<article>
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	<title>Supersizing the "Last Supper"<span class="vballoon-marquee rd\_5"><span>Comments:</span><a href="#">98</a></span></title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1269362280000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>gandhi\_2 writes <i>"A pair of sibling scholars compared 52 artists' renditions of 'The Last Supper', and found that <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-last-supper23-2010mar23,0,7531075.story">the size of the meal painted had grown through the years</a>. Over the last millennium they found that entrees had increased by 70\%, bread by 23\%, and plate size by 65.6\%. Their findings were published in the International Journal of Obesity. From the article: 'The apostles depicted during the Middle Ages appear to be the ascetics they are said to have been. But by 1498, when Leonardo da Vinci completed his masterpiece, the party was more lavishly fed. Almost a century later, the Mannerist painter Jacobo Tintoretto piled the food on the apostles' plates still higher.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>gandhi \ _2 writes " A pair of sibling scholars compared 52 artists ' renditions of 'The Last Supper ' , and found that the size of the meal painted had grown through the years .
Over the last millennium they found that entrees had increased by 70 \ % , bread by 23 \ % , and plate size by 65.6 \ % .
Their findings were published in the International Journal of Obesity .
From the article : 'The apostles depicted during the Middle Ages appear to be the ascetics they are said to have been .
But by 1498 , when Leonardo da Vinci completed his masterpiece , the party was more lavishly fed .
Almost a century later , the Mannerist painter Jacobo Tintoretto piled the food on the apostles ' plates still higher .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>gandhi\_2 writes "A pair of sibling scholars compared 52 artists' renditions of 'The Last Supper', and found that the size of the meal painted had grown through the years.
Over the last millennium they found that entrees had increased by 70\%, bread by 23\%, and plate size by 65.6\%.
Their findings were published in the International Journal of Obesity.
From the article: 'The apostles depicted during the Middle Ages appear to be the ascetics they are said to have been.
But by 1498, when Leonardo da Vinci completed his masterpiece, the party was more lavishly fed.
Almost a century later, the Mannerist painter Jacobo Tintoretto piled the food on the apostles' plates still higher.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588700</id>
	<title>Re:Some historians are actually questioning Da Vic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269335940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Three Christs, and 27 apostrophes swimming nude together in a giant bowl of hummus.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Three Christs , and 27 apostrophes swimming nude together in a giant bowl of hummus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Three Christs, and 27 apostrophes swimming nude together in a giant bowl of hummus.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585498</id>
	<title>Worthless article</title>
	<author>IICV</author>
	<datestamp>1269366180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That article was worthless. It's about a series of paintings, and yet the only picture is of some athlete in the side column.</p><p>If this is the current standard of quality in newspapers, no wonder they're a dying breed.</p><p>tl;dr: relevant pics or gtfo!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That article was worthless .
It 's about a series of paintings , and yet the only picture is of some athlete in the side column.If this is the current standard of quality in newspapers , no wonder they 're a dying breed.tl ; dr : relevant pics or gtfo !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That article was worthless.
It's about a series of paintings, and yet the only picture is of some athlete in the side column.If this is the current standard of quality in newspapers, no wonder they're a dying breed.tl;dr: relevant pics or gtfo!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31589722</id>
	<title>Re:Why?</title>
	<author>The Wild Norseman</author>
	<datestamp>1269340980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So if I made an article which compares breast implant trends from the 60's to now as long as I used math it would make it here?</p></div><p>Well, sure, as long as you posted your math.<br> <br>And pictures.  Lots of pictures.<br> <br>This is, after all, Slashdot, where we simply could not just take your word for it and  I, for one, would feel compelled to replicate your findings.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So if I made an article which compares breast implant trends from the 60 's to now as long as I used math it would make it here ? Well , sure , as long as you posted your math .
And pictures .
Lots of pictures .
This is , after all , Slashdot , where we simply could not just take your word for it and I , for one , would feel compelled to replicate your findings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if I made an article which compares breast implant trends from the 60's to now as long as I used math it would make it here?Well, sure, as long as you posted your math.
And pictures.
Lots of pictures.
This is, after all, Slashdot, where we simply could not just take your word for it and  I, for one, would feel compelled to replicate your findings.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31587954</id>
	<title>Re:"Scholars"?</title>
	<author>tomhudson</author>
	<datestamp>1269375360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'll call Harvard and have them disband the entire English Literature department.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>

It would be an improvement.
</p><p>
-- Yale</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll call Harvard and have them disband the entire English Literature department .
It would be an improvement .
-- Yale</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll call Harvard and have them disband the entire English Literature department.
It would be an improvement.
-- Yale
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585710</id>
	<title>Re:Worthless article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269366960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A less worthless article can be found here:<br><a href="http://www.mindlesseating.org/lastsupper/" title="mindlesseating.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mindlesseating.org/lastsupper/</a> [mindlesseating.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A less worthless article can be found here : http : //www.mindlesseating.org/lastsupper/ [ mindlesseating.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A less worthless article can be found here:http://www.mindlesseating.org/lastsupper/ [mindlesseating.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585822</id>
	<title>Ignoble prize, anyone ?</title>
	<author>Laxator2</author>
	<datestamp>1269367320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This looks to me like an attempt to win an ignoble prize.

Just like this one, which was an actual winner:
<a href="http://improbable.com/ig/2002/scrotal-asymmetry.pdf" title="improbable.com" rel="nofollow">http://improbable.com/ig/2002/scrotal-asymmetry.pdf</a> [improbable.com]
"Scrotal Asymmetry in Man and in Ancient Scupture"</htmltext>
<tokenext>This looks to me like an attempt to win an ignoble prize .
Just like this one , which was an actual winner : http : //improbable.com/ig/2002/scrotal-asymmetry.pdf [ improbable.com ] " Scrotal Asymmetry in Man and in Ancient Scupture "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This looks to me like an attempt to win an ignoble prize.
Just like this one, which was an actual winner:
http://improbable.com/ig/2002/scrotal-asymmetry.pdf [improbable.com]
"Scrotal Asymmetry in Man and in Ancient Scupture"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585546</id>
	<title>Re:"Scholars"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269366360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'll call Harvard and have them disband the entire English Literature department.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll call Harvard and have them disband the entire English Literature department .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll call Harvard and have them disband the entire English Literature department.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588774</id>
	<title>Re:"Scholars"?</title>
	<author>metlin</author>
	<datestamp>1269336240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean, the <a href="http://www.hds.harvard.edu/" title="harvard.edu">Harvard Divnity School</a> [harvard.edu]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean , the Harvard Divnity School [ harvard.edu ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean, the Harvard Divnity School [harvard.edu]?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585602</id>
	<title>Food matters!</title>
	<author>ThePangolino</author>
	<datestamp>1269366540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This story proves tow things: The first is obviously that size matters when it comes to food. And the second which is slightly more deep: Slashdot is indeed about stuff that matters... sometimes. Food!</htmltext>
<tokenext>This story proves tow things : The first is obviously that size matters when it comes to food .
And the second which is slightly more deep : Slashdot is indeed about stuff that matters... sometimes. Food !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This story proves tow things: The first is obviously that size matters when it comes to food.
And the second which is slightly more deep: Slashdot is indeed about stuff that matters... sometimes. Food!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31589244</id>
	<title>Special interests</title>
	<author>operagost</author>
	<datestamp>1269338400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>God, I pray that none of our tax dollars funded this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>God , I pray that none of our tax dollars funded this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God, I pray that none of our tax dollars funded this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31586636</id>
	<title>Two words:</title>
	<author>TheHawke</author>
	<datestamp>1269370440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Artistic License.  The artists at the time were portraying this painting in their own eye, during times that when food was increasing in supply. Same deal with Rockwell and his work.</p><p>This is a riot that a obesity study group would try to connect the lines between historic and religious art with obesity.  That is rather like trying to associate American League Football with blood sports.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Artistic License .
The artists at the time were portraying this painting in their own eye , during times that when food was increasing in supply .
Same deal with Rockwell and his work.This is a riot that a obesity study group would try to connect the lines between historic and religious art with obesity .
That is rather like trying to associate American League Football with blood sports .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Artistic License.
The artists at the time were portraying this painting in their own eye, during times that when food was increasing in supply.
Same deal with Rockwell and his work.This is a riot that a obesity study group would try to connect the lines between historic and religious art with obesity.
That is rather like trying to associate American League Football with blood sports.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585482</id>
	<title>Yeah, but...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269366120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But they drank Diet Coke!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But they drank Diet Coke ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But they drank Diet Coke!!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31587732</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269374220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>In the next years you will see a freaking burger on the last supper</p><p>no shit</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the next years you will see a freaking burger on the last supperno shit</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the next years you will see a freaking burger on the last supperno shit</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585578</id>
	<title>idiotic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269366480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Did they ever think that over time people became more advances and better able to feed themselves. We no longer live on the verge of starvation!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Did they ever think that over time people became more advances and better able to feed themselves .
We no longer live on the verge of starvation !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Did they ever think that over time people became more advances and better able to feed themselves.
We no longer live on the verge of starvation!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31586412</id>
	<title>No Surprise</title>
	<author>kitsunewarlock</author>
	<datestamp>1269369660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The painting was made in the dining room of a monastery in the first place.  Its not surprise that extra food would be added...</htmltext>
<tokenext>The painting was made in the dining room of a monastery in the first place .
Its not surprise that extra food would be added.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The painting was made in the dining room of a monastery in the first place.
Its not surprise that extra food would be added...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588470</id>
	<title>There's something to this...</title>
	<author>hallux.sinister</author>
	<datestamp>1269377880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext>The researchers are, I think onto something here, but not what everyone seems to think.  I saw this story carried on another site originally, and so I am willing to give it more credit than I would a typical "Idle" story... having read TFA, I suggest this merits our attention.  The implication of the article is that it has to do with obesity, and although there may exist a very distant relationship, I don't think the obesity connection is what we should consider.  <br> No, I think it may be a function of the amount of food on, and the typical size of the average person's dinner plate at or around the time the painting was made.  As people got progressively better at farming, and as governments became more proficient at ensuring political and/or economic stability for the masses, the amount of food available probably went WAY up.  The size of the portions in the paintings doubtless reflects a bias on the part of the painter to presume that portion size historically is similar to what he experienced during his own lifetime.  I think that is a better conclusion to draw than, "OMG, we've been getting progressively fatter for over a thousand years!"</htmltext>
<tokenext>The researchers are , I think onto something here , but not what everyone seems to think .
I saw this story carried on another site originally , and so I am willing to give it more credit than I would a typical " Idle " story... having read TFA , I suggest this merits our attention .
The implication of the article is that it has to do with obesity , and although there may exist a very distant relationship , I do n't think the obesity connection is what we should consider .
No , I think it may be a function of the amount of food on , and the typical size of the average person 's dinner plate at or around the time the painting was made .
As people got progressively better at farming , and as governments became more proficient at ensuring political and/or economic stability for the masses , the amount of food available probably went WAY up .
The size of the portions in the paintings doubtless reflects a bias on the part of the painter to presume that portion size historically is similar to what he experienced during his own lifetime .
I think that is a better conclusion to draw than , " OMG , we 've been getting progressively fatter for over a thousand years !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The researchers are, I think onto something here, but not what everyone seems to think.
I saw this story carried on another site originally, and so I am willing to give it more credit than I would a typical "Idle" story... having read TFA, I suggest this merits our attention.
The implication of the article is that it has to do with obesity, and although there may exist a very distant relationship, I don't think the obesity connection is what we should consider.
No, I think it may be a function of the amount of food on, and the typical size of the average person's dinner plate at or around the time the painting was made.
As people got progressively better at farming, and as governments became more proficient at ensuring political and/or economic stability for the masses, the amount of food available probably went WAY up.
The size of the portions in the paintings doubtless reflects a bias on the part of the painter to presume that portion size historically is similar to what he experienced during his own lifetime.
I think that is a better conclusion to draw than, "OMG, we've been getting progressively fatter for over a thousand years!
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31589346</id>
	<title>Re:Art reveals culture, news at 11.</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1269339000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It also depicts them as a bunch of white guys.<br>No, I'm not suggesting that Jesus was black. But he probably wasn't white.</i> </p><p>How many black guys would you have seen in a European congregation circa AD 1000?</p><p>Ecclesiastical art has two roots:</p><p>It illustrated and taught the Biblical narrative to an audience that could not read Hebrew, Latin or Greek. It engaged the laity even more directly by commissioning works from local artists and craftsman, whose work is most vital and appealing when it is closest to their own experience.</p><p>The faces aren't oriental - but neither are the costumes, landscapes, settings and props.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also depicts them as a bunch of white guys.No , I 'm not suggesting that Jesus was black .
But he probably was n't white .
How many black guys would you have seen in a European congregation circa AD 1000 ? Ecclesiastical art has two roots : It illustrated and taught the Biblical narrative to an audience that could not read Hebrew , Latin or Greek .
It engaged the laity even more directly by commissioning works from local artists and craftsman , whose work is most vital and appealing when it is closest to their own experience.The faces are n't oriental - but neither are the costumes , landscapes , settings and props .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also depicts them as a bunch of white guys.No, I'm not suggesting that Jesus was black.
But he probably wasn't white.
How many black guys would you have seen in a European congregation circa AD 1000?Ecclesiastical art has two roots:It illustrated and taught the Biblical narrative to an audience that could not read Hebrew, Latin or Greek.
It engaged the laity even more directly by commissioning works from local artists and craftsman, whose work is most vital and appealing when it is closest to their own experience.The faces aren't oriental - but neither are the costumes, landscapes, settings and props.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588582</id>
	<title>Why?</title>
	<author>ooshna</author>
	<datestamp>1269335340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why is this here?  Is it that anything with a little math is considered worthy of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.?  So if I made an article which compares breast implant trends from the 60's to now as long as I used math it would make it here?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why is this here ?
Is it that anything with a little math is considered worthy of /. ?
So if I made an article which compares breast implant trends from the 60 's to now as long as I used math it would make it here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why is this here?
Is it that anything with a little math is considered worthy of /.?
So if I made an article which compares breast implant trends from the 60's to now as long as I used math it would make it here?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588636</id>
	<title>Re:This isn't Da Vinci's fault</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1269335580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cathars? Oh, it gets worse.  The actual last supper was a seder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cathars ?
Oh , it gets worse .
The actual last supper was a seder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cathars?
Oh, it gets worse.
The actual last supper was a seder.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31591422</id>
	<title>Re:This isn't Da Vinci's fault</title>
	<author>kale77in</author>
	<datestamp>1269348000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Asceticism declined after Aquinas put Catholic theology on an Aristotelian basis (contra the more dualistic Platonism of Augustine). This revalued matter and nature in theology, which changed from being something generally inimical to the contemplative and spiritual life to something generally supportive of, and in cases conducive to it; this became the foundation for art and science moving forward. If we had a Slashdot poll, "What idea created western civilisation", this would get my vote. As a side-effect, within a hundred years the doctrine of the complete poverty of Christ and the apostles (a relic of monasticism) basically disappeared from the mainstream.</p><p>

&gt; Da Vinci may never have even considered the idea that an apostle was an ascetic.

</p><p>But the deeper thinkers would be more prone to it, as it drew which took a lot of its support from the Greek philosophers. Or, like Pascal with Jansenism, they may have been attracted to movements and ideas outside of the mainstream; asceticism's marginalisation wouldn't have affected their evaluation of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Asceticism declined after Aquinas put Catholic theology on an Aristotelian basis ( contra the more dualistic Platonism of Augustine ) .
This revalued matter and nature in theology , which changed from being something generally inimical to the contemplative and spiritual life to something generally supportive of , and in cases conducive to it ; this became the foundation for art and science moving forward .
If we had a Slashdot poll , " What idea created western civilisation " , this would get my vote .
As a side-effect , within a hundred years the doctrine of the complete poverty of Christ and the apostles ( a relic of monasticism ) basically disappeared from the mainstream .
&gt; Da Vinci may never have even considered the idea that an apostle was an ascetic .
But the deeper thinkers would be more prone to it , as it drew which took a lot of its support from the Greek philosophers .
Or , like Pascal with Jansenism , they may have been attracted to movements and ideas outside of the mainstream ; asceticism 's marginalisation would n't have affected their evaluation of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Asceticism declined after Aquinas put Catholic theology on an Aristotelian basis (contra the more dualistic Platonism of Augustine).
This revalued matter and nature in theology, which changed from being something generally inimical to the contemplative and spiritual life to something generally supportive of, and in cases conducive to it; this became the foundation for art and science moving forward.
If we had a Slashdot poll, "What idea created western civilisation", this would get my vote.
As a side-effect, within a hundred years the doctrine of the complete poverty of Christ and the apostles (a relic of monasticism) basically disappeared from the mainstream.
&gt; Da Vinci may never have even considered the idea that an apostle was an ascetic.
But the deeper thinkers would be more prone to it, as it drew which took a lot of its support from the Greek philosophers.
Or, like Pascal with Jansenism, they may have been attracted to movements and ideas outside of the mainstream; asceticism's marginalisation wouldn't have affected their evaluation of it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31587564</id>
	<title>Re:Some historians are actually questioning Da Vic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269373560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for the complete transcript you can either read the next 72 posts (undoubtedly they will quote the entire skit) or you can look here:</p><p>http://www.mat.upm.es/~jcm/michelangelo.html</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>for the complete transcript you can either read the next 72 posts ( undoubtedly they will quote the entire skit ) or you can look here : http : //www.mat.upm.es/ ~ jcm/michelangelo.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for the complete transcript you can either read the next 72 posts (undoubtedly they will quote the entire skit) or you can look here:http://www.mat.upm.es/~jcm/michelangelo.html
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585614</id>
	<title>Dicks like Jesus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269366540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My dick so hot it's stolen; your dick look like Gary Coleman.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My dick so hot it 's stolen ; your dick look like Gary Coleman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dick so hot it's stolen; your dick look like Gary Coleman.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585640</id>
	<title>But hey...</title>
	<author>pushing-robot</author>
	<datestamp>1269366660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1IJiAXjj7k" title="youtube.com">It <i>works</i>, mate!</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It works , mate !
[ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It works, mate!
[youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31586094</id>
	<title>Art reveals culture, news at 11.</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1269368400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It also depicts them as a bunch of white guys.</p><p>No, I&rsquo;m not suggesting that Jesus was black. But he probably wasn&rsquo;t white.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It also depicts them as a bunch of white guys.No , I    m not suggesting that Jesus was black .
But he probably wasn    t white .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It also depicts them as a bunch of white guys.No, I’m not suggesting that Jesus was black.
But he probably wasn’t white.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31591708</id>
	<title>why the commotion?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269349620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It just means they hadn't eaten yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It just means they had n't eaten yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It just means they hadn't eaten yet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585468</id>
	<title>"Scholars"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269366120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Wansink and his brother Craig, a <b>biblical scholar</b> at Virginia Wesleyan College,</p></div></blockquote><p>I do not think that word means what you think it means.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wansink and his brother Craig , a biblical scholar at Virginia Wesleyan College,I do not think that word means what you think it means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wansink and his brother Craig, a biblical scholar at Virginia Wesleyan College,I do not think that word means what you think it means.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585622</id>
	<title>Sparrow food</title>
	<author>BrokenHalo</author>
	<datestamp>1269366600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Leonardo's  <i>Last Supper</i> is not exactly what most of us would describe as a pig-out. We see about one bread roll for each disciple and two or three dishes of what looks like some undetermined Indian takeaway, washed down with a few glasses of red wine. Big deal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Leonardo 's Last Supper is not exactly what most of us would describe as a pig-out .
We see about one bread roll for each disciple and two or three dishes of what looks like some undetermined Indian takeaway , washed down with a few glasses of red wine .
Big deal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leonardo's  Last Supper is not exactly what most of us would describe as a pig-out.
We see about one bread roll for each disciple and two or three dishes of what looks like some undetermined Indian takeaway, washed down with a few glasses of red wine.
Big deal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31586666</id>
	<title>Re:Worthless article</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269370560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or newspaper articles about a website without a link</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or newspaper articles about a website without a link</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or newspaper articles about a website without a link</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31587680</id>
	<title>Re:Worthless article</title>
	<author>dunezone</author>
	<datestamp>1269373980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That article was worthless. It's about a series of paintings, and yet the only picture is of some athlete in the side column.</p></div><p>
Damn you copyright laws!!!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That article was worthless .
It 's about a series of paintings , and yet the only picture is of some athlete in the side column .
Damn you copyright laws ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That article was worthless.
It's about a series of paintings, and yet the only picture is of some athlete in the side column.
Damn you copyright laws!!
!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31586842</id>
	<title>This isn't Da Vinci's fault</title>
	<author>blair1q</author>
	<datestamp>1269371100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Beginning early in the 2d Millennium, the Catholic Church started burning many true ascetics (e.g., the Cathars) as heretics.  (They of course then expanded the powers of the Inquisition to include, well, anyone their twisted logic could rationalize to oppress.)</p><p>No doubt this led to a change in the way people perceived heroes from religious history.  Da Vinci may never have even considered the idea that an apostle was an ascetic.  The Inquisition was in full force, and in charge of most of the governments and virtually all of the churches of Europe, when he painted that picture.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Beginning early in the 2d Millennium , the Catholic Church started burning many true ascetics ( e.g. , the Cathars ) as heretics .
( They of course then expanded the powers of the Inquisition to include , well , anyone their twisted logic could rationalize to oppress .
) No doubt this led to a change in the way people perceived heroes from religious history .
Da Vinci may never have even considered the idea that an apostle was an ascetic .
The Inquisition was in full force , and in charge of most of the governments and virtually all of the churches of Europe , when he painted that picture .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beginning early in the 2d Millennium, the Catholic Church started burning many true ascetics (e.g., the Cathars) as heretics.
(They of course then expanded the powers of the Inquisition to include, well, anyone their twisted logic could rationalize to oppress.
)No doubt this led to a change in the way people perceived heroes from religious history.
Da Vinci may never have even considered the idea that an apostle was an ascetic.
The Inquisition was in full force, and in charge of most of the governments and virtually all of the churches of Europe, when he painted that picture.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31587026</id>
	<title>Re:Some historians are actually questioning Da Vic</title>
	<author>Darinbob</author>
	<datestamp>1269371640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll tell you what you want, mate...you want a bloody photographer, not a creative artist with some imagination!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll tell you what you want , mate...you want a bloody photographer , not a creative artist with some imagination !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll tell you what you want, mate...you want a bloody photographer, not a creative artist with some imagination!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585620</id>
	<title>Re:Some historians are actually questioning Da Vic</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1269366600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Historians were also both pleased and horrified by the recent unearthing of a rendition of the Last Supper by Michaelangelo.  While the portion sizes are closer to what is believed to be accurate, the painting also features  such embellishments as a kangaroo, twenty eight disciples, and three Christs.</p><p>However the card attached to the painting is actually labeled "The Penultimate Supper", and historians must admit there are no records of how many people attended that gathering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Historians were also both pleased and horrified by the recent unearthing of a rendition of the Last Supper by Michaelangelo .
While the portion sizes are closer to what is believed to be accurate , the painting also features such embellishments as a kangaroo , twenty eight disciples , and three Christs.However the card attached to the painting is actually labeled " The Penultimate Supper " , and historians must admit there are no records of how many people attended that gathering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Historians were also both pleased and horrified by the recent unearthing of a rendition of the Last Supper by Michaelangelo.
While the portion sizes are closer to what is believed to be accurate, the painting also features  such embellishments as a kangaroo, twenty eight disciples, and three Christs.However the card attached to the painting is actually labeled "The Penultimate Supper", and historians must admit there are no records of how many people attended that gathering.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31587860</id>
	<title>Re:idiotic</title>
	<author>nlindstrom</author>
	<datestamp>1269374880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Praise the Lord and pass the fries!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Praise the Lord and pass the fries !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Praise the Lord and pass the fries!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31585738</id>
	<title>Heads</title>
	<author>Kell Bengal</author>
	<datestamp>1269367020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Using the size of the diners' heads as a basis for comparison, the Wansinks used computers to compare the sizes of the plates in front of the apostles, the food servings on those plates and the bread on the table.</p></div><p>Maybe people's heads have just been getting smaller?  It would sure explain a lot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Using the size of the diners ' heads as a basis for comparison , the Wansinks used computers to compare the sizes of the plates in front of the apostles , the food servings on those plates and the bread on the table.Maybe people 's heads have just been getting smaller ?
It would sure explain a lot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Using the size of the diners' heads as a basis for comparison, the Wansinks used computers to compare the sizes of the plates in front of the apostles, the food servings on those plates and the bread on the table.Maybe people's heads have just been getting smaller?
It would sure explain a lot.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588666</id>
	<title>Re:This isn't Da Vinci's fault</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1269335760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think your facts about persecution are a little off; Thomas de Torquemada, the man responsible for the Spanish inquisition (bet you didn't expect that) was an ascetic, and was a contemporary of Leonardo.  There may be different ideas about what exactly an ascetic was, but certainly St Francis of Assisi must be considered one, the guy walked barefoot everywhere, and he was certainly accepted by the catholic church.<br> <br>
It may be hard for someone who hasn't been involved in religion to understand, but not all of these persecutions were about power or control.  If you've never seen how worked up people can get about certain doctrinal ideas, it can be hard to believe these people are sincere.  But remember it's not just a matter of life or death, it's a matter of eternal salvation.  It is something people are willing to die for.<br> <br>
My favorite example of this is a puritan John Williams (despite their reputation puritans were a feisty group: remember these were people who basically said 'fuck you' to the king). He thought that anyone who supported the church of England was 'contaminated,' and refused to worship with them.  He later decided that those who worshiped with those who were contaminated were also contaminated, eventually coming to the conclusion that only him and his wife were not contaminated, and then discounting her as well.  Finally he decided maybe he was too strict in his principles and reversed them (and lost a lot of respect: Puritans respected those who stood up for their principles to death; they were all willing to do so, after all).<br> <br>
It's crazy but it shows the length people are willing to go to for their sincerely held beliefs.  Although pre-industrial Europe had a lot of power hungry people, it also had a lot of sincere believers.  It is impossible to understand European history accurately if you just look at them all as power hungry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think your facts about persecution are a little off ; Thomas de Torquemada , the man responsible for the Spanish inquisition ( bet you did n't expect that ) was an ascetic , and was a contemporary of Leonardo .
There may be different ideas about what exactly an ascetic was , but certainly St Francis of Assisi must be considered one , the guy walked barefoot everywhere , and he was certainly accepted by the catholic church .
It may be hard for someone who has n't been involved in religion to understand , but not all of these persecutions were about power or control .
If you 've never seen how worked up people can get about certain doctrinal ideas , it can be hard to believe these people are sincere .
But remember it 's not just a matter of life or death , it 's a matter of eternal salvation .
It is something people are willing to die for .
My favorite example of this is a puritan John Williams ( despite their reputation puritans were a feisty group : remember these were people who basically said 'fuck you ' to the king ) .
He thought that anyone who supported the church of England was 'contaminated, ' and refused to worship with them .
He later decided that those who worshiped with those who were contaminated were also contaminated , eventually coming to the conclusion that only him and his wife were not contaminated , and then discounting her as well .
Finally he decided maybe he was too strict in his principles and reversed them ( and lost a lot of respect : Puritans respected those who stood up for their principles to death ; they were all willing to do so , after all ) .
It 's crazy but it shows the length people are willing to go to for their sincerely held beliefs .
Although pre-industrial Europe had a lot of power hungry people , it also had a lot of sincere believers .
It is impossible to understand European history accurately if you just look at them all as power hungry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think your facts about persecution are a little off; Thomas de Torquemada, the man responsible for the Spanish inquisition (bet you didn't expect that) was an ascetic, and was a contemporary of Leonardo.
There may be different ideas about what exactly an ascetic was, but certainly St Francis of Assisi must be considered one, the guy walked barefoot everywhere, and he was certainly accepted by the catholic church.
It may be hard for someone who hasn't been involved in religion to understand, but not all of these persecutions were about power or control.
If you've never seen how worked up people can get about certain doctrinal ideas, it can be hard to believe these people are sincere.
But remember it's not just a matter of life or death, it's a matter of eternal salvation.
It is something people are willing to die for.
My favorite example of this is a puritan John Williams (despite their reputation puritans were a feisty group: remember these were people who basically said 'fuck you' to the king).
He thought that anyone who supported the church of England was 'contaminated,' and refused to worship with them.
He later decided that those who worshiped with those who were contaminated were also contaminated, eventually coming to the conclusion that only him and his wife were not contaminated, and then discounting her as well.
Finally he decided maybe he was too strict in his principles and reversed them (and lost a lot of respect: Puritans respected those who stood up for their principles to death; they were all willing to do so, after all).
It's crazy but it shows the length people are willing to go to for their sincerely held beliefs.
Although pre-industrial Europe had a lot of power hungry people, it also had a lot of sincere believers.
It is impossible to understand European history accurately if you just look at them all as power hungry.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588116</id>
	<title>Seriously</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269376080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish I could sit around all day and do bullshit studies like this. Thank you sir, for providing absolutely not benefit to society.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish I could sit around all day and do bullshit studies like this .
Thank you sir , for providing absolutely not benefit to society .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish I could sit around all day and do bullshit studies like this.
Thank you sir, for providing absolutely not benefit to society.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31601100</id>
	<title>The Real Truth is that Jesus was Sasquatch-Sized</title>
	<author>HappyDude742</author>
	<datestamp>1269458520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And his feet were the size of halibut.

Or so the guy at <a href="http://gotmedieval.blogspot.com/2010/03/whats-all-this-about-super-sized-last.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Got Medieval</a> [blogspot.com] says.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And his feet were the size of halibut .
Or so the guy at Got Medieval [ blogspot.com ] says .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And his feet were the size of halibut.
Or so the guy at Got Medieval [blogspot.com] says.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31587092</id>
	<title>Re:idiotic</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1269371880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>AC wins.  I see painters modernizing the scenes because their own standard of living improves.  Especially as they moved into the Reubenesque period, where fatness was attractive because it meant you could afford food without having to work 16 hour days growing it.  They would have lacked insight such as it being a Passover Sedar, and instead made it a normal meal for the time.</p><p>I assume the intent is to show that people got fatter throughout time, especially since it was published in International Journal of Obesity.  But it actually demonstrates advances in agriculture and availability of food.</p><p>Compare New York University nutrition researcher Lisa R. Young:</p><blockquote><div><p>There is scant evidence that the body mass index of people in developed societies soared into unhealthy ranges for most of the 1,000 years studied, Young said.</p></div></blockquote><p>with Brian Wansink, director of the Cornell University Food and Brand Lab and author of "Mindless Eating: Why We Eat More Than We Think.":</p><blockquote><div><p>Instead, they suggest, it's a natural consequence of "dramatic socio-historic increases in the production, availability, safety, abundance and affordability of food" over the millennium that started in the year 1000 A.D.</p><p>"The contemporary discovery of increasing food portions and availability may be little more than 1,000-year-old wine in a new bottle," the Wansinks wrote.</p></div></blockquote><p>This is book publicity, only book publicity, and very bad book publicity at that.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>AC wins .
I see painters modernizing the scenes because their own standard of living improves .
Especially as they moved into the Reubenesque period , where fatness was attractive because it meant you could afford food without having to work 16 hour days growing it .
They would have lacked insight such as it being a Passover Sedar , and instead made it a normal meal for the time.I assume the intent is to show that people got fatter throughout time , especially since it was published in International Journal of Obesity .
But it actually demonstrates advances in agriculture and availability of food.Compare New York University nutrition researcher Lisa R. Young : There is scant evidence that the body mass index of people in developed societies soared into unhealthy ranges for most of the 1,000 years studied , Young said.with Brian Wansink , director of the Cornell University Food and Brand Lab and author of " Mindless Eating : Why We Eat More Than We Think .
" : Instead , they suggest , it 's a natural consequence of " dramatic socio-historic increases in the production , availability , safety , abundance and affordability of food " over the millennium that started in the year 1000 A.D. " The contemporary discovery of increasing food portions and availability may be little more than 1,000-year-old wine in a new bottle , " the Wansinks wrote.This is book publicity , only book publicity , and very bad book publicity at that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>AC wins.
I see painters modernizing the scenes because their own standard of living improves.
Especially as they moved into the Reubenesque period, where fatness was attractive because it meant you could afford food without having to work 16 hour days growing it.
They would have lacked insight such as it being a Passover Sedar, and instead made it a normal meal for the time.I assume the intent is to show that people got fatter throughout time, especially since it was published in International Journal of Obesity.
But it actually demonstrates advances in agriculture and availability of food.Compare New York University nutrition researcher Lisa R. Young:There is scant evidence that the body mass index of people in developed societies soared into unhealthy ranges for most of the 1,000 years studied, Young said.with Brian Wansink, director of the Cornell University Food and Brand Lab and author of "Mindless Eating: Why We Eat More Than We Think.
":Instead, they suggest, it's a natural consequence of "dramatic socio-historic increases in the production, availability, safety, abundance and affordability of food" over the millennium that started in the year 1000 A.D."The contemporary discovery of increasing food portions and availability may be little more than 1,000-year-old wine in a new bottle," the Wansinks wrote.This is book publicity, only book publicity, and very bad book publicity at that.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_23_1423213.31588498</id>
	<title>Entrees?</title>
	<author>Alioth</author>
	<datestamp>1269377940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A probably OT point on etymology - but why is it that in the USA that the main course is called the "entr&#233;e"? The first time I had dinner in the USA it had me momentarily confused because you'd expect the "entr&#233;e" to be the starter, not the main course (in French, the "entr&#233;e" is the starter).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A probably OT point on etymology - but why is it that in the USA that the main course is called the " entr   e " ?
The first time I had dinner in the USA it had me momentarily confused because you 'd expect the " entr   e " to be the starter , not the main course ( in French , the " entr   e " is the starter ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A probably OT point on etymology - but why is it that in the USA that the main course is called the "entrée"?
The first time I had dinner in the USA it had me momentarily confused because you'd expect the "entrée" to be the starter, not the main course (in French, the "entrée" is the starter).</sentencetext>
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	<title>Obligatory Monty Python</title>
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	<htmltext><i>...I wanted to give the impression of a real last supper. You know, not just any old last supper. Not like a last meal or a final snack. But you know, I wanted to give the impression of a real mother of a blow-out, you know?</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>...I wanted to give the impression of a real last supper .
You know , not just any old last supper .
Not like a last meal or a final snack .
But you know , I wanted to give the impression of a real mother of a blow-out , you know ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...I wanted to give the impression of a real last supper.
You know, not just any old last supper.
Not like a last meal or a final snack.
But you know, I wanted to give the impression of a real mother of a blow-out, you know?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Some historians are actually questioning Da Vici</title>
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	<htmltext><p>In his portrait the fries are all supersized, when many historians note that apostles were much more likely to order from the dollar menu.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In his portrait the fries are all supersized , when many historians note that apostles were much more likely to order from the dollar menu .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In his portrait the fries are all supersized, when many historians note that apostles were much more likely to order from the dollar menu.</sentencetext>
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