<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_26_1818241</id>
	<title>10\% Tax On Custom Software, $100M Tax Cut For Microsoft</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1269630840000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>reifman writes <i>"Last week, the Washington State House of Representatives passed <a href="http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6143&amp;year=2009">a bill</a> which would <a href="http://www.techflash.com/seattle/2010/03/wash\_tax\_plan\_shakes\_small\_software\_makers\_skips\_microsoft.html">impose a 10\% tax on custom software</a> while all but eliminating a $100 million yearly tax obligation that <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/15/1957205/Microsoft-To-Get-100M-Annual-Tax-Cut-and-Amnesty">some say Microsoft is wrongfully avoiding</a> by routing large chunks of business through an office in Nevada. 'I believe we've got an issue of justice and fairness here,' said Rep. Maralyn Chase. 'Most of the custom software purveyors are small businesses. It's a question for me of how we fairly distribute the tax burden.' 'It means that a 5 person team of entrepreneurs building a cool custom software suite, or a group of system integrators, <a href="http://reuvencarlyle36.com/2010/03/24/custom-software-and-turkish-baths-now-thats-an-interesting-tax-policy/">would face a 10\% tax on their services</a> while keeping the exact same project in-house would not be taxed,' wrote Rep. Reuven Carlyle. 'It would be a massive blow to the entrepreneurial community in our state.' The bill won't become law until the House and Senate work out how best to raise another $300 million in taxes. A sales tax increase on consumers is also being considered."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>reifman writes " Last week , the Washington State House of Representatives passed a bill which would impose a 10 \ % tax on custom software while all but eliminating a $ 100 million yearly tax obligation that some say Microsoft is wrongfully avoiding by routing large chunks of business through an office in Nevada .
'I believe we 've got an issue of justice and fairness here, ' said Rep. Maralyn Chase .
'Most of the custom software purveyors are small businesses .
It 's a question for me of how we fairly distribute the tax burden .
' 'It means that a 5 person team of entrepreneurs building a cool custom software suite , or a group of system integrators , would face a 10 \ % tax on their services while keeping the exact same project in-house would not be taxed, ' wrote Rep. Reuven Carlyle .
'It would be a massive blow to the entrepreneurial community in our state .
' The bill wo n't become law until the House and Senate work out how best to raise another $ 300 million in taxes .
A sales tax increase on consumers is also being considered .
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<sentencetext>reifman writes "Last week, the Washington State House of Representatives passed a bill which would impose a 10\% tax on custom software while all but eliminating a $100 million yearly tax obligation that some say Microsoft is wrongfully avoiding by routing large chunks of business through an office in Nevada.
'I believe we've got an issue of justice and fairness here,' said Rep. Maralyn Chase.
'Most of the custom software purveyors are small businesses.
It's a question for me of how we fairly distribute the tax burden.
' 'It means that a 5 person team of entrepreneurs building a cool custom software suite, or a group of system integrators, would face a 10\% tax on their services while keeping the exact same project in-house would not be taxed,' wrote Rep. Reuven Carlyle.
'It would be a massive blow to the entrepreneurial community in our state.
' The bill won't become law until the House and Senate work out how best to raise another $300 million in taxes.
A sales tax increase on consumers is also being considered.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630858</id>
	<title>or they could you know...spend less money?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269634740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first cut should always be to government offices furniture budgets, then look at the "perks" elected officials get and cut those</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first cut should always be to government offices furniture budgets , then look at the " perks " elected officials get and cut those</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first cut should always be to government offices furniture budgets, then look at the "perks" elected officials get and cut those</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31636068</id>
	<title>Re:Bad bill...</title>
	<author>Machtyn</author>
	<datestamp>1269618780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Small businesses are easier to move than large businesses.  Oregon and Idaho aren't <b>that</b> far away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Small businesses are easier to move than large businesses .
Oregon and Idaho are n't that far away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Small businesses are easier to move than large businesses.
Oregon and Idaho aren't that far away.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630804</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31633094</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>samantha</author>
	<datestamp>1269600540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All taxes are legalized thievery.  Quibbling over who the victims are and how much each victim is transgressed against is what allow these things to continue.  Such quibbling sanctions the fundamental wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All taxes are legalized thievery .
Quibbling over who the victims are and how much each victim is transgressed against is what allow these things to continue .
Such quibbling sanctions the fundamental wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All taxes are legalized thievery.
Quibbling over who the victims are and how much each victim is transgressed against is what allow these things to continue.
Such quibbling sanctions the fundamental wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631550</id>
	<title>Re:A different tax proposal</title>
	<author>bb5ch39t</author>
	<datestamp>1269594300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm still wondering about "increasing the sales tax on consumers". You can buy consumers in WA? Isn't that against the law? Or did they mean to say: "increasing the sales tax paid by consumers." ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still wondering about " increasing the sales tax on consumers " .
You can buy consumers in WA ?
Is n't that against the law ?
Or did they mean to say : " increasing the sales tax paid by consumers .
" ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still wondering about "increasing the sales tax on consumers".
You can buy consumers in WA?
Isn't that against the law?
Or did they mean to say: "increasing the sales tax paid by consumers.
" ?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630824</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632244</id>
	<title>Re:Bad bill...</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1269597060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they don't, unlike Microsoft omnibus packages. It's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes.</i> </p><p>Microsoft employs 40,000 people around Puget Sound.</p><p>It owns about 10 million square feet of office space up that way and leases five million more. <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/Inside\_ms.mspx" title="microsoft.com">Facts About Microsoft</a> [microsoft.com] </p><p>The median family income in Redmond itself was $88,000 in 2008 and the median value of a house or condo $496,000. <a href="http://www.city-data.com/city/Redmond-Washington.html" title="city-data.com">Redmond, Washington</a> [city-data.com] </p><p>"All politics is local."</p><p>The guy cutting the grass or tending the plants on the Microsoft campus is another vote for maintaining the status quo - and there are thousands and tens of thousands of others like him the geek in his basement will never be able to reach.</p><p>The only real answer is to market your product through an organization that can reap the same benefits of size, visibility and financial strength as the big boys.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they do n't , unlike Microsoft omnibus packages .
It 's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes .
Microsoft employs 40,000 people around Puget Sound.It owns about 10 million square feet of office space up that way and leases five million more .
Facts About Microsoft [ microsoft.com ] The median family income in Redmond itself was $ 88,000 in 2008 and the median value of a house or condo $ 496,000 .
Redmond , Washington [ city-data.com ] " All politics is local .
" The guy cutting the grass or tending the plants on the Microsoft campus is another vote for maintaining the status quo - and there are thousands and tens of thousands of others like him the geek in his basement will never be able to reach.The only real answer is to market your product through an organization that can reap the same benefits of size , visibility and financial strength as the big boys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they don't, unlike Microsoft omnibus packages.
It's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes.
Microsoft employs 40,000 people around Puget Sound.It owns about 10 million square feet of office space up that way and leases five million more.
Facts About Microsoft [microsoft.com] The median family income in Redmond itself was $88,000 in 2008 and the median value of a house or condo $496,000.
Redmond, Washington [city-data.com] "All politics is local.
"The guy cutting the grass or tending the plants on the Microsoft campus is another vote for maintaining the status quo - and there are thousands and tens of thousands of others like him the geek in his basement will never be able to reach.The only real answer is to market your product through an organization that can reap the same benefits of size, visibility and financial strength as the big boys.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630804</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31641208</id>
	<title>Re:A different tax proposal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269716640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lotto games bring in more money than they cost to run, albeit mostly money from the poor/less-educated demographics. Try again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lotto games bring in more money than they cost to run , albeit mostly money from the poor/less-educated demographics .
Try again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lotto games bring in more money than they cost to run, albeit mostly money from the poor/less-educated demographics.
Try again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631776</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631090</id>
	<title>Re:Tax custom software ? logic ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do not charge sales tax on your labor or on intangible products.</p><p>If you ship software electronically, there should be no tax. If you burn it on a CD and mail it, then tax should be charged.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do not charge sales tax on your labor or on intangible products.If you ship software electronically , there should be no tax .
If you burn it on a CD and mail it , then tax should be charged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do not charge sales tax on your labor or on intangible products.If you ship software electronically, there should be no tax.
If you burn it on a CD and mail it, then tax should be charged.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631668</id>
	<title>FYI - A nitpick/why Stack didn't kill more people</title>
	<author>BenEnglishAtHome</author>
	<datestamp>1269594720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Minor correction: the IRS didn't really wind up with "...an airplane in their offices."</p><p>I haven't been in the building but I have received a report from one of the members of the disaster recovery team onsite.  Per that report, Stack came within 10 feet of killing 20 to 50 people, perhaps many more.</p><p>His plane center-punched a main support column on the exterior of the building, taking it out and causing most of his plane and fuel to spew out at about 90 degrees from the impact.  That's why there was such a wide area (there was fuel and fire almost the entire width of the building on the side he struck) that immediately showed damage and fire.  The plane and extra fuel aboard, for the most part, didn't penetrate the building.</p><p>If he had been 10 feet to the left or right, nearly the entire plane would have plowed into the interior office space.  The death toll would have been huge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Minor correction : the IRS did n't really wind up with " ...an airplane in their offices .
" I have n't been in the building but I have received a report from one of the members of the disaster recovery team onsite .
Per that report , Stack came within 10 feet of killing 20 to 50 people , perhaps many more.His plane center-punched a main support column on the exterior of the building , taking it out and causing most of his plane and fuel to spew out at about 90 degrees from the impact .
That 's why there was such a wide area ( there was fuel and fire almost the entire width of the building on the side he struck ) that immediately showed damage and fire .
The plane and extra fuel aboard , for the most part , did n't penetrate the building.If he had been 10 feet to the left or right , nearly the entire plane would have plowed into the interior office space .
The death toll would have been huge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Minor correction: the IRS didn't really wind up with "...an airplane in their offices.
"I haven't been in the building but I have received a report from one of the members of the disaster recovery team onsite.
Per that report, Stack came within 10 feet of killing 20 to 50 people, perhaps many more.His plane center-punched a main support column on the exterior of the building, taking it out and causing most of his plane and fuel to spew out at about 90 degrees from the impact.
That's why there was such a wide area (there was fuel and fire almost the entire width of the building on the side he struck) that immediately showed damage and fire.
The plane and extra fuel aboard, for the most part, didn't penetrate the building.If he had been 10 feet to the left or right, nearly the entire plane would have plowed into the interior office space.
The death toll would have been huge.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630852</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631518</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1269594120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;(Crazy week in WA., what with our rogue AG and all...)</p><p>I was wondering what you meant so I did a quick Bing search.  "Washington Attorney General Rob McKenna plans to join a multi-state lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the recently signed health care law."</p><p>I don't see this as rogue.  He and other State Attorneys/Governors are merely asking the U.S. Court to enforce the Constitutional Law (specifically parts 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights).  They swore an oath to uphold that law, and now they are following through with it.</p><p>Good for them.</p><p>As for the topic - I already commented below that rather than raises taxes 300 million dollars, politicians should CUT 300 million dollars.  Abracadabra - balanced budget.  I also think they should go after Microsoft to pay their backtaxes, but at the same time I figure MS would just move to another state if they pushed too hard.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; ( Crazy week in WA. , what with our rogue AG and all... ) I was wondering what you meant so I did a quick Bing search .
" Washington Attorney General Rob McKenna plans to join a multi-state lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the recently signed health care law .
" I do n't see this as rogue .
He and other State Attorneys/Governors are merely asking the U.S. Court to enforce the Constitutional Law ( specifically parts 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights ) .
They swore an oath to uphold that law , and now they are following through with it.Good for them.As for the topic - I already commented below that rather than raises taxes 300 million dollars , politicians should CUT 300 million dollars .
Abracadabra - balanced budget .
I also think they should go after Microsoft to pay their backtaxes , but at the same time I figure MS would just move to another state if they pushed too hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;(Crazy week in WA., what with our rogue AG and all...)I was wondering what you meant so I did a quick Bing search.
"Washington Attorney General Rob McKenna plans to join a multi-state lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the recently signed health care law.
"I don't see this as rogue.
He and other State Attorneys/Governors are merely asking the U.S. Court to enforce the Constitutional Law (specifically parts 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights).
They swore an oath to uphold that law, and now they are following through with it.Good for them.As for the topic - I already commented below that rather than raises taxes 300 million dollars, politicians should CUT 300 million dollars.
Abracadabra - balanced budget.
I also think they should go after Microsoft to pay their backtaxes, but at the same time I figure MS would just move to another state if they pushed too hard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630852</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631054</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How exactly does not-progressive get to mean regressive?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How exactly does not-progressive get to mean regressive ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How exactly does not-progressive get to mean regressive?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631250</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>Scootin159</author>
	<datestamp>1269636240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>10\% x $0 = $0</htmltext>
<tokenext>10 \ % x $ 0 = $ 0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>10\% x $0 = $0</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630840</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631030</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At first I thought<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "that doesn't affect me..."</p></div><p>This is a very common attitude that is degrading our lives in all areas in my opinion.  To me, it's like playing chess and looking just one move ahead.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At first I thought ... " that does n't affect me... " This is a very common attitude that is degrading our lives in all areas in my opinion .
To me , it 's like playing chess and looking just one move ahead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At first I thought ... "that doesn't affect me..."This is a very common attitude that is degrading our lives in all areas in my opinion.
To me, it's like playing chess and looking just one move ahead.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630840</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631470</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269594000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody likes a poor thief.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody likes a poor thief .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody likes a poor thief.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630856</id>
	<title>WTF?</title>
	<author>idontgno</author>
	<datestamp>1269634740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is like taxing grocers and restaurants while giving incentives to out-of-state food processors and big-box ultramarkets to bring in more processed pseudo-food.</p><p>What, exactly, is the message the legislators are trying to send here? "Tax local, buy global?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is like taxing grocers and restaurants while giving incentives to out-of-state food processors and big-box ultramarkets to bring in more processed pseudo-food.What , exactly , is the message the legislators are trying to send here ?
" Tax local , buy global ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is like taxing grocers and restaurants while giving incentives to out-of-state food processors and big-box ultramarkets to bring in more processed pseudo-food.What, exactly, is the message the legislators are trying to send here?
"Tax local, buy global?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631282</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>JoeRandomHacker</author>
	<datestamp>1269636360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>At first I thought<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "that doesn't affect me, I run Linux"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application?  Would that be taxed?  It is custom software, after all.</p></div><p>It sounds like that is exactly what they want to do: treat the delivery of the final product as a sale and apply sales tax to it. Open source or not wouldn't matter.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>At first I thought ... " that does n't affect me , I run Linux " ...But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application ?
Would that be taxed ?
It is custom software , after all.It sounds like that is exactly what they want to do : treat the delivery of the final product as a sale and apply sales tax to it .
Open source or not would n't matter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At first I thought ... "that doesn't affect me, I run Linux" ...But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application?
Would that be taxed?
It is custom software, after all.It sounds like that is exactly what they want to do: treat the delivery of the final product as a sale and apply sales tax to it.
Open source or not wouldn't matter.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631026</id>
	<title>how best to raise another $300 million</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1269635400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cut 300 million dollars worth of government workers.</p><p>Done.</p><p>Those who remain would therefore have to work 8 hours a day, instead of wasting 4 hours each day surfing the net (as they did in my government office).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cut 300 million dollars worth of government workers.Done.Those who remain would therefore have to work 8 hours a day , instead of wasting 4 hours each day surfing the net ( as they did in my government office ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cut 300 million dollars worth of government workers.Done.Those who remain would therefore have to work 8 hours a day, instead of wasting 4 hours each day surfing the net (as they did in my government office).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631198</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1269636060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't defend what that man did.  There are more effective ways of protesting this nonsense without resorting to property damage and death.  After all, do you really think that anyone with the legislative power to change things for the better thought to themselves "ya know, he's got a point, maybe we should change the tax laws."  It'll be remembered as an act of terrorism nothing more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't defend what that man did .
There are more effective ways of protesting this nonsense without resorting to property damage and death .
After all , do you really think that anyone with the legislative power to change things for the better thought to themselves " ya know , he 's got a point , maybe we should change the tax laws .
" It 'll be remembered as an act of terrorism nothing more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't defend what that man did.
There are more effective ways of protesting this nonsense without resorting to property damage and death.
After all, do you really think that anyone with the legislative power to change things for the better thought to themselves "ya know, he's got a point, maybe we should change the tax laws.
"  It'll be remembered as an act of terrorism nothing more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631394</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>tweek</author>
	<datestamp>1269636840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the same reason some of us were saying "Maybe we should find out why Al Quaeda attacked us on 9/11" as opposed to yelling about "They hate our freedoms" and "You just want to blame America". If you never get at the root cause of a problem, you'll never truly solve it.</p><p>Bin Laden had some valid reasons for hating the US that has nothing to do with our "way of life" and more with our farcical nation building policy. That doesn't mean he was right or that it was entirely our fault. However, unless we understand ALL the factors, we'll be in the same boat again.</p><p>Similarly while I, in no uncertain terms, despise what Andrew Stack did, his REASONS for doing it were valid at some level. Does it take a broken person to finally resort to his actions? Yes, but what he said about the sheer fucked-upness of our current tax "code" has merit. He was unstable but is it possible that having to deal with the shit that he did with our government pushed him over a tipping point? Absolutely.</p><p>Andrew Stack wasn't some Ted Kazynski/David Koresh whack-job. He was an unstable person who got fucked by his own government. He's not to be lauded or praised for what he did but there's a lesson to be learned in how our current system is broken.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the same reason some of us were saying " Maybe we should find out why Al Quaeda attacked us on 9/11 " as opposed to yelling about " They hate our freedoms " and " You just want to blame America " .
If you never get at the root cause of a problem , you 'll never truly solve it.Bin Laden had some valid reasons for hating the US that has nothing to do with our " way of life " and more with our farcical nation building policy .
That does n't mean he was right or that it was entirely our fault .
However , unless we understand ALL the factors , we 'll be in the same boat again.Similarly while I , in no uncertain terms , despise what Andrew Stack did , his REASONS for doing it were valid at some level .
Does it take a broken person to finally resort to his actions ?
Yes , but what he said about the sheer fucked-upness of our current tax " code " has merit .
He was unstable but is it possible that having to deal with the shit that he did with our government pushed him over a tipping point ?
Absolutely.Andrew Stack was n't some Ted Kazynski/David Koresh whack-job .
He was an unstable person who got fucked by his own government .
He 's not to be lauded or praised for what he did but there 's a lesson to be learned in how our current system is broken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the same reason some of us were saying "Maybe we should find out why Al Quaeda attacked us on 9/11" as opposed to yelling about "They hate our freedoms" and "You just want to blame America".
If you never get at the root cause of a problem, you'll never truly solve it.Bin Laden had some valid reasons for hating the US that has nothing to do with our "way of life" and more with our farcical nation building policy.
That doesn't mean he was right or that it was entirely our fault.
However, unless we understand ALL the factors, we'll be in the same boat again.Similarly while I, in no uncertain terms, despise what Andrew Stack did, his REASONS for doing it were valid at some level.
Does it take a broken person to finally resort to his actions?
Yes, but what he said about the sheer fucked-upness of our current tax "code" has merit.
He was unstable but is it possible that having to deal with the shit that he did with our government pushed him over a tipping point?
Absolutely.Andrew Stack wasn't some Ted Kazynski/David Koresh whack-job.
He was an unstable person who got fucked by his own government.
He's not to be lauded or praised for what he did but there's a lesson to be learned in how our current system is broken.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630980</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31639300</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1269703800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cut 300 million dollars worth of government workers.Done.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cut 300 million dollars worth of government workers.Done .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cut 300 million dollars worth of government workers.Done.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630906</id>
	<title>Uhmm...</title>
	<author>ZDRuX</author>
	<datestamp>1269634920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can someone define "custom software" first?! Isn't any arrangement of 1s and 0s made to someone's specifications considered "custom"?! Maybe I'm just dull and naive.<br> <br>Or do they mean software that is pumped out by the thousands, like MS Windows.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone define " custom software " first ? !
Is n't any arrangement of 1s and 0s made to someone 's specifications considered " custom " ? !
Maybe I 'm just dull and naive .
Or do they mean software that is pumped out by the thousands , like MS Windows .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone define "custom software" first?!
Isn't any arrangement of 1s and 0s made to someone's specifications considered "custom"?!
Maybe I'm just dull and naive.
Or do they mean software that is pumped out by the thousands, like MS Windows.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31636794</id>
	<title>Re:How about some honesty in taxation?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269624840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, as a washington state work and a resident, I can tell you this wouldn't be politically feasible.  Certainly that would be the most obvious way to solve this, but you can't imagine the pitch of the tax hating whiners out there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , as a washington state work and a resident , I can tell you this would n't be politically feasible .
Certainly that would be the most obvious way to solve this , but you ca n't imagine the pitch of the tax hating whiners out there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, as a washington state work and a resident, I can tell you this wouldn't be politically feasible.
Certainly that would be the most obvious way to solve this, but you can't imagine the pitch of the tax hating whiners out there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630974</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632458</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>Anachragnome</author>
	<datestamp>1269597960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jeez.</p><p>The one time I TRY to troll a thread, I get modded interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jeez.The one time I TRY to troll a thread , I get modded interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jeez.The one time I TRY to troll a thread, I get modded interesting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630852</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630942</id>
	<title>The only fair corporate tax rate is 0\%.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or less, because the government assets (land, sea, military hardware, etc) need to be liquidated and any resulting profits proportionately returned to the tax-victims.</p><p>All forms of government are theft.</p><p>(Signed: Alex Libman's sock-puppet.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or less , because the government assets ( land , sea , military hardware , etc ) need to be liquidated and any resulting profits proportionately returned to the tax-victims.All forms of government are theft .
( Signed : Alex Libman 's sock-puppet .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or less, because the government assets (land, sea, military hardware, etc) need to be liquidated and any resulting profits proportionately returned to the tax-victims.All forms of government are theft.
(Signed: Alex Libman's sock-puppet.
)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631790</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>tsotha</author>
	<datestamp>1269595260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the same reason governments have a hard time dealing with offshoring - companies will leave if you make things too uncomfortable.  Microsoft provides far more benefit to the state of Washington and its people than Washington provides to Microsoft.  In the end this is just a recognition of that fact.
</p><p>You can bleed companies (like GM) with large fixed facilities, but it's pretty easy to move software development.  If not to Oregon or California, then to India or the Philippines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the same reason governments have a hard time dealing with offshoring - companies will leave if you make things too uncomfortable .
Microsoft provides far more benefit to the state of Washington and its people than Washington provides to Microsoft .
In the end this is just a recognition of that fact .
You can bleed companies ( like GM ) with large fixed facilities , but it 's pretty easy to move software development .
If not to Oregon or California , then to India or the Philippines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the same reason governments have a hard time dealing with offshoring - companies will leave if you make things too uncomfortable.
Microsoft provides far more benefit to the state of Washington and its people than Washington provides to Microsoft.
In the end this is just a recognition of that fact.
You can bleed companies (like GM) with large fixed facilities, but it's pretty easy to move software development.
If not to Oregon or California, then to India or the Philippines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630850</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631246</id>
	<title>Re:lol wut</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1269636240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's the point.  It's effectively a tax break for off-the-shelf software makers (10\% of the industry overall, but some very big individual players).  Fortunately, it's only the State of Washington giving a tax break to a large domestic industry, rather than a US-wide measure.  All it will do is shift any remaining innovation out of the state.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's the point .
It 's effectively a tax break for off-the-shelf software makers ( 10 \ % of the industry overall , but some very big individual players ) .
Fortunately , it 's only the State of Washington giving a tax break to a large domestic industry , rather than a US-wide measure .
All it will do is shift any remaining innovation out of the state .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's the point.
It's effectively a tax break for off-the-shelf software makers (10\% of the industry overall, but some very big individual players).
Fortunately, it's only the State of Washington giving a tax break to a large domestic industry, rather than a US-wide measure.
All it will do is shift any remaining innovation out of the state.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630878</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630850</id>
	<title>Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269634740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The sales tax is a very regressive tax. Why should ordinary people of Washington take the hit disproportionately so that Microsoft can be let off the hook for what is basically equivalent to offshoring?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The sales tax is a very regressive tax .
Why should ordinary people of Washington take the hit disproportionately so that Microsoft can be let off the hook for what is basically equivalent to offshoring ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sales tax is a very regressive tax.
Why should ordinary people of Washington take the hit disproportionately so that Microsoft can be let off the hook for what is basically equivalent to offshoring?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631086</id>
	<title>I dunno if I believe my own spin...</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1269635700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is clearly good for the large number of people who are gainfully employed by Microsoft, and those who invest in Microsoft, the total of which likely vastly outnumbers the individuals who sell simple custom one-off programming services in Washington state.  It's a case of the good of the many outweighing the good of the few.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is clearly good for the large number of people who are gainfully employed by Microsoft , and those who invest in Microsoft , the total of which likely vastly outnumbers the individuals who sell simple custom one-off programming services in Washington state .
It 's a case of the good of the many outweighing the good of the few .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is clearly good for the large number of people who are gainfully employed by Microsoft, and those who invest in Microsoft, the total of which likely vastly outnumbers the individuals who sell simple custom one-off programming services in Washington state.
It's a case of the good of the many outweighing the good of the few.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630804</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630932</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application? Would that be taxed? It is custom software, after all.</i></p><p>Yep, you'd pay 10\% tax on the 0 dollars you earn selling your LAMP mp3 solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application ?
Would that be taxed ?
It is custom software , after all.Yep , you 'd pay 10 \ % tax on the 0 dollars you earn selling your LAMP mp3 solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application?
Would that be taxed?
It is custom software, after all.Yep, you'd pay 10\% tax on the 0 dollars you earn selling your LAMP mp3 solution.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630840</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630878</id>
	<title>lol wut</title>
	<author>Jeian</author>
	<datestamp>1269634800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have no idea what the Legislature means by "custom software" (and didn't see a definition in the article) but I'm guessing that it would be software written for a specific niche or client - in which case, Microsoft would really be the *least* likely to fall under that definition. Word, Excel, etc. are hardly "custom applications."</p><p>And if they are, well, that means just about all the software ever written would be "custom software."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have no idea what the Legislature means by " custom software " ( and did n't see a definition in the article ) but I 'm guessing that it would be software written for a specific niche or client - in which case , Microsoft would really be the * least * likely to fall under that definition .
Word , Excel , etc .
are hardly " custom applications .
" And if they are , well , that means just about all the software ever written would be " custom software .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have no idea what the Legislature means by "custom software" (and didn't see a definition in the article) but I'm guessing that it would be software written for a specific niche or client - in which case, Microsoft would really be the *least* likely to fall under that definition.
Word, Excel, etc.
are hardly "custom applications.
"And if they are, well, that means just about all the software ever written would be "custom software.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631236</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>wizardforce</author>
	<datestamp>1269636180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Obviously if the man said 2+2=4 he must automatically be wrong...  The man was crazy but the idea that our government and tax law as a whole have also gone batshit isn't that crazy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Obviously if the man said 2 + 2 = 4 he must automatically be wrong... The man was crazy but the idea that our government and tax law as a whole have also gone batshit is n't that crazy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Obviously if the man said 2+2=4 he must automatically be wrong...  The man was crazy but the idea that our government and tax law as a whole have also gone batshit isn't that crazy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630980</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631412</id>
	<title>Re:I dunno if I believe my own spin...</title>
	<author>Maxo-Texas</author>
	<datestamp>1269636960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And this will be even more true next year as many in the custom software field leave the state and/or stop doing business there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this will be even more true next year as many in the custom software field leave the state and/or stop doing business there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this will be even more true next year as many in the custom software field leave the state and/or stop doing business there.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631086</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631024</id>
	<title>Move</title>
	<author>ScientiaPotentiaEst</author>
	<datestamp>1269635400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Fortunately my little corporation isn't in Washington.  I know first hand that there are many states more conducive to small business.  Unless there is some specific reason for remaining there, it isn't be too hard to move.  10\% is no small increase, so it's definitely worth looking into a change of locale.
</p><p>
I don't suppose anyone in the WA government considered reducing expenditures enough to make up the difference.  Too radical a concept I guess.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fortunately my little corporation is n't in Washington .
I know first hand that there are many states more conducive to small business .
Unless there is some specific reason for remaining there , it is n't be too hard to move .
10 \ % is no small increase , so it 's definitely worth looking into a change of locale .
I do n't suppose anyone in the WA government considered reducing expenditures enough to make up the difference .
Too radical a concept I guess .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Fortunately my little corporation isn't in Washington.
I know first hand that there are many states more conducive to small business.
Unless there is some specific reason for remaining there, it isn't be too hard to move.
10\% is no small increase, so it's definitely worth looking into a change of locale.
I don't suppose anyone in the WA government considered reducing expenditures enough to make up the difference.
Too radical a concept I guess.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631038</id>
	<title>This just in...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Washington state representative suffers from BSOD, requires reboot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Washington state representative suffers from BSOD , requires reboot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Washington state representative suffers from BSOD, requires reboot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631014</id>
	<title>The End is Near</title>
	<author>xdor</author>
	<datestamp>1269635400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I for one salute our freely elected overlords!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I for one salute our freely elected overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I for one salute our freely elected overlords!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631500</id>
	<title>Re:I dunno if I believe my own spin...</title>
	<author>The End Of Days</author>
	<datestamp>1269594060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flamebait, really?  you anti-Microsoftites can't handle an argument based on facts that your zealotry can't dismantle?</p><p>I know you're a bunch of bitches by nature, since whining on the internet makes up the majority of your behavior, but do you have to go and prove it?</p><p>There's your flamebait.  Mod me down all you like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flamebait , really ?
you anti-Microsoftites ca n't handle an argument based on facts that your zealotry ca n't dismantle ? I know you 're a bunch of bitches by nature , since whining on the internet makes up the majority of your behavior , but do you have to go and prove it ? There 's your flamebait .
Mod me down all you like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flamebait, really?
you anti-Microsoftites can't handle an argument based on facts that your zealotry can't dismantle?I know you're a bunch of bitches by nature, since whining on the internet makes up the majority of your behavior, but do you have to go and prove it?There's your flamebait.
Mod me down all you like.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631086</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631776</id>
	<title>Re:A different tax proposal</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1269595200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey I know, Washington!</p><p>Maybe you could stop running giant ad campaigns (bus, billboard, web...) telling me to get my swine flu shot. How much did that ad campaign cost? And while we're at it, why don't you stop making new lotto games and spending tons of money advertising them as well? And how much do we spend putting giant "click it or ticket" billboards along every highway? I think it's safe to assume people know that there's a seatbelt law at this point.</p><p>Christ.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey I know , Washington ! Maybe you could stop running giant ad campaigns ( bus , billboard , web... ) telling me to get my swine flu shot .
How much did that ad campaign cost ?
And while we 're at it , why do n't you stop making new lotto games and spending tons of money advertising them as well ?
And how much do we spend putting giant " click it or ticket " billboards along every highway ?
I think it 's safe to assume people know that there 's a seatbelt law at this point.Christ .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey I know, Washington!Maybe you could stop running giant ad campaigns (bus, billboard, web...) telling me to get my swine flu shot.
How much did that ad campaign cost?
And while we're at it, why don't you stop making new lotto games and spending tons of money advertising them as well?
And how much do we spend putting giant "click it or ticket" billboards along every highway?
I think it's safe to assume people know that there's a seatbelt law at this point.Christ.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630824</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631126</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1269635820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you're going to write to your representative, you might want to mention that the average government worker makes 45\% more than their equivalent in the private sector (30\% more if you only include salary).  I don't know the precise situation in Washington, but in most states with deficits, if the workers pay was cut to the same as they would in the private sector, the deficit would be more than closed.<br> <br>
Whether we want to cut the pay of public employees or not is a value judgement, and it is really up to us (or our representatives) to decide if we are willing to continue paying them with higher taxes, but it is important to be aware of what is happening.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're going to write to your representative , you might want to mention that the average government worker makes 45 \ % more than their equivalent in the private sector ( 30 \ % more if you only include salary ) .
I do n't know the precise situation in Washington , but in most states with deficits , if the workers pay was cut to the same as they would in the private sector , the deficit would be more than closed .
Whether we want to cut the pay of public employees or not is a value judgement , and it is really up to us ( or our representatives ) to decide if we are willing to continue paying them with higher taxes , but it is important to be aware of what is happening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're going to write to your representative, you might want to mention that the average government worker makes 45\% more than their equivalent in the private sector (30\% more if you only include salary).
I don't know the precise situation in Washington, but in most states with deficits, if the workers pay was cut to the same as they would in the private sector, the deficit would be more than closed.
Whether we want to cut the pay of public employees or not is a value judgement, and it is really up to us (or our representatives) to decide if we are willing to continue paying them with higher taxes, but it is important to be aware of what is happening.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31633390</id>
	<title>Re:This just in...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269602280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reboot? Nah - how about we replace the affected units with models that have more stable code?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reboot ?
Nah - how about we replace the affected units with models that have more stable code ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reboot?
Nah - how about we replace the affected units with models that have more stable code?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31638168</id>
	<title>Re:A different tax proposal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269689460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Add to that "Litter and it will hurt"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P<br>Being a foreigner here I have to say I found this rather amusing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Add to that " Litter and it will hurt " : PBeing a foreigner here I have to say I found this rather amusing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Add to that "Litter and it will hurt" :PBeing a foreigner here I have to say I found this rather amusing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630852</id>
	<title>Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>Anachragnome</author>
	<datestamp>1269634740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Andrew Stack would be upset, again.</p><p>This is exactly the shit that drove the man to his wits end, leaving the IRS with an airplane in their offices.</p><p>Time to write my representative, AGAIN. (Crazy week in WA., what with our rogue AG and all...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andrew Stack would be upset , again.This is exactly the shit that drove the man to his wits end , leaving the IRS with an airplane in their offices.Time to write my representative , AGAIN .
( Crazy week in WA. , what with our rogue AG and all... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andrew Stack would be upset, again.This is exactly the shit that drove the man to his wits end, leaving the IRS with an airplane in their offices.Time to write my representative, AGAIN.
(Crazy week in WA., what with our rogue AG and all...)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631022</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rouge AG? I'm not sure but it sounds our Attorney General is the only sane person in western WA. Good to know his efforts to stop the federal government from screwing it's citizens will be payed for by the state government screwing them.</p><p>This post payed for in-part by your Washington tax dollars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rouge AG ?
I 'm not sure but it sounds our Attorney General is the only sane person in western WA .
Good to know his efforts to stop the federal government from screwing it 's citizens will be payed for by the state government screwing them.This post payed for in-part by your Washington tax dollars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rouge AG?
I'm not sure but it sounds our Attorney General is the only sane person in western WA.
Good to know his efforts to stop the federal government from screwing it's citizens will be payed for by the state government screwing them.This post payed for in-part by your Washington tax dollars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632086</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269596460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what software isn't custom?  Or what is custom?  Is it custom if I only make it for one customer, but not if I make it for a market segment?  Would we all just sell software to more than one person to make it not custom?  Otherwise, wouldn't all software be custom?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what software is n't custom ?
Or what is custom ?
Is it custom if I only make it for one customer , but not if I make it for a market segment ?
Would we all just sell software to more than one person to make it not custom ?
Otherwise , would n't all software be custom ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what software isn't custom?
Or what is custom?
Is it custom if I only make it for one customer, but not if I make it for a market segment?
Would we all just sell software to more than one person to make it not custom?
Otherwise, wouldn't all software be custom?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31637154</id>
	<title>Re:</title>
	<author>clint999</author>
	<datestamp>1269628200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><strong>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they don't, unlike Microsoft omnibus packages. It's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes.</strong></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they do n't , unlike Microsoft omnibus packages .
It 's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they don't, unlike Microsoft omnibus packages.
It's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631522</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>jim\_v2000</author>
	<datestamp>1269594120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What does the sales tax have to do with Microsoft?  OH I see, you're just riding the negative wave and steering it toward a company that you don't like.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What does the sales tax have to do with Microsoft ?
OH I see , you 're just riding the negative wave and steering it toward a company that you do n't like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does the sales tax have to do with Microsoft?
OH I see, you're just riding the negative wave and steering it toward a company that you don't like.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632016</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1269596160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Normally you hire custom software developers to write software that solves a particular itch.  If you can fine someone who will wast their time writing free software that will only solve your problem go ahead, but software developers need to eat too. So will probably find it difficult to find someone who wants to write a program that solves your particular issue.</p><p>In FOSS Software there is still a payment.  Ego and Popularity amongst peers.    If you write FOSS to solve a unique problem your software will not be popular or get any care. So you will work long and hard and get nothing except for the satisfaction that a company is making a lot of money off your code that you gave away for free (it is like rubbing salt into a wound).</p><p>Sure there are a bunch of FOSS programs that do solve these problems but they are usually written by the person who needs the itch to be scratch and wants to share it to the community.  But if you don't want to code it yourself good luck on getting some one else to do it for free.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Normally you hire custom software developers to write software that solves a particular itch .
If you can fine someone who will wast their time writing free software that will only solve your problem go ahead , but software developers need to eat too .
So will probably find it difficult to find someone who wants to write a program that solves your particular issue.In FOSS Software there is still a payment .
Ego and Popularity amongst peers .
If you write FOSS to solve a unique problem your software will not be popular or get any care .
So you will work long and hard and get nothing except for the satisfaction that a company is making a lot of money off your code that you gave away for free ( it is like rubbing salt into a wound ) .Sure there are a bunch of FOSS programs that do solve these problems but they are usually written by the person who needs the itch to be scratch and wants to share it to the community .
But if you do n't want to code it yourself good luck on getting some one else to do it for free .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Normally you hire custom software developers to write software that solves a particular itch.
If you can fine someone who will wast their time writing free software that will only solve your problem go ahead, but software developers need to eat too.
So will probably find it difficult to find someone who wants to write a program that solves your particular issue.In FOSS Software there is still a payment.
Ego and Popularity amongst peers.
If you write FOSS to solve a unique problem your software will not be popular or get any care.
So you will work long and hard and get nothing except for the satisfaction that a company is making a lot of money off your code that you gave away for free (it is like rubbing salt into a wound).Sure there are a bunch of FOSS programs that do solve these problems but they are usually written by the person who needs the itch to be scratch and wants to share it to the community.
But if you don't want to code it yourself good luck on getting some one else to do it for free.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630804</id>
	<title>Bad bill...</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1269634500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they don't, unlike Microsoft omnibus packages. It's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they do n't , unlike Microsoft omnibus packages .
It 's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is clearly is bad for the individual geek who makes their living selling simple custom programs that do only what the user wants/needs and nothing that they don't, unlike Microsoft omnibus packages.
It's a case of government by large corporation over the individual if this passes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631574</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>westyvw</author>
	<datestamp>1269594420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>False. Most unions base a state workers wage (plus benefits) at a percentage of the private sector equivalent. For example, most interns at Microsoft make more then a 3 or 4 year IT worker at a state job.</p><p>Perhaps your argument should be more like this: if there is a 20\% reduction in jobs in the private sector, then a similar reduction in public services (positions) must follow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>False .
Most unions base a state workers wage ( plus benefits ) at a percentage of the private sector equivalent .
For example , most interns at Microsoft make more then a 3 or 4 year IT worker at a state job.Perhaps your argument should be more like this : if there is a 20 \ % reduction in jobs in the private sector , then a similar reduction in public services ( positions ) must follow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>False.
Most unions base a state workers wage (plus benefits) at a percentage of the private sector equivalent.
For example, most interns at Microsoft make more then a 3 or 4 year IT worker at a state job.Perhaps your argument should be more like this: if there is a 20\% reduction in jobs in the private sector, then a similar reduction in public services (positions) must follow.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31636862</id>
	<title>This posting is misleading</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269625320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This posting is misleading.  The custom software 10\% is a sales tax on services, which is one direction the state was looking to go.  The other was to extend the Business and Operating Tax (a 4\% tax that businesses pay on sales) to entities that do business in our state.  While it is true that Microsoft has a free ride, it would be risky to clamp down on them as they might just move away.  10\% is approximately the sales tax in King County.  In Thurston County (where the State capital is located) the sales tax is 8.7\%.</p><p>It sounds to me like the poster is worried about his business declining and so he found a scapegoat to make his anger slashdot worthy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This posting is misleading .
The custom software 10 \ % is a sales tax on services , which is one direction the state was looking to go .
The other was to extend the Business and Operating Tax ( a 4 \ % tax that businesses pay on sales ) to entities that do business in our state .
While it is true that Microsoft has a free ride , it would be risky to clamp down on them as they might just move away .
10 \ % is approximately the sales tax in King County .
In Thurston County ( where the State capital is located ) the sales tax is 8.7 \ % .It sounds to me like the poster is worried about his business declining and so he found a scapegoat to make his anger slashdot worthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This posting is misleading.
The custom software 10\% is a sales tax on services, which is one direction the state was looking to go.
The other was to extend the Business and Operating Tax (a 4\% tax that businesses pay on sales) to entities that do business in our state.
While it is true that Microsoft has a free ride, it would be risky to clamp down on them as they might just move away.
10\% is approximately the sales tax in King County.
In Thurston County (where the State capital is located) the sales tax is 8.7\%.It sounds to me like the poster is worried about his business declining and so he found a scapegoat to make his anger slashdot worthy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630860</id>
	<title>Tax custom software ? logic ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269634740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>arent you already taxing the income that is generated as a result of that software ? and applying any kind of sales tax to the software, if there is a sales tax in the state ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>arent you already taxing the income that is generated as a result of that software ?
and applying any kind of sales tax to the software , if there is a sales tax in the state ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>arent you already taxing the income that is generated as a result of that software ?
and applying any kind of sales tax to the software, if there is a sales tax in the state ?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631080</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>nomadic</author>
	<datestamp>1269635640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Andrew Stack would be upset, again.</i>
<br>
<br>
So the sociopathic murderer wouldn't like this?  So you're saying it's a good thing?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Andrew Stack would be upset , again .
So the sociopathic murderer would n't like this ?
So you 're saying it 's a good thing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andrew Stack would be upset, again.
So the sociopathic murderer wouldn't like this?
So you're saying it's a good thing?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31636704</id>
	<title>Ross Hunter SUCKS</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269624120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Vote this doucher out. Perfect example of the lefty elitists he represents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Vote this doucher out .
Perfect example of the lefty elitists he represents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vote this doucher out.
Perfect example of the lefty elitists he represents.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31636566</id>
	<title>Tax Microsoft bugs</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1269622920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft's bugs have cost society plenty. Even at a penny per big they can raise 300 million easy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft 's bugs have cost society plenty .
Even at a penny per big they can raise 300 million easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft's bugs have cost society plenty.
Even at a penny per big they can raise 300 million easy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31634482</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269608880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Andrew Stack is a conservative domestic terrorist.</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010\_Austin\_plane\_crash#Suicide\_note" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010\_Austin\_plane\_crash#Suicide\_note</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p><i>The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.</i></p><p><i>The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.<br></i> </p><p>Seems like he favoured communism over capitalism from his suicide note. Hardly conservative. That fact that he expressed anti-government and anti-tax views could be because he didn't like the government because it wasn't left enough for him. More likely he didn't have a coherent political view and was just crazy.</p><p>Seems like you're trying to win people over to your side who are too stupid to fact check. Of course, that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not one of the people who was too stupid to fact check.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Andrew Stack is a conservative domestic terrorist .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010 \ _Austin \ _plane \ _crash # Suicide \ _note [ wikipedia.org ] The communist creed : From each according to his ability , to each according to his need.The capitalist creed : From each according to his gullibility , to each according to his greed .
Seems like he favoured communism over capitalism from his suicide note .
Hardly conservative .
That fact that he expressed anti-government and anti-tax views could be because he did n't like the government because it was n't left enough for him .
More likely he did n't have a coherent political view and was just crazy.Seems like you 're trying to win people over to your side who are too stupid to fact check .
Of course , that 's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you 're not one of the people who was too stupid to fact check .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andrew Stack is a conservative domestic terrorist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010\_Austin\_plane\_crash#Suicide\_note [wikipedia.org]The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
Seems like he favoured communism over capitalism from his suicide note.
Hardly conservative.
That fact that he expressed anti-government and anti-tax views could be because he didn't like the government because it wasn't left enough for him.
More likely he didn't have a coherent political view and was just crazy.Seems like you're trying to win people over to your side who are too stupid to fact check.
Of course, that's giving you the benefit of the doubt that you're not one of the people who was too stupid to fact check.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630840</id>
	<title>FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269634680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At first I thought<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... "that doesn't affect me, I run Linux"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application?  Would that be taxed?  It is custom software, after all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At first I thought ... " that does n't affect me , I run Linux " ...But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application ?
Would that be taxed ?
It is custom software , after all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At first I thought ... "that doesn't affect me, I run Linux" ...But what about paying a developer to work on a FOSS application?
Would that be taxed?
It is custom software, after all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631034</id>
	<title>Soak the Rich Big Businesses, Screw the Little Guy</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1269635460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any regulation that is invariably put in place to "Soak the Rich Big Businesses" will inevitably turn around and screw the medium to small business.   Why is this?</p><p>Example:</p><p>Microsoft is big enough to hire as many tax lawyers and other attorneys as needed to deal with any sort of regulation that the federal government tries to impose ont hem.</p><p>Meanwhile Bob T. McProgrammer is writing a piece of custom software and he gets screwed because he had no idea he had to fill out forms 1342-GOV and 1040-SCREW-U Schedule G when he sold it to someone.   The IRS arrives and takes everything that Bob T Programmer ever made and he ends up disillusioned and has to work for Microsoft for 1/2 as much money he was making as an independant programmer.</p><p>The MS Lawyers squeal with glee as more regulations from D.C. will keep them employed at MS for years and decades to come and they saved money not having to buy up Bob T. McProgrammer's company and instead can hire him for a song and tell him to write the same sort of software....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any regulation that is invariably put in place to " Soak the Rich Big Businesses " will inevitably turn around and screw the medium to small business .
Why is this ? Example : Microsoft is big enough to hire as many tax lawyers and other attorneys as needed to deal with any sort of regulation that the federal government tries to impose ont hem.Meanwhile Bob T. McProgrammer is writing a piece of custom software and he gets screwed because he had no idea he had to fill out forms 1342-GOV and 1040-SCREW-U Schedule G when he sold it to someone .
The IRS arrives and takes everything that Bob T Programmer ever made and he ends up disillusioned and has to work for Microsoft for 1/2 as much money he was making as an independant programmer.The MS Lawyers squeal with glee as more regulations from D.C. will keep them employed at MS for years and decades to come and they saved money not having to buy up Bob T. McProgrammer 's company and instead can hire him for a song and tell him to write the same sort of software... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any regulation that is invariably put in place to "Soak the Rich Big Businesses" will inevitably turn around and screw the medium to small business.
Why is this?Example:Microsoft is big enough to hire as many tax lawyers and other attorneys as needed to deal with any sort of regulation that the federal government tries to impose ont hem.Meanwhile Bob T. McProgrammer is writing a piece of custom software and he gets screwed because he had no idea he had to fill out forms 1342-GOV and 1040-SCREW-U Schedule G when he sold it to someone.
The IRS arrives and takes everything that Bob T Programmer ever made and he ends up disillusioned and has to work for Microsoft for 1/2 as much money he was making as an independant programmer.The MS Lawyers squeal with glee as more regulations from D.C. will keep them employed at MS for years and decades to come and they saved money not having to buy up Bob T. McProgrammer's company and instead can hire him for a song and tell him to write the same sort of software....</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269594840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My Economics professors would say the sales tax is regressive, but I don't agree.  In the examples he showed, the lower income family spent a higher percentage of their income than the higher income families.  All you'd have to do to make it non-regressive is to cut spending when income is decreased.  If your family is making $50,000 a year, and you spend 25\% of that on taxable items, you'd spend less money on tax as a percentage of your income than a family that makes $250,000, and spend 50\% of it on taxable items.</p><p>And I don't even know why they use the tax paid in $ as a percentage of total income as a regressiveness indicator.  If you spend $3,000, the tax you pay on it is the same regardless of your income.  If you spend 90\% of your income on taxable items, it's obvious that the price of the sales tax is going to consume a higher percentage of your income than someone who only spends 20\%.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My Economics professors would say the sales tax is regressive , but I do n't agree .
In the examples he showed , the lower income family spent a higher percentage of their income than the higher income families .
All you 'd have to do to make it non-regressive is to cut spending when income is decreased .
If your family is making $ 50,000 a year , and you spend 25 \ % of that on taxable items , you 'd spend less money on tax as a percentage of your income than a family that makes $ 250,000 , and spend 50 \ % of it on taxable items.And I do n't even know why they use the tax paid in $ as a percentage of total income as a regressiveness indicator .
If you spend $ 3,000 , the tax you pay on it is the same regardless of your income .
If you spend 90 \ % of your income on taxable items , it 's obvious that the price of the sales tax is going to consume a higher percentage of your income than someone who only spends 20 \ % .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My Economics professors would say the sales tax is regressive, but I don't agree.
In the examples he showed, the lower income family spent a higher percentage of their income than the higher income families.
All you'd have to do to make it non-regressive is to cut spending when income is decreased.
If your family is making $50,000 a year, and you spend 25\% of that on taxable items, you'd spend less money on tax as a percentage of your income than a family that makes $250,000, and spend 50\% of it on taxable items.And I don't even know why they use the tax paid in $ as a percentage of total income as a regressiveness indicator.
If you spend $3,000, the tax you pay on it is the same regardless of your income.
If you spend 90\% of your income on taxable items, it's obvious that the price of the sales tax is going to consume a higher percentage of your income than someone who only spends 20\%.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31634864</id>
	<title>Re:How about some honesty in taxation?</title>
	<author>steveha</author>
	<datestamp>1269611460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Or, they could be honest and raise the money though an old-fashioned income tax, or sales tax.</i></p><p>Washington state doesn't have a state income tax.  As a side-effect of this, every other thing you can imagine is taxed as highly as the state government thinks they can manage.  (Except car licensing... that used to be hundreds of dollars per year, but an initiative slashed that to a flat $30 per year.  But that was years ago... I just re-licensed a car and paid about $120 so I guess it is ratcheting back up to where it was.)</p><p>In Washington, a state income tax is very nearly a "political third rail" issue.  You can't get elected governor here without piously promising that an income tax would be your absolute last emergency resort.  Our current governor and the one before here both started talking about a state income tax shortly after being elected, though.</p><p>This month, our state legislature seriously debated a <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011260898\_taxes05m.html" title="nwsource.com">proposal</a> [nwsource.com] to enact a state income tax, only on "the rich", and with a sales-tax reduction as a bribe to make the rest of the voters happy.  This was not a popular idea; I think most people view this as the camel's nose entering the tent.  (Certainly that's how I view it... once we have the income tax, every year the definition of who is "rich" will be revised downward.)  That idea is dead for now.</p><p>As for sales tax:</p><p>The sales tax is already 9.5\% in the Seattle area; of that, 6.5\% goes to the state.  (Numbers from <a href="http://dor.wa.gov/Content/GetAFormOrPublication/FormBySubject/forms\_LSUAlpha.aspx" title="wa.gov">here</a> [wa.gov].)  I suspect that nobody quite dares yet to hit the threshold of 10\% sales tax or higher.  Double digits?  That might get some headlines.</p><p>But surprise surprise, the state legislature is seriously debating a <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011453681\_apwaxgrspecialsession2ndldwritethru.html" title="nwsource.com">proposal</a> [nwsource.com] to add 0.2\% to the state sales tax rate, at least temporarily.  This would bring sales tax new me to 9.7\%.</p><p><i>But I'm sure they'd rather hide the tax burden from the people who are ultimately paying it. Gotta love the government.</i></p><p>They'd certainly rather find creative ways to hike taxes than ever to cut spending.  It's a down economy, everyone is hurting, tax revenues have fallen, but they can't possibly cut spending.  I wonder how long this can last.</p><p>steveha</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , they could be honest and raise the money though an old-fashioned income tax , or sales tax.Washington state does n't have a state income tax .
As a side-effect of this , every other thing you can imagine is taxed as highly as the state government thinks they can manage .
( Except car licensing... that used to be hundreds of dollars per year , but an initiative slashed that to a flat $ 30 per year .
But that was years ago... I just re-licensed a car and paid about $ 120 so I guess it is ratcheting back up to where it was .
) In Washington , a state income tax is very nearly a " political third rail " issue .
You ca n't get elected governor here without piously promising that an income tax would be your absolute last emergency resort .
Our current governor and the one before here both started talking about a state income tax shortly after being elected , though.This month , our state legislature seriously debated a proposal [ nwsource.com ] to enact a state income tax , only on " the rich " , and with a sales-tax reduction as a bribe to make the rest of the voters happy .
This was not a popular idea ; I think most people view this as the camel 's nose entering the tent .
( Certainly that 's how I view it... once we have the income tax , every year the definition of who is " rich " will be revised downward .
) That idea is dead for now.As for sales tax : The sales tax is already 9.5 \ % in the Seattle area ; of that , 6.5 \ % goes to the state .
( Numbers from here [ wa.gov ] .
) I suspect that nobody quite dares yet to hit the threshold of 10 \ % sales tax or higher .
Double digits ?
That might get some headlines.But surprise surprise , the state legislature is seriously debating a proposal [ nwsource.com ] to add 0.2 \ % to the state sales tax rate , at least temporarily .
This would bring sales tax new me to 9.7 \ % .But I 'm sure they 'd rather hide the tax burden from the people who are ultimately paying it .
Got ta love the government.They 'd certainly rather find creative ways to hike taxes than ever to cut spending .
It 's a down economy , everyone is hurting , tax revenues have fallen , but they ca n't possibly cut spending .
I wonder how long this can last.steveha</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, they could be honest and raise the money though an old-fashioned income tax, or sales tax.Washington state doesn't have a state income tax.
As a side-effect of this, every other thing you can imagine is taxed as highly as the state government thinks they can manage.
(Except car licensing... that used to be hundreds of dollars per year, but an initiative slashed that to a flat $30 per year.
But that was years ago... I just re-licensed a car and paid about $120 so I guess it is ratcheting back up to where it was.
)In Washington, a state income tax is very nearly a "political third rail" issue.
You can't get elected governor here without piously promising that an income tax would be your absolute last emergency resort.
Our current governor and the one before here both started talking about a state income tax shortly after being elected, though.This month, our state legislature seriously debated a proposal [nwsource.com] to enact a state income tax, only on "the rich", and with a sales-tax reduction as a bribe to make the rest of the voters happy.
This was not a popular idea; I think most people view this as the camel's nose entering the tent.
(Certainly that's how I view it... once we have the income tax, every year the definition of who is "rich" will be revised downward.
)  That idea is dead for now.As for sales tax:The sales tax is already 9.5\% in the Seattle area; of that, 6.5\% goes to the state.
(Numbers from here [wa.gov].
)  I suspect that nobody quite dares yet to hit the threshold of 10\% sales tax or higher.
Double digits?
That might get some headlines.But surprise surprise, the state legislature is seriously debating a proposal [nwsource.com] to add 0.2\% to the state sales tax rate, at least temporarily.
This would bring sales tax new me to 9.7\%.But I'm sure they'd rather hide the tax burden from the people who are ultimately paying it.
Gotta love the government.They'd certainly rather find creative ways to hike taxes than ever to cut spending.
It's a down economy, everyone is hurting, tax revenues have fallen, but they can't possibly cut spending.
I wonder how long this can last.steveha</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631964</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269595980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do we care what a tax cheat did?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do we care what a tax cheat did ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do we care what a tax cheat did?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631498</id>
	<title>Re:FOSS Contributions</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269594060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's 10\% of free?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's 10 \ % of free ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's 10\% of free?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632294</id>
	<title>Andrew Stack was a terrorist.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269597240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fuck Andrew Stack.<br>Fuck anyone who would support him or his aims.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fuck Andrew Stack.Fuck anyone who would support him or his aims .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fuck Andrew Stack.Fuck anyone who would support him or his aims.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632664</id>
	<title>Re:Bad bill...</title>
	<author>AshtangiMan</author>
	<datestamp>1269598680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You spelled republican wrong.  Oh, and look at that, I spelled greedy politician wrong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You spelled republican wrong .
Oh , and look at that , I spelled greedy politician wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You spelled republican wrong.
Oh, and look at that, I spelled greedy politician wrong.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630892</id>
	<title>we cant work for our selves anyway</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269634860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You obviously have not heard of the "The law, known as Section 1706 of the 1986 Tax Reform Act", this makes it extremely difficult for programmers to work as self-employed individuals.  So, for the average individual geek, you can't actually make a living as a professional programmer, this is just another attack on out profession to make us minions of corporations.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You obviously have not heard of the " The law , known as Section 1706 of the 1986 Tax Reform Act " , this makes it extremely difficult for programmers to work as self-employed individuals .
So , for the average individual geek , you ca n't actually make a living as a professional programmer , this is just another attack on out profession to make us minions of corporations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You obviously have not heard of the "The law, known as Section 1706 of the 1986 Tax Reform Act", this makes it extremely difficult for programmers to work as self-employed individuals.
So, for the average individual geek, you can't actually make a living as a professional programmer, this is just another attack on out profession to make us minions of corporations.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631438</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>toastar</author>
	<datestamp>1269637080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A Sales Tax is pretty much regressive by definition.</p><p>Well as long as the Elasticity of demand is less then 1. And i don't think rich people pay more for software then poor people</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A Sales Tax is pretty much regressive by definition.Well as long as the Elasticity of demand is less then 1 .
And i do n't think rich people pay more for software then poor people</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Sales Tax is pretty much regressive by definition.Well as long as the Elasticity of demand is less then 1.
And i don't think rich people pay more for software then poor people</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631596</id>
	<title>Re:or they could you know...spend less money?</title>
	<author>westyvw</author>
	<datestamp>1269594480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But instead, the special session in WA right now is costing us extra. Nice huh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But instead , the special session in WA right now is costing us extra .
Nice huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But instead, the special session in WA right now is costing us extra.
Nice huh?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630938</id>
	<title>typical of Washington State</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Washington State, and its Democrat Party, are completely in Microsoft's pocket.  Ever since Boeing indicated that it is leaving the state, the state is of, by, and for Microsoft.</p><p>Microsoft wants a tax break, Microsoft gets it.</p><p>Microsoft wants the University of Washington to stop this "open source software" nonsense and use proper Microsoft software, UW fires its OSS developers and switches to Microsoft.</p><p>Microsoft wants competing software developers taxed, they get taxed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Washington State , and its Democrat Party , are completely in Microsoft 's pocket .
Ever since Boeing indicated that it is leaving the state , the state is of , by , and for Microsoft.Microsoft wants a tax break , Microsoft gets it.Microsoft wants the University of Washington to stop this " open source software " nonsense and use proper Microsoft software , UW fires its OSS developers and switches to Microsoft.Microsoft wants competing software developers taxed , they get taxed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Washington State, and its Democrat Party, are completely in Microsoft's pocket.
Ever since Boeing indicated that it is leaving the state, the state is of, by, and for Microsoft.Microsoft wants a tax break, Microsoft gets it.Microsoft wants the University of Washington to stop this "open source software" nonsense and use proper Microsoft software, UW fires its OSS developers and switches to Microsoft.Microsoft wants competing software developers taxed, they get taxed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631474</id>
	<title>Re:A different tax proposal</title>
	<author>westyvw</author>
	<datestamp>1269594000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thats a good idea! And while they waste time writing and debating it in special session, the costs to get that bill moved through will cause the net value to be nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats a good idea !
And while they waste time writing and debating it in special session , the costs to get that bill moved through will cause the net value to be nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats a good idea!
And while they waste time writing and debating it in special session, the costs to get that bill moved through will cause the net value to be nothing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632506</id>
	<title>Re:Uhmm...</title>
	<author>NewbieProgrammerMan</author>
	<datestamp>1269598080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Or do they mean software that is pumped out by the thousands, like MS Windows.</p></div><p>I'm guessing....no.  MS has a metric fuckton of lobbyists leaning on the lawmakers, most little custom software shops don't.</p><p>"Custom software" is any software that the state of Washington can be troubled to find out that I'm developing for somebody.  Good luck tracking that, WA!  Let me know how it turns out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or do they mean software that is pumped out by the thousands , like MS Windows.I 'm guessing....no .
MS has a metric fuckton of lobbyists leaning on the lawmakers , most little custom software shops do n't .
" Custom software " is any software that the state of Washington can be troubled to find out that I 'm developing for somebody .
Good luck tracking that , WA !
Let me know how it turns out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or do they mean software that is pumped out by the thousands, like MS Windows.I'm guessing....no.
MS has a metric fuckton of lobbyists leaning on the lawmakers, most little custom software shops don't.
"Custom software" is any software that the state of Washington can be troubled to find out that I'm developing for somebody.
Good luck tracking that, WA!
Let me know how it turns out.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632840</id>
	<title>Re:Bad bill...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269599520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are nt all these states whom are in fiscal shambles run by Democrats ? And havent these same group of Ra tards the same folks who have been running these states into the ground for decades ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are nt all these states whom are in fiscal shambles run by Democrats ?
And havent these same group of Ra tards the same folks who have been running these states into the ground for decades ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are nt all these states whom are in fiscal shambles run by Democrats ?
And havent these same group of Ra tards the same folks who have been running these states into the ground for decades ?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632452</id>
	<title>Re:Bad bill...</title>
	<author>ProfessionalCookie</author>
	<datestamp>1269597900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention we should all be wondering what exactly is "software" and what is "custom".  Word Macros, HTML, Javascript, Java, PHP, C++, Assembly? Is software for 5 users still custom, 100 users?  What if it's only available to certain people but lots of them?  What if it's only available at an outrageous per seat price?<p>I'm willing to bet the law won't be written by anyone who knows anything about "Custom Software".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention we should all be wondering what exactly is " software " and what is " custom " .
Word Macros , HTML , Javascript , Java , PHP , C + + , Assembly ?
Is software for 5 users still custom , 100 users ?
What if it 's only available to certain people but lots of them ?
What if it 's only available at an outrageous per seat price ? I 'm willing to bet the law wo n't be written by anyone who knows anything about " Custom Software " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention we should all be wondering what exactly is "software" and what is "custom".
Word Macros, HTML, Javascript, Java, PHP, C++, Assembly?
Is software for 5 users still custom, 100 users?
What if it's only available to certain people but lots of them?
What if it's only available at an outrageous per seat price?I'm willing to bet the law won't be written by anyone who knows anything about "Custom Software".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630980</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Andrew Stack is a conservative domestic terrorist. Who the fuck cares what he thinks? Are you honestly suggesting that passing this bill would cause more terrorism incidents?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Andrew Stack is a conservative domestic terrorist .
Who the fuck cares what he thinks ?
Are you honestly suggesting that passing this bill would cause more terrorism incidents ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Andrew Stack is a conservative domestic terrorist.
Who the fuck cares what he thinks?
Are you honestly suggesting that passing this bill would cause more terrorism incidents?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631066</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269635640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>do you honestly think that openly agreeing a terrorist who flew an airplane into a building makes you look sane?</p><p>Mohammed Atta's group had a carefully-executed plan and as a result were the first people to ever fly airplanes into buildings before to the buildings collapsed (there, I stated it in such a way that everyone, including people who think the bombs the CIA planted in the basement was what took down the buildings, can agree with).  Andrew Stack was an idiot with no ability to think things through, which is why he could never plan for taxes either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>do you honestly think that openly agreeing a terrorist who flew an airplane into a building makes you look sane ? Mohammed Atta 's group had a carefully-executed plan and as a result were the first people to ever fly airplanes into buildings before to the buildings collapsed ( there , I stated it in such a way that everyone , including people who think the bombs the CIA planted in the basement was what took down the buildings , can agree with ) .
Andrew Stack was an idiot with no ability to think things through , which is why he could never plan for taxes either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>do you honestly think that openly agreeing a terrorist who flew an airplane into a building makes you look sane?Mohammed Atta's group had a carefully-executed plan and as a result were the first people to ever fly airplanes into buildings before to the buildings collapsed (there, I stated it in such a way that everyone, including people who think the bombs the CIA planted in the basement was what took down the buildings, can agree with).
Andrew Stack was an idiot with no ability to think things through, which is why he could never plan for taxes either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631992</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>Yaa 101</author>
	<datestamp>1269596040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because senators and representatives have stock them selfs, often with these behemoths.</p><p>A lot of these problems go away when you forbid these people to have stock while being representative for the state or US government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because senators and representatives have stock them selfs , often with these behemoths.A lot of these problems go away when you forbid these people to have stock while being representative for the state or US government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because senators and representatives have stock them selfs, often with these behemoths.A lot of these problems go away when you forbid these people to have stock while being representative for the state or US government.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631032</id>
	<title>Re:Andrew would be upset, again.</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1269635460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I thought it was him trying to not pay any taxes that led Andrew Stack to target people who have no influence on his taxes.</p><p>I agree that there are some extremely messed up taxes for some aspects of software development, but that is not why he flew his plane into an IRS office.</p><p>He got sold on the idea that he didn't have to pay ANY taxes, ANY, Zip, zero, zilch, none.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought it was him trying to not pay any taxes that led Andrew Stack to target people who have no influence on his taxes.I agree that there are some extremely messed up taxes for some aspects of software development , but that is not why he flew his plane into an IRS office.He got sold on the idea that he did n't have to pay ANY taxes , ANY , Zip , zero , zilch , none .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought it was him trying to not pay any taxes that led Andrew Stack to target people who have no influence on his taxes.I agree that there are some extremely messed up taxes for some aspects of software development, but that is not why he flew his plane into an IRS office.He got sold on the idea that he didn't have to pay ANY taxes, ANY, Zip, zero, zilch, none.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630974</id>
	<title>How about some honesty in taxation?</title>
	<author>mosb1000</author>
	<datestamp>1269635160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or, they could be honest and raise the money though an old-fashioned income tax, or sales tax.  But I'm sure they'd rather hide the tax burden from the people who are ultimately paying it.  Gotta love the government.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or , they could be honest and raise the money though an old-fashioned income tax , or sales tax .
But I 'm sure they 'd rather hide the tax burden from the people who are ultimately paying it .
Got ta love the government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or, they could be honest and raise the money though an old-fashioned income tax, or sales tax.
But I'm sure they'd rather hide the tax burden from the people who are ultimately paying it.
Gotta love the government.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31630824</id>
	<title>A different tax proposal</title>
	<author>ZuchinniOne</author>
	<datestamp>1269634620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I propose a 20\% tax on people who pass stupid laws!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I propose a 20 \ % tax on people who pass stupid laws !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I propose a 20\% tax on people who pass stupid laws!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631290</id>
	<title>It's nothing like offshoring.</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1269636420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Microsoft still has it's employees in Washington, pays them income, and is taxed on that income. It is also taxed on the property it owns in the state. They are paying their fair share of the taxes needed to maintain the public services in the area. Washington is being a bunch of greedy fucks, trying to get the entire world to pay sales tax on products created in the state. In other words they have have created what amounts to a state export tariff, which is unconstitutional.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Microsoft still has it 's employees in Washington , pays them income , and is taxed on that income .
It is also taxed on the property it owns in the state .
They are paying their fair share of the taxes needed to maintain the public services in the area .
Washington is being a bunch of greedy fucks , trying to get the entire world to pay sales tax on products created in the state .
In other words they have have created what amounts to a state export tariff , which is unconstitutional .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Microsoft still has it's employees in Washington, pays them income, and is taxed on that income.
It is also taxed on the property it owns in the state.
They are paying their fair share of the taxes needed to maintain the public services in the area.
Washington is being a bunch of greedy fucks, trying to get the entire world to pay sales tax on products created in the state.
In other words they have have created what amounts to a state export tariff, which is unconstitutional.</sentencetext>
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	<title>No, they are not saying that at all.</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1269595200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What they are saying is: "We know who pays our re-election campaigns to get the voter with an attention span of a 3 seconds and who will vote for us anyway as long as we shout TAX-CUTS right before the election."
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What they are saying is : " We know who pays our re-election campaigns to get the voter with an attention span of a 3 seconds and who will vote for us anyway as long as we shout TAX-CUTS right before the election .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What they are saying is: "We know who pays our re-election campaigns to get the voter with an attention span of a 3 seconds and who will vote for us anyway as long as we shout TAX-CUTS right before the election.
"
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31632442</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft's tax cut and a sales tax</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1269597900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The sales tax is a very regressive tax. Why should ordinary people of Washington take the hit disproportionately so that Microsoft can be let off the hook for what is basically equivalent to offshoring?</i> </p><p>The Washington state sales tax is 6.5\%, only a tad higher than the national average. Washington does have both state and local property taxes - and Microsoft owns ten million square feet of office space and leases five million more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The sales tax is a very regressive tax .
Why should ordinary people of Washington take the hit disproportionately so that Microsoft can be let off the hook for what is basically equivalent to offshoring ?
The Washington state sales tax is 6.5 \ % , only a tad higher than the national average .
Washington does have both state and local property taxes - and Microsoft owns ten million square feet of office space and leases five million more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sales tax is a very regressive tax.
Why should ordinary people of Washington take the hit disproportionately so that Microsoft can be let off the hook for what is basically equivalent to offshoring?
The Washington state sales tax is 6.5\%, only a tad higher than the national average.
Washington does have both state and local property taxes - and Microsoft owns ten million square feet of office space and leases five million more.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_1818241.31631120</id>
	<title>Re:or they could you know...spend less money?</title>
	<author>jameskojiro</author>
	<datestamp>1269635760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They should force Congress on a diet of Ramen Noodles and Mac 'n Cheese.   They should put ever damn one of those jackasses in cubibcles instead of offices, put them up in two to three members per room dorm type housing, install a timeclock in the senate and house chambers where they have to clock in with their finger prints in order to get paid and only be paid per hour they are actually in session.</p><p>This should save A lot of money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They should force Congress on a diet of Ramen Noodles and Mac 'n Cheese .
They should put ever damn one of those jackasses in cubibcles instead of offices , put them up in two to three members per room dorm type housing , install a timeclock in the senate and house chambers where they have to clock in with their finger prints in order to get paid and only be paid per hour they are actually in session.This should save A lot of money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They should force Congress on a diet of Ramen Noodles and Mac 'n Cheese.
They should put ever damn one of those jackasses in cubibcles instead of offices, put them up in two to three members per room dorm type housing, install a timeclock in the senate and house chambers where they have to clock in with their finger prints in order to get paid and only be paid per hour they are actually in session.This should save A lot of money.</sentencetext>
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