<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_26_124256</id>
	<title>20 Years For Gonzalez In TJX Hacker Case</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1269607740000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>alphadogg writes <i>"Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/012109-heartland-data-breach-could-be.html?fsrc=rss-security">two concurrent 20-year stints in prison</a> for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers. US District Court Judge Patti B. Saris announced the concurrent sentences in two 2008 cases against Gonzalez, 28, a Cuban-American who was born in Miami, where he lived when the crimes were committed. Gonzalez and co-conspirators hacked into computer systems and <a href="http://it.slashdot.org/story/07/03/29/1618239/TJX-Is-Biggest-Data-Breach-Ever">stole credit card information from TJX</a>, Office Max, DSW and Dave and Buster's, among other online retail outlets, in one of the largest &mdash; if not <em>the</em> largest &mdash; cybercrime operations targeting that sort of data thus far. They then sold the numbers to other criminals. Gonzalez pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in two cases related to those thefts last December and the following day entered a guilty plea in a third case involving hacking into computer networks of Heartland Payment Systems and the Hannaford Supermarkets and 7-Eleven chains."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>alphadogg writes " Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two concurrent 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled ' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers .
US District Court Judge Patti B. Saris announced the concurrent sentences in two 2008 cases against Gonzalez , 28 , a Cuban-American who was born in Miami , where he lived when the crimes were committed .
Gonzalez and co-conspirators hacked into computer systems and stole credit card information from TJX , Office Max , DSW and Dave and Buster 's , among other online retail outlets , in one of the largest    if not the largest    cybercrime operations targeting that sort of data thus far .
They then sold the numbers to other criminals .
Gonzalez pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in two cases related to those thefts last December and the following day entered a guilty plea in a third case involving hacking into computer networks of Heartland Payment Systems and the Hannaford Supermarkets and 7-Eleven chains .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>alphadogg writes "Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two concurrent 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers.
US District Court Judge Patti B. Saris announced the concurrent sentences in two 2008 cases against Gonzalez, 28, a Cuban-American who was born in Miami, where he lived when the crimes were committed.
Gonzalez and co-conspirators hacked into computer systems and stole credit card information from TJX, Office Max, DSW and Dave and Buster's, among other online retail outlets, in one of the largest — if not the largest — cybercrime operations targeting that sort of data thus far.
They then sold the numbers to other criminals.
Gonzalez pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in two cases related to those thefts last December and the following day entered a guilty plea in a third case involving hacking into computer networks of Heartland Payment Systems and the Hannaford Supermarkets and 7-Eleven chains.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625916</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>mapkinase</author>
	<datestamp>1269617220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's racist only if you say African-American or Jewish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's racist only if you say African-American or Jewish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's racist only if you say African-American or Jewish.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625532</id>
	<title>Re:In most countries.....</title>
	<author>OzPeter</author>
	<datestamp>1269615720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You'll get less for murder.</p></div><p>OT sort of. This last week there was a guy in VA who was sentenced in an online pedophile chat room incident.  It was the usual police sting where the guy *thought* he was chatting to a teenage girl, but never actually did.  His sentence<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. 100 years.  My first thought was that it just made abducting and murdering teenage girls less risky than thinking you were chatting with them online</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll get less for murder.OT sort of .
This last week there was a guy in VA who was sentenced in an online pedophile chat room incident .
It was the usual police sting where the guy * thought * he was chatting to a teenage girl , but never actually did .
His sentence .. 100 years .
My first thought was that it just made abducting and murdering teenage girls less risky than thinking you were chatting with them online</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'll get less for murder.OT sort of.
This last week there was a guy in VA who was sentenced in an online pedophile chat room incident.
It was the usual police sting where the guy *thought* he was chatting to a teenage girl, but never actually did.
His sentence .. 100 years.
My first thought was that it just made abducting and murdering teenage girls less risky than thinking you were chatting with them online
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31627056</id>
	<title>Re: What's the point?</title>
	<author>thomst</author>
	<datestamp>1269621360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american?</p></div><p>It's not racism - it's an allusion to his cigar-rolling skills!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>so what 's the fucking point of saying he 's CUBAN-american ? It 's not racism - it 's an allusion to his cigar-rolling skills !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american?It's not racism - it's an allusion to his cigar-rolling skills!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625742</id>
	<title>Re:Explain Concurrent sentences Please</title>
	<author>eudas</author>
	<datestamp>1269616560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, some brief googling turns up a page which appears to offer a decent answer:<br><a href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/71874/concurrent\_vs\_consecutive\_sentences.html?cat=17" title="associatedcontent.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/71874/concurrent\_vs\_consecutive\_sentences.html?cat=17</a> [associatedcontent.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , some brief googling turns up a page which appears to offer a decent answer : http : //www.associatedcontent.com/article/71874/concurrent \ _vs \ _consecutive \ _sentences.html ? cat = 17 [ associatedcontent.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, some brief googling turns up a page which appears to offer a decent answer:http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/71874/concurrent\_vs\_consecutive\_sentences.html?cat=17 [associatedcontent.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626220</id>
	<title>Not a mastermind</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269618300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hm, he got caught, tried and sentenced.  Doesn't sound like a "hacker mastermind" to me.  Sounds like a stupid cracker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hm , he got caught , tried and sentenced .
Does n't sound like a " hacker mastermind " to me .
Sounds like a stupid cracker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hm, he got caught, tried and sentenced.
Doesn't sound like a "hacker mastermind" to me.
Sounds like a stupid cracker.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31627596</id>
	<title>Re:You got my hopes up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269623640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Alberto should be in jail too!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Alberto should be in jail too !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Alberto should be in jail too!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625142</id>
	<title>I think the sentence is wrong :)</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1269613860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't give him 2 20-year concurrent sentences.</p><p>Give him a misdemeanor sentence of several hours per victim, stacked, then throw in a couple of felony charges with concurrent sentences so he'll have a felony record.</p><p>It amounts to the same amount of time, but when someone looks at his rap sheet he'll see millions of convictions on his record.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't give him 2 20-year concurrent sentences.Give him a misdemeanor sentence of several hours per victim , stacked , then throw in a couple of felony charges with concurrent sentences so he 'll have a felony record.It amounts to the same amount of time , but when someone looks at his rap sheet he 'll see millions of convictions on his record .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't give him 2 20-year concurrent sentences.Give him a misdemeanor sentence of several hours per victim, stacked, then throw in a couple of felony charges with concurrent sentences so he'll have a felony record.It amounts to the same amount of time, but when someone looks at his rap sheet he'll see millions of convictions on his record.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624934</id>
	<title>TJX Case</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269612660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's missing here is the fact that TJX didn't take reasonable precautions to protect the data.</p><p>They already coughed up $41m to Visa and the FTC received a chunk of change from them as well.</p><p>The only way these kinds of thefts will be stopped is if these companies get serious about protecting Credit Card and Personal information.  While PCI goes a long way in trying to address the Credit Card side of things, the Personal Information problem is still looming.  We need tougher laws that make companies who gather sensitive information, SSNs etc. fully accountable when theft of the data in their possession occurs.</p><p>All in all, I still bet this guy has about $10m buried someplace but still 20 years of your life is a very stiff sentence considering a plea bargain as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's missing here is the fact that TJX did n't take reasonable precautions to protect the data.They already coughed up $ 41m to Visa and the FTC received a chunk of change from them as well.The only way these kinds of thefts will be stopped is if these companies get serious about protecting Credit Card and Personal information .
While PCI goes a long way in trying to address the Credit Card side of things , the Personal Information problem is still looming .
We need tougher laws that make companies who gather sensitive information , SSNs etc .
fully accountable when theft of the data in their possession occurs.All in all , I still bet this guy has about $ 10m buried someplace but still 20 years of your life is a very stiff sentence considering a plea bargain as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's missing here is the fact that TJX didn't take reasonable precautions to protect the data.They already coughed up $41m to Visa and the FTC received a chunk of change from them as well.The only way these kinds of thefts will be stopped is if these companies get serious about protecting Credit Card and Personal information.
While PCI goes a long way in trying to address the Credit Card side of things, the Personal Information problem is still looming.
We need tougher laws that make companies who gather sensitive information, SSNs etc.
fully accountable when theft of the data in their possession occurs.All in all, I still bet this guy has about $10m buried someplace but still 20 years of your life is a very stiff sentence considering a plea bargain as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625162</id>
	<title>way to go FBI</title>
	<author>cats-paw</author>
	<datestamp>1269613980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now, how are those financial investigations of Wall St coming along ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now , how are those financial investigations of Wall St coming along ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now, how are those financial investigations of Wall St coming along ?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624910</id>
	<title>If only he had raped or killed someone...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269612600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If only he had raped or killed someone he might have got between 8-12 years... Damn evil hackers with their magic spells that I don't understand and thus am scared of!</p><p>Although this guy did have it coming (stealing CC numbers is clearly blackhat); it is still funny to watch how insanely disproportionality computer crimes in particular are handled. If it is just normal fraud then fine, two years, one in jail. But if it is Computer fraud then you're looking at AT LEAST double that.</p><p>I just hope these old people die off sooner or later.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If only he had raped or killed someone he might have got between 8-12 years... Damn evil hackers with their magic spells that I do n't understand and thus am scared of ! Although this guy did have it coming ( stealing CC numbers is clearly blackhat ) ; it is still funny to watch how insanely disproportionality computer crimes in particular are handled .
If it is just normal fraud then fine , two years , one in jail .
But if it is Computer fraud then you 're looking at AT LEAST double that.I just hope these old people die off sooner or later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If only he had raped or killed someone he might have got between 8-12 years... Damn evil hackers with their magic spells that I don't understand and thus am scared of!Although this guy did have it coming (stealing CC numbers is clearly blackhat); it is still funny to watch how insanely disproportionality computer crimes in particular are handled.
If it is just normal fraud then fine, two years, one in jail.
But if it is Computer fraud then you're looking at AT LEAST double that.I just hope these old people die off sooner or later.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624818</id>
	<title>So</title>
	<author>zoomshorts</author>
	<datestamp>1269612180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Heartland claimed that no merchant data, cardholder's Social Security numbers, or unencrypted personal identification numbers (PIN), addresses or telephone numbers were compromised. "</p><p>So where is the crime if nothing was compromised?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Heartland claimed that no merchant data , cardholder 's Social Security numbers , or unencrypted personal identification numbers ( PIN ) , addresses or telephone numbers were compromised .
" So where is the crime if nothing was compromised ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Heartland claimed that no merchant data, cardholder's Social Security numbers, or unencrypted personal identification numbers (PIN), addresses or telephone numbers were compromised.
"So where is the crime if nothing was compromised?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626414</id>
	<title>Re:You got my hopes up</title>
	<author>GodfatherofSoul</author>
	<datestamp>1269618900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OT but I'll try to paraphrase a really obscene exchange of Alberto's perjured Senate testimony.  This is where they gave him a week to "correct himself":</p><p>Schumer: "So, you're saying this information was publicly available even though there is no evidence of what you're saying."<br>Fredo: "Yes, I told a reporter."<br>Schumer: "Oh!  You did!  Which reporter did you tell at which outlet?"<br>Fredo: "Um, it wasn't really me, it was someone who worked for me."<br>Schumer: "Oh! So who did you tell in your staff to alert the media?"<br>Fredo: "I don't recall."<br>Schumer: "Well, which media outlet did they alert."<br>Fredo: "I don't recall."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OT but I 'll try to paraphrase a really obscene exchange of Alberto 's perjured Senate testimony .
This is where they gave him a week to " correct himself " : Schumer : " So , you 're saying this information was publicly available even though there is no evidence of what you 're saying .
" Fredo : " Yes , I told a reporter .
" Schumer : " Oh !
You did !
Which reporter did you tell at which outlet ?
" Fredo : " Um , it was n't really me , it was someone who worked for me .
" Schumer : " Oh !
So who did you tell in your staff to alert the media ?
" Fredo : " I do n't recall .
" Schumer : " Well , which media outlet did they alert .
" Fredo : " I do n't recall .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OT but I'll try to paraphrase a really obscene exchange of Alberto's perjured Senate testimony.
This is where they gave him a week to "correct himself":Schumer: "So, you're saying this information was publicly available even though there is no evidence of what you're saying.
"Fredo: "Yes, I told a reporter.
"Schumer: "Oh!
You did!
Which reporter did you tell at which outlet?
"Fredo: "Um, it wasn't really me, it was someone who worked for me.
"Schumer: "Oh!
So who did you tell in your staff to alert the media?
"Fredo: "I don't recall.
"Schumer: "Well, which media outlet did they alert.
"Fredo: "I don't recall.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625118</id>
	<title>Better than, "Your little Mexican friend."</title>
	<author>Aldenissin</author>
	<datestamp>1269613740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not Mexican yo! I'm Cuban, B.</p><p>"Ah yes, Cuban B!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not Mexican yo !
I 'm Cuban , B .
" Ah yes , Cuban B !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not Mexican yo!
I'm Cuban, B.
"Ah yes, Cuban B!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625258</id>
	<title>Re:In most countries.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269614400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Including this one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Including this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Including this one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624712</id>
	<title>In most countries.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269611520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You'll get less for murder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll get less for murder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'll get less for murder.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625170</id>
	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269613980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And how many years for the <b>retards</b> who transmitted <i>my</i> personal sensitive information in plaintext???!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And how many years for the retards who transmitted my personal sensitive information in plaintext ? ? ? !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And how many years for the retards who transmitted my personal sensitive information in plaintext???!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31627064</id>
	<title>Re:Explain Concurrent sentences Please</title>
	<author>Smallpond</author>
	<datestamp>1269621360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What's the logic behind concurrent sentences. 2 concurrent 20 year sentences is for all intents and purposes the same as one 20 year sentence. SO he basically got away with one of the crimes with no punishment. If its because 40 years for these 2 crimes is too harsh, then logically 20 years is too harsh for 1 and the law needs to be changed. Can someone explain the logic to me</p></div><p>What happens if one of the two cases gets reversed on appeal?  You want him to go free?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the logic behind concurrent sentences .
2 concurrent 20 year sentences is for all intents and purposes the same as one 20 year sentence .
SO he basically got away with one of the crimes with no punishment .
If its because 40 years for these 2 crimes is too harsh , then logically 20 years is too harsh for 1 and the law needs to be changed .
Can someone explain the logic to meWhat happens if one of the two cases gets reversed on appeal ?
You want him to go free ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the logic behind concurrent sentences.
2 concurrent 20 year sentences is for all intents and purposes the same as one 20 year sentence.
SO he basically got away with one of the crimes with no punishment.
If its because 40 years for these 2 crimes is too harsh, then logically 20 years is too harsh for 1 and the law needs to be changed.
Can someone explain the logic to meWhat happens if one of the two cases gets reversed on appeal?
You want him to go free?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626582</id>
	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1269619620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PCI does nothing at all compared to what COULD be done using the technology we already have available.</p><p>Consider if a credit card with a smart chip signed the transactions. Customer uses personal interface to authorize a charge. POS then presents a charge record complete with their merchant account number and if it is no more than authorized, the smart chip assigns it a serial number and signs it. Merchant presents the signed charge to CC company.</p><p>At that point, it doesn't matter in the least if someone grabs a copy of the transaction. Without the signature, the rest of the info is worthless but with it, it can only be processed once and it goes into the merchant's account.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PCI does nothing at all compared to what COULD be done using the technology we already have available.Consider if a credit card with a smart chip signed the transactions .
Customer uses personal interface to authorize a charge .
POS then presents a charge record complete with their merchant account number and if it is no more than authorized , the smart chip assigns it a serial number and signs it .
Merchant presents the signed charge to CC company.At that point , it does n't matter in the least if someone grabs a copy of the transaction .
Without the signature , the rest of the info is worthless but with it , it can only be processed once and it goes into the merchant 's account .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PCI does nothing at all compared to what COULD be done using the technology we already have available.Consider if a credit card with a smart chip signed the transactions.
Customer uses personal interface to authorize a charge.
POS then presents a charge record complete with their merchant account number and if it is no more than authorized, the smart chip assigns it a serial number and signs it.
Merchant presents the signed charge to CC company.At that point, it doesn't matter in the least if someone grabs a copy of the transaction.
Without the signature, the rest of the info is worthless but with it, it can only be processed once and it goes into the merchant's account.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625318</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>SirGarlon</author>
	<datestamp>1269614700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish you could express outrage without resorting to the F-bomb, but yeah.</p><p>--SirGarlon, a Polish-English-Dutch-American born in New York</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish you could express outrage without resorting to the F-bomb , but yeah.--SirGarlon , a Polish-English-Dutch-American born in New York</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish you could express outrage without resorting to the F-bomb, but yeah.--SirGarlon, a Polish-English-Dutch-American born in New York</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31645000</id>
	<title>Re:In most countries.....</title>
	<author>ps2os2</author>
	<datestamp>1269710100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the big reasons is that this type of crime (not specifically taping into the airwaves) is that the punishment is so light. When will the government understand that in order to deter white collar crime is that you must PUNISH people for doing it essentially 20 years (and who know how much less for good behavior) is essentially a slap on the wrist. Now if it had been 40 years with no time off for anything (except maybe death) is the only way you send a message to people contemplating future crimes like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the big reasons is that this type of crime ( not specifically taping into the airwaves ) is that the punishment is so light .
When will the government understand that in order to deter white collar crime is that you must PUNISH people for doing it essentially 20 years ( and who know how much less for good behavior ) is essentially a slap on the wrist .
Now if it had been 40 years with no time off for anything ( except maybe death ) is the only way you send a message to people contemplating future crimes like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the big reasons is that this type of crime (not specifically taping into the airwaves) is that the punishment is so light.
When will the government understand that in order to deter white collar crime is that you must PUNISH people for doing it essentially 20 years (and who know how much less for good behavior) is essentially a slap on the wrist.
Now if it had been 40 years with no time off for anything (except maybe death) is the only way you send a message to people contemplating future crimes like this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31636854</id>
	<title>How can you have a fair trial? Illegal trial.</title>
	<author>NSN A392-99-964-5927</author>
	<datestamp>1269625320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have stated this for the past Twenty Years and I will reiterate this all over again. You cannot have a fair trial without a Jury of IT experts. Even the Judge cannot Judge properly if he is not an IT expert. How do you expect a fair trial? Well you just do not do you? it is fucking pathetic and a travesty when people on the Jury's expertise is Windows, Internet Explorer, MSN/Windows Live and cannot even secure their own systems that are full of frigging malware and spyware.

Seriously I am furious, and I have earned the right to protest about this since using computers since 1978. If I were the laywer, I would purely appeal this conviction based on the fact "The jury were not able to make a rational decision as they could not comprehend the evidence in hand".

It will be quite easy to pressurise the prosecution lawyer into a corner, the judge, jury and DA with some simple questions of what is an IP or what is the IP address of The District Attorney's website then DNS and Nameservers.

You see these people cannot answer these questions, let alone know how to set up RDNS, MX records etc. I feel most of you are being unfair regarding this trial and pre-judging like a "kangaroo court" <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo\_court" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo\_court</a> [wikipedia.org] It is a friggin mess.  Just put yourself in this guys shoes for one moment, you will realise if it were you in the dock, you would feel aggrevied. I do not care if this post escalates my karma to bad, but what do you expect?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/MOTD Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. Or as Alan Roberts always told me RSM from Queens Lancashire Regiment; Never under estimate stupid people in government, 80\% of them are corrupt with invested interests, put them on the frontline as fighting soldiers and see who is truly brave! R.I.P AR RSM you will be missed but not forgotten =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have stated this for the past Twenty Years and I will reiterate this all over again .
You can not have a fair trial without a Jury of IT experts .
Even the Judge can not Judge properly if he is not an IT expert .
How do you expect a fair trial ?
Well you just do not do you ?
it is fucking pathetic and a travesty when people on the Jury 's expertise is Windows , Internet Explorer , MSN/Windows Live and can not even secure their own systems that are full of frigging malware and spyware .
Seriously I am furious , and I have earned the right to protest about this since using computers since 1978 .
If I were the laywer , I would purely appeal this conviction based on the fact " The jury were not able to make a rational decision as they could not comprehend the evidence in hand " .
It will be quite easy to pressurise the prosecution lawyer into a corner , the judge , jury and DA with some simple questions of what is an IP or what is the IP address of The District Attorney 's website then DNS and Nameservers .
You see these people can not answer these questions , let alone know how to set up RDNS , MX records etc .
I feel most of you are being unfair regarding this trial and pre-judging like a " kangaroo court " http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo \ _court [ wikipedia.org ] It is a friggin mess .
Just put yourself in this guys shoes for one moment , you will realise if it were you in the dock , you would feel aggrevied .
I do not care if this post escalates my karma to bad , but what do you expect ?
/MOTD Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers .
Or as Alan Roberts always told me RSM from Queens Lancashire Regiment ; Never under estimate stupid people in government , 80 \ % of them are corrupt with invested interests , put them on the frontline as fighting soldiers and see who is truly brave !
R.I.P AR RSM you will be missed but not forgotten = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have stated this for the past Twenty Years and I will reiterate this all over again.
You cannot have a fair trial without a Jury of IT experts.
Even the Judge cannot Judge properly if he is not an IT expert.
How do you expect a fair trial?
Well you just do not do you?
it is fucking pathetic and a travesty when people on the Jury's expertise is Windows, Internet Explorer, MSN/Windows Live and cannot even secure their own systems that are full of frigging malware and spyware.
Seriously I am furious, and I have earned the right to protest about this since using computers since 1978.
If I were the laywer, I would purely appeal this conviction based on the fact "The jury were not able to make a rational decision as they could not comprehend the evidence in hand".
It will be quite easy to pressurise the prosecution lawyer into a corner, the judge, jury and DA with some simple questions of what is an IP or what is the IP address of The District Attorney's website then DNS and Nameservers.
You see these people cannot answer these questions, let alone know how to set up RDNS, MX records etc.
I feel most of you are being unfair regarding this trial and pre-judging like a "kangaroo court" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo\_court [wikipedia.org] It is a friggin mess.
Just put yourself in this guys shoes for one moment, you will realise if it were you in the dock, you would feel aggrevied.
I do not care if this post escalates my karma to bad, but what do you expect?
/MOTD Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.
Or as Alan Roberts always told me RSM from Queens Lancashire Regiment; Never under estimate stupid people in government, 80\% of them are corrupt with invested interests, put them on the frontline as fighting soldiers and see who is truly brave!
R.I.P AR RSM you will be missed but not forgotten =)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625232</id>
	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>Aldenissin</author>
	<datestamp>1269614280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I second this! TJX used default passwords and several other bad practices and kept on once they knew they had a problem. Had they taken the public's data security seriously, this guy would likely never had been able to do what he did here.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; When you can sit outside and type Username: (Name of manager inside) and Password: admin, wirelessly and then get credit card data from the registers which is not supposed to be stored, then yes it is YOUR fault that this happened as well. Especially when those same registers are linked directly to the main servers with surprise, default passwords!</p><p>
&nbsp; If I open the door and tell everyone come get this other persons shit, then I am liable as well. It is sad that TJX isn't in this case. I have even heard of someone in my area who were able to trace their trouble to TJX, as they rarely used the card. I asked if they shopped there and yup, that was the only place they had used the card in since the beginning of the year before that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I second this !
TJX used default passwords and several other bad practices and kept on once they knew they had a problem .
Had they taken the public 's data security seriously , this guy would likely never had been able to do what he did here .
    When you can sit outside and type Username : ( Name of manager inside ) and Password : admin , wirelessly and then get credit card data from the registers which is not supposed to be stored , then yes it is YOUR fault that this happened as well .
Especially when those same registers are linked directly to the main servers with surprise , default passwords !
  If I open the door and tell everyone come get this other persons shit , then I am liable as well .
It is sad that TJX is n't in this case .
I have even heard of someone in my area who were able to trace their trouble to TJX , as they rarely used the card .
I asked if they shopped there and yup , that was the only place they had used the card in since the beginning of the year before that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I second this!
TJX used default passwords and several other bad practices and kept on once they knew they had a problem.
Had they taken the public's data security seriously, this guy would likely never had been able to do what he did here.
    When you can sit outside and type Username: (Name of manager inside) and Password: admin, wirelessly and then get credit card data from the registers which is not supposed to be stored, then yes it is YOUR fault that this happened as well.
Especially when those same registers are linked directly to the main servers with surprise, default passwords!
  If I open the door and tell everyone come get this other persons shit, then I am liable as well.
It is sad that TJX isn't in this case.
I have even heard of someone in my area who were able to trace their trouble to TJX, as they rarely used the card.
I asked if they shopped there and yup, that was the only place they had used the card in since the beginning of the year before that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625892</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269617160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most geeks on here would think it is an extreme penalty, but when they realize he's a spic quickly change their mind.<br>Racists!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most geeks on here would think it is an extreme penalty , but when they realize he 's a spic quickly change their mind.Racists !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most geeks on here would think it is an extreme penalty, but when they realize he's a spic quickly change their mind.Racists!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31627854</id>
	<title>Re:In most countries.....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269624480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>You'll get less for murder.</p></div></blockquote><p>I doubt that's true if it's your <b>second</b> murder.  When looking at this sentence, it's important to understand that like Mitnik, he'd been caught before and continued to commit the same crimes.  There's really little choice with someone like that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll get less for murder.I doubt that 's true if it 's your second murder .
When looking at this sentence , it 's important to understand that like Mitnik , he 'd been caught before and continued to commit the same crimes .
There 's really little choice with someone like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'll get less for murder.I doubt that's true if it's your second murder.
When looking at this sentence, it's important to understand that like Mitnik, he'd been caught before and continued to commit the same crimes.
There's really little choice with someone like that.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626362</id>
	<title>Free Kevin Mitnick!</title>
	<author>shadowfaxcrx</author>
	<datestamp>1269618720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, wait. .<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.Deja vu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , wait .
. .Deja vu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, wait.
. .Deja vu.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626622</id>
	<title>I loved his defense!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269619680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Defense lawyers said he should get off because he was ill with Asperger's syndrome. That would be a "free get of jail card" for half of us here (at least me).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Defense lawyers said he should get off because he was ill with Asperger 's syndrome .
That would be a " free get of jail card " for half of us here ( at least me ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Defense lawyers said he should get off because he was ill with Asperger's syndrome.
That would be a "free get of jail card" for half of us here (at least me).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625052</id>
	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>coolmoose25</author>
	<datestamp>1269613500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think the reason he got a stiff sentence (midway between the 15-25 sentencing guideline) was that he got caught TWICE for the same crime.  After getting caught the first time, he turned informant, even collecting a $75k salary from the Feds.  Meanwhile, he went back to his fraudulent activities and started working an even bigger crime than the one he was originally busted for, and under the Feds noses at that...  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice and I'll throw the book at you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think the reason he got a stiff sentence ( midway between the 15-25 sentencing guideline ) was that he got caught TWICE for the same crime .
After getting caught the first time , he turned informant , even collecting a $ 75k salary from the Feds .
Meanwhile , he went back to his fraudulent activities and started working an even bigger crime than the one he was originally busted for , and under the Feds noses at that... Fool me once , shame on you .
Fool me twice and I 'll throw the book at you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think the reason he got a stiff sentence (midway between the 15-25 sentencing guideline) was that he got caught TWICE for the same crime.
After getting caught the first time, he turned informant, even collecting a $75k salary from the Feds.
Meanwhile, he went back to his fraudulent activities and started working an even bigger crime than the one he was originally busted for, and under the Feds noses at that...  Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice and I'll throw the book at you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624928</id>
	<title>Parallel Sentencing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269612660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two <b>concurrent</b> 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers.</p></div></blockquote><p>

If I was Albert Gonzalez, I would have asked for 480 concurrent 1-month sentences instead.  Then when the judge finalized the sentence, I'd show him the definition of the word "concurrent".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two concurrent 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled ' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers .
If I was Albert Gonzalez , I would have asked for 480 concurrent 1-month sentences instead .
Then when the judge finalized the sentence , I 'd show him the definition of the word " concurrent " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two concurrent 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers.
If I was Albert Gonzalez, I would have asked for 480 concurrent 1-month sentences instead.
Then when the judge finalized the sentence, I'd show him the definition of the word "concurrent".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625060</id>
	<title>Miss you soup....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269613560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey All,<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I actually knew him.  I met him years ago and became aware of his subversive income at that point.  He was a good kid then, just with little idea of what he was doing.  It's sad he didn't evolve.  Some frieds of mine got him a job at a company doing security work, and while he could break into anything, it turns outhe had a hard problem protecting it.   I think this is what drove him to continue his bad behavior.  The only thing I can say is 20 years is a long term for someone who could benefit society.  It is just sad to see such a waste of a smart kid.</p><p>Peace Soup!</p><p>Anthony</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey All ,         I actually knew him .
I met him years ago and became aware of his subversive income at that point .
He was a good kid then , just with little idea of what he was doing .
It 's sad he did n't evolve .
Some frieds of mine got him a job at a company doing security work , and while he could break into anything , it turns outhe had a hard problem protecting it .
I think this is what drove him to continue his bad behavior .
The only thing I can say is 20 years is a long term for someone who could benefit society .
It is just sad to see such a waste of a smart kid.Peace Soup ! Anthony</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey All,
        I actually knew him.
I met him years ago and became aware of his subversive income at that point.
He was a good kid then, just with little idea of what he was doing.
It's sad he didn't evolve.
Some frieds of mine got him a job at a company doing security work, and while he could break into anything, it turns outhe had a hard problem protecting it.
I think this is what drove him to continue his bad behavior.
The only thing I can say is 20 years is a long term for someone who could benefit society.
It is just sad to see such a waste of a smart kid.Peace Soup!Anthony</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624806</id>
	<title>Cuban-American</title>
	<author>michaelmalak</author>
	<datestamp>1269612120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder whether Albert Gonzalez ever self-identified as "Cuban-American" or whether the Fourteenth Amendment was repealed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder whether Albert Gonzalez ever self-identified as " Cuban-American " or whether the Fourteenth Amendment was repealed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder whether Albert Gonzalez ever self-identified as "Cuban-American" or whether the Fourteenth Amendment was repealed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31627038</id>
	<title>Re:So</title>
	<author>Smallpond</author>
	<datestamp>1269621300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Gonzalez is evidently charged with not only the Heartland case, but also the TJX break-in from 2007.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Gonzalez is evidently charged with not only the Heartland case , but also the TJX break-in from 2007 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Gonzalez is evidently charged with not only the Heartland case, but also the TJX break-in from 2007.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624904</id>
	<title>Explain Concurrent sentences Please</title>
	<author>hanabal</author>
	<datestamp>1269612600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the logic behind concurrent sentences. 2 concurrent 20 year sentences is for all intents and purposes the same as one 20 year sentence. SO he basically got away with one of the crimes with no punishment. If its because 40 years for these 2 crimes is too harsh, then logically 20 years is too harsh for 1 and the law needs to be changed. Can someone explain the logic to me</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the logic behind concurrent sentences .
2 concurrent 20 year sentences is for all intents and purposes the same as one 20 year sentence .
SO he basically got away with one of the crimes with no punishment .
If its because 40 years for these 2 crimes is too harsh , then logically 20 years is too harsh for 1 and the law needs to be changed .
Can someone explain the logic to me</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the logic behind concurrent sentences.
2 concurrent 20 year sentences is for all intents and purposes the same as one 20 year sentence.
SO he basically got away with one of the crimes with no punishment.
If its because 40 years for these 2 crimes is too harsh, then logically 20 years is too harsh for 1 and the law needs to be changed.
Can someone explain the logic to me</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626668</id>
	<title>Fuck this guy, he deserves to rot in prison</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269619860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And unlike most of you, I have BEEN to prison. And unlike<br>Gonzalez, I learned my lesson. Yeah, I fucked up, but I am now<br>a better person and a well-behaved member of society.</p><p>In contrast, this guy is an unrepentant sociopathic piece of shit, and he BELONGS in prison.</p><p>I would also consider giving him a prefrontal lobotomy and<br>a shopping cart, however. Or, allowing a few hundred of those<br>people whose credit card he victimized to have a few minutes<br>alone with him.</p><p>As for the "Cuban-American" reference, apparently some of you kiddies on<br>Slashdot aren't aware that Cuba sent some of its worst thugs to the US.<br>during the Carter administration. Some prejudice has a basis in fact, whether<br>you punks agree or not. Don't believe many Cubans are engaged in crime ?<br>Ask anyone who lives in Miami<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And unlike most of you , I have BEEN to prison .
And unlikeGonzalez , I learned my lesson .
Yeah , I fucked up , but I am nowa better person and a well-behaved member of society.In contrast , this guy is an unrepentant sociopathic piece of shit , and he BELONGS in prison.I would also consider giving him a prefrontal lobotomy anda shopping cart , however .
Or , allowing a few hundred of thosepeople whose credit card he victimized to have a few minutesalone with him.As for the " Cuban-American " reference , apparently some of you kiddies onSlashdot are n't aware that Cuba sent some of its worst thugs to the US.during the Carter administration .
Some prejudice has a basis in fact , whetheryou punks agree or not .
Do n't believe many Cubans are engaged in crime ? Ask anyone who lives in Miami .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And unlike most of you, I have BEEN to prison.
And unlikeGonzalez, I learned my lesson.
Yeah, I fucked up, but I am nowa better person and a well-behaved member of society.In contrast, this guy is an unrepentant sociopathic piece of shit, and he BELONGS in prison.I would also consider giving him a prefrontal lobotomy anda shopping cart, however.
Or, allowing a few hundred of thosepeople whose credit card he victimized to have a few minutesalone with him.As for the "Cuban-American" reference, apparently some of you kiddies onSlashdot aren't aware that Cuba sent some of its worst thugs to the US.during the Carter administration.
Some prejudice has a basis in fact, whetheryou punks agree or not.
Don't believe many Cubans are engaged in crime ?Ask anyone who lives in Miami ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625148</id>
	<title>Self Defined as Cuban American - mayhaps</title>
	<author>realsilly</author>
	<datestamp>1269613860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maybe he declared himself a Cuban American.  In Miami, the Cuban population, whether born here or not, are relatively proud of their Cuban Heritage, and often refer to themselves as Cuban Americans.  Being a Floridian, I'm accutely aware of the self imposed distinctions often made by those people who are of Cuban descent.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe he declared himself a Cuban American .
In Miami , the Cuban population , whether born here or not , are relatively proud of their Cuban Heritage , and often refer to themselves as Cuban Americans .
Being a Floridian , I 'm accutely aware of the self imposed distinctions often made by those people who are of Cuban descent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe he declared himself a Cuban American.
In Miami, the Cuban population, whether born here or not, are relatively proud of their Cuban Heritage, and often refer to themselves as Cuban Americans.
Being a Floridian, I'm accutely aware of the self imposed distinctions often made by those people who are of Cuban descent.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626806</id>
	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>fafaforza</author>
	<datestamp>1269620280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TJX may have not been in compliance with PCI, but if you left your house door unlocked to go to the corner store real quick, and someone ripped off your jewelty (or whatever you hold dear), you'd still want them punished.  And even though you'd have laid some of the blame on yourself and learned a lesson, you'd still want the scumbag thief to face the music of committing the crime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TJX may have not been in compliance with PCI , but if you left your house door unlocked to go to the corner store real quick , and someone ripped off your jewelty ( or whatever you hold dear ) , you 'd still want them punished .
And even though you 'd have laid some of the blame on yourself and learned a lesson , you 'd still want the scumbag thief to face the music of committing the crime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TJX may have not been in compliance with PCI, but if you left your house door unlocked to go to the corner store real quick, and someone ripped off your jewelty (or whatever you hold dear), you'd still want them punished.
And even though you'd have laid some of the blame on yourself and learned a lesson, you'd still want the scumbag thief to face the music of committing the crime.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31628958</id>
	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>gcatullus</author>
	<datestamp>1269627780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree that companies need to safeguard credit card data, but Visa/Mastercard doesn't even have something as simple as chip and pin for cards in the US.</p><p>PCI is a broken system, in that the cartel reaping all the benefits has no risk and foists off the responsibility for protecting card data to the merchant processors who get practically nothing, and then down to the merchants who are PAYING for the privelege of taking credit cards. Visa/Mastercard could and should develop a more secure system, but they won't because they don't have to. Interchange is defended as a cost for originating the credit cards, but why then is it as high in the US as when we still used knuckle busters to process and microfiche to track down stolen cards. I agree hold them accountable, but hold the right people accountable</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree that companies need to safeguard credit card data , but Visa/Mastercard does n't even have something as simple as chip and pin for cards in the US.PCI is a broken system , in that the cartel reaping all the benefits has no risk and foists off the responsibility for protecting card data to the merchant processors who get practically nothing , and then down to the merchants who are PAYING for the privelege of taking credit cards .
Visa/Mastercard could and should develop a more secure system , but they wo n't because they do n't have to .
Interchange is defended as a cost for originating the credit cards , but why then is it as high in the US as when we still used knuckle busters to process and microfiche to track down stolen cards .
I agree hold them accountable , but hold the right people accountable</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree that companies need to safeguard credit card data, but Visa/Mastercard doesn't even have something as simple as chip and pin for cards in the US.PCI is a broken system, in that the cartel reaping all the benefits has no risk and foists off the responsibility for protecting card data to the merchant processors who get practically nothing, and then down to the merchants who are PAYING for the privelege of taking credit cards.
Visa/Mastercard could and should develop a more secure system, but they won't because they don't have to.
Interchange is defended as a cost for originating the credit cards, but why then is it as high in the US as when we still used knuckle busters to process and microfiche to track down stolen cards.
I agree hold them accountable, but hold the right people accountable</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626720</id>
	<title>Re:In most countries.....</title>
	<author>CohibaVancouver</author>
	<datestamp>1269620040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>You'll get less for murder.</i> </p><p>Most murders are committed in the heat of passion by mentally unbalanced people.  This guy rationally and knowingly RUINED many people's lives.  He can rot in prison for all I care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 'll get less for murder .
Most murders are committed in the heat of passion by mentally unbalanced people .
This guy rationally and knowingly RUINED many people 's lives .
He can rot in prison for all I care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You'll get less for murder.
Most murders are committed in the heat of passion by mentally unbalanced people.
This guy rationally and knowingly RUINED many people's lives.
He can rot in prison for all I care.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624712</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625922</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269617220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's just like calling someone Afro-American, although he or she might have never been or linked to Africa in any way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just like calling someone Afro-American , although he or she might have never been or linked to Africa in any way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just like calling someone Afro-American, although he or she might have never been or linked to Africa in any way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625412</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269615060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american?</p></div><p>So we will bust him out so we can get some good cigars.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>so what 's the fucking point of saying he 's CUBAN-american ? So we will bust him out so we can get some good cigars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american?So we will bust him out so we can get some good cigars.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624950</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31627098</id>
	<title>Re:Parallel Sentencing</title>
	<author>Smallpond</author>
	<datestamp>1269621600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><blockquote><div><p>Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two <b>concurrent</b> 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers.</p></div></blockquote><p>If I was Albert Gonzalez, I would have asked for 480 concurrent 1-month sentences instead.  Then when the judge finalized the sentence, I'd show him the definition of the word "concurrent".</p></div><p>Then the crime wouldn't be 'unparalleled', would it?  Besides, the judge could just add a mutex to each sentence so they end up being sequential anyway.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two concurrent 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled ' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers.If I was Albert Gonzalez , I would have asked for 480 concurrent 1-month sentences instead .
Then when the judge finalized the sentence , I 'd show him the definition of the word " concurrent " .Then the crime would n't be 'unparalleled ' , would it ?
Besides , the judge could just add a mutex to each sentence so they end up being sequential anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hacker mastermind Albert Gonzalez was sentenced Thursday in US District Court to two concurrent 20-year stints in prison for his role in what prosecutors called the 'unparalleled' theft of millions of credit card numbers from major US retailers.If I was Albert Gonzalez, I would have asked for 480 concurrent 1-month sentences instead.
Then when the judge finalized the sentence, I'd show him the definition of the word "concurrent".Then the crime wouldn't be 'unparalleled', would it?
Besides, the judge could just add a mutex to each sentence so they end up being sequential anyway.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625156</id>
	<title>Re:So</title>
	<author>sonic\_assault</author>
	<datestamp>1269613920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The crime is that he did something that is blatantly illegal. He illegally breeched that companies systems.

The consequences of people's actions aren't so simple. There may be no 'visible' harm, but you don't hear the story of their IT staff having to work overtime to resolve that breech and the money that company spent to do it. You can justify it by saying the man was helping further their security by showing them a weakness, but that justification fails when he did it to take advantage of them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The crime is that he did something that is blatantly illegal .
He illegally breeched that companies systems .
The consequences of people 's actions are n't so simple .
There may be no 'visible ' harm , but you do n't hear the story of their IT staff having to work overtime to resolve that breech and the money that company spent to do it .
You can justify it by saying the man was helping further their security by showing them a weakness , but that justification fails when he did it to take advantage of them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The crime is that he did something that is blatantly illegal.
He illegally breeched that companies systems.
The consequences of people's actions aren't so simple.
There may be no 'visible' harm, but you don't hear the story of their IT staff having to work overtime to resolve that breech and the money that company spent to do it.
You can justify it by saying the man was helping further their security by showing them a weakness, but that justification fails when he did it to take advantage of them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31626200</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269618180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I live in S. Florida. Ex-Cuban nationals and children of ex-Cuban nationals have what you'd call a lot of national pride. They are quite vocal in informing others about their love for Cuba and their hate for Castro. They are not Puerto Rican, not Colombian, not Venezuelan, but Cuban goddamnit.  I'd say that they're even more adamant about being Cuban than Trinis and Guyanese.</p><p>That bit of rant out of the way, please note that *every* immigrant group (and I am an immigrant) is horribly worried about being confused with another immigrant group.</p><p>Dominicans don't want to be mistaken for Haitians. Trinidadians don't want to be mistaken for Guyanese. Barbadoans are not Jamaicans. Phillipinos are not Vietnamese.</p><p>If you don't make the distinction in S. Florida, various immigrant groups get all upset.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in S. Florida. Ex-Cuban nationals and children of ex-Cuban nationals have what you 'd call a lot of national pride .
They are quite vocal in informing others about their love for Cuba and their hate for Castro .
They are not Puerto Rican , not Colombian , not Venezuelan , but Cuban goddamnit .
I 'd say that they 're even more adamant about being Cuban than Trinis and Guyanese.That bit of rant out of the way , please note that * every * immigrant group ( and I am an immigrant ) is horribly worried about being confused with another immigrant group.Dominicans do n't want to be mistaken for Haitians .
Trinidadians do n't want to be mistaken for Guyanese .
Barbadoans are not Jamaicans .
Phillipinos are not Vietnamese.If you do n't make the distinction in S. Florida , various immigrant groups get all upset .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in S. Florida. Ex-Cuban nationals and children of ex-Cuban nationals have what you'd call a lot of national pride.
They are quite vocal in informing others about their love for Cuba and their hate for Castro.
They are not Puerto Rican, not Colombian, not Venezuelan, but Cuban goddamnit.
I'd say that they're even more adamant about being Cuban than Trinis and Guyanese.That bit of rant out of the way, please note that *every* immigrant group (and I am an immigrant) is horribly worried about being confused with another immigrant group.Dominicans don't want to be mistaken for Haitians.
Trinidadians don't want to be mistaken for Guyanese.
Barbadoans are not Jamaicans.
Phillipinos are not Vietnamese.If you don't make the distinction in S. Florida, various immigrant groups get all upset.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625146</id>
	<title>TJ Maxx Slogan</title>
	<author>corruptblitz</author>
	<datestamp>1269613860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"You get the max (sentance) for the minimum at TJ Maxx!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" You get the max ( sentance ) for the minimum at TJ Maxx !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"You get the max (sentance) for the minimum at TJ Maxx!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625304</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269614640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, complete bullshit!  It's 2010, can we not deliver good detailed information without being racist!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , complete bullshit !
It 's 2010 , can we not deliver good detailed information without being racist !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, complete bullshit!
It's 2010, can we not deliver good detailed information without being racist!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624950</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624704</id>
	<title>You got my hopes up</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269611460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I misread the first line as "Alberto Gonzalez".</p><p>One can still dream though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I misread the first line as " Alberto Gonzalez " .One can still dream though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I misread the first line as "Alberto Gonzalez".One can still dream though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31633146</id>
	<title>Re:In most countries.....</title>
	<author>saleenS281</author>
	<datestamp>1269600840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So why are the floor traders at enron and most of wallstreet still walking around in public?  They knowingly RUINED the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, not just "many".</htmltext>
<tokenext>So why are the floor traders at enron and most of wallstreet still walking around in public ?
They knowingly RUINED the lives of hundreds of thousands of people , not just " many " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So why are the floor traders at enron and most of wallstreet still walking around in public?
They knowingly RUINED the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, not just "many".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625094</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>nycguy</author>
	<datestamp>1269613680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american?</p></div><p>
Maybe the author didn't want you to think that Gonzalez is a MEXICAN-american...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>so what 's the fucking point of saying he 's CUBAN-american ?
Maybe the author did n't want you to think that Gonzalez is a MEXICAN-american.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american?
Maybe the author didn't want you to think that Gonzalez is a MEXICAN-american...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624950</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625510</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1269615600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>racist fucking bullshit</p></div></blockquote><p>Nah, its politically correct bullshit.  The media has been bitten too often by failing to mention the $NONAMERICAN identifier that many American's think of themselves as, that they now do it reflexively.<br>
&nbsp; <br>In the local paper's websites comment section - I've seen the $NONAMERICAN's bitch and moan and try to have it both ways.  If the paper mentions a $NONAMERICAN was drunk and caused an accident, they bitch (as you do) that the paper is racist for implying $NONAMERICAN's are drunks.  But let a $NONAMERICAN be positively mentioned (Say, winning a local business award) and they bitch about the paper being racist if they <i>fail</i> to mention the subject is a $NONAMERICAN.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>racist fucking bullshitNah , its politically correct bullshit .
The media has been bitten too often by failing to mention the $ NONAMERICAN identifier that many American 's think of themselves as , that they now do it reflexively .
  In the local paper 's websites comment section - I 've seen the $ NONAMERICAN 's bitch and moan and try to have it both ways .
If the paper mentions a $ NONAMERICAN was drunk and caused an accident , they bitch ( as you do ) that the paper is racist for implying $ NONAMERICAN 's are drunks .
But let a $ NONAMERICAN be positively mentioned ( Say , winning a local business award ) and they bitch about the paper being racist if they fail to mention the subject is a $ NONAMERICAN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>racist fucking bullshitNah, its politically correct bullshit.
The media has been bitten too often by failing to mention the $NONAMERICAN identifier that many American's think of themselves as, that they now do it reflexively.
  In the local paper's websites comment section - I've seen the $NONAMERICAN's bitch and moan and try to have it both ways.
If the paper mentions a $NONAMERICAN was drunk and caused an accident, they bitch (as you do) that the paper is racist for implying $NONAMERICAN's are drunks.
But let a $NONAMERICAN be positively mentioned (Say, winning a local business award) and they bitch about the paper being racist if they fail to mention the subject is a $NONAMERICAN.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624782</id>
	<title>As a victim of CC theft I hope this prick rots...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269611880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> Filter error: You can type more than that for your comment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Filter error : You can type more than that for your comment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Filter error: You can type more than that for your comment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31625200</id>
	<title>Re:what the hell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269614160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He's going to spend a lot of the next 20 years living in a cube.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He 's going to spend a lot of the next 20 years living in a cube .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He's going to spend a lot of the next 20 years living in a cube.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31624950</id>
	<title>what the hell?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269612720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"a Cuban-American who was born in Miami"</p><p>meaning: he's an american. he's born here, right?</p><p>so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american? cuban-americans are more prone to cybercrime? what the hell is the significance of saying he's CUBAN-american. oh, a "real" american would never engage in cybercrime? what's that? an irish-american? an italian-american? when an irish-american robs a bank, do we say describe the crime, the sentencing and the criminal as "An Irish-American who was born in Philadelphia". why is that significant information? it's not, it's a racist smear</p><p>oh, it all makes sense now- he's a CUBAN-american: this is important information to relay in the story summary when describing the criminal and the crime</p><p>racist fucking bullshit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" a Cuban-American who was born in Miami " meaning : he 's an american .
he 's born here , right ? so what 's the fucking point of saying he 's CUBAN-american ?
cuban-americans are more prone to cybercrime ?
what the hell is the significance of saying he 's CUBAN-american .
oh , a " real " american would never engage in cybercrime ?
what 's that ?
an irish-american ?
an italian-american ?
when an irish-american robs a bank , do we say describe the crime , the sentencing and the criminal as " An Irish-American who was born in Philadelphia " .
why is that significant information ?
it 's not , it 's a racist smearoh , it all makes sense now- he 's a CUBAN-american : this is important information to relay in the story summary when describing the criminal and the crimeracist fucking bullshit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"a Cuban-American who was born in Miami"meaning: he's an american.
he's born here, right?so what's the fucking point of saying he's CUBAN-american?
cuban-americans are more prone to cybercrime?
what the hell is the significance of saying he's CUBAN-american.
oh, a "real" american would never engage in cybercrime?
what's that?
an irish-american?
an italian-american?
when an irish-american robs a bank, do we say describe the crime, the sentencing and the criminal as "An Irish-American who was born in Philadelphia".
why is that significant information?
it's not, it's a racist smearoh, it all makes sense now- he's a CUBAN-american: this is important information to relay in the story summary when describing the criminal and the crimeracist fucking bullshit</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_124256.31628630</id>
	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>Angst Badger</author>
	<datestamp>1269626820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What's missing here is the fact that TJX didn't take reasonable precautions to protect the data.</p></div><p>Fully agreed. Until there's some serious liability for mis- and non-feasance when it comes to customer data, there's no incentive for these bozos to clean up their act.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>All in all, I still bet this guy has about $10m buried someplace but still 20 years of your life is a very stiff sentence considering a plea bargain as well.</p></div><p>Here I'd disagree. This is being treated as a single offense, but it's actually an offense against millions of victims. If the sentence was proportionate to the offense, this guy would never see daylight again.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's missing here is the fact that TJX did n't take reasonable precautions to protect the data.Fully agreed .
Until there 's some serious liability for mis- and non-feasance when it comes to customer data , there 's no incentive for these bozos to clean up their act.All in all , I still bet this guy has about $ 10m buried someplace but still 20 years of your life is a very stiff sentence considering a plea bargain as well.Here I 'd disagree .
This is being treated as a single offense , but it 's actually an offense against millions of victims .
If the sentence was proportionate to the offense , this guy would never see daylight again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's missing here is the fact that TJX didn't take reasonable precautions to protect the data.Fully agreed.
Until there's some serious liability for mis- and non-feasance when it comes to customer data, there's no incentive for these bozos to clean up their act.All in all, I still bet this guy has about $10m buried someplace but still 20 years of your life is a very stiff sentence considering a plea bargain as well.Here I'd disagree.
This is being treated as a single offense, but it's actually an offense against millions of victims.
If the sentence was proportionate to the offense, this guy would never see daylight again.
	</sentencetext>
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	<title>RACIST</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269615480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"a Cuban American who was born in Miami<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..."</p><p>If he was born in the US he's an American, plain and simple, you dumbass.  Is Slashdot next going to start pointing out every "English American" and "Polish American" and so on for every AMERICAN?  Racist asshole.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" a Cuban American who was born in Miami ... " If he was born in the US he 's an American , plain and simple , you dumbass .
Is Slashdot next going to start pointing out every " English American " and " Polish American " and so on for every AMERICAN ?
Racist asshole .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"a Cuban American who was born in Miami ..."If he was born in the US he's an American, plain and simple, you dumbass.
Is Slashdot next going to start pointing out every "English American" and "Polish American" and so on for every AMERICAN?
Racist asshole.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>captaindomon</author>
	<datestamp>1269617460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>TJX was not in compliance with PCI-DSS, even though they said they were. Thus the fines from Visa. PCI-DSS has issues of course, but if they followed it correctly they would not have suffered this intrusion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>TJX was not in compliance with PCI-DSS , even though they said they were .
Thus the fines from Visa .
PCI-DSS has issues of course , but if they followed it correctly they would not have suffered this intrusion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TJX was not in compliance with PCI-DSS, even though they said they were.
Thus the fines from Visa.
PCI-DSS has issues of course, but if they followed it correctly they would not have suffered this intrusion.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:TJX Case</title>
	<author>Jawn98685</author>
	<datestamp>1269614340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>Disclosure: I was one of the victims of this breach. Happily, my bank caught it and called to ask if it was really me who'd bought those gift cards at Wal-Mart. <br>
<br>
mod parent + insightful, for truer words were never spoken. Seriously, someone should have gone to jail for being so negligent with sensitive information like that, and no, it almost certainly was not anyone whose job it was to see to such things. It was, most likely, someone with budget control over that department who "...didn't see the value in being so paranoid about security..."

Look, TJX is still in business, so $41 million probably didn't hurt enough to make that a lesson that would be learned by other businesses. If the negligence had ruined TJX, and landed some VP asses in jail, things would be different. But it didn't, and they're still not. <br>
Maybe there should be a "terms and conditions" document that business, hospitals, anyone who collects and stores sensitive information, should have to sign each time the collect such information, acknowledging their responsibility to safeguard it. Maybe "putting it in writing" every time they add to the database would at least make the legal department take notice.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Disclosure : I was one of the victims of this breach .
Happily , my bank caught it and called to ask if it was really me who 'd bought those gift cards at Wal-Mart .
mod parent + insightful , for truer words were never spoken .
Seriously , someone should have gone to jail for being so negligent with sensitive information like that , and no , it almost certainly was not anyone whose job it was to see to such things .
It was , most likely , someone with budget control over that department who " ...did n't see the value in being so paranoid about security... " Look , TJX is still in business , so $ 41 million probably did n't hurt enough to make that a lesson that would be learned by other businesses .
If the negligence had ruined TJX , and landed some VP asses in jail , things would be different .
But it did n't , and they 're still not .
Maybe there should be a " terms and conditions " document that business , hospitals , anyone who collects and stores sensitive information , should have to sign each time the collect such information , acknowledging their responsibility to safeguard it .
Maybe " putting it in writing " every time they add to the database would at least make the legal department take notice .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disclosure: I was one of the victims of this breach.
Happily, my bank caught it and called to ask if it was really me who'd bought those gift cards at Wal-Mart.
mod parent + insightful, for truer words were never spoken.
Seriously, someone should have gone to jail for being so negligent with sensitive information like that, and no, it almost certainly was not anyone whose job it was to see to such things.
It was, most likely, someone with budget control over that department who "...didn't see the value in being so paranoid about security..."

Look, TJX is still in business, so $41 million probably didn't hurt enough to make that a lesson that would be learned by other businesses.
If the negligence had ruined TJX, and landed some VP asses in jail, things would be different.
But it didn't, and they're still not.
Maybe there should be a "terms and conditions" document that business, hospitals, anyone who collects and stores sensitive information, should have to sign each time the collect such information, acknowledging their responsibility to safeguard it.
Maybe "putting it in writing" every time they add to the database would at least make the legal department take notice.</sentencetext>
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