<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_26_207213</id>
	<title>Cooling the Planet With a Bubble Bath</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1269593880000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>cremeglace writes <i>"A Harvard University physicist has come up with a new way to cool parts of the planet:  <a href="http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/03/could-tiny-bubbles-cool-the-plan.html">pump vast swarms of tiny bubbles into the sea</a> to increase its reflectivity and lower water temperatures. 'Since water covers most of the earth, don't dim the sun,' says the scientist, Russell Seitz, speaking from an international meeting on geoengineering research. 'Brighten the water.' From ScienceNOW: 'Computer simulations show that tiny bubbles could have a profound cooling effect. Using a model that simulates how light, water, and air interact, Seitz found that microbubbles could double the reflectivity of water at a concentration of only one part per million by volume. When Seitz plugged that data into a climate model, he found that the microbubble strategy could cool the planet by up to 3C. He has submitted a paper on the concept he calls &ldquo;Bright Water" to the journal <em>Climatic Change</em>.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>cremeglace writes " A Harvard University physicist has come up with a new way to cool parts of the planet : pump vast swarms of tiny bubbles into the sea to increase its reflectivity and lower water temperatures .
'Since water covers most of the earth , do n't dim the sun, ' says the scientist , Russell Seitz , speaking from an international meeting on geoengineering research .
'Brighten the water .
' From ScienceNOW : 'Computer simulations show that tiny bubbles could have a profound cooling effect .
Using a model that simulates how light , water , and air interact , Seitz found that microbubbles could double the reflectivity of water at a concentration of only one part per million by volume .
When Seitz plugged that data into a climate model , he found that the microbubble strategy could cool the planet by up to 3C .
He has submitted a paper on the concept he calls    Bright Water " to the journal Climatic Change .
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<sentencetext>cremeglace writes "A Harvard University physicist has come up with a new way to cool parts of the planet:  pump vast swarms of tiny bubbles into the sea to increase its reflectivity and lower water temperatures.
'Since water covers most of the earth, don't dim the sun,' says the scientist, Russell Seitz, speaking from an international meeting on geoengineering research.
'Brighten the water.
' From ScienceNOW: 'Computer simulations show that tiny bubbles could have a profound cooling effect.
Using a model that simulates how light, water, and air interact, Seitz found that microbubbles could double the reflectivity of water at a concentration of only one part per million by volume.
When Seitz plugged that data into a climate model, he found that the microbubble strategy could cool the planet by up to 3C.
He has submitted a paper on the concept he calls “Bright Water" to the journal Climatic Change.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633356</id>
	<title>No plankton!</title>
	<author>Torodung</author>
	<datestamp>1269602100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>Soylent green is people! It's People!</b> Ahhh you'll get my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead, bubbly hands.</p><p>--<br>Toro Heston</p><p>(Alternately, for the younger generation, "Wrong! No plankton, more money for Mr. Crabs!")</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Soylent green is people !
It 's People !
Ahhh you 'll get my gun when you pry it from my cold , dead , bubbly hands.--Toro Heston ( Alternately , for the younger generation , " Wrong !
No plankton , more money for Mr .
Crabs ! " )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Soylent green is people!
It's People!
Ahhh you'll get my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead, bubbly hands.--Toro Heston(Alternately, for the younger generation, "Wrong!
No plankton, more money for Mr.
Crabs!")</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31636012</id>
	<title>Re:Tiny Bubbles?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269618420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AGW Worshipers have their own journal now?</p><p>I guess skeptics need not submit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>AGW Worshipers have their own journal now ? I guess skeptics need not submit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AGW Worshipers have their own journal now?I guess skeptics need not submit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31634338</id>
	<title>Re:Cue Don Ho song...</title>
	<author>mswhippingboy</author>
	<datestamp>1269607860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can't believe you left out the late great Tiny Tim!<br>Tiptoeing beneath the tulips now I suppose.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't believe you left out the late great Tiny Tim ! Tiptoeing beneath the tulips now I suppose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't believe you left out the late great Tiny Tim!Tiptoeing beneath the tulips now I suppose.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632358</id>
	<title>Tiny Bubbles?</title>
	<author>gyrogeerloose</author>
	<datestamp>1269597540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has he cleared that with Don Ho?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has he cleared that with Don Ho ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has he cleared that with Don Ho?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633532</id>
	<title>Bubble druggies</title>
	<author>eclectro</author>
	<datestamp>1269603000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So the day we stop inputting the bubbles, we're all toast, except faster and crispier?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So the day we stop inputting the bubbles , we 're all toast , except faster and crispier ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So the day we stop inputting the bubbles, we're all toast, except faster and crispier?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31634566</id>
	<title>Would this really work?</title>
	<author>Junior J. Junior III</author>
	<datestamp>1269609480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember using what was basically a giant plastic sheet of bubble wrap to help increase the solar gain of our swimming pool, and keep the water a more comfortable temperature than it otherwise would have been.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember using what was basically a giant plastic sheet of bubble wrap to help increase the solar gain of our swimming pool , and keep the water a more comfortable temperature than it otherwise would have been .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember using what was basically a giant plastic sheet of bubble wrap to help increase the solar gain of our swimming pool, and keep the water a more comfortable temperature than it otherwise would have been.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31637164</id>
	<title>Rube would be proud.</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1269628380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pumping tiny bubbles into the whole ocean ? Sure, let's turn the whole Pacific into a giant can of Pepsi ! I wonder how many Jigawatts we'll need for that plan ?</p><p>The way I see it, we have the following problems.</p><p>1. The ocean is (apparently) too warm. We need a way to cool it down.</p><p>2. We are told solar is not a good solution on land, because of the area required, and the fact that underneath the panels, it would be too bloody cold to be habitable.</p><p>Solution ?</p><p>Someone needs to do some serious research into wave generators that also have solar panel arrays mounted on top as a heatshield.</p><p>You get the energy from the waves, you also get energy from the solar, AND you cool down the underlying ocean at the same time.</p><p>Oceans are about 71\% of the planet, isn't there some way this is feasible ? Or shall we just poo-poo any alternative energy source and wait for the coal and uranium to run out (around 200 years from now) ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pumping tiny bubbles into the whole ocean ?
Sure , let 's turn the whole Pacific into a giant can of Pepsi !
I wonder how many Jigawatts we 'll need for that plan ? The way I see it , we have the following problems.1 .
The ocean is ( apparently ) too warm .
We need a way to cool it down.2 .
We are told solar is not a good solution on land , because of the area required , and the fact that underneath the panels , it would be too bloody cold to be habitable.Solution ? Someone needs to do some serious research into wave generators that also have solar panel arrays mounted on top as a heatshield.You get the energy from the waves , you also get energy from the solar , AND you cool down the underlying ocean at the same time.Oceans are about 71 \ % of the planet , is n't there some way this is feasible ?
Or shall we just poo-poo any alternative energy source and wait for the coal and uranium to run out ( around 200 years from now ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pumping tiny bubbles into the whole ocean ?
Sure, let's turn the whole Pacific into a giant can of Pepsi !
I wonder how many Jigawatts we'll need for that plan ?The way I see it, we have the following problems.1.
The ocean is (apparently) too warm.
We need a way to cool it down.2.
We are told solar is not a good solution on land, because of the area required, and the fact that underneath the panels, it would be too bloody cold to be habitable.Solution ?Someone needs to do some serious research into wave generators that also have solar panel arrays mounted on top as a heatshield.You get the energy from the waves, you also get energy from the solar, AND you cool down the underlying ocean at the same time.Oceans are about 71\% of the planet, isn't there some way this is feasible ?
Or shall we just poo-poo any alternative energy source and wait for the coal and uranium to run out (around 200 years from now) ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31634000</id>
	<title>Crackpot ideas, even at Harvard</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1269605760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA:</p><p><i>Seitz says adding bubbles to a 1-square-kilometer patch of ocean is feasible, but scaling it up may be technically difficult.</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; No shit, Sherlock. I'm glad he goes to Harvard!</p><p><i>When Seitz plugged that data into a climate model, he found that the microbubble strategy could cool the planet by up to 3C.</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Well I'll be damned. It's too bad he failed to mention how many millions of square miles that need to be filled with bubbles to achieve this (hint: it's more than 1-square-kilometer), and of course like all good theoreticians there is no mention of the energy required to create this amount of bubbles 12 hours per day, what power source will be used, and of course how much equipment and manpower required and what THAT would cost.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I have my own hypothesis: Climate Science research leads to severe degeneration of higher brain functions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : Seitz says adding bubbles to a 1-square-kilometer patch of ocean is feasible , but scaling it up may be technically difficult .
      No shit , Sherlock .
I 'm glad he goes to Harvard ! When Seitz plugged that data into a climate model , he found that the microbubble strategy could cool the planet by up to 3C .
      Well I 'll be damned .
It 's too bad he failed to mention how many millions of square miles that need to be filled with bubbles to achieve this ( hint : it 's more than 1-square-kilometer ) , and of course like all good theoreticians there is no mention of the energy required to create this amount of bubbles 12 hours per day , what power source will be used , and of course how much equipment and manpower required and what THAT would cost .
      I have my own hypothesis : Climate Science research leads to severe degeneration of higher brain functions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:Seitz says adding bubbles to a 1-square-kilometer patch of ocean is feasible, but scaling it up may be technically difficult.
      No shit, Sherlock.
I'm glad he goes to Harvard!When Seitz plugged that data into a climate model, he found that the microbubble strategy could cool the planet by up to 3C.
      Well I'll be damned.
It's too bad he failed to mention how many millions of square miles that need to be filled with bubbles to achieve this (hint: it's more than 1-square-kilometer), and of course like all good theoreticians there is no mention of the energy required to create this amount of bubbles 12 hours per day, what power source will be used, and of course how much equipment and manpower required and what THAT would cost.
      I have my own hypothesis: Climate Science research leads to severe degeneration of higher brain functions.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633550</id>
	<title>Re:No mention of</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269603120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, the tagline has you covered.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , the tagline has you covered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, the tagline has you covered.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632366</id>
	<title>Tiny Bubbles</title>
	<author>billstewart</author>
	<datestamp>1269597600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad Don Ho's gone...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad Don Ho 's gone.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad Don Ho's gone...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633082</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>BobPaul</author>
	<datestamp>1269600480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or the sea birds that need to see through the surface to find fish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or the sea birds that need to see through the surface to find fish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or the sea birds that need to see through the surface to find fish.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31634734</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>blackraven14250</author>
	<datestamp>1269610620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is nearly no true plant life in the ocean. It's mostly algae.</p><p>That being said, air bubbles hurt corals and fish. They hate it. Ask any saltwater tank keeper what happens when there's too many bubbles in the tank. I had it happen just yesterday, and every single coral shriveled up until it was over, and stayed that way for a couple hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is nearly no true plant life in the ocean .
It 's mostly algae.That being said , air bubbles hurt corals and fish .
They hate it .
Ask any saltwater tank keeper what happens when there 's too many bubbles in the tank .
I had it happen just yesterday , and every single coral shriveled up until it was over , and stayed that way for a couple hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is nearly no true plant life in the ocean.
It's mostly algae.That being said, air bubbles hurt corals and fish.
They hate it.
Ask any saltwater tank keeper what happens when there's too many bubbles in the tank.
I had it happen just yesterday, and every single coral shriveled up until it was over, and stayed that way for a couple hours.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633718</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>dissy</author>
	<datestamp>1269604200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What about the sea life that relies on that heat?</p></div><p>It will live on, in our memories and hearts.  At least until the effects of that sea life dying make it to our little corner of the biosphere.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the sea life that relies on that heat ? It will live on , in our memories and hearts .
At least until the effects of that sea life dying make it to our little corner of the biosphere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the sea life that relies on that heat?It will live on, in our memories and hearts.
At least until the effects of that sea life dying make it to our little corner of the biosphere.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31634266</id>
	<title>climate model huh?</title>
	<author>timmarhy</author>
	<datestamp>1269607440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is a classic "smart people are so dumb" moment.<p>
I'm sure this guy is brillant, but he's approached the problem in such a one dimensional way that it's painful. I suspect he's not interested in ever implementing the idea, but the danger is some pressure group or politician might come across it and think it's the best thing since sliced bread.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a classic " smart people are so dumb " moment .
I 'm sure this guy is brillant , but he 's approached the problem in such a one dimensional way that it 's painful .
I suspect he 's not interested in ever implementing the idea , but the danger is some pressure group or politician might come across it and think it 's the best thing since sliced bread .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a classic "smart people are so dumb" moment.
I'm sure this guy is brillant, but he's approached the problem in such a one dimensional way that it's painful.
I suspect he's not interested in ever implementing the idea, but the danger is some pressure group or politician might come across it and think it's the best thing since sliced bread.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31642024</id>
	<title>Re:Same problems</title>
	<author>ceoyoyo</author>
	<datestamp>1269722820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are lots of places in the ocean that are very barren.  It's kind of like building a big solar plant - you probably don't want to build it over a rainforest, but so long as you don't cover all the deserts you're probably going to be okay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are lots of places in the ocean that are very barren .
It 's kind of like building a big solar plant - you probably do n't want to build it over a rainforest , but so long as you do n't cover all the deserts you 're probably going to be okay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are lots of places in the ocean that are very barren.
It's kind of like building a big solar plant - you probably don't want to build it over a rainforest, but so long as you don't cover all the deserts you're probably going to be okay.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31635412</id>
	<title>Real solution to global warming</title>
	<author>rahvin112</author>
	<datestamp>1269614640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Look if we are going to go to the level of planet wide environmental alterations to avoid reducing carbon output why don't we just move the planet further from the sun? Take the climate models, figure out how much sequestered carbon we could put into the atmosphere, adjust the model, then slide the planet into an orbit farther from the sun that negates the effect of the increased CO2 in the atmosphere. If we ever stop using carbon based energy we just slide the planet back into the current orbit.</p><p>People, planet wide massive alteration of environment is as feasible as my ridiculous proposal. We don't understand the full impact of what we are doing or could do.</p><p>Climate models are uniformly complex guesses at best and completely wrong at worst. I believe carbon output is a problem long term, if we put all the sequestered carbon back into the atmosphere the planet will eventually return to the planet of the dinosaurs, very warm, very wet and a lot less land (as sea level rises). It's not going to cause human beings to go extinct, it's not going to really harm the planet. What it is going to do is displace a LOT of people and that's going to cause some rather big catastrophic wars. But the solution is not to try to alter something we have no idea what the other effects would be. Of the top of my head millions of bubbling devices in the oceans is going to cause increased acidity from the additional carbonic acid, what's the effect of that? It's a silly idea at best and catastrophic environmental tampering that could cause more severe problems than global warming at worst.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Look if we are going to go to the level of planet wide environmental alterations to avoid reducing carbon output why do n't we just move the planet further from the sun ?
Take the climate models , figure out how much sequestered carbon we could put into the atmosphere , adjust the model , then slide the planet into an orbit farther from the sun that negates the effect of the increased CO2 in the atmosphere .
If we ever stop using carbon based energy we just slide the planet back into the current orbit.People , planet wide massive alteration of environment is as feasible as my ridiculous proposal .
We do n't understand the full impact of what we are doing or could do.Climate models are uniformly complex guesses at best and completely wrong at worst .
I believe carbon output is a problem long term , if we put all the sequestered carbon back into the atmosphere the planet will eventually return to the planet of the dinosaurs , very warm , very wet and a lot less land ( as sea level rises ) .
It 's not going to cause human beings to go extinct , it 's not going to really harm the planet .
What it is going to do is displace a LOT of people and that 's going to cause some rather big catastrophic wars .
But the solution is not to try to alter something we have no idea what the other effects would be .
Of the top of my head millions of bubbling devices in the oceans is going to cause increased acidity from the additional carbonic acid , what 's the effect of that ?
It 's a silly idea at best and catastrophic environmental tampering that could cause more severe problems than global warming at worst .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Look if we are going to go to the level of planet wide environmental alterations to avoid reducing carbon output why don't we just move the planet further from the sun?
Take the climate models, figure out how much sequestered carbon we could put into the atmosphere, adjust the model, then slide the planet into an orbit farther from the sun that negates the effect of the increased CO2 in the atmosphere.
If we ever stop using carbon based energy we just slide the planet back into the current orbit.People, planet wide massive alteration of environment is as feasible as my ridiculous proposal.
We don't understand the full impact of what we are doing or could do.Climate models are uniformly complex guesses at best and completely wrong at worst.
I believe carbon output is a problem long term, if we put all the sequestered carbon back into the atmosphere the planet will eventually return to the planet of the dinosaurs, very warm, very wet and a lot less land (as sea level rises).
It's not going to cause human beings to go extinct, it's not going to really harm the planet.
What it is going to do is displace a LOT of people and that's going to cause some rather big catastrophic wars.
But the solution is not to try to alter something we have no idea what the other effects would be.
Of the top of my head millions of bubbling devices in the oceans is going to cause increased acidity from the additional carbonic acid, what's the effect of that?
It's a silly idea at best and catastrophic environmental tampering that could cause more severe problems than global warming at worst.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31637626</id>
	<title>What happened to the plan</title>
	<author>shnull</author>
	<datestamp>1269680460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>where everybody had to paint their roofs white so sunlight would reflect more<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that one seemes actually plausible AND doable to me given a global media campaign or two<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>where everybody had to paint their roofs white so sunlight would reflect more ... that one seemes actually plausible AND doable to me given a global media campaign or two .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>where everybody had to paint their roofs white so sunlight would reflect more ... that one seemes actually plausible AND doable to me given a global media campaign or two ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31638040</id>
	<title>Re:Cue Don Ho song...</title>
	<author>otie</author>
	<datestamp>1269687660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Poor guy, Don Ho... I haven't the heart to tell him, but all the women in his family are Hos!</p></div><p>All (or most) of the Ho girls who marry will eventually stop being Hos, though. I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Poor guy , Don Ho... I have n't the heart to tell him , but all the women in his family are Hos ! All ( or most ) of the Ho girls who marry will eventually stop being Hos , though .
I 'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Poor guy, Don Ho... I haven't the heart to tell him, but all the women in his family are Hos!All (or most) of the Ho girls who marry will eventually stop being Hos, though.
I'm not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing...
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31648982</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269804060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck em, they need to come up with their own idea. I am so tired of humans taking the sea life's side.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck em , they need to come up with their own idea .
I am so tired of humans taking the sea life 's side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck em, they need to come up with their own idea.
I am so tired of humans taking the sea life's side.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633716</id>
	<title>Re:Cue Don Ho song...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269604200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm guessing its blues-dispelling efficacy was fairly low as far as Kurt was concerned...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing its blues-dispelling efficacy was fairly low as far as Kurt was concerned.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing its blues-dispelling efficacy was fairly low as far as Kurt was concerned...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632432</id>
	<title>No mention of</title>
	<author>Rik Sweeney</author>
	<datestamp>1269597840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a rubber duck. It's not a proper bubble bath without a rubber duck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a rubber duck .
It 's not a proper bubble bath without a rubber duck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a rubber duck.
It's not a proper bubble bath without a rubber duck.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632624</id>
	<title>Re:Same problems</title>
	<author>twitcher101</author>
	<datestamp>1269598500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And while part of the problem is the IR energy stored in the oceans, the problem is still that too much radiation is trapped by the atmosphere. This solution would only work if the sun was the problem, rather than the atmosphere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And while part of the problem is the IR energy stored in the oceans , the problem is still that too much radiation is trapped by the atmosphere .
This solution would only work if the sun was the problem , rather than the atmosphere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And while part of the problem is the IR energy stored in the oceans, the problem is still that too much radiation is trapped by the atmosphere.
This solution would only work if the sun was the problem, rather than the atmosphere.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31634170</id>
	<title>Re:Cue Don Ho song...</title>
	<author>gyrogeerloose</author>
	<datestamp>1269606900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I always feel like they're not really thinking through all the possible ramifications. Bubbles in the Sea? It might be worth thinking about what that would do to ocean life.</p> </div><p>My smart-ass first post not withstanding (I just couldn't resist the Don Ho joke), I agree with you completely. Bubbles might help alleviate climate change but they're likely to cause all kinds of havoc with the phytoplankton that are the base of the oceanic food chain.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always feel like they 're not really thinking through all the possible ramifications .
Bubbles in the Sea ?
It might be worth thinking about what that would do to ocean life .
My smart-ass first post not withstanding ( I just could n't resist the Don Ho joke ) , I agree with you completely .
Bubbles might help alleviate climate change but they 're likely to cause all kinds of havoc with the phytoplankton that are the base of the oceanic food chain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I always feel like they're not really thinking through all the possible ramifications.
Bubbles in the Sea?
It might be worth thinking about what that would do to ocean life.
My smart-ass first post not withstanding (I just couldn't resist the Don Ho joke), I agree with you completely.
Bubbles might help alleviate climate change but they're likely to cause all kinds of havoc with the phytoplankton that are the base of the oceanic food chain.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632386</id>
	<title>Cue Don Ho song...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269597720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)<br>
In the sea (in the sea)<br>
Make me happy (make me happy)<br>
Make me feel free (make me feel free)<br>

<br>
Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)<br>
Make me warm all over<br>
With a feeling that I'm gonna<br>
Love you till the end of time<br>
<br>

So here's to the golden moon<br>
And here's to the silver sea<br>
And mostly here's a toast<br>
To you and me<br>

<br>
So here's to the ginger lei<br>
I give to you today<br>
And here's a kiss<br>
That will not fade away<br> <br>

Poor guy, Don Ho... I haven't the heart to tell him, but all the women in his family are Hos!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tiny bubbles ( tiny bubbles ) In the sea ( in the sea ) Make me happy ( make me happy ) Make me feel free ( make me feel free ) Tiny bubbles ( tiny bubbles ) Make me warm all over With a feeling that I 'm gon na Love you till the end of time So here 's to the golden moon And here 's to the silver sea And mostly here 's a toast To you and me So here 's to the ginger lei I give to you today And here 's a kiss That will not fade away Poor guy , Don Ho... I have n't the heart to tell him , but all the women in his family are Hos !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)
In the sea (in the sea)
Make me happy (make me happy)
Make me feel free (make me feel free)


Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)
Make me warm all over
With a feeling that I'm gonna
Love you till the end of time


So here's to the golden moon
And here's to the silver sea
And mostly here's a toast
To you and me


So here's to the ginger lei
I give to you today
And here's a kiss
That will not fade away 

Poor guy, Don Ho... I haven't the heart to tell him, but all the women in his family are Hos!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31657324</id>
	<title>Isn't there a Cheaper way?</title>
	<author>missyox</author>
	<datestamp>1269878280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sounds Very Expensive!    There is our tax dollars at work.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds Very Expensive !
There is our tax dollars at work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds Very Expensive!
There is our tax dollars at work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31635178</id>
	<title>Al Gore will love this idea</title>
	<author>NicknamesAreStupid</author>
	<datestamp>1269613140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Plop, plop<br>
Fizz, fizz<br>
Oh, what a relief it is!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Plop , plop Fizz , fizz Oh , what a relief it is !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Plop, plop
Fizz, fizz
Oh, what a relief it is!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632576</id>
	<title>Re:Didn't he hear the new problem?</title>
	<author>twitcher101</author>
	<datestamp>1269598380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Acidfication caused by too much carbon, which is also causing the warming, which means the same solution is required, not an adaptation.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Acidfication caused by too much carbon , which is also causing the warming , which means the same solution is required , not an adaptation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Acidfication caused by too much carbon, which is also causing the warming, which means the same solution is required, not an adaptation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633738</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269604320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ya it could be that the earth just doesn't stay at one temp, but fluctuates, and that the science to confirm global warming is just to get money (sense it is a big part of politics, it attracts money to those who can SAVE THE EARTH). Sorry but the earth goes through natural warming and cooling periods (ever heard of the ice age (it was COLDER then)) and it just so happens it is getting warmer now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ya it could be that the earth just does n't stay at one temp , but fluctuates , and that the science to confirm global warming is just to get money ( sense it is a big part of politics , it attracts money to those who can SAVE THE EARTH ) .
Sorry but the earth goes through natural warming and cooling periods ( ever heard of the ice age ( it was COLDER then ) ) and it just so happens it is getting warmer now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ya it could be that the earth just doesn't stay at one temp, but fluctuates, and that the science to confirm global warming is just to get money (sense it is a big part of politics, it attracts money to those who can SAVE THE EARTH).
Sorry but the earth goes through natural warming and cooling periods (ever heard of the ice age (it was COLDER then)) and it just so happens it is getting warmer now.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633462</id>
	<title>Re:I still say we just move the Earth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269602580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recall an old Discover article that had a pretty good idea even for a light-humored bit whose purpose was nothing more than a thought experiment.</p><p>The idea was not to move the Earth (since that kind of force would crumple the crust and cause all sorts of unpleasant disasters such as ruining the atmosphere and tsunamis and the like) but to move the moon and use that mass to alter Earth's orbit over time.  Mind you this was just a musing of ways to avoid getting baked in 5 billion years when the sun goes into red giant mode.  As for how we'd move the moon, well, that was iffy.  Might have been anti-matter, might have been mass drives.  Also, might have been anti-matter powered mass drives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recall an old Discover article that had a pretty good idea even for a light-humored bit whose purpose was nothing more than a thought experiment.The idea was not to move the Earth ( since that kind of force would crumple the crust and cause all sorts of unpleasant disasters such as ruining the atmosphere and tsunamis and the like ) but to move the moon and use that mass to alter Earth 's orbit over time .
Mind you this was just a musing of ways to avoid getting baked in 5 billion years when the sun goes into red giant mode .
As for how we 'd move the moon , well , that was iffy .
Might have been anti-matter , might have been mass drives .
Also , might have been anti-matter powered mass drives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recall an old Discover article that had a pretty good idea even for a light-humored bit whose purpose was nothing more than a thought experiment.The idea was not to move the Earth (since that kind of force would crumple the crust and cause all sorts of unpleasant disasters such as ruining the atmosphere and tsunamis and the like) but to move the moon and use that mass to alter Earth's orbit over time.
Mind you this was just a musing of ways to avoid getting baked in 5 billion years when the sun goes into red giant mode.
As for how we'd move the moon, well, that was iffy.
Might have been anti-matter, might have been mass drives.
Also, might have been anti-matter powered mass drives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31636394</id>
	<title>simulation</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269621060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>never works with unexpected values<br>so don't try to 'find' facts within simulations</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>never works with unexpected valuesso do n't try to 'find ' facts within simulations</tokentext>
<sentencetext>never works with unexpected valuesso don't try to 'find' facts within simulations</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31636302</id>
	<title>Re:No mention of</title>
	<author>Type44Q</author>
	<datestamp>1269620520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Finally figured out why this was modded insightful: it's because I've been drinking.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally figured out why this was modded insightful : it 's because I 've been drinking .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally figured out why this was modded insightful: it's because I've been drinking.
:P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31636914</id>
	<title>Re:I still say we just move the Earth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269625620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's right next to the big red button that says "KLAATU BARADA NIKTO".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's right next to the big red button that says " KLAATU BARADA NIKTO " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's right next to the big red button that says "KLAATU BARADA NIKTO".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633206</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>cheekyboy</author>
	<datestamp>1269601140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard that the actual planet was going into an ice age, and that the recent global warming by man saved us all from 1000 years of frozen hell.</p><p>Seriously though, more heat is better than less heat, a run away cooling/frozen world is real bad, nothing grows at sub zero temps.</p><p>But a hotter planet with more co2, well plants grow faster, and who knows cows could grow to the size of dinasours<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard that the actual planet was going into an ice age , and that the recent global warming by man saved us all from 1000 years of frozen hell.Seriously though , more heat is better than less heat , a run away cooling/frozen world is real bad , nothing grows at sub zero temps.But a hotter planet with more co2 , well plants grow faster , and who knows cows could grow to the size of dinasours : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard that the actual planet was going into an ice age, and that the recent global warming by man saved us all from 1000 years of frozen hell.Seriously though, more heat is better than less heat, a run away cooling/frozen world is real bad, nothing grows at sub zero temps.But a hotter planet with more co2, well plants grow faster, and who knows cows could grow to the size of dinasours :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633278</id>
	<title>Obligatory Big Lebowski Quote</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269601560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you 're not wrong Walter , you 're just an asshole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you're not wrong Walter, you're just an asshole.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31636568</id>
	<title>Is there an echo in here?</title>
	<author>symbolset</author>
	<datestamp>1269622920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I heard that the actual planet was going into an ice age, and that the recent global warming by man saved us all from 1000 years of frozen hell.</p></div><p>I had heard that too!  Or maybe it was me.  Who knows?
</p><p>The theory of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovich\_cycle" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Milankovich cycles</a> [wikipedia.org] is as yet incomplete.  If you read the the wiki page, it reads like "there are these definite cycles that we have really good data on.  We see the pattern!  But no, we don't know what's going to happen next."  Imbrie thought that absent anthropogenic effects we had begun our inevitable descent into the ice 6,000 years ago.  Berger's more recent work disagrees.  It's interesting to me that the origins of written history is almost exactly that long ago.  I think maybe the warmists are working this wikipage. Everybody pretty much agrees that the next ice age is going to be quite unpleasant - on that the science is settled.  Everybody agrees it's coming eventually no matter what we do - we could use all the remaining fossil fuels to lubricate the fission-powered engines that extract and cook the CO2 out of all the available limestone, and we still could not prevent it.  It will be cold. There will be mass extinctions including possibly <b>us</b>, the ocean will drop dozens of meters.  All the coral beds we know of will die.  Panamanians will erect a sizeable wall to prevent illegal immigration.  Hemlines will drop and the market for bikinis will collapse!
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Seriously though, more heat is better than less heat, a run away cooling/frozen world is real bad, nothing grows at sub zero temps.</p></div><p>The planet has been warmer than it is by a little bit, and much much colder.  Given my 'druthers, I'druther 'twere warmer.  From a strict Darwinist philosophy I'd prefer it be warmer until my own offspring had had time to multiply and spread far and wide - across the globe and beyond.  Maybe twelve generations (about 420 years).  If we can achieve that, then there will be enough of them in enough places that when the climate changes cold again some of them may be resourceful enough, and ornery enough, to hunt your progeny for food and adaptive enough to survive until the end of Man - or until it turns warm again, whichever comes first. In the meantime I'd prefer it if y'all would constrain your population growth.  Once the ice comes, there will be no space travel.  It will be too late.  For that reason if no other, it were best we get our offsite backups established now. From the point of view of human populations, a prolonged drop of 2C would be an agricultural disaster and 4C would have us hunting fellow humans for food. The Vostok cores suggest a mean over the last 400K years of -5C and a low of -9C. -8C for a prolonged period was no more than 20,000 years ago. The places where crops grow best <i>must not</i> move toward the land-poor equator or we're sunk.  There's <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=-25.799891,-54.84375&amp;spn=176.443424,360&amp;z=1" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">lots more frozen land</a> [google.com] to thaw and grow crops on further from the equator to support the 3 Billion more people we're <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World-Population-1800-2100.png" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">expecting</a> [wikipedia.org] in the next 40 years.  The outside track has us needing more than 2x the food and other resources we produce 80 years from today and projecting out, it's hopeless.  We're bacteria in a dish, consuming resources and reproducing to consume all the energy that's available, and then evolving to best subsist on the effluent of others until the ecology in the dish becomes too toxic to sustain life or we escape the dish.  That's how life works.  If we don't escape our petri dish the outcome is a foregone conclusion and nothing else we ever do will matter in the long run because we and our progeny will have died out and Nature will try again with a genome that's a little less stupid.
</p><p>Regardless, this whole article is silly.  Bubbles float to the surface and pop.  Anything you could add to the ocean to make vast quantities of durable bubbles would be an ecological catastrophe, and besides would require immense amounts of energy to pump the air into the ocean - energy produced most likely from fossil fuels.  If you're going to do this, why not mow down the world's forests and spread out talcum powder from drone helecopters?  Or mandate that roads and roofing shingles shall be white?  At least those actions are durable for more than a few <i>minutes</i>.
</p><p>Sooner or later we'll get a few big volcanos that ash the atmosphere and cool things off for quite a while.  The ash blocks the sun and seeds the clouds that give the snow that builds the glaciers that paint the surface white and increases the Earth's albedo - thereby reflecting sunlight into space, positively reinforcing the effects and providing a nice place for Olympic sled teams to practice.  I hear <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=iceland+volcano+eruption" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">Iceland</a> [google.com] is acting up.  From one of the linked articles:
</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Iceland's Laki volcano erupted in 1783, freeing gases that turned into smog. The smog floated across the Jet Stream, changing weather patterns. Many died from gas poisoning in the British Isles. Crop production fell in western Europe. Famine spread. Some even linked the eruption, which helped fuel famine, to the French Revolution. Painters in the 18th century illustrated fiery sunsets in their works.

</p><p>The winter of 1784 was also one of the longest and coldest on record in North America. New England reported a record stretch of below-zero temperatures and New Jersey reported record snow accumulation. The Mississippi River also reportedly froze in New Orleans.</p></div><p>Perhaps the most cost-effective solution would involve encouraging volcanos by vaporizing the caps that contain them with some carefully placed nuclear weapons.  If we're going to ignore ecology to solve the "problem" of the climate being warm enough for us to live in, why not go all the way?  We could solve this "problem" on Thursday.  There are more opportune placements for the nukes than Iceland.  Yellowstone and the other <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">other supervolcanos</a> [wikipedia.org] spring to mind.  Or maybe this is a little too much "<a href="http://whippersnapper.wordpress.com/2007/07/20/no-thats-the-beautiful-part-when-wintertime-rolls-around-the-gorillas-simply-freeze-to-death/" title="wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">and when wintertime rolls around the gorillas simply freeze to death</a> [wordpress.com]".
</p><p>/Some of this comment may be hyperbole, satire or humor.  Your mileage may vary.  Thursday is the first of April.  And yes, this comment is planted so deep maybe four people will see it ever.  There will be no anchovies unless specifically requested.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I heard that the actual planet was going into an ice age , and that the recent global warming by man saved us all from 1000 years of frozen hell.I had heard that too !
Or maybe it was me .
Who knows ?
The theory of Milankovich cycles [ wikipedia.org ] is as yet incomplete .
If you read the the wiki page , it reads like " there are these definite cycles that we have really good data on .
We see the pattern !
But no , we do n't know what 's going to happen next .
" Imbrie thought that absent anthropogenic effects we had begun our inevitable descent into the ice 6,000 years ago .
Berger 's more recent work disagrees .
It 's interesting to me that the origins of written history is almost exactly that long ago .
I think maybe the warmists are working this wikipage .
Everybody pretty much agrees that the next ice age is going to be quite unpleasant - on that the science is settled .
Everybody agrees it 's coming eventually no matter what we do - we could use all the remaining fossil fuels to lubricate the fission-powered engines that extract and cook the CO2 out of all the available limestone , and we still could not prevent it .
It will be cold .
There will be mass extinctions including possibly us , the ocean will drop dozens of meters .
All the coral beds we know of will die .
Panamanians will erect a sizeable wall to prevent illegal immigration .
Hemlines will drop and the market for bikinis will collapse !
Seriously though , more heat is better than less heat , a run away cooling/frozen world is real bad , nothing grows at sub zero temps.The planet has been warmer than it is by a little bit , and much much colder .
Given my 'druthers , I'druther 'twere warmer .
From a strict Darwinist philosophy I 'd prefer it be warmer until my own offspring had had time to multiply and spread far and wide - across the globe and beyond .
Maybe twelve generations ( about 420 years ) .
If we can achieve that , then there will be enough of them in enough places that when the climate changes cold again some of them may be resourceful enough , and ornery enough , to hunt your progeny for food and adaptive enough to survive until the end of Man - or until it turns warm again , whichever comes first .
In the meantime I 'd prefer it if y'all would constrain your population growth .
Once the ice comes , there will be no space travel .
It will be too late .
For that reason if no other , it were best we get our offsite backups established now .
From the point of view of human populations , a prolonged drop of 2C would be an agricultural disaster and 4C would have us hunting fellow humans for food .
The Vostok cores suggest a mean over the last 400K years of -5C and a low of -9C .
-8C for a prolonged period was no more than 20,000 years ago .
The places where crops grow best must not move toward the land-poor equator or we 're sunk .
There 's lots more frozen land [ google.com ] to thaw and grow crops on further from the equator to support the 3 Billion more people we 're expecting [ wikipedia.org ] in the next 40 years .
The outside track has us needing more than 2x the food and other resources we produce 80 years from today and projecting out , it 's hopeless .
We 're bacteria in a dish , consuming resources and reproducing to consume all the energy that 's available , and then evolving to best subsist on the effluent of others until the ecology in the dish becomes too toxic to sustain life or we escape the dish .
That 's how life works .
If we do n't escape our petri dish the outcome is a foregone conclusion and nothing else we ever do will matter in the long run because we and our progeny will have died out and Nature will try again with a genome that 's a little less stupid .
Regardless , this whole article is silly .
Bubbles float to the surface and pop .
Anything you could add to the ocean to make vast quantities of durable bubbles would be an ecological catastrophe , and besides would require immense amounts of energy to pump the air into the ocean - energy produced most likely from fossil fuels .
If you 're going to do this , why not mow down the world 's forests and spread out talcum powder from drone helecopters ?
Or mandate that roads and roofing shingles shall be white ?
At least those actions are durable for more than a few minutes .
Sooner or later we 'll get a few big volcanos that ash the atmosphere and cool things off for quite a while .
The ash blocks the sun and seeds the clouds that give the snow that builds the glaciers that paint the surface white and increases the Earth 's albedo - thereby reflecting sunlight into space , positively reinforcing the effects and providing a nice place for Olympic sled teams to practice .
I hear Iceland [ google.com ] is acting up .
From one of the linked articles : Iceland 's Laki volcano erupted in 1783 , freeing gases that turned into smog .
The smog floated across the Jet Stream , changing weather patterns .
Many died from gas poisoning in the British Isles .
Crop production fell in western Europe .
Famine spread .
Some even linked the eruption , which helped fuel famine , to the French Revolution .
Painters in the 18th century illustrated fiery sunsets in their works .
The winter of 1784 was also one of the longest and coldest on record in North America .
New England reported a record stretch of below-zero temperatures and New Jersey reported record snow accumulation .
The Mississippi River also reportedly froze in New Orleans.Perhaps the most cost-effective solution would involve encouraging volcanos by vaporizing the caps that contain them with some carefully placed nuclear weapons .
If we 're going to ignore ecology to solve the " problem " of the climate being warm enough for us to live in , why not go all the way ?
We could solve this " problem " on Thursday .
There are more opportune placements for the nukes than Iceland .
Yellowstone and the other other supervolcanos [ wikipedia.org ] spring to mind .
Or maybe this is a little too much " and when wintertime rolls around the gorillas simply freeze to death [ wordpress.com ] " .
/Some of this comment may be hyperbole , satire or humor .
Your mileage may vary .
Thursday is the first of April .
And yes , this comment is planted so deep maybe four people will see it ever .
There will be no anchovies unless specifically requested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard that the actual planet was going into an ice age, and that the recent global warming by man saved us all from 1000 years of frozen hell.I had heard that too!
Or maybe it was me.
Who knows?
The theory of Milankovich cycles [wikipedia.org] is as yet incomplete.
If you read the the wiki page, it reads like "there are these definite cycles that we have really good data on.
We see the pattern!
But no, we don't know what's going to happen next.
"  Imbrie thought that absent anthropogenic effects we had begun our inevitable descent into the ice 6,000 years ago.
Berger's more recent work disagrees.
It's interesting to me that the origins of written history is almost exactly that long ago.
I think maybe the warmists are working this wikipage.
Everybody pretty much agrees that the next ice age is going to be quite unpleasant - on that the science is settled.
Everybody agrees it's coming eventually no matter what we do - we could use all the remaining fossil fuels to lubricate the fission-powered engines that extract and cook the CO2 out of all the available limestone, and we still could not prevent it.
It will be cold.
There will be mass extinctions including possibly us, the ocean will drop dozens of meters.
All the coral beds we know of will die.
Panamanians will erect a sizeable wall to prevent illegal immigration.
Hemlines will drop and the market for bikinis will collapse!
Seriously though, more heat is better than less heat, a run away cooling/frozen world is real bad, nothing grows at sub zero temps.The planet has been warmer than it is by a little bit, and much much colder.
Given my 'druthers, I'druther 'twere warmer.
From a strict Darwinist philosophy I'd prefer it be warmer until my own offspring had had time to multiply and spread far and wide - across the globe and beyond.
Maybe twelve generations (about 420 years).
If we can achieve that, then there will be enough of them in enough places that when the climate changes cold again some of them may be resourceful enough, and ornery enough, to hunt your progeny for food and adaptive enough to survive until the end of Man - or until it turns warm again, whichever comes first.
In the meantime I'd prefer it if y'all would constrain your population growth.
Once the ice comes, there will be no space travel.
It will be too late.
For that reason if no other, it were best we get our offsite backups established now.
From the point of view of human populations, a prolonged drop of 2C would be an agricultural disaster and 4C would have us hunting fellow humans for food.
The Vostok cores suggest a mean over the last 400K years of -5C and a low of -9C.
-8C for a prolonged period was no more than 20,000 years ago.
The places where crops grow best must not move toward the land-poor equator or we're sunk.
There's lots more frozen land [google.com] to thaw and grow crops on further from the equator to support the 3 Billion more people we're expecting [wikipedia.org] in the next 40 years.
The outside track has us needing more than 2x the food and other resources we produce 80 years from today and projecting out, it's hopeless.
We're bacteria in a dish, consuming resources and reproducing to consume all the energy that's available, and then evolving to best subsist on the effluent of others until the ecology in the dish becomes too toxic to sustain life or we escape the dish.
That's how life works.
If we don't escape our petri dish the outcome is a foregone conclusion and nothing else we ever do will matter in the long run because we and our progeny will have died out and Nature will try again with a genome that's a little less stupid.
Regardless, this whole article is silly.
Bubbles float to the surface and pop.
Anything you could add to the ocean to make vast quantities of durable bubbles would be an ecological catastrophe, and besides would require immense amounts of energy to pump the air into the ocean - energy produced most likely from fossil fuels.
If you're going to do this, why not mow down the world's forests and spread out talcum powder from drone helecopters?
Or mandate that roads and roofing shingles shall be white?
At least those actions are durable for more than a few minutes.
Sooner or later we'll get a few big volcanos that ash the atmosphere and cool things off for quite a while.
The ash blocks the sun and seeds the clouds that give the snow that builds the glaciers that paint the surface white and increases the Earth's albedo - thereby reflecting sunlight into space, positively reinforcing the effects and providing a nice place for Olympic sled teams to practice.
I hear Iceland [google.com] is acting up.
From one of the linked articles:
Iceland's Laki volcano erupted in 1783, freeing gases that turned into smog.
The smog floated across the Jet Stream, changing weather patterns.
Many died from gas poisoning in the British Isles.
Crop production fell in western Europe.
Famine spread.
Some even linked the eruption, which helped fuel famine, to the French Revolution.
Painters in the 18th century illustrated fiery sunsets in their works.
The winter of 1784 was also one of the longest and coldest on record in North America.
New England reported a record stretch of below-zero temperatures and New Jersey reported record snow accumulation.
The Mississippi River also reportedly froze in New Orleans.Perhaps the most cost-effective solution would involve encouraging volcanos by vaporizing the caps that contain them with some carefully placed nuclear weapons.
If we're going to ignore ecology to solve the "problem" of the climate being warm enough for us to live in, why not go all the way?
We could solve this "problem" on Thursday.
There are more opportune placements for the nukes than Iceland.
Yellowstone and the other other supervolcanos [wikipedia.org] spring to mind.
Or maybe this is a little too much "and when wintertime rolls around the gorillas simply freeze to death [wordpress.com]".
/Some of this comment may be hyperbole, satire or humor.
Your mileage may vary.
Thursday is the first of April.
And yes, this comment is planted so deep maybe four people will see it ever.
There will be no anchovies unless specifically requested.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632398</id>
	<title>I still say we just move the Earth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269597720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It can't be that hard... Just put some giant rockets on one side, and boom!  What could go wrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It ca n't be that hard... Just put some giant rockets on one side , and boom !
What could go wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It can't be that hard... Just put some giant rockets on one side, and boom!
What could go wrong?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632538</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>Rivalz</author>
	<datestamp>1269598260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm not a scientist but I would think that the water temperature has been getting warmer and that the experiment would offset the increase in temperature.
If on the other hand it makes the ocean a giant ice cube killing all marine life to cool the earth by 3 C then that would probably be a bad idea.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not a scientist but I would think that the water temperature has been getting warmer and that the experiment would offset the increase in temperature .
If on the other hand it makes the ocean a giant ice cube killing all marine life to cool the earth by 3 C then that would probably be a bad idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not a scientist but I would think that the water temperature has been getting warmer and that the experiment would offset the increase in temperature.
If on the other hand it makes the ocean a giant ice cube killing all marine life to cool the earth by 3 C then that would probably be a bad idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31634674</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>blackraven14250</author>
	<datestamp>1269610140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd be more worried about the sea life that gets injured by air bubbles outright. Fish die in saltwater tanks if their gills get exposed to too much air. I had a "bubble outbreak" in my tank yesterday due to some epoxy changing the surface tension of the water with a byproduct of the reaction, and all of my corals shriveled up until the bubbles were gone for a good 2 hours.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be more worried about the sea life that gets injured by air bubbles outright .
Fish die in saltwater tanks if their gills get exposed to too much air .
I had a " bubble outbreak " in my tank yesterday due to some epoxy changing the surface tension of the water with a byproduct of the reaction , and all of my corals shriveled up until the bubbles were gone for a good 2 hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be more worried about the sea life that gets injured by air bubbles outright.
Fish die in saltwater tanks if their gills get exposed to too much air.
I had a "bubble outbreak" in my tank yesterday due to some epoxy changing the surface tension of the water with a byproduct of the reaction, and all of my corals shriveled up until the bubbles were gone for a good 2 hours.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31637888</id>
	<title>Obligatory Futurama Reference</title>
	<author>fyoder</author>
	<datestamp>1269684960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Narrator: [in movie] Fortunately, our handsomest politicians came up with a cheap, last-minute way to combat global warming. Ever since 2063 we simply drop a giant ice cube into the ocean every now and then.</p><p>[The movie cuts to a shot of a aircraft dropping a large ice cube into the ocean and then cuts back to the classroom.]</p><p>Suzie: [in movie] Just like Daddy puts in his drink every morning. And then he gets mad.</p><p>Narrator: [in movie] Of course, since the greenhouse gases are still building up, it takes more and more ice each time. [There are shots of bigger ice cubes being dropped into the ocean.] Thus solving the problem once and for all.</p><p>Suzie: [in movie] But--</p><p>Narrator: [angry; in movie.] Once and for all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Narrator : [ in movie ] Fortunately , our handsomest politicians came up with a cheap , last-minute way to combat global warming .
Ever since 2063 we simply drop a giant ice cube into the ocean every now and then .
[ The movie cuts to a shot of a aircraft dropping a large ice cube into the ocean and then cuts back to the classroom .
] Suzie : [ in movie ] Just like Daddy puts in his drink every morning .
And then he gets mad.Narrator : [ in movie ] Of course , since the greenhouse gases are still building up , it takes more and more ice each time .
[ There are shots of bigger ice cubes being dropped into the ocean .
] Thus solving the problem once and for all.Suzie : [ in movie ] But--Narrator : [ angry ; in movie .
] Once and for all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Narrator: [in movie] Fortunately, our handsomest politicians came up with a cheap, last-minute way to combat global warming.
Ever since 2063 we simply drop a giant ice cube into the ocean every now and then.
[The movie cuts to a shot of a aircraft dropping a large ice cube into the ocean and then cuts back to the classroom.
]Suzie: [in movie] Just like Daddy puts in his drink every morning.
And then he gets mad.Narrator: [in movie] Of course, since the greenhouse gases are still building up, it takes more and more ice each time.
[There are shots of bigger ice cubes being dropped into the ocean.
] Thus solving the problem once and for all.Suzie: [in movie] But--Narrator: [angry; in movie.
] Once and for all!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632672</id>
	<title>Location Location Location</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269598680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nearly all sea life resides within a few dozen miles of land.  The vast majority of oceans are empty and vacant, even of microbes like algae and krill. True, there are a few organisms that travel the large open expanses of water, but most stay near the coastlines.  <br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; light however, hits indiscrimnately. The end result is that in the right locations (far away from coastlines and major currents), large areas of bubbles could be made with no significant effect on any sea organisms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nearly all sea life resides within a few dozen miles of land .
The vast majority of oceans are empty and vacant , even of microbes like algae and krill .
True , there are a few organisms that travel the large open expanses of water , but most stay near the coastlines .
    light however , hits indiscrimnately .
The end result is that in the right locations ( far away from coastlines and major currents ) , large areas of bubbles could be made with no significant effect on any sea organisms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nearly all sea life resides within a few dozen miles of land.
The vast majority of oceans are empty and vacant, even of microbes like algae and krill.
True, there are a few organisms that travel the large open expanses of water, but most stay near the coastlines.
  
  light however, hits indiscrimnately.
The end result is that in the right locations (far away from coastlines and major currents), large areas of bubbles could be made with no significant effect on any sea organisms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633484</id>
	<title>Reflectivity</title>
	<author>Fishbulb</author>
	<datestamp>1269602700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't higher reflectivity of the ocean lead to an increase in the heat absorption of CO2 in the atmosphere, being that a given reflected photon would have twice the chance of striking a CO2 molecule in the atmosphere?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't higher reflectivity of the ocean lead to an increase in the heat absorption of CO2 in the atmosphere , being that a given reflected photon would have twice the chance of striking a CO2 molecule in the atmosphere ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't higher reflectivity of the ocean lead to an increase in the heat absorption of CO2 in the atmosphere, being that a given reflected photon would have twice the chance of striking a CO2 molecule in the atmosphere?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632416</id>
	<title>Didn't he hear the new problem?</title>
	<author>AmazinglySmooth</author>
	<datestamp>1269597780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Everyone knows the new problem isn't warming; the new problem is acidification of the oceans.  Ugh.  Keep up, please.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Everyone knows the new problem is n't warming ; the new problem is acidification of the oceans .
Ugh. Keep up , please .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Everyone knows the new problem isn't warming; the new problem is acidification of the oceans.
Ugh.  Keep up, please.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632748</id>
	<title>Re:Cue Don Ho song...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269599040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I did that at Trent's wedding.  HAHAHAHA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did that at Trent 's wedding .
HAHAHAHA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I did that at Trent's wedding.
HAHAHAHA</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633384</id>
	<title>Hero of the moment gone....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269602280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's Lawrence Welk and his Fantastic Bubble Machine when you need him?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's Lawrence Welk and his Fantastic Bubble Machine when you need him ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's Lawrence Welk and his Fantastic Bubble Machine when you need him?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633600</id>
	<title>Re:No mention of</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269603480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here you go!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here you go !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here you go!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31636346</id>
	<title>Heat or Cool..</title>
	<author>hhawk</author>
	<datestamp>1269620820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given in the next few 1000 years of human life on earth we might have to heat or cool depending on conditions we should have non polluting options for both..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given in the next few 1000 years of human life on earth we might have to heat or cool depending on conditions we should have non polluting options for both. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given in the next few 1000 years of human life on earth we might have to heat or cool depending on conditions we should have non polluting options for both..</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633568</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269603240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wouldn't the constant pumping raise the concentration of atmospheric gases in the water? I doubt the sea-life will ignore the sudden abundance of oxygen/nitrogen in the water.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would n't the constant pumping raise the concentration of atmospheric gases in the water ?
I doubt the sea-life will ignore the sudden abundance of oxygen/nitrogen in the water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wouldn't the constant pumping raise the concentration of atmospheric gases in the water?
I doubt the sea-life will ignore the sudden abundance of oxygen/nitrogen in the water.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632826</id>
	<title>Re:I still say we just move the Earth</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269599460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't move the earth. Instead reduce energy production of the sun. Besides countering global warming, it also has the effect of increasing the sun's lifetime, because it uses up its fuel more slowly.</p><p>We just have to find the knob where to change the setting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't move the earth .
Instead reduce energy production of the sun .
Besides countering global warming , it also has the effect of increasing the sun 's lifetime , because it uses up its fuel more slowly.We just have to find the knob where to change the setting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't move the earth.
Instead reduce energy production of the sun.
Besides countering global warming, it also has the effect of increasing the sun's lifetime, because it uses up its fuel more slowly.We just have to find the knob where to change the setting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632396</id>
	<title>Crazy</title>
	<author>WrongSizeGlass</author>
	<datestamp>1269597720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about the sea life that relies on that heat?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about the sea life that relies on that heat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about the sea life that relies on that heat?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31632670</id>
	<title>Re:Crazy</title>
	<author>glavenoid</author>
	<datestamp>1269598680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not only heat but the specific spectra of light that reach below the water surface. Seems to me that affecting the surface reflectivity would by necessity change the light that reaches into the sea, and who knows what effect that would have on photosynthetic aquatic plant life.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not only heat but the specific spectra of light that reach below the water surface .
Seems to me that affecting the surface reflectivity would by necessity change the light that reaches into the sea , and who knows what effect that would have on photosynthetic aquatic plant life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not only heat but the specific spectra of light that reach below the water surface.
Seems to me that affecting the surface reflectivity would by necessity change the light that reaches into the sea, and who knows what effect that would have on photosynthetic aquatic plant life.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_207213.31633102</id>
	<title>How about solving the CAUSE??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269600600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like someone banging his head against the wall all the time, and coming up with the &ldquo;solution&rdquo; of taking painkillers... while continuing to run against the wall.</p><p>I am baffled by the amount of elaborate ignorant high-level idiocy it takes, to come up with such thoughts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like someone banging his head against the wall all the time , and coming up with the    solution    of taking painkillers... while continuing to run against the wall.I am baffled by the amount of elaborate ignorant high-level idiocy it takes , to come up with such thoughts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like someone banging his head against the wall all the time, and coming up with the “solution” of taking painkillers... while continuing to run against the wall.I am baffled by the amount of elaborate ignorant high-level idiocy it takes, to come up with such thoughts.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Same problems</title>
	<author>Bozzio</author>
	<datestamp>1269597900000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Don't all these crazy "reflect back light somewhere in the ocean" have the same problem?<br>Whether you're covering the ocean with a white tarp, stretching tin-foil over a large number of floaters, or creating loads of tiny bubbles you're still depriving the ecosystem of light it is most likely dependent on.</p><p>No light, no plankton, no life.</p><p>Am I wrong?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't all these crazy " reflect back light somewhere in the ocean " have the same problem ? Whether you 're covering the ocean with a white tarp , stretching tin-foil over a large number of floaters , or creating loads of tiny bubbles you 're still depriving the ecosystem of light it is most likely dependent on.No light , no plankton , no life.Am I wrong ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't all these crazy "reflect back light somewhere in the ocean" have the same problem?Whether you're covering the ocean with a white tarp, stretching tin-foil over a large number of floaters, or creating loads of tiny bubbles you're still depriving the ecosystem of light it is most likely dependent on.No light, no plankton, no life.Am I wrong?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Cue Don Ho song...</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269600480000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)</p></div></blockquote><p>I never realized what a hip song this is until I started playing the tenor ukulele.</p><p>Seriously, if any of you would love to play music but don't want to spend 20 years becoming a virtuoso, pick up a halfway decent ukulele (spend about $100).  There are dozens of excellent sites and organizations you can find on the web that will teach you how to play.  You can start playing songs the first day.  And it's better than prozac for chasing away the blues.  And the ukulele is a cool instrument, played by musicians as diverse as Kurt Cobain, George Harrison, Elvis Costello, virtuoso guitarist Eric Johnson and many more.</p><p>Plus, chicks dig musicians.  Go to a party, pull out your uke and do just about any tune, from some old Ink Spots to Nine Inch Nails.  I guarantee you'll get laid.</p><p>Regarding the topic at hand, whenever I hear someone propose some mechanical method for reversing the warming of the planet, it makes me really nervous.  Whether by putting gigantic mirrors into orbit or kicking up more dust than Mt St Helens, I always feel like they're not really thinking through all the possible ramifications.  Bubbles in the Sea?  It might be worth thinking about what that would do to ocean life.  It might be perfectly harmless, I don't know.  But please, let's get someone <i>besides physicists</i> involved in the discussion, too. I know some physicists and while they may be great people, they're not known for thinking through all the ramifications of their theories on living creatures.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Tiny bubbles ( tiny bubbles ) I never realized what a hip song this is until I started playing the tenor ukulele.Seriously , if any of you would love to play music but do n't want to spend 20 years becoming a virtuoso , pick up a halfway decent ukulele ( spend about $ 100 ) .
There are dozens of excellent sites and organizations you can find on the web that will teach you how to play .
You can start playing songs the first day .
And it 's better than prozac for chasing away the blues .
And the ukulele is a cool instrument , played by musicians as diverse as Kurt Cobain , George Harrison , Elvis Costello , virtuoso guitarist Eric Johnson and many more.Plus , chicks dig musicians .
Go to a party , pull out your uke and do just about any tune , from some old Ink Spots to Nine Inch Nails .
I guarantee you 'll get laid.Regarding the topic at hand , whenever I hear someone propose some mechanical method for reversing the warming of the planet , it makes me really nervous .
Whether by putting gigantic mirrors into orbit or kicking up more dust than Mt St Helens , I always feel like they 're not really thinking through all the possible ramifications .
Bubbles in the Sea ?
It might be worth thinking about what that would do to ocean life .
It might be perfectly harmless , I do n't know .
But please , let 's get someone besides physicists involved in the discussion , too .
I know some physicists and while they may be great people , they 're not known for thinking through all the ramifications of their theories on living creatures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tiny bubbles (tiny bubbles)I never realized what a hip song this is until I started playing the tenor ukulele.Seriously, if any of you would love to play music but don't want to spend 20 years becoming a virtuoso, pick up a halfway decent ukulele (spend about $100).
There are dozens of excellent sites and organizations you can find on the web that will teach you how to play.
You can start playing songs the first day.
And it's better than prozac for chasing away the blues.
And the ukulele is a cool instrument, played by musicians as diverse as Kurt Cobain, George Harrison, Elvis Costello, virtuoso guitarist Eric Johnson and many more.Plus, chicks dig musicians.
Go to a party, pull out your uke and do just about any tune, from some old Ink Spots to Nine Inch Nails.
I guarantee you'll get laid.Regarding the topic at hand, whenever I hear someone propose some mechanical method for reversing the warming of the planet, it makes me really nervous.
Whether by putting gigantic mirrors into orbit or kicking up more dust than Mt St Helens, I always feel like they're not really thinking through all the possible ramifications.
Bubbles in the Sea?
It might be worth thinking about what that would do to ocean life.
It might be perfectly harmless, I don't know.
But please, let's get someone besides physicists involved in the discussion, too.
I know some physicists and while they may be great people, they're not known for thinking through all the ramifications of their theories on living creatures.
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