<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_30_1516247</id>
	<title>Will Australia Follow China's Google Ban?</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1269965100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>gadgetopia writes <i>"A news report in Forbes says that China has blocked Google with its great firewall; now the world waits to see if Australia's Minister for Censorship, Senator Stephen Conroy, <a href="http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/government-tech-policy/37999">will do the same</a> following his outrageous <a href="http://www.itwire.com/it-policy-news/government-tech-policy/37994-captain-conroy-internet-enforcer-slams-google">attacks on Google</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>gadgetopia writes " A news report in Forbes says that China has blocked Google with its great firewall ; now the world waits to see if Australia 's Minister for Censorship , Senator Stephen Conroy , will do the same following his outrageous attacks on Google .
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<sentencetext>gadgetopia writes "A news report in Forbes says that China has blocked Google with its great firewall; now the world waits to see if Australia's Minister for Censorship, Senator Stephen Conroy, will do the same following his outrageous attacks on Google.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673742</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269973260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That would be to ignore everything that happened before WWII.  He did not end up in power because he was brutal.  He ended up in power because the people of Germany LET him be there.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World\_War\_I" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World\_War\_I</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Many historians consider World War II to be the continuation of World War I.  Everyone just was worn out after 1 and just decided to call it off for a bit.  The reasons for WWI were not resolved.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That would be to ignore everything that happened before WWII .
He did not end up in power because he was brutal .
He ended up in power because the people of Germany LET him be there.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World \ _War \ _I [ wikipedia.org ] Many historians consider World War II to be the continuation of World War I. Everyone just was worn out after 1 and just decided to call it off for a bit .
The reasons for WWI were not resolved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would be to ignore everything that happened before WWII.
He did not end up in power because he was brutal.
He ended up in power because the people of Germany LET him be there.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World\_War\_I [wikipedia.org]Many historians consider World War II to be the continuation of World War I.  Everyone just was worn out after 1 and just decided to call it off for a bit.
The reasons for WWI were not resolved.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674080</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>10101001 10101001</author>
	<datestamp>1269974280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly [insert company who off-shored work to China]'s don't respect a country's right to manage their own laws. If I ran a country, and enacted some laws, and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my country, yeah I'd ban them, of course.</p><p>A country's laws, and culture, are their own to set, and not to be controlled by any outside nation. Sure we'll make exceptions for real human rights like food and water and torture. But censorship of illegal material and such doesn't come anywhere close.</p><p>*Of course, the nice irony is of course that China has a horrible record when it comes to "real" human rights--as if there were fake human rights.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly [ insert company who off-shored work to China ] 's do n't respect a country 's right to manage their own laws .
If I ran a country , and enacted some laws , and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my country , yeah I 'd ban them , of course.A country 's laws , and culture , are their own to set , and not to be controlled by any outside nation .
Sure we 'll make exceptions for real human rights like food and water and torture .
But censorship of illegal material and such does n't come anywhere close .
* Of course , the nice irony is of course that China has a horrible record when it comes to " real " human rights--as if there were fake human rights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly [insert company who off-shored work to China]'s don't respect a country's right to manage their own laws.
If I ran a country, and enacted some laws, and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my country, yeah I'd ban them, of course.A country's laws, and culture, are their own to set, and not to be controlled by any outside nation.
Sure we'll make exceptions for real human rights like food and water and torture.
But censorship of illegal material and such doesn't come anywhere close.
*Of course, the nice irony is of course that China has a horrible record when it comes to "real" human rights--as if there were fake human rights.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674430</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>frog\_strat</author>
	<datestamp>1269975540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Tea Partiers are right when they say power corrupts and we should be wary of it concentrating too much in the govt.  But why are they blind to the same thing happening with corporations ?  It is just as bad or worse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Tea Partiers are right when they say power corrupts and we should be wary of it concentrating too much in the govt .
But why are they blind to the same thing happening with corporations ?
It is just as bad or worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Tea Partiers are right when they say power corrupts and we should be wary of it concentrating too much in the govt.
But why are they blind to the same thing happening with corporations ?
It is just as bad or worse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672664</id>
	<title>Re:In the name of the Greatest US President ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269969840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>no, "The Buck Stops Here"!</htmltext>
<tokenext>no , " The Buck Stops Here " !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no, "The Buck Stops Here"!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31681446</id>
	<title>F.U.D</title>
	<author>SJ2000</author>
	<datestamp>1269961140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stop being so dramatic, that's not going to happen just because Conroy disagrees with them and said some barely nasty words.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stop being so dramatic , that 's not going to happen just because Conroy disagrees with them and said some barely nasty words .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stop being so dramatic, that's not going to happen just because Conroy disagrees with them and said some barely nasty words.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31684830</id>
	<title>um...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270031700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh, guys, I can still access google in china.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , guys , I can still access google in china .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, guys, I can still access google in china.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31675336</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>WNight</author>
	<datestamp>1269979500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1. the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scale</p></div><p>Seems like that's the intent and they'll just keep throwing parties till it works. The demonizing of their opponents fits.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>2. intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods [...]</p></div><p>Now who's an intolerant deluded propagandized fool? Not every believer in the purpose of the 2nd amendment lives in the woods, or hordes guns (one is enough).</p><p><div class="quote"><p>[...] are the seeds of fascism, NOT our protectors from fascism</p></div><p>If you see them as your protectors you're undoubtedly wrong, yes...</p><p>But I wonder why you see neighbors with the power to defend themselves as a threat? I know many hunters and treat them just like non-hunters. Most people I know have access to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George\_Russell\_Weller" title="wikipedia.org">a car</a> [wikipedia.org]. Most people have a house full of knives.</p><p>Personally I see a homogeneous mixture of diverse people and opinions, all individually and collectively armed, against any threat foreign, domestic, or personal, as the best way to lasting peace and safety. Fear and dependence breeds war - strength builds trust and trade.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>3. we need strong government regulation in the financial sector, and the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility</p></div><p>More, or less. It's partly because we're forced to use government currency via licensed banks that we have these problems in the first place. Rational investors avoided all the problems the economy has seen, from the 90s tech stocks to real-estate and repackaged debt. Warren Buffet sails through this "crisis" hardly noticing anything and the common people are the victims because they deal in government currency which is based on banking games.</p><p>The real damage comes, still government inflicted, during the rebuilding, where the most damaging institutions are given all the newly printed money and the sectors of the economy that were functioning are kicked in the teeth, left with a diluted currency as the only payback for their honesty.</p><p>Ideally the government would offer bailouts at one level only - welfare to individuals. Then let the financial market do what it will, if you choose to believe there's value in being fifth in line on a bundle of defaulting mortgages, more power to you.</p><p>Instead of having to trust government inspectors, no-doubt lazy unionized layabouts with unclear credentials, I want to hire third-party auditors of my choice and merely have the government provide small and solid base of law to enforce this relationship.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1. the angry tea partiers , with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger , IS kristallnacht , on a smaller scaleSeems like that 's the intent and they 'll just keep throwing parties till it works .
The demonizing of their opponents fits.2 .
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods [ ... ] Now who 's an intolerant deluded propagandized fool ?
Not every believer in the purpose of the 2nd amendment lives in the woods , or hordes guns ( one is enough ) . [ .. .
] are the seeds of fascism , NOT our protectors from fascismIf you see them as your protectors you 're undoubtedly wrong , yes...But I wonder why you see neighbors with the power to defend themselves as a threat ?
I know many hunters and treat them just like non-hunters .
Most people I know have access to a car [ wikipedia.org ] .
Most people have a house full of knives.Personally I see a homogeneous mixture of diverse people and opinions , all individually and collectively armed , against any threat foreign , domestic , or personal , as the best way to lasting peace and safety .
Fear and dependence breeds war - strength builds trust and trade.3 .
we need strong government regulation in the financial sector , and the assholes ( greenspan and co ) who dismantled the 1930s era ( irony ) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibilityMore , or less .
It 's partly because we 're forced to use government currency via licensed banks that we have these problems in the first place .
Rational investors avoided all the problems the economy has seen , from the 90s tech stocks to real-estate and repackaged debt .
Warren Buffet sails through this " crisis " hardly noticing anything and the common people are the victims because they deal in government currency which is based on banking games.The real damage comes , still government inflicted , during the rebuilding , where the most damaging institutions are given all the newly printed money and the sectors of the economy that were functioning are kicked in the teeth , left with a diluted currency as the only payback for their honesty.Ideally the government would offer bailouts at one level only - welfare to individuals .
Then let the financial market do what it will , if you choose to believe there 's value in being fifth in line on a bundle of defaulting mortgages , more power to you.Instead of having to trust government inspectors , no-doubt lazy unionized layabouts with unclear credentials , I want to hire third-party auditors of my choice and merely have the government provide small and solid base of law to enforce this relationship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1. the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scaleSeems like that's the intent and they'll just keep throwing parties till it works.
The demonizing of their opponents fits.2.
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods [...]Now who's an intolerant deluded propagandized fool?
Not every believer in the purpose of the 2nd amendment lives in the woods, or hordes guns (one is enough).[...
] are the seeds of fascism, NOT our protectors from fascismIf you see them as your protectors you're undoubtedly wrong, yes...But I wonder why you see neighbors with the power to defend themselves as a threat?
I know many hunters and treat them just like non-hunters.
Most people I know have access to a car [wikipedia.org].
Most people have a house full of knives.Personally I see a homogeneous mixture of diverse people and opinions, all individually and collectively armed, against any threat foreign, domestic, or personal, as the best way to lasting peace and safety.
Fear and dependence breeds war - strength builds trust and trade.3.
we need strong government regulation in the financial sector, and the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibilityMore, or less.
It's partly because we're forced to use government currency via licensed banks that we have these problems in the first place.
Rational investors avoided all the problems the economy has seen, from the 90s tech stocks to real-estate and repackaged debt.
Warren Buffet sails through this "crisis" hardly noticing anything and the common people are the victims because they deal in government currency which is based on banking games.The real damage comes, still government inflicted, during the rebuilding, where the most damaging institutions are given all the newly printed money and the sectors of the economy that were functioning are kicked in the teeth, left with a diluted currency as the only payback for their honesty.Ideally the government would offer bailouts at one level only - welfare to individuals.
Then let the financial market do what it will, if you choose to believe there's value in being fifth in line on a bundle of defaulting mortgages, more power to you.Instead of having to trust government inspectors, no-doubt lazy unionized layabouts with unclear credentials, I want to hire third-party auditors of my choice and merely have the government provide small and solid base of law to enforce this relationship.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31676600</id>
	<title>First they came...</title>
	<author>foxylad</author>
	<datestamp>1269940500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First they blocked the child porn sites,<br>and I didn't speak up because I abhore child abuse.</p><p>Then they blocked all gay sex sites,<br>and I didn't speak up because I'm not gay.</p><p>Then they blocked all the sites that support terrorists,<br>and I didn't speak up because I forgot that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.</p><p>Then they blocked all porn sites,<br>and I didn't speak up because I like my sex real.</p><p>Then they blocked all the all political sites,<br>and I didn't speak up because who reads those things anyway?</p><p>Then they blocked all the web sites complaining about the blocking,<br>and I couldn't speak up.</p><p>(Apologies to Martin Niem&#246;ller)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First they blocked the child porn sites,and I did n't speak up because I abhore child abuse.Then they blocked all gay sex sites,and I did n't speak up because I 'm not gay.Then they blocked all the sites that support terrorists,and I did n't speak up because I forgot that one man 's terrorist is another 's freedom fighter.Then they blocked all porn sites,and I did n't speak up because I like my sex real.Then they blocked all the all political sites,and I did n't speak up because who reads those things anyway ? Then they blocked all the web sites complaining about the blocking,and I could n't speak up .
( Apologies to Martin Niem   ller )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First they blocked the child porn sites,and I didn't speak up because I abhore child abuse.Then they blocked all gay sex sites,and I didn't speak up because I'm not gay.Then they blocked all the sites that support terrorists,and I didn't speak up because I forgot that one man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.Then they blocked all porn sites,and I didn't speak up because I like my sex real.Then they blocked all the all political sites,and I didn't speak up because who reads those things anyway?Then they blocked all the web sites complaining about the blocking,and I couldn't speak up.
(Apologies to Martin Niemöller)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31675312</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269979380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The tea-partiers are just a mob. You don't understand this people, you assume they operate on a thought process that, however disagreeable you may find, is still internally consistent.</p><p>Far from it, these people are actually a mass demonstration of double-think. They will believe or at the least give weight on their minds to anything that comes from Fox News, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, etc.</p><p>If you want to understand better learn some history, you'll find a sickeningly large amount of examples.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The tea-partiers are just a mob .
You do n't understand this people , you assume they operate on a thought process that , however disagreeable you may find , is still internally consistent.Far from it , these people are actually a mass demonstration of double-think .
They will believe or at the least give weight on their minds to anything that comes from Fox News , Glen Beck , Rush Limbaugh , etc.If you want to understand better learn some history , you 'll find a sickeningly large amount of examples .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The tea-partiers are just a mob.
You don't understand this people, you assume they operate on a thought process that, however disagreeable you may find, is still internally consistent.Far from it, these people are actually a mass demonstration of double-think.
They will believe or at the least give weight on their minds to anything that comes from Fox News, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, etc.If you want to understand better learn some history, you'll find a sickeningly large amount of examples.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673784</id>
	<title>What does culture cover ?</title>
	<author>tizan</author>
	<datestamp>1269973380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your argument is the same as the Pitcairn island rapists.<br>They claimed it was in their culture to rape 12 year old girls<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...as one of their defense.</p><p>So should you respect that and let that happen ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your argument is the same as the Pitcairn island rapists.They claimed it was in their culture to rape 12 year old girls ...as one of their defense.So should you respect that and let that happen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your argument is the same as the Pitcairn island rapists.They claimed it was in their culture to rape 12 year old girls ...as one of their defense.So should you respect that and let that happen ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673816</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>dwandy</author>
	<datestamp>1269973500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>If I ran a country</p></div></blockquote><p>
There's the problem right there: In a free society it's supposed to be a stewardship, not a dictatorship.<br>
I highly doubt most citizens of a free country want their government to restrict where they can go online, much less censor via a secret list.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ran a country There 's the problem right there : In a free society it 's supposed to be a stewardship , not a dictatorship .
I highly doubt most citizens of a free country want their government to restrict where they can go online , much less censor via a secret list .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ran a country
There's the problem right there: In a free society it's supposed to be a stewardship, not a dictatorship.
I highly doubt most citizens of a free country want their government to restrict where they can go online, much less censor via a secret list.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31683576</id>
	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1269976980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It took around a decade to discredit McCarthyism, and there's a small but significant group of right wing pundits who still defend him. While waiting for people like this to self destruct, it's important do your part and give them a good shove in that direction whenever possible.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Fortunately, Conroy is far dumber then McCarthy. Each time he goes on television he makes himself more and more disliked. His debate revolves around calling his detractors paedophiles and his every defence of the filter begins with the words "child pornography". Australians saw straight through the "your either with us or against us" BS from the Bush era and frankly have no patience for it. Conroy is even making himself unpopular with the back bench, meaning Rudd will have to do something about Conroy or risk a revolt from within the party.<br> <br>

But your right, write to your MP and make sure your disgust of Conroy is registered. Do it by post and sign it by hand in blue ink, emails and digital signatures are too easy to ignore. Parliamentarians will do something if they think their seat is threatened.</p></div>
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<tokenext>It took around a decade to discredit McCarthyism , and there 's a small but significant group of right wing pundits who still defend him .
While waiting for people like this to self destruct , it 's important do your part and give them a good shove in that direction whenever possible .
Fortunately , Conroy is far dumber then McCarthy .
Each time he goes on television he makes himself more and more disliked .
His debate revolves around calling his detractors paedophiles and his every defence of the filter begins with the words " child pornography " .
Australians saw straight through the " your either with us or against us " BS from the Bush era and frankly have no patience for it .
Conroy is even making himself unpopular with the back bench , meaning Rudd will have to do something about Conroy or risk a revolt from within the party .
But your right , write to your MP and make sure your disgust of Conroy is registered .
Do it by post and sign it by hand in blue ink , emails and digital signatures are too easy to ignore .
Parliamentarians will do something if they think their seat is threatened .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It took around a decade to discredit McCarthyism, and there's a small but significant group of right wing pundits who still defend him.
While waiting for people like this to self destruct, it's important do your part and give them a good shove in that direction whenever possible.
Fortunately, Conroy is far dumber then McCarthy.
Each time he goes on television he makes himself more and more disliked.
His debate revolves around calling his detractors paedophiles and his every defence of the filter begins with the words "child pornography".
Australians saw straight through the "your either with us or against us" BS from the Bush era and frankly have no patience for it.
Conroy is even making himself unpopular with the back bench, meaning Rudd will have to do something about Conroy or risk a revolt from within the party.
But your right, write to your MP and make sure your disgust of Conroy is registered.
Do it by post and sign it by hand in blue ink, emails and digital signatures are too easy to ignore.
Parliamentarians will do something if they think their seat is threatened.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31676472</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>EQ</author>
	<datestamp>1269940140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p> <em>"the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger"</em> </p><p>Cite please.  I've driven by a couple "Tea Party" crowds and they tend to be fairly well behaved and orderly.  A bit older as well.  The DC stuff last week ("N word" and spitting) has been thoroughly debunked as a politically convenient lie by the congressmen involved.</p><p>The only brick throwing lately has been the opposite: GOP offices have had <a href="http://www.freep.com/article/20100330/NEWS01/3300308/1322/Brick-lobbed-through-state-GOP-offices-in-Howell" title="freep.com">bricks through the windows</a> [freep.com] (cite: Detroit Free Press) in the past couple of weeks, and one Republican <a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/03/richmond\_pd\_investigating\_cant.html" title="washingtonpost.com">Congressman's office was shot</a> [washingtonpost.com] (Cantor, a Jewish GOP guy from VA had a <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35152.html" title="politico.com">death threat that was verified and resulted in an arrest yesterday</a> [politico.com]). Also Harry Reid supporters were deliberately misdirecting people going to the Tea Party rally last week, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t7IHaHJamE" title="youtube.com">threatening a guy who was reporting and pelting the charter buses with eggs</a> [youtube.com].  If you like, search for Kenneth Gladney, a black man who was beaten by SEIU union thugs for supporting the Tea Party outside a rally.</p><p>If you go to the net, instead of the MSM or politically tilted blogs, you can see the preponderance of physical violence has primarily been on the statist or anarchist part.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the angry tea partiers , with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger " Cite please .
I 've driven by a couple " Tea Party " crowds and they tend to be fairly well behaved and orderly .
A bit older as well .
The DC stuff last week ( " N word " and spitting ) has been thoroughly debunked as a politically convenient lie by the congressmen involved.The only brick throwing lately has been the opposite : GOP offices have had bricks through the windows [ freep.com ] ( cite : Detroit Free Press ) in the past couple of weeks , and one Republican Congressman 's office was shot [ washingtonpost.com ] ( Cantor , a Jewish GOP guy from VA had a death threat that was verified and resulted in an arrest yesterday [ politico.com ] ) .
Also Harry Reid supporters were deliberately misdirecting people going to the Tea Party rally last week , and threatening a guy who was reporting and pelting the charter buses with eggs [ youtube.com ] .
If you like , search for Kenneth Gladney , a black man who was beaten by SEIU union thugs for supporting the Tea Party outside a rally.If you go to the net , instead of the MSM or politically tilted blogs , you can see the preponderance of physical violence has primarily been on the statist or anarchist part .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger" Cite please.
I've driven by a couple "Tea Party" crowds and they tend to be fairly well behaved and orderly.
A bit older as well.
The DC stuff last week ("N word" and spitting) has been thoroughly debunked as a politically convenient lie by the congressmen involved.The only brick throwing lately has been the opposite: GOP offices have had bricks through the windows [freep.com] (cite: Detroit Free Press) in the past couple of weeks, and one Republican Congressman's office was shot [washingtonpost.com] (Cantor, a Jewish GOP guy from VA had a death threat that was verified and resulted in an arrest yesterday [politico.com]).
Also Harry Reid supporters were deliberately misdirecting people going to the Tea Party rally last week, and threatening a guy who was reporting and pelting the charter buses with eggs [youtube.com].
If you like, search for Kenneth Gladney, a black man who was beaten by SEIU union thugs for supporting the Tea Party outside a rally.If you go to the net, instead of the MSM or politically tilted blogs, you can see the preponderance of physical violence has primarily been on the statist or anarchist part.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673988</id>
	<title>EIN VOLK, EIN REICH,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269974100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>EIN OBAMA!</b></htmltext>
<tokenext>EIN OBAMA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>EIN OBAMA!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31675708</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>bmk67</author>
	<datestamp>1269980820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I have no opinion on the tea partiers at this time.  I'm also not directly addressing you.  However...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Teabaggers</p></div><p>WTF is up with all the hate directed at people that we don't agree with politically?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I think what they are really trying to do is stop a black man from governing as President.</p></div><p>...and all of the race-baiting?</p><p>Have we really sunk this low?</p></div>
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<tokenext>I have no opinion on the tea partiers at this time .
I 'm also not directly addressing you .
However...TeabaggersWTF is up with all the hate directed at people that we do n't agree with politically ? I think what they are really trying to do is stop a black man from governing as President....and all of the race-baiting ? Have we really sunk this low ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no opinion on the tea partiers at this time.
I'm also not directly addressing you.
However...TeabaggersWTF is up with all the hate directed at people that we don't agree with politically?I think what they are really trying to do is stop a black man from governing as President....and all of the race-baiting?Have we really sunk this low?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672378</id>
	<title>Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1269968940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Only a matter of time until the former discredits himself like the latter did.  His railing against Google makes him sound foolish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only a matter of time until the former discredits himself like the latter did .
His railing against Google makes him sound foolish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only a matter of time until the former discredits himself like the latter did.
His railing against Google makes him sound foolish.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31678526</id>
	<title>Read his actual words - transcript</title>
	<author>Petrushka</author>
	<datestamp>1269947520000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>What on earth are you talking about? or even <i>think</i> you are talking about? What is it you imagine Google has done here? Conroy was simply attacking Google to distract attention from how much everyone hates the censorship, not because Google had done or said anything <i>at all</i>.</p><p>Maybe a full transcript of his remarks will help. TRANSCRIPT follows. Context: the host is trying to get quick closing comments from the Minister and from Colin Jacobs, the VP of Electronic Frontiers Australia. He asks for a closing comment from the Minister first; Jacobs is not given a chance to comment. (No one has even <i>mentioned</i> Google, Inc.)</p><blockquote><div><p>CONROY. And while I appreciate some people might want to elevate the internet into something special, could I just draw them back to the - this argument, and those who advocate this argument, I mean recently the founder of Google have got themselves into a little bit of trouble because, notwithstanding -</p><p>HOST. Mm.</p><p>CONROY. - their alleged "Do no evil" policy, they recently created something called, ah, "Buzz", and there was a - a reaction, ah, and people said, well look, aren't you publishing private information. </p><p>HOST. Mm.</p><p>CONROY. And -</p><p>HOST. We are almost out of time, by the way, Minister.</p><p>CONROY. - Mr Schmidt said, said the following: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place." This is the founder of Google. </p><p>HOST. Mm.</p><p>CONROY. He also said recently to Wall Street analysts, "We - love - cash." In a sentence, that was it, just "We - love - cash." </p><p>HOST. Yes, heh heh -</p><p>CONROY. So when people say, shouldn't we just leave it up to, y'know the Googles of this world - to determine - what the filtering policy should be, and make no mistake, anybody who wants to go onto Google's sites now and look up their filtering policy will actually find - they filter more material -</p><p>HOST. Minister -</p><p>CONROY. - on a broader range of topics than we are proposing to do for what -</p><p>HOST. We, we have - uh - we - heh -</p><p>CONROY. I'll back our parliament to stand fast on these issues rather than Google.</p><p>HOST. We have to wrap it.</p><p>CONROY. Thank you.</p><p>HOST. Good to talk to you. Thanks very much<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... [thanks guests, end of programme]</p></div>
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<tokenext>What on earth are you talking about ?
or even think you are talking about ?
What is it you imagine Google has done here ?
Conroy was simply attacking Google to distract attention from how much everyone hates the censorship , not because Google had done or said anything at all.Maybe a full transcript of his remarks will help .
TRANSCRIPT follows .
Context : the host is trying to get quick closing comments from the Minister and from Colin Jacobs , the VP of Electronic Frontiers Australia .
He asks for a closing comment from the Minister first ; Jacobs is not given a chance to comment .
( No one has even mentioned Google , Inc. ) CONROY .
And while I appreciate some people might want to elevate the internet into something special , could I just draw them back to the - this argument , and those who advocate this argument , I mean recently the founder of Google have got themselves into a little bit of trouble because , notwithstanding -HOST .
Mm.CONROY. - their alleged " Do no evil " policy , they recently created something called , ah , " Buzz " , and there was a - a reaction , ah , and people said , well look , are n't you publishing private information .
HOST. Mm.CONROY .
And -HOST .
We are almost out of time , by the way , Minister.CONROY .
- Mr Schmidt said , said the following : " If you have something that you do n't want anyone to know , maybe you should n't be doing it in the first place .
" This is the founder of Google .
HOST. Mm.CONROY .
He also said recently to Wall Street analysts , " We - love - cash .
" In a sentence , that was it , just " We - love - cash .
" HOST .
Yes , heh heh -CONROY .
So when people say , should n't we just leave it up to , y'know the Googles of this world - to determine - what the filtering policy should be , and make no mistake , anybody who wants to go onto Google 's sites now and look up their filtering policy will actually find - they filter more material -HOST .
Minister -CONROY .
- on a broader range of topics than we are proposing to do for what -HOST .
We , we have - uh - we - heh -CONROY .
I 'll back our parliament to stand fast on these issues rather than Google.HOST .
We have to wrap it.CONROY .
Thank you.HOST .
Good to talk to you .
Thanks very much ... [ thanks guests , end of programme ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What on earth are you talking about?
or even think you are talking about?
What is it you imagine Google has done here?
Conroy was simply attacking Google to distract attention from how much everyone hates the censorship, not because Google had done or said anything at all.Maybe a full transcript of his remarks will help.
TRANSCRIPT follows.
Context: the host is trying to get quick closing comments from the Minister and from Colin Jacobs, the VP of Electronic Frontiers Australia.
He asks for a closing comment from the Minister first; Jacobs is not given a chance to comment.
(No one has even mentioned Google, Inc.)CONROY.
And while I appreciate some people might want to elevate the internet into something special, could I just draw them back to the - this argument, and those who advocate this argument, I mean recently the founder of Google have got themselves into a little bit of trouble because, notwithstanding -HOST.
Mm.CONROY. - their alleged "Do no evil" policy, they recently created something called, ah, "Buzz", and there was a - a reaction, ah, and people said, well look, aren't you publishing private information.
HOST. Mm.CONROY.
And -HOST.
We are almost out of time, by the way, Minister.CONROY.
- Mr Schmidt said, said the following: "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
" This is the founder of Google.
HOST. Mm.CONROY.
He also said recently to Wall Street analysts, "We - love - cash.
" In a sentence, that was it, just "We - love - cash.
" HOST.
Yes, heh heh -CONROY.
So when people say, shouldn't we just leave it up to, y'know the Googles of this world - to determine - what the filtering policy should be, and make no mistake, anybody who wants to go onto Google's sites now and look up their filtering policy will actually find - they filter more material -HOST.
Minister -CONROY.
- on a broader range of topics than we are proposing to do for what -HOST.
We, we have - uh - we - heh -CONROY.
I'll back our parliament to stand fast on these issues rather than Google.HOST.
We have to wrap it.CONROY.
Thank you.HOST.
Good to talk to you.
Thanks very much ... [thanks guests, end of programme]

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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31677400</id>
	<title>The itWire article is rubbish.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269942900000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>This is a much better commentary:</p><p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/government-goes-to-war-with-google-over-net-censorship-20100330-r9bp.html" title="theage.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/government-goes-to-war-with-google-over-net-censorship-20100330-r9bp.html</a> [theage.com.au]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the difference between online reporting and newspaper backed journalism.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a much better commentary : http : //www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/government-goes-to-war-with-google-over-net-censorship-20100330-r9bp.html [ theage.com.au ] ... the difference between online reporting and newspaper backed journalism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a much better commentary:http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/government-goes-to-war-with-google-over-net-censorship-20100330-r9bp.html [theage.com.au] ... the difference between online reporting and newspaper backed journalism.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674696</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>pitchpipe</author>
	<datestamp>1269976560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>IMHO, Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism, not create it. You can not create a fascist government regime by campaigning to strip the government of power! That's just stupid. Look to the ones trying to collect government power.</p></div><p>So which is it: are they trying to stop <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Communism</a> [wikipedia.org] or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Fascism</a> [wikipedia.org]?  Because it seems to me that they are equated in the minds of the Teabaggers.</p><p>I think what they are really trying to do is stop a black man from governing as President.</p></div>
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<tokenext>IMHO , Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism , not create it .
You can not create a fascist government regime by campaigning to strip the government of power !
That 's just stupid .
Look to the ones trying to collect government power.So which is it : are they trying to stop Communism [ wikipedia.org ] or Fascism [ wikipedia.org ] ?
Because it seems to me that they are equated in the minds of the Teabaggers.I think what they are really trying to do is stop a black man from governing as President .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IMHO, Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism, not create it.
You can not create a fascist government regime by campaigning to strip the government of power!
That's just stupid.
Look to the ones trying to collect government power.So which is it: are they trying to stop Communism [wikipedia.org] or Fascism [wikipedia.org]?
Because it seems to me that they are equated in the minds of the Teabaggers.I think what they are really trying to do is stop a black man from governing as President.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31675128</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269978600000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>You are either making stuff up for the convenience of your argument or just don't know even basic history.</p><p>The Europe of those times would look like an alien planet to a modern suburbanite. Crazy ideologies with huge number of (armed) followers, hard racial tensions, constant violent conflicts, empire-dreaming leader everywhere, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are either making stuff up for the convenience of your argument or just do n't know even basic history.The Europe of those times would look like an alien planet to a modern suburbanite .
Crazy ideologies with huge number of ( armed ) followers , hard racial tensions , constant violent conflicts , empire-dreaming leader everywhere , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are either making stuff up for the convenience of your argument or just don't know even basic history.The Europe of those times would look like an alien planet to a modern suburbanite.
Crazy ideologies with huge number of (armed) followers, hard racial tensions, constant violent conflicts, empire-dreaming leader everywhere, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672788</id>
	<title>Australia's Tiananmen Square</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269970200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>As a lone figure in a drover's coat stands beer in hand blocking a column of tourist carrying vans......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a lone figure in a drover 's coat stands beer in hand blocking a column of tourist carrying vans..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a lone figure in a drover's coat stands beer in hand blocking a column of tourist carrying vans......</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674382</id>
	<title>let sleeping dogs lie</title>
	<author>slick7</author>
	<datestamp>1269975360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>When people finally realize that 100 million free thinkers can overwhelm any government regardless of the consequences, then it will become interesting. However, weaning these people off their bread and circuses is the issue. Denying access to the mainstream circus ie. google, stumbleupon, 4chan etc... only creates the incentive to find alternative diversions. The greatest fear of any government is to lose the attention of the captivated. Boredom begets excitement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When people finally realize that 100 million free thinkers can overwhelm any government regardless of the consequences , then it will become interesting .
However , weaning these people off their bread and circuses is the issue .
Denying access to the mainstream circus ie .
google , stumbleupon , 4chan etc... only creates the incentive to find alternative diversions .
The greatest fear of any government is to lose the attention of the captivated .
Boredom begets excitement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When people finally realize that 100 million free thinkers can overwhelm any government regardless of the consequences, then it will become interesting.
However, weaning these people off their bread and circuses is the issue.
Denying access to the mainstream circus ie.
google, stumbleupon, 4chan etc... only creates the incentive to find alternative diversions.
The greatest fear of any government is to lose the attention of the captivated.
Boredom begets excitement.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31675104</id>
	<title>Glitch</title>
	<author>jroc242</author>
	<datestamp>1269978360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>I though this was just a glitch on Google's part:


Google issued a statement at its headquarters in Mountain View, Calif., that said: &ldquo;Lots of users in China have been unable to search on Google.com.hk today. This blockage seems to have been triggered by a change on Google&rsquo;s part.&rdquo;</htmltext>
<tokenext>I though this was just a glitch on Google 's part : Google issued a statement at its headquarters in Mountain View , Calif. , that said :    Lots of users in China have been unable to search on Google.com.hk today .
This blockage seems to have been triggered by a change on Google    s part.   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>I though this was just a glitch on Google's part:


Google issued a statement at its headquarters in Mountain View, Calif., that said: “Lots of users in China have been unable to search on Google.com.hk today.
This blockage seems to have been triggered by a change on Google’s part.”</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672764</id>
	<title>Oblig?</title>
	<author>Nesman64</author>
	<datestamp>1269970140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>That's not a firewall...</p><p>That's a firewall.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not a firewall...That 's a firewall .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not a firewall...That's a firewall.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>vikingpower</author>
	<datestamp>1269972720000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Very well seen. If the 20th century taught us anything, then it was this: any innocent-looking, peaceful society can almost without prior notice degenerate into a self-destructing monster, ruled by a tyrant. Which is a terrible and sad thing to say, but - alas - a true one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very well seen .
If the 20th century taught us anything , then it was this : any innocent-looking , peaceful society can almost without prior notice degenerate into a self-destructing monster , ruled by a tyrant .
Which is a terrible and sad thing to say , but - alas - a true one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very well seen.
If the 20th century taught us anything, then it was this: any innocent-looking, peaceful society can almost without prior notice degenerate into a self-destructing monster, ruled by a tyrant.
Which is a terrible and sad thing to say, but - alas - a true one.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673278</id>
	<title>specifically</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1269971640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>when your economy is trashed by greedy speculation then fear and hysteria. that's what sent germany to the dogs: the great depression, the collapse of the financial world</p><p>aka, what the world just experiences in 2008 (on a much smaller scale, true)</p><p>but this historical parallel leads us to four observations:</p><p>1. the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scale</p><p>2. intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascism, NOT our protectors from fascism</p><p>3. we need strong government regulation in the financial sector, and the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility</p><p>4. hopefully the world, and the usa, can weather this horde of angry morons out of work, the seeds of fascism, without them crystallizing around some modern day hitler-like demagogue and mounting a political (and visceral: they love guns) challenge to civilization. and then let the retards fade away into history</p><p>interesintg note: many tea partiers receive government benefits (unemployment, medicaid)... while they rail against government aid. they go to tea party rallies... instead of looking for work. fucking ignorant hypocrites</p><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28teaparty.html" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28teaparty.html</a> [nytimes.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>when your economy is trashed by greedy speculation then fear and hysteria .
that 's what sent germany to the dogs : the great depression , the collapse of the financial worldaka , what the world just experiences in 2008 ( on a much smaller scale , true ) but this historical parallel leads us to four observations : 1. the angry tea partiers , with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger , IS kristallnacht , on a smaller scale2 .
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascism , NOT our protectors from fascism3 .
we need strong government regulation in the financial sector , and the assholes ( greenspan and co ) who dismantled the 1930s era ( irony ) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility4 .
hopefully the world , and the usa , can weather this horde of angry morons out of work , the seeds of fascism , without them crystallizing around some modern day hitler-like demagogue and mounting a political ( and visceral : they love guns ) challenge to civilization .
and then let the retards fade away into historyinteresintg note : many tea partiers receive government benefits ( unemployment , medicaid ) ... while they rail against government aid .
they go to tea party rallies... instead of looking for work .
fucking ignorant hypocriteshttp : //www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28teaparty.html [ nytimes.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when your economy is trashed by greedy speculation then fear and hysteria.
that's what sent germany to the dogs: the great depression, the collapse of the financial worldaka, what the world just experiences in 2008 (on a much smaller scale, true)but this historical parallel leads us to four observations:1. the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scale2.
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascism, NOT our protectors from fascism3.
we need strong government regulation in the financial sector, and the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility4.
hopefully the world, and the usa, can weather this horde of angry morons out of work, the seeds of fascism, without them crystallizing around some modern day hitler-like demagogue and mounting a political (and visceral: they love guns) challenge to civilization.
and then let the retards fade away into historyinteresintg note: many tea partiers receive government benefits (unemployment, medicaid)... while they rail against government aid.
they go to tea party rallies... instead of looking for work.
fucking ignorant hypocriteshttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28teaparty.html [nytimes.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674508</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269975900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...Clearly Google's don't respect a country's right to manage their own laws.  If I ran a country, and enacted some laws, and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my country, yeah I'd ban them, of course. A country's laws, and culture, are their own to set, and not to be controlled by any outside nation...</p></div><p>Google is simply a tool, there for people to use, or possibly, to misuse. One of the most insidious ways freedoms are eroded is the creeping in of laws "for your own good" (something could possibly be misused so it should be controlled). If the people in "your" country don't respect the laws you have enacted to the point where they are using Google, or anything else to evade or bypass them, then obviously the problem is either with "your" laws or with the people. If you accept the premise that people consent to be governed, yet they are routinely breaking a law, then obviously it is the law that is the problem and it should be overturned.</p></div>
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<tokenext>...Clearly Google 's do n't respect a country 's right to manage their own laws .
If I ran a country , and enacted some laws , and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my country , yeah I 'd ban them , of course .
A country 's laws , and culture , are their own to set , and not to be controlled by any outside nation...Google is simply a tool , there for people to use , or possibly , to misuse .
One of the most insidious ways freedoms are eroded is the creeping in of laws " for your own good " ( something could possibly be misused so it should be controlled ) .
If the people in " your " country do n't respect the laws you have enacted to the point where they are using Google , or anything else to evade or bypass them , then obviously the problem is either with " your " laws or with the people .
If you accept the premise that people consent to be governed , yet they are routinely breaking a law , then obviously it is the law that is the problem and it should be overturned .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...Clearly Google's don't respect a country's right to manage their own laws.
If I ran a country, and enacted some laws, and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my country, yeah I'd ban them, of course.
A country's laws, and culture, are their own to set, and not to be controlled by any outside nation...Google is simply a tool, there for people to use, or possibly, to misuse.
One of the most insidious ways freedoms are eroded is the creeping in of laws "for your own good" (something could possibly be misused so it should be controlled).
If the people in "your" country don't respect the laws you have enacted to the point where they are using Google, or anything else to evade or bypass them, then obviously the problem is either with "your" laws or with the people.
If you accept the premise that people consent to be governed, yet they are routinely breaking a law, then obviously it is the law that is the problem and it should be overturned.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672778</id>
	<title>I would</title>
	<author>holophrastic</author>
	<datestamp>1269970200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Clearly Google's don't respect a country's right to manage their own laws.  If I ran a country, and enacted some laws, and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my coutry, yeah I'd ban them, of course.</p><p>A country's laws, and culture, are their own to set, and not to be controlled by any outside nation.  Sure we'll make enceptions for real human rights like food and water and torture.  But censorship of illegal material and such doesn't come anywhere close.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Clearly Google 's do n't respect a country 's right to manage their own laws .
If I ran a country , and enacted some laws , and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my coutry , yeah I 'd ban them , of course.A country 's laws , and culture , are their own to set , and not to be controlled by any outside nation .
Sure we 'll make enceptions for real human rights like food and water and torture .
But censorship of illegal material and such does n't come anywhere close .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Clearly Google's don't respect a country's right to manage their own laws.
If I ran a country, and enacted some laws, and law a company refusing to follow my laws in my coutry, yeah I'd ban them, of course.A country's laws, and culture, are their own to set, and not to be controlled by any outside nation.
Sure we'll make enceptions for real human rights like food and water and torture.
But censorship of illegal material and such doesn't come anywhere close.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31678846</id>
	<title>Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269949020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>CRA played a small part. A bigger part was played by the fact that a) Glass-Steagall was dropped and b) all loans were eventually packaged and sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, perceived as quasi-government entities, who take all the risk and none of the benefit. This allowed banks to over-leverage (30:1 to 60:1, seriously, guarantee 60 dollars of loans with one dollar cash !?) and to take excessive risk by lending to people beyond their means, because they wouldn't be left holding the bag.</p><p>The fact that the overwhelming majority of loans were below the FHA limit that allows purchase by FNM and FMAC, and that right before the collapse efforts were made to increase that limit from under 500k to over 700k in some areas, is a clear indication of the source of the problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>CRA played a small part .
A bigger part was played by the fact that a ) Glass-Steagall was dropped and b ) all loans were eventually packaged and sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac , perceived as quasi-government entities , who take all the risk and none of the benefit .
This allowed banks to over-leverage ( 30 : 1 to 60 : 1 , seriously , guarantee 60 dollars of loans with one dollar cash ! ?
) and to take excessive risk by lending to people beyond their means , because they would n't be left holding the bag.The fact that the overwhelming majority of loans were below the FHA limit that allows purchase by FNM and FMAC , and that right before the collapse efforts were made to increase that limit from under 500k to over 700k in some areas , is a clear indication of the source of the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CRA played a small part.
A bigger part was played by the fact that a) Glass-Steagall was dropped and b) all loans were eventually packaged and sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, perceived as quasi-government entities, who take all the risk and none of the benefit.
This allowed banks to over-leverage (30:1 to 60:1, seriously, guarantee 60 dollars of loans with one dollar cash !?
) and to take excessive risk by lending to people beyond their means, because they wouldn't be left holding the bag.The fact that the overwhelming majority of loans were below the FHA limit that allows purchase by FNM and FMAC, and that right before the collapse efforts were made to increase that limit from under 500k to over 700k in some areas, is a clear indication of the source of the problem.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674798</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>guyminuslife</author>
	<datestamp>1269976980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I demand my right to torture!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I demand my right to torture !
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I demand my right to torture!
;-)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672578</id>
	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1269969600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since slashdot doesn't link to the actual comments, here's what was said:    </p><p><div class="quote"><p>   Conroy went on television to take a shot at Google: "Recently the founders of Google have got themselves into a little bit of trouble because notwithstanding their alleged 'do no evil' policy, they recently created something called Buzz, and there was a reaction and people said, well look aren't you publishing private information?"</p><p>"They said the following: 'If you have something that you don't want anyone to know maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place'. This is the founder of Google. He also said recently to Wall Street analysts, 'we love cash', so when people say, shouldn't we just leave it up to the Googles of this world to determine what the filtering policy should be...."</p></div><p>  Notice how this politicians ASSUMES that we want filtering (either by google or the government).  We.  Do.  Not.  I don't need my internet filtered either for me or my kids.  Show me all the dirt and disgusting things that exist in the world.  I can handle it.</p><p>So fuck off Conroy.    <i>   (Yes I'm angry - I'm tired of politicians treating adults like their children to be babied.)   </i></p></div>
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<tokenext>Since slashdot does n't link to the actual comments , here 's what was said : Conroy went on television to take a shot at Google : " Recently the founders of Google have got themselves into a little bit of trouble because notwithstanding their alleged 'do no evil ' policy , they recently created something called Buzz , and there was a reaction and people said , well look are n't you publishing private information ?
" " They said the following : 'If you have something that you do n't want anyone to know maybe you should n't be doing it in the first place' .
This is the founder of Google .
He also said recently to Wall Street analysts , 'we love cash ' , so when people say , should n't we just leave it up to the Googles of this world to determine what the filtering policy should be.... " Notice how this politicians ASSUMES that we want filtering ( either by google or the government ) .
We. Do .
Not. I do n't need my internet filtered either for me or my kids .
Show me all the dirt and disgusting things that exist in the world .
I can handle it.So fuck off Conroy .
( Yes I 'm angry - I 'm tired of politicians treating adults like their children to be babied .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since slashdot doesn't link to the actual comments, here's what was said:       Conroy went on television to take a shot at Google: "Recently the founders of Google have got themselves into a little bit of trouble because notwithstanding their alleged 'do no evil' policy, they recently created something called Buzz, and there was a reaction and people said, well look aren't you publishing private information?
""They said the following: 'If you have something that you don't want anyone to know maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place'.
This is the founder of Google.
He also said recently to Wall Street analysts, 'we love cash', so when people say, shouldn't we just leave it up to the Googles of this world to determine what the filtering policy should be...."  Notice how this politicians ASSUMES that we want filtering (either by google or the government).
We.  Do.
Not.  I don't need my internet filtered either for me or my kids.
Show me all the dirt and disgusting things that exist in the world.
I can handle it.So fuck off Conroy.
(Yes I'm angry - I'm tired of politicians treating adults like their children to be babied.
)   
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673786</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>Jerf</author>
	<datestamp>1269973380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're being manipulated. Evidence that Tea Partiers are violent has been almost entirely fabricated; when pressed for concrete evidence, nobody can actually produce any despite significant motivation. If you feel otherwise, please feel free to link the video on YouTube that proves your point.</p><p>Skip the part where you link to more vague hit pieces on the New York Times, please. I'm asking for <i>concrete evidence</i>, which in this age of video-cameras-on-every-phone is hardly asking for much.</p><p>IMHO, Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism, not create it. You can not create a fascist government regime by campaigning to strip the government of power! That's just stupid. Look to the ones trying to <i>collect</i> government power.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're being manipulated .
Evidence that Tea Partiers are violent has been almost entirely fabricated ; when pressed for concrete evidence , nobody can actually produce any despite significant motivation .
If you feel otherwise , please feel free to link the video on YouTube that proves your point.Skip the part where you link to more vague hit pieces on the New York Times , please .
I 'm asking for concrete evidence , which in this age of video-cameras-on-every-phone is hardly asking for much.IMHO , Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism , not create it .
You can not create a fascist government regime by campaigning to strip the government of power !
That 's just stupid .
Look to the ones trying to collect government power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're being manipulated.
Evidence that Tea Partiers are violent has been almost entirely fabricated; when pressed for concrete evidence, nobody can actually produce any despite significant motivation.
If you feel otherwise, please feel free to link the video on YouTube that proves your point.Skip the part where you link to more vague hit pieces on the New York Times, please.
I'm asking for concrete evidence, which in this age of video-cameras-on-every-phone is hardly asking for much.IMHO, Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism, not create it.
You can not create a fascist government regime by campaigning to strip the government of power!
That's just stupid.
Look to the ones trying to collect government power.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672520</id>
	<title>In the name of the Greatest US President ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269969420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... of all time - "Bring It On!!!"</p><p>No, wait - that didn't work out so well last time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... of all time - " Bring It On ! ! !
" No , wait - that did n't work out so well last time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... of all time - "Bring It On!!!
"No, wait - that didn't work out so well last time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31682566</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>HeadlessNotAHorseman</author>
	<datestamp>1269967560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I took your challenge and went back to Germany in the 20's and said to some Germans: "Within 20 years, your country will elect one of the most intolerant demagogues in world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of your population." Unfortunately none of them spoke English. So instead I said "Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!" and they died of laughter! Oh, the fun you can have with time travel.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I took your challenge and went back to Germany in the 20 's and said to some Germans : " Within 20 years , your country will elect one of the most intolerant demagogues in world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of your population .
" Unfortunately none of them spoke English .
So instead I said " Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer ?
Ja ! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput !
" and they died of laughter !
Oh , the fun you can have with time travel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I took your challenge and went back to Germany in the 20's and said to some Germans: "Within 20 years, your country will elect one of the most intolerant demagogues in world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of your population.
" Unfortunately none of them spoke English.
So instead I said "Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer?
Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
" and they died of laughter!
Oh, the fun you can have with time travel.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672596</id>
	<title>Take your ball and go home</title>
	<author>bluefoxlucid</author>
	<datestamp>1269969660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>More like Google decided to punch the guy in the face and get thrown out.  I suppose this is more appropriate when the other team has taken a liking to unwanted groping of the cheerleaders....</htmltext>
<tokenext>More like Google decided to punch the guy in the face and get thrown out .
I suppose this is more appropriate when the other team has taken a liking to unwanted groping of the cheerleaders... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More like Google decided to punch the guy in the face and get thrown out.
I suppose this is more appropriate when the other team has taken a liking to unwanted groping of the cheerleaders....</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>VitrosChemistryAnaly</author>
	<datestamp>1269944640000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Very well seen. If the 20th century taught us anything, then it was this: any innocent-looking, peaceful society can almost without prior notice degenerate into a self-destructing monster, ruled by a tyrant. Which is a terrible and sad thing to say, but - alas - a true one.</p></div></blockquote><p>
I thought that's what the Star Wars prequels taught us...</p></div>
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<tokenext>Very well seen .
If the 20th century taught us anything , then it was this : any innocent-looking , peaceful society can almost without prior notice degenerate into a self-destructing monster , ruled by a tyrant .
Which is a terrible and sad thing to say , but - alas - a true one .
I thought that 's what the Star Wars prequels taught us.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very well seen.
If the 20th century taught us anything, then it was this: any innocent-looking, peaceful society can almost without prior notice degenerate into a self-destructing monster, ruled by a tyrant.
Which is a terrible and sad thing to say, but - alas - a true one.
I thought that's what the Star Wars prequels taught us...
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673690</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1269973020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Germany before the 1930's was</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
You can be the most academically and intellectually sophisticated country after you kill your left wing leaders in 1919-01-15, send right wing radicals to prison in 1923, economy is booming and your military expenditures are limited by treaty.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Germany before the 1930 's was You can be the most academically and intellectually sophisticated country after you kill your left wing leaders in 1919-01-15 , send right wing radicals to prison in 1923 , economy is booming and your military expenditures are limited by treaty .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Germany before the 1930's was

You can be the most academically and intellectually sophisticated country after you kill your left wing leaders in 1919-01-15, send right wing radicals to prison in 1923, economy is booming and your military expenditures are limited by treaty.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31688582</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270053780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Nice try.  The problem wasn't the bad mortgages -- and incidentally I'd point out that private companies were far more aggressive in subprime lending than Fannie Mae -- it was the fact that the poisonous debt was repackaged ("laundered" might be a more apropos word) into financial instruments whose value was dissociated from risk.  Courtesy of the fact that banking regulations put into place after the Great Depression were recently dismantled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice try .
The problem was n't the bad mortgages -- and incidentally I 'd point out that private companies were far more aggressive in subprime lending than Fannie Mae -- it was the fact that the poisonous debt was repackaged ( " laundered " might be a more apropos word ) into financial instruments whose value was dissociated from risk .
Courtesy of the fact that banking regulations put into place after the Great Depression were recently dismantled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice try.
The problem wasn't the bad mortgages -- and incidentally I'd point out that private companies were far more aggressive in subprime lending than Fannie Mae -- it was the fact that the poisonous debt was repackaged ("laundered" might be a more apropos word) into financial instruments whose value was dissociated from risk.
Courtesy of the fact that banking regulations put into place after the Great Depression were recently dismantled.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674450</id>
	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1269975660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know enough about McCarthy to make a solid statement on him one way or another, however, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venona\_project" title="wikipedia.org">Venona Project (released to the public in 1995)</a> [wikipedia.org] proved that McCarthy was at least partially right, by showing that there were communist spies in the US government.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know enough about McCarthy to make a solid statement on him one way or another , however , the Venona Project ( released to the public in 1995 ) [ wikipedia.org ] proved that McCarthy was at least partially right , by showing that there were communist spies in the US government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know enough about McCarthy to make a solid statement on him one way or another, however, the Venona Project (released to the public in 1995) [wikipedia.org] proved that McCarthy was at least partially right, by showing that there were communist spies in the US government.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31675032</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269978000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>when pressed for concrete evidence, nobody can actually produce any despite significant motivation.</p></div></blockquote><p>I guess the video that was released yesterday of the teabagger clearly spitting on Congressman Cleaver from Missouri didn't satisfy you.</p><blockquote><div><p>Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism, not create it.</p></div> </blockquote><p>When the teabaggers start believing in their philosophy enough to stop taking government benefits like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability, Food Stamps, etc, then they can be treated seriously.</p><p>Apparently you didn't see the Frank Rich article from Sunday where so many teabagger leaders admitted to being on some sort of government assistance.  It turns out they're a bunch of welfare queens.</p></div>
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<tokenext>when pressed for concrete evidence , nobody can actually produce any despite significant motivation.I guess the video that was released yesterday of the teabagger clearly spitting on Congressman Cleaver from Missouri did n't satisfy you.Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism , not create it .
When the teabaggers start believing in their philosophy enough to stop taking government benefits like Medicare , Medicaid , Social Security , Disability , Food Stamps , etc , then they can be treated seriously.Apparently you did n't see the Frank Rich article from Sunday where so many teabagger leaders admitted to being on some sort of government assistance .
It turns out they 're a bunch of welfare queens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when pressed for concrete evidence, nobody can actually produce any despite significant motivation.I guess the video that was released yesterday of the teabagger clearly spitting on Congressman Cleaver from Missouri didn't satisfy you.Tea Partiers are the ones trying to stop the full-on march to fascism, not create it.
When the teabaggers start believing in their philosophy enough to stop taking government benefits like Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Disability, Food Stamps, etc, then they can be treated seriously.Apparently you didn't see the Frank Rich article from Sunday where so many teabagger leaders admitted to being on some sort of government assistance.
It turns out they're a bunch of welfare queens.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31682710</id>
	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269968880000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Don't forget, McCarthy was discredited only because of a new form of journalism. The investigative power of the television news media exposed McCarthy for what he was. Television news is now controlled by corporate interests. The same interests that have created the tea party movement and have a vested interest in less government control and having a poor, controllable population for a study supply of cheap labor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget , McCarthy was discredited only because of a new form of journalism .
The investigative power of the television news media exposed McCarthy for what he was .
Television news is now controlled by corporate interests .
The same interests that have created the tea party movement and have a vested interest in less government control and having a poor , controllable population for a study supply of cheap labor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget, McCarthy was discredited only because of a new form of journalism.
The investigative power of the television news media exposed McCarthy for what he was.
Television news is now controlled by corporate interests.
The same interests that have created the tea party movement and have a vested interest in less government control and having a poor, controllable population for a study supply of cheap labor.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31678060</id>
	<title>Australia:</title>
	<author>kikito</author>
	<datestamp>1269945660000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><a href="http://images.google.es/images?q=nelson+ha+ha" title="google.es" rel="nofollow">Ha-ha!</a> [google.es]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ha-ha !
[ google.es ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ha-ha!
[google.es]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1269978180000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Fascism?  Are you serious?</p><p>Ok, here's a quick politics 101 lesson:  fascism is considered an extreme right wing ideology, and Communism extreme left.  They have almost always been in strong opposition to each other.</p><p>But somehow according to the Tea Baggers, Obama and the current administration is simultaneously leading America in the "march" to fascism and communism, to the right and to the left.  Either he's the most brilliant and manipulative politician in the history of the world, or his opponents love to make up any crap they can without any reasonable evidence or justification to spread as much irrational fear as possible.  Honestly, either way I'd prefer him on my side!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fascism ?
Are you serious ? Ok , here 's a quick politics 101 lesson : fascism is considered an extreme right wing ideology , and Communism extreme left .
They have almost always been in strong opposition to each other.But somehow according to the Tea Baggers , Obama and the current administration is simultaneously leading America in the " march " to fascism and communism , to the right and to the left .
Either he 's the most brilliant and manipulative politician in the history of the world , or his opponents love to make up any crap they can without any reasonable evidence or justification to spread as much irrational fear as possible .
Honestly , either way I 'd prefer him on my side !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fascism?
Are you serious?Ok, here's a quick politics 101 lesson:  fascism is considered an extreme right wing ideology, and Communism extreme left.
They have almost always been in strong opposition to each other.But somehow according to the Tea Baggers, Obama and the current administration is simultaneously leading America in the "march" to fascism and communism, to the right and to the left.
Either he's the most brilliant and manipulative politician in the history of the world, or his opponents love to make up any crap they can without any reasonable evidence or justification to spread as much irrational fear as possible.
Honestly, either way I'd prefer him on my side!</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>Totenglocke</author>
	<datestamp>1269975240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>when your economy is trashed by greedy speculation then fear and hysteria. that's what sent germany to the dogs: the great depression, the collapse of the financial world</p></div><p>Germany went downhill because of the brutal raping it received in the peace treaty after WWI.  That is also what caused the overwhelming resentment of the rest of the world (or at least the rest of Europe and the US) which resulted in Hitler's rise to power.</p><p><div class="quote"><p> we need strong government regulation in the financial sector</p></div><p>We need regulation - however, once you hit a certain point, regulation turns into control, which then harms the economy due to government officials not having the slightest clue about how to run a company, let alone an entire industry.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility</p></div><p>Actually it was the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) that lead to the housing bubble / slew of bad mortgages.  The CRA was started by Carter and strengthened by Clinton and it existed to put pressure on banks to give loans to people (specifically mortgages) who would normally be turned away by banks (due to the high risk of them defaulting) because the government thought everyone should own a home, even if they can't afford it.  That resulted in millions of people getting mortgages when they never should have had one as well as ballooning home prices.  Add on top of that the fact that the average American spends way more than they earn each year (usually on crap they don't need) and you have a recipe for financial disaster.  If the banks had been left alone and the CRA never existed, then home prices would have stayed in check (look at historical averages, home prices always adjusted for inflation but in real dollars, they stayed essentially constant - once the CRA was strengthened, all of the sudden home prices started going up way faster than inflation) and there wouldn't be anywhere near as many people defaulting on mortgages.  The current recession is about 60\% the fault of average citizens racking up way too much debt (mainly on credit cards) and about 40\% the government naively pushing banks to give risky mortgages (which exacerbated the problem of people racking up too much debt).</p><p>I find it amusing that you demonize the Tea Partiers (who have no official group, it's a generic term given to anyone upset about government control of our lives and government taking away our freedom) for being "fascists" when the whole reason they're upset is because they <i>don't</i> want fascism.</p></div>
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<tokenext>when your economy is trashed by greedy speculation then fear and hysteria .
that 's what sent germany to the dogs : the great depression , the collapse of the financial worldGermany went downhill because of the brutal raping it received in the peace treaty after WWI .
That is also what caused the overwhelming resentment of the rest of the world ( or at least the rest of Europe and the US ) which resulted in Hitler 's rise to power .
we need strong government regulation in the financial sectorWe need regulation - however , once you hit a certain point , regulation turns into control , which then harms the economy due to government officials not having the slightest clue about how to run a company , let alone an entire industry.the assholes ( greenspan and co ) who dismantled the 1930s era ( irony ) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibilityActually it was the CRA ( Community Reinvestment Act ) that lead to the housing bubble / slew of bad mortgages .
The CRA was started by Carter and strengthened by Clinton and it existed to put pressure on banks to give loans to people ( specifically mortgages ) who would normally be turned away by banks ( due to the high risk of them defaulting ) because the government thought everyone should own a home , even if they ca n't afford it .
That resulted in millions of people getting mortgages when they never should have had one as well as ballooning home prices .
Add on top of that the fact that the average American spends way more than they earn each year ( usually on crap they do n't need ) and you have a recipe for financial disaster .
If the banks had been left alone and the CRA never existed , then home prices would have stayed in check ( look at historical averages , home prices always adjusted for inflation but in real dollars , they stayed essentially constant - once the CRA was strengthened , all of the sudden home prices started going up way faster than inflation ) and there would n't be anywhere near as many people defaulting on mortgages .
The current recession is about 60 \ % the fault of average citizens racking up way too much debt ( mainly on credit cards ) and about 40 \ % the government naively pushing banks to give risky mortgages ( which exacerbated the problem of people racking up too much debt ) .I find it amusing that you demonize the Tea Partiers ( who have no official group , it 's a generic term given to anyone upset about government control of our lives and government taking away our freedom ) for being " fascists " when the whole reason they 're upset is because they do n't want fascism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>when your economy is trashed by greedy speculation then fear and hysteria.
that's what sent germany to the dogs: the great depression, the collapse of the financial worldGermany went downhill because of the brutal raping it received in the peace treaty after WWI.
That is also what caused the overwhelming resentment of the rest of the world (or at least the rest of Europe and the US) which resulted in Hitler's rise to power.
we need strong government regulation in the financial sectorWe need regulation - however, once you hit a certain point, regulation turns into control, which then harms the economy due to government officials not having the slightest clue about how to run a company, let alone an entire industry.the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibilityActually it was the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) that lead to the housing bubble / slew of bad mortgages.
The CRA was started by Carter and strengthened by Clinton and it existed to put pressure on banks to give loans to people (specifically mortgages) who would normally be turned away by banks (due to the high risk of them defaulting) because the government thought everyone should own a home, even if they can't afford it.
That resulted in millions of people getting mortgages when they never should have had one as well as ballooning home prices.
Add on top of that the fact that the average American spends way more than they earn each year (usually on crap they don't need) and you have a recipe for financial disaster.
If the banks had been left alone and the CRA never existed, then home prices would have stayed in check (look at historical averages, home prices always adjusted for inflation but in real dollars, they stayed essentially constant - once the CRA was strengthened, all of the sudden home prices started going up way faster than inflation) and there wouldn't be anywhere near as many people defaulting on mortgages.
The current recession is about 60\% the fault of average citizens racking up way too much debt (mainly on credit cards) and about 40\% the government naively pushing banks to give risky mortgages (which exacerbated the problem of people racking up too much debt).I find it amusing that you demonize the Tea Partiers (who have no official group, it's a generic term given to anyone upset about government control of our lives and government taking away our freedom) for being "fascists" when the whole reason they're upset is because they don't want fascism.
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	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1269975060000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Seeing as this is about Australia,<blockquote><div><p>1. the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scale</p></div></blockquote><p>

Glad we dont have people like these, well we do have our "One Nations" (Ironic name for the racist party, no Aisan or Abbo's allowed) and Family Firsts (think of the children party) but nothing as big or organised.</p><blockquote><div><p>2. intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascism, NOT our protectors from fascism</p></div></blockquote><p>

Another thing I'm glad we dont have, our Fascist bringers are drunkards sitting in some dive telling children how the Asians^W, Indians^W, Muslims^W, Africans will take their jobs when they are older (it was Asians when I was 6, we've gone through Indians, Muslims and now Africans since them)</p><blockquote><div><p>3. we need strong government regulation in the financial sector, and the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility</p></div></blockquote><p>

Got that, Australia's economy was the first to recover because our banking system was forced to maintain a certain percentage of liquidity and interest rates were kept at a rate that reflected the state of the economy (booming), so banks had money when the bust came and the interest rate dropped to about 2\%.<br> <br>

Economic management does not need less or more control, it needs good control.</p><blockquote><div><p>4. hopefully the world, and the usa, can weather this horde of angry morons out of work, the seeds of fascism, without them crystallizing around some modern day hitler-like demagogue and mounting a political (and visceral: they love guns) challenge to civilization. and then let the retards fade away into history</p></div></blockquote><p>

It will, the US will not see pre-GFC levels of consumption within out lifetimes though.<br> <br>

The worlds economy will recover, the GBP, EUR and USD will take some time. Unlike the 30's there is no external pressure or restrictions. Many historians blame the treaty of Versailles for Hitlers rise by creating the debt and unemployment that permitted it, Hitler gave the Germans someone to blame (the Jews) without dwelling on what Germany did in WWI.<br> <br>

This is more akin to the US in 1930. Expect a rise in organised crime and black market activity.</p><blockquote><div><p>interesting note: many tea partiers receive government benefits (unemployment, medicaid)...</p></div></blockquote><p>

Extremists are often hypocrites, film at 11.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Seeing as this is about Australia,1 .
the angry tea partiers , with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger , IS kristallnacht , on a smaller scale Glad we dont have people like these , well we do have our " One Nations " ( Ironic name for the racist party , no Aisan or Abbo 's allowed ) and Family Firsts ( think of the children party ) but nothing as big or organised.2 .
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascism , NOT our protectors from fascism Another thing I 'm glad we dont have , our Fascist bringers are drunkards sitting in some dive telling children how the Asians ^ W , Indians ^ W , Muslims ^ W , Africans will take their jobs when they are older ( it was Asians when I was 6 , we 've gone through Indians , Muslims and now Africans since them ) 3. we need strong government regulation in the financial sector , and the assholes ( greenspan and co ) who dismantled the 1930s era ( irony ) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility Got that , Australia 's economy was the first to recover because our banking system was forced to maintain a certain percentage of liquidity and interest rates were kept at a rate that reflected the state of the economy ( booming ) , so banks had money when the bust came and the interest rate dropped to about 2 \ % .
Economic management does not need less or more control , it needs good control.4 .
hopefully the world , and the usa , can weather this horde of angry morons out of work , the seeds of fascism , without them crystallizing around some modern day hitler-like demagogue and mounting a political ( and visceral : they love guns ) challenge to civilization .
and then let the retards fade away into history It will , the US will not see pre-GFC levels of consumption within out lifetimes though .
The worlds economy will recover , the GBP , EUR and USD will take some time .
Unlike the 30 's there is no external pressure or restrictions .
Many historians blame the treaty of Versailles for Hitlers rise by creating the debt and unemployment that permitted it , Hitler gave the Germans someone to blame ( the Jews ) without dwelling on what Germany did in WWI .
This is more akin to the US in 1930 .
Expect a rise in organised crime and black market activity.interesting note : many tea partiers receive government benefits ( unemployment , medicaid ) .. . Extremists are often hypocrites , film at 11 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seeing as this is about Australia,1.
the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scale

Glad we dont have people like these, well we do have our "One Nations" (Ironic name for the racist party, no Aisan or Abbo's allowed) and Family Firsts (think of the children party) but nothing as big or organised.2.
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascism, NOT our protectors from fascism

Another thing I'm glad we dont have, our Fascist bringers are drunkards sitting in some dive telling children how the Asians^W, Indians^W, Muslims^W, Africans will take their jobs when they are older (it was Asians when I was 6, we've gone through Indians, Muslims and now Africans since them)3. we need strong government regulation in the financial sector, and the assholes (greenspan and co) who dismantled the 1930s era (irony) protections need to be grilled a la congressional hearings and roundly castigated for their dangerous irresponsibility

Got that, Australia's economy was the first to recover because our banking system was forced to maintain a certain percentage of liquidity and interest rates were kept at a rate that reflected the state of the economy (booming), so banks had money when the bust came and the interest rate dropped to about 2\%.
Economic management does not need less or more control, it needs good control.4.
hopefully the world, and the usa, can weather this horde of angry morons out of work, the seeds of fascism, without them crystallizing around some modern day hitler-like demagogue and mounting a political (and visceral: they love guns) challenge to civilization.
and then let the retards fade away into history

It will, the US will not see pre-GFC levels of consumption within out lifetimes though.
The worlds economy will recover, the GBP, EUR and USD will take some time.
Unlike the 30's there is no external pressure or restrictions.
Many historians blame the treaty of Versailles for Hitlers rise by creating the debt and unemployment that permitted it, Hitler gave the Germans someone to blame (the Jews) without dwelling on what Germany did in WWI.
This is more akin to the US in 1930.
Expect a rise in organised crime and black market activity.interesting note: many tea partiers receive government benefits (unemployment, medicaid)...

Extremists are often hypocrites, film at 11.
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	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Lazy Jones</author>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We always like to think that we're above devolving into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianism; but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road. I wouldn't just dismiss it so casually.</p></div><p>
Indeed, we have progressed very far down that road already. All we need now is some enemy as an excuse for martial law and a totalitarian rule. In fact, we already have one. I'm suspecting that Muslims already feel in the US/UK like Jews did in the 30's around here and there is no strong outside enemy to be seen yet that would make curfews, i.e. physical oppression seem necessary so people don't revolt or try to run away...</p></div>
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<tokenext>We always like to think that we 're above devolving into brutality , oppression , and totalitarianism ; but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road .
I would n't just dismiss it so casually .
Indeed , we have progressed very far down that road already .
All we need now is some enemy as an excuse for martial law and a totalitarian rule .
In fact , we already have one .
I 'm suspecting that Muslims already feel in the US/UK like Jews did in the 30 's around here and there is no strong outside enemy to be seen yet that would make curfews , i.e .
physical oppression seem necessary so people do n't revolt or try to run away.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We always like to think that we're above devolving into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianism; but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road.
I wouldn't just dismiss it so casually.
Indeed, we have progressed very far down that road already.
All we need now is some enemy as an excuse for martial law and a totalitarian rule.
In fact, we already have one.
I'm suspecting that Muslims already feel in the US/UK like Jews did in the 30's around here and there is no strong outside enemy to be seen yet that would make curfews, i.e.
physical oppression seem necessary so people don't revolt or try to run away...
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	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
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	<htmltext>The real mindfuck here is that McCarthy was right. The communists were everywhere, and they did go on to take over one of the major parties (perhaps both, depending on your view of the neocons). The people who discredit him were the kind of people who he was trying to ferret out.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The real mindfuck here is that McCarthy was right .
The communists were everywhere , and they did go on to take over one of the major parties ( perhaps both , depending on your view of the neocons ) .
The people who discredit him were the kind of people who he was trying to ferret out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real mindfuck here is that McCarthy was right.
The communists were everywhere, and they did go on to take over one of the major parties (perhaps both, depending on your view of the neocons).
The people who discredit him were the kind of people who he was trying to ferret out.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>BrokenHalo</author>
	<datestamp>1269971340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><i>...but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road.</i> <br> <br>
They sure do, but it is still by no means certain this legislation will pass. The Australian Government needs the support of the Senate to get its legislation through Parliament, and it has already had several setbacks in that regard, hence the likelihood of a double dissolution election this year.<br> <br>
Conroy himself is an arrogant little shit, and apparently Kevin Rudd is being equally so by leaving the asswipe in that portfolio. But we can hope that the Opposition's taste for obstructionism might yet be put to some worthwhile use.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road .
They sure do , but it is still by no means certain this legislation will pass .
The Australian Government needs the support of the Senate to get its legislation through Parliament , and it has already had several setbacks in that regard , hence the likelihood of a double dissolution election this year .
Conroy himself is an arrogant little shit , and apparently Kevin Rudd is being equally so by leaving the asswipe in that portfolio .
But we can hope that the Opposition 's taste for obstructionism might yet be put to some worthwhile use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road.
They sure do, but it is still by no means certain this legislation will pass.
The Australian Government needs the support of the Senate to get its legislation through Parliament, and it has already had several setbacks in that regard, hence the likelihood of a double dissolution election this year.
Conroy himself is an arrogant little shit, and apparently Kevin Rudd is being equally so by leaving the asswipe in that portfolio.
But we can hope that the Opposition's taste for obstructionism might yet be put to some worthwhile use.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>ffreeloader</author>
	<datestamp>1269976020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Ummm....  Where's your proof of those assertions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummm.... Where 's your proof of those assertions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummm....  Where's your proof of those assertions?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
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	<htmltext><p>I think the effects of WW1 (poverty, disgrace<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...), different concepts of responsibility (&#252;ber alles) and the lack of media savvy (people where/are turned to antisemitism by a single propaganda movie) should not be underestimated. In the area of the former Yugoslavia, for example, the population where prepared for the conflict by transmitting years of propaganda by the the state media. As the people where probably used to a notion of singular, state provided truth by the communist regime, they didn't know how to filter out the hate.<br>
&nbsp; Another point would be that the national socialists where actively working for their agenda over a decade earlier and got their support for the agenda from the antisemitism risen already in the late 1800's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the effects of WW1 ( poverty , disgrace ... ) , different concepts of responsibility (   ber alles ) and the lack of media savvy ( people where/are turned to antisemitism by a single propaganda movie ) should not be underestimated .
In the area of the former Yugoslavia , for example , the population where prepared for the conflict by transmitting years of propaganda by the the state media .
As the people where probably used to a notion of singular , state provided truth by the communist regime , they did n't know how to filter out the hate .
  Another point would be that the national socialists where actively working for their agenda over a decade earlier and got their support for the agenda from the antisemitism risen already in the late 1800 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the effects of WW1 (poverty, disgrace ...), different concepts of responsibility (über alles) and the lack of media savvy (people where/are turned to antisemitism by a single propaganda movie) should not be underestimated.
In the area of the former Yugoslavia, for example, the population where prepared for the conflict by transmitting years of propaganda by the the state media.
As the people where probably used to a notion of singular, state provided truth by the communist regime, they didn't know how to filter out the hate.
  Another point would be that the national socialists where actively working for their agenda over a decade earlier and got their support for the agenda from the antisemitism risen already in the late 1800's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31677798</id>
	<title>This will never last</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269944460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They truely think that the Australian population is stupid. Do they really think that no Australian shares a forum or IRC channel with foreigners? "Hey, can you check to see if this link is working?" It'll be a piece of piss to compile a list of everything that is blocked in Australia.</p><p>I am preparing for an embarressing backdown from the next communications minister.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They truely think that the Australian population is stupid .
Do they really think that no Australian shares a forum or IRC channel with foreigners ?
" Hey , can you check to see if this link is working ?
" It 'll be a piece of piss to compile a list of everything that is blocked in Australia.I am preparing for an embarressing backdown from the next communications minister .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They truely think that the Australian population is stupid.
Do they really think that no Australian shares a forum or IRC channel with foreigners?
"Hey, can you check to see if this link is working?
" It'll be a piece of piss to compile a list of everything that is blocked in Australia.I am preparing for an embarressing backdown from the next communications minister.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673358</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Mindcontrolled</author>
	<datestamp>1269971940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am not sure if that is completely right. Sure, Germany in the 20s was on the one hand a academically and intellectually sophisticated country. On the other hand, it was a severely torn country, with large parts of the population not standing behind the transition from monarchy to democracy, a hugely polarized political scene with fighting between communists and fascists on the streets - a pressure cooker waiting for the lid to blow. That is probably actually one of the reasons for the vibrant cultural scene of the 20s, everything being overheated, everything being in overdrive. I am pretty sure that there was a significant percentage at least of the intellectual groups of Germany's society in the 20s who would not have dismissed your prediction, who felt that there was an explosion to come.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am not sure if that is completely right .
Sure , Germany in the 20s was on the one hand a academically and intellectually sophisticated country .
On the other hand , it was a severely torn country , with large parts of the population not standing behind the transition from monarchy to democracy , a hugely polarized political scene with fighting between communists and fascists on the streets - a pressure cooker waiting for the lid to blow .
That is probably actually one of the reasons for the vibrant cultural scene of the 20s , everything being overheated , everything being in overdrive .
I am pretty sure that there was a significant percentage at least of the intellectual groups of Germany 's society in the 20s who would not have dismissed your prediction , who felt that there was an explosion to come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am not sure if that is completely right.
Sure, Germany in the 20s was on the one hand a academically and intellectually sophisticated country.
On the other hand, it was a severely torn country, with large parts of the population not standing behind the transition from monarchy to democracy, a hugely polarized political scene with fighting between communists and fascists on the streets - a pressure cooker waiting for the lid to blow.
That is probably actually one of the reasons for the vibrant cultural scene of the 20s, everything being overheated, everything being in overdrive.
I am pretty sure that there was a significant percentage at least of the intellectual groups of Germany's society in the 20s who would not have dismissed your prediction, who felt that there was an explosion to come.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672350</id>
	<title>Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>quarrel</author>
	<datestamp>1269968820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Politics might be stupid in Australia, like lots of places. But no, it won't go the same was as China.</p><p>We have transparency and rule of law.</p><p>However fucked out Communications Minister might be.</p><p>--Q</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Politics might be stupid in Australia , like lots of places .
But no , it wo n't go the same was as China.We have transparency and rule of law.However fucked out Communications Minister might be.--Q</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Politics might be stupid in Australia, like lots of places.
But no, it won't go the same was as China.We have transparency and rule of law.However fucked out Communications Minister might be.--Q</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673726</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269973200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds a bit troll to me.  What if the country's laws go against the UN Charter of Human Rights?  A country's laws do not over-ride fundamental human rights and I applaud any entity that doesn't "go along" with abuse of fundamental human rights.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds a bit troll to me .
What if the country 's laws go against the UN Charter of Human Rights ?
A country 's laws do not over-ride fundamental human rights and I applaud any entity that does n't " go along " with abuse of fundamental human rights .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds a bit troll to me.
What if the country's laws go against the UN Charter of Human Rights?
A country's laws do not over-ride fundamental human rights and I applaud any entity that doesn't "go along" with abuse of fundamental human rights.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672934</id>
	<title>Simply: No</title>
	<author>berny@work</author>
	<datestamp>1269970680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No infrastructure<br>Nobody is going to enforce it</p><p>No company wants all the phone calls saying "I can't access Google" broadband margins are that bad on a per customer basis, the moment they phone rings from a customer they are losing money.</p><p>Not going to happen</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No infrastructureNobody is going to enforce itNo company wants all the phone calls saying " I ca n't access Google " broadband margins are that bad on a per customer basis , the moment they phone rings from a customer they are losing money.Not going to happen</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No infrastructureNobody is going to enforce itNo company wants all the phone calls saying "I can't access Google" broadband margins are that bad on a per customer basis, the moment they phone rings from a customer they are losing money.Not going to happen</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674328</id>
	<title>I DARE YOU</title>
	<author>atomicthumbs</author>
	<datestamp>1269975180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wanna see him do it, mostly to see what happens to him and how fast.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wan na see him do it , mostly to see what happens to him and how fast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wanna see him do it, mostly to see what happens to him and how fast.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674822</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269977040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No it isn't.</p><p>There...I've made the same argument-by-declaration you have.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No it is n't.There...I 've made the same argument-by-declaration you have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No it isn't.There...I've made the same argument-by-declaration you have.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674030</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269974220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep hearing this BS about how tea partiers have this insane murderous anger. Outside of a handful of fringe idiots, where is all the violence? You would have thought, that if these people were all violent lunatics given all the demonstrations that there have been held we'd be seeing riots. Ironically, it was the anti-war nuts who went on rampages during the Bush years vandalizing property and causing trouble. If you disagree with this administration and it's policies you're either a bigot or some gun-toting, bible-thumping nut. Apparently it's okay to stereotype and cast aspersions when you're talking about conservatives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep hearing this BS about how tea partiers have this insane murderous anger .
Outside of a handful of fringe idiots , where is all the violence ?
You would have thought , that if these people were all violent lunatics given all the demonstrations that there have been held we 'd be seeing riots .
Ironically , it was the anti-war nuts who went on rampages during the Bush years vandalizing property and causing trouble .
If you disagree with this administration and it 's policies you 're either a bigot or some gun-toting , bible-thumping nut .
Apparently it 's okay to stereotype and cast aspersions when you 're talking about conservatives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep hearing this BS about how tea partiers have this insane murderous anger.
Outside of a handful of fringe idiots, where is all the violence?
You would have thought, that if these people were all violent lunatics given all the demonstrations that there have been held we'd be seeing riots.
Ironically, it was the anti-war nuts who went on rampages during the Bush years vandalizing property and causing trouble.
If you disagree with this administration and it's policies you're either a bigot or some gun-toting, bible-thumping nut.
Apparently it's okay to stereotype and cast aspersions when you're talking about conservatives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31677812</id>
	<title>This would include unclassified video games</title>
	<author>PerZon</author>
	<datestamp>1269944520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its not enough they ban certain titles. Now its only a matter of time before unclassified mature content video games make the great Aussie firewall.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its not enough they ban certain titles .
Now its only a matter of time before unclassified mature content video games make the great Aussie firewall .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its not enough they ban certain titles.
Now its only a matter of time before unclassified mature content video games make the great Aussie firewall.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672592</id>
	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>MozeeToby</author>
	<datestamp>1269969600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It took around a decade to discredit McCarthyism, and there's a small but significant group of right wing pundits who still defend him.  While waiting for people like this to self destruct, it's important do your part and give them a good shove in that direction whenever possible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It took around a decade to discredit McCarthyism , and there 's a small but significant group of right wing pundits who still defend him .
While waiting for people like this to self destruct , it 's important do your part and give them a good shove in that direction whenever possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It took around a decade to discredit McCarthyism, and there's a small but significant group of right wing pundits who still defend him.
While waiting for people like this to self destruct, it's important do your part and give them a good shove in that direction whenever possible.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674134</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269974520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Knowledge is just as much a real human right as food and water and torture.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Knowledge is just as much a real human right as food and water and torture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Knowledge is just as much a real human right as food and water and torture.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31675898</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Cur8or</author>
	<datestamp>1269981480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>What is the Linux-vs-MS-bound-to-be-on-/.-rule called again?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is the Linux-vs-MS-bound-to-be-on-/.-rule called again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is the Linux-vs-MS-bound-to-be-on-/.-rule called again?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672632</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673412</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269972180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I blame anthropologists for this</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I blame anthropologists for this</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I blame anthropologists for this</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31683522</id>
	<title>Wrong, and stupid. Please check your history.</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1269976440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You clearly don't know history. The destruction of Jewish stores/homes was perpetrated by government employees working for the National Socialist Party. Tea Party supporters are not government employees.</p></div></blockquote><p>

The beatings and destruction of property was started by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung" title="wikipedia.org">Brown Shirts</a> [wikipedia.org] or SA in numerous riots. Whilst many of these riots were directed against the Socialists (Bolsheviks, and some yanks* believe Hitler was a commie) the Jews were always valid targets. The SA were not Government employees or even Nazi party employees. It was a mainly volunteer organisation (army) and unpaid. The SA could not have been government forces as one of Hitler's first acts was to disband the SA and move responsibility all official Nazi party enforcement to the SS (Black Shirts).<br> <br>

Tea Partiers are members of a political organisation, just like the Brown Shirts were in 1920's Germany. The only think the SA had over the Tea Partiers is organisation and German efficiency.</p><blockquote><div><p>No. Hitler banned private ownership of guns</p></div></blockquote><p>

This is an outright fabrication.<br> <br>

It was the Weirmar government who introduced it in 1919 to comply with the treaty of Versailles (so in effect, We the allies put weapon bans in Germany). This was relaxed in 1928 by the German (non Nazi, they didn't get power until 1933) government to only require a firearm license permitting private weapon ownership. The Nazi government made a revision in 1938 which only banned Jewish people from carrying guns. The 1938 revision also exempted Nazi party members from gun laws (inc licensing), reduced the licensing age from 20 to 18 and most of the law was only applied to handguns, not rifles or ammunition.<br> <br>

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun\_politics\_in\_Germany" title="wikipedia.org">Some reading on the subject here.</a> [wikipedia.org] <br> <br>

Please learn some history before commenting on history, thank you.<br> <br>

* Nothing against Americans, most of you are intelligent or at the very least nice people, but you have a fair few vocal nutters.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You clearly do n't know history .
The destruction of Jewish stores/homes was perpetrated by government employees working for the National Socialist Party .
Tea Party supporters are not government employees .
The beatings and destruction of property was started by the Brown Shirts [ wikipedia.org ] or SA in numerous riots .
Whilst many of these riots were directed against the Socialists ( Bolsheviks , and some yanks * believe Hitler was a commie ) the Jews were always valid targets .
The SA were not Government employees or even Nazi party employees .
It was a mainly volunteer organisation ( army ) and unpaid .
The SA could not have been government forces as one of Hitler 's first acts was to disband the SA and move responsibility all official Nazi party enforcement to the SS ( Black Shirts ) .
Tea Partiers are members of a political organisation , just like the Brown Shirts were in 1920 's Germany .
The only think the SA had over the Tea Partiers is organisation and German efficiency.No .
Hitler banned private ownership of guns This is an outright fabrication .
It was the Weirmar government who introduced it in 1919 to comply with the treaty of Versailles ( so in effect , We the allies put weapon bans in Germany ) .
This was relaxed in 1928 by the German ( non Nazi , they did n't get power until 1933 ) government to only require a firearm license permitting private weapon ownership .
The Nazi government made a revision in 1938 which only banned Jewish people from carrying guns .
The 1938 revision also exempted Nazi party members from gun laws ( inc licensing ) , reduced the licensing age from 20 to 18 and most of the law was only applied to handguns , not rifles or ammunition .
Some reading on the subject here .
[ wikipedia.org ] Please learn some history before commenting on history , thank you .
* Nothing against Americans , most of you are intelligent or at the very least nice people , but you have a fair few vocal nutters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You clearly don't know history.
The destruction of Jewish stores/homes was perpetrated by government employees working for the National Socialist Party.
Tea Party supporters are not government employees.
The beatings and destruction of property was started by the Brown Shirts [wikipedia.org] or SA in numerous riots.
Whilst many of these riots were directed against the Socialists (Bolsheviks, and some yanks* believe Hitler was a commie) the Jews were always valid targets.
The SA were not Government employees or even Nazi party employees.
It was a mainly volunteer organisation (army) and unpaid.
The SA could not have been government forces as one of Hitler's first acts was to disband the SA and move responsibility all official Nazi party enforcement to the SS (Black Shirts).
Tea Partiers are members of a political organisation, just like the Brown Shirts were in 1920's Germany.
The only think the SA had over the Tea Partiers is organisation and German efficiency.No.
Hitler banned private ownership of guns

This is an outright fabrication.
It was the Weirmar government who introduced it in 1919 to comply with the treaty of Versailles (so in effect, We the allies put weapon bans in Germany).
This was relaxed in 1928 by the German (non Nazi, they didn't get power until 1933) government to only require a firearm license permitting private weapon ownership.
The Nazi government made a revision in 1938 which only banned Jewish people from carrying guns.
The 1938 revision also exempted Nazi party members from gun laws (inc licensing), reduced the licensing age from 20 to 18 and most of the law was only applied to handguns, not rifles or ammunition.
Some reading on the subject here.
[wikipedia.org]  

Please learn some history before commenting on history, thank you.
* Nothing against Americans, most of you are intelligent or at the very least nice people, but you have a fair few vocal nutters.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672380</id>
	<title>Could it have anything to do with...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269968940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...one of the top google search results for "Stephen Conroy" being the less than flattering <a href="http://stephen-conroy.com/" title="stephen-conroy.com" rel="nofollow">http://stephen-conroy.com/</a> [stephen-conroy.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>...one of the top google search results for " Stephen Conroy " being the less than flattering http : //stephen-conroy.com/ [ stephen-conroy.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...one of the top google search results for "Stephen Conroy" being the less than flattering http://stephen-conroy.com/ [stephen-conroy.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31764514</id>
	<title>Noone should read your mail.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270668600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's kinda stupid to use email (or search data) for any kind of sensitive communication as long as it's run by a company as google - probably having an outpost in your own country and ready to serve police forces with any stored information on you (regardless of where servers are). What this australian guy doesn't  like is that only US probably has full mass data mining capabilities over Google data, and they want that too.</p><p>Google should just move mail to a neutral country which won't disclose data to foreign government without a good cause. Swift moved data to Switzerland recently, due to US forcing them to give away transaction data.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's kinda stupid to use email ( or search data ) for any kind of sensitive communication as long as it 's run by a company as google - probably having an outpost in your own country and ready to serve police forces with any stored information on you ( regardless of where servers are ) .
What this australian guy does n't like is that only US probably has full mass data mining capabilities over Google data , and they want that too.Google should just move mail to a neutral country which wo n't disclose data to foreign government without a good cause .
Swift moved data to Switzerland recently , due to US forcing them to give away transaction data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's kinda stupid to use email (or search data) for any kind of sensitive communication as long as it's run by a company as google - probably having an outpost in your own country and ready to serve police forces with any stored information on you (regardless of where servers are).
What this australian guy doesn't  like is that only US probably has full mass data mining capabilities over Google data, and they want that too.Google should just move mail to a neutral country which won't disclose data to foreign government without a good cause.
Swift moved data to Switzerland recently, due to US forcing them to give away transaction data.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31676704</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269940800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realize that Communism is an economic structure and Fascism is a political structure, right? You can have both.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realize that Communism is an economic structure and Fascism is a political structure , right ?
You can have both .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realize that Communism is an economic structure and Fascism is a political structure, right?
You can have both.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674250</id>
	<title>...let's check the facts.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269974940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If you had went back to Germany in the 20's and told them that within 20 years, their country would elect one of the most intolerant demagogues and world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of their population, they would have laughed at the thought.</p></div><p>They might not have expected actual genocide (I mean, no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition), but Weimar Germany was never a stable polity and everyone knew it. There was a monarchy before the war, which might not be Slashdot's favorite form of government, but it only got worse thereafter. The Kaiser's abdication in 1918 was immediately followed by violence in the streets between leftists and nationalists (who eventually all threw in their lot with the Nazis). There was even a short-lived "People's Republic of Bavaria" around this time, as well as the founding of the Nazi party itself. The various rebellions were eventually put down and replaced by the perpetually weak Weimar Republic, but they continued to operate. The brutal provisions of the Versailles treaty kept the country in a state of perpetual depression throughout the twenties (the famous hyperinflation was in 1923), causing widespread political discontent, characterized by street fights between socialists and nationalists. The government was already harassing leftist media outlets by the late 20's, before the Nazis even took power.
<br> <br>
They might have been intellectually sophisticated, but politically and economically sophisticated they were not. I know Australia and the UK hate freedom a lot, so I'm not saying it couldn't happen there, but the situation in Weimar Germany is really not at all comparable.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If you had went back to Germany in the 20 's and told them that within 20 years , their country would elect one of the most intolerant demagogues and world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of their population , they would have laughed at the thought.They might not have expected actual genocide ( I mean , no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition ) , but Weimar Germany was never a stable polity and everyone knew it .
There was a monarchy before the war , which might not be Slashdot 's favorite form of government , but it only got worse thereafter .
The Kaiser 's abdication in 1918 was immediately followed by violence in the streets between leftists and nationalists ( who eventually all threw in their lot with the Nazis ) .
There was even a short-lived " People 's Republic of Bavaria " around this time , as well as the founding of the Nazi party itself .
The various rebellions were eventually put down and replaced by the perpetually weak Weimar Republic , but they continued to operate .
The brutal provisions of the Versailles treaty kept the country in a state of perpetual depression throughout the twenties ( the famous hyperinflation was in 1923 ) , causing widespread political discontent , characterized by street fights between socialists and nationalists .
The government was already harassing leftist media outlets by the late 20 's , before the Nazis even took power .
They might have been intellectually sophisticated , but politically and economically sophisticated they were not .
I know Australia and the UK hate freedom a lot , so I 'm not saying it could n't happen there , but the situation in Weimar Germany is really not at all comparable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you had went back to Germany in the 20's and told them that within 20 years, their country would elect one of the most intolerant demagogues and world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of their population, they would have laughed at the thought.They might not have expected actual genocide (I mean, no-one expects the Spanish Inquisition), but Weimar Germany was never a stable polity and everyone knew it.
There was a monarchy before the war, which might not be Slashdot's favorite form of government, but it only got worse thereafter.
The Kaiser's abdication in 1918 was immediately followed by violence in the streets between leftists and nationalists (who eventually all threw in their lot with the Nazis).
There was even a short-lived "People's Republic of Bavaria" around this time, as well as the founding of the Nazi party itself.
The various rebellions were eventually put down and replaced by the perpetually weak Weimar Republic, but they continued to operate.
The brutal provisions of the Versailles treaty kept the country in a state of perpetual depression throughout the twenties (the famous hyperinflation was in 1923), causing widespread political discontent, characterized by street fights between socialists and nationalists.
The government was already harassing leftist media outlets by the late 20's, before the Nazis even took power.
They might have been intellectually sophisticated, but politically and economically sophisticated they were not.
I know Australia and the UK hate freedom a lot, so I'm not saying it couldn't happen there, but the situation in Weimar Germany is really not at all comparable.
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	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269971880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if you grant that he was right (which I absolutely 100\% do <b>not</b>) what he did was still horrible.  He ruined people's lives out of idle suspicion, with little to no evidence to back it up.  He split the country and indeed the world on how to handle communism and communist sympathizers and probably damaged his own goals at least as much as he helped them.  Anyone who disagreed with him was immediately investigated and accused, regardless of how flimsy the evidence was.  The man who called him out on the senate floor (Joseph Welch) was an American hero who showed real courage and could have just as easily have found himself being accused next.</p><p>As for the communists being 'everywhere', research has shown that of the more than 150 people accused by McCarthy evidence against them exists for only 9 of them.  A significant minority of the people would have come back clean enough on a background check that they would have been granted security clearances.  Finally, your assertion that communists took over one of the major parties I can only assume is idle trolling, I will simply respond by saying that if soviet controlled militant communists controlled 50\% of the government for the past 40 years history would have turned out rather differently.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if you grant that he was right ( which I absolutely 100 \ % do not ) what he did was still horrible .
He ruined people 's lives out of idle suspicion , with little to no evidence to back it up .
He split the country and indeed the world on how to handle communism and communist sympathizers and probably damaged his own goals at least as much as he helped them .
Anyone who disagreed with him was immediately investigated and accused , regardless of how flimsy the evidence was .
The man who called him out on the senate floor ( Joseph Welch ) was an American hero who showed real courage and could have just as easily have found himself being accused next.As for the communists being 'everywhere ' , research has shown that of the more than 150 people accused by McCarthy evidence against them exists for only 9 of them .
A significant minority of the people would have come back clean enough on a background check that they would have been granted security clearances .
Finally , your assertion that communists took over one of the major parties I can only assume is idle trolling , I will simply respond by saying that if soviet controlled militant communists controlled 50 \ % of the government for the past 40 years history would have turned out rather differently .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if you grant that he was right (which I absolutely 100\% do not) what he did was still horrible.
He ruined people's lives out of idle suspicion, with little to no evidence to back it up.
He split the country and indeed the world on how to handle communism and communist sympathizers and probably damaged his own goals at least as much as he helped them.
Anyone who disagreed with him was immediately investigated and accused, regardless of how flimsy the evidence was.
The man who called him out on the senate floor (Joseph Welch) was an American hero who showed real courage and could have just as easily have found himself being accused next.As for the communists being 'everywhere', research has shown that of the more than 150 people accused by McCarthy evidence against them exists for only 9 of them.
A significant minority of the people would have come back clean enough on a background check that they would have been granted security clearances.
Finally, your assertion that communists took over one of the major parties I can only assume is idle trolling, I will simply respond by saying that if soviet controlled militant communists controlled 50\% of the government for the past 40 years history would have turned out rather differently.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31673674</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269972960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Countries are abstractions with no rights whatsoever in the relevant sense. Nations, regardless of what the present ruling classes would find it convenient for everybody to believe, aren't the same thing as countries. But nations don't have rights, either.
</p><p>
Only people have rights. Your rights are not granted to you by your government or by your neighbors. They are universal. They are prior to law, and the only legitimate purpose of law is to protect them, not to define them.
</p><p>
Culture is an emergent phenomenon of people thinking, acting, and interacting. Not only can't it be set by fiat, but it's nonsensical to even think in those terms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Countries are abstractions with no rights whatsoever in the relevant sense .
Nations , regardless of what the present ruling classes would find it convenient for everybody to believe , are n't the same thing as countries .
But nations do n't have rights , either .
Only people have rights .
Your rights are not granted to you by your government or by your neighbors .
They are universal .
They are prior to law , and the only legitimate purpose of law is to protect them , not to define them .
Culture is an emergent phenomenon of people thinking , acting , and interacting .
Not only ca n't it be set by fiat , but it 's nonsensical to even think in those terms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Countries are abstractions with no rights whatsoever in the relevant sense.
Nations, regardless of what the present ruling classes would find it convenient for everybody to believe, aren't the same thing as countries.
But nations don't have rights, either.
Only people have rights.
Your rights are not granted to you by your government or by your neighbors.
They are universal.
They are prior to law, and the only legitimate purpose of law is to protect them, not to define them.
Culture is an emergent phenomenon of people thinking, acting, and interacting.
Not only can't it be set by fiat, but it's nonsensical to even think in those terms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674326</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1269975180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;1. the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scale</p><p>You clearly don't know history.  The destruction of Jewish stores/homes was perpetrated by government employees working for the National Socialist Party.   Tea Party supporters are not government employees.<br>.</p><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;2. intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascism</p><p>No.  Hitler banned private ownership of guns in order to prevent backlash, because he knew the danger if citizens finally got fed-up and started shooting back.  (See the Jewish Ghetto uprisings for examples.)</p><p>In a truly free society government does not need to fear the gun, because it is obeying the people's wishes rather than ignoring them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; 1 .
the angry tea partiers , with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger , IS kristallnacht , on a smaller scaleYou clearly do n't know history .
The destruction of Jewish stores/homes was perpetrated by government employees working for the National Socialist Party .
Tea Party supporters are not government employees.. &gt; &gt; &gt; 2 .
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascismNo .
Hitler banned private ownership of guns in order to prevent backlash , because he knew the danger if citizens finally got fed-up and started shooting back .
( See the Jewish Ghetto uprisings for examples .
) In a truly free society government does not need to fear the gun , because it is obeying the people 's wishes rather than ignoring them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;1.
the angry tea partiers, with their brick throwing and insane murderous anger, IS kristallnacht, on a smaller scaleYou clearly don't know history.
The destruction of Jewish stores/homes was perpetrated by government employees working for the National Socialist Party.
Tea Party supporters are not government employees..&gt;&gt;&gt;2.
intolerant deluded propagandized fools hording guns in the woods are the seeds of fascismNo.
Hitler banned private ownership of guns in order to prevent backlash, because he knew the danger if citizens finally got fed-up and started shooting back.
(See the Jewish Ghetto uprisings for examples.
)In a truly free society government does not need to fear the gun, because it is obeying the people's wishes rather than ignoring them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31679760</id>
	<title>Re:specifically</title>
	<author>complete loony</author>
	<datestamp>1269953220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>aka, what the world just experiences in 2008 (on a much smaller scale <b>so far</b>)</p></div><p>FTFY. In the early 1930's the world had <a href="http://newsfrom1930.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com">no idea</a> [blogspot.com] how far their economy would fall before it could be rebuilt. We've had our crash like in 1929, but it's going to take a few years for the true reality of our current situation to set in.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>aka , what the world just experiences in 2008 ( on a much smaller scale so far ) FTFY .
In the early 1930 's the world had no idea [ blogspot.com ] how far their economy would fall before it could be rebuilt .
We 've had our crash like in 1929 , but it 's going to take a few years for the true reality of our current situation to set in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aka, what the world just experiences in 2008 (on a much smaller scale so far)FTFY.
In the early 1930's the world had no idea [blogspot.com] how far their economy would fall before it could be rebuilt.
We've had our crash like in 1929, but it's going to take a few years for the true reality of our current situation to set in.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674286</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269975060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To clear something up: Hitler was not elected, the problem is nobody else was either. The parliament in germany was splitt in to too many groups so it was almost impossible to get the majority for president. To get around this the german cancelor had to hand the title from one group to the next. Hitler with his contacts within the police used the power to imprison all members of the oposing groups.<br>Since there where now laws dealing with this situation Hitler could and did rule germany with only the NSDAP in parliament. For the most germans the only visible change was positive. The parliament passed laws, created jobs (giant warmaschine) and found a group to blame for the poverty of the last decade (jews). Anyone speaking up against him was quickly silenced and the rest didn't care. After all the democratic goverment failed to provide any results in the years it existed and many people still remembered being ruled by a king where most things just worked (tm).</p><p>The german grundgesetz now has severall laws which only exist to stop a repeat of this.  Members of parliament cannot be imprisoned, any group needs a minimal percentage of votes to get seats in the parliament and the german president is only there for public events.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To clear something up : Hitler was not elected , the problem is nobody else was either .
The parliament in germany was splitt in to too many groups so it was almost impossible to get the majority for president .
To get around this the german cancelor had to hand the title from one group to the next .
Hitler with his contacts within the police used the power to imprison all members of the oposing groups.Since there where now laws dealing with this situation Hitler could and did rule germany with only the NSDAP in parliament .
For the most germans the only visible change was positive .
The parliament passed laws , created jobs ( giant warmaschine ) and found a group to blame for the poverty of the last decade ( jews ) .
Anyone speaking up against him was quickly silenced and the rest did n't care .
After all the democratic goverment failed to provide any results in the years it existed and many people still remembered being ruled by a king where most things just worked ( tm ) .The german grundgesetz now has severall laws which only exist to stop a repeat of this .
Members of parliament can not be imprisoned , any group needs a minimal percentage of votes to get seats in the parliament and the german president is only there for public events .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To clear something up: Hitler was not elected, the problem is nobody else was either.
The parliament in germany was splitt in to too many groups so it was almost impossible to get the majority for president.
To get around this the german cancelor had to hand the title from one group to the next.
Hitler with his contacts within the police used the power to imprison all members of the oposing groups.Since there where now laws dealing with this situation Hitler could and did rule germany with only the NSDAP in parliament.
For the most germans the only visible change was positive.
The parliament passed laws, created jobs (giant warmaschine) and found a group to blame for the poverty of the last decade (jews).
Anyone speaking up against him was quickly silenced and the rest didn't care.
After all the democratic goverment failed to provide any results in the years it existed and many people still remembered being ruled by a king where most things just worked (tm).The german grundgesetz now has severall laws which only exist to stop a repeat of this.
Members of parliament cannot be imprisoned, any group needs a minimal percentage of votes to get seats in the parliament and the german president is only there for public events.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31672632</id>
	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269969720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, I should point out that Germany before the 1930's was almost unquestionably the most academically and intellectually sophisticated country in the world. If you had went back to Germany in the 20's and told them that within 20 years, their country would elect one of the most intolerant demagogues and world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of their population, they would have laughed at the thought. We always like to think that we're above devolving into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianism; but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road. I wouldn't just dismiss it so casually.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At the risk of invoking Godwin 's Law , I should point out that Germany before the 1930 's was almost unquestionably the most academically and intellectually sophisticated country in the world .
If you had went back to Germany in the 20 's and told them that within 20 years , their country would elect one of the most intolerant demagogues and world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of their population , they would have laughed at the thought .
We always like to think that we 're above devolving into brutality , oppression , and totalitarianism ; but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road .
I would n't just dismiss it so casually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the risk of invoking Godwin's Law, I should point out that Germany before the 1930's was almost unquestionably the most academically and intellectually sophisticated country in the world.
If you had went back to Germany in the 20's and told them that within 20 years, their country would elect one of the most intolerant demagogues and world history as dictator and begin systematically committing the genocide of a sizable portion of their population, they would have laughed at the thought.
We always like to think that we're above devolving into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianism; but things can fall apart amazingly fast once you start heading down a certain road.
I wouldn't just dismiss it so casually.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674188</id>
	<title>Re:I would</title>
	<author>DeltaQH</author>
	<datestamp>1269974760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You certainly agree with Nazi Germany government to punish a foreign information company which refuses to deliver information that could identify people of jewish origin.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You certainly agree with Nazi Germany government to punish a foreign information company which refuses to deliver information that could identify people of jewish origin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You certainly agree with Nazi Germany government to punish a foreign information company which refuses to deliver information that could identify people of jewish origin.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31677600</id>
	<title>It's kind of ironic really...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269943620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That the education system relies on GMail in Australia for the student/teacher email accounts that they give out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That the education system relies on GMail in Australia for the student/teacher email accounts that they give out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That the education system relies on GMail in Australia for the student/teacher email accounts that they give out.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_30_1516247.31674872</id>
	<title>Fundamental difference between Australia and China</title>
	<author>Pteraspidomorphi</author>
	<datestamp>1269977280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Australia, people would care. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just move to Baidu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Australia , people would care .
I 'm pretty sure they would n't just move to Baidu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Australia, people would care.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't just move to Baidu.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269978780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It took a decade, but times have changed.  Information moves a lot more quickly these days, so I don't think it would take nearly as long to discredit a modern-day McCarthy.  Remember that a lot of the support for McCarthyism fell away after the McCarthy hearings were actually broadcast, and people could see what was actually going on.  That's where we got the quote, "Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?" It would be much harder for a modern day McCarthy to do something similar.<br> <br>
McCarthyism was a matter of a power hungry person taking advantage of a real threat to increase his own personal power. It isn't a new thing, and has happened from time to time <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien\_and\_Sedition\_Acts" title="wikipedia.org">since the beginning of the country</a> [wikipedia.org], and whenever it has happened, Americans have opposed it as soon as they realized what was going on. The solution is an alert and informed populace, and the result of the modern speed of communication can be seen in that Bush's attempt to consolidate power (based on the real threat of terrorism) was not nearly as horrible as McCarthy's or the federalists'.<br> <br>
On the other hand, if the population supports the power-hungry, then no amount of information will limit them. Fortunately for the US, the vast majority of Americans oppose this sort of thing when they are able to see it for what it is.  I suspect Australians are the same.</div>
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<tokenext>It took a decade , but times have changed .
Information moves a lot more quickly these days , so I do n't think it would take nearly as long to discredit a modern-day McCarthy .
Remember that a lot of the support for McCarthyism fell away after the McCarthy hearings were actually broadcast , and people could see what was actually going on .
That 's where we got the quote , " Have you no sense of decency , sir ?
At long last , have you left no sense of decency ?
" It would be much harder for a modern day McCarthy to do something similar .
McCarthyism was a matter of a power hungry person taking advantage of a real threat to increase his own personal power .
It is n't a new thing , and has happened from time to time since the beginning of the country [ wikipedia.org ] , and whenever it has happened , Americans have opposed it as soon as they realized what was going on .
The solution is an alert and informed populace , and the result of the modern speed of communication can be seen in that Bush 's attempt to consolidate power ( based on the real threat of terrorism ) was not nearly as horrible as McCarthy 's or the federalists' .
On the other hand , if the population supports the power-hungry , then no amount of information will limit them .
Fortunately for the US , the vast majority of Americans oppose this sort of thing when they are able to see it for what it is .
I suspect Australians are the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It took a decade, but times have changed.
Information moves a lot more quickly these days, so I don't think it would take nearly as long to discredit a modern-day McCarthy.
Remember that a lot of the support for McCarthyism fell away after the McCarthy hearings were actually broadcast, and people could see what was actually going on.
That's where we got the quote, "Have you no sense of decency, sir?
At long last, have you left no sense of decency?
" It would be much harder for a modern day McCarthy to do something similar.
McCarthyism was a matter of a power hungry person taking advantage of a real threat to increase his own personal power.
It isn't a new thing, and has happened from time to time since the beginning of the country [wikipedia.org], and whenever it has happened, Americans have opposed it as soon as they realized what was going on.
The solution is an alert and informed populace, and the result of the modern speed of communication can be seen in that Bush's attempt to consolidate power (based on the real threat of terrorism) was not nearly as horrible as McCarthy's or the federalists'.
On the other hand, if the population supports the power-hungry, then no amount of information will limit them.
Fortunately for the US, the vast majority of Americans oppose this sort of thing when they are able to see it for what it is.
I suspect Australians are the same.
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	<title>Re:Lol? Sif it will happen.</title>
	<author>rothic</author>
	<datestamp>1269979800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We always like to think that we're above devolving into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianism</p></div><p>Well, except for the ones that are silently hoping and waiting for us to devolve into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianism. This stuff doesn't just happen by accident.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></div>
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<tokenext>We always like to think that we 're above devolving into brutality , oppression , and totalitarianismWell , except for the ones that are silently hoping and waiting for us to devolve into brutality , oppression , and totalitarianism .
This stuff does n't just happen by accident .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We always like to think that we're above devolving into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianismWell, except for the ones that are silently hoping and waiting for us to devolve into brutality, oppression, and totalitarianism.
This stuff doesn't just happen by accident.
:-)
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	<title>Re:In the name of the Greatest US President ...</title>
	<author>Conchobair</author>
	<datestamp>1269970680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Hillary, Hold on a minute while I put my pants back on.  I can explain."<br> <br>
Okay maybe not the greatest, but to me the coolest.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hillary , Hold on a minute while I put my pants back on .
I can explain .
" Okay maybe not the greatest , but to me the coolest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hillary, Hold on a minute while I put my pants back on.
I can explain.
" 
Okay maybe not the greatest, but to me the coolest.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Senator Stephen Conroy == Senator Joe McCarthy?</title>
	<author>LordLimecat</author>
	<datestamp>1270050360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Didnt you see that interview from several months back?  I think Conroy made the comment "you dont know the things that are out there, you cant trust parents to keep their kids safe" (I cant find the exact link, but it was on a BBC interview).  That pretty much sums up whats happening here, government wants to raise your kids for you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Didnt you see that interview from several months back ?
I think Conroy made the comment " you dont know the things that are out there , you cant trust parents to keep their kids safe " ( I cant find the exact link , but it was on a BBC interview ) .
That pretty much sums up whats happening here , government wants to raise your kids for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Didnt you see that interview from several months back?
I think Conroy made the comment "you dont know the things that are out there, you cant trust parents to keep their kids safe" (I cant find the exact link, but it was on a BBC interview).
That pretty much sums up whats happening here, government wants to raise your kids for you.</sentencetext>
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	<title>No.</title>
	<author>jibjibjib</author>
	<datestamp>1269944880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Our Minister for communications etc. might be an idiot, but we're still a developed Western democracy in which the majority of the population have internet access and Google has most of the search engine market share. Blocking Google would be the end of this government and the internet filter; not a single voter would support it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Our Minister for communications etc .
might be an idiot , but we 're still a developed Western democracy in which the majority of the population have internet access and Google has most of the search engine market share .
Blocking Google would be the end of this government and the internet filter ; not a single voter would support it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Our Minister for communications etc.
might be an idiot, but we're still a developed Western democracy in which the majority of the population have internet access and Google has most of the search engine market share.
Blocking Google would be the end of this government and the internet filter; not a single voter would support it.</sentencetext>
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