<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_28_0019228</id>
	<title>Slimming Down a Supercomputer</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1269801720000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>1sockchuck writes <i>"<em>Happy Feet</em> animator Dr. D Studios has packed a large amount of supercomputing power into a smaller package in its <a href="http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2010/03/25/rendering-happy-feet-2-at-30kw-a-rack/">new render farm</a> in Sydney, Australia. The digital production shop has consolidated the 150 blade chassis used in the 2007 dancing penguin feature into just 24 chassis, entirely housed in a <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/169048,video-building-a-supercomputer-for-happy-feet-2-mad-max-4.aspx">hot-aisle containment pod</a>. The Dr. D render farm has moved from its previous home at Equinix to the E3 Pegasus data center in Sydney. <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/168797,video-e3s-ever-expanding-sydney-pegasus-data-centre.aspx">ITNews has a video</a> and <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/Gallery/167869,inside-the-expanding-e3-networks-datacentre.aspx/1">photos of the E3 facility</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>1sockchuck writes " Happy Feet animator Dr. D Studios has packed a large amount of supercomputing power into a smaller package in its new render farm in Sydney , Australia .
The digital production shop has consolidated the 150 blade chassis used in the 2007 dancing penguin feature into just 24 chassis , entirely housed in a hot-aisle containment pod .
The Dr. D render farm has moved from its previous home at Equinix to the E3 Pegasus data center in Sydney .
ITNews has a video and photos of the E3 facility .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1sockchuck writes "Happy Feet animator Dr. D Studios has packed a large amount of supercomputing power into a smaller package in its new render farm in Sydney, Australia.
The digital production shop has consolidated the 150 blade chassis used in the 2007 dancing penguin feature into just 24 chassis, entirely housed in a hot-aisle containment pod.
The Dr. D render farm has moved from its previous home at Equinix to the E3 Pegasus data center in Sydney.
ITNews has a video and photos of the E3 facility.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646550</id>
	<title>who manages their security?</title>
	<author>dropadrop</author>
	<datestamp>1269782220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The power cables are so easily accessible on the roof?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The power cables are so easily accessible on the roof ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The power cables are so easily accessible on the roof?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645662</id>
	<title>already exists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269719640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I thought they already made a <a href="http://www.myps3.com.au/img/news/Slim-PS3-in-Spring--1.jpg" title="myps3.com.au" rel="nofollow">slim supercomputer</a> [myps3.com.au]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I thought they already made a slim supercomputer [ myps3.com.au ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I thought they already made a slim supercomputer [myps3.com.au]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645652</id>
	<title>So instead of happy feet....</title>
	<author>allaunjsilverfox2</author>
	<datestamp>1269719340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He has burning feet?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p Had to say it. It's interesting to see the reduction in space.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He has burning feet ?
: p Had to say it .
It 's interesting to see the reduction in space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He has burning feet?
:p Had to say it.
It's interesting to see the reduction in space.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645792</id>
	<title>I read TFA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269808500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was a billion times more entertaining than Happy Feet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was a billion times more entertaining than Happy Feet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was a billion times more entertaining than Happy Feet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31648480</id>
	<title>And the point is...?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269800640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is really necessary to pack this so thightly? Isn't the refrigerating cost overhead worth it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is really necessary to pack this so thightly ?
Is n't the refrigerating cost overhead worth it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is really necessary to pack this so thightly?
Isn't the refrigerating cost overhead worth it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31647892</id>
	<title>Re:What about the rest of it ?</title>
	<author>Shawndeisi</author>
	<datestamp>1269796440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're likely not using top of rack switches, since you can pack a nutty amount of bandwidth into relatively few links with 10GB switches a la Cisco 3120s.  I would be unsurprised if they had a Nexus 7000 in the middle of it all.<br>
<br>
The article does mention that they're using HP Blade servers, not Dells as another commenter posted.  In the video they showed a BL490c g6 blade, which is a dual socket Nehalem blade at 16 per chassis.  For cooling they were using watercooled APC pods.  The power isn't really the hard part, there is a version of the HP c7000 chassis that has two three-phase plugs straight into the chassis if you don't feel like running C19/C20 PDUs on the side of the racks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're likely not using top of rack switches , since you can pack a nutty amount of bandwidth into relatively few links with 10GB switches a la Cisco 3120s .
I would be unsurprised if they had a Nexus 7000 in the middle of it all .
The article does mention that they 're using HP Blade servers , not Dells as another commenter posted .
In the video they showed a BL490c g6 blade , which is a dual socket Nehalem blade at 16 per chassis .
For cooling they were using watercooled APC pods .
The power is n't really the hard part , there is a version of the HP c7000 chassis that has two three-phase plugs straight into the chassis if you do n't feel like running C19/C20 PDUs on the side of the racks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're likely not using top of rack switches, since you can pack a nutty amount of bandwidth into relatively few links with 10GB switches a la Cisco 3120s.
I would be unsurprised if they had a Nexus 7000 in the middle of it all.
The article does mention that they're using HP Blade servers, not Dells as another commenter posted.
In the video they showed a BL490c g6 blade, which is a dual socket Nehalem blade at 16 per chassis.
For cooling they were using watercooled APC pods.
The power isn't really the hard part, there is a version of the HP c7000 chassis that has two three-phase plugs straight into the chassis if you don't feel like running C19/C20 PDUs on the side of the racks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645898</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645898</id>
	<title>What about the rest of it ?</title>
	<author>slincolne</author>
	<datestamp>1269767160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Physical space is the least interesting point of this article.  Other things would be:<p>
What racks are they using (at least 42RU in height) ?</p><p>
How do they get power into these (4 chassis, each with 6 x 15A power inlets) ?</p><p>
Are they using rack top switches, or is there more equipment?</p><p>
Are they using liquid cooled doors - if so whose ?</p><p>
I once tried to get answers from HP on how to power their equipment at this density - they diddn't have a clue.  It's worth remembering that each of these chassis has six power supplies, each rated at up to 2.2KW.  Even allowing for a 2N configuration, that's a massive amount of power, and a lot of cables.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Physical space is the least interesting point of this article .
Other things would be : What racks are they using ( at least 42RU in height ) ?
How do they get power into these ( 4 chassis , each with 6 x 15A power inlets ) ?
Are they using rack top switches , or is there more equipment ?
Are they using liquid cooled doors - if so whose ?
I once tried to get answers from HP on how to power their equipment at this density - they didd n't have a clue .
It 's worth remembering that each of these chassis has six power supplies , each rated at up to 2.2KW .
Even allowing for a 2N configuration , that 's a massive amount of power , and a lot of cables .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Physical space is the least interesting point of this article.
Other things would be:
What racks are they using (at least 42RU in height) ?
How do they get power into these (4 chassis, each with 6 x 15A power inlets) ?
Are they using rack top switches, or is there more equipment?
Are they using liquid cooled doors - if so whose ?
I once tried to get answers from HP on how to power their equipment at this density - they diddn't have a clue.
It's worth remembering that each of these chassis has six power supplies, each rated at up to 2.2KW.
Even allowing for a 2N configuration, that's a massive amount of power, and a lot of cables.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646464</id>
	<title>And</title>
	<author>sonicmerlin</author>
	<datestamp>1269780120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yay for Moore's Law.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yay for Moore 's Law .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yay for Moore's Law.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31652216</id>
	<title>Re:What about the rest of it ?</title>
	<author>Jaime2</author>
	<datestamp>1269786240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HP blade chassis are easy to power.  They are designed to run three power supplies to the left and three to the right.  Just run two PDUs on each side of the rack (30 to 50 amps each, depending on what servers you run).  Twenty four power cords will supply about 100 devices (64 servers, 32 switches, and 8 management units).  The system is designed so you will never need all six power supplies running at full tilt as that isn't fault tolerant.  You can also get away with a few as four network cables for the entire rack, two 10 gig ethernet for data plus two for out-of-band management.<br>
<br>
However, I wouldn't stand behind the rack without lip balm on.  It will feel like a windy day in the desert.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HP blade chassis are easy to power .
They are designed to run three power supplies to the left and three to the right .
Just run two PDUs on each side of the rack ( 30 to 50 amps each , depending on what servers you run ) .
Twenty four power cords will supply about 100 devices ( 64 servers , 32 switches , and 8 management units ) .
The system is designed so you will never need all six power supplies running at full tilt as that is n't fault tolerant .
You can also get away with a few as four network cables for the entire rack , two 10 gig ethernet for data plus two for out-of-band management .
However , I would n't stand behind the rack without lip balm on .
It will feel like a windy day in the desert .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HP blade chassis are easy to power.
They are designed to run three power supplies to the left and three to the right.
Just run two PDUs on each side of the rack (30 to 50 amps each, depending on what servers you run).
Twenty four power cords will supply about 100 devices (64 servers, 32 switches, and 8 management units).
The system is designed so you will never need all six power supplies running at full tilt as that isn't fault tolerant.
You can also get away with a few as four network cables for the entire rack, two 10 gig ethernet for data plus two for out-of-band management.
However, I wouldn't stand behind the rack without lip balm on.
It will feel like a windy day in the desert.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645898</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31651358</id>
	<title>Wot?</title>
	<author>Ken\_g6</author>
	<datestamp>1269778200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No GPUs?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No GPUs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No GPUs?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645708</id>
	<title>The unnamed business is:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269806760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Boronia Capital</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Boronia Capital</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Boronia Capital</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645770</id>
	<title>Priceless</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1269807960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cost of real estate in prime metropolitan area - $15 million<br>Cost of state of the art server rocks - $30 million<br>Cost of flying in a cooler the size of a small bus on a 747 - $2 million<br>Cost of seeing data center employee's face when they realise they're on call 24/7 for no extra cash - Priceless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cost of real estate in prime metropolitan area - $ 15 millionCost of state of the art server rocks - $ 30 millionCost of flying in a cooler the size of a small bus on a 747 - $ 2 millionCost of seeing data center employee 's face when they realise they 're on call 24/7 for no extra cash - Priceless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cost of real estate in prime metropolitan area - $15 millionCost of state of the art server rocks - $30 millionCost of flying in a cooler the size of a small bus on a 747 - $2 millionCost of seeing data center employee's face when they realise they're on call 24/7 for no extra cash - Priceless.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645938</id>
	<title>Re:About relocating supercomputing power to Austra</title>
	<author>Nkwe</author>
	<datestamp>1269767760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You all do realize that electrons spin <i>backwards</i> there, right?</p></div><p>Only when you are not watching.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You all do realize that electrons spin backwards there , right ? Only when you are not watching .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You all do realize that electrons spin backwards there, right?Only when you are not watching.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31649150</id>
	<title>A renderfarm is NOT a supercomputer!</title>
	<author>halfdan the black</author>
	<datestamp>1269805140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A renderfarm is really nothing more then a bunch of slave processors, each one rendering a separate frame. There is basically NO internode communication. A supercomputer on the other hand has extensive internode communication, which is why the switching fabric is so fundamentally important.

So do not confuse a farm (web farm, or render farm) with a supercomputer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A renderfarm is really nothing more then a bunch of slave processors , each one rendering a separate frame .
There is basically NO internode communication .
A supercomputer on the other hand has extensive internode communication , which is why the switching fabric is so fundamentally important .
So do not confuse a farm ( web farm , or render farm ) with a supercomputer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A renderfarm is really nothing more then a bunch of slave processors, each one rendering a separate frame.
There is basically NO internode communication.
A supercomputer on the other hand has extensive internode communication, which is why the switching fabric is so fundamentally important.
So do not confuse a farm (web farm, or render farm) with a supercomputer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31647314</id>
	<title>Re:About relocating supercomputing power to Austra</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269791700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's ok, they just flip the servers upside-down.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's ok , they just flip the servers upside-down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's ok, they just flip the servers upside-down.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31654286</id>
	<title>Re:Tried to check out the E3 Networks site</title>
	<author>Macka</author>
	<datestamp>1269895860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You don't wait for it to finish, there is no finish.  You just click on the background and it loads the rest of the site.</p><p>Flash isn't just used for the landing page: it's the <b>whole</b> site.  Every scrap of it is flash.  I feel sick!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't wait for it to finish , there is no finish .
You just click on the background and it loads the rest of the site.Flash is n't just used for the landing page : it 's the whole site .
Every scrap of it is flash .
I feel sick !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't wait for it to finish, there is no finish.
You just click on the background and it loads the rest of the site.Flash isn't just used for the landing page: it's the whole site.
Every scrap of it is flash.
I feel sick!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645868</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646678</id>
	<title>Re:About relocating supercomputing power to Austra</title>
	<author>CODiNE</author>
	<datestamp>1269784380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dude you could at least CITE it.  Hello!<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis\_effect" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis\_effect</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude you could at least CITE it .
Hello ! http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis \ _effect [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude you could at least CITE it.
Hello!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis\_effect [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645822</id>
	<title>Amazingly dependent on algorithms...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269809100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's amazing how such computing depends on not only the complexity of the algorithms involved but also in their implementation.</p><p>Eat that all PHP + SQL plumbers "programmers" who have never heard terms like, say, minimal perfect hash or Bloom filter<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's amazing how such computing depends on not only the complexity of the algorithms involved but also in their implementation.Eat that all PHP + SQL plumbers " programmers " who have never heard terms like , say , minimal perfect hash or Bloom filter ; )  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's amazing how such computing depends on not only the complexity of the algorithms involved but also in their implementation.Eat that all PHP + SQL plumbers "programmers" who have never heard terms like, say, minimal perfect hash or Bloom filter ;)
 </sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645868</id>
	<title>Tried to check out the E3 Networks site</title>
	<author>XCondE</author>
	<datestamp>1269809940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But it's in Flash.  And I didn't have the patience to wait for the clouds and animation to finish.</p><p>

<a href="http://www.e3networks.com.au/" title="e3networks.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.e3networks.com.au/</a> [e3networks.com.au]

</p><p>Who is this supposed to be targeting? You have to be a class A moron to build a data centre website using flash on the landing page.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But it 's in Flash .
And I did n't have the patience to wait for the clouds and animation to finish .
http : //www.e3networks.com.au/ [ e3networks.com.au ] Who is this supposed to be targeting ?
You have to be a class A moron to build a data centre website using flash on the landing page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But it's in Flash.
And I didn't have the patience to wait for the clouds and animation to finish.
http://www.e3networks.com.au/ [e3networks.com.au]

Who is this supposed to be targeting?
You have to be a class A moron to build a data centre website using flash on the landing page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31692760</id>
	<title>Opportunity...</title>
	<author>centre21</author>
	<datestamp>1270027380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now let's see if they could put that technology to good use by creating a good film.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now let 's see if they could put that technology to good use by creating a good film .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now let's see if they could put that technology to good use by creating a good film.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645900</id>
	<title>Head line</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269767160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read this as "simmering down", and pictured a mac mini in a wok.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read this as " simmering down " , and pictured a mac mini in a wok .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read this as "simmering down", and pictured a mac mini in a wok.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31653182</id>
	<title>BREAKING NEWS!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269796200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Area man uses newer parts with increased power to get better performance from gear used 5 years ago. Film at 11.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Area man uses newer parts with increased power to get better performance from gear used 5 years ago .
Film at 11 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Area man uses newer parts with increased power to get better performance from gear used 5 years ago.
Film at 11.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645658</id>
	<title>Does it blend?</title>
	<author>TheMiddleRoad</author>
	<datestamp>1269719520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In slow motion, please.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In slow motion , please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In slow motion, please.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646052</id>
	<title>Re:About relocating supercomputing power to Austra</title>
	<author>Lorens</author>
	<datestamp>1269770220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You all do realize that electrons spin <i>backwards</i> there, right?</p></div><p>Moderation +2, 100\% Informative</p><p>Only on Slashdot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You all do realize that electrons spin backwards there , right ? Moderation + 2 , 100 \ % InformativeOnly on Slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You all do realize that electrons spin backwards there, right?Moderation +2, 100\% InformativeOnly on Slashdot.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31654412</id>
	<title>Potts Point? No wonder movie tickets are expensive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269854700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...if the render farm is located in Potts Point I 'spose they'll need to pass on the real estate site costs (either buy or rent) onto someone, and that's the poor old moviegoer.<br>
For those who don't know Sydney, Potts Point is one of the most upmarket suburbs in Australia.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...sure isn't your average  'industrial estate location' noooo sireeee!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...if the render farm is located in Potts Point I 'spose they 'll need to pass on the real estate site costs ( either buy or rent ) onto someone , and that 's the poor old moviegoer .
For those who do n't know Sydney , Potts Point is one of the most upmarket suburbs in Australia .
...sure is n't your average 'industrial estate location ' noooo sireeee !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...if the render farm is located in Potts Point I 'spose they'll need to pass on the real estate site costs (either buy or rent) onto someone, and that's the poor old moviegoer.
For those who don't know Sydney, Potts Point is one of the most upmarket suburbs in Australia.
...sure isn't your average  'industrial estate location' noooo sireeee!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646676</id>
	<title>Re:Tried to check out the E3 Networks site</title>
	<author>MrMr</author>
	<datestamp>1269784320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>class B morons, obviously.</htmltext>
<tokenext>class B morons , obviously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>class B morons, obviously.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646432</id>
	<title>Seems fairly run-of-the-mill</title>
	<author>Junta</author>
	<datestamp>1269779580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>News story is that computers are faster and have more memory than they were 3 years ago, so they need fewer of them.  They bought APC enclosed systems to avoid having a hot isle due to open air cooling (of course, that means they paid a non-trivial amount for that).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>News story is that computers are faster and have more memory than they were 3 years ago , so they need fewer of them .
They bought APC enclosed systems to avoid having a hot isle due to open air cooling ( of course , that means they paid a non-trivial amount for that ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>News story is that computers are faster and have more memory than they were 3 years ago, so they need fewer of them.
They bought APC enclosed systems to avoid having a hot isle due to open air cooling (of course, that means they paid a non-trivial amount for that).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646250</id>
	<title>Re:Priceless</title>
	<author>cheater512</author>
	<datestamp>1269775560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A380 actually.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A380 actually .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A380 actually.
:P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645940</id>
	<title>Slimming down?</title>
	<author>CrashandDie</author>
	<datestamp>1269767820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Somehow I don't believe the banks would be happy if we asked them to participate in "The Biggest Loser"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Somehow I do n't believe the banks would be happy if we asked them to participate in " The Biggest Loser "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Somehow I don't believe the banks would be happy if we asked them to participate in "The Biggest Loser"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645808</id>
	<title>I work in a national lab computer center</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269808680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and I'm getting a kick out of these "claims" of supercomputer "prowess"...</htmltext>
<tokenext>and I 'm getting a kick out of these " claims " of supercomputer " prowess " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and I'm getting a kick out of these "claims" of supercomputer "prowess"...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31648274</id>
	<title>Re:What about the rest of it ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269799260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi there,</p><p>We are using APC 42U racks.<br>We use APC PDUs to deliver the power in the chassis racks.<br>No top of rack switches - unnecessary. We use a single 10GbE from each C7000 back onto a Brocade core.<br>No liquid cooled doors. Unnecessary.<br>We are seeing around 6.2KW out of each C7000 (32 nodes per 10U). Around 100A per rack.<br>Our suite requires prox card access so it is secure.</p><p>Hope that helps<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi there,We are using APC 42U racks.We use APC PDUs to deliver the power in the chassis racks.No top of rack switches - unnecessary .
We use a single 10GbE from each C7000 back onto a Brocade core.No liquid cooled doors .
Unnecessary.We are seeing around 6.2KW out of each C7000 ( 32 nodes per 10U ) .
Around 100A per rack.Our suite requires prox card access so it is secure.Hope that helps : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi there,We are using APC 42U racks.We use APC PDUs to deliver the power in the chassis racks.No top of rack switches - unnecessary.
We use a single 10GbE from each C7000 back onto a Brocade core.No liquid cooled doors.
Unnecessary.We are seeing around 6.2KW out of each C7000 (32 nodes per 10U).
Around 100A per rack.Our suite requires prox card access so it is secure.Hope that helps :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31650428</id>
	<title>So?</title>
	<author>BitZtream</author>
	<datestamp>1269771660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they waited another 2 years they could pack the same processing power into a desktop PC.</p><p>Why are we posting stories about companies who are just upgrading old PCs they use for their rendering farm.</p><p>Whats next?  Google server farm updates?  Going to start posting to us when redhat upgrades its FTP servers to faster hardware just because its cheaper than replacing the old?</p><p>I mean seriously, all they did was upgrade, and<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it wasn't even a big upgrade, I've made bigger purchases than that over the phone to dell without  even any written authorization.</p><p>Its a silly rendering farm.  Not a super computer.  Its not even an impressive rendering farm.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they waited another 2 years they could pack the same processing power into a desktop PC.Why are we posting stories about companies who are just upgrading old PCs they use for their rendering farm.Whats next ?
Google server farm updates ?
Going to start posting to us when redhat upgrades its FTP servers to faster hardware just because its cheaper than replacing the old ? I mean seriously , all they did was upgrade , and ... it was n't even a big upgrade , I 've made bigger purchases than that over the phone to dell without even any written authorization.Its a silly rendering farm .
Not a super computer .
Its not even an impressive rendering farm .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they waited another 2 years they could pack the same processing power into a desktop PC.Why are we posting stories about companies who are just upgrading old PCs they use for their rendering farm.Whats next?
Google server farm updates?
Going to start posting to us when redhat upgrades its FTP servers to faster hardware just because its cheaper than replacing the old?I mean seriously, all they did was upgrade, and ... it wasn't even a big upgrade, I've made bigger purchases than that over the phone to dell without  even any written authorization.Its a silly rendering farm.
Not a super computer.
Its not even an impressive rendering farm.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31647410</id>
	<title>Strange...</title>
	<author>Disoculated</author>
	<datestamp>1269792600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm really thinking that this article is leaving some very important details out... It's really strange that a money-making data center would have physical space as it's primary limiting factor.  Things like power, cooling, network, etc are usually far more important than square feet of tile, especially when anyone with an experience in data centers isn't going to put it in a high-value real estate market, it's going to be out in some industrial/commercial zone in the burbs where land/power/water are cheaper.  It's not like the developers sending programs/renders to the cluster need to be anywhere near it physically.</p><p>I'm guessing these folks are addressing some sort of unique problem that they have to solve this way, and they don't bother to explain that to us in the article.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm really thinking that this article is leaving some very important details out... It 's really strange that a money-making data center would have physical space as it 's primary limiting factor .
Things like power , cooling , network , etc are usually far more important than square feet of tile , especially when anyone with an experience in data centers is n't going to put it in a high-value real estate market , it 's going to be out in some industrial/commercial zone in the burbs where land/power/water are cheaper .
It 's not like the developers sending programs/renders to the cluster need to be anywhere near it physically.I 'm guessing these folks are addressing some sort of unique problem that they have to solve this way , and they do n't bother to explain that to us in the article .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm really thinking that this article is leaving some very important details out... It's really strange that a money-making data center would have physical space as it's primary limiting factor.
Things like power, cooling, network, etc are usually far more important than square feet of tile, especially when anyone with an experience in data centers isn't going to put it in a high-value real estate market, it's going to be out in some industrial/commercial zone in the burbs where land/power/water are cheaper.
It's not like the developers sending programs/renders to the cluster need to be anywhere near it physically.I'm guessing these folks are addressing some sort of unique problem that they have to solve this way, and they don't bother to explain that to us in the article.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31645890</id>
	<title>About relocating supercomputing power to Australia</title>
	<author>hallux.sinister</author>
	<datestamp>1269767100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>You all do realize that electrons spin <i>backwards</i> there, right?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You all do realize that electrons spin backwards there , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You all do realize that electrons spin backwards there, right?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31649398</id>
	<title>Re:Priceless</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1269806880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Cost of seeing data center employee's face when they realise they're on call 24/7 for no extra cash - Priceless.</p></div><p>Well, if he agreed to give away work for free, because he thinks he&rsquo;s worth that little, then that&rsquo;s his own damn fault.<br>People who don&rsquo;t learn to say no, will obviously be walked all over. Your boss is only a client of yours. You can always get another client. Either he offers a good deal, or he can GTFO.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cost of seeing data center employee 's face when they realise they 're on call 24/7 for no extra cash - Priceless.Well , if he agreed to give away work for free , because he thinks he    s worth that little , then that    s his own damn fault.People who don    t learn to say no , will obviously be walked all over .
Your boss is only a client of yours .
You can always get another client .
Either he offers a good deal , or he can GTFO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cost of seeing data center employee's face when they realise they're on call 24/7 for no extra cash - Priceless.Well, if he agreed to give away work for free, because he thinks he’s worth that little, then that’s his own damn fault.People who don’t learn to say no, will obviously be walked all over.
Your boss is only a client of yours.
You can always get another client.
Either he offers a good deal, or he can GTFO.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_28_0019228.31646016</id>
	<title>Re:Tried to check out the E3 Networks site</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269769380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slightly off-topic, but...</p><p>1. The funny thing about their site design is that about 90\% of it could have easily been done with mouseovers and no flash.</p><p>2. None of the text can be highlighted. Lets say that they were the solution for my business, and I just needed to e-mail someone in management a snippet about their site. Too bad. No copy and paste.</p><p>It feels like it's 2001 or 2002 again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slightly off-topic , but...1 .
The funny thing about their site design is that about 90 \ % of it could have easily been done with mouseovers and no flash.2 .
None of the text can be highlighted .
Lets say that they were the solution for my business , and I just needed to e-mail someone in management a snippet about their site .
Too bad .
No copy and paste.It feels like it 's 2001 or 2002 again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slightly off-topic, but...1.
The funny thing about their site design is that about 90\% of it could have easily been done with mouseovers and no flash.2.
None of the text can be highlighted.
Lets say that they were the solution for my business, and I just needed to e-mail someone in management a snippet about their site.
Too bad.
No copy and paste.It feels like it's 2001 or 2002 again.</sentencetext>
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