<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_25_1243241</id>
	<title>Millions Continue To Click On Spam</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1269525480000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Even though over 80\% of email users are aware of the existence of bots, <a href="http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=9063">tens of millions respond to spam in ways that could leave them vulnerable to a malware infection</a>, according to a Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group (MAAWG) survey. In the survey, half of users said they had opened spam, clicked on a link in spam, opened a spam attachment, replied or forwarded it &mdash; activities that leave consumers susceptible to fraud, phishing, identity theft, and infection. While most consumers said they were aware of the existence of bots, only one-third believed they were vulnerable to an infection."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Even though over 80 \ % of email users are aware of the existence of bots , tens of millions respond to spam in ways that could leave them vulnerable to a malware infection , according to a Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group ( MAAWG ) survey .
In the survey , half of users said they had opened spam , clicked on a link in spam , opened a spam attachment , replied or forwarded it    activities that leave consumers susceptible to fraud , phishing , identity theft , and infection .
While most consumers said they were aware of the existence of bots , only one-third believed they were vulnerable to an infection .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Even though over 80\% of email users are aware of the existence of bots, tens of millions respond to spam in ways that could leave them vulnerable to a malware infection, according to a Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group (MAAWG) survey.
In the survey, half of users said they had opened spam, clicked on a link in spam, opened a spam attachment, replied or forwarded it — activities that leave consumers susceptible to fraud, phishing, identity theft, and infection.
While most consumers said they were aware of the existence of bots, only one-third believed they were vulnerable to an infection.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31618506</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1269515280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My mum owns a car. All she ever does is drop it off at the garage once a year. Why should owning a computer be any more than that? The main reason the car needs annual check-ups is because it has many physically moving parts that wear out. Computers are getting less and less moving parts. A modern house built to a decent standard shouldn't actually require that much maintenance. The reason they still do is because their average lifespan is many times that of your average computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My mum owns a car .
All she ever does is drop it off at the garage once a year .
Why should owning a computer be any more than that ?
The main reason the car needs annual check-ups is because it has many physically moving parts that wear out .
Computers are getting less and less moving parts .
A modern house built to a decent standard should n't actually require that much maintenance .
The reason they still do is because their average lifespan is many times that of your average computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My mum owns a car.
All she ever does is drop it off at the garage once a year.
Why should owning a computer be any more than that?
The main reason the car needs annual check-ups is because it has many physically moving parts that wear out.
Computers are getting less and less moving parts.
A modern house built to a decent standard shouldn't actually require that much maintenance.
The reason they still do is because their average lifespan is many times that of your average computer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31612298</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you missed your own point -- most users don't care. If the computer becomes unusable they call in the guy who will format the computer and everything will be good again for a few months. Heck, people even have sex without condom when they know the dangers. I bet most people here... well nevermind. But believe me, people have sex without condom, share needles and they know the dangers, they still do it. That's people for you...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you missed your own point -- most users do n't care .
If the computer becomes unusable they call in the guy who will format the computer and everything will be good again for a few months .
Heck , people even have sex without condom when they know the dangers .
I bet most people here... well nevermind .
But believe me , people have sex without condom , share needles and they know the dangers , they still do it .
That 's people for you.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you missed your own point -- most users don't care.
If the computer becomes unusable they call in the guy who will format the computer and everything will be good again for a few months.
Heck, people even have sex without condom when they know the dangers.
I bet most people here... well nevermind.
But believe me, people have sex without condom, share needles and they know the dangers, they still do it.
That's people for you...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610184</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>oldspewey</author>
	<datestamp>1269530100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There have already been numerous movies made featuring $COMPUTER\_TECHNOLOGY being used in ways that generally ruin the lives of the protagonists. Yet strangely, I don't see any improvement in the habits or knowledge of the average computer user.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There have already been numerous movies made featuring $ COMPUTER \ _TECHNOLOGY being used in ways that generally ruin the lives of the protagonists .
Yet strangely , I do n't see any improvement in the habits or knowledge of the average computer user .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There have already been numerous movies made featuring $COMPUTER\_TECHNOLOGY being used in ways that generally ruin the lives of the protagonists.
Yet strangely, I don't see any improvement in the habits or knowledge of the average computer user.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611414</id>
	<title>Scamming the Scammers</title>
	<author>JoelMartinez</author>
	<datestamp>1269534780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who's to say that since all these people are likely infected by some malware, that some of that malware isn't auto downloading/clicking on some of this spam? I mean, the people sending out the spam are already lowlifes, why wouldn't they scam their own clients (the spam products) to boost their own clickthrough ratios<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who 's to say that since all these people are likely infected by some malware , that some of that malware is n't auto downloading/clicking on some of this spam ?
I mean , the people sending out the spam are already lowlifes , why would n't they scam their own clients ( the spam products ) to boost their own clickthrough ratios ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who's to say that since all these people are likely infected by some malware, that some of that malware isn't auto downloading/clicking on some of this spam?
I mean, the people sending out the spam are already lowlifes, why wouldn't they scam their own clients (the spam products) to boost their own clickthrough ratios ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610676</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>Hoi Polloi</author>
	<datestamp>1269532380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also in unrelated news, millions now are st0ng-er in bed!  They l0St w3ight now!  And they are getting huge discounts on pfizer and v1@gra!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also in unrelated news , millions now are st0ng-er in bed !
They l0St w3ight now !
And they are getting huge discounts on pfizer and v1 @ gra !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also in unrelated news, millions now are st0ng-er in bed!
They l0St w3ight now!
And they are getting huge discounts on pfizer and v1@gra!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610040</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31612854</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269539100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Using mass media to educate the masses is an idea that I find truly horrifying. Orwellian nightmare. Humans have a right to be ignorant.

It's easy to see how the slippery slop argument might go here. If people are educated by a single source, they all do things the same way, lack of individualism and inoovation etc. etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Using mass media to educate the masses is an idea that I find truly horrifying .
Orwellian nightmare .
Humans have a right to be ignorant .
It 's easy to see how the slippery slop argument might go here .
If people are educated by a single source , they all do things the same way , lack of individualism and inoovation etc .
etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using mass media to educate the masses is an idea that I find truly horrifying.
Orwellian nightmare.
Humans have a right to be ignorant.
It's easy to see how the slippery slop argument might go here.
If people are educated by a single source, they all do things the same way, lack of individualism and inoovation etc.
etc.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610044</id>
	<title>REALLY!@?!?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>is this why my mom keeps sending me letters from an African Prince with millions?</htmltext>
<tokenext>is this why my mom keeps sending me letters from an African Prince with millions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is this why my mom keeps sending me letters from an African Prince with millions?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31613084</id>
	<title>Re:Smart software</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1269539880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or use spam to propagate malware whose only purpose is to forward the original spam message (without malware) to all of the infected users contacts, with an additional message at the beginning of the email "Hi everybody, I wanted to let you all know that I was very interested in this product/service and was willing to pay X dollars/pounds/euros for it."</p><p>Once the word spreads that this malware could be lurking in any spam, there should be a decline in the number of people willing to click on any spam, if only out of fear of social embarrassment.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or use spam to propagate malware whose only purpose is to forward the original spam message ( without malware ) to all of the infected users contacts , with an additional message at the beginning of the email " Hi everybody , I wanted to let you all know that I was very interested in this product/service and was willing to pay X dollars/pounds/euros for it .
" Once the word spreads that this malware could be lurking in any spam , there should be a decline in the number of people willing to click on any spam , if only out of fear of social embarrassment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or use spam to propagate malware whose only purpose is to forward the original spam message (without malware) to all of the infected users contacts, with an additional message at the beginning of the email "Hi everybody, I wanted to let you all know that I was very interested in this product/service and was willing to pay X dollars/pounds/euros for it.
"Once the word spreads that this malware could be lurking in any spam, there should be a decline in the number of people willing to click on any spam, if only out of fear of social embarrassment.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610050</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31613182</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269540180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While the issue may not be quite as widespread, there are still plenty of drivers who expect to be able to put gas in car and drive, with no maintenance ever required, especially not in a timely manner. The root problem is that people tend not to learn the reason why things work (or don't).  I've worked on many cars for friends. Many don't see a problem with driving with a check engine light on, a brake light that doesn't extinguish when the parking brake is released, brakes so worn that the pad backing is providing the friction, tires so bald they can't safely navigate a puddle, etc.  I think the lower propensity has more to do with the fact that we see the carnage of automobile accidents all the time. ID theft isn't as high visibility, people don't lose their lives, and in many cases, your bank/credit card/etc will forgive any charges not made by you.</p><p>Despite the annoyance, these idiots keep IT professionals and mechanics alike employed. Maybe you should thank them?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While the issue may not be quite as widespread , there are still plenty of drivers who expect to be able to put gas in car and drive , with no maintenance ever required , especially not in a timely manner .
The root problem is that people tend not to learn the reason why things work ( or do n't ) .
I 've worked on many cars for friends .
Many do n't see a problem with driving with a check engine light on , a brake light that does n't extinguish when the parking brake is released , brakes so worn that the pad backing is providing the friction , tires so bald they ca n't safely navigate a puddle , etc .
I think the lower propensity has more to do with the fact that we see the carnage of automobile accidents all the time .
ID theft is n't as high visibility , people do n't lose their lives , and in many cases , your bank/credit card/etc will forgive any charges not made by you.Despite the annoyance , these idiots keep IT professionals and mechanics alike employed .
Maybe you should thank them ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While the issue may not be quite as widespread, there are still plenty of drivers who expect to be able to put gas in car and drive, with no maintenance ever required, especially not in a timely manner.
The root problem is that people tend not to learn the reason why things work (or don't).
I've worked on many cars for friends.
Many don't see a problem with driving with a check engine light on, a brake light that doesn't extinguish when the parking brake is released, brakes so worn that the pad backing is providing the friction, tires so bald they can't safely navigate a puddle, etc.
I think the lower propensity has more to do with the fact that we see the carnage of automobile accidents all the time.
ID theft isn't as high visibility, people don't lose their lives, and in many cases, your bank/credit card/etc will forgive any charges not made by you.Despite the annoyance, these idiots keep IT professionals and mechanics alike employed.
Maybe you should thank them?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610876</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>rockbottoms</author>
	<datestamp>1269533040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A romantic comedy?  How about "You've Got Mail 2: Don't Open It!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>A romantic comedy ?
How about " You 've Got Mail 2 : Do n't Open It !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A romantic comedy?
How about "You've Got Mail 2: Don't Open It!
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31618374</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1269514680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, but computers aren't cars, are they? So why try to compare the complexities of building reliable automated vehicles to building easy to use computers?</p><p>The blame is with the computer industry. But not because they told people computers were easy to use. It's because they didn't follow up on it properly. Of course, that is beginning to change, as evident by the iPad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , but computers are n't cars , are they ?
So why try to compare the complexities of building reliable automated vehicles to building easy to use computers ? The blame is with the computer industry .
But not because they told people computers were easy to use .
It 's because they did n't follow up on it properly .
Of course , that is beginning to change , as evident by the iPad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, but computers aren't cars, are they?
So why try to compare the complexities of building reliable automated vehicles to building easy to use computers?The blame is with the computer industry.
But not because they told people computers were easy to use.
It's because they didn't follow up on it properly.
Of course, that is beginning to change, as evident by the iPad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610240</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610852</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Hoi Polloi</author>
	<datestamp>1269532980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How about we just have a TV show or a movie they want to watch, but teaches them?</p> </div><p>Great idea.  Here is a sample from the new soap opera, "One Operating System to Run"</p><p>"Madeline, we can't keep seeing each other like this."<br>"It's your wife, isn't it?"<br>"No, she doesn't care.  She hasn't since the accident.  It is...I can't say it..."<br>"Tell me Steven!  Tell me!"<br>"Fine, it is your hard drive, it is a mess."<br>"What?  How can you say that?"<br>"Admit it Madeline!  Not only is it heavily fragmented but it is full of bloated logs, unneeded installation downloads, duplicate mp3's, old temp files, core dumps, I could go on."<br>"Oh Steven, it's true!  It's true!  Please help me!  I love you!  I want to change!"<br>"Ok, just go to www.diskcleaner.com and download..."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How about we just have a TV show or a movie they want to watch , but teaches them ?
Great idea .
Here is a sample from the new soap opera , " One Operating System to Run " " Madeline , we ca n't keep seeing each other like this .
" " It 's your wife , is n't it ?
" " No , she does n't care .
She has n't since the accident .
It is...I ca n't say it... " " Tell me Steven !
Tell me !
" " Fine , it is your hard drive , it is a mess. " " What ?
How can you say that ?
" " Admit it Madeline !
Not only is it heavily fragmented but it is full of bloated logs , unneeded installation downloads , duplicate mp3 's , old temp files , core dumps , I could go on .
" " Oh Steven , it 's true !
It 's true !
Please help me !
I love you !
I want to change !
" " Ok , just go to www.diskcleaner.com and download... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about we just have a TV show or a movie they want to watch, but teaches them?
Great idea.
Here is a sample from the new soap opera, "One Operating System to Run""Madeline, we can't keep seeing each other like this.
""It's your wife, isn't it?
""No, she doesn't care.
She hasn't since the accident.
It is...I can't say it...""Tell me Steven!
Tell me!
""Fine, it is your hard drive, it is a mess.""What?
How can you say that?
""Admit it Madeline!
Not only is it heavily fragmented but it is full of bloated logs, unneeded installation downloads, duplicate mp3's, old temp files, core dumps, I could go on.
""Oh Steven, it's true!
It's true!
Please help me!
I love you!
I want to change!
""Ok, just go to www.diskcleaner.com and download..."
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610684</id>
	<title>Re:I click on spam...</title>
	<author>bendodge</author>
	<datestamp>1269532440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Newsflash: pedophiles are now classified as malware and will be quarantined. Gentleman, prepare your definitions!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Newsflash : pedophiles are now classified as malware and will be quarantined .
Gentleman , prepare your definitions !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Newsflash: pedophiles are now classified as malware and will be quarantined.
Gentleman, prepare your definitions!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610310</id>
	<title>This was an e-mail survay !</title>
	<author>SomethingOrOther</author>
	<datestamp>1269530700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><br>
From TF pdf, under methodology<br> <br>
<i>"Survey participants are all members of Ipsos' opt-in consumer panels in each of the six markets <b>and were
invited to participate via email</b>".</i> <br> <br>


So, people who respond to spam also respond to bullshit surveys via email. <br>Who'd a thunk it ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TF pdf , under methodology " Survey participants are all members of Ipsos ' opt-in consumer panels in each of the six markets and were invited to participate via email " .
So , people who respond to spam also respond to bullshit surveys via email .
Who 'd a thunk it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
From TF pdf, under methodology 
"Survey participants are all members of Ipsos' opt-in consumer panels in each of the six markets and were
invited to participate via email".
So, people who respond to spam also respond to bullshit surveys via email.
Who'd a thunk it ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610510</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds interesting</title>
	<author>Runaway1956</author>
	<datestamp>1269531720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It isn't paranoia when the bastards really are out to get you.  The ignorant, the stupid, and the clueless just don't understand that there ARE ten million parasites and predators waiting to suck their life's blood from them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't paranoia when the bastards really are out to get you .
The ignorant , the stupid , and the clueless just do n't understand that there ARE ten million parasites and predators waiting to suck their life 's blood from them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't paranoia when the bastards really are out to get you.
The ignorant, the stupid, and the clueless just don't understand that there ARE ten million parasites and predators waiting to suck their life's blood from them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610122</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31614658</id>
	<title>Likely to continue so</title>
	<author>OpenSourced</author>
	<datestamp>1269544740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you ever looked at a "normal" user interact with a computer? In my experience is more or less like this:</p><p>What's that? A mail about some interesting photos I must check out by clicking here... Uhm, I  don't know the guy sending it... and I have really no time for photos, but I have to check it to be able to drop it from my mind.</p><p>What's that? The Internet opened up. Ah! the photos must be there, but there is some stupid error message  that stops me moving  Yes!  Yes!  I said YES! Stupid machine!</p><p>What's that? Didn't work. No photos. Again the same message, or it's another one. Impossible to know since I never read the first one, they are all equal, anyway.</p><p>What's that? Again the same message. I'll have to read the message to see why I'm not moving forward. Stupid messages! What's an "X active" anyway, do they think I have time for all that. Oh! It seems that to go forward I have really to click "No" on the second message. Must be to avoid stupid users clicking blindly on "OK" all the time. Ain't I smart? I can now move. What? Installing what? Always waiting. Well, it seems to work now. Oh! Those are porn photos! Close, close, close. If the boss sees me I'm dead. Damn SPUM mail!</p><p>Ok, next point in my to-do list, banking. What's that? Yes , I want to ALLOW that program to access the site "allOfYourMoney.AreBelong.to.us". Stupid firewall. Won't let me alone to do my work.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>People, probably due to a nomadic origin or something, think in computers in terms of "going" places, "reaching" things and "routes" they know (To open the Excel you go here, press here). Messages from the computer are interpreted as obstacles that one must overcome to reach the goal. Some other paradigm has to be found for security in computers. I have some ideas, but too tired to write more. If some rich company making OS's is interested, I do expensive consulting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever looked at a " normal " user interact with a computer ?
In my experience is more or less like this : What 's that ?
A mail about some interesting photos I must check out by clicking here... Uhm , I do n't know the guy sending it... and I have really no time for photos , but I have to check it to be able to drop it from my mind.What 's that ?
The Internet opened up .
Ah ! the photos must be there , but there is some stupid error message that stops me moving Yes !
Yes ! I said YES !
Stupid machine ! What 's that ?
Did n't work .
No photos .
Again the same message , or it 's another one .
Impossible to know since I never read the first one , they are all equal , anyway.What 's that ?
Again the same message .
I 'll have to read the message to see why I 'm not moving forward .
Stupid messages !
What 's an " X active " anyway , do they think I have time for all that .
Oh ! It seems that to go forward I have really to click " No " on the second message .
Must be to avoid stupid users clicking blindly on " OK " all the time .
Ai n't I smart ?
I can now move .
What ? Installing what ?
Always waiting .
Well , it seems to work now .
Oh ! Those are porn photos !
Close , close , close .
If the boss sees me I 'm dead .
Damn SPUM mail ! Ok , next point in my to-do list , banking .
What 's that ?
Yes , I want to ALLOW that program to access the site " allOfYourMoney.AreBelong.to.us " .
Stupid firewall .
Wo n't let me alone to do my work .
...People , probably due to a nomadic origin or something , think in computers in terms of " going " places , " reaching " things and " routes " they know ( To open the Excel you go here , press here ) .
Messages from the computer are interpreted as obstacles that one must overcome to reach the goal .
Some other paradigm has to be found for security in computers .
I have some ideas , but too tired to write more .
If some rich company making OS 's is interested , I do expensive consulting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever looked at a "normal" user interact with a computer?
In my experience is more or less like this:What's that?
A mail about some interesting photos I must check out by clicking here... Uhm, I  don't know the guy sending it... and I have really no time for photos, but I have to check it to be able to drop it from my mind.What's that?
The Internet opened up.
Ah! the photos must be there, but there is some stupid error message  that stops me moving  Yes!
Yes!  I said YES!
Stupid machine!What's that?
Didn't work.
No photos.
Again the same message, or it's another one.
Impossible to know since I never read the first one, they are all equal, anyway.What's that?
Again the same message.
I'll have to read the message to see why I'm not moving forward.
Stupid messages!
What's an "X active" anyway, do they think I have time for all that.
Oh! It seems that to go forward I have really to click "No" on the second message.
Must be to avoid stupid users clicking blindly on "OK" all the time.
Ain't I smart?
I can now move.
What? Installing what?
Always waiting.
Well, it seems to work now.
Oh! Those are porn photos!
Close, close, close.
If the boss sees me I'm dead.
Damn SPUM mail!Ok, next point in my to-do list, banking.
What's that?
Yes , I want to ALLOW that program to access the site "allOfYourMoney.AreBelong.to.us".
Stupid firewall.
Won't let me alone to do my work.
...People, probably due to a nomadic origin or something, think in computers in terms of "going" places, "reaching" things and "routes" they know (To open the Excel you go here, press here).
Messages from the computer are interpreted as obstacles that one must overcome to reach the goal.
Some other paradigm has to be found for security in computers.
I have some ideas, but too tired to write more.
If some rich company making OS's is interested, I do expensive consulting.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610464</id>
	<title>Re:Old News</title>
	<author>vajorie</author>
	<datestamp>1269531540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Humans will always be the weak link in society.</p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Humans will always be the weak link in society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Humans will always be the weak link in society.

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611882</id>
	<title>Re:Call the It Dept!</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1269536220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>'Drive by downloads' and 'automatic execution' are as old as Windows itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>'Drive by downloads ' and 'automatic execution ' are as old as Windows itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Drive by downloads' and 'automatic execution' are as old as Windows itself.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31615092</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>EvilBudMan</author>
	<datestamp>1269546000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know when you have to take a shit, you take a shit. What's your point?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know when you have to take a shit , you take a shit .
What 's your point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know when you have to take a shit, you take a shit.
What's your point?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610240</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Spad</author>
	<datestamp>1269530340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The computer industry is largely to blame for user's attitudes; they've spent years convincing everyone that computers would make their lives easier and do everything for them without requiring any specialist knowledge and we all know that's bollocks.</p><p>We simply wouldn't accept it if the same proportion of people who outright refuse to even try and understand the basics of the IT tasks they perform every day did the same thing with cars or washing machines or lawn mowers. The roads would be carnage - tens of thousands of drivers refusing to learn how to use the stearing wheel or brakes because they "Just want it to take me to the shops, I dont' care how it works".</p><p>I really don't think there's any short-term solution to the problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The computer industry is largely to blame for user 's attitudes ; they 've spent years convincing everyone that computers would make their lives easier and do everything for them without requiring any specialist knowledge and we all know that 's bollocks.We simply would n't accept it if the same proportion of people who outright refuse to even try and understand the basics of the IT tasks they perform every day did the same thing with cars or washing machines or lawn mowers .
The roads would be carnage - tens of thousands of drivers refusing to learn how to use the stearing wheel or brakes because they " Just want it to take me to the shops , I dont ' care how it works " .I really do n't think there 's any short-term solution to the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The computer industry is largely to blame for user's attitudes; they've spent years convincing everyone that computers would make their lives easier and do everything for them without requiring any specialist knowledge and we all know that's bollocks.We simply wouldn't accept it if the same proportion of people who outright refuse to even try and understand the basics of the IT tasks they perform every day did the same thing with cars or washing machines or lawn mowers.
The roads would be carnage - tens of thousands of drivers refusing to learn how to use the stearing wheel or brakes because they "Just want it to take me to the shops, I dont' care how it works".I really don't think there's any short-term solution to the problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31612164</id>
	<title>Actually</title>
	<author>idji</author>
	<datestamp>1269537000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>CmdrTaco has been spamming us today with this story and "Yootoob iz dOWn!!!" stories</htmltext>
<tokenext>CmdrTaco has been spamming us today with this story and " Yootoob iz dOWn ! ! !
" stories</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CmdrTaco has been spamming us today with this story and "Yootoob iz dOWn!!!
" stories</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31613408</id>
	<title>Shit!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269540960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just clicked on it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just clicked on it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just clicked on it...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31625740</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269616560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The thing is, they don't know how to stop the negative consequenses, because the consequences don't seem to be tied to ignorant activity that caused the consequences. If cars were invisible and the only food was across the street, you'd get hit by cars a lot and not have a clue why you were continually getting knocked on your ass. You would blame the road, not the invisible cars you were ignorant of. You might decide to stop crossing the road, except then it's a choice between chancing being hit by an invisible car and going hungry.</p><p>The average computer user doesn't know how to not get viruses, except what McAfee and Norton tell them -- "buy our software". The only other way they know is to not use a computer, which is damned hard to do in modern times. And the average "idiots" have every reason to think that viruses are inevitable and there's nothing they can do about it except buy an AV package and take their computer to the Geek Squad (willful purveyors of ignorance) and pay way too much money to get the viruses cleaned out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The thing is , they do n't know how to stop the negative consequenses , because the consequences do n't seem to be tied to ignorant activity that caused the consequences .
If cars were invisible and the only food was across the street , you 'd get hit by cars a lot and not have a clue why you were continually getting knocked on your ass .
You would blame the road , not the invisible cars you were ignorant of .
You might decide to stop crossing the road , except then it 's a choice between chancing being hit by an invisible car and going hungry.The average computer user does n't know how to not get viruses , except what McAfee and Norton tell them -- " buy our software " .
The only other way they know is to not use a computer , which is damned hard to do in modern times .
And the average " idiots " have every reason to think that viruses are inevitable and there 's nothing they can do about it except buy an AV package and take their computer to the Geek Squad ( willful purveyors of ignorance ) and pay way too much money to get the viruses cleaned out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The thing is, they don't know how to stop the negative consequenses, because the consequences don't seem to be tied to ignorant activity that caused the consequences.
If cars were invisible and the only food was across the street, you'd get hit by cars a lot and not have a clue why you were continually getting knocked on your ass.
You would blame the road, not the invisible cars you were ignorant of.
You might decide to stop crossing the road, except then it's a choice between chancing being hit by an invisible car and going hungry.The average computer user doesn't know how to not get viruses, except what McAfee and Norton tell them -- "buy our software".
The only other way they know is to not use a computer, which is damned hard to do in modern times.
And the average "idiots" have every reason to think that viruses are inevitable and there's nothing they can do about it except buy an AV package and take their computer to the Geek Squad (willful purveyors of ignorance) and pay way too much money to get the viruses cleaned out.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31616378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610122</id>
	<title>Sounds interesting</title>
	<author>kiehlster</author>
	<datestamp>1269529860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sure they're only clicking because the link <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">sounds interesting</a> [youtube.com], completely ignoring their safety because they're not paranoid like us<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.'ers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure they 're only clicking because the link sounds interesting [ youtube.com ] , completely ignoring their safety because they 're not paranoid like us / .
'ers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure they're only clicking because the link sounds interesting [youtube.com], completely ignoring their safety because they're not paranoid like us /.
'ers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31613184</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>david\_thornley</author>
	<datestamp>1269540240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Drivers do use the steering wheel and brakes, just as computer users use the mouse and keyboard.  They often don't learn what goes on inside the car (and that's getting more esoteric over the years), but driving a car is an action that takes place in ways that people understand and can see, and feedback when you've really screwed up is pretty fast and definite.
</p><p>
And, of course, we do have tens of thousands of car-related fatalities a year, in the US alone.  If you read safety instructions for lawn mowers, you'll see things that you'd think would be blindingly obvious (or should I say bloody obvious).
</p><p>
Now, put somebody who's a competent driver in front of a computer.  In a car, it's easy to see that, if you continue on your course, you'll hit that building or post or group of teenagers.  In a computer, it's all nicely disguised.  It's as if malicious people were throwing cloaks of invisibility over obstacles.  Feedback can be swift, but it's often a case of the computer getting slow over time, as it provides services to multiple botnets.  In a car, I can see if there's a dangerous driver on the road (or at least I can see the vehicle).  On the net, we're putting the average user up against the most devious schemes of criminal masterminds.
</p><p>
User education is not, and never will be, the answer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Drivers do use the steering wheel and brakes , just as computer users use the mouse and keyboard .
They often do n't learn what goes on inside the car ( and that 's getting more esoteric over the years ) , but driving a car is an action that takes place in ways that people understand and can see , and feedback when you 've really screwed up is pretty fast and definite .
And , of course , we do have tens of thousands of car-related fatalities a year , in the US alone .
If you read safety instructions for lawn mowers , you 'll see things that you 'd think would be blindingly obvious ( or should I say bloody obvious ) .
Now , put somebody who 's a competent driver in front of a computer .
In a car , it 's easy to see that , if you continue on your course , you 'll hit that building or post or group of teenagers .
In a computer , it 's all nicely disguised .
It 's as if malicious people were throwing cloaks of invisibility over obstacles .
Feedback can be swift , but it 's often a case of the computer getting slow over time , as it provides services to multiple botnets .
In a car , I can see if there 's a dangerous driver on the road ( or at least I can see the vehicle ) .
On the net , we 're putting the average user up against the most devious schemes of criminal masterminds .
User education is not , and never will be , the answer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Drivers do use the steering wheel and brakes, just as computer users use the mouse and keyboard.
They often don't learn what goes on inside the car (and that's getting more esoteric over the years), but driving a car is an action that takes place in ways that people understand and can see, and feedback when you've really screwed up is pretty fast and definite.
And, of course, we do have tens of thousands of car-related fatalities a year, in the US alone.
If you read safety instructions for lawn mowers, you'll see things that you'd think would be blindingly obvious (or should I say bloody obvious).
Now, put somebody who's a competent driver in front of a computer.
In a car, it's easy to see that, if you continue on your course, you'll hit that building or post or group of teenagers.
In a computer, it's all nicely disguised.
It's as if malicious people were throwing cloaks of invisibility over obstacles.
Feedback can be swift, but it's often a case of the computer getting slow over time, as it provides services to multiple botnets.
In a car, I can see if there's a dangerous driver on the road (or at least I can see the vehicle).
On the net, we're putting the average user up against the most devious schemes of criminal masterminds.
User education is not, and never will be, the answer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610286</id>
	<title>Enter This Lottery NOW And Retire</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please click <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/25/calif-voters-decide-legalize-marijuana/" title="foxnews.com" rel="nofollow">here</a> [foxnews.com].</p><p>Good luck.</p><p>Yours In Astrakhan,<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please click here [ foxnews.com ] .Good luck.Yours In Astrakhan,K .
Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please click here [foxnews.com].Good luck.Yours In Astrakhan,K.
Trout</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31615172</id>
	<title>Re:Call the It Dept!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269546300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Beware of misspelled words!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Beware of misspelled words !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beware of misspelled words!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31615116</id>
	<title>You mean Adverts?</title>
	<author>BatGnat</author>
	<datestamp>1269546120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I never click on advertisements.  They all meet the criteria of spam.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I never click on advertisements .
They all meet the criteria of spam .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I never click on advertisements.
They all meet the criteria of spam.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611006</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1269533520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bingo!  I can't count the number of times I have heard someone claim that they didn't understand, and it was ok because they are not "computer" people, when the thing they did was not really "computer" related.  Things like, not turning a computer on, and wondering why it isn't working.  That isn't a "computer" problem.  That is an "Electricity" problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bingo !
I ca n't count the number of times I have heard someone claim that they did n't understand , and it was ok because they are not " computer " people , when the thing they did was not really " computer " related .
Things like , not turning a computer on , and wondering why it is n't working .
That is n't a " computer " problem .
That is an " Electricity " problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bingo!
I can't count the number of times I have heard someone claim that they didn't understand, and it was ok because they are not "computer" people, when the thing they did was not really "computer" related.
Things like, not turning a computer on, and wondering why it isn't working.
That isn't a "computer" problem.
That is an "Electricity" problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610350</id>
	<title>Re:Old News</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And the big red fart button will be the wedge that slips through that chink.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And the big red fart button will be the wedge that slips through that chink .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And the big red fart button will be the wedge that slips through that chink.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610040</id>
	<title>In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>IWaSBoRG</author>
	<datestamp>1269529380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Millions of computer users are idiots.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Millions of computer users are idiots .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Millions of computer users are idiots.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31612110</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1269536880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, it's a consumer electronics device.  I know if my TV goes on the fritz I should call a TV repairman, but I don't expect through normal use for someone to use my TV to steal my online banking passwords and clean me out.<br>
You can't protect a user against everything, but the default should offer more protection.  If you have a device aimed at consumers where a significant proportion of those users have problems, it's not a well-designed device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it 's a consumer electronics device .
I know if my TV goes on the fritz I should call a TV repairman , but I do n't expect through normal use for someone to use my TV to steal my online banking passwords and clean me out .
You ca n't protect a user against everything , but the default should offer more protection .
If you have a device aimed at consumers where a significant proportion of those users have problems , it 's not a well-designed device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it's a consumer electronics device.
I know if my TV goes on the fritz I should call a TV repairman, but I don't expect through normal use for someone to use my TV to steal my online banking passwords and clean me out.
You can't protect a user against everything, but the default should offer more protection.
If you have a device aimed at consumers where a significant proportion of those users have problems, it's not a well-designed device.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31614800</id>
	<title>The thesis is not supported by the evidence</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269545160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The claim "millions continue to click on spam" is not supported by the information they gathered; the portion of the population which has at some point or another ever clicked upon spam.  The rate of spam clicks could be sloping up, down, steady, zero; there isn't enough evidence in TFA to determine that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The claim " millions continue to click on spam " is not supported by the information they gathered ; the portion of the population which has at some point or another ever clicked upon spam .
The rate of spam clicks could be sloping up , down , steady , zero ; there is n't enough evidence in TFA to determine that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The claim "millions continue to click on spam" is not supported by the information they gathered; the portion of the population which has at some point or another ever clicked upon spam.
The rate of spam clicks could be sloping up, down, steady, zero; there isn't enough evidence in TFA to determine that.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610144</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Millions of <b>people</b> are idiots.</p></div><p>Fixed that for you.</p><p>Before the advent of computers, we used to say, "There's a sucker born every minute." Though I'm sure this estimate was off by an order of magnitude.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Millions of people are idiots.Fixed that for you.Before the advent of computers , we used to say , " There 's a sucker born every minute .
" Though I 'm sure this estimate was off by an order of magnitude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Millions of people are idiots.Fixed that for you.Before the advent of computers, we used to say, "There's a sucker born every minute.
" Though I'm sure this estimate was off by an order of magnitude.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610040</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609986</id>
	<title>can't win this battle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>there will be no end of this, not until we let morons use computers</htmltext>
<tokenext>there will be no end of this , not until we let morons use computers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>there will be no end of this, not until we let morons use computers</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611352</id>
	<title>Re:These users</title>
	<author>Ihmhi</author>
	<datestamp>1269534600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thankfully in recent years stuff like <a href="http://www.teamviewer.com/" title="teamviewer.com">TeamViewer has come along. I install it on all of my customers computers as a matter of course nowadays.</a> [teamviewer.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thankfully in recent years stuff like TeamViewer has come along .
I install it on all of my customers computers as a matter of course nowadays .
[ teamviewer.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thankfully in recent years stuff like TeamViewer has come along.
I install it on all of my customers computers as a matter of course nowadays.
[teamviewer.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610164</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610670</id>
	<title>Re:I click on spam...</title>
	<author>BenoitRen</author>
	<datestamp>1269532380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you think you shouldn't be careful or practice security because you're on GNU/Linux, you're part of the problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you think you should n't be careful or practice security because you 're on GNU/Linux , you 're part of the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you think you shouldn't be careful or practice security because you're on GNU/Linux, you're part of the problem.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610086</id>
	<title>BUT THERE IS MORE!</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1269529620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I continue to complain "SLOW NEWS DAY!" like that makes any differnece.
</p><p>
On the other hand, taco can post a "new" story pointing out this comment: "oldhack continues to complain."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I continue to complain " SLOW NEWS DAY !
" like that makes any differnece .
On the other hand , taco can post a " new " story pointing out this comment : " oldhack continues to complain .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I continue to complain "SLOW NEWS DAY!
" like that makes any differnece.
On the other hand, taco can post a "new" story pointing out this comment: "oldhack continues to complain.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610062</id>
	<title>Re:Click here!</title>
	<author>pinkushun</author>
	<datestamp>1269529500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Vigra wholesale 83\% off dear customer. Everything 80\% sale!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vigra wholesale 83 \ % off dear customer .
Everything 80 \ % sale !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vigra wholesale 83\% off dear customer.
Everything 80\% sale!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609984</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31623120</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>mahadiga</author>
	<datestamp>1269596460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ignorant != Innocent</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ignorant ! = Innocent</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ignorant != Innocent</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31616378</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>izomiac</author>
	<datestamp>1269550440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Millions of computer users are idiots.
</i>
Ignorant != stupid. The difference is, there's a cure for ignorance, none for stupidity. But <b>everyone</b> is ignorant.</p></div><p>What, then, do you call persistent, willful ignorance despite repeated direct negative consequences?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Millions of computer users are idiots .
Ignorant ! = stupid .
The difference is , there 's a cure for ignorance , none for stupidity .
But everyone is ignorant.What , then , do you call persistent , willful ignorance despite repeated direct negative consequences ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Millions of computer users are idiots.
Ignorant != stupid.
The difference is, there's a cure for ignorance, none for stupidity.
But everyone is ignorant.What, then, do you call persistent, willful ignorance despite repeated direct negative consequences?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610116</id>
	<title>Re:Smart software</title>
	<author>oldspewey</author>
	<datestamp>1269529860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I propose we link spam filters to the users bank account, so if they click a link or open an attachment they are automatically fined $5. The money collected could be split evenly between the SFLC and Sourceforge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I propose we link spam filters to the users bank account , so if they click a link or open an attachment they are automatically fined $ 5 .
The money collected could be split evenly between the SFLC and Sourceforge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I propose we link spam filters to the users bank account, so if they click a link or open an attachment they are automatically fined $5.
The money collected could be split evenly between the SFLC and Sourceforge.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610050</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610386</id>
	<title>Re:I click on spam...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>adada</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>adada</tokentext>
<sentencetext>adada</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610198</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1269530160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And to think, users were <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron\_(film)" title="wikipedia.org">once considered gods and creators.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And to think , users were once considered gods and creators .
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And to think, users were once considered gods and creators.
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609994</id>
	<title>Call the It Dept!</title>
	<author>mewt</author>
	<datestamp>1269529200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>And then they call the IT Dept. claiming that they did nothing..It's just started acting weird..all by itself..

I was just reading this cute mail I got about penises and viagra!</htmltext>
<tokenext>And then they call the IT Dept .
claiming that they did nothing..It 's just started acting weird..all by itself. . I was just reading this cute mail I got about penises and viagra !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And then they call the IT Dept.
claiming that they did nothing..It's just started acting weird..all by itself..

I was just reading this cute mail I got about penises and viagra!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611614</id>
	<title>Re:Call the It Dept!</title>
	<author>sarlos</author>
	<datestamp>1269535440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hehe...  my favorite moment while working in my college's Help Desk center for IT support for faculty, staff, and students...  There was this virus embedded in an email with a subject along the lines of, "See what the 7 Dwarfs got Snow White for her 18th Birthday."  I personally cleaned the virus off three professors' desktops, and we had at least a dozen cases overall.  Mysteriously, the professors were always out of their office when we came to clean up their PCs...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hehe... my favorite moment while working in my college 's Help Desk center for IT support for faculty , staff , and students... There was this virus embedded in an email with a subject along the lines of , " See what the 7 Dwarfs got Snow White for her 18th Birthday .
" I personally cleaned the virus off three professors ' desktops , and we had at least a dozen cases overall .
Mysteriously , the professors were always out of their office when we came to clean up their PCs.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hehe...  my favorite moment while working in my college's Help Desk center for IT support for faculty, staff, and students...  There was this virus embedded in an email with a subject along the lines of, "See what the 7 Dwarfs got Snow White for her 18th Birthday.
"  I personally cleaned the virus off three professors' desktops, and we had at least a dozen cases overall.
Mysteriously, the professors were always out of their office when we came to clean up their PCs...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609984</id>
	<title>Click here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://hotsexyviagrapanaloons4u/" title="hotsexyviagrapanaloons4u" rel="nofollow">FIRST POST!!</a> [hotsexyviagrapanaloons4u]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FIRST POST ! !
[ hotsexyviagrapanaloons4u ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FIRST POST!!
[hotsexyviagrapanaloons4u]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610206</id>
	<title>Re:can't win this battle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You must mean not <b>while</b> we let morons use computers. Or are you the moron and someone won't let you touch computers?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You must mean not while we let morons use computers .
Or are you the moron and someone wo n't let you touch computers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You must mean not while we let morons use computers.
Or are you the moron and someone won't let you touch computers?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31615142</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>Anne Thwacks</author>
	<datestamp>1269546240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>50\% of Americans are of below average intelligence, and 50\% below average level of awareness of internet security. Almost all the people who are in one of these categories, and 100\% of people in both categories, who actually use computers, are Windows users. Some are first time users on someone else's Administrator account </p><p>We are doomed, all doomed!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>50 \ % of Americans are of below average intelligence , and 50 \ % below average level of awareness of internet security .
Almost all the people who are in one of these categories , and 100 \ % of people in both categories , who actually use computers , are Windows users .
Some are first time users on someone else 's Administrator account We are doomed , all doomed !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>50\% of Americans are of below average intelligence, and 50\% below average level of awareness of internet security.
Almost all the people who are in one of these categories, and 100\% of people in both categories, who actually use computers, are Windows users.
Some are first time users on someone else's Administrator account We are doomed, all doomed!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611654</id>
	<title>Re:REALLY!@?!?</title>
	<author>GoogleWouldn'tDoEvil</author>
	<datestamp>1269535560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually your mom has other motives for aiding well endowed African princes.

BAZINGA!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually your mom has other motives for aiding well endowed African princes .
BAZINGA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually your mom has other motives for aiding well endowed African princes.
BAZINGA!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610044</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610164</id>
	<title>These users</title>
	<author>pinkushun</author>
	<datestamp>1269529980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're probably the users who believe that computers run off magic. For any above-absolute-beginner, common sense should kick in naturally.</p><p>This goes to show the level of incompetence, and talking from experience too:</p><p>Me: "Okay you're logged into the system?"<br>Cust: "Uh-yes"<br>Me: Click on the Reports menu item"<br>Cust: (silence) I don't see it.<br>Me: "Any errors pop up recently?"<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...(proceed a barrage of troubleshooting)...<br>Me: "What DO you see?"<br>Cust: "Just a white page with an image, that says 'Google'"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're probably the users who believe that computers run off magic .
For any above-absolute-beginner , common sense should kick in naturally.This goes to show the level of incompetence , and talking from experience too : Me : " Okay you 're logged into the system ?
" Cust : " Uh-yes " Me : Click on the Reports menu item " Cust : ( silence ) I do n't see it.Me : " Any errors pop up recently ?
" ... ( proceed a barrage of troubleshooting ) ...Me : " What DO you see ?
" Cust : " Just a white page with an image , that says 'Google ' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're probably the users who believe that computers run off magic.
For any above-absolute-beginner, common sense should kick in naturally.This goes to show the level of incompetence, and talking from experience too:Me: "Okay you're logged into the system?
"Cust: "Uh-yes"Me: Click on the Reports menu item"Cust: (silence) I don't see it.Me: "Any errors pop up recently?
" ...(proceed a barrage of troubleshooting)...Me: "What DO you see?
"Cust: "Just a white page with an image, that says 'Google'"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31620500</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>pinkj</author>
	<datestamp>1269526260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I really don't think there's any short-term solution to the problem.</p></div><p>

Eugenics?  It's not exactly short-term, but when we reach old age we would have a large crop of geeky and eager children to share stories about IPv4, Usenet and MUDs around the glowing 15" CRT.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really do n't think there 's any short-term solution to the problem .
Eugenics ? It 's not exactly short-term , but when we reach old age we would have a large crop of geeky and eager children to share stories about IPv4 , Usenet and MUDs around the glowing 15 " CRT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really don't think there's any short-term solution to the problem.
Eugenics?  It's not exactly short-term, but when we reach old age we would have a large crop of geeky and eager children to share stories about IPv4, Usenet and MUDs around the glowing 15" CRT.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610930</id>
	<title>Re:can't win this battle</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1269533280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes we can.  Advertise cyanide capsules as v1agra and sell them via spam.  Problem solved.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes we can .
Advertise cyanide capsules as v1agra and sell them via spam .
Problem solved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes we can.
Advertise cyanide capsules as v1agra and sell them via spam.
Problem solved.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609986</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611854</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1269536100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sweet jeebus, man, is it too much to ask for a car analogy?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sweet jeebus , man , is it too much to ask for a car analogy ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sweet jeebus, man, is it too much to ask for a car analogy?
!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610644</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610976</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Cousarr</author>
	<datestamp>1269533400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd say learning to use the steering wheel is equivalent to learning to use the mouse. As neither the car nor the computer are going to do anything useful without this knowledge. Learning to use the brakes however, is a fairly good analogy.
<br> <br>
Someone operating a motor vehicle who does not know how to use the brakes will operate his or her machine at high speed, wondering why it is not operating faster, careen around the road system posing a danger to themselves and others and will only stop when slamming into something and at the very least heavily damaging their machine.
<br> <br>
Someone who is not willing to understand what vectors malware uses to infect a machine will typically operate his or her machine at what is for them high speed, wondering why it is not operating faster, careen around the internet from page to page posing a danger to themselves and others and will only stop when receiving such a terrible infection as to bring the machine to its knees requiring either a format or someone very knowledgeable about malware to clean it up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd say learning to use the steering wheel is equivalent to learning to use the mouse .
As neither the car nor the computer are going to do anything useful without this knowledge .
Learning to use the brakes however , is a fairly good analogy .
Someone operating a motor vehicle who does not know how to use the brakes will operate his or her machine at high speed , wondering why it is not operating faster , careen around the road system posing a danger to themselves and others and will only stop when slamming into something and at the very least heavily damaging their machine .
Someone who is not willing to understand what vectors malware uses to infect a machine will typically operate his or her machine at what is for them high speed , wondering why it is not operating faster , careen around the internet from page to page posing a danger to themselves and others and will only stop when receiving such a terrible infection as to bring the machine to its knees requiring either a format or someone very knowledgeable about malware to clean it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd say learning to use the steering wheel is equivalent to learning to use the mouse.
As neither the car nor the computer are going to do anything useful without this knowledge.
Learning to use the brakes however, is a fairly good analogy.
Someone operating a motor vehicle who does not know how to use the brakes will operate his or her machine at high speed, wondering why it is not operating faster, careen around the road system posing a danger to themselves and others and will only stop when slamming into something and at the very least heavily damaging their machine.
Someone who is not willing to understand what vectors malware uses to infect a machine will typically operate his or her machine at what is for them high speed, wondering why it is not operating faster, careen around the internet from page to page posing a danger to themselves and others and will only stop when receiving such a terrible infection as to bring the machine to its knees requiring either a format or someone very knowledgeable about malware to clean it up.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611822</id>
	<title>Re:Call the It Dept!</title>
	<author>L4t3r4lu5</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/excel\_hell.html" title="thewebsiteisdown.com">For your enjoyment</a> [thewebsiteisdown.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>For your enjoyment [ thewebsiteisdown.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For your enjoyment [thewebsiteisdown.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610202</id>
	<title>I click on spam...</title>
	<author>mspohr</author>
	<datestamp>1269530160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I click on spam occasionally when it has be obfuscated enough for me to believe that it might be a real message.  I have even found a few real messages that looked like spam.<p>
However, I run Linux so I don't worry about viruses, trojans, pedophiles and other malware.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I click on spam occasionally when it has be obfuscated enough for me to believe that it might be a real message .
I have even found a few real messages that looked like spam .
However , I run Linux so I do n't worry about viruses , trojans , pedophiles and other malware .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I click on spam occasionally when it has be obfuscated enough for me to believe that it might be a real message.
I have even found a few real messages that looked like spam.
However, I run Linux so I don't worry about viruses, trojans, pedophiles and other malware.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31613850</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>Locklin</author>
	<datestamp>1269542160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Willful ignorance, for all practical purposes, is the same as stupidity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Willful ignorance , for all practical purposes , is the same as stupidity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Willful ignorance, for all practical purposes, is the same as stupidity.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31615064</id>
	<title>Re:can't win this battle</title>
	<author>cdoggyd</author>
	<datestamp>1269545880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Genius. I might help send those spams.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Genius .
I might help send those spams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Genius.
I might help send those spams.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31612886</id>
	<title>iphone mail always loads pictures</title>
	<author>adavies42</author>
	<datestamp>1269539160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>one of the few things i really can't stand about my iphone is that mobilemail, afaict, has no "don't auto-load pictures" setting. i worry from time to time about getting tracked or hacked by IMG links in spam that makes it past my filters. (this is particularly ironic given the 1.0.1 PNG jailbreak....)</htmltext>
<tokenext>one of the few things i really ca n't stand about my iphone is that mobilemail , afaict , has no " do n't auto-load pictures " setting .
i worry from time to time about getting tracked or hacked by IMG links in spam that makes it past my filters .
( this is particularly ironic given the 1.0.1 PNG jailbreak.... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>one of the few things i really can't stand about my iphone is that mobilemail, afaict, has no "don't auto-load pictures" setting.
i worry from time to time about getting tracked or hacked by IMG links in spam that makes it past my filters.
(this is particularly ironic given the 1.0.1 PNG jailbreak....)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611246</id>
	<title>Wow!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269534300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Survey detects idiots are plenyful. What next??!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Survey detects idiots are plenyful .
What next ? ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Survey detects idiots are plenyful.
What next??!
?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610316</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269530700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Millions of computer users are idiots.<br></i><br>Ignorant != stupid. The difference is, there's a cure for ignorance, none for stupidity. But <b>everyone</b> is ignorant. I know about as much about running a bar and construction company as Mike knows about running a computer. I have as little interest in learning about construction as he does about running a computer -- little to none. I just want a house to live in, he just wants his computer to work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Millions of computer users are idiots.Ignorant ! = stupid .
The difference is , there 's a cure for ignorance , none for stupidity .
But everyone is ignorant .
I know about as much about running a bar and construction company as Mike knows about running a computer .
I have as little interest in learning about construction as he does about running a computer -- little to none .
I just want a house to live in , he just wants his computer to work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Millions of computer users are idiots.Ignorant != stupid.
The difference is, there's a cure for ignorance, none for stupidity.
But everyone is ignorant.
I know about as much about running a bar and construction company as Mike knows about running a computer.
I have as little interest in learning about construction as he does about running a computer -- little to none.
I just want a house to live in, he just wants his computer to work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610040</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31622342</id>
	<title>Re:Call the It Dept!</title>
	<author>blai</author>
	<datestamp>1269543000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"it caught a virus"<br>
"what were you doing?"<br>
"NOTHING!!"<br>
Do we sound threatening?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" it caught a virus " " what were you doing ?
" " NOTHING ! !
" Do we sound threatening ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"it caught a virus"
"what were you doing?
"
"NOTHING!!
"
Do we sound threatening?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609992</id>
	<title>Old News</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Humans will always be the weak link in security.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Humans will always be the weak link in security .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Humans will always be the weak link in security.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610128</id>
	<title>we need to take advantage of this....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations!!!</p><p>Your name has been picked. You have just won millions of dollars worth of software. You are also granted the permission to give this software to all of your friends and family.</p><p>
&nbsp; Click on this link to claim your prize...</p><p><a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/" title="ubuntu.com" rel="nofollow">CLICK HERE TO GET FREE SOFTWARE!</a> [ubuntu.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations ! !
! Your name has been picked .
You have just won millions of dollars worth of software .
You are also granted the permission to give this software to all of your friends and family .
  Click on this link to claim your prize...CLICK HERE TO GET FREE SOFTWARE !
[ ubuntu.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations!!
!Your name has been picked.
You have just won millions of dollars worth of software.
You are also granted the permission to give this software to all of your friends and family.
  Click on this link to claim your prize...CLICK HERE TO GET FREE SOFTWARE!
[ubuntu.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31618786</id>
	<title>Re:we need to take advantage of this....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269516900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is almost as mean as linking people to the GIMP and saying its Photoshop.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is almost as mean as linking people to the GIMP and saying its Photoshop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is almost as mean as linking people to the GIMP and saying its Photoshop.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610128</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610050</id>
	<title>Smart software</title>
	<author>Elledan</author>
	<datestamp>1269529440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I propose we link spam filters into some kind of device which shocks the user if a link is clicked or attachment opened in a spam message. Maybe it'll make them finally learn not to open those things, much like how one teaches stubborn dogs not to pee against the couch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I propose we link spam filters into some kind of device which shocks the user if a link is clicked or attachment opened in a spam message .
Maybe it 'll make them finally learn not to open those things , much like how one teaches stubborn dogs not to pee against the couch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I propose we link spam filters into some kind of device which shocks the user if a link is clicked or attachment opened in a spam message.
Maybe it'll make them finally learn not to open those things, much like how one teaches stubborn dogs not to pee against the couch.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611380</id>
	<title>Re:I click on spam...</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1269534660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I run Linux, and I do worry about viruses, trojans, and other malware.</p><p>I'm sorry, I mean no offense to you personally, but this dangerous myth has got to stop.  Linux is <b>more secure</b> than Windows, but that does not mean that it is <b>absolutely secure</b>.</p><p>There are, really and truly, examples of Linux malware in the wild.  Processes do not need Root to run, they only need Root to corrupt your system.  Your userland privileges are still enough to install a malware executable in your \home directory.  Vulnerabilities in Flash and your browser of choice still affect you.</p><p>Rule #1:  Unless you know a link in your email came from someone you know and trust, never click on it.<br>Rule #2:  Never assume you know who an email came from.</p><p>And, if you decide to click on a link, at least check the URL first.  If your email client does not display URLs in floating text or somehow let you know what site you are about to visit, for the love of God change email clients right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I run Linux , and I do worry about viruses , trojans , and other malware.I 'm sorry , I mean no offense to you personally , but this dangerous myth has got to stop .
Linux is more secure than Windows , but that does not mean that it is absolutely secure.There are , really and truly , examples of Linux malware in the wild .
Processes do not need Root to run , they only need Root to corrupt your system .
Your userland privileges are still enough to install a malware executable in your \ home directory .
Vulnerabilities in Flash and your browser of choice still affect you.Rule # 1 : Unless you know a link in your email came from someone you know and trust , never click on it.Rule # 2 : Never assume you know who an email came from.And , if you decide to click on a link , at least check the URL first .
If your email client does not display URLs in floating text or somehow let you know what site you are about to visit , for the love of God change email clients right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I run Linux, and I do worry about viruses, trojans, and other malware.I'm sorry, I mean no offense to you personally, but this dangerous myth has got to stop.
Linux is more secure than Windows, but that does not mean that it is absolutely secure.There are, really and truly, examples of Linux malware in the wild.
Processes do not need Root to run, they only need Root to corrupt your system.
Your userland privileges are still enough to install a malware executable in your \home directory.
Vulnerabilities in Flash and your browser of choice still affect you.Rule #1:  Unless you know a link in your email came from someone you know and trust, never click on it.Rule #2:  Never assume you know who an email came from.And, if you decide to click on a link, at least check the URL first.
If your email client does not display URLs in floating text or somehow let you know what site you are about to visit, for the love of God change email clients right now.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31615564</id>
	<title>Re:can't win this battle</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1269547620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Ask your doctor if cyanide is right for you!  Warning:  May cause unintended side effects such as survival.  Consult your doctor if your rigor mortis lasts more than four hours."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Ask your doctor if cyanide is right for you !
Warning : May cause unintended side effects such as survival .
Consult your doctor if your rigor mortis lasts more than four hours .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Ask your doctor if cyanide is right for you!
Warning:  May cause unintended side effects such as survival.
Consult your doctor if your rigor mortis lasts more than four hours.
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610930</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610186</id>
	<title>If opening spam is harmful, you're doing it wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Under no circumstances should email programs open network connections to anything but the mail servers associated with the email account(s). No active ingredients (scripts) should ever be executed by an email program, neither natively nor in plugins. All requests for receive- or read-notifications should be silently ignored. Reading an email should simply have no effect beyond displaying the contents of the email on the screen. If that is not how your system is configured, you're doing it wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Under no circumstances should email programs open network connections to anything but the mail servers associated with the email account ( s ) .
No active ingredients ( scripts ) should ever be executed by an email program , neither natively nor in plugins .
All requests for receive- or read-notifications should be silently ignored .
Reading an email should simply have no effect beyond displaying the contents of the email on the screen .
If that is not how your system is configured , you 're doing it wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Under no circumstances should email programs open network connections to anything but the mail servers associated with the email account(s).
No active ingredients (scripts) should ever be executed by an email program, neither natively nor in plugins.
All requests for receive- or read-notifications should be silently ignored.
Reading an email should simply have no effect beyond displaying the contents of the email on the screen.
If that is not how your system is configured, you're doing it wrong.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31613250</id>
	<title>Re:Old News</title>
	<author>xmousex</author>
	<datestamp>1269540480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>we slowly march toward a truly secure os by removing the human factor incrementally.  until at some point it is autonomous and handles voice commands or just anticipates what your needs maybe be based on statistics.  The more we move in this direction, the less directly usable the machine becomes, the more high level, politically correct, demographically aware, and obscure the interaction layer gets.  The nanny machine your after should be here by around windows 11.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>we slowly march toward a truly secure os by removing the human factor incrementally .
until at some point it is autonomous and handles voice commands or just anticipates what your needs maybe be based on statistics .
The more we move in this direction , the less directly usable the machine becomes , the more high level , politically correct , demographically aware , and obscure the interaction layer gets .
The nanny machine your after should be here by around windows 11 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>we slowly march toward a truly secure os by removing the human factor incrementally.
until at some point it is autonomous and handles voice commands or just anticipates what your needs maybe be based on statistics.
The more we move in this direction, the less directly usable the machine becomes, the more high level, politically correct, demographically aware, and obscure the interaction layer gets.
The nanny machine your after should be here by around windows 11.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611830</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611830</id>
	<title>Re:Old News</title>
	<author>grumbel</author>
	<datestamp>1269536040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While it is true that humans are often the weak link in the end, there really is absolutely no good reason why clicking on the link should have negative consequences for the user. The whole mess we are in is simply because none of the OSs we use today where build with the security needs of today in mind. Even things like Linux completely fail, as they where build around the concept of protecting users from each other, but not around protecting the user from malicious applications, so once an application runs in the user space it has free access to everything the users has access to, which in a case of a desktop computer means simply everything.</p><p>There are a few steps here and there to improve the situation, but we are still far away from having an truly secure OS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While it is true that humans are often the weak link in the end , there really is absolutely no good reason why clicking on the link should have negative consequences for the user .
The whole mess we are in is simply because none of the OSs we use today where build with the security needs of today in mind .
Even things like Linux completely fail , as they where build around the concept of protecting users from each other , but not around protecting the user from malicious applications , so once an application runs in the user space it has free access to everything the users has access to , which in a case of a desktop computer means simply everything.There are a few steps here and there to improve the situation , but we are still far away from having an truly secure OS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While it is true that humans are often the weak link in the end, there really is absolutely no good reason why clicking on the link should have negative consequences for the user.
The whole mess we are in is simply because none of the OSs we use today where build with the security needs of today in mind.
Even things like Linux completely fail, as they where build around the concept of protecting users from each other, but not around protecting the user from malicious applications, so once an application runs in the user space it has free access to everything the users has access to, which in a case of a desktop computer means simply everything.There are a few steps here and there to improve the situation, but we are still far away from having an truly secure OS.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31609992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610218</id>
	<title>Some spam messages...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... look legitimate (from the subject) and you have to see if they are spam or real email.  Some spam generators have been getting better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... look legitimate ( from the subject ) and you have to see if they are spam or real email .
Some spam generators have been getting better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... look legitimate (from the subject) and you have to see if they are spam or real email.
Some spam generators have been getting better.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31615096</id>
	<title>stupid != Ignorant</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269546000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>Millions of computer users are idiots.<br></i><br>Ignorant != stupid. The difference is, there's a cure for ignorance, none for stupidity. But <b>everyone</b> is ignorant. I know about as much about running a bar and construction company as Mike knows about running a computer. I have as little interest in learning about construction as he does about running a computer -- little to none. I just want a house to live in, he just wants his computer to work.</p></div><p>stupid != Ignorant. The issue here is if you are given the opportunity to learn and can't or refuse to, you get to move from the ignorant box to the stupid box.<br>So Mike uses a computer a lot and knows nothing about it? Is there ANYTHING else in Mike's life where this sort of policy is acceptable? Mike drives to work but knows nothing about driving, he just wants to get to work. When Mike was in the Marines he knew nothing about his gun he just wanted it to shoot.<br>You probably spend close to 0 time running a construction company, Mike probably lives in front of the computer which runs his Construction company. Are you seeing a difference here? Mike doesn't like knowing about things that are important to his life, you fail to care about what may be useless trivia. Mike doesn't like to waste calories thinking I'm betting.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Millions of computer users are idiots.Ignorant ! = stupid .
The difference is , there 's a cure for ignorance , none for stupidity .
But everyone is ignorant .
I know about as much about running a bar and construction company as Mike knows about running a computer .
I have as little interest in learning about construction as he does about running a computer -- little to none .
I just want a house to live in , he just wants his computer to work.stupid ! = Ignorant .
The issue here is if you are given the opportunity to learn and ca n't or refuse to , you get to move from the ignorant box to the stupid box.So Mike uses a computer a lot and knows nothing about it ?
Is there ANYTHING else in Mike 's life where this sort of policy is acceptable ?
Mike drives to work but knows nothing about driving , he just wants to get to work .
When Mike was in the Marines he knew nothing about his gun he just wanted it to shoot.You probably spend close to 0 time running a construction company , Mike probably lives in front of the computer which runs his Construction company .
Are you seeing a difference here ?
Mike does n't like knowing about things that are important to his life , you fail to care about what may be useless trivia .
Mike does n't like to waste calories thinking I 'm betting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Millions of computer users are idiots.Ignorant != stupid.
The difference is, there's a cure for ignorance, none for stupidity.
But everyone is ignorant.
I know about as much about running a bar and construction company as Mike knows about running a computer.
I have as little interest in learning about construction as he does about running a computer -- little to none.
I just want a house to live in, he just wants his computer to work.stupid != Ignorant.
The issue here is if you are given the opportunity to learn and can't or refuse to, you get to move from the ignorant box to the stupid box.So Mike uses a computer a lot and knows nothing about it?
Is there ANYTHING else in Mike's life where this sort of policy is acceptable?
Mike drives to work but knows nothing about driving, he just wants to get to work.
When Mike was in the Marines he knew nothing about his gun he just wanted it to shoot.You probably spend close to 0 time running a construction company, Mike probably lives in front of the computer which runs his Construction company.
Are you seeing a difference here?
Mike doesn't like knowing about things that are important to his life, you fail to care about what may be useless trivia.
Mike doesn't like to waste calories thinking I'm betting.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610316</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611876</id>
	<title>Re:Old News</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> that chink.</p></div><p>You're racist.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>that chink.You 're racist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> that chink.You're racist.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610350</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610444</id>
	<title>Re:I click on spam...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>Running Linux doesn't make you safe at all, man.<br>Instead of clicking on links in message that "might be" real, have a look at the message source. Safer.</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>Running Linux does n't make you safe at all , man.Instead of clicking on links in message that " might be " real , have a look at the message source .
Safer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Running Linux doesn't make you safe at all, man.Instead of clicking on links in message that "might be" real, have a look at the message source.
Safer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610202</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610644</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>Nemyst</author>
	<datestamp>1269532320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yet you know that if your roof leaks you can either look at the tiles and try to patch it yourself, or you call a professional to do it for you. You know that if your house is dirty, you must clean it. You know that if you get bugs, you must call an exterminator to get rid of them.<br>
<br>
You know that if you buy a house, you must be ready to maintain it if you don't want it to fall apart. The same SHOULD be said of computer owners, yet this is not the case.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet you know that if your roof leaks you can either look at the tiles and try to patch it yourself , or you call a professional to do it for you .
You know that if your house is dirty , you must clean it .
You know that if you get bugs , you must call an exterminator to get rid of them .
You know that if you buy a house , you must be ready to maintain it if you do n't want it to fall apart .
The same SHOULD be said of computer owners , yet this is not the case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yet you know that if your roof leaks you can either look at the tiles and try to patch it yourself, or you call a professional to do it for you.
You know that if your house is dirty, you must clean it.
You know that if you get bugs, you must call an exterminator to get rid of them.
You know that if you buy a house, you must be ready to maintain it if you don't want it to fall apart.
The same SHOULD be said of computer owners, yet this is not the case.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610558</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; The roads would be carnage - tens of thousands of drivers refusing to learn how to use the stearing wheel or brakes because they "Just want it to take me to the shops, I dont' care how it works".<br>Well isn't it exactly what is happening ?<br>&gt; There were about 2.9 million injury cases and 42636 car accident deaths.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... (some car lawyer site...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; The roads would be carnage - tens of thousands of drivers refusing to learn how to use the stearing wheel or brakes because they " Just want it to take me to the shops , I dont ' care how it works " .Well is n't it exactly what is happening ? &gt; There were about 2.9 million injury cases and 42636 car accident deaths .
... ( some car lawyer site... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; The roads would be carnage - tens of thousands of drivers refusing to learn how to use the stearing wheel or brakes because they "Just want it to take me to the shops, I dont' care how it works".Well isn't it exactly what is happening ?&gt; There were about 2.9 million injury cases and 42636 car accident deaths.
... (some car lawyer site...)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31611852</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269536100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who the hell is Mike? And why would you use a proper name to describe somebody that nobody knows when a descriptive term like brother or uncle would do just as well without every reader thinking to themselves, "Who the hell is Mike?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who the hell is Mike ?
And why would you use a proper name to describe somebody that nobody knows when a descriptive term like brother or uncle would do just as well without every reader thinking to themselves , " Who the hell is Mike ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who the hell is Mike?
And why would you use a proper name to describe somebody that nobody knows when a descriptive term like brother or uncle would do just as well without every reader thinking to themselves, "Who the hell is Mike?
"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610316</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610420</id>
	<title>Re:Users.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually we should just make buying from spammer, and letting your computer be infected a punishable misdemeanour.<br>Virus, Trojans, etc..</p><p>First infection: 50$<br>Second infection: 200$<br>Third infection: 500$ and you have to learn Linux<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>Spam</p><p>First time: 50$<br>Second time: 500$<br>Third time: civil bankruptcy</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually we should just make buying from spammer , and letting your computer be infected a punishable misdemeanour.Virus , Trojans , etc..First infection : 50 $ Second infection : 200 $ Third infection : 500 $ and you have to learn Linux : - ) SpamFirst time : 50 $ Second time : 500 $ Third time : civil bankruptcy  </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually we should just make buying from spammer, and letting your computer be infected a punishable misdemeanour.Virus, Trojans, etc..First infection: 50$Second infection: 200$Third infection: 500$ and you have to learn Linux :-)SpamFirst time: 50$Second time: 500$Third time: civil bankruptcy
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610392</id>
	<title>Re:Click here!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269531120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I resent the judgement that my clickable spam was "offtopic"..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I resent the judgement that my clickable spam was " offtopic " . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I resent the judgement that my clickable spam was "offtopic"..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610000</id>
	<title>dude</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I didn't even know you could enlarge your penis?! SWEET!!!! no more laughing at me in the locker room</htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't even know you could enlarge your penis ? !
SWEET ! ! ! ! no more laughing at me in the locker room</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't even know you could enlarge your penis?!
SWEET!!!! no more laughing at me in the locker room</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610624</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This just shows that 80\% of the population are idiots...and they VOTE!</p><p>Hopefully they can't find the voting location either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This just shows that 80 \ % of the population are idiots...and they VOTE ! Hopefully they ca n't find the voting location either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This just shows that 80\% of the population are idiots...and they VOTE!Hopefully they can't find the voting location either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610036</id>
	<title>Users.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Users are ignorant to computers. Users have always been ignorant. We can do whatever we can to protect them, either through education, security, antivirus, and anti-malware, but the problem is they aren't geeky tech-people that keep us and like this stuff enough to learn it.
<br> <br>
How about we just have a TV show or a movie they want to watch, but teaches them? We could make it a romantic comedy for the ladies or a war movie for the guys, but insert in proper computer use and warnings about spam, viruses, phishing, fraud, etc. We need some kind of mass media to actually teach the masses, and it needs to be a regular interval to keep up with the problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Users are ignorant to computers .
Users have always been ignorant .
We can do whatever we can to protect them , either through education , security , antivirus , and anti-malware , but the problem is they are n't geeky tech-people that keep us and like this stuff enough to learn it .
How about we just have a TV show or a movie they want to watch , but teaches them ?
We could make it a romantic comedy for the ladies or a war movie for the guys , but insert in proper computer use and warnings about spam , viruses , phishing , fraud , etc .
We need some kind of mass media to actually teach the masses , and it needs to be a regular interval to keep up with the problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Users are ignorant to computers.
Users have always been ignorant.
We can do whatever we can to protect them, either through education, security, antivirus, and anti-malware, but the problem is they aren't geeky tech-people that keep us and like this stuff enough to learn it.
How about we just have a TV show or a movie they want to watch, but teaches them?
We could make it a romantic comedy for the ladies or a war movie for the guys, but insert in proper computer use and warnings about spam, viruses, phishing, fraud, etc.
We need some kind of mass media to actually teach the masses, and it needs to be a regular interval to keep up with the problems.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610072</id>
	<title>You can't cure stupid...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269529560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nm</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_25_1243241.31610486</id>
	<title>Re:In completely unrelated news....</title>
	<author>roman\_mir</author>
	<datestamp>1269531600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most people in the world are ignorant fools, most people in the world behave like idiots at one time or another, unfortunately it is what it is, intelligence is not prerequisite to survival apparently.  Also it is probably true that a very large percentage of the population will also do pretty much anything for a buck, combining these facts together and you get a pretty sad place to live in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most people in the world are ignorant fools , most people in the world behave like idiots at one time or another , unfortunately it is what it is , intelligence is not prerequisite to survival apparently .
Also it is probably true that a very large percentage of the population will also do pretty much anything for a buck , combining these facts together and you get a pretty sad place to live in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most people in the world are ignorant fools, most people in the world behave like idiots at one time or another, unfortunately it is what it is, intelligence is not prerequisite to survival apparently.
Also it is probably true that a very large percentage of the population will also do pretty much anything for a buck, combining these facts together and you get a pretty sad place to live in.</sentencetext>
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