<article>
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	<title>EA Editor Criticizes <em>Command &amp; Conquer 4</em> DRM</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1269599340000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><em>Command &amp; Conquer 4</em>'s DRM hasn't garnered Electronic Arts as much bad press and fan outrage as Ubisoft's scheme, despite being very similar. Nevertheless, it's been <a href="http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/c-and-c4-drm-causing-problems">causing problems and frustrations</a> for some users, including EA.com's own editor-in-chief, Jeff Green. An anonymous reader points this out:
<i>"Green wrote on his Twitter account late last week: '<a href="http://www.neoseeker.com/news/13423-ea-editor-criticizes-command-conquer-4-drm/">Booted twice &mdash; and progress lost</a> &mdash; on my single-player <em>C&amp;C4</em> game because my DSL connection blinked. DRM fail. We need new solutions.' He continued later, 'Well. I've tried to be open-minded. But my 'net connection is finicky &mdash; and the constant disruption of my <em>C&amp;C4</em> SP game makes this unplayable. The story is fun, the gameplay is interesting and different at least &mdash; but if you suffer from shaky/unreliable DSL &mdash; you've been warned.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Command &amp; Conquer 4 's DRM has n't garnered Electronic Arts as much bad press and fan outrage as Ubisoft 's scheme , despite being very similar .
Nevertheless , it 's been causing problems and frustrations for some users , including EA.com 's own editor-in-chief , Jeff Green .
An anonymous reader points this out : " Green wrote on his Twitter account late last week : 'Booted twice    and progress lost    on my single-player C&amp;C4 game because my DSL connection blinked .
DRM fail .
We need new solutions .
' He continued later , 'Well .
I 've tried to be open-minded .
But my 'net connection is finicky    and the constant disruption of my C&amp;C4 SP game makes this unplayable .
The story is fun , the gameplay is interesting and different at least    but if you suffer from shaky/unreliable DSL    you 've been warned .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Command &amp; Conquer 4's DRM hasn't garnered Electronic Arts as much bad press and fan outrage as Ubisoft's scheme, despite being very similar.
Nevertheless, it's been causing problems and frustrations for some users, including EA.com's own editor-in-chief, Jeff Green.
An anonymous reader points this out:
"Green wrote on his Twitter account late last week: 'Booted twice — and progress lost — on my single-player C&amp;C4 game because my DSL connection blinked.
DRM fail.
We need new solutions.
' He continued later, 'Well.
I've tried to be open-minded.
But my 'net connection is finicky — and the constant disruption of my C&amp;C4 SP game makes this unplayable.
The story is fun, the gameplay is interesting and different at least — but if you suffer from shaky/unreliable DSL — you've been warned.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624292</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1269608400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not heavily pirated and publicized.   I have a friend with a PS3 and a hard drive full of games for it.  There are mod chips out there, you need to know where to look.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not heavily pirated and publicized .
I have a friend with a PS3 and a hard drive full of games for it .
There are mod chips out there , you need to know where to look .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not heavily pirated and publicized.
I have a friend with a PS3 and a hard drive full of games for it.
There are mod chips out there, you need to know where to look.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623806</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Tukz</author>
	<datestamp>1269603900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Xbox360 is heavily pirated you know.<br>So is the Wii.</p><p>The only console that haven't been hacked yet, is the PS3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xbox360 is heavily pirated you know.So is the Wii.The only console that have n't been hacked yet , is the PS3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xbox360 is heavily pirated you know.So is the Wii.The only console that haven't been hacked yet, is the PS3.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625298</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>CastrTroy</author>
	<datestamp>1269614640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm still waiting for the next batch of Console to come around with no disc slot.  Everything gets downloaded over the internet.  Possible some proprietary media that works via flash memory.  No input ports, not expansion ports, just wireless controllers, and downloadable games.  Kind of like the PSP GO, but a full fledged console.  It's the only way to make it so that you can't pirate games.  I'm not sure if it would fly, but if the big 3 all did it, you wouldn't have much of a choice, except to not play.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still waiting for the next batch of Console to come around with no disc slot .
Everything gets downloaded over the internet .
Possible some proprietary media that works via flash memory .
No input ports , not expansion ports , just wireless controllers , and downloadable games .
Kind of like the PSP GO , but a full fledged console .
It 's the only way to make it so that you ca n't pirate games .
I 'm not sure if it would fly , but if the big 3 all did it , you would n't have much of a choice , except to not play .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still waiting for the next batch of Console to come around with no disc slot.
Everything gets downloaded over the internet.
Possible some proprietary media that works via flash memory.
No input ports, not expansion ports, just wireless controllers, and downloadable games.
Kind of like the PSP GO, but a full fledged console.
It's the only way to make it so that you can't pirate games.
I'm not sure if it would fly, but if the big 3 all did it, you wouldn't have much of a choice, except to not play.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623788</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623838</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1269604200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Interesting. I, however, will be continuing to play open source games which do not require me to buy an entire new computer just to play them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Interesting .
I , however , will be continuing to play open source games which do not require me to buy an entire new computer just to play them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Interesting.
I, however, will be continuing to play open source games which do not require me to buy an entire new computer just to play them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625832</id>
	<title>Excellent, Rational review</title>
	<author>gadlaw</author>
	<datestamp>1269616980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, this isn't a rant and it provides a rational review of what is a unmitigated disaster. I'm a C&amp;C fan and I won't be buying this one. I don't buy DRMed games, especially ones as horrible as this one. It's funny, you take the best and most loved franchises and you give us this sort of crap. Outstanding. But they are weaning me off of games, except for the old standbys I have my copies of. And of course, I'll be open to buying it when the DRM is legally stripped out of it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , this is n't a rant and it provides a rational review of what is a unmitigated disaster .
I 'm a C&amp;C fan and I wo n't be buying this one .
I do n't buy DRMed games , especially ones as horrible as this one .
It 's funny , you take the best and most loved franchises and you give us this sort of crap .
Outstanding. But they are weaning me off of games , except for the old standbys I have my copies of .
And of course , I 'll be open to buying it when the DRM is legally stripped out of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, this isn't a rant and it provides a rational review of what is a unmitigated disaster.
I'm a C&amp;C fan and I won't be buying this one.
I don't buy DRMed games, especially ones as horrible as this one.
It's funny, you take the best and most loved franchises and you give us this sort of crap.
Outstanding. But they are weaning me off of games, except for the old standbys I have my copies of.
And of course, I'll be open to buying it when the DRM is legally stripped out of it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624276</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625696</id>
	<title>Re:One of the reasons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269616380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...why i am losing interest in games rapidly.</p></div></blockquote><blockquote><div><p>Then again, maybe it is just me getting older, having kids, etc.</p></div></blockquote><p>This...</p><p>At this point if I need my RTS fix, I either play a freebie like Warzone 2100 or load up Command and Conquer: The First Decade.</p><p>I don't need fancy graphics to blow stuff up, turtle, and rush. And I don't need the bullshit that EA is pushing. I'm a 42 year old software engineer with disposable income, and if they want my business they're going to have to stop ass-raping me every time I buy one of their titles.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...why i am losing interest in games rapidly.Then again , maybe it is just me getting older , having kids , etc.This...At this point if I need my RTS fix , I either play a freebie like Warzone 2100 or load up Command and Conquer : The First Decade.I do n't need fancy graphics to blow stuff up , turtle , and rush .
And I do n't need the bullshit that EA is pushing .
I 'm a 42 year old software engineer with disposable income , and if they want my business they 're going to have to stop ass-raping me every time I buy one of their titles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...why i am losing interest in games rapidly.Then again, maybe it is just me getting older, having kids, etc.This...At this point if I need my RTS fix, I either play a freebie like Warzone 2100 or load up Command and Conquer: The First Decade.I don't need fancy graphics to blow stuff up, turtle, and rush.
And I don't need the bullshit that EA is pushing.
I'm a 42 year old software engineer with disposable income, and if they want my business they're going to have to stop ass-raping me every time I buy one of their titles.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623906</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623740</id>
	<title>Give that man a new job</title>
	<author>santax</author>
	<datestamp>1269603120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because A) he is surprisingly honest and B) he will be needing one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because A ) he is surprisingly honest and B ) he will be needing one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because A) he is surprisingly honest and B) he will be needing one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624858</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1269612300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People have literally been saying this for 20+ years.  Quit being silly, it's just not going to happen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People have literally been saying this for 20 + years .
Quit being silly , it 's just not going to happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People have literally been saying this for 20+ years.
Quit being silly, it's just not going to happen.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623754</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623986</id>
	<title>Re:Give that man a new job</title>
	<author>Swifti</author>
	<datestamp>1269605940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Jeff Green used to be part of 1UP's editorial team as a former video games journalist. Very frank guy, very funny guy. Even if he gets fired from EA because of this, which I doubt, there are tons of games publications needing an accomplished and insightful editor or game publishers wanting Jeff's charisma for their public/community relations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Jeff Green used to be part of 1UP 's editorial team as a former video games journalist .
Very frank guy , very funny guy .
Even if he gets fired from EA because of this , which I doubt , there are tons of games publications needing an accomplished and insightful editor or game publishers wanting Jeff 's charisma for their public/community relations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jeff Green used to be part of 1UP's editorial team as a former video games journalist.
Very frank guy, very funny guy.
Even if he gets fired from EA because of this, which I doubt, there are tons of games publications needing an accomplished and insightful editor or game publishers wanting Jeff's charisma for their public/community relations.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623740</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31631452</id>
	<title>Don't buy these games</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269637080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is this really that hard to understand?<br>If they want to screw you, do not buy the game.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is this really that hard to understand ? If they want to screw you , do not buy the game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is this really that hard to understand?If they want to screw you, do not buy the game.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625312</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>jockeys</author>
	<datestamp>1269614640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>thanks for the review</htmltext>
<tokenext>thanks for the review</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thanks for the review</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624276</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624142</id>
	<title>Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Animal Crossing</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1269607320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>With an Xbox Controller and HDMI output, I can play Batman, GTA, etc. on my HDTV, sitting on my couch, with (far) better graphics than on any so-called Next-gen console.</p></div><p>Does your "etc." include proper counterparts to Super Smash Bros. series, Mario Kart series, and Animal Crossing series? I'd like to know what PC games you recommend for fans of these Nintendo-exclusive franchises.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>With an Xbox Controller and HDMI output , I can play Batman , GTA , etc .
on my HDTV , sitting on my couch , with ( far ) better graphics than on any so-called Next-gen console.Does your " etc .
" include proper counterparts to Super Smash Bros. series , Mario Kart series , and Animal Crossing series ?
I 'd like to know what PC games you recommend for fans of these Nintendo-exclusive franchises .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With an Xbox Controller and HDMI output, I can play Batman, GTA, etc.
on my HDTV, sitting on my couch, with (far) better graphics than on any so-called Next-gen console.Does your "etc.
" include proper counterparts to Super Smash Bros. series, Mario Kart series, and Animal Crossing series?
I'd like to know what PC games you recommend for fans of these Nintendo-exclusive franchises.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623930</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624848</id>
	<title>Re:Dont worry Green, solution is coming</title>
	<author>Spad</author>
	<datestamp>1269612300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Reloaded <a href="http://www.rlslog.net/command-and-conquer-4-tiberian-twilight-reloaded/" title="rlslog.net">beat them to it</a> [rlslog.net]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reloaded beat them to it [ rlslog.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reloaded beat them to it [rlslog.net]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624030</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625448</id>
	<title>Re:Give that man a new job</title>
	<author>GeckoAddict</author>
	<datestamp>1269615240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can his new job be a promotion to the DRM consultant for EA?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can his new job be a promotion to the DRM consultant for EA ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can his new job be a promotion to the DRM consultant for EA?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623740</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624794</id>
	<title>Re:Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Animal Crossing</title>
	<author>loutr</author>
	<datestamp>1269611940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Does your "etc." include proper counterparts to Super Smash Bros. series, Mario Kart series, and Animal Crossing series?</p></div><p>No*, that's the reason I've got a Wii<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;) As Nedlohs says, I was comparing PCs to PS3 (and Xbox 360, as they are very similar).
</p><p>I only use the Wii when friends come over, for solo and online play I use the PC.


</p><p>*SFIV and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7DbKcs35mo" title="youtube.com">Trackmania</a> [youtube.com] could be viable alternatives though. Trackmania wii is coming out soon, you should check it out if you haven't played it yet. <a href="http://www.trackmania.com/index.php?rub=downloads" title="trackmania.com">Trackmania Nations</a> [trackmania.com] is free, it's awesome on a big screen TV, very (very) fast and still looks good. The only downside is that there's no split-screen on the PC version.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does your " etc .
" include proper counterparts to Super Smash Bros. series , Mario Kart series , and Animal Crossing series ? No * , that 's the reason I 've got a Wii ; ) As Nedlohs says , I was comparing PCs to PS3 ( and Xbox 360 , as they are very similar ) .
I only use the Wii when friends come over , for solo and online play I use the PC .
* SFIV and Trackmania [ youtube.com ] could be viable alternatives though .
Trackmania wii is coming out soon , you should check it out if you have n't played it yet .
Trackmania Nations [ trackmania.com ] is free , it 's awesome on a big screen TV , very ( very ) fast and still looks good .
The only downside is that there 's no split-screen on the PC version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does your "etc.
" include proper counterparts to Super Smash Bros. series, Mario Kart series, and Animal Crossing series?No*, that's the reason I've got a Wii ;) As Nedlohs says, I was comparing PCs to PS3 (and Xbox 360, as they are very similar).
I only use the Wii when friends come over, for solo and online play I use the PC.
*SFIV and Trackmania [youtube.com] could be viable alternatives though.
Trackmania wii is coming out soon, you should check it out if you haven't played it yet.
Trackmania Nations [trackmania.com] is free, it's awesome on a big screen TV, very (very) fast and still looks good.
The only downside is that there's no split-screen on the PC version.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625326</id>
	<title>No net at all</title>
	<author>Nephrite</author>
	<datestamp>1269614760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep windows on my box only for games. I purposefully switched off all network in order keep the viruses out. So now I will not able to play. Thanks. And to think of it, I've legitimatrly bought all C&amp;C series games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep windows on my box only for games .
I purposefully switched off all network in order keep the viruses out .
So now I will not able to play .
Thanks. And to think of it , I 've legitimatrly bought all C&amp;C series games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep windows on my box only for games.
I purposefully switched off all network in order keep the viruses out.
So now I will not able to play.
Thanks. And to think of it, I've legitimatrly bought all C&amp;C series games.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31626454</id>
	<title>This DRM makes no sense whatsoever</title>
	<author>EnsilZah</author>
	<datestamp>1269619020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Disregarding the various moral, philosophical, first-sale doctrine stuff for a moment.<br>This thing makes absolutely no practical sense for EA.<br>The one thing DRM has going for it, from the publisher's point of view, is preventing some guy who bought the game from putting it in the drive and making a few copies for his friends, in the hope that they might buy when that option is unavailable.<br>Now there's been DRM that's been able to do that for years.<br>Once someone is committed enough to install something like Alcohol 120\% or look for the cracked game online the game is over for DRM.</p><p>All a publisher can gain from more draconian DRM is maybe buy themselves a few more days, at the cost of dissatisfaction from customers and now apparently upkeep for servers.<br>Once the crackers have access to the files it's a matter of personal pride to prove how clever they are, and there will be someone motivated enough and clever enough to break this thing that the publisher spent developers, time, money on, and will have to do so again next time.</p><p>So I really don't see an economic reason they would do this.<br>Am I missing something or are they just misinformed or just wanting to appear as if they're doing something to keep the stockholders at bay?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Disregarding the various moral , philosophical , first-sale doctrine stuff for a moment.This thing makes absolutely no practical sense for EA.The one thing DRM has going for it , from the publisher 's point of view , is preventing some guy who bought the game from putting it in the drive and making a few copies for his friends , in the hope that they might buy when that option is unavailable.Now there 's been DRM that 's been able to do that for years.Once someone is committed enough to install something like Alcohol 120 \ % or look for the cracked game online the game is over for DRM.All a publisher can gain from more draconian DRM is maybe buy themselves a few more days , at the cost of dissatisfaction from customers and now apparently upkeep for servers.Once the crackers have access to the files it 's a matter of personal pride to prove how clever they are , and there will be someone motivated enough and clever enough to break this thing that the publisher spent developers , time , money on , and will have to do so again next time.So I really do n't see an economic reason they would do this.Am I missing something or are they just misinformed or just wanting to appear as if they 're doing something to keep the stockholders at bay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Disregarding the various moral, philosophical, first-sale doctrine stuff for a moment.This thing makes absolutely no practical sense for EA.The one thing DRM has going for it, from the publisher's point of view, is preventing some guy who bought the game from putting it in the drive and making a few copies for his friends, in the hope that they might buy when that option is unavailable.Now there's been DRM that's been able to do that for years.Once someone is committed enough to install something like Alcohol 120\% or look for the cracked game online the game is over for DRM.All a publisher can gain from more draconian DRM is maybe buy themselves a few more days, at the cost of dissatisfaction from customers and now apparently upkeep for servers.Once the crackers have access to the files it's a matter of personal pride to prove how clever they are, and there will be someone motivated enough and clever enough to break this thing that the publisher spent developers, time, money on, and will have to do so again next time.So I really don't see an economic reason they would do this.Am I missing something or are they just misinformed or just wanting to appear as if they're doing something to keep the stockholders at bay?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625184</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>commodore64\_love</author>
	<datestamp>1269614040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've considered computer gaming dead for awhile now.   When my Amiga passed-away as a viable gaming platform (due to lack of games), and I switched to PC, I quickly discovered what a royal pain in the ass it was to make the sound &amp; graphics drivers work.</p><p>And if it's a pain for me, an engineer, imagine what it's like for the average customer.  This is why consoles have come to be the dominant gaming platform with almost 200 million PS2s/Xboxes/Gamecubes/Dreamcasts sold previous generation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've considered computer gaming dead for awhile now .
When my Amiga passed-away as a viable gaming platform ( due to lack of games ) , and I switched to PC , I quickly discovered what a royal pain in the ass it was to make the sound &amp; graphics drivers work.And if it 's a pain for me , an engineer , imagine what it 's like for the average customer .
This is why consoles have come to be the dominant gaming platform with almost 200 million PS2s/Xboxes/Gamecubes/Dreamcasts sold previous generation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've considered computer gaming dead for awhile now.
When my Amiga passed-away as a viable gaming platform (due to lack of games), and I switched to PC, I quickly discovered what a royal pain in the ass it was to make the sound &amp; graphics drivers work.And if it's a pain for me, an engineer, imagine what it's like for the average customer.
This is why consoles have come to be the dominant gaming platform with almost 200 million PS2s/Xboxes/Gamecubes/Dreamcasts sold previous generation.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624614</id>
	<title>Re:market tools vs. EULA</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1269610860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not sure about your jurisdiction, but in the UK they can not legally refuse the return, as long as all of the original packaging is there.  Ask to talk to the manager, keep repeating your complaint loudly enough for other people to hear it, and refuse to leave.  Suggest that if they want you to leave that they should call the police, who will be able to explain the relevant law to them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not sure about your jurisdiction , but in the UK they can not legally refuse the return , as long as all of the original packaging is there .
Ask to talk to the manager , keep repeating your complaint loudly enough for other people to hear it , and refuse to leave .
Suggest that if they want you to leave that they should call the police , who will be able to explain the relevant law to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not sure about your jurisdiction, but in the UK they can not legally refuse the return, as long as all of the original packaging is there.
Ask to talk to the manager, keep repeating your complaint loudly enough for other people to hear it, and refuse to leave.
Suggest that if they want you to leave that they should call the police, who will be able to explain the relevant law to them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624146</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269607380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt; a console or two for gaming and a PC for work<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... The Crysis of Capitalism will be over!</p><p>Fixed that for you.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; a console or two for gaming and a PC for work ... The Crysis of Capitalism will be over ! Fixed that for you .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt; a console or two for gaming and a PC for work ... The Crysis of Capitalism will be over!Fixed that for you.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624696</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269611400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's because nobody owns one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's because nobody owns one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's because nobody owns one.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624340</id>
	<title>Good for him....</title>
	<author>CFBMoo1</author>
	<datestamp>1269608880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't have this problem, I haven't been buying new games at all. They just aren't worth the price to me and yet I can't get enough of old games I can fire up under Wine or Dosbox.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't have this problem , I have n't been buying new games at all .
They just are n't worth the price to me and yet I ca n't get enough of old games I can fire up under Wine or Dosbox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't have this problem, I haven't been buying new games at all.
They just aren't worth the price to me and yet I can't get enough of old games I can fire up under Wine or Dosbox.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31627248</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1269622260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Although this also brings us back to the "golden age" of gaming on my 286.</p><p>Where you had to FIGHT to get the game to even work. Playing with batch files, EMS and XMS memory, loading with 15 floppy disks, etc... Seriously I think it was the messing around with computers to get them to even play games which is what got me interested in computers in the first place, which led to my education path, and presently my work environment....</p><p>Wait a tick. I take all the nostalgia back. Burn it all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Although this also brings us back to the " golden age " of gaming on my 286.Where you had to FIGHT to get the game to even work .
Playing with batch files , EMS and XMS memory , loading with 15 floppy disks , etc... Seriously I think it was the messing around with computers to get them to even play games which is what got me interested in computers in the first place , which led to my education path , and presently my work environment....Wait a tick .
I take all the nostalgia back .
Burn it all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although this also brings us back to the "golden age" of gaming on my 286.Where you had to FIGHT to get the game to even work.
Playing with batch files, EMS and XMS memory, loading with 15 floppy disks, etc... Seriously I think it was the messing around with computers to get them to even play games which is what got me interested in computers in the first place, which led to my education path, and presently my work environment....Wait a tick.
I take all the nostalgia back.
Burn it all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624136</id>
	<title>Not fit for purpose.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269607260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>mod points...anoning

</p><p>In Aus, if this style of DRM really is this flaky, it has got to be getting pretty close to "not fit for purpose" under trade practice laws. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian\_Competition\_and\_Consumer\_Commission" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">ACCC</a> [wikipedia.org] has used this against DVD manufacturers, re: regional coding.

</p><p>Any Aussies who have bought this game, and had this problem, make a complaint to the ACCC. All of you. For every title with DRM like this. Only when they can see a pattern of complaints that drifts above the general background hum of whinging will someone look closely enough to say, "hey, wtf?", and bring it to a higher-up. The squeaky wheel etc and so on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>mod points...anoning In Aus , if this style of DRM really is this flaky , it has got to be getting pretty close to " not fit for purpose " under trade practice laws .
The ACCC [ wikipedia.org ] has used this against DVD manufacturers , re : regional coding .
Any Aussies who have bought this game , and had this problem , make a complaint to the ACCC .
All of you .
For every title with DRM like this .
Only when they can see a pattern of complaints that drifts above the general background hum of whinging will someone look closely enough to say , " hey , wtf ?
" , and bring it to a higher-up .
The squeaky wheel etc and so on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>mod points...anoning

In Aus, if this style of DRM really is this flaky, it has got to be getting pretty close to "not fit for purpose" under trade practice laws.
The ACCC [wikipedia.org] has used this against DVD manufacturers, re: regional coding.
Any Aussies who have bought this game, and had this problem, make a complaint to the ACCC.
All of you.
For every title with DRM like this.
Only when they can see a pattern of complaints that drifts above the general background hum of whinging will someone look closely enough to say, "hey, wtf?
", and bring it to a higher-up.
The squeaky wheel etc and so on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625128</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269613800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.</i></p><p>Why would there be more problems now than any other time in computer gaming history? There has always been piracy; it was sneakernet and BBSes before the internet came along. The difference is, back in the days of the floppy when Duke Nukem was a squeaky little side scroller, gamers revolted and stopped buying games with any sort of DRM, and DRM went away -- for a decade or two.</p><p><b>Piracy does not cost anybody</b> and actually can cause a company to make even more money, by getting the word out that it's a kickass game. The only people who pirate are those who just want to try it out, and they'll buy it if it's good, and the rest of the pirates aren't going to buy the game anyway and wouldn't even if it was impossible to pirate it, so there aren't any lost sales to pirates. But pirates help sales when their non-pirate friends see the game.</p><p>The kicker is, for piracy to help sales of a game, the game has to be good, as opposed to being a piece of shit that the publisher bribes gaming magazines to lie about. Bad games that shouldn't even be on the market are the only ones that piracy will hurt, because the pirates will let everyone know that the game is shit.</p><p>If you believe the bullshit the RIAA, MPAA, and BSA spew, I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in buying. DRM only helps games, movies, and music that suck anyway; good media will sell regardless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform , there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.Why would there be more problems now than any other time in computer gaming history ?
There has always been piracy ; it was sneakernet and BBSes before the internet came along .
The difference is , back in the days of the floppy when Duke Nukem was a squeaky little side scroller , gamers revolted and stopped buying games with any sort of DRM , and DRM went away -- for a decade or two.Piracy does not cost anybody and actually can cause a company to make even more money , by getting the word out that it 's a kickass game .
The only people who pirate are those who just want to try it out , and they 'll buy it if it 's good , and the rest of the pirates are n't going to buy the game anyway and would n't even if it was impossible to pirate it , so there are n't any lost sales to pirates .
But pirates help sales when their non-pirate friends see the game.The kicker is , for piracy to help sales of a game , the game has to be good , as opposed to being a piece of shit that the publisher bribes gaming magazines to lie about .
Bad games that should n't even be on the market are the only ones that piracy will hurt , because the pirates will let everyone know that the game is shit.If you believe the bullshit the RIAA , MPAA , and BSA spew , I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in buying .
DRM only helps games , movies , and music that suck anyway ; good media will sell regardless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.Why would there be more problems now than any other time in computer gaming history?
There has always been piracy; it was sneakernet and BBSes before the internet came along.
The difference is, back in the days of the floppy when Duke Nukem was a squeaky little side scroller, gamers revolted and stopped buying games with any sort of DRM, and DRM went away -- for a decade or two.Piracy does not cost anybody and actually can cause a company to make even more money, by getting the word out that it's a kickass game.
The only people who pirate are those who just want to try it out, and they'll buy it if it's good, and the rest of the pirates aren't going to buy the game anyway and wouldn't even if it was impossible to pirate it, so there aren't any lost sales to pirates.
But pirates help sales when their non-pirate friends see the game.The kicker is, for piracy to help sales of a game, the game has to be good, as opposed to being a piece of shit that the publisher bribes gaming magazines to lie about.
Bad games that shouldn't even be on the market are the only ones that piracy will hurt, because the pirates will let everyone know that the game is shit.If you believe the bullshit the RIAA, MPAA, and BSA spew, I have a nice bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in buying.
DRM only helps games, movies, and music that suck anyway; good media will sell regardless.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623824</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269604020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah...because console games never get pirated, right shill?</p><p>The game industry(the suit and tie part of it) would love nothing more than to lock everyone into shitty consoles for games, where they can be nickle and dime'd to death without choice.</p><p>I say FUCK THAT. I'd rather quit playing all together and watch your house of cards fall in epic fashion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah...because console games never get pirated , right shill ? The game industry ( the suit and tie part of it ) would love nothing more than to lock everyone into shitty consoles for games , where they can be nickle and dime 'd to death without choice.I say FUCK THAT .
I 'd rather quit playing all together and watch your house of cards fall in epic fashion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah...because console games never get pirated, right shill?The game industry(the suit and tie part of it) would love nothing more than to lock everyone into shitty consoles for games, where they can be nickle and dime'd to death without choice.I say FUCK THAT.
I'd rather quit playing all together and watch your house of cards fall in epic fashion.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623860</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269604380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"too-open platform of PCs."</p><p>Damn you're horribly misinformed.  Security through obscurity never works and DRM is the gaming industry shooting themselves in the foot; they are bitting the hand that feeds.  If the gaming industry wants money, all they have to do is make games that aren't shit.  And lately, that has been an epic fail on there part.  Just yet another reason why the industry is screwing up.  There's nothing like spending millions on a piece of crap that no-one will want.  Not to mention releasing so early, not only is the game itself crap, it's a buggy as all hell as well.  So, a constantly freezing/weird shit going on, piece of crap.</p><p>But, hey.  Why bother with facts.  Let's just do what the gaming industry is doing and blame piracy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" too-open platform of PCs .
" Damn you 're horribly misinformed .
Security through obscurity never works and DRM is the gaming industry shooting themselves in the foot ; they are bitting the hand that feeds .
If the gaming industry wants money , all they have to do is make games that are n't shit .
And lately , that has been an epic fail on there part .
Just yet another reason why the industry is screwing up .
There 's nothing like spending millions on a piece of crap that no-one will want .
Not to mention releasing so early , not only is the game itself crap , it 's a buggy as all hell as well .
So , a constantly freezing/weird shit going on , piece of crap.But , hey .
Why bother with facts .
Let 's just do what the gaming industry is doing and blame piracy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"too-open platform of PCs.
"Damn you're horribly misinformed.
Security through obscurity never works and DRM is the gaming industry shooting themselves in the foot; they are bitting the hand that feeds.
If the gaming industry wants money, all they have to do is make games that aren't shit.
And lately, that has been an epic fail on there part.
Just yet another reason why the industry is screwing up.
There's nothing like spending millions on a piece of crap that no-one will want.
Not to mention releasing so early, not only is the game itself crap, it's a buggy as all hell as well.
So, a constantly freezing/weird shit going on, piece of crap.But, hey.
Why bother with facts.
Let's just do what the gaming industry is doing and blame piracy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31627296</id>
	<title>Re:I haven't had ANY problems with it</title>
	<author>CyberDragon777</author>
	<datestamp>1269622440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>no one has a faster processor or video card that gives them an advantage or an edge in some way</p></div><p>What kind of advantage does a faster CPU/GPU give?</p><p>If your system meets the minimum requirements (display/movement is not lagging) the only difference high-end hardware makes is prettyness. (Not saying that prettyness is not important, just not a competitive advantage.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>no one has a faster processor or video card that gives them an advantage or an edge in some wayWhat kind of advantage does a faster CPU/GPU give ? If your system meets the minimum requirements ( display/movement is not lagging ) the only difference high-end hardware makes is prettyness .
( Not saying that prettyness is not important , just not a competitive advantage .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no one has a faster processor or video card that gives them an advantage or an edge in some wayWhat kind of advantage does a faster CPU/GPU give?If your system meets the minimum requirements (display/movement is not lagging) the only difference high-end hardware makes is prettyness.
(Not saying that prettyness is not important, just not a competitive advantage.
)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31644916</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>rdnetto</author>
	<datestamp>1269709080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Odd, when I had to get mine repaired one of the instructions was to remove the hard drive. So unless you had a dead drive, perhaps the issue was not following instructions?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Odd , when I had to get mine repaired one of the instructions was to remove the hard drive .
So unless you had a dead drive , perhaps the issue was not following instructions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Odd, when I had to get mine repaired one of the instructions was to remove the hard drive.
So unless you had a dead drive, perhaps the issue was not following instructions?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624892</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Svartalf</author>
	<datestamp>1269612480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Piracy's an excuse, not the reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Piracy 's an excuse , not the reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Piracy's an excuse, not the reason.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31626178</id>
	<title>Re:One of the reasons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269618120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"While i can still play games i bought 15 years ago, there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today's games in 15 years."</p><p>There is no guarantee that you can play the game now after buying it.<br>Happened to me 6 times from 10 with the games i bought recently. Either their DRM had problem with some CD software installed, anti-virus installed or just plainly didn't like my DVD drive model (low level driver stuff).</p><p>Frankly, buying a modern game recently is a big risk for me. And my experience with getting support are mostly negative. The reason is, probably, that the way DRM can mess up with your system configuration are so many, that there really isn't a way to support all the issues in a timely matter (for the support team), which leaves you with bought but unplayable game.<br>I find it also amusing that in order to satisfy the DRM system, I had to disable the ant-virus solution completely (with firewall) which leaves me exposed to internet without any protection. In the recent history you could just unplug the internet and play disconnected, now you are also required to be connected to internet. Malware here I come<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-DD Yeah its sad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" While i can still play games i bought 15 years ago , there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today 's games in 15 years .
" There is no guarantee that you can play the game now after buying it.Happened to me 6 times from 10 with the games i bought recently .
Either their DRM had problem with some CD software installed , anti-virus installed or just plainly did n't like my DVD drive model ( low level driver stuff ) .Frankly , buying a modern game recently is a big risk for me .
And my experience with getting support are mostly negative .
The reason is , probably , that the way DRM can mess up with your system configuration are so many , that there really is n't a way to support all the issues in a timely matter ( for the support team ) , which leaves you with bought but unplayable game.I find it also amusing that in order to satisfy the DRM system , I had to disable the ant-virus solution completely ( with firewall ) which leaves me exposed to internet without any protection .
In the recent history you could just unplug the internet and play disconnected , now you are also required to be connected to internet .
Malware here I come : -DD Yeah its sad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"While i can still play games i bought 15 years ago, there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today's games in 15 years.
"There is no guarantee that you can play the game now after buying it.Happened to me 6 times from 10 with the games i bought recently.
Either their DRM had problem with some CD software installed, anti-virus installed or just plainly didn't like my DVD drive model (low level driver stuff).Frankly, buying a modern game recently is a big risk for me.
And my experience with getting support are mostly negative.
The reason is, probably, that the way DRM can mess up with your system configuration are so many, that there really isn't a way to support all the issues in a timely matter (for the support team), which leaves you with bought but unplayable game.I find it also amusing that in order to satisfy the DRM system, I had to disable the ant-virus solution completely (with firewall) which leaves me exposed to internet without any protection.
In the recent history you could just unplug the internet and play disconnected, now you are also required to be connected to internet.
Malware here I come :-DD Yeah its sad.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31631746</id>
	<title>Re:Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Animal Crossing</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269595080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The dolphin emulator, plays wii games in HD. Something the real wii can't even manage.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The dolphin emulator , plays wii games in HD .
Something the real wii ca n't even manage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The dolphin emulator, plays wii games in HD.
Something the real wii can't even manage.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624032</id>
	<title>market tools vs. EULA</title>
	<author>muckracer</author>
	<datestamp>1269606360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; the constant disruption of my C&amp;C4 SP game makes this unplayable</p><p>So how is the producer of the game get the message via free market tools, when EULA's as well as store policies prohibit the return of 'opened' games? From what I can tell for at least this user above the product is clearly defective. It relies on the non-defectiveness of things outside the package, such as his ISP etc.. Yet I am sure they will not give him a return/refund because they'll disagree about the defectiveness of the game. But is this even enforcible? I'd say, something like this needs to go to court eventually!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; the constant disruption of my C&amp;C4 SP game makes this unplayableSo how is the producer of the game get the message via free market tools , when EULA 's as well as store policies prohibit the return of 'opened ' games ?
From what I can tell for at least this user above the product is clearly defective .
It relies on the non-defectiveness of things outside the package , such as his ISP etc.. Yet I am sure they will not give him a return/refund because they 'll disagree about the defectiveness of the game .
But is this even enforcible ?
I 'd say , something like this needs to go to court eventually !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; the constant disruption of my C&amp;C4 SP game makes this unplayableSo how is the producer of the game get the message via free market tools, when EULA's as well as store policies prohibit the return of 'opened' games?
From what I can tell for at least this user above the product is clearly defective.
It relies on the non-defectiveness of things outside the package, such as his ISP etc.. Yet I am sure they will not give him a return/refund because they'll disagree about the defectiveness of the game.
But is this even enforcible?
I'd say, something like this needs to go to court eventually!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624276</id>
	<title>I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>RogueyWon</author>
	<datestamp>1269608340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been stung by this one. There was little (or in fact no) warning in advance of release that the copy protection would take this form and, as this was an EA rather than an Ubisoft game, I didn't assume that it would. So, like a fool, I went and placed a pre-order with an electronic-only retailer.</p><p>Of course, the release day comes and various forums explode with news of the DRM. I had already made a decision not to buy any games with Ubisoft-style DRM... and now find myself accidentally in breach of that. I try to get a refund... and fail.</p><p>After a few days of unsuccessfully trying for a refund, I give up. I say "ok, I'll see for myself just how bad this is". So I pass up any lingering hopes of a refund and download and install the game. Just getting the launcher to start up is a hassle, as there are assorted known issues with it. Eventually, I figure out that I have to manually update the EA Download Manager (an entirely separate piece of software) before the game will run. Having done all of this, and created an account, I click the button to try to play the game. And get told that the DRM client "cannot connect to the internet". I check my net connection; no problems - I've had an IRC client running the whole time with no interruptions. Ok, maybe it's a router problem... nope, everything's fine there. I check a few forums and find that the solution is "keep trying, it works eventually."</p><p>Ok, so I do this. On the 7th or 8th try, it succeeds in logging in (so yes, it's just an inappropriate error message). The game starts, and I marvel at how retro and primative everything feels. Yes, it's defaulted my graphics to 800x600, despite the fact that pretty much every other game around these days will default to my desktop resolution and take a stab at estimating my graphics settings. Ok, no big deal, it only takes a few minutes to change things.</p><p>So, time to start the game. I'm only interested in the singleplayer campaign. I don't tend to play non-subscription games online these days; I've long since gotten sick of tolerating the 14 year old pottymouths who infest pretty much any other kind of online play. So you can imagine how delighted I am to find myself in a chatroom full of said lowlifes... on the singleplayer campaign menu. Yes, while I try to read the mission briefing, I have a window open below it full of idiot children amusing themselves in the usual way. Clicking past that, I get into the mission.</p><p>I knew from the pre-release reviews (none of which mentioned the DRM) that the C&amp;C gameplay had been radically altered; that base building had gone. I hadn't been massively enthused by this, but I'd decided to give it a go. After all, I got plenty of enjoyment out of Dawn of War 2 and its expansion, even though I would have preferred they stuck to the traditional RTS approach. Anyway, the first couple of C&amp;C4 missions are tutorial type things, which is fine. I'm already starting to worry that we've lost some gameplay depth, but now I've committed my money, I'm determined to give it a go. The first two tutorials are over very quickly. I get into the third, and notice that while it's still a tutorial, it's a good bit longer. 15 minutes into it... disconnected from the server... progress lost.</p><p>Fantastic.</p><p>It takes me 10 minutes to manage to log into EA's servers again (and this isn't launch day, but several days later). When I get back in, I manage to complete that mission. I then get into the game proper, and choose my faction. Starting the first proper mission (for the Nod faction) my worries about the gameplay really start to grow. There's no robustness to the micro-level combat. You're just dragging a force around from one waypoint to the next. Mid-mission, my objective changes abruptly, from conquest to escort. Before I've really cottoned on to this, the vehicles I'm supposed to escort have wandered off and been destroyed. So I revert to a mid-mission save, and go again. This time, I'm ready for the objective switch. I escort the units across the map. Just as they're a</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been stung by this one .
There was little ( or in fact no ) warning in advance of release that the copy protection would take this form and , as this was an EA rather than an Ubisoft game , I did n't assume that it would .
So , like a fool , I went and placed a pre-order with an electronic-only retailer.Of course , the release day comes and various forums explode with news of the DRM .
I had already made a decision not to buy any games with Ubisoft-style DRM... and now find myself accidentally in breach of that .
I try to get a refund... and fail.After a few days of unsuccessfully trying for a refund , I give up .
I say " ok , I 'll see for myself just how bad this is " .
So I pass up any lingering hopes of a refund and download and install the game .
Just getting the launcher to start up is a hassle , as there are assorted known issues with it .
Eventually , I figure out that I have to manually update the EA Download Manager ( an entirely separate piece of software ) before the game will run .
Having done all of this , and created an account , I click the button to try to play the game .
And get told that the DRM client " can not connect to the internet " .
I check my net connection ; no problems - I 've had an IRC client running the whole time with no interruptions .
Ok , maybe it 's a router problem... nope , everything 's fine there .
I check a few forums and find that the solution is " keep trying , it works eventually .
" Ok , so I do this .
On the 7th or 8th try , it succeeds in logging in ( so yes , it 's just an inappropriate error message ) .
The game starts , and I marvel at how retro and primative everything feels .
Yes , it 's defaulted my graphics to 800x600 , despite the fact that pretty much every other game around these days will default to my desktop resolution and take a stab at estimating my graphics settings .
Ok , no big deal , it only takes a few minutes to change things.So , time to start the game .
I 'm only interested in the singleplayer campaign .
I do n't tend to play non-subscription games online these days ; I 've long since gotten sick of tolerating the 14 year old pottymouths who infest pretty much any other kind of online play .
So you can imagine how delighted I am to find myself in a chatroom full of said lowlifes... on the singleplayer campaign menu .
Yes , while I try to read the mission briefing , I have a window open below it full of idiot children amusing themselves in the usual way .
Clicking past that , I get into the mission.I knew from the pre-release reviews ( none of which mentioned the DRM ) that the C&amp;C gameplay had been radically altered ; that base building had gone .
I had n't been massively enthused by this , but I 'd decided to give it a go .
After all , I got plenty of enjoyment out of Dawn of War 2 and its expansion , even though I would have preferred they stuck to the traditional RTS approach .
Anyway , the first couple of C&amp;C4 missions are tutorial type things , which is fine .
I 'm already starting to worry that we 've lost some gameplay depth , but now I 've committed my money , I 'm determined to give it a go .
The first two tutorials are over very quickly .
I get into the third , and notice that while it 's still a tutorial , it 's a good bit longer .
15 minutes into it... disconnected from the server... progress lost.Fantastic.It takes me 10 minutes to manage to log into EA 's servers again ( and this is n't launch day , but several days later ) .
When I get back in , I manage to complete that mission .
I then get into the game proper , and choose my faction .
Starting the first proper mission ( for the Nod faction ) my worries about the gameplay really start to grow .
There 's no robustness to the micro-level combat .
You 're just dragging a force around from one waypoint to the next .
Mid-mission , my objective changes abruptly , from conquest to escort .
Before I 've really cottoned on to this , the vehicles I 'm supposed to escort have wandered off and been destroyed .
So I revert to a mid-mission save , and go again .
This time , I 'm ready for the objective switch .
I escort the units across the map .
Just as they 're a</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been stung by this one.
There was little (or in fact no) warning in advance of release that the copy protection would take this form and, as this was an EA rather than an Ubisoft game, I didn't assume that it would.
So, like a fool, I went and placed a pre-order with an electronic-only retailer.Of course, the release day comes and various forums explode with news of the DRM.
I had already made a decision not to buy any games with Ubisoft-style DRM... and now find myself accidentally in breach of that.
I try to get a refund... and fail.After a few days of unsuccessfully trying for a refund, I give up.
I say "ok, I'll see for myself just how bad this is".
So I pass up any lingering hopes of a refund and download and install the game.
Just getting the launcher to start up is a hassle, as there are assorted known issues with it.
Eventually, I figure out that I have to manually update the EA Download Manager (an entirely separate piece of software) before the game will run.
Having done all of this, and created an account, I click the button to try to play the game.
And get told that the DRM client "cannot connect to the internet".
I check my net connection; no problems - I've had an IRC client running the whole time with no interruptions.
Ok, maybe it's a router problem... nope, everything's fine there.
I check a few forums and find that the solution is "keep trying, it works eventually.
"Ok, so I do this.
On the 7th or 8th try, it succeeds in logging in (so yes, it's just an inappropriate error message).
The game starts, and I marvel at how retro and primative everything feels.
Yes, it's defaulted my graphics to 800x600, despite the fact that pretty much every other game around these days will default to my desktop resolution and take a stab at estimating my graphics settings.
Ok, no big deal, it only takes a few minutes to change things.So, time to start the game.
I'm only interested in the singleplayer campaign.
I don't tend to play non-subscription games online these days; I've long since gotten sick of tolerating the 14 year old pottymouths who infest pretty much any other kind of online play.
So you can imagine how delighted I am to find myself in a chatroom full of said lowlifes... on the singleplayer campaign menu.
Yes, while I try to read the mission briefing, I have a window open below it full of idiot children amusing themselves in the usual way.
Clicking past that, I get into the mission.I knew from the pre-release reviews (none of which mentioned the DRM) that the C&amp;C gameplay had been radically altered; that base building had gone.
I hadn't been massively enthused by this, but I'd decided to give it a go.
After all, I got plenty of enjoyment out of Dawn of War 2 and its expansion, even though I would have preferred they stuck to the traditional RTS approach.
Anyway, the first couple of C&amp;C4 missions are tutorial type things, which is fine.
I'm already starting to worry that we've lost some gameplay depth, but now I've committed my money, I'm determined to give it a go.
The first two tutorials are over very quickly.
I get into the third, and notice that while it's still a tutorial, it's a good bit longer.
15 minutes into it... disconnected from the server... progress lost.Fantastic.It takes me 10 minutes to manage to log into EA's servers again (and this isn't launch day, but several days later).
When I get back in, I manage to complete that mission.
I then get into the game proper, and choose my faction.
Starting the first proper mission (for the Nod faction) my worries about the gameplay really start to grow.
There's no robustness to the micro-level combat.
You're just dragging a force around from one waypoint to the next.
Mid-mission, my objective changes abruptly, from conquest to escort.
Before I've really cottoned on to this, the vehicles I'm supposed to escort have wandered off and been destroyed.
So I revert to a mid-mission save, and go again.
This time, I'm ready for the objective switch.
I escort the units across the map.
Just as they're a</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624154</id>
	<title>Re:One of the reasons...</title>
	<author>TheFakeMcCoy</author>
	<datestamp>1269607440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have to agree. I actually just ordered left for dead 2 because a few friends were playing. Even though it requires steam, and I could have bought it from steam for the same price. I still ordered it off of Amazon because I wanted a case and a cd.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree .
I actually just ordered left for dead 2 because a few friends were playing .
Even though it requires steam , and I could have bought it from steam for the same price .
I still ordered it off of Amazon because I wanted a case and a cd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree.
I actually just ordered left for dead 2 because a few friends were playing.
Even though it requires steam, and I could have bought it from steam for the same price.
I still ordered it off of Amazon because I wanted a case and a cd.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31627344</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269622680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is exactly right. C&amp;C4 tried to emulate the scope of more unit-oriented RTS games like Dawn of War, Company of Hereos, and World In Conflict, without increasing the level of detail of C&amp;C style play.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is exactly right .
C&amp;C4 tried to emulate the scope of more unit-oriented RTS games like Dawn of War , Company of Hereos , and World In Conflict , without increasing the level of detail of C&amp;C style play .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is exactly right.
C&amp;C4 tried to emulate the scope of more unit-oriented RTS games like Dawn of War, Company of Hereos, and World In Conflict, without increasing the level of detail of C&amp;C style play.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624470</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>forsey</author>
	<datestamp>1269609900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You damn well can notice DRM on the Xbox 360.  I recently had mine die and I sent it back to MS for repair.  They sent back a referb unit as per their usual policy.  Along with the Xbox was a note telling me to redownload all my DLC so that the licenses on my hard drive would be updated to work with the new console.  Well that only works if the jack asses at MS remember to actually transfer the licenses to the new Xbox on their servers, which they failed to do in my case.</p><p>It took a lot of poking around but I eventually found xbox.com/drm which gave me proof that they indeed forgot to transfer the licenses and also gave me a way to transfer the licenses to the new Xbox, though you can only do this once per year.</p><p>While I was having these DRM issues I could only play DLC games when I was on the account they were purchased on and logged on to Xbox live.  As soon as I lost my internet connection (which happened to be having issues around this time) all my DLC games would get the word trial added beside their name.  I did a test and brought up the list of all my DLC games, pulled the network cable out of the Xbox and saw the word "Trial" added to the name of every one of my games, top to bottom, one at a time.  Event my damn wallpaper disappeared because that was DRMed too.</p><p>That said at least they have a tool like xbox.com/drm and at least they do allow you to link your games to a console so they can be played offline once that is achieved.  Still, I'm sure this isn't the last I'll see of these issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You damn well can notice DRM on the Xbox 360 .
I recently had mine die and I sent it back to MS for repair .
They sent back a referb unit as per their usual policy .
Along with the Xbox was a note telling me to redownload all my DLC so that the licenses on my hard drive would be updated to work with the new console .
Well that only works if the jack asses at MS remember to actually transfer the licenses to the new Xbox on their servers , which they failed to do in my case.It took a lot of poking around but I eventually found xbox.com/drm which gave me proof that they indeed forgot to transfer the licenses and also gave me a way to transfer the licenses to the new Xbox , though you can only do this once per year.While I was having these DRM issues I could only play DLC games when I was on the account they were purchased on and logged on to Xbox live .
As soon as I lost my internet connection ( which happened to be having issues around this time ) all my DLC games would get the word trial added beside their name .
I did a test and brought up the list of all my DLC games , pulled the network cable out of the Xbox and saw the word " Trial " added to the name of every one of my games , top to bottom , one at a time .
Event my damn wallpaper disappeared because that was DRMed too.That said at least they have a tool like xbox.com/drm and at least they do allow you to link your games to a console so they can be played offline once that is achieved .
Still , I 'm sure this is n't the last I 'll see of these issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You damn well can notice DRM on the Xbox 360.
I recently had mine die and I sent it back to MS for repair.
They sent back a referb unit as per their usual policy.
Along with the Xbox was a note telling me to redownload all my DLC so that the licenses on my hard drive would be updated to work with the new console.
Well that only works if the jack asses at MS remember to actually transfer the licenses to the new Xbox on their servers, which they failed to do in my case.It took a lot of poking around but I eventually found xbox.com/drm which gave me proof that they indeed forgot to transfer the licenses and also gave me a way to transfer the licenses to the new Xbox, though you can only do this once per year.While I was having these DRM issues I could only play DLC games when I was on the account they were purchased on and logged on to Xbox live.
As soon as I lost my internet connection (which happened to be having issues around this time) all my DLC games would get the word trial added beside their name.
I did a test and brought up the list of all my DLC games, pulled the network cable out of the Xbox and saw the word "Trial" added to the name of every one of my games, top to bottom, one at a time.
Event my damn wallpaper disappeared because that was DRMed too.That said at least they have a tool like xbox.com/drm and at least they do allow you to link your games to a console so they can be played offline once that is achieved.
Still, I'm sure this isn't the last I'll see of these issues.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624438</id>
	<title>Re:Give that man a new job</title>
	<author>Borealis</author>
	<datestamp>1269609660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jeff Green is the former excellent editor of Computer Gaming World magazine.  He's always been on the level.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jeff Green is the former excellent editor of Computer Gaming World magazine .
He 's always been on the level .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jeff Green is the former excellent editor of Computer Gaming World magazine.
He's always been on the level.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31644934</id>
	<title>This article is part of the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269709380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you rather he be a robotic shill that never criticises bad decisions his corporation makes like every other pr guy? He still gushes about how great the game is, don't worry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you rather he be a robotic shill that never criticises bad decisions his corporation makes like every other pr guy ?
He still gushes about how great the game is , do n't worry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you rather he be a robotic shill that never criticises bad decisions his corporation makes like every other pr guy?
He still gushes about how great the game is, don't worry.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31630016</id>
	<title>Re:Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Animal Crossing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269631320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Jesus christ, you've said this 300 times in this thread already.  We get it, you're trying to replace three Wii games with PC games.
<br> <br>
1) Mario Kart:  Go buy Sega and Sonic All Stars Racing.  It's identical to Mario Kart and has a PC version.  <br>
2) Super Smash Brothers:  Go buy Powerstone Collection for PC.  It's not identical but it's very simliar.  Super Smash Flash and Multi-Hero are good flash based replacements, though they lack some of the depth.  <br>
3) Animal Crossing:  Sorry, there doesn't exist and probably won't ever exist something this horrendously gay for the PC.  Titles this stupid and cutesty are relegated to Nintendo consoles for good reason and should stay there until infinity.<br>
<br>
Does this mean I can read the rest of the forum without hearing about how you want replacements for Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Super Smash Brothers?  Please?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Jesus christ , you 've said this 300 times in this thread already .
We get it , you 're trying to replace three Wii games with PC games .
1 ) Mario Kart : Go buy Sega and Sonic All Stars Racing .
It 's identical to Mario Kart and has a PC version .
2 ) Super Smash Brothers : Go buy Powerstone Collection for PC .
It 's not identical but it 's very simliar .
Super Smash Flash and Multi-Hero are good flash based replacements , though they lack some of the depth .
3 ) Animal Crossing : Sorry , there does n't exist and probably wo n't ever exist something this horrendously gay for the PC .
Titles this stupid and cutesty are relegated to Nintendo consoles for good reason and should stay there until infinity .
Does this mean I can read the rest of the forum without hearing about how you want replacements for Mario Kart , Animal Crossing , and Super Smash Brothers ?
Please ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jesus christ, you've said this 300 times in this thread already.
We get it, you're trying to replace three Wii games with PC games.
1) Mario Kart:  Go buy Sega and Sonic All Stars Racing.
It's identical to Mario Kart and has a PC version.
2) Super Smash Brothers:  Go buy Powerstone Collection for PC.
It's not identical but it's very simliar.
Super Smash Flash and Multi-Hero are good flash based replacements, though they lack some of the depth.
3) Animal Crossing:  Sorry, there doesn't exist and probably won't ever exist something this horrendously gay for the PC.
Titles this stupid and cutesty are relegated to Nintendo consoles for good reason and should stay there until infinity.
Does this mean I can read the rest of the forum without hearing about how you want replacements for Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, and Super Smash Brothers?
Please?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31626226</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>Digicaf</author>
	<datestamp>1269618300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The funny thing that occurs to me is that, part and parcel with the game is the understanding that the purchase price buys a service from EA. That service is EA keeping the activation servers up and insuring that the game talks properly to the server.</p><p>In my view, you paid for a service and are not being provided that service. This opens the door to all kinds of things on your end, least of which is issuing a chargeback if you paid using a credit card.</p><p>All that being said, I am not a lawyer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The funny thing that occurs to me is that , part and parcel with the game is the understanding that the purchase price buys a service from EA .
That service is EA keeping the activation servers up and insuring that the game talks properly to the server.In my view , you paid for a service and are not being provided that service .
This opens the door to all kinds of things on your end , least of which is issuing a chargeback if you paid using a credit card.All that being said , I am not a lawyer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The funny thing that occurs to me is that, part and parcel with the game is the understanding that the purchase price buys a service from EA.
That service is EA keeping the activation servers up and insuring that the game talks properly to the server.In my view, you paid for a service and are not being provided that service.
This opens the door to all kinds of things on your end, least of which is issuing a chargeback if you paid using a credit card.All that being said, I am not a lawyer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624030</id>
	<title>Dont worry Green, solution is coming</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269606300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Razor1911 is on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Razor1911 is on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Razor1911 is on it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624044</id>
	<title>It's worse than that...</title>
	<author>VMaN</author>
	<datestamp>1269606420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>these DRM failures have scared me away from buying games, life is too short.</p><p>Much like Sony demonstrated that CDs are fair game for malware deployment, I'm never buying another CD or game again.</p><p>My gaming is pretty retro by now, so I can live with it, and the occasional pirated/cracked game.</p><p>It's kinda funny that I have more faith in crackers to give me a "clean" product, than i do in the publishers.</p><p>I have the money for the odd game i want, but I have exactly zero patience with DRM. Oh and my original Quake and Diablo install discs don't require any kind of activation from a remote server, and should work just fine in another 20 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>these DRM failures have scared me away from buying games , life is too short.Much like Sony demonstrated that CDs are fair game for malware deployment , I 'm never buying another CD or game again.My gaming is pretty retro by now , so I can live with it , and the occasional pirated/cracked game.It 's kinda funny that I have more faith in crackers to give me a " clean " product , than i do in the publishers.I have the money for the odd game i want , but I have exactly zero patience with DRM .
Oh and my original Quake and Diablo install discs do n't require any kind of activation from a remote server , and should work just fine in another 20 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>these DRM failures have scared me away from buying games, life is too short.Much like Sony demonstrated that CDs are fair game for malware deployment, I'm never buying another CD or game again.My gaming is pretty retro by now, so I can live with it, and the occasional pirated/cracked game.It's kinda funny that I have more faith in crackers to give me a "clean" product, than i do in the publishers.I have the money for the odd game i want, but I have exactly zero patience with DRM.
Oh and my original Quake and Diablo install discs don't require any kind of activation from a remote server, and should work just fine in another 20 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625420</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>Urza9814</author>
	<datestamp>1269615120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you're in the US, it's illegal in most states for them to refuse you a refund if the game doesn't work (and it sounds like it doesn't) within 30/60/90 days of purchase. Doesn't matter what store/company policy is, doesn't matter what the EULA says. Check your state's consumer protection laws. You may be able to unbreak that boycott.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you 're in the US , it 's illegal in most states for them to refuse you a refund if the game does n't work ( and it sounds like it does n't ) within 30/60/90 days of purchase .
Does n't matter what store/company policy is , does n't matter what the EULA says .
Check your state 's consumer protection laws .
You may be able to unbreak that boycott .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you're in the US, it's illegal in most states for them to refuse you a refund if the game doesn't work (and it sounds like it doesn't) within 30/60/90 days of purchase.
Doesn't matter what store/company policy is, doesn't matter what the EULA says.
Check your state's consumer protection laws.
You may be able to unbreak that boycott.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624276</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31630718</id>
	<title>All I can say is gog</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269634080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>www.gog.com</p><p>I read about this a few days ago, haven't tried it out yet, but sure sounds like a good thing/alternative. Sure the games are old, but they are good enough that they were seen as worth making play on new systems again. $10 and no DRM.</p><p>Note: I know this seems like a slashvertisement, but I am not affiliated with gog in any way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>www.gog.comI read about this a few days ago , have n't tried it out yet , but sure sounds like a good thing/alternative .
Sure the games are old , but they are good enough that they were seen as worth making play on new systems again .
$ 10 and no DRM.Note : I know this seems like a slashvertisement , but I am not affiliated with gog in any way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>www.gog.comI read about this a few days ago, haven't tried it out yet, but sure sounds like a good thing/alternative.
Sure the games are old, but they are good enough that they were seen as worth making play on new systems again.
$10 and no DRM.Note: I know this seems like a slashvertisement, but I am not affiliated with gog in any way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625046</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1269613440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yet surprisingly indie gamers, seem to be doing OK releasing PC-only games.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Frankly, I would like the "big boys" to stay out of PC gaming. Let them buy the arguments from their accountants that it's just "not worth" developing or porting to the PC (especially when they have switched over most of their production to producing for consoles first). These large corporations are only milking the same concepts they invented or purchased long ago, in endless boring sequels.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The beauty of the PC is that ANYONE with a compiler can write games. By definition, it will always be among the first platforms to receive truly innovative concepts - because the amount of people who CAN write a game for the PC is so much greater. The "barrier to entry" is much lower. You need no specialized equipment or software. Hell Microsoft even gives away "free trials" of its compilers nowadays. All you need is an idea, and the patience to code it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer .
      Yet surprisingly indie gamers , seem to be doing OK releasing PC-only games .
      Frankly , I would like the " big boys " to stay out of PC gaming .
Let them buy the arguments from their accountants that it 's just " not worth " developing or porting to the PC ( especially when they have switched over most of their production to producing for consoles first ) .
These large corporations are only milking the same concepts they invented or purchased long ago , in endless boring sequels .
      The beauty of the PC is that ANYONE with a compiler can write games .
By definition , it will always be among the first platforms to receive truly innovative concepts - because the amount of people who CAN write a game for the PC is so much greater .
The " barrier to entry " is much lower .
You need no specialized equipment or software .
Hell Microsoft even gives away " free trials " of its compilers nowadays .
All you need is an idea , and the patience to code it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.
      Yet surprisingly indie gamers, seem to be doing OK releasing PC-only games.
      Frankly, I would like the "big boys" to stay out of PC gaming.
Let them buy the arguments from their accountants that it's just "not worth" developing or porting to the PC (especially when they have switched over most of their production to producing for consoles first).
These large corporations are only milking the same concepts they invented or purchased long ago, in endless boring sequels.
      The beauty of the PC is that ANYONE with a compiler can write games.
By definition, it will always be among the first platforms to receive truly innovative concepts - because the amount of people who CAN write a game for the PC is so much greater.
The "barrier to entry" is much lower.
You need no specialized equipment or software.
Hell Microsoft even gives away "free trials" of its compilers nowadays.
All you need is an idea, and the patience to code it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625406</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>beowulfcluster</author>
	<datestamp>1269615060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I can play FPS, CRPGs, and strategy games with proper controllers (mouse/keyboard).</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

If things start moving more towards console land, how long will it be before consoles get equipped with proper FPS, CRPG and strategy game controllers?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can play FPS , CRPGs , and strategy games with proper controllers ( mouse/keyboard ) .
If things start moving more towards console land , how long will it be before consoles get equipped with proper FPS , CRPG and strategy game controllers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can play FPS, CRPGs, and strategy games with proper controllers (mouse/keyboard).
If things start moving more towards console land, how long will it be before consoles get equipped with proper FPS, CRPG and strategy game controllers?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623930</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623906</id>
	<title>One of the reasons...</title>
	<author>Amarantine</author>
	<datestamp>1269604740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...why i am losing interest in games rapidly.</p><p>While i can still play games i bought 15 years ago, there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today's games in 15 years. In the past, i got the feeling of really 'owning' a game (well, a non-revokable license to play it, you know what i mean), but now, i can only play it if the publisher is still in business *and* allows me to activate the game, so essentially holding hostage a game i paid good bucks for.</p><p>Another reason is that intolerable dlc business, which i still suspect is a mechanism for publishers to hinder the secondhand market, and/or generate 50\% more revenue of a game by selling content that (in most cases) might as well have been included in the release.</p><p>Then again, maybe it is just me getting older, having kids, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...why i am losing interest in games rapidly.While i can still play games i bought 15 years ago , there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today 's games in 15 years .
In the past , i got the feeling of really 'owning ' a game ( well , a non-revokable license to play it , you know what i mean ) , but now , i can only play it if the publisher is still in business * and * allows me to activate the game , so essentially holding hostage a game i paid good bucks for.Another reason is that intolerable dlc business , which i still suspect is a mechanism for publishers to hinder the secondhand market , and/or generate 50 \ % more revenue of a game by selling content that ( in most cases ) might as well have been included in the release.Then again , maybe it is just me getting older , having kids , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...why i am losing interest in games rapidly.While i can still play games i bought 15 years ago, there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today's games in 15 years.
In the past, i got the feeling of really 'owning' a game (well, a non-revokable license to play it, you know what i mean), but now, i can only play it if the publisher is still in business *and* allows me to activate the game, so essentially holding hostage a game i paid good bucks for.Another reason is that intolerable dlc business, which i still suspect is a mechanism for publishers to hinder the secondhand market, and/or generate 50\% more revenue of a game by selling content that (in most cases) might as well have been included in the release.Then again, maybe it is just me getting older, having kids, etc.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31627168</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1269621960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like an innovative addition to difficulty level.</p><p>Not only is the game hard, but it is also hard to play. Genius, pure genius. The GAME is the GAME! Oh man that blows my mind! They have shifted the game into reality, groovy. I must be smokin' they same stuff they smoke, because I get it man! I just get it!<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like an innovative addition to difficulty level.Not only is the game hard , but it is also hard to play .
Genius , pure genius .
The GAME is the GAME !
Oh man that blows my mind !
They have shifted the game into reality , groovy .
I must be smokin ' they same stuff they smoke , because I get it man !
I just get it !
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like an innovative addition to difficulty level.Not only is the game hard, but it is also hard to play.
Genius, pure genius.
The GAME is the GAME!
Oh man that blows my mind!
They have shifted the game into reality, groovy.
I must be smokin' they same stuff they smoke, because I get it man!
I just get it!
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623844</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Shadow of Eternity</author>
	<datestamp>1269604260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Had me going until I read the account name. Good one BadAnalogyGuy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Had me going until I read the account name .
Good one BadAnalogyGuy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Had me going until I read the account name.
Good one BadAnalogyGuy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624380</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Tukz</author>
	<datestamp>1269609180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I highly doubt he got a "modchip" for a PS3, unless he got ties in the underground.</p><p>There is nothing publicity available about being able to load PS3 Games from images yet.</p><p>It's been years since they enabled the PS3 to make backups from your games, but there still isn't a way to run those images.</p><p>Not public anyway.</p><p>I've heard rumours some of the underground groups have successfully ran certain images, but nothing ready to the public.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I highly doubt he got a " modchip " for a PS3 , unless he got ties in the underground.There is nothing publicity available about being able to load PS3 Games from images yet.It 's been years since they enabled the PS3 to make backups from your games , but there still is n't a way to run those images.Not public anyway.I 've heard rumours some of the underground groups have successfully ran certain images , but nothing ready to the public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I highly doubt he got a "modchip" for a PS3, unless he got ties in the underground.There is nothing publicity available about being able to load PS3 Games from images yet.It's been years since they enabled the PS3 to make backups from your games, but there still isn't a way to run those images.Not public anyway.I've heard rumours some of the underground groups have successfully ran certain images, but nothing ready to the public.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625602</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>apoc.famine</author>
	<datestamp>1269616020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Um, this is a fantastic example of why I stopped buying EA games 7-8 years ago. I remain amazed that the rest of the world still gives them money. <br> <br>I started playing C&amp;C with RA in 1996-1997. I loved the game. But once the games got an EA sticker on them, I haven't played any of the new ones. Don't pay EA to kick you in the balls. It's not worth it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , this is a fantastic example of why I stopped buying EA games 7-8 years ago .
I remain amazed that the rest of the world still gives them money .
I started playing C&amp;C with RA in 1996-1997 .
I loved the game .
But once the games got an EA sticker on them , I have n't played any of the new ones .
Do n't pay EA to kick you in the balls .
It 's not worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, this is a fantastic example of why I stopped buying EA games 7-8 years ago.
I remain amazed that the rest of the world still gives them money.
I started playing C&amp;C with RA in 1996-1997.
I loved the game.
But once the games got an EA sticker on them, I haven't played any of the new ones.
Don't pay EA to kick you in the balls.
It's not worth it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624098</id>
	<title>I feel robbed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269606900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The DRM is bad but the game is crap anyway... I've bought he game for SP, and it's a freaking joke. I feel robbed.<br>I big fail on the part of EA. I'm not buying another game from them until they drop that DRM scheme, I'm not buying any Ubisoft games either.</p><p>I mean seriously... Are these guys so dumb? People will pirate the games no matter what. And the more idiotic the DRM the less people will buy the game...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The DRM is bad but the game is crap anyway... I 've bought he game for SP , and it 's a freaking joke .
I feel robbed.I big fail on the part of EA .
I 'm not buying another game from them until they drop that DRM scheme , I 'm not buying any Ubisoft games either.I mean seriously... Are these guys so dumb ?
People will pirate the games no matter what .
And the more idiotic the DRM the less people will buy the game.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The DRM is bad but the game is crap anyway... I've bought he game for SP, and it's a freaking joke.
I feel robbed.I big fail on the part of EA.
I'm not buying another game from them until they drop that DRM scheme, I'm not buying any Ubisoft games either.I mean seriously... Are these guys so dumb?
People will pirate the games no matter what.
And the more idiotic the DRM the less people will buy the game...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623834</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269604140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope your post gets buried so deep it will never see the light again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope your post gets buried so deep it will never see the light again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope your post gets buried so deep it will never see the light again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31631830</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269595440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lol such a low UID for such a stupid college kid-esque attitude. There are no PS3 modchips. Thanks for playing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lol such a low UID for such a stupid college kid-esque attitude .
There are no PS3 modchips .
Thanks for playing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lol such a low UID for such a stupid college kid-esque attitude.
There are no PS3 modchips.
Thanks for playing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624730</id>
	<title>Hello there EA!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269611580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here's a nifty statistic for you:<br> <br>Command and Conquer style games I've bought (first sale):<br>- Command and Conquer<br>- Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun<br>- Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun - Firestorm expansion pack<br>- Command and Conquer: Renegade<br>- Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars<br>- Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars - Kane's Wrath expansion pack<br>- Command and Conquer: Red Alert<br>- Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2<br>- Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 - Yuri's Revenge expansion pack<br>- Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3<br>- Command and Conquer: Generals<br>- Command and Conquer: Generals - Zero Hour expansion pack<br> <br>Command and Conquer style games I <b>won't</b> be buying because of DRM restrictions on single-player gameplay:<br>- Command and Conquer 4: Tiberium Twilight<br> <br>So, there you have it. One <b>guaranteed, demonstrable</b> lost sale because of your choice to implement a ridiculous restriction on single player gameplay. Thanks for reading.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a nifty statistic for you : Command and Conquer style games I 've bought ( first sale ) : - Command and Conquer- Command and Conquer : Tiberian Sun- Command and Conquer : Tiberian Sun - Firestorm expansion pack- Command and Conquer : Renegade- Command and Conquer 3 : Tiberium Wars- Command and Conquer 3 : Tiberium Wars - Kane 's Wrath expansion pack- Command and Conquer : Red Alert- Command and Conquer : Red Alert 2- Command and Conquer : Red Alert 2 - Yuri 's Revenge expansion pack- Command and Conquer : Red Alert 3- Command and Conquer : Generals- Command and Conquer : Generals - Zero Hour expansion pack Command and Conquer style games I wo n't be buying because of DRM restrictions on single-player gameplay : - Command and Conquer 4 : Tiberium Twilight So , there you have it .
One guaranteed , demonstrable lost sale because of your choice to implement a ridiculous restriction on single player gameplay .
Thanks for reading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a nifty statistic for you: Command and Conquer style games I've bought (first sale):- Command and Conquer- Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun- Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun - Firestorm expansion pack- Command and Conquer: Renegade- Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars- Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars - Kane's Wrath expansion pack- Command and Conquer: Red Alert- Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2- Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 - Yuri's Revenge expansion pack- Command and Conquer: Red Alert 3- Command and Conquer: Generals- Command and Conquer: Generals - Zero Hour expansion pack Command and Conquer style games I won't be buying because of DRM restrictions on single-player gameplay:- Command and Conquer 4: Tiberium Twilight So, there you have it.
One guaranteed, demonstrable lost sale because of your choice to implement a ridiculous restriction on single player gameplay.
Thanks for reading.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624160</id>
	<title>Indie games</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1269607500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Consoles and physical media will be the way forward from now. With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology, PS3 offering unparalleled processing power, and Wii providing an innovative user interface, the time has never been better for game developers to migrate away from the too-open platform of PCs.</p></div><p>Except for students, hobbyists, and studios that are that too small to qualify for a devkit. See also <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob's\_Game" title="wikipedia.org">Bob's Game</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Consoles and physical media will be the way forward from now .
With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology , PS3 offering unparalleled processing power , and Wii providing an innovative user interface , the time has never been better for game developers to migrate away from the too-open platform of PCs.Except for students , hobbyists , and studios that are that too small to qualify for a devkit .
See also Bob 's Game [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consoles and physical media will be the way forward from now.
With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology, PS3 offering unparalleled processing power, and Wii providing an innovative user interface, the time has never been better for game developers to migrate away from the too-open platform of PCs.Except for students, hobbyists, and studios that are that too small to qualify for a devkit.
See also Bob's Game [wikipedia.org].
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31631484</id>
	<title>Re:Hardware Dongle...</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269594000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can fake those. I have done it in the enterprise world with the publishers blessing since their usb key would not work for our situation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can fake those .
I have done it in the enterprise world with the publishers blessing since their usb key would not work for our situation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can fake those.
I have done it in the enterprise world with the publishers blessing since their usb key would not work for our situation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625152</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>wisnoskij</author>
	<datestamp>1269613920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only reason I can think that their is not more piracy on consoles is the kind of people that use them.</p><p>If gaming ever dies, and computer lovers are forced to get a console to play anything good, then the amount of piracy will not change at all (it might even increase).<br>In general piracy has always been a lot easier on the consoles then on a computer</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only reason I can think that their is not more piracy on consoles is the kind of people that use them.If gaming ever dies , and computer lovers are forced to get a console to play anything good , then the amount of piracy will not change at all ( it might even increase ) .In general piracy has always been a lot easier on the consoles then on a computer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only reason I can think that their is not more piracy on consoles is the kind of people that use them.If gaming ever dies, and computer lovers are forced to get a console to play anything good, then the amount of piracy will not change at all (it might even increase).In general piracy has always been a lot easier on the consoles then on a computer</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624074</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269606600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>It won't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media. You won't even notice the DRM.</p></div></blockquote><p>The pirates won't notice the DRM either.</p><p>I just went to look at a popular private tracker (for informational purposes only) and saw that more than half the list of top 50 games for download are for consoles.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It wo n't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media .
You wo n't even notice the DRM.The pirates wo n't notice the DRM either.I just went to look at a popular private tracker ( for informational purposes only ) and saw that more than half the list of top 50 games for download are for consoles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It won't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media.
You won't even notice the DRM.The pirates won't notice the DRM either.I just went to look at a popular private tracker (for informational purposes only) and saw that more than half the list of top 50 games for download are for consoles.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31631942</id>
	<title>Re:This DRM makes no sense whatsoever</title>
	<author>timlash</author>
	<datestamp>1269595920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a legion of pointy haired bosses who lead staffs of developers charged with applying DRM.  They have a keen interest in seeing DRM applied in any and all situations.  Further, they aren't shy about warning their respective executive chain about the horrors the business would experience in the absence of DRM.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a legion of pointy haired bosses who lead staffs of developers charged with applying DRM .
They have a keen interest in seeing DRM applied in any and all situations .
Further , they are n't shy about warning their respective executive chain about the horrors the business would experience in the absence of DRM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a legion of pointy haired bosses who lead staffs of developers charged with applying DRM.
They have a keen interest in seeing DRM applied in any and all situations.
Further, they aren't shy about warning their respective executive chain about the horrors the business would experience in the absence of DRM.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623788</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>PhongUK</author>
	<datestamp>1269603840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't pirating for consoles still doable? If we stop making PC games will the pirates do the same for the consoles as they have done for the PC, if they're not already doing it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't pirating for consoles still doable ?
If we stop making PC games will the pirates do the same for the consoles as they have done for the PC , if they 're not already doing it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't pirating for consoles still doable?
If we stop making PC games will the pirates do the same for the consoles as they have done for the PC, if they're not already doing it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624042</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269606420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The PC as a gaming platform is done.</p></div></blockquote><p>This has been a great year for PC gaming.  There's still a lot of money to be made in making and releasing games for PC.  I doubt very  much that game manufacturers are going to leave that money on the table just  because some people are copying those games illegally.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The PC as a gaming platform is done.This has been a great year for PC gaming .
There 's still a lot of money to be made in making and releasing games for PC .
I doubt very much that game manufacturers are going to leave that money on the table just because some people are copying those games illegally .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The PC as a gaming platform is done.This has been a great year for PC gaming.
There's still a lot of money to be made in making and releasing games for PC.
I doubt very  much that game manufacturers are going to leave that money on the table just  because some people are copying those games illegally.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625068</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not a happy bunny either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269613620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank you for this.  Will not even consider purchase of this game.  I do not follow game releases any longer, but was a huge fan of the previous C&amp;C series.  I probably would have unwittingly bought this if I saw it in a store.  Ugh, such a pity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank you for this .
Will not even consider purchase of this game .
I do not follow game releases any longer , but was a huge fan of the previous C&amp;C series .
I probably would have unwittingly bought this if I saw it in a store .
Ugh , such a pity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank you for this.
Will not even consider purchase of this game.
I do not follow game releases any longer, but was a huge fan of the previous C&amp;C series.
I probably would have unwittingly bought this if I saw it in a store.
Ugh, such a pity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624150</id>
	<title>Here an idea</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269607380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just buy the retail game and then download the DRM-free version. The company gets paid and you get an unbroken game.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just buy the retail game and then download the DRM-free version .
The company gets paid and you get an unbroken game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just buy the retail game and then download the DRM-free version.
The company gets paid and you get an unbroken game.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623754</id>
	<title>No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269603300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The PC as a gaming platform is done. While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.</p><p>Consoles and physical media will be the way forward from now. With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology, PS3 offering unparalleled processing power, and Wii providing an innovative user interface, the time has never been better for game developers to migrate away from the too-open platform of PCs.</p><p>DRM? It won't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media. You won't even notice the DRM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The PC as a gaming platform is done .
While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform , there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.Consoles and physical media will be the way forward from now .
With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology , PS3 offering unparalleled processing power , and Wii providing an innovative user interface , the time has never been better for game developers to migrate away from the too-open platform of PCs.DRM ?
It wo n't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media .
You wo n't even notice the DRM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The PC as a gaming platform is done.
While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.Consoles and physical media will be the way forward from now.
With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology, PS3 offering unparalleled processing power, and Wii providing an innovative user interface, the time has never been better for game developers to migrate away from the too-open platform of PCs.DRM?
It won't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media.
You won't even notice the DRM.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624336</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>biryokumaru</author>
	<datestamp>1269608880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <strong>Democracy</strong> as a <strong>form of government</strong> is done. While the <strong>lack of corruption</strong> and abundance of <strong>liberty</strong> make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to <strong>iron-fisted political control</strong> to sustain <strong>democracy</strong> as a viable platform for much longer.</p><p> <strong>Oppression</strong>? It won't be an issue when <strong>you are</strong> keylocked to your personal console and media. You won't even notice the <strong>oppression</strong>.</p></div><p>Funny how easily that translates... Also, whoever thought "strong" was a good replacement for the "b" tag obviously never wrote HTML by hand, the jerk.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Democracy as a form of government is done .
While the lack of corruption and abundance of liberty make it an attractive target platform , there are simply too many problems related to iron-fisted political control to sustain democracy as a viable platform for much longer .
Oppression ? It wo n't be an issue when you are keylocked to your personal console and media .
You wo n't even notice the oppression.Funny how easily that translates... Also , whoever thought " strong " was a good replacement for the " b " tag obviously never wrote HTML by hand , the jerk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Democracy as a form of government is done.
While the lack of corruption and abundance of liberty make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to iron-fisted political control to sustain democracy as a viable platform for much longer.
Oppression? It won't be an issue when you are keylocked to your personal console and media.
You won't even notice the oppression.Funny how easily that translates... Also, whoever thought "strong" was a good replacement for the "b" tag obviously never wrote HTML by hand, the jerk.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31627656</id>
	<title>He should criticize the game itself.</title>
	<author>Yunzil</author>
	<datestamp>1269623880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because it's pretty terrible.  Well, let me clarify that.  If it was some other combat game set in any other universe released for cheap on Steam it would be OK.  For a Command and Conquer game it blows.</p><p>No base building?<br>No resource gathering?<br>No continuity with the previous story?</p><p>Did anybody in EA management <b>play</b> any of the other C&amp;C games?  Or even know of their existence?</p><p>C&amp;C 4 is the Indiana Jones 4 of the gaming world.  What is it with 4s?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because it 's pretty terrible .
Well , let me clarify that .
If it was some other combat game set in any other universe released for cheap on Steam it would be OK. For a Command and Conquer game it blows.No base building ? No resource gathering ? No continuity with the previous story ? Did anybody in EA management play any of the other C&amp;C games ?
Or even know of their existence ? C&amp;C 4 is the Indiana Jones 4 of the gaming world .
What is it with 4s ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because it's pretty terrible.
Well, let me clarify that.
If it was some other combat game set in any other universe released for cheap on Steam it would be OK.  For a Command and Conquer game it blows.No base building?No resource gathering?No continuity with the previous story?Did anybody in EA management play any of the other C&amp;C games?
Or even know of their existence?C&amp;C 4 is the Indiana Jones 4 of the gaming world.
What is it with 4s?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624312</id>
	<title>EA...</title>
	<author>disi</author>
	<datestamp>1269608640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was cured by Red Altert 3, where they did or did not remove the drm afterwards. After 6 month being installed on my machine and fully patched it refuses to start anymore (drm error). There isn't even an offcial customer support for that game, you have to go throught your retailer or rely on the community. Reinstall, few GB patch and try again is the common solution.<br>
<br>
I am not buying from EA anymore...<br>
It is sad about the game<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was cured by Red Altert 3 , where they did or did not remove the drm afterwards .
After 6 month being installed on my machine and fully patched it refuses to start anymore ( drm error ) .
There is n't even an offcial customer support for that game , you have to go throught your retailer or rely on the community .
Reinstall , few GB patch and try again is the common solution .
I am not buying from EA anymore.. . It is sad about the game : (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was cured by Red Altert 3, where they did or did not remove the drm afterwards.
After 6 month being installed on my machine and fully patched it refuses to start anymore (drm error).
There isn't even an offcial customer support for that game, you have to go throught your retailer or rely on the community.
Reinstall, few GB patch and try again is the common solution.
I am not buying from EA anymore...
It is sad about the game :(</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31631520</id>
	<title>Re:Hello there EA!</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1269594120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought each of these games except for #3, then also bought Command and Conquer: The first decade collection. I will not buy CC4 or any other DRMed games.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought each of these games except for # 3 , then also bought Command and Conquer : The first decade collection .
I will not buy CC4 or any other DRMed games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought each of these games except for #3, then also bought Command and Conquer: The first decade collection.
I will not buy CC4 or any other DRMed games.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623930</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269605160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The PC as a gaming platform is done.[...]PS3 offering unparalleled processing power[...]</p></div><p>Can I play every PS3 game in 1080p, 8xAA ? Didn't think so. On my gaming PC, I can. With an Xbox Controller and HDMI output, I can play Batman, GTA, etc. on my HDTV, sitting on my couch, with (far) better graphics than on any so-called Next-gen console. And with the same machine, I can play FPS, CRPGs, and strategy games with proper controllers (mouse/keyboard). Oh, and thanks to Steam's constant stream of special deals, I don't have to pay 50-70&euro; for each game.
</p><p>Each time a console's price drops, I've had the temptation to buy one. But each time I quickly remember that I would hardly use it, except for playing the odd exclusive title.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The PC as a gaming platform is done. [ .. .
] PS3 offering unparalleled processing power [ ... ] Can I play every PS3 game in 1080p , 8xAA ?
Did n't think so .
On my gaming PC , I can .
With an Xbox Controller and HDMI output , I can play Batman , GTA , etc .
on my HDTV , sitting on my couch , with ( far ) better graphics than on any so-called Next-gen console .
And with the same machine , I can play FPS , CRPGs , and strategy games with proper controllers ( mouse/keyboard ) .
Oh , and thanks to Steam 's constant stream of special deals , I do n't have to pay 50-70    for each game .
Each time a console 's price drops , I 've had the temptation to buy one .
But each time I quickly remember that I would hardly use it , except for playing the odd exclusive title .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The PC as a gaming platform is done.[...
]PS3 offering unparalleled processing power[...]Can I play every PS3 game in 1080p, 8xAA ?
Didn't think so.
On my gaming PC, I can.
With an Xbox Controller and HDMI output, I can play Batman, GTA, etc.
on my HDTV, sitting on my couch, with (far) better graphics than on any so-called Next-gen console.
And with the same machine, I can play FPS, CRPGs, and strategy games with proper controllers (mouse/keyboard).
Oh, and thanks to Steam's constant stream of special deals, I don't have to pay 50-70€ for each game.
Each time a console's price drops, I've had the temptation to buy one.
But each time I quickly remember that I would hardly use it, except for playing the odd exclusive title.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625624</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1269616080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...but you get to drop the price of a console on a new graphics card every 6 months...!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but you get to drop the price of a console on a new graphics card every 6 months... !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but you get to drop the price of a console on a new graphics card every 6 months...!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624266</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1269608220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are doing the same crap to the consoles too.   Testing the waters with DLC that is only available via the code in the new game box.  Right now it's fluff crap that nobody really cares about (ME2: none of the DLC is useful at all, it's all worthless) but it will change, like 1/2 the game being a DLC that is locked to a user.</p><p>It's crap like this that  makes me think the pirates have the right idea and are justified.   I'm a legit customer, and I get reamed in the butt without lube by the company I bought from.  That makes me want to say "screw you" and pirate the stuff next time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are doing the same crap to the consoles too .
Testing the waters with DLC that is only available via the code in the new game box .
Right now it 's fluff crap that nobody really cares about ( ME2 : none of the DLC is useful at all , it 's all worthless ) but it will change , like 1/2 the game being a DLC that is locked to a user.It 's crap like this that makes me think the pirates have the right idea and are justified .
I 'm a legit customer , and I get reamed in the butt without lube by the company I bought from .
That makes me want to say " screw you " and pirate the stuff next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are doing the same crap to the consoles too.
Testing the waters with DLC that is only available via the code in the new game box.
Right now it's fluff crap that nobody really cares about (ME2: none of the DLC is useful at all, it's all worthless) but it will change, like 1/2 the game being a DLC that is locked to a user.It's crap like this that  makes me think the pirates have the right idea and are justified.
I'm a legit customer, and I get reamed in the butt without lube by the company I bought from.
That makes me want to say "screw you" and pirate the stuff next time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625638</id>
	<title>Re:Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Animal Crossing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269616140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are various emulators for every Nintendo system (yes, even the Wii), so you could just play those game on a PC. I play N64 games all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are various emulators for every Nintendo system ( yes , even the Wii ) , so you could just play those game on a PC .
I play N64 games all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are various emulators for every Nintendo system (yes, even the Wii), so you could just play those game on a PC.
I play N64 games all the time.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624424</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>MogNuts</author>
	<datestamp>1269609540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Are you paid to say this? You sound like an advertisement.</p><p>"With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology, PS3 offering unparalleled processing power, and Wii providing an innovative user interface, the time has never been better for game developers"</p><p>And c'mon, while all the above are pretty good, it still can't match the potential of the PC:</p><p>Latest DX: PC is on DX11<br>PS3 processing power: Seriously? Core i7/ATI 5870. Nuff said.<br>Wii: The gimmick gets old. Back to what actually works: buttons on a controller. But I'm sure of PC's millions of peripherals they have an alternative.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you paid to say this ?
You sound like an advertisement .
" With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology , PS3 offering unparalleled processing power , and Wii providing an innovative user interface , the time has never been better for game developers " And c'mon , while all the above are pretty good , it still ca n't match the potential of the PC : Latest DX : PC is on DX11PS3 processing power : Seriously ?
Core i7/ATI 5870 .
Nuff said.Wii : The gimmick gets old .
Back to what actually works : buttons on a controller .
But I 'm sure of PC 's millions of peripherals they have an alternative .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you paid to say this?
You sound like an advertisement.
"With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology, PS3 offering unparalleled processing power, and Wii providing an innovative user interface, the time has never been better for game developers"And c'mon, while all the above are pretty good, it still can't match the potential of the PC:Latest DX: PC is on DX11PS3 processing power: Seriously?
Core i7/ATI 5870.
Nuff said.Wii: The gimmick gets old.
Back to what actually works: buttons on a controller.
But I'm sure of PC's millions of peripherals they have an alternative.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31625488</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>xSauronx</author>
	<datestamp>1269615540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>my issue with console gaming is....the games i like, i cant play well on a console. RTS games and FPS games require, for me, a keyboard and mouse....i just cant get the knack of a controller well enough to be any good and those, and theyre my favorite types of games.</p><p>thing is, with more and more drm creeping in, im about ready to sell my video card and look for a ps3. ive been playing dragon age and just found out that the downloaded content means i cant play *ANY* saved game with said content if im not logged in. my internet connection is pretty reliable....but thats just not acceptable to me.</p><p>with half life 2, i ran into the issue where i have a boxed copy but couldnt play because id forgotten how to access my old steam account....it took 3 days and me sending in a picture of the case with another special code to access my account so i could play a game i WAS HOLDING IN MY HAND.</p><p>world at war? love that game. love it. despite having to login to access my account to play online, when i had to reinstalled after a windows 7 upgrade...my account had been reset, all my accomplishments etc. i could play...but it was annoying as hell to have to redo everything i had already done.</p><p>i dont mind drm to an extent..i get it. requiring the disc can be annoying but fine, whatever, a disc and a key...but making it a pure hassle to play irks me to no end. i should be able to play without a net connection, i have the content, its here legitimately, leave me the fuck alone already.</p><p>the only games ive bought in the last few months were cheap games on STEAM specials, where for the $5 or so i figured it was worth it. thing is...i dont have to be on steam to play them all, it has an offline mode.</p><p>bah.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>my issue with console gaming is....the games i like , i cant play well on a console .
RTS games and FPS games require , for me , a keyboard and mouse....i just cant get the knack of a controller well enough to be any good and those , and theyre my favorite types of games.thing is , with more and more drm creeping in , im about ready to sell my video card and look for a ps3 .
ive been playing dragon age and just found out that the downloaded content means i cant play * ANY * saved game with said content if im not logged in .
my internet connection is pretty reliable....but thats just not acceptable to me.with half life 2 , i ran into the issue where i have a boxed copy but couldnt play because id forgotten how to access my old steam account....it took 3 days and me sending in a picture of the case with another special code to access my account so i could play a game i WAS HOLDING IN MY HAND.world at war ?
love that game .
love it .
despite having to login to access my account to play online , when i had to reinstalled after a windows 7 upgrade...my account had been reset , all my accomplishments etc .
i could play...but it was annoying as hell to have to redo everything i had already done.i dont mind drm to an extent..i get it .
requiring the disc can be annoying but fine , whatever , a disc and a key...but making it a pure hassle to play irks me to no end .
i should be able to play without a net connection , i have the content , its here legitimately , leave me the fuck alone already.the only games ive bought in the last few months were cheap games on STEAM specials , where for the $ 5 or so i figured it was worth it .
thing is...i dont have to be on steam to play them all , it has an offline mode.bah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my issue with console gaming is....the games i like, i cant play well on a console.
RTS games and FPS games require, for me, a keyboard and mouse....i just cant get the knack of a controller well enough to be any good and those, and theyre my favorite types of games.thing is, with more and more drm creeping in, im about ready to sell my video card and look for a ps3.
ive been playing dragon age and just found out that the downloaded content means i cant play *ANY* saved game with said content if im not logged in.
my internet connection is pretty reliable....but thats just not acceptable to me.with half life 2, i ran into the issue where i have a boxed copy but couldnt play because id forgotten how to access my old steam account....it took 3 days and me sending in a picture of the case with another special code to access my account so i could play a game i WAS HOLDING IN MY HAND.world at war?
love that game.
love it.
despite having to login to access my account to play online, when i had to reinstalled after a windows 7 upgrade...my account had been reset, all my accomplishments etc.
i could play...but it was annoying as hell to have to redo everything i had already done.i dont mind drm to an extent..i get it.
requiring the disc can be annoying but fine, whatever, a disc and a key...but making it a pure hassle to play irks me to no end.
i should be able to play without a net connection, i have the content, its here legitimately, leave me the fuck alone already.the only games ive bought in the last few months were cheap games on STEAM specials, where for the $5 or so i figured it was worth it.
thing is...i dont have to be on steam to play them all, it has an offline mode.bah.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624564</id>
	<title>Re:One of the reasons...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269610560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>which i still suspect is a mechanism for publishers to hinder the secondhand market</p></div><p>In Mass Effect II, the ability to dl DLC is tied to a $15 download that has a code free with the game. You also have to sign up for an account with the publisher. Stop wondering.</p></div>
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<tokenext>which i still suspect is a mechanism for publishers to hinder the secondhand marketIn Mass Effect II , the ability to dl DLC is tied to a $ 15 download that has a code free with the game .
You also have to sign up for an account with the publisher .
Stop wondering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>which i still suspect is a mechanism for publishers to hinder the secondhand marketIn Mass Effect II, the ability to dl DLC is tied to a $15 download that has a code free with the game.
You also have to sign up for an account with the publisher.
Stop wondering.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31634420</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>sortius\_nod</author>
	<datestamp>1269608460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fact, the Wii doesn't even require you to open it to pirate games for it. You can even load them on to an external USB HDD and load them from there...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , the Wii does n't even require you to open it to pirate games for it .
You can even load them on to an external USB HDD and load them from there.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, the Wii doesn't even require you to open it to pirate games for it.
You can even load them on to an external USB HDD and load them from there...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31623826</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269604080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Not to mention the added value to GNP by having us all purchase a console or two for gaming and a PC for work (not to mention a few televisions) instead of just one PC. The Crisis of Capitalism will be over! The only ones who can be against must be banker-commie-hippie-traitor-pirate-terrorist-cultist-atheist scum of the Earth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Not to mention the added value to GNP by having us all purchase a console or two for gaming and a PC for work ( not to mention a few televisions ) instead of just one PC .
The Crisis of Capitalism will be over !
The only ones who can be against must be banker-commie-hippie-traitor-pirate-terrorist-cultist-atheist scum of the Earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention the added value to GNP by having us all purchase a console or two for gaming and a PC for work (not to mention a few televisions) instead of just one PC.
The Crisis of Capitalism will be over!
The only ones who can be against must be banker-commie-hippie-traitor-pirate-terrorist-cultist-atheist scum of the Earth.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624086</id>
	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1269606780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The PC as a gaming platform is done.</p></div><p>Not done, but perhaps we're starting to see the sunset. I gave up on PC gaming when Microsoft moved past Windows XP. I couldn't even get my motorola phone to work on 64 bit Windows Vista <em>or</em> 7 even while following various sets of directions because Microsoft boned the whole driver signing thing, and I hate to dual-boot, so now I just run the handful of games which are both good and fun on Linux.</p><p><div class="quote"><p> While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.</p></div><p>All the piracy-related problems are actually developer-related problems.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology,</p></div><p>It doesn't. DirectX has moved on from what the Xbox 360 has.</p><p><div class="quote"><p> PS3 offering unparalleled processing power,</p></div><p>It doesn't. Not only is the Xbox 360 about as powerful as the PS3, but home PCs are available with vastly more power in all areas today.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>and Wii providing an innovative user interface,</p></div><p>Having a remote-shaped replacement for a spaceball is evolutionary, not revolutionary.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>DRM? It won't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media. You won't even notice the DRM.</p></div><p>Won't be? Microsoft and Sony both have direct-download marketplaces which use this scheme. It's here already.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The PC as a gaming platform is done.Not done , but perhaps we 're starting to see the sunset .
I gave up on PC gaming when Microsoft moved past Windows XP .
I could n't even get my motorola phone to work on 64 bit Windows Vista or 7 even while following various sets of directions because Microsoft boned the whole driver signing thing , and I hate to dual-boot , so now I just run the handful of games which are both good and fun on Linux .
While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform , there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.All the piracy-related problems are actually developer-related problems.With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology,It does n't .
DirectX has moved on from what the Xbox 360 has .
PS3 offering unparalleled processing power,It does n't .
Not only is the Xbox 360 about as powerful as the PS3 , but home PCs are available with vastly more power in all areas today.and Wii providing an innovative user interface,Having a remote-shaped replacement for a spaceball is evolutionary , not revolutionary.DRM ?
It wo n't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media .
You wo n't even notice the DRM.Wo n't be ?
Microsoft and Sony both have direct-download marketplaces which use this scheme .
It 's here already .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The PC as a gaming platform is done.Not done, but perhaps we're starting to see the sunset.
I gave up on PC gaming when Microsoft moved past Windows XP.
I couldn't even get my motorola phone to work on 64 bit Windows Vista or 7 even while following various sets of directions because Microsoft boned the whole driver signing thing, and I hate to dual-boot, so now I just run the handful of games which are both good and fun on Linux.
While the CPU power and abundance of input devices make it an attractive target platform, there are simply too many problems related to software piracy to sustain the PC as a viable platform for much longer.All the piracy-related problems are actually developer-related problems.With X-Box supporting all the latest DX technology,It doesn't.
DirectX has moved on from what the Xbox 360 has.
PS3 offering unparalleled processing power,It doesn't.
Not only is the Xbox 360 about as powerful as the PS3, but home PCs are available with vastly more power in all areas today.and Wii providing an innovative user interface,Having a remote-shaped replacement for a spaceball is evolutionary, not revolutionary.DRM?
It won't be an issue when the game is keylocked to your personal console and media.
You won't even notice the DRM.Won't be?
Microsoft and Sony both have direct-download marketplaces which use this scheme.
It's here already.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624270</id>
	<title>I haven't had ANY problems with it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269608340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have somehow managed to have no problems with their DRM scheme at all.  It hasn't caused me any frustrations nor any annoyances.  How can this be you might ask?  Simple.  I didn't buy it and I don't play it.  I'm pretty much done with PC games.  PCs are for other things.  Consoles are for games -- no one has a faster processor or video card that gives them an advantage or an edge in some way and even though the playing field for console games still isn't perfectly level, it's far more level there than on PCs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have somehow managed to have no problems with their DRM scheme at all .
It has n't caused me any frustrations nor any annoyances .
How can this be you might ask ?
Simple. I did n't buy it and I do n't play it .
I 'm pretty much done with PC games .
PCs are for other things .
Consoles are for games -- no one has a faster processor or video card that gives them an advantage or an edge in some way and even though the playing field for console games still is n't perfectly level , it 's far more level there than on PCs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have somehow managed to have no problems with their DRM scheme at all.
It hasn't caused me any frustrations nor any annoyances.
How can this be you might ask?
Simple.  I didn't buy it and I don't play it.
I'm pretty much done with PC games.
PCs are for other things.
Consoles are for games -- no one has a faster processor or video card that gives them an advantage or an edge in some way and even though the playing field for console games still isn't perfectly level, it's far more level there than on PCs.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Smash Bros., Mario Kart, and Animal Crossing</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1269612600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah &amp; you can't plays those on a PS3 either, so what is your point?</p><p>Oh &amp; there are PC clones for SSB &amp; SMK, can't vouch for how good they are, but there you go.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah &amp; you ca n't plays those on a PS3 either , so what is your point ? Oh &amp; there are PC clones for SSB &amp; SMK , ca n't vouch for how good they are , but there you go .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah &amp; you can't plays those on a PS3 either, so what is your point?Oh &amp; there are PC clones for SSB &amp; SMK, can't vouch for how good they are, but there you go.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Give that man a new job</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269607680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ya know, I remember a post where Bill Gates honestly complained about how convoluted and messed up Microsoft's website is, and how annoying and misleading many of the files used on the site are.  It's one thing to be honest in a casual setting like twitter, another thing to do it on the job.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ya know , I remember a post where Bill Gates honestly complained about how convoluted and messed up Microsoft 's website is , and how annoying and misleading many of the files used on the site are .
It 's one thing to be honest in a casual setting like twitter , another thing to do it on the job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ya know, I remember a post where Bill Gates honestly complained about how convoluted and messed up Microsoft's website is, and how annoying and misleading many of the files used on the site are.
It's one thing to be honest in a casual setting like twitter, another thing to do it on the job.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1269616020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Man, I'm bored of TuxRacer</htmltext>
<tokenext>Man , I 'm bored of TuxRacer</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man, I'm bored of TuxRacer</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:One of the reasons...</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1269612600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today's games in 15 years.</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Actually, you can play those games DRM free <a href="http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5464114/Command.And.Conquer.4.Tiberian.Twilight-RELOADED-\%5Btracker.BTAREN" title="thepiratebay.org">TODAY</a> [thepiratebay.org]. However depending on which country you live in, it might not be legal to do so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today 's games in 15 years .
      Actually , you can play those games DRM free TODAY [ thepiratebay.org ] .
However depending on which country you live in , it might not be legal to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there is no guarantee whatsoever that i can play today's games in 15 years.
      Actually, you can play those games DRM free TODAY [thepiratebay.org].
However depending on which country you live in, it might not be legal to do so.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_26_0653202.31624886</id>
	<title>Hardware Dongle...</title>
	<author>joshuao3</author>
	<datestamp>1269612480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The USB dongle has been around for years, though I only recall seeing it in association with "professional" applications such as CNC and CAD software.  Do you think the gaming world would be receptive of some sort of hardware key for applications with such a low price tag?</htmltext>
<tokenext>The USB dongle has been around for years , though I only recall seeing it in association with " professional " applications such as CNC and CAD software .
Do you think the gaming world would be receptive of some sort of hardware key for applications with such a low price tag ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The USB dongle has been around for years, though I only recall seeing it in association with "professional" applications such as CNC and CAD software.
Do you think the gaming world would be receptive of some sort of hardware key for applications with such a low price tag?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:No problems here</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1269607080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Not to mention the added value to GNP by having us all purchase a console or two for gaming and a PC for work (not to mention a few televisions) instead of just one PC.</p></div><p>Just one PC? Ordinarily, if you want more than one player, you have to buy a separate PC and a separate copy of each game for each person in the house.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Not to mention the added value to GNP by having us all purchase a console or two for gaming and a PC for work ( not to mention a few televisions ) instead of just one PC.Just one PC ?
Ordinarily , if you want more than one player , you have to buy a separate PC and a separate copy of each game for each person in the house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not to mention the added value to GNP by having us all purchase a console or two for gaming and a PC for work (not to mention a few televisions) instead of just one PC.Just one PC?
Ordinarily, if you want more than one player, you have to buy a separate PC and a separate copy of each game for each person in the house.
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