<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_27_0027245</id>
	<title>SCO v. Novell Goes To the Jury</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1269693000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:kfitzner@excelcia.org" rel="nofollow">Excelcia</a> writes <i>"Closing arguments in the six and a bit year old slander of title case between SCO and Novell occurred today and the case is <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100326184700459">finally in the hands of the jury</a>.  It's been an interesting case, with SCO alternately claiming that the copyrights to UNIX <em>did</em> get transferred to them, and that the copyrights <em>should have been</em> transferred to them. 'Judge Ted Stewart said, after the jury left to begin to deliberate, that in all his years on the bench, he's never seen such fine lawyering as in this case.' We're not going to find out the results until at least Tuesday, however, as one juror is taking a long weekend.  Great lawyering notwithstanding, we can all hope next week that the Energizer bunny of all spurious lawsuits will finally go away."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Excelcia writes " Closing arguments in the six and a bit year old slander of title case between SCO and Novell occurred today and the case is finally in the hands of the jury .
It 's been an interesting case , with SCO alternately claiming that the copyrights to UNIX did get transferred to them , and that the copyrights should have been transferred to them .
'Judge Ted Stewart said , after the jury left to begin to deliberate , that in all his years on the bench , he 's never seen such fine lawyering as in this case .
' We 're not going to find out the results until at least Tuesday , however , as one juror is taking a long weekend .
Great lawyering notwithstanding , we can all hope next week that the Energizer bunny of all spurious lawsuits will finally go away .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Excelcia writes "Closing arguments in the six and a bit year old slander of title case between SCO and Novell occurred today and the case is finally in the hands of the jury.
It's been an interesting case, with SCO alternately claiming that the copyrights to UNIX did get transferred to them, and that the copyrights should have been transferred to them.
'Judge Ted Stewart said, after the jury left to begin to deliberate, that in all his years on the bench, he's never seen such fine lawyering as in this case.
' We're not going to find out the results until at least Tuesday, however, as one juror is taking a long weekend.
Great lawyering notwithstanding, we can all hope next week that the Energizer bunny of all spurious lawsuits will finally go away.
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</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31635212</id>
	<title>I'd hate to be on that jury...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269613320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can you imagine having to sit through SIX YEARS of a case? The last time I was summoned for jury duty it took three days until I was dismissed from selection and I was already pissed at everyone involved for wasting my time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you imagine having to sit through SIX YEARS of a case ?
The last time I was summoned for jury duty it took three days until I was dismissed from selection and I was already pissed at everyone involved for wasting my time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you imagine having to sit through SIX YEARS of a case?
The last time I was summoned for jury duty it took three days until I was dismissed from selection and I was already pissed at everyone involved for wasting my time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31636172</id>
	<title>Re:Is UNIX even worth suing over these days?</title>
	<author>cpghost</author>
	<datestamp>1269619560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Linux and the BSDs have pretty much made UNIX obsolete.</p></div></blockquote><p>

I don't know about Linux, but BSD definitely contained Unix code from USL, and vice-versa. They <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USL\_v.\_BSDi" title="wikipedia.org">settled out of court</a> [wikipedia.org]. Should ever SCO decided to go after BSD, it would <a href="http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2003-November/000740.html" title="freebsd.org">open a big can of worms</a> [freebsd.org]. More details can be found in <a href="http://www.tuhs.org/wiki/The\_Unix\_Heritage\_Society" title="tuhs.org">The Unix Heritage Society</a> [tuhs.org] and <a href="http://www.bitsavers.org/" title="bitsavers.org">Bitsavers</a> [bitsavers.org] Archives.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux and the BSDs have pretty much made UNIX obsolete .
I do n't know about Linux , but BSD definitely contained Unix code from USL , and vice-versa .
They settled out of court [ wikipedia.org ] .
Should ever SCO decided to go after BSD , it would open a big can of worms [ freebsd.org ] .
More details can be found in The Unix Heritage Society [ tuhs.org ] and Bitsavers [ bitsavers.org ] Archives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux and the BSDs have pretty much made UNIX obsolete.
I don't know about Linux, but BSD definitely contained Unix code from USL, and vice-versa.
They settled out of court [wikipedia.org].
Should ever SCO decided to go after BSD, it would open a big can of worms [freebsd.org].
More details can be found in The Unix Heritage Society [tuhs.org] and Bitsavers [bitsavers.org] Archives.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31635454</id>
	<title>What if SCO wins?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269614880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will we see copyright infringements suddenly popping up  on program names like cd, mkdir, netstat, or ping regardless of the differences in source code? Will sysv now be a copy-written software design that could be held to some stupid software patent? All this just because a telco wrote some names in code.<br>Can we trust Novell, with their financially romantic relationship with Microsoft to remain active in the Open Source community or will they become the replacement for the litigious SCO which was backed into this action with money from Redmond in the first place?</p><p>Stay tuned Penguins the wrath of Mount Rainier shall not be assuaged until the Ring formed in Redmond is thrown into the fires of mountain.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will we see copyright infringements suddenly popping up on program names like cd , mkdir , netstat , or ping regardless of the differences in source code ?
Will sysv now be a copy-written software design that could be held to some stupid software patent ?
All this just because a telco wrote some names in code.Can we trust Novell , with their financially romantic relationship with Microsoft to remain active in the Open Source community or will they become the replacement for the litigious SCO which was backed into this action with money from Redmond in the first place ? Stay tuned Penguins the wrath of Mount Rainier shall not be assuaged until the Ring formed in Redmond is thrown into the fires of mountain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will we see copyright infringements suddenly popping up  on program names like cd, mkdir, netstat, or ping regardless of the differences in source code?
Will sysv now be a copy-written software design that could be held to some stupid software patent?
All this just because a telco wrote some names in code.Can we trust Novell, with their financially romantic relationship with Microsoft to remain active in the Open Source community or will they become the replacement for the litigious SCO which was backed into this action with money from Redmond in the first place?Stay tuned Penguins the wrath of Mount Rainier shall not be assuaged until the Ring formed in Redmond is thrown into the fires of mountain.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634702</id>
	<title>About time</title>
	<author>kelarius</author>
	<datestamp>1269610380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And here I was thinking it had already gone away... Silly me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And here I was thinking it had already gone away... Silly me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here I was thinking it had already gone away... Silly me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31635282</id>
	<title>prediction, payday for lawyers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269613800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>incarceration for SCO<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>incarceration for SCO : p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>incarceration for SCO :p</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31638252</id>
	<title>Re:Is UNIX even worth suing over these days?</title>
	<author>Sulphur</author>
	<datestamp>1269690600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...vicious precisely because the stakes are so small.<br>Henry A. Kissinger</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...vicious precisely because the stakes are so small.Henry A. Kissinger</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...vicious precisely because the stakes are so small.Henry A. Kissinger</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634822</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31635772</id>
	<title>You poor deluded fools.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269616620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is just the beginning!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is just the beginning !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is just the beginning!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634822</id>
	<title>Is UNIX even worth suing over these days?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269611160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux and the BSDs have pretty much made UNIX obsolete.  Why spend so much money fighting over something so fucking worthless and anachronistic?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux and the BSDs have pretty much made UNIX obsolete .
Why spend so much money fighting over something so fucking worthless and anachronistic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux and the BSDs have pretty much made UNIX obsolete.
Why spend so much money fighting over something so fucking worthless and anachronistic?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637670</id>
	<title>Who should win?</title>
	<author>Helldesk Hound</author>
	<datestamp>1269681060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that the facts of the case clearly support Novell.</p><p>I think that Novell should win for multiple reasons:</p><p>1/ that the copyrights did not transfer to the S.C.O.</p><p>2/ that NewSCO tried to get Novell to assign the copyrights, that Novell didn't want to do so and therefore NewSCO took Novell to court in an attempt to take the copyrights from Novell.</p><p>3/ that NewSCO has been such a slimy corporation and has been so malicious to Novell that NewSCO doesn't deserve to get the copyrights.</p><p>HOWEVER, I think that given the jury may consist of persons who may be lacking in education, and may potentially be scammers themselves (you can't tell what the predisposition of any jury person is due to not actually knowing who they are and what their background is) there is at least a chance that NewSCO's lawyers may have been able to pull the wool down far enough so that at least one person on the Jury might just have believed NewSCO's pathetic bleating.</p><p>I agree - such a stupid case as this could only ever have been strung out this long in the USA. Every country that actually has a savvy and just legal system would have thrown out this case as having no chance of success and therefore not worth following through.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that the facts of the case clearly support Novell.I think that Novell should win for multiple reasons : 1/ that the copyrights did not transfer to the S.C.O.2/ that NewSCO tried to get Novell to assign the copyrights , that Novell did n't want to do so and therefore NewSCO took Novell to court in an attempt to take the copyrights from Novell.3/ that NewSCO has been such a slimy corporation and has been so malicious to Novell that NewSCO does n't deserve to get the copyrights.HOWEVER , I think that given the jury may consist of persons who may be lacking in education , and may potentially be scammers themselves ( you ca n't tell what the predisposition of any jury person is due to not actually knowing who they are and what their background is ) there is at least a chance that NewSCO 's lawyers may have been able to pull the wool down far enough so that at least one person on the Jury might just have believed NewSCO 's pathetic bleating.I agree - such a stupid case as this could only ever have been strung out this long in the USA .
Every country that actually has a savvy and just legal system would have thrown out this case as having no chance of success and therefore not worth following through .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that the facts of the case clearly support Novell.I think that Novell should win for multiple reasons:1/ that the copyrights did not transfer to the S.C.O.2/ that NewSCO tried to get Novell to assign the copyrights, that Novell didn't want to do so and therefore NewSCO took Novell to court in an attempt to take the copyrights from Novell.3/ that NewSCO has been such a slimy corporation and has been so malicious to Novell that NewSCO doesn't deserve to get the copyrights.HOWEVER, I think that given the jury may consist of persons who may be lacking in education, and may potentially be scammers themselves (you can't tell what the predisposition of any jury person is due to not actually knowing who they are and what their background is) there is at least a chance that NewSCO's lawyers may have been able to pull the wool down far enough so that at least one person on the Jury might just have believed NewSCO's pathetic bleating.I agree - such a stupid case as this could only ever have been strung out this long in the USA.
Every country that actually has a savvy and just legal system would have thrown out this case as having no chance of success and therefore not worth following through.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31638428</id>
	<title>Since this lawsuit started</title>
	<author>Lord Byron II</author>
	<datestamp>1269693240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since this lawsuit started...<br>I got an undergraduate degree in math.<br>I got a master's degree in physics.<br>I got a doctoral degree in physics.<br>I got a dog and a cat.<br>I meet a wonderful woman.<br>I married her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since this lawsuit started...I got an undergraduate degree in math.I got a master 's degree in physics.I got a doctoral degree in physics.I got a dog and a cat.I meet a wonderful woman.I married her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since this lawsuit started...I got an undergraduate degree in math.I got a master's degree in physics.I got a doctoral degree in physics.I got a dog and a cat.I meet a wonderful woman.I married her.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31635196</id>
	<title>Non-tech jury</title>
	<author>xzvf</author>
	<datestamp>1269613140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's highly unlikely they let anyone on the jury that has heard of Linux, must less understand what it stands for.  Heck, they definitely never heard of SCO and unlikely heard of Novell.  Maybe it'll come down to which side had the most people that look like native people of Utah (Mormons, not indigenous natives).</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's highly unlikely they let anyone on the jury that has heard of Linux , must less understand what it stands for .
Heck , they definitely never heard of SCO and unlikely heard of Novell .
Maybe it 'll come down to which side had the most people that look like native people of Utah ( Mormons , not indigenous natives ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's highly unlikely they let anyone on the jury that has heard of Linux, must less understand what it stands for.
Heck, they definitely never heard of SCO and unlikely heard of Novell.
Maybe it'll come down to which side had the most people that look like native people of Utah (Mormons, not indigenous natives).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31638518</id>
	<title>Re:Is UNIX even worth suing over these days?</title>
	<author>yossarianuk</author>
	<datestamp>1269694440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>SCO won't go after BSD because Microsoft didn't give them funding to do so (unlike Linux)<br> <br>
MS sees Linux as more of a threat to their core business, no matter what advancements have been made in BSD desktop usage it is perceived to be 'behind' Linux in terms of software/hardware support.<br> <br>
Who know' s maybe they are waiting to go after Apple one day (who use a version of BSD)</htmltext>
<tokenext>SCO wo n't go after BSD because Microsoft did n't give them funding to do so ( unlike Linux ) MS sees Linux as more of a threat to their core business , no matter what advancements have been made in BSD desktop usage it is perceived to be 'behind ' Linux in terms of software/hardware support .
Who know ' s maybe they are waiting to go after Apple one day ( who use a version of BSD )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SCO won't go after BSD because Microsoft didn't give them funding to do so (unlike Linux) 
MS sees Linux as more of a threat to their core business, no matter what advancements have been made in BSD desktop usage it is perceived to be 'behind' Linux in terms of software/hardware support.
Who know' s maybe they are waiting to go after Apple one day (who use a version of BSD)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31636042</id>
	<title>Re:Still out there litigating?</title>
	<author>Zak3056</author>
	<datestamp>1269618600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Die! Die! Die! Why won't you just fuckin die?!?!</p></div></blockquote><p>Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. McBride, and ideas are bulletproof.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Die !
Die ! Die !
Why wo n't you just fuckin die ? ! ?
! Beneath this mask there is more than flesh .
Beneath this mask there is an idea , Mr. McBride , and ideas are bulletproof .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Die!
Die! Die!
Why won't you just fuckin die?!?
!Beneath this mask there is more than flesh.
Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. McBride, and ideas are bulletproof.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31636542</id>
	<title>SCO?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269622680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does anyone even Run SCO UNIX in production anymore.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone even Run SCO UNIX in production anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone even Run SCO UNIX in production anymore.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634692</id>
	<title>Finally</title>
	<author>AmonTheMetalhead</author>
	<datestamp>1269610320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's about bloody time</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's about bloody time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's about bloody time</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637152</id>
	<title>Re:Huzzah to groklaw, and 'good grief, jurors'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269628200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Huzzah to groklaw, and 'good grief, jurors.'</p><p>I participated last year on a jury trial that lasted 3wks. I really cannot imagine trying to stay attentive and take good juror notes, for six years!</p></div><p>The jury portion of the trial started on March 8. They spent about as long in trial as you did.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Huzzah to groklaw , and 'good grief , jurors .
'I participated last year on a jury trial that lasted 3wks .
I really can not imagine trying to stay attentive and take good juror notes , for six years ! The jury portion of the trial started on March 8 .
They spent about as long in trial as you did .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huzzah to groklaw, and 'good grief, jurors.
'I participated last year on a jury trial that lasted 3wks.
I really cannot imagine trying to stay attentive and take good juror notes, for six years!The jury portion of the trial started on March 8.
They spent about as long in trial as you did.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31642248</id>
	<title>Re:Since this lawsuit started</title>
	<author>BOFHelsinki</author>
	<datestamp>1269681420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's great! But in poem composition I'd say you still have something to learn from LB I...</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's great !
But in poem composition I 'd say you still have something to learn from LB I.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's great!
But in poem composition I'd say you still have something to learn from LB I...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31638428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31635288</id>
	<title>Kill. it. with. fire.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269613800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Die. Die. Die.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Die .
Die. Die .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Die.
Die. Die.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637204</id>
	<title>for the Lawyers</title>
	<author>drolli</author>
	<datestamp>1269629100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Such a case... and you can retire.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Such a case... and you can retire .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Such a case... and you can retire.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31636018</id>
	<title>Re:I'd hate to be on that jury...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269618480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're an idiot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're an idiot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're an idiot.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31680420</id>
	<title>Re:A six year case</title>
	<author>al0ha</author>
	<datestamp>1269955980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep - over.  The jury decided long ago.   Yay for Linux, well as long as Novell is never purchased by Larry anyway!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep - over .
The jury decided long ago .
Yay for Linux , well as long as Novell is never purchased by Larry anyway !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep - over.
The jury decided long ago.
Yay for Linux, well as long as Novell is never purchased by Larry anyway!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31636670</id>
	<title>SCO is likely to win :-(</title>
	<author>r00t</author>
	<datestamp>1269623880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The language of the courtroom is a mix of legal jargon and programmer jargon, glued together with the English of people who went to graduate school. To the jury it's a bunch of babble.</p><p>Once you ignore all that, you're left with a sob story. The little guy is hurt. Obviously, money is required. People don't sue unless somebody else did something bad, and the trial only requires a likelyhood for a win, so there you go. SCO wins.</p><p>There is a reason SCO demanded a jury.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The language of the courtroom is a mix of legal jargon and programmer jargon , glued together with the English of people who went to graduate school .
To the jury it 's a bunch of babble.Once you ignore all that , you 're left with a sob story .
The little guy is hurt .
Obviously , money is required .
People do n't sue unless somebody else did something bad , and the trial only requires a likelyhood for a win , so there you go .
SCO wins.There is a reason SCO demanded a jury .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The language of the courtroom is a mix of legal jargon and programmer jargon, glued together with the English of people who went to graduate school.
To the jury it's a bunch of babble.Once you ignore all that, you're left with a sob story.
The little guy is hurt.
Obviously, money is required.
People don't sue unless somebody else did something bad, and the trial only requires a likelyhood for a win, so there you go.
SCO wins.There is a reason SCO demanded a jury.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634862</id>
	<title>So which one has the Chicken?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269611460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, Futurama's 'simple country lawyer chicken'...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , Futurama 's 'simple country lawyer chicken'.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, Futurama's 'simple country lawyer chicken'...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31639138</id>
	<title>Re:SCO?</title>
	<author>Tteddo</author>
	<datestamp>1269701940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Northern Data in Maine runs it for all the towns in Maine that use them. My town ditched them last year finally.<br>Yeah, I couldn't believe it either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Northern Data in Maine runs it for all the towns in Maine that use them .
My town ditched them last year finally.Yeah , I could n't believe it either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Northern Data in Maine runs it for all the towns in Maine that use them.
My town ditched them last year finally.Yeah, I couldn't believe it either.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634788</id>
	<title>A six year case</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269610920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>super fine lawyering and the jury will return a verdict by Tuesday?  Hmmmm... me thinks the case was already decided long ago.  For whom? We shall see.</htmltext>
<tokenext>super fine lawyering and the jury will return a verdict by Tuesday ?
Hmmmm... me thinks the case was already decided long ago .
For whom ?
We shall see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>super fine lawyering and the jury will return a verdict by Tuesday?
Hmmmm... me thinks the case was already decided long ago.
For whom?
We shall see.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31636708</id>
	<title>Wonderful cash cow</title>
	<author>shadowbearer</author>
	<datestamp>1269624120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; For the lawyers in this case.</p><p>
&nbsp; The IP case that just would not die...</p><p>
&nbsp; I'll bet that they find a way to keep extending it even longer.</p><p>SB</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>  For the lawyers in this case .
  The IP case that just would not die.. .   I 'll bet that they find a way to keep extending it even longer.SB</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
  For the lawyers in this case.
  The IP case that just would not die...
  I'll bet that they find a way to keep extending it even longer.SB</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637198</id>
	<title>follow the money</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269628980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if you want to know how long this will go on, follow the money trail that feeds the lawyers.  As long as they have a chance to make a buck, it will continue indefinitely.  When the $ dry up, it will end.  End of story.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if you want to know how long this will go on , follow the money trail that feeds the lawyers .
As long as they have a chance to make a buck , it will continue indefinitely .
When the $ dry up , it will end .
End of story .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you want to know how long this will go on, follow the money trail that feeds the lawyers.
As long as they have a chance to make a buck, it will continue indefinitely.
When the $ dry up, it will end.
End of story.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634778</id>
	<title>Still out there litigating?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269610860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Die! Die! Die! Why won't you just fuckin die?!?!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Die !
Die ! Die !
Why wo n't you just fuckin die ? ! ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Die!
Die! Die!
Why won't you just fuckin die?!?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637580</id>
	<title>Re:SCO?</title>
	<author>innocent\_white\_lamb</author>
	<datestamp>1269722880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Home Hardware, a chain of hardware stores in Canada, has a POS and inventory management system called Prism that runs on SCO UNIX.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Home Hardware , a chain of hardware stores in Canada , has a POS and inventory management system called Prism that runs on SCO UNIX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Home Hardware, a chain of hardware stores in Canada, has a POS and inventory management system called Prism that runs on SCO UNIX.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31634790</id>
	<title>Prediction</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269610920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prediction: SCO will suffer a crushing defeat, and then the appeal machinery will start humming again. The final words in this judicial failure will not be said for decades yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prediction : SCO will suffer a crushing defeat , and then the appeal machinery will start humming again .
The final words in this judicial failure will not be said for decades yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prediction: SCO will suffer a crushing defeat, and then the appeal machinery will start humming again.
The final words in this judicial failure will not be said for decades yet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637098</id>
	<title>The jury was there for three weeks</title>
	<author>einhverfr</author>
	<datestamp>1269627540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Basically the way this case went was:</p><p>1)  Both sides file a bunch of pre-trial motions....<br>2)  SCO loses.  Case gets thrown out without prejudice<br>3)  SCO refiles.<br>4)  Wash, rinse, repeat<br>5)  SCO loses key pre-trial motions, files for bankrupcy.<br>6)  SCO puts this case on hold via bankrupcy court.<br>7)  Eventually, six years later, it actually gets before a jury.</p><p>Six years was the period of legal struggle.  Depending on how you count this case (whether re-filing counts as a new case, for example), this case is not even six years old....  However the whole struggle.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically the way this case went was : 1 ) Both sides file a bunch of pre-trial motions....2 ) SCO loses .
Case gets thrown out without prejudice3 ) SCO refiles.4 ) Wash , rinse , repeat5 ) SCO loses key pre-trial motions , files for bankrupcy.6 ) SCO puts this case on hold via bankrupcy court.7 ) Eventually , six years later , it actually gets before a jury.Six years was the period of legal struggle .
Depending on how you count this case ( whether re-filing counts as a new case , for example ) , this case is not even six years old.... However the whole struggle.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Basically the way this case went was:1)  Both sides file a bunch of pre-trial motions....2)  SCO loses.
Case gets thrown out without prejudice3)  SCO refiles.4)  Wash, rinse, repeat5)  SCO loses key pre-trial motions, files for bankrupcy.6)  SCO puts this case on hold via bankrupcy court.7)  Eventually, six years later, it actually gets before a jury.Six years was the period of legal struggle.
Depending on how you count this case (whether re-filing counts as a new case, for example), this case is not even six years old....  However the whole struggle.....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31635466</id>
	<title>Huzzah to groklaw, and 'good grief, jurors'</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269614880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Huzzah to groklaw, and 'good grief, jurors.'</p><p>I participated last year on a jury trial that lasted 3wks. I really cannot imagine trying to stay attentive and take good juror notes, for six years!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Huzzah to groklaw , and 'good grief , jurors .
'I participated last year on a jury trial that lasted 3wks .
I really can not imagine trying to stay attentive and take good juror notes , for six years !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huzzah to groklaw, and 'good grief, jurors.
'I participated last year on a jury trial that lasted 3wks.
I really cannot imagine trying to stay attentive and take good juror notes, for six years!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637444</id>
	<title>Re:Is UNIX even worth suing over these days?</title>
	<author>yuhong</author>
	<datestamp>1269720000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention OpenSolaris, which because of the SVR4 code, Sun had to ask permission from SCO in 2003 before they could open source. After the ruling that Novell really owned the SVR4 code, <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Novellruling.pdf" title="groklaw.net" rel="nofollow">Judge Dale Kimball wrote that</a> [groklaw.net]:
"In this case, Sun obtained the rights to opensource Solaris, and SCO received the revenue for granting such rights even though such rights remained with Novell. If the court were to declare that the contract was void and should be set aside, the court could not return the parties to the same position they were in prior to the 2003 Agreement. Sun has already received the benefits of the agreement and developed and marketed a product based on those benefits. There was also evidence at trial that OpenSolaris directly competed with Novell&rsquo;s interest. The court, therefore, cannot merely void the contract."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention OpenSolaris , which because of the SVR4 code , Sun had to ask permission from SCO in 2003 before they could open source .
After the ruling that Novell really owned the SVR4 code , Judge Dale Kimball wrote that [ groklaw.net ] : " In this case , Sun obtained the rights to opensource Solaris , and SCO received the revenue for granting such rights even though such rights remained with Novell .
If the court were to declare that the contract was void and should be set aside , the court could not return the parties to the same position they were in prior to the 2003 Agreement .
Sun has already received the benefits of the agreement and developed and marketed a product based on those benefits .
There was also evidence at trial that OpenSolaris directly competed with Novell    s interest .
The court , therefore , can not merely void the contract .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention OpenSolaris, which because of the SVR4 code, Sun had to ask permission from SCO in 2003 before they could open source.
After the ruling that Novell really owned the SVR4 code, Judge Dale Kimball wrote that [groklaw.net]:
"In this case, Sun obtained the rights to opensource Solaris, and SCO received the revenue for granting such rights even though such rights remained with Novell.
If the court were to declare that the contract was void and should be set aside, the court could not return the parties to the same position they were in prior to the 2003 Agreement.
Sun has already received the benefits of the agreement and developed and marketed a product based on those benefits.
There was also evidence at trial that OpenSolaris directly competed with Novell’s interest.
The court, therefore, cannot merely void the contract.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31638522</id>
	<title>Call me cynical</title>
	<author>BigBadBus</author>
	<datestamp>1269694440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although I truly want to see SCO pommelled into the ground, I have a niggling doubt that this may go in SCO's favour. Put it down to me having some distrust in the ability to juries, especially in complicated cases such as this. I hope I'm wrong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although I truly want to see SCO pommelled into the ground , I have a niggling doubt that this may go in SCO 's favour .
Put it down to me having some distrust in the ability to juries , especially in complicated cases such as this .
I hope I 'm wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although I truly want to see SCO pommelled into the ground, I have a niggling doubt that this may go in SCO's favour.
Put it down to me having some distrust in the ability to juries, especially in complicated cases such as this.
I hope I'm wrong.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31637434</id>
	<title>Re:Is UNIX even worth suing over these days?</title>
	<author>Alex Belits</author>
	<datestamp>1269633480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Since settlement was not disclosed at the time, BSD development continued with 4.4-Lite, that was specifically created to exclude everything that was disputed with USL.</p><p>2. This can of worms WAS opened during SCO saga, and resulted in <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20041126130302760" title="groklaw.net">the whole thing being disclosed to the publuc</a> [groklaw.net]. Basically, USL secretly agreed to stop being a bunch of assholes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Since settlement was not disclosed at the time , BSD development continued with 4.4-Lite , that was specifically created to exclude everything that was disputed with USL.2 .
This can of worms WAS opened during SCO saga , and resulted in the whole thing being disclosed to the publuc [ groklaw.net ] .
Basically , USL secretly agreed to stop being a bunch of assholes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Since settlement was not disclosed at the time, BSD development continued with 4.4-Lite, that was specifically created to exclude everything that was disputed with USL.2.
This can of worms WAS opened during SCO saga, and resulted in the whole thing being disclosed to the publuc [groklaw.net].
Basically, USL secretly agreed to stop being a bunch of assholes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_27_0027245.31638370</id>
	<title>Re:Is UNIX even worth suing over these days?</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1269692400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All those things have not stopped SCO in the past. They will sue their own mother for being born as long is there is a shimmer of hope they can make a cent out of it. Their reasoning is completely irrational, so do not be surprised if they go after BSD or Apple. There does not need to be a reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All those things have not stopped SCO in the past .
They will sue their own mother for being born as long is there is a shimmer of hope they can make a cent out of it .
Their reasoning is completely irrational , so do not be surprised if they go after BSD or Apple .
There does not need to be a reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All those things have not stopped SCO in the past.
They will sue their own mother for being born as long is there is a shimmer of hope they can make a cent out of it.
Their reasoning is completely irrational, so do not be surprised if they go after BSD or Apple.
There does not need to be a reason.</sentencetext>
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