<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_12_0256211</id>
	<title>Best Pre-Paid Data Plan For a Visit To Germany?</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1268420460000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>code prole writes <i>"With two upcoming trips to Germany, and no readily available Internet (Wi-Fi or otherwise) in the location where we'll be staying, I'm looking for a no-contract USB stick and pre-paid data plan. Vodafone has a huge selection of USB sticks but has proven to be unresponsive to questions about data plans. And the US-based T-Mobile Help Center was clueless about getting the device in Europe and using it there. Hopefully the Slashdot community has some suggestions. Any duds to avoid?"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>code prole writes " With two upcoming trips to Germany , and no readily available Internet ( Wi-Fi or otherwise ) in the location where we 'll be staying , I 'm looking for a no-contract USB stick and pre-paid data plan .
Vodafone has a huge selection of USB sticks but has proven to be unresponsive to questions about data plans .
And the US-based T-Mobile Help Center was clueless about getting the device in Europe and using it there .
Hopefully the Slashdot community has some suggestions .
Any duds to avoid ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>code prole writes "With two upcoming trips to Germany, and no readily available Internet (Wi-Fi or otherwise) in the location where we'll be staying, I'm looking for a no-contract USB stick and pre-paid data plan.
Vodafone has a huge selection of USB sticks but has proven to be unresponsive to questions about data plans.
And the US-based T-Mobile Help Center was clueless about getting the device in Europe and using it there.
Hopefully the Slashdot community has some suggestions.
Any duds to avoid?
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449126</id>
	<title>Blau</title>
	<author>uigin</author>
	<datestamp>1268424480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I find <a href="http://www.blau.de/" title="www.blau.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.blau.de/</a> [www.blau.de] quite good. Aldi (http://www.aldi-nord.de/aldi\_aldi\_talk\_95.html) are also good.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I find http : //www.blau.de/ [ www.blau.de ] quite good .
Aldi ( http : //www.aldi-nord.de/aldi \ _aldi \ _talk \ _95.html ) are also good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find http://www.blau.de/ [www.blau.de] quite good.
Aldi (http://www.aldi-nord.de/aldi\_aldi\_talk\_95.html) are also good.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449934</id>
	<title>alditalk</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268395260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i have had good results with alditalk which operates as an MVNO on the eplus network. you need to buy a starter kit at an Aldi store, and buy some top up cards at the same time. i skip the stick and just tether to a phone, that way it serves 2 purposes.</p><p>one thing to be aware of, some of these plans may require residency, with various means of enforcement</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i have had good results with alditalk which operates as an MVNO on the eplus network .
you need to buy a starter kit at an Aldi store , and buy some top up cards at the same time .
i skip the stick and just tether to a phone , that way it serves 2 purposes.one thing to be aware of , some of these plans may require residency , with various means of enforcement</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i have had good results with alditalk which operates as an MVNO on the eplus network.
you need to buy a starter kit at an Aldi store, and buy some top up cards at the same time.
i skip the stick and just tether to a phone, that way it serves 2 purposes.one thing to be aware of, some of these plans may require residency, with various means of enforcement</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449314</id>
	<title>Vodafone Websessions or T-mobile web'n'walk  (Data</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268384700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.vodafone.de/privat/tarife/datentarife-websessions.html" title="vodafone.de" rel="nofollow">Vodafone Websessions:</a> [vodafone.de] Walk into the Vodafone store at the airport &euro;30 for the UMTS (3G) usb stick, &euro;5/day (capped at 1GB transfer volume) or 10&euro;/week (similarly capped at 1GB). The only problem might be that they don't have the package and will have to send it to your hotel/address. It's pay as you go, after login you have to enter your credit card info.Similar offers are available from T-Online (web'n'walk  &euro;50 with a usb stick including &euro;10 on the pre paid account.). O2 and Eplus are generally cheaper but their 3G coverage is often not as good as Telekom or Vodafone.</p><p>Of course there are tons of other options available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Vodafone Websessions : [ vodafone.de ] Walk into the Vodafone store at the airport    30 for the UMTS ( 3G ) usb stick ,    5/day ( capped at 1GB transfer volume ) or 10    /week ( similarly capped at 1GB ) .
The only problem might be that they do n't have the package and will have to send it to your hotel/address .
It 's pay as you go , after login you have to enter your credit card info.Similar offers are available from T-Online ( web'n'walk    50 with a usb stick including    10 on the pre paid account. ) .
O2 and Eplus are generally cheaper but their 3G coverage is often not as good as Telekom or Vodafone.Of course there are tons of other options available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Vodafone Websessions: [vodafone.de] Walk into the Vodafone store at the airport €30 for the UMTS (3G) usb stick, €5/day (capped at 1GB transfer volume) or 10€/week (similarly capped at 1GB).
The only problem might be that they don't have the package and will have to send it to your hotel/address.
It's pay as you go, after login you have to enter your credit card info.Similar offers are available from T-Online (web'n'walk  €50 with a usb stick including €10 on the pre paid account.).
O2 and Eplus are generally cheaper but their 3G coverage is often not as good as Telekom or Vodafone.Of course there are tons of other options available.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449664</id>
	<title>Join Fon or buy your connectivity here in Germany</title>
	<author>Qbertino</author>
	<datestamp>1268390340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Join <a href="http://www.fon.com/en/" title="fon.com">Fon</a> [fon.com] if you can determine that there's a Fonspot near where you're staying or get your connectivity here in Germany. There are multiple Phoneshops in every street of every city and town here, the hassle will be much less than if you try to get german connectivity in the US. Most people speak usable english here, so you'll have no trouble negotiating in a Phoneshop.</p><p>If Fon isn't an option I'd try and find out if there is a T-Mobile WiFi Hotspot near where you're staying (probably is) and get a Flatrate code for a month or so. T-M. Hotspot had that sort of thing a few years ago - you'd buy a card with a code which, once activated, you could use for a month. They probably still have simular offers - iirc you can purchase them directly at the T-Mobile webshop.</p><p>Bottom line: If Fon isn't an option, don't worry and just come over here, you'll get your daily internet fix one way or the other.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Join Fon [ fon.com ] if you can determine that there 's a Fonspot near where you 're staying or get your connectivity here in Germany .
There are multiple Phoneshops in every street of every city and town here , the hassle will be much less than if you try to get german connectivity in the US .
Most people speak usable english here , so you 'll have no trouble negotiating in a Phoneshop.If Fon is n't an option I 'd try and find out if there is a T-Mobile WiFi Hotspot near where you 're staying ( probably is ) and get a Flatrate code for a month or so .
T-M. Hotspot had that sort of thing a few years ago - you 'd buy a card with a code which , once activated , you could use for a month .
They probably still have simular offers - iirc you can purchase them directly at the T-Mobile webshop.Bottom line : If Fon is n't an option , do n't worry and just come over here , you 'll get your daily internet fix one way or the other .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Join Fon [fon.com] if you can determine that there's a Fonspot near where you're staying or get your connectivity here in Germany.
There are multiple Phoneshops in every street of every city and town here, the hassle will be much less than if you try to get german connectivity in the US.
Most people speak usable english here, so you'll have no trouble negotiating in a Phoneshop.If Fon isn't an option I'd try and find out if there is a T-Mobile WiFi Hotspot near where you're staying (probably is) and get a Flatrate code for a month or so.
T-M. Hotspot had that sort of thing a few years ago - you'd buy a card with a code which, once activated, you could use for a month.
They probably still have simular offers - iirc you can purchase them directly at the T-Mobile webshop.Bottom line: If Fon isn't an option, don't worry and just come over here, you'll get your daily internet fix one way or the other.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449742</id>
	<title>Don't know where you're going</title>
	<author>gmthor</author>
	<datestamp>1268391600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As I guess that you prefer getting UMTS, I would advise you to check which provider has got a good signal at the place where you're going. My experience is that if you are not in a city, the provider can make a big difference. There are even many areas where you have no umts signal at all. In general you can get unlimited data plans for all networks for about 20&euro; per month on a prepaid basis by on of the many resellers (as already mentioned blau.de , my favorite kabeldeutschland.de or all the others).<br>
Here are some maps:<br>
<a href="http://t-map.t-mobile.de/tmap/jsp/T-Map.jsp?usergroup=end\_user&amp;functionalArea=umts\_coverage" title="t-mobile.de" rel="nofollow">http://t-map.t-mobile.de/tmap/jsp/T-Map.jsp?usergroup=end\_user&amp;functionalArea=umts\_coverage</a> [t-mobile.de] <br>
<a href="http://netmap.vodafone.de/cover4internet/initParams.do;jsessionid=3CF18E6EC4F00AD06FAED35715244F7C.umtsmapi1?windowsSystem=false&amp;nav=true&amp;nav4=false&amp;nav5up=true&amp;IE=false&amp;IE4=false&amp;IE5up=false&amp;initialized=true&amp;appprofile=UMTS-Maps" title="vodafone.de" rel="nofollow">http://netmap.vodafone.de/cover4internet/initParams.do;jsessionid=3CF18E6EC4F00AD06FAED35715244F7C.umtsmapi1?windowsSystem=false&amp;nav=true&amp;nav4=false&amp;nav5up=true&amp;IE=false&amp;IE4=false&amp;IE5up=false&amp;initialized=true&amp;appprofile=UMTS-Maps</a> [vodafone.de] <br>
<a href="http://eis03sn1.eplus-online.de/geo/portal/umts" title="eplus-online.de" rel="nofollow">http://eis03sn1.eplus-online.de/geo/portal/umts</a> [eplus-online.de]</htmltext>
<tokenext>As I guess that you prefer getting UMTS , I would advise you to check which provider has got a good signal at the place where you 're going .
My experience is that if you are not in a city , the provider can make a big difference .
There are even many areas where you have no umts signal at all .
In general you can get unlimited data plans for all networks for about 20    per month on a prepaid basis by on of the many resellers ( as already mentioned blau.de , my favorite kabeldeutschland.de or all the others ) .
Here are some maps : http : //t-map.t-mobile.de/tmap/jsp/T-Map.jsp ? usergroup = end \ _user&amp;functionalArea = umts \ _coverage [ t-mobile.de ] http : //netmap.vodafone.de/cover4internet/initParams.do ; jsessionid = 3CF18E6EC4F00AD06FAED35715244F7C.umtsmapi1 ? windowsSystem = false&amp;nav = true&amp;nav4 = false&amp;nav5up = true&amp;IE = false&amp;IE4 = false&amp;IE5up = false&amp;initialized = true&amp;appprofile = UMTS-Maps [ vodafone.de ] http : //eis03sn1.eplus-online.de/geo/portal/umts [ eplus-online.de ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I guess that you prefer getting UMTS, I would advise you to check which provider has got a good signal at the place where you're going.
My experience is that if you are not in a city, the provider can make a big difference.
There are even many areas where you have no umts signal at all.
In general you can get unlimited data plans for all networks for about 20€ per month on a prepaid basis by on of the many resellers (as already mentioned blau.de , my favorite kabeldeutschland.de or all the others).
Here are some maps:
http://t-map.t-mobile.de/tmap/jsp/T-Map.jsp?usergroup=end\_user&amp;functionalArea=umts\_coverage [t-mobile.de] 
http://netmap.vodafone.de/cover4internet/initParams.do;jsessionid=3CF18E6EC4F00AD06FAED35715244F7C.umtsmapi1?windowsSystem=false&amp;nav=true&amp;nav4=false&amp;nav5up=true&amp;IE=false&amp;IE4=false&amp;IE5up=false&amp;initialized=true&amp;appprofile=UMTS-Maps [vodafone.de] 
http://eis03sn1.eplus-online.de/geo/portal/umts [eplus-online.de]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450782</id>
	<title>Learn to relax</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268404440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Learn to relax. You don't need internet when you travel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Learn to relax .
You do n't need internet when you travel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Learn to relax.
You don't need internet when you travel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449154</id>
	<title>Dude, you're in central Europe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268424900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just find a open WLAN and use that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p><a href="http://start.freifunk.net/" title="freifunk.net">http://start.freifunk.net/</a> [freifunk.net]<br><a href="http://www.hotspot-locations.com/modules.php?name=HotSpots&amp;op=hotspot\_query&amp;hsl\_countryhs=2DE&amp;hs\_state=&amp;hs\_city=&amp;hs\_operator=&amp;hsl\_type=&amp;hs\_access\_box=on&amp;search=Search" title="hotspot-locations.com">http://www.hotspot-locations.com/modules.php?name=HotSpots&amp;op=hotspot\_query&amp;hsl\_countryhs=2DE&amp;hs\_state=&amp;hs\_city=&amp;hs\_operator=&amp;hsl\_type=&amp;hs\_access\_box=on&amp;search=Search</a> [hotspot-locations.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just find a open WLAN and use that ...http : //start.freifunk.net/ [ freifunk.net ] http : //www.hotspot-locations.com/modules.php ? name = HotSpots&amp;op = hotspot \ _query&amp;hsl \ _countryhs = 2DE&amp;hs \ _state = &amp;hs \ _city = &amp;hs \ _operator = &amp;hsl \ _type = &amp;hs \ _access \ _box = on&amp;search = Search [ hotspot-locations.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just find a open WLAN and use that ...http://start.freifunk.net/ [freifunk.net]http://www.hotspot-locations.com/modules.php?name=HotSpots&amp;op=hotspot\_query&amp;hsl\_countryhs=2DE&amp;hs\_state=&amp;hs\_city=&amp;hs\_operator=&amp;hsl\_type=&amp;hs\_access\_box=on&amp;search=Search [hotspot-locations.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449462</id>
	<title>Be wary</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268387280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One thing to be aware of is limits to "unlimited" plans.  I was living in Holland for a number of months this Fall and was on a pre-paid Vodaphone for voice and data.  The "unlimited" monthly plan was capped at 500 megs and as soon as I went over it started to eat at my pre-paid stored balance in large chunks. While this sounds like a lot, it disappeared quickly.  Just be careful and be sure to ask about this for whatever plan you get.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One thing to be aware of is limits to " unlimited " plans .
I was living in Holland for a number of months this Fall and was on a pre-paid Vodaphone for voice and data .
The " unlimited " monthly plan was capped at 500 megs and as soon as I went over it started to eat at my pre-paid stored balance in large chunks .
While this sounds like a lot , it disappeared quickly .
Just be careful and be sure to ask about this for whatever plan you get .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One thing to be aware of is limits to "unlimited" plans.
I was living in Holland for a number of months this Fall and was on a pre-paid Vodaphone for voice and data.
The "unlimited" monthly plan was capped at 500 megs and as soon as I went over it started to eat at my pre-paid stored balance in large chunks.
While this sounds like a lot, it disappeared quickly.
Just be careful and be sure to ask about this for whatever plan you get.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450744</id>
	<title>T-Mobile HSDPA prepaid - 5&euro; / day</title>
	<author>tehrhart</author>
	<datestamp>1268404200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm a user of, and recommend T-Mobile's HSDPA options. They have a great option: &euro;5/day for unlimited access (prepaid). You only pay on days you connect, which makes it very worthwhile to use infrequently. I think it was ~ &euro;15 for the SIM card, with a &euro;5 startup credit. Stop by any T-Mobile shop (you'll find them everywhere) and you can buy one on the spot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm a user of , and recommend T-Mobile 's HSDPA options .
They have a great option :    5/day for unlimited access ( prepaid ) .
You only pay on days you connect , which makes it very worthwhile to use infrequently .
I think it was ~    15 for the SIM card , with a    5 startup credit .
Stop by any T-Mobile shop ( you 'll find them everywhere ) and you can buy one on the spot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm a user of, and recommend T-Mobile's HSDPA options.
They have a great option: €5/day for unlimited access (prepaid).
You only pay on days you connect, which makes it very worthwhile to use infrequently.
I think it was ~ €15 for the SIM card, with a €5 startup credit.
Stop by any T-Mobile shop (you'll find them everywhere) and you can buy one on the spot.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449598</id>
	<title>Just moved here</title>
	<author>mcelrath</author>
	<datestamp>1268389440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just moved to Germany and had to solve the same problem... You have only one choice, O2.  All the others require a long-term contract (usually 2 years) to obtain.  They wave their hands about getting out of the contract if you have a "good enough" reason, but you have to grovel before them and provide documentation.  The prepaid plans of all other companies do not offer data at all.  A "subscription" requires a residence and a German bank account so they can automatically debit (Lastschrift) and don't worry, they never make mistakes when debiting your account!  And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.

</p><p>O2 has several <a href="http://www.o2online.de/nw/tarife/prepaid/index.html?nidx=10028416#TabbedArea" title="o2online.de">packs</a> [o2online.de] you can add to your prepaid, the most interesting being "InternetM" which is 10 euro for 200 MB/month.  When you go over it still works but you're kicked down to about 6kb/s.  The "InternetL" pack provides 5GB for 25 euro/month, but they refused to add it to my prepaid plan.  Apparently it's only available with a subscription.

</p><p>The O2 network is kind of a joke.  It cuts out for ~minutes about once an hour, and ping times often exceed 30s.  My ssh and IMAP connections are regularly broken, and my IP gets reassigned very frequently.  I looked online at their accounting of my usage, and it's about 100 pages of crap.  They record every stupid packet.  (I suspect this is the reason it cuts out every hour -- they're running some program at the base station which sums your usage for the last hour)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just moved to Germany and had to solve the same problem... You have only one choice , O2 .
All the others require a long-term contract ( usually 2 years ) to obtain .
They wave their hands about getting out of the contract if you have a " good enough " reason , but you have to grovel before them and provide documentation .
The prepaid plans of all other companies do not offer data at all .
A " subscription " requires a residence and a German bank account so they can automatically debit ( Lastschrift ) and do n't worry , they never make mistakes when debiting your account !
And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies .
O2 has several packs [ o2online.de ] you can add to your prepaid , the most interesting being " InternetM " which is 10 euro for 200 MB/month .
When you go over it still works but you 're kicked down to about 6kb/s .
The " InternetL " pack provides 5GB for 25 euro/month , but they refused to add it to my prepaid plan .
Apparently it 's only available with a subscription .
The O2 network is kind of a joke .
It cuts out for ~ minutes about once an hour , and ping times often exceed 30s .
My ssh and IMAP connections are regularly broken , and my IP gets reassigned very frequently .
I looked online at their accounting of my usage , and it 's about 100 pages of crap .
They record every stupid packet .
( I suspect this is the reason it cuts out every hour -- they 're running some program at the base station which sums your usage for the last hour )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just moved to Germany and had to solve the same problem... You have only one choice, O2.
All the others require a long-term contract (usually 2 years) to obtain.
They wave their hands about getting out of the contract if you have a "good enough" reason, but you have to grovel before them and provide documentation.
The prepaid plans of all other companies do not offer data at all.
A "subscription" requires a residence and a German bank account so they can automatically debit (Lastschrift) and don't worry, they never make mistakes when debiting your account!
And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.
O2 has several packs [o2online.de] you can add to your prepaid, the most interesting being "InternetM" which is 10 euro for 200 MB/month.
When you go over it still works but you're kicked down to about 6kb/s.
The "InternetL" pack provides 5GB for 25 euro/month, but they refused to add it to my prepaid plan.
Apparently it's only available with a subscription.
The O2 network is kind of a joke.
It cuts out for ~minutes about once an hour, and ping times often exceed 30s.
My ssh and IMAP connections are regularly broken, and my IP gets reassigned very frequently.
I looked online at their accounting of my usage, and it's about 100 pages of crap.
They record every stupid packet.
(I suspect this is the reason it cuts out every hour -- they're running some program at the base station which sums your usage for the last hour)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451126</id>
	<title>Europe-wide options?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How's blau.de for roaming throughout Europe?  I'm going to be in Europe for 5 weeks this summer, part work, part vacation.  I'll be spending time in England, the Netherlands, a couple days in Germany (mostly travelling) and Switzerland.  Does anyone know if a plan and USB device I can either pick up in England that will work in all those places, or in the Netherlands (probably more realistic) that will work without roaming charges in both the Netherlands and Switzerland?</htmltext>
<tokenext>How 's blau.de for roaming throughout Europe ?
I 'm going to be in Europe for 5 weeks this summer , part work , part vacation .
I 'll be spending time in England , the Netherlands , a couple days in Germany ( mostly travelling ) and Switzerland .
Does anyone know if a plan and USB device I can either pick up in England that will work in all those places , or in the Netherlands ( probably more realistic ) that will work without roaming charges in both the Netherlands and Switzerland ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How's blau.de for roaming throughout Europe?
I'm going to be in Europe for 5 weeks this summer, part work, part vacation.
I'll be spending time in England, the Netherlands, a couple days in Germany (mostly travelling) and Switzerland.
Does anyone know if a plan and USB device I can either pick up in England that will work in all those places, or in the Netherlands (probably more realistic) that will work without roaming charges in both the Netherlands and Switzerland?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449118</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449508</id>
	<title>Information Resources</title>
	<author>chess</author>
	<datestamp>1268387820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Coverage:<br>http://www.t-mobile.de/funkversorgung/inland/<br>http://netmap.vodafone.de/cover4internet/index.jsp?appprofile=UMTS-Maps<br>http://www.o2online.de/nw/support/mobilfunk/netz/index.html<br>http://eis03sn1.eplus-online.de/evportal/portal/umts</p><p>Speed:<br>T-Mobile, Vodaphone have HSDPA 7.2Gb/s, O2 has HSDPA 3.6Gb/s, Eplus has 384Mb/s (UMTS)</p><p>Price:<br>http://www.teltarif.de/mobilfunk/datenrechner.html</p><p>As you are only interested in Prepaid, use this link and change the amount of Mb per month at the end of the URL from 310 to what you need:<br>http://www.teltarif.de/db/res-mobildaten.html?prepaid=1&amp;von=Heimatnetz&amp;mb=310</p><p>Can you read German? If so, look here:<br>http://www.teltarif.de/mobilfunk/</p><p>For news like this:<br>http://www.teltarif.de/tchibo-surfstick-30-euro/news/37951.html</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coverage : http : //www.t-mobile.de/funkversorgung/inland/http : //netmap.vodafone.de/cover4internet/index.jsp ? appprofile = UMTS-Mapshttp : //www.o2online.de/nw/support/mobilfunk/netz/index.htmlhttp : //eis03sn1.eplus-online.de/evportal/portal/umtsSpeed : T-Mobile , Vodaphone have HSDPA 7.2Gb/s , O2 has HSDPA 3.6Gb/s , Eplus has 384Mb/s ( UMTS ) Price : http : //www.teltarif.de/mobilfunk/datenrechner.htmlAs you are only interested in Prepaid , use this link and change the amount of Mb per month at the end of the URL from 310 to what you need : http : //www.teltarif.de/db/res-mobildaten.html ? prepaid = 1&amp;von = Heimatnetz&amp;mb = 310Can you read German ?
If so , look here : http : //www.teltarif.de/mobilfunk/For news like this : http : //www.teltarif.de/tchibo-surfstick-30-euro/news/37951.html</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Coverage:http://www.t-mobile.de/funkversorgung/inland/http://netmap.vodafone.de/cover4internet/index.jsp?appprofile=UMTS-Mapshttp://www.o2online.de/nw/support/mobilfunk/netz/index.htmlhttp://eis03sn1.eplus-online.de/evportal/portal/umtsSpeed:T-Mobile, Vodaphone have HSDPA 7.2Gb/s, O2 has HSDPA 3.6Gb/s, Eplus has 384Mb/s (UMTS)Price:http://www.teltarif.de/mobilfunk/datenrechner.htmlAs you are only interested in Prepaid, use this link and change the amount of Mb per month at the end of the URL from 310 to what you need:http://www.teltarif.de/db/res-mobildaten.html?prepaid=1&amp;von=Heimatnetz&amp;mb=310Can you read German?
If so, look here:http://www.teltarif.de/mobilfunk/For news like this:http://www.teltarif.de/tchibo-surfstick-30-euro/news/37951.html</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31454124</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268421120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A colleague recently used the Vodafone 9.95-for-one-week deal and said while it's marketed as limited to 1GB, he saw no actual limit and didn't notice a slowdown going beyond that volume.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A colleague recently used the Vodafone 9.95-for-one-week deal and said while it 's marketed as limited to 1GB , he saw no actual limit and did n't notice a slowdown going beyond that volume .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A colleague recently used the Vodafone 9.95-for-one-week deal and said while it's marketed as limited to 1GB, he saw no actual limit and didn't notice a slowdown going beyond that volume.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451364</id>
	<title>My recommendation:  Vodafone Web Sessions</title>
	<author>rockstein</author>
	<datestamp>1268408100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I live in Norway and work in Germany.  When I need 3G coverage in Germany, I use a Vodafone "WebSessions USB-Stick".  You can get one at any Vodafone store, it costs 29 Euro.  That USB stick allows you to access Vodafone's 3G network, you pay for that access by either registering a credit card or buying prepaid cards and applying them to your account.  Right now it costs:
15 Minutes: 0,49 &euro;
2 Hours: 1,95 &euro;
24 Hours: 4,95 &euro;
7 Days: 9,95 &euro;15 Minuten: 0,49 &euro;

The service works great.  The coverage in Germany is very good.  And, if you visit other countries with Vodafone coverage, you can use your Web Sessions account there...however, it is much more expensive and much more limited.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I live in Norway and work in Germany .
When I need 3G coverage in Germany , I use a Vodafone " WebSessions USB-Stick " .
You can get one at any Vodafone store , it costs 29 Euro .
That USB stick allows you to access Vodafone 's 3G network , you pay for that access by either registering a credit card or buying prepaid cards and applying them to your account .
Right now it costs : 15 Minutes : 0,49    2 Hours : 1,95    24 Hours : 4,95    7 Days : 9,95    15 Minuten : 0,49    The service works great .
The coverage in Germany is very good .
And , if you visit other countries with Vodafone coverage , you can use your Web Sessions account there...however , it is much more expensive and much more limited .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I live in Norway and work in Germany.
When I need 3G coverage in Germany, I use a Vodafone "WebSessions USB-Stick".
You can get one at any Vodafone store, it costs 29 Euro.
That USB stick allows you to access Vodafone's 3G network, you pay for that access by either registering a credit card or buying prepaid cards and applying them to your account.
Right now it costs:
15 Minutes: 0,49 €
2 Hours: 1,95 €
24 Hours: 4,95 €
7 Days: 9,95 €15 Minuten: 0,49 €

The service works great.
The coverage in Germany is very good.
And, if you visit other countries with Vodafone coverage, you can use your Web Sessions account there...however, it is much more expensive and much more limited.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449970</id>
	<title>What about pre-paid plans in FRANCE??</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268396160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone would like to share experiences with pre-paid plans in FRANCE? I'd love to hear about it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone would like to share experiences with pre-paid plans in FRANCE ?
I 'd love to hear about it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone would like to share experiences with pre-paid plans in FRANCE?
I'd love to hear about it!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449434</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268386800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seconded. Plus, the Internet prices are really the best. 24 cent per megabyte. (Install an instant messaging client on your phone [e.g. Nimbuzz], and you can send about 3000 SMS for that price). 1GB for 10&euro;, and a real full flat for 20&euro;.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seconded .
Plus , the Internet prices are really the best .
24 cent per megabyte .
( Install an instant messaging client on your phone [ e.g .
Nimbuzz ] , and you can send about 3000 SMS for that price ) .
1GB for 10    , and a real full flat for 20    .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seconded.
Plus, the Internet prices are really the best.
24 cent per megabyte.
(Install an instant messaging client on your phone [e.g.
Nimbuzz], and you can send about 3000 SMS for that price).
1GB for 10€, and a real full flat for 20€.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449532</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>lightversusdark</author>
	<datestamp>1268388180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod this up people - this is everything he needs to know for &euro;19.90.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod this up people - this is everything he needs to know for    19.90 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod this up people - this is everything he needs to know for €19.90.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449368</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449410</id>
	<title>Check for Networks first</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268386260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd recommend the following procedure:</p><p>First, look with your device, which networks are available at the place you are visiting. Pretty much all 4 Networks have a good coverage, with 3G it's sometimes complicated:</p><p>If you find a 3G-Network you could use the following prepaid-cards:</p><p>O2: Tchibo (coffe roastery, 20 &euro; / Month, 3G Medium, Edge good)<br>E-Plus: Aldi (discounter, 15&euro; / Month, bad 3G coverage, only 384k, afaik no Edge)<br>Vodafone: Bild (Newspaper online, don't know the price, 3G good, no clue about edge)<br>T-Mobile: Absolutely no clue which freely available prepaid uses it, but great 3G and Edge coverage</p><p>I usually use O2 or Vodafone, depending on which network is available. If you come to rural regions edge will pretty much the only option<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. in cities one has usual all the options</p><p>Christian from Germany</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd recommend the following procedure : First , look with your device , which networks are available at the place you are visiting .
Pretty much all 4 Networks have a good coverage , with 3G it 's sometimes complicated : If you find a 3G-Network you could use the following prepaid-cards : O2 : Tchibo ( coffe roastery , 20    / Month , 3G Medium , Edge good ) E-Plus : Aldi ( discounter , 15    / Month , bad 3G coverage , only 384k , afaik no Edge ) Vodafone : Bild ( Newspaper online , do n't know the price , 3G good , no clue about edge ) T-Mobile : Absolutely no clue which freely available prepaid uses it , but great 3G and Edge coverageI usually use O2 or Vodafone , depending on which network is available .
If you come to rural regions edge will pretty much the only option .. in cities one has usual all the optionsChristian from Germany</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd recommend the following procedure:First, look with your device, which networks are available at the place you are visiting.
Pretty much all 4 Networks have a good coverage, with 3G it's sometimes complicated:If you find a 3G-Network you could use the following prepaid-cards:O2: Tchibo (coffe roastery, 20 € / Month, 3G Medium, Edge good)E-Plus: Aldi (discounter, 15€ / Month, bad 3G coverage, only 384k, afaik no Edge)Vodafone: Bild (Newspaper online, don't know the price, 3G good, no clue about edge)T-Mobile: Absolutely no clue which freely available prepaid uses it, but great 3G and Edge coverageI usually use O2 or Vodafone, depending on which network is available.
If you come to rural regions edge will pretty much the only option .. in cities one has usual all the optionsChristian from Germany</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31463004</id>
	<title>Fonic</title>
	<author>alexandre\_ganso</author>
	<datestamp>1268482140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought one t-mobile usb stick, unblocked by the means of a swedish website that took me five euros, and used the fonic.de data plan. 2,50 euros a day, no data limit.</p><p>Thing is, I didn't know the fonic beforehand, so I got the t-mobile, which cost 5 euros a day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought one t-mobile usb stick , unblocked by the means of a swedish website that took me five euros , and used the fonic.de data plan .
2,50 euros a day , no data limit.Thing is , I did n't know the fonic beforehand , so I got the t-mobile , which cost 5 euros a day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought one t-mobile usb stick, unblocked by the means of a swedish website that took me five euros, and used the fonic.de data plan.
2,50 euros a day, no data limit.Thing is, I didn't know the fonic beforehand, so I got the t-mobile, which cost 5 euros a day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449960</id>
	<title>Fonic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268395980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know there are a crapload of replies already, but I will input my two cents here anyway.<br>I go to Germany quite often for a few days at a time and I find Fonic to be the best deal in my case<br>http://www.fonic.de/html/surfen\_vorteile.html<br>you pay a 2.50 EUR flat rate/day of use, and, if you sign up online you get your first 5 days for free.<br>Reception is also excellent, since they use the O2 network.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know there are a crapload of replies already , but I will input my two cents here anyway.I go to Germany quite often for a few days at a time and I find Fonic to be the best deal in my casehttp : //www.fonic.de/html/surfen \ _vorteile.htmlyou pay a 2.50 EUR flat rate/day of use , and , if you sign up online you get your first 5 days for free.Reception is also excellent , since they use the O2 network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know there are a crapload of replies already, but I will input my two cents here anyway.I go to Germany quite often for a few days at a time and I find Fonic to be the best deal in my casehttp://www.fonic.de/html/surfen\_vorteile.htmlyou pay a 2.50 EUR flat rate/day of use, and, if you sign up online you get your first 5 days for free.Reception is also excellent, since they use the O2 network.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451078</id>
	<title>Re:Dude, you're in central Europe</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268406360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you tried the links you gave? There are four (!) free public hotspots listed in Duesseldorf, a city with a population of half a million. Unfortunately, free public Wifi is for all intents and purposes non-existent in Germany, mostly due to the legal requirements but also due to UMTS access becoming affordable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you tried the links you gave ?
There are four ( !
) free public hotspots listed in Duesseldorf , a city with a population of half a million .
Unfortunately , free public Wifi is for all intents and purposes non-existent in Germany , mostly due to the legal requirements but also due to UMTS access becoming affordable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you tried the links you gave?
There are four (!
) free public hotspots listed in Duesseldorf, a city with a population of half a million.
Unfortunately, free public Wifi is for all intents and purposes non-existent in Germany, mostly due to the legal requirements but also due to UMTS access becoming affordable.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449154</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449750</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>bitsmith</author>
	<datestamp>1268391660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am currently on my second visit to Munich, Germany, and I can just confirm that blau.de for EUR 19.80/month just works well with my brand new Nokia N900. Internet radio and ssh sessions are just fine. Btw, you can buy them in dm drogeriemarkt stores for about EUR 7.00 (effectively EUR 10.00 credit), but you need credit EUR 15.00 more for activation (vouchers available almost everywhere), which is in German only. You also need to make a paid call to activate the SIM card.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am currently on my second visit to Munich , Germany , and I can just confirm that blau.de for EUR 19.80/month just works well with my brand new Nokia N900 .
Internet radio and ssh sessions are just fine .
Btw , you can buy them in dm drogeriemarkt stores for about EUR 7.00 ( effectively EUR 10.00 credit ) , but you need credit EUR 15.00 more for activation ( vouchers available almost everywhere ) , which is in German only .
You also need to make a paid call to activate the SIM card .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am currently on my second visit to Munich, Germany, and I can just confirm that blau.de for EUR 19.80/month just works well with my brand new Nokia N900.
Internet radio and ssh sessions are just fine.
Btw, you can buy them in dm drogeriemarkt stores for about EUR 7.00 (effectively EUR 10.00 credit), but you need credit EUR 15.00 more for activation (vouchers available almost everywhere), which is in German only.
You also need to make a paid call to activate the SIM card.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449368</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268385480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, blau.de is pretty good. But you will need internet access and some basic german skills to activate the card on their website.</p><p>100mb/30 days: EUR 3.90, activate by calling 1155 and pressing 8,1,4,1</p><p>1Gb/30 days: EUR9.90, 1155 and press 8,1,2,1</p><p>Unlimited/30 days: EUR19.90, dial 1155, press 8,1,3,1</p><p>All plans auto-extend the next month, to disable dial 1155 and press 8,2,1</p><p>APN: internet.eplus.de<br>Username: blau<br>Password: blau</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , blau.de is pretty good .
But you will need internet access and some basic german skills to activate the card on their website.100mb/30 days : EUR 3.90 , activate by calling 1155 and pressing 8,1,4,11Gb/30 days : EUR9.90 , 1155 and press 8,1,2,1Unlimited/30 days : EUR19.90 , dial 1155 , press 8,1,3,1All plans auto-extend the next month , to disable dial 1155 and press 8,2,1APN : internet.eplus.deUsername : blauPassword : blau</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, blau.de is pretty good.
But you will need internet access and some basic german skills to activate the card on their website.100mb/30 days: EUR 3.90, activate by calling 1155 and pressing 8,1,4,11Gb/30 days: EUR9.90, 1155 and press 8,1,2,1Unlimited/30 days: EUR19.90, dial 1155, press 8,1,3,1All plans auto-extend the next month, to disable dial 1155 and press 8,2,1APN: internet.eplus.deUsername: blauPassword: blau</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449740</id>
	<title>And for the states ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268391540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm looking for a simcard for the states (Going to Google I/O)  Whats the best one to get for like 2 weeks of Android data and local phone usage ?

I prefer prepaid<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) as i will have no use for it after i'm gone again after those 2 weeks</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm looking for a simcard for the states ( Going to Google I/O ) Whats the best one to get for like 2 weeks of Android data and local phone usage ?
I prefer prepaid : ) as i will have no use for it after i 'm gone again after those 2 weeks</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm looking for a simcard for the states (Going to Google I/O)  Whats the best one to get for like 2 weeks of Android data and local phone usage ?
I prefer prepaid :) as i will have no use for it after i'm gone again after those 2 weeks</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449284</id>
	<title>Get a Prepaid Stick in Germany</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268427180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have prepaid flats for one day and for one month = (1,99&euro;/day) 14,99 &euro; for 30 days. No further contract.</p><p>http://www.medionmobile.de</p><p>This belongs to a supermarket-chain, aldi. you can get more info in their stores, other brands probably have similiar offers, though this one was the cheapest last time i looked. Enjoy the freezeness.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have prepaid flats for one day and for one month = ( 1,99    /day ) 14,99    for 30 days .
No further contract.http : //www.medionmobile.deThis belongs to a supermarket-chain , aldi .
you can get more info in their stores , other brands probably have similiar offers , though this one was the cheapest last time i looked .
Enjoy the freezeness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have prepaid flats for one day and for one month = (1,99€/day) 14,99 € for 30 days.
No further contract.http://www.medionmobile.deThis belongs to a supermarket-chain, aldi.
you can get more info in their stores, other brands probably have similiar offers, though this one was the cheapest last time i looked.
Enjoy the freezeness.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31454132</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>baxnick</author>
	<datestamp>1268421180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I second the Tchibo vote. I moved to Germany on a short term basis recently and signed up with these guys.

It's completely prepaid, but you can sign up for a monthly "plan" which automatically deducts money each month in exchange for a data allowance. You can turn plans on/off by either texting a certain number and possibly via web interface too.

I signed up for the 5GB plan (shaped to 64kbit after) and it only costs &euro;20 a month, which seems a fair bit better than what most providers offer for heavy data users. The coverage isn't amazing compared to t-mobile but it's not too awful if you're not rural and for standard calls o2 has a roaming agreement with t-mobile as well. I get very good data rates and few dropouts using Tchibo in Augsburg as my sole internet connection aka. fairly heavy usage.

For anyone wondering why on Earth anyone would get 5GB of 3G data, the answer is tethering + living somewhere without wired internet.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I second the Tchibo vote .
I moved to Germany on a short term basis recently and signed up with these guys .
It 's completely prepaid , but you can sign up for a monthly " plan " which automatically deducts money each month in exchange for a data allowance .
You can turn plans on/off by either texting a certain number and possibly via web interface too .
I signed up for the 5GB plan ( shaped to 64kbit after ) and it only costs    20 a month , which seems a fair bit better than what most providers offer for heavy data users .
The coverage is n't amazing compared to t-mobile but it 's not too awful if you 're not rural and for standard calls o2 has a roaming agreement with t-mobile as well .
I get very good data rates and few dropouts using Tchibo in Augsburg as my sole internet connection aka .
fairly heavy usage .
For anyone wondering why on Earth anyone would get 5GB of 3G data , the answer is tethering + living somewhere without wired internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I second the Tchibo vote.
I moved to Germany on a short term basis recently and signed up with these guys.
It's completely prepaid, but you can sign up for a monthly "plan" which automatically deducts money each month in exchange for a data allowance.
You can turn plans on/off by either texting a certain number and possibly via web interface too.
I signed up for the 5GB plan (shaped to 64kbit after) and it only costs €20 a month, which seems a fair bit better than what most providers offer for heavy data users.
The coverage isn't amazing compared to t-mobile but it's not too awful if you're not rural and for standard calls o2 has a roaming agreement with t-mobile as well.
I get very good data rates and few dropouts using Tchibo in Augsburg as my sole internet connection aka.
fairly heavy usage.
For anyone wondering why on Earth anyone would get 5GB of 3G data, the answer is tethering + living somewhere without wired internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449316</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449152</id>
	<title>Avoid non-carrier providers!</title>
	<author>node159</author>
	<datestamp>1268424840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would only consider Vodafone and T-Mobile as your options, these two have established cell networks, all the others borrow on these networks and as such tend to be at the bottom of the traffic prioritization.</p><p>From my experience O2 is absolutely awful for any 3G, they are building up their own network, but if your not in range of one of their cells you can forget it.</p><p>As for getting it, I'd wait till your here, you are mandated to provide your passport details to get any SIM card, so they probably can't service you overseas.</p><p>As for getting a 3G stick and SIM once your here, just rock on in with your passport and a bunch of cash and you can be setup that day... however as for data plans...</p><p>Germany is crazy expensive... so don't expect to do any downloading over it, but you should be able to browse the net and check email 'n stuff.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would only consider Vodafone and T-Mobile as your options , these two have established cell networks , all the others borrow on these networks and as such tend to be at the bottom of the traffic prioritization.From my experience O2 is absolutely awful for any 3G , they are building up their own network , but if your not in range of one of their cells you can forget it.As for getting it , I 'd wait till your here , you are mandated to provide your passport details to get any SIM card , so they probably ca n't service you overseas.As for getting a 3G stick and SIM once your here , just rock on in with your passport and a bunch of cash and you can be setup that day... however as for data plans...Germany is crazy expensive... so do n't expect to do any downloading over it , but you should be able to browse the net and check email 'n stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would only consider Vodafone and T-Mobile as your options, these two have established cell networks, all the others borrow on these networks and as such tend to be at the bottom of the traffic prioritization.From my experience O2 is absolutely awful for any 3G, they are building up their own network, but if your not in range of one of their cells you can forget it.As for getting it, I'd wait till your here, you are mandated to provide your passport details to get any SIM card, so they probably can't service you overseas.As for getting a 3G stick and SIM once your here, just rock on in with your passport and a bunch of cash and you can be setup that day... however as for data plans...Germany is crazy expensive... so don't expect to do any downloading over it, but you should be able to browse the net and check email 'n stuff.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449564</id>
	<title>Re:Avoid non-carrier providers!</title>
	<author>Zebedeu</author>
	<datestamp>1268388720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>As for getting it, I'd wait till your here, you are mandated to provide your passport details to get any SIM card, so they probably can't service you overseas.</p></div><p>What? I've bought a few prepaid cards in Germany and never had to give my passport details. The ask for some personal details when you register, but it's automated and over the phone, so you can bullshit all you want (I did) and it'll still work.</p><p>You're probably thinking of contracts, but those wouldn't make sense for someone who just needs a few weeks worth of 3G.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As for getting it , I 'd wait till your here , you are mandated to provide your passport details to get any SIM card , so they probably ca n't service you overseas.What ?
I 've bought a few prepaid cards in Germany and never had to give my passport details .
The ask for some personal details when you register , but it 's automated and over the phone , so you can bullshit all you want ( I did ) and it 'll still work.You 're probably thinking of contracts , but those would n't make sense for someone who just needs a few weeks worth of 3G .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As for getting it, I'd wait till your here, you are mandated to provide your passport details to get any SIM card, so they probably can't service you overseas.What?
I've bought a few prepaid cards in Germany and never had to give my passport details.
The ask for some personal details when you register, but it's automated and over the phone, so you can bullshit all you want (I did) and it'll still work.You're probably thinking of contracts, but those wouldn't make sense for someone who just needs a few weeks worth of 3G.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31453796</id>
	<title>You need an ID</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268419680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Due to "security" concerns, you will need an ID to buy a prepaid SIM card. It does not matter where you buy it. I guess a passport will suffice.</p><p>* Fonic offers a calendar day flatrate on O2 network for 2.50 Euro which is one of the best offerings I know, also 9 ct per minute to other German numbers (land line and mobile) and also many foreign land line numbers (e.g. the US). They usually bundle it with a USB-UMTS stick but I think it is also available without. You will have to unlock the card via Internet before you can use it.<br>* Aldi Talk (Aldi is a large supermarket chain) seems also quite nice from the description, but I have no personal experience.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Due to " security " concerns , you will need an ID to buy a prepaid SIM card .
It does not matter where you buy it .
I guess a passport will suffice .
* Fonic offers a calendar day flatrate on O2 network for 2.50 Euro which is one of the best offerings I know , also 9 ct per minute to other German numbers ( land line and mobile ) and also many foreign land line numbers ( e.g .
the US ) .
They usually bundle it with a USB-UMTS stick but I think it is also available without .
You will have to unlock the card via Internet before you can use it .
* Aldi Talk ( Aldi is a large supermarket chain ) seems also quite nice from the description , but I have no personal experience .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Due to "security" concerns, you will need an ID to buy a prepaid SIM card.
It does not matter where you buy it.
I guess a passport will suffice.
* Fonic offers a calendar day flatrate on O2 network for 2.50 Euro which is one of the best offerings I know, also 9 ct per minute to other German numbers (land line and mobile) and also many foreign land line numbers (e.g.
the US).
They usually bundle it with a USB-UMTS stick but I think it is also available without.
You will have to unlock the card via Internet before you can use it.
* Aldi Talk (Aldi is a large supermarket chain) seems also quite nice from the description, but I have no personal experience.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449614</id>
	<title>Aldi/Medionmobile</title>
	<author>Niedi</author>
	<datestamp>1268389620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get the Aldi/Medionmobile stick. You can buy the stick for 49,99&amp;euro; in every aldi, the simcard is 12.99&amp;euro; with 10&amp;euro; already loaded onto the card (so the card itself is 2.99).<br><br>A one-day dataflat is 1.99, 30 days cost 14.99<br>after 1GB (dayflat) or 5GB(30day-flat) they will reduce your speed to 56K, but apart from that it's probably the best you'll get for your money out there.<br><br>more info on www.medionmobile.de</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get the Aldi/Medionmobile stick .
You can buy the stick for 49,99    in every aldi , the simcard is 12.99    with 10    already loaded onto the card ( so the card itself is 2.99 ) .A one-day dataflat is 1.99 , 30 days cost 14.99after 1GB ( dayflat ) or 5GB ( 30day-flat ) they will reduce your speed to 56K , but apart from that it 's probably the best you 'll get for your money out there.more info on www.medionmobile.de</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get the Aldi/Medionmobile stick.
You can buy the stick for 49,99€ in every aldi, the simcard is 12.99€ with 10€ already loaded onto the card (so the card itself is 2.99).A one-day dataflat is 1.99, 30 days cost 14.99after 1GB (dayflat) or 5GB(30day-flat) they will reduce your speed to 56K, but apart from that it's probably the best you'll get for your money out there.more info on www.medionmobile.de</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451114</id>
	<title>Re:Avoid non-carrier providers!</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1268406480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Also note that the value brands are most likely cheaper than the regular ones because they were created to compete in the low-price segment. For instance, E-Plus offers regular plans but they also have the brands Simyo (for those who want very simple pricing structures) and Base (which was apparently recently retooled to a build-your-own-flatrate model).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also note that the value brands are most likely cheaper than the regular ones because they were created to compete in the low-price segment .
For instance , E-Plus offers regular plans but they also have the brands Simyo ( for those who want very simple pricing structures ) and Base ( which was apparently recently retooled to a build-your-own-flatrate model ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also note that the value brands are most likely cheaper than the regular ones because they were created to compete in the low-price segment.
For instance, E-Plus offers regular plans but they also have the brands Simyo (for those who want very simple pricing structures) and Base (which was apparently recently retooled to a build-your-own-flatrate model).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449236</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450134</id>
	<title>Re:Just moved here</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268398860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, you got some bad advice there. You can get prepaid cards for all networks, both from the main operators and their subsidiaries as well as from other companies who just resell the network access, usually at a discount. Apart from the convenience of having a contract, there aren't many compelling reasons to avoid prepaid these days; plans are available for both data and voice, and prepaid starts out cheaper in the first place and is quicker to adjust the prices down over time. For instance, those 10 EUR that buy you 200 MB a month with a O2 contract buy me 1 GB. Not sure what gave you the idea that prepaid plans don't offer data; I'm staying with my prepaid plan because their (non-package) data charges are literally a tenth of the network operator's.</p><p>The O2 network is not a bad choice as a data carrier, mostly because they might be cheaper than T-Mobile, and their HDSPA ("3.5G") coverage is pretty good. Haven't been a customer for many years, though, and I doubt wireless data access will ever be as reliable as wired. I doubt the accounting program is to blame for your dropouts, though, that's just silly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you got some bad advice there .
You can get prepaid cards for all networks , both from the main operators and their subsidiaries as well as from other companies who just resell the network access , usually at a discount .
Apart from the convenience of having a contract , there are n't many compelling reasons to avoid prepaid these days ; plans are available for both data and voice , and prepaid starts out cheaper in the first place and is quicker to adjust the prices down over time .
For instance , those 10 EUR that buy you 200 MB a month with a O2 contract buy me 1 GB .
Not sure what gave you the idea that prepaid plans do n't offer data ; I 'm staying with my prepaid plan because their ( non-package ) data charges are literally a tenth of the network operator 's.The O2 network is not a bad choice as a data carrier , mostly because they might be cheaper than T-Mobile , and their HDSPA ( " 3.5G " ) coverage is pretty good .
Have n't been a customer for many years , though , and I doubt wireless data access will ever be as reliable as wired .
I doubt the accounting program is to blame for your dropouts , though , that 's just silly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you got some bad advice there.
You can get prepaid cards for all networks, both from the main operators and their subsidiaries as well as from other companies who just resell the network access, usually at a discount.
Apart from the convenience of having a contract, there aren't many compelling reasons to avoid prepaid these days; plans are available for both data and voice, and prepaid starts out cheaper in the first place and is quicker to adjust the prices down over time.
For instance, those 10 EUR that buy you 200 MB a month with a O2 contract buy me 1 GB.
Not sure what gave you the idea that prepaid plans don't offer data; I'm staying with my prepaid plan because their (non-package) data charges are literally a tenth of the network operator's.The O2 network is not a bad choice as a data carrier, mostly because they might be cheaper than T-Mobile, and their HDSPA ("3.5G") coverage is pretty good.
Haven't been a customer for many years, though, and I doubt wireless data access will ever be as reliable as wired.
I doubt the accounting program is to blame for your dropouts, though, that's just silly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449226</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>carp3\_noct3m</author>
	<datestamp>1268425980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I spent a month in Germany not too long ago and i got both vodaphone and blau cards but i really preferred the blau card and this was on my blackberry, as if i would ever pay the crazy ass rates att wants, pfff. As a matter of fact I still have it in one of my spare phones (gave my number to some peoples while I was there)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I spent a month in Germany not too long ago and i got both vodaphone and blau cards but i really preferred the blau card and this was on my blackberry , as if i would ever pay the crazy ass rates att wants , pfff .
As a matter of fact I still have it in one of my spare phones ( gave my number to some peoples while I was there )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spent a month in Germany not too long ago and i got both vodaphone and blau cards but i really preferred the blau card and this was on my blackberry, as if i would ever pay the crazy ass rates att wants, pfff.
As a matter of fact I still have it in one of my spare phones (gave my number to some peoples while I was there)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449118</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449520</id>
	<title>Take a look a simyo.de</title>
	<author>Wirr</author>
	<datestamp>1268388000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If lowest price is your priority, then you should have a look at simyo.de</p><p>They offer 1 GB for 9,95 Euros. The contingent is valid for 30 days. You can top up anytime you like, again 1 GB for 9,95 Euros valid for 30 days.</p><p>The real flatrates of the other providers are all around 30 euros per month.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If lowest price is your priority , then you should have a look at simyo.deThey offer 1 GB for 9,95 Euros .
The contingent is valid for 30 days .
You can top up anytime you like , again 1 GB for 9,95 Euros valid for 30 days.The real flatrates of the other providers are all around 30 euros per month .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If lowest price is your priority, then you should have a look at simyo.deThey offer 1 GB for 9,95 Euros.
The contingent is valid for 30 days.
You can top up anytime you like, again 1 GB for 9,95 Euros valid for 30 days.The real flatrates of the other providers are all around 30 euros per month.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449276</id>
	<title>fonic.de</title>
	<author>yacc143</author>
	<datestamp>1268426940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>2.5 per day internet, and reasonable voice prices</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>2.5 per day internet , and reasonable voice prices</tokentext>
<sentencetext>2.5 per day internet, and reasonable voice prices</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450676</id>
	<title>Get your priorities straight</title>
	<author>Stele</author>
	<datestamp>1268403660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I don't know what you're going to Germany for but I'd rather be sitting in beer gardens than poking around on the Internet. When I travel in Europe (for pleasure, anyway) I leave the net at home.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know what you 're going to Germany for but I 'd rather be sitting in beer gardens than poking around on the Internet .
When I travel in Europe ( for pleasure , anyway ) I leave the net at home .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know what you're going to Germany for but I'd rather be sitting in beer gardens than poking around on the Internet.
When I travel in Europe (for pleasure, anyway) I leave the net at home.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31452556</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268413800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>tchibo is using o2 network for their mobile internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>tchibo is using o2 network for their mobile internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>tchibo is using o2 network for their mobile internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449252</id>
	<title>A list of prepaid providers</title>
	<author>poszi</author>
	<datestamp>1268426580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html" title="prepaidgsm.net">Available here</a> [prepaidgsm.net]. Some have decent data plans (30-month unlimited GPRS, first 5GB on HSDPA is available in O2). You will need an unlocked GSM phone and buy a SIM card in Germany.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Available here [ prepaidgsm.net ] .
Some have decent data plans ( 30-month unlimited GPRS , first 5GB on HSDPA is available in O2 ) .
You will need an unlocked GSM phone and buy a SIM card in Germany .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Available here [prepaidgsm.net].
Some have decent data plans (30-month unlimited GPRS, first 5GB on HSDPA is available in O2).
You will need an unlocked GSM phone and buy a SIM card in Germany.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449206</id>
	<title>Fonic</title>
	<author>stefanb</author>
	<datestamp>1268425620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First T-Mobile USA has very little to do with T-Mobile Germany, except having the same owner. In fact, there's rumors that Deutsche Telekom wants to divest of T-Mobile USA, similarly to what the recently did in the UK. My experience has been that T-Mobile USA don't really care what's going on elsewhere in the world.</p><p> <a href="http://www.fonic.de/html/" title="fonic.de">Fonic</a> [fonic.de] is a service brand of O2 Germany (owned by Telefonica), offering pay as you go prepaid services, both voice and data. Their data offering is 2.50 Euros per calendar day, for a maximum of 1 GB transfer volume. O2's UMTS network offers HSUPA with up to 3.6Mbps down, 384 kbps up. Their coverage tends to be concentrated in urban areas; rural areas might have no coverage. If you exceed the transfer volume, speed will be limited to 64kbps for that day. Adding credit to the account can be done through credit card, direct debit from a German bank account, or by purchasing vouchers available at many stores. The sell a USB data stick for 60 Euros.</p><p>There's a couple more offerings, but most come with additional strings attached. With any offering, you technically will need a residency permit in the EU, with appropriate paperwork; some shops are less stringent than others. If you do have friends in Germany, have them order the package online in advance. You might want to get a seperate prepaid SIM for voice service as well, instead of international roaming.</p><p>Finally, if you do have friends living in Germany, ask them if their DSL or cable provider has good deals on package extensions for mobile data options. For example, <a href="http://www.alice-dsl.de/" title="alice-dsl.de">Alice</a> [alice-dsl.de] offers up to ten SIM cards for free, and has a 6 Euro per month data option available. Billing would go to whomever is paying for the DSL/Cable.</p><p>Finally, have fun!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First T-Mobile USA has very little to do with T-Mobile Germany , except having the same owner .
In fact , there 's rumors that Deutsche Telekom wants to divest of T-Mobile USA , similarly to what the recently did in the UK .
My experience has been that T-Mobile USA do n't really care what 's going on elsewhere in the world .
Fonic [ fonic.de ] is a service brand of O2 Germany ( owned by Telefonica ) , offering pay as you go prepaid services , both voice and data .
Their data offering is 2.50 Euros per calendar day , for a maximum of 1 GB transfer volume .
O2 's UMTS network offers HSUPA with up to 3.6Mbps down , 384 kbps up .
Their coverage tends to be concentrated in urban areas ; rural areas might have no coverage .
If you exceed the transfer volume , speed will be limited to 64kbps for that day .
Adding credit to the account can be done through credit card , direct debit from a German bank account , or by purchasing vouchers available at many stores .
The sell a USB data stick for 60 Euros.There 's a couple more offerings , but most come with additional strings attached .
With any offering , you technically will need a residency permit in the EU , with appropriate paperwork ; some shops are less stringent than others .
If you do have friends in Germany , have them order the package online in advance .
You might want to get a seperate prepaid SIM for voice service as well , instead of international roaming.Finally , if you do have friends living in Germany , ask them if their DSL or cable provider has good deals on package extensions for mobile data options .
For example , Alice [ alice-dsl.de ] offers up to ten SIM cards for free , and has a 6 Euro per month data option available .
Billing would go to whomever is paying for the DSL/Cable.Finally , have fun !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First T-Mobile USA has very little to do with T-Mobile Germany, except having the same owner.
In fact, there's rumors that Deutsche Telekom wants to divest of T-Mobile USA, similarly to what the recently did in the UK.
My experience has been that T-Mobile USA don't really care what's going on elsewhere in the world.
Fonic [fonic.de] is a service brand of O2 Germany (owned by Telefonica), offering pay as you go prepaid services, both voice and data.
Their data offering is 2.50 Euros per calendar day, for a maximum of 1 GB transfer volume.
O2's UMTS network offers HSUPA with up to 3.6Mbps down, 384 kbps up.
Their coverage tends to be concentrated in urban areas; rural areas might have no coverage.
If you exceed the transfer volume, speed will be limited to 64kbps for that day.
Adding credit to the account can be done through credit card, direct debit from a German bank account, or by purchasing vouchers available at many stores.
The sell a USB data stick for 60 Euros.There's a couple more offerings, but most come with additional strings attached.
With any offering, you technically will need a residency permit in the EU, with appropriate paperwork; some shops are less stringent than others.
If you do have friends in Germany, have them order the package online in advance.
You might want to get a seperate prepaid SIM for voice service as well, instead of international roaming.Finally, if you do have friends living in Germany, ask them if their DSL or cable provider has good deals on package extensions for mobile data options.
For example, Alice [alice-dsl.de] offers up to ten SIM cards for free, and has a 6 Euro per month data option available.
Billing would go to whomever is paying for the DSL/Cable.Finally, have fun!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449404</id>
	<title>t-mobile</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268386140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.t-mobile.de/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.t-mobile.de/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.t-mobile.de/</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449164</id>
	<title>Peter from Germany</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268425020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi,</p><p>There are only 4 WIFI networks in all of Germany, and all other service providers use one of these networks.  Quality here is better than in the US as the population is more dense, and there are not many empty spots where reception just drops off.  I have not heard of bad reception for WIFI here in Germany ever.</p><p>Your best bet would be when you first arrive, in the hotel ask where the next MediaMarkt or Saturn is (they are like best buy) you can find prepaid stuff there. In German that would be.</p><p>Wissen Sie wo ich ein Mediamarkt oder Saturn finden kann?</p><p>There are also mobile phone shops from providers EVERYWHERE. Vodaphone has shops, O2 has shops, T-Mobile has shops.  Just ask a local!</p><p>Wissen Sie wo ich ein O2-Laden finden kann?</p><p>und... das ist das! Tsch&#252;&#223;!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi,There are only 4 WIFI networks in all of Germany , and all other service providers use one of these networks .
Quality here is better than in the US as the population is more dense , and there are not many empty spots where reception just drops off .
I have not heard of bad reception for WIFI here in Germany ever.Your best bet would be when you first arrive , in the hotel ask where the next MediaMarkt or Saturn is ( they are like best buy ) you can find prepaid stuff there .
In German that would be.Wissen Sie wo ich ein Mediamarkt oder Saturn finden kann ? There are also mobile phone shops from providers EVERYWHERE .
Vodaphone has shops , O2 has shops , T-Mobile has shops .
Just ask a local ! Wissen Sie wo ich ein O2-Laden finden kann ? und... das ist das !
Tsch     !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi,There are only 4 WIFI networks in all of Germany, and all other service providers use one of these networks.
Quality here is better than in the US as the population is more dense, and there are not many empty spots where reception just drops off.
I have not heard of bad reception for WIFI here in Germany ever.Your best bet would be when you first arrive, in the hotel ask where the next MediaMarkt or Saturn is (they are like best buy) you can find prepaid stuff there.
In German that would be.Wissen Sie wo ich ein Mediamarkt oder Saturn finden kann?There are also mobile phone shops from providers EVERYWHERE.
Vodaphone has shops, O2 has shops, T-Mobile has shops.
Just ask a local!Wissen Sie wo ich ein O2-Laden finden kann?und... das ist das!
Tschüß!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449868</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>geogob</author>
	<datestamp>1268393940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been with blau.de for 2 months now. Their internet access is, I think, on of the cheapests. But, as always, the devil is in the details. Blau.de prepaid provider is on the E+ network. Of all cellphone networks in Germany, eplus is probably the worst. Coverage is limited and performances in most areas are poor (my performance comparison point is Rogers in eastern Canada). Altough the network is 3G, most of the time you won't reach 3G speeds and you often lose 3G connection. Then it usually kicks down to EDGE or even GPRS. For some reasons, the E+ network seems to be very sensitive to interference from other nearby cell towers.</p><p>If you plan on travelling, don't expect reliable connexion in trains or on the road with blau/eplus. From my experience, I could even say don't expect a connexion at all in trains... For a better reliability, t-mobile or vodafone based providers are a better choice, but the prepaid carriers do not offer good data packages like blau and the network providers themselves are total ripoffs.</p><p>All my experience is with smartphones. Blau also provides so called surf-sticks, but I have no reason to think their performances is any different than with 3G smartphones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been with blau.de for 2 months now .
Their internet access is , I think , on of the cheapests .
But , as always , the devil is in the details .
Blau.de prepaid provider is on the E + network .
Of all cellphone networks in Germany , eplus is probably the worst .
Coverage is limited and performances in most areas are poor ( my performance comparison point is Rogers in eastern Canada ) .
Altough the network is 3G , most of the time you wo n't reach 3G speeds and you often lose 3G connection .
Then it usually kicks down to EDGE or even GPRS .
For some reasons , the E + network seems to be very sensitive to interference from other nearby cell towers.If you plan on travelling , do n't expect reliable connexion in trains or on the road with blau/eplus .
From my experience , I could even say do n't expect a connexion at all in trains... For a better reliability , t-mobile or vodafone based providers are a better choice , but the prepaid carriers do not offer good data packages like blau and the network providers themselves are total ripoffs.All my experience is with smartphones .
Blau also provides so called surf-sticks , but I have no reason to think their performances is any different than with 3G smartphones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been with blau.de for 2 months now.
Their internet access is, I think, on of the cheapests.
But, as always, the devil is in the details.
Blau.de prepaid provider is on the E+ network.
Of all cellphone networks in Germany, eplus is probably the worst.
Coverage is limited and performances in most areas are poor (my performance comparison point is Rogers in eastern Canada).
Altough the network is 3G, most of the time you won't reach 3G speeds and you often lose 3G connection.
Then it usually kicks down to EDGE or even GPRS.
For some reasons, the E+ network seems to be very sensitive to interference from other nearby cell towers.If you plan on travelling, don't expect reliable connexion in trains or on the road with blau/eplus.
From my experience, I could even say don't expect a connexion at all in trains... For a better reliability, t-mobile or vodafone based providers are a better choice, but the prepaid carriers do not offer good data packages like blau and the network providers themselves are total ripoffs.All my experience is with smartphones.
Blau also provides so called surf-sticks, but I have no reason to think their performances is any different than with 3G smartphones.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450008</id>
	<title>Re:Just moved here</title>
	<author>Hal\_Porter</author>
	<datestamp>1268397120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> A "subscription" requires a residence and a German bank account so they can automatically debit (Lastschrift) and don't worry, they never make mistakes when debiting your account!  And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.</p></div><p>You shouldn't use sarcasm in Germany. It will be misunderstood.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A " subscription " requires a residence and a German bank account so they can automatically debit ( Lastschrift ) and do n't worry , they never make mistakes when debiting your account !
And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.You should n't use sarcasm in Germany .
It will be misunderstood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> A "subscription" requires a residence and a German bank account so they can automatically debit (Lastschrift) and don't worry, they never make mistakes when debiting your account!
And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.You shouldn't use sarcasm in Germany.
It will be misunderstood.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449208</id>
	<title>what about your cell phone?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268425740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>what about cell phone?  if you're worried about roaming and a huge bill, just unlock the device before you go and use a local carrier sim.  unlock almost any gsm device here:  <a href="http://gsmunlocklabs.com/" title="gsmunlocklabs.com" rel="nofollow">http://gsmunlocklabs.com/</a> [gsmunlocklabs.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>what about cell phone ?
if you 're worried about roaming and a huge bill , just unlock the device before you go and use a local carrier sim .
unlock almost any gsm device here : http : //gsmunlocklabs.com/ [ gsmunlocklabs.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what about cell phone?
if you're worried about roaming and a huge bill, just unlock the device before you go and use a local carrier sim.
unlock almost any gsm device here:  http://gsmunlocklabs.com/ [gsmunlocklabs.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449980</id>
	<title>Try Aldi</title>
	<author>seaton carew</author>
	<datestamp>1268396400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cheap, no contract, available over the counter almost everywhere as a SIM only or including dongle:<br><a href="http://www.medionmobile.de/index3.htm" title="medionmobile.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.medionmobile.de/index3.htm</a> [medionmobile.de]</p><p>Enjoy the trip!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cheap , no contract , available over the counter almost everywhere as a SIM only or including dongle : http : //www.medionmobile.de/index3.htm [ medionmobile.de ] Enjoy the trip !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cheap, no contract, available over the counter almost everywhere as a SIM only or including dongle:http://www.medionmobile.de/index3.htm [medionmobile.de]Enjoy the trip!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31453048</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268416440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This makes me angry</p></div><p>Don't look at Austrian data plans then.</p><p>("3": 0.02EUR/MB, 3GB for 9EUR/month, 15GB for 15EUR/month or unlimited for 25EUR; Telering: 1GB valid one year for 20EUR or 6GB for 10EUR/month)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This makes me angryDo n't look at Austrian data plans then .
( " 3 " : 0.02EUR/MB , 3GB for 9EUR/month , 15GB for 15EUR/month or unlimited for 25EUR ; Telering : 1GB valid one year for 20EUR or 6GB for 10EUR/month )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This makes me angryDon't look at Austrian data plans then.
("3": 0.02EUR/MB, 3GB for 9EUR/month, 15GB for 15EUR/month or unlimited for 25EUR; Telering: 1GB valid one year for 20EUR or 6GB for 10EUR/month)
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449120</id>
	<title>Internet cafe's</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268424360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well a lot of airports and such have free WiFi, and a lot of hotels offer internet in their rooms. On the move you should be fine by relying on internet cafe's strewn throughout the city.</p><p>Otherwise if you're dead set on getting an GRPS dongle for your own laptop, it might not be a bad idea to just wait and buy a pre-paid one in Germany itself.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well a lot of airports and such have free WiFi , and a lot of hotels offer internet in their rooms .
On the move you should be fine by relying on internet cafe 's strewn throughout the city.Otherwise if you 're dead set on getting an GRPS dongle for your own laptop , it might not be a bad idea to just wait and buy a pre-paid one in Germany itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well a lot of airports and such have free WiFi, and a lot of hotels offer internet in their rooms.
On the move you should be fine by relying on internet cafe's strewn throughout the city.Otherwise if you're dead set on getting an GRPS dongle for your own laptop, it might not be a bad idea to just wait and buy a pre-paid one in Germany itself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449692</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>seifried</author>
	<datestamp>1268390880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>1Gb/30 days: EUR9.90, 1155 and press 8,1,2,1</p></div><p>This makes me angry, I pay just over twice per month and I'm on a 2 year contract. Canada sucks donkey balls for data plans.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>1Gb/30 days : EUR9.90 , 1155 and press 8,1,2,1This makes me angry , I pay just over twice per month and I 'm on a 2 year contract .
Canada sucks donkey balls for data plans .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>1Gb/30 days: EUR9.90, 1155 and press 8,1,2,1This makes me angry, I pay just over twice per month and I'm on a 2 year contract.
Canada sucks donkey balls for data plans.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451442</id>
	<title>Small provider, good pre-paid prices: Solomo</title>
	<author>DarKlajid</author>
	<datestamp>1268408460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd recommend solomo (https://www.solomo.de):</p><p>- The guys are fair and the prices are good<br>- I know the people behind it personally: They really care (try it, ask for information over there)<br>- It seems they offer free twitter updates, if you're into that</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd recommend solomo ( https : //www.solomo.de ) : - The guys are fair and the prices are good- I know the people behind it personally : They really care ( try it , ask for information over there ) - It seems they offer free twitter updates , if you 're into that</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd recommend solomo (https://www.solomo.de):- The guys are fair and the prices are good- I know the people behind it personally: They really care (try it, ask for information over there)- It seems they offer free twitter updates, if you're into that</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449260</id>
	<title>blau.de: 9ct/min&amp;sms, 9euro for 1GB of traffic</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268426700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>if 1GB traffic is enough for you (and the e-plus net is good enough for you), then blau.de<br>is a good choice: 9euro for 1GB (to be used within 30 days). if you need more traffic,<br>you can simply buy another GB at the same price. calls are 9ct to all german networks<br>(landline and mobile), sms is 9 ct as well.</p><p>works well for me.</p><p>as alternative there is some new reseller using t-mobile net with only 7ct per min/sms.<br>but not sure if they had an attractive dataplan and I forgot the name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>if 1GB traffic is enough for you ( and the e-plus net is good enough for you ) , then blau.deis a good choice : 9euro for 1GB ( to be used within 30 days ) .
if you need more traffic,you can simply buy another GB at the same price .
calls are 9ct to all german networks ( landline and mobile ) , sms is 9 ct as well.works well for me.as alternative there is some new reseller using t-mobile net with only 7ct per min/sms.but not sure if they had an attractive dataplan and I forgot the name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if 1GB traffic is enough for you (and the e-plus net is good enough for you), then blau.deis a good choice: 9euro for 1GB (to be used within 30 days).
if you need more traffic,you can simply buy another GB at the same price.
calls are 9ct to all german networks(landline and mobile), sms is 9 ct as well.works well for me.as alternative there is some new reseller using t-mobile net with only 7ct per min/sms.but not sure if they had an attractive dataplan and I forgot the name.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450712</id>
	<title>Re:Avoid non-carrier providers!</title>
	<author>dave420</author>
	<datestamp>1268403960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm on O2 in Germany with a Palm Pre, and the 3G is fantastic, when not in the deepest, darkest Schwarzwald.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm on O2 in Germany with a Palm Pre , and the 3G is fantastic , when not in the deepest , darkest Schwarzwald .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm on O2 in Germany with a Palm Pre, and the 3G is fantastic, when not in the deepest, darkest Schwarzwald.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451438</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>egghat</author>
	<datestamp>1268408460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blau.de is an ePlus reseller and ePlus is the slowest network in Germany. A lot of areas are still EDGE, many are normal speed UMTS (384kbit/s) and only a few are UMTS/3G. A kind of "official" reseller of eplus is called <a href="http://www.simyo.de/" title="simyo.de">Simyo</a> [simyo.de]. They offer 1 Gig data for &euro; 9,95 valif for a month. If the gig is used up just buy a new card for 10 Euros. No plan whatsover.</p><p>o2 is the second of the two smaller providers in Germany. Their coverage ist a bit worse than that of eplus, but in urban areas their network is usuallly faster. o2 has a prepaid plan as well called <a href="http://www.fonic.de/" title="fonic.de">Fonic</a> [fonic.de]. Their rate is 2,50 Euros per day. USB stick costs 60 Euros.</p><p>Vodafone and T-Mobile are the two big providers and usually offer the best network coverage and best speed. But they are more expensive. A day with a maximum of 1 Gb costs 4,95 Euros (<a href="http://www.vodafone.de/privat/tarife/datentarife-websessions.html" title="vodafone.de">Vodafone Websessions</a> [vodafone.de]) or 4,95<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-) (<a href="http://www.t-mobile.de/tarife/0,10821,17773-\_1082,00.html" title="t-mobile.de">T-Mobile Websessions</a> [t-mobile.de]). Vodafone has 7 days with 1 Gb data for 9,95 as well.</p><p>USB sticks should be no problem. If you buy one at the phone store you'll get them some Euros cheaper, but in most cases they will have a simlock, but you can go to an electronics store and buy one without a simlock. That should be the easiest part<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>After a short check there are no pages in English on their websites (vodafone.nl has them).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blau.de is an ePlus reseller and ePlus is the slowest network in Germany .
A lot of areas are still EDGE , many are normal speed UMTS ( 384kbit/s ) and only a few are UMTS/3G .
A kind of " official " reseller of eplus is called Simyo [ simyo.de ] .
They offer 1 Gig data for    9,95 valif for a month .
If the gig is used up just buy a new card for 10 Euros .
No plan whatsover.o2 is the second of the two smaller providers in Germany .
Their coverage ist a bit worse than that of eplus , but in urban areas their network is usuallly faster .
o2 has a prepaid plan as well called Fonic [ fonic.de ] .
Their rate is 2,50 Euros per day .
USB stick costs 60 Euros.Vodafone and T-Mobile are the two big providers and usually offer the best network coverage and best speed .
But they are more expensive .
A day with a maximum of 1 Gb costs 4,95 Euros ( Vodafone Websessions [ vodafone.de ] ) or 4,95 ; - ) ( T-Mobile Websessions [ t-mobile.de ] ) .
Vodafone has 7 days with 1 Gb data for 9,95 as well.USB sticks should be no problem .
If you buy one at the phone store you 'll get them some Euros cheaper , but in most cases they will have a simlock , but you can go to an electronics store and buy one without a simlock .
That should be the easiest part ...After a short check there are no pages in English on their websites ( vodafone.nl has them ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blau.de is an ePlus reseller and ePlus is the slowest network in Germany.
A lot of areas are still EDGE, many are normal speed UMTS (384kbit/s) and only a few are UMTS/3G.
A kind of "official" reseller of eplus is called Simyo [simyo.de].
They offer 1 Gig data for € 9,95 valif for a month.
If the gig is used up just buy a new card for 10 Euros.
No plan whatsover.o2 is the second of the two smaller providers in Germany.
Their coverage ist a bit worse than that of eplus, but in urban areas their network is usuallly faster.
o2 has a prepaid plan as well called Fonic [fonic.de].
Their rate is 2,50 Euros per day.
USB stick costs 60 Euros.Vodafone and T-Mobile are the two big providers and usually offer the best network coverage and best speed.
But they are more expensive.
A day with a maximum of 1 Gb costs 4,95 Euros (Vodafone Websessions [vodafone.de]) or 4,95 ;-) (T-Mobile Websessions [t-mobile.de]).
Vodafone has 7 days with 1 Gb data for 9,95 as well.USB sticks should be no problem.
If you buy one at the phone store you'll get them some Euros cheaper, but in most cases they will have a simlock, but you can go to an electronics store and buy one without a simlock.
That should be the easiest part ...After a short check there are no pages in English on their websites (vodafone.nl has them).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449920</id>
	<title>Re:Just moved here</title>
	<author>moronoxyd</author>
	<datestamp>1268395020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>and a German bank account so they can automatically debit (Lastschrift) and don't worry, they never make mistakes when debiting your account! And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.</i></p><p>I've been using Lastschrift for some 20 years and never had anybody draw money from my account without my conscent.</p><p>But even if that will happen some day: You just need to contact you bank that you didn't approve that transaction and they have to transfer your money back. Then the other party has to prove that you gave them permission to access you account AND that the transaction is question was valid.</p><p>Here in Germany we actually have consumer rights.</p><p><i>The O2 network is kind of a joke. It cuts out for ~minutes about once an hour, and ping times often exceed 30s.</i></p><p>That's your experience.<br>I never had any major problems with the O2 net.</p><p>BTW, instead of using the O2 pakets you can use the O2 net via a reseller and get much better value for your money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>and a German bank account so they can automatically debit ( Lastschrift ) and do n't worry , they never make mistakes when debiting your account !
And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.I 've been using Lastschrift for some 20 years and never had anybody draw money from my account without my conscent.But even if that will happen some day : You just need to contact you bank that you did n't approve that transaction and they have to transfer your money back .
Then the other party has to prove that you gave them permission to access you account AND that the transaction is question was valid.Here in Germany we actually have consumer rights.The O2 network is kind of a joke .
It cuts out for ~ minutes about once an hour , and ping times often exceed 30s.That 's your experience.I never had any major problems with the O2 net.BTW , instead of using the O2 pakets you can use the O2 net via a reseller and get much better value for your money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and a German bank account so they can automatically debit (Lastschrift) and don't worry, they never make mistakes when debiting your account!
And organizations doing Lastschrift never get hacked because they employ magic warrior fairies.I've been using Lastschrift for some 20 years and never had anybody draw money from my account without my conscent.But even if that will happen some day: You just need to contact you bank that you didn't approve that transaction and they have to transfer your money back.
Then the other party has to prove that you gave them permission to access you account AND that the transaction is question was valid.Here in Germany we actually have consumer rights.The O2 network is kind of a joke.
It cuts out for ~minutes about once an hour, and ping times often exceed 30s.That's your experience.I never had any major problems with the O2 net.BTW, instead of using the O2 pakets you can use the O2 net via a reseller and get much better value for your money.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449638</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>lennier1</author>
	<datestamp>1268390040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Great summary but please don't forget to mention that the "unlimited" plan contains 5GB per month at 3G speed.<br>After that it's limited to GPRS. Same situation with the 1GB data plan. A common measure on many networks.</p><p>Voice call minutes are deducted separately from the prepaid credits but blau actually has fairly good rates.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Great summary but please do n't forget to mention that the " unlimited " plan contains 5GB per month at 3G speed.After that it 's limited to GPRS .
Same situation with the 1GB data plan .
A common measure on many networks.Voice call minutes are deducted separately from the prepaid credits but blau actually has fairly good rates .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great summary but please don't forget to mention that the "unlimited" plan contains 5GB per month at 3G speed.After that it's limited to GPRS.
Same situation with the 1GB data plan.
A common measure on many networks.Voice call minutes are deducted separately from the prepaid credits but blau actually has fairly good rates.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451214</id>
	<title>Re:Just moved here</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1268407200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I just moved to Germany and had to solve the same problem... You have only one choice, O2. All the others require a long-term contract (usually 2 years) to obtain.</p></div></blockquote><p>Or you buy a prepaid SIM card which doesn't have a contract attached. Sold by all providers and virtually all value brands.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I just moved to Germany and had to solve the same problem... You have only one choice , O2 .
All the others require a long-term contract ( usually 2 years ) to obtain.Or you buy a prepaid SIM card which does n't have a contract attached .
Sold by all providers and virtually all value brands .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just moved to Germany and had to solve the same problem... You have only one choice, O2.
All the others require a long-term contract (usually 2 years) to obtain.Or you buy a prepaid SIM card which doesn't have a contract attached.
Sold by all providers and virtually all value brands.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449598</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31451504</id>
	<title>Have a look here</title>
	<author>jonbryce</author>
	<datestamp>1268408820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html" title="prepaidgsm.net">http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html</a> [prepaidgsm.net]</p><p>They have details of all the networks, and links to their websites (mostly in German).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html [ prepaidgsm.net ] They have details of all the networks , and links to their websites ( mostly in German ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.prepaidgsm.net/en/germany.html [prepaidgsm.net]They have details of all the networks, and links to their websites (mostly in German).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449246</id>
	<title>some advice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268426520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>With two upcoming trips to Germany, and no readily available Internet (WiFi or otherwise) in the location where we'll be staying</p></div><p>Some kind of youth hostel or camping site? Or maybe somewhere "far" (which isn't really possible - there wouldn't be a place where you could stay, unless you're bringing your own tent) from civilization? Then make sure you're getting either D1 (t-mobile, best option) or D2 (vodafone), or any D1/D2 reseller, all others don't have worse coverage (E+, O2).</p><p>Be careful. There are two kind of plans available: Cheap web-only through proxy-only with all ports locked (sometimes including even free access to the reseller's own site - e.g. at least two TV-companies are offering such access), and real access. The price differs accordingly - between 2 EUR/day flat, or some EUR/MB.</p><p>If you need it for anything else than http, make sure you're not getting something that's both expensive and to restricted for what you need it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>With two upcoming trips to Germany , and no readily available Internet ( WiFi or otherwise ) in the location where we 'll be stayingSome kind of youth hostel or camping site ?
Or maybe somewhere " far " ( which is n't really possible - there would n't be a place where you could stay , unless you 're bringing your own tent ) from civilization ?
Then make sure you 're getting either D1 ( t-mobile , best option ) or D2 ( vodafone ) , or any D1/D2 reseller , all others do n't have worse coverage ( E + , O2 ) .Be careful .
There are two kind of plans available : Cheap web-only through proxy-only with all ports locked ( sometimes including even free access to the reseller 's own site - e.g .
at least two TV-companies are offering such access ) , and real access .
The price differs accordingly - between 2 EUR/day flat , or some EUR/MB.If you need it for anything else than http , make sure you 're not getting something that 's both expensive and to restricted for what you need it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With two upcoming trips to Germany, and no readily available Internet (WiFi or otherwise) in the location where we'll be stayingSome kind of youth hostel or camping site?
Or maybe somewhere "far" (which isn't really possible - there wouldn't be a place where you could stay, unless you're bringing your own tent) from civilization?
Then make sure you're getting either D1 (t-mobile, best option) or D2 (vodafone), or any D1/D2 reseller, all others don't have worse coverage (E+, O2).Be careful.
There are two kind of plans available: Cheap web-only through proxy-only with all ports locked (sometimes including even free access to the reseller's own site - e.g.
at least two TV-companies are offering such access), and real access.
The price differs accordingly - between 2 EUR/day flat, or some EUR/MB.If you need it for anything else than http, make sure you're not getting something that's both expensive and to restricted for what you need it.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449386</id>
	<title>Tchibo</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268385840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was in Tchibo (a coffee store) this week and they've got the USB sticks for 30 Euro. It comes with 3 free days. It's the O2 network. I'm not sure how much it costs per day, but it's 20 Euro a month. So grab yourself some coffee and some internet and enjoy Germany.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was in Tchibo ( a coffee store ) this week and they 've got the USB sticks for 30 Euro .
It comes with 3 free days .
It 's the O2 network .
I 'm not sure how much it costs per day , but it 's 20 Euro a month .
So grab yourself some coffee and some internet and enjoy Germany .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was in Tchibo (a coffee store) this week and they've got the USB sticks for 30 Euro.
It comes with 3 free days.
It's the O2 network.
I'm not sure how much it costs per day, but it's 20 Euro a month.
So grab yourself some coffee and some internet and enjoy Germany.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31453676</id>
	<title>Vodafone</title>
	<author>saadmubeen</author>
	<datestamp>1268419260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What happened to vodafone . Very Strange !!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>What happened to vodafone .
Very Strange ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happened to vodafone .
Very Strange !!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450944</id>
	<title>They wil speak English in any phone shop.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268405580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Almost anybody speaks (at least some) English here in Germany. Just pick one of the above mentioned operators and go into the next phone shop (there are actually a lot of them in every city) and explain your needs there. Likely, they will be able to sell you everything you need for mobile internet...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Almost anybody speaks ( at least some ) English here in Germany .
Just pick one of the above mentioned operators and go into the next phone shop ( there are actually a lot of them in every city ) and explain your needs there .
Likely , they will be able to sell you everything you need for mobile internet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Almost anybody speaks (at least some) English here in Germany.
Just pick one of the above mentioned operators and go into the next phone shop (there are actually a lot of them in every city) and explain your needs there.
Likely, they will be able to sell you everything you need for mobile internet...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449236</id>
	<title>Re:Avoid non-carrier providers!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268426280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I would only consider Vodafone and T-Mobile as your options, these two have established cell networks, all the others borrow on these networks and as such tend to be at the bottom of the traffic prioritization.</p></div><p>Nonsense. There's four network operators in Germany: T-Mobile, Vodafone, E-Plus, and O2 Germany. While T-Mobile and Vodafone have a larger buildout (higher density, more towers in rural areas), E-Plus and O2 are not that far behind. I find that O2's network works really well in cities, with no noticable degradation compared to T-Mobile.</p><p>All four operators have their own "value" brands, and there's a couple of MVNOs, and as far as I can tell, no priorisation is in effect for any user. If you do have coverage, chances are that you will have excellent throughput. Nothing like certain US operators...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would only consider Vodafone and T-Mobile as your options , these two have established cell networks , all the others borrow on these networks and as such tend to be at the bottom of the traffic prioritization.Nonsense .
There 's four network operators in Germany : T-Mobile , Vodafone , E-Plus , and O2 Germany .
While T-Mobile and Vodafone have a larger buildout ( higher density , more towers in rural areas ) , E-Plus and O2 are not that far behind .
I find that O2 's network works really well in cities , with no noticable degradation compared to T-Mobile.All four operators have their own " value " brands , and there 's a couple of MVNOs , and as far as I can tell , no priorisation is in effect for any user .
If you do have coverage , chances are that you will have excellent throughput .
Nothing like certain US operators.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would only consider Vodafone and T-Mobile as your options, these two have established cell networks, all the others borrow on these networks and as such tend to be at the bottom of the traffic prioritization.Nonsense.
There's four network operators in Germany: T-Mobile, Vodafone, E-Plus, and O2 Germany.
While T-Mobile and Vodafone have a larger buildout (higher density, more towers in rural areas), E-Plus and O2 are not that far behind.
I find that O2's network works really well in cities, with no noticable degradation compared to T-Mobile.All four operators have their own "value" brands, and there's a couple of MVNOs, and as far as I can tell, no priorisation is in effect for any user.
If you do have coverage, chances are that you will have excellent throughput.
Nothing like certain US operators...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449152</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449424</id>
	<title>Some options</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268386440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you need mobile Internet on your cell, you do not have that many options:</p><p>Simyo (http://www.simyo.de)has a 9,99 &euro; for 30 days / 1GB limit data plan.<br>Blau.de (http://www.blau.de) has the same plus a 19,80 &euro; plan for unlimited data access for 30 days.</p><p>They do however use the E-Plus carrier network, which doesn't quiet offer the same coverage as Vodafone or T-Mobile and in most locations only offers basic UMTS with 1,2 MBit downspeed or even just EDGE. They just recently started upgrading to HSDPA in selected areas, but it is still far from the regular T-Mobile and Vodafone who offer 3,6 or 7,2 MBit almost everywhere.<br>Vodafone and T-Mobile don't offer any (reasonably) prepaid/non-contract data plans with voice service as far as I know.</p><p>If you only need a USB-Stick for internet connectivity on your laptop, you may want to look at maxxim (http://www.maxxim.de) or simplydata (http://www.simplydata.de). They both offer a pure data (no voiceservice) for 19,95&euro; / month for unlimited data in the T-Mobile network, which does however cost a 24,95 one-time setup fee. If you need USB-Stick you can get it from them for 49,95&euro;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you need mobile Internet on your cell , you do not have that many options : Simyo ( http : //www.simyo.de ) has a 9,99    for 30 days / 1GB limit data plan.Blau.de ( http : //www.blau.de ) has the same plus a 19,80    plan for unlimited data access for 30 days.They do however use the E-Plus carrier network , which does n't quiet offer the same coverage as Vodafone or T-Mobile and in most locations only offers basic UMTS with 1,2 MBit downspeed or even just EDGE .
They just recently started upgrading to HSDPA in selected areas , but it is still far from the regular T-Mobile and Vodafone who offer 3,6 or 7,2 MBit almost everywhere.Vodafone and T-Mobile do n't offer any ( reasonably ) prepaid/non-contract data plans with voice service as far as I know.If you only need a USB-Stick for internet connectivity on your laptop , you may want to look at maxxim ( http : //www.maxxim.de ) or simplydata ( http : //www.simplydata.de ) .
They both offer a pure data ( no voiceservice ) for 19,95    / month for unlimited data in the T-Mobile network , which does however cost a 24,95 one-time setup fee .
If you need USB-Stick you can get it from them for 49,95   </tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you need mobile Internet on your cell, you do not have that many options:Simyo (http://www.simyo.de)has a 9,99 € for 30 days / 1GB limit data plan.Blau.de (http://www.blau.de) has the same plus a 19,80 € plan for unlimited data access for 30 days.They do however use the E-Plus carrier network, which doesn't quiet offer the same coverage as Vodafone or T-Mobile and in most locations only offers basic UMTS with 1,2 MBit downspeed or even just EDGE.
They just recently started upgrading to HSDPA in selected areas, but it is still far from the regular T-Mobile and Vodafone who offer 3,6 or 7,2 MBit almost everywhere.Vodafone and T-Mobile don't offer any (reasonably) prepaid/non-contract data plans with voice service as far as I know.If you only need a USB-Stick for internet connectivity on your laptop, you may want to look at maxxim (http://www.maxxim.de) or simplydata (http://www.simplydata.de).
They both offer a pure data (no voiceservice) for 19,95€ / month for unlimited data in the T-Mobile network, which does however cost a 24,95 one-time setup fee.
If you need USB-Stick you can get it from them for 49,95€</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449686</id>
	<title>Re:Avoid non-carrier providers!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268390700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>E-Plus does not have HSDPA, only plain UMTS. If you want more than 384kbit you should avoid it. Vodafone and T-Mobile have, on average, the fastest networks. O2 is on par in many cities, but not everywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>E-Plus does not have HSDPA , only plain UMTS .
If you want more than 384kbit you should avoid it .
Vodafone and T-Mobile have , on average , the fastest networks .
O2 is on par in many cities , but not everywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>E-Plus does not have HSDPA, only plain UMTS.
If you want more than 384kbit you should avoid it.
Vodafone and T-Mobile have, on average, the fastest networks.
O2 is on par in many cities, but not everywhere.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449118</id>
	<title>I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>pleumann</author>
	<datestamp>1268424360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They have good pricing for telephony and internet access, and their website is easy to use.</p><p>OMG - first post?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have good pricing for telephony and internet access , and their website is easy to use.OMG - first post ?
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They have good pricing for telephony and internet access, and their website is easy to use.OMG - first post?
:)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450504</id>
	<title>fonic.de 2.50/day, simyo.de 10/month or 1Gb</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268402400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It really depends on your needed data speed. If you need 3G in rural areas you have to go with vodafone and t-mobile, as far as I know. If you don't need high speed data or are a city you can use other providers. The mentioned fonic.de with EUR2,50 per day is pretty nice, and I use it for my laptop when I'm not at home. For my N900 smartphone I use the simyo.de tarif, where you get 1Gb or one month, whichever ends first, for EUR9,95. That's plenty enough for my N900, but for my laptop I use the 1Gb/day fonic.de offer. Both charge 9cent per minute for calls. Have a nice stay!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It really depends on your needed data speed .
If you need 3G in rural areas you have to go with vodafone and t-mobile , as far as I know .
If you do n't need high speed data or are a city you can use other providers .
The mentioned fonic.de with EUR2,50 per day is pretty nice , and I use it for my laptop when I 'm not at home .
For my N900 smartphone I use the simyo.de tarif , where you get 1Gb or one month , whichever ends first , for EUR9,95 .
That 's plenty enough for my N900 , but for my laptop I use the 1Gb/day fonic.de offer .
Both charge 9cent per minute for calls .
Have a nice stay !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It really depends on your needed data speed.
If you need 3G in rural areas you have to go with vodafone and t-mobile, as far as I know.
If you don't need high speed data or are a city you can use other providers.
The mentioned fonic.de with EUR2,50 per day is pretty nice, and I use it for my laptop when I'm not at home.
For my N900 smartphone I use the simyo.de tarif, where you get 1Gb or one month, whichever ends first, for EUR9,95.
That's plenty enough for my N900, but for my laptop I use the 1Gb/day fonic.de offer.
Both charge 9cent per minute for calls.
Have a nice stay!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31452226</id>
	<title>O2 Online</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268412240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can highly recommend the O2o prepaid plan by O2.<br>For 25 euro / month you get 5GB of data. They have a very good network however in some very rural parts of the country you may only get crappy edge speeds.<br>On my last trip to Germany that is why I also got a t-mobile germany prepaid dayflat surf sim. Which is like 4 or 5 euros a day. Only had to use it twice while I was in east germany because the t-mobile edge network seemed to be faster than the 02 network.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can highly recommend the O2o prepaid plan by O2.For 25 euro / month you get 5GB of data .
They have a very good network however in some very rural parts of the country you may only get crappy edge speeds.On my last trip to Germany that is why I also got a t-mobile germany prepaid dayflat surf sim .
Which is like 4 or 5 euros a day .
Only had to use it twice while I was in east germany because the t-mobile edge network seemed to be faster than the 02 network .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can highly recommend the O2o prepaid plan by O2.For 25 euro / month you get 5GB of data.
They have a very good network however in some very rural parts of the country you may only get crappy edge speeds.On my last trip to Germany that is why I also got a t-mobile germany prepaid dayflat surf sim.
Which is like 4 or 5 euros a day.
Only had to use it twice while I was in east germany because the t-mobile edge network seemed to be faster than the 02 network.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449316</id>
	<title>Re:I recommend blau.de</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268384700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or Tchibo. Similar pricing scheme (buy 1GB at a time and use it as you please... pretty cool) and on o2 (HSDPA coverage isn't bad, with downloads regularly hitting a constant 400-500KB/s).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or Tchibo .
Similar pricing scheme ( buy 1GB at a time and use it as you please... pretty cool ) and on o2 ( HSDPA coverage is n't bad , with downloads regularly hitting a constant 400-500KB/s ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or Tchibo.
Similar pricing scheme (buy 1GB at a time and use it as you please... pretty cool) and on o2 (HSDPA coverage isn't bad, with downloads regularly hitting a constant 400-500KB/s).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449118</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449244</id>
	<title>Voda or T-Mobile</title>
	<author>hart</author>
	<datestamp>1268426400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>T-Mobile have hotspots all over the place (cafe's, hotels, etc) and at &euro;29 for a month's access (pre-paid, sign up online at any hot spot) you can't beat the price.  If you are absolutely certain that no wifi is available where you're going then the previous posters advice of visiting a Vodafone or T-Mobile shop when you land is spot on - both have very good networks in Germany.  You can't beat the price of buying local when you arrive!

Vodafone USB stick without contract: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fshop.vodafone.de\%2FShop\%2Fpicknmix\%2Fchoose\_callya\_tariff.jsp\%3FpropositionId\%3Dprod233554&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fshop.vodafone.de\%2FShop\%2Fpicknmix\%2Fchoose\_callya\_tariff.jsp\%3FpropositionId\%3Dprod233554&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en</a> [google.com]

T-Mobile: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.t-mobile.de\%2Fmobiles-internet\%2Fmit-dem-notebook\%2F0\%2C20338\%2C23098-\_\%2C00.html" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.t-mobile.de\%2Fmobiles-internet\%2Fmit-dem-notebook\%2F0\%2C20338\%2C23098-\_\%2C00.html</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>T-Mobile have hotspots all over the place ( cafe 's , hotels , etc ) and at    29 for a month 's access ( pre-paid , sign up online at any hot spot ) you ca n't beat the price .
If you are absolutely certain that no wifi is available where you 're going then the previous posters advice of visiting a Vodafone or T-Mobile shop when you land is spot on - both have very good networks in Germany .
You ca n't beat the price of buying local when you arrive !
Vodafone USB stick without contract : http : //translate.google.com/translate ? js = y&amp;prev = \ _t&amp;hl = en&amp;ie = UTF-8&amp;layout = 2&amp;eotf = 1&amp;u = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fshop.vodafone.de \ % 2FShop \ % 2Fpicknmix \ % 2Fchoose \ _callya \ _tariff.jsp \ % 3FpropositionId \ % 3Dprod233554&amp;sl = de&amp;tl = en [ google.com ] T-Mobile : http : //translate.google.com/translate ? hl = en&amp;sl = de&amp;tl = en&amp;u = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fwww.t-mobile.de \ % 2Fmobiles-internet \ % 2Fmit-dem-notebook \ % 2F0 \ % 2C20338 \ % 2C23098- \ _ \ % 2C00.html [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>T-Mobile have hotspots all over the place (cafe's, hotels, etc) and at €29 for a month's access (pre-paid, sign up online at any hot spot) you can't beat the price.
If you are absolutely certain that no wifi is available where you're going then the previous posters advice of visiting a Vodafone or T-Mobile shop when you land is spot on - both have very good networks in Germany.
You can't beat the price of buying local when you arrive!
Vodafone USB stick without contract: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fshop.vodafone.de\%2FShop\%2Fpicknmix\%2Fchoose\_callya\_tariff.jsp\%3FpropositionId\%3Dprod233554&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en [google.com]

T-Mobile: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.t-mobile.de\%2Fmobiles-internet\%2Fmit-dem-notebook\%2F0\%2C20338\%2C23098-\_\%2C00.html [google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449360</id>
	<title>Easy ...</title>
	<author>garry\_g</author>
	<datestamp>1268385300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can multiple mobile pre-paid cards in Germany<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... just check at any supermarket (Aldi, Lidl, etc.), they have cheap stuff out there<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... e.g. Fonic has a 2,50 daily flatrate (pay as you go, no charge on days you don't use it) that you can use up to 1Gig (slowed down to GPRS over 1G), Blau.de as was mentioned above<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Anyway, it seems to be lot more common and readily available here than in the US - I've been trying to find an affordable, non-contract (or short-term contract, 1month) mobile data sim (preferably for use in my G1), but even if I'm willing to pay upward of $70 for a month of access, they add setup-fees and stuff to it, pushing it well beyond 100$ quickly<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can multiple mobile pre-paid cards in Germany ... just check at any supermarket ( Aldi , Lidl , etc .
) , they have cheap stuff out there ... e.g. Fonic has a 2,50 daily flatrate ( pay as you go , no charge on days you do n't use it ) that you can use up to 1Gig ( slowed down to GPRS over 1G ) , Blau.de as was mentioned above ...Anyway , it seems to be lot more common and readily available here than in the US - I 've been trying to find an affordable , non-contract ( or short-term contract , 1month ) mobile data sim ( preferably for use in my G1 ) , but even if I 'm willing to pay upward of $ 70 for a month of access , they add setup-fees and stuff to it , pushing it well beyond 100 $ quickly .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can multiple mobile pre-paid cards in Germany ... just check at any supermarket (Aldi, Lidl, etc.
), they have cheap stuff out there ... e.g. Fonic has a 2,50 daily flatrate (pay as you go, no charge on days you don't use it) that you can use up to 1Gig (slowed down to GPRS over 1G), Blau.de as was mentioned above ...Anyway, it seems to be lot more common and readily available here than in the US - I've been trying to find an affordable, non-contract (or short-term contract, 1month) mobile data sim (preferably for use in my G1), but even if I'm willing to pay upward of $70 for a month of access, they add setup-fees and stuff to it, pushing it well beyond 100$ quickly ...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31449948</id>
	<title>aldi?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268395680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.billiger-telefonieren.de/aldi-surfstick-flatrate-webstick/" title="billiger-telefonieren.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.billiger-telefonieren.de/aldi-surfstick-flatrate-webstick/</a> [billiger-telefonieren.de]</p><p>Sorry, link is in german, maybe babelfish will help out.</p><p>I have the austrian "hofer" equivalent, which is a pure data prepaid. It seems to work slightly differently in germany, where it's an addition to a prepaid voice sim. I'd acctually prefer the german style, but oh well.</p><p>I'd recommend combining it with a S60(or Maemo) Joikuspot compatible handset, that way you can use the voice part as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.billiger-telefonieren.de/aldi-surfstick-flatrate-webstick/ [ billiger-telefonieren.de ] Sorry , link is in german , maybe babelfish will help out.I have the austrian " hofer " equivalent , which is a pure data prepaid .
It seems to work slightly differently in germany , where it 's an addition to a prepaid voice sim .
I 'd acctually prefer the german style , but oh well.I 'd recommend combining it with a S60 ( or Maemo ) Joikuspot compatible handset , that way you can use the voice part as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.billiger-telefonieren.de/aldi-surfstick-flatrate-webstick/ [billiger-telefonieren.de]Sorry, link is in german, maybe babelfish will help out.I have the austrian "hofer" equivalent, which is a pure data prepaid.
It seems to work slightly differently in germany, where it's an addition to a prepaid voice sim.
I'd acctually prefer the german style, but oh well.I'd recommend combining it with a S60(or Maemo) Joikuspot compatible handset, that way you can use the voice part as well.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_12_0256211.31450202</id>
	<title>I recommend O2 prepaid</title>
	<author>argeo</author>
	<datestamp>1268399400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi there!
I have made some good experiences using the O2-prepaid stick. The UMTS-USB stick goes over the counter for as little as 20 , and you can choose (on a daily/monthly basis) between three types:
- charge by the minute - the least desirable one (charges 0,09 per minute)
- day flat for 3.50  - the hook is that the day ends at 23:59
- a monthly flat for 25  - which is what I use.

That's my recommendation.
Enjoy your trip here!
George</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi there !
I have made some good experiences using the O2-prepaid stick .
The UMTS-USB stick goes over the counter for as little as 20 , and you can choose ( on a daily/monthly basis ) between three types : - charge by the minute - the least desirable one ( charges 0,09 per minute ) - day flat for 3.50 - the hook is that the day ends at 23 : 59 - a monthly flat for 25 - which is what I use .
That 's my recommendation .
Enjoy your trip here !
George</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi there!
I have made some good experiences using the O2-prepaid stick.
The UMTS-USB stick goes over the counter for as little as 20 , and you can choose (on a daily/monthly basis) between three types:
- charge by the minute - the least desirable one (charges 0,09 per minute)
- day flat for 3.50  - the hook is that the day ends at 23:59
- a monthly flat for 25  - which is what I use.
That's my recommendation.
Enjoy your trip here!
George</sentencetext>
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