<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_12_0756237</id>
	<title>China To Tap Combustible Ice As New Energy Source</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1268388000000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>lilbridge writes <i>"Huge reserves of <a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/03/11/china-developing-combustible-ice-as-new-energy-source/">"combustible ice"</a> &mdash; frozen methane and water &mdash; have been discovered in the tundra of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau in China. Estimates show that there is enough combustible ice to provide 90 years worth of energy for China. Burning the combustible ice may be a far better alternative than letting it just melt, releasing tons of methane into the air."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>lilbridge writes " Huge reserves of " combustible ice "    frozen methane and water    have been discovered in the tundra of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau in China .
Estimates show that there is enough combustible ice to provide 90 years worth of energy for China .
Burning the combustible ice may be a far better alternative than letting it just melt , releasing tons of methane into the air .
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<sentencetext>lilbridge writes "Huge reserves of "combustible ice" — frozen methane and water — have been discovered in the tundra of the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau in China.
Estimates show that there is enough combustible ice to provide 90 years worth of energy for China.
Burning the combustible ice may be a far better alternative than letting it just melt, releasing tons of methane into the air.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31449796</id>
	<title>Cobustible ice?</title>
	<author>thijsh</author>
	<datestamp>1268392380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, when hell freezes over...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , when hell freezes over.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, when hell freezes over...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450312</id>
	<title>What about liberation time?</title>
	<author>german1981</author>
	<datestamp>1268400720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Correct me if I'm wrong but If the CO2 is liberated twenty times faster (or more) than the methane would be liberated naturally, then there is not a win-win...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Correct me if I 'm wrong but If the CO2 is liberated twenty times faster ( or more ) than the methane would be liberated naturally , then there is not a win-win.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Correct me if I'm wrong but If the CO2 is liberated twenty times faster (or more) than the methane would be liberated naturally, then there is not a win-win...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31452002</id>
	<title>Weapons of Mass Destruction</title>
	<author>tekrat</author>
	<datestamp>1268411160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, you see. Tibet had all that explosive ice -- essentially weapons of mass destruction. And this threatened China, who didn't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. So Shock and Awe was the only answer, an invasion that would only last a few weeks, and be paid for with the oil.</p><p>Oh Sorry, were we talking about CHINA? I'm sure the Chinese feel that what happened to Tibet was fo their own good, just as most Americans think what happened in Iraq was for their own good. Amazing how propaganda can influence the masses, eh? Just keep on watching Faux News and you'll even believe that 99\% of Americans don't want Health care reform...</p><p>Ah, ignorance is strength.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , you see .
Tibet had all that explosive ice -- essentially weapons of mass destruction .
And this threatened China , who did n't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud .
So Shock and Awe was the only answer , an invasion that would only last a few weeks , and be paid for with the oil.Oh Sorry , were we talking about CHINA ?
I 'm sure the Chinese feel that what happened to Tibet was fo their own good , just as most Americans think what happened in Iraq was for their own good .
Amazing how propaganda can influence the masses , eh ?
Just keep on watching Faux News and you 'll even believe that 99 \ % of Americans do n't want Health care reform...Ah , ignorance is strength .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, you see.
Tibet had all that explosive ice -- essentially weapons of mass destruction.
And this threatened China, who didn't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.
So Shock and Awe was the only answer, an invasion that would only last a few weeks, and be paid for with the oil.Oh Sorry, were we talking about CHINA?
I'm sure the Chinese feel that what happened to Tibet was fo their own good, just as most Americans think what happened in Iraq was for their own good.
Amazing how propaganda can influence the masses, eh?
Just keep on watching Faux News and you'll even believe that 99\% of Americans don't want Health care reform...Ah, ignorance is strength.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450266</id>
	<title>So when was our environment methane?</title>
	<author>cyberjock1980</author>
	<datestamp>1268400240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So when was the concentration of methane in the atmosphere so high it caused this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So when was the concentration of methane in the atmosphere so high it caused this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So when was the concentration of methane in the atmosphere so high it caused this?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450562</id>
	<title>Re:So when was our environment methane?</title>
	<author>Rogerborg</author>
	<datestamp>1268402700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never. The earth has never been as hot as it is now.  There's never been this concentration of greenhouse gases, since it's <em>utterly unpossible</em> for the biosphere to recover by itself. Only by giving massive amounts of money to Al Gore can we be saved.  Ask not why you should give, ask how much.

</p><p>You may not like that truth - it may be <em>inconvenient</em> to you - but if you deny it, I shall dub thee "Witch", and you shall be stoned in the village square.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never .
The earth has never been as hot as it is now .
There 's never been this concentration of greenhouse gases , since it 's utterly unpossible for the biosphere to recover by itself .
Only by giving massive amounts of money to Al Gore can we be saved .
Ask not why you should give , ask how much .
You may not like that truth - it may be inconvenient to you - but if you deny it , I shall dub thee " Witch " , and you shall be stoned in the village square .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never.
The earth has never been as hot as it is now.
There's never been this concentration of greenhouse gases, since it's utterly unpossible for the biosphere to recover by itself.
Only by giving massive amounts of money to Al Gore can we be saved.
Ask not why you should give, ask how much.
You may not like that truth - it may be inconvenient to you - but if you deny it, I shall dub thee "Witch", and you shall be stoned in the village square.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31452692</id>
	<title>how do they calculate</title>
	<author>racker</author>
	<datestamp>1268414520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>how does 35 Billion translate to 90 years ?

China is using 8Milion/day
8 * 365 = 2920 Million/year (2.9 Billion) (10 to the power of 9 or a thoutand million)

so 35 Billion should last for for 12 years at the current consumption.

2.9 Billion + 35 years = 261 Billion dosent come close if you use 10 to the power of 12 for the definition of a billion.</htmltext>
<tokenext>how does 35 Billion translate to 90 years ?
China is using 8Milion/day 8 * 365 = 2920 Million/year ( 2.9 Billion ) ( 10 to the power of 9 or a thoutand million ) so 35 Billion should last for for 12 years at the current consumption .
2.9 Billion + 35 years = 261 Billion dosent come close if you use 10 to the power of 12 for the definition of a billion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>how does 35 Billion translate to 90 years ?
China is using 8Milion/day
8 * 365 = 2920 Million/year (2.9 Billion) (10 to the power of 9 or a thoutand million)

so 35 Billion should last for for 12 years at the current consumption.
2.9 Billion + 35 years = 261 Billion dosent come close if you use 10 to the power of 12 for the definition of a billion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450552</id>
	<title>Re:So when was our environment methane?</title>
	<author>Eternauta3k</author>
	<datestamp>1268402700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane\_clathrate" title="wikipedia.org">wp</a> [wikipedia.org]:<p><div class="quote"><p>Methane hydrates are believed to form by migration of gas from depth along geological faults, followed by precipitation, or crystallization, on contact of the rising gas stream with cold sea water</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From wp [ wikipedia.org ] : Methane hydrates are believed to form by migration of gas from depth along geological faults , followed by precipitation , or crystallization , on contact of the rising gas stream with cold sea water</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From wp [wikipedia.org]:Methane hydrates are believed to form by migration of gas from depth along geological faults, followed by precipitation, or crystallization, on contact of the rising gas stream with cold sea water
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450266</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450282</id>
	<title>Name flipflop</title>
	<author>EdZ</author>
	<datestamp>1268400300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Over a decade ago ago when first heard of using frozen undersea methane deposits as a fuel source they were referred to as Methane Hydrate. Now, almost everywhere refers to them as Methane Clathrates. Why the change?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Over a decade ago ago when first heard of using frozen undersea methane deposits as a fuel source they were referred to as Methane Hydrate .
Now , almost everywhere refers to them as Methane Clathrates .
Why the change ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Over a decade ago ago when first heard of using frozen undersea methane deposits as a fuel source they were referred to as Methane Hydrate.
Now, almost everywhere refers to them as Methane Clathrates.
Why the change?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31452164</id>
	<title>Sounds like an interesting game of Risk</title>
	<author>darkvizier</author>
	<datestamp>1268412000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...but this is one of many possibilities 20 years from now, and probably not a likely one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but this is one of many possibilities 20 years from now , and probably not a likely one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...but this is one of many possibilities 20 years from now, and probably not a likely one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31453012</id>
	<title>Re:Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268416200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Unfortunately I doubt the U.S. or anyone else is going to come to Tibet's rescue; well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet, they might help save the environment.  </p></div><p>Every time the US attempts to rescue someone, we get flak for invading others' personal business, being an aggressor, having a nation full of ignorant pricks, etc. Why should we help anyone?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Unfortunately I doubt the U.S. or anyone else is going to come to Tibet 's rescue ; well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet , they might help save the environment .
Every time the US attempts to rescue someone , we get flak for invading others ' personal business , being an aggressor , having a nation full of ignorant pricks , etc .
Why should we help anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Unfortunately I doubt the U.S. or anyone else is going to come to Tibet's rescue; well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet, they might help save the environment.
Every time the US attempts to rescue someone, we get flak for invading others' personal business, being an aggressor, having a nation full of ignorant pricks, etc.
Why should we help anyone?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450388</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31453794</id>
	<title>Re:Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>Reziac</author>
	<datestamp>1268419680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This isn't something I'd considered before, but I think you are right about Siberia's future. How is today's defanged Russia going to defend those thousands of miles of open nothing-much? Nukes aimed at Beijing are probably their only real option (not exactly a quality outcome). The only realtime defense is that tundra becomes largely-impassable bog in summer, except by air, so on the ground it would be a winter war (and we all know how well THAT goes for invaders in Russia). As I understand it, the resources in Siberia are staggering, the problem is extracting them economically. China has enough warm bodies and the will to make anything their gov't wants economical, if only they can get their hands on it.</p><p>As to the nominal topic, it occurs to me that (ecological considerations aside) using combustible ice solves two problems: energy-hungry areas are usually also water-hungry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is n't something I 'd considered before , but I think you are right about Siberia 's future .
How is today 's defanged Russia going to defend those thousands of miles of open nothing-much ?
Nukes aimed at Beijing are probably their only real option ( not exactly a quality outcome ) .
The only realtime defense is that tundra becomes largely-impassable bog in summer , except by air , so on the ground it would be a winter war ( and we all know how well THAT goes for invaders in Russia ) .
As I understand it , the resources in Siberia are staggering , the problem is extracting them economically .
China has enough warm bodies and the will to make anything their gov't wants economical , if only they can get their hands on it.As to the nominal topic , it occurs to me that ( ecological considerations aside ) using combustible ice solves two problems : energy-hungry areas are usually also water-hungry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This isn't something I'd considered before, but I think you are right about Siberia's future.
How is today's defanged Russia going to defend those thousands of miles of open nothing-much?
Nukes aimed at Beijing are probably their only real option (not exactly a quality outcome).
The only realtime defense is that tundra becomes largely-impassable bog in summer, except by air, so on the ground it would be a winter war (and we all know how well THAT goes for invaders in Russia).
As I understand it, the resources in Siberia are staggering, the problem is extracting them economically.
China has enough warm bodies and the will to make anything their gov't wants economical, if only they can get their hands on it.As to the nominal topic, it occurs to me that (ecological considerations aside) using combustible ice solves two problems: energy-hungry areas are usually also water-hungry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31451086</id>
	<title>Re:I thought China's population is to decline?</title>
	<author>happy\_place</author>
	<datestamp>1268406360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thing is: An expanding empire's population never declines. At least not until it stops expanding...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thing is : An expanding empire 's population never declines .
At least not until it stops expanding.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thing is: An expanding empire's population never declines.
At least not until it stops expanding...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31454298</id>
	<title>Pasadena freezes over</title>
	<author>hoboroadie</author>
	<datestamp>1268422080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I helped build the stage for the Rose Bowl show. One guy slipped on frost and bounced down 60 feet of scaffolding (think Homer Simpson) then got up and went back to work. People wonder why I laugh when I hear an Eagles song.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I helped build the stage for the Rose Bowl show .
One guy slipped on frost and bounced down 60 feet of scaffolding ( think Homer Simpson ) then got up and went back to work .
People wonder why I laugh when I hear an Eagles song .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I helped build the stage for the Rose Bowl show.
One guy slipped on frost and bounced down 60 feet of scaffolding (think Homer Simpson) then got up and went back to work.
People wonder why I laugh when I hear an Eagles song.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31453034</id>
	<title>Tibet should harvest it and sell it to China</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268416320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think Tibet should harvest that energy and sell it to China and make a lot of money and use that money to improve Tibet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think Tibet should harvest that energy and sell it to China and make a lot of money and use that money to improve Tibet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think Tibet should harvest that energy and sell it to China and make a lot of money and use that money to improve Tibet.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31451176</id>
	<title>Re:Cobustible ice?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090323143858.htm" title="sciencedaily.com" rel="nofollow">Methane Hydrate</a> [sciencedaily.com], we have quite a bit of it off-shore.  It's been researched for some time, since most of our deposits are underwater, harvesting them safely is a problem.</p><p>I'm sure the environmentalists will object and sue to stop any project to tap our Methane Hydrate reserves.</p><p>The Chinese have no such problem, and wouldn't tolerate such interference even if there was a Chinese environmentalist movement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Methane Hydrate [ sciencedaily.com ] , we have quite a bit of it off-shore .
It 's been researched for some time , since most of our deposits are underwater , harvesting them safely is a problem.I 'm sure the environmentalists will object and sue to stop any project to tap our Methane Hydrate reserves.The Chinese have no such problem , and would n't tolerate such interference even if there was a Chinese environmentalist movement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Methane Hydrate [sciencedaily.com], we have quite a bit of it off-shore.
It's been researched for some time, since most of our deposits are underwater, harvesting them safely is a problem.I'm sure the environmentalists will object and sue to stop any project to tap our Methane Hydrate reserves.The Chinese have no such problem, and wouldn't tolerate such interference even if there was a Chinese environmentalist movement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31452638</id>
	<title>I for one...</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1268414160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Welcome our Chinese Ice Burning Overlords!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome our Chinese Ice Burning Overlords !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome our Chinese Ice Burning Overlords!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450334</id>
	<title>Light it on fire</title>
	<author>TheFakeMcCoy</author>
	<datestamp>1268400900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Someone go flick a match, let's see if we can get the earth back on it's axis after the Chilean earthquake, missing those 1.26 microseconds out of my day has been throwing me off all week.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Someone go flick a match , let 's see if we can get the earth back on it 's axis after the Chilean earthquake , missing those 1.26 microseconds out of my day has been throwing me off all week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Someone go flick a match, let's see if we can get the earth back on it's axis after the Chilean earthquake, missing those 1.26 microseconds out of my day has been throwing me off all week.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31453864</id>
	<title>Re:Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>517714</author>
	<datestamp>1268420040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Nuclear Winter is a myth.  Please refer to the dire predictions of Carl Sagan and his peers who predicted Nuclear Winter as the inevitable result of the the fires set by Iraq during the first Gulf War.  Apparently, physicists know little of weather prediction, though I would be hesitant to suggest that anyone question them about their predictions on global warming.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nuclear Winter is a myth .
Please refer to the dire predictions of Carl Sagan and his peers who predicted Nuclear Winter as the inevitable result of the the fires set by Iraq during the first Gulf War .
Apparently , physicists know little of weather prediction , though I would be hesitant to suggest that anyone question them about their predictions on global warming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nuclear Winter is a myth.
Please refer to the dire predictions of Carl Sagan and his peers who predicted Nuclear Winter as the inevitable result of the the fires set by Iraq during the first Gulf War.
Apparently, physicists know little of weather prediction, though I would be hesitant to suggest that anyone question them about their predictions on global warming.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31449746</id>
	<title>well yeah,</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268391660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd tap that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd tap that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd tap that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450196</id>
	<title>So Is This Why China Insists That Tibet is Theirs?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268399340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>90 Years worth of energy for the nation with the largest population in the world seems like sufficient cause for China to claim that Tibet is part of China and always has been etc, despite the fact that it has been independant for much of its history (although its also been occupied by one power or another for much of the rest of that history of course).</p><p>If Tibet had its independence this would be a terrific resource for the country to take advantage of in modernizing itself. As it stands I am sure it will be used for Chinese benefit and not Tibetan.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>90 Years worth of energy for the nation with the largest population in the world seems like sufficient cause for China to claim that Tibet is part of China and always has been etc , despite the fact that it has been independant for much of its history ( although its also been occupied by one power or another for much of the rest of that history of course ) .If Tibet had its independence this would be a terrific resource for the country to take advantage of in modernizing itself .
As it stands I am sure it will be used for Chinese benefit and not Tibetan .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>90 Years worth of energy for the nation with the largest population in the world seems like sufficient cause for China to claim that Tibet is part of China and always has been etc, despite the fact that it has been independant for much of its history (although its also been occupied by one power or another for much of the rest of that history of course).If Tibet had its independence this would be a terrific resource for the country to take advantage of in modernizing itself.
As it stands I am sure it will be used for Chinese benefit and not Tibetan.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31453446</id>
	<title>Safety tips while in Tibet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268418120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>1. Always turn off your vehicle engine while VISITING TIBET.<br>2. Stay near the vehicle while VISITING TIBET.<br>3. Never smoke, light matches, or use lighters while VISITING TIBET.<br>4. Cellular phones and other electronic devices may have the potential to emit electrical charges, and should therefore be left in the vehicle during YOUR VISIT TO TIBET. (There have been no reported fires due to cell phone use.)<br>5. Do not get back into your vehicle during YOUR VISIT TO TIBET. If you must re-enter your vehicle, discharge static electricity buildup when you get out by touching the outside metal portion of your vehicle.<br>6. When dispensing FROZEN METHANE into a portable FROZEN METHANE can, use only an approved container. Always place the container on the ground to avoid a static electricity ignition of FROZEN METHANE vapors. Containers should never be filled inside a vehicle, in the trunk, on the bed of a pickup or flatbed truck, or on the floor of a trailer. The bed of the truck and the bed liner act as insulators, as does the carpeting in a car or in its trunk, which may allow static electricity to build up in the can while it is being filled.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1 .
Always turn off your vehicle engine while VISITING TIBET.2 .
Stay near the vehicle while VISITING TIBET.3 .
Never smoke , light matches , or use lighters while VISITING TIBET.4 .
Cellular phones and other electronic devices may have the potential to emit electrical charges , and should therefore be left in the vehicle during YOUR VISIT TO TIBET .
( There have been no reported fires due to cell phone use. ) 5 .
Do not get back into your vehicle during YOUR VISIT TO TIBET .
If you must re-enter your vehicle , discharge static electricity buildup when you get out by touching the outside metal portion of your vehicle.6 .
When dispensing FROZEN METHANE into a portable FROZEN METHANE can , use only an approved container .
Always place the container on the ground to avoid a static electricity ignition of FROZEN METHANE vapors .
Containers should never be filled inside a vehicle , in the trunk , on the bed of a pickup or flatbed truck , or on the floor of a trailer .
The bed of the truck and the bed liner act as insulators , as does the carpeting in a car or in its trunk , which may allow static electricity to build up in the can while it is being filled .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1.
Always turn off your vehicle engine while VISITING TIBET.2.
Stay near the vehicle while VISITING TIBET.3.
Never smoke, light matches, or use lighters while VISITING TIBET.4.
Cellular phones and other electronic devices may have the potential to emit electrical charges, and should therefore be left in the vehicle during YOUR VISIT TO TIBET.
(There have been no reported fires due to cell phone use.)5.
Do not get back into your vehicle during YOUR VISIT TO TIBET.
If you must re-enter your vehicle, discharge static electricity buildup when you get out by touching the outside metal portion of your vehicle.6.
When dispensing FROZEN METHANE into a portable FROZEN METHANE can, use only an approved container.
Always place the container on the ground to avoid a static electricity ignition of FROZEN METHANE vapors.
Containers should never be filled inside a vehicle, in the trunk, on the bed of a pickup or flatbed truck, or on the floor of a trailer.
The bed of the truck and the bed liner act as insulators, as does the carpeting in a car or in its trunk, which may allow static electricity to build up in the can while it is being filled.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31451866</id>
	<title>Re:Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>wisebabo</author>
	<datestamp>1268410560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I didn't say I WANTED it to happen rather that it MIGHT/would.  I believe in the power of numbers and demographics (people turned into numbers) and I see these huge trends happening in the world and think wow, there's a lot of socio-economic pressure there that might "fester like a sore and then run" or "does it explode?".</p><p>On the other hand, making these kinds of predictions is fun, and might lead to some good investment choices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't say I WANTED it to happen rather that it MIGHT/would .
I believe in the power of numbers and demographics ( people turned into numbers ) and I see these huge trends happening in the world and think wow , there 's a lot of socio-economic pressure there that might " fester like a sore and then run " or " does it explode ?
" .On the other hand , making these kinds of predictions is fun , and might lead to some good investment choices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't say I WANTED it to happen rather that it MIGHT/would.
I believe in the power of numbers and demographics (people turned into numbers) and I see these huge trends happening in the world and think wow, there's a lot of socio-economic pressure there that might "fester like a sore and then run" or "does it explode?
".On the other hand, making these kinds of predictions is fun, and might lead to some good investment choices.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31451186</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31451942</id>
	<title>Re:What about liberation time?</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1268410920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That depends on whether or not CO2 recovery/sequestration technologies are used.  (This being China, I'm betting not.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That depends on whether or not CO2 recovery/sequestration technologies are used .
( This being China , I 'm betting not .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That depends on whether or not CO2 recovery/sequestration technologies are used.
(This being China, I'm betting not.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450312</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31449792</id>
	<title>Combustible Rice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268392380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For a while, I thought the headline read "China to Tap Combustible RICE as a new energy source". Considering how much rice there is in Asia, that would be amazing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For a while , I thought the headline read " China to Tap Combustible RICE as a new energy source " .
Considering how much rice there is in Asia , that would be amazing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For a while, I thought the headline read "China to Tap Combustible RICE as a new energy source".
Considering how much rice there is in Asia, that would be amazing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450910</id>
	<title>Re:Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>Apparition-X</author>
	<datestamp>1268405340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You said: "well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet, they might help save the environment. So let us acknowledge and shed a tear for Tibet's sacrifice for all mankind." Honestly, the first sentence should be in the past tense. Have you ever been there? Monasteries which held 10,000 monks reduced to 6. Yes, 6. Most other monasteries obliterated entirely. Massive Han Chinese "settlement" in the Tibetan capital of Lhasa means it is barely Tibetan anymore. Breaks on the limit on number of children for Han Chinese that relocate to Tibet. And that is just recently. Go back a decade or two and you will find overwhelming military force used to subjugate and kill Tibetans. Mass rapes of Tibetan nuns. Plundering of the treasures of the potala. (The only reason the big gold bhudda remains is that it was too big/heavy to carry away.) Lets not forget the brilliant idea of forcing Tibetans to grow wheat instead of barley and the ensuing famine. Anyways, having been both there and Bhutan, I can say that in my observation, the Tibetan culture is dying. Contrasting it with the Bhutan culture, there is no way you could say the Tibetans have survived the Chinese onslaught. Even 10 years ago when I was there it was unmistakably a dying culture. The ravagement was more or less complete at that time. Now it is just time for the vultures to pick over the corpse (yes, a deliberate reference to sky burials).</htmltext>
<tokenext>You said : " well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet , they might help save the environment .
So let us acknowledge and shed a tear for Tibet 's sacrifice for all mankind .
" Honestly , the first sentence should be in the past tense .
Have you ever been there ?
Monasteries which held 10,000 monks reduced to 6 .
Yes , 6 .
Most other monasteries obliterated entirely .
Massive Han Chinese " settlement " in the Tibetan capital of Lhasa means it is barely Tibetan anymore .
Breaks on the limit on number of children for Han Chinese that relocate to Tibet .
And that is just recently .
Go back a decade or two and you will find overwhelming military force used to subjugate and kill Tibetans .
Mass rapes of Tibetan nuns .
Plundering of the treasures of the potala .
( The only reason the big gold bhudda remains is that it was too big/heavy to carry away .
) Lets not forget the brilliant idea of forcing Tibetans to grow wheat instead of barley and the ensuing famine .
Anyways , having been both there and Bhutan , I can say that in my observation , the Tibetan culture is dying .
Contrasting it with the Bhutan culture , there is no way you could say the Tibetans have survived the Chinese onslaught .
Even 10 years ago when I was there it was unmistakably a dying culture .
The ravagement was more or less complete at that time .
Now it is just time for the vultures to pick over the corpse ( yes , a deliberate reference to sky burials ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You said: "well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet, they might help save the environment.
So let us acknowledge and shed a tear for Tibet's sacrifice for all mankind.
" Honestly, the first sentence should be in the past tense.
Have you ever been there?
Monasteries which held 10,000 monks reduced to 6.
Yes, 6.
Most other monasteries obliterated entirely.
Massive Han Chinese "settlement" in the Tibetan capital of Lhasa means it is barely Tibetan anymore.
Breaks on the limit on number of children for Han Chinese that relocate to Tibet.
And that is just recently.
Go back a decade or two and you will find overwhelming military force used to subjugate and kill Tibetans.
Mass rapes of Tibetan nuns.
Plundering of the treasures of the potala.
(The only reason the big gold bhudda remains is that it was too big/heavy to carry away.
) Lets not forget the brilliant idea of forcing Tibetans to grow wheat instead of barley and the ensuing famine.
Anyways, having been both there and Bhutan, I can say that in my observation, the Tibetan culture is dying.
Contrasting it with the Bhutan culture, there is no way you could say the Tibetans have survived the Chinese onslaught.
Even 10 years ago when I was there it was unmistakably a dying culture.
The ravagement was more or less complete at that time.
Now it is just time for the vultures to pick over the corpse (yes, a deliberate reference to sky burials).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450388</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31453498</id>
	<title>Re:So when was our environment methane?</title>
	<author>Locke2005</author>
	<datestamp>1268418300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It wasn't atmospheric methane that got sequestered this way, it was methane produced by decaying organic matter on the bottom of the ocean, then forced into a precipitate by low temperature and high pressure. Do you think oil deposits came from atmospheric hydrocarbons too?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It was n't atmospheric methane that got sequestered this way , it was methane produced by decaying organic matter on the bottom of the ocean , then forced into a precipitate by low temperature and high pressure .
Do you think oil deposits came from atmospheric hydrocarbons too ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wasn't atmospheric methane that got sequestered this way, it was methane produced by decaying organic matter on the bottom of the ocean, then forced into a precipitate by low temperature and high pressure.
Do you think oil deposits came from atmospheric hydrocarbons too?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450266</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31452174</id>
	<title>"combustible ice"</title>
	<author>plebeian</author>
	<datestamp>1268412060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently methane hydrate is not sexy enough.  Come on people!  next thing you know we will be surfing the intertubes and drinking brawndo.  I lurk on slashdot because it represents a fairly intelligent perspective.   Headlines such as this make me question the integrity of<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently methane hydrate is not sexy enough .
Come on people !
next thing you know we will be surfing the intertubes and drinking brawndo .
I lurk on slashdot because it represents a fairly intelligent perspective .
Headlines such as this make me question the integrity of / .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently methane hydrate is not sexy enough.
Come on people!
next thing you know we will be surfing the intertubes and drinking brawndo.
I lurk on slashdot because it represents a fairly intelligent perspective.
Headlines such as this make me question the integrity of /.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450522</id>
	<title>Tons of methane?</title>
	<author>Ihlosi</author>
	<datestamp>1268402460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there's enough of that stuff to power China for 90 years, I don't think tons of methane will do. Millions of even billions of tons of methane would be more like it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there 's enough of that stuff to power China for 90 years , I do n't think tons of methane will do .
Millions of even billions of tons of methane would be more like it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there's enough of that stuff to power China for 90 years, I don't think tons of methane will do.
Millions of even billions of tons of methane would be more like it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31452806</id>
	<title>Re:So Is This Why China Insists That Tibet is Thei</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268415060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the same reason why the USA is in the middle east.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the same reason why the USA is in the middle east .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the same reason why the USA is in the middle east.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450196</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450880</id>
	<title>Start the reactor....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Free Tibet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Free Tibet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Free Tibet!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450388</id>
	<title>Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>wisebabo</author>
	<datestamp>1268401440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People who follow my many rantings, I mean posts on Slashdot will not be surprised to know I am very happy that this seems to be a win-win scenario for reducing the amount of methane getting into the atmosphere, something I've been VERY concerned about (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1572576&amp;cid=31371302&amp;art\_pos=7).</p><p>Unfortunately I am afraid that this may be another excuse for China to subjugate the Tibetan people.  While Chinese apologists may claim they are lifting them out of feudal poverty, I would think that is a choice that the Tibetan people should make for themselves.  (Even though Americans and Europeans used "the White Man's burden" as an excuse for their colonial actions, that didn't make them right).  The Dalai Lama has claimed many times that he only wants CULTURAL autonomy for Tibet, unfortunately it appears as if this is one thing the Chinese don't want; they want to make it another "Han" province.  So they claim, the Dalai Lama really wants full independence despite the fact he has never advocated that and has, in fact, welcomed Chinese control over and development of Tibet.</p><p>Being from Korea, a country that narrowly escaped having it's own cultural identity from being stamped out by colonial Japan makes me sensitive to Tibet's plight.  My parent's were forced to learn Japanese, have Japanese names and were forbidden to learn Korean or Korean customs.  (This is in addition to many documented atrocities like "sex slaves".).  For almost fifty years the Japanese occupied Korea, only their defeat in WWII prevented them from succeeding in this cultural genocide.  (I'm sure the Japanese said they were "civilizing" Korea).  Unfortunately I doubt the U.S. or anyone else is going to come to Tibet's rescue; well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet, they might help save the environment.  So let us acknowledge and shed a tear for Tibet's sacrifice for all mankind.</p><p>While we're on the subject of China, here's an (outlandish) prediction.  In twenty years they will have become the most powerful country in the world; they should just be passing the GDP of the U.S. and will have a population of about 1.5 billion (India will be the same size but much poorer).  In the meantime, Russia's population should have FALLEN to less than a tenth of China's or about 125 million (or about the same number of excess males in China!).  So, what about the Chinese making Russia a "deal", we'll buy eastern Siberia from you or, if you refuse our entirely reasonable price we'll just take it with our vastly more powerful military.  Sure we might have a little nasty nuclear war but we'll survive (especially if we've developed effective missile defenses) and believe me you won't survive OUR attack.  Remember, we have lots of cannon fodder, I mean conscripts who we can make die, I mean are willing to die for our country!</p><p>Now eastern Siberia might not sound like much but, in twenty years with global warming, it could be a pretty "hot" property (sorry).  With it's vast land area right next door to China proper and huge amounts of untapped natural resources it'll be just the thing they want.  If they've figured out how to harvest methane from the thawing tundra for energy generation well, more "power" to them (sorry!).</p><p>[On the other hand, if China and Russia went to war, (or were "tricked" into it by some other meddling superpower) it would QUICKLY solve the population problem as well as probably rid the earth of some excess heat due to Nuclear Winter!]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People who follow my many rantings , I mean posts on Slashdot will not be surprised to know I am very happy that this seems to be a win-win scenario for reducing the amount of methane getting into the atmosphere , something I 've been VERY concerned about ( http : //slashdot.org/comments.pl ? sid = 1572576&amp;cid = 31371302&amp;art \ _pos = 7 ) .Unfortunately I am afraid that this may be another excuse for China to subjugate the Tibetan people .
While Chinese apologists may claim they are lifting them out of feudal poverty , I would think that is a choice that the Tibetan people should make for themselves .
( Even though Americans and Europeans used " the White Man 's burden " as an excuse for their colonial actions , that did n't make them right ) .
The Dalai Lama has claimed many times that he only wants CULTURAL autonomy for Tibet , unfortunately it appears as if this is one thing the Chinese do n't want ; they want to make it another " Han " province .
So they claim , the Dalai Lama really wants full independence despite the fact he has never advocated that and has , in fact , welcomed Chinese control over and development of Tibet.Being from Korea , a country that narrowly escaped having it 's own cultural identity from being stamped out by colonial Japan makes me sensitive to Tibet 's plight .
My parent 's were forced to learn Japanese , have Japanese names and were forbidden to learn Korean or Korean customs .
( This is in addition to many documented atrocities like " sex slaves " . ) .
For almost fifty years the Japanese occupied Korea , only their defeat in WWII prevented them from succeeding in this cultural genocide .
( I 'm sure the Japanese said they were " civilizing " Korea ) .
Unfortunately I doubt the U.S. or anyone else is going to come to Tibet 's rescue ; well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet , they might help save the environment .
So let us acknowledge and shed a tear for Tibet 's sacrifice for all mankind.While we 're on the subject of China , here 's an ( outlandish ) prediction .
In twenty years they will have become the most powerful country in the world ; they should just be passing the GDP of the U.S. and will have a population of about 1.5 billion ( India will be the same size but much poorer ) .
In the meantime , Russia 's population should have FALLEN to less than a tenth of China 's or about 125 million ( or about the same number of excess males in China ! ) .
So , what about the Chinese making Russia a " deal " , we 'll buy eastern Siberia from you or , if you refuse our entirely reasonable price we 'll just take it with our vastly more powerful military .
Sure we might have a little nasty nuclear war but we 'll survive ( especially if we 've developed effective missile defenses ) and believe me you wo n't survive OUR attack .
Remember , we have lots of cannon fodder , I mean conscripts who we can make die , I mean are willing to die for our country ! Now eastern Siberia might not sound like much but , in twenty years with global warming , it could be a pretty " hot " property ( sorry ) .
With it 's vast land area right next door to China proper and huge amounts of untapped natural resources it 'll be just the thing they want .
If they 've figured out how to harvest methane from the thawing tundra for energy generation well , more " power " to them ( sorry ! ) .
[ On the other hand , if China and Russia went to war , ( or were " tricked " into it by some other meddling superpower ) it would QUICKLY solve the population problem as well as probably rid the earth of some excess heat due to Nuclear Winter !
]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People who follow my many rantings, I mean posts on Slashdot will not be surprised to know I am very happy that this seems to be a win-win scenario for reducing the amount of methane getting into the atmosphere, something I've been VERY concerned about (http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1572576&amp;cid=31371302&amp;art\_pos=7).Unfortunately I am afraid that this may be another excuse for China to subjugate the Tibetan people.
While Chinese apologists may claim they are lifting them out of feudal poverty, I would think that is a choice that the Tibetan people should make for themselves.
(Even though Americans and Europeans used "the White Man's burden" as an excuse for their colonial actions, that didn't make them right).
The Dalai Lama has claimed many times that he only wants CULTURAL autonomy for Tibet, unfortunately it appears as if this is one thing the Chinese don't want; they want to make it another "Han" province.
So they claim, the Dalai Lama really wants full independence despite the fact he has never advocated that and has, in fact, welcomed Chinese control over and development of Tibet.Being from Korea, a country that narrowly escaped having it's own cultural identity from being stamped out by colonial Japan makes me sensitive to Tibet's plight.
My parent's were forced to learn Japanese, have Japanese names and were forbidden to learn Korean or Korean customs.
(This is in addition to many documented atrocities like "sex slaves".).
For almost fifty years the Japanese occupied Korea, only their defeat in WWII prevented them from succeeding in this cultural genocide.
(I'm sure the Japanese said they were "civilizing" Korea).
Unfortunately I doubt the U.S. or anyone else is going to come to Tibet's rescue; well at least if the Chinese are going to ravage Tibet, they might help save the environment.
So let us acknowledge and shed a tear for Tibet's sacrifice for all mankind.While we're on the subject of China, here's an (outlandish) prediction.
In twenty years they will have become the most powerful country in the world; they should just be passing the GDP of the U.S. and will have a population of about 1.5 billion (India will be the same size but much poorer).
In the meantime, Russia's population should have FALLEN to less than a tenth of China's or about 125 million (or about the same number of excess males in China!).
So, what about the Chinese making Russia a "deal", we'll buy eastern Siberia from you or, if you refuse our entirely reasonable price we'll just take it with our vastly more powerful military.
Sure we might have a little nasty nuclear war but we'll survive (especially if we've developed effective missile defenses) and believe me you won't survive OUR attack.
Remember, we have lots of cannon fodder, I mean conscripts who we can make die, I mean are willing to die for our country!Now eastern Siberia might not sound like much but, in twenty years with global warming, it could be a pretty "hot" property (sorry).
With it's vast land area right next door to China proper and huge amounts of untapped natural resources it'll be just the thing they want.
If they've figured out how to harvest methane from the thawing tundra for energy generation well, more "power" to them (sorry!).
[On the other hand, if China and Russia went to war, (or were "tricked" into it by some other meddling superpower) it would QUICKLY solve the population problem as well as probably rid the earth of some excess heat due to Nuclear Winter!
]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31454190</id>
	<title>Re:Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>kimb</author>
	<datestamp>1268421480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sure we might have a little nasty nuclear war but we'll survive (especially if we've developed effective missile defenses) and believe me you won't survive OUR attack. Remember, we have lots of cannon fodder, I mean conscripts who we can make die, I mean are willing to die for our country!</p></div><p>A <em>little, nasty nuclear war</em> and <em>if we've developed effective missile defenses</em>? Go easy on the fantasy, chief.</p><p>First of all, you're implying that Russia wouldn't have effective missile defense. Considering that current Chinese technology (especially military) is based on Russian design it's highly unlikely. Second, practical, meaningful anti-ballistic missile defense is most probably impossible.</p><p>But the most important thing, unless the Chinese people's bodies and their infrastructure are resistant to several thousand degrees of temperature, radiation and mechanical shock produced by thermonuclear weapons, they would NOT survive a nuclear attack Russia is capable of in any meaningful way. Amount of cannon fodder is irrelevant. If anything it would make China more vulnerable -- imagine 1 billion people in chaos after total nuclear devastation. Are you even aware what Russia (or the US) is able to unleash on a potential attacker if they see they have no other choice. Many countries are "nuclear forces" but Russia and US are in a completely different league. Sure, Russia would be in serious shit too, but in that situation they would be the ones that have nothing to lose.</p><p>And it's not like Russia isn't planning for such scenarios. Since the 50's or 60's they have a whole bunch of launchers dedicated just for China.</p><p>TL;DR: the Chinese government is not that stupid.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure we might have a little nasty nuclear war but we 'll survive ( especially if we 've developed effective missile defenses ) and believe me you wo n't survive OUR attack .
Remember , we have lots of cannon fodder , I mean conscripts who we can make die , I mean are willing to die for our country ! A little , nasty nuclear war and if we 've developed effective missile defenses ?
Go easy on the fantasy , chief.First of all , you 're implying that Russia would n't have effective missile defense .
Considering that current Chinese technology ( especially military ) is based on Russian design it 's highly unlikely .
Second , practical , meaningful anti-ballistic missile defense is most probably impossible.But the most important thing , unless the Chinese people 's bodies and their infrastructure are resistant to several thousand degrees of temperature , radiation and mechanical shock produced by thermonuclear weapons , they would NOT survive a nuclear attack Russia is capable of in any meaningful way .
Amount of cannon fodder is irrelevant .
If anything it would make China more vulnerable -- imagine 1 billion people in chaos after total nuclear devastation .
Are you even aware what Russia ( or the US ) is able to unleash on a potential attacker if they see they have no other choice .
Many countries are " nuclear forces " but Russia and US are in a completely different league .
Sure , Russia would be in serious shit too , but in that situation they would be the ones that have nothing to lose.And it 's not like Russia is n't planning for such scenarios .
Since the 50 's or 60 's they have a whole bunch of launchers dedicated just for China.TL ; DR : the Chinese government is not that stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure we might have a little nasty nuclear war but we'll survive (especially if we've developed effective missile defenses) and believe me you won't survive OUR attack.
Remember, we have lots of cannon fodder, I mean conscripts who we can make die, I mean are willing to die for our country!A little, nasty nuclear war and if we've developed effective missile defenses?
Go easy on the fantasy, chief.First of all, you're implying that Russia wouldn't have effective missile defense.
Considering that current Chinese technology (especially military) is based on Russian design it's highly unlikely.
Second, practical, meaningful anti-ballistic missile defense is most probably impossible.But the most important thing, unless the Chinese people's bodies and their infrastructure are resistant to several thousand degrees of temperature, radiation and mechanical shock produced by thermonuclear weapons, they would NOT survive a nuclear attack Russia is capable of in any meaningful way.
Amount of cannon fodder is irrelevant.
If anything it would make China more vulnerable -- imagine 1 billion people in chaos after total nuclear devastation.
Are you even aware what Russia (or the US) is able to unleash on a potential attacker if they see they have no other choice.
Many countries are "nuclear forces" but Russia and US are in a completely different league.
Sure, Russia would be in serious shit too, but in that situation they would be the ones that have nothing to lose.And it's not like Russia isn't planning for such scenarios.
Since the 50's or 60's they have a whole bunch of launchers dedicated just for China.TL;DR: the Chinese government is not that stupid.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31453618</id>
	<title>Re:So when was our environment methane?</title>
	<author>operagost</author>
	<datestamp>1268418960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>When Michael Moore went on a burrito binge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>When Michael Moore went on a burrito binge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When Michael Moore went on a burrito binge.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450326</id>
	<title>Another world</title>
	<author>michaelmalak</author>
	<datestamp>1268400900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibetan\_Plateau" title="wikipedia.org">Tibetan Plateau</a> [wikipedia.org]:<p> <i>It occupies an area of around 1,000 by 2,500 kilometers, and has an average elevation of over 4,500 meters.</i></p><p><i>The plateau is a high-altitude arid steppe interspersed with mountain ranges and large brackish lakes. Annual precipitation ranges from 100 mm to 300 mm and falls mainly as hailstorms. The southern and eastern edges of the steppe have grasslands which can sustainably support populations of nomadic herdsmen, although frost occurs for six months of the year. Permafrost occurs over extensive parts of the plateau. Proceeding to the north and northwest, the plateau becomes progressively higher, colder and drier, until reaching the remote Changthang region in the northwestern part of the plateau. Here the average altitude exceeds 5,000 meters (16,500 feet) and year-round temperatures average -4C, dipping to -40C in winter. As a result of this extremely inhospitable environment, the Changthang region (together with the adjoining Kekexili region) is the least populated region in Asia, and the third least populated area in the world after Antarctica and northern Greenland.</i> </p><p>Wow, a Class L planet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Tibetan Plateau [ wikipedia.org ] : It occupies an area of around 1,000 by 2,500 kilometers , and has an average elevation of over 4,500 meters.The plateau is a high-altitude arid steppe interspersed with mountain ranges and large brackish lakes .
Annual precipitation ranges from 100 mm to 300 mm and falls mainly as hailstorms .
The southern and eastern edges of the steppe have grasslands which can sustainably support populations of nomadic herdsmen , although frost occurs for six months of the year .
Permafrost occurs over extensive parts of the plateau .
Proceeding to the north and northwest , the plateau becomes progressively higher , colder and drier , until reaching the remote Changthang region in the northwestern part of the plateau .
Here the average altitude exceeds 5,000 meters ( 16,500 feet ) and year-round temperatures average -4C , dipping to -40C in winter .
As a result of this extremely inhospitable environment , the Changthang region ( together with the adjoining Kekexili region ) is the least populated region in Asia , and the third least populated area in the world after Antarctica and northern Greenland .
Wow , a Class L planet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Tibetan Plateau [wikipedia.org]: It occupies an area of around 1,000 by 2,500 kilometers, and has an average elevation of over 4,500 meters.The plateau is a high-altitude arid steppe interspersed with mountain ranges and large brackish lakes.
Annual precipitation ranges from 100 mm to 300 mm and falls mainly as hailstorms.
The southern and eastern edges of the steppe have grasslands which can sustainably support populations of nomadic herdsmen, although frost occurs for six months of the year.
Permafrost occurs over extensive parts of the plateau.
Proceeding to the north and northwest, the plateau becomes progressively higher, colder and drier, until reaching the remote Changthang region in the northwestern part of the plateau.
Here the average altitude exceeds 5,000 meters (16,500 feet) and year-round temperatures average -4C, dipping to -40C in winter.
As a result of this extremely inhospitable environment, the Changthang region (together with the adjoining Kekexili region) is the least populated region in Asia, and the third least populated area in the world after Antarctica and northern Greenland.
Wow, a Class L planet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450876</id>
	<title>I thought China's population is to decline?</title>
	<author>JSBiff</author>
	<datestamp>1268405100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"and will have a population of about 1.5 billion"</p><p>I thought I remember reading projections somewhere, which indicate that China's population is soon supposed to begin a pretty rapid decline, due to several decades of 'birth control' measures imposed by the government? Contributing even further to that, I had heard that there is a large imbalance in the population ratio between males and females, because, since parents were limited to one child, many of them chose to abort girls and 'try again' until they had a boy? Because of the predominance of males, there are fewer females to become pregnant and birth the next generation, further contributing to long-term population decline?</p><p>Shouldn't those things be starting to have an effect 20 years from now?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" and will have a population of about 1.5 billion " I thought I remember reading projections somewhere , which indicate that China 's population is soon supposed to begin a pretty rapid decline , due to several decades of 'birth control ' measures imposed by the government ?
Contributing even further to that , I had heard that there is a large imbalance in the population ratio between males and females , because , since parents were limited to one child , many of them chose to abort girls and 'try again ' until they had a boy ?
Because of the predominance of males , there are fewer females to become pregnant and birth the next generation , further contributing to long-term population decline ? Should n't those things be starting to have an effect 20 years from now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"and will have a population of about 1.5 billion"I thought I remember reading projections somewhere, which indicate that China's population is soon supposed to begin a pretty rapid decline, due to several decades of 'birth control' measures imposed by the government?
Contributing even further to that, I had heard that there is a large imbalance in the population ratio between males and females, because, since parents were limited to one child, many of them chose to abort girls and 'try again' until they had a boy?
Because of the predominance of males, there are fewer females to become pregnant and birth the next generation, further contributing to long-term population decline?Shouldn't those things be starting to have an effect 20 years from now?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31449898</id>
	<title>Infinite energy!</title>
	<author>jplopez</author>
	<datestamp>1268394660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We use this frozen combustible to freeze more combustible, which in turn will freeze even more combustible, which... no, errr, wait!</htmltext>
<tokenext>We use this frozen combustible to freeze more combustible , which in turn will freeze even more combustible , which... no , errr , wait !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We use this frozen combustible to freeze more combustible, which in turn will freeze even more combustible, which... no, errr, wait!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31463122</id>
	<title>To Good To Be True</title>
	<author>NARbrat</author>
	<datestamp>1268484960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This strikes me as being your classic To Good To Be True story.  It has long been known that there was ice made of Methane and Water - frozen together.  But since when did it exist at the surface?  This ice normally requires the pressure of the deep seas to keep it from reverting to it's gaseous form.  How is it that they found this where it could be used on the surface?

From: U.S. Geological Survey
Marine and Coastal Geology Program
&gt;Methane hydrate is stable in ocean floor sediments at water depths greater than 300 meters, and where it occurs, it is known to cement loose sediments in a surface layer several hundred meters thick.&gt;<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....
Me thinks this story has some credibility problems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This strikes me as being your classic To Good To Be True story .
It has long been known that there was ice made of Methane and Water - frozen together .
But since when did it exist at the surface ?
This ice normally requires the pressure of the deep seas to keep it from reverting to it 's gaseous form .
How is it that they found this where it could be used on the surface ?
From : U.S. Geological Survey Marine and Coastal Geology Program &gt; Methane hydrate is stable in ocean floor sediments at water depths greater than 300 meters , and where it occurs , it is known to cement loose sediments in a surface layer several hundred meters thick. &gt; ... . Me thinks this story has some credibility problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This strikes me as being your classic To Good To Be True story.
It has long been known that there was ice made of Methane and Water - frozen together.
But since when did it exist at the surface?
This ice normally requires the pressure of the deep seas to keep it from reverting to it's gaseous form.
How is it that they found this where it could be used on the surface?
From: U.S. Geological Survey
Marine and Coastal Geology Program
&gt;Methane hydrate is stable in ocean floor sediments at water depths greater than 300 meters, and where it occurs, it is known to cement loose sediments in a surface layer several hundred meters thick.&gt; ....
Me thinks this story has some credibility problems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450852</id>
	<title>China's exploitation of colonized lands</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268404920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am sure that China's formerly communist (now nationalist/Han chauvinist) dictatorship won't be reminding anyone or allowing any debate inside the "People's Empire of China" that <b>invading a peaceful and totally non-Chinese neighbouring nation of Tibet</b> in 1950, resulting in over a million Tibetan deaths; brutally repressing the Tibetan people, their unique language (with Sanskrit-based script), their history, their Buddhist religion and their national identity while brainwashing Tibetans to believe that their pacifistic culture is inferior; wiping out practically all of the 6000 monasteries that served as Tibet religious and administrative centres and housed invaluable written records (burned) and precious ancient artifacts (melted for Mao's foreign reserves); exploiting Tibet's extensive and varied natural resources (precious minerals, metals, timber, various sources of energy) without native Tibetans having any say; keeping the Tibetans under constant surveillance and imposing upon them China's alien imperial language etc. <b>amounts to genocidal colonialism</b>.</p><p>But no, the current ultra-nationalist successor regimes of the world's most murderous dictator, the marxist Mao Zedong, have made the Final Solution in China's western neighbours (Tibet, East Turkestan aka Xinjiang and Southern Mongolia) a propaganda imperative in the name of expansionist "Han China's" unity and for them colonialism is merely the often-evoked accusation against the evil <i>foreign</i> powers.</p><p>So now Tibet, called the "Western Treasure house" in modern Chinese, is really facing an extensive surface stripping so that the colonizing Chinese (lead by Communist Party "princelings" and their cronies) can extract the mind-boggling amount of energy stored across the Tibetan Plateau?</p><p>If that wasn't enough, just recently a professor and member of Chinese Academy of Engineering (a Chinese Communist Party thinktank) revealed that <a href="http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/news/articles/030410.shtml" title="eurasianet.org" rel="nofollow">"we foresee that in the coming decades, hundreds of millions of people will migrate to the western regions, where land is empty and resources are untapped"</a> [eurasianet.org]!</p><p>One must suppose that if Hitler had provided the West cheap capitalist services under his nazional-socialist policies, he too would've gained quiet acceptance for Nazi-Germany's Lebensraum expansion and resource grab, like China does today...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am sure that China 's formerly communist ( now nationalist/Han chauvinist ) dictatorship wo n't be reminding anyone or allowing any debate inside the " People 's Empire of China " that invading a peaceful and totally non-Chinese neighbouring nation of Tibet in 1950 , resulting in over a million Tibetan deaths ; brutally repressing the Tibetan people , their unique language ( with Sanskrit-based script ) , their history , their Buddhist religion and their national identity while brainwashing Tibetans to believe that their pacifistic culture is inferior ; wiping out practically all of the 6000 monasteries that served as Tibet religious and administrative centres and housed invaluable written records ( burned ) and precious ancient artifacts ( melted for Mao 's foreign reserves ) ; exploiting Tibet 's extensive and varied natural resources ( precious minerals , metals , timber , various sources of energy ) without native Tibetans having any say ; keeping the Tibetans under constant surveillance and imposing upon them China 's alien imperial language etc .
amounts to genocidal colonialism.But no , the current ultra-nationalist successor regimes of the world 's most murderous dictator , the marxist Mao Zedong , have made the Final Solution in China 's western neighbours ( Tibet , East Turkestan aka Xinjiang and Southern Mongolia ) a propaganda imperative in the name of expansionist " Han China 's " unity and for them colonialism is merely the often-evoked accusation against the evil foreign powers.So now Tibet , called the " Western Treasure house " in modern Chinese , is really facing an extensive surface stripping so that the colonizing Chinese ( lead by Communist Party " princelings " and their cronies ) can extract the mind-boggling amount of energy stored across the Tibetan Plateau ? If that was n't enough , just recently a professor and member of Chinese Academy of Engineering ( a Chinese Communist Party thinktank ) revealed that " we foresee that in the coming decades , hundreds of millions of people will migrate to the western regions , where land is empty and resources are untapped " [ eurasianet.org ] ! One must suppose that if Hitler had provided the West cheap capitalist services under his nazional-socialist policies , he too would 've gained quiet acceptance for Nazi-Germany 's Lebensraum expansion and resource grab , like China does today.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am sure that China's formerly communist (now nationalist/Han chauvinist) dictatorship won't be reminding anyone or allowing any debate inside the "People's Empire of China" that invading a peaceful and totally non-Chinese neighbouring nation of Tibet in 1950, resulting in over a million Tibetan deaths; brutally repressing the Tibetan people, their unique language (with Sanskrit-based script), their history, their Buddhist religion and their national identity while brainwashing Tibetans to believe that their pacifistic culture is inferior; wiping out practically all of the 6000 monasteries that served as Tibet religious and administrative centres and housed invaluable written records (burned) and precious ancient artifacts (melted for Mao's foreign reserves); exploiting Tibet's extensive and varied natural resources (precious minerals, metals, timber, various sources of energy) without native Tibetans having any say; keeping the Tibetans under constant surveillance and imposing upon them China's alien imperial language etc.
amounts to genocidal colonialism.But no, the current ultra-nationalist successor regimes of the world's most murderous dictator, the marxist Mao Zedong, have made the Final Solution in China's western neighbours (Tibet, East Turkestan aka Xinjiang and Southern Mongolia) a propaganda imperative in the name of expansionist "Han China's" unity and for them colonialism is merely the often-evoked accusation against the evil foreign powers.So now Tibet, called the "Western Treasure house" in modern Chinese, is really facing an extensive surface stripping so that the colonizing Chinese (lead by Communist Party "princelings" and their cronies) can extract the mind-boggling amount of energy stored across the Tibetan Plateau?If that wasn't enough, just recently a professor and member of Chinese Academy of Engineering (a Chinese Communist Party thinktank) revealed that "we foresee that in the coming decades, hundreds of millions of people will migrate to the western regions, where land is empty and resources are untapped" [eurasianet.org]!One must suppose that if Hitler had provided the West cheap capitalist services under his nazional-socialist policies, he too would've gained quiet acceptance for Nazi-Germany's Lebensraum expansion and resource grab, like China does today...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31458762</id>
	<title>Re:Energy: Good - Mining: Problematic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268397900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Google China desertification.</p><p>Practically speaking, it's too late.  The Chinese bureaucrats won't act for environmental protection until Beijing is blanketed with the failed soil of its fertile midland.  The United States failed to act to stop its Dust Bowl in the early 20th century until windows in Washington D.C. were literally blacked out by blowing dust.  The American Midwest was very nearly lost to sands before agricultural reform was mandated.</p><p>China isn't going to stop a little bit of tundra-mining; they're already beyond caring about what's happening to their peasants living on previously-arable ground.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google China desertification.Practically speaking , it 's too late .
The Chinese bureaucrats wo n't act for environmental protection until Beijing is blanketed with the failed soil of its fertile midland .
The United States failed to act to stop its Dust Bowl in the early 20th century until windows in Washington D.C. were literally blacked out by blowing dust .
The American Midwest was very nearly lost to sands before agricultural reform was mandated.China is n't going to stop a little bit of tundra-mining ; they 're already beyond caring about what 's happening to their peasants living on previously-arable ground .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google China desertification.Practically speaking, it's too late.
The Chinese bureaucrats won't act for environmental protection until Beijing is blanketed with the failed soil of its fertile midland.
The United States failed to act to stop its Dust Bowl in the early 20th century until windows in Washington D.C. were literally blacked out by blowing dust.
The American Midwest was very nearly lost to sands before agricultural reform was mandated.China isn't going to stop a little bit of tundra-mining; they're already beyond caring about what's happening to their peasants living on previously-arable ground.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31451186</id>
	<title>Re:Say goodbye to Tibetan autonomy</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You start off with a rant about how China shouldn't subjugate Tibet and how cultural imperialism is bad, and then you propose a Chinese invasion of Siberia?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You start off with a rant about how China should n't subjugate Tibet and how cultural imperialism is bad , and then you propose a Chinese invasion of Siberia ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You start off with a rant about how China shouldn't subjugate Tibet and how cultural imperialism is bad, and then you propose a Chinese invasion of Siberia?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31454388</id>
	<title>lighter then air</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268422560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>burn it? BURN it?<br>crazy. everybody knows that the most valuable<br>resource on THIS planet is helium. it is a noble<br>gas so you cannot "burn/react" with some other<br>element and store it, say like you can store hydrogen<br>with oxygen.<br>once released, it disappears into outer space, bye-bye.<br>100\% of all helium deposits in earths crust is a by-product<br>from uranium decay (alpha-radiation).<br>SO<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... what are we going to fill our air-ships with? lead?<br>NOPE, methane. methane is lighter then air, and if heated up (not burn)<br>gets even lighter.  &gt;: P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>burn it ?
BURN it ? crazy .
everybody knows that the most valuableresource on THIS planet is helium .
it is a noblegas so you can not " burn/react " with some otherelement and store it , say like you can store hydrogenwith oxygen.once released , it disappears into outer space , bye-bye.100 \ % of all helium deposits in earths crust is a by-productfrom uranium decay ( alpha-radiation ) .SO ... what are we going to fill our air-ships with ?
lead ? NOPE , methane .
methane is lighter then air , and if heated up ( not burn ) gets even lighter .
&gt; : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>burn it?
BURN it?crazy.
everybody knows that the most valuableresource on THIS planet is helium.
it is a noblegas so you cannot "burn/react" with some otherelement and store it, say like you can store hydrogenwith oxygen.once released, it disappears into outer space, bye-bye.100\% of all helium deposits in earths crust is a by-productfrom uranium decay (alpha-radiation).SO ... what are we going to fill our air-ships with?
lead?NOPE, methane.
methane is lighter then air, and if heated up (not burn)gets even lighter.
&gt;: P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31455204</id>
	<title>Re:Weapons of Mass Destruction</title>
	<author>ChrisMaple</author>
	<datestamp>1268426040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The essence of the word reform is "to make better". The current legislation demonstrably makes thing much, much worse. Hence the current legislation is not reform.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The essence of the word reform is " to make better " .
The current legislation demonstrably makes thing much , much worse .
Hence the current legislation is not reform .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The essence of the word reform is "to make better".
The current legislation demonstrably makes thing much, much worse.
Hence the current legislation is not reform.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31455146</id>
	<title>China population</title>
	<author>ChrisMaple</author>
	<datestamp>1268425740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Current best estimate is that China's population will <i>never</i> exceed 10\% more than what it is today.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Current best estimate is that China 's population will never exceed 10 \ % more than what it is today .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Current best estimate is that China's population will never exceed 10\% more than what it is today.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31449798</id>
	<title>Further proof</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268392440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>That my overt gassiness is in the best interests of future generations. That'll teach my girlfriend to complain about it!</htmltext>
<tokenext>That my overt gassiness is in the best interests of future generations .
That 'll teach my girlfriend to complain about it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That my overt gassiness is in the best interests of future generations.
That'll teach my girlfriend to complain about it!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450752</id>
	<title>Re:So when was our environment methane?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268404260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>&gt; So when was the concentration of methane in the atmosphere so high it caused this?<br><br>There may be other ways it could have happened.<br><br>Just for example, if an insulative ice cap formed overtop a mass of biomatter (say, a bog) that was otherwise still warm enough to decompose, possibly with some water in between, you could end up with a mixture of methane and water ice forming below the ice cap as the whole thing cooled.  A few thousand years later, melt off the top layer of ice, and you've got combustible ice exposed to the surface.<br><br>There may be other possible formation scenarios as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; So when was the concentration of methane in the atmosphere so high it caused this ? There may be other ways it could have happened.Just for example , if an insulative ice cap formed overtop a mass of biomatter ( say , a bog ) that was otherwise still warm enough to decompose , possibly with some water in between , you could end up with a mixture of methane and water ice forming below the ice cap as the whole thing cooled .
A few thousand years later , melt off the top layer of ice , and you 've got combustible ice exposed to the surface.There may be other possible formation scenarios as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; So when was the concentration of methane in the atmosphere so high it caused this?There may be other ways it could have happened.Just for example, if an insulative ice cap formed overtop a mass of biomatter (say, a bog) that was otherwise still warm enough to decompose, possibly with some water in between, you could end up with a mixture of methane and water ice forming below the ice cap as the whole thing cooled.
A few thousand years later, melt off the top layer of ice, and you've got combustible ice exposed to the surface.There may be other possible formation scenarios as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450888</id>
	<title>Re:Tons of methane?</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1268405100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In English, the word "tons", without a numeric qualifier, does not refer to a specific amount.  It just means "lots and lots".  See also "trainloads", "a bargeload", "a buttload", "a metric ton", "a metric buttload", "a passel", "a whole passel", etc.  These aren't specific literal amounts.  They're just emphatic ways to say "a lot".<br><br>Now, if we say "thirty tons", then that is a specific amount (thirty times two thousand pounds).  Similarly, "three metric tons" is a specific amount.  The number makes it literal (assuming it's a literal number; "sixty gajillion tons", on the other hand, is back in the realm of absctraction, because a gajillion is not a specific number).</htmltext>
<tokenext>In English , the word " tons " , without a numeric qualifier , does not refer to a specific amount .
It just means " lots and lots " .
See also " trainloads " , " a bargeload " , " a buttload " , " a metric ton " , " a metric buttload " , " a passel " , " a whole passel " , etc .
These are n't specific literal amounts .
They 're just emphatic ways to say " a lot " .Now , if we say " thirty tons " , then that is a specific amount ( thirty times two thousand pounds ) .
Similarly , " three metric tons " is a specific amount .
The number makes it literal ( assuming it 's a literal number ; " sixty gajillion tons " , on the other hand , is back in the realm of absctraction , because a gajillion is not a specific number ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In English, the word "tons", without a numeric qualifier, does not refer to a specific amount.
It just means "lots and lots".
See also "trainloads", "a bargeload", "a buttload", "a metric ton", "a metric buttload", "a passel", "a whole passel", etc.
These aren't specific literal amounts.
They're just emphatic ways to say "a lot".Now, if we say "thirty tons", then that is a specific amount (thirty times two thousand pounds).
Similarly, "three metric tons" is a specific amount.
The number makes it literal (assuming it's a literal number; "sixty gajillion tons", on the other hand, is back in the realm of absctraction, because a gajillion is not a specific number).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450066</id>
	<title>Solving the wrong prbolem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268398200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It may last 90 years but on the assumption of current polulation level!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It may last 90 years but on the assumption of current polulation level ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It may last 90 years but on the assumption of current polulation level!!
!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31451604</id>
	<title>Re:What about liberation time?</title>
	<author>jbeaupre</author>
	<datestamp>1268409300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Methane traps 20 times as much heat as CO2, so it's the same effect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Methane traps 20 times as much heat as CO2 , so it 's the same effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Methane traps 20 times as much heat as CO2, so it's the same effect.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0756237.31450270</id>
	<title>Energy: Good - Mining: Problematic</title>
	<author>deboli</author>
	<datestamp>1268400240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>While there are mostly advantages in using this as a fuel, it might be an ecologic disaster to strip-mine the tundra. The Tibet - Qinghai Plateau is between 3 and 4,000 m above sea level and the climate is harsh. Areas that have been strip mined will recover slowly and the little soil that was there and allowed the tundra to grow will be removed, leaving only rocks and sands behind. It might take centuries to recover and will make life for the nomadic herders and the indigenous animals (many of them endangered) difficult if not impossible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While there are mostly advantages in using this as a fuel , it might be an ecologic disaster to strip-mine the tundra .
The Tibet - Qinghai Plateau is between 3 and 4,000 m above sea level and the climate is harsh .
Areas that have been strip mined will recover slowly and the little soil that was there and allowed the tundra to grow will be removed , leaving only rocks and sands behind .
It might take centuries to recover and will make life for the nomadic herders and the indigenous animals ( many of them endangered ) difficult if not impossible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While there are mostly advantages in using this as a fuel, it might be an ecologic disaster to strip-mine the tundra.
The Tibet - Qinghai Plateau is between 3 and 4,000 m above sea level and the climate is harsh.
Areas that have been strip mined will recover slowly and the little soil that was there and allowed the tundra to grow will be removed, leaving only rocks and sands behind.
It might take centuries to recover and will make life for the nomadic herders and the indigenous animals (many of them endangered) difficult if not impossible.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Cool</title>
	<author>pax humana</author>
	<datestamp>1268825400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's cool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's cool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's cool.</sentencetext>
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