<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_15_2041258</id>
	<title>Pirate Bay Legal Action Dropped In Norway</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1268646900000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>superapecommando writes <i>"<a href="http://www.computerworlduk.com/management/government-law/legislation/news/index.cfm?newsid=19371">Copyright holders have given up legal efforts</a> to force Norwegian ISP Telenor to block filesharing site The Pirate Bay, one of the parties to the case said. The copyright holders, led by Norway's performing rights society TONO and by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry Norway (IFPI Norge), have <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/07/0256257/Norwegian-Court-Rules-ISP-Doesnt-Have-To-Block-The-Pirate-Bay">lost two rounds in the Norwegian court system</a>, and have now <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/ifpi-gives-up-trying-to-force-isp-to-block-the-pirate-bay-100313/">decided against appealing the case to Norway's supreme court</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>superapecommando writes " Copyright holders have given up legal efforts to force Norwegian ISP Telenor to block filesharing site The Pirate Bay , one of the parties to the case said .
The copyright holders , led by Norway 's performing rights society TONO and by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry Norway ( IFPI Norge ) , have lost two rounds in the Norwegian court system , and have now decided against appealing the case to Norway 's supreme court .
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<sentencetext>superapecommando writes "Copyright holders have given up legal efforts to force Norwegian ISP Telenor to block filesharing site The Pirate Bay, one of the parties to the case said.
The copyright holders, led by Norway's performing rights society TONO and by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry Norway (IFPI Norge), have lost two rounds in the Norwegian court system, and have now decided against appealing the case to Norway's supreme court.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31503400</id>
	<title>Re:I'm a troll--so sue me.</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1268745600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>by taking what you are not entitled to, you remove the ability of the person that created/marketed it to buy their own bread.<br>
<i>And why would that be? Can you justify this rule?</i> <br>
yes it has been in common law for centuries.  If you don't pay for the goods you don't get them.  Simple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>by taking what you are not entitled to , you remove the ability of the person that created/marketed it to buy their own bread .
And why would that be ?
Can you justify this rule ?
yes it has been in common law for centuries .
If you do n't pay for the goods you do n't get them .
Simple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>by taking what you are not entitled to, you remove the ability of the person that created/marketed it to buy their own bread.
And why would that be?
Can you justify this rule?
yes it has been in common law for centuries.
If you don't pay for the goods you don't get them.
Simple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488506</id>
	<title>Aren't they still facing jail time?</title>
	<author>gront</author>
	<datestamp>1268650680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Subject to a pending appeal, don't the guys running it still face a year in jail?  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Pirate\_Bay\_trial" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Pirate\_Bay\_trial</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Subject to a pending appeal , do n't the guys running it still face a year in jail ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The \ _Pirate \ _Bay \ _trial [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Subject to a pending appeal, don't the guys running it still face a year in jail?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Pirate\_Bay\_trial [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491288</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268667900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If you don't like their prising, buy the dvd, a tivo, or find another provider (my cable company lets me watch old episodes for free). Just because you think something should cost less, doesn't give you the right to steal it.</i></p><p>Not an option for me. I miss an episode of House, I can:</p><p>a) Wave my fist in anger.<br>b) Wait for a year or so 'til they decide it's fine now to give me the DVD.<br>c) Hit the torrents and wait 5 minuts.</p><p>I noticed that options a) and b) are not really satisfying. I actually <i>do not have</i> an option available to me that offers me that episode, even if I wanted to pay, nobody's there that would want to take my money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you do n't like their prising , buy the dvd , a tivo , or find another provider ( my cable company lets me watch old episodes for free ) .
Just because you think something should cost less , does n't give you the right to steal it.Not an option for me .
I miss an episode of House , I can : a ) Wave my fist in anger.b ) Wait for a year or so 'til they decide it 's fine now to give me the DVD.c ) Hit the torrents and wait 5 minuts.I noticed that options a ) and b ) are not really satisfying .
I actually do not have an option available to me that offers me that episode , even if I wanted to pay , nobody 's there that would want to take my money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you don't like their prising, buy the dvd, a tivo, or find another provider (my cable company lets me watch old episodes for free).
Just because you think something should cost less, doesn't give you the right to steal it.Not an option for me.
I miss an episode of House, I can:a) Wave my fist in anger.b) Wait for a year or so 'til they decide it's fine now to give me the DVD.c) Hit the torrents and wait 5 minuts.I noticed that options a) and b) are not really satisfying.
I actually do not have an option available to me that offers me that episode, even if I wanted to pay, nobody's there that would want to take my money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489370</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Kjella</author>
	<datestamp>1268655540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The reason why they keep losing in court is because of strong privacy laws in Norway. In order to sue anyone for downloading copyrighted material, it would require the ISPs to identify users by IP addresses, something which is a very big no-no here.</p></div><p>Actually, they don't get that far. The biggest blocker for them right now is that their license to store private surveillance data from public networks has been refused by the Data Inspectorate, so they simply aren't getting started. The police is obviously not wasting their time investigating it. Right now the winds are blowing quite strongly in the direction of privacy, we may *crosses fingers* refuse EU's data storage directive, that'll be a first in 16 years.</p><p>In Sweden they know that any real anti-piracy crackdown would bring the Pirate Party into parliament, despite all the noise when the Pirate Party entered the EU parliament last year there's been essentially no legal activity and the file sharing is already at new heights, higher than before the FRA law, It's no wonder why they make their best offers like free Spotify in Scandinavia, they're trying desperately to hold the flood gates.</p><p>It's just like when Microsoft sees they could lose their dominance somewhere and offer a supergood deal to keep them on Windows. They know if copying for non-commercial use is legalized in one country, that country will become the center of all hubs and trackers and seedboxes and vpn services bringing the whole house of cards down. And technology keeps working against them all the time, if you have a 1 Mbit line letting someone leech from you really eats into your bandwidth but if you have 100 Mbit you barely notice. It's just borrowing away a little bit of what you're not using yourself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason why they keep losing in court is because of strong privacy laws in Norway .
In order to sue anyone for downloading copyrighted material , it would require the ISPs to identify users by IP addresses , something which is a very big no-no here.Actually , they do n't get that far .
The biggest blocker for them right now is that their license to store private surveillance data from public networks has been refused by the Data Inspectorate , so they simply are n't getting started .
The police is obviously not wasting their time investigating it .
Right now the winds are blowing quite strongly in the direction of privacy , we may * crosses fingers * refuse EU 's data storage directive , that 'll be a first in 16 years.In Sweden they know that any real anti-piracy crackdown would bring the Pirate Party into parliament , despite all the noise when the Pirate Party entered the EU parliament last year there 's been essentially no legal activity and the file sharing is already at new heights , higher than before the FRA law , It 's no wonder why they make their best offers like free Spotify in Scandinavia , they 're trying desperately to hold the flood gates.It 's just like when Microsoft sees they could lose their dominance somewhere and offer a supergood deal to keep them on Windows .
They know if copying for non-commercial use is legalized in one country , that country will become the center of all hubs and trackers and seedboxes and vpn services bringing the whole house of cards down .
And technology keeps working against them all the time , if you have a 1 Mbit line letting someone leech from you really eats into your bandwidth but if you have 100 Mbit you barely notice .
It 's just borrowing away a little bit of what you 're not using yourself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason why they keep losing in court is because of strong privacy laws in Norway.
In order to sue anyone for downloading copyrighted material, it would require the ISPs to identify users by IP addresses, something which is a very big no-no here.Actually, they don't get that far.
The biggest blocker for them right now is that their license to store private surveillance data from public networks has been refused by the Data Inspectorate, so they simply aren't getting started.
The police is obviously not wasting their time investigating it.
Right now the winds are blowing quite strongly in the direction of privacy, we may *crosses fingers* refuse EU's data storage directive, that'll be a first in 16 years.In Sweden they know that any real anti-piracy crackdown would bring the Pirate Party into parliament, despite all the noise when the Pirate Party entered the EU parliament last year there's been essentially no legal activity and the file sharing is already at new heights, higher than before the FRA law, It's no wonder why they make their best offers like free Spotify in Scandinavia, they're trying desperately to hold the flood gates.It's just like when Microsoft sees they could lose their dominance somewhere and offer a supergood deal to keep them on Windows.
They know if copying for non-commercial use is legalized in one country, that country will become the center of all hubs and trackers and seedboxes and vpn services bringing the whole house of cards down.
And technology keeps working against them all the time, if you have a 1 Mbit line letting someone leech from you really eats into your bandwidth but if you have 100 Mbit you barely notice.
It's just borrowing away a little bit of what you're not using yourself.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490742</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268663820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No. They aren't.</p><p>The cool kids download games so they don't have to deal with the terrible file protection bullshit software all the game companies pump their discs full of. Then when they find a good game they buy it to support the good company, but not the system they are using to discourage piracy.</p><p>I hope you mean buy music through something like iTunes, I didn't know people still owned CD players until I visited an old folks home the other week.</p><p>Books on the other hand, still have my (on behalf of cool kids everywhere) full endorsement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
They are n't.The cool kids download games so they do n't have to deal with the terrible file protection bullshit software all the game companies pump their discs full of .
Then when they find a good game they buy it to support the good company , but not the system they are using to discourage piracy.I hope you mean buy music through something like iTunes , I did n't know people still owned CD players until I visited an old folks home the other week.Books on the other hand , still have my ( on behalf of cool kids everywhere ) full endorsement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
They aren't.The cool kids download games so they don't have to deal with the terrible file protection bullshit software all the game companies pump their discs full of.
Then when they find a good game they buy it to support the good company, but not the system they are using to discourage piracy.I hope you mean buy music through something like iTunes, I didn't know people still owned CD players until I visited an old folks home the other week.Books on the other hand, still have my (on behalf of cool kids everywhere) full endorsement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31502630</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>cecom</author>
	<datestamp>1268740380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I see your problem, but ultimately it doesn't matter. The bottom line is, nobody is required to sell you any product for any price.

It just happens that in this case you can obtain the product for free, which however explicitly goes against the wishes (and depending on the country legal rights) of its owner and creator.

<p>No matter how we rationalize it, torrenting it would be unethical.

</p><p>Not to mention that providing a DVR service, like the original poster wanted, clearly costs something - resources, etc. The media corporations and cable companies may be greedy bastards, but they are not the only ones. Any reasonable business is practically obligated to sell for maximum profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I see your problem , but ultimately it does n't matter .
The bottom line is , nobody is required to sell you any product for any price .
It just happens that in this case you can obtain the product for free , which however explicitly goes against the wishes ( and depending on the country legal rights ) of its owner and creator .
No matter how we rationalize it , torrenting it would be unethical .
Not to mention that providing a DVR service , like the original poster wanted , clearly costs something - resources , etc .
The media corporations and cable companies may be greedy bastards , but they are not the only ones .
Any reasonable business is practically obligated to sell for maximum profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see your problem, but ultimately it doesn't matter.
The bottom line is, nobody is required to sell you any product for any price.
It just happens that in this case you can obtain the product for free, which however explicitly goes against the wishes (and depending on the country legal rights) of its owner and creator.
No matter how we rationalize it, torrenting it would be unethical.
Not to mention that providing a DVR service, like the original poster wanted, clearly costs something - resources, etc.
The media corporations and cable companies may be greedy bastards, but they are not the only ones.
Any reasonable business is practically obligated to sell for maximum profit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31493170</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>drop table user</author>
	<datestamp>1268737380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would buy DVD's if they were available, but they're not (at least not from play.com where I shop):</p><p>* Son's of Anarchy season 2<br>* Dexter season 3<br>* Mad Men season 3<br>*<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p><p>All of these are available in torrent land. How come film distributors don't get it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would buy DVD 's if they were available , but they 're not ( at least not from play.com where I shop ) : * Son 's of Anarchy season 2 * Dexter season 3 * Mad Men season 3 * ..All of these are available in torrent land .
How come film distributors do n't get it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would buy DVD's if they were available, but they're not (at least not from play.com where I shop):* Son's of Anarchy season 2* Dexter season 3* Mad Men season 3* ..All of these are available in torrent land.
How come film distributors don't get it?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31493608</id>
	<title>Reading too fast...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268743680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...and by the International Federation of the Pornographic Industry Norway</p><p>Huh?</p><p>Oh, Phonographic.</p><p>Much better.</p><p>Maybe less internet for me... 8-|</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; ...and by the International Federation of the Pornographic Industry NorwayHuh ? Oh , Phonographic.Much better.Maybe less internet for me... 8- |</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; ...and by the International Federation of the Pornographic Industry NorwayHuh?Oh, Phonographic.Much better.Maybe less internet for me... 8-|</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31505096</id>
	<title>Re:I'm a troll--so sue me.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268763300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I hate fucking communists like you that believe in the government controlling distribution.  Sharing and steeling are valid market forces and limiting them is just centralized government control.  I don't want to subsidize, through my taxes, some asshole that wants to charge $2 for a loaf of bread.<br>If he wants to protect his assets and profits he should pay for it himself rather then making everyone pay for his greed.  I hate you communist with your fucking government laws and Justis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate fucking communists like you that believe in the government controlling distribution .
Sharing and steeling are valid market forces and limiting them is just centralized government control .
I do n't want to subsidize , through my taxes , some asshole that wants to charge $ 2 for a loaf of bread.If he wants to protect his assets and profits he should pay for it himself rather then making everyone pay for his greed .
I hate you communist with your fucking government laws and Justis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate fucking communists like you that believe in the government controlling distribution.
Sharing and steeling are valid market forces and limiting them is just centralized government control.
I don't want to subsidize, through my taxes, some asshole that wants to charge $2 for a loaf of bread.If he wants to protect his assets and profits he should pay for it himself rather then making everyone pay for his greed.
I hate you communist with your fucking government laws and Justis.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491348</id>
	<title>Re:I'm a troll--so sue me.</title>
	<author>Master Moose</author>
	<datestamp>1268668260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now I live in New Zealand. We are a small country with a small population. There are shows/PPVs etc that TV networks pay and FTA have no interest in ever picking up the rights to or broadcasting.

If I am unable to watch something I want to watch and am willing to pay for - but obviously not willing to relocate for, what is the harm in my downloading a show or special etc that I would otherwise have no access to?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I live in New Zealand .
We are a small country with a small population .
There are shows/PPVs etc that TV networks pay and FTA have no interest in ever picking up the rights to or broadcasting .
If I am unable to watch something I want to watch and am willing to pay for - but obviously not willing to relocate for , what is the harm in my downloading a show or special etc that I would otherwise have no access to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I live in New Zealand.
We are a small country with a small population.
There are shows/PPVs etc that TV networks pay and FTA have no interest in ever picking up the rights to or broadcasting.
If I am unable to watch something I want to watch and am willing to pay for - but obviously not willing to relocate for, what is the harm in my downloading a show or special etc that I would otherwise have no access to?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31494516</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268750460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So only the stupid and unprepared get speeding fines? Doesn't seem fair - but I like it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So only the stupid and unprepared get speeding fines ?
Does n't seem fair - but I like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So only the stupid and unprepared get speeding fines?
Doesn't seem fair - but I like it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488514</id>
	<title>Yaarrr!!!</title>
	<author>Starteck81</author>
	<datestamp>1268650740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yaaarrr!!!!... now walk the plank.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yaaarrr ! ! ! ! .. .
now walk the plank .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yaaarrr!!!!...
now walk the plank.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488956</id>
	<title>Re:It's about time!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268653080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A reason that comes to mind is precedent. Assuming Norway's supreme court works like America's, if they appeal and lose they won't be able to sue anyone for anything that looks like this again.</p><p>By not appealing, they're giving themselves the opportunity to come back and sue all the way to the top with a case they think is more favorable to the outcome they want.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A reason that comes to mind is precedent .
Assuming Norway 's supreme court works like America 's , if they appeal and lose they wo n't be able to sue anyone for anything that looks like this again.By not appealing , they 're giving themselves the opportunity to come back and sue all the way to the top with a case they think is more favorable to the outcome they want .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A reason that comes to mind is precedent.
Assuming Norway's supreme court works like America's, if they appeal and lose they won't be able to sue anyone for anything that looks like this again.By not appealing, they're giving themselves the opportunity to come back and sue all the way to the top with a case they think is more favorable to the outcome they want.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31492850</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Lord Bitman</author>
	<datestamp>1268732820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>have you tried driving safely?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>have you tried driving safely ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>have you tried driving safely?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491076</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>DJLuc1d</author>
	<datestamp>1268666280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>God I envy you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>God I envy you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>God I envy you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31493146</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>clickety6</author>
	<datestamp>1268736840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><em>We also have an automatic toll system set up in a few places (on highways entering cities, for example) to automatically scan cars' number (license) plates and send bills to the car owners. This information is deleted as soon as the bills are paid and cannot be used by law enforcement. There are also speed cameras all over that take photos of the driver and automatically blur out the passengers. If you get a ticket as the car owner and you were not driving the car, then you don't have to pay it. My wife drives my car and I driver hers, which completely eliminates these sort of fines. Some people drive with burkas and sunglasses! Motorcyclists cannot get fines as they wear helmets. It's quite an interesting system.</em></p><p>It's great you have these strong privacy rules in place, but then when you start abusing the freedoms  to avoid paying justified fines, you just put pressure on to have the laws weakened to stop them being abused in this way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We also have an automatic toll system set up in a few places ( on highways entering cities , for example ) to automatically scan cars ' number ( license ) plates and send bills to the car owners .
This information is deleted as soon as the bills are paid and can not be used by law enforcement .
There are also speed cameras all over that take photos of the driver and automatically blur out the passengers .
If you get a ticket as the car owner and you were not driving the car , then you do n't have to pay it .
My wife drives my car and I driver hers , which completely eliminates these sort of fines .
Some people drive with burkas and sunglasses !
Motorcyclists can not get fines as they wear helmets .
It 's quite an interesting system.It 's great you have these strong privacy rules in place , but then when you start abusing the freedoms to avoid paying justified fines , you just put pressure on to have the laws weakened to stop them being abused in this way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We also have an automatic toll system set up in a few places (on highways entering cities, for example) to automatically scan cars' number (license) plates and send bills to the car owners.
This information is deleted as soon as the bills are paid and cannot be used by law enforcement.
There are also speed cameras all over that take photos of the driver and automatically blur out the passengers.
If you get a ticket as the car owner and you were not driving the car, then you don't have to pay it.
My wife drives my car and I driver hers, which completely eliminates these sort of fines.
Some people drive with burkas and sunglasses!
Motorcyclists cannot get fines as they wear helmets.
It's quite an interesting system.It's great you have these strong privacy rules in place, but then when you start abusing the freedoms  to avoid paying justified fines, you just put pressure on to have the laws weakened to stop them being abused in this way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31492652</id>
	<title>OOhhhhh Sweeeeet!!!!</title>
	<author>viraltus</author>
	<datestamp>1268772720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations PB!!!! Good to see time to time corporations kneeling.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations PB ! ! ! !
Good to see time to time corporations kneeling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations PB!!!!
Good to see time to time corporations kneeling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490480</id>
	<title>I'm a troll--so sue me.</title>
	<author>sbeckstead</author>
	<datestamp>1268661960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really love all the people that say they only pirate stuff 'cause the cost isn't reasonable.  Yeah, if I'm broke and I need a loaf of bread then any price is unreasonable so I'm justified in stealing it.  Screw you, pay the 2 bucks assholes.  And to the guys that say that they wouldn't have been customers anyway so they are justified in taking it I don't get how that works either.  If it costs more than you want to pay then you don't get to have it.  Simple.   If you wouldn't have bought it anyway then you still don't get to have it.
it's really simple and I don't get why you can't grasp this concept.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really love all the people that say they only pirate stuff 'cause the cost is n't reasonable .
Yeah , if I 'm broke and I need a loaf of bread then any price is unreasonable so I 'm justified in stealing it .
Screw you , pay the 2 bucks assholes .
And to the guys that say that they would n't have been customers anyway so they are justified in taking it I do n't get how that works either .
If it costs more than you want to pay then you do n't get to have it .
Simple. If you would n't have bought it anyway then you still do n't get to have it .
it 's really simple and I do n't get why you ca n't grasp this concept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really love all the people that say they only pirate stuff 'cause the cost isn't reasonable.
Yeah, if I'm broke and I need a loaf of bread then any price is unreasonable so I'm justified in stealing it.
Screw you, pay the 2 bucks assholes.
And to the guys that say that they wouldn't have been customers anyway so they are justified in taking it I don't get how that works either.
If it costs more than you want to pay then you don't get to have it.
Simple.   If you wouldn't have bought it anyway then you still don't get to have it.
it's really simple and I don't get why you can't grasp this concept.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489126</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>madsenj37</author>
	<datestamp>1268654100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As long as they price things out of a range you consider reasonable, i.e, you not only have enough money to purchase and you desire to purchase at that price, you are not what they consider a customer anyways.  They cannot expect you to buy and should not consider it lost revenue.  Maybe that is just my business school education talking though;  I have never been to law school.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as they price things out of a range you consider reasonable , i.e , you not only have enough money to purchase and you desire to purchase at that price , you are not what they consider a customer anyways .
They can not expect you to buy and should not consider it lost revenue .
Maybe that is just my business school education talking though ; I have never been to law school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as they price things out of a range you consider reasonable, i.e, you not only have enough money to purchase and you desire to purchase at that price, you are not what they consider a customer anyways.
They cannot expect you to buy and should not consider it lost revenue.
Maybe that is just my business school education talking though;  I have never been to law school.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489134</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>eclectechie</author>
	<datestamp>1268654100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can keep your games, the library has the books I don't buy, and I buy my music.

</p><p>However, money can't buy the BBC Formula 1 television coverage over here in Canada, and the TSN excerpts are abysmal.

</p><p>North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course.

</p><p>And to you wonderful people who record the BBC coverage and upload the torrents, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can keep your games , the library has the books I do n't buy , and I buy my music .
However , money ca n't buy the BBC Formula 1 television coverage over here in Canada , and the TSN excerpts are abysmal .
North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course .
And to you wonderful people who record the BBC coverage and upload the torrents , thank you , thank you , THANK YOU !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can keep your games, the library has the books I don't buy, and I buy my music.
However, money can't buy the BBC Formula 1 television coverage over here in Canada, and the TSN excerpts are abysmal.
North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course.
And to you wonderful people who record the BBC coverage and upload the torrents, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491990</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268674920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can't help but wonder how much of the decision not to appeal has to do with the European Parliaments proclamation against the ACTA.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ca n't help but wonder how much of the decision not to appeal has to do with the European Parliaments proclamation against the ACTA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can't help but wonder how much of the decision not to appeal has to do with the European Parliaments proclamation against the ACTA.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489062</id>
	<title>keep on trucking</title>
	<author>BitHive</author>
	<datestamp>1268653680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>go away you uppity socialist homophobe</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>go away you uppity socialist homophobe</tokentext>
<sentencetext>go away you uppity socialist homophobe</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489318</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268655120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who gave you the idea that you are entitled to watch back episodes for free? Is that like a basic human right or something? If you don't like their prising, buy the dvd, a tivo, or find another provider (my cable company lets me watch old episodes for free).

Just because you think something should cost less, doesn't give you the right to steal it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who gave you the idea that you are entitled to watch back episodes for free ?
Is that like a basic human right or something ?
If you do n't like their prising , buy the dvd , a tivo , or find another provider ( my cable company lets me watch old episodes for free ) .
Just because you think something should cost less , does n't give you the right to steal it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who gave you the idea that you are entitled to watch back episodes for free?
Is that like a basic human right or something?
If you don't like their prising, buy the dvd, a tivo, or find another provider (my cable company lets me watch old episodes for free).
Just because you think something should cost less, doesn't give you the right to steal it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31498406</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>IdleTime</author>
	<datestamp>1268764560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>alt.binaries.formula1<br> <br>
Much faster than torrent and all the 3 practices sessions along with the qualifying and race, including BBC pre-race shows are posted the same day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>alt.binaries.formula1 Much faster than torrent and all the 3 practices sessions along with the qualifying and race , including BBC pre-race shows are posted the same day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>alt.binaries.formula1 
Much faster than torrent and all the 3 practices sessions along with the qualifying and race, including BBC pre-race shows are posted the same day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491452</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>daveime</author>
	<datestamp>1268669220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In the UK at least, for the BBC you have *already* paid for it via the Licence Fee. For the other channels, you have *already* paid for it indirectly via advertising, which increases the prices of the goods you buy.</p><p>Anything else (i.e. claiming piracy hurts DVD box-set sales) is just double dipping / greed by the TV companies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In the UK at least , for the BBC you have * already * paid for it via the Licence Fee .
For the other channels , you have * already * paid for it indirectly via advertising , which increases the prices of the goods you buy.Anything else ( i.e .
claiming piracy hurts DVD box-set sales ) is just double dipping / greed by the TV companies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the UK at least, for the BBC you have *already* paid for it via the Licence Fee.
For the other channels, you have *already* paid for it indirectly via advertising, which increases the prices of the goods you buy.Anything else (i.e.
claiming piracy hurts DVD box-set sales) is just double dipping / greed by the TV companies.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489318</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489344</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268655300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE SOCIALISM!!!! pure and unadulterated invasion of priva....wait a minute...</p><p>That sounds pretty fair, actually...</p><p>Maybe the US should become socialist.  We'll have more freedom from government oppression!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE SOCIALISM ! ! ! !
pure and unadulterated invasion of priva....wait a minute...That sounds pretty fair , actually...Maybe the US should become socialist .
We 'll have more freedom from government oppression !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE SOCIALISM!!!!
pure and unadulterated invasion of priva....wait a minute...That sounds pretty fair, actually...Maybe the US should become socialist.
We'll have more freedom from government oppression!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488740</id>
	<title>Re:Stop stealing you fucking faggots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268651820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Times are tough. Yet, I can afford the finest and firmest shits to eat and the hunkiest, studliest faggots to buttsex with using the money I saved pirating...no, <b>stealing</b> your worthless garbage.<br> <br>

<b>Fuck you</b>, content providers. Your number's up. I have all the good content there is to have. My gigabytes and gigabytes of media that I <b>stole</b> from you is good enough to tide me over for the rest of my life. You could cut of my internet connection tomorrow and you'll still never see a fucking <b>dime</b> from me. <b>You already lost</b>. Fuck you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Times are tough .
Yet , I can afford the finest and firmest shits to eat and the hunkiest , studliest faggots to buttsex with using the money I saved pirating...no , stealing your worthless garbage .
Fuck you , content providers .
Your number 's up .
I have all the good content there is to have .
My gigabytes and gigabytes of media that I stole from you is good enough to tide me over for the rest of my life .
You could cut of my internet connection tomorrow and you 'll still never see a fucking dime from me .
You already lost .
Fuck you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Times are tough.
Yet, I can afford the finest and firmest shits to eat and the hunkiest, studliest faggots to buttsex with using the money I saved pirating...no, stealing your worthless garbage.
Fuck you, content providers.
Your number's up.
I have all the good content there is to have.
My gigabytes and gigabytes of media that I stole from you is good enough to tide me over for the rest of my life.
You could cut of my internet connection tomorrow and you'll still never see a fucking dime from me.
You already lost.
Fuck you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31492764</id>
	<title>Re:Aren't they still facing jail time?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268731980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>That's in Sweden which is the country next door to Norway.</p></div><p>Another important difference(*) is that Sweden is part of EU and Norway is not.</p><p>Pre-EU, Sweden had better protection to its citizens, now it getting worse and worse, in thirty years or so I wouldn't be surprised if it has gotten as bad as in USA.</p><p>(*) Other differences: Norway is part of NATO, Sweden is not. Norways main exports are oil products and fish, Swedens main exports are steel, wood-products, high tech and condensed milk. Norway has been a protectorate (read colony) of both Denmark and Sweden, Sweden has been in union with Denmark and partly under Danish rule during short periods, but the first Nordic union during the viking-era (Denmark, Norway and the main parts of Sweden), had its base in Norway. Norweigans and Finns use to call Sweden "big brother" as a pejorative (Finland has also been a Swedish protectoriate (now Swedish capital Stockholm was even the main base during the slave trade of hedionistic Finns from Finland to the Christian Europe, when owning Christian slaves was forbidden in pre-feodal Europe (they "fixed that" by means of legal wizardry in feodal Europe))). The Norse and Swedish langauges are nearly identical, but Norse is a very easy language to learn (1-2 years) and Swedish is an extremely difficult language to learn (few people have been able to learn how to speak or write even remotely proper Swedish as adults, with the extrordinary exception of author Theodor Kallifatides, a Greek-Swedish author that writes in the most beautiful Swedish of any living author).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's in Sweden which is the country next door to Norway.Another important difference ( * ) is that Sweden is part of EU and Norway is not.Pre-EU , Sweden had better protection to its citizens , now it getting worse and worse , in thirty years or so I would n't be surprised if it has gotten as bad as in USA .
( * ) Other differences : Norway is part of NATO , Sweden is not .
Norways main exports are oil products and fish , Swedens main exports are steel , wood-products , high tech and condensed milk .
Norway has been a protectorate ( read colony ) of both Denmark and Sweden , Sweden has been in union with Denmark and partly under Danish rule during short periods , but the first Nordic union during the viking-era ( Denmark , Norway and the main parts of Sweden ) , had its base in Norway .
Norweigans and Finns use to call Sweden " big brother " as a pejorative ( Finland has also been a Swedish protectoriate ( now Swedish capital Stockholm was even the main base during the slave trade of hedionistic Finns from Finland to the Christian Europe , when owning Christian slaves was forbidden in pre-feodal Europe ( they " fixed that " by means of legal wizardry in feodal Europe ) ) ) .
The Norse and Swedish langauges are nearly identical , but Norse is a very easy language to learn ( 1-2 years ) and Swedish is an extremely difficult language to learn ( few people have been able to learn how to speak or write even remotely proper Swedish as adults , with the extrordinary exception of author Theodor Kallifatides , a Greek-Swedish author that writes in the most beautiful Swedish of any living author ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's in Sweden which is the country next door to Norway.Another important difference(*) is that Sweden is part of EU and Norway is not.Pre-EU, Sweden had better protection to its citizens, now it getting worse and worse, in thirty years or so I wouldn't be surprised if it has gotten as bad as in USA.
(*) Other differences: Norway is part of NATO, Sweden is not.
Norways main exports are oil products and fish, Swedens main exports are steel, wood-products, high tech and condensed milk.
Norway has been a protectorate (read colony) of both Denmark and Sweden, Sweden has been in union with Denmark and partly under Danish rule during short periods, but the first Nordic union during the viking-era (Denmark, Norway and the main parts of Sweden), had its base in Norway.
Norweigans and Finns use to call Sweden "big brother" as a pejorative (Finland has also been a Swedish protectoriate (now Swedish capital Stockholm was even the main base during the slave trade of hedionistic Finns from Finland to the Christian Europe, when owning Christian slaves was forbidden in pre-feodal Europe (they "fixed that" by means of legal wizardry in feodal Europe))).
The Norse and Swedish langauges are nearly identical, but Norse is a very easy language to learn (1-2 years) and Swedish is an extremely difficult language to learn (few people have been able to learn how to speak or write even remotely proper Swedish as adults, with the extrordinary exception of author Theodor Kallifatides, a Greek-Swedish author that writes in the most beautiful Swedish of any living author).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488486</id>
	<title>Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268650620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm still going to be a rebel and buy my games, books, and music anyway. Its what all the cool kids are doing now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm still going to be a rebel and buy my games , books , and music anyway .
Its what all the cool kids are doing now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm still going to be a rebel and buy my games, books, and music anyway.
Its what all the cool kids are doing now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31495462</id>
	<title>Re:It's about time!</title>
	<author>catman</author>
	<datestamp>1268753820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Uh, no, it doesn't quite work like that. What we're afraid of is that they will start lobbying even harder to get the law changed. Disclosure regulations should make it harder for the lobbyists to throw money at the representatives, but, who knows</htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , no , it does n't quite work like that .
What we 're afraid of is that they will start lobbying even harder to get the law changed .
Disclosure regulations should make it harder for the lobbyists to throw money at the representatives , but , who knows</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, no, it doesn't quite work like that.
What we're afraid of is that they will start lobbying even harder to get the law changed.
Disclosure regulations should make it harder for the lobbyists to throw money at the representatives, but, who knows</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488510</id>
	<title>Stop stealing you fucking faggots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268650740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ante up or stick to the public domain offerings, you faggot shit eating faggot bitches.<br> <br> <br> <br> <br>Faggot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ante up or stick to the public domain offerings , you faggot shit eating faggot bitches .
Faggot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ante up or stick to the public domain offerings, you faggot shit eating faggot bitches.
Faggot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488762</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268651940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I pay a monthly Sky subscription of ~&pound;15/month.  I just signed up to sky.com's Sky Player and supplied account info so they knew it was really me, who pays my subscription.  They recognized the packages I subscribe to.  I wanted to catch up with a House, MD episode.  They wanted to charge me &pound;1.50 to 'rent' it (ie. play it once in their player).  I just torrented it.</p><p>As long as media corporations are so unreasonable, I reserve the right to say, fuck them.  Copyright law should be reformed to allow people to pay what is reasonable, then pirate on a noncommercial basis.  It's the lesser of the evils, vs. corps charging what the market will bear.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I pay a monthly Sky subscription of ~   15/month .
I just signed up to sky.com 's Sky Player and supplied account info so they knew it was really me , who pays my subscription .
They recognized the packages I subscribe to .
I wanted to catch up with a House , MD episode .
They wanted to charge me   1.50 to 'rent ' it ( ie .
play it once in their player ) .
I just torrented it.As long as media corporations are so unreasonable , I reserve the right to say , fuck them .
Copyright law should be reformed to allow people to pay what is reasonable , then pirate on a noncommercial basis .
It 's the lesser of the evils , vs. corps charging what the market will bear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I pay a monthly Sky subscription of ~£15/month.
I just signed up to sky.com's Sky Player and supplied account info so they knew it was really me, who pays my subscription.
They recognized the packages I subscribe to.
I wanted to catch up with a House, MD episode.
They wanted to charge me £1.50 to 'rent' it (ie.
play it once in their player).
I just torrented it.As long as media corporations are so unreasonable, I reserve the right to say, fuck them.
Copyright law should be reformed to allow people to pay what is reasonable, then pirate on a noncommercial basis.
It's the lesser of the evils, vs. corps charging what the market will bear.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31492490</id>
	<title>This is just delaying the inevitable..</title>
	<author>Madsy</author>
	<datestamp>1268682660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Judges from both the first case and the appeal claimed that Telenor *was* "aiding illegal copying", but that they could not be held responsible: <a href="http://www.tu.no/it/article240000.ece" title="www.tu.no" rel="nofollow">http://www.tu.no/it/article240000.ece</a> [www.tu.no]<blockquote><div><p>B&#229;de Asker og B&#230;rum tingrett og Borgarting lagmannsrett mener at Telenor medvirker til at det skjer ulovlige handlinger via The Pirate Bay, men at denne medvirkningen ikke er rettsstridig.</p></div></blockquote><p>
This is doublethink in my opinion. Simply granting access doesn't make the ISPs responsible. I can't help to feel that the courts should have been way more clear in this matter.<br> <br>

What inevitably happens, is that the media interest groups will lobby to make our ISPs liable for 'granting access' to copyrighted works. Our copyright law '&#229;ndsverksloven' is up for reform/ratification this year. And the Norwegian Data Inspectorate's main spokesperson and director Georg Apenes is leaving his post soon, making this scenario even more likely. Georg Apenes has been extremely vocal regarding our individual rights to privacy since he entered his position in 1989, and the government resents him for it. He has been a barrier for 'progress', and I really doubt whoever replaces him will have even 10\% of his integrity. Most probably they will replace him with a government-friendly, industry-friendly puppet.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Judges from both the first case and the appeal claimed that Telenor * was * " aiding illegal copying " , but that they could not be held responsible : http : //www.tu.no/it/article240000.ece [ www.tu.no ] B   de Asker og B   rum tingrett og Borgarting lagmannsrett mener at Telenor medvirker til at det skjer ulovlige handlinger via The Pirate Bay , men at denne medvirkningen ikke er rettsstridig .
This is doublethink in my opinion .
Simply granting access does n't make the ISPs responsible .
I ca n't help to feel that the courts should have been way more clear in this matter .
What inevitably happens , is that the media interest groups will lobby to make our ISPs liable for 'granting access ' to copyrighted works .
Our copyright law '   ndsverksloven ' is up for reform/ratification this year .
And the Norwegian Data Inspectorate 's main spokesperson and director Georg Apenes is leaving his post soon , making this scenario even more likely .
Georg Apenes has been extremely vocal regarding our individual rights to privacy since he entered his position in 1989 , and the government resents him for it .
He has been a barrier for 'progress ' , and I really doubt whoever replaces him will have even 10 \ % of his integrity .
Most probably they will replace him with a government-friendly , industry-friendly puppet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Judges from both the first case and the appeal claimed that Telenor *was* "aiding illegal copying", but that they could not be held responsible: http://www.tu.no/it/article240000.ece [www.tu.no]Både Asker og Bærum tingrett og Borgarting lagmannsrett mener at Telenor medvirker til at det skjer ulovlige handlinger via The Pirate Bay, men at denne medvirkningen ikke er rettsstridig.
This is doublethink in my opinion.
Simply granting access doesn't make the ISPs responsible.
I can't help to feel that the courts should have been way more clear in this matter.
What inevitably happens, is that the media interest groups will lobby to make our ISPs liable for 'granting access' to copyrighted works.
Our copyright law 'åndsverksloven' is up for reform/ratification this year.
And the Norwegian Data Inspectorate's main spokesperson and director Georg Apenes is leaving his post soon, making this scenario even more likely.
Georg Apenes has been extremely vocal regarding our individual rights to privacy since he entered his position in 1989, and the government resents him for it.
He has been a barrier for 'progress', and I really doubt whoever replaces him will have even 10\% of his integrity.
Most probably they will replace him with a government-friendly, industry-friendly puppet.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488980</id>
	<title>Re:Aren't they still facing jail time?</title>
	<author>jonbryce</author>
	<datestamp>1268653200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's in Sweden which is the country next door to Norway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's in Sweden which is the country next door to Norway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's in Sweden which is the country next door to Norway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488484</id>
	<title>All that means...</title>
	<author>JustShootMe</author>
	<datestamp>1268650620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is that they've figured out another way to accomplish the same ends.  It ain't over.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that they 've figured out another way to accomplish the same ends .
It ai n't over .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that they've figured out another way to accomplish the same ends.
It ain't over.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31493606</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268743680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, the legal defense that says you are allowed to break the law as long as you were sufficiently annoyed when you did so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , the legal defense that says you are allowed to break the law as long as you were sufficiently annoyed when you did so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, the legal defense that says you are allowed to break the law as long as you were sufficiently annoyed when you did so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488678</id>
	<title>Re:Aren't they still facing jail time?</title>
	<author>M8e</author>
	<datestamp>1268651520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are getting an appeal and the earlier judgment means nothing.</p><p>"Pirate Bay Appeal Scheduled for September 28th"<br><a href="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/88349/pirate-bay-appeal-scheduled-for-september-28th/" title="zeropaid.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zeropaid.com/news/88349/pirate-bay-appeal-scheduled-for-september-28th/</a> [zeropaid.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are getting an appeal and the earlier judgment means nothing .
" Pirate Bay Appeal Scheduled for September 28th " http : //www.zeropaid.com/news/88349/pirate-bay-appeal-scheduled-for-september-28th/ [ zeropaid.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are getting an appeal and the earlier judgment means nothing.
"Pirate Bay Appeal Scheduled for September 28th"http://www.zeropaid.com/news/88349/pirate-bay-appeal-scheduled-for-september-28th/ [zeropaid.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488874</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268652540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The reason why they keep losing in court is because of strong privacy laws in Norway.  In order to sue anyone for downloading copyrighted material, it would require the ISPs to identify users by IP addresses, something which is a very big no-no here.</p><p>We also have an automatic toll system set up in a few places (on highways entering cities, for example) to automatically scan cars' number (license) plates and send bills to the car owners.  This information is deleted as soon as the bills are paid and cannot be used by law enforcement.  There are also speed cameras all over that take photos of the driver and automatically blur out the passengers.  If you get a ticket as the car owner and you were not driving the car, then you don't have to pay it.  My wife drives my car and I driver hers, which completely eliminates these sort of fines.  Some people drive with burkas and sunglasses!  Motorcyclists cannot get fines as they wear helmets.  It's quite an interesting system.</p><p>Anyway, this topic has been slashdotted several times already, most recently <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/09/11/07/0256257/Norwegian-Court-Rules-ISP-Doesnt-Have-To-Block-The-Pirate-Bay" title="slashdot.org">here</a> [slashdot.org].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason why they keep losing in court is because of strong privacy laws in Norway .
In order to sue anyone for downloading copyrighted material , it would require the ISPs to identify users by IP addresses , something which is a very big no-no here.We also have an automatic toll system set up in a few places ( on highways entering cities , for example ) to automatically scan cars ' number ( license ) plates and send bills to the car owners .
This information is deleted as soon as the bills are paid and can not be used by law enforcement .
There are also speed cameras all over that take photos of the driver and automatically blur out the passengers .
If you get a ticket as the car owner and you were not driving the car , then you do n't have to pay it .
My wife drives my car and I driver hers , which completely eliminates these sort of fines .
Some people drive with burkas and sunglasses !
Motorcyclists can not get fines as they wear helmets .
It 's quite an interesting system.Anyway , this topic has been slashdotted several times already , most recently here [ slashdot.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason why they keep losing in court is because of strong privacy laws in Norway.
In order to sue anyone for downloading copyrighted material, it would require the ISPs to identify users by IP addresses, something which is a very big no-no here.We also have an automatic toll system set up in a few places (on highways entering cities, for example) to automatically scan cars' number (license) plates and send bills to the car owners.
This information is deleted as soon as the bills are paid and cannot be used by law enforcement.
There are also speed cameras all over that take photos of the driver and automatically blur out the passengers.
If you get a ticket as the car owner and you were not driving the car, then you don't have to pay it.
My wife drives my car and I driver hers, which completely eliminates these sort of fines.
Some people drive with burkas and sunglasses!
Motorcyclists cannot get fines as they wear helmets.
It's quite an interesting system.Anyway, this topic has been slashdotted several times already, most recently here [slashdot.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491684</id>
	<title>Support for piracy is sophomoric</title>
	<author>judeancodersfront</author>
	<datestamp>1268671560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you hate record companies then don't buy their products.

If you hate Microsoft then support the alternatives.

Eroding copyright laws hurts small companies the most. The big ones already have buckets of cash with which they can find piracy-safe revenues.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you hate record companies then do n't buy their products .
If you hate Microsoft then support the alternatives .
Eroding copyright laws hurts small companies the most .
The big ones already have buckets of cash with which they can find piracy-safe revenues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you hate record companies then don't buy their products.
If you hate Microsoft then support the alternatives.
Eroding copyright laws hurts small companies the most.
The big ones already have buckets of cash with which they can find piracy-safe revenues.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488668</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268651460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>And remember, when it comes to pseudo-property rights claimed by those who produce nothing of their own, the ends always justify the means.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And remember , when it comes to pseudo-property rights claimed by those who produce nothing of their own , the ends always justify the means .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And remember, when it comes to pseudo-property rights claimed by those who produce nothing of their own, the ends always justify the means.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31492990</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1268734860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If Norway isn't a member of the EU why would they have to implement the EU's data storage directive? Does the Norwegian government often implement EU laws anyway despite not being a member, or does this come under some separate agreement like the EFTA of which Norway is a signatory?</p><p>In a way, I'd like Norway in the EU, it'd add another more sane voice to the party, we could do with a few more of those. It'd probably be a bad thing for Norway though, as I imagine the benefits we'd gain, would be equal to the benefits Norwegians would lose I guess, so staying out is understandable!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If Norway is n't a member of the EU why would they have to implement the EU 's data storage directive ?
Does the Norwegian government often implement EU laws anyway despite not being a member , or does this come under some separate agreement like the EFTA of which Norway is a signatory ? In a way , I 'd like Norway in the EU , it 'd add another more sane voice to the party , we could do with a few more of those .
It 'd probably be a bad thing for Norway though , as I imagine the benefits we 'd gain , would be equal to the benefits Norwegians would lose I guess , so staying out is understandable !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If Norway isn't a member of the EU why would they have to implement the EU's data storage directive?
Does the Norwegian government often implement EU laws anyway despite not being a member, or does this come under some separate agreement like the EFTA of which Norway is a signatory?In a way, I'd like Norway in the EU, it'd add another more sane voice to the party, we could do with a few more of those.
It'd probably be a bad thing for Norway though, as I imagine the benefits we'd gain, would be equal to the benefits Norwegians would lose I guess, so staying out is understandable!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31492680</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>mpe</author>
	<datestamp>1268730180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>However, money can't buy the BBC Formula 1 television coverage over here in Canada, and the TSN excerpts are abysmal.</i> <br> <br>At least not without having to physically travel. In which case your money would go to the airline and hotel industries.<br> <br> <i>North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course.
<br>
And to you wonderful people who record the BBC coverage and upload the torrents, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!</i> <br> <br>No doubt F1 fans all over the world appreciate such torrents. There's clearly an untapped market for global distribution of television. The "industry" is shooting itself in the foot through having regional and staggered distribution models. Some "staggering" would make sense due to timezone differences, but this is measured in hours rather than days, weeks, months (even years).</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , money ca n't buy the BBC Formula 1 television coverage over here in Canada , and the TSN excerpts are abysmal .
At least not without having to physically travel .
In which case your money would go to the airline and hotel industries .
North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course .
And to you wonderful people who record the BBC coverage and upload the torrents , thank you , thank you , THANK YOU !
No doubt F1 fans all over the world appreciate such torrents .
There 's clearly an untapped market for global distribution of television .
The " industry " is shooting itself in the foot through having regional and staggered distribution models .
Some " staggering " would make sense due to timezone differences , but this is measured in hours rather than days , weeks , months ( even years ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, money can't buy the BBC Formula 1 television coverage over here in Canada, and the TSN excerpts are abysmal.
At least not without having to physically travel.
In which case your money would go to the airline and hotel industries.
North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course.
And to you wonderful people who record the BBC coverage and upload the torrents, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
No doubt F1 fans all over the world appreciate such torrents.
There's clearly an untapped market for global distribution of television.
The "industry" is shooting itself in the foot through having regional and staggered distribution models.
Some "staggering" would make sense due to timezone differences, but this is measured in hours rather than days, weeks, months (even years).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489528</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>shoehornjob</author>
	<datestamp>1268656440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is that they've figured out another way to accomplish the same ends. It ain't over yet because the lawyers have resorted to injecting massive amounts of malware into the torrents.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that they 've figured out another way to accomplish the same ends .
It ai n't over yet because the lawyers have resorted to injecting massive amounts of malware into the torrents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that they've figured out another way to accomplish the same ends.
It ain't over yet because the lawyers have resorted to injecting massive amounts of malware into the torrents.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490998</id>
	<title>Phonographic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268665680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its P.h.o.n.o.g.r.a.p.h.i.c.  I misread it in the title.  Being on the internet, and the group being in Scandinavia, I was thinkin' something else.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its P.h.o.n.o.g.r.a.p.h.i.c .
I misread it in the title .
Being on the internet , and the group being in Scandinavia , I was thinkin ' something else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its P.h.o.n.o.g.r.a.p.h.i.c.
I misread it in the title.
Being on the internet, and the group being in Scandinavia, I was thinkin' something else.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491598</id>
	<title>Re:I'm a troll--so sue me.</title>
	<author>Fantastic Lad</author>
	<datestamp>1268670720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>it's really simple and I don't get why you can't grasp this concept.</p></div><p>The reason you don't get it is that you are trying to reduce a very complex question into a black/white analysis with an easy on/off answer.</p><p>This is evidence of lazy thinking or perhaps a fear of dealing with complexity, ie, the real world.  This leads to control issues; trying to shove the infinite into something safe and easily managed so that the person doing so doesn't feel threatened by it.  It is no wonder that people who think this way are so hell bent on controlling information.</p><p>Heaven forbid anything unexpected happen, or that the answer not be reducible to an easily memorized, sound-bite form!  People who puff up and strut around with all the answers are generally the most insecure people in the world with a ton of shielding in place to prevent their fragile egos from getting pulverized by the onslaught of reality.</p><p>The courageous surf the waves.  Cowards denounce the ocean.</p><p>-FL</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's really simple and I do n't get why you ca n't grasp this concept.The reason you do n't get it is that you are trying to reduce a very complex question into a black/white analysis with an easy on/off answer.This is evidence of lazy thinking or perhaps a fear of dealing with complexity , ie , the real world .
This leads to control issues ; trying to shove the infinite into something safe and easily managed so that the person doing so does n't feel threatened by it .
It is no wonder that people who think this way are so hell bent on controlling information.Heaven forbid anything unexpected happen , or that the answer not be reducible to an easily memorized , sound-bite form !
People who puff up and strut around with all the answers are generally the most insecure people in the world with a ton of shielding in place to prevent their fragile egos from getting pulverized by the onslaught of reality.The courageous surf the waves .
Cowards denounce the ocean.-FL</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's really simple and I don't get why you can't grasp this concept.The reason you don't get it is that you are trying to reduce a very complex question into a black/white analysis with an easy on/off answer.This is evidence of lazy thinking or perhaps a fear of dealing with complexity, ie, the real world.
This leads to control issues; trying to shove the infinite into something safe and easily managed so that the person doing so doesn't feel threatened by it.
It is no wonder that people who think this way are so hell bent on controlling information.Heaven forbid anything unexpected happen, or that the answer not be reducible to an easily memorized, sound-bite form!
People who puff up and strut around with all the answers are generally the most insecure people in the world with a ton of shielding in place to prevent their fragile egos from getting pulverized by the onslaught of reality.The courageous surf the waves.
Cowards denounce the ocean.-FL
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489092</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1268653920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Good luck finding something worth buying.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Good luck finding something worth buying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good luck finding something worth buying.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490378</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268661300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What exactly do you consider reasonable.  Sounds like you want everything for free and don't care who you don't pay.  So tell me what value you add to society so I can just take it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What exactly do you consider reasonable .
Sounds like you want everything for free and do n't care who you do n't pay .
So tell me what value you add to society so I can just take it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What exactly do you consider reasonable.
Sounds like you want everything for free and don't care who you don't pay.
So tell me what value you add to society so I can just take it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489232</id>
	<title>Re:Buying politicians is cheaper</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268654700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that in Norway, campaign contributions generally bring backlash. We're talking about the country where teleprompters met with public outrage and have not yet caught on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that in Norway , campaign contributions generally bring backlash .
We 're talking about the country where teleprompters met with public outrage and have not yet caught on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that in Norway, campaign contributions generally bring backlash.
We're talking about the country where teleprompters met with public outrage and have not yet caught on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490164</id>
	<title>Re:Stop stealing you fucking faggots</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1268660040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>"My gigabytes and gigabytes of media that I stole from you is good enough to tide me over for the rest of my life. "</p></div></blockquote><p>You've <b>stolen</b> from them? As in film reels, tapes, and hard disks? If so, you deserve to do jailtime.</p><p>If by "stole" you mean "downloaded" then you have stolen <i>nothing</i>. You have infringed on copyrights, which may or may not be legal in your locale. You might have deprived a lackey at one of those production houses (record label, movie producer, TV producer, etc.) a job or a raise, but come on. You've stolen nothing.</p><p>If you're so intent on getting stuff for free, why not turn to Pandora, crackle, hulu, and the like? There is a lot of free content up there.  By doing what you're doing, and bragging about it with that attitude you have, you are only giving the MPAA and RIAA ammo to say "See? See? This kind of asshattery is why P2P should be illegal."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" My gigabytes and gigabytes of media that I stole from you is good enough to tide me over for the rest of my life .
" You 've stolen from them ?
As in film reels , tapes , and hard disks ?
If so , you deserve to do jailtime.If by " stole " you mean " downloaded " then you have stolen nothing .
You have infringed on copyrights , which may or may not be legal in your locale .
You might have deprived a lackey at one of those production houses ( record label , movie producer , TV producer , etc .
) a job or a raise , but come on .
You 've stolen nothing.If you 're so intent on getting stuff for free , why not turn to Pandora , crackle , hulu , and the like ?
There is a lot of free content up there .
By doing what you 're doing , and bragging about it with that attitude you have , you are only giving the MPAA and RIAA ammo to say " See ?
See ? This kind of asshattery is why P2P should be illegal .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"My gigabytes and gigabytes of media that I stole from you is good enough to tide me over for the rest of my life.
"You've stolen from them?
As in film reels, tapes, and hard disks?
If so, you deserve to do jailtime.If by "stole" you mean "downloaded" then you have stolen nothing.
You have infringed on copyrights, which may or may not be legal in your locale.
You might have deprived a lackey at one of those production houses (record label, movie producer, TV producer, etc.
) a job or a raise, but come on.
You've stolen nothing.If you're so intent on getting stuff for free, why not turn to Pandora, crackle, hulu, and the like?
There is a lot of free content up there.
By doing what you're doing, and bragging about it with that attitude you have, you are only giving the MPAA and RIAA ammo to say "See?
See? This kind of asshattery is why P2P should be illegal.
"
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488562</id>
	<title>Buying politicians is cheaper</title>
	<author>schwit1</author>
	<datestamp>1268650980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The path of least resistance to the ends they want is via campaign contributions and scare-tactic(child pron, terrorism, etc) lobbying.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The path of least resistance to the ends they want is via campaign contributions and scare-tactic ( child pron , terrorism , etc ) lobbying .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The path of least resistance to the ends they want is via campaign contributions and scare-tactic(child pron, terrorism, etc) lobbying.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31489020</id>
	<title>Re:All that means...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268653440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a socialist nightmare!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a socialist nightmare !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a socialist nightmare!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488874</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490744</id>
	<title>Re:Stop stealing you fucking faggots</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268663820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You did a great job of putting into words the real heartfelt emotion of how I feel about why I pirate content, and how I could give a shit about copyright perverters complaining about my file-sharing that enhances the value of their media while they drive away in their beamers, benzes, and lexus while I worry about my son's college education.</p><p>Awesome job, bud!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You did a great job of putting into words the real heartfelt emotion of how I feel about why I pirate content , and how I could give a shit about copyright perverters complaining about my file-sharing that enhances the value of their media while they drive away in their beamers , benzes , and lexus while I worry about my son 's college education.Awesome job , bud !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You did a great job of putting into words the real heartfelt emotion of how I feel about why I pirate content, and how I could give a shit about copyright perverters complaining about my file-sharing that enhances the value of their media while they drive away in their beamers, benzes, and lexus while I worry about my son's college education.Awesome job, bud!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490076</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268659500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course.</p></div></blockquote><p>Yeah, for some fucked-up definition of the word "need".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course.Yeah , for some fucked-up definition of the word " need " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>North American Formula 1 fans NEED torrents to get what the people of Great Britain get as a matter of course.Yeah, for some fucked-up definition of the word "need".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31488490</id>
	<title>It's about time!</title>
	<author>KennyP</author>
	<datestamp>1268650620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why sue when you know you're gonna LOSE?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why sue when you know you 're gon na LOSE ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why sue when you know you're gonna LOSE?</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31490572</id>
	<title>Re:Meh...</title>
	<author>TimHunter</author>
	<datestamp>1268662560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As long as media corporations are so unreasonable, I reserve the right to say, fuck them.</p></div><p>
Fuck yeah. I say, "Media corporations, you're so unreasonable I don't want your damn content. Keep it. I'll find some other way to entertain myself."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As long as media corporations are so unreasonable , I reserve the right to say , fuck them .
Fuck yeah .
I say , " Media corporations , you 're so unreasonable I do n't want your damn content .
Keep it .
I 'll find some other way to entertain myself .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As long as media corporations are so unreasonable, I reserve the right to say, fuck them.
Fuck yeah.
I say, "Media corporations, you're so unreasonable I don't want your damn content.
Keep it.
I'll find some other way to entertain myself.
"
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31493430</id>
	<title>Re:I'm a troll--so sue me.</title>
	<author>jellyfrog</author>
	<datestamp>1268741700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If it costs more than you want to pay then you don't get to have it. Simple. If you wouldn't have bought it anyway then you still don't get to have it.</p></div><p>And why would that be? Can you justify this rule?</p><p>This may be news to you, but laws and rules generally have to have a reason to exist. The law against stealing bread exists for a reason - because stealing harms the person you steal from - it doesn't exist for its own sake. How does downloading something one would never have otherwise paid for harm anyone? It doesn't. Ergo, there is no moral reason for this to be forbidden by law, and no moral reason not to do it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If it costs more than you want to pay then you do n't get to have it .
Simple. If you would n't have bought it anyway then you still do n't get to have it.And why would that be ?
Can you justify this rule ? This may be news to you , but laws and rules generally have to have a reason to exist .
The law against stealing bread exists for a reason - because stealing harms the person you steal from - it does n't exist for its own sake .
How does downloading something one would never have otherwise paid for harm anyone ?
It does n't .
Ergo , there is no moral reason for this to be forbidden by law , and no moral reason not to do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If it costs more than you want to pay then you don't get to have it.
Simple. If you wouldn't have bought it anyway then you still don't get to have it.And why would that be?
Can you justify this rule?This may be news to you, but laws and rules generally have to have a reason to exist.
The law against stealing bread exists for a reason - because stealing harms the person you steal from - it doesn't exist for its own sake.
How does downloading something one would never have otherwise paid for harm anyone?
It doesn't.
Ergo, there is no moral reason for this to be forbidden by law, and no moral reason not to do it.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_15_2041258.31491690</id>
	<title>Rather irrelevant but - The article's pirate logo</title>
	<author>unity100</author>
	<datestamp>1268671680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>- why is it looking so sad ? and down ? on behalf of pirates worldwide, i protest.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>- why is it looking so sad ?
and down ?
on behalf of pirates worldwide , i protest .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>- why is it looking so sad ?
and down ?
on behalf of pirates worldwide, i protest.</sentencetext>
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