<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_09_2054220</id>
	<title>Dot-Com Craze Peaked 10 Years Ago This Week</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1268126520000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>netbuzz writes <i>"When the NASDAQ stock index hit its all-time high of 5,133 on March 10, 2000, it had more than doubled in a year and the dot-com bubble was already leaking in a big way. A week later the NASDAQ had fallen 9 percent. A year later it was below 2000. Gone were such poster children of the era as Pets.com, Kozmo, and &mdash; who could forget? &mdash; Whoopi Goldberg's Flooz. <a href="http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/58280">Here's a look back</a>."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>netbuzz writes " When the NASDAQ stock index hit its all-time high of 5,133 on March 10 , 2000 , it had more than doubled in a year and the dot-com bubble was already leaking in a big way .
A week later the NASDAQ had fallen 9 percent .
A year later it was below 2000 .
Gone were such poster children of the era as Pets.com , Kozmo , and    who could forget ?
   Whoopi Goldberg 's Flooz .
Here 's a look back .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>netbuzz writes "When the NASDAQ stock index hit its all-time high of 5,133 on March 10, 2000, it had more than doubled in a year and the dot-com bubble was already leaking in a big way.
A week later the NASDAQ had fallen 9 percent.
A year later it was below 2000.
Gone were such poster children of the era as Pets.com, Kozmo, and — who could forget?
— Whoopi Goldberg's Flooz.
Here's a look back.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420116</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>operagost</author>
	<datestamp>1268133720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> <tt>Basically, after the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.bomb, the only people left were the good ones.</tt></p></div> </blockquote><p>HAHAHA <a href="http://thedailywtf.com/" title="thedailywtf.com" rel="nofollow">no...</a> [thedailywtf.com]</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Basically , after the .bomb , the only people left were the good ones .
HAHAHA no... [ thedailywtf.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Basically, after the .bomb, the only people left were the good ones.
HAHAHA no... [thedailywtf.com]
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31423152</id>
	<title>It was the only time period in the last 50 years..</title>
	<author>ub3r n3u7r4l1st</author>
	<datestamp>1268157480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>where the U.S. government posted a budget surplus.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>where the U.S. government posted a budget surplus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>where the U.S. government posted a budget surplus.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419448</id>
	<title>I did...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I forgot Whoopi Goldberg's Flooz until now</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I forgot Whoopi Goldberg 's Flooz until now</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I forgot Whoopi Goldberg's Flooz until now</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419798</id>
	<title>Re:Where were YOU when the bomb dropped?</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1268132100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's what you get for slacking and not coming in on weekends.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's what you get for slacking and not coming in on weekends .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's what you get for slacking and not coming in on weekends.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421254</id>
	<title>The dot bombed killed my Arcade investment!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268139960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do miss those days! Late 90's... 30-somethings were getting ST00Pid money from investors and spending it on shit like classic arcade games. Galaga, Ms Pacman,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... they easily sold for $1600 each.  Now... I'm sitting on a Missile Command I can't even unload for $400. Other collectors are selling machines for half what they have into them (repairs/restoration costs).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do miss those days !
Late 90 's... 30-somethings were getting ST00Pid money from investors and spending it on shit like classic arcade games .
Galaga , Ms Pacman , ... they easily sold for $ 1600 each .
Now... I 'm sitting on a Missile Command I ca n't even unload for $ 400 .
Other collectors are selling machines for half what they have into them ( repairs/restoration costs ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do miss those days!
Late 90's... 30-somethings were getting ST00Pid money from investors and spending it on shit like classic arcade games.
Galaga, Ms Pacman, ... they easily sold for $1600 each.
Now... I'm sitting on a Missile Command I can't even unload for $400.
Other collectors are selling machines for half what they have into them (repairs/restoration costs).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419980</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1268133120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yup, and we'll do it again.</p><p>The response to every one of your excellent points with..</p><p>"With greater risks come greater rewards."</p><p>And what better way to risk than by breaking the law?  The government will reward you by bailing your ass out!  As long as you're still rich.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yup , and we 'll do it again.The response to every one of your excellent points with.. " With greater risks come greater rewards .
" And what better way to risk than by breaking the law ?
The government will reward you by bailing your ass out !
As long as you 're still rich .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yup, and we'll do it again.The response to every one of your excellent points with.."With greater risks come greater rewards.
"And what better way to risk than by breaking the law?
The government will reward you by bailing your ass out!
As long as you're still rich.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419670</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419600</id>
	<title>Where were YOU when the bomb dropped?</title>
	<author>greywire</author>
	<datestamp>1268131260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah it was good times.  I was making more money than I had ever made, we had catered lunches in the office every day, and we got to go to events at the beach (it was an "extreme sports" website).</p><p>And then come monday we are told not to even report to work and that we'd be turned away if we did.  Nice!  Guess they thought we would loot the office or something.  I wouldn't have minded taking one of those $500 Aeron chairs home...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah it was good times .
I was making more money than I had ever made , we had catered lunches in the office every day , and we got to go to events at the beach ( it was an " extreme sports " website ) .And then come monday we are told not to even report to work and that we 'd be turned away if we did .
Nice ! Guess they thought we would loot the office or something .
I would n't have minded taking one of those $ 500 Aeron chairs home.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah it was good times.
I was making more money than I had ever made, we had catered lunches in the office every day, and we got to go to events at the beach (it was an "extreme sports" website).And then come monday we are told not to even report to work and that we'd be turned away if we did.
Nice!  Guess they thought we would loot the office or something.
I wouldn't have minded taking one of those $500 Aeron chairs home...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419876</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>cytoman</author>
	<datestamp>1268132460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This damn thread is bringing back all my deep and buried nightmarish memories - I lost of huge amount of money buying things at cyberrebate.com . Do you guys remember that company? Pay an insane amount of money upfront and get it all back as rebate a few months later - it worked well for the first few things I bought and then, when I went all in for the big ticket items, the company went under.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This damn thread is bringing back all my deep and buried nightmarish memories - I lost of huge amount of money buying things at cyberrebate.com .
Do you guys remember that company ?
Pay an insane amount of money upfront and get it all back as rebate a few months later - it worked well for the first few things I bought and then , when I went all in for the big ticket items , the company went under .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This damn thread is bringing back all my deep and buried nightmarish memories - I lost of huge amount of money buying things at cyberrebate.com .
Do you guys remember that company?
Pay an insane amount of money upfront and get it all back as rebate a few months later - it worked well for the first few things I bought and then, when I went all in for the big ticket items, the company went under.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419550</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31422262</id>
	<title>Re:Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>gibson123</author>
	<datestamp>1268148480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep, I remember going to meetings @ Doubleclick, they had just moved into their new building.  People were starting companies w/ an idea and some funding...it was great, until reality knocked the door down.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , I remember going to meetings @ Doubleclick , they had just moved into their new building .
People were starting companies w/ an idea and some funding...it was great , until reality knocked the door down .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, I remember going to meetings @ Doubleclick, they had just moved into their new building.
People were starting companies w/ an idea and some funding...it was great, until reality knocked the door down.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419408</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421730</id>
	<title>Good times, good times...</title>
	<author>Wiseazz</author>
	<datestamp>1268143320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*sniff*  Makes me want to pull out my stack of worthless stock options and wipe my ass with them, as I always said I would do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* sniff * Makes me want to pull out my stack of worthless stock options and wipe my ass with them , as I always said I would do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*sniff*  Makes me want to pull out my stack of worthless stock options and wipe my ass with them, as I always said I would do.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420144</id>
	<title>What about Mirror Image Internet?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268133840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmm.  No mention of Mirror-Image Internet?<br> <br>

The parent company, Excelera.com took some $860 million out of the stock market after a $2 million investment.  After their stock went from $1.40, through 3 or 4 splits, up to $142 (or thereabouts), based solely on the expectations for Mirror Image, the owners (Venture Capitalists) started selling like it was going out of style.  Shortly afterward, the plummet started, and within 3 months that same stock was going for less than $40.  6 months later, Mirror Image was put through a 100,000 to 1 reverse split (still private stock), and all employees below the VP level were left with worthless stock option agreements.  Even the VPs would never get right side up on their options.<br> <br>

Employees that were with MII when Excelera bought them were given Excelera options - or the promise of Excelera options.  It took 2 years to get their paperwork - it came just after Excelera stock dropped back to $40, costing some employees over a million dollars.  Last I heard, there were over 20 lawsuits lodged by employees, and more than a few from other companies that had been duped into investing directly into MII.<br> <br>

A year later, Excelera was delisted when their stock went below $1.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm .
No mention of Mirror-Image Internet ?
The parent company , Excelera.com took some $ 860 million out of the stock market after a $ 2 million investment .
After their stock went from $ 1.40 , through 3 or 4 splits , up to $ 142 ( or thereabouts ) , based solely on the expectations for Mirror Image , the owners ( Venture Capitalists ) started selling like it was going out of style .
Shortly afterward , the plummet started , and within 3 months that same stock was going for less than $ 40 .
6 months later , Mirror Image was put through a 100,000 to 1 reverse split ( still private stock ) , and all employees below the VP level were left with worthless stock option agreements .
Even the VPs would never get right side up on their options .
Employees that were with MII when Excelera bought them were given Excelera options - or the promise of Excelera options .
It took 2 years to get their paperwork - it came just after Excelera stock dropped back to $ 40 , costing some employees over a million dollars .
Last I heard , there were over 20 lawsuits lodged by employees , and more than a few from other companies that had been duped into investing directly into MII .
A year later , Excelera was delisted when their stock went below $ 1 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm.
No mention of Mirror-Image Internet?
The parent company, Excelera.com took some $860 million out of the stock market after a $2 million investment.
After their stock went from $1.40, through 3 or 4 splits, up to $142 (or thereabouts), based solely on the expectations for Mirror Image, the owners (Venture Capitalists) started selling like it was going out of style.
Shortly afterward, the plummet started, and within 3 months that same stock was going for less than $40.
6 months later, Mirror Image was put through a 100,000 to 1 reverse split (still private stock), and all employees below the VP level were left with worthless stock option agreements.
Even the VPs would never get right side up on their options.
Employees that were with MII when Excelera bought them were given Excelera options - or the promise of Excelera options.
It took 2 years to get their paperwork - it came just after Excelera stock dropped back to $40, costing some employees over a million dollars.
Last I heard, there were over 20 lawsuits lodged by employees, and more than a few from other companies that had been duped into investing directly into MII.
A year later, Excelera was delisted when their stock went below $1.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420808</id>
	<title>Re:So does anyone want to buy</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1268137080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love that the pets.com puppet is now hawking high interest auto loans ("Everyone deserves a second chance!")</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love that the pets.com puppet is now hawking high interest auto loans ( " Everyone deserves a second chance !
" )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love that the pets.com puppet is now hawking high interest auto loans ("Everyone deserves a second chance!
")</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419374</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420158</id>
	<title>Re:Where were YOU when the bomb dropped?</title>
	<author>mandelbr0t</author>
	<datestamp>1268133900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Definitely good times. And I can't even talk about the stuff we did without implicating myself and a bunch of coworkers in unethical behavior. And, one day, it was just over. I ended up working in a parking lot and becoming one of the used bookstore's best customers. I've never quite gotten back there...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Definitely good times .
And I ca n't even talk about the stuff we did without implicating myself and a bunch of coworkers in unethical behavior .
And , one day , it was just over .
I ended up working in a parking lot and becoming one of the used bookstore 's best customers .
I 've never quite gotten back there.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Definitely good times.
And I can't even talk about the stuff we did without implicating myself and a bunch of coworkers in unethical behavior.
And, one day, it was just over.
I ended up working in a parking lot and becoming one of the used bookstore's best customers.
I've never quite gotten back there...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420930</id>
	<title>Re:WE ARE STILL ROCK STARS!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268137620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The sad thing is I know someone who honestly believes this level of drivel. I want to explain reality to him, but his 6 months of experience has him convinced he can have an enterprise-level software suite operational in 3 months as a sole coder/DBA/PM.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The sad thing is I know someone who honestly believes this level of drivel .
I want to explain reality to him , but his 6 months of experience has him convinced he can have an enterprise-level software suite operational in 3 months as a sole coder/DBA/PM .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sad thing is I know someone who honestly believes this level of drivel.
I want to explain reality to him, but his 6 months of experience has him convinced he can have an enterprise-level software suite operational in 3 months as a sole coder/DBA/PM.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419640</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31425890</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268235480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only good thing about the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff, in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $85k+/yr are no longer in the industry, for the most part.</p></div><p>That's the most bullshit statement I've seen on this page yet. Half of the fucktards I worked with are probably STILL at their jobs. No certs, no education, NO APTITUDE. They just knew how to suck cock.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only good thing about the .bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff , in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $ 85k + /yr are no longer in the industry , for the most part.That 's the most bullshit statement I 've seen on this page yet .
Half of the fucktards I worked with are probably STILL at their jobs .
No certs , no education , NO APTITUDE .
They just knew how to suck cock .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only good thing about the .bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff, in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $85k+/yr are no longer in the industry, for the most part.That's the most bullshit statement I've seen on this page yet.
Half of the fucktards I worked with are probably STILL at their jobs.
No certs, no education, NO APTITUDE.
They just knew how to suck cock.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421946</id>
	<title>Ahhhh, "old and busted".</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268145240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some of those same thinking people are giving "old and busted" vs "new hotness" advice when it comes to music or movies. They think technology be it the internet, or cheap software and computers somehow will make artists successful without understanding how to run a business, or that technology makes one talented, you just need the right kind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of those same thinking people are giving " old and busted " vs " new hotness " advice when it comes to music or movies .
They think technology be it the internet , or cheap software and computers somehow will make artists successful without understanding how to run a business , or that technology makes one talented , you just need the right kind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of those same thinking people are giving "old and busted" vs "new hotness" advice when it comes to music or movies.
They think technology be it the internet, or cheap software and computers somehow will make artists successful without understanding how to run a business, or that technology makes one talented, you just need the right kind.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419924</id>
	<title>same today</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268132760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno.  I see the same things today.  Every little niche in the computing world seems to be filled at an ever-increasing speed.  Often by 20-somethings that have nothing to lose.  Nothing wrong with that.  But I still can't see how they're all going to be successful.  How many advertising social networking sites can we handle?  The problem is, since the barriers to entry are so low, and there's always an ample supply of 20-somethings that can live on next-to-nothing, I see no end to it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno .
I see the same things today .
Every little niche in the computing world seems to be filled at an ever-increasing speed .
Often by 20-somethings that have nothing to lose .
Nothing wrong with that .
But I still ca n't see how they 're all going to be successful .
How many advertising social networking sites can we handle ?
The problem is , since the barriers to entry are so low , and there 's always an ample supply of 20-somethings that can live on next-to-nothing , I see no end to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno.
I see the same things today.
Every little niche in the computing world seems to be filled at an ever-increasing speed.
Often by 20-somethings that have nothing to lose.
Nothing wrong with that.
But I still can't see how they're all going to be successful.
How many advertising social networking sites can we handle?
The problem is, since the barriers to entry are so low, and there's always an ample supply of 20-somethings that can live on next-to-nothing, I see no end to it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420134</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>Citizen of Earth</author>
	<datestamp>1268133840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Keep in mind that the coming Green-Tech stock bubble will be a lot like the dot-com one.  Make sure you bail out at the right time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep in mind that the coming Green-Tech stock bubble will be a lot like the dot-com one .
Make sure you bail out at the right time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep in mind that the coming Green-Tech stock bubble will be a lot like the dot-com one.
Make sure you bail out at the right time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419670</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421624</id>
	<title>Re:dot com business model (no, not the ??? one)</title>
	<author>timeOday</author>
	<datestamp>1268142360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although, Amazon.com was founded in 1994 and <a href="http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-819688.html" title="cnet.com">first turned a profit</a> [cnet.com] 7 years later in the last quarter of 2001!  (That article also announces Super Saver Shipping, which "Bezos acknowledged that Amazon's new shipping policy will be expensive in the short run, but could bring in new customers.")  And now?  In 2009 they turned almost a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon.com" title="wikipedia.org">billion-dollars in profit</a> [wikipedia.org].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although , Amazon.com was founded in 1994 and first turned a profit [ cnet.com ] 7 years later in the last quarter of 2001 !
( That article also announces Super Saver Shipping , which " Bezos acknowledged that Amazon 's new shipping policy will be expensive in the short run , but could bring in new customers .
" ) And now ?
In 2009 they turned almost a billion-dollars in profit [ wikipedia.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although, Amazon.com was founded in 1994 and first turned a profit [cnet.com] 7 years later in the last quarter of 2001!
(That article also announces Super Saver Shipping, which "Bezos acknowledged that Amazon's new shipping policy will be expensive in the short run, but could bring in new customers.
")  And now?
In 2009 they turned almost a billion-dollars in profit [wikipedia.org].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419466</id>
	<title>Re:What is Up with Go.com?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The front page www does indeed seem worthless, but <a href="http://espn.go.com/" title="go.com" rel="nofollow">http://espn.go.com/</a> [go.com] and <a href="http://disney.go.com/" title="go.com" rel="nofollow">http://disney.go.com/</a> [go.com] and <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/" title="go.com" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/</a> [go.com] look like they would account for traffic.<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go.com" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go.com</a> [wikipedia.org] has some info.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The front page www does indeed seem worthless , but http : //espn.go.com/ [ go.com ] and http : //disney.go.com/ [ go.com ] and http : //abcnews.go.com/ [ go.com ] look like they would account for traffic.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go.com [ wikipedia.org ] has some info .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The front page www does indeed seem worthless, but http://espn.go.com/ [go.com] and http://disney.go.com/ [go.com] and http://abcnews.go.com/ [go.com] look like they would account for traffic.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go.com [wikipedia.org] has some info.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419656</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>spun</author>
	<datestamp>1268131500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Where is this wonderful meritocracy you live in, and can I move there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Where is this wonderful meritocracy you live in , and can I move there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Where is this wonderful meritocracy you live in, and can I move there?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31423950</id>
	<title>Re:WE ARE STILL ROCK STARS!</title>
	<author>syousef</author>
	<datestamp>1268212800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Blah blah....will whoop your ass and make you worship DHH.</p><p>BRING IT.</p></div><p>Here it is. Consider it brung. Your burger store training manual. Only 2 phrases you really need to remember. "Yes sir". And "Would you like fries with that".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Blah blah....will whoop your ass and make you worship DHH.BRING IT.Here it is .
Consider it brung .
Your burger store training manual .
Only 2 phrases you really need to remember .
" Yes sir " .
And " Would you like fries with that " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blah blah....will whoop your ass and make you worship DHH.BRING IT.Here it is.
Consider it brung.
Your burger store training manual.
Only 2 phrases you really need to remember.
"Yes sir".
And "Would you like fries with that".
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421562</id>
	<title>Re:Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268141880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is what really hurts most of us who lived the dot-com bust.</p><p>We all grew up being told how we would be rich before we were 30 and never unemployed, --just because it was the computer industry.  We heard tale of many people living that dream, working in a field they intrinsically loved and being amply rewarded for loving it.  If anything happened to your job, another one that paid better was waiting at the company across the street.</p><p>After the bust, many of us could not find work, or had to work McJobs --something we always had thought would never happen.  If we found a "real" job it was at a lower rate of pay and had a dress code --goodbye tie-dye shirts, ripped jeans, and pink hair (which had been acceptable even at job interviews before).  Then came the news reports of, not blue-collar industrial jobs, but the career we had studied hard for in college being outsourced to cheap labor overseas.  Most of us that weren't knocked out of the industry have had to keep our heads out of the clouds, living in a world where even the once-mighty Microsoft can have mass layoffs.  What was once the career that would make us special, has become just another field of work.</p><p>Don't criticize those of us who have a hard time getting over the recession of 2001.  Many of us lost money.  All of us lost our innocence.</p><p>The real world is sink or swim, and 2001 did not sink us all.  But it's never been fun to swim when so many people said we would fly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is what really hurts most of us who lived the dot-com bust.We all grew up being told how we would be rich before we were 30 and never unemployed , --just because it was the computer industry .
We heard tale of many people living that dream , working in a field they intrinsically loved and being amply rewarded for loving it .
If anything happened to your job , another one that paid better was waiting at the company across the street.After the bust , many of us could not find work , or had to work McJobs --something we always had thought would never happen .
If we found a " real " job it was at a lower rate of pay and had a dress code --goodbye tie-dye shirts , ripped jeans , and pink hair ( which had been acceptable even at job interviews before ) .
Then came the news reports of , not blue-collar industrial jobs , but the career we had studied hard for in college being outsourced to cheap labor overseas .
Most of us that were n't knocked out of the industry have had to keep our heads out of the clouds , living in a world where even the once-mighty Microsoft can have mass layoffs .
What was once the career that would make us special , has become just another field of work.Do n't criticize those of us who have a hard time getting over the recession of 2001 .
Many of us lost money .
All of us lost our innocence.The real world is sink or swim , and 2001 did not sink us all .
But it 's never been fun to swim when so many people said we would fly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is what really hurts most of us who lived the dot-com bust.We all grew up being told how we would be rich before we were 30 and never unemployed, --just because it was the computer industry.
We heard tale of many people living that dream, working in a field they intrinsically loved and being amply rewarded for loving it.
If anything happened to your job, another one that paid better was waiting at the company across the street.After the bust, many of us could not find work, or had to work McJobs --something we always had thought would never happen.
If we found a "real" job it was at a lower rate of pay and had a dress code --goodbye tie-dye shirts, ripped jeans, and pink hair (which had been acceptable even at job interviews before).
Then came the news reports of, not blue-collar industrial jobs, but the career we had studied hard for in college being outsourced to cheap labor overseas.
Most of us that weren't knocked out of the industry have had to keep our heads out of the clouds, living in a world where even the once-mighty Microsoft can have mass layoffs.
What was once the career that would make us special, has become just another field of work.Don't criticize those of us who have a hard time getting over the recession of 2001.
Many of us lost money.
All of us lost our innocence.The real world is sink or swim, and 2001 did not sink us all.
But it's never been fun to swim when so many people said we would fly.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419852</id>
	<title>Re:Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>istartedi</author>
	<datestamp>1268132340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dream time.  Cue didgeridoo and rock paintings.</p><p>Even in Northern Virginia there was mania.  One afternoon
on my way home from work, I saw a plane fly by trailing a banner
"Cool Internet Jobs at UUNet".  Searchlights played in the evening
over Tyson's corner.  There was also a helicopter trailing a big
sign for some tech company... I want to say HP, but I don't exactly
recall.</p><p>Alas, the ISP I worked for was acquired by a boring telecom, which
raised our pay a bit but didn't fill our parking lot with Ferraris.</p><p>The post 911 "security boom" in the DC area was much better
for me; but it had its own problems.  What's next?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dream time .
Cue didgeridoo and rock paintings.Even in Northern Virginia there was mania .
One afternoon on my way home from work , I saw a plane fly by trailing a banner " Cool Internet Jobs at UUNet " .
Searchlights played in the evening over Tyson 's corner .
There was also a helicopter trailing a big sign for some tech company... I want to say HP , but I do n't exactly recall.Alas , the ISP I worked for was acquired by a boring telecom , which raised our pay a bit but did n't fill our parking lot with Ferraris.The post 911 " security boom " in the DC area was much better for me ; but it had its own problems .
What 's next ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dream time.
Cue didgeridoo and rock paintings.Even in Northern Virginia there was mania.
One afternoon
on my way home from work, I saw a plane fly by trailing a banner
"Cool Internet Jobs at UUNet".
Searchlights played in the evening
over Tyson's corner.
There was also a helicopter trailing a big
sign for some tech company... I want to say HP, but I don't exactly
recall.Alas, the ISP I worked for was acquired by a boring telecom, which
raised our pay a bit but didn't fill our parking lot with Ferraris.The post 911 "security boom" in the DC area was much better
for me; but it had its own problems.
What's next?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31422224</id>
	<title>hmm...</title>
	<author>malp</author>
	<datestamp>1268147940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoa... tens years of watching jenny cam and waiting for her to do it. I'm not counting the couple sessions of foreplay before the server crashed under a wave of voyeurs. This is kinda like the wait for fallout 3. When the game finally came out, I was too old to enjoy it. My tastes had changed. Now when Jenny finally does the act, she'll be too old for me to enjoy her.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoa... tens years of watching jenny cam and waiting for her to do it .
I 'm not counting the couple sessions of foreplay before the server crashed under a wave of voyeurs .
This is kinda like the wait for fallout 3 .
When the game finally came out , I was too old to enjoy it .
My tastes had changed .
Now when Jenny finally does the act , she 'll be too old for me to enjoy her .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoa... tens years of watching jenny cam and waiting for her to do it.
I'm not counting the couple sessions of foreplay before the server crashed under a wave of voyeurs.
This is kinda like the wait for fallout 3.
When the game finally came out, I was too old to enjoy it.
My tastes had changed.
Now when Jenny finally does the act, she'll be too old for me to enjoy her.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31426902</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just waiting on this .info thing to peak</title>
	<author>sglewis100</author>
	<datestamp>1268239980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bought one. Family site, mostly picture sharing for distant relatives. Saved $8. Still easy for them to remember. Professionally, it's just a $1.99 expense since companya.com wants companya.net, companya.org to protect their rights, even if they don't use the names. Now we need to have them buy<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.info,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.us,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.biz etc to be complete if they are worried.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought one .
Family site , mostly picture sharing for distant relatives .
Saved $ 8 .
Still easy for them to remember .
Professionally , it 's just a $ 1.99 expense since companya.com wants companya.net , companya.org to protect their rights , even if they do n't use the names .
Now we need to have them buy .info , .us , .biz etc to be complete if they are worried .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought one.
Family site, mostly picture sharing for distant relatives.
Saved $8.
Still easy for them to remember.
Professionally, it's just a $1.99 expense since companya.com wants companya.net, companya.org to protect their rights, even if they don't use the names.
Now we need to have them buy .info, .us, .biz etc to be complete if they are worried.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420466</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>eln</author>
	<datestamp>1268135220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>On the bright side, these paper millions did result in one of the most <a href="http://www.linuxtoday.com/news\_story.php3?ltsn=1999-12-10-001-05-NW-LF" title="linuxtoday.com">unintentionally hilarious essays</a> [linuxtoday.com] ever written.  So, it wasn't a total loss.</htmltext>
<tokenext>On the bright side , these paper millions did result in one of the most unintentionally hilarious essays [ linuxtoday.com ] ever written .
So , it was n't a total loss .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On the bright side, these paper millions did result in one of the most unintentionally hilarious essays [linuxtoday.com] ever written.
So, it wasn't a total loss.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419384</id>
	<title>Flooz?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who could forget Flooz? Me. Until right this instance. Thanks a lot, Slashdot, I was happier NOT remembering!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who could forget Flooz ?
Me. Until right this instance .
Thanks a lot , Slashdot , I was happier NOT remembering !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who could forget Flooz?
Me. Until right this instance.
Thanks a lot, Slashdot, I was happier NOT remembering!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420606</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>TheNarrator</author>
	<datestamp>1268135940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you are into investing in bubbles remember this famous quote:</p><blockquote><div><p>"Economic history is a never-ending series of episodes based on falsehoods and lies, not truths. It represents the path to big money. The object is to recognize the trend whose premise is false, ride that trend, and step off before it is discredited."  - George Soros</p></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If you are into investing in bubbles remember this famous quote : " Economic history is a never-ending series of episodes based on falsehoods and lies , not truths .
It represents the path to big money .
The object is to recognize the trend whose premise is false , ride that trend , and step off before it is discredited .
" - George Soros</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you are into investing in bubbles remember this famous quote:"Economic history is a never-ending series of episodes based on falsehoods and lies, not truths.
It represents the path to big money.
The object is to recognize the trend whose premise is false, ride that trend, and step off before it is discredited.
"  - George Soros
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419982</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1268133120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only good thing about the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff, in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $85k+/yr are no longer in the industry, for the most part.</p></div><p>Wrong. We're still in the industry, we're just no longer in the <i>country</i>. (G'day, mate!).</p><p>But the MCSE was particularly valuable in my case - when time came to downsize the division, people with MCSE's were kept so the company could keep their Gold Partner status, which requires a certain number of certified people.  So it didn't get me a job, but it allowed me to keep one.  It puts you in a commodities market, but it can sometimes keep you away from those dangerous and horrible deep fryers.</p><p>Are the MCSE's intrinsically valuable?  Probably not, it's a comedy.  Invoking the Power of Certification is usually good for a face plant.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only good thing about the .bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff , in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $ 85k + /yr are no longer in the industry , for the most part.Wrong .
We 're still in the industry , we 're just no longer in the country .
( G'day , mate !
) .But the MCSE was particularly valuable in my case - when time came to downsize the division , people with MCSE 's were kept so the company could keep their Gold Partner status , which requires a certain number of certified people .
So it did n't get me a job , but it allowed me to keep one .
It puts you in a commodities market , but it can sometimes keep you away from those dangerous and horrible deep fryers.Are the MCSE 's intrinsically valuable ?
Probably not , it 's a comedy .
Invoking the Power of Certification is usually good for a face plant .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only good thing about the .bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff, in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $85k+/yr are no longer in the industry, for the most part.Wrong.
We're still in the industry, we're just no longer in the country.
(G'day, mate!
).But the MCSE was particularly valuable in my case - when time came to downsize the division, people with MCSE's were kept so the company could keep their Gold Partner status, which requires a certain number of certified people.
So it didn't get me a job, but it allowed me to keep one.
It puts you in a commodities market, but it can sometimes keep you away from those dangerous and horrible deep fryers.Are the MCSE's intrinsically valuable?
Probably not, it's a comedy.
Invoking the Power of Certification is usually good for a face plant.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420554</id>
	<title>I think the boom hit the UK a little later.</title>
	<author>shippo</author>
	<datestamp>1268135700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember being in London in 2000 attending a training course. It must have been late in the year, as it was after we'd moved offices that August.</p><p>Anyway whilst down in London I read a few of those free newspapers to pass the time, and couldn't believe how they were hyping stocks in all kinds of daft websites. Then there were the equally stupid adverts splashed all over the underground. One company in particular had bombarded the whole of the network whilst lavish adverts of for their service, whose entire mode of operation involved serious personal privacy breaches. It was obvious that a crash was looming.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember being in London in 2000 attending a training course .
It must have been late in the year , as it was after we 'd moved offices that August.Anyway whilst down in London I read a few of those free newspapers to pass the time , and could n't believe how they were hyping stocks in all kinds of daft websites .
Then there were the equally stupid adverts splashed all over the underground .
One company in particular had bombarded the whole of the network whilst lavish adverts of for their service , whose entire mode of operation involved serious personal privacy breaches .
It was obvious that a crash was looming .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember being in London in 2000 attending a training course.
It must have been late in the year, as it was after we'd moved offices that August.Anyway whilst down in London I read a few of those free newspapers to pass the time, and couldn't believe how they were hyping stocks in all kinds of daft websites.
Then there were the equally stupid adverts splashed all over the underground.
One company in particular had bombarded the whole of the network whilst lavish adverts of for their service, whose entire mode of operation involved serious personal privacy breaches.
It was obvious that a crash was looming.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419464</id>
	<title>Re:What is Up with Go.com?</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1268130600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go.com is home to things like ESPN.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go.com is home to things like ESPN .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go.com is home to things like ESPN.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419908</id>
	<title>Ahhhh, dot.com</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1268132700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I spent the dot.com time in a bank auditing company. So I had a perfect view when the whole crap started to crash and burn.</p><p>Assessment of risk was completely off the bat. Everyone thought the internet is the next big thing. That really will take off. Everyone will buy everything online. Soon. Any time now. It's so much easier. And with a concentrated storage, logistics and delivery, you simply HAVE to be cheaper (overhead-wise) than everyone else, and computers are cheaper than brick-and-mortar stores, and no shop rents, and and and... it just MUST be a huge thing! And those loans, they will pay for themselves. Easily. They have no expense, you see? They can all invest it in their computers. And stuff. And what they need. And marketing is so big, it just HAS to take off like crazy!</p><p>Believe it or not, THAT was actually the reasoning behind the unsecured multi million loans! Everyone was so hyped up about how easily they should be able to recover their investments. Hell, NOT throwing money at them would have been so stupid because everyone else did it and you just can't stay out of it because then your revenue would be lower and nobody would give you money (sounds familiar? It reminds me a lot of the current "we had to do those high risk businesses because else we could not offer those insane interest rates and if we didn't, nobody would have invested with us... It's the same bull all over again).</p><p>What appearantly everyone failed (or refused) to see was that a lot of these people had little more than a pipe dream for a business plan and no experience with running a business whatsoever. We'll certainly hear a lot of stories of people who worked at dot.com businesses at the time. Tell me: These were startups, right? How many had expensive paid-by-company lunches or parties? What cars did your bosses drive, at company expense? Where was your office, and how was it furnished? What PR stunts did you stage?</p><p>That's not how you "invest" money. That's how you squander it. And that's what made the bubble burst.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I spent the dot.com time in a bank auditing company .
So I had a perfect view when the whole crap started to crash and burn.Assessment of risk was completely off the bat .
Everyone thought the internet is the next big thing .
That really will take off .
Everyone will buy everything online .
Soon. Any time now .
It 's so much easier .
And with a concentrated storage , logistics and delivery , you simply HAVE to be cheaper ( overhead-wise ) than everyone else , and computers are cheaper than brick-and-mortar stores , and no shop rents , and and and... it just MUST be a huge thing !
And those loans , they will pay for themselves .
Easily. They have no expense , you see ?
They can all invest it in their computers .
And stuff .
And what they need .
And marketing is so big , it just HAS to take off like crazy ! Believe it or not , THAT was actually the reasoning behind the unsecured multi million loans !
Everyone was so hyped up about how easily they should be able to recover their investments .
Hell , NOT throwing money at them would have been so stupid because everyone else did it and you just ca n't stay out of it because then your revenue would be lower and nobody would give you money ( sounds familiar ?
It reminds me a lot of the current " we had to do those high risk businesses because else we could not offer those insane interest rates and if we did n't , nobody would have invested with us... It 's the same bull all over again ) .What appearantly everyone failed ( or refused ) to see was that a lot of these people had little more than a pipe dream for a business plan and no experience with running a business whatsoever .
We 'll certainly hear a lot of stories of people who worked at dot.com businesses at the time .
Tell me : These were startups , right ?
How many had expensive paid-by-company lunches or parties ?
What cars did your bosses drive , at company expense ?
Where was your office , and how was it furnished ?
What PR stunts did you stage ? That 's not how you " invest " money .
That 's how you squander it .
And that 's what made the bubble burst .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I spent the dot.com time in a bank auditing company.
So I had a perfect view when the whole crap started to crash and burn.Assessment of risk was completely off the bat.
Everyone thought the internet is the next big thing.
That really will take off.
Everyone will buy everything online.
Soon. Any time now.
It's so much easier.
And with a concentrated storage, logistics and delivery, you simply HAVE to be cheaper (overhead-wise) than everyone else, and computers are cheaper than brick-and-mortar stores, and no shop rents, and and and... it just MUST be a huge thing!
And those loans, they will pay for themselves.
Easily. They have no expense, you see?
They can all invest it in their computers.
And stuff.
And what they need.
And marketing is so big, it just HAS to take off like crazy!Believe it or not, THAT was actually the reasoning behind the unsecured multi million loans!
Everyone was so hyped up about how easily they should be able to recover their investments.
Hell, NOT throwing money at them would have been so stupid because everyone else did it and you just can't stay out of it because then your revenue would be lower and nobody would give you money (sounds familiar?
It reminds me a lot of the current "we had to do those high risk businesses because else we could not offer those insane interest rates and if we didn't, nobody would have invested with us... It's the same bull all over again).What appearantly everyone failed (or refused) to see was that a lot of these people had little more than a pipe dream for a business plan and no experience with running a business whatsoever.
We'll certainly hear a lot of stories of people who worked at dot.com businesses at the time.
Tell me: These were startups, right?
How many had expensive paid-by-company lunches or parties?
What cars did your bosses drive, at company expense?
Where was your office, and how was it furnished?
What PR stunts did you stage?That's not how you "invest" money.
That's how you squander it.
And that's what made the bubble burst.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31422310</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>gibson123</author>
	<datestamp>1268149080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, that happened to many folks I know, and I got caught up also.

I knew the gig was up when I get my haircut, (I lived in the Upper East Side, NYC), my barber told me how she had made x amount of dollars that day trading such and such a tech stock, a tip from one of her customers.  I should have went home and sold right away, I knew it was too good to be true.

Moral of the story "stop loss", and learn an important lesson to fight another day.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , that happened to many folks I know , and I got caught up also .
I knew the gig was up when I get my haircut , ( I lived in the Upper East Side , NYC ) , my barber told me how she had made x amount of dollars that day trading such and such a tech stock , a tip from one of her customers .
I should have went home and sold right away , I knew it was too good to be true .
Moral of the story " stop loss " , and learn an important lesson to fight another day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, that happened to many folks I know, and I got caught up also.
I knew the gig was up when I get my haircut, (I lived in the Upper East Side, NYC), my barber told me how she had made x amount of dollars that day trading such and such a tech stock, a tip from one of her customers.
I should have went home and sold right away, I knew it was too good to be true.
Moral of the story "stop loss", and learn an important lesson to fight another day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419618</id>
	<title>It was a year...</title>
	<author>recharged95</author>
	<datestamp>1268131320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>that everyone thought he/she was a software developer.
<br>
<br>
Note, Y2K was also adding gasoline to a fire.
<br>
<br>
Funny, the dot-com bubble still lives on: we are still marketing (i.e. exploiting) the <b>same</b> ideas generated from those days (1997-2000). It's 2010, same ideas, just different hardware (multicore cpus, gigabit networks, 3G/WiFi access). Times has <i>changed</i>, but <i>have stayed the same</i>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>that everyone thought he/she was a software developer .
Note , Y2K was also adding gasoline to a fire .
Funny , the dot-com bubble still lives on : we are still marketing ( i.e .
exploiting ) the same ideas generated from those days ( 1997-2000 ) .
It 's 2010 , same ideas , just different hardware ( multicore cpus , gigabit networks , 3G/WiFi access ) .
Times has changed , but have stayed the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that everyone thought he/she was a software developer.
Note, Y2K was also adding gasoline to a fire.
Funny, the dot-com bubble still lives on: we are still marketing (i.e.
exploiting) the same ideas generated from those days (1997-2000).
It's 2010, same ideas, just different hardware (multicore cpus, gigabit networks, 3G/WiFi access).
Times has changed, but have stayed the same.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419640</id>
	<title>WE ARE STILL ROCK STARS!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268131440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a Ruby on Rails developer, and I AM A ROCK STAR. You think you know CRUD? Nuh uh! Me, RoR and ActiveRecord will kick your pathetic ass, because not only are we ROCK STARS, but we are CODE NINJAS.</p><p>See my fedora? Yeah, you do, bitch. It shows I'm real. I'm only 18 and haven't been to university, and my startup has no real customers, but me and AJAX will whoop your ass and make you worship DHH.</p><p>BRING IT.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a Ruby on Rails developer , and I AM A ROCK STAR .
You think you know CRUD ?
Nuh uh !
Me , RoR and ActiveRecord will kick your pathetic ass , because not only are we ROCK STARS , but we are CODE NINJAS.See my fedora ?
Yeah , you do , bitch .
It shows I 'm real .
I 'm only 18 and have n't been to university , and my startup has no real customers , but me and AJAX will whoop your ass and make you worship DHH.BRING IT .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a Ruby on Rails developer, and I AM A ROCK STAR.
You think you know CRUD?
Nuh uh!
Me, RoR and ActiveRecord will kick your pathetic ass, because not only are we ROCK STARS, but we are CODE NINJAS.See my fedora?
Yeah, you do, bitch.
It shows I'm real.
I'm only 18 and haven't been to university, and my startup has no real customers, but me and AJAX will whoop your ass and make you worship DHH.BRING IT.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31423392</id>
	<title>Re:Where were YOU when the bomb dropped?</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1268161080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A friend of mine was at Intel at the time.  He says when the bubble burst, literally overnight it went from catered dinners with all the booze you could drink, to only being allowed one pen a week.  He says he remembers going to the supply closet for a pen, found it locked, and when he asked for the key, was challenged with, "Didn't you get a pen yesterday?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A friend of mine was at Intel at the time .
He says when the bubble burst , literally overnight it went from catered dinners with all the booze you could drink , to only being allowed one pen a week .
He says he remembers going to the supply closet for a pen , found it locked , and when he asked for the key , was challenged with , " Did n't you get a pen yesterday ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A friend of mine was at Intel at the time.
He says when the bubble burst, literally overnight it went from catered dinners with all the booze you could drink, to only being allowed one pen a week.
He says he remembers going to the supply closet for a pen, found it locked, and when he asked for the key, was challenged with, "Didn't you get a pen yesterday?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419726</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268131740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most definitely not in this country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most definitely not in this country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most definitely not in this country.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421088</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>DCFusor</author>
	<datestamp>1268138700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We made a ton -- fair and square.  My outfit did consulting, software, product development for both large established firms, and startups.  This made it easy to predict when the bubble was going to pop, actually.  We had customers coming out of our ears with no business plan, no market research, no skills of their own, and just some Vulture capital and an insistence that if we could just make their vision, they'd all be rich and make us rich too.  The looks in their eyes when we asked for plain old cash instead of options told it all.  We rejected many of those losers, not wanting the karma associated with the obvious epic fail that was going to happen to them.
<p>
And as a result of the observation, wound up advising some customers we consulted for to get the heck out of the markets -- too good to be true is, well, too good to be true.  As a result a few very rich people think they owe me favors.
</p><p>
I now trade the markets for a living, having not much better to do for dough, and I turned out to be good at it.  I am now stealing our bailout money back from Goldman and others for fun and profit.  Feels pretty good, actually.  One failure shouldn't make you give up -- it should make you learn the game.  Did you really expect to make one decision once, and profit without further effort from it forever?
Why are you so special?  No one else gets that deal.  You have to earn it -- or you should earn it, because else the results don't make you happy anyway.
</p><p>
And the poster below is right:  Once everyone is into a trip in the markets, it's time to get out, the big guys are and sticking Joe Dumbguy with overpriced stuff they are ditching.  Think of it this way - if everyone is in the market fully, and all are bullish, who is left to buy more stocks and keep the prices rising?  No one, so the first guy who wants to sell blows the whole show.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We made a ton -- fair and square .
My outfit did consulting , software , product development for both large established firms , and startups .
This made it easy to predict when the bubble was going to pop , actually .
We had customers coming out of our ears with no business plan , no market research , no skills of their own , and just some Vulture capital and an insistence that if we could just make their vision , they 'd all be rich and make us rich too .
The looks in their eyes when we asked for plain old cash instead of options told it all .
We rejected many of those losers , not wanting the karma associated with the obvious epic fail that was going to happen to them .
And as a result of the observation , wound up advising some customers we consulted for to get the heck out of the markets -- too good to be true is , well , too good to be true .
As a result a few very rich people think they owe me favors .
I now trade the markets for a living , having not much better to do for dough , and I turned out to be good at it .
I am now stealing our bailout money back from Goldman and others for fun and profit .
Feels pretty good , actually .
One failure should n't make you give up -- it should make you learn the game .
Did you really expect to make one decision once , and profit without further effort from it forever ?
Why are you so special ?
No one else gets that deal .
You have to earn it -- or you should earn it , because else the results do n't make you happy anyway .
And the poster below is right : Once everyone is into a trip in the markets , it 's time to get out , the big guys are and sticking Joe Dumbguy with overpriced stuff they are ditching .
Think of it this way - if everyone is in the market fully , and all are bullish , who is left to buy more stocks and keep the prices rising ?
No one , so the first guy who wants to sell blows the whole show .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We made a ton -- fair and square.
My outfit did consulting, software, product development for both large established firms, and startups.
This made it easy to predict when the bubble was going to pop, actually.
We had customers coming out of our ears with no business plan, no market research, no skills of their own, and just some Vulture capital and an insistence that if we could just make their vision, they'd all be rich and make us rich too.
The looks in their eyes when we asked for plain old cash instead of options told it all.
We rejected many of those losers, not wanting the karma associated with the obvious epic fail that was going to happen to them.
And as a result of the observation, wound up advising some customers we consulted for to get the heck out of the markets -- too good to be true is, well, too good to be true.
As a result a few very rich people think they owe me favors.
I now trade the markets for a living, having not much better to do for dough, and I turned out to be good at it.
I am now stealing our bailout money back from Goldman and others for fun and profit.
Feels pretty good, actually.
One failure shouldn't make you give up -- it should make you learn the game.
Did you really expect to make one decision once, and profit without further effort from it forever?
Why are you so special?
No one else gets that deal.
You have to earn it -- or you should earn it, because else the results don't make you happy anyway.
And the poster below is right:  Once everyone is into a trip in the markets, it's time to get out, the big guys are and sticking Joe Dumbguy with overpriced stuff they are ditching.
Think of it this way - if everyone is in the market fully, and all are bullish, who is left to buy more stocks and keep the prices rising?
No one, so the first guy who wants to sell blows the whole show.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419794</id>
	<title>Re:What is Up with Go.com?</title>
	<author>Jer</author>
	<datestamp>1268132100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wow - that is an ugly site.</p><p>But even though it looks like "domain parking crap" it does appear that that it is the main page for the Disney-owned "go.com".  They just slapped an ugly page on the front and I guess they assume no one will ever visit it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow - that is an ugly site.But even though it looks like " domain parking crap " it does appear that that it is the main page for the Disney-owned " go.com " .
They just slapped an ugly page on the front and I guess they assume no one will ever visit it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow - that is an ugly site.But even though it looks like "domain parking crap" it does appear that that it is the main page for the Disney-owned "go.com".
They just slapped an ugly page on the front and I guess they assume no one will ever visit it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420460</id>
	<title>Y2K bug</title>
	<author>mrboyd</author>
	<datestamp>1268135220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Most likely a shitty automated brokerage system that initiated a fire sale when he calculated the net earning of his NASDAQ stock over the first trimester of 1900... Sheeple panicked, history ensued. And they say the Y2K bug had no impact... Geee.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most likely a shitty automated brokerage system that initiated a fire sale when he calculated the net earning of his NASDAQ stock over the first trimester of 1900... Sheeple panicked , history ensued .
And they say the Y2K bug had no impact... Geee .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most likely a shitty automated brokerage system that initiated a fire sale when he calculated the net earning of his NASDAQ stock over the first trimester of 1900... Sheeple panicked, history ensued.
And they say the Y2K bug had no impact... Geee.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419374</id>
	<title>So does anyone want to buy</title>
	<author>LynnwoodRooster</author>
	<datestamp>1268130240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>15,000 Flooz notes?  Going cheap!  I'll trade for a pets.com sock-puppet...</htmltext>
<tokenext>15,000 Flooz notes ?
Going cheap !
I 'll trade for a pets.com sock-puppet.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>15,000 Flooz notes?
Going cheap!
I'll trade for a pets.com sock-puppet...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419738</id>
	<title>Re:Kozmo.com</title>
	<author>ClosedSource</author>
	<datestamp>1268131860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But now we have companies with down-to-earth business plans - like twitter.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But now we have companies with down-to-earth business plans - like twitter .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But now we have companies with down-to-earth business plans - like twitter.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420362</id>
	<title>We Live in Public.</title>
	<author>SimonTheSoundMan</author>
	<datestamp>1268134740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.weliveinpublicthemovie.com/" title="weliveinpu...emovie.com">We Live in Public</a> [weliveinpu...emovie.com] is a movie worth watching. The movie documentary follows Josh Harris, who became a dot com millionaire, he did some crazy art projects when he was rich, it then follows how he lost all his money and what he did afterwards. From IMDB:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>On the 40th anniversary of the Internet, WE LIVE IN PUBLIC tells the story of the effect the web is having on our society as seen through the eyes of "the greatest Internet pioneer you've never heard of", visionary Josh Harris. Award-winning director, Ondi Timoner ("DIG!"), documented his tumultuous life for more than a decade, to create a riveting, cautionary tale of what to expect as the virtual world inevitably takes control of our lives. Josh Harris, often called the "Warhol of the Web" through the infamous dot.com boom of the 1990's, founded Pseudo.com, the first Internet television network and created his vision of the future, an underground bunker in NYC where 100 people lived together on camera for 30 days over the millennium. He proved how in the not-so-distant future of life online, we will willingly trade our privacy for the connection and recognition we all deeply desire. Through his experiments, including a six-month stint living under 24-hour live surveillance online which led him to mental collapse, he demonstrated the price we will all pay for living in public.</p> </div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We Live in Public [ weliveinpu...emovie.com ] is a movie worth watching .
The movie documentary follows Josh Harris , who became a dot com millionaire , he did some crazy art projects when he was rich , it then follows how he lost all his money and what he did afterwards .
From IMDB : On the 40th anniversary of the Internet , WE LIVE IN PUBLIC tells the story of the effect the web is having on our society as seen through the eyes of " the greatest Internet pioneer you 've never heard of " , visionary Josh Harris .
Award-winning director , Ondi Timoner ( " DIG !
" ) , documented his tumultuous life for more than a decade , to create a riveting , cautionary tale of what to expect as the virtual world inevitably takes control of our lives .
Josh Harris , often called the " Warhol of the Web " through the infamous dot.com boom of the 1990 's , founded Pseudo.com , the first Internet television network and created his vision of the future , an underground bunker in NYC where 100 people lived together on camera for 30 days over the millennium .
He proved how in the not-so-distant future of life online , we will willingly trade our privacy for the connection and recognition we all deeply desire .
Through his experiments , including a six-month stint living under 24-hour live surveillance online which led him to mental collapse , he demonstrated the price we will all pay for living in public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We Live in Public [weliveinpu...emovie.com] is a movie worth watching.
The movie documentary follows Josh Harris, who became a dot com millionaire, he did some crazy art projects when he was rich, it then follows how he lost all his money and what he did afterwards.
From IMDB:On the 40th anniversary of the Internet, WE LIVE IN PUBLIC tells the story of the effect the web is having on our society as seen through the eyes of "the greatest Internet pioneer you've never heard of", visionary Josh Harris.
Award-winning director, Ondi Timoner ("DIG!
"), documented his tumultuous life for more than a decade, to create a riveting, cautionary tale of what to expect as the virtual world inevitably takes control of our lives.
Josh Harris, often called the "Warhol of the Web" through the infamous dot.com boom of the 1990's, founded Pseudo.com, the first Internet television network and created his vision of the future, an underground bunker in NYC where 100 people lived together on camera for 30 days over the millennium.
He proved how in the not-so-distant future of life online, we will willingly trade our privacy for the connection and recognition we all deeply desire.
Through his experiments, including a six-month stint living under 24-hour live surveillance online which led him to mental collapse, he demonstrated the price we will all pay for living in public. 
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419550</id>
	<title>Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268131020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hate being reminded of the dot com bubble. I had some good money in blue chip stocks and good mutual funds. I saw people making money like crazy all around me by investing in mutual funds that were heavily into tech stocks. So I took out a huge portion of my money and transferred it to the tech mutual funds and very soon after, the bubble burst. I had the misfortune of buying at the peak of the bubble and lost a very large amount of hard earned money. I don't know when I'll get over that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hate being reminded of the dot com bubble .
I had some good money in blue chip stocks and good mutual funds .
I saw people making money like crazy all around me by investing in mutual funds that were heavily into tech stocks .
So I took out a huge portion of my money and transferred it to the tech mutual funds and very soon after , the bubble burst .
I had the misfortune of buying at the peak of the bubble and lost a very large amount of hard earned money .
I do n't know when I 'll get over that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hate being reminded of the dot com bubble.
I had some good money in blue chip stocks and good mutual funds.
I saw people making money like crazy all around me by investing in mutual funds that were heavily into tech stocks.
So I took out a huge portion of my money and transferred it to the tech mutual funds and very soon after, the bubble burst.
I had the misfortune of buying at the peak of the bubble and lost a very large amount of hard earned money.
I don't know when I'll get over that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31425022</id>
	<title>It's way more complicated than that...</title>
	<author>Genda</author>
	<datestamp>1268229960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes there were idiotic businesses launched that should never have been, but ultimately what popped the DotCom bubble was the profound and fundamental shift from our government promoting investment into high tech (the Clinton years) and the monumental shift to promoting investment first in energy (oil, gas, and coal... remember Dubya flew to his campaign stops on an Enron jet), then real estate, and ultimately war (Mr. Cheney said we there were no good targets in Afghanistan... where the terrorists were... no easy way to get the oil there) so instead we started a war of convenience for our fearless leaders!</p><p>In California, I remember rolling black outs reeking havoc with the business of the company I worked for in 2001. All while Enron screwed with the Western U.S. and milked California for 18 billion dollars. Sure during the 90s Tech probably got an unfair amount of Government support. However, since then, it hasn't got the support it needs or deserves. Worse, interesting technologies and possibilities were obliterated needlessly. We all lost out, so many of my friends left tech, because for nearly 4 years, there simply wasn't the level of requisite work available to support the engineers that had previously existed.</p><p>Since then, Wall Street seems wholly dedicated to make 90\% of America unemployed and unemployable. As business is forced by design to increase the revenue (often by shaving the labor pool), more and more is being done by fewer and fewer people. The term is "Jobless Recovery", and it seems to be the new reality presented to us by our corporate handlers. A different future would demand a radical shift in the way we now do things. From my point of view, it's seriously worth considering.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes there were idiotic businesses launched that should never have been , but ultimately what popped the DotCom bubble was the profound and fundamental shift from our government promoting investment into high tech ( the Clinton years ) and the monumental shift to promoting investment first in energy ( oil , gas , and coal... remember Dubya flew to his campaign stops on an Enron jet ) , then real estate , and ultimately war ( Mr. Cheney said we there were no good targets in Afghanistan... where the terrorists were... no easy way to get the oil there ) so instead we started a war of convenience for our fearless leaders ! In California , I remember rolling black outs reeking havoc with the business of the company I worked for in 2001 .
All while Enron screwed with the Western U.S. and milked California for 18 billion dollars .
Sure during the 90s Tech probably got an unfair amount of Government support .
However , since then , it has n't got the support it needs or deserves .
Worse , interesting technologies and possibilities were obliterated needlessly .
We all lost out , so many of my friends left tech , because for nearly 4 years , there simply was n't the level of requisite work available to support the engineers that had previously existed.Since then , Wall Street seems wholly dedicated to make 90 \ % of America unemployed and unemployable .
As business is forced by design to increase the revenue ( often by shaving the labor pool ) , more and more is being done by fewer and fewer people .
The term is " Jobless Recovery " , and it seems to be the new reality presented to us by our corporate handlers .
A different future would demand a radical shift in the way we now do things .
From my point of view , it 's seriously worth considering .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes there were idiotic businesses launched that should never have been, but ultimately what popped the DotCom bubble was the profound and fundamental shift from our government promoting investment into high tech (the Clinton years) and the monumental shift to promoting investment first in energy (oil, gas, and coal... remember Dubya flew to his campaign stops on an Enron jet), then real estate, and ultimately war (Mr. Cheney said we there were no good targets in Afghanistan... where the terrorists were... no easy way to get the oil there) so instead we started a war of convenience for our fearless leaders!In California, I remember rolling black outs reeking havoc with the business of the company I worked for in 2001.
All while Enron screwed with the Western U.S. and milked California for 18 billion dollars.
Sure during the 90s Tech probably got an unfair amount of Government support.
However, since then, it hasn't got the support it needs or deserves.
Worse, interesting technologies and possibilities were obliterated needlessly.
We all lost out, so many of my friends left tech, because for nearly 4 years, there simply wasn't the level of requisite work available to support the engineers that had previously existed.Since then, Wall Street seems wholly dedicated to make 90\% of America unemployed and unemployable.
As business is forced by design to increase the revenue (often by shaving the labor pool), more and more is being done by fewer and fewer people.
The term is "Jobless Recovery", and it seems to be the new reality presented to us by our corporate handlers.
A different future would demand a radical shift in the way we now do things.
From my point of view, it's seriously worth considering.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421316</id>
	<title>Re:WE ARE STILL ROCK STARS!</title>
	<author>BitHive</author>
	<datestamp>1268140380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, PHP am ROCK STARS.  It is the fastest, most popular, most flexible language that gives the programmer TOTAL CONTROL rather than the BLACK BOX of MAGIC that is RoR.  Namespaces?  ORM?  RESTful routing?  Bah!  The rockiest language for web development is a C wannabe where everyone rolls their own session management!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , PHP am ROCK STARS .
It is the fastest , most popular , most flexible language that gives the programmer TOTAL CONTROL rather than the BLACK BOX of MAGIC that is RoR .
Namespaces ? ORM ?
RESTful routing ?
Bah ! The rockiest language for web development is a C wannabe where everyone rolls their own session management !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, PHP am ROCK STARS.
It is the fastest, most popular, most flexible language that gives the programmer TOTAL CONTROL rather than the BLACK BOX of MAGIC that is RoR.
Namespaces?  ORM?
RESTful routing?
Bah!  The rockiest language for web development is a C wannabe where everyone rolls their own session management!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420398</id>
	<title>Re:What is Up with Go.com?</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1268134860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>How does a site that looks like that still rank number 15 in the United States?</p></div></blockquote><p>Looks like what - clean and clearly organized?  Why do you find that a problem?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How does a site that looks like that still rank number 15 in the United States ? Looks like what - clean and clearly organized ?
Why do you find that a problem ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How does a site that looks like that still rank number 15 in the United States?Looks like what - clean and clearly organized?
Why do you find that a problem?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419390</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419566</id>
	<title>Kozmo.com</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1268131080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like we have these retrospectives on the dot-com bubble every 1-2 years - guess it's being driven by all the still-unemployed programmers.</p><p>I will mention (as I do in every dot-com retrospective thread) a bunch of my coworkers did their best to bankrupt Kozmo.com - unintentionally, of course. But with no minimum charge, it was the "go to" place whenever anyone was jonesing for a pint of Ben and Jerry's or even a Snickers bar.</p><p>Oh, and we can't have one of these threads without mentioning Eazel!</p><p>It's amazing how so many of these companies had no business plan whatsoever. It's REALLY amazing that, back then, some people were actually defending this practice! People who asked "what's the long term business plan" were ridiculed as being small minded or being guilty of outmoded thinking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like we have these retrospectives on the dot-com bubble every 1-2 years - guess it 's being driven by all the still-unemployed programmers.I will mention ( as I do in every dot-com retrospective thread ) a bunch of my coworkers did their best to bankrupt Kozmo.com - unintentionally , of course .
But with no minimum charge , it was the " go to " place whenever anyone was jonesing for a pint of Ben and Jerry 's or even a Snickers bar.Oh , and we ca n't have one of these threads without mentioning Eazel ! It 's amazing how so many of these companies had no business plan whatsoever .
It 's REALLY amazing that , back then , some people were actually defending this practice !
People who asked " what 's the long term business plan " were ridiculed as being small minded or being guilty of outmoded thinking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like we have these retrospectives on the dot-com bubble every 1-2 years - guess it's being driven by all the still-unemployed programmers.I will mention (as I do in every dot-com retrospective thread) a bunch of my coworkers did their best to bankrupt Kozmo.com - unintentionally, of course.
But with no minimum charge, it was the "go to" place whenever anyone was jonesing for a pint of Ben and Jerry's or even a Snickers bar.Oh, and we can't have one of these threads without mentioning Eazel!It's amazing how so many of these companies had no business plan whatsoever.
It's REALLY amazing that, back then, some people were actually defending this practice!
People who asked "what's the long term business plan" were ridiculed as being small minded or being guilty of outmoded thinking.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419970</id>
	<title>Re:Where were YOU when the bomb dropped?</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1268133060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Saw the ship sinking, jumped it and went on extended cheap backpacking.  Rode out good part of the bust.  Good times.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Saw the ship sinking , jumped it and went on extended cheap backpacking .
Rode out good part of the bust .
Good times .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Saw the ship sinking, jumped it and went on extended cheap backpacking.
Rode out good part of the bust.
Good times.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419600</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420834</id>
	<title>Re:Ha, My .com artifacts lasted longer...</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1268137260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah webvan. I thought it was stupid.  It folded.  YET, <a href="http://shop.safeway.com/" title="safeway.com" rel="nofollow">Safeway delivers</a> [safeway.com].</p><p>I saw webvan trucks in the wild.  I even had a roommate a few years ago have groceries delivered from Safeway.</p><p>Has the kozmo.com domain come up for renewal yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah webvan .
I thought it was stupid .
It folded .
YET , Safeway delivers [ safeway.com ] .I saw webvan trucks in the wild .
I even had a roommate a few years ago have groceries delivered from Safeway.Has the kozmo.com domain come up for renewal yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah webvan.
I thought it was stupid.
It folded.
YET, Safeway delivers [safeway.com].I saw webvan trucks in the wild.
I even had a roommate a few years ago have groceries delivered from Safeway.Has the kozmo.com domain come up for renewal yet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31423426</id>
	<title>Re:WE ARE STILL ROCK STARS!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268161740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>can you spell delusional?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>can you spell delusional ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>can you spell delusional?</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420186</id>
	<title>Re:Kozmo.com</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268134020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, you laugh, but....</p><p>Twitter's business plan involves keeping expenses low and profiting on margin.</p><p>Most of the companies that died when the bubble burst were doing things that could not be maintained under any circumstances.  Companies would actually PAY YOU 50 cents an hour to run a banner bar when they weren't making that much money on the ads you were ignoring, or deliver your groceries to you without charging for shipping and with no order minimum, or buy million-dollar ads in the Superbowl that didn't even mention their company or what they did.</p><p>Compared to that, Twitter is a marvel of planning and execution.  I'm not saying in the real world it is, but compared to the companies that died with the bubble, they are.  And they'll probably do OK.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , you laugh , but....Twitter 's business plan involves keeping expenses low and profiting on margin.Most of the companies that died when the bubble burst were doing things that could not be maintained under any circumstances .
Companies would actually PAY YOU 50 cents an hour to run a banner bar when they were n't making that much money on the ads you were ignoring , or deliver your groceries to you without charging for shipping and with no order minimum , or buy million-dollar ads in the Superbowl that did n't even mention their company or what they did.Compared to that , Twitter is a marvel of planning and execution .
I 'm not saying in the real world it is , but compared to the companies that died with the bubble , they are .
And they 'll probably do OK .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, you laugh, but....Twitter's business plan involves keeping expenses low and profiting on margin.Most of the companies that died when the bubble burst were doing things that could not be maintained under any circumstances.
Companies would actually PAY YOU 50 cents an hour to run a banner bar when they weren't making that much money on the ads you were ignoring, or deliver your groceries to you without charging for shipping and with no order minimum, or buy million-dollar ads in the Superbowl that didn't even mention their company or what they did.Compared to that, Twitter is a marvel of planning and execution.
I'm not saying in the real world it is, but compared to the companies that died with the bubble, they are.
And they'll probably do OK.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421008</id>
	<title>Re:I'm just waiting on this .info thing to peak</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268138280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm waiting for the "Cloud" craze to peak.</p><p>Not joking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm waiting for the " Cloud " craze to peak.Not joking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm waiting for the "Cloud" craze to peak.Not joking.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31422244</id>
	<title>If only that were true</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268148180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"the only people left were the good ones"</p><p>That's a comforting myth people tell themselves. The reality is that IT/Software is susceptible to the economics of Greshams Law, which essentially means the incompetent and dishonest prosper while the competent and honest are punished.</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's\_law</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" the only people left were the good ones " That 's a comforting myth people tell themselves .
The reality is that IT/Software is susceptible to the economics of Greshams Law , which essentially means the incompetent and dishonest prosper while the competent and honest are punished.http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham 's \ _law</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"the only people left were the good ones"That's a comforting myth people tell themselves.
The reality is that IT/Software is susceptible to the economics of Greshams Law, which essentially means the incompetent and dishonest prosper while the competent and honest are punished.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham's\_law</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31421712</id>
	<title>Its a brand new Valley!</title>
	<author>Baldrson</author>
	<datestamp>1268143200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>But hey, we were left with a wonderful legacy!
<p>
<a href="http://www.objectwatch.com/whitepapers/ITComplexityWhitePaper.pdf" title="objectwatch.com">IT project failures lose over $6e12/year worldwide.</a> [objectwatch.com]
</p><p>
This, of course, has little to do with the quality of programmers and if you think it does, then you're most likely an unemployed, childless white programmer suffering from age-related cognitive decline who has lived a life of sexual frustration.
</p><p>
Just die now and stop sharing your misery with the rest of the world in your psycho suicide attacks on the government.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But hey , we were left with a wonderful legacy !
IT project failures lose over $ 6e12/year worldwide .
[ objectwatch.com ] This , of course , has little to do with the quality of programmers and if you think it does , then you 're most likely an unemployed , childless white programmer suffering from age-related cognitive decline who has lived a life of sexual frustration .
Just die now and stop sharing your misery with the rest of the world in your psycho suicide attacks on the government .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But hey, we were left with a wonderful legacy!
IT project failures lose over $6e12/year worldwide.
[objectwatch.com]

This, of course, has little to do with the quality of programmers and if you think it does, then you're most likely an unemployed, childless white programmer suffering from age-related cognitive decline who has lived a life of sexual frustration.
Just die now and stop sharing your misery with the rest of the world in your psycho suicide attacks on the government.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31422220</id>
	<title>An Economic Titanic.</title>
	<author>Ostracus</author>
	<datestamp>1268147940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes I remember the period. Just after the fear that was Y2K and the resulting infrastructure build-out the bubble brought. Then 9/11 and the bottom fell out of the economy and didn't really recover for several years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes I remember the period .
Just after the fear that was Y2K and the resulting infrastructure build-out the bubble brought .
Then 9/11 and the bottom fell out of the economy and did n't really recover for several years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes I remember the period.
Just after the fear that was Y2K and the resulting infrastructure build-out the bubble brought.
Then 9/11 and the bottom fell out of the economy and didn't really recover for several years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420584</id>
	<title>Re:So does anyone want to buy</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1268135880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>done.  Though you may wish to wash my sock-puppet before touching it...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>done .
Though you may wish to wash my sock-puppet before touching it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>done.
Though you may wish to wash my sock-puppet before touching it...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419670</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268131560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It depends: Did you do the same thing in mortgage banking a couple of years ago?</p><p>And you've learned some important lessons about investing, like:<br>1. Don't trust hype.<br>2. No, really, don't trust hype.<br>3. If you invest on momentum, you've probably already missed the boat.<br>4. Profitable companies are better investments than unprofitable companies for a reason.<br>5. Don't be afraid to be conservative. You might not make as much as the folks who risk a lot, but you're much more likely to hang onto your cash.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends : Did you do the same thing in mortgage banking a couple of years ago ? And you 've learned some important lessons about investing , like : 1 .
Do n't trust hype.2 .
No , really , do n't trust hype.3 .
If you invest on momentum , you 've probably already missed the boat.4 .
Profitable companies are better investments than unprofitable companies for a reason.5 .
Do n't be afraid to be conservative .
You might not make as much as the folks who risk a lot , but you 're much more likely to hang onto your cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends: Did you do the same thing in mortgage banking a couple of years ago?And you've learned some important lessons about investing, like:1.
Don't trust hype.2.
No, really, don't trust hype.3.
If you invest on momentum, you've probably already missed the boat.4.
Profitable companies are better investments than unprofitable companies for a reason.5.
Don't be afraid to be conservative.
You might not make as much as the folks who risk a lot, but you're much more likely to hang onto your cash.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420774</id>
	<title>I spent a few minutes at Double Click ...</title>
	<author>QuatermassX</author>
	<datestamp>1268136900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... creating Photoshop mockups of advertisements in the late 1990s. I remember being in a bullpen with a bunch of underdressed young folk who did little but check the stock price obsessively. It was a strange time and I created more than a few Director-generated<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.exe screensavers.

</p><p>To say nothing of the unorthodox eBay shop I set up, only to be shuttered by The Man.

</p><p>Oh those heady days<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... creating Photoshop mockups of advertisements in the late 1990s .
I remember being in a bullpen with a bunch of underdressed young folk who did little but check the stock price obsessively .
It was a strange time and I created more than a few Director-generated .exe screensavers .
To say nothing of the unorthodox eBay shop I set up , only to be shuttered by The Man .
Oh those heady days .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... creating Photoshop mockups of advertisements in the late 1990s.
I remember being in a bullpen with a bunch of underdressed young folk who did little but check the stock price obsessively.
It was a strange time and I created more than a few Director-generated .exe screensavers.
To say nothing of the unorthodox eBay shop I set up, only to be shuttered by The Man.
Oh those heady days ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31422612</id>
	<title>Hmmmmm...</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1268151780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... and &mdash; who could forget? &mdash; Whoopi Goldberg's Flooz.</p></div><p>Myself, for one. I didn't think this would be memorable to anyone, let alone unforgettable.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... and    who could forget ?
   Whoopi Goldberg 's Flooz.Myself , for one .
I did n't think this would be memorable to anyone , let alone unforgettable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... and — who could forget?
— Whoopi Goldberg's Flooz.Myself, for one.
I didn't think this would be memorable to anyone, let alone unforgettable.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31424556</id>
	<title>Re:It was a year...</title>
	<author>zoney\_ie</author>
	<datestamp>1268222340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The buzzword "Web 2.0" amuses me most - it's like all but calling it dot-com rerun. A lot of it is driven solely by Google's opaque advertising money machine and others hoping to do the same or hoping to find some way to monetise web services with large numbers of "consumers" (freeloaders).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The buzzword " Web 2.0 " amuses me most - it 's like all but calling it dot-com rerun .
A lot of it is driven solely by Google 's opaque advertising money machine and others hoping to do the same or hoping to find some way to monetise web services with large numbers of " consumers " ( freeloaders ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The buzzword "Web 2.0" amuses me most - it's like all but calling it dot-com rerun.
A lot of it is driven solely by Google's opaque advertising money machine and others hoping to do the same or hoping to find some way to monetise web services with large numbers of "consumers" (freeloaders).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420846</id>
	<title>Re:Being naive, I lost a lot of money that year</title>
	<author>CrimsonAvenger</author>
	<datestamp>1268137320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I lost of huge amount of money buying things at cyberrebate.com . Do you guys remember that company? Pay an insane amount of money upfront and get it all back as rebate a few months later - it worked well for the first few things I bought and then, when I went all in for the big ticket items, the company went under.</p></div></blockquote><p>It's called a pyramid scheme.
</p><p>Useful clue:  when someone offers you lots of money later if you'll give him lots of your money now, he's not your friend.
</p><p>It's a real shame that nowhere in the modern education system do they teach you the fundamentals of the basic cons....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I lost of huge amount of money buying things at cyberrebate.com .
Do you guys remember that company ?
Pay an insane amount of money upfront and get it all back as rebate a few months later - it worked well for the first few things I bought and then , when I went all in for the big ticket items , the company went under.It 's called a pyramid scheme .
Useful clue : when someone offers you lots of money later if you 'll give him lots of your money now , he 's not your friend .
It 's a real shame that nowhere in the modern education system do they teach you the fundamentals of the basic cons... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I lost of huge amount of money buying things at cyberrebate.com .
Do you guys remember that company?
Pay an insane amount of money upfront and get it all back as rebate a few months later - it worked well for the first few things I bought and then, when I went all in for the big ticket items, the company went under.It's called a pyramid scheme.
Useful clue:  when someone offers you lots of money later if you'll give him lots of your money now, he's not your friend.
It's a real shame that nowhere in the modern education system do they teach you the fundamentals of the basic cons....
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419876</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420890</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>largesnike</author>
	<datestamp>1268137500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>all the little monkeyboys who thought</p> </div><p>...

laugh while you can a-monkey boy!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>all the little monkeyboys who thought .. . laugh while you can a-monkey boy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>all the little monkeyboys who thought ...

laugh while you can a-monkey boy!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419492</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419848</id>
	<title>Wow!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268132280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I appreciate the non-FUD related articles that kdawson has been posting. Keep up the good work!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I appreciate the non-FUD related articles that kdawson has been posting .
Keep up the good work !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I appreciate the non-FUD related articles that kdawson has been posting.
Keep up the good work!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31423086</id>
	<title>MicroStrategy</title>
	<author>fotoguzzi</author>
	<datestamp>1268156640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My dim memories of the time was that Michael J. Saylor's MicroStrategy was going to datamine the present and pown the future. If I had heard of google by that time, I thought they were some obscure application that had to do with Macintoshes.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My dim memories of the time was that Michael J. Saylor 's MicroStrategy was going to datamine the present and pown the future .
If I had heard of google by that time , I thought they were some obscure application that had to do with Macintoshes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dim memories of the time was that Michael J. Saylor's MicroStrategy was going to datamine the present and pown the future.
If I had heard of google by that time, I thought they were some obscure application that had to do with Macintoshes.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419408</id>
	<title>Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>acomj</author>
	<datestamp>1268130420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jobs where plentiful, signing bonuses common, stock options flowed like champagne......</p><p>I miss it.</p><p>Then company I worked for had an all hands meeting and then proceed to hand out unemployment forms.. We weren't even a dot com, but lack of investment killed them.</p><p>Like waking from a wonderful dream....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jobs where plentiful , signing bonuses common , stock options flowed like champagne......I miss it.Then company I worked for had an all hands meeting and then proceed to hand out unemployment forms.. We were n't even a dot com , but lack of investment killed them.Like waking from a wonderful dream... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jobs where plentiful, signing bonuses common, stock options flowed like champagne......I miss it.Then company I worked for had an all hands meeting and then proceed to hand out unemployment forms.. We weren't even a dot com, but lack of investment killed them.Like waking from a wonderful dream....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419358</id>
	<title>I'm just waiting on this .info thing to peak</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>GoDaddy said these<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.info domains were the future!  And they let me have one for the low low price of $1.99!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>GoDaddy said these .info domains were the future !
And they let me have one for the low low price of $ 1.99 !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>GoDaddy said these .info domains were the future!
And they let me have one for the low low price of $1.99!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419712</id>
	<title>SFgirl, chronicling the dot-com boom 10 years ago</title>
	<author>Animats</author>
	<datestamp>1268131680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
For those of you who weren't there, see <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000303022524/http://www.sfgirl.com/" title="archive.org">SFgirl</a> [archive.org], the web site for dot-com <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000302132117/www.sfgirl.com/silicon.cgi" title="archive.org">party girls.</a> [archive.org]
</p><p>
Here's the <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000301172351/www.sfgirl.com/info.html" title="archive.org">dot-com party list for one week</a> [archive.org], ten years ago.
</p><p>
<a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20000302164006/www.sfgirl.com/webtrash.html" title="archive.org">Typical party review</a> [archive.org]:


<i>
<a href="http://www.mediaplex.com/" title="mediaplex.com">Mediaplex.com</a> [mediaplex.com]
</i></p><p><i>
Always one for a free night time invite into the SFMOMA, sfboy lined up with the rest of the VC bottom feeders and various webtrash last Wednesday evening to try his hand at the new phenomenon sweeping the city called "Let the Dot Coms Pay for Your Drinks". Inadequate staff with bad planning only worked to our advantage as CM slipped past the guestlist list like a bad desktop application business plan past an overzealous venture capitalist. Once inside sfboy experienced the largest spread of food yet to feed the frothing crowds shoved uncomfortably into a small room. Picture fields of ahi, buckets of fresh smoked salmon, oysters galore, cheese from every udder imaginable, sushi, dumplings, and chocolates, oh my! Add several ornate ice sculptures with internal martinis luges and you've got a real crowd pleaser! Hear, Hear, my stomach cries for Mediaplex! Take me in nightly, feed me completely, shower me with your VC cash!
</i></p><p><i>
Inside the museum itself child labor laws were overlooked at several dozen grommets flipped, spun and generally amused the masses with what appeared to be an orphanage filled with circus rats in training. I promptly notified the proper authorities.
</i></p><p><i>
Sfboy relunctantly admits that he has no idea what Mediaplex pretends to posses as a business model but he wishes them well in their attempts to create a virtual circus accompanied by a fine buffet.
</i></p><p><i>
Party Bill: $100,000<br>
Clowns: 100<br>
Professional Clowns: 25<br>
Bars: 4<br>
Party size: 650 <br>
</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For those of you who were n't there , see SFgirl [ archive.org ] , the web site for dot-com party girls .
[ archive.org ] Here 's the dot-com party list for one week [ archive.org ] , ten years ago .
Typical party review [ archive.org ] : Mediaplex.com [ mediaplex.com ] Always one for a free night time invite into the SFMOMA , sfboy lined up with the rest of the VC bottom feeders and various webtrash last Wednesday evening to try his hand at the new phenomenon sweeping the city called " Let the Dot Coms Pay for Your Drinks " .
Inadequate staff with bad planning only worked to our advantage as CM slipped past the guestlist list like a bad desktop application business plan past an overzealous venture capitalist .
Once inside sfboy experienced the largest spread of food yet to feed the frothing crowds shoved uncomfortably into a small room .
Picture fields of ahi , buckets of fresh smoked salmon , oysters galore , cheese from every udder imaginable , sushi , dumplings , and chocolates , oh my !
Add several ornate ice sculptures with internal martinis luges and you 've got a real crowd pleaser !
Hear , Hear , my stomach cries for Mediaplex !
Take me in nightly , feed me completely , shower me with your VC cash !
Inside the museum itself child labor laws were overlooked at several dozen grommets flipped , spun and generally amused the masses with what appeared to be an orphanage filled with circus rats in training .
I promptly notified the proper authorities .
Sfboy relunctantly admits that he has no idea what Mediaplex pretends to posses as a business model but he wishes them well in their attempts to create a virtual circus accompanied by a fine buffet .
Party Bill : $ 100,000 Clowns : 100 Professional Clowns : 25 Bars : 4 Party size : 650</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
For those of you who weren't there, see SFgirl [archive.org], the web site for dot-com party girls.
[archive.org]

Here's the dot-com party list for one week [archive.org], ten years ago.
Typical party review [archive.org]:



Mediaplex.com [mediaplex.com]

Always one for a free night time invite into the SFMOMA, sfboy lined up with the rest of the VC bottom feeders and various webtrash last Wednesday evening to try his hand at the new phenomenon sweeping the city called "Let the Dot Coms Pay for Your Drinks".
Inadequate staff with bad planning only worked to our advantage as CM slipped past the guestlist list like a bad desktop application business plan past an overzealous venture capitalist.
Once inside sfboy experienced the largest spread of food yet to feed the frothing crowds shoved uncomfortably into a small room.
Picture fields of ahi, buckets of fresh smoked salmon, oysters galore, cheese from every udder imaginable, sushi, dumplings, and chocolates, oh my!
Add several ornate ice sculptures with internal martinis luges and you've got a real crowd pleaser!
Hear, Hear, my stomach cries for Mediaplex!
Take me in nightly, feed me completely, shower me with your VC cash!
Inside the museum itself child labor laws were overlooked at several dozen grommets flipped, spun and generally amused the masses with what appeared to be an orphanage filled with circus rats in training.
I promptly notified the proper authorities.
Sfboy relunctantly admits that he has no idea what Mediaplex pretends to posses as a business model but he wishes them well in their attempts to create a virtual circus accompanied by a fine buffet.
Party Bill: $100,000
Clowns: 100
Professional Clowns: 25
Bars: 4
Party size: 650 
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419456</id>
	<title>dot com business model (no, not the ??? one)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let's sell dimes for a nickel and make it up in volume......</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's sell dimes for a nickel and make it up in volume..... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's sell dimes for a nickel and make it up in volume......</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419548</id>
	<title>Re:Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then other companies started sending jobs overseas.....</p><p>The smart few went into defense - security clearance needed. unfortunately, the secret is out and getting a job at a defense contractor is extremely competitive. I know people and I can't get in.,p/&gt;Serves me right for following my passion. I should have went to medical school.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then other companies started sending jobs overseas.....The smart few went into defense - security clearance needed .
unfortunately , the secret is out and getting a job at a defense contractor is extremely competitive .
I know people and I ca n't get in.,p/ &gt; Serves me right for following my passion .
I should have went to medical school .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then other companies started sending jobs overseas.....The smart few went into defense - security clearance needed.
unfortunately, the secret is out and getting a job at a defense contractor is extremely competitive.
I know people and I can't get in.,p/&gt;Serves me right for following my passion.
I should have went to medical school.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419408</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419492</id>
	<title>the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1268130780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How many people went from paper millionaires to "LOL..wut?" during this time?</p><p>The only good thing about the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff, in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $85k+/yr are no longer in the industry, for the most part.</p><p>Basically, after the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.bomb, the only people left were the <i>good</i> ones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many people went from paper millionaires to " LOL..wut ?
" during this time ? The only good thing about the .bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff , in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $ 85k + /yr are no longer in the industry , for the most part.Basically , after the .bomb , the only people left were the good ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many people went from paper millionaires to "LOL..wut?
" during this time?The only good thing about the .bomb was that it separated the wheat from the chaff, in that all the little monkeyboys who thought getting their MCSE meant $85k+/yr are no longer in the industry, for the most part.Basically, after the .bomb, the only people left were the good ones.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31423636</id>
	<title>Re:Ahhhh, dot.com</title>
	<author>GlassHeart</author>
	<datestamp>1268252400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My impression of the real tragedy of the time was the widespread belief that the Internet changed or will <b>change the rules</b>. Instead of actually selling things to real customers, "page views" meant something worth investing in. Every product became a loss leader to increase page views, and it was never clear how page views would turn back into money, much less more money than invested. In the end, only a few companies like Yahoo and Google managed to turn page views into money.</p><p>The other problem was that even if you were an established company at the time, you had to start acting like a dotcom, or you couldn't find or retain employees. You had to match the salaries, options, bonuses, and perks, so unless you were highly profitable, you end up having to do the same thing - appeal to VC - and later suffer the same fate.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My impression of the real tragedy of the time was the widespread belief that the Internet changed or will change the rules .
Instead of actually selling things to real customers , " page views " meant something worth investing in .
Every product became a loss leader to increase page views , and it was never clear how page views would turn back into money , much less more money than invested .
In the end , only a few companies like Yahoo and Google managed to turn page views into money.The other problem was that even if you were an established company at the time , you had to start acting like a dotcom , or you could n't find or retain employees .
You had to match the salaries , options , bonuses , and perks , so unless you were highly profitable , you end up having to do the same thing - appeal to VC - and later suffer the same fate .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My impression of the real tragedy of the time was the widespread belief that the Internet changed or will change the rules.
Instead of actually selling things to real customers, "page views" meant something worth investing in.
Every product became a loss leader to increase page views, and it was never clear how page views would turn back into money, much less more money than invested.
In the end, only a few companies like Yahoo and Google managed to turn page views into money.The other problem was that even if you were an established company at the time, you had to start acting like a dotcom, or you couldn't find or retain employees.
You had to match the salaries, options, bonuses, and perks, so unless you were highly profitable, you end up having to do the same thing - appeal to VC - and later suffer the same fate.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419908</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420096</id>
	<title>10 years already ?!?</title>
	<author>vikingpower</author>
	<datestamp>1268133660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sheesh. Either am I becoming an old man at 40, or time goes by so fast I don't notice between coding, women and booze ( not necessarily in that order, though ).</p><p>Sheesh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sheesh .
Either am I becoming an old man at 40 , or time goes by so fast I do n't notice between coding , women and booze ( not necessarily in that order , though ) .Sheesh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sheesh.
Either am I becoming an old man at 40, or time goes by so fast I don't notice between coding, women and booze ( not necessarily in that order, though ).Sheesh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419514</id>
	<title>Ha, My .com artifacts lasted longer...</title>
	<author>nweaver</author>
	<datestamp>1268130900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I still have, in my office, my pets.com sock puppet (still in box), the business cards for Petopia.com's CEO and CFO, my webvan box, and most precious, the receipt for 1 pack of lifesavers (5 flavor, $.48) delivered by Webvan for no-charge.</p><p>Ahh, those were good times...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I still have , in my office , my pets.com sock puppet ( still in box ) , the business cards for Petopia.com 's CEO and CFO , my webvan box , and most precious , the receipt for 1 pack of lifesavers ( 5 flavor , $ .48 ) delivered by Webvan for no-charge.Ahh , those were good times.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I still have, in my office, my pets.com sock puppet (still in box), the business cards for Petopia.com's CEO and CFO, my webvan box, and most precious, the receipt for 1 pack of lifesavers (5 flavor, $.48) delivered by Webvan for no-charge.Ahh, those were good times...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419612</id>
	<title>Still exist</title>
	<author>Darkness404</author>
	<datestamp>1268131260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> It's okay to sell products for less than what they cost you, because that will bring you lots of customers.</p> </div><p>

And really, its ok for the founders, they get lots of money. Look at YouTube.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's okay to sell products for less than what they cost you , because that will bring you lots of customers .
And really , its ok for the founders , they get lots of money .
Look at YouTube .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> It's okay to sell products for less than what they cost you, because that will bring you lots of customers.
And really, its ok for the founders, they get lots of money.
Look at YouTube.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419832</id>
	<title>Re:Where were YOU when the bomb dropped?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268132220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was working as a highly paid consultant and lost a bunch in my portfolio because I wasn't paying attention. Normally, I'd sell after a 10\% drop in any stock off the peak regardless of the reason. I didn't this time because I believed in the company.</p><p>As an example, I purchased 10,000 shrs of SUNW in 1993 at $3.12. In 2000, it closed at $97.25.  I didn't sell until 5 yrs later with an annualized gain of 23\%. Not bad until you look at the real dollars involved. At the peek, <b>I had a 3100\% gain.  Yes, I'm an idiot.</b></p><p>Anyone got me bet for stupidity?  I was feeling good and purchased a new car.</p><p>Bill Joy, you suck.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was working as a highly paid consultant and lost a bunch in my portfolio because I was n't paying attention .
Normally , I 'd sell after a 10 \ % drop in any stock off the peak regardless of the reason .
I did n't this time because I believed in the company.As an example , I purchased 10,000 shrs of SUNW in 1993 at $ 3.12 .
In 2000 , it closed at $ 97.25 .
I did n't sell until 5 yrs later with an annualized gain of 23 \ % .
Not bad until you look at the real dollars involved .
At the peek , I had a 3100 \ % gain .
Yes , I 'm an idiot.Anyone got me bet for stupidity ?
I was feeling good and purchased a new car.Bill Joy , you suck .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was working as a highly paid consultant and lost a bunch in my portfolio because I wasn't paying attention.
Normally, I'd sell after a 10\% drop in any stock off the peak regardless of the reason.
I didn't this time because I believed in the company.As an example, I purchased 10,000 shrs of SUNW in 1993 at $3.12.
In 2000, it closed at $97.25.
I didn't sell until 5 yrs later with an annualized gain of 23\%.
Not bad until you look at the real dollars involved.
At the peek, I had a 3100\% gain.
Yes, I'm an idiot.Anyone got me bet for stupidity?
I was feeling good and purchased a new car.Bill Joy, you suck.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420988</id>
	<title>Thanks for the painful reminder</title>
	<author>gsgriffin</author>
	<datestamp>1268138100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>while you're at it, why don't you give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it...</htmltext>
<tokenext>while you 're at it , why do n't you give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>while you're at it, why don't you give me a paper cut and pour lemon juice on it...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31420820</id>
	<title>It wasn't just the crazy ideas</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268137200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Some of it was just pure greed from the developers end.</p><p>I recall a shop-by-phone company in Boston. You could order your groceries over the phone. They would send you a booklet to pick. They were in business for over 20 years before going bust. When I talked to one of the people working there (on my last order) it turned out that they had invested in an online store. Which worked great at first but the cost of running it was way more then the profits they made. It wasn't evident until it was too late.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Some of it was just pure greed from the developers end.I recall a shop-by-phone company in Boston .
You could order your groceries over the phone .
They would send you a booklet to pick .
They were in business for over 20 years before going bust .
When I talked to one of the people working there ( on my last order ) it turned out that they had invested in an online store .
Which worked great at first but the cost of running it was way more then the profits they made .
It was n't evident until it was too late .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Some of it was just pure greed from the developers end.I recall a shop-by-phone company in Boston.
You could order your groceries over the phone.
They would send you a booklet to pick.
They were in business for over 20 years before going bust.
When I talked to one of the people working there (on my last order) it turned out that they had invested in an online store.
Which worked great at first but the cost of running it was way more then the profits they made.
It wasn't evident until it was too late.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31423120</id>
	<title>Re:the dotcom boom</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268157180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>in a asshat way your kinda right, I was in mcse "classes" when it happened, quickly switched to embedded systems and watched all these people flood the market</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>in a asshat way your kinda right , I was in mcse " classes " when it happened , quickly switched to embedded systems and watched all these people flood the market</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in a asshat way your kinda right, I was in mcse "classes" when it happened, quickly switched to embedded systems and watched all these people flood the market</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419492</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419556</id>
	<title>Re:What is Up with Go.com?</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1268131080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Take a closer look at the page? Does it say Disney on it?</p><p>Many of Disney's properties have their web presence on go.com. For instance:</p><p><a href="http://abc.go.com/" title="go.com" rel="nofollow">http://abc.go.com/</a> [go.com]</p><p>(and someone already pointed out ESPN)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Take a closer look at the page ?
Does it say Disney on it ? Many of Disney 's properties have their web presence on go.com .
For instance : http : //abc.go.com/ [ go.com ] ( and someone already pointed out ESPN )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Take a closer look at the page?
Does it say Disney on it?Many of Disney's properties have their web presence on go.com.
For instance:http://abc.go.com/ [go.com](and someone already pointed out ESPN)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419390</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419546</id>
	<title>Re:What is Up with Go.com?</title>
	<author>mu51c10rd</author>
	<datestamp>1268130960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may have heard of the following sites:<br><a href="http://espn.go.com/" title="go.com">http://espn.go.com/</a> [go.com]<br><a href="http://disney.go.com/index" title="go.com">http://disney.go.com/index</a> [go.com]<br><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/" title="go.com">http://abcnews.go.com/</a> [go.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may have heard of the following sites : http : //espn.go.com/ [ go.com ] http : //disney.go.com/index [ go.com ] http : //abcnews.go.com/ [ go.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may have heard of the following sites:http://espn.go.com/ [go.com]http://disney.go.com/index [go.com]http://abcnews.go.com/ [go.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31425064</id>
	<title>Best Investment during the dot com days</title>
	<author>stumblingmonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1268230620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Unlike everyone who flooded money into underwater stock options and technology stocks, my friends and I invested heavily into the college funds of exotic dancers (sure you're just doing this to pay for college...) and the children of many of the bartenders in our town. At the end of the day, I have about the same to show for it as the people who lost the proverbial farm as their 401k's went on a roller coaster ride from hell, but had one hell of a time getting there!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Unlike everyone who flooded money into underwater stock options and technology stocks , my friends and I invested heavily into the college funds of exotic dancers ( sure you 're just doing this to pay for college... ) and the children of many of the bartenders in our town .
At the end of the day , I have about the same to show for it as the people who lost the proverbial farm as their 401k 's went on a roller coaster ride from hell , but had one hell of a time getting there !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Unlike everyone who flooded money into underwater stock options and technology stocks, my friends and I invested heavily into the college funds of exotic dancers (sure you're just doing this to pay for college...) and the children of many of the bartenders in our town.
At the end of the day, I have about the same to show for it as the people who lost the proverbial farm as their 401k's went on a roller coaster ride from hell, but had one hell of a time getting there!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419532</id>
	<title>And</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Idiots like Harry Dent predicted that the NASDAQ would be 20,000 by now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Idiots like Harry Dent predicted that the NASDAQ would be 20,000 by now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Idiots like Harry Dent predicted that the NASDAQ would be 20,000 by now.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419490</id>
	<title>Re:Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268130780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's actually how I got into the industry, barely being qualified at the time, but they couldn't find anyone else.  Luckily, I work for the government... er, I mean a large bank and have had a secure job ever since.  I barely got a taste of the awesomeness that was being an IT worker before it all disappeared.  <br> <br>
I've been considering going into alternative energy or some other kind of "green" job.  IT salaries are completely stagnant (not that I'm saying we don't make good livings - we do), and with competition from India they're likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future.  What are other folks' take on this?  I like to have an upward direction, but once you hit about $100k/yr (maybe 120k in the Bay Area) there's no where else to go, it seems.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's actually how I got into the industry , barely being qualified at the time , but they could n't find anyone else .
Luckily , I work for the government... er , I mean a large bank and have had a secure job ever since .
I barely got a taste of the awesomeness that was being an IT worker before it all disappeared .
I 've been considering going into alternative energy or some other kind of " green " job .
IT salaries are completely stagnant ( not that I 'm saying we do n't make good livings - we do ) , and with competition from India they 're likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future .
What are other folks ' take on this ?
I like to have an upward direction , but once you hit about $ 100k/yr ( maybe 120k in the Bay Area ) there 's no where else to go , it seems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's actually how I got into the industry, barely being qualified at the time, but they couldn't find anyone else.
Luckily, I work for the government... er, I mean a large bank and have had a secure job ever since.
I barely got a taste of the awesomeness that was being an IT worker before it all disappeared.
I've been considering going into alternative energy or some other kind of "green" job.
IT salaries are completely stagnant (not that I'm saying we don't make good livings - we do), and with competition from India they're likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future.
What are other folks' take on this?
I like to have an upward direction, but once you hit about $100k/yr (maybe 120k in the Bay Area) there's no where else to go, it seems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419408</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419732</id>
	<title>Re:Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>rubycodez</author>
	<datestamp>1268131800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that happened to me too except they also gave us $8,500 each and then booted us out the door.  not all bad.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that happened to me too except they also gave us $ 8,500 each and then booted us out the door .
not all bad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that happened to me too except they also gave us $8,500 each and then booted us out the door.
not all bad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419408</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31422106</id>
	<title>And so</title>
	<author>mrfantasy</author>
	<datestamp>1268146440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This also means that it's the 10th anniversary of my first major investment:  Putting a small wad of money in a tech-heavy mutual fund.  Reader, it is I who precipitated the dot-com collapse, by my first foray into the market.  Sorry about that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This also means that it 's the 10th anniversary of my first major investment : Putting a small wad of money in a tech-heavy mutual fund .
Reader , it is I who precipitated the dot-com collapse , by my first foray into the market .
Sorry about that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This also means that it's the 10th anniversary of my first major investment:  Putting a small wad of money in a tech-heavy mutual fund.
Reader, it is I who precipitated the dot-com collapse, by my first foray into the market.
Sorry about that.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419658</id>
	<title>Re:Programmers where like Rock Stars...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1268131500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rockstars? Oh yeah? Where were my groupies?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rockstars ?
Oh yeah ?
Where were my groupies ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rockstars?
Oh yeah?
Where were my groupies?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_2054220.31419390</id>
	<title>What is Up with Go.com?</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1268130300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>

Okay on the list they have go.com as #8 biggest flop.  I go to www.go.com and sure enough it looks like I just typed in the wrong URL and got some domain parking crap.  And yet, on Alexa it's ranked <a href="http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/go.com" title="alexa.com">15th in the United States</a> [alexa.com].  Is Alexa horribly flawed or what is going on with www.go.com?  How does a site that looks like that still rank number 15 in the United States?  It's above Bing, CNN, Flickr and Wordpress.  Huh?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Okay on the list they have go.com as # 8 biggest flop .
I go to www.go.com and sure enough it looks like I just typed in the wrong URL and got some domain parking crap .
And yet , on Alexa it 's ranked 15th in the United States [ alexa.com ] .
Is Alexa horribly flawed or what is going on with www.go.com ?
How does a site that looks like that still rank number 15 in the United States ?
It 's above Bing , CNN , Flickr and Wordpress .
Huh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>

Okay on the list they have go.com as #8 biggest flop.
I go to www.go.com and sure enough it looks like I just typed in the wrong URL and got some domain parking crap.
And yet, on Alexa it's ranked 15th in the United States [alexa.com].
Is Alexa horribly flawed or what is going on with www.go.com?
How does a site that looks like that still rank number 15 in the United States?
It's above Bing, CNN, Flickr and Wordpress.
Huh?</sentencetext>
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