<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_21_0154259</id>
	<title>Server Room Smells Can Be an Early Warning</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1269162180000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Barence writes <i>"As embarrassing as it may seem, an eggy smell in a server room needn't mean broaching the delicate subject of hygiene with a colleague. It can actually be a signal that something is about to go wrong with your server setup, as this consultant discovered after days of assuming questionable personal habits were to blame. The culprit? An expiring UPS device, <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/03/19/whats-that-eggy-smell-in-the-server-room/">sending out its own unique warning signal</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Barence writes " As embarrassing as it may seem , an eggy smell in a server room need n't mean broaching the delicate subject of hygiene with a colleague .
It can actually be a signal that something is about to go wrong with your server setup , as this consultant discovered after days of assuming questionable personal habits were to blame .
The culprit ?
An expiring UPS device , sending out its own unique warning signal .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Barence writes "As embarrassing as it may seem, an eggy smell in a server room needn't mean broaching the delicate subject of hygiene with a colleague.
It can actually be a signal that something is about to go wrong with your server setup, as this consultant discovered after days of assuming questionable personal habits were to blame.
The culprit?
An expiring UPS device, sending out its own unique warning signal.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31559802</id>
	<title>Close!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269163560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nearly there, but all the symptoms and the reactions you are describing is the result of Hydrogen Sulphide exposure and not Suplhur Dioxide.</p><p>It becomes stinky at around 5-10ppm.<br>It becomes highly irritant to the repository system at around 20ppm<br>It paralyses your sense of smell at 30ppm. At this point you have about 5 min or so to get the hell out before you pass out.<br>It becomes lethal (death, and not simply passing out) at around 100ppm.</p><p>To those wondering how you're supposed to smell it above 30ppm, if a sudden whaft of pungent smell so potent it nearly knocks you off your feet suddenly disappears, then get the hell out.<br>Think of it as if a million geeks farted in unison, and then nothing.</p><p>You could also just buy a H2S detector. I wear a Dragger H2S detector around work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nearly there , but all the symptoms and the reactions you are describing is the result of Hydrogen Sulphide exposure and not Suplhur Dioxide.It becomes stinky at around 5-10ppm.It becomes highly irritant to the repository system at around 20ppmIt paralyses your sense of smell at 30ppm .
At this point you have about 5 min or so to get the hell out before you pass out.It becomes lethal ( death , and not simply passing out ) at around 100ppm.To those wondering how you 're supposed to smell it above 30ppm , if a sudden whaft of pungent smell so potent it nearly knocks you off your feet suddenly disappears , then get the hell out.Think of it as if a million geeks farted in unison , and then nothing.You could also just buy a H2S detector .
I wear a Dragger H2S detector around work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nearly there, but all the symptoms and the reactions you are describing is the result of Hydrogen Sulphide exposure and not Suplhur Dioxide.It becomes stinky at around 5-10ppm.It becomes highly irritant to the repository system at around 20ppmIt paralyses your sense of smell at 30ppm.
At this point you have about 5 min or so to get the hell out before you pass out.It becomes lethal (death, and not simply passing out) at around 100ppm.To those wondering how you're supposed to smell it above 30ppm, if a sudden whaft of pungent smell so potent it nearly knocks you off your feet suddenly disappears, then get the hell out.Think of it as if a million geeks farted in unison, and then nothing.You could also just buy a H2S detector.
I wear a Dragger H2S detector around work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31560904</id>
	<title>Re:Funny, I routinely smell my servers...</title>
	<author>ls671</author>
	<datestamp>1269170880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; you should be using every sense except taste and<br>&gt; direct tactile feel</p><p>I know a car mechanic who likes to taste a car motor oil. He pretends he can tell if something is wrong with the engine that way.</p><p>My guess is that he does it only to freak people out when they look at him tasting oil but who knows ?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; you should be using every sense except taste and &gt; direct tactile feelI know a car mechanic who likes to taste a car motor oil .
He pretends he can tell if something is wrong with the engine that way.My guess is that he does it only to freak people out when they look at him tasting oil but who knows ?
; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; you should be using every sense except taste and&gt; direct tactile feelI know a car mechanic who likes to taste a car motor oil.
He pretends he can tell if something is wrong with the engine that way.My guess is that he does it only to freak people out when they look at him tasting oil but who knows ?
;-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556458</id>
	<title>APC UPS's</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269172800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>APC UPS's have a tendency to cook their batteries as they get near the end of their lifetime.  The results can be horrifying...  bulging batteries, and if allowed to go on long enough, yes, even "sealed" lead acid batteries will rupture and you'll get the lovely sulfur smell.
<br>
I recently pulled these APC batteries out of an APC Smart-UPS 1400, which had to be disassembled (including the removal/replacement of rivets) in order to get the batteries out.
<br>
<a href="http://img221.imageshack.us/i/imageyv.jpg/" title="imageshack.us">http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/171/imageyv.jpg</a> [imageshack.us]</htmltext>
<tokenext>APC UPS 's have a tendency to cook their batteries as they get near the end of their lifetime .
The results can be horrifying... bulging batteries , and if allowed to go on long enough , yes , even " sealed " lead acid batteries will rupture and you 'll get the lovely sulfur smell .
I recently pulled these APC batteries out of an APC Smart-UPS 1400 , which had to be disassembled ( including the removal/replacement of rivets ) in order to get the batteries out .
http : //img221.imageshack.us/img221/171/imageyv.jpg [ imageshack.us ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>APC UPS's have a tendency to cook their batteries as they get near the end of their lifetime.
The results can be horrifying...  bulging batteries, and if allowed to go on long enough, yes, even "sealed" lead acid batteries will rupture and you'll get the lovely sulfur smell.
I recently pulled these APC batteries out of an APC Smart-UPS 1400, which had to be disassembled (including the removal/replacement of rivets) in order to get the batteries out.
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/171/imageyv.jpg [imageshack.us]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556688</id>
	<title>Re:This is interesting, can this happen?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269176520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A triggered fire suppression system should trip the A/C interlock, shutting down ventilation and outside air (blowing air is stupid when FM-100 or whatever is used).</p><p>Normally, however, air may well be circulated in a fairly tight closed loop.  You do not want to inject outside air without a lot of treatment; filtering and humidity are very large concerns.  Drawing in extremely moist, hot air from outside and bringing it into your air supply may well be a lot more challenging than simply recycling the existing clean warm air that already has a roughly correct humidity, for example, and then what happens when it's winter and suddenly the outside air is cold and super-dry?  You suddenly have a different HVAC challenge.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A triggered fire suppression system should trip the A/C interlock , shutting down ventilation and outside air ( blowing air is stupid when FM-100 or whatever is used ) .Normally , however , air may well be circulated in a fairly tight closed loop .
You do not want to inject outside air without a lot of treatment ; filtering and humidity are very large concerns .
Drawing in extremely moist , hot air from outside and bringing it into your air supply may well be a lot more challenging than simply recycling the existing clean warm air that already has a roughly correct humidity , for example , and then what happens when it 's winter and suddenly the outside air is cold and super-dry ?
You suddenly have a different HVAC challenge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A triggered fire suppression system should trip the A/C interlock, shutting down ventilation and outside air (blowing air is stupid when FM-100 or whatever is used).Normally, however, air may well be circulated in a fairly tight closed loop.
You do not want to inject outside air without a lot of treatment; filtering and humidity are very large concerns.
Drawing in extremely moist, hot air from outside and bringing it into your air supply may well be a lot more challenging than simply recycling the existing clean warm air that already has a roughly correct humidity, for example, and then what happens when it's winter and suddenly the outside air is cold and super-dry?
You suddenly have a different HVAC challenge.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556042</id>
	<title>Ooooga Booooga oh S#!t</title>
	<author>voodoo cheesecake</author>
	<datestamp>1269166260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sulfur Dioxide. Ventilate, replace or recondition battery. If the egg smell is strong and you quit smelling it, that's olifactory fatigue and lethal levels of the gas exist.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sulfur Dioxide .
Ventilate , replace or recondition battery .
If the egg smell is strong and you quit smelling it , that 's olifactory fatigue and lethal levels of the gas exist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sulfur Dioxide.
Ventilate, replace or recondition battery.
If the egg smell is strong and you quit smelling it, that's olifactory fatigue and lethal levels of the gas exist.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556022</id>
	<title>UPS UPS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269166020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unique Pheromone Signals?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unique Pheromone Signals ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unique Pheromone Signals?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31562520</id>
	<title>I think you are using the WRONG UPS'es</title>
	<author>cprice</author>
	<datestamp>1269183000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>'Smart' UPS'es from various vendors properly attached to a server or network SNMP trap will tell you when its batteries are going bad (opr the telltale signs of the same). I think you guys need to step up from the $99 Costco UPS'es into something a little more reliable. Home consumer grade electronics have NO place in a commercial environment really (they can be pressed into service in a pinch).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>'Smart ' UPS'es from various vendors properly attached to a server or network SNMP trap will tell you when its batteries are going bad ( opr the telltale signs of the same ) .
I think you guys need to step up from the $ 99 Costco UPS'es into something a little more reliable .
Home consumer grade electronics have NO place in a commercial environment really ( they can be pressed into service in a pinch ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'Smart' UPS'es from various vendors properly attached to a server or network SNMP trap will tell you when its batteries are going bad (opr the telltale signs of the same).
I think you guys need to step up from the $99 Costco UPS'es into something a little more reliable.
Home consumer grade electronics have NO place in a commercial environment really (they can be pressed into service in a pinch).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557690</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556196</id>
	<title>Should be on the discovery channel</title>
	<author>lucm</author>
	<datestamp>1269168780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; As the season has changed, for the first time in something like five months, I've opened a window in the server room I've been working in.</p><p>Then the smell was gone, but there was this loud beeping sound. After doing another Google search I found out from a security consultant's blog that it was the break-in alarm on the window.</p><p>Another crazy day at the office.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; As the season has changed , for the first time in something like five months , I 've opened a window in the server room I 've been working in.Then the smell was gone , but there was this loud beeping sound .
After doing another Google search I found out from a security consultant 's blog that it was the break-in alarm on the window.Another crazy day at the office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; As the season has changed, for the first time in something like five months, I've opened a window in the server room I've been working in.Then the smell was gone, but there was this loud beeping sound.
After doing another Google search I found out from a security consultant's blog that it was the break-in alarm on the window.Another crazy day at the office.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556012</id>
	<title>Does...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269165960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>something smell fishy in here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>something smell fishy in here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>something smell fishy in here?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556462</id>
	<title>Computers run on smoke</title>
	<author>jgreco</author>
	<datestamp>1269172860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Computers run on smoke...  when the smoke comes out, they stop running.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Computers run on smoke... when the smoke comes out , they stop running .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computers run on smoke...  when the smoke comes out, they stop running.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31559648</id>
	<title>Nagios status</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1269162600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><tt><br>Service     Status    Last Check           Duration     Attempt    Status Information<br>UPS1          OK      03-21-2010 13:01:44  2d 1h 3s       1/3<br>UPS2          OK      03-21-2010 13:01:44  5d 4h 1s       1/3      Hey it wasn't ME<br>UPS3          OK      03-21-2010 13:01:44  2d 1h 3s       1/3<br>UPS4         Gassy    03-21-2010 13:01:44  5d 4h 1s       1/3<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)<br></tt></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Service Status Last Check Duration Attempt Status InformationUPS1 OK 03-21-2010 13 : 01 : 44 2d 1h 3s 1/3UPS2 OK 03-21-2010 13 : 01 : 44 5d 4h 1s 1/3 Hey it was n't MEUPS3 OK 03-21-2010 13 : 01 : 44 2d 1h 3s 1/3UPS4 Gassy 03-21-2010 13 : 01 : 44 5d 4h 1s 1/3 ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Service     Status    Last Check           Duration     Attempt    Status InformationUPS1          OK      03-21-2010 13:01:44  2d 1h 3s       1/3UPS2          OK      03-21-2010 13:01:44  5d 4h 1s       1/3      Hey it wasn't MEUPS3          OK      03-21-2010 13:01:44  2d 1h 3s       1/3UPS4         Gassy    03-21-2010 13:01:44  5d 4h 1s       1/3 ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556236</id>
	<title>Smoke in a server room *can* alse be a warning</title>
	<author>GuyFawkes</author>
	<datestamp>1269169320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>of things about to go wrong in a big way...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>of things about to go wrong in a big way.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>of things about to go wrong in a big way...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556162</id>
	<title>Waffles</title>
	<author>kidsizedcoffin</author>
	<datestamp>1269168240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I remember some old AMD slot style CPU's would smell like waffles when they burned out.  Good times.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember some old AMD slot style CPU 's would smell like waffles when they burned out .
Good times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember some old AMD slot style CPU's would smell like waffles when they burned out.
Good times.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556308</id>
	<title>This is interesting, can this happen?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269170220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've never physically been inside a data center, but I'd have thought that the locales would have really good ventilation, that would simply shut close (or rely on gas weight and gravity) if the halon system or equivalent would need turning on. The ventilation is in fact so bad, there can be a gas buildup so severe you need to (according to posters above me) go in with hazmat gear?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never physically been inside a data center , but I 'd have thought that the locales would have really good ventilation , that would simply shut close ( or rely on gas weight and gravity ) if the halon system or equivalent would need turning on .
The ventilation is in fact so bad , there can be a gas buildup so severe you need to ( according to posters above me ) go in with hazmat gear ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never physically been inside a data center, but I'd have thought that the locales would have really good ventilation, that would simply shut close (or rely on gas weight and gravity) if the halon system or equivalent would need turning on.
The ventilation is in fact so bad, there can be a gas buildup so severe you need to (according to posters above me) go in with hazmat gear?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557738</id>
	<title>Re:Funny, I routinely smell my servers...</title>
	<author>X0563511</author>
	<datestamp>1269188220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Far too many people rely on performance metrics and alarms. You're one of the ones who actually pays some attention<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p><p>Any time you enter the DC you should take stock:</p><p>1. What do you hear? Perhaps an alarm through all the server noise? Unusually loud fans/ACUs? Anything unusually quiet? Other noises? (I 'predicted' an ACU failure because I heard the fan belt rubbing on something lightly shizz-shizz-shizz-shizz-shizz...)<br>2. What do you smell? This article basically points this out. Could be leaking ACU coolant. Batteries dying. Burning server. Overloaded circuit, etc.<br>3. What do you see? Yea, stupid I know but - does that corner of the room appear slightly dimmer? Better go check it out, a rack might be down and you haven't noticed yet.<br>4. What do you feel? Vibrations through the floor? Could be an ACU about to pop a fan belt or blow a compressor.<br>5. What do you feel further? Unusually dry or humid air? Temperatures etc.</p><p>In short, you should be using every sense except taste and direct tactile feel. Anything shorter and you just aren't paying full attention.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Far too many people rely on performance metrics and alarms .
You 're one of the ones who actually pays some attention : PAny time you enter the DC you should take stock : 1 .
What do you hear ?
Perhaps an alarm through all the server noise ?
Unusually loud fans/ACUs ?
Anything unusually quiet ?
Other noises ?
( I 'predicted ' an ACU failure because I heard the fan belt rubbing on something lightly shizz-shizz-shizz-shizz-shizz... ) 2 .
What do you smell ?
This article basically points this out .
Could be leaking ACU coolant .
Batteries dying .
Burning server .
Overloaded circuit , etc.3 .
What do you see ?
Yea , stupid I know but - does that corner of the room appear slightly dimmer ?
Better go check it out , a rack might be down and you have n't noticed yet.4 .
What do you feel ?
Vibrations through the floor ?
Could be an ACU about to pop a fan belt or blow a compressor.5 .
What do you feel further ?
Unusually dry or humid air ?
Temperatures etc.In short , you should be using every sense except taste and direct tactile feel .
Anything shorter and you just are n't paying full attention .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Far too many people rely on performance metrics and alarms.
You're one of the ones who actually pays some attention :PAny time you enter the DC you should take stock:1.
What do you hear?
Perhaps an alarm through all the server noise?
Unusually loud fans/ACUs?
Anything unusually quiet?
Other noises?
(I 'predicted' an ACU failure because I heard the fan belt rubbing on something lightly shizz-shizz-shizz-shizz-shizz...)2.
What do you smell?
This article basically points this out.
Could be leaking ACU coolant.
Batteries dying.
Burning server.
Overloaded circuit, etc.3.
What do you see?
Yea, stupid I know but - does that corner of the room appear slightly dimmer?
Better go check it out, a rack might be down and you haven't noticed yet.4.
What do you feel?
Vibrations through the floor?
Could be an ACU about to pop a fan belt or blow a compressor.5.
What do you feel further?
Unusually dry or humid air?
Temperatures etc.In short, you should be using every sense except taste and direct tactile feel.
Anything shorter and you just aren't paying full attention.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557372</id>
	<title>Shhh</title>
	<author>gadzook33</author>
	<datestamp>1269184920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Listen...do you smell something?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Listen...do you smell something ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Listen...do you smell something?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556040</id>
	<title>But....</title>
	<author>santax</author>
	<datestamp>1269166200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does this mean I can use my father-in-law as a UPS?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does this mean I can use my father-in-law as a UPS ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does this mean I can use my father-in-law as a UPS?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557102</id>
	<title>Re:Who's minding the servers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269181920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1. Windows in the server room?<br>
2. No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on?</p></div><p>
Those were my two main thoughts about TFA, exactly.
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Windows in the server room ?
2. No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on ?
Those were my two main thoughts about TFA , exactly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Windows in the server room?
2. No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on?
Those were my two main thoughts about TFA, exactly.

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556124</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31560518</id>
	<title>Re:Who's minding the servers?</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1269168300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Windows in the server room is a HUGE security risk, and generally a big no-no. You need to have proper ventilation and cooling, but usually the server room is windowless and in the middle of the building, not on the outside walls. What is the point of having "secure" server room if all someone needs to do is break a window to get in?</p></div><p>0) Windows on the Nth floor aren't a security risk, with a high enough N.</p><p>1) Perhaps they have an old building which has windows in every room. The server room where I work is in a building possibly older than your country (I can't find the exact date, it's close).</p><p>2) Perhaps there isn't an information security issue. There are bars on the windows in the aforementioned server room, but all the interesting data on the servers is available on the web (or on DVD if you ask nicely), so the security is only to avoid the disruption a theft would cause.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Windows in the server room is a HUGE security risk , and generally a big no-no .
You need to have proper ventilation and cooling , but usually the server room is windowless and in the middle of the building , not on the outside walls .
What is the point of having " secure " server room if all someone needs to do is break a window to get in ? 0 ) Windows on the Nth floor are n't a security risk , with a high enough N.1 ) Perhaps they have an old building which has windows in every room .
The server room where I work is in a building possibly older than your country ( I ca n't find the exact date , it 's close ) .2 ) Perhaps there is n't an information security issue .
There are bars on the windows in the aforementioned server room , but all the interesting data on the servers is available on the web ( or on DVD if you ask nicely ) , so the security is only to avoid the disruption a theft would cause .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows in the server room is a HUGE security risk, and generally a big no-no.
You need to have proper ventilation and cooling, but usually the server room is windowless and in the middle of the building, not on the outside walls.
What is the point of having "secure" server room if all someone needs to do is break a window to get in?0) Windows on the Nth floor aren't a security risk, with a high enough N.1) Perhaps they have an old building which has windows in every room.
The server room where I work is in a building possibly older than your country (I can't find the exact date, it's close).2) Perhaps there isn't an information security issue.
There are bars on the windows in the aforementioned server room, but all the interesting data on the servers is available on the web (or on DVD if you ask nicely), so the security is only to avoid the disruption a theft would cause.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31559734</id>
	<title>Re:Can be?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269163200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This might be the all-time stupidest article on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.    Really?!  REALLY??!?!    No fucking shit Sherlock!!</p><p>If the server room smells like sulfur you MIGHT have a problem with the UPS (or Lucifer)</p><p>If the server room smells like burning electronics you MIGHT have a problem......</p><p>If the server room smells like smoke you MIGHT have a problem......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This might be the all-time stupidest article on / .
Really ? ! REALLY ? ? ! ? !
No fucking shit Sherlock !
! If the server room smells like sulfur you MIGHT have a problem with the UPS ( or Lucifer ) If the server room smells like burning electronics you MIGHT have a problem......If the server room smells like smoke you MIGHT have a problem..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This might be the all-time stupidest article on /.
Really?!  REALLY??!?!
No fucking shit Sherlock!
!If the server room smells like sulfur you MIGHT have a problem with the UPS (or Lucifer)If the server room smells like burning electronics you MIGHT have a problem......If the server room smells like smoke you MIGHT have a problem......</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556184</id>
	<title>Can be?</title>
	<author>bertok</author>
	<datestamp>1269168600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Can be an early warning?"</p><p>"<b>CAN</b> be?"</p><p>Like all IT administrators who've actually worked with server hardware, I have a heightened sense of smell, but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic. It's not a mere <i>warning</i>, it's an instant alarm that'll have every IT person in the room sniffing the power supplies.</p><p>We IT people, we're like bloodhounds or something. I can smell burned plastic from across the street. I've been set off by welders at a car mechanic a block away. I've been set off by an invisibly tiny bit of cheese someone dropped into a toaster oven once... three floors down from the server room. Had me in a right panic.</p><p>IT is all fun and games until the servers literally melt into slag. There's no repair CD for that -- and we all know that the backup tapes, while wonderful for backing up, aren't so good at the actual restoring bit. That's why they're called <i>backup</i> tapes, not <i>restore</i> tapes, see?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Can be an early warning ?
" " CAN be ?
" Like all IT administrators who 've actually worked with server hardware , I have a heightened sense of smell , but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic .
It 's not a mere warning , it 's an instant alarm that 'll have every IT person in the room sniffing the power supplies.We IT people , we 're like bloodhounds or something .
I can smell burned plastic from across the street .
I 've been set off by welders at a car mechanic a block away .
I 've been set off by an invisibly tiny bit of cheese someone dropped into a toaster oven once... three floors down from the server room .
Had me in a right panic.IT is all fun and games until the servers literally melt into slag .
There 's no repair CD for that -- and we all know that the backup tapes , while wonderful for backing up , are n't so good at the actual restoring bit .
That 's why they 're called backup tapes , not restore tapes , see ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Can be an early warning?
""CAN be?
"Like all IT administrators who've actually worked with server hardware, I have a heightened sense of smell, but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic.
It's not a mere warning, it's an instant alarm that'll have every IT person in the room sniffing the power supplies.We IT people, we're like bloodhounds or something.
I can smell burned plastic from across the street.
I've been set off by welders at a car mechanic a block away.
I've been set off by an invisibly tiny bit of cheese someone dropped into a toaster oven once... three floors down from the server room.
Had me in a right panic.IT is all fun and games until the servers literally melt into slag.
There's no repair CD for that -- and we all know that the backup tapes, while wonderful for backing up, aren't so good at the actual restoring bit.
That's why they're called backup tapes, not restore tapes, see?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31558528</id>
	<title>Old HDDs smell like B.O.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269196200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone else notice that old HDDs smell strongly of body odor?  It's like bacteria love the warmth and go through X generations until there's a constant "eww" smell to them.  It seems to happen more with 10-15k RPM SCSI drives in 1U servers where they don't get as much ventilation, but I've noticed it with IDE and SATA in desktops too.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone else notice that old HDDs smell strongly of body odor ?
It 's like bacteria love the warmth and go through X generations until there 's a constant " eww " smell to them .
It seems to happen more with 10-15k RPM SCSI drives in 1U servers where they do n't get as much ventilation , but I 've noticed it with IDE and SATA in desktops too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone else notice that old HDDs smell strongly of body odor?
It's like bacteria love the warmth and go through X generations until there's a constant "eww" smell to them.
It seems to happen more with 10-15k RPM SCSI drives in 1U servers where they don't get as much ventilation, but I've noticed it with IDE and SATA in desktops too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31561492</id>
	<title>Re:In My Research Lab</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1269175680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you don't have UPSs then any power failure means all servers lose power. Afaict standby generators can't kick in quick enough</p><p>If you do have UPSs then when one fails at worst it takes out the power to connected devices. Which is worse, a few servers losing power every so often or all your servers losing power at once?</p><p>Pluss really important servers should have redundant power supplies connected to supplies from different UPSs so even if a UPS goes down the server keeps going.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't have UPSs then any power failure means all servers lose power .
Afaict standby generators ca n't kick in quick enoughIf you do have UPSs then when one fails at worst it takes out the power to connected devices .
Which is worse , a few servers losing power every so often or all your servers losing power at once ? Pluss really important servers should have redundant power supplies connected to supplies from different UPSs so even if a UPS goes down the server keeps going .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't have UPSs then any power failure means all servers lose power.
Afaict standby generators can't kick in quick enoughIf you do have UPSs then when one fails at worst it takes out the power to connected devices.
Which is worse, a few servers losing power every so often or all your servers losing power at once?Pluss really important servers should have redundant power supplies connected to supplies from different UPSs so even if a UPS goes down the server keeps going.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556582</id>
	<title>If they're like some IT departments I've seen...</title>
	<author>Moraelin</author>
	<datestamp>1269174900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they're like some of the IT departments I've seen, they might be working by some rule from upper management that they need to justify their existence by writing internal invoices for everything they do. It tends to result in them doing nothing until you tell them to, so they can bill you for it. The UPS could have not only the error lights on, but a binking "RED ALLERT" sign and the accompanying acoustic blare, and verily be on fire and billowing smoke, and nobody would touch it until you fill the proper form requesting them to put it out.</p><p>Because, yes, that's another thing I've noticed that a lot of departments love, IT including: inventing bureaucracy and paperwork to discourage and delay actually having anything to do. You may need to fill in a 5 page form and draw powerpoint diagrams as to why you want the UPS doused and what are the architecture implications of that. And if you're unlucky a few meetings too, to convince some Mordac The Information Services Preventer why he should move his ass and turn that UPS off, and why his suggested workarounds (in which he'd not have to do anything) aren't quite solving the problem.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they 're like some of the IT departments I 've seen , they might be working by some rule from upper management that they need to justify their existence by writing internal invoices for everything they do .
It tends to result in them doing nothing until you tell them to , so they can bill you for it .
The UPS could have not only the error lights on , but a binking " RED ALLERT " sign and the accompanying acoustic blare , and verily be on fire and billowing smoke , and nobody would touch it until you fill the proper form requesting them to put it out.Because , yes , that 's another thing I 've noticed that a lot of departments love , IT including : inventing bureaucracy and paperwork to discourage and delay actually having anything to do .
You may need to fill in a 5 page form and draw powerpoint diagrams as to why you want the UPS doused and what are the architecture implications of that .
And if you 're unlucky a few meetings too , to convince some Mordac The Information Services Preventer why he should move his ass and turn that UPS off , and why his suggested workarounds ( in which he 'd not have to do anything ) are n't quite solving the problem .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they're like some of the IT departments I've seen, they might be working by some rule from upper management that they need to justify their existence by writing internal invoices for everything they do.
It tends to result in them doing nothing until you tell them to, so they can bill you for it.
The UPS could have not only the error lights on, but a binking "RED ALLERT" sign and the accompanying acoustic blare, and verily be on fire and billowing smoke, and nobody would touch it until you fill the proper form requesting them to put it out.Because, yes, that's another thing I've noticed that a lot of departments love, IT including: inventing bureaucracy and paperwork to discourage and delay actually having anything to do.
You may need to fill in a 5 page form and draw powerpoint diagrams as to why you want the UPS doused and what are the architecture implications of that.
And if you're unlucky a few meetings too, to convince some Mordac The Information Services Preventer why he should move his ass and turn that UPS off, and why his suggested workarounds (in which he'd not have to do anything) aren't quite solving the problem.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556360</id>
	<title>The admin gene [BOFH]</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269171120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From the clasic BOFH<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>"The admin gene," the PFY explains. "The ability to recognise things that users don't. A slight flicker of lighting, a whiff of hot component in the air, a fractional change in the pitch of a cooling fan - all of which the garden variety user misses in the headlong rush to read their email."</p><p>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/04/bofh\_2008\_episode\_24/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From the clasic BOFH : ) " The admin gene , " the PFY explains .
" The ability to recognise things that users do n't .
A slight flicker of lighting , a whiff of hot component in the air , a fractional change in the pitch of a cooling fan - all of which the garden variety user misses in the headlong rush to read their email .
" http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/04/bofh \ _2008 \ _episode \ _24/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the clasic BOFH :)"The admin gene," the PFY explains.
"The ability to recognise things that users don't.
A slight flicker of lighting, a whiff of hot component in the air, a fractional change in the pitch of a cooling fan - all of which the garden variety user misses in the headlong rush to read their email.
"http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/04/bofh\_2008\_episode\_24/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556536</id>
	<title>Re:Can be?</title>
	<author>dreamchaser</author>
	<datestamp>1269174000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Amusing post, but if your backup tapes are not reliable to restore then you're doing it wrong.  I know you were being a bit tongue in cheek, and yes I've seen many cases where backup tapes were next to useless.  In each case one could trace that to user error on the part of an administrator, often the person who setup the backup.</p><p>Yes smell is an important warning tool in the data center.  This article isn't even really news, or at least shouldn't be to anyone with more than a little experience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Amusing post , but if your backup tapes are not reliable to restore then you 're doing it wrong .
I know you were being a bit tongue in cheek , and yes I 've seen many cases where backup tapes were next to useless .
In each case one could trace that to user error on the part of an administrator , often the person who setup the backup.Yes smell is an important warning tool in the data center .
This article is n't even really news , or at least should n't be to anyone with more than a little experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amusing post, but if your backup tapes are not reliable to restore then you're doing it wrong.
I know you were being a bit tongue in cheek, and yes I've seen many cases where backup tapes were next to useless.
In each case one could trace that to user error on the part of an administrator, often the person who setup the backup.Yes smell is an important warning tool in the data center.
This article isn't even really news, or at least shouldn't be to anyone with more than a little experience.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557818</id>
	<title>Re:Computers run on smoke</title>
	<author>Lueseiseki</author>
	<datestamp>1269189060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No wonder the newest version of NOSMOKE.EXE wasn't working for me.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:\</htmltext>
<tokenext>No wonder the newest version of NOSMOKE.EXE was n't working for me .
: \</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No wonder the newest version of NOSMOKE.EXE wasn't working for me.
:\</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556694</id>
	<title>water cooling</title>
	<author>bananaendian</author>
	<datestamp>1269176580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why I prefer to build my new server rooms with individually cooled racks - each rack having its own AC-circulation - as well as using centralized water cooling for its efficiency and reliability. Circulating all your cooling air around the server room is simply a bad idea. When you have 1 kilometer of rack space on a single building floor, one source of contaminant, be it chemical or metal particles, will get into all the enclosures in the hall and cost you everything. And BTW UPS maintenance is something that modern IT management, especially outsourced services, have forgotten. Any veteran admin knows you need to estimate the end-of-life for their electronics AND replace them BEFORE they fail - just like AC-filters - If allow those to fail, they will have already done some damage! There's no "RAID" for burning electronics or blocked cooling air!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why I prefer to build my new server rooms with individually cooled racks - each rack having its own AC-circulation - as well as using centralized water cooling for its efficiency and reliability .
Circulating all your cooling air around the server room is simply a bad idea .
When you have 1 kilometer of rack space on a single building floor , one source of contaminant , be it chemical or metal particles , will get into all the enclosures in the hall and cost you everything .
And BTW UPS maintenance is something that modern IT management , especially outsourced services , have forgotten .
Any veteran admin knows you need to estimate the end-of-life for their electronics AND replace them BEFORE they fail - just like AC-filters - If allow those to fail , they will have already done some damage !
There 's no " RAID " for burning electronics or blocked cooling air !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why I prefer to build my new server rooms with individually cooled racks - each rack having its own AC-circulation - as well as using centralized water cooling for its efficiency and reliability.
Circulating all your cooling air around the server room is simply a bad idea.
When you have 1 kilometer of rack space on a single building floor, one source of contaminant, be it chemical or metal particles, will get into all the enclosures in the hall and cost you everything.
And BTW UPS maintenance is something that modern IT management, especially outsourced services, have forgotten.
Any veteran admin knows you need to estimate the end-of-life for their electronics AND replace them BEFORE they fail - just like AC-filters - If allow those to fail, they will have already done some damage!
There's no "RAID" for burning electronics or blocked cooling air!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556526</id>
	<title>Re:APC UPS's</title>
	<author>Casharelle</author>
	<datestamp>1269173880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is why folks should be paying attention to any diagnostics they can pull off their UPS. Sealed VRLA Batteries usually last about 4-5 years and often you'll see a trend of either decreased voltage or increased internal resistance a few months prior to them failing.

Proper maintenance practices can help prevent this kind of problem (as with most things).</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why folks should be paying attention to any diagnostics they can pull off their UPS .
Sealed VRLA Batteries usually last about 4-5 years and often you 'll see a trend of either decreased voltage or increased internal resistance a few months prior to them failing .
Proper maintenance practices can help prevent this kind of problem ( as with most things ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why folks should be paying attention to any diagnostics they can pull off their UPS.
Sealed VRLA Batteries usually last about 4-5 years and often you'll see a trend of either decreased voltage or increased internal resistance a few months prior to them failing.
Proper maintenance practices can help prevent this kind of problem (as with most things).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557324</id>
	<title>Re:Can be?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269184260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I have a heightened sense of smell, but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic.[...] I've been set off by an invisibly tiny bit of cheese someone dropped into a toaster oven once...</p></div><p>Must have been American "cheese", the only kind you can't tell apart from the wrapper.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a heightened sense of smell , but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic. [ .. .
] I 've been set off by an invisibly tiny bit of cheese someone dropped into a toaster oven once...Must have been American " cheese " , the only kind you ca n't tell apart from the wrapper .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I have a heightened sense of smell, but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic.[...
] I've been set off by an invisibly tiny bit of cheese someone dropped into a toaster oven once...Must have been American "cheese", the only kind you can't tell apart from the wrapper.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556076</id>
	<title>Finally!</title>
	<author>Hwatzu</author>
	<datestamp>1269166860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An alternative to blaming the dog.  "Wasn't me, honey, it was the computer."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An alternative to blaming the dog .
" Was n't me , honey , it was the computer .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An alternative to blaming the dog.
"Wasn't me, honey, it was the computer.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557570</id>
	<title>Re:Oh my ... I thought it was just me !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269186780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you "suffer" from synaesthesia?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you " suffer " from synaesthesia ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you "suffer" from synaesthesia?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31560688</id>
	<title>Re:Can be?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269169560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Only douchey office sysadmins call themselves "IT people." The same type who run those laughable server rooms in their offices.</p><p>I've worked in datacetenters for over a decade. I'm a systems engineer, not an 'IT administrator'. You people lump us in with help desk and degrade our professional. Also stop coming to LISA, its not a free company paid vacation and you people never have anything to share or learn.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Only douchey office sysadmins call themselves " IT people .
" The same type who run those laughable server rooms in their offices.I 've worked in datacetenters for over a decade .
I 'm a systems engineer , not an 'IT administrator' .
You people lump us in with help desk and degrade our professional .
Also stop coming to LISA , its not a free company paid vacation and you people never have anything to share or learn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only douchey office sysadmins call themselves "IT people.
" The same type who run those laughable server rooms in their offices.I've worked in datacetenters for over a decade.
I'm a systems engineer, not an 'IT administrator'.
You people lump us in with help desk and degrade our professional.
Also stop coming to LISA, its not a free company paid vacation and you people never have anything to share or learn.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31563414</id>
	<title>Re:APC UPS's</title>
	<author>cthulhu11</author>
	<datestamp>1269190980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had the bulging twice in the 3U style, and recently the smell in a big way from a 1.5 year old battery set, which upon opening also showed bulging.  I've had it with the thing, dunno if I should replace it with one of the $180 BackUPS units, or go with a different brand.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had the bulging twice in the 3U style , and recently the smell in a big way from a 1.5 year old battery set , which upon opening also showed bulging .
I 've had it with the thing , dunno if I should replace it with one of the $ 180 BackUPS units , or go with a different brand .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had the bulging twice in the 3U style, and recently the smell in a big way from a 1.5 year old battery set, which upon opening also showed bulging.
I've had it with the thing, dunno if I should replace it with one of the $180 BackUPS units, or go with a different brand.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556304</id>
	<title>Re:Funny, I routinely smell my servers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269170160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uhhhmmm - it isn't just computers.  If I notice an odd smell when I walk through the plant, I investigate.  Our plant makes plastic products, and 2/3 of the time, the odd smell is just overheated plastic.  But, the other 1/3 finds a problem of one sort, or another.  Overheating oils are bad news, overheating capacitors are more bad news - actually, ANYTHING hot enough to give off an odor is bad news.  Three weeks ago, we had a machine that was kicking our asses - the mold wouldn't open either manually, or in automatic.  4 of us went over that machine from one end to the other, multiple times.  Ohmeters and voltmeters said that everything was just fine, believe it or not.  Finally, I caught a whiff of something funky, opened up a solenoid from which the odor seemed to be coming, and found that half of the windings were burnt and shorting.</p><p>The sense of smell is a valuable tool in troubleshooting and maintenance, unless you ignore it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uhhhmmm - it is n't just computers .
If I notice an odd smell when I walk through the plant , I investigate .
Our plant makes plastic products , and 2/3 of the time , the odd smell is just overheated plastic .
But , the other 1/3 finds a problem of one sort , or another .
Overheating oils are bad news , overheating capacitors are more bad news - actually , ANYTHING hot enough to give off an odor is bad news .
Three weeks ago , we had a machine that was kicking our asses - the mold would n't open either manually , or in automatic .
4 of us went over that machine from one end to the other , multiple times .
Ohmeters and voltmeters said that everything was just fine , believe it or not .
Finally , I caught a whiff of something funky , opened up a solenoid from which the odor seemed to be coming , and found that half of the windings were burnt and shorting.The sense of smell is a valuable tool in troubleshooting and maintenance , unless you ignore it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uhhhmmm - it isn't just computers.
If I notice an odd smell when I walk through the plant, I investigate.
Our plant makes plastic products, and 2/3 of the time, the odd smell is just overheated plastic.
But, the other 1/3 finds a problem of one sort, or another.
Overheating oils are bad news, overheating capacitors are more bad news - actually, ANYTHING hot enough to give off an odor is bad news.
Three weeks ago, we had a machine that was kicking our asses - the mold wouldn't open either manually, or in automatic.
4 of us went over that machine from one end to the other, multiple times.
Ohmeters and voltmeters said that everything was just fine, believe it or not.
Finally, I caught a whiff of something funky, opened up a solenoid from which the odor seemed to be coming, and found that half of the windings were burnt and shorting.The sense of smell is a valuable tool in troubleshooting and maintenance, unless you ignore it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31569362</id>
	<title>Re:APC UPS's</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269275340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you monitor the APC UPS's via a network management card, and enable a weekly self-test, you detect battery failures long before they swell or fail.  Nagios + APC mgmt cards + SNMP = reliable power.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you monitor the APC UPS 's via a network management card , and enable a weekly self-test , you detect battery failures long before they swell or fail .
Nagios + APC mgmt cards + SNMP = reliable power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you monitor the APC UPS's via a network management card, and enable a weekly self-test, you detect battery failures long before they swell or fail.
Nagios + APC mgmt cards + SNMP = reliable power.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31559560</id>
	<title>Re:Smoke in a server room *can* alse be a warning</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269205020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Smoke in a parliament building can also be a warning of things about to go wrong in a big way, but then you know that already, right, Guy Fawkes?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Smoke in a parliament building can also be a warning of things about to go wrong in a big way , but then you know that already , right , Guy Fawkes ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Smoke in a parliament building can also be a warning of things about to go wrong in a big way, but then you know that already, right, Guy Fawkes?
:)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31559704</id>
	<title>That Peterlin Smell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269162960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If your server room stinks, likely Ed Peterlin is sleeping in there.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If your server room stinks , likely Ed Peterlin is sleeping in there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your server room stinks, likely Ed Peterlin is sleeping in there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556250</id>
	<title>In other news...</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1269169560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Server Room Smoke can be an Early warning, also.
</p><p>
As embarrasing as it may seem, a cloud of smoke in the server room needn't mean broaching the delicate subject of kicking the marijuana habit with a colleague.  It can actually be a signal that something is about to go wrong with your server setup.
</p><p>
 as this consultant discovered after days of assuming questionable personal habits were to blame. The culprit? A server whose board was in the process of being about to friggin explode!
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Server Room Smoke can be an Early warning , also .
As embarrasing as it may seem , a cloud of smoke in the server room need n't mean broaching the delicate subject of kicking the marijuana habit with a colleague .
It can actually be a signal that something is about to go wrong with your server setup .
as this consultant discovered after days of assuming questionable personal habits were to blame .
The culprit ?
A server whose board was in the process of being about to friggin explode !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Server Room Smoke can be an Early warning, also.
As embarrasing as it may seem, a cloud of smoke in the server room needn't mean broaching the delicate subject of kicking the marijuana habit with a colleague.
It can actually be a signal that something is about to go wrong with your server setup.
as this consultant discovered after days of assuming questionable personal habits were to blame.
The culprit?
A server whose board was in the process of being about to friggin explode!
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557690</id>
	<title>In My Research Lab</title>
	<author>dawilcox</author>
	<datestamp>1269187740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We've recently had two UPSs expire in the last couple of months. We were talking about it and we have a UPS fail more often than we have a power outage. If the UPS fails more often than a power outage, why do we even use UPSs?</htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've recently had two UPSs expire in the last couple of months .
We were talking about it and we have a UPS fail more often than we have a power outage .
If the UPS fails more often than a power outage , why do we even use UPSs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've recently had two UPSs expire in the last couple of months.
We were talking about it and we have a UPS fail more often than we have a power outage.
If the UPS fails more often than a power outage, why do we even use UPSs?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556008</id>
	<title>Riiiiiiiiight</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269165900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Amazing how many dying UPS devices must be hidden in my boss's office.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Amazing how many dying UPS devices must be hidden in my boss 's office .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Amazing how many dying UPS devices must be hidden in my boss's office.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556354</id>
	<title>Re:Smoke in a server room *can* alse be a warning</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1269171060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the smell of capacitor in the morning, but if I smell the interior of an LED then I am out of there.</p><p>I once blew the belly out of a 7413 by running it on 10V. I probably shouldn't have inhaled in that room after that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the smell of capacitor in the morning , but if I smell the interior of an LED then I am out of there.I once blew the belly out of a 7413 by running it on 10V .
I probably should n't have inhaled in that room after that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the smell of capacitor in the morning, but if I smell the interior of an LED then I am out of there.I once blew the belly out of a 7413 by running it on 10V.
I probably shouldn't have inhaled in that room after that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556620</id>
	<title>Re:Can be?</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1269175680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Like all IT administrators who've actually worked with server hardware, I have a heightened sense of smell, but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic. It's not a mere <i>warning</i>, it's an instant alarm that'll have every IT person in the room sniffing the power supplies.</p></div><p>Great!  Now all we need is a way to turn that mutation into some kind of reproductive advantage.  Or maybe we should segregate sever admins into a separate breeding population, and after a few dozen generations we'll have a new subspecies: H. sapiens resinanasus.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like all IT administrators who 've actually worked with server hardware , I have a heightened sense of smell , but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic .
It 's not a mere warning , it 's an instant alarm that 'll have every IT person in the room sniffing the power supplies.Great !
Now all we need is a way to turn that mutation into some kind of reproductive advantage .
Or maybe we should segregate sever admins into a separate breeding population , and after a few dozen generations we 'll have a new subspecies : H. sapiens resinanasus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like all IT administrators who've actually worked with server hardware, I have a heightened sense of smell, but only specifically for the smell of burning plastic.
It's not a mere warning, it's an instant alarm that'll have every IT person in the room sniffing the power supplies.Great!
Now all we need is a way to turn that mutation into some kind of reproductive advantage.
Or maybe we should segregate sever admins into a separate breeding population, and after a few dozen generations we'll have a new subspecies: H. sapiens resinanasus.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556368</id>
	<title>Oh my ... I thought it was just me !</title>
	<author>niks42</author>
	<datestamp>1269171240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, yes! You can smell a capacitor blown, which means a power supply is not long for this world<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. ATLs with a stuck tape smell of phenol<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. and you can smell 'warm'<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. when some piece of equipment is beginning to overheat, it emits an odour which I can't describe otherwise. Transformers burning generate a nasty brown smell as well.
<p>
I just noticed that I also suffer from synasthesia.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , yes !
You can smell a capacitor blown , which means a power supply is not long for this world .. ATLs with a stuck tape smell of phenol .. and you can smell 'warm ' .. when some piece of equipment is beginning to overheat , it emits an odour which I ca n't describe otherwise .
Transformers burning generate a nasty brown smell as well .
I just noticed that I also suffer from synasthesia .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, yes!
You can smell a capacitor blown, which means a power supply is not long for this world .. ATLs with a stuck tape smell of phenol .. and you can smell 'warm' .. when some piece of equipment is beginning to overheat, it emits an odour which I can't describe otherwise.
Transformers burning generate a nasty brown smell as well.
I just noticed that I also suffer from synasthesia.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31576142</id>
	<title>Re:If they're like some IT departments I've seen..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269255540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For many clients I've seen (and I work in IT outsourcing company), anything what costs more than $5 causes a month of paper ping-pong, 'cause you tell them "This is critical, your server will go down if you not replace this", they: "Oh, okay, replace it!", you: "It costs $50", they: "Oh noes! Too much!!! Can do something other?". No bitch, your single HDD is failing and I no IT Wizard to magically repair it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For many clients I 've seen ( and I work in IT outsourcing company ) , anything what costs more than $ 5 causes a month of paper ping-pong , 'cause you tell them " This is critical , your server will go down if you not replace this " , they : " Oh , okay , replace it !
" , you : " It costs $ 50 " , they : " Oh noes !
Too much ! ! !
Can do something other ? " .
No bitch , your single HDD is failing and I no IT Wizard to magically repair it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For many clients I've seen (and I work in IT outsourcing company), anything what costs more than $5 causes a month of paper ping-pong, 'cause you tell them "This is critical, your server will go down if you not replace this", they: "Oh, okay, replace it!
", you: "It costs $50", they: "Oh noes!
Too much!!!
Can do something other?".
No bitch, your single HDD is failing and I no IT Wizard to magically repair it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556628</id>
	<title>fake weather, earthquakes, volcanos, storms, wars</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269175800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with 0 'warnings' re; anything, forthcoming.</p><p>everything outside of the mainstream media(ahhaha), &amp; the outdoors in general, is well worth p(r)aying attention (cheap enough) to.</p><p>as always, never a better time to consult with/trust in your creators. get ready to see the light.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with 0 'warnings ' re ; anything , forthcoming.everything outside of the mainstream media ( ahhaha ) , &amp; the outdoors in general , is well worth p ( r ) aying attention ( cheap enough ) to.as always , never a better time to consult with/trust in your creators .
get ready to see the light .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with 0 'warnings' re; anything, forthcoming.everything outside of the mainstream media(ahhaha), &amp; the outdoors in general, is well worth p(r)aying attention (cheap enough) to.as always, never a better time to consult with/trust in your creators.
get ready to see the light.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556124</id>
	<title>Who's minding the servers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269167520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two comments...</p><p>1. Windows in the server room?<br>2. No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two comments...1 .
Windows in the server room ? 2 .
No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two comments...1.
Windows in the server room?2.
No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557756</id>
	<title>Re:Who's minding the servers?</title>
	<author>Mister Whirly</author>
	<datestamp>1269188340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Windows in the server room is a HUGE security risk, and generally a big no-no. You need to have proper ventilation and cooling, but usually the server room is windowless and in the middle of the building, not on the outside walls. What is the point of having "secure" server room if all someone needs to do is break a window to get in?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows in the server room is a HUGE security risk , and generally a big no-no .
You need to have proper ventilation and cooling , but usually the server room is windowless and in the middle of the building , not on the outside walls .
What is the point of having " secure " server room if all someone needs to do is break a window to get in ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows in the server room is a HUGE security risk, and generally a big no-no.
You need to have proper ventilation and cooling, but usually the server room is windowless and in the middle of the building, not on the outside walls.
What is the point of having "secure" server room if all someone needs to do is break a window to get in?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556128</id>
	<title>Funny, I routinely smell my servers...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269167640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is funny, I routinely smell my servers and my UPS at the fans where the air come out of them to make sure nothing overheats but I never thought about mentioning that to anybody<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-))</p><p>hehe...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is funny , I routinely smell my servers and my UPS at the fans where the air come out of them to make sure nothing overheats but I never thought about mentioning that to anybody ; - ) ) hehe.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is funny, I routinely smell my servers and my UPS at the fans where the air come out of them to make sure nothing overheats but I never thought about mentioning that to anybody ;-))hehe...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556366</id>
	<title>Re:Who's minding the servers?</title>
	<author>osu-neko</author>
	<datestamp>1269171240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>2. No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on?</p></div><p>It's that SOP for a UPS?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>On a more serious note, is there a more unreliable piece of equipment in any office?  I swear I've seen more bad UPS's than good ones, and I'm not talking about ones that have been sitting around for years -- I've seen more UPS's that did not function properly three months out of the box than ones that did.  Granted, I'm talking the cheapo kind you can get at Best Buy or the like, but still, they ought to work at least half the time, no?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>2 .
No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on ? It 's that SOP for a UPS ?
; ) On a more serious note , is there a more unreliable piece of equipment in any office ?
I swear I 've seen more bad UPS 's than good ones , and I 'm not talking about ones that have been sitting around for years -- I 've seen more UPS 's that did not function properly three months out of the box than ones that did .
Granted , I 'm talking the cheapo kind you can get at Best Buy or the like , but still , they ought to work at least half the time , no ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.
No-one noticed the UPS with all its error lights on?It's that SOP for a UPS?
;)On a more serious note, is there a more unreliable piece of equipment in any office?
I swear I've seen more bad UPS's than good ones, and I'm not talking about ones that have been sitting around for years -- I've seen more UPS's that did not function properly three months out of the box than ones that did.
Granted, I'm talking the cheapo kind you can get at Best Buy or the like, but still, they ought to work at least half the time, no?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31557586</id>
	<title>Re:This is interesting, can this happen?</title>
	<author>dfgchgfxrjtdhgh.jjhv</author>
	<datestamp>1269186900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He said 'server room', that's not necessarily a datacenter. It could just be a room with a few servers in. I'd assume it isn't a full scale datacenter. If you read the article, it appears to be a room with a rack of servers. There's a mention of the (lack of) ventilation system too. I know it's slashdot, but why not RTFA before asking questions answered in it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He said 'server room ' , that 's not necessarily a datacenter .
It could just be a room with a few servers in .
I 'd assume it is n't a full scale datacenter .
If you read the article , it appears to be a room with a rack of servers .
There 's a mention of the ( lack of ) ventilation system too .
I know it 's slashdot , but why not RTFA before asking questions answered in it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He said 'server room', that's not necessarily a datacenter.
It could just be a room with a few servers in.
I'd assume it isn't a full scale datacenter.
If you read the article, it appears to be a room with a rack of servers.
There's a mention of the (lack of) ventilation system too.
I know it's slashdot, but why not RTFA before asking questions answered in it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556244</id>
	<title>Re:Ooooga Booooga oh S#!t</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269169380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're potentially describing hydrogen sulfide, which has a 'rotten egg' odour and is known to anaesthetise the olfactory nerves. Sulfur dioxide has a very irritating burnt match smell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're potentially describing hydrogen sulfide , which has a 'rotten egg ' odour and is known to anaesthetise the olfactory nerves .
Sulfur dioxide has a very irritating burnt match smell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're potentially describing hydrogen sulfide, which has a 'rotten egg' odour and is known to anaesthetise the olfactory nerves.
Sulfur dioxide has a very irritating burnt match smell.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_21_0154259.31556024</id>
	<title>Someone needs to discuss...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1269166020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hygiene with the UPS.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hygiene with the UPS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hygiene with the UPS.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:APC UPS's</title>
	<author>Mashiki</author>
	<datestamp>1269194580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>All batteries cook when they're at their end of life.  Doesn't matter who/what/where, because the system is being told that it's either insufficient charge/capacity/etc, and it goes into a full charge cycle.  Which means rather then a normal discharge/charge cycle, you're always in a 105-115\% charge.  Happens with cars/motorcycles/trucks/etc as well.  Had a buddy with a sealed battery(inside the car vented out), that went.  The battery ruptured leaking acid through the inside storage panel.  Very unpleasant as we had to pull the inside panel out of the car(basicially the entire back passenger side, and clean both the plastic and metal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>All batteries cook when they 're at their end of life .
Does n't matter who/what/where , because the system is being told that it 's either insufficient charge/capacity/etc , and it goes into a full charge cycle .
Which means rather then a normal discharge/charge cycle , you 're always in a 105-115 \ % charge .
Happens with cars/motorcycles/trucks/etc as well .
Had a buddy with a sealed battery ( inside the car vented out ) , that went .
The battery ruptured leaking acid through the inside storage panel .
Very unpleasant as we had to pull the inside panel out of the car ( basicially the entire back passenger side , and clean both the plastic and metal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All batteries cook when they're at their end of life.
Doesn't matter who/what/where, because the system is being told that it's either insufficient charge/capacity/etc, and it goes into a full charge cycle.
Which means rather then a normal discharge/charge cycle, you're always in a 105-115\% charge.
Happens with cars/motorcycles/trucks/etc as well.
Had a buddy with a sealed battery(inside the car vented out), that went.
The battery ruptured leaking acid through the inside storage panel.
Very unpleasant as we had to pull the inside panel out of the car(basicially the entire back passenger side, and clean both the plastic and metal.</sentencetext>
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