maine... but middle school?
Sheesh... i was already getting some prepubescent action at that age...



And to add something helpful-  our school also dismissed us by Bus# so there wasn't a mad rush and chaos.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174609</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>glitch23</author>
	<datestamp>1243854360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pretend, for instance, that you get a perfect tracking device for your daughter. That sorta solves your problem...</p></div><p>Actually, the tracking device is a solution to his question but only workaround to the original problem of his child getting on the wrong bus. It isn't close to a solution at all because it doesn't change the probability of her getting on he wrong bus. He asked the wrong question to begin with.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretend , for instance , that you get a perfect tracking device for your daughter .
That sorta solves your problem...Actually , the tracking device is a solution to his question but only workaround to the original problem of his child getting on the wrong bus .
It is n't close to a solution at all because it does n't change the probability of her getting on he wrong bus .
He asked the wrong question to begin with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretend, for instance, that you get a perfect tracking device for your daughter.
That sorta solves your problem...Actually, the tracking device is a solution to his question but only workaround to the original problem of his child getting on the wrong bus.
It isn't close to a solution at all because it doesn't change the probability of her getting on he wrong bus.
He asked the wrong question to begin with.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28186401</id>
	<title>You need a Zoombak Personal GPS Locator</title>
	<author>Zoombakguy</author>
	<datestamp>1243974480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Check it out at www.zoombak.com.  Promo right now is for 3 months free.  Least expensive, easiest to use GPS tracker on the market.

Thanks.

Zoombak Guy</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check it out at www.zoombak.com .
Promo right now is for 3 months free .
Least expensive , easiest to use GPS tracker on the market .
Thanks . Zoombak Guy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check it out at www.zoombak.com.
Promo right now is for 3 months free.
Least expensive, easiest to use GPS tracker on the market.
Thanks.

Zoombak Guy</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28181323</id>
	<title>Cell phone?</title>
	<author>OhHellWithIt</author>
	<datestamp>1243954140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably the easiest way to achieve this is to give her a cell phone and pay for the locator service. If she values the phone, she'll keep it with her.  However, like several people have already commented, teach your child how to call you. Remember that your primary goal in parenting is to raise a self-sufficient adult. Ending up on the wrong school bus is only the beginning of the crises she will face in life.
</p><p>Good luck!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably the easiest way to achieve this is to give her a cell phone and pay for the locator service .
If she values the phone , she 'll keep it with her .
However , like several people have already commented , teach your child how to call you .
Remember that your primary goal in parenting is to raise a self-sufficient adult .
Ending up on the wrong school bus is only the beginning of the crises she will face in life .
Good luck !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably the easiest way to achieve this is to give her a cell phone and pay for the locator service.
If she values the phone, she'll keep it with her.
However, like several people have already commented, teach your child how to call you.
Remember that your primary goal in parenting is to raise a self-sufficient adult.
Ending up on the wrong school bus is only the beginning of the crises she will face in life.
Good luck!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28188299</id>
	<title>why would you want to?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243939080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that is one of the sickest things i have ever heard</p><p>your biological child or not, whatever her age is, even you have no right to destroy her privacy like that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that is one of the sickest things i have ever heardyour biological child or not , whatever her age is , even you have no right to destroy her privacy like that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that is one of the sickest things i have ever heardyour biological child or not, whatever her age is, even you have no right to destroy her privacy like that</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172429</id>
	<title>A phone?</title>
	<author>CohibaVancouver</author>
	<datestamp>1243889460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I was in grade three (in 1975) I started taking public transit (by bus) to school.  This included a transfer between buses.  In addition to my bus fare, my parents gave me a dime to call home if I got lost or had a problem.  I never did.  Just get your kid a phone.  If you've lost the kid, call them and say "Where are you?" or have them call you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in grade three ( in 1975 ) I started taking public transit ( by bus ) to school .
This included a transfer between buses .
In addition to my bus fare , my parents gave me a dime to call home if I got lost or had a problem .
I never did .
Just get your kid a phone .
If you 've lost the kid , call them and say " Where are you ?
" or have them call you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in grade three (in 1975) I started taking public transit (by bus) to school.
This included a transfer between buses.
In addition to my bus fare, my parents gave me a dime to call home if I got lost or had a problem.
I never did.
Just get your kid a phone.
If you've lost the kid, call them and say "Where are you?
" or have them call you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171633</id>
	<title>Re:This is why Home Schooling is better</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>RIGHT. And while we're home together, I can teach her how to panhandle, dumpster-dive, and all the other skills she'll need because I no longer have a job. Yeah, there's some shortcomings in the public education system... but it's all some people have. Once you have a few kids, perhaps you'll come to realize that there are no 'easy' solutions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>RIGHT .
And while we 're home together , I can teach her how to panhandle , dumpster-dive , and all the other skills she 'll need because I no longer have a job .
Yeah , there 's some shortcomings in the public education system... but it 's all some people have .
Once you have a few kids , perhaps you 'll come to realize that there are no 'easy ' solutions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RIGHT.
And while we're home together, I can teach her how to panhandle, dumpster-dive, and all the other skills she'll need because I no longer have a job.
Yeah, there's some shortcomings in the public education system... but it's all some people have.
Once you have a few kids, perhaps you'll come to realize that there are no 'easy' solutions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170895</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171681</id>
	<title>Tagging your kid due to someone elses incompetence</title>
	<author>Doug52392</author>
	<datestamp>1243886880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Honestly, your willing to spend your precious time, money, and resources due to the incompetence of the school system - which you pay for in your taxes to begin with? I can understand if your sending your kids to a school in a high-crime neighborhood, but I doubt that's the case.</p><p>Talk to the school district. Ask why these mistakes happen in the first place, and make sure these mistakes don't happen. You shouldn't need to put your kids under surveillance "for their own protection" if there is someone who is supposed to be responsible for the safety and well being of your children.</p><p>As for a "Child Locating System", a $20 prepaid cellular phone with call restrictions so the phone can only call home should suffice. That way, all the child has to do is call "HOME" or "MOM" and describe where they are (Or, if the child is actually in trouble, the police should be able to locate the child using the data from the phone).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Honestly , your willing to spend your precious time , money , and resources due to the incompetence of the school system - which you pay for in your taxes to begin with ?
I can understand if your sending your kids to a school in a high-crime neighborhood , but I doubt that 's the case.Talk to the school district .
Ask why these mistakes happen in the first place , and make sure these mistakes do n't happen .
You should n't need to put your kids under surveillance " for their own protection " if there is someone who is supposed to be responsible for the safety and well being of your children.As for a " Child Locating System " , a $ 20 prepaid cellular phone with call restrictions so the phone can only call home should suffice .
That way , all the child has to do is call " HOME " or " MOM " and describe where they are ( Or , if the child is actually in trouble , the police should be able to locate the child using the data from the phone ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Honestly, your willing to spend your precious time, money, and resources due to the incompetence of the school system - which you pay for in your taxes to begin with?
I can understand if your sending your kids to a school in a high-crime neighborhood, but I doubt that's the case.Talk to the school district.
Ask why these mistakes happen in the first place, and make sure these mistakes don't happen.
You shouldn't need to put your kids under surveillance "for their own protection" if there is someone who is supposed to be responsible for the safety and well being of your children.As for a "Child Locating System", a $20 prepaid cellular phone with call restrictions so the phone can only call home should suffice.
That way, all the child has to do is call "HOME" or "MOM" and describe where they are (Or, if the child is actually in trouble, the police should be able to locate the child using the data from the phone).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171443</id>
	<title>Crime.</title>
	<author>EkriirkE</author>
	<datestamp>1243886040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have her repeatedly commit crimes (theft?) and local law will install an ankle bracelet.  With this she should be either placed under house arrest andr hopefully be allowed to go to school.  If she ever deviates from either location, law enforcement will contact you and let you know soon to be followed by them escorting her home safely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have her repeatedly commit crimes ( theft ?
) and local law will install an ankle bracelet .
With this she should be either placed under house arrest andr hopefully be allowed to go to school .
If she ever deviates from either location , law enforcement will contact you and let you know soon to be followed by them escorting her home safely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have her repeatedly commit crimes (theft?
) and local law will install an ankle bracelet.
With this she should be either placed under house arrest andr hopefully be allowed to go to school.
If she ever deviates from either location, law enforcement will contact you and let you know soon to be followed by them escorting her home safely.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28183257</id>
	<title>Wrong solution</title>
	<author>geekoid</author>
	<datestamp>1243960920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem is in the way the school is handling getting children on the bus.<br>Fix that [roblem.</p><p>I is nice to see the Linux comes before your daughters safety, truly hard core.</p><p>Finally, you can NOT have your cake and eat t to. If you can track so can someone else, no exceptions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is in the way the school is handling getting children on the bus.Fix that [ roblem.I is nice to see the Linux comes before your daughters safety , truly hard core.Finally , you can NOT have your cake and eat t to .
If you can track so can someone else , no exceptions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is in the way the school is handling getting children on the bus.Fix that [roblem.I is nice to see the Linux comes before your daughters safety, truly hard core.Finally, you can NOT have your cake and eat t to.
If you can track so can someone else, no exceptions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171023</id>
	<title>GPS enabled Cell phone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As others have mentioned, a GPS enabled cell phone is the easiest option. I think some of the responses were far less rational than your request. I live in a small-ish community of 185,000 and just yesterday read of a girl that has been missing for 8 years with no leads. If you live in a large community, it is even more common. Between pedophiles and girls being forced into prostitution I think this is a reasonable thing to do. I have even read stories of forced prostitution rings in Iowa, so the problem is pretty wide spread. Only you can decide what is an appropriate trade off between safety and security for your child. You know your neighborhood and naivety of your child better than anyone blasting you on Slashdot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As others have mentioned , a GPS enabled cell phone is the easiest option .
I think some of the responses were far less rational than your request .
I live in a small-ish community of 185,000 and just yesterday read of a girl that has been missing for 8 years with no leads .
If you live in a large community , it is even more common .
Between pedophiles and girls being forced into prostitution I think this is a reasonable thing to do .
I have even read stories of forced prostitution rings in Iowa , so the problem is pretty wide spread .
Only you can decide what is an appropriate trade off between safety and security for your child .
You know your neighborhood and naivety of your child better than anyone blasting you on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As others have mentioned, a GPS enabled cell phone is the easiest option.
I think some of the responses were far less rational than your request.
I live in a small-ish community of 185,000 and just yesterday read of a girl that has been missing for 8 years with no leads.
If you live in a large community, it is even more common.
Between pedophiles and girls being forced into prostitution I think this is a reasonable thing to do.
I have even read stories of forced prostitution rings in Iowa, so the problem is pretty wide spread.
Only you can decide what is an appropriate trade off between safety and security for your child.
You know your neighborhood and naivety of your child better than anyone blasting you on Slashdot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174091</id>
	<title>what about the mapping side?</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1243852200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So lets assume you do have your child pinpointed, what would be the best way to identify exactly where the kid is? Preferably via webpage so you could use a  phone with browser...</p><p>Im thinking some sort of web-service where you could just plug in xy coordinates?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So lets assume you do have your child pinpointed , what would be the best way to identify exactly where the kid is ?
Preferably via webpage so you could use a phone with browser...Im thinking some sort of web-service where you could just plug in xy coordinates ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So lets assume you do have your child pinpointed, what would be the best way to identify exactly where the kid is?
Preferably via webpage so you could use a  phone with browser...Im thinking some sort of web-service where you could just plug in xy coordinates?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175975</id>
	<title>Let Her</title>
	<author>stonemetal</author>
	<datestamp>1243862100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let her beat you up a bit then get her arrested.  She can get one of those neat leg bracelets from the penal system.  Then the cops would know where she was a bring her home if she strayed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let her beat you up a bit then get her arrested .
She can get one of those neat leg bracelets from the penal system .
Then the cops would know where she was a bring her home if she strayed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let her beat you up a bit then get her arrested.
She can get one of those neat leg bracelets from the penal system.
Then the cops would know where she was a bring her home if she strayed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</id>
	<title>You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done. By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses. Fortunately, my daughter was located, with no thanks to the local school district.</p></div><p>The problem isn't that you don't have a tracking device for your daughter. The problem is that your local school district isn't doing its job correctly and regularly putting kids on the wrong bus. Instead of posting on Slashdot for a technical solution, a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system and admits to doing that regularly. Raise a stink at school board meetings, PTA meetings, and so forth. Get other parents involved. You're talking about a school district's incompetence endangering not only your own child but all the children in the district.</p><p>Pretend, for instance, that you get a perfect tracking device for your daughter. That sorta solves your problem, in that you can go and pick up your daughter from wherever she was left, but doesn't solve your neighbor's problem, and doesn't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she's standing around in a strange neighborhood.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter , I have decided that something needs to be done .
By the school district 's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses .
Fortunately , my daughter was located , with no thanks to the local school district.The problem is n't that you do n't have a tracking device for your daughter .
The problem is that your local school district is n't doing its job correctly and regularly putting kids on the wrong bus .
Instead of posting on Slashdot for a technical solution , a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system and admits to doing that regularly .
Raise a stink at school board meetings , PTA meetings , and so forth .
Get other parents involved .
You 're talking about a school district 's incompetence endangering not only your own child but all the children in the district.Pretend , for instance , that you get a perfect tracking device for your daughter .
That sorta solves your problem , in that you can go and pick up your daughter from wherever she was left , but does n't solve your neighbor 's problem , and does n't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she 's standing around in a strange neighborhood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done.
By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses.
Fortunately, my daughter was located, with no thanks to the local school district.The problem isn't that you don't have a tracking device for your daughter.
The problem is that your local school district isn't doing its job correctly and regularly putting kids on the wrong bus.
Instead of posting on Slashdot for a technical solution, a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system and admits to doing that regularly.
Raise a stink at school board meetings, PTA meetings, and so forth.
Get other parents involved.
You're talking about a school district's incompetence endangering not only your own child but all the children in the district.Pretend, for instance, that you get a perfect tracking device for your daughter.
That sorta solves your problem, in that you can go and pick up your daughter from wherever she was left, but doesn't solve your neighbor's problem, and doesn't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she's standing around in a strange neighborhood.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174673</id>
	<title>GPS tracking children</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243854660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you considered home schooling?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you considered home schooling ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you considered home schooling?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175333</id>
	<title>Using Cell ID, plus Wifi and GPS to track</title>
	<author>some1somewhere</author>
	<datestamp>1243857960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I created a system to track my car wherever it went, not quite tracking a kid, but to some people, almost as important<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)<br><a href="http://my.navizon.com/Webapps/UserAdmin/register.aspx?referral\_code=575C5B5E5658" title="navizon.com" rel="nofollow">Navizon</a> [navizon.com] actually is a good service. You make money on it if you have GPS attached (yes, that is a referral link, but bear with me a sec), but that is besides the point... GPS doesn't work in an urban jungle, and from my experience, parking my car in a multi-storey carpark and near the edges (so the GPS is could sort of get a line-of-sight) still wasn't good enough for GPS to work constantly.</p><p>So the way I use Navizon, is that you can set it to output its multi-tracking (GPS, then WIFI, then Cell ID, in that order, as each is less successively less accurate) service to a port on your device, and let OTHER GPS-related programs access that port, so when GPS is out-of-sight and not working, your GPS application continues to get relatively accurate positioning based on WIFI, and then failing that, triangulation based on the Cell IDs.</p><p>They also recently added in Fireagle (the Yahoo service) so that you can update your location via Twitter and whatever else works with Fireagle. And Navizon has it's own API besides Yahoo's open API if you want to play with that. So since you wanted to write your own app to view it on a website/domain (which you can either use very simply on Navizon's own site, or if yo want to get fancy and update via Twitter or others services, Fireagle integration) then you can.</p><p>I even though, if people put my car into a warehouse or even inside a container, at some point during it's travels, even if its sealed, it hopefully would get at least a Cell ID or Wifi position, so even without GPS it'll be functional. It won't be hugely accurate, but it'll set you in the right direction at least. And it doesn't rely on any carrier either, so it's carrier neutral too.</p><p>Good aye?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I created a system to track my car wherever it went , not quite tracking a kid , but to some people , almost as important ; - ) Navizon [ navizon.com ] actually is a good service .
You make money on it if you have GPS attached ( yes , that is a referral link , but bear with me a sec ) , but that is besides the point... GPS does n't work in an urban jungle , and from my experience , parking my car in a multi-storey carpark and near the edges ( so the GPS is could sort of get a line-of-sight ) still was n't good enough for GPS to work constantly.So the way I use Navizon , is that you can set it to output its multi-tracking ( GPS , then WIFI , then Cell ID , in that order , as each is less successively less accurate ) service to a port on your device , and let OTHER GPS-related programs access that port , so when GPS is out-of-sight and not working , your GPS application continues to get relatively accurate positioning based on WIFI , and then failing that , triangulation based on the Cell IDs.They also recently added in Fireagle ( the Yahoo service ) so that you can update your location via Twitter and whatever else works with Fireagle .
And Navizon has it 's own API besides Yahoo 's open API if you want to play with that .
So since you wanted to write your own app to view it on a website/domain ( which you can either use very simply on Navizon 's own site , or if yo want to get fancy and update via Twitter or others services , Fireagle integration ) then you can.I even though , if people put my car into a warehouse or even inside a container , at some point during it 's travels , even if its sealed , it hopefully would get at least a Cell ID or Wifi position , so even without GPS it 'll be functional .
It wo n't be hugely accurate , but it 'll set you in the right direction at least .
And it does n't rely on any carrier either , so it 's carrier neutral too.Good aye ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I created a system to track my car wherever it went, not quite tracking a kid, but to some people, almost as important ;-)Navizon [navizon.com] actually is a good service.
You make money on it if you have GPS attached (yes, that is a referral link, but bear with me a sec), but that is besides the point... GPS doesn't work in an urban jungle, and from my experience, parking my car in a multi-storey carpark and near the edges (so the GPS is could sort of get a line-of-sight) still wasn't good enough for GPS to work constantly.So the way I use Navizon, is that you can set it to output its multi-tracking (GPS, then WIFI, then Cell ID, in that order, as each is less successively less accurate) service to a port on your device, and let OTHER GPS-related programs access that port, so when GPS is out-of-sight and not working, your GPS application continues to get relatively accurate positioning based on WIFI, and then failing that, triangulation based on the Cell IDs.They also recently added in Fireagle (the Yahoo service) so that you can update your location via Twitter and whatever else works with Fireagle.
And Navizon has it's own API besides Yahoo's open API if you want to play with that.
So since you wanted to write your own app to view it on a website/domain (which you can either use very simply on Navizon's own site, or if yo want to get fancy and update via Twitter or others services, Fireagle integration) then you can.I even though, if people put my car into a warehouse or even inside a container, at some point during it's travels, even if its sealed, it hopefully would get at least a Cell ID or Wifi position, so even without GPS it'll be functional.
It won't be hugely accurate, but it'll set you in the right direction at least.
And it doesn't rely on any carrier either, so it's carrier neutral too.Good aye?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171531</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so that's how you found her at my house that evening?  mystery solved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so that 's how you found her at my house that evening ?
mystery solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so that's how you found her at my house that evening?
mystery solved.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172085</id>
	<title>Wrong Forum for this question</title>
	<author>Slate99</author>
	<datestamp>1243888140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You would assume that this would be a great place to have a civil discussion on technology providing safety for children.  Unfortunately that is not the case.  It has been my experience that the readers of this forum tend to be paranoid.  They are afraid of monitoring of any type, as you can tell from the many posts suggesting that you are somehow over reacting.

Big brother is mentioned more in the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. forum than anywhere else on the planet...  This is a group who really is afraid of having someone look at them without their knowledge and this overwhelming fear extends to others by proxy.

To actually answer your question; I can't help a lot.  I did some research last year on devices for my children and decided that a cell phone is not a bad idea, but, in my case, it is going to have to wait a few years so that the little ones can appreciate the value of the device and not lose it.  Check out what Verizon has to offer.  That is what I did.
     -I think a lot of the posters here have never known the heart dropping feeling of haveing a lost child (even for a minute)...  If they had, the posts would not have been so glib.  Good luck in your hunt.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You would assume that this would be a great place to have a civil discussion on technology providing safety for children .
Unfortunately that is not the case .
It has been my experience that the readers of this forum tend to be paranoid .
They are afraid of monitoring of any type , as you can tell from the many posts suggesting that you are somehow over reacting .
Big brother is mentioned more in the / .
forum than anywhere else on the planet... This is a group who really is afraid of having someone look at them without their knowledge and this overwhelming fear extends to others by proxy .
To actually answer your question ; I ca n't help a lot .
I did some research last year on devices for my children and decided that a cell phone is not a bad idea , but , in my case , it is going to have to wait a few years so that the little ones can appreciate the value of the device and not lose it .
Check out what Verizon has to offer .
That is what I did .
-I think a lot of the posters here have never known the heart dropping feeling of haveing a lost child ( even for a minute ) ... If they had , the posts would not have been so glib .
Good luck in your hunt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You would assume that this would be a great place to have a civil discussion on technology providing safety for children.
Unfortunately that is not the case.
It has been my experience that the readers of this forum tend to be paranoid.
They are afraid of monitoring of any type, as you can tell from the many posts suggesting that you are somehow over reacting.
Big brother is mentioned more in the /.
forum than anywhere else on the planet...  This is a group who really is afraid of having someone look at them without their knowledge and this overwhelming fear extends to others by proxy.
To actually answer your question; I can't help a lot.
I did some research last year on devices for my children and decided that a cell phone is not a bad idea, but, in my case, it is going to have to wait a few years so that the little ones can appreciate the value of the device and not lose it.
Check out what Verizon has to offer.
That is what I did.
-I think a lot of the posters here have never known the heart dropping feeling of haveing a lost child (even for a minute)...  If they had, the posts would not have been so glib.
Good luck in your hunt.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171429</id>
	<title>Please don't think of the children.</title>
	<author>Dutchmaan</author>
	<datestamp>1243885980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember folks, it's been said over and over and over again... First it will be tracking criminals, then it will be tracking children for their safety, then it will be tracking the general populous because they grew up with it.

</p><p>With technology come vigilance on how it's used and how it could *potentially* be used.

</p><p>Humanity, sliding down that slippery slope since 1984.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember folks , it 's been said over and over and over again... First it will be tracking criminals , then it will be tracking children for their safety , then it will be tracking the general populous because they grew up with it .
With technology come vigilance on how it 's used and how it could * potentially * be used .
Humanity , sliding down that slippery slope since 1984 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember folks, it's been said over and over and over again... First it will be tracking criminals, then it will be tracking children for their safety, then it will be tracking the general populous because they grew up with it.
With technology come vigilance on how it's used and how it could *potentially* be used.
Humanity, sliding down that slippery slope since 1984.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175273</id>
	<title>Get  your kid a phone</title>
	<author>Korin43</author>
	<datestamp>1243857720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Seriously, if you're that worried just get your kid a cell phone. If they get lost, they can call you. I got my first cell phone at the end of Junior High, and I primarily used it for calling parents. For my parents it only cost $10/month (Verizon family plan).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , if you 're that worried just get your kid a cell phone .
If they get lost , they can call you .
I got my first cell phone at the end of Junior High , and I primarily used it for calling parents .
For my parents it only cost $ 10/month ( Verizon family plan ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, if you're that worried just get your kid a cell phone.
If they get lost, they can call you.
I got my first cell phone at the end of Junior High, and I primarily used it for calling parents.
For my parents it only cost $10/month (Verizon family plan).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170919</id>
	<title>Here we go again...</title>
	<author>SebaSOFT</author>
	<datestamp>1243884120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and what about trowing such device in the back side of a truck and track your wife while is "going shopping"?</p><p>privacy concern people...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and what about trowing such device in the back side of a truck and track your wife while is " going shopping " ? privacy concern people.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and what about trowing such device in the back side of a truck and track your wife while is "going shopping"?privacy concern people...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172979</id>
	<title>Tracking</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243848300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If your child has a cell phone to call you in case of emergencies, then you can track it. At&amp;t has family Map, which costs $10 a month and can track two numbers.<br>https://familymap.wireless.att.com/finder-att-family/howWorks.htm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If your child has a cell phone to call you in case of emergencies , then you can track it .
At&amp;t has family Map , which costs $ 10 a month and can track two numbers.https : //familymap.wireless.att.com/finder-att-family/howWorks.htm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your child has a cell phone to call you in case of emergencies, then you can track it.
At&amp;t has family Map, which costs $10 a month and can track two numbers.https://familymap.wireless.att.com/finder-att-family/howWorks.htm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172207</id>
	<title>an alternative solution</title>
	<author>bitt3n</author>
	<datestamp>1243888500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I operate a business that may be able to help you: we're a group of seedy-looking middle-aged men who drive around in unmarked, windowless vans, following small children and offering them candy. For five dollars a month, you can call our dispatcher at any time to know where your child is, and whether he presently prefers sweet tarts or jawbreakers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I operate a business that may be able to help you : we 're a group of seedy-looking middle-aged men who drive around in unmarked , windowless vans , following small children and offering them candy .
For five dollars a month , you can call our dispatcher at any time to know where your child is , and whether he presently prefers sweet tarts or jawbreakers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I operate a business that may be able to help you: we're a group of seedy-looking middle-aged men who drive around in unmarked, windowless vans, following small children and offering them candy.
For five dollars a month, you can call our dispatcher at any time to know where your child is, and whether he presently prefers sweet tarts or jawbreakers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172849</id>
	<title>High tech not needed....K.I.S.S.</title>
	<author>rts008</author>
	<datestamp>1243847820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If she's old enough to ride a bus, she's old enough to remember a cell phone number...</p></div><p>If she can remember a cell phone number, why not have her memorize her bus number so none of this becomes an issue in the first place?</p><p>Treat the disease, not the symptoms!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If she 's old enough to ride a bus , she 's old enough to remember a cell phone number...If she can remember a cell phone number , why not have her memorize her bus number so none of this becomes an issue in the first place ? Treat the disease , not the symptoms !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If she's old enough to ride a bus, she's old enough to remember a cell phone number...If she can remember a cell phone number, why not have her memorize her bus number so none of this becomes an issue in the first place?Treat the disease, not the symptoms!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170987</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174617</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243854420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone know if there's some sort of service where you can call someone and have the GPS in your phone send your position to the person you're calling?<br> <br>

That way it's not like you're being tracked, but if you get lost you can give someone a call and say "I'm lost, but here are my coordinates."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone know if there 's some sort of service where you can call someone and have the GPS in your phone send your position to the person you 're calling ?
That way it 's not like you 're being tracked , but if you get lost you can give someone a call and say " I 'm lost , but here are my coordinates .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone know if there's some sort of service where you can call someone and have the GPS in your phone send your position to the person you're calling?
That way it's not like you're being tracked, but if you get lost you can give someone a call and say "I'm lost, but here are my coordinates.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170879</id>
	<title>Off the Shelf Option</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looks like it could fit in something smallish.</p><p><a href="http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/theft-recovery-asset-tracker.html" title="brickhousesecurity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/theft-recovery-asset-tracker.html</a> [brickhousesecurity.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like it could fit in something smallish.http : //www.brickhousesecurity.com/theft-recovery-asset-tracker.html [ brickhousesecurity.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like it could fit in something smallish.http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/theft-recovery-asset-tracker.html [brickhousesecurity.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170977</id>
	<title>Here's My Answer:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>STFU</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>STFU</tokentext>
<sentencetext>STFU</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175595</id>
	<title>GPS Tracking Explained</title>
	<author>BrianatSentry</author>
	<datestamp>1243859520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As someone that is actually in the GPS and child protection business, I can tell you a fair amount about the systems.

first, what you are looking for is actually A-GPS technology, or "Assisted" GPS.  The device will attempt to acquire it's position via GPS positioning.  This requires a view of the sky, the more open the better.  Some devices will be able to acquire a GPS fix from inside a building, but the quality of the signal will be much less and therefore the accuracy will suffer. Typically, you will have accuracy within 3 meters, but that can vary up to 50 meters depending on environmental factors.

The "assisted" part is that the GPS device then uses cellular technology to broadcast it's position back to a server, which in turn then displays the information via a web portal.  Obviously the device therefore also has to be within a cellular coverage area (most GPS devices on the market today utilize TMobile for a cellular provider, we are preparing to switch to AT&amp;T for a much better coverage area).

Additionally, since the devices are using cellular networks already, they have the ability to GSM location on top of the GPS location.  This helps eliminate the issue of no coverage indoors, but most devices on the market today do not have this feature enabled.

Then most device providers also offer additional services via their web portal when you access the tracking (though some companies try to charge more for these services).  You can do things such as geofencing (you may want to find a provider offering polygonal geofencing, as radial geofences can wind up encompassing a vast area that is really outside of the safe zone you are trying to create), breadcrumbing, speed warnings, etc...</htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone that is actually in the GPS and child protection business , I can tell you a fair amount about the systems .
first , what you are looking for is actually A-GPS technology , or " Assisted " GPS .
The device will attempt to acquire it 's position via GPS positioning .
This requires a view of the sky , the more open the better .
Some devices will be able to acquire a GPS fix from inside a building , but the quality of the signal will be much less and therefore the accuracy will suffer .
Typically , you will have accuracy within 3 meters , but that can vary up to 50 meters depending on environmental factors .
The " assisted " part is that the GPS device then uses cellular technology to broadcast it 's position back to a server , which in turn then displays the information via a web portal .
Obviously the device therefore also has to be within a cellular coverage area ( most GPS devices on the market today utilize TMobile for a cellular provider , we are preparing to switch to AT&amp;T for a much better coverage area ) .
Additionally , since the devices are using cellular networks already , they have the ability to GSM location on top of the GPS location .
This helps eliminate the issue of no coverage indoors , but most devices on the market today do not have this feature enabled .
Then most device providers also offer additional services via their web portal when you access the tracking ( though some companies try to charge more for these services ) .
You can do things such as geofencing ( you may want to find a provider offering polygonal geofencing , as radial geofences can wind up encompassing a vast area that is really outside of the safe zone you are trying to create ) , breadcrumbing , speed warnings , etc.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone that is actually in the GPS and child protection business, I can tell you a fair amount about the systems.
first, what you are looking for is actually A-GPS technology, or "Assisted" GPS.
The device will attempt to acquire it's position via GPS positioning.
This requires a view of the sky, the more open the better.
Some devices will be able to acquire a GPS fix from inside a building, but the quality of the signal will be much less and therefore the accuracy will suffer.
Typically, you will have accuracy within 3 meters, but that can vary up to 50 meters depending on environmental factors.
The "assisted" part is that the GPS device then uses cellular technology to broadcast it's position back to a server, which in turn then displays the information via a web portal.
Obviously the device therefore also has to be within a cellular coverage area (most GPS devices on the market today utilize TMobile for a cellular provider, we are preparing to switch to AT&amp;T for a much better coverage area).
Additionally, since the devices are using cellular networks already, they have the ability to GSM location on top of the GPS location.
This helps eliminate the issue of no coverage indoors, but most devices on the market today do not have this feature enabled.
Then most device providers also offer additional services via their web portal when you access the tracking (though some companies try to charge more for these services).
You can do things such as geofencing (you may want to find a provider offering polygonal geofencing, as radial geofences can wind up encompassing a vast area that is really outside of the safe zone you are trying to create), breadcrumbing, speed warnings, etc...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171641</id>
	<title>Some of us didn't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.</i></p><p>Some of us didn't. I did, and you did, but some people died who could have been saved by modern safety standards and today's technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really amazing how any of us , and humanity in general , ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety ' gear that is available now.Some of us did n't .
I did , and you did , but some people died who could have been saved by modern safety standards and today 's technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.Some of us didn't.
I did, and you did, but some people died who could have been saved by modern safety standards and today's technology.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175565</id>
	<title>Check out Zoombak</title>
	<author>Ronin Developer</author>
	<datestamp>1243859400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Zoombak device (http://www.zoombak.com) is about the size of hotel bar of soap.  It uses AGPS to acquire fixes and GSM to transmit the device's location.  It was originally conceived for use on pets, but was soon adopted for other needs.  The "Universal" device is probably what you are looking for (although they can't market the device for tracking children, I'm sure plenty of people do). I put one on my kid with ADHD when he goes on his scout trips.   He knows it's there.</p><p>There are other products on the market, but I think the Zoombak device is the most capable.  And, unlike products, it actually exists.</p><p>It provides a fix every 15 minutes and the rechargable battery life is about 5 days per charge.  You can log into their web portal and request "Find Nows" or enter a continuous track mode.</p><p>You can also access the device's location using SMS.  They have several models, Pet, Universal and Auto.  I'd recommend the Universal since it provides other attachments that make it useful as a generic tracker.</p><p>They also have special deal going right now - I think it's 3 months free if  you purchase the device.</p><p>Can you hack one of these devices or build your own?  Not really.  A lot of effort went into designing the device to obtain FCC certification - cell carriers in the US require that the device meet their specs before the device is allowed to attach to their network.</p><p>I'd recommend you obtain one of these devices and then bug the company to provide the other features you request.   Or, perhaps, ask if they have an OEM version and toolkit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Zoombak device ( http : //www.zoombak.com ) is about the size of hotel bar of soap .
It uses AGPS to acquire fixes and GSM to transmit the device 's location .
It was originally conceived for use on pets , but was soon adopted for other needs .
The " Universal " device is probably what you are looking for ( although they ca n't market the device for tracking children , I 'm sure plenty of people do ) .
I put one on my kid with ADHD when he goes on his scout trips .
He knows it 's there.There are other products on the market , but I think the Zoombak device is the most capable .
And , unlike products , it actually exists.It provides a fix every 15 minutes and the rechargable battery life is about 5 days per charge .
You can log into their web portal and request " Find Nows " or enter a continuous track mode.You can also access the device 's location using SMS .
They have several models , Pet , Universal and Auto .
I 'd recommend the Universal since it provides other attachments that make it useful as a generic tracker.They also have special deal going right now - I think it 's 3 months free if you purchase the device.Can you hack one of these devices or build your own ?
Not really .
A lot of effort went into designing the device to obtain FCC certification - cell carriers in the US require that the device meet their specs before the device is allowed to attach to their network.I 'd recommend you obtain one of these devices and then bug the company to provide the other features you request .
Or , perhaps , ask if they have an OEM version and toolkit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Zoombak device (http://www.zoombak.com) is about the size of hotel bar of soap.
It uses AGPS to acquire fixes and GSM to transmit the device's location.
It was originally conceived for use on pets, but was soon adopted for other needs.
The "Universal" device is probably what you are looking for (although they can't market the device for tracking children, I'm sure plenty of people do).
I put one on my kid with ADHD when he goes on his scout trips.
He knows it's there.There are other products on the market, but I think the Zoombak device is the most capable.
And, unlike products, it actually exists.It provides a fix every 15 minutes and the rechargable battery life is about 5 days per charge.
You can log into their web portal and request "Find Nows" or enter a continuous track mode.You can also access the device's location using SMS.
They have several models, Pet, Universal and Auto.
I'd recommend the Universal since it provides other attachments that make it useful as a generic tracker.They also have special deal going right now - I think it's 3 months free if  you purchase the device.Can you hack one of these devices or build your own?
Not really.
A lot of effort went into designing the device to obtain FCC certification - cell carriers in the US require that the device meet their specs before the device is allowed to attach to their network.I'd recommend you obtain one of these devices and then bug the company to provide the other features you request.
Or, perhaps, ask if they have an OEM version and toolkit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173243</id>
	<title>DIY</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243849260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://hackaday.com/2009/05/08/whereavr-aprs-tracker/" title="hackaday.com" rel="nofollow">Here's a DIY solution</a> [hackaday.com] since every other comment I've read said to buy a cellphone.  There's also a link on that page to another project that did gps tracking and worked in the middle of nowhere using shortwave radio.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a DIY solution [ hackaday.com ] since every other comment I 've read said to buy a cellphone .
There 's also a link on that page to another project that did gps tracking and worked in the middle of nowhere using shortwave radio .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a DIY solution [hackaday.com] since every other comment I've read said to buy a cellphone.
There's also a link on that page to another project that did gps tracking and worked in the middle of nowhere using shortwave radio.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170991</id>
	<title>Simple solution</title>
	<author>Topwiz</author>
	<datestamp>1243884360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Our school has a separate line inside the building for each bus. All the children know where they are supposed to go to get in line. There is an adult at the head of each line that makes sure they go to the correct bus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our school has a separate line inside the building for each bus .
All the children know where they are supposed to go to get in line .
There is an adult at the head of each line that makes sure they go to the correct bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our school has a separate line inside the building for each bus.
All the children know where they are supposed to go to get in line.
There is an adult at the head of each line that makes sure they go to the correct bus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170861</id>
	<title>GPS + SMS.</title>
	<author>0100010001010011</author>
	<datestamp>1243883940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You probably don't want it continually transmitting. Easiest way would be to it respond to a 'ping'. <a href="http://www.mightygps.com/smsgps.htm" title="mightygps.com">http://www.mightygps.com/smsgps.htm</a> [mightygps.com] looks to fit the bill perfectly. There are probably cheaper <a href="http://www.chinavasion.com/product\_info.php/pName/gps-tracker-with-sms-message/" title="chinavasion.com">Chinese clones.</a> [chinavasion.com]</p><p>Get it a SIM card and you'll be able to track her anywhere there's AT&amp;T Signal (so you're equally fucked anyway). Google Maps API kicks ass. It's not hard to write some code to take that SMS and turn it into a dot on a map.<br>-<br>However I agree with the other posters. Your kid's fine. How many kids have they PERMANENTLY lost? So the kid gets on the wrong bus. Teach your daughter English and she should be able to find out where she is at any time.</p><p>Reminds me of the mother who caught a ton of flack for letting her young son find his own way home (he asked to) from a big store in NYC.</p><p>The people that want to rape and molest your daughter statistically are yourself or one of your brothers(-in-law)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You probably do n't want it continually transmitting .
Easiest way would be to it respond to a 'ping' .
http : //www.mightygps.com/smsgps.htm [ mightygps.com ] looks to fit the bill perfectly .
There are probably cheaper Chinese clones .
[ chinavasion.com ] Get it a SIM card and you 'll be able to track her anywhere there 's AT&amp;T Signal ( so you 're equally fucked anyway ) .
Google Maps API kicks ass .
It 's not hard to write some code to take that SMS and turn it into a dot on a map.-However I agree with the other posters .
Your kid 's fine .
How many kids have they PERMANENTLY lost ?
So the kid gets on the wrong bus .
Teach your daughter English and she should be able to find out where she is at any time.Reminds me of the mother who caught a ton of flack for letting her young son find his own way home ( he asked to ) from a big store in NYC.The people that want to rape and molest your daughter statistically are yourself or one of your brothers ( -in-law )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You probably don't want it continually transmitting.
Easiest way would be to it respond to a 'ping'.
http://www.mightygps.com/smsgps.htm [mightygps.com] looks to fit the bill perfectly.
There are probably cheaper Chinese clones.
[chinavasion.com]Get it a SIM card and you'll be able to track her anywhere there's AT&amp;T Signal (so you're equally fucked anyway).
Google Maps API kicks ass.
It's not hard to write some code to take that SMS and turn it into a dot on a map.-However I agree with the other posters.
Your kid's fine.
How many kids have they PERMANENTLY lost?
So the kid gets on the wrong bus.
Teach your daughter English and she should be able to find out where she is at any time.Reminds me of the mother who caught a ton of flack for letting her young son find his own way home (he asked to) from a big store in NYC.The people that want to rape and molest your daughter statistically are yourself or one of your brothers(-in-law)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174043</id>
	<title>Too much technology, not enough common sense.</title>
	<author>element-o.p.</author>
	<datestamp>1243852080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Take her to school and pick her up afterwards yourself?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Take her to school and pick her up afterwards yourself ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take her to school and pick her up afterwards yourself?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177313</id>
	<title>Re:This is why Home Schooling is better</title>
	<author>nausea\_malvarma</author>
	<datestamp>1243873500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Why was this modded troll? This person is not trying to cause trouble. They are giving legitimate advice, and trying to be helpful.
</p><p>
I have to say though, homeschooling has it's faults. Not everybody is knowledgeable enough to instruct a kid in every subject, and not every parent can stay at home to be teacher all day. I don't like the way schools are run, but I recognize how hard it is to actually make homeschooling work.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why was this modded troll ?
This person is not trying to cause trouble .
They are giving legitimate advice , and trying to be helpful .
I have to say though , homeschooling has it 's faults .
Not everybody is knowledgeable enough to instruct a kid in every subject , and not every parent can stay at home to be teacher all day .
I do n't like the way schools are run , but I recognize how hard it is to actually make homeschooling work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Why was this modded troll?
This person is not trying to cause trouble.
They are giving legitimate advice, and trying to be helpful.
I have to say though, homeschooling has it's faults.
Not everybody is knowledgeable enough to instruct a kid in every subject, and not every parent can stay at home to be teacher all day.
I don't like the way schools are run, but I recognize how hard it is to actually make homeschooling work.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170895</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171903</id>
	<title>Wow.  Just... wow.</title>
	<author>ddillman</author>
	<datestamp>1243887540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am SO glad I'm not your kid.  Yeah, its nice you care about your child and where they are, but this is so far above and beyond, I can't begin to express.  Did your parents track your every move?  If so, how did that make you feel?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am SO glad I 'm not your kid .
Yeah , its nice you care about your child and where they are , but this is so far above and beyond , I ca n't begin to express .
Did your parents track your every move ?
If so , how did that make you feel ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am SO glad I'm not your kid.
Yeah, its nice you care about your child and where they are, but this is so far above and beyond, I can't begin to express.
Did your parents track your every move?
If so, how did that make you feel?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171213</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>1u3hr</author>
	<datestamp>1243885140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>nd doesn't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she's standing around in a strange neighborhood.</i> <p>
The solution to that is tell the kid DON'T GET OFF THE BUS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE. A school bus driver is not going to dump toddlers on a street corner, worst case she rides back to the depot and gets another bus or waits till you can pick her up. The driver has a radio or cell phone and will let the school know, and they'll tell you. No need for surgical implants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nd does n't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she 's standing around in a strange neighborhood .
The solution to that is tell the kid DO N'T GET OFF THE BUS IF YOU DO N'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE .
A school bus driver is not going to dump toddlers on a street corner , worst case she rides back to the depot and gets another bus or waits till you can pick her up .
The driver has a radio or cell phone and will let the school know , and they 'll tell you .
No need for surgical implants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nd doesn't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she's standing around in a strange neighborhood.
The solution to that is tell the kid DON'T GET OFF THE BUS IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE.
A school bus driver is not going to dump toddlers on a street corner, worst case she rides back to the depot and gets another bus or waits till you can pick her up.
The driver has a radio or cell phone and will let the school know, and they'll tell you.
No need for surgical implants.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172865</id>
	<title>Why not just give her a cell phone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243847880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't Cell phones these days offer GPS capabilities and the option to let "friends" track them?</p><p>Make it a nifty phone loaded with the kind of games that children love and adults loathe, and you can rest assured that between the texting to friends and the accessorizing/customization of the phone, it will *never* leave her side.  She'll probably think you're the coolest parent on Earth.  Besides being able to call you in case of emergency, and you being able to potentially call her in case that she's out later than expected... and if you really get worried, I DO believe that some services make it possible to display the phone's location on an internet map.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't Cell phones these days offer GPS capabilities and the option to let " friends " track them ? Make it a nifty phone loaded with the kind of games that children love and adults loathe , and you can rest assured that between the texting to friends and the accessorizing/customization of the phone , it will * never * leave her side .
She 'll probably think you 're the coolest parent on Earth .
Besides being able to call you in case of emergency , and you being able to potentially call her in case that she 's out later than expected... and if you really get worried , I DO believe that some services make it possible to display the phone 's location on an internet map .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't Cell phones these days offer GPS capabilities and the option to let "friends" track them?Make it a nifty phone loaded with the kind of games that children love and adults loathe, and you can rest assured that between the texting to friends and the accessorizing/customization of the phone, it will *never* leave her side.
She'll probably think you're the coolest parent on Earth.
Besides being able to call you in case of emergency, and you being able to potentially call her in case that she's out later than expected... and if you really get worried, I DO believe that some services make it possible to display the phone's location on an internet map.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28210469</id>
	<title>PROTECT YOUR FAMILY!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244133900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love how technology totally defeats the purpose of parenting.</p><p>If my parent made me wear a beacon, I would shatter it.</p><p>And I would shatter the replacement unit.</p><p>Save some money and just trust that your daughter is really at class, or volleyball, or the mall.</p><p>She's going to hate you eventually anyway, so why not speed up the process? Please do this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love how technology totally defeats the purpose of parenting.If my parent made me wear a beacon , I would shatter it.And I would shatter the replacement unit.Save some money and just trust that your daughter is really at class , or volleyball , or the mall.She 's going to hate you eventually anyway , so why not speed up the process ?
Please do this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love how technology totally defeats the purpose of parenting.If my parent made me wear a beacon, I would shatter it.And I would shatter the replacement unit.Save some money and just trust that your daughter is really at class, or volleyball, or the mall.She's going to hate you eventually anyway, so why not speed up the process?
Please do this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175049</id>
	<title>Life on Earth</title>
	<author>Attila the Bun</author>
	<datestamp>1243856460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My name is Sam Tyler. I was born in 1973, and my parents never fitted me with a tracking device. Were they mad, in a coma, or back in time? Whatever happened, it's like things worked out anyway. Now, maybe if I can work out the buses, I can get home.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My name is Sam Tyler .
I was born in 1973 , and my parents never fitted me with a tracking device .
Were they mad , in a coma , or back in time ?
Whatever happened , it 's like things worked out anyway .
Now , maybe if I can work out the buses , I can get home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My name is Sam Tyler.
I was born in 1973, and my parents never fitted me with a tracking device.
Were they mad, in a coma, or back in time?
Whatever happened, it's like things worked out anyway.
Now, maybe if I can work out the buses, I can get home.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171105</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>DaveV1.0</author>
	<datestamp>1243884780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the time I was in grade school until I started driving, I and all my bus-riding classmates had to <b>remember</b> our bus number. No "bus passes", no boarding stations, etc. We would get out of class, go out to where the buses were, find the bus, and get on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the time I was in grade school until I started driving , I and all my bus-riding classmates had to remember our bus number .
No " bus passes " , no boarding stations , etc .
We would get out of class , go out to where the buses were , find the bus , and get on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the time I was in grade school until I started driving, I and all my bus-riding classmates had to remember our bus number.
No "bus passes", no boarding stations, etc.
We would get out of class, go out to where the buses were, find the bus, and get on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170895</id>
	<title>This is why Home Schooling is better</title>
	<author>Attila Dimedici</author>
	<datestamp>1243884060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an easy solution, take your child out of the care of these incompetents and educate her yourself. <br>
This is not entirely facetious. If the school can't even pay enough attention to your child to make sure that she gets on the correct bus, what makes you think they are paying enough attention to make sure that she is learning anything?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an easy solution , take your child out of the care of these incompetents and educate her yourself .
This is not entirely facetious .
If the school ca n't even pay enough attention to your child to make sure that she gets on the correct bus , what makes you think they are paying enough attention to make sure that she is learning anything ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an easy solution, take your child out of the care of these incompetents and educate her yourself.
This is not entirely facetious.
If the school can't even pay enough attention to your child to make sure that she gets on the correct bus, what makes you think they are paying enough attention to make sure that she is learning anything?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28186285</id>
	<title>Get her an iphone jailbroken and...</title>
	<author>alexandre\_ganso</author>
	<datestamp>1243973880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Findmyi.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Findmyi.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Findmyi.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</id>
	<title>Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243883820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I was in middle school they gave all the kids a laminated bus pass with the bus number in big block type, and had the bus numbers spray painted on the sidewalk so everyone who had to ride the bus knew exactly where to line up.  Nobody ever got on the wrong bus because nobody ever got in the wrong line.  So why is this a recurring problem for your daughter's school district?<br> <br>
I say make them fix the problem instead of forcing you to shell out money to cover it up for them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in middle school they gave all the kids a laminated bus pass with the bus number in big block type , and had the bus numbers spray painted on the sidewalk so everyone who had to ride the bus knew exactly where to line up .
Nobody ever got on the wrong bus because nobody ever got in the wrong line .
So why is this a recurring problem for your daughter 's school district ?
I say make them fix the problem instead of forcing you to shell out money to cover it up for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in middle school they gave all the kids a laminated bus pass with the bus number in big block type, and had the bus numbers spray painted on the sidewalk so everyone who had to ride the bus knew exactly where to line up.
Nobody ever got on the wrong bus because nobody ever got in the wrong line.
So why is this a recurring problem for your daughter's school district?
I say make them fix the problem instead of forcing you to shell out money to cover it up for them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171391</id>
	<title>How old is this child?</title>
	<author>anyGould</author>
	<datestamp>1243885860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are we talking about a five year old? Eight? Ten? Fifteen?</p><p>The range of options varies with age. None of which involve tracking your child to a three-foot radius, btw.</p><p>By age 8, your kid should know which bus they're supposed to be on. (Probably earlier, but for the sake of argument.)</p><p>If younger, then you should be addressing it with the school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are we talking about a five year old ?
Eight ? Ten ?
Fifteen ? The range of options varies with age .
None of which involve tracking your child to a three-foot radius , btw.By age 8 , your kid should know which bus they 're supposed to be on .
( Probably earlier , but for the sake of argument .
) If younger , then you should be addressing it with the school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are we talking about a five year old?
Eight? Ten?
Fifteen?The range of options varies with age.
None of which involve tracking your child to a three-foot radius, btw.By age 8, your kid should know which bus they're supposed to be on.
(Probably earlier, but for the sake of argument.
)If younger, then you should be addressing it with the school.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172197</id>
	<title>Authority problems</title>
	<author>mveloso</author>
	<datestamp>1243888440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi Blowhard66,</p><p>What happens when your kid says "I'm on the wrong bus" and the driver/proctor/whatever says "no you're not, sit there."</p><p>In 99.99\% of the cases, the child will sit there on the wrong bus.</p><p>You have a grasp of childhood cognition that isn't so great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi Blowhard66,What happens when your kid says " I 'm on the wrong bus " and the driver/proctor/whatever says " no you 're not , sit there .
" In 99.99 \ % of the cases , the child will sit there on the wrong bus.You have a grasp of childhood cognition that is n't so great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi Blowhard66,What happens when your kid says "I'm on the wrong bus" and the driver/proctor/whatever says "no you're not, sit there.
"In 99.99\% of the cases, the child will sit there on the wrong bus.You have a grasp of childhood cognition that isn't so great.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171307</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172093</id>
	<title>What other recommendations do you have?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Teach your daughter. If she can tell who she is, where she lives, maybe a phone number... then she can, with the help of someone older than her, <b>find you</b>.</p><p>You are looking at it the wrong way. Unless you inplant the device in her body (not something I advise, maintanance and stuff), she can/will lose it.</p><p>If she can find you, this problem doesn't exist.</p><p>A man/woman with the wrong ideas will probably plant the device in some strangers pocket when he/she discovers it.</p><p>Also, having to wear a tracking device is a punishment in my country. Only jailtime is harsher. If I had to wear such a thing as a child, I'd become paranoid. Or maybe I'd get a false feeling of security ("they will come and get me if I get stuck somewhere") and go on adventure trips on my own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Teach your daughter .
If she can tell who she is , where she lives , maybe a phone number... then she can , with the help of someone older than her , find you.You are looking at it the wrong way .
Unless you inplant the device in her body ( not something I advise , maintanance and stuff ) , she can/will lose it.If she can find you , this problem does n't exist.A man/woman with the wrong ideas will probably plant the device in some strangers pocket when he/she discovers it.Also , having to wear a tracking device is a punishment in my country .
Only jailtime is harsher .
If I had to wear such a thing as a child , I 'd become paranoid .
Or maybe I 'd get a false feeling of security ( " they will come and get me if I get stuck somewhere " ) and go on adventure trips on my own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Teach your daughter.
If she can tell who she is, where she lives, maybe a phone number... then she can, with the help of someone older than her, find you.You are looking at it the wrong way.
Unless you inplant the device in her body (not something I advise, maintanance and stuff), she can/will lose it.If she can find you, this problem doesn't exist.A man/woman with the wrong ideas will probably plant the device in some strangers pocket when he/she discovers it.Also, having to wear a tracking device is a punishment in my country.
Only jailtime is harsher.
If I had to wear such a thing as a child, I'd become paranoid.
Or maybe I'd get a false feeling of security ("they will come and get me if I get stuck somewhere") and go on adventure trips on my own.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170927</id>
	<title>Laipac Tech Makes one</title>
	<author>par0dox</author>
	<datestamp>1243884180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>GPS Personal Tracker

<a href="http://www.laipac.com/personal\_locator\_gps.htm" title="laipac.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.laipac.com/personal\_locator\_gps.htm</a> [laipac.com]

No personal experience with the device but some with the company.</htmltext>
<tokenext>GPS Personal Tracker http : //www.laipac.com/personal \ _locator \ _gps.htm [ laipac.com ] No personal experience with the device but some with the company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GPS Personal Tracker

http://www.laipac.com/personal\_locator\_gps.htm [laipac.com]

No personal experience with the device but some with the company.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171387</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>mikael\_j</author>
	<datestamp>1243885800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was a kid we rode the regular city buses, never heard of any major problems with this, no huge signs, no permanent marker, no GPS locator devices.</p><p>Parents today are overly nervous, if they are so scared of the environment in which they are bringing up their children then maybe they (and the OP) should consider moving somewhere safer?</p><p>/Mikael</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was a kid we rode the regular city buses , never heard of any major problems with this , no huge signs , no permanent marker , no GPS locator devices.Parents today are overly nervous , if they are so scared of the environment in which they are bringing up their children then maybe they ( and the OP ) should consider moving somewhere safer ? /Mikael</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was a kid we rode the regular city buses, never heard of any major problems with this, no huge signs, no permanent marker, no GPS locator devices.Parents today are overly nervous, if they are so scared of the environment in which they are bringing up their children then maybe they (and the OP) should consider moving somewhere safer?/Mikael</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28176307</id>
	<title>APRS is free and easy</title>
	<author>wigger</author>
	<datestamp>1243864920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php" title="byonics.com" rel="nofollow">http://byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php</a> [byonics.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php [ byonics.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php [byonics.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28191331</id>
	<title>Wherify GPS</title>
	<author>amxcoder</author>
	<datestamp>1243959000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Several years ago, there was a company called "Wherify" that made a GPS enabled wrist-watch device for this purpose.  You could put it on your kid, and it it locked on with a key so it couldn't be removed (it also had a cut-resistant band to help thwart would be kidnappers).  You could see your childs location from any web-browser.  You could set way-points in so that if you're kid was supposed to be home at 3pm afterschool, and they didn't show up, you would be notified by email.  It also had a "panic" feature on it that would allow the child to activate if something bad did happen, that would cause the GPS coordinates to be sent to a dispatcher and you for immediate action.  It was water proof etc.  Sounds exactly like what you're looking for.

Here is a link to it, but I don't know if their sold anymore...
<a href="http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html" title="brickhousesecurity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html</a> [brickhousesecurity.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Several years ago , there was a company called " Wherify " that made a GPS enabled wrist-watch device for this purpose .
You could put it on your kid , and it it locked on with a key so it could n't be removed ( it also had a cut-resistant band to help thwart would be kidnappers ) .
You could see your childs location from any web-browser .
You could set way-points in so that if you 're kid was supposed to be home at 3pm afterschool , and they did n't show up , you would be notified by email .
It also had a " panic " feature on it that would allow the child to activate if something bad did happen , that would cause the GPS coordinates to be sent to a dispatcher and you for immediate action .
It was water proof etc .
Sounds exactly like what you 're looking for .
Here is a link to it , but I do n't know if their sold anymore.. . http : //www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html [ brickhousesecurity.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Several years ago, there was a company called "Wherify" that made a GPS enabled wrist-watch device for this purpose.
You could put it on your kid, and it it locked on with a key so it couldn't be removed (it also had a cut-resistant band to help thwart would be kidnappers).
You could see your childs location from any web-browser.
You could set way-points in so that if you're kid was supposed to be home at 3pm afterschool, and they didn't show up, you would be notified by email.
It also had a "panic" feature on it that would allow the child to activate if something bad did happen, that would cause the GPS coordinates to be sent to a dispatcher and you for immediate action.
It was water proof etc.
Sounds exactly like what you're looking for.
Here is a link to it, but I don't know if their sold anymore...
http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html [brickhousesecurity.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171085</id>
	<title>LoJack Panties?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Billy Crystal used to joke about wanting to install LoJack in his daughters panties. Its a sad day when someone in the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. crowd wants such a device for reals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Billy Crystal used to joke about wanting to install LoJack in his daughters panties .
Its a sad day when someone in the / .
crowd wants such a device for reals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Billy Crystal used to joke about wanting to install LoJack in his daughters panties.
Its a sad day when someone in the /.
crowd wants such a device for reals.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172265</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>This one [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.</p></div></blockquote><p>You know, I'm a little scared of that link.</p><p>I find it terribly scary that it is possible that a public web-site can look up any cell number, even if the owner of that number has never been asked if that information could be used.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This one [ themobiletracker.com ] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife , anyway.You know , I 'm a little scared of that link.I find it terribly scary that it is possible that a public web-site can look up any cell number , even if the owner of that number has never been asked if that information could be used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This one [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.You know, I'm a little scared of that link.I find it terribly scary that it is possible that a public web-site can look up any cell number, even if the owner of that number has never been asked if that information could be used.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171487</id>
	<title>hey slashdot</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1243886220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>we're talking about a CHILD here. no creeping big brother implied</p><p>it is perfectly ok to track a child by GPS. how can i say such a horrible thing? because we are talking about... yes, you guessed it, a CHILD. it makes a difference. there is no slippery slope: your average intelligence human being can tell the difference between an adult and a child when it comes to accountability and responsibility. as such THERE IS NO SLIPPERY SLOPE. you do not have a monopoly on perceiving common sense obvious differences</p><p>if a kid kills your prized rose bushes, who do you go after? the parents. why? because, legally, morally, and logically, a child's actions are the responsibility and accountability of their parents, because a child is not mentally mature enough to be responsible or accountable. sure there are rare moral savants, 8 year olds who are more accountable and responsible than some 28 year olds, and all children display moments of clarity and lucidity that are adult-level. but on the average, they tend to royally fuck up and make huge mistakes, especially in regard to peer pressure, panic, etc. thus the parent's role in this whole accountability and responsibility thing</p><p>but i await the typical fear-addled slippery slope arguments anyways</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>we 're talking about a CHILD here .
no creeping big brother impliedit is perfectly ok to track a child by GPS .
how can i say such a horrible thing ?
because we are talking about... yes , you guessed it , a CHILD .
it makes a difference .
there is no slippery slope : your average intelligence human being can tell the difference between an adult and a child when it comes to accountability and responsibility .
as such THERE IS NO SLIPPERY SLOPE .
you do not have a monopoly on perceiving common sense obvious differencesif a kid kills your prized rose bushes , who do you go after ?
the parents .
why ? because , legally , morally , and logically , a child 's actions are the responsibility and accountability of their parents , because a child is not mentally mature enough to be responsible or accountable .
sure there are rare moral savants , 8 year olds who are more accountable and responsible than some 28 year olds , and all children display moments of clarity and lucidity that are adult-level .
but on the average , they tend to royally fuck up and make huge mistakes , especially in regard to peer pressure , panic , etc .
thus the parent 's role in this whole accountability and responsibility thingbut i await the typical fear-addled slippery slope arguments anyways</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we're talking about a CHILD here.
no creeping big brother impliedit is perfectly ok to track a child by GPS.
how can i say such a horrible thing?
because we are talking about... yes, you guessed it, a CHILD.
it makes a difference.
there is no slippery slope: your average intelligence human being can tell the difference between an adult and a child when it comes to accountability and responsibility.
as such THERE IS NO SLIPPERY SLOPE.
you do not have a monopoly on perceiving common sense obvious differencesif a kid kills your prized rose bushes, who do you go after?
the parents.
why? because, legally, morally, and logically, a child's actions are the responsibility and accountability of their parents, because a child is not mentally mature enough to be responsible or accountable.
sure there are rare moral savants, 8 year olds who are more accountable and responsible than some 28 year olds, and all children display moments of clarity and lucidity that are adult-level.
but on the average, they tend to royally fuck up and make huge mistakes, especially in regard to peer pressure, panic, etc.
thus the parent's role in this whole accountability and responsibility thingbut i await the typical fear-addled slippery slope arguments anyways</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170855</id>
	<title>Drive her</title>
	<author>MBCook</author>
	<datestamp>1243883880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not just drive her to and from school yourself? That would provide additional time with your daughter as well.</p><p>You wouldn't have to trust the school to not lose her on the bus system</p><p>You don't need a subcutaneous lo-jack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not just drive her to and from school yourself ?
That would provide additional time with your daughter as well.You would n't have to trust the school to not lose her on the bus systemYou do n't need a subcutaneous lo-jack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not just drive her to and from school yourself?
That would provide additional time with your daughter as well.You wouldn't have to trust the school to not lose her on the bus systemYou don't need a subcutaneous lo-jack.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171017</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>DaveV1.0</author>
	<datestamp>1243884540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But, but, that might actually solve the problem for everyone! We can't have that. Besides, he wouldn't get to play with his computers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But , but , that might actually solve the problem for everyone !
We ca n't have that .
Besides , he would n't get to play with his computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But, but, that might actually solve the problem for everyone!
We can't have that.
Besides, he wouldn't get to play with his computers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171379</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1243885800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Instead of posting on Slashdot for a technical solution, a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system</p>  </div><p>Except that he can solve his problem for his child within a couple days, whereas the political or public approach will take years.  She will be far to savvy to track by the time a social solution can be found.</p><p>Its all well and good to self righteously posture here on slashdot about how easy it is to humiliate a school district into doing something you want them to do.</p><p>Its also obvious as hell that you have no kids and have not dealt with a school district in any capacity since you graduated from High School.</p><p>Go home.<br>Make a bowl of Jello.<br>Poke your finger into it up to the second knuckle.<br>Pull finger out.<br>See how HUGE and obvious that hole is?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Instead of posting on Slashdot for a technical solution , a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system Except that he can solve his problem for his child within a couple days , whereas the political or public approach will take years .
She will be far to savvy to track by the time a social solution can be found.Its all well and good to self righteously posture here on slashdot about how easy it is to humiliate a school district into doing something you want them to do.Its also obvious as hell that you have no kids and have not dealt with a school district in any capacity since you graduated from High School.Go home.Make a bowl of Jello.Poke your finger into it up to the second knuckle.Pull finger out.See how HUGE and obvious that hole is ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Instead of posting on Slashdot for a technical solution, a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system  Except that he can solve his problem for his child within a couple days, whereas the political or public approach will take years.
She will be far to savvy to track by the time a social solution can be found.Its all well and good to self righteously posture here on slashdot about how easy it is to humiliate a school district into doing something you want them to do.Its also obvious as hell that you have no kids and have not dealt with a school district in any capacity since you graduated from High School.Go home.Make a bowl of Jello.Poke your finger into it up to the second knuckle.Pull finger out.See how HUGE and obvious that hole is?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171911</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>okay there is a story behind that begging to be told.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>okay there is a story behind that begging to be told .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>okay there is a story behind that begging to be told.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174933</id>
	<title>And here I was thinking</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1243855800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>I think that you and many other people are missing the real problem.  Elementary school children can be as young as four at the start of kindergarten.   Elementary schools are just too big these days!.One elementary school in my town has several thousand students. That is just insane.Schools should start small and grow in size. The elementary school should be in your neighborhood. The idea of shipping kindergarten kids like UPS packages to child warehouses is the problem.Of course to build more but smaller schools costs money.....</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that you and many other people are missing the real problem .
Elementary school children can be as young as four at the start of kindergarten .
Elementary schools are just too big these days ! .One elementary school in my town has several thousand students .
That is just insane.Schools should start small and grow in size .
The elementary school should be in your neighborhood .
The idea of shipping kindergarten kids like UPS packages to child warehouses is the problem.Of course to build more but smaller schools costs money.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that you and many other people are missing the real problem.
Elementary school children can be as young as four at the start of kindergarten.
Elementary schools are just too big these days!.One elementary school in my town has several thousand students.
That is just insane.Schools should start small and grow in size.
The elementary school should be in your neighborhood.
The idea of shipping kindergarten kids like UPS packages to child warehouses is the problem.Of course to build more but smaller schools costs money.....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172683</id>
	<title>GPS Cell Phone &amp; Google Maps</title>
	<author>gillkm</author>
	<datestamp>1243847160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A while back when I had a blackberry I wrote a simple background app that went and updated the GPS every few minutes and made a HTTP request to my webserver with the coordinates. On the server, I made another page that simply overlaid the points on Google Maps. At the time I used it primarily to track where I was walking my dog (mainly to satisfy curiosity when I want to know where or how far we went). My wife actually pulled it up once while I was out on a walk when she wanted to come get us for something so she didn't have to go driving around searching for us (or so she says<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) ).</p><p>It was a really simple set up (I think i had it working in an hour or so), and i'm sure you could put something together for a smaller phone if you don't want to get a berry for your daughter. I don't have the code anymore, otherwise I'd post a link... I'll look around for it, probably on a thumbdrive somewhere)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A while back when I had a blackberry I wrote a simple background app that went and updated the GPS every few minutes and made a HTTP request to my webserver with the coordinates .
On the server , I made another page that simply overlaid the points on Google Maps .
At the time I used it primarily to track where I was walking my dog ( mainly to satisfy curiosity when I want to know where or how far we went ) .
My wife actually pulled it up once while I was out on a walk when she wanted to come get us for something so she did n't have to go driving around searching for us ( or so she says : ) ) .It was a really simple set up ( I think i had it working in an hour or so ) , and i 'm sure you could put something together for a smaller phone if you do n't want to get a berry for your daughter .
I do n't have the code anymore , otherwise I 'd post a link... I 'll look around for it , probably on a thumbdrive somewhere )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A while back when I had a blackberry I wrote a simple background app that went and updated the GPS every few minutes and made a HTTP request to my webserver with the coordinates.
On the server, I made another page that simply overlaid the points on Google Maps.
At the time I used it primarily to track where I was walking my dog (mainly to satisfy curiosity when I want to know where or how far we went).
My wife actually pulled it up once while I was out on a walk when she wanted to come get us for something so she didn't have to go driving around searching for us (or so she says :) ).It was a really simple set up (I think i had it working in an hour or so), and i'm sure you could put something together for a smaller phone if you don't want to get a berry for your daughter.
I don't have the code anymore, otherwise I'd post a link... I'll look around for it, probably on a thumbdrive somewhere)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28179809</id>
	<title>For fucks sake</title>
	<author>Fizzl</author>
	<datestamp>1243944180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jesus christ. Do not go down the slippery slope of person tracking. Your daughter just learned a lesson: check for yourself if you are going to the righ tbus. This scenario will not play again because your unique biological learning device just got smarter.<br>I have a 4 year old daughter. I try to explain why I forbid certain things. In the end, I let her hurt herself doing something stupid, as that seems to be the most efficient way of bringing the lecture to the lasting memory. "See, this is exactly what I was talking about, remember?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus christ .
Do not go down the slippery slope of person tracking .
Your daughter just learned a lesson : check for yourself if you are going to the righ tbus .
This scenario will not play again because your unique biological learning device just got smarter.I have a 4 year old daughter .
I try to explain why I forbid certain things .
In the end , I let her hurt herself doing something stupid , as that seems to be the most efficient way of bringing the lecture to the lasting memory .
" See , this is exactly what I was talking about , remember ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus christ.
Do not go down the slippery slope of person tracking.
Your daughter just learned a lesson: check for yourself if you are going to the righ tbus.
This scenario will not play again because your unique biological learning device just got smarter.I have a 4 year old daughter.
I try to explain why I forbid certain things.
In the end, I let her hurt herself doing something stupid, as that seems to be the most efficient way of bringing the lecture to the lasting memory.
"See, this is exactly what I was talking about, remember?
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172707</id>
	<title>Re:Solve it for everyone</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1243847280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, solve the problem for everyone's child at the same time.  Ask them what their current system is, and how they intend to fix it.  Bring several of these suggestions to the table, including the low-tech ones, and let them know that it is not acceptable to lose children.</p><p>You can fix your problem, but in 5 years when your kid is safe and someone else's kid gets raped and murdered, won't you feel bad for solving it for yourself?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , solve the problem for everyone 's child at the same time .
Ask them what their current system is , and how they intend to fix it .
Bring several of these suggestions to the table , including the low-tech ones , and let them know that it is not acceptable to lose children.You can fix your problem , but in 5 years when your kid is safe and someone else 's kid gets raped and murdered , wo n't you feel bad for solving it for yourself ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, solve the problem for everyone's child at the same time.
Ask them what their current system is, and how they intend to fix it.
Bring several of these suggestions to the table, including the low-tech ones, and let them know that it is not acceptable to lose children.You can fix your problem, but in 5 years when your kid is safe and someone else's kid gets raped and murdered, won't you feel bad for solving it for yourself?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171075</id>
	<title>Re:Drive her</title>
	<author>nmrtian</author>
	<datestamp>1243884720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ah yes, contribute to the swirling mass of minivans in front of the school. The daughter will more likely squashed than lost!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , contribute to the swirling mass of minivans in front of the school .
The daughter will more likely squashed than lost !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, contribute to the swirling mass of minivans in front of the school.
The daughter will more likely squashed than lost!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175007</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243856220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In high school I had a hard enough time getting on my buss. Between people talking when they announced buss changes, and my buss changing numbers at least 2 times a week (when it would show up at all). I am not surprised your elementary school aged daughter is getting on the wrong buss.</p><p>My solution was to look for the 2-3 buss drivers we usually had, or look for the people that rode the buss with me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In high school I had a hard enough time getting on my buss .
Between people talking when they announced buss changes , and my buss changing numbers at least 2 times a week ( when it would show up at all ) .
I am not surprised your elementary school aged daughter is getting on the wrong buss.My solution was to look for the 2-3 buss drivers we usually had , or look for the people that rode the buss with me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In high school I had a hard enough time getting on my buss.
Between people talking when they announced buss changes, and my buss changing numbers at least 2 times a week (when it would show up at all).
I am not surprised your elementary school aged daughter is getting on the wrong buss.My solution was to look for the 2-3 buss drivers we usually had, or look for the people that rode the buss with me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177627</id>
	<title>Cell Phone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243876440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     I second (third?) the suggestion to use Verizon Chaperone.  I wouldn't get the Migo as a few have suggested, the things just too likely to get your kid's ass kicked in school unless they are in like Kindergarten. But Chaperone will run on pretty much any phone.  As the kid gets older, if they need discipline,  kids will get hooked on text messaging (most likely..) and the threat of revoking text messaging will effectively keep ALMOST any kid in line.  (Or, as we suggested in howardforums a few days ago, threaten to switch their normal phone out with a Migo -- this may be a worse threat than taking the phone away entirely.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I second ( third ?
) the suggestion to use Verizon Chaperone .
I would n't get the Migo as a few have suggested , the things just too likely to get your kid 's ass kicked in school unless they are in like Kindergarten .
But Chaperone will run on pretty much any phone .
As the kid gets older , if they need discipline , kids will get hooked on text messaging ( most likely.. ) and the threat of revoking text messaging will effectively keep ALMOST any kid in line .
( Or , as we suggested in howardforums a few days ago , threaten to switch their normal phone out with a Migo -- this may be a worse threat than taking the phone away entirely .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     I second (third?
) the suggestion to use Verizon Chaperone.
I wouldn't get the Migo as a few have suggested, the things just too likely to get your kid's ass kicked in school unless they are in like Kindergarten.
But Chaperone will run on pretty much any phone.
As the kid gets older, if they need discipline,  kids will get hooked on text messaging (most likely..) and the threat of revoking text messaging will effectively keep ALMOST any kid in line.
(Or, as we suggested in howardforums a few days ago, threaten to switch their normal phone out with a Migo -- this may be a worse threat than taking the phone away entirely.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173617</id>
	<title>Re:Child Rustling</title>
	<author>hurfy</author>
	<datestamp>1243850580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I prefer my children to be more free-ranged. Ear tag and brand them to allow for quick identification should someone attempt to horn-in on my 'herd'. "</p><p>lol, i think we have a couple tattoo artists for customers i could sell those to if you have extras.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I prefer my children to be more free-ranged .
Ear tag and brand them to allow for quick identification should someone attempt to horn-in on my 'herd' .
" lol , i think we have a couple tattoo artists for customers i could sell those to if you have extras.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I prefer my children to be more free-ranged.
Ear tag and brand them to allow for quick identification should someone attempt to horn-in on my 'herd'.
"lol, i think we have a couple tattoo artists for customers i could sell those to if you have extras.....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171575</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175343</id>
	<title>cheap easy option if you trust Google.</title>
	<author>Ouchie</author>
	<datestamp>1243858080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you can get your hands on a cheap multi-media phone with gps, anything with symbian OS will work.  Download the Google App package and install google maps.  Then add Latitude.

Google latitude lets you share your location with select friends and it can be set to refresh based on your cellphone's gps signal.

For the first 3 months of this year I was commuting over 100 miles to work, each way.  My wife could follow my progress on Google Maps and get a pretty good estimate of my arrival time.

It isn't the most accuate but it is a free service provided you have a phone with a data package.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you can get your hands on a cheap multi-media phone with gps , anything with symbian OS will work .
Download the Google App package and install google maps .
Then add Latitude .
Google latitude lets you share your location with select friends and it can be set to refresh based on your cellphone 's gps signal .
For the first 3 months of this year I was commuting over 100 miles to work , each way .
My wife could follow my progress on Google Maps and get a pretty good estimate of my arrival time .
It is n't the most accuate but it is a free service provided you have a phone with a data package .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you can get your hands on a cheap multi-media phone with gps, anything with symbian OS will work.
Download the Google App package and install google maps.
Then add Latitude.
Google latitude lets you share your location with select friends and it can be set to refresh based on your cellphone's gps signal.
For the first 3 months of this year I was commuting over 100 miles to work, each way.
My wife could follow my progress on Google Maps and get a pretty good estimate of my arrival time.
It isn't the most accuate but it is a free service provided you have a phone with a data package.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177415</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>BGrif</author>
	<datestamp>1243874280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why didn't you just ask me?  I would have told you where I live.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why did n't you just ask me ?
I would have told you where I live .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why didn't you just ask me?
I would have told you where I live.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171569</id>
	<title>kids are masters at losing things</title>
	<author>hey</author>
	<datestamp>1243886580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a kid and everything that he takes to school eventually gets lost.  So far this school year its been 3 insulated lunch bags.  I am glad it wasn't 3 cell phones or GPS trackers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a kid and everything that he takes to school eventually gets lost .
So far this school year its been 3 insulated lunch bags .
I am glad it was n't 3 cell phones or GPS trackers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a kid and everything that he takes to school eventually gets lost.
So far this school year its been 3 insulated lunch bags.
I am glad it wasn't 3 cell phones or GPS trackers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172337</id>
	<title>Re:Wrong Solution</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1243889100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Back before cellphones, people planned, they scheduled, they coordinated when they had face to face contact, or possibly over a landline during those times they were at one.  They communicated when they had the opportunity.<br> <br>

They also lost their kids at Disney World, or the Mall, or wherever, and found them at the guest services desk, without freaking out too much because it happened to lots of people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Back before cellphones , people planned , they scheduled , they coordinated when they had face to face contact , or possibly over a landline during those times they were at one .
They communicated when they had the opportunity .
They also lost their kids at Disney World , or the Mall , or wherever , and found them at the guest services desk , without freaking out too much because it happened to lots of people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back before cellphones, people planned, they scheduled, they coordinated when they had face to face contact, or possibly over a landline during those times they were at one.
They communicated when they had the opportunity.
They also lost their kids at Disney World, or the Mall, or wherever, and found them at the guest services desk, without freaking out too much because it happened to lots of people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170899</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172533</id>
	<title>home school</title>
	<author>droidsURlooking4</author>
	<datestamp>1243889820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why does a 4 year old need to go to an institution anyway? Soon they'll want 3 year olds. If they can't keep all their ducks in order for busing, what other errors are going to be overlooked?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does a 4 year old need to go to an institution anyway ?
Soon they 'll want 3 year olds .
If they ca n't keep all their ducks in order for busing , what other errors are going to be overlooked ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does a 4 year old need to go to an institution anyway?
Soon they'll want 3 year olds.
If they can't keep all their ducks in order for busing, what other errors are going to be overlooked?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174729</id>
	<title>A simple solution</title>
	<author>Jeremi</author>
	<datestamp>1243854900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's needed is a cell phone with GPS (eg iPhone) and a button that is present during phone conversations, that when pressed causes the phone to send its current GPS coordinates to the remote party as an SMS message.</p><p>Then you could just call your daughter and ask her to press the button, and copy the result into google maps (or whatever)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's needed is a cell phone with GPS ( eg iPhone ) and a button that is present during phone conversations , that when pressed causes the phone to send its current GPS coordinates to the remote party as an SMS message.Then you could just call your daughter and ask her to press the button , and copy the result into google maps ( or whatever )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's needed is a cell phone with GPS (eg iPhone) and a button that is present during phone conversations, that when pressed causes the phone to send its current GPS coordinates to the remote party as an SMS message.Then you could just call your daughter and ask her to press the button, and copy the result into google maps (or whatever)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171353</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>sampson7</author>
	<datestamp>1243885680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sir, I salute you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sir , I salute you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sir, I salute you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171575</id>
	<title>Child Rustling</title>
	<author>sashapup</author>
	<datestamp>1243886580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I prefer my children to be more free-ranged.  Ear tag and brand them to allow for quick identification should someone attempt to horn-in on my 'herd'.
<br> <br>Seriously.... This isn't a tech problem, this is a human problem.  Get on the school district's case about this through any and all public means.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I prefer my children to be more free-ranged .
Ear tag and brand them to allow for quick identification should someone attempt to horn-in on my 'herd' .
Seriously.... This is n't a tech problem , this is a human problem .
Get on the school district 's case about this through any and all public means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I prefer my children to be more free-ranged.
Ear tag and brand them to allow for quick identification should someone attempt to horn-in on my 'herd'.
Seriously.... This isn't a tech problem, this is a human problem.
Get on the school district's case about this through any and all public means.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177643</id>
	<title>Every Device will fail eventually</title>
	<author>initialE</author>
	<datestamp>1243876560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a safeguard, teach your daughter about 1. How to avoid strangers, 2. How to find the nearest policeman (yeah I know, can you really trust them? But eventually you're gonna have to trust someone.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a safeguard , teach your daughter about 1 .
How to avoid strangers , 2 .
How to find the nearest policeman ( yeah I know , can you really trust them ?
But eventually you 're gon na have to trust someone .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a safeguard, teach your daughter about 1.
How to avoid strangers, 2.
How to find the nearest policeman (yeah I know, can you really trust them?
But eventually you're gonna have to trust someone.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171155</id>
	<title>escape</title>
	<author>Lord Ender</author>
	<datestamp>1243884960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> My specification are: 1) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter, 2) an application to pull up on any computer, a map with a dot indicating the real-time position of my child, 3) a handheld device with the equivalent information, 4) [optional] a secure web application/plug-in I can install on my own domain allowing me to track her from anyplace in the world, 5) a means of turning it all off, 6) a Linux based solution of the above.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Wow. Perhaps she was trying to get away from you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My specification are : 1 ) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter , 2 ) an application to pull up on any computer , a map with a dot indicating the real-time position of my child , 3 ) a handheld device with the equivalent information , 4 ) [ optional ] a secure web application/plug-in I can install on my own domain allowing me to track her from anyplace in the world , 5 ) a means of turning it all off , 6 ) a Linux based solution of the above .
Wow. Perhaps she was trying to get away from you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> My specification are: 1) a small unobtrusive device I can place on my daughter, 2) an application to pull up on any computer, a map with a dot indicating the real-time position of my child, 3) a handheld device with the equivalent information, 4) [optional] a secure web application/plug-in I can install on my own domain allowing me to track her from anyplace in the world, 5) a means of turning it all off, 6) a Linux based solution of the above.
Wow. Perhaps she was trying to get away from you.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174369</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1243853280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, I got distracted and ate the Jell-O.
<br> <br>
What was your point again?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , I got distracted and ate the Jell-O .
What was your point again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, I got distracted and ate the Jell-O.
What was your point again?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171379</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172383</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1243889280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.</i> <br> <br>Yes, but we don't breed swarms of kids like they used to.  A couple of generations ago it wasn't too hard to find a family of fourteen to sixteen kids.  These days, over three is getting to be a rarity.    All the safety gear and procedures means we don't need to have vast numbers to make up for losses due to lawn dart and teeter totter accidents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really amazing how any of us , and humanity in general , ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety ' gear that is available now .
Yes , but we do n't breed swarms of kids like they used to .
A couple of generations ago it was n't too hard to find a family of fourteen to sixteen kids .
These days , over three is getting to be a rarity .
All the safety gear and procedures means we do n't need to have vast numbers to make up for losses due to lawn dart and teeter totter accidents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.
Yes, but we don't breed swarms of kids like they used to.
A couple of generations ago it wasn't too hard to find a family of fourteen to sixteen kids.
These days, over three is getting to be a rarity.
All the safety gear and procedures means we don't need to have vast numbers to make up for losses due to lawn dart and teeter totter accidents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174381</id>
	<title>Re:Simple Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243853400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll second the "skip the news" part.    Since i became a parent, I've rarely watched the news because of the 95\% cring actor these days.    I used to watch Law&amp;Order SVU before I had a child.  Now it makes we want to vomit to just see 5 seconds of an episode.</p><p>*insert joke here*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll second the " skip the news " part .
Since i became a parent , I 've rarely watched the news because of the 95 \ % cring actor these days .
I used to watch Law&amp;Order SVU before I had a child .
Now it makes we want to vomit to just see 5 seconds of an episode .
* insert joke here *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll second the "skip the news" part.
Since i became a parent, I've rarely watched the news because of the 95\% cring actor these days.
I used to watch Law&amp;Order SVU before I had a child.
Now it makes we want to vomit to just see 5 seconds of an episode.
*insert joke here*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172995</id>
	<title>Smartphone</title>
	<author>ponraul</author>
	<datestamp>1243848360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If money isn't a concern, get a G1 and enable Google Latitude. Underclock it to 128MHz to save battery life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If money is n't a concern , get a G1 and enable Google Latitude .
Underclock it to 128MHz to save battery life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If money isn't a concern, get a G1 and enable Google Latitude.
Underclock it to 128MHz to save battery life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172379</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243889280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you explain the whole scared-of-the-police thing?  When I was a kid, first preference was to talk to a police officer if you're in trouble...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you explain the whole scared-of-the-police thing ?
When I was a kid , first preference was to talk to a police officer if you 're in trouble.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you explain the whole scared-of-the-police thing?
When I was a kid, first preference was to talk to a police officer if you're in trouble...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175275</id>
	<title>The Brazilian Solution</title>
	<author>MuggieWuggy</author>
	<datestamp>1243857720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get her some <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/biztech/brazil-markets-gps-find-me-if-you-can-lingerie/2008/10/31/1224956304731.html" title="smh.com.au" rel="nofollow">Find Me if You Can</a> [smh.com.au] lingerie.
<p>
It'll make a strong statement to the school and it'll take care of the problem.
</p><p>
And if they still can't get her to daddy, then maybe they can <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJCRNXUngAM" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">get her a new one</a> [youtube.com]...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get her some Find Me if You Can [ smh.com.au ] lingerie .
It 'll make a strong statement to the school and it 'll take care of the problem .
And if they still ca n't get her to daddy , then maybe they can get her a new one [ youtube.com ] .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get her some Find Me if You Can [smh.com.au] lingerie.
It'll make a strong statement to the school and it'll take care of the problem.
And if they still can't get her to daddy, then maybe they can get her a new one [youtube.com]...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174811</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243855200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok wait, lets go through this.</p><p>* 6th Grade means 11-13 years old.<br>* Twice on the wrong school bus being 11-13 years old<br>* Lost at a parade at 11-13 years old.<br>* <b> Afraid </b> of the police? Afraid? What sort of incident makes you <b>afraid</b> of the police? Distrust should be the word you use?<br>* And you track your now teen aged daughter...</p><p>Ok, 6th grade, still taking the bus to school. (presumably she is now older, still taking a bus?) A little old to be taking a bus to school? (Apologizes if the school is further than 5 miles, anything less, they need to walk)<br>Now, a 12 year old getting lost at a parade? Seriously? Have you not taught her to keep aware of her surroundings? To keep people shes with in eye sight if she doesn't get lost?<br>Afraid? Seriously Afraid? Great. Now when shes raped because she got lost and turned down a dark alley she won't report it because shes afraid of the police. Her house is burgled and everything is stolen, no report because shes "afraid" of the police. Get some thearpy for this. You should NEVER be <b>afraid</b> of the police. Distrust yes. afraid no. Different emotions there. A huge difference.<br>And your now tracking on a regular basis your teenaged daughter.</p><p>Jesus, your as messed up as the Article poster. Let your child grow up. Cut the Umbilical. They'll be smarter for it, and happier in life. and as a bonus, you won't be creating more offspring that are afraid of everyday life and pushing those ideals on MY children and grandchildren.</p><p>- A parent of 5 children, 4 adults now and 1 in Highschool. None of them need Therapy and are all well adjusted adults.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok wait , lets go through this .
* 6th Grade means 11-13 years old .
* Twice on the wrong school bus being 11-13 years old * Lost at a parade at 11-13 years old .
* Afraid of the police ?
Afraid ? What sort of incident makes you afraid of the police ?
Distrust should be the word you use ?
* And you track your now teen aged daughter...Ok , 6th grade , still taking the bus to school .
( presumably she is now older , still taking a bus ?
) A little old to be taking a bus to school ?
( Apologizes if the school is further than 5 miles , anything less , they need to walk ) Now , a 12 year old getting lost at a parade ?
Seriously ? Have you not taught her to keep aware of her surroundings ?
To keep people shes with in eye sight if she does n't get lost ? Afraid ?
Seriously Afraid ?
Great. Now when shes raped because she got lost and turned down a dark alley she wo n't report it because shes afraid of the police .
Her house is burgled and everything is stolen , no report because shes " afraid " of the police .
Get some thearpy for this .
You should NEVER be afraid of the police .
Distrust yes .
afraid no .
Different emotions there .
A huge difference.And your now tracking on a regular basis your teenaged daughter.Jesus , your as messed up as the Article poster .
Let your child grow up .
Cut the Umbilical .
They 'll be smarter for it , and happier in life .
and as a bonus , you wo n't be creating more offspring that are afraid of everyday life and pushing those ideals on MY children and grandchildren.- A parent of 5 children , 4 adults now and 1 in Highschool .
None of them need Therapy and are all well adjusted adults .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok wait, lets go through this.
* 6th Grade means 11-13 years old.
* Twice on the wrong school bus being 11-13 years old* Lost at a parade at 11-13 years old.
*  Afraid  of the police?
Afraid? What sort of incident makes you afraid of the police?
Distrust should be the word you use?
* And you track your now teen aged daughter...Ok, 6th grade, still taking the bus to school.
(presumably she is now older, still taking a bus?
) A little old to be taking a bus to school?
(Apologizes if the school is further than 5 miles, anything less, they need to walk)Now, a 12 year old getting lost at a parade?
Seriously? Have you not taught her to keep aware of her surroundings?
To keep people shes with in eye sight if she doesn't get lost?Afraid?
Seriously Afraid?
Great. Now when shes raped because she got lost and turned down a dark alley she won't report it because shes afraid of the police.
Her house is burgled and everything is stolen, no report because shes "afraid" of the police.
Get some thearpy for this.
You should NEVER be afraid of the police.
Distrust yes.
afraid no.
Different emotions there.
A huge difference.And your now tracking on a regular basis your teenaged daughter.Jesus, your as messed up as the Article poster.
Let your child grow up.
Cut the Umbilical.
They'll be smarter for it, and happier in life.
and as a bonus, you won't be creating more offspring that are afraid of everyday life and pushing those ideals on MY children and grandchildren.- A parent of 5 children, 4 adults now and 1 in Highschool.
None of them need Therapy and are all well adjusted adults.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174273</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>ahoehn</author>
	<datestamp>1243852920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While I agree with your sentiment (parents should stop freaking out about their kids' safety) - you could say the same thing about things like child car seats.  I mean, I made it just fine riding around (in Africa nevertheless) on my parent's laps without any safety restraints.  So why should I subject my child to the constraints of a car seat?</p><p>Sure, getting in a traffic accident is a much more likely scenario than having your child lost by the school district, but since when was Slashdot against using technology to make our lives better / safer?  Step back from the natural - ZOMG! Big Brother! - reaction, and it seems like making sure your 6-year-old is at school when she's supposed to be is a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While I agree with your sentiment ( parents should stop freaking out about their kids ' safety ) - you could say the same thing about things like child car seats .
I mean , I made it just fine riding around ( in Africa nevertheless ) on my parent 's laps without any safety restraints .
So why should I subject my child to the constraints of a car seat ? Sure , getting in a traffic accident is a much more likely scenario than having your child lost by the school district , but since when was Slashdot against using technology to make our lives better / safer ?
Step back from the natural - ZOMG !
Big Brother !
- reaction , and it seems like making sure your 6-year-old is at school when she 's supposed to be is a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I agree with your sentiment (parents should stop freaking out about their kids' safety) - you could say the same thing about things like child car seats.
I mean, I made it just fine riding around (in Africa nevertheless) on my parent's laps without any safety restraints.
So why should I subject my child to the constraints of a car seat?Sure, getting in a traffic accident is a much more likely scenario than having your child lost by the school district, but since when was Slashdot against using technology to make our lives better / safer?
Step back from the natural - ZOMG!
Big Brother!
- reaction, and it seems like making sure your 6-year-old is at school when she's supposed to be is a good thing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171519</id>
	<title>Wow.</title>
	<author>TheDarkener</author>
	<datestamp>1243886400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just think of when your kid gets old enough to realize you're tracking her every move. Do you think that's going to go over well with her? What if you want to keep it on her to make sure she's not going to any "unacceptable" parties? There's a BIG consequence in doing something like this, in the parent/child relationship.</p><p>I'd go w/everyone else and say "Get her a cell phone". There are plenty out there for kids that lock down so they can't call foreign countries and text 1000s of times to her friends. Simple. If she's in trouble or lost, she can call you. No need to go CIA on her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just think of when your kid gets old enough to realize you 're tracking her every move .
Do you think that 's going to go over well with her ?
What if you want to keep it on her to make sure she 's not going to any " unacceptable " parties ?
There 's a BIG consequence in doing something like this , in the parent/child relationship.I 'd go w/everyone else and say " Get her a cell phone " .
There are plenty out there for kids that lock down so they ca n't call foreign countries and text 1000s of times to her friends .
Simple. If she 's in trouble or lost , she can call you .
No need to go CIA on her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just think of when your kid gets old enough to realize you're tracking her every move.
Do you think that's going to go over well with her?
What if you want to keep it on her to make sure she's not going to any "unacceptable" parties?
There's a BIG consequence in doing something like this, in the parent/child relationship.I'd go w/everyone else and say "Get her a cell phone".
There are plenty out there for kids that lock down so they can't call foreign countries and text 1000s of times to her friends.
Simple. If she's in trouble or lost, she can call you.
No need to go CIA on her.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173787</id>
	<title>Alternate Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243851180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Wait for your daughter to on the wrong bus.<br>2. Let your daughter get lost.<br>3. Sue the school.<br>4. Profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Wait for your daughter to on the wrong bus.2 .
Let your daughter get lost.3 .
Sue the school.4 .
Profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Wait for your daughter to on the wrong bus.2.
Let your daughter get lost.3.
Sue the school.4.
Profit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173531</id>
	<title>Could get expensive</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1243850220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The biggest problem I have with giving expensive gadgets to kids is that if it can be taken off and left somewhere, then it almost certainly will be. On the other hand, if you built a GPS into her chastity belt...<br> <br>
My wife tried giving our daughter a cell phone in first grade, so we could know where she was and if she made it home from school ok. But my daughter got in trouble for not turning it off during school, and if she did turn it off, she couldn't remember to turn it back on.<br> <br>
Unless you can come up with a device that locks on, can't be removed, is waterproof, and is close to unbreakable, it's not going to be very reliable. Also, there are plenty of places where GPS receivers simply don't work, e.g. inside most office buildings. Heck, we couldn't even get cell phones to work inside multi-story Intel or HP buildings (they are built by pouring concrete onto corrugated steel, making for a fairly effective RF shield unless you are standing in front of a window.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The biggest problem I have with giving expensive gadgets to kids is that if it can be taken off and left somewhere , then it almost certainly will be .
On the other hand , if you built a GPS into her chastity belt.. . My wife tried giving our daughter a cell phone in first grade , so we could know where she was and if she made it home from school ok. But my daughter got in trouble for not turning it off during school , and if she did turn it off , she could n't remember to turn it back on .
Unless you can come up with a device that locks on , ca n't be removed , is waterproof , and is close to unbreakable , it 's not going to be very reliable .
Also , there are plenty of places where GPS receivers simply do n't work , e.g .
inside most office buildings .
Heck , we could n't even get cell phones to work inside multi-story Intel or HP buildings ( they are built by pouring concrete onto corrugated steel , making for a fairly effective RF shield unless you are standing in front of a window .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The biggest problem I have with giving expensive gadgets to kids is that if it can be taken off and left somewhere, then it almost certainly will be.
On the other hand, if you built a GPS into her chastity belt... 
My wife tried giving our daughter a cell phone in first grade, so we could know where she was and if she made it home from school ok. But my daughter got in trouble for not turning it off during school, and if she did turn it off, she couldn't remember to turn it back on.
Unless you can come up with a device that locks on, can't be removed, is waterproof, and is close to unbreakable, it's not going to be very reliable.
Also, there are plenty of places where GPS receivers simply don't work, e.g.
inside most office buildings.
Heck, we couldn't even get cell phones to work inside multi-story Intel or HP buildings (they are built by pouring concrete onto corrugated steel, making for a fairly effective RF shield unless you are standing in front of a window.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28179949</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>DeafScribe</author>
	<datestamp>1243945440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Beautiful. Instead of solving one person's problem, solve it for the entire community. That's smart scaling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Beautiful .
Instead of solving one person 's problem , solve it for the entire community .
That 's smart scaling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beautiful.
Instead of solving one person's problem, solve it for the entire community.
That's smart scaling.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174525</id>
	<title>Re:It's not just what you ask for yourself</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1243854060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Simple</p><p>As a parent you own your kid and can do whatever you damn please except cause injury or neglect.</p><p>No property rights, no privileges, no nothing.  You can strip them down sell their stuff and yank them off to hawaii and the government shouldn't intervene.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SimpleAs a parent you own your kid and can do whatever you damn please except cause injury or neglect.No property rights , no privileges , no nothing .
You can strip them down sell their stuff and yank them off to hawaii and the government should n't intervene .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SimpleAs a parent you own your kid and can do whatever you damn please except cause injury or neglect.No property rights, no privileges, no nothing.
You can strip them down sell their stuff and yank them off to hawaii and the government shouldn't intervene.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172699</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28182619</id>
	<title>Make her more responsible for herself</title>
	<author>miceuz</author>
	<datestamp>1243958820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Better teach her not to trust authorities and ask/doublecheck busses before going in. this way you will not make it normal for your doughter to be under survelliance from young age and make her more responsible, more aware person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Better teach her not to trust authorities and ask/doublecheck busses before going in .
this way you will not make it normal for your doughter to be under survelliance from young age and make her more responsible , more aware person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Better teach her not to trust authorities and ask/doublecheck busses before going in.
this way you will not make it normal for your doughter to be under survelliance from young age and make her more responsible, more aware person.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170979</id>
	<title>SPOT personal tracker</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Try googling for "SPOT personal tracker". It may be what you need.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Try googling for " SPOT personal tracker " .
It may be what you need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try googling for "SPOT personal tracker".
It may be what you need.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171849</id>
	<title>Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SERIOUS SOLUTION :</p><p>Have you verified with your cell phone provider to see if they deliver this kind of service ? Many cell phones today include GPS functionallity and some cell phone providers allow you to add a feature that gives you exactly what you need :</p><p>
&nbsp; - Tracking from a computer of someone else in your plan<br>
&nbsp; - Tracking from your own cell phone someone else in your plan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SERIOUS SOLUTION : Have you verified with your cell phone provider to see if they deliver this kind of service ?
Many cell phones today include GPS functionallity and some cell phone providers allow you to add a feature that gives you exactly what you need :   - Tracking from a computer of someone else in your plan   - Tracking from your own cell phone someone else in your plan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SERIOUS SOLUTION :Have you verified with your cell phone provider to see if they deliver this kind of service ?
Many cell phones today include GPS functionallity and some cell phone providers allow you to add a feature that gives you exactly what you need :
  - Tracking from a computer of someone else in your plan
  - Tracking from your own cell phone someone else in your plan</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174153</id>
	<title>Re:How about teaching</title>
	<author>celtic\_hackr</author>
	<datestamp>1243852440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That all works fine, until they switch bus numbers and don't tell the child that she should be on bus 3 and not 5. My child can count to 100 and the school wasn't too happy about that. They should  only be able to count to twenty. They needed my permission to put sunblock on her, so, the first day of class she got sunburn, because the daycare center where I dropped her off, expected the school would do it. Now they have permission and I even provided them with a free bottle of sunscreen and today she got more sunburn because they didn't put it on her again. So now, I have to put it on her myself, before school and hope she still has enough coverage when it's time to go outside.</p><p>This is a 5 year old we are talking about. They have proven limited survival capabilities. I don't plan on tracking her her whole life, just until she can reasonably manage herself, in a year or two. I would consider $50-$500 (or even more) a worthwhile investment for a year or two's worth of being able to better ensure her survival.</p><p>In twenty years, I hope my child can think that she can do whatever is necessary to ensure the survival of her children, and has the ability to do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That all works fine , until they switch bus numbers and do n't tell the child that she should be on bus 3 and not 5 .
My child can count to 100 and the school was n't too happy about that .
They should only be able to count to twenty .
They needed my permission to put sunblock on her , so , the first day of class she got sunburn , because the daycare center where I dropped her off , expected the school would do it .
Now they have permission and I even provided them with a free bottle of sunscreen and today she got more sunburn because they did n't put it on her again .
So now , I have to put it on her myself , before school and hope she still has enough coverage when it 's time to go outside.This is a 5 year old we are talking about .
They have proven limited survival capabilities .
I do n't plan on tracking her her whole life , just until she can reasonably manage herself , in a year or two .
I would consider $ 50- $ 500 ( or even more ) a worthwhile investment for a year or two 's worth of being able to better ensure her survival.In twenty years , I hope my child can think that she can do whatever is necessary to ensure the survival of her children , and has the ability to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That all works fine, until they switch bus numbers and don't tell the child that she should be on bus 3 and not 5.
My child can count to 100 and the school wasn't too happy about that.
They should  only be able to count to twenty.
They needed my permission to put sunblock on her, so, the first day of class she got sunburn, because the daycare center where I dropped her off, expected the school would do it.
Now they have permission and I even provided them with a free bottle of sunscreen and today she got more sunburn because they didn't put it on her again.
So now, I have to put it on her myself, before school and hope she still has enough coverage when it's time to go outside.This is a 5 year old we are talking about.
They have proven limited survival capabilities.
I don't plan on tracking her her whole life, just until she can reasonably manage herself, in a year or two.
I would consider $50-$500 (or even more) a worthwhile investment for a year or two's worth of being able to better ensure her survival.In twenty years, I hope my child can think that she can do whatever is necessary to ensure the survival of her children, and has the ability to do it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171307</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28176425</id>
	<title>Smother</title>
	<author>whong09</author>
	<datestamp>1243865760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I understand that you're concerned for the safety of your child, but you're really assuming the worst will happen. You're also overlooking the fact that your daughter is a bright individual and that she can take care of herself so much as finding her way home or reaching you. Besides, if you start tracking your daughter when do you draw the line? Are you going to make sure that all of her friends are ok to play with? Are you going to pick out what she eats so it's what you think is healthy? At what age do you stop tracking your daughter? What about dating in the future? Are you going to lock your daughter in a tower? <br>
As a parent I'd rather trust my children and they'd rather have me trust them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand that you 're concerned for the safety of your child , but you 're really assuming the worst will happen .
You 're also overlooking the fact that your daughter is a bright individual and that she can take care of herself so much as finding her way home or reaching you .
Besides , if you start tracking your daughter when do you draw the line ?
Are you going to make sure that all of her friends are ok to play with ?
Are you going to pick out what she eats so it 's what you think is healthy ?
At what age do you stop tracking your daughter ?
What about dating in the future ?
Are you going to lock your daughter in a tower ?
As a parent I 'd rather trust my children and they 'd rather have me trust them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand that you're concerned for the safety of your child, but you're really assuming the worst will happen.
You're also overlooking the fact that your daughter is a bright individual and that she can take care of herself so much as finding her way home or reaching you.
Besides, if you start tracking your daughter when do you draw the line?
Are you going to make sure that all of her friends are ok to play with?
Are you going to pick out what she eats so it's what you think is healthy?
At what age do you stop tracking your daughter?
What about dating in the future?
Are you going to lock your daughter in a tower?
As a parent I'd rather trust my children and they'd rather have me trust them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28179895</id>
	<title>obvious answer, cell phone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243944900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Buy her an Android phone, like the TMobile G1, and sign her up for Google Latitude. That should solve it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy her an Android phone , like the TMobile G1 , and sign her up for Google Latitude .
That should solve it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy her an Android phone, like the TMobile G1, and sign her up for Google Latitude.
That should solve it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172297</id>
	<title>Re:Educate her</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bingo!<br>If the kid calls from a payphone, chances are there is a landmark (shops, library etc) that you can use along with google maps to find the exact location.<br>You can then give it instructions like 'stay on that side of the road, head towards the library, go inside and wait inside at reception until I get there.</p><p>Bonus points for finding the kids destination before it gets there and call ahead so they can greet your offspring by name and calm it dowm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bingo ! If the kid calls from a payphone , chances are there is a landmark ( shops , library etc ) that you can use along with google maps to find the exact location.You can then give it instructions like 'stay on that side of the road , head towards the library , go inside and wait inside at reception until I get there.Bonus points for finding the kids destination before it gets there and call ahead so they can greet your offspring by name and calm it dowm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bingo!If the kid calls from a payphone, chances are there is a landmark (shops, library etc) that you can use along with google maps to find the exact location.You can then give it instructions like 'stay on that side of the road, head towards the library, go inside and wait inside at reception until I get there.Bonus points for finding the kids destination before it gets there and call ahead so they can greet your offspring by name and calm it dowm.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171145</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170797</id>
	<title>Easiest solution is to go with Lojack</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243883640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Police and insurance companies are familiar with the operation of these units. And a few brackets will easily and securely mount the unit to your daughter's undercarriage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Police and insurance companies are familiar with the operation of these units .
And a few brackets will easily and securely mount the unit to your daughter 's undercarriage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Police and insurance companies are familiar with the operation of these units.
And a few brackets will easily and securely mount the unit to your daughter's undercarriage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170937</id>
	<title>Here's the best solution</title>
	<author>Microsift</author>
	<datestamp>1243884240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have conjoined twins, they'll be difficult for a kidnapper to conceal, and nearly everyone will know who their parents are due to rampant media coverage of every detail of their lives. Of course, there are downsides...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have conjoined twins , they 'll be difficult for a kidnapper to conceal , and nearly everyone will know who their parents are due to rampant media coverage of every detail of their lives .
Of course , there are downsides.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have conjoined twins, they'll be difficult for a kidnapper to conceal, and nearly everyone will know who their parents are due to rampant media coverage of every detail of their lives.
Of course, there are downsides...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174187</id>
	<title>APRS: Automatic Position Reporting System</title>
	<author>atluxity</author>
	<datestamp>1243852620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dont agree with your logic, but I am not the right guy to pas judgement because I dont have any kids myself.</p><p>I belive APRS is what you want, if a cell-phone is not. Although I dont know it enough to know of any devices you can place on your kid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dont agree with your logic , but I am not the right guy to pas judgement because I dont have any kids myself.I belive APRS is what you want , if a cell-phone is not .
Although I dont know it enough to know of any devices you can place on your kid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dont agree with your logic, but I am not the right guy to pas judgement because I dont have any kids myself.I belive APRS is what you want, if a cell-phone is not.
Although I dont know it enough to know of any devices you can place on your kid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171905</id>
	<title>Age?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At what age is a child responsible enough to get on and off the correct bus?<br>
&nbsp; Answer: 6 yrs old.</p><p>How did I come to this?<br>
&nbsp; a) At 6, I walked to and from school over a mile from home.<br>
&nbsp; b) At 6.5, we moved to a new state and I walked about 2 miles to and from school - including the first day.<br>
&nbsp; c) In Iceland, I understand children take mass transit to school daily without issue. I also understand that most adults on MTR help to ensure the kids get on and off the correct trains.<br>
&nbsp; d) As I got older, we moved again and I had to catch the correct bus.  That came down to learning the bus placement in the queue, bus number and bus driver.</p><p>If this is a special needs child, perhaps writing the bus number on the forehead "BUS 32" would help?  That would certainly be cheaper than a $10/month cell phone plan for a child.</p><p>BTW, I still can't believe all the parents who give their kids cell phones regardless of the age. For 10,000 years, children didn't have cell phones and seemed to get along just fine.  Paying any amount, but especially $500/yr or more seems crazy to me.  Put that money into their college savings plan instead.  Please.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At what age is a child responsible enough to get on and off the correct bus ?
  Answer : 6 yrs old.How did I come to this ?
  a ) At 6 , I walked to and from school over a mile from home .
  b ) At 6.5 , we moved to a new state and I walked about 2 miles to and from school - including the first day .
  c ) In Iceland , I understand children take mass transit to school daily without issue .
I also understand that most adults on MTR help to ensure the kids get on and off the correct trains .
  d ) As I got older , we moved again and I had to catch the correct bus .
That came down to learning the bus placement in the queue , bus number and bus driver.If this is a special needs child , perhaps writing the bus number on the forehead " BUS 32 " would help ?
That would certainly be cheaper than a $ 10/month cell phone plan for a child.BTW , I still ca n't believe all the parents who give their kids cell phones regardless of the age .
For 10,000 years , children did n't have cell phones and seemed to get along just fine .
Paying any amount , but especially $ 500/yr or more seems crazy to me .
Put that money into their college savings plan instead .
Please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At what age is a child responsible enough to get on and off the correct bus?
  Answer: 6 yrs old.How did I come to this?
  a) At 6, I walked to and from school over a mile from home.
  b) At 6.5, we moved to a new state and I walked about 2 miles to and from school - including the first day.
  c) In Iceland, I understand children take mass transit to school daily without issue.
I also understand that most adults on MTR help to ensure the kids get on and off the correct trains.
  d) As I got older, we moved again and I had to catch the correct bus.
That came down to learning the bus placement in the queue, bus number and bus driver.If this is a special needs child, perhaps writing the bus number on the forehead "BUS 32" would help?
That would certainly be cheaper than a $10/month cell phone plan for a child.BTW, I still can't believe all the parents who give their kids cell phones regardless of the age.
For 10,000 years, children didn't have cell phones and seemed to get along just fine.
Paying any amount, but especially $500/yr or more seems crazy to me.
Put that money into their college savings plan instead.
Please.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172817</id>
	<title>Hmm..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243847700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you considered talking to your local marine biologist?  I'm sure they have already come up with something to track whales, birds, and other migratory species.</p><p>All jokes aside. Your phone company has thought of this.  There are phones made for kids with GPS, and services for said phone that allow you to track the device.</p><p>Also, they can call you and you can call them.  A virtual leash, which is a hell of a lot cooler than tagging an ankle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you considered talking to your local marine biologist ?
I 'm sure they have already come up with something to track whales , birds , and other migratory species.All jokes aside .
Your phone company has thought of this .
There are phones made for kids with GPS , and services for said phone that allow you to track the device.Also , they can call you and you can call them .
A virtual leash , which is a hell of a lot cooler than tagging an ankle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you considered talking to your local marine biologist?
I'm sure they have already come up with something to track whales, birds, and other migratory species.All jokes aside.
Your phone company has thought of this.
There are phones made for kids with GPS, and services for said phone that allow you to track the device.Also, they can call you and you can call them.
A virtual leash, which is a hell of a lot cooler than tagging an ankle.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172061</id>
	<title>Homeschool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Teach your kid at home and don't rely on the government for any of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Teach your kid at home and do n't rely on the government for any of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Teach your kid at home and don't rely on the government for any of it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171405</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>tgd</author>
	<datestamp>1243885860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in middle school, you were expected to get on the right bus, if you were taking a bus. Other kids just walked. (Yes, even at 10-12yo). They dropped you off at one stop in a neighborhood (not in front of your house tying up traffic).</p><p>Kids got on the wrong bus sometimes. Kids wandered off with friends. If it was the latter, you probably got an ass kickin' when you got home.</p><p>No one talked about laminated passes, or tracking kids, or making parents meet them at bus stops or any of the other ridiculous things done these days.</p><p>A lot of parents these days suck. celtic\_hackr is one of them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in middle school , you were expected to get on the right bus , if you were taking a bus .
Other kids just walked .
( Yes , even at 10-12yo ) .
They dropped you off at one stop in a neighborhood ( not in front of your house tying up traffic ) .Kids got on the wrong bus sometimes .
Kids wandered off with friends .
If it was the latter , you probably got an ass kickin ' when you got home.No one talked about laminated passes , or tracking kids , or making parents meet them at bus stops or any of the other ridiculous things done these days.A lot of parents these days suck .
celtic \ _hackr is one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in middle school, you were expected to get on the right bus, if you were taking a bus.
Other kids just walked.
(Yes, even at 10-12yo).
They dropped you off at one stop in a neighborhood (not in front of your house tying up traffic).Kids got on the wrong bus sometimes.
Kids wandered off with friends.
If it was the latter, you probably got an ass kickin' when you got home.No one talked about laminated passes, or tracking kids, or making parents meet them at bus stops or any of the other ridiculous things done these days.A lot of parents these days suck.
celtic\_hackr is one of them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173157</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243848960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...She knows that this is not because I don't trust her, but because I don't trust everyone else.</p><p>Wow, there's a lesson I'm not planning on teaching my kids.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...She knows that this is not because I do n't trust her , but because I do n't trust everyone else.Wow , there 's a lesson I 'm not planning on teaching my kids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...She knows that this is not because I don't trust her, but because I don't trust everyone else.Wow, there's a lesson I'm not planning on teaching my kids.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28176615</id>
	<title>Maybe RFID is a better solution?</title>
	<author>LandGator</author>
	<datestamp>1243867560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Put RFID readers on the buses, RFID tags on the kid's backpacks, and sound an alert when a kid boards who is not assigned to the bus? This ain;t the world I grew up in, where you could cound on the bus driver knowing you; this is the worst of the 21st, where you're lucky if the driver hablamos Ingles.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Put RFID readers on the buses , RFID tags on the kid 's backpacks , and sound an alert when a kid boards who is not assigned to the bus ?
This ain ; t the world I grew up in , where you could cound on the bus driver knowing you ; this is the worst of the 21st , where you 're lucky if the driver hablamos Ingles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Put RFID readers on the buses, RFID tags on the kid's backpacks, and sound an alert when a kid boards who is not assigned to the bus?
This ain;t the world I grew up in, where you could cound on the bus driver knowing you; this is the worst of the 21st, where you're lucky if the driver hablamos Ingles.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171865</id>
	<title>cell phone.</title>
	<author>zod1025</author>
	<datestamp>1243887420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only solution to this problem is to have the subject transmit its coordinates to a server. Your "small, unobtrusive device" then becomes a combination of GPS receiver and cell phone.  There is no other option.  The software used is largely irrelevant.
<p>
 THUS, you are best served in this case by getting her a cell phone and teaching her what to do if she gets lost. Preferably a cellphone that already has some of these features available.
</p><p>
I have implemented such a system myself for my company, although for vehicle location rather than people. We use off-the-shelf USB dongles on a laptop, and we have a client app on the laptop that "phones home" every few seconds with the updated positions.  A server side app allows plotting points on the map (research Google Maps or Microsoft Virtual Earth). It's very neat, and I'm sure its exactly what you want for your daughter... but since you would want her carrying around a "small device" rather than a laptop anyway, you're looking at a cellphone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only solution to this problem is to have the subject transmit its coordinates to a server .
Your " small , unobtrusive device " then becomes a combination of GPS receiver and cell phone .
There is no other option .
The software used is largely irrelevant .
THUS , you are best served in this case by getting her a cell phone and teaching her what to do if she gets lost .
Preferably a cellphone that already has some of these features available .
I have implemented such a system myself for my company , although for vehicle location rather than people .
We use off-the-shelf USB dongles on a laptop , and we have a client app on the laptop that " phones home " every few seconds with the updated positions .
A server side app allows plotting points on the map ( research Google Maps or Microsoft Virtual Earth ) .
It 's very neat , and I 'm sure its exactly what you want for your daughter... but since you would want her carrying around a " small device " rather than a laptop anyway , you 're looking at a cellphone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only solution to this problem is to have the subject transmit its coordinates to a server.
Your "small, unobtrusive device" then becomes a combination of GPS receiver and cell phone.
There is no other option.
The software used is largely irrelevant.
THUS, you are best served in this case by getting her a cell phone and teaching her what to do if she gets lost.
Preferably a cellphone that already has some of these features available.
I have implemented such a system myself for my company, although for vehicle location rather than people.
We use off-the-shelf USB dongles on a laptop, and we have a client app on the laptop that "phones home" every few seconds with the updated positions.
A server side app allows plotting points on the map (research Google Maps or Microsoft Virtual Earth).
It's very neat, and I'm sure its exactly what you want for your daughter... but since you would want her carrying around a "small device" rather than a laptop anyway, you're looking at a cellphone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174737</id>
	<title>Brickhouse child locator</title>
	<author>ZDRuX</author>
	<datestamp>1243854900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This here little gem is $299. It's about the size of a pack of matches. Battery lasts for <b>5 DAYS</b>, has a "panic" alarm that the child can press at her discretion. And also updates you through a txt message on your cellphone or email if the child leave a "designated" area that you get to control. And you can of course track the location of the GPS transmitted on in real-time on a map on the web (no software to install).<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.brickhouse-childsafety.com/child-gps-children-tracking-device-kids-locator-track.html" title="brickhouse...safety.com">Spark Nano Child GPS Tracker</a> [brickhouse...safety.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This here little gem is $ 299 .
It 's about the size of a pack of matches .
Battery lasts for 5 DAYS , has a " panic " alarm that the child can press at her discretion .
And also updates you through a txt message on your cellphone or email if the child leave a " designated " area that you get to control .
And you can of course track the location of the GPS transmitted on in real-time on a map on the web ( no software to install ) .
Spark Nano Child GPS Tracker [ brickhouse...safety.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This here little gem is $299.
It's about the size of a pack of matches.
Battery lasts for 5 DAYS, has a "panic" alarm that the child can press at her discretion.
And also updates you through a txt message on your cellphone or email if the child leave a "designated" area that you get to control.
And you can of course track the location of the GPS transmitted on in real-time on a map on the web (no software to install).
Spark Nano Child GPS Tracker [brickhouse...safety.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177269</id>
	<title>Give the world a break</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243873080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey Pops, wanna learn about how to spy on someone?  Move to the UK!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey Pops , wan na learn about how to spy on someone ?
Move to the UK !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey Pops, wanna learn about how to spy on someone?
Move to the UK!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171389</id>
	<title>Re:Here's My Answer:</title>
	<author>YouWantFriesWithThat</author>
	<datestamp>1243885860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>wow.  that right there is the response of a pro-union teacher.  clearly your love for education is overwhelming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>wow .
that right there is the response of a pro-union teacher .
clearly your love for education is overwhelming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wow.
that right there is the response of a pro-union teacher.
clearly your love for education is overwhelming.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171953</id>
	<title>What about college?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with this type of thing is there's no end.</p><p>If your going to track at that young age... what's the cut off? At what age does this end?</p><p>Where does the over-parenting stop? When they can read? First date? First time they have sex (please don't take part in that)?  Sometime after?</p><p>Seems the best approach is the one that statistically worked well for thousands of years: teach your kid to think on their feet and have good decision skills regardless of age.</p><p>Otherwise they will never become smart enough for a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. account.  Stuck on MySpace for eternity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with this type of thing is there 's no end.If your going to track at that young age... what 's the cut off ?
At what age does this end ? Where does the over-parenting stop ?
When they can read ?
First date ?
First time they have sex ( please do n't take part in that ) ?
Sometime after ? Seems the best approach is the one that statistically worked well for thousands of years : teach your kid to think on their feet and have good decision skills regardless of age.Otherwise they will never become smart enough for a / .
account. Stuck on MySpace for eternity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with this type of thing is there's no end.If your going to track at that young age... what's the cut off?
At what age does this end?Where does the over-parenting stop?
When they can read?
First date?
First time they have sex (please don't take part in that)?
Sometime after?Seems the best approach is the one that statistically worked well for thousands of years: teach your kid to think on their feet and have good decision skills regardless of age.Otherwise they will never become smart enough for a /.
account.  Stuck on MySpace for eternity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28176101</id>
	<title>Sprint Family Locator</title>
	<author>JayT</author>
	<datestamp>1243863120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>People are forgetting that this is not the same world that we grew up in. But I see no reason to panic.


My daughter started walking home from school this year so I got her a phone with GPS. We already had Sprint so we went with them.


Their "family locator" service costs $5/month and you can try it for free if you are already a Sprint user. I can track her via my phone or with a web browser. The service enables you to set up events that you are notified about. For example if my daughter is not home by 3:30 then I get a text message on my phone and my wife and I get an email with the details.


If you already use Sprint, you should look into this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>People are forgetting that this is not the same world that we grew up in .
But I see no reason to panic .
My daughter started walking home from school this year so I got her a phone with GPS .
We already had Sprint so we went with them .
Their " family locator " service costs $ 5/month and you can try it for free if you are already a Sprint user .
I can track her via my phone or with a web browser .
The service enables you to set up events that you are notified about .
For example if my daughter is not home by 3 : 30 then I get a text message on my phone and my wife and I get an email with the details .
If you already use Sprint , you should look into this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People are forgetting that this is not the same world that we grew up in.
But I see no reason to panic.
My daughter started walking home from school this year so I got her a phone with GPS.
We already had Sprint so we went with them.
Their "family locator" service costs $5/month and you can try it for free if you are already a Sprint user.
I can track her via my phone or with a web browser.
The service enables you to set up events that you are notified about.
For example if my daughter is not home by 3:30 then I get a text message on my phone and my wife and I get an email with the details.
If you already use Sprint, you should look into this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173747</id>
	<title>Re:Neural network...</title>
	<author>celtic\_hackr</author>
	<datestamp>1243851060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've already done that, unfortunately, the only learning algorithm available requires a 7-10 year programming period in order to obtain a sufficient stored information database and skill at detecting and solving potentially life threatening and yet initially non-trivial situations.</p><p>example situation:</p><p>All of the other children on the bus have left, and the designated authority figure has not taken you to your designated destination, do you:</p><p>a) ask the authority figure why he hasn't dropped you off yet,<br>b) wait patiently for the driver to take you to your destination,<br>c) lay down and take a nap,<br>d) get off the bus to check out the pretty flowers,<br>e) ask the bus driver to stop as you notice him pass a playground,<br>f) wait on the bus until after the driver finishes his route and leaves the bus, not noticing the child still on the bus, and then wait for the driver to come back until the bus gets hot and you pass out and die.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've already done that , unfortunately , the only learning algorithm available requires a 7-10 year programming period in order to obtain a sufficient stored information database and skill at detecting and solving potentially life threatening and yet initially non-trivial situations.example situation : All of the other children on the bus have left , and the designated authority figure has not taken you to your designated destination , do you : a ) ask the authority figure why he has n't dropped you off yet,b ) wait patiently for the driver to take you to your destination,c ) lay down and take a nap,d ) get off the bus to check out the pretty flowers,e ) ask the bus driver to stop as you notice him pass a playground,f ) wait on the bus until after the driver finishes his route and leaves the bus , not noticing the child still on the bus , and then wait for the driver to come back until the bus gets hot and you pass out and die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've already done that, unfortunately, the only learning algorithm available requires a 7-10 year programming period in order to obtain a sufficient stored information database and skill at detecting and solving potentially life threatening and yet initially non-trivial situations.example situation:All of the other children on the bus have left, and the designated authority figure has not taken you to your designated destination, do you:a) ask the authority figure why he hasn't dropped you off yet,b) wait patiently for the driver to take you to your destination,c) lay down and take a nap,d) get off the bus to check out the pretty flowers,e) ask the bus driver to stop as you notice him pass a playground,f) wait on the bus until after the driver finishes his route and leaves the bus, not noticing the child still on the bus, and then wait for the driver to come back until the bus gets hot and you pass out and die.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172989</id>
	<title>Re:GPS + SMS.</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1243848300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Easiest way would be to it respond to a 'ping'.</p></div><p>But then, every time she passes by a duck-filled pond, the phone bill will skyrocket.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Easiest way would be to it respond to a 'ping'.But then , every time she passes by a duck-filled pond , the phone bill will skyrocket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Easiest way would be to it respond to a 'ping'.But then, every time she passes by a duck-filled pond, the phone bill will skyrocket.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170861</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177913</id>
	<title>Kajeet</title>
	<author>Dragonmana117</author>
	<datestamp>1243879620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know a cell phone is probably bigger than a RFID bracelet, but the kajeet system is made for parents like you and is fairly cheep (under 40 a month) you could even make it sound like a allowance or reward for her. But best part is you can track them on your cell (assuming you have a smartphone).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know a cell phone is probably bigger than a RFID bracelet , but the kajeet system is made for parents like you and is fairly cheep ( under 40 a month ) you could even make it sound like a allowance or reward for her .
But best part is you can track them on your cell ( assuming you have a smartphone ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know a cell phone is probably bigger than a RFID bracelet, but the kajeet system is made for parents like you and is fairly cheep (under 40 a month) you could even make it sound like a allowance or reward for her.
But best part is you can track them on your cell (assuming you have a smartphone).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170987</id>
	<title>Make your kid memorize your cell phone number.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If she's old enough to ride a bus, she's old enough to remember a cell phone number and ask a responsible adult to call you when she's in the wrong place.</p><p>Teach her to take responsibility for herself, it will serve her better in the long run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If she 's old enough to ride a bus , she 's old enough to remember a cell phone number and ask a responsible adult to call you when she 's in the wrong place.Teach her to take responsibility for herself , it will serve her better in the long run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If she's old enough to ride a bus, she's old enough to remember a cell phone number and ask a responsible adult to call you when she's in the wrong place.Teach her to take responsibility for herself, it will serve her better in the long run.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28180647</id>
	<title>Statistical report</title>
	<author>silver007</author>
	<datestamp>1243950300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Number of posts: 951
Number of links to products: 4

Effective success rate:<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.0042</htmltext>
<tokenext>Number of posts : 951 Number of links to products : 4 Effective success rate : .0042</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Number of posts: 951
Number of links to products: 4

Effective success rate: .0042</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177511</id>
	<title>Name your child Anthrax</title>
	<author>incognito84</author>
	<datestamp>1243875060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you ever lose your kid, just run around screaming "Anthrax! Anthrax!" Until everyone runs away except for your child.
<br>
<br>
Well worth the Psychiatry bills, IMHO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you ever lose your kid , just run around screaming " Anthrax !
Anthrax ! " Until everyone runs away except for your child .
Well worth the Psychiatry bills , IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you ever lose your kid, just run around screaming "Anthrax!
Anthrax!" Until everyone runs away except for your child.
Well worth the Psychiatry bills, IMHO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28179361</id>
	<title>Re:Zoomback...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243939380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take a look at this too: http://www.lok8u.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a look at this too : http : //www.lok8u.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a look at this too: http://www.lok8u.com/</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170829</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171019</id>
	<title>Re:Drive her</title>
	<author>that IT girl</author>
	<datestamp>1243884540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You do realize this is impossible for an increasing percentage of the population, right? Hence the existence of buses to begin with.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize this is impossible for an increasing percentage of the population , right ?
Hence the existence of buses to begin with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize this is impossible for an increasing percentage of the population, right?
Hence the existence of buses to begin with.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172159</id>
	<title>Re:How about teaching</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1243888320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about you just teach your child what bus to get on. Or pick your child up from school. In 20 years are you going to want your child to think it is ok to track a person? Will your child be one of the ones that says "Well my parents tracked me as a child and I was fine, so lets let the government track us". The buses have numbers written on them just teach your child what number theirs. Once you advocate tracking people as a valid solution to a problem everyone is doing it.</p></div><ul> <li>Did your children sit in child restraint seats until they were 80lbs?</li><li>When you were a kid, were you photographed on closed circuit cameras from 235 different angles while you shopped?</li><li>Does your employer have access to read every single keystroke you type on your work computer?</li><li>Does your town have traffic lights that mail red-light running tickets to every single offender, thanks to automated video monitoring?</li><li>How old were your children when you quit using their crib monitors?  Did you use audio or video with night vision?</li></ul><p>

It's coming, whether you're ready or not.  If his daughter isn't mentally ready to handle checking bus numbers on her own (and, this will get easier when she has friends she knows on the bus - the first days of school are the hardest) maybe a tracking solution is in order.<br> <br>

We can hope he turns off the tracking solution before she goes out on her first date, though I bet that's about the time it will be coming back on again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about you just teach your child what bus to get on .
Or pick your child up from school .
In 20 years are you going to want your child to think it is ok to track a person ?
Will your child be one of the ones that says " Well my parents tracked me as a child and I was fine , so lets let the government track us " .
The buses have numbers written on them just teach your child what number theirs .
Once you advocate tracking people as a valid solution to a problem everyone is doing it .
Did your children sit in child restraint seats until they were 80lbs ? When you were a kid , were you photographed on closed circuit cameras from 235 different angles while you shopped ? Does your employer have access to read every single keystroke you type on your work computer ? Does your town have traffic lights that mail red-light running tickets to every single offender , thanks to automated video monitoring ? How old were your children when you quit using their crib monitors ?
Did you use audio or video with night vision ?
It 's coming , whether you 're ready or not .
If his daughter is n't mentally ready to handle checking bus numbers on her own ( and , this will get easier when she has friends she knows on the bus - the first days of school are the hardest ) maybe a tracking solution is in order .
We can hope he turns off the tracking solution before she goes out on her first date , though I bet that 's about the time it will be coming back on again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you just teach your child what bus to get on.
Or pick your child up from school.
In 20 years are you going to want your child to think it is ok to track a person?
Will your child be one of the ones that says "Well my parents tracked me as a child and I was fine, so lets let the government track us".
The buses have numbers written on them just teach your child what number theirs.
Once you advocate tracking people as a valid solution to a problem everyone is doing it.
Did your children sit in child restraint seats until they were 80lbs?When you were a kid, were you photographed on closed circuit cameras from 235 different angles while you shopped?Does your employer have access to read every single keystroke you type on your work computer?Does your town have traffic lights that mail red-light running tickets to every single offender, thanks to automated video monitoring?How old were your children when you quit using their crib monitors?
Did you use audio or video with night vision?
It's coming, whether you're ready or not.
If his daughter isn't mentally ready to handle checking bus numbers on her own (and, this will get easier when she has friends she knows on the bus - the first days of school are the hardest) maybe a tracking solution is in order.
We can hope he turns off the tracking solution before she goes out on her first date, though I bet that's about the time it will be coming back on again.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171307</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172029</id>
	<title>Make it illegal for parents to use it...</title>
	<author>Sabathius</author>
	<datestamp>1243887960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Make the system so that only the police or a government agency can use the system (and only then during emergencies), not the parent. It should be illegal for the parents to use it. Think about what I'm saying before flaming me in response.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Make the system so that only the police or a government agency can use the system ( and only then during emergencies ) , not the parent .
It should be illegal for the parents to use it .
Think about what I 'm saying before flaming me in response .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make the system so that only the police or a government agency can use the system (and only then during emergencies), not the parent.
It should be illegal for the parents to use it.
Think about what I'm saying before flaming me in response.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172225</id>
	<title>Re:Drive her</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Better yet, walk her!  More time together, and get her and you some (probably - this is slashdot) much needed exercise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Better yet , walk her !
More time together , and get her and you some ( probably - this is slashdot ) much needed exercise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Better yet, walk her!
More time together, and get her and you some (probably - this is slashdot) much needed exercise.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175793</id>
	<title>Re:Educate her</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1243860960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Teach your daughter this same thing. Make her memorize your phone number.</p></div><p> - and to play hockey.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Teach your daughter this same thing .
Make her memorize your phone number .
- and to play hockey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Teach your daughter this same thing.
Make her memorize your phone number.
- and to play hockey.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171145</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175025</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>Knara</author>
	<datestamp>1243856280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Generally the problem solves itself within the first couple days.  This isn't a vast conspiracy of incompetence, it's a kink that gets worked out at the start of every new kindergarten class.
</p><p>Getting on the wrong bus also makes the kid more aware of what bus he/she needs to be on to get home (did for me, i got on the wrong bus my first day in kindergarten... who wouldn't want to be on bus #1??)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Generally the problem solves itself within the first couple days .
This is n't a vast conspiracy of incompetence , it 's a kink that gets worked out at the start of every new kindergarten class .
Getting on the wrong bus also makes the kid more aware of what bus he/she needs to be on to get home ( did for me , i got on the wrong bus my first day in kindergarten... who would n't want to be on bus # 1 ? ?
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Generally the problem solves itself within the first couple days.
This isn't a vast conspiracy of incompetence, it's a kink that gets worked out at the start of every new kindergarten class.
Getting on the wrong bus also makes the kid more aware of what bus he/she needs to be on to get home (did for me, i got on the wrong bus my first day in kindergarten... who wouldn't want to be on bus #1??
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171379</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170871</id>
	<title>Simple Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Teach them their phone number and give them a bracelet or something with their address on it.</p><p>You should also probably stop watching television.  Give up on the news especially.  It's just scare mongering crap.</p><p>Oh and watch Finding Nemo.  It's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Teach them their phone number and give them a bracelet or something with their address on it.You should also probably stop watching television .
Give up on the news especially .
It 's just scare mongering crap.Oh and watch Finding Nemo .
It 's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Teach them their phone number and give them a bracelet or something with their address on it.You should also probably stop watching television.
Give up on the news especially.
It's just scare mongering crap.Oh and watch Finding Nemo.
It's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170945</id>
	<title>Two Words:  Disney Phone</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1243884240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go get her a Disney cell phone.  Parental managed GPS tracking from the web, call limiting, (you can lock it down to only being able to call home).</p><p>Google that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go get her a Disney cell phone .
Parental managed GPS tracking from the web , call limiting , ( you can lock it down to only being able to call home ) .Google that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go get her a Disney cell phone.
Parental managed GPS tracking from the web, call limiting, (you can lock it down to only being able to call home).Google that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171913</id>
	<title>Re:FWIW, searching Google for "subcutaneous GPS"..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... yields 36,9000 hits.</p> </div><p>Would that be 9,036 or 45,000 hits?</p><p>"Come to our BBBQ: The extra B stands for BYOBB"<br>"What's <i>that</i> extra B for?"<br>"That's a typo."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... yields 36,9000 hits .
Would that be 9,036 or 45,000 hits ?
" Come to our BBBQ : The extra B stands for BYOBB " " What 's that extra B for ?
" " That 's a typo .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... yields 36,9000 hits.
Would that be 9,036 or 45,000 hits?
"Come to our BBBQ: The extra B stands for BYOBB""What's that extra B for?
""That's a typo.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170831</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170815</id>
	<title>Lojack for Kids</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243883760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1. Take her to the doctor and have an implant embedded in her skull.

2. Go whining to the school board &amp; city council that they should raise taxes to fund a monitoring system for the entire city so youy cna keep track of your precious.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Take her to the doctor and have an implant embedded in her skull .
2. Go whining to the school board &amp; city council that they should raise taxes to fund a monitoring system for the entire city so youy cna keep track of your precious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Take her to the doctor and have an implant embedded in her skull.
2. Go whining to the school board &amp; city council that they should raise taxes to fund a monitoring system for the entire city so youy cna keep track of your precious.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171799</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>2short</author>
	<datestamp>1243887240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>"By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses."<br><br>Sounds to me like someone said "Sometimes kids get on the wrong bus", which is true in all school districts, and will be regardless of what you do to prevent it.  You just need to make sure it get's straightened out as quickly as possible, which it sounds like it was, if not before the submitter worked himself into a froth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" By the school district 's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses .
" Sounds to me like someone said " Sometimes kids get on the wrong bus " , which is true in all school districts , and will be regardless of what you do to prevent it .
You just need to make sure it get 's straightened out as quickly as possible , which it sounds like it was , if not before the submitter worked himself into a froth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses.
"Sounds to me like someone said "Sometimes kids get on the wrong bus", which is true in all school districts, and will be regardless of what you do to prevent it.
You just need to make sure it get's straightened out as quickly as possible, which it sounds like it was, if not before the submitter worked himself into a froth.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172117</id>
	<title>How long before...</title>
	<author>mario\_grgic</author>
	<datestamp>1243888200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>slashdotters start bragging they have compiled custom Linux kernel that runs on their kid?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>slashdotters start bragging they have compiled custom Linux kernel that runs on their kid ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>slashdotters start bragging they have compiled custom Linux kernel that runs on their kid?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174853</id>
	<title>Re:Don't try for a workaround. Try for a solution</title>
	<author>apocalypse2012</author>
	<datestamp>1243855380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its not his system to patch. And the system is compulsory. His only interest and responsibility is his kid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not his system to patch .
And the system is compulsory .
His only interest and responsibility is his kid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not his system to patch.
And the system is compulsory.
His only interest and responsibility is his kid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171143</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171363</id>
	<title>You're overthinking this</title>
	<author>Minwee</author>
	<datestamp>1243885680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First off, write a letter explaining what has happened and send it to your school board, city council, and local newspaper-who-might-give-a-crap-about-this-kind-of-thing.  Talk with your daughter's teachers, the school principal, and whoever else you need to to get some assurances that they're not going to do this again.
</p><p>Then, if you're still worried about your children being sent to the off-world colonies while you're not looking, talk with your daughter about what happened and how she can make sure she gets home on the right bus.  If you really want a technological solution then buy her a mobile phone, maybe something like <a href="http://www.fireflymobile.com/" title="fireflymobile.com">one of these beasties</a> [fireflymobile.com] which can be locked down to only calling a handful of numbers (not a product endorsement, just giving an example), and make sure she knows how to call you at home if she has trouble again.  Keep it charged and have her stash it in her jacket or backpack where she's unlikely to lose it.  There's no need to weld it onto a metal cuff around her ankle, just let her use it to call you when she needs to.
</p><p>Hopefully you can both feel better about her security that way.  You need to know that she is safe, and she needs to know that you trust her and that you are able to help her out if she has troubles.  Strapping a prisoner restraint collar around her neck and monitoring her every move isn't going to do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First off , write a letter explaining what has happened and send it to your school board , city council , and local newspaper-who-might-give-a-crap-about-this-kind-of-thing .
Talk with your daughter 's teachers , the school principal , and whoever else you need to to get some assurances that they 're not going to do this again .
Then , if you 're still worried about your children being sent to the off-world colonies while you 're not looking , talk with your daughter about what happened and how she can make sure she gets home on the right bus .
If you really want a technological solution then buy her a mobile phone , maybe something like one of these beasties [ fireflymobile.com ] which can be locked down to only calling a handful of numbers ( not a product endorsement , just giving an example ) , and make sure she knows how to call you at home if she has trouble again .
Keep it charged and have her stash it in her jacket or backpack where she 's unlikely to lose it .
There 's no need to weld it onto a metal cuff around her ankle , just let her use it to call you when she needs to .
Hopefully you can both feel better about her security that way .
You need to know that she is safe , and she needs to know that you trust her and that you are able to help her out if she has troubles .
Strapping a prisoner restraint collar around her neck and monitoring her every move is n't going to do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First off, write a letter explaining what has happened and send it to your school board, city council, and local newspaper-who-might-give-a-crap-about-this-kind-of-thing.
Talk with your daughter's teachers, the school principal, and whoever else you need to to get some assurances that they're not going to do this again.
Then, if you're still worried about your children being sent to the off-world colonies while you're not looking, talk with your daughter about what happened and how she can make sure she gets home on the right bus.
If you really want a technological solution then buy her a mobile phone, maybe something like one of these beasties [fireflymobile.com] which can be locked down to only calling a handful of numbers (not a product endorsement, just giving an example), and make sure she knows how to call you at home if she has trouble again.
Keep it charged and have her stash it in her jacket or backpack where she's unlikely to lose it.
There's no need to weld it onto a metal cuff around her ankle, just let her use it to call you when she needs to.
Hopefully you can both feel better about her security that way.
You need to know that she is safe, and she needs to know that you trust her and that you are able to help her out if she has troubles.
Strapping a prisoner restraint collar around her neck and monitoring her every move isn't going to do that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171115</id>
	<title>How about a "child lover service".</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1243884840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could simply hire one of their devices for a small fee, input the details of your child, age, hair colour, eye colour etc and a dedicated team of "child lovers" could follow the movements of your child on a web site for you 24 hours per day.</p><p>You <b>know</b> this is going to happen.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could simply hire one of their devices for a small fee , input the details of your child , age , hair colour , eye colour etc and a dedicated team of " child lovers " could follow the movements of your child on a web site for you 24 hours per day.You know this is going to happen .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could simply hire one of their devices for a small fee, input the details of your child, age, hair colour, eye colour etc and a dedicated team of "child lovers" could follow the movements of your child on a web site for you 24 hours per day.You know this is going to happen.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171165</id>
	<title>Ah, there is a standard Slashdot answer . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>. . . and doesn't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she's standing around in a strange neighborhood.</p></div><p> . . . give her a shark, with lasers.
</p><p>Forget that wimpy GPS stuff.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
and does n't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she 's standing around in a strange neighborhood .
. .
. give her a shark , with lasers .
Forget that wimpy GPS stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.
. .
and doesn't solve the problem of what happens to your daughter when she's standing around in a strange neighborhood.
. .
. give her a shark, with lasers.
Forget that wimpy GPS stuff.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171651</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>giorgiofr</author>
	<datestamp>1243886760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I lolled</htmltext>
<tokenext>I lolled</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lolled</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172393</id>
	<title>Re:How about teaching</title>
	<author>wurp</author>
	<datestamp>1243889340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In 20 years, high resolution cameras with always-on internet connections will cost $10 and will be everywhere, and software to identify people by gait/face/body structure/license plate recognition will be ubiquitous and open source. *Everyone* will know where you are all the time, not just the government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In 20 years , high resolution cameras with always-on internet connections will cost $ 10 and will be everywhere , and software to identify people by gait/face/body structure/license plate recognition will be ubiquitous and open source .
* Everyone * will know where you are all the time , not just the government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In 20 years, high resolution cameras with always-on internet connections will cost $10 and will be everywhere, and software to identify people by gait/face/body structure/license plate recognition will be ubiquitous and open source.
*Everyone* will know where you are all the time, not just the government.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171307</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171463</id>
	<title>#1 priority - security</title>
	<author>egburr</author>
	<datestamp>1243886160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't believe it didn't even make your list of requirements, but I would think the #1 priority would be that nobody, and I do mean nobody, should be able to gain access to the location info/tools without your express authorization, except maybe a confirmed police officer with a stated emergency need for it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe it did n't even make your list of requirements , but I would think the # 1 priority would be that nobody , and I do mean nobody , should be able to gain access to the location info/tools without your express authorization , except maybe a confirmed police officer with a stated emergency need for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe it didn't even make your list of requirements, but I would think the #1 priority would be that nobody, and I do mean nobody, should be able to gain access to the location info/tools without your express authorization, except maybe a confirmed police officer with a stated emergency need for it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171637</id>
	<title>They need to lose the bone</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1243886760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>
<a href="http://www.petsmobility.com/" title="petsmobility.com">http://www.petsmobility.com/</a> [petsmobility.com]

perfect product for tracking and recovery.  They will get smaller with time, but you really need the cell phone component in order to find the lost mammal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.petsmobility.com/ [ petsmobility.com ] perfect product for tracking and recovery .
They will get smaller with time , but you really need the cell phone component in order to find the lost mammal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
http://www.petsmobility.com/ [petsmobility.com]

perfect product for tracking and recovery.
They will get smaller with time, but you really need the cell phone component in order to find the lost mammal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170831</id>
	<title>FWIW, searching Google for "subcutaneous GPS"...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243883760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>... yields 36,9000 hits.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... yields 36,9000 hits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... yields 36,9000 hits.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172165</id>
	<title>I think I've heard this song before...</title>
	<author>rpresser</author>
	<datestamp>1243888320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I *swear* this is how one of Dr. Doofenshmirtz's schemes got started....</p><p>"It all goes back to when I was a child in Druselstein. My parents couldn't afford a magic marker and index cards, so they tried to get the school board to subsidize a GPS-based Child Locator System. And all the other kids laughed and laughed and laughed<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... so now I have made my SchoolBoardAnalRapeInator to get my revenge on those idiotic school boards once and for all!  Muahahahaha!!!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I * swear * this is how one of Dr. Doofenshmirtz 's schemes got started.... " It all goes back to when I was a child in Druselstein .
My parents could n't afford a magic marker and index cards , so they tried to get the school board to subsidize a GPS-based Child Locator System .
And all the other kids laughed and laughed and laughed .... so now I have made my SchoolBoardAnalRapeInator to get my revenge on those idiotic school boards once and for all !
Muahahahaha ! ! ! "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I *swear* this is how one of Dr. Doofenshmirtz's schemes got started...."It all goes back to when I was a child in Druselstein.
My parents couldn't afford a magic marker and index cards, so they tried to get the school board to subsidize a GPS-based Child Locator System.
And all the other kids laughed and laughed and laughed .... so now I have made my SchoolBoardAnalRapeInator to get my revenge on those idiotic school boards once and for all!
Muahahahaha!!!"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171069</id>
	<title>Title Ambiguity</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1243884660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe this "Making a Child" Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe this " Making a Child " Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe this "Making a Child" Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172725</id>
	<title>Re:Simple Solution</title>
	<author>Turidoth</author>
	<datestamp>1243847340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But the fish dad has a good reason to be over-protective (all his other kids and wife got eaten). Parent poster does not. Cell phone, and knowing home address is best bet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>But the fish dad has a good reason to be over-protective ( all his other kids and wife got eaten ) .
Parent poster does not .
Cell phone , and knowing home address is best bet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But the fish dad has a good reason to be over-protective (all his other kids and wife got eaten).
Parent poster does not.
Cell phone, and knowing home address is best bet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170871</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172481</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1243889700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you do realize that if someone was to abduct her the first thing they would do is probably throw the phone in the back of a passing pickup truck.</p><p>With kids you need something that is going to be concealed. I've read letter from pedophiles when I was studying criminal justice. The first thing they look for is a phone (and usually toss the backpack in a remote location as a red herring.)</p><p>I suggest something that resembles jewlery like a pendant. In the most grim of situations there is a chance the attacker would keep it as a trophy and at least find the monster. Same with teddy bears or anything that would seem personal to the child.</p><p>Hell the black berry would stick out like a sore thumb. Even something built into a shoe or belt... earrings if they are old enough...</p><p>As creepy as it is I think chipping people till 18 is a damn good idea. Throw out an Amber Alert and have positioning systems with good coverage.</p><p>Activate the Amber Alert and have a Google map EVERYONE can see the location of the reported child within a few hundred yards.</p><p>Hell the infrastructure wouldn't be too hard to deploy if you needed supplimental sensors (e.g. the overpass signs on the highway could be part of the sensor network with a 1/2 mile radius for instance.</p><p>From what I remember it is the first 6 hours that matter most in abductions and I wouldn't mind having my kids (if I had any) being chipped till 18. You could by the same token load the bus with an expected passenger manifest and scan each student as they got on with a report available (bus driver can then ask "are you sure your supposed to be on this bus? It says you are supposed to be on the Blue Hippo bus not the Yellow Giraff bus")</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you do realize that if someone was to abduct her the first thing they would do is probably throw the phone in the back of a passing pickup truck.With kids you need something that is going to be concealed .
I 've read letter from pedophiles when I was studying criminal justice .
The first thing they look for is a phone ( and usually toss the backpack in a remote location as a red herring .
) I suggest something that resembles jewlery like a pendant .
In the most grim of situations there is a chance the attacker would keep it as a trophy and at least find the monster .
Same with teddy bears or anything that would seem personal to the child.Hell the black berry would stick out like a sore thumb .
Even something built into a shoe or belt... earrings if they are old enough...As creepy as it is I think chipping people till 18 is a damn good idea .
Throw out an Amber Alert and have positioning systems with good coverage.Activate the Amber Alert and have a Google map EVERYONE can see the location of the reported child within a few hundred yards.Hell the infrastructure would n't be too hard to deploy if you needed supplimental sensors ( e.g .
the overpass signs on the highway could be part of the sensor network with a 1/2 mile radius for instance.From what I remember it is the first 6 hours that matter most in abductions and I would n't mind having my kids ( if I had any ) being chipped till 18 .
You could by the same token load the bus with an expected passenger manifest and scan each student as they got on with a report available ( bus driver can then ask " are you sure your supposed to be on this bus ?
It says you are supposed to be on the Blue Hippo bus not the Yellow Giraff bus " )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you do realize that if someone was to abduct her the first thing they would do is probably throw the phone in the back of a passing pickup truck.With kids you need something that is going to be concealed.
I've read letter from pedophiles when I was studying criminal justice.
The first thing they look for is a phone (and usually toss the backpack in a remote location as a red herring.
)I suggest something that resembles jewlery like a pendant.
In the most grim of situations there is a chance the attacker would keep it as a trophy and at least find the monster.
Same with teddy bears or anything that would seem personal to the child.Hell the black berry would stick out like a sore thumb.
Even something built into a shoe or belt... earrings if they are old enough...As creepy as it is I think chipping people till 18 is a damn good idea.
Throw out an Amber Alert and have positioning systems with good coverage.Activate the Amber Alert and have a Google map EVERYONE can see the location of the reported child within a few hundred yards.Hell the infrastructure wouldn't be too hard to deploy if you needed supplimental sensors (e.g.
the overpass signs on the highway could be part of the sensor network with a 1/2 mile radius for instance.From what I remember it is the first 6 hours that matter most in abductions and I wouldn't mind having my kids (if I had any) being chipped till 18.
You could by the same token load the bus with an expected passenger manifest and scan each student as they got on with a report available (bus driver can then ask "are you sure your supposed to be on this bus?
It says you are supposed to be on the Blue Hippo bus not the Yellow Giraff bus")</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172133</id>
	<title>Re:escape</title>
	<author>dkleinsc</author>
	<datestamp>1243888200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sounds like we're talking about a 6-year-old, not a 13-year-old. A 6-year-old is usually not trying to escape their parents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds like we 're talking about a 6-year-old , not a 13-year-old .
A 6-year-old is usually not trying to escape their parents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds like we're talking about a 6-year-old, not a 13-year-old.
A 6-year-old is usually not trying to escape their parents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174753</id>
	<title>I spent $20MM building such a system</title>
	<author>Rick Bentley</author>
	<datestamp>1243854960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Back in the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.com boom I started a telematics company, we had five-figures of devices on our system that we could track and control over the cellular control channel <a href="http://www.thebentleys.com/televoke" title="thebentleys.com">http://www.thebentleys.com/televoke/</a> [thebentleys.com], we merged it with Telcontar, they changed their name to deCarta (www.decarta.com) who spun it out to Lunar Eye who flipped it to Celevoke where the servers are running but it's about to move to a new home.  In fact, the guy (Chuck) who ran Celevoke into the ground still owes me personally ~$20k for helping him keep the system alive, but that's another story.  Here's what you're up against, it's a two part problem:<br> <br>
1) you need a device that knows where it is and talks to a wireless network<br>
2) you need a service to talk to that device and display the info on web/phone/whatever interface you want.<br> <br>
Back in 1998 when I started Televoke there was only the analog cellular network and no assisted GPS (quicker GPS location times from cold start based on cell tower location information; basically allows the device to get a fix much faster because it starts out with an idea where it is).  Analog cellular sucked because the standby current on the analog transceiver was too high, so, unless you were doing just a geo-fencing application (device goes outside of geographic boundary, then turn on and report the event and current location) the standby battery life of portable devices was too low and the devices were too big.  We went after the automotive after-market industry instead of tracking people/pets, since cars are size/weight/power insensitive.  Nowadays it's a different game.  You can get tracking devices that run for a month or three on AA batteries and live on a GSM network.  There are back end services out there too, the Televoke one is still running under a different name, but finding a product/service combo that will work exactly the way you want, and not cost a fortune, and be small enough to put on a kid, is hard.  Some services wont transmit unless queried.  Some can't take queries (no "forward channel") and only update every hour or so, or when in motion, or some other power/packet saving algorithm.  I'll give you the shortcut: <br> <br>
Buy your daughter a cellular phone, put it in a teddy bear or backpack or something she wont lose, charge it for her every night and track her on <a href="http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html#dc=gh0sla&amp;utm\_campaign=en&amp;utm\_source=gh0sla&amp;utm\_medium=ha&amp;utm\_term=google\%20latitude" title="google.com">Google Lattitude</a> [google.com].  That will seriously be your lowest cost headache and cheapest solution when it's all said and done.  As she gets older she'll WANT a cell phone and then you'll never lose her because she won't go anywhere with out.  By the time she's 16 there is a 0\% chance she'll keep the kiddie-finder attached to her wrist/belt/whatever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Back in the .com boom I started a telematics company , we had five-figures of devices on our system that we could track and control over the cellular control channel http : //www.thebentleys.com/televoke/ [ thebentleys.com ] , we merged it with Telcontar , they changed their name to deCarta ( www.decarta.com ) who spun it out to Lunar Eye who flipped it to Celevoke where the servers are running but it 's about to move to a new home .
In fact , the guy ( Chuck ) who ran Celevoke into the ground still owes me personally ~ $ 20k for helping him keep the system alive , but that 's another story .
Here 's what you 're up against , it 's a two part problem : 1 ) you need a device that knows where it is and talks to a wireless network 2 ) you need a service to talk to that device and display the info on web/phone/whatever interface you want .
Back in 1998 when I started Televoke there was only the analog cellular network and no assisted GPS ( quicker GPS location times from cold start based on cell tower location information ; basically allows the device to get a fix much faster because it starts out with an idea where it is ) .
Analog cellular sucked because the standby current on the analog transceiver was too high , so , unless you were doing just a geo-fencing application ( device goes outside of geographic boundary , then turn on and report the event and current location ) the standby battery life of portable devices was too low and the devices were too big .
We went after the automotive after-market industry instead of tracking people/pets , since cars are size/weight/power insensitive .
Nowadays it 's a different game .
You can get tracking devices that run for a month or three on AA batteries and live on a GSM network .
There are back end services out there too , the Televoke one is still running under a different name , but finding a product/service combo that will work exactly the way you want , and not cost a fortune , and be small enough to put on a kid , is hard .
Some services wont transmit unless queried .
Some ca n't take queries ( no " forward channel " ) and only update every hour or so , or when in motion , or some other power/packet saving algorithm .
I 'll give you the shortcut : Buy your daughter a cellular phone , put it in a teddy bear or backpack or something she wont lose , charge it for her every night and track her on Google Lattitude [ google.com ] .
That will seriously be your lowest cost headache and cheapest solution when it 's all said and done .
As she gets older she 'll WANT a cell phone and then you 'll never lose her because she wo n't go anywhere with out .
By the time she 's 16 there is a 0 \ % chance she 'll keep the kiddie-finder attached to her wrist/belt/whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back in the .com boom I started a telematics company, we had five-figures of devices on our system that we could track and control over the cellular control channel http://www.thebentleys.com/televoke/ [thebentleys.com], we merged it with Telcontar, they changed their name to deCarta (www.decarta.com) who spun it out to Lunar Eye who flipped it to Celevoke where the servers are running but it's about to move to a new home.
In fact, the guy (Chuck) who ran Celevoke into the ground still owes me personally ~$20k for helping him keep the system alive, but that's another story.
Here's what you're up against, it's a two part problem: 
1) you need a device that knows where it is and talks to a wireless network
2) you need a service to talk to that device and display the info on web/phone/whatever interface you want.
Back in 1998 when I started Televoke there was only the analog cellular network and no assisted GPS (quicker GPS location times from cold start based on cell tower location information; basically allows the device to get a fix much faster because it starts out with an idea where it is).
Analog cellular sucked because the standby current on the analog transceiver was too high, so, unless you were doing just a geo-fencing application (device goes outside of geographic boundary, then turn on and report the event and current location) the standby battery life of portable devices was too low and the devices were too big.
We went after the automotive after-market industry instead of tracking people/pets, since cars are size/weight/power insensitive.
Nowadays it's a different game.
You can get tracking devices that run for a month or three on AA batteries and live on a GSM network.
There are back end services out there too, the Televoke one is still running under a different name, but finding a product/service combo that will work exactly the way you want, and not cost a fortune, and be small enough to put on a kid, is hard.
Some services wont transmit unless queried.
Some can't take queries (no "forward channel") and only update every hour or so, or when in motion, or some other power/packet saving algorithm.
I'll give you the shortcut:  
Buy your daughter a cellular phone, put it in a teddy bear or backpack or something she wont lose, charge it for her every night and track her on Google Lattitude [google.com].
That will seriously be your lowest cost headache and cheapest solution when it's all said and done.
As she gets older she'll WANT a cell phone and then you'll never lose her because she won't go anywhere with out.
By the time she's 16 there is a 0\% chance she'll keep the kiddie-finder attached to her wrist/belt/whatever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171449</id>
	<title>Introduction to the Telephone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about giving your daughter some money and teaching her how to make a phone call?</p><p>When I was young my parents made me memorize two very important phone numbers: my home phone and 911.</p><p>If I got lost (which I did once when I was 8 years old) I called home. If no one was home, I called 911.</p><p>Live in a rural area? No problem, get your kid a cell-phone and make sure they understand it's to be used for emergencies only.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about giving your daughter some money and teaching her how to make a phone call ? When I was young my parents made me memorize two very important phone numbers : my home phone and 911.If I got lost ( which I did once when I was 8 years old ) I called home .
If no one was home , I called 911.Live in a rural area ?
No problem , get your kid a cell-phone and make sure they understand it 's to be used for emergencies only .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about giving your daughter some money and teaching her how to make a phone call?When I was young my parents made me memorize two very important phone numbers: my home phone and 911.If I got lost (which I did once when I was 8 years old) I called home.
If no one was home, I called 911.Live in a rural area?
No problem, get your kid a cell-phone and make sure they understand it's to be used for emergencies only.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173713</id>
	<title>Cellphone</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1243850940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So if something happens to her she can phone you. Completely voluntary, so there are no ethical objections to this, and it works just fine in situations like her getting on the wrong bus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So if something happens to her she can phone you .
Completely voluntary , so there are no ethical objections to this , and it works just fine in situations like her getting on the wrong bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if something happens to her she can phone you.
Completely voluntary, so there are no ethical objections to this, and it works just fine in situations like her getting on the wrong bus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172489</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243889700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly. Don't trust anybody. Best way to get through life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Do n't trust anybody .
Best way to get through life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Don't trust anybody.
Best way to get through life.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171653</id>
	<title>Re:Whoa..</title>
	<author>gwythaint</author>
	<datestamp>1243886760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Personally, I don't want to expose my child to 24/7 RF.</p><p>Too late.  Those fluorescent lights, cell phone towers, microwave ovens, computer monitors, and all the other modern conveniences kick off more than enough R/F</p><p>I think you are the one with the unhealthy attitude.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Personally , I do n't want to expose my child to 24/7 RF.Too late .
Those fluorescent lights , cell phone towers , microwave ovens , computer monitors , and all the other modern conveniences kick off more than enough R/FI think you are the one with the unhealthy attitude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Personally, I don't want to expose my child to 24/7 RF.Too late.
Those fluorescent lights, cell phone towers, microwave ovens, computer monitors, and all the other modern conveniences kick off more than enough R/FI think you are the one with the unhealthy attitude.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170869</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172421</id>
	<title>Roll your own</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243889460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At java one I ran across this, http://developer.sprint.com/devplayzone , which is an open use, web service front-end to network level calls on Sprint's network. I.E. from this you can call the location service from a simple html page that feeds its data into google maps. Its a little limited, i.e. you can only call the service once every five minutes for an actual update of location, it only accurate up to 100 meters, and you can only call it 250 times per day. To keep you from freaking out about teh big br0th3r you actually have to agree to being tracked by the service for that user, and you can remove your access from your account, its still pretty rough, but what do you expect for nothing<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) Granted you have to give your daughter a sprint phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At java one I ran across this , http : //developer.sprint.com/devplayzone , which is an open use , web service front-end to network level calls on Sprint 's network .
I.E. from this you can call the location service from a simple html page that feeds its data into google maps .
Its a little limited , i.e .
you can only call the service once every five minutes for an actual update of location , it only accurate up to 100 meters , and you can only call it 250 times per day .
To keep you from freaking out about teh big br0th3r you actually have to agree to being tracked by the service for that user , and you can remove your access from your account , its still pretty rough , but what do you expect for nothing ; ) Granted you have to give your daughter a sprint phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At java one I ran across this, http://developer.sprint.com/devplayzone , which is an open use, web service front-end to network level calls on Sprint's network.
I.E. from this you can call the location service from a simple html page that feeds its data into google maps.
Its a little limited, i.e.
you can only call the service once every five minutes for an actual update of location, it only accurate up to 100 meters, and you can only call it 250 times per day.
To keep you from freaking out about teh big br0th3r you actually have to agree to being tracked by the service for that user, and you can remove your access from your account, its still pretty rough, but what do you expect for nothing ;) Granted you have to give your daughter a sprint phone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173385</id>
	<title>Re:Zoomback...</title>
	<author>celtic\_hackr</author>
	<datestamp>1243849740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you for your informative and intelligent post!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you for your informative and intelligent post !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you for your informative and intelligent post!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170829</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172643</id>
	<title>Re:Outsource the Problem</title>
	<author>RagingFuryBlack</author>
	<datestamp>1243846980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cue Commercial:
<br>
Yep, there's an app for that..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cue Commercial : Yep , there 's an app for that. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cue Commercial:

Yep, there's an app for that..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170841</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172125</id>
	<title>Re:Here's My Answer:</title>
	<author>Etrias</author>
	<datestamp>1243888200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Notice that "taught" is in the past tense.  I'm beginning to see a trend here...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Notice that " taught " is in the past tense .
I 'm beginning to see a trend here.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Notice that "taught" is in the past tense.
I'm beginning to see a trend here...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170977</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28176839</id>
	<title>That's right blame everyone else...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243869300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done. By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses. "</p><p>Yeah... I can already tell you're going to be one of those asshole parents.</p><p>Grow the hell up.  Put a dollar in change in your child's hands and a piece of paper with important phone numbers to reach you, it's what my parents did for me and it worked just fine.  Problem solved and I didn't even need a cell phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" However , since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter , I have decided that something needs to be done .
By the school district 's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses .
" Yeah... I can already tell you 're going to be one of those asshole parents.Grow the hell up .
Put a dollar in change in your child 's hands and a piece of paper with important phone numbers to reach you , it 's what my parents did for me and it worked just fine .
Problem solved and I did n't even need a cell phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done.
By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses.
"Yeah... I can already tell you're going to be one of those asshole parents.Grow the hell up.
Put a dollar in change in your child's hands and a piece of paper with important phone numbers to reach you, it's what my parents did for me and it worked just fine.
Problem solved and I didn't even need a cell phone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175961</id>
	<title>You found the kid, yes?</title>
	<author>EEBaum</author>
	<datestamp>1243861980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was once lost for a considerable time in a department store.  Well, I knew exactly where I was.  I was in the elevator, because I was 3 or so and elevators are awesome!  And I wasn't going to leave the store without Mom.  Mom panicked, store management had everyone looking for me and guarded the exits.  Found me just fine.  I wasn't abducted.  I wasn't killed.  Societal mechanisms are in place to return wayward children to their parents in the vast majority of cases.  Yes, there can be a lot of panic involved, but I would be very interested in seeing statistics on how many lost children are recovered within a couple hours versus how many remain missing for longer periods.  Unfortunately, I don't think such statistics could be properly gathered, given how many such incidents are resolved without ever making a blip on statistic-gatherers' radar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was once lost for a considerable time in a department store .
Well , I knew exactly where I was .
I was in the elevator , because I was 3 or so and elevators are awesome !
And I was n't going to leave the store without Mom .
Mom panicked , store management had everyone looking for me and guarded the exits .
Found me just fine .
I was n't abducted .
I was n't killed .
Societal mechanisms are in place to return wayward children to their parents in the vast majority of cases .
Yes , there can be a lot of panic involved , but I would be very interested in seeing statistics on how many lost children are recovered within a couple hours versus how many remain missing for longer periods .
Unfortunately , I do n't think such statistics could be properly gathered , given how many such incidents are resolved without ever making a blip on statistic-gatherers ' radar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was once lost for a considerable time in a department store.
Well, I knew exactly where I was.
I was in the elevator, because I was 3 or so and elevators are awesome!
And I wasn't going to leave the store without Mom.
Mom panicked, store management had everyone looking for me and guarded the exits.
Found me just fine.
I wasn't abducted.
I wasn't killed.
Societal mechanisms are in place to return wayward children to their parents in the vast majority of cases.
Yes, there can be a lot of panic involved, but I would be very interested in seeing statistics on how many lost children are recovered within a couple hours versus how many remain missing for longer periods.
Unfortunately, I don't think such statistics could be properly gathered, given how many such incidents are resolved without ever making a blip on statistic-gatherers' radar.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171947</id>
	<title>Re:For my dog</title>
	<author>EvilGrin5000</author>
	<datestamp>1243887660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your problem is identical to the OP problem, but you are both looking to find a solution that does not address the problem, it only fixes the symptom.</p><p>What you both need is not a way to track down your lost daughter/dog, but a way to prevent them from getting lost in the first place!</p><p>- The OP needs to address the school district as to why in the hell they keep putting kids on the wrong bus on a regular basis and someone way up on the thread already suggested this (dkleinsc). In the mean time, I'd also take advice from blueZ3 where a better way to approach a solution and also impart useful lessons and skills is to have your daughter learn to ask for help from the appropriate people and learn her home address and number etc...</p><p>- You, (Charles Dodgeson) need to train your dog to not run away when she sees a bunny. Not to insult, but have you ever watched the dog whisperer? I swear that guy is a magician when it comes to dog training. <a href="http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/dogwhisperer/" title="cesarmillaninc.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/dogwhisperer/</a> [cesarmillaninc.com]</p><p>Just my $0.02</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your problem is identical to the OP problem , but you are both looking to find a solution that does not address the problem , it only fixes the symptom.What you both need is not a way to track down your lost daughter/dog , but a way to prevent them from getting lost in the first place ! - The OP needs to address the school district as to why in the hell they keep putting kids on the wrong bus on a regular basis and someone way up on the thread already suggested this ( dkleinsc ) .
In the mean time , I 'd also take advice from blueZ3 where a better way to approach a solution and also impart useful lessons and skills is to have your daughter learn to ask for help from the appropriate people and learn her home address and number etc...- You , ( Charles Dodgeson ) need to train your dog to not run away when she sees a bunny .
Not to insult , but have you ever watched the dog whisperer ?
I swear that guy is a magician when it comes to dog training .
http : //www.cesarmillaninc.com/dogwhisperer/ [ cesarmillaninc.com ] Just my $ 0.02</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your problem is identical to the OP problem, but you are both looking to find a solution that does not address the problem, it only fixes the symptom.What you both need is not a way to track down your lost daughter/dog, but a way to prevent them from getting lost in the first place!- The OP needs to address the school district as to why in the hell they keep putting kids on the wrong bus on a regular basis and someone way up on the thread already suggested this (dkleinsc).
In the mean time, I'd also take advice from blueZ3 where a better way to approach a solution and also impart useful lessons and skills is to have your daughter learn to ask for help from the appropriate people and learn her home address and number etc...- You, (Charles Dodgeson) need to train your dog to not run away when she sees a bunny.
Not to insult, but have you ever watched the dog whisperer?
I swear that guy is a magician when it comes to dog training.
http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/dogwhisperer/ [cesarmillaninc.com]Just my $0.02</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28179411</id>
	<title>When I was a child, about 3 years old</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243939680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We were out somewhere in the evening, it was kind of dark and I recall a carpark...</p><p>I climbed into the back seat of the wrong car and fell asleep.</p><p>I woke up at a police station and the police asking me questions, I was able to recite my full name, address and telephone number.</p><p>I guess I am lucky I didn't get discovered by a paedophile, but that's another story altogether.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We were out somewhere in the evening , it was kind of dark and I recall a carpark...I climbed into the back seat of the wrong car and fell asleep.I woke up at a police station and the police asking me questions , I was able to recite my full name , address and telephone number.I guess I am lucky I did n't get discovered by a paedophile , but that 's another story altogether .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We were out somewhere in the evening, it was kind of dark and I recall a carpark...I climbed into the back seat of the wrong car and fell asleep.I woke up at a police station and the police asking me questions, I was able to recite my full name, address and telephone number.I guess I am lucky I didn't get discovered by a paedophile, but that's another story altogether.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172629</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243846920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I would give the same advice, let's not forget that ultimately the child's safety comes down to one or two people: the parents. They will be the ones who will suffer the most if something bad happens to their child. So, the OP doesn't trust his school system to get his daughter on the right bus and wants to take extra precautions. I don't blame him for that.

Some of us would react differently, but to each his own. I would probably change school districts. If that isn't an option move to a new town or city. If that isn't an option, go to every school board meeting until everyone is aware how serious you are about your child's safety, and the other children in the district.

Bad things could have happened if the daughter had been dropped off in a completely foreign location and tried to find her own home, or panicked, etc. So maybe this parent isn't so over-the-top in his decision on how to protect his child.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I would give the same advice , let 's not forget that ultimately the child 's safety comes down to one or two people : the parents .
They will be the ones who will suffer the most if something bad happens to their child .
So , the OP does n't trust his school system to get his daughter on the right bus and wants to take extra precautions .
I do n't blame him for that .
Some of us would react differently , but to each his own .
I would probably change school districts .
If that is n't an option move to a new town or city .
If that is n't an option , go to every school board meeting until everyone is aware how serious you are about your child 's safety , and the other children in the district .
Bad things could have happened if the daughter had been dropped off in a completely foreign location and tried to find her own home , or panicked , etc .
So maybe this parent is n't so over-the-top in his decision on how to protect his child .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I would give the same advice, let's not forget that ultimately the child's safety comes down to one or two people: the parents.
They will be the ones who will suffer the most if something bad happens to their child.
So, the OP doesn't trust his school system to get his daughter on the right bus and wants to take extra precautions.
I don't blame him for that.
Some of us would react differently, but to each his own.
I would probably change school districts.
If that isn't an option move to a new town or city.
If that isn't an option, go to every school board meeting until everyone is aware how serious you are about your child's safety, and the other children in the district.
Bad things could have happened if the daughter had been dropped off in a completely foreign location and tried to find her own home, or panicked, etc.
So maybe this parent isn't so over-the-top in his decision on how to protect his child.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28178725</id>
	<title>Re:Drive her</title>
	<author>Ma8thew</author>
	<datestamp>1243975140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the most ridiculous thing I 've ever heard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171177</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171307</id>
	<title>How about teaching</title>
	<author>BlowHole666</author>
	<datestamp>1243885500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about you just teach your child what bus to get on. Or pick your child up from school. In 20 years are you going to want your child to think it is ok to track a person? Will your child be one of the ones that says "Well my parents tracked me as a child and I was fine, so lets let the government track us". The buses have numbers written on them just teach your child what number theirs. Once you advocate tracking people as a valid solution to a problem everyone is doing it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about you just teach your child what bus to get on .
Or pick your child up from school .
In 20 years are you going to want your child to think it is ok to track a person ?
Will your child be one of the ones that says " Well my parents tracked me as a child and I was fine , so lets let the government track us " .
The buses have numbers written on them just teach your child what number theirs .
Once you advocate tracking people as a valid solution to a problem everyone is doing it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about you just teach your child what bus to get on.
Or pick your child up from school.
In 20 years are you going to want your child to think it is ok to track a person?
Will your child be one of the ones that says "Well my parents tracked me as a child and I was fine, so lets let the government track us".
The buses have numbers written on them just teach your child what number theirs.
Once you advocate tracking people as a valid solution to a problem everyone is doing it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171503</id>
	<title>Google Latitude</title>
	<author>LaminatorX</author>
	<datestamp>1243886340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prepaid cellphone with long standby life in the pocket of her backpack or book bag.<b>Recharge the battery a couple nights a week.<b>Manage the lattitude account yourself to ensure only appropriate monitoring.</b></b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prepaid cellphone with long standby life in the pocket of her backpack or book bag.Recharge the battery a couple nights a week.Manage the lattitude account yourself to ensure only appropriate monitoring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prepaid cellphone with long standby life in the pocket of her backpack or book bag.Recharge the battery a couple nights a week.Manage the lattitude account yourself to ensure only appropriate monitoring.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174215</id>
	<title>It happened to me...</title>
	<author>pclminion</author>
	<datestamp>1243852680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I was in the 7th grade or so, I got on the wrong bus home from school. Since I would read on the bus, I didn't notice that the route was wrong until I looked up 20 minutes into the drive. I don't know why, but instead of telling the driver my situation, I just got off the bus. I had NO idea where I was. I walked several blocks one way, hoping I'd see something familiar. Failing that, I turned around and walked the other way. Still unfamiliar.</p><p>After a half hour I just walked to the nearest corner house, knocked on the door, and meekly asked to use a phone. My mom came and picked me up.</p><p>That was before everybody had a mobile phone. If I'd had one, I would have just called mom.</p><p>I find it hard to believe that a school-age child could not understand the concept of calling home if they get lost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in the 7th grade or so , I got on the wrong bus home from school .
Since I would read on the bus , I did n't notice that the route was wrong until I looked up 20 minutes into the drive .
I do n't know why , but instead of telling the driver my situation , I just got off the bus .
I had NO idea where I was .
I walked several blocks one way , hoping I 'd see something familiar .
Failing that , I turned around and walked the other way .
Still unfamiliar.After a half hour I just walked to the nearest corner house , knocked on the door , and meekly asked to use a phone .
My mom came and picked me up.That was before everybody had a mobile phone .
If I 'd had one , I would have just called mom.I find it hard to believe that a school-age child could not understand the concept of calling home if they get lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in the 7th grade or so, I got on the wrong bus home from school.
Since I would read on the bus, I didn't notice that the route was wrong until I looked up 20 minutes into the drive.
I don't know why, but instead of telling the driver my situation, I just got off the bus.
I had NO idea where I was.
I walked several blocks one way, hoping I'd see something familiar.
Failing that, I turned around and walked the other way.
Still unfamiliar.After a half hour I just walked to the nearest corner house, knocked on the door, and meekly asked to use a phone.
My mom came and picked me up.That was before everybody had a mobile phone.
If I'd had one, I would have just called mom.I find it hard to believe that a school-age child could not understand the concept of calling home if they get lost.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173345</id>
	<title>Re:Neural network...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243849620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A shark with lasers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A shark with lasers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A shark with lasers?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170995</id>
	<title>Instamapper</title>
	<author>222</author>
	<datestamp>1243884420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I used Instamapper on my Blackberry to provide real time / historical GPS tracking of myself. It's free, extremely easy to set up, and has Facebook integration. Be warned, GPS is a battery killer. I set all this up when I first became interested in location aware apps, and its run fine since.<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.instamapper.com/" title="instamapper.com">http://www.instamapper.com/</a> [instamapper.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I used Instamapper on my Blackberry to provide real time / historical GPS tracking of myself .
It 's free , extremely easy to set up , and has Facebook integration .
Be warned , GPS is a battery killer .
I set all this up when I first became interested in location aware apps , and its run fine since .
http : //www.instamapper.com/ [ instamapper.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used Instamapper on my Blackberry to provide real time / historical GPS tracking of myself.
It's free, extremely easy to set up, and has Facebook integration.
Be warned, GPS is a battery killer.
I set all this up when I first became interested in location aware apps, and its run fine since.
http://www.instamapper.com/ [instamapper.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170865</id>
	<title>My 6 Cents worth</title>
	<author>arizwebfoot</author>
	<datestamp>1243883940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Having two daughters my self - the last one graduating from HS this Friday, I understand the OP's concern, especially if the child is still in Grade School.

The Cell phone with GPS is your best bet, unless the school is banning cell phones (which my daughter's school tried to do).

Another option is car pooling where a parent picks up several kids at once and then the next parent the next day - etc.

Put your tin foil hat away, or your daughter will begin to see boogey men around every corner.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Having two daughters my self - the last one graduating from HS this Friday , I understand the OP 's concern , especially if the child is still in Grade School .
The Cell phone with GPS is your best bet , unless the school is banning cell phones ( which my daughter 's school tried to do ) .
Another option is car pooling where a parent picks up several kids at once and then the next parent the next day - etc .
Put your tin foil hat away , or your daughter will begin to see boogey men around every corner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having two daughters my self - the last one graduating from HS this Friday, I understand the OP's concern, especially if the child is still in Grade School.
The Cell phone with GPS is your best bet, unless the school is banning cell phones (which my daughter's school tried to do).
Another option is car pooling where a parent picks up several kids at once and then the next parent the next day - etc.
Put your tin foil hat away, or your daughter will begin to see boogey men around every corner.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171939</id>
	<title>buy, not build</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1243887660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Unless you're relentlessly geeky, don't try to build or assemble such a system.  There are commercial solutions out there, pick one of those.  Why depend on an amateur solution for your daughter's safety?
</p><p>
The simplest solution is to give the child a cell phone with GPS as a birthday present.  I know, cell phones aren't allowed in many schools, but if it's a small one and she can put it on "ignore" and hide it on her person or in her backpack, for use before or after school, no harm no foul.
</p><p>
And -- this is important -- that cell may be key if there's ever an incident at the school.  The most chilling text message I ever got from my daughter was that there had been a shooting and the school was in lockdown.  (It turned out ok, but that's a message I wouldn't wish on anyone.)  That's what brought it home to me.  It's not just the news, it can happen to you too.
</p><p>
As it happens, my daughter's current school does allow cell phones, but they are absolutely forbidden at her summer camp.  Screw that -- I tell her to put it in the bottom of her luggage and make sure nobody sees it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless you 're relentlessly geeky , do n't try to build or assemble such a system .
There are commercial solutions out there , pick one of those .
Why depend on an amateur solution for your daughter 's safety ?
The simplest solution is to give the child a cell phone with GPS as a birthday present .
I know , cell phones are n't allowed in many schools , but if it 's a small one and she can put it on " ignore " and hide it on her person or in her backpack , for use before or after school , no harm no foul .
And -- this is important -- that cell may be key if there 's ever an incident at the school .
The most chilling text message I ever got from my daughter was that there had been a shooting and the school was in lockdown .
( It turned out ok , but that 's a message I would n't wish on anyone .
) That 's what brought it home to me .
It 's not just the news , it can happen to you too .
As it happens , my daughter 's current school does allow cell phones , but they are absolutely forbidden at her summer camp .
Screw that -- I tell her to put it in the bottom of her luggage and make sure nobody sees it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Unless you're relentlessly geeky, don't try to build or assemble such a system.
There are commercial solutions out there, pick one of those.
Why depend on an amateur solution for your daughter's safety?
The simplest solution is to give the child a cell phone with GPS as a birthday present.
I know, cell phones aren't allowed in many schools, but if it's a small one and she can put it on "ignore" and hide it on her person or in her backpack, for use before or after school, no harm no foul.
And -- this is important -- that cell may be key if there's ever an incident at the school.
The most chilling text message I ever got from my daughter was that there had been a shooting and the school was in lockdown.
(It turned out ok, but that's a message I wouldn't wish on anyone.
)  That's what brought it home to me.
It's not just the news, it can happen to you too.
As it happens, my daughter's current school does allow cell phones, but they are absolutely forbidden at her summer camp.
Screw that -- I tell her to put it in the bottom of her luggage and make sure nobody sees it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171963</id>
	<title>Reminds me of Woz' Wheels of Zeus</title>
	<author>andika</author>
	<datestamp>1243887720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why did it shut down? too early? too intrusive?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why did it shut down ?
too early ?
too intrusive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why did it shut down?
too early?
too intrusive?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28180699</id>
	<title>Re:Simple Solution</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1243950720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Oh and watch Finding Nemo.  It's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.</p></div><p>WT-Flip is the lesson from Finding Nemo. That if you allow your kids any freedom then they'll get lost and probably end up incarcerated with other people before being sold (given for free in the film) on to a short life of neglect before death (in the film at the hands of the dentist's niece). If that happens then most likely your kids cell-buddies will help to bust them out through the toilet; or they may escape by playing dead and being dumped (down the sink). At this stage if you [Dad] survive the gangs (seagulls in the harbour) then you may eventually be reunited.</p><p>Thanks for the tip - I'm going home now and shackling my sons to the wall in their bedroom.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh and watch Finding Nemo .
It 's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.WT-Flip is the lesson from Finding Nemo .
That if you allow your kids any freedom then they 'll get lost and probably end up incarcerated with other people before being sold ( given for free in the film ) on to a short life of neglect before death ( in the film at the hands of the dentist 's niece ) .
If that happens then most likely your kids cell-buddies will help to bust them out through the toilet ; or they may escape by playing dead and being dumped ( down the sink ) .
At this stage if you [ Dad ] survive the gangs ( seagulls in the harbour ) then you may eventually be reunited.Thanks for the tip - I 'm going home now and shackling my sons to the wall in their bedroom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh and watch Finding Nemo.
It's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.WT-Flip is the lesson from Finding Nemo.
That if you allow your kids any freedom then they'll get lost and probably end up incarcerated with other people before being sold (given for free in the film) on to a short life of neglect before death (in the film at the hands of the dentist's niece).
If that happens then most likely your kids cell-buddies will help to bust them out through the toilet; or they may escape by playing dead and being dumped (down the sink).
At this stage if you [Dad] survive the gangs (seagulls in the harbour) then you may eventually be reunited.Thanks for the tip - I'm going home now and shackling my sons to the wall in their bedroom.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170871</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172949</id>
	<title>Happened to me!</title>
	<author>rotide</author>
	<datestamp>1243848120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nearly the exact same thing happened to me.<p>
I was quite little, maybe in 1st or 2nd grade.</p><p>
My mother was a single mom with a single child and I had to go to a babysitters after school.  Instead of going home, I'd be dropped off at my sitters.</p><p>
I believe it was my first day at the new sitters.  The sitter had a young child nearly my age at the time who attended the same school.  The sitter asked him to make sure I got on the correct bus.  Well, it didn't work that way.</p><p>
The school put me on the wrong bus.</p><p>
No one knew there was an issue, until the bus arrived at the sitters and the sitters son was crying saying he never saw me and thus I wasn't stepping off the bus with him.</p><p>
On my side, I don't think I knew anything was wrong until I was the last kid on the bus and the driver asked me where I was supposed to be going.  Again, it was a new sitters and I'm sure I replied that I wasn't sure.  I had SOME idea, however.  I know this because I was trying to instruct the bus driver as to where to go.  Interestingly enough, my family later moved to the same area and became familiar with it.  The route I was asking the driver to go wasn't too far off, only a couple streets away.  Regardless, it wasn't me who got me "home".</p><p>
I don't know the details on the other side too well.  But my mother had gotten word that I didn't get off the bus and called the school.  The school put her in touch with the dispatcher for the busses and they got in contact with my driver (whom I believe was in contact with them, but there wasn't a link between me and my mother yet).</p><p>
She simply told them where to go and the driver got me there.  A little fuss and I'm sure I was scared, but a simple phone call from those who knew where I was supposed to be and I was there shortly after.</p><p>
GPS, cell phones, computers as we know them, the internet as we know it, etc, etc, etc, didn't exist.  Yet I got home safe that day.</p><p>
Sometimes you CAN trust the system to work.  Just be informed as to when and where your child was supposed to be and you can pick up the trail quickly.  Even if my mother wasn't going to find out about the incident for a while and I was stranded longer, I have no doubt the school would have looked up records and figure it all out on their own.  At least they would have explored contacting the "contacts" list in my file, etc.</p><p>
If it was a malicious attempt to abduct me, I don't even think a cell/tracker would have helped.  Pretty sure someone will confiscate that quickly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nearly the exact same thing happened to me .
I was quite little , maybe in 1st or 2nd grade .
My mother was a single mom with a single child and I had to go to a babysitters after school .
Instead of going home , I 'd be dropped off at my sitters .
I believe it was my first day at the new sitters .
The sitter had a young child nearly my age at the time who attended the same school .
The sitter asked him to make sure I got on the correct bus .
Well , it did n't work that way .
The school put me on the wrong bus .
No one knew there was an issue , until the bus arrived at the sitters and the sitters son was crying saying he never saw me and thus I was n't stepping off the bus with him .
On my side , I do n't think I knew anything was wrong until I was the last kid on the bus and the driver asked me where I was supposed to be going .
Again , it was a new sitters and I 'm sure I replied that I was n't sure .
I had SOME idea , however .
I know this because I was trying to instruct the bus driver as to where to go .
Interestingly enough , my family later moved to the same area and became familiar with it .
The route I was asking the driver to go was n't too far off , only a couple streets away .
Regardless , it was n't me who got me " home " .
I do n't know the details on the other side too well .
But my mother had gotten word that I did n't get off the bus and called the school .
The school put her in touch with the dispatcher for the busses and they got in contact with my driver ( whom I believe was in contact with them , but there was n't a link between me and my mother yet ) .
She simply told them where to go and the driver got me there .
A little fuss and I 'm sure I was scared , but a simple phone call from those who knew where I was supposed to be and I was there shortly after .
GPS , cell phones , computers as we know them , the internet as we know it , etc , etc , etc , did n't exist .
Yet I got home safe that day .
Sometimes you CAN trust the system to work .
Just be informed as to when and where your child was supposed to be and you can pick up the trail quickly .
Even if my mother was n't going to find out about the incident for a while and I was stranded longer , I have no doubt the school would have looked up records and figure it all out on their own .
At least they would have explored contacting the " contacts " list in my file , etc .
If it was a malicious attempt to abduct me , I do n't even think a cell/tracker would have helped .
Pretty sure someone will confiscate that quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nearly the exact same thing happened to me.
I was quite little, maybe in 1st or 2nd grade.
My mother was a single mom with a single child and I had to go to a babysitters after school.
Instead of going home, I'd be dropped off at my sitters.
I believe it was my first day at the new sitters.
The sitter had a young child nearly my age at the time who attended the same school.
The sitter asked him to make sure I got on the correct bus.
Well, it didn't work that way.
The school put me on the wrong bus.
No one knew there was an issue, until the bus arrived at the sitters and the sitters son was crying saying he never saw me and thus I wasn't stepping off the bus with him.
On my side, I don't think I knew anything was wrong until I was the last kid on the bus and the driver asked me where I was supposed to be going.
Again, it was a new sitters and I'm sure I replied that I wasn't sure.
I had SOME idea, however.
I know this because I was trying to instruct the bus driver as to where to go.
Interestingly enough, my family later moved to the same area and became familiar with it.
The route I was asking the driver to go wasn't too far off, only a couple streets away.
Regardless, it wasn't me who got me "home".
I don't know the details on the other side too well.
But my mother had gotten word that I didn't get off the bus and called the school.
The school put her in touch with the dispatcher for the busses and they got in contact with my driver (whom I believe was in contact with them, but there wasn't a link between me and my mother yet).
She simply told them where to go and the driver got me there.
A little fuss and I'm sure I was scared, but a simple phone call from those who knew where I was supposed to be and I was there shortly after.
GPS, cell phones, computers as we know them, the internet as we know it, etc, etc, etc, didn't exist.
Yet I got home safe that day.
Sometimes you CAN trust the system to work.
Just be informed as to when and where your child was supposed to be and you can pick up the trail quickly.
Even if my mother wasn't going to find out about the incident for a while and I was stranded longer, I have no doubt the school would have looked up records and figure it all out on their own.
At least they would have explored contacting the "contacts" list in my file, etc.
If it was a malicious attempt to abduct me, I don't even think a cell/tracker would have helped.
Pretty sure someone will confiscate that quickly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171315</id>
	<title>It gives pedophiles the tools they need</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243885560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem with tracking is that if you can track your daughter, so can a determined pedophile. The only difference is that the pedophile will be watching her movements more closely than you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem with tracking is that if you can track your daughter , so can a determined pedophile .
The only difference is that the pedophile will be watching her movements more closely than you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem with tracking is that if you can track your daughter, so can a determined pedophile.
The only difference is that the pedophile will be watching her movements more closely than you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171407</id>
	<title>accutracking</title>
	<author>brokenhorse</author>
	<datestamp>1243885860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>www.accutracking.com
Works on just about any GPS enabled device. Virtually real time tracking (you define how often the device updates it's location to the server.)

It has google maps integration and has a "covert" install option for some evices. All that for $6 a month and no minimum contracts or autorenew subscriptions. Damn I sound like a salesman but I'm not, really.

I've used it to bust my teenage son ditching class and driving off with friends in locations I specifically told him not to go.</htmltext>
<tokenext>www.accutracking.com Works on just about any GPS enabled device .
Virtually real time tracking ( you define how often the device updates it 's location to the server .
) It has google maps integration and has a " covert " install option for some evices .
All that for $ 6 a month and no minimum contracts or autorenew subscriptions .
Damn I sound like a salesman but I 'm not , really .
I 've used it to bust my teenage son ditching class and driving off with friends in locations I specifically told him not to go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>www.accutracking.com
Works on just about any GPS enabled device.
Virtually real time tracking (you define how often the device updates it's location to the server.
)

It has google maps integration and has a "covert" install option for some evices.
All that for $6 a month and no minimum contracts or autorenew subscriptions.
Damn I sound like a salesman but I'm not, really.
I've used it to bust my teenage son ditching class and driving off with friends in locations I specifically told him not to go.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173159</id>
	<title>chip implant option?</title>
	<author>footitch</author>
	<datestamp>1243848960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've thought a lot abotu this myself.  Those of you who feel that this is an 'over protective parent' have not had a child abducted.  I have nto either but I can only imagine the torture that a parent must feel when such a horrible thing happens.  Unfortunately it happes all too often.

If I had the opportunity to simply login to a site to find my child (if ever such a horrible thing happend), I'd be oh so grateful to be able to find him/her in a rapid time.  Let's assume that the child's clothing and possessions are not with them at the time of abduction.

If we can put a chip into a pet, why not into a child?  Once the child is 18, they can remove/turn it off if they so choose.

I know i am not the only person who feels this way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've thought a lot abotu this myself .
Those of you who feel that this is an 'over protective parent ' have not had a child abducted .
I have nto either but I can only imagine the torture that a parent must feel when such a horrible thing happens .
Unfortunately it happes all too often .
If I had the opportunity to simply login to a site to find my child ( if ever such a horrible thing happend ) , I 'd be oh so grateful to be able to find him/her in a rapid time .
Let 's assume that the child 's clothing and possessions are not with them at the time of abduction .
If we can put a chip into a pet , why not into a child ?
Once the child is 18 , they can remove/turn it off if they so choose .
I know i am not the only person who feels this way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've thought a lot abotu this myself.
Those of you who feel that this is an 'over protective parent' have not had a child abducted.
I have nto either but I can only imagine the torture that a parent must feel when such a horrible thing happens.
Unfortunately it happes all too often.
If I had the opportunity to simply login to a site to find my child (if ever such a horrible thing happend), I'd be oh so grateful to be able to find him/her in a rapid time.
Let's assume that the child's clothing and possessions are not with them at the time of abduction.
If we can put a chip into a pet, why not into a child?
Once the child is 18, they can remove/turn it off if they so choose.
I know i am not the only person who feels this way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172497</id>
	<title>Definitely manage expectations...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243889760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... And try to resist the clarion call of fear, Fear, FEAR that causes many otherwise adjusted parents to think their child is on the cusp of being abducted. Constantly. Life is risk and, sadly enough sometimes kids are endangered. Statistically speaking, however, most citizens are good people and most kids are in more danger from "Uncle Ronald" than they are strangers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... And try to resist the clarion call of fear , Fear , FEAR that causes many otherwise adjusted parents to think their child is on the cusp of being abducted .
Constantly. Life is risk and , sadly enough sometimes kids are endangered .
Statistically speaking , however , most citizens are good people and most kids are in more danger from " Uncle Ronald " than they are strangers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... And try to resist the clarion call of fear, Fear, FEAR that causes many otherwise adjusted parents to think their child is on the cusp of being abducted.
Constantly. Life is risk and, sadly enough sometimes kids are endangered.
Statistically speaking, however, most citizens are good people and most kids are in more danger from "Uncle Ronald" than they are strangers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175641</id>
	<title>Android G1</title>
	<author>TheCabal</author>
	<datestamp>1243859880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get an Android G1 phone, turn on the GPS and install Pintail on it.</p><p>You SMS the phone, it replies with its location. Integrates with Google Maps</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get an Android G1 phone , turn on the GPS and install Pintail on it.You SMS the phone , it replies with its location .
Integrates with Google Maps</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get an Android G1 phone, turn on the GPS and install Pintail on it.You SMS the phone, it replies with its location.
Integrates with Google Maps</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170899</id>
	<title>Wrong Solution</title>
	<author>causality</author>
	<datestamp>1243884060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If this question came up a generation ago, before GPS trackers and similar devices were available, you would be looking for ways to better plan school events and to hold the schoolteachers and other school staff accountable for these kinds of mishaps.  I think that's the right way to deal with this, though it's not the easy band-aid solution that installing a tracking device would be.  In other words, the technological development of a wrong solution doesn't change what the right solution was all along.
<br> <br>
I just don't believe in this widespread approach of dealing only with the symptoms of problems.  I might consider it (though wouldn't like it one bit) if it were a material object, but the fact that this is a human being should be all the more reason to address the actual problem.  The irresponsibility of the school system and the fact that it has taken its obligations lightly is the actual core problem here.  A tracking device only provides an incentive for letting them off the hook when they should have to answer for their failures.  Yes, that would be much harder to arrange and would probably require political pressure from other like-minded parents, but it would be so much more worthwhile in the end.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If this question came up a generation ago , before GPS trackers and similar devices were available , you would be looking for ways to better plan school events and to hold the schoolteachers and other school staff accountable for these kinds of mishaps .
I think that 's the right way to deal with this , though it 's not the easy band-aid solution that installing a tracking device would be .
In other words , the technological development of a wrong solution does n't change what the right solution was all along .
I just do n't believe in this widespread approach of dealing only with the symptoms of problems .
I might consider it ( though would n't like it one bit ) if it were a material object , but the fact that this is a human being should be all the more reason to address the actual problem .
The irresponsibility of the school system and the fact that it has taken its obligations lightly is the actual core problem here .
A tracking device only provides an incentive for letting them off the hook when they should have to answer for their failures .
Yes , that would be much harder to arrange and would probably require political pressure from other like-minded parents , but it would be so much more worthwhile in the end .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this question came up a generation ago, before GPS trackers and similar devices were available, you would be looking for ways to better plan school events and to hold the schoolteachers and other school staff accountable for these kinds of mishaps.
I think that's the right way to deal with this, though it's not the easy band-aid solution that installing a tracking device would be.
In other words, the technological development of a wrong solution doesn't change what the right solution was all along.
I just don't believe in this widespread approach of dealing only with the symptoms of problems.
I might consider it (though wouldn't like it one bit) if it were a material object, but the fact that this is a human being should be all the more reason to address the actual problem.
The irresponsibility of the school system and the fact that it has taken its obligations lightly is the actual core problem here.
A tracking device only provides an incentive for letting them off the hook when they should have to answer for their failures.
Yes, that would be much harder to arrange and would probably require political pressure from other like-minded parents, but it would be so much more worthwhile in the end.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171499</id>
	<title>GPS Tagging Kids</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1243886280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; This is probably a bigger project than you want to take on, and you very likely won't get the result that you think you want.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; There are a few essential parts to what you're looking for.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 1) The GPS receiver, which must have a view of the sky.  It'll be hit and miss inside many vehicles, and probably worthless if she's sitting away from the windows in a bus, and unusable in a building.  At least you'll have an idea of the building she entered.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 2) The transmitter.  You can use a modified alphanumeric pager, but that hopes your modifications are perfect, and aren't prone to failure.  You can also use a cell phone or other cellular device (like a USB EVDO modem).  Pay attention to the rate plan that you pay for.  If it doesn't allow for unlimited data, don't send data once every 5 seconds.  If you send data once every 10 to 15 minutes, does that give you the resolution that you require??  15 minutes is one mile of walking for a normal person (average person's walking rate is 4mph).</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 3) Something to process the data to send out.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 4) Something to receive the data (your web server), map it, and display it to you.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 5) Batteries.  You'll have a limited lifespan on any device, so it will need recharging nightly.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I highly recommend one of the obvious choices.  Get her a cell phone.  Verizon used to sell a Chaperone phone, which only had 4 buttons that you could program.  They could be set to say call home, your cell, your wife's cell, and a neighbor.  It also sent GPS data up to their server, so you could either view from your Chaperone-Parent phone that was linked to it, or from their web site.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; You could also get any GPS enabled cell phone (not Verizon, they're pissy about enabling GPS), and put a whole variety of applications on it to send updates to somewhere.  Even Google Latitude may be an option, but I find sometimes it forgets to check in.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; You could also use something like a Garmin DC 30.  That's a GPS tracking device for animals.  It has a 17 hour battery life.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; If you're hell bent on building your own, consider this..</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 1)  You could get an Openmoko phone, which has integrated GPS, accelerometers, and (obviously) cell access.  You drop in any GSM SIM from the provider of your choice, and you're online.  It does run Linux, so you can write your own script to pull the GPS data, and upload it to the server.  It's cute and rubber covered, so it's less likely she'll break it by dropping it.  I don't suggest trying too many times though.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; 3) You could tie together a Gumstix computer, Gumstix GPS module, Verizon Wireless EVDO USB device, battery pack, and your own scripting to pull the GPS data.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Writing GPS software isn't impossible.  You can open the serial port and read the strings.  You have to read multiple strings to get all the data.  Then once you have a full dataset, upload it.  Alternatively, you can use GPSd, **IF** it will compile for the platform.  I've done both, it's up to you to which you use.  it was fun writing my own.  I'd probably go the GPSd route, since I've already done it, and don't feel the need to reinvent the wheel any more.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; You're not going to find the mythical devices that they use on TV and movies, that are a thread like GPS transmitter to sew into her jacket, that has an infinite battery life, and always sends the exact location, regardless of environmental variables (buildings, clouds, distance from cell networks).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    This is probably a bigger project than you want to take on , and you very likely wo n't get the result that you think you want .
    There are a few essential parts to what you 're looking for .
    1 ) The GPS receiver , which must have a view of the sky .
It 'll be hit and miss inside many vehicles , and probably worthless if she 's sitting away from the windows in a bus , and unusable in a building .
At least you 'll have an idea of the building she entered .
    2 ) The transmitter .
You can use a modified alphanumeric pager , but that hopes your modifications are perfect , and are n't prone to failure .
You can also use a cell phone or other cellular device ( like a USB EVDO modem ) .
Pay attention to the rate plan that you pay for .
If it does n't allow for unlimited data , do n't send data once every 5 seconds .
If you send data once every 10 to 15 minutes , does that give you the resolution that you require ? ?
15 minutes is one mile of walking for a normal person ( average person 's walking rate is 4mph ) .
    3 ) Something to process the data to send out .
    4 ) Something to receive the data ( your web server ) , map it , and display it to you .
    5 ) Batteries .
You 'll have a limited lifespan on any device , so it will need recharging nightly .
    I highly recommend one of the obvious choices .
Get her a cell phone .
Verizon used to sell a Chaperone phone , which only had 4 buttons that you could program .
They could be set to say call home , your cell , your wife 's cell , and a neighbor .
It also sent GPS data up to their server , so you could either view from your Chaperone-Parent phone that was linked to it , or from their web site .
    You could also get any GPS enabled cell phone ( not Verizon , they 're pissy about enabling GPS ) , and put a whole variety of applications on it to send updates to somewhere .
Even Google Latitude may be an option , but I find sometimes it forgets to check in .
    You could also use something like a Garmin DC 30 .
That 's a GPS tracking device for animals .
It has a 17 hour battery life .
    If you 're hell bent on building your own , consider this. .     1 ) You could get an Openmoko phone , which has integrated GPS , accelerometers , and ( obviously ) cell access .
You drop in any GSM SIM from the provider of your choice , and you 're online .
It does run Linux , so you can write your own script to pull the GPS data , and upload it to the server .
It 's cute and rubber covered , so it 's less likely she 'll break it by dropping it .
I do n't suggest trying too many times though .
    3 ) You could tie together a Gumstix computer , Gumstix GPS module , Verizon Wireless EVDO USB device , battery pack , and your own scripting to pull the GPS data .
    Writing GPS software is n't impossible .
You can open the serial port and read the strings .
You have to read multiple strings to get all the data .
Then once you have a full dataset , upload it .
Alternatively , you can use GPSd , * * IF * * it will compile for the platform .
I 've done both , it 's up to you to which you use .
it was fun writing my own .
I 'd probably go the GPSd route , since I 've already done it , and do n't feel the need to reinvent the wheel any more .
    You 're not going to find the mythical devices that they use on TV and movies , that are a thread like GPS transmitter to sew into her jacket , that has an infinite battery life , and always sends the exact location , regardless of environmental variables ( buildings , clouds , distance from cell networks ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    This is probably a bigger project than you want to take on, and you very likely won't get the result that you think you want.
    There are a few essential parts to what you're looking for.
    1) The GPS receiver, which must have a view of the sky.
It'll be hit and miss inside many vehicles, and probably worthless if she's sitting away from the windows in a bus, and unusable in a building.
At least you'll have an idea of the building she entered.
    2) The transmitter.
You can use a modified alphanumeric pager, but that hopes your modifications are perfect, and aren't prone to failure.
You can also use a cell phone or other cellular device (like a USB EVDO modem).
Pay attention to the rate plan that you pay for.
If it doesn't allow for unlimited data, don't send data once every 5 seconds.
If you send data once every 10 to 15 minutes, does that give you the resolution that you require??
15 minutes is one mile of walking for a normal person (average person's walking rate is 4mph).
    3) Something to process the data to send out.
    4) Something to receive the data (your web server), map it, and display it to you.
    5) Batteries.
You'll have a limited lifespan on any device, so it will need recharging nightly.
    I highly recommend one of the obvious choices.
Get her a cell phone.
Verizon used to sell a Chaperone phone, which only had 4 buttons that you could program.
They could be set to say call home, your cell, your wife's cell, and a neighbor.
It also sent GPS data up to their server, so you could either view from your Chaperone-Parent phone that was linked to it, or from their web site.
    You could also get any GPS enabled cell phone (not Verizon, they're pissy about enabling GPS), and put a whole variety of applications on it to send updates to somewhere.
Even Google Latitude may be an option, but I find sometimes it forgets to check in.
    You could also use something like a Garmin DC 30.
That's a GPS tracking device for animals.
It has a 17 hour battery life.
    If you're hell bent on building your own, consider this..
    1)  You could get an Openmoko phone, which has integrated GPS, accelerometers, and (obviously) cell access.
You drop in any GSM SIM from the provider of your choice, and you're online.
It does run Linux, so you can write your own script to pull the GPS data, and upload it to the server.
It's cute and rubber covered, so it's less likely she'll break it by dropping it.
I don't suggest trying too many times though.
    3) You could tie together a Gumstix computer, Gumstix GPS module, Verizon Wireless EVDO USB device, battery pack, and your own scripting to pull the GPS data.
    Writing GPS software isn't impossible.
You can open the serial port and read the strings.
You have to read multiple strings to get all the data.
Then once you have a full dataset, upload it.
Alternatively, you can use GPSd, **IF** it will compile for the platform.
I've done both, it's up to you to which you use.
it was fun writing my own.
I'd probably go the GPSd route, since I've already done it, and don't feel the need to reinvent the wheel any more.
    You're not going to find the mythical devices that they use on TV and movies, that are a thread like GPS transmitter to sew into her jacket, that has an infinite battery life, and always sends the exact location, regardless of environmental variables (buildings, clouds, distance from cell networks).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172957</id>
	<title>Re:Make your kid memorize your cell phone number.</title>
	<author>celtic\_hackr</author>
	<datestamp>1243848180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>She already knows how to spell her name and address. Has memorized the cell phones of both parents and can do numerous other astounding and miraculous feats. However at five years of age she doesn't have the mental capacity you would instill upon her. She will gladly accept a red balloon or chocolate from you or any other total and friendly stranger, as would probably 95\% of all five year olds.</p><p>She cannot be relied upon to always make the right choice, hence the need for rational adults or high-tech solutions.</p><p>My knee-jerk reaction doesn't mean I'm an ignorant and uninformed or inattentive parent, or one of those people always shouting "think of of children", as some posters believe. Although I expected such knee-jerk reactions. Thankfully there are also useful posts here, and a commercial solution that looks to fit most of my bill. Maybe, I'm overreacting, but it will give me peace of mind and I will wind up with a new toy to hack up later. Perhaps to be incorporated into an autonomous vehicle later.</p><p>I won't sit by and watch as others put my child at needless risk, simply because they aren't qualified for the job they are in. I don't think I'm asking too much that a school can keep track of, as it turns out about 85 kindergardners (it seems about 10-15\% of the parents are picking up their children, or they're just overreacting like me). the school has a total capacity for 500 students, and it hasn't reached capacity. Therefore my initial estimate of 200 was a bit high. How many paid professional people does it take to put 85 pre-K kids on buses?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>She already knows how to spell her name and address .
Has memorized the cell phones of both parents and can do numerous other astounding and miraculous feats .
However at five years of age she does n't have the mental capacity you would instill upon her .
She will gladly accept a red balloon or chocolate from you or any other total and friendly stranger , as would probably 95 \ % of all five year olds.She can not be relied upon to always make the right choice , hence the need for rational adults or high-tech solutions.My knee-jerk reaction does n't mean I 'm an ignorant and uninformed or inattentive parent , or one of those people always shouting " think of of children " , as some posters believe .
Although I expected such knee-jerk reactions .
Thankfully there are also useful posts here , and a commercial solution that looks to fit most of my bill .
Maybe , I 'm overreacting , but it will give me peace of mind and I will wind up with a new toy to hack up later .
Perhaps to be incorporated into an autonomous vehicle later.I wo n't sit by and watch as others put my child at needless risk , simply because they are n't qualified for the job they are in .
I do n't think I 'm asking too much that a school can keep track of , as it turns out about 85 kindergardners ( it seems about 10-15 \ % of the parents are picking up their children , or they 're just overreacting like me ) .
the school has a total capacity for 500 students , and it has n't reached capacity .
Therefore my initial estimate of 200 was a bit high .
How many paid professional people does it take to put 85 pre-K kids on buses ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>She already knows how to spell her name and address.
Has memorized the cell phones of both parents and can do numerous other astounding and miraculous feats.
However at five years of age she doesn't have the mental capacity you would instill upon her.
She will gladly accept a red balloon or chocolate from you or any other total and friendly stranger, as would probably 95\% of all five year olds.She cannot be relied upon to always make the right choice, hence the need for rational adults or high-tech solutions.My knee-jerk reaction doesn't mean I'm an ignorant and uninformed or inattentive parent, or one of those people always shouting "think of of children", as some posters believe.
Although I expected such knee-jerk reactions.
Thankfully there are also useful posts here, and a commercial solution that looks to fit most of my bill.
Maybe, I'm overreacting, but it will give me peace of mind and I will wind up with a new toy to hack up later.
Perhaps to be incorporated into an autonomous vehicle later.I won't sit by and watch as others put my child at needless risk, simply because they aren't qualified for the job they are in.
I don't think I'm asking too much that a school can keep track of, as it turns out about 85 kindergardners (it seems about 10-15\% of the parents are picking up their children, or they're just overreacting like me).
the school has a total capacity for 500 students, and it hasn't reached capacity.
Therefore my initial estimate of 200 was a bit high.
How many paid professional people does it take to put 85 pre-K kids on buses?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173117</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>DorkRawk</author>
	<datestamp>1243848840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember when I was in first grade I got on the wrong bus and ended up at the bus garage at the end of the line.  This was probably about 20 years ago when subdermal GPS was just a twinkle in some obsessive parent's eye.  Getting a whole bunch of kids in one place is like herding LOLcats, it's tricky and children are slippery.  <br>
<br>
You know what happened?  I was confused for a while, then someone drove me back to school.  I don't remember how it all played out but I must have gotten home eventually because I remember finishing 1st grad.  That was it.  End of story.  Stuff like this happens and it's not the end of the world.  And I remember it was kind of interesting as a little kid to see where all the buses when after they were done dropping kids off! <br>
<br>
Parents, think about the most interesting memories of your childhood.  I bet a lot of them involve doing things your parents didn't know about.  RAISE YOUR KIDS TO KNOW WHICH MISTAKES ARE OK TO MAKE!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember when I was in first grade I got on the wrong bus and ended up at the bus garage at the end of the line .
This was probably about 20 years ago when subdermal GPS was just a twinkle in some obsessive parent 's eye .
Getting a whole bunch of kids in one place is like herding LOLcats , it 's tricky and children are slippery .
You know what happened ?
I was confused for a while , then someone drove me back to school .
I do n't remember how it all played out but I must have gotten home eventually because I remember finishing 1st grad .
That was it .
End of story .
Stuff like this happens and it 's not the end of the world .
And I remember it was kind of interesting as a little kid to see where all the buses when after they were done dropping kids off !
Parents , think about the most interesting memories of your childhood .
I bet a lot of them involve doing things your parents did n't know about .
RAISE YOUR KIDS TO KNOW WHICH MISTAKES ARE OK TO MAKE !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember when I was in first grade I got on the wrong bus and ended up at the bus garage at the end of the line.
This was probably about 20 years ago when subdermal GPS was just a twinkle in some obsessive parent's eye.
Getting a whole bunch of kids in one place is like herding LOLcats, it's tricky and children are slippery.
You know what happened?
I was confused for a while, then someone drove me back to school.
I don't remember how it all played out but I must have gotten home eventually because I remember finishing 1st grad.
That was it.
End of story.
Stuff like this happens and it's not the end of the world.
And I remember it was kind of interesting as a little kid to see where all the buses when after they were done dropping kids off!
Parents, think about the most interesting memories of your childhood.
I bet a lot of them involve doing things your parents didn't know about.
RAISE YOUR KIDS TO KNOW WHICH MISTAKES ARE OK TO MAKE!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172261</id>
	<title>Re:Educate her</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1243888800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not all kids can handle this when they first ride the bus... the more you trust them to, the faster they will learn, but reality is that not everyone is "up to speed" when they are 7 years old.<br> <br>

When I was 6, I made my own oatmeal by boiling water in a pot on the stove and pouring it myself, put myself on the bus, and let myself in the house with a key I carried, mom and dad got home about an hour after my bus dropped me off.  I could handle it, and they really couldn't afford both daycare and the BMW.  My son is 7 and he needs someone to take him from the curb to the classroom every morning... not for lack of my trying to help him be as independent as possible.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not all kids can handle this when they first ride the bus... the more you trust them to , the faster they will learn , but reality is that not everyone is " up to speed " when they are 7 years old .
When I was 6 , I made my own oatmeal by boiling water in a pot on the stove and pouring it myself , put myself on the bus , and let myself in the house with a key I carried , mom and dad got home about an hour after my bus dropped me off .
I could handle it , and they really could n't afford both daycare and the BMW .
My son is 7 and he needs someone to take him from the curb to the classroom every morning... not for lack of my trying to help him be as independent as possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not all kids can handle this when they first ride the bus... the more you trust them to, the faster they will learn, but reality is that not everyone is "up to speed" when they are 7 years old.
When I was 6, I made my own oatmeal by boiling water in a pot on the stove and pouring it myself, put myself on the bus, and let myself in the house with a key I carried, mom and dad got home about an hour after my bus dropped me off.
I could handle it, and they really couldn't afford both daycare and the BMW.
My son is 7 and he needs someone to take him from the curb to the classroom every morning... not for lack of my trying to help him be as independent as possible.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172603</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>darthwader</author>
	<datestamp>1243846860000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>My wife and I were discussing these kinds of childhood adventures.  She once missed a stop on her bus, and didn't get to school.  The bus happened to drive past her daddy's office building, and she recognized it (from car trips where it was pointed out "that's where daddy works!".  She got off the bus, and went to the building's courtyard.  She played by herself all morning.  At lunchtime, lots of people came out to eat their lunch.  One person talked to her, and asked who she was and why she was there.  She (happy to talk to a complete stranger) gave her name and said her daddy works here.  The person got the daddy's name, daddy was notified, and she was quickly taken to school.</p><p>Likewise, I had lots of adventures when I was 4 or 5, taking my bicycle and dog and wandering far from home until I was hopelessly lost, hours later.  But I always found my way home, or found someone whom I could trust to help me, and it all worked out in the end.</p><p>This generation of children will never experience these adventures, since parents are able to keep 24x7 connection to their children.</p><p>If you don't get lost in your neighborhood at age 4, how are you going to handle backpacking in Thailand when you're 21?<br>If you never have to look at strange adults and judge which one is the safest to talk to when you have a problem, how are you going to be able to approach a member of the opposite sex at a high-school dance?<br>If you never practice getting out of a bad situation when you're 5, how are you going to deal with pressure from your boyfriend when you're 16?<br>If you are afraid to march into unknown territory when you are 6, how will you create a new product and a new market when you're CEO at age 46?</p><p>Life is all about getting hurt, healing, and becoming stronger as a result.  Kids need to live.</p><p>I don't actually blame the parents, I blame the technology.   Parenthood does strange things to a person's brain, and it is impossible for a healthy parent to want a child to suffer, even if it is good for the child.  I'm sure that if our parents could have shacked us with love the way current parents can, they would have.  And I'm sure we both would have been worse for the experience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife and I were discussing these kinds of childhood adventures .
She once missed a stop on her bus , and did n't get to school .
The bus happened to drive past her daddy 's office building , and she recognized it ( from car trips where it was pointed out " that 's where daddy works ! " .
She got off the bus , and went to the building 's courtyard .
She played by herself all morning .
At lunchtime , lots of people came out to eat their lunch .
One person talked to her , and asked who she was and why she was there .
She ( happy to talk to a complete stranger ) gave her name and said her daddy works here .
The person got the daddy 's name , daddy was notified , and she was quickly taken to school.Likewise , I had lots of adventures when I was 4 or 5 , taking my bicycle and dog and wandering far from home until I was hopelessly lost , hours later .
But I always found my way home , or found someone whom I could trust to help me , and it all worked out in the end.This generation of children will never experience these adventures , since parents are able to keep 24x7 connection to their children.If you do n't get lost in your neighborhood at age 4 , how are you going to handle backpacking in Thailand when you 're 21 ? If you never have to look at strange adults and judge which one is the safest to talk to when you have a problem , how are you going to be able to approach a member of the opposite sex at a high-school dance ? If you never practice getting out of a bad situation when you 're 5 , how are you going to deal with pressure from your boyfriend when you 're 16 ? If you are afraid to march into unknown territory when you are 6 , how will you create a new product and a new market when you 're CEO at age 46 ? Life is all about getting hurt , healing , and becoming stronger as a result .
Kids need to live.I do n't actually blame the parents , I blame the technology .
Parenthood does strange things to a person 's brain , and it is impossible for a healthy parent to want a child to suffer , even if it is good for the child .
I 'm sure that if our parents could have shacked us with love the way current parents can , they would have .
And I 'm sure we both would have been worse for the experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife and I were discussing these kinds of childhood adventures.
She once missed a stop on her bus, and didn't get to school.
The bus happened to drive past her daddy's office building, and she recognized it (from car trips where it was pointed out "that's where daddy works!".
She got off the bus, and went to the building's courtyard.
She played by herself all morning.
At lunchtime, lots of people came out to eat their lunch.
One person talked to her, and asked who she was and why she was there.
She (happy to talk to a complete stranger) gave her name and said her daddy works here.
The person got the daddy's name, daddy was notified, and she was quickly taken to school.Likewise, I had lots of adventures when I was 4 or 5, taking my bicycle and dog and wandering far from home until I was hopelessly lost, hours later.
But I always found my way home, or found someone whom I could trust to help me, and it all worked out in the end.This generation of children will never experience these adventures, since parents are able to keep 24x7 connection to their children.If you don't get lost in your neighborhood at age 4, how are you going to handle backpacking in Thailand when you're 21?If you never have to look at strange adults and judge which one is the safest to talk to when you have a problem, how are you going to be able to approach a member of the opposite sex at a high-school dance?If you never practice getting out of a bad situation when you're 5, how are you going to deal with pressure from your boyfriend when you're 16?If you are afraid to march into unknown territory when you are 6, how will you create a new product and a new market when you're CEO at age 46?Life is all about getting hurt, healing, and becoming stronger as a result.
Kids need to live.I don't actually blame the parents, I blame the technology.
Parenthood does strange things to a person's brain, and it is impossible for a healthy parent to want a child to suffer, even if it is good for the child.
I'm sure that if our parents could have shacked us with love the way current parents can, they would have.
And I'm sure we both would have been worse for the experience.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170905</id>
	<title>put a chip in her</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who finds her can scan her and then send her home. An entrepreneurial person can scan her and know where to send the ransom note and where to also send the pieces afterwards.</p><p>Or you can just give your kid a fucking cellphone with a GPS in it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who finds her can scan her and then send her home .
An entrepreneurial person can scan her and know where to send the ransom note and where to also send the pieces afterwards.Or you can just give your kid a fucking cellphone with a GPS in it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who finds her can scan her and then send her home.
An entrepreneurial person can scan her and know where to send the ransom note and where to also send the pieces afterwards.Or you can just give your kid a fucking cellphone with a GPS in it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170881</id>
	<title>Do you really want to do this?</title>
	<author>Albanach</author>
	<datestamp>1243884000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could make something with a smartphone I'm sure. The problems I see with that are, firstly that GPS wants line of sight to the satellites so the phone has to be obvious and secondly smartphones are desireable and expensive. Your child may now become a target for thieves.</p><p>
You could hide the phone, or use a small computer like a nokia n series and use a small bluetooth GPS unit. It could be placed unobtrusively on top of a backpack with the phone/computer inside. Trouble is the battery life on my bluetooth GPS is only a few hours. Much less than a school day. Your daughter probably doesn't want to be lugging a big battery pack around all day.</p><p>
Why not buy your daughter a cheap cell phone on a pay as you go plan and show her how to answer it. Next time you don't know where she is, you can call and ask her?</p><p>
I'm curious though. Were you ever out as a child and your parents didn't know exactly where you were?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could make something with a smartphone I 'm sure .
The problems I see with that are , firstly that GPS wants line of sight to the satellites so the phone has to be obvious and secondly smartphones are desireable and expensive .
Your child may now become a target for thieves .
You could hide the phone , or use a small computer like a nokia n series and use a small bluetooth GPS unit .
It could be placed unobtrusively on top of a backpack with the phone/computer inside .
Trouble is the battery life on my bluetooth GPS is only a few hours .
Much less than a school day .
Your daughter probably does n't want to be lugging a big battery pack around all day .
Why not buy your daughter a cheap cell phone on a pay as you go plan and show her how to answer it .
Next time you do n't know where she is , you can call and ask her ?
I 'm curious though .
Were you ever out as a child and your parents did n't know exactly where you were ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could make something with a smartphone I'm sure.
The problems I see with that are, firstly that GPS wants line of sight to the satellites so the phone has to be obvious and secondly smartphones are desireable and expensive.
Your child may now become a target for thieves.
You could hide the phone, or use a small computer like a nokia n series and use a small bluetooth GPS unit.
It could be placed unobtrusively on top of a backpack with the phone/computer inside.
Trouble is the battery life on my bluetooth GPS is only a few hours.
Much less than a school day.
Your daughter probably doesn't want to be lugging a big battery pack around all day.
Why not buy your daughter a cheap cell phone on a pay as you go plan and show her how to answer it.
Next time you don't know where she is, you can call and ask her?
I'm curious though.
Were you ever out as a child and your parents didn't know exactly where you were?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171923</id>
	<title>Re:Please don't think of the children.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What do you have against Macintosh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What do you have against Macintosh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What do you have against Macintosh?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170773</id>
	<title>Holy Crap! Calm down</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243883520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Holy crap- you are, what we in the biz call, an over-reacting parent. Calm down and take it easy before you destroy your daughter's life.<br> <br>That being said- verizon has an application for cell phones that lets you track your children- it's on get it now. I'm sure other carriers have something similar.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Holy crap- you are , what we in the biz call , an over-reacting parent .
Calm down and take it easy before you destroy your daughter 's life .
That being said- verizon has an application for cell phones that lets you track your children- it 's on get it now .
I 'm sure other carriers have something similar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Holy crap- you are, what we in the biz call, an over-reacting parent.
Calm down and take it easy before you destroy your daughter's life.
That being said- verizon has an application for cell phones that lets you track your children- it's on get it now.
I'm sure other carriers have something similar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171349</id>
	<title>ZPass tracks school-bus riders.</title>
	<author>fahrbot-bot</author>
	<datestamp>1243885680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have the school system check <a href="http://www.zonarsystems.com/products/ZPass\_Overview.html" title="zonarsystems.com">ZPass</a> [zonarsystems.com].<blockquote><div><p> <a href="http://securitysolutions.com/news/rfid-school-buses-0325/" title="securitysolutions.com">RFID Technology Keeps Track of School Bus Riders</a> [securitysolutions.com]
<br>
Seattle-based Zonar Systems has said it is providing RFID technology to the school bus industry to answer the iconic 1969-television question, "It's 10 p.m. Do you know where your children are?" The company's patented ZPass system identifies when and where a student enters or exits the school bus to enhance their safety and security.</p></div>
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	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have the school system check ZPass [ zonarsystems.com ] .
RFID Technology Keeps Track of School Bus Riders [ securitysolutions.com ] Seattle-based Zonar Systems has said it is providing RFID technology to the school bus industry to answer the iconic 1969-television question , " It 's 10 p.m. Do you know where your children are ?
" The company 's patented ZPass system identifies when and where a student enters or exits the school bus to enhance their safety and security .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have the school system check ZPass [zonarsystems.com].
RFID Technology Keeps Track of School Bus Riders [securitysolutions.com]

Seattle-based Zonar Systems has said it is providing RFID technology to the school bus industry to answer the iconic 1969-television question, "It's 10 p.m. Do you know where your children are?
" The company's patented ZPass system identifies when and where a student enters or exits the school bus to enhance their safety and security.

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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171125</id>
	<title>Context?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about the age of the daughter...are we talking about an 8 y/o getting on the wrong bus, or an 18 y/o...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about the age of the daughter...are we talking about an 8 y/o getting on the wrong bus , or an 18 y/o.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about the age of the daughter...are we talking about an 8 y/o getting on the wrong bus, or an 18 y/o...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170989</id>
	<title>please don't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>this is only slightly removed from one of those horrible child leashes. No child needs GPS tracking.
<br> <br>
if you are that worried about your child's safety, move to a nicer neighborhood. you'll make up the cost difference with years of therapy averted in the future.</htmltext>
<tokenext>this is only slightly removed from one of those horrible child leashes .
No child needs GPS tracking .
if you are that worried about your child 's safety , move to a nicer neighborhood .
you 'll make up the cost difference with years of therapy averted in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this is only slightly removed from one of those horrible child leashes.
No child needs GPS tracking.
if you are that worried about your child's safety, move to a nicer neighborhood.
you'll make up the cost difference with years of therapy averted in the future.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174163</id>
	<title>Cheapest easiest solution</title>
	<author>Protocron</author>
	<datestamp>1243852500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Make magazine had this covered back a while ago:</p><p><a href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy\_gps\_tracking.html" title="makezine.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy\_gps\_tracking.html</a> [makezine.com]<br><a href="http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy\_gps\_tracking\_with\_mologogo.html" title="makezine.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy\_gps\_tracking\_with\_mologogo.html</a> [makezine.com]</p><p>Mologogo with a cheap $60 cell phone.</p><p>Before your kid leaves for the day,  check her bag and make sure it's on and working properly.<br>When she gets home,  put the cell phone on the charger.</p><p>In the event that you loose your kid,  you check the website and Mologogo will tell you where the kid is at.<br>My phone can tell me where any of my friends are,  yours should to.</p><p>Easy peasy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Make magazine had this covered back a while ago : http : //blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy \ _gps \ _tracking.html [ makezine.com ] http : //blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy \ _gps \ _tracking \ _with \ _mologogo.html [ makezine.com ] Mologogo with a cheap $ 60 cell phone.Before your kid leaves for the day , check her bag and make sure it 's on and working properly.When she gets home , put the cell phone on the charger.In the event that you loose your kid , you check the website and Mologogo will tell you where the kid is at.My phone can tell me where any of my friends are , yours should to.Easy peasy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make magazine had this covered back a while ago:http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy\_gps\_tracking.html [makezine.com]http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2005/10/diy\_gps\_tracking\_with\_mologogo.html [makezine.com]Mologogo with a cheap $60 cell phone.Before your kid leaves for the day,  check her bag and make sure it's on and working properly.When she gets home,  put the cell phone on the charger.In the event that you loose your kid,  you check the website and Mologogo will tell you where the kid is at.My phone can tell me where any of my friends are,  yours should to.Easy peasy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172307</id>
	<title>Hmm Public School?</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1243888980000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Odd I went to private grade school and my bus driver knew every kids name on the bus. Never once did I ever here of a kids getting misplaced. Hell I even fell asleep on the bus once and the bus driver woke me up knowing I had got on the bus but hadn't got off the bus.</p><p>Sounds like a public school problem to me...</p><p>I heard the goverment is going to be making cars now. I wonder if they'll do the same quality job they did with public education....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Odd I went to private grade school and my bus driver knew every kids name on the bus .
Never once did I ever here of a kids getting misplaced .
Hell I even fell asleep on the bus once and the bus driver woke me up knowing I had got on the bus but had n't got off the bus.Sounds like a public school problem to me...I heard the goverment is going to be making cars now .
I wonder if they 'll do the same quality job they did with public education... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Odd I went to private grade school and my bus driver knew every kids name on the bus.
Never once did I ever here of a kids getting misplaced.
Hell I even fell asleep on the bus once and the bus driver woke me up knowing I had got on the bus but hadn't got off the bus.Sounds like a public school problem to me...I heard the goverment is going to be making cars now.
I wonder if they'll do the same quality job they did with public education....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172973</id>
	<title>Re:GPS + SMS.</title>
	<author>amohat</author>
	<datestamp>1243848240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"The people that want to rape and molest your daughter statistically are yourself or one of your brothers(-in-law)"</p><p>Great idea for a list. Let's rank, in order of probability, likely suspects in a given child's life.</p><p>Police will tell you that immediate suspect #1 in a woman's murder is husband/boyfriend or ex. I guess that's based on stats, though I've never actually seen them.</p><p>Whatever, the poster is a nutcase and is over-reacting. Get the kid a off-the-shelf cell phone device from the local cell company that offers kid-tracking GPS service. That way the kid can get a decent electronic safety net and the father can avoid the obsessive neurosis, maybe even focus a little more on quality time and less spooky surveillance psycho.</p><p>Last, this smacks of "uh I have this friend, and he wants to know how to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..." bullshit. What does this dude really have in mind, and why do i suspect it has more to do with a ongoing custody battle than the kids safety? Why not go with a commercial product/service that hits your credit card each month? What other reason than because dude wants to be able to hide his tracks and not have this "system" show up in court records? My predator alarm is ringing pretty loud on this one. Sounds like a good list of requirements for a high-tech kidnapper/stalker. What next, dude wants web cams in his daughter's bedroom...and bathroom...just to make sure she's "safe" ???? But he wants to keep the whole system off the grid, with remote shut-off, no doubt!!!!</p><p>What a good parent ought to do in this situation is become more physically involved in their kids life. Be at the school enough to know the drivers and teachers and the kids friends and their parents. Not just the asshole who freaks out when he experiences "bad customer service" at the school and is never heard from again. The schools will be as good as we make them, showing up only when you don't like something is hardly a positive contribution. That's just being selfish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" The people that want to rape and molest your daughter statistically are yourself or one of your brothers ( -in-law ) " Great idea for a list .
Let 's rank , in order of probability , likely suspects in a given child 's life.Police will tell you that immediate suspect # 1 in a woman 's murder is husband/boyfriend or ex .
I guess that 's based on stats , though I 've never actually seen them.Whatever , the poster is a nutcase and is over-reacting .
Get the kid a off-the-shelf cell phone device from the local cell company that offers kid-tracking GPS service .
That way the kid can get a decent electronic safety net and the father can avoid the obsessive neurosis , maybe even focus a little more on quality time and less spooky surveillance psycho.Last , this smacks of " uh I have this friend , and he wants to know how to ... " bullshit .
What does this dude really have in mind , and why do i suspect it has more to do with a ongoing custody battle than the kids safety ?
Why not go with a commercial product/service that hits your credit card each month ?
What other reason than because dude wants to be able to hide his tracks and not have this " system " show up in court records ?
My predator alarm is ringing pretty loud on this one .
Sounds like a good list of requirements for a high-tech kidnapper/stalker .
What next , dude wants web cams in his daughter 's bedroom...and bathroom...just to make sure she 's " safe " ? ? ? ?
But he wants to keep the whole system off the grid , with remote shut-off , no doubt ! ! !
! What a good parent ought to do in this situation is become more physically involved in their kids life .
Be at the school enough to know the drivers and teachers and the kids friends and their parents .
Not just the asshole who freaks out when he experiences " bad customer service " at the school and is never heard from again .
The schools will be as good as we make them , showing up only when you do n't like something is hardly a positive contribution .
That 's just being selfish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The people that want to rape and molest your daughter statistically are yourself or one of your brothers(-in-law)"Great idea for a list.
Let's rank, in order of probability, likely suspects in a given child's life.Police will tell you that immediate suspect #1 in a woman's murder is husband/boyfriend or ex.
I guess that's based on stats, though I've never actually seen them.Whatever, the poster is a nutcase and is over-reacting.
Get the kid a off-the-shelf cell phone device from the local cell company that offers kid-tracking GPS service.
That way the kid can get a decent electronic safety net and the father can avoid the obsessive neurosis, maybe even focus a little more on quality time and less spooky surveillance psycho.Last, this smacks of "uh I have this friend, and he wants to know how to ..." bullshit.
What does this dude really have in mind, and why do i suspect it has more to do with a ongoing custody battle than the kids safety?
Why not go with a commercial product/service that hits your credit card each month?
What other reason than because dude wants to be able to hide his tracks and not have this "system" show up in court records?
My predator alarm is ringing pretty loud on this one.
Sounds like a good list of requirements for a high-tech kidnapper/stalker.
What next, dude wants web cams in his daughter's bedroom...and bathroom...just to make sure she's "safe" ????
But he wants to keep the whole system off the grid, with remote shut-off, no doubt!!!
!What a good parent ought to do in this situation is become more physically involved in their kids life.
Be at the school enough to know the drivers and teachers and the kids friends and their parents.
Not just the asshole who freaks out when he experiences "bad customer service" at the school and is never heard from again.
The schools will be as good as we make them, showing up only when you don't like something is hardly a positive contribution.
That's just being selfish.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172227</id>
	<title>Kajeet does a lot of this</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also allows you to restrict who can call the phone and who the phone can call.<br>http://www.kajeet.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also allows you to restrict who can call the phone and who the phone can call.http : //www.kajeet.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also allows you to restrict who can call the phone and who the phone can call.http://www.kajeet.com/</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28180631</id>
	<title>Re:Outsource the Problem</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1243950180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1. Hack an iPhone or other smart phone to act as a torrent server over 3G<br>2. Fill the drive with Metallica tracks<br>3. Duct tape the phone to your daughter<br>4. If you need to know where she is, just ask the RIIA</p></div><p>The $10 Millions USD per month costs might be a bit of a struggle<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></div>
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<tokenext>1 .
Hack an iPhone or other smart phone to act as a torrent server over 3G2 .
Fill the drive with Metallica tracks3 .
Duct tape the phone to your daughter4 .
If you need to know where she is , just ask the RIIAThe $ 10 Millions USD per month costs might be a bit of a struggle .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Hack an iPhone or other smart phone to act as a torrent server over 3G2.
Fill the drive with Metallica tracks3.
Duct tape the phone to your daughter4.
If you need to know where she is, just ask the RIIAThe $10 Millions USD per month costs might be a bit of a struggle ...
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171473</id>
	<title>Not linux but open-source hardware at least...</title>
	<author>pozitron969</author>
	<datestamp>1243886160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since everyone seems to be jumping on the "Slow your roll" bandwagon.


I will offer a different suggestion for you.

Battery + Arduino + GPS module + cellphone = really complex but possible (I think) solution.

Good Luck!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since everyone seems to be jumping on the " Slow your roll " bandwagon .
I will offer a different suggestion for you .
Battery + Arduino + GPS module + cellphone = really complex but possible ( I think ) solution .
Good Luck !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since everyone seems to be jumping on the "Slow your roll" bandwagon.
I will offer a different suggestion for you.
Battery + Arduino + GPS module + cellphone = really complex but possible (I think) solution.
Good Luck!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174121</id>
	<title>GPS Enabled phones....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243852320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Doesn't Google Latitude or Twitter using a GPS enabled phone do just that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does n't Google Latitude or Twitter using a GPS enabled phone do just that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Doesn't Google Latitude or Twitter using a GPS enabled phone do just that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170841</id>
	<title>Outsource the Problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243883820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Hack an iPhone or other smart phone to act as a torrent server over 3G<br>2. Fill the drive with Metallica tracks<br>3. Duct tape the phone to your daughter<br>4. If you need to know where she is, just ask the RIIA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Hack an iPhone or other smart phone to act as a torrent server over 3G2 .
Fill the drive with Metallica tracks3 .
Duct tape the phone to your daughter4 .
If you need to know where she is , just ask the RIIA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Hack an iPhone or other smart phone to act as a torrent server over 3G2.
Fill the drive with Metallica tracks3.
Duct tape the phone to your daughter4.
If you need to know where she is, just ask the RIIA</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171079</id>
	<title>Re:Simple Solution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Oh and watch Finding Nemo. It's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.</p></div></blockquote><p>Is that lesson that you and all but one of your children are going to die within the first five minutes of the film no matter what you do?
</p><p>Or have you been watching different Disney films than I have?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh and watch Finding Nemo .
It 's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.Is that lesson that you and all but one of your children are going to die within the first five minutes of the film no matter what you do ?
Or have you been watching different Disney films than I have ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh and watch Finding Nemo.
It's got some lesson in there about being an overprotective parent.Is that lesson that you and all but one of your children are going to die within the first five minutes of the film no matter what you do?
Or have you been watching different Disney films than I have?
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172071</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>carmen2u</author>
	<datestamp>1243888080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Brilliant solution to a simple problem. Low tech is best here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Brilliant solution to a simple problem .
Low tech is best here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Brilliant solution to a simple problem.
Low tech is best here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174603</id>
	<title>Re:Educate her</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243854360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why?  Because I didn't have psychotic over-reacting parents.  I was smart enough to go "there is a problem here, I should fix it."<br>And I did.</p><p>Teach your daughter this same thing.  Make her memorize your phone number.</p></div><p>Great idea.. sadly that uses the elusive ability of "Common Sense". Common sense is typically taught by parents to the children. His reaction means he lacks that skill and thus, cannot teach it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
Because I did n't have psychotic over-reacting parents .
I was smart enough to go " there is a problem here , I should fix it .
" And I did.Teach your daughter this same thing .
Make her memorize your phone number.Great idea.. sadly that uses the elusive ability of " Common Sense " .
Common sense is typically taught by parents to the children .
His reaction means he lacks that skill and thus , can not teach it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Because I didn't have psychotic over-reacting parents.
I was smart enough to go "there is a problem here, I should fix it.
"And I did.Teach your daughter this same thing.
Make her memorize your phone number.Great idea.. sadly that uses the elusive ability of "Common Sense".
Common sense is typically taught by parents to the children.
His reaction means he lacks that skill and thus, cannot teach it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171145</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175389</id>
	<title>Where's the barcode scanners when you need them?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243858380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Generate a unique barcode number and place it on each child in the school.  Have teachers and bus drivers scan the barcode to match to a centralized database of where the children should be.   Problem solved.  Note: an RFID chip could also be planted on the children for the same effect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Generate a unique barcode number and place it on each child in the school .
Have teachers and bus drivers scan the barcode to match to a centralized database of where the children should be .
Problem solved .
Note : an RFID chip could also be planted on the children for the same effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Generate a unique barcode number and place it on each child in the school.
Have teachers and bus drivers scan the barcode to match to a centralized database of where the children should be.
Problem solved.
Note: an RFID chip could also be planted on the children for the same effect.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173201</id>
	<title>Free Open API for LBS for smartphones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243849080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Check out Xtify [http://www.xtify.com], it's a free LBS API for smart phones.  It allows you to call a simple rest based web service which will return the lat/lon amongst other things of the device.  It works based on cell tower, gps and wifi to gather location.</p><p>There is a sample implementation of it at http://seemywhere.com/marcy .</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out Xtify [ http : //www.xtify.com ] , it 's a free LBS API for smart phones .
It allows you to call a simple rest based web service which will return the lat/lon amongst other things of the device .
It works based on cell tower , gps and wifi to gather location.There is a sample implementation of it at http : //seemywhere.com/marcy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out Xtify [http://www.xtify.com], it's a free LBS API for smart phones.
It allows you to call a simple rest based web service which will return the lat/lon amongst other things of the device.
It works based on cell tower, gps and wifi to gather location.There is a sample implementation of it at http://seemywhere.com/marcy .</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171117</id>
	<title>Don't do it...</title>
	<author>eainmonster</author>
	<datestamp>1243884840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tracking your child is a path you really don't want to start down, unless you want to drive yourself (and them) insane with constantly watching every thing they do.

Threaten the school board with legal action.  They'll get their act together.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tracking your child is a path you really do n't want to start down , unless you want to drive yourself ( and them ) insane with constantly watching every thing they do .
Threaten the school board with legal action .
They 'll get their act together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tracking your child is a path you really don't want to start down, unless you want to drive yourself (and them) insane with constantly watching every thing they do.
Threaten the school board with legal action.
They'll get their act together.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172449</id>
	<title>put filesharing on her iPhone</title>
	<author>droidsURlooking4</author>
	<datestamp>1243889520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>setup Britney Spears mp3s sharing. Then the RIAA &amp; your two-faced service provider can locate her for you!</htmltext>
<tokenext>setup Britney Spears mp3s sharing .
Then the RIAA &amp; your two-faced service provider can locate her for you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>setup Britney Spears mp3s sharing.
Then the RIAA &amp; your two-faced service provider can locate her for you!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171037</id>
	<title>Falcom Mambo</title>
	<author>dago</author>
	<datestamp>1243884600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a dedicated solution, you can buy a Falcom Mambo (http://www.falcom.de/products/personal-tracker/mambo/)</p><p>Dedicated GPS tracker with an emergency button<br>Long battery life<br>Very Open</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a dedicated solution , you can buy a Falcom Mambo ( http : //www.falcom.de/products/personal-tracker/mambo/ ) Dedicated GPS tracker with an emergency buttonLong battery lifeVery Open</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a dedicated solution, you can buy a Falcom Mambo (http://www.falcom.de/products/personal-tracker/mambo/)Dedicated GPS tracker with an emergency buttonLong battery lifeVery Open</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28183047</id>
	<title>Commercial product</title>
	<author>Feezle</author>
	<datestamp>1243960260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not what the OP is looking for, but <a href="http://www.projo.com/news/content/BZ\_SCHOOLBUS\_RITESOLUTIONS\_05-26-09\_O7EBD4L\_v22.3441480.html" title="projo.com" rel="nofollow">here's a commercial product</a> [projo.com] that tracks buses and children using GPS and RFID.<br>

Yeah, I know.  Big Brother, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not what the OP is looking for , but here 's a commercial product [ projo.com ] that tracks buses and children using GPS and RFID .
Yeah , I know .
Big Brother , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not what the OP is looking for, but here's a commercial product [projo.com] that tracks buses and children using GPS and RFID.
Yeah, I know.
Big Brother, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172835</id>
	<title>cell phone ?</title>
	<author>Yvanhoe</author>
	<datestamp>1243847760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just give her a cell phone ? So that she can call for help ?<br> <br>
I must confess, when I read "Child Locating System" I thought that this would surely help pedophiles more than parents. I mean, a lost chil emitting a beacon, what more could they ask for ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just give her a cell phone ?
So that she can call for help ?
I must confess , when I read " Child Locating System " I thought that this would surely help pedophiles more than parents .
I mean , a lost chil emitting a beacon , what more could they ask for ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just give her a cell phone ?
So that she can call for help ?
I must confess, when I read "Child Locating System" I thought that this would surely help pedophiles more than parents.
I mean, a lost chil emitting a beacon, what more could they ask for ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171399</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>northernboy</author>
	<datestamp>1243885860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, the school *HAS* to fix this problem.</p><p>0.  IANAL.  You might want to discuss some of this *with* a lawyer.</p><p>1.  School principals are "peace officers"</p><p>2.  When you deliver you child to school (in this case to the school bus that picks her up), you have transferred custody of your child to the school.  The school is responsibe for the safety and well-being of all the children in their custody in a very specific and technical way under the law.</p><p>3.  When you pick up your child, the school is transferring their custody back to you.  This is why you have to sign him/her out formally when something like a doctor's appointment interrupts the school day.  I'm not entirely sure how the bus fits in at this end, but while on the bus, your child is still in the school's custody.</p><p>You need to help your local 'peace officer' recognize and apply appropriate resources to solving their very real custody problem.</p><p>IANAL.  YMMV.  I'm glad your particular incident ended well. But consider the public service you would be doing while helping this school to prevent a far more serious incident.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , the school * HAS * to fix this problem.0 .
IANAL. You might want to discuss some of this * with * a lawyer.1 .
School principals are " peace officers " 2 .
When you deliver you child to school ( in this case to the school bus that picks her up ) , you have transferred custody of your child to the school .
The school is responsibe for the safety and well-being of all the children in their custody in a very specific and technical way under the law.3 .
When you pick up your child , the school is transferring their custody back to you .
This is why you have to sign him/her out formally when something like a doctor 's appointment interrupts the school day .
I 'm not entirely sure how the bus fits in at this end , but while on the bus , your child is still in the school 's custody.You need to help your local 'peace officer ' recognize and apply appropriate resources to solving their very real custody problem.IANAL .
YMMV. I 'm glad your particular incident ended well .
But consider the public service you would be doing while helping this school to prevent a far more serious incident .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, the school *HAS* to fix this problem.0.
IANAL.  You might want to discuss some of this *with* a lawyer.1.
School principals are "peace officers"2.
When you deliver you child to school (in this case to the school bus that picks her up), you have transferred custody of your child to the school.
The school is responsibe for the safety and well-being of all the children in their custody in a very specific and technical way under the law.3.
When you pick up your child, the school is transferring their custody back to you.
This is why you have to sign him/her out formally when something like a doctor's appointment interrupts the school day.
I'm not entirely sure how the bus fits in at this end, but while on the bus, your child is still in the school's custody.You need to help your local 'peace officer' recognize and apply appropriate resources to solving their very real custody problem.IANAL.
YMMV.  I'm glad your particular incident ended well.
But consider the public service you would be doing while helping this school to prevent a far more serious incident.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177743</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>Max Romantschuk</author>
	<datestamp>1243877640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Now, none of that is necessary.  She carries a Blackberry Curve and I can check her location via Google Latitude on my own Blackberry.  She knows that this is not because I don't trust her, but because I don't trust everyone else.  Besides, she can also see my location, which forestalls "Daddy, when are you going to get here?"</p></div><p>While I fall into the don't overreact -crowd here, I have to say that given your implementation of mutual monitoring/information sharing it's much more sensible. I like the idea that while you can see her location she can see yours too. Not sure I'd want my own kids tracking me though...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , none of that is necessary .
She carries a Blackberry Curve and I can check her location via Google Latitude on my own Blackberry .
She knows that this is not because I do n't trust her , but because I do n't trust everyone else .
Besides , she can also see my location , which forestalls " Daddy , when are you going to get here ?
" While I fall into the do n't overreact -crowd here , I have to say that given your implementation of mutual monitoring/information sharing it 's much more sensible .
I like the idea that while you can see her location she can see yours too .
Not sure I 'd want my own kids tracking me though... : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, none of that is necessary.
She carries a Blackberry Curve and I can check her location via Google Latitude on my own Blackberry.
She knows that this is not because I don't trust her, but because I don't trust everyone else.
Besides, she can also see my location, which forestalls "Daddy, when are you going to get here?
"While I fall into the don't overreact -crowd here, I have to say that given your implementation of mutual monitoring/information sharing it's much more sensible.
I like the idea that while you can see her location she can see yours too.
Not sure I'd want my own kids tracking me though... :)
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171465</id>
	<title>Cell Phone, EOL</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1243886160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's some suggestions for cell phones coupled with GPS options, but you really don't even need that.  You can get her a cheap cell phone, and if you want to know where she is, just call her and ask.  Get a little trust going, don't spy on her all the time with GPS.  If you can't get a hold of her the cell phone can also act as a locator if it's really needed (cell phone companies are required to be able to pin point a phone's location for the police).</p><p>But I think constant GPS surveillance ability on a cell or some sort of other GPS tracking device is really too much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's some suggestions for cell phones coupled with GPS options , but you really do n't even need that .
You can get her a cheap cell phone , and if you want to know where she is , just call her and ask .
Get a little trust going , do n't spy on her all the time with GPS .
If you ca n't get a hold of her the cell phone can also act as a locator if it 's really needed ( cell phone companies are required to be able to pin point a phone 's location for the police ) .But I think constant GPS surveillance ability on a cell or some sort of other GPS tracking device is really too much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's some suggestions for cell phones coupled with GPS options, but you really don't even need that.
You can get her a cheap cell phone, and if you want to know where she is, just call her and ask.
Get a little trust going, don't spy on her all the time with GPS.
If you can't get a hold of her the cell phone can also act as a locator if it's really needed (cell phone companies are required to be able to pin point a phone's location for the police).But I think constant GPS surveillance ability on a cell or some sort of other GPS tracking device is really too much.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175947</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243861920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Adam Walsh didn't make it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Adam Walsh did n't make it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adam Walsh didn't make it...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173677</id>
	<title>Evil Bad Schools!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243850760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Fortunately, my daughter was located, with no thanks to the local school district.</p></div><p>Then how exactly was your daughter located, considering she was placed on the wrong school bus. Friend? Relative? Concerned neighbor? Act of the Almighty Bob? Or is this really just a dig a public schools 'cause they are so crappy and all?</p><p>I think the district might have had SOME small part in finding her, don't you?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately , my daughter was located , with no thanks to the local school district.Then how exactly was your daughter located , considering she was placed on the wrong school bus .
Friend ? Relative ?
Concerned neighbor ?
Act of the Almighty Bob ?
Or is this really just a dig a public schools 'cause they are so crappy and all ? I think the district might have had SOME small part in finding her , do n't you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fortunately, my daughter was located, with no thanks to the local school district.Then how exactly was your daughter located, considering she was placed on the wrong school bus.
Friend? Relative?
Concerned neighbor?
Act of the Almighty Bob?
Or is this really just a dig a public schools 'cause they are so crappy and all?I think the district might have had SOME small part in finding her, don't you?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174671</id>
	<title>CptAmerica</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243854660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always wondering whats going on in the united states? Wouldn't it be better to teach your children to know her- himselfe which bus should be taken? In our country children know where to go an which bus is to be taken, or if the take the wrong one anyway there still is the joker to use a cellular phone and call the parents to be picked up.<br>What you a trying to do is, to lock them down like a felon, they get stolen their privacy, they live in jail, nothing anybody wants to do.<br>Think about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always wondering whats going on in the united states ?
Would n't it be better to teach your children to know her- himselfe which bus should be taken ?
In our country children know where to go an which bus is to be taken , or if the take the wrong one anyway there still is the joker to use a cellular phone and call the parents to be picked up.What you a trying to do is , to lock them down like a felon , they get stolen their privacy , they live in jail , nothing anybody wants to do.Think about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always wondering whats going on in the united states?
Wouldn't it be better to teach your children to know her- himselfe which bus should be taken?
In our country children know where to go an which bus is to be taken, or if the take the wrong one anyway there still is the joker to use a cellular phone and call the parents to be picked up.What you a trying to do is, to lock them down like a felon, they get stolen their privacy, they live in jail, nothing anybody wants to do.Think about it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170921</id>
	<title>Neural network...</title>
	<author>n3umh</author>
	<datestamp>1243884120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>All you need to do is devise a complex computer with some decision making abilities and program it with information with destination coordinates in case it gets lost.<br> <br>

Program it to recognize a local authority figure like a policeman or teacher and provide them with the destination information so that they can help it find home.<br> <br>

I suspect the most effective hardware platform for such an application is some sort of fairly high-functioning biological organism.</htmltext>
<tokenext>All you need to do is devise a complex computer with some decision making abilities and program it with information with destination coordinates in case it gets lost .
Program it to recognize a local authority figure like a policeman or teacher and provide them with the destination information so that they can help it find home .
I suspect the most effective hardware platform for such an application is some sort of fairly high-functioning biological organism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All you need to do is devise a complex computer with some decision making abilities and program it with information with destination coordinates in case it gets lost.
Program it to recognize a local authority figure like a policeman or teacher and provide them with the destination information so that they can help it find home.
I suspect the most effective hardware platform for such an application is some sort of fairly high-functioning biological organism.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28178621</id>
	<title>Re:Buy her a cellphone</title>
	<author>Reservoir Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1243974060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's because your entire "country" fits in my backyard and you intenetz can be DDOSed  by a beowulf cluster of 386sx's. Take that NAZI LOVERS!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's because your entire " country " fits in my backyard and you intenetz can be DDOSed by a beowulf cluster of 386sx 's .
Take that NAZI LOVERS !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's because your entire "country" fits in my backyard and you intenetz can be DDOSed  by a beowulf cluster of 386sx's.
Take that NAZI LOVERS!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170837</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172595</id>
	<title>Relatively cheap solution</title>
	<author>shellster\_dude</author>
	<datestamp>1243846860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>First of all, I don't advocate tracking of people against their will, no matter what their age.  My solution is not only cheap, but exceeding difficult to use without the child being aware of it, so I don't mind sharing it:<br> <br>
option 1:<br>
<a href="http://www.instamapper.com/diy.html" title="instamapper.com">http://www.instamapper.com/diy.html</a> [instamapper.com] <br>
<br>
option 2:<br>
<a href="http://www.slashgear.com/open-gps-tracker-based-on-cheap-prepaid-phone-0340035/" title="slashgear.com">http://www.slashgear.com/open-gps-tracker-based-on-cheap-prepaid-phone-0340035/</a> [slashgear.com] (more work, but potentially cheaper)
<br>
<br>
Just stash it in their backpack.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , I do n't advocate tracking of people against their will , no matter what their age .
My solution is not only cheap , but exceeding difficult to use without the child being aware of it , so I do n't mind sharing it : option 1 : http : //www.instamapper.com/diy.html [ instamapper.com ] option 2 : http : //www.slashgear.com/open-gps-tracker-based-on-cheap-prepaid-phone-0340035/ [ slashgear.com ] ( more work , but potentially cheaper ) Just stash it in their backpack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, I don't advocate tracking of people against their will, no matter what their age.
My solution is not only cheap, but exceeding difficult to use without the child being aware of it, so I don't mind sharing it: 
option 1:
http://www.instamapper.com/diy.html [instamapper.com] 

option 2:
http://www.slashgear.com/open-gps-tracker-based-on-cheap-prepaid-phone-0340035/ [slashgear.com] (more work, but potentially cheaper)


Just stash it in their backpack.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172465</id>
	<title>Think of the Children!</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1243889640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously people, not one Michel Jackson joke yet? You guys are slipping.</p><p>I just thought of like 5 Michel Jackson jokes and I am not even trying. For shame slashdot, for shame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously people , not one Michel Jackson joke yet ?
You guys are slipping.I just thought of like 5 Michel Jackson jokes and I am not even trying .
For shame slashdot , for shame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously people, not one Michel Jackson joke yet?
You guys are slipping.I just thought of like 5 Michel Jackson jokes and I am not even trying.
For shame slashdot, for shame.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171029</id>
	<title>glad I'm in a small district</title>
	<author>james\_shoemaker</author>
	<datestamp>1243884540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  My daughter's bus driver knows all the kids on his bus and if someone is missing or extra the situation is resolved before the bus leaves the school.  Another good advantage is the teachers and administrators also know each child personally and if they see something going on they can yell names across the schoolyard instead of just saying "hey you".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My daughter 's bus driver knows all the kids on his bus and if someone is missing or extra the situation is resolved before the bus leaves the school .
Another good advantage is the teachers and administrators also know each child personally and if they see something going on they can yell names across the schoolyard instead of just saying " hey you " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  My daughter's bus driver knows all the kids on his bus and if someone is missing or extra the situation is resolved before the bus leaves the school.
Another good advantage is the teachers and administrators also know each child personally and if they see something going on they can yell names across the schoolyard instead of just saying "hey you".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173299</id>
	<title>Re:Title Ambiguity</title>
	<author>couchslug</author>
	<datestamp>1243849500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I believe this "Making a Child" Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters."</p><p>And many 4chan'ers, mores the pity!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I believe this " Making a Child " Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters .
" And many 4chan'ers , mores the pity !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I believe this "Making a Child" Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters.
"And many 4chan'ers, mores the pity!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171069</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172851</id>
	<title>BUG</title>
	<author>slashdevnull</author>
	<datestamp>1243847820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Check out the BUG open source hardware/software platform.  It would let you do something like this.
<br>
<a href="http://buglabs.net/" title="buglabs.net" rel="nofollow">http://buglabs.net/</a> [buglabs.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check out the BUG open source hardware/software platform .
It would let you do something like this .
http : //buglabs.net/ [ buglabs.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check out the BUG open source hardware/software platform.
It would let you do something like this.
http://buglabs.net/ [buglabs.net]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171605</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>iamhassi</author>
	<datestamp>1243886700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system and admits to doing that regularly. Raise a stink at school board meetings, PTA meetings, and so forth. Get other parents involved. You're talking about a school district's incompetence endangering not only your own child but all the children in the district."</i>
<br> <br>
Oh great idea!  That'll make his daughter very popular with the school.  I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong by embarrassing the school district in the local newspapers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system and admits to doing that regularly .
Raise a stink at school board meetings , PTA meetings , and so forth .
Get other parents involved .
You 're talking about a school district 's incompetence endangering not only your own child but all the children in the district .
" Oh great idea !
That 'll make his daughter very popular with the school .
I 'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong by embarrassing the school district in the local newspapers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"a far better solution would be a call to your local news organizations about how the school district is getting kids lost on their bus system and admits to doing that regularly.
Raise a stink at school board meetings, PTA meetings, and so forth.
Get other parents involved.
You're talking about a school district's incompetence endangering not only your own child but all the children in the district.
"
 
Oh great idea!
That'll make his daughter very popular with the school.
I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong by embarrassing the school district in the local newspapers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170887</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172647</id>
	<title>Wristwatch solutions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243846980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While a cell-phone solution might work for a teen, I don't think that's going to get held on to by a kindergarten aged kid.</p><p>There are a number of wristwatch solutions out there.  One that I saw (but couldn't locate quickly) made it so that you could not remove the watch w/o the right pin - the idea being that if the child was kidnapped you would not want the watch removed easily.</p><p>Here is one solution that I found: <a href="http://www.lok8u.com/" title="lok8u.com">lok8u.com</a> [lok8u.com]</p><p>Ah, here is another, which requires a remote device to unlock the wristwatch: <a href="http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html" title="brickhousesecurity.com">www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html</a> [brickhousesecurity.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While a cell-phone solution might work for a teen , I do n't think that 's going to get held on to by a kindergarten aged kid.There are a number of wristwatch solutions out there .
One that I saw ( but could n't locate quickly ) made it so that you could not remove the watch w/o the right pin - the idea being that if the child was kidnapped you would not want the watch removed easily.Here is one solution that I found : lok8u.com [ lok8u.com ] Ah , here is another , which requires a remote device to unlock the wristwatch : www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html [ brickhousesecurity.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While a cell-phone solution might work for a teen, I don't think that's going to get held on to by a kindergarten aged kid.There are a number of wristwatch solutions out there.
One that I saw (but couldn't locate quickly) made it so that you could not remove the watch w/o the right pin - the idea being that if the child was kidnapped you would not want the watch removed easily.Here is one solution that I found: lok8u.com [lok8u.com]Ah, here is another, which requires a remote device to unlock the wristwatch: www.brickhousesecurity.com/wf200.html [brickhousesecurity.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171087</id>
	<title>How about a cell phone?</title>
	<author>lionheart1327</author>
	<datestamp>1243884720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can't you just give her a cell phone and call her if she gets lost?
I'm sure she'll be able to tell you what cross streets shes on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't you just give her a cell phone and call her if she gets lost ?
I 'm sure she 'll be able to tell you what cross streets shes on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't you just give her a cell phone and call her if she gets lost?
I'm sure she'll be able to tell you what cross streets shes on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28183021</id>
	<title>Too Late</title>
	<author>kcdoodle</author>
	<datestamp>1243960140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Applied Digital Solutions has had something like this for years.

<br> <br>I think it is in the "vapor ware" stage and always will be, the
company seems to be going nowhere.

<br> <br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied\_Digital\_Solutions

<br> <br>When I first saw this about a decade ago, I thought, "That is
diabolical, I want in."  So I bought some stock watched it tank and sold it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Applied Digital Solutions has had something like this for years .
I think it is in the " vapor ware " stage and always will be , the company seems to be going nowhere .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied \ _Digital \ _Solutions When I first saw this about a decade ago , I thought , " That is diabolical , I want in .
" So I bought some stock watched it tank and sold it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Applied Digital Solutions has had something like this for years.
I think it is in the "vapor ware" stage and always will be, the
company seems to be going nowhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied\_Digital\_Solutions

 When I first saw this about a decade ago, I thought, "That is
diabolical, I want in.
"  So I bought some stock watched it tank and sold it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172021</id>
	<title>It's all out there</title>
	<author>CaptainTux</author>
	<datestamp>1243887900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're right, all of the technology you need for such a system is already on the market. It's just about tying in together in a way that works for you and your situation. The hardest part of this system will be the device your daughter wears. It's got to be small, unobtrusive, and not something that she has a compelling reason to leave behind. If she has a mobile phone, I'd look at using that. If not, you might want to look at some sort of weatherized GPS device sewn into the lining of her backpack. There are also devices that you can buy that disguise themselves as bracelets, necklaces, and the like.
<p>
For the purposes of this discussion, I'm going to assume you're going to use a mobile phone. It's cheap ($40), easy, and the entire system can take you less than a few hours to setup. Taking this route, here's what you'll need:
</p><p>
1. A cheap GPS enabled mobile phone. I recommend the $40 Boost Mobile phone. Unlimited data for about $20 a month IIRC and you don't need a voice plan unless you want one. This will be the tracking device.
</p><p>
2. GPSTracker software from www.instamapper.com. This software is free and allows you to track phones in realtime from the web. It also offers an API that you could develop a web app against to extend tracking abilities if you needed.
</p><p>
3. Another mobile phone (Blackberry, iPhones, Windows Mobile, doesn't matter) that you can use as a mobile locator device.
</p><p>
Once you've got all the pieces in place, install the GPSTracker on your daughters mobile phone. This will now allow you to track her in real time from the web or any web/JavaScript enabled mobile phone. Because you might have a bit of trouble with the real time web updating on the the device you're using to track her, you might want to write an actual piece of software for your mobile that does real time updating a bit better than the web app.
</p><p>
That done, you're set to go and you can find your daughter wherever she is on earth from wherever you are.
</p><p>
Now, to address your 'big brother' question: forget it. The government RUNS the GPS system. They have complete access to it if they need it. There is no way make sure they can't track too. It's either an acceptable risk and you do it or it's not.
</p><p>
Overall, this is a cool project. Good luck with it and good job in wanting to keep your daughter safe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right , all of the technology you need for such a system is already on the market .
It 's just about tying in together in a way that works for you and your situation .
The hardest part of this system will be the device your daughter wears .
It 's got to be small , unobtrusive , and not something that she has a compelling reason to leave behind .
If she has a mobile phone , I 'd look at using that .
If not , you might want to look at some sort of weatherized GPS device sewn into the lining of her backpack .
There are also devices that you can buy that disguise themselves as bracelets , necklaces , and the like .
For the purposes of this discussion , I 'm going to assume you 're going to use a mobile phone .
It 's cheap ( $ 40 ) , easy , and the entire system can take you less than a few hours to setup .
Taking this route , here 's what you 'll need : 1 .
A cheap GPS enabled mobile phone .
I recommend the $ 40 Boost Mobile phone .
Unlimited data for about $ 20 a month IIRC and you do n't need a voice plan unless you want one .
This will be the tracking device .
2. GPSTracker software from www.instamapper.com .
This software is free and allows you to track phones in realtime from the web .
It also offers an API that you could develop a web app against to extend tracking abilities if you needed .
3. Another mobile phone ( Blackberry , iPhones , Windows Mobile , does n't matter ) that you can use as a mobile locator device .
Once you 've got all the pieces in place , install the GPSTracker on your daughters mobile phone .
This will now allow you to track her in real time from the web or any web/JavaScript enabled mobile phone .
Because you might have a bit of trouble with the real time web updating on the the device you 're using to track her , you might want to write an actual piece of software for your mobile that does real time updating a bit better than the web app .
That done , you 're set to go and you can find your daughter wherever she is on earth from wherever you are .
Now , to address your 'big brother ' question : forget it .
The government RUNS the GPS system .
They have complete access to it if they need it .
There is no way make sure they ca n't track too .
It 's either an acceptable risk and you do it or it 's not .
Overall , this is a cool project .
Good luck with it and good job in wanting to keep your daughter safe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right, all of the technology you need for such a system is already on the market.
It's just about tying in together in a way that works for you and your situation.
The hardest part of this system will be the device your daughter wears.
It's got to be small, unobtrusive, and not something that she has a compelling reason to leave behind.
If she has a mobile phone, I'd look at using that.
If not, you might want to look at some sort of weatherized GPS device sewn into the lining of her backpack.
There are also devices that you can buy that disguise themselves as bracelets, necklaces, and the like.
For the purposes of this discussion, I'm going to assume you're going to use a mobile phone.
It's cheap ($40), easy, and the entire system can take you less than a few hours to setup.
Taking this route, here's what you'll need:

1.
A cheap GPS enabled mobile phone.
I recommend the $40 Boost Mobile phone.
Unlimited data for about $20 a month IIRC and you don't need a voice plan unless you want one.
This will be the tracking device.
2. GPSTracker software from www.instamapper.com.
This software is free and allows you to track phones in realtime from the web.
It also offers an API that you could develop a web app against to extend tracking abilities if you needed.
3. Another mobile phone (Blackberry, iPhones, Windows Mobile, doesn't matter) that you can use as a mobile locator device.
Once you've got all the pieces in place, install the GPSTracker on your daughters mobile phone.
This will now allow you to track her in real time from the web or any web/JavaScript enabled mobile phone.
Because you might have a bit of trouble with the real time web updating on the the device you're using to track her, you might want to write an actual piece of software for your mobile that does real time updating a bit better than the web app.
That done, you're set to go and you can find your daughter wherever she is on earth from wherever you are.
Now, to address your 'big brother' question: forget it.
The government RUNS the GPS system.
They have complete access to it if they need it.
There is no way make sure they can't track too.
It's either an acceptable risk and you do it or it's not.
Overall, this is a cool project.
Good luck with it and good job in wanting to keep your daughter safe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171417</id>
	<title>If you actually want to do this...</title>
	<author>Mike1024</author>
	<datestamp>1243885920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm going to leave aside the wisdom of doing this, and focus on the practical aspects.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Has anyone built anything like this?</p></div><p>An Android phone hooked up to <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/latitude/intro.html" title="google.co.uk">Google Latitude</a> [google.co.uk] would meet most of your requirements - small, accessible anywhere you've got an internet connection, accessible on mobile phones, phone can be turned off, phone is linux based.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Is there an open source solution?</p></div><p>There's <a href="http://www.opengts.org/" title="opengts.org">OpenGTS, an Open GPS Tracking System</a> [opengts.org]. However, it's not obvious from their website what trackers it works with.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>How would I go about building my own?</p></div><p> <a href="http://www.opengpstracker.org/" title="opengpstracker.org">People have home-made basic versions</a> [opengpstracker.org]. <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/categories.php?c=4" title="sparkfun.com">GPS modules</a> [sparkfun.com] can be purchased which give a reasonably accurate location once per second, or on demand, over a serial, usb, or bluetooth link; many mobile phones have gps modules already built in. Most tracking systems communicate over the cell phone system, either by SMS or mobile data connections. Of course, many mobile data connections are firewalled/NATed, so the benefit of SMS is you can transmit a query to the tracker. The disadvantage is the per-message cost, especially if you want regular location updates, and that it's easier to program the PC end of a mobile data connection. Cell companies also offer "machine to machine" data plans, but it's unlikely they'll want to deal with you if you're making a one-off homebrew system.</p><p>You could get a separate cell phone and GPS and make a homebrew device, like the one linked above, but you're unlikely to get things much more compact than buying a mobile phone with both built in.</p><p>If you're a programmer, my suggestion would be a mobile phone running Android, and using the <a href="http://www.developer.com/java/j2me/article.php/3753576" title="developer.com">GPS APIs</a> [developer.com] to read the location and send it off to your server.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>How does a tinfoil hat wearer engineer such a device to make sure Big-Brother isn't watching too?</p></div><p>Pretty much every mobile tracking system uses the cell phone network for connectivity, because it's more widely available than WiFi, and more affordable than a satellite connection. If you're paranoid about privacy, you should be worried about cell phone triangulation, as that would be the most practical way for "big brother" to track people; so to be paranoid, you can't use a cell phone connection, which will make your design task substantially more difficult. It would be far easier to get a mobile phone, set it up with Google Latitude, turn it off, and tell your daughter to turn it on if she gets lost.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to leave aside the wisdom of doing this , and focus on the practical aspects.Has anyone built anything like this ? An Android phone hooked up to Google Latitude [ google.co.uk ] would meet most of your requirements - small , accessible anywhere you 've got an internet connection , accessible on mobile phones , phone can be turned off , phone is linux based.Is there an open source solution ? There 's OpenGTS , an Open GPS Tracking System [ opengts.org ] .
However , it 's not obvious from their website what trackers it works with.How would I go about building my own ?
People have home-made basic versions [ opengpstracker.org ] .
GPS modules [ sparkfun.com ] can be purchased which give a reasonably accurate location once per second , or on demand , over a serial , usb , or bluetooth link ; many mobile phones have gps modules already built in .
Most tracking systems communicate over the cell phone system , either by SMS or mobile data connections .
Of course , many mobile data connections are firewalled/NATed , so the benefit of SMS is you can transmit a query to the tracker .
The disadvantage is the per-message cost , especially if you want regular location updates , and that it 's easier to program the PC end of a mobile data connection .
Cell companies also offer " machine to machine " data plans , but it 's unlikely they 'll want to deal with you if you 're making a one-off homebrew system.You could get a separate cell phone and GPS and make a homebrew device , like the one linked above , but you 're unlikely to get things much more compact than buying a mobile phone with both built in.If you 're a programmer , my suggestion would be a mobile phone running Android , and using the GPS APIs [ developer.com ] to read the location and send it off to your server.How does a tinfoil hat wearer engineer such a device to make sure Big-Brother is n't watching too ? Pretty much every mobile tracking system uses the cell phone network for connectivity , because it 's more widely available than WiFi , and more affordable than a satellite connection .
If you 're paranoid about privacy , you should be worried about cell phone triangulation , as that would be the most practical way for " big brother " to track people ; so to be paranoid , you ca n't use a cell phone connection , which will make your design task substantially more difficult .
It would be far easier to get a mobile phone , set it up with Google Latitude , turn it off , and tell your daughter to turn it on if she gets lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to leave aside the wisdom of doing this, and focus on the practical aspects.Has anyone built anything like this?An Android phone hooked up to Google Latitude [google.co.uk] would meet most of your requirements - small, accessible anywhere you've got an internet connection, accessible on mobile phones, phone can be turned off, phone is linux based.Is there an open source solution?There's OpenGTS, an Open GPS Tracking System [opengts.org].
However, it's not obvious from their website what trackers it works with.How would I go about building my own?
People have home-made basic versions [opengpstracker.org].
GPS modules [sparkfun.com] can be purchased which give a reasonably accurate location once per second, or on demand, over a serial, usb, or bluetooth link; many mobile phones have gps modules already built in.
Most tracking systems communicate over the cell phone system, either by SMS or mobile data connections.
Of course, many mobile data connections are firewalled/NATed, so the benefit of SMS is you can transmit a query to the tracker.
The disadvantage is the per-message cost, especially if you want regular location updates, and that it's easier to program the PC end of a mobile data connection.
Cell companies also offer "machine to machine" data plans, but it's unlikely they'll want to deal with you if you're making a one-off homebrew system.You could get a separate cell phone and GPS and make a homebrew device, like the one linked above, but you're unlikely to get things much more compact than buying a mobile phone with both built in.If you're a programmer, my suggestion would be a mobile phone running Android, and using the GPS APIs [developer.com] to read the location and send it off to your server.How does a tinfoil hat wearer engineer such a device to make sure Big-Brother isn't watching too?Pretty much every mobile tracking system uses the cell phone network for connectivity, because it's more widely available than WiFi, and more affordable than a satellite connection.
If you're paranoid about privacy, you should be worried about cell phone triangulation, as that would be the most practical way for "big brother" to track people; so to be paranoid, you can't use a cell phone connection, which will make your design task substantially more difficult.
It would be far easier to get a mobile phone, set it up with Google Latitude, turn it off, and tell your daughter to turn it on if she gets lost.
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172409</id>
	<title>Re:Title Ambiguity</title>
	<author>Mishotaki</author>
	<datestamp>1243889340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I believe this "Making a Child" Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters.</p></div><p>Yeah a device locating child-making in progress was always one of the things i dreamed of!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe this " Making a Child " Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters.Yeah a device locating child-making in progress was always one of the things i dreamed of !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe this "Making a Child" Locating System will be of interest to many Slashdotters.Yeah a device locating child-making in progress was always one of the things i dreamed of!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171069</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</id>
	<title>Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>roc97007</author>
	<datestamp>1243886820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
My daughter started carrying a cell phone in 6th grade for precisely this reason.  It's paid off three times:  Twice she got on the wrong school bus, and once we lost her in the press of the crowd during a parade.  (That was really scary.)
</p><p>
Before GPS became common, I had to rely on her description of where she was.  Once (the parade incident) she had to go into a store and ask the attendant for the address.  (I discourage her from asking strangers on the street, and she's afraid of the police, due to an incident a few years earlier, so we compromised on convenience store attendants.  It wasn't a perfect solution.)
</p><p>
Now, none of that is necessary.  She carries a Blackberry Curve and I can check her location via Google Latitude on my own Blackberry.  She knows that this is not because I don't trust her, but because I don't trust everyone else.  Besides, she can also see my location, which forestalls "Daddy, when are you going to get here?"
</p><p>
There are other tracking services, but Latitude was good enough for our purpose, and free.
</p><p>
Hope this helps.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My daughter started carrying a cell phone in 6th grade for precisely this reason .
It 's paid off three times : Twice she got on the wrong school bus , and once we lost her in the press of the crowd during a parade .
( That was really scary .
) Before GPS became common , I had to rely on her description of where she was .
Once ( the parade incident ) she had to go into a store and ask the attendant for the address .
( I discourage her from asking strangers on the street , and she 's afraid of the police , due to an incident a few years earlier , so we compromised on convenience store attendants .
It was n't a perfect solution .
) Now , none of that is necessary .
She carries a Blackberry Curve and I can check her location via Google Latitude on my own Blackberry .
She knows that this is not because I do n't trust her , but because I do n't trust everyone else .
Besides , she can also see my location , which forestalls " Daddy , when are you going to get here ?
" There are other tracking services , but Latitude was good enough for our purpose , and free .
Hope this helps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
My daughter started carrying a cell phone in 6th grade for precisely this reason.
It's paid off three times:  Twice she got on the wrong school bus, and once we lost her in the press of the crowd during a parade.
(That was really scary.
)

Before GPS became common, I had to rely on her description of where she was.
Once (the parade incident) she had to go into a store and ask the attendant for the address.
(I discourage her from asking strangers on the street, and she's afraid of the police, due to an incident a few years earlier, so we compromised on convenience store attendants.
It wasn't a perfect solution.
)

Now, none of that is necessary.
She carries a Blackberry Curve and I can check her location via Google Latitude on my own Blackberry.
She knows that this is not because I don't trust her, but because I don't trust everyone else.
Besides, she can also see my location, which forestalls "Daddy, when are you going to get here?
"

There are other tracking services, but Latitude was good enough for our purpose, and free.
Hope this helps.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28183279</id>
	<title>Smobile Systems Parental Controls</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243960980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please take a look at this link www.smparentalcontrols.com and see if this product fits your needs. SMobile Systems Parental Control Edition has GPS locate functionality built in to the software application for smart phones.  This application allows parents to monitor the daily activities of their child's mobile device.  Additional features include call monitoring, e-mail and text message monitoring, remote lock, wipe and restore, etc... If you would like to discuss further please contact SMobile Systems at 1-866-323-0480</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please take a look at this link www.smparentalcontrols.com and see if this product fits your needs .
SMobile Systems Parental Control Edition has GPS locate functionality built in to the software application for smart phones .
This application allows parents to monitor the daily activities of their child 's mobile device .
Additional features include call monitoring , e-mail and text message monitoring , remote lock , wipe and restore , etc... If you would like to discuss further please contact SMobile Systems at 1-866-323-0480</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please take a look at this link www.smparentalcontrols.com and see if this product fits your needs.
SMobile Systems Parental Control Edition has GPS locate functionality built in to the software application for smart phones.
This application allows parents to monitor the daily activities of their child's mobile device.
Additional features include call monitoring, e-mail and text message monitoring, remote lock, wipe and restore, etc... If you would like to discuss further please contact SMobile Systems at 1-866-323-0480</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172793</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1243847640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I discourage her from asking strangers on the street</p></div><p>Unrealistic threat assessment.  The odds of a random person she approaches being evil are almost infinitely lower than the odds of someone whom approaches her being evil.  Or, given the ratio of male to female predators, just tell her to ask a female, any female.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>she's afraid of the police</p></div><p>Sadly, a realistic threat assessment for people of any age, not just kids.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>compromised on convenience store attendants. It wasn't a perfect solution</p></div><p>Why?  I think that's perfect.  The odds of a random store clerk being evil are very low.  In any transaction of evil, everyone knows she's on the surveillance camera, so thats kind of a downer for that plan.  Most service clerks would love to help, hoping you'll say or write something nice to the boss or the newspapers.  Its easy for you to find the store, gas stations are not exactly hidden from the street, and you've probably been there before so you know exactly where it is.  Short of a donut store or a police station, I can't think of a more likely place to find a cop, hopefully a good one.  Tell the kid, walk in the store, stand in front of the camera, and don't leave until you arrive.  Away from the unfamiliar street means low odds of car accident.  Most convenience stores are basically the same around the world, so no matter how lost she is, she'll be in semi-familiar surroundings, reducing panic and the bad decisions resulting in panic.  Very hard to do better....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I discourage her from asking strangers on the streetUnrealistic threat assessment .
The odds of a random person she approaches being evil are almost infinitely lower than the odds of someone whom approaches her being evil .
Or , given the ratio of male to female predators , just tell her to ask a female , any female.she 's afraid of the policeSadly , a realistic threat assessment for people of any age , not just kids.compromised on convenience store attendants .
It was n't a perfect solutionWhy ?
I think that 's perfect .
The odds of a random store clerk being evil are very low .
In any transaction of evil , everyone knows she 's on the surveillance camera , so thats kind of a downer for that plan .
Most service clerks would love to help , hoping you 'll say or write something nice to the boss or the newspapers .
Its easy for you to find the store , gas stations are not exactly hidden from the street , and you 've probably been there before so you know exactly where it is .
Short of a donut store or a police station , I ca n't think of a more likely place to find a cop , hopefully a good one .
Tell the kid , walk in the store , stand in front of the camera , and do n't leave until you arrive .
Away from the unfamiliar street means low odds of car accident .
Most convenience stores are basically the same around the world , so no matter how lost she is , she 'll be in semi-familiar surroundings , reducing panic and the bad decisions resulting in panic .
Very hard to do better... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I discourage her from asking strangers on the streetUnrealistic threat assessment.
The odds of a random person she approaches being evil are almost infinitely lower than the odds of someone whom approaches her being evil.
Or, given the ratio of male to female predators, just tell her to ask a female, any female.she's afraid of the policeSadly, a realistic threat assessment for people of any age, not just kids.compromised on convenience store attendants.
It wasn't a perfect solutionWhy?
I think that's perfect.
The odds of a random store clerk being evil are very low.
In any transaction of evil, everyone knows she's on the surveillance camera, so thats kind of a downer for that plan.
Most service clerks would love to help, hoping you'll say or write something nice to the boss or the newspapers.
Its easy for you to find the store, gas stations are not exactly hidden from the street, and you've probably been there before so you know exactly where it is.
Short of a donut store or a police station, I can't think of a more likely place to find a cop, hopefully a good one.
Tell the kid, walk in the store, stand in front of the camera, and don't leave until you arrive.
Away from the unfamiliar street means low odds of car accident.
Most convenience stores are basically the same around the world, so no matter how lost she is, she'll be in semi-familiar surroundings, reducing panic and the bad decisions resulting in panic.
Very hard to do better....
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171505</id>
	<title>Doesn't anyone talk to their kids anymore?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's an idea - TRY TALKING TO HER.   Oh, nevermind, that won't work by linux.  How about sending her a text message?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an idea - TRY TALKING TO HER .
Oh , nevermind , that wo n't work by linux .
How about sending her a text message ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an idea - TRY TALKING TO HER.
Oh, nevermind, that won't work by linux.
How about sending her a text message?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172545</id>
	<title>Re:For my dog</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1243889880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I kid you not, real life saver for the dog, reflective tape vest.</p><p>Like so:</p><p>relective tape on the collar<br>reflective tape on the vest that says the word DOG<br>reflective tape around the ankles</p><p>That way someone at a distance can see the word DOG and the flicker from the feet. Sadly I've seen some monsters actually floor it when they see that (I sat it along a road near my house as a test and the guy in front of me gunned it when he saw that. sicko...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I kid you not , real life saver for the dog , reflective tape vest.Like so : relective tape on the collarreflective tape on the vest that says the word DOGreflective tape around the anklesThat way someone at a distance can see the word DOG and the flicker from the feet .
Sadly I 've seen some monsters actually floor it when they see that ( I sat it along a road near my house as a test and the guy in front of me gunned it when he saw that .
sicko... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I kid you not, real life saver for the dog, reflective tape vest.Like so:relective tape on the collarreflective tape on the vest that says the word DOGreflective tape around the anklesThat way someone at a distance can see the word DOG and the flicker from the feet.
Sadly I've seen some monsters actually floor it when they see that (I sat it along a road near my house as a test and the guy in front of me gunned it when he saw that.
sicko...)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171451</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173379</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>aaandre</author>
	<datestamp>1243849740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Makes sense to have a trust-based, full-disclosure solution between a parent and child where the child participates in the agreement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Makes sense to have a trust-based , full-disclosure solution between a parent and child where the child participates in the agreement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Makes sense to have a trust-based, full-disclosure solution between a parent and child where the child participates in the agreement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173489</id>
	<title>Re:Neural network...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243850040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ftw - thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ftw - thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ftw - thank you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173073</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1243848660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I dunno, this "going outside" and "school" stuff is really scary. With modern technology, we can just put children in a fully-immersive Virtual Reality pod, where they belong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno , this " going outside " and " school " stuff is really scary .
With modern technology , we can just put children in a fully-immersive Virtual Reality pod , where they belong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno, this "going outside" and "school" stuff is really scary.
With modern technology, we can just put children in a fully-immersive Virtual Reality pod, where they belong.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171909</id>
	<title>easy.</title>
	<author>ralfg33k</author>
	<datestamp>1243887540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just nick the Marauder's Map from Filch's office.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just nick the Marauder 's Map from Filch 's office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just nick the Marauder's Map from Filch's office.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28180107</id>
	<title>This already exists</title>
	<author>basiel</author>
	<datestamp>1243946880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi dude,

This program already exists and is commercially available on <a href="http://www.ubiest.com/page\_id\_/lev\_/lang\_id\_2/ctg\_cat\_id\_--/index.htm" title="ubiest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ubiest.com/page\_id\_/lev\_/lang\_id\_2/ctg\_cat\_id\_--/index.htm</a> [ubiest.com] it is an italian company who demoed such a sollution on one of the LBS fora I went to.

Hopefully this helps.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi dude , This program already exists and is commercially available on http : //www.ubiest.com/page \ _id \ _/lev \ _/lang \ _id \ _2/ctg \ _cat \ _id \ _--/index.htm [ ubiest.com ] it is an italian company who demoed such a sollution on one of the LBS fora I went to .
Hopefully this helps .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi dude,

This program already exists and is commercially available on http://www.ubiest.com/page\_id\_/lev\_/lang\_id\_2/ctg\_cat\_id\_--/index.htm [ubiest.com] it is an italian company who demoed such a sollution on one of the LBS fora I went to.
Hopefully this helps.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28285993</id>
	<title>Re:GPS + SMS.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1244631000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a friend whose father made him find his own way home in the middle of Lima when he was barely a teen. (It took him about a day).<br>Since then he's been shot at, traveresed Peru's jungles, and started a high-income business.<br>He now lives in the suburbs of a city in Canada with his wife, two children, and owns a mini-van.<br>I hardly think that getting on the wrong bus can be that detrimental for a child.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a friend whose father made him find his own way home in the middle of Lima when he was barely a teen .
( It took him about a day ) .Since then he 's been shot at , traveresed Peru 's jungles , and started a high-income business.He now lives in the suburbs of a city in Canada with his wife , two children , and owns a mini-van.I hardly think that getting on the wrong bus can be that detrimental for a child .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a friend whose father made him find his own way home in the middle of Lima when he was barely a teen.
(It took him about a day).Since then he's been shot at, traveresed Peru's jungles, and started a high-income business.He now lives in the suburbs of a city in Canada with his wife, two children, and owns a mini-van.I hardly think that getting on the wrong bus can be that detrimental for a child.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170861</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171521</id>
	<title>Re:Great online service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <a href="http://www.themobiletracker.com/" title="themobiletracker.com" rel="nofollow">This one</a> [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.</p></div><p>Craigslist personals are great too - that's where I found my wife!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This one [ themobiletracker.com ] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife , anyway.Craigslist personals are great too - that 's where I found my wife !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> This one [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.Craigslist personals are great too - that's where I found my wife!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173989</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243851900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the trouble you are going through just take your daughter out of government run schools and put her into a private school.  Not only will she get a better education but she will be a valued cared for client rather than a forgotten nameless child.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the trouble you are going through just take your daughter out of government run schools and put her into a private school .
Not only will she get a better education but she will be a valued cared for client rather than a forgotten nameless child .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the trouble you are going through just take your daughter out of government run schools and put her into a private school.
Not only will she get a better education but she will be a valued cared for client rather than a forgotten nameless child.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28179593</id>
	<title>Re:Drive her</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243941780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why don't you walk or cycle her to and from school yourself?</p><p>That would provide additional time with your daughter as well.</p><p>You wouldn't have to trust the school to not lose her on the bus system</p><p>You don't need a subcutaneous lo-jack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't you walk or cycle her to and from school yourself ? That would provide additional time with your daughter as well.You would n't have to trust the school to not lose her on the bus systemYou do n't need a subcutaneous lo-jack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't you walk or cycle her to and from school yourself?That would provide additional time with your daughter as well.You wouldn't have to trust the school to not lose her on the bus systemYou don't need a subcutaneous lo-jack.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170855</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172511</id>
	<title>Re:You're solving the wrong problem</title>
	<author>mooingyak</author>
	<datestamp>1243889760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What about both?  Yes he should be after the school non-stop to take care of this, but what if that takes a month?  Three months?  Or more?  What should he do until then?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What about both ?
Yes he should be after the school non-stop to take care of this , but what if that takes a month ?
Three months ?
Or more ?
What should he do until then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about both?
Yes he should be after the school non-stop to take care of this, but what if that takes a month?
Three months?
Or more?
What should he do until then?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175971</id>
	<title>Another spin on the situation</title>
	<author>r\_jensen11</author>
	<datestamp>1243862040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not going to belabor the topic of paranoia, but I feel that there is a much more probable situation happening which I didn't see discussed:</p><p>What are the odds for the following:</p><p>Child loses GPS tracking system (most likely a phone):Child gets lost to the point that the police are called</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not going to belabor the topic of paranoia , but I feel that there is a much more probable situation happening which I did n't see discussed : What are the odds for the following : Child loses GPS tracking system ( most likely a phone ) : Child gets lost to the point that the police are called</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not going to belabor the topic of paranoia, but I feel that there is a much more probable situation happening which I didn't see discussed:What are the odds for the following:Child loses GPS tracking system (most likely a phone):Child gets lost to the point that the police are called</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171957</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Numbers. Our ancesters bred like rabbits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Numbers .
Our ancesters bred like rabbits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Numbers.
Our ancesters bred like rabbits.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170909</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170883</id>
	<title>Young parent? First kid off to school?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243884000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FP has it right. Calm down.</p><p>I pity the poor boy who brings her home 15 minutes late from a date 12+ years from now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FP has it right .
Calm down.I pity the poor boy who brings her home 15 minutes late from a date 12 + years from now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FP has it right.
Calm down.I pity the poor boy who brings her home 15 minutes late from a date 12+ years from now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171235</id>
	<title>Re:GPS enabled Cell phone</title>
	<author>martas</author>
	<datestamp>1243885200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>trade off between safety and security? since when do those two contradict each other?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>trade off between safety and security ?
since when do those two contradict each other ?
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>trade off between safety and security?
since when do those two contradict each other?
:P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171023</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171925</id>
	<title>With all those distros...</title>
	<author>mr\_lizard13</author>
	<datestamp>1243887600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...surely there's a Linux distro just for this sort of thing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>...surely there 's a Linux distro just for this sort of thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...surely there's a Linux distro just for this sort of thing?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171851</id>
	<title>One step closer to ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I need to just mention this to my wife and I am one step closer to Divorce, with a court order asking me to stay 10 miles away from both(wife and daughter) of them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I need to just mention this to my wife and I am one step closer to Divorce , with a court order asking me to stay 10 miles away from both ( wife and daughter ) of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I need to just mention this to my wife and I am one step closer to Divorce, with a court order asking me to stay 10 miles away from both(wife and daughter) of them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28180759</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>pbhj</author>
	<datestamp>1243951020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now. What a truly wonderful time to be alive, we now finally have the tools to live on past childhood.</p></div><p>Life expectancy has dramatically increased in the last few decades.</p><p><a href="http://www38.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=life+expectancy+U.S.#scannerresult\_0500\_1" title="wolframalpha.com">http://www38.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=life+expectancy+U.S.#scannerresult\_0500\_1</a> [wolframalpha.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really amazing how any of us , and humanity in general , ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety ' gear that is available now .
What a truly wonderful time to be alive , we now finally have the tools to live on past childhood.Life expectancy has dramatically increased in the last few decades.http : //www38.wolframalpha.com/input/ ? i = life + expectancy + U.S. # scannerresult \ _0500 \ _1 [ wolframalpha.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.
What a truly wonderful time to be alive, we now finally have the tools to live on past childhood.Life expectancy has dramatically increased in the last few decades.http://www38.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=life+expectancy+U.S.#scannerresult\_0500\_1 [wolframalpha.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172349</id>
	<title>MisterHouse</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243889160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MisterHouse already does this and it's written in perl.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MisterHouse already does this and it 's written in perl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MisterHouse already does this and it's written in perl.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172373</id>
	<title>Go Low-Tech</title>
	<author>lbmouse</author>
	<datestamp>1243889220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here is what my wife and I use:<br><a href="http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2751438" title="petsmart.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2751438</a> [petsmart.com]</p><p>When they get a little older we'll go high-tech:<br><a href="http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2753828" title="petsmart.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2753828</a> [petsmart.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here is what my wife and I use : http : //www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp ? productId = 2751438 [ petsmart.com ] When they get a little older we 'll go high-tech : http : //www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp ? productId = 2753828 [ petsmart.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here is what my wife and I use:http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2751438 [petsmart.com]When they get a little older we'll go high-tech:http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2753828 [petsmart.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172639</id>
	<title>busses and education</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1243846980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>When I was in middle school they gave all the kids a laminated bus pass</p></div><p>
When I was in middle school, we were hacking the busses ourselves in a way.  Neighborhoods would be served sometimes by multiple busses, such that walking 2 blocks further than your "scheduled" stop would put you on a bus that might be a shorter route, have fewer kids, or have that person who you just really want to sit by.  But middle school kids should, at the least, know their own neighborhoods well enough to know if they are on the right bus to go home or not.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>the bus numbers spray painted on the sidewalk so everyone who had to ride the bus knew exactly where to line up. Nobody ever got on the wrong bus because nobody ever got in the wrong line</p></div><p>
That works well for kids who know how to read.  However a lot of schools now don't really have "literate" children until 2nd grade.  This is something that changed appallingly fast, too.  When I went to grade school, I could read and write <i>before</i> I started kindergarten.  When my oldest younger siblings went to school, they couldn't read and write until they were at least in 2nd grade - and we went through the same school system.<br> <br>
Hence even if the numbers are sprayed on the sidewalk, those numbers won't do you any good if the kids can't read them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was in middle school they gave all the kids a laminated bus pass When I was in middle school , we were hacking the busses ourselves in a way .
Neighborhoods would be served sometimes by multiple busses , such that walking 2 blocks further than your " scheduled " stop would put you on a bus that might be a shorter route , have fewer kids , or have that person who you just really want to sit by .
But middle school kids should , at the least , know their own neighborhoods well enough to know if they are on the right bus to go home or not.the bus numbers spray painted on the sidewalk so everyone who had to ride the bus knew exactly where to line up .
Nobody ever got on the wrong bus because nobody ever got in the wrong line That works well for kids who know how to read .
However a lot of schools now do n't really have " literate " children until 2nd grade .
This is something that changed appallingly fast , too .
When I went to grade school , I could read and write before I started kindergarten .
When my oldest younger siblings went to school , they could n't read and write until they were at least in 2nd grade - and we went through the same school system .
Hence even if the numbers are sprayed on the sidewalk , those numbers wo n't do you any good if the kids ca n't read them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was in middle school they gave all the kids a laminated bus pass
When I was in middle school, we were hacking the busses ourselves in a way.
Neighborhoods would be served sometimes by multiple busses, such that walking 2 blocks further than your "scheduled" stop would put you on a bus that might be a shorter route, have fewer kids, or have that person who you just really want to sit by.
But middle school kids should, at the least, know their own neighborhoods well enough to know if they are on the right bus to go home or not.the bus numbers spray painted on the sidewalk so everyone who had to ride the bus knew exactly where to line up.
Nobody ever got on the wrong bus because nobody ever got in the wrong line
That works well for kids who know how to read.
However a lot of schools now don't really have "literate" children until 2nd grade.
This is something that changed appallingly fast, too.
When I went to grade school, I could read and write before I started kindergarten.
When my oldest younger siblings went to school, they couldn't read and write until they were at least in 2nd grade - and we went through the same school system.
Hence even if the numbers are sprayed on the sidewalk, those numbers won't do you any good if the kids can't read them.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171719</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243886940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The local school district disassociated the bus route # from the bus number decades ago (Because we have more kids than busses and the busses are less than reliable).  Due to issues actually having reliable drivers, sometimes two routes end up doubled up on the same bus with absolutely no predictability.</p><p>The kludgy solution that worked...  Put a spot in the window to hold a sign with the route number currently handled by the bus, and have the kid memorize that.  Unfortunately, it falls to pieces when it's kindergarten students that don't know their ABCs or numbers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The local school district disassociated the bus route # from the bus number decades ago ( Because we have more kids than busses and the busses are less than reliable ) .
Due to issues actually having reliable drivers , sometimes two routes end up doubled up on the same bus with absolutely no predictability.The kludgy solution that worked... Put a spot in the window to hold a sign with the route number currently handled by the bus , and have the kid memorize that .
Unfortunately , it falls to pieces when it 's kindergarten students that do n't know their ABCs or numbers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The local school district disassociated the bus route # from the bus number decades ago (Because we have more kids than busses and the busses are less than reliable).
Due to issues actually having reliable drivers, sometimes two routes end up doubled up on the same bus with absolutely no predictability.The kludgy solution that worked...  Put a spot in the window to hold a sign with the route number currently handled by the bus, and have the kid memorize that.
Unfortunately, it falls to pieces when it's kindergarten students that don't know their ABCs or numbers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171513</id>
	<title>Cellphone?</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1243886400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is she old enough to be responsible with a cellphone? Just do that. If you want to know where she is, you call her, and if something unexpected happens she can call you. Simple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is she old enough to be responsible with a cellphone ?
Just do that .
If you want to know where she is , you call her , and if something unexpected happens she can call you .
Simple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is she old enough to be responsible with a cellphone?
Just do that.
If you want to know where she is, you call her, and if something unexpected happens she can call you.
Simple.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172181</id>
	<title>Other Options...</title>
	<author>LabRat007</author>
	<datestamp>1243888380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Consider private education.

Seriously.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consider private education .
Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider private education.
Seriously.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170843</id>
	<title>here, lmgtfy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243883820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=child+gps</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //lmgtfy.com/ ? q = child + gps</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=child+gps</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171371</id>
	<title>iPhone</title>
	<author>Aliencow</author>
	<datestamp>1243885740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An option would be giving her an iPhone 3g with a data plan and install <a href="http://findmyi.org/" title="findmyi.org" rel="nofollow">http://findmyi.org/</a> [findmyi.org] .</p><p>But then, who's going to protect her from interweb-predators?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An option would be giving her an iPhone 3g with a data plan and install http : //findmyi.org/ [ findmyi.org ] .But then , who 's going to protect her from interweb-predators ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An option would be giving her an iPhone 3g with a data plan and install http://findmyi.org/ [findmyi.org] .But then, who's going to protect her from interweb-predators?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177247</id>
	<title>Helicopter Parent</title>
	<author>nausea\_malvarma</author>
	<datestamp>1243872840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do not deprive your kid of real-life experiences dealing with the unexpected. You can hover over your kid all you like with gps, but some day shes gotta go out on her own. When kids are on their own, unmonitored, they learn to be self sufficient, calm under stress, and resourceful. Just get your kid a phone so she can call you when she gets lost.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do not deprive your kid of real-life experiences dealing with the unexpected .
You can hover over your kid all you like with gps , but some day shes got ta go out on her own .
When kids are on their own , unmonitored , they learn to be self sufficient , calm under stress , and resourceful .
Just get your kid a phone so she can call you when she gets lost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do not deprive your kid of real-life experiences dealing with the unexpected.
You can hover over your kid all you like with gps, but some day shes gotta go out on her own.
When kids are on their own, unmonitored, they learn to be self sufficient, calm under stress, and resourceful.
Just get your kid a phone so she can call you when she gets lost.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172073</id>
	<title>Re:Some of us didn't</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.</i> </p><p>Some of us didn't. I did, and you did, but some people died who could have been saved by modern safety standards and today's technology.</p></div><p>Yes, they call it "natural selection."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's really amazing how any of us , and humanity in general , ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety ' gear that is available now .
Some of us did n't .
I did , and you did , but some people died who could have been saved by modern safety standards and today 's technology.Yes , they call it " natural selection .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It's really amazing how any of us, and humanity in general, ever lived past their 10th birthday without all the 'safety' gear that is available now.
Some of us didn't.
I did, and you did, but some people died who could have been saved by modern safety standards and today's technology.Yes, they call it "natural selection.
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171641</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172879</id>
	<title>Not to put too fine a point on it...</title>
	<author>rgviza</author>
	<datestamp>1243847880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... but if your kid is really in danger from a dangerous person, the perp will probably search them for such a device and throw it in a trash can. If she isn't in danger, then what's the point? Slightly faster to find her? That's a pretty small advantage to gain for the price you'll pay for going Big Brother on her.</p><p>In this case she simply got on the wrong bus. Attaching a tracking device to a child will just lead to a broken or lost tracking device and when you really need it it probably won't be working, the battery will be dead, etc.</p><p>I think the real problem is trusting a young child to know which bus to get on and where to get off, then again, I am not in your shoes. There's no way in hell I'd let a kid younger than 10 ride a school bus, but that's just me. I drop mine off and pick them up after work. When he hits 10 he'll get a "how to ride the school bus" class along with all the warnings, cautions, and test runs that I deem necessary to feel confident he knows which bus to get on, where his stop is and how to deal with strangers with candy.</p><p>I look at it the same way I do leaving them home. In my state it's legal to allow your kid to be by themselves in your house after age 8. Other people do it. He knows how to dial 911. He knows my cell number. He knows what to do in the event of fire (grab phone, run outside, dial 911, then call me). He knows not to drink the stuff under the sink. Am I going to go to the gym for an hour and leave him there alone? HELL NO!!! I live in the city. About all I do is unload the car, and let him fire up the xbox while I park. If it's longer than 5 minutes, he's coming with me. I trust him completely, I just don't trust the rest of the world.</p><p>At the end of the day you have to make a decision about convenience vs. safety and do whatever you feel is right. Attaching a device to your child isn't going to solve your safety issues or guarantee anything. Being in control of your child's transportation arrangements will solve this particular risk.</p><p>-Viz</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... but if your kid is really in danger from a dangerous person , the perp will probably search them for such a device and throw it in a trash can .
If she is n't in danger , then what 's the point ?
Slightly faster to find her ?
That 's a pretty small advantage to gain for the price you 'll pay for going Big Brother on her.In this case she simply got on the wrong bus .
Attaching a tracking device to a child will just lead to a broken or lost tracking device and when you really need it it probably wo n't be working , the battery will be dead , etc.I think the real problem is trusting a young child to know which bus to get on and where to get off , then again , I am not in your shoes .
There 's no way in hell I 'd let a kid younger than 10 ride a school bus , but that 's just me .
I drop mine off and pick them up after work .
When he hits 10 he 'll get a " how to ride the school bus " class along with all the warnings , cautions , and test runs that I deem necessary to feel confident he knows which bus to get on , where his stop is and how to deal with strangers with candy.I look at it the same way I do leaving them home .
In my state it 's legal to allow your kid to be by themselves in your house after age 8 .
Other people do it .
He knows how to dial 911 .
He knows my cell number .
He knows what to do in the event of fire ( grab phone , run outside , dial 911 , then call me ) .
He knows not to drink the stuff under the sink .
Am I going to go to the gym for an hour and leave him there alone ?
HELL NO ! ! !
I live in the city .
About all I do is unload the car , and let him fire up the xbox while I park .
If it 's longer than 5 minutes , he 's coming with me .
I trust him completely , I just do n't trust the rest of the world.At the end of the day you have to make a decision about convenience vs. safety and do whatever you feel is right .
Attaching a device to your child is n't going to solve your safety issues or guarantee anything .
Being in control of your child 's transportation arrangements will solve this particular risk.-Viz</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... but if your kid is really in danger from a dangerous person, the perp will probably search them for such a device and throw it in a trash can.
If she isn't in danger, then what's the point?
Slightly faster to find her?
That's a pretty small advantage to gain for the price you'll pay for going Big Brother on her.In this case she simply got on the wrong bus.
Attaching a tracking device to a child will just lead to a broken or lost tracking device and when you really need it it probably won't be working, the battery will be dead, etc.I think the real problem is trusting a young child to know which bus to get on and where to get off, then again, I am not in your shoes.
There's no way in hell I'd let a kid younger than 10 ride a school bus, but that's just me.
I drop mine off and pick them up after work.
When he hits 10 he'll get a "how to ride the school bus" class along with all the warnings, cautions, and test runs that I deem necessary to feel confident he knows which bus to get on, where his stop is and how to deal with strangers with candy.I look at it the same way I do leaving them home.
In my state it's legal to allow your kid to be by themselves in your house after age 8.
Other people do it.
He knows how to dial 911.
He knows my cell number.
He knows what to do in the event of fire (grab phone, run outside, dial 911, then call me).
He knows not to drink the stuff under the sink.
Am I going to go to the gym for an hour and leave him there alone?
HELL NO!!!
I live in the city.
About all I do is unload the car, and let him fire up the xbox while I park.
If it's longer than 5 minutes, he's coming with me.
I trust him completely, I just don't trust the rest of the world.At the end of the day you have to make a decision about convenience vs. safety and do whatever you feel is right.
Attaching a device to your child isn't going to solve your safety issues or guarantee anything.
Being in control of your child's transportation arrangements will solve this particular risk.-Viz</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172365</id>
	<title>Having this done in Linux? What?</title>
	<author>jr76</author>
	<datestamp>1243889160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, this is a highly profitable sector, something where not having the nuts and bolts open to the world is in your self-interest and something that requires a substantially mature and solid niche technology, of which Linux is the worst thing in the world for.  The best developers will be making money off of this, having it not on Linux;  People like you should be wanting this to be kept as a more 'private' technology; and while Linux can be rock-solid in highly mainstream products, is not remotely close to it in niche technologies due to the nature of open-source, which requires a huge base with recurring interest, so that enough people have enough free time to burn to make it be stable and secure.<br> <br>

Keep on dreaming...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , this is a highly profitable sector , something where not having the nuts and bolts open to the world is in your self-interest and something that requires a substantially mature and solid niche technology , of which Linux is the worst thing in the world for .
The best developers will be making money off of this , having it not on Linux ; People like you should be wanting this to be kept as a more 'private ' technology ; and while Linux can be rock-solid in highly mainstream products , is not remotely close to it in niche technologies due to the nature of open-source , which requires a huge base with recurring interest , so that enough people have enough free time to burn to make it be stable and secure .
Keep on dreaming.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, this is a highly profitable sector, something where not having the nuts and bolts open to the world is in your self-interest and something that requires a substantially mature and solid niche technology, of which Linux is the worst thing in the world for.
The best developers will be making money off of this, having it not on Linux;  People like you should be wanting this to be kept as a more 'private' technology; and while Linux can be rock-solid in highly mainstream products, is not remotely close to it in niche technologies due to the nature of open-source, which requires a huge base with recurring interest, so that enough people have enough free time to burn to make it be stable and secure.
Keep on dreaming...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28175431</id>
	<title>Out come the clueless</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243858500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So when you don't like the question you decide to not answer it and instead you state that the question shouldn't be asked?  Morons.  So, just so you understand: your personal views on the validity of the question itself is not an answer to the question.  You might think that those 'answers' are of interest, but they aren't.  You are a moron for spouting your religious views on the topic.  Yes I'm talking to you.  Really.  Yes you.  Not the other guy that did the exact thing you did, I'm talking to you.  Moron.  Religious freak.</p><p>As for a direct answer to the original question, you should check out cell phones that have this feature built in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So when you do n't like the question you decide to not answer it and instead you state that the question should n't be asked ?
Morons. So , just so you understand : your personal views on the validity of the question itself is not an answer to the question .
You might think that those 'answers ' are of interest , but they are n't .
You are a moron for spouting your religious views on the topic .
Yes I 'm talking to you .
Really. Yes you .
Not the other guy that did the exact thing you did , I 'm talking to you .
Moron. Religious freak.As for a direct answer to the original question , you should check out cell phones that have this feature built in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So when you don't like the question you decide to not answer it and instead you state that the question shouldn't be asked?
Morons.  So, just so you understand: your personal views on the validity of the question itself is not an answer to the question.
You might think that those 'answers' are of interest, but they aren't.
You are a moron for spouting your religious views on the topic.
Yes I'm talking to you.
Really.  Yes you.
Not the other guy that did the exact thing you did, I'm talking to you.
Moron.  Religious freak.As for a direct answer to the original question, you should check out cell phones that have this feature built in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171367</id>
	<title>SPOT!</title>
	<author>vrmlguy</author>
	<datestamp>1243885680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You want (note that I didn't say need, that's being discussed elsewhere) a SPOT GPS Tracker.  Here's some details:  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOT\_Satellite\_Messenger" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOT\_Satellite\_Messenger</a> [wikipedia.org].  It's generally $149 for the unit and $100/year for the service.  I got one for my father-in-law, who's in his 80s and still working a cattle ranch.  If he finds himself in a situation that he can't handle, he just needs to press one button and help is on the way.  No need to worry about cell towers, it uses the Globalstar satellite network to send messages, so your kid can use it even while crossing the Atlantic in a kayak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You want ( note that I did n't say need , that 's being discussed elsewhere ) a SPOT GPS Tracker .
Here 's some details : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOT \ _Satellite \ _Messenger [ wikipedia.org ] .
It 's generally $ 149 for the unit and $ 100/year for the service .
I got one for my father-in-law , who 's in his 80s and still working a cattle ranch .
If he finds himself in a situation that he ca n't handle , he just needs to press one button and help is on the way .
No need to worry about cell towers , it uses the Globalstar satellite network to send messages , so your kid can use it even while crossing the Atlantic in a kayak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You want (note that I didn't say need, that's being discussed elsewhere) a SPOT GPS Tracker.
Here's some details:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPOT\_Satellite\_Messenger [wikipedia.org].
It's generally $149 for the unit and $100/year for the service.
I got one for my father-in-law, who's in his 80s and still working a cattle ranch.
If he finds himself in a situation that he can't handle, he just needs to press one button and help is on the way.
No need to worry about cell towers, it uses the Globalstar satellite network to send messages, so your kid can use it even while crossing the Atlantic in a kayak.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28184433</id>
	<title>Re:Placing children on the wrong bus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243966020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Completely, totally, absolutely agree--you're trusting the school with your offspring. The school has shown that it's not reliable about sending her home correctly.</p><p>Advice in two parts:</p><p>Tell your daughter 1) you trust her judgement more than the school's (because putting a tag on her makes it seem as if she's at fault), 2) it's ok to ask the bus driver to make sure she's on the right bus, 3) if anybody--teachers, bus drivers, other kids, hall monitors--gives her any grief you are on her side and 4) your telephone numbers so that she can call anytime. . . because really, that's the relationship you want to build now, for those tough years between 12 and 22.</p><p>Part 2: How hard is it for the school to buy some stickers, slap them on the buses, and tell the kids, "You will ALWAYS ride the Spongebob Squarepants bus to go home." Worked when I was 10 and an absentminded schoolchild. I got on the Donald Duck bus every single time! You probably aren't the only parent encountering this problem. Make the school fix it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Completely , totally , absolutely agree--you 're trusting the school with your offspring .
The school has shown that it 's not reliable about sending her home correctly.Advice in two parts : Tell your daughter 1 ) you trust her judgement more than the school 's ( because putting a tag on her makes it seem as if she 's at fault ) , 2 ) it 's ok to ask the bus driver to make sure she 's on the right bus , 3 ) if anybody--teachers , bus drivers , other kids , hall monitors--gives her any grief you are on her side and 4 ) your telephone numbers so that she can call anytime .
. .
because really , that 's the relationship you want to build now , for those tough years between 12 and 22.Part 2 : How hard is it for the school to buy some stickers , slap them on the buses , and tell the kids , " You will ALWAYS ride the Spongebob Squarepants bus to go home .
" Worked when I was 10 and an absentminded schoolchild .
I got on the Donald Duck bus every single time !
You probably are n't the only parent encountering this problem .
Make the school fix it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Completely, totally, absolutely agree--you're trusting the school with your offspring.
The school has shown that it's not reliable about sending her home correctly.Advice in two parts:Tell your daughter 1) you trust her judgement more than the school's (because putting a tag on her makes it seem as if she's at fault), 2) it's ok to ask the bus driver to make sure she's on the right bus, 3) if anybody--teachers, bus drivers, other kids, hall monitors--gives her any grief you are on her side and 4) your telephone numbers so that she can call anytime.
. .
because really, that's the relationship you want to build now, for those tough years between 12 and 22.Part 2: How hard is it for the school to buy some stickers, slap them on the buses, and tell the kids, "You will ALWAYS ride the Spongebob Squarepants bus to go home.
" Worked when I was 10 and an absentminded schoolchild.
I got on the Donald Duck bus every single time!
You probably aren't the only parent encountering this problem.
Make the school fix it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170839</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173817</id>
	<title>www.findmespot.com</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243851300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Works in the areas with no cellular signal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Works in the areas with no cellular signal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Works in the areas with no cellular signal.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172613</id>
	<title>Sigh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243846860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sigh...</p><p>Since when do we use technology to replace personal responsiblity?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sigh...Since when do we use technology to replace personal responsiblity ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sigh...Since when do we use technology to replace personal responsiblity?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28184281</id>
	<title>APRS via Ham radio</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243965300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Using HAM radio, I can do this using APRS (http://www.aprs.org)  A GPS receiver tied to a mini-computer that you can build as a kit that acts as a modem for a small pocket-sized radio.

Byonics (http://www.byonics.com) sells the kits called TinyTrak's or they make an all-in-one package that does this: <a href="http://www.byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php" title="byonics.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php</a> [byonics.com]  APRS is the packet radio format of the radio transmission, and it's picked up by APRS users in the area and forwarded over to an internet gateway.  Then you could go to <a href="http://www.findu.com/" title="findu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.findu.com/</a> [findu.com] or <a href="http://aprs.fi/" title="aprs.fi" rel="nofollow">http://aprs.fi/</a> [aprs.fi] to locate your call sign and watch it's movements.  I do this all the time with my car and most cities have really good coverage.  The only downside is it would require you to get a HAM license (not hard at all) and you can not use encryption at all.  You would have to accept the fact that anyone can track your call sign, you don't have to give out your callsign to anyone though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Using HAM radio , I can do this using APRS ( http : //www.aprs.org ) A GPS receiver tied to a mini-computer that you can build as a kit that acts as a modem for a small pocket-sized radio .
Byonics ( http : //www.byonics.com ) sells the kits called TinyTrak 's or they make an all-in-one package that does this : http : //www.byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php [ byonics.com ] APRS is the packet radio format of the radio transmission , and it 's picked up by APRS users in the area and forwarded over to an internet gateway .
Then you could go to http : //www.findu.com/ [ findu.com ] or http : //aprs.fi/ [ aprs.fi ] to locate your call sign and watch it 's movements .
I do this all the time with my car and most cities have really good coverage .
The only downside is it would require you to get a HAM license ( not hard at all ) and you can not use encryption at all .
You would have to accept the fact that anyone can track your call sign , you do n't have to give out your callsign to anyone though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using HAM radio, I can do this using APRS (http://www.aprs.org)  A GPS receiver tied to a mini-computer that you can build as a kit that acts as a modem for a small pocket-sized radio.
Byonics (http://www.byonics.com) sells the kits called TinyTrak's or they make an all-in-one package that does this: http://www.byonics.com/microtrak/mtaio.php [byonics.com]  APRS is the packet radio format of the radio transmission, and it's picked up by APRS users in the area and forwarded over to an internet gateway.
Then you could go to http://www.findu.com/ [findu.com] or http://aprs.fi/ [aprs.fi] to locate your call sign and watch it's movements.
I do this all the time with my car and most cities have really good coverage.
The only downside is it would require you to get a HAM license (not hard at all) and you can not use encryption at all.
You would have to accept the fact that anyone can track your call sign, you don't have to give out your callsign to anyone though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171597</id>
	<title>I recommend Home-schooling.</title>
	<author>TrebleJunkie</author>
	<datestamp>1243886640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Home-school your kids instead.  Seriously.  Not only will the school district not lose your kids, they can't turn their heads to mush with go-green (environmentalist) or go-red (socialist) or go-blank (subjectivist) drek, either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Home-school your kids instead .
Seriously. Not only will the school district not lose your kids , they ca n't turn their heads to mush with go-green ( environmentalist ) or go-red ( socialist ) or go-blank ( subjectivist ) drek , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Home-school your kids instead.
Seriously.  Not only will the school district not lose your kids, they can't turn their heads to mush with go-green (environmentalist) or go-red (socialist) or go-blank (subjectivist) drek, either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170965</id>
	<title>Homeschool</title>
	<author>robkeeney</author>
	<datestamp>1243884240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your child will not be misplaced again...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your child will not be misplaced again.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your child will not be misplaced again...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170835</id>
	<title>Great online service</title>
	<author>PIPBoy3000</author>
	<datestamp>1243883820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.themobiletracker.com/" title="themobiletracker.com">This one</a> [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This one [ themobiletracker.com ] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife , anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This one [themobiletracker.com] seemed to work pretty well at finding my wife, anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171885</id>
	<title>We use pictures</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243887480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A) Yes you are overreacting<br>B) This is pretty easy to fix</p><p>As a parent in a city with 36 different schools and countless buses I know what you mean. But there is no reason to tag your little girl. All buses look alike, big yellow with numbers on the side. To make things easy and to avoid duplicate numbers from different bus providers they put a picture in the bus window on colored paper. So your kid might ride bus "Blue Hammer", So obviously the sign is on blue paper with a big picture of a hammer. If your kid manages to get on the wrong bus with that system, either they are not paying attention or they might need that "special" bus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A ) Yes you are overreactingB ) This is pretty easy to fixAs a parent in a city with 36 different schools and countless buses I know what you mean .
But there is no reason to tag your little girl .
All buses look alike , big yellow with numbers on the side .
To make things easy and to avoid duplicate numbers from different bus providers they put a picture in the bus window on colored paper .
So your kid might ride bus " Blue Hammer " , So obviously the sign is on blue paper with a big picture of a hammer .
If your kid manages to get on the wrong bus with that system , either they are not paying attention or they might need that " special " bus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A) Yes you are overreactingB) This is pretty easy to fixAs a parent in a city with 36 different schools and countless buses I know what you mean.
But there is no reason to tag your little girl.
All buses look alike, big yellow with numbers on the side.
To make things easy and to avoid duplicate numbers from different bus providers they put a picture in the bus window on colored paper.
So your kid might ride bus "Blue Hammer", So obviously the sign is on blue paper with a big picture of a hammer.
If your kid manages to get on the wrong bus with that system, either they are not paying attention or they might need that "special" bus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172505</id>
	<title>Wow</title>
	<author>polymerousgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1243889760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Totally read this as "Chili Locating System"<br> <br>
I'd buy it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Totally read this as " Chili Locating System " I 'd buy it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Totally read this as "Chili Locating System" 
I'd buy it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171383</id>
	<title>Cell Phone is no solution</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1243885800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am reading a lot of 'just get a cell phone'. Problem is, true GPS requires clear view of the sky to work consistently. That means the cell phone would could not be in a pocket or a backpack, ever. One could use the cell signal's 'location estimator' which might be accurate or might be of by 100's of meters and also required a data plan, but that's not really GPS anymore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am reading a lot of 'just get a cell phone' .
Problem is , true GPS requires clear view of the sky to work consistently .
That means the cell phone would could not be in a pocket or a backpack , ever .
One could use the cell signal 's 'location estimator ' which might be accurate or might be of by 100 's of meters and also required a data plan , but that 's not really GPS anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am reading a lot of 'just get a cell phone'.
Problem is, true GPS requires clear view of the sky to work consistently.
That means the cell phone would could not be in a pocket or a backpack, ever.
One could use the cell signal's 'location estimator' which might be accurate or might be of by 100's of meters and also required a data plan, but that's not really GPS anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170923</id>
	<title>Ditch the school district . . .</title>
	<author>PolygamousRanchKid </author>
	<datestamp>1243884180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you have a high tech way of locating your daughter.  Do you feel like going on a wild goose chase for here once a week?
</p><p>Forget the high tech, change your school, that's where the problem is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you have a high tech way of locating your daughter .
Do you feel like going on a wild goose chase for here once a week ?
Forget the high tech , change your school , that 's where the problem is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you have a high tech way of locating your daughter.
Do you feel like going on a wild goose chase for here once a week?
Forget the high tech, change your school, that's where the problem is.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172237</id>
	<title>Re:Neural network...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Program it to recognize a local authority figure like a policeman or teacher and provide them with the destination information so that they can help it find home.</p></div><p>It's not necessary to find an "authority," the trick is to teach your child to pick herself whom to ask for help, instead of following (the advice of) a rendom stranger that approached them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Program it to recognize a local authority figure like a policeman or teacher and provide them with the destination information so that they can help it find home.It 's not necessary to find an " authority , " the trick is to teach your child to pick herself whom to ask for help , instead of following ( the advice of ) a rendom stranger that approached them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Program it to recognize a local authority figure like a policeman or teacher and provide them with the destination information so that they can help it find home.It's not necessary to find an "authority," the trick is to teach your child to pick herself whom to ask for help, instead of following (the advice of) a rendom stranger that approached them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170921</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171607</id>
	<title>Re:Zoomback...</title>
	<author>FictionPimp</author>
	<datestamp>1243886700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That looks promising. Just sew it right into her backpack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That looks promising .
Just sew it right into her backpack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That looks promising.
Just sew it right into her backpack.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170829</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172649</id>
	<title>Re:It's amazing really</title>
	<author>Pigeon451</author>
	<datestamp>1243847040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Who needs safety gear like seat belts, air bags, no smoking in restaurants, restricted pesticide use, unleaded pipes, etc. etc. etc. This "safety" doesn't guarantee someone will live to xx years old, it just increases the odds -- which is fine by me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I could n't agree more .
Who needs safety gear like seat belts , air bags , no smoking in restaurants , restricted pesticide use , unleaded pipes , etc .
etc. etc .
This " safety " does n't guarantee someone will live to xx years old , it just increases the odds -- which is fine by me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
Who needs safety gear like seat belts, air bags, no smoking in restaurants, restricted pesticide use, unleaded pipes, etc.
etc. etc.
This "safety" doesn't guarantee someone will live to xx years old, it just increases the odds -- which is fine by me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170909</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171143</id>
	<title>Don't try for a workaround. Try for a solution</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1243884960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're like someone installing a firewall when an unpatched service allows arbitrary connections, instead of patching the service.</p><p>Your school places your daughter on the wrong bus, that's the problem. Not that you can't track her. Solve the underlying problem instead. Either storm the principal's office and fire up a storm, get the PTA (if existant) to do something about the problem (since it's a "recurring problem" you're certainly not the only parent in that situation, get in touch with the other parents) and if everything fails, get another school to teach your kids (which is probably a sensible idea anyway, if they're not able to get your daughter in the right bus and didn't manage to teach her to choose the right one, it's likely they don't manage to teach her anything else either).</p><p>You're looking for the solution for the wrong problem. The problem isn't that you can't find your daughter. The problem is that she isn't where she should be in the first place. Don't cure the symptom, cure the sickness!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're like someone installing a firewall when an unpatched service allows arbitrary connections , instead of patching the service.Your school places your daughter on the wrong bus , that 's the problem .
Not that you ca n't track her .
Solve the underlying problem instead .
Either storm the principal 's office and fire up a storm , get the PTA ( if existant ) to do something about the problem ( since it 's a " recurring problem " you 're certainly not the only parent in that situation , get in touch with the other parents ) and if everything fails , get another school to teach your kids ( which is probably a sensible idea anyway , if they 're not able to get your daughter in the right bus and did n't manage to teach her to choose the right one , it 's likely they do n't manage to teach her anything else either ) .You 're looking for the solution for the wrong problem .
The problem is n't that you ca n't find your daughter .
The problem is that she is n't where she should be in the first place .
Do n't cure the symptom , cure the sickness !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're like someone installing a firewall when an unpatched service allows arbitrary connections, instead of patching the service.Your school places your daughter on the wrong bus, that's the problem.
Not that you can't track her.
Solve the underlying problem instead.
Either storm the principal's office and fire up a storm, get the PTA (if existant) to do something about the problem (since it's a "recurring problem" you're certainly not the only parent in that situation, get in touch with the other parents) and if everything fails, get another school to teach your kids (which is probably a sensible idea anyway, if they're not able to get your daughter in the right bus and didn't manage to teach her to choose the right one, it's likely they don't manage to teach her anything else either).You're looking for the solution for the wrong problem.
The problem isn't that you can't find your daughter.
The problem is that she isn't where she should be in the first place.
Don't cure the symptom, cure the sickness!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173259</id>
	<title>"where are you?"</title>
	<author>Cajun Hell</author>
	<datestamp>1243849320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Therefore, I would like input on a way to be able to keep track of my child.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Give her a phone. When you want to know where she is, call her and say, "This is dad.  Where are you?"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Therefore , I would like input on a way to be able to keep track of my child .
Give her a phone .
When you want to know where she is , call her and say , " This is dad .
Where are you ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Therefore, I would like input on a way to be able to keep track of my child.
Give her a phone.
When you want to know where she is, call her and say, "This is dad.
Where are you?
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172129</id>
	<title>The "High Visibility" Method</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243888200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Get your daughter a cell phone and a backpack.  In the backpack goes a metal storm unit loaded with flares.  Have the cell phone activate the unit and away you go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Get your daughter a cell phone and a backpack .
In the backpack goes a metal storm unit loaded with flares .
Have the cell phone activate the unit and away you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get your daughter a cell phone and a backpack.
In the backpack goes a metal storm unit loaded with flares.
Have the cell phone activate the unit and away you go.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28174081</id>
	<title>Re:Blackberry and Latitude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243852200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>holy crap. you are doing this to an almost teenage girl and you think you will get away with it? she's going to hate you the next couple of years anyways. why make it last into her twenties?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>holy crap .
you are doing this to an almost teenage girl and you think you will get away with it ?
she 's going to hate you the next couple of years anyways .
why make it last into her twenties ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>holy crap.
you are doing this to an almost teenage girl and you think you will get away with it?
she's going to hate you the next couple of years anyways.
why make it last into her twenties?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171661</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172589</id>
	<title>GTA 4</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243846800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GTA 4 made fun of you you now</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GTA 4 made fun of you you now</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GTA 4 made fun of you you now</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172459</id>
	<title>When did this happen?</title>
	<author>AnotherBlackHat</author>
	<datestamp>1243889580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done.</p> </div><p>Your daughter's school starts in May?  Where do you live, Thailand?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter , I have decided that something needs to be done .
Your daughter 's school starts in May ?
Where do you live , Thailand ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done.
Your daughter's school starts in May?
Where do you live, Thailand?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28171177</id>
	<title>Re:Drive her</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1243885020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Plus you might get a monthly check from whoever to reimburse you for not having your kid using the public school bus.  At least that's how it works in New Jersey.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plus you might get a monthly check from whoever to reimburse you for not having your kid using the public school bus .
At least that 's how it works in New Jersey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plus you might get a monthly check from whoever to reimburse you for not having your kid using the public school bus.
At least that's how it works in New Jersey.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28170855</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28173457</id>
	<title>This is not a technical problem</title>
	<author>djlowe</author>
	<datestamp>1243849920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You are looking for a technical solution to a non-technical problem.<blockquote><div><p>However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done.</p></div></blockquote><p>I agree with you, something *should* be done: You should call the school, and ask for an appointment with the principal and express your concerns to him or her in person, and ask what they are doing to ensure that it doesn't happen again. If you aren't satisfied with the response, take the matter up with the Superintendent and finally, if necessary, the School Board.</p><blockquote><div><p>By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong buses</p></div></blockquote><p>Which is why it's all the more important to address the source of the problem. Your proposed solution works only for your daughter, and then only when she becomes lost. A much more desirable outcome is that this not happen at all, and fixing the cause of the problem resolves the situation not only for you and your child, but for other parents and their children as well.<br> <br>Regards,<br> <br>dj</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are looking for a technical solution to a non-technical problem.However , since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter , I have decided that something needs to be done.I agree with you , something * should * be done : You should call the school , and ask for an appointment with the principal and express your concerns to him or her in person , and ask what they are doing to ensure that it does n't happen again .
If you are n't satisfied with the response , take the matter up with the Superintendent and finally , if necessary , the School Board.By the school district 's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong busesWhich is why it 's all the more important to address the source of the problem .
Your proposed solution works only for your daughter , and then only when she becomes lost .
A much more desirable outcome is that this not happen at all , and fixing the cause of the problem resolves the situation not only for you and your child , but for other parents and their children as well .
Regards , dj</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are looking for a technical solution to a non-technical problem.However, since it took less than three days for my local school district to misplace my daughter, I have decided that something needs to be done.I agree with you, something *should* be done: You should call the school, and ask for an appointment with the principal and express your concerns to him or her in person, and ask what they are doing to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
If you aren't satisfied with the response, take the matter up with the Superintendent and finally, if necessary, the School Board.By the school district's own admission it is a recurring problem of placing children on the wrong busesWhich is why it's all the more important to address the source of the problem.
Your proposed solution works only for your daughter, and then only when she becomes lost.
A much more desirable outcome is that this not happen at all, and fixing the cause of the problem resolves the situation not only for you and your child, but for other parents and their children as well.
Regards, dj
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172795</id>
	<title>Making a child locator....</title>
	<author>Nichole\_knc</author>
	<datestamp>1243847640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Retractable leaches comes to mind....</htmltext>
<tokenext>Retractable leaches comes to mind... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Retractable leaches comes to mind....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28185091</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243968600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just do what I do... Have the limo drive pick up the kid and drop him off at the salon where mommy is spending his inheritance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just do what I do... Have the limo drive pick up the kid and drop him off at the salon where mommy is spending his inheritance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just do what I do... Have the limo drive pick up the kid and drop him off at the salon where mommy is spending his inheritance.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28177623</id>
	<title>Re:It's not just what you ask for yourself</title>
	<author>DNS-and-BIND</author>
	<datestamp>1243876440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's always 3 groups who get the invasive technology before all others: prisoners, children, and the military.  They all have fewer rights than anyone else in society.  In all 3 cases, we say it is for their own good; prisoners so they stay where they are, children so they don't wander off, and soldiers so that you can see them on the blue force tracker.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's always 3 groups who get the invasive technology before all others : prisoners , children , and the military .
They all have fewer rights than anyone else in society .
In all 3 cases , we say it is for their own good ; prisoners so they stay where they are , children so they do n't wander off , and soldiers so that you can see them on the blue force tracker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's always 3 groups who get the invasive technology before all others: prisoners, children, and the military.
They all have fewer rights than anyone else in society.
In all 3 cases, we say it is for their own good; prisoners so they stay where they are, children so they don't wander off, and soldiers so that you can see them on the blue force tracker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28172699</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_06_01_1659209.28176989</id>
	<title>I have a better idea:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243870320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Replace the bloody-rotten public school system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Replace the bloody-rotten public school system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Replace the bloody-rotten public school system.</sentencetext>
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