<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_28_1740233</id>
	<title>The Technology Behind Formula 1 Racing</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1269801780000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>swandives writes <i>"The Australian Grand Prix F1 event is being held in Melbourne this weekend (27-28 March) and Computerworld Australia has interviewed the technology teams for BMW Sauber, McLaren Racing, Red Bull Racing, and Renault about <a href="http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/339594/how\_do\_they\_do\_it\_/?fp=4&amp;fpid=2359">how they run their IT systems</a> and how technology has changed the sport. Each car has about 100 sensors which capture data and send anywhere up to 20GB back to the pits during a race. The tech guys arrive a week before a race to set everything up &mdash; the kit for BMW Sauber weighs close to 3200 kilograms &mdash; and when it's all over, they pack it all up and move on to the next event. Good pics too."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>swandives writes " The Australian Grand Prix F1 event is being held in Melbourne this weekend ( 27-28 March ) and Computerworld Australia has interviewed the technology teams for BMW Sauber , McLaren Racing , Red Bull Racing , and Renault about how they run their IT systems and how technology has changed the sport .
Each car has about 100 sensors which capture data and send anywhere up to 20GB back to the pits during a race .
The tech guys arrive a week before a race to set everything up    the kit for BMW Sauber weighs close to 3200 kilograms    and when it 's all over , they pack it all up and move on to the next event .
Good pics too .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>swandives writes "The Australian Grand Prix F1 event is being held in Melbourne this weekend (27-28 March) and Computerworld Australia has interviewed the technology teams for BMW Sauber, McLaren Racing, Red Bull Racing, and Renault about how they run their IT systems and how technology has changed the sport.
Each car has about 100 sensors which capture data and send anywhere up to 20GB back to the pits during a race.
The tech guys arrive a week before a race to set everything up — the kit for BMW Sauber weighs close to 3200 kilograms — and when it's all over, they pack it all up and move on to the next event.
Good pics too.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31655294</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269866760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I call BS....these guys arent dropping 20lbs per race, they'd be dead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I call BS....these guys arent dropping 20lbs per race , they 'd be dead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I call BS....these guys arent dropping 20lbs per race, they'd be dead.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649306</id>
	<title>All that tech and...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269806220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They still make critical mistakes like the one that cost Lewis Hamilton second place and maybe the race in Melbourne. Sad really, that they rely so heavily on Tech that the "pit boss" doesn't matter any more, its what the computer tells them to do.</p><p>

You are right, soon it will be remote control racing with out humans.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They still make critical mistakes like the one that cost Lewis Hamilton second place and maybe the race in Melbourne .
Sad really , that they rely so heavily on Tech that the " pit boss " does n't matter any more , its what the computer tells them to do .
You are right , soon it will be remote control racing with out humans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They still make critical mistakes like the one that cost Lewis Hamilton second place and maybe the race in Melbourne.
Sad really, that they rely so heavily on Tech that the "pit boss" doesn't matter any more, its what the computer tells them to do.
You are right, soon it will be remote control racing with out humans.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649732</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269809520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because most of the races take place in the middle of the American night. It's difficult to build up sufficient grass-roots enthusiasm for the sport. If you can afford an F1 team, you can afford a football team* and, for an American, the latter would bring far greater kudos.</p><p>*I'm guessing. If I'm wrong, substitute "football team" for something else that fits and still makes my point valid, thanks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because most of the races take place in the middle of the American night .
It 's difficult to build up sufficient grass-roots enthusiasm for the sport .
If you can afford an F1 team , you can afford a football team * and , for an American , the latter would bring far greater kudos .
* I 'm guessing .
If I 'm wrong , substitute " football team " for something else that fits and still makes my point valid , thanks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because most of the races take place in the middle of the American night.
It's difficult to build up sufficient grass-roots enthusiasm for the sport.
If you can afford an F1 team, you can afford a football team* and, for an American, the latter would bring far greater kudos.
*I'm guessing.
If I'm wrong, substitute "football team" for something else that fits and still makes my point valid, thanks.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31655828</id>
	<title>3200 kilograms</title>
	<author>tokul</author>
	<datestamp>1269871320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about calling it '3.2 tons'? Even 'weights more than one ton' is impressive and you have more than three.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about calling it '3.2 tons ' ?
Even 'weights more than one ton ' is impressive and you have more than three .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about calling it '3.2 tons'?
Even 'weights more than one ton' is impressive and you have more than three.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649278</id>
	<title>All we need</title>
	<author>Beelzebud</author>
	<datestamp>1269806100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>All we need is a good computer analogy to explain this story!</htmltext>
<tokenext>All we need is a good computer analogy to explain this story !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All we need is a good computer analogy to explain this story!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649254</id>
	<title>Was held This weekend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269805920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When this was posted, the race had been over for more than 10 hours. They are all off to Kuala Lumpur for next weekends race.</p><p>Jensen Button (Uk, Maclaren) won a much more exciting race than the seasons opener two weeks ago in Bahrain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When this was posted , the race had been over for more than 10 hours .
They are all off to Kuala Lumpur for next weekends race.Jensen Button ( Uk , Maclaren ) won a much more exciting race than the seasons opener two weeks ago in Bahrain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When this was posted, the race had been over for more than 10 hours.
They are all off to Kuala Lumpur for next weekends race.Jensen Button (Uk, Maclaren) won a much more exciting race than the seasons opener two weeks ago in Bahrain.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649534</id>
	<title>Re:All we need</title>
	<author>Bugamn</author>
	<datestamp>1269808020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's as if we discovered that instead of algorithms, what really did the work inside the computer where little chinese men going up and down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's as if we discovered that instead of algorithms , what really did the work inside the computer where little chinese men going up and down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's as if we discovered that instead of algorithms, what really did the work inside the computer where little chinese men going up and down.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649412</id>
	<title>3200 kilograms?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269806940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is 3.2 tonnes, which is twice the weight of a regular SUV. I doubt the kit is 3200 kilograms. Maybe 3.2.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is 3.2 tonnes , which is twice the weight of a regular SUV .
I doubt the kit is 3200 kilograms .
Maybe 3.2 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is 3.2 tonnes, which is twice the weight of a regular SUV.
I doubt the kit is 3200 kilograms.
Maybe 3.2.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650416</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269771600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've always figured that if it doesn't require you to be in some semblance of decent physical shape, it's not really a sport.</p></div><p>I'm not sure I can think of a less physically demanding sport than formula 1.</p><p>Next time you want to sit in a tiny box at 40-50C, and continuously concentrate for 2 hours on something that requires reactions as fast as a human can manage, while undergoing upwards of 7 lateral Gs.  *Then* you can tell us that formula 1 isn't physically demanding.</p><p>The average driver loses 2 stone (12 kilograms for those on the continent) during a single race, because the sport is so physical.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always figured that if it does n't require you to be in some semblance of decent physical shape , it 's not really a sport.I 'm not sure I can think of a less physically demanding sport than formula 1.Next time you want to sit in a tiny box at 40-50C , and continuously concentrate for 2 hours on something that requires reactions as fast as a human can manage , while undergoing upwards of 7 lateral Gs .
* Then * you can tell us that formula 1 is n't physically demanding.The average driver loses 2 stone ( 12 kilograms for those on the continent ) during a single race , because the sport is so physical .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always figured that if it doesn't require you to be in some semblance of decent physical shape, it's not really a sport.I'm not sure I can think of a less physically demanding sport than formula 1.Next time you want to sit in a tiny box at 40-50C, and continuously concentrate for 2 hours on something that requires reactions as fast as a human can manage, while undergoing upwards of 7 lateral Gs.
*Then* you can tell us that formula 1 isn't physically demanding.The average driver loses 2 stone (12 kilograms for those on the continent) during a single race, because the sport is so physical.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649584</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269808380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why don't yanks take part in F1?</p></div><p>Because there's too much advertising money from NASCAR (Non-Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks) to care about anything else.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't yanks take part in F1 ? Because there 's too much advertising money from NASCAR ( Non-Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks ) to care about anything else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't yanks take part in F1?Because there's too much advertising money from NASCAR (Non-Athletic Sport Centered Around Rednecks) to care about anything else.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649538</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269808020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They only like watching huge cars running around giant scalectrix ovals so its easy to see the whole race from any one seat.</p><p>Plus, its got to be easy to handicap and bet on before the Yanks get interested.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They only like watching huge cars running around giant scalectrix ovals so its easy to see the whole race from any one seat.Plus , its got to be easy to handicap and bet on before the Yanks get interested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They only like watching huge cars running around giant scalectrix ovals so its easy to see the whole race from any one seat.Plus, its got to be easy to handicap and bet on before the Yanks get interested.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31658104</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1269881280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I just said I didn't understand why they are so insistent on being called a sport.</p></div><p>Probably for the same reason other people are so insistent on racing <em>not</em> being considered a sport.  If there wasn't some smartass chiming in with a 'but racing isn't a sport, lol' every time racing were mentioned, nobody would need to defend it.
</p><p>To put it another way, it's the same thing that would happen if you tried to claim tennis weren't a sport because of the technology in the rackets, or skiing weren't a sport because of the technology of the skis.  You'd end up with a lot of angry tennis players and skiers, not because they're militant by design, but because you made a silly claim with the intent of belittling their abilities.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just said I did n't understand why they are so insistent on being called a sport.Probably for the same reason other people are so insistent on racing not being considered a sport .
If there was n't some smartass chiming in with a 'but racing is n't a sport , lol ' every time racing were mentioned , nobody would need to defend it .
To put it another way , it 's the same thing that would happen if you tried to claim tennis were n't a sport because of the technology in the rackets , or skiing were n't a sport because of the technology of the skis .
You 'd end up with a lot of angry tennis players and skiers , not because they 're militant by design , but because you made a silly claim with the intent of belittling their abilities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just said I didn't understand why they are so insistent on being called a sport.Probably for the same reason other people are so insistent on racing not being considered a sport.
If there wasn't some smartass chiming in with a 'but racing isn't a sport, lol' every time racing were mentioned, nobody would need to defend it.
To put it another way, it's the same thing that would happen if you tried to claim tennis weren't a sport because of the technology in the rackets, or skiing weren't a sport because of the technology of the skis.
You'd end up with a lot of angry tennis players and skiers, not because they're militant by design, but because you made a silly claim with the intent of belittling their abilities.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649944</id>
	<title>Re:All that tech and...</title>
	<author>onepoint</author>
	<datestamp>1269767940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the 'pit boss' still has the final call, he just has more data to work with. besides, as today's race proves, driver courage to put on slicks proved to be decisive...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the 'pit boss ' still has the final call , he just has more data to work with .
besides , as today 's race proves , driver courage to put on slicks proved to be decisive.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the 'pit boss' still has the final call, he just has more data to work with.
besides, as today's race proves, driver courage to put on slicks proved to be decisive...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649510</id>
	<title>Good pics?</title>
	<author>hh4m</author>
	<datestamp>1269807840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good pics? Where? I didn't see a single pic of a server setup or wireless equipment<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good pics ?
Where ? I did n't see a single pic of a server setup or wireless equipment : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good pics?
Where? I didn't see a single pic of a server setup or wireless equipment :(</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649374</id>
	<title>YoU insensitive 3lod!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269806700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">Goal here? How can HXere, please do practical purposes Formed his own Wash oof hands</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Goal here ?
How can HXere , please do practical purposes Formed his own Wash oof hands [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Goal here?
How can HXere, please do practical purposes Formed his own Wash oof hands [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649252</id>
	<title>Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269805860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've always wanted to stop calling it a "sport".  It's called a "car geek competition" now.    -- I wonder how long will actual cars still be involved, and not just some 3D displays and simulations, due to danger, insurance or some other costs or whatever.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always wanted to stop calling it a " sport " .
It 's called a " car geek competition " now .
-- I wonder how long will actual cars still be involved , and not just some 3D displays and simulations , due to danger , insurance or some other costs or whatever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always wanted to stop calling it a "sport".
It's called a "car geek competition" now.
-- I wonder how long will actual cars still be involved, and not just some 3D displays and simulations, due to danger, insurance or some other costs or whatever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31658916</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269885120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; The average driver loses 2 stone (12 kilograms for those on the continent) during a single race</p><p>Sorry, I gotta raise the BS flag on this one.  I've heard of them losing 2 liters of fluid during a race, but 12kg?!  Not for someone who weighs barely more that a jockey<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The average driver loses 2 stone ( 12 kilograms for those on the continent ) during a single raceSorry , I got ta raise the BS flag on this one .
I 've heard of them losing 2 liters of fluid during a race , but 12kg ? !
Not for someone who weighs barely more that a jockey : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; The average driver loses 2 stone (12 kilograms for those on the continent) during a single raceSorry, I gotta raise the BS flag on this one.
I've heard of them losing 2 liters of fluid during a race, but 12kg?!
Not for someone who weighs barely more that a jockey :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31652366</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269787500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>UK and Australia have 1080i feeds, so I'd blame your local broadcaster not the sport.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>UK and Australia have 1080i feeds , so I 'd blame your local broadcaster not the sport .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>UK and Australia have 1080i feeds, so I'd blame your local broadcaster not the sport.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31656666</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Jawn98685</author>
	<datestamp>1269875400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've always wanted to stop calling it a "sport".</p>  </div><p>You've obviously never driven/ridden a high performance racing vehicle. If you had, of course, you'd know that the physical demands of the <i>sport</i> are very real and the athlete's ability to deal with them, while performing at level required to be competitive, or even just safe, in a domain where the importance of awareness, reaction time, and finesse are is magnified because of the speeds involved, is absolutely a factor.
<br>
But no. You're probably one of the many who make the superficial (and markedly ignorant) view that motor racing is "...just a bunch of cars going 'round in a circle..."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always wanted to stop calling it a " sport " .
You 've obviously never driven/ridden a high performance racing vehicle .
If you had , of course , you 'd know that the physical demands of the sport are very real and the athlete 's ability to deal with them , while performing at level required to be competitive , or even just safe , in a domain where the importance of awareness , reaction time , and finesse are is magnified because of the speeds involved , is absolutely a factor .
But no .
You 're probably one of the many who make the superficial ( and markedly ignorant ) view that motor racing is " ...just a bunch of cars going 'round in a circle... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always wanted to stop calling it a "sport".
You've obviously never driven/ridden a high performance racing vehicle.
If you had, of course, you'd know that the physical demands of the sport are very real and the athlete's ability to deal with them, while performing at level required to be competitive, or even just safe, in a domain where the importance of awareness, reaction time, and finesse are is magnified because of the speeds involved, is absolutely a factor.
But no.
You're probably one of the many who make the superficial (and markedly ignorant) view that motor racing is "...just a bunch of cars going 'round in a circle..."
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31653752</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269802680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>If you think there is no physical side to race car driving then I encourage you to ride as a passenger for one F1 race (not that you could)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I'd bet 2 months pay you couldn't stay conscious just being in the car for a race, let alone staying alert and driving. $50 says you couldn't sit in the car and deal with the heat alone for the length of time they do. $10 says you couldn't stand on the asphalt with the fire suit on for the 2 to 5 hour duration of a typical summer F1 in the US or Brazil or the like.</i>

<p>Driving in a hot car is a sport!  How enlightening.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think there is no physical side to race car driving then I encourage you to ride as a passenger for one F1 race ( not that you could ) ... I 'd bet 2 months pay you could n't stay conscious just being in the car for a race , let alone staying alert and driving .
$ 50 says you could n't sit in the car and deal with the heat alone for the length of time they do .
$ 10 says you could n't stand on the asphalt with the fire suit on for the 2 to 5 hour duration of a typical summer F1 in the US or Brazil or the like .
Driving in a hot car is a sport !
How enlightening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think there is no physical side to race car driving then I encourage you to ride as a passenger for one F1 race (not that you could) ... I'd bet 2 months pay you couldn't stay conscious just being in the car for a race, let alone staying alert and driving.
$50 says you couldn't sit in the car and deal with the heat alone for the length of time they do.
$10 says you couldn't stand on the asphalt with the fire suit on for the 2 to 5 hour duration of a typical summer F1 in the US or Brazil or the like.
Driving in a hot car is a sport!
How enlightening.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649522</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>zappepcs</author>
	<datestamp>1269807900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should technology not be in the sport of motor racing? It's technology that will push our passenger vehicles from 30-ish mpg to much more than that. Sure other vehicles can do more now, but lets take that ever popular SUV of USA. How do we get it making 75 mpg? Technology. The things that motor sports racing have done in the past have trickled down to passenger vehicles. If you want a damned flying car, it's going to need some technology! I say up with car geek competitions! Up in the air damnit!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should technology not be in the sport of motor racing ?
It 's technology that will push our passenger vehicles from 30-ish mpg to much more than that .
Sure other vehicles can do more now , but lets take that ever popular SUV of USA .
How do we get it making 75 mpg ?
Technology. The things that motor sports racing have done in the past have trickled down to passenger vehicles .
If you want a damned flying car , it 's going to need some technology !
I say up with car geek competitions !
Up in the air damnit !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should technology not be in the sport of motor racing?
It's technology that will push our passenger vehicles from 30-ish mpg to much more than that.
Sure other vehicles can do more now, but lets take that ever popular SUV of USA.
How do we get it making 75 mpg?
Technology. The things that motor sports racing have done in the past have trickled down to passenger vehicles.
If you want a damned flying car, it's going to need some technology!
I say up with car geek competitions!
Up in the air damnit!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31652234</id>
	<title>Re:F1 Technology eh</title>
	<author>turbidostato</author>
	<datestamp>1269786360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"What the wiki doesn't say (but I remember) is Senna complained that the removal of active suspension from the vehicles might get someone killed. What happened was two drivers were killed Senna and Roland Ratzenberger."</p><p>But you certainly seem to forget that neither Senna nor Ratzenberger were killed because anything related to active suspension, but a case of bad luck.</p><p>The case of Ratzenberger was understandable (was a terrible accident at very high speed) while others having gone without injuries from similar situations.</p><p>But the case of Senna was a terribly hard punch of the worst luck -what are the chances for a piece of the car to go exactly through the short window on his helmet?</p><p>"I wonder how many lives off the track have been lost because F1 does not do this job anymore."</p><p>You can't be wronger.  F1 is today as technosavvy as always, it's only it's pointing technology to different objectives -which, while disputable if on purpouse or not, are much more aligned with mass production cars than ever.</p><p>Current F1 cars have to be more robust, more stable, more economic than ever.  There's no point on 1500 HP engines, active suspension, massive turbochargers or floor effects for mass production but there is a point for better mileage, engines that last longer, better passive security or better general-purpose grip and stability over tyres that don't seem taken from a 20Tm bulldozer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" What the wiki does n't say ( but I remember ) is Senna complained that the removal of active suspension from the vehicles might get someone killed .
What happened was two drivers were killed Senna and Roland Ratzenberger .
" But you certainly seem to forget that neither Senna nor Ratzenberger were killed because anything related to active suspension , but a case of bad luck.The case of Ratzenberger was understandable ( was a terrible accident at very high speed ) while others having gone without injuries from similar situations.But the case of Senna was a terribly hard punch of the worst luck -what are the chances for a piece of the car to go exactly through the short window on his helmet ?
" I wonder how many lives off the track have been lost because F1 does not do this job anymore .
" You ca n't be wronger .
F1 is today as technosavvy as always , it 's only it 's pointing technology to different objectives -which , while disputable if on purpouse or not , are much more aligned with mass production cars than ever.Current F1 cars have to be more robust , more stable , more economic than ever .
There 's no point on 1500 HP engines , active suspension , massive turbochargers or floor effects for mass production but there is a point for better mileage , engines that last longer , better passive security or better general-purpose grip and stability over tyres that do n't seem taken from a 20Tm bulldozer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"What the wiki doesn't say (but I remember) is Senna complained that the removal of active suspension from the vehicles might get someone killed.
What happened was two drivers were killed Senna and Roland Ratzenberger.
"But you certainly seem to forget that neither Senna nor Ratzenberger were killed because anything related to active suspension, but a case of bad luck.The case of Ratzenberger was understandable (was a terrible accident at very high speed) while others having gone without injuries from similar situations.But the case of Senna was a terribly hard punch of the worst luck -what are the chances for a piece of the car to go exactly through the short window on his helmet?
"I wonder how many lives off the track have been lost because F1 does not do this job anymore.
"You can't be wronger.
F1 is today as technosavvy as always, it's only it's pointing technology to different objectives -which, while disputable if on purpouse or not, are much more aligned with mass production cars than ever.Current F1 cars have to be more robust, more stable, more economic than ever.
There's no point on 1500 HP engines, active suspension, massive turbochargers or floor effects for mass production but there is a point for better mileage, engines that last longer, better passive security or better general-purpose grip and stability over tyres that don't seem taken from a 20Tm bulldozer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649826</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1269767040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because our favorite racing (stock car) descended from moonshine running. And if a car doesn't look like its got a few plastic jugs of homemade hootch in the trunk, it just doesn't interest us.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because our favorite racing ( stock car ) descended from moonshine running .
And if a car does n't look like its got a few plastic jugs of homemade hootch in the trunk , it just does n't interest us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because our favorite racing (stock car) descended from moonshine running.
And if a car doesn't look like its got a few plastic jugs of homemade hootch in the trunk, it just doesn't interest us.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31690678</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1270062780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The footage is produced in HD. FOM have chosen not to provide HD feeds to broadcasters.</p><p>I can only assume that this is because they have not agreed a financial deal that they are happy with yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The footage is produced in HD .
FOM have chosen not to provide HD feeds to broadcasters.I can only assume that this is because they have not agreed a financial deal that they are happy with yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The footage is produced in HD.
FOM have chosen not to provide HD feeds to broadcasters.I can only assume that this is because they have not agreed a financial deal that they are happy with yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650006</id>
	<title>The best in the world</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269768540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The tech in F1 is outstanding.  They are above and beyond all other forms of motor racing and car technology in general.  The Le Mans Prototypes are the only thing approaching F1 levels.<br> <br>

There was a point a few years ago (before the new regulations went into effect) where they were worried that the intake speed of the air into the engine was approaching supersonic.  Nobody really knew what that would do to the engines (read: intake manifold).<br> <br>

Last year, on Speed channel, Steve Matchett was interviewing a Red Bull engineer, and the engineer basically said that the real life "Q" from British Intelligence had approached them with questions about their tech.  That really says something about the level that F1 plays at.<br> <br>

Here is an interesting fact: Despite all the limiting regulations that have been put in place, including reduced aero packages, no refueling, no traction control, etc., this weekend at Melbourne a new lap record was set by Vettel.  The old lap record was set in 2004 with a V10 engine revving to probably 21,000 rpms.  Current engine is a 2.4L V8 probably revving to 18,000 rpms.  So, despite all the restrictions, the teams are still able to move the technology forward so drastically that they are basically nullifying the FIA's (sport governing body) efforts to slow the cars down.<br> <br>

As an American working with technology, I would hope that more of my peers appreciated the extreme cutting edge that F1 dances on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The tech in F1 is outstanding .
They are above and beyond all other forms of motor racing and car technology in general .
The Le Mans Prototypes are the only thing approaching F1 levels .
There was a point a few years ago ( before the new regulations went into effect ) where they were worried that the intake speed of the air into the engine was approaching supersonic .
Nobody really knew what that would do to the engines ( read : intake manifold ) .
Last year , on Speed channel , Steve Matchett was interviewing a Red Bull engineer , and the engineer basically said that the real life " Q " from British Intelligence had approached them with questions about their tech .
That really says something about the level that F1 plays at .
Here is an interesting fact : Despite all the limiting regulations that have been put in place , including reduced aero packages , no refueling , no traction control , etc. , this weekend at Melbourne a new lap record was set by Vettel .
The old lap record was set in 2004 with a V10 engine revving to probably 21,000 rpms .
Current engine is a 2.4L V8 probably revving to 18,000 rpms .
So , despite all the restrictions , the teams are still able to move the technology forward so drastically that they are basically nullifying the FIA 's ( sport governing body ) efforts to slow the cars down .
As an American working with technology , I would hope that more of my peers appreciated the extreme cutting edge that F1 dances on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The tech in F1 is outstanding.
They are above and beyond all other forms of motor racing and car technology in general.
The Le Mans Prototypes are the only thing approaching F1 levels.
There was a point a few years ago (before the new regulations went into effect) where they were worried that the intake speed of the air into the engine was approaching supersonic.
Nobody really knew what that would do to the engines (read: intake manifold).
Last year, on Speed channel, Steve Matchett was interviewing a Red Bull engineer, and the engineer basically said that the real life "Q" from British Intelligence had approached them with questions about their tech.
That really says something about the level that F1 plays at.
Here is an interesting fact: Despite all the limiting regulations that have been put in place, including reduced aero packages, no refueling, no traction control, etc., this weekend at Melbourne a new lap record was set by Vettel.
The old lap record was set in 2004 with a V10 engine revving to probably 21,000 rpms.
Current engine is a 2.4L V8 probably revving to 18,000 rpms.
So, despite all the restrictions, the teams are still able to move the technology forward so drastically that they are basically nullifying the FIA's (sport governing body) efforts to slow the cars down.
As an American working with technology, I would hope that more of my peers appreciated the extreme cutting edge that F1 dances on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649888</id>
	<title>Re:Was held This weekend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269767520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Best F1 race I've seen in a while.  Very exciting and TONS of passing.

I guess rain is the answer to F1's boredom problem?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Best F1 race I 've seen in a while .
Very exciting and TONS of passing .
I guess rain is the answer to F1 's boredom problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Best F1 race I've seen in a while.
Very exciting and TONS of passing.
I guess rain is the answer to F1's boredom problem?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649428</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>zonky</author>
	<datestamp>1269807060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The technology is so intense in F1......<p>

that they haven't even got around to producing HD TV feeds yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The technology is so intense in F1..... . that they have n't even got around to producing HD TV feeds yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The technology is so intense in F1......

that they haven't even got around to producing HD TV feeds yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31652972</id>
	<title>Re:What do they do with the data?</title>
	<author>sjasmund</author>
	<datestamp>1269794400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do data acquisition/telemetry/electronics with endurance racing teams in ALMS and other series.  While we don't have quite the infrastructure that F1 teams have, we do collect quite a bit of data.  In the car, there is a data acquisition system consisting of a combination display/logger, which also collects data from several other components on the car via CAN network.  Data can be logged at speeds up to 1000 Hz for detailed analysis once the car is downloaded in the pits.  This data is also broadcast via telemetry while the car is on track.  The Engine Control Unit has it's own logging capability as well, which collects engine parameters and traction control data.  We also collect video whenever the car is on track.</p><p>The data we collect is used for several key purposes.</p><p>1. Driver performance -- The drivers use a handful of logged channels (steering angle, throttle position, gear, brake pressures, lat/lon G, etc.) to compare laps.  With the data, we can overlay laps to compare where time is gained or lost in relation to other laps for a driver or compare to their teammate/co-driver.  This helps both drivers to see how things can be done better, which improves laps times.</p><p>2. Engineering -- Sensors such as damper (shock) position, ride heights, aero pressures, etc. allow us to quantify what the drivers are telling us.  Ultimately, we have to tune the handling of the car to what will allow the drivers to go the fastest.  After each outing or session, we'll debrief and they'll tell us what the car is doing in various places around the track.  We then use the data to help identify what it is the car is doing physically and what adjustments need to be made to give the driver a better car.</p><p>3. Health of the car -- Many channels (temperatures, pressures, amperages, etc.) give us a picture of the health of the car.  The car must be reliable and this information can tell us if a component is failing.  Even though we can't send data to the car while it's on track, there are ways that we can utilize some of the redundancies built into the systems (electrical systems anyhow) or change other things to help assure the car will make it to the finish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do data acquisition/telemetry/electronics with endurance racing teams in ALMS and other series .
While we do n't have quite the infrastructure that F1 teams have , we do collect quite a bit of data .
In the car , there is a data acquisition system consisting of a combination display/logger , which also collects data from several other components on the car via CAN network .
Data can be logged at speeds up to 1000 Hz for detailed analysis once the car is downloaded in the pits .
This data is also broadcast via telemetry while the car is on track .
The Engine Control Unit has it 's own logging capability as well , which collects engine parameters and traction control data .
We also collect video whenever the car is on track.The data we collect is used for several key purposes.1 .
Driver performance -- The drivers use a handful of logged channels ( steering angle , throttle position , gear , brake pressures , lat/lon G , etc .
) to compare laps .
With the data , we can overlay laps to compare where time is gained or lost in relation to other laps for a driver or compare to their teammate/co-driver .
This helps both drivers to see how things can be done better , which improves laps times.2 .
Engineering -- Sensors such as damper ( shock ) position , ride heights , aero pressures , etc .
allow us to quantify what the drivers are telling us .
Ultimately , we have to tune the handling of the car to what will allow the drivers to go the fastest .
After each outing or session , we 'll debrief and they 'll tell us what the car is doing in various places around the track .
We then use the data to help identify what it is the car is doing physically and what adjustments need to be made to give the driver a better car.3 .
Health of the car -- Many channels ( temperatures , pressures , amperages , etc .
) give us a picture of the health of the car .
The car must be reliable and this information can tell us if a component is failing .
Even though we ca n't send data to the car while it 's on track , there are ways that we can utilize some of the redundancies built into the systems ( electrical systems anyhow ) or change other things to help assure the car will make it to the finish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do data acquisition/telemetry/electronics with endurance racing teams in ALMS and other series.
While we don't have quite the infrastructure that F1 teams have, we do collect quite a bit of data.
In the car, there is a data acquisition system consisting of a combination display/logger, which also collects data from several other components on the car via CAN network.
Data can be logged at speeds up to 1000 Hz for detailed analysis once the car is downloaded in the pits.
This data is also broadcast via telemetry while the car is on track.
The Engine Control Unit has it's own logging capability as well, which collects engine parameters and traction control data.
We also collect video whenever the car is on track.The data we collect is used for several key purposes.1.
Driver performance -- The drivers use a handful of logged channels (steering angle, throttle position, gear, brake pressures, lat/lon G, etc.
) to compare laps.
With the data, we can overlay laps to compare where time is gained or lost in relation to other laps for a driver or compare to their teammate/co-driver.
This helps both drivers to see how things can be done better, which improves laps times.2.
Engineering -- Sensors such as damper (shock) position, ride heights, aero pressures, etc.
allow us to quantify what the drivers are telling us.
Ultimately, we have to tune the handling of the car to what will allow the drivers to go the fastest.
After each outing or session, we'll debrief and they'll tell us what the car is doing in various places around the track.
We then use the data to help identify what it is the car is doing physically and what adjustments need to be made to give the driver a better car.3.
Health of the car -- Many channels (temperatures, pressures, amperages, etc.
) give us a picture of the health of the car.
The car must be reliable and this information can tell us if a component is failing.
Even though we can't send data to the car while it's on track, there are ways that we can utilize some of the redundancies built into the systems (electrical systems anyhow) or change other things to help assure the car will make it to the finish.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650718</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269773700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't suggest that Formula 1 racers aren't physically fit.  I also didn't suggest that Formula 1 isn't a sport.</p><p>I just said I didn't understand why they are so insistent on being called a sport.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't suggest that Formula 1 racers are n't physically fit .
I also did n't suggest that Formula 1 is n't a sport.I just said I did n't understand why they are so insistent on being called a sport .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't suggest that Formula 1 racers aren't physically fit.
I also didn't suggest that Formula 1 isn't a sport.I just said I didn't understand why they are so insistent on being called a sport.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650090</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>boudie2</author>
	<datestamp>1269769320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are
merely games."
&mdash; Ernest Hemingway.

I would take issue with your equating men who risk their lives at 200 miles per hour with
geeks. Michael Schumacher isn't a geek. Someone who sits in their mom's basement
playing some stupid racing game while not realizing what a loser that makes him is a geek.
IMHO there's a lot of good things about modern technology. Games aren't one of them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" There are only three sports : bullfighting , motor racing , and mountaineering ; all the rest are merely games .
"    Ernest Hemingway .
I would take issue with your equating men who risk their lives at 200 miles per hour with geeks .
Michael Schumacher is n't a geek .
Someone who sits in their mom 's basement playing some stupid racing game while not realizing what a loser that makes him is a geek .
IMHO there 's a lot of good things about modern technology .
Games are n't one of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There are only three sports: bullfighting, motor racing, and mountaineering; all the rest are
merely games.
"
— Ernest Hemingway.
I would take issue with your equating men who risk their lives at 200 miles per hour with
geeks.
Michael Schumacher isn't a geek.
Someone who sits in their mom's basement
playing some stupid racing game while not realizing what a loser that makes him is a geek.
IMHO there's a lot of good things about modern technology.
Games aren't one of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31652206</id>
	<title>Re:What do they do with the data?</title>
	<author>Chuck Chunder</author>
	<datestamp>1269786120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which bits are useful probably depends on what's happening. In the most recent race for example Lewis Hamilton appeared to lose a small piece of his front wing. McLaren were very quickly able to determine the performance impact of the "modification" and determine that is wasn't serious enough to spend time changing the nose cone. Is the engine running too hot, are the tire pressures too low, is the front not generating enough downforce etc etc etc? There are a lot of variables that can effect the cars real world performance and they need to be managed if the team is going to get the most of their car.

Secondly the current rules means that teams get very little track time for testing so all the data they can retrieve during a race will be useful in confirming (or not) their existing modeling/wind tunnel results and informing them for future developments. Teams frequently bring new part designs to each race and the first time they will be used on the car will be that race weekend. Without the sensor data there would be no way to quantitatively confirm that the new designs are more effective than the previous ones.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which bits are useful probably depends on what 's happening .
In the most recent race for example Lewis Hamilton appeared to lose a small piece of his front wing .
McLaren were very quickly able to determine the performance impact of the " modification " and determine that is was n't serious enough to spend time changing the nose cone .
Is the engine running too hot , are the tire pressures too low , is the front not generating enough downforce etc etc etc ?
There are a lot of variables that can effect the cars real world performance and they need to be managed if the team is going to get the most of their car .
Secondly the current rules means that teams get very little track time for testing so all the data they can retrieve during a race will be useful in confirming ( or not ) their existing modeling/wind tunnel results and informing them for future developments .
Teams frequently bring new part designs to each race and the first time they will be used on the car will be that race weekend .
Without the sensor data there would be no way to quantitatively confirm that the new designs are more effective than the previous ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which bits are useful probably depends on what's happening.
In the most recent race for example Lewis Hamilton appeared to lose a small piece of his front wing.
McLaren were very quickly able to determine the performance impact of the "modification" and determine that is wasn't serious enough to spend time changing the nose cone.
Is the engine running too hot, are the tire pressures too low, is the front not generating enough downforce etc etc etc?
There are a lot of variables that can effect the cars real world performance and they need to be managed if the team is going to get the most of their car.
Secondly the current rules means that teams get very little track time for testing so all the data they can retrieve during a race will be useful in confirming (or not) their existing modeling/wind tunnel results and informing them for future developments.
Teams frequently bring new part designs to each race and the first time they will be used on the car will be that race weekend.
Without the sensor data there would be no way to quantitatively confirm that the new designs are more effective than the previous ones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649236</id>
	<title>Lewis Hamilton...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269805800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...is a nigger!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...is a nigger !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...is a nigger!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650908</id>
	<title>McLaren's technology for air-traffic control...</title>
	<author>bagsta</author>
	<datestamp>1269774780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>...there is a very interesting <a href="http://www.wired.co.uk/wired-magazine/archive/2010/04/features/work-smarter-mclaren.aspx" title="wired.co.uk" rel="nofollow">article</a> [wired.co.uk] in this UK Wired's issue regarding how the Heathrow air-traffic controllers are going to use the McLaren's proprietary software to simulate air-traffic like an F1 race...</htmltext>
<tokenext>...there is a very interesting article [ wired.co.uk ] in this UK Wired 's issue regarding how the Heathrow air-traffic controllers are going to use the McLaren 's proprietary software to simulate air-traffic like an F1 race.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...there is a very interesting article [wired.co.uk] in this UK Wired's issue regarding how the Heathrow air-traffic controllers are going to use the McLaren's proprietary software to simulate air-traffic like an F1 race...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649552</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269808080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They do. With that, and having Money&amp;Space, they built plenty of tracks and race leagues on home soil. Result is F1 has to be imported into a physcial and social infrastructure that's already well-packed with aggressively competing motorsports. The very expensive F1 races just can't get a foothold there now. Hence plenty of yanks who enjoy F1 just follow it in the media and see the races on vacation.</p><p>F1 is a very EU sort of thing; no single European nation could be sufficient base, so they joined together to present a market roughly the size of the US, which was sufficient. Hence we're always going to have this parallel of similar-but-not-quite-the-same sports, like the two that are called 'football'.</p><p>There are other factors one could jaw about, but that's the foundation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do .
With that , and having Money&amp;Space , they built plenty of tracks and race leagues on home soil .
Result is F1 has to be imported into a physcial and social infrastructure that 's already well-packed with aggressively competing motorsports .
The very expensive F1 races just ca n't get a foothold there now .
Hence plenty of yanks who enjoy F1 just follow it in the media and see the races on vacation.F1 is a very EU sort of thing ; no single European nation could be sufficient base , so they joined together to present a market roughly the size of the US , which was sufficient .
Hence we 're always going to have this parallel of similar-but-not-quite-the-same sports , like the two that are called 'football'.There are other factors one could jaw about , but that 's the foundation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They do.
With that, and having Money&amp;Space, they built plenty of tracks and race leagues on home soil.
Result is F1 has to be imported into a physcial and social infrastructure that's already well-packed with aggressively competing motorsports.
The very expensive F1 races just can't get a foothold there now.
Hence plenty of yanks who enjoy F1 just follow it in the media and see the races on vacation.F1 is a very EU sort of thing; no single European nation could be sufficient base, so they joined together to present a market roughly the size of the US, which was sufficient.
Hence we're always going to have this parallel of similar-but-not-quite-the-same sports, like the two that are called 'football'.There are other factors one could jaw about, but that's the foundation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31660882</id>
	<title>Re:F1 Technology eh</title>
	<author>Knuckles</author>
	<datestamp>1269893640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's true that a suspension part going through his helmet is what killed Senna, but he went off the road in the first place because his car bottomed out on a bump into the Tamburello corner. It's pretty reasonable to argue that this wouldn't have happened with an active suspension, especially since drivers - and most of all Senna - had been complaining  all season that the removal of active suspension from cars that were built for it makes them difficult to control. As far as I am concerned this premature removal was yet another error of the governing body, the FIA. And generally, the FIA is what really is wrong with F1.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's true that a suspension part going through his helmet is what killed Senna , but he went off the road in the first place because his car bottomed out on a bump into the Tamburello corner .
It 's pretty reasonable to argue that this would n't have happened with an active suspension , especially since drivers - and most of all Senna - had been complaining all season that the removal of active suspension from cars that were built for it makes them difficult to control .
As far as I am concerned this premature removal was yet another error of the governing body , the FIA .
And generally , the FIA is what really is wrong with F1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's true that a suspension part going through his helmet is what killed Senna, but he went off the road in the first place because his car bottomed out on a bump into the Tamburello corner.
It's pretty reasonable to argue that this wouldn't have happened with an active suspension, especially since drivers - and most of all Senna - had been complaining  all season that the removal of active suspension from cars that were built for it makes them difficult to control.
As far as I am concerned this premature removal was yet another error of the governing body, the FIA.
And generally, the FIA is what really is wrong with F1.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649430</id>
	<title>US Participation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269807060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why don't yanks take part in F1?</p><p>I thought you loved racing cars about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do n't yanks take part in F1 ? I thought you loved racing cars about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why don't yanks take part in F1?I thought you loved racing cars about.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31653886</id>
	<title>Re:What do they do with the data?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269803940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So they can analyse both the car's performance (after the race) and the driver's performance.</p><p>There was a segment on TopGear where Richard Hammond took a F1 car around the track.</p><p>They were able to say that he hit peak acceleration for 0.5 seconds (or something like that.) They briefly showed graphs that plotted speed, acceleration, etc, real time for his trip around the lap. For drivers in practice sessions, they can look at data like that after the session and work out where they're going to slow, where they can speed up, etc.</p><p>In practice sessions, it is not uncommon for them to change aero configurations, tyres, etc. The data lets them compare how the changes impact the performance and loading on the car without just looking at lap times and if the driver was faster or slower.</p><p>By collecting all of this data, you're able to determine how many revolutions the engine really does, how the temperature of the engine varies according to the stress, etc. Using that data you're then able to design future engines that meet the load requirements that you know exist in real world conditions. That doesn't mean you can't test but it does get your first round of engineering at least into the right ballpark.</p><p>How much difference does this make?<br>Well, there's all of the weight of the wires going everywhere in the car plus the transmitter to send it back to base. So maybe a couple of extra kilograms? There's also the small antenna mounted on the external surface to transmit that data. All told, I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 1\%.</p><p>http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/f1/439315/mclaren-electronics-fuels-analysis.html<br>http://www.asiaone.com/Motoring/Motorworld/Story/A1Story20080924-89835.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So they can analyse both the car 's performance ( after the race ) and the driver 's performance.There was a segment on TopGear where Richard Hammond took a F1 car around the track.They were able to say that he hit peak acceleration for 0.5 seconds ( or something like that .
) They briefly showed graphs that plotted speed , acceleration , etc , real time for his trip around the lap .
For drivers in practice sessions , they can look at data like that after the session and work out where they 're going to slow , where they can speed up , etc.In practice sessions , it is not uncommon for them to change aero configurations , tyres , etc .
The data lets them compare how the changes impact the performance and loading on the car without just looking at lap times and if the driver was faster or slower.By collecting all of this data , you 're able to determine how many revolutions the engine really does , how the temperature of the engine varies according to the stress , etc .
Using that data you 're then able to design future engines that meet the load requirements that you know exist in real world conditions .
That does n't mean you ca n't test but it does get your first round of engineering at least into the right ballpark.How much difference does this make ? Well , there 's all of the weight of the wires going everywhere in the car plus the transmitter to send it back to base .
So maybe a couple of extra kilograms ?
There 's also the small antenna mounted on the external surface to transmit that data .
All told , I would n't be surprised if it was less than 1 \ % .http : //www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/f1/439315/mclaren-electronics-fuels-analysis.htmlhttp : //www.asiaone.com/Motoring/Motorworld/Story/A1Story20080924-89835.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So they can analyse both the car's performance (after the race) and the driver's performance.There was a segment on TopGear where Richard Hammond took a F1 car around the track.They were able to say that he hit peak acceleration for 0.5 seconds (or something like that.
) They briefly showed graphs that plotted speed, acceleration, etc, real time for his trip around the lap.
For drivers in practice sessions, they can look at data like that after the session and work out where they're going to slow, where they can speed up, etc.In practice sessions, it is not uncommon for them to change aero configurations, tyres, etc.
The data lets them compare how the changes impact the performance and loading on the car without just looking at lap times and if the driver was faster or slower.By collecting all of this data, you're able to determine how many revolutions the engine really does, how the temperature of the engine varies according to the stress, etc.
Using that data you're then able to design future engines that meet the load requirements that you know exist in real world conditions.
That doesn't mean you can't test but it does get your first round of engineering at least into the right ballpark.How much difference does this make?Well, there's all of the weight of the wires going everywhere in the car plus the transmitter to send it back to base.
So maybe a couple of extra kilograms?
There's also the small antenna mounted on the external surface to transmit that data.
All told, I wouldn't be surprised if it was less than 1\%.http://www.racecar-engineering.com/articles/f1/439315/mclaren-electronics-fuels-analysis.htmlhttp://www.asiaone.com/Motoring/Motorworld/Story/A1Story20080924-89835.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649634</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269808920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bass fishing isn't hunting.  Show me a mountain goat guide and I'll show you a guy who is physically fit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bass fishing is n't hunting .
Show me a mountain goat guide and I 'll show you a guy who is physically fit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bass fishing isn't hunting.
Show me a mountain goat guide and I'll show you a guy who is physically fit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31653804</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Jarik\_Tentsu</author>
	<datestamp>1269803220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, F1 drivers are awesome. Yes, I couldn't hope to drive as good as they can. But what differentiates the winner comes largely down to the technology, and the workers in the pits - as opposed to differentiation in skill.</p><p>Sure you can argue other conventional sports rely largely on fancy sports medicine, or whatnot, but really, it's not to the same level as F1. Differentiation in other sports comes more down to the skill, morale and strategies employed by the team/individual who are *on the field*.</p><p>Rally driving on the other hand, certainly seems to have more emphasis on driving/navigation skill. I was just <a href="http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-500-craigslist-car-beat-400k-rally-racers" title="jalopnik.com">reading any article</a> [jalopnik.com] about how someone built up a cheap E30 318i which cost him $500 + money on cheap modifications. With no team, no fancy tools, he placed 3rd in a rally against $400k+ professional race cars with full teams. You'd never see that in F1.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , F1 drivers are awesome .
Yes , I could n't hope to drive as good as they can .
But what differentiates the winner comes largely down to the technology , and the workers in the pits - as opposed to differentiation in skill.Sure you can argue other conventional sports rely largely on fancy sports medicine , or whatnot , but really , it 's not to the same level as F1 .
Differentiation in other sports comes more down to the skill , morale and strategies employed by the team/individual who are * on the field * .Rally driving on the other hand , certainly seems to have more emphasis on driving/navigation skill .
I was just reading any article [ jalopnik.com ] about how someone built up a cheap E30 318i which cost him $ 500 + money on cheap modifications .
With no team , no fancy tools , he placed 3rd in a rally against $ 400k + professional race cars with full teams .
You 'd never see that in F1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, F1 drivers are awesome.
Yes, I couldn't hope to drive as good as they can.
But what differentiates the winner comes largely down to the technology, and the workers in the pits - as opposed to differentiation in skill.Sure you can argue other conventional sports rely largely on fancy sports medicine, or whatnot, but really, it's not to the same level as F1.
Differentiation in other sports comes more down to the skill, morale and strategies employed by the team/individual who are *on the field*.Rally driving on the other hand, certainly seems to have more emphasis on driving/navigation skill.
I was just reading any article [jalopnik.com] about how someone built up a cheap E30 318i which cost him $500 + money on cheap modifications.
With no team, no fancy tools, he placed 3rd in a rally against $400k+ professional race cars with full teams.
You'd never see that in F1.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31656270</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Scootin159</author>
	<datestamp>1269873780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>+1 - as someone who HAS driven a formula race car before (even one not remotely as fast as an F1 car, but still immensely quicker than any street car), I can confirm that it is VERY physically demanding.  You wouldn't believe the amount of effort it takes just to keep your head upright.  I'm a fairly decent athlete (although not pro caliber), yet before doing a concentrated workout routine, I couldn't go more than about 5 laps before I was just too physically tired to continue safely.</p><p>It's a fairly minor workout for your legs (although remember that the brake pedal of an F1 car takes nearly 100# of force to push down, ~15 times a lap for 50 laps), but it is a VERY intense workout for your arms and neck.</p><p>Anyone who doubts this - I challenge them to just 5 minutes in a 125cc go kart.  Despite having nowhere near the capabilities of an F1 car, you'll still get a sense of the physical exhaustion involved.  If you can go 20 minutes (at speed) without special training, I commend you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>+ 1 - as someone who HAS driven a formula race car before ( even one not remotely as fast as an F1 car , but still immensely quicker than any street car ) , I can confirm that it is VERY physically demanding .
You would n't believe the amount of effort it takes just to keep your head upright .
I 'm a fairly decent athlete ( although not pro caliber ) , yet before doing a concentrated workout routine , I could n't go more than about 5 laps before I was just too physically tired to continue safely.It 's a fairly minor workout for your legs ( although remember that the brake pedal of an F1 car takes nearly 100 # of force to push down , ~ 15 times a lap for 50 laps ) , but it is a VERY intense workout for your arms and neck.Anyone who doubts this - I challenge them to just 5 minutes in a 125cc go kart .
Despite having nowhere near the capabilities of an F1 car , you 'll still get a sense of the physical exhaustion involved .
If you can go 20 minutes ( at speed ) without special training , I commend you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>+1 - as someone who HAS driven a formula race car before (even one not remotely as fast as an F1 car, but still immensely quicker than any street car), I can confirm that it is VERY physically demanding.
You wouldn't believe the amount of effort it takes just to keep your head upright.
I'm a fairly decent athlete (although not pro caliber), yet before doing a concentrated workout routine, I couldn't go more than about 5 laps before I was just too physically tired to continue safely.It's a fairly minor workout for your legs (although remember that the brake pedal of an F1 car takes nearly 100# of force to push down, ~15 times a lap for 50 laps), but it is a VERY intense workout for your arms and neck.Anyone who doubts this - I challenge them to just 5 minutes in a 125cc go kart.
Despite having nowhere near the capabilities of an F1 car, you'll still get a sense of the physical exhaustion involved.
If you can go 20 minutes (at speed) without special training, I commend you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649488</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269807660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I've always wanted to stop calling it a "sport"</p></div></blockquote><p>I've never why some fans insist on auto racing's inclusion as a "sport".  Why do they care if it's recognized as a sport, anyway?  I know there's great skill involved, but there are lots of activities that require skill that aren't sports.  Same thing with hunting.  Why do hunters care about being recognized as "sportsmen"?</p><p>Are the guys who put out poisoned baits for rats in city alleys also sportsmen?  They also have to use skill and technology to kill animals.  Or is it because hunters have "fun" doing it?</p><p>I'm not trying to put down people who hunt or fish, and I understand that there's a rich "history" of ritual killing of animals in human societies, and that in some families it's creates a long-standing connection between generations.  I'm just curious about why they care about the "sport" label.</p><p>I've always figured that if it doesn't require you to be in some semblance of decent physical shape, it's not really a sport.  And judging from the people I've seen going into the Bass Pro Shop, physical fitness doesn't seem to be a requirement.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've always wanted to stop calling it a " sport " I 've never why some fans insist on auto racing 's inclusion as a " sport " .
Why do they care if it 's recognized as a sport , anyway ?
I know there 's great skill involved , but there are lots of activities that require skill that are n't sports .
Same thing with hunting .
Why do hunters care about being recognized as " sportsmen " ? Are the guys who put out poisoned baits for rats in city alleys also sportsmen ?
They also have to use skill and technology to kill animals .
Or is it because hunters have " fun " doing it ? I 'm not trying to put down people who hunt or fish , and I understand that there 's a rich " history " of ritual killing of animals in human societies , and that in some families it 's creates a long-standing connection between generations .
I 'm just curious about why they care about the " sport " label.I 've always figured that if it does n't require you to be in some semblance of decent physical shape , it 's not really a sport .
And judging from the people I 've seen going into the Bass Pro Shop , physical fitness does n't seem to be a requirement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've always wanted to stop calling it a "sport"I've never why some fans insist on auto racing's inclusion as a "sport".
Why do they care if it's recognized as a sport, anyway?
I know there's great skill involved, but there are lots of activities that require skill that aren't sports.
Same thing with hunting.
Why do hunters care about being recognized as "sportsmen"?Are the guys who put out poisoned baits for rats in city alleys also sportsmen?
They also have to use skill and technology to kill animals.
Or is it because hunters have "fun" doing it?I'm not trying to put down people who hunt or fish, and I understand that there's a rich "history" of ritual killing of animals in human societies, and that in some families it's creates a long-standing connection between generations.
I'm just curious about why they care about the "sport" label.I've always figured that if it doesn't require you to be in some semblance of decent physical shape, it's not really a sport.
And judging from the people I've seen going into the Bass Pro Shop, physical fitness doesn't seem to be a requirement.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649322</id>
	<title>We're talking about computers here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269806340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it 3200 kilograms or 3.125 kibigrams?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it 3200 kilograms or 3.125 kibigrams ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it 3200 kilograms or 3.125 kibigrams?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31652302</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>fropenn</author>
	<datestamp>1269786960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There are F1 fans in North America...or at least there were back when F1 ran races in North America! Might I mention how badly F1 mangled the U.S. race at Indy a few years ago?

Personally I much prefer F1 over IRL and NASCAR, but I don't see F1 catching on anytime soon in the U.S. And that's too bad - it seems to be a much higher quality product than either IRL or NASCAR.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There are F1 fans in North America...or at least there were back when F1 ran races in North America !
Might I mention how badly F1 mangled the U.S. race at Indy a few years ago ?
Personally I much prefer F1 over IRL and NASCAR , but I do n't see F1 catching on anytime soon in the U.S. And that 's too bad - it seems to be a much higher quality product than either IRL or NASCAR .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are F1 fans in North America...or at least there were back when F1 ran races in North America!
Might I mention how badly F1 mangled the U.S. race at Indy a few years ago?
Personally I much prefer F1 over IRL and NASCAR, but I don't see F1 catching on anytime soon in the U.S. And that's too bad - it seems to be a much higher quality product than either IRL or NASCAR.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31653914</id>
	<title>Watch out</title>
	<author>WinstonWolfIT</author>
	<datestamp>1269804540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the cruise control ever gets locked, it may get dicey.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the cruise control ever gets locked , it may get dicey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the cruise control ever gets locked, it may get dicey.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649598</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>Spad</author>
	<datestamp>1269808620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.usgpe.com/" title="usgpe.com">http://www.usgpe.com/</a> [usgpe.com]</p><p>They almost managed to build a car in time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.usgpe.com/ [ usgpe.com ] They almost managed to build a car in time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.usgpe.com/ [usgpe.com]They almost managed to build a car in time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649258</id>
	<title>first (non ac) post...ever</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269805920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>woo hoo. zoom zoom.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>woo hoo .
zoom zoom .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>woo hoo.
zoom zoom.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650464</id>
	<title>Re:Was held This weekend</title>
	<author>beelsebob</author>
	<datestamp>1269771900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I guess rain is the answer to F1's boredom problem?</p></div><p>I'm not sure it was rain, so much as making sure Lewis Hamilton is put behind a bunch of people.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I guess rain is the answer to F1 's boredom problem ? I 'm not sure it was rain , so much as making sure Lewis Hamilton is put behind a bunch of people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I guess rain is the answer to F1's boredom problem?I'm not sure it was rain, so much as making sure Lewis Hamilton is put behind a bunch of people.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650052</id>
	<title>a look a virgin's 100\% CFD</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1269768900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>As Virgin racing have gone for a 100\% CFD approach it would be interesting to see a write up on their set up that they use to design the car.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As Virgin racing have gone for a 100 \ % CFD approach it would be interesting to see a write up on their set up that they use to design the car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As Virgin racing have gone for a 100\% CFD approach it would be interesting to see a write up on their set up that they use to design the car.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649574</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>amorsen</author>
	<datestamp>1269808200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>US cars don't do corners, remember?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>US cars do n't do corners , remember ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US cars don't do corners, remember?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649356</id>
	<title>CFD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269806580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lots of the teams use CFD to help design their cars but basically CFD doesn't work anywhere near as well as old fashioned wind tunnel testing and so all the top teams spend all year (24/7!) doing tunnel testing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots of the teams use CFD to help design their cars but basically CFD does n't work anywhere near as well as old fashioned wind tunnel testing and so all the top teams spend all year ( 24/7 !
) doing tunnel testing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots of the teams use CFD to help design their cars but basically CFD doesn't work anywhere near as well as old fashioned wind tunnel testing and so all the top teams spend all year (24/7!
) doing tunnel testing!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31654680</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1269858660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>wel becuase each races coverage is done by the individual countries braodcasters</htmltext>
<tokenext>wel becuase each races coverage is done by the individual countries braodcasters</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wel becuase each races coverage is done by the individual countries braodcasters</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649564</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1269808140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps you should look up the definition of sport<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...  I'll help, heres one that matters:</p><p>1. (General Sporting Terms) an individual or group activity pursued for exercise or pleasure, often involving the testing of physical capabilities and taking the form of a competitive game such as football, tennis, etc.</p><p>If you think there is  no physical side to race car driving then I encourage you to ride as a passenger for one F1 race (not that you could)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I'd bet 2 months pay you couldn't stay conscious just being in the car for a race, let alone staying alert and driving.  $50 says you couldn't sit in the car and deal with the heat alone for the length of time they do.  $10 says you couldn't stand on the asphalt with the fire suit on for the 2 to 5 hour duration of a typical summer F1 in the US or Brazil or the like.</p><p>You post makes it clear that you have no clue whats involved in racing and think when you watch the Indy 500 on TV that its really as easy as it looks on camera.</p><p>Yes, high end racing such as NASCAR, F1 and IndyCar (amount other less popular ones) have a great dependency on technology.  So does football even if you don't realize it cause its not as obvious.  When you consider that several types of racing limit the technology to something from one vendor then the tech matters a whole shitload less.  IndyCar for instance uses one engine manufacture and one chassis manufacture and one brand of tire (that may have changed this year, they haven't really figured out their plan yet).  So it doesn't matter that they have outrageous technology cause everyone else has the EXACT same tech, once again putting the human perspective back into it.  Indy does try a little harder than F1 to make the field more consistent where as F1 is more open and as such has more expensive cars, but you'll find far more varying technology in your local walmart parking lot than you will at any modern high end racing event short of maybe some LeMans events with multiple classes of cars in one race.</p><p>Where there are large sums of money involved there are going to be people trying to maximize their portion of those large sums of money however they can and technology is a good reliable starting point for that.  Of course its far easier on slashdot to read some article and start proclaiming things like your an expert about something you really don't understand at all.  Congrats, you got that part down perfect!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps you should look up the definition of sport ... I 'll help , heres one that matters : 1 .
( General Sporting Terms ) an individual or group activity pursued for exercise or pleasure , often involving the testing of physical capabilities and taking the form of a competitive game such as football , tennis , etc.If you think there is no physical side to race car driving then I encourage you to ride as a passenger for one F1 race ( not that you could ) ... I 'd bet 2 months pay you could n't stay conscious just being in the car for a race , let alone staying alert and driving .
$ 50 says you could n't sit in the car and deal with the heat alone for the length of time they do .
$ 10 says you could n't stand on the asphalt with the fire suit on for the 2 to 5 hour duration of a typical summer F1 in the US or Brazil or the like.You post makes it clear that you have no clue whats involved in racing and think when you watch the Indy 500 on TV that its really as easy as it looks on camera.Yes , high end racing such as NASCAR , F1 and IndyCar ( amount other less popular ones ) have a great dependency on technology .
So does football even if you do n't realize it cause its not as obvious .
When you consider that several types of racing limit the technology to something from one vendor then the tech matters a whole shitload less .
IndyCar for instance uses one engine manufacture and one chassis manufacture and one brand of tire ( that may have changed this year , they have n't really figured out their plan yet ) .
So it does n't matter that they have outrageous technology cause everyone else has the EXACT same tech , once again putting the human perspective back into it .
Indy does try a little harder than F1 to make the field more consistent where as F1 is more open and as such has more expensive cars , but you 'll find far more varying technology in your local walmart parking lot than you will at any modern high end racing event short of maybe some LeMans events with multiple classes of cars in one race.Where there are large sums of money involved there are going to be people trying to maximize their portion of those large sums of money however they can and technology is a good reliable starting point for that .
Of course its far easier on slashdot to read some article and start proclaiming things like your an expert about something you really do n't understand at all .
Congrats , you got that part down perfect !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps you should look up the definition of sport ...  I'll help, heres one that matters:1.
(General Sporting Terms) an individual or group activity pursued for exercise or pleasure, often involving the testing of physical capabilities and taking the form of a competitive game such as football, tennis, etc.If you think there is  no physical side to race car driving then I encourage you to ride as a passenger for one F1 race (not that you could) ... I'd bet 2 months pay you couldn't stay conscious just being in the car for a race, let alone staying alert and driving.
$50 says you couldn't sit in the car and deal with the heat alone for the length of time they do.
$10 says you couldn't stand on the asphalt with the fire suit on for the 2 to 5 hour duration of a typical summer F1 in the US or Brazil or the like.You post makes it clear that you have no clue whats involved in racing and think when you watch the Indy 500 on TV that its really as easy as it looks on camera.Yes, high end racing such as NASCAR, F1 and IndyCar (amount other less popular ones) have a great dependency on technology.
So does football even if you don't realize it cause its not as obvious.
When you consider that several types of racing limit the technology to something from one vendor then the tech matters a whole shitload less.
IndyCar for instance uses one engine manufacture and one chassis manufacture and one brand of tire (that may have changed this year, they haven't really figured out their plan yet).
So it doesn't matter that they have outrageous technology cause everyone else has the EXACT same tech, once again putting the human perspective back into it.
Indy does try a little harder than F1 to make the field more consistent where as F1 is more open and as such has more expensive cars, but you'll find far more varying technology in your local walmart parking lot than you will at any modern high end racing event short of maybe some LeMans events with multiple classes of cars in one race.Where there are large sums of money involved there are going to be people trying to maximize their portion of those large sums of money however they can and technology is a good reliable starting point for that.
Of course its far easier on slashdot to read some article and start proclaiming things like your an expert about something you really don't understand at all.
Congrats, you got that part down perfect!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649678</id>
	<title>Re:US Participation</title>
	<author>Huntr</author>
	<datestamp>1269809160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We like racing where the drivers and crew matter more than the computers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We like racing where the drivers and crew matter more than the computers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We like racing where the drivers and crew matter more than the computers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650444</id>
	<title>Re:What do they do with the data?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269771780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have followed Formula One for many years, and enjoy the technical side just as much as the racing.</p><p>The huge amount of data has many uses. These days, many of the teams have test rigs back at the factory, so they can re-create the x,y,z motion of a race on a car, and investigate part failures or how to fix them, or even investigate if something is over-engineered so they can shave weight and thus shave lap times.</p><p>Additionally, some teams have developed their own simulators that the drivers sit in, and they can test out various configurations of the car, with weather patterns etc. and "drive" round a circuit. This is more beneficial now as the amount of real track testing has been severely restricted though the off-season and in-season. Some places like Monaco are street circuits, so the only practice and data you will get is during an actual race.</p><p>And finally, with more teams using computational fluid analysis of their cars aerodynamic packages, the data that the teams thought they would get can be matched with what they actually got, and refine their engineering calculations, and so save money on expensive x\% sized model or full size mock-ups... autoclaves for carbon fiber are not cheap to run, and scrapping a part that you thought would work but didn't is equally not cheap, let alone the man hours wasted in manufacture.</p><p>If it can be seen to give tenths of a second per lap improvement, the teams would count that as reasonable success.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have followed Formula One for many years , and enjoy the technical side just as much as the racing.The huge amount of data has many uses .
These days , many of the teams have test rigs back at the factory , so they can re-create the x,y,z motion of a race on a car , and investigate part failures or how to fix them , or even investigate if something is over-engineered so they can shave weight and thus shave lap times.Additionally , some teams have developed their own simulators that the drivers sit in , and they can test out various configurations of the car , with weather patterns etc .
and " drive " round a circuit .
This is more beneficial now as the amount of real track testing has been severely restricted though the off-season and in-season .
Some places like Monaco are street circuits , so the only practice and data you will get is during an actual race.And finally , with more teams using computational fluid analysis of their cars aerodynamic packages , the data that the teams thought they would get can be matched with what they actually got , and refine their engineering calculations , and so save money on expensive x \ % sized model or full size mock-ups... autoclaves for carbon fiber are not cheap to run , and scrapping a part that you thought would work but did n't is equally not cheap , let alone the man hours wasted in manufacture.If it can be seen to give tenths of a second per lap improvement , the teams would count that as reasonable success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have followed Formula One for many years, and enjoy the technical side just as much as the racing.The huge amount of data has many uses.
These days, many of the teams have test rigs back at the factory, so they can re-create the x,y,z motion of a race on a car, and investigate part failures or how to fix them, or even investigate if something is over-engineered so they can shave weight and thus shave lap times.Additionally, some teams have developed their own simulators that the drivers sit in, and they can test out various configurations of the car, with weather patterns etc.
and "drive" round a circuit.
This is more beneficial now as the amount of real track testing has been severely restricted though the off-season and in-season.
Some places like Monaco are street circuits, so the only practice and data you will get is during an actual race.And finally, with more teams using computational fluid analysis of their cars aerodynamic packages, the data that the teams thought they would get can be matched with what they actually got, and refine their engineering calculations, and so save money on expensive x\% sized model or full size mock-ups... autoclaves for carbon fiber are not cheap to run, and scrapping a part that you thought would work but didn't is equally not cheap, let alone the man hours wasted in manufacture.If it can be seen to give tenths of a second per lap improvement, the teams would count that as reasonable success.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31652424</id>
	<title>Re:Great! Now we can call it something else!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269788220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The average driver loses 2 stone (12 kilograms for those on the continent) during a single race, because the sport is so physical.</p></div><p>citation fucking needed.</p><p>Concentrating, sweating, and using your muscles to compensate for high G forces will definitely cause you to lose more weight than the normal driver just going down the highway, but 99.9999999\% of that is just going to be the water from the sweating.  Which <b>cannot</b> account for 12 kilograms.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The average driver loses 2 stone ( 12 kilograms for those on the continent ) during a single race , because the sport is so physical.citation fucking needed.Concentrating , sweating , and using your muscles to compensate for high G forces will definitely cause you to lose more weight than the normal driver just going down the highway , but 99.9999999 \ % of that is just going to be the water from the sweating .
Which can not account for 12 kilograms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The average driver loses 2 stone (12 kilograms for those on the continent) during a single race, because the sport is so physical.citation fucking needed.Concentrating, sweating, and using your muscles to compensate for high G forces will definitely cause you to lose more weight than the normal driver just going down the highway, but 99.9999999\% of that is just going to be the water from the sweating.
Which cannot account for 12 kilograms.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650488</id>
	<title>There's an actual computer war in F1</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269772140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Much can be said about the technology that goes into F1 but there's also a darker side that steps both feet firmly into the traditional wars fought with actual weapons and religions.</p><p>Intel (the chip company, that is) supports and sponsors several of the teams.  Intel's recent Core chip line came in part from their Israeli engineering offices.  This was noticed.</p><p>When other teams wanted IT sponsors, they went to AMD and to assorted Arabic sponsors seeking not only sponsorship but also offering a way to attack the perceived intel-Israel ties held by some other teams.</p><p>This is one of the reasons Ferrari gained AMD and assorted sponsors from the Arab countries; and of course Ferrari has very strong ties in that area anyway.</p><p>This is also one of the reasons AMD has heavy investment from Arab-based sources. If intel is aligned with Israel, of course the option is to support intel's enemy.  And AMD needs the money, so...  it works out.  The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all.</p><p>You bet I am posting this anonymously.  But all of what I've said can be found on the sponsor decals of the teams and in intel and AMD's annual reports and history.   It's there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Much can be said about the technology that goes into F1 but there 's also a darker side that steps both feet firmly into the traditional wars fought with actual weapons and religions.Intel ( the chip company , that is ) supports and sponsors several of the teams .
Intel 's recent Core chip line came in part from their Israeli engineering offices .
This was noticed.When other teams wanted IT sponsors , they went to AMD and to assorted Arabic sponsors seeking not only sponsorship but also offering a way to attack the perceived intel-Israel ties held by some other teams.This is one of the reasons Ferrari gained AMD and assorted sponsors from the Arab countries ; and of course Ferrari has very strong ties in that area anyway.This is also one of the reasons AMD has heavy investment from Arab-based sources .
If intel is aligned with Israel , of course the option is to support intel 's enemy .
And AMD needs the money , so... it works out .
The enemy of my enemy is my friend , and all.You bet I am posting this anonymously .
But all of what I 've said can be found on the sponsor decals of the teams and in intel and AMD 's annual reports and history .
It 's there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Much can be said about the technology that goes into F1 but there's also a darker side that steps both feet firmly into the traditional wars fought with actual weapons and religions.Intel (the chip company, that is) supports and sponsors several of the teams.
Intel's recent Core chip line came in part from their Israeli engineering offices.
This was noticed.When other teams wanted IT sponsors, they went to AMD and to assorted Arabic sponsors seeking not only sponsorship but also offering a way to attack the perceived intel-Israel ties held by some other teams.This is one of the reasons Ferrari gained AMD and assorted sponsors from the Arab countries; and of course Ferrari has very strong ties in that area anyway.This is also one of the reasons AMD has heavy investment from Arab-based sources.
If intel is aligned with Israel, of course the option is to support intel's enemy.
And AMD needs the money, so...  it works out.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and all.You bet I am posting this anonymously.
But all of what I've said can be found on the sponsor decals of the teams and in intel and AMD's annual reports and history.
It's there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650016</id>
	<title>What do they do with the data?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269768600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was amazed to read this entire article and not learn:</p><p>a) what do they do with the data they collect?  I'd have loved to learn what sensor data is valuable for, and how it changes the dynamics of the race.  (Who cares how many bits they ship if you have no idea if the bits are \_useful\_ bits?)</p><p>b) how much of an impact does this have on the race?  Does this make a 1\% difference in track times, 80\%, something in the middle?</p><p>Anyone have a link to an article which explains \_why\_ they collect all this data?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was amazed to read this entire article and not learn : a ) what do they do with the data they collect ?
I 'd have loved to learn what sensor data is valuable for , and how it changes the dynamics of the race .
( Who cares how many bits they ship if you have no idea if the bits are \ _useful \ _ bits ?
) b ) how much of an impact does this have on the race ?
Does this make a 1 \ % difference in track times , 80 \ % , something in the middle ? Anyone have a link to an article which explains \ _why \ _ they collect all this data ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was amazed to read this entire article and not learn:a) what do they do with the data they collect?
I'd have loved to learn what sensor data is valuable for, and how it changes the dynamics of the race.
(Who cares how many bits they ship if you have no idea if the bits are \_useful\_ bits?
)b) how much of an impact does this have on the race?
Does this make a 1\% difference in track times, 80\%, something in the middle?Anyone have a link to an article which explains \_why\_ they collect all this data?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31650478</id>
	<title>F1 Technology eh</title>
	<author>MrKaos</author>
	<datestamp>1269772020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of the main points of F1  is to advance car Technology (it's why disc brakes were invented) and whilst I still enjoy the racing the point of it was destroyed by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayrton\_Senna#1994:\_Williams" title="wikipedia.org">death of Ayrton Senna back in 1994.</a> [wikipedia.org] <p>
What the wiki doesn't say (but I remember) is Senna complained that the removal of active suspension from the vehicles might get someone killed. What happened was two drivers were killed Senna and Roland Ratzenberger.</p><p>
So as cool as this all is it's not as advanced as it should be. Those cars racing around out on the track had a job beyond racing to make automotive technology as advanced as it can be. I wonder how many lives off the track have been lost because F1 does not do this job anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the main points of F1 is to advance car Technology ( it 's why disc brakes were invented ) and whilst I still enjoy the racing the point of it was destroyed by the death of Ayrton Senna back in 1994 .
[ wikipedia.org ] What the wiki does n't say ( but I remember ) is Senna complained that the removal of active suspension from the vehicles might get someone killed .
What happened was two drivers were killed Senna and Roland Ratzenberger .
So as cool as this all is it 's not as advanced as it should be .
Those cars racing around out on the track had a job beyond racing to make automotive technology as advanced as it can be .
I wonder how many lives off the track have been lost because F1 does not do this job anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the main points of F1  is to advance car Technology (it's why disc brakes were invented) and whilst I still enjoy the racing the point of it was destroyed by the death of Ayrton Senna back in 1994.
[wikipedia.org] 
What the wiki doesn't say (but I remember) is Senna complained that the removal of active suspension from the vehicles might get someone killed.
What happened was two drivers were killed Senna and Roland Ratzenberger.
So as cool as this all is it's not as advanced as it should be.
Those cars racing around out on the track had a job beyond racing to make automotive technology as advanced as it can be.
I wonder how many lives off the track have been lost because F1 does not do this job anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649414</id>
	<title>Zoom</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269807000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>is how i drive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>is how i drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is how i drive.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31649662</id>
	<title>Re:All that tech and...</title>
	<author>fbjon</author>
	<datestamp>1269809100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is no remote control, actually. The teams are only allowed two-way voice radio and one-way telemetry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no remote control , actually .
The teams are only allowed two-way voice radio and one-way telemetry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no remote control, actually.
The teams are only allowed two-way voice radio and one-way telemetry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_1740233.31652666</id>
	<title>Re:The best in the world</title>
	<author>Buelldozer</author>
	<datestamp>1269790320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree that the technology level in F1 is very high, even extremely high. Is it the HIGHEST? Of that I'm not so sure. I think the MotoGP guys might have a thing or two to say about that. They're doing roughly the same speeds but on two wheels. The WRC guys would probably argue as well. They may not be going as fast but their races are far more punishing on the cars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that the technology level in F1 is very high , even extremely high .
Is it the HIGHEST ?
Of that I 'm not so sure .
I think the MotoGP guys might have a thing or two to say about that .
They 're doing roughly the same speeds but on two wheels .
The WRC guys would probably argue as well .
They may not be going as fast but their races are far more punishing on the cars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that the technology level in F1 is very high, even extremely high.
Is it the HIGHEST?
Of that I'm not so sure.
I think the MotoGP guys might have a thing or two to say about that.
They're doing roughly the same speeds but on two wheels.
The WRC guys would probably argue as well.
They may not be going as fast but their races are far more punishing on the cars.</sentencetext>
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