<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_17_1828244</id>
	<title>Android 2.1 Finally Makes It To Droid</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1268850600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>MrSmith0011000100110 writes <i>"The lovely people over at AndroidCentral have broken the announcement that <a href="http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-droids-android-21-update-be-rolled-out-starting-thursday">Android 2.1 is finally coming to the Motorola Droid</a>, with actual  <a href="http://support.vzw.com/pdf/system\_update/moto\_droid.pdf">proof on Verizon's Droid support page</a> (PDF).  I don't know about my Droid brethren, but I'm pretty excited to see the new series of Android ROMs for the Droid phone that are based on a stock Android 2.1.  As most of us know, the existing 2.1 ROMs can be buggy as hell and either running vanilla 2.1 or a custom ROM; but this phone is still a tinkerer's best friend."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>MrSmith0011000100110 writes " The lovely people over at AndroidCentral have broken the announcement that Android 2.1 is finally coming to the Motorola Droid , with actual proof on Verizon 's Droid support page ( PDF ) .
I do n't know about my Droid brethren , but I 'm pretty excited to see the new series of Android ROMs for the Droid phone that are based on a stock Android 2.1 .
As most of us know , the existing 2.1 ROMs can be buggy as hell and either running vanilla 2.1 or a custom ROM ; but this phone is still a tinkerer 's best friend .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MrSmith0011000100110 writes "The lovely people over at AndroidCentral have broken the announcement that Android 2.1 is finally coming to the Motorola Droid, with actual  proof on Verizon's Droid support page (PDF).
I don't know about my Droid brethren, but I'm pretty excited to see the new series of Android ROMs for the Droid phone that are based on a stock Android 2.1.
As most of us know, the existing 2.1 ROMs can be buggy as hell and either running vanilla 2.1 or a custom ROM; but this phone is still a tinkerer's best friend.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31518618</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268842380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about the Mot Milestone?  It's the GSM droid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about the Mot Milestone ?
It 's the GSM droid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about the Mot Milestone?
It's the GSM droid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512990</id>
	<title>what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268855160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On my linux based phone I juat "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade"</p><p>None of this "ROM" or "flashing" nonsense.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On my linux based phone I juat " apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade " None of this " ROM " or " flashing " nonsense .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On my linux based phone I juat "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade"None of this "ROM" or "flashing" nonsense.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513836</id>
	<title>Flash?</title>
	<author>sycorob</author>
	<datestamp>1268858100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So Flash 10 obviously isn't in this update. Has anybody heard any recent news on when this would be available? Last I heard, it was supposed to come out end of 2009<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So Flash 10 obviously is n't in this update .
Has anybody heard any recent news on when this would be available ?
Last I heard , it was supposed to come out end of 2009 .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So Flash 10 obviously isn't in this update.
Has anybody heard any recent news on when this would be available?
Last I heard, it was supposed to come out end of 2009 ...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514384</id>
	<title>Re:I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>ThermalRunaway</author>
	<datestamp>1268817120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but if you use nandroid, it't almost impossible to really be up a creek. Just backup your "clean" image and you can always get back.

I'm played around with some 2.1 roms on my Droid and I love the new features.. but there are a few too many bugs to make me use it on a daily basis.

I have a few roms on my SD and I just boot whatever I want at the moment to play around.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but if you use nandroid , it't almost impossible to really be up a creek .
Just backup your " clean " image and you can always get back .
I 'm played around with some 2.1 roms on my Droid and I love the new features.. but there are a few too many bugs to make me use it on a daily basis .
I have a few roms on my SD and I just boot whatever I want at the moment to play around .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but if you use nandroid, it't almost impossible to really be up a creek.
Just backup your "clean" image and you can always get back.
I'm played around with some 2.1 roms on my Droid and I love the new features.. but there are a few too many bugs to make me use it on a daily basis.
I have a few roms on my SD and I just boot whatever I want at the moment to play around.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514350</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268817000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Google recently released Nexus one that supports Rogers 3G networks, and it is available for Canadians to buy, there is also a version for Wind. Bell/Telus can't run the Nexus one yet though.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Google recently released Nexus one that supports Rogers 3G networks , and it is available for Canadians to buy , there is also a version for Wind .
Bell/Telus ca n't run the Nexus one yet though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google recently released Nexus one that supports Rogers 3G networks, and it is available for Canadians to buy, there is also a version for Wind.
Bell/Telus can't run the Nexus one yet though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513524</id>
	<title>Re:Help...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First of all, -1, offtopic. Or maybe you're trolling, but I'll bite.</p><p>Secondly, no.</p><p>You'd hit the vast majority if you target 1.6, but not necessarily everyone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First of all , -1 , offtopic .
Or maybe you 're trolling , but I 'll bite.Secondly , no.You 'd hit the vast majority if you target 1.6 , but not necessarily everyone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First of all, -1, offtopic.
Or maybe you're trolling, but I'll bite.Secondly, no.You'd hit the vast majority if you target 1.6, but not necessarily everyone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513384</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31527968</id>
	<title>Delayed... Again. In other news Gran Turismo 5 out</title>
	<author>winningham.2</author>
	<datestamp>1268903880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Official reports that Android 2.1 is delayed yet again and will not be released at noon Thursday March 18th. Heard the real reason for the latest delay on the Android 2.1 update for Droid phones is due to Motorola&rsquo;s distribution vendor (Bitfone- now owned by HP). They are having capacity problems with a) the Bitfone application that distributes the updates and b) capacity issues with the current network infrastructure that hosts this application. Suckie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Official reports that Android 2.1 is delayed yet again and will not be released at noon Thursday March 18th .
Heard the real reason for the latest delay on the Android 2.1 update for Droid phones is due to Motorola    s distribution vendor ( Bitfone- now owned by HP ) .
They are having capacity problems with a ) the Bitfone application that distributes the updates and b ) capacity issues with the current network infrastructure that hosts this application .
Suckie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Official reports that Android 2.1 is delayed yet again and will not be released at noon Thursday March 18th.
Heard the real reason for the latest delay on the Android 2.1 update for Droid phones is due to Motorola’s distribution vendor (Bitfone- now owned by HP).
They are having capacity problems with a) the Bitfone application that distributes the updates and b) capacity issues with the current network infrastructure that hosts this application.
Suckie.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31518446</id>
	<title>Re:Super.</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1268840880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I'm glad to see this. I'm a current iPhone user, but I'm considering moving to an Android phone. One of the things that has kept me from taking the plunge is the <b>perception</b> that the Android market is fragmented and manufacturers aren't bothering to update their existing models with the most advanced version of the OS available. I don't know if that's a reality, but that's my perception.</p></div> </blockquote><p>

And that's exactly what it is a perception, most oft parroted by the fanboys opposing Android. Just like with Windows, the update to XP SP2 broke compatibility with programs that relied on hacks but not most programs. Backwards compatibility with Android software is quite good, I had no problems with 1.5, 1.6 on my dream and 2.0 and 2.01 on my Milestone. The marketplace generally wont show you software that is incompatible and wont run.</p><blockquote><div><p>So what worries me is that I'll buy a Droid (or whichever model) and some feature will be buggy.</p></div></blockquote><p>

The Droid has been out long enough that you could tell if this is the case. Early adopters have problems (remember when the Iphone was released, or Vista), to avoid this don't be an early adopter. That way you can be more informed when buying a product. Also android updates are not forced on you, you have to consciously agree to install it.<br> <br>

Motorola have committed to the next version of Android (2.5?). With the delivery of 2.1 in a fairly timely manner I think moto are keeping their end of the bargain, if they don't there are always custom ROMs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad to see this .
I 'm a current iPhone user , but I 'm considering moving to an Android phone .
One of the things that has kept me from taking the plunge is the perception that the Android market is fragmented and manufacturers are n't bothering to update their existing models with the most advanced version of the OS available .
I do n't know if that 's a reality , but that 's my perception .
And that 's exactly what it is a perception , most oft parroted by the fanboys opposing Android .
Just like with Windows , the update to XP SP2 broke compatibility with programs that relied on hacks but not most programs .
Backwards compatibility with Android software is quite good , I had no problems with 1.5 , 1.6 on my dream and 2.0 and 2.01 on my Milestone .
The marketplace generally wont show you software that is incompatible and wont run.So what worries me is that I 'll buy a Droid ( or whichever model ) and some feature will be buggy .
The Droid has been out long enough that you could tell if this is the case .
Early adopters have problems ( remember when the Iphone was released , or Vista ) , to avoid this do n't be an early adopter .
That way you can be more informed when buying a product .
Also android updates are not forced on you , you have to consciously agree to install it .
Motorola have committed to the next version of Android ( 2.5 ? ) .
With the delivery of 2.1 in a fairly timely manner I think moto are keeping their end of the bargain , if they do n't there are always custom ROMs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad to see this.
I'm a current iPhone user, but I'm considering moving to an Android phone.
One of the things that has kept me from taking the plunge is the perception that the Android market is fragmented and manufacturers aren't bothering to update their existing models with the most advanced version of the OS available.
I don't know if that's a reality, but that's my perception.
And that's exactly what it is a perception, most oft parroted by the fanboys opposing Android.
Just like with Windows, the update to XP SP2 broke compatibility with programs that relied on hacks but not most programs.
Backwards compatibility with Android software is quite good, I had no problems with 1.5, 1.6 on my dream and 2.0 and 2.01 on my Milestone.
The marketplace generally wont show you software that is incompatible and wont run.So what worries me is that I'll buy a Droid (or whichever model) and some feature will be buggy.
The Droid has been out long enough that you could tell if this is the case.
Early adopters have problems (remember when the Iphone was released, or Vista), to avoid this don't be an early adopter.
That way you can be more informed when buying a product.
Also android updates are not forced on you, you have to consciously agree to install it.
Motorola have committed to the next version of Android (2.5?).
With the delivery of 2.1 in a fairly timely manner I think moto are keeping their end of the bargain, if they don't there are always custom ROMs.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514276</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514280</id>
	<title>Re:what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>BatGnat</author>
	<datestamp>1268816700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>my linux based phone <b> <i>is</i> </b> an Android based phone</htmltext>
<tokenext>my linux based phone is an Android based phone</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my linux based phone  is  an Android based phone</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513472</id>
	<title>Re:what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>gd23ka</author>
	<datestamp>1268856840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Love your sig, yes you are right on the money dude.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Love your sig , yes you are right on the money dude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Love your sig, yes you are right on the money dude.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31522368</id>
	<title>Re:I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268925000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as long as it fixes my issue of the phone locking itself while i'm in the middle of a phone call requiring me to unlock it just to hang up..<br>then i'll be happy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as long as it fixes my issue of the phone locking itself while i 'm in the middle of a phone call requiring me to unlock it just to hang up..then i 'll be happy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as long as it fixes my issue of the phone locking itself while i'm in the middle of a phone call requiring me to unlock it just to hang up..then i'll be happy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512794</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513266</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Today is your lucky day: <a href="https://www.google.com/phone/choose?hl=en&amp;gl=US&amp;s7e=" title="google.com">N1 for 3G 850/1900/2100</a> [google.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Today is your lucky day : N1 for 3G 850/1900/2100 [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Today is your lucky day: N1 for 3G 850/1900/2100 [google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514566</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268817720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait. The N900 definitely is compatible with American networks. So shouldn&rsquo;t that make it compatible with AT&amp;T networks too?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait .
The N900 definitely is compatible with American networks .
So shouldn    t that make it compatible with AT&amp;T networks too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait.
The N900 definitely is compatible with American networks.
So shouldn’t that make it compatible with AT&amp;T networks too?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514184</id>
	<title>Tinkerer's best friend?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268859480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you heard about Nokia N900? That's the true tinkerer's best friend.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you heard about Nokia N900 ?
That 's the true tinkerer 's best friend .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you heard about Nokia N900?
That's the true tinkerer's best friend.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31516866</id>
	<title>Re:Super.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268828040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had the same worries before I switched.  Sadly some of what you mention is reality.  The market is fragmented and apps that exist for one phone may not exist or work for another.  The other thing I've found is that apps that do exist on both phones, trapster for example, have a shadow of the functionality on the moto droid as they do on the iphone.  Some of this may be technical but some of it is definitely not.  The player really makes me miss itunes smart playlists and ability to manage the files.</p><p>With that said, I don't miss the conformist attitude that the iphone presents.  I jailbroke for very few reasons.  Five Icon dock, tether and categories.  Apple could easily satisfy the aesthetics part of my wants but refuses to do so.  AT&amp;T won't officially allow tether.  It's too troubling to mess with so now I've got a droid and love the freedom it presents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had the same worries before I switched .
Sadly some of what you mention is reality .
The market is fragmented and apps that exist for one phone may not exist or work for another .
The other thing I 've found is that apps that do exist on both phones , trapster for example , have a shadow of the functionality on the moto droid as they do on the iphone .
Some of this may be technical but some of it is definitely not .
The player really makes me miss itunes smart playlists and ability to manage the files.With that said , I do n't miss the conformist attitude that the iphone presents .
I jailbroke for very few reasons .
Five Icon dock , tether and categories .
Apple could easily satisfy the aesthetics part of my wants but refuses to do so .
AT&amp;T wo n't officially allow tether .
It 's too troubling to mess with so now I 've got a droid and love the freedom it presents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had the same worries before I switched.
Sadly some of what you mention is reality.
The market is fragmented and apps that exist for one phone may not exist or work for another.
The other thing I've found is that apps that do exist on both phones, trapster for example, have a shadow of the functionality on the moto droid as they do on the iphone.
Some of this may be technical but some of it is definitely not.
The player really makes me miss itunes smart playlists and ability to manage the files.With that said, I don't miss the conformist attitude that the iphone presents.
I jailbroke for very few reasons.
Five Icon dock, tether and categories.
Apple could easily satisfy the aesthetics part of my wants but refuses to do so.
AT&amp;T won't officially allow tether.
It's too troubling to mess with so now I've got a droid and love the freedom it presents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513744</id>
	<title>What is this "apt" of which you speak ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On my google nexus one phone, new updates just silently gets downloaded in the background, and i am then asked, with a nice yes/no window if i want to apply it or not.</p><p>none of this apt typing nonsense!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On my google nexus one phone , new updates just silently gets downloaded in the background , and i am then asked , with a nice yes/no window if i want to apply it or not.none of this apt typing nonsense !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On my google nexus one phone, new updates just silently gets downloaded in the background, and i am then asked, with a nice yes/no window if i want to apply it or not.none of this apt typing nonsense!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31547854</id>
	<title>Phones should not be appliances</title>
	<author>Yfrwlf</author>
	<datestamp>1269028440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Phones should be like computers, and you should not have to code Android for specific phones other than giving Linux the needed drivers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Phones should be like computers , and you should not have to code Android for specific phones other than giving Linux the needed drivers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Phones should be like computers, and you should not have to code Android for specific phones other than giving Linux the needed drivers.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512952</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268855040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good for you!  I don't use Windows either...  And I don't use OSX.  And since iTunes isn't supported on Linux, I <b>can't</b> use an iPhone or an iPod Touch or an iPad...  Not that I'm really complaining (because I wouldn't use them anyway, but because I like the alternatives better)...  Just because you like something better doesn't make it better (Then again, maybe I shouldn't feed the troll)...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good for you !
I do n't use Windows either... And I do n't use OSX .
And since iTunes is n't supported on Linux , I ca n't use an iPhone or an iPod Touch or an iPad... Not that I 'm really complaining ( because I would n't use them anyway , but because I like the alternatives better ) ... Just because you like something better does n't make it better ( Then again , maybe I should n't feed the troll ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good for you!
I don't use Windows either...  And I don't use OSX.
And since iTunes isn't supported on Linux, I can't use an iPhone or an iPod Touch or an iPad...  Not that I'm really complaining (because I wouldn't use them anyway, but because I like the alternatives better)...  Just because you like something better doesn't make it better (Then again, maybe I shouldn't feed the troll)...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31515090</id>
	<title>Not really news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268819640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Droid-native builds of 2.1 in build ERE25 and ESE53 have been available from some time after being leaked from Verizon.  There are already several top-end custom ROMs based around ESE53 (and most had ERE25 versions as well).  ESE53 adds native support for all 2.1 features, including gpu acceleration for 2.1 Live Wallpapers.</p><p>If you have a Droid and want to try it out, you can hit up droidforums.net or alldroid.org to get the ROMs.  I recommend ChevyNo1's Simply Stunning, AdamZ's Smoked Glass, and blackdroid's Ultimate Droid.  Pete is falling behind with Bugless Beast and he's kind of a dick to other developers too, so you can skip over it.</p><p>Just recently Helix Launcher 1.2a was released through XDA-Developers and on the Android Market for free, so it has made it's way into a few ROMs as well.  I highly recommend rooting with Droid Root Helper, flashing recovery to SP Recovery 0.99.3b, and trying out Ultimate Droid 7.8 first.  While a little more error-prone than some of the less complex ROMs, it is pretty much filled to the brim with features, and nonetheless is fairly solid these days (move from ported 2.1 to native ERE25/ESE53 helped considerably).</p><p>With a custom ESE53 ROM and Kernel (recommend AdamZ's Medium Voltage 1.1GHz or ChevyNo1's ESE53 5-slot 1.1GHz) you should be able to do 1.1GHz no prob, and possibly push as far as 1.3GHz on the CPU overclock.  Help support good devs and buy TempMonitor and SetCPU in the Android Market to overclock and check your batt/cpu temps.</p><p>I highly recommend you do not wait for the over the air upgrade, as it is likely to be significantly reduced in feature set compared to current native development builds (ERE25/ESE53), and you will get quite a few added features in custom ROMs (HTC Sense UI, Helix Launcher, Swype, Full Live Wallpapers support, Wi-Fi Tethering, etc. with matching theme).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Droid-native builds of 2.1 in build ERE25 and ESE53 have been available from some time after being leaked from Verizon .
There are already several top-end custom ROMs based around ESE53 ( and most had ERE25 versions as well ) .
ESE53 adds native support for all 2.1 features , including gpu acceleration for 2.1 Live Wallpapers.If you have a Droid and want to try it out , you can hit up droidforums.net or alldroid.org to get the ROMs .
I recommend ChevyNo1 's Simply Stunning , AdamZ 's Smoked Glass , and blackdroid 's Ultimate Droid .
Pete is falling behind with Bugless Beast and he 's kind of a dick to other developers too , so you can skip over it.Just recently Helix Launcher 1.2a was released through XDA-Developers and on the Android Market for free , so it has made it 's way into a few ROMs as well .
I highly recommend rooting with Droid Root Helper , flashing recovery to SP Recovery 0.99.3b , and trying out Ultimate Droid 7.8 first .
While a little more error-prone than some of the less complex ROMs , it is pretty much filled to the brim with features , and nonetheless is fairly solid these days ( move from ported 2.1 to native ERE25/ESE53 helped considerably ) .With a custom ESE53 ROM and Kernel ( recommend AdamZ 's Medium Voltage 1.1GHz or ChevyNo1 's ESE53 5-slot 1.1GHz ) you should be able to do 1.1GHz no prob , and possibly push as far as 1.3GHz on the CPU overclock .
Help support good devs and buy TempMonitor and SetCPU in the Android Market to overclock and check your batt/cpu temps.I highly recommend you do not wait for the over the air upgrade , as it is likely to be significantly reduced in feature set compared to current native development builds ( ERE25/ESE53 ) , and you will get quite a few added features in custom ROMs ( HTC Sense UI , Helix Launcher , Swype , Full Live Wallpapers support , Wi-Fi Tethering , etc .
with matching theme ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Droid-native builds of 2.1 in build ERE25 and ESE53 have been available from some time after being leaked from Verizon.
There are already several top-end custom ROMs based around ESE53 (and most had ERE25 versions as well).
ESE53 adds native support for all 2.1 features, including gpu acceleration for 2.1 Live Wallpapers.If you have a Droid and want to try it out, you can hit up droidforums.net or alldroid.org to get the ROMs.
I recommend ChevyNo1's Simply Stunning, AdamZ's Smoked Glass, and blackdroid's Ultimate Droid.
Pete is falling behind with Bugless Beast and he's kind of a dick to other developers too, so you can skip over it.Just recently Helix Launcher 1.2a was released through XDA-Developers and on the Android Market for free, so it has made it's way into a few ROMs as well.
I highly recommend rooting with Droid Root Helper, flashing recovery to SP Recovery 0.99.3b, and trying out Ultimate Droid 7.8 first.
While a little more error-prone than some of the less complex ROMs, it is pretty much filled to the brim with features, and nonetheless is fairly solid these days (move from ported 2.1 to native ERE25/ESE53 helped considerably).With a custom ESE53 ROM and Kernel (recommend AdamZ's Medium Voltage 1.1GHz or ChevyNo1's ESE53 5-slot 1.1GHz) you should be able to do 1.1GHz no prob, and possibly push as far as 1.3GHz on the CPU overclock.
Help support good devs and buy TempMonitor and SetCPU in the Android Market to overclock and check your batt/cpu temps.I highly recommend you do not wait for the over the air upgrade, as it is likely to be significantly reduced in feature set compared to current native development builds (ERE25/ESE53), and you will get quite a few added features in custom ROMs (HTC Sense UI, Helix Launcher, Swype, Full Live Wallpapers support, Wi-Fi Tethering, etc.
with matching theme).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513288</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>vio</author>
	<datestamp>1268856180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually N1 for ATT/Rogers was released a couple of days ago, so that's an option now.  N900 works fine on any GSM network (but no 3G).</p><p>The "Canadian" TELUS Milestone (Droid) seems to have been rooted, but still no news on custom ROMS (or official 2.1 updates for that matter).  I expect it'll arrive eventually though (and the Milestone can be used on all 3 networks).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually N1 for ATT/Rogers was released a couple of days ago , so that 's an option now .
N900 works fine on any GSM network ( but no 3G ) .The " Canadian " TELUS Milestone ( Droid ) seems to have been rooted , but still no news on custom ROMS ( or official 2.1 updates for that matter ) .
I expect it 'll arrive eventually though ( and the Milestone can be used on all 3 networks ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually N1 for ATT/Rogers was released a couple of days ago, so that's an option now.
N900 works fine on any GSM network (but no 3G).The "Canadian" TELUS Milestone (Droid) seems to have been rooted, but still no news on custom ROMS (or official 2.1 updates for that matter).
I expect it'll arrive eventually though (and the Milestone can be used on all 3 networks).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513550</id>
	<title>Re:what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>Mike Buddha</author>
	<datestamp>1268857080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you can update your Baseband with apt? I'd didn't know it was capable of that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So you can update your Baseband with apt ?
I 'd did n't know it was capable of that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you can update your Baseband with apt?
I'd didn't know it was capable of that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513376</id>
	<title>Re:I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And no, I won't root it.  Not because "I'm scared", but because I don't mess around with my primary device (I have a G1 and a ATT Tilt (HTC Tyan II) that are both rooted).  If something goes wrong, I want the ability to drive directly to Verizon and get a new device without worry about "Crap, it's still rooted, let me get home and try to unroot it before taking it in"...  Plus, I rely on it for daily use.  So if for some reason it bricked, I'd be up the creak without a paddle...</p></div><p>So in other words, you're scared<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></div>
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<tokenext>And no , I wo n't root it .
Not because " I 'm scared " , but because I do n't mess around with my primary device ( I have a G1 and a ATT Tilt ( HTC Tyan II ) that are both rooted ) .
If something goes wrong , I want the ability to drive directly to Verizon and get a new device without worry about " Crap , it 's still rooted , let me get home and try to unroot it before taking it in " ... Plus , I rely on it for daily use .
So if for some reason it bricked , I 'd be up the creak without a paddle...So in other words , you 're scared : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And no, I won't root it.
Not because "I'm scared", but because I don't mess around with my primary device (I have a G1 and a ATT Tilt (HTC Tyan II) that are both rooted).
If something goes wrong, I want the ability to drive directly to Verizon and get a new device without worry about "Crap, it's still rooted, let me get home and try to unroot it before taking it in"...  Plus, I rely on it for daily use.
So if for some reason it bricked, I'd be up the creak without a paddle...So in other words, you're scared :)
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513972</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268858700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently you missed the announcement yesterday that the Nexus one will work in Canada on Rogers, Telus and Bell</p><p>http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Google+releases+Nexus+smartphone+Canada/2693212/story.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you missed the announcement yesterday that the Nexus one will work in Canada on Rogers , Telus and Bellhttp : //www.vancouversun.com/technology/Google + releases + Nexus + smartphone + Canada/2693212/story.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you missed the announcement yesterday that the Nexus one will work in Canada on Rogers, Telus and Bellhttp://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Google+releases+Nexus+smartphone+Canada/2693212/story.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31515190</id>
	<title>Re:I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>centuren</author>
	<datestamp>1268820000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Has anyone noticed how bad it is, that you have something that is supposed do be an open source Linux-based phone, and you don&rsquo;t even have root access right out of the factory? Even worse, not only do you have to root it with a hack, but you are also supposed to feel bad about it when returning it for broken hardware (which has nothing to do with modded software)?</p></div><p>I have indeed noticed something at least a bit...off about Android phones, but that something could easily be something I'm missing. Before I explain my situation, perhaps someone with more experience can enlighten me: what's the deal with carrier released Android ROMs? More specifically, is this news only to Droid users who haven't rooted their phone, or are Android phone owners really not able to upgrade their OS version without a carrier release?</p><p>I've wanted an Android phone since the G1 was announced, more or less, but never could justify committing to the total cost of ownership (I get by with spending $10/mo on voice and ~$5/mo for 400 or so texts). Less than 6 months ago, I won a Samsung Behold 2 in an online giveaway (to my amazement). It's not the Android phone I would have picked by far, but it has enough of the hardware features one needs to use all the neat apps (touch, tilt, compass, gps, a rather nice camera, etc). Already being a T-Mobile customer, I put my existing sim card into the new phone, turned off all the wireless data conduits, and only use "network access" via WIFI (home, work, friends' places). I miss out on key things like maps and Internet outside where they can be most needed, but it works out well enough compared to the alternative of not having an Android phone at all.</p><p>As many will know, the Behold 2 shipped with Android 1.5 or 1.6. I have looked into rooting it but haven't put any serious effort into it yet, primarily because I haven't come across information on upgrading the OS version. I understand the advantage to getting a ROM from a carrier (e.g. I'd really like my camera software to keep working properly), but I expected to go to <a href="http://www.android.com/" title="android.com">http://www.android.com/</a> [android.com] and find a "Download Android 2.1 Now" link, with general documentation about how one goes about installing Android on their supported device.</p><p>All I find is the release notes and the SDK, which I've downloaded and used before with an emulator. If that's a path to upgrading my phone, I missed it (not having a phone at the time). If I have to root my phone before I can install / upgrade on that level, fine, just point me to a tangible Android 2.1 download I can use on my phone once I've rooted it. Since 2.1 is a big upgrade over 1.5/1.6, I'm not exactly going to be spending any money in the Android marketplace, since I don't know which weak points I want to replace are improved in the OS upgrade.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Has anyone noticed how bad it is , that you have something that is supposed do be an open source Linux-based phone , and you don    t even have root access right out of the factory ?
Even worse , not only do you have to root it with a hack , but you are also supposed to feel bad about it when returning it for broken hardware ( which has nothing to do with modded software ) ? I have indeed noticed something at least a bit...off about Android phones , but that something could easily be something I 'm missing .
Before I explain my situation , perhaps someone with more experience can enlighten me : what 's the deal with carrier released Android ROMs ?
More specifically , is this news only to Droid users who have n't rooted their phone , or are Android phone owners really not able to upgrade their OS version without a carrier release ? I 've wanted an Android phone since the G1 was announced , more or less , but never could justify committing to the total cost of ownership ( I get by with spending $ 10/mo on voice and ~ $ 5/mo for 400 or so texts ) .
Less than 6 months ago , I won a Samsung Behold 2 in an online giveaway ( to my amazement ) .
It 's not the Android phone I would have picked by far , but it has enough of the hardware features one needs to use all the neat apps ( touch , tilt , compass , gps , a rather nice camera , etc ) .
Already being a T-Mobile customer , I put my existing sim card into the new phone , turned off all the wireless data conduits , and only use " network access " via WIFI ( home , work , friends ' places ) .
I miss out on key things like maps and Internet outside where they can be most needed , but it works out well enough compared to the alternative of not having an Android phone at all.As many will know , the Behold 2 shipped with Android 1.5 or 1.6 .
I have looked into rooting it but have n't put any serious effort into it yet , primarily because I have n't come across information on upgrading the OS version .
I understand the advantage to getting a ROM from a carrier ( e.g .
I 'd really like my camera software to keep working properly ) , but I expected to go to http : //www.android.com/ [ android.com ] and find a " Download Android 2.1 Now " link , with general documentation about how one goes about installing Android on their supported device.All I find is the release notes and the SDK , which I 've downloaded and used before with an emulator .
If that 's a path to upgrading my phone , I missed it ( not having a phone at the time ) .
If I have to root my phone before I can install / upgrade on that level , fine , just point me to a tangible Android 2.1 download I can use on my phone once I 've rooted it .
Since 2.1 is a big upgrade over 1.5/1.6 , I 'm not exactly going to be spending any money in the Android marketplace , since I do n't know which weak points I want to replace are improved in the OS upgrade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone noticed how bad it is, that you have something that is supposed do be an open source Linux-based phone, and you don’t even have root access right out of the factory?
Even worse, not only do you have to root it with a hack, but you are also supposed to feel bad about it when returning it for broken hardware (which has nothing to do with modded software)?I have indeed noticed something at least a bit...off about Android phones, but that something could easily be something I'm missing.
Before I explain my situation, perhaps someone with more experience can enlighten me: what's the deal with carrier released Android ROMs?
More specifically, is this news only to Droid users who haven't rooted their phone, or are Android phone owners really not able to upgrade their OS version without a carrier release?I've wanted an Android phone since the G1 was announced, more or less, but never could justify committing to the total cost of ownership (I get by with spending $10/mo on voice and ~$5/mo for 400 or so texts).
Less than 6 months ago, I won a Samsung Behold 2 in an online giveaway (to my amazement).
It's not the Android phone I would have picked by far, but it has enough of the hardware features one needs to use all the neat apps (touch, tilt, compass, gps, a rather nice camera, etc).
Already being a T-Mobile customer, I put my existing sim card into the new phone, turned off all the wireless data conduits, and only use "network access" via WIFI (home, work, friends' places).
I miss out on key things like maps and Internet outside where they can be most needed, but it works out well enough compared to the alternative of not having an Android phone at all.As many will know, the Behold 2 shipped with Android 1.5 or 1.6.
I have looked into rooting it but haven't put any serious effort into it yet, primarily because I haven't come across information on upgrading the OS version.
I understand the advantage to getting a ROM from a carrier (e.g.
I'd really like my camera software to keep working properly), but I expected to go to http://www.android.com/ [android.com] and find a "Download Android 2.1 Now" link, with general documentation about how one goes about installing Android on their supported device.All I find is the release notes and the SDK, which I've downloaded and used before with an emulator.
If that's a path to upgrading my phone, I missed it (not having a phone at the time).
If I have to root my phone before I can install / upgrade on that level, fine, just point me to a tangible Android 2.1 download I can use on my phone once I've rooted it.
Since 2.1 is a big upgrade over 1.5/1.6, I'm not exactly going to be spending any money in the Android marketplace, since I don't know which weak points I want to replace are improved in the OS upgrade.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514318</id>
	<title>Re:Flash?</title>
	<author>BatGnat</author>
	<datestamp>1268816880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>They back-tracked and said that full flash ten will only work on phones that have an ARM v7 Cortex processer, so only newer phones get it (Droid, N1)
<br>
<a href="http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2010/02/26/adobe-flash-10-will-not-support-first-generation-android-devices/" title="androidauthority.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2010/02/26/adobe-flash-10-will-not-support-first-generation-android-devices/</a> [androidauthority.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>They back-tracked and said that full flash ten will only work on phones that have an ARM v7 Cortex processer , so only newer phones get it ( Droid , N1 ) http : //www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2010/02/26/adobe-flash-10-will-not-support-first-generation-android-devices/ [ androidauthority.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They back-tracked and said that full flash ten will only work on phones that have an ARM v7 Cortex processer, so only newer phones get it (Droid, N1)

http://www.androidauthority.com/index.php/2010/02/26/adobe-flash-10-will-not-support-first-generation-android-devices/ [androidauthority.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513582</id>
	<title>Re:Help...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Are all the phones at 2.1 now?</p></div><p>http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.html<br>That's two months old, but the answer to your question is still no.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>what version should I develop for?</p></div><p>The lowest version that supports the features you need.  If you can accomplish your purpose with the features in the 1.5 SDK, use that.  If not, move to a newer one.  You'll set a "minSDK" attribute in your project that will limit your application to only those devices that will support it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are all the phones at 2.1 now ? http : //developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.htmlThat 's two months old , but the answer to your question is still no.what version should I develop for ? The lowest version that supports the features you need .
If you can accomplish your purpose with the features in the 1.5 SDK , use that .
If not , move to a newer one .
You 'll set a " minSDK " attribute in your project that will limit your application to only those devices that will support it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are all the phones at 2.1 now?http://developer.android.com/resources/dashboard/platform-versions.htmlThat's two months old, but the answer to your question is still no.what version should I develop for?The lowest version that supports the features you need.
If you can accomplish your purpose with the features in the 1.5 SDK, use that.
If not, move to a newer one.
You'll set a "minSDK" attribute in your project that will limit your application to only those devices that will support it.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513850</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268858220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Motorola Milestone is a GSM variant of DROID that's offered in Canada. So far exclusive to Telus, though.</p><p>And yesterday, Google has released a variant of Nexus One that works on AT&amp;T 3G frequencies in U.S., which means that it also works in Canada. And, yes, they do ship to Canada. You can only order an unlocked one online, though, not subsidized via any operator.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Motorola Milestone is a GSM variant of DROID that 's offered in Canada .
So far exclusive to Telus , though.And yesterday , Google has released a variant of Nexus One that works on AT&amp;T 3G frequencies in U.S. , which means that it also works in Canada .
And , yes , they do ship to Canada .
You can only order an unlocked one online , though , not subsidized via any operator .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Motorola Milestone is a GSM variant of DROID that's offered in Canada.
So far exclusive to Telus, though.And yesterday, Google has released a variant of Nexus One that works on AT&amp;T 3G frequencies in U.S., which means that it also works in Canada.
And, yes, they do ship to Canada.
You can only order an unlocked one online, though, not subsidized via any operator.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31522856</id>
	<title>What about HTC Hero?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268927280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would like to know when the HTC Hero will be upgraded to Android 2.x on the Telus network in Canada.  I am holding off buying one.  Anyone have ideas?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would like to know when the HTC Hero will be upgraded to Android 2.x on the Telus network in Canada .
I am holding off buying one .
Anyone have ideas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would like to know when the HTC Hero will be upgraded to Android 2.x on the Telus network in Canada.
I am holding off buying one.
Anyone have ideas?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513786</id>
	<title>Bitchin Bagle is where it's at.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268857860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'll update my phone to 2.1 when there's a root hack and the Sholes guys put out a ROM.  Sholes includes must have stuff like wireless tethering and more than 3 screens.  Not to mention overclocking....</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'll update my phone to 2.1 when there 's a root hack and the Sholes guys put out a ROM .
Sholes includes must have stuff like wireless tethering and more than 3 screens .
Not to mention overclocking... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'll update my phone to 2.1 when there's a root hack and the Sholes guys put out a ROM.
Sholes includes must have stuff like wireless tethering and more than 3 screens.
Not to mention overclocking....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513384</id>
	<title>Help...</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1268856540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok I'm about to start Android development, what version should I develop for? There seem to be about 4 different versions of the SDK?   Are all the phones at 2.1 now?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok I 'm about to start Android development , what version should I develop for ?
There seem to be about 4 different versions of the SDK ?
Are all the phones at 2.1 now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok I'm about to start Android development, what version should I develop for?
There seem to be about 4 different versions of the SDK?
Are all the phones at 2.1 now?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514514</id>
	<title>Re:I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268817540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Has anyone noticed how bad it is, that you have something that is supposed do be an open source Linux-based phone, and you don&rsquo;t even have root access right out of the factory?<br>Even worse, not only do you have to root it with a hack, but you are also supposed to feel bad about it when returning it for broken hardware (which has nothing to do with modded software)?</p><p>Sorry, but how can you stand something like that? I would never buy it, or be very very pissed.<br>My Linux phone had root. I installed my own software, and various other packages. And it&rsquo;s not only OK with the vendor. No, it&rsquo;s even expected.<br>(I&rsquo;m not going to say which one, so I don&rsquo;t sound like a retarded fanboi. But it&rsquo;s pretty obvious which one it is, since it&rsquo;s as far as I know the only one.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Has anyone noticed how bad it is , that you have something that is supposed do be an open source Linux-based phone , and you don    t even have root access right out of the factory ? Even worse , not only do you have to root it with a hack , but you are also supposed to feel bad about it when returning it for broken hardware ( which has nothing to do with modded software ) ? Sorry , but how can you stand something like that ?
I would never buy it , or be very very pissed.My Linux phone had root .
I installed my own software , and various other packages .
And it    s not only OK with the vendor .
No , it    s even expected .
( I    m not going to say which one , so I don    t sound like a retarded fanboi .
But it    s pretty obvious which one it is , since it    s as far as I know the only one .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Has anyone noticed how bad it is, that you have something that is supposed do be an open source Linux-based phone, and you don’t even have root access right out of the factory?Even worse, not only do you have to root it with a hack, but you are also supposed to feel bad about it when returning it for broken hardware (which has nothing to do with modded software)?Sorry, but how can you stand something like that?
I would never buy it, or be very very pissed.My Linux phone had root.
I installed my own software, and various other packages.
And it’s not only OK with the vendor.
No, it’s even expected.
(I’m not going to say which one, so I don’t sound like a retarded fanboi.
But it’s pretty obvious which one it is, since it’s as far as I know the only one.
;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512752</id>
	<title>first</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268854320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512766</id>
	<title>v2.1 Post</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268854320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Beat the droid to first post</htmltext>
<tokenext>Beat the droid to first post</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Beat the droid to first post</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514802</id>
	<title>Re:what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>AndrewNeo</author>
	<datestamp>1268818500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When dealing with Android phones:<br>ROM = A zip file containing system update files that will be added/replaced and scripts that perform the upgrade.<br>Flashing = Extracting the update file and running the shell scripts.</p><p>People just use the same terminology as regular cell phones when it comes to this stuff. You're not overwriting the (whole) NAND when you flash and there's nothing "read only" about it (after the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/system partition has been mounted rw, for 'flashing', that is.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When dealing with Android phones : ROM = A zip file containing system update files that will be added/replaced and scripts that perform the upgrade.Flashing = Extracting the update file and running the shell scripts.People just use the same terminology as regular cell phones when it comes to this stuff .
You 're not overwriting the ( whole ) NAND when you flash and there 's nothing " read only " about it ( after the /system partition has been mounted rw , for 'flashing ' , that is .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When dealing with Android phones:ROM = A zip file containing system update files that will be added/replaced and scripts that perform the upgrade.Flashing = Extracting the update file and running the shell scripts.People just use the same terminology as regular cell phones when it comes to this stuff.
You're not overwriting the (whole) NAND when you flash and there's nothing "read only" about it (after the /system partition has been mounted rw, for 'flashing', that is.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514322</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268816880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/globe-on-technology/nexus-one-now-available-in-canada/article1502169/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/globe-on-technology/nexus-one-now-available-in-canada/article1502169/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/blogs/globe-on-technology/nexus-one-now-available-in-canada/article1502169/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514816</id>
	<title>Re:I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1268818560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I understand your sentiment, but let's be honest here for a second.  If you want support, the best way to go about it is using "approved" versions of the software.  I love Linux, but it makes it hard for a company to support.  Now, they could insist on nandroid backups of the OEM system in order to support phones with root, but that's yet another system they have to support.  For instance they could say, "Do with it what you like, but before returning it to the store for repair, run this to restore the default configuration."</p><p>Hell, back when I did PC support, most OEMs insisted on this for even Windows builds.  I'm sure we all remember the Packard Bell/Compaq/etc. system restore discs.  They were more to ensure that the software wasn't the problem and it truly was a hardware issue.  Most of them don't even help you today with Windows builds unless they are factory stock.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I understand your sentiment , but let 's be honest here for a second .
If you want support , the best way to go about it is using " approved " versions of the software .
I love Linux , but it makes it hard for a company to support .
Now , they could insist on nandroid backups of the OEM system in order to support phones with root , but that 's yet another system they have to support .
For instance they could say , " Do with it what you like , but before returning it to the store for repair , run this to restore the default configuration .
" Hell , back when I did PC support , most OEMs insisted on this for even Windows builds .
I 'm sure we all remember the Packard Bell/Compaq/etc .
system restore discs .
They were more to ensure that the software was n't the problem and it truly was a hardware issue .
Most of them do n't even help you today with Windows builds unless they are factory stock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understand your sentiment, but let's be honest here for a second.
If you want support, the best way to go about it is using "approved" versions of the software.
I love Linux, but it makes it hard for a company to support.
Now, they could insist on nandroid backups of the OEM system in order to support phones with root, but that's yet another system they have to support.
For instance they could say, "Do with it what you like, but before returning it to the store for repair, run this to restore the default configuration.
"Hell, back when I did PC support, most OEMs insisted on this for even Windows builds.
I'm sure we all remember the Packard Bell/Compaq/etc.
system restore discs.
They were more to ensure that the software wasn't the problem and it truly was a hardware issue.
Most of them don't even help you today with Windows builds unless they are factory stock.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31516160</id>
	<title>Re:Help...</title>
	<author>Svartalf</author>
	<datestamp>1268823960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Depends on your application.  Pick the lowest one that supports what you need out of the API edges for the application.  For the applications I'm writing right at the moment, that would be 1.5 or later since they've got OpenGL ES 1.1 support (at minimum) available if the vendor making the device licensed the driver stack from the respective GPU vendors sitting in the SoC's in use (So far, I've not seen an Android that had a decent 1.1 GPU not have the drivers licensed for them...).</p><p>As long as you're not hitting an API breakage (It's my understanding that there's none with 1.5 going forward...) the app should just simply work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on your application .
Pick the lowest one that supports what you need out of the API edges for the application .
For the applications I 'm writing right at the moment , that would be 1.5 or later since they 've got OpenGL ES 1.1 support ( at minimum ) available if the vendor making the device licensed the driver stack from the respective GPU vendors sitting in the SoC 's in use ( So far , I 've not seen an Android that had a decent 1.1 GPU not have the drivers licensed for them... ) .As long as you 're not hitting an API breakage ( It 's my understanding that there 's none with 1.5 going forward... ) the app should just simply work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on your application.
Pick the lowest one that supports what you need out of the API edges for the application.
For the applications I'm writing right at the moment, that would be 1.5 or later since they've got OpenGL ES 1.1 support (at minimum) available if the vendor making the device licensed the driver stack from the respective GPU vendors sitting in the SoC's in use (So far, I've not seen an Android that had a decent 1.1 GPU not have the drivers licensed for them...).As long as you're not hitting an API breakage (It's my understanding that there's none with 1.5 going forward...) the app should just simply work.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31515098</id>
	<title>Re:what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1268819640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could always go here:</p><p><a href="http://www.cyanogenmod.com/" title="cyanogenmod.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyanogenmod.com/</a> [cyanogenmod.com]</p><p>And give this "Cyanogen" character a piece of your mind - he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could always go here : http : //www.cyanogenmod.com/ [ cyanogenmod.com ] And give this " Cyanogen " character a piece of your mind - he clearly does n't know what he 's talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could always go here:http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ [cyanogenmod.com]And give this "Cyanogen" character a piece of your mind - he clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512990</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513322</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>IIRC, Rodgers is going to have a Nexius One that works with the 3g</htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC , Rodgers is going to have a Nexius One that works with the 3g</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC, Rodgers is going to have a Nexius One that works with the 3g</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514276</id>
	<title>Super.</title>
	<author>nine-times</author>
	<datestamp>1268816700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm glad to see this.  I'm a current iPhone user, but I'm considering moving to an Android phone.  One of the things that has kept me from taking the plunge is the perception that the Android market is fragmented and manufacturers aren't bothering to update their existing models with the most advanced version of the OS available.  I don't know if that's a reality, but that's my perception.
</p><p>So what worries me is that I'll buy a Droid (or whichever model) and some feature will be buggy.  The problem will be fixed in an OS update, but that update won't ever make it to my phone.  Or some great new application will be released, but it won't work on my phone because I can't upgrade the OS.
</p><p>I'm not a big fan of Apple's tight control over application distribution, but at least they're keeping things pretty compatible and offering free upgrades to their newest OS version.  If Motorola can show that they'll keep these things up to date, maybe I'll make the switch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm glad to see this .
I 'm a current iPhone user , but I 'm considering moving to an Android phone .
One of the things that has kept me from taking the plunge is the perception that the Android market is fragmented and manufacturers are n't bothering to update their existing models with the most advanced version of the OS available .
I do n't know if that 's a reality , but that 's my perception .
So what worries me is that I 'll buy a Droid ( or whichever model ) and some feature will be buggy .
The problem will be fixed in an OS update , but that update wo n't ever make it to my phone .
Or some great new application will be released , but it wo n't work on my phone because I ca n't upgrade the OS .
I 'm not a big fan of Apple 's tight control over application distribution , but at least they 're keeping things pretty compatible and offering free upgrades to their newest OS version .
If Motorola can show that they 'll keep these things up to date , maybe I 'll make the switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm glad to see this.
I'm a current iPhone user, but I'm considering moving to an Android phone.
One of the things that has kept me from taking the plunge is the perception that the Android market is fragmented and manufacturers aren't bothering to update their existing models with the most advanced version of the OS available.
I don't know if that's a reality, but that's my perception.
So what worries me is that I'll buy a Droid (or whichever model) and some feature will be buggy.
The problem will be fixed in an OS update, but that update won't ever make it to my phone.
Or some great new application will be released, but it won't work on my phone because I can't upgrade the OS.
I'm not a big fan of Apple's tight control over application distribution, but at least they're keeping things pretty compatible and offering free upgrades to their newest OS version.
If Motorola can show that they'll keep these things up to date, maybe I'll make the switch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512794</id>
	<title>I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>ircmaxell</author>
	<datestamp>1268854440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am quite happy about it!  I LOVE my Droid, and the added features will be a welcome addition.<br> <br>
And no, I won't root it.  Not because "I'm scared", but because I don't mess around with my primary device (I have a G1 and a ATT Tilt (HTC Tyan II) that are both rooted).  If something goes wrong, I want the ability to drive directly to Verizon and get a new device without worry about "Crap, it's still rooted, let me get home and try to unroot it before taking it in"...  Plus, I rely on it for daily use.  So if for some reason it bricked, I'd be up the creak without a paddle...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am quite happy about it !
I LOVE my Droid , and the added features will be a welcome addition .
And no , I wo n't root it .
Not because " I 'm scared " , but because I do n't mess around with my primary device ( I have a G1 and a ATT Tilt ( HTC Tyan II ) that are both rooted ) .
If something goes wrong , I want the ability to drive directly to Verizon and get a new device without worry about " Crap , it 's still rooted , let me get home and try to unroot it before taking it in " ... Plus , I rely on it for daily use .
So if for some reason it bricked , I 'd be up the creak without a paddle.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am quite happy about it!
I LOVE my Droid, and the added features will be a welcome addition.
And no, I won't root it.
Not because "I'm scared", but because I don't mess around with my primary device (I have a G1 and a ATT Tilt (HTC Tyan II) that are both rooted).
If something goes wrong, I want the ability to drive directly to Verizon and get a new device without worry about "Crap, it's still rooted, let me get home and try to unroot it before taking it in"...  Plus, I rely on it for daily use.
So if for some reason it bricked, I'd be up the creak without a paddle...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514008</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268858880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>wait, you didn't say you use Linux or don't use Linux - just that you can't use an iPhone or an iPod Touch or an iPad</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>wait , you did n't say you use Linux or do n't use Linux - just that you ca n't use an iPhone or an iPod Touch or an iPad</tokentext>
<sentencetext>wait, you didn't say you use Linux or don't use Linux - just that you can't use an iPhone or an iPod Touch or an iPad</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31518356</id>
	<title>FREE BOOTLOADER FOR MILESTONES!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268839920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hello.</p><p>Did you know Milestone (European/Canadian/Latinamerican) brother of the Droid has a signed bootloader?</p><p>You cannot run customized firmware/kernels on the Milestone like you do on the Droid. And this is just the beginning as more locked phones are coming.</p><p>Spread the voice. Don't buy Motorola Android phones. Even Motorola itself tells you to buy HTC:</p><p>http://community.developer.motorola.com/t5/MOTODEV-Blog/Custom-ROMs-and-Motorola-s-Android-Handsets/ba-p/4224</p><p>Thanks for reading</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hello.Did you know Milestone ( European/Canadian/Latinamerican ) brother of the Droid has a signed bootloader ? You can not run customized firmware/kernels on the Milestone like you do on the Droid .
And this is just the beginning as more locked phones are coming.Spread the voice .
Do n't buy Motorola Android phones .
Even Motorola itself tells you to buy HTC : http : //community.developer.motorola.com/t5/MOTODEV-Blog/Custom-ROMs-and-Motorola-s-Android-Handsets/ba-p/4224Thanks for reading</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hello.Did you know Milestone (European/Canadian/Latinamerican) brother of the Droid has a signed bootloader?You cannot run customized firmware/kernels on the Milestone like you do on the Droid.
And this is just the beginning as more locked phones are coming.Spread the voice.
Don't buy Motorola Android phones.
Even Motorola itself tells you to buy HTC:http://community.developer.motorola.com/t5/MOTODEV-Blog/Custom-ROMs-and-Motorola-s-Android-Handsets/ba-p/4224Thanks for reading</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31518706</id>
	<title>Re:I am quite happy!</title>
	<author>El Royo</author>
	<datestamp>1268842860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You really should take a look at webOS.  You don't need to root the device.  You have root access available just by downloading the SDK.  Everything is modifiable and easy to recover because Palm makes the OS images available for download.  There's a really strong homebrew and patching community.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You really should take a look at webOS .
You do n't need to root the device .
You have root access available just by downloading the SDK .
Everything is modifiable and easy to recover because Palm makes the OS images available for download .
There 's a really strong homebrew and patching community .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You really should take a look at webOS.
You don't need to root the device.
You have root access available just by downloading the SDK.
Everything is modifiable and easy to recover because Palm makes the OS images available for download.
There's a really strong homebrew and patching community.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512804</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268854440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>As most of us know, the existing 2.1 ROMs can be buggy as hell and either running vanilla 2.1 or a custom ROM, this phone is still a tinkerer's best friend."</p></div></blockquote><p>Tinker all you like. I'll keep on using my iPhone. I also don't use Windows as I've got work to do. I don't work for Microsoft or Norton either. I use a Mac because the OS isn't full of holes and doesn't get in my way when I'm working.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As most of us know , the existing 2.1 ROMs can be buggy as hell and either running vanilla 2.1 or a custom ROM , this phone is still a tinkerer 's best friend .
" Tinker all you like .
I 'll keep on using my iPhone .
I also do n't use Windows as I 've got work to do .
I do n't work for Microsoft or Norton either .
I use a Mac because the OS is n't full of holes and does n't get in my way when I 'm working .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As most of us know, the existing 2.1 ROMs can be buggy as hell and either running vanilla 2.1 or a custom ROM, this phone is still a tinkerer's best friend.
"Tinker all you like.
I'll keep on using my iPhone.
I also don't use Windows as I've got work to do.
I don't work for Microsoft or Norton either.
I use a Mac because the OS isn't full of holes and doesn't get in my way when I'm working.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31515052</id>
	<title>G1 replacement yet?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268819520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is there a decent G1 replacement out yet? I want a Nexus One with a physical keyboard that works on T-mobile</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is there a decent G1 replacement out yet ?
I want a Nexus One with a physical keyboard that works on T-mobile</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is there a decent G1 replacement out yet?
I want a Nexus One with a physical keyboard that works on T-mobile</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513430</id>
	<title>Re:What?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268856660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I use Mac OS because it's cool and I like to use it.  I use Windows cause it pays the bills.  I use Linux because it's a neat hacker OS and it's cool too.  But Windows still pays the bills.  I'm working on fixing that but until we switch I'm stuck.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Mac OS because it 's cool and I like to use it .
I use Windows cause it pays the bills .
I use Linux because it 's a neat hacker OS and it 's cool too .
But Windows still pays the bills .
I 'm working on fixing that but until we switch I 'm stuck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Mac OS because it's cool and I like to use it.
I use Windows cause it pays the bills.
I use Linux because it's a neat hacker OS and it's cool too.
But Windows still pays the bills.
I'm working on fixing that but until we switch I'm stuck.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514114</id>
	<title>Re:Bitchin Bagle is where it's at.</title>
	<author>nschubach</author>
	<datestamp>1268859300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>FYI, the SholesMod guys moved onto <a href="http://droidmod.org/" title="droidmod.org">DroidMod</a> [droidmod.org].  Not sure if you followed any of that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FYI , the SholesMod guys moved onto DroidMod [ droidmod.org ] .
Not sure if you followed any of that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FYI, the SholesMod guys moved onto DroidMod [droidmod.org].
Not sure if you followed any of that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514680</id>
	<title>Re:what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268818020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, that sounds like a ridiculously easy way to administer a phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , that sounds like a ridiculously easy way to administer a phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, that sounds like a ridiculously easy way to administer a phone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31513078</id>
	<title>Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268855460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unless you're with CDMA Telus or WIND which only exists in two cities. Otherwise, all the other networks are AT&amp;T compatible which means no Droid, Nexus One, or N900 for me, the three phones I want to replace my iPhone with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unless you 're with CDMA Telus or WIND which only exists in two cities .
Otherwise , all the other networks are AT&amp;T compatible which means no Droid , Nexus One , or N900 for me , the three phones I want to replace my iPhone with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unless you're with CDMA Telus or WIND which only exists in two cities.
Otherwise, all the other networks are AT&amp;T compatible which means no Droid, Nexus One, or N900 for me, the three phones I want to replace my iPhone with.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514778</id>
	<title>Re:what is this "ROM" of which you speak?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268818440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is an embedded device dude, you can't just apt-get update the kernel. Somehow I doubt you even have a linux based phone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is an embedded device dude , you ca n't just apt-get update the kernel .
Somehow I doubt you even have a linux based phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is an embedded device dude, you can't just apt-get update the kernel.
Somehow I doubt you even have a linux based phone.</sentencetext>
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	<title>I hope it fixes some of the problems</title>
	<author>AaronW</author>
	<datestamp>1268847360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope it fixes the problems I've been having, especially with Wireless and VPN. PPTP on the Droid is broken if encryption is enabled and at this point my Droid does not see any wireless networks at all now. Sometimes I run into other quirks as well, like Bluetooth not connecting or the GPS not getting a signal (until I power cycle the phone).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope it fixes the problems I 've been having , especially with Wireless and VPN .
PPTP on the Droid is broken if encryption is enabled and at this point my Droid does not see any wireless networks at all now .
Sometimes I run into other quirks as well , like Bluetooth not connecting or the GPS not getting a signal ( until I power cycle the phone ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope it fixes the problems I've been having, especially with Wireless and VPN.
PPTP on the Droid is broken if encryption is enabled and at this point my Droid does not see any wireless networks at all now.
Sometimes I run into other quirks as well, like Bluetooth not connecting or the GPS not getting a signal (until I power cycle the phone).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31516926</id>
	<title>Re:Super.</title>
	<author>jmrives</author>
	<datestamp>1268828460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You could buy a Nexus One directly from Google. There's a good chance they will keep it up-to-date with regards to the OS. Of course, you would have to use T-Mobile service. Not sure if that matters to you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You could buy a Nexus One directly from Google .
There 's a good chance they will keep it up-to-date with regards to the OS .
Of course , you would have to use T-Mobile service .
Not sure if that matters to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could buy a Nexus One directly from Google.
There's a good chance they will keep it up-to-date with regards to the OS.
Of course, you would have to use T-Mobile service.
Not sure if that matters to you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31514500</id>
	<title>Re:Too bad it won't work in Canada</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268817480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know about other Slashdotters, but Canadians constantly moaning about not having the same treatment as the US gets on my tits.</p><p>Seriously - move down south or shut up!</p><p>- Not an American</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about other Slashdotters , but Canadians constantly moaning about not having the same treatment as the US gets on my tits.Seriously - move down south or shut up ! - Not an American</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about other Slashdotters, but Canadians constantly moaning about not having the same treatment as the US gets on my tits.Seriously - move down south or shut up!- Not an American</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_1828244.31512852</id>
	<title>Already use DroidMod</title>
	<author>Aequitarum Custos</author>
	<datestamp>1268854620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>which has all the features 2.1 has that I found useful Multi-touch + Picasa Gallery + Google Earth!</htmltext>
<tokenext>which has all the features 2.1 has that I found useful Multi-touch + Picasa Gallery + Google Earth !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>which has all the features 2.1 has that I found useful Multi-touch + Picasa Gallery + Google Earth!</sentencetext>
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