<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_16_1719250</id>
	<title>Microsoft Previews IE9 &mdash; HTML5, SVG, Fast JS</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1268761440000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>suraj.sun sends this excerpt from CNET on Microsoft's <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685\_3-20000433-264.html">preview of IE9</a> in Las Vegas just now. <i>"At its Mix 10 conference Tuesday, Microsoft gave programmers, Web developers, and the world at large a taste of things to come with its Web browser. Specifically, Microsoft released what it's calling the <a href="http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/">Internet Explorer 9 Platform Preview</a>, a prototype designed to show off the company's effort to improve how the browser deals with the Web as it exists today and, as important, to add support for new Web technologies that are coming right now. Coming in the new version is support for new Web standards including plug-in-free video; better performance with graphics, text, and JavaSript by taking advantage of modern computing hardware. One big change in the JavaScript engine Hachamovitch is proud of is its multicore support. As soon as a Web page is loaded, Chakra assigns a processing core to the task of compiling JavaScript in the background into fast code written in the native language of the computer's processor."</i> Microsoft didn't say what codec they were using for the HTML5 video demo, but the Technologizer says <a href="http://technologizer.com/2010/03/16/ie9-platform-preview/">it's H.264</a>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>suraj.sun sends this excerpt from CNET on Microsoft 's preview of IE9 in Las Vegas just now .
" At its Mix 10 conference Tuesday , Microsoft gave programmers , Web developers , and the world at large a taste of things to come with its Web browser .
Specifically , Microsoft released what it 's calling the Internet Explorer 9 Platform Preview , a prototype designed to show off the company 's effort to improve how the browser deals with the Web as it exists today and , as important , to add support for new Web technologies that are coming right now .
Coming in the new version is support for new Web standards including plug-in-free video ; better performance with graphics , text , and JavaSript by taking advantage of modern computing hardware .
One big change in the JavaScript engine Hachamovitch is proud of is its multicore support .
As soon as a Web page is loaded , Chakra assigns a processing core to the task of compiling JavaScript in the background into fast code written in the native language of the computer 's processor .
" Microsoft did n't say what codec they were using for the HTML5 video demo , but the Technologizer says it 's H.264 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>suraj.sun sends this excerpt from CNET on Microsoft's preview of IE9 in Las Vegas just now.
"At its Mix 10 conference Tuesday, Microsoft gave programmers, Web developers, and the world at large a taste of things to come with its Web browser.
Specifically, Microsoft released what it's calling the Internet Explorer 9 Platform Preview, a prototype designed to show off the company's effort to improve how the browser deals with the Web as it exists today and, as important, to add support for new Web technologies that are coming right now.
Coming in the new version is support for new Web standards including plug-in-free video; better performance with graphics, text, and JavaSript by taking advantage of modern computing hardware.
One big change in the JavaScript engine Hachamovitch is proud of is its multicore support.
As soon as a Web page is loaded, Chakra assigns a processing core to the task of compiling JavaScript in the background into fast code written in the native language of the computer's processor.
" Microsoft didn't say what codec they were using for the HTML5 video demo, but the Technologizer says it's H.264.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498710</id>
	<title>Nice try with ACID3, Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268765760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"(There&rsquo;s a pause when the score gets to 39 but the test will continue after a few seconds.)"</p><p>That's a fail then, irrespective of the score. The test explicitly states smooth animation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ( There    s a pause when the score gets to 39 but the test will continue after a few seconds .
) " That 's a fail then , irrespective of the score .
The test explicitly states smooth animation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"(There’s a pause when the score gets to 39 but the test will continue after a few seconds.
)"That's a fail then, irrespective of the score.
The test explicitly states smooth animation.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500210</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1268771640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Anyone who knows anything about browsers is already using Firefox or Chrome or Opera, and anyone who knows nothing about browsers is using whatever came pre-installed on their computers..."</p><p>Just being picky here, but I know about browsers AND use (by choice) the browser (Safari) that came with my computer. They all (Chrome, FF, Safari, Opera) have their pluses and minuses, and as a web developer I use them all, but I vastly <em>prefer</em> Safari over the others for regular use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Anyone who knows anything about browsers is already using Firefox or Chrome or Opera , and anyone who knows nothing about browsers is using whatever came pre-installed on their computers... " Just being picky here , but I know about browsers AND use ( by choice ) the browser ( Safari ) that came with my computer .
They all ( Chrome , FF , Safari , Opera ) have their pluses and minuses , and as a web developer I use them all , but I vastly prefer Safari over the others for regular use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Anyone who knows anything about browsers is already using Firefox or Chrome or Opera, and anyone who knows nothing about browsers is using whatever came pre-installed on their computers..."Just being picky here, but I know about browsers AND use (by choice) the browser (Safari) that came with my computer.
They all (Chrome, FF, Safari, Opera) have their pluses and minuses, and as a web developer I use them all, but I vastly prefer Safari over the others for regular use.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498642</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498806</id>
	<title>MS Messes stuff up again...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unsupported Event Type: DOMContentLoaded  Internal Line 0  Character 0</p><p>HAHAHA</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unsupported Event Type : DOMContentLoaded Internal Line 0 Character 0HAHAHA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unsupported Event Type: DOMContentLoaded  Internal Line 0  Character 0HAHAHA</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499382</id>
	<title>SVG Finally</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268768220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am most interested in how well IE9 implements SVG.  I know many developers have waited eagerly for the day SVG is supported in the most popular Web browsers. It looks like that day may finally arrive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am most interested in how well IE9 implements SVG .
I know many developers have waited eagerly for the day SVG is supported in the most popular Web browsers .
It looks like that day may finally arrive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am most interested in how well IE9 implements SVG.
I know many developers have waited eagerly for the day SVG is supported in the most popular Web browsers.
It looks like that day may finally arrive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31502554</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>ashridah</author>
	<datestamp>1268739960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, it's mainly just because there's been several tech conferences, two of which were run by MS in the past few months.</p><p>First, we had PDC'09, where a bunch of stuff was announced, and a bunch of CTPs and Betas were released or technology demoed.<br>Then we had GDC last week, where some windows phone stuff was demoed.<br>Then we had MIX, where windows phone, silverlight 4, XNA 4, ie9, and other assorted things were demoed.</p><p>It's just a tech-rich season. *shrug*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , it 's mainly just because there 's been several tech conferences , two of which were run by MS in the past few months.First , we had PDC'09 , where a bunch of stuff was announced , and a bunch of CTPs and Betas were released or technology demoed.Then we had GDC last week , where some windows phone stuff was demoed.Then we had MIX , where windows phone , silverlight 4 , XNA 4 , ie9 , and other assorted things were demoed.It 's just a tech-rich season .
* shrug *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, it's mainly just because there's been several tech conferences, two of which were run by MS in the past few months.First, we had PDC'09, where a bunch of stuff was announced, and a bunch of CTPs and Betas were released or technology demoed.Then we had GDC last week, where some windows phone stuff was demoed.Then we had MIX, where windows phone, silverlight 4, XNA 4, ie9, and other assorted things were demoed.It's just a tech-rich season.
*shrug*</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498918</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am actually quite impressed with the amount of good feedback I've had from friends and relatives when I've done a PC repair/clean/rebuild for them.</p><p>I've taken the attitude with them that if I fix stuff for them free-of-charge then I don't want to have them come back again in a hurry.</p><p>This means they get the following:</p><p>- Firefox installed with a few good addons like Adblock, Xmarks (if they've more than 1 PC so they can sync bookmarks) and Flashgot</p><p>- If they have Norton or McAfee installed, I ask their permission to remove it and tell them not to renew their licenses; in place go AVG Anti-Virus and Spybot S&amp;D for adware defence</p><p>- With their permission, replace hooky copies of MS Office &amp; Photoshop with OpenOffice and GIMP</p><p>- Show them how to use CCleaner and set MyDefrag to be running once or twice a week</p><p>I've been amazed at the number of people who have come back and told me how trouble-free their PCs have been as a result.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am actually quite impressed with the amount of good feedback I 've had from friends and relatives when I 've done a PC repair/clean/rebuild for them.I 've taken the attitude with them that if I fix stuff for them free-of-charge then I do n't want to have them come back again in a hurry.This means they get the following : - Firefox installed with a few good addons like Adblock , Xmarks ( if they 've more than 1 PC so they can sync bookmarks ) and Flashgot- If they have Norton or McAfee installed , I ask their permission to remove it and tell them not to renew their licenses ; in place go AVG Anti-Virus and Spybot S&amp;D for adware defence- With their permission , replace hooky copies of MS Office &amp; Photoshop with OpenOffice and GIMP- Show them how to use CCleaner and set MyDefrag to be running once or twice a weekI 've been amazed at the number of people who have come back and told me how trouble-free their PCs have been as a result .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am actually quite impressed with the amount of good feedback I've had from friends and relatives when I've done a PC repair/clean/rebuild for them.I've taken the attitude with them that if I fix stuff for them free-of-charge then I don't want to have them come back again in a hurry.This means they get the following:- Firefox installed with a few good addons like Adblock, Xmarks (if they've more than 1 PC so they can sync bookmarks) and Flashgot- If they have Norton or McAfee installed, I ask their permission to remove it and tell them not to renew their licenses; in place go AVG Anti-Virus and Spybot S&amp;D for adware defence- With their permission, replace hooky copies of MS Office &amp; Photoshop with OpenOffice and GIMP- Show them how to use CCleaner and set MyDefrag to be running once or twice a weekI've been amazed at the number of people who have come back and told me how trouble-free their PCs have been as a result.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498642</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498832</id>
	<title>Holy shit</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1268766180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had to stare at the headline for like 5 seconds before it even parsed. It just didn't seem like a reasonable configuration of words.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had to stare at the headline for like 5 seconds before it even parsed .
It just did n't seem like a reasonable configuration of words .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had to stare at the headline for like 5 seconds before it even parsed.
It just didn't seem like a reasonable configuration of words.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499680</id>
	<title>Webkit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268769420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Standards are one thing. It's fine if you have a different rendering engine. But when it comes to bugs, it's best (from a Quality Assurance perspective) to have a single product, and not be fragmented like crazy.</p><p>Implement webkit, Microsoft. If Microsoft was really "Developers, developers, developers,  developers, developers,  developers, developers,  developers, developers", then it would also be, "webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Standards are one thing .
It 's fine if you have a different rendering engine .
But when it comes to bugs , it 's best ( from a Quality Assurance perspective ) to have a single product , and not be fragmented like crazy.Implement webkit , Microsoft .
If Microsoft was really " Developers , developers , developers , developers , developers , developers , developers , developers , developers " , then it would also be , " webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit , webkit .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Standards are one thing.
It's fine if you have a different rendering engine.
But when it comes to bugs, it's best (from a Quality Assurance perspective) to have a single product, and not be fragmented like crazy.Implement webkit, Microsoft.
If Microsoft was really "Developers, developers, developers,  developers, developers,  developers, developers,  developers, developers", then it would also be, "webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit, webkit.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500244</id>
	<title>Re:Nice try with ACID3, Microsoft</title>
	<author>Randle\_Revar</author>
	<datestamp>1268771820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>On Linux, Opera 10.50 and Chrome 5 dev look the same to me on the Acid 3 test</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>On Linux , Opera 10.50 and Chrome 5 dev look the same to me on the Acid 3 test</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On Linux, Opera 10.50 and Chrome 5 dev look the same to me on the Acid 3 test</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499122</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501920</id>
	<title>Bahhh...</title>
	<author>ScottyMcScott</author>
	<datestamp>1268736480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>no xp support.</htmltext>
<tokenext>no xp support .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>no xp support.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31506336</id>
	<title>Re:plug-in-free video?</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1268825160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"If I made decisions at Microsoft, that's how I'd do it."</p><p>Totally, I would too. In fact, I'd mandate that all employees murder a baby and kick a puppy each day too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" If I made decisions at Microsoft , that 's how I 'd do it .
" Totally , I would too .
In fact , I 'd mandate that all employees murder a baby and kick a puppy each day too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"If I made decisions at Microsoft, that's how I'd do it.
"Totally, I would too.
In fact, I'd mandate that all employees murder a baby and kick a puppy each day too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498774</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503136</id>
	<title>Compability view</title>
	<author>haeger</author>
	<datestamp>1268743560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Will the new version of IE still have the compability view in it?<br>A web app that is being used at a clients site requires separate sessions and my fear is that the compability vew which is the one thing that has saved us in IE8 will actually disappear in future versions. Anyone have information about that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Will the new version of IE still have the compability view in it ? A web app that is being used at a clients site requires separate sessions and my fear is that the compability vew which is the one thing that has saved us in IE8 will actually disappear in future versions .
Anyone have information about that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Will the new version of IE still have the compability view in it?A web app that is being used at a clients site requires separate sessions and my fear is that the compability vew which is the one thing that has saved us in IE8 will actually disappear in future versions.
Anyone have information about that?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500510</id>
	<title>After 11 years, SVG support in IE</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268772840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After 11 years, IE finally has SVG support??? could it be true?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After 11 years , IE finally has SVG support ? ? ?
could it be true ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After 11 years, IE finally has SVG support???
could it be true?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498920</id>
	<title>Standard compliance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So with all of the nifty, new stuff they are finally compliant, right? I mean no more body {text-align: center;} instead of body { margin: 0px auto; } to center a fixed width layout, right?</p><p>I'm sure anyone else who needs to output HTML would love it if MS would just fix their damned browser. Then they can look at adding new features. Or better yet, just drop Trident and replace it with WebKit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So with all of the nifty , new stuff they are finally compliant , right ?
I mean no more body { text-align : center ; } instead of body { margin : 0px auto ; } to center a fixed width layout , right ? I 'm sure anyone else who needs to output HTML would love it if MS would just fix their damned browser .
Then they can look at adding new features .
Or better yet , just drop Trident and replace it with WebKit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So with all of the nifty, new stuff they are finally compliant, right?
I mean no more body {text-align: center;} instead of body { margin: 0px auto; } to center a fixed width layout, right?I'm sure anyone else who needs to output HTML would love it if MS would just fix their damned browser.
Then they can look at adding new features.
Or better yet, just drop Trident and replace it with WebKit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500196</id>
	<title>Re:The real question...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268771580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and the answer is;</p><p>It does if Uncle Steve has decided that's good for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and the answer is ; It does if Uncle Steve has decided that 's good for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and the answer is;It does if Uncle Steve has decided that's good for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498716</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503102</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>lanner</author>
	<datestamp>1268743380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod this guy to the front page.  Stop the Microsoft vaporware news-ads that have been running lately.  AFTER Microsoft has released the product, then you can call it news.  Microsoft deserves the reputation that they built for themselves well over a decade:  Vaporware, FUD, over-promise under-deliver.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod this guy to the front page .
Stop the Microsoft vaporware news-ads that have been running lately .
AFTER Microsoft has released the product , then you can call it news .
Microsoft deserves the reputation that they built for themselves well over a decade : Vaporware , FUD , over-promise under-deliver .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod this guy to the front page.
Stop the Microsoft vaporware news-ads that have been running lately.
AFTER Microsoft has released the product, then you can call it news.
Microsoft deserves the reputation that they built for themselves well over a decade:  Vaporware, FUD, over-promise under-deliver.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500350</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>jim\_v2000</author>
	<datestamp>1268772180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, if they make a quick, customizable browser, they can stop people from switching and maybe even coax some users back from other browsers.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , if they make a quick , customizable browser , they can stop people from switching and maybe even coax some users back from other browsers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, if they make a quick, customizable browser, they can stop people from switching and maybe even coax some users back from other browsers.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498642</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31506198</id>
	<title>YAY! Finally!</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268823540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is a big day for web developers and the www as a whole! Something I didn&rsquo;t think would ever happen.<br>Of course we still have to check if they added deliberate incompatibilities to do their dirty EEE work. (If they don&rsquo;t, I will <em>not</em> not acknowledge their work, just because it&rsquo;s MS.)</p><p>But apart from that, this will finally mean full steam ahead for all the cool new features!</p><p>Remember that without the Mozilla team, and Firefox, this would never have happened. Ever!<br>So thank you, thank you, thank <em>you</em>, every single one who worked to make Firefox so frightening that it woke the big dinosaur!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is a big day for web developers and the www as a whole !
Something I didn    t think would ever happen.Of course we still have to check if they added deliberate incompatibilities to do their dirty EEE work .
( If they don    t , I will not not acknowledge their work , just because it    s MS. ) But apart from that , this will finally mean full steam ahead for all the cool new features ! Remember that without the Mozilla team , and Firefox , this would never have happened .
Ever ! So thank you , thank you , thank you , every single one who worked to make Firefox so frightening that it woke the big dinosaur !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is a big day for web developers and the www as a whole!
Something I didn’t think would ever happen.Of course we still have to check if they added deliberate incompatibilities to do their dirty EEE work.
(If they don’t, I will not not acknowledge their work, just because it’s MS.)But apart from that, this will finally mean full steam ahead for all the cool new features!Remember that without the Mozilla team, and Firefox, this would never have happened.
Ever!So thank you, thank you, thank you, every single one who worked to make Firefox so frightening that it woke the big dinosaur!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500168</id>
	<title>Re:So... what is the catch?</title>
	<author>Randle\_Revar</author>
	<datestamp>1268771460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; releasing IE9 for EVERY single windows version from 98 on so that everyone can finally switch?</p><p>Don't be absurd. IE9  fundamentally requires features that don't exist in XP, much less in an OS whose *extended* support ended four years. IE9 would not be able to deliver it's speed and security features without Vista-era OS features. And no other modern, mainstream browser supports 98 (Opera 10.x apparently does run on 98, but it is not a supported OS (2k is), Safari and Chrome require XP, but can be made to run on 2k, FF requires 2k).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; releasing IE9 for EVERY single windows version from 98 on so that everyone can finally switch ? Do n't be absurd .
IE9 fundamentally requires features that do n't exist in XP , much less in an OS whose * extended * support ended four years .
IE9 would not be able to deliver it 's speed and security features without Vista-era OS features .
And no other modern , mainstream browser supports 98 ( Opera 10.x apparently does run on 98 , but it is not a supported OS ( 2k is ) , Safari and Chrome require XP , but can be made to run on 2k , FF requires 2k ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; releasing IE9 for EVERY single windows version from 98 on so that everyone can finally switch?Don't be absurd.
IE9  fundamentally requires features that don't exist in XP, much less in an OS whose *extended* support ended four years.
IE9 would not be able to deliver it's speed and security features without Vista-era OS features.
And no other modern, mainstream browser supports 98 (Opera 10.x apparently does run on 98, but it is not a supported OS (2k is), Safari and Chrome require XP, but can be made to run on 2k, FF requires 2k).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498826</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31502710</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>Nicolay77</author>
	<datestamp>1268740920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nothing new.  Just read this:</p><p><a href="http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/57261/" title="lxer.com">http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/57261/</a> [lxer.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html" title="joelonsoftware.com">http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html</a> [joelonsoftware.com]</p><p>And spread the news to other newbies!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nothing new .
Just read this : http : //lxer.com/module/newswire/view/57261/ [ lxer.com ] http : //www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html [ joelonsoftware.com ] And spread the news to other newbies !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nothing new.
Just read this:http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/57261/ [lxer.com]http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000339.html [joelonsoftware.com]And spread the news to other newbies!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498886</id>
	<title>New Javascript Record</title>
	<author>K-Man</author>
	<datestamp>1268766300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This should be able to serve over 2000 popunder ads per second.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This should be able to serve over 2000 popunder ads per second .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This should be able to serve over 2000 popunder ads per second.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501826</id>
	<title>LOL</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268736180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Microsoft adds support for Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis, I'll eat my hat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Microsoft adds support for Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis , I 'll eat my hat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Microsoft adds support for Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis, I'll eat my hat.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500460</id>
	<title>H.264</title>
	<author>camcorder</author>
	<datestamp>1268772600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course they will support (most probably) only H.264. Microsoft is one of those in patent pool of <a href="http://www.mpegla.com/main/programs/AVC/Pages/Licensors.aspx" title="mpegla.com">MPEG-LA</a> [mpegla.com] for AVC.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course they will support ( most probably ) only H.264 .
Microsoft is one of those in patent pool of MPEG-LA [ mpegla.com ] for AVC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course they will support (most probably) only H.264.
Microsoft is one of those in patent pool of MPEG-LA [mpegla.com] for AVC.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499104</id>
	<title>Re:Now THAT is Inovation</title>
	<author>kpainter</author>
	<datestamp>1268767140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is part of Microsoft's continuing initiative to clean up the menu bar by removing stuff.  I bet in its final form, this baby won't have any buttons at all!  The way you will navigate is open up notepad and type out the URL.  Then, you will simply mark the text and drag and drop into the new streamlined interface.  Pretty slick, huh?</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is part of Microsoft 's continuing initiative to clean up the menu bar by removing stuff .
I bet in its final form , this baby wo n't have any buttons at all !
The way you will navigate is open up notepad and type out the URL .
Then , you will simply mark the text and drag and drop into the new streamlined interface .
Pretty slick , huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is part of Microsoft's continuing initiative to clean up the menu bar by removing stuff.
I bet in its final form, this baby won't have any buttons at all!
The way you will navigate is open up notepad and type out the URL.
Then, you will simply mark the text and drag and drop into the new streamlined interface.
Pretty slick, huh?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498670</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501422</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>Lennie</author>
	<datestamp>1268734020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Their won't be an IE9 for XP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Their wo n't be an IE9 for XP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Their won't be an IE9 for XP.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498642</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498582</id>
	<title>H.264</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268765280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course it's H.264. That's the superior standard! And by superior I mean it allows a superior level of control over the once free and open Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course it 's H.264 .
That 's the superior standard !
And by superior I mean it allows a superior level of control over the once free and open Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course it's H.264.
That's the superior standard!
And by superior I mean it allows a superior level of control over the once free and open Internet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498642</id>
	<title>Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>Sparkycat</author>
	<datestamp>1268765520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's great and all, but Microsoft isn't competing with other browsers for market share, it's competing with its own older browsers. Anyone who knows anything about browsers is already using Firefox or Chrome or Opera, and anyone who knows nothing about browsers is using whatever came pre-installed on their computers:</p><p>IE6 if they're still on XP, Safari if they have a Mac, or IE 8 if they're running Windows 7.</p><p>Unless this is a mandatory upgrade to IE 8, it's not going to gain any ground.</p><p>And of course, the 30\% of users still using IE6 will continue to do so until their computers die, or a techie relative replace it with Firefox.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's great and all , but Microsoft is n't competing with other browsers for market share , it 's competing with its own older browsers .
Anyone who knows anything about browsers is already using Firefox or Chrome or Opera , and anyone who knows nothing about browsers is using whatever came pre-installed on their computers : IE6 if they 're still on XP , Safari if they have a Mac , or IE 8 if they 're running Windows 7.Unless this is a mandatory upgrade to IE 8 , it 's not going to gain any ground.And of course , the 30 \ % of users still using IE6 will continue to do so until their computers die , or a techie relative replace it with Firefox .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's great and all, but Microsoft isn't competing with other browsers for market share, it's competing with its own older browsers.
Anyone who knows anything about browsers is already using Firefox or Chrome or Opera, and anyone who knows nothing about browsers is using whatever came pre-installed on their computers:IE6 if they're still on XP, Safari if they have a Mac, or IE 8 if they're running Windows 7.Unless this is a mandatory upgrade to IE 8, it's not going to gain any ground.And of course, the 30\% of users still using IE6 will continue to do so until their computers die, or a techie relative replace it with Firefox.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499328</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1268768040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I follow the same philosophy - Except I probably wouldn't even offer to replace Photoshop with Gimp - if they shelled out the money for PS already, its worth having.</p><p>Then I tell them about my "First Ones Free Policy". Which is exactly how it sounds. The first one I clear all their Malware off and set them up on more secure standards. If they somehow manage to catch something then - Thats when I start charging by the hour.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I follow the same philosophy - Except I probably would n't even offer to replace Photoshop with Gimp - if they shelled out the money for PS already , its worth having.Then I tell them about my " First Ones Free Policy " .
Which is exactly how it sounds .
The first one I clear all their Malware off and set them up on more secure standards .
If they somehow manage to catch something then - Thats when I start charging by the hour .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I follow the same philosophy - Except I probably wouldn't even offer to replace Photoshop with Gimp - if they shelled out the money for PS already, its worth having.Then I tell them about my "First Ones Free Policy".
Which is exactly how it sounds.
The first one I clear all their Malware off and set them up on more secure standards.
If they somehow manage to catch something then - Thats when I start charging by the hour.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499478</id>
	<title>Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268768640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know this is going to sound trollish, but hear me out.</p><p>I can't be the only one noticing that there is a recent upswing in what I'd call Microsoft "prototype news."  All the blogs are full of Win Mobile 7 System Phone (or whatever they are calling it...), something called Courier that's probably vaporware, Natal, and now IE enhancements that aren't quite done yet.  It feels to me like Microsoft shifted a good chunk of change into marketing for some reason.</p><p>It kind of feels like they are saying "Oh, don't look at that, we'll have something soon..."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know this is going to sound trollish , but hear me out.I ca n't be the only one noticing that there is a recent upswing in what I 'd call Microsoft " prototype news .
" All the blogs are full of Win Mobile 7 System Phone ( or whatever they are calling it... ) , something called Courier that 's probably vaporware , Natal , and now IE enhancements that are n't quite done yet .
It feels to me like Microsoft shifted a good chunk of change into marketing for some reason.It kind of feels like they are saying " Oh , do n't look at that , we 'll have something soon... "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know this is going to sound trollish, but hear me out.I can't be the only one noticing that there is a recent upswing in what I'd call Microsoft "prototype news.
"  All the blogs are full of Win Mobile 7 System Phone (or whatever they are calling it...), something called Courier that's probably vaporware, Natal, and now IE enhancements that aren't quite done yet.
It feels to me like Microsoft shifted a good chunk of change into marketing for some reason.It kind of feels like they are saying "Oh, don't look at that, we'll have something soon..."</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498778</id>
	<title>XHTML?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268765940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, some of those pages are XHTML.  Aren't those not viewable in IE7 and IE8?  Is XHTML going to be supported in IE9?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , some of those pages are XHTML .
Are n't those not viewable in IE7 and IE8 ?
Is XHTML going to be supported in IE9 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, some of those pages are XHTML.
Aren't those not viewable in IE7 and IE8?
Is XHTML going to be supported in IE9?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31504120</id>
	<title>I ran some of the tests in Chrome and IE 9</title>
	<author>MHolmesIV</author>
	<datestamp>1268752440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The ones on the <a href="http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">preview page</a> [microsoft.com]. From what I understood, MS was saying that JS performance is not the entire story for Browser performance, and a couple of their tests make it abundantly clear. I ran the "Flying images" test, and IE whipped chrome by rendering the animation about 20 times faster, even when I increased the number of objects to ridiculous amounts.</p><p>It doesn't matter how fast your Javascript engine is if your renderer is old and busted. A faster renderer should improve page load times as well as animations. It'll be interesting to see some of the real-world based tests on this new engine.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The ones on the preview page [ microsoft.com ] .
From what I understood , MS was saying that JS performance is not the entire story for Browser performance , and a couple of their tests make it abundantly clear .
I ran the " Flying images " test , and IE whipped chrome by rendering the animation about 20 times faster , even when I increased the number of objects to ridiculous amounts.It does n't matter how fast your Javascript engine is if your renderer is old and busted .
A faster renderer should improve page load times as well as animations .
It 'll be interesting to see some of the real-world based tests on this new engine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The ones on the preview page [microsoft.com].
From what I understood, MS was saying that JS performance is not the entire story for Browser performance, and a couple of their tests make it abundantly clear.
I ran the "Flying images" test, and IE whipped chrome by rendering the animation about 20 times faster, even when I increased the number of objects to ridiculous amounts.It doesn't matter how fast your Javascript engine is if your renderer is old and busted.
A faster renderer should improve page load times as well as animations.
It'll be interesting to see some of the real-world based tests on this new engine.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499976</id>
	<title>Canvas Tag</title>
	<author>cwt137</author>
	<datestamp>1268770620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>With IE9 supporting HTML5, will that mean they will support the canvas tag too? Or do we have to wait for IE10?</htmltext>
<tokenext>With IE9 supporting HTML5 , will that mean they will support the canvas tag too ?
Or do we have to wait for IE10 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With IE9 supporting HTML5, will that mean they will support the canvas tag too?
Or do we have to wait for IE10?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500568</id>
	<title>Umm</title>
	<author>jav1231</author>
	<datestamp>1268773140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Okay so they use the browser to tap other resources for more power to inflate the speed of the browser. And this is a good thing? Give me a more efficient browser that's leaner and meaner. IE9 tapping more CPU and GPU power is like saying, "By multiplying the number of engines in this school bus we were eventually able to match speeds of those normally associated with sports cars."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay so they use the browser to tap other resources for more power to inflate the speed of the browser .
And this is a good thing ?
Give me a more efficient browser that 's leaner and meaner .
IE9 tapping more CPU and GPU power is like saying , " By multiplying the number of engines in this school bus we were eventually able to match speeds of those normally associated with sports cars .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Okay so they use the browser to tap other resources for more power to inflate the speed of the browser.
And this is a good thing?
Give me a more efficient browser that's leaner and meaner.
IE9 tapping more CPU and GPU power is like saying, "By multiplying the number of engines in this school bus we were eventually able to match speeds of those normally associated with sports cars.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499898</id>
	<title>Re:Now THAT is Inovation</title>
	<author>qbast</author>
	<datestamp>1268770200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Shhhh! GNOME devs may be listening.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Shhhh !
GNOME devs may be listening .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shhhh!
GNOME devs may be listening.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499104</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498826</id>
	<title>So... what is the catch?</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1268766120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The demo looks good so far, but I know my MS, there is an angle. There always is. Some subtle way in which they screw it up. Royally. There must be. They have done it for over two decades. No ways after 8 major versions and several minor ones are they suddenly going to play nice.
</p><p>Paranoid? It ain't paranoia if they are out to get you.
</p><p>They seem to be really honest this time about following standards, admitting they are not there yet and that it is time they did... so where is the closed source proprietary crap you just know MS is going to insist on adding.
</p><p>A while ago someone asked on a forum, what would it take to use a linux library for accessing MS services. And I said there was nothing they could do. No, opensourcing it wouldn't do it, because I know MS has in the past done that and then later added closed source extensions you couldn't get on anything but windows.
</p><p>And before you mod me down, if Blair/Bush (in holland this doesn't apply, Bakellende is after 4 failed goverments still available for re-election) said they were sorry, they knew what they did wrong, know what to do know to fix everything and all they ask is for another chance, would you give it?
</p><p>Lets face it, they knew since version 6 that they had created a beast that to this day and for years to come haunts them. And version 7 was a beast and version 8 was a beast. So, third time is a charm? This one won't be a beast? I remember when Windows 7 came out: "Oh wow, this is so good, it ain't as crappy as Vista, MS has finally got it." And now slowly the negative is getting out and SP1 is being launched in a rush to deal with all the issues that were overlooked before. IE7 and IE8 were hauled as great improvements on IE6, only for devs to then realize that they were still spending most of their time on getting sites to work with the crappy products of Microsoft.
</p><p>Will IE9 be different? Will it finally have real dev tools? Will it finally respect standards? Will it finally not introduce a thousand new proprietary and conflicting features? Will it finally perform? Will it finally not have a security hole per day that goes unpatched for years? Will it finally render a page coded to standard correctly?
</p><p>And will MS finally do something serious about forcing the upgrade of everyone to IE9? Like MS disabling access to all its own extra services to anyone with an obsolete browser and releasing IE9 for EVERY single windows version from 98 on so that everyone can finally switch?
</p><p>I doubt it. Que the MS apologists who will claim this is finally it. They should be ready, they said it often enough before.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The demo looks good so far , but I know my MS , there is an angle .
There always is .
Some subtle way in which they screw it up .
Royally. There must be .
They have done it for over two decades .
No ways after 8 major versions and several minor ones are they suddenly going to play nice .
Paranoid ? It ai n't paranoia if they are out to get you .
They seem to be really honest this time about following standards , admitting they are not there yet and that it is time they did... so where is the closed source proprietary crap you just know MS is going to insist on adding .
A while ago someone asked on a forum , what would it take to use a linux library for accessing MS services .
And I said there was nothing they could do .
No , opensourcing it would n't do it , because I know MS has in the past done that and then later added closed source extensions you could n't get on anything but windows .
And before you mod me down , if Blair/Bush ( in holland this does n't apply , Bakellende is after 4 failed goverments still available for re-election ) said they were sorry , they knew what they did wrong , know what to do know to fix everything and all they ask is for another chance , would you give it ?
Lets face it , they knew since version 6 that they had created a beast that to this day and for years to come haunts them .
And version 7 was a beast and version 8 was a beast .
So , third time is a charm ?
This one wo n't be a beast ?
I remember when Windows 7 came out : " Oh wow , this is so good , it ai n't as crappy as Vista , MS has finally got it .
" And now slowly the negative is getting out and SP1 is being launched in a rush to deal with all the issues that were overlooked before .
IE7 and IE8 were hauled as great improvements on IE6 , only for devs to then realize that they were still spending most of their time on getting sites to work with the crappy products of Microsoft .
Will IE9 be different ?
Will it finally have real dev tools ?
Will it finally respect standards ?
Will it finally not introduce a thousand new proprietary and conflicting features ?
Will it finally perform ?
Will it finally not have a security hole per day that goes unpatched for years ?
Will it finally render a page coded to standard correctly ?
And will MS finally do something serious about forcing the upgrade of everyone to IE9 ?
Like MS disabling access to all its own extra services to anyone with an obsolete browser and releasing IE9 for EVERY single windows version from 98 on so that everyone can finally switch ?
I doubt it .
Que the MS apologists who will claim this is finally it .
They should be ready , they said it often enough before .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The demo looks good so far, but I know my MS, there is an angle.
There always is.
Some subtle way in which they screw it up.
Royally. There must be.
They have done it for over two decades.
No ways after 8 major versions and several minor ones are they suddenly going to play nice.
Paranoid? It ain't paranoia if they are out to get you.
They seem to be really honest this time about following standards, admitting they are not there yet and that it is time they did... so where is the closed source proprietary crap you just know MS is going to insist on adding.
A while ago someone asked on a forum, what would it take to use a linux library for accessing MS services.
And I said there was nothing they could do.
No, opensourcing it wouldn't do it, because I know MS has in the past done that and then later added closed source extensions you couldn't get on anything but windows.
And before you mod me down, if Blair/Bush (in holland this doesn't apply, Bakellende is after 4 failed goverments still available for re-election) said they were sorry, they knew what they did wrong, know what to do know to fix everything and all they ask is for another chance, would you give it?
Lets face it, they knew since version 6 that they had created a beast that to this day and for years to come haunts them.
And version 7 was a beast and version 8 was a beast.
So, third time is a charm?
This one won't be a beast?
I remember when Windows 7 came out: "Oh wow, this is so good, it ain't as crappy as Vista, MS has finally got it.
" And now slowly the negative is getting out and SP1 is being launched in a rush to deal with all the issues that were overlooked before.
IE7 and IE8 were hauled as great improvements on IE6, only for devs to then realize that they were still spending most of their time on getting sites to work with the crappy products of Microsoft.
Will IE9 be different?
Will it finally have real dev tools?
Will it finally respect standards?
Will it finally not introduce a thousand new proprietary and conflicting features?
Will it finally perform?
Will it finally not have a security hole per day that goes unpatched for years?
Will it finally render a page coded to standard correctly?
And will MS finally do something serious about forcing the upgrade of everyone to IE9?
Like MS disabling access to all its own extra services to anyone with an obsolete browser and releasing IE9 for EVERY single windows version from 98 on so that everyone can finally switch?
I doubt it.
Que the MS apologists who will claim this is finally it.
They should be ready, they said it often enough before.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499458</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft should stop</title>
	<author>PylonHead</author>
	<datestamp>1268768580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a web developer, I'm really glad that every version of IE has been more standards compliant than the last.</p><p>It would be nice if the everyone magically installed FireFox or Safari or Chrome, but that doesn't seem to have happened yet.</p><p>Our best hope for killing off older versions of IE is newer versions of IE and an automatic upgrade path.</p><p>Frankly 8 doesn't seem that bad to me.  Most of my code just works with IE 8.  I'm really excited about HTML 5 and SVG in IE 9.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a web developer , I 'm really glad that every version of IE has been more standards compliant than the last.It would be nice if the everyone magically installed FireFox or Safari or Chrome , but that does n't seem to have happened yet.Our best hope for killing off older versions of IE is newer versions of IE and an automatic upgrade path.Frankly 8 does n't seem that bad to me .
Most of my code just works with IE 8 .
I 'm really excited about HTML 5 and SVG in IE 9 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a web developer, I'm really glad that every version of IE has been more standards compliant than the last.It would be nice if the everyone magically installed FireFox or Safari or Chrome, but that doesn't seem to have happened yet.Our best hope for killing off older versions of IE is newer versions of IE and an automatic upgrade path.Frankly 8 doesn't seem that bad to me.
Most of my code just works with IE 8.
I'm really excited about HTML 5 and SVG in IE 9.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498848</id>
	<title>Market Share</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage\_share\_of\_web\_browsers" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">According to Wikipedia</a> [wikipedia.org], IE (all versions) is now less than 55\% market share. Judging by the current pace, IE (all versions) will drop below 50\% market share within 6 months. If they weren't paying much attention to other vendors 5 years ago, they most certainly are now.</p><p>IE dropping below 50\% market share is a big milestone for the web, since MS will no longer hold the theoretical "majority vote" concerning web standards and web technology.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>According to Wikipedia [ wikipedia.org ] , IE ( all versions ) is now less than 55 \ % market share .
Judging by the current pace , IE ( all versions ) will drop below 50 \ % market share within 6 months .
If they were n't paying much attention to other vendors 5 years ago , they most certainly are now.IE dropping below 50 \ % market share is a big milestone for the web , since MS will no longer hold the theoretical " majority vote " concerning web standards and web technology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>According to Wikipedia [wikipedia.org], IE (all versions) is now less than 55\% market share.
Judging by the current pace, IE (all versions) will drop below 50\% market share within 6 months.
If they weren't paying much attention to other vendors 5 years ago, they most certainly are now.IE dropping below 50\% market share is a big milestone for the web, since MS will no longer hold the theoretical "majority vote" concerning web standards and web technology.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498860</id>
	<title>Re:Nice try with ACID3, Microsoft</title>
	<author>HamSammy</author>
	<datestamp>1268766240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And Chrome ran the test in 2 seconds on an old pc; 100/100, perfect rendering and smooth.

At least they're acknowledging standards<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>And Chrome ran the test in 2 seconds on an old pc ; 100/100 , perfect rendering and smooth .
At least they 're acknowledging standards : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Chrome ran the test in 2 seconds on an old pc; 100/100, perfect rendering and smooth.
At least they're acknowledging standards :P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31502222</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>Spliffster</author>
	<datestamp>1268738100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It kind of feels like they are saying "Oh, don't look at that, we'll have something soon..."</p></div><p>This has been the modus operandi of microsoft since when<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the nineties, eighties? I can't remeber.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It kind of feels like they are saying " Oh , do n't look at that , we 'll have something soon... " This has been the modus operandi of microsoft since when ... the nineties , eighties ?
I ca n't remeber .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It kind of feels like they are saying "Oh, don't look at that, we'll have something soon..."This has been the modus operandi of microsoft since when ... the nineties, eighties?
I can't remeber.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499122</id>
	<title>Re:Nice try with ACID3, Microsoft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268767200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;&gt;&gt;The test explicitly states smooth animation.</p><p>If I recall correctly, Opera 10 does the same thing - passes the ACID3 but fails the test requirement for smoothness.  (Maybe they fixed it in later 10.1 or 10.5 releases?  Don't know.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; &gt; &gt; The test explicitly states smooth animation.If I recall correctly , Opera 10 does the same thing - passes the ACID3 but fails the test requirement for smoothness .
( Maybe they fixed it in later 10.1 or 10.5 releases ?
Do n't know .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;&gt;&gt;The test explicitly states smooth animation.If I recall correctly, Opera 10 does the same thing - passes the ACID3 but fails the test requirement for smoothness.
(Maybe they fixed it in later 10.1 or 10.5 releases?
Don't know.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500240</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>abigsmurf</author>
	<datestamp>1268771820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Companies sometimes talk about products they plan to release in the future so people are informed and excited when the product hits the shelves. More at 9!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Companies sometimes talk about products they plan to release in the future so people are informed and excited when the product hits the shelves .
More at 9 !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Companies sometimes talk about products they plan to release in the future so people are informed and excited when the product hits the shelves.
More at 9!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503542</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>Korin43</author>
	<datestamp>1268746800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Unfortunately, the closest thing to a browser my OS comes with is wget and cat, and unfortunately, cat's standards compliance is spotty at best.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately , the closest thing to a browser my OS comes with is wget and cat , and unfortunately , cat 's standards compliance is spotty at best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unfortunately, the closest thing to a browser my OS comes with is wget and cat, and unfortunately, cat's standards compliance is spotty at best.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500210</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503010</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>cbhacking</author>
	<datestamp>1268742660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You could just, you know, go *download* it. I mean the link is right there in TFS! Here, have link to the actual download site itself if you want:http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/info/ThankYou/Default.html</p><p>Not a full browser by any means, but the rending is a big step up from IE8 and I expect it will continue to improve.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You could just , you know , go * download * it .
I mean the link is right there in TFS !
Here , have link to the actual download site itself if you want : http : //ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/info/ThankYou/Default.htmlNot a full browser by any means , but the rending is a big step up from IE8 and I expect it will continue to improve .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You could just, you know, go *download* it.
I mean the link is right there in TFS!
Here, have link to the actual download site itself if you want:http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/info/ThankYou/Default.htmlNot a full browser by any means, but the rending is a big step up from IE8 and I expect it will continue to improve.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499478</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499826</id>
	<title>Re:first comment!</title>
	<author>K. S. Kyosuke</author>
	<datestamp>1268769960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's the newest version of the Microsoft's web browser, also known as Internet Explorer. However, due to the increased Internet standards compliance and for marketing reasons, the successor to Internet Explorer 8 (IE 8) won't be called Internet Explorer 9 (IE 9), but rather Internet-Compliant Explorer 9.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the newest version of the Microsoft 's web browser , also known as Internet Explorer .
However , due to the increased Internet standards compliance and for marketing reasons , the successor to Internet Explorer 8 ( IE 8 ) wo n't be called Internet Explorer 9 ( IE 9 ) , but rather Internet-Compliant Explorer 9 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the newest version of the Microsoft's web browser, also known as Internet Explorer.
However, due to the increased Internet standards compliance and for marketing reasons, the successor to Internet Explorer 8 (IE 8) won't be called Internet Explorer 9 (IE 9), but rather Internet-Compliant Explorer 9.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498568</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499116</id>
	<title>Re:Nice try with ACID3, Microsoft</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1268767200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Even if you wait, it's 55/100. But the IE9 preview page is upfront about this - it will actually tell that much before it redirects you to Acid3.</p><p>I guess that's why it's called an "early preview", eh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Even if you wait , it 's 55/100 .
But the IE9 preview page is upfront about this - it will actually tell that much before it redirects you to Acid3.I guess that 's why it 's called an " early preview " , eh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even if you wait, it's 55/100.
But the IE9 preview page is upfront about this - it will actually tell that much before it redirects you to Acid3.I guess that's why it's called an "early preview", eh?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498986</id>
	<title>Re:Holy shit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Have you considered cutting down on you intake of drugs?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you considered cutting down on you intake of drugs ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you considered cutting down on you intake of drugs?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499302</id>
	<title>Re:Holy shit</title>
	<author>H0p313ss</author>
	<datestamp>1268767860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I had to stare at the headline for like 5 seconds before it even parsed. It just didn't seem like a reasonable configuration of words.</p></div><p>Next week: GPLed source code to linux drivers for all MS hardware in a GIT repository.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I had to stare at the headline for like 5 seconds before it even parsed .
It just did n't seem like a reasonable configuration of words.Next week : GPLed source code to linux drivers for all MS hardware in a GIT repository .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had to stare at the headline for like 5 seconds before it even parsed.
It just didn't seem like a reasonable configuration of words.Next week: GPLed source code to linux drivers for all MS hardware in a GIT repository.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498832</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498716</id>
	<title>The real question...</title>
	<author>creimer</author>
	<datestamp>1268765760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does it run on the Apple iPad?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run on the Apple iPad ?
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run on the Apple iPad?
:P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498752</id>
	<title>Microsoft should stop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268765880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a web developer, I wish Microsoft would get out of the browser business and stop making terrible "upgrades" to an already terrible browser !  Bugs + Security Flaws + Lack of Standards + (the fact that after 8 versions it's still awefule) = time to think about dropping this whole browser idea, No !?!?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a web developer , I wish Microsoft would get out of the browser business and stop making terrible " upgrades " to an already terrible browser !
Bugs + Security Flaws + Lack of Standards + ( the fact that after 8 versions it 's still awefule ) = time to think about dropping this whole browser idea , No ! ? !
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a web developer, I wish Microsoft would get out of the browser business and stop making terrible "upgrades" to an already terrible browser !
Bugs + Security Flaws + Lack of Standards + (the fact that after 8 versions it's still awefule) = time to think about dropping this whole browser idea, No !?!
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31504034</id>
	<title>Why? Why continue Trident development</title>
	<author>brunes69</author>
	<datestamp>1268751780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can someone please explain to me what Microsoft has to gain by dumping more and more money into Trident?</p><p>Why don't they just adopt WebKit, and add ActiveX support to it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone please explain to me what Microsoft has to gain by dumping more and more money into Trident ? Why do n't they just adopt WebKit , and add ActiveX support to it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone please explain to me what Microsoft has to gain by dumping more and more money into Trident?Why don't they just adopt WebKit, and add ActiveX support to it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500932</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>alvinrod</author>
	<datestamp>1268731740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What else do you expect them to do or talk about?
<br> <br>
By the time IE8 came out and managed to catch up with Firefox, Opera, Safari, and all of the other browsers it was chasing, they had already moved on and further improved performance and standards compliance. IE9 will help bring MS closer to parity again.
<br> <br>
Windows Mobile hasn't been worth talking about since the original iPhone came out and since then both Palm and Google have come out with phone platforms that also blow Microsoft's offerings out of the water.
<br> <br>
They also really don't have an answer to the iPad or Android tablets currently shipping either. The slate computers Balmer talked about at CES are a completely different type of product, which hasn't taken off in the past and doesn't show great signs of doing it in the future. The Courier is their answer to the iPad and other tablet devices. They have nothing right now, but it doesn't hurt to talk about their future offerings.
<br> <br>
Natal (And for that matter, Sony's Move.) are answers to the runaway success of the Wii. 360 and PS3 sales have been fairly similar, whereas the Wii has exploded and looks like it will easily go on to outsell the PS2 and become the best selling console of all time. Makes sense for Microsoft to chase after that.
<br> <br>
Microsoft has nothing in those market spaces worth selling right now. They can build brand excitement by at least talking about their upcoming offerings and if nothing else delay some consumers from purchasing a competitors product. This is pretty much the strategy that worked so well for the company back in the 90's. At least now they're more likely to actually ship a product eventually. I think they've realized that if they keep hyping vaporware, they'll become even less relevant in the tech industry.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What else do you expect them to do or talk about ?
By the time IE8 came out and managed to catch up with Firefox , Opera , Safari , and all of the other browsers it was chasing , they had already moved on and further improved performance and standards compliance .
IE9 will help bring MS closer to parity again .
Windows Mobile has n't been worth talking about since the original iPhone came out and since then both Palm and Google have come out with phone platforms that also blow Microsoft 's offerings out of the water .
They also really do n't have an answer to the iPad or Android tablets currently shipping either .
The slate computers Balmer talked about at CES are a completely different type of product , which has n't taken off in the past and does n't show great signs of doing it in the future .
The Courier is their answer to the iPad and other tablet devices .
They have nothing right now , but it does n't hurt to talk about their future offerings .
Natal ( And for that matter , Sony 's Move .
) are answers to the runaway success of the Wii .
360 and PS3 sales have been fairly similar , whereas the Wii has exploded and looks like it will easily go on to outsell the PS2 and become the best selling console of all time .
Makes sense for Microsoft to chase after that .
Microsoft has nothing in those market spaces worth selling right now .
They can build brand excitement by at least talking about their upcoming offerings and if nothing else delay some consumers from purchasing a competitors product .
This is pretty much the strategy that worked so well for the company back in the 90 's .
At least now they 're more likely to actually ship a product eventually .
I think they 've realized that if they keep hyping vaporware , they 'll become even less relevant in the tech industry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What else do you expect them to do or talk about?
By the time IE8 came out and managed to catch up with Firefox, Opera, Safari, and all of the other browsers it was chasing, they had already moved on and further improved performance and standards compliance.
IE9 will help bring MS closer to parity again.
Windows Mobile hasn't been worth talking about since the original iPhone came out and since then both Palm and Google have come out with phone platforms that also blow Microsoft's offerings out of the water.
They also really don't have an answer to the iPad or Android tablets currently shipping either.
The slate computers Balmer talked about at CES are a completely different type of product, which hasn't taken off in the past and doesn't show great signs of doing it in the future.
The Courier is their answer to the iPad and other tablet devices.
They have nothing right now, but it doesn't hurt to talk about their future offerings.
Natal (And for that matter, Sony's Move.
) are answers to the runaway success of the Wii.
360 and PS3 sales have been fairly similar, whereas the Wii has exploded and looks like it will easily go on to outsell the PS2 and become the best selling console of all time.
Makes sense for Microsoft to chase after that.
Microsoft has nothing in those market spaces worth selling right now.
They can build brand excitement by at least talking about their upcoming offerings and if nothing else delay some consumers from purchasing a competitors product.
This is pretty much the strategy that worked so well for the company back in the 90's.
At least now they're more likely to actually ship a product eventually.
I think they've realized that if they keep hyping vaporware, they'll become even less relevant in the tech industry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499564</id>
	<title>Yes!</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1268768940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The lowest common denominator just moved up a pretty big notch, hooray!</p><p>Why yes I am a web developer, how did you guess?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The lowest common denominator just moved up a pretty big notch , hooray ! Why yes I am a web developer , how did you guess ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The lowest common denominator just moved up a pretty big notch, hooray!Why yes I am a web developer, how did you guess?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500164</id>
	<title>HW accelerated SVG</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268771460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hardware accelerated SVG is pretty big. Qt does this and KDE uses it, but I believe that's a first in any web browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hardware accelerated SVG is pretty big .
Qt does this and KDE uses it , but I believe that 's a first in any web browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hardware accelerated SVG is pretty big.
Qt does this and KDE uses it, but I believe that's a first in any web browser.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503210</id>
	<title>Re:Acid 3 result, 2d performance</title>
	<author>phizi0n</author>
	<datestamp>1268744100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox DOES support D2D+DW for this uber 2D performance, see my post below for help enabling it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox DOES support D2D + DW for this uber 2D performance , see my post below for help enabling it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox DOES support D2D+DW for this uber 2D performance, see my post below for help enabling it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500790</id>
	<title>Direct2D and DirectWrite (GPU Acceleration)</title>
	<author>phizi0n</author>
	<datestamp>1268731140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Firefox already has support for these in the 3.7 prerelease builds. All of the IE9 tests that showcase the benefits of these two API's worked amazingly on my D2D+DW enabled Firefox, while Chrome fell flat. If you're interested in enabling it then see this: <a href="http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&amp;t=1775755" title="mozillazine.org" rel="nofollow">http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&amp;t=1775755</a> [mozillazine.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Firefox already has support for these in the 3.7 prerelease builds .
All of the IE9 tests that showcase the benefits of these two API 's worked amazingly on my D2D + DW enabled Firefox , while Chrome fell flat .
If you 're interested in enabling it then see this : http : //forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php ? f = 23&amp;t = 1775755 [ mozillazine.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Firefox already has support for these in the 3.7 prerelease builds.
All of the IE9 tests that showcase the benefits of these two API's worked amazingly on my D2D+DW enabled Firefox, while Chrome fell flat.
If you're interested in enabling it then see this: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=23&amp;t=1775755 [mozillazine.org]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499858</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft should stop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268770080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can't handle Internet Explorer (= Most popular browser) = time to think about droping the whole web developer idea?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't handle Internet Explorer ( = Most popular browser ) = time to think about droping the whole web developer idea ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't handle Internet Explorer (= Most popular browser) = time to think about droping the whole web developer idea?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501036</id>
	<title>Does it run on the iPad?</title>
	<author>WillAffleckUW</author>
	<datestamp>1268732220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cause if it doesn't, I want no part of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cause if it does n't , I want no part of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cause if it doesn't, I want no part of it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500880</id>
	<title>Re:Increasing speed</title>
	<author>Jazz-Masta</author>
	<datestamp>1268731500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I saw the developer preview, the dropping balls, the flying e's, the super-zoom, all that stuff...</p><p>It reminded me of  and </p><p>Removing the need for plugins and giving native support to all these annoying things is going to be hell - Geocities will be up and running again!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I saw the developer preview , the dropping balls , the flying e 's , the super-zoom , all that stuff...It reminded me of and Removing the need for plugins and giving native support to all these annoying things is going to be hell - Geocities will be up and running again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I saw the developer preview, the dropping balls, the flying e's, the super-zoom, all that stuff...It reminded me of  and Removing the need for plugins and giving native support to all these annoying things is going to be hell - Geocities will be up and running again!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499638</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499446</id>
	<title>Please tell MS to support Ogg Theora/Ogg Vorbis</title>
	<author>dwheeler</author>
	<datestamp>1268768520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Please go to <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/contact.aspx" title="msdn.com">http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/contact.aspx</a> [msdn.com] and ask Microsoft to add support for Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis.  They could add it to the browser, or add support for it to the OS and then have the browser support it.  They can support both H.264 and Ogg if they want to.  For example, there are many sites like Wikipedia which *ONLY* permit Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis for multimedia; without built-in support, IE users have trouble hearing/viewing the content.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Please go to http : //blogs.msdn.com/ie/contact.aspx [ msdn.com ] and ask Microsoft to add support for Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis .
They could add it to the browser , or add support for it to the OS and then have the browser support it .
They can support both H.264 and Ogg if they want to .
For example , there are many sites like Wikipedia which * ONLY * permit Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis for multimedia ; without built-in support , IE users have trouble hearing/viewing the content .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please go to http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/contact.aspx [msdn.com] and ask Microsoft to add support for Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis.
They could add it to the browser, or add support for it to the OS and then have the browser support it.
They can support both H.264 and Ogg if they want to.
For example, there are many sites like Wikipedia which *ONLY* permit Ogg Theora and Ogg Vorbis for multimedia; without built-in support, IE users have trouble hearing/viewing the content.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31502280</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>UnknowingFool</author>
	<datestamp>1268738400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Looking at MS history, it's been their modus operandi to keep customers from using competitors by promising technologies that they may or may not deliver.</p><p>1991:  Don't look at other OS like nEXT, Mac, or OS/2.  Our Cairo system will have an object oriented file system. . . <br>
1996:  Well, Cairo was more of a design prototype.  It was never meant to be a product.</p><p>1995: Don't look at Quicktime for video.  AVI is what you want.
<br>
1996:  Don't look at Quicktime for video. Don't use our AVI either.  Active Movie is the format you want.
<br>
1997: Don't look at Quicktime for video. Don't use our Active Movie.  Active Movie 2 is the format you want.
<br>
1998: Don't look at Quicktime for video. Don't use our Active Movie 2.  DirectShow is the format you want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Looking at MS history , it 's been their modus operandi to keep customers from using competitors by promising technologies that they may or may not deliver.1991 : Do n't look at other OS like nEXT , Mac , or OS/2 .
Our Cairo system will have an object oriented file system .
. .
1996 : Well , Cairo was more of a design prototype .
It was never meant to be a product.1995 : Do n't look at Quicktime for video .
AVI is what you want .
1996 : Do n't look at Quicktime for video .
Do n't use our AVI either .
Active Movie is the format you want .
1997 : Do n't look at Quicktime for video .
Do n't use our Active Movie .
Active Movie 2 is the format you want .
1998 : Do n't look at Quicktime for video .
Do n't use our Active Movie 2 .
DirectShow is the format you want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Looking at MS history, it's been their modus operandi to keep customers from using competitors by promising technologies that they may or may not deliver.1991:  Don't look at other OS like nEXT, Mac, or OS/2.
Our Cairo system will have an object oriented file system.
. .
1996:  Well, Cairo was more of a design prototype.
It was never meant to be a product.1995: Don't look at Quicktime for video.
AVI is what you want.
1996:  Don't look at Quicktime for video.
Don't use our AVI either.
Active Movie is the format you want.
1997: Don't look at Quicktime for video.
Don't use our Active Movie.
Active Movie 2 is the format you want.
1998: Don't look at Quicktime for video.
Don't use our Active Movie 2.
DirectShow is the format you want.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31506904</id>
	<title>Well...</title>
	<author>VTEX</author>
	<datestamp>1268831700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Well, hopefully with this release IE will be less of a bane to us developers than it used to be... at least for a little while.  It will certainly be nice to finally deprecate the usage of background images and DOM hacks to round corners.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , hopefully with this release IE will be less of a bane to us developers than it used to be... at least for a little while .
It will certainly be nice to finally deprecate the usage of background images and DOM hacks to round corners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, hopefully with this release IE will be less of a bane to us developers than it used to be... at least for a little while.
It will certainly be nice to finally deprecate the usage of background images and DOM hacks to round corners.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500902</id>
	<title>Re:Slew of recent marketting...</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1268731620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two points:</p><p>1) Maybe Microsoft just has more products coming out this quarter than they usually do</p><p>2) This pales in comparison to the massive amounts of iPad coverage we all were subjected to-- especially since these Microsoft products are actually *useful*, and not crap like the iPad is</p><p>I don't get the sense I'm seeing any more pre-release coverage than normal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two points : 1 ) Maybe Microsoft just has more products coming out this quarter than they usually do2 ) This pales in comparison to the massive amounts of iPad coverage we all were subjected to-- especially since these Microsoft products are actually * useful * , and not crap like the iPad isI do n't get the sense I 'm seeing any more pre-release coverage than normal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two points:1) Maybe Microsoft just has more products coming out this quarter than they usually do2) This pales in comparison to the massive amounts of iPad coverage we all were subjected to-- especially since these Microsoft products are actually *useful*, and not crap like the iPad isI don't get the sense I'm seeing any more pre-release coverage than normal.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499478</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501952</id>
	<title>No MathML? No Ogg?</title>
	<author>dwheeler</author>
	<datestamp>1268736660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
No MathML? No Ogg?  Only works on Vista or newer?
And look at the SVG "doesn't implement" list... what it DOESN'T do is rather painful.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No MathML ?
No Ogg ?
Only works on Vista or newer ?
And look at the SVG " does n't implement " list... what it DOES N'T do is rather painful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
No MathML?
No Ogg?
Only works on Vista or newer?
And look at the SVG "doesn't implement" list... what it DOESN'T do is rather painful.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503252</id>
	<title>One of its goals to run Google Wave?</title>
	<author>MtViewGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1268744340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder how high the compliance level of HTML 5.0 that Internet Explorer 9.0 conform to. If it can actually run Google Wave natively, then that would be quite an achievement, since Google Wave has to potential to be a really awesome collaborative tool, especially if you don't need to load an extra browser to run it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder how high the compliance level of HTML 5.0 that Internet Explorer 9.0 conform to .
If it can actually run Google Wave natively , then that would be quite an achievement , since Google Wave has to potential to be a really awesome collaborative tool , especially if you do n't need to load an extra browser to run it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder how high the compliance level of HTML 5.0 that Internet Explorer 9.0 conform to.
If it can actually run Google Wave natively, then that would be quite an achievement, since Google Wave has to potential to be a really awesome collaborative tool, especially if you don't need to load an extra browser to run it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499488</id>
	<title>But...</title>
	<author>MathiasRav</author>
	<datestamp>1268768700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does it run Linux?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498774</id>
	<title>plug-in-free video?</title>
	<author>mpapet</author>
	<datestamp>1268765940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Meaning Microsoft controls the kinds of video IE can stream?</p><p>This is a big opportunity for Microsoft to force the Internet media standards AND generate some meaningful license fees.  Those fees would be paid to Microsoft to enable streaming your hot-new-VC-backed media format.  Microsoft would never have to deal with those pesky media streaming competitors they used to call partners.</p><p>If I made decisions at Microsoft, that's how I'd do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Meaning Microsoft controls the kinds of video IE can stream ? This is a big opportunity for Microsoft to force the Internet media standards AND generate some meaningful license fees .
Those fees would be paid to Microsoft to enable streaming your hot-new-VC-backed media format .
Microsoft would never have to deal with those pesky media streaming competitors they used to call partners.If I made decisions at Microsoft , that 's how I 'd do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meaning Microsoft controls the kinds of video IE can stream?This is a big opportunity for Microsoft to force the Internet media standards AND generate some meaningful license fees.
Those fees would be paid to Microsoft to enable streaming your hot-new-VC-backed media format.
Microsoft would never have to deal with those pesky media streaming competitors they used to call partners.If I made decisions at Microsoft, that's how I'd do it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500078</id>
	<title>Re:So... what is the catch?</title>
	<author>MemoryDragon</author>
	<datestamp>1268771040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually even ie8 already has dev tools included, not as good as firebug, but definitely useful.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually even ie8 already has dev tools included , not as good as firebug , but definitely useful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually even ie8 already has dev tools included, not as good as firebug, but definitely useful.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498826</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499300</id>
	<title>Re:Standard compliance?</title>
	<author>Tumbleweed</author>
	<datestamp>1268767860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>So with all of the nifty, new stuff they are finally compliant, right? I mean no more body {text-align: center;} instead of body { margin: 0px auto; } to center a fixed width layout, right?</i></p><p>Those are two different things. text-align: center centers stuff in a div. the margin: 0 auto you set to a div to center that block (the div) in its container. Even IE6 works correctly with this, so I don't know what the issue is here.</p><p>For those having box-model issues with IE6, you can easily fix this by using the HTML 4.01 Strict DTD, FYI.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So with all of the nifty , new stuff they are finally compliant , right ?
I mean no more body { text-align : center ; } instead of body { margin : 0px auto ; } to center a fixed width layout , right ? Those are two different things .
text-align : center centers stuff in a div .
the margin : 0 auto you set to a div to center that block ( the div ) in its container .
Even IE6 works correctly with this , so I do n't know what the issue is here.For those having box-model issues with IE6 , you can easily fix this by using the HTML 4.01 Strict DTD , FYI .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So with all of the nifty, new stuff they are finally compliant, right?
I mean no more body {text-align: center;} instead of body { margin: 0px auto; } to center a fixed width layout, right?Those are two different things.
text-align: center centers stuff in a div.
the margin: 0 auto you set to a div to center that block (the div) in its container.
Even IE6 works correctly with this, so I don't know what the issue is here.For those having box-model issues with IE6, you can easily fix this by using the HTML 4.01 Strict DTD, FYI.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498920</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31507082</id>
	<title>IE9: a bubble of numenous light</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1268833140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can see why IE adopted Chakra.  Here's Neal Stephenson on overcoming disability: <a href="http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian\_wings/2005/04/dont\_read\_this.html" title="blogs.com">NSFW</a> [blogs.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can see why IE adopted Chakra .
Here 's Neal Stephenson on overcoming disability : NSFW [ blogs.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can see why IE adopted Chakra.
Here's Neal Stephenson on overcoming disability: NSFW [blogs.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498714</id>
	<title>German translation...</title>
	<author>Mantis8</author>
	<datestamp>1268765760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ie? nein</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ie ?
nein</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ie?
nein</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503044</id>
	<title>No XP</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268742960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the first version of Internet Explorer that makes some attempt at implementing web standards. But it doesn't run on Windows XP. How do they intend to get rid of IE6 if upgrading to IE9 requires buying a new OS, installing it and migrating/reinstalling everything else? Many people with older computers won't install Windows 7. They're happy with XP. Or they're afraid of 7's resource hunger, or the learning curve, or that their old apps won't run, etc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the first version of Internet Explorer that makes some attempt at implementing web standards .
But it does n't run on Windows XP .
How do they intend to get rid of IE6 if upgrading to IE9 requires buying a new OS , installing it and migrating/reinstalling everything else ?
Many people with older computers wo n't install Windows 7 .
They 're happy with XP .
Or they 're afraid of 7 's resource hunger , or the learning curve , or that their old apps wo n't run , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the first version of Internet Explorer that makes some attempt at implementing web standards.
But it doesn't run on Windows XP.
How do they intend to get rid of IE6 if upgrading to IE9 requires buying a new OS, installing it and migrating/reinstalling everything else?
Many people with older computers won't install Windows 7.
They're happy with XP.
Or they're afraid of 7's resource hunger, or the learning curve, or that their old apps won't run, etc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500382</id>
	<title>Doesn't install on XP</title>
	<author>youngec</author>
	<datestamp>1268772300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This probably goes without saying, but the IE9 preview does not install on Windows XP.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This probably goes without saying , but the IE9 preview does not install on Windows XP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This probably goes without saying, but the IE9 preview does not install on Windows XP.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499638</id>
	<title>Increasing speed</title>
	<author>Quiet\_Desperation</author>
	<datestamp>1268769240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MS also announced demos of IE10, IE11 and IE12.</p><p>"A new release every month! That's our goal!" said sweaty, vaguely simian MS CEO Steve Ballmer. The new Hachamovitch Javascript engine will interface with the Millajovovich subsystem to spawn independent processes to more effectively deliver those animated ads everyone loves!"</p><p>"Like that punch the monkey ad! I love that one!" Ballmer said and began his patented monkey dance. "C'mon everyone! Punch the monkey!"</p><p>When asked about MS simply adopting WebKit and making everyone's life easier and even saving themselves piles of money, Ballmer pulled out a shotgun and killed the reporter.</p><p>"Oops! Thought he was zombie," said Ballmer and shot the reporter's body again. "Double tap!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MS also announced demos of IE10 , IE11 and IE12 .
" A new release every month !
That 's our goal !
" said sweaty , vaguely simian MS CEO Steve Ballmer .
The new Hachamovitch Javascript engine will interface with the Millajovovich subsystem to spawn independent processes to more effectively deliver those animated ads everyone loves !
" " Like that punch the monkey ad !
I love that one !
" Ballmer said and began his patented monkey dance .
" C'mon everyone !
Punch the monkey !
" When asked about MS simply adopting WebKit and making everyone 's life easier and even saving themselves piles of money , Ballmer pulled out a shotgun and killed the reporter. " Oops !
Thought he was zombie , " said Ballmer and shot the reporter 's body again .
" Double tap !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MS also announced demos of IE10, IE11 and IE12.
"A new release every month!
That's our goal!
" said sweaty, vaguely simian MS CEO Steve Ballmer.
The new Hachamovitch Javascript engine will interface with the Millajovovich subsystem to spawn independent processes to more effectively deliver those animated ads everyone loves!
""Like that punch the monkey ad!
I love that one!
" Ballmer said and began his patented monkey dance.
"C'mon everyone!
Punch the monkey!
"When asked about MS simply adopting WebKit and making everyone's life easier and even saving themselves piles of money, Ballmer pulled out a shotgun and killed the reporter."Oops!
Thought he was zombie," said Ballmer and shot the reporter's body again.
"Double tap!
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501984</id>
	<title>Wow! You're already running IE9!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268736840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From <a href="http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/" title="microsoft.com" rel="nofollow">http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/</a> [microsoft.com] in Firefox with NoScript<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From http : //ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/ [ microsoft.com ] in Firefox with NoScript : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/ [microsoft.com] in Firefox with NoScript :P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501048</id>
	<title>A Generation Behind</title>
	<author>WebmasterNeal</author>
	<datestamp>1268732280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like prior IE releases they're still playing catchup and not moving ahead of the competition. Webkit &amp; Mozilla have support border-radius for quite some time now and Opera, I believe, has also started to supported it. Then there's SVG which the others have supported for a very long time now.
<br> <br>
This is no different than when IE8 was released and IE finally supported CSS 2.1 when all the other browser vendors had.
<br> <br>
Webkit, specifically Safari, has been leading the way in CSS innovation &amp; Javascript performance with each release with Chrome slightly behind. Firefox &amp; Opera seem to be battling it out for third place and IE, of course is always an entire generation behind.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like prior IE releases they 're still playing catchup and not moving ahead of the competition .
Webkit &amp; Mozilla have support border-radius for quite some time now and Opera , I believe , has also started to supported it .
Then there 's SVG which the others have supported for a very long time now .
This is no different than when IE8 was released and IE finally supported CSS 2.1 when all the other browser vendors had .
Webkit , specifically Safari , has been leading the way in CSS innovation &amp; Javascript performance with each release with Chrome slightly behind .
Firefox &amp; Opera seem to be battling it out for third place and IE , of course is always an entire generation behind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like prior IE releases they're still playing catchup and not moving ahead of the competition.
Webkit &amp; Mozilla have support border-radius for quite some time now and Opera, I believe, has also started to supported it.
Then there's SVG which the others have supported for a very long time now.
This is no different than when IE8 was released and IE finally supported CSS 2.1 when all the other browser vendors had.
Webkit, specifically Safari, has been leading the way in CSS innovation &amp; Javascript performance with each release with Chrome slightly behind.
Firefox &amp; Opera seem to be battling it out for third place and IE, of course is always an entire generation behind.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498870</id>
	<title>Oh Jesus!  Why do they keep on with new IEs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268766240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why can't they just call it a day, adopt the Webkit or Geko engine (i.e. something that works) and stop torturing web developers with new and ever more useless versions of IE.</p><p>Ok.  Keep a neutered and sanitized version of IE6 for all those corporate intranet apps that need Active X controls embedded in the browser, but othrwise let it go.</p><p>IE10 (IE X) should be based on an open/free engine that actually works and complies with standards, and Trident should be sunk with trace.</p><p>The managers at MS must be dopes - pissing away money on new IE version development when nobody wants the poisonous heap of shit that IE is, always has been, and always will be.</p><p>Stop torturing innocent web devs and kill IE (Trident) now!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't they just call it a day , adopt the Webkit or Geko engine ( i.e .
something that works ) and stop torturing web developers with new and ever more useless versions of IE.Ok .
Keep a neutered and sanitized version of IE6 for all those corporate intranet apps that need Active X controls embedded in the browser , but othrwise let it go.IE10 ( IE X ) should be based on an open/free engine that actually works and complies with standards , and Trident should be sunk with trace.The managers at MS must be dopes - pissing away money on new IE version development when nobody wants the poisonous heap of shit that IE is , always has been , and always will be.Stop torturing innocent web devs and kill IE ( Trident ) now !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't they just call it a day, adopt the Webkit or Geko engine (i.e.
something that works) and stop torturing web developers with new and ever more useless versions of IE.Ok.
Keep a neutered and sanitized version of IE6 for all those corporate intranet apps that need Active X controls embedded in the browser, but othrwise let it go.IE10 (IE X) should be based on an open/free engine that actually works and complies with standards, and Trident should be sunk with trace.The managers at MS must be dopes - pissing away money on new IE version development when nobody wants the poisonous heap of shit that IE is, always has been, and always will be.Stop torturing innocent web devs and kill IE (Trident) now!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31502912</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>cbhacking</author>
	<datestamp>1268741940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Believe it or not, probably at least half of your list of people who know "nothing about browsers" still run Windows Update, which means they could easily have accepted the upgrade to IE7 or 8. It's not mandatory, but it does somewhat pop out at you. Outside of locked down corporate environments, I see very little of IE6 anymore. Then again, maybe I'm just lucky (it also helps that most of my friends are fairly technically inclined).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Believe it or not , probably at least half of your list of people who know " nothing about browsers " still run Windows Update , which means they could easily have accepted the upgrade to IE7 or 8 .
It 's not mandatory , but it does somewhat pop out at you .
Outside of locked down corporate environments , I see very little of IE6 anymore .
Then again , maybe I 'm just lucky ( it also helps that most of my friends are fairly technically inclined ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Believe it or not, probably at least half of your list of people who know "nothing about browsers" still run Windows Update, which means they could easily have accepted the upgrade to IE7 or 8.
It's not mandatory, but it does somewhat pop out at you.
Outside of locked down corporate environments, I see very little of IE6 anymore.
Then again, maybe I'm just lucky (it also helps that most of my friends are fairly technically inclined).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498642</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31528180</id>
	<title>Re:plug-in-free video?</title>
	<author>Simetrical</author>
	<datestamp>1268904420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Meaning Microsoft controls the kinds of video IE can stream?</p><p>This is a big opportunity for Microsoft to force the Internet media standards AND generate some meaningful license fees.  Those fees would be paid to Microsoft to enable streaming your hot-new-VC-backed media format.  Microsoft would never have to deal with those pesky media streaming competitors they used to call partners.</p><p>If I made decisions at Microsoft, that's how I'd do it.</p></div><p>IE9 is supporting <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2010/03/16/html5-hardware-accelerated-first-ie9-platform-preview-available-for-developers.aspx#9979730" title="msdn.com">"MP4 h.264 video, MP3 or AAC audio - just like Safari, Chrome."</a> [msdn.com]  Not Theora, of course, but H.264, not some Microsoft-only thing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meaning Microsoft controls the kinds of video IE can stream ? This is a big opportunity for Microsoft to force the Internet media standards AND generate some meaningful license fees .
Those fees would be paid to Microsoft to enable streaming your hot-new-VC-backed media format .
Microsoft would never have to deal with those pesky media streaming competitors they used to call partners.If I made decisions at Microsoft , that 's how I 'd do it.IE9 is supporting " MP4 h.264 video , MP3 or AAC audio - just like Safari , Chrome .
" [ msdn.com ] Not Theora , of course , but H.264 , not some Microsoft-only thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meaning Microsoft controls the kinds of video IE can stream?This is a big opportunity for Microsoft to force the Internet media standards AND generate some meaningful license fees.
Those fees would be paid to Microsoft to enable streaming your hot-new-VC-backed media format.
Microsoft would never have to deal with those pesky media streaming competitors they used to call partners.If I made decisions at Microsoft, that's how I'd do it.IE9 is supporting "MP4 h.264 video, MP3 or AAC audio - just like Safari, Chrome.
" [msdn.com]  Not Theora, of course, but H.264, not some Microsoft-only thing.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501646</id>
	<title>Re:Microsoft should stop</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268735160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want to get a preview if it is compliant with the standards you use on your site, you can open the developer tools (under the debug menu) and change one of the hrefs on the page to point to your site.  Click the modified link and you're free to test.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want to get a preview if it is compliant with the standards you use on your site , you can open the developer tools ( under the debug menu ) and change one of the hrefs on the page to point to your site .
Click the modified link and you 're free to test .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want to get a preview if it is compliant with the standards you use on your site, you can open the developer tools (under the debug menu) and change one of the hrefs on the page to point to your site.
Click the modified link and you're free to test.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499458</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31502934</id>
	<title>Re:Now THAT is Inovation</title>
	<author>cbhacking</author>
	<datestamp>1268742180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny, but navigating via just links and the "Open URL" dialog (pops up when pressing Ctrl-O in the IE9 preview) works surprisingly well. I really don't ectually use the address bar that much.</p><p>That said, the lack of tabs, the lack of Back functionality (not just the button, the function itself is missing), and fact that it doesn't use my ad-blocker mean it's not something I'm going to use very heavily day-to-day. It is pretty damn awesome seeing Slashdot's discussion2 AJAX stuff go so fast, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny , but navigating via just links and the " Open URL " dialog ( pops up when pressing Ctrl-O in the IE9 preview ) works surprisingly well .
I really do n't ectually use the address bar that much.That said , the lack of tabs , the lack of Back functionality ( not just the button , the function itself is missing ) , and fact that it does n't use my ad-blocker mean it 's not something I 'm going to use very heavily day-to-day .
It is pretty damn awesome seeing Slashdot 's discussion2 AJAX stuff go so fast , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny, but navigating via just links and the "Open URL" dialog (pops up when pressing Ctrl-O in the IE9 preview) works surprisingly well.
I really don't ectually use the address bar that much.That said, the lack of tabs, the lack of Back functionality (not just the button, the function itself is missing), and fact that it doesn't use my ad-blocker mean it's not something I'm going to use very heavily day-to-day.
It is pretty damn awesome seeing Slashdot's discussion2 AJAX stuff go so fast, though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498568</id>
	<title>first comment!</title>
	<author>arief.utama</author>
	<datestamp>1268765220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>woot!

(dont really care what ie9 really is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D)</htmltext>
<tokenext>woot !
( dont really care what ie9 really is : D )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>woot!
(dont really care what ie9 really is :D)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31503698</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268748480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Microsoft really wanted to kill IE6, they would make IE9 run on XP. They just <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860\_3-20000561-56.html" title="cnet.com" rel="nofollow">made it very clear</a> [cnet.com] they won't do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Microsoft really wanted to kill IE6 , they would make IE9 run on XP .
They just made it very clear [ cnet.com ] they wo n't do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Microsoft really wanted to kill IE6, they would make IE9 run on XP.
They just made it very clear [cnet.com] they won't do that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31499384</id>
	<title>Re:So... what is the catch?</title>
	<author>Ralish</author>
	<datestamp>1268768220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I doubt it. Que the MS apologists who will claim this is finally it. They should be ready, they said it often enough before.</p></div><p>Please accept my sincere apologies, but I have to prioritise, and a brief statistical analysis suggests converting the pope to atheism is a likely more rewarding pursuit than engaging in intellectual debate with you over Microsoft. Cheers!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I doubt it .
Que the MS apologists who will claim this is finally it .
They should be ready , they said it often enough before.Please accept my sincere apologies , but I have to prioritise , and a brief statistical analysis suggests converting the pope to atheism is a likely more rewarding pursuit than engaging in intellectual debate with you over Microsoft .
Cheers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I doubt it.
Que the MS apologists who will claim this is finally it.
They should be ready, they said it often enough before.Please accept my sincere apologies, but I have to prioritise, and a brief statistical analysis suggests converting the pope to atheism is a likely more rewarding pursuit than engaging in intellectual debate with you over Microsoft.
Cheers!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31502556</id>
	<title>You've got to give Microsoft some credit</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1268739960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>IE is one of the few Microsoft products that is actually worth exactly what the customers pay for it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>IE is one of the few Microsoft products that is actually worth exactly what the customers pay for it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE is one of the few Microsoft products that is actually worth exactly what the customers pay for it!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501842</id>
	<title>Who needs ActiveX...</title>
	<author>John Hasler</author>
	<datestamp>1268736240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...when it is being built right into HTML?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...when it is being built right into HTML ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...when it is being built right into HTML?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31498670</id>
	<title>Now THAT is Inovation</title>
	<author>MrTripps</author>
	<datestamp>1268765640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The new software is only a framework, raw enough that it's still missing a "back" button." You can't say it isn't forward thinking if it won't let you go back.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The new software is only a framework , raw enough that it 's still missing a " back " button .
" You ca n't say it is n't forward thinking if it wo n't let you go back .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The new software is only a framework, raw enough that it's still missing a "back" button.
" You can't say it isn't forward thinking if it won't let you go back.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31500644</id>
	<title>Acid 3 result, 2d performance</title>
	<author>mxh83</author>
	<datestamp>1268730360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you look back to when IE 8 was being developed, the  Acid 3 score barely changed between preview releases and final scores.  So I think this time it will be the same and 55 is around what we can expect in IE 9 final.  So once again IE is not standards compliant (unless the submitted tests are accepted).<br>That said, I installed the preview and ran the test "Flying Images" and I was genuinely impressed.  I hope that 2D performance comes to Firefox soon.  The difference is astonishing especially when you increase the number of objects.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you look back to when IE 8 was being developed , the Acid 3 score barely changed between preview releases and final scores .
So I think this time it will be the same and 55 is around what we can expect in IE 9 final .
So once again IE is not standards compliant ( unless the submitted tests are accepted ) .That said , I installed the preview and ran the test " Flying Images " and I was genuinely impressed .
I hope that 2D performance comes to Firefox soon .
The difference is astonishing especially when you increase the number of objects .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you look back to when IE 8 was being developed, the  Acid 3 score barely changed between preview releases and final scores.
So I think this time it will be the same and 55 is around what we can expect in IE 9 final.
So once again IE is not standards compliant (unless the submitted tests are accepted).That said, I installed the preview and ran the test "Flying Images" and I was genuinely impressed.
I hope that 2D performance comes to Firefox soon.
The difference is astonishing especially when you increase the number of objects.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_16_1719250.31501094</id>
	<title>Re:Uphill Battle</title>
	<author>magus\_melchior</author>
	<datestamp>1268732460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Technically, there's nothing stopping Microsoft from packaging IE8 (dear God, no) or IE9 as a mandatory update to IE6 and forcing a reboot. Sure, it might require a revision to their policies, and customers might complain, but the Windows Update architecture allows for this.</p><p>The only thing preventing them from doing this is all the businesses dependent on IE6-specific intranet and Web applications and unwilling to invest in upgrading to something more standards-compliant. I suppose Microsoft can force the issue and offer an IE6 emulator until they do the upgrade...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically , there 's nothing stopping Microsoft from packaging IE8 ( dear God , no ) or IE9 as a mandatory update to IE6 and forcing a reboot .
Sure , it might require a revision to their policies , and customers might complain , but the Windows Update architecture allows for this.The only thing preventing them from doing this is all the businesses dependent on IE6-specific intranet and Web applications and unwilling to invest in upgrading to something more standards-compliant .
I suppose Microsoft can force the issue and offer an IE6 emulator until they do the upgrade.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically, there's nothing stopping Microsoft from packaging IE8 (dear God, no) or IE9 as a mandatory update to IE6 and forcing a reboot.
Sure, it might require a revision to their policies, and customers might complain, but the Windows Update architecture allows for this.The only thing preventing them from doing this is all the businesses dependent on IE6-specific intranet and Web applications and unwilling to invest in upgrading to something more standards-compliant.
I suppose Microsoft can force the issue and offer an IE6 emulator until they do the upgrade...</sentencetext>
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