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	<title>Balloon and Duct Tape Deliver Great Space Photos</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1269543300000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>krou writes <i>"With a budget of &pound;500, Robert Harrison used <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/space/article7074839.ece">cheap parts, a weather balloon, some duct tape, a digital camera, and a GPS device</a> to capture some great <a href="http://www.robertharrison.org/icarus/wordpress/?page\_id=2">photos of the earth</a> from space that resulted in NASA calling him to find out how he had done it. 'A guy phoned up who worked for NASA who was interested in how we took the pictures,' said Mr Harrison. 'He wanted to know how the hell we did it. He thought we used a rocket. They said it would have cost them millions of dollars.' The details of his balloon are as follows: he used 'an ordinary Canon camera mounted on a weather balloon,' 'free software' that 'reprogrammed the camera to wake up every five minutes and take eight photographs and a video before switching off for a rest.' He also ensured the camera was 'wrapped in loft insulation' to make sure it could operate at the cold temperatures. The GPS device allowed him to pinpoint the balloon's location, and retrieve the camera when it fell down to earth attached to a small parachute."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>krou writes " With a budget of   500 , Robert Harrison used cheap parts , a weather balloon , some duct tape , a digital camera , and a GPS device to capture some great photos of the earth from space that resulted in NASA calling him to find out how he had done it .
'A guy phoned up who worked for NASA who was interested in how we took the pictures, ' said Mr Harrison .
'He wanted to know how the hell we did it .
He thought we used a rocket .
They said it would have cost them millions of dollars .
' The details of his balloon are as follows : he used 'an ordinary Canon camera mounted on a weather balloon, ' 'free software ' that 'reprogrammed the camera to wake up every five minutes and take eight photographs and a video before switching off for a rest .
' He also ensured the camera was 'wrapped in loft insulation ' to make sure it could operate at the cold temperatures .
The GPS device allowed him to pinpoint the balloon 's location , and retrieve the camera when it fell down to earth attached to a small parachute .
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<sentencetext>krou writes "With a budget of £500, Robert Harrison used cheap parts, a weather balloon, some duct tape, a digital camera, and a GPS device to capture some great photos of the earth from space that resulted in NASA calling him to find out how he had done it.
'A guy phoned up who worked for NASA who was interested in how we took the pictures,' said Mr Harrison.
'He wanted to know how the hell we did it.
He thought we used a rocket.
They said it would have cost them millions of dollars.
' The details of his balloon are as follows: he used 'an ordinary Canon camera mounted on a weather balloon,' 'free software' that 'reprogrammed the camera to wake up every five minutes and take eight photographs and a video before switching off for a rest.
' He also ensured the camera was 'wrapped in loft insulation' to make sure it could operate at the cold temperatures.
The GPS device allowed him to pinpoint the balloon's location, and retrieve the camera when it fell down to earth attached to a small parachute.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616214</id>
	<title>Thankfully ballon boy's dad did not know this</title>
	<author>WindBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1269549900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He would have incurred LARGE costs on this one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He would have incurred LARGE costs on this one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He would have incurred LARGE costs on this one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31621132</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who do you think invented all the cool tech that went into the now cheap digital cameras everyone takes for granted?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who do you think invented all the cool tech that went into the now cheap digital cameras everyone takes for granted ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who do you think invented all the cool tech that went into the now cheap digital cameras everyone takes for granted?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31621506</id>
	<title>Having low budgets helps improve development</title>
	<author>rfc1394</author>
	<datestamp>1269534000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Over and over again, the need to scrounge for resources has shown to improve the quality of the product, from people bootlegging resources from their company (see Tracy Kidder's <i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Soul\_of\_a\_New\_Machine" title="wikipedia.org">The Soul of a New Machine</a> [wikipedia.org] </i> about how an underfunded and overworked group developed Data General's Eclipse 32-bit VAX competitor), to the reports in <i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In\_Search\_of\_Excellence" title="wikipedia.org">In Search of Excellence</a> [wikipedia.org] </i> how excellent companies encourage scrounging and "borrowing" time and resources to work on new ideas.</p><p>One writer in a book about the show told a story how the original 1966 TV show <i>Star Trek</i> had to develop a special effect and there was only enough money in the budget for something like $562.00, which, given what it costs to develop things in television, was I think 1/3 of what it could expect to cost, and the guy didn't think he could do it, but he figured out a way.</p><p>Over and over again, it's the companies that have to scrounge and figure way to do things cost effectively and work with low amounts of money, that, long term, figure out how to survive and grow.  Creative companies do more with less; it's the ones who have "too much" money that get in trouble.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Over and over again , the need to scrounge for resources has shown to improve the quality of the product , from people bootlegging resources from their company ( see Tracy Kidder 's The Soul of a New Machine [ wikipedia.org ] about how an underfunded and overworked group developed Data General 's Eclipse 32-bit VAX competitor ) , to the reports in In Search of Excellence [ wikipedia.org ] how excellent companies encourage scrounging and " borrowing " time and resources to work on new ideas.One writer in a book about the show told a story how the original 1966 TV show Star Trek had to develop a special effect and there was only enough money in the budget for something like $ 562.00 , which , given what it costs to develop things in television , was I think 1/3 of what it could expect to cost , and the guy did n't think he could do it , but he figured out a way.Over and over again , it 's the companies that have to scrounge and figure way to do things cost effectively and work with low amounts of money , that , long term , figure out how to survive and grow .
Creative companies do more with less ; it 's the ones who have " too much " money that get in trouble .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Over and over again, the need to scrounge for resources has shown to improve the quality of the product, from people bootlegging resources from their company (see Tracy Kidder's  The Soul of a New Machine [wikipedia.org]  about how an underfunded and overworked group developed Data General's Eclipse 32-bit VAX competitor), to the reports in  In Search of Excellence [wikipedia.org]  how excellent companies encourage scrounging and "borrowing" time and resources to work on new ideas.One writer in a book about the show told a story how the original 1966 TV show Star Trek had to develop a special effect and there was only enough money in the budget for something like $562.00, which, given what it costs to develop things in television, was I think 1/3 of what it could expect to cost, and the guy didn't think he could do it, but he figured out a way.Over and over again, it's the companies that have to scrounge and figure way to do things cost effectively and work with low amounts of money, that, long term, figure out how to survive and grow.
Creative companies do more with less; it's the ones who have "too much" money that get in trouble.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616020</id>
	<title>Re:Altimeter</title>
	<author>TooMuchToDo</author>
	<datestamp>1269549240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.redbullstratos.com/" title="redbullstratos.com">http://www.redbullstratos.com/</a> [redbullstratos.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.redbullstratos.com/ [ redbullstratos.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.redbullstratos.com/ [redbullstratos.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617382</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>amicusNYCL</author>
	<datestamp>1269510420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Actually the "NASA" types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago, pre <b>maned space flight</b></p> </div><p>Indeed, but things really got kicked into high gear once we sent the lions up.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually the " NASA " types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago , pre maned space flight Indeed , but things really got kicked into high gear once we sent the lions up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually the "NASA" types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago, pre maned space flight Indeed, but things really got kicked into high gear once we sent the lions up.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616262</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1269550080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even in the USA, NASA doesn't have "jurisdiction".  NASA designs, builds, and launches rockets.</p><p>The FAA is the organization that tells people whether or not it is OK to launch airborne device X in the United States.</p><p>The FCC is the organization that tells them whether or not the mechanisms they are using for communications are permitted in the United States.</p><p>There are international organizations that coordinate efforts between the FAA and their counterparts, and the FCC and their counterparts.</p><p>FAA -&gt; ICAO<br>FCC -&gt; ITU</p><p>A lot of HAB projects look at FAA regs and say "yay we're legal" even when they're breaking a pile of FCC regs with their comms equipment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even in the USA , NASA does n't have " jurisdiction " .
NASA designs , builds , and launches rockets.The FAA is the organization that tells people whether or not it is OK to launch airborne device X in the United States.The FCC is the organization that tells them whether or not the mechanisms they are using for communications are permitted in the United States.There are international organizations that coordinate efforts between the FAA and their counterparts , and the FCC and their counterparts.FAA - &gt; ICAOFCC - &gt; ITUA lot of HAB projects look at FAA regs and say " yay we 're legal " even when they 're breaking a pile of FCC regs with their comms equipment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even in the USA, NASA doesn't have "jurisdiction".
NASA designs, builds, and launches rockets.The FAA is the organization that tells people whether or not it is OK to launch airborne device X in the United States.The FCC is the organization that tells them whether or not the mechanisms they are using for communications are permitted in the United States.There are international organizations that coordinate efforts between the FAA and their counterparts, and the FCC and their counterparts.FAA -&gt; ICAOFCC -&gt; ITUA lot of HAB projects look at FAA regs and say "yay we're legal" even when they're breaking a pile of FCC regs with their comms equipment.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616076</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>rwven</author>
	<datestamp>1269549480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>NASA called the guy because they thought he launched a rocket.</p></div></blockquote><p>Wrong. He's in europe. NASA has no "jurisdiction" there and would not have called him to check on whether or not he'd used a rocket. Calling about a rocket would have been the job of the EASA or the ESA.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>NASA called the guy because they thought he launched a rocket.Wrong .
He 's in europe .
NASA has no " jurisdiction " there and would not have called him to check on whether or not he 'd used a rocket .
Calling about a rocket would have been the job of the EASA or the ESA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NASA called the guy because they thought he launched a rocket.Wrong.
He's in europe.
NASA has no "jurisdiction" there and would not have called him to check on whether or not he'd used a rocket.
Calling about a rocket would have been the job of the EASA or the ESA.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615894</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>oodaloop</author>
	<datestamp>1269548760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, they thought of it.  And they did it.  But not for 500 quid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , they thought of it .
And they did it .
But not for 500 quid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, they thought of it.
And they did it.
But not for 500 quid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616542</id>
	<title>Re:Altimeter</title>
	<author>zmollusc</author>
	<datestamp>1269507720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. It would definitely be cooler to ride the balloon up and parachute down. Much cooler.<br>Actually, I wonder what it would cost to ride a hot air balloon to high altitude and parachute back? Like 50,000 ft or so? I am thinking of a pilot and passenger, so the balloon is flown down and re-used. Hmm, how would the free-fall times compare? Where's me slide rule?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
It would definitely be cooler to ride the balloon up and parachute down .
Much cooler.Actually , I wonder what it would cost to ride a hot air balloon to high altitude and parachute back ?
Like 50,000 ft or so ?
I am thinking of a pilot and passenger , so the balloon is flown down and re-used .
Hmm , how would the free-fall times compare ?
Where 's me slide rule ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
It would definitely be cooler to ride the balloon up and parachute down.
Much cooler.Actually, I wonder what it would cost to ride a hot air balloon to high altitude and parachute back?
Like 50,000 ft or so?
I am thinking of a pilot and passenger, so the balloon is flown down and re-used.
Hmm, how would the free-fall times compare?
Where's me slide rule?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616988</id>
	<title>Work for NASA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269509160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work for NASA too. I see the big rockets all around me and now wonder how we could have possibly missed the weather balloon concept. The sheer novelty of the idea I am sure. I mean, who ever dreamed that a balloon could go so high? or that we could use micro-electronics for a timer, or just use a cheap digital camera. I am submitting a proposal tomorrow that we scrap the international space station, hubble telescope support, and next generation shuttle programs immediately.</p><p>We can just hire this Brit away from his backyard shed and use all the money we save on our empty-or-leaky pen project. Surely, there must be some type of writing utensil which would be cheap, not leak, could write even upside down, and perhaps even be erasable. If only such a thing existed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work for NASA too .
I see the big rockets all around me and now wonder how we could have possibly missed the weather balloon concept .
The sheer novelty of the idea I am sure .
I mean , who ever dreamed that a balloon could go so high ?
or that we could use micro-electronics for a timer , or just use a cheap digital camera .
I am submitting a proposal tomorrow that we scrap the international space station , hubble telescope support , and next generation shuttle programs immediately.We can just hire this Brit away from his backyard shed and use all the money we save on our empty-or-leaky pen project .
Surely , there must be some type of writing utensil which would be cheap , not leak , could write even upside down , and perhaps even be erasable .
If only such a thing existed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work for NASA too.
I see the big rockets all around me and now wonder how we could have possibly missed the weather balloon concept.
The sheer novelty of the idea I am sure.
I mean, who ever dreamed that a balloon could go so high?
or that we could use micro-electronics for a timer, or just use a cheap digital camera.
I am submitting a proposal tomorrow that we scrap the international space station, hubble telescope support, and next generation shuttle programs immediately.We can just hire this Brit away from his backyard shed and use all the money we save on our empty-or-leaky pen project.
Surely, there must be some type of writing utensil which would be cheap, not leak, could write even upside down, and perhaps even be erasable.
If only such a thing existed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616088</id>
	<title>Another low tech solution</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1269549540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want to play with this kind of thing, attach a cheap digital camera to a kite. Set it for video recording (so you don't have to hack in some kind of repeating timer), and launch the kite. You'll proably see a lot of swaying of the camera (play with different mounts), but you should be able to get some intresting photos of the area. It wont be 22 miles, but even a couple hundred feet can be intresting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to play with this kind of thing , attach a cheap digital camera to a kite .
Set it for video recording ( so you do n't have to hack in some kind of repeating timer ) , and launch the kite .
You 'll proably see a lot of swaying of the camera ( play with different mounts ) , but you should be able to get some intresting photos of the area .
It wont be 22 miles , but even a couple hundred feet can be intresting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to play with this kind of thing, attach a cheap digital camera to a kite.
Set it for video recording (so you don't have to hack in some kind of repeating timer), and launch the kite.
You'll proably see a lot of swaying of the camera (play with different mounts), but you should be able to get some intresting photos of the area.
It wont be 22 miles, but even a couple hundred feet can be intresting.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615968</id>
	<title>Why is this better than NASAs balloon program?</title>
	<author>dtolman</author>
	<datestamp>1269549060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean... whats the big deal here that NASA would care?</p><p>It has its own high altitide balloon program - where they do real science  - for weeks at a time - not just cool pictures for a few hours...</p><p><a href="http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/" title="nasa.gov">http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/</a> [nasa.gov]<br><a href="http://www.csbf.nasa.gov/" title="nasa.gov">http://www.csbf.nasa.gov/</a> [nasa.gov]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean... whats the big deal here that NASA would care ? It has its own high altitide balloon program - where they do real science - for weeks at a time - not just cool pictures for a few hours...http : //astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/ [ nasa.gov ] http : //www.csbf.nasa.gov/ [ nasa.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean... whats the big deal here that NASA would care?It has its own high altitide balloon program - where they do real science  - for weeks at a time - not just cool pictures for a few hours...http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/ [nasa.gov]http://www.csbf.nasa.gov/ [nasa.gov]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617368</id>
	<title>My kids started doing a low tech version at age 5</title>
	<author>davidannis</author>
	<datestamp>1269510360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>but the photos are only of where the balloon landed.  A better dad would have shown them how to use GPS and a timer.  At least we answered the question "Where does the wind go?"

<a href="http://www.ualconsulting.com/joshua-and-ari/weatherballoon.htm" title="ualconsulting.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ualconsulting.com/joshua-and-ari/weatherballoon.htm</a> [ualconsulting.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>but the photos are only of where the balloon landed .
A better dad would have shown them how to use GPS and a timer .
At least we answered the question " Where does the wind go ?
" http : //www.ualconsulting.com/joshua-and-ari/weatherballoon.htm [ ualconsulting.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but the photos are only of where the balloon landed.
A better dad would have shown them how to use GPS and a timer.
At least we answered the question "Where does the wind go?
"

http://www.ualconsulting.com/joshua-and-ari/weatherballoon.htm [ualconsulting.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616708</id>
	<title>Re:Altimeter</title>
	<author>Plekto</author>
	<datestamp>1269508380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person? If Virgin Galactic is going to charge $200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space, wouldn't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth?</p><p>*****<br>A more rational though less fancy method would be to use the balloon to carry the entire ship up and launch it from there.  The fuel savings and faster acceleration might actually enable them to obtain a reasonable orbit for a few minutes or hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person ?
If Virgin Galactic is going to charge $ 200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space , would n't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth ?
* * * * * A more rational though less fancy method would be to use the balloon to carry the entire ship up and launch it from there .
The fuel savings and faster acceleration might actually enable them to obtain a reasonable orbit for a few minutes or hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person?
If Virgin Galactic is going to charge $200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space, wouldn't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth?
*****A more rational though less fancy method would be to use the balloon to carry the entire ship up and launch it from there.
The fuel savings and faster acceleration might actually enable them to obtain a reasonable orbit for a few minutes or hours.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31653792</id>
	<title>Nasa called?</title>
	<author>Donovon</author>
	<datestamp>1269803040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My school (University of Advancing Technology) did this 2 years ago (google for UAT Near Space).  Not sure why NASA would be surprised it could be done on the cheap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My school ( University of Advancing Technology ) did this 2 years ago ( google for UAT Near Space ) .
Not sure why NASA would be surprised it could be done on the cheap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My school (University of Advancing Technology) did this 2 years ago (google for UAT Near Space).
Not sure why NASA would be surprised it could be done on the cheap.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617344</id>
	<title>Low cost satellite?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269510300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The question is, instead of a camera, have a ton of balloons bring up a rocket launcher of some sort, like these guys: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfJNNXTt85Q" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfJNNXTt85Q</a> [youtube.com] <br> <br>Could you then make the first satellite made by hobbyists...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The question is , instead of a camera , have a ton of balloons bring up a rocket launcher of some sort , like these guys : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = WfJNNXTt85Q [ youtube.com ] Could you then make the first satellite made by hobbyists.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The question is, instead of a camera, have a ton of balloons bring up a rocket launcher of some sort, like these guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfJNNXTt85Q [youtube.com]  Could you then make the first satellite made by hobbyists...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615630</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Kryptonian Jor-El</author>
	<datestamp>1269547860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I read an article about some kids doing that a while ago, but they did it better. They bought a prepaid cellphone with a GPS receiver built in that they reprogrammed to send them the coordinates of the balloon ever few minutes. The basket was a Styrofoam food container with chemical hand warmers that they used to keep the equipment warm. When the balloon landed, they just followed the coordinates the phone sent them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I read an article about some kids doing that a while ago , but they did it better .
They bought a prepaid cellphone with a GPS receiver built in that they reprogrammed to send them the coordinates of the balloon ever few minutes .
The basket was a Styrofoam food container with chemical hand warmers that they used to keep the equipment warm .
When the balloon landed , they just followed the coordinates the phone sent them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read an article about some kids doing that a while ago, but they did it better.
They bought a prepaid cellphone with a GPS receiver built in that they reprogrammed to send them the coordinates of the balloon ever few minutes.
The basket was a Styrofoam food container with chemical hand warmers that they used to keep the equipment warm.
When the balloon landed, they just followed the coordinates the phone sent them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615920</id>
	<title>Seen this before</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269548820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think I have seen this before with several small differences. Maybe the baloon altitude was not this much, but this is nothing new. Actually I think you can do much better with the smartphones available now, probably cheaper too.<br>Its easier to program smartphones (especially if you go with android). But kudos to the guy for taking nice pictures. I always enjoy these pictures.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think I have seen this before with several small differences .
Maybe the baloon altitude was not this much , but this is nothing new .
Actually I think you can do much better with the smartphones available now , probably cheaper too.Its easier to program smartphones ( especially if you go with android ) .
But kudos to the guy for taking nice pictures .
I always enjoy these pictures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think I have seen this before with several small differences.
Maybe the baloon altitude was not this much, but this is nothing new.
Actually I think you can do much better with the smartphones available now, probably cheaper too.Its easier to program smartphones (especially if you go with android).
But kudos to the guy for taking nice pictures.
I always enjoy these pictures.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31621264</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>LWATCDR</author>
	<datestamp>1269531960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Man don't they teach anything in the schools in Europe?<br>1. NASA has no jurisdiction anywhere including the US. In the US it would be the FAA<br>2. The ESA would also have no jurisdiction it would have clearly been the EASA. Why you would have put in the ESA I have no idea.</p><p>If they had used a rocket NASA would have liked to know what type. Why? NASA does build and use sounding rockets. They may have just wanted to see if they had any good ideas.<br>Or they may have just want to share how it was done with Schools and Universities as part of their education program.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Man do n't they teach anything in the schools in Europe ? 1 .
NASA has no jurisdiction anywhere including the US .
In the US it would be the FAA2 .
The ESA would also have no jurisdiction it would have clearly been the EASA .
Why you would have put in the ESA I have no idea.If they had used a rocket NASA would have liked to know what type .
Why ? NASA does build and use sounding rockets .
They may have just wanted to see if they had any good ideas.Or they may have just want to share how it was done with Schools and Universities as part of their education program .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man don't they teach anything in the schools in Europe?1.
NASA has no jurisdiction anywhere including the US.
In the US it would be the FAA2.
The ESA would also have no jurisdiction it would have clearly been the EASA.
Why you would have put in the ESA I have no idea.If they had used a rocket NASA would have liked to know what type.
Why? NASA does build and use sounding rockets.
They may have just wanted to see if they had any good ideas.Or they may have just want to share how it was done with Schools and Universities as part of their education program.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616050</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269549420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've read a handful of comments around the web by people who say things like "How come nasa has to spend all of that money, why didnt they think of this"</p><p>Its amazing how people dont realize that Nasa has been doing this for decades... You know back before GPS existed... which would have never have existed if it werent for Nasa and the DOD.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P People are bizarre.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've read a handful of comments around the web by people who say things like " How come nasa has to spend all of that money , why didnt they think of this " Its amazing how people dont realize that Nasa has been doing this for decades... You know back before GPS existed... which would have never have existed if it werent for Nasa and the DOD .
: P People are bizarre .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've read a handful of comments around the web by people who say things like "How come nasa has to spend all of that money, why didnt they think of this"Its amazing how people dont realize that Nasa has been doing this for decades... You know back before GPS existed... which would have never have existed if it werent for Nasa and the DOD.
:P People are bizarre.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31619982</id>
	<title>CAP cadets in Wisconsin did it too</title>
	<author>harry\_dolan</author>
	<datestamp>1269523200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://wiwgcap.org/wing/component/option,com\_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,8/limitstart,24</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //wiwgcap.org/wing/component/option,com \ _frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,8/limitstart,24</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://wiwgcap.org/wing/component/option,com\_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,8/limitstart,24</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617326</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269510240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>NASA engineers expect to receive paychecks.  They're funny that way.  Hobbyists working in their spare time don't get paid.</p><p>Assume an engineering makes $50k/year (rather low actually).  That comes out to $25/hour ignoring benefits.  Spending a mere 16 hours (two days, not much) planning, getting approval, building, executing, and reporting the results the project's direct labor comes to $400.  Add benefits, overhead for office space, tools, transportation, and you're looking at something like $1,000 + parts.  If it's done by a private contractor add 5-10\% to the top in profit.</p><p>It comes up every time some college kid or hobbyist makes a cool project on a budget $xxx.  The headlines always include the $xxx.  And invariably the $xxx excludes the the labor and overhead which is usually the most expensive part in the real world.  Sure large government organizations tend to be inefficient, but it's not a fair comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>NASA engineers expect to receive paychecks .
They 're funny that way .
Hobbyists working in their spare time do n't get paid.Assume an engineering makes $ 50k/year ( rather low actually ) .
That comes out to $ 25/hour ignoring benefits .
Spending a mere 16 hours ( two days , not much ) planning , getting approval , building , executing , and reporting the results the project 's direct labor comes to $ 400 .
Add benefits , overhead for office space , tools , transportation , and you 're looking at something like $ 1,000 + parts .
If it 's done by a private contractor add 5-10 \ % to the top in profit.It comes up every time some college kid or hobbyist makes a cool project on a budget $ xxx .
The headlines always include the $ xxx .
And invariably the $ xxx excludes the the labor and overhead which is usually the most expensive part in the real world .
Sure large government organizations tend to be inefficient , but it 's not a fair comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>NASA engineers expect to receive paychecks.
They're funny that way.
Hobbyists working in their spare time don't get paid.Assume an engineering makes $50k/year (rather low actually).
That comes out to $25/hour ignoring benefits.
Spending a mere 16 hours (two days, not much) planning, getting approval, building, executing, and reporting the results the project's direct labor comes to $400.
Add benefits, overhead for office space, tools, transportation, and you're looking at something like $1,000 + parts.
If it's done by a private contractor add 5-10\% to the top in profit.It comes up every time some college kid or hobbyist makes a cool project on a budget $xxx.
The headlines always include the $xxx.
And invariably the $xxx excludes the the labor and overhead which is usually the most expensive part in the real world.
Sure large government organizations tend to be inefficient, but it's not a fair comparison.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616144</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269549660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>yep. last september, a couple of kids from MIT... total cost was less than $150. <br>
<br>

<a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/" title="wired.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/</a> [wired.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>yep .
last september , a couple of kids from MIT... total cost was less than $ 150 .
http : //www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/ [ wired.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yep.
last september, a couple of kids from MIT... total cost was less than $150.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/09/the-150-space-camera-mit-students-beat-nasa-on-beer-money-budget/ [wired.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615362</id>
	<title>Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269547020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is awesome, kudos to the guy who pulled it off.</p><p>Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is awesome , kudos to the guy who pulled it off.Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is awesome, kudos to the guy who pulled it off.Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616134</id>
	<title>Re:Altimeter</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1269549660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person?  If <a href="http://www.virgingalactic.com/" title="virgingalactic.com" rel="nofollow">Virgin Galactic</a> [virgingalactic.com] is going to charge $200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space, wouldn't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth?</p></div><p>If those reality TV people can make a fake UFO to carry off their kid (or not), it can't be all that hard.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person ?
If Virgin Galactic [ virgingalactic.com ] is going to charge $ 200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space , would n't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth ? If those reality TV people can make a fake UFO to carry off their kid ( or not ) , it ca n't be all that hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person?
If Virgin Galactic [virgingalactic.com] is going to charge $200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space, wouldn't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth?If those reality TV people can make a fake UFO to carry off their kid (or not), it can't be all that hard.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616254</id>
	<title>This "story" is bollocks.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269550020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>"A guy phoned up who worked for NASA"?</em> Who? The gardener? Bollocks.</p><p><em>"He wanted to know how the hell we did it."</em>  Bollocks. Just bollocks.</p><p>Step 1 - Do something unremarkable with a balloon, duct tape and a camera</p><p>Step 2 -Submit story about it to Slashdot, complete with bogus claims regarding NASA adulation</p><p>Step 3 - Profit!!!!!</p><p>Are Slashdot editors becoming even more gullible, or are they that desperate for front page filler material?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" A guy phoned up who worked for NASA " ?
Who ? The gardener ?
Bollocks. " He wanted to know how the hell we did it .
" Bollocks .
Just bollocks.Step 1 - Do something unremarkable with a balloon , duct tape and a cameraStep 2 -Submit story about it to Slashdot , complete with bogus claims regarding NASA adulationStep 3 - Profit ! ! ! !
! Are Slashdot editors becoming even more gullible , or are they that desperate for front page filler material ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"A guy phoned up who worked for NASA"?
Who? The gardener?
Bollocks."He wanted to know how the hell we did it.
"  Bollocks.
Just bollocks.Step 1 - Do something unremarkable with a balloon, duct tape and a cameraStep 2 -Submit story about it to Slashdot, complete with bogus claims regarding NASA adulationStep 3 - Profit!!!!
!Are Slashdot editors becoming even more gullible, or are they that desperate for front page filler material?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616642</id>
	<title>temperature drop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269508080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>why does the temperature drop while the altitude is going down quickly.  Presumably, that's once the thing is using a parachute.  But why does it get so cold so fast?  It didn't get that cold on the way up.</p><p>http://www.flickr.com/photos/30721501@N05/4111728280/in/set-72157622821010632/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>why does the temperature drop while the altitude is going down quickly .
Presumably , that 's once the thing is using a parachute .
But why does it get so cold so fast ?
It did n't get that cold on the way up.http : //www.flickr.com/photos/30721501 @ N05/4111728280/in/set-72157622821010632/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>why does the temperature drop while the altitude is going down quickly.
Presumably, that's once the thing is using a parachute.
But why does it get so cold so fast?
It didn't get that cold on the way up.http://www.flickr.com/photos/30721501@N05/4111728280/in/set-72157622821010632/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616368</id>
	<title>Hate to kill the buzz here and all...</title>
	<author>CFD339</author>
	<datestamp>1269550380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But why was NASA spend any money on this at all?  They already have lots of really nice pictures from orbit pretty much any time they want them.   The project, while fun, doesn't do anything new, doesn't do it any more accurately or in any greater detail.  It doesn't have implications for new future launch platforms or any other new kind of science.   If the balloon had be smaller and had climbed less high, he'd have been little more than a peeping tom using a camera on a kite or balloon to see into neighbors yards.</p><p>I think it's awesome that the guy was successful and had a great bit of fun with it.   I hope he teaches his kids to think on their own as well.  I think it's a bit pathetic that NASA would care, and is more likely true that someone from NASA cared rather than the organization as a whole.</p><p>Either that, or someone with a security role just wanted to make sure the kid wasn't developing his own rockets -- which, now that I think about it, is pretty likely.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But why was NASA spend any money on this at all ?
They already have lots of really nice pictures from orbit pretty much any time they want them .
The project , while fun , does n't do anything new , does n't do it any more accurately or in any greater detail .
It does n't have implications for new future launch platforms or any other new kind of science .
If the balloon had be smaller and had climbed less high , he 'd have been little more than a peeping tom using a camera on a kite or balloon to see into neighbors yards.I think it 's awesome that the guy was successful and had a great bit of fun with it .
I hope he teaches his kids to think on their own as well .
I think it 's a bit pathetic that NASA would care , and is more likely true that someone from NASA cared rather than the organization as a whole.Either that , or someone with a security role just wanted to make sure the kid was n't developing his own rockets -- which , now that I think about it , is pretty likely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But why was NASA spend any money on this at all?
They already have lots of really nice pictures from orbit pretty much any time they want them.
The project, while fun, doesn't do anything new, doesn't do it any more accurately or in any greater detail.
It doesn't have implications for new future launch platforms or any other new kind of science.
If the balloon had be smaller and had climbed less high, he'd have been little more than a peeping tom using a camera on a kite or balloon to see into neighbors yards.I think it's awesome that the guy was successful and had a great bit of fun with it.
I hope he teaches his kids to think on their own as well.
I think it's a bit pathetic that NASA would care, and is more likely true that someone from NASA cared rather than the organization as a whole.Either that, or someone with a security role just wanted to make sure the kid wasn't developing his own rockets -- which, now that I think about it, is pretty likely.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615890</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>iamhassi</author>
	<datestamp>1269548760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"This is awesome, kudos to the guy who pulled it off."</i>
<br> <br>
It would be awesome if <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/09/13/1712216/Students-Take-Pictures-From-Space-On-150-Budget" title="slashdot.org">everyone</a> [slashdot.org] hadn't done this <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/18/1645216" title="slashdot.org">many times</a> [slashdot.org] <a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/10/16/0224256/Australian-Student-Balloon-Rises-100000-Feet-With-a-Digital-Camera" title="slashdot.org">already</a> [slashdot.org].
<br> <br>
If someone from NASA really called this guy then it's obvious no one at NASA reads<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.
<br> <br>
Please stop posting these stories, they were cool the first 3 times, now it's belongs to the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Redundancy-Office-of-Redundant-Redundancy/63006652919" title="facebook.com">Redundancy Office of Redundant Redundancy</a> [facebook.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>" This is awesome , kudos to the guy who pulled it off .
" It would be awesome if everyone [ slashdot.org ] had n't done this many times [ slashdot.org ] already [ slashdot.org ] .
If someone from NASA really called this guy then it 's obvious no one at NASA reads / .
Please stop posting these stories , they were cool the first 3 times , now it 's belongs to the Redundancy Office of Redundant Redundancy [ facebook.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"This is awesome, kudos to the guy who pulled it off.
"
 
It would be awesome if everyone [slashdot.org] hadn't done this many times [slashdot.org] already [slashdot.org].
If someone from NASA really called this guy then it's obvious no one at NASA reads /.
Please stop posting these stories, they were cool the first 3 times, now it's belongs to the Redundancy Office of Redundant Redundancy [facebook.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616444</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269550620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>(see "Moon Lost" in your favorite library)</p></div><p>For the record, I believe you mean <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost\_Moon" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">"Lost Moon" by Jim Lovell</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>( see " Moon Lost " in your favorite library ) For the record , I believe you mean " Lost Moon " by Jim Lovell [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(see "Moon Lost" in your favorite library)For the record, I believe you mean "Lost Moon" by Jim Lovell [wikipedia.org].
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616358</id>
	<title>Flickr set uploaded Oct 2008</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269550320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>wat?</htmltext>
<tokenext>wat ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wat?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616384</id>
	<title>Not really space . . .</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269550440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Headline reads: "Balloon and Duct Tape Deliver Great Space Photos". First of all, shouldn't it read "Balloon and Duct Tape Deliver Great Photos From Space"? Even so, I'm pretty sure this balloon was not in Space when the photos were taken. The whole rig must have been in Earth's atmosphere. If not, we've been spending way too much on rocket technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Headline reads : " Balloon and Duct Tape Deliver Great Space Photos " .
First of all , should n't it read " Balloon and Duct Tape Deliver Great Photos From Space " ?
Even so , I 'm pretty sure this balloon was not in Space when the photos were taken .
The whole rig must have been in Earth 's atmosphere .
If not , we 've been spending way too much on rocket technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Headline reads: "Balloon and Duct Tape Deliver Great Space Photos".
First of all, shouldn't it read "Balloon and Duct Tape Deliver Great Photos From Space"?
Even so, I'm pretty sure this balloon was not in Space when the photos were taken.
The whole rig must have been in Earth's atmosphere.
If not, we've been spending way too much on rocket technology.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31619708</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>pjbgravely</author>
	<datestamp>1269521700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny that both teams named it "Project Icarus". I wonder if that is why the stories Icarus had that irritating Sun front page in the later photos.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny that both teams named it " Project Icarus " .
I wonder if that is why the stories Icarus had that irritating Sun front page in the later photos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny that both teams named it "Project Icarus".
I wonder if that is why the stories Icarus had that irritating Sun front page in the later photos.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31618318</id>
	<title>Website down</title>
	<author>vikingpower</author>
	<datestamp>1269514440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Poor guy's website is fully choked with requests. Hats off to our British overlords !</htmltext>
<tokenext>Poor guy 's website is fully choked with requests .
Hats off to our British overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Poor guy's website is fully choked with requests.
Hats off to our British overlords !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615660</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269547980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...<br></i><br>They not only thought of it, they did it, although without the duct tape. However, they did use duct tape to keep the Apollo 13 astronauts alive on their way back from the moon (see "Moon Lost" in your favorite library).</p><p>A lot of early NASA weather baloons were seen as UFOs. NASA called the guy because they thought he launched a rocket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...They not only thought of it , they did it , although without the duct tape .
However , they did use duct tape to keep the Apollo 13 astronauts alive on their way back from the moon ( see " Moon Lost " in your favorite library ) .A lot of early NASA weather baloons were seen as UFOs .
NASA called the guy because they thought he launched a rocket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...They not only thought of it, they did it, although without the duct tape.
However, they did use duct tape to keep the Apollo 13 astronauts alive on their way back from the moon (see "Moon Lost" in your favorite library).A lot of early NASA weather baloons were seen as UFOs.
NASA called the guy because they thought he launched a rocket.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615914</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>g0bshiTe</author>
	<datestamp>1269548820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What does NASA care that this guy launched a rocket? He lives in the UK, as far as I know I live in the US and if I wanted to launch a rocket I don't have to answer to NASA. Maybe some branch of the government but surely not NASA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What does NASA care that this guy launched a rocket ?
He lives in the UK , as far as I know I live in the US and if I wanted to launch a rocket I do n't have to answer to NASA .
Maybe some branch of the government but surely not NASA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does NASA care that this guy launched a rocket?
He lives in the UK, as far as I know I live in the US and if I wanted to launch a rocket I don't have to answer to NASA.
Maybe some branch of the government but surely not NASA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31619860</id>
	<title>...but NASA has led the way...</title>
	<author>sugarmatic</author>
	<datestamp>1269522360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...in scientific ballooning. They do this, pretty much all the time, year around, *all* over the world, and have invested a great deal in programs to allow missions eventually last for several months on a regular basis. In the past, they have put sizable balloons up for a year or more at a time (in the 60's, no less).</p><p>Scientific ballooning is my current profession. Stunning inroads in astronomy and earth science are being created every year. The mission profile is rapidly growing.</p><p>They provide a large body of resources to amateur DIYers for their own EOS operations as well.</p><p>It's a troll of an article if I ever saw one. Very odd.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...in scientific ballooning .
They do this , pretty much all the time , year around , * all * over the world , and have invested a great deal in programs to allow missions eventually last for several months on a regular basis .
In the past , they have put sizable balloons up for a year or more at a time ( in the 60 's , no less ) .Scientific ballooning is my current profession .
Stunning inroads in astronomy and earth science are being created every year .
The mission profile is rapidly growing.They provide a large body of resources to amateur DIYers for their own EOS operations as well.It 's a troll of an article if I ever saw one .
Very odd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...in scientific ballooning.
They do this, pretty much all the time, year around, *all* over the world, and have invested a great deal in programs to allow missions eventually last for several months on a regular basis.
In the past, they have put sizable balloons up for a year or more at a time (in the 60's, no less).Scientific ballooning is my current profession.
Stunning inroads in astronomy and earth science are being created every year.
The mission profile is rapidly growing.They provide a large body of resources to amateur DIYers for their own EOS operations as well.It's a troll of an article if I ever saw one.
Very odd.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617364</id>
	<title>Re:Altimeter</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269510360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No need for a seperate altimeter. GPS also give elevation- as it did in this case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No need for a seperate altimeter .
GPS also give elevation- as it did in this case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No need for a seperate altimeter.
GPS also give elevation- as it did in this case.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617866</id>
	<title>Every once in a while...</title>
	<author>broknstrngz</author>
	<datestamp>1269512520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>a bored bloke will attach a camera to a baloon and make it to Slashdot. Just as every now and then another bored bloke will come up with a Google Maps mashup for the iPhone or , calling it "virtual reality". Move on people, move on...

Now, on topic. I'd rather raise an eyebrow when some dude goes into deep sea diving using off the shelf stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>a bored bloke will attach a camera to a baloon and make it to Slashdot .
Just as every now and then another bored bloke will come up with a Google Maps mashup for the iPhone or , calling it " virtual reality " .
Move on people , move on.. . Now , on topic .
I 'd rather raise an eyebrow when some dude goes into deep sea diving using off the shelf stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a bored bloke will attach a camera to a baloon and make it to Slashdot.
Just as every now and then another bored bloke will come up with a Google Maps mashup for the iPhone or , calling it "virtual reality".
Move on people, move on...

Now, on topic.
I'd rather raise an eyebrow when some dude goes into deep sea diving using off the shelf stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615658</id>
	<title>Slashdotted..?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269547920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep getting "Error establishing a database connection"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep getting " Error establishing a database connection "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep getting "Error establishing a database connection"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616442</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269550620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, it was done by a group of students at MIT on a budget of about half this one I believe.  I'm pretty sure it appeared on slashdot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it was done by a group of students at MIT on a budget of about half this one I believe .
I 'm pretty sure it appeared on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it was done by a group of students at MIT on a budget of about half this one I believe.
I'm pretty sure it appeared on slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616232</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Rip Dick</author>
	<datestamp>1269549960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"From the tone of the article, it sounds like they were impressed and/or curious. Any other articles you want me to read for you?" - BattleApple</htmltext>
<tokenext>" From the tone of the article , it sounds like they were impressed and/or curious .
Any other articles you want me to read for you ?
" - BattleApple</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"From the tone of the article, it sounds like they were impressed and/or curious.
Any other articles you want me to read for you?
" - BattleApple</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31619562</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269520860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He says he used a GPS system for retrieval. its hard to imagine any other way to retrieve it given that it could have fallen anywhere in the shire or beyond.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He says he used a GPS system for retrieval .
its hard to imagine any other way to retrieve it given that it could have fallen anywhere in the shire or beyond .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He says he used a GPS system for retrieval.
its hard to imagine any other way to retrieve it given that it could have fallen anywhere in the shire or beyond.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616222</id>
	<title>Re:Altimeter</title>
	<author>bhima</author>
	<datestamp>1269549900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Joseph Kittinger would agree.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Joseph Kittinger would agree .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Joseph Kittinger would agree.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617034</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>bit9</author>
	<datestamp>1269509280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Actually the "NASA" types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago, pre maned space flight.</p></div></blockquote><p>

Minus the GPS and digital camera, of course.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually the " NASA " types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago , pre maned space flight .
Minus the GPS and digital camera , of course .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually the "NASA" types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago, pre maned space flight.
Minus the GPS and digital camera, of course.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31621706</id>
	<title>Been there, done that on March 2009, $86 USD</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269535140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Been there, done that on March 2009:<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5939123.ece" title="timesonline.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Spanish students beat Nasa with balloon and &pound;56 camera</a> [timesonline.co.uk]<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; <a href="http://www.google.es/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=k9f&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;ei=JCqsS\_axMoHu0gTY87WSBw&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=spell&amp;resnum=0&amp;ct=result&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CAUQBSgA&amp;q=spanish+students+balloon&amp;spell=1" title="google.es" rel="nofollow">Spanish students balloon</a> [google.es]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Been there , done that on March 2009 :     Spanish students beat Nasa with balloon and   56 camera [ timesonline.co.uk ]     Spanish students balloon [ google.es ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Been there, done that on March 2009:
  
  Spanish students beat Nasa with balloon and £56 camera [timesonline.co.uk]
  
  Spanish students balloon [google.es]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616328</id>
	<title>This seems to get attention every few months</title>
	<author>ferrocene</author>
	<datestamp>1269550260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Slashdot has</p><p><a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/07/10/24/1813205/Huge-Balloon-Lofts-New-Telescope" title="slashdot.org">http://science.slashdot.org/story/07/10/24/1813205/Huge-Balloon-Lofts-New-Telescope</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>reported on this</p><p><a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/06/12/21/1328206/BLAST-Telescope-About-To-Launch-From-Antarctica" title="slashdot.org">http://science.slashdot.org/story/06/12/21/1328206/BLAST-Telescope-About-To-Launch-From-Antarctica</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>several times</p><p><a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/19/2312240/Space-On-a-Shoestring" title="slashdot.org">http://science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/19/2312240/Space-On-a-Shoestring</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>over the past</p><p><a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/05/05/16/1845220/DIY-High-Altitude-Ballooning" title="slashdot.org">http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/05/05/16/1845220/DIY-High-Altitude-Ballooning</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>few years.</p><p><a href="http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography" title="slashdot.org">http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography</a> [slashdot.org]</p><p>And each time</p><p><a href="http://www.sbszoo.com/bear/sable/sable3.htm" title="sbszoo.com">http://www.sbszoo.com/bear/sable/sable3.htm</a> [sbszoo.com]</p><p>people are surprised.  Maybe I read Slashdot too much.  Yeah, that's the problem...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashdot hashttp : //science.slashdot.org/story/07/10/24/1813205/Huge-Balloon-Lofts-New-Telescope [ slashdot.org ] reported on thishttp : //science.slashdot.org/story/06/12/21/1328206/BLAST-Telescope-About-To-Launch-From-Antarctica [ slashdot.org ] several timeshttp : //science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/19/2312240/Space-On-a-Shoestring [ slashdot.org ] over the pasthttp : //hardware.slashdot.org/story/05/05/16/1845220/DIY-High-Altitude-Ballooning [ slashdot.org ] few years.http : //science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography [ slashdot.org ] And each timehttp : //www.sbszoo.com/bear/sable/sable3.htm [ sbszoo.com ] people are surprised .
Maybe I read Slashdot too much .
Yeah , that 's the problem.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashdot hashttp://science.slashdot.org/story/07/10/24/1813205/Huge-Balloon-Lofts-New-Telescope [slashdot.org]reported on thishttp://science.slashdot.org/story/06/12/21/1328206/BLAST-Telescope-About-To-Launch-From-Antarctica [slashdot.org]several timeshttp://science.slashdot.org/story/06/09/19/2312240/Space-On-a-Shoestring [slashdot.org]over the pasthttp://hardware.slashdot.org/story/05/05/16/1845220/DIY-High-Altitude-Ballooning [slashdot.org]few years.http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/03/18/1645216/DIY-Space-Photography [slashdot.org]And each timehttp://www.sbszoo.com/bear/sable/sable3.htm [sbszoo.com]people are surprised.
Maybe I read Slashdot too much.
Yeah, that's the problem...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615906</id>
	<title>Prior Art</title>
	<author>Venotar</author>
	<datestamp>1269548820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was more impressed when that <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5005022/Teens-capture-images-of-space-with-56-camera-and-balloon.html" title="telegraph.co.uk" rel="nofollow">bunch of Catalan Highschool Students did the same thing</a> [telegraph.co.uk].  They also had some fairly <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/meteotek08/sets/" title="flickr.com" rel="nofollow">impressive photos</a> [flickr.com] as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was more impressed when that bunch of Catalan Highschool Students did the same thing [ telegraph.co.uk ] .
They also had some fairly impressive photos [ flickr.com ] as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was more impressed when that bunch of Catalan Highschool Students did the same thing [telegraph.co.uk].
They also had some fairly impressive photos [flickr.com] as well.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615542</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269547560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is awesome, kudos to the guy who pulled it off.</p><p>Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...</p></div><p>Actually the "NASA" types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago, pre maned space flight.  If you gave this guy hundreds of millions for a budget he would have probably built a fancy rocket too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is awesome , kudos to the guy who pulled it off.Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...Actually the " NASA " types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago , pre maned space flight .
If you gave this guy hundreds of millions for a budget he would have probably built a fancy rocket too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is awesome, kudos to the guy who pulled it off.Its also pretty sad that the engineers at NASA never thought of it...Actually the "NASA" types were doing that sort of thing many decades ago, pre maned space flight.
If you gave this guy hundreds of millions for a budget he would have probably built a fancy rocket too.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31617940</id>
	<title>For further info on the Near Space hobby</title>
	<author>rclandrum</author>
	<datestamp>1269512820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recommend a subscription to Nuts and Volts mag - they have been publishing high altitude balloon projects using low cost microprocessors and embedded systems for years now.  Great resource for h/w, robotics, and embedded systems hackers.  They are online at www.nutsvolts.com</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recommend a subscription to Nuts and Volts mag - they have been publishing high altitude balloon projects using low cost microprocessors and embedded systems for years now .
Great resource for h/w , robotics , and embedded systems hackers .
They are online at www.nutsvolts.com</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recommend a subscription to Nuts and Volts mag - they have been publishing high altitude balloon projects using low cost microprocessors and embedded systems for years now.
Great resource for h/w, robotics, and embedded systems hackers.
They are online at www.nutsvolts.com</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31616318</id>
	<title>Re:Cool</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269550260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you mean "Lost Moon". Or you could just watch the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo\_13\_(film)" title="wikipedia.org">Film</a> [wikipedia.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you mean " Lost Moon " .
Or you could just watch the Film [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you mean "Lost Moon".
Or you could just watch the Film [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1736252.31615836</id>
	<title>Altimeter</title>
	<author>2obvious4u</author>
	<datestamp>1269548580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wonder what the final altitude is before the balloon bursts?  The next person to make one of these needs to put an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altimeter" title="wikipedia.org">altimeter</a> [wikipedia.org] in it, preferably one that can can stamp the images with the altitude.
<br>
<br>
Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person?  If <a href="http://www.virgingalactic.com/" title="virgingalactic.com">Virgin Galactic</a> [virgingalactic.com] is going to charge $200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space, wouldn't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what the final altitude is before the balloon bursts ?
The next person to make one of these needs to put an altimeter [ wikipedia.org ] in it , preferably one that can can stamp the images with the altitude .
Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person ?
If Virgin Galactic [ virgingalactic.com ] is going to charge $ 200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space , would n't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what the final altitude is before the balloon bursts?
The next person to make one of these needs to put an altimeter [wikipedia.org] in it, preferably one that can can stamp the images with the altitude.
Also how hard would it be to make one of these to carry a person?
If Virgin Galactic [virgingalactic.com] is going to charge $200,000 to carry someone to the edge of space, wouldn't it be cooler to ride a balloon to space and then parachute back to earth?</sentencetext>
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	<title>FA is a troll</title>
	<author>GoodNicksAreTaken</author>
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	<htmltext>FA is a troll and the article likely would not have been published if it wasn't a UK news outlet and didn't include a jab at NASA. NASA funds Spacegrant Consortiums doing high altitude balloon research at several US universities. The one I worked on was very similar except we had a license amateur radio operator so we could legally use an APRS system for tracking the balloon. Back then where was no CHDK to use for a cheap Canon camera so camera was controlled by a 555 timer circuit wired to the shutter button. The highest cost was the helium when you figure in the cost of storing large tanks of compressed gas. Our system was slightly more expensive because the payload usually also contained a logging system that stored additional sensor data like temperature and pressure.</htmltext>
<tokenext>FA is a troll and the article likely would not have been published if it was n't a UK news outlet and did n't include a jab at NASA .
NASA funds Spacegrant Consortiums doing high altitude balloon research at several US universities .
The one I worked on was very similar except we had a license amateur radio operator so we could legally use an APRS system for tracking the balloon .
Back then where was no CHDK to use for a cheap Canon camera so camera was controlled by a 555 timer circuit wired to the shutter button .
The highest cost was the helium when you figure in the cost of storing large tanks of compressed gas .
Our system was slightly more expensive because the payload usually also contained a logging system that stored additional sensor data like temperature and pressure .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FA is a troll and the article likely would not have been published if it wasn't a UK news outlet and didn't include a jab at NASA.
NASA funds Spacegrant Consortiums doing high altitude balloon research at several US universities.
The one I worked on was very similar except we had a license amateur radio operator so we could legally use an APRS system for tracking the balloon.
Back then where was no CHDK to use for a cheap Canon camera so camera was controlled by a 555 timer circuit wired to the shutter button.
The highest cost was the helium when you figure in the cost of storing large tanks of compressed gas.
Our system was slightly more expensive because the payload usually also contained a logging system that stored additional sensor data like temperature and pressure.</sentencetext>
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	<title>NASA called?</title>
	<author>IronChef</author>
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	<htmltext><p>Who was it? Someone from the cafeteria? It seems like NASA engineers should not be surprised by the idea of using balloons to loft instruments.</p><p><a href="http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/" title="nasa.gov" rel="nofollow">http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/</a> [nasa.gov]</p><p>If the agency wanted to take equivalent pictures, I am sure someone there could figure out how to do it with less than millions of dollars and a rocket.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who was it ?
Someone from the cafeteria ?
It seems like NASA engineers should not be surprised by the idea of using balloons to loft instruments.http : //astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/ [ nasa.gov ] If the agency wanted to take equivalent pictures , I am sure someone there could figure out how to do it with less than millions of dollars and a rocket .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who was it?
Someone from the cafeteria?
It seems like NASA engineers should not be surprised by the idea of using balloons to loft instruments.http://astrophysics.gsfc.nasa.gov/balloon/ [nasa.gov]If the agency wanted to take equivalent pictures, I am sure someone there could figure out how to do it with less than millions of dollars and a rocket.</sentencetext>
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