<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article09_05_28_0321251</id>
	<title>Asus Slaps Linux In the Face</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1243511820000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:vig@gatech.edu" rel="nofollow">vigmeister</a> writes <i>"From Techgeist, 'Linux just got a major slap in the face today from Asus. One of the highlights of Linux going mainstream was the wildly popular <a href="http://techgeist.net/2009/05/asus-slaps-linux-in-the-face/">Asus Eee PC preinstalled with a customized Linux distro</a> geared towards web applications. While I personally never got what the big deal was, I was still happy for all the Linux people out there waiting for this day, but it looks like the cause for celebration won't be lasting much longer.
Asus and Microsoft have teamed up and have made a site called 'It's Better With Windows.' The page touts how easy it is to get up and ready with Windows on an Asus Eee PC, while slyly stating that you won't have to deal with an 'unfamiliar environment' and 'major compatibility issues.' While it is silly to state such a thing since Asus built the Linux distribution specifically for the Eee PC, I give Microsoft two points for snarky comments.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>vigmeister writes " From Techgeist , 'Linux just got a major slap in the face today from Asus .
One of the highlights of Linux going mainstream was the wildly popular Asus Eee PC preinstalled with a customized Linux distro geared towards web applications .
While I personally never got what the big deal was , I was still happy for all the Linux people out there waiting for this day , but it looks like the cause for celebration wo n't be lasting much longer .
Asus and Microsoft have teamed up and have made a site called 'It 's Better With Windows .
' The page touts how easy it is to get up and ready with Windows on an Asus Eee PC , while slyly stating that you wo n't have to deal with an 'unfamiliar environment ' and 'major compatibility issues .
' While it is silly to state such a thing since Asus built the Linux distribution specifically for the Eee PC , I give Microsoft two points for snarky comments .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>vigmeister writes "From Techgeist, 'Linux just got a major slap in the face today from Asus.
One of the highlights of Linux going mainstream was the wildly popular Asus Eee PC preinstalled with a customized Linux distro geared towards web applications.
While I personally never got what the big deal was, I was still happy for all the Linux people out there waiting for this day, but it looks like the cause for celebration won't be lasting much longer.
Asus and Microsoft have teamed up and have made a site called 'It's Better With Windows.
' The page touts how easy it is to get up and ready with Windows on an Asus Eee PC, while slyly stating that you won't have to deal with an 'unfamiliar environment' and 'major compatibility issues.
' While it is silly to state such a thing since Asus built the Linux distribution specifically for the Eee PC, I give Microsoft two points for snarky comments.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122071</id>
	<title>They still don't get it!</title>
	<author>yoshi\_mon</author>
	<datestamp>1243517700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>These tech writers just don't seem to get it.  They are treating FOSS as if it is a corporation that has some master plan.  Granted there are parts of FOSS groups that have plans.  Canonical or RH have goals that they want to do but 'Linux' or the FOSS idea works on different overall principals than deals with hardware vendors.</p><p>Of course writing about all that nuance would require actual thought and work so...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>These tech writers just do n't seem to get it .
They are treating FOSS as if it is a corporation that has some master plan .
Granted there are parts of FOSS groups that have plans .
Canonical or RH have goals that they want to do but 'Linux ' or the FOSS idea works on different overall principals than deals with hardware vendors.Of course writing about all that nuance would require actual thought and work so.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These tech writers just don't seem to get it.
They are treating FOSS as if it is a corporation that has some master plan.
Granted there are parts of FOSS groups that have plans.
Canonical or RH have goals that they want to do but 'Linux' or the FOSS idea works on different overall principals than deals with hardware vendors.Of course writing about all that nuance would require actual thought and work so...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124071</id>
	<title>There's a problem here</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1243527360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We need a new mass-market/"newb friendly," distro, and we need to make sure that this one is NOT Debian based.</p><p>FreeBSD has the following technical advantages over anything Debian based that I've been able to see, and these could be recreated most easily with a non-Debian based Linux.  These might be under the hood things, but they would definitely filter up to make life easier for the end user.</p><p>-  Single point of daemon loading at bootup with<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/rc.conf.<br>-  Comparitive ease of kernel recompilation that is so much greater than Linux, and Debian in particular, that it isn't funny.  The config file is tiny, and completely documented.<br>-  Package management which doesn't subpackage, or have incomprehensibly stupid, bogus dependency declarations.  Said package management also uses the directory structure of the filesystem itself as a database, so it can be used on low-powered systems which would have difficulty running an SQL database engine.</p><p>These are simplifications which, IMHO, Ubuntu very badly needs to adopt.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We need a new mass-market/ " newb friendly , " distro , and we need to make sure that this one is NOT Debian based.FreeBSD has the following technical advantages over anything Debian based that I 've been able to see , and these could be recreated most easily with a non-Debian based Linux .
These might be under the hood things , but they would definitely filter up to make life easier for the end user.- Single point of daemon loading at bootup with /etc/rc.conf.- Comparitive ease of kernel recompilation that is so much greater than Linux , and Debian in particular , that it is n't funny .
The config file is tiny , and completely documented.- Package management which does n't subpackage , or have incomprehensibly stupid , bogus dependency declarations .
Said package management also uses the directory structure of the filesystem itself as a database , so it can be used on low-powered systems which would have difficulty running an SQL database engine.These are simplifications which , IMHO , Ubuntu very badly needs to adopt .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We need a new mass-market/"newb friendly," distro, and we need to make sure that this one is NOT Debian based.FreeBSD has the following technical advantages over anything Debian based that I've been able to see, and these could be recreated most easily with a non-Debian based Linux.
These might be under the hood things, but they would definitely filter up to make life easier for the end user.-  Single point of daemon loading at bootup with /etc/rc.conf.-  Comparitive ease of kernel recompilation that is so much greater than Linux, and Debian in particular, that it isn't funny.
The config file is tiny, and completely documented.-  Package management which doesn't subpackage, or have incomprehensibly stupid, bogus dependency declarations.
Said package management also uses the directory structure of the filesystem itself as a database, so it can be used on low-powered systems which would have difficulty running an SQL database engine.These are simplifications which, IMHO, Ubuntu very badly needs to adopt.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121875</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>Zashi</author>
	<datestamp>1243516500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An MS troll on slashdot with a karma bonus? Now I've seen everything.
<br> <br>
(And I mean no slights against parent, just<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.ers in general)</htmltext>
<tokenext>An MS troll on slashdot with a karma bonus ?
Now I 've seen everything .
( And I mean no slights against parent , just /.ers in general )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An MS troll on slashdot with a karma bonus?
Now I've seen everything.
(And I mean no slights against parent, just /.ers in general)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</id>
	<title>Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243515600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meh. I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
I 'll just install linux over the windows install as usual .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122729</id>
	<title>Re:worse than religion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243521120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>heathen!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>heathen !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>heathen!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122077</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28134839</id>
	<title>Re:There's a problem here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243533000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm LOL that you said 'newb friendly' and kernel recompilation in the same post.  Really, on what planet is your bullet list considered 'newb friendly'?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm LOL that you said 'newb friendly ' and kernel recompilation in the same post .
Really , on what planet is your bullet list considered 'newb friendly ' ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm LOL that you said 'newb friendly' and kernel recompilation in the same post.
Really, on what planet is your bullet list considered 'newb friendly'?
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124071</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28127135</id>
	<title>Anyone else notice the resolution inconsistencies?</title>
	<author>pwnies</author>
	<datestamp>1243538700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At 3:28 they show a screencapture of them doing day to day tasks in windows, but the resolution presented is at least 1280x720, definitely higher than the AsusEE pc's screen res. Apparently windows is so much better that it can alter hardware!</htmltext>
<tokenext>At 3 : 28 they show a screencapture of them doing day to day tasks in windows , but the resolution presented is at least 1280x720 , definitely higher than the AsusEE pc 's screen res .
Apparently windows is so much better that it can alter hardware !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At 3:28 they show a screencapture of them doing day to day tasks in windows, but the resolution presented is at least 1280x720, definitely higher than the AsusEE pc's screen res.
Apparently windows is so much better that it can alter hardware!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28132049</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243513800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This isn't the end of the world. Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows <i>and</i> Linux?</p> </div><p>I don't think anyone is denying that there is a market for both.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux. See?</p></div><p>I think what you meant to say is: those who want Windows on their netbook/laptop can safely go grab any random (non Apple) netbook/laptop because you're more likely to get struck by lighting than you are to by chance find one with Linux installed; whereas those who want Linux can choose from probably less than a dozen low end netbook/laptop models available in total from all vendors combined... or if you choose from outside these merger dozen, you have to pay for Windows, like it or not.</p><p>The problem is that although there <i>is</i> a market for <i>both</i>, you have to use a magic diving rod to find more than one of them available.  I want to see more netbooks/laptops available pre-installed with Linux, but I also want netbooks/laptops available with no OS installed at all.  I want a choice, a real live competitive market.  Why can't I buy said Eee PC with Windows, with Linux, or with no OS at all?</p><p>Of course we all know why: Microsoft makes the case that vendors can't sell netbooks/laptops with no OS (or with even another OS) because clearly <i>everyone</i> who bought it would just installed pirated Windows on it.  Now <i>some</i> might do this, but it's not my problem, not a reason to prevent consumers from having a real choice.</p><p>It's been a while, but I remember when online retailers (under pressure from Microsoft) wouldn't let you buy certain components (like a CPU) without also buying an OEM Windows license because if you didn't buy them together, clearly you were going to use an illegal copy of Windows.  I'm sure that seems silly to everyone now, but Microsoft is still doing the same sort of the thing with netbook/laptop vendors.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Ultimately this is business, and it ain't pretty.</p></div><p>I don't see a lot of business going on, I see a monopoly squeezing any vendors that dare to offer alternatives.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't the end of the world .
Ca n't we all realise that there 's a market for both Windows and Linux ?
I do n't think anyone is denying that there is a market for both.Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it , those who do n't can buy Linux .
See ? I think what you meant to say is : those who want Windows on their netbook/laptop can safely go grab any random ( non Apple ) netbook/laptop because you 're more likely to get struck by lighting than you are to by chance find one with Linux installed ; whereas those who want Linux can choose from probably less than a dozen low end netbook/laptop models available in total from all vendors combined... or if you choose from outside these merger dozen , you have to pay for Windows , like it or not.The problem is that although there is a market for both , you have to use a magic diving rod to find more than one of them available .
I want to see more netbooks/laptops available pre-installed with Linux , but I also want netbooks/laptops available with no OS installed at all .
I want a choice , a real live competitive market .
Why ca n't I buy said Eee PC with Windows , with Linux , or with no OS at all ? Of course we all know why : Microsoft makes the case that vendors ca n't sell netbooks/laptops with no OS ( or with even another OS ) because clearly everyone who bought it would just installed pirated Windows on it .
Now some might do this , but it 's not my problem , not a reason to prevent consumers from having a real choice.It 's been a while , but I remember when online retailers ( under pressure from Microsoft ) would n't let you buy certain components ( like a CPU ) without also buying an OEM Windows license because if you did n't buy them together , clearly you were going to use an illegal copy of Windows .
I 'm sure that seems silly to everyone now , but Microsoft is still doing the same sort of the thing with netbook/laptop vendors.Ultimately this is business , and it ai n't pretty.I do n't see a lot of business going on , I see a monopoly squeezing any vendors that dare to offer alternatives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't the end of the world.
Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows and Linux?
I don't think anyone is denying that there is a market for both.Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux.
See?I think what you meant to say is: those who want Windows on their netbook/laptop can safely go grab any random (non Apple) netbook/laptop because you're more likely to get struck by lighting than you are to by chance find one with Linux installed; whereas those who want Linux can choose from probably less than a dozen low end netbook/laptop models available in total from all vendors combined... or if you choose from outside these merger dozen, you have to pay for Windows, like it or not.The problem is that although there is a market for both, you have to use a magic diving rod to find more than one of them available.
I want to see more netbooks/laptops available pre-installed with Linux, but I also want netbooks/laptops available with no OS installed at all.
I want a choice, a real live competitive market.
Why can't I buy said Eee PC with Windows, with Linux, or with no OS at all?Of course we all know why: Microsoft makes the case that vendors can't sell netbooks/laptops with no OS (or with even another OS) because clearly everyone who bought it would just installed pirated Windows on it.
Now some might do this, but it's not my problem, not a reason to prevent consumers from having a real choice.It's been a while, but I remember when online retailers (under pressure from Microsoft) wouldn't let you buy certain components (like a CPU) without also buying an OEM Windows license because if you didn't buy them together, clearly you were going to use an illegal copy of Windows.
I'm sure that seems silly to everyone now, but Microsoft is still doing the same sort of the thing with netbook/laptop vendors.Ultimately this is business, and it ain't pretty.I don't see a lot of business going on, I see a monopoly squeezing any vendors that dare to offer alternatives.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124417</id>
	<title>An unfamiliar environment</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've used Windows since version 3.1x, and when I transitioned from XP to Vista, one of my biggest gripes was the "unfamiliar environment". Everything was moved around or changed completely. The new user friendly stuff actually made things even harder to use (control panel needs a search engine now?!). The same goes for Office 2007. The tabbed toolbar that allegedly reorganized everything just made finding "left justify" a scavenger hunt.  All of new the UI effects made things even more "unfamiliar" and harder to use because you were getting distracted by . Back in 2002, I tried out Mandrake Linux for the first time. Linux (and KDE) really was something I could pick up with zero experience using it and feel like I've been using it all along. The buttons and icons were all where I expected them to be from using Windows all along. Consistency is a good thing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've used Windows since version 3.1x , and when I transitioned from XP to Vista , one of my biggest gripes was the " unfamiliar environment " .
Everything was moved around or changed completely .
The new user friendly stuff actually made things even harder to use ( control panel needs a search engine now ? ! ) .
The same goes for Office 2007 .
The tabbed toolbar that allegedly reorganized everything just made finding " left justify " a scavenger hunt .
All of new the UI effects made things even more " unfamiliar " and harder to use because you were getting distracted by .
Back in 2002 , I tried out Mandrake Linux for the first time .
Linux ( and KDE ) really was something I could pick up with zero experience using it and feel like I 've been using it all along .
The buttons and icons were all where I expected them to be from using Windows all along .
Consistency is a good thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've used Windows since version 3.1x, and when I transitioned from XP to Vista, one of my biggest gripes was the "unfamiliar environment".
Everything was moved around or changed completely.
The new user friendly stuff actually made things even harder to use (control panel needs a search engine now?!).
The same goes for Office 2007.
The tabbed toolbar that allegedly reorganized everything just made finding "left justify" a scavenger hunt.
All of new the UI effects made things even more "unfamiliar" and harder to use because you were getting distracted by .
Back in 2002, I tried out Mandrake Linux for the first time.
Linux (and KDE) really was something I could pick up with zero experience using it and feel like I've been using it all along.
The buttons and icons were all where I expected them to be from using Windows all along.
Consistency is a good thing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122287</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Dunkirk</author>
	<datestamp>1243518960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got an Eee that I ordered with Linux. Their version came off in about an hour. I tried Easy Peasy for a few hours till I found Ubuntu Netbook Remix. (I've been a Gentoo fan for years, so I haven't followed that really closely.) Everything about UNR is fantastic except for one thing: browsers crash on it very frequently. And by "very frequently," I mean every time I use it. Unfortunately, running a browser is the single biggest use case for a netbook. I've read the forums; I've tried the suggestions; nothing works for me. I can't even get gdb to give me any useful info. At this point, I'm hoping that a big update comes out that magically fixes it. Until then, I keep looking for something else to try. Maybe Moblin? Maybe Win7? (Yeah, yeah, I know, but I have 9 computers at home. I just want the thing to WORK.) I'd put Gentoo on it, but I don't want to thrash the SSD, and I can't figure out how to get a cross-compiler going on my workstation. (Well, that, and I know I'd spend a MONTH tweaking everything to get it to the same level of functionality -- laptop-wise -- that UNR has out of the box.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got an Eee that I ordered with Linux .
Their version came off in about an hour .
I tried Easy Peasy for a few hours till I found Ubuntu Netbook Remix .
( I 've been a Gentoo fan for years , so I have n't followed that really closely .
) Everything about UNR is fantastic except for one thing : browsers crash on it very frequently .
And by " very frequently , " I mean every time I use it .
Unfortunately , running a browser is the single biggest use case for a netbook .
I 've read the forums ; I 've tried the suggestions ; nothing works for me .
I ca n't even get gdb to give me any useful info .
At this point , I 'm hoping that a big update comes out that magically fixes it .
Until then , I keep looking for something else to try .
Maybe Moblin ?
Maybe Win7 ?
( Yeah , yeah , I know , but I have 9 computers at home .
I just want the thing to WORK .
) I 'd put Gentoo on it , but I do n't want to thrash the SSD , and I ca n't figure out how to get a cross-compiler going on my workstation .
( Well , that , and I know I 'd spend a MONTH tweaking everything to get it to the same level of functionality -- laptop-wise -- that UNR has out of the box .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got an Eee that I ordered with Linux.
Their version came off in about an hour.
I tried Easy Peasy for a few hours till I found Ubuntu Netbook Remix.
(I've been a Gentoo fan for years, so I haven't followed that really closely.
) Everything about UNR is fantastic except for one thing: browsers crash on it very frequently.
And by "very frequently," I mean every time I use it.
Unfortunately, running a browser is the single biggest use case for a netbook.
I've read the forums; I've tried the suggestions; nothing works for me.
I can't even get gdb to give me any useful info.
At this point, I'm hoping that a big update comes out that magically fixes it.
Until then, I keep looking for something else to try.
Maybe Moblin?
Maybe Win7?
(Yeah, yeah, I know, but I have 9 computers at home.
I just want the thing to WORK.
) I'd put Gentoo on it, but I don't want to thrash the SSD, and I can't figure out how to get a cross-compiler going on my workstation.
(Well, that, and I know I'd spend a MONTH tweaking everything to get it to the same level of functionality -- laptop-wise -- that UNR has out of the box.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122389</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Linux fans,</title>
	<author>AHuxley</author>
	<datestamp>1243519440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That percentage of the slashdot readers that would fit your "whiny" comment is rather low.  Try poindexter ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>That percentage of the slashdot readers that would fit your " whiny " comment is rather low .
Try poindexter ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That percentage of the slashdot readers that would fit your "whiny" comment is rather low.
Try poindexter ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</id>
	<title>US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>ilovegeorgebush</author>
	<datestamp>1243516200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>This isn't the end of the world. Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows <i>and</i> Linux? <br> <br>

Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux. See?<br> <br>

Ultimately this is business, and it ain't pretty.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't the end of the world .
Ca n't we all realise that there 's a market for both Windows and Linux ?
Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it , those who do n't can buy Linux .
See ? Ultimately this is business , and it ai n't pretty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't the end of the world.
Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows and Linux?
Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux.
See? 

Ultimately this is business, and it ain't pretty.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123491</id>
	<title>Ha ha</title>
	<author>smoker2</author>
	<datestamp>1243524600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.<br> <br>Mahatma Gandhi</htmltext>
<tokenext>First they ignore you , then they laugh at you , then they fight you , then you win .
Mahatma Gandhi</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Mahatma Gandhi</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121969</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>TheThiefMaster</author>
	<datestamp>1243517100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got the Windows 7 Beta on my (originally Linux) eee 901. I got it second hand from someone who'd wiped the stock linux for a (dodgy) XP install, so I've never seen the original linux distro. From what I've heard, I don't want too.</p><p>It's a tough call between putting Ubuntu or Windows 7 on it once the 7 beta expires though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got the Windows 7 Beta on my ( originally Linux ) eee 901 .
I got it second hand from someone who 'd wiped the stock linux for a ( dodgy ) XP install , so I 've never seen the original linux distro .
From what I 've heard , I do n't want too.It 's a tough call between putting Ubuntu or Windows 7 on it once the 7 beta expires though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got the Windows 7 Beta on my (originally Linux) eee 901.
I got it second hand from someone who'd wiped the stock linux for a (dodgy) XP install, so I've never seen the original linux distro.
From what I've heard, I don't want too.It's a tough call between putting Ubuntu or Windows 7 on it once the 7 beta expires though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122409</id>
	<title>Look In The Mirror</title>
	<author>reallocate</author>
	<datestamp>1243519560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Asus and Torvalds had put up a site to help people put Linux on Windows machines, would it be as Evil?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Asus and Torvalds had put up a site to help people put Linux on Windows machines , would it be as Evil ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Asus and Torvalds had put up a site to help people put Linux on Windows machines, would it be as Evil?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121955</id>
	<title>Asus screwed up</title>
	<author>wally0623</author>
	<datestamp>1243516980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was introduced to the eeePc when a friend bought one.  It came with their version of Linux installed and he called me for help.  I have been almost exclusively Linux since the early on and I was literally unable to help him. We were on the phone and with the graphical shell they put on the Asus, he couldn't find anything.  He got frustrated and installed Windows.  He ran for a short time before he screwed up Windows.  At that point, he brought his Asus over and I installed eeebuntu.  It has been a love affair ever since.  I even offered to make his machine dual boot and was turned down.  Now I have my own Asus running eeebuntu.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was introduced to the eeePc when a friend bought one .
It came with their version of Linux installed and he called me for help .
I have been almost exclusively Linux since the early on and I was literally unable to help him .
We were on the phone and with the graphical shell they put on the Asus , he could n't find anything .
He got frustrated and installed Windows .
He ran for a short time before he screwed up Windows .
At that point , he brought his Asus over and I installed eeebuntu .
It has been a love affair ever since .
I even offered to make his machine dual boot and was turned down .
Now I have my own Asus running eeebuntu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was introduced to the eeePc when a friend bought one.
It came with their version of Linux installed and he called me for help.
I have been almost exclusively Linux since the early on and I was literally unable to help him.
We were on the phone and with the graphical shell they put on the Asus, he couldn't find anything.
He got frustrated and installed Windows.
He ran for a short time before he screwed up Windows.
At that point, he brought his Asus over and I installed eeebuntu.
It has been a love affair ever since.
I even offered to make his machine dual boot and was turned down.
Now I have my own Asus running eeebuntu.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121915</id>
	<title>Re:There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>Andr T.</author>
	<datestamp>1243516740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So what is Linux success? Is it dominating Windows?</p></div><p>See <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1" title="launchpad.net">Ubuntu bug #1</a> [launchpad.net]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So what is Linux success ?
Is it dominating Windows ? See Ubuntu bug # 1 [ launchpad.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what is Linux success?
Is it dominating Windows?See Ubuntu bug #1 [launchpad.net]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121755</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28128091</id>
	<title>You gotta admit, MS is better</title>
	<author>amir4000</author>
	<datestamp>1243541400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, face it kids, Windows is a BETTER product than Linux. Especially, for entry level Netbook users.

The interface is smoother.
Everything is integrated better.
There's no building and compiling apps.
Driver installation is a breeze.
There are thousands and thousands more applications.

Aside from price, there's absolutely no reason to use Linux, and with Microsoft lowering the Netbook OS prices to 15 bux, what reason would you have to use Linux on Eee?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , face it kids , Windows is a BETTER product than Linux .
Especially , for entry level Netbook users .
The interface is smoother .
Everything is integrated better .
There 's no building and compiling apps .
Driver installation is a breeze .
There are thousands and thousands more applications .
Aside from price , there 's absolutely no reason to use Linux , and with Microsoft lowering the Netbook OS prices to 15 bux , what reason would you have to use Linux on Eee ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, face it kids, Windows is a BETTER product than Linux.
Especially, for entry level Netbook users.
The interface is smoother.
Everything is integrated better.
There's no building and compiling apps.
Driver installation is a breeze.
There are thousands and thousands more applications.
Aside from price, there's absolutely no reason to use Linux, and with Microsoft lowering the Netbook OS prices to 15 bux, what reason would you have to use Linux on Eee?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122043</id>
	<title>Well......</title>
	<author>Random2</author>
	<datestamp>1243517520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just make sure this isn't a ploy by Micro$oft to push the Linux fans away from a company that supports them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just make sure this is n't a ploy by Micro $ oft to push the Linux fans away from a company that supports them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just make sure this isn't a ploy by Micro$oft to push the Linux fans away from a company that supports them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125521</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243533360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not really a tough call at all, at least to most...<br>Ubuntu by a longshot unless you like to toy around with a new Windows look instead of using your laptop<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)<br>That being said, if you want Windows on your eee, use XP until Windows 7 is released... relying upon the philanthropic actions of a corporation for your desktop when they have a history of nefarious activity is a little foolhardy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not really a tough call at all , at least to most...Ubuntu by a longshot unless you like to toy around with a new Windows look instead of using your laptop : ) That being said , if you want Windows on your eee , use XP until Windows 7 is released... relying upon the philanthropic actions of a corporation for your desktop when they have a history of nefarious activity is a little foolhardy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not really a tough call at all, at least to most...Ubuntu by a longshot unless you like to toy around with a new Windows look instead of using your laptop :)That being said, if you want Windows on your eee, use XP until Windows 7 is released... relying upon the philanthropic actions of a corporation for your desktop when they have a history of nefarious activity is a little foolhardy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121969</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124993</id>
	<title>Did anyone else at first glance...</title>
	<author>mrscorpio81</author>
	<datestamp>1243531140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...read this as "Anus slaps Linux in the face"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...read this as " Anus slaps Linux in the face " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...read this as "Anus slaps Linux in the face"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28179033</id>
	<title>Re:That's a damn shame</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243935480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, was considering an ASUS motherboard for my server but I guess I'm going with Gigabyte as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , was considering an ASUS motherboard for my server but I guess I 'm going with Gigabyte as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, was considering an ASUS motherboard for my server but I guess I'm going with Gigabyte as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121727</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125193</id>
	<title>Re:Calm down, the campaing is a fake.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243531980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why does everyone keep saying it is fake?</p><p>http://www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does everyone keep saying it is fake ? http : //www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does everyone keep saying it is fake?http://www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122763</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122009</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243517220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh fuck off.</p><p>You could have a point 2 years ago, but now that linux netbooks disappeared from the market, nobody can "buy linux".</p><p>And don't point me to companies like system76 either, because they only operate in the US.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh fuck off.You could have a point 2 years ago , but now that linux netbooks disappeared from the market , nobody can " buy linux " .And do n't point me to companies like system76 either , because they only operate in the US .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh fuck off.You could have a point 2 years ago, but now that linux netbooks disappeared from the market, nobody can "buy linux".And don't point me to companies like system76 either, because they only operate in the US.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123149</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243523040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux. See?</p></div><p>No, I really don't.  If one of the largest mainstream Linux-selling companies backs an ad campaign for not using anything other then Windows, it's quite likely stuff other then Windows won't be an option to be purchased for long.</p><p>Luckily Dell still sells netbooks with Linux support, but this is a blow to those who want to buy Linux.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it , those who do n't can buy Linux .
See ? No , I really do n't .
If one of the largest mainstream Linux-selling companies backs an ad campaign for not using anything other then Windows , it 's quite likely stuff other then Windows wo n't be an option to be purchased for long.Luckily Dell still sells netbooks with Linux support , but this is a blow to those who want to buy Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux.
See?No, I really don't.
If one of the largest mainstream Linux-selling companies backs an ad campaign for not using anything other then Windows, it's quite likely stuff other then Windows won't be an option to be purchased for long.Luckily Dell still sells netbooks with Linux support, but this is a blow to those who want to buy Linux.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28127085</id>
	<title>it's better with windows</title>
	<author>rs232</author>
	<datestamp>1243538580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No mention of anyone walking off with all your financial information, merely by clicking on an URL or opening an email attachment. Oh, wait, at <a href="http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/" title="itsbetterwithwindows.com">3:30</a> [itsbetterwithwindows.com] a bit about family safety, just how long will it take young Juan to bypass it and find the pjorn ? I see at 3:38 tobacco is deemed unsafe to even look at on a web site. Assault rifle I guess gets through no problem. Who would stoop to exploiting parental fears to sell product<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:|</htmltext>
<tokenext>No mention of anyone walking off with all your financial information , merely by clicking on an URL or opening an email attachment .
Oh , wait , at 3 : 30 [ itsbetterwithwindows.com ] a bit about family safety , just how long will it take young Juan to bypass it and find the pjorn ?
I see at 3 : 38 tobacco is deemed unsafe to even look at on a web site .
Assault rifle I guess gets through no problem .
Who would stoop to exploiting parental fears to sell product : |</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No mention of anyone walking off with all your financial information, merely by clicking on an URL or opening an email attachment.
Oh, wait, at 3:30 [itsbetterwithwindows.com] a bit about family safety, just how long will it take young Juan to bypass it and find the pjorn ?
I see at 3:38 tobacco is deemed unsafe to even look at on a web site.
Assault rifle I guess gets through no problem.
Who would stoop to exploiting parental fears to sell product :|</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122395</id>
	<title>To paraphrase Homer Simpson</title>
	<author>paiute</author>
	<datestamp>1243519500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah, money. Is there anything it can't buy?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah , money .
Is there anything it ca n't buy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah, money.
Is there anything it can't buy?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122519</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243520100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know why you're being modded as funny. It really is better with Windows. Have you acually tried Linux-based EEE PCs? It's very uncomfortable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know why you 're being modded as funny .
It really is better with Windows .
Have you acually tried Linux-based EEE PCs ?
It 's very uncomfortable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know why you're being modded as funny.
It really is better with Windows.
Have you acually tried Linux-based EEE PCs?
It's very uncomfortable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123805</id>
	<title>Re:Well......</title>
	<author>Reed Solomon</author>
	<datestamp>1243526220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All the same, I was tempted to buy a 1000HE, but of course, it only comes with XP as far as I can tell.  I might end up going with one of the new dells instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All the same , I was tempted to buy a 1000HE , but of course , it only comes with XP as far as I can tell .
I might end up going with one of the new dells instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All the same, I was tempted to buy a 1000HE, but of course, it only comes with XP as far as I can tell.
I might end up going with one of the new dells instead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122043</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122599</id>
	<title>Money money money</title>
	<author>mrblonde1369</author>
	<datestamp>1243520520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round.


simply disgusting!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Money makes the world go around The world go around The world go around Money makes the world go around It makes the world go 'round .
simply disgusting !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Money makes the world go around
The world go around
The world go around
Money makes the world go around
It makes the world go 'round.
simply disgusting!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123305</id>
	<title>Asus will loose respect from you!</title>
	<author>IGUANAS</author>
	<datestamp>1243523760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And who cares? I work in the IT sector (90\%+ dominated by windows and i mean mission critical servers) and Im hearing since 2001 how in 5 years linux will gain ground, and laugh at it. any new linux user 1000 new windows users (legal or not, people prefer to steal software than use free). So stop whining. Asus does what people wants, not what a less than 1\% minority of their marketshare wants.
 Regards.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And who cares ?
I work in the IT sector ( 90 \ % + dominated by windows and i mean mission critical servers ) and Im hearing since 2001 how in 5 years linux will gain ground , and laugh at it .
any new linux user 1000 new windows users ( legal or not , people prefer to steal software than use free ) .
So stop whining .
Asus does what people wants , not what a less than 1 \ % minority of their marketshare wants .
Regards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And who cares?
I work in the IT sector (90\%+ dominated by windows and i mean mission critical servers) and Im hearing since 2001 how in 5 years linux will gain ground, and laugh at it.
any new linux user 1000 new windows users (legal or not, people prefer to steal software than use free).
So stop whining.
Asus does what people wants, not what a less than 1\% minority of their marketshare wants.
Regards.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125249</id>
	<title>So what!</title>
	<author>tignet</author>
	<datestamp>1243532160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>So Microsoft approaches Asus and says "Hey, let's do a joint advertising campaign. We'll fund $1M (totally made up number) towards the joint effort, whaddya say?" Then someone at Asus starts doing the math and says "Whoa, that's double what the whole advertising campaign would cost! Let's do this and pocket the difference!"<br>
<br>
Microsoft gets advertising on Asus's site, may get a few more sales, may cause Linux to have slightly less market-share, and to them it's worth it. Asus gets free advertising and a cash bonus, to them it's worth it. It's not the first time Microsoft has done this, and in today's market who wouldn't take some free cash?<br>
<br>
Now think about it a different way. What if the link was "It's Better with FreeBSD" instead of Windows -- would it also be a slap to Linux's face? Is the only non-slap to Linux the exclusive use of Linux?<br>
<br>
Don't read more into what happened than what it is. Asus didn't turn its back on Linux. If you could make the product work on FreeDOS and were willing to pay for an advertising campaign (with cash positive results for Asus) I'm sure you could get your own link.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So Microsoft approaches Asus and says " Hey , let 's do a joint advertising campaign .
We 'll fund $ 1M ( totally made up number ) towards the joint effort , whaddya say ?
" Then someone at Asus starts doing the math and says " Whoa , that 's double what the whole advertising campaign would cost !
Let 's do this and pocket the difference !
" Microsoft gets advertising on Asus 's site , may get a few more sales , may cause Linux to have slightly less market-share , and to them it 's worth it .
Asus gets free advertising and a cash bonus , to them it 's worth it .
It 's not the first time Microsoft has done this , and in today 's market who would n't take some free cash ?
Now think about it a different way .
What if the link was " It 's Better with FreeBSD " instead of Windows -- would it also be a slap to Linux 's face ?
Is the only non-slap to Linux the exclusive use of Linux ?
Do n't read more into what happened than what it is .
Asus did n't turn its back on Linux .
If you could make the product work on FreeDOS and were willing to pay for an advertising campaign ( with cash positive results for Asus ) I 'm sure you could get your own link .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Microsoft approaches Asus and says "Hey, let's do a joint advertising campaign.
We'll fund $1M (totally made up number) towards the joint effort, whaddya say?
" Then someone at Asus starts doing the math and says "Whoa, that's double what the whole advertising campaign would cost!
Let's do this and pocket the difference!
"

Microsoft gets advertising on Asus's site, may get a few more sales, may cause Linux to have slightly less market-share, and to them it's worth it.
Asus gets free advertising and a cash bonus, to them it's worth it.
It's not the first time Microsoft has done this, and in today's market who wouldn't take some free cash?
Now think about it a different way.
What if the link was "It's Better with FreeBSD" instead of Windows -- would it also be a slap to Linux's face?
Is the only non-slap to Linux the exclusive use of Linux?
Don't read more into what happened than what it is.
Asus didn't turn its back on Linux.
If you could make the product work on FreeDOS and were willing to pay for an advertising campaign (with cash positive results for Asus) I'm sure you could get your own link.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122077</id>
	<title>worse than religion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243517760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure Linux is a fine OS, but why force the world to adopt it?</p><p>Be happy with your free OS and move on.  Don't bother trying to convert me.  You guys are worse than a cult.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure Linux is a fine OS , but why force the world to adopt it ? Be happy with your free OS and move on .
Do n't bother trying to convert me .
You guys are worse than a cult .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure Linux is a fine OS, but why force the world to adopt it?Be happy with your free OS and move on.
Don't bother trying to convert me.
You guys are worse than a cult.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122313</id>
	<title>Re:There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>RemoWilliams84</author>
	<datestamp>1243519020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Then again, technically it would be possible to include both configurations, and have the user pick one at first boot.</p></div><p>Right, technically that would work.  But then you would have to sell a Windows license to people who didn't want it in the first place.  Unless of course you made them do a separate transaction on first boot up, but that kind of introduces hassle to people who were trying to avoid it by getting Windows in the first place.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then again , technically it would be possible to include both configurations , and have the user pick one at first boot.Right , technically that would work .
But then you would have to sell a Windows license to people who did n't want it in the first place .
Unless of course you made them do a separate transaction on first boot up , but that kind of introduces hassle to people who were trying to avoid it by getting Windows in the first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then again, technically it would be possible to include both configurations, and have the user pick one at first boot.Right, technically that would work.
But then you would have to sell a Windows license to people who didn't want it in the first place.
Unless of course you made them do a separate transaction on first boot up, but that kind of introduces hassle to people who were trying to avoid it by getting Windows in the first place.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121999</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122913</id>
	<title>On what world</title>
	<author>Murdoch5</author>
	<datestamp>1243522080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Once again Linux 0 and Windows 1, shame really.   Once you go with Linux you usally stay, I wonder what would happen if all the major computer company refused to send out computers with Windows installed.
<br>
<br>
It would be a funny experiment to see, on one hand you'd have the group who only uses Linux and they'd be fine and everyone else would finally have to learn how to use a computer with a proper OS installed, because to quote the greatest developer of the 20th century
<p><div class="quote"><p>I don't think they're equally flawed. I think Leopard is a much better system. On the other hand, (I've found) OS X in some ways is actually worse than Windows to program for. Their file system is complete and utter crap, which is scary. I think OS X is nicer than Windows in many ways, but neither can hold a candle to my own (Linux). It's a race to second place.</p></div><p>
Personally I agree 100\%, it's a race to second and Linux will always have first.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Once again Linux 0 and Windows 1 , shame really .
Once you go with Linux you usally stay , I wonder what would happen if all the major computer company refused to send out computers with Windows installed .
It would be a funny experiment to see , on one hand you 'd have the group who only uses Linux and they 'd be fine and everyone else would finally have to learn how to use a computer with a proper OS installed , because to quote the greatest developer of the 20th century I do n't think they 're equally flawed .
I think Leopard is a much better system .
On the other hand , ( I 've found ) OS X in some ways is actually worse than Windows to program for .
Their file system is complete and utter crap , which is scary .
I think OS X is nicer than Windows in many ways , but neither can hold a candle to my own ( Linux ) .
It 's a race to second place .
Personally I agree 100 \ % , it 's a race to second and Linux will always have first .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Once again Linux 0 and Windows 1, shame really.
Once you go with Linux you usally stay, I wonder what would happen if all the major computer company refused to send out computers with Windows installed.
It would be a funny experiment to see, on one hand you'd have the group who only uses Linux and they'd be fine and everyone else would finally have to learn how to use a computer with a proper OS installed, because to quote the greatest developer of the 20th century
I don't think they're equally flawed.
I think Leopard is a much better system.
On the other hand, (I've found) OS X in some ways is actually worse than Windows to program for.
Their file system is complete and utter crap, which is scary.
I think OS X is nicer than Windows in many ways, but neither can hold a candle to my own (Linux).
It's a race to second place.
Personally I agree 100\%, it's a race to second and Linux will always have first.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28129023</id>
	<title>Marketing</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1243544040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft has it, OSS doesn't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft has it , OSS does n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft has it, OSS doesn't.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28133267</id>
	<title>Asus Slaps Linux In the Face</title>
	<author>HellcatM</author>
	<datestamp>1243520160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And this is any worse than what kind of thing Apple is doing to Microsoft in their Apple vs PC commercial?  Actually I would agree with what the ad portrays because for the regular person PC's are easier to use than Linux.  If you get a Linux PC and just use it and don't try and change it, update drivers and such, you're fine.  Windows is easier for the regular person to use.  Its easier to add a printer, its easier to add a scanner, easier to do different things that Linux at this present time makes it difficult to do.  You can put any kind of mask over linux and its still the same OS.  Its like Windows Mobile 6, people complain that its not as simple to use as other mobile OS' and even thought handset developers will put overlays over it to try and mask the OS, its still Windows Mobile.  You still at times have to use the ugle interface in the background to do stuff.  Just like with Linux you will have to use a command prompt to do certain things, no distro has gotten past this yet.  Plus Ubuntu even thought it is probably the best distro out it still isn't loaded with a lot of multimedia drivers.  Maybe Asus and such can add the drivers but I'm not sure if they do or not.  And other Ubuntu distros like Mint are very good but still not as easy as Windows.  There is a learning curve to Linux.  Until someone stops using KDE, Gnome...etc with linux and make their own desktop environment like Apple did with FreeBSD, it may never get up there.  Linux is an OS for geeks and for it to be an OS for everyone it's going to have to be as simple as Windows and Mac OSX.  Thats the simple truth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And this is any worse than what kind of thing Apple is doing to Microsoft in their Apple vs PC commercial ?
Actually I would agree with what the ad portrays because for the regular person PC 's are easier to use than Linux .
If you get a Linux PC and just use it and do n't try and change it , update drivers and such , you 're fine .
Windows is easier for the regular person to use .
Its easier to add a printer , its easier to add a scanner , easier to do different things that Linux at this present time makes it difficult to do .
You can put any kind of mask over linux and its still the same OS .
Its like Windows Mobile 6 , people complain that its not as simple to use as other mobile OS ' and even thought handset developers will put overlays over it to try and mask the OS , its still Windows Mobile .
You still at times have to use the ugle interface in the background to do stuff .
Just like with Linux you will have to use a command prompt to do certain things , no distro has gotten past this yet .
Plus Ubuntu even thought it is probably the best distro out it still is n't loaded with a lot of multimedia drivers .
Maybe Asus and such can add the drivers but I 'm not sure if they do or not .
And other Ubuntu distros like Mint are very good but still not as easy as Windows .
There is a learning curve to Linux .
Until someone stops using KDE , Gnome...etc with linux and make their own desktop environment like Apple did with FreeBSD , it may never get up there .
Linux is an OS for geeks and for it to be an OS for everyone it 's going to have to be as simple as Windows and Mac OSX .
Thats the simple truth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this is any worse than what kind of thing Apple is doing to Microsoft in their Apple vs PC commercial?
Actually I would agree with what the ad portrays because for the regular person PC's are easier to use than Linux.
If you get a Linux PC and just use it and don't try and change it, update drivers and such, you're fine.
Windows is easier for the regular person to use.
Its easier to add a printer, its easier to add a scanner, easier to do different things that Linux at this present time makes it difficult to do.
You can put any kind of mask over linux and its still the same OS.
Its like Windows Mobile 6, people complain that its not as simple to use as other mobile OS' and even thought handset developers will put overlays over it to try and mask the OS, its still Windows Mobile.
You still at times have to use the ugle interface in the background to do stuff.
Just like with Linux you will have to use a command prompt to do certain things, no distro has gotten past this yet.
Plus Ubuntu even thought it is probably the best distro out it still isn't loaded with a lot of multimedia drivers.
Maybe Asus and such can add the drivers but I'm not sure if they do or not.
And other Ubuntu distros like Mint are very good but still not as easy as Windows.
There is a learning curve to Linux.
Until someone stops using KDE, Gnome...etc with linux and make their own desktop environment like Apple did with FreeBSD, it may never get up there.
Linux is an OS for geeks and for it to be an OS for everyone it's going to have to be as simple as Windows and Mac OSX.
Thats the simple truth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122013</id>
	<title>Need More Spin</title>
	<author>rliden</author>
	<datestamp>1243517280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This should be posted in the "Need More Spin" category.  I don't see how Microsoft funding a marketing campaign targeted at a threatening competitor (Linux) is really news.  In fact, it's not so different from techgeist.com creating an inflamatory article with some spin on it to generate clicks.  I guess everyone has to make money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This should be posted in the " Need More Spin " category .
I do n't see how Microsoft funding a marketing campaign targeted at a threatening competitor ( Linux ) is really news .
In fact , it 's not so different from techgeist.com creating an inflamatory article with some spin on it to generate clicks .
I guess everyone has to make money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This should be posted in the "Need More Spin" category.
I don't see how Microsoft funding a marketing campaign targeted at a threatening competitor (Linux) is really news.
In fact, it's not so different from techgeist.com creating an inflamatory article with some spin on it to generate clicks.
I guess everyone has to make money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122763</id>
	<title>Calm down, the campaing is a fake.</title>
	<author>Qbertino</author>
	<datestamp>1243521300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The campaing is a fake. Somebody took Asus EEE commercial videos and slapped a crappy looking badly aligned 'It's better with Windows' Slogan over it. Fonts aren't MS branding and the layout of the website is notably amatureish. You all have been trolled, so chill. It's a compareatively elaborate troll though, I give him that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The campaing is a fake .
Somebody took Asus EEE commercial videos and slapped a crappy looking badly aligned 'It 's better with Windows ' Slogan over it .
Fonts are n't MS branding and the layout of the website is notably amatureish .
You all have been trolled , so chill .
It 's a compareatively elaborate troll though , I give him that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The campaing is a fake.
Somebody took Asus EEE commercial videos and slapped a crappy looking badly aligned 'It's better with Windows' Slogan over it.
Fonts aren't MS branding and the layout of the website is notably amatureish.
You all have been trolled, so chill.
It's a compareatively elaborate troll though, I give him that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28130697</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>mrmeval</author>
	<datestamp>1243507320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As bad as M$ is the free software community can be as obnoxious. Go look up how ASUS EEPC user who were absolutely NOT linux savvy faired when looking for help. Go run Ubuntu and see that it's more locked down than Windows and how they've ripped out the ability to turn on power user features. Consider xorg that broke long term needed functionality. Try and converse with pulseaudions to get sound working in Fedora. I applaud ASUS for trying but Linux will not be ready for mainstream users for another 20 years due to the tech clueless culture and the people clueless FOSS developers. Considering the difficulties I'm having getting modern hardware working with a Linux distribution I won't be removing windows from my ASUS netbook soon cause it just works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As bad as M $ is the free software community can be as obnoxious .
Go look up how ASUS EEPC user who were absolutely NOT linux savvy faired when looking for help .
Go run Ubuntu and see that it 's more locked down than Windows and how they 've ripped out the ability to turn on power user features .
Consider xorg that broke long term needed functionality .
Try and converse with pulseaudions to get sound working in Fedora .
I applaud ASUS for trying but Linux will not be ready for mainstream users for another 20 years due to the tech clueless culture and the people clueless FOSS developers .
Considering the difficulties I 'm having getting modern hardware working with a Linux distribution I wo n't be removing windows from my ASUS netbook soon cause it just works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As bad as M$ is the free software community can be as obnoxious.
Go look up how ASUS EEPC user who were absolutely NOT linux savvy faired when looking for help.
Go run Ubuntu and see that it's more locked down than Windows and how they've ripped out the ability to turn on power user features.
Consider xorg that broke long term needed functionality.
Try and converse with pulseaudions to get sound working in Fedora.
I applaud ASUS for trying but Linux will not be ready for mainstream users for another 20 years due to the tech clueless culture and the people clueless FOSS developers.
Considering the difficulties I'm having getting modern hardware working with a Linux distribution I won't be removing windows from my ASUS netbook soon cause it just works.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28142259</id>
	<title>Slap in fact or marketing choice option?</title>
	<author>lpq</author>
	<datestamp>1243627980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is ASUS removing (and no longer supporting) their previously designed and installed Linux offerings?  If not, I wouldn't call it a slap in the face, but just MS marketing 'Hype' attempting to compete with what may be the better performance of a Linux-installed computer.</p><p>If MS is requiring ASUS to no longer offer Linux -- it seems like this would be a perfect example of MS using their monopoly position to shut out competition, setting them up for more monopoly abuse lawsuits.  If's it's only another option offered by MS -- of course MS will say their stuff is better.</p><p>The original article doesn't indicate that the Linux offerings will be discontinued -- just that ASUS is finally<br>allowing MS to provide an ASUS tuned version of (presumably, XP) to try to compete.  I don't see that as a slap -- just S.O.P.</p><p>-linda</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is ASUS removing ( and no longer supporting ) their previously designed and installed Linux offerings ?
If not , I would n't call it a slap in the face , but just MS marketing 'Hype ' attempting to compete with what may be the better performance of a Linux-installed computer.If MS is requiring ASUS to no longer offer Linux -- it seems like this would be a perfect example of MS using their monopoly position to shut out competition , setting them up for more monopoly abuse lawsuits .
If 's it 's only another option offered by MS -- of course MS will say their stuff is better.The original article does n't indicate that the Linux offerings will be discontinued -- just that ASUS is finallyallowing MS to provide an ASUS tuned version of ( presumably , XP ) to try to compete .
I do n't see that as a slap -- just S.O.P.-linda</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is ASUS removing (and no longer supporting) their previously designed and installed Linux offerings?
If not, I wouldn't call it a slap in the face, but just MS marketing 'Hype' attempting to compete with what may be the better performance of a Linux-installed computer.If MS is requiring ASUS to no longer offer Linux -- it seems like this would be a perfect example of MS using their monopoly position to shut out competition, setting them up for more monopoly abuse lawsuits.
If's it's only another option offered by MS -- of course MS will say their stuff is better.The original article doesn't indicate that the Linux offerings will be discontinued -- just that ASUS is finallyallowing MS to provide an ASUS tuned version of (presumably, XP) to try to compete.
I don't see that as a slap -- just S.O.P.-linda</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28130173</id>
	<title>Anti-Linux netbooks in the WSJ today...</title>
	<author>at.drinian</author>
	<datestamp>1243505160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think Microsoft might be making another push to get Windows on more netbooks. There was a poorly-written piece in the Wall Street Journal today warning consumers not to buy netbooks with Linux.

<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html" title="wsj.com" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html</a> [wsj.com]

Once, just once, I would like to see a column from them warning consumers that their Windows netbooks will not work out-of-the-box with Office documents -- which is true (what netbook comes with an Office license?).</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Microsoft might be making another push to get Windows on more netbooks .
There was a poorly-written piece in the Wall Street Journal today warning consumers not to buy netbooks with Linux .
http : //online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html [ wsj.com ] Once , just once , I would like to see a column from them warning consumers that their Windows netbooks will not work out-of-the-box with Office documents -- which is true ( what netbook comes with an Office license ?
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Microsoft might be making another push to get Windows on more netbooks.
There was a poorly-written piece in the Wall Street Journal today warning consumers not to buy netbooks with Linux.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124346723960760371.html [wsj.com]

Once, just once, I would like to see a column from them warning consumers that their Windows netbooks will not work out-of-the-box with Office documents -- which is true (what netbook comes with an Office license?
).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124115</id>
	<title>Don't forget, it also protects your family</title>
	<author>3.1415926535</author>
	<datestamp>1243527600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because, you know, that "unfamiliar environment" will kill your children and steal your wife!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because , you know , that " unfamiliar environment " will kill your children and steal your wife !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because, you know, that "unfamiliar environment" will kill your children and steal your wife!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122433</id>
	<title>ASUS never took Linux seriously...</title>
	<author>Martin Soto</author>
	<datestamp>1243519740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>and I guess this applies to the large majority of netbook manufactures as well. I don't own a netbook, but there are stories all around the Internet about Linux netbooks being shipped with broken distributions that don't even support the netbook's integrated hardware properly. I'm perfectly aware of the fact that Linux doesn't support all hardware in the market, but manufactures have control over the hardware they put in a computer, so this should never happen (as long as they care about it, that is).</p><p>Sadly, this netbook Linux story seems to have been just an attempt from computer manufacturers to force Microsoft into compliance. And, as today's story shows, they are being quite successful in their pursue. We can now expect most manufactures to ditch Linux in favor of Windows 7, since MS seems to be bending under their pressure by giving them special Windows 7 pricing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and I guess this applies to the large majority of netbook manufactures as well .
I do n't own a netbook , but there are stories all around the Internet about Linux netbooks being shipped with broken distributions that do n't even support the netbook 's integrated hardware properly .
I 'm perfectly aware of the fact that Linux does n't support all hardware in the market , but manufactures have control over the hardware they put in a computer , so this should never happen ( as long as they care about it , that is ) .Sadly , this netbook Linux story seems to have been just an attempt from computer manufacturers to force Microsoft into compliance .
And , as today 's story shows , they are being quite successful in their pursue .
We can now expect most manufactures to ditch Linux in favor of Windows 7 , since MS seems to be bending under their pressure by giving them special Windows 7 pricing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and I guess this applies to the large majority of netbook manufactures as well.
I don't own a netbook, but there are stories all around the Internet about Linux netbooks being shipped with broken distributions that don't even support the netbook's integrated hardware properly.
I'm perfectly aware of the fact that Linux doesn't support all hardware in the market, but manufactures have control over the hardware they put in a computer, so this should never happen (as long as they care about it, that is).Sadly, this netbook Linux story seems to have been just an attempt from computer manufacturers to force Microsoft into compliance.
And, as today's story shows, they are being quite successful in their pursue.
We can now expect most manufactures to ditch Linux in favor of Windows 7, since MS seems to be bending under their pressure by giving them special Windows 7 pricing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122623</id>
	<title>I'm really not surprised</title>
	<author>MadJo</author>
	<datestamp>1243520580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Linux magazine at home, with an ASUS ad for their laptops on the back of it, saying "ASUS recommends Windows Vista".</p><p>But they are going to lose my patronage with this slap in the face of the people that helped make the new netbook segment a success.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Linux magazine at home , with an ASUS ad for their laptops on the back of it , saying " ASUS recommends Windows Vista " .But they are going to lose my patronage with this slap in the face of the people that helped make the new netbook segment a success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Linux magazine at home, with an ASUS ad for their laptops on the back of it, saying "ASUS recommends Windows Vista".But they are going to lose my patronage with this slap in the face of the people that helped make the new netbook segment a success.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28171445</id>
	<title>Then again, yesterday, at Computex in Taiwan,</title>
	<author>walter\_f</author>
	<datestamp>1243886040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Asus slapped Intel and Microsoft in their respective faces, in a single stroke, see:</p><p>
&nbsp; Asus introduces Qualcomm Snapdragon-based Eee PC running Google Android<br><a href="http://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/asus-introduces-qualcomm-snapdragon-based-eee-pc-running-google-android-video.html" title="liliputing.com">http://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/asus-introduces-qualcomm-snapdragon-based-eee-pc-running-google-android-video.html</a> [liliputing.com]</p><p>This hardware will probably be suitable to run the Linux flavor of one's choice, I guess.</p><p>And Microsoft's out of the game here.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... Asus slapped Intel and Microsoft in their respective faces , in a single stroke , see :   Asus introduces Qualcomm Snapdragon-based Eee PC running Google Androidhttp : //www.liliputing.com/2009/06/asus-introduces-qualcomm-snapdragon-based-eee-pc-running-google-android-video.html [ liliputing.com ] This hardware will probably be suitable to run the Linux flavor of one 's choice , I guess.And Microsoft 's out of the game here .
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... Asus slapped Intel and Microsoft in their respective faces, in a single stroke, see:
  Asus introduces Qualcomm Snapdragon-based Eee PC running Google Androidhttp://www.liliputing.com/2009/06/asus-introduces-qualcomm-snapdragon-based-eee-pc-running-google-android-video.html [liliputing.com]This hardware will probably be suitable to run the Linux flavor of one's choice, I guess.And Microsoft's out of the game here.
;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121725</id>
	<title>AKA Marketing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243515660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Tell me lies<br>Tell me sweet little lies<br>(tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies)"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Tell me liesTell me sweet little lies ( tell me lies , tell me , tell me lies ) "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Tell me liesTell me sweet little lies(tell me lies, tell me, tell me lies)"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122725</id>
	<title>Re:Asus screwed up</title>
	<author>perryizgr8</author>
	<datestamp>1243521060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It has been a love affair ever since.</p></div><p>hey, i'm all for linux and open source stuff. but a LOVE AFFAIR with a FUCKING OS?!?<br>that's pretty sick!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It has been a love affair ever since.hey , i 'm all for linux and open source stuff .
but a LOVE AFFAIR with a FUCKING OS ? !
? that 's pretty sick !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has been a love affair ever since.hey, i'm all for linux and open source stuff.
but a LOVE AFFAIR with a FUCKING OS?!
?that's pretty sick!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121955</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124181</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243527840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a month ago I walk through an Asus showroom in Taipei, seeing their EEEs - sadly, all model displayed (means actively promoted) are in Windows, Linux is no longer being seen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a month ago I walk through an Asus showroom in Taipei , seeing their EEEs - sadly , all model displayed ( means actively promoted ) are in Windows , Linux is no longer being seen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a month ago I walk through an Asus showroom in Taipei, seeing their EEEs - sadly, all model displayed (means actively promoted) are in Windows, Linux is no longer being seen.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122897</id>
	<title>They didn't really...</title>
	<author>alc6379</author>
	<datestamp>1243521960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>do Linux any favors with the half-assed customized version of Xandros they chose, anyways. At least, not on the 900A. It was crippled, and after the first update, you didn't have any disk space left with a 4GB SSD!<br> <br>

ASUS would have made a more palatable choice had they chosen an OS configuration that was actually usable, as well as being more customizable than the almost broken OS they installed on there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>do Linux any favors with the half-assed customized version of Xandros they chose , anyways .
At least , not on the 900A .
It was crippled , and after the first update , you did n't have any disk space left with a 4GB SSD !
ASUS would have made a more palatable choice had they chosen an OS configuration that was actually usable , as well as being more customizable than the almost broken OS they installed on there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>do Linux any favors with the half-assed customized version of Xandros they chose, anyways.
At least, not on the 900A.
It was crippled, and after the first update, you didn't have any disk space left with a 4GB SSD!
ASUS would have made a more palatable choice had they chosen an OS configuration that was actually usable, as well as being more customizable than the almost broken OS they installed on there.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123037</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Linux fans,</title>
	<author>Murdoch5</author>
	<datestamp>1243522500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Then don't compile the distro, use a Binary distro like Ubuntu, install wine or cedega and play Half Life, and BTW it's not unusual for a game on Wine or Cegeda to run run faster then it would on Windows.  Not all Distro's are sourced based, Just the best ones are.  Linux period will take Windows under the table in a benchmarking anytime, anywhere, no questions.  If you don't like Linux fine but at least be able to complan about it in a fair manor. It's clear from your comment you don't know enough (or anything) about Linux so don't run your mouth at it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Then do n't compile the distro , use a Binary distro like Ubuntu , install wine or cedega and play Half Life , and BTW it 's not unusual for a game on Wine or Cegeda to run run faster then it would on Windows .
Not all Distro 's are sourced based , Just the best ones are .
Linux period will take Windows under the table in a benchmarking anytime , anywhere , no questions .
If you do n't like Linux fine but at least be able to complan about it in a fair manor .
It 's clear from your comment you do n't know enough ( or anything ) about Linux so do n't run your mouth at it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then don't compile the distro, use a Binary distro like Ubuntu, install wine or cedega and play Half Life, and BTW it's not unusual for a game on Wine or Cegeda to run run faster then it would on Windows.
Not all Distro's are sourced based, Just the best ones are.
Linux period will take Windows under the table in a benchmarking anytime, anywhere, no questions.
If you don't like Linux fine but at least be able to complan about it in a fair manor.
It's clear from your comment you don't know enough (or anything) about Linux so don't run your mouth at it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123943</id>
	<title>Re:Nearly there....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243526820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Got rid of Linux...</p><p>Now why not get rid of the Eee altogether.</p><p>I sat through nearly all that rubbish and there is nothing that they were doing that I can't do on my phone (And I've got a 2 year old SE k610i).</p><p>Oh wait!  I couldn't run Microsoft Works....</p></div><p>Type a report, essay, or document perhaps? I'd pay good money to see what your thumbs looked like afterwards.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Got rid of Linux...Now why not get rid of the Eee altogether.I sat through nearly all that rubbish and there is nothing that they were doing that I ca n't do on my phone ( And I 've got a 2 year old SE k610i ) .Oh wait !
I could n't run Microsoft Works....Type a report , essay , or document perhaps ?
I 'd pay good money to see what your thumbs looked like afterwards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Got rid of Linux...Now why not get rid of the Eee altogether.I sat through nearly all that rubbish and there is nothing that they were doing that I can't do on my phone (And I've got a 2 year old SE k610i).Oh wait!
I couldn't run Microsoft Works....Type a report, essay, or document perhaps?
I'd pay good money to see what your thumbs looked like afterwards.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28129479</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1243502400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>,i&gt;This isn't the end of the world. Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows and Linux?</p><p>No, you can have any OS you like as long as it is Linux (Redhat, Ubuntu, SuSE, Mandrake, Gentoo)</p><p><i>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux. See?</i></p><p>No, you can buy any OS you like as long as it is Linux (Redhat, Ubuntu, SuSE, Mandrake, Gentoo)</p><p><i>Ultimately this is business, and it ain't pretty.</i></p><p>Maybe it needs a bailout from the guberment</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>,i &gt; This is n't the end of the world .
Ca n't we all realise that there 's a market for both Windows and Linux ? No , you can have any OS you like as long as it is Linux ( Redhat , Ubuntu , SuSE , Mandrake , Gentoo ) Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it , those who do n't can buy Linux .
See ? No , you can buy any OS you like as long as it is Linux ( Redhat , Ubuntu , SuSE , Mandrake , Gentoo ) Ultimately this is business , and it ai n't pretty.Maybe it needs a bailout from the guberment</tokentext>
<sentencetext>,i&gt;This isn't the end of the world.
Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows and Linux?No, you can have any OS you like as long as it is Linux (Redhat, Ubuntu, SuSE, Mandrake, Gentoo)Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can buy Linux.
See?No, you can buy any OS you like as long as it is Linux (Redhat, Ubuntu, SuSE, Mandrake, Gentoo)Ultimately this is business, and it ain't pretty.Maybe it needs a bailout from the guberment</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123023</id>
	<title>I'm sorry...</title>
	<author>XDirtypunkX</author>
	<datestamp>1243522500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, I thought this was a kdawson post.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , I thought this was a kdawson post .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, I thought this was a kdawson post.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122387</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Linux fans,</title>
	<author>x2A</author>
	<datestamp>1243519440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A) Slashdot has a very vocal group of whiney emotionally reactive girls<br>B) Slashdot has a vocal group of Linux fans<br>
&nbsp; - therefore<br>C) All linux fans are whiney emotionally reactive girls.</p><p>I call faulty logic. A and B being true doesn't imply any truthiness to C.</p><p>I also question your use of the word 'love'... that was sarcasm right?</p><p>Your spelling was spot on though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A ) Slashdot has a very vocal group of whiney emotionally reactive girlsB ) Slashdot has a vocal group of Linux fans   - thereforeC ) All linux fans are whiney emotionally reactive girls.I call faulty logic .
A and B being true does n't imply any truthiness to C.I also question your use of the word 'love'... that was sarcasm right ? Your spelling was spot on though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A) Slashdot has a very vocal group of whiney emotionally reactive girlsB) Slashdot has a vocal group of Linux fans
  - thereforeC) All linux fans are whiney emotionally reactive girls.I call faulty logic.
A and B being true doesn't imply any truthiness to C.I also question your use of the word 'love'... that was sarcasm right?Your spelling was spot on though.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121819</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122979</id>
	<title>Microsoft is breaking the law everywhere.</title>
	<author>jotaeleemeese</author>
	<datestamp>1243522320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linus Torvalds isn't.</p><p>What is your next stupid question?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linus Torvalds is n't.What is your next stupid question ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linus Torvalds isn't.What is your next stupid question?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122409</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28139243</id>
	<title>Re:There's a problem here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243614000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From a former FreeBSD with the fondest of memories, I must congratulate you on a most excellent troll.</p><p>You still get no biscuit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From a former FreeBSD with the fondest of memories , I must congratulate you on a most excellent troll.You still get no biscuit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From a former FreeBSD with the fondest of memories, I must congratulate you on a most excellent troll.You still get no biscuit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124071</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</id>
	<title>I agree</title>
	<author>ciderVisor</author>
	<datestamp>1243515720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It <b>is</b> better with Windows.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is better with Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is better with Windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121811</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I installed Linux over the Linux install that came with my Acer Aspire One. So yeah, it doesn't really matter what the laptop ships with - unless the Linux version is cheaper than the Windows version. If the price is the same, I'll take the Windows license just in case I have a need for it.<br>.<br>Of course for the "average user" it's a completely different matter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I installed Linux over the Linux install that came with my Acer Aspire One .
So yeah , it does n't really matter what the laptop ships with - unless the Linux version is cheaper than the Windows version .
If the price is the same , I 'll take the Windows license just in case I have a need for it..Of course for the " average user " it 's a completely different matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I installed Linux over the Linux install that came with my Acer Aspire One.
So yeah, it doesn't really matter what the laptop ships with - unless the Linux version is cheaper than the Windows version.
If the price is the same, I'll take the Windows license just in case I have a need for it..Of course for the "average user" it's a completely different matter.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122319</id>
	<title>itsbetterwithlinux.com</title>
	<author>LeafStorm</author>
	<datestamp>1243519080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone should make a site like that. It wouldn't be hard at all to make a site better than itsbetterwithwindows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone should make a site like that .
It would n't be hard at all to make a site better than itsbetterwithwindows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone should make a site like that.
It wouldn't be hard at all to make a site better than itsbetterwithwindows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124409</id>
	<title>Works fine for non-technical users</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1243528620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Yes, that site looks fake.
</p><p>
I have a few Eee PC 2G Surf models, which I got cheaply from a company that bought a bunch of them.  (The black ones were accepted, but their executives wouldn't be seen with the more unusual colors.)  So I reloaded a pink unit from the CD, back to its factory state, and gave it to a friend of mine.  She's non-technical, a horse trainer.  She has a Windows laptop at home, but the 2G Surf is small enough to carry around for e-mail reading, web browsing, and Open Office work in coffee shops.  She likes it and hasn't had any problems with it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , that site looks fake .
I have a few Eee PC 2G Surf models , which I got cheaply from a company that bought a bunch of them .
( The black ones were accepted , but their executives would n't be seen with the more unusual colors .
) So I reloaded a pink unit from the CD , back to its factory state , and gave it to a friend of mine .
She 's non-technical , a horse trainer .
She has a Windows laptop at home , but the 2G Surf is small enough to carry around for e-mail reading , web browsing , and Open Office work in coffee shops .
She likes it and has n't had any problems with it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Yes, that site looks fake.
I have a few Eee PC 2G Surf models, which I got cheaply from a company that bought a bunch of them.
(The black ones were accepted, but their executives wouldn't be seen with the more unusual colors.
)  So I reloaded a pink unit from the CD, back to its factory state, and gave it to a friend of mine.
She's non-technical, a horse trainer.
She has a Windows laptop at home, but the 2G Surf is small enough to carry around for e-mail reading, web browsing, and Open Office work in coffee shops.
She likes it and hasn't had any problems with it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122919</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1243522080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know that there is more than colorful-clickable toy-OSes, do you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know that there is more than colorful-clickable toy-OSes , do you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know that there is more than colorful-clickable toy-OSes, do you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121969</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121821</id>
	<title>Re:How much money changed hands?</title>
	<author>readthemall</author>
	<datestamp>1243516200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>Money / Pink Floyd</b> <br> <br>

Money, get away<br>
Get a good job with more pay and your O.K.<br>
Money it's a gas<br>
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash<br>
New car, caviar, four star daydream,<br>
Think I'll buy me a football team<br>
Money get back<br>
I'm all right Jack keep your hands off my stack.<br>
Money it's a hit<br>
Don't give me that do goody good bullshit<br>
I'm in the hi-fidelity first class traveling set<br>
And I think I need a Lear jet<br>
Money it's a crime<br>
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie<br>
Money so they say<br>
Is the root of all evil today<br>
But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise that they're<br>
giving none away</htmltext>
<tokenext>Money / Pink Floyd Money , get away Get a good job with more pay and your O.K .
Money it 's a gas Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash New car , caviar , four star daydream , Think I 'll buy me a football team Money get back I 'm all right Jack keep your hands off my stack .
Money it 's a hit Do n't give me that do goody good bullshit I 'm in the hi-fidelity first class traveling set And I think I need a Lear jet Money it 's a crime Share it fairly but do n't take a slice of my pie Money so they say Is the root of all evil today But if you ask for a rise it 's no surprise that they 're giving none away</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Money / Pink Floyd  

Money, get away
Get a good job with more pay and your O.K.
Money it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money get back
I'm all right Jack keep your hands off my stack.
Money it's a hit
Don't give me that do goody good bullshit
I'm in the hi-fidelity first class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet
Money it's a crime
Share it fairly but don't take a slice of my pie
Money so they say
Is the root of all evil today
But if you ask for a rise it's no surprise that they're
giving none away</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124603</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>leebier</author>
	<datestamp>1243529340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love my EEE, and I went linux so I could use it like an "internet appliance" rather than supporting yet another XP computer in my house. I also liked the more storage space, FOSS software, etc.</p><p>That said, I don't know if I'd do it again, and ironically, I don't know if I'd recommend it to a novice because there are just enough random things that don't work right. ASUS isn't an OS-maker and doesn't seem to intend to act like one.</p><p>The update feature was broken for the first 6 months of the 901's life. I couldn't use Firefox 3.0 for the first 4 months it was out because ASUS hadn't updated something on their backend. Wireless (like in much of linux, sorry) is spotty and even wired network connections are not a guarantee (I've had multiple hotel networks fail to assign an IP address, I can tweak at home, but not on the road).</p><p>I've had alt-tab (and control+T) randomly stop working twice.</p><p>I'm no Linux pro (I know enough to get my mythbox working, and little more), but of course, for this kind of device you shouldn't have to be (nor for linux to hit the mainstream either). Moreover, the use of an obscure distro means there's very little support online.</p><p>Moral of the story: Asus needs to do one of the following 1) Become a real OS provider. 2) Find another distro that someone has committed to support and document. 3) Go Windows.</p><p>I love my EEE and don't look forward to having to replace it someday, but when I do, unless they fix these other issues, I just may go with the Windows solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love my EEE , and I went linux so I could use it like an " internet appliance " rather than supporting yet another XP computer in my house .
I also liked the more storage space , FOSS software , etc.That said , I do n't know if I 'd do it again , and ironically , I do n't know if I 'd recommend it to a novice because there are just enough random things that do n't work right .
ASUS is n't an OS-maker and does n't seem to intend to act like one.The update feature was broken for the first 6 months of the 901 's life .
I could n't use Firefox 3.0 for the first 4 months it was out because ASUS had n't updated something on their backend .
Wireless ( like in much of linux , sorry ) is spotty and even wired network connections are not a guarantee ( I 've had multiple hotel networks fail to assign an IP address , I can tweak at home , but not on the road ) .I 've had alt-tab ( and control + T ) randomly stop working twice.I 'm no Linux pro ( I know enough to get my mythbox working , and little more ) , but of course , for this kind of device you should n't have to be ( nor for linux to hit the mainstream either ) .
Moreover , the use of an obscure distro means there 's very little support online.Moral of the story : Asus needs to do one of the following 1 ) Become a real OS provider .
2 ) Find another distro that someone has committed to support and document .
3 ) Go Windows.I love my EEE and do n't look forward to having to replace it someday , but when I do , unless they fix these other issues , I just may go with the Windows solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love my EEE, and I went linux so I could use it like an "internet appliance" rather than supporting yet another XP computer in my house.
I also liked the more storage space, FOSS software, etc.That said, I don't know if I'd do it again, and ironically, I don't know if I'd recommend it to a novice because there are just enough random things that don't work right.
ASUS isn't an OS-maker and doesn't seem to intend to act like one.The update feature was broken for the first 6 months of the 901's life.
I couldn't use Firefox 3.0 for the first 4 months it was out because ASUS hadn't updated something on their backend.
Wireless (like in much of linux, sorry) is spotty and even wired network connections are not a guarantee (I've had multiple hotel networks fail to assign an IP address, I can tweak at home, but not on the road).I've had alt-tab (and control+T) randomly stop working twice.I'm no Linux pro (I know enough to get my mythbox working, and little more), but of course, for this kind of device you shouldn't have to be (nor for linux to hit the mainstream either).
Moreover, the use of an obscure distro means there's very little support online.Moral of the story: Asus needs to do one of the following 1) Become a real OS provider.
2) Find another distro that someone has committed to support and document.
3) Go Windows.I love my EEE and don't look forward to having to replace it someday, but when I do, unless they fix these other issues, I just may go with the Windows solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123157</id>
	<title>Finally someone rises the flag!</title>
	<author>VincenzoRomano</author>
	<datestamp>1243523100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I personally run Linux on ASUS laptops since 2004. More or less happily.<br>
But the point here is quite simple: Linux does it better, but it takes time and sweat to.<br>
In 5 years no single distribution I tried (Gentoo, KUbuntu, Ubuntu, Fedora<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...) left me with a usable system.<br>
From time to time, the NetworkManager, the Bluetooth, the graphics card, the audio chip, the optical authoring, the webcam and so on awarded me with headaches and troubles.<br>
Linux can be made more secure by far, it can sqeeze every single CPU cycle and can provide the best experience ever.<br>
But not all at once and not with a single installation and not completely.<br>
This is the dark part of the Linux. Resource fragmentation.<br>Too many projects trying to do more or less the same things, and none succeeding at 100\%, and not even 75\%.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I personally run Linux on ASUS laptops since 2004 .
More or less happily .
But the point here is quite simple : Linux does it better , but it takes time and sweat to .
In 5 years no single distribution I tried ( Gentoo , KUbuntu , Ubuntu , Fedora ... ) left me with a usable system .
From time to time , the NetworkManager , the Bluetooth , the graphics card , the audio chip , the optical authoring , the webcam and so on awarded me with headaches and troubles .
Linux can be made more secure by far , it can sqeeze every single CPU cycle and can provide the best experience ever .
But not all at once and not with a single installation and not completely .
This is the dark part of the Linux .
Resource fragmentation.Too many projects trying to do more or less the same things , and none succeeding at 100 \ % , and not even 75 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I personally run Linux on ASUS laptops since 2004.
More or less happily.
But the point here is quite simple: Linux does it better, but it takes time and sweat to.
In 5 years no single distribution I tried (Gentoo, KUbuntu, Ubuntu, Fedora ...) left me with a usable system.
From time to time, the NetworkManager, the Bluetooth, the graphics card, the audio chip, the optical authoring, the webcam and so on awarded me with headaches and troubles.
Linux can be made more secure by far, it can sqeeze every single CPU cycle and can provide the best experience ever.
But not all at once and not with a single installation and not completely.
This is the dark part of the Linux.
Resource fragmentation.Too many projects trying to do more or less the same things, and none succeeding at 100\%, and not even 75\%.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123887</id>
	<title>Asus Half-Hearted Linux</title>
	<author>ElmoGonzo</author>
	<datestamp>1243526640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had a EEE PC 1000 Linux for a little less than year.  Being essentially lazy, I haven't put forth the effort needed to tweak the distro -- I've left it pretty much alone.  If Asus wanted to make inroads with this, they would need to provide more than half-baked support for it.  They did a good job of providing an automatic system to get updates but no way to customize it for your system so I'm continually nagged to install upgrades for Chinese input switching that I don't need, fixes to the display on the 900 models, etc.  Not providing that support, it isn't surprising that the forums are filled with unhappy people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had a EEE PC 1000 Linux for a little less than year .
Being essentially lazy , I have n't put forth the effort needed to tweak the distro -- I 've left it pretty much alone .
If Asus wanted to make inroads with this , they would need to provide more than half-baked support for it .
They did a good job of providing an automatic system to get updates but no way to customize it for your system so I 'm continually nagged to install upgrades for Chinese input switching that I do n't need , fixes to the display on the 900 models , etc .
Not providing that support , it is n't surprising that the forums are filled with unhappy people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had a EEE PC 1000 Linux for a little less than year.
Being essentially lazy, I haven't put forth the effort needed to tweak the distro -- I've left it pretty much alone.
If Asus wanted to make inroads with this, they would need to provide more than half-baked support for it.
They did a good job of providing an automatic system to get updates but no way to customize it for your system so I'm continually nagged to install upgrades for Chinese input switching that I don't need, fixes to the display on the 900 models, etc.
Not providing that support, it isn't surprising that the forums are filled with unhappy people.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121753</id>
	<title>Can you say "Bought by Microsoft"?</title>
	<author>Terje Mathisen</author>
	<datestamp>1243515900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This might actually make sense economically for ASUS:</p><p>\_Maybe\_ less support calls.</p><p>\_Very deep\_ discounts/kickbacks from Microsoft.</p><p>Personally I am very glad that I got the Linux version of my Eee PC 901: More flash disk and more ram, for a little less money.<br>Currently I run the latest Ubuntu Netbook remix, and I'm very happy with it. The last time I booted it into XP must have been during Easter, to debug a Windows problem.</p><p>Terje</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This might actually make sense economically for ASUS : \ _Maybe \ _ less support calls. \ _Very deep \ _ discounts/kickbacks from Microsoft.Personally I am very glad that I got the Linux version of my Eee PC 901 : More flash disk and more ram , for a little less money.Currently I run the latest Ubuntu Netbook remix , and I 'm very happy with it .
The last time I booted it into XP must have been during Easter , to debug a Windows problem.Terje</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This might actually make sense economically for ASUS:\_Maybe\_ less support calls.\_Very deep\_ discounts/kickbacks from Microsoft.Personally I am very glad that I got the Linux version of my Eee PC 901: More flash disk and more ram, for a little less money.Currently I run the latest Ubuntu Netbook remix, and I'm very happy with it.
The last time I booted it into XP must have been during Easter, to debug a Windows problem.Terje</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123861</id>
	<title>Its someone who ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243526460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... has hitched their wagon to MS.</p><p>Michael Sharp (the registrant of the domain) is, among other things a "Sharepoint consultant". He is involved in operating room "live conferencing". Obviously if non-MS software attains critical threshold, his services as a peddler of expensive proprietary Microsoft video conferencing software become less needed. So obviously *his* bottom line is "better* if everyone else continues to drink the MS koolaid.</p><p>The site itself was certainly not put up by Asus, nor (at least directly) by MS. I see another comment pointed out that it is in fact linked to by Asus, so at the very least they don't mind using it to sell more Eee's.</p><p>But regardless of who made the video - here's a message for you - Windows is used by fools that shell out way too much hard-earned money, by other fools that make unauthorized copies of it, and of course by all the fools who don't know any better who buy machines with it preinstalled that arent even aware its not 'part' of the computer.</p><p>No informed, intelligent person, in their right mind, being *aware* that they *have* a choice, actually chooses to purchase and use Windows. And yes, if anyone reading this did in fact *choose* windows, I am saying you are a fool, or insane, or too stupid to know better (Sometimes referred to as 'ignorant', or [un/mis]informed')</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... has hitched their wagon to MS.Michael Sharp ( the registrant of the domain ) is , among other things a " Sharepoint consultant " .
He is involved in operating room " live conferencing " .
Obviously if non-MS software attains critical threshold , his services as a peddler of expensive proprietary Microsoft video conferencing software become less needed .
So obviously * his * bottom line is " better * if everyone else continues to drink the MS koolaid.The site itself was certainly not put up by Asus , nor ( at least directly ) by MS. I see another comment pointed out that it is in fact linked to by Asus , so at the very least they do n't mind using it to sell more Eee 's.But regardless of who made the video - here 's a message for you - Windows is used by fools that shell out way too much hard-earned money , by other fools that make unauthorized copies of it , and of course by all the fools who do n't know any better who buy machines with it preinstalled that arent even aware its not 'part ' of the computer.No informed , intelligent person , in their right mind , being * aware * that they * have * a choice , actually chooses to purchase and use Windows .
And yes , if anyone reading this did in fact * choose * windows , I am saying you are a fool , or insane , or too stupid to know better ( Sometimes referred to as 'ignorant ' , or [ un/mis ] informed ' )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... has hitched their wagon to MS.Michael Sharp (the registrant of the domain) is, among other things a "Sharepoint consultant".
He is involved in operating room "live conferencing".
Obviously if non-MS software attains critical threshold, his services as a peddler of expensive proprietary Microsoft video conferencing software become less needed.
So obviously *his* bottom line is "better* if everyone else continues to drink the MS koolaid.The site itself was certainly not put up by Asus, nor (at least directly) by MS. I see another comment pointed out that it is in fact linked to by Asus, so at the very least they don't mind using it to sell more Eee's.But regardless of who made the video - here's a message for you - Windows is used by fools that shell out way too much hard-earned money, by other fools that make unauthorized copies of it, and of course by all the fools who don't know any better who buy machines with it preinstalled that arent even aware its not 'part' of the computer.No informed, intelligent person, in their right mind, being *aware* that they *have* a choice, actually chooses to purchase and use Windows.
And yes, if anyone reading this did in fact *choose* windows, I am saying you are a fool, or insane, or too stupid to know better (Sometimes referred to as 'ignorant', or [un/mis]informed')</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123815</id>
	<title>Nothing personal, it's just business...</title>
	<author>PinchDuck</author>
	<datestamp>1243526220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously, it's a good business decision to support the largest OS provider in the world. It may actually be unnecessary because they are so dominant, but who cares. Many companies have dabbled with pre-installed Linux, but the niche players seem to be doing the best. I bought a Lenovo with SUSE on it just to make sure that I wouldn't have to deal with driver issues. I understand that Lenovo no longer offers Linux preinstalled. Good for them, my next PC purchase won't be from them. I don't take it as a personal insult, however, as I realize that I am an outlier in a commodity market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously , it 's a good business decision to support the largest OS provider in the world .
It may actually be unnecessary because they are so dominant , but who cares .
Many companies have dabbled with pre-installed Linux , but the niche players seem to be doing the best .
I bought a Lenovo with SUSE on it just to make sure that I would n't have to deal with driver issues .
I understand that Lenovo no longer offers Linux preinstalled .
Good for them , my next PC purchase wo n't be from them .
I do n't take it as a personal insult , however , as I realize that I am an outlier in a commodity market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously, it's a good business decision to support the largest OS provider in the world.
It may actually be unnecessary because they are so dominant, but who cares.
Many companies have dabbled with pre-installed Linux, but the niche players seem to be doing the best.
I bought a Lenovo with SUSE on it just to make sure that I wouldn't have to deal with driver issues.
I understand that Lenovo no longer offers Linux preinstalled.
Good for them, my next PC purchase won't be from them.
I don't take it as a personal insult, however, as I realize that I am an outlier in a commodity market.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122483</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>etwills</author>
	<datestamp>1243519980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>It <strong>is</strong> better with Windows</em> </p><p>No, no: <strong>IT</strong>'s better with Windows</p><p>...whereas CS is better with Linux</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is better with Windows No , no : IT 's better with Windows...whereas CS is better with Linux</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It is better with Windows No, no: IT's better with Windows...whereas CS is better with Linux</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121999</id>
	<title>Re:There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243517220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd say Linux <b>was</b> a success here: it allowed Asus to market very low-cost netbooks, creating a new market in the process. Computers (and cars) have a tendency to bulk up, so when faced with competition in a situation where specs were no longer a limiting factor, familiarity to the average user became a more pressing need than the lowest possible price - therefore Windows is a more relevant choice of OS. I think the logic is that it's easier for those who want Linux to install it themselves over Windows than for those who want Windows to install it over Linux.</p><p>Then again, technically it would be possible to include both configurations, and have the user pick one at first boot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say Linux was a success here : it allowed Asus to market very low-cost netbooks , creating a new market in the process .
Computers ( and cars ) have a tendency to bulk up , so when faced with competition in a situation where specs were no longer a limiting factor , familiarity to the average user became a more pressing need than the lowest possible price - therefore Windows is a more relevant choice of OS .
I think the logic is that it 's easier for those who want Linux to install it themselves over Windows than for those who want Windows to install it over Linux.Then again , technically it would be possible to include both configurations , and have the user pick one at first boot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say Linux was a success here: it allowed Asus to market very low-cost netbooks, creating a new market in the process.
Computers (and cars) have a tendency to bulk up, so when faced with competition in a situation where specs were no longer a limiting factor, familiarity to the average user became a more pressing need than the lowest possible price - therefore Windows is a more relevant choice of OS.
I think the logic is that it's easier for those who want Linux to install it themselves over Windows than for those who want Windows to install it over Linux.Then again, technically it would be possible to include both configurations, and have the user pick one at first boot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125007</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Ecuador</author>
	<datestamp>1243531200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow. I couldn't disagree more. I usually swear by openSuSE, but I could see from the first moment that ASUS had done an amazing job with the EEE. Granted, I had to activate the "advanced" mode to get full KDE and add the Debian repositories since I needed the machine for development on the go, plus the single user thing was a bit annoying, but it I was certainly not the target audience. I lent it to a friend of mine for her vacation - an average windows user - and she did not ask a single question during the 2-3 weeks she used it, she just said she loved the experience (mostly email, browsing, photos from the camera, IM, video-chat...). And as I said, for a developer it still only took a little tinkering to get the full "linux experience" I am used to.<br>And I don't know how you get the "it breaks with updates". I have installed hundreds of DEBIAN packages and updates and I still have not seen a problem. Not only that, but it is faster and handles wifi, USB devices &amp; flash cards better (and simpler) than almost any desktop installation I've come across.<br>Last week I also bought an MSI Wind with linux. Now THAT was a bad experience. I said I am an openSuSE user myself and the Wind with SuSE Enterprise 10 should be a familiar experience, but, boy, it is a complete disaster. Anyway, that's another story, it just made me appreciate the EEE even more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow .
I could n't disagree more .
I usually swear by openSuSE , but I could see from the first moment that ASUS had done an amazing job with the EEE .
Granted , I had to activate the " advanced " mode to get full KDE and add the Debian repositories since I needed the machine for development on the go , plus the single user thing was a bit annoying , but it I was certainly not the target audience .
I lent it to a friend of mine for her vacation - an average windows user - and she did not ask a single question during the 2-3 weeks she used it , she just said she loved the experience ( mostly email , browsing , photos from the camera , IM , video-chat... ) .
And as I said , for a developer it still only took a little tinkering to get the full " linux experience " I am used to.And I do n't know how you get the " it breaks with updates " .
I have installed hundreds of DEBIAN packages and updates and I still have not seen a problem .
Not only that , but it is faster and handles wifi , USB devices &amp; flash cards better ( and simpler ) than almost any desktop installation I 've come across.Last week I also bought an MSI Wind with linux .
Now THAT was a bad experience .
I said I am an openSuSE user myself and the Wind with SuSE Enterprise 10 should be a familiar experience , but , boy , it is a complete disaster .
Anyway , that 's another story , it just made me appreciate the EEE even more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow.
I couldn't disagree more.
I usually swear by openSuSE, but I could see from the first moment that ASUS had done an amazing job with the EEE.
Granted, I had to activate the "advanced" mode to get full KDE and add the Debian repositories since I needed the machine for development on the go, plus the single user thing was a bit annoying, but it I was certainly not the target audience.
I lent it to a friend of mine for her vacation - an average windows user - and she did not ask a single question during the 2-3 weeks she used it, she just said she loved the experience (mostly email, browsing, photos from the camera, IM, video-chat...).
And as I said, for a developer it still only took a little tinkering to get the full "linux experience" I am used to.And I don't know how you get the "it breaks with updates".
I have installed hundreds of DEBIAN packages and updates and I still have not seen a problem.
Not only that, but it is faster and handles wifi, USB devices &amp; flash cards better (and simpler) than almost any desktop installation I've come across.Last week I also bought an MSI Wind with linux.
Now THAT was a bad experience.
I said I am an openSuSE user myself and the Wind with SuSE Enterprise 10 should be a familiar experience, but, boy, it is a complete disaster.
Anyway, that's another story, it just made me appreciate the EEE even more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124715</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>dpilot</author>
	<datestamp>1243529820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows and Linux?</p><p>Maybe *we* can, but from everything I've ever seen, Microsoft can't.  There was an old adage that Bill Gates once foresaw a world with, "a computer on every desk, running Microsoft software."  When that adage was delivered, they suggested that Gates had omitted the extra clause, "and ONLY Microsoft software."  Most companies recognize that marketplaces are vibrant, with many players, and that winning 100\% is only an amusing theoretical goal, never realizable.  Microsoft doesn't work that way - they are really and practically after 100\% of any market they play in, absolute dominance.  An ecosystem is encouraged around them, but THEIR markets are THEIR markets and competition is not well tolerated.  There is a squeak of an exception, in that enough competition is tolerated and even encouraged in order to keep the antitrust folks at bay.  But Apple is good enough for that, and Linux is much more threatening to Microsoft's basic business model.</p><p>I'd be happy to live and let live, I just don't feel safe with my preferences when I know Microsoft is there, and wants to be my One and Only True Choice.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Ca n't we all realise that there 's a market for both Windows and Linux ? Maybe * we * can , but from everything I 've ever seen , Microsoft ca n't .
There was an old adage that Bill Gates once foresaw a world with , " a computer on every desk , running Microsoft software .
" When that adage was delivered , they suggested that Gates had omitted the extra clause , " and ONLY Microsoft software .
" Most companies recognize that marketplaces are vibrant , with many players , and that winning 100 \ % is only an amusing theoretical goal , never realizable .
Microsoft does n't work that way - they are really and practically after 100 \ % of any market they play in , absolute dominance .
An ecosystem is encouraged around them , but THEIR markets are THEIR markets and competition is not well tolerated .
There is a squeak of an exception , in that enough competition is tolerated and even encouraged in order to keep the antitrust folks at bay .
But Apple is good enough for that , and Linux is much more threatening to Microsoft 's basic business model.I 'd be happy to live and let live , I just do n't feel safe with my preferences when I know Microsoft is there , and wants to be my One and Only True Choice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Can't we all realise that there's a market for both Windows and Linux?Maybe *we* can, but from everything I've ever seen, Microsoft can't.
There was an old adage that Bill Gates once foresaw a world with, "a computer on every desk, running Microsoft software.
"  When that adage was delivered, they suggested that Gates had omitted the extra clause, "and ONLY Microsoft software.
"  Most companies recognize that marketplaces are vibrant, with many players, and that winning 100\% is only an amusing theoretical goal, never realizable.
Microsoft doesn't work that way - they are really and practically after 100\% of any market they play in, absolute dominance.
An ecosystem is encouraged around them, but THEIR markets are THEIR markets and competition is not well tolerated.
There is a squeak of an exception, in that enough competition is tolerated and even encouraged in order to keep the antitrust folks at bay.
But Apple is good enough for that, and Linux is much more threatening to Microsoft's basic business model.I'd be happy to live and let live, I just don't feel safe with my preferences when I know Microsoft is there, and wants to be my One and Only True Choice.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28126213</id>
	<title>Debunking Microsofts latest</title>
	<author>V!NCENT</author>
	<datestamp>1243535820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can it be more anti-Microsoft than this? Let's go through the video, shall we?</p><p>1) Why is the mother laughing at the Windows boot screen? Is it booting 10x longer than her previous Ubuntu 9.04 install? I don't have  a clue...</p><p>2) Why is she closing the lid after having done absolutely nothing with the EeePC? Tired of waiting for it to boot? Isn't Windows productive, or just plane useless? You tell me...</p><p>3) The people in this 'commercial' are supposed to be representative Windows users. Now what mother gives her kids their laptops to s</p><p>chool but forgets to give them <b>bread/sandwiches and drinks?!</b>

</p><p>4) After school, presumably, the kids go to the beach to make photos with a mobile phone. Now why on earth would hey do that? Isn't there a 1,3 megapixel (can't be better than that ancient phone) webcam on the EeePC? Doesn't Windows have photo capturing software? Ubuntu/Linux -&gt; Cheese for Gnome. So Windows lacks software. Wow how bad can advertising be? But it doesn't stop there;</p><p>5) The kids need to usb-cable-transfer the picture from the phone to the EeePC while there is a cardreader slot. Except for plane stupidity on behalf of Windows users, doesn't the commercial say Windows redefines mobility/Wireless? Strange... Why don't they do it via bluetooth file transfer? Or isn't that supported in Windows either? Talking about compatibility with devices here... (that accounts for bith the phone and the bluetooth dongle.</p><p>6) After transfering the picture (mobility equals taking cables with you?) to the EeePC they can use some Live app to cut the picture. Wow! Totally can't do that with Gimp! Try to red eye correct that picture on Windows, morons. And no, Photoshop is not a part of Windows and no it doesn't run on a EeePC, but Gimp does.</p><p>7) The Business guy is spilling coffe over himself. Is Windows targetted for idiots? Nice move Microsoft marketing dicks...</p><p>8) After that incident he can share it with Live Messenger. Wow! Webcamming is the killer feature for Live Messenger? Except for the fact that it aint, the Windows marketing dicks suck balls.</p><p>9) Then the representative Windows user also like to laugh at himself for spilling coffee all over himself and enjoyes being lauched out loud by the people who he's webcamming with. Windows is targetted for loser? FAIL!</p><p>10) Redefining mobility? Like what the hell? Given the fact that this is a commercial for <b>not</b> using Linux and instead using Windows, what kind of redefining is going on here? Ubuntu 9.04 works completely out of the box with the EeePC (I am typing from one) and Windows sucks at connecting to wireless. Speed eh? NOT! Ubuntu 9.04 remembers you connections and auto-connects to one, and when you lost connection (because you're on the go) you can just click on the wireless icon in the system tray and click on a network from a dropdown list and you're finnished before you can say "right-click". No fscking around with settings and no BS.</p><p>11) Microsoft works... yeah... OpenOffice 3.1 'nuff said... Don't even try running the latest Office 2007 with that ribbon crap (fills the entire screen)</p><p>Ok so that pretty much nailes it: "Are you a loser, bad mom and/or plane stupid? Do you want a sucking EeePC experience? Install Windows XP with Live and Works!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can it be more anti-Microsoft than this ?
Let 's go through the video , shall we ? 1 ) Why is the mother laughing at the Windows boot screen ?
Is it booting 10x longer than her previous Ubuntu 9.04 install ?
I do n't have a clue...2 ) Why is she closing the lid after having done absolutely nothing with the EeePC ?
Tired of waiting for it to boot ?
Is n't Windows productive , or just plane useless ?
You tell me...3 ) The people in this 'commercial ' are supposed to be representative Windows users .
Now what mother gives her kids their laptops to school but forgets to give them bread/sandwiches and drinks ? !
4 ) After school , presumably , the kids go to the beach to make photos with a mobile phone .
Now why on earth would hey do that ?
Is n't there a 1,3 megapixel ( ca n't be better than that ancient phone ) webcam on the EeePC ?
Does n't Windows have photo capturing software ?
Ubuntu/Linux - &gt; Cheese for Gnome .
So Windows lacks software .
Wow how bad can advertising be ?
But it does n't stop there ; 5 ) The kids need to usb-cable-transfer the picture from the phone to the EeePC while there is a cardreader slot .
Except for plane stupidity on behalf of Windows users , does n't the commercial say Windows redefines mobility/Wireless ?
Strange... Why do n't they do it via bluetooth file transfer ?
Or is n't that supported in Windows either ?
Talking about compatibility with devices here... ( that accounts for bith the phone and the bluetooth dongle.6 ) After transfering the picture ( mobility equals taking cables with you ?
) to the EeePC they can use some Live app to cut the picture .
Wow ! Totally ca n't do that with Gimp !
Try to red eye correct that picture on Windows , morons .
And no , Photoshop is not a part of Windows and no it does n't run on a EeePC , but Gimp does.7 ) The Business guy is spilling coffe over himself .
Is Windows targetted for idiots ?
Nice move Microsoft marketing dicks...8 ) After that incident he can share it with Live Messenger .
Wow ! Webcamming is the killer feature for Live Messenger ?
Except for the fact that it aint , the Windows marketing dicks suck balls.9 ) Then the representative Windows user also like to laugh at himself for spilling coffee all over himself and enjoyes being lauched out loud by the people who he 's webcamming with .
Windows is targetted for loser ?
FAIL ! 10 ) Redefining mobility ?
Like what the hell ?
Given the fact that this is a commercial for not using Linux and instead using Windows , what kind of redefining is going on here ?
Ubuntu 9.04 works completely out of the box with the EeePC ( I am typing from one ) and Windows sucks at connecting to wireless .
Speed eh ?
NOT ! Ubuntu 9.04 remembers you connections and auto-connects to one , and when you lost connection ( because you 're on the go ) you can just click on the wireless icon in the system tray and click on a network from a dropdown list and you 're finnished before you can say " right-click " .
No fscking around with settings and no BS.11 ) Microsoft works... yeah... OpenOffice 3.1 'nuff said... Do n't even try running the latest Office 2007 with that ribbon crap ( fills the entire screen ) Ok so that pretty much nailes it : " Are you a loser , bad mom and/or plane stupid ?
Do you want a sucking EeePC experience ?
Install Windows XP with Live and Works !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can it be more anti-Microsoft than this?
Let's go through the video, shall we?1) Why is the mother laughing at the Windows boot screen?
Is it booting 10x longer than her previous Ubuntu 9.04 install?
I don't have  a clue...2) Why is she closing the lid after having done absolutely nothing with the EeePC?
Tired of waiting for it to boot?
Isn't Windows productive, or just plane useless?
You tell me...3) The people in this 'commercial' are supposed to be representative Windows users.
Now what mother gives her kids their laptops to school but forgets to give them bread/sandwiches and drinks?!
4) After school, presumably, the kids go to the beach to make photos with a mobile phone.
Now why on earth would hey do that?
Isn't there a 1,3 megapixel (can't be better than that ancient phone) webcam on the EeePC?
Doesn't Windows have photo capturing software?
Ubuntu/Linux -&gt; Cheese for Gnome.
So Windows lacks software.
Wow how bad can advertising be?
But it doesn't stop there;5) The kids need to usb-cable-transfer the picture from the phone to the EeePC while there is a cardreader slot.
Except for plane stupidity on behalf of Windows users, doesn't the commercial say Windows redefines mobility/Wireless?
Strange... Why don't they do it via bluetooth file transfer?
Or isn't that supported in Windows either?
Talking about compatibility with devices here... (that accounts for bith the phone and the bluetooth dongle.6) After transfering the picture (mobility equals taking cables with you?
) to the EeePC they can use some Live app to cut the picture.
Wow! Totally can't do that with Gimp!
Try to red eye correct that picture on Windows, morons.
And no, Photoshop is not a part of Windows and no it doesn't run on a EeePC, but Gimp does.7) The Business guy is spilling coffe over himself.
Is Windows targetted for idiots?
Nice move Microsoft marketing dicks...8) After that incident he can share it with Live Messenger.
Wow! Webcamming is the killer feature for Live Messenger?
Except for the fact that it aint, the Windows marketing dicks suck balls.9) Then the representative Windows user also like to laugh at himself for spilling coffee all over himself and enjoyes being lauched out loud by the people who he's webcamming with.
Windows is targetted for loser?
FAIL!10) Redefining mobility?
Like what the hell?
Given the fact that this is a commercial for not using Linux and instead using Windows, what kind of redefining is going on here?
Ubuntu 9.04 works completely out of the box with the EeePC (I am typing from one) and Windows sucks at connecting to wireless.
Speed eh?
NOT! Ubuntu 9.04 remembers you connections and auto-connects to one, and when you lost connection (because you're on the go) you can just click on the wireless icon in the system tray and click on a network from a dropdown list and you're finnished before you can say "right-click".
No fscking around with settings and no BS.11) Microsoft works... yeah... OpenOffice 3.1 'nuff said... Don't even try running the latest Office 2007 with that ribbon crap (fills the entire screen)Ok so that pretty much nailes it: "Are you a loser, bad mom and/or plane stupid?
Do you want a sucking EeePC experience?
Install Windows XP with Live and Works!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125107</id>
	<title>Asus and M$ recommend IE6??</title>
	<author>nickruiz</author>
	<datestamp>1243531680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I just love how at 3:27 in the video, they advertise "Family Safety" while displaying the family safety controls website in an <b>IE6 BROWSER!!</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just love how at 3 : 27 in the video , they advertise " Family Safety " while displaying the family safety controls website in an IE6 BROWSER !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just love how at 3:27 in the video, they advertise "Family Safety" while displaying the family safety controls website in an IE6 BROWSER!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122367</id>
	<title>Mother</title>
	<author>zakeria</author>
	<datestamp>1243519320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fcuker</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fcuker</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fcuker</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121803</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>mokus000</author>
	<datestamp>1243516140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do we know Asus and Microsoft, were both involved, other than the article's assertion?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do we know Asus and Microsoft , were both involved , other than the article 's assertion ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do we know Asus and Microsoft, were both involved, other than the article's assertion?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122649</id>
	<title>Re:There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>RiotXIX</author>
	<datestamp>1243520700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><i>Linux is a concept. It's a theory. It's a dream. That's what makes it so powerful.</i></p><p>And it's also what makes it so frustrating for anyone who wants to see it succeed. What is success for an Open Source project? A child learning to walk takes the first step and the parents celebrate the moment, but what is that first step if nothing more than the first of countless more steps? </p></div><p>Linux is my dream.</p><p>People \_need\_ to be converted, and as the enlightened we have a duty to guide them. Microsoft is funded by money, by greed, by sin.</p><p>Think of the workers - that same child learning to walk. Where will he walk to if he wants be be a software developer? To high school, to advanced mathematics, to University, bleeding his parents dry, and then to Borders to by MSCE documents so he can work for Microsoft. His parents may have cried with happiness when he first learned, but by now they'll be wishing they never taught him.</p><p>Now think of the Linux developer. Most Linux developers can't walk. Why? Because they don't need to. They didn't waste their time in the computer labs at high shool - they were hammering chicks all day and night. Do you see them picking up MSCE qualifactions at a great cost? No? Because they can spend that money on chicks. It's not a theory or dream with Linux, it's real life. It's no skin our backs, neither is it skin off our dicks (or theirs). We must make this our goal.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux is a concept .
It 's a theory .
It 's a dream .
That 's what makes it so powerful.And it 's also what makes it so frustrating for anyone who wants to see it succeed .
What is success for an Open Source project ?
A child learning to walk takes the first step and the parents celebrate the moment , but what is that first step if nothing more than the first of countless more steps ?
Linux is my dream.People \ _need \ _ to be converted , and as the enlightened we have a duty to guide them .
Microsoft is funded by money , by greed , by sin.Think of the workers - that same child learning to walk .
Where will he walk to if he wants be be a software developer ?
To high school , to advanced mathematics , to University , bleeding his parents dry , and then to Borders to by MSCE documents so he can work for Microsoft .
His parents may have cried with happiness when he first learned , but by now they 'll be wishing they never taught him.Now think of the Linux developer .
Most Linux developers ca n't walk .
Why ? Because they do n't need to .
They did n't waste their time in the computer labs at high shool - they were hammering chicks all day and night .
Do you see them picking up MSCE qualifactions at a great cost ?
No ? Because they can spend that money on chicks .
It 's not a theory or dream with Linux , it 's real life .
It 's no skin our backs , neither is it skin off our dicks ( or theirs ) .
We must make this our goal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux is a concept.
It's a theory.
It's a dream.
That's what makes it so powerful.And it's also what makes it so frustrating for anyone who wants to see it succeed.
What is success for an Open Source project?
A child learning to walk takes the first step and the parents celebrate the moment, but what is that first step if nothing more than the first of countless more steps?
Linux is my dream.People \_need\_ to be converted, and as the enlightened we have a duty to guide them.
Microsoft is funded by money, by greed, by sin.Think of the workers - that same child learning to walk.
Where will he walk to if he wants be be a software developer?
To high school, to advanced mathematics, to University, bleeding his parents dry, and then to Borders to by MSCE documents so he can work for Microsoft.
His parents may have cried with happiness when he first learned, but by now they'll be wishing they never taught him.Now think of the Linux developer.
Most Linux developers can't walk.
Why? Because they don't need to.
They didn't waste their time in the computer labs at high shool - they were hammering chicks all day and night.
Do you see them picking up MSCE qualifactions at a great cost?
No? Because they can spend that money on chicks.
It's not a theory or dream with Linux, it's real life.
It's no skin our backs, neither is it skin off our dicks (or theirs).
We must make this our goal.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121755</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122887</id>
	<title>Hoax, Brought to you by-</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243521960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/itsbetterwithwindows.com" title="networksolutions.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/itsbetterwithwindows.com</a> [networksolutions.com] <p><div class="quote"><p>Administrative Contact:
      Sharp, Michael  rdcpro@hotmail.com
      12932 SE Kent-Kangley Rd.
      Box 238
      Kent, Washington 98030
      United States
      (877) 788-8066</p></div><p>Because, that was difficult...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/itsbetterwithwindows.com [ networksolutions.com ] Administrative Contact : Sharp , Michael rdcpro @ hotmail.com 12932 SE Kent-Kangley Rd .
Box 238 Kent , Washington 98030 United States ( 877 ) 788-8066Because , that was difficult.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/itsbetterwithwindows.com [networksolutions.com] Administrative Contact:
      Sharp, Michael  rdcpro@hotmail.com
      12932 SE Kent-Kangley Rd.
Box 238
      Kent, Washington 98030
      United States
      (877) 788-8066Because, that was difficult...
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121827</id>
	<title>Why bother?</title>
	<author>hansraj</author>
	<datestamp>1243516200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Despite my desire to see Linux being the most popular OS, I fail to see why it should be so worrying to see that MS keeps using what seem to be underhanded deals to keep Linux away from the market. After all, it is not like Linux hasn't been making great progress in spite of a small userbase. Things have come a long way since I started using it around the beginning of the century; I don't have to fiddle with my machine everytime I want to try a new distro; all major distros look quite polished and mature, etc.</p><p>Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise to not have "familiarity" as the most important feature of the OS for Linux. Developers can decide to go with the completely radical way of doing thing (Sure it does not happen that often, but with a larger userbase even the possibility would become a challenge).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Despite my desire to see Linux being the most popular OS , I fail to see why it should be so worrying to see that MS keeps using what seem to be underhanded deals to keep Linux away from the market .
After all , it is not like Linux has n't been making great progress in spite of a small userbase .
Things have come a long way since I started using it around the beginning of the century ; I do n't have to fiddle with my machine everytime I want to try a new distro ; all major distros look quite polished and mature , etc.Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise to not have " familiarity " as the most important feature of the OS for Linux .
Developers can decide to go with the completely radical way of doing thing ( Sure it does not happen that often , but with a larger userbase even the possibility would become a challenge ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Despite my desire to see Linux being the most popular OS, I fail to see why it should be so worrying to see that MS keeps using what seem to be underhanded deals to keep Linux away from the market.
After all, it is not like Linux hasn't been making great progress in spite of a small userbase.
Things have come a long way since I started using it around the beginning of the century; I don't have to fiddle with my machine everytime I want to try a new distro; all major distros look quite polished and mature, etc.Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise to not have "familiarity" as the most important feature of the OS for Linux.
Developers can decide to go with the completely radical way of doing thing (Sure it does not happen that often, but with a larger userbase even the possibility would become a challenge).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28135711</id>
	<title>Re:Calm down, the campaing is a fake.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243629060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its not fake you chimp, asus links to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not fake you chimp , asus links to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not fake you chimp, asus links to it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122763</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121793</id>
	<title>Now I'm definitely going to buy one!</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1243516020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just so that I can cost the bastards some money by demanding a <a href="http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/59381" title="linux.com">Windows Refund</a> [linux.com] on it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just so that I can cost the bastards some money by demanding a Windows Refund [ linux.com ] on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just so that I can cost the bastards some money by demanding a Windows Refund [linux.com] on it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28130953</id>
	<title>Slashdotted Experiment Perhaps?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243508460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps this was an experiment in "slashdotting" - to test how much traffic can be driven by a bogus slashdot article pointing to a bogus website.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps this was an experiment in " slashdotting " - to test how much traffic can be driven by a bogus slashdot article pointing to a bogus website .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps this was an experiment in "slashdotting" - to test how much traffic can be driven by a bogus slashdot article pointing to a bogus website.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123969</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>hughk</author>
	<datestamp>1243526940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>Absolutely</em> and it runs <em>Internet Explorer</em>, the world's <em>most compatible web browser</em> running everything thrown at it and supporting important standards like <em>Active-X</em>.</p><p>.

</p><p>/Meant in the same spirit as Spambot 0wner....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Absolutely and it runs Internet Explorer , the world 's most compatible web browser running everything thrown at it and supporting important standards like Active-X. . /Meant in the same spirit as Spambot 0wner... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Absolutely and it runs Internet Explorer, the world's most compatible web browser running everything thrown at it and supporting important standards like Active-X..

/Meant in the same spirit as Spambot 0wner....</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121929</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28126709</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243537440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.<br>And you will vote by your own moneys for Microsoft vs others. It is MS who will receive your moneys. It is Linux vendors who will lose. Come on, let's MS to pwn the world...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I 'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.And you will vote by your own moneys for Microsoft vs others .
It is MS who will receive your moneys .
It is Linux vendors who will lose .
Come on , let 's MS to pwn the world.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.And you will vote by your own moneys for Microsoft vs others.
It is MS who will receive your moneys.
It is Linux vendors who will lose.
Come on, let's MS to pwn the world...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122031</id>
	<title>Re:There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>jbolden</author>
	<datestamp>1243517400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GCC doesn't have anybody behind it either.  It is now, I think most would admit the #2 compiler after the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET compiler.</p><p>Apache had a group about the same size and it is arguably in first place.</p><p>Linux is clearly successful in the server and embedded markets.</p><p>Success means at the very least that desktop purchasers see it as an option and actively decide for or against it in a meaningful way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GCC does n't have anybody behind it either .
It is now , I think most would admit the # 2 compiler after the .NET compiler.Apache had a group about the same size and it is arguably in first place.Linux is clearly successful in the server and embedded markets.Success means at the very least that desktop purchasers see it as an option and actively decide for or against it in a meaningful way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GCC doesn't have anybody behind it either.
It is now, I think most would admit the #2 compiler after the .NET compiler.Apache had a group about the same size and it is arguably in first place.Linux is clearly successful in the server and embedded markets.Success means at the very least that desktop purchasers see it as an option and actively decide for or against it in a meaningful way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121755</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28128365</id>
	<title>They may regret that later on</title>
	<author>Dega704</author>
	<datestamp>1243542060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Odd that it took this long for this to get posted.  I first happened upon that propaganda over a month ago when I was looking at an eee pc ad on newegg that linked to it(which either makes it real or one of the biggest trolls ever).  The hilarious part is if you were to add "XP" to every instance of "Windows" it would make a pretty convincing anti-vista ad.  When I think it over though, I could care less about Asus ditching linux on netbooks, considering the version that came with the eee pc was lousy IMHO.  I'm surprised they would risk pissing off the linux fans, though, considering they make up a pretty big chunk of their customer base.

When I first got into linux I swore I would never become another anti-M$ zealot, but I start to see why there are so many.  The way they smear my choice of OS and pull strings to make sure I have a pain of a time using anything but their product is a real thorn in my side.  I just hope that with decent distros like moblin and ubuntu netbook remix it will make big enough comeback to make asus smack their foreheads and say "DOH!".</htmltext>
<tokenext>Odd that it took this long for this to get posted .
I first happened upon that propaganda over a month ago when I was looking at an eee pc ad on newegg that linked to it ( which either makes it real or one of the biggest trolls ever ) .
The hilarious part is if you were to add " XP " to every instance of " Windows " it would make a pretty convincing anti-vista ad .
When I think it over though , I could care less about Asus ditching linux on netbooks , considering the version that came with the eee pc was lousy IMHO .
I 'm surprised they would risk pissing off the linux fans , though , considering they make up a pretty big chunk of their customer base .
When I first got into linux I swore I would never become another anti-M $ zealot , but I start to see why there are so many .
The way they smear my choice of OS and pull strings to make sure I have a pain of a time using anything but their product is a real thorn in my side .
I just hope that with decent distros like moblin and ubuntu netbook remix it will make big enough comeback to make asus smack their foreheads and say " DOH !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Odd that it took this long for this to get posted.
I first happened upon that propaganda over a month ago when I was looking at an eee pc ad on newegg that linked to it(which either makes it real or one of the biggest trolls ever).
The hilarious part is if you were to add "XP" to every instance of "Windows" it would make a pretty convincing anti-vista ad.
When I think it over though, I could care less about Asus ditching linux on netbooks, considering the version that came with the eee pc was lousy IMHO.
I'm surprised they would risk pissing off the linux fans, though, considering they make up a pretty big chunk of their customer base.
When I first got into linux I swore I would never become another anti-M$ zealot, but I start to see why there are so many.
The way they smear my choice of OS and pull strings to make sure I have a pain of a time using anything but their product is a real thorn in my side.
I just hope that with decent distros like moblin and ubuntu netbook remix it will make big enough comeback to make asus smack their foreheads and say "DOH!
".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123387</id>
	<title>Going Live Now To Our Stupid Questions Unit...</title>
	<author>NickFortune</author>
	<datestamp>1243524120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If Asus and Torvalds had put up a site to help people put Linux on Windows machines, would it be as Evil?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
To answer that, we take you now, by the magic of the internet, to One Microsoft Way where we can put that question direct to Steve Ballmer.
</p><p>
Steve, hypothetically suppose that ASUS linked to a site both critical of Windows and,
which encouraged Asus customers to purchase the Linux version of the Eee in preference to Windows.
It's been suggested this may be a morally grey area. Perhaps you can give us the Microsoft
perspective on this issue? How would you feel, Steve?
</p><p>
<i>Sounds of flying chairs. Distant screams. One voice, clearly pleading, says "no no, please, not again..."</i>
</p><p>
I'm sorry, it seems we've arrived at a bad time for Mr. Ballmer. Moving on, we have another pointless question from the audience: What if Richard Stallman was the secret reincarnation of Adolf Hitler...
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If Asus and Torvalds had put up a site to help people put Linux on Windows machines , would it be as Evil ?
To answer that , we take you now , by the magic of the internet , to One Microsoft Way where we can put that question direct to Steve Ballmer .
Steve , hypothetically suppose that ASUS linked to a site both critical of Windows and , which encouraged Asus customers to purchase the Linux version of the Eee in preference to Windows .
It 's been suggested this may be a morally grey area .
Perhaps you can give us the Microsoft perspective on this issue ?
How would you feel , Steve ?
Sounds of flying chairs .
Distant screams .
One voice , clearly pleading , says " no no , please , not again... " I 'm sorry , it seems we 've arrived at a bad time for Mr. Ballmer. Moving on , we have another pointless question from the audience : What if Richard Stallman was the secret reincarnation of Adolf Hitler.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Asus and Torvalds had put up a site to help people put Linux on Windows machines, would it be as Evil?
To answer that, we take you now, by the magic of the internet, to One Microsoft Way where we can put that question direct to Steve Ballmer.
Steve, hypothetically suppose that ASUS linked to a site both critical of Windows and,
which encouraged Asus customers to purchase the Linux version of the Eee in preference to Windows.
It's been suggested this may be a morally grey area.
Perhaps you can give us the Microsoft
perspective on this issue?
How would you feel, Steve?
Sounds of flying chairs.
Distant screams.
One voice, clearly pleading, says "no no, please, not again..."

I'm sorry, it seems we've arrived at a bad time for Mr. Ballmer. Moving on, we have another pointless question from the audience: What if Richard Stallman was the secret reincarnation of Adolf Hitler...

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122409</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28126937</id>
	<title>I wonder what really happened</title>
	<author>rs232</author>
	<datestamp>1243538100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>They must really really needed for the ASUS Linux experiment to fail. I just wonder what really went on behind closed doors, and what it cost MS in monetary value to squelch the deal.<br> <br>

"<i>In order to compete more effectively against Linux and other providers on these deals, we can now leverage the Education and Government Incentive [<a href="http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/8000/PX08562.pdf" title="slated.org">EDGI</a> [slated.org]] program to help tip the scales to MS in the deal. After engaging the regional team. the region may use funds to provide services and/or rebates to the customer with the following limitation</i>:<br> <br>

"<i>Not to exceed the estimated Windows royalties recognized by MS from the OEM selling the PC's to the customer (in the example, 50,000 PC's at approx. $100/PC for OEM Windows XP Professional would result in a maximum of $5M for the individual deal)</i>"<br> <br>

<i>It is essential, therefore, that we use this in only in deals we would lose otherwise</i> <br> <br>

"<i>Bottom line do our best to show the great value of our software to these customers and ensure we get paid for it <strong>under NO circumstances lose against Linux</strong> before ensuring we have used this program actively and in a smart way</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>They must really really needed for the ASUS Linux experiment to fail .
I just wonder what really went on behind closed doors , and what it cost MS in monetary value to squelch the deal .
" In order to compete more effectively against Linux and other providers on these deals , we can now leverage the Education and Government Incentive [ EDGI [ slated.org ] ] program to help tip the scales to MS in the deal .
After engaging the regional team .
the region may use funds to provide services and/or rebates to the customer with the following limitation : " Not to exceed the estimated Windows royalties recognized by MS from the OEM selling the PC 's to the customer ( in the example , 50,000 PC 's at approx .
$ 100/PC for OEM Windows XP Professional would result in a maximum of $ 5M for the individual deal ) " It is essential , therefore , that we use this in only in deals we would lose otherwise " Bottom line do our best to show the great value of our software to these customers and ensure we get paid for it under NO circumstances lose against Linux before ensuring we have used this program actively and in a smart way</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They must really really needed for the ASUS Linux experiment to fail.
I just wonder what really went on behind closed doors, and what it cost MS in monetary value to squelch the deal.
"In order to compete more effectively against Linux and other providers on these deals, we can now leverage the Education and Government Incentive [EDGI [slated.org]] program to help tip the scales to MS in the deal.
After engaging the regional team.
the region may use funds to provide services and/or rebates to the customer with the following limitation: 

"Not to exceed the estimated Windows royalties recognized by MS from the OEM selling the PC's to the customer (in the example, 50,000 PC's at approx.
$100/PC for OEM Windows XP Professional would result in a maximum of $5M for the individual deal)" 

It is essential, therefore, that we use this in only in deals we would lose otherwise  

"Bottom line do our best to show the great value of our software to these customers and ensure we get paid for it under NO circumstances lose against Linux before ensuring we have used this program actively and in a smart way</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122055</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Linux fans,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243517580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...stop being such whiny cunts.</p><p>Love,<br>That percentage of the world that doesn't want to have to compile an OS and install a virtual box just to fucking play Half-Life.</p></div><p>Dear Microsoft employee<br>Please build an OS that does not suck.</p><p>Love<br>The percentage of the population that did not get infected with Conficker.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...stop being such whiny cunts.Love,That percentage of the world that does n't want to have to compile an OS and install a virtual box just to fucking play Half-Life.Dear Microsoft employeePlease build an OS that does not suck.LoveThe percentage of the population that did not get infected with Conficker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...stop being such whiny cunts.Love,That percentage of the world that doesn't want to have to compile an OS and install a virtual box just to fucking play Half-Life.Dear Microsoft employeePlease build an OS that does not suck.LoveThe percentage of the population that did not get infected with Conficker.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123771</id>
	<title>Their warranty is probably void</title>
	<author>kondziu</author>
	<datestamp>1243526040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are at least two things on that flick which you should never do, according to the manuals they ship with their eee pcs: never put the thing on your laps or on a soft surface (i.e. the bed). I don't have the warranty with me, so I can't say for sure, but I seem to remember the latter even made your warranty void or something.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are at least two things on that flick which you should never do , according to the manuals they ship with their eee pcs : never put the thing on your laps or on a soft surface ( i.e .
the bed ) .
I do n't have the warranty with me , so I ca n't say for sure , but I seem to remember the latter even made your warranty void or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are at least two things on that flick which you should never do, according to the manuals they ship with their eee pcs: never put the thing on your laps or on a soft surface (i.e.
the bed).
I don't have the warranty with me, so I can't say for sure, but I seem to remember the latter even made your warranty void or something.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122821</id>
	<title>Re:Asus screwed up</title>
	<author>DoofusOfDeath</author>
	<datestamp>1243521600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>At that point, he brought his Asus over and I installed eeebuntu. It has been a love affair ever since.</p></div></blockquote><p>Er... excuse me, I need to go install eeebuntu for that hot chick next door.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At that point , he brought his Asus over and I installed eeebuntu .
It has been a love affair ever since.Er... excuse me , I need to go install eeebuntu for that hot chick next door .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At that point, he brought his Asus over and I installed eeebuntu.
It has been a love affair ever since.Er... excuse me, I need to go install eeebuntu for that hot chick next door.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121955</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121831</id>
	<title>calm down fanboy.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>ill probably see a trollmod for this, but what the hey. this article isnt really news at all, as corporations have been keen to align themselves with the market leader for centuries.  this is no different.<br> <br>

its still a computer <br>it still has an option to install an operating system <br>you can still order an ASUS with linux preinstalled<br> windows can be returned for a refund<br>there are market alternatives.<br> <br> and just because a corporation appears to align itself with your ideals and interests doesnt mean it likes you or said ideals...its just business.</htmltext>
<tokenext>ill probably see a trollmod for this , but what the hey .
this article isnt really news at all , as corporations have been keen to align themselves with the market leader for centuries .
this is no different .
its still a computer it still has an option to install an operating system you can still order an ASUS with linux preinstalled windows can be returned for a refundthere are market alternatives .
and just because a corporation appears to align itself with your ideals and interests doesnt mean it likes you or said ideals...its just business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ill probably see a trollmod for this, but what the hey.
this article isnt really news at all, as corporations have been keen to align themselves with the market leader for centuries.
this is no different.
its still a computer it still has an option to install an operating system you can still order an ASUS with linux preinstalled windows can be returned for a refundthere are market alternatives.
and just because a corporation appears to align itself with your ideals and interests doesnt mean it likes you or said ideals...its just business.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124787</id>
	<title>Simple economics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243530180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you really think Asus would have made a decision like this without a reason?</p><p>They likely have a really good reason for saying the Eee is "better with Windows"... and it's because the Eee is... well... better with Windows.</p><p>The common complaint, which EVERY vendor has stated, is that the return rate of computers sold with Linux are so high they can't make a profit on them.</p><p>Nobody wants Linux.  That's why even in countries without a legit software market, Linux can't gain market share.  People would rather STEAL Windows than legitimately get Linux for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you really think Asus would have made a decision like this without a reason ? They likely have a really good reason for saying the Eee is " better with Windows " ... and it 's because the Eee is... well... better with Windows.The common complaint , which EVERY vendor has stated , is that the return rate of computers sold with Linux are so high they ca n't make a profit on them.Nobody wants Linux .
That 's why even in countries without a legit software market , Linux ca n't gain market share .
People would rather STEAL Windows than legitimately get Linux for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you really think Asus would have made a decision like this without a reason?They likely have a really good reason for saying the Eee is "better with Windows"... and it's because the Eee is... well... better with Windows.The common complaint, which EVERY vendor has stated, is that the return rate of computers sold with Linux are so high they can't make a profit on them.Nobody wants Linux.
That's why even in countries without a legit software market, Linux can't gain market share.
People would rather STEAL Windows than legitimately get Linux for free.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124393</id>
	<title>One word: ReactOS</title>
	<author>Pharago</author>
	<datestamp>1243528560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it is starting to look very polished, ionescu et al are doing an awesome job, maybe to some of you it dosn't appeal too much, but from my perspective it might become a drop in replacement for windows, you know, the kind of replacement that you can actually offer to any middle bussiness thats been all its life tied and slaved to windows for one reason or another, unwillingly or not, full compatibility without any of their employees having to buy a couple of neurons to learn about a new os, keeping old data and programs at hand etc. after all asus is a bussiness like any other and ms has all the bucks in the world to buy it's way around, no doubt that if ms sees them as a threat at any moment, they will send some heat their way, just saying</htmltext>
<tokenext>it is starting to look very polished , ionescu et al are doing an awesome job , maybe to some of you it dos n't appeal too much , but from my perspective it might become a drop in replacement for windows , you know , the kind of replacement that you can actually offer to any middle bussiness thats been all its life tied and slaved to windows for one reason or another , unwillingly or not , full compatibility without any of their employees having to buy a couple of neurons to learn about a new os , keeping old data and programs at hand etc .
after all asus is a bussiness like any other and ms has all the bucks in the world to buy it 's way around , no doubt that if ms sees them as a threat at any moment , they will send some heat their way , just saying</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it is starting to look very polished, ionescu et al are doing an awesome job, maybe to some of you it dosn't appeal too much, but from my perspective it might become a drop in replacement for windows, you know, the kind of replacement that you can actually offer to any middle bussiness thats been all its life tied and slaved to windows for one reason or another, unwillingly or not, full compatibility without any of their employees having to buy a couple of neurons to learn about a new os, keeping old data and programs at hand etc.
after all asus is a bussiness like any other and ms has all the bucks in the world to buy it's way around, no doubt that if ms sees them as a threat at any moment, they will send some heat their way, just saying</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122939</id>
	<title>Re:worse than religion</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243522140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The religion slant works both ways.  There are far more MS than Linux "evangelists" out there, but the Linux people make up for their small numbers by speaking up a little more often.</p><p>The real problem is that once a person graduates past the level of "newbie", they rapidly assume a much higher level of experience than they actually possess.  As we all know, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.  "What I know is best because I know how to use it..."  We all tolerate the shortcomings of what we know how to use, while shouting loudly about it's advantages vs. the other alternatives.</p><p>I know a guy who became an MCSE.  He loudly touted the benefits of Windows while ignoring its shortcomings.  The downside of being a Windows fan is the amount of time spent on patching and rebooting and how little time a server will run by itself before it requires sysadmin intervention.  And then there is the desktop configuration issue, where they tend to drift away from "standard" with a stream of helpdesk support requests to fix all of the anomalies.</p><p>Mr. Windows had a great work ethic and he worked crazy hours to facilitate the care and feeding of the Windows empire.  But as soon as he turned his back, something would inevitably break.  One weekend, the Exchange server decided to quietly stop processing e-mail.  The senior executives were super-pissed because they were working that weekend on some kind of deal.  Monday morning arrives, and Mr. Windows is grilled for the downtime (that somehow escaped the network monitoring system).  This guy went so far as to try and creatively interpret the uptime data so that downtime was camouflaged.  Mr. Windows was not a happy camper; he honestly felt that his work ethic was a substitute for solid uptime.  I tried to explain that a total slacker could configure a non-MS e-mail system that would have better uptime with half the babysitting.</p><p>Mr. Windows still works in the same place and they have crappy uptime on their e-mail system.  He remains in denial to this day.  A more organized sysadmin might be able to mitigate some of the problems, but it's hard to look at Mr. Windows' experience and think that anyone could work so hard while receiving such grief.</p><p>Those of us who have worked in high-availability environments just don't understand how anyone tolerates the status quo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The religion slant works both ways .
There are far more MS than Linux " evangelists " out there , but the Linux people make up for their small numbers by speaking up a little more often.The real problem is that once a person graduates past the level of " newbie " , they rapidly assume a much higher level of experience than they actually possess .
As we all know , a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing .
" What I know is best because I know how to use it... " We all tolerate the shortcomings of what we know how to use , while shouting loudly about it 's advantages vs. the other alternatives.I know a guy who became an MCSE .
He loudly touted the benefits of Windows while ignoring its shortcomings .
The downside of being a Windows fan is the amount of time spent on patching and rebooting and how little time a server will run by itself before it requires sysadmin intervention .
And then there is the desktop configuration issue , where they tend to drift away from " standard " with a stream of helpdesk support requests to fix all of the anomalies.Mr .
Windows had a great work ethic and he worked crazy hours to facilitate the care and feeding of the Windows empire .
But as soon as he turned his back , something would inevitably break .
One weekend , the Exchange server decided to quietly stop processing e-mail .
The senior executives were super-pissed because they were working that weekend on some kind of deal .
Monday morning arrives , and Mr. Windows is grilled for the downtime ( that somehow escaped the network monitoring system ) .
This guy went so far as to try and creatively interpret the uptime data so that downtime was camouflaged .
Mr. Windows was not a happy camper ; he honestly felt that his work ethic was a substitute for solid uptime .
I tried to explain that a total slacker could configure a non-MS e-mail system that would have better uptime with half the babysitting.Mr .
Windows still works in the same place and they have crappy uptime on their e-mail system .
He remains in denial to this day .
A more organized sysadmin might be able to mitigate some of the problems , but it 's hard to look at Mr. Windows ' experience and think that anyone could work so hard while receiving such grief.Those of us who have worked in high-availability environments just do n't understand how anyone tolerates the status quo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The religion slant works both ways.
There are far more MS than Linux "evangelists" out there, but the Linux people make up for their small numbers by speaking up a little more often.The real problem is that once a person graduates past the level of "newbie", they rapidly assume a much higher level of experience than they actually possess.
As we all know, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
"What I know is best because I know how to use it..."  We all tolerate the shortcomings of what we know how to use, while shouting loudly about it's advantages vs. the other alternatives.I know a guy who became an MCSE.
He loudly touted the benefits of Windows while ignoring its shortcomings.
The downside of being a Windows fan is the amount of time spent on patching and rebooting and how little time a server will run by itself before it requires sysadmin intervention.
And then there is the desktop configuration issue, where they tend to drift away from "standard" with a stream of helpdesk support requests to fix all of the anomalies.Mr.
Windows had a great work ethic and he worked crazy hours to facilitate the care and feeding of the Windows empire.
But as soon as he turned his back, something would inevitably break.
One weekend, the Exchange server decided to quietly stop processing e-mail.
The senior executives were super-pissed because they were working that weekend on some kind of deal.
Monday morning arrives, and Mr. Windows is grilled for the downtime (that somehow escaped the network monitoring system).
This guy went so far as to try and creatively interpret the uptime data so that downtime was camouflaged.
Mr. Windows was not a happy camper; he honestly felt that his work ethic was a substitute for solid uptime.
I tried to explain that a total slacker could configure a non-MS e-mail system that would have better uptime with half the babysitting.Mr.
Windows still works in the same place and they have crappy uptime on their e-mail system.
He remains in denial to this day.
A more organized sysadmin might be able to mitigate some of the problems, but it's hard to look at Mr. Windows' experience and think that anyone could work so hard while receiving such grief.Those of us who have worked in high-availability environments just don't understand how anyone tolerates the status quo.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125067</id>
	<title>Eee PC regular user</title>
	<author>Ektanoor</author>
	<datestamp>1243531500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bought it with Windows pre-installed.</p><p>For two weeks my biggest fear was when this crap will finally fry the machine. And just for nothing. The launching of some pretty secondary programs was enough to see things going really hot, stupidly slow and disk stressing.</p><p>Oh. And I didn't mention that battery lasted for less than half an hour? That's pretty powerful when you are running on public transport and get a emergency call from the office.</p><p>Linux did not solve certain risks. However, it made them completely manageable. Besides, it gave several working scenarios. Pretty important if you are looking to be on batteries for a few hours.</p><p>So, I my opinion is that "unfamiliar environment" and "major compatibility issues' are advertinsing calls for  braindead jerks who really don't have a need for a netbook, except for some exciting glamour of dubious nature. No one likes to see a machine freezing in the middle of a serious issue. I had this with Windows twice in a week. And while on Windows, I had to think not only on my work but also on which next step I should not do or else the machine goes down.</p><p>On Linux, I had only one hangup in nearly a year and fortunately not related to a emergency. Just hanged up, I could not find a clear reason for it.</p><p>I'll keep using the Eee PC and probably buy a new one. They are the little powerhorses I've been waiting for long. But that "Better With Windows"... In a biomedical environment there are no "betters with". It works,,, Or it is pure crap.</p><p>Windows IS pure crap on my Eee PC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bought it with Windows pre-installed.For two weeks my biggest fear was when this crap will finally fry the machine .
And just for nothing .
The launching of some pretty secondary programs was enough to see things going really hot , stupidly slow and disk stressing.Oh .
And I did n't mention that battery lasted for less than half an hour ?
That 's pretty powerful when you are running on public transport and get a emergency call from the office.Linux did not solve certain risks .
However , it made them completely manageable .
Besides , it gave several working scenarios .
Pretty important if you are looking to be on batteries for a few hours.So , I my opinion is that " unfamiliar environment " and " major compatibility issues ' are advertinsing calls for braindead jerks who really do n't have a need for a netbook , except for some exciting glamour of dubious nature .
No one likes to see a machine freezing in the middle of a serious issue .
I had this with Windows twice in a week .
And while on Windows , I had to think not only on my work but also on which next step I should not do or else the machine goes down.On Linux , I had only one hangup in nearly a year and fortunately not related to a emergency .
Just hanged up , I could not find a clear reason for it.I 'll keep using the Eee PC and probably buy a new one .
They are the little powerhorses I 've been waiting for long .
But that " Better With Windows " ... In a biomedical environment there are no " betters with " .
It works,, , Or it is pure crap.Windows IS pure crap on my Eee PC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bought it with Windows pre-installed.For two weeks my biggest fear was when this crap will finally fry the machine.
And just for nothing.
The launching of some pretty secondary programs was enough to see things going really hot, stupidly slow and disk stressing.Oh.
And I didn't mention that battery lasted for less than half an hour?
That's pretty powerful when you are running on public transport and get a emergency call from the office.Linux did not solve certain risks.
However, it made them completely manageable.
Besides, it gave several working scenarios.
Pretty important if you are looking to be on batteries for a few hours.So, I my opinion is that "unfamiliar environment" and "major compatibility issues' are advertinsing calls for  braindead jerks who really don't have a need for a netbook, except for some exciting glamour of dubious nature.
No one likes to see a machine freezing in the middle of a serious issue.
I had this with Windows twice in a week.
And while on Windows, I had to think not only on my work but also on which next step I should not do or else the machine goes down.On Linux, I had only one hangup in nearly a year and fortunately not related to a emergency.
Just hanged up, I could not find a clear reason for it.I'll keep using the Eee PC and probably buy a new one.
They are the little powerhorses I've been waiting for long.
But that "Better With Windows"... In a biomedical environment there are no "betters with".
It works,,, Or it is pure crap.Windows IS pure crap on my Eee PC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28126569</id>
	<title>snarky comments R us</title>
	<author>bugi</author>
	<datestamp>1243536960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's return the favor by adding snarky comments of our own in this convenient forum.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's return the favor by adding snarky comments of our own in this convenient forum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's return the favor by adding snarky comments of our own in this convenient forum.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123971</id>
	<title>Someone want to buy my eee900?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243526940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least Linux has distributions specifically tailored to EEE/netbook laptops like Moblin and eeebuntu for example. These increase usability by using a window manager adapted to a smaller screen. Does Windows even have something like that?</p><p>No it's just the same old "it's not exactly like windows on a desktop, so it's bad" shit (even though MS office file formats are generally supported, so...).</p><p>Xandros linux was a horrible distribution anyway, with horribly little software in it's repository.</p><p>Someone want to buy my eee900?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least Linux has distributions specifically tailored to EEE/netbook laptops like Moblin and eeebuntu for example .
These increase usability by using a window manager adapted to a smaller screen .
Does Windows even have something like that ? No it 's just the same old " it 's not exactly like windows on a desktop , so it 's bad " shit ( even though MS office file formats are generally supported , so... ) .Xandros linux was a horrible distribution anyway , with horribly little software in it 's repository.Someone want to buy my eee900 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least Linux has distributions specifically tailored to EEE/netbook laptops like Moblin and eeebuntu for example.
These increase usability by using a window manager adapted to a smaller screen.
Does Windows even have something like that?No it's just the same old "it's not exactly like windows on a desktop, so it's bad" shit (even though MS office file formats are generally supported, so...).Xandros linux was a horrible distribution anyway, with horribly little software in it's repository.Someone want to buy my eee900?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123567</id>
	<title>It's called competition, kids...</title>
	<author>petrus4</author>
	<datestamp>1243524960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and in this case, it's entirely legitimate.</p><p>From what I can see, it looks like the premade Linux distro for the device still exists.  If it's still preinstalled on the device by default, you have even less to worry about, since that will mean that no matter how much Microsoft try and promote themselves, they will still have inertia to deal with.</p><p>Microsoft are doing what they always do; banking on the concept that most people don't want to engage in intellectual activity, personal initiative, or personal responsibility.  For the most part, it's nearly always a very safe bet for them; they have human nature on their side, and they know it.</p><p>If you want to beat them at this game, what you need to do is promote the advantages inherent in doing something different.  That means:-</p><p>-  Hardware resource efficiency from CLI or light GUI applications that they will never be able to match.  <a href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group\_id=226826" title="sourceforge.net">Cplay</a> [sourceforge.net] or <a href="http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/Client:LXMusic" title="xmms2.xmms.se">LXMusic</a> [xmms2.xmms.se] for music, <a href="http://www.dillo.org/" title="dillo.org">Dillo</a> [dillo.org] for limited web browsing, (but enough on an embedded platform) <a href="http://pcmanfm.sourceforge.net/" title="sourceforge.net">PCManFM</a> [sourceforge.net] for file management, etc.</p><p>-  Greater security.  Microsoft still cannot honestly compete with the root security model, and you can laugh at them if they try.  Linux simply does not get viruses.</p><p>-  As long as the "big two," contemporary desktop environments and ALSA are avoided, Linux also still has infinitely greater robustness.</p><p>Microsoft's solutions are vastly technologically inferior to UNIX.  <b>Always.</b></p><p>Microsoft cannot hope to compete on technical merit, but where they generally do beat Linux or the BSDs is via exploitation of the most base and/or negative elements of human nature; fear, laziness, reluctance to make choices or assume responsibility for those choices.</p><p>Stop fighting amongst yourselves about how best to get the neurotypical population to drink Stallman's Kool-Aid, and then gnashing your teeth when they predictably don't want to.  That isn't going to work.  Linux can beat Microsoft exceptionally easily on technical merit, and if you confine things to X apps, that is primarily what end users care about.</p><p>All Microsoft ever do...all they ever CAN do...is appeal to fear and laziness.  They don't actually offer their customers anything better; they just keep said customers in a state of terror about accepting anything better, if said something better is non-Microsoft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and in this case , it 's entirely legitimate.From what I can see , it looks like the premade Linux distro for the device still exists .
If it 's still preinstalled on the device by default , you have even less to worry about , since that will mean that no matter how much Microsoft try and promote themselves , they will still have inertia to deal with.Microsoft are doing what they always do ; banking on the concept that most people do n't want to engage in intellectual activity , personal initiative , or personal responsibility .
For the most part , it 's nearly always a very safe bet for them ; they have human nature on their side , and they know it.If you want to beat them at this game , what you need to do is promote the advantages inherent in doing something different .
That means : -- Hardware resource efficiency from CLI or light GUI applications that they will never be able to match .
Cplay [ sourceforge.net ] or LXMusic [ xmms2.xmms.se ] for music , Dillo [ dillo.org ] for limited web browsing , ( but enough on an embedded platform ) PCManFM [ sourceforge.net ] for file management , etc.- Greater security .
Microsoft still can not honestly compete with the root security model , and you can laugh at them if they try .
Linux simply does not get viruses.- As long as the " big two , " contemporary desktop environments and ALSA are avoided , Linux also still has infinitely greater robustness.Microsoft 's solutions are vastly technologically inferior to UNIX .
Always.Microsoft can not hope to compete on technical merit , but where they generally do beat Linux or the BSDs is via exploitation of the most base and/or negative elements of human nature ; fear , laziness , reluctance to make choices or assume responsibility for those choices.Stop fighting amongst yourselves about how best to get the neurotypical population to drink Stallman 's Kool-Aid , and then gnashing your teeth when they predictably do n't want to .
That is n't going to work .
Linux can beat Microsoft exceptionally easily on technical merit , and if you confine things to X apps , that is primarily what end users care about.All Microsoft ever do...all they ever CAN do...is appeal to fear and laziness .
They do n't actually offer their customers anything better ; they just keep said customers in a state of terror about accepting anything better , if said something better is non-Microsoft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and in this case, it's entirely legitimate.From what I can see, it looks like the premade Linux distro for the device still exists.
If it's still preinstalled on the device by default, you have even less to worry about, since that will mean that no matter how much Microsoft try and promote themselves, they will still have inertia to deal with.Microsoft are doing what they always do; banking on the concept that most people don't want to engage in intellectual activity, personal initiative, or personal responsibility.
For the most part, it's nearly always a very safe bet for them; they have human nature on their side, and they know it.If you want to beat them at this game, what you need to do is promote the advantages inherent in doing something different.
That means:--  Hardware resource efficiency from CLI or light GUI applications that they will never be able to match.
Cplay [sourceforge.net] or LXMusic [xmms2.xmms.se] for music, Dillo [dillo.org] for limited web browsing, (but enough on an embedded platform) PCManFM [sourceforge.net] for file management, etc.-  Greater security.
Microsoft still cannot honestly compete with the root security model, and you can laugh at them if they try.
Linux simply does not get viruses.-  As long as the "big two," contemporary desktop environments and ALSA are avoided, Linux also still has infinitely greater robustness.Microsoft's solutions are vastly technologically inferior to UNIX.
Always.Microsoft cannot hope to compete on technical merit, but where they generally do beat Linux or the BSDs is via exploitation of the most base and/or negative elements of human nature; fear, laziness, reluctance to make choices or assume responsibility for those choices.Stop fighting amongst yourselves about how best to get the neurotypical population to drink Stallman's Kool-Aid, and then gnashing your teeth when they predictably don't want to.
That isn't going to work.
Linux can beat Microsoft exceptionally easily on technical merit, and if you confine things to X apps, that is primarily what end users care about.All Microsoft ever do...all they ever CAN do...is appeal to fear and laziness.
They don't actually offer their customers anything better; they just keep said customers in a state of terror about accepting anything better, if said something better is non-Microsoft.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121929</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>SpamBot 0wner</author>
	<datestamp>1243516860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><em>Everything</em> works better with Windows. And the best part is, the built-in Windows Defender and Windows Firewall mean that you don't need to buy a separate anti-virus or personal firewall application like you would for some toy OS that didn't have those built in.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everything works better with Windows .
And the best part is , the built-in Windows Defender and Windows Firewall mean that you do n't need to buy a separate anti-virus or personal firewall application like you would for some toy OS that did n't have those built in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everything works better with Windows.
And the best part is, the built-in Windows Defender and Windows Firewall mean that you don't need to buy a separate anti-virus or personal firewall application like you would for some toy OS that didn't have those built in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28126875</id>
	<title>Re:Why bother?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243537920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The simple fact that this article is on slashdot shows that only techie folks really care about Linux being on these netbooks. The average user doesn&#226;(TM)t care in the least. Also there is nothing underhanded about the ASUS deal - if anything its right out in the open. ASUS announced publicly that it was choosing Windows over Linux. Asus made a business deal - plain and simple. Asus is not a proponent of the Liunx popularity campaign. They ultimately went with the OS that increased their bottom line...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The simple fact that this article is on slashdot shows that only techie folks really care about Linux being on these netbooks .
The average user doesn   ( TM ) t care in the least .
Also there is nothing underhanded about the ASUS deal - if anything its right out in the open .
ASUS announced publicly that it was choosing Windows over Linux .
Asus made a business deal - plain and simple .
Asus is not a proponent of the Liunx popularity campaign .
They ultimately went with the OS that increased their bottom line.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The simple fact that this article is on slashdot shows that only techie folks really care about Linux being on these netbooks.
The average user doesnâ(TM)t care in the least.
Also there is nothing underhanded about the ASUS deal - if anything its right out in the open.
ASUS announced publicly that it was choosing Windows over Linux.
Asus made a business deal - plain and simple.
Asus is not a proponent of the Liunx popularity campaign.
They ultimately went with the OS that increased their bottom line...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121827</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122189</id>
	<title>Nearly there....</title>
	<author>PinkyDead</author>
	<datestamp>1243518420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Got rid of Linux...</p><p>Now why not get rid of the Eee altogether.</p><p>I sat through nearly all that rubbish and there is nothing that they were doing that I can't do on my phone (And I've got a 2 year old SE k610i).</p><p>Oh wait!  I couldn't run Microsoft Works....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Got rid of Linux...Now why not get rid of the Eee altogether.I sat through nearly all that rubbish and there is nothing that they were doing that I ca n't do on my phone ( And I 've got a 2 year old SE k610i ) .Oh wait !
I could n't run Microsoft Works... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Got rid of Linux...Now why not get rid of the Eee altogether.I sat through nearly all that rubbish and there is nothing that they were doing that I can't do on my phone (And I've got a 2 year old SE k610i).Oh wait!
I couldn't run Microsoft Works....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124861</id>
	<title>Why compete?  Who cares?</title>
	<author>MarkvW</author>
	<datestamp>1243530540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux either isn't competing with Windows or is competing very, very badly with Windows.  If Linux was competing, we'd see lower prices from MS, a noticeably better product, or a diminishing MS market share.  Those things are not happening.  Windows dominates Linux in the laptop and desktop world.</p><p>Windows dominates because it can mobilize developers to write Windows programs.  It is as simple as that.  Developers write for Windows because they have a far greater chance of making money when they develop for Windows than they do when they develop for Linux.</p><p>If the GNU tribe REALLY wanted to compete with Windows it would EMBRACE it by making all Windows programs execute as flawlessly on Linux as they do on Windows.  When that happens, competition is possible.  Linux starts to kick ass then, because it is free.  Then, Linux can be EXTENDED to afford greater developer power and flexibility.  Only after that stuff will any competition happen.  That's when things could get interesting.</p><p>But the people of the GNU (those who do all the work) are NOT doing these steps necessary for competition.  Why is that?  Why?  Why?  Maybe they have another agenda.  Maybe they just want to develop something really cool that works good for their purposes?  Maybe they don't care about winning corporate mindshare??  Maybe they derive satisfaction from creating a finely wrought product that generates respect for their work or that works for their employer?</p><p>The anti-MS trolls just like to whine.  If they really cared, they'd do the really really hard work and fork Linux into a fully Windows-compatible environment.</p><p>But they won't do that.  They'd rather whine and say how defective Windows is and how they'd never want to create a Windows clone.</p><p>This brings us back to the starting point.</p><p>If you are not prepared to embrace the enemy that is dominating you, you won't be able to extend your capabilities beyond his capabilities and you'll never be able to extinguish him.  So,if you're not prepared to do this very hard (and maybe technically stupid) work. . . .</p><p>Stop all the jabbering about competition and get on with helping make Linux friendly for you and your friends.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux either is n't competing with Windows or is competing very , very badly with Windows .
If Linux was competing , we 'd see lower prices from MS , a noticeably better product , or a diminishing MS market share .
Those things are not happening .
Windows dominates Linux in the laptop and desktop world.Windows dominates because it can mobilize developers to write Windows programs .
It is as simple as that .
Developers write for Windows because they have a far greater chance of making money when they develop for Windows than they do when they develop for Linux.If the GNU tribe REALLY wanted to compete with Windows it would EMBRACE it by making all Windows programs execute as flawlessly on Linux as they do on Windows .
When that happens , competition is possible .
Linux starts to kick ass then , because it is free .
Then , Linux can be EXTENDED to afford greater developer power and flexibility .
Only after that stuff will any competition happen .
That 's when things could get interesting.But the people of the GNU ( those who do all the work ) are NOT doing these steps necessary for competition .
Why is that ?
Why ? Why ?
Maybe they have another agenda .
Maybe they just want to develop something really cool that works good for their purposes ?
Maybe they do n't care about winning corporate mindshare ? ?
Maybe they derive satisfaction from creating a finely wrought product that generates respect for their work or that works for their employer ? The anti-MS trolls just like to whine .
If they really cared , they 'd do the really really hard work and fork Linux into a fully Windows-compatible environment.But they wo n't do that .
They 'd rather whine and say how defective Windows is and how they 'd never want to create a Windows clone.This brings us back to the starting point.If you are not prepared to embrace the enemy that is dominating you , you wo n't be able to extend your capabilities beyond his capabilities and you 'll never be able to extinguish him .
So,if you 're not prepared to do this very hard ( and maybe technically stupid ) work .
. .
.Stop all the jabbering about competition and get on with helping make Linux friendly for you and your friends .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux either isn't competing with Windows or is competing very, very badly with Windows.
If Linux was competing, we'd see lower prices from MS, a noticeably better product, or a diminishing MS market share.
Those things are not happening.
Windows dominates Linux in the laptop and desktop world.Windows dominates because it can mobilize developers to write Windows programs.
It is as simple as that.
Developers write for Windows because they have a far greater chance of making money when they develop for Windows than they do when they develop for Linux.If the GNU tribe REALLY wanted to compete with Windows it would EMBRACE it by making all Windows programs execute as flawlessly on Linux as they do on Windows.
When that happens, competition is possible.
Linux starts to kick ass then, because it is free.
Then, Linux can be EXTENDED to afford greater developer power and flexibility.
Only after that stuff will any competition happen.
That's when things could get interesting.But the people of the GNU (those who do all the work) are NOT doing these steps necessary for competition.
Why is that?
Why?  Why?
Maybe they have another agenda.
Maybe they just want to develop something really cool that works good for their purposes?
Maybe they don't care about winning corporate mindshare??
Maybe they derive satisfaction from creating a finely wrought product that generates respect for their work or that works for their employer?The anti-MS trolls just like to whine.
If they really cared, they'd do the really really hard work and fork Linux into a fully Windows-compatible environment.But they won't do that.
They'd rather whine and say how defective Windows is and how they'd never want to create a Windows clone.This brings us back to the starting point.If you are not prepared to embrace the enemy that is dominating you, you won't be able to extend your capabilities beyond his capabilities and you'll never be able to extinguish him.
So,if you're not prepared to do this very hard (and maybe technically stupid) work.
. .
.Stop all the jabbering about competition and get on with helping make Linux friendly for you and your friends.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121985</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243517160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I totally agree. I got my EEE in February and the included OS (Xandros) was running Firefox 2.10 and could only be updated using a command line, plus lots of other minor annoyances. Xandros hadn't upgraded their repository to Firefox 3 yet. If they can't keep FF up-to-date they I didn't have much hope for any of the other included packages.<br> <br>I'm now running Easy Peasy 1.1 have access to all the Ubuntu packages. I haven't tried it but I assume the Ubuntu Netbook remix would be just as good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I totally agree .
I got my EEE in February and the included OS ( Xandros ) was running Firefox 2.10 and could only be updated using a command line , plus lots of other minor annoyances .
Xandros had n't upgraded their repository to Firefox 3 yet .
If they ca n't keep FF up-to-date they I did n't have much hope for any of the other included packages .
I 'm now running Easy Peasy 1.1 have access to all the Ubuntu packages .
I have n't tried it but I assume the Ubuntu Netbook remix would be just as good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I totally agree.
I got my EEE in February and the included OS (Xandros) was running Firefox 2.10 and could only be updated using a command line, plus lots of other minor annoyances.
Xandros hadn't upgraded their repository to Firefox 3 yet.
If they can't keep FF up-to-date they I didn't have much hope for any of the other included packages.
I'm now running Easy Peasy 1.1 have access to all the Ubuntu packages.
I haven't tried it but I assume the Ubuntu Netbook remix would be just as good.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124107</id>
	<title>The New OEM Business Model</title>
	<author>TheNarrator</author>
	<datestamp>1243527540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Praise Linux.<br>2. Have Microsoft run to you with deals, discounts, and dump trucks full of money.<br>3. Praise Microsoft, Bash Linux.<br>4. Profit!</p><p>This also works for government organizations and prominent businesses in the process of choosing software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Praise Linux.2 .
Have Microsoft run to you with deals , discounts , and dump trucks full of money.3 .
Praise Microsoft , Bash Linux.4 .
Profit ! This also works for government organizations and prominent businesses in the process of choosing software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Praise Linux.2.
Have Microsoft run to you with deals, discounts, and dump trucks full of money.3.
Praise Microsoft, Bash Linux.4.
Profit!This also works for government organizations and prominent businesses in the process of choosing software.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123499</id>
	<title>Oh well</title>
	<author>theillien</author>
	<datestamp>1243524600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Looks like I'll be looking elsewhere when I buy a netbook.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Looks like I 'll be looking elsewhere when I buy a netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looks like I'll be looking elsewhere when I buy a netbook.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123075</id>
	<title>Paranoid much?</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1243522800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond.</i> <p>
They did it out of love for sales.</p><p>
Look around you.</p><p> WalMart has tried to make a go of every flavor of OEM Linux. Every form factor.</p><p>No-name and the Dell brand name.</p><p>The dearly departed include Lindows, gOS, Sun Java, Xandros...</p><p>and so on endlessly.</p><p> <i>Oh, the Merry-Go-Round broke down<br>
It made the darndest sound,<br>
The lights went low,<br>
We both said "Oh!"<br>
And the Merry-Go-Round went<br>
"Um-pah-pah, um-pah-pah, Um-pah! Um-pah! Um-pah-pah!"</i></p><p>WalMart has tried every known sleazeball sales gimmick: the mini board in the maxi case: sold like a flea market BoomBox stereo.</p><p>
The only customer is the ever-hopeful geek - the sheep who can be sheared as often as you like.</p><p>
WalMart with its fantastic, enormous, unprecedented, purchasing power has never been able to consistently undersell OEM Windows by so much as $50.</p><p>
Even when the Linux product is overstock purchased in carload lots. Sweepings off the warehouse floor. </p><p>
It all comes down to this:</p><p>
The Windows netbook has better specs than XP desktop of 2001 with integrated graphics. The dual core Atom with ION graphics is not far off.</p><p> The back list of MSDOS, Win 9x and Win XP titles that will run on this platform is immense.</p><p>You have a viable platform for mobile PC gaming. The legacy PC game. It works with your USB or wireless printer. Your camera.</p><p>
It is the perfect compliment to your Windows laptop, your desktop replacement, your XBOX 360, your Zune.</p><p>
That's your sales pitch - clear, concise, easy to understand, and it does its job damn well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond .
They did it out of love for sales .
Look around you .
WalMart has tried to make a go of every flavor of OEM Linux .
Every form factor.No-name and the Dell brand name.The dearly departed include Lindows , gOS , Sun Java , Xandros...and so on endlessly .
Oh , the Merry-Go-Round broke down It made the darndest sound , The lights went low , We both said " Oh !
" And the Merry-Go-Round went " Um-pah-pah , um-pah-pah , Um-pah !
Um-pah ! Um-pah-pah !
" WalMart has tried every known sleazeball sales gimmick : the mini board in the maxi case : sold like a flea market BoomBox stereo .
The only customer is the ever-hopeful geek - the sheep who can be sheared as often as you like .
WalMart with its fantastic , enormous , unprecedented , purchasing power has never been able to consistently undersell OEM Windows by so much as $ 50 .
Even when the Linux product is overstock purchased in carload lots .
Sweepings off the warehouse floor .
It all comes down to this : The Windows netbook has better specs than XP desktop of 2001 with integrated graphics .
The dual core Atom with ION graphics is not far off .
The back list of MSDOS , Win 9x and Win XP titles that will run on this platform is immense.You have a viable platform for mobile PC gaming .
The legacy PC game .
It works with your USB or wireless printer .
Your camera .
It is the perfect compliment to your Windows laptop , your desktop replacement , your XBOX 360 , your Zune .
That 's your sales pitch - clear , concise , easy to understand , and it does its job damn well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond.
They did it out of love for sales.
Look around you.
WalMart has tried to make a go of every flavor of OEM Linux.
Every form factor.No-name and the Dell brand name.The dearly departed include Lindows, gOS, Sun Java, Xandros...and so on endlessly.
Oh, the Merry-Go-Round broke down
It made the darndest sound,
The lights went low,
We both said "Oh!
"
And the Merry-Go-Round went
"Um-pah-pah, um-pah-pah, Um-pah!
Um-pah! Um-pah-pah!
"WalMart has tried every known sleazeball sales gimmick: the mini board in the maxi case: sold like a flea market BoomBox stereo.
The only customer is the ever-hopeful geek - the sheep who can be sheared as often as you like.
WalMart with its fantastic, enormous, unprecedented, purchasing power has never been able to consistently undersell OEM Windows by so much as $50.
Even when the Linux product is overstock purchased in carload lots.
Sweepings off the warehouse floor.
It all comes down to this:
The Windows netbook has better specs than XP desktop of 2001 with integrated graphics.
The dual core Atom with ION graphics is not far off.
The back list of MSDOS, Win 9x and Win XP titles that will run on this platform is immense.You have a viable platform for mobile PC gaming.
The legacy PC game.
It works with your USB or wireless printer.
Your camera.
It is the perfect compliment to your Windows laptop, your desktop replacement, your XBOX 360, your Zune.
That's your sales pitch - clear, concise, easy to understand, and it does its job damn well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121733</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121787</id>
	<title>Customer lost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well then,</p><p>that's me never buying an Asus product again, unless it's so exceptional I really have to have it (that's<br>fanatism combined with a bit of practicality<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well then,that 's me never buying an Asus product again , unless it 's so exceptional I really have to have it ( that'sfanatism combined with a bit of practicality : P ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well then,that's me never buying an Asus product again, unless it's so exceptional I really have to have it (that'sfanatism combined with a bit of practicality :P).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28135459</id>
	<title>Eee PC Owner Agrees</title>
	<author>Life2Death</author>
	<datestamp>1243539960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got my fiance an Eee PC and after fiddling with it for hours, I gave up and put XP on it. Sure, it was cool, and almost switched me over to nix' for good, but the touch pad drivers were glitchy and I dont have time to mess with that crap. My XP cd with drivers for the rest of my machines worked flawlessly, and I've left her alone on it since. StarOffice was garbage and wouldnt work on Samba shares (on my linux server none the less) so shared office spreadsheets were useless. I tried, and I wanted something free to wisk me away, and it almost did, but alas, I go to the platform that sucks less. (Windows still sucks, but its the less of the many evils out there.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got my fiance an Eee PC and after fiddling with it for hours , I gave up and put XP on it .
Sure , it was cool , and almost switched me over to nix ' for good , but the touch pad drivers were glitchy and I dont have time to mess with that crap .
My XP cd with drivers for the rest of my machines worked flawlessly , and I 've left her alone on it since .
StarOffice was garbage and wouldnt work on Samba shares ( on my linux server none the less ) so shared office spreadsheets were useless .
I tried , and I wanted something free to wisk me away , and it almost did , but alas , I go to the platform that sucks less .
( Windows still sucks , but its the less of the many evils out there .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got my fiance an Eee PC and after fiddling with it for hours, I gave up and put XP on it.
Sure, it was cool, and almost switched me over to nix' for good, but the touch pad drivers were glitchy and I dont have time to mess with that crap.
My XP cd with drivers for the rest of my machines worked flawlessly, and I've left her alone on it since.
StarOffice was garbage and wouldnt work on Samba shares (on my linux server none the less) so shared office spreadsheets were useless.
I tried, and I wanted something free to wisk me away, and it almost did, but alas, I go to the platform that sucks less.
(Windows still sucks, but its the less of the many evils out there.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123721</id>
	<title>Re:Lame site, and a bizarre video</title>
	<author>DaveV1.0</author>
	<datestamp>1243525800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um.... no. He is trying to hail a cab, not doing a nazi salute.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um.... no. He is trying to hail a cab , not doing a nazi salute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um.... no. He is trying to hail a cab, not doing a nazi salute.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123081</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122083</id>
	<title>sketchy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243517760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know. The whois says that domain is registered to GoDaddy... Last I checked MS and Asus owned their own domains. It doesn't seem legitimate to me...
<br> <br>
While I'm a fan of Linux I have installed the Windows 7 RC on both my primary desktop and my EEE recently and it is working wonderfully. Finally MS will release a decent OS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know .
The whois says that domain is registered to GoDaddy... Last I checked MS and Asus owned their own domains .
It does n't seem legitimate to me.. . While I 'm a fan of Linux I have installed the Windows 7 RC on both my primary desktop and my EEE recently and it is working wonderfully .
Finally MS will release a decent OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know.
The whois says that domain is registered to GoDaddy... Last I checked MS and Asus owned their own domains.
It doesn't seem legitimate to me...
 
While I'm a fan of Linux I have installed the Windows 7 RC on both my primary desktop and my EEE recently and it is working wonderfully.
Finally MS will release a decent OS.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123027</id>
	<title>No surprise</title>
	<author>AdmV0rl0n</author>
	<datestamp>1243522500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The smart Linux people will carefully assess the entire picture. And I mean the whole thing.<br>When in the real world, people return the product, you don't squeal about MS, Windows, or anything else. What you do is really assess and work the problem. If they are being returned - why, and beyond why, what could be rectified, and what needs work.</p><p>Unix advocacy is utterly pointless and meaningless in the consumer space. Its not going to cut ice with users, and people.<br>After it shipped, people had to spend time making things work, new distributions have had to be built to cover short comings, and problems, and at the final point, companies that bought into what they were told 'Linux' is ready - have found the real world picture to be a rock and a hard place.</p><p>Linux companies I presume made the OEM deals with these companies, if people want to vent, vent at the product shipped.<br>It\_is\_not the users job to fix your broken, none working OS.</p><p>So, after having high returns, vendors turned away from you.<br>Learn a lesson. In the meantime, the reality of this is a harsh one. Within the limited confines of 'netbooks', a controlled, limited hardware base, and small requirements in terms of apps and OS, Linux came up short. Its an area where Linux should have hit for home runs everywhere. Absorb the lesson, learn from it, take some humble pie, quite blaming MS, The users, The vendors. This is an area where you should be kicking the absolute crap out of Microsoft, AND you should have been bending over backwards with vendors to ship higher spec machines, given MS's attempt to limit and lock it down.</p><p>Wether lessons are learned or not will reflect wether any vendors come back. Bringing them back will take double the work now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The smart Linux people will carefully assess the entire picture .
And I mean the whole thing.When in the real world , people return the product , you do n't squeal about MS , Windows , or anything else .
What you do is really assess and work the problem .
If they are being returned - why , and beyond why , what could be rectified , and what needs work.Unix advocacy is utterly pointless and meaningless in the consumer space .
Its not going to cut ice with users , and people.After it shipped , people had to spend time making things work , new distributions have had to be built to cover short comings , and problems , and at the final point , companies that bought into what they were told 'Linux ' is ready - have found the real world picture to be a rock and a hard place.Linux companies I presume made the OEM deals with these companies , if people want to vent , vent at the product shipped.It \ _is \ _not the users job to fix your broken , none working OS.So , after having high returns , vendors turned away from you.Learn a lesson .
In the meantime , the reality of this is a harsh one .
Within the limited confines of 'netbooks ' , a controlled , limited hardware base , and small requirements in terms of apps and OS , Linux came up short .
Its an area where Linux should have hit for home runs everywhere .
Absorb the lesson , learn from it , take some humble pie , quite blaming MS , The users , The vendors .
This is an area where you should be kicking the absolute crap out of Microsoft , AND you should have been bending over backwards with vendors to ship higher spec machines , given MS 's attempt to limit and lock it down.Wether lessons are learned or not will reflect wether any vendors come back .
Bringing them back will take double the work now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The smart Linux people will carefully assess the entire picture.
And I mean the whole thing.When in the real world, people return the product, you don't squeal about MS, Windows, or anything else.
What you do is really assess and work the problem.
If they are being returned - why, and beyond why, what could be rectified, and what needs work.Unix advocacy is utterly pointless and meaningless in the consumer space.
Its not going to cut ice with users, and people.After it shipped, people had to spend time making things work, new distributions have had to be built to cover short comings, and problems, and at the final point, companies that bought into what they were told 'Linux' is ready - have found the real world picture to be a rock and a hard place.Linux companies I presume made the OEM deals with these companies, if people want to vent, vent at the product shipped.It\_is\_not the users job to fix your broken, none working OS.So, after having high returns, vendors turned away from you.Learn a lesson.
In the meantime, the reality of this is a harsh one.
Within the limited confines of 'netbooks', a controlled, limited hardware base, and small requirements in terms of apps and OS, Linux came up short.
Its an area where Linux should have hit for home runs everywhere.
Absorb the lesson, learn from it, take some humble pie, quite blaming MS, The users, The vendors.
This is an area where you should be kicking the absolute crap out of Microsoft, AND you should have been bending over backwards with vendors to ship higher spec machines, given MS's attempt to limit and lock it down.Wether lessons are learned or not will reflect wether any vendors come back.
Bringing them back will take double the work now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28133413</id>
	<title>Re:There's a problem here</title>
	<author>don.g</author>
	<datestamp>1243521300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a troll, right?</p><p>You have to go pretty low-powered to find a system that can't cope with a small SQL database these days.  And you have to go pretty high up in the newb ranks to find people who would be comfortable recompiling a kernel, even if it's "easy".  Or editing configuration files.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a troll , right ? You have to go pretty low-powered to find a system that ca n't cope with a small SQL database these days .
And you have to go pretty high up in the newb ranks to find people who would be comfortable recompiling a kernel , even if it 's " easy " .
Or editing configuration files .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a troll, right?You have to go pretty low-powered to find a system that can't cope with a small SQL database these days.
And you have to go pretty high up in the newb ranks to find people who would be comfortable recompiling a kernel, even if it's "easy".
Or editing configuration files.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124071</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28129159</id>
	<title>Re:There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1243501320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>GCC doesn't have anybody behind it either. It is now, I think most would admit the #2 compiler after the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET compiler.</p></div><p>I can't parse this statement no matter how hard I try.</p><p>For starters, what's a ".NET compiler"? There's no ".NET programming language". Do you mean C#?</p><p>If true, then the comparison is both meaningless, and also wrong. Meaningless because gcc does not contain a C# compiler; and wrong, because in terms of number of users (and I'm not sure what other metrics you could possibly mean here) gcc certainly beats Visual C#.</p><p>If you rather meant Visual C++ (which isn't a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.NET compiler by any measure), then it would still be wrong. Granted, VC is the compiler of choice for the majority of Windows developers, and Windows is popular. But gcc is the compiler of choice for virtually all other platforms, including most (all?) of the embedded stuff. I don't know how those numbers add up, but my guess would be that gcc would actually be on top.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>GCC does n't have anybody behind it either .
It is now , I think most would admit the # 2 compiler after the .NET compiler.I ca n't parse this statement no matter how hard I try.For starters , what 's a " .NET compiler " ?
There 's no " .NET programming language " .
Do you mean C # ? If true , then the comparison is both meaningless , and also wrong .
Meaningless because gcc does not contain a C # compiler ; and wrong , because in terms of number of users ( and I 'm not sure what other metrics you could possibly mean here ) gcc certainly beats Visual C # .If you rather meant Visual C + + ( which is n't a .NET compiler by any measure ) , then it would still be wrong .
Granted , VC is the compiler of choice for the majority of Windows developers , and Windows is popular .
But gcc is the compiler of choice for virtually all other platforms , including most ( all ?
) of the embedded stuff .
I do n't know how those numbers add up , but my guess would be that gcc would actually be on top .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GCC doesn't have anybody behind it either.
It is now, I think most would admit the #2 compiler after the .NET compiler.I can't parse this statement no matter how hard I try.For starters, what's a ".NET compiler"?
There's no ".NET programming language".
Do you mean C#?If true, then the comparison is both meaningless, and also wrong.
Meaningless because gcc does not contain a C# compiler; and wrong, because in terms of number of users (and I'm not sure what other metrics you could possibly mean here) gcc certainly beats Visual C#.If you rather meant Visual C++ (which isn't a .NET compiler by any measure), then it would still be wrong.
Granted, VC is the compiler of choice for the majority of Windows developers, and Windows is popular.
But gcc is the compiler of choice for virtually all other platforms, including most (all?
) of the embedded stuff.
I don't know how those numbers add up, but my guess would be that gcc would actually be on top.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122031</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121797</id>
	<title>Re:How much money changed hands?</title>
	<author>majorme</author>
	<datestamp>1243516080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I assume MS offered to help them with future support, custom versions of Windows for specific Asus configurations and such. I don't think they promised any cash or have threatened Asus with higher prices. That would be utterly stupid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume MS offered to help them with future support , custom versions of Windows for specific Asus configurations and such .
I do n't think they promised any cash or have threatened Asus with higher prices .
That would be utterly stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume MS offered to help them with future support, custom versions of Windows for specific Asus configurations and such.
I don't think they promised any cash or have threatened Asus with higher prices.
That would be utterly stupid.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121733</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122521</id>
	<title>Re:Now I'm definitely going to buy one!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1243520160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Denied! Because, bla... ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Denied !
Because , bla... ^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Denied!
Because, bla... ^^</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121793</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121727</id>
	<title>That's a damn shame</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1243515660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought it was already pretty easy to "get up and ready" with my EeePC.  Well, Asus will have to live with their decision.</p><p>My next motherboard will be a Gigabyte.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was already pretty easy to " get up and ready " with my EeePC .
Well , Asus will have to live with their decision.My next motherboard will be a Gigabyte .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was already pretty easy to "get up and ready" with my EeePC.
Well, Asus will have to live with their decision.My next motherboard will be a Gigabyte.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121897</id>
	<title>Re:There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Linux is a concept. It's a theory. It's a dream. </p></div><p>I think ``kernel'' is the word you were looking for.  Nice try though.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux is a concept .
It 's a theory .
It 's a dream .
I think ` ` kernel' ' is the word you were looking for .
Nice try though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux is a concept.
It's a theory.
It's a dream.
I think ``kernel'' is the word you were looking for.
Nice try though.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121755</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123171</id>
	<title>Asus, how braindead can you get?</title>
	<author>ArsenneLupin</author>
	<datestamp>1243523160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>while slyly stating that you won't have to deal with<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and "major compatibility issues.'</p> </div><p>Great! Now we have it from Asus itself that it ships hardware that has major compatibility issues... with software pre-installed by Asus itself. Given that the company is obviously so inept, who tells us that there aren't any similar compatibility issues between the hardware and its BIOS. Well probably there are, and we should warn friends, family and employers to shy away from such a lousy brand.</p><p>
Ok, so in reality Asus was probably paid by Microsoft to say this. Like the so numerous companies that were paid to display an "XXX recommends Microsoft Windows" on their website. But if they sell out their judgment so easily, why should they be trusted on anything else that they say? That too would be a reason to run.</p><p>
And strategically this whole thing is really really stoopid on Asus' part, especially now after all the competitors (even Acer!) have brought out similar mini-laptops running Linux.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>while slyly stating that you wo n't have to deal with ... and " major compatibility issues .
' Great !
Now we have it from Asus itself that it ships hardware that has major compatibility issues... with software pre-installed by Asus itself .
Given that the company is obviously so inept , who tells us that there are n't any similar compatibility issues between the hardware and its BIOS .
Well probably there are , and we should warn friends , family and employers to shy away from such a lousy brand .
Ok , so in reality Asus was probably paid by Microsoft to say this .
Like the so numerous companies that were paid to display an " XXX recommends Microsoft Windows " on their website .
But if they sell out their judgment so easily , why should they be trusted on anything else that they say ?
That too would be a reason to run .
And strategically this whole thing is really really stoopid on Asus ' part , especially now after all the competitors ( even Acer !
) have brought out similar mini-laptops running Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>while slyly stating that you won't have to deal with ... and "major compatibility issues.
' Great!
Now we have it from Asus itself that it ships hardware that has major compatibility issues... with software pre-installed by Asus itself.
Given that the company is obviously so inept, who tells us that there aren't any similar compatibility issues between the hardware and its BIOS.
Well probably there are, and we should warn friends, family and employers to shy away from such a lousy brand.
Ok, so in reality Asus was probably paid by Microsoft to say this.
Like the so numerous companies that were paid to display an "XXX recommends Microsoft Windows" on their website.
But if they sell out their judgment so easily, why should they be trusted on anything else that they say?
That too would be a reason to run.
And strategically this whole thing is really really stoopid on Asus' part, especially now after all the competitors (even Acer!
) have brought out similar mini-laptops running Linux.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121883</id>
	<title>Question:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what is an Eee PC?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what is an Eee PC ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what is an Eee PC?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121813</id>
	<title>Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't get me wrong, I like my EEE but Asus completely screwed up. The interface was poor, the updates were rubbish and in fact some of the updates would break it. It's quite possibly the worst Linux distro I've seen. I might as well buy a normal smallish laptop with an SSD as I still have to uninstall the OS and put my own on with an EEE.
<br> <br>
In a way their Linux distro is more of a slap in the face for Linux than not using Linux.
<br> <br>
I've had much better luck since putting my own instance of Ubuntu onto the machine which I prefer much more than I would Windows or that custom Xandros OS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't get me wrong , I like my EEE but Asus completely screwed up .
The interface was poor , the updates were rubbish and in fact some of the updates would break it .
It 's quite possibly the worst Linux distro I 've seen .
I might as well buy a normal smallish laptop with an SSD as I still have to uninstall the OS and put my own on with an EEE .
In a way their Linux distro is more of a slap in the face for Linux than not using Linux .
I 've had much better luck since putting my own instance of Ubuntu onto the machine which I prefer much more than I would Windows or that custom Xandros OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't get me wrong, I like my EEE but Asus completely screwed up.
The interface was poor, the updates were rubbish and in fact some of the updates would break it.
It's quite possibly the worst Linux distro I've seen.
I might as well buy a normal smallish laptop with an SSD as I still have to uninstall the OS and put my own on with an EEE.
In a way their Linux distro is more of a slap in the face for Linux than not using Linux.
I've had much better luck since putting my own instance of Ubuntu onto the machine which I prefer much more than I would Windows or that custom Xandros OS.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124677</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243529700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>WAH *cry* SOB *cry* WEEP *bitter*</p><p>Yeah, Linux wasn't making anyone any money so Asus jumped ship... Surprise!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>WAH * cry * SOB * cry * WEEP * bitter * Yeah , Linux was n't making anyone any money so Asus jumped ship... Surprise !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>WAH *cry* SOB *cry* WEEP *bitter*Yeah, Linux wasn't making anyone any money so Asus jumped ship... Surprise!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124021</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243527180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about we just SUE ASUS now for not providing the sourcecode to expressgate. Since it's a GPL violation and I want access to my motherboards internals.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about we just SUE ASUS now for not providing the sourcecode to expressgate .
Since it 's a GPL violation and I want access to my motherboards internals .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about we just SUE ASUS now for not providing the sourcecode to expressgate.
Since it's a GPL violation and I want access to my motherboards internals.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28128703</id>
	<title>Who cares?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243542960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got my EEE with Windows yesterday, and I will be installing Ubuntu on it tonight. I still have some uses for a copy of WIndows, so if I can pay the same price for one with Windows pre-installed and then install Linux myself, why wouldn't I? The Linux distros that ship on these things does not meet my needs, so I would wind up installing Ubuntu anyway.</p><p>I'm sure I'm not the only one doing this. Let Microsoft brag about their sales numbers. My machines (which have Ubuntu/Windows on them) spend 90\% of their uptime running Linux anyway.</p><p>I seem to be the only one on the planet who wants a standard GNOME or Windows desktop on these little things and not an interface resembling a PDA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got my EEE with Windows yesterday , and I will be installing Ubuntu on it tonight .
I still have some uses for a copy of WIndows , so if I can pay the same price for one with Windows pre-installed and then install Linux myself , why would n't I ?
The Linux distros that ship on these things does not meet my needs , so I would wind up installing Ubuntu anyway.I 'm sure I 'm not the only one doing this .
Let Microsoft brag about their sales numbers .
My machines ( which have Ubuntu/Windows on them ) spend 90 \ % of their uptime running Linux anyway.I seem to be the only one on the planet who wants a standard GNOME or Windows desktop on these little things and not an interface resembling a PDA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got my EEE with Windows yesterday, and I will be installing Ubuntu on it tonight.
I still have some uses for a copy of WIndows, so if I can pay the same price for one with Windows pre-installed and then install Linux myself, why wouldn't I?
The Linux distros that ship on these things does not meet my needs, so I would wind up installing Ubuntu anyway.I'm sure I'm not the only one doing this.
Let Microsoft brag about their sales numbers.
My machines (which have Ubuntu/Windows on them) spend 90\% of their uptime running Linux anyway.I seem to be the only one on the planet who wants a standard GNOME or Windows desktop on these little things and not an interface resembling a PDA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123195</id>
	<title>"Unfamiliar Environment"?!</title>
	<author>neurogeek</author>
	<datestamp>1243523280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mistakenly ordered a laptop with Vista and the new Microsoft Office installed.  Both present a new user environment.  I am a power user with Excel, and found it very difficult to use the new Excel.  They replaced all of the menus with icon panels, with beautifully redrawn icons, and scrambled the locations up.  I'm playing a game of guessing what the icon does, hovering, and reading the "tool tip" to be sure.  Talk about an "unfamiliar environemnt".

</p><p>My entreprenurial landlord teaches classes for small businesses on how to switch to Open Office instead of the new Microsoft Office.  If they're going to have to retrain anyway, why not go to something that is free?

</p><p>(Alternatively, it could just be that I am getting "old".  When I was a teenager I shifted from WordPerfect to Emacs with less difficulty.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mistakenly ordered a laptop with Vista and the new Microsoft Office installed .
Both present a new user environment .
I am a power user with Excel , and found it very difficult to use the new Excel .
They replaced all of the menus with icon panels , with beautifully redrawn icons , and scrambled the locations up .
I 'm playing a game of guessing what the icon does , hovering , and reading the " tool tip " to be sure .
Talk about an " unfamiliar environemnt " .
My entreprenurial landlord teaches classes for small businesses on how to switch to Open Office instead of the new Microsoft Office .
If they 're going to have to retrain anyway , why not go to something that is free ?
( Alternatively , it could just be that I am getting " old " .
When I was a teenager I shifted from WordPerfect to Emacs with less difficulty .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mistakenly ordered a laptop with Vista and the new Microsoft Office installed.
Both present a new user environment.
I am a power user with Excel, and found it very difficult to use the new Excel.
They replaced all of the menus with icon panels, with beautifully redrawn icons, and scrambled the locations up.
I'm playing a game of guessing what the icon does, hovering, and reading the "tool tip" to be sure.
Talk about an "unfamiliar environemnt".
My entreprenurial landlord teaches classes for small businesses on how to switch to Open Office instead of the new Microsoft Office.
If they're going to have to retrain anyway, why not go to something that is free?
(Alternatively, it could just be that I am getting "old".
When I was a teenager I shifted from WordPerfect to Emacs with less difficulty.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28153141</id>
	<title>Considering buying a netbook, is this real?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243682820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've read as many articles on this as I can find to see if this is real or not and there seems to be no official word from asus or ms about it.  I did find a link to an ad on newegg.com though that links to the website, so it does seem legit.  If this is the case I'm certainly not going to buy the 1000he I almost ordered from newegg today.  Going to hold off on ordering until I can confirm or debunk this so any info would be much appretiated.</p><p>This is the newegg link:  http://promotions.newegg.com/ASUS/041609/?cm\_sp=Subcat\_Netbooks-\_-ASUS/041609-\_-http\%3a\%2f\%2fpromotions.newegg.com\%2fASUS\%2f041609\%2f478x88.jpg</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've read as many articles on this as I can find to see if this is real or not and there seems to be no official word from asus or ms about it .
I did find a link to an ad on newegg.com though that links to the website , so it does seem legit .
If this is the case I 'm certainly not going to buy the 1000he I almost ordered from newegg today .
Going to hold off on ordering until I can confirm or debunk this so any info would be much appretiated.This is the newegg link : http : //promotions.newegg.com/ASUS/041609/ ? cm \ _sp = Subcat \ _Netbooks- \ _-ASUS/041609- \ _-http \ % 3a \ % 2f \ % 2fpromotions.newegg.com \ % 2fASUS \ % 2f041609 \ % 2f478x88.jpg</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've read as many articles on this as I can find to see if this is real or not and there seems to be no official word from asus or ms about it.
I did find a link to an ad on newegg.com though that links to the website, so it does seem legit.
If this is the case I'm certainly not going to buy the 1000he I almost ordered from newegg today.
Going to hold off on ordering until I can confirm or debunk this so any info would be much appretiated.This is the newegg link:  http://promotions.newegg.com/ASUS/041609/?cm\_sp=Subcat\_Netbooks-\_-ASUS/041609-\_-http\%3a\%2f\%2fpromotions.newegg.com\%2fASUS\%2f041609\%2f478x88.jpg</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124505</id>
	<title>Snarky ads...</title>
	<author>Zarf</author>
	<datestamp>1243528980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can see them now:<br>Tux: Hello I'm a Linux<br>Win: And, I'm a windows.<br>Win: what ya got there Linux?<br>Tux: well I'm just downloading all my RPM's configing my kernel, and patching my boot loader...<br>Win: sounds complicated.<br>Tux: nah, it's easy all you gotta do is drop to the command line and use these toggles on a<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... (trails off)<br>Win: huh? Really? [hot babe walks on screen]<br>Tux: what's that?<br>Win: Oh, she's my new installer wizard.<br>Tux: wait, it's a <i>girl</i>? [Tux looks dejected as we fade to black]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see them now : Tux : Hello I 'm a LinuxWin : And , I 'm a windows.Win : what ya got there Linux ? Tux : well I 'm just downloading all my RPM 's configing my kernel , and patching my boot loader...Win : sounds complicated.Tux : nah , it 's easy all you got ta do is drop to the command line and use these toggles on a ... ( trails off ) Win : huh ?
Really ? [ hot babe walks on screen ] Tux : what 's that ? Win : Oh , she 's my new installer wizard.Tux : wait , it 's a girl ?
[ Tux looks dejected as we fade to black ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see them now:Tux: Hello I'm a LinuxWin: And, I'm a windows.Win: what ya got there Linux?Tux: well I'm just downloading all my RPM's configing my kernel, and patching my boot loader...Win: sounds complicated.Tux: nah, it's easy all you gotta do is drop to the command line and use these toggles on a ... (trails off)Win: huh?
Really? [hot babe walks on screen]Tux: what's that?Win: Oh, she's my new installer wizard.Tux: wait, it's a girl?
[Tux looks dejected as we fade to black]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123135</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>xtracto</author>
	<datestamp>1243522980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Don't get me wrong, I like my EEE but Asus completely screwed up. The interface was poor, the updates were rubbish and in fact some of the updates would break it. It's quite possibly the worst Linux distro I've seen. I</i></p><p>The solution to that was to install the Windows XP operating system so that you do not have to deal with all those problem on the Linux side<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Maybe this new kind of offer (promoted in this web page) is aimed at you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't get me wrong , I like my EEE but Asus completely screwed up .
The interface was poor , the updates were rubbish and in fact some of the updates would break it .
It 's quite possibly the worst Linux distro I 've seen .
IThe solution to that was to install the Windows XP operating system so that you do not have to deal with all those problem on the Linux side : ) Maybe this new kind of offer ( promoted in this web page ) is aimed at you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't get me wrong, I like my EEE but Asus completely screwed up.
The interface was poor, the updates were rubbish and in fact some of the updates would break it.
It's quite possibly the worst Linux distro I've seen.
IThe solution to that was to install the Windows XP operating system so that you do not have to deal with all those problem on the Linux side :)Maybe this new kind of offer (promoted in this web page) is aimed at you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121967</id>
	<title>Wow, unbelievable</title>
	<author>CXI</author>
	<datestamp>1243517040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Check it out, a company has a marketing campaign, and you heard it first here on Slashdot! Oh, wait, no you heard it first on Techgeist, but they got it from a forum somewhere so... where was I going with this? Oh, yeah, did I mention Microsoft was evil? It said so in a blog I read once, when I wasn't reading actual important news stories that have content and meaning.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Check it out , a company has a marketing campaign , and you heard it first here on Slashdot !
Oh , wait , no you heard it first on Techgeist , but they got it from a forum somewhere so... where was I going with this ?
Oh , yeah , did I mention Microsoft was evil ?
It said so in a blog I read once , when I was n't reading actual important news stories that have content and meaning .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Check it out, a company has a marketing campaign, and you heard it first here on Slashdot!
Oh, wait, no you heard it first on Techgeist, but they got it from a forum somewhere so... where was I going with this?
Oh, yeah, did I mention Microsoft was evil?
It said so in a blog I read once, when I wasn't reading actual important news stories that have content and meaning.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122881</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243521900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It runs longer on a charge with Windos than with Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It runs longer on a charge with Windos than with Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It runs longer on a charge with Windos than with Linux.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121847</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It is better with Windows.</i></p><p>Maybe <i>now</i> it is, but the original eeepc, with a 800x480 screen was not.</p><p>Asus couldn't have bought out the original eeepc without linux. XP on that resolution? Back then?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is better with Windows.Maybe now it is , but the original eeepc , with a 800x480 screen was not.Asus could n't have bought out the original eeepc without linux .
XP on that resolution ?
Back then ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is better with Windows.Maybe now it is, but the original eeepc, with a 800x480 screen was not.Asus couldn't have bought out the original eeepc without linux.
XP on that resolution?
Back then?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123965</id>
	<title>Hoax...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243526940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it is linked on the Asus website, but I think they must have been hacked.  I have never heard of the Eee PC 1008 that the asus links come from.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it is linked on the Asus website , but I think they must have been hacked .
I have never heard of the Eee PC 1008 that the asus links come from .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it is linked on the Asus website, but I think they must have been hacked.
I have never heard of the Eee PC 1008 that the asus links come from.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122041</id>
	<title>unfamiliar environment, major compatibility issues</title>
	<author>Dystopian Rebel</author>
	<datestamp>1243517460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also excellent reasons not to use Vista and Windows 7.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also excellent reasons not to use Vista and Windows 7 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also excellent reasons not to use Vista and Windows 7.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124775</id>
	<title>Re:unfamiliar environment, major compatibility iss</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1243530120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Also excellent reasons not to use Vista and Windows 7.</i> </p><p>Not really.</p><p><a href="http://download.cnet.com/SolSuite-Solitaire-2009/3000-18527\_4-10018763.html" title="cnet.com">SolSuite Solitaire</a> [cnet.com] has been quietly - and successfully - migrating players to Vista and The Ribbon.</p><p> The solitaire player is as stereotypical a portrait of the Windows user as you'll find anywhere.</p><p> If the transition has been easy for him, it will be easy for anyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also excellent reasons not to use Vista and Windows 7 .
Not really.SolSuite Solitaire [ cnet.com ] has been quietly - and successfully - migrating players to Vista and The Ribbon .
The solitaire player is as stereotypical a portrait of the Windows user as you 'll find anywhere .
If the transition has been easy for him , it will be easy for anyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also excellent reasons not to use Vista and Windows 7.
Not really.SolSuite Solitaire [cnet.com] has been quietly - and successfully - migrating players to Vista and The Ribbon.
The solitaire player is as stereotypical a portrait of the Windows user as you'll find anywhere.
If the transition has been easy for him, it will be easy for anyone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122041</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122731</id>
	<title>Hit back.</title>
	<author>asdf7890</author>
	<datestamp>1243521120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ignoring for a moment the fact that there is probably no direct link from this site to either Asus or MS, as pointed out by many above, and that the site is presumably by some low-on-work designer trying to get attention...</p><p>If any company were to publish a site like this the community or another manufacturer could easily hit back with a similar "Linux works better on XYZ than it does ABC - look, even the people who make ABC say their hardware doesn't support anything but Windows properly!". OK so many won't care directly because they want Windows irrespective, but such a site could make a link between hardware not working well under all OSs to quality issues (it works fine on our hardware, I wonder what is wrong with theirs?) or lack of future proofing (will they make a version of proprietary custom driver X for future versions of Windows?)</p><p>The above is just one reason that a company like Asus would not support a site like this one - it could too easily back fire and lose sales. It would also open them to litigation in some territories with people who bought one without Windows before such a "Linux won't work as well" campaign being able to claim that their version with Linux was mis-sold to them as the manufacturer now admits the arrangement is not adequate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignoring for a moment the fact that there is probably no direct link from this site to either Asus or MS , as pointed out by many above , and that the site is presumably by some low-on-work designer trying to get attention...If any company were to publish a site like this the community or another manufacturer could easily hit back with a similar " Linux works better on XYZ than it does ABC - look , even the people who make ABC say their hardware does n't support anything but Windows properly ! " .
OK so many wo n't care directly because they want Windows irrespective , but such a site could make a link between hardware not working well under all OSs to quality issues ( it works fine on our hardware , I wonder what is wrong with theirs ?
) or lack of future proofing ( will they make a version of proprietary custom driver X for future versions of Windows ?
) The above is just one reason that a company like Asus would not support a site like this one - it could too easily back fire and lose sales .
It would also open them to litigation in some territories with people who bought one without Windows before such a " Linux wo n't work as well " campaign being able to claim that their version with Linux was mis-sold to them as the manufacturer now admits the arrangement is not adequate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignoring for a moment the fact that there is probably no direct link from this site to either Asus or MS, as pointed out by many above, and that the site is presumably by some low-on-work designer trying to get attention...If any company were to publish a site like this the community or another manufacturer could easily hit back with a similar "Linux works better on XYZ than it does ABC - look, even the people who make ABC say their hardware doesn't support anything but Windows properly!".
OK so many won't care directly because they want Windows irrespective, but such a site could make a link between hardware not working well under all OSs to quality issues (it works fine on our hardware, I wonder what is wrong with theirs?
) or lack of future proofing (will they make a version of proprietary custom driver X for future versions of Windows?
)The above is just one reason that a company like Asus would not support a site like this one - it could too easily back fire and lose sales.
It would also open them to litigation in some territories with people who bought one without Windows before such a "Linux won't work as well" campaign being able to claim that their version with Linux was mis-sold to them as the manufacturer now admits the arrangement is not adequate.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121755</id>
	<title>There is no "Linux"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243515900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Linux is a concept. It's a theory. It's a dream. That's what makes it so powerful.</p><p>And it's also what makes it so frustrating for anyone who wants to see it succeed. What is success for an Open Source project? A child learning to walk takes the first step and the parents celebrate the moment, but what is that first step if nothing more than the first of countless more steps?</p><p>So what is Linux success? Is it dominating Windows? Domination of Windows is a worthy goal, but there is no one behind Linux to make that a reality. There is Ubuntu, sure. And RedHat. And MontaVista. And IBM. But are they behind Linux? No, they are out for themselves. Linux is the vehicle which they believe will take them where they want to go.</p><p>When Asus says they want to use Windows, let them. No skin off our backs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux is a concept .
It 's a theory .
It 's a dream .
That 's what makes it so powerful.And it 's also what makes it so frustrating for anyone who wants to see it succeed .
What is success for an Open Source project ?
A child learning to walk takes the first step and the parents celebrate the moment , but what is that first step if nothing more than the first of countless more steps ? So what is Linux success ?
Is it dominating Windows ?
Domination of Windows is a worthy goal , but there is no one behind Linux to make that a reality .
There is Ubuntu , sure .
And RedHat .
And MontaVista .
And IBM .
But are they behind Linux ?
No , they are out for themselves .
Linux is the vehicle which they believe will take them where they want to go.When Asus says they want to use Windows , let them .
No skin off our backs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux is a concept.
It's a theory.
It's a dream.
That's what makes it so powerful.And it's also what makes it so frustrating for anyone who wants to see it succeed.
What is success for an Open Source project?
A child learning to walk takes the first step and the parents celebrate the moment, but what is that first step if nothing more than the first of countless more steps?So what is Linux success?
Is it dominating Windows?
Domination of Windows is a worthy goal, but there is no one behind Linux to make that a reality.
There is Ubuntu, sure.
And RedHat.
And MontaVista.
And IBM.
But are they behind Linux?
No, they are out for themselves.
Linux is the vehicle which they believe will take them where they want to go.When Asus says they want to use Windows, let them.
No skin off our backs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28133141</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Kris\_J</author>
	<datestamp>1243519380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just like how I installed Windows over the Linux version at work! ^\_^ Isn't choice a wonderful thing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like how I installed Windows over the Linux version at work !
^ \ _ ^ Is n't choice a wonderful thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like how I installed Windows over the Linux version at work!
^\_^ Isn't choice a wonderful thing?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122335</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>gbarules2999</author>
	<datestamp>1243519140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn, missed "funny" with my mod point - posting to cancel the effect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn , missed " funny " with my mod point - posting to cancel the effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn, missed "funny" with my mod point - posting to cancel the effect.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122709</id>
	<title>Re:That's a damn shame</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243521000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I decided never to buy ASUS again, a long time ago.</p><p>I bought one of their passively cooled graphics cards, and since I run a water cooled system, I wanted to make sure that it did not depend overly on ambient airflow, and that the temperature readings in the included app was sufficiently accurate. (They didn't seem to be).</p><p>I researched these topics well, before carefully wording a few succinct questions, that I emailed to their support. After two weeks I got a reply that not only failed to answer all my questions, but also said "Please! In the future, read the FAQ before emailing support! Please!".</p><p>Note the redundant please. Well the FAQ says fuck all about water cooled systems and ambient airflow.</p><p>So, ASUS can go fuck them selves up and down the block for all I care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I decided never to buy ASUS again , a long time ago.I bought one of their passively cooled graphics cards , and since I run a water cooled system , I wanted to make sure that it did not depend overly on ambient airflow , and that the temperature readings in the included app was sufficiently accurate .
( They did n't seem to be ) .I researched these topics well , before carefully wording a few succinct questions , that I emailed to their support .
After two weeks I got a reply that not only failed to answer all my questions , but also said " Please !
In the future , read the FAQ before emailing support !
Please ! " .Note the redundant please .
Well the FAQ says fuck all about water cooled systems and ambient airflow.So , ASUS can go fuck them selves up and down the block for all I care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I decided never to buy ASUS again, a long time ago.I bought one of their passively cooled graphics cards, and since I run a water cooled system, I wanted to make sure that it did not depend overly on ambient airflow, and that the temperature readings in the included app was sufficiently accurate.
(They didn't seem to be).I researched these topics well, before carefully wording a few succinct questions, that I emailed to their support.
After two weeks I got a reply that not only failed to answer all my questions, but also said "Please!
In the future, read the FAQ before emailing support!
Please!".Note the redundant please.
Well the FAQ says fuck all about water cooled systems and ambient airflow.So, ASUS can go fuck them selves up and down the block for all I care.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121727</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28136413</id>
	<title>no more talk about it</title>
	<author>KingBenny</author>
	<datestamp>1243594860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and let Darwin sort 'em out xD</htmltext>
<tokenext>and let Darwin sort 'em out xD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and let Darwin sort 'em out xD</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28130835</id>
	<title>Or a random ebay seller.</title>
	<author>queazocotal</author>
	<datestamp>1243507980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I first noticed this site a few days ago - linked from an ebay auction.<br><a href="http://cgi.ebay.ca/NIB--Asus-EeePC-1000HE-10" title="cgi.ebay.ca" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.ca/NIB--Asus-EeePC-1000HE-10</a> [cgi.ebay.ca]"-160G\%2F1GB-BLUE-EBONY-XP\_W0QQitemZ290318394892QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090520?IMSfp=TL090520166001r25703 was one<br>(ended) auction. - I was searching to find any 10" eeepcs with linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I first noticed this site a few days ago - linked from an ebay auction.http : //cgi.ebay.ca/NIB--Asus-EeePC-1000HE-10 [ cgi.ebay.ca ] " -160G \ % 2F1GB-BLUE-EBONY-XP \ _W0QQitemZ290318394892QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090520 ? IMSfp = TL090520166001r25703 was one ( ended ) auction .
- I was searching to find any 10 " eeepcs with linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I first noticed this site a few days ago - linked from an ebay auction.http://cgi.ebay.ca/NIB--Asus-EeePC-1000HE-10 [cgi.ebay.ca]"-160G\%2F1GB-BLUE-EBONY-XP\_W0QQitemZ290318394892QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxZ20090520?IMSfp=TL090520166001r25703 was one(ended) auction.
- I was searching to find any 10" eeepcs with linux.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122495</id>
	<title>Website is fake</title>
	<author>xonar</author>
	<datestamp>1243520040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's hosted by godaddy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's hosted by godaddy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's hosted by godaddy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122527</id>
	<title>Re:How much money changed hands?</title>
	<author>Elektroschock</author>
	<datestamp>1243520160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Asus is a Taiwanese hardware manufacturer. They fund Linux because they know it drives Microsoft crazy and they get better procurement conditions. So when they say "windows is better" than mind that before it was "no choice", and as all competitors know it advises to the opposite. Microsoft will not stop Asus' wise Linux investment, and Taiwanese open source efforts like LXDE.</p><p>Hardware manufacturere need a Linux strategy to get like Asus a super return on investment. AOL invested in Mozilla and Microsoft paid them a shitload of money to stay with their browser engine, a few years later the IE dominance is gone. The business of open source with Microsoft, you invest a bit in open source and Microsoft gets really scared and throws money at you.</p><p>Asus thinks Windows is better because they now get it almost for free. But the very reason for that was their progressive Linux embracement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Asus is a Taiwanese hardware manufacturer .
They fund Linux because they know it drives Microsoft crazy and they get better procurement conditions .
So when they say " windows is better " than mind that before it was " no choice " , and as all competitors know it advises to the opposite .
Microsoft will not stop Asus ' wise Linux investment , and Taiwanese open source efforts like LXDE.Hardware manufacturere need a Linux strategy to get like Asus a super return on investment .
AOL invested in Mozilla and Microsoft paid them a shitload of money to stay with their browser engine , a few years later the IE dominance is gone .
The business of open source with Microsoft , you invest a bit in open source and Microsoft gets really scared and throws money at you.Asus thinks Windows is better because they now get it almost for free .
But the very reason for that was their progressive Linux embracement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Asus is a Taiwanese hardware manufacturer.
They fund Linux because they know it drives Microsoft crazy and they get better procurement conditions.
So when they say "windows is better" than mind that before it was "no choice", and as all competitors know it advises to the opposite.
Microsoft will not stop Asus' wise Linux investment, and Taiwanese open source efforts like LXDE.Hardware manufacturere need a Linux strategy to get like Asus a super return on investment.
AOL invested in Mozilla and Microsoft paid them a shitload of money to stay with their browser engine, a few years later the IE dominance is gone.
The business of open source with Microsoft, you invest a bit in open source and Microsoft gets really scared and throws money at you.Asus thinks Windows is better because they now get it almost for free.
But the very reason for that was their progressive Linux embracement.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121733</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28129437</id>
	<title>Re:Asus screwed up</title>
	<author>ArsonSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1243502220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He didn't specify it was with the OS.</p><p>"He brought it over...Its been a love affair every since."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He did n't specify it was with the OS .
" He brought it over...Its been a love affair every since .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He didn't specify it was with the OS.
"He brought it over...Its been a love affair every since.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122725</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124029</id>
	<title>Double Take</title>
	<author>Baby Duck</author>
	<datestamp>1243527240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I first read this as "Ass Slaps Nuts In the Face"</htmltext>
<tokenext>I first read this as " Ass Slaps Nuts In the Face "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I first read this as "Ass Slaps Nuts In the Face"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122359</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Sir\_Real</author>
	<datestamp>1243519260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i><br>Meh. I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.<br></i></p><p>And pay the microsoft tax?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
I 'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.And pay the microsoft tax ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.And pay the microsoft tax?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121697</id>
	<title>hey Asus</title>
	<author>FudRucker</author>
	<datestamp>1243515540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>fuck you! i wont be buying your products anymore. i can squeeze a few more years out of that old thinkpad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>fuck you !
i wont be buying your products anymore .
i can squeeze a few more years out of that old thinkpad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fuck you!
i wont be buying your products anymore.
i can squeeze a few more years out of that old thinkpad.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122345</id>
	<title>Re:sketchy</title>
	<author>harryandthehenderson</author>
	<datestamp>1243519200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It doesn't seem legitimate to me...</p> </div><p>Yeah, cause Asus would be linking to the site if it wasn't legitimate, right?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The Eee PC&#226; 1008HA comes pre-loaded with Microsoft Windows XP Home and Microsoft Works. With Windows&#194;&#174; XP, you can be sure that your Eee PC&#226; will be compatible with your existing Windows applications and devices. Windows&#194;&#174; XP is also easy to use and delivers a dependable experience that Microsoft and a worldwide community of partners stand behind. <i>Visit www.ItsBetterwithWindows.com &#194; to find out more.</i></p> </div><p> <a href="http://www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html" title="asus.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html</a> [asus.co.uk]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It does n't seem legitimate to me... Yeah , cause Asus would be linking to the site if it was n't legitimate , right ? The Eee PC   1008HA comes pre-loaded with Microsoft Windows XP Home and Microsoft Works .
With Windows     XP , you can be sure that your Eee PC   will be compatible with your existing Windows applications and devices .
Windows     XP is also easy to use and delivers a dependable experience that Microsoft and a worldwide community of partners stand behind .
Visit www.ItsBetterwithWindows.com   to find out more .
http : //www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html [ asus.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It doesn't seem legitimate to me... Yeah, cause Asus would be linking to the site if it wasn't legitimate, right?The Eee PCâ 1008HA comes pre-loaded with Microsoft Windows XP Home and Microsoft Works.
With WindowsÂ® XP, you can be sure that your Eee PCâ will be compatible with your existing Windows applications and devices.
WindowsÂ® XP is also easy to use and delivers a dependable experience that Microsoft and a worldwide community of partners stand behind.
Visit www.ItsBetterwithWindows.com Â to find out more.
http://www.asus.co.uk/eeepc/1008HA/features.html [asus.co.uk]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122083</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124943</id>
	<title>A business decision</title>
	<author>thatblackguy</author>
	<datestamp>1243530840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>First I thought ASUS had crossed the line, it's one thing to promote MS and it's another to trash linux. Especially since it had become wildly popular because of its linux version and all the cool things you could now do with a open system on a tiny computer.
Obviously I am outraged (damnit stupid think-of-the-children types have usurped that word).
Then I thought about their point of view.
They get cash from microsoft, free publicity and a 0.1\% of population of outraged geeks and nerds. Looks like a great strategy to sell more laptops while burning any cred they had with the open source crowd.
Fuck 'em.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First I thought ASUS had crossed the line , it 's one thing to promote MS and it 's another to trash linux .
Especially since it had become wildly popular because of its linux version and all the cool things you could now do with a open system on a tiny computer .
Obviously I am outraged ( damnit stupid think-of-the-children types have usurped that word ) .
Then I thought about their point of view .
They get cash from microsoft , free publicity and a 0.1 \ % of population of outraged geeks and nerds .
Looks like a great strategy to sell more laptops while burning any cred they had with the open source crowd .
Fuck 'em .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First I thought ASUS had crossed the line, it's one thing to promote MS and it's another to trash linux.
Especially since it had become wildly popular because of its linux version and all the cool things you could now do with a open system on a tiny computer.
Obviously I am outraged (damnit stupid think-of-the-children types have usurped that word).
Then I thought about their point of view.
They get cash from microsoft, free publicity and a 0.1\% of population of outraged geeks and nerds.
Looks like a great strategy to sell more laptops while burning any cred they had with the open source crowd.
Fuck 'em.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121889</id>
	<title>Blame Microsoft</title>
	<author>Shrike82</author>
	<datestamp>1243516620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not exactly a well researched or even factual story this, even for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.<br> <br>

A quick check of the <a href="http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/itsbetterwithwindows.com" title="networksolutions.com">domain registry</a> [networksolutions.com] shows that the site isn't owned by either Microsoft or Asus. In fact it appears to be some kind of ad agency, probably hired to increase sales of Asus equipment for a third party.<br> <br>

Don't let me stop the conspiracy theories though. I suppose the site is badly designed, looks awful and doesn't actually do anything useful deliberately? Perhaps to instil doubt as to whether such a large and evil corporation would actually publish a web page as crap as this? Microsoft do a lot of stupid crap but I don't think you can blame this on them. I'm sure plenty will continue to do so though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not exactly a well researched or even factual story this , even for / .
A quick check of the domain registry [ networksolutions.com ] shows that the site is n't owned by either Microsoft or Asus .
In fact it appears to be some kind of ad agency , probably hired to increase sales of Asus equipment for a third party .
Do n't let me stop the conspiracy theories though .
I suppose the site is badly designed , looks awful and does n't actually do anything useful deliberately ?
Perhaps to instil doubt as to whether such a large and evil corporation would actually publish a web page as crap as this ?
Microsoft do a lot of stupid crap but I do n't think you can blame this on them .
I 'm sure plenty will continue to do so though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not exactly a well researched or even factual story this, even for /.
A quick check of the domain registry [networksolutions.com] shows that the site isn't owned by either Microsoft or Asus.
In fact it appears to be some kind of ad agency, probably hired to increase sales of Asus equipment for a third party.
Don't let me stop the conspiracy theories though.
I suppose the site is badly designed, looks awful and doesn't actually do anything useful deliberately?
Perhaps to instil doubt as to whether such a large and evil corporation would actually publish a web page as crap as this?
Microsoft do a lot of stupid crap but I don't think you can blame this on them.
I'm sure plenty will continue to do so though.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28127287</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>azgard</author>
	<datestamp>1243539120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't <b>can't</b> buy Linux. See?<br>
&nbsp;</p> </div><p>Fixed that for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it , those who do n't ca n't buy Linux .
See ?   Fixed that for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Those who want Windows on their netbook can buy it, those who don't can't buy Linux.
See?
  Fixed that for you.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121819</id>
	<title>Dear Linux fans,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...stop being such whiny cunts.</p><p>Love,<br>That percentage of the world that doesn't want to have to compile an OS and install a virtual box just to fucking play Half-Life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...stop being such whiny cunts.Love,That percentage of the world that does n't want to have to compile an OS and install a virtual box just to fucking play Half-Life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...stop being such whiny cunts.Love,That percentage of the world that doesn't want to have to compile an OS and install a virtual box just to fucking play Half-Life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125345</id>
	<title>Re:unfamiliar environment, major compatibility iss</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243532640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every environment starts out unfamiliar. What's important is how intuitive the User Interface is.</p><p>That said, Windows 7 is damn intuitive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every environment starts out unfamiliar .
What 's important is how intuitive the User Interface is.That said , Windows 7 is damn intuitive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every environment starts out unfamiliar.
What's important is how intuitive the User Interface is.That said, Windows 7 is damn intuitive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122041</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123653</id>
	<title>Win and Mac are the only game in town</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243525380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had Windows 7 RC installed on my EEEPC in under an hour and everything works out of the box.</p><p>Wireless, bluetooth, camera. No configuration needed, no drivers to download from message boards.</p><p>Average home user (most users) will NEVER use linux they will sooner go with a MAC.</p><p>Sorry guys, that's just how things are.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had Windows 7 RC installed on my EEEPC in under an hour and everything works out of the box.Wireless , bluetooth , camera .
No configuration needed , no drivers to download from message boards.Average home user ( most users ) will NEVER use linux they will sooner go with a MAC.Sorry guys , that 's just how things are .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had Windows 7 RC installed on my EEEPC in under an hour and everything works out of the box.Wireless, bluetooth, camera.
No configuration needed, no drivers to download from message boards.Average home user (most users) will NEVER use linux they will sooner go with a MAC.Sorry guys, that's just how things are.
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28125743</id>
	<title>The irony is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243534140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that there are more hardware incompatibilities and unfamiliar environments using Vista than Linux.</p><p>And who doesn't love using regedit to configure their system?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that there are more hardware incompatibilities and unfamiliar environments using Vista than Linux.And who does n't love using regedit to configure their system ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that there are more hardware incompatibilities and unfamiliar environments using Vista than Linux.And who doesn't love using regedit to configure their system?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123507</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1243524660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've got both at different points and, as should be bloody obvious to all, XP is slower on it simply because there is a lot more stuff going on in the background before you get to the applications you actually want to run.  The end user of the XP one only really had a day to play with it before a two month trip with it and they were only really familiar with XP (and wanted AutoCAD light on the thing).  Things run tolerably on it, MS Office at least runs and AutoCAD light really has no more functionality than the old version that used to run on a 386.  The earlier linux version with a slower CPU is a lot faster with Firefox and Openoffice since there's no crap running in the background trying to sense if it's time to unleash clippy on you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got both at different points and , as should be bloody obvious to all , XP is slower on it simply because there is a lot more stuff going on in the background before you get to the applications you actually want to run .
The end user of the XP one only really had a day to play with it before a two month trip with it and they were only really familiar with XP ( and wanted AutoCAD light on the thing ) .
Things run tolerably on it , MS Office at least runs and AutoCAD light really has no more functionality than the old version that used to run on a 386 .
The earlier linux version with a slower CPU is a lot faster with Firefox and Openoffice since there 's no crap running in the background trying to sense if it 's time to unleash clippy on you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got both at different points and, as should be bloody obvious to all, XP is slower on it simply because there is a lot more stuff going on in the background before you get to the applications you actually want to run.
The end user of the XP one only really had a day to play with it before a two month trip with it and they were only really familiar with XP (and wanted AutoCAD light on the thing).
Things run tolerably on it, MS Office at least runs and AutoCAD light really has no more functionality than the old version that used to run on a 386.
The earlier linux version with a slower CPU is a lot faster with Firefox and Openoffice since there's no crap running in the background trying to sense if it's time to unleash clippy on you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121813</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121861</id>
	<title>Re:I agree</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and a cup of coffee and a rocking chair just beside it, admiring the morning sun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and a cup of coffee and a rocking chair just beside it , admiring the morning sun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and a cup of coffee and a rocking chair just beside it, admiring the morning sun.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121735</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121949</id>
	<title>I will Continue to Buy Asus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because nothing is sweeter then fanboy tears.</p><p>-Calbrenar</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because nothing is sweeter then fanboy tears.-Calbrenar</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because nothing is sweeter then fanboy tears.-Calbrenar</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121829</id>
	<title>Flame War</title>
	<author>Crock23A</author>
	<datestamp>1243516260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Flame war in...
<br> <br>
3
<br> <br>
2
<br> <br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>......
<br> <br>
[beep]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flame war in.. . 3 2 ..... . [ beep ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flame war in...
 
3
 
2
  ......
 
[beep]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28134985</id>
	<title>Sloppy seconds...or 152ths...</title>
	<author>Yfrwlf</author>
	<datestamp>1243534260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They've already been fucking for a while now.  They were Microsoft's first and primary target to fight Linux encroaching on their turf, since the EEE PC is what largely started it all.  Yes yes there was/is OLPC, but I'm talking about the "normal" computer sales realm.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 've already been fucking for a while now .
They were Microsoft 's first and primary target to fight Linux encroaching on their turf , since the EEE PC is what largely started it all .
Yes yes there was/is OLPC , but I 'm talking about the " normal " computer sales realm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They've already been fucking for a while now.
They were Microsoft's first and primary target to fight Linux encroaching on their turf, since the EEE PC is what largely started it all.
Yes yes there was/is OLPC, but I'm talking about the "normal" computer sales realm.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28140587</id>
	<title>Linux version never worked wirelessly anyway!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243620900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I needed a cheap computer(=netbook) this past January while I was away from home for a month to be treated for cancer. The residence (Cancer Society's Hope Lodge) had 'public' computers and also wi-fi in every room. I bought an Asus EEE, had to \_pay extra\_ to get Linux - and what do you know, it would not connect to the network! No way, no how, no matter what I did.</p><p>I used the public computers extensively to read the appropriate forums and hey! many people had this problem, no one had solved it.</p><p>J$R took it back for a full refund after their test found that it saw the network but couldn't connect. I wouldn't accept the Windows version because at that point I doubted Asus's good faith.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I needed a cheap computer ( = netbook ) this past January while I was away from home for a month to be treated for cancer .
The residence ( Cancer Society 's Hope Lodge ) had 'public ' computers and also wi-fi in every room .
I bought an Asus EEE , had to \ _pay extra \ _ to get Linux - and what do you know , it would not connect to the network !
No way , no how , no matter what I did.I used the public computers extensively to read the appropriate forums and hey !
many people had this problem , no one had solved it.J $ R took it back for a full refund after their test found that it saw the network but could n't connect .
I would n't accept the Windows version because at that point I doubted Asus 's good faith .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I needed a cheap computer(=netbook) this past January while I was away from home for a month to be treated for cancer.
The residence (Cancer Society's Hope Lodge) had 'public' computers and also wi-fi in every room.
I bought an Asus EEE, had to \_pay extra\_ to get Linux - and what do you know, it would not connect to the network!
No way, no how, no matter what I did.I used the public computers extensively to read the appropriate forums and hey!
many people had this problem, no one had solved it.J$R took it back for a full refund after their test found that it saw the network but couldn't connect.
I wouldn't accept the Windows version because at that point I doubted Asus's good faith.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28140483</id>
	<title>NAAHH@#$\%^@#$\%^</title>
	<author>raw643</author>
	<datestamp>1243620300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Its Jesus on the cross all over again!!  T\_T</htmltext>
<tokenext>Its Jesus on the cross all over again ! !
T \ _T</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its Jesus on the cross all over again!!
T\_T</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122059</id>
	<title>it's not so much compatibility with whats in box</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1243517580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As compatibility with other stuff. On a windows netbook you can run the same software on your desktop (resources permitting of course but office should be fine as should quite a bit of internal and specialist software and some older games). Without too much messing arround you can use any cheapshit printer you pick up in a big chain, any mobile broadband dongle and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As compatibility with other stuff .
On a windows netbook you can run the same software on your desktop ( resources permitting of course but office should be fine as should quite a bit of internal and specialist software and some older games ) .
Without too much messing arround you can use any cheapshit printer you pick up in a big chain , any mobile broadband dongle and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As compatibility with other stuff.
On a windows netbook you can run the same software on your desktop (resources permitting of course but office should be fine as should quite a bit of internal and specialist software and some older games).
Without too much messing arround you can use any cheapshit printer you pick up in a big chain, any mobile broadband dongle and so on.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28128343</id>
	<title>Insightful?</title>
	<author>Petersko</author>
	<datestamp>1243542000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Meh. I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual."</i> <br> <br>

+5 Insightful. I feel sad for what this says about slashdot moderation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Meh .
I 'll just install linux over the windows install as usual .
" + 5 Insightful .
I feel sad for what this says about slashdot moderation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Meh.
I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.
"  

+5 Insightful.
I feel sad for what this says about slashdot moderation.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28135723</id>
	<title>Re:There's a problem here</title>
	<author>Kirth</author>
	<datestamp>1243629240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You sir, haven't ever worked with FreeBSD on a bigger scale. I'm Sysadmin for some hundreds of FreeBSD-Servers. And I wouldn't want to use FreeBSD for something like this ever again. I'd use Debian.</p><p>The first and second points of your post are completely irrelevant, as this depends solely on your taste, and furthermore, you can change it on Linux, respectively use several different interfaces.</p><p>The third however... I've never seen a so much fuck-upped packaging system as FreeBSD has, short of Solaris (and of course, there are some systems as windows, which have none at all). ESPECIALLY the totally bogus dependencies of FreeBSD.</p><p>And using the filesystem-structure, well, lets just mention that you can't build a FreeBSD-package without installing it. And you've got everything at least twice, including the "etc"-directory. Once where it should be, and once in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/local. There is nothing like a FSSTND</p><p>Want to know where libssl is? Well, it's in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/lib/ AND in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/local/lib/ AND there's an old version in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/.</p><p>Because, essentially, FreeBSD consists of a "base"-system which underlies no package-management, and a "ports"-system which offers some rudimentary package-management.</p><p>Some of the package-parameters may even be tweaked, either by using global variables in<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/etc/make.conf (you'll end up changing "WITHOUT\_X11" every so often, depending on what you want to compile), or -- but only if you build with portinstall --<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf. Some, like most options to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>./configure, may not be set, except if the package-manager has thought about it.</p><p>Summary: Gentoo is the better FreeBSD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You sir , have n't ever worked with FreeBSD on a bigger scale .
I 'm Sysadmin for some hundreds of FreeBSD-Servers .
And I would n't want to use FreeBSD for something like this ever again .
I 'd use Debian.The first and second points of your post are completely irrelevant , as this depends solely on your taste , and furthermore , you can change it on Linux , respectively use several different interfaces.The third however... I 've never seen a so much fuck-upped packaging system as FreeBSD has , short of Solaris ( and of course , there are some systems as windows , which have none at all ) .
ESPECIALLY the totally bogus dependencies of FreeBSD.And using the filesystem-structure , well , lets just mention that you ca n't build a FreeBSD-package without installing it .
And you 've got everything at least twice , including the " etc " -directory .
Once where it should be , and once in /usr/local .
There is nothing like a FSSTNDWant to know where libssl is ?
Well , it 's in /usr/lib/ AND in /usr/local/lib/ AND there 's an old version in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/.Because , essentially , FreeBSD consists of a " base " -system which underlies no package-management , and a " ports " -system which offers some rudimentary package-management.Some of the package-parameters may even be tweaked , either by using global variables in /etc/make.conf ( you 'll end up changing " WITHOUT \ _X11 " every so often , depending on what you want to compile ) , or -- but only if you build with portinstall -- /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf .
Some , like most options to ./configure , may not be set , except if the package-manager has thought about it.Summary : Gentoo is the better FreeBSD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You sir, haven't ever worked with FreeBSD on a bigger scale.
I'm Sysadmin for some hundreds of FreeBSD-Servers.
And I wouldn't want to use FreeBSD for something like this ever again.
I'd use Debian.The first and second points of your post are completely irrelevant, as this depends solely on your taste, and furthermore, you can change it on Linux, respectively use several different interfaces.The third however... I've never seen a so much fuck-upped packaging system as FreeBSD has, short of Solaris (and of course, there are some systems as windows, which have none at all).
ESPECIALLY the totally bogus dependencies of FreeBSD.And using the filesystem-structure, well, lets just mention that you can't build a FreeBSD-package without installing it.
And you've got everything at least twice, including the "etc"-directory.
Once where it should be, and once in /usr/local.
There is nothing like a FSSTNDWant to know where libssl is?
Well, it's in /usr/lib/ AND in /usr/local/lib/ AND there's an old version in /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg/.Because, essentially, FreeBSD consists of a "base"-system which underlies no package-management, and a "ports"-system which offers some rudimentary package-management.Some of the package-parameters may even be tweaked, either by using global variables in /etc/make.conf (you'll end up changing "WITHOUT\_X11" every so often, depending on what you want to compile), or -- but only if you build with portinstall -- /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf.
Some, like most options to ./configure, may not be set, except if the package-manager has thought about it.Summary: Gentoo is the better FreeBSD.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123081</id>
	<title>Lame site, and a bizarre video</title>
	<author>Renderer of Evil</author>
	<datestamp>1243522800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a really awkward ad and there is a guy at <a href="http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com/" title="itsbetterwithwindows.com">1:43</a> [itsbetterwithwindows.com] mark doing the nazi salute.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a really awkward ad and there is a guy at 1 : 43 [ itsbetterwithwindows.com ] mark doing the nazi salute .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a really awkward ad and there is a guy at 1:43 [itsbetterwithwindows.com] mark doing the nazi salute.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122033</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1243517400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><strong>Not exactly a well researched or even factual story this, even for<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.

A quick check of the domain registry    shows that the site isn't owned by either Microsoft or Asus. In fact it appears to be some kind of ad agency, probably hired to increase sales of Asus equipment for a third party.

Don't let me stop the conspiracy theories though. I suppose the site is badly designed, looks awful and doesn't actually do anything useful deliberately? Perhaps to instil doubt as to whether such a large and evil corpora</strong></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not exactly a well researched or even factual story this , even for / .
A quick check of the domain registry shows that the site is n't owned by either Microsoft or Asus .
In fact it appears to be some kind of ad agency , probably hired to increase sales of Asus equipment for a third party .
Do n't let me stop the conspiracy theories though .
I suppose the site is badly designed , looks awful and does n't actually do anything useful deliberately ?
Perhaps to instil doubt as to whether such a large and evil corpora</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not exactly a well researched or even factual story this, even for /.
A quick check of the domain registry    shows that the site isn't owned by either Microsoft or Asus.
In fact it appears to be some kind of ad agency, probably hired to increase sales of Asus equipment for a third party.
Don't let me stop the conspiracy theories though.
I suppose the site is badly designed, looks awful and doesn't actually do anything useful deliberately?
Perhaps to instil doubt as to whether such a large and evil corpora</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123351</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243524000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree with you about the OS preinstalled on the EEE.  I have a 4G Surf and I love it but I quickly realized that the OS had to go.  I immediately installed a variation of Ubuntu(EEEbuntu) and was somewhat pleased.  Then I installed XP and scaled it down but it just didn't seem suitable for me.  So finally I installed regular Ubuntu and just slimmed it down a lot.  That proved to be the best for me.  At one point I loaded Compiz Fusion and everything.</p><p>Anyway, I think that a slim version of Ubuntu would be so cool to come preinstalled to the EEEpcs but again its all about $$$.  Thanks Bill<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree with you about the OS preinstalled on the EEE .
I have a 4G Surf and I love it but I quickly realized that the OS had to go .
I immediately installed a variation of Ubuntu ( EEEbuntu ) and was somewhat pleased .
Then I installed XP and scaled it down but it just did n't seem suitable for me .
So finally I installed regular Ubuntu and just slimmed it down a lot .
That proved to be the best for me .
At one point I loaded Compiz Fusion and everything.Anyway , I think that a slim version of Ubuntu would be so cool to come preinstalled to the EEEpcs but again its all about $ $ $ .
Thanks Bill : D : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree with you about the OS preinstalled on the EEE.
I have a 4G Surf and I love it but I quickly realized that the OS had to go.
I immediately installed a variation of Ubuntu(EEEbuntu) and was somewhat pleased.
Then I installed XP and scaled it down but it just didn't seem suitable for me.
So finally I installed regular Ubuntu and just slimmed it down a lot.
That proved to be the best for me.
At one point I loaded Compiz Fusion and everything.Anyway, I think that a slim version of Ubuntu would be so cool to come preinstalled to the EEEpcs but again its all about $$$.
Thanks Bill :D :(</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122737</id>
	<title>That's okay; who needs Asus?</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1243521180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With <a href="http://www.dell.com/home/netbooks" title="dell.com">other options out there shipping with ubuntu</a> [dell.com], who needs Asus?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With other options out there shipping with ubuntu [ dell.com ] , who needs Asus ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With other options out there shipping with ubuntu [dell.com], who needs Asus?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28129233</id>
	<title>Why not look at the REAL Asus site?</title>
	<author>catman</author>
	<datestamp>1243501500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As many have said, the REAL site is uk.asus.com. <br>

Go there and look for the Seashell product.<br>
 <a href="http://uk.asus.com/news\_show.aspx?id=15908" title="asus.com">http://uk.asus.com/news\_show.aspx?id=15908</a> [asus.com]
<p>
It clearly advertises GNU/Linux as an option.
</p><p> Copy &amp; paste: <br>

Go Anywhere in Style with Eee PC&#226; Seashell 1008HA<br>
Display 	10" LED-backlit WSVGA Screen (1024x600 pixels) with Color-Shine (Glare-type)<br>
Operating System 	Genuine Windows&#194;&#174; XP&#226; Home
GNU Linux
Processor 	Intel&#194;&#174; Atom&#226; N280
Default Memory 	1GB DDR2 SO-DIMM</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As many have said , the REAL site is uk.asus.com .
Go there and look for the Seashell product .
http : //uk.asus.com/news \ _show.aspx ? id = 15908 [ asus.com ] It clearly advertises GNU/Linux as an option .
Copy &amp; paste : Go Anywhere in Style with Eee PC   Seashell 1008HA Display 10 " LED-backlit WSVGA Screen ( 1024x600 pixels ) with Color-Shine ( Glare-type ) Operating System Genuine Windows     XP   Home GNU Linux Processor Intel     Atom   N280 Default Memory 1GB DDR2 SO-DIMM</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As many have said, the REAL site is uk.asus.com.
Go there and look for the Seashell product.
http://uk.asus.com/news\_show.aspx?id=15908 [asus.com]

It clearly advertises GNU/Linux as an option.
Copy &amp; paste: 

Go Anywhere in Style with Eee PCâ Seashell 1008HA
Display 	10" LED-backlit WSVGA Screen (1024x600 pixels) with Color-Shine (Glare-type)
Operating System 	Genuine WindowsÂ® XPâ Home
GNU Linux
Processor 	IntelÂ® Atomâ N280
Default Memory 	1GB DDR2 SO-DIMM</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28132911</id>
	<title>Re:There's a problem here</title>
	<author>McDutchie</author>
	<datestamp>1243518240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe that the Linux distribution you are describing is called Slackware.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe that the Linux distribution you are describing is called Slackware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that the Linux distribution you are describing is called Slackware.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28127221</id>
	<title>Missing the point</title>
	<author>jmorris42</author>
	<datestamp>1243538940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond.</p><p>Everyone is missing the point.  If this one turns out to be a troll/trial balloon the next one won't.  Reason?  ASUS is departing the 'netbook' market as fast as they can do it and avoid anyone noticing.... sorta.  Netbooks are small, inexpenensive, flash based, net centric devices.  Now go look at ASUS's EeePC line and tell me how many of their recent offerings fit that description.  $500 small laptops are going to ship with Windows, its just the way the monopoly works and ASUS has been in the game long enough they understand that.  But since the term 'netbook' has a hotness associated with it they want to prevent most customers from realizing the bait-n-switch that is happening.</p><p>Why are they doing this, since they created the netbook in the first place?  Several reasons.  $500 SKUs have more profit in them than $300 ones, so follow the money right off.  Second they have a very long term established relationship with Intel that will prevent them from being one of the first ARM vendors and they are smart enough to realize that once those ship the sub $350 space will go almost 100\% ARM+Linux or ARM+CE and to compete there they would have to throw Intel under the bus.  Finally, look at their contract manufacturing division (Pegatron) which is ramping up cheap ARM netbooks under a variety of badges that don't say ASUS as we speak.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond.Everyone is missing the point .
If this one turns out to be a troll/trial balloon the next one wo n't .
Reason ? ASUS is departing the 'netbook ' market as fast as they can do it and avoid anyone noticing.... sorta. Netbooks are small , inexpenensive , flash based , net centric devices .
Now go look at ASUS 's EeePC line and tell me how many of their recent offerings fit that description .
$ 500 small laptops are going to ship with Windows , its just the way the monopoly works and ASUS has been in the game long enough they understand that .
But since the term 'netbook ' has a hotness associated with it they want to prevent most customers from realizing the bait-n-switch that is happening.Why are they doing this , since they created the netbook in the first place ?
Several reasons .
$ 500 SKUs have more profit in them than $ 300 ones , so follow the money right off .
Second they have a very long term established relationship with Intel that will prevent them from being one of the first ARM vendors and they are smart enough to realize that once those ship the sub $ 350 space will go almost 100 \ % ARM + Linux or ARM + CE and to compete there they would have to throw Intel under the bus .
Finally , look at their contract manufacturing division ( Pegatron ) which is ramping up cheap ARM netbooks under a variety of badges that do n't say ASUS as we speak .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond.Everyone is missing the point.
If this one turns out to be a troll/trial balloon the next one won't.
Reason?  ASUS is departing the 'netbook' market as fast as they can do it and avoid anyone noticing.... sorta.  Netbooks are small, inexpenensive, flash based, net centric devices.
Now go look at ASUS's EeePC line and tell me how many of their recent offerings fit that description.
$500 small laptops are going to ship with Windows, its just the way the monopoly works and ASUS has been in the game long enough they understand that.
But since the term 'netbook' has a hotness associated with it they want to prevent most customers from realizing the bait-n-switch that is happening.Why are they doing this, since they created the netbook in the first place?
Several reasons.
$500 SKUs have more profit in them than $300 ones, so follow the money right off.
Second they have a very long term established relationship with Intel that will prevent them from being one of the first ARM vendors and they are smart enough to realize that once those ship the sub $350 space will go almost 100\% ARM+Linux or ARM+CE and to compete there they would have to throw Intel under the bus.
Finally, look at their contract manufacturing division (Pegatron) which is ramping up cheap ARM netbooks under a variety of badges that don't say ASUS as we speak.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123181</id>
	<title>Re:Asus screwed up</title>
	<author>jekewa</author>
	<datestamp>1243523220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Sadly, this is the norm I run into, and far too oft from people who are strongly OS-aligned; they can't keep their computer from breaking no matter what they run.
</p><p>
Some of us forget, computers are hard... Especially for the untrained. We didn't get "Computer Fun" degrees, after all. Although, that would be pretty sweet!
</p><p>
Too many people expect a "toaster" or "television" experience from a rather complicated piece of equipment. Heck, some of the folk I help with PC issues have toaster and television issues!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sadly , this is the norm I run into , and far too oft from people who are strongly OS-aligned ; they ca n't keep their computer from breaking no matter what they run .
Some of us forget , computers are hard... Especially for the untrained .
We did n't get " Computer Fun " degrees , after all .
Although , that would be pretty sweet !
Too many people expect a " toaster " or " television " experience from a rather complicated piece of equipment .
Heck , some of the folk I help with PC issues have toaster and television issues !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Sadly, this is the norm I run into, and far too oft from people who are strongly OS-aligned; they can't keep their computer from breaking no matter what they run.
Some of us forget, computers are hard... Especially for the untrained.
We didn't get "Computer Fun" degrees, after all.
Although, that would be pretty sweet!
Too many people expect a "toaster" or "television" experience from a rather complicated piece of equipment.
Heck, some of the folk I help with PC issues have toaster and television issues!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122563</id>
	<title>Remeber "wehavethewayout"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243520340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That was a dodgy MS/Unisys website stunt (directed at Solaris, whose customers needed no reminders about their strategic options).  While touting the virtues of Windows, the site was actually running on a Unix/Apache box.</p><p>At least this time <a href="http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site\_report?url=http://www.itsbetterwithwindows.com" title="netcraft.com" rel="nofollow">they actually used a Windows/IIS server.</a> [netcraft.com]</p><p>The whole thing traces back to Washington, which means the stench of MS marketing is in the air.</p><p>You would think they would learn from the parody websites that sprang up from the "wehavethewayout" debacle, but those marketing guys are slow learners.</p><p>Somebody really needs to tell MS marketing that the PC guy in the Apple commercials is NOT some kind of Steve Ballmer brainchild that should be emulated. You would think that a company that has a marketing budget like MS would learn to stop shooting itself in the foot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That was a dodgy MS/Unisys website stunt ( directed at Solaris , whose customers needed no reminders about their strategic options ) .
While touting the virtues of Windows , the site was actually running on a Unix/Apache box.At least this time they actually used a Windows/IIS server .
[ netcraft.com ] The whole thing traces back to Washington , which means the stench of MS marketing is in the air.You would think they would learn from the parody websites that sprang up from the " wehavethewayout " debacle , but those marketing guys are slow learners.Somebody really needs to tell MS marketing that the PC guy in the Apple commercials is NOT some kind of Steve Ballmer brainchild that should be emulated .
You would think that a company that has a marketing budget like MS would learn to stop shooting itself in the foot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was a dodgy MS/Unisys website stunt (directed at Solaris, whose customers needed no reminders about their strategic options).
While touting the virtues of Windows, the site was actually running on a Unix/Apache box.At least this time they actually used a Windows/IIS server.
[netcraft.com]The whole thing traces back to Washington, which means the stench of MS marketing is in the air.You would think they would learn from the parody websites that sprang up from the "wehavethewayout" debacle, but those marketing guys are slow learners.Somebody really needs to tell MS marketing that the PC guy in the Apple commercials is NOT some kind of Steve Ballmer brainchild that should be emulated.
You would think that a company that has a marketing budget like MS would learn to stop shooting itself in the foot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28133213</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243519800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My friend with an Eee just uses normal Ubunutu with the Eee kernel and it works great (he uses epiphany).</p><p>If Flash really is causing the problem as the sibling post suggests, you could just use a secondary browser for when you need Flash and avoid it otherwise. I am not sure how to set this up other than reinstalling Flash before opening the secondary browser and uninstalling it when you are done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My friend with an Eee just uses normal Ubunutu with the Eee kernel and it works great ( he uses epiphany ) .If Flash really is causing the problem as the sibling post suggests , you could just use a secondary browser for when you need Flash and avoid it otherwise .
I am not sure how to set this up other than reinstalling Flash before opening the secondary browser and uninstalling it when you are done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My friend with an Eee just uses normal Ubunutu with the Eee kernel and it works great (he uses epiphany).If Flash really is causing the problem as the sibling post suggests, you could just use a secondary browser for when you need Flash and avoid it otherwise.
I am not sure how to set this up other than reinstalling Flash before opening the secondary browser and uninstalling it when you are done.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122287</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28128955</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243543740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow, Why is everyone upset? Up until last year I have used every version of Windows since day one, and now use Linux on my desktop and Aspire one. I think it great that someone out there is worried enough to post anything anti-Linux. Linux is stepping on some toes!!! Bring it on! Being a seasoned, and I mean seasoned user of MS products since the days of DOS, I can do anything in Linux that I would be doing in windows. Gee, I'm just as old as Bill Gates, that is scary!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , Why is everyone upset ?
Up until last year I have used every version of Windows since day one , and now use Linux on my desktop and Aspire one .
I think it great that someone out there is worried enough to post anything anti-Linux .
Linux is stepping on some toes ! ! !
Bring it on !
Being a seasoned , and I mean seasoned user of MS products since the days of DOS , I can do anything in Linux that I would be doing in windows .
Gee , I 'm just as old as Bill Gates , that is scary !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, Why is everyone upset?
Up until last year I have used every version of Windows since day one, and now use Linux on my desktop and Aspire one.
I think it great that someone out there is worried enough to post anything anti-Linux.
Linux is stepping on some toes!!!
Bring it on!
Being a seasoned, and I mean seasoned user of MS products since the days of DOS, I can do anything in Linux that I would be doing in windows.
Gee, I'm just as old as Bill Gates, that is scary!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28126491</id>
	<title>Windows vs linux</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1243536720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One thing thats fun with laptops without a cd drive. You can install linux on them with a usb stick but you can't install windows (you can for windows 7). XP is a bitch I mean really horrible to install without a cd drive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing thats fun with laptops without a cd drive .
You can install linux on them with a usb stick but you ca n't install windows ( you can for windows 7 ) .
XP is a bitch I mean really horrible to install without a cd drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing thats fun with laptops without a cd drive.
You can install linux on them with a usb stick but you can't install windows (you can for windows 7).
XP is a bitch I mean really horrible to install without a cd drive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121733</id>
	<title>How much money changed hands?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243515720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond. I wonder how much MS paid for this special treatment, or did they threaten Asus with higher prices?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond .
I wonder how much MS paid for this special treatment , or did they threaten Asus with higher prices ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is difficult to believe that Asus did this out of love for Redmond.
I wonder how much MS paid for this special treatment, or did they threaten Asus with higher prices?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122509</id>
	<title>My Experience with the hardware</title>
	<author>scubamage</author>
	<datestamp>1243520100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've worked on an asus netbook running windows once. The proprietary interface was nightmarish, and it took me about 20 minutes to even find a terminal window. Trying to get a printer installed was a joke - especially considering that these machines were marketed to the "browse the web and check email only" crowd, I can't blame them for moving to windows. It sucks, but I have to be fair. If you're going to put on a linux distro and expect the doubleclickers of the world to like it, make sure its easy, and it 'just works.' No finding drivers, no anything special. Just work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've worked on an asus netbook running windows once .
The proprietary interface was nightmarish , and it took me about 20 minutes to even find a terminal window .
Trying to get a printer installed was a joke - especially considering that these machines were marketed to the " browse the web and check email only " crowd , I ca n't blame them for moving to windows .
It sucks , but I have to be fair .
If you 're going to put on a linux distro and expect the doubleclickers of the world to like it , make sure its easy , and it 'just works .
' No finding drivers , no anything special .
Just work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've worked on an asus netbook running windows once.
The proprietary interface was nightmarish, and it took me about 20 minutes to even find a terminal window.
Trying to get a printer installed was a joke - especially considering that these machines were marketed to the "browse the web and check email only" crowd, I can't blame them for moving to windows.
It sucks, but I have to be fair.
If you're going to put on a linux distro and expect the doubleclickers of the world to like it, make sure its easy, and it 'just works.
' No finding drivers, no anything special.
Just work.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28126697</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>GMThomas</author>
	<datestamp>1243537380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try the eeebuntu distro.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try the eeebuntu distro .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try the eeebuntu distro.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122287</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28130757</id>
	<title>How Amusing</title>
	<author>u-235-sentinel</author>
	<datestamp>1243507620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Especially since I just replaced my last Windows XP desktop running on my wife's computer last week.  She's sick and tired of Windows issues that she asked what's Linux like?</p><p>She's in multi boot right now in case she needs anything and I showed her how to access her windows partition for files she's missing.  In a few weeks we're flattening the Windows partition and we're done.</p><p>Sorry charlie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Especially since I just replaced my last Windows XP desktop running on my wife 's computer last week .
She 's sick and tired of Windows issues that she asked what 's Linux like ? She 's in multi boot right now in case she needs anything and I showed her how to access her windows partition for files she 's missing .
In a few weeks we 're flattening the Windows partition and we 're done.Sorry charlie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Especially since I just replaced my last Windows XP desktop running on my wife's computer last week.
She's sick and tired of Windows issues that she asked what's Linux like?She's in multi boot right now in case she needs anything and I showed her how to access her windows partition for files she's missing.
In a few weeks we're flattening the Windows partition and we're done.Sorry charlie.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122847</id>
	<title>Re:Dear Linux fans,</title>
	<author>Keyper7</author>
	<datestamp>1243521720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dear percentage of the world that doesn't want to compile an OS,<br>
<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...that Gentoo user was screwing with you.<br>
<br>
Love,<br>
that <i>high</i> percentage of Linux users who never had to compile anything.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear percentage of the world that does n't want to compile an OS , ...that Gentoo user was screwing with you .
Love , that high percentage of Linux users who never had to compile anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear percentage of the world that doesn't want to compile an OS,
 ...that Gentoo user was screwing with you.
Love,
that high percentage of Linux users who never had to compile anything.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121819</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121843</id>
	<title>didnt they do this from the beginning?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243516320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the two versions were never alike.<br>Linux was always heavily locked down ( I was told by the sales assistant) to prevent poeple from messing it up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the two versions were never alike.Linux was always heavily locked down ( I was told by the sales assistant ) to prevent poeple from messing it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the two versions were never alike.Linux was always heavily locked down ( I was told by the sales assistant) to prevent poeple from messing it up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123169</id>
	<title>Of course it works better with Windows</title>
	<author>the\_B0fh</author>
	<datestamp>1243523160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you pay me shitloads of $$, I'd say that all day long too.  I'm quite sure whatever Microsoft is paying Asus is &gt; $$ spent on developing/porting linux for the EE</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you pay me shitloads of $ $ , I 'd say that all day long too .
I 'm quite sure whatever Microsoft is paying Asus is &gt; $ $ spent on developing/porting linux for the EE</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you pay me shitloads of $$, I'd say that all day long too.
I'm quite sure whatever Microsoft is paying Asus is &gt; $$ spent on developing/porting linux for the EE</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124335</id>
	<title>Re:Meh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243528320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Meh. I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.</p></div><p>The point is you're still paying Redmond, even if you install Linux...</p><p>I think everyone should give me a couple hundred bucks every time they buy a PC, heck any consumer electronics...</p><p>=O)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh .
I 'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.The point is you 're still paying Redmond , even if you install Linux...I think everyone should give me a couple hundred bucks every time they buy a PC , heck any consumer electronics... = O )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh.
I'll just install linux over the windows install as usual.The point is you're still paying Redmond, even if you install Linux...I think everyone should give me a couple hundred bucks every time they buy a PC, heck any consumer electronics...=O)
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121715</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28128315</id>
	<title>The simple things</title>
	<author>pengudeus</author>
	<datestamp>1243541940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did anyone notice the "All rights Reserves" at the bottom of the page?  You'd think Microsoft or ASUS would proofread their sites.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did anyone notice the " All rights Reserves " at the bottom of the page ?
You 'd think Microsoft or ASUS would proofread their sites .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did anyone notice the "All rights Reserves" at the bottom of the page?
You'd think Microsoft or ASUS would proofread their sites.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123555</id>
	<title>Linux users MADE the eee PC</title>
	<author>Russ Nelson</author>
	<datestamp>1243524900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Asus is screwing up here.  They seem not to realize that the eee PC is a success only because of the attention it got because it ran Linux.  By getting into bed with Microsoft, they're just creating an opening for another hungry Taiwanese to make a Linux netbook.</p><p>Anybody here speak Chinese?  And/or live in Taiwan?  Help us find that vendor.  Get them to give us the specs for their (as yet unbuilt) machine, we'll adapt Ubuntu to it, they don't need to worry about software, we'll have nice hardware with good Linux support.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Asus is screwing up here .
They seem not to realize that the eee PC is a success only because of the attention it got because it ran Linux .
By getting into bed with Microsoft , they 're just creating an opening for another hungry Taiwanese to make a Linux netbook.Anybody here speak Chinese ?
And/or live in Taiwan ?
Help us find that vendor .
Get them to give us the specs for their ( as yet unbuilt ) machine , we 'll adapt Ubuntu to it , they do n't need to worry about software , we 'll have nice hardware with good Linux support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Asus is screwing up here.
They seem not to realize that the eee PC is a success only because of the attention it got because it ran Linux.
By getting into bed with Microsoft, they're just creating an opening for another hungry Taiwanese to make a Linux netbook.Anybody here speak Chinese?
And/or live in Taiwan?
Help us find that vendor.
Get them to give us the specs for their (as yet unbuilt) machine, we'll adapt Ubuntu to it, they don't need to worry about software, we'll have nice hardware with good Linux support.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122675</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>Late Adopter</author>
	<datestamp>1243520880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So, what you're saying is that it's NOT necessarily better with Windows?  That it's up to each individual to decide what's right for them?
<br> <br>
I'm sure glad Asus isn't making such a claim.  Oh wait.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So , what you 're saying is that it 's NOT necessarily better with Windows ?
That it 's up to each individual to decide what 's right for them ?
I 'm sure glad Asus is n't making such a claim .
Oh wait .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, what you're saying is that it's NOT necessarily better with Windows?
That it's up to each individual to decide what's right for them?
I'm sure glad Asus isn't making such a claim.
Oh wait.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28122427</id>
	<title>Re:US Fanboys are still archaic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243519680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do please point out where I can get one in Europe, it's almost not available here, all the ones I want are only sold in the US (with no shipping options for Europe, and contacting the manufacturer to see if I can get it anyways only leads to silly links pointing me to windows only options which they do offer.)<br>Getting a Windows refund here is in most cases not possible either, and I don't want to pay for something that I'm not going to use on that machine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do please point out where I can get one in Europe , it 's almost not available here , all the ones I want are only sold in the US ( with no shipping options for Europe , and contacting the manufacturer to see if I can get it anyways only leads to silly links pointing me to windows only options which they do offer .
) Getting a Windows refund here is in most cases not possible either , and I do n't want to pay for something that I 'm not going to use on that machine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do please point out where I can get one in Europe, it's almost not available here, all the ones I want are only sold in the US (with no shipping options for Europe, and contacting the manufacturer to see if I can get it anyways only leads to silly links pointing me to windows only options which they do offer.
)Getting a Windows refund here is in most cases not possible either, and I don't want to pay for something that I'm not going to use on that machine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121825</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28165129</id>
	<title>asus sucks</title>
	<author>rik75</author>
	<datestamp>1243888920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>iv just bought an asus 901 + linux, particularly cause linux seemed to work well with it. its a real shame asus has caved into MS
in this pathetic way, still it doesn't suprise me, i will still continue to use linux on the eeepc 901 and recommend it all my friends and family.</htmltext>
<tokenext>iv just bought an asus 901 + linux , particularly cause linux seemed to work well with it .
its a real shame asus has caved into MS in this pathetic way , still it does n't suprise me , i will still continue to use linux on the eeepc 901 and recommend it all my friends and family .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iv just bought an asus 901 + linux, particularly cause linux seemed to work well with it.
its a real shame asus has caved into MS
in this pathetic way, still it doesn't suprise me, i will still continue to use linux on the eeepc 901 and recommend it all my friends and family.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28123019</id>
	<title>Blast this piece of shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1243522440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nuke this propaganda website</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nuke this propaganda website</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nuke this propaganda website</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124611</id>
	<title>Re:Now I'm definitely going to buy one!</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1243529400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Just so that I can cost the bastards some money by demanding a Windows Refund on it.</i></p><p>Mmm-hmm...  So which do you think costs them more money?</p><p>Them manufacturing an EEE PC, selling it to you, but then having to refund the cost of windows?  They surely have thin margins, so this might push their net on that machine into the red...</p><p>Or them manufacturing an EEE PC, and <i>not selling it</i> and thus going in the red to the tune of the full cost of manufacturing?</p><p>Yeah this is just not a viable strategy.  If you <i>want</i> this model of EEE PC with Linux on it, buy one, install Linux and demand your Windows Tax refund to make a statement/cost them some money for being dumb about not giving you Linux to begin with.  But don't do it for the sake of punishing them, it's not going to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just so that I can cost the bastards some money by demanding a Windows Refund on it.Mmm-hmm... So which do you think costs them more money ? Them manufacturing an EEE PC , selling it to you , but then having to refund the cost of windows ?
They surely have thin margins , so this might push their net on that machine into the red...Or them manufacturing an EEE PC , and not selling it and thus going in the red to the tune of the full cost of manufacturing ? Yeah this is just not a viable strategy .
If you want this model of EEE PC with Linux on it , buy one , install Linux and demand your Windows Tax refund to make a statement/cost them some money for being dumb about not giving you Linux to begin with .
But do n't do it for the sake of punishing them , it 's not going to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just so that I can cost the bastards some money by demanding a Windows Refund on it.Mmm-hmm...  So which do you think costs them more money?Them manufacturing an EEE PC, selling it to you, but then having to refund the cost of windows?
They surely have thin margins, so this might push their net on that machine into the red...Or them manufacturing an EEE PC, and not selling it and thus going in the red to the tune of the full cost of manufacturing?Yeah this is just not a viable strategy.
If you want this model of EEE PC with Linux on it, buy one, install Linux and demand your Windows Tax refund to make a statement/cost them some money for being dumb about not giving you Linux to begin with.
But don't do it for the sake of punishing them, it's not going to work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28121793</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment09_05_28_0321251.28124151</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't plan on buying another Asus EEE anyway</title>
	<author>Prof.Phreak</author>
	<datestamp>1243527720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I got my EeePC a day after it first came out, and... I won't be buying another one for a while. Not because of the OS (Ubuntu runs so much better on EeePC than whatever crap Asus shipped), but because of keyboard. The right shift key is on top of the up-arrow key!</p><p>I was looking for a netbook recently, went around stores to try out typing on different ones, and it seems that outside of a few manufacturers (Samsumg and HP) all the netbooks [even the new ones from Asus!] suffer from the same broken keyboard design [and manufacturers that have `ok' keyboards suck in some other ways]. So... I'll stick with my overpriced and fragile Thinkpad X running Ubuntu for the time being.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I got my EeePC a day after it first came out , and... I wo n't be buying another one for a while .
Not because of the OS ( Ubuntu runs so much better on EeePC than whatever crap Asus shipped ) , but because of keyboard .
The right shift key is on top of the up-arrow key ! I was looking for a netbook recently , went around stores to try out typing on different ones , and it seems that outside of a few manufacturers ( Samsumg and HP ) all the netbooks [ even the new ones from Asus !
] suffer from the same broken keyboard design [ and manufacturers that have ` ok ' keyboards suck in some other ways ] .
So... I 'll stick with my overpriced and fragile Thinkpad X running Ubuntu for the time being .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got my EeePC a day after it first came out, and... I won't be buying another one for a while.
Not because of the OS (Ubuntu runs so much better on EeePC than whatever crap Asus shipped), but because of keyboard.
The right shift key is on top of the up-arrow key!I was looking for a netbook recently, went around stores to try out typing on different ones, and it seems that outside of a few manufacturers (Samsumg and HP) all the netbooks [even the new ones from Asus!
] suffer from the same broken keyboard design [and manufacturers that have `ok' keyboards suck in some other ways].
So... I'll stick with my overpriced and fragile Thinkpad X running Ubuntu for the time being.</sentencetext>
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