<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_17_186224</id>
	<title>Firmware Hack Allows Video Analysis On a Canon Camera</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1268851800000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Researchers from the <a href="http://www.ulg.ac.be/">University of Liege in Belgium</a> have been able to perform <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlTyCymEM9g">real-time video analysis on a regular Canon digicam</a> (video link) without any hardware modification. The results are shown directly on the digicam's screen. They use a hacked version of a popular open-source alternative firmware for Canon cameras: <a href="http://chdk.wikia.com/">CHDK</a>. This is a proof-of-concept that computer vision algorithms can now be embedded on regular Canon digicams with little effort (CHDK is coded in C). What other popular vision algorithms could be implemented? For what purpose?"</i> You can get some idea about ViBe from this <a href="http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org\%2Fiel5\%2F4912736\%2F4959496\%2F04959741.pdf\%3Farnumber\%3D4959741&amp;authDecision=-203">abstract at IEEE</a>; basically, it allows background extraction in moving images.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Researchers from the University of Liege in Belgium have been able to perform real-time video analysis on a regular Canon digicam ( video link ) without any hardware modification .
The results are shown directly on the digicam 's screen .
They use a hacked version of a popular open-source alternative firmware for Canon cameras : CHDK .
This is a proof-of-concept that computer vision algorithms can now be embedded on regular Canon digicams with little effort ( CHDK is coded in C ) .
What other popular vision algorithms could be implemented ?
For what purpose ?
" You can get some idea about ViBe from this abstract at IEEE ; basically , it allows background extraction in moving images .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Researchers from the University of Liege in Belgium have been able to perform real-time video analysis on a regular Canon digicam (video link) without any hardware modification.
The results are shown directly on the digicam's screen.
They use a hacked version of a popular open-source alternative firmware for Canon cameras: CHDK.
This is a proof-of-concept that computer vision algorithms can now be embedded on regular Canon digicams with little effort (CHDK is coded in C).
What other popular vision algorithms could be implemented?
For what purpose?
" You can get some idea about ViBe from this abstract at IEEE; basically, it allows background extraction in moving images.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513412</id>
	<title>Interesting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>What I find interesting about this is not so much that the code can be loaded(since the CHDK project already did that job, and has had it working for some time now); but that consumer digicams would have enough general purpose punch to run anything much more than trivial scripts that more or less emulate series of button presses(which can be extremely useful, for time lapse, auto bracketing, etc, etc.).<br> <br>

Given the sheer number that are produced, and the fairly tight battery life constraints, I would have assumed that most of the heavy lifting(crunching raw sensor data to<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.jpeg form, or encoding video) would be done with largely fixed function hardware, with just a little bit of general purpose computer slapped on to handle UI, user input, and tweak the settings of the encoder units. Apparently, the general purpose units have more punch than I thought.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find interesting about this is not so much that the code can be loaded ( since the CHDK project already did that job , and has had it working for some time now ) ; but that consumer digicams would have enough general purpose punch to run anything much more than trivial scripts that more or less emulate series of button presses ( which can be extremely useful , for time lapse , auto bracketing , etc , etc. ) .
Given the sheer number that are produced , and the fairly tight battery life constraints , I would have assumed that most of the heavy lifting ( crunching raw sensor data to .jpeg form , or encoding video ) would be done with largely fixed function hardware , with just a little bit of general purpose computer slapped on to handle UI , user input , and tweak the settings of the encoder units .
Apparently , the general purpose units have more punch than I thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find interesting about this is not so much that the code can be loaded(since the CHDK project already did that job, and has had it working for some time now); but that consumer digicams would have enough general purpose punch to run anything much more than trivial scripts that more or less emulate series of button presses(which can be extremely useful, for time lapse, auto bracketing, etc, etc.).
Given the sheer number that are produced, and the fairly tight battery life constraints, I would have assumed that most of the heavy lifting(crunching raw sensor data to .jpeg form, or encoding video) would be done with largely fixed function hardware, with just a little bit of general purpose computer slapped on to handle UI, user input, and tweak the settings of the encoder units.
Apparently, the general purpose units have more punch than I thought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31525398</id>
	<title>Re:Zoneminder</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1268939160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Id rather zoneminder do the processing and use cheaper video cameras to send video to zoneminder.</p><p>I've been using zoneminder for 4 years now, What more important is not "cheap" but high frame rate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Id rather zoneminder do the processing and use cheaper video cameras to send video to zoneminder.I 've been using zoneminder for 4 years now , What more important is not " cheap " but high frame rate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Id rather zoneminder do the processing and use cheaper video cameras to send video to zoneminder.I've been using zoneminder for 4 years now, What more important is not "cheap" but high frame rate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513228</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513228</id>
	<title>Zoneminder</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been playing around with Zoneminder a bit &amp; this could be a way to use decentralized cheap cameras to send events to a ZM server. Pretty neat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been playing around with Zoneminder a bit &amp; this could be a way to use decentralized cheap cameras to send events to a ZM server .
Pretty neat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been playing around with Zoneminder a bit &amp; this could be a way to use decentralized cheap cameras to send events to a ZM server.
Pretty neat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31515918</id>
	<title>If you are interested by testing ViBE...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268823000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can check our <a href="http://www2.ulg.ac.be/telecom/research/vibe/" title="ulg.ac.be" rel="nofollow">dedicated webpage</a> [ulg.ac.be].</p><p>It features downloadable binaries for windows and linux (thanks to wine).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can check our dedicated webpage [ ulg.ac.be ] .It features downloadable binaries for windows and linux ( thanks to wine ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can check our dedicated webpage [ulg.ac.be].It features downloadable binaries for windows and linux (thanks to wine).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513094</id>
	<title>tiysovyw</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268855520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>doodely-doo<br>first post!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>doodely-doofirst post !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>doodely-doofirst post!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31515566</id>
	<title>Re:THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>dotgain</author>
	<datestamp>1268821380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Tell that to the Lomography crowd.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Tell that to the Lomography crowd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tell that to the Lomography crowd.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513804</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513760</id>
	<title>Re:Fun idea</title>
	<author>psbrogna</author>
	<datestamp>1268857800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll get right on that as soon as you define "juicy" in a machine-readable format.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll get right on that as soon as you define " juicy " in a machine-readable format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll get right on that as soon as you define "juicy" in a machine-readable format.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513500</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513728</id>
	<title>Re:THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most photographers refer to a non-SLR digital camera as a "digicam" and a dSLR as a "digital camera", as a means of differentiating the two in conversation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most photographers refer to a non-SLR digital camera as a " digicam " and a dSLR as a " digital camera " , as a means of differentiating the two in conversation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most photographers refer to a non-SLR digital camera as a "digicam" and a dSLR as a "digital camera", as a means of differentiating the two in conversation.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513280</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31514146</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268859420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Application-specific ICs are expensive. Both to design and produce. It tends to be cheaper to throw a whole microcontroller and DSP chip at the problem - even if it's way overkill - than it would be to build just the necessary circuitry, especially in consumer devices where you can afford slightly slower speeds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Application-specific ICs are expensive .
Both to design and produce .
It tends to be cheaper to throw a whole microcontroller and DSP chip at the problem - even if it 's way overkill - than it would be to build just the necessary circuitry , especially in consumer devices where you can afford slightly slower speeds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Application-specific ICs are expensive.
Both to design and produce.
It tends to be cheaper to throw a whole microcontroller and DSP chip at the problem - even if it's way overkill - than it would be to build just the necessary circuitry, especially in consumer devices where you can afford slightly slower speeds.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513412</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31514426</id>
	<title>yuo f4il it!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268817300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">Very distracting to volume of NetBSD To the politicaaly consistent with the up today!  If you been sitting here 4.1BSD product, Apple too. No, was what got me</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very distracting to volume of NetBSD To the politicaaly consistent with the up today !
If you been sitting here 4.1BSD product , Apple too .
No , was what got me [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very distracting to volume of NetBSD To the politicaaly consistent with the up today!
If you been sitting here 4.1BSD product, Apple too.
No, was what got me [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513718</id>
	<title>For SLR's makes much more sense</title>
	<author>mynickwastaken</author>
	<datestamp>1268857620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would like to have CHDK on my EOS-450d (Rebel XSi) and other Canon SLRs. There makes much sense.
The FW dumps are available but I have no clue why nobody is starting porting?!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would like to have CHDK on my EOS-450d ( Rebel XSi ) and other Canon SLRs .
There makes much sense .
The FW dumps are available but I have no clue why nobody is starting porting ?
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would like to have CHDK on my EOS-450d (Rebel XSi) and other Canon SLRs.
There makes much sense.
The FW dumps are available but I have no clue why nobody is starting porting?
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513280</id>
	<title>THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Digicam"? What the fuck is that?</p><p>They're called "digital cameras". Nothing more, nothing less.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Digicam " ?
What the fuck is that ? They 're called " digital cameras " .
Nothing more , nothing less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Digicam"?
What the fuck is that?They're called "digital cameras".
Nothing more, nothing less.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513866</id>
	<title>Not alternative firmware</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268858280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's worth pointing out that CHDK isn't a hacked firmware (that would probably not be legally redistributable), nor is it an alternative firmware (that would be too much work). CHDK is an <i>add-on</i> to the existing firmware, that works by piggibacking on its OS, hooking functions, and spawning off extra processes on the camera's RTOS. This is what makes it so great: you get the original funcionality of the camera plus extra stuff, and you don't have to wait for the developers to add what already came with your camera anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's worth pointing out that CHDK is n't a hacked firmware ( that would probably not be legally redistributable ) , nor is it an alternative firmware ( that would be too much work ) .
CHDK is an add-on to the existing firmware , that works by piggibacking on its OS , hooking functions , and spawning off extra processes on the camera 's RTOS .
This is what makes it so great : you get the original funcionality of the camera plus extra stuff , and you do n't have to wait for the developers to add what already came with your camera anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's worth pointing out that CHDK isn't a hacked firmware (that would probably not be legally redistributable), nor is it an alternative firmware (that would be too much work).
CHDK is an add-on to the existing firmware, that works by piggibacking on its OS, hooking functions, and spawning off extra processes on the camera's RTOS.
This is what makes it so great: you get the original funcionality of the camera plus extra stuff, and you don't have to wait for the developers to add what already came with your camera anyway.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513842</id>
	<title>Nothing special, only motion detection</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268858160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meh, the video demonstrates simple motion detection, which is no surprise considering that these cameras do face and smile detection all the time.</p><p>I was hoping for more, something along the lines of object recognition, artificial horizon, being able to see a road...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , the video demonstrates simple motion detection , which is no surprise considering that these cameras do face and smile detection all the time.I was hoping for more , something along the lines of object recognition , artificial horizon , being able to see a road.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, the video demonstrates simple motion detection, which is no surprise considering that these cameras do face and smile detection all the time.I was hoping for more, something along the lines of object recognition, artificial horizon, being able to see a road...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513782</id>
	<title>Re:Fun idea</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1268857860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A neural network to emulate a CCTV security guard operator.<br>Because you know that's what they look at all day, instead of catching terrorists or whatever it is they're supposed to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A neural network to emulate a CCTV security guard operator.Because you know that 's what they look at all day , instead of catching terrorists or whatever it is they 're supposed to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A neural network to emulate a CCTV security guard operator.Because you know that's what they look at all day, instead of catching terrorists or whatever it is they're supposed to do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513500</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513230</id>
	<title>CHDK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use <a href="http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK" title="wikia.com">CHDK</a> [wikia.com] on my own Canon PowerShot.  Good stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use CHDK [ wikia.com ] on my own Canon PowerShot .
Good stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use CHDK [wikia.com] on my own Canon PowerShot.
Good stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31515622</id>
	<title>Re:Video analysis</title>
	<author>Antiocheian</author>
	<datestamp>1268821680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You said "blha" instead of "Blah" in the end. That makes no sense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You said " blha " instead of " Blah " in the end .
That makes no sense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You said "blha" instead of "Blah" in the end.
That makes no sense.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513294</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31515216</id>
	<title>Re: CHDK</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1268820060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow!  I didn't know people were doing this sort of thing.  I have been leaning towards a Canon for other reasons, but this will weigh heavily in Canon's favour for my next camera purchase.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow !
I did n't know people were doing this sort of thing .
I have been leaning towards a Canon for other reasons , but this will weigh heavily in Canon 's favour for my next camera purchase .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow!
I didn't know people were doing this sort of thing.
I have been leaning towards a Canon for other reasons, but this will weigh heavily in Canon's favour for my next camera purchase.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31525440</id>
	<title>Re:THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1268939400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most photographers I know refer to SLR's as cameras and non SLR cameras as "point and shoots" or if they are snobby "cute toys"</p><p>But then I hang around professionals and photojournalists, so they may not be hip on newbie terminology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most photographers I know refer to SLR 's as cameras and non SLR cameras as " point and shoots " or if they are snobby " cute toys " But then I hang around professionals and photojournalists , so they may not be hip on newbie terminology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most photographers I know refer to SLR's as cameras and non SLR cameras as "point and shoots" or if they are snobby "cute toys"But then I hang around professionals and photojournalists, so they may not be hip on newbie terminology.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31518986</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting...</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1268845500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This also may explain why there are no truly cheap digital cameras.
</p><p>The cheapest that I can find nowadays costs still at least about USD 100. They all do zoom, fancy tricks, lots and lots of megapixels, whatever.
</p><p>Maybe I have only looked in the wrong shops but I can't seem to find cheap, simple point-and-shoot style digicams. For my business I often have to shoot photos, and would like to have a cheap cam that I can keep in my bag, that has decent quality, no need to zoom, cheap enough to not hurt my wallet when it breaks. 2-4 MP is enough. No zoom. I like an LCD but not necessary. Should take SD cards for easy transfer of images. That's all. Oh and a price tag of under say USD 50 would be nice.
</p><p>On the other hand maybe I should get a new phone, modern phone cams can do this. It's just that such a phone is quite expensive still.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This also may explain why there are no truly cheap digital cameras .
The cheapest that I can find nowadays costs still at least about USD 100 .
They all do zoom , fancy tricks , lots and lots of megapixels , whatever .
Maybe I have only looked in the wrong shops but I ca n't seem to find cheap , simple point-and-shoot style digicams .
For my business I often have to shoot photos , and would like to have a cheap cam that I can keep in my bag , that has decent quality , no need to zoom , cheap enough to not hurt my wallet when it breaks .
2-4 MP is enough .
No zoom .
I like an LCD but not necessary .
Should take SD cards for easy transfer of images .
That 's all .
Oh and a price tag of under say USD 50 would be nice .
On the other hand maybe I should get a new phone , modern phone cams can do this .
It 's just that such a phone is quite expensive still .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This also may explain why there are no truly cheap digital cameras.
The cheapest that I can find nowadays costs still at least about USD 100.
They all do zoom, fancy tricks, lots and lots of megapixels, whatever.
Maybe I have only looked in the wrong shops but I can't seem to find cheap, simple point-and-shoot style digicams.
For my business I often have to shoot photos, and would like to have a cheap cam that I can keep in my bag, that has decent quality, no need to zoom, cheap enough to not hurt my wallet when it breaks.
2-4 MP is enough.
No zoom.
I like an LCD but not necessary.
Should take SD cards for easy transfer of images.
That's all.
Oh and a price tag of under say USD 50 would be nice.
On the other hand maybe I should get a new phone, modern phone cams can do this.
It's just that such a phone is quite expensive still.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513412</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513516</id>
	<title>Re:THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>Volante3192</author>
	<datestamp>1268857020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wholeheartedly agree!  Oh I miss the days when I used a modulator-demodulator to aid in my reception of electronic mail...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wholeheartedly agree !
Oh I miss the days when I used a modulator-demodulator to aid in my reception of electronic mail.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wholeheartedly agree!
Oh I miss the days when I used a modulator-demodulator to aid in my reception of electronic mail...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31514906</id>
	<title>Re:Not alternative firmware</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1268818980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's an awesome project. On my Canons it allowed a range of extra picture tweak settings and allowed some better RAW image manipulation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an awesome project .
On my Canons it allowed a range of extra picture tweak settings and allowed some better RAW image manipulation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an awesome project.
On my Canons it allowed a range of extra picture tweak settings and allowed some better RAW image manipulation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31518238</id>
	<title>Re:Not alternative firmware</title>
	<author>quacking duck</author>
	<datestamp>1268838780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On the other hand, it also can't add back what Canon took out. One of the best photos I ever took (IMHO) was taken with the Color Accent mode accidentally turned on in my Canon A540. This feature was removed in the A570 that replaced it. It seems like trivial functionality to put back in, but CHDK can't.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On the other hand , it also ca n't add back what Canon took out .
One of the best photos I ever took ( IMHO ) was taken with the Color Accent mode accidentally turned on in my Canon A540 .
This feature was removed in the A570 that replaced it .
It seems like trivial functionality to put back in , but CHDK ca n't .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the other hand, it also can't add back what Canon took out.
One of the best photos I ever took (IMHO) was taken with the Color Accent mode accidentally turned on in my Canon A540.
This feature was removed in the A570 that replaced it.
It seems like trivial functionality to put back in, but CHDK can't.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513804</id>
	<title>Re:THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The "digital" part is superfluous. Nobody uses film any more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The " digital " part is superfluous .
Nobody uses film any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The "digital" part is superfluous.
Nobody uses film any more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513690</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting...</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1268857560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What I find interesting about this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... that consumer digicams would have enough general purpose punch to run anything much more than trivial scripts</p></div><p>Check the feature list of typical modern "consumer"-ish digital cams.  Marketing has decided that the average moron needs to be able to filter pics to look like a faded photograph, or put the picture inside an ornate picture frame, or cover up parts of the image with heart and caption overlays like those stupid "reality-TV" dating shows.  The enormous resources required for stupid marketing tricks can be re-purposed to do much more interesting things...  Which probably pisses off the marketing guys.  Which I like.</p><p>To a first approximation, the computing power required to store a pic is not much worse than the viewfinder display.  And they don't seem to care about updating the video viewfinder continuously.  So, it can't be too horrible of a computational task.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What I find interesting about this is ... that consumer digicams would have enough general purpose punch to run anything much more than trivial scriptsCheck the feature list of typical modern " consumer " -ish digital cams .
Marketing has decided that the average moron needs to be able to filter pics to look like a faded photograph , or put the picture inside an ornate picture frame , or cover up parts of the image with heart and caption overlays like those stupid " reality-TV " dating shows .
The enormous resources required for stupid marketing tricks can be re-purposed to do much more interesting things... Which probably pisses off the marketing guys .
Which I like.To a first approximation , the computing power required to store a pic is not much worse than the viewfinder display .
And they do n't seem to care about updating the video viewfinder continuously .
So , it ca n't be too horrible of a computational task .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I find interesting about this is ... that consumer digicams would have enough general purpose punch to run anything much more than trivial scriptsCheck the feature list of typical modern "consumer"-ish digital cams.
Marketing has decided that the average moron needs to be able to filter pics to look like a faded photograph, or put the picture inside an ornate picture frame, or cover up parts of the image with heart and caption overlays like those stupid "reality-TV" dating shows.
The enormous resources required for stupid marketing tricks can be re-purposed to do much more interesting things...  Which probably pisses off the marketing guys.
Which I like.To a first approximation, the computing power required to store a pic is not much worse than the viewfinder display.
And they don't seem to care about updating the video viewfinder continuously.
So, it can't be too horrible of a computational task.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31514058</id>
	<title>Re:Interesting...</title>
	<author>The Lerneaen Hydra</author>
	<datestamp>1268859060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, for what it's worth, the only thing the camera in the video seems to be doing is threshold compare on a pixel by pixel basis, ie if each pixel changes from the previous frame by more than a certain amount then it's highlighted, which is a pretty simple operation. Still, it's a cool proof of concept.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , for what it 's worth , the only thing the camera in the video seems to be doing is threshold compare on a pixel by pixel basis , ie if each pixel changes from the previous frame by more than a certain amount then it 's highlighted , which is a pretty simple operation .
Still , it 's a cool proof of concept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, for what it's worth, the only thing the camera in the video seems to be doing is threshold compare on a pixel by pixel basis, ie if each pixel changes from the previous frame by more than a certain amount then it's highlighted, which is a pretty simple operation.
Still, it's a cool proof of concept.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31517708</id>
	<title>Re: CHDK</title>
	<author>ShakaUVM</author>
	<datestamp>1268834280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;I use CHDK on my own Canon PowerShot. Good stuff.</p><p>Ditto. When I get bored waiting for an animal to do something, I play Daleks on my camera. It's awesome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; I use CHDK on my own Canon PowerShot .
Good stuff.Ditto .
When I get bored waiting for an animal to do something , I play Daleks on my camera .
It 's awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;I use CHDK on my own Canon PowerShot.
Good stuff.Ditto.
When I get bored waiting for an animal to do something, I play Daleks on my camera.
It's awesome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31531468</id>
	<title>Re:Not alternative firmware</title>
	<author>A non-mouse Cow Herd</author>
	<datestamp>1268920560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The stuff done by the Digic DSP (rather than the plain jane ARM946ES that runs the OS, UI and CHDK) hasn't been deeply explored. You might be able to get color accent back, if your hack-fu is sufficient. The fact it hasn't been done isn't by itself a sign that it is impossible, it more frequently means no one has spent a lot of time in that particular area. Of course, if you did spend the time, you might find that it is in fact not possible. The canon firmware code is complicated enough (~3MB of machine code and data for the a540) that there are huge areas that no one has really dug into. The features that exist in CHDK are the result of someone scratching a particular itch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The stuff done by the Digic DSP ( rather than the plain jane ARM946ES that runs the OS , UI and CHDK ) has n't been deeply explored .
You might be able to get color accent back , if your hack-fu is sufficient .
The fact it has n't been done is n't by itself a sign that it is impossible , it more frequently means no one has spent a lot of time in that particular area .
Of course , if you did spend the time , you might find that it is in fact not possible .
The canon firmware code is complicated enough ( ~ 3MB of machine code and data for the a540 ) that there are huge areas that no one has really dug into .
The features that exist in CHDK are the result of someone scratching a particular itch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The stuff done by the Digic DSP (rather than the plain jane ARM946ES that runs the OS, UI and CHDK) hasn't been deeply explored.
You might be able to get color accent back, if your hack-fu is sufficient.
The fact it hasn't been done isn't by itself a sign that it is impossible, it more frequently means no one has spent a lot of time in that particular area.
Of course, if you did spend the time, you might find that it is in fact not possible.
The canon firmware code is complicated enough (~3MB of machine code and data for the a540) that there are huge areas that no one has really dug into.
The features that exist in CHDK are the result of someone scratching a particular itch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513500</id>
	<title>Fun idea</title>
	<author>Stephen Tennant</author>
	<datestamp>1268856960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could someone please develop an open-source recognition algorithm for juicy teen asses?

I'll be happy to write the UI if various visual parameters are supported, though I'm sure depth perception will be a challenge. Nothing worse than a fatty but a flatty...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could someone please develop an open-source recognition algorithm for juicy teen asses ?
I 'll be happy to write the UI if various visual parameters are supported , though I 'm sure depth perception will be a challenge .
Nothing worse than a fatty but a flatty.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could someone please develop an open-source recognition algorithm for juicy teen asses?
I'll be happy to write the UI if various visual parameters are supported, though I'm sure depth perception will be a challenge.
Nothing worse than a fatty but a flatty...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513106</id>
	<title>Your official guide to the Jigaboo presidency</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268855520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.</p><p>INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.<br>You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.</p><p>CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER<br>Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat</p><p>HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.</p><p>FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.<br>Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.</p><p>MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.<br>Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger !
If handled properly , your apeman will give years of valuable , if reluctant , service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model .
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration , i.e .
chained together .
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it , and do n't even think about taking that chain off , ever .
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them .
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud .
House niggers work best as standalone units , but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape .
At this stage , your nigger can also be given a name .
Most owners use the same names over and over , since niggers become confused by too much data .
Rufus , Rastus , Remus , Toby , Carslisle , Carlton , Hey-You ! -Yes-you ! , Yeller , Blackstar , and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger .
If your nigger is a ho , it should be called Latrelle , L'Tanya , or Jemima .
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke .
Pearl , Blossom , and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes .
These names go straight over your nigger 's head , by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error , your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords .
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - " muh dick " being the most popular .
However , others make barking , yelping , yapping noises and appear to be in some pain , so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger 's tongue .
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least , you wo n't hear it complaining anywhere near as much .
Niggers have nothing interesting to say , anyway .
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons ( yours , mine , and that of women , not the nigger 's ) .
This is strongly recommended , and frankly , it 's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars .
Make sure , however , that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through .
The rule of thumb is , four niggers per square yard of cage .
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers .
You can site a nigger cage anywhere , even on soft ground .
Do n't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage .
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they 're not about to now .
In any case , your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape .
As long as the free food holds out , your nigger is living better than it did in Africa , so it will stay put .
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage , as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken , corn bread , and watermelon .
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly does n't deserve it .
Instead , feed it on porridge with salt , and creek water .
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields , other niggers , etc .
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat , but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day .
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer , since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives .
He reports he does n't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result .
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work , since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained .
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton .
You really would .
Coffee beans ?
Do n't ask .
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very , very averse to work of any kind .
The nigger 's most</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger!
If handled properly, your apeman will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model.
Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e.
chained together.
Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately after unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever.
Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them.
This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud.
House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape.
At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name.
Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data.
Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger.
If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima.
Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke.
Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes.
These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGEROwing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords.
Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular.
However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue.
Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much.
Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway.
Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's).
This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boatHOUSING YOUR NIGGER.Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars.
Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through.
The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage.
So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers.
You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground.
Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage.
Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now.
In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape.
As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put.
Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon.
You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it.
Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water.
Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day.
Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives.
He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result.
You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained.
You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton.
You really would.
Coffee beans?
Don't ask.
You have no idea.MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind.
The nigger's most</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31517620</id>
	<title>Re:THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>Khyber</author>
	<datestamp>1268833620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, most photographers that refer to a non-SLR digital camera refer to it as a PnS (Point and Shoot) and dSLR as just "SLR" as in most digital forums it's automatically assumed you're running a digital camera opposed to film.</p><p>I still take superior pictures with my Minolta X-700, no Photoshop needed afterwards.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , most photographers that refer to a non-SLR digital camera refer to it as a PnS ( Point and Shoot ) and dSLR as just " SLR " as in most digital forums it 's automatically assumed you 're running a digital camera opposed to film.I still take superior pictures with my Minolta X-700 , no Photoshop needed afterwards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, most photographers that refer to a non-SLR digital camera refer to it as a PnS (Point and Shoot) and dSLR as just "SLR" as in most digital forums it's automatically assumed you're running a digital camera opposed to film.I still take superior pictures with my Minolta X-700, no Photoshop needed afterwards.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31518354</id>
	<title>Re: CHDK</title>
	<author>mctk</author>
	<datestamp>1268839920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also use CHDK, also consider it good stuff.  And I love the fact that my powershot takes AA batteries and has a standard USB connector.  They've gotten more money out of me because of this, not in spite of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also use CHDK , also consider it good stuff .
And I love the fact that my powershot takes AA batteries and has a standard USB connector .
They 've gotten more money out of me because of this , not in spite of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also use CHDK, also consider it good stuff.
And I love the fact that my powershot takes AA batteries and has a standard USB connector.
They've gotten more money out of me because of this, not in spite of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513736</id>
	<title>Re:Video analysis</title>
	<author>psbrogna</author>
	<datestamp>1268857680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Boss, is that you?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Boss , is that you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Boss, is that you?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513274</id>
	<title>CHDK is cool - more programmable cameras, please</title>
	<author>Animaether</author>
	<datestamp>1268856120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Subject pretty much says it all.</p><p>Unfortunately, it seems many camera manufacturers - including Canon when it comes to their SLR line - are far happier to put any new functionality in newly released camera models and put them on the bullet list for those, rather than making it available for older models as well and just letting the new model's technical (rather than software) advantages make their sales.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Subject pretty much says it all.Unfortunately , it seems many camera manufacturers - including Canon when it comes to their SLR line - are far happier to put any new functionality in newly released camera models and put them on the bullet list for those , rather than making it available for older models as well and just letting the new model 's technical ( rather than software ) advantages make their sales .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Subject pretty much says it all.Unfortunately, it seems many camera manufacturers - including Canon when it comes to their SLR line - are far happier to put any new functionality in newly released camera models and put them on the bullet list for those, rather than making it available for older models as well and just letting the new model's technical (rather than software) advantages make their sales.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513648</id>
	<title>Thank you, Lord of Language</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we did not have you policing it for us, our language would have devolved into mutually incomprehensible babbling eons ago. Thank you for your continued vigilance.</p><p>However, I am confused by your use of the phrase 'the fuck,'  and sentence fragments. Could you diagram your sentences for me? As you are the Lord of Language, I'm sure they are all grammatically correct, I just need a little help in seeing how...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we did not have you policing it for us , our language would have devolved into mutually incomprehensible babbling eons ago .
Thank you for your continued vigilance.However , I am confused by your use of the phrase 'the fuck, ' and sentence fragments .
Could you diagram your sentences for me ?
As you are the Lord of Language , I 'm sure they are all grammatically correct , I just need a little help in seeing how.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we did not have you policing it for us, our language would have devolved into mutually incomprehensible babbling eons ago.
Thank you for your continued vigilance.However, I am confused by your use of the phrase 'the fuck,'  and sentence fragments.
Could you diagram your sentences for me?
As you are the Lord of Language, I'm sure they are all grammatically correct, I just need a little help in seeing how...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513294</id>
	<title>Video analysis</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Abstraction overload.
</p><p>
I'm sure "video analysis" means something more concrete to those in the know (or not), but I can't shake off the feeling that it's all blahblahblah with no meaning other than to generate more blahblahblah.
</p><p>
Guess it worked, too.  Blah blah.
</p><p>
Blah.
<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br>
Blah blha?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Abstraction overload .
I 'm sure " video analysis " means something more concrete to those in the know ( or not ) , but I ca n't shake off the feeling that it 's all blahblahblah with no meaning other than to generate more blahblahblah .
Guess it worked , too .
Blah blah .
Blah . Blah blha ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Abstraction overload.
I'm sure "video analysis" means something more concrete to those in the know (or not), but I can't shake off the feeling that it's all blahblahblah with no meaning other than to generate more blahblahblah.
Guess it worked, too.
Blah blah.
Blah.
        
Blah blha?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513832</id>
	<title>Re: CHDK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268858100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use it on my S5 IS.  I use the intervalometer, various grids (for composing level shots when it matters), the extended shutter modes (both slower and faster than the "stock" firmware allows) and of course the RGB histogram and on rare occasion raw. I don't use raw too often though because it slows the camere down a fair bit. However, CHDK is a wonderful tool and scripting it isn't too bad. The documentation is actually pretty good for a "young" open source project.  In short, it makes point-and-shoot cameras usable where they otherwise wouldn't be, and where a point-and-shoot camera is preferable to a DSLR (such as when traveling), it can give you some of the capabilities you would normally turn to a DSLR for.</p><p>I hope they manage to port it to the DSLRs, particularly the EOS 7D.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use it on my S5 IS .
I use the intervalometer , various grids ( for composing level shots when it matters ) , the extended shutter modes ( both slower and faster than the " stock " firmware allows ) and of course the RGB histogram and on rare occasion raw .
I do n't use raw too often though because it slows the camere down a fair bit .
However , CHDK is a wonderful tool and scripting it is n't too bad .
The documentation is actually pretty good for a " young " open source project .
In short , it makes point-and-shoot cameras usable where they otherwise would n't be , and where a point-and-shoot camera is preferable to a DSLR ( such as when traveling ) , it can give you some of the capabilities you would normally turn to a DSLR for.I hope they manage to port it to the DSLRs , particularly the EOS 7D .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use it on my S5 IS.
I use the intervalometer, various grids (for composing level shots when it matters), the extended shutter modes (both slower and faster than the "stock" firmware allows) and of course the RGB histogram and on rare occasion raw.
I don't use raw too often though because it slows the camere down a fair bit.
However, CHDK is a wonderful tool and scripting it isn't too bad.
The documentation is actually pretty good for a "young" open source project.
In short, it makes point-and-shoot cameras usable where they otherwise wouldn't be, and where a point-and-shoot camera is preferable to a DSLR (such as when traveling), it can give you some of the capabilities you would normally turn to a DSLR for.I hope they manage to port it to the DSLRs, particularly the EOS 7D.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31514432</id>
	<title>Re: CHDK</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268817300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does repeating a link in the summary really count as informative?<br>I know this article is only tangentially about CHDK but I've been looking into CHDK lately for a project so I thought I'd share some useful links.</p><p><a href="http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ#Q.\_What\_camera\_models\_are\_supported\_by\_the\_CHDK\_program.3F" title="wikia.com" rel="nofollow">Supported Cameras</a> [wikia.com]</p><p>Note that a higher number doesn't mean it's a newer model. The A710 was released before the A590.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon\_PowerShot\_A" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Canon PowerShot A series info</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p><a href="http://hackaday.com/2008/05/27/how-to-expand-your-camera-with-chdk/" title="hackaday.com" rel="nofollow">CHDK Howto</a> [hackaday.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.mweerden.net/chdk\_porting.html" title="mweerden.net" rel="nofollow">Info on how to make a port</a> [mweerden.net]</p><p><a href="http://www.mweerden.net/chdk\_ptp.html" title="mweerden.net" rel="nofollow">Info on implementing PTP in CHDK</a> [mweerden.net]<br>This is still relatively new but it could allow using a computer to remotely control the camera, which isn't doable on many Canon cameras with the stock firmware. I'd love to see this mature so I can do remote capture in Linux.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does repeating a link in the summary really count as informative ? I know this article is only tangentially about CHDK but I 've been looking into CHDK lately for a project so I thought I 'd share some useful links.Supported Cameras [ wikia.com ] Note that a higher number does n't mean it 's a newer model .
The A710 was released before the A590.Canon PowerShot A series info [ wikipedia.org ] CHDK Howto [ hackaday.com ] Info on how to make a port [ mweerden.net ] Info on implementing PTP in CHDK [ mweerden.net ] This is still relatively new but it could allow using a computer to remotely control the camera , which is n't doable on many Canon cameras with the stock firmware .
I 'd love to see this mature so I can do remote capture in Linux .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does repeating a link in the summary really count as informative?I know this article is only tangentially about CHDK but I've been looking into CHDK lately for a project so I thought I'd share some useful links.Supported Cameras [wikia.com]Note that a higher number doesn't mean it's a newer model.
The A710 was released before the A590.Canon PowerShot A series info [wikipedia.org]CHDK Howto [hackaday.com]Info on how to make a port [mweerden.net]Info on implementing PTP in CHDK [mweerden.net]This is still relatively new but it could allow using a computer to remotely control the camera, which isn't doable on many Canon cameras with the stock firmware.
I'd love to see this mature so I can do remote capture in Linux.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31514924</id>
	<title>Re:Why Bother Rewriting the Wheel?</title>
	<author>pdxp</author>
	<datestamp>1268819040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>xxdinkxx makes some good points, and also I've learned from experience that OpenCV is too slow for mobile devices in its generic form. You'd end up needing to write optimized assembler code specific to the camera's processor anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>xxdinkxx makes some good points , and also I 've learned from experience that OpenCV is too slow for mobile devices in its generic form .
You 'd end up needing to write optimized assembler code specific to the camera 's processor anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>xxdinkxx makes some good points, and also I've learned from experience that OpenCV is too slow for mobile devices in its generic form.
You'd end up needing to write optimized assembler code specific to the camera's processor anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513646</id>
	<title>Why Bother Rewriting the Wheel?</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1268857380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencvlibrary/" title="sourceforge.net">OpenCV</a> [sourceforge.net] has <a href="http://opencv.willowgarage.com/documentation/cv.\_image\_processing\_and\_computer\_vision.html" title="willowgarage.com">C interfaces</a> [willowgarage.com] and there are more that have <a href="http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~cil/v-source.html" title="cmu.edu">some C code libraries</a> [cmu.edu].  Really the coding challenge would be building the wrappers to utilize those libraries with your camera's hardware (I assume provided through CHDK APIs).  My vote is for a nifty KLT implementation that allows me to take a video and extract a huge wide pan image in post processing on the camera.</htmltext>
<tokenext>OpenCV [ sourceforge.net ] has C interfaces [ willowgarage.com ] and there are more that have some C code libraries [ cmu.edu ] .
Really the coding challenge would be building the wrappers to utilize those libraries with your camera 's hardware ( I assume provided through CHDK APIs ) .
My vote is for a nifty KLT implementation that allows me to take a video and extract a huge wide pan image in post processing on the camera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OpenCV [sourceforge.net] has C interfaces [willowgarage.com] and there are more that have some C code libraries [cmu.edu].
Really the coding challenge would be building the wrappers to utilize those libraries with your camera's hardware (I assume provided through CHDK APIs).
My vote is for a nifty KLT implementation that allows me to take a video and extract a huge wide pan image in post processing on the camera.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31518992</id>
	<title>Re:Why Bother Rewriting the Wheel?</title>
	<author>wvmarle</author>
	<datestamp>1268845620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have seen exactly that demo'ed in an ad on TV not so long ago. I forgot which brand has it, but it exists.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have seen exactly that demo'ed in an ad on TV not so long ago .
I forgot which brand has it , but it exists .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have seen exactly that demo'ed in an ad on TV not so long ago.
I forgot which brand has it, but it exists.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513962</id>
	<title>Re:Fun idea</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1268858640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you need an algorithm to identify which girls are attractive, then you don't need an attractive girl.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you need an algorithm to identify which girls are attractive , then you do n't need an attractive girl .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you need an algorithm to identify which girls are attractive, then you don't need an attractive girl.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31513908</id>
	<title>Re: CHDK</title>
	<author>xxdinkxx</author>
	<datestamp>1268858460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/bitstream/2268/12087/1/Barnich2009ViBe.pdf" title="ulg.ac.be">http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/bitstream/2268/12087/1/Barnich2009ViBe.pdf</a> [ulg.ac.be]

There is the paper in question.

I despise the fact that I still have to pay for papers in IEEE silos when I am in fact a member.<br>
Yeah I could upgrade my subscription, but bah.<br>
<br>
RANT.YML<br>
 rant: <br>
     information should be free</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //orbi.ulg.ac.be/bitstream/2268/12087/1/Barnich2009ViBe.pdf [ ulg.ac.be ] There is the paper in question .
I despise the fact that I still have to pay for papers in IEEE silos when I am in fact a member .
Yeah I could upgrade my subscription , but bah .
RANT.YML rant : information should be free</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/bitstream/2268/12087/1/Barnich2009ViBe.pdf [ulg.ac.be]

There is the paper in question.
I despise the fact that I still have to pay for papers in IEEE silos when I am in fact a member.
Yeah I could upgrade my subscription, but bah.
RANT.YML
 rant: 
     information should be free</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_186224.31516498</id>
	<title>Re:THEY ARE NOT CALLED "DIGICAMS".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268825700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>how do you call my cannon G11  ?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>how do you call my cannon G11 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how do you call my cannon G11  ?</sentencetext>
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