<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_11_228247</id>
	<title>Researchers Beam 230Mb/sec Wireless Internet WIth LEDs</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1268303880000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>MikeChino writes <i>"A group of scientists from Germany's Fraunhofer Institute have devised a way to encode a <a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/03/11/scientists-find-way-to-turn-led-lights-into-wireless-internet-source/">visible-frequency wireless signal</a> in light emitted by plain old desklamps and other light fixtures. The team was able to achieve a record-setting  data download rate of 230 megabits per second, and they expect to be able to double that speed in the near future. While the regular radio-frequency Wi-Fi most of us use currently is perfectly fine, it does have its flaws &mdash; it has a limited bandwidth that confines it to a certain spectrum and if you've ever had someone leech off of your connection, you know that it also leaks through walls. LED wireless signals would theoretically have none of these downsides."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>MikeChino writes " A group of scientists from Germany 's Fraunhofer Institute have devised a way to encode a visible-frequency wireless signal in light emitted by plain old desklamps and other light fixtures .
The team was able to achieve a record-setting data download rate of 230 megabits per second , and they expect to be able to double that speed in the near future .
While the regular radio-frequency Wi-Fi most of us use currently is perfectly fine , it does have its flaws    it has a limited bandwidth that confines it to a certain spectrum and if you 've ever had someone leech off of your connection , you know that it also leaks through walls .
LED wireless signals would theoretically have none of these downsides .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MikeChino writes "A group of scientists from Germany's Fraunhofer Institute have devised a way to encode a visible-frequency wireless signal in light emitted by plain old desklamps and other light fixtures.
The team was able to achieve a record-setting  data download rate of 230 megabits per second, and they expect to be able to double that speed in the near future.
While the regular radio-frequency Wi-Fi most of us use currently is perfectly fine, it does have its flaws — it has a limited bandwidth that confines it to a certain spectrum and if you've ever had someone leech off of your connection, you know that it also leaks through walls.
LED wireless signals would theoretically have none of these downsides.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31452888</id>
	<title>Re:1975 here we come...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268415480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember using a piece of glass that reflected infrared wavelengths to do communications around a corner using the same LED's for a high school science class circa 1980. I think everyone was doing it back then. I was only transmitting tones though. It died for a reason.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember using a piece of glass that reflected infrared wavelengths to do communications around a corner using the same LED 's for a high school science class circa 1980 .
I think everyone was doing it back then .
I was only transmitting tones though .
It died for a reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember using a piece of glass that reflected infrared wavelengths to do communications around a corner using the same LED's for a high school science class circa 1980.
I think everyone was doing it back then.
I was only transmitting tones though.
It died for a reason.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31450906</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1268405220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think it's damned stingy to not share your wifi, unless it's affecting your own speeds. If it is you can disconnect or throttle a guest user.</p><p>There's a signal at my house from a computer named "hack me and I'll find you", which makes it damned hard NOT to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think it 's damned stingy to not share your wifi , unless it 's affecting your own speeds .
If it is you can disconnect or throttle a guest user.There 's a signal at my house from a computer named " hack me and I 'll find you " , which makes it damned hard NOT to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think it's damned stingy to not share your wifi, unless it's affecting your own speeds.
If it is you can disconnect or throttle a guest user.There's a signal at my house from a computer named "hack me and I'll find you", which makes it damned hard NOT to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448664</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>drkim</author>
	<datestamp>1268329080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A neon or florescent desk light might also work.
<br>
I believe that at one time secret spy messages were transmitted via a neon sign. (Can't remember context.)</htmltext>
<tokenext>A neon or florescent desk light might also work .
I believe that at one time secret spy messages were transmitted via a neon sign .
( Ca n't remember context .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A neon or florescent desk light might also work.
I believe that at one time secret spy messages were transmitted via a neon sign.
(Can't remember context.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445880</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either or side-by-sides</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268308200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No way<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... is that too early for April Fools ???</p><p>I can Haz Beam-of-Light Interwebs ???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No way ... is that too early for April Fools ? ?
? I can Haz Beam-of-Light Interwebs ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No way ... is that too early for April Fools ??
?I can Haz Beam-of-Light Interwebs ??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445984</id>
	<title>Re:Great!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268308620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It goes well with the porn! This is red light, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It goes well with the porn !
This is red light , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It goes well with the porn!
This is red light, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448136</id>
	<title>Shark Network!</title>
	<author>tjstork</author>
	<datestamp>1268322420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now my laser sharks can be networked as well, for total precision!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now my laser sharks can be networked as well , for total precision !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now my laser sharks can be networked as well, for total precision!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447390</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1268316060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
That's what repeaters/bridges are for.
You just need to convert the LED wireless to another technology,
or extend the signal using repeaters.
</p><p>
An example of a repeater apparatus would be: you punch a hole in two opposite sides of a wall.   Mount and power two appliances on the wall on each side.
</p><p>
When the appliance receives a signal, it repeats it into the wall.
</p><p>
Its neighbor appliance which just needs to receive the LED light repeated into the wall,  receives that, and repeats it into the room it is mounted in.
</p><p>
Come to think of it... if you punch a hole in the ceiling instead, and mount the appliance up there,  so it projects LED light into the attic,  it  may be able to receive the LED light projections from all the other  'repeaters'  that were mounted to the ceiling.
</p><p>
For instance, by capturing reflections off of common structure in the crawlspace,
where all the LEDs throughout the building can project to  (without wall separation)
</p><p>
Also, it can look as innocuous as a smoke detector, or simply be built into the light fixture somehow.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what repeaters/bridges are for .
You just need to convert the LED wireless to another technology , or extend the signal using repeaters .
An example of a repeater apparatus would be : you punch a hole in two opposite sides of a wall .
Mount and power two appliances on the wall on each side .
When the appliance receives a signal , it repeats it into the wall .
Its neighbor appliance which just needs to receive the LED light repeated into the wall , receives that , and repeats it into the room it is mounted in .
Come to think of it... if you punch a hole in the ceiling instead , and mount the appliance up there , so it projects LED light into the attic , it may be able to receive the LED light projections from all the other 'repeaters ' that were mounted to the ceiling .
For instance , by capturing reflections off of common structure in the crawlspace , where all the LEDs throughout the building can project to ( without wall separation ) Also , it can look as innocuous as a smoke detector , or simply be built into the light fixture somehow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
That's what repeaters/bridges are for.
You just need to convert the LED wireless to another technology,
or extend the signal using repeaters.
An example of a repeater apparatus would be: you punch a hole in two opposite sides of a wall.
Mount and power two appliances on the wall on each side.
When the appliance receives a signal, it repeats it into the wall.
Its neighbor appliance which just needs to receive the LED light repeated into the wall,  receives that, and repeats it into the room it is mounted in.
Come to think of it... if you punch a hole in the ceiling instead, and mount the appliance up there,  so it projects LED light into the attic,  it  may be able to receive the LED light projections from all the other  'repeaters'  that were mounted to the ceiling.
For instance, by capturing reflections off of common structure in the crawlspace,
where all the LEDs throughout the building can project to  (without wall separation)

Also, it can look as innocuous as a smoke detector, or simply be built into the light fixture somehow.
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447604</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>guyminuslife</author>
	<datestamp>1268317860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what about interference from the LEDs on your monitor?</p><p>I mean sure, I guess this would be great for the people who can use a Braille interface...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what about interference from the LEDs on your monitor ? I mean sure , I guess this would be great for the people who can use a Braille interface.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what about interference from the LEDs on your monitor?I mean sure, I guess this would be great for the people who can use a Braille interface...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445832</id>
	<title>Great!</title>
	<author>TrippTDF</author>
	<datestamp>1268308020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So now I'll have a strobe light effect every time I check my email!</htmltext>
<tokenext>So now I 'll have a strobe light effect every time I check my email !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now I'll have a strobe light effect every time I check my email!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448248</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>TheLink</author>
	<datestamp>1268323560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wonder how well it does against pranksters<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wonder how well it does against pranksters : ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wonder how well it does against pranksters :).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445978</id>
	<title>You won't notice it</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1268308560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So now I'll have a strobe light effect every time I check my email!</p></div><p>As long as the modulation they use on the LEDs is DC-free, your eyes won't pick up this strobing. A traditional light bulb flickers at 100 or 120 Hz, and you probably don't notice it. So you definitely won't notice flicker that's a million times faster.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So now I 'll have a strobe light effect every time I check my email ! As long as the modulation they use on the LEDs is DC-free , your eyes wo n't pick up this strobing .
A traditional light bulb flickers at 100 or 120 Hz , and you probably do n't notice it .
So you definitely wo n't notice flicker that 's a million times faster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So now I'll have a strobe light effect every time I check my email!As long as the modulation they use on the LEDs is DC-free, your eyes won't pick up this strobing.
A traditional light bulb flickers at 100 or 120 Hz, and you probably don't notice it.
So you definitely won't notice flicker that's a million times faster.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31450062</id>
	<title>Re:Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268398140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure... I mean, no way anybody at Fraunhofer would have thought of that, so we can completely rule out that they have a reason to develop this technology that goes beyond your objection...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure... I mean , no way anybody at Fraunhofer would have thought of that , so we can completely rule out that they have a reason to develop this technology that goes beyond your objection.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure... I mean, no way anybody at Fraunhofer would have thought of that, so we can completely rule out that they have a reason to develop this technology that goes beyond your objection...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446176</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268309280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this? kinda like internet over power lines?</htmltext>
<tokenext>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this ?
kinda like internet over power lines ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this?
kinda like internet over power lines?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445930</id>
	<title>Transparent walls</title>
	<author>lcampagn</author>
	<datestamp>1268308440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>LEDs don't transmit through walls unless they happen to be transparent, like, say, a WINDOW. And while your GHz-based wireless signal drops off just down the block, the signals leaking through your window can be picked up from miles away with a telescope. Didn't we learn this from the modem-blinkenlights exploit like 10 years ago? I suppose most of us have also learned how to use encryption in the interim..</htmltext>
<tokenext>LEDs do n't transmit through walls unless they happen to be transparent , like , say , a WINDOW .
And while your GHz-based wireless signal drops off just down the block , the signals leaking through your window can be picked up from miles away with a telescope .
Did n't we learn this from the modem-blinkenlights exploit like 10 years ago ?
I suppose most of us have also learned how to use encryption in the interim. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LEDs don't transmit through walls unless they happen to be transparent, like, say, a WINDOW.
And while your GHz-based wireless signal drops off just down the block, the signals leaking through your window can be picked up from miles away with a telescope.
Didn't we learn this from the modem-blinkenlights exploit like 10 years ago?
I suppose most of us have also learned how to use encryption in the interim..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447800</id>
	<title>Re:Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>MattskEE</author>
	<datestamp>1268319600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure if this was part of their reasoning, but it could be that there is more noise in the infrared region.  There is quite a bit in visible as well to be sure, but just somebody walking around is emitting some infrared.  Indoors if you control the lights you might control most of the visible spectrum.</p><p>There might also be issues scaling up the transmit power for high signal to noise ratios in the low bandgap materials needed for IR LEDs.  Quite a bit of effort has already gone into scaling up power levels for high bandgap materials for lighting applications.  Material issues also may limit the modulation speed of IR LEDs.</p><p>Of course it could just be that a research group is just trying to capitalize on existing LED developments to get more research funding in spite of it being a suboptimal solution.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure if this was part of their reasoning , but it could be that there is more noise in the infrared region .
There is quite a bit in visible as well to be sure , but just somebody walking around is emitting some infrared .
Indoors if you control the lights you might control most of the visible spectrum.There might also be issues scaling up the transmit power for high signal to noise ratios in the low bandgap materials needed for IR LEDs .
Quite a bit of effort has already gone into scaling up power levels for high bandgap materials for lighting applications .
Material issues also may limit the modulation speed of IR LEDs.Of course it could just be that a research group is just trying to capitalize on existing LED developments to get more research funding in spite of it being a suboptimal solution .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure if this was part of their reasoning, but it could be that there is more noise in the infrared region.
There is quite a bit in visible as well to be sure, but just somebody walking around is emitting some infrared.
Indoors if you control the lights you might control most of the visible spectrum.There might also be issues scaling up the transmit power for high signal to noise ratios in the low bandgap materials needed for IR LEDs.
Quite a bit of effort has already gone into scaling up power levels for high bandgap materials for lighting applications.
Material issues also may limit the modulation speed of IR LEDs.Of course it could just be that a research group is just trying to capitalize on existing LED developments to get more research funding in spite of it being a suboptimal solution.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446242</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268309580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah I like how being able to go through walls is listed as a downside.  Though I guess if leeches are your biggest concern, it is an improvement.  They'd still exist, but you'd be a lot more likely to notice the guy sitting outside your window with a laptop than if he was in his own home.</p><p>I remember in college making a radio and a wireless speaker system on the same breadboard, using an LED to transmit the audio from the radio to the amplifier.  It was a pretty cool thing to do in a lab, but it didn't occur to me to rush home and duplicate this amazing feat on my home stereo.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah I like how being able to go through walls is listed as a downside .
Though I guess if leeches are your biggest concern , it is an improvement .
They 'd still exist , but you 'd be a lot more likely to notice the guy sitting outside your window with a laptop than if he was in his own home.I remember in college making a radio and a wireless speaker system on the same breadboard , using an LED to transmit the audio from the radio to the amplifier .
It was a pretty cool thing to do in a lab , but it did n't occur to me to rush home and duplicate this amazing feat on my home stereo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah I like how being able to go through walls is listed as a downside.
Though I guess if leeches are your biggest concern, it is an improvement.
They'd still exist, but you'd be a lot more likely to notice the guy sitting outside your window with a laptop than if he was in his own home.I remember in college making a radio and a wireless speaker system on the same breadboard, using an LED to transmit the audio from the radio to the amplifier.
It was a pretty cool thing to do in a lab, but it didn't occur to me to rush home and duplicate this amazing feat on my home stereo.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445762</id>
	<title>Just different ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268307780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>LED wireless signals would theoretically have none of these downsides.</p></div><p>Nope, instead it'll have a whole range of different ones, such as requiring line of site.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>LED wireless signals would theoretically have none of these downsides.Nope , instead it 'll have a whole range of different ones , such as requiring line of site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LED wireless signals would theoretically have none of these downsides.Nope, instead it'll have a whole range of different ones, such as requiring line of site.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446288</id>
	<title>Re:You won't notice it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268309820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But I bet my cat will.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But I bet my cat will .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I bet my cat will.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447962</id>
	<title>Re:Blast from the past</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1268320920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Except now it's  new and improved  UvDA  and   VLDA .
ultra-violet and visible light data association<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except now it 's new and improved UvDA and VLDA .
ultra-violet and visible light data association : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Except now it's  new and improved  UvDA  and   VLDA .
ultra-violet and visible light data association :)
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447040</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>sexconker</author>
	<datestamp>1268313900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why wire your house, just put mirrors everywhere.</p></div><p>Just make sure to use an even number of mirrors.<br>Using an odd number of mirrors will flip your bits and should only be used when pairing two computers together.</p><p>Eventually most ports will automatically handle both setups, but Dell will inexplicably ship systems that don't for decades to come.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why wire your house , just put mirrors everywhere.Just make sure to use an even number of mirrors.Using an odd number of mirrors will flip your bits and should only be used when pairing two computers together.Eventually most ports will automatically handle both setups , but Dell will inexplicably ship systems that do n't for decades to come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why wire your house, just put mirrors everywhere.Just make sure to use an even number of mirrors.Using an odd number of mirrors will flip your bits and should only be used when pairing two computers together.Eventually most ports will automatically handle both setups, but Dell will inexplicably ship systems that don't for decades to come.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31450918</id>
	<title>What about upload?</title>
	<author>beschra</author>
	<datestamp>1268405400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>TFA only mentions download rates. Where's the other half of the communication equation?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>TFA only mentions download rates .
Where 's the other half of the communication equation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>TFA only mentions download rates.
Where's the other half of the communication equation?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447976</id>
	<title>Re:You won't notice it</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1268320980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Ok... you won't notice it.. but what will your  video Camera do?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
</p><p>
They commonly detect refresh flicker from computer monitors.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok... you wo n't notice it.. but what will your video Camera do ?
: ) They commonly detect refresh flicker from computer monitors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Ok... you won't notice it.. but what will your  video Camera do?
:)

They commonly detect refresh flicker from computer monitors.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31451448</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1268408460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From a retailer's point of view, the object is not a cost-basis rationalization.  More likely, this introduces the opportunity to introduce demand-based pricing, in other words more opportunities to update pricing.</p><p>Prices can be lowered on rainy days when sales are slower, enticing people to buy things because they are cheaper.  Except for weather-related supplies, those automatically increase when the humidistat registers 80\% humidity outside.</p><p>You can regulate the post-holiday sales signs and keep marked items clearly marked, while optimizing profit by lowering prices when sales fall.  No need to red-sticker things with 50\%, 75\%, 80\%, 90\% off stickers and finally throw it away because it's covered in sticky.</p><p>When the weather man predicts snow and everyone runs out for milk, bread, and toilet paper, the registers can alert the manager of a spike in sales, and decide whether to announce low prices or price gouge.</p><p>It's a whole new world of free-market capitalism.  Add on some random microphones and voice recognition, coupled with gmail-style keyword based advertising, and you can raise prices on things people mention from their shopping list - until they say "costs to much" or "too high" then it drops back to regular price.</p><p>That's the problem with people like you - always applying things to "now" instead of thinking about new ways to gouge your fellow humans for fun and profit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From a retailer 's point of view , the object is not a cost-basis rationalization .
More likely , this introduces the opportunity to introduce demand-based pricing , in other words more opportunities to update pricing.Prices can be lowered on rainy days when sales are slower , enticing people to buy things because they are cheaper .
Except for weather-related supplies , those automatically increase when the humidistat registers 80 \ % humidity outside.You can regulate the post-holiday sales signs and keep marked items clearly marked , while optimizing profit by lowering prices when sales fall .
No need to red-sticker things with 50 \ % , 75 \ % , 80 \ % , 90 \ % off stickers and finally throw it away because it 's covered in sticky.When the weather man predicts snow and everyone runs out for milk , bread , and toilet paper , the registers can alert the manager of a spike in sales , and decide whether to announce low prices or price gouge.It 's a whole new world of free-market capitalism .
Add on some random microphones and voice recognition , coupled with gmail-style keyword based advertising , and you can raise prices on things people mention from their shopping list - until they say " costs to much " or " too high " then it drops back to regular price.That 's the problem with people like you - always applying things to " now " instead of thinking about new ways to gouge your fellow humans for fun and profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From a retailer's point of view, the object is not a cost-basis rationalization.
More likely, this introduces the opportunity to introduce demand-based pricing, in other words more opportunities to update pricing.Prices can be lowered on rainy days when sales are slower, enticing people to buy things because they are cheaper.
Except for weather-related supplies, those automatically increase when the humidistat registers 80\% humidity outside.You can regulate the post-holiday sales signs and keep marked items clearly marked, while optimizing profit by lowering prices when sales fall.
No need to red-sticker things with 50\%, 75\%, 80\%, 90\% off stickers and finally throw it away because it's covered in sticky.When the weather man predicts snow and everyone runs out for milk, bread, and toilet paper, the registers can alert the manager of a spike in sales, and decide whether to announce low prices or price gouge.It's a whole new world of free-market capitalism.
Add on some random microphones and voice recognition, coupled with gmail-style keyword based advertising, and you can raise prices on things people mention from their shopping list - until they say "costs to much" or "too high" then it drops back to regular price.That's the problem with people like you - always applying things to "now" instead of thinking about new ways to gouge your fellow humans for fun and profit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446372</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268310360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this? kinda like internet over power lines?</p></div><p>Probably not.  The summary mentions "plain old desk lamps", but TFA is specific in stating the lamps must be LED, which is still not common.</p><p>Incandescent can't be modulated at the frequencies necessary for anything much beyond S O S signals.</p><p>Of course once all your house lighting is converted to LED, your network might work provided you modulated at least one lamp in every room.  This of course would leak out windows, which the Summary writer would be perfectly fine with, even tho he disparages leaking radio waves.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this ?
kinda like internet over power lines ? Probably not .
The summary mentions " plain old desk lamps " , but TFA is specific in stating the lamps must be LED , which is still not common.Incandescent ca n't be modulated at the frequencies necessary for anything much beyond S O S signals.Of course once all your house lighting is converted to LED , your network might work provided you modulated at least one lamp in every room .
This of course would leak out windows , which the Summary writer would be perfectly fine with , even tho he disparages leaking radio waves .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this?
kinda like internet over power lines?Probably not.
The summary mentions "plain old desk lamps", but TFA is specific in stating the lamps must be LED, which is still not common.Incandescent can't be modulated at the frequencies necessary for anything much beyond S O S signals.Of course once all your house lighting is converted to LED, your network might work provided you modulated at least one lamp in every room.
This of course would leak out windows, which the Summary writer would be perfectly fine with, even tho he disparages leaking radio waves.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446938</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268313300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why wire your house, just put mirrors everywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why wire your house , just put mirrors everywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why wire your house, just put mirrors everywhere.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445874</id>
	<title>Re:Don't look into the light!?!</title>
	<author>magarity</author>
	<datestamp>1268308140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't worry, the flicker rate is so fast not even Bobby Fischer would complain about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't worry , the flicker rate is so fast not even Bobby Fischer would complain about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't worry, the flicker rate is so fast not even Bobby Fischer would complain about it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446138</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Mr0bvious</author>
	<datestamp>1268309100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Huh? lack of wiring is not the only benefit of wireless.. How about being untethered to your network? That sounds like a pretty large benefit to me..</htmltext>
<tokenext>Huh ?
lack of wiring is not the only benefit of wireless.. How about being untethered to your network ?
That sounds like a pretty large benefit to me. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Huh?
lack of wiring is not the only benefit of wireless.. How about being untethered to your network?
That sounds like a pretty large benefit to me..</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31449636</id>
	<title>lights off</title>
	<author>amn108</author>
	<datestamp>1268390040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's be clear about one disadvantage of a LED network - you can't download AND sleep at the same time, because people like to sleep with the lights off.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's be clear about one disadvantage of a LED network - you ca n't download AND sleep at the same time , because people like to sleep with the lights off .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's be clear about one disadvantage of a LED network - you can't download AND sleep at the same time, because people like to sleep with the lights off.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447336</id>
	<title>Is it just me, or...</title>
	<author>russotto</author>
	<datestamp>1268315820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...does this seem like absolutely nothing groundbreaking at all.  OK, we can transmit information by pulsing LEDs.  People have been doing that for years.  The fact you don't put an optical fiber in front of it doesn't seem all that interesting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...does this seem like absolutely nothing groundbreaking at all .
OK , we can transmit information by pulsing LEDs .
People have been doing that for years .
The fact you do n't put an optical fiber in front of it does n't seem all that interesting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...does this seem like absolutely nothing groundbreaking at all.
OK, we can transmit information by pulsing LEDs.
People have been doing that for years.
The fact you don't put an optical fiber in front of it doesn't seem all that interesting.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31453064</id>
	<title>Is this new technology called...</title>
	<author>FiloEleven</author>
	<datestamp>1268416560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Blinkenlights?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Blinkenlights ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blinkenlights?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446928</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1268313240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this? kinda like internet over power lines?</p></div><p>Retailers already use this technology to change the display tags on shelves.  After hours, they send a series of codes to modulate the fluorescent lighting in such a way that it sends new data to smart shelf tags.  The shelf tags display a product name and a price.  Changing the prices on those shelf tags are a major operational cost of grocery retailers.</p><p>Fujitsu is one of the firms offering this.  Here's <a href="http://www.fujitsu.com/au/services/industries/retail/solutions/esl/" title="fujitsu.com">Fujitsu's system</a> [fujitsu.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this ?
kinda like internet over power lines ? Retailers already use this technology to change the display tags on shelves .
After hours , they send a series of codes to modulate the fluorescent lighting in such a way that it sends new data to smart shelf tags .
The shelf tags display a product name and a price .
Changing the prices on those shelf tags are a major operational cost of grocery retailers.Fujitsu is one of the firms offering this .
Here 's Fujitsu 's system [ fujitsu.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what if you could use the lighting that already exists in your house to do this?
kinda like internet over power lines?Retailers already use this technology to change the display tags on shelves.
After hours, they send a series of codes to modulate the fluorescent lighting in such a way that it sends new data to smart shelf tags.
The shelf tags display a product name and a price.
Changing the prices on those shelf tags are a major operational cost of grocery retailers.Fujitsu is one of the firms offering this.
Here's Fujitsu's system [fujitsu.com].
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445798</id>
	<title>Fraunhofer juggernaut</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268307960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunhofer\_Society" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunhofer\_Society</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>(anon, copied from wiki, I just thought people should be more aware that Fraunhofer is an amazingly huge beast.</p><blockquote><div><p>It employs over 12,500, mainly scientists  and engineers, with an annual research budget of about &euro;1.2 billion</p><p>The Fraunhofer Society currently operates 59 institutes. These are Fraunhofer Institutes for:</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Algorithms and Scientific Computing - SCAI<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Applied Information Technology - FIT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Applied Optics and Precision Engineering - IOF<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Applied Polymer Research - IAP<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Applied Solid State Physics - IAF<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Biomedical Engineering - IBMT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Building Physics - IBP<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Center for Molecular Biotechnology- CMB<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Ceramic Technologies and Systems - IKTS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Chemical Technology - ICT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Communication Systems - ESK<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Computer Architecture and Software Technology - FIRST<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Computer Graphics Research - IGD<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Digital Media Technology - IDMT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Electron and Plasma Technology - FEP<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * e-Government - Fraunhofer eGovernment Center<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Environmental, Safety and Energy Technology - UMSICHT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Experimental Software Engineering - IESE<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Factory Operation and Automation - IFF<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * High-Speed Dynamics, Ernst-Mach-Institut - EMI<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Industrial Engineering - IAO<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Industrial Mathematics - ITWM<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Information and Dataprocessing - IITB<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Information Center for Regional Planning and Building Construction - IRB<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Integrated Circuits - IIS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Integrated Systems and Device Technology - IISB<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Integrated Publication and Information Systems - IPSI<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Intelligent Analysis and Information Systems - IAIS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Interfacial Engineering and Biotechnology - IGB<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Laser Technology - ILT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Machine Tools and Forming Technology - IWU<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Manufacturing Engineering and Applied Materials Research - IFAM<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Manufacturing Engineering and Automation - IPA<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Material and Beam Technology - IWS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Material Flow and Logistics - IML<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Mechanics of Materials - IWM<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Medical Image Computing - MEVIS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Microelectronic Circuits and Systems - IMS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Molecular Biology and Applied Ecology - IME<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Telecommunications, Heinrich-Hertz-Institut - HHI<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Non-Destructive Testing - IZFP<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Open Communication Systems - FOKUS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Patent Center for German Research - PST<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Photonic Microsystems - IPMS<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Physical Measurement Techniques - IPM<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Process Engineering and Packaging - IVV<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Production Systems and Design Technology - IPK<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Production Technology - IPT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Reliability and Microintegration - IZM<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Secure Information Technology - SIT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Silicate Research - ISC<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Silicon Technology - ISIT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Software and Systems Technology - ISST<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Solar Energy Systems - ISE<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Structural Durability and System Reliability - LBF<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Systems and Innovation Research - ISI<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Technological Trend Analysis - INT<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Technology Development Group - TEG<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Surface Engineering and Thin Films - IST<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Toxicology and Experimental Medicine - ITEM<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Transport and Infrastructure Systems - IVI<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Wind Energy and Energy System Technology - IWES<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; * Wood Research, Wilhelm-Klauditz-Institut - WKI</p></div></blockquote></div>
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<tokenext>http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunhofer \ _Society [ wikipedia.org ] ( anon , copied from wiki , I just thought people should be more aware that Fraunhofer is an amazingly huge beast.It employs over 12,500 , mainly scientists and engineers , with an annual research budget of about    1.2 billionThe Fraunhofer Society currently operates 59 institutes .
These are Fraunhofer Institutes for :         * Algorithms and Scientific Computing - SCAI         * Applied Information Technology - FIT         * Applied Optics and Precision Engineering - IOF         * Applied Polymer Research - IAP         * Applied Solid State Physics - IAF         * Biomedical Engineering - IBMT         * Building Physics - IBP         * Center for Molecular Biotechnology- CMB         * Ceramic Technologies and Systems - IKTS         * Chemical Technology - ICT         * Communication Systems - ESK         * Computer Architecture and Software Technology - FIRST         * Computer Graphics Research - IGD         * Digital Media Technology - IDMT         * Electron and Plasma Technology - FEP         * e-Government - Fraunhofer eGovernment Center         * Environmental , Safety and Energy Technology - UMSICHT         * Experimental Software Engineering - IESE         * Factory Operation and Automation - IFF         * High-Speed Dynamics , Ernst-Mach-Institut - EMI         * Industrial Engineering - IAO         * Industrial Mathematics - ITWM         * Information and Dataprocessing - IITB         * Information Center for Regional Planning and Building Construction - IRB         * Integrated Circuits - IIS         * Integrated Systems and Device Technology - IISB         * Integrated Publication and Information Systems - IPSI         * Intelligent Analysis and Information Systems - IAIS         * Interfacial Engineering and Biotechnology - IGB         * Laser Technology - ILT         * Machine Tools and Forming Technology - IWU         * Manufacturing Engineering and Applied Materials Research - IFAM         * Manufacturing Engineering and Automation - IPA         * Material and Beam Technology - IWS         * Material Flow and Logistics - IML         * Mechanics of Materials - IWM         * Medical Image Computing - MEVIS         * Microelectronic Circuits and Systems - IMS         * Molecular Biology and Applied Ecology - IME         * Telecommunications , Heinrich-Hertz-Institut - HHI         * Non-Destructive Testing - IZFP         * Open Communication Systems - FOKUS         * Patent Center for German Research - PST         * Photonic Microsystems - IPMS         * Physical Measurement Techniques - IPM         * Process Engineering and Packaging - IVV         * Production Systems and Design Technology - IPK         * Production Technology - IPT         * Reliability and Microintegration - IZM         * Secure Information Technology - SIT         * Silicate Research - ISC         * Silicon Technology - ISIT         * Software and Systems Technology - ISST         * Solar Energy Systems - ISE         * Structural Durability and System Reliability - LBF         * Systems and Innovation Research - ISI         * Technological Trend Analysis - INT         * Technology Development Group - TEG         * Surface Engineering and Thin Films - IST         * Toxicology and Experimental Medicine - ITEM         * Transport and Infrastructure Systems - IVI         * Wind Energy and Energy System Technology - IWES         * Wood Research , Wilhelm-Klauditz-Institut - WKI</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraunhofer\_Society [wikipedia.org](anon, copied from wiki, I just thought people should be more aware that Fraunhofer is an amazingly huge beast.It employs over 12,500, mainly scientists  and engineers, with an annual research budget of about €1.2 billionThe Fraunhofer Society currently operates 59 institutes.
These are Fraunhofer Institutes for:
        * Algorithms and Scientific Computing - SCAI
        * Applied Information Technology - FIT
        * Applied Optics and Precision Engineering - IOF
        * Applied Polymer Research - IAP
        * Applied Solid State Physics - IAF
        * Biomedical Engineering - IBMT
        * Building Physics - IBP
        * Center for Molecular Biotechnology- CMB
        * Ceramic Technologies and Systems - IKTS
        * Chemical Technology - ICT
        * Communication Systems - ESK
        * Computer Architecture and Software Technology - FIRST
        * Computer Graphics Research - IGD
        * Digital Media Technology - IDMT
        * Electron and Plasma Technology - FEP
        * e-Government - Fraunhofer eGovernment Center
        * Environmental, Safety and Energy Technology - UMSICHT
        * Experimental Software Engineering - IESE
        * Factory Operation and Automation - IFF
        * High-Speed Dynamics, Ernst-Mach-Institut - EMI
        * Industrial Engineering - IAO
        * Industrial Mathematics - ITWM
        * Information and Dataprocessing - IITB
        * Information Center for Regional Planning and Building Construction - IRB
        * Integrated Circuits - IIS
        * Integrated Systems and Device Technology - IISB
        * Integrated Publication and Information Systems - IPSI
        * Intelligent Analysis and Information Systems - IAIS
        * Interfacial Engineering and Biotechnology - IGB
        * Laser Technology - ILT
        * Machine Tools and Forming Technology - IWU
        * Manufacturing Engineering and Applied Materials Research - IFAM
        * Manufacturing Engineering and Automation - IPA
        * Material and Beam Technology - IWS
        * Material Flow and Logistics - IML
        * Mechanics of Materials - IWM
        * Medical Image Computing - MEVIS
        * Microelectronic Circuits and Systems - IMS
        * Molecular Biology and Applied Ecology - IME
        * Telecommunications, Heinrich-Hertz-Institut - HHI
        * Non-Destructive Testing - IZFP
        * Open Communication Systems - FOKUS
        * Patent Center for German Research - PST
        * Photonic Microsystems - IPMS
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446730</id>
	<title>Re:Oh Great</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1268312160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Now everything I own, from my Star Wars light saber to my Krusty the Klown glow-in-the-dark alarm clock, could potentially with wireless signal. Oy carumba</p></div>
</blockquote><p>That's actually been a documented problem in some devices with status LEDs, which <a href="http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-854946.html" title="cnet.com">inadvertently leaked information</a> [cnet.com] due to being tied directly to the (serial) data line, rather than a low-pass filtered version of it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now everything I own , from my Star Wars light saber to my Krusty the Klown glow-in-the-dark alarm clock , could potentially with wireless signal .
Oy carumba That 's actually been a documented problem in some devices with status LEDs , which inadvertently leaked information [ cnet.com ] due to being tied directly to the ( serial ) data line , rather than a low-pass filtered version of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now everything I own, from my Star Wars light saber to my Krusty the Klown glow-in-the-dark alarm clock, could potentially with wireless signal.
Oy carumba
That's actually been a documented problem in some devices with status LEDs, which inadvertently leaked information [cnet.com] due to being tied directly to the (serial) data line, rather than a low-pass filtered version of it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445766</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445774</id>
	<title>Blast from the past</title>
	<author>jpmorgan</author>
	<datestamp>1268307840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the return of IrDA!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the return of IrDA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the return of IrDA!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31451782</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>b4dc0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1268410140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Mr. Wizard's World episode where they connected I think a record player's needle to a flashlight, and directed it at the portion of a home movie projector that reads the audio track and played the record back was pretty cool.  That was probably in the earlier range between 1983 and 1990.</p><p>It did occur to me to rush home and duplicate this, but I was already home, and I was also maybe 10 years old, so nothing much came of it.  Seems we keep rediscovering the same old thing, but being able to stand on others' shoulders makes it progressively easier to see practical application each time.  So three cheers for limited patent lifetimes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Mr. Wizard 's World episode where they connected I think a record player 's needle to a flashlight , and directed it at the portion of a home movie projector that reads the audio track and played the record back was pretty cool .
That was probably in the earlier range between 1983 and 1990.It did occur to me to rush home and duplicate this , but I was already home , and I was also maybe 10 years old , so nothing much came of it .
Seems we keep rediscovering the same old thing , but being able to stand on others ' shoulders makes it progressively easier to see practical application each time .
So three cheers for limited patent lifetimes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Mr. Wizard's World episode where they connected I think a record player's needle to a flashlight, and directed it at the portion of a home movie projector that reads the audio track and played the record back was pretty cool.
That was probably in the earlier range between 1983 and 1990.It did occur to me to rush home and duplicate this, but I was already home, and I was also maybe 10 years old, so nothing much came of it.
Seems we keep rediscovering the same old thing, but being able to stand on others' shoulders makes it progressively easier to see practical application each time.
So three cheers for limited patent lifetimes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446242</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31450678</id>
	<title>Wireless?</title>
	<author>The Creator</author>
	<datestamp>1268403720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Shouldn't they call it fiberless?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should n't they call it fiberless ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Shouldn't they call it fiberless?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31451624</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>virg\_mattes</author>
	<datestamp>1268409360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Point one, line of <b>sight</b>.  Second, line of sight issues can be addressed by multiple "heads" that can cover a room.  Like a cell tower, you'd communicate with the head that can see your LED best, and if you move out of sight your system would locate and lock on to another head.  If you position them correctly, you can cover anywhere in a room this way.<br>
<br>
Virg</htmltext>
<tokenext>Point one , line of sight .
Second , line of sight issues can be addressed by multiple " heads " that can cover a room .
Like a cell tower , you 'd communicate with the head that can see your LED best , and if you move out of sight your system would locate and lock on to another head .
If you position them correctly , you can cover anywhere in a room this way .
Virg</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Point one, line of sight.
Second, line of sight issues can be addressed by multiple "heads" that can cover a room.
Like a cell tower, you'd communicate with the head that can see your LED best, and if you move out of sight your system would locate and lock on to another head.
If you position them correctly, you can cover anywhere in a room this way.
Virg</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447250</id>
	<title>Re:Oh Great</title>
	<author>jgreco</author>
	<datestamp>1268315280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I keep having this vision of Cmdr. Data on that episode of TNG where he suddenly appears on the bridge with a rapidly flashing palm light.  Maybe this will not only do our networking, maybe it'll be able to fix brainwashing too.  (And if it can fix it, betcha someone can hack it to DO the brainwashing too...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I keep having this vision of Cmdr .
Data on that episode of TNG where he suddenly appears on the bridge with a rapidly flashing palm light .
Maybe this will not only do our networking , maybe it 'll be able to fix brainwashing too .
( And if it can fix it , betcha someone can hack it to DO the brainwashing too... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I keep having this vision of Cmdr.
Data on that episode of TNG where he suddenly appears on the bridge with a rapidly flashing palm light.
Maybe this will not only do our networking, maybe it'll be able to fix brainwashing too.
(And if it can fix it, betcha someone can hack it to DO the brainwashing too...)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445766</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446006</id>
	<title>What I want to know is:</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268308680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>What happens if you cross the beams?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What happens if you cross the beams ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happens if you cross the beams?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447460</id>
	<title>Digital video</title>
	<author>BillX</author>
	<datestamp>1268316600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I assume the 230Mb/s is for stuff like delivering digital video to your TV without plugging cables.</p><p>"Wow, this movie looks even better in digital!"</p><p>"Here, let me turn the lights out so we can wa...oh."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I assume the 230Mb/s is for stuff like delivering digital video to your TV without plugging cables .
" Wow , this movie looks even better in digital !
" " Here , let me turn the lights out so we can wa...oh .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I assume the 230Mb/s is for stuff like delivering digital video to your TV without plugging cables.
"Wow, this movie looks even better in digital!
""Here, let me turn the lights out so we can wa...oh.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445806</id>
	<title>download is fine but how about uploads?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268307960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>appears quite unidirectional to me</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>appears quite unidirectional to me</tokentext>
<sentencetext>appears quite unidirectional to me</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448394</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268325540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's not forget that basements do not have windows.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Well, not where I'm from!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's not forget that basements do not have windows .
...Well , not where I 'm from !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's not forget that basements do not have windows.
...Well, not where I'm from!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446372</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447866</id>
	<title>Desk lamps, OK, that's one way</title>
	<author>HuguesT</author>
	<datestamp>1268320140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now how do we communicate the other way ? Like from the laptop back to the router ? How do I twiddle the house lights from there. Inquiring minds want to know.</p><p>BTW what kind of light sensor did they use ? Cheap hopefully.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now how do we communicate the other way ?
Like from the laptop back to the router ?
How do I twiddle the house lights from there .
Inquiring minds want to know.BTW what kind of light sensor did they use ?
Cheap hopefully .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now how do we communicate the other way ?
Like from the laptop back to the router ?
How do I twiddle the house lights from there.
Inquiring minds want to know.BTW what kind of light sensor did they use ?
Cheap hopefully.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447492</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1268316900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except for the receiver. Unless you plan on making you whole laptop flicker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except for the receiver .
Unless you plan on making you whole laptop flicker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except for the receiver.
Unless you plan on making you whole laptop flicker.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446514</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446962</id>
	<title>Re:Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>project-nova</author>
	<datestamp>1268313420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Visible-frequency wireless works by flickering all the lights in a room ever so slightly -- so slightly, in fact, that the human eye could never detect it.</p></div><p>The idea is to re-use your existing LED room lights to also transmit a data signal, *not* some completely new tech!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Visible-frequency wireless works by flickering all the lights in a room ever so slightly -- so slightly , in fact , that the human eye could never detect it.The idea is to re-use your existing LED room lights to also transmit a data signal , * not * some completely new tech !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Visible-frequency wireless works by flickering all the lights in a room ever so slightly -- so slightly, in fact, that the human eye could never detect it.The idea is to re-use your existing LED room lights to also transmit a data signal, *not* some completely new tech!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31449050</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Noodlenoggin</author>
	<datestamp>1268336880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why wire your house, just put mirrors everywhere.</p></div><p>I tried that already, however my wife made me remove the one from above he bed.  Now I get use my interlazorwebs without actually getting up in the morning.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:(</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why wire your house , just put mirrors everywhere.I tried that already , however my wife made me remove the one from above he bed .
Now I get use my interlazorwebs without actually getting up in the morning .
: (</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why wire your house, just put mirrors everywhere.I tried that already, however my wife made me remove the one from above he bed.
Now I get use my interlazorwebs without actually getting up in the morning.
:(
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446938</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447798</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268319600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
They could pick a light frequency and intensity that is attentuated by the window glass,  to make it hard/impossible for someone to use a window for that.
</p><p>
Or in the case of a business, they could use a security film targeted at the wireless frequency range.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They could pick a light frequency and intensity that is attentuated by the window glass , to make it hard/impossible for someone to use a window for that .
Or in the case of a business , they could use a security film targeted at the wireless frequency range .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
They could pick a light frequency and intensity that is attentuated by the window glass,  to make it hard/impossible for someone to use a window for that.
Or in the case of a business, they could use a security film targeted at the wireless frequency range.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446242</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447260</id>
	<title>but wait..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268315400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm waiting for this to be implemented in the common household and watch the number of seizures go up from all the blinking lights around the house.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm waiting for this to be implemented in the common household and watch the number of seizures go up from all the blinking lights around the house .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm waiting for this to be implemented in the common household and watch the number of seizures go up from all the blinking lights around the house.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445992</id>
	<title>Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>loose electron</author>
	<datestamp>1268308620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you really want to use optical communocation you might as well go infrared so you don't need to see it, similar to your TV remote.</p><p>Then you have all the problems (visible light or infrared) of orientation, line of sight and similar.</p><p>Hopefully the creator of this gadget has not quit their day job.</p><p>utterly stupid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you really want to use optical communocation you might as well go infrared so you do n't need to see it , similar to your TV remote.Then you have all the problems ( visible light or infrared ) of orientation , line of sight and similar.Hopefully the creator of this gadget has not quit their day job.utterly stupid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you really want to use optical communocation you might as well go infrared so you don't need to see it, similar to your TV remote.Then you have all the problems (visible light or infrared) of orientation, line of sight and similar.Hopefully the creator of this gadget has not quit their day job.utterly stupid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447262</id>
	<title>Maybe it's useful in homes?</title>
	<author>twoDigitIq</author>
	<datestamp>1268315400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If you could get the same throughput in your home power circuit, and plug cheap LED devices into wall outlets in every room then you might be able to implement this as a wireless option in homes. Or you might give yourself (and your dog) seizures.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you could get the same throughput in your home power circuit , and plug cheap LED devices into wall outlets in every room then you might be able to implement this as a wireless option in homes .
Or you might give yourself ( and your dog ) seizures .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you could get the same throughput in your home power circuit, and plug cheap LED devices into wall outlets in every room then you might be able to implement this as a wireless option in homes.
Or you might give yourself (and your dog) seizures.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31450286</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Neoprofin</author>
	<datestamp>1268400360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's neat, but unless the prices change constantly I can't imagine how rolling out this system and keeping it running is more cost effective than printing out and replacing paper labels that cost less than a penny each and only need to be updated every few weeks.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's neat , but unless the prices change constantly I ca n't imagine how rolling out this system and keeping it running is more cost effective than printing out and replacing paper labels that cost less than a penny each and only need to be updated every few weeks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's neat, but unless the prices change constantly I can't imagine how rolling out this system and keeping it running is more cost effective than printing out and replacing paper labels that cost less than a penny each and only need to be updated every few weeks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446928</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448144</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1268322420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My dad used to tell me not to stand in his light when he was reading or working on something. Someday my kid will be yelling at his kid to stop blocking his Internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My dad used to tell me not to stand in his light when he was reading or working on something .
Someday my kid will be yelling at his kid to stop blocking his Internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dad used to tell me not to stand in his light when he was reading or working on something.
Someday my kid will be yelling at his kid to stop blocking his Internet.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445762</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445894</id>
	<title>One small problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268308260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Any epileptic within a one mile radius is turned into a flesh-eating zombie.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Any epileptic within a one mile radius is turned into a flesh-eating zombie .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Any epileptic within a one mile radius is turned into a flesh-eating zombie.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446994</id>
	<title>Re:Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268313600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you are pumping 10 Watts into a device, there is the 'green' argument for using that energy for more than just data transmission.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you are pumping 10 Watts into a device , there is the 'green ' argument for using that energy for more than just data transmission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you are pumping 10 Watts into a device, there is the 'green' argument for using that energy for more than just data transmission.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448646</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268328840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny thing is that 10+ years ago, there was a big bru-haha (sp?) about "Activity" LEDs on certain networking equipment. They blinked with every bit that came down the wire. With the right equipment, someone that has LoS of the LED could reconstruct the data stream fairly easily.</p><p>Once a bug, now a feature.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny thing is that 10 + years ago , there was a big bru-haha ( sp ?
) about " Activity " LEDs on certain networking equipment .
They blinked with every bit that came down the wire .
With the right equipment , someone that has LoS of the LED could reconstruct the data stream fairly easily.Once a bug , now a feature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny thing is that 10+ years ago, there was a big bru-haha (sp?
) about "Activity" LEDs on certain networking equipment.
They blinked with every bit that came down the wire.
With the right equipment, someone that has LoS of the LED could reconstruct the data stream fairly easily.Once a bug, now a feature.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446520</id>
	<title>Re:I RTFA</title>
	<author>c0lo</author>
	<datestamp>1268311020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I RTFA.  It says that they achieve the bandwidth by filtering out the blue light</p></div><p>Proud, huh? Then, I suggest you doing it again:</p><blockquote><div><p>Luckily, researchers were able to expand the bandwidth by leaps and bounds by <b>filtering out all <i>but</i> the blue light</b> (cool!).</p></div></blockquote><p>
Which makes sense, given that blue has a higher freq in the spectrum.<br>Otherwise it would be like: <i>now, filter out the green and increase the bandwidth</i> a.s.o.</p></div>
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<tokenext>I RTFA .
It says that they achieve the bandwidth by filtering out the blue lightProud , huh ?
Then , I suggest you doing it again : Luckily , researchers were able to expand the bandwidth by leaps and bounds by filtering out all but the blue light ( cool ! ) .
Which makes sense , given that blue has a higher freq in the spectrum.Otherwise it would be like : now , filter out the green and increase the bandwidth a.s.o .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I RTFA.
It says that they achieve the bandwidth by filtering out the blue lightProud, huh?
Then, I suggest you doing it again:Luckily, researchers were able to expand the bandwidth by leaps and bounds by filtering out all but the blue light (cool!).
Which makes sense, given that blue has a higher freq in the spectrum.Otherwise it would be like: now, filter out the green and increase the bandwidth a.s.o.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448592</id>
	<title>Re:I RTFA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268328240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The one questions is: how does your laptop equipped with this technology talk back?  Will your laptop have a multi-watt emitter on the top (read "bright white light") lighting up the room for the upstream traffic?</p></div><p>Maybe use the LED backlight in your laptop's screen?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The one questions is : how does your laptop equipped with this technology talk back ?
Will your laptop have a multi-watt emitter on the top ( read " bright white light " ) lighting up the room for the upstream traffic ? Maybe use the LED backlight in your laptop 's screen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The one questions is: how does your laptop equipped with this technology talk back?
Will your laptop have a multi-watt emitter on the top (read "bright white light") lighting up the room for the upstream traffic?Maybe use the LED backlight in your laptop's screen?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31449310</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>cgenman</author>
	<datestamp>1268384640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking of line-of-site, other than bandwidth what is the difference between networked LED signaling and a TV remote control?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking of line-of-site , other than bandwidth what is the difference between networked LED signaling and a TV remote control ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking of line-of-site, other than bandwidth what is the difference between networked LED signaling and a TV remote control?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31449786</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1268392320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>such as requiring line of site.</i></p><p>Holy crap. After spending years online, where people regularly talk about their "favourite websights" I thought the s-i-t-e spelling had become obsolete. Apparently, it has merely become interchangeable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>such as requiring line of site.Holy crap .
After spending years online , where people regularly talk about their " favourite websights " I thought the s-i-t-e spelling had become obsolete .
Apparently , it has merely become interchangeable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>such as requiring line of site.Holy crap.
After spending years online, where people regularly talk about their "favourite websights" I thought the s-i-t-e spelling had become obsolete.
Apparently, it has merely become interchangeable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448626</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>jellomizer</author>
	<datestamp>1268328720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oddly enough the concept <a href="http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/03/06/1221224" title="slashdot.org">Is about 8 years old</a> [slashdot.org] Granted back in them old days 10Mbs was still common, 100Mbs were still expensive to network and Gigabit networks were just starting to be put on some of the high end systems.   But the idea has been around and as a possible security risk.   I don't see this as a replacement for home networking but for site line of site it may be useful. but I would expect the technology real advantage would be in just hacking from analysising the lights on you 100mbs switch.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oddly enough the concept Is about 8 years old [ slashdot.org ] Granted back in them old days 10Mbs was still common , 100Mbs were still expensive to network and Gigabit networks were just starting to be put on some of the high end systems .
But the idea has been around and as a possible security risk .
I do n't see this as a replacement for home networking but for site line of site it may be useful .
but I would expect the technology real advantage would be in just hacking from analysising the lights on you 100mbs switch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oddly enough the concept Is about 8 years old [slashdot.org] Granted back in them old days 10Mbs was still common, 100Mbs were still expensive to network and Gigabit networks were just starting to be put on some of the high end systems.
But the idea has been around and as a possible security risk.
I don't see this as a replacement for home networking but for site line of site it may be useful.
but I would expect the technology real advantage would be in just hacking from analysising the lights on you 100mbs switch.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447112</id>
	<title>IrDA died for a good reason.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268314380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>In case they hadn't noticed, IrDA is dead for a good reason. The fact that the last two versions of it are much faster than Bluetooth (2.x) is irrelevant, it's too much of an inconvenience for most of its potential users in comparison to Bluetooth. It was great before Bluetooth came about and I used the latest versions of it with my old phone because it was much faster than Bluetooth, and I never had a problem with it for that purpose. Most potential users prefer the convenience of Bluetooth though, for obvious reasons. My new phone doesn't have IrDA, and hardly any new phones do, and as far as consumers go, that technology is all but dead. I can see LED networking going the same way.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In case they had n't noticed , IrDA is dead for a good reason .
The fact that the last two versions of it are much faster than Bluetooth ( 2.x ) is irrelevant , it 's too much of an inconvenience for most of its potential users in comparison to Bluetooth .
It was great before Bluetooth came about and I used the latest versions of it with my old phone because it was much faster than Bluetooth , and I never had a problem with it for that purpose .
Most potential users prefer the convenience of Bluetooth though , for obvious reasons .
My new phone does n't have IrDA , and hardly any new phones do , and as far as consumers go , that technology is all but dead .
I can see LED networking going the same way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In case they hadn't noticed, IrDA is dead for a good reason.
The fact that the last two versions of it are much faster than Bluetooth (2.x) is irrelevant, it's too much of an inconvenience for most of its potential users in comparison to Bluetooth.
It was great before Bluetooth came about and I used the latest versions of it with my old phone because it was much faster than Bluetooth, and I never had a problem with it for that purpose.
Most potential users prefer the convenience of Bluetooth though, for obvious reasons.
My new phone doesn't have IrDA, and hardly any new phones do, and as far as consumers go, that technology is all but dead.
I can see LED networking going the same way.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448058</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>IICV</author>
	<datestamp>1268321520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Holy shit, apparently I live in the future and I didn't realize it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Holy shit , apparently I live in the future and I did n't realize it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Holy shit, apparently I live in the future and I didn't realize it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446826</id>
	<title>Re:Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268312760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can imagine a very useful situation for this: Spying<br>If you can turn something as innocuous as a light into your comms you have a secret network connection that no normal person would ever suspect existed. Extreme Big Brother environments have lights everywhere. Do you think even the most hardcore of spooks would think to check the frequency of the lights?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can imagine a very useful situation for this : SpyingIf you can turn something as innocuous as a light into your comms you have a secret network connection that no normal person would ever suspect existed .
Extreme Big Brother environments have lights everywhere .
Do you think even the most hardcore of spooks would think to check the frequency of the lights ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can imagine a very useful situation for this: SpyingIf you can turn something as innocuous as a light into your comms you have a secret network connection that no normal person would ever suspect existed.
Extreme Big Brother environments have lights everywhere.
Do you think even the most hardcore of spooks would think to check the frequency of the lights?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31451466</id>
	<title>Notes</title>
	<author>fulldecent</author>
	<datestamp>1268408580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read about this at FOE 2010 in Japan.</p><p>This technology is anticipated for lab-like environments and obviously the baud rate is high enough that humans are not affected.</p><p>Also, this technology will power Boeing's Dreamliner for connection of audio signals from the remote headset to the entertainment system. The obvious questions are: what if I dont want light (it will be dim... very dim); what if I cover the headphones (it wont work); what about powering them (no response there).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read about this at FOE 2010 in Japan.This technology is anticipated for lab-like environments and obviously the baud rate is high enough that humans are not affected.Also , this technology will power Boeing 's Dreamliner for connection of audio signals from the remote headset to the entertainment system .
The obvious questions are : what if I dont want light ( it will be dim... very dim ) ; what if I cover the headphones ( it wont work ) ; what about powering them ( no response there ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read about this at FOE 2010 in Japan.This technology is anticipated for lab-like environments and obviously the baud rate is high enough that humans are not affected.Also, this technology will power Boeing's Dreamliner for connection of audio signals from the remote headset to the entertainment system.
The obvious questions are: what if I dont want light (it will be dim... very dim); what if I cover the headphones (it wont work); what about powering them (no response there).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446026</id>
	<title>I RTFA</title>
	<author>harrkev</author>
	<datestamp>1268308740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I RTFA.  It says that they achieve the bandwidth by filtering out the blue light.  This makes sense, as white LEDs are actually blue LEDs with phosphors added to get the other colors.  Phosphors are similar to glow-in-the-dark stuff, so they retain light for a little while.  Presumably, the blue filter is only needed over the receiver.</p><p>The one questions is: how does your laptop equipped with this technology talk back?  Will your laptop have a multi-watt emitter on the top (read "bright white light") lighting up the room for the upstream traffic?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I RTFA .
It says that they achieve the bandwidth by filtering out the blue light .
This makes sense , as white LEDs are actually blue LEDs with phosphors added to get the other colors .
Phosphors are similar to glow-in-the-dark stuff , so they retain light for a little while .
Presumably , the blue filter is only needed over the receiver.The one questions is : how does your laptop equipped with this technology talk back ?
Will your laptop have a multi-watt emitter on the top ( read " bright white light " ) lighting up the room for the upstream traffic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I RTFA.
It says that they achieve the bandwidth by filtering out the blue light.
This makes sense, as white LEDs are actually blue LEDs with phosphors added to get the other colors.
Phosphors are similar to glow-in-the-dark stuff, so they retain light for a little while.
Presumably, the blue filter is only needed over the receiver.The one questions is: how does your laptop equipped with this technology talk back?
Will your laptop have a multi-watt emitter on the top (read "bright white light") lighting up the room for the upstream traffic?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446442</id>
	<title>If you want the signal to go through walls...</title>
	<author>NotQuiteReal</author>
	<datestamp>1268310660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Fraunhofer Institute also has an audio-frequency wireless solution that will go through walls, with the proper amplification.
<br>
<br>
Very high bandwidth, it conveys a lot of information, especially in thin-walled multiple dwelling buildings.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Fraunhofer Institute also has an audio-frequency wireless solution that will go through walls , with the proper amplification .
Very high bandwidth , it conveys a lot of information , especially in thin-walled multiple dwelling buildings .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Fraunhofer Institute also has an audio-frequency wireless solution that will go through walls, with the proper amplification.
Very high bandwidth, it conveys a lot of information, especially in thin-walled multiple dwelling buildings.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445990</id>
	<title>An idea that's been around</title>
	<author>dtmos</author>
	<datestamp>1268308620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>US patent <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6542270.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6542270&amp;RS=PN/6542270" title="uspto.gov">6,542,270</a> [uspto.gov] ("Interference-robust coded-modulation scheme for optical communications and method for modulating illumination for optical communications"), issued April 1, 2003, assigns direct sequence spread spectrum-type codes to each overhead fluorescent light, so that communication and location-determination can be performed.  The chip frequency of the coding scheme is fast enough that there is no human-audible or -visual effect, and supportable by electronic ballasts.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>US patent 6,542,270 [ uspto.gov ] ( " Interference-robust coded-modulation scheme for optical communications and method for modulating illumination for optical communications " ) , issued April 1 , 2003 , assigns direct sequence spread spectrum-type codes to each overhead fluorescent light , so that communication and location-determination can be performed .
The chip frequency of the coding scheme is fast enough that there is no human-audible or -visual effect , and supportable by electronic ballasts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US patent 6,542,270 [uspto.gov] ("Interference-robust coded-modulation scheme for optical communications and method for modulating illumination for optical communications"), issued April 1, 2003, assigns direct sequence spread spectrum-type codes to each overhead fluorescent light, so that communication and location-determination can be performed.
The chip frequency of the coding scheme is fast enough that there is no human-audible or -visual effect, and supportable by electronic ballasts.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31459190</id>
	<title>disco virus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268399760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is all well and good until someone downloads a "disco virus" which creates beautiful light strobes but has everyone in the room fall to the floor in epileptic spasms.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is all well and good until someone downloads a " disco virus " which creates beautiful light strobes but has everyone in the room fall to the floor in epileptic spasms .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is all well and good until someone downloads a "disco virus" which creates beautiful light strobes but has everyone in the room fall to the floor in epileptic spasms.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447688</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1268318640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More than that even if you use LED lights you have the issue of the power supplies to contend with. I bet most PSUs won't pass through high frequency modulations.</p><p>So you are talking about either rewiring your lights with a low voltage distribution system of some sort (possible but the cables get very big) or replacing the LED PSUs with something that can carry a signal across (say homeplug one side LED modulation the other)</p><p>There is also the question of what to do for the return link.</p><p>All in all nice idea but it needs some work to turn it into a practical product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More than that even if you use LED lights you have the issue of the power supplies to contend with .
I bet most PSUs wo n't pass through high frequency modulations.So you are talking about either rewiring your lights with a low voltage distribution system of some sort ( possible but the cables get very big ) or replacing the LED PSUs with something that can carry a signal across ( say homeplug one side LED modulation the other ) There is also the question of what to do for the return link.All in all nice idea but it needs some work to turn it into a practical product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More than that even if you use LED lights you have the issue of the power supplies to contend with.
I bet most PSUs won't pass through high frequency modulations.So you are talking about either rewiring your lights with a low voltage distribution system of some sort (possible but the cables get very big) or replacing the LED PSUs with something that can carry a signal across (say homeplug one side LED modulation the other)There is also the question of what to do for the return link.All in all nice idea but it needs some work to turn it into a practical product.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445892</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1268308260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a huge upside for linking up video devices though. No interference from the neighbors, no interference from the other room.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a huge upside for linking up video devices though .
No interference from the neighbors , no interference from the other room .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a huge upside for linking up video devices though.
No interference from the neighbors, no interference from the other room.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445766</id>
	<title>Oh Great</title>
	<author>WrongSizeGlass</author>
	<datestamp>1268307780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A Desklamp? Other light fixtures? What's next, the overheard fluorescent lights??<br> <br>
Now <i>everything</i> I own, from my Star Wars light saber to my Krusty the Klown glow-in-the-dark alarm clock, could potentially with wireless signal. Oy carumba</htmltext>
<tokenext>A Desklamp ?
Other light fixtures ?
What 's next , the overheard fluorescent lights ? ?
Now everything I own , from my Star Wars light saber to my Krusty the Klown glow-in-the-dark alarm clock , could potentially with wireless signal .
Oy carumba</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Desklamp?
Other light fixtures?
What's next, the overheard fluorescent lights??
Now everything I own, from my Star Wars light saber to my Krusty the Klown glow-in-the-dark alarm clock, could potentially with wireless signal.
Oy carumba</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447090</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>blackC0pter</author>
	<datestamp>1268314260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>While LED based internet is a nice idea, the technology is still immature.  You should look at Laser based systems (Free Space Optical).  They are deployed and running now.  I am just about to sign up for such a service in Los Angeles.  They offer up to 100Mb/s at rates about 1/4 to 1/5 the cost of hard fiber.  I did a lot of research and the latency is extremely low on these laser based systems (near zero since it works at layer 1) but the downside is the attenuation in space due to rain, snow and fog.  Basically, rain and fog increase the bit error rate and decrease the effective distance between two end points.  However, the charts showed that this technology was viable at 500+ meters.  In Los Angeles, the downtime will be negligible due to the weather.  Also, the provider I am looking at doesn't have very large gaps between lasers so the weather will affect the system even less.  Also, it's nice having a very fast connection to my datacenter in one wilshire from the office.  Note, some of the FSO systems go up to 10Gbps.
<br> <br>
Here is the ISP for the FSO system:
<a href="http://www.aerioconnect.net/" title="aerioconnect.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.aerioconnect.net/</a> [aerioconnect.net]
<br> <br>
Here is the equipment manufacturer for FSO systems:
<a href="http://www.lightpointe.com/products/default.cfm" title="lightpointe.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightpointe.com/products/default.cfm</a> [lightpointe.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>While LED based internet is a nice idea , the technology is still immature .
You should look at Laser based systems ( Free Space Optical ) .
They are deployed and running now .
I am just about to sign up for such a service in Los Angeles .
They offer up to 100Mb/s at rates about 1/4 to 1/5 the cost of hard fiber .
I did a lot of research and the latency is extremely low on these laser based systems ( near zero since it works at layer 1 ) but the downside is the attenuation in space due to rain , snow and fog .
Basically , rain and fog increase the bit error rate and decrease the effective distance between two end points .
However , the charts showed that this technology was viable at 500 + meters .
In Los Angeles , the downtime will be negligible due to the weather .
Also , the provider I am looking at does n't have very large gaps between lasers so the weather will affect the system even less .
Also , it 's nice having a very fast connection to my datacenter in one wilshire from the office .
Note , some of the FSO systems go up to 10Gbps .
Here is the ISP for the FSO system : http : //www.aerioconnect.net/ [ aerioconnect.net ] Here is the equipment manufacturer for FSO systems : http : //www.lightpointe.com/products/default.cfm [ lightpointe.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While LED based internet is a nice idea, the technology is still immature.
You should look at Laser based systems (Free Space Optical).
They are deployed and running now.
I am just about to sign up for such a service in Los Angeles.
They offer up to 100Mb/s at rates about 1/4 to 1/5 the cost of hard fiber.
I did a lot of research and the latency is extremely low on these laser based systems (near zero since it works at layer 1) but the downside is the attenuation in space due to rain, snow and fog.
Basically, rain and fog increase the bit error rate and decrease the effective distance between two end points.
However, the charts showed that this technology was viable at 500+ meters.
In Los Angeles, the downtime will be negligible due to the weather.
Also, the provider I am looking at doesn't have very large gaps between lasers so the weather will affect the system even less.
Also, it's nice having a very fast connection to my datacenter in one wilshire from the office.
Note, some of the FSO systems go up to 10Gbps.
Here is the ISP for the FSO system:
http://www.aerioconnect.net/ [aerioconnect.net]
 
Here is the equipment manufacturer for FSO systems:
http://www.lightpointe.com/products/default.cfm [lightpointe.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31449852</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268393640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You just need an intricate system of mirrors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You just need an intricate system of mirrors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You just need an intricate system of mirrors.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446408</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>DigitAl56K</author>
	<datestamp>1268310480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Leaking through walls is not always a feature. I can't get the maximum benefit of my Wifi setup because I live in an apartment building and all my neighbors have devices chattering on every channel. All their routers are probably defaulted to high power, and there's nothing I can realistically do to improve my situation except switch to 802.11n/5G, which I did, and now I'm seeing more routers on that frequency range too.</p><p>I don't want to lose my through-walls access, but if it could be heavily supplemented by light within my own home then I have an extra channel that my neighbors systems won't degrade. Even better if the lights can work as repeaters so if I leave some doors open I can get good signal around many corners, and better still if they also support several invisible frequencies so that my signal strength doesn't depend on bright lighting (or any lighting!) and devices like IR remotes don't interfere when you use them. I've also heard others complain their microwave kills their wifi, and I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is then there is another practical problem solved by this technology.</p><p>Tell people about the practical benefits. As far as any security related story, I don't care. I already use WPA2/AES. 99.99\% of the population probably doesn't care beyond that, either.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Leaking through walls is not always a feature .
I ca n't get the maximum benefit of my Wifi setup because I live in an apartment building and all my neighbors have devices chattering on every channel .
All their routers are probably defaulted to high power , and there 's nothing I can realistically do to improve my situation except switch to 802.11n/5G , which I did , and now I 'm seeing more routers on that frequency range too.I do n't want to lose my through-walls access , but if it could be heavily supplemented by light within my own home then I have an extra channel that my neighbors systems wo n't degrade .
Even better if the lights can work as repeaters so if I leave some doors open I can get good signal around many corners , and better still if they also support several invisible frequencies so that my signal strength does n't depend on bright lighting ( or any lighting !
) and devices like IR remotes do n't interfere when you use them .
I 've also heard others complain their microwave kills their wifi , and I do n't know if that 's true or not , but if it is then there is another practical problem solved by this technology.Tell people about the practical benefits .
As far as any security related story , I do n't care .
I already use WPA2/AES .
99.99 \ % of the population probably does n't care beyond that , either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Leaking through walls is not always a feature.
I can't get the maximum benefit of my Wifi setup because I live in an apartment building and all my neighbors have devices chattering on every channel.
All their routers are probably defaulted to high power, and there's nothing I can realistically do to improve my situation except switch to 802.11n/5G, which I did, and now I'm seeing more routers on that frequency range too.I don't want to lose my through-walls access, but if it could be heavily supplemented by light within my own home then I have an extra channel that my neighbors systems won't degrade.
Even better if the lights can work as repeaters so if I leave some doors open I can get good signal around many corners, and better still if they also support several invisible frequencies so that my signal strength doesn't depend on bright lighting (or any lighting!
) and devices like IR remotes don't interfere when you use them.
I've also heard others complain their microwave kills their wifi, and I don't know if that's true or not, but if it is then there is another practical problem solved by this technology.Tell people about the practical benefits.
As far as any security related story, I don't care.
I already use WPA2/AES.
99.99\% of the population probably doesn't care beyond that, either.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448490</id>
	<title>Bandwidth Meter</title>
	<author>multimediavt</author>
	<datestamp>1268326680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Downloading from couch with laptop facing "array" across room, 100\% signal strength</p><p>Dog walks into room between laptop and array, 30\% signal strength while dog passes</p><p>Child walks in room and stands in front of you to talk to you, 0\% signal strength until conversation ends, or kid dies for cutting off your slashdot post mid submit!</p><p>Wife walks in with credit card bill with pr0n charges, array gets smashed and you get served.</p><p>No good can come from this!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Downloading from couch with laptop facing " array " across room , 100 \ % signal strengthDog walks into room between laptop and array , 30 \ % signal strength while dog passesChild walks in room and stands in front of you to talk to you , 0 \ % signal strength until conversation ends , or kid dies for cutting off your slashdot post mid submit ! Wife walks in with credit card bill with pr0n charges , array gets smashed and you get served.No good can come from this !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Downloading from couch with laptop facing "array" across room, 100\% signal strengthDog walks into room between laptop and array, 30\% signal strength while dog passesChild walks in room and stands in front of you to talk to you, 0\% signal strength until conversation ends, or kid dies for cutting off your slashdot post mid submit!Wife walks in with credit card bill with pr0n charges, array gets smashed and you get served.No good can come from this!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31451852</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1268410500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>requiring line of site.</i></p><p>That was the worst pun I've seen all day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>requiring line of site.That was the worst pun I 've seen all day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>requiring line of site.That was the worst pun I've seen all day.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448544</id>
	<title>Re:Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>izomiac</author>
	<datestamp>1268327760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps the increase in frequency allows for greater throughput.  IR is under 400 THz while visible light goes up to about 800 THz.  Any higher and you risk eye damage with long term exposure (UV-A*), or DNA damage (UV-B, UV-C, and up).  Visible light also isn't absorbed quite so much by the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Atmospheric\_electromagnetic\_opacity.svg" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">atmosphere</a> [wikipedia.org].<br> <br>

* Technically, Green, Blue, Violet, and UV-A all cause <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-energy\_visible\_light" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">eye damage over time</a> [wikipedia.org].  UV-A can cause DNA damage indirectly, and skin damage, but I'm assuming low intensity here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps the increase in frequency allows for greater throughput .
IR is under 400 THz while visible light goes up to about 800 THz .
Any higher and you risk eye damage with long term exposure ( UV-A * ) , or DNA damage ( UV-B , UV-C , and up ) .
Visible light also is n't absorbed quite so much by the atmosphere [ wikipedia.org ] .
* Technically , Green , Blue , Violet , and UV-A all cause eye damage over time [ wikipedia.org ] .
UV-A can cause DNA damage indirectly , and skin damage , but I 'm assuming low intensity here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps the increase in frequency allows for greater throughput.
IR is under 400 THz while visible light goes up to about 800 THz.
Any higher and you risk eye damage with long term exposure (UV-A*), or DNA damage (UV-B, UV-C, and up).
Visible light also isn't absorbed quite so much by the atmosphere [wikipedia.org].
* Technically, Green, Blue, Violet, and UV-A all cause eye damage over time [wikipedia.org].
UV-A can cause DNA damage indirectly, and skin damage, but I'm assuming low intensity here.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448994</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268335560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Incandescent can't be modulated *full-swing* at the frequencies necessary for anything much beyond S O S signals.  The filament measurably (but not visibly, due to persistence of vision) brightens and dims with 50/60Hz cycles.  I don't know what the upper limit of modulation would be before the signal was lost in noise or the filament's inductance became a factor. It's almost certainly not anywhere near high enough for this data rate, but to say that its limited to modulation in single digit Hz is absolutely false.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Incandescent ca n't be modulated * full-swing * at the frequencies necessary for anything much beyond S O S signals .
The filament measurably ( but not visibly , due to persistence of vision ) brightens and dims with 50/60Hz cycles .
I do n't know what the upper limit of modulation would be before the signal was lost in noise or the filament 's inductance became a factor .
It 's almost certainly not anywhere near high enough for this data rate , but to say that its limited to modulation in single digit Hz is absolutely false .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Incandescent can't be modulated *full-swing* at the frequencies necessary for anything much beyond S O S signals.
The filament measurably (but not visibly, due to persistence of vision) brightens and dims with 50/60Hz cycles.
I don't know what the upper limit of modulation would be before the signal was lost in noise or the filament's inductance became a factor.
It's almost certainly not anywhere near high enough for this data rate, but to say that its limited to modulation in single digit Hz is absolutely false.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446748</id>
	<title>Re:Utterly Stupid....</title>
	<author>dominious</author>
	<datestamp>1268312340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>just because you don't see any potential applications it doesn't mean it's "utterly stupid". Line of sight is not so difficult if all I want is to stream from my laptop to the tv to watch a HD movie with some friends.

<br> <br>
Ok this is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. No friends, forgot.</htmltext>
<tokenext>just because you do n't see any potential applications it does n't mean it 's " utterly stupid " .
Line of sight is not so difficult if all I want is to stream from my laptop to the tv to watch a HD movie with some friends .
Ok this is / .
No friends , forgot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>just because you don't see any potential applications it doesn't mean it's "utterly stupid".
Line of sight is not so difficult if all I want is to stream from my laptop to the tv to watch a HD movie with some friends.
Ok this is /.
No friends, forgot.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31448788</id>
	<title>1975 here we come...</title>
	<author>flyingfsck</author>
	<datestamp>1268331240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Geez, I played with LED data links when I was in high school and LEDS came in all colours provided that it was red.  Years later I used the power LED of a device (woohoo, we had green too by then) for a debug data link.

Now you *really* got to get off my lawn...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Geez , I played with LED data links when I was in high school and LEDS came in all colours provided that it was red .
Years later I used the power LED of a device ( woohoo , we had green too by then ) for a debug data link .
Now you * really * got to get off my lawn.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Geez, I played with LED data links when I was in high school and LEDS came in all colours provided that it was red.
Years later I used the power LED of a device (woohoo, we had green too by then) for a debug data link.
Now you *really* got to get off my lawn...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446514</id>
	<title>Re:Just different ones</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268311020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Line-of-sight should not be a huge issue.</p><p><a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100309151503.htm" title="sciencedaily.com" rel="nofollow">"The signal would be generated in a room by slightly flickering all the lights in unison."</a> [sciencedaily.com]</p><p>Looks like something based off ambient lighting.  A couple of light sources should be sufficient to get around LOS issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Line-of-sight should not be a huge issue .
" The signal would be generated in a room by slightly flickering all the lights in unison .
" [ sciencedaily.com ] Looks like something based off ambient lighting .
A couple of light sources should be sufficient to get around LOS issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Line-of-sight should not be a huge issue.
"The signal would be generated in a room by slightly flickering all the lights in unison.
" [sciencedaily.com]Looks like something based off ambient lighting.
A couple of light sources should be sufficient to get around LOS issues.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31451930</id>
	<title>Re:No upsides either</title>
	<author>david@ecsd.com</author>
	<datestamp>1268410920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It isn't the cost of the paper labels, it's the cost of the labor to replace the shelf tags.  I work in retail and that costs craploads.  And it isn't every few weeks sometimes it's weekly--you have sales, you have price changes, etc.  And you're not just printing out one or two shelf tags to get that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.01 each, you're printing out hundreds to make it cost effective, and then you have to ship them out to the stores--more labor--have someone sort them--even more labor.  I can see an automated system paying for itself quickly.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't the cost of the paper labels , it 's the cost of the labor to replace the shelf tags .
I work in retail and that costs craploads .
And it is n't every few weeks sometimes it 's weekly--you have sales , you have price changes , etc .
And you 're not just printing out one or two shelf tags to get that .01 each , you 're printing out hundreds to make it cost effective , and then you have to ship them out to the stores--more labor--have someone sort them--even more labor .
I can see an automated system paying for itself quickly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't the cost of the paper labels, it's the cost of the labor to replace the shelf tags.
I work in retail and that costs craploads.
And it isn't every few weeks sometimes it's weekly--you have sales, you have price changes, etc.
And you're not just printing out one or two shelf tags to get that .01 each, you're printing out hundreds to make it cost effective, and then you have to ship them out to the stores--more labor--have someone sort them--even more labor.
I can see an automated system paying for itself quickly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31447746</id>
	<title>Re:If you want the signal to go through walls...</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1268319060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Very high bandwidth</i><br>I dunno if you were being serious or trying to make a joke but the bandwidth and hence the data rate of audio are very limited (yes better modulation and techniques like MIMO can get more data rate out of the same bandwidth but there are limits)</p><p>I bet you would really struggle to get even a couple of hundred kilobits per second reliably out of free space audio transmission and that's assuming it was acceptable to drown out all other sound over most of the audio band.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Very high bandwidthI dunno if you were being serious or trying to make a joke but the bandwidth and hence the data rate of audio are very limited ( yes better modulation and techniques like MIMO can get more data rate out of the same bandwidth but there are limits ) I bet you would really struggle to get even a couple of hundred kilobits per second reliably out of free space audio transmission and that 's assuming it was acceptable to drown out all other sound over most of the audio band .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very high bandwidthI dunno if you were being serious or trying to make a joke but the bandwidth and hence the data rate of audio are very limited (yes better modulation and techniques like MIMO can get more data rate out of the same bandwidth but there are limits)I bet you would really struggle to get even a couple of hundred kilobits per second reliably out of free space audio transmission and that's assuming it was acceptable to drown out all other sound over most of the audio band.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445810</id>
	<title>Don't look into the light!?!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268307960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone bother to ask the epileptics how they feel about this?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone bother to ask the epileptics how they feel about this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone bother to ask the epileptics how they feel about this?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31446954</id>
	<title>Re:Don't look into the light!?!</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1268313360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a seizure disorder, but according to my EEG I am not photosensitive. Generally you would worry about pulses below 100hz. This system sends data at megabits per second so there is no primary need to pulse at low frequencies. I a imagine that starting and stopping downloads (say) could generate visible pulses but I am sure the system could be designed not to behave that way.</p><p>I have read that usable data can be extracted from the TX/RX LEDS on some hubs and switches. I am more concerned about the 9-12Hz pulsing LED lights on bicycles. I don't use them on my bike.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a seizure disorder , but according to my EEG I am not photosensitive .
Generally you would worry about pulses below 100hz .
This system sends data at megabits per second so there is no primary need to pulse at low frequencies .
I a imagine that starting and stopping downloads ( say ) could generate visible pulses but I am sure the system could be designed not to behave that way.I have read that usable data can be extracted from the TX/RX LEDS on some hubs and switches .
I am more concerned about the 9-12Hz pulsing LED lights on bicycles .
I do n't use them on my bike .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a seizure disorder, but according to my EEG I am not photosensitive.
Generally you would worry about pulses below 100hz.
This system sends data at megabits per second so there is no primary need to pulse at low frequencies.
I a imagine that starting and stopping downloads (say) could generate visible pulses but I am sure the system could be designed not to behave that way.I have read that usable data can be extracted from the TX/RX LEDS on some hubs and switches.
I am more concerned about the 9-12Hz pulsing LED lights on bicycles.
I don't use them on my bike.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_11_228247.31445728</id>
	<title>No upsides either</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268307600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Leaking through walls" isn't a bug, it's a feature; I don't want to wire my whole house for Ethernet just to have wireless in every room, as that defeats the purpose.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Leaking through walls " is n't a bug , it 's a feature ; I do n't want to wire my whole house for Ethernet just to have wireless in every room , as that defeats the purpose .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Leaking through walls" isn't a bug, it's a feature; I don't want to wire my whole house for Ethernet just to have wireless in every room, as that defeats the purpose.</sentencetext>
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