<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_17_0120253</id>
	<title>Scottish Wave Energy Plans Move Forward</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1268838000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>It's been a <a href="//hardware.slashdot.org/story/07/03/02/1812249/Scotland-Building-Wave-Power-Farms">long</a> <a href="//hardware.slashdot.org/story/05/05/21/0622249/Wave-Powered-Generator-to-Power-Homes">time</a> <a href="//news.slashdot.org/story/02/03/20/200249/Alternative-Energy-Power-Via-Coastal-Wave-Motion">coming</a> (2007, 2005, and 2002 respectively), but the project to harness wave energy off the Scots coast is finally coming together. Reader krou writes: <i>"The BBC is reporting that ten sites on the seabed off Scotland in Pentland Firth and around Orkney have been <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands\_and\_islands/8564662.stm">leased to energy companies with the hopes of generating wave and tidal energy</a>. 'Six sites have been allocated for wave energy developments potentially generating 600 megawatts of power and four for tidal projects, also generating 600 MW.' The leases were awarded to SSE Renewables Developments, Aquamarine Power, ScottishPower Renewables, E.ON, Pelamis Wave Power, OpenHydro Site Developments, and Marine Current Turbines. Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond said that 'These waters have been described as the Saudi Arabia of marine power and the wave and tidal projects unveiled today &mdash; exceeding the initial 700MW target capacity &mdash; underline the rich natural resources of the waters off Scotland.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been a long time coming ( 2007 , 2005 , and 2002 respectively ) , but the project to harness wave energy off the Scots coast is finally coming together .
Reader krou writes : " The BBC is reporting that ten sites on the seabed off Scotland in Pentland Firth and around Orkney have been leased to energy companies with the hopes of generating wave and tidal energy .
'Six sites have been allocated for wave energy developments potentially generating 600 megawatts of power and four for tidal projects , also generating 600 MW .
' The leases were awarded to SSE Renewables Developments , Aquamarine Power , ScottishPower Renewables , E.ON , Pelamis Wave Power , OpenHydro Site Developments , and Marine Current Turbines .
Scotland 's First Minister Alex Salmond said that 'These waters have been described as the Saudi Arabia of marine power and the wave and tidal projects unveiled today    exceeding the initial 700MW target capacity    underline the rich natural resources of the waters off Scotland .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been a long time coming (2007, 2005, and 2002 respectively), but the project to harness wave energy off the Scots coast is finally coming together.
Reader krou writes: "The BBC is reporting that ten sites on the seabed off Scotland in Pentland Firth and around Orkney have been leased to energy companies with the hopes of generating wave and tidal energy.
'Six sites have been allocated for wave energy developments potentially generating 600 megawatts of power and four for tidal projects, also generating 600 MW.
' The leases were awarded to SSE Renewables Developments, Aquamarine Power, ScottishPower Renewables, E.ON, Pelamis Wave Power, OpenHydro Site Developments, and Marine Current Turbines.
Scotland's First Minister Alex Salmond said that 'These waters have been described as the Saudi Arabia of marine power and the wave and tidal projects unveiled today — exceeding the initial 700MW target capacity — underline the rich natural resources of the waters off Scotland.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504806</id>
	<title>The trouble with Scotland</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1268759160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is that it's full of Scots..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is that it 's full of Scots. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is that it's full of Scots..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504888</id>
	<title>We can use it to power a gun! A BIG gun!</title>
	<author>Nova Express</author>
	<datestamp>1268760300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In fact, a "Wave Motion Gun!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In fact , a " Wave Motion Gun !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In fact, a "Wave Motion Gun!
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31508580</id>
	<title>Direct lunar power</title>
	<author>hey</author>
	<datestamp>1268841120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder if there is a way to get power directly from the gravitational pull of the moon.  Just asking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder if there is a way to get power directly from the gravitational pull of the moon .
Just asking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder if there is a way to get power directly from the gravitational pull of the moon.
Just asking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31508624</id>
	<title>Cost per MW?</title>
	<author>baker\_tony</author>
	<datestamp>1268841240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what's the cost per Mw-hr?<br>How does it compare against Nuclear's $30 per Mw-hr?<br><a href="http://www.nucleartourist.com/basics/costs.htm" title="nucleartourist.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nucleartourist.com/basics/costs.htm</a> [nucleartourist.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what 's the cost per Mw-hr ? How does it compare against Nuclear 's $ 30 per Mw-hr ? http : //www.nucleartourist.com/basics/costs.htm [ nucleartourist.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what's the cost per Mw-hr?How does it compare against Nuclear's $30 per Mw-hr?http://www.nucleartourist.com/basics/costs.htm [nucleartourist.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31508404</id>
	<title>Re:The big question and the unanswered question</title>
	<author>StillNeedMoreCoffee</author>
	<datestamp>1268840400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Greed, its all about greed. How can we get something for nothing. In this case energy. If any project steals energy from the waves, the whole eco-system and energy system is changed. What's at stake, fisheries, the gulf stream, the weather, whatever interacts with that energy system currently. I doubt that anyone has done extensive research on what the effects might be except on the bottom line. The ones that will make the money off this one are certainly selling it.</p><p>Lets see, I think cutting down the Cedars of Lebanon were a good example that triggered the desertification of parts of the Middle East. The bad farming practices of the U.S. midwest building up to the Dust Bowl. China's killing of birds all over China in the middle of last century because they thought they ate crops, followed by insect plauges that did eat crops. We can be so stupid with simple Mass solutions. Now we have massive computer technology to simulate some of these systems, we should before we embark on large scale projects that could have large scale effects (remember the butterfly effect, a small change here can have a big change somewhere else, like a pin prick on a ballon, small action big reaction, our climate is going through some stresses now, the number of species alive is dwindling, rain forrests are disapearing. Oh lets just go out and harvest some free energy in from the Oceans, the fish won't mind.</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Dumb, really Dumb to go into things with a blindfold on. or start a project as a large project.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Greed , its all about greed .
How can we get something for nothing .
In this case energy .
If any project steals energy from the waves , the whole eco-system and energy system is changed .
What 's at stake , fisheries , the gulf stream , the weather , whatever interacts with that energy system currently .
I doubt that anyone has done extensive research on what the effects might be except on the bottom line .
The ones that will make the money off this one are certainly selling it.Lets see , I think cutting down the Cedars of Lebanon were a good example that triggered the desertification of parts of the Middle East .
The bad farming practices of the U.S. midwest building up to the Dust Bowl .
China 's killing of birds all over China in the middle of last century because they thought they ate crops , followed by insect plauges that did eat crops .
We can be so stupid with simple Mass solutions .
Now we have massive computer technology to simulate some of these systems , we should before we embark on large scale projects that could have large scale effects ( remember the butterfly effect , a small change here can have a big change somewhere else , like a pin prick on a ballon , small action big reaction , our climate is going through some stresses now , the number of species alive is dwindling , rain forrests are disapearing .
Oh lets just go out and harvest some free energy in from the Oceans , the fish wo n't mind .
    Dumb , really Dumb to go into things with a blindfold on .
or start a project as a large project .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Greed, its all about greed.
How can we get something for nothing.
In this case energy.
If any project steals energy from the waves, the whole eco-system and energy system is changed.
What's at stake, fisheries, the gulf stream, the weather, whatever interacts with that energy system currently.
I doubt that anyone has done extensive research on what the effects might be except on the bottom line.
The ones that will make the money off this one are certainly selling it.Lets see, I think cutting down the Cedars of Lebanon were a good example that triggered the desertification of parts of the Middle East.
The bad farming practices of the U.S. midwest building up to the Dust Bowl.
China's killing of birds all over China in the middle of last century because they thought they ate crops, followed by insect plauges that did eat crops.
We can be so stupid with simple Mass solutions.
Now we have massive computer technology to simulate some of these systems, we should before we embark on large scale projects that could have large scale effects (remember the butterfly effect, a small change here can have a big change somewhere else, like a pin prick on a ballon, small action big reaction, our climate is going through some stresses now, the number of species alive is dwindling, rain forrests are disapearing.
Oh lets just go out and harvest some free energy in from the Oceans, the fish won't mind.
    Dumb, really Dumb to go into things with a blindfold on.
or start a project as a large project.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505142</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268764080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We sometimes forget just how heavy water is, or how much energy ocean waves carry.</p><p>Some time ago, I did some statistical analysis of wave heights in Scapa Flow, not far away from the site proposed here in northern Scottish waters. It has very steady, large swells.</p><p>Imagine a wave (or swell) of 10m peak height, extending 2 km across, and 50m front-to-back. That's a nice 0.3 * 10^6 kg of water<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... move it forward at 30kph<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... repeat every 10 or 20 seconds, and you've got 10^9 Joules/second, about 1GW. For the surface wave. (More energy is transferred more steadily by sub-surface currents.)</p><p>Lunar tidal flows are so much larger than these that the prospect of drawing enough energy from open waters to do anything to earth - moon movements seem to be off by many orders of magnitude.</p><p>Full disclosure: I used to be a pretty good physicist, but that was a long time ago.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We sometimes forget just how heavy water is , or how much energy ocean waves carry.Some time ago , I did some statistical analysis of wave heights in Scapa Flow , not far away from the site proposed here in northern Scottish waters .
It has very steady , large swells.Imagine a wave ( or swell ) of 10m peak height , extending 2 km across , and 50m front-to-back .
That 's a nice 0.3 * 10 ^ 6 kg of water ... move it forward at 30kph ... repeat every 10 or 20 seconds , and you 've got 10 ^ 9 Joules/second , about 1GW .
For the surface wave .
( More energy is transferred more steadily by sub-surface currents .
) Lunar tidal flows are so much larger than these that the prospect of drawing enough energy from open waters to do anything to earth - moon movements seem to be off by many orders of magnitude.Full disclosure : I used to be a pretty good physicist , but that was a long time ago .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We sometimes forget just how heavy water is, or how much energy ocean waves carry.Some time ago, I did some statistical analysis of wave heights in Scapa Flow, not far away from the site proposed here in northern Scottish waters.
It has very steady, large swells.Imagine a wave (or swell) of 10m peak height, extending 2 km across, and 50m front-to-back.
That's a nice 0.3 * 10^6 kg of water ... move it forward at 30kph ... repeat every 10 or 20 seconds, and you've got 10^9 Joules/second, about 1GW.
For the surface wave.
(More energy is transferred more steadily by sub-surface currents.
)Lunar tidal flows are so much larger than these that the prospect of drawing enough energy from open waters to do anything to earth - moon movements seem to be off by many orders of magnitude.Full disclosure: I used to be a pretty good physicist, but that was a long time ago.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505736</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268818080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I doubt it will be a problem, since waves slamming into the headland probably has the same effect but on a bigger scale...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt it will be a problem , since waves slamming into the headland probably has the same effect but on a bigger scale.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt it will be a problem, since waves slamming into the headland probably has the same effect but on a bigger scale...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31510450</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>pclminion</author>
	<datestamp>1268848020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>The force of gravity between the earth and the moon is roughly 2*10^20 newtons. Moving the moon 10 meters further from the earth would take over 10^13 Joules of energy</em> </p><p>I think you're missing a "few" orders of magnitude there... 2*10^20 N over 10 meters is 2*10^<b>21</b> J. 10^13 J is an absolutely wimpy amount of energy -- humanity consumes that much every couple of seconds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The force of gravity between the earth and the moon is roughly 2 * 10 ^ 20 newtons .
Moving the moon 10 meters further from the earth would take over 10 ^ 13 Joules of energy I think you 're missing a " few " orders of magnitude there... 2 * 10 ^ 20 N over 10 meters is 2 * 10 ^ 21 J .
10 ^ 13 J is an absolutely wimpy amount of energy -- humanity consumes that much every couple of seconds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The force of gravity between the earth and the moon is roughly 2*10^20 newtons.
Moving the moon 10 meters further from the earth would take over 10^13 Joules of energy I think you're missing a "few" orders of magnitude there... 2*10^20 N over 10 meters is 2*10^21 J.
10^13 J is an absolutely wimpy amount of energy -- humanity consumes that much every couple of seconds.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31508398</id>
	<title>Re: Stray Ships</title>
	<author>baker\_tony</author>
	<datestamp>1268840400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean tidal power could be used to sink ships!? Sounds like terrorism to me, I say halt production of them if they could be used for terrorism!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean tidal power could be used to sink ships ! ?
Sounds like terrorism to me , I say halt production of them if they could be used for terrorism !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean tidal power could be used to sink ships!?
Sounds like terrorism to me, I say halt production of them if they could be used for terrorism!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504458</id>
	<title>They're missing some....</title>
	<author>HBoar</author>
	<datestamp>1268755680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The aim is to generate 1.2 gigawatts</p> </div><p>I think they'll find they need another 10MW to achieve what they're really after....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The aim is to generate 1.2 gigawatts I think they 'll find they need another 10MW to achieve what they 're really after... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The aim is to generate 1.2 gigawatts I think they'll find they need another 10MW to achieve what they're really after....
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504616</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>HBoar</author>
	<datestamp>1268757240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Surely you mean move toward our planet?  In any case, I imagine the energy required to shift the moons orbit any significant amount would be rather astronomical..... can someone be bothered calculating it out?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Surely you mean move toward our planet ?
In any case , I imagine the energy required to shift the moons orbit any significant amount would be rather astronomical..... can someone be bothered calculating it out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Surely you mean move toward our planet?
In any case, I imagine the energy required to shift the moons orbit any significant amount would be rather astronomical..... can someone be bothered calculating it out?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504584</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>benjamindees</author>
	<datestamp>1268756940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what it will be like for those humans, a million years from now, when they realize that the moon is crashing into the earth because their great-great-great-great-etc uncles needed more electricity to post on slashdot.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what it will be like for those humans , a million years from now , when they realize that the moon is crashing into the earth because their great-great-great-great-etc uncles needed more electricity to post on slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what it will be like for those humans, a million years from now, when they realize that the moon is crashing into the earth because their great-great-great-great-etc uncles needed more electricity to post on slashdot.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504992</id>
	<title>Re:Tsunamis!</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1268761920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>More likely: they might "generate" localized calm-ish zones and be magnets for debris.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More likely : they might " generate " localized calm-ish zones and be magnets for debris .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More likely: they might "generate" localized calm-ish zones and be magnets for debris.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31507904</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>tarius8105</author>
	<datestamp>1268838240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It will create a rip in space and time where sean william scott will be the new messiah. We will also switch our dependence on oil to something called Fluid Karma.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It will create a rip in space and time where sean william scott will be the new messiah .
We will also switch our dependence on oil to something called Fluid Karma .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It will create a rip in space and time where sean william scott will be the new messiah.
We will also switch our dependence on oil to something called Fluid Karma.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31508626</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>dpilot</author>
	<datestamp>1268841240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're being funny, (I hope) but I might more seriously wonder about other side-effects.  Way back when they were looking at a tidal energy project at the Bay of Fundy, when hydraulic modeling showed that harnessing that tidal energy would have the "side effect" of flooding Boston.  I hope they've done such modeling for this.  Now that I think of it, with greater computer power available, I wonder if they could examine variations on the Bay of Fundy project to find a way to get the energy without flooding Boston.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're being funny , ( I hope ) but I might more seriously wonder about other side-effects .
Way back when they were looking at a tidal energy project at the Bay of Fundy , when hydraulic modeling showed that harnessing that tidal energy would have the " side effect " of flooding Boston .
I hope they 've done such modeling for this .
Now that I think of it , with greater computer power available , I wonder if they could examine variations on the Bay of Fundy project to find a way to get the energy without flooding Boston .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're being funny, (I hope) but I might more seriously wonder about other side-effects.
Way back when they were looking at a tidal energy project at the Bay of Fundy, when hydraulic modeling showed that harnessing that tidal energy would have the "side effect" of flooding Boston.
I hope they've done such modeling for this.
Now that I think of it, with greater computer power available, I wonder if they could examine variations on the Bay of Fundy project to find a way to get the energy without flooding Boston.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505458</id>
	<title>We'd best keep seaQuest DSV nearby!</title>
	<author>zero\_out</author>
	<datestamp>1268856420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It has already been documented that any undersea turbines will cause too much heat, crack the Earth's crust, and cause the polar ice caps to melt.  We'd best keep the seaQuest DSV nearby to stop it when it happens!</p><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher\_Power\_(seaQuest\_DSV)" title="wikipedia.org">Higher Power (seaQuest DSV)</a> [wikipedia.org] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It has already been documented that any undersea turbines will cause too much heat , crack the Earth 's crust , and cause the polar ice caps to melt .
We 'd best keep the seaQuest DSV nearby to stop it when it happens !
Higher Power ( seaQuest DSV ) [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It has already been documented that any undersea turbines will cause too much heat, crack the Earth's crust, and cause the polar ice caps to melt.
We'd best keep the seaQuest DSV nearby to stop it when it happens!
Higher Power (seaQuest DSV) [wikipedia.org] </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504796</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268759040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You've been moderated as funny but you sound crazy and serious.</p><p>The moon causes tides. The tides don't cause the moon to stay in orbit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 've been moderated as funny but you sound crazy and serious.The moon causes tides .
The tides do n't cause the moon to stay in orbit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You've been moderated as funny but you sound crazy and serious.The moon causes tides.
The tides don't cause the moon to stay in orbit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505884</id>
	<title>Re:The trouble with Scotland</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268820180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It won't last; they're are natural enemies. Like Englishmen and Scots. Or Welshmen and Scots. Or Japanese and Scots. Or Scots and other Scots. Damn Scots, they ruined Scotland!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" It wo n't last ; they 're are natural enemies .
Like Englishmen and Scots .
Or Welshmen and Scots .
Or Japanese and Scots .
Or Scots and other Scots .
Damn Scots , they ruined Scotland !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It won't last; they're are natural enemies.
Like Englishmen and Scots.
Or Welshmen and Scots.
Or Japanese and Scots.
Or Scots and other Scots.
Damn Scots, they ruined Scotland!
"</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505042</id>
	<title>Re:Transmission</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268762580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Where's this power going to?  Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW?</p></div><p>I'd suggest that the point isn't that this is an *extra* 600MW, but a replacement...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's this power going to ?
Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW ? I 'd suggest that the point is n't that this is an * extra * 600MW , but a replacement.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's this power going to?
Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW?I'd suggest that the point isn't that this is an *extra* 600MW, but a replacement...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504624</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506510</id>
	<title>Log Throwing</title>
	<author>syntap</author>
	<datestamp>1268827920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure it was so smart deploying a device of that design right off the coast of the country they chose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure it was so smart deploying a device of that design right off the coast of the country they chose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure it was so smart deploying a device of that design right off the coast of the country they chose.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505664</id>
	<title>Re:Transmission</title>
	<author>drsquare</author>
	<datestamp>1268817060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Where's this power going to? Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW? Orkney's in the middle of ^*$&amp;ing nowhere.</p></div></blockquote><p>No, they're just going to fire the electricity into the air. They have no plans to actually deliver and sell it. You see, people who invest in this sort of thing simply hate money.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's this power going to ?
Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW ?
Orkney 's in the middle of ^ * $ &amp;ing nowhere.No , they 're just going to fire the electricity into the air .
They have no plans to actually deliver and sell it .
You see , people who invest in this sort of thing simply hate money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's this power going to?
Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW?
Orkney's in the middle of ^*$&amp;ing nowhere.No, they're just going to fire the electricity into the air.
They have no plans to actually deliver and sell it.
You see, people who invest in this sort of thing simply hate money.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504624</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505542</id>
	<title>The Saudi Arabia of tidal energy ?</title>
	<author>vikingpower</author>
	<datestamp>1268858340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, I can already imagine a Scotsman with a thickly rolling "r" in a limousine with blackened windows, going to Qatar or Abu Dhabi to spend his billions. "Yes mate, I am frrrrrom Scotland. Wave sheikh, you know. At home on ya old Orrrrrkneys. Waiter ! Twenty morrre bottles of champagnes forrrr my wives, please !"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , I can already imagine a Scotsman with a thickly rolling " r " in a limousine with blackened windows , going to Qatar or Abu Dhabi to spend his billions .
" Yes mate , I am frrrrrom Scotland .
Wave sheikh , you know .
At home on ya old Orrrrrkneys .
Waiter !
Twenty morrre bottles of champagnes forrrr my wives , please !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, I can already imagine a Scotsman with a thickly rolling "r" in a limousine with blackened windows, going to Qatar or Abu Dhabi to spend his billions.
"Yes mate, I am frrrrrom Scotland.
Wave sheikh, you know.
At home on ya old Orrrrrkneys.
Waiter !
Twenty morrre bottles of champagnes forrrr my wives, please !
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506422</id>
	<title>Re:Transmission</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1268826540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.nationalgrid.com/uk/LandandDevelopment/DDC/GasElectricNW/" title="nationalgrid.com">Here</a> [nationalgrid.com] is a map of England and Wales' high-voltage electricity grid, but I'm not sure if it's complete for Scotland. It extends to Orkney, anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here [ nationalgrid.com ] is a map of England and Wales ' high-voltage electricity grid , but I 'm not sure if it 's complete for Scotland .
It extends to Orkney , anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here [nationalgrid.com] is a map of England and Wales' high-voltage electricity grid, but I'm not sure if it's complete for Scotland.
It extends to Orkney, anyway.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504624</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504614</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268757180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The force of gravity between the earth and the moon is roughly 2*10^20 newtons. Moving the moon 10 meters further from the earth would take over 10^13 Joules of energy (and that only accounts for the change in gravitational potential).</p><p>Furthermore, the rotation of the earth is already causing us to loose the moon at a rate of about 3 cm per year. If we were to reduce tide to the point where the ocean did not fluctuate at all, perhaps we wouldn't loose the moon in 1000000 years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The force of gravity between the earth and the moon is roughly 2 * 10 ^ 20 newtons .
Moving the moon 10 meters further from the earth would take over 10 ^ 13 Joules of energy ( and that only accounts for the change in gravitational potential ) .Furthermore , the rotation of the earth is already causing us to loose the moon at a rate of about 3 cm per year .
If we were to reduce tide to the point where the ocean did not fluctuate at all , perhaps we would n't loose the moon in 1000000 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The force of gravity between the earth and the moon is roughly 2*10^20 newtons.
Moving the moon 10 meters further from the earth would take over 10^13 Joules of energy (and that only accounts for the change in gravitational potential).Furthermore, the rotation of the earth is already causing us to loose the moon at a rate of about 3 cm per year.
If we were to reduce tide to the point where the ocean did not fluctuate at all, perhaps we wouldn't loose the moon in 1000000 years.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504484</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505232</id>
	<title>LFTR</title>
	<author>RudyHartmann</author>
	<datestamp>1268765700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All other means of energy production will not be able to compete with a Liquid Fluorine Thorium Reactor. Maybe if they ever figure out fusion. But they'll probably have to go to the moon to mine Helium 3 to make that work and Obama is death on NASA.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LFTR" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LFTR</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>All other means of energy production will not be able to compete with a Liquid Fluorine Thorium Reactor .
Maybe if they ever figure out fusion .
But they 'll probably have to go to the moon to mine Helium 3 to make that work and Obama is death on NASA .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LFTR [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All other means of energy production will not be able to compete with a Liquid Fluorine Thorium Reactor.
Maybe if they ever figure out fusion.
But they'll probably have to go to the moon to mine Helium 3 to make that work and Obama is death on NASA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LFTR [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31516758</id>
	<title>Re:Transmission</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1268827260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, the Reverse Lightning Project.  We'll show those clouds who's boss!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , the Reverse Lightning Project .
We 'll show those clouds who 's boss !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, the Reverse Lightning Project.
We'll show those clouds who's boss!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506960</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>jimbolauski</author>
	<datestamp>1268832180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What happens is that the moon pulls water towards itself (tides) then because the earth is spinning the tides are actually ahead of the moon which in turn pull the moon around the earth faster causing to get further away.  So employing this would keep the moon where it is longer.  Also the moon has a gyroscopic effect on earth and with out is earth's wobble would be more significant.  So doing this would keep the moon around a little longer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What happens is that the moon pulls water towards itself ( tides ) then because the earth is spinning the tides are actually ahead of the moon which in turn pull the moon around the earth faster causing to get further away .
So employing this would keep the moon where it is longer .
Also the moon has a gyroscopic effect on earth and with out is earth 's wobble would be more significant .
So doing this would keep the moon around a little longer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happens is that the moon pulls water towards itself (tides) then because the earth is spinning the tides are actually ahead of the moon which in turn pull the moon around the earth faster causing to get further away.
So employing this would keep the moon where it is longer.
Also the moon has a gyroscopic effect on earth and with out is earth's wobble would be more significant.
So doing this would keep the moon around a little longer.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504484</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504640</id>
	<title>It figures</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1268757420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>If it involves messing around with waves, there's usually a
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James\_Clerk\_Maxwell" title="wikipedia.org">Scottsman</a> [wikipedia.org] involved somehow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it involves messing around with waves , there 's usually a Scottsman [ wikipedia.org ] involved somehow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it involves messing around with waves, there's usually a
Scottsman [wikipedia.org] involved somehow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504572</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>fabioalcor</author>
	<datestamp>1268756760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, it's just periodically call a lot of people for a jump day in the beaches all over the world...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , it 's just periodically call a lot of people for a jump day in the beaches all over the world.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, it's just periodically call a lot of people for a jump day in the beaches all over the world...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504484</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504780</id>
	<title>Re:They're missing some....</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1268758920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We're givin' her all she's got, cap'n!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 're givin ' her all she 's got , cap'n !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We're givin' her all she's got, cap'n!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504712</id>
	<title>We Are Swimming in Clean Energy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268758140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lots and lots of it. A new analysis of the causality of motion reveals that Aristotle was right to insist that inertial motion needs a cause and that, as a result, normal matter is immersed in an immense lattice of energetic particles, without which motion would be impossible. Soon, we will use this knowledge to create technologies that will allow us to tap into the lattice for energy production and super fast transportation. Floating sky cities, New York to Beijing in minutes, Earth to Mars in hours! That's real the future of energy and transportation. Almost every other form of energy production (waves, fossil fuel, geothermal, solar, wind, etc.) and transportation (cars, airplanes, jets, rockets, boats, trains, etc.) will become obsolete. Even normal walking will become rare.</p><p>Read <a href="http://rebelscience.blogspot.com/2009/09/physics-problem-with-motion-part-i.html" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Physics: The Problem with Motion</a> [blogspot.com] if you're interested in the real future of energy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lots and lots of it .
A new analysis of the causality of motion reveals that Aristotle was right to insist that inertial motion needs a cause and that , as a result , normal matter is immersed in an immense lattice of energetic particles , without which motion would be impossible .
Soon , we will use this knowledge to create technologies that will allow us to tap into the lattice for energy production and super fast transportation .
Floating sky cities , New York to Beijing in minutes , Earth to Mars in hours !
That 's real the future of energy and transportation .
Almost every other form of energy production ( waves , fossil fuel , geothermal , solar , wind , etc .
) and transportation ( cars , airplanes , jets , rockets , boats , trains , etc .
) will become obsolete .
Even normal walking will become rare.Read Physics : The Problem with Motion [ blogspot.com ] if you 're interested in the real future of energy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lots and lots of it.
A new analysis of the causality of motion reveals that Aristotle was right to insist that inertial motion needs a cause and that, as a result, normal matter is immersed in an immense lattice of energetic particles, without which motion would be impossible.
Soon, we will use this knowledge to create technologies that will allow us to tap into the lattice for energy production and super fast transportation.
Floating sky cities, New York to Beijing in minutes, Earth to Mars in hours!
That's real the future of energy and transportation.
Almost every other form of energy production (waves, fossil fuel, geothermal, solar, wind, etc.
) and transportation (cars, airplanes, jets, rockets, boats, trains, etc.
) will become obsolete.
Even normal walking will become rare.Read Physics: The Problem with Motion [blogspot.com] if you're interested in the real future of energy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504698</id>
	<title>Re:They're missing some....</title>
	<author>Cryacin</author>
	<datestamp>1268758020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Also don't forget the difficultly of moving the whole tidal generator at 88mph!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also do n't forget the difficultly of moving the whole tidal generator at 88mph !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also don't forget the difficultly of moving the whole tidal generator at 88mph!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504458</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506702</id>
	<title>Re:The trouble with Scotland</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268829780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not really.  We will be cheering on Algeria, Slovenia and USA in the world cup in June, and if that fails, we will have some more countries to cheer on.  In the case of the USA, it wouldn't surpise me if there are more Scottish fans cheering on the team than natives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not really .
We will be cheering on Algeria , Slovenia and USA in the world cup in June , and if that fails , we will have some more countries to cheer on .
In the case of the USA , it would n't surpise me if there are more Scottish fans cheering on the team than natives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not really.
We will be cheering on Algeria, Slovenia and USA in the world cup in June, and if that fails, we will have some more countries to cheer on.
In the case of the USA, it wouldn't surpise me if there are more Scottish fans cheering on the team than natives.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505358</id>
	<title>Re:Tsunamis!</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1268767980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, I for one, do not want to be accused of accelerating climate change <i>and</i> continental drift.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , I for one , do not want to be accused of accelerating climate change and continental drift .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, I for one, do not want to be accused of accelerating climate change and continental drift.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504428</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504612</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>dbIII</author>
	<datestamp>1268757180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm confused about the motivations behind that "big question" post.<br>Are you being serious but incredibly badly informed there, attempting a joke, or have some ulterior motive to attempt to influence the gullible?<br>If you are being serious I suggest going down to the seaside and look at the waves hitting a big fucking cliff and consider how much energy is being tranferred there.<br>If you are joking is it a dig at climate change being postulated to alter things on your perfect, unchanging 6000 year old earth?  Things are changing no matter how much you want to make fun of anyone with a clue.<br>If you are attempting to influence the gullible then feel free to assume that I'm directing the worst insults you can think of in your direction.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm confused about the motivations behind that " big question " post.Are you being serious but incredibly badly informed there , attempting a joke , or have some ulterior motive to attempt to influence the gullible ? If you are being serious I suggest going down to the seaside and look at the waves hitting a big fucking cliff and consider how much energy is being tranferred there.If you are joking is it a dig at climate change being postulated to alter things on your perfect , unchanging 6000 year old earth ?
Things are changing no matter how much you want to make fun of anyone with a clue.If you are attempting to influence the gullible then feel free to assume that I 'm directing the worst insults you can think of in your direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm confused about the motivations behind that "big question" post.Are you being serious but incredibly badly informed there, attempting a joke, or have some ulterior motive to attempt to influence the gullible?If you are being serious I suggest going down to the seaside and look at the waves hitting a big fucking cliff and consider how much energy is being tranferred there.If you are joking is it a dig at climate change being postulated to alter things on your perfect, unchanging 6000 year old earth?
Things are changing no matter how much you want to make fun of anyone with a clue.If you are attempting to influence the gullible then feel free to assume that I'm directing the worst insults you can think of in your direction.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504484</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504742</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268758560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's BadAnalogyGuy...<br>
<br>
You must be new here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's BadAnalogyGuy.. . You must be new here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's BadAnalogyGuy...

You must be new here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504612</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506452</id>
	<title>If it's not Scottish Wave Energy...</title>
	<author>zawarski</author>
	<datestamp>1268827200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>...it's crap!</htmltext>
<tokenext>...it 's crap !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...it's crap!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505098</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1268763360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They'll probably think of us as insensitive clods...</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 'll probably think of us as insensitive clods.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They'll probably think of us as insensitive clods...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504584</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31508550</id>
	<title>Re:Tsunamis!</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1268841000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That WAS causing earthquakes? The nyt link didn't load for me even when I allowed scripts, I guess the NYT is dead to me. But I live near to The Geysers and they're still pumping shit into the ground, we're still more seismically active than without the shit-pumping, and they're still paying out claims for people with earthquake damage on Cobb mountain. I was relieved when they cancelled the plan to do their experimental drilling here, of the type that caused major seismic activity elsewhere. We really don't need more. We get so many that we can now identify them, at least to the major Richter value.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That WAS causing earthquakes ?
The nyt link did n't load for me even when I allowed scripts , I guess the NYT is dead to me .
But I live near to The Geysers and they 're still pumping shit into the ground , we 're still more seismically active than without the shit-pumping , and they 're still paying out claims for people with earthquake damage on Cobb mountain .
I was relieved when they cancelled the plan to do their experimental drilling here , of the type that caused major seismic activity elsewhere .
We really do n't need more .
We get so many that we can now identify them , at least to the major Richter value .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That WAS causing earthquakes?
The nyt link didn't load for me even when I allowed scripts, I guess the NYT is dead to me.
But I live near to The Geysers and they're still pumping shit into the ground, we're still more seismically active than without the shit-pumping, and they're still paying out claims for people with earthquake damage on Cobb mountain.
I was relieved when they cancelled the plan to do their experimental drilling here, of the type that caused major seismic activity elsewhere.
We really don't need more.
We get so many that we can now identify them, at least to the major Richter value.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504624</id>
	<title>Transmission</title>
	<author>moosesocks</author>
	<datestamp>1268757300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where's this power going to?  Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW?  Orkney's in the middle of ^*$&amp;ing nowhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where 's this power going to ?
Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW ?
Orkney 's in the middle of ^ * $ &amp;ing nowhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where's this power going to?
Is there a transmission grid in place to take it to a populated area that could use an extra 600MW?
Orkney's in the middle of ^*$&amp;ing nowhere.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505472</id>
	<title>Do any of the devices work?</title>
	<author>heffrey</author>
	<datestamp>1268856660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since the most advanced device, pelamis, appears not to work at all this all seems moot right now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since the most advanced device , pelamis , appears not to work at all this all seems moot right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since the most advanced device, pelamis, appears not to work at all this all seems moot right now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505146</id>
	<title>Stray Ships</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268764080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>         I do wonder how ships disabled in storms can be handled in such a way to assure that wind farms are not destroyed. I live in an area where hurricanes strike quite frequently and even in calmer seas we end up with tankers stranded on our beaches all too often.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do wonder how ships disabled in storms can be handled in such a way to assure that wind farms are not destroyed .
I live in an area where hurricanes strike quite frequently and even in calmer seas we end up with tankers stranded on our beaches all too often .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>         I do wonder how ships disabled in storms can be handled in such a way to assure that wind farms are not destroyed.
I live in an area where hurricanes strike quite frequently and even in calmer seas we end up with tankers stranded on our beaches all too often.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504830</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1268759520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The moon is moving away. We only have 600 million more years before there will be no more total solar eclipses.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The moon is moving away .
We only have 600 million more years before there will be no more total solar eclipses .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The moon is moving away.
We only have 600 million more years before there will be no more total solar eclipses.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505972</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268821200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think you should switch to decaff for a while</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think you should switch to decaff for a while</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think you should switch to decaff for a while</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506174</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268823300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You calculated the kinetic energy of a mass of water moving forward at 30kph. In a wave water is not moving forward at the wave speed, but rather gently in an elliptic trajectory. I gather you used 10m as amplitude and not crest to through height.</p><p>The energy flux of waves is given by the formula which you can find on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave\_power" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">this wikipedia page</a> [wikipedia.org]. A 20m (crest to through) wave with a period of 10s over a lenght of 50m gives you 20MW of wave energy. Still a lot, but almost 2 orders of magnitude less than 1GW.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You calculated the kinetic energy of a mass of water moving forward at 30kph .
In a wave water is not moving forward at the wave speed , but rather gently in an elliptic trajectory .
I gather you used 10m as amplitude and not crest to through height.The energy flux of waves is given by the formula which you can find on this wikipedia page [ wikipedia.org ] .
A 20m ( crest to through ) wave with a period of 10s over a lenght of 50m gives you 20MW of wave energy .
Still a lot , but almost 2 orders of magnitude less than 1GW .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You calculated the kinetic energy of a mass of water moving forward at 30kph.
In a wave water is not moving forward at the wave speed, but rather gently in an elliptic trajectory.
I gather you used 10m as amplitude and not crest to through height.The energy flux of waves is given by the formula which you can find on this wikipedia page [wikipedia.org].
A 20m (crest to through) wave with a period of 10s over a lenght of 50m gives you 20MW of wave energy.
Still a lot, but almost 2 orders of magnitude less than 1GW.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504494</id>
	<title>Should have an advantage over wind..</title>
	<author>jcr</author>
	<datestamp>1268755980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems to me that in some parts of the world, you'd never see the ocean completely flat.  Should be far more reliable than wind power.</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems to me that in some parts of the world , you 'd never see the ocean completely flat .
Should be far more reliable than wind power.-jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems to me that in some parts of the world, you'd never see the ocean completely flat.
Should be far more reliable than wind power.-jcr</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505294</id>
	<title>Re:They're missing some....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's 21.1 JIGGA-watts you insensitive clod!</p><p>Don't you know the dewey-decimal system?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's 21.1 JIGGA-watts you insensitive clod ! Do n't you know the dewey-decimal system ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's 21.1 JIGGA-watts you insensitive clod!Don't you know the dewey-decimal system?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504484</id>
	<title>The big question</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1268755920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Removing this energy from the ocean may cause an imbalance in the gravitational effects between the Earth and the Moon. Well, not imbalance, but rather a rebalance.</p><p>If we cause the Moon to move away from our planet, we lose both our astrodebris sweeper and more importantly our tide maker. Anthropogenic effects are real, and I'm not sure I'm happy to see the deliberate removal of energy from the ocean without further study on longterm planetary effects.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Removing this energy from the ocean may cause an imbalance in the gravitational effects between the Earth and the Moon .
Well , not imbalance , but rather a rebalance.If we cause the Moon to move away from our planet , we lose both our astrodebris sweeper and more importantly our tide maker .
Anthropogenic effects are real , and I 'm not sure I 'm happy to see the deliberate removal of energy from the ocean without further study on longterm planetary effects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Removing this energy from the ocean may cause an imbalance in the gravitational effects between the Earth and the Moon.
Well, not imbalance, but rather a rebalance.If we cause the Moon to move away from our planet, we lose both our astrodebris sweeper and more importantly our tide maker.
Anthropogenic effects are real, and I'm not sure I'm happy to see the deliberate removal of energy from the ocean without further study on longterm planetary effects.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31505622</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Z34107</author>
	<datestamp>1268816460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mods are on crack.  That deserves a +5 troll, because <i>that</i> was the most successful troll I've seen... well, in a few days.  But still, a hearty chuckle ye brought me, Bad Analogy Guy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mods are on crack .
That deserves a + 5 troll , because that was the most successful troll I 've seen... well , in a few days .
But still , a hearty chuckle ye brought me , Bad Analogy Guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mods are on crack.
That deserves a +5 troll, because that was the most successful troll I've seen... well, in a few days.
But still, a hearty chuckle ye brought me, Bad Analogy Guy.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506590</id>
	<title>Re:Transmission</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268828760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dounreay nuclear power station is just across the water.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dounreay nuclear power station is just across the water .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dounreay nuclear power station is just across the water.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31504428</id>
	<title>Tsunamis!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268755320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hope this turns out better than the geothermal energy that was causing earthquakes.<br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/business/energy-environment/24geotherm.html" title="nytimes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/business/energy-environment/24geotherm.html</a> [nytimes.com]</p><p>But I jest, this is a step in the right direction.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope this turns out better than the geothermal energy that was causing earthquakes.http : //www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/business/energy-environment/24geotherm.html [ nytimes.com ] But I jest , this is a step in the right direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope this turns out better than the geothermal energy that was causing earthquakes.http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/business/energy-environment/24geotherm.html [nytimes.com]But I jest, this is a step in the right direction.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31506236</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>Jayman2</author>
	<datestamp>1268824020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny, but almost correct! There are indeed <a href="http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=marine+renewable+energy+ocean+circulation+effect&amp;hl=en&amp;as\_sdt=0&amp;as\_vis=1&amp;oi=scholart" title="google.co.uk" rel="nofollow">studies</a> [google.co.uk] of the effect on ocean circulation being conducted to look at the effect of plonking a big turbine into a strong tidal force<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny , but almost correct !
There are indeed studies [ google.co.uk ] of the effect on ocean circulation being conducted to look at the effect of plonking a big turbine into a strong tidal force : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny, but almost correct!
There are indeed studies [google.co.uk] of the effect on ocean circulation being conducted to look at the effect of plonking a big turbine into a strong tidal force :)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_17_0120253.31507354</id>
	<title>Re:The big question</title>
	<author>BrentH</author>
	<datestamp>1268835300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're saying slashdotters will have kids now? Nonsense. The moon will crash into the sea before that happens.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're saying slashdotters will have kids now ?
Nonsense. The moon will crash into the sea before that happens .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're saying slashdotters will have kids now?
Nonsense. The moon will crash into the sea before that happens.</sentencetext>
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