<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_10_2114204</id>
	<title>Sweet, Sour, Salty, Bitter, Protein<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and Now Fat</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1268212860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>ral writes <i>"The human tongue can taste more than sweet, sour, salty, bitter and protein.  Researchers have <a href="http://www.slashfood.com/2010/03/09/so-fat-you-can-taste-it/">added fat to that list</a>.  Dr. Russell Keast, an exercise and nutrition sciences professor at Deakin University in Melbourne, told Slashfood, 'This makes logical sense. We have sweet to identify carbohydrate/sugars, and umami to identify protein/amino acids, so we could expect a taste to identify the other macronutrient: fat.' In the Deakin study, which appears in the latest issue of the British Journal of Nutrition, Dr. Keast and his team gave a group of 33 people fatty acids found in common foods, mixed in with nonfat milk to disguise the telltale fat texture. All 33 could detect the fatty acids to at least a small degree."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>ral writes " The human tongue can taste more than sweet , sour , salty , bitter and protein .
Researchers have added fat to that list .
Dr. Russell Keast , an exercise and nutrition sciences professor at Deakin University in Melbourne , told Slashfood , 'This makes logical sense .
We have sweet to identify carbohydrate/sugars , and umami to identify protein/amino acids , so we could expect a taste to identify the other macronutrient : fat .
' In the Deakin study , which appears in the latest issue of the British Journal of Nutrition , Dr. Keast and his team gave a group of 33 people fatty acids found in common foods , mixed in with nonfat milk to disguise the telltale fat texture .
All 33 could detect the fatty acids to at least a small degree .
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<sentencetext>ral writes "The human tongue can taste more than sweet, sour, salty, bitter and protein.
Researchers have added fat to that list.
Dr. Russell Keast, an exercise and nutrition sciences professor at Deakin University in Melbourne, told Slashfood, 'This makes logical sense.
We have sweet to identify carbohydrate/sugars, and umami to identify protein/amino acids, so we could expect a taste to identify the other macronutrient: fat.
' In the Deakin study, which appears in the latest issue of the British Journal of Nutrition, Dr. Keast and his team gave a group of 33 people fatty acids found in common foods, mixed in with nonfat milk to disguise the telltale fat texture.
All 33 could detect the fatty acids to at least a small degree.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431528</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268218260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's just because women are stupid, brah.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's just because women are stupid , brah .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's just because women are stupid, brah.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432276</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268222160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistance, which in turn is caused by continual spiking of insulin from increased blood glucose, which in turn is caused by continual consumption of highly-refined carbs. So while fat people certainly eat fatty foods (as does everyone else), the root cause of their obesity is the refined carbs in their diet, not the fat.</p></div><p>I'm pretty sure obesity is caused by inactivity.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistance , which in turn is caused by continual spiking of insulin from increased blood glucose , which in turn is caused by continual consumption of highly-refined carbs .
So while fat people certainly eat fatty foods ( as does everyone else ) , the root cause of their obesity is the refined carbs in their diet , not the fat.I 'm pretty sure obesity is caused by inactivity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistance, which in turn is caused by continual spiking of insulin from increased blood glucose, which in turn is caused by continual consumption of highly-refined carbs.
So while fat people certainly eat fatty foods (as does everyone else), the root cause of their obesity is the refined carbs in their diet, not the fat.I'm pretty sure obesity is caused by inactivity.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431496</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>BKX</author>
	<datestamp>1268218140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, did you actually read the article you linked to? It clearly states that they don't believe that we have an extra calcium sensing taste bud, but that our existing taste buds detect calcium as bitter, and therefore people who are sensitive to bitter (and don't like it) tend not to eat enough calcium as a result.</p><p>Second, there are probably a whole bunch of tastes we can detect that we don't list as having special taste buds. Picante* comes up high on the list (and is an important consideration in many cuisines). Umami was a taste that many didn't list until just a few years ago but was always a consideration in Asian cuisine (as is picante). Anyone with half a brain could have told you that humans can detect fat content in food by taste. Just go and try the fat free equivalent of a naturally fatty food. It'll taste like ass, precisely because you're not sensing the fat content. They can try to substitute things in to overcome this limitation like extra sugars or textures that mimic the mouthfeel of fat, but they aren't the same as actual fat.</p><p>* (This is the Spanish word for the hot kind of spicy. In English this is sometimes called piquant (from French), but that word can also mean spicy in a more general sense (think Christmas spice), and so I like the Spanish word instead. Hot is also a bad word for picante since it can also refer to temperature, and when talking about food, we need to differentiate somehow.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , did you actually read the article you linked to ?
It clearly states that they do n't believe that we have an extra calcium sensing taste bud , but that our existing taste buds detect calcium as bitter , and therefore people who are sensitive to bitter ( and do n't like it ) tend not to eat enough calcium as a result.Second , there are probably a whole bunch of tastes we can detect that we do n't list as having special taste buds .
Picante * comes up high on the list ( and is an important consideration in many cuisines ) .
Umami was a taste that many did n't list until just a few years ago but was always a consideration in Asian cuisine ( as is picante ) .
Anyone with half a brain could have told you that humans can detect fat content in food by taste .
Just go and try the fat free equivalent of a naturally fatty food .
It 'll taste like ass , precisely because you 're not sensing the fat content .
They can try to substitute things in to overcome this limitation like extra sugars or textures that mimic the mouthfeel of fat , but they are n't the same as actual fat .
* ( This is the Spanish word for the hot kind of spicy .
In English this is sometimes called piquant ( from French ) , but that word can also mean spicy in a more general sense ( think Christmas spice ) , and so I like the Spanish word instead .
Hot is also a bad word for picante since it can also refer to temperature , and when talking about food , we need to differentiate somehow .
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<sentencetext>First, did you actually read the article you linked to?
It clearly states that they don't believe that we have an extra calcium sensing taste bud, but that our existing taste buds detect calcium as bitter, and therefore people who are sensitive to bitter (and don't like it) tend not to eat enough calcium as a result.Second, there are probably a whole bunch of tastes we can detect that we don't list as having special taste buds.
Picante* comes up high on the list (and is an important consideration in many cuisines).
Umami was a taste that many didn't list until just a few years ago but was always a consideration in Asian cuisine (as is picante).
Anyone with half a brain could have told you that humans can detect fat content in food by taste.
Just go and try the fat free equivalent of a naturally fatty food.
It'll taste like ass, precisely because you're not sensing the fat content.
They can try to substitute things in to overcome this limitation like extra sugars or textures that mimic the mouthfeel of fat, but they aren't the same as actual fat.
* (This is the Spanish word for the hot kind of spicy.
In English this is sometimes called piquant (from French), but that word can also mean spicy in a more general sense (think Christmas spice), and so I like the Spanish word instead.
Hot is also a bad word for picante since it can also refer to temperature, and when talking about food, we need to differentiate somehow.
)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433038</id>
	<title>Obligatory Phil Jupitus</title>
	<author>Heed00</author>
	<datestamp>1268227680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is that the sound you make when you taste it?  Oooooo mammy!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is that the sound you make when you taste it ?
Oooooo mammy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is that the sound you make when you taste it?
Oooooo mammy!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431454</id>
	<title>but why?</title>
	<author>clickety6</author>
	<datestamp>1268217960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with all these different taste receptors, why can't i taste my own tongue?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with all these different taste receptors , why ca n't i taste my own tongue ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with all these different taste receptors, why can't i taste my own tongue?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431308</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268217300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistance, which in turn is caused by continual spiking of insulin from increased blood glucose, which in turn is caused by continual consumption of highly-refined carbs. So while fat people certainly eat fatty foods (as does everyone else), the root cause of their obesity is the refined carbs in their diet, not the fat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistance , which in turn is caused by continual spiking of insulin from increased blood glucose , which in turn is caused by continual consumption of highly-refined carbs .
So while fat people certainly eat fatty foods ( as does everyone else ) , the root cause of their obesity is the refined carbs in their diet , not the fat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistance, which in turn is caused by continual spiking of insulin from increased blood glucose, which in turn is caused by continual consumption of highly-refined carbs.
So while fat people certainly eat fatty foods (as does everyone else), the root cause of their obesity is the refined carbs in their diet, not the fat.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431624</id>
	<title>Re:What about electricity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268218620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why the AC post?   That shit was funny!  Now I gotta go find myself a 9-volt to try that out again...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why the AC post ?
That shit was funny !
Now I got ta go find myself a 9-volt to try that out again.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why the AC post?
That shit was funny!
Now I gotta go find myself a 9-volt to try that out again...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31440400</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1268332440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Just go and try the fat free equivalent of a naturally fatty food. It'll taste like ass, precisely because you're not sensing the fat content.</p></div><p>And so they load it down with extra HFCS to cover for the bad taste. Now you have a nasty tasting high calorie food that has removed the substance that triggers satiety so you'll tend to eat a lot more of it. But it's a good thing you didn't eat any of that horrible fat!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just go and try the fat free equivalent of a naturally fatty food .
It 'll taste like ass , precisely because you 're not sensing the fat content.And so they load it down with extra HFCS to cover for the bad taste .
Now you have a nasty tasting high calorie food that has removed the substance that triggers satiety so you 'll tend to eat a lot more of it .
But it 's a good thing you did n't eat any of that horrible fat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just go and try the fat free equivalent of a naturally fatty food.
It'll taste like ass, precisely because you're not sensing the fat content.And so they load it down with extra HFCS to cover for the bad taste.
Now you have a nasty tasting high calorie food that has removed the substance that triggers satiety so you'll tend to eat a lot more of it.
But it's a good thing you didn't eat any of that horrible fat!
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431638</id>
	<title>silly made up word</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268218680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>umami isn't a word, stop pretending it is</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>umami is n't a word , stop pretending it is</tokentext>
<sentencetext>umami isn't a word, stop pretending it is</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434288</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1268239680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>obesity is caused by taking in more energy than you burn, period!</p></div><p>What is it like living without an anus?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>obesity is caused by taking in more energy than you burn , period ! What is it like living without an anus ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>obesity is caused by taking in more energy than you burn, period!What is it like living without an anus?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432458</id>
	<title>Re:but why?</title>
	<author>FelixNZ</author>
	<datestamp>1268223360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's just that you're tasting it ALL THE TIME that it isn't detectable any more. For instance, my wife's tongue tastes different<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's just that you 're tasting it ALL THE TIME that it is n't detectable any more .
For instance , my wife 's tongue tastes different : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's just that you're tasting it ALL THE TIME that it isn't detectable any more.
For instance, my wife's tongue tastes different :P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432744</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>mattack2</author>
	<datestamp>1268225340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I use 2\% milk on cereal after being used to non-fat, the 2\% seems very thick.</p><p>I didn't RTFM, but that's why it seemed like using non-fat milk was surprising.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I use 2 \ % milk on cereal after being used to non-fat , the 2 \ % seems very thick.I did n't RTFM , but that 's why it seemed like using non-fat milk was surprising .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I use 2\% milk on cereal after being used to non-fat, the 2\% seems very thick.I didn't RTFM, but that's why it seemed like using non-fat milk was surprising.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434968</id>
	<title>What about other nutrients?</title>
	<author>plopez</author>
	<datestamp>1268248440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For example, when I don't eat fresh fruits or veggies for a while I start to *crave* them. There must be something that triggers this. Perhaps flavor or something else. It can't be just sugar since I have ample access to sugar.</p><p>As an undergrad I once tried to only eat processed food for a while as an experiment (Spam, ramen, frozen pizza, frozen burritos etc). I had to quit in about a week. I just started craving fresh food in a crazy manner.</p><p>I wonder if this has been investigated.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For example , when I do n't eat fresh fruits or veggies for a while I start to * crave * them .
There must be something that triggers this .
Perhaps flavor or something else .
It ca n't be just sugar since I have ample access to sugar.As an undergrad I once tried to only eat processed food for a while as an experiment ( Spam , ramen , frozen pizza , frozen burritos etc ) .
I had to quit in about a week .
I just started craving fresh food in a crazy manner.I wonder if this has been investigated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For example, when I don't eat fresh fruits or veggies for a while I start to *crave* them.
There must be something that triggers this.
Perhaps flavor or something else.
It can't be just sugar since I have ample access to sugar.As an undergrad I once tried to only eat processed food for a while as an experiment (Spam, ramen, frozen pizza, frozen burritos etc).
I had to quit in about a week.
I just started craving fresh food in a crazy manner.I wonder if this has been investigated.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433896</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>X0563511</author>
	<datestamp>1268235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <b>It left a taste in my mouth similar to if I had gone out and licked a homeless person.</b></p> </div><p> <i>That's what she said!</i></p><p>Couldn't help it. Sorry.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It left a taste in my mouth similar to if I had gone out and licked a homeless person .
That 's what she said ! Could n't help it .
Sorry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It left a taste in my mouth similar to if I had gone out and licked a homeless person.
That's what she said!Couldn't help it.
Sorry.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433314</id>
	<title>Protein??</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268229720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What&rsquo;s with umami? That one&rsquo;s proven (the receptors are found), and well-known.<br>Protein is not umami. And protein isn&rsquo;t even proven yet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What    s with umami ?
That one    s proven ( the receptors are found ) , and well-known.Protein is not umami .
And protein isn    t even proven yet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What’s with umami?
That one’s proven (the receptors are found), and well-known.Protein is not umami.
And protein isn’t even proven yet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432250</id>
	<title>Re:Protein?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268221980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You actually read the summary??</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You actually read the summary ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You actually read the summary?
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432546</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>blair1q</author>
	<datestamp>1268223900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since BMI isn't proportional to body composition, I say you're full of McNuggets.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since BMI is n't proportional to body composition , I say you 're full of McNuggets .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since BMI isn't proportional to body composition, I say you're full of McNuggets.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432212</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1268221620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>(This is the Spanish word for the hot kind of spicy. In English this is sometimes called piquant (from French), but that word can also mean spicy in a more general sense (think Christmas spice)</i></p><p>The adjective to describe something with e.g Christmas spice in it in English is "spiced".</p><p>I.e. "Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum", as opposed to "Captain Morgan's Spicy Rum" which sounds both scary and awesome.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/me considers that he possesses both Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum and Tabasco sauce...</p><p>Anyway yeah I do like the Spanish 'picante' too for its clarity.  I've forgotten most of what little Spanish I ever knew, but I did appreciate how it both seemed to lack extraneous synonyms for everything (though that probably makes poets sad), yet also had separate words for things that are really different enough to be considered homonyms in English.</p><p>"Free" is my favorite example...  "Software libre" is perfectly clear in Spanish.  There's really no need to say "Libre como libertad, no gratis como cerveza".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>( This is the Spanish word for the hot kind of spicy .
In English this is sometimes called piquant ( from French ) , but that word can also mean spicy in a more general sense ( think Christmas spice ) The adjective to describe something with e.g Christmas spice in it in English is " spiced " .I.e .
" Captain Morgan 's Spiced Rum " , as opposed to " Captain Morgan 's Spicy Rum " which sounds both scary and awesome .
/me considers that he possesses both Captain Morgan 's Spiced Rum and Tabasco sauce...Anyway yeah I do like the Spanish 'picante ' too for its clarity .
I 've forgotten most of what little Spanish I ever knew , but I did appreciate how it both seemed to lack extraneous synonyms for everything ( though that probably makes poets sad ) , yet also had separate words for things that are really different enough to be considered homonyms in English .
" Free " is my favorite example... " Software libre " is perfectly clear in Spanish .
There 's really no need to say " Libre como libertad , no gratis como cerveza " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>(This is the Spanish word for the hot kind of spicy.
In English this is sometimes called piquant (from French), but that word can also mean spicy in a more general sense (think Christmas spice)The adjective to describe something with e.g Christmas spice in it in English is "spiced".I.e.
"Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum", as opposed to "Captain Morgan's Spicy Rum" which sounds both scary and awesome.
/me considers that he possesses both Captain Morgan's Spiced Rum and Tabasco sauce...Anyway yeah I do like the Spanish 'picante' too for its clarity.
I've forgotten most of what little Spanish I ever knew, but I did appreciate how it both seemed to lack extraneous synonyms for everything (though that probably makes poets sad), yet also had separate words for things that are really different enough to be considered homonyms in English.
"Free" is my favorite example...  "Software libre" is perfectly clear in Spanish.
There's really no need to say "Libre como libertad, no gratis como cerveza".</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Savory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268221800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>... nothing fat-free tastes as good as its fat-...not free counterpart.</p></div><p>The word you are looking for is *fat-proprietary*.</p></div>
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<tokenext>... nothing fat-free tastes as good as its fat-...not free counterpart.The word you are looking for is * fat-proprietary * .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... nothing fat-free tastes as good as its fat-...not free counterpart.The word you are looking for is *fat-proprietary*.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432514</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268223600000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I may be mistaken, but I think it is generally considered that spicy or picante does not have a flavor receptor and that the picante experience can be attributed to chemicals that cause irritation in our mouths.</i></p><p>Yeah; you probably are mistaken.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)  For a long time, there has been a bit of a medical mystery about how hot peppers produce a sensation that feels like major heat damage, but medical tests can't detect any actual tissue damage of any sort.  This was answered a few years ago by some researchers who determined that the capsaicin chemical that does the job targets specifically the nerve endings that detect heat, and tricks them into sending a false signal to the brain saying "I'm being burned!"</p><p>An interesting aspect to this was verification that capsaicin does target specifically mammalian heat sensors, and doesn't work with birds.  Anyone who has pet birds is familiar with this.  Seed mixtures intended for birds such as parrots usually contain hot peppers, which the birds like.  I like to grow my own hot peppers in pots that I bring in during the winter.  I have to protect them from our pet conure and cockatiels, because they'll land and the plants and devastate them.  When I decide to pick the ripe ones, the conure especially is right there demanding samples of the harvest, which she devours whole.</p><p>Further research is needed on the topic, but the hypothesis is that hot peppers evolved their "hot" chemical explicitly to distinguish between mammals and birds.  Pepper seeds have a thin, leathery shell which doesn't survive the long, slow digestive system of most mammals.  But birds can't afford to carry food around for long; they have a short, powerful digestive system that extracts just the easily-digested stuff and dumps the rest after only a few hours, because it would take more energy to transport it than it contains.  The leathery shells of pepper seeds do survive a bird's digestive process.  So the hypothesis is that peppers are specifically encouraging birds as seed-transport agents, and discouraging mammals that would digest the seeds.</p><p>There's some sort of biological irony in the fact that hot peppers have been spread from their origin (South America) to the rest of the world by a mammal (us).  Of course, we can easily do something that's difficult for other mammals:  We can dilute the hot pepper enough that it's just a minor (or not so minor) flavor mixed with other flavors, and not overpowering as it is if you eat the pepper alone.</p><p>In any case, to be on topic, we should note that the hotness of hot peppers isn't really a "flavor".  It's more a case of our heat sensors being tricked by a chemical produced by plants that are trying to prevent us from eating their fruit and digesting their seeds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I may be mistaken , but I think it is generally considered that spicy or picante does not have a flavor receptor and that the picante experience can be attributed to chemicals that cause irritation in our mouths.Yeah ; you probably are mistaken .
; - ) For a long time , there has been a bit of a medical mystery about how hot peppers produce a sensation that feels like major heat damage , but medical tests ca n't detect any actual tissue damage of any sort .
This was answered a few years ago by some researchers who determined that the capsaicin chemical that does the job targets specifically the nerve endings that detect heat , and tricks them into sending a false signal to the brain saying " I 'm being burned !
" An interesting aspect to this was verification that capsaicin does target specifically mammalian heat sensors , and does n't work with birds .
Anyone who has pet birds is familiar with this .
Seed mixtures intended for birds such as parrots usually contain hot peppers , which the birds like .
I like to grow my own hot peppers in pots that I bring in during the winter .
I have to protect them from our pet conure and cockatiels , because they 'll land and the plants and devastate them .
When I decide to pick the ripe ones , the conure especially is right there demanding samples of the harvest , which she devours whole.Further research is needed on the topic , but the hypothesis is that hot peppers evolved their " hot " chemical explicitly to distinguish between mammals and birds .
Pepper seeds have a thin , leathery shell which does n't survive the long , slow digestive system of most mammals .
But birds ca n't afford to carry food around for long ; they have a short , powerful digestive system that extracts just the easily-digested stuff and dumps the rest after only a few hours , because it would take more energy to transport it than it contains .
The leathery shells of pepper seeds do survive a bird 's digestive process .
So the hypothesis is that peppers are specifically encouraging birds as seed-transport agents , and discouraging mammals that would digest the seeds.There 's some sort of biological irony in the fact that hot peppers have been spread from their origin ( South America ) to the rest of the world by a mammal ( us ) .
Of course , we can easily do something that 's difficult for other mammals : We can dilute the hot pepper enough that it 's just a minor ( or not so minor ) flavor mixed with other flavors , and not overpowering as it is if you eat the pepper alone.In any case , to be on topic , we should note that the hotness of hot peppers is n't really a " flavor " .
It 's more a case of our heat sensors being tricked by a chemical produced by plants that are trying to prevent us from eating their fruit and digesting their seeds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I may be mistaken, but I think it is generally considered that spicy or picante does not have a flavor receptor and that the picante experience can be attributed to chemicals that cause irritation in our mouths.Yeah; you probably are mistaken.
;-)  For a long time, there has been a bit of a medical mystery about how hot peppers produce a sensation that feels like major heat damage, but medical tests can't detect any actual tissue damage of any sort.
This was answered a few years ago by some researchers who determined that the capsaicin chemical that does the job targets specifically the nerve endings that detect heat, and tricks them into sending a false signal to the brain saying "I'm being burned!
"An interesting aspect to this was verification that capsaicin does target specifically mammalian heat sensors, and doesn't work with birds.
Anyone who has pet birds is familiar with this.
Seed mixtures intended for birds such as parrots usually contain hot peppers, which the birds like.
I like to grow my own hot peppers in pots that I bring in during the winter.
I have to protect them from our pet conure and cockatiels, because they'll land and the plants and devastate them.
When I decide to pick the ripe ones, the conure especially is right there demanding samples of the harvest, which she devours whole.Further research is needed on the topic, but the hypothesis is that hot peppers evolved their "hot" chemical explicitly to distinguish between mammals and birds.
Pepper seeds have a thin, leathery shell which doesn't survive the long, slow digestive system of most mammals.
But birds can't afford to carry food around for long; they have a short, powerful digestive system that extracts just the easily-digested stuff and dumps the rest after only a few hours, because it would take more energy to transport it than it contains.
The leathery shells of pepper seeds do survive a bird's digestive process.
So the hypothesis is that peppers are specifically encouraging birds as seed-transport agents, and discouraging mammals that would digest the seeds.There's some sort of biological irony in the fact that hot peppers have been spread from their origin (South America) to the rest of the world by a mammal (us).
Of course, we can easily do something that's difficult for other mammals:  We can dilute the hot pepper enough that it's just a minor (or not so minor) flavor mixed with other flavors, and not overpowering as it is if you eat the pepper alone.In any case, to be on topic, we should note that the hotness of hot peppers isn't really a "flavor".
It's more a case of our heat sensors being tricked by a chemical produced by plants that are trying to prevent us from eating their fruit and digesting their seeds.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431880</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>cromar</author>
	<datestamp>1268219820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I may be mistaken, but I think it is generally considered that spicy or picante does not have a flavor receptor and that the picante experience can be attributed to chemicals that cause irritation in our mouths.  It's funny to me that in the West we have known of savory foods for thousands of years, and yet many did not pay attention to that realm of cuisine, or at least not attribute the status of flavor to it.  It has certainly been used to great affect in almost every culture I can think of!  I guess it is new to people, because we did not know of a receptor for it, but then, I think that the 4 flavors theory is relatively new...<br> <br>PS It <em>is</em> very annoying when you want to describe picante foods and you lose nuance of meaning because of the overlap between hot and spicy.  Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I may be mistaken , but I think it is generally considered that spicy or picante does not have a flavor receptor and that the picante experience can be attributed to chemicals that cause irritation in our mouths .
It 's funny to me that in the West we have known of savory foods for thousands of years , and yet many did not pay attention to that realm of cuisine , or at least not attribute the status of flavor to it .
It has certainly been used to great affect in almost every culture I can think of !
I guess it is new to people , because we did not know of a receptor for it , but then , I think that the 4 flavors theory is relatively new... PS It is very annoying when you want to describe picante foods and you lose nuance of meaning because of the overlap between hot and spicy .
Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I may be mistaken, but I think it is generally considered that spicy or picante does not have a flavor receptor and that the picante experience can be attributed to chemicals that cause irritation in our mouths.
It's funny to me that in the West we have known of savory foods for thousands of years, and yet many did not pay attention to that realm of cuisine, or at least not attribute the status of flavor to it.
It has certainly been used to great affect in almost every culture I can think of!
I guess it is new to people, because we did not know of a receptor for it, but then, I think that the 4 flavors theory is relatively new... PS It is very annoying when you want to describe picante foods and you lose nuance of meaning because of the overlap between hot and spicy.
Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432740</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>OlRickDawson</author>
	<datestamp>1268225340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, I did. However, the one that convinced me that it was real is <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080820163008.htm" title="sciencedaily.com" rel="nofollow">this one</a> [sciencedaily.com] in science daily. The receptor is called CaSR. Of course, that was in mice, not humans. The article I linked to was the first one I found, and not the best, and definitely not the one that I had read a while back when I first heard about it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I did .
However , the one that convinced me that it was real is this one [ sciencedaily.com ] in science daily .
The receptor is called CaSR .
Of course , that was in mice , not humans .
The article I linked to was the first one I found , and not the best , and definitely not the one that I had read a while back when I first heard about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I did.
However, the one that convinced me that it was real is this one [sciencedaily.com] in science daily.
The receptor is called CaSR.
Of course, that was in mice, not humans.
The article I linked to was the first one I found, and not the best, and definitely not the one that I had read a while back when I first heard about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432536</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>blair1q</author>
	<datestamp>1268223840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Given that the essential problem is that "taste" is a fairly unscientific word, "other physicochemical effect" pretty much fits in.</p><p>We do most "tasting" with our olfactory system, not our tongues.</p><p>Clearly these guys are saying, specifically, the tongue can detect fat.</p><p>It's unquestioned that anyone can "taste" fat using their entire physiochemical food-analysis system, if they aren't so enmired in the fast-food culture that they don't know what something without fat tastes like.</p><p>But the question this raises is, can people tell fake fat from real fat?  Are gummy fillers never going to be right until someone finds a way to fake-out these taste receptors?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that the essential problem is that " taste " is a fairly unscientific word , " other physicochemical effect " pretty much fits in.We do most " tasting " with our olfactory system , not our tongues.Clearly these guys are saying , specifically , the tongue can detect fat.It 's unquestioned that anyone can " taste " fat using their entire physiochemical food-analysis system , if they are n't so enmired in the fast-food culture that they do n't know what something without fat tastes like.But the question this raises is , can people tell fake fat from real fat ?
Are gummy fillers never going to be right until someone finds a way to fake-out these taste receptors ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that the essential problem is that "taste" is a fairly unscientific word, "other physicochemical effect" pretty much fits in.We do most "tasting" with our olfactory system, not our tongues.Clearly these guys are saying, specifically, the tongue can detect fat.It's unquestioned that anyone can "taste" fat using their entire physiochemical food-analysis system, if they aren't so enmired in the fast-food culture that they don't know what something without fat tastes like.But the question this raises is, can people tell fake fat from real fat?
Are gummy fillers never going to be right until someone finds a way to fake-out these taste receptors?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31442706</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268340660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>...capsaicin does target specifically mammalian heat sensors, and doesn't work with birds.</i></p><p>This also makes it an excellent squirrel repellent in birdseed. A big 'ole spoonful of Zatarains in with the sunflower seeds makes the squirrels run for the birdbath.<br>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...capsaicin does target specifically mammalian heat sensors , and does n't work with birds.This also makes it an excellent squirrel repellent in birdseed .
A big 'ole spoonful of Zatarains in with the sunflower seeds makes the squirrels run for the birdbath .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>...capsaicin does target specifically mammalian heat sensors, and doesn't work with birds.This also makes it an excellent squirrel repellent in birdseed.
A big 'ole spoonful of Zatarains in with the sunflower seeds makes the squirrels run for the birdbath.
 </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431894</id>
	<title>Re:What about electricity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268219880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was actually a DC post.  I've never seen an AC battery.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was actually a DC post .
I 've never seen an AC battery .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was actually a DC post.
I've never seen an AC battery.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432966</id>
	<title>Evolution</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268227080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Fast food has caused us to evolve enough to be able to taste it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Fast food has caused us to evolve enough to be able to taste it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fast food has caused us to evolve enough to be able to taste it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433336</id>
	<title>Re:Protein?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268229900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Exactly. Just that &ldquo;protein&rdquo; is in no way &ldquo;umami&rdquo;.<br>There actually are people saying that they found separate protein buds. But it&rsquo;s not confirmed, as far as I know.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
Just that    protein    is in no way    umami    .There actually are people saying that they found separate protein buds .
But it    s not confirmed , as far as I know .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
Just that “protein” is in no way “umami”.There actually are people saying that they found separate protein buds.
But it’s not confirmed, as far as I know.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432050</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>RManning</author>
	<datestamp>1268220720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As someone who has gone from obese to quite trim, I can tell you that in my experience obesity is caused by taking in more energy than you burn, period! I cut the amount of calories i take in, and I lose weight. I add calories, I gain. I was never a carb eater, just a "too much" eater. Of course, carbs are really high calorie, so generally cutting calories mean cutting carbs. But, I'm not convinced the type of food is nearly that important.</p><p>That's my long winded way of saying: citation needed.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who has gone from obese to quite trim , I can tell you that in my experience obesity is caused by taking in more energy than you burn , period !
I cut the amount of calories i take in , and I lose weight .
I add calories , I gain .
I was never a carb eater , just a " too much " eater .
Of course , carbs are really high calorie , so generally cutting calories mean cutting carbs .
But , I 'm not convinced the type of food is nearly that important.That 's my long winded way of saying : citation needed .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who has gone from obese to quite trim, I can tell you that in my experience obesity is caused by taking in more energy than you burn, period!
I cut the amount of calories i take in, and I lose weight.
I add calories, I gain.
I was never a carb eater, just a "too much" eater.
Of course, carbs are really high calorie, so generally cutting calories mean cutting carbs.
But, I'm not convinced the type of food is nearly that important.That's my long winded way of saying: citation needed.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433290</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>aXis100</author>
	<datestamp>1268229540000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Personally I think Fat it is more of a texture than a taste.  I can feel a greasy residue in my mouth after drinking full fat milk or real butter, versus low fat milk or margarine.</p><p>The small size of fat globules is what makes things taste creamy - which is why modern low fat ice cream is getting better, they've been able to substitute other compounds with a small grain size.  Any larger and it tastes pastey.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I think Fat it is more of a texture than a taste .
I can feel a greasy residue in my mouth after drinking full fat milk or real butter , versus low fat milk or margarine.The small size of fat globules is what makes things taste creamy - which is why modern low fat ice cream is getting better , they 've been able to substitute other compounds with a small grain size .
Any larger and it tastes pastey .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I think Fat it is more of a texture than a taste.
I can feel a greasy residue in my mouth after drinking full fat milk or real butter, versus low fat milk or margarine.The small size of fat globules is what makes things taste creamy - which is why modern low fat ice cream is getting better, they've been able to substitute other compounds with a small grain size.
Any larger and it tastes pastey.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432064</id>
	<title>Re:Umami vs. Savory</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1268220840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why can't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years: "savory." I just think it's funny is all<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p> </div><p>Because "savory" is not a direct equivalent to "umami."</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years : " savory .
" I just think it 's funny is all : ) Because " savory " is not a direct equivalent to " umami .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years: "savory.
" I just think it's funny is all :) Because "savory" is not a direct equivalent to "umami.
"
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433362</id>
	<title>Re:Protein?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1268230080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except that since umami has nothing to do with protein detection, the third sentence has no relationship to the title.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except that since umami has nothing to do with protein detection , the third sentence has no relationship to the title .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except that since umami has nothing to do with protein detection, the third sentence has no relationship to the title.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434382</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>steveha</author>
	<datestamp>1268240580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><i>Hot is also a bad word for picante since it can also refer to temperature, and when talking about food, we need to differentiate somehow.</i></p><p>According to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jargon\_File" title="wikipedia.org">Jargon File</a> [wikipedia.org], the hacker slang has a term that means the same thing you called picante.  The term is: <a href="http://catb.org/jargon/html/Z/zapped.html" title="catb.org">zapped</a> [catb.org]</p><p>I don't know how common it is, but I have used it for years.  It's a useful distinction to make and deserves a word.</p><p>steveha</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hot is also a bad word for picante since it can also refer to temperature , and when talking about food , we need to differentiate somehow.According to the Jargon File [ wikipedia.org ] , the hacker slang has a term that means the same thing you called picante .
The term is : zapped [ catb.org ] I do n't know how common it is , but I have used it for years .
It 's a useful distinction to make and deserves a word.steveha</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hot is also a bad word for picante since it can also refer to temperature, and when talking about food, we need to differentiate somehow.According to the Jargon File [wikipedia.org], the hacker slang has a term that means the same thing you called picante.
The term is: zapped [catb.org]I don't know how common it is, but I have used it for years.
It's a useful distinction to make and deserves a word.steveha</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431304</id>
	<title>Savory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268217240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The PopSci article I read a couple of years ago named "savory" as one of the taste buds' senses.  Maybe this is the same as fat sense, since nothing fat-free tastes as good as its fat-...not free counterpart.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The PopSci article I read a couple of years ago named " savory " as one of the taste buds ' senses .
Maybe this is the same as fat sense , since nothing fat-free tastes as good as its fat-...not free counterpart .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The PopSci article I read a couple of years ago named "savory" as one of the taste buds' senses.
Maybe this is the same as fat sense, since nothing fat-free tastes as good as its fat-...not free counterpart.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432776</id>
	<title>Daily Mail?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268225640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't you have a better source for something like that than the Daily Mail?</p><p>There aren't many less reputable news sources than them.  Even the National Enquirer gets lucky sometimes (e.g. Edwards' affair).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't you have a better source for something like that than the Daily Mail ? There are n't many less reputable news sources than them .
Even the National Enquirer gets lucky sometimes ( e.g .
Edwards ' affair ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't you have a better source for something like that than the Daily Mail?There aren't many less reputable news sources than them.
Even the National Enquirer gets lucky sometimes (e.g.
Edwards' affair).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433204</id>
	<title>"Logical sense"</title>
	<author>musicalmicah</author>
	<datestamp>1268228820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This makes logical sense</p></div><p>Has anyone ever stumbled upon an idea that made "illogical" sense? Why not just say "This makes sense"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This makes logical senseHas anyone ever stumbled upon an idea that made " illogical " sense ?
Why not just say " This makes sense " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This makes logical senseHas anyone ever stumbled upon an idea that made "illogical" sense?
Why not just say "This makes sense"?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431366</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>mpapet</author>
	<datestamp>1268217540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While your goal of identifying the biologic source of the fat sensors is worthy, human behavior dictates something *must* detect fat content separately from texture.  Food scientists have long been able to replicate the texture and mouth feel of fats.</p><p>A simple experiment, have three anonymous samples of cow's milk, one each full-fat, 2\% and 1\%.  The vast majority of humans enjoy the 1\% the least.<br>You can vary the beverage or food to take into account cultural tendencies and the results are the same.  The lowest fat content is the least popular.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While your goal of identifying the biologic source of the fat sensors is worthy , human behavior dictates something * must * detect fat content separately from texture .
Food scientists have long been able to replicate the texture and mouth feel of fats.A simple experiment , have three anonymous samples of cow 's milk , one each full-fat , 2 \ % and 1 \ % .
The vast majority of humans enjoy the 1 \ % the least.You can vary the beverage or food to take into account cultural tendencies and the results are the same .
The lowest fat content is the least popular .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While your goal of identifying the biologic source of the fat sensors is worthy, human behavior dictates something *must* detect fat content separately from texture.
Food scientists have long been able to replicate the texture and mouth feel of fats.A simple experiment, have three anonymous samples of cow's milk, one each full-fat, 2\% and 1\%.
The vast majority of humans enjoy the 1\% the least.You can vary the beverage or food to take into account cultural tendencies and the results are the same.
The lowest fat content is the least popular.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432696</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>katz</author>
	<datestamp>1268224980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've noticed that if I eat Chinese food after I haven't had any for a long period of time, it often tastes too "rich" for me.  Nothing some more helpings of it over the next two weeks won't cure<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've noticed that if I eat Chinese food after I have n't had any for a long period of time , it often tastes too " rich " for me .
Nothing some more helpings of it over the next two weeks wo n't cure ; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've noticed that if I eat Chinese food after I haven't had any for a long period of time, it often tastes too "rich" for me.
Nothing some more helpings of it over the next two weeks won't cure ;)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432040</id>
	<title>Re:What about electricity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268220660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a perfectly valid point.  I consider our sense of electrical current a different sense, but really.  Most people don't even recognize balance and proprioception.  They have their arbitrary list of 5 and they're sticking to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a perfectly valid point .
I consider our sense of electrical current a different sense , but really .
Most people do n't even recognize balance and proprioception .
They have their arbitrary list of 5 and they 're sticking to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a perfectly valid point.
I consider our sense of electrical current a different sense, but really.
Most people don't even recognize balance and proprioception.
They have their arbitrary list of 5 and they're sticking to it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431916</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>jedidiah</author>
	<datestamp>1268220000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, that's just today's obesity which is an effect of the relatively recent demonization of fat.</p><p>People ran away from fat and there was sort of a nutritional backlash.</p><p>It also didn't help that the inherently unbalanced and politically motivated "new" food pyramid did not account for American eating habits.</p><p>Result: "remove fat, replace with refined carbs and no fiber"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , that 's just today 's obesity which is an effect of the relatively recent demonization of fat.People ran away from fat and there was sort of a nutritional backlash.It also did n't help that the inherently unbalanced and politically motivated " new " food pyramid did not account for American eating habits.Result : " remove fat , replace with refined carbs and no fiber "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, that's just today's obesity which is an effect of the relatively recent demonization of fat.People ran away from fat and there was sort of a nutritional backlash.It also didn't help that the inherently unbalanced and politically motivated "new" food pyramid did not account for American eating habits.Result: "remove fat, replace with refined carbs and no fiber"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31452422</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>brian0918</author>
	<datestamp>1268413260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To convince you otherwise, check out Science journal writer and dietary research analyst Gary Taubes' epic treatise <i> <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/1400033462/ref=sr\_1\_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1268409590&amp;sr=8-1" title="amazon.com">Good Calories, Bad Calories</a> [amazon.com] </i>, which examines the ~150 year history of dietary research on obesity, and concludes that the type of food may be the primary factor.
<br> <br>
He also examines this notion that you can simply reduce the number of calories, and see long-term weight loss. Not only does reducing calories prove nearly impossible in the long-term, simple calorie reduction does not improve heart disease risk factors, which is the primary purpose of reducing obesity. I would be curious what exactly you cut out of your diet, and what your lipid profile looks like (e.g. triglycerides, number of HDL, size of VLDL). Skinny does not automatically mean healthy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>To convince you otherwise , check out Science journal writer and dietary research analyst Gary Taubes ' epic treatise Good Calories , Bad Calories [ amazon.com ] , which examines the ~ 150 year history of dietary research on obesity , and concludes that the type of food may be the primary factor .
He also examines this notion that you can simply reduce the number of calories , and see long-term weight loss .
Not only does reducing calories prove nearly impossible in the long-term , simple calorie reduction does not improve heart disease risk factors , which is the primary purpose of reducing obesity .
I would be curious what exactly you cut out of your diet , and what your lipid profile looks like ( e.g .
triglycerides , number of HDL , size of VLDL ) .
Skinny does not automatically mean healthy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To convince you otherwise, check out Science journal writer and dietary research analyst Gary Taubes' epic treatise  Good Calories, Bad Calories [amazon.com] , which examines the ~150 year history of dietary research on obesity, and concludes that the type of food may be the primary factor.
He also examines this notion that you can simply reduce the number of calories, and see long-term weight loss.
Not only does reducing calories prove nearly impossible in the long-term, simple calorie reduction does not improve heart disease risk factors, which is the primary purpose of reducing obesity.
I would be curious what exactly you cut out of your diet, and what your lipid profile looks like (e.g.
triglycerides, number of HDL, size of VLDL).
Skinny does not automatically mean healthy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434678</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1268244360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh come on, that's ridiculous. Like when I'm reading your post, you're telling me I don't have a special receptor in my eyes for reading the word Mindcontrolled, and another one for the word Just? No way I can see all those different words with just a few kinds of receptors. Same with the tongue, obviously. If they could detect this fat, there must be a fat detector.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh come on , that 's ridiculous .
Like when I 'm reading your post , you 're telling me I do n't have a special receptor in my eyes for reading the word Mindcontrolled , and another one for the word Just ?
No way I can see all those different words with just a few kinds of receptors .
Same with the tongue , obviously .
If they could detect this fat , there must be a fat detector .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh come on, that's ridiculous.
Like when I'm reading your post, you're telling me I don't have a special receptor in my eyes for reading the word Mindcontrolled, and another one for the word Just?
No way I can see all those different words with just a few kinds of receptors.
Same with the tongue, obviously.
If they could detect this fat, there must be a fat detector.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431876</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>HEbGb</author>
	<datestamp>1268219820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're right.  I'd imagine the fault is not with the original paper, it's in the interpretation of this paper by the popular press.  We see this again and again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're right .
I 'd imagine the fault is not with the original paper , it 's in the interpretation of this paper by the popular press .
We see this again and again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're right.
I'd imagine the fault is not with the original paper, it's in the interpretation of this paper by the popular press.
We see this again and again.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431358</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>SirGarlon</author>
	<datestamp>1268217480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Actually, I've noticed that when my wife tries to substitute a low-fat ingredient into her baking, she insists it tastes the same and I can always tell.  Guess which of us has a higher BMI?

Generally my approach is to eat fatty foods less often rather than to eat reduced-fat variants, which just don't satisfy.  Except for Cheez-It crackers.  For some reason the low-fat version of those tastes better.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , I 've noticed that when my wife tries to substitute a low-fat ingredient into her baking , she insists it tastes the same and I can always tell .
Guess which of us has a higher BMI ?
Generally my approach is to eat fatty foods less often rather than to eat reduced-fat variants , which just do n't satisfy .
Except for Cheez-It crackers .
For some reason the low-fat version of those tastes better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, I've noticed that when my wife tries to substitute a low-fat ingredient into her baking, she insists it tastes the same and I can always tell.
Guess which of us has a higher BMI?
Generally my approach is to eat fatty foods less often rather than to eat reduced-fat variants, which just don't satisfy.
Except for Cheez-It crackers.
For some reason the low-fat version of those tastes better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431552</id>
	<title>Well duh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268218380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm anosmic (I have no sense of smell) and constantly have to explain that I can taste more than just salty, sour, bitter, sweet, to people. There's variations on each, as well as protein and fat. I'm fairly certain there's a few other flavors that they haven't figured out as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm anosmic ( I have no sense of smell ) and constantly have to explain that I can taste more than just salty , sour , bitter , sweet , to people .
There 's variations on each , as well as protein and fat .
I 'm fairly certain there 's a few other flavors that they have n't figured out as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm anosmic (I have no sense of smell) and constantly have to explain that I can taste more than just salty, sour, bitter, sweet, to people.
There's variations on each, as well as protein and fat.
I'm fairly certain there's a few other flavors that they haven't figured out as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432620</id>
	<title>Re:Umami vs. Savory</title>
	<author>canajin56</author>
	<datestamp>1268224380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because we used "savory" to mean "pleasing" which describes all kinds of good things.  Unless you're European, in which case you mean "savoury" as in the course that follows pudding, usually pickled fish, toasts, or brandied fruits, few-to-none of which are "savory" like you're trying to twist and bastardize the word into meaning.  We've not ever referred to glutamates as "savory".  If we've ever referred to a specific taste as the "savory" taste, it's been aromatic herbs, not glutamates.  PS "savory" comes from French, so funny that you're all anti-Japanese (even implying he lied by saying he "supposedly" discovered the taste receptors) when the word you want to use isn't even ENGLISH ORIGINALLY.  Some bastards started using it 800 years ago when they discovered there wasn't a word for it, but the French had one!  Heaven forbid we do that again.  Nosir, gotta protect the language, NO NEW WORDS.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because we used " savory " to mean " pleasing " which describes all kinds of good things .
Unless you 're European , in which case you mean " savoury " as in the course that follows pudding , usually pickled fish , toasts , or brandied fruits , few-to-none of which are " savory " like you 're trying to twist and bastardize the word into meaning .
We 've not ever referred to glutamates as " savory " .
If we 've ever referred to a specific taste as the " savory " taste , it 's been aromatic herbs , not glutamates .
PS " savory " comes from French , so funny that you 're all anti-Japanese ( even implying he lied by saying he " supposedly " discovered the taste receptors ) when the word you want to use is n't even ENGLISH ORIGINALLY .
Some bastards started using it 800 years ago when they discovered there was n't a word for it , but the French had one !
Heaven forbid we do that again .
Nosir , got ta protect the language , NO NEW WORDS .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because we used "savory" to mean "pleasing" which describes all kinds of good things.
Unless you're European, in which case you mean "savoury" as in the course that follows pudding, usually pickled fish, toasts, or brandied fruits, few-to-none of which are "savory" like you're trying to twist and bastardize the word into meaning.
We've not ever referred to glutamates as "savory".
If we've ever referred to a specific taste as the "savory" taste, it's been aromatic herbs, not glutamates.
PS "savory" comes from French, so funny that you're all anti-Japanese (even implying he lied by saying he "supposedly" discovered the taste receptors) when the word you want to use isn't even ENGLISH ORIGINALLY.
Some bastards started using it 800 years ago when they discovered there wasn't a word for it, but the French had one!
Heaven forbid we do that again.
Nosir, gotta protect the language, NO NEW WORDS.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431988</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>gtbritishskull</author>
	<datestamp>1268220420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistance</p></div><p>The main point of the study is that there seems to be a correlation between obesity and a person's ability to taste fat.  You blatantly contradict this with your post.  Would you care to cite your sources?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistanceThe main point of the study is that there seems to be a correlation between obesity and a person 's ability to taste fat .
You blatantly contradict this with your post .
Would you care to cite your sources ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except of course that most obesity is caused by insulin resistanceThe main point of the study is that there seems to be a correlation between obesity and a person's ability to taste fat.
You blatantly contradict this with your post.
Would you care to cite your sources?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431664</id>
	<title>Umami vs. Savory</title>
	<author>cromar</author>
	<datestamp>1268218860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It kind of gets me that we use the word "umami" to describe the (supposedly) newly found taste of proteins (glutamates, etc.)  Why can't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years: "savory."  I just think it's funny is all<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)  <br> <br>Come to think of it, though, maybe it is just this way in America.  It seems like we went through a culinary dark ages for a half century, or so, not everywhere, but in a lot of kitchens.  Maybe it was the Great Depression or the advent of packaged food... anyway, maybe the flavor fell out of the popular consciousness enough to make us forget about the flavor entirely!  But then there's MSG, so I don't know.  A very poor substitute for natural glutamates like those found in cheese, Chicken Marsala, parsley, etc.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It kind of gets me that we use the word " umami " to describe the ( supposedly ) newly found taste of proteins ( glutamates , etc .
) Why ca n't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years : " savory .
" I just think it 's funny is all : ) Come to think of it , though , maybe it is just this way in America .
It seems like we went through a culinary dark ages for a half century , or so , not everywhere , but in a lot of kitchens .
Maybe it was the Great Depression or the advent of packaged food... anyway , maybe the flavor fell out of the popular consciousness enough to make us forget about the flavor entirely !
But then there 's MSG , so I do n't know .
A very poor substitute for natural glutamates like those found in cheese , Chicken Marsala , parsley , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It kind of gets me that we use the word "umami" to describe the (supposedly) newly found taste of proteins (glutamates, etc.
)  Why can't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years: "savory.
"  I just think it's funny is all :)   Come to think of it, though, maybe it is just this way in America.
It seems like we went through a culinary dark ages for a half century, or so, not everywhere, but in a lot of kitchens.
Maybe it was the Great Depression or the advent of packaged food... anyway, maybe the flavor fell out of the popular consciousness enough to make us forget about the flavor entirely!
But then there's MSG, so I don't know.
A very poor substitute for natural glutamates like those found in cheese, Chicken Marsala, parsley, etc.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431348</id>
	<title>taste vs smell</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268217420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>most of what we think we are tasting, we are actually smelling.</p><p>are we sure we aren't really just smelling the fat and protein?</p><p>last I heard, there really were only 4 tastes. they keep bending the rules to get all the other flavors in there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>most of what we think we are tasting , we are actually smelling.are we sure we are n't really just smelling the fat and protein ? last I heard , there really were only 4 tastes .
they keep bending the rules to get all the other flavors in there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>most of what we think we are tasting, we are actually smelling.are we sure we aren't really just smelling the fat and protein?last I heard, there really were only 4 tastes.
they keep bending the rules to get all the other flavors in there?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434448</id>
	<title>Re:Umami vs. Savory</title>
	<author>cromar</author>
	<datestamp>1268241480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude, chill out.  You read way too much into what I posted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , chill out .
You read way too much into what I posted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, chill out.
You read way too much into what I posted.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31436662</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>wjousts</author>
	<datestamp>1268317440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We do most "tasting" with our olfactory system, not our tongues.</p></div><p>The tongue has specific receptors on the tongue, collected together in taste buds, that detect sweet, salty, sour, bitter and umami (and, maybe, fat). That is the sensation that is, scientifically, correctly called taste. </p><p>It's complicated because what most people call taste, isn't purely taste. A large part (most even) of what most people call taste, is actually smell and then there are other trigeminal sensations such as texture, temperature, etc.</p><p>The whole sensory gestalt of popping something into your mouth is hugely complex and not completely understood.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We do most " tasting " with our olfactory system , not our tongues.The tongue has specific receptors on the tongue , collected together in taste buds , that detect sweet , salty , sour , bitter and umami ( and , maybe , fat ) .
That is the sensation that is , scientifically , correctly called taste .
It 's complicated because what most people call taste , is n't purely taste .
A large part ( most even ) of what most people call taste , is actually smell and then there are other trigeminal sensations such as texture , temperature , etc.The whole sensory gestalt of popping something into your mouth is hugely complex and not completely understood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We do most "tasting" with our olfactory system, not our tongues.The tongue has specific receptors on the tongue, collected together in taste buds, that detect sweet, salty, sour, bitter and umami (and, maybe, fat).
That is the sensation that is, scientifically, correctly called taste.
It's complicated because what most people call taste, isn't purely taste.
A large part (most even) of what most people call taste, is actually smell and then there are other trigeminal sensations such as texture, temperature, etc.The whole sensory gestalt of popping something into your mouth is hugely complex and not completely understood.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31435624</id>
	<title>Re:Umami vs. Savory</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1268301300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Why can't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years: "savory."</p></div><p>My understanding is that we scientists convinced us westerners that because we hadn't found evidence that "savory" existed, it didn't exist.  I guess the Japanese ignored the scientists telling them that their miso soup wasn't a unique flavor, it was a combination of other senses, stubbornly insisted that they could taste umami, and then turned out to be right.  So I would submit that we should call it umami if for no other reason that we gave up our concept of savory wheras the Japanese kept theirs.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ca n't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years : " savory .
" My understanding is that we scientists convinced us westerners that because we had n't found evidence that " savory " existed , it did n't exist .
I guess the Japanese ignored the scientists telling them that their miso soup was n't a unique flavor , it was a combination of other senses , stubbornly insisted that they could taste umami , and then turned out to be right .
So I would submit that we should call it umami if for no other reason that we gave up our concept of savory wheras the Japanese kept theirs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why can't we anglophones just keep calling that sensation the same as we have for hundreds of years: "savory.
"My understanding is that we scientists convinced us westerners that because we hadn't found evidence that "savory" existed, it didn't exist.
I guess the Japanese ignored the scientists telling them that their miso soup wasn't a unique flavor, it was a combination of other senses, stubbornly insisted that they could taste umami, and then turned out to be right.
So I would submit that we should call it umami if for no other reason that we gave up our concept of savory wheras the Japanese kept theirs.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431192</id>
	<title>Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268216700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just the fact that people can detect fatty acids in their non-fat milk doesn't imply that there is an actually taste receptor for fat. Could also be the change of texture of the milk or activation of other taste receptors by the fatty acids. I would only call this a specific taste when the associated taste receptor protein is identified.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just the fact that people can detect fatty acids in their non-fat milk does n't imply that there is an actually taste receptor for fat .
Could also be the change of texture of the milk or activation of other taste receptors by the fatty acids .
I would only call this a specific taste when the associated taste receptor protein is identified .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just the fact that people can detect fatty acids in their non-fat milk doesn't imply that there is an actually taste receptor for fat.
Could also be the change of texture of the milk or activation of other taste receptors by the fatty acids.
I would only call this a specific taste when the associated taste receptor protein is identified.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31435502</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1268299140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That will probably be the next finding.  It seems unreasonable to me to demand someone show you not only the phenomenon but the specific mechanism by which it happens all at the same time.  For one thing, why would one be looking for a fat taste receptor prior to the discovery that we could taste fat?</p><p>Researcher: "I'm applying for a grant to identify the taste receptor for fat!"<br>Reviewer: "Wait... we can taste fat specifically?"<br>Researcher: "Sure, maybe!  I don't know!"<br>Reviewer: "So you're wanting to look for a protein, and you have absolutely no evidence it exists?  How are you going to look for it?"<br>Researcher: "Look, these are good questions, questions I will answer in later studies after I find the fat taste receptor.  It will be a whole lot easier to answer the question 'Can you taste fat specifically' once we've found the protein that does it."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That will probably be the next finding .
It seems unreasonable to me to demand someone show you not only the phenomenon but the specific mechanism by which it happens all at the same time .
For one thing , why would one be looking for a fat taste receptor prior to the discovery that we could taste fat ? Researcher : " I 'm applying for a grant to identify the taste receptor for fat !
" Reviewer : " Wait... we can taste fat specifically ?
" Researcher : " Sure , maybe !
I do n't know !
" Reviewer : " So you 're wanting to look for a protein , and you have absolutely no evidence it exists ?
How are you going to look for it ?
" Researcher : " Look , these are good questions , questions I will answer in later studies after I find the fat taste receptor .
It will be a whole lot easier to answer the question 'Can you taste fat specifically ' once we 've found the protein that does it .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That will probably be the next finding.
It seems unreasonable to me to demand someone show you not only the phenomenon but the specific mechanism by which it happens all at the same time.
For one thing, why would one be looking for a fat taste receptor prior to the discovery that we could taste fat?Researcher: "I'm applying for a grant to identify the taste receptor for fat!
"Reviewer: "Wait... we can taste fat specifically?
"Researcher: "Sure, maybe!
I don't know!
"Reviewer: "So you're wanting to look for a protein, and you have absolutely no evidence it exists?
How are you going to look for it?
"Researcher: "Look, these are good questions, questions I will answer in later studies after I find the fat taste receptor.
It will be a whole lot easier to answer the question 'Can you taste fat specifically' once we've found the protein that does it.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431214</id>
	<title>the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>OlRickDawson</author>
	<datestamp>1268216880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There is the <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1047394/Discovery-calcium-taste-bud-help-scientists-prevent-osteoporosis.html" title="dailymail.co.uk" rel="nofollow">Calcium</a> [dailymail.co.uk](www.dailymail.co.uk) taste buds which were not listed, and I'm sure there have been others discovered.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is the Calcium [ dailymail.co.uk ] ( www.dailymail.co.uk ) taste buds which were not listed , and I 'm sure there have been others discovered .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is the Calcium [dailymail.co.uk](www.dailymail.co.uk) taste buds which were not listed, and I'm sure there have been others discovered.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433084</id>
	<title>Re:What about electricity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268228160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>yeah, what moron  put the terminals of car and deep cycle marine batteries so far apart?  have to use a damn meter then.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , what moron put the terminals of car and deep cycle marine batteries so far apart ?
have to use a damn meter then .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, what moron  put the terminals of car and deep cycle marine batteries so far apart?
have to use a damn meter then.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431848</id>
	<title>Re:What about electricity?</title>
	<author>trentfoley</author>
	<datestamp>1268219700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sure the poster would have chosen DC had it been an option.  AC was the closest possibility.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sure the poster would have chosen DC had it been an option .
AC was the closest possibility .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sure the poster would have chosen DC had it been an option.
AC was the closest possibility.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431266</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268217060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>"mixed in with nonfat milk to disguise the telltale fat texture"<br> <br>
Perhaps you missed that part of the summary (let alone TFA).</htmltext>
<tokenext>" mixed in with nonfat milk to disguise the telltale fat texture " Perhaps you missed that part of the summary ( let alone TFA ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"mixed in with nonfat milk to disguise the telltale fat texture" 
Perhaps you missed that part of the summary (let alone TFA).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432916</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268226720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>By that same point there is no protein (Umami) then either.  Your tongue has only four specialized receptor cells.  Salty (which is activated by direct transfer of Na ions across the plasma lemma), Sour (which is based on H ions directly crossing the plasma lemma), Sweet (which is receptor meditated and uses 2nd messenger system inside the cell), and lastly Bitter (which is also based on cell surface receptors).</p><p>While Umami has been recognized by Asia for centuries, it is a new addition to Western A&amp;P it is based on detection of glutamate, but does not have specialized receptors.  Current belief is it activates a combination of the other four, and that specific combination is "associated" with protein through learning.  Which is probably how fats would work (if it's not actually texture based like most believe).  Either way though from a strictly A&amp;P perspective neither is an actual taste itself because they don't have their own specific receptors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>By that same point there is no protein ( Umami ) then either .
Your tongue has only four specialized receptor cells .
Salty ( which is activated by direct transfer of Na ions across the plasma lemma ) , Sour ( which is based on H ions directly crossing the plasma lemma ) , Sweet ( which is receptor meditated and uses 2nd messenger system inside the cell ) , and lastly Bitter ( which is also based on cell surface receptors ) .While Umami has been recognized by Asia for centuries , it is a new addition to Western A&amp;P it is based on detection of glutamate , but does not have specialized receptors .
Current belief is it activates a combination of the other four , and that specific combination is " associated " with protein through learning .
Which is probably how fats would work ( if it 's not actually texture based like most believe ) .
Either way though from a strictly A&amp;P perspective neither is an actual taste itself because they do n't have their own specific receptors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>By that same point there is no protein (Umami) then either.
Your tongue has only four specialized receptor cells.
Salty (which is activated by direct transfer of Na ions across the plasma lemma), Sour (which is based on H ions directly crossing the plasma lemma), Sweet (which is receptor meditated and uses 2nd messenger system inside the cell), and lastly Bitter (which is also based on cell surface receptors).While Umami has been recognized by Asia for centuries, it is a new addition to Western A&amp;P it is based on detection of glutamate, but does not have specialized receptors.
Current belief is it activates a combination of the other four, and that specific combination is "associated" with protein through learning.
Which is probably how fats would work (if it's not actually texture based like most believe).
Either way though from a strictly A&amp;P perspective neither is an actual taste itself because they don't have their own specific receptors.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431984</id>
	<title>Fat is PHAT!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268220360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who can't taste fat?  What's up with that?  Tons better than scat, fat is where it's at! Fat a tat tat!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who ca n't taste fat ?
What 's up with that ?
Tons better than scat , fat is where it 's at !
Fat a tat tat !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who can't taste fat?
What's up with that?
Tons better than scat, fat is where it's at!
Fat a tat tat!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433054</id>
	<title>Re:What about electricity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268227920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, it should've been a DC post...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , it should 've been a DC post.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, it should've been a DC post...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431588</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>spun</author>
	<datestamp>1268218440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Many flavors are soluble in fat, but not water. When creating low fat versions of high fat dishes, you must always adjust the seasoning to account for this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Many flavors are soluble in fat , but not water .
When creating low fat versions of high fat dishes , you must always adjust the seasoning to account for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Many flavors are soluble in fat, but not water.
When creating low fat versions of high fat dishes, you must always adjust the seasoning to account for this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434554</id>
	<title>Missed out</title>
	<author>bakdor</author>
	<datestamp>1268242560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Deakin is right over my back fence - they could have invited me over to their little dinner party. Snobs.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Deakin is right over my back fence - they could have invited me over to their little dinner party .
Snobs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Deakin is right over my back fence - they could have invited me over to their little dinner party.
Snobs.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31449998</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>OrangeCatholic</author>
	<datestamp>1268396820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor!</p><p>IT'S CALLED CAPSAICIN. C18H27NO3</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor ! IT 'S CALLED CAPSAICIN .
C18H27NO3</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor!IT'S CALLED CAPSAICIN.
C18H27NO3</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432440</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>Xtravar</author>
	<datestamp>1268223240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>&lt;quote&gt;PS It &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; very annoying when you want to describe picante foods and you lose nuance of meaning because of the overlap between hot and spicy.  Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor!&lt;/quote&gt;<br><br>What about... "zippy"?  It's an English word, and it makes you seem like a senior citizen!</div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>PS It is very annoying when you want to describe picante foods and you lose nuance of meaning because of the overlap between hot and spicy .
Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor ! What about... " zippy " ? It 's an English word , and it makes you seem like a senior citizen !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PS It is very annoying when you want to describe picante foods and you lose nuance of meaning because of the overlap between hot and spicy.
Thanks for pointing out a better word to use to describe that flavor!What about... "zippy"?  It's an English word, and it makes you seem like a senior citizen!
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31435402</id>
	<title>moments not minutes</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268298000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>chumps</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>chumps</tokentext>
<sentencetext>chumps</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431986</id>
	<title>Re:but why?</title>
	<author>BlueParrot</author>
	<datestamp>1268220420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>with all these different taste receptors, why can't i taste my own tongue?</p></div></blockquote><p>You probably do to some extent, but since it is always there your brain doesn't consider it special. An interesting question might be whether you can taste another person tongue, and I guess I should mention just how daft the joke about slashdotters romantic achievements is, before somebody decides to make it in response to my post</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>with all these different taste receptors , why ca n't i taste my own tongue ? You probably do to some extent , but since it is always there your brain does n't consider it special .
An interesting question might be whether you can taste another person tongue , and I guess I should mention just how daft the joke about slashdotters romantic achievements is , before somebody decides to make it in response to my post</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with all these different taste receptors, why can't i taste my own tongue?You probably do to some extent, but since it is always there your brain doesn't consider it special.
An interesting question might be whether you can taste another person tongue, and I guess I should mention just how daft the joke about slashdotters romantic achievements is, before somebody decides to make it in response to my post
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431232</id>
	<title>Protein?</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1268216940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It took me a few moments that by "protein" they actually mean the so-called "fifth flavor" often referred to by the Japanese word <i>umami</i> "savory".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It took me a few moments that by " protein " they actually mean the so-called " fifth flavor " often referred to by the Japanese word umami " savory " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It took me a few moments that by "protein" they actually mean the so-called "fifth flavor" often referred to by the Japanese word umami "savory".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434432</id>
	<title>Re:the Calcium taste buds weren't listed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268241300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why do you suggest that the GP was mistaken, then pretty much confirm what he said? Or do you just mean "mistaken" in the overly-pedantic, I-like-telling-people-they're-wrong sort of way?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do you suggest that the GP was mistaken , then pretty much confirm what he said ?
Or do you just mean " mistaken " in the overly-pedantic , I-like-telling-people-they 're-wrong sort of way ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do you suggest that the GP was mistaken, then pretty much confirm what he said?
Or do you just mean "mistaken" in the overly-pedantic, I-like-telling-people-they're-wrong sort of way?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431462</id>
	<title>Re:Savory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268218020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, the savory taste is called umami. It's caused by detecting glutamates (like MSG). This is something different.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , the savory taste is called umami .
It 's caused by detecting glutamates ( like MSG ) .
This is something different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, the savory taste is called umami.
It's caused by detecting glutamates (like MSG).
This is something different.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31445216</id>
	<title>Not Chipotle? :-(</title>
	<author>Ignatius D'Lusional</author>
	<datestamp>1268305440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Aw man... and here I've been trying to convince people that Chipotle is the new Umami!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Aw man... and here I 've been trying to convince people that Chipotle is the new Umami !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Aw man... and here I've been trying to convince people that Chipotle is the new Umami!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431236</id>
	<title>There's something else</title>
	<author>Misanthrope</author>
	<datestamp>1268217000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the summary doesn't mention is that the BMIs of the sample group were inversely proportional to their ability to sense fat.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the summary does n't mention is that the BMIs of the sample group were inversely proportional to their ability to sense fat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the summary doesn't mention is that the BMIs of the sample group were inversely proportional to their ability to sense fat.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431362</id>
	<title>Re:Protein?</title>
	<author>amRadioHed</author>
	<datestamp>1268217540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You mean it took you a few minutes to get to the third sentence in the summary where it said just that?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean it took you a few minutes to get to the third sentence in the summary where it said just that ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean it took you a few minutes to get to the third sentence in the summary where it said just that?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434136</id>
	<title>Re:Umami vs. Savory</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268238120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>French does have the advantage of being another Latin based language like English is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>French does have the advantage of being another Latin based language like English is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>French does have the advantage of being another Latin based language like English is.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31432884</id>
	<title>what a surprise</title>
	<author>newdsfornerds</author>
	<datestamp>1268226480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I can taste fat chicks in party hats from a mile away.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I can taste fat chicks in party hats from a mile away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can taste fat chicks in party hats from a mile away.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31433016</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>CorporateSuit</author>
	<datestamp>1268227440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could this explain why real butter and fake butter taste so much different to me?  Growing up, I never noticed the difference.  Then, for a few years, it tasted kind of like real butter has onions and garlic in it.  It was to the point where I couldn't eat popcorn if the theater used real butter.  I couldn't eat toast if it had real butter.  <b>It left a taste in my mouth similar to if I had gone out and licked a homeless person.</b>  It wasn't psychosomatic or texture-based.  Up to that point, I would always pick real butter where it was available.  During those years, however, I shamefacedly had to ask "Do you also offer a vegetable-spread or margarine?" Now, I've reverted back to where I can once again enjoy all butters (real or fake), but I can still determine whether it's real (dairy-based) or not by taste alone.  It wasn't dairy aversion, because I always drink whole milk with any given breakfast.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could this explain why real butter and fake butter taste so much different to me ?
Growing up , I never noticed the difference .
Then , for a few years , it tasted kind of like real butter has onions and garlic in it .
It was to the point where I could n't eat popcorn if the theater used real butter .
I could n't eat toast if it had real butter .
It left a taste in my mouth similar to if I had gone out and licked a homeless person .
It was n't psychosomatic or texture-based .
Up to that point , I would always pick real butter where it was available .
During those years , however , I shamefacedly had to ask " Do you also offer a vegetable-spread or margarine ?
" Now , I 've reverted back to where I can once again enjoy all butters ( real or fake ) , but I can still determine whether it 's real ( dairy-based ) or not by taste alone .
It was n't dairy aversion , because I always drink whole milk with any given breakfast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could this explain why real butter and fake butter taste so much different to me?
Growing up, I never noticed the difference.
Then, for a few years, it tasted kind of like real butter has onions and garlic in it.
It was to the point where I couldn't eat popcorn if the theater used real butter.
I couldn't eat toast if it had real butter.
It left a taste in my mouth similar to if I had gone out and licked a homeless person.
It wasn't psychosomatic or texture-based.
Up to that point, I would always pick real butter where it was available.
During those years, however, I shamefacedly had to ask "Do you also offer a vegetable-spread or margarine?
" Now, I've reverted back to where I can once again enjoy all butters (real or fake), but I can still determine whether it's real (dairy-based) or not by taste alone.
It wasn't dairy aversion, because I always drink whole milk with any given breakfast.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31434388</id>
	<title>Re:There's something else</title>
	<author>Belial6</author>
	<datestamp>1268240760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bingo.  Of course "obese" is a worthless word at this point.  It as been solidly linked to BMI which is a total joke.  Heck, I was "obese" just this last weekend, yet somehow you could see every muscle of my ripped legs, and the majority of my stomach muscles.  Just to show how stupid BMI and the new definition of "obese" is, <a href="http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/schwarzenegger.html" title="schwarzenegger.it">here is what obese can look like.</a> [schwarzenegger.it]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bingo .
Of course " obese " is a worthless word at this point .
It as been solidly linked to BMI which is a total joke .
Heck , I was " obese " just this last weekend , yet somehow you could see every muscle of my ripped legs , and the majority of my stomach muscles .
Just to show how stupid BMI and the new definition of " obese " is , here is what obese can look like .
[ schwarzenegger.it ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bingo.
Of course "obese" is a worthless word at this point.
It as been solidly linked to BMI which is a total joke.
Heck, I was "obese" just this last weekend, yet somehow you could see every muscle of my ripped legs, and the majority of my stomach muscles.
Just to show how stupid BMI and the new definition of "obese" is, here is what obese can look like.
[schwarzenegger.it]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431278</id>
	<title>What about electricity?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268217120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know... for when you're testing 9 volt batteries.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know... for when you 're testing 9 volt batteries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know... for when you're testing 9 volt batteries.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31436086</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1268309160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...there's the "electric taste" too. There are no taste receptors for it, it's the current that triggers all kinds of receptors (taste, touch, cold, hot) simultaneously.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...there 's the " electric taste " too .
There are no taste receptors for it , it 's the current that triggers all kinds of receptors ( taste , touch , cold , hot ) simultaneously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...there's the "electric taste" too.
There are no taste receptors for it, it's the current that triggers all kinds of receptors (taste, touch, cold, hot) simultaneously.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_10_2114204.31431426</id>
	<title>Re:Show me the receptors</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268217840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>So I've only read the abstract of the <a href="http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&amp;aid=7311680&amp;fulltextType=RA&amp;fileId=S0007114510000267ER" title="cambridge.org">paper</a> [cambridge.org] and they really don't claim that fat is "tasted", just that some people are able to detect it and they link that ability to BMI. Whether they are really tasting or just detecting some other physicochemical effect is still unclear. There are a lot of different senses involved when you put something in your mouth. There is a lot of evidence that suggests that fat is a taste, but so far nobody has presented a receptor for it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>So I 've only read the abstract of the paper [ cambridge.org ] and they really do n't claim that fat is " tasted " , just that some people are able to detect it and they link that ability to BMI .
Whether they are really tasting or just detecting some other physicochemical effect is still unclear .
There are a lot of different senses involved when you put something in your mouth .
There is a lot of evidence that suggests that fat is a taste , but so far nobody has presented a receptor for it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I've only read the abstract of the paper [cambridge.org] and they really don't claim that fat is "tasted", just that some people are able to detect it and they link that ability to BMI.
Whether they are really tasting or just detecting some other physicochemical effect is still unclear.
There are a lot of different senses involved when you put something in your mouth.
There is a lot of evidence that suggests that fat is a taste, but so far nobody has presented a receptor for it.</sentencetext>
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