<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_05_28_1745203</id>
	<title>45-Year-Old Modem Used To Surf the Web</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1243535580000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>EdIII writes with this awesome snippet from Hack a Day: <i>"'[phreakmonkey] got his hands on a great piece of old tech. It's a <a href="http://hackaday.com/2009/05/27/1964-300baud-modem-surfs-the-web/">1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem</a>. He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work. It took some digging to find a proper D25 adapter and even then the original serial adapter wasn't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage. He dials in and connects at 300baud. Then logs into a remote system and fires up lynx to load Wikipedia. Lucky for [phreakmonkey] they managed to decide on a modulation standard in 1962. It's still amazing to see this machine working 45 years later.' Although impractical for surfing the Internet today, there is something truly cool about getting a 45-year old modem to work with modern technology.  The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?  I'm afraid as far back as I can go is a Number Nine Imagine 128 Series 2 Graphics card on a server still in use at my house which only puts me at about 14 years."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>EdIII writes with this awesome snippet from Hack a Day : " ' [ phreakmonkey ] got his hands on a great piece of old tech .
It 's a 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem .
He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work .
It took some digging to find a proper D25 adapter and even then the original serial adapter was n't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage .
He dials in and connects at 300baud .
Then logs into a remote system and fires up lynx to load Wikipedia .
Lucky for [ phreakmonkey ] they managed to decide on a modulation standard in 1962 .
It 's still amazing to see this machine working 45 years later .
' Although impractical for surfing the Internet today , there is something truly cool about getting a 45-year old modem to work with modern technology .
The question I have , is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there ?
I 'm afraid as far back as I can go is a Number Nine Imagine 128 Series 2 Graphics card on a server still in use at my house which only puts me at about 14 years .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EdIII writes with this awesome snippet from Hack a Day: "'[phreakmonkey] got his hands on a great piece of old tech.
It's a 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem.
He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work.
It took some digging to find a proper D25 adapter and even then the original serial adapter wasn't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage.
He dials in and connects at 300baud.
Then logs into a remote system and fires up lynx to load Wikipedia.
Lucky for [phreakmonkey] they managed to decide on a modulation standard in 1962.
It's still amazing to see this machine working 45 years later.
' Although impractical for surfing the Internet today, there is something truly cool about getting a 45-year old modem to work with modern technology.
The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?
I'm afraid as far back as I can go is a Number Nine Imagine 128 Series 2 Graphics card on a server still in use at my house which only puts me at about 14 years.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129879</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1243504020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't think I can match that, but I have a sliderule somewhere in the attic thats at least 40 years old.  Great little computer, and surprisingly fast once you get used to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't think I can match that , but I have a sliderule somewhere in the attic thats at least 40 years old .
Great little computer , and surprisingly fast once you get used to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't think I can match that, but I have a sliderule somewhere in the attic thats at least 40 years old.
Great little computer, and surprisingly fast once you get used to it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128631</id>
	<title>DSL modem, circa 2000</title>
	<author>jfruhlinger</author>
	<datestamp>1243542720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not ludicrously old, but: my DSL modem died a few months ago (my own fault -- if it has air vents in it, they may actually be there for a reason, not just to look cool and futuristic).  I went into a bit of a panic, because, really, where does one get a DSL modem, especially if one suddenly has no Internet access?  I feared calling Verizon would result in long delays, pricey expenditures, and/or bafflement.</p><p>Fortunately, a friend of mine up the street who I knew to be a bit of a tech hoarder still had his, even though he had switched to line-of-site wireless years ago.  The modem was nearly 10 years old, and twice as big as the one I'd been using, but sure enough I just plugged it into my phone line and worked great -- same speeds I was getting with the old modem (2.8M down, 600K up).  I was sort of shocked that something that old could just plug in to my current set up with no changes, but I suppose there haven't exactly been great strides in DSL technologies over the past decade or so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not ludicrously old , but : my DSL modem died a few months ago ( my own fault -- if it has air vents in it , they may actually be there for a reason , not just to look cool and futuristic ) .
I went into a bit of a panic , because , really , where does one get a DSL modem , especially if one suddenly has no Internet access ?
I feared calling Verizon would result in long delays , pricey expenditures , and/or bafflement.Fortunately , a friend of mine up the street who I knew to be a bit of a tech hoarder still had his , even though he had switched to line-of-site wireless years ago .
The modem was nearly 10 years old , and twice as big as the one I 'd been using , but sure enough I just plugged it into my phone line and worked great -- same speeds I was getting with the old modem ( 2.8M down , 600K up ) .
I was sort of shocked that something that old could just plug in to my current set up with no changes , but I suppose there have n't exactly been great strides in DSL technologies over the past decade or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not ludicrously old, but: my DSL modem died a few months ago (my own fault -- if it has air vents in it, they may actually be there for a reason, not just to look cool and futuristic).
I went into a bit of a panic, because, really, where does one get a DSL modem, especially if one suddenly has no Internet access?
I feared calling Verizon would result in long delays, pricey expenditures, and/or bafflement.Fortunately, a friend of mine up the street who I knew to be a bit of a tech hoarder still had his, even though he had switched to line-of-site wireless years ago.
The modem was nearly 10 years old, and twice as big as the one I'd been using, but sure enough I just plugged it into my phone line and worked great -- same speeds I was getting with the old modem (2.8M down, 600K up).
I was sort of shocked that something that old could just plug in to my current set up with no changes, but I suppose there haven't exactly been great strides in DSL technologies over the past decade or so.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129673</id>
	<title>My oldest gear</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243503060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1972 TI 2500 Datamath : one of the first pocket calculator<br>1974 HP 65 : first programmable pocket calculator<br>1978 Digital Equipement Corporation VT100 hooked up to my Linux PC. Already surfed the web with Lynx on it and it's fast enough<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>1979 Apple ][ europlus, still working great !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1972 TI 2500 Datamath : one of the first pocket calculator1974 HP 65 : first programmable pocket calculator1978 Digital Equipement Corporation VT100 hooked up to my Linux PC .
Already surfed the web with Lynx on it and it 's fast enough : ) 1979 Apple ] [ europlus , still working great !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1972 TI 2500 Datamath : one of the first pocket calculator1974 HP 65 : first programmable pocket calculator1978 Digital Equipement Corporation VT100 hooked up to my Linux PC.
Already surfed the web with Lynx on it and it's fast enough :)1979 Apple ][ europlus, still working great !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130261</id>
	<title>Re:TI-99/4A</title>
	<author>Avatar8</author>
	<datestamp>1243505400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep, I have two of those and both still in good working condition.<br>
Add the 13" RGB monitor, cassette storage device, speech synthesizer and dozens of cartridges and manuals and I've got a nice little setup. I get it out once in a while to play a few nostalgic games (Tunnels of Doom &amp; Parsec) and help my daughters appreciate how much computers have changed and stayed the same. I learned how to count in hexidecimal (how you programmed graphic tiles) and program in BASIC on that machine a few years before I touched a PC.<p>
I also have an Atari 800 and an original IBM XT(?) with only floppy disks and a green monochrome monitor. It even has a Sperry wide carriage dot matrix printer with a parallel cable permanently attached to the printer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , I have two of those and both still in good working condition .
Add the 13 " RGB monitor , cassette storage device , speech synthesizer and dozens of cartridges and manuals and I 've got a nice little setup .
I get it out once in a while to play a few nostalgic games ( Tunnels of Doom &amp; Parsec ) and help my daughters appreciate how much computers have changed and stayed the same .
I learned how to count in hexidecimal ( how you programmed graphic tiles ) and program in BASIC on that machine a few years before I touched a PC .
I also have an Atari 800 and an original IBM XT ( ?
) with only floppy disks and a green monochrome monitor .
It even has a Sperry wide carriage dot matrix printer with a parallel cable permanently attached to the printer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, I have two of those and both still in good working condition.
Add the 13" RGB monitor, cassette storage device, speech synthesizer and dozens of cartridges and manuals and I've got a nice little setup.
I get it out once in a while to play a few nostalgic games (Tunnels of Doom &amp; Parsec) and help my daughters appreciate how much computers have changed and stayed the same.
I learned how to count in hexidecimal (how you programmed graphic tiles) and program in BASIC on that machine a few years before I touched a PC.
I also have an Atari 800 and an original IBM XT(?
) with only floppy disks and a green monochrome monitor.
It even has a Sperry wide carriage dot matrix printer with a parallel cable permanently attached to the printer.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128523</id>
	<title>Electronic or Mechanical?</title>
	<author>beadfulthings</author>
	<datestamp>1243542480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we're talking about mechanical stuff, I have a clock that dates back to before the Civil War. I have a 1957 model sewing machine I use whenever I need to sew something. I have a gold pocket watch given to a distant relative in 1916--he died in combat in France shortly thereafter. I have a fountain pen engraved with the year 1910 that still writes, and several that date back to the 1920's-1950's, all in working order. I have a Colt 25 caliber automatic pistol that seems to have been manufactured around 1914--called the "Vestpocket" pistol. My upright freezer was first purchased 32 years ago. All this stuff has been in the family, and the secret is that it's all been used and cared for.</p><p>My oldest piece of working electronic equipment is a 1992 vintage Mac Duo Dock subnotebook.</p><p>Take care of your stuff, and your stuff will take care of you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we 're talking about mechanical stuff , I have a clock that dates back to before the Civil War .
I have a 1957 model sewing machine I use whenever I need to sew something .
I have a gold pocket watch given to a distant relative in 1916--he died in combat in France shortly thereafter .
I have a fountain pen engraved with the year 1910 that still writes , and several that date back to the 1920 's-1950 's , all in working order .
I have a Colt 25 caliber automatic pistol that seems to have been manufactured around 1914--called the " Vestpocket " pistol .
My upright freezer was first purchased 32 years ago .
All this stuff has been in the family , and the secret is that it 's all been used and cared for.My oldest piece of working electronic equipment is a 1992 vintage Mac Duo Dock subnotebook.Take care of your stuff , and your stuff will take care of you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we're talking about mechanical stuff, I have a clock that dates back to before the Civil War.
I have a 1957 model sewing machine I use whenever I need to sew something.
I have a gold pocket watch given to a distant relative in 1916--he died in combat in France shortly thereafter.
I have a fountain pen engraved with the year 1910 that still writes, and several that date back to the 1920's-1950's, all in working order.
I have a Colt 25 caliber automatic pistol that seems to have been manufactured around 1914--called the "Vestpocket" pistol.
My upright freezer was first purchased 32 years ago.
All this stuff has been in the family, and the secret is that it's all been used and cared for.My oldest piece of working electronic equipment is a 1992 vintage Mac Duo Dock subnotebook.Take care of your stuff, and your stuff will take care of you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131575</id>
	<title>Technical nit-pick.</title>
	<author>dannycim</author>
	<datestamp>1243511400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Little nit-pick: The guy in the vid says that the tones are interrupted to represent data.  This is wrong, the tone actually switches frequency.  It's called Frequency Shift Keying.</p><p>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell\_103\_modem" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell\_103\_modem</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Little nit-pick : The guy in the vid says that the tones are interrupted to represent data .
This is wrong , the tone actually switches frequency .
It 's called Frequency Shift Keying.See http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell \ _103 \ _modem [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Little nit-pick: The guy in the vid says that the tones are interrupted to represent data.
This is wrong, the tone actually switches frequency.
It's called Frequency Shift Keying.See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell\_103\_modem [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128665</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>pjabardo</author>
	<datestamp>1243542840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who needs a mid 50's oscilloscope on their car !?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who needs a mid 50 's oscilloscope on their car ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who needs a mid 50's oscilloscope on their car !?
!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129491</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Cedric Tsui</author>
	<datestamp>1243502400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oscilloscope I can understand. But why is it in your car?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oscilloscope I can understand .
But why is it in your car ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oscilloscope I can understand.
But why is it in your car?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28138023</id>
	<title>I can go back 30 years</title>
	<author>wcrowe</author>
	<datestamp>1243608240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Without too much effort, I've been able to surf the web with my 1979 Heathkit H89.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Without too much effort , I 've been able to surf the web with my 1979 Heathkit H89 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Without too much effort, I've been able to surf the web with my 1979 Heathkit H89.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137863</id>
	<title>PCjr, C64, and, lo, a DEC VT102 terminal</title>
	<author>jfederline</author>
	<datestamp>1243607580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still have a working PCjr, Commodore 64, and also a Commodore 128.

I got rid of my HP PA-RISC 712 pizza box, my Sun lunchboxes and pizza boxes, and my IBM RISC 7012.

In college I sold my blazing fast AMD 386SX40 with 40MB HD for cash money (which I ran Linux 0.99pl14 on), when I found an old DEC VT102 terminal - I used it to dial up the modem pool with my Ven-Tel 1200 bps modem and access the DEC EP/IX system at school. ATDT, baby.

The Intertubes now are not what I thought they would become back then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have a working PCjr , Commodore 64 , and also a Commodore 128 .
I got rid of my HP PA-RISC 712 pizza box , my Sun lunchboxes and pizza boxes , and my IBM RISC 7012 .
In college I sold my blazing fast AMD 386SX40 with 40MB HD for cash money ( which I ran Linux 0.99pl14 on ) , when I found an old DEC VT102 terminal - I used it to dial up the modem pool with my Ven-Tel 1200 bps modem and access the DEC EP/IX system at school .
ATDT , baby .
The Intertubes now are not what I thought they would become back then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have a working PCjr, Commodore 64, and also a Commodore 128.
I got rid of my HP PA-RISC 712 pizza box, my Sun lunchboxes and pizza boxes, and my IBM RISC 7012.
In college I sold my blazing fast AMD 386SX40 with 40MB HD for cash money (which I ran Linux 0.99pl14 on), when I found an old DEC VT102 terminal - I used it to dial up the modem pool with my Ven-Tel 1200 bps modem and access the DEC EP/IX system at school.
ATDT, baby.
The Intertubes now are not what I thought they would become back then.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131099</id>
	<title>the classic TRS-80</title>
	<author>Danzigism</author>
	<datestamp>1243509060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that is awesome that this guy got that modem to work. I find it kind of fascinating too that something as fast as a 300 baud modem was around 40+ years ago. People were using 300 bauds in the early 80's and I'm sure were blown away when 1200, 2400, 4800, and 9600 bauds came out. I'd have to say that my oldest machine is a TRS-80 Model III that I bought at local band-boosters auction. All the participants laughed at it and of course nobody bid on it except me. Cost me only a buck, and it came with all the original documentation including a great book on TRS-BASIC. It plays Asteroids, some old Pinball game, and it still works like a dream.</htmltext>
<tokenext>that is awesome that this guy got that modem to work .
I find it kind of fascinating too that something as fast as a 300 baud modem was around 40 + years ago .
People were using 300 bauds in the early 80 's and I 'm sure were blown away when 1200 , 2400 , 4800 , and 9600 bauds came out .
I 'd have to say that my oldest machine is a TRS-80 Model III that I bought at local band-boosters auction .
All the participants laughed at it and of course nobody bid on it except me .
Cost me only a buck , and it came with all the original documentation including a great book on TRS-BASIC .
It plays Asteroids , some old Pinball game , and it still works like a dream .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that is awesome that this guy got that modem to work.
I find it kind of fascinating too that something as fast as a 300 baud modem was around 40+ years ago.
People were using 300 bauds in the early 80's and I'm sure were blown away when 1200, 2400, 4800, and 9600 bauds came out.
I'd have to say that my oldest machine is a TRS-80 Model III that I bought at local band-boosters auction.
All the participants laughed at it and of course nobody bid on it except me.
Cost me only a buck, and it came with all the original documentation including a great book on TRS-BASIC.
It plays Asteroids, some old Pinball game, and it still works like a dream.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128139</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Twinbee</author>
	<datestamp>1243541460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you ever used the Amiga 4000 keyboard? That had one of the nicest touch on the keys you can get imo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever used the Amiga 4000 keyboard ?
That had one of the nicest touch on the keys you can get imo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever used the Amiga 4000 keyboard?
That had one of the nicest touch on the keys you can get imo.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127531</id>
	<title>Still working with Paper Tape</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The CNC industry is still using NC machines built to work with paper tape.  30 years old and still going strong<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The CNC industry is still using NC machines built to work with paper tape .
30 years old and still going strong .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CNC industry is still using NC machines built to work with paper tape.
30 years old and still going strong ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129779</id>
	<title>Re:"Would you like to play a game?"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243503480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Move in men, we got him! It might have been 24 years and $100,000,000 in taxpayer monies, but we finally got him! HEY EVERYBODY, WE CAUGHT SOMEONE WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Move in men , we got him !
It might have been 24 years and $ 100,000,000 in taxpayer monies , but we finally got him !
HEY EVERYBODY , WE CAUGHT SOMEONE WE WE 'RE LOOKING FOR ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Move in men, we got him!
It might have been 24 years and $100,000,000 in taxpayer monies, but we finally got him!
HEY EVERYBODY, WE CAUGHT SOMEONE WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR!!
!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127897</id>
	<title>The SD2 or the 1702;that's model number, not year.</title>
	<author>The Archon V2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1243540860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a few older pieces in storage elsewhere, but the oldest I can get my hands on without having to leave the apartment is either an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSD\_Super\_Disk" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">MSD SD2 drive</a> [wikipedia.org] or a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore\_64\_peripherals#Other\_peripherals" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">1702</a> [wikipedia.org]  monitor.<p>

When I moved I put my C64s into storage, but I brought these two with me. The SD2 was the first piece of hardware I ever fixed. (Sure, it was just a blown fuse, but there's nothing like being given something that was about to be thrown out and making it work just like new.) The monitor was stol^H^H^H^Hsalvaged though wasn't even broken (no one knew how to plug anything into it, so it was left to languish).</p><p>

Of course, while I'm reasonably sure the SD2 is working (the move wasn't THAT brutal), since I didn't have room for the C64s I have nothing to plug it in to. Though my 1702 monitor works just peachy when fed a composite TV signal. In a pinch, I even used it for a - very blurry - PC monitor on a computer with TV out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a few older pieces in storage elsewhere , but the oldest I can get my hands on without having to leave the apartment is either an MSD SD2 drive [ wikipedia.org ] or a 1702 [ wikipedia.org ] monitor .
When I moved I put my C64s into storage , but I brought these two with me .
The SD2 was the first piece of hardware I ever fixed .
( Sure , it was just a blown fuse , but there 's nothing like being given something that was about to be thrown out and making it work just like new .
) The monitor was stol ^ H ^ H ^ H ^ Hsalvaged though was n't even broken ( no one knew how to plug anything into it , so it was left to languish ) .
Of course , while I 'm reasonably sure the SD2 is working ( the move was n't THAT brutal ) , since I did n't have room for the C64s I have nothing to plug it in to .
Though my 1702 monitor works just peachy when fed a composite TV signal .
In a pinch , I even used it for a - very blurry - PC monitor on a computer with TV out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a few older pieces in storage elsewhere, but the oldest I can get my hands on without having to leave the apartment is either an MSD SD2 drive [wikipedia.org] or a 1702 [wikipedia.org]  monitor.
When I moved I put my C64s into storage, but I brought these two with me.
The SD2 was the first piece of hardware I ever fixed.
(Sure, it was just a blown fuse, but there's nothing like being given something that was about to be thrown out and making it work just like new.
) The monitor was stol^H^H^H^Hsalvaged though wasn't even broken (no one knew how to plug anything into it, so it was left to languish).
Of course, while I'm reasonably sure the SD2 is working (the move wasn't THAT brutal), since I didn't have room for the C64s I have nothing to plug it in to.
Though my 1702 monitor works just peachy when fed a composite TV signal.
In a pinch, I even used it for a - very blurry - PC monitor on a computer with TV out.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136331</id>
	<title>Still in daily use...</title>
	<author>Alt0n</author>
	<datestamp>1243593660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The corkscrew my grandfather brought home from the railways over 60 years ago. I can see it becoming obsolete sometime this century<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>The corkscrew my grandfather brought home from the railways over 60 years ago .
I can see it becoming obsolete sometime this century : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The corkscrew my grandfather brought home from the railways over 60 years ago.
I can see it becoming obsolete sometime this century :(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128619</id>
	<title>TI 99 4a</title>
	<author>notarockstar1979</author>
	<datestamp>1243542720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Learned TI Basic on it.  Still works like a charm and I still break it out once in a great while when I'm feeling nostalgic.  Still save to cassette tape when I use it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Learned TI Basic on it .
Still works like a charm and I still break it out once in a great while when I 'm feeling nostalgic .
Still save to cassette tape when I use it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Learned TI Basic on it.
Still works like a charm and I still break it out once in a great while when I'm feeling nostalgic.
Still save to cassette tape when I use it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129983</id>
	<title>My calculator</title>
	<author>wired\_parrot</author>
	<datestamp>1243504440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had it for 25 years now, used it through high school to university to work and it still sits on my desk at work, its solar cells going strong, helping me at work from time to time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had it for 25 years now , used it through high school to university to work and it still sits on my desk at work , its solar cells going strong , helping me at work from time to time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had it for 25 years now, used it through high school to university to work and it still sits on my desk at work, its solar cells going strong, helping me at work from time to time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132799</id>
	<title>Classic Late Stone Age Artifact</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243517700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slightly tattered but still working Sinclair ZX80 from 1981. No tapes with programs for it and I can't remember how to program it any more - but it still works!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slightly tattered but still working Sinclair ZX80 from 1981 .
No tapes with programs for it and I ca n't remember how to program it any more - but it still works !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slightly tattered but still working Sinclair ZX80 from 1981.
No tapes with programs for it and I can't remember how to program it any more - but it still works!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129803</id>
	<title>ASR-33 Teletype</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243503600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>110 baud.  I had it logged into an AT&amp;T 3B2-600  Unix system 20 years ago.  The teletype's modem is a whole lot bigger - it fills the whole stand.  PCs are little play-pretend toy computers.  You guys bragging about your Tandys and Commodores are Johhny-come-latelys.  There are still a lot of teletypes around.  \DON'T \FORGET TO \ESCAPE \YOUR \C\A\P\S!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>110 baud .
I had it logged into an AT&amp;T 3B2-600 Unix system 20 years ago .
The teletype 's modem is a whole lot bigger - it fills the whole stand .
PCs are little play-pretend toy computers .
You guys bragging about your Tandys and Commodores are Johhny-come-latelys .
There are still a lot of teletypes around .
\ DO N'T \ FORGET TO \ ESCAPE \ YOUR \ C \ A \ P \ S !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>110 baud.
I had it logged into an AT&amp;T 3B2-600  Unix system 20 years ago.
The teletype's modem is a whole lot bigger - it fills the whole stand.
PCs are little play-pretend toy computers.
You guys bragging about your Tandys and Commodores are Johhny-come-latelys.
There are still a lot of teletypes around.
\DON'T \FORGET TO \ESCAPE \YOUR \C\A\P\S!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129533</id>
	<title>Re:Back then</title>
	<author>WillyWanker</author>
	<datestamp>1243502520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm... same thing with my 8800GTS from 2 years ago. Apparently their definition of "lifetime" is "less than 2 years"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm... same thing with my 8800GTS from 2 years ago .
Apparently their definition of " lifetime " is " less than 2 years "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm... same thing with my 8800GTS from 2 years ago.
Apparently their definition of "lifetime" is "less than 2 years"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128097</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128231</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>JoeRandomHacker</author>
	<datestamp>1243541760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Weep away, but you might be able to console yourself with one of these: <a href="http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/cus101usenon.html" title="yahoo.net" rel="nofollow">http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/cus101usenon.html</a> [yahoo.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Weep away , but you might be able to console yourself with one of these : http : //pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/cus101usenon.html [ yahoo.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Weep away, but you might be able to console yourself with one of these: http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/cus101usenon.html [yahoo.net]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134715</id>
	<title>1984 component</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243531920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm using a power cable from 1984.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm using a power cable from 1984 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm using a power cable from 1984.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129451</id>
	<title>I have a workstation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243502280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On which I can run WorldWideWeb.</p><p>That's *the* <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldWideWeb" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">WorldWideWeb</a> [wikipedia.org].</p><p>A NeXT workstation is not as old as that modem is, but it is still a pretty cool piece of equipment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On which I can run WorldWideWeb.That 's * the * WorldWideWeb [ wikipedia.org ] .A NeXT workstation is not as old as that modem is , but it is still a pretty cool piece of equipment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On which I can run WorldWideWeb.That's *the* WorldWideWeb [wikipedia.org].A NeXT workstation is not as old as that modem is, but it is still a pretty cool piece of equipment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129719</id>
	<title>Re:Old</title>
	<author>Hillgiant</author>
	<datestamp>1243503180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it run netBSD?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run netBSD ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run netBSD?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127911</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127627</id>
	<title>Ancient Laptop!</title>
	<author>omnichad</author>
	<datestamp>1243540080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Tandy Model 100 laptop.  It has a 4 line LCD screen, 3k of memory, and it runs 20 hours on 4 AA batteries.

I also have an old Macintosh with a DOS compatibility card.  It has both Mac OS7 and Windows 3.1</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Tandy Model 100 laptop .
It has a 4 line LCD screen , 3k of memory , and it runs 20 hours on 4 AA batteries .
I also have an old Macintosh with a DOS compatibility card .
It has both Mac OS7 and Windows 3.1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Tandy Model 100 laptop.
It has a 4 line LCD screen, 3k of memory, and it runs 20 hours on 4 AA batteries.
I also have an old Macintosh with a DOS compatibility card.
It has both Mac OS7 and Windows 3.1</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128155</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>OwnedByTwoCats</author>
	<datestamp>1243541520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple<nobr> <wbr></nobr>//e with 4-digit serial number, purchased February 1983, still in my attic.  I haven't fired it up in years, and I might, this weekend.  Mac Plus from 1986.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple //e with 4-digit serial number , purchased February 1983 , still in my attic .
I have n't fired it up in years , and I might , this weekend .
Mac Plus from 1986 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple //e with 4-digit serial number, purchased February 1983, still in my attic.
I haven't fired it up in years, and I might, this weekend.
Mac Plus from 1986.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131481</id>
	<title>Re:"Would you like to play a game?"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243510980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>where is it you live again?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>where is it you live again ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>where is it you live again?
:)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128009</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129949</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>Sponge Bath</author>
	<datestamp>1243504320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an abacus that's really old.<br>Unfortunately, I can't find the system disks to boot it up<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an abacus that 's really old.Unfortunately , I ca n't find the system disks to boot it up : - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an abacus that's really old.Unfortunately, I can't find the system disks to boot it up :-(</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128805</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest kit?</title>
	<author>lobiusmoop</author>
	<datestamp>1243543260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could always <a href="http://technabob.com/blog/2008/12/02/sinclair-zx81-turned-into-pc-retro-casemod/" title="technabob.com">use it as for a casemod</a> [technabob.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could always use it as for a casemod [ technabob.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could always use it as for a casemod [technabob.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127481</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128531</id>
	<title>I LOVE retrocomputing. And have a bunch of stuff!</title>
	<author>deesvito</author>
	<datestamp>1243542480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I have the following (it all works unless specified and I fire it up at least twice a year unless specified). And yes, my office looks like a train-wreck twice a year when I pull all this stuff out to keep it alive..</p><p>2 Commodore 64s (one works, the other is for parts), and a Commodore 64C<br>1 1541-II disk drive (works) and a bunch of software.<br>1 Commodore 128 (Has a couple of broken keys on the numeric pad), and a 1571 disk drive<br>1 Laser 128 (Apple II clone) with two drives. Works fine and I have a bunch of games and office type software to go with it.<br>1 Amiga 500, the internal and two external drives (one pulled from an A1000 so it's very big. Another is an off-brand, very small and cool 3 1/2)<br>1 Commodore Plus/4. Works great.<br>1 Commodore Vic-20. Works great<br>1 Commodore 16 which is unfortunately busted<br>I have a serial modem (14.4) I use to hook up the Amiga to a PC. I cheat because it's actually just doing telnet, but it's cool to get on the web with Lynx by using a kermit terminal program (my Amiga software is so old that it doesn't have a TCP stack). At some point I started getting some public domain amiga tcp stack off ftp but I needed a hard drive to hold it all so I stopped (even emulation is better than the real thing when you don't have enough hardware).</p><p>And of course I also keep a bunch of emulators on the modern machines so I can try things out and have interesting stuff to run (being able to run it on the actual hardware gives you a reason to want to pull it out). I love retrocomputing. In fact, that's how I plan on teaching programming to my kids. Yes, they'll use modern hardware too, but for programming I want them to see how there can be very little between you and the metal and you can still accomplish a bunch. All the layers of abstractions can actually make the basics (like why assembly is important and how you actually talk to hardware) a lot harder to understand. If all you have is a Commodore and you have to send commands to the drive to initialize the hardware, and you have to poke values in order to create a little assembly routine or change colors, it just makes it so much more *real*, and there's a lot less to explain of what's going on in the background. Since everything is an extrapolation of that pattern of thought anyway, I think it's better to start the understanding at that level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I have the following ( it all works unless specified and I fire it up at least twice a year unless specified ) .
And yes , my office looks like a train-wreck twice a year when I pull all this stuff out to keep it alive..2 Commodore 64s ( one works , the other is for parts ) , and a Commodore 64C1 1541-II disk drive ( works ) and a bunch of software.1 Commodore 128 ( Has a couple of broken keys on the numeric pad ) , and a 1571 disk drive1 Laser 128 ( Apple II clone ) with two drives .
Works fine and I have a bunch of games and office type software to go with it.1 Amiga 500 , the internal and two external drives ( one pulled from an A1000 so it 's very big .
Another is an off-brand , very small and cool 3 1/2 ) 1 Commodore Plus/4 .
Works great.1 Commodore Vic-20 .
Works great1 Commodore 16 which is unfortunately bustedI have a serial modem ( 14.4 ) I use to hook up the Amiga to a PC .
I cheat because it 's actually just doing telnet , but it 's cool to get on the web with Lynx by using a kermit terminal program ( my Amiga software is so old that it does n't have a TCP stack ) .
At some point I started getting some public domain amiga tcp stack off ftp but I needed a hard drive to hold it all so I stopped ( even emulation is better than the real thing when you do n't have enough hardware ) .And of course I also keep a bunch of emulators on the modern machines so I can try things out and have interesting stuff to run ( being able to run it on the actual hardware gives you a reason to want to pull it out ) .
I love retrocomputing .
In fact , that 's how I plan on teaching programming to my kids .
Yes , they 'll use modern hardware too , but for programming I want them to see how there can be very little between you and the metal and you can still accomplish a bunch .
All the layers of abstractions can actually make the basics ( like why assembly is important and how you actually talk to hardware ) a lot harder to understand .
If all you have is a Commodore and you have to send commands to the drive to initialize the hardware , and you have to poke values in order to create a little assembly routine or change colors , it just makes it so much more * real * , and there 's a lot less to explain of what 's going on in the background .
Since everything is an extrapolation of that pattern of thought anyway , I think it 's better to start the understanding at that level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I have the following (it all works unless specified and I fire it up at least twice a year unless specified).
And yes, my office looks like a train-wreck twice a year when I pull all this stuff out to keep it alive..2 Commodore 64s (one works, the other is for parts), and a Commodore 64C1 1541-II disk drive (works) and a bunch of software.1 Commodore 128 (Has a couple of broken keys on the numeric pad), and a 1571 disk drive1 Laser 128 (Apple II clone) with two drives.
Works fine and I have a bunch of games and office type software to go with it.1 Amiga 500, the internal and two external drives (one pulled from an A1000 so it's very big.
Another is an off-brand, very small and cool 3 1/2)1 Commodore Plus/4.
Works great.1 Commodore Vic-20.
Works great1 Commodore 16 which is unfortunately bustedI have a serial modem (14.4) I use to hook up the Amiga to a PC.
I cheat because it's actually just doing telnet, but it's cool to get on the web with Lynx by using a kermit terminal program (my Amiga software is so old that it doesn't have a TCP stack).
At some point I started getting some public domain amiga tcp stack off ftp but I needed a hard drive to hold it all so I stopped (even emulation is better than the real thing when you don't have enough hardware).And of course I also keep a bunch of emulators on the modern machines so I can try things out and have interesting stuff to run (being able to run it on the actual hardware gives you a reason to want to pull it out).
I love retrocomputing.
In fact, that's how I plan on teaching programming to my kids.
Yes, they'll use modern hardware too, but for programming I want them to see how there can be very little between you and the metal and you can still accomplish a bunch.
All the layers of abstractions can actually make the basics (like why assembly is important and how you actually talk to hardware) a lot harder to understand.
If all you have is a Commodore and you have to send commands to the drive to initialize the hardware, and you have to poke values in order to create a little assembly routine or change colors, it just makes it so much more *real*, and there's a lot less to explain of what's going on in the background.
Since everything is an extrapolation of that pattern of thought anyway, I think it's better to start the understanding at that level.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132041</id>
	<title>Re:TI-99/4A</title>
	<author>Grishnakh</author>
	<datestamp>1243513800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had one of those as a kid.  It was pioneering in many ways, but it also had a very annoying design flaw where it overheated if left on for more than an hour or two, and would lock up.  I always hated that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had one of those as a kid .
It was pioneering in many ways , but it also had a very annoying design flaw where it overheated if left on for more than an hour or two , and would lock up .
I always hated that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had one of those as a kid.
It was pioneering in many ways, but it also had a very annoying design flaw where it overheated if left on for more than an hour or two, and would lock up.
I always hated that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127475</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128401</id>
	<title>I got this...</title>
	<author>gEvil (beta)</author>
	<datestamp>1243542180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I got this abacus here that's at least a couple hundred years old. Amazingly, it still calculates just as well as it did when it was first made....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got this abacus here that 's at least a couple hundred years old .
Amazingly , it still calculates just as well as it did when it was first made... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got this abacus here that's at least a couple hundred years old.
Amazingly, it still calculates just as well as it did when it was first made....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128333</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>bedonnant</author>
	<datestamp>1243542000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>i actually retrieved my great-grand-father's work hammer (he was a smith). 1876 sounds about right for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i actually retrieved my great-grand-father 's work hammer ( he was a smith ) .
1876 sounds about right for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i actually retrieved my great-grand-father's work hammer (he was a smith).
1876 sounds about right for it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134235</id>
	<title>A relic that will not be missed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243527300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was around during the time of 300 baud modems.  Let me explain just how slow they were....</p><p>300 baud = 300 bps (yes, baud sometimes != bps but in this case it does)<br>300 bps = 30 bytes/second.  10 bits per byte (1 start bit + 8 data bits + 1 stop bit)<br>Average sized song from iTunes is about 5MB<br>5MB = 5,242,880 bytes</p><p>Do the math and it works out to about 2 days to transfer one average sized song from iTunes.  I think I'll stick with today's technology thank you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was around during the time of 300 baud modems .
Let me explain just how slow they were....300 baud = 300 bps ( yes , baud sometimes ! = bps but in this case it does ) 300 bps = 30 bytes/second .
10 bits per byte ( 1 start bit + 8 data bits + 1 stop bit ) Average sized song from iTunes is about 5MB5MB = 5,242,880 bytesDo the math and it works out to about 2 days to transfer one average sized song from iTunes .
I think I 'll stick with today 's technology thank you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was around during the time of 300 baud modems.
Let me explain just how slow they were....300 baud = 300 bps (yes, baud sometimes != bps but in this case it does)300 bps = 30 bytes/second.
10 bits per byte (1 start bit + 8 data bits + 1 stop bit)Average sized song from iTunes is about 5MB5MB = 5,242,880 bytesDo the math and it works out to about 2 days to transfer one average sized song from iTunes.
I think I'll stick with today's technology thank you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136521</id>
	<title>Playing Fair</title>
	<author>EmagGeek</author>
	<datestamp>1243596300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, to play the game fairly, the oldest piece of equipment that I still own today, and that still works, is a Kenwood TS-930 HF Transceiver. It was built in the 80's some time, but I am not sure exactly when. I have made MAJOR repairs to it over the years since they were so crappily made.</p><p>The oldest computer I have that still works is probably my Athlon 2600+ based machine that I use with Ubuntu Studio to do recording.</p><p>I have owned computers as far back as the TRS-80 Model I, and I still use an HP48GX calculator that I got about 10 years ago. I hope and pray it will never break.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , to play the game fairly , the oldest piece of equipment that I still own today , and that still works , is a Kenwood TS-930 HF Transceiver .
It was built in the 80 's some time , but I am not sure exactly when .
I have made MAJOR repairs to it over the years since they were so crappily made.The oldest computer I have that still works is probably my Athlon 2600 + based machine that I use with Ubuntu Studio to do recording.I have owned computers as far back as the TRS-80 Model I , and I still use an HP48GX calculator that I got about 10 years ago .
I hope and pray it will never break .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, to play the game fairly, the oldest piece of equipment that I still own today, and that still works, is a Kenwood TS-930 HF Transceiver.
It was built in the 80's some time, but I am not sure exactly when.
I have made MAJOR repairs to it over the years since they were so crappily made.The oldest computer I have that still works is probably my Athlon 2600+ based machine that I use with Ubuntu Studio to do recording.I have owned computers as far back as the TRS-80 Model I, and I still use an HP48GX calculator that I got about 10 years ago.
I hope and pray it will never break.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128171</id>
	<title>Young whipper snappers.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243541580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I using my new fangled IMSAI8080 and my father is using his old PDP11.  After talking to you young-uns I'm playing Global Thermonuclear War with the Whopper....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I using my new fangled IMSAI8080 and my father is using his old PDP11 .
After talking to you young-uns I 'm playing Global Thermonuclear War with the Whopper... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I using my new fangled IMSAI8080 and my father is using his old PDP11.
After talking to you young-uns I'm playing Global Thermonuclear War with the Whopper....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128319</id>
	<title>Where's the oscillator on this thing?</title>
	<author>Bohnanza</author>
	<datestamp>1243541940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"the original serial adapter wasn't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" the original serial adapter was n't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the original serial adapter wasn't working because the oscillator depends on the serial voltage"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28135715</id>
	<title>DEC PDP 11/23, several TRS-80 model I's and a KS</title>
	<author>strat</author>
	<datestamp>1243629240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My PDP 11/23 still runs, both RT-11 and Fuzzball and if I fire it up with the Fujitsu Eagle with 150 pounds worth of 474 MB hard disk glory, it heats the room in the winter.</p><p>I think a Fuzzball with a GPS time source would be anachronistic, in more ways than one.</p><p>I have 4 TRS-80 model I's (my first computer), but my heart is set on eventually interfacing modern storage to the DECSYSTEM-20 in my garage. Alas, it's only a KS, but they're hard to find.</p><p>I haven't lit up the TI 99/4A in quite a while, and I really should put the boards into the 4 microVAX chassis I have waiting to be assembled.</p><p>Emulators just aren't the same.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My PDP 11/23 still runs , both RT-11 and Fuzzball and if I fire it up with the Fujitsu Eagle with 150 pounds worth of 474 MB hard disk glory , it heats the room in the winter.I think a Fuzzball with a GPS time source would be anachronistic , in more ways than one.I have 4 TRS-80 model I 's ( my first computer ) , but my heart is set on eventually interfacing modern storage to the DECSYSTEM-20 in my garage .
Alas , it 's only a KS , but they 're hard to find.I have n't lit up the TI 99/4A in quite a while , and I really should put the boards into the 4 microVAX chassis I have waiting to be assembled.Emulators just are n't the same .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>My PDP 11/23 still runs, both RT-11 and Fuzzball and if I fire it up with the Fujitsu Eagle with 150 pounds worth of 474 MB hard disk glory, it heats the room in the winter.I think a Fuzzball with a GPS time source would be anachronistic, in more ways than one.I have 4 TRS-80 model I's (my first computer), but my heart is set on eventually interfacing modern storage to the DECSYSTEM-20 in my garage.
Alas, it's only a KS, but they're hard to find.I haven't lit up the TI 99/4A in quite a while, and I really should put the boards into the 4 microVAX chassis I have waiting to be assembled.Emulators just aren't the same.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128779</id>
	<title>Re:Back then</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1243543200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Couldn't you get your credit card company involved and/or the BBB?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't you get your credit card company involved and/or the BBB ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't you get your credit card company involved and/or the BBB?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128097</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128301</id>
	<title>RCA 6N7</title>
	<author>tubegeek</author>
	<datestamp>1243541880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got a metal-envelope RCA 6N7 tube (dual triode with a common cathode) in my stereo system's power amplifier that dates back to the pre-WWII area. And some of the other parts in that amp are of the same vintage, including the power transformer and a few resistors.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a metal-envelope RCA 6N7 tube ( dual triode with a common cathode ) in my stereo system 's power amplifier that dates back to the pre-WWII area .
And some of the other parts in that amp are of the same vintage , including the power transformer and a few resistors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a metal-envelope RCA 6N7 tube (dual triode with a common cathode) in my stereo system's power amplifier that dates back to the pre-WWII area.
And some of the other parts in that amp are of the same vintage, including the power transformer and a few resistors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129411</id>
	<title>got an 1924 Philco radio I just restored</title>
	<author>swschrad</author>
	<datestamp>1243502160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>still working sporadically on a 1920s Kellogg oak wall phone, which still needs a network.  got some working 00A, 01A, and D5A tubes, too.</p><p>no really fusty computer hardware left, except a core board from an old posting/billing workstation by NCR from about 1964.  2K, no expansion possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>still working sporadically on a 1920s Kellogg oak wall phone , which still needs a network .
got some working 00A , 01A , and D5A tubes , too.no really fusty computer hardware left , except a core board from an old posting/billing workstation by NCR from about 1964 .
2K , no expansion possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>still working sporadically on a 1920s Kellogg oak wall phone, which still needs a network.
got some working 00A, 01A, and D5A tubes, too.no really fusty computer hardware left, except a core board from an old posting/billing workstation by NCR from about 1964.
2K, no expansion possible.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134107</id>
	<title>Oh geez, where to begin?</title>
	<author>rnturn</author>
	<datestamp>1243526520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a system down in the basement that is running a few old SCSI drives that date back to the early '90s. (Cannibalized from StorageWorks bricks.) The darned things have been running continuously for well over a decade.

</p><p>The keyboard that I'm using to type this was made in March 1993. The KVM in the basement has one made in 10/92. (Yes, they're both Modem Ms.) I have an old ALR/386 with an ATA VGAWonder graphics card and the original NEC Multisync monitor that I bought back in the late '80s that I use (very occasionally) for an ancient DOS game. The oldest modem I have that I know still works is a Viva 2400 baud. I guess I could use it in case of an emergency though I have other, much faster modems I'd probably use if the need ever arose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a system down in the basement that is running a few old SCSI drives that date back to the early '90s .
( Cannibalized from StorageWorks bricks .
) The darned things have been running continuously for well over a decade .
The keyboard that I 'm using to type this was made in March 1993 .
The KVM in the basement has one made in 10/92 .
( Yes , they 're both Modem Ms. ) I have an old ALR/386 with an ATA VGAWonder graphics card and the original NEC Multisync monitor that I bought back in the late '80s that I use ( very occasionally ) for an ancient DOS game .
The oldest modem I have that I know still works is a Viva 2400 baud .
I guess I could use it in case of an emergency though I have other , much faster modems I 'd probably use if the need ever arose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a system down in the basement that is running a few old SCSI drives that date back to the early '90s.
(Cannibalized from StorageWorks bricks.
) The darned things have been running continuously for well over a decade.
The keyboard that I'm using to type this was made in March 1993.
The KVM in the basement has one made in 10/92.
(Yes, they're both Modem Ms.) I have an old ALR/386 with an ATA VGAWonder graphics card and the original NEC Multisync monitor that I bought back in the late '80s that I use (very occasionally) for an ancient DOS game.
The oldest modem I have that I know still works is a Viva 2400 baud.
I guess I could use it in case of an emergency though I have other, much faster modems I'd probably use if the need ever arose.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128761</id>
	<title>I still use...</title>
	<author>Chees0rz</author>
	<datestamp>1243543140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your mom.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your mom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your mom.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128907</id>
	<title>My NEC 3x Multi-Spin</title>
	<author>mandark1967</author>
	<datestamp>1243543620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am still using my NEC 3x Multi-Spin External (Parallel to SCSI) CDROM as a CD Player, which you can see at the link below.

<p>
<a href="http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/trends/hero\_1\_3.jpg" title="sixmoons.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/trends/hero\_1\_3.jpg</a> [sixmoons.com]
</p><p>
Sixmoons did an audio review using it and here's an excerpt:

"...Other than not having a remote control, this C$50 (shipping included) eBay item actually made a very competent top-loading CD player, probably the best in that price category. What I heard was perhaps a little direct and blatant -- not enough suavity and grace -- but it didn't rob me of music enjoyment. Vocals were arguably a little harsh and spicy but pianos were strikingly forceful, especially when I split up the output signals from the headphone jack with a Y-adapter and fed one pair of headphone-to-RCA cables to the paired Quest QS8II powered subwoofers. You'd probably notice from the photograph that the listening room was actually more of a TV room and therefore far from ideal. The speakers were spaced 10 feet apart, with a 46" DLP back-projection TV and two almost equally big cabinets in between. Yet, the TA-10 and the Quest had enough music to fill up the entire gap in the middle, voiding the void, projecting a soundstage right through and beyond the three bulky eye-soars and mental blocks as if they did not exist. When Alexandre Tharaud's inspired reading

of Ravel's Mirrors [Harmonia Mundi HMC 901811.12] was played, the Steinway was there, literally 6 feet behind the TV.


What about the pungency in the tone? Yes, the NEC is designed to read computer data at 3 x speed and the Quest is built for home theater. The sound they produce might be by audiophile standard a little too fast, too grainy and could be interpreted as stressed."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am still using my NEC 3x Multi-Spin External ( Parallel to SCSI ) CDROM as a CD Player , which you can see at the link below .
http : //www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/trends/hero \ _1 \ _3.jpg [ sixmoons.com ] Sixmoons did an audio review using it and here 's an excerpt : " ...Other than not having a remote control , this C $ 50 ( shipping included ) eBay item actually made a very competent top-loading CD player , probably the best in that price category .
What I heard was perhaps a little direct and blatant -- not enough suavity and grace -- but it did n't rob me of music enjoyment .
Vocals were arguably a little harsh and spicy but pianos were strikingly forceful , especially when I split up the output signals from the headphone jack with a Y-adapter and fed one pair of headphone-to-RCA cables to the paired Quest QS8II powered subwoofers .
You 'd probably notice from the photograph that the listening room was actually more of a TV room and therefore far from ideal .
The speakers were spaced 10 feet apart , with a 46 " DLP back-projection TV and two almost equally big cabinets in between .
Yet , the TA-10 and the Quest had enough music to fill up the entire gap in the middle , voiding the void , projecting a soundstage right through and beyond the three bulky eye-soars and mental blocks as if they did not exist .
When Alexandre Tharaud 's inspired reading of Ravel 's Mirrors [ Harmonia Mundi HMC 901811.12 ] was played , the Steinway was there , literally 6 feet behind the TV .
What about the pungency in the tone ?
Yes , the NEC is designed to read computer data at 3 x speed and the Quest is built for home theater .
The sound they produce might be by audiophile standard a little too fast , too grainy and could be interpreted as stressed .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am still using my NEC 3x Multi-Spin External (Parallel to SCSI) CDROM as a CD Player, which you can see at the link below.
http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/trends/hero\_1\_3.jpg [sixmoons.com]

Sixmoons did an audio review using it and here's an excerpt:

"...Other than not having a remote control, this C$50 (shipping included) eBay item actually made a very competent top-loading CD player, probably the best in that price category.
What I heard was perhaps a little direct and blatant -- not enough suavity and grace -- but it didn't rob me of music enjoyment.
Vocals were arguably a little harsh and spicy but pianos were strikingly forceful, especially when I split up the output signals from the headphone jack with a Y-adapter and fed one pair of headphone-to-RCA cables to the paired Quest QS8II powered subwoofers.
You'd probably notice from the photograph that the listening room was actually more of a TV room and therefore far from ideal.
The speakers were spaced 10 feet apart, with a 46" DLP back-projection TV and two almost equally big cabinets in between.
Yet, the TA-10 and the Quest had enough music to fill up the entire gap in the middle, voiding the void, projecting a soundstage right through and beyond the three bulky eye-soars and mental blocks as if they did not exist.
When Alexandre Tharaud's inspired reading

of Ravel's Mirrors [Harmonia Mundi HMC 901811.12] was played, the Steinway was there, literally 6 feet behind the TV.
What about the pungency in the tone?
Yes, the NEC is designed to read computer data at 3 x speed and the Quest is built for home theater.
The sound they produce might be by audiophile standard a little too fast, too grainy and could be interpreted as stressed.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127487</id>
	<title>PowerMac 5400</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room, with a video in card. That came out in 1996, so it's about 13 years old. Until recently, he'd use it for watching VHS movies &amp; playing his XBox.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room , with a video in card .
That came out in 1996 , so it 's about 13 years old .
Until recently , he 'd use it for watching VHS movies &amp; playing his XBox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room, with a video in card.
That came out in 1996, so it's about 13 years old.
Until recently, he'd use it for watching VHS movies &amp; playing his XBox.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127683</id>
	<title>50 year old loudspeakers</title>
	<author>Turzyx</author>
	<datestamp>1243540200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My grandfather still swears by his Quad ESL-57 electrostatics, from the late 50s.
<br> <br>
About 5 or 6 years ago the power supply units were rebuilt and the panels were cleared of crap that had settled on them over the years, and they sound better than ever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My grandfather still swears by his Quad ESL-57 electrostatics , from the late 50s .
About 5 or 6 years ago the power supply units were rebuilt and the panels were cleared of crap that had settled on them over the years , and they sound better than ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My grandfather still swears by his Quad ESL-57 electrostatics, from the late 50s.
About 5 or 6 years ago the power supply units were rebuilt and the panels were cleared of crap that had settled on them over the years, and they sound better than ever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128983</id>
	<title>Wankers</title>
	<author>nixdroid</author>
	<datestamp>1243543860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Sparc2 (circa 1990), it still works and I can't bring myself to throw it away.

Better still, I connect to it with a DEC VT100.  If you don't know what that is, check to see what your favorite text-only program emulates.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Sparc2 ( circa 1990 ) , it still works and I ca n't bring myself to throw it away .
Better still , I connect to it with a DEC VT100 .
If you do n't know what that is , check to see what your favorite text-only program emulates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Sparc2 (circa 1990), it still works and I can't bring myself to throw it away.
Better still, I connect to it with a DEC VT100.
If you don't know what that is, check to see what your favorite text-only program emulates.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129059</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>JBdH</author>
	<datestamp>1243544160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've an 1984 Apple<nobr> <wbr></nobr>//c in my basement. I fired it up last month. Needless to say it was instant on ( without ProDos, though).

On a sidenote : Did you know there still is a reference to ProDos compatibility in the netatalk (AppleTalk protocol for Unix) documentation? A true blast from the past.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've an 1984 Apple //c in my basement .
I fired it up last month .
Needless to say it was instant on ( without ProDos , though ) .
On a sidenote : Did you know there still is a reference to ProDos compatibility in the netatalk ( AppleTalk protocol for Unix ) documentation ?
A true blast from the past .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've an 1984 Apple //c in my basement.
I fired it up last month.
Needless to say it was instant on ( without ProDos, though).
On a sidenote : Did you know there still is a reference to ProDos compatibility in the netatalk (AppleTalk protocol for Unix) documentation?
A true blast from the past.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129083</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest kit?</title>
	<author>n4djs</author>
	<datestamp>1243544280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>replace the electrolytic capacitors, it is likely to work then....</htmltext>
<tokenext>replace the electrolytic capacitors , it is likely to work then... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>replace the electrolytic capacitors, it is likely to work then....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127481</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129991</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>z3razerviper</author>
	<datestamp>1243504440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unicomp purchaced IBM's old keyboard business. You can still get brand new "classic" buckling spring IBM keyboards from them. I just ordered the eudorapro hope to get it soon.

www.pckeyboard.com</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unicomp purchaced IBM 's old keyboard business .
You can still get brand new " classic " buckling spring IBM keyboards from them .
I just ordered the eudorapro hope to get it soon .
www.pckeyboard.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unicomp purchaced IBM's old keyboard business.
You can still get brand new "classic" buckling spring IBM keyboards from them.
I just ordered the eudorapro hope to get it soon.
www.pckeyboard.com</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132529</id>
	<title>Oldest from 1959...</title>
	<author>Kazoo the Clown</author>
	<datestamp>1243516380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My oldest piece of gear used to be an LGP-30 vacuum tube computer from about 1959.   I eventually gave it away because I didn't have the room for it, and never actually got it completely working (they were notorious for scratches on the drum by the heads if you turned it on too soon after you turned it off).   Now, my oldest is a 1976 IMSAI w/floppy that I soldered together myself (and is still working, though finicky), and an IBM 5110 BASIC/APL.   Will eBay the IMSAI one of these days when I get around to it.  I also have several Atari 400s, 800s &amp; Amigas, and an old Mac or two.<br> <br>
I'd just about kill for an original IBM 2741 terminal w/APL keyboard though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My oldest piece of gear used to be an LGP-30 vacuum tube computer from about 1959 .
I eventually gave it away because I did n't have the room for it , and never actually got it completely working ( they were notorious for scratches on the drum by the heads if you turned it on too soon after you turned it off ) .
Now , my oldest is a 1976 IMSAI w/floppy that I soldered together myself ( and is still working , though finicky ) , and an IBM 5110 BASIC/APL .
Will eBay the IMSAI one of these days when I get around to it .
I also have several Atari 400s , 800s &amp; Amigas , and an old Mac or two .
I 'd just about kill for an original IBM 2741 terminal w/APL keyboard though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My oldest piece of gear used to be an LGP-30 vacuum tube computer from about 1959.
I eventually gave it away because I didn't have the room for it, and never actually got it completely working (they were notorious for scratches on the drum by the heads if you turned it on too soon after you turned it off).
Now, my oldest is a 1976 IMSAI w/floppy that I soldered together myself (and is still working, though finicky), and an IBM 5110 BASIC/APL.
Will eBay the IMSAI one of these days when I get around to it.
I also have several Atari 400s, 800s &amp; Amigas, and an old Mac or two.
I'd just about kill for an original IBM 2741 terminal w/APL keyboard though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129377</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>zip\_000</author>
	<datestamp>1243502040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got a TRS-80 Color Computer 2...about 25 years old...in the original box with all of the accompanying papers and the book.
<br>
<br>
It doesn't work though...or at least I couldn't get it to work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a TRS-80 Color Computer 2...about 25 years old...in the original box with all of the accompanying papers and the book .
It does n't work though...or at least I could n't get it to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a TRS-80 Color Computer 2...about 25 years old...in the original box with all of the accompanying papers and the book.
It doesn't work though...or at least I couldn't get it to work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129121</id>
	<title>Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243544340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't knock it, still faster that T-Mobile's edge network.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't knock it , still faster that T-Mobile 's edge network .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't knock it, still faster that T-Mobile's edge network.
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28135695</id>
	<title>Oldest gear</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243628880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Analog gear: I have an Ediphone from early 1900s, like 1907 I think.</p><p>Digital gear: a Kim-1 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIM-1" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIM-1</a> [wikipedia.org] from around 1977.</p><p>Both still work just fine.</p><p>I have old (1920s) radios, old cars (1929, 1967, etc.), a 1983 5 MB hard disk, a 1968 modem (never tried it)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Analog gear : I have an Ediphone from early 1900s , like 1907 I think.Digital gear : a Kim-1 http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIM-1 [ wikipedia.org ] from around 1977.Both still work just fine.I have old ( 1920s ) radios , old cars ( 1929 , 1967 , etc .
) , a 1983 5 MB hard disk , a 1968 modem ( never tried it ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Analog gear: I have an Ediphone from early 1900s, like 1907 I think.Digital gear: a Kim-1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIM-1 [wikipedia.org] from around 1977.Both still work just fine.I have old (1920s) radios, old cars (1929, 1967, etc.
), a 1983 5 MB hard disk, a 1968 modem (never tried it) ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130803</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>owlstead</author>
	<datestamp>1243507800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mine too, but I know some people with computers that use brand new atoms. They use a terrible amount of power per atom though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mine too , but I know some people with computers that use brand new atoms .
They use a terrible amount of power per atom though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mine too, but I know some people with computers that use brand new atoms.
They use a terrible amount of power per atom though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127607</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130237</id>
	<title>Digital Multia/UDB and Sharp PC-1251</title>
	<author>lalleglad</author>
	<datestamp>1243505340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>The Sharp is actually a Pocket Calculator, though it has a 24KB ROM with BASIC in it, and a qwerty keyboard with little calculator buttons. It was fun to learn on, but the one line LCD display got a little boring in the end.<br><br>Otherwise, I am very proud of my still working mail-server, which is a Digital Multia with an AXP21066 CPU, which is the smallest 64bit CPU ever made, fully loaded RAM (128MB) and a (now rather small, but still fine and working) SCSI disk:<br><br>$ cat<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/proc/cpuinfo<br>cpu&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: Alpha<br>cpu model&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: LCA4<br>cpu variation&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: -4294967301<br>cpu revision&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 0<br>cpu serial number&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: Linux\_is\_Great!<br>system type&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: Noname<br>system variation&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 0<br>system revision&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 0<br>system serial number&nbsp; &nbsp; : MILO-2.2-17<br>cycle frequency [Hz]&nbsp; &nbsp; : 166629900<br>timer frequency [Hz]&nbsp; &nbsp; : 1024.00<br>page size [bytes]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 8192<br>phys. address bits&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 34<br>max. addr. space #&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 63<br>BogoMIPS&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 323.24<br>kernel unaligned acc&nbsp; &nbsp; : 0 (pc=0,va=0)<br>user unaligned acc&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; : 0 (pc=0,va=0)<br>platform string&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: N/A<br>cpus detected&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;: 0<br>$ cat<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/proc/meminfo<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; total:&nbsp; &nbsp; used:&nbsp; &nbsp; free:&nbsp; shared: buffers:&nbsp; cached:<br>Mem:&nbsp; 129015808 126205952&nbsp; 2809856&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0&nbsp; 2613248 13729792<br>Swap: 269467648&nbsp; 7520256 261947392<br>MemTotal:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;125992 kB<br>MemFree:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2744 kB<br>MemShared:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 kB<br>Buffers:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2552 kB<br>Cached:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12344 kB<br>SwapCached:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1064 kB<br>Active:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;4744 kB<br>Inactive:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11240 kB<br>HighTotal:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 kB<br>HighFree:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 kB<br>LowTotal:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;125992 kB<br>LowFree:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2744 kB<br>SwapTotal:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 263152 kB<br>SwapFree:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;255808 kB<br>$ df<br>Filesystem&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;1k-blocks&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Used Available Use\% Mounted on<br>/dev/sda3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;17213849&nbsp; 10246172&nbsp; &nbsp;6085553&nbsp; 63\%<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/<br>/dev/sda1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 52088&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;564&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;51524&nbsp; &nbsp;2\%<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/dos<br><br>I believe the date on the motherboard is 1994 and the BIOS says 1995, with an option of loading Windows NT<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)<br>I don't really remember, and I don't like to boot it, because the mobo-battery (for the BIOS) is not good anymore and it is only barely that I can remember to boot it.<br><br>It is however, the most stable system I have ever had, and a few Intel/AMD based PC systems have come and gone in the mean time.<br><br>As far as I remember, Slashdot originally ran on a similar platform?<br><br>I, and quite a few friends and colleagues cried a few tears when Compaq bought Digital, and a few more when AXP was discontinued!<br>Not that I am a fan of VMS, but it was sort of fun to play with, in its own archaic way. Sort of like the fun of trying to sleep next to a hungry tiger<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)<br></tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Sharp is actually a Pocket Calculator , though it has a 24KB ROM with BASIC in it , and a qwerty keyboard with little calculator buttons .
It was fun to learn on , but the one line LCD display got a little boring in the end.Otherwise , I am very proud of my still working mail-server , which is a Digital Multia with an AXP21066 CPU , which is the smallest 64bit CPU ever made , fully loaded RAM ( 128MB ) and a ( now rather small , but still fine and working ) SCSI disk : $ cat /proc/cpuinfocpu                       : Alphacpu model                 : LCA4cpu variation             : -4294967301cpu revision             : 0cpu serial number         : Linux \ _is \ _Great ! system type               : Nonamesystem variation         : 0system revision           : 0system serial number     : MILO-2.2-17cycle frequency [ Hz ]     : 166629900timer frequency [ Hz ]     : 1024.00page size [ bytes ]         : 8192phys .
address bits       : 34max .
addr. space #       : 63BogoMIPS                 : 323.24kernel unaligned acc     : 0 ( pc = 0,va = 0 ) user unaligned acc       : 0 ( pc = 0,va = 0 ) platform string           : N/Acpus detected             : 0 $ cat /proc/meminfo         total :     used :     free :   shared : buffers :   cached : Mem :   129015808 126205952   2809856         0   2613248 13729792Swap : 269467648   7520256 261947392MemTotal :         125992 kBMemFree :           2744 kBMemShared :             0 kBBuffers :           2552 kBCached :           12344 kBSwapCached :         1064 kBActive :             4744 kBInactive :         11240 kBHighTotal :             0 kBHighFree :             0 kBLowTotal :         125992 kBLowFree :           2744 kBSwapTotal :       263152 kBSwapFree :         255808 kB $ dfFilesystem             1k-blocks       Used Available Use \ % Mounted on/dev/sda3               17213849   10246172     6085553   63 \ % //dev/sda1                 52088         564       51524     2 \ % /dosI believe the date on the motherboard is 1994 and the BIOS says 1995 , with an option of loading Windows NT : - ) I do n't really remember , and I do n't like to boot it , because the mobo-battery ( for the BIOS ) is not good anymore and it is only barely that I can remember to boot it.It is however , the most stable system I have ever had , and a few Intel/AMD based PC systems have come and gone in the mean time.As far as I remember , Slashdot originally ran on a similar platform ? I , and quite a few friends and colleagues cried a few tears when Compaq bought Digital , and a few more when AXP was discontinued ! Not that I am a fan of VMS , but it was sort of fun to play with , in its own archaic way .
Sort of like the fun of trying to sleep next to a hungry tiger ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Sharp is actually a Pocket Calculator, though it has a 24KB ROM with BASIC in it, and a qwerty keyboard with little calculator buttons.
It was fun to learn on, but the one line LCD display got a little boring in the end.Otherwise, I am very proud of my still working mail-server, which is a Digital Multia with an AXP21066 CPU, which is the smallest 64bit CPU ever made, fully loaded RAM (128MB) and a (now rather small, but still fine and working) SCSI disk:$ cat /proc/cpuinfocpu                     : Alphacpu model               : LCA4cpu variation           : -4294967301cpu revision            : 0cpu serial number       : Linux\_is\_Great!system type             : Nonamesystem variation        : 0system revision         : 0system serial number    : MILO-2.2-17cycle frequency [Hz]    : 166629900timer frequency [Hz]    : 1024.00page size [bytes]       : 8192phys.
address bits      : 34max.
addr. space #      : 63BogoMIPS                : 323.24kernel unaligned acc    : 0 (pc=0,va=0)user unaligned acc      : 0 (pc=0,va=0)platform string         : N/Acpus detected           : 0$ cat /proc/meminfo        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:Mem:  129015808 126205952  2809856        0  2613248 13729792Swap: 269467648  7520256 261947392MemTotal:       125992 kBMemFree:          2744 kBMemShared:           0 kBBuffers:          2552 kBCached:          12344 kBSwapCached:       1064 kBActive:           4744 kBInactive:        11240 kBHighTotal:           0 kBHighFree:            0 kBLowTotal:       125992 kBLowFree:          2744 kBSwapTotal:      263152 kBSwapFree:       255808 kB$ dfFilesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use\% Mounted on/dev/sda3             17213849  10246172   6085553  63\% //dev/sda1                52088       564     51524   2\% /dosI believe the date on the motherboard is 1994 and the BIOS says 1995, with an option of loading Windows NT :-)I don't really remember, and I don't like to boot it, because the mobo-battery (for the BIOS) is not good anymore and it is only barely that I can remember to boot it.It is however, the most stable system I have ever had, and a few Intel/AMD based PC systems have come and gone in the mean time.As far as I remember, Slashdot originally ran on a similar platform?I, and quite a few friends and colleagues cried a few tears when Compaq bought Digital, and a few more when AXP was discontinued!Not that I am a fan of VMS, but it was sort of fun to play with, in its own archaic way.
Sort of like the fun of trying to sleep next to a hungry tiger ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127675</id>
	<title>First exposure</title>
	<author>delta98</author>
	<datestamp>1243540200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>to the digital world was in 1977 or so . An acoustic coupler where we had to listen for the tom\e and quickly set the phone in the cradle. I learned to plat tic-tac-toe with a western electric telex machine. It took for ever by todays standards but this kid was amazed. 300 baud? Yeah. Thats about right. Upper Perkiomen Jr. High. lol that brings back memories.</htmltext>
<tokenext>to the digital world was in 1977 or so .
An acoustic coupler where we had to listen for the tom \ e and quickly set the phone in the cradle .
I learned to plat tic-tac-toe with a western electric telex machine .
It took for ever by todays standards but this kid was amazed .
300 baud ?
Yeah. Thats about right .
Upper Perkiomen Jr. High. lol that brings back memories .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>to the digital world was in 1977 or so .
An acoustic coupler where we had to listen for the tom\e and quickly set the phone in the cradle.
I learned to plat tic-tac-toe with a western electric telex machine.
It took for ever by todays standards but this kid was amazed.
300 baud?
Yeah. Thats about right.
Upper Perkiomen Jr. High. lol that brings back memories.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128675</id>
	<title>Amiga 2000 to surf the web</title>
	<author>roskakori</author>
	<datestamp>1243542900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still have an Amiga 2000 standing around from 1989 with a 8 Mhz 68000 CPU and 7 MB RAM. Funny thing about it is that it can run the relatively modern AmigaOS 3.1, for which reasonably well working graphical web browsers exist. Occasionally I fire it for fun just to demonstrate that 80's hardware can show web pages in a semi decent way. Configure it to run on a 640x400 screen with 8 shades of grey and it still shows most of the modern web sites that have some sort of accessibility fall back. It can do tables and basic CSS, so in some cases the results are almost indistinguishable from what you see on a modern browser. Of course it is awfully slow and needs several seconds to render a medium sized PNG image.</p><p>

It's particular cool to show it too kids that think you need GHz's and GB's to surf the web.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have an Amiga 2000 standing around from 1989 with a 8 Mhz 68000 CPU and 7 MB RAM .
Funny thing about it is that it can run the relatively modern AmigaOS 3.1 , for which reasonably well working graphical web browsers exist .
Occasionally I fire it for fun just to demonstrate that 80 's hardware can show web pages in a semi decent way .
Configure it to run on a 640x400 screen with 8 shades of grey and it still shows most of the modern web sites that have some sort of accessibility fall back .
It can do tables and basic CSS , so in some cases the results are almost indistinguishable from what you see on a modern browser .
Of course it is awfully slow and needs several seconds to render a medium sized PNG image .
It 's particular cool to show it too kids that think you need GHz 's and GB 's to surf the web .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have an Amiga 2000 standing around from 1989 with a 8 Mhz 68000 CPU and 7 MB RAM.
Funny thing about it is that it can run the relatively modern AmigaOS 3.1, for which reasonably well working graphical web browsers exist.
Occasionally I fire it for fun just to demonstrate that 80's hardware can show web pages in a semi decent way.
Configure it to run on a 640x400 screen with 8 shades of grey and it still shows most of the modern web sites that have some sort of accessibility fall back.
It can do tables and basic CSS, so in some cases the results are almost indistinguishable from what you see on a modern browser.
Of course it is awfully slow and needs several seconds to render a medium sized PNG image.
It's particular cool to show it too kids that think you need GHz's and GB's to surf the web.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127911</id>
	<title>Old</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1243540920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?</p></div><p>There's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer. I figure it's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there ? There 's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer .
I figure it 's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?There's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer.
I figure it's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133493</id>
	<title>My HPLJ II still works</title>
	<author>walterbyrd</author>
	<datestamp>1243522020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I stopped using it, only recently. It jams too often. But, for a $25 cartridge, I was able to print for years. I could probably fix the jamming, but it's probably not worth it.</p><p>I once read that hp considered their HPLJ IIs and IIIs to be big mistakes, because they lasted too long.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I stopped using it , only recently .
It jams too often .
But , for a $ 25 cartridge , I was able to print for years .
I could probably fix the jamming , but it 's probably not worth it.I once read that hp considered their HPLJ IIs and IIIs to be big mistakes , because they lasted too long .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I stopped using it, only recently.
It jams too often.
But, for a $25 cartridge, I was able to print for years.
I could probably fix the jamming, but it's probably not worth it.I once read that hp considered their HPLJ IIs and IIIs to be big mistakes, because they lasted too long.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28142001</id>
	<title>Compaq Contura</title>
	<author>raedeon</author>
	<datestamp>1243627020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still use an old Compaq Contura Laptop(150MB HD 4MB RAM) from about early-mid 90s? It has Windows 3.1 and it works amazingly well still.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use an old Compaq Contura Laptop ( 150MB HD 4MB RAM ) from about early-mid 90s ?
It has Windows 3.1 and it works amazingly well still .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use an old Compaq Contura Laptop(150MB HD 4MB RAM) from about early-mid 90s?
It has Windows 3.1 and it works amazingly well still.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130887</id>
	<title>What to do with old stuff?</title>
	<author>E\_Block</author>
	<datestamp>1243508160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll piggy back on this topic to ask Slashdot what I should do with some old equipment that I can't hold on to anymore... I have an Osborne Portable 1, Commie 64, TRS-80 Model 100 (with acoustic coupler), and more.  I don't want to trash it, but it's not doing anyone any good sitting in storage.

Any ideas?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll piggy back on this topic to ask Slashdot what I should do with some old equipment that I ca n't hold on to anymore... I have an Osborne Portable 1 , Commie 64 , TRS-80 Model 100 ( with acoustic coupler ) , and more .
I do n't want to trash it , but it 's not doing anyone any good sitting in storage .
Any ideas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll piggy back on this topic to ask Slashdot what I should do with some old equipment that I can't hold on to anymore... I have an Osborne Portable 1, Commie 64, TRS-80 Model 100 (with acoustic coupler), and more.
I don't want to trash it, but it's not doing anyone any good sitting in storage.
Any ideas?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131737</id>
	<title>Is it wrong...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243512300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To have an operating computer that is almost as old &amp; heavy as you are?  What might I be referring to?  The Altos 8000 series... Manufactured in 1978 this bad boy is a workout in itself when you go to move it.  I learned BASIC &amp; COBOL on this thing when I was a kid.  I'll have to get the thing out of storage and play with it again.  It's been a handful of years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To have an operating computer that is almost as old &amp; heavy as you are ?
What might I be referring to ?
The Altos 8000 series... Manufactured in 1978 this bad boy is a workout in itself when you go to move it .
I learned BASIC &amp; COBOL on this thing when I was a kid .
I 'll have to get the thing out of storage and play with it again .
It 's been a handful of years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To have an operating computer that is almost as old &amp; heavy as you are?
What might I be referring to?
The Altos 8000 series... Manufactured in 1978 this bad boy is a workout in itself when you go to move it.
I learned BASIC &amp; COBOL on this thing when I was a kid.
I'll have to get the thing out of storage and play with it again.
It's been a handful of years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128633</id>
	<title>Electrons</title>
	<author>Unicorn Setu</author>
	<datestamp>1243542720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Every single one of the electrons in my Macbook has been around since the beginning of the universe.
Beat that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Every single one of the electrons in my Macbook has been around since the beginning of the universe .
Beat that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every single one of the electrons in my Macbook has been around since the beginning of the universe.
Beat that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128295</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>JeepFanatic</author>
	<datestamp>1243541880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have 4 of them so I'll be good if in the highly unlikely event that one dies.  The one I'm currently using on my main PC is about 18 years old.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have 4 of them so I 'll be good if in the highly unlikely event that one dies .
The one I 'm currently using on my main PC is about 18 years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have 4 of them so I'll be good if in the highly unlikely event that one dies.
The one I'm currently using on my main PC is about 18 years old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128803</id>
	<title>Undated, but yellowing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243543260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still have <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slide\_rule" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">slide rules</a> [wikipedia.org] I used in high school, which makes them some 35 or so years old.  I also still have my <a href="http://www.porticus.org/bell/belllabs\_kits\_cardiac.html" title="porticus.org" rel="nofollow">CARDIAC</a> [porticus.org] from the early 1970s.</p><p>They both still work perfectly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have slide rules [ wikipedia.org ] I used in high school , which makes them some 35 or so years old .
I also still have my CARDIAC [ porticus.org ] from the early 1970s.They both still work perfectly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have slide rules [wikipedia.org] I used in high school, which makes them some 35 or so years old.
I also still have my CARDIAC [porticus.org] from the early 1970s.They both still work perfectly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134939</id>
	<title>~29-year-old Heathkit H19 terminal</title>
	<author>drewish\_princess</author>
	<datestamp>1243533840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a Heathkit H19 dumb terminal on my desk that's hooked up to my MacMini via serial-to-USB converter.</p><p>I don't do a lot of "work" with it but I wrote a Ruby script for it to talk to iTunes via AppleScript and grab the album art then pass that through ImageMagick to bump the contrast then convert it to ASCII text using jp2a.</p><p>You can see some pictures: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewish/tags/h19/" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewish/tags/h19/</a> [flickr.com]<br>Or checkout the Ruby script: <a href="http://github.com/drewish/textFlow/tree/master" title="github.com" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/drewish/textFlow/tree/master</a> [github.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a Heathkit H19 dumb terminal on my desk that 's hooked up to my MacMini via serial-to-USB converter.I do n't do a lot of " work " with it but I wrote a Ruby script for it to talk to iTunes via AppleScript and grab the album art then pass that through ImageMagick to bump the contrast then convert it to ASCII text using jp2a.You can see some pictures : http : //www.flickr.com/photos/drewish/tags/h19/ [ flickr.com ] Or checkout the Ruby script : http : //github.com/drewish/textFlow/tree/master [ github.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a Heathkit H19 dumb terminal on my desk that's hooked up to my MacMini via serial-to-USB converter.I don't do a lot of "work" with it but I wrote a Ruby script for it to talk to iTunes via AppleScript and grab the album art then pass that through ImageMagick to bump the contrast then convert it to ASCII text using jp2a.You can see some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/drewish/tags/h19/ [flickr.com]Or checkout the Ruby script: http://github.com/drewish/textFlow/tree/master [github.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136013</id>
	<title>You want to know about my old hardware?</title>
	<author>pickle\_in\_being</author>
	<datestamp>1243589580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I happen to live next door to Stonehenge!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I happen to live next door to Stonehenge !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I happen to live next door to Stonehenge!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133707</id>
	<title>Ah, the good old days...</title>
	<author>GottliebPins</author>
	<datestamp>1243523640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember my first 300 baud modem. Back then 300 was screaming fast! You could actually see the letters appear on your screen! Having to call your friends and agree on what baud rate, what parity, how many data bits, how many stop bits, and reminding them to put their modem on "answer" and remind their family not to pick up the phone, ah, what fun. I remember calling into sites at work and getting horrible transfer rates, and being pissed that I had to get in my truck and drive 4 hours to the middle of bum hole Kentucky to install an upgrade because you couldn't connect by modem. Fun times. Back then "wireless" meant the modem you were calling was not on an actual phone line but connected to a radio receiver on one or more repeaters from an actual phone line. The lag time was incredible! Back then the internet was called CompuServe or a local BBS. Love those 80's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember my first 300 baud modem .
Back then 300 was screaming fast !
You could actually see the letters appear on your screen !
Having to call your friends and agree on what baud rate , what parity , how many data bits , how many stop bits , and reminding them to put their modem on " answer " and remind their family not to pick up the phone , ah , what fun .
I remember calling into sites at work and getting horrible transfer rates , and being pissed that I had to get in my truck and drive 4 hours to the middle of bum hole Kentucky to install an upgrade because you could n't connect by modem .
Fun times .
Back then " wireless " meant the modem you were calling was not on an actual phone line but connected to a radio receiver on one or more repeaters from an actual phone line .
The lag time was incredible !
Back then the internet was called CompuServe or a local BBS .
Love those 80 's : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember my first 300 baud modem.
Back then 300 was screaming fast!
You could actually see the letters appear on your screen!
Having to call your friends and agree on what baud rate, what parity, how many data bits, how many stop bits, and reminding them to put their modem on "answer" and remind their family not to pick up the phone, ah, what fun.
I remember calling into sites at work and getting horrible transfer rates, and being pissed that I had to get in my truck and drive 4 hours to the middle of bum hole Kentucky to install an upgrade because you couldn't connect by modem.
Fun times.
Back then "wireless" meant the modem you were calling was not on an actual phone line but connected to a radio receiver on one or more repeaters from an actual phone line.
The lag time was incredible!
Back then the internet was called CompuServe or a local BBS.
Love those 80's :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129351</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>makomk</author>
	<datestamp>1243501920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Heh. My parents rented the UK equivalent until not all that long ago, relatively speaking. The BT phone handsets were really built to last. (It had a plug - it wasn't one of the older wired-in ones, though I've seen those too.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Heh .
My parents rented the UK equivalent until not all that long ago , relatively speaking .
The BT phone handsets were really built to last .
( It had a plug - it was n't one of the older wired-in ones , though I 've seen those too .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heh.
My parents rented the UK equivalent until not all that long ago, relatively speaking.
The BT phone handsets were really built to last.
(It had a plug - it wasn't one of the older wired-in ones, though I've seen those too.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129221</id>
	<title>My house :P</title>
	<author>Overfiend1976</author>
	<datestamp>1243501500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was built in 1785<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P I know that's pretty low tech, but it's impressive considering how well this place has stood the test of time (in upstate New York with its endless blizzards), and now we've got modern half million to million dollar homes that are made with plywood and pressure treated boards and have problems from day one. Just more examples of how newer is so very often NOT better.

<a href="http://www.oldversion.com/" title="oldversion.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldversion.com/</a> [oldversion.com] For the win.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was built in 1785 : P I know that 's pretty low tech , but it 's impressive considering how well this place has stood the test of time ( in upstate New York with its endless blizzards ) , and now we 've got modern half million to million dollar homes that are made with plywood and pressure treated boards and have problems from day one .
Just more examples of how newer is so very often NOT better .
http : //www.oldversion.com/ [ oldversion.com ] For the win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was built in 1785 :P I know that's pretty low tech, but it's impressive considering how well this place has stood the test of time (in upstate New York with its endless blizzards), and now we've got modern half million to million dollar homes that are made with plywood and pressure treated boards and have problems from day one.
Just more examples of how newer is so very often NOT better.
http://www.oldversion.com/ [oldversion.com] For the win.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128493</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>schmiddy</author>
	<datestamp>1243542420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Heh, you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>The more things change, the more they stay the same. I take it you don't even look at your cell phone bill? Hint: It would be hard <b>not</b> to pay "thousands of dollars<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... over the years" with just about any contract. $50/month + taxes + bogus fees adds up fast.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heh , you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years .
The more things change , the more they stay the same .
I take it you do n't even look at your cell phone bill ?
Hint : It would be hard not to pay " thousands of dollars ... over the years " with just about any contract .
$ 50/month + taxes + bogus fees adds up fast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heh, you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I take it you don't even look at your cell phone bill?
Hint: It would be hard not to pay "thousands of dollars ... over the years" with just about any contract.
$50/month + taxes + bogus fees adds up fast.

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28140083</id>
	<title>Oldest file? May '86...</title>
	<author>trygstad</author>
	<datestamp>1243618380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I also have my 1986 Prospeed 286. I also found on my current hard drive a Wordstar file from May 1986 which I was able to successfully open with Lotus WordPro.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I also have my 1986 Prospeed 286 .
I also found on my current hard drive a Wordstar file from May 1986 which I was able to successfully open with Lotus WordPro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I also have my 1986 Prospeed 286.
I also found on my current hard drive a Wordstar file from May 1986 which I was able to successfully open with Lotus WordPro.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132245</id>
	<title>Re:oldest pieces?</title>
	<author>docfruitbat</author>
	<datestamp>1243514880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well as far as modem technology goes I've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem; must be from the early 80s I would guess (perhaps older?)</p></div><p>Bah!</p><p>
I still have my original Apple ][ with my original Hayes Micro-modem (110/300) with it's external Micro-coupler (a blue ribbon cable) and the Trend-Comm terminal software for it (running of my Corvus 5Mb (yes, megabyte) harddisk).</p><p>
Now if I could just figure out how to connect it to my HDTV!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well as far as modem technology goes I 've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem ; must be from the early 80s I would guess ( perhaps older ? ) Bah !
I still have my original Apple ] [ with my original Hayes Micro-modem ( 110/300 ) with it 's external Micro-coupler ( a blue ribbon cable ) and the Trend-Comm terminal software for it ( running of my Corvus 5Mb ( yes , megabyte ) harddisk ) .
Now if I could just figure out how to connect it to my HDTV !
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well as far as modem technology goes I've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem; must be from the early 80s I would guess (perhaps older?)Bah!
I still have my original Apple ][ with my original Hayes Micro-modem (110/300) with it's external Micro-coupler (a blue ribbon cable) and the Trend-Comm terminal software for it (running of my Corvus 5Mb (yes, megabyte) harddisk).
Now if I could just figure out how to connect it to my HDTV!
:-)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127509</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133937</id>
	<title>Re:Atari Baby</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243525260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bring out the 1983 Mattel Aquarius with it's 300 baud modem once a decade to try and figure out why I bought it.</p><p>Last time I managed to hack together enough MS Basic to establish a brief Internet connection just for kicks.... but I didn't have any tapes to save the software, so... power off, goodbye.</p><p>They used to call it 'the system for the seventies'  for good reason. The thing was a total abortion brand new.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bring out the 1983 Mattel Aquarius with it 's 300 baud modem once a decade to try and figure out why I bought it.Last time I managed to hack together enough MS Basic to establish a brief Internet connection just for kicks.... but I did n't have any tapes to save the software , so... power off , goodbye.They used to call it 'the system for the seventies ' for good reason .
The thing was a total abortion brand new .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bring out the 1983 Mattel Aquarius with it's 300 baud modem once a decade to try and figure out why I bought it.Last time I managed to hack together enough MS Basic to establish a brief Internet connection just for kicks.... but I didn't have any tapes to save the software, so... power off, goodbye.They used to call it 'the system for the seventies'  for good reason.
The thing was a total abortion brand new.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127457</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130165</id>
	<title>Re:Where'd you get a compatible handset?</title>
	<author>phreakmonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1243505160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>
You expected someone who goes by the moniker "phreakmonkey" to throw away an old telephone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You expected someone who goes by the moniker " phreakmonkey " to throw away an old telephone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
You expected someone who goes by the moniker "phreakmonkey" to throw away an old telephone?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127519</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28140281</id>
	<title>Which TCP/IP stack do you use?</title>
	<author>Sits</author>
	<datestamp>1243619400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This was always one of the things that came to haunt me for using an (3.0 based) Amiga for so long - no TCP/IP stack built in...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This was always one of the things that came to haunt me for using an ( 3.0 based ) Amiga for so long - no TCP/IP stack built in.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This was always one of the things that came to haunt me for using an (3.0 based) Amiga for so long - no TCP/IP stack built in...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128675</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137153</id>
	<title>TTY-15</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243603500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Teletype 15 with documentation dating back to 1939. It was installed at Peterson AFB and transferred to Cheyenne Mountain after the war.</p><p>Works great! Needed a little oil, but it was designed to withstand an atomic war...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Teletype 15 with documentation dating back to 1939 .
It was installed at Peterson AFB and transferred to Cheyenne Mountain after the war.Works great !
Needed a little oil , but it was designed to withstand an atomic war.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Teletype 15 with documentation dating back to 1939.
It was installed at Peterson AFB and transferred to Cheyenne Mountain after the war.Works great!
Needed a little oil, but it was designed to withstand an atomic war...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128517</id>
	<title>Backward Compatibility</title>
	<author>fatp</author>
	<datestamp>1243542480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's nice to see computer equipment which is backward compatible to 45 years ago.<br>

The bad thing is that hardware and software for handling the data has very poor backward compatibility... I have piles of floppy disk, MD which I don't have any device to read. Hope that libraries, labs etc keeps the devices to read ancient tapes, disks or whatever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's nice to see computer equipment which is backward compatible to 45 years ago .
The bad thing is that hardware and software for handling the data has very poor backward compatibility... I have piles of floppy disk , MD which I do n't have any device to read .
Hope that libraries , labs etc keeps the devices to read ancient tapes , disks or whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's nice to see computer equipment which is backward compatible to 45 years ago.
The bad thing is that hardware and software for handling the data has very poor backward compatibility... I have piles of floppy disk, MD which I don't have any device to read.
Hope that libraries, labs etc keeps the devices to read ancient tapes, disks or whatever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127541</id>
	<title>Impeach Obama: +1, PatRIOTic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>by <a href="http://www.uexpress.com/tedrall/" title="uexpress.com" rel="nofollow">Ted Rall</a> [uexpress.com].</p><p>I hope this helps to prevent preventive detention.</p><p>Yours In Socialism,<br>Kilgore Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>by Ted Rall [ uexpress.com ] .I hope this helps to prevent preventive detention.Yours In Socialism,Kilgore Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>by Ted Rall [uexpress.com].I hope this helps to prevent preventive detention.Yours In Socialism,Kilgore Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132645</id>
	<title>Re:Old</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow. And here I was worrying that I'm getting old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
And here I was worrying that I 'm getting old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
And here I was worrying that I'm getting old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127911</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129935</id>
	<title>"Yo..this is 'insanely great,' it's got a 300 baud</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243504260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Kind of reminds me of the film 'Hackers' and the line by Phreak: <br> <br>"Yo...this is 'insanely great,' it's got a 28.8 kbps modem!"
<br>

Wonder what Phreak would have made of this?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Kind of reminds me of the film 'Hackers ' and the line by Phreak : " Yo...this is 'insanely great, ' it 's got a 28.8 kbps modem !
" Wonder what Phreak would have made of this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kind of reminds me of the film 'Hackers' and the line by Phreak:  "Yo...this is 'insanely great,' it's got a 28.8 kbps modem!
"


Wonder what Phreak would have made of this?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127881</id>
	<title>Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap</title>
	<author>toejam13</author>
	<datestamp>1243540860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, there is a software package for Commodore 8-bit systems called <a href="http://www.6502.org/users/andre/osa/index.html" title="6502.org">GeckOS</a> [6502.org] that includes a TCP/IP stack with serial SLIP support.  You could hook a <a href="http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/ouser.html" title="zimmers.net">Commodore 8010</a> [zimmers.net] acoustic couple modem to your PET and surf at 300 baud.<br>
<br>
Not that you'd want to.  But you could.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , there is a software package for Commodore 8-bit systems called GeckOS [ 6502.org ] that includes a TCP/IP stack with serial SLIP support .
You could hook a Commodore 8010 [ zimmers.net ] acoustic couple modem to your PET and surf at 300 baud .
Not that you 'd want to .
But you could .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, there is a software package for Commodore 8-bit systems called GeckOS [6502.org] that includes a TCP/IP stack with serial SLIP support.
You could hook a Commodore 8010 [zimmers.net] acoustic couple modem to your PET and surf at 300 baud.
Not that you'd want to.
But you could.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127321</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28139409</id>
	<title>Osbourne 1</title>
	<author>Naatach</author>
	<datestamp>1243614840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still have the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne\_1" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Osbourne 1</a> [wikipedia.org] luggable running CP/M.  It still works if I could find a working 5 1/4" floppy that still worked.

28 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have the Osbourne 1 [ wikipedia.org ] luggable running CP/M .
It still works if I could find a working 5 1/4 " floppy that still worked .
28 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have the Osbourne 1 [wikipedia.org] luggable running CP/M.
It still works if I could find a working 5 1/4" floppy that still worked.
28 years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131681</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>gbear711</author>
	<datestamp>1243512000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have one of those (TRS-80) and an Amstrad PPC640, both still work. The Amstrad is a "laptop" about 2 1/2 feet long. The floppy disk for the TRS is 8 inch.
Ahh the old slow days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have one of those ( TRS-80 ) and an Amstrad PPC640 , both still work .
The Amstrad is a " laptop " about 2 1/2 feet long .
The floppy disk for the TRS is 8 inch .
Ahh the old slow days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have one of those (TRS-80) and an Amstrad PPC640, both still work.
The Amstrad is a "laptop" about 2 1/2 feet long.
The floppy disk for the TRS is 8 inch.
Ahh the old slow days.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129943</id>
	<title>Re:Still working with Paper Tape</title>
	<author>mindaktiviti</author>
	<datestamp>1243504260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Part of the reason why China is so far ahead of manufacturing.  Because Canadian and US machine shops still use old slow CNC / NC Machines from the 70s &amp; 80s.  They could compete if they were better equipped.  Wages are but a small cost of manufacturing.</p><p>In the mid 2000's I was still helping with RS232 serial port connections so they could upload their G Codes into the Fanuc controller.</p><p>(speaking from industry experience)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Part of the reason why China is so far ahead of manufacturing .
Because Canadian and US machine shops still use old slow CNC / NC Machines from the 70s &amp; 80s .
They could compete if they were better equipped .
Wages are but a small cost of manufacturing.In the mid 2000 's I was still helping with RS232 serial port connections so they could upload their G Codes into the Fanuc controller .
( speaking from industry experience )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Part of the reason why China is so far ahead of manufacturing.
Because Canadian and US machine shops still use old slow CNC / NC Machines from the 70s &amp; 80s.
They could compete if they were better equipped.
Wages are but a small cost of manufacturing.In the mid 2000's I was still helping with RS232 serial port connections so they could upload their G Codes into the Fanuc controller.
(speaking from industry experience)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</id>
	<title>Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>NotQuiteReal</author>
	<datestamp>1243539780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I mean the phone instrument itself, perhaps with a dial? You know, the heavy duty ones that say property of Bell on the bottom?
<br>
<br>
Heh, you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean the phone instrument itself , perhaps with a dial ?
You know , the heavy duty ones that say property of Bell on the bottom ?
Heh , you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean the phone instrument itself, perhaps with a dial?
You know, the heavy duty ones that say property of Bell on the bottom?
Heh, you might check your parents or grandma... they have probably paid thousands of dollars for that phone over the years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128125</id>
	<title>Procrastinate much?</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1243541460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work.</i></p><p>Wow. And I thought <i>I</i> was bad about putting things off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work.Wow .
And I thought I was bad about putting things off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He recieved it in 1989 and recently decided to see if it would actually work.Wow.
And I thought I was bad about putting things off.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129541</id>
	<title>Re:Old</title>
	<author>Sj0</author>
	<datestamp>1243502580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's nothing. I just breathed some hydrogen, and I figure those puppies(The hydrogen atoms) are about as old as old gets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's nothing .
I just breathed some hydrogen , and I figure those puppies ( The hydrogen atoms ) are about as old as old gets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's nothing.
I just breathed some hydrogen, and I figure those puppies(The hydrogen atoms) are about as old as old gets.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127911</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128219</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>OwnedByTwoCats</author>
	<datestamp>1243541760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Drill Press and Lathe from 1938.  I've replaced the belts, but the rest of the parts (motors, bearings) are all original, and still work (except for the return spring on the drill press).  I turned a bowl on that lathe earlier this year.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Drill Press and Lathe from 1938 .
I 've replaced the belts , but the rest of the parts ( motors , bearings ) are all original , and still work ( except for the return spring on the drill press ) .
I turned a bowl on that lathe earlier this year .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Drill Press and Lathe from 1938.
I've replaced the belts, but the rest of the parts (motors, bearings) are all original, and still work (except for the return spring on the drill press).
I turned a bowl on that lathe earlier this year.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129271</id>
	<title>Mine is bigger!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243501680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an grounding cable going from my computer to the Earth.</p><p>That's makes it a 4.5 billion year old piece of equipment!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an grounding cable going from my computer to the Earth.That 's makes it a 4.5 billion year old piece of equipment !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an grounding cable going from my computer to the Earth.That's makes it a 4.5 billion year old piece of equipment!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128789</id>
	<title>Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard"</title>
	<author>jeffb (2.718)</author>
	<datestamp>1243543260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Pick a small set of standards that will work "well enough" and let them become the Legacy Standard. I'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment, such as printers and scanners, that won't connect to any computer that I own. I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.</p></div><p>Okay.  Would the "good enough" legacy graphics standard be VGA?  Oops, you'll have to toss all your EGA, CGA, Hercules and NTSC/PAL monitors.  For serial connectivity, you could provide a DB-9, and carry around a toolbox full of gender-swappers, null modems and 9-pin/25-pin/mini-DIN/RJ45 connectors like your father did.  For parallel, there's a "standard" of sorts that's still commonly seen -- but do you remember how to connect it to a Centronics 737?  Oh, and don't forget the DB-15 for Ethernet transceivers -- I paid good money for all this thicknet, and there's no way I'm tossing it just because this newfangled twisted-pair stuff has 100 times the capacity.</p><p>Maybe instead of an optical drive, your laptop can have a pop-out shelf bearing an array of different connectors.  You could even put some DIP sockets on the bottom so your old 16K RAM chips don't have to go to waste.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Pick a small set of standards that will work " well enough " and let them become the Legacy Standard .
I 'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment , such as printers and scanners , that wo n't connect to any computer that I own .
I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.Okay .
Would the " good enough " legacy graphics standard be VGA ?
Oops , you 'll have to toss all your EGA , CGA , Hercules and NTSC/PAL monitors .
For serial connectivity , you could provide a DB-9 , and carry around a toolbox full of gender-swappers , null modems and 9-pin/25-pin/mini-DIN/RJ45 connectors like your father did .
For parallel , there 's a " standard " of sorts that 's still commonly seen -- but do you remember how to connect it to a Centronics 737 ?
Oh , and do n't forget the DB-15 for Ethernet transceivers -- I paid good money for all this thicknet , and there 's no way I 'm tossing it just because this newfangled twisted-pair stuff has 100 times the capacity.Maybe instead of an optical drive , your laptop can have a pop-out shelf bearing an array of different connectors .
You could even put some DIP sockets on the bottom so your old 16K RAM chips do n't have to go to waste .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pick a small set of standards that will work "well enough" and let them become the Legacy Standard.
I'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment, such as printers and scanners, that won't connect to any computer that I own.
I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.Okay.
Would the "good enough" legacy graphics standard be VGA?
Oops, you'll have to toss all your EGA, CGA, Hercules and NTSC/PAL monitors.
For serial connectivity, you could provide a DB-9, and carry around a toolbox full of gender-swappers, null modems and 9-pin/25-pin/mini-DIN/RJ45 connectors like your father did.
For parallel, there's a "standard" of sorts that's still commonly seen -- but do you remember how to connect it to a Centronics 737?
Oh, and don't forget the DB-15 for Ethernet transceivers -- I paid good money for all this thicknet, and there's no way I'm tossing it just because this newfangled twisted-pair stuff has 100 times the capacity.Maybe instead of an optical drive, your laptop can have a pop-out shelf bearing an array of different connectors.
You could even put some DIP sockets on the bottom so your old 16K RAM chips don't have to go to waste.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127517</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128807</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>godztempus</author>
	<datestamp>1243543320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>1993 Model M here. I only got it this year though, but so far it is the best keyboard I have typed on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>1993 Model M here .
I only got it this year though , but so far it is the best keyboard I have typed on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1993 Model M here.
I only got it this year though, but so far it is the best keyboard I have typed on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127731</id>
	<title>Mine is my dick at 54 years!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And it still works most of the time!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And it still works most of the time !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it still works most of the time!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128391</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243542120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a TRS-80 model 1 in working condition,<br>A Centronics 101A printer in working condition,<br>and an oak box acoustic coupler that ran at 134.5 baud.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a TRS-80 model 1 in working condition,A Centronics 101A printer in working condition,and an oak box acoustic coupler that ran at 134.5 baud .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a TRS-80 model 1 in working condition,A Centronics 101A printer in working condition,and an oak box acoustic coupler that ran at 134.5 baud.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133715</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243523760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.<br>It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.</p></div><p>I've got one too, an early 60's model H02-170A.  It had been sitting in a garage forever.  I had assumed it was broken for years, but replaced a fuse the other day and it seems to be mostly functional.  It's mil spec, 90 lbs, 500 watts, a mixture of tubes and germanium transistors.  Cost somewhere around $2800 new, which would be equivalent to (according to an online inflation calculator) nearly $20,000 today.  It's still perfectly useful, if a bit inconvenient.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works , but I 've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.I 've got one too , an early 60 's model H02-170A .
It had been sitting in a garage forever .
I had assumed it was broken for years , but replaced a fuse the other day and it seems to be mostly functional .
It 's mil spec , 90 lbs , 500 watts , a mixture of tubes and germanium transistors .
Cost somewhere around $ 2800 new , which would be equivalent to ( according to an online inflation calculator ) nearly $ 20,000 today .
It 's still perfectly useful , if a bit inconvenient .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.I've got one too, an early 60's model H02-170A.
It had been sitting in a garage forever.
I had assumed it was broken for years, but replaced a fuse the other day and it seems to be mostly functional.
It's mil spec, 90 lbs, 500 watts, a mixture of tubes and germanium transistors.
Cost somewhere around $2800 new, which would be equivalent to (according to an online inflation calculator) nearly $20,000 today.
It's still perfectly useful, if a bit inconvenient.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132801</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>mvdw</author>
	<datestamp>1243517700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I personally have a stockpile of 5 or 6 of these, plus another complete set of keycaps. I love my Model M.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally have a stockpile of 5 or 6 of these , plus another complete set of keycaps .
I love my Model M .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally have a stockpile of 5 or 6 of these, plus another complete set of keycaps.
I love my Model M.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127869</id>
	<title>1900's Mechanical Cash Register</title>
	<author>Radtastic</author>
	<datestamp>1243540800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure if this is what the OP had in mind, but I have a National Cash Register model that I believe is from either 1894 or 1904.  (It's been in my garage for about 10 years, with the intentional plan of restoring it.)
<br> <br>
All the keys and counter still work.  Honestly, I'm amazed by the engineering every time I look inside.
<br> <br>
I'm at work, so I can't verify 100\%, but <a href="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FANTASTIC-ANTIQUE--NATIONAL-CASH-REGISTER-\_W0QQitemZ160337437209QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090525?IMSfp=TL090525142003r30169" title="ebay.co.uk" rel="nofollow"> this listing from ebay </a> [ebay.co.uk] is pretty close. (I do know it's a "dolphin" design.)
<br> <br>

The drawer numbers don't match the register (a detriment for collectors' purposes), but it's still a cool piece of machinery.  Weighs a ton.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure if this is what the OP had in mind , but I have a National Cash Register model that I believe is from either 1894 or 1904 .
( It 's been in my garage for about 10 years , with the intentional plan of restoring it .
) All the keys and counter still work .
Honestly , I 'm amazed by the engineering every time I look inside .
I 'm at work , so I ca n't verify 100 \ % , but this listing from ebay [ ebay.co.uk ] is pretty close .
( I do know it 's a " dolphin " design .
) The drawer numbers do n't match the register ( a detriment for collectors ' purposes ) , but it 's still a cool piece of machinery .
Weighs a ton .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure if this is what the OP had in mind, but I have a National Cash Register model that I believe is from either 1894 or 1904.
(It's been in my garage for about 10 years, with the intentional plan of restoring it.
)
 
All the keys and counter still work.
Honestly, I'm amazed by the engineering every time I look inside.
I'm at work, so I can't verify 100\%, but  this listing from ebay  [ebay.co.uk] is pretty close.
(I do know it's a "dolphin" design.
)
 

The drawer numbers don't match the register (a detriment for collectors' purposes), but it's still a cool piece of machinery.
Weighs a ton.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129149</id>
	<title>Sliderule</title>
	<author>Phreakiture</author>
	<datestamp>1243501260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a sliderule.  I don't know how old it is, but I can guess.  My dad used it when he was in high school, and he would have been in the class of 1963, so it could be as old as 1958 or so, depending on what math classes he was taking.  He is a math whiz, so it is conceivable that he was taking more advanced courses earlier than later.</p><p>Related, I have a Monroe desk calculator that I do use every time I pay my bills.  I don't know its age, but I would guess at around 1980 or so.  It has a vacuum fluorescent display, and can run either on 4 C cells or a wall wart.  It doesn't have a printer like many in that era, but it does use the accumulator approach to addition and subtraction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a sliderule .
I do n't know how old it is , but I can guess .
My dad used it when he was in high school , and he would have been in the class of 1963 , so it could be as old as 1958 or so , depending on what math classes he was taking .
He is a math whiz , so it is conceivable that he was taking more advanced courses earlier than later.Related , I have a Monroe desk calculator that I do use every time I pay my bills .
I do n't know its age , but I would guess at around 1980 or so .
It has a vacuum fluorescent display , and can run either on 4 C cells or a wall wart .
It does n't have a printer like many in that era , but it does use the accumulator approach to addition and subtraction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a sliderule.
I don't know how old it is, but I can guess.
My dad used it when he was in high school, and he would have been in the class of 1963, so it could be as old as 1958 or so, depending on what math classes he was taking.
He is a math whiz, so it is conceivable that he was taking more advanced courses earlier than later.Related, I have a Monroe desk calculator that I do use every time I pay my bills.
I don't know its age, but I would guess at around 1980 or so.
It has a vacuum fluorescent display, and can run either on 4 C cells or a wall wart.
It doesn't have a printer like many in that era, but it does use the accumulator approach to addition and subtraction.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129019</id>
	<title>Old music tech</title>
	<author>Bobb Sledd</author>
	<datestamp>1243543980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have, and still currently use, a 1991 Ensoniq EPS 16+ 16-bit sampler with a SCSI interface.  I have it connected to a SCSI ZIP drive on one side, and the other side of the ZIP drive is connected to my PC.  I then use a piece of software that can read/write to the ZIP disk (and can do other disk-utilty things).  This allows me to search the net for any given sound effect/instrument wav file, convert it into an EPS 16+ instrument, write it to the disk, and then load it into the EPS 16+ and play it on the keyboard.</p><p>So I suppose I can say that it is connected to the Internet, in a small way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have , and still currently use , a 1991 Ensoniq EPS 16 + 16-bit sampler with a SCSI interface .
I have it connected to a SCSI ZIP drive on one side , and the other side of the ZIP drive is connected to my PC .
I then use a piece of software that can read/write to the ZIP disk ( and can do other disk-utilty things ) .
This allows me to search the net for any given sound effect/instrument wav file , convert it into an EPS 16 + instrument , write it to the disk , and then load it into the EPS 16 + and play it on the keyboard.So I suppose I can say that it is connected to the Internet , in a small way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have, and still currently use, a 1991 Ensoniq EPS 16+ 16-bit sampler with a SCSI interface.
I have it connected to a SCSI ZIP drive on one side, and the other side of the ZIP drive is connected to my PC.
I then use a piece of software that can read/write to the ZIP disk (and can do other disk-utilty things).
This allows me to search the net for any given sound effect/instrument wav file, convert it into an EPS 16+ instrument, write it to the disk, and then load it into the EPS 16+ and play it on the keyboard.So I suppose I can say that it is connected to the Internet, in a small way.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28135565</id>
	<title>"piece of equipment" is pretty generic!</title>
	<author>Flexagon</author>
	<datestamp>1243627620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My grandfather-in-law's slide rule is considerably older and still multiplies.  My Magnavox tube radio and my Dad's <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsleeper/2577034209" title="flickr.com">Kodak Medalist</a> [flickr.com] camera using 620 film (which is 120 film on a fatter spool) are probably about the same.  Assuming I don't have it, a museum astrolabe is far older yet functional, as is my answer to today's poll (the screw).</htmltext>
<tokenext>My grandfather-in-law 's slide rule is considerably older and still multiplies .
My Magnavox tube radio and my Dad 's Kodak Medalist [ flickr.com ] camera using 620 film ( which is 120 film on a fatter spool ) are probably about the same .
Assuming I do n't have it , a museum astrolabe is far older yet functional , as is my answer to today 's poll ( the screw ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My grandfather-in-law's slide rule is considerably older and still multiplies.
My Magnavox tube radio and my Dad's Kodak Medalist [flickr.com] camera using 620 film (which is 120 film on a fatter spool) are probably about the same.
Assuming I don't have it, a museum astrolabe is far older yet functional, as is my answer to today's poll (the screw).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130319</id>
	<title>my killer ancient "console"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243505580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This thing has to be faster than an N64 and I rigged it up to play one game and one game only so now it's a console lol.  But it's an AMD K6-2 machine at like 450MHz.  I bumped it up from 64 MB of ram to 192 and put an ATI Radeon 7000 PCI graphics card in it so it can just barely play Stepmania, a knock off of Dance Dance Revolution.  It runs Windows ME cuz I needed that for the PS2 to USB dance pad adapter drivers to for sure work.  Also it wasn't fast enough for Ubuntu lol.  The first thing I did when I got it was see that it had a PCI network card and I was like "yeah, I don't think so" and took that out so there's no way the winner of the DDR competition in October will try and connect it to the internet after they get it home.  It's an old HP compaq case with the wavy, bulgy front that looks kinda neat once you paint it red and the body black and with.  It seriously looks like an alienware now lol.  People will ahve no idea what they're getting but it looks cool!  Well as long as all they do is boot up and open Stepmania, they're fine<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D  Pretty neat, huh?  Especially since I got it for free.  btw I also got a $10 monstrous CRT monitor at a rummage sale and gave it and some small speakers the same black and red paint job so the whole set looks like it costs $2000 instead of about $40 lol.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This thing has to be faster than an N64 and I rigged it up to play one game and one game only so now it 's a console lol .
But it 's an AMD K6-2 machine at like 450MHz .
I bumped it up from 64 MB of ram to 192 and put an ATI Radeon 7000 PCI graphics card in it so it can just barely play Stepmania , a knock off of Dance Dance Revolution .
It runs Windows ME cuz I needed that for the PS2 to USB dance pad adapter drivers to for sure work .
Also it was n't fast enough for Ubuntu lol .
The first thing I did when I got it was see that it had a PCI network card and I was like " yeah , I do n't think so " and took that out so there 's no way the winner of the DDR competition in October will try and connect it to the internet after they get it home .
It 's an old HP compaq case with the wavy , bulgy front that looks kinda neat once you paint it red and the body black and with .
It seriously looks like an alienware now lol .
People will ahve no idea what they 're getting but it looks cool !
Well as long as all they do is boot up and open Stepmania , they 're fine : D Pretty neat , huh ?
Especially since I got it for free .
btw I also got a $ 10 monstrous CRT monitor at a rummage sale and gave it and some small speakers the same black and red paint job so the whole set looks like it costs $ 2000 instead of about $ 40 lol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This thing has to be faster than an N64 and I rigged it up to play one game and one game only so now it's a console lol.
But it's an AMD K6-2 machine at like 450MHz.
I bumped it up from 64 MB of ram to 192 and put an ATI Radeon 7000 PCI graphics card in it so it can just barely play Stepmania, a knock off of Dance Dance Revolution.
It runs Windows ME cuz I needed that for the PS2 to USB dance pad adapter drivers to for sure work.
Also it wasn't fast enough for Ubuntu lol.
The first thing I did when I got it was see that it had a PCI network card and I was like "yeah, I don't think so" and took that out so there's no way the winner of the DDR competition in October will try and connect it to the internet after they get it home.
It's an old HP compaq case with the wavy, bulgy front that looks kinda neat once you paint it red and the body black and with.
It seriously looks like an alienware now lol.
People will ahve no idea what they're getting but it looks cool!
Well as long as all they do is boot up and open Stepmania, they're fine :D  Pretty neat, huh?
Especially since I got it for free.
btw I also got a $10 monstrous CRT monitor at a rummage sale and gave it and some small speakers the same black and red paint job so the whole set looks like it costs $2000 instead of about $40 lol.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128901</id>
	<title>Ancient Floppy drive emulation</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1243543620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>F.y.i.  For those of you with H89s, TRS-80s or Apple II's that want to keep them working, this guy sells a virtual floppy drive that allows you to save disk images to a Windows or Linux machine and access them on you vintage machine.
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/" title="thesvd.com">http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/</a> [thesvd.com]
<br> <br>
I haven't used one yet, but when I find some time, I plan to hook one to my H89.</htmltext>
<tokenext>F.y.i .
For those of you with H89s , TRS-80s or Apple II 's that want to keep them working , this guy sells a virtual floppy drive that allows you to save disk images to a Windows or Linux machine and access them on you vintage machine .
http : //www.thesvd.com/SVD/ [ thesvd.com ] I have n't used one yet , but when I find some time , I plan to hook one to my H89 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>F.y.i.
For those of you with H89s, TRS-80s or Apple II's that want to keep them working, this guy sells a virtual floppy drive that allows you to save disk images to a Windows or Linux machine and access them on you vintage machine.
http://www.thesvd.com/SVD/ [thesvd.com]
 
I haven't used one yet, but when I find some time, I plan to hook one to my H89.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127723</id>
	<title>TRS-80 25 years+</title>
	<author>SpeedyG5</author>
	<datestamp>1243540320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My friend still does all his accounting on TRS-80's, he runs a printing business and bought 3 units as spare parts supplies so he can have 5 9's uptime<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) Not the oldest but for still being used as a critical app that is pretty darned old.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My friend still does all his accounting on TRS-80 's , he runs a printing business and bought 3 units as spare parts supplies so he can have 5 9 's uptime ; ) Not the oldest but for still being used as a critical app that is pretty darned old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My friend still does all his accounting on TRS-80's, he runs a printing business and bought 3 units as spare parts supplies so he can have 5 9's uptime ;) Not the oldest but for still being used as a critical app that is pretty darned old.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130559</id>
	<title>I'll be starting a museum RSN....</title>
	<author>macraig</author>
	<datestamp>1243506600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a few oldies:</p><ul> <li>Iomega Bernoulli 90 drives and cartridges;</li><li>80486 motherboards with VESA Local Bus;</li><li>original Microsoft serial mouse, with textured solid steel ball and <b>movable steel ball bearings</b> where we normally expect Teflon sliders now;</li><li>Microsoft MS-DOS v1.1 diskette;</li><li>... and I'm sure there's more.</li></ul><p>I had a Sinclair QL, too, but sadly I chose to sell it to another geek coworker at Quarterdeck back around '93.  I regret not keeping that one!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a few oldies : Iomega Bernoulli 90 drives and cartridges ; 80486 motherboards with VESA Local Bus ; original Microsoft serial mouse , with textured solid steel ball and movable steel ball bearings where we normally expect Teflon sliders now ; Microsoft MS-DOS v1.1 diskette ; ... and I 'm sure there 's more.I had a Sinclair QL , too , but sadly I chose to sell it to another geek coworker at Quarterdeck back around '93 .
I regret not keeping that one !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a few oldies: Iomega Bernoulli 90 drives and cartridges;80486 motherboards with VESA Local Bus;original Microsoft serial mouse, with textured solid steel ball and movable steel ball bearings where we normally expect Teflon sliders now;Microsoft MS-DOS v1.1 diskette;... and I'm sure there's more.I had a Sinclair QL, too, but sadly I chose to sell it to another geek coworker at Quarterdeck back around '93.
I regret not keeping that one!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131897</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>nuckfuts</author>
	<datestamp>1243513080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The problem I've found with older oscilloscopes is not that they stop working, but are simply too slow for use with modern electronics.</p><p>I bought an entry-level scope back in the 80's that was good for signals up to about 20 MHz IIRC. This was plenty fast compared to a state-of-the-art Intel 80386 running at 16 MHz back then. It wouldn't be much use today where CPU's are clocked in GHz.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem I 've found with older oscilloscopes is not that they stop working , but are simply too slow for use with modern electronics.I bought an entry-level scope back in the 80 's that was good for signals up to about 20 MHz IIRC .
This was plenty fast compared to a state-of-the-art Intel 80386 running at 16 MHz back then .
It would n't be much use today where CPU 's are clocked in GHz .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem I've found with older oscilloscopes is not that they stop working, but are simply too slow for use with modern electronics.I bought an entry-level scope back in the 80's that was good for signals up to about 20 MHz IIRC.
This was plenty fast compared to a state-of-the-art Intel 80386 running at 16 MHz back then.
It wouldn't be much use today where CPU's are clocked in GHz.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129721</id>
	<title>Oldies but goodies</title>
	<author>jimofoz</author>
	<datestamp>1243503240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was listening to my Sony ICF-2001 (1981) radio last night. I still pull out my TRS Model 100 (1985) now and then. The readout's a little funky, but my first Casio calculator (1976) still works, and while very rarely used, my Sans &amp; Streiffe slide rule (1969) hasn't dropped a bit yet. And my Vectrex video game (1981) still buzzes along just fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was listening to my Sony ICF-2001 ( 1981 ) radio last night .
I still pull out my TRS Model 100 ( 1985 ) now and then .
The readout 's a little funky , but my first Casio calculator ( 1976 ) still works , and while very rarely used , my Sans &amp; Streiffe slide rule ( 1969 ) has n't dropped a bit yet .
And my Vectrex video game ( 1981 ) still buzzes along just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was listening to my Sony ICF-2001 (1981) radio last night.
I still pull out my TRS Model 100 (1985) now and then.
The readout's a little funky, but my first Casio calculator (1976) still works, and while very rarely used, my Sans &amp; Streiffe slide rule (1969) hasn't dropped a bit yet.
And my Vectrex video game (1981) still buzzes along just fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130625</id>
	<title>I have a FASIT C1-13 Mechanical Calculators</title>
	<author>agge</author>
	<datestamp>1243506840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an old FASIT Mechanical Calculators that was made in 1967. My dad found it recently cleaning up at a relatives home and gave it to me and I got it working.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an old FASIT Mechanical Calculators that was made in 1967 .
My dad found it recently cleaning up at a relatives home and gave it to me and I got it working .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an old FASIT Mechanical Calculators that was made in 1967.
My dad found it recently cleaning up at a relatives home and gave it to me and I got it working.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128131</id>
	<title>Three great old units</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243541460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an IBM PC, and IBM-AT and a Tandy 102 (The ORIGINAL notebook).  All work fine.  I use the Tote-02 for a terminal every now an then for text based CLI routers and such.  Every year or so I fire up the PC and the AT just to make sure they still work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an IBM PC , and IBM-AT and a Tandy 102 ( The ORIGINAL notebook ) .
All work fine .
I use the Tote-02 for a terminal every now an then for text based CLI routers and such .
Every year or so I fire up the PC and the AT just to make sure they still work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an IBM PC, and IBM-AT and a Tandy 102 (The ORIGINAL notebook).
All work fine.
I use the Tote-02 for a terminal every now an then for text based CLI routers and such.
Every year or so I fire up the PC and the AT just to make sure they still work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129131</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>Gotung</author>
	<datestamp>1243501200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Around 1996 I was the treasurer for my fraternity. I happened upon the fact that we had been renting the phone in our kitchen for like $12 a month from Ma Bell for as far back as their records went at the time -- 1984.
<br> <br>
We had spent at least ~$2000 renting this damn phone, and when I tried to put a stop to it the customer service rep helpfully explained to me that renting it was an awesome deal because if it ever broke they would replace it for free<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Around 1996 I was the treasurer for my fraternity .
I happened upon the fact that we had been renting the phone in our kitchen for like $ 12 a month from Ma Bell for as far back as their records went at the time -- 1984 .
We had spent at least ~ $ 2000 renting this damn phone , and when I tried to put a stop to it the customer service rep helpfully explained to me that renting it was an awesome deal because if it ever broke they would replace it for free .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Around 1996 I was the treasurer for my fraternity.
I happened upon the fact that we had been renting the phone in our kitchen for like $12 a month from Ma Bell for as far back as their records went at the time -- 1984.
We had spent at least ~$2000 renting this damn phone, and when I tried to put a stop to it the customer service rep helpfully explained to me that renting it was an awesome deal because if it ever broke they would replace it for free ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131261</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243509780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My TRS-80 Model 100 Laptop still works. I even have the cable for the 300 baud modem. The docking station still works too. Used to use it on FidoNET.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My TRS-80 Model 100 Laptop still works .
I even have the cable for the 300 baud modem .
The docking station still works too .
Used to use it on FidoNET .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My TRS-80 Model 100 Laptop still works.
I even have the cable for the 300 baud modem.
The docking station still works too.
Used to use it on FidoNET.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128445</id>
	<title>Wow!</title>
	<author>wytten</author>
	<datestamp>1243542300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They had 300 baud in 1964?  Raise your hand if you were still using 110 baud in the 1970's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They had 300 baud in 1964 ?
Raise your hand if you were still using 110 baud in the 1970 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They had 300 baud in 1964?
Raise your hand if you were still using 110 baud in the 1970's.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28143845</id>
	<title>RSS on a Model 15 Teletype from 1944</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1243591560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I have a <a href="http://www.animats.com/nagle/aetheric/refurbishing.html" title="animats.com">Model 15 Teletype</a> [animats.com], a 1930 design built in 1944, not only working, but printing RSS news feeds.  The Reuters RSS feed gives me a nice news report.  Each time Reuters posts a new story, the Teletype motor turns on, the big machine prints the story, and it shuts down again.
</p><p>
I also set it up so that I can send text messages from the Teletype keyboard.  All upper case, of course.
</p><p>
These machines are incredibly overdesigned, which is why they still work after 65 years.  Unless they've been physically damaged, it's not that hard to get one running again.  Mine just required thorough cleaning and oiling (over 500 oiling points), a new ribbon, and a roll of paper.  I had to build a level-converting interface for the thing; it needs a 60mA current loop with 120VDC powering it.  So I designed a small PC board for that.
</p><p>A standard PC serial port will talk to it, at 45.45 baud, 5 bits, 1.5 stop bits, no parity.  Which Windows will happily do.  (Linux won't; the Linux scheme for selecting baud rates uses a fixed list of baud rates left over from the PDP-11 era. There are driver-level hacks to get around this, but the stock serial driver won't do it.) I wrote a Python program to handle the Teletype's Baudot issues and machine control, and to poll RSS feeds, printing each new story exactly once.  It also does NOAA weather reports.
</p><p>
I've tried various RSS feeds. Reuters has the cleanest ones for this purpose.  Each story comes with a heading and a brief, coherent summary.  Most of the other RSS news feeds either just have the headlines, or truncate each story arbitrarily, ending it with "...".  Reuters adds about one new story per hour, on average.  It just printed "OBAMA TO NAME WHITE HOUSE CYBERSECURITY CZAR".  (This is an upper-case-only machine, remember.)
</p><p>
Once I build a transparent case for the machine, I'm going to loan it to the Exploratorium or the Computer Museum.  It will be set up to print news, and maybe incoming text messages so kids can text to it.
</p><p>
Suggest some good RSS feeds for demo purposes.  Reuters has about one story per hour. A feed that produces something every 5-10 minutes would be useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Model 15 Teletype [ animats.com ] , a 1930 design built in 1944 , not only working , but printing RSS news feeds .
The Reuters RSS feed gives me a nice news report .
Each time Reuters posts a new story , the Teletype motor turns on , the big machine prints the story , and it shuts down again .
I also set it up so that I can send text messages from the Teletype keyboard .
All upper case , of course .
These machines are incredibly overdesigned , which is why they still work after 65 years .
Unless they 've been physically damaged , it 's not that hard to get one running again .
Mine just required thorough cleaning and oiling ( over 500 oiling points ) , a new ribbon , and a roll of paper .
I had to build a level-converting interface for the thing ; it needs a 60mA current loop with 120VDC powering it .
So I designed a small PC board for that .
A standard PC serial port will talk to it , at 45.45 baud , 5 bits , 1.5 stop bits , no parity .
Which Windows will happily do .
( Linux wo n't ; the Linux scheme for selecting baud rates uses a fixed list of baud rates left over from the PDP-11 era .
There are driver-level hacks to get around this , but the stock serial driver wo n't do it .
) I wrote a Python program to handle the Teletype 's Baudot issues and machine control , and to poll RSS feeds , printing each new story exactly once .
It also does NOAA weather reports .
I 've tried various RSS feeds .
Reuters has the cleanest ones for this purpose .
Each story comes with a heading and a brief , coherent summary .
Most of the other RSS news feeds either just have the headlines , or truncate each story arbitrarily , ending it with " ... " .
Reuters adds about one new story per hour , on average .
It just printed " OBAMA TO NAME WHITE HOUSE CYBERSECURITY CZAR " .
( This is an upper-case-only machine , remember .
) Once I build a transparent case for the machine , I 'm going to loan it to the Exploratorium or the Computer Museum .
It will be set up to print news , and maybe incoming text messages so kids can text to it .
Suggest some good RSS feeds for demo purposes .
Reuters has about one story per hour .
A feed that produces something every 5-10 minutes would be useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I have a Model 15 Teletype [animats.com], a 1930 design built in 1944, not only working, but printing RSS news feeds.
The Reuters RSS feed gives me a nice news report.
Each time Reuters posts a new story, the Teletype motor turns on, the big machine prints the story, and it shuts down again.
I also set it up so that I can send text messages from the Teletype keyboard.
All upper case, of course.
These machines are incredibly overdesigned, which is why they still work after 65 years.
Unless they've been physically damaged, it's not that hard to get one running again.
Mine just required thorough cleaning and oiling (over 500 oiling points), a new ribbon, and a roll of paper.
I had to build a level-converting interface for the thing; it needs a 60mA current loop with 120VDC powering it.
So I designed a small PC board for that.
A standard PC serial port will talk to it, at 45.45 baud, 5 bits, 1.5 stop bits, no parity.
Which Windows will happily do.
(Linux won't; the Linux scheme for selecting baud rates uses a fixed list of baud rates left over from the PDP-11 era.
There are driver-level hacks to get around this, but the stock serial driver won't do it.
) I wrote a Python program to handle the Teletype's Baudot issues and machine control, and to poll RSS feeds, printing each new story exactly once.
It also does NOAA weather reports.
I've tried various RSS feeds.
Reuters has the cleanest ones for this purpose.
Each story comes with a heading and a brief, coherent summary.
Most of the other RSS news feeds either just have the headlines, or truncate each story arbitrarily, ending it with "...".
Reuters adds about one new story per hour, on average.
It just printed "OBAMA TO NAME WHITE HOUSE CYBERSECURITY CZAR".
(This is an upper-case-only machine, remember.
)

Once I build a transparent case for the machine, I'm going to loan it to the Exploratorium or the Computer Museum.
It will be set up to print news, and maybe incoming text messages so kids can text to it.
Suggest some good RSS feeds for demo purposes.
Reuters has about one story per hour.
A feed that produces something every 5-10 minutes would be useful.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127489</id>
	<title>"Would you like to play a game?"</title>
	<author>peter303</author>
	<datestamp>1243539720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems. - Ferris Bueller</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems .
- Ferris Bueller</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems.
- Ferris Bueller</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127705</id>
	<title>Who else had one?</title>
	<author>reidiq</author>
	<datestamp>1243540260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had a Tandy 1000 that I got from my dad when he bought it decades ago. I remember thinking how freaking cool it was when I was a kid playing games on it and printing reports for school on the dot matrix printer lol.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a Tandy 1000 that I got from my dad when he bought it decades ago .
I remember thinking how freaking cool it was when I was a kid playing games on it and printing reports for school on the dot matrix printer lol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a Tandy 1000 that I got from my dad when he bought it decades ago.
I remember thinking how freaking cool it was when I was a kid playing games on it and printing reports for school on the dot matrix printer lol.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131985</id>
	<title>70+ year old voltmeters...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243513500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>About 10 years ago I worked in a shipyard as a test electrician.  We had the old Simpson multimeters that were built into their wooden cases.  Some of them were manufactured in 1925.  We would hook one up to each phase of the supply going to a switchgear and take periodic readings.  They handled the high temperatures in the bowels of the ship much better than the newfangled digital thingies.  You also had instant deflection of the needle if something spiked or dropped, whereas digital meters take time to autorange.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>About 10 years ago I worked in a shipyard as a test electrician .
We had the old Simpson multimeters that were built into their wooden cases .
Some of them were manufactured in 1925 .
We would hook one up to each phase of the supply going to a switchgear and take periodic readings .
They handled the high temperatures in the bowels of the ship much better than the newfangled digital thingies .
You also had instant deflection of the needle if something spiked or dropped , whereas digital meters take time to autorange .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>About 10 years ago I worked in a shipyard as a test electrician.
We had the old Simpson multimeters that were built into their wooden cases.
Some of them were manufactured in 1925.
We would hook one up to each phase of the supply going to a switchgear and take periodic readings.
They handled the high temperatures in the bowels of the ship much better than the newfangled digital thingies.
You also had instant deflection of the needle if something spiked or dropped, whereas digital meters take time to autorange.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129809</id>
	<title>Micromoog</title>
	<author>FatalTourist</author>
	<datestamp>1243503600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Micromoog synthesizer from the late 70's is the oldest piece of gear that I actually use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Micromoog synthesizer from the late 70 's is the oldest piece of gear that I actually use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Micromoog synthesizer from the late 70's is the oldest piece of gear that I actually use.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127507</id>
	<title>About 30 years here...</title>
	<author>Onyma</author>
	<datestamp>1243539720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a three-some of working Commodore PETs (2001, 4032, SuperPET) with associated disk &amp; tape drives.  All still work though some of the floppies get read errors now.  I had a term package and modem for the SuperPET...  I should set it all up again sometime and try the same feat for fun.  The 2001 puts me back bordering 30 years... sigh.  Thanks, now I feel old.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a three-some of working Commodore PETs ( 2001 , 4032 , SuperPET ) with associated disk &amp; tape drives .
All still work though some of the floppies get read errors now .
I had a term package and modem for the SuperPET... I should set it all up again sometime and try the same feat for fun .
The 2001 puts me back bordering 30 years... sigh. Thanks , now I feel old .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a three-some of working Commodore PETs (2001, 4032, SuperPET) with associated disk &amp; tape drives.
All still work though some of the floppies get read errors now.
I had a term package and modem for the SuperPET...  I should set it all up again sometime and try the same feat for fun.
The 2001 puts me back bordering 30 years... sigh.  Thanks, now I feel old.
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130271</id>
	<title>Old School Tech</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243505400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a rock that's a couple of billion years old.</p><p>Still trying to find an interface for the rock. For now, it's merely a handheld device.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a rock that 's a couple of billion years old.Still trying to find an interface for the rock .
For now , it 's merely a handheld device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a rock that's a couple of billion years old.Still trying to find an interface for the rock.
For now, it's merely a handheld device.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128855</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243543440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.<br>It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.</p></div><p>Why are you carrying it in your car? You could put it on a shelf in the garage for the next 50 years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works , but I 've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.Why are you carrying it in your car ?
You could put it on a shelf in the garage for the next 50 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.Why are you carrying it in your car?
You could put it on a shelf in the garage for the next 50 years.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129409</id>
	<title>Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>Telecommando</author>
	<datestamp>1243502160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Computer related? ASR33 teletype (1965). I occasionally fire it up to show off my AIM-65 (1976).</p><p>Audio equipment? 1958 Harmon Kardon Stereo Festival TA230. I play MP3's through it on a pair of Klipsch KG2s (1982). Still sounds great.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Computer related ?
ASR33 teletype ( 1965 ) .
I occasionally fire it up to show off my AIM-65 ( 1976 ) .Audio equipment ?
1958 Harmon Kardon Stereo Festival TA230 .
I play MP3 's through it on a pair of Klipsch KG2s ( 1982 ) .
Still sounds great .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computer related?
ASR33 teletype (1965).
I occasionally fire it up to show off my AIM-65 (1976).Audio equipment?
1958 Harmon Kardon Stereo Festival TA230.
I play MP3's through it on a pair of Klipsch KG2s (1982).
Still sounds great.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28135145</id>
	<title>Question sleft unanswered</title>
	<author>sharkey</author>
	<datestamp>1243535760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did he play Global Thermonuclear War, or just a nice game of chess?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did he play Global Thermonuclear War , or just a nice game of chess ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did he play Global Thermonuclear War, or just a nice game of chess?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137015</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243602480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>My bread knife was made in the early 20th century somewhere in Illinois. It cuts bread better than any other knife I've used. With on maintenance whatsoever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My bread knife was made in the early 20th century somewhere in Illinois .
It cuts bread better than any other knife I 've used .
With on maintenance whatsoever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My bread knife was made in the early 20th century somewhere in Illinois.
It cuts bread better than any other knife I've used.
With on maintenance whatsoever.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134211</id>
	<title>Model ASR35 Teletype</title>
	<author>vaporland</author>
	<datestamp>1243527120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an old Dell server running SIMH emulating the HP2000 Time Shared Access operating system I learned in junior high school. I used to play text-based blackjack for hours after school, printing out on roll after roll of paper.<br> <br>A former Navy communications specialist and teletype repairman gave me a model ASR35 Teletype that I hooked up to the SIMH software and server.<br> <br>Someone on the SIMH newsgroup was the person who scrapped our school system's HP2000 computer in the early eighties. He had a backup tape image and sent it to me, and I found programs written by a friend of my brother's in the main program library.<br> <br>I can run the same computer system in my house that I dreamed of having as a kid. Totally useless, but totally fun.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an old Dell server running SIMH emulating the HP2000 Time Shared Access operating system I learned in junior high school .
I used to play text-based blackjack for hours after school , printing out on roll after roll of paper .
A former Navy communications specialist and teletype repairman gave me a model ASR35 Teletype that I hooked up to the SIMH software and server .
Someone on the SIMH newsgroup was the person who scrapped our school system 's HP2000 computer in the early eighties .
He had a backup tape image and sent it to me , and I found programs written by a friend of my brother 's in the main program library .
I can run the same computer system in my house that I dreamed of having as a kid .
Totally useless , but totally fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an old Dell server running SIMH emulating the HP2000 Time Shared Access operating system I learned in junior high school.
I used to play text-based blackjack for hours after school, printing out on roll after roll of paper.
A former Navy communications specialist and teletype repairman gave me a model ASR35 Teletype that I hooked up to the SIMH software and server.
Someone on the SIMH newsgroup was the person who scrapped our school system's HP2000 computer in the early eighties.
He had a backup tape image and sent it to me, and I found programs written by a friend of my brother's in the main program library.
I can run the same computer system in my house that I dreamed of having as a kid.
Totally useless, but totally fun.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127691</id>
	<title>Apple IIe, Compaq</title>
	<author>sean\_nestor</author>
	<datestamp>1243540200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I own two Apple IIes that work perfectly (one complete with the boxes it came in!). Nothing like playing Oregon Trail the way God intended it...

<p>I also have the original <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq\_Portable" title="wikipedia.org">Compaq portable</a> [wikipedia.org], which was arguably the first laptop computer. Sadly, one of my students smoked the power supply a couple years back, so it no longer works. I know that eliminates it from the category of "still working", but it did work for 26 years, which is fairly impressive. And its still fun to show people the design.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I own two Apple IIes that work perfectly ( one complete with the boxes it came in ! ) .
Nothing like playing Oregon Trail the way God intended it.. . I also have the original Compaq portable [ wikipedia.org ] , which was arguably the first laptop computer .
Sadly , one of my students smoked the power supply a couple years back , so it no longer works .
I know that eliminates it from the category of " still working " , but it did work for 26 years , which is fairly impressive .
And its still fun to show people the design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I own two Apple IIes that work perfectly (one complete with the boxes it came in!).
Nothing like playing Oregon Trail the way God intended it...

I also have the original Compaq portable [wikipedia.org], which was arguably the first laptop computer.
Sadly, one of my students smoked the power supply a couple years back, so it no longer works.
I know that eliminates it from the category of "still working", but it did work for 26 years, which is fairly impressive.
And its still fun to show people the design.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137873</id>
	<title>Antique Computers</title>
	<author>chuckpol</author>
	<datestamp>1243607640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I own a warehouse full of old computers, all versions of TRS80's, Apple's, Amiga's, Zenith kits, NeXt, Heathkit's, and many more. They all work and have 8" drives, old external floppies for TRS80's as well as 5 Meg hard drives. Software for all the systems. All versions of DOS and Windows (version 1 up), old versions of many old software packages (especially versions 1).
Want to create a computer museum someday (especially if I can find someone who would like to help) I live in NC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I own a warehouse full of old computers , all versions of TRS80 's , Apple 's , Amiga 's , Zenith kits , NeXt , Heathkit 's , and many more .
They all work and have 8 " drives , old external floppies for TRS80 's as well as 5 Meg hard drives .
Software for all the systems .
All versions of DOS and Windows ( version 1 up ) , old versions of many old software packages ( especially versions 1 ) .
Want to create a computer museum someday ( especially if I can find someone who would like to help ) I live in NC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I own a warehouse full of old computers, all versions of TRS80's, Apple's, Amiga's, Zenith kits, NeXt, Heathkit's, and many more.
They all work and have 8" drives, old external floppies for TRS80's as well as 5 Meg hard drives.
Software for all the systems.
All versions of DOS and Windows (version 1 up), old versions of many old software packages (especially versions 1).
Want to create a computer museum someday (especially if I can find someone who would like to help) I live in NC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136645</id>
	<title>mer?</title>
	<author>Sarreq Teryx</author>
	<datestamp>1243598100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?"</i> <br> <br>
I doubt a pair of (currently in-use in my home theater) ~40-year old Pioneer 16ohm bookshelf speakers count, or is very impressive in comparison, but they sound awesome.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The question I have , is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there ?
" I doubt a pair of ( currently in-use in my home theater ) ~ 40-year old Pioneer 16ohm bookshelf speakers count , or is very impressive in comparison , but they sound awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?
"  
I doubt a pair of (currently in-use in my home theater) ~40-year old Pioneer 16ohm bookshelf speakers count, or is very impressive in comparison, but they sound awesome.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128755</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243543080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny, i have a Tektronix myself that's in about the same situation, very rarely used, more often played with.</p><p>a few things to check out would be youscope and some of the vector graphics games where you can output from your PC sound card to the oscope in x/y mode.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny , i have a Tektronix myself that 's in about the same situation , very rarely used , more often played with.a few things to check out would be youscope and some of the vector graphics games where you can output from your PC sound card to the oscope in x/y mode .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny, i have a Tektronix myself that's in about the same situation, very rarely used, more often played with.a few things to check out would be youscope and some of the vector graphics games where you can output from your PC sound card to the oscope in x/y mode.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130533</id>
	<title>Well you didn't specify electronic</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1243506420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a working 1888 Commission Rifle. I have a nonworking one that's getting steampunked. I also have a working 5.25" floppy drive 80s vintage. It came in some sort of external box with full sized 50 pin D connector.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a working 1888 Commission Rifle .
I have a nonworking one that 's getting steampunked .
I also have a working 5.25 " floppy drive 80s vintage .
It came in some sort of external box with full sized 50 pin D connector .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a working 1888 Commission Rifle.
I have a nonworking one that's getting steampunked.
I also have a working 5.25" floppy drive 80s vintage.
It came in some sort of external box with full sized 50 pin D connector.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137635</id>
	<title>Re:How Old Is My Crap: Mac ][ci</title>
	<author>shadedream</author>
	<datestamp>1243606380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ahh how I wish I still had an old IIsi just for nostalgia. My oldest current box is a Color Classic. Before I got married a few years back I had a Mac 512k though... kicking myself every so often for not keeping it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ahh how I wish I still had an old IIsi just for nostalgia .
My oldest current box is a Color Classic .
Before I got married a few years back I had a Mac 512k though... kicking myself every so often for not keeping it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ahh how I wish I still had an old IIsi just for nostalgia.
My oldest current box is a Color Classic.
Before I got married a few years back I had a Mac 512k though... kicking myself every so often for not keeping it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127593</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28139769</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243616760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM\_Model\_M\_keyboard</p><p>Still made by Unicomp apparently. Also pop up on ebay every now and then -</p><p>http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?satitle=model+m+keyboard</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM \ _Model \ _M \ _keyboardStill made by Unicomp apparently .
Also pop up on ebay every now and then -http : //search.ebay.com/search/search.dll ? satitle = model + m + keyboard</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM\_Model\_M\_keyboardStill made by Unicomp apparently.
Also pop up on ebay every now and then -http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?satitle=model+m+keyboard</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127569</id>
	<title>My 1979 Apple</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Apple ][+ with Micromodem II took over an hour to download a 120K photo at 300baud and then I found out that it fill up the entire floppy disk</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Apple ] [ + with Micromodem II took over an hour to download a 120K photo at 300baud and then I found out that it fill up the entire floppy disk</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Apple ][+ with Micromodem II took over an hour to download a 120K photo at 300baud and then I found out that it fill up the entire floppy disk</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128635</id>
	<title>Baudot Teletypes?</title>
	<author>jddj</author>
	<datestamp>1243542780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a cheat, 'cause I don't have 'em any longer, but around the time I built my first computer (with a soldering iron...you kids...) a Sinclair ZX-81, I went looking for a printer.</p><p>At the time, printers were maybe $1-2,000, and $1-2000 was a hell of a lot more money than it is now.</p><p>I found 2 Baudot-code teletypes at the SC School for the Deaf, and they wanted something like $50 for the pair. I borrowed the van from the A/V company where I worked and lugged them back home, to the great disdain of my soon-to-be ex-wife.</p><p>They were amazing pieces of gear - way ovebuilt, a lot of machined cast metal, huge synchronous motors, and a current-loop interface that I never did get around to interfacing with the ZX-81 (though I did get 'em to talk to each other).</p><p>They were huge (think of large heavy desks full of dusty gear about 4-1/2 feet tall), and I dragged them around for a few years. A couple years after my divorce, I moved out of my parents' home and eventually they told me to get the things out of there. I called museums, couldn't get any takers, and though it broke my heart, I had to let the trashmen drag 'em off. Really a pity.</p><p>I know someone would want them today. And I could interface them today (but for my very young child - takes all my time). And I still have the ZX-81.</p><p>And Baudot, for those who don't know, is what you had before you had EBCDIC or ASCII. it was a 5-bit character code, with a control character that shifted the character set up, and shifted it back down to extend the characters it could communicate (think of the shift key on your keyboard as "push-on, push-again-off". Very, very steampunk...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a cheat , 'cause I do n't have 'em any longer , but around the time I built my first computer ( with a soldering iron...you kids... ) a Sinclair ZX-81 , I went looking for a printer.At the time , printers were maybe $ 1-2,000 , and $ 1-2000 was a hell of a lot more money than it is now.I found 2 Baudot-code teletypes at the SC School for the Deaf , and they wanted something like $ 50 for the pair .
I borrowed the van from the A/V company where I worked and lugged them back home , to the great disdain of my soon-to-be ex-wife.They were amazing pieces of gear - way ovebuilt , a lot of machined cast metal , huge synchronous motors , and a current-loop interface that I never did get around to interfacing with the ZX-81 ( though I did get 'em to talk to each other ) .They were huge ( think of large heavy desks full of dusty gear about 4-1/2 feet tall ) , and I dragged them around for a few years .
A couple years after my divorce , I moved out of my parents ' home and eventually they told me to get the things out of there .
I called museums , could n't get any takers , and though it broke my heart , I had to let the trashmen drag 'em off .
Really a pity.I know someone would want them today .
And I could interface them today ( but for my very young child - takes all my time ) .
And I still have the ZX-81.And Baudot , for those who do n't know , is what you had before you had EBCDIC or ASCII .
it was a 5-bit character code , with a control character that shifted the character set up , and shifted it back down to extend the characters it could communicate ( think of the shift key on your keyboard as " push-on , push-again-off " .
Very , very steampunk.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a cheat, 'cause I don't have 'em any longer, but around the time I built my first computer (with a soldering iron...you kids...) a Sinclair ZX-81, I went looking for a printer.At the time, printers were maybe $1-2,000, and $1-2000 was a hell of a lot more money than it is now.I found 2 Baudot-code teletypes at the SC School for the Deaf, and they wanted something like $50 for the pair.
I borrowed the van from the A/V company where I worked and lugged them back home, to the great disdain of my soon-to-be ex-wife.They were amazing pieces of gear - way ovebuilt, a lot of machined cast metal, huge synchronous motors, and a current-loop interface that I never did get around to interfacing with the ZX-81 (though I did get 'em to talk to each other).They were huge (think of large heavy desks full of dusty gear about 4-1/2 feet tall), and I dragged them around for a few years.
A couple years after my divorce, I moved out of my parents' home and eventually they told me to get the things out of there.
I called museums, couldn't get any takers, and though it broke my heart, I had to let the trashmen drag 'em off.
Really a pity.I know someone would want them today.
And I could interface them today (but for my very young child - takes all my time).
And I still have the ZX-81.And Baudot, for those who don't know, is what you had before you had EBCDIC or ASCII.
it was a 5-bit character code, with a control character that shifted the character set up, and shifted it back down to extend the characters it could communicate (think of the shift key on your keyboard as "push-on, push-again-off".
Very, very steampunk...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128297</id>
	<title>Re:ISA slots</title>
	<author>Shadow\_139</author>
	<datestamp>1243541880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We have a few P4 desktops with have ISA, PCI and PCIe slots, they are controlling a system of VERY large CNC systems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a few P4 desktops with have ISA , PCI and PCIe slots , they are controlling a system of VERY large CNC systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a few P4 desktops with have ISA, PCI and PCIe slots, they are controlling a system of VERY large CNC systems.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132349</id>
	<title>Re:PowerMac 5400</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1243515420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room, with a video in card. That came out in 1996, so it's about 13 years old. Until recently, he'd use it for watching VHS movies &amp; playing his XBox.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Ha! I am typing this right now on my PowerMac 8500, also manufactured in 1996. I use mine to surf the web and write portable, open-source C and C++ libraries, and still run Mac OS classic on it. The Apple Extended Keyboard II is sort of like the IBM model M; real switches for every key, nice audible feedback.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room , with a video in card .
That came out in 1996 , so it 's about 13 years old .
Until recently , he 'd use it for watching VHS movies &amp; playing his XBox .
Ha ! I am typing this right now on my PowerMac 8500 , also manufactured in 1996 .
I use mine to surf the web and write portable , open-source C and C + + libraries , and still run Mac OS classic on it .
The Apple Extended Keyboard II is sort of like the IBM model M ; real switches for every key , nice audible feedback .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My stepson currently has a PowerMac 5400 in his room, with a video in card.
That came out in 1996, so it's about 13 years old.
Until recently, he'd use it for watching VHS movies &amp; playing his XBox.
Ha! I am typing this right now on my PowerMac 8500, also manufactured in 1996.
I use mine to surf the web and write portable, open-source C and C++ libraries, and still run Mac OS classic on it.
The Apple Extended Keyboard II is sort of like the IBM model M; real switches for every key, nice audible feedback.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127487</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130175</id>
	<title>tahyk</title>
	<author>tahyk</author>
	<datestamp>1243505160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My B-52 (strategic bomber) still works and was built in the 50s.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)

But generally military stuff is not planned for 5 years, even if it uses high tech electrical components, which became quite obsolate in 10-20 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My B-52 ( strategic bomber ) still works and was built in the 50s .
: - ) But generally military stuff is not planned for 5 years , even if it uses high tech electrical components , which became quite obsolate in 10-20 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My B-52 (strategic bomber) still works and was built in the 50s.
:-)

But generally military stuff is not planned for 5 years, even if it uses high tech electrical components, which became quite obsolate in 10-20 years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129353</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243501920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you sure it wasn't just the especially overengineered stuff that tended to survive and the other 99\% of the stuff broke down and was thrown away over the years, just like today?  I'll maybe grant you that back in the day people tended to overengineer more because they were very close to the finished product and wanted it to have that little something extra, but my guess is that most of the stuff from back then is just as crappy as most of the stuff is today.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you sure it was n't just the especially overengineered stuff that tended to survive and the other 99 \ % of the stuff broke down and was thrown away over the years , just like today ?
I 'll maybe grant you that back in the day people tended to overengineer more because they were very close to the finished product and wanted it to have that little something extra , but my guess is that most of the stuff from back then is just as crappy as most of the stuff is today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you sure it wasn't just the especially overengineered stuff that tended to survive and the other 99\% of the stuff broke down and was thrown away over the years, just like today?
I'll maybe grant you that back in the day people tended to overengineer more because they were very close to the finished product and wanted it to have that little something extra, but my guess is that most of the stuff from back then is just as crappy as most of the stuff is today.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127623</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131359</id>
	<title>my old stuff</title>
	<author>cstacy</author>
	<datestamp>1243510440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's see, I have an original Macintosh that still boots, a TRS-80 circa 1977 that I think works (but haven't tried it lately), and an H19 terminal (kit) circa 1979 that I still actually use as the console for one of my DEC Alpha computers.

I also have a prototype (wire wrapped) Lisp Machine circa 1980 from when I worked at the AI Lab; this was running fine when I last turned it off about 12 years ago, but I would have to do serious maintenance on it (mostly on the disk drive) before attempting to run that one again, for fear of destroying something.  I also have some Symbolics machines from the late 80s that probably work.

I think I lost the bare 3x1" circuit board and alligator clips 300 baud modem that I originally used on the H19.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see , I have an original Macintosh that still boots , a TRS-80 circa 1977 that I think works ( but have n't tried it lately ) , and an H19 terminal ( kit ) circa 1979 that I still actually use as the console for one of my DEC Alpha computers .
I also have a prototype ( wire wrapped ) Lisp Machine circa 1980 from when I worked at the AI Lab ; this was running fine when I last turned it off about 12 years ago , but I would have to do serious maintenance on it ( mostly on the disk drive ) before attempting to run that one again , for fear of destroying something .
I also have some Symbolics machines from the late 80s that probably work .
I think I lost the bare 3x1 " circuit board and alligator clips 300 baud modem that I originally used on the H19 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see, I have an original Macintosh that still boots, a TRS-80 circa 1977 that I think works (but haven't tried it lately), and an H19 terminal (kit) circa 1979 that I still actually use as the console for one of my DEC Alpha computers.
I also have a prototype (wire wrapped) Lisp Machine circa 1980 from when I worked at the AI Lab; this was running fine when I last turned it off about 12 years ago, but I would have to do serious maintenance on it (mostly on the disk drive) before attempting to run that one again, for fear of destroying something.
I also have some Symbolics machines from the late 80s that probably work.
I think I lost the bare 3x1" circuit board and alligator clips 300 baud modem that I originally used on the H19.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28143811</id>
	<title>From back in the day..</title>
	<author>LilGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1243591380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My dad had an old tandy that we just sold at auction a couple years ago.  I believe our first IBM Compatible 468's original 125mb hard drive is still in a box of stuff in my mom's basement somewhere.  I know there's a 14.4k modem somewhere in that box too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My dad had an old tandy that we just sold at auction a couple years ago .
I believe our first IBM Compatible 468 's original 125mb hard drive is still in a box of stuff in my mom 's basement somewhere .
I know there 's a 14.4k modem somewhere in that box too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dad had an old tandy that we just sold at auction a couple years ago.
I believe our first IBM Compatible 468's original 125mb hard drive is still in a box of stuff in my mom's basement somewhere.
I know there's a 14.4k modem somewhere in that box too.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136761</id>
	<title>A Sad Day. . .</title>
	<author>bplipschitz</author>
	<datestamp>1243599600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I took my 22 year old Leading Edge Model D [complete with 640k RAM and huge 40 Mb HD] to the recyclers yesterday.</p><p>My first real computer, purchased with my own money.</p><p>LEWP was a decent word processor.</p><p>RIP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I took my 22 year old Leading Edge Model D [ complete with 640k RAM and huge 40 Mb HD ] to the recyclers yesterday.My first real computer , purchased with my own money.LEWP was a decent word processor.RIP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I took my 22 year old Leading Edge Model D [complete with 640k RAM and huge 40 Mb HD] to the recyclers yesterday.My first real computer, purchased with my own money.LEWP was a decent word processor.RIP.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128387</id>
	<title>Toshiba T1000</title>
	<author>Mr. DOS</author>
	<datestamp>1243542120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba\_T1000" title="wikipedia.org">Toshiba T1000</a> [wikipedia.org], which would now be 21-22 years old. I have a lot of other old equipment, including a generic XT clone from the early 80's (so, about 25 years old) and its CGA monitor, oh, and my NES, which would be about the same age (although I'm not sure if consoles count in this discussion).</p><p>The oldest networking equipment I have is probably a U.S. Robotics 56k modem that used X.2 or whatever they called it, not V90/V92. Wonderful modem - even if it does only connect at 28.8kbps now due to the fact nothing is using its native protocol, when using it, I had the fewer dropped connections than with any other modem.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --- Mr. DOS</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Toshiba T1000 [ wikipedia.org ] , which would now be 21-22 years old .
I have a lot of other old equipment , including a generic XT clone from the early 80 's ( so , about 25 years old ) and its CGA monitor , oh , and my NES , which would be about the same age ( although I 'm not sure if consoles count in this discussion ) .The oldest networking equipment I have is probably a U.S. Robotics 56k modem that used X.2 or whatever they called it , not V90/V92 .
Wonderful modem - even if it does only connect at 28.8kbps now due to the fact nothing is using its native protocol , when using it , I had the fewer dropped connections than with any other modem .
      --- Mr. DOS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Toshiba T1000 [wikipedia.org], which would now be 21-22 years old.
I have a lot of other old equipment, including a generic XT clone from the early 80's (so, about 25 years old) and its CGA monitor, oh, and my NES, which would be about the same age (although I'm not sure if consoles count in this discussion).The oldest networking equipment I have is probably a U.S. Robotics 56k modem that used X.2 or whatever they called it, not V90/V92.
Wonderful modem - even if it does only connect at 28.8kbps now due to the fact nothing is using its native protocol, when using it, I had the fewer dropped connections than with any other modem.
      --- Mr. DOS</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128729</id>
	<title>Apple II in closet</title>
	<author>swheatle</author>
	<datestamp>1243543080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>With 16Kb memory expansion (up to 64Kb) with 80-column card and hard-hack for lower case letters. I think it just had its 30th birthday.</htmltext>
<tokenext>With 16Kb memory expansion ( up to 64Kb ) with 80-column card and hard-hack for lower case letters .
I think it just had its 30th birthday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With 16Kb memory expansion (up to 64Kb) with 80-column card and hard-hack for lower case letters.
I think it just had its 30th birthday.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127963</id>
	<title>My oldest peice.</title>
	<author>cat6</author>
	<datestamp>1243541040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is a Sega master system that was made in 1987. Yes it still works and I play it about twice a year. This was the Nintendo rival for 8 bit systems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is a Sega master system that was made in 1987 .
Yes it still works and I play it about twice a year .
This was the Nintendo rival for 8 bit systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is a Sega master system that was made in 1987.
Yes it still works and I play it about twice a year.
This was the Nintendo rival for 8 bit systems.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129715</id>
	<title>Ancient laser!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243503180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a 6 foot long HeNe laser from the 1970s. (It still works too)</p><p>Spectra Physics 125A</p><p>It was before they had laser classification so it doesn't even have warning labels!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 6 foot long HeNe laser from the 1970s .
( It still works too ) Spectra Physics 125AIt was before they had laser classification so it does n't even have warning labels !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 6 foot long HeNe laser from the 1970s.
(It still works too)Spectra Physics 125AIt was before they had laser classification so it doesn't even have warning labels!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127883</id>
	<title>Commodore 64</title>
	<author>GodfatherofSoul</author>
	<datestamp>1243540860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Still works, but I haven't tried out the floppy drive (which is ENORMOUS BTW).  I still have fond memories of programming in Basic on it.  This was way before I even knew there was a such thing as a job for programmers!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Still works , but I have n't tried out the floppy drive ( which is ENORMOUS BTW ) .
I still have fond memories of programming in Basic on it .
This was way before I even knew there was a such thing as a job for programmers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still works, but I haven't tried out the floppy drive (which is ENORMOUS BTW).
I still have fond memories of programming in Basic on it.
This was way before I even knew there was a such thing as a job for programmers!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128713</id>
	<title>In use, or not?</title>
	<author>a9db0</author>
	<datestamp>1243543020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm...</p><p>I've got two original IBM ATs - 10MB (yes Megabyte) hard drives, 512k of ram.  But I don't use them.</p><p>I've got a 486DX based server from the early 90's, but I finally shut it down a couple of years ago.  Novell 4.12 on it, it ran flawlessly for over 10 years.</p><p>I do, have a Compaq Prolinea 590.  Mfg sometime in 1995, it is in daily use.  It's my firewall.</p><p>But oldest currently-in-use would probably be my 1993 IBM Model M keyboards.  They'll never die.</p><p>Then there's my 1980 ski boat, which still works beautifully, despite approaching it's 30th birthday.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm...I 've got two original IBM ATs - 10MB ( yes Megabyte ) hard drives , 512k of ram .
But I do n't use them.I 've got a 486DX based server from the early 90 's , but I finally shut it down a couple of years ago .
Novell 4.12 on it , it ran flawlessly for over 10 years.I do , have a Compaq Prolinea 590 .
Mfg sometime in 1995 , it is in daily use .
It 's my firewall.But oldest currently-in-use would probably be my 1993 IBM Model M keyboards .
They 'll never die.Then there 's my 1980 ski boat , which still works beautifully , despite approaching it 's 30th birthday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm...I've got two original IBM ATs - 10MB (yes Megabyte) hard drives, 512k of ram.
But I don't use them.I've got a 486DX based server from the early 90's, but I finally shut it down a couple of years ago.
Novell 4.12 on it, it ran flawlessly for over 10 years.I do, have a Compaq Prolinea 590.
Mfg sometime in 1995, it is in daily use.
It's my firewall.But oldest currently-in-use would probably be my 1993 IBM Model M keyboards.
They'll never die.Then there's my 1980 ski boat, which still works beautifully, despite approaching it's 30th birthday.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127635</id>
	<title>Primary Keyboard: 1991 IBM Model M</title>
	<author>Liket</author>
	<datestamp>1243540080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use?</p><p>I use a 1991 IBM Model M at my main workstation, which puts me at 18 years. They just don't make them like this anymore (well actually <a href="http://www.pckeyboard.com/" title="pckeyboard.com" rel="nofollow">Unicomp</a> [pckeyboard.com] does)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use ? I use a 1991 IBM Model M at my main workstation , which puts me at 18 years .
They just do n't make them like this anymore ( well actually Unicomp [ pckeyboard.com ] does )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use?I use a 1991 IBM Model M at my main workstation, which puts me at 18 years.
They just don't make them like this anymore (well actually Unicomp [pckeyboard.com] does)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129313</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>XNormal</author>
	<datestamp>1243501860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Ignore my post. Jumped the gun. While I do have 2 keyboards, they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use.</p></div><p>I assume you mean they cannot be directly plugged in. This is not the same as "adaptable". Depending on the amount of effort you are willing to spend, <a href="http://www.multipledigression.com/type/" title="multipledigression.com">almost anything/a. is adaptable for use as a PC keboard.</a> [multipledigression.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignore my post .
Jumped the gun .
While I do have 2 keyboards , they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use.I assume you mean they can not be directly plugged in .
This is not the same as " adaptable " .
Depending on the amount of effort you are willing to spend , almost anything/a .
is adaptable for use as a PC keboard .
[ multipledigression.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignore my post.
Jumped the gun.
While I do have 2 keyboards, they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use.I assume you mean they cannot be directly plugged in.
This is not the same as "adaptable".
Depending on the amount of effort you are willing to spend, almost anything/a.
is adaptable for use as a PC keboard.
[multipledigression.com]
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28138383</id>
	<title>Re:Atari Baby</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243609800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The oldest thing I have is either my Amiga 1200 (not really that old compared to some stuff on here) or an old Epson printer (dot matrix, came with a manual detailing the comms protocol it used! (apparently the same protocol still works on most Epsons)) or a Genius mouse (25-pin serial, with Genius paint (for dos IIRC) on a 5.25" disk) or my copy of DBase (III+ or IV, I forget), or finally (and most likely the oldest) a HP 28S scientific graphing calculator (RPN stack ftw).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest thing I have is either my Amiga 1200 ( not really that old compared to some stuff on here ) or an old Epson printer ( dot matrix , came with a manual detailing the comms protocol it used !
( apparently the same protocol still works on most Epsons ) ) or a Genius mouse ( 25-pin serial , with Genius paint ( for dos IIRC ) on a 5.25 " disk ) or my copy of DBase ( III + or IV , I forget ) , or finally ( and most likely the oldest ) a HP 28S scientific graphing calculator ( RPN stack ftw ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest thing I have is either my Amiga 1200 (not really that old compared to some stuff on here) or an old Epson printer (dot matrix, came with a manual detailing the comms protocol it used!
(apparently the same protocol still works on most Epsons)) or a Genius mouse (25-pin serial, with Genius paint (for dos IIRC) on a 5.25" disk) or my copy of DBase (III+ or IV, I forget), or finally (and most likely the oldest) a HP 28S scientific graphing calculator (RPN stack ftw).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127457</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137857</id>
	<title>Typo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243607520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"recieved" - "i before e, except after c".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" recieved " - " i before e , except after c " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"recieved" - "i before e, except after c".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127921</id>
	<title>Heathkit H11</title>
	<author>Temkin</author>
	<datestamp>1243540920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Somewhere at my parent's house I have a PDP-11/03 in Heathkit trim (Heathkit H11).  It worked last time I tried it.  RT-11... Mmmmm.... Ok.  No, it was nasty, but back in 1977 it was a 16 bit TRS-80 killer.  I think I still have a 300 baud acoustic modem somewhere in a box.  It wouldn't be '60's vintage, but mid-70's, not that they evolved much before the Ma Bell lawsuit.  I do have a working TRS-80 model 100 laptop.</p><p>Now get off my lawn...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Somewhere at my parent 's house I have a PDP-11/03 in Heathkit trim ( Heathkit H11 ) .
It worked last time I tried it .
RT-11... Mmmmm.... Ok. No , it was nasty , but back in 1977 it was a 16 bit TRS-80 killer .
I think I still have a 300 baud acoustic modem somewhere in a box .
It would n't be '60 's vintage , but mid-70 's , not that they evolved much before the Ma Bell lawsuit .
I do have a working TRS-80 model 100 laptop.Now get off my lawn.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somewhere at my parent's house I have a PDP-11/03 in Heathkit trim (Heathkit H11).
It worked last time I tried it.
RT-11... Mmmmm.... Ok.  No, it was nasty, but back in 1977 it was a 16 bit TRS-80 killer.
I think I still have a 300 baud acoustic modem somewhere in a box.
It wouldn't be '60's vintage, but mid-70's, not that they evolved much before the Ma Bell lawsuit.
I do have a working TRS-80 model 100 laptop.Now get off my lawn...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130381</id>
	<title>Comptometer - Century Old Mechanical Calculator</title>
	<author>SloppyElvis</author>
	<datestamp>1243505880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an early wooden Comptometer produced some time during 1887-1903.  Still works.  Amazing piece of engineering.</p><p><a href="http://members.cruzio.com/~vagabond/Models.html" title="cruzio.com">http://members.cruzio.com/~vagabond/Models.html</a> [cruzio.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an early wooden Comptometer produced some time during 1887-1903 .
Still works .
Amazing piece of engineering.http : //members.cruzio.com/ ~ vagabond/Models.html [ cruzio.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an early wooden Comptometer produced some time during 1887-1903.
Still works.
Amazing piece of engineering.http://members.cruzio.com/~vagabond/Models.html [cruzio.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128575</id>
	<title>A little earlier</title>
	<author>fyngyrz</author>
	<datestamp>1243542600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I still have working, fully loaded SS-50 bus machines from about 1982 with all kinds of cool cards in them like speech synthesizers, A/D and D/A, graphics cards, memory, etc. I wrote a <i>lot</i> of 6800 and 6809 assembly code back then... in 1994, I wrote a <a href="http://www.blackbeltsystems.com/flexem.html" title="blackbeltsystems.com">complete 6809 system emulation</a> [blackbeltsystems.com], including the OS from the time (6809 Flex) and emulation of an arcade graphics subsystem I designed so I'd always have a working "machine" to fool with my old code. Virtual disk drives, ports, timers, etc. Still runs great; I run it under XP, which runs under Parallels, which runs under OSX.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:o)
</p><p>
I also have a SOROC terminal and a paper tape reader, and a mint tiny BASIC on paper tape (for the 8080.) The first machine I had that I didn't actually build out of TTL was based on a National Semiconductor ISP-8000-8A SC/MP I got in 1976. I published an article about using the SC/MP as a Baudot printer driver with the SWTPC 6800 in the November 1977 issue of Kilobaud. My first published work, in fact.
</p><p>
The first machine I ever owned I built out of TTL in... I think 1970... as there wasn't any other option at the time. A couple of 74181 ALUs in the middle, all manner of other stuff in there, register memory files.... Man, that was a wild nest of wires and sockets. The power supply was a nightmare. But I learned a lot doing it. You can't (or maybe you can) imagine how enthused I was when the 8080 and 6800 hit the market, and the downright euphoria I felt when the 6809 came out.
</p><p>
I still think that the 6809 was one of the best designed MPUs ever from a programming standpoint. I can still write 6800 and 6809 opcodes straight to paper. Even fairly complex things like the 6809's LEA instructions. And calculate its 2's complement branch offsets more or less instantly. Now <i>there's</i> a chunk of neurons I'll never get back....
</p><p>
I did some work for Centuri (an arcade game machine manufacturer) where I built them boards that would plug in where the 6502 was in their then-current hardware, and put a 6809 there instead. Just a few gates and some socket hardware, and goodbye 6502! Lord, I despised the 6502. What a bass-ackwards... nevermind. Then I wrote them a few graphics demos that left a few executives spitting coffee. Nothing like a hardware multiply (and the ability to do easy division by multiplying via a table of reciprocals) to step up from an MPU where the main claim to fame is bloody 8-bit role-reversed index registers...
</p><p>
Oldest working non computer hardware I own is a console AM radio from the 1930s. It's even still mostly original... it'd almost certainly work better if I went in there and replaced a lot of components with their modern equivalents, but it's more interesting as is, and in fact it still works quite well. Doesn't complete with my <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fyngyrz/3513401871/" title="flickr.com">current radio gear</a> [flickr.com], but then again, the currents stuff doesn't have the charm of a polished wood cabinet, either.
</p><p>
Darwin, I'm oooold.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:o)
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have working , fully loaded SS-50 bus machines from about 1982 with all kinds of cool cards in them like speech synthesizers , A/D and D/A , graphics cards , memory , etc .
I wrote a lot of 6800 and 6809 assembly code back then... in 1994 , I wrote a complete 6809 system emulation [ blackbeltsystems.com ] , including the OS from the time ( 6809 Flex ) and emulation of an arcade graphics subsystem I designed so I 'd always have a working " machine " to fool with my old code .
Virtual disk drives , ports , timers , etc .
Still runs great ; I run it under XP , which runs under Parallels , which runs under OSX .
: o ) I also have a SOROC terminal and a paper tape reader , and a mint tiny BASIC on paper tape ( for the 8080 .
) The first machine I had that I did n't actually build out of TTL was based on a National Semiconductor ISP-8000-8A SC/MP I got in 1976 .
I published an article about using the SC/MP as a Baudot printer driver with the SWTPC 6800 in the November 1977 issue of Kilobaud .
My first published work , in fact .
The first machine I ever owned I built out of TTL in... I think 1970... as there was n't any other option at the time .
A couple of 74181 ALUs in the middle , all manner of other stuff in there , register memory files.... Man , that was a wild nest of wires and sockets .
The power supply was a nightmare .
But I learned a lot doing it .
You ca n't ( or maybe you can ) imagine how enthused I was when the 8080 and 6800 hit the market , and the downright euphoria I felt when the 6809 came out .
I still think that the 6809 was one of the best designed MPUs ever from a programming standpoint .
I can still write 6800 and 6809 opcodes straight to paper .
Even fairly complex things like the 6809 's LEA instructions .
And calculate its 2 's complement branch offsets more or less instantly .
Now there 's a chunk of neurons I 'll never get back... . I did some work for Centuri ( an arcade game machine manufacturer ) where I built them boards that would plug in where the 6502 was in their then-current hardware , and put a 6809 there instead .
Just a few gates and some socket hardware , and goodbye 6502 !
Lord , I despised the 6502 .
What a bass-ackwards... nevermind. Then I wrote them a few graphics demos that left a few executives spitting coffee .
Nothing like a hardware multiply ( and the ability to do easy division by multiplying via a table of reciprocals ) to step up from an MPU where the main claim to fame is bloody 8-bit role-reversed index registers.. . Oldest working non computer hardware I own is a console AM radio from the 1930s .
It 's even still mostly original... it 'd almost certainly work better if I went in there and replaced a lot of components with their modern equivalents , but it 's more interesting as is , and in fact it still works quite well .
Does n't complete with my current radio gear [ flickr.com ] , but then again , the currents stuff does n't have the charm of a polished wood cabinet , either .
Darwin , I 'm oooold .
: o )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I still have working, fully loaded SS-50 bus machines from about 1982 with all kinds of cool cards in them like speech synthesizers, A/D and D/A, graphics cards, memory, etc.
I wrote a lot of 6800 and 6809 assembly code back then... in 1994, I wrote a complete 6809 system emulation [blackbeltsystems.com], including the OS from the time (6809 Flex) and emulation of an arcade graphics subsystem I designed so I'd always have a working "machine" to fool with my old code.
Virtual disk drives, ports, timers, etc.
Still runs great; I run it under XP, which runs under Parallels, which runs under OSX.
:o)

I also have a SOROC terminal and a paper tape reader, and a mint tiny BASIC on paper tape (for the 8080.
) The first machine I had that I didn't actually build out of TTL was based on a National Semiconductor ISP-8000-8A SC/MP I got in 1976.
I published an article about using the SC/MP as a Baudot printer driver with the SWTPC 6800 in the November 1977 issue of Kilobaud.
My first published work, in fact.
The first machine I ever owned I built out of TTL in... I think 1970... as there wasn't any other option at the time.
A couple of 74181 ALUs in the middle, all manner of other stuff in there, register memory files.... Man, that was a wild nest of wires and sockets.
The power supply was a nightmare.
But I learned a lot doing it.
You can't (or maybe you can) imagine how enthused I was when the 8080 and 6800 hit the market, and the downright euphoria I felt when the 6809 came out.
I still think that the 6809 was one of the best designed MPUs ever from a programming standpoint.
I can still write 6800 and 6809 opcodes straight to paper.
Even fairly complex things like the 6809's LEA instructions.
And calculate its 2's complement branch offsets more or less instantly.
Now there's a chunk of neurons I'll never get back....

I did some work for Centuri (an arcade game machine manufacturer) where I built them boards that would plug in where the 6502 was in their then-current hardware, and put a 6809 there instead.
Just a few gates and some socket hardware, and goodbye 6502!
Lord, I despised the 6502.
What a bass-ackwards... nevermind. Then I wrote them a few graphics demos that left a few executives spitting coffee.
Nothing like a hardware multiply (and the ability to do easy division by multiplying via a table of reciprocals) to step up from an MPU where the main claim to fame is bloody 8-bit role-reversed index registers...

Oldest working non computer hardware I own is a console AM radio from the 1930s.
It's even still mostly original... it'd almost certainly work better if I went in there and replaced a lot of components with their modern equivalents, but it's more interesting as is, and in fact it still works quite well.
Doesn't complete with my current radio gear [flickr.com], but then again, the currents stuff doesn't have the charm of a polished wood cabinet, either.
Darwin, I'm oooold.
:o)
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137253</id>
	<title>Obligatory begging</title>
	<author>jra</author>
	<datestamp>1243603980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If anyone has any Model M's they hate and want to get rid of, I'll pay shipping.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>I have 4 at the moment, but spares and gifts are always useful...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If anyone has any Model M 's they hate and want to get rid of , I 'll pay shipping .
: - ) I have 4 at the moment , but spares and gifts are always useful.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If anyone has any Model M's they hate and want to get rid of, I'll pay shipping.
:-)I have 4 at the moment, but spares and gifts are always useful...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137251</id>
	<title>Got some too.</title>
	<author>Reservoir Penguin</author>
	<datestamp>1243603980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still use an ancient 5,25 floppy drive for small files because I don't trust usb flash drives anymore. I once detected very suspicious net activity every time I plugged in a Kingston module, God only know whatever microcode they have running on the chips that covertly insists on calling home.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use an ancient 5,25 floppy drive for small files because I do n't trust usb flash drives anymore .
I once detected very suspicious net activity every time I plugged in a Kingston module , God only know whatever microcode they have running on the chips that covertly insists on calling home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use an ancient 5,25 floppy drive for small files because I don't trust usb flash drives anymore.
I once detected very suspicious net activity every time I plugged in a Kingston module, God only know whatever microcode they have running on the chips that covertly insists on calling home.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131419</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Geminii</author>
	<datestamp>1243510680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You can still get them online. I use one myself, and it's the longest-surviving hardware component of my home system.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can still get them online .
I use one myself , and it 's the longest-surviving hardware component of my home system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can still get them online.
I use one myself, and it's the longest-surviving hardware component of my home system.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128535</id>
	<title>Oldest piece for me...</title>
	<author>awshidahak</author>
	<datestamp>1243542480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a first generation Sega Genesis.  That's the oldest piece of <i>working</i> hardware.  The oldest piece of hardware I have is a VideoWriter.  Unfortunately the vertical fly on the display is bad so I'll have to try and fix that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a first generation Sega Genesis .
That 's the oldest piece of working hardware .
The oldest piece of hardware I have is a VideoWriter .
Unfortunately the vertical fly on the display is bad so I 'll have to try and fix that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a first generation Sega Genesis.
That's the oldest piece of working hardware.
The oldest piece of hardware I have is a VideoWriter.
Unfortunately the vertical fly on the display is bad so I'll have to try and fix that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128405</id>
	<title>This just in!</title>
	<author>cybereal</author>
	<datestamp>1243542180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>65 year old feet used to walk!</p><p>10 year old bicycle used to ride!</p><p>Wait, what's the significance of a modem, modulating and demodulating as it was originally intended?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>65 year old feet used to walk ! 10 year old bicycle used to ride ! Wait , what 's the significance of a modem , modulating and demodulating as it was originally intended ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>65 year old feet used to walk!10 year old bicycle used to ride!Wait, what's the significance of a modem, modulating and demodulating as it was originally intended?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127875</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ignore my post.  Jumped the gun.  While I do have 2 keyboards, they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use.</p><p>*mumbles something about Alzheimer's creeping in*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignore my post .
Jumped the gun .
While I do have 2 keyboards , they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use .
* mumbles something about Alzheimer 's creeping in *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignore my post.
Jumped the gun.
While I do have 2 keyboards, they are for IBM terminals and not adaptable for PC use.
*mumbles something about Alzheimer's creeping in*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130231</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243505280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet your windows always crash because so old hammers aren't supported.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet your windows always crash because so old hammers are n't supported .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet your windows always crash because so old hammers aren't supported.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127321</id>
	<title>Just Throw It on the Meme Heap</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1243539180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>

&lt;meme&gt;My name is <a href="http://features.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/11/17/204207" title="slashdot.org" rel="nofollow">Junis</a> [slashdot.org], I am posting this from a Commodore64 and my 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem in Afghanistan after years of oppression underneath the Taliban<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...&lt;/meme&gt; <br> <br>

And I suppose the instant I show any signs of lag in World of Warcraft I'll have to listen to my guildmates crack jokes about me using a 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem ruining the raid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My name is Junis [ slashdot.org ] , I am posting this from a Commodore64 and my 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem in Afghanistan after years of oppression underneath the Taliban .. . And I suppose the instant I show any signs of lag in World of Warcraft I 'll have to listen to my guildmates crack jokes about me using a 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem ruining the raid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

My name is Junis [slashdot.org], I am posting this from a Commodore64 and my 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem in Afghanistan after years of oppression underneath the Taliban ...  

And I suppose the instant I show any signs of lag in World of Warcraft I'll have to listen to my guildmates crack jokes about me using a 1964 Livermore Data Systems Model A Acoustic Coupler Modem ruining the raid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131177</id>
	<title>2 Apple IIs</title>
	<author>randmcnatt</author>
	<datestamp>1243509420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The both still boot, except the one with 5.25in floppy drives attached always wants me to insert a system disk.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The both still boot , except the one with 5.25in floppy drives attached always wants me to insert a system disk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The both still boot, except the one with 5.25in floppy drives attached always wants me to insert a system disk.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127517</id>
	<title>PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard"</title>
	<author>starglider29a</author>
	<datestamp>1243539780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid, which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old. The driod can still connect.<br> <br>
Pick a small set of standards that will work "well enough" and let them become the Legacy Standard. I'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment, such as printers and scanners, that won't connect to any computer that I own. I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.<br> <br>
I hope that someday, someone posts a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. article entitled "100 year old hardware used to connect to DNFNet"<p><div class="quote"><p>The grandson of Hemos connected to the DukeNukemForeverNet* using a computer with USB, DVI, a drive that SPINS, and only 64GB of RAM, after all, 64GB should be enough RAM for anybody.</p></div><p>*DNFNEt is a networking protocol that uses baling wire and bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid , which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old .
The driod can still connect .
Pick a small set of standards that will work " well enough " and let them become the Legacy Standard .
I 'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment , such as printers and scanners , that wo n't connect to any computer that I own .
I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards .
I hope that someday , someone posts a / .
article entitled " 100 year old hardware used to connect to DNFNet " The grandson of Hemos connected to the DukeNukemForeverNet * using a computer with USB , DVI , a drive that SPINS , and only 64GB of RAM , after all , 64GB should be enough RAM for anybody .
* DNFNEt is a networking protocol that uses baling wire and bubble gum... and I 'm all out of bubble gum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid, which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old.
The driod can still connect.
Pick a small set of standards that will work "well enough" and let them become the Legacy Standard.
I'm so sick of going to garage sales and seeing good equipment, such as printers and scanners, that won't connect to any computer that I own.
I have a drawer full of PS/2 keyboards.
I hope that someday, someone posts a /.
article entitled "100 year old hardware used to connect to DNFNet"The grandson of Hemos connected to the DukeNukemForeverNet* using a computer with USB, DVI, a drive that SPINS, and only 64GB of RAM, after all, 64GB should be enough RAM for anybody.
*DNFNEt is a networking protocol that uses baling wire and bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134547</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>adavies42</author>
	<datestamp>1243530120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>there's a mac plus in my parent's basement, complete with imagewriter ii, pre-scsi HD20, external second 800kB floppy drive, and 14.4k hayes modem, all in working condition last time it was unboxed and powered up (about five years ago, iirc). ah, word 4.0 and dungeon of doom, those were the days....</htmltext>
<tokenext>there 's a mac plus in my parent 's basement , complete with imagewriter ii , pre-scsi HD20 , external second 800kB floppy drive , and 14.4k hayes modem , all in working condition last time it was unboxed and powered up ( about five years ago , iirc ) .
ah , word 4.0 and dungeon of doom , those were the days... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there's a mac plus in my parent's basement, complete with imagewriter ii, pre-scsi HD20, external second 800kB floppy drive, and 14.4k hayes modem, all in working condition last time it was unboxed and powered up (about five years ago, iirc).
ah, word 4.0 and dungeon of doom, those were the days....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128237</id>
	<title>Classic computing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243541760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the past could years, I've really become very interested in classic computing.  I'm buying all the computers that I lusted over but couldn't dream of ever being able to afford.  I had an amiga 500 back in 1988 and used apple 2es at school since 1984.  But now I have two Amiga 2000s, a 600, and most of a 1200.  I have a platinum apple 2e and an apple 2gs.  I also have a commodore 64c and a 128d (the one with the steel case).  I'm still shopping for the other amiga models and as many upgrades for each of them as I can afford without going crazy.  I'm also interested in an original IBM 5150, 5160, and 5170.  I have plans to hack a modern computer into a 5170 case and a modern slot-loading dvd drive into a commodore 1571 floppy drive case.  It would be nice to play with a PCjr also.  And an apple 2c would be fun.  I also recently bought the first macintoshes i've ever owned.  I have a quadra 700 and a IIfx.  All of my machines work except for the IIfx which just needs an OS installed.  I have nearly every bit of software ever created for the amiga and c64 (in disk image form).  I'm also in the process of collecting mac and 2e/2gs software.  I also have a catweasel board for writing classic floppy disks, although it still doesn't have 2e write support.  My lack of 2e/2gs software has created a chicken/egg problem.  I don't even have appledos or prodos disks.  But there's a way to boot apple 2e machines using this thing called ADT and IN#2.  You literally program the 2e/2gs over the serial cable transferring all of prodos.  But first I need to get the quadra 700 on my network.  Then the fun can begin.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the past could years , I 've really become very interested in classic computing .
I 'm buying all the computers that I lusted over but could n't dream of ever being able to afford .
I had an amiga 500 back in 1988 and used apple 2es at school since 1984 .
But now I have two Amiga 2000s , a 600 , and most of a 1200 .
I have a platinum apple 2e and an apple 2gs .
I also have a commodore 64c and a 128d ( the one with the steel case ) .
I 'm still shopping for the other amiga models and as many upgrades for each of them as I can afford without going crazy .
I 'm also interested in an original IBM 5150 , 5160 , and 5170 .
I have plans to hack a modern computer into a 5170 case and a modern slot-loading dvd drive into a commodore 1571 floppy drive case .
It would be nice to play with a PCjr also .
And an apple 2c would be fun .
I also recently bought the first macintoshes i 've ever owned .
I have a quadra 700 and a IIfx .
All of my machines work except for the IIfx which just needs an OS installed .
I have nearly every bit of software ever created for the amiga and c64 ( in disk image form ) .
I 'm also in the process of collecting mac and 2e/2gs software .
I also have a catweasel board for writing classic floppy disks , although it still does n't have 2e write support .
My lack of 2e/2gs software has created a chicken/egg problem .
I do n't even have appledos or prodos disks .
But there 's a way to boot apple 2e machines using this thing called ADT and IN # 2 .
You literally program the 2e/2gs over the serial cable transferring all of prodos .
But first I need to get the quadra 700 on my network .
Then the fun can begin .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the past could years, I've really become very interested in classic computing.
I'm buying all the computers that I lusted over but couldn't dream of ever being able to afford.
I had an amiga 500 back in 1988 and used apple 2es at school since 1984.
But now I have two Amiga 2000s, a 600, and most of a 1200.
I have a platinum apple 2e and an apple 2gs.
I also have a commodore 64c and a 128d (the one with the steel case).
I'm still shopping for the other amiga models and as many upgrades for each of them as I can afford without going crazy.
I'm also interested in an original IBM 5150, 5160, and 5170.
I have plans to hack a modern computer into a 5170 case and a modern slot-loading dvd drive into a commodore 1571 floppy drive case.
It would be nice to play with a PCjr also.
And an apple 2c would be fun.
I also recently bought the first macintoshes i've ever owned.
I have a quadra 700 and a IIfx.
All of my machines work except for the IIfx which just needs an OS installed.
I have nearly every bit of software ever created for the amiga and c64 (in disk image form).
I'm also in the process of collecting mac and 2e/2gs software.
I also have a catweasel board for writing classic floppy disks, although it still doesn't have 2e write support.
My lack of 2e/2gs software has created a chicken/egg problem.
I don't even have appledos or prodos disks.
But there's a way to boot apple 2e machines using this thing called ADT and IN#2.
You literally program the 2e/2gs over the serial cable transferring all of prodos.
But first I need to get the quadra 700 on my network.
Then the fun can begin.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28142101</id>
	<title>Bunch of Sun eqiupment</title>
	<author>flamingnight</author>
	<datestamp>1243627500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got some old Sun stuff around that still runs - 3 or 4 SPARCstation 1 boxes (1989), an Enterprise Server 250 (mid-90s), Ultra 60/Creator 3D (?). They all work, to some degree but some make better furniture than workstations right now.</p><p>For example, the Ultra 60 is covered with a tablecloth and is a side-table next to my couch. The tower of SPARCstation1 systems is similarly decorated and holds up a lamp. The E250 was mostly used as a heater in old apartments.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got some old Sun stuff around that still runs - 3 or 4 SPARCstation 1 boxes ( 1989 ) , an Enterprise Server 250 ( mid-90s ) , Ultra 60/Creator 3D ( ? ) .
They all work , to some degree but some make better furniture than workstations right now.For example , the Ultra 60 is covered with a tablecloth and is a side-table next to my couch .
The tower of SPARCstation1 systems is similarly decorated and holds up a lamp .
The E250 was mostly used as a heater in old apartments .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got some old Sun stuff around that still runs - 3 or 4 SPARCstation 1 boxes (1989), an Enterprise Server 250 (mid-90s), Ultra 60/Creator 3D (?).
They all work, to some degree but some make better furniture than workstations right now.For example, the Ultra 60 is covered with a tablecloth and is a side-table next to my couch.
The tower of SPARCstation1 systems is similarly decorated and holds up a lamp.
The E250 was mostly used as a heater in old apartments.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129315</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>value\_added</author>
	<datestamp>1243501860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Of course. I have a Trimline phone at my house, and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so.</i></p><p>I remember when the Trimlines phones became available.  They mostly appealed to women.</p><p>Those were the days, of course.  Men were men, women were women, and phones were mechanical devices with rotary dials and bells.  Sigh.  Today, of course, everything is created from miniaturisied electronic components and software.  Hardly surprising we need to use analogies to understand what they are or do.</p><p>Now excuse me while I go back to writing my novel on my Smith Corona wordprocessor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course .
I have a Trimline phone at my house , and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so.I remember when the Trimlines phones became available .
They mostly appealed to women.Those were the days , of course .
Men were men , women were women , and phones were mechanical devices with rotary dials and bells .
Sigh. Today , of course , everything is created from miniaturisied electronic components and software .
Hardly surprising we need to use analogies to understand what they are or do.Now excuse me while I go back to writing my novel on my Smith Corona wordprocessor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course.
I have a Trimline phone at my house, and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so.I remember when the Trimlines phones became available.
They mostly appealed to women.Those were the days, of course.
Men were men, women were women, and phones were mechanical devices with rotary dials and bells.
Sigh.  Today, of course, everything is created from miniaturisied electronic components and software.
Hardly surprising we need to use analogies to understand what they are or do.Now excuse me while I go back to writing my novel on my Smith Corona wordprocessor.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128461</id>
	<title>Re:Back then</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243542360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What, people won't need space heaters in 45 years?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What , people wo n't need space heaters in 45 years ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, people won't need space heaters in 45 years?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28138517</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243610340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and yet you drag that boat anchor behind you everywhere you go?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and yet you drag that boat anchor behind you everywhere you go ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and yet you drag that boat anchor behind you everywhere you go?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28140373</id>
	<title>Curta calculator</title>
	<author>philmck</author>
	<datestamp>1243619940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got a Curta calculator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curta) that's about the same vintage (1964, but earlier models date from 1948) that still works. Does that count?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a Curta calculator ( http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curta ) that 's about the same vintage ( 1964 , but earlier models date from 1948 ) that still works .
Does that count ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a Curta calculator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curta) that's about the same vintage (1964, but earlier models date from 1948) that still works.
Does that count?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28146887</id>
	<title>Whistles... This post is a museum! ...</title>
	<author>freaker\_TuC</author>
	<datestamp>1243615800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm from 1976, I used to be able to whistle back to modems to let them either connect or disconnect.</p><p>Of'course, I couldn't whistle fast enough to get a steady 1200 baud connection,<br>but it sure helps when you needed to reach the other end running a BBS having troubles<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Maybe an idea for Slashdot to ask their users to post photo's of this post, since all that material is connected to the core of all of us. My worst mistake of most of my material to render it inoperative is having it in the basement. I've got dozens of old hardware and software like games (Sierra, Lucasart, Origin,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...) which are probably ready to throw in the dump... It's a shame a basement can ruin a lot like that, even when treated for waterproblems. I've managed to salvage a lot by storing a lot of oldies at my mom. Maybe it'll get hooked up once I'll get to it...</p><p>If electricity still exists that time<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. not being bitter or something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm from 1976 , I used to be able to whistle back to modems to let them either connect or disconnect.Of'course , I could n't whistle fast enough to get a steady 1200 baud connection,but it sure helps when you needed to reach the other end running a BBS having troubles ...Maybe an idea for Slashdot to ask their users to post photo 's of this post , since all that material is connected to the core of all of us .
My worst mistake of most of my material to render it inoperative is having it in the basement .
I 've got dozens of old hardware and software like games ( Sierra , Lucasart , Origin , ... ) which are probably ready to throw in the dump... It 's a shame a basement can ruin a lot like that , even when treated for waterproblems .
I 've managed to salvage a lot by storing a lot of oldies at my mom .
Maybe it 'll get hooked up once I 'll get to it...If electricity still exists that time .. not being bitter or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm from 1976, I used to be able to whistle back to modems to let them either connect or disconnect.Of'course, I couldn't whistle fast enough to get a steady 1200 baud connection,but it sure helps when you needed to reach the other end running a BBS having troubles ...Maybe an idea for Slashdot to ask their users to post photo's of this post, since all that material is connected to the core of all of us.
My worst mistake of most of my material to render it inoperative is having it in the basement.
I've got dozens of old hardware and software like games (Sierra, Lucasart, Origin, ...) which are probably ready to throw in the dump... It's a shame a basement can ruin a lot like that, even when treated for waterproblems.
I've managed to salvage a lot by storing a lot of oldies at my mom.
Maybe it'll get hooked up once I'll get to it...If electricity still exists that time .. not being bitter or something.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128577</id>
	<title>Re:Back then</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1243542600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And any equipment not built to last is dead, which leaves a rather "built to last"-heavy pool, doesn't it?<br> <br>

Your point on the GTX280 is likely valid, though. Flash RAM has a lot of perks; but its stated retention time tends to be around a decade(actual retention time shorter, I suspect, in a great many cases. Probably longer from time to time). <i>Anything</i> that will let you reflash its firmware is at a substantial risk of succumbing to bit rot in the not so distant future. Assuming you have firmware backups and some reflashing skills, that might not be an issue; but it sure won't be out of the box functional.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And any equipment not built to last is dead , which leaves a rather " built to last " -heavy pool , does n't it ?
Your point on the GTX280 is likely valid , though .
Flash RAM has a lot of perks ; but its stated retention time tends to be around a decade ( actual retention time shorter , I suspect , in a great many cases .
Probably longer from time to time ) .
Anything that will let you reflash its firmware is at a substantial risk of succumbing to bit rot in the not so distant future .
Assuming you have firmware backups and some reflashing skills , that might not be an issue ; but it sure wo n't be out of the box functional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And any equipment not built to last is dead, which leaves a rather "built to last"-heavy pool, doesn't it?
Your point on the GTX280 is likely valid, though.
Flash RAM has a lot of perks; but its stated retention time tends to be around a decade(actual retention time shorter, I suspect, in a great many cases.
Probably longer from time to time).
Anything that will let you reflash its firmware is at a substantial risk of succumbing to bit rot in the not so distant future.
Assuming you have firmware backups and some reflashing skills, that might not be an issue; but it sure won't be out of the box functional.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128305</id>
	<title>Re:Old</title>
	<author>goldaryn</author>
	<datestamp>1243541940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; There's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer. I figure it's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old.<br> <br>
Me too.. makes it hard to RTFM doesn't it..</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; There 's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer .
I figure it 's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old .
Me too.. makes it hard to RTFM does n't it. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; There's this rock I use as a paperweight next to my computer.
I figure it's anywhere between 100 million and 2 billion years old.
Me too.. makes it hard to RTFM doesn't it..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134309</id>
	<title>Clovis- oldest operational equipment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243527840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a practicing flintknapper, I can tell you a cut from a stone flake, conchoidally fractured of course, hurts more appreciably than a steel razor shaving cut, unless the steel is first passed through A LIME into your little finger.</p><p>Which came first: the clovis point or the Lime?</p><p>ob1</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a practicing flintknapper , I can tell you a cut from a stone flake , conchoidally fractured of course , hurts more appreciably than a steel razor shaving cut , unless the steel is first passed through A LIME into your little finger.Which came first : the clovis point or the Lime ? ob1</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a practicing flintknapper, I can tell you a cut from a stone flake, conchoidally fractured of course, hurts more appreciably than a steel razor shaving cut, unless the steel is first passed through A LIME into your little finger.Which came first: the clovis point or the Lime?ob1</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28138423</id>
	<title>HP Printers</title>
	<author>Life2Death</author>
	<datestamp>1243609980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think the oldest crap I have is a still in use HP LaserJet IIId purchased around the time when I was born, and an early 80's HP Pen Plotter that also still works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the oldest crap I have is a still in use HP LaserJet IIId purchased around the time when I was born , and an early 80 's HP Pen Plotter that also still works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the oldest crap I have is a still in use HP LaserJet IIId purchased around the time when I was born, and an early 80's HP Pen Plotter that also still works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131937</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1243513260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amiga 1000 was better. The horrible ones were the Amiga 500 series.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amiga 1000 was better .
The horrible ones were the Amiga 500 series .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amiga 1000 was better.
The horrible ones were the Amiga 500 series.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127707</id>
	<title>Just decommisioned...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... an old VAX machine from the mid-80's. We have several large spool tape drives around too, but I'm not sure they still work. Personally my wife made me throw out most of my old stuff, though I have several old floppies from my Apple II from the early 80's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... an old VAX machine from the mid-80 's .
We have several large spool tape drives around too , but I 'm not sure they still work .
Personally my wife made me throw out most of my old stuff , though I have several old floppies from my Apple II from the early 80 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... an old VAX machine from the mid-80's.
We have several large spool tape drives around too, but I'm not sure they still work.
Personally my wife made me throw out most of my old stuff, though I have several old floppies from my Apple II from the early 80's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127593</id>
	<title>How Old Is My Crap: Mac ][ci</title>
	<author>cmholm</author>
	<datestamp>1243539960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we're gonna get into a how-old-is-my-crap thread: my oldest working gear is a 1989 Mac ][ci running NetBSD that I periodically haul out of the closet to use as a testbed within my private network. Used to be my dad's photoshop box, then handed down to my wife, and finally into my grubby paws. Its small, easy to store, boxy shape has saved it from her annual pogroms against old gear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we 're gon na get into a how-old-is-my-crap thread : my oldest working gear is a 1989 Mac ] [ ci running NetBSD that I periodically haul out of the closet to use as a testbed within my private network .
Used to be my dad 's photoshop box , then handed down to my wife , and finally into my grubby paws .
Its small , easy to store , boxy shape has saved it from her annual pogroms against old gear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we're gonna get into a how-old-is-my-crap thread: my oldest working gear is a 1989 Mac ][ci running NetBSD that I periodically haul out of the closet to use as a testbed within my private network.
Used to be my dad's photoshop box, then handed down to my wife, and finally into my grubby paws.
Its small, easy to store, boxy shape has saved it from her annual pogroms against old gear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131327</id>
	<title>Ok I'll play.</title>
	<author>sparkeyjames</author>
	<datestamp>1243510260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Commodore 64 that still works. Also an Amiga 1000 and an Amiga 2000 in working order. All three are currently in storage in my garage. The place were I work has a Intel 286 or 386 (not sure which) server running a custom pricing program under some ancient version of Novell Netware. It has a 25MB (yes megabyte) RLL 5.25 inch hard drive in it and token ring through a coax to a satellite driveless workstation which loads up the OS from the server and runs the pricing program remotely. Runs every day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Commodore 64 that still works .
Also an Amiga 1000 and an Amiga 2000 in working order .
All three are currently in storage in my garage .
The place were I work has a Intel 286 or 386 ( not sure which ) server running a custom pricing program under some ancient version of Novell Netware .
It has a 25MB ( yes megabyte ) RLL 5.25 inch hard drive in it and token ring through a coax to a satellite driveless workstation which loads up the OS from the server and runs the pricing program remotely .
Runs every day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Commodore 64 that still works.
Also an Amiga 1000 and an Amiga 2000 in working order.
All three are currently in storage in my garage.
The place were I work has a Intel 286 or 386 (not sure which) server running a custom pricing program under some ancient version of Novell Netware.
It has a 25MB (yes megabyte) RLL 5.25 inch hard drive in it and token ring through a coax to a satellite driveless workstation which loads up the OS from the server and runs the pricing program remotely.
Runs every day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127687</id>
	<title>More cool stuff today...a hand-wired computer also</title>
	<author>thomasdz</author>
	<datestamp>1243540200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Back before the days of the 4004, 8008, and 8080, when we built computers, we REALLY built computers.<br>None of this take a pre-built-motherboard, add a pre-built-power-supply, add a pre-built graphics card...</p><p>A great example: <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/homebrewed-cpu/" title="wired.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/homebrewed-cpu/</a> [wired.com]</p><p>oblig: get off my lawn</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Back before the days of the 4004 , 8008 , and 8080 , when we built computers , we REALLY built computers.None of this take a pre-built-motherboard , add a pre-built-power-supply , add a pre-built graphics card...A great example : http : //www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/homebrewed-cpu/ [ wired.com ] oblig : get off my lawn</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Back before the days of the 4004, 8008, and 8080, when we built computers, we REALLY built computers.None of this take a pre-built-motherboard, add a pre-built-power-supply, add a pre-built graphics card...A great example: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/05/homebrewed-cpu/ [wired.com]oblig: get off my lawn</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127783</id>
	<title>IBM PCjr circa 1984</title>
	<author>ground.zero.612</author>
	<datestamp>1243540560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It has a whopping 128k of expanded memory (I think it originally came with 64k), a 5.25" floppy drive, and 2 ROM expansion ports. It was my first computer with a wireless keyboard that uses IR and runs on AA batteries.

Still boots, though the floppy drive is a bit loud by today's standards heh. The monitor is a tad blurry as well but still very legible.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It has a whopping 128k of expanded memory ( I think it originally came with 64k ) , a 5.25 " floppy drive , and 2 ROM expansion ports .
It was my first computer with a wireless keyboard that uses IR and runs on AA batteries .
Still boots , though the floppy drive is a bit loud by today 's standards heh .
The monitor is a tad blurry as well but still very legible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has a whopping 128k of expanded memory (I think it originally came with 64k), a 5.25" floppy drive, and 2 ROM expansion ports.
It was my first computer with a wireless keyboard that uses IR and runs on AA batteries.
Still boots, though the floppy drive is a bit loud by today's standards heh.
The monitor is a tad blurry as well but still very legible.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127509</id>
	<title>oldest pieces?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?</p></div><p>Well as far as modem technology goes I've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem; must be from the early 80s I would guess (perhaps older?); it was working fine when I stopped using it around 1993 or so (upgraded to 2400 baud FTW!!)*<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I'm sure it would still work if I plugged it in today but I'm not hunting down an RS-232 adapter to find out.  If we want to talk audio gear I've got some much older items, including a pair of AR speakers from the 60s that still sound pretty damn good...  Now get the hell off my lawn!</p><p>* (and back then FTW still meant Fuck the World!!)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The question I have , is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there ? Well as far as modem technology goes I 've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem ; must be from the early 80s I would guess ( perhaps older ?
) ; it was working fine when I stopped using it around 1993 or so ( upgraded to 2400 baud FTW ! !
) * ... I 'm sure it would still work if I plugged it in today but I 'm not hunting down an RS-232 adapter to find out .
If we want to talk audio gear I 've got some much older items , including a pair of AR speakers from the 60s that still sound pretty damn good... Now get the hell off my lawn !
* ( and back then FTW still meant Fuck the World ! !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?Well as far as modem technology goes I've still got a classic 1200 baud Hayes modem; must be from the early 80s I would guess (perhaps older?
); it was working fine when I stopped using it around 1993 or so (upgraded to 2400 baud FTW!!
)* ... I'm sure it would still work if I plugged it in today but I'm not hunting down an RS-232 adapter to find out.
If we want to talk audio gear I've got some much older items, including a pair of AR speakers from the 60s that still sound pretty damn good...  Now get the hell off my lawn!
* (and back then FTW still meant Fuck the World!!
)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128339</id>
	<title>Pedant alert</title>
	<author>Dice</author>
	<datestamp>1243542000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He isn't really surfing with the modem.  He's running a terminal over the modem and displaying the rendered page as fetched by the remote server running lynx.  This is less bandwidth intensive than the actual browsing would be, which is amusing to think of given how slow even drawing the screen was over that link.</p><p>Just the HTML for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/</a> [wikipedia.org] is 57K.  That would take approx 30min to transfer over a 300 baud link.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He is n't really surfing with the modem .
He 's running a terminal over the modem and displaying the rendered page as fetched by the remote server running lynx .
This is less bandwidth intensive than the actual browsing would be , which is amusing to think of given how slow even drawing the screen was over that link.Just the HTML for http : //en.wikipedia.org/ [ wikipedia.org ] is 57K .
That would take approx 30min to transfer over a 300 baud link .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He isn't really surfing with the modem.
He's running a terminal over the modem and displaying the rendered page as fetched by the remote server running lynx.
This is less bandwidth intensive than the actual browsing would be, which is amusing to think of given how slow even drawing the screen was over that link.Just the HTML for http://en.wikipedia.org/ [wikipedia.org] is 57K.
That would take approx 30min to transfer over a 300 baud link.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131143</id>
	<title>Re:Atari Baby</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243509240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only authentic DK is the arcade at Twin Galaxies.  Played by ME.</p><p>-Billy Mitchell<br>Buy my hawt sauce.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only authentic DK is the arcade at Twin Galaxies .
Played by ME.-Billy MitchellBuy my hawt sauce .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only authentic DK is the arcade at Twin Galaxies.
Played by ME.-Billy MitchellBuy my hawt sauce.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127457</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130849</id>
	<title>CPM Card for the Apple IIe made by Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243508040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still have a CPM card for the Apple IIe made by a little company known as Microsoft.  The logo on the manual is nothing like the normal Microsoft logo that we all now know.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have a CPM card for the Apple IIe made by a little company known as Microsoft .
The logo on the manual is nothing like the normal Microsoft logo that we all now know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have a CPM card for the Apple IIe made by a little company known as Microsoft.
The logo on the manual is nothing like the normal Microsoft logo that we all now know.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131749</id>
	<title>My old stuff</title>
	<author>spaceyhackerlady</author>
	<datestamp>1243512360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Computer stuff: a couple of Sun Ultra 5 workstations. It's not that long ago that I ditched my IBM PS/2-25,
bought brand new in 1987. While it was useless for anything real by then, it lived on for a long time
running cross-assemblers for
PIC microcontrollers.</p><p>Other tech stuff: Collins 51J-4 radio, circa 1957 (low serial number). Works. Various Kodak cameras, mid-1930s. They work too.</p><p>...laura</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Computer stuff : a couple of Sun Ultra 5 workstations .
It 's not that long ago that I ditched my IBM PS/2-25 , bought brand new in 1987 .
While it was useless for anything real by then , it lived on for a long time running cross-assemblers for PIC microcontrollers.Other tech stuff : Collins 51J-4 radio , circa 1957 ( low serial number ) .
Works. Various Kodak cameras , mid-1930s .
They work too....laura</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computer stuff: a couple of Sun Ultra 5 workstations.
It's not that long ago that I ditched my IBM PS/2-25,
bought brand new in 1987.
While it was useless for anything real by then, it lived on for a long time
running cross-assemblers for
PIC microcontrollers.Other tech stuff: Collins 51J-4 radio, circa 1957 (low serial number).
Works. Various Kodak cameras, mid-1930s.
They work too....laura</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127497</id>
	<title>Token Ring out in the field...</title>
	<author>creimer</author>
	<datestamp>1243539720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I had a one-night tech job a few years ago where a major financial institution was switching the network from Token Ring to Ethernet, even though all the workstations came equipped with built-in Ethernet and the building was wired for Ethernet. I made extra money that night because the younger, non-certified techs couldn't read the directions on the worksheet.  They plugged the Ethernet cable into the Token Ring NIC card (which supported two cable types) and didn't run the network utility to see if the connection worked. The hardest part of that job was finding a taxi cab to take home at 3:00AM.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a one-night tech job a few years ago where a major financial institution was switching the network from Token Ring to Ethernet , even though all the workstations came equipped with built-in Ethernet and the building was wired for Ethernet .
I made extra money that night because the younger , non-certified techs could n't read the directions on the worksheet .
They plugged the Ethernet cable into the Token Ring NIC card ( which supported two cable types ) and did n't run the network utility to see if the connection worked .
The hardest part of that job was finding a taxi cab to take home at 3 : 00AM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a one-night tech job a few years ago where a major financial institution was switching the network from Token Ring to Ethernet, even though all the workstations came equipped with built-in Ethernet and the building was wired for Ethernet.
I made extra money that night because the younger, non-certified techs couldn't read the directions on the worksheet.
They plugged the Ethernet cable into the Token Ring NIC card (which supported two cable types) and didn't run the network utility to see if the connection worked.
The hardest part of that job was finding a taxi cab to take home at 3:00AM.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130233</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243505340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use one manufactured in 1989 and that has had just a single-owner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use one manufactured in 1989 and that has had just a single-owner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use one manufactured in 1989 and that has had just a single-owner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129175</id>
	<title>SWTPC 6800</title>
	<author>bored</author>
	<datestamp>1243501320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I restored a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWTPC" title="wikipedia.org">Southwest Technical Products</a> [wikipedia.org] machine back in 1998 that is still running. That's from 1975 and is my oldest machine. I also have an Apple ][+ (1977) with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple\_ProFile" title="wikipedia.org">ProFile hard drive</a> [wikipedia.org] that I recently got working. That is from around 1981. Mine is a 5M version. I don't know the exact manufacturing date on the HD, I suspect that it was closer to 1983. I also have an old acoustic coupled modem. It doesn't work, but I will probably fix it at some point. My oldest PC is an old XT clone with a real 8086, from the late 80's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I restored a Southwest Technical Products [ wikipedia.org ] machine back in 1998 that is still running .
That 's from 1975 and is my oldest machine .
I also have an Apple ] [ + ( 1977 ) with a ProFile hard drive [ wikipedia.org ] that I recently got working .
That is from around 1981 .
Mine is a 5M version .
I do n't know the exact manufacturing date on the HD , I suspect that it was closer to 1983 .
I also have an old acoustic coupled modem .
It does n't work , but I will probably fix it at some point .
My oldest PC is an old XT clone with a real 8086 , from the late 80 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I restored a Southwest Technical Products [wikipedia.org] machine back in 1998 that is still running.
That's from 1975 and is my oldest machine.
I also have an Apple ][+ (1977) with a ProFile hard drive [wikipedia.org] that I recently got working.
That is from around 1981.
Mine is a 5M version.
I don't know the exact manufacturing date on the HD, I suspect that it was closer to 1983.
I also have an old acoustic coupled modem.
It doesn't work, but I will probably fix it at some point.
My oldest PC is an old XT clone with a real 8086, from the late 80's.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28135699</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>digitalchinky</author>
	<datestamp>1243628940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wasn't wealthy enough for the heady delights of an Apple IIe or a Vic20, I had to make do with a Mattel Aquarius computer. (Purchased in 1983) It still works, but it's still as useless today as it was in 1983.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was n't wealthy enough for the heady delights of an Apple IIe or a Vic20 , I had to make do with a Mattel Aquarius computer .
( Purchased in 1983 ) It still works , but it 's still as useless today as it was in 1983 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wasn't wealthy enough for the heady delights of an Apple IIe or a Vic20, I had to make do with a Mattel Aquarius computer.
(Purchased in 1983) It still works, but it's still as useless today as it was in 1983.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128155</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28145965</id>
	<title>WWII radio, Pong, calculator, IBM stuff</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1243604580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a couple things. My grandfather was a radioman in WWII and he somehow came upon two German field radios. I think they're the same as the one in <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/World-War-II-RARE-VINTAGE-Field-Radio-Mix-Genest-L-K\_W0QQitemZ200346490645QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH\_DefaultDomain\_0?hash=item2ea594d715&amp;\_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&amp;\_trkparms=72\%3A1240\%7C66\%3A2\%7C65\%3A12\%7C39\%3A1\%7C240\%3A1318\%7C301\%3A1\%7C293\%3A1\%7C294\%3A50" title="ebay.com">this</a> [ebay.com] auction.</p><p>I've got an old Pong console (ie, of the gaming variety) that my dad got for his 15th birthday - that'd have been in 1974. It wasn't an official Pong console, which didn't come out until the following year, but a knock-off.</p><p>I've got (at my parents' house) a massive TI calculator with a solar panel on it. Probably one of the originals, don't remember the brand. That's got to be at least 35 years old, and it's got all the functionality of those novelty "wallet calculators" that companies will sometimes use as business cards.</p><p>I've also got a fair collection of old IBM hardware. First on the list is an IBM Personal Portable Computer (IBM Portable PC 5155), circa 1984. It still works, to the exception of one of the two floppy drives, as far as I know (I've not had a 5.25" floppy for over a decade.) It's got an old (can't even remember the interface) 10Mb hard drive which also still works. I've thought of getting Linux to run on there several times, just for S&amp;G, but never got around to it due to lacking a proper interface card or an easy way to get it on there.</p><p>And then there's the pile of a dozen or so IBM Model M keyboards, dating from 1980 through 1992. Yes, 1980. Maybe it wasn't technically a model M (according to wiki, the Model M came out in 1984), but the ones I've got from 1980 and 1981 are identical and part compatible, as near as I can tell, with the post-1984 "Model M" keyboards which are marked as such on the back.</p><p>I also have my original NES, which was mid-1980s. Hardly old, but there you have it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a couple things .
My grandfather was a radioman in WWII and he somehow came upon two German field radios .
I think they 're the same as the one in this [ ebay.com ] auction.I 've got an old Pong console ( ie , of the gaming variety ) that my dad got for his 15th birthday - that 'd have been in 1974 .
It was n't an official Pong console , which did n't come out until the following year , but a knock-off.I 've got ( at my parents ' house ) a massive TI calculator with a solar panel on it .
Probably one of the originals , do n't remember the brand .
That 's got to be at least 35 years old , and it 's got all the functionality of those novelty " wallet calculators " that companies will sometimes use as business cards.I 've also got a fair collection of old IBM hardware .
First on the list is an IBM Personal Portable Computer ( IBM Portable PC 5155 ) , circa 1984 .
It still works , to the exception of one of the two floppy drives , as far as I know ( I 've not had a 5.25 " floppy for over a decade .
) It 's got an old ( ca n't even remember the interface ) 10Mb hard drive which also still works .
I 've thought of getting Linux to run on there several times , just for S&amp;G , but never got around to it due to lacking a proper interface card or an easy way to get it on there.And then there 's the pile of a dozen or so IBM Model M keyboards , dating from 1980 through 1992 .
Yes , 1980 .
Maybe it was n't technically a model M ( according to wiki , the Model M came out in 1984 ) , but the ones I 've got from 1980 and 1981 are identical and part compatible , as near as I can tell , with the post-1984 " Model M " keyboards which are marked as such on the back.I also have my original NES , which was mid-1980s .
Hardly old , but there you have it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a couple things.
My grandfather was a radioman in WWII and he somehow came upon two German field radios.
I think they're the same as the one in this [ebay.com] auction.I've got an old Pong console (ie, of the gaming variety) that my dad got for his 15th birthday - that'd have been in 1974.
It wasn't an official Pong console, which didn't come out until the following year, but a knock-off.I've got (at my parents' house) a massive TI calculator with a solar panel on it.
Probably one of the originals, don't remember the brand.
That's got to be at least 35 years old, and it's got all the functionality of those novelty "wallet calculators" that companies will sometimes use as business cards.I've also got a fair collection of old IBM hardware.
First on the list is an IBM Personal Portable Computer (IBM Portable PC 5155), circa 1984.
It still works, to the exception of one of the two floppy drives, as far as I know (I've not had a 5.25" floppy for over a decade.
) It's got an old (can't even remember the interface) 10Mb hard drive which also still works.
I've thought of getting Linux to run on there several times, just for S&amp;G, but never got around to it due to lacking a proper interface card or an easy way to get it on there.And then there's the pile of a dozen or so IBM Model M keyboards, dating from 1980 through 1992.
Yes, 1980.
Maybe it wasn't technically a model M (according to wiki, the Model M came out in 1984), but the ones I've got from 1980 and 1981 are identical and part compatible, as near as I can tell, with the post-1984 "Model M" keyboards which are marked as such on the back.I also have my original NES, which was mid-1980s.
Hardly old, but there you have it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128409</id>
	<title>1916 I-Pod</title>
	<author>JoeMerchant</author>
	<datestamp>1243542180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have inherited my Great Grandfather's Victrola - wind up spring to spin the 78RPM discs, friction lever to control the speed, pickup through replaceable sharp steel needles that drive a speaker plate that resonates out through a cabinet with a slide-door volume control.  If you take it with you jogging you'll get a tremendous total body workout, though you might need more than an armband to carry it.<br> <br>

Of course, it won't play modern media, but neither will your modern audio gear play the classic 78RPM cut of "Digga-digga-do".</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have inherited my Great Grandfather 's Victrola - wind up spring to spin the 78RPM discs , friction lever to control the speed , pickup through replaceable sharp steel needles that drive a speaker plate that resonates out through a cabinet with a slide-door volume control .
If you take it with you jogging you 'll get a tremendous total body workout , though you might need more than an armband to carry it .
Of course , it wo n't play modern media , but neither will your modern audio gear play the classic 78RPM cut of " Digga-digga-do " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have inherited my Great Grandfather's Victrola - wind up spring to spin the 78RPM discs, friction lever to control the speed, pickup through replaceable sharp steel needles that drive a speaker plate that resonates out through a cabinet with a slide-door volume control.
If you take it with you jogging you'll get a tremendous total body workout, though you might need more than an armband to carry it.
Of course, it won't play modern media, but neither will your modern audio gear play the classic 78RPM cut of "Digga-digga-do".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127397</id>
	<title>oldest piece of "equipment"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>is just as old as I am... I just needed a long time to know how to work it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>is just as old as I am... I just needed a long time to know how to work it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is just as old as I am... I just needed a long time to know how to work it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129605</id>
	<title>Sinclair ZX80</title>
	<author>backtick</author>
	<datestamp>1243502760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Guess this puts my family in the computer era of 1981 or so. Yup, I'm a geek. It still works. Gave away the TI-99/4a, the C64, and the Original Nintendo, plus the Amiga, the Vic, the TRS80 model 1 and 2s, etc over the years, all working. The C64 is still in use by my boss for giggles for his kids<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Guess this puts my family in the computer era of 1981 or so .
Yup , I 'm a geek .
It still works .
Gave away the TI-99/4a , the C64 , and the Original Nintendo , plus the Amiga , the Vic , the TRS80 model 1 and 2s , etc over the years , all working .
The C64 is still in use by my boss for giggles for his kids : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Guess this puts my family in the computer era of 1981 or so.
Yup, I'm a geek.
It still works.
Gave away the TI-99/4a, the C64, and the Original Nintendo, plus the Amiga, the Vic, the TRS80 model 1 and 2s, etc over the years, all working.
The C64 is still in use by my boss for giggles for his kids :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128831</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243543440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No need to weep.  They still make 'em:  http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net//</p><p>They can have my model M when they pry it...  well, you know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No need to weep .
They still make 'em : http : //pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net//They can have my model M when they pry it... well , you know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No need to weep.
They still make 'em:  http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net//They can have my model M when they pry it...  well, you know.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128313</id>
	<title>Still use a VCR bought my freshman year...1991</title>
	<author>axl917</author>
	<datestamp>1243541940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An Emerson that has chugged along reasonably well...a few of the buttons got cracked pushed into the unit, and it flips out and blinks repeatedly if a tape is ever ejected for more than 5-6 seconds.  But it still records just fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An Emerson that has chugged along reasonably well...a few of the buttons got cracked pushed into the unit , and it flips out and blinks repeatedly if a tape is ever ejected for more than 5-6 seconds .
But it still records just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An Emerson that has chugged along reasonably well...a few of the buttons got cracked pushed into the unit, and it flips out and blinks repeatedly if a tape is ever ejected for more than 5-6 seconds.
But it still records just fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128203</id>
	<title>Sparc10</title>
	<author>Anisity</author>
	<datestamp>1243541700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>SUN SparcStation 10.... still working, last used as a router. Circa 1992, so about 17 years old.</htmltext>
<tokenext>SUN SparcStation 10.... still working , last used as a router .
Circa 1992 , so about 17 years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SUN SparcStation 10.... still working, last used as a router.
Circa 1992, so about 17 years old.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129037</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243544100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.<br>It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.</p></div></blockquote><p>You keep a 50 year old scope in your CAR!!! and it still works!? Now there is a testament to the old HP engineering quality. (pre Agilent split) Better yet, open that sucker up and tell us who made the tubes and crt. That is amazing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works , but I 've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.You keep a 50 year old scope in your CAR ! ! !
and it still works ! ?
Now there is a testament to the old HP engineering quality .
( pre Agilent split ) Better yet , open that sucker up and tell us who made the tubes and crt .
That is amazing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.You keep a 50 year old scope in your CAR!!!
and it still works!?
Now there is a testament to the old HP engineering quality.
(pre Agilent split) Better yet, open that sucker up and tell us who made the tubes and crt.
That is amazing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129355</id>
	<title>You can STILL rent a Bell System phone!</title>
	<author>rickthewizkid</author>
	<datestamp>1243501920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...from a company that was spun off of AT&amp;T back in 1984. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer\_Phone\_Services" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer\_Phone\_Services</a> [wikipedia.org]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and yes, I still have one in my basement!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...from a company that was spun off of AT&amp;T back in 1984. http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer \ _Phone \ _Services [ wikipedia.org ] ...and yes , I still have one in my basement !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...from a company that was spun off of AT&amp;T back in 1984. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer\_Phone\_Services [wikipedia.org] ...and yes, I still have one in my basement!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127801</id>
	<title>OS/2 box</title>
	<author>jroesner</author>
	<datestamp>1243540560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still have my 1995 era OS/2 box I built.  Some of the components go back to 93 or so.  I paid an obscene amount in 1996 for the 2.1GB Micropolis SCSI drive in there.  Hands down the best component in the thing is the STB 4Com 4 port serial card.  With it's myriad of jumpers to set I was amazed it worked right the first time...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have my 1995 era OS/2 box I built .
Some of the components go back to 93 or so .
I paid an obscene amount in 1996 for the 2.1GB Micropolis SCSI drive in there .
Hands down the best component in the thing is the STB 4Com 4 port serial card .
With it 's myriad of jumpers to set I was amazed it worked right the first time.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have my 1995 era OS/2 box I built.
Some of the components go back to 93 or so.
I paid an obscene amount in 1996 for the 2.1GB Micropolis SCSI drive in there.
Hands down the best component in the thing is the STB 4Com 4 port serial card.
With it's myriad of jumpers to set I was amazed it worked right the first time...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130391</id>
	<title>Oldest Car Amplifers in Use</title>
	<author>Timtimes</author>
	<datestamp>1243505880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm claiming that I have the oldest operational car amplifiers until I find somebody who can best me.

Two Kenwood power amps.  Circa late 70's, early 80's.  Model#  KAC-7020 and KAC-8200

Details:

<a href="http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1111037" title="avsforum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1111037</a> [avsforum.com]

Enjoy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm claiming that I have the oldest operational car amplifiers until I find somebody who can best me .
Two Kenwood power amps .
Circa late 70 's , early 80 's .
Model # KAC-7020 and KAC-8200 Details : http : //www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php ? t = 1111037 [ avsforum.com ] Enjoy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm claiming that I have the oldest operational car amplifiers until I find somebody who can best me.
Two Kenwood power amps.
Circa late 70's, early 80's.
Model#  KAC-7020 and KAC-8200

Details:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1111037 [avsforum.com]

Enjoy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127457</id>
	<title>Atari Baby</title>
	<author>Astroturtle</author>
	<datestamp>1243539600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an Atari 400 I still drag out from time to time when I get an itch to play the "definitive" (to me at least!) versions of Pac-Man, Donkey Kong and Defender. Bought as a Xmas present when I was 9 which puts it at 28 years old.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)

I also still have my old Apple ][ bought 4 years later with the "CP/M card" and a 300 baud modem. Hmm... I think I'm going to have to some surfing tonight!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)

astroturtle</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an Atari 400 I still drag out from time to time when I get an itch to play the " definitive " ( to me at least !
) versions of Pac-Man , Donkey Kong and Defender .
Bought as a Xmas present when I was 9 which puts it at 28 years old .
: ) I also still have my old Apple ] [ bought 4 years later with the " CP/M card " and a 300 baud modem .
Hmm... I think I 'm going to have to some surfing tonight !
; ) astroturtle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an Atari 400 I still drag out from time to time when I get an itch to play the "definitive" (to me at least!
) versions of Pac-Man, Donkey Kong and Defender.
Bought as a Xmas present when I was 9 which puts it at 28 years old.
:)

I also still have my old Apple ][ bought 4 years later with the "CP/M card" and a 300 baud modem.
Hmm... I think I'm going to have to some surfing tonight!
;)

astroturtle</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128389</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>altek</author>
	<datestamp>1243542120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Same here.  I actually don't use it daily, but will bust it out and use it for a few weeks at a time when I get the urge.  Back in the late nineties I came across a PS/2 one, so I promptly swapped it out for my old AT one.  With PS/2 to USB adapters, I'm set<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Same here .
I actually do n't use it daily , but will bust it out and use it for a few weeks at a time when I get the urge .
Back in the late nineties I came across a PS/2 one , so I promptly swapped it out for my old AT one .
With PS/2 to USB adapters , I 'm set : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Same here.
I actually don't use it daily, but will bust it out and use it for a few weeks at a time when I get the urge.
Back in the late nineties I came across a PS/2 one, so I promptly swapped it out for my old AT one.
With PS/2 to USB adapters, I'm set :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131147</id>
	<title>Sinclair ZX80 circa 1981</title>
	<author>GumphMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1243509240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the computing line the oldest working piece I have is a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair\_ZX80" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Sinclair ZX80</a> [wikipedia.org] circa 1981.
Still working, but I have had to replace the Z-80 CPU on one occasion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the computing line the oldest working piece I have is a Sinclair ZX80 [ wikipedia.org ] circa 1981 .
Still working , but I have had to replace the Z-80 CPU on one occasion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the computing line the oldest working piece I have is a Sinclair ZX80 [wikipedia.org] circa 1981.
Still working, but I have had to replace the Z-80 CPU on one occasion.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130017</id>
	<title>Atari ST, but can't get Ethernet for it</title>
	<author>Sleepy</author>
	<datestamp>1243504500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've had older (Atari 1200XL 64K w/300 baud modem), but I still have a pristine Atari 520ST 1MB with a 19.2K modem.</p><p>I know I can get the ST on the 'net using a SLIP or PLIP route (hosted off a Linux box), but what I really want for it is an Ethernet adapter, but I can't find one. There's a myriad of dead-link ST hardware pages, but no clear path as to what hardware and software can be used.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had older ( Atari 1200XL 64K w/300 baud modem ) , but I still have a pristine Atari 520ST 1MB with a 19.2K modem.I know I can get the ST on the 'net using a SLIP or PLIP route ( hosted off a Linux box ) , but what I really want for it is an Ethernet adapter , but I ca n't find one .
There 's a myriad of dead-link ST hardware pages , but no clear path as to what hardware and software can be used .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had older (Atari 1200XL 64K w/300 baud modem), but I still have a pristine Atari 520ST 1MB with a 19.2K modem.I know I can get the ST on the 'net using a SLIP or PLIP route (hosted off a Linux box), but what I really want for it is an Ethernet adapter, but I can't find one.
There's a myriad of dead-link ST hardware pages, but no clear path as to what hardware and software can be used.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129695</id>
	<title>Younger techie here...</title>
	<author>NeoSkandranon</author>
	<datestamp>1243503060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Original NES, and a Gameboy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Original NES , and a Gameboy : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Original NES, and a Gameboy :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136337</id>
	<title>DOS1.1</title>
	<author>kandela</author>
	<datestamp>1243593840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a 5.25" Floppy in storage with a copy of DOS1.1 on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 5.25 " Floppy in storage with a copy of DOS1.1 on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 5.25" Floppy in storage with a copy of DOS1.1 on it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130749</id>
	<title>Re:"Would you like to play a game?"</title>
	<author>michrech</author>
	<datestamp>1243507620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, then, you didn't "break in" to anything.  You accidentally dialed a number that happened to belong to the military.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , then , you did n't " break in " to anything .
You accidentally dialed a number that happened to belong to the military .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, then, you didn't "break in" to anything.
You accidentally dialed a number that happened to belong to the military.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128009</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129989</id>
	<title>Epson 8088</title>
	<author>LeftNose</author>
	<datestamp>1243504440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an Epson 8088 with a 20MB hard drive and CGA graphics.  I'm pretty sure its modem is 2400 baud but that was a latter addition.  It still makes an excellent Frogger machine.</p><p>I would have to think it's about 20 years old but it was a gift from my parents to my sister and me for Christmas and I have no recollection of what year that was.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an Epson 8088 with a 20MB hard drive and CGA graphics .
I 'm pretty sure its modem is 2400 baud but that was a latter addition .
It still makes an excellent Frogger machine.I would have to think it 's about 20 years old but it was a gift from my parents to my sister and me for Christmas and I have no recollection of what year that was .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an Epson 8088 with a 20MB hard drive and CGA graphics.
I'm pretty sure its modem is 2400 baud but that was a latter addition.
It still makes an excellent Frogger machine.I would have to think it's about 20 years old but it was a gift from my parents to my sister and me for Christmas and I have no recollection of what year that was.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</id>
	<title>Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>mgbastard</author>
	<datestamp>1243539540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't really use it anymore, but I have a TRS-80 Model IV and it works. I haven't used the modem in a long time. That's only about 26 years old though.

The PowerBook 165c also works, and that's from 1993, making it 16 years old. Bonus for the SCSI ethernet adapter.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't really use it anymore , but I have a TRS-80 Model IV and it works .
I have n't used the modem in a long time .
That 's only about 26 years old though .
The PowerBook 165c also works , and that 's from 1993 , making it 16 years old .
Bonus for the SCSI ethernet adapter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't really use it anymore, but I have a TRS-80 Model IV and it works.
I haven't used the modem in a long time.
That's only about 26 years old though.
The PowerBook 165c also works, and that's from 1993, making it 16 years old.
Bonus for the SCSI ethernet adapter.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133471</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>Skater</author>
	<datestamp>1243521840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an old Hayes Smartmodem 1200 around here somewhere.  I don't plug it in very often, but it worked last time I tried it.</p><p>We used to have two working PCjrs.  Unfortunately they disappeared a couple years back - my brother and I each thought the other had them.  I think my dad threw them away when he was moving... then saved the PCjr monitor for some bizarre reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an old Hayes Smartmodem 1200 around here somewhere .
I do n't plug it in very often , but it worked last time I tried it.We used to have two working PCjrs .
Unfortunately they disappeared a couple years back - my brother and I each thought the other had them .
I think my dad threw them away when he was moving... then saved the PCjr monitor for some bizarre reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an old Hayes Smartmodem 1200 around here somewhere.
I don't plug it in very often, but it worked last time I tried it.We used to have two working PCjrs.
Unfortunately they disappeared a couple years back - my brother and I each thought the other had them.
I think my dad threw them away when he was moving... then saved the PCjr monitor for some bizarre reason.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130413</id>
	<title>Does software count?</title>
	<author>noahm</author>
	<datestamp>1243505940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incompatible\_Timesharing\_System" title="wikipedia.org">ITS</a> [wikipedia.org] system that I occasionally fire up in an emulator if I'm feeling really retro.  I don't actually <i>use</i> it for anything, though.</p><p>
There are a number of people at <a href="http://www.csail.mit.edu/" title="mit.edu">my workplace</a> [mit.edu] who still use their old <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolics" title="wikipedia.org">Symbolics</a> [wikipedia.org] <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp\_machine" title="wikipedia.org">LISP Machines</a> [wikipedia.org] on a daily basis.  They swear that there has never been a better development environment, and that it's really a tragedy that lispms failed in the marketplace.</p><p>
noah
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got an ITS [ wikipedia.org ] system that I occasionally fire up in an emulator if I 'm feeling really retro .
I do n't actually use it for anything , though .
There are a number of people at my workplace [ mit.edu ] who still use their old Symbolics [ wikipedia.org ] LISP Machines [ wikipedia.org ] on a daily basis .
They swear that there has never been a better development environment , and that it 's really a tragedy that lispms failed in the marketplace .
noah</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got an ITS [wikipedia.org] system that I occasionally fire up in an emulator if I'm feeling really retro.
I don't actually use it for anything, though.
There are a number of people at my workplace [mit.edu] who still use their old Symbolics [wikipedia.org] LISP Machines [wikipedia.org] on a daily basis.
They swear that there has never been a better development environment, and that it's really a tragedy that lispms failed in the marketplace.
noah
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136613</id>
	<title>HMMMM</title>
	<author>BlindRobin</author>
	<datestamp>1243597440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a screwdriver that was manufactured in the mid nineteenth century that still works just fine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a screwdriver that was manufactured in the mid nineteenth century that still works just fine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a screwdriver that was manufactured in the mid nineteenth century that still works just fine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130241</id>
	<title>I still have a 110 baud modem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243505340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But then, back in my day, we wired our boards ourselves and even soldered the LEDs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But then , back in my day , we wired our boards ourselves and even soldered the LEDs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But then, back in my day, we wired our boards ourselves and even soldered the LEDs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131187</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>Nichole\_knc</author>
	<datestamp>1243509480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a TRS-80 16K Level II, still runs, loads by cassette.
Amiga 500 from 1986 and an Amiga 2500 with over 500 disk loads of software, kernel manuals, several Amiga magazines with software. Many are Fred Fish Originals downloads years ago... Also Have many 'betas' made on the Amiga years ago of software in use today..

Amiga - The OS and computer that should have been and yes they both still work and are used by me at least a couple of times a month... Soundtracker Rocks...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a TRS-80 16K Level II , still runs , loads by cassette .
Amiga 500 from 1986 and an Amiga 2500 with over 500 disk loads of software , kernel manuals , several Amiga magazines with software .
Many are Fred Fish Originals downloads years ago... Also Have many 'betas ' made on the Amiga years ago of software in use today. . Amiga - The OS and computer that should have been and yes they both still work and are used by me at least a couple of times a month... Soundtracker Rocks.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a TRS-80 16K Level II, still runs, loads by cassette.
Amiga 500 from 1986 and an Amiga 2500 with over 500 disk loads of software, kernel manuals, several Amiga magazines with software.
Many are Fred Fish Originals downloads years ago... Also Have many 'betas' made on the Amiga years ago of software in use today..

Amiga - The OS and computer that should have been and yes they both still work and are used by me at least a couple of times a month... Soundtracker Rocks...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133003</id>
	<title>Netronics Elf II</title>
	<author>inicom</author>
	<datestamp>1243518660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still have my Netronics Elf II computer - the first one I owned. RCA 1802  processor, Hex keypad, 2 7-digit LED display!</p><p>I no longer have the OSI C2P that was my second computer, or the thermal printer/terminal with APL keyboard and integral 300 baud acoustic modem I used throughout college.  I even had a beautiful ADM3A terminal for while.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have my Netronics Elf II computer - the first one I owned .
RCA 1802 processor , Hex keypad , 2 7-digit LED display ! I no longer have the OSI C2P that was my second computer , or the thermal printer/terminal with APL keyboard and integral 300 baud acoustic modem I used throughout college .
I even had a beautiful ADM3A terminal for while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have my Netronics Elf II computer - the first one I owned.
RCA 1802  processor, Hex keypad, 2 7-digit LED display!I no longer have the OSI C2P that was my second computer, or the thermal printer/terminal with APL keyboard and integral 300 baud acoustic modem I used throughout college.
I even had a beautiful ADM3A terminal for while.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128143</id>
	<title>Really old tech</title>
	<author>Rootbear</author>
	<datestamp>1243541460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember 300 baud modems.  Cool that one still works today.  The oldest operating bit of technology in my house is my 120 year old Seth Thomas kitchen clock, which is currently being cleaned, but I use it daily.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember 300 baud modems .
Cool that one still works today .
The oldest operating bit of technology in my house is my 120 year old Seth Thomas kitchen clock , which is currently being cleaned , but I use it daily .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember 300 baud modems.
Cool that one still works today.
The oldest operating bit of technology in my house is my 120 year old Seth Thomas kitchen clock, which is currently being cleaned, but I use it daily.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127511</id>
	<title>Meh, I use a 1977 PDP-11 to occasionally surf</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not quite as old, but I occasionally power up the old PDP-11/34a in my basement (running REAL BSD Unix, of course) and surf the web with lynx.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not quite as old , but I occasionally power up the old PDP-11/34a in my basement ( running REAL BSD Unix , of course ) and surf the web with lynx .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not quite as old, but I occasionally power up the old PDP-11/34a in my basement (running REAL BSD Unix, of course) and surf the web with lynx.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128363</id>
	<title>Soo much old stuff</title>
	<author>drummerboybac</author>
	<datestamp>1243542060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a Atari 2600 still actively in use to play Kaboom with the old paddles

I also have a bunch of old Apple kit that still works, such as

Apple IIe 1983
LASER 128(Clone) 1984
Mac SE 1987
Quadra 630 1994
Centris 660AV 1994
Powerbook Duo 280c 1994
Powerbook 540c 1994
Newton 1995



All this before the age of 30.  Im gonna be drowning in stuff by 40.  My wife says I should get rid of some of the old stuff.  Ol' dusty and ol' obsoletey as my wife calls them.


Naaaaaaaaaah</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Atari 2600 still actively in use to play Kaboom with the old paddles I also have a bunch of old Apple kit that still works , such as Apple IIe 1983 LASER 128 ( Clone ) 1984 Mac SE 1987 Quadra 630 1994 Centris 660AV 1994 Powerbook Duo 280c 1994 Powerbook 540c 1994 Newton 1995 All this before the age of 30 .
Im gon na be drowning in stuff by 40 .
My wife says I should get rid of some of the old stuff .
Ol ' dusty and ol ' obsoletey as my wife calls them .
Naaaaaaaaaah</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Atari 2600 still actively in use to play Kaboom with the old paddles

I also have a bunch of old Apple kit that still works, such as

Apple IIe 1983
LASER 128(Clone) 1984
Mac SE 1987
Quadra 630 1994
Centris 660AV 1994
Powerbook Duo 280c 1994
Powerbook 540c 1994
Newton 1995



All this before the age of 30.
Im gonna be drowning in stuff by 40.
My wife says I should get rid of some of the old stuff.
Ol' dusty and ol' obsoletey as my wife calls them.
Naaaaaaaaaah</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128731</id>
	<title>Didn't have to use a text-based browser</title>
	<author>Guspaz</author>
	<datestamp>1243543080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Opera Mini does a good job at getting pages crunched down, and can be run on a desktop. You'd probably want to turn off images, and browse in mobile mode, but it'd probably be an acceptable experience. Figure 30-60 seconds to load a short page? It'd be compressed and text-only, although you're wasting bandwidth sending the HTML rather than with lynx where you just send the text.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera Mini does a good job at getting pages crunched down , and can be run on a desktop .
You 'd probably want to turn off images , and browse in mobile mode , but it 'd probably be an acceptable experience .
Figure 30-60 seconds to load a short page ?
It 'd be compressed and text-only , although you 're wasting bandwidth sending the HTML rather than with lynx where you just send the text .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera Mini does a good job at getting pages crunched down, and can be run on a desktop.
You'd probably want to turn off images, and browse in mobile mode, but it'd probably be an acceptable experience.
Figure 30-60 seconds to load a short page?
It'd be compressed and text-only, although you're wasting bandwidth sending the HTML rather than with lynx where you just send the text.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129425</id>
	<title>Amiga</title>
	<author>bryan1945</author>
	<datestamp>1243502160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A couple of years ago I fired up my old Amiga 1000.  What's that, circa '84, '85?  Nifty machine.  Still have my Apple II+, but that's been in storage forever.  Also have an original Macintosh, but no peripherals (was someone's paperweight).  I powered it up, sounded like it was working, but no screen.  Haven't got around to cracking it open to play with the innards.  Oh, forgot the old Okidata dot matrix printer for the II+.  Wonder if I could get that to work?  I'll have to find it.  Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever thrown out any computer equipment.  Well, at least they eBay now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A couple of years ago I fired up my old Amiga 1000 .
What 's that , circa '84 , '85 ?
Nifty machine .
Still have my Apple II + , but that 's been in storage forever .
Also have an original Macintosh , but no peripherals ( was someone 's paperweight ) .
I powered it up , sounded like it was working , but no screen .
Have n't got around to cracking it open to play with the innards .
Oh , forgot the old Okidata dot matrix printer for the II + .
Wonder if I could get that to work ?
I 'll have to find it .
Come to think of it , I do n't think I 've ever thrown out any computer equipment .
Well , at least they eBay now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A couple of years ago I fired up my old Amiga 1000.
What's that, circa '84, '85?
Nifty machine.
Still have my Apple II+, but that's been in storage forever.
Also have an original Macintosh, but no peripherals (was someone's paperweight).
I powered it up, sounded like it was working, but no screen.
Haven't got around to cracking it open to play with the innards.
Oh, forgot the old Okidata dot matrix printer for the II+.
Wonder if I could get that to work?
I'll have to find it.
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever thrown out any computer equipment.
Well, at least they eBay now!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129283</id>
	<title>No, I'm sorry...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243501740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...there is nothing "cool" about getting a 45-year-old chunk of hardware to "work" on your modern computer system. What would be "cool" would be to be able to actually browse a web site or download something larger than an SMS message. Otherwise, it's just another addition to the junk heap.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...there is nothing " cool " about getting a 45-year-old chunk of hardware to " work " on your modern computer system .
What would be " cool " would be to be able to actually browse a web site or download something larger than an SMS message .
Otherwise , it 's just another addition to the junk heap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...there is nothing "cool" about getting a 45-year-old chunk of hardware to "work" on your modern computer system.
What would be "cool" would be to be able to actually browse a web site or download something larger than an SMS message.
Otherwise, it's just another addition to the junk heap.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131817</id>
	<title>I've got an Oscilloscope that's about as old....</title>
	<author>airbatica</author>
	<datestamp>1243512720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tektronix 453, serial 13084.  No idea on the date (1960ish), but its a beauty of analog engineering.  I use it to troubleshoot my basket case 7603, which is gathering dust waiting for me to get around to cleaning off the work bench.  I don't use it for anything that requires exact measurement, as it tends to drift quite a bit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tektronix 453 , serial 13084 .
No idea on the date ( 1960ish ) , but its a beauty of analog engineering .
I use it to troubleshoot my basket case 7603 , which is gathering dust waiting for me to get around to cleaning off the work bench .
I do n't use it for anything that requires exact measurement , as it tends to drift quite a bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tektronix 453, serial 13084.
No idea on the date (1960ish), but its a beauty of analog engineering.
I use it to troubleshoot my basket case 7603, which is gathering dust waiting for me to get around to cleaning off the work bench.
I don't use it for anything that requires exact measurement, as it tends to drift quite a bit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127913</id>
	<title>oblig.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>300 baud ought to be enough for anyone. Just bring some time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>300 baud ought to be enough for anyone .
Just bring some time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>300 baud ought to be enough for anyone.
Just bring some time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127769</id>
	<title>Sega Master System</title>
	<author>Brandee07</author>
	<datestamp>1243540440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My older brother got a Sega Master system for his fifth Christmas, which puts me at three years old. So, the system is twenty years old.
</p><p>We still have Afterburner, Hang On!/Safari Hunt, and Wonder Boy, and a light gun controller. All of these still function when I last checked about a year ago, although to use it now it and all of its cables must be recovered from the electronics graveyard (my dad's garage).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My older brother got a Sega Master system for his fifth Christmas , which puts me at three years old .
So , the system is twenty years old .
We still have Afterburner , Hang On ! /Safari Hunt , and Wonder Boy , and a light gun controller .
All of these still function when I last checked about a year ago , although to use it now it and all of its cables must be recovered from the electronics graveyard ( my dad 's garage ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My older brother got a Sega Master system for his fifth Christmas, which puts me at three years old.
So, the system is twenty years old.
We still have Afterburner, Hang On!/Safari Hunt, and Wonder Boy, and a light gun controller.
All of these still function when I last checked about a year ago, although to use it now it and all of its cables must be recovered from the electronics graveyard (my dad's garage).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127793</id>
	<title>should be tagged ibeforeeexceptafterc</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that is all</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that is all</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that is all</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127519</id>
	<title>Where'd you get a compatible handset?</title>
	<author>bzzfzz</author>
	<datestamp>1243539780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most of the acoustic couplers back in the day were fairly picky about the telephone handset used.</p><p>I make it a point to get rid of old digital gear, but I do have a telephone from the 1920s.  It's still hooked up, and is one of the few reasons I still have a landline.  It has the rayon-covered cord and everything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of the acoustic couplers back in the day were fairly picky about the telephone handset used.I make it a point to get rid of old digital gear , but I do have a telephone from the 1920s .
It 's still hooked up , and is one of the few reasons I still have a landline .
It has the rayon-covered cord and everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of the acoustic couplers back in the day were fairly picky about the telephone handset used.I make it a point to get rid of old digital gear, but I do have a telephone from the 1920s.
It's still hooked up, and is one of the few reasons I still have a landline.
It has the rayon-covered cord and everything.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128097</id>
	<title>Re:Back then</title>
	<author>digitac</author>
	<datestamp>1243541400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hell, I can't get my 8800GTX from 2 years ago to work because EVGA won't honor their "Lifetime* Warranty".</p><p>*apparently NOT lifetime</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hell , I ca n't get my 8800GTX from 2 years ago to work because EVGA wo n't honor their " Lifetime * Warranty " .
* apparently NOT lifetime</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hell, I can't get my 8800GTX from 2 years ago to work because EVGA won't honor their "Lifetime* Warranty".
*apparently NOT lifetime</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127483</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128661</id>
	<title>older equipment...</title>
	<author>ak\_hepcat</author>
	<datestamp>1243542840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a very-much still working  CIT-101e  vt100 dumb green screen from 1983.</p><p>Works great as the serial console to my embedded firewall.</p><p>I don't fire up my Apple ][  (non-plus model) often, but I know that still works, and it's got a modem, cpm card, and maybe an integer basic card, but i can't remember.  That's about 77-78</p><p>I don't think i have anything anymore that breaks the 35-year mark, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a very-much still working CIT-101e vt100 dumb green screen from 1983.Works great as the serial console to my embedded firewall.I do n't fire up my Apple ] [ ( non-plus model ) often , but I know that still works , and it 's got a modem , cpm card , and maybe an integer basic card , but i ca n't remember .
That 's about 77-78I do n't think i have anything anymore that breaks the 35-year mark , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a very-much still working  CIT-101e  vt100 dumb green screen from 1983.Works great as the serial console to my embedded firewall.I don't fire up my Apple ][  (non-plus model) often, but I know that still works, and it's got a modem, cpm card, and maybe an integer basic card, but i can't remember.
That's about 77-78I don't think i have anything anymore that breaks the 35-year mark, though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128463</id>
	<title>Re:I retrieve all my webpages</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243542360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CowboyNeal doesn't run, he waddles!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CowboyNeal does n't run , he waddles !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CowboyNeal doesn't run, he waddles!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127611</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127611</id>
	<title>I retrieve all my webpages</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>using CowboyNeal. I imagine I can keep it going until 2073 or so. It is low maintenance and runs fast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>using CowboyNeal .
I imagine I can keep it going until 2073 or so .
It is low maintenance and runs fast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>using CowboyNeal.
I imagine I can keep it going until 2073 or so.
It is low maintenance and runs fast.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133275</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243520220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a working Cossor 1049 from, you guessed it, 1949 sitting in my workshop.  Purely a novelty piece, and so amazingly heavy I'd think twice before leaving it on my desk for more than a few hours at a time, but it still works.</p><p>I also have a collection of early microbees dating back to 1983 most of which are working.  One of these days I'd love to cross-compile myself a browser, find myself a dial-in line and do some old-school surfing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a working Cossor 1049 from , you guessed it , 1949 sitting in my workshop .
Purely a novelty piece , and so amazingly heavy I 'd think twice before leaving it on my desk for more than a few hours at a time , but it still works.I also have a collection of early microbees dating back to 1983 most of which are working .
One of these days I 'd love to cross-compile myself a browser , find myself a dial-in line and do some old-school surfing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a working Cossor 1049 from, you guessed it, 1949 sitting in my workshop.
Purely a novelty piece, and so amazingly heavy I'd think twice before leaving it on my desk for more than a few hours at a time, but it still works.I also have a collection of early microbees dating back to 1983 most of which are working.
One of these days I'd love to cross-compile myself a browser, find myself a dial-in line and do some old-school surfing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129561</id>
	<title>PDP-11</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243502640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I programmed a PDP-11 in graduate school to pull data from my vapor deposition rig.  Circa 1975 or so.  Gotta love those 8" floppy disks.  I don't know about today, but four or five years ago I went back to my graduate lab for a visit, and there it was still chugging my code along.  Why replace it if it ain't broke?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I programmed a PDP-11 in graduate school to pull data from my vapor deposition rig .
Circa 1975 or so .
Got ta love those 8 " floppy disks .
I do n't know about today , but four or five years ago I went back to my graduate lab for a visit , and there it was still chugging my code along .
Why replace it if it ai n't broke ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I programmed a PDP-11 in graduate school to pull data from my vapor deposition rig.
Circa 1975 or so.
Gotta love those 8" floppy disks.
I don't know about today, but four or five years ago I went back to my graduate lab for a visit, and there it was still chugging my code along.
Why replace it if it ain't broke?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128875</id>
	<title>Re:Back then</title>
	<author>sarahbau</author>
	<datestamp>1243543500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most companies these days call a "Lifetime Warranty" a warranty that lasts as long as they continue selling the product. It's not your lifetime - it's the lifetime of the product cycle. I think it's very misleading because no one thinks that's what they mean. It also gives a variable duration for the warranty - the longer after release you buy it, the shorter the warranty.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most companies these days call a " Lifetime Warranty " a warranty that lasts as long as they continue selling the product .
It 's not your lifetime - it 's the lifetime of the product cycle .
I think it 's very misleading because no one thinks that 's what they mean .
It also gives a variable duration for the warranty - the longer after release you buy it , the shorter the warranty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most companies these days call a "Lifetime Warranty" a warranty that lasts as long as they continue selling the product.
It's not your lifetime - it's the lifetime of the product cycle.
I think it's very misleading because no one thinks that's what they mean.
It also gives a variable duration for the warranty - the longer after release you buy it, the shorter the warranty.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128097</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128553</id>
	<title>Hmmmm</title>
	<author>senorpoco</author>
	<datestamp>1243542540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My liver.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My liver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My liver.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128781</id>
	<title>Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler</title>
	<author>bessie</author>
	<datestamp>1243543200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler and a Lear-Seigler ADM3a terminal as my first bit of computer equipment.  Don't know whatever happened to it - probably gave it all away.</p><p>- Tim</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler and a Lear-Seigler ADM3a terminal as my first bit of computer equipment .
Do n't know whatever happened to it - probably gave it all away.- Tim</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a Ven-Tel 300 baud acoustic coupler and a Lear-Seigler ADM3a terminal as my first bit of computer equipment.
Don't know whatever happened to it - probably gave it all away.- Tim</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127607</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unimpressive, all of you.  Most of the atoms in my computer are like, billions of years old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unimpressive , all of you .
Most of the atoms in my computer are like , billions of years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unimpressive, all of you.
Most of the atoms in my computer are like, billions of years old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131437</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>TigerNut</author>
	<datestamp>1243510800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an HP 204D oscillator and a Tek 500 series modular analog storage oscilloscope - the kind where they use a low-power flood gun in the CRT to keep the image. It does four channels plus triggering, and it's entirely adequate for low-speed signals and automotive testing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an HP 204D oscillator and a Tek 500 series modular analog storage oscilloscope - the kind where they use a low-power flood gun in the CRT to keep the image .
It does four channels plus triggering , and it 's entirely adequate for low-speed signals and automotive testing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an HP 204D oscillator and a Tek 500 series modular analog storage oscilloscope - the kind where they use a low-power flood gun in the CRT to keep the image.
It does four channels plus triggering, and it's entirely adequate for low-speed signals and automotive testing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130629</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest kit?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243506840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works, just about, around 25 years after we got it. Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast, so there's not much you can do with it.</p></div><p>Yeah, I've still got a Timex/Sinclair T/S-1000 that still works.  With a working 16K RAM pack, and printer.  It's from about 1981.  My first computer.  Don't have the same cassette player I had at the time though.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works , just about , around 25 years after we got it .
Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast , so there 's not much you can do with it.Yeah , I 've still got a Timex/Sinclair T/S-1000 that still works .
With a working 16K RAM pack , and printer .
It 's from about 1981 .
My first computer .
Do n't have the same cassette player I had at the time though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works, just about, around 25 years after we got it.
Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast, so there's not much you can do with it.Yeah, I've still got a Timex/Sinclair T/S-1000 that still works.
With a working 16K RAM pack, and printer.
It's from about 1981.
My first computer.
Don't have the same cassette player I had at the time though.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127481</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128827</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>TinBromide</author>
	<datestamp>1243543380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, i'm not still paying, but i did find a few in the attic, my favorite is currently in a storage locker somewhere, but it works like a champ. I made an adapter to make it work with modern wall jacks but haven't made it ring yet (not that that is a bad thing).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , i 'm not still paying , but i did find a few in the attic , my favorite is currently in a storage locker somewhere , but it works like a champ .
I made an adapter to make it work with modern wall jacks but have n't made it ring yet ( not that that is a bad thing ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, i'm not still paying, but i did find a few in the attic, my favorite is currently in a storage locker somewhere, but it works like a champ.
I made an adapter to make it work with modern wall jacks but haven't made it ring yet (not that that is a bad thing).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129775</id>
	<title>My old junk</title>
	<author>PagosaSam</author>
	<datestamp>1243503480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an Edison cylinder phonograph that still works.  I also have a wire recorder and a Dictaphone page recorder. <p>The page recorder uses 8.5x11 sheets of mag-tape wrapped around a drum which spins and the record/playback head follows a lag screw down the cylinder.  Think about a lathe turning metal.</p><p>My oldest computer; I gave to my brother. It is a Altair 8800b Turnkey. Came with 1K of RAM and 1K of PROM which contained the boot loader. Mine was real fancy and had a 4K memory card and you can load CP/M from tape. I gave it to my Bro because he used to work for MITS in Albuquerque.</p><p>Now I feel older than dirt... Get off my lawn!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an Edison cylinder phonograph that still works .
I also have a wire recorder and a Dictaphone page recorder .
The page recorder uses 8.5x11 sheets of mag-tape wrapped around a drum which spins and the record/playback head follows a lag screw down the cylinder .
Think about a lathe turning metal.My oldest computer ; I gave to my brother .
It is a Altair 8800b Turnkey .
Came with 1K of RAM and 1K of PROM which contained the boot loader .
Mine was real fancy and had a 4K memory card and you can load CP/M from tape .
I gave it to my Bro because he used to work for MITS in Albuquerque.Now I feel older than dirt... Get off my lawn !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an Edison cylinder phonograph that still works.
I also have a wire recorder and a Dictaphone page recorder.
The page recorder uses 8.5x11 sheets of mag-tape wrapped around a drum which spins and the record/playback head follows a lag screw down the cylinder.
Think about a lathe turning metal.My oldest computer; I gave to my brother.
It is a Altair 8800b Turnkey.
Came with 1K of RAM and 1K of PROM which contained the boot loader.
Mine was real fancy and had a 4K memory card and you can load CP/M from tape.
I gave it to my Bro because he used to work for MITS in Albuquerque.Now I feel older than dirt... Get off my lawn!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127503</id>
	<title>house</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in a house that's over 200 years old. I have some 78s from the first part of last century in a cupboard - they're fairly $$$. Don't have an old working gramophone player, but do have some old functional reel-to-reel audio tape equipment. I have a PDP in the corner. Erm, lots of computing stuff from the '80s, but who doesn't? My oldest modem's a 1200 baud from the late '80s. I still prefer serial (and parallel) ports to USB. USB is a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible standard, and anything not suitable for a serial/parallel port has other better standards appropriate for it (Firewire, SCSI, etc).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in a house that 's over 200 years old .
I have some 78s from the first part of last century in a cupboard - they 're fairly $ $ $ .
Do n't have an old working gramophone player , but do have some old functional reel-to-reel audio tape equipment .
I have a PDP in the corner .
Erm , lots of computing stuff from the '80s , but who does n't ?
My oldest modem 's a 1200 baud from the late '80s .
I still prefer serial ( and parallel ) ports to USB .
USB is a horrible , horrible , horrible , horrible , horrible standard , and anything not suitable for a serial/parallel port has other better standards appropriate for it ( Firewire , SCSI , etc ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in a house that's over 200 years old.
I have some 78s from the first part of last century in a cupboard - they're fairly $$$.
Don't have an old working gramophone player, but do have some old functional reel-to-reel audio tape equipment.
I have a PDP in the corner.
Erm, lots of computing stuff from the '80s, but who doesn't?
My oldest modem's a 1200 baud from the late '80s.
I still prefer serial (and parallel) ports to USB.
USB is a horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible, horrible standard, and anything not suitable for a serial/parallel port has other better standards appropriate for it (Firewire, SCSI, etc).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128307</id>
	<title>MS products</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243541940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a shrink wrapped "Microsoft Window 3.0" (c) 1990, with the label on the front:</p><p><i>"New! Breaks the 640K memory barrier.  Unleash all the power of your PC."</i></p><p>I use as a door stopper, but I'm still to embarrassed to post this under my account.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a shrink wrapped " Microsoft Window 3.0 " ( c ) 1990 , with the label on the front : " New !
Breaks the 640K memory barrier .
Unleash all the power of your PC .
" I use as a door stopper , but I 'm still to embarrassed to post this under my account .
   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a shrink wrapped "Microsoft Window 3.0" (c) 1990, with the label on the front:"New!
Breaks the 640K memory barrier.
Unleash all the power of your PC.
"I use as a door stopper, but I'm still to embarrassed to post this under my account.
   </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132821</id>
	<title>Re:Where'd you get a compatible handset?</title>
	<author>lucifuge31337</author>
	<datestamp>1243517760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got a mid 1930's Western Electric butt set (lineman's hand set) that I have hooked up to a ATA.  I use it as my desk phone at work on our voip PBX.  All I really need to do (eventually) is put a caller ID box and a DTMF keypad inline .

In the mean time, I just have my new(ish) modern butt set clamped on as well.  That's my dialpad, speakerphone, and ringer.

I really want an old phone booth with a phone.  And yes, it will go voip too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a mid 1930 's Western Electric butt set ( lineman 's hand set ) that I have hooked up to a ATA .
I use it as my desk phone at work on our voip PBX .
All I really need to do ( eventually ) is put a caller ID box and a DTMF keypad inline .
In the mean time , I just have my new ( ish ) modern butt set clamped on as well .
That 's my dialpad , speakerphone , and ringer .
I really want an old phone booth with a phone .
And yes , it will go voip too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a mid 1930's Western Electric butt set (lineman's hand set) that I have hooked up to a ATA.
I use it as my desk phone at work on our voip PBX.
All I really need to do (eventually) is put a caller ID box and a DTMF keypad inline .
In the mean time, I just have my new(ish) modern butt set clamped on as well.
That's my dialpad, speakerphone, and ringer.
I really want an old phone booth with a phone.
And yes, it will go voip too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127519</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127595</id>
	<title>Old stuff</title>
	<author>Anonymous Codger</author>
	<datestamp>1243539960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that old, really, but...</p><p>Mac Plus (1986)<br>Atari 400 plus peripherals, including an ATR8000, which is a Z80 box that doubled as a CPM machine and an Atari peripherals controller (1983)<br>Sinclair ZX80 computer (1981) (I can't swear that this still works)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that old , really , but...Mac Plus ( 1986 ) Atari 400 plus peripherals , including an ATR8000 , which is a Z80 box that doubled as a CPM machine and an Atari peripherals controller ( 1983 ) Sinclair ZX80 computer ( 1981 ) ( I ca n't swear that this still works )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that old, really, but...Mac Plus (1986)Atari 400 plus peripherals, including an ATR8000, which is a Z80 box that doubled as a CPM machine and an Atari peripherals controller (1983)Sinclair ZX80 computer (1981) (I can't swear that this still works)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136287</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>FreakyGreenLeaky</author>
	<datestamp>1243593060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm a bit of an OCD irritable old crank when it comes to keyboards (finally settled on Enermax Aurora - solid aluminium, notebook style keys with scissor tech), so I'm curious, don't you find the horribly deep key-travel (action) on yer model M hinders your style?  I mean, jeez, the keys plonk in further than an old harpiscord.  Is it similar to the old terminal keyboards connected to an IBM System 36 maindrain?<br>.</p><p>Also the size.  My God, it's huge.  I'm sure you have to park your mouse on the extra desk to your right (or left, depending which way you swing).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a bit of an OCD irritable old crank when it comes to keyboards ( finally settled on Enermax Aurora - solid aluminium , notebook style keys with scissor tech ) , so I 'm curious , do n't you find the horribly deep key-travel ( action ) on yer model M hinders your style ?
I mean , jeez , the keys plonk in further than an old harpiscord .
Is it similar to the old terminal keyboards connected to an IBM System 36 maindrain ? .Also the size .
My God , it 's huge .
I 'm sure you have to park your mouse on the extra desk to your right ( or left , depending which way you swing ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a bit of an OCD irritable old crank when it comes to keyboards (finally settled on Enermax Aurora - solid aluminium, notebook style keys with scissor tech), so I'm curious, don't you find the horribly deep key-travel (action) on yer model M hinders your style?
I mean, jeez, the keys plonk in further than an old harpiscord.
Is it similar to the old terminal keyboards connected to an IBM System 36 maindrain?.Also the size.
My God, it's huge.
I'm sure you have to park your mouse on the extra desk to your right (or left, depending which way you swing).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127689</id>
	<title>Apple II</title>
	<author>SchizoStatic</author>
	<datestamp>1243540200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still rock an Apple II to play Oregon Trail and Number Munchers</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still rock an Apple II to play Oregon Trail and Number Munchers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still rock an Apple II to play Oregon Trail and Number Munchers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127759</id>
	<title>Myself...</title>
	<author>religious freak</author>
	<datestamp>1243540440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The matter inside of me is just reconstituted material dating back ~20 Billion years.  Beat that!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The matter inside of me is just reconstituted material dating back ~ 20 Billion years .
Beat that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The matter inside of me is just reconstituted material dating back ~20 Billion years.
Beat that!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128511</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243542420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to have a working Dumont "cathode-ray oscillograph" from 1939. Thing was black as the future and weighed close to fifty pounds. The chassis slid out of the case and had enough room for a bottle of vodka and the other stashable items I needed to hide from my parents.</p><p>I had several others (Wall...Of...Squiggly!), but all I currently have is an RCA scope from 1969.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to have a working Dumont " cathode-ray oscillograph " from 1939 .
Thing was black as the future and weighed close to fifty pounds .
The chassis slid out of the case and had enough room for a bottle of vodka and the other stashable items I needed to hide from my parents.I had several others ( Wall...Of...Squiggly !
) , but all I currently have is an RCA scope from 1969 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to have a working Dumont "cathode-ray oscillograph" from 1939.
Thing was black as the future and weighed close to fifty pounds.
The chassis slid out of the case and had enough room for a bottle of vodka and the other stashable items I needed to hide from my parents.I had several others (Wall...Of...Squiggly!
), but all I currently have is an RCA scope from 1969.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28146713</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243613460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Unimpressive, all of you.  Most of the atoms in my computer are like, billions of years old.</p></div><p>No... they are no more than 6000 years old. I just confirmed it from the guy in building with bells.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unimpressive , all of you .
Most of the atoms in my computer are like , billions of years old.No... they are no more than 6000 years old .
I just confirmed it from the guy in building with bells .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unimpressive, all of you.
Most of the atoms in my computer are like, billions of years old.No... they are no more than 6000 years old.
I just confirmed it from the guy in building with bells.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127607</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129781</id>
	<title>NeXT Cube w/ '030 motherboard upgrade</title>
	<author>WillAdams</author>
	<datestamp>1243503480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My wife's Mac SE is still running System 6.0.8 just fine too.</p><p>And my mother-in-law gave me her Esterbrook fountain pen which she received as a graduation present in 1950 which works wonderfully, though I mostly use a Sheaffer Agio w/ custom ground 0.8mm italic nib (the 9312 medium italic for the Esterbrook is a bit wide for day-to-day use).</p><p>And there's the Remington No. 4<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.32 rimfire rolling block rifle which my father received in lieu of money from someone on his newspaper route when he was a boy during World War II --- made in 1898 or so.</p><p>William</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My wife 's Mac SE is still running System 6.0.8 just fine too.And my mother-in-law gave me her Esterbrook fountain pen which she received as a graduation present in 1950 which works wonderfully , though I mostly use a Sheaffer Agio w/ custom ground 0.8mm italic nib ( the 9312 medium italic for the Esterbrook is a bit wide for day-to-day use ) .And there 's the Remington No .
4 .32 rimfire rolling block rifle which my father received in lieu of money from someone on his newspaper route when he was a boy during World War II --- made in 1898 or so.William</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My wife's Mac SE is still running System 6.0.8 just fine too.And my mother-in-law gave me her Esterbrook fountain pen which she received as a graduation present in 1950 which works wonderfully, though I mostly use a Sheaffer Agio w/ custom ground 0.8mm italic nib (the 9312 medium italic for the Esterbrook is a bit wide for day-to-day use).And there's the Remington No.
4 .32 rimfire rolling block rifle which my father received in lieu of money from someone on his newspaper route when he was a boy during World War II --- made in 1898 or so.William</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129309</id>
	<title>Oldest piece of equipment?</title>
	<author>ogdenk</author>
	<datestamp>1243501800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The oldest piece of equipment I have that still actually works is a VAXstation 3100 m30 with a few modern SCSI drives w/ SCA adapters built in 1987 I think.  I still fire it up once in a while.  I have a couple serial terminals dangling off of it.  Technically, as configured it's a VAXserver 3100.  It has 16MB of RAM.</p><p>It runs ULTRIX 4.4 and NetBSD 1.4.</p><p>It's 22 years old.  Still running strong.  Still capable of running a modern version of BSD........slowly.  I think it's clocked at around ~11mhz but the official speed rating is 2.8 VUPs.  Clock rate is pretty meaningless anyway.</p><p>I got rid of the other old crap years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest piece of equipment I have that still actually works is a VAXstation 3100 m30 with a few modern SCSI drives w/ SCA adapters built in 1987 I think .
I still fire it up once in a while .
I have a couple serial terminals dangling off of it .
Technically , as configured it 's a VAXserver 3100 .
It has 16MB of RAM.It runs ULTRIX 4.4 and NetBSD 1.4.It 's 22 years old .
Still running strong .
Still capable of running a modern version of BSD........slowly .
I think it 's clocked at around ~ 11mhz but the official speed rating is 2.8 VUPs .
Clock rate is pretty meaningless anyway.I got rid of the other old crap years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest piece of equipment I have that still actually works is a VAXstation 3100 m30 with a few modern SCSI drives w/ SCA adapters built in 1987 I think.
I still fire it up once in a while.
I have a couple serial terminals dangling off of it.
Technically, as configured it's a VAXserver 3100.
It has 16MB of RAM.It runs ULTRIX 4.4 and NetBSD 1.4.It's 22 years old.
Still running strong.
Still capable of running a modern version of BSD........slowly.
I think it's clocked at around ~11mhz but the official speed rating is 2.8 VUPs.
Clock rate is pretty meaningless anyway.I got rid of the other old crap years ago.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128603</id>
	<title>My oldest working: TRS-80 Color Computer from 1980</title>
	<author>neuroklinik</author>
	<datestamp>1243542660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The oldest working piece of electronic (I have slide rules that are older) gear I have is my first computer, a TRS-80 Color Computer 1 from 1980. 32K of RAM, and Microsoft Extended Color Basic. 300 baud modem, and cassette tape for data storage. Still works perfectly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest working piece of electronic ( I have slide rules that are older ) gear I have is my first computer , a TRS-80 Color Computer 1 from 1980 .
32K of RAM , and Microsoft Extended Color Basic .
300 baud modem , and cassette tape for data storage .
Still works perfectly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest working piece of electronic (I have slide rules that are older) gear I have is my first computer, a TRS-80 Color Computer 1 from 1980.
32K of RAM, and Microsoft Extended Color Basic.
300 baud modem, and cassette tape for data storage.
Still works perfectly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134271</id>
	<title>Our old TV and calculators date from 70's &amp; 80</title>
	<author>twosat</author>
	<datestamp>1243527600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Our main TV is a 26" Philips KTV660 dating from late 1979, the TV repair man says that it is very overdesigned.  I also have an HP-41C programmable calcutor with several kilobytes of RAM which I bought in 1981, and a Casio FX-3200 slim-line calculator from 1980.   The calculators all work, but I very rarely use them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our main TV is a 26 " Philips KTV660 dating from late 1979 , the TV repair man says that it is very overdesigned .
I also have an HP-41C programmable calcutor with several kilobytes of RAM which I bought in 1981 , and a Casio FX-3200 slim-line calculator from 1980 .
The calculators all work , but I very rarely use them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our main TV is a 26" Philips KTV660 dating from late 1979, the TV repair man says that it is very overdesigned.
I also have an HP-41C programmable calcutor with several kilobytes of RAM which I bought in 1981, and a Casio FX-3200 slim-line calculator from 1980.
The calculators all work, but I very rarely use them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136041</id>
	<title>old stuff</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243589880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>- IBM Model M keyboard<br>Part No. 139401<br>ID No.  167088<br>Date 18 AUG 89<br>Plt No. J1<br>(will be buried with me)</p><p>-Atart 1024ST (still makes music)<br>- Tandy CoCo (Motorola 6809) (music)</p><p>-HP Vectra<br>96MB EDO RAM<br>Dos 6.2/WFW 3.11 w/32-bit libraries and Trumpet Winsock<br>(DOS games in RAM disk)<br>*can also boot OS/2 and GemDOS for amusement</p><p>-Intel BX440 mainboard in server full tower case with ATI Rage video</p><p>Palm Vx (2) (using ORB monitoring software as displays)</p><p>Casio BZX-20 Watch (occasionally forgets itself and thinks its 1995 but looks bitchin' and can communicate via IR with PC)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>- IBM Model M keyboardPart No .
139401ID No .
167088Date 18 AUG 89Plt No .
J1 ( will be buried with me ) -Atart 1024ST ( still makes music ) - Tandy CoCo ( Motorola 6809 ) ( music ) -HP Vectra96MB EDO RAMDos 6.2/WFW 3.11 w/32-bit libraries and Trumpet Winsock ( DOS games in RAM disk ) * can also boot OS/2 and GemDOS for amusement-Intel BX440 mainboard in server full tower case with ATI Rage videoPalm Vx ( 2 ) ( using ORB monitoring software as displays ) Casio BZX-20 Watch ( occasionally forgets itself and thinks its 1995 but looks bitchin ' and can communicate via IR with PC )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>- IBM Model M keyboardPart No.
139401ID No.
167088Date 18 AUG 89Plt No.
J1(will be buried with me)-Atart 1024ST (still makes music)- Tandy CoCo (Motorola 6809) (music)-HP Vectra96MB EDO RAMDos 6.2/WFW 3.11 w/32-bit libraries and Trumpet Winsock(DOS games in RAM disk)*can also boot OS/2 and GemDOS for amusement-Intel BX440 mainboard in server full tower case with ATI Rage videoPalm Vx (2) (using ORB monitoring software as displays)Casio BZX-20 Watch (occasionally forgets itself and thinks its 1995 but looks bitchin' and can communicate via IR with PC)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28136501</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1243596120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still have an A4000 with its original keyboard, also an A3000...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have an A4000 with its original keyboard , also an A3000.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have an A4000 with its original keyboard, also an A3000...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128139</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132453</id>
	<title>How about 1988?</title>
	<author>Mycroft\_514</author>
	<datestamp>1243515900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Toshiba T1200 Laptop - DOS 3.3, 640K memory, 20MB hard drive, 1200 baud modem (that was an option), monochrome screen.  My first<br>laptop and it still ran last time I fired it up - last year.  Everything older then that went to the public schools at some point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Toshiba T1200 Laptop - DOS 3.3 , 640K memory , 20MB hard drive , 1200 baud modem ( that was an option ) , monochrome screen .
My firstlaptop and it still ran last time I fired it up - last year .
Everything older then that went to the public schools at some point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Toshiba T1200 Laptop - DOS 3.3, 640K memory, 20MB hard drive, 1200 baud modem (that was an option), monochrome screen.
My firstlaptop and it still ran last time I fired it up - last year.
Everything older then that went to the public schools at some point.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129937</id>
	<title>My /. account</title>
	<author>BluBrick</author>
	<datestamp>1243504260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>'nuff said!  ('though it was tempting to post as AC)</htmltext>
<tokenext>'nuff said !
( 'though it was tempting to post as AC )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'nuff said!
('though it was tempting to post as AC)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128323</id>
	<title>Re:Old</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243542000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to disagree, I'd say no more than 6,000 years old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to disagree , I 'd say no more than 6,000 years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to disagree, I'd say no more than 6,000 years old.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127911</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131281</id>
	<title>Intellivision</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1243509960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I suspect the oldest device is the air conditioner in my 40 year old house.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>The oldest computer related gadget I have is probably an Intellivision, since I had to get rid of my PDP-11.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I suspect the oldest device is the air conditioner in my 40 year old house .
: ) The oldest computer related gadget I have is probably an Intellivision , since I had to get rid of my PDP-11 .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I suspect the oldest device is the air conditioner in my 40 year old house.
:)The oldest computer related gadget I have is probably an Intellivision, since I had to get rid of my PDP-11.
:(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130939</id>
	<title>Calculator</title>
	<author>MadUndergrad</author>
	<datestamp>1243508400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got an old 1979 TI-36 around somewhere. Still works, but very very slowly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got an old 1979 TI-36 around somewhere .
Still works , but very very slowly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got an old 1979 TI-36 around somewhere.
Still works, but very very slowly.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134615</id>
	<title>But this I actually use...</title>
	<author>Smock-Jata Babushka</author>
	<datestamp>1243530840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>While I can probably dig up some stuff that's older (audio equipment comes to mind), one thing I use regularly is my HP41 calculator that I bought around 1980 (it's sitting to side of my keyboard right now)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... love that RPN notation for solving problems on the fly. Doesn't have graphics (why do you need graphics?), doesn't plug into a computer (okay, that one might be nice for program storage), runs a year or more on four "N" batteries, and nobody wants to borrow it ("...where's the equals key?").

I'd buy a second one for when this one bites the dust, but they are considered "collectible", and would cost about as much today as it did thirty years ago!</htmltext>
<tokenext>While I can probably dig up some stuff that 's older ( audio equipment comes to mind ) , one thing I use regularly is my HP41 calculator that I bought around 1980 ( it 's sitting to side of my keyboard right now ) ... love that RPN notation for solving problems on the fly .
Does n't have graphics ( why do you need graphics ?
) , does n't plug into a computer ( okay , that one might be nice for program storage ) , runs a year or more on four " N " batteries , and nobody wants to borrow it ( " ...where 's the equals key ? " ) .
I 'd buy a second one for when this one bites the dust , but they are considered " collectible " , and would cost about as much today as it did thirty years ago !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While I can probably dig up some stuff that's older (audio equipment comes to mind), one thing I use regularly is my HP41 calculator that I bought around 1980 (it's sitting to side of my keyboard right now) ... love that RPN notation for solving problems on the fly.
Doesn't have graphics (why do you need graphics?
), doesn't plug into a computer (okay, that one might be nice for program storage), runs a year or more on four "N" batteries, and nobody wants to borrow it ("...where's the equals key?").
I'd buy a second one for when this one bites the dust, but they are considered "collectible", and would cost about as much today as it did thirty years ago!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127481</id>
	<title>Oldest kit?</title>
	<author>99luftballon</author>
	<datestamp>1243539660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works, just about, around 25 years after we got it. Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast, so there's not much you can do with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works , just about , around 25 years after we got it .
Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast , so there 's not much you can do with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well my Sinclair ZX81 still works, just about, around 25 years after we got it.
Sadly the 16Kb RAM pack is toast, so there's not much you can do with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130867</id>
	<title>5.25" Floppy drive</title>
	<author>Amazing Quantum Man</author>
	<datestamp>1243508100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a system with a 5.25" floppy drive from 1988 (21 years).  It's the last remaining piece of my first PC.  I kept it around because, for years, it allowed me to maintain the fiction that I was "upgrading" the original computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a system with a 5.25 " floppy drive from 1988 ( 21 years ) .
It 's the last remaining piece of my first PC .
I kept it around because , for years , it allowed me to maintain the fiction that I was " upgrading " the original computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a system with a 5.25" floppy drive from 1988 (21 years).
It's the last remaining piece of my first PC.
I kept it around because, for years, it allowed me to maintain the fiction that I was "upgrading" the original computer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129595</id>
	<title>Oldest working machine</title>
	<author>teknosapien</author>
	<datestamp>1243502760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>is a digital rainbow
still runs and has an acoustic coupled modem - unfortunately I no longer have a land line to see if it will still connect. Lining the bottom of the box, where this is stored are logs from the W.E.L.L. and chats I had with Timothy Leary and other notable folk who were "tuned in" at that time. I don't miss the noise of the dot matrix printers but do like the never ending feed of green bar and the sexy squeal of the modem connecting</htmltext>
<tokenext>is a digital rainbow still runs and has an acoustic coupled modem - unfortunately I no longer have a land line to see if it will still connect .
Lining the bottom of the box , where this is stored are logs from the W.E.L.L .
and chats I had with Timothy Leary and other notable folk who were " tuned in " at that time .
I do n't miss the noise of the dot matrix printers but do like the never ending feed of green bar and the sexy squeal of the modem connecting</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is a digital rainbow
still runs and has an acoustic coupled modem - unfortunately I no longer have a land line to see if it will still connect.
Lining the bottom of the box, where this is stored are logs from the W.E.L.L.
and chats I had with Timothy Leary and other notable folk who were "tuned in" at that time.
I don't miss the noise of the dot matrix printers but do like the never ending feed of green bar and the sexy squeal of the modem connecting</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129465</id>
	<title>Pentium Pro</title>
	<author>the cleaner</author>
	<datestamp>1243502340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Gateway / Webserver / Fileserver is a Dual Pentium Pro running FreeBSD. I recently bought another of these machines (Compaq Proliant 2500r) for spare parts, because the voltage converter (VRM Modul Spare Part 225529-001) gave up. Again.</p><p>I have no clue how old these systems are, but they sure look old. And big.</p><p>I'll probably replace it with something more powerful, this year. Like a EeePC 700 or so...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Gateway / Webserver / Fileserver is a Dual Pentium Pro running FreeBSD .
I recently bought another of these machines ( Compaq Proliant 2500r ) for spare parts , because the voltage converter ( VRM Modul Spare Part 225529-001 ) gave up .
Again.I have no clue how old these systems are , but they sure look old .
And big.I 'll probably replace it with something more powerful , this year .
Like a EeePC 700 or so.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Gateway / Webserver / Fileserver is a Dual Pentium Pro running FreeBSD.
I recently bought another of these machines (Compaq Proliant 2500r) for spare parts, because the voltage converter (VRM Modul Spare Part 225529-001) gave up.
Again.I have no clue how old these systems are, but they sure look old.
And big.I'll probably replace it with something more powerful, this year.
Like a EeePC 700 or so...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131247</id>
	<title>Hallicrafter S11</title>
	<author>Sanat</author>
	<datestamp>1243509720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My oldest electronic device is my 1937 Hallicrafter S11 Super Skyrider shortwave receiver.</p><p>I bought it used from a college professor's wife (he died) at Ohio Northern University (Ada, Ohio) in 1954 or 1955.</p><p>Nice in the winter for keeping a room toasty as the tubes do get warm and they give off a lovely glow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My oldest electronic device is my 1937 Hallicrafter S11 Super Skyrider shortwave receiver.I bought it used from a college professor 's wife ( he died ) at Ohio Northern University ( Ada , Ohio ) in 1954 or 1955.Nice in the winter for keeping a room toasty as the tubes do get warm and they give off a lovely glow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My oldest electronic device is my 1937 Hallicrafter S11 Super Skyrider shortwave receiver.I bought it used from a college professor's wife (he died) at Ohio Northern University (Ada, Ohio) in 1954 or 1955.Nice in the winter for keeping a room toasty as the tubes do get warm and they give off a lovely glow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128111</id>
	<title>Heathkit H89</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1243541400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still have my Heathkit H89 packed away in the basement.  I tell my wife that it's my payment into the Old Programmers home when I retire...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have my Heathkit H89 packed away in the basement .
I tell my wife that it 's my payment into the Old Programmers home when I retire.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have my Heathkit H89 packed away in the basement.
I tell my wife that it's my payment into the Old Programmers home when I retire...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129193</id>
	<title>Re:Still working with Paper Tape</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243501380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There still are a few purists out there using monotype casters which are paper tape driven typesetters from the days of hot lead (1885 on).<br>Probably most of the ones in use are 20th century but the design uses compressed air to read the paper tape and not electricity.</p><p>http://www.p22.com/Lanston/Giampa/DKeyboard.html</p><p>From a computer geek point of view, the neat thing is that each line is typed on a keyboard with dials for the proportional widths of letters and at the end of the line a space width value is punched on the tape.  In the caster the whole tape is read backwards to get the space value to use in the line. Sort of a one byte memory stack.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There still are a few purists out there using monotype casters which are paper tape driven typesetters from the days of hot lead ( 1885 on ) .Probably most of the ones in use are 20th century but the design uses compressed air to read the paper tape and not electricity.http : //www.p22.com/Lanston/Giampa/DKeyboard.htmlFrom a computer geek point of view , the neat thing is that each line is typed on a keyboard with dials for the proportional widths of letters and at the end of the line a space width value is punched on the tape .
In the caster the whole tape is read backwards to get the space value to use in the line .
Sort of a one byte memory stack .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There still are a few purists out there using monotype casters which are paper tape driven typesetters from the days of hot lead (1885 on).Probably most of the ones in use are 20th century but the design uses compressed air to read the paper tape and not electricity.http://www.p22.com/Lanston/Giampa/DKeyboard.htmlFrom a computer geek point of view, the neat thing is that each line is typed on a keyboard with dials for the proportional widths of letters and at the end of the line a space width value is punched on the tape.
In the caster the whole tape is read backwards to get the space value to use in the line.
Sort of a one byte memory stack.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127531</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127697</id>
	<title>ISA slots</title>
	<author>xkenny13</author>
	<datestamp>1243540260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The oldest I have in service is a Cyrix 6x86 system running Windows 98 SE.  I need it for the ISA slots so that I can run my *Needhams PB-10 EPROM burner.</p><p>* Since www.needhams.com doesn't come up anymore, I wonder if they are even still in business.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest I have in service is a Cyrix 6x86 system running Windows 98 SE .
I need it for the ISA slots so that I can run my * Needhams PB-10 EPROM burner .
* Since www.needhams.com does n't come up anymore , I wonder if they are even still in business .
: - (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest I have in service is a Cyrix 6x86 system running Windows 98 SE.
I need it for the ISA slots so that I can run my *Needhams PB-10 EPROM burner.
* Since www.needhams.com doesn't come up anymore, I wonder if they are even still in business.
:-(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127425</id>
	<title>My hammer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>My hammer was made in 1876.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My hammer was made in 1876 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My hammer was made in 1876.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127473</id>
	<title>Commadore Amiga 500</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>:D and I still love starting it up.. Nothing like the grinding of a floppy drive in the morning..</htmltext>
<tokenext>: D and I still love starting it up.. Nothing like the grinding of a floppy drive in the morning. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>:D and I still love starting it up.. Nothing like the grinding of a floppy drive in the morning..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131403</id>
	<title>Northgate Keyboards, Baby!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243510620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have 4 Northgate keyboards, circa 1990-1992. They weigh 5 pounds, have clicky keys, and are built like tanks. I can pound away on these keyboards all day (I'm a fast touch typist), and as long as I can keep them interfaced with current and future PC technology, I will never use another type of keyboard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have 4 Northgate keyboards , circa 1990-1992 .
They weigh 5 pounds , have clicky keys , and are built like tanks .
I can pound away on these keyboards all day ( I 'm a fast touch typist ) , and as long as I can keep them interfaced with current and future PC technology , I will never use another type of keyboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have 4 Northgate keyboards, circa 1990-1992.
They weigh 5 pounds, have clicky keys, and are built like tanks.
I can pound away on these keyboards all day (I'm a fast touch typist), and as long as I can keep them interfaced with current and future PC technology, I will never use another type of keyboard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130423</id>
	<title>I have a working Commodore 64K.</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1243506000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Though I can't get online with it.<br>The tapes that are still in the box with it (Trivial Pursuit and The Last Samurai) don't work either.<br>But the machine works when plugged in, and you can still code basic on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Though I ca n't get online with it.The tapes that are still in the box with it ( Trivial Pursuit and The Last Samurai ) do n't work either.But the machine works when plugged in , and you can still code basic on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though I can't get online with it.The tapes that are still in the box with it (Trivial Pursuit and The Last Samurai) don't work either.But the machine works when plugged in, and you can still code basic on it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128867</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>Brett Buck</author>
	<datestamp>1243543500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course. I have a Trimline phone at my house, and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so. Mine is touch-tone, not rotary. And at work we still have model 2500s all over the place.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Say what you want about them, but when they were ATT property they certainly highly motivated to build them to last. The only thing left after a nuclear war will be Twinkies, cockroaches, and Model 500 phones.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Brett</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course .
I have a Trimline phone at my house , and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so .
Mine is touch-tone , not rotary .
And at work we still have model 2500s all over the place .
      Say what you want about them , but when they were ATT property they certainly highly motivated to build them to last .
The only thing left after a nuclear war will be Twinkies , cockroaches , and Model 500 phones .
        Brett</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course.
I have a Trimline phone at my house, and have since it was legal to own a phone in about 1984 or so.
Mine is touch-tone, not rotary.
And at work we still have model 2500s all over the place.
      Say what you want about them, but when they were ATT property they certainly highly motivated to build them to last.
The only thing left after a nuclear war will be Twinkies, cockroaches, and Model 500 phones.
        Brett</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28141775</id>
	<title>How about my "boat anchor" ham gear?</title>
	<author>the\_rajah</author>
	<datestamp>1243626060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got a Hammarlund HQ-129X from 1946 that still receives just fine and sounds great as does my 1952 Collins 75A-2. On the transmitting side, my original Heathkit DX-40 that I built in 1957 still gets fired up occasionally and does the same job it did back then.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a Hammarlund HQ-129X from 1946 that still receives just fine and sounds great as does my 1952 Collins 75A-2 .
On the transmitting side , my original Heathkit DX-40 that I built in 1957 still gets fired up occasionally and does the same job it did back then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a Hammarlund HQ-129X from 1946 that still receives just fine and sounds great as does my 1952 Collins 75A-2.
On the transmitting side, my original Heathkit DX-40 that I built in 1957 still gets fired up occasionally and does the same job it did back then.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133631</id>
	<title>I have a 4th generation iPod</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243522920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And it still works!  This 4th generation iPod has black and white screen that can't even show pictures.</p><p>And it's strange.  When it starts to play songs, it makes a little vibration-noise like there's a motor going inside of it.</p><p>Still, it's amazing - you can play music on it.  My Dad showed me that it had songs called "Disco" on it.  There are songs from some group called the Begees - really weird stuff that is from a history book.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I think the songs may be even older than the 4th generation iPod.  Hard to believe that the iTouch came from something as clunky as this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And it still works !
This 4th generation iPod has black and white screen that ca n't even show pictures.And it 's strange .
When it starts to play songs , it makes a little vibration-noise like there 's a motor going inside of it.Still , it 's amazing - you can play music on it .
My Dad showed me that it had songs called " Disco " on it .
There are songs from some group called the Begees - really weird stuff that is from a history book .
    I think the songs may be even older than the 4th generation iPod .
Hard to believe that the iTouch came from something as clunky as this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And it still works!
This 4th generation iPod has black and white screen that can't even show pictures.And it's strange.
When it starts to play songs, it makes a little vibration-noise like there's a motor going inside of it.Still, it's amazing - you can play music on it.
My Dad showed me that it had songs called "Disco" on it.
There are songs from some group called the Begees - really weird stuff that is from a history book.
    I think the songs may be even older than the 4th generation iPod.
Hard to believe that the iTouch came from something as clunky as this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137525</id>
	<title>Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap</title>
	<author>shadedream</author>
	<datestamp>1243605720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet it'd beat out AT&amp;T's 3G network as well<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet it 'd beat out AT&amp;T 's 3G network as well ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet it'd beat out AT&amp;T's 3G network as well ;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129121</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129097</id>
	<title>Re:Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1243544280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many times have you used it period?</p><p>Also, how many times have you used it in your professional life, or have you never used it when there might have been a better tool for the job?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many times have you used it period ? Also , how many times have you used it in your professional life , or have you never used it when there might have been a better tool for the job ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many times have you used it period?Also, how many times have you used it in your professional life, or have you never used it when there might have been a better tool for the job?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129021</id>
	<title>My old equipment</title>
	<author>qwertyatwork</author>
	<datestamp>1243544040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have an IDE card, a keyboard card, a mouse card, and a token ring adapter.  I don't know how old they are, but the keyboard card keeps telling me to get off his lawn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an IDE card , a keyboard card , a mouse card , and a token ring adapter .
I do n't know how old they are , but the keyboard card keeps telling me to get off his lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an IDE card, a keyboard card, a mouse card, and a token ring adapter.
I don't know how old they are, but the keyboard card keeps telling me to get off his lawn.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137797</id>
	<title>The oldest Tech</title>
	<author>mprindle</author>
	<datestamp>1243607220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The oldest machine that I work on is a QBUS Digital RT Vax 1000.  It has a whopping 80 MB MFM hard drive that is about 3x as big as a 5.25" hard drive.  The machine dates back to the early 80's.  Amazingly enough the machines still run pretty well.  Once you get them booted they'll run for years.  The weakest point of them is the hard drive.  It's not uncommon to have a 20 - 30\% failure rate on drives fresh back from repair.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest machine that I work on is a QBUS Digital RT Vax 1000 .
It has a whopping 80 MB MFM hard drive that is about 3x as big as a 5.25 " hard drive .
The machine dates back to the early 80 's .
Amazingly enough the machines still run pretty well .
Once you get them booted they 'll run for years .
The weakest point of them is the hard drive .
It 's not uncommon to have a 20 - 30 \ % failure rate on drives fresh back from repair .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest machine that I work on is a QBUS Digital RT Vax 1000.
It has a whopping 80 MB MFM hard drive that is about 3x as big as a 5.25" hard drive.
The machine dates back to the early 80's.
Amazingly enough the machines still run pretty well.
Once you get them booted they'll run for years.
The weakest point of them is the hard drive.
It's not uncommon to have a 20 - 30\% failure rate on drives fresh back from repair.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130347</id>
	<title>Windows?</title>
	<author>Jake Griffin</author>
	<datestamp>1243505640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm running Windows Vista on my work computer, and I hear Vista still has some code errors involving dates that goes back to Windows 3.1 because they wanted it to be "compatible." Maintaining bugs for the sake of compatibility. Leave it to MS. So, it's not hardware, but I'm running 17 yr old software (Win 3.1 was from 1992).<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm running Windows Vista on my work computer , and I hear Vista still has some code errors involving dates that goes back to Windows 3.1 because they wanted it to be " compatible .
" Maintaining bugs for the sake of compatibility .
Leave it to MS. So , it 's not hardware , but I 'm running 17 yr old software ( Win 3.1 was from 1992 ) .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm running Windows Vista on my work computer, and I hear Vista still has some code errors involving dates that goes back to Windows 3.1 because they wanted it to be "compatible.
" Maintaining bugs for the sake of compatibility.
Leave it to MS. So, it's not hardware, but I'm running 17 yr old software (Win 3.1 was from 1992).
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127459</id>
	<title>Does test equipment count?</title>
	<author>slaker</author>
	<datestamp>1243539600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.<br>It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works , but I 've only had to use it about three times in my professional life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep a Hewlitt-Packard oscilloscope out in my car that was manufactured sometime in the mid-50s.It still works, but I've only had to use it about three times in my professional life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128929</id>
	<title>Do consoles count?</title>
	<author>rafemonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1243543680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Sega Master System I still play from time to time. It was released back in 1985, which makes it 24 years old. Mostly I play Fantasy Zone, one of the first "cute 'em ups" and Spellcaster, a strange hybrid of platformer and point and click adventure.</p><p>As for computers, I have a Sony HB-75, which is from 1984. But I'm in the middle of repairing the keyboard (hard to find those microswitches these days). Mostly I use it for fun Basic programing and playing Hydlide, my one MSX cartridge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Sega Master System I still play from time to time .
It was released back in 1985 , which makes it 24 years old .
Mostly I play Fantasy Zone , one of the first " cute 'em ups " and Spellcaster , a strange hybrid of platformer and point and click adventure.As for computers , I have a Sony HB-75 , which is from 1984 .
But I 'm in the middle of repairing the keyboard ( hard to find those microswitches these days ) .
Mostly I use it for fun Basic programing and playing Hydlide , my one MSX cartridge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Sega Master System I still play from time to time.
It was released back in 1985, which makes it 24 years old.
Mostly I play Fantasy Zone, one of the first "cute 'em ups" and Spellcaster, a strange hybrid of platformer and point and click adventure.As for computers, I have a Sony HB-75, which is from 1984.
But I'm in the middle of repairing the keyboard (hard to find those microswitches these days).
Mostly I use it for fun Basic programing and playing Hydlide, my one MSX cartridge.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130893</id>
	<title>c1984 - Commodore 64</title>
	<author>jekewa</author>
	<datestamp>1243508220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Commodore 64 and Amiga 500 are still functioning, 'though not pulled out of the garage in a while. So I've got mid-1980s tech. Got an old Apple Mac II out there, too, but I think that was from later in the '80s or early '90s...got it second-hand.
</p><p>
My favorite cell phone is still in the basement, but no carriers around here support the original Motorola brick. Got mine about 1991-92. Sweet 9-number memory, and one-line 10-digit display!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Commodore 64 and Amiga 500 are still functioning , 'though not pulled out of the garage in a while .
So I 've got mid-1980s tech .
Got an old Apple Mac II out there , too , but I think that was from later in the '80s or early '90s...got it second-hand .
My favorite cell phone is still in the basement , but no carriers around here support the original Motorola brick .
Got mine about 1991-92 .
Sweet 9-number memory , and one-line 10-digit display !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Commodore 64 and Amiga 500 are still functioning, 'though not pulled out of the garage in a while.
So I've got mid-1980s tech.
Got an old Apple Mac II out there, too, but I think that was from later in the '80s or early '90s...got it second-hand.
My favorite cell phone is still in the basement, but no carriers around here support the original Motorola brick.
Got mine about 1991-92.
Sweet 9-number memory, and one-line 10-digit display!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129349</id>
	<title>Play "Where in the [x] is Carmen Sandiego" on A-2</title>
	<author>Anonymous Freak</author>
	<datestamp>1243501920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still occasionally play the various Carmen Sandiego games on my old Apple II.  Just picked up sealed boxed copies of old early '80s arcade games for the Apple II, too.  My daughter is just getting to the right age for some of these old games, and I can't wait to introduce her to LOGO.  (I was six when I started out on LOGO on an Apple II+.  The school had three of them in the library, and it was a special honor to get to use the computers.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still occasionally play the various Carmen Sandiego games on my old Apple II .
Just picked up sealed boxed copies of old early '80s arcade games for the Apple II , too .
My daughter is just getting to the right age for some of these old games , and I ca n't wait to introduce her to LOGO .
( I was six when I started out on LOGO on an Apple II + .
The school had three of them in the library , and it was a special honor to get to use the computers .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still occasionally play the various Carmen Sandiego games on my old Apple II.
Just picked up sealed boxed copies of old early '80s arcade games for the Apple II, too.
My daughter is just getting to the right age for some of these old games, and I can't wait to introduce her to LOGO.
(I was six when I started out on LOGO on an Apple II+.
The school had three of them in the library, and it was a special honor to get to use the computers.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128275</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243541880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ditto, typing this message using that keyboard. Stamped 1990-10-22 on a label, making it. hmm.. 19 years now..<br>Also have my 1985 Amstrad CPC GT65 monitor around in working condition (although sold my dear Amstrad).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ditto , typing this message using that keyboard .
Stamped 1990-10-22 on a label , making it .
hmm.. 19 years now..Also have my 1985 Amstrad CPC GT65 monitor around in working condition ( although sold my dear Amstrad ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ditto, typing this message using that keyboard.
Stamped 1990-10-22 on a label, making it.
hmm.. 19 years now..Also have my 1985 Amstrad CPC GT65 monitor around in working condition (although sold my dear Amstrad).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128689</id>
	<title>HP 15C</title>
	<author>mce</author>
	<datestamp>1243542900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since the question only specifies "equipment" and not computer stuff in the understanding of today's whizkids, that would be my HP 15C calculator. I got that little gem in the autumn of 1983 or nearly 26 years ago. Amazingly, it is still only on it's second set of batteries (they are close to needing replacement, though). I love that calculator so much that, since about two years or so, I install a complete HP 15C emulator (including the looks) on every computer that I use. Nothing beats the real thing, however.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the question only specifies " equipment " and not computer stuff in the understanding of today 's whizkids , that would be my HP 15C calculator .
I got that little gem in the autumn of 1983 or nearly 26 years ago .
Amazingly , it is still only on it 's second set of batteries ( they are close to needing replacement , though ) .
I love that calculator so much that , since about two years or so , I install a complete HP 15C emulator ( including the looks ) on every computer that I use .
Nothing beats the real thing , however .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the question only specifies "equipment" and not computer stuff in the understanding of today's whizkids, that would be my HP 15C calculator.
I got that little gem in the autumn of 1983 or nearly 26 years ago.
Amazingly, it is still only on it's second set of batteries (they are close to needing replacement, though).
I love that calculator so much that, since about two years or so, I install a complete HP 15C emulator (including the looks) on every computer that I use.
Nothing beats the real thing, however.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130087</id>
	<title>Re:How Old Is My Crap: Mac ][ci</title>
	<author>againjj</author>
	<datestamp>1243504860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A used IIci was my first computer.  However, I later picked up an SE (circa 1987) which will run all the old games, like Lode Runner and Dark Castle, that we had from our 512KE (now a fishtank).  And those games require system 6 (7 causes crashes).  Do you know how fast a computer running system 6 on a hard drive boots?  How about under 10 seconds?</htmltext>
<tokenext>A used IIci was my first computer .
However , I later picked up an SE ( circa 1987 ) which will run all the old games , like Lode Runner and Dark Castle , that we had from our 512KE ( now a fishtank ) .
And those games require system 6 ( 7 causes crashes ) .
Do you know how fast a computer running system 6 on a hard drive boots ?
How about under 10 seconds ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A used IIci was my first computer.
However, I later picked up an SE (circa 1987) which will run all the old games, like Lode Runner and Dark Castle, that we had from our 512KE (now a fishtank).
And those games require system 6 (7 causes crashes).
Do you know how fast a computer running system 6 on a hard drive boots?
How about under 10 seconds?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127593</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28135417</id>
	<title>Almost 30 years back, TRS-80</title>
	<author>steeker</author>
	<datestamp>1243539300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Somewhere in a box, I have an old TRS-80 Model 1 system from around 1980.  Been years, but it worked last time I tried it.  Can't find the cassette recorder for storing programs though...  But I do have the 300-baud modem with it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somewhere in a box , I have an old TRS-80 Model 1 system from around 1980 .
Been years , but it worked last time I tried it .
Ca n't find the cassette recorder for storing programs though... But I do have the 300-baud modem with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somewhere in a box, I have an old TRS-80 Model 1 system from around 1980.
Been years, but it worked last time I tried it.
Can't find the cassette recorder for storing programs though...  But I do have the 300-baud modem with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131189</id>
	<title>heh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243509480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got 2 Amiga 3000 desktops ca. 1991 which are two of the six networked computers in my house.</p><p>I also have an A500, an A2000, a CD32, 2 Apple IIes, a Timex Sinclair 1000, some old early Pentium/II/Pro boxes, and even a 486 box. Most of that stuff is in boxes -- still all works though.</p><p>The A3000s are more dependable than any machine I've purchased since. Slow by today's standards *for some operations*, but dependable.</p><p>Well, you asked<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got 2 Amiga 3000 desktops ca .
1991 which are two of the six networked computers in my house.I also have an A500 , an A2000 , a CD32 , 2 Apple IIes , a Timex Sinclair 1000 , some old early Pentium/II/Pro boxes , and even a 486 box .
Most of that stuff is in boxes -- still all works though.The A3000s are more dependable than any machine I 've purchased since .
Slow by today 's standards * for some operations * , but dependable.Well , you asked : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got 2 Amiga 3000 desktops ca.
1991 which are two of the six networked computers in my house.I also have an A500, an A2000, a CD32, 2 Apple IIes, a Timex Sinclair 1000, some old early Pentium/II/Pro boxes, and even a 486 box.
Most of that stuff is in boxes -- still all works though.The A3000s are more dependable than any machine I've purchased since.
Slow by today's standards *for some operations*, but dependable.Well, you asked :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127475</id>
	<title>TI-99/4A</title>
	<author>royallthefourth</author>
	<datestamp>1243539660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>16-bit processor and hardware speech synthesis in 1979. It was a real pioneering home computer, and mine still works, too! It even had add-ons for cassette tape, disk drives, printers, and modems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>16-bit processor and hardware speech synthesis in 1979 .
It was a real pioneering home computer , and mine still works , too !
It even had add-ons for cassette tape , disk drives , printers , and modems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>16-bit processor and hardware speech synthesis in 1979.
It was a real pioneering home computer, and mine still works, too!
It even had add-ons for cassette tape, disk drives, printers, and modems.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128187</id>
	<title>I'm sure this isn't a record</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243541640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The oldest thing I have is a <a href="http://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/v10n1/100\_The\_PCPI\_AppliCard.php" title="atarimagazines.com">PCPI Applicard</a> [atarimagazines.com] that I bought circa 1984.</p><p>I actually overclocked the thing to 10 MHz by replacing the CPU with a Z80-H, replacing the RAM with faster chips, replacing the crystal with a 20 MHz one, and replacing the NOT gate chip being used to oscillate the crystal with a mil-spec version that could go that fast. At the time, it was able to compile code in Turbo Pascal so fast that you couldn't see the line numbers from under the blur of the overstriking cursor. I brought it into school one day and it was actually faster at compiling code than the then reasonably state of the art PCs they had on hand.</p><p>In fact, the Applicard was a CP/M machine of its own writ small. It was a Z-80 with 64K of RAM and communicated over a single-byte parallel port with the host. The 6502 ran full speed while acting more or less as an I/O coprocessor for the Applicard. I even wrote some 6502 device drivers for it so that I could run CP/M from my hard disk and could use the 800K 3.5" floppies. I even got it working with my old <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novation\_CAT" title="wikipedia.org">Apple Cat</a> [wikipedia.org] at one point.</p><p>Alas, I no longer have an Apple ][ to use it in, so it just collects dust in the garage.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest thing I have is a PCPI Applicard [ atarimagazines.com ] that I bought circa 1984.I actually overclocked the thing to 10 MHz by replacing the CPU with a Z80-H , replacing the RAM with faster chips , replacing the crystal with a 20 MHz one , and replacing the NOT gate chip being used to oscillate the crystal with a mil-spec version that could go that fast .
At the time , it was able to compile code in Turbo Pascal so fast that you could n't see the line numbers from under the blur of the overstriking cursor .
I brought it into school one day and it was actually faster at compiling code than the then reasonably state of the art PCs they had on hand.In fact , the Applicard was a CP/M machine of its own writ small .
It was a Z-80 with 64K of RAM and communicated over a single-byte parallel port with the host .
The 6502 ran full speed while acting more or less as an I/O coprocessor for the Applicard .
I even wrote some 6502 device drivers for it so that I could run CP/M from my hard disk and could use the 800K 3.5 " floppies .
I even got it working with my old Apple Cat [ wikipedia.org ] at one point.Alas , I no longer have an Apple ] [ to use it in , so it just collects dust in the garage .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest thing I have is a PCPI Applicard [atarimagazines.com] that I bought circa 1984.I actually overclocked the thing to 10 MHz by replacing the CPU with a Z80-H, replacing the RAM with faster chips, replacing the crystal with a 20 MHz one, and replacing the NOT gate chip being used to oscillate the crystal with a mil-spec version that could go that fast.
At the time, it was able to compile code in Turbo Pascal so fast that you couldn't see the line numbers from under the blur of the overstriking cursor.
I brought it into school one day and it was actually faster at compiling code than the then reasonably state of the art PCs they had on hand.In fact, the Applicard was a CP/M machine of its own writ small.
It was a Z-80 with 64K of RAM and communicated over a single-byte parallel port with the host.
The 6502 ran full speed while acting more or less as an I/O coprocessor for the Applicard.
I even wrote some 6502 device drivers for it so that I could run CP/M from my hard disk and could use the 800K 3.5" floppies.
I even got it working with my old Apple Cat [wikipedia.org] at one point.Alas, I no longer have an Apple ][ to use it in, so it just collects dust in the garage.
:(</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133431</id>
	<title>phoney</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243521420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My cellphone is 10 years old</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My cellphone is 10 years old</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My cellphone is 10 years old</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128647</id>
	<title>PONG!</title>
	<author>FishAdmin</author>
	<datestamp>1243542780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oldest one I own that still functions is an original Atari PONG home console from 1976 (model C-100).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oldest one I own that still functions is an original Atari PONG home console from 1976 ( model C-100 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oldest one I own that still functions is an original Atari PONG home console from 1976 (model C-100).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129331</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243501860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's not funny; I remember seeing a news story on it a few years ago.</p><p>There really are a few of them out there from back when phones were so expensive that Bell rented them to you since almost no one could afford to purchase one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not funny ; I remember seeing a news story on it a few years ago.There really are a few of them out there from back when phones were so expensive that Bell rented them to you since almost no one could afford to purchase one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not funny; I remember seeing a news story on it a few years ago.There really are a few of them out there from back when phones were so expensive that Bell rented them to you since almost no one could afford to purchase one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128971</id>
	<title>I just repaired my Western Digital phone</title>
	<author>kalpol</author>
	<datestamp>1243543800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Black rotary phone, 1952, still works on pulse dial (if you time it right, you can dial it with the switchhook).  Didn't ring, but figured how to rewire it thanks to the Internet, now it RIIINNNGGSS when I get a call.

I also have a Powerbook 140, with a working modem...i need to find a SCSI ethernet adapter and it will surf the net with Netscape 1.1.

I have a Newton, too, I heard those were networkable.

I have a TI-99/4a, I think it has a modem packed with it. I need to dig that out and see what it can do.

Last but not least, Commodore VIC-20, and I know modems were made for those because it says so on the box but I haven't been able to track one down yet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Black rotary phone , 1952 , still works on pulse dial ( if you time it right , you can dial it with the switchhook ) .
Did n't ring , but figured how to rewire it thanks to the Internet , now it RIIINNNGGSS when I get a call .
I also have a Powerbook 140 , with a working modem...i need to find a SCSI ethernet adapter and it will surf the net with Netscape 1.1 .
I have a Newton , too , I heard those were networkable .
I have a TI-99/4a , I think it has a modem packed with it .
I need to dig that out and see what it can do .
Last but not least , Commodore VIC-20 , and I know modems were made for those because it says so on the box but I have n't been able to track one down yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Black rotary phone, 1952, still works on pulse dial (if you time it right, you can dial it with the switchhook).
Didn't ring, but figured how to rewire it thanks to the Internet, now it RIIINNNGGSS when I get a call.
I also have a Powerbook 140, with a working modem...i need to find a SCSI ethernet adapter and it will surf the net with Netscape 1.1.
I have a Newton, too, I heard those were networkable.
I have a TI-99/4a, I think it has a modem packed with it.
I need to dig that out and see what it can do.
Last but not least, Commodore VIC-20, and I know modems were made for those because it says so on the box but I haven't been able to track one down yet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129277</id>
	<title>Re:Anyone still paying for a phone?</title>
	<author>newcastlejon</author>
	<datestamp>1243501740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We have a red GPO (from when the Post Office ran the telephones) phone at home, which still works when plugged in (having wired an RJ11 to the end), even though it's pulse dial. Best of all, it's red! Fun being able to pretend you have the soviet premier on the other end of the hot line, what.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We have a red GPO ( from when the Post Office ran the telephones ) phone at home , which still works when plugged in ( having wired an RJ11 to the end ) , even though it 's pulse dial .
Best of all , it 's red !
Fun being able to pretend you have the soviet premier on the other end of the hot line , what .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We have a red GPO (from when the Post Office ran the telephones) phone at home, which still works when plugged in (having wired an RJ11 to the end), even though it's pulse dial.
Best of all, it's red!
Fun being able to pretend you have the soviet premier on the other end of the hot line, what.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127525</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127957</id>
	<title>I've got a Babbage engine that says---</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243541040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you're all a bunch of wannabes</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you 're all a bunch of wannabes</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you're all a bunch of wannabes</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127563</id>
	<title>Well, it's no spring chicken</title>
	<author>hyades1</author>
	<datestamp>1243539840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> I've still got a working Apple 2c and a custom-modified dot matrix printer to use with it. </p><p> And a rock.  I've got a rock.  I bet it would still do the same job some caveman would have used it for if he found out the chief was shagging his cave-mate, though I just use it as a doorstop. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've still got a working Apple 2c and a custom-modified dot matrix printer to use with it .
And a rock .
I 've got a rock .
I bet it would still do the same job some caveman would have used it for if he found out the chief was shagging his cave-mate , though I just use it as a doorstop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I've still got a working Apple 2c and a custom-modified dot matrix printer to use with it.
And a rock.
I've got a rock.
I bet it would still do the same job some caveman would have used it for if he found out the chief was shagging his cave-mate, though I just use it as a doorstop. </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</id>
	<title>Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard.  I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard .
I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard.
I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129365</id>
	<title>Re:Old</title>
	<author>tsstahl</author>
	<datestamp>1243501980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Got proof?
<br> <br>
It's all about the pedigree, ya know...
<br> <br>
I have a source that says it is only about 6000 thousand years old...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Got proof ?
It 's all about the pedigree , ya know.. . I have a source that says it is only about 6000 thousand years old.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Got proof?
It's all about the pedigree, ya know...
 
I have a source that says it is only about 6000 thousand years old...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127911</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128707</id>
	<title>Rock</title>
	<author>TheLink</author>
	<datestamp>1243543020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How about rocks? They're useful for clue applications.<br><br>And many of them are at least 6000 years old<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:).</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about rocks ?
They 're useful for clue applications.And many of them are at least 6000 years old : ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about rocks?
They're useful for clue applications.And many of them are at least 6000 years old :).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128733</id>
	<title>PPP</title>
	<author>inertia@yahoo.com</author>
	<datestamp>1243543080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He later said that he actually got PPP working over it recently.  He had to set up a custom PPP server with relaxed timeouts.  <i>"DNS alone saturated the line for minutes.  56 bit PING times were in the 5000ms range. The web 'just didn`t work' with that kind of latency.  App protocols time out too. Wheeeee!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)"</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He later said that he actually got PPP working over it recently .
He had to set up a custom PPP server with relaxed timeouts .
" DNS alone saturated the line for minutes .
56 bit PING times were in the 5000ms range .
The web 'just didn ` t work ' with that kind of latency .
App protocols time out too .
Wheeeee ! : - ) "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He later said that he actually got PPP working over it recently.
He had to set up a custom PPP server with relaxed timeouts.
"DNS alone saturated the line for minutes.
56 bit PING times were in the 5000ms range.
The web 'just didn`t work' with that kind of latency.
App protocols time out too.
Wheeeee! :-)"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127811</id>
	<title>Re:oldest piece of "equipment"</title>
	<author>LordKaT</author>
	<datestamp>1243540620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>bing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>bing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bing!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127397</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127991</id>
	<title>What counts as 'tech'?</title>
	<author>smellsofbikes</author>
	<datestamp>1243541160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My 1989 Amiga is plugged in and runs fine (booted it up about a month ago.)<br>My 1968 HP 182C oscilloscope still works pretty well.<br>My (grandfather's, which I inherited) Simpson 1932 voltmeter works okay, as does a roughly 1940 Starrett 0.0001" (yes, ten thousandths of an inch) dial indicator.<br>My (great grandfather's) post vise for blacksmithing, from circa 1880, also works pretty well.<br>A set of andirons for a fireplace is also<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... functional? and I have no idea how old they are, but I know they've been in the family since the 1840's.  The threaded fasteners that attach the top bit (knewel?) to the body appear to be hand-filed, although the nut-like objects are tap-threaded.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My 1989 Amiga is plugged in and runs fine ( booted it up about a month ago .
) My 1968 HP 182C oscilloscope still works pretty well.My ( grandfather 's , which I inherited ) Simpson 1932 voltmeter works okay , as does a roughly 1940 Starrett 0.0001 " ( yes , ten thousandths of an inch ) dial indicator.My ( great grandfather 's ) post vise for blacksmithing , from circa 1880 , also works pretty well.A set of andirons for a fireplace is also ... functional ? and I have no idea how old they are , but I know they 've been in the family since the 1840 's .
The threaded fasteners that attach the top bit ( knewel ?
) to the body appear to be hand-filed , although the nut-like objects are tap-threaded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My 1989 Amiga is plugged in and runs fine (booted it up about a month ago.
)My 1968 HP 182C oscilloscope still works pretty well.My (grandfather's, which I inherited) Simpson 1932 voltmeter works okay, as does a roughly 1940 Starrett 0.0001" (yes, ten thousandths of an inch) dial indicator.My (great grandfather's) post vise for blacksmithing, from circa 1880, also works pretty well.A set of andirons for a fireplace is also ... functional? and I have no idea how old they are, but I know they've been in the family since the 1840's.
The threaded fasteners that attach the top bit (knewel?
) to the body appear to be hand-filed, although the nut-like objects are tap-threaded.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129965</id>
	<title>Glass TTY</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1243504320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm amazed at the mundane responses so far...</p><p>My QVT and Wyse terminals date from the 70s.  I still routinely pull out one of them when I want a second screen on a system.  Simpler and cheaper than a second monitor, with a surprising amount of utility these days.  EVERYTHING still uses a serial port for I/O.  There are numerous times I've had an ancient terminal under-arm as I've walked into the server room...  Even the fastest laptops can't compete with the durability and instant-on of an old terminal.</p><p>As serial ports begin to diappear from laptops, and only ONE is available on most modern PCs rather than the two of old, I've long thought we are over-due for some other standard to develop for headless comms.  USB seems a likely candidate, but nobody has even begun to push such a standard as of yet.  And with higher-speed buses comes the (also long overdue) possibility of directly connected GUI terminal standards, which would offer extremely cheap multi-user access to a single system, and finally make management of Windows servers tolerable.</p><p>But I digress.  My 8-bit, 1200baud dial-up modem in my 286 feels far more antiquated than my terminals, but even there, there are unexpected benefits, like extremely fast and very reliable call-setup in just a couple seconds, rather than 30 seconds of wirrrr-graaaahhhh-zzeeeee-buzzz-beep and a roulette game to see what speed you end up getting.</p><p>I'm sure there's plenty of people here with old dot matrix printers, if not TTYs that make my equipment look young...  Even a Edison-era stock-ticker probably qualifies, since early (~50 char, all-caps) TTYs copied their line signaling standard.</p><p>Come on...  Enough of the lightweights...  Let's hear from the guys around here that have the really old computer equipment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm amazed at the mundane responses so far...My QVT and Wyse terminals date from the 70s .
I still routinely pull out one of them when I want a second screen on a system .
Simpler and cheaper than a second monitor , with a surprising amount of utility these days .
EVERYTHING still uses a serial port for I/O .
There are numerous times I 've had an ancient terminal under-arm as I 've walked into the server room... Even the fastest laptops ca n't compete with the durability and instant-on of an old terminal.As serial ports begin to diappear from laptops , and only ONE is available on most modern PCs rather than the two of old , I 've long thought we are over-due for some other standard to develop for headless comms .
USB seems a likely candidate , but nobody has even begun to push such a standard as of yet .
And with higher-speed buses comes the ( also long overdue ) possibility of directly connected GUI terminal standards , which would offer extremely cheap multi-user access to a single system , and finally make management of Windows servers tolerable.But I digress .
My 8-bit , 1200baud dial-up modem in my 286 feels far more antiquated than my terminals , but even there , there are unexpected benefits , like extremely fast and very reliable call-setup in just a couple seconds , rather than 30 seconds of wirrrr-graaaahhhh-zzeeeee-buzzz-beep and a roulette game to see what speed you end up getting.I 'm sure there 's plenty of people here with old dot matrix printers , if not TTYs that make my equipment look young... Even a Edison-era stock-ticker probably qualifies , since early ( ~ 50 char , all-caps ) TTYs copied their line signaling standard.Come on... Enough of the lightweights... Let 's hear from the guys around here that have the really old computer equipment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm amazed at the mundane responses so far...My QVT and Wyse terminals date from the 70s.
I still routinely pull out one of them when I want a second screen on a system.
Simpler and cheaper than a second monitor, with a surprising amount of utility these days.
EVERYTHING still uses a serial port for I/O.
There are numerous times I've had an ancient terminal under-arm as I've walked into the server room...  Even the fastest laptops can't compete with the durability and instant-on of an old terminal.As serial ports begin to diappear from laptops, and only ONE is available on most modern PCs rather than the two of old, I've long thought we are over-due for some other standard to develop for headless comms.
USB seems a likely candidate, but nobody has even begun to push such a standard as of yet.
And with higher-speed buses comes the (also long overdue) possibility of directly connected GUI terminal standards, which would offer extremely cheap multi-user access to a single system, and finally make management of Windows servers tolerable.But I digress.
My 8-bit, 1200baud dial-up modem in my 286 feels far more antiquated than my terminals, but even there, there are unexpected benefits, like extremely fast and very reliable call-setup in just a couple seconds, rather than 30 seconds of wirrrr-graaaahhhh-zzeeeee-buzzz-beep and a roulette game to see what speed you end up getting.I'm sure there's plenty of people here with old dot matrix printers, if not TTYs that make my equipment look young...  Even a Edison-era stock-ticker probably qualifies, since early (~50 char, all-caps) TTYs copied their line signaling standard.Come on...  Enough of the lightweights...  Let's hear from the guys around here that have the really old computer equipment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128663</id>
	<title>Sinclair (Timex) Spectrum</title>
	<author>ed</author>
	<datestamp>1243542840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>25 years old</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>25 years old</tokentext>
<sentencetext>25 years old</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132283</id>
	<title>Re:Commadore Amiga 500</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1243515060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Commadore Amiga 500</p></div>
</blockquote><p>Is that the knockoff version of the Commodore Amiga 500?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Commadore Amiga 500 Is that the knockoff version of the Commodore Amiga 500 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Commadore Amiga 500
Is that the knockoff version of the Commodore Amiga 500?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127473</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129835</id>
	<title>Re:Old</title>
	<author>XorNand</author>
	<datestamp>1243503720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A hobby of mine is woodworking.  One piece of invaluable equipment is a jointer which is used for putting a parallel face or edge on a board.  Along with a planer, a jointer is used to ensure that the boards are straight and square.  It resembles a long table with a gap in the middle that contains a rotating cutter head.</p><p>While jointers produced today have newer bells-and-whistles, the machines produced 60+ years ago are generally considered superior and are highly sought after. This is primarily because they were made of solid cast iron, which is heaver and absorbs vibration better than the stamped steel machines made now (vibration is the enemy of smooth cuts). They also last forever and are rather easy to maintain since being able to easily fix your own equipment was more of a concern than the price tag back then.</p><p>There's also a similar situation with vintage Stanley hand planes and other woodworking tools.  It's not simply a sense of nostalgia either.  These old tools are genuinely better than most off-the-shelf stuff on today's market.  I wonder if we'll ever look back on computers in the same way?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A hobby of mine is woodworking .
One piece of invaluable equipment is a jointer which is used for putting a parallel face or edge on a board .
Along with a planer , a jointer is used to ensure that the boards are straight and square .
It resembles a long table with a gap in the middle that contains a rotating cutter head.While jointers produced today have newer bells-and-whistles , the machines produced 60 + years ago are generally considered superior and are highly sought after .
This is primarily because they were made of solid cast iron , which is heaver and absorbs vibration better than the stamped steel machines made now ( vibration is the enemy of smooth cuts ) .
They also last forever and are rather easy to maintain since being able to easily fix your own equipment was more of a concern than the price tag back then.There 's also a similar situation with vintage Stanley hand planes and other woodworking tools .
It 's not simply a sense of nostalgia either .
These old tools are genuinely better than most off-the-shelf stuff on today 's market .
I wonder if we 'll ever look back on computers in the same way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A hobby of mine is woodworking.
One piece of invaluable equipment is a jointer which is used for putting a parallel face or edge on a board.
Along with a planer, a jointer is used to ensure that the boards are straight and square.
It resembles a long table with a gap in the middle that contains a rotating cutter head.While jointers produced today have newer bells-and-whistles, the machines produced 60+ years ago are generally considered superior and are highly sought after.
This is primarily because they were made of solid cast iron, which is heaver and absorbs vibration better than the stamped steel machines made now (vibration is the enemy of smooth cuts).
They also last forever and are rather easy to maintain since being able to easily fix your own equipment was more of a concern than the price tag back then.There's also a similar situation with vintage Stanley hand planes and other woodworking tools.
It's not simply a sense of nostalgia either.
These old tools are genuinely better than most off-the-shelf stuff on today's market.
I wonder if we'll ever look back on computers in the same way?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127911</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128049</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>gid</author>
	<datestamp>1243541280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oldest machine I have is an Amiga 600 bought circa 1992? when I was in HS.  Still worked when I last fired it up maybe 3-4 years ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oldest machine I have is an Amiga 600 bought circa 1992 ?
when I was in HS .
Still worked when I last fired it up maybe 3-4 years ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oldest machine I have is an Amiga 600 bought circa 1992?
when I was in HS.
Still worked when I last fired it up maybe 3-4 years ago.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127415</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132329</id>
	<title>Acorn System 1</title>
	<author>mustafap</author>
	<datestamp>1243515300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Still works, but up in the attic. I built in 1978. So nowhere near a device purchased 1 year before I was even born. Wow.</p><p>I'm still looking for a PDP-8, if anyone wants to part with one for next to nothing.</p><p>Wont swap it for the Acorn though, I love that to bits.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Still works , but up in the attic .
I built in 1978 .
So nowhere near a device purchased 1 year before I was even born .
Wow.I 'm still looking for a PDP-8 , if anyone wants to part with one for next to nothing.Wont swap it for the Acorn though , I love that to bits .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still works, but up in the attic.
I built in 1978.
So nowhere near a device purchased 1 year before I was even born.
Wow.I'm still looking for a PDP-8, if anyone wants to part with one for next to nothing.Wont swap it for the Acorn though, I love that to bits.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128465</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>risk one</author>
	<datestamp>1243542360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And I bet it still interfaces flawlessly with your modern computer. Today's engineers could learn from that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And I bet it still interfaces flawlessly with your modern computer .
Today 's engineers could learn from that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I bet it still interfaces flawlessly with your modern computer.
Today's engineers could learn from that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127425</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127609</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>creimer</author>
	<datestamp>1243540020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I got iron padlock with key that was made in the 1860s.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got iron padlock with key that was made in the 1860s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got iron padlock with key that was made in the 1860s.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128829</id>
	<title>My oldest tech, a pinball machine.</title>
	<author>rhpenguin</author>
	<datestamp>1243543380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The oldest tech gear I use on a daily basis is the MPU board in my 1980 Stern Seawitch pinball machine. The serial number is quite low, so it was made in 1980 at some point and still works like the day it was made. It's received some TLC over the years, but.. rock solid reliable.<br> <br>

Before that, my oldest tech would have been the MPU in my 1978 Stern Lectronamo. It's since been sold to make way for other machines.<br> <br>

Check out Seawitch:<br> <a href="http://ipdb.org/search.pl?searchtype=advanced&amp;mpu=34#2089" title="ipdb.org" rel="nofollow">http://ipdb.org/search.pl?searchtype=advanced&amp;mpu=34#2089</a> [ipdb.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest tech gear I use on a daily basis is the MPU board in my 1980 Stern Seawitch pinball machine .
The serial number is quite low , so it was made in 1980 at some point and still works like the day it was made .
It 's received some TLC over the years , but.. rock solid reliable .
Before that , my oldest tech would have been the MPU in my 1978 Stern Lectronamo .
It 's since been sold to make way for other machines .
Check out Seawitch : http : //ipdb.org/search.pl ? searchtype = advanced&amp;mpu = 34 # 2089 [ ipdb.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest tech gear I use on a daily basis is the MPU board in my 1980 Stern Seawitch pinball machine.
The serial number is quite low, so it was made in 1980 at some point and still works like the day it was made.
It's received some TLC over the years, but.. rock solid reliable.
Before that, my oldest tech would have been the MPU in my 1978 Stern Lectronamo.
It's since been sold to make way for other machines.
Check out Seawitch: http://ipdb.org/search.pl?searchtype=advanced&amp;mpu=34#2089 [ipdb.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132463</id>
	<title>300 baud acooustic coupled</title>
	<author>Tired and Emotional</author>
	<datestamp>1243515900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am surprised this will work with a modern phone handset. They were always very sensitive to noise and a poor fit on the cups just made that worse.
<p>
I wonder if you can still get thermal paper for a silent 700?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am surprised this will work with a modern phone handset .
They were always very sensitive to noise and a poor fit on the cups just made that worse .
I wonder if you can still get thermal paper for a silent 700 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am surprised this will work with a modern phone handset.
They were always very sensitive to noise and a poor fit on the cups just made that worse.
I wonder if you can still get thermal paper for a silent 700?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134901</id>
	<title>Tandy 100 laptop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243533480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TRS-80 based, MS Basic *is* the operating system, essentially, its how you operate it. Runs on double A's</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TRS-80 based , MS Basic * is * the operating system , essentially , its how you operate it .
Runs on double A 's</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TRS-80 based, MS Basic *is* the operating system, essentially, its how you operate it.
Runs on double A's</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134403</id>
	<title>Trash 80</title>
	<author>Coffeesloth</author>
	<datestamp>1243528560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got a couple of TRS-80 Model I Level II's in the basement.  Its been awhile but they still work...  Hey, 16K of RAM, who would ever need more?  Floppy drives?  We don't need no stinking floppy drives, we have cassette tape!
<br>
<br>
I used to have some old CP/M machines that were being thrown out at work but I gave those away when I moved from Virginia to Germany in 93.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a couple of TRS-80 Model I Level II 's in the basement .
Its been awhile but they still work... Hey , 16K of RAM , who would ever need more ?
Floppy drives ?
We do n't need no stinking floppy drives , we have cassette tape !
I used to have some old CP/M machines that were being thrown out at work but I gave those away when I moved from Virginia to Germany in 93 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a couple of TRS-80 Model I Level II's in the basement.
Its been awhile but they still work...  Hey, 16K of RAM, who would ever need more?
Floppy drives?
We don't need no stinking floppy drives, we have cassette tape!
I used to have some old CP/M machines that were being thrown out at work but I gave those away when I moved from Virginia to Germany in 93.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128617</id>
	<title>Old equipment.</title>
	<author>LoyalOpposition</author>
	<datestamp>1243542720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of my friends came up with a Western Union teletype that still had some paper with their name along one edge.  The paper was yellowed with age.  The teletype used a 5-bit baudot code, which wikipedia says Western Union stopped using in 1950.  We hacked a printer port into an Atari 800, and started putting out the baudot.  We had plans to write things like "JAPAN BOMBS PEARL HARBOR!" or "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN!" which would have looked wicked on the yellow Western Union paper, but we settled for writing things like "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog." and "All good men come to the aid of their country."</p><p>-Loyal</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my friends came up with a Western Union teletype that still had some paper with their name along one edge .
The paper was yellowed with age .
The teletype used a 5-bit baudot code , which wikipedia says Western Union stopped using in 1950 .
We hacked a printer port into an Atari 800 , and started putting out the baudot .
We had plans to write things like " JAPAN BOMBS PEARL HARBOR !
" or " DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN !
" which would have looked wicked on the yellow Western Union paper , but we settled for writing things like " The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog .
" and " All good men come to the aid of their country .
" -Loyal</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my friends came up with a Western Union teletype that still had some paper with their name along one edge.
The paper was yellowed with age.
The teletype used a 5-bit baudot code, which wikipedia says Western Union stopped using in 1950.
We hacked a printer port into an Atari 800, and started putting out the baudot.
We had plans to write things like "JAPAN BOMBS PEARL HARBOR!
" or "DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN!
" which would have looked wicked on the yellow Western Union paper, but we settled for writing things like "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.
" and "All good men come to the aid of their country.
"-Loyal</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127983</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Maximum Prophet</author>
	<datestamp>1243541100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I keep several, although I don't know when they were made.   I have some from a PC AT (5 pin DIN connector) and some from a PS/2 (6 pin mini-DIN)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep several , although I do n't know when they were made .
I have some from a PC AT ( 5 pin DIN connector ) and some from a PS/2 ( 6 pin mini-DIN )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep several, although I don't know when they were made.
I have some from a PC AT (5 pin DIN connector) and some from a PS/2 (6 pin mini-DIN)</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130157</id>
	<title>Stereo equipment?</title>
	<author>againjj</author>
	<datestamp>1243505100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When I was a kid, in the mid 80's we got a stereo cabinet containing a stereo and turntable which looked 5-10 years old.  We still have it, and it works, though it is not in active use.  So, thirty years?</htmltext>
<tokenext>When I was a kid , in the mid 80 's we got a stereo cabinet containing a stereo and turntable which looked 5-10 years old .
We still have it , and it works , though it is not in active use .
So , thirty years ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I was a kid, in the mid 80's we got a stereo cabinet containing a stereo and turntable which looked 5-10 years old.
We still have it, and it works, though it is not in active use.
So, thirty years?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127787</id>
	<title>AM Multiplex radio transmitter/rcvr built 1957 ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was my own design, done for a science fair, used 10KC (KHz) beat oscillator to move one audio channel up in frequency.<br>So it's equipment, and even electronic (tube type). Normally needs the tuning capacitor cleaned to get it to work though;<br>dust shorting it out keeps oscillators from running.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was my own design , done for a science fair , used 10KC ( KHz ) beat oscillator to move one audio channel up in frequency.So it 's equipment , and even electronic ( tube type ) .
Normally needs the tuning capacitor cleaned to get it to work though ; dust shorting it out keeps oscillators from running .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was my own design, done for a science fair, used 10KC (KHz) beat oscillator to move one audio channel up in frequency.So it's equipment, and even electronic (tube type).
Normally needs the tuning capacitor cleaned to get it to work though;dust shorting it out keeps oscillators from running.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131637</id>
	<title>old? Pah!</title>
	<author>BigBadBus</author>
	<datestamp>1243511820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am using a barely two year old laptop with all the contemporary specs.
<p>
Thing is, running Vista, with its sluggishness and lack of response, it feels 50+ years old.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am using a barely two year old laptop with all the contemporary specs .
Thing is , running Vista , with its sluggishness and lack of response , it feels 50 + years old .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am using a barely two year old laptop with all the contemporary specs.
Thing is, running Vista, with its sluggishness and lack of response, it feels 50+ years old.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130053</id>
	<title>DECtalk speech synthesizer</title>
	<author>SpinyNorman</author>
	<datestamp>1243504740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The oldest thing I still use is a DECtalk speech synthesizer dating to 1984.</p><p>It's a huge VCR-size box with a 68000 (a giant 3" long DIP chip) based board inside that converts text coming in on a serial port (DB-25) to speech. It also supports phoneme input and is flexible enough that it can do a passable job of singing. It can also connect to a phone and answer calls, response to DTMF touch tones, etc, if you want it to - you can use it to create touch tone driven voice response systems.</p><p>This was one of the first commercial speech synthesizers, and was based on years of research done at MIT.</p><p>Unlike most modern speech synthesizers that basically concatenate small human speech snippets to create their output, the DECtalk is what is called a formant synthesizer - it simulates the human speech generation process whereby the sound produced by the vocal chords is shaped by the resonant frequencies (aka formants) of the mouth. It's a much more flexible approach - seeing as your controlling the speech generation process, you can programatically create new voice, create your own intonation, make it sing, etc.</p><p>I've also got a couple of c. 1977 Processor Technology Sol-20 computers (an old S-100 bus 8080-based computer, with wooden side panels!), complete with their 8" floppy drive subsystem, at home collecting dust - not sure if they still work or not.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The oldest thing I still use is a DECtalk speech synthesizer dating to 1984.It 's a huge VCR-size box with a 68000 ( a giant 3 " long DIP chip ) based board inside that converts text coming in on a serial port ( DB-25 ) to speech .
It also supports phoneme input and is flexible enough that it can do a passable job of singing .
It can also connect to a phone and answer calls , response to DTMF touch tones , etc , if you want it to - you can use it to create touch tone driven voice response systems.This was one of the first commercial speech synthesizers , and was based on years of research done at MIT.Unlike most modern speech synthesizers that basically concatenate small human speech snippets to create their output , the DECtalk is what is called a formant synthesizer - it simulates the human speech generation process whereby the sound produced by the vocal chords is shaped by the resonant frequencies ( aka formants ) of the mouth .
It 's a much more flexible approach - seeing as your controlling the speech generation process , you can programatically create new voice , create your own intonation , make it sing , etc.I 've also got a couple of c. 1977 Processor Technology Sol-20 computers ( an old S-100 bus 8080-based computer , with wooden side panels !
) , complete with their 8 " floppy drive subsystem , at home collecting dust - not sure if they still work or not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The oldest thing I still use is a DECtalk speech synthesizer dating to 1984.It's a huge VCR-size box with a 68000 (a giant 3" long DIP chip) based board inside that converts text coming in on a serial port (DB-25) to speech.
It also supports phoneme input and is flexible enough that it can do a passable job of singing.
It can also connect to a phone and answer calls, response to DTMF touch tones, etc, if you want it to - you can use it to create touch tone driven voice response systems.This was one of the first commercial speech synthesizers, and was based on years of research done at MIT.Unlike most modern speech synthesizers that basically concatenate small human speech snippets to create their output, the DECtalk is what is called a formant synthesizer - it simulates the human speech generation process whereby the sound produced by the vocal chords is shaped by the resonant frequencies (aka formants) of the mouth.
It's a much more flexible approach - seeing as your controlling the speech generation process, you can programatically create new voice, create your own intonation, make it sing, etc.I've also got a couple of c. 1977 Processor Technology Sol-20 computers (an old S-100 bus 8080-based computer, with wooden side panels!
), complete with their 8" floppy drive subsystem, at home collecting dust - not sure if they still work or not.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128481</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>divide overflow</author>
	<datestamp>1243542360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard.  I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies.</p></div><p>I also use a couple of IBM Model M keyboards. I'm typing this using the older one, made on Aug 26, 1987.  And I still use one of my pair of US Robotics Dual Standard modems for sending and receiving faxes.
<br> <br>
Good quality PC keyboards are perhaps the least deprecated of computer hardware, possibly followed by large screen monitors.  But with the advent of high quality LCD monitors (8bpp or better, possibly with LED backlighting) I think my 21" CRT Sony G520 will soon be headed to the big recycling bin in the sky.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard .
I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies.I also use a couple of IBM Model M keyboards .
I 'm typing this using the older one , made on Aug 26 , 1987 .
And I still use one of my pair of US Robotics Dual Standard modems for sending and receiving faxes .
Good quality PC keyboards are perhaps the least deprecated of computer hardware , possibly followed by large screen monitors .
But with the advent of high quality LCD monitors ( 8bpp or better , possibly with LED backlighting ) I think my 21 " CRT Sony G520 will soon be headed to the big recycling bin in the sky .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still use my old 1984 IBM Model M Keyboard.
I will weep when/if that keyboard ever dies.I also use a couple of IBM Model M keyboards.
I'm typing this using the older one, made on Aug 26, 1987.
And I still use one of my pair of US Robotics Dual Standard modems for sending and receiving faxes.
Good quality PC keyboards are perhaps the least deprecated of computer hardware, possibly followed by large screen monitors.
But with the advent of high quality LCD monitors (8bpp or better, possibly with LED backlighting) I think my 21" CRT Sony G520 will soon be headed to the big recycling bin in the sky.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28138159</id>
	<title>1970s Era working systems</title>
	<author>rclandrum</author>
	<datestamp>1243608840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I restore early systems as a hobby and have the following in bootable, working condition:<br> <br>

An 1976 IMSAI 8080 with 64K RAM, dual 8 inch floppies, and 5.25 and 3.5 drives, equipped with a Centronics printer and a ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader.<br> <br>

A 1977 Genrad Futuredata firmware development system with dual 8 inch floppies and EPROM burner<br> <br>

A 1974-era duplicate of Jonathan Titus's Mark-8, a 16K 8008-based system as shown in July 1974 Radio Electronics<br> <br>

Recently sold my working 1975/76 Altair 8800 with dual fixed-format 8 inch floppies, 64K RAM, Centronics printer, ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader.  All original MITS boards.  Would boot Bill Gates original BASIC, as well as Altair DOS and CP/M 2.2. Complete with original doc in MITS binders.<br> <br>

A 1977 TRS-80 Model I 16K<br> <br>

A good number of misc S-100 boards for IMSAI and Altair<br> <br>

80's stuff:<br> <br>

Original 128K Macintosh with dual 3.5 drives - boots and runs<br> <br>

Cromemco SBC with 3K Basic in ROM<br> <br>

Masscomp 68010 RT Unix  - boots and runs<br> <br>

A bunch of old accoustic modems...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I restore early systems as a hobby and have the following in bootable , working condition : An 1976 IMSAI 8080 with 64K RAM , dual 8 inch floppies , and 5.25 and 3.5 drives , equipped with a Centronics printer and a ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader .
A 1977 Genrad Futuredata firmware development system with dual 8 inch floppies and EPROM burner A 1974-era duplicate of Jonathan Titus 's Mark-8 , a 16K 8008-based system as shown in July 1974 Radio Electronics Recently sold my working 1975/76 Altair 8800 with dual fixed-format 8 inch floppies , 64K RAM , Centronics printer , ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader .
All original MITS boards .
Would boot Bill Gates original BASIC , as well as Altair DOS and CP/M 2.2 .
Complete with original doc in MITS binders .
A 1977 TRS-80 Model I 16K A good number of misc S-100 boards for IMSAI and Altair 80 's stuff : Original 128K Macintosh with dual 3.5 drives - boots and runs Cromemco SBC with 3K Basic in ROM Masscomp 68010 RT Unix - boots and runs A bunch of old accoustic modems.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I restore early systems as a hobby and have the following in bootable, working condition: 

An 1976 IMSAI 8080 with 64K RAM, dual 8 inch floppies, and 5.25 and 3.5 drives, equipped with a Centronics printer and a ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader.
A 1977 Genrad Futuredata firmware development system with dual 8 inch floppies and EPROM burner 

A 1974-era duplicate of Jonathan Titus's Mark-8, a 16K 8008-based system as shown in July 1974 Radio Electronics 

Recently sold my working 1975/76 Altair 8800 with dual fixed-format 8 inch floppies, 64K RAM, Centronics printer, ASR33 Teletype with paper tape reader.
All original MITS boards.
Would boot Bill Gates original BASIC, as well as Altair DOS and CP/M 2.2.
Complete with original doc in MITS binders.
A 1977 TRS-80 Model I 16K 

A good number of misc S-100 boards for IMSAI and Altair 

80's stuff: 

Original 128K Macintosh with dual 3.5 drives - boots and runs 

Cromemco SBC with 3K Basic in ROM 

Masscomp 68010 RT Unix  - boots and runs 

A bunch of old accoustic modems...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130389</id>
	<title>TI SR50 calculator.. DEC MVAX.. PDP-11's.. C pgms</title>
	<author>neurocutie</author>
	<datestamp>1243505880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Aside from stereo equipment (I have some old Dynaco speakers and a Dual turntable, for example), the oldest piece of electronic equipment that I regularly use is probably my TI SR50 scientific calculator, which I bought new in college in 1974 for $125.</p><p>I also regularly use several DEC MicroVAX systems, circa 1988. I have some working DEC PDP-11 cards, but I don't really use them.</p><p>I also have some C programs that I wrote around 1976 that I still use...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Aside from stereo equipment ( I have some old Dynaco speakers and a Dual turntable , for example ) , the oldest piece of electronic equipment that I regularly use is probably my TI SR50 scientific calculator , which I bought new in college in 1974 for $ 125.I also regularly use several DEC MicroVAX systems , circa 1988 .
I have some working DEC PDP-11 cards , but I do n't really use them.I also have some C programs that I wrote around 1976 that I still use.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aside from stereo equipment (I have some old Dynaco speakers and a Dual turntable, for example), the oldest piece of electronic equipment that I regularly use is probably my TI SR50 scientific calculator, which I bought new in college in 1974 for $125.I also regularly use several DEC MicroVAX systems, circa 1988.
I have some working DEC PDP-11 cards, but I don't really use them.I also have some C programs that I wrote around 1976 that I still use...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28134383</id>
	<title>Old Style "Portable Computer"</title>
	<author>this\_is\_art</author>
	<datestamp>1243528440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I still have the slide rule that I received in about 1959 in junior high.  It's a good companion for the monochrome vacuum tube TV and the mid-50's military radar transponder.  Honestly though I have to keep this stuff out of my wife's way in order to avoid unwanted scrutiny of my vacuum tube collection and the books about designing circuits with vacuum tubes, and the use of analog computers to solve engineering problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have the slide rule that I received in about 1959 in junior high .
It 's a good companion for the monochrome vacuum tube TV and the mid-50 's military radar transponder .
Honestly though I have to keep this stuff out of my wife 's way in order to avoid unwanted scrutiny of my vacuum tube collection and the books about designing circuits with vacuum tubes , and the use of analog computers to solve engineering problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have the slide rule that I received in about 1959 in junior high.
It's a good companion for the monochrome vacuum tube TV and the mid-50's military radar transponder.
Honestly though I have to keep this stuff out of my wife's way in order to avoid unwanted scrutiny of my vacuum tube collection and the books about designing circuits with vacuum tubes, and the use of analog computers to solve engineering problems.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137135</id>
	<title>Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard"</title>
	<author>john83</author>
	<datestamp>1243603380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Once, as an undergraduate, I complained about the lack of a standard connector for mobile phone rechargers in the presence of one of my lecturers. He countered that if you standardise, you limit future innovation. USB is a much more useful connector than PS/2, and if it matters that much, there are always converters.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once , as an undergraduate , I complained about the lack of a standard connector for mobile phone rechargers in the presence of one of my lecturers .
He countered that if you standardise , you limit future innovation .
USB is a much more useful connector than PS/2 , and if it matters that much , there are always converters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once, as an undergraduate, I complained about the lack of a standard connector for mobile phone rechargers in the presence of one of my lecturers.
He countered that if you standardise, you limit future innovation.
USB is a much more useful connector than PS/2, and if it matters that much, there are always converters.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129619</id>
	<title>I use my brain...</title>
	<author>gestalt\_n\_pepper</author>
	<datestamp>1243502820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...which is 51 years old. A little out of date and throughput has suffered as the insulation on some of the wiring has frayed a bit. Input and output errors too have increased and don't get me started about those faulty peripherals!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...which is 51 years old .
A little out of date and throughput has suffered as the insulation on some of the wiring has frayed a bit .
Input and output errors too have increased and do n't get me started about those faulty peripherals !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...which is 51 years old.
A little out of date and throughput has suffered as the insulation on some of the wiring has frayed a bit.
Input and output errors too have increased and don't get me started about those faulty peripherals!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127521</id>
	<title>My Oldest Piece of Equipment</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1243539780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?</p></div><p>I have an Atari 400 or 800 (I can't remember which one but it looks just like the 800 picture on Wikipedia but my buttons are different) from about 1979 in my parent's house in my old closet.  And the only cartridge I had for it was something called "Left Hand BASIC" or maybe it was just "Left BASIC" which--unless I'm mistaken--was <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari\_BASIC" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Atari's BASIC</a> [wikipedia.org].  Considering I was born in the early 80s, I bought it for $5 at a garage sale in 1996 and did a few procedures of Michael Crichton's Electronic Life (I used to be a big fan) on it and used a black and white TV as the monitor (I remember connecting it to the UHF posts on the back of the TV?).  I did some of my first home computing on that thing.  The really sad thing was that the large disc reader that came with it through a serial port didn't work so I had to punch everything in by hand over many hours to get back to where I was.  Last time I was home, it still worked!  <br> <br>

If you're talking about things I purchased new and underwent serious use, I have a Dell Pentium III Optiplex from 2000 that still works great as a router to my network.  It's hard drive (a deathstar no less) has been replaced once but aside from that, the huge PCI expansion bay make it great for that particular need.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The question I have , is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there ? I have an Atari 400 or 800 ( I ca n't remember which one but it looks just like the 800 picture on Wikipedia but my buttons are different ) from about 1979 in my parent 's house in my old closet .
And the only cartridge I had for it was something called " Left Hand BASIC " or maybe it was just " Left BASIC " which--unless I 'm mistaken--was Atari 's BASIC [ wikipedia.org ] .
Considering I was born in the early 80s , I bought it for $ 5 at a garage sale in 1996 and did a few procedures of Michael Crichton 's Electronic Life ( I used to be a big fan ) on it and used a black and white TV as the monitor ( I remember connecting it to the UHF posts on the back of the TV ? ) .
I did some of my first home computing on that thing .
The really sad thing was that the large disc reader that came with it through a serial port did n't work so I had to punch everything in by hand over many hours to get back to where I was .
Last time I was home , it still worked !
If you 're talking about things I purchased new and underwent serious use , I have a Dell Pentium III Optiplex from 2000 that still works great as a router to my network .
It 's hard drive ( a deathstar no less ) has been replaced once but aside from that , the huge PCI expansion bay make it great for that particular need .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The question I have, is what is the oldest working piece of equipment fellow Slashdotters have out there?I have an Atari 400 or 800 (I can't remember which one but it looks just like the 800 picture on Wikipedia but my buttons are different) from about 1979 in my parent's house in my old closet.
And the only cartridge I had for it was something called "Left Hand BASIC" or maybe it was just "Left BASIC" which--unless I'm mistaken--was Atari's BASIC [wikipedia.org].
Considering I was born in the early 80s, I bought it for $5 at a garage sale in 1996 and did a few procedures of Michael Crichton's Electronic Life (I used to be a big fan) on it and used a black and white TV as the monitor (I remember connecting it to the UHF posts on the back of the TV?).
I did some of my first home computing on that thing.
The really sad thing was that the large disc reader that came with it through a serial port didn't work so I had to punch everything in by hand over many hours to get back to where I was.
Last time I was home, it still worked!
If you're talking about things I purchased new and underwent serious use, I have a Dell Pentium III Optiplex from 2000 that still works great as a router to my network.
It's hard drive (a deathstar no less) has been replaced once but aside from that, the huge PCI expansion bay make it great for that particular need.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128121</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>WMD\_88</author>
	<datestamp>1243541460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>IBM copyrighted the design in 1984, but no keyboards are actually that old.  Also on the label, you will find a date of manufacture.  IBM was including the 1984 copyright on new keyboards well into the 90s.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IBM copyrighted the design in 1984 , but no keyboards are actually that old .
Also on the label , you will find a date of manufacture .
IBM was including the 1984 copyright on new keyboards well into the 90s .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IBM copyrighted the design in 1984, but no keyboards are actually that old.
Also on the label, you will find a date of manufacture.
IBM was including the 1984 copyright on new keyboards well into the 90s.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128373</id>
	<title>Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard"</title>
	<author>Abreu</author>
	<datestamp>1243542060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid, which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old. The driod can still connect.</p></div><p>But all those years later, the poor droid can no longer fly...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid , which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old .
The driod can still connect.But all those years later , the poor droid can no longer fly.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A young Obi Wan Kenobi flies with an Astrodroid, which is then used by his apprentice when he has grown old.
The driod can still connect.But all those years later, the poor droid can no longer fly...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127517</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28140351</id>
	<title>Re:Just Throw It on the Meme Heap</title>
	<author>lucif3r</author>
	<datestamp>1243619760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks, but I throw my garbage out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks , but I throw my garbage out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks, but I throw my garbage out.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127483</id>
	<title>Back then</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243539660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most electronic equipment was built to last, hence this guy got his modem to work.<br><br>I doubt anyone will be able to run a GTX 280 in 45 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most electronic equipment was built to last , hence this guy got his modem to work.I doubt anyone will be able to run a GTX 280 in 45 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most electronic equipment was built to last, hence this guy got his modem to work.I doubt anyone will be able to run a GTX 280 in 45 years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131071</id>
	<title>Oldest Working Equipment I Have - 1953</title>
	<author>Rubinstien</author>
	<datestamp>1243508880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a 1953 "Sargeant" television set that still works.  The tubes are a bit gassy, the picture a bit bluish-white.  I quit turning it on about 8 years ago, because the conductive coating on the outside of the picture tube is coming loose, and parts of it pop off when the tube powers up.  You used to be able to buy an aerosol spray to recoat the tube (made by CRC, IIRC), but I can't find it available anymore.  I so want to hook it up to a digital converter box though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 1953 " Sargeant " television set that still works .
The tubes are a bit gassy , the picture a bit bluish-white .
I quit turning it on about 8 years ago , because the conductive coating on the outside of the picture tube is coming loose , and parts of it pop off when the tube powers up .
You used to be able to buy an aerosol spray to recoat the tube ( made by CRC , IIRC ) , but I ca n't find it available anymore .
I so want to hook it up to a digital converter box though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 1953 "Sargeant" television set that still works.
The tubes are a bit gassy, the picture a bit bluish-white.
I quit turning it on about 8 years ago, because the conductive coating on the outside of the picture tube is coming loose, and parts of it pop off when the tube powers up.
You used to be able to buy an aerosol spray to recoat the tube (made by CRC, IIRC), but I can't find it available anymore.
I so want to hook it up to a digital converter box though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128009</id>
	<title>Re:"Would you like to play a game?"</title>
	<author>aristotle-dude</author>
	<datestamp>1243541160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems. - Ferris Bueller</p></div><p>I remember accidentally breaking into a military computer when I was a teenager with my 1200 Baud modem. I dialed a number from a list that I got from another BBS, starred at the black screen for a bit and then decided to enter in five stars and then Enter. I was presented with a menu that I immediately recognized as being from the local armed forces base. Suffice to say, I chickened out and disconnected right away.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems .
- Ferris BuellerI remember accidentally breaking into a military computer when I was a teenager with my 1200 Baud modem .
I dialed a number from a list that I got from another BBS , starred at the black screen for a bit and then decided to enter in five stars and then Enter .
I was presented with a menu that I immediately recognized as being from the local armed forces base .
Suffice to say , I chickened out and disconnected right away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe there are some ancient government computer backdoors out there that work with ancient modems.
- Ferris BuellerI remember accidentally breaking into a military computer when I was a teenager with my 1200 Baud modem.
I dialed a number from a list that I got from another BBS, starred at the black screen for a bit and then decided to enter in five stars and then Enter.
I was presented with a menu that I immediately recognized as being from the local armed forces base.
Suffice to say, I chickened out and disconnected right away.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127599</id>
	<title>2 Button Mouse</title>
	<author>Bobfrankly1</author>
	<datestamp>1243539960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure if it's one of the first two button mice, but it was purchased roughly a year before windows 3.1 came out. Good old Logitech 9pin serial. Still works, but almost hurts to use it compared to the logitech g5. Thing must be about 20 years old now...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure if it 's one of the first two button mice , but it was purchased roughly a year before windows 3.1 came out .
Good old Logitech 9pin serial .
Still works , but almost hurts to use it compared to the logitech g5 .
Thing must be about 20 years old now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure if it's one of the first two button mice, but it was purchased roughly a year before windows 3.1 came out.
Good old Logitech 9pin serial.
Still works, but almost hurts to use it compared to the logitech g5.
Thing must be about 20 years old now...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130227</id>
	<title>Survivorship Bias..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243505280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>..don't forget about it. Plenty of crap has been made by humanity since Grog first hacked a sharp point onto the end of a stick. Only the well-built stuff is treasured and squirelled away.</p><p>Anecdote; How many of you have / know someone who has an antique firearm? "Still fires!", "Feel that action, smooth as ever", "Look at the expert tooling on the barrel" are things you hear, not "Was garbage when new, jammed every third shot, came rusted from factory, looked like something to scrape out chamber pots".</p><p>I'll bet dollars to doughnuts there was a Soviet equivalent of this acoustic modem that was junk, and has been completely forgotten.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>..do n't forget about it .
Plenty of crap has been made by humanity since Grog first hacked a sharp point onto the end of a stick .
Only the well-built stuff is treasured and squirelled away.Anecdote ; How many of you have / know someone who has an antique firearm ?
" Still fires !
" , " Feel that action , smooth as ever " , " Look at the expert tooling on the barrel " are things you hear , not " Was garbage when new , jammed every third shot , came rusted from factory , looked like something to scrape out chamber pots " .I 'll bet dollars to doughnuts there was a Soviet equivalent of this acoustic modem that was junk , and has been completely forgotten .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>..don't forget about it.
Plenty of crap has been made by humanity since Grog first hacked a sharp point onto the end of a stick.
Only the well-built stuff is treasured and squirelled away.Anecdote; How many of you have / know someone who has an antique firearm?
"Still fires!
", "Feel that action, smooth as ever", "Look at the expert tooling on the barrel" are things you hear, not "Was garbage when new, jammed every third shot, came rusted from factory, looked like something to scrape out chamber pots".I'll bet dollars to doughnuts there was a Soviet equivalent of this acoustic modem that was junk, and has been completely forgotten.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129467</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>WillyWanker</author>
	<datestamp>1243502340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Still using my IBM PS/2 keyboard from 1989. I simply cannot fathom using anything else. Windows key be damned!</p><p>I also have an IBM PC/AT circa 1986 around here somewhere, complete with monitor. It's been a long time since I fired it up tho.</p><p>As for non-computer equipment I have a Singer sewing machine from 1964 and an Electrolux vacuum cleaner, also from the 60s, both of which still work flawlessly. Come to think of it I think I still have a 60s clothes iron around here someplace (like I iron clothes BWAHAHAHAHAH!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Still using my IBM PS/2 keyboard from 1989 .
I simply can not fathom using anything else .
Windows key be damned ! I also have an IBM PC/AT circa 1986 around here somewhere , complete with monitor .
It 's been a long time since I fired it up tho.As for non-computer equipment I have a Singer sewing machine from 1964 and an Electrolux vacuum cleaner , also from the 60s , both of which still work flawlessly .
Come to think of it I think I still have a 60s clothes iron around here someplace ( like I iron clothes BWAHAHAHAHAH !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still using my IBM PS/2 keyboard from 1989.
I simply cannot fathom using anything else.
Windows key be damned!I also have an IBM PC/AT circa 1986 around here somewhere, complete with monitor.
It's been a long time since I fired it up tho.As for non-computer equipment I have a Singer sewing machine from 1964 and an Electrolux vacuum cleaner, also from the 60s, both of which still work flawlessly.
Come to think of it I think I still have a 60s clothes iron around here someplace (like I iron clothes BWAHAHAHAHAH!
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28141415</id>
	<title>Oldest technology still in use?</title>
	<author>AndyCater</author>
	<datestamp>1243624560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Former work: German Navy Enigma machine. [At home] WW II AR88 receiver / contemporary Morse key / 1927 BBC radio. Working laptop - 386SX/16 from ??1992??</htmltext>
<tokenext>Former work : German Navy Enigma machine .
[ At home ] WW II AR88 receiver / contemporary Morse key / 1927 BBC radio .
Working laptop - 386SX/16 from ? ? 1992 ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Former work: German Navy Enigma machine.
[At home] WW II AR88 receiver / contemporary Morse key / 1927 BBC radio.
Working laptop - 386SX/16 from ??1992?
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28139629</id>
	<title>1975 was a good year</title>
	<author>uiuyhn8i8</author>
	<datestamp>1243615860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Still got an Atari Pong game that our family got for christmas 1975, and a ti57 and a ti59 calculator from around 1977. And I had a pdp-11/23 cirka 1979 in my dorm room a decade ago. And I generally don't even like old stuff. Go figure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Still got an Atari Pong game that our family got for christmas 1975 , and a ti57 and a ti59 calculator from around 1977 .
And I had a pdp-11/23 cirka 1979 in my dorm room a decade ago .
And I generally do n't even like old stuff .
Go figure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Still got an Atari Pong game that our family got for christmas 1975, and a ti57 and a ti59 calculator from around 1977.
And I had a pdp-11/23 cirka 1979 in my dorm room a decade ago.
And I generally don't even like old stuff.
Go figure.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128777</id>
	<title>Oldest full machine in regular use</title>
	<author>Chazman</author>
	<datestamp>1243543200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a DNS server that's running on a Pentium-83 overdrive CPU in a 486/VLB mobo, with 32MB of RAM on 30-pin SIMMs.  It connects to the network with a WD8013 10Mb Ethernet card, and 10base-2 cable.  Disk?  WD Caviar 340MB, baby.  It's been serving DNS 24/7/365 for I can't even remember how many years straight (total downtime on the order of a day or two in several years), and still is doing so right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a DNS server that 's running on a Pentium-83 overdrive CPU in a 486/VLB mobo , with 32MB of RAM on 30-pin SIMMs .
It connects to the network with a WD8013 10Mb Ethernet card , and 10base-2 cable .
Disk ? WD Caviar 340MB , baby .
It 's been serving DNS 24/7/365 for I ca n't even remember how many years straight ( total downtime on the order of a day or two in several years ) , and still is doing so right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a DNS server that's running on a Pentium-83 overdrive CPU in a 486/VLB mobo, with 32MB of RAM on 30-pin SIMMs.
It connects to the network with a WD8013 10Mb Ethernet card, and 10base-2 cable.
Disk?  WD Caviar 340MB, baby.
It's been serving DNS 24/7/365 for I can't even remember how many years straight (total downtime on the order of a day or two in several years), and still is doing so right now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133123</id>
	<title>Re:PLEASE! Establish an "R2D2 Standard"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243519260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>     Right now, no brainer, it's USB.  Previously, PS/2, serial, and parallel.  For the non-PC world you could thrown in SCSI (unfortunately they LOVED to constantly change the plug though.)</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Those scanners, printers, etc?  Probably parallel or SCSI.  Apple made non-standard Mac serial printers too, but there can't be a complaint about "legacy standards" when it's simply non-standard equipment.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Software's another issue, but really only for WInodws -- I've plugged in, RECENTLY , several SCSI *and* parallel port scanners, and had them work fine under Linux, and any printer it did support stays supported by future versions too.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; BUT, with that said there were plent of non-standards...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right now , no brainer , it 's USB .
Previously , PS/2 , serial , and parallel .
For the non-PC world you could thrown in SCSI ( unfortunately they LOVED to constantly change the plug though .
)           Those scanners , printers , etc ?
Probably parallel or SCSI .
Apple made non-standard Mac serial printers too , but there ca n't be a complaint about " legacy standards " when it 's simply non-standard equipment .
          Software 's another issue , but really only for WInodws -- I 've plugged in , RECENTLY , several SCSI * and * parallel port scanners , and had them work fine under Linux , and any printer it did support stays supported by future versions too .
          BUT , with that said there were plent of non-standards.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>     Right now, no brainer, it's USB.
Previously, PS/2, serial, and parallel.
For the non-PC world you could thrown in SCSI (unfortunately they LOVED to constantly change the plug though.
)
          Those scanners, printers, etc?
Probably parallel or SCSI.
Apple made non-standard Mac serial printers too, but there can't be a complaint about "legacy standards" when it's simply non-standard equipment.
          Software's another issue, but really only for WInodws -- I've plugged in, RECENTLY , several SCSI *and* parallel port scanners, and had them work fine under Linux, and any printer it did support stays supported by future versions too.
          BUT, with that said there were plent of non-standards...</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28139179</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243613640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a working Anita 1011 electronic desktop calculator, which was produced in 1969.  Actually, it was working two years ago but I lost the power lead when I moved house.  Whoops!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a working Anita 1011 electronic desktop calculator , which was produced in 1969 .
Actually , it was working two years ago but I lost the power lead when I moved house .
Whoops !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a working Anita 1011 electronic desktop calculator, which was produced in 1969.
Actually, it was working two years ago but I lost the power lead when I moved house.
Whoops!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137029</id>
	<title>50 year old speaker</title>
	<author>mrraven</author>
	<datestamp>1243602600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an Acoustic Research AR-1 speaker that is over 50 years old and working like a top as a subwoofer.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  One of the things I like about analog audio is the shear durability of the products compared to anything digital.  The golden age of audio was the 70s and 70s Sansui, Pioneer, and Marantz amps and receivers are VERY in demand, name ANY digital product that was better 30+ years ago?  I do like advancements in processor speed HD capacity etc, and filling up landfills with working 6 year old computers?  Not so much...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an Acoustic Research AR-1 speaker that is over 50 years old and working like a top as a subwoofer .
: ) One of the things I like about analog audio is the shear durability of the products compared to anything digital .
The golden age of audio was the 70s and 70s Sansui , Pioneer , and Marantz amps and receivers are VERY in demand , name ANY digital product that was better 30 + years ago ?
I do like advancements in processor speed HD capacity etc , and filling up landfills with working 6 year old computers ?
Not so much.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an Acoustic Research AR-1 speaker that is over 50 years old and working like a top as a subwoofer.
:)  One of the things I like about analog audio is the shear durability of the products compared to anything digital.
The golden age of audio was the 70s and 70s Sansui, Pioneer, and Marantz amps and receivers are VERY in demand, name ANY digital product that was better 30+ years ago?
I do like advancements in processor speed HD capacity etc, and filling up landfills with working 6 year old computers?
Not so much...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28128563</id>
	<title>Dragon 64 anyone?</title>
	<author>hoover</author>
	<datestamp>1243542600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oldest machine I have in working condition is a 64kb Dragon 64. Was a great little machine in its day, featuring multiuser / multitasking on a 6809E running OS/9 (yep, you could log in over a serial terminal<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-). Also featured a parallel floppy drive which put the C64's 1541 to shame.</p><p>Great times, niche machine, died along with the rest. Manual claims it's from 1983, so a bit more than 25 years, I'd say.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oldest machine I have in working condition is a 64kb Dragon 64 .
Was a great little machine in its day , featuring multiuser / multitasking on a 6809E running OS/9 ( yep , you could log in over a serial terminal ; - ) .
Also featured a parallel floppy drive which put the C64 's 1541 to shame.Great times , niche machine , died along with the rest .
Manual claims it 's from 1983 , so a bit more than 25 years , I 'd say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oldest machine I have in working condition is a 64kb Dragon 64.
Was a great little machine in its day, featuring multiuser / multitasking on a 6809E running OS/9 (yep, you could log in over a serial terminal ;-).
Also featured a parallel floppy drive which put the C64's 1541 to shame.Great times, niche machine, died along with the rest.
Manual claims it's from 1983, so a bit more than 25 years, I'd say.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28131801</id>
	<title>re: oldest piece of equipment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243512660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an original Star Wars Stand up arcade game from 1983; with the manuals and schematics. Still works!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an original Star Wars Stand up arcade game from 1983 ; with the manuals and schematics .
Still works !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an original Star Wars Stand up arcade game from 1983; with the manuals and schematics.
Still works!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28130655</id>
	<title>1972 Buick</title>
	<author>kooganani</author>
	<datestamp>1243507080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not sure if this counts, but I once fixed a Commodore 64 with a fuse from a 1972 Buick Electra.  The C64 has a big automotive-style fuse holder right there in the middle of the motherboard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure if this counts , but I once fixed a Commodore 64 with a fuse from a 1972 Buick Electra .
The C64 has a big automotive-style fuse holder right there in the middle of the motherboard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure if this counts, but I once fixed a Commodore 64 with a fuse from a 1972 Buick Electra.
The C64 has a big automotive-style fuse holder right there in the middle of the motherboard.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28135247</id>
	<title>I just threw it all out last month...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243536780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A bunch of SPARC gear, SPARCStation2, IPC, IPX, etc, that all worked fine but was so slow that it was no longer relevant or capable.</p><p>All from the early 1990s.</p><p>Then there's the ZIP/JAZ drives that still spin... the modems are still packed away too...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A bunch of SPARC gear , SPARCStation2 , IPC , IPX , etc , that all worked fine but was so slow that it was no longer relevant or capable.All from the early 1990s.Then there 's the ZIP/JAZ drives that still spin... the modems are still packed away too.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A bunch of SPARC gear, SPARCStation2, IPC, IPX, etc, that all worked fine but was so slow that it was no longer relevant or capable.All from the early 1990s.Then there's the ZIP/JAZ drives that still spin... the modems are still packed away too...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129057</id>
	<title>Re:Mine is my dick at 54 years!</title>
	<author>Sj0</author>
	<datestamp>1243544160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Saying something like that on the internet, expect to be V&amp;.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Saying something like that on the internet , expect to be V&amp; .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saying something like that on the internet, expect to be V&amp;.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127731</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28137997</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>himself</author>
	<datestamp>1243608180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My dad does international shipping and so needs to send messages to places other than the First World, and he uses a Telex machine regularly. Also, he has a PC for typing up faxes sometimes, but he prefers his bulky IBM Selectric typewriter for everyday use. My brother works for him and has his own Selectric, but he uses the PC a little more.</p><p>They are hoarding the ball-heads for the typewriter, since you have to swap them in when you want to change fonts. Sweet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My dad does international shipping and so needs to send messages to places other than the First World , and he uses a Telex machine regularly .
Also , he has a PC for typing up faxes sometimes , but he prefers his bulky IBM Selectric typewriter for everyday use .
My brother works for him and has his own Selectric , but he uses the PC a little more.They are hoarding the ball-heads for the typewriter , since you have to swap them in when you want to change fonts .
Sweet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dad does international shipping and so needs to send messages to places other than the First World, and he uses a Telex machine regularly.
Also, he has a PC for typing up faxes sometimes, but he prefers his bulky IBM Selectric typewriter for everyday use.
My brother works for him and has his own Selectric, but he uses the PC a little more.They are hoarding the ball-heads for the typewriter, since you have to swap them in when you want to change fonts.
Sweet!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127549</id>
	<title>Me</title>
	<author>Matheus</author>
	<datestamp>1243539840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Technically that would be me.  At some point in Elementary school I was able to successfully connect with a friend of mine's 1200 baud modem with my voice.  Can't say I was able to do much after that but it did say that the handshake was successful<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Beyond that, although my Amiga 1000 went to a garage sale back in high school I still have and occasionally use my 2000 which has the MIDI adapter I used with my 1000 from 85 so that would be roughly a 24 year old MIDI box that still gets used.  The keyboard I hook it up to is a couple years older than that and the TV at our cabin was bought with insurance money from me being sick as a baby which is just under 32 years old.</p><p>Define equipment?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically that would be me .
At some point in Elementary school I was able to successfully connect with a friend of mine 's 1200 baud modem with my voice .
Ca n't say I was able to do much after that but it did say that the handshake was successful : ) Beyond that , although my Amiga 1000 went to a garage sale back in high school I still have and occasionally use my 2000 which has the MIDI adapter I used with my 1000 from 85 so that would be roughly a 24 year old MIDI box that still gets used .
The keyboard I hook it up to is a couple years older than that and the TV at our cabin was bought with insurance money from me being sick as a baby which is just under 32 years old.Define equipment ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically that would be me.
At some point in Elementary school I was able to successfully connect with a friend of mine's 1200 baud modem with my voice.
Can't say I was able to do much after that but it did say that the handshake was successful :)Beyond that, although my Amiga 1000 went to a garage sale back in high school I still have and occasionally use my 2000 which has the MIDI adapter I used with my 1000 from 85 so that would be roughly a 24 year old MIDI box that still gets used.
The keyboard I hook it up to is a couple years older than that and the TV at our cabin was bought with insurance money from me being sick as a baby which is just under 32 years old.Define equipment?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127573</id>
	<title>Kaypro II</title>
	<author>xymog</author>
	<datestamp>1243539900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Had an old Kaypro II, circa 1983. Single-side floppies, 9" green monochrome screen, weighed a ton. Load the OS from a floppy, then load an app from a floppy. Great stuff for its time!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Had an old Kaypro II , circa 1983 .
Single-side floppies , 9 " green monochrome screen , weighed a ton .
Load the OS from a floppy , then load an app from a floppy .
Great stuff for its time !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Had an old Kaypro II, circa 1983.
Single-side floppies, 9" green monochrome screen, weighed a ton.
Load the OS from a floppy, then load an app from a floppy.
Great stuff for its time!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28132849</id>
	<title>Re:Primary Keyboard: 1991 IBM Model M</title>
	<author>lucifuge31337</author>
	<datestamp>1243517880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use?</p></div><p>I posted this earlier, but I have top jump in on this because I think I win.  Mid 1930's Western Electric butt set hooked up to an ATA to connect to out VoIP PBX at work.  It's my normal desk phone.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use ? I posted this earlier , but I have top jump in on this because I think I win .
Mid 1930 's Western Electric butt set hooked up to an ATA to connect to out VoIP PBX at work .
It 's my normal desk phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about oldest piece of equipment in regular use?I posted this earlier, but I have top jump in on this because I think I win.
Mid 1930's Western Electric butt set hooked up to an ATA to connect to out VoIP PBX at work.
It's my normal desk phone.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127635</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129375</id>
	<title>Re:Model M Keyboard</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243501980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the bright side, if there's ever a flood you can use the thing for a serf board.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the bright side , if there 's ever a flood you can use the thing for a serf board .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the bright side, if there's ever a flood you can use the thing for a serf board.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127433</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28133475</id>
	<title>How does it sync?</title>
	<author>schweini</author>
	<datestamp>1243521900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am assuming that it's a 'regular' modem answering the call on the other side - could somebidy explain to me how the two can handshake and sync, then? I always thought that the handshake/syncing part would at least require a bit of 'intelligence' from the modems involved?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am assuming that it 's a 'regular ' modem answering the call on the other side - could somebidy explain to me how the two can handshake and sync , then ?
I always thought that the handshake/syncing part would at least require a bit of 'intelligence ' from the modems involved ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am assuming that it's a 'regular' modem answering the call on the other side - could somebidy explain to me how the two can handshake and sync, then?
I always thought that the handshake/syncing part would at least require a bit of 'intelligence' from the modems involved?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129905</id>
	<title>Re:Oldest Working?</title>
	<author>rev\_g33k\_101</author>
	<datestamp>1243504080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80\_Color\_Computer#Color\_Computer\_2\_.281983.E2.80.931986.29" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Tandy Color Computer 2</a> [wikipedia.org] and the tape drive for it, so you could save the programs you coded.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Tandy Color Computer 2 [ wikipedia.org ] and the tape drive for it , so you could save the programs you coded .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Tandy Color Computer 2 [wikipedia.org] and the tape drive for it, so you could save the programs you coded.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28138535</id>
	<title>1986 NEC Prospeed 286</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243610460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>blazing along at a smoking 16MHz<br>10 Megabyte hard disk, 256 Megs of RAM<br>It still works. I considered gutting it and using tat case to make a portable gaming rig, but I can't quite bring myself to do it.<br>And somewhere around here, I have my original SoundBlaster 8-bit - I don't know if it works, because I can't find and ISA slot to test.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>blazing along at a smoking 16MHz10 Megabyte hard disk , 256 Megs of RAMIt still works .
I considered gutting it and using tat case to make a portable gaming rig , but I ca n't quite bring myself to do it.And somewhere around here , I have my original SoundBlaster 8-bit - I do n't know if it works , because I ca n't find and ISA slot to test .
: -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>blazing along at a smoking 16MHz10 Megabyte hard disk, 256 Megs of RAMIt still works.
I considered gutting it and using tat case to make a portable gaming rig, but I can't quite bring myself to do it.And somewhere around here, I have my original SoundBlaster 8-bit - I don't know if it works, because I can't find and ISA slot to test.
:-P</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28127623</id>
	<title>Re:My hammer.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243540020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>whoever was in charge of quality control at the various businesses back in the late eighteen hundreds seems to have done a good job--either that or there was just a bubble of really bad work ethic on either side of that part century. I have seen countless museums with period material--very few shortly thereafter or before. I can understand the before part--Civil War left a lot destroyed even where there weren't battles. The after part is a bit harder for me to catch</htmltext>
<tokenext>whoever was in charge of quality control at the various businesses back in the late eighteen hundreds seems to have done a good job--either that or there was just a bubble of really bad work ethic on either side of that part century .
I have seen countless museums with period material--very few shortly thereafter or before .
I can understand the before part--Civil War left a lot destroyed even where there were n't battles .
The after part is a bit harder for me to catch</tokentext>
<sentencetext>whoever was in charge of quality control at the various businesses back in the late eighteen hundreds seems to have done a good job--either that or there was just a bubble of really bad work ethic on either side of that part century.
I have seen countless museums with period material--very few shortly thereafter or before.
I can understand the before part--Civil War left a lot destroyed even where there weren't battles.
The after part is a bit harder for me to catch</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_1745203.28129573</id>
	<title>Gillette Trac II Razor Handle</title>
	<author>goldie89</author>
	<datestamp>1243502700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Used almost every day for the last 35 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Used almost every day for the last 35 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Used almost every day for the last 35 years.</sentencetext>
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