<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_12_0910251</id>
	<title>Sony Begins Selling HD Movies On Its PSN</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1268396760000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>itwbennett writes <i>"Sony on Tuesday 'rolled out the ability to <a href="http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/99858/sony-begins-selling-hd-movies-its-psn">buy HD movies from the PlayStation Network</a>,' writes blogger Peter Smith. <a href="http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/from-movie-theater-to-home-theater-playstationrnetwork-delivers-high-definition-movies-from-six-major-movie-studios-in-the-united-states-87117557.html">Sony claims</a> they're the first service to offer HD titles to own from all six major movie studios. Smith runs the numbers on 'standard' pricing for titles ($19.99 for new releases; $17.99 for older movies), file sizes (ranging from 4 GB for <em>Zombieland</em> to 7.5 GB for <em>2012</em>), and resolution (720P as far as he can tell)."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>itwbennett writes " Sony on Tuesday 'rolled out the ability to buy HD movies from the PlayStation Network, ' writes blogger Peter Smith .
Sony claims they 're the first service to offer HD titles to own from all six major movie studios .
Smith runs the numbers on 'standard ' pricing for titles ( $ 19.99 for new releases ; $ 17.99 for older movies ) , file sizes ( ranging from 4 GB for Zombieland to 7.5 GB for 2012 ) , and resolution ( 720P as far as he can tell ) .
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<sentencetext>itwbennett writes "Sony on Tuesday 'rolled out the ability to buy HD movies from the PlayStation Network,' writes blogger Peter Smith.
Sony claims they're the first service to offer HD titles to own from all six major movie studios.
Smith runs the numbers on 'standard' pricing for titles ($19.99 for new releases; $17.99 for older movies), file sizes (ranging from 4 GB for Zombieland to 7.5 GB for 2012), and resolution (720P as far as he can tell).
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31460388</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do you own the games you buy from Steam?  It's the same deal.  All the PSNs content is like this you can redownload stuff if your HDD crashes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do you own the games you buy from Steam ?
It 's the same deal .
All the PSNs content is like this you can redownload stuff if your HDD crashes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do you own the games you buy from Steam?
It's the same deal.
All the PSNs content is like this you can redownload stuff if your HDD crashes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450796</id>
	<title>H.264 vs. MPEG-2</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1268404500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>DVD uses MPEG-2 video compression. <a href="http://keyj.s2000.ws/?p=356" title="s2000.ws">This comparison</a> [s2000.ws] shows that for standard-definition material, H.264 looks as good at 1 Mbps as MPEG-2 looks at 2 Mbps. This should compensate for the HD picture (1280x720) being over twice as big as DVD (704x480).</htmltext>
<tokenext>DVD uses MPEG-2 video compression .
This comparison [ s2000.ws ] shows that for standard-definition material , H.264 looks as good at 1 Mbps as MPEG-2 looks at 2 Mbps .
This should compensate for the HD picture ( 1280x720 ) being over twice as big as DVD ( 704x480 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DVD uses MPEG-2 video compression.
This comparison [s2000.ws] shows that for standard-definition material, H.264 looks as good at 1 Mbps as MPEG-2 looks at 2 Mbps.
This should compensate for the HD picture (1280x720) being over twice as big as DVD (704x480).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450442</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450468</id>
	<title>Re:Sony is being very carful not to undercut thems</title>
	<author>Jim Hall</author>
	<datestamp>1268402100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't <em>buy</em> movies anymore - I <em>rent</em> them. I know it's a (slightly) different comparison to what you were complaining about, but renting HD movies from PSN makes a ton of sense. I hate going to the rental store to pick up a movie, only to have to drive back a day or two later to return it. My wife &amp; I prefer to pick a movie on Thursday evening (when new stuff gets posted to PSN) and if anything looks interesting, we rent a movie to watch on the weekend. It's like $4 to rent an HD movie from PSN, about the same (or less) as going to the store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't buy movies anymore - I rent them .
I know it 's a ( slightly ) different comparison to what you were complaining about , but renting HD movies from PSN makes a ton of sense .
I hate going to the rental store to pick up a movie , only to have to drive back a day or two later to return it .
My wife &amp; I prefer to pick a movie on Thursday evening ( when new stuff gets posted to PSN ) and if anything looks interesting , we rent a movie to watch on the weekend .
It 's like $ 4 to rent an HD movie from PSN , about the same ( or less ) as going to the store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't buy movies anymore - I rent them.
I know it's a (slightly) different comparison to what you were complaining about, but renting HD movies from PSN makes a ton of sense.
I hate going to the rental store to pick up a movie, only to have to drive back a day or two later to return it.
My wife &amp; I prefer to pick a movie on Thursday evening (when new stuff gets posted to PSN) and if anything looks interesting, we rent a movie to watch on the weekend.
It's like $4 to rent an HD movie from PSN, about the same (or less) as going to the store.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450298</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31452338</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1268412840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any title older than 6 minutes can be had for zero or less on the P2P network of your choice. I didn't check recently, but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't in the highest possible resolution...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any title older than 6 minutes can be had for zero or less on the P2P network of your choice .
I did n't check recently , but I 'd be very surprised if it was n't in the highest possible resolution.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any title older than 6 minutes can be had for zero or less on the P2P network of your choice.
I didn't check recently, but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't in the highest possible resolution...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450440</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450444</id>
	<title>Re:The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268401920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can get Zombieland for free at tpb that will not get dusty<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can get Zombieland for free at tpb that will not get dusty .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can get Zombieland for free at tpb that will not get dusty ...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450314</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450516</id>
	<title>Re:The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>1000101</author>
	<datestamp>1268402400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>You can get Zombieland on blu-ray at Amazon for $23.49. It's yours, you can loan it, sell it, make backups (shhhh), etc. Plus it's in full 1080p. Who the frick would buy a "virtual" copy for nearly the same price?
</i>
<br> <br>
Who the frick would pay $23.49 for Zombieland (or any other movie for that matter)?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can get Zombieland on blu-ray at Amazon for $ 23.49 .
It 's yours , you can loan it , sell it , make backups ( shhhh ) , etc .
Plus it 's in full 1080p .
Who the frick would buy a " virtual " copy for nearly the same price ?
Who the frick would pay $ 23.49 for Zombieland ( or any other movie for that matter ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can get Zombieland on blu-ray at Amazon for $23.49.
It's yours, you can loan it, sell it, make backups (shhhh), etc.
Plus it's in full 1080p.
Who the frick would buy a "virtual" copy for nearly the same price?
Who the frick would pay $23.49 for Zombieland (or any other movie for that matter)?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450314</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31452084</id>
	<title>Re:The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268411640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is completely stupid, the idea here is not to sell movies, but to be able to say "you see we tried that internet thing, it doesn't work, let's sue our customers instead !"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is completely stupid , the idea here is not to sell movies , but to be able to say " you see we tried that internet thing , it does n't work , let 's sue our customers instead !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is completely stupid, the idea here is not to sell movies, but to be able to say "you see we tried that internet thing, it doesn't work, let's sue our customers instead !
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31452698</id>
	<title>Fucking ripoffs</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268414580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously? They finally make this available, the service I've wanted for ages and they charge 19.99$ for a movie? Fuck that. 10USD is sufficient for a digital copy of a movie, they need to stop being ripoffs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously ?
They finally make this available , the service I 've wanted for ages and they charge 19.99 $ for a movie ?
Fuck that .
10USD is sufficient for a digital copy of a movie , they need to stop being ripoffs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously?
They finally make this available, the service I've wanted for ages and they charge 19.99$ for a movie?
Fuck that.
10USD is sufficient for a digital copy of a movie, they need to stop being ripoffs.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31452478</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268413380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Luddite<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Luddite ; P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Luddite ;P</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450690</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31451404</id>
	<title>sony rootkit</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268408280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sony\_rootkit" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sony\_rootkit</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>never forget, never forgive</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sony \ _rootkit [ wikipedia.org ] never forget , never forgive</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sony\_rootkit [wikipedia.org]never forget, never forgive</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31454270</id>
	<title>Haha!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268422020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget about the limited amount of times you can download your movie, until you need to buy another $20 license.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget about the limited amount of times you can download your movie , until you need to buy another $ 20 license .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget about the limited amount of times you can download your movie, until you need to buy another $20 license.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450442</id>
	<title>HD?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268401860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It may be 720p, but if the file is no larger than 7.5 GB, it'll be compressed all to hell, and no better than DVD.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It may be 720p , but if the file is no larger than 7.5 GB , it 'll be compressed all to hell , and no better than DVD .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It may be 720p, but if the file is no larger than 7.5 GB, it'll be compressed all to hell, and no better than DVD.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31453848</id>
	<title>prices</title>
	<author>bugi</author>
	<datestamp>1268419980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1) what price?</p><p>2) gouge them</p><p>1) what?</p><p>2) let's see what the market will bear</p><p>1) not a little excessive?</p><p>2) if it works it'll pay off big</p><p>2) and besides we can refuse to sell to anybody who undercuts us</p><p>1) no B-movie bargain bin at walmart.  sweet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 ) what price ? 2 ) gouge them1 ) what ? 2 ) let 's see what the market will bear1 ) not a little excessive ? 2 ) if it works it 'll pay off big2 ) and besides we can refuse to sell to anybody who undercuts us1 ) no B-movie bargain bin at walmart .
sweet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1) what price?2) gouge them1) what?2) let's see what the market will bear1) not a little excessive?2) if it works it'll pay off big2) and besides we can refuse to sell to anybody who undercuts us1) no B-movie bargain bin at walmart.
sweet!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450298</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450538</id>
	<title>PhysicalDigital</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268402580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I will never understand why companies believe that we will pay the same price for an electronic download.  When it cuts out the shipping and manufacturing cost for them vrs physical media...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I will never understand why companies believe that we will pay the same price for an electronic download .
When it cuts out the shipping and manufacturing cost for them vrs physical media.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I will never understand why companies believe that we will pay the same price for an electronic download.
When it cuts out the shipping and manufacturing cost for them vrs physical media...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450470</id>
	<title>Post-PS3?</title>
	<author>lyinhart</author>
	<datestamp>1268402100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So... what happens to the downloaded movies that you've "bought" once the inevitable PS4 comes out? Would you be able to redownload the films or simply move the old hard drive into the new device? For all we know, Sony's license to distribute the films may not cover successive devices.<br> <br>

Of course, then there's the matter of downloaded content on other systems like the Xbox 360...</htmltext>
<tokenext>So... what happens to the downloaded movies that you 've " bought " once the inevitable PS4 comes out ?
Would you be able to redownload the films or simply move the old hard drive into the new device ?
For all we know , Sony 's license to distribute the films may not cover successive devices .
Of course , then there 's the matter of downloaded content on other systems like the Xbox 360.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So... what happens to the downloaded movies that you've "bought" once the inevitable PS4 comes out?
Would you be able to redownload the films or simply move the old hard drive into the new device?
For all we know, Sony's license to distribute the films may not cover successive devices.
Of course, then there's the matter of downloaded content on other systems like the Xbox 360...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450862</id>
	<title>Awesome.</title>
	<author>SphericalCrusher</author>
	<datestamp>1268404980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Good thing I just slapped in that new 500GB hard drive to my PS3. w00t w00t.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Good thing I just slapped in that new 500GB hard drive to my PS3 .
w00t w00t .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Good thing I just slapped in that new 500GB hard drive to my PS3.
w00t w00t.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31451810</id>
	<title>Excruciating download speeds on PSN</title>
	<author>Luchio</author>
	<datestamp>1268410260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Each time I do PS3 firmware or game updates, it takes forever to download close to 200 MB; something like a FULL HOUR.  So, if I download a full movie from those servers, I'm not going to be able to watch it before a few days?</p><p>Sony, upgrade your canadian server park!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Each time I do PS3 firmware or game updates , it takes forever to download close to 200 MB ; something like a FULL HOUR .
So , if I download a full movie from those servers , I 'm not going to be able to watch it before a few days ? Sony , upgrade your canadian server park !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Each time I do PS3 firmware or game updates, it takes forever to download close to 200 MB; something like a FULL HOUR.
So, if I download a full movie from those servers, I'm not going to be able to watch it before a few days?Sony, upgrade your canadian server park!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450438</id>
	<title>The PSN service</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268401800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The PSN service has an upper bitrate limitation of 20Mb/s and supports full 1080p content, the quality/bitrate will scale with time and connectivity.  As far as devices/DRM are concerned, as long as you live in a Sony world you will be fine.  Keep an eye out for BiVL announcements (google BIVL) and you will see some (but not all) of where it is all headed with direct device support (not PS3) and sharing between devices.  It is not different than what apple is doing so put away the proprietary Sony hate and try to understand that Sony, like Apple, is just trying to be an alternative channel of content for your daily consumption of media.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The PSN service has an upper bitrate limitation of 20Mb/s and supports full 1080p content , the quality/bitrate will scale with time and connectivity .
As far as devices/DRM are concerned , as long as you live in a Sony world you will be fine .
Keep an eye out for BiVL announcements ( google BIVL ) and you will see some ( but not all ) of where it is all headed with direct device support ( not PS3 ) and sharing between devices .
It is not different than what apple is doing so put away the proprietary Sony hate and try to understand that Sony , like Apple , is just trying to be an alternative channel of content for your daily consumption of media .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The PSN service has an upper bitrate limitation of 20Mb/s and supports full 1080p content, the quality/bitrate will scale with time and connectivity.
As far as devices/DRM are concerned, as long as you live in a Sony world you will be fine.
Keep an eye out for BiVL announcements (google BIVL) and you will see some (but not all) of where it is all headed with direct device support (not PS3) and sharing between devices.
It is not different than what apple is doing so put away the proprietary Sony hate and try to understand that Sony, like Apple, is just trying to be an alternative channel of content for your daily consumption of media.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450406</id>
	<title>Re:Sony is being very carful not to undercut thems</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268401560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget download size, some of us have download quotas.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget download size , some of us have download quotas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget download size, some of us have download quotas.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450298</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450690</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>IBBoard</author>
	<datestamp>1268403780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>72"? 65"? 50"? 42"? They're not "televisions" they're "room dominating behemoths equivalent to a home cinema screen"! Sizes in the 20s and low 30s are TVs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>72 " ?
65 " ? 50 " ?
42 " ? They 're not " televisions " they 're " room dominating behemoths equivalent to a home cinema screen " !
Sizes in the 20s and low 30s are TVs ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>72"?
65"? 50"?
42"? They're not "televisions" they're "room dominating behemoths equivalent to a home cinema screen"!
Sizes in the 20s and low 30s are TVs ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450298</id>
	<title>Sony is being very carful not to undercut themself</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268400540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's see:</p><p>-Lengthy download instead of a trip to the store.<br>-Price comparable to a Bluray off of Amazon.<br>-Quality less than Bluray.<br>-Limited to watching it on my PS3.</p><p>Sounds like a real winner, Sony!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's see : -Lengthy download instead of a trip to the store.-Price comparable to a Bluray off of Amazon.-Quality less than Bluray.-Limited to watching it on my PS3.Sounds like a real winner , Sony !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's see:-Lengthy download instead of a trip to the store.-Price comparable to a Bluray off of Amazon.-Quality less than Bluray.-Limited to watching it on my PS3.Sounds like a real winner, Sony!</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450440</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>Moryath</author>
	<datestamp>1268401860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any title older than 6 months, can be had for $8 or less off Amazon Used. Sure that's the DVD and not Blu-ray, but you also have to factor in that a decent upsampling DVD player versus "blu-ray" isn't noticeably different on anything less than a 72" tv at couch distance.</p><p>But hey, Sony doesn't care I suppose. If you were dumb enough to shell out the cash for the PS3, you're probably dumb enough to pay those prices for movies you don't even get to really own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any title older than 6 months , can be had for $ 8 or less off Amazon Used .
Sure that 's the DVD and not Blu-ray , but you also have to factor in that a decent upsampling DVD player versus " blu-ray " is n't noticeably different on anything less than a 72 " tv at couch distance.But hey , Sony does n't care I suppose .
If you were dumb enough to shell out the cash for the PS3 , you 're probably dumb enough to pay those prices for movies you do n't even get to really own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any title older than 6 months, can be had for $8 or less off Amazon Used.
Sure that's the DVD and not Blu-ray, but you also have to factor in that a decent upsampling DVD player versus "blu-ray" isn't noticeably different on anything less than a 72" tv at couch distance.But hey, Sony doesn't care I suppose.
If you were dumb enough to shell out the cash for the PS3, you're probably dumb enough to pay those prices for movies you don't even get to really own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450736</id>
	<title>Re:HD?</title>
	<author>ThisIsAnonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268404080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've converted a bunch of 1080p BR movies down to 720p at a bitrate of around 5000kbps.  I've tested all sorts of different bitrates and  I can't notice a difference between 5000kbps and 8000kbps - 9000kbps etc. (other than in a few specific scenes).  At 5000kbps, all of the files that I've converted have been between 3.5 GB and 5 GB.  I'd say that 7.5 GB will look fine and probably a lot better than DVD.  I know all of my rips look much better than any DVD that I've compared them to.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've converted a bunch of 1080p BR movies down to 720p at a bitrate of around 5000kbps .
I 've tested all sorts of different bitrates and I ca n't notice a difference between 5000kbps and 8000kbps - 9000kbps etc .
( other than in a few specific scenes ) .
At 5000kbps , all of the files that I 've converted have been between 3.5 GB and 5 GB .
I 'd say that 7.5 GB will look fine and probably a lot better than DVD .
I know all of my rips look much better than any DVD that I 've compared them to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've converted a bunch of 1080p BR movies down to 720p at a bitrate of around 5000kbps.
I've tested all sorts of different bitrates and  I can't notice a difference between 5000kbps and 8000kbps - 9000kbps etc.
(other than in a few specific scenes).
At 5000kbps, all of the files that I've converted have been between 3.5 GB and 5 GB.
I'd say that 7.5 GB will look fine and probably a lot better than DVD.
I know all of my rips look much better than any DVD that I've compared them to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31451766</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268410080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>and I wouldn't count on being able to watch them around the end of February either</htmltext>
<tokenext>and I would n't count on being able to watch them around the end of February either</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and I wouldn't count on being able to watch them around the end of February either</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31453462</id>
	<title>Regardless of this</title>
	<author>Theoboley</author>
	<datestamp>1268418180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't Bluray disks usually come with a "downloadable" version of the movie anyway?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't Bluray disks usually come with a " downloadable " version of the movie anyway ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't Bluray disks usually come with a "downloadable" version of the movie anyway?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31451546</id>
	<title>Re:Sony is being very carful not to undercut thems</title>
	<author>CopaceticOpus</author>
	<datestamp>1268409060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> -Lengthy download instead of a trip to the store.<br>-Price comparable to a Bluray off of Amazon.<br>-Quality less than Bluray.<br>-Limited to watching it on my PS3.</p></div></blockquote><p>But wait, there's more!</p><p>-Quickly fill up your PS3 hard drive.<br>-Wonder what happens if your hard drive crashes or if you want to switch to another console.<br>-No more saving money by selling a movie or by buying movies used.<br>-No more borrowing movies among friends.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>-Lengthy download instead of a trip to the store.-Price comparable to a Bluray off of Amazon.-Quality less than Bluray.-Limited to watching it on my PS3.But wait , there 's more ! -Quickly fill up your PS3 hard drive.-Wonder what happens if your hard drive crashes or if you want to switch to another console.-No more saving money by selling a movie or by buying movies used.-No more borrowing movies among friends .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> -Lengthy download instead of a trip to the store.-Price comparable to a Bluray off of Amazon.-Quality less than Bluray.-Limited to watching it on my PS3.But wait, there's more!-Quickly fill up your PS3 hard drive.-Wonder what happens if your hard drive crashes or if you want to switch to another console.-No more saving money by selling a movie or by buying movies used.-No more borrowing movies among friends.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450624</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1268403180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I seriously doubt there is, which makes this just a really expensive rental service.</p></div></blockquote><p>Absolutely. There is absolutely 0 difference between this service and a movie-rental service. None.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I seriously doubt there is , which makes this just a really expensive rental service.Absolutely .
There is absolutely 0 difference between this service and a movie-rental service .
None .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seriously doubt there is, which makes this just a really expensive rental service.Absolutely.
There is absolutely 0 difference between this service and a movie-rental service.
None.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31452572</id>
	<title>Why the price premium?</title>
	<author>scorp1us</author>
	<datestamp>1268413860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is any HD movie worth a 50\% premium over SD? $2 more (to rent, $3.99 SD, $5.99HD)?</p><p>When I first saw the Matrix on a very low-quality rip, it was not substantially changed by the DVD version, or even my current Blu-Ray version (thanks WB for the HD/BluRay swap!) . It is rather appalling when Netflix is on the same system and you get streaming movies for $8/mo.  That's what, 2 SD rentals? If Sony priced the HD rentals at SD rates, they might actually compete with the value proposition of Netflix.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is any HD movie worth a 50 \ % premium over SD ?
$ 2 more ( to rent , $ 3.99 SD , $ 5.99HD ) ? When I first saw the Matrix on a very low-quality rip , it was not substantially changed by the DVD version , or even my current Blu-Ray version ( thanks WB for the HD/BluRay swap !
) .
It is rather appalling when Netflix is on the same system and you get streaming movies for $ 8/mo .
That 's what , 2 SD rentals ?
If Sony priced the HD rentals at SD rates , they might actually compete with the value proposition of Netflix .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is any HD movie worth a 50\% premium over SD?
$2 more (to rent, $3.99 SD, $5.99HD)?When I first saw the Matrix on a very low-quality rip, it was not substantially changed by the DVD version, or even my current Blu-Ray version (thanks WB for the HD/BluRay swap!
) .
It is rather appalling when Netflix is on the same system and you get streaming movies for $8/mo.
That's what, 2 SD rentals?
If Sony priced the HD rentals at SD rates, they might actually compete with the value proposition of Netflix.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450314</id>
	<title>The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268400720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can get Zombieland on blu-ray at Amazon for $23.49.  It's yours, you can loan it, sell it, make backups (shhhh), etc.  Plus it's in full 1080p.  Who the frick would buy a "virtual" copy for nearly the same price?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can get Zombieland on blu-ray at Amazon for $ 23.49 .
It 's yours , you can loan it , sell it , make backups ( shhhh ) , etc .
Plus it 's in full 1080p .
Who the frick would buy a " virtual " copy for nearly the same price ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can get Zombieland on blu-ray at Amazon for $23.49.
It's yours, you can loan it, sell it, make backups (shhhh), etc.
Plus it's in full 1080p.
Who the frick would buy a "virtual" copy for nearly the same price?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31477864</id>
	<title>Re:The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268585100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't mind the MS Zune video model, a couple of bucks and you can watch the movie for 24 hours. Just like renting from the video store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't mind the MS Zune video model , a couple of bucks and you can watch the movie for 24 hours .
Just like renting from the video store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't mind the MS Zune video model, a couple of bucks and you can watch the movie for 24 hours.
Just like renting from the video store.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31459612</id>
	<title>Seems pretty expensive to me ...</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1268401560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>$20? Yoiks. That's a whole lot, though I can see it for a new movie, if I really wanted to see it, and ended up missing it in the theater, and have lots of good trusted reviews in favor. (The recent Sherlock Holmes movie is in that general category, for me -- but not many movies are.)</p><p>Otherwise, well, at least for me, there are many hundreds of movies I'd like to either watch or rewatch that are available for much cheaper (incl. no-additional-free, such as at the local library, and used, and on sale), and I can't imagine paying $17 in 2010 dollars *by default* to watch a movie, even if it's a rewatchable download. The occasionaly one, Yeah, maybe, OK, sure, perhaps -- and maybe the cost'd seem more reasonable if I lived in a more rural place. (In a city -- and I live in one -- there are more options for entertainment, recorded or otherwise, I realize.)</p><p>timothy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>$ 20 ?
Yoiks. That 's a whole lot , though I can see it for a new movie , if I really wanted to see it , and ended up missing it in the theater , and have lots of good trusted reviews in favor .
( The recent Sherlock Holmes movie is in that general category , for me -- but not many movies are .
) Otherwise , well , at least for me , there are many hundreds of movies I 'd like to either watch or rewatch that are available for much cheaper ( incl .
no-additional-free , such as at the local library , and used , and on sale ) , and I ca n't imagine paying $ 17 in 2010 dollars * by default * to watch a movie , even if it 's a rewatchable download .
The occasionaly one , Yeah , maybe , OK , sure , perhaps -- and maybe the cost 'd seem more reasonable if I lived in a more rural place .
( In a city -- and I live in one -- there are more options for entertainment , recorded or otherwise , I realize .
) timothy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>$20?
Yoiks. That's a whole lot, though I can see it for a new movie, if I really wanted to see it, and ended up missing it in the theater, and have lots of good trusted reviews in favor.
(The recent Sherlock Holmes movie is in that general category, for me -- but not many movies are.
)Otherwise, well, at least for me, there are many hundreds of movies I'd like to either watch or rewatch that are available for much cheaper (incl.
no-additional-free, such as at the local library, and used, and on sale), and I can't imagine paying $17 in 2010 dollars *by default* to watch a movie, even if it's a rewatchable download.
The occasionaly one, Yeah, maybe, OK, sure, perhaps -- and maybe the cost'd seem more reasonable if I lived in a more rural place.
(In a city -- and I live in one -- there are more options for entertainment, recorded or otherwise, I realize.
)timothy</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450930</id>
	<title>Available internationally??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can someone let us know if its available internationally? Something like this would be a killer platform over Apple's offerings since they don't allow any legal downloads of music / video to places like Hong Kong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can someone let us know if its available internationally ?
Something like this would be a killer platform over Apple 's offerings since they do n't allow any legal downloads of music / video to places like Hong Kong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can someone let us know if its available internationally?
Something like this would be a killer platform over Apple's offerings since they don't allow any legal downloads of music / video to places like Hong Kong.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450708</id>
	<title>Re:The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1268403960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed. I would put what they are offering, at under 5 bucks. Truthfully. Since I'm paying for the bandwidth, and the storage, and they will most likely still own it, and probably be able to delete the damn thing remotely or something... 5 bucks is about all it's worth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed .
I would put what they are offering , at under 5 bucks .
Truthfully. Since I 'm paying for the bandwidth , and the storage , and they will most likely still own it , and probably be able to delete the damn thing remotely or something... 5 bucks is about all it 's worth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed.
I would put what they are offering, at under 5 bucks.
Truthfully. Since I'm paying for the bandwidth, and the storage, and they will most likely still own it, and probably be able to delete the damn thing remotely or something... 5 bucks is about all it's worth.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31458410</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268396580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, there in no real physical ownership of non-physical things at all. We don&rsquo;t &ldquo;own&rdquo; it. But they also don&rsquo;t. The ones having it <em>control</em> it. But the more there are, the harder weaker the power of the single entity, and the lower the value of what you can ask for in exchange.</p><p>Their problem is, that they use sneaky criminal methods (DRM) to try to remove it from under your ass and keep control, <em>after</em> you paid for it. Which is like buying a car, and at home noticing that it falls apart to dust, as soon as someone else drove it 3 times.<br>It&rsquo;s a crime.<br>And the other problem is, that they really believe they can achieve that. While it&rsquo;s of course circumvented on day zero. ^^</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , there in no real physical ownership of non-physical things at all .
We don    t    own    it .
But they also don    t .
The ones having it control it .
But the more there are , the harder weaker the power of the single entity , and the lower the value of what you can ask for in exchange.Their problem is , that they use sneaky criminal methods ( DRM ) to try to remove it from under your ass and keep control , after you paid for it .
Which is like buying a car , and at home noticing that it falls apart to dust , as soon as someone else drove it 3 times.It    s a crime.And the other problem is , that they really believe they can achieve that .
While it    s of course circumvented on day zero .
^ ^</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, there in no real physical ownership of non-physical things at all.
We don’t “own” it.
But they also don’t.
The ones having it control it.
But the more there are, the harder weaker the power of the single entity, and the lower the value of what you can ask for in exchange.Their problem is, that they use sneaky criminal methods (DRM) to try to remove it from under your ass and keep control, after you paid for it.
Which is like buying a car, and at home noticing that it falls apart to dust, as soon as someone else drove it 3 times.It’s a crime.And the other problem is, that they really believe they can achieve that.
While it’s of course circumvented on day zero.
^^</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450296</id>
	<title>Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>SoapBox17</author>
	<datestamp>1268400540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>To "own"?  Let's not kid ourselves here... there's no real ownership involved unless there is a way to get DRM-free files in 720p off the device using anything other than your eyeballs.

I seriously doubt there is, which makes this just a really expensive rental service.  I'm sure there are already lots of services which feature renting movies from all 6 major studios while taking your money and laughing about it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To " own " ?
Let 's not kid ourselves here... there 's no real ownership involved unless there is a way to get DRM-free files in 720p off the device using anything other than your eyeballs .
I seriously doubt there is , which makes this just a really expensive rental service .
I 'm sure there are already lots of services which feature renting movies from all 6 major studios while taking your money and laughing about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To "own"?
Let's not kid ourselves here... there's no real ownership involved unless there is a way to get DRM-free files in 720p off the device using anything other than your eyeballs.
I seriously doubt there is, which makes this just a really expensive rental service.
I'm sure there are already lots of services which feature renting movies from all 6 major studios while taking your money and laughing about it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31451518</id>
	<title>How cute, Sony rents movies for full price</title>
	<author>TravisO</author>
	<datestamp>1268408880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Welcome to Xbox 360 circa 2006, at least MS realized that DRM'd movies in a box was more of a rental than a purchase, charged you adequately and let you have the movie for 7 days.  I wasn't very excited about a $5 digital 7 day rental, but it looks like a blessing compared to Sony's $20 fee, heck this makes BlockBuster look like a good investment.

Let's also not forget consoles have a shelf life of 5yrs, and the PS3 came out in 2006 so how much longer will the majority of people will have their PS3 before they sell it.  How much you want to bet you can't re-download your movie to your PS4 without purchasing a $4.95 transport fee?  If they even allow that, remember Sony's promise that you could "upgrade" your PSP discs to digital downloads for $5, and at the last minute they pulled that and told you to pay full price.  Wake up people, Sony \_LOVES\_ the idea that you have to re-purchase things every 5yrs, or sooner.  They love the idea that you buy a $1 song on iTunes for your MP3 player, you pay $3 for it as a ring tone on your cell, you pay $2 per month to use a song as a ring back for people who call you, you pay another $5 for the music video.

Also don't forget Sony is the same company who didn't want you to rip your CD, they wanted you to buy the CD now, and in a couple years buy the songs again for your iPod.  Sony is drunk off of the "CD revolution" that made everybody replace their cassettes and vinyl, it blew their profits sky high, good for them.  But now Sony is trying to artificially recreate this scenario in the digital world out of pure greed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome to Xbox 360 circa 2006 , at least MS realized that DRM 'd movies in a box was more of a rental than a purchase , charged you adequately and let you have the movie for 7 days .
I was n't very excited about a $ 5 digital 7 day rental , but it looks like a blessing compared to Sony 's $ 20 fee , heck this makes BlockBuster look like a good investment .
Let 's also not forget consoles have a shelf life of 5yrs , and the PS3 came out in 2006 so how much longer will the majority of people will have their PS3 before they sell it .
How much you want to bet you ca n't re-download your movie to your PS4 without purchasing a $ 4.95 transport fee ?
If they even allow that , remember Sony 's promise that you could " upgrade " your PSP discs to digital downloads for $ 5 , and at the last minute they pulled that and told you to pay full price .
Wake up people , Sony \ _LOVES \ _ the idea that you have to re-purchase things every 5yrs , or sooner .
They love the idea that you buy a $ 1 song on iTunes for your MP3 player , you pay $ 3 for it as a ring tone on your cell , you pay $ 2 per month to use a song as a ring back for people who call you , you pay another $ 5 for the music video .
Also do n't forget Sony is the same company who did n't want you to rip your CD , they wanted you to buy the CD now , and in a couple years buy the songs again for your iPod .
Sony is drunk off of the " CD revolution " that made everybody replace their cassettes and vinyl , it blew their profits sky high , good for them .
But now Sony is trying to artificially recreate this scenario in the digital world out of pure greed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome to Xbox 360 circa 2006, at least MS realized that DRM'd movies in a box was more of a rental than a purchase, charged you adequately and let you have the movie for 7 days.
I wasn't very excited about a $5 digital 7 day rental, but it looks like a blessing compared to Sony's $20 fee, heck this makes BlockBuster look like a good investment.
Let's also not forget consoles have a shelf life of 5yrs, and the PS3 came out in 2006 so how much longer will the majority of people will have their PS3 before they sell it.
How much you want to bet you can't re-download your movie to your PS4 without purchasing a $4.95 transport fee?
If they even allow that, remember Sony's promise that you could "upgrade" your PSP discs to digital downloads for $5, and at the last minute they pulled that and told you to pay full price.
Wake up people, Sony \_LOVES\_ the idea that you have to re-purchase things every 5yrs, or sooner.
They love the idea that you buy a $1 song on iTunes for your MP3 player, you pay $3 for it as a ring tone on your cell, you pay $2 per month to use a song as a ring back for people who call you, you pay another $5 for the music video.
Also don't forget Sony is the same company who didn't want you to rip your CD, they wanted you to buy the CD now, and in a couple years buy the songs again for your iPod.
Sony is drunk off of the "CD revolution" that made everybody replace their cassettes and vinyl, it blew their profits sky high, good for them.
But now Sony is trying to artificially recreate this scenario in the digital world out of pure greed.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31455116</id>
	<title>A Premium..</title>
	<author>Renraku</author>
	<datestamp>1268425620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd pay a $2 premium to have the movie watchable right then AND shipped to me as the true blu-ray version.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd pay a $ 2 premium to have the movie watchable right then AND shipped to me as the true blu-ray version .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd pay a $2 premium to have the movie watchable right then AND shipped to me as the true blu-ray version.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31451296</id>
	<title>Tried it, hate it</title>
	<author>js3</author>
	<datestamp>1268407680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried this on the xbox and hated it. First you have to download about 4gigs which takes time, that's 4 gigs coming off your own internet connection if you happen to have a monthly limit. For xbox once you start watching the movie you need to finish it in like 2 days or it auto-deletes. That's right you can just watch part of it, go do something else and be like "oh I have to finish that movie I paid $$$$" for only to find out it's disappeared.</p><p>The deal breaker is the price. at 17.99$ might as well just buy the dvd/blueray and own it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried this on the xbox and hated it .
First you have to download about 4gigs which takes time , that 's 4 gigs coming off your own internet connection if you happen to have a monthly limit .
For xbox once you start watching the movie you need to finish it in like 2 days or it auto-deletes .
That 's right you can just watch part of it , go do something else and be like " oh I have to finish that movie I paid $ $ $ $ " for only to find out it 's disappeared.The deal breaker is the price .
at 17.99 $ might as well just buy the dvd/blueray and own it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried this on the xbox and hated it.
First you have to download about 4gigs which takes time, that's 4 gigs coming off your own internet connection if you happen to have a monthly limit.
For xbox once you start watching the movie you need to finish it in like 2 days or it auto-deletes.
That's right you can just watch part of it, go do something else and be like "oh I have to finish that movie I paid $$$$" for only to find out it's disappeared.The deal breaker is the price.
at 17.99$ might as well just buy the dvd/blueray and own it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31469672</id>
	<title>Re:The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>kramerd</author>
	<datestamp>1268500500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmm.</p><p>Cheaper price, less money. Why would anyone buy that?</p><p>Oh right, convenience and lower price. Plus, its a PS3, not an XBOX 360. I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a PS3 drive fail. Plus, if the hard drive fails, you can call sony, send them the failed the drive, buy a new drive from them, and get access back to your library of PS3 purchased movies. If your dvd gets a scratch on it, you are SOL.</p><p>Lets review - cheaper, available just as fast as driving somewhere without spending gas (for the vast majority of people atleast), and more reliable than a blueray disc...who modded you insightful, and why are all 6 of you so uninsightful?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmm.Cheaper price , less money .
Why would anyone buy that ? Oh right , convenience and lower price .
Plus , its a PS3 , not an XBOX 360 .
I do n't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a PS3 drive fail .
Plus , if the hard drive fails , you can call sony , send them the failed the drive , buy a new drive from them , and get access back to your library of PS3 purchased movies .
If your dvd gets a scratch on it , you are SOL.Lets review - cheaper , available just as fast as driving somewhere without spending gas ( for the vast majority of people atleast ) , and more reliable than a blueray disc...who modded you insightful , and why are all 6 of you so uninsightful ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmm.Cheaper price, less money.
Why would anyone buy that?Oh right, convenience and lower price.
Plus, its a PS3, not an XBOX 360.
I don't know anyone who knows anyone who has had a PS3 drive fail.
Plus, if the hard drive fails, you can call sony, send them the failed the drive, buy a new drive from them, and get access back to your library of PS3 purchased movies.
If your dvd gets a scratch on it, you are SOL.Lets review - cheaper, available just as fast as driving somewhere without spending gas (for the vast majority of people atleast), and more reliable than a blueray disc...who modded you insightful, and why are all 6 of you so uninsightful?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450490</id>
	<title>Re:Sony is being very carful not to undercut thems</title>
	<author>MoonBuggy</author>
	<datestamp>1268402220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Points 2,3 &amp; 4 I completely agree with. I'd add that the potential for the DRM to self destruct at some arbitrary point in the future further devalues the purchase.</p><p>I disagree with your first point, though. If they sort out DRM issues and pricing I'd find downloads to be a very convenient way of purchasing movies. Even going on a 7.5GB file size and allowing for network congestion that's a 30 minute download on my connection, and 50Mbps is not that unusual any more. Even living in a big city you're doing well if you can manage a round trip to the shops in that time. Add to that the fact that downloads are available 24/7 and I think it's a definite winner in convenience terms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Points 2,3 &amp; 4 I completely agree with .
I 'd add that the potential for the DRM to self destruct at some arbitrary point in the future further devalues the purchase.I disagree with your first point , though .
If they sort out DRM issues and pricing I 'd find downloads to be a very convenient way of purchasing movies .
Even going on a 7.5GB file size and allowing for network congestion that 's a 30 minute download on my connection , and 50Mbps is not that unusual any more .
Even living in a big city you 're doing well if you can manage a round trip to the shops in that time .
Add to that the fact that downloads are available 24/7 and I think it 's a definite winner in convenience terms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Points 2,3 &amp; 4 I completely agree with.
I'd add that the potential for the DRM to self destruct at some arbitrary point in the future further devalues the purchase.I disagree with your first point, though.
If they sort out DRM issues and pricing I'd find downloads to be a very convenient way of purchasing movies.
Even going on a 7.5GB file size and allowing for network congestion that's a 30 minute download on my connection, and 50Mbps is not that unusual any more.
Even living in a big city you're doing well if you can manage a round trip to the shops in that time.
Add to that the fact that downloads are available 24/7 and I think it's a definite winner in convenience terms.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31452766</id>
	<title>Oh wow</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268414880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many fucking sony fanbois are trolling the site today downmodding? Christ on a fucking bicycle. MOD UP. FUCK SONY.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many fucking sony fanbois are trolling the site today downmodding ?
Christ on a fucking bicycle .
MOD UP .
FUCK SONY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many fucking sony fanbois are trolling the site today downmodding?
Christ on a fucking bicycle.
MOD UP.
FUCK SONY.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31452706</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268414580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you treated the ps3 bought version as a license for the movie, which you paid for, would it still be piracy to download the blueray iso off of megasharetube?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you treated the ps3 bought version as a license for the movie , which you paid for , would it still be piracy to download the blueray iso off of megasharetube ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you treated the ps3 bought version as a license for the movie, which you paid for, would it still be piracy to download the blueray iso off of megasharetube?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31451334</id>
	<title>Re:Sony is being very carful not to undercut thems</title>
	<author>Xtravar</author>
	<datestamp>1268407920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh, most of us are limited to watching blu-rays on our PS3s, anyway.  Not that I'll do this, because I like owning the discs, but...<br>Plus, I can just download the 720p ripped version and play *that* on my PS3, if the movie isn't worth it or I haven't seen it yet.</p><p>So I agree there that their pricing is dubious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , most of us are limited to watching blu-rays on our PS3s , anyway .
Not that I 'll do this , because I like owning the discs , but...Plus , I can just download the 720p ripped version and play * that * on my PS3 , if the movie is n't worth it or I have n't seen it yet.So I agree there that their pricing is dubious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, most of us are limited to watching blu-rays on our PS3s, anyway.
Not that I'll do this, because I like owning the discs, but...Plus, I can just download the 720p ripped version and play *that* on my PS3, if the movie isn't worth it or I haven't seen it yet.So I agree there that their pricing is dubious.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31453722</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1268419380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To "own"? Let's not kid ourselves here... there's no real ownership involved unless there is a way to get DRM-free files in 720p off the device using anything other than your eyeballs. I seriously doubt there is, which makes this just a really expensive rental service. I'm sure there are already lots of services which feature renting movies from all 6 major studios while taking your money and laughing about it.</p></div><p>Really - your eyeballs can get files off a device?  So should I call you Jordi LaForge?<br> <br>

Not that I would use this service (I prefer having the physical media), but if I get to d/l it to my computer, and it resides there as long as I so choose to keep it then I own the right to view the movie as much as I want.  I don't own the movie, that ownership resides with the company that released it...but I own the right to view it.  Same thing if I buy a dvd from a store.  It's about preference. My friend prefers to have his movies on hard drive, i prefer to keep it on disk.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To " own " ?
Let 's not kid ourselves here... there 's no real ownership involved unless there is a way to get DRM-free files in 720p off the device using anything other than your eyeballs .
I seriously doubt there is , which makes this just a really expensive rental service .
I 'm sure there are already lots of services which feature renting movies from all 6 major studios while taking your money and laughing about it.Really - your eyeballs can get files off a device ?
So should I call you Jordi LaForge ?
Not that I would use this service ( I prefer having the physical media ) , but if I get to d/l it to my computer , and it resides there as long as I so choose to keep it then I own the right to view the movie as much as I want .
I do n't own the movie , that ownership resides with the company that released it...but I own the right to view it .
Same thing if I buy a dvd from a store .
It 's about preference .
My friend prefers to have his movies on hard drive , i prefer to keep it on disk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To "own"?
Let's not kid ourselves here... there's no real ownership involved unless there is a way to get DRM-free files in 720p off the device using anything other than your eyeballs.
I seriously doubt there is, which makes this just a really expensive rental service.
I'm sure there are already lots of services which feature renting movies from all 6 major studios while taking your money and laughing about it.Really - your eyeballs can get files off a device?
So should I call you Jordi LaForge?
Not that I would use this service (I prefer having the physical media), but if I get to d/l it to my computer, and it resides there as long as I so choose to keep it then I own the right to view the movie as much as I want.
I don't own the movie, that ownership resides with the company that released it...but I own the right to view it.
Same thing if I buy a dvd from a store.
It's about preference.
My friend prefers to have his movies on hard drive, i prefer to keep it on disk.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450448</id>
	<title>Re:The pricing is way off...</title>
	<author>91degrees</author>
	<datestamp>1268401920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The problem is that the movie cartels don't want to compete with themselves.  They don't care which one you buy as long as you give them the money.  Although considering the retailer markup it does seem strange that they're not able to offer these for a little less.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The problem is that the movie cartels do n't want to compete with themselves .
They do n't care which one you buy as long as you give them the money .
Although considering the retailer markup it does seem strange that they 're not able to offer these for a little less .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The problem is that the movie cartels don't want to compete with themselves.
They don't care which one you buy as long as you give them the money.
Although considering the retailer markup it does seem strange that they're not able to offer these for a little less.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31453904</id>
	<title>Re:Post-PS3?</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1268420160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't speak for the movies, but the DLC I purchased can be redownloaded at any time.  It'd be suprised if it wasn't the same with movies.  Alternatively, its possible that it gets backed up when you bakcup your ps3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't speak for the movies , but the DLC I purchased can be redownloaded at any time .
It 'd be suprised if it was n't the same with movies .
Alternatively , its possible that it gets backed up when you bakcup your ps3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't speak for the movies, but the DLC I purchased can be redownloaded at any time.
It'd be suprised if it wasn't the same with movies.
Alternatively, its possible that it gets backed up when you bakcup your ps3.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450308</id>
	<title>Pricing</title>
	<author>VisualD</author>
	<datestamp>1268400660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>With a measly $2 reduction for "older titles", one wonders why they even bothered having a tiered pricing scheme.</htmltext>
<tokenext>With a measly $ 2 reduction for " older titles " , one wonders why they even bothered having a tiered pricing scheme .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With a measly $2 reduction for "older titles", one wonders why they even bothered having a tiered pricing scheme.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450732</id>
	<title>Shipping and handling</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1268404080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You can get [some movie] on blu-ray at Amazon for $23.49.</p></div><p>The disadvantage there is you wait a week for "super saver shipping".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can get [ some movie ] on blu-ray at Amazon for $ 23.49.The disadvantage there is you wait a week for " super saver shipping " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can get [some movie] on blu-ray at Amazon for $23.49.The disadvantage there is you wait a week for "super saver shipping".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31464882</id>
	<title>Additional DRM</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268505240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You understand this comes at a cost of additional DRM: http://filesharefreak.com/2010/03/03/cinavia-drm-aimed-to-stop-piracy-on-blu-ray-ps3s/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You understand this comes at a cost of additional DRM : http : //filesharefreak.com/2010/03/03/cinavia-drm-aimed-to-stop-piracy-on-blu-ray-ps3s/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You understand this comes at a cost of additional DRM: http://filesharefreak.com/2010/03/03/cinavia-drm-aimed-to-stop-piracy-on-blu-ray-ps3s/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31456118</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1268386740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Depends on the technology.  I use a projector for watching DVDs, which takes up less physical space than the TV my parents own but provides a much bigger picture.  It's only 800x600 but, quite frankly, something slightly above VHS resolution is where I stop noticing picture quality while I'm watching a film (unless it's really boring, in which case my mind wanders and looks for artefacts).  When it dies I'll probably replace it with something that does a higher resolution if they're cheap, but it's not a particularly high priority.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Depends on the technology .
I use a projector for watching DVDs , which takes up less physical space than the TV my parents own but provides a much bigger picture .
It 's only 800x600 but , quite frankly , something slightly above VHS resolution is where I stop noticing picture quality while I 'm watching a film ( unless it 's really boring , in which case my mind wanders and looks for artefacts ) .
When it dies I 'll probably replace it with something that does a higher resolution if they 're cheap , but it 's not a particularly high priority .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Depends on the technology.
I use a projector for watching DVDs, which takes up less physical space than the TV my parents own but provides a much bigger picture.
It's only 800x600 but, quite frankly, something slightly above VHS resolution is where I stop noticing picture quality while I'm watching a film (unless it's really boring, in which case my mind wanders and looks for artefacts).
When it dies I'll probably replace it with something that does a higher resolution if they're cheap, but it's not a particularly high priority.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450820</id>
	<title>Re:Sony is being very carful not to undercut thems</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1268404680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>-Limited to watching it on my PS3.</p></div></blockquote><p>Actually, for most of us, this is a limitation common to Bluray as well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>-Limited to watching it on my PS3.Actually , for most of us , this is a limitation common to Bluray as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>-Limited to watching it on my PS3.Actually, for most of us, this is a limitation common to Bluray as well.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450410</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>drcln</author>
	<datestamp>1268401620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>To "own"?  Let's not kid ourselves here... there's no real ownership involved . .<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p></div><p>"To watch as many times as you like but only on your PS3 and only for as long as you keep your PS3 and don't erase the file or the hard drive fails or something else goes wrong" does not sound as snappy as "to own."  But, I don't mind the idea of paying for content with limitations and that won't necessarily last forever, as long as the pricing is in line with the limitations.  This pricing scheme provides no reason to buy from PSN.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>To " own " ?
Let 's not kid ourselves here... there 's no real ownership involved .
. .. " To watch as many times as you like but only on your PS3 and only for as long as you keep your PS3 and do n't erase the file or the hard drive fails or something else goes wrong " does not sound as snappy as " to own .
" But , I do n't mind the idea of paying for content with limitations and that wo n't necessarily last forever , as long as the pricing is in line with the limitations .
This pricing scheme provides no reason to buy from PSN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To "own"?
Let's not kid ourselves here... there's no real ownership involved .
. .."To watch as many times as you like but only on your PS3 and only for as long as you keep your PS3 and don't erase the file or the hard drive fails or something else goes wrong" does not sound as snappy as "to own.
"  But, I don't mind the idea of paying for content with limitations and that won't necessarily last forever, as long as the pricing is in line with the limitations.
This pricing scheme provides no reason to buy from PSN.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31454176</id>
	<title>What would you concider resonable?</title>
	<author>cdpage</author>
	<datestamp>1268421420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>how much would you be willing to pay for this?<br><br>Personally...<br><br>$9.99 Digital [new]<br>$7.99 Digital [old]<br><br>$19.99 Digital + Hard copy in the mail.</htmltext>
<tokenext>how much would you be willing to pay for this ? Personally... $ 9.99 Digital [ new ] $ 7.99 Digital [ old ] $ 19.99 Digital + Hard copy in the mail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how much would you be willing to pay for this?Personally...$9.99 Digital [new]$7.99 Digital [old]$19.99 Digital + Hard copy in the mail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450774</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>plague3106</author>
	<datestamp>1268404380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a 46" TV, and there's a noticable difference between an upscaled DVD and a bluray at 1080p.</p><p>Maybe you have a crap TV that only goes to 720p, or is 50hz or something, I don't know.</p><p>I'm also not sure what is dumb about buying a PS3; I've been very happy with mine.  A combo bluray player, game console, media player, browser, etc.  Its been well worth it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a 46 " TV , and there 's a noticable difference between an upscaled DVD and a bluray at 1080p.Maybe you have a crap TV that only goes to 720p , or is 50hz or something , I do n't know.I 'm also not sure what is dumb about buying a PS3 ; I 've been very happy with mine .
A combo bluray player , game console , media player , browser , etc .
Its been well worth it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a 46" TV, and there's a noticable difference between an upscaled DVD and a bluray at 1080p.Maybe you have a crap TV that only goes to 720p, or is 50hz or something, I don't know.I'm also not sure what is dumb about buying a PS3; I've been very happy with mine.
A combo bluray player, game console, media player, browser, etc.
Its been well worth it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0910251.31450518</id>
	<title>Re:Titles to "own"</title>
	<author>quantumplacet</author>
	<datestamp>1268402460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>There is a massive difference between DVD and blu ray on TVs a lot smaller than 72".  On my 65" it's night and day, on a 50" (which is very common for HDTV) it's unquestionably noticable, hell even on a 42" you can definitely tell the difference assuming its 1080p.  However, this service is most definitely not blu ray, and the difference between compressed 720p and an upscaled DVD is probably pretty minimal.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is a massive difference between DVD and blu ray on TVs a lot smaller than 72 " .
On my 65 " it 's night and day , on a 50 " ( which is very common for HDTV ) it 's unquestionably noticable , hell even on a 42 " you can definitely tell the difference assuming its 1080p .
However , this service is most definitely not blu ray , and the difference between compressed 720p and an upscaled DVD is probably pretty minimal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is a massive difference between DVD and blu ray on TVs a lot smaller than 72".
On my 65" it's night and day, on a 50" (which is very common for HDTV) it's unquestionably noticable, hell even on a 42" you can definitely tell the difference assuming its 1080p.
However, this service is most definitely not blu ray, and the difference between compressed 720p and an upscaled DVD is probably pretty minimal.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Comparable to Blu-Ray?</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
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	<htmltext><p>At $17.99 for older movies, it's WORSE than buying a Blu-Ray.</p><p>Most older movies have gotten down to $10-15 at Wally World, and I managed to even find some 2-packs (admittedly of made-for-TV movies) for $10.</p><p>I worry that this might affect Netflix streaming to the PS3 though - Netflix's prices blow Sony's "rental" prices away.  A 2-disc Netflix sub is only slightly more expensive than two "old release" HD "rentals".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At $ 17.99 for older movies , it 's WORSE than buying a Blu-Ray.Most older movies have gotten down to $ 10-15 at Wally World , and I managed to even find some 2-packs ( admittedly of made-for-TV movies ) for $ 10.I worry that this might affect Netflix streaming to the PS3 though - Netflix 's prices blow Sony 's " rental " prices away .
A 2-disc Netflix sub is only slightly more expensive than two " old release " HD " rentals " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At $17.99 for older movies, it's WORSE than buying a Blu-Ray.Most older movies have gotten down to $10-15 at Wally World, and I managed to even find some 2-packs (admittedly of made-for-TV movies) for $10.I worry that this might affect Netflix streaming to the PS3 though - Netflix's prices blow Sony's "rental" prices away.
A 2-disc Netflix sub is only slightly more expensive than two "old release" HD "rentals".</sentencetext>
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	<title>Couch Potato Product</title>
	<author>Technomonics</author>
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	<htmltext>Salesman: "Is getting up off the couch to put a movie into your PS3 to much of an ordeal?"
          "Do you get out of breath walking to your car to go to the store?"
          "Do you enjoy the stunning quality of VHS movies?"
          "Do you have more money than commonsense?"
          "Well then we have the perfect product for you!...."</htmltext>
<tokenext>Salesman : " Is getting up off the couch to put a movie into your PS3 to much of an ordeal ?
" " Do you get out of breath walking to your car to go to the store ?
" " Do you enjoy the stunning quality of VHS movies ?
" " Do you have more money than commonsense ?
" " Well then we have the perfect product for you ! ... .
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<sentencetext>Salesman: "Is getting up off the couch to put a movie into your PS3 to much of an ordeal?
"
          "Do you get out of breath walking to your car to go to the store?
"
          "Do you enjoy the stunning quality of VHS movies?
"
          "Do you have more money than commonsense?
"
          "Well then we have the perfect product for you!....
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