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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_24_2223216</id>
	<title>GM Unveils Networked Electric Mini Cars</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1269428940000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>suraj.sun writes <i>"GM introduced its <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gm-electric-networked-vehicle">Electric Networked Vehicle prototypes</a>, one third the size of a typical car, as a way to reduce big urban auto emissions and traffic congestion. The EN-V relies on dynamic stabilization technology similar to that of the one-person Segway scooter to keep its balance, and can be operated autonomously or under manual control. In autonomous mode the EN-V is designed to use high-speed wireless connectivity and GPS navigation to automatically select the fastest route, based on real-time traffic conditions gleaned from the Web or some other networked source of traffic information."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>suraj.sun writes " GM introduced its Electric Networked Vehicle prototypes , one third the size of a typical car , as a way to reduce big urban auto emissions and traffic congestion .
The EN-V relies on dynamic stabilization technology similar to that of the one-person Segway scooter to keep its balance , and can be operated autonomously or under manual control .
In autonomous mode the EN-V is designed to use high-speed wireless connectivity and GPS navigation to automatically select the fastest route , based on real-time traffic conditions gleaned from the Web or some other networked source of traffic information .
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<sentencetext>suraj.sun writes "GM introduced its Electric Networked Vehicle prototypes, one third the size of a typical car, as a way to reduce big urban auto emissions and traffic congestion.
The EN-V relies on dynamic stabilization technology similar to that of the one-person Segway scooter to keep its balance, and can be operated autonomously or under manual control.
In autonomous mode the EN-V is designed to use high-speed wireless connectivity and GPS navigation to automatically select the fastest route, based on real-time traffic conditions gleaned from the Web or some other networked source of traffic information.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31614148</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>MrResistor</author>
	<datestamp>1269542940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want autonomous driving now. There are all kinds of things I would rather do for 2 hours a day than stare at the bumper of the guy in front of me. So what if it's not practical on surface streets right now? The small amount of surface street driving I do is not sucking away significant portions of my life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want autonomous driving now .
There are all kinds of things I would rather do for 2 hours a day than stare at the bumper of the guy in front of me .
So what if it 's not practical on surface streets right now ?
The small amount of surface street driving I do is not sucking away significant portions of my life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want autonomous driving now.
There are all kinds of things I would rather do for 2 hours a day than stare at the bumper of the guy in front of me.
So what if it's not practical on surface streets right now?
The small amount of surface street driving I do is not sucking away significant portions of my life.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605298</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1269433380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Why does it have "dynamic stabilization technology" instead of a possibly passive third wheel?</p></div></blockquote><p>Lower weight, lower rolling friction, probably a lower parts count, probably  cheaper to manufacture.<br>
&nbsp; </p><blockquote><div><p>Wouldn't it be simpler, cheaper to manufacture and maintain, and much thriftier in its energy use?</p></div></blockquote><p>Maybe, maybe not.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Why does it have " dynamic stabilization technology " instead of a possibly passive third wheel ? Lower weight , lower rolling friction , probably a lower parts count , probably cheaper to manufacture .
  Would n't it be simpler , cheaper to manufacture and maintain , and much thriftier in its energy use ? Maybe , maybe not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does it have "dynamic stabilization technology" instead of a possibly passive third wheel?Lower weight, lower rolling friction, probably a lower parts count, probably  cheaper to manufacture.
  Wouldn't it be simpler, cheaper to manufacture and maintain, and much thriftier in its energy use?Maybe, maybe not.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31609792</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269528000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now</i></p><p>With gas prices hovering around three bucks NOW, cheap transportation <i>is</i> what folks want now. Plus, this is a concept car; concept cars are supposed to be what people want now but can't have, or what people are likely to want in the future.</p><p>However, this paticular car doesn't seem practical, with only 40 km between charges (24 miles) and a top speed of 40 kph (24 mph). Drive one of these on a road with a 40 mph speed limit and you're likely to be pulled over for blocking traffic.</p><p>Give it a 45 mph top speed and 75 miles between charges, keep the cost of the vehicle low enough, and you have a winner. But this ain't it.</p><p><i>Seriously? Toyota -- the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace -- can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously? </i></p><p>TFA said nothing like that; the best it will be able to do is park itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want nowWith gas prices hovering around three bucks NOW , cheap transportation is what folks want now .
Plus , this is a concept car ; concept cars are supposed to be what people want now but ca n't have , or what people are likely to want in the future.However , this paticular car does n't seem practical , with only 40 km between charges ( 24 miles ) and a top speed of 40 kph ( 24 mph ) .
Drive one of these on a road with a 40 mph speed limit and you 're likely to be pulled over for blocking traffic.Give it a 45 mph top speed and 75 miles between charges , keep the cost of the vehicle low enough , and you have a winner .
But this ai n't it.Seriously ?
Toyota -- the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace -- ca n't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you 're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously ?
TFA said nothing like that ; the best it will be able to do is park itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want nowWith gas prices hovering around three bucks NOW, cheap transportation is what folks want now.
Plus, this is a concept car; concept cars are supposed to be what people want now but can't have, or what people are likely to want in the future.However, this paticular car doesn't seem practical, with only 40 km between charges (24 miles) and a top speed of 40 kph (24 mph).
Drive one of these on a road with a 40 mph speed limit and you're likely to be pulled over for blocking traffic.Give it a 45 mph top speed and 75 miles between charges, keep the cost of the vehicle low enough, and you have a winner.
But this ain't it.Seriously?
Toyota -- the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace -- can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously?
TFA said nothing like that; the best it will be able to do is park itself.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605964</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>royallthefourth</author>
	<datestamp>1269438180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In my ideal socialist utopia, there would be a collective garden or backyard nearby (a park)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In my ideal socialist utopia , there would be a collective garden or backyard nearby ( a park )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my ideal socialist utopia, there would be a collective garden or backyard nearby (a park)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31626136</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269617940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many trains are driverless?</p><p>If you consider a train to be a self-driving car, you may as well call a taxi a self-driving car.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many trains are driverless ? If you consider a train to be a self-driving car , you may as well call a taxi a self-driving car .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many trains are driverless?If you consider a train to be a self-driving car, you may as well call a taxi a self-driving car.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606718</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1269445140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the ideal socialist utopia, you wouldn't be allowed to raise your own kids.  Parenting is too important to be left to <em>parents</em>.  They'd go to an indoctrination camp with a built-in park.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the ideal socialist utopia , you would n't be allowed to raise your own kids .
Parenting is too important to be left to parents .
They 'd go to an indoctrination camp with a built-in park .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the ideal socialist utopia, you wouldn't be allowed to raise your own kids.
Parenting is too important to be left to parents.
They'd go to an indoctrination camp with a built-in park.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606708</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>lpq</author>
	<datestamp>1269445020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>History != Destiny.</p><p>They may get their act together if they hire the right people.</p><p>By the time it's designed for the road, the old foggies who botched the last one may not be around to botch this one.</p><p>Same with the engineers.</p><p>Nations' power and technical abilities and areas of excellence ARE NOT STAGNANT over long periods of time.</p><p>Belief that they are is wishful or deliberately hopeful thinking at best.</p><p>That which you get the people and the engineering to believe -- so shall they be.</p><p>In 1957, who'd of believed we'd put a man in space, or a man on the moon 11 years later?</p><p>What I wanna know is if I can put my feet out the bottom and run and make em run when they run down on batteries ala Flinstone style..(forget Shatner...wrong temporal direction for this option!)...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>History ! = Destiny.They may get their act together if they hire the right people.By the time it 's designed for the road , the old foggies who botched the last one may not be around to botch this one.Same with the engineers.Nations ' power and technical abilities and areas of excellence ARE NOT STAGNANT over long periods of time.Belief that they are is wishful or deliberately hopeful thinking at best.That which you get the people and the engineering to believe -- so shall they be.In 1957 , who 'd of believed we 'd put a man in space , or a man on the moon 11 years later ? What I wan na know is if I can put my feet out the bottom and run and make em run when they run down on batteries ala Flinstone style.. ( forget Shatner...wrong temporal direction for this option !
) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>History != Destiny.They may get their act together if they hire the right people.By the time it's designed for the road, the old foggies who botched the last one may not be around to botch this one.Same with the engineers.Nations' power and technical abilities and areas of excellence ARE NOT STAGNANT over long periods of time.Belief that they are is wishful or deliberately hopeful thinking at best.That which you get the people and the engineering to believe -- so shall they be.In 1957, who'd of believed we'd put a man in space, or a man on the moon 11 years later?What I wanna know is if I can put my feet out the bottom and run and make em run when they run down on batteries ala Flinstone style..(forget Shatner...wrong temporal direction for this option!
)...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605386</id>
	<title>Replace bicycles and pedestrians, not larger cars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269433980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For me, the kicker is the last paragraph. The likely use is to replace bikes and pedestrians in the Third World, not cars in America.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For me , the kicker is the last paragraph .
The likely use is to replace bikes and pedestrians in the Third World , not cars in America .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For me, the kicker is the last paragraph.
The likely use is to replace bikes and pedestrians in the Third World, not cars in America.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608236</id>
	<title>self driving cars can't exist, and here's why...</title>
	<author>Colin Smith</author>
	<datestamp>1269512040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>economics.</p><p>It isn't technical or insurance or litigation but economics.</p><p>What does your car do when you are not using it? Nothing.  you spent 30 thousand on a new car and iit spends 99\% of it's time doing nothing.</p><p>Well a sefl drive car doesn't have to do nothing. It can speed over town 24 hours per day 365 days per year taking people here and there. It can spread the 30 thousand cost over thousands of people an d thousands of journeys.</p><p>What this means is that any individual who blows 30 grand on a new car will be at a serious economic disadvantage to someone who simply calls a self drive taxi company and spends 1/30 thousandth of the cost on each journey.</p><p>My subject line is a troll, they can exist, but the market is as taxis and the market is far smaller than for individual cars. A taxi can make 50 journeys for a personal car's 2 way commute. Which means the producers have to get 50 time smaller. Good business model. No?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>economics.It is n't technical or insurance or litigation but economics.What does your car do when you are not using it ?
Nothing. you spent 30 thousand on a new car and iit spends 99 \ % of it 's time doing nothing.Well a sefl drive car does n't have to do nothing .
It can speed over town 24 hours per day 365 days per year taking people here and there .
It can spread the 30 thousand cost over thousands of people an d thousands of journeys.What this means is that any individual who blows 30 grand on a new car will be at a serious economic disadvantage to someone who simply calls a self drive taxi company and spends 1/30 thousandth of the cost on each journey.My subject line is a troll , they can exist , but the market is as taxis and the market is far smaller than for individual cars .
A taxi can make 50 journeys for a personal car 's 2 way commute .
Which means the producers have to get 50 time smaller .
Good business model .
No ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>economics.It isn't technical or insurance or litigation but economics.What does your car do when you are not using it?
Nothing.  you spent 30 thousand on a new car and iit spends 99\% of it's time doing nothing.Well a sefl drive car doesn't have to do nothing.
It can speed over town 24 hours per day 365 days per year taking people here and there.
It can spread the 30 thousand cost over thousands of people an d thousands of journeys.What this means is that any individual who blows 30 grand on a new car will be at a serious economic disadvantage to someone who simply calls a self drive taxi company and spends 1/30 thousandth of the cost on each journey.My subject line is a troll, they can exist, but the market is as taxis and the market is far smaller than for individual cars.
A taxi can make 50 journeys for a personal car's 2 way commute.
Which means the producers have to get 50 time smaller.
Good business model.
No?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31610312</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269530700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've never seen a city designed as "just a few buildings surrounded by flatness for the sake of parking", be it in person, or any city in the world that has shown up on TV, in movies, on internet videos, etc.</p><p>Either the buildings top out at only two or three levels and have parking lots, or the buildings are high rises and most parking is in multilevel parking garages. There is basically no in-between stage. And you don't have to go to some legendary major city like New York City to see this in practice; downtown of a nearby city of only about 170k residents is full of buildings of 5-30 floors, large parking garages, and damn near no parking lots unless you go out into the residential areas on the edge (where you're back down to 2-3 story houses).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never seen a city designed as " just a few buildings surrounded by flatness for the sake of parking " , be it in person , or any city in the world that has shown up on TV , in movies , on internet videos , etc.Either the buildings top out at only two or three levels and have parking lots , or the buildings are high rises and most parking is in multilevel parking garages .
There is basically no in-between stage .
And you do n't have to go to some legendary major city like New York City to see this in practice ; downtown of a nearby city of only about 170k residents is full of buildings of 5-30 floors , large parking garages , and damn near no parking lots unless you go out into the residential areas on the edge ( where you 're back down to 2-3 story houses ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never seen a city designed as "just a few buildings surrounded by flatness for the sake of parking", be it in person, or any city in the world that has shown up on TV, in movies, on internet videos, etc.Either the buildings top out at only two or three levels and have parking lots, or the buildings are high rises and most parking is in multilevel parking garages.
There is basically no in-between stage.
And you don't have to go to some legendary major city like New York City to see this in practice; downtown of a nearby city of only about 170k residents is full of buildings of 5-30 floors, large parking garages, and damn near no parking lots unless you go out into the residential areas on the edge (where you're back down to 2-3 story houses).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605480</id>
	<title>Check Scarab also</title>
	<author>noddyxoi</author>
	<datestamp>1269434700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/19/scarab-is-small-scarab-is-fast-scarab-is-hot/" title="yankodesign.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/19/scarab-is-small-scarab-is-fast-scarab-is-hot/</a> [yankodesign.com]

In his MsC thesis that can be requested from the author, he also solves some other traffic problems like flocking in order to reduce commuting time, etc. Basically rationally solving the traffic problem.</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/19/scarab-is-small-scarab-is-fast-scarab-is-hot/ [ yankodesign.com ] In his MsC thesis that can be requested from the author , he also solves some other traffic problems like flocking in order to reduce commuting time , etc .
Basically rationally solving the traffic problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/11/19/scarab-is-small-scarab-is-fast-scarab-is-hot/ [yankodesign.com]

In his MsC thesis that can be requested from the author, he also solves some other traffic problems like flocking in order to reduce commuting time, etc.
Basically rationally solving the traffic problem.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605420</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Cyberax</author>
	<datestamp>1269434280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yet self-driving cars are the future. I believe that it's possible to make a much safer automatic car, eventually surpassing safety of even very good human drivers.</p><p>And the best thing - I'll be able to read books while driving!</p><p>We've discussed this in the past: <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/24/220225" title="slashdot.org">http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/24/220225</a> [slashdot.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet self-driving cars are the future .
I believe that it 's possible to make a much safer automatic car , eventually surpassing safety of even very good human drivers.And the best thing - I 'll be able to read books while driving ! We 've discussed this in the past : http : //news.slashdot.org/article.pl ? sid = 08/07/24/220225 [ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yet self-driving cars are the future.
I believe that it's possible to make a much safer automatic car, eventually surpassing safety of even very good human drivers.And the best thing - I'll be able to read books while driving!We've discussed this in the past: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/24/220225 [slashdot.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605494</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269434760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Get off my lawn!"</p><p>I can say this because I and millions of americans live in the suburbs.  We enjoy our backyards, our gardens our patios.  Living in a highrise with a "balcony" is not the same when it comes to telling your kids "go outside and play" which btw should not involve taking an elevator down 20 floors and crossing a major street to get to a park.  You can't exactly open up the window on your 20th floor highrise and yell out to the kids to "come in for dinner", nor can you keep an eye on them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Get off my lawn !
" I can say this because I and millions of americans live in the suburbs .
We enjoy our backyards , our gardens our patios .
Living in a highrise with a " balcony " is not the same when it comes to telling your kids " go outside and play " which btw should not involve taking an elevator down 20 floors and crossing a major street to get to a park .
You ca n't exactly open up the window on your 20th floor highrise and yell out to the kids to " come in for dinner " , nor can you keep an eye on them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Get off my lawn!
"I can say this because I and millions of americans live in the suburbs.
We enjoy our backyards, our gardens our patios.
Living in a highrise with a "balcony" is not the same when it comes to telling your kids "go outside and play" which btw should not involve taking an elevator down 20 floors and crossing a major street to get to a park.
You can't exactly open up the window on your 20th floor highrise and yell out to the kids to "come in for dinner", nor can you keep an eye on them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606054</id>
	<title>The first question I ask myself...</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1269438840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...when I look at something like this is why does it has to look so ugly and off balance?</p><p>The second is how do I fight my way to work and back in wind and rain and snow? On streets with bone-breaking potholes only a Jeep Cherokee could love.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...when I look at something like this is why does it has to look so ugly and off balance ? The second is how do I fight my way to work and back in wind and rain and snow ?
On streets with bone-breaking potholes only a Jeep Cherokee could love .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when I look at something like this is why does it has to look so ugly and off balance?The second is how do I fight my way to work and back in wind and rain and snow?
On streets with bone-breaking potholes only a Jeep Cherokee could love.
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607186</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Eli Gottlieb</author>
	<datestamp>1269450300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're missing the application of this technology: car-trains and public transportation.</p><p>Think: you no longer need to wait for a bus when you want to go somewhere.  You take out your cell-phone and tell the car-train network the number of people you need to be able to carry, and the network sends a self-driving car to the nearest parking space to your location.  You get in and specify where you want it to go.  The AI drives you there, using swarm-intelligence techniques for safety. You relax in comfort, and by some method have paid for this service.  If you need to go somewhere special, you can bring the car to a location automatically and then drive manually from there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're missing the application of this technology : car-trains and public transportation.Think : you no longer need to wait for a bus when you want to go somewhere .
You take out your cell-phone and tell the car-train network the number of people you need to be able to carry , and the network sends a self-driving car to the nearest parking space to your location .
You get in and specify where you want it to go .
The AI drives you there , using swarm-intelligence techniques for safety .
You relax in comfort , and by some method have paid for this service .
If you need to go somewhere special , you can bring the car to a location automatically and then drive manually from there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're missing the application of this technology: car-trains and public transportation.Think: you no longer need to wait for a bus when you want to go somewhere.
You take out your cell-phone and tell the car-train network the number of people you need to be able to carry, and the network sends a self-driving car to the nearest parking space to your location.
You get in and specify where you want it to go.
The AI drives you there, using swarm-intelligence techniques for safety.
You relax in comfort, and by some method have paid for this service.
If you need to go somewhere special, you can bring the car to a location automatically and then drive manually from there.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607760</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>GreatBunzinni</author>
	<datestamp>1269460740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mind you, airplane autopilots only need to pay attention to other airplanes, which not only carry a transponder but also are monitored 24/7 by ground control crews, which make a damned good job at placing the airplane somewhere where it can't screw things up.  Moreover, on top of all those security systems in place an airplane also carries two or three blokes who dedicate themselves monitoring all those security systems in real time.</p><p>Back in the surface, kids don't carry transponder units, nor do other cars, and you wish to rely on the car alone to navigate and evade any objects which may be thrown your way.  And if all hell breaks loose the bloke who you are relying to save the day is yourself.</p><p>Knowing that, throwing computers at something won't make the problem go away. So as you can see things don't tend to be all that easy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mind you , airplane autopilots only need to pay attention to other airplanes , which not only carry a transponder but also are monitored 24/7 by ground control crews , which make a damned good job at placing the airplane somewhere where it ca n't screw things up .
Moreover , on top of all those security systems in place an airplane also carries two or three blokes who dedicate themselves monitoring all those security systems in real time.Back in the surface , kids do n't carry transponder units , nor do other cars , and you wish to rely on the car alone to navigate and evade any objects which may be thrown your way .
And if all hell breaks loose the bloke who you are relying to save the day is yourself.Knowing that , throwing computers at something wo n't make the problem go away .
So as you can see things do n't tend to be all that easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mind you, airplane autopilots only need to pay attention to other airplanes, which not only carry a transponder but also are monitored 24/7 by ground control crews, which make a damned good job at placing the airplane somewhere where it can't screw things up.
Moreover, on top of all those security systems in place an airplane also carries two or three blokes who dedicate themselves monitoring all those security systems in real time.Back in the surface, kids don't carry transponder units, nor do other cars, and you wish to rely on the car alone to navigate and evade any objects which may be thrown your way.
And if all hell breaks loose the bloke who you are relying to save the day is yourself.Knowing that, throwing computers at something won't make the problem go away.
So as you can see things don't tend to be all that easy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607392</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>hutkey</author>
	<datestamp>1269454440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You could eat breakfast, talk on your cell phone (or text), do your makeup etc. in comfort.</p></div><p>Aren't people doing this already while driving (including the comfort part)?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could eat breakfast , talk on your cell phone ( or text ) , do your makeup etc .
in comfort.Are n't people doing this already while driving ( including the comfort part ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could eat breakfast, talk on your cell phone (or text), do your makeup etc.
in comfort.Aren't people doing this already while driving (including the comfort part)?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605194</id>
	<title>GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269432660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"...and can be operated autonomously or under manual control. In autonomous mode the EN-V is designed to use high-speed wireless connectivity and GPS navigation to automatically select the fastest route, based on real-time traffic conditions gleaned from the Web or some other networked source of traffic information."</i> <br> <br>

Seriously?  Toyota &mdash; the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace &mdash; can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously?  Good luck with that.  You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want <b>now</b>, not what Shatner fanboys are hoping will exist in 20 years.  There are so many technical problems here I don't even know where to start.  GPS can't detect when little kids run into the road chasing a soccer ball.  Trust me, just work on making the Volt not suck, and <i>maybe</i> try to do something like the Aptera, and you'll be just fine.<br> <br>

On a serious note, I don't get why companies introduce "concept" cars with shit they know can never exist in the near future, and with shit no one wants either.  If the idea of a concept car is to "WOW" me with all the stuff you're working on making in the next 10 years, how about you start bragging about high density energy storage and biodiesel powerplants that run on algae-derived fuel.  This is the stuff people want that isn't practical yet, but might be someday soon[ish].  No one gives a shit about Segway gyro (remember how well the Segway sold?*) and autonomous driving is best left for SciFi films.<br> <br>

*Dean Kamen is a complete badass, though, and despite his misunderstanding of the market, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEKA" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">DEKA's other work</a> [wikipedia.org] is amazing.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...and can be operated autonomously or under manual control .
In autonomous mode the EN-V is designed to use high-speed wireless connectivity and GPS navigation to automatically select the fastest route , based on real-time traffic conditions gleaned from the Web or some other networked source of traffic information .
" Seriously ?
Toyota    the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace    ca n't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you 're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously ?
Good luck with that .
You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now , not what Shatner fanboys are hoping will exist in 20 years .
There are so many technical problems here I do n't even know where to start .
GPS ca n't detect when little kids run into the road chasing a soccer ball .
Trust me , just work on making the Volt not suck , and maybe try to do something like the Aptera , and you 'll be just fine .
On a serious note , I do n't get why companies introduce " concept " cars with shit they know can never exist in the near future , and with shit no one wants either .
If the idea of a concept car is to " WOW " me with all the stuff you 're working on making in the next 10 years , how about you start bragging about high density energy storage and biodiesel powerplants that run on algae-derived fuel .
This is the stuff people want that is n't practical yet , but might be someday soon [ ish ] .
No one gives a shit about Segway gyro ( remember how well the Segway sold ?
* ) and autonomous driving is best left for SciFi films .
* Dean Kamen is a complete badass , though , and despite his misunderstanding of the market , DEKA 's other work [ wikipedia.org ] is amazing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...and can be operated autonomously or under manual control.
In autonomous mode the EN-V is designed to use high-speed wireless connectivity and GPS navigation to automatically select the fastest route, based on real-time traffic conditions gleaned from the Web or some other networked source of traffic information.
"  

Seriously?
Toyota — the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace — can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously?
Good luck with that.
You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now, not what Shatner fanboys are hoping will exist in 20 years.
There are so many technical problems here I don't even know where to start.
GPS can't detect when little kids run into the road chasing a soccer ball.
Trust me, just work on making the Volt not suck, and maybe try to do something like the Aptera, and you'll be just fine.
On a serious note, I don't get why companies introduce "concept" cars with shit they know can never exist in the near future, and with shit no one wants either.
If the idea of a concept car is to "WOW" me with all the stuff you're working on making in the next 10 years, how about you start bragging about high density energy storage and biodiesel powerplants that run on algae-derived fuel.
This is the stuff people want that isn't practical yet, but might be someday soon[ish].
No one gives a shit about Segway gyro (remember how well the Segway sold?
*) and autonomous driving is best left for SciFi films.
*Dean Kamen is a complete badass, though, and despite his misunderstanding of the market, DEKA's other work [wikipedia.org] is amazing.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31615524</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269547500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>IAAPilot</p><p>Believe me, building an airplane that can fly itself from takeoff through landing is FAR FAR easier than building a car that can drive you to work every morning.  In the sky, there is no curb, there are no roads, there are no kids chasing their wayward basketball into the street.  There's just other airplanes, which are separated by hundreds or thousands of feet.  It's the best-case scenario for GPS navigation because all you need is the GPS unit and radar to detect other traffic.  You don't need any kind of fancy pattern recognition to decide which lane you should be in, or which side of those construction cones to drive on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>IAAPilotBelieve me , building an airplane that can fly itself from takeoff through landing is FAR FAR easier than building a car that can drive you to work every morning .
In the sky , there is no curb , there are no roads , there are no kids chasing their wayward basketball into the street .
There 's just other airplanes , which are separated by hundreds or thousands of feet .
It 's the best-case scenario for GPS navigation because all you need is the GPS unit and radar to detect other traffic .
You do n't need any kind of fancy pattern recognition to decide which lane you should be in , or which side of those construction cones to drive on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IAAPilotBelieve me, building an airplane that can fly itself from takeoff through landing is FAR FAR easier than building a car that can drive you to work every morning.
In the sky, there is no curb, there are no roads, there are no kids chasing their wayward basketball into the street.
There's just other airplanes, which are separated by hundreds or thousands of feet.
It's the best-case scenario for GPS navigation because all you need is the GPS unit and radar to detect other traffic.
You don't need any kind of fancy pattern recognition to decide which lane you should be in, or which side of those construction cones to drive on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607238</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269451140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Yet self-driving cars are the future</p></div></blockquote><p>It'll never fly in America, where cars, like corporations, are deemed to have the same rights as individuals.</p><p>A country that's in love with handguns isn't going to give up their god-given Right from when Jesus and Ronald Reagan signed The Constitution to barrel down the federally-funded highways and burn up federally-subsidized oil supplies and listen to anti-government talk radio on the public airwaves.  When the most vocal 20 percent of the population literally shat on the floor in fury over regulation of insurance companies, you think they're going to put control of their vehicles into the hands of the communo-fascist Belgian government in Washington?</p><p>Sometimes I wonder why the rest of the world hasn't just wiped us off the map as a sensible preventive measure.  Maybe the importation of bad British reality TV shows like American Idol is their way of keeping us occupied until they can figure out how to vote us off the island.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet self-driving cars are the futureIt 'll never fly in America , where cars , like corporations , are deemed to have the same rights as individuals.A country that 's in love with handguns is n't going to give up their god-given Right from when Jesus and Ronald Reagan signed The Constitution to barrel down the federally-funded highways and burn up federally-subsidized oil supplies and listen to anti-government talk radio on the public airwaves .
When the most vocal 20 percent of the population literally shat on the floor in fury over regulation of insurance companies , you think they 're going to put control of their vehicles into the hands of the communo-fascist Belgian government in Washington ? Sometimes I wonder why the rest of the world has n't just wiped us off the map as a sensible preventive measure .
Maybe the importation of bad British reality TV shows like American Idol is their way of keeping us occupied until they can figure out how to vote us off the island .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yet self-driving cars are the futureIt'll never fly in America, where cars, like corporations, are deemed to have the same rights as individuals.A country that's in love with handguns isn't going to give up their god-given Right from when Jesus and Ronald Reagan signed The Constitution to barrel down the federally-funded highways and burn up federally-subsidized oil supplies and listen to anti-government talk radio on the public airwaves.
When the most vocal 20 percent of the population literally shat on the floor in fury over regulation of insurance companies, you think they're going to put control of their vehicles into the hands of the communo-fascist Belgian government in Washington?Sometimes I wonder why the rest of the world hasn't just wiped us off the map as a sensible preventive measure.
Maybe the importation of bad British reality TV shows like American Idol is their way of keeping us occupied until they can figure out how to vote us off the island.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606024</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>riffenator</author>
	<datestamp>1269438600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Self driving cars are here!</p><p>They're called trains.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Self driving cars are here ! They 're called trains .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Self driving cars are here!They're called trains.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31609072</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>VTEX</author>
	<datestamp>1269523980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>GM is an international company, and thus, has to appeal to other demographics than the United States.
<br> <br>
FTA - GM clearly acknowledges that this prototype will be a tough sell in the U.S. but they believe it will appeal in places such as Mumbai and Shanghai, where people are more used to walking and biking around.</htmltext>
<tokenext>GM is an international company , and thus , has to appeal to other demographics than the United States .
FTA - GM clearly acknowledges that this prototype will be a tough sell in the U.S. but they believe it will appeal in places such as Mumbai and Shanghai , where people are more used to walking and biking around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GM is an international company, and thus, has to appeal to other demographics than the United States.
FTA - GM clearly acknowledges that this prototype will be a tough sell in the U.S. but they believe it will appeal in places such as Mumbai and Shanghai, where people are more used to walking and biking around.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608694</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1269519780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you designed your cities properly the typical "high rise" residential buildings would be perhaps 5 stories, surrounded by a small communal grassed area, with a children's play area (with swings etc) or larger park for every few buildings. There would be foot paths connecting them together on one side, and vehicle/foot access on the other side, and that would have a very low speed limit (20-30km/h).</p><p>Your kids would probably prefer to play in the communal area <i>with other children</i> rather than alone in a private garden surrounded by tall fences.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you designed your cities properly the typical " high rise " residential buildings would be perhaps 5 stories , surrounded by a small communal grassed area , with a children 's play area ( with swings etc ) or larger park for every few buildings .
There would be foot paths connecting them together on one side , and vehicle/foot access on the other side , and that would have a very low speed limit ( 20-30km/h ) .Your kids would probably prefer to play in the communal area with other children rather than alone in a private garden surrounded by tall fences .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you designed your cities properly the typical "high rise" residential buildings would be perhaps 5 stories, surrounded by a small communal grassed area, with a children's play area (with swings etc) or larger park for every few buildings.
There would be foot paths connecting them together on one side, and vehicle/foot access on the other side, and that would have a very low speed limit (20-30km/h).Your kids would probably prefer to play in the communal area with other children rather than alone in a private garden surrounded by tall fences.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606688</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>c6gunner</author>
	<datestamp>1269444720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Seriously? Toyota &mdash; the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace &mdash; can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously? Good luck with that.</p></div><p>Please.  How many cases of "unintended acceleration" have there been?  30?  50?  Hell, let's be generous and say 500.  Out of 4 million vehicles.  In comparison, the US has roughly 6 MILLION accidents per year, more than 80\% of which are a result of human error.  More than a million people are killed world-wide in traffic accidents every year, and another FIFTY million are injured.  And you're worried about an electronic failure rate of 0.01\%?  Talk about ass-backward priorities!</p><p>The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
Toyota    the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace    ca n't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you 're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously ?
Good luck with that.Please .
How many cases of " unintended acceleration " have there been ?
30 ? 50 ?
Hell , let 's be generous and say 500 .
Out of 4 million vehicles .
In comparison , the US has roughly 6 MILLION accidents per year , more than 80 \ % of which are a result of human error .
More than a million people are killed world-wide in traffic accidents every year , and another FIFTY million are injured .
And you 're worried about an electronic failure rate of 0.01 \ % ?
Talk about ass-backward priorities ! The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers , the better off we 'll be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
Toyota — the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace — can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly and you're trying to float an EV that navigates autonomously?
Good luck with that.Please.
How many cases of "unintended acceleration" have there been?
30?  50?
Hell, let's be generous and say 500.
Out of 4 million vehicles.
In comparison, the US has roughly 6 MILLION accidents per year, more than 80\% of which are a result of human error.
More than a million people are killed world-wide in traffic accidents every year, and another FIFTY million are injured.
And you're worried about an electronic failure rate of 0.01\%?
Talk about ass-backward priorities!The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31611772</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>ChuckSnorris</author>
	<datestamp>1269535920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.</p></div><p>I too welcome our car computer overlords.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers , the better off we 'll be.I too welcome our car computer overlords .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.I too welcome our car computer overlords.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608010</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269508860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No offense to you personally..  But i really don't want to live that close to a bunch of people.</p><p>A good chunk of you are fucking stupid.  Dangerously stupid.  Monumentally stupid.  Not to mention rude, ignorant, disgusting and perverted.</p><p>And i like to have a nice big space buffer around my life and yours as much as i can.<br>If that means i gotta drive everywhere.  I'm ok with that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No offense to you personally.. But i really do n't want to live that close to a bunch of people.A good chunk of you are fucking stupid .
Dangerously stupid .
Monumentally stupid .
Not to mention rude , ignorant , disgusting and perverted.And i like to have a nice big space buffer around my life and yours as much as i can.If that means i got ta drive everywhere .
I 'm ok with that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No offense to you personally..  But i really don't want to live that close to a bunch of people.A good chunk of you are fucking stupid.
Dangerously stupid.
Monumentally stupid.
Not to mention rude, ignorant, disgusting and perverted.And i like to have a nice big space buffer around my life and yours as much as i can.If that means i gotta drive everywhere.
I'm ok with that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606276</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1269440640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh come on, Everyone knows GPS can't detect obstacles and this gets modded as insightful?  Yet rear obstacle avoidance systems is available on many models today, as is adaptive cruise control, and *shockingly* <a href="http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/09/testing-volvos-collision-avoidance-system/" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">collision avoidance systems</a> [nytimes.com].</p><p>Not only does this technology exist today, but it is standard on some models.</p><p>Go back to putting a six foot wing on your Civic.  You have no idea what you're talking about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh come on , Everyone knows GPS ca n't detect obstacles and this gets modded as insightful ?
Yet rear obstacle avoidance systems is available on many models today , as is adaptive cruise control , and * shockingly * collision avoidance systems [ nytimes.com ] .Not only does this technology exist today , but it is standard on some models.Go back to putting a six foot wing on your Civic .
You have no idea what you 're talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh come on, Everyone knows GPS can't detect obstacles and this gets modded as insightful?
Yet rear obstacle avoidance systems is available on many models today, as is adaptive cruise control, and *shockingly* collision avoidance systems [nytimes.com].Not only does this technology exist today, but it is standard on some models.Go back to putting a six foot wing on your Civic.
You have no idea what you're talking about.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>blai</author>
	<datestamp>1269445500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yet self-driving cars are the future</p></div><p>aren't these called buses?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yet self-driving cars are the futureare n't these called buses ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yet self-driving cars are the futurearen't these called buses?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605236</id>
	<title>Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269432960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The big problem with automobiles is the problem of space. Modern American cities look like a bomb went off in their downtowns; just a few buildings surrounded by flatness for the sake of parking.</p><p>As long as we rely on automobiles for everything, we'll still be consuming too much energy, paying too much to pave too many roads, spending too much money to buy and maintain automobiles, dying in traffic, and wasting time in traffic jams.</p><p>Everything besides decreasing auto dependence is just a bandaid. Of course, I wouldn't expect GM to participate in this since <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2486235784907931000" title="google.com">they're the ones who killed our public transit system in the first place.</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The big problem with automobiles is the problem of space .
Modern American cities look like a bomb went off in their downtowns ; just a few buildings surrounded by flatness for the sake of parking.As long as we rely on automobiles for everything , we 'll still be consuming too much energy , paying too much to pave too many roads , spending too much money to buy and maintain automobiles , dying in traffic , and wasting time in traffic jams.Everything besides decreasing auto dependence is just a bandaid .
Of course , I would n't expect GM to participate in this since they 're the ones who killed our public transit system in the first place .
[ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The big problem with automobiles is the problem of space.
Modern American cities look like a bomb went off in their downtowns; just a few buildings surrounded by flatness for the sake of parking.As long as we rely on automobiles for everything, we'll still be consuming too much energy, paying too much to pave too many roads, spending too much money to buy and maintain automobiles, dying in traffic, and wasting time in traffic jams.Everything besides decreasing auto dependence is just a bandaid.
Of course, I wouldn't expect GM to participate in this since they're the ones who killed our public transit system in the first place.
[google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605334</id>
	<title>Networked cars!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269433620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing can go wrong with that! Not a thing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing can go wrong with that !
Not a thing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing can go wrong with that!
Not a thing!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606256</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269440460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, to be fair. If there were instruments measuring the car's direction accurately and localizers giving more accurate position information than GPS (and its predecessors) in areas where extra precision is needed and "Car Traffic Control" would ensure that other traffic doesn't interfere, it would be significantly easier to have autopilots for cars. Not that autopilots aren't impressive considering that they outperform pilots today.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , to be fair .
If there were instruments measuring the car 's direction accurately and localizers giving more accurate position information than GPS ( and its predecessors ) in areas where extra precision is needed and " Car Traffic Control " would ensure that other traffic does n't interfere , it would be significantly easier to have autopilots for cars .
Not that autopilots are n't impressive considering that they outperform pilots today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, to be fair.
If there were instruments measuring the car's direction accurately and localizers giving more accurate position information than GPS (and its predecessors) in areas where extra precision is needed and "Car Traffic Control" would ensure that other traffic doesn't interfere, it would be significantly easier to have autopilots for cars.
Not that autopilots aren't impressive considering that they outperform pilots today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31614594</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>sabt-pestnu</author>
	<datestamp>1269544560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How many cases of "unintended acceleration" have there been? 30? 50? Hell, let's be generous and say 500....The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.</p></div><p>So, let me get this straight...</p><p>You're advocating replacing our current system:  a comparatively simple decision making apparatus using simple sensor inputs (current engine/braking/transmission computer control), that we've currently got paired with a highly complex decision making apparatus used for image processing, steering control, and executive decisions (human wetware).</p><p>With: a logic engine that does all of the above.</p><p>Perhaps the complexity of the system you are advocating has escaped you.  Complexity of the system increases both with the number of inputs and the number of correlations you draw from those inputs.  Provability costs of a system increase even faster than the complexity of the system.</p><p>There is evidence that the current systems are unproven: unintended acceleration is a good example, I'm sure there are others.  This does not bode well for those more complex systems you are advocating.</p><p>So yes, I'm worried about a failure rate of 0.01\% in the software currently in use.  I'd be worried about it even with several MORE zeroes between the decimal point and the 1.  Because "just controlling your engine, transmission and brakes" is a simple problem, compared to driving in a generalized environment.  I'd still be concerned in a "follow the guidewire, all computer controlled" environment.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How many cases of " unintended acceleration " have there been ?
30 ? 50 ?
Hell , let 's be generous and say 500....The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers , the better off we 'll be.So , let me get this straight...You 're advocating replacing our current system : a comparatively simple decision making apparatus using simple sensor inputs ( current engine/braking/transmission computer control ) , that we 've currently got paired with a highly complex decision making apparatus used for image processing , steering control , and executive decisions ( human wetware ) .With : a logic engine that does all of the above.Perhaps the complexity of the system you are advocating has escaped you .
Complexity of the system increases both with the number of inputs and the number of correlations you draw from those inputs .
Provability costs of a system increase even faster than the complexity of the system.There is evidence that the current systems are unproven : unintended acceleration is a good example , I 'm sure there are others .
This does not bode well for those more complex systems you are advocating.So yes , I 'm worried about a failure rate of 0.01 \ % in the software currently in use .
I 'd be worried about it even with several MORE zeroes between the decimal point and the 1 .
Because " just controlling your engine , transmission and brakes " is a simple problem , compared to driving in a generalized environment .
I 'd still be concerned in a " follow the guidewire , all computer controlled " environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many cases of "unintended acceleration" have there been?
30? 50?
Hell, let's be generous and say 500....The sooner we can replace human drivers with computers, the better off we'll be.So, let me get this straight...You're advocating replacing our current system:  a comparatively simple decision making apparatus using simple sensor inputs (current engine/braking/transmission computer control), that we've currently got paired with a highly complex decision making apparatus used for image processing, steering control, and executive decisions (human wetware).With: a logic engine that does all of the above.Perhaps the complexity of the system you are advocating has escaped you.
Complexity of the system increases both with the number of inputs and the number of correlations you draw from those inputs.
Provability costs of a system increase even faster than the complexity of the system.There is evidence that the current systems are unproven: unintended acceleration is a good example, I'm sure there are others.
This does not bode well for those more complex systems you are advocating.So yes, I'm worried about a failure rate of 0.01\% in the software currently in use.
I'd be worried about it even with several MORE zeroes between the decimal point and the 1.
Because "just controlling your engine, transmission and brakes" is a simple problem, compared to driving in a generalized environment.
I'd still be concerned in a "follow the guidewire, all computer controlled" environment.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605192</id>
	<title>They also include a small balloon...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269432660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b> <em><nobr> <wbr></nobr><strong>...which you can rub on the top of the car to get it going again if it loses its charge.</strong> </em> </b></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...which you can rub on the top of the car to get it going again if it loses its charge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  ...which you can rub on the top of the car to get it going again if it loses its charge.  </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31612536</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1269538200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This would have the added advantage of rejuvenating the buggy whip industry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This would have the added advantage of rejuvenating the buggy whip industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This would have the added advantage of rejuvenating the buggy whip industry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605324</id>
	<title>Obama lied, America died!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269433560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know it's true.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know it 's true .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know it's true.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31610688</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269532440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoa-there, big guy. Learn to drive first, then learn to spell associated tech jargon like (assuming you're in a native-english-language country), then we'll talk about changing systems you are just learning about.</p><p>fyi: "braking" = to decelerate using a specific mechanical procedure, and "breaking" = is to make non-functional or fragment into more parts than the original</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoa-there , big guy .
Learn to drive first , then learn to spell associated tech jargon like ( assuming you 're in a native-english-language country ) , then we 'll talk about changing systems you are just learning about.fyi : " braking " = to decelerate using a specific mechanical procedure , and " breaking " = is to make non-functional or fragment into more parts than the original</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoa-there, big guy.
Learn to drive first, then learn to spell associated tech jargon like (assuming you're in a native-english-language country), then we'll talk about changing systems you are just learning about.fyi: "braking" = to decelerate using a specific mechanical procedure, and "breaking" = is to make non-functional or fragment into more parts than the original</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605708</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Rakishi</author>
	<datestamp>1269436320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Motorcycles are also less comfortable, have less storage capacity, provide no protection from the elements and are basically death traps. Death traps if you're an experience utterly paranoid driver whose constant assumption is that every other driver has been personally hired to kill you. More like genocide for the average driver.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Motorcycles are also less comfortable , have less storage capacity , provide no protection from the elements and are basically death traps .
Death traps if you 're an experience utterly paranoid driver whose constant assumption is that every other driver has been personally hired to kill you .
More like genocide for the average driver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Motorcycles are also less comfortable, have less storage capacity, provide no protection from the elements and are basically death traps.
Death traps if you're an experience utterly paranoid driver whose constant assumption is that every other driver has been personally hired to kill you.
More like genocide for the average driver.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605580</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269435300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, it's just as ridiculous as building an airplane that can fl itself, as if it had some sort of autopilot.<br>And maybe they'll put computers in them *some day* that can do most of the work on landing and take off. After all, the computer would have to be the size of a skyscraper.</p><p>Seriously, in an HOV lane this would be easy and a reason to buy one. You could eat breakfast, talk on your cell phone (or text), do your makeup etc. in comfort.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's just as ridiculous as building an airplane that can fl itself , as if it had some sort of autopilot.And maybe they 'll put computers in them * some day * that can do most of the work on landing and take off .
After all , the computer would have to be the size of a skyscraper.Seriously , in an HOV lane this would be easy and a reason to buy one .
You could eat breakfast , talk on your cell phone ( or text ) , do your makeup etc .
in comfort .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's just as ridiculous as building an airplane that can fl itself, as if it had some sort of autopilot.And maybe they'll put computers in them *some day* that can do most of the work on landing and take off.
After all, the computer would have to be the size of a skyscraper.Seriously, in an HOV lane this would be easy and a reason to buy one.
You could eat breakfast, talk on your cell phone (or text), do your makeup etc.
in comfort.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31609932</id>
	<title>how long before...</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1269528780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so how long before the oil companies shut this down?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so how long before the oil companies shut this down ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so how long before the oil companies shut this down?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608532</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1269517320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"Seriously, in an HOV lane this would be easy and a reason to buy one. You could eat breakfast, talk on your cell phone (or text), do your makeup etc. in comfort."</i></p><p>And if the car in front of you suddenly veers out of control, or any other unexpected condition arises, well, at least you guys have healthcare now. Right?</p><p>I've been on the motorway when the unexpected happens. I do not want to trust a computer to first recognise, and then react to, the unexpected. Not on a motorway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Seriously , in an HOV lane this would be easy and a reason to buy one .
You could eat breakfast , talk on your cell phone ( or text ) , do your makeup etc .
in comfort .
" And if the car in front of you suddenly veers out of control , or any other unexpected condition arises , well , at least you guys have healthcare now .
Right ? I 've been on the motorway when the unexpected happens .
I do not want to trust a computer to first recognise , and then react to , the unexpected .
Not on a motorway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Seriously, in an HOV lane this would be easy and a reason to buy one.
You could eat breakfast, talk on your cell phone (or text), do your makeup etc.
in comfort.
"And if the car in front of you suddenly veers out of control, or any other unexpected condition arises, well, at least you guys have healthcare now.
Right?I've been on the motorway when the unexpected happens.
I do not want to trust a computer to first recognise, and then react to, the unexpected.
Not on a motorway.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608158</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Jedi Alec</author>
	<datestamp>1269510600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Maybe the importation of bad British reality TV shows like American Idol is their way of keeping us occupied until they can figure out how to vote us off the island.</i></p><p>Ehmm, we're trying to figure out how we can get you to *stay* on the island<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) Sorry Canadians, guess you're stuck with them. Let us know if you want to buy a concrete wall to stop all the illegals trying to cross your southern border, I hear the germans are quite proficient at concrete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe the importation of bad British reality TV shows like American Idol is their way of keeping us occupied until they can figure out how to vote us off the island.Ehmm , we 're trying to figure out how we can get you to * stay * on the island ; - ) Sorry Canadians , guess you 're stuck with them .
Let us know if you want to buy a concrete wall to stop all the illegals trying to cross your southern border , I hear the germans are quite proficient at concrete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe the importation of bad British reality TV shows like American Idol is their way of keeping us occupied until they can figure out how to vote us off the island.Ehmm, we're trying to figure out how we can get you to *stay* on the island ;-) Sorry Canadians, guess you're stuck with them.
Let us know if you want to buy a concrete wall to stop all the illegals trying to cross your southern border, I hear the germans are quite proficient at concrete.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607328</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>TapeCutter</author>
	<datestamp>1269452940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Toyota &mdash; the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace &mdash; can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly"</i>
<br> <br>
Toyota &mdash; the company that's replacing the floor pans on millions of cars because a small number of drivers in a certain country are too stupid to realise thier floor mat is on top of their gas pedal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Toyota    the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace    ca n't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly " Toyota    the company that 's replacing the floor pans on millions of cars because a small number of drivers in a certain country are too stupid to realise thier floor mat is on top of their gas pedal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Toyota — the guys who ate your lunch in the marketplace — can't even make a software-gas-pedal work correctly"
 
Toyota — the company that's replacing the floor pans on millions of cars because a small number of drivers in a certain country are too stupid to realise thier floor mat is on top of their gas pedal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607708</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Black Gold Alchemist</author>
	<datestamp>1269459780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm sorry but there's no such thing as consuming too much energy. Only producing too much pollution.That's like saying you read too many books. The automobile is the future of transportation, because it is the most efficient large-scale system we have. Even in Europe, \%85 of all journeys are made by car. Except in places like New York, the amount of public transport lines needed is just too big. Also, many of the trains and buses will run empty, so they <a href="http://www.templetons.com/brad/robocars/transit-ends.html" title="templetons.com" rel="nofollow">less efficient than cars</a> [templetons.com]. The most efficient form of transport right now is an e-bike or scooter (biking and walking consumes energy to make food).<br> <br>

Anyway, I like the huge space between buildings, the huge parking lots, etc. The only reason for traffic jams is because there are not enough roads. As cars get bigger, have more safety features, and more advanced technology, they will be safer. The car of the future will run on either solar or nuclear energy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry but there 's no such thing as consuming too much energy .
Only producing too much pollution.That 's like saying you read too many books .
The automobile is the future of transportation , because it is the most efficient large-scale system we have .
Even in Europe , \ % 85 of all journeys are made by car .
Except in places like New York , the amount of public transport lines needed is just too big .
Also , many of the trains and buses will run empty , so they less efficient than cars [ templetons.com ] .
The most efficient form of transport right now is an e-bike or scooter ( biking and walking consumes energy to make food ) .
Anyway , I like the huge space between buildings , the huge parking lots , etc .
The only reason for traffic jams is because there are not enough roads .
As cars get bigger , have more safety features , and more advanced technology , they will be safer .
The car of the future will run on either solar or nuclear energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry but there's no such thing as consuming too much energy.
Only producing too much pollution.That's like saying you read too many books.
The automobile is the future of transportation, because it is the most efficient large-scale system we have.
Even in Europe, \%85 of all journeys are made by car.
Except in places like New York, the amount of public transport lines needed is just too big.
Also, many of the trains and buses will run empty, so they less efficient than cars [templetons.com].
The most efficient form of transport right now is an e-bike or scooter (biking and walking consumes energy to make food).
Anyway, I like the huge space between buildings, the huge parking lots, etc.
The only reason for traffic jams is because there are not enough roads.
As cars get bigger, have more safety features, and more advanced technology, they will be safer.
The car of the future will run on either solar or nuclear energy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606746</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>c6gunner</author>
	<datestamp>1269445380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there was any money to be made in building mass rail transit, you can bet your ass that GM would be all over it.  Unfortunately, conspiratards often fail to realize that their own pet "ideas" are either just as ineffective as the accepted solutions, or even more so.  Public transit isn't unpopular because of any conspiracy - it's unpopular because it sucks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there was any money to be made in building mass rail transit , you can bet your ass that GM would be all over it .
Unfortunately , conspiratards often fail to realize that their own pet " ideas " are either just as ineffective as the accepted solutions , or even more so .
Public transit is n't unpopular because of any conspiracy - it 's unpopular because it sucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there was any money to be made in building mass rail transit, you can bet your ass that GM would be all over it.
Unfortunately, conspiratards often fail to realize that their own pet "ideas" are either just as ineffective as the accepted solutions, or even more so.
Public transit isn't unpopular because of any conspiracy - it's unpopular because it sucks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605356</id>
	<title>It's the Tron-mobile!</title>
	<author>Anonymous Freak</author>
	<datestamp>1269433800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>C'mon...  I'm not the only one that thought it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>C'mon... I 'm not the only one that thought it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>C'mon...  I'm not the only one that thought it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608170</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Rakishi</author>
	<datestamp>1269510840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If price of land &gt; price of multistory parking than guess what gets built?</p><p>In many American cities that's the case, parking structures and multistory buildings in general are expensive so it's not hard to get such a ratio. In other places zoning is bastard, let residential building go anywhere and you'd probably have no parking lots in 5 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If price of land &gt; price of multistory parking than guess what gets built ? In many American cities that 's the case , parking structures and multistory buildings in general are expensive so it 's not hard to get such a ratio .
In other places zoning is bastard , let residential building go anywhere and you 'd probably have no parking lots in 5 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If price of land &gt; price of multistory parking than guess what gets built?In many American cities that's the case, parking structures and multistory buildings in general are expensive so it's not hard to get such a ratio.
In other places zoning is bastard, let residential building go anywhere and you'd probably have no parking lots in 5 years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31626552</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269619500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're not serious are you.  The tasks you are talking about are not as simple as you suggest and if not implemented properly could cause more accidents than they prevent.  I don't think it is appropriate for a computer to take control of braking without having them fully control the rest of the driving.  It may be doable now, but all the required processing takes a serious amount of processing power, and would have to be proven safe before being allowed on the road.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're not serious are you .
The tasks you are talking about are not as simple as you suggest and if not implemented properly could cause more accidents than they prevent .
I do n't think it is appropriate for a computer to take control of braking without having them fully control the rest of the driving .
It may be doable now , but all the required processing takes a serious amount of processing power , and would have to be proven safe before being allowed on the road .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're not serious are you.
The tasks you are talking about are not as simple as you suggest and if not implemented properly could cause more accidents than they prevent.
I don't think it is appropriate for a computer to take control of braking without having them fully control the rest of the driving.
It may be doable now, but all the required processing takes a serious amount of processing power, and would have to be proven safe before being allowed on the road.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608110</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Marcika</author>
	<datestamp>1269510000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> When the most vocal 20 percent of the population literally shat on the floor</p></div><p>Either you don't know the meaning of "literally", or I really missed the best part of those reports about the tea parties...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>When the most vocal 20 percent of the population literally shat on the floorEither you do n't know the meaning of " literally " , or I really missed the best part of those reports about the tea parties.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> When the most vocal 20 percent of the population literally shat on the floorEither you don't know the meaning of "literally", or I really missed the best part of those reports about the tea parties...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608588</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>incognito84</author>
	<datestamp>1269518040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As the article says, this is an innovative move not necessarily designed to cater to Americans. If you've ever spent any time at all in places like Shanghai, Beijing, Seoul or Tokyo you'd perfectly understand the need for super-small, networked vehicles like this. There are plenty of roads in all the aforementioned cities that are too small for a large American car to even drive on, let alone maneuver.</p><p>I also wouldn't let the current Toyota issue cloud judgement. Here are some variables on modern roads that are far more dangerous than Toyota's brake malfunction:</p><p>-Old drivers.<br>-Teenage drivers.<br>-Drunk drivers.<br>-Texting drivers.<br>-All forms of inattentive drivers.<br>-People that are just bad drivers.<br>etc. etc.</p><p>I'd trust a computer to drive over those any day of the week!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As the article says , this is an innovative move not necessarily designed to cater to Americans .
If you 've ever spent any time at all in places like Shanghai , Beijing , Seoul or Tokyo you 'd perfectly understand the need for super-small , networked vehicles like this .
There are plenty of roads in all the aforementioned cities that are too small for a large American car to even drive on , let alone maneuver.I also would n't let the current Toyota issue cloud judgement .
Here are some variables on modern roads that are far more dangerous than Toyota 's brake malfunction : -Old drivers.-Teenage drivers.-Drunk drivers.-Texting drivers.-All forms of inattentive drivers.-People that are just bad drivers.etc .
etc.I 'd trust a computer to drive over those any day of the week !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As the article says, this is an innovative move not necessarily designed to cater to Americans.
If you've ever spent any time at all in places like Shanghai, Beijing, Seoul or Tokyo you'd perfectly understand the need for super-small, networked vehicles like this.
There are plenty of roads in all the aforementioned cities that are too small for a large American car to even drive on, let alone maneuver.I also wouldn't let the current Toyota issue cloud judgement.
Here are some variables on modern roads that are far more dangerous than Toyota's brake malfunction:-Old drivers.-Teenage drivers.-Drunk drivers.-Texting drivers.-All forms of inattentive drivers.-People that are just bad drivers.etc.
etc.I'd trust a computer to drive over those any day of the week!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31611394</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269534720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A horse is as fast and goes farther on a charge, and can recharge anywhere there's grass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A horse is as fast and goes farther on a charge , and can recharge anywhere there 's grass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A horse is as fast and goes farther on a charge, and can recharge anywhere there's grass.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606576</id>
	<title>needs to be at autopilot software standards and no</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1269443460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>needs to be at autopilot software standards and not rush past QA xbox360 standards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>needs to be at autopilot software standards and not rush past QA xbox360 standards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>needs to be at autopilot software standards and not rush past QA xbox360 standards.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605538</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269434940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the hell are you talking about?! Downtown is expensive. In fact, you will often find parking garages because the land is so expensive. Obviously your definition of what "Downtown" is differs from mine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell are you talking about ? !
Downtown is expensive .
In fact , you will often find parking garages because the land is so expensive .
Obviously your definition of what " Downtown " is differs from mine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell are you talking about?!
Downtown is expensive.
In fact, you will often find parking garages because the land is so expensive.
Obviously your definition of what "Downtown" is differs from mine.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605236</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31609490</id>
	<title>Re:The race for most boring vehicle is on</title>
	<author>nukenerd</author>
	<datestamp>1269526560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"<i>There is no reason at all why electric cars should be slow, ugly and boring or even as impractical as this thing is</i>"
<br> <br>
Yes there is.  Someone stated it as a sort of law here a while ago.  I forget his name so I'll pinch it and call it "Nuke's Law".
<br> <br>
Nukes law : <b>"Electric cars must be (i) Tiny, (ii) Ugly, and (iii) Quirky"</b>
<br> <br>
Ok, Ok, one or two exceptions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" There is no reason at all why electric cars should be slow , ugly and boring or even as impractical as this thing is " Yes there is .
Someone stated it as a sort of law here a while ago .
I forget his name so I 'll pinch it and call it " Nuke 's Law " .
Nukes law : " Electric cars must be ( i ) Tiny , ( ii ) Ugly , and ( iii ) Quirky " Ok , Ok , one or two exceptions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"There is no reason at all why electric cars should be slow, ugly and boring or even as impractical as this thing is"
 
Yes there is.
Someone stated it as a sort of law here a while ago.
I forget his name so I'll pinch it and call it "Nuke's Law".
Nukes law : "Electric cars must be (i) Tiny, (ii) Ugly, and (iii) Quirky"
 
Ok, Ok, one or two exceptions.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605706</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>arielCo</author>
	<datestamp>1269436320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This reminded me of <a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/18/0326221/GM-Working-On-Interactive-Windshields" title="slashdot.org">their work on a full-windshield HUD using ultraviolet lasers</a> [slashdot.org] (say that three times). Perhaps they're betting a substantial part of the (bailed) farm on R&amp;D. Why? Patents? Morphing into a tech company? Stay tuned!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This reminded me of their work on a full-windshield HUD using ultraviolet lasers [ slashdot.org ] ( say that three times ) .
Perhaps they 're betting a substantial part of the ( bailed ) farm on R&amp;D .
Why ? Patents ?
Morphing into a tech company ?
Stay tuned !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This reminded me of their work on a full-windshield HUD using ultraviolet lasers [slashdot.org] (say that three times).
Perhaps they're betting a substantial part of the (bailed) farm on R&amp;D.
Why? Patents?
Morphing into a tech company?
Stay tuned!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606684</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>hipp5</author>
	<datestamp>1269444720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want <b>now</b></p> </div><p>Yeah, why the hell would we ever want to do some long-term strategic business planning? Planning ahead is for fools.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now Yeah , why the hell would we ever want to do some long-term strategic business planning ?
Planning ahead is for fools .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now Yeah, why the hell would we ever want to do some long-term strategic business planning?
Planning ahead is for fools.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605194</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31610126</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269529860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Or how about breaking when the car is about to hit something?</i></p><p>Usually they break after you hit something! What if your brakes break when you're about to hit something, then you're REALLY in trouble!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or how about breaking when the car is about to hit something ? Usually they break after you hit something !
What if your brakes break when you 're about to hit something , then you 're REALLY in trouble !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or how about breaking when the car is about to hit something?Usually they break after you hit something!
What if your brakes break when you're about to hit something, then you're REALLY in trouble!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605504</id>
	<title>The people who matter wont buy this</title>
	<author>MikShapi</author>
	<datestamp>1269434820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This ain't serious, people.<br>Yet again, they're aiming at inner-city-dwellers who earn more, pay for more expensive accomodation, need to commute smaller distances and are sometimes willing to pay a premium (most of whom use a prius, Merc SMART, bicycle or motorcycle anyway). Hell, segways will pro'lly outsell this.</p><p>This product further violates an agreement the general public have with their car - simply put, if you want mass adoption, your car needs to be a <i>car</i>. It needs to be a 5-seater you can pack your friends/family into, not a souped-up golf-cart. Which this is.</p><p>This is a gimick that will be dabbled with in a test site or two, and phased away.</p><p>GM are busy being the PALM of the automotive industry. We should be setting our eyes on the company that's busy being a Google or an Apple... way more serious and will pro'lly completely overhaul (read: improve on sufficiently for us to want it) how we see, buy and use cars:</p><p><a href="http://www.brr.com.au/event/58986/partner/theaustralian" title="brr.com.au">http://www.brr.com.au/event/58986/partner/theaustralian</a> [brr.com.au]</p><p>(and several days ago, this: <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/insidebusiness/content/2010/s2851753.htm" title="abc.net.au">http://www.abc.net.au/insidebusiness/content/2010/s2851753.htm</a> [abc.net.au]).</p><p>yanks: coming your way soon as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This ai n't serious , people.Yet again , they 're aiming at inner-city-dwellers who earn more , pay for more expensive accomodation , need to commute smaller distances and are sometimes willing to pay a premium ( most of whom use a prius , Merc SMART , bicycle or motorcycle anyway ) .
Hell , segways will pro'lly outsell this.This product further violates an agreement the general public have with their car - simply put , if you want mass adoption , your car needs to be a car .
It needs to be a 5-seater you can pack your friends/family into , not a souped-up golf-cart .
Which this is.This is a gimick that will be dabbled with in a test site or two , and phased away.GM are busy being the PALM of the automotive industry .
We should be setting our eyes on the company that 's busy being a Google or an Apple... way more serious and will pro'lly completely overhaul ( read : improve on sufficiently for us to want it ) how we see , buy and use cars : http : //www.brr.com.au/event/58986/partner/theaustralian [ brr.com.au ] ( and several days ago , this : http : //www.abc.net.au/insidebusiness/content/2010/s2851753.htm [ abc.net.au ] ) .yanks : coming your way soon as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This ain't serious, people.Yet again, they're aiming at inner-city-dwellers who earn more, pay for more expensive accomodation, need to commute smaller distances and are sometimes willing to pay a premium (most of whom use a prius, Merc SMART, bicycle or motorcycle anyway).
Hell, segways will pro'lly outsell this.This product further violates an agreement the general public have with their car - simply put, if you want mass adoption, your car needs to be a car.
It needs to be a 5-seater you can pack your friends/family into, not a souped-up golf-cart.
Which this is.This is a gimick that will be dabbled with in a test site or two, and phased away.GM are busy being the PALM of the automotive industry.
We should be setting our eyes on the company that's busy being a Google or an Apple... way more serious and will pro'lly completely overhaul (read: improve on sufficiently for us to want it) how we see, buy and use cars:http://www.brr.com.au/event/58986/partner/theaustralian [brr.com.au](and several days ago, this: http://www.abc.net.au/insidebusiness/content/2010/s2851753.htm [abc.net.au]).yanks: coming your way soon as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605540</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269435000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really? All the "Modern American cities" I've lived in aren't like that.</p><p>Portland OR<br>Seattle WA<br>Denver CO<br>Anchorage AK</p><p>Anchorage is more car heavy than the other places because well, its cold here alot of the time and people in cold weather cities usually have more cars per person. Heck Anchorage which is the newest of those cities doesn't have on the street parking for the majority of the city streets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
All the " Modern American cities " I 've lived in are n't like that.Portland ORSeattle WADenver COAnchorage AKAnchorage is more car heavy than the other places because well , its cold here alot of the time and people in cold weather cities usually have more cars per person .
Heck Anchorage which is the newest of those cities does n't have on the street parking for the majority of the city streets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
All the "Modern American cities" I've lived in aren't like that.Portland ORSeattle WADenver COAnchorage AKAnchorage is more car heavy than the other places because well, its cold here alot of the time and people in cold weather cities usually have more cars per person.
Heck Anchorage which is the newest of those cities doesn't have on the street parking for the majority of the city streets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607652</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Organic Brain Damage</author>
	<datestamp>1269458460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd settle for GPS software that could find the Foodland store in Kahului on Maui.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd settle for GPS software that could find the Foodland store in Kahului on Maui .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd settle for GPS software that could find the Foodland store in Kahului on Maui.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31614140</id>
	<title>Re:The first question I ask myself...</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1269542940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>On streets with bone-breaking potholes only a Jeep Cherokee could love.<br></i><br>Funny, I get annoyed crossing a railroad track in my sedan because there's always a Jeep Cherokee or a Hummer braking when going over it. I've come to the conclusion that in my city, anyway (which is NOT representative of anywhere else), people who drive SUVs are pussies, and the bigger the pussy, the bigger the truck. But like I said, most people who live <a href="http://slashdot.org/journal.pl" title="slashdot.org">here</a> [slashdot.org] are cartoons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On streets with bone-breaking potholes only a Jeep Cherokee could love.Funny , I get annoyed crossing a railroad track in my sedan because there 's always a Jeep Cherokee or a Hummer braking when going over it .
I 've come to the conclusion that in my city , anyway ( which is NOT representative of anywhere else ) , people who drive SUVs are pussies , and the bigger the pussy , the bigger the truck .
But like I said , most people who live here [ slashdot.org ] are cartoons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On streets with bone-breaking potholes only a Jeep Cherokee could love.Funny, I get annoyed crossing a railroad track in my sedan because there's always a Jeep Cherokee or a Hummer braking when going over it.
I've come to the conclusion that in my city, anyway (which is NOT representative of anywhere else), people who drive SUVs are pussies, and the bigger the pussy, the bigger the truck.
But like I said, most people who live here [slashdot.org] are cartoons.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605344</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>randy of the redwood</author>
	<datestamp>1269433680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>A motorcycle is half the weight, same basic length, and you can fit more of them on the road.
<p>
Let's put the research into providing the rider all that information on fastest route. </p><p>
As batteries get lighter, electric motorcycles get more practical - <a href="http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/498/3116/Motorcycle-Article/TTXGP--Electric-Motorcycles-Race-Isle-of-Man.aspx" title="motorcycle-usa.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/498/3116/Motorcycle-Article/TTXGP--Electric-Motorcycles-Race-Isle-of-Man.aspx</a> [motorcycle-usa.com] as an example.
</p><p>Until then, tow a battery trailer, with room for groceries on top.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A motorcycle is half the weight , same basic length , and you can fit more of them on the road .
Let 's put the research into providing the rider all that information on fastest route .
As batteries get lighter , electric motorcycles get more practical - http : //www.motorcycle-usa.com/498/3116/Motorcycle-Article/TTXGP--Electric-Motorcycles-Race-Isle-of-Man.aspx [ motorcycle-usa.com ] as an example .
Until then , tow a battery trailer , with room for groceries on top .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A motorcycle is half the weight, same basic length, and you can fit more of them on the road.
Let's put the research into providing the rider all that information on fastest route.
As batteries get lighter, electric motorcycles get more practical - http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/498/3116/Motorcycle-Article/TTXGP--Electric-Motorcycles-Race-Isle-of-Man.aspx [motorcycle-usa.com] as an example.
Until then, tow a battery trailer, with room for groceries on top.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31608650</id>
	<title>Snow?</title>
	<author>Toshito</author>
	<datestamp>1269519060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would love to see this car in the snow... or trying to balance itself on ice...</p><p>And getting 40km of autonomy at -30C, with the heater on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would love to see this car in the snow... or trying to balance itself on ice...And getting 40km of autonomy at -30C , with the heater on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would love to see this car in the snow... or trying to balance itself on ice...And getting 40km of autonomy at -30C, with the heater on.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606656</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Prof.Phreak</author>
	<datestamp>1269444360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>indeed. I'm just now learning to drive (I'm kinda old to just be learning it). In any case, I'm surprised some things haven't been automated yet. Like would it kill the car to signal me that stop sign is coming up? It can't be that big of a deal from image processing point of view... heck, it could even assist on breaking (if it notices I'm going too fast to stop at the right distance). Or how about breaking when the car is about to hit something? (like... a driving instructor would do?). These things aren't beyond the realm of reality for the car of next year... can probably be accomplished with a web-cam like thing pointing in all directions... yet I don't see it in the specs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>indeed .
I 'm just now learning to drive ( I 'm kinda old to just be learning it ) .
In any case , I 'm surprised some things have n't been automated yet .
Like would it kill the car to signal me that stop sign is coming up ?
It ca n't be that big of a deal from image processing point of view... heck , it could even assist on breaking ( if it notices I 'm going too fast to stop at the right distance ) .
Or how about breaking when the car is about to hit something ?
( like... a driving instructor would do ? ) .
These things are n't beyond the realm of reality for the car of next year... can probably be accomplished with a web-cam like thing pointing in all directions... yet I do n't see it in the specs : -/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>indeed.
I'm just now learning to drive (I'm kinda old to just be learning it).
In any case, I'm surprised some things haven't been automated yet.
Like would it kill the car to signal me that stop sign is coming up?
It can't be that big of a deal from image processing point of view... heck, it could even assist on breaking (if it notices I'm going too fast to stop at the right distance).
Or how about breaking when the car is about to hit something?
(like... a driving instructor would do?).
These things aren't beyond the realm of reality for the car of next year... can probably be accomplished with a web-cam like thing pointing in all directions... yet I don't see it in the specs :-/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607958</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1269508440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why not go all the way and add two extra wheels?</p><p>You know, like a Smart car - weighs the same, measures about the same, is also made of plastic... and is available <b>today</b>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why not go all the way and add two extra wheels ? You know , like a Smart car - weighs the same , measures about the same , is also made of plastic... and is available today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why not go all the way and add two extra wheels?You know, like a Smart car - weighs the same, measures about the same, is also made of plastic... and is available today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31609260</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>PopeRatzo</author>
	<datestamp>1269525000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry.  I guess I should have used "spat" instead, and not on the floor but on a 75 year old congressman who distinguished himself as a fighter for civil rights back in Selma Alabama in 1961 and has fought tirelessly for human rights ever since.</p><p>You can look it up.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry .
I guess I should have used " spat " instead , and not on the floor but on a 75 year old congressman who distinguished himself as a fighter for civil rights back in Selma Alabama in 1961 and has fought tirelessly for human rights ever since.You can look it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry.
I guess I should have used "spat" instead, and not on the floor but on a 75 year old congressman who distinguished himself as a fighter for civil rights back in Selma Alabama in 1961 and has fought tirelessly for human rights ever since.You can look it up.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606130</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269439380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you have multistory carparks ?</p><p>Surely it would be better financially to build buildings and use multistory parking for cars?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you have multistory carparks ? Surely it would be better financially to build buildings and use multistory parking for cars ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you have multistory carparks ?Surely it would be better financially to build buildings and use multistory parking for cars?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607714</id>
	<title>Re:Doesn't solve the problem</title>
	<author>Black Gold Alchemist</author>
	<datestamp>1269459840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In my ideal capitalist utopia, you'll drive your Hummer to the park, and re-fuel it with synthetic gasoline.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In my ideal capitalist utopia , you 'll drive your Hummer to the park , and re-fuel it with synthetic gasoline .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In my ideal capitalist utopia, you'll drive your Hummer to the park, and re-fuel it with synthetic gasoline.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31612424</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269537780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>GPS can't detect when little kids run into the road chasing a soccer ball.</p></div><p>No, but millimetre-wave RADAR can.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>GPS ca n't detect when little kids run into the road chasing a soccer ball.No , but millimetre-wave RADAR can .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GPS can't detect when little kids run into the road chasing a soccer ball.No, but millimetre-wave RADAR can.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605218</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>Un pobre guey</author>
	<datestamp>1269432840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why does it have "dynamic stabilization technology" instead of a possibly passive third wheel? Wouldn't it be simpler, cheaper to manufacture and maintain, and much thriftier in its energy use? How much additional energy is used in maintaining balance?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does it have " dynamic stabilization technology " instead of a possibly passive third wheel ?
Would n't it be simpler , cheaper to manufacture and maintain , and much thriftier in its energy use ?
How much additional energy is used in maintaining balance ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why does it have "dynamic stabilization technology" instead of a possibly passive third wheel?
Wouldn't it be simpler, cheaper to manufacture and maintain, and much thriftier in its energy use?
How much additional energy is used in maintaining balance?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31613896</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>shadowfaxcrx</author>
	<datestamp>1269542280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What works for one situation is not guaranteed to work for another.</p><p>You don't generally have to worry about hitting pedestrians when you're 40,000 feet in the air. Aviation is very tightly controlled. There are very rarely any sudden moves made by pilots - even by private pilots. They're much more highly trained than the average driver and pedestrian. If the kind of idiot you typically see driving around town were to start flying, you'd see a lot more aviation disasters, with or without auto pilot.</p><p>And while the autopilot in airplanes works quite well, you don't see the pilots setting the auto pilot and then wandering to the back of the plane for a nap. And pilots who set the auto pilot and then fail to monitor the airplane for an hour while they play on their laptops, get their licenses revoked. If you seriously think drivers would set the auto-nav and then monitor what the car was doing very carefully for the entire trip, you're sorely mistaken. We would be relying strictly upon the computer to conduct the vehicle safely. I'm sure that's in our future, but it's in our very distant future, and it's probably going to involve a centralized computer coordinating everything, rather than individual anarchic computers all acting for themselves.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What works for one situation is not guaranteed to work for another.You do n't generally have to worry about hitting pedestrians when you 're 40,000 feet in the air .
Aviation is very tightly controlled .
There are very rarely any sudden moves made by pilots - even by private pilots .
They 're much more highly trained than the average driver and pedestrian .
If the kind of idiot you typically see driving around town were to start flying , you 'd see a lot more aviation disasters , with or without auto pilot.And while the autopilot in airplanes works quite well , you do n't see the pilots setting the auto pilot and then wandering to the back of the plane for a nap .
And pilots who set the auto pilot and then fail to monitor the airplane for an hour while they play on their laptops , get their licenses revoked .
If you seriously think drivers would set the auto-nav and then monitor what the car was doing very carefully for the entire trip , you 're sorely mistaken .
We would be relying strictly upon the computer to conduct the vehicle safely .
I 'm sure that 's in our future , but it 's in our very distant future , and it 's probably going to involve a centralized computer coordinating everything , rather than individual anarchic computers all acting for themselves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What works for one situation is not guaranteed to work for another.You don't generally have to worry about hitting pedestrians when you're 40,000 feet in the air.
Aviation is very tightly controlled.
There are very rarely any sudden moves made by pilots - even by private pilots.
They're much more highly trained than the average driver and pedestrian.
If the kind of idiot you typically see driving around town were to start flying, you'd see a lot more aviation disasters, with or without auto pilot.And while the autopilot in airplanes works quite well, you don't see the pilots setting the auto pilot and then wandering to the back of the plane for a nap.
And pilots who set the auto pilot and then fail to monitor the airplane for an hour while they play on their laptops, get their licenses revoked.
If you seriously think drivers would set the auto-nav and then monitor what the car was doing very carefully for the entire trip, you're sorely mistaken.
We would be relying strictly upon the computer to conduct the vehicle safely.
I'm sure that's in our future, but it's in our very distant future, and it's probably going to involve a centralized computer coordinating everything, rather than individual anarchic computers all acting for themselves.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606092</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269439080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Toyota has lots of issues because they did that code in Japan. They do not have the high standards that every one thinks that they had. SImply put, they were able to buy off inspectors for 8 years. OTH, GM has taken software seriously. Most of their is coming from the Aviation world. Personally, I would trust GM on software far more than I would trust code coming from any of the Asia firms, or from Ford .</htmltext>
<tokenext>Toyota has lots of issues because they did that code in Japan .
They do not have the high standards that every one thinks that they had .
SImply put , they were able to buy off inspectors for 8 years .
OTH , GM has taken software seriously .
Most of their is coming from the Aviation world .
Personally , I would trust GM on software far more than I would trust code coming from any of the Asia firms , or from Ford .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Toyota has lots of issues because they did that code in Japan.
They do not have the high standards that every one thinks that they had.
SImply put, they were able to buy off inspectors for 8 years.
OTH, GM has taken software seriously.
Most of their is coming from the Aviation world.
Personally, I would trust GM on software far more than I would trust code coming from any of the Asia firms, or from Ford .</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605642</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Penguinisto</author>
	<datestamp>1269435720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>"You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now, not what Shatner fanboys are hoping will exist in 20 years."</i></p><p>Err, you do realize that some of that "Shatner fanboy" stuff actually does have a use, right? See also GPS navigation, iPod connectivity, the multifunction screen-from-hell that usually sits where the stereo used to on the dashboard...</p><p>I can agree that the Segway-like gear is probably a bit beyond practicality for both mass-production and cost-effectiveness. And the wi-fi guidance thing? Pure dreaming straight out of the 1990s, and I wouldn't want to trust my ass to it until network hacking goes extinct, thanks much.</p><p>That said, I'll turn the gist of my argument over to the old baby || bathwater &gt; toss analogy.</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>/P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now , not what Shatner fanboys are hoping will exist in 20 years .
" Err , you do realize that some of that " Shatner fanboy " stuff actually does have a use , right ?
See also GPS navigation , iPod connectivity , the multifunction screen-from-hell that usually sits where the stereo used to on the dashboard...I can agree that the Segway-like gear is probably a bit beyond practicality for both mass-production and cost-effectiveness .
And the wi-fi guidance thing ?
Pure dreaming straight out of the 1990s , and I would n't want to trust my ass to it until network hacking goes extinct , thanks much.That said , I 'll turn the gist of my argument over to the old baby | | bathwater &gt; toss analogy .
/P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"You guys need to stick to trying to make what people want now, not what Shatner fanboys are hoping will exist in 20 years.
"Err, you do realize that some of that "Shatner fanboy" stuff actually does have a use, right?
See also GPS navigation, iPod connectivity, the multifunction screen-from-hell that usually sits where the stereo used to on the dashboard...I can agree that the Segway-like gear is probably a bit beyond practicality for both mass-production and cost-effectiveness.
And the wi-fi guidance thing?
Pure dreaming straight out of the 1990s, and I wouldn't want to trust my ass to it until network hacking goes extinct, thanks much.That said, I'll turn the gist of my argument over to the old baby || bathwater &gt; toss analogy.
/P</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605276</id>
	<title>FagorZ</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269433260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>goals. It's when Of BSD/OS. A recent Sy5 Admin profits without</htmltext>
<tokenext>goals .
It 's when Of BSD/OS .
A recent Sy5 Admin profits without</tokentext>
<sentencetext>goals.
It's when Of BSD/OS.
A recent Sy5 Admin profits without</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607404</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1269454560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>autopilots in aircraft work when aircraft are separated by a couple of miles, and you don't have young children (and moronic adults) running out in front of moving aircraft without looking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>autopilots in aircraft work when aircraft are separated by a couple of miles , and you do n't have young children ( and moronic adults ) running out in front of moving aircraft without looking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>autopilots in aircraft work when aircraft are separated by a couple of miles, and you don't have young children (and moronic adults) running out in front of moving aircraft without looking.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605374</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269433860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, a third wheel would reduce the energy cost to zero when standing still. But the dynamic stabilization technology isn't there for that. It's there so that when you hit the breaks hard on a vehicule of such dimensions you don't land flat on your face.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , a third wheel would reduce the energy cost to zero when standing still .
But the dynamic stabilization technology is n't there for that .
It 's there so that when you hit the breaks hard on a vehicule of such dimensions you do n't land flat on your face .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, a third wheel would reduce the energy cost to zero when standing still.
But the dynamic stabilization technology isn't there for that.
It's there so that when you hit the breaks hard on a vehicule of such dimensions you don't land flat on your face.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605252</id>
	<title>closer to what i'd like in car electronics</title>
	<author>Michael Kristopeit</author>
	<datestamp>1269433080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>if you are trying to move into my lane, i want my car to be able to send a signal to your car to not allow that to happen.  i fully understand the implications and trust our justice system to prosecute rogue signal transmitters.  many cars already implement rev limiters, so the only issue is trusting the signal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>if you are trying to move into my lane , i want my car to be able to send a signal to your car to not allow that to happen .
i fully understand the implications and trust our justice system to prosecute rogue signal transmitters .
many cars already implement rev limiters , so the only issue is trusting the signal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if you are trying to move into my lane, i want my car to be able to send a signal to your car to not allow that to happen.
i fully understand the implications and trust our justice system to prosecute rogue signal transmitters.
many cars already implement rev limiters, so the only issue is trusting the signal.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606204</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>spun</author>
	<datestamp>1269439980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know, I don't often do this, and perhaps some people here have gotten the impression that I don't love my country, so I just have to say, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darpa\_challenge" title="wikipedia.org">America, Fuck Yeah!</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , I do n't often do this , and perhaps some people here have gotten the impression that I do n't love my country , so I just have to say , America , Fuck Yeah !
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, I don't often do this, and perhaps some people here have gotten the impression that I don't love my country, so I just have to say, America, Fuck Yeah!
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31605946</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>Aladrin</author>
	<datestamp>1269438060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>All those moving parts...  Wouldn't it be safer, cheaper and easier to just have a horse pull it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All those moving parts... Would n't it be safer , cheaper and easier to just have a horse pull it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All those moving parts...  Wouldn't it be safer, cheaper and easier to just have a horse pull it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31607174</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>JWSmythe</author>
	<datestamp>1269450060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Actually, you've spotted the #1 cause of accidents.  Human failure.  "I didn't see...", "I couldn't stop in time", and "I didn't realize..." are all fine excuses, but they're all human failures in operating thousands of pounds of motor vehicle.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I don't really foresee self driving cars on the road any time soon though.  Like, not in our lifetime. The first time a kid runs out in front of an automated car and gets run over because it couldn't detect a child playing in a yard as being an obstacle, automated cars will be outlawed.  For the average (good) driver, he can identify kids playing in the yard, slow down, and when a kid goes running out into the road, avoid the collision.  The best we can hope for in automation is to know that the object is there.  If an automated car slowed down every time there was an object in a yard it would have to pretty much remain parked.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; I would love to see some of the systems that have been prototyped over the last 20 years show up in cars, such as automatic braking when following too close.  That, unfortunately, may make drivers pay less attention to driving.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>    Actually , you 've spotted the # 1 cause of accidents .
Human failure .
" I did n't see... " , " I could n't stop in time " , and " I did n't realize... " are all fine excuses , but they 're all human failures in operating thousands of pounds of motor vehicle .
    I do n't really foresee self driving cars on the road any time soon though .
Like , not in our lifetime .
The first time a kid runs out in front of an automated car and gets run over because it could n't detect a child playing in a yard as being an obstacle , automated cars will be outlawed .
For the average ( good ) driver , he can identify kids playing in the yard , slow down , and when a kid goes running out into the road , avoid the collision .
The best we can hope for in automation is to know that the object is there .
If an automated car slowed down every time there was an object in a yard it would have to pretty much remain parked .
    I would love to see some of the systems that have been prototyped over the last 20 years show up in cars , such as automatic braking when following too close .
That , unfortunately , may make drivers pay less attention to driving .
   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>
    Actually, you've spotted the #1 cause of accidents.
Human failure.
"I didn't see...", "I couldn't stop in time", and "I didn't realize..." are all fine excuses, but they're all human failures in operating thousands of pounds of motor vehicle.
    I don't really foresee self driving cars on the road any time soon though.
Like, not in our lifetime.
The first time a kid runs out in front of an automated car and gets run over because it couldn't detect a child playing in a yard as being an obstacle, automated cars will be outlawed.
For the average (good) driver, he can identify kids playing in the yard, slow down, and when a kid goes running out into the road, avoid the collision.
The best we can hope for in automation is to know that the object is there.
If an automated car slowed down every time there was an object in a yard it would have to pretty much remain parked.
    I would love to see some of the systems that have been prototyped over the last 20 years show up in cars, such as automatic braking when following too close.
That, unfortunately, may make drivers pay less attention to driving.
   </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_24_2223216.31606616</id>
	<title>Re:GM's eyes are bigger than its stomach ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269444000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is possible, but it'll never happen, for the same reason it hasn't happened in the airline industry (where the route problem is actually much, much easier...)</p><p>People are panicky and stupid.</p><p>An automatic car system could reduce road deaths by 98\%, but those remaining 2\% will be errors in the software, so the whole thing would be derided as death-traps.</p><p>On the other hand, I'd buy an automated car on almost any other network than Government Motors.  I wouldn't trust that company with a 39 1/2 foot pole, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're only now pushing it because their new partnership could actually get it <em>mandated</em> into place.</p><p>Buffett may like <em>investing</em> in utilities, but for the same reason, the rest of us shouldn't like creating them or buying stuff from them.  For me, the next car I buy will be Ford or Foreign.  There are no other choices remaining.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is possible , but it 'll never happen , for the same reason it has n't happened in the airline industry ( where the route problem is actually much , much easier... ) People are panicky and stupid.An automatic car system could reduce road deaths by 98 \ % , but those remaining 2 \ % will be errors in the software , so the whole thing would be derided as death-traps.On the other hand , I 'd buy an automated car on almost any other network than Government Motors .
I would n't trust that company with a 39 1/2 foot pole , and I would n't be surprised if they 're only now pushing it because their new partnership could actually get it mandated into place.Buffett may like investing in utilities , but for the same reason , the rest of us should n't like creating them or buying stuff from them .
For me , the next car I buy will be Ford or Foreign .
There are no other choices remaining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is possible, but it'll never happen, for the same reason it hasn't happened in the airline industry (where the route problem is actually much, much easier...)People are panicky and stupid.An automatic car system could reduce road deaths by 98\%, but those remaining 2\% will be errors in the software, so the whole thing would be derided as death-traps.On the other hand, I'd buy an automated car on almost any other network than Government Motors.
I wouldn't trust that company with a 39 1/2 foot pole, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're only now pushing it because their new partnership could actually get it mandated into place.Buffett may like investing in utilities, but for the same reason, the rest of us shouldn't like creating them or buying stuff from them.
For me, the next car I buy will be Ford or Foreign.
There are no other choices remaining.</sentencetext>
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	<title>The race for most boring vehicle is on</title>
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	<htmltext>To be honest I'd rather ride a freaking bicycle than this boring enclosed driverless segway. Future tech used to be cool, fast and just plain kick ass. But now its just suck ass, partly due to the whole global warming doomsday environmentalist 'green' 'anything you do is a sin' mentality &amp; paranoid obsession with safety that has been going around. <br> <br>

There should be less of this type of slow driverless segway and more Tesla Roadster, Wrightspeed X1 or even a practical 4 seater without worthless gimmicks like integrated twitter and facebook. There is no reason at all why electric cars should be slow, ugly and boring or even as impractical as this thing is.

Basically where is my flying car and get off my lawn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be honest I 'd rather ride a freaking bicycle than this boring enclosed driverless segway .
Future tech used to be cool , fast and just plain kick ass .
But now its just suck ass , partly due to the whole global warming doomsday environmentalist 'green ' 'anything you do is a sin ' mentality &amp; paranoid obsession with safety that has been going around .
There should be less of this type of slow driverless segway and more Tesla Roadster , Wrightspeed X1 or even a practical 4 seater without worthless gimmicks like integrated twitter and facebook .
There is no reason at all why electric cars should be slow , ugly and boring or even as impractical as this thing is .
Basically where is my flying car and get off my lawn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be honest I'd rather ride a freaking bicycle than this boring enclosed driverless segway.
Future tech used to be cool, fast and just plain kick ass.
But now its just suck ass, partly due to the whole global warming doomsday environmentalist 'green' 'anything you do is a sin' mentality &amp; paranoid obsession with safety that has been going around.
There should be less of this type of slow driverless segway and more Tesla Roadster, Wrightspeed X1 or even a practical 4 seater without worthless gimmicks like integrated twitter and facebook.
There is no reason at all why electric cars should be slow, ugly and boring or even as impractical as this thing is.
Basically where is my flying car and get off my lawn.</sentencetext>
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