<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_09_1533205</id>
	<title>HTC Android Phones Found With Malware Pre-Installed</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1268153100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Trailrunner7 writes <i>"Security researchers have found that Vodafone, one of the world's larger wireless providers, is <a href="http://threatpost.com/en\_us/blogs/htc-phones-pre-installed-mariposa-bot-client-030910">distributing some HTC phones with malware pre-installed</a> on them. The phone, HTC's Magic, runs the Google Android mobile operating system, and is one of the more popular handsets right now. A researcher at Panda Software received one of the handsets recently, and upon attaching it to her PC, found that the phone was <a href="http://research.pandasecurity.com/vodafone-distributes-mariposa/">pre-loaded with the Mariposa bot client</a>. Mariposa has been in the news of late thanks to <a href="http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/03/03/0328246/Mariposa-Botnet-Beheaded">some arrests</a> connected to the operation of the botnet."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Trailrunner7 writes " Security researchers have found that Vodafone , one of the world 's larger wireless providers , is distributing some HTC phones with malware pre-installed on them .
The phone , HTC 's Magic , runs the Google Android mobile operating system , and is one of the more popular handsets right now .
A researcher at Panda Software received one of the handsets recently , and upon attaching it to her PC , found that the phone was pre-loaded with the Mariposa bot client .
Mariposa has been in the news of late thanks to some arrests connected to the operation of the botnet .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Trailrunner7 writes "Security researchers have found that Vodafone, one of the world's larger wireless providers, is distributing some HTC phones with malware pre-installed on them.
The phone, HTC's Magic, runs the Google Android mobile operating system, and is one of the more popular handsets right now.
A researcher at Panda Software received one of the handsets recently, and upon attaching it to her PC, found that the phone was pre-loaded with the Mariposa bot client.
Mariposa has been in the news of late thanks to some arrests connected to the operation of the botnet.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415824</id>
	<title>Re:It's not a bug</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait a minute, I thought Android already had spyware installed...wasn't it called: Google?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait a minute , I thought Android already had spyware installed...was n't it called : Google ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait a minute, I thought Android already had spyware installed...wasn't it called: Google?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415426</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31424482</id>
	<title>Re:Patented!</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1268221080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>look, man, if you know about this, you've obviously signed the NDA, so just shut up about it until WWC, yeah?</htmltext>
<tokenext>look , man , if you know about this , you 've obviously signed the NDA , so just shut up about it until WWC , yeah ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>look, man, if you know about this, you've obviously signed the NDA, so just shut up about it until WWC, yeah?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416022</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416008</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>517714</author>
	<datestamp>1268159100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Isn't that a bit like drawing the erroneous distinction that because Typhoid Mary was asymptomatic she was not sick?  She was a vector for the disease because the disease resided within her.  If the software resided on the phone it was installed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't that a bit like drawing the erroneous distinction that because Typhoid Mary was asymptomatic she was not sick ?
She was a vector for the disease because the disease resided within her .
If the software resided on the phone it was installed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Isn't that a bit like drawing the erroneous distinction that because Typhoid Mary was asymptomatic she was not sick?
She was a vector for the disease because the disease resided within her.
If the software resided on the phone it was installed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415682</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268157840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if it's an autorun file, that means only XP and earlier, and <b>very stupid</b> users are vulnerable. Vista and 7 don't execute Autorun.exe by default.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if it 's an autorun file , that means only XP and earlier , and very stupid users are vulnerable .
Vista and 7 do n't execute Autorun.exe by default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if it's an autorun file, that means only XP and earlier, and very stupid users are vulnerable.
Vista and 7 don't execute Autorun.exe by default.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415426</id>
	<title>It's not a bug</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1268156760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's an undocumented feature!</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an undocumented feature !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an undocumented feature!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415566</id>
	<title>You know Android has hit the big leagues</title>
	<author>0xdeadbeef</author>
	<datestamp>1268157300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When people are trying to slander it. They're blaming everyone under the sun, when the most likely vector is a store employee who simply plugged the device into a computer and copied the file to the flash drive.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When people are trying to slander it .
They 're blaming everyone under the sun , when the most likely vector is a store employee who simply plugged the device into a computer and copied the file to the flash drive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When people are trying to slander it.
They're blaming everyone under the sun, when the most likely vector is a store employee who simply plugged the device into a computer and copied the file to the flash drive.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415532</id>
	<title>Easy way to stop this from happening</title>
	<author>grahamsaa</author>
	<datestamp>1268157240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm personally getting fed up with companies that allow this to happen.  If companies that distribute devices that come pre-loaded with malware were fined heavily for each instance, they'd likely hire a few good devs and QA people to ensure that this sort of thing doesn't happen again. <br> <br>

There's absolutely no excuse for this.  If you contract out development or manufacturing and that leads to this kind of security risk, there's still no excuse.  Unfortunately as of right now there are few if any consequences associated with this type of negligence -- which means that companies aren't going to do much to improve their security practices.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm personally getting fed up with companies that allow this to happen .
If companies that distribute devices that come pre-loaded with malware were fined heavily for each instance , they 'd likely hire a few good devs and QA people to ensure that this sort of thing does n't happen again .
There 's absolutely no excuse for this .
If you contract out development or manufacturing and that leads to this kind of security risk , there 's still no excuse .
Unfortunately as of right now there are few if any consequences associated with this type of negligence -- which means that companies are n't going to do much to improve their security practices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm personally getting fed up with companies that allow this to happen.
If companies that distribute devices that come pre-loaded with malware were fined heavily for each instance, they'd likely hire a few good devs and QA people to ensure that this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
There's absolutely no excuse for this.
If you contract out development or manufacturing and that leads to this kind of security risk, there's still no excuse.
Unfortunately as of right now there are few if any consequences associated with this type of negligence -- which means that companies aren't going to do much to improve their security practices.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31424014</id>
	<title>Re:Aha, it's an ad for Panda software</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268214000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, how do they detect autorun.inf (a plain text file that isn't executable, and only contains an instruction to run the other file - and possibly a few text strings for menu options, and a file name for an icon) as malware?</p><p>Are they going to start detecting images as malware next time?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , how do they detect autorun.inf ( a plain text file that is n't executable , and only contains an instruction to run the other file - and possibly a few text strings for menu options , and a file name for an icon ) as malware ? Are they going to start detecting images as malware next time ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, how do they detect autorun.inf (a plain text file that isn't executable, and only contains an instruction to run the other file - and possibly a few text strings for menu options, and a file name for an icon) as malware?Are they going to start detecting images as malware next time?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416188</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416444</id>
	<title>C'mon slashdot.  1 phone, uncorroborated</title>
	<author>beakerMeep</author>
	<datestamp>1268160720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dont go the way of kdawson, soulskill.

<br> <br>

Next we'll be reading stuff like "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious. He might have Mariposa, or Confiker or something.  Better get Ferris some AntiVirus software from PandaAV"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dont go the way of kdawson , soulskill .
Next we 'll be reading stuff like " My best friend 's sister 's boyfriend 's brother 's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who 's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night .
I guess it 's pretty serious .
He might have Mariposa , or Confiker or something .
Better get Ferris some AntiVirus software from PandaAV "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dont go the way of kdawson, soulskill.
Next we'll be reading stuff like "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night.
I guess it's pretty serious.
He might have Mariposa, or Confiker or something.
Better get Ferris some AntiVirus software from PandaAV"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416966</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>BlackBloq</author>
	<datestamp>1268163360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>RTFA<br>Har<br>less than 1\% - of the Video iPods available for purchase after September 12, 2006</htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFAHarless than 1 \ % - of the Video iPods available for purchase after September 12 , 2006</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFAHarless than 1\% - of the Video iPods available for purchase after September 12, 2006</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31417500</id>
	<title>Re:Sue the company</title>
	<author>fortyonejb</author>
	<datestamp>1268165640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Technically HTC is Taiwanese, which although it is near China, it is NOT China.  The Taiwanese are not known to be causing the same issues that the Chinese are.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Technically HTC is Taiwanese , which although it is near China , it is NOT China .
The Taiwanese are not known to be causing the same issues that the Chinese are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technically HTC is Taiwanese, which although it is near China, it is NOT China.
The Taiwanese are not known to be causing the same issues that the Chinese are.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415662</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416434</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1268160660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>accidental mod correcting</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>accidental mod correcting</tokentext>
<sentencetext>accidental mod correcting</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416018</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31435462</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>webreaper</author>
	<datestamp>1268298600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>RTFA, and you'll see it was a refurbished handset. And the article summary is misleading when it says "is selling phones with". This was <b>one</b> instance, <b>one device</b>.</htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFA , and you 'll see it was a refurbished handset .
And the article summary is misleading when it says " is selling phones with " .
This was one instance , one device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFA, and you'll see it was a refurbished handset.
And the article summary is misleading when it says "is selling phones with".
This was one instance, one device.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415562</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31417550</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268165820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>No, he was right. He said it doesn't execute it by default. It doesn't. It ASKS you if you want to execute it. However, in enterprises this is generally turned off. We still have some XP machines (18,000 or so) although we are mostly Vista (70,000 or so) - and autorun, autoplay and the like are all turned off. oh, and users aren't administrators either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , he was right .
He said it does n't execute it by default .
It does n't .
It ASKS you if you want to execute it .
However , in enterprises this is generally turned off .
We still have some XP machines ( 18,000 or so ) although we are mostly Vista ( 70,000 or so ) - and autorun , autoplay and the like are all turned off .
oh , and users are n't administrators either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, he was right.
He said it doesn't execute it by default.
It doesn't.
It ASKS you if you want to execute it.
However, in enterprises this is generally turned off.
We still have some XP machines (18,000 or so) although we are mostly Vista (70,000 or so) - and autorun, autoplay and the like are all turned off.
oh, and users aren't administrators either.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415818</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415716</id>
	<title>I have one of these</title>
	<author>Myion</author>
	<datestamp>1268157960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>As a long-term customer of vodafone I never experienced or even expected this level of incompetence from them before. I also bought a HTC Magic from them and feel like suing them right now.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As a long-term customer of vodafone I never experienced or even expected this level of incompetence from them before .
I also bought a HTC Magic from them and feel like suing them right now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a long-term customer of vodafone I never experienced or even expected this level of incompetence from them before.
I also bought a HTC Magic from them and feel like suing them right now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415952</id>
	<title>Re:dacoda</title>
	<author>SnarfQuest</author>
	<datestamp>1268158860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Worse case: It can install Windows on your phone, so that it can run.</p><p>Note: In this case, the virus is the least of your problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Worse case : It can install Windows on your phone , so that it can run.Note : In this case , the virus is the least of your problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Worse case: It can install Windows on your phone, so that it can run.Note: In this case, the virus is the least of your problems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415738</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31417302</id>
	<title>Re:Now THAT's Multitasking!</title>
	<author>PitaBred</author>
	<datestamp>1268164800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Cue". As in, signal to start. "Queue" is an in-order line of some sort, like the queue for an amusement park ride.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Cue " .
As in , signal to start .
" Queue " is an in-order line of some sort , like the queue for an amusement park ride .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Cue".
As in, signal to start.
"Queue" is an in-order line of some sort, like the queue for an amusement park ride.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415598</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31425168</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1268231580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is the distinction we need people to understand, unfortunately, not many want to spend the time to get to know this, and the fact the phone is still good, they would bring it back and ask for a new one instead.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is the distinction we need people to understand , unfortunately , not many want to spend the time to get to know this , and the fact the phone is still good , they would bring it back and ask for a new one instead .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is the distinction we need people to understand, unfortunately, not many want to spend the time to get to know this, and the fact the phone is still good, they would bring it back and ask for a new one instead.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416526</id>
	<title>Re:Easy way to stop this from happening</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268161200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There's absolutely no excuse for this.</i></p><p>Nonsense. I came up with several:</p><p>1) My dog ate the QC test procedure.<br>2) The QC staff got stuck in traffic.<br>3) It was the new guy's fault.<br>4) Bob filled out the old TPS reports instead of the one with the new cover sheet.</p><p>See? There are excuses for this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's absolutely no excuse for this.Nonsense .
I came up with several : 1 ) My dog ate the QC test procedure.2 ) The QC staff got stuck in traffic.3 ) It was the new guy 's fault.4 ) Bob filled out the old TPS reports instead of the one with the new cover sheet.See ?
There are excuses for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's absolutely no excuse for this.Nonsense.
I came up with several:1) My dog ate the QC test procedure.2) The QC staff got stuck in traffic.3) It was the new guy's fault.4) Bob filled out the old TPS reports instead of the one with the new cover sheet.See?
There are excuses for this.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415532</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415748</id>
	<title>Re:Please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They weren't talking about linux, they were talking about Android's JVM.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They were n't talking about linux , they were talking about Android 's JVM .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They weren't talking about linux, they were talking about Android's JVM.
:D</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31417690</id>
	<title>Re:It's not a bug</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1268166480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFS: <i>"Security researchers have found that Vodafone, one of the world's larger wireless providers, is distributing some HTC phones with malware pre-installed on them.</i></p><p>Does Sony own Vodaphone? If so you're probably right; XCP was put in music CDs on purpose. I wouldn't be surprised if this malware was put there on purpose, too, even if Sony doesn't own Vodaphone.</p><p>Yes, I'm a cynical old fart, but that comes from getting screwed over for decades. Ah, to be young and idealistic again!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFS : " Security researchers have found that Vodafone , one of the world 's larger wireless providers , is distributing some HTC phones with malware pre-installed on them.Does Sony own Vodaphone ?
If so you 're probably right ; XCP was put in music CDs on purpose .
I would n't be surprised if this malware was put there on purpose , too , even if Sony does n't own Vodaphone.Yes , I 'm a cynical old fart , but that comes from getting screwed over for decades .
Ah , to be young and idealistic again !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFS: "Security researchers have found that Vodafone, one of the world's larger wireless providers, is distributing some HTC phones with malware pre-installed on them.Does Sony own Vodaphone?
If so you're probably right; XCP was put in music CDs on purpose.
I wouldn't be surprised if this malware was put there on purpose, too, even if Sony doesn't own Vodaphone.Yes, I'm a cynical old fart, but that comes from getting screwed over for decades.
Ah, to be young and idealistic again!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415426</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31419262</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268129820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>what do you expect from Vodafone actually? I mean they are big so why should they care.<br>Their service sucked big time before and now they also help infect machines of gullible that use this crappy service.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>what do you expect from Vodafone actually ?
I mean they are big so why should they care.Their service sucked big time before and now they also help infect machines of gullible that use this crappy service .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what do you expect from Vodafone actually?
I mean they are big so why should they care.Their service sucked big time before and now they also help infect machines of gullible that use this crappy service.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415562</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</id>
	<title>Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1268156820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The software in question was an autorun file, so it wasn't installed on the phone, it was just present on the phone's flash drive waiting to try to infect any OS stupid enough to automatically run programs from untrusted devices.  It's not like the phone was running a botnet client and using up your data allowance sending spam, it was just a carrier.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The software in question was an autorun file , so it was n't installed on the phone , it was just present on the phone 's flash drive waiting to try to infect any OS stupid enough to automatically run programs from untrusted devices .
It 's not like the phone was running a botnet client and using up your data allowance sending spam , it was just a carrier .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The software in question was an autorun file, so it wasn't installed on the phone, it was just present on the phone's flash drive waiting to try to infect any OS stupid enough to automatically run programs from untrusted devices.
It's not like the phone was running a botnet client and using up your data allowance sending spam, it was just a carrier.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415738</id>
	<title>dacoda</title>
	<author>dacoda</author>
	<datestamp>1268158020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What can these Malware possibly do to my phone?




<br> <br> <a href="http://travelbooth-asia.com/" title="travelbooth-asia.com" rel="nofollow">Hotel,Resort,Accommodation, Package Tour</a> [travelbooth-asia.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>What can these Malware possibly do to my phone ?
Hotel,Resort,Accommodation , Package Tour [ travelbooth-asia.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What can these Malware possibly do to my phone?
Hotel,Resort,Accommodation, Package Tour [travelbooth-asia.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416018</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Lunix Nutcase</author>
	<datestamp>1268159100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> it was just present on the phone's flash drive waiting to try to infect any OS stupid enough to automatically run programs from untrusted devices.</p></div><p>Since when is my own phone an "untrusted device"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it was just present on the phone 's flash drive waiting to try to infect any OS stupid enough to automatically run programs from untrusted devices.Since when is my own phone an " untrusted device " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> it was just present on the phone's flash drive waiting to try to infect any OS stupid enough to automatically run programs from untrusted devices.Since when is my own phone an "untrusted device"?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415950</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>nicolas.kassis</author>
	<datestamp>1268158860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok... go lookup the story about iPods loaded with trojans that got through QA.

<a href="http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2006/10/19/187622.aspx" title="msmvps.com">http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2006/10/19/187622.aspx</a> [msmvps.com]

This has nothing to do with android/apple and everything to do with crappy manufacturing using infected windows PC that will infect any usb connected device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok... go lookup the story about iPods loaded with trojans that got through QA .
http : //msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2006/10/19/187622.aspx [ msmvps.com ] This has nothing to do with android/apple and everything to do with crappy manufacturing using infected windows PC that will infect any usb connected device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok... go lookup the story about iPods loaded with trojans that got through QA.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/spywaresucks/archive/2006/10/19/187622.aspx [msmvps.com]

This has nothing to do with android/apple and everything to do with crappy manufacturing using infected windows PC that will infect any usb connected device.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415758</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415562</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>56</author>
	<datestamp>1268157300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Either way, that's pretty crazy. I wonder if it's a case of a rogue employee putting it there, or if it somehow got installed unntentionally by Vodafone. Or maybe the phone was used, returned, and re-sold without having the micro sd card formatted.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Either way , that 's pretty crazy .
I wonder if it 's a case of a rogue employee putting it there , or if it somehow got installed unntentionally by Vodafone .
Or maybe the phone was used , returned , and re-sold without having the micro sd card formatted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either way, that's pretty crazy.
I wonder if it's a case of a rogue employee putting it there, or if it somehow got installed unntentionally by Vodafone.
Or maybe the phone was used, returned, and re-sold without having the micro sd card formatted.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415616</id>
	<title>Android does</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268157480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>iPhone users still waiting on the port, but Android does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>iPhone users still waiting on the port , but Android does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>iPhone users still waiting on the port, but Android does.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416110</id>
	<title>Re:You know Android has hit the big leagues</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1268159460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yes, but it says phone<b>s</b>. No way the headline and summary would be referring to just one phone like that. No way at all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , but it says phones .
No way the headline and summary would be referring to just one phone like that .
No way at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, but it says phones.
No way the headline and summary would be referring to just one phone like that.
No way at all.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416524</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>ircmaxell</author>
	<datestamp>1268161140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's an untrusted device relative to the computer.  The computer doesn't know where it has been (That's why newer versions of Win and all versions of Linux ask you what to do)...  YOU may trust it, but a competent programmer will not.  A competent programmer will not trust ANYTHING not directly in the control of the program at all times (Don't trust anything that the user could possibly tamper with)...</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's an untrusted device relative to the computer .
The computer does n't know where it has been ( That 's why newer versions of Win and all versions of Linux ask you what to do ) ... YOU may trust it , but a competent programmer will not .
A competent programmer will not trust ANYTHING not directly in the control of the program at all times ( Do n't trust anything that the user could possibly tamper with ) .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's an untrusted device relative to the computer.
The computer doesn't know where it has been (That's why newer versions of Win and all versions of Linux ask you what to do)...  YOU may trust it, but a competent programmer will not.
A competent programmer will not trust ANYTHING not directly in the control of the program at all times (Don't trust anything that the user could possibly tamper with)...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416018</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416994</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1268163420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I see you want to install a Windows virus. Proceed?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I see you want to install a Windows virus .
Proceed ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I see you want to install a Windows virus.
Proceed?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415818</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31422798</id>
	<title>Re:It's not a bug</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268153520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its the "smart" in the smart phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its the " smart " in the smart phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its the "smart" in the smart phone.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415426</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415946</id>
	<title>Re:Easy way to stop this from happening</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1268158860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course there are consequences.  There's a huge PR hit, lost sales, the expense of remediating this -- including the class-action suit that's quite likely to follow.  There's also a loss of consumer and business trust.  Competitors can capitalize on this very easily, compounding the cost.
<p>
This is a self-correcting situation. Government fines not required.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course there are consequences .
There 's a huge PR hit , lost sales , the expense of remediating this -- including the class-action suit that 's quite likely to follow .
There 's also a loss of consumer and business trust .
Competitors can capitalize on this very easily , compounding the cost .
This is a self-correcting situation .
Government fines not required .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course there are consequences.
There's a huge PR hit, lost sales, the expense of remediating this -- including the class-action suit that's quite likely to follow.
There's also a loss of consumer and business trust.
Competitors can capitalize on this very easily, compounding the cost.
This is a self-correcting situation.
Government fines not required.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416418</id>
	<title>Re:Patented!</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1268160600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, it does not come preloaded, but there's an app for that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , it does not come preloaded , but there 's an app for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, it does not come preloaded, but there's an app for that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416022</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415736</id>
	<title>Malware?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Windows for phones is malware?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows for phones is malware ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows for phones is malware?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31417192</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268164320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>see also http://apple.slashdot.org/story/06/10/17/2148237/iPods-Come-Complete-With-Windows-Virus</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>see also http : //apple.slashdot.org/story/06/10/17/2148237/iPods-Come-Complete-With-Windows-Virus</tokentext>
<sentencetext>see also http://apple.slashdot.org/story/06/10/17/2148237/iPods-Come-Complete-With-Windows-Virus</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415950</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415584</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>DarthVain</author>
	<datestamp>1268157360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"untrusted devices"</p><p>Its not like this phone was bought on e-bay or some back ally. This is straight from the manufacture.</p><p>It baffles me that products get through QA and carry viruses, Trojans or other malware, I mean come on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" untrusted devices " Its not like this phone was bought on e-bay or some back ally .
This is straight from the manufacture.It baffles me that products get through QA and carry viruses , Trojans or other malware , I mean come on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"untrusted devices"Its not like this phone was bought on e-bay or some back ally.
This is straight from the manufacture.It baffles me that products get through QA and carry viruses, Trojans or other malware, I mean come on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415598</id>
	<title>Now THAT's Multitasking!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268157420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Enough said.<br> <br>
Queue the parade of iPhone drummers.<br> <br>
BTW, I wonder if this is one of the patents Apple is suing over</htmltext>
<tokenext>Enough said .
Queue the parade of iPhone drummers .
BTW , I wonder if this is one of the patents Apple is suing over</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Enough said.
Queue the parade of iPhone drummers.
BTW, I wonder if this is one of the patents Apple is suing over</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415818</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AutoRun#Windows\_Vista.2C\_Windows\_Server\_2008" title="wikipedia.org">Wrong</a> [wikipedia.org], it was replaced with Autorun.inf, and Vista/7 <em>do</em> execute it if you choose to &ldquo;Autoplay&rdquo; the device. I believe the dialog will appear first to ask you what you want to do, but &ldquo;Autoplay&rdquo; is the top choice and is selected by default.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wrong [ wikipedia.org ] , it was replaced with Autorun.inf , and Vista/7 do execute it if you choose to    Autoplay    the device .
I believe the dialog will appear first to ask you what you want to do , but    Autoplay    is the top choice and is selected by default .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wrong [wikipedia.org], it was replaced with Autorun.inf, and Vista/7 do execute it if you choose to “Autoplay” the device.
I believe the dialog will appear first to ask you what you want to do, but “Autoplay” is the top choice and is selected by default.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415682</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31420202</id>
	<title>Really misleading headline.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268134080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's a really bad headline.</p><p>The story says ONE phone had an infected MEMORY CARD.</p><p>That's not even close to the implications made by the story's headline wording.</p><p>Shame on you,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. editors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a really bad headline.The story says ONE phone had an infected MEMORY CARD.That 's not even close to the implications made by the story 's headline wording.Shame on you , / .
editors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a really bad headline.The story says ONE phone had an infected MEMORY CARD.That's not even close to the implications made by the story's headline wording.Shame on you, /.
editors.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415944</id>
	<title>Re:You know Android has hit the big leagues</title>
	<author>Sockatume</author>
	<datestamp>1268158800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's also conspicuous that it's only the Vodafone version of the handset, which suggests the fault lies much further down the chain than HTC.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's also conspicuous that it 's only the Vodafone version of the handset , which suggests the fault lies much further down the chain than HTC .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's also conspicuous that it's only the Vodafone version of the handset, which suggests the fault lies much further down the chain than HTC.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415662</id>
	<title>Sue the company</title>
	<author>WindBourne</author>
	<datestamp>1268157780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know, I find it amazing. China continues to load this spy bots on goods destined for the west. Yet, SO many westerners continue to buy it. Here is a thought. QUIT BUYING IT, or SUE THEM. If you start suing the company for infecting your  window systems, then companies will quit producing in China OR they will start caring about SECURITY.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , I find it amazing .
China continues to load this spy bots on goods destined for the west .
Yet , SO many westerners continue to buy it .
Here is a thought .
QUIT BUYING IT , or SUE THEM .
If you start suing the company for infecting your window systems , then companies will quit producing in China OR they will start caring about SECURITY .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, I find it amazing.
China continues to load this spy bots on goods destined for the west.
Yet, SO many westerners continue to buy it.
Here is a thought.
QUIT BUYING IT, or SUE THEM.
If you start suing the company for infecting your  window systems, then companies will quit producing in China OR they will start caring about SECURITY.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415758</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>People around here love to bitch about Apple and their control over their hand set, but this was one of the reasons they locked it down.  Especially in the early days when it wasn't a proven platform.  If the iPhone had been a free for all, malware would have quickly popped up and not only killed the iPhone, but like set all smart phones not made by RIM back a few years.  But long term I think there is going to be a malware problem on Android and then the Carriers will use that as an excuse to grab back control of the platform forcing users to only use "their App store".</p><p>And to those who say, "But don't run unsigned apps from sources you don't know".  Yeah, makes perfect sense to me, but how many people do we know downloaded the prettypuppiesscreensaver.exe only to get infected with a virus?  How long until we see some tweet linked to an android malware program that thousands of users install because they don't know any better?</p><p>You know, the more I get to thinking about it, the more sense Apple's policy of no background apps becomes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People around here love to bitch about Apple and their control over their hand set , but this was one of the reasons they locked it down .
Especially in the early days when it was n't a proven platform .
If the iPhone had been a free for all , malware would have quickly popped up and not only killed the iPhone , but like set all smart phones not made by RIM back a few years .
But long term I think there is going to be a malware problem on Android and then the Carriers will use that as an excuse to grab back control of the platform forcing users to only use " their App store " .And to those who say , " But do n't run unsigned apps from sources you do n't know " .
Yeah , makes perfect sense to me , but how many people do we know downloaded the prettypuppiesscreensaver.exe only to get infected with a virus ?
How long until we see some tweet linked to an android malware program that thousands of users install because they do n't know any better ? You know , the more I get to thinking about it , the more sense Apple 's policy of no background apps becomes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People around here love to bitch about Apple and their control over their hand set, but this was one of the reasons they locked it down.
Especially in the early days when it wasn't a proven platform.
If the iPhone had been a free for all, malware would have quickly popped up and not only killed the iPhone, but like set all smart phones not made by RIM back a few years.
But long term I think there is going to be a malware problem on Android and then the Carriers will use that as an excuse to grab back control of the platform forcing users to only use "their App store".And to those who say, "But don't run unsigned apps from sources you don't know".
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me, but how many people do we know downloaded the prettypuppiesscreensaver.exe only to get infected with a virus?
How long until we see some tweet linked to an android malware program that thousands of users install because they don't know any better?You know, the more I get to thinking about it, the more sense Apple's policy of no background apps becomes.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415446</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416188</id>
	<title>Aha, it's an ad for Panda software</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1268159760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Following the linked article, and following that to the original post, we find that first off, it's a <i>single</i> phone, not more than one that had this malware, and we are informed of the software that detected this, coincidentally the commercial product the researchers are working on:</p><blockquote><div><p>The interesting thing is that when she plugged the phone to her PC via USB her Panda Cloud Antivirus went off, detecting both an autorun.inf and autorun.exe as malicious</p></div>
</blockquote><p>I'm rushing out today to buy this software that can do such feats as detecting this malware. They have a Linux version, right?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Following the linked article , and following that to the original post , we find that first off , it 's a single phone , not more than one that had this malware , and we are informed of the software that detected this , coincidentally the commercial product the researchers are working on : The interesting thing is that when she plugged the phone to her PC via USB her Panda Cloud Antivirus went off , detecting both an autorun.inf and autorun.exe as malicious I 'm rushing out today to buy this software that can do such feats as detecting this malware .
They have a Linux version , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Following the linked article, and following that to the original post, we find that first off, it's a single phone, not more than one that had this malware, and we are informed of the software that detected this, coincidentally the commercial product the researchers are working on:The interesting thing is that when she plugged the phone to her PC via USB her Panda Cloud Antivirus went off, detecting both an autorun.inf and autorun.exe as malicious
I'm rushing out today to buy this software that can do such feats as detecting this malware.
They have a Linux version, right?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416400</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Dog-Cow</author>
	<datestamp>1268160540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you have no symptoms, you are not sick.  It doesn't matter what viruses or bacteria you may be playing host to.  That's exactly what vaccines are about: giving you immunity such that if you are infected with a virus it doesn't make you sick.</p><p>In short: you're completely and utterly wrong.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you have no symptoms , you are not sick .
It does n't matter what viruses or bacteria you may be playing host to .
That 's exactly what vaccines are about : giving you immunity such that if you are infected with a virus it does n't make you sick.In short : you 're completely and utterly wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you have no symptoms, you are not sick.
It doesn't matter what viruses or bacteria you may be playing host to.
That's exactly what vaccines are about: giving you immunity such that if you are infected with a virus it doesn't make you sick.In short: you're completely and utterly wrong.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416008</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31418300</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>magus\_melchior</author>
	<datestamp>1268125800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think in a mass-production environment (or even a repair/refurbish shop), an electronic device that can only format microSD cards would be great at combating this vulnerability. Maybe a PROM and a flash drive interface. This way, you never hook up the flash card to a possibly-infected PC, and the device itself has no operating system to speak of, it's just a device that electronically formats the bits on the card.</p><p>I'm probably being hopelessly naive, but that sounds like a great project. If you could miniaturize it so it fits inside a mobile phone, you could integrate it as a remote-wipe or remote-kill (rewrite everything in flash with zeros) for those corporate smartphones that need the security.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think in a mass-production environment ( or even a repair/refurbish shop ) , an electronic device that can only format microSD cards would be great at combating this vulnerability .
Maybe a PROM and a flash drive interface .
This way , you never hook up the flash card to a possibly-infected PC , and the device itself has no operating system to speak of , it 's just a device that electronically formats the bits on the card.I 'm probably being hopelessly naive , but that sounds like a great project .
If you could miniaturize it so it fits inside a mobile phone , you could integrate it as a remote-wipe or remote-kill ( rewrite everything in flash with zeros ) for those corporate smartphones that need the security .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think in a mass-production environment (or even a repair/refurbish shop), an electronic device that can only format microSD cards would be great at combating this vulnerability.
Maybe a PROM and a flash drive interface.
This way, you never hook up the flash card to a possibly-infected PC, and the device itself has no operating system to speak of, it's just a device that electronically formats the bits on the card.I'm probably being hopelessly naive, but that sounds like a great project.
If you could miniaturize it so it fits inside a mobile phone, you could integrate it as a remote-wipe or remote-kill (rewrite everything in flash with zeros) for those corporate smartphones that need the security.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415948</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And if that dialog came up when plugging in a new phone, I'd expect it to be installing software for the phone, so not only stupid people would be infected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And if that dialog came up when plugging in a new phone , I 'd expect it to be installing software for the phone , so not only stupid people would be infected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And if that dialog came up when plugging in a new phone, I'd expect it to be installing software for the phone, so not only stupid people would be infected.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415938</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I used to work for a very large fast food chain, developing software for their Point-Of-Sale system.  The company decided to switch from a system originally developed in-house to a third-party Windows-based system.  Shortly after they set up the QA lab with the new system (over 100 machines), the entire lab (except for the few machines still running the old system) were infected with a virus, presumably brought in on someone's thumb drive.</p><p>Anyone in the development/testing/manufacturing process could accidentally (or intentionally) install a virus into a commercial system.  Of course, it pretty much has to be a Windows-based system for any actual damage to occur.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I used to work for a very large fast food chain , developing software for their Point-Of-Sale system .
The company decided to switch from a system originally developed in-house to a third-party Windows-based system .
Shortly after they set up the QA lab with the new system ( over 100 machines ) , the entire lab ( except for the few machines still running the old system ) were infected with a virus , presumably brought in on someone 's thumb drive.Anyone in the development/testing/manufacturing process could accidentally ( or intentionally ) install a virus into a commercial system .
Of course , it pretty much has to be a Windows-based system for any actual damage to occur .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I used to work for a very large fast food chain, developing software for their Point-Of-Sale system.
The company decided to switch from a system originally developed in-house to a third-party Windows-based system.
Shortly after they set up the QA lab with the new system (over 100 machines), the entire lab (except for the few machines still running the old system) were infected with a virus, presumably brought in on someone's thumb drive.Anyone in the development/testing/manufacturing process could accidentally (or intentionally) install a virus into a commercial system.
Of course, it pretty much has to be a Windows-based system for any actual damage to occur.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31423980</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268213400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was always autorun.inf (the executable used was just typically named autorun.exe).  Since around at least Windows 95... and I don't think Windows 3.1 really supported CD-ROMs all that much.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was always autorun.inf ( the executable used was just typically named autorun.exe ) .
Since around at least Windows 95... and I do n't think Windows 3.1 really supported CD-ROMs all that much .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was always autorun.inf (the executable used was just typically named autorun.exe).
Since around at least Windows 95... and I don't think Windows 3.1 really supported CD-ROMs all that much.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415962</id>
	<title>Re:dacoda</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268158920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This malware makes you post a bullshit link to your travel site that nobody cares about. Looks like you're infected.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This malware makes you post a bullshit link to your travel site that nobody cares about .
Looks like you 're infected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This malware makes you post a bullshit link to your travel site that nobody cares about.
Looks like you're infected.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31418506</id>
	<title>Re:C'mon slashdot. 1 phone, uncorroborated</title>
	<author>\_Sprocket\_</author>
	<datestamp>1268126580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm always torn on these sorts of things.  I agree with the idea of adding a grain of salt to these sorts of things.  But at the same time, it gives us all a chance to weigh in and/or be exposed to stories that might make the rounds through other channels (I know, I know, "Other-news-aggregation-site had it first").  And while I sometimes tire of the noise, I also tend to find it more useful to be forearmed when said noise makes it in to some meeting or discussion and I don't feel broadsided by it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm always torn on these sorts of things .
I agree with the idea of adding a grain of salt to these sorts of things .
But at the same time , it gives us all a chance to weigh in and/or be exposed to stories that might make the rounds through other channels ( I know , I know , " Other-news-aggregation-site had it first " ) .
And while I sometimes tire of the noise , I also tend to find it more useful to be forearmed when said noise makes it in to some meeting or discussion and I do n't feel broadsided by it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm always torn on these sorts of things.
I agree with the idea of adding a grain of salt to these sorts of things.
But at the same time, it gives us all a chance to weigh in and/or be exposed to stories that might make the rounds through other channels (I know, I know, "Other-news-aggregation-site had it first").
And while I sometimes tire of the noise, I also tend to find it more useful to be forearmed when said noise makes it in to some meeting or discussion and I don't feel broadsided by it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415626</id>
	<title>Re:Please</title>
	<author>ElectricTurtle</author>
	<datestamp>1268157600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently you think the Mariposa botnet is a... Linux distro? What are you smoking?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently you think the Mariposa botnet is a... Linux distro ?
What are you smoking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently you think the Mariposa botnet is a... Linux distro?
What are you smoking?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416022</id>
	<title>Patented!</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1268159160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, is THIS what Apple was suing HTC over at the International Trade Commission?  Does Apple have a patent on preloaded malware on smartphones?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , is THIS what Apple was suing HTC over at the International Trade Commission ?
Does Apple have a patent on preloaded malware on smartphones ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, is THIS what Apple was suing HTC over at the International Trade Commission?
Does Apple have a patent on preloaded malware on smartphones?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415440</id>
	<title>Pre-installed</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1268156820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>No user intervention, IT JUST WORKS</htmltext>
<tokenext>No user intervention , IT JUST WORKS</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No user intervention, IT JUST WORKS</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415544</id>
	<title>Please</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1268157240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Linux is not a malware.  Such smear tactic at slashdot must stop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Linux is not a malware .
Such smear tactic at slashdot must stop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Linux is not a malware.
Such smear tactic at slashdot must stop.</sentencetext>
</comment>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415936</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>gparent</author>
	<datestamp>1268158800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You mean the device will autoplay if you tell it to autoplay? Oh my god!</htmltext>
<tokenext>You mean the device will autoplay if you tell it to autoplay ?
Oh my god !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You mean the device will autoplay if you tell it to autoplay?
Oh my god!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31416074</id>
	<title>Re:It's not a bug</title>
	<author>Monkeedude1212</author>
	<datestamp>1268159340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You think THATS bad - I got my HTC phone with Windows Mobile 6.1 Pre Installed!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You think THATS bad - I got my HTC phone with Windows Mobile 6.1 Pre Installed !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You think THATS bad - I got my HTC phone with Windows Mobile 6.1 Pre Installed!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415912</id>
	<title>Re:Technically, not installed...</title>
	<author>jbeaupre</author>
	<datestamp>1268158740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This has nothing to do with lockdown.  It came from the manufacturer this way.  iPhones can connect by USB, so the same could happen if the manufacturer were not careful.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This has nothing to do with lockdown .
It came from the manufacturer this way .
iPhones can connect by USB , so the same could happen if the manufacturer were not careful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has nothing to do with lockdown.
It came from the manufacturer this way.
iPhones can connect by USB, so the same could happen if the manufacturer were not careful.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31423460</id>
	<title>Re:Easy way to stop this from happening</title>
	<author>Mana Mana</author>
	<datestamp>1268162220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cher Wang get off your ass and fix this! Or are you too busy basking in your fortune making skills and the ?fud? storm apple unleashed on you and how that fouled up your American, OEM business?</p><p>Dazzle me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cher Wang get off your ass and fix this !
Or are you too busy basking in your fortune making skills and the ? fud ?
storm apple unleashed on you and how that fouled up your American , OEM business ? Dazzle me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cher Wang get off your ass and fix this!
Or are you too busy basking in your fortune making skills and the ?fud?
storm apple unleashed on you and how that fouled up your American, OEM business?Dazzle me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31415656</id>
	<title>When, where, how...</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1268157720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since this appears to be a lone incident, it&rsquo;s obvious that it didn&rsquo;t come &ldquo;straight&rdquo; from the manufacturer, and it might not even be their fault.</p><p>Then again... if a lot more of these infected phones start turning up, there probably <em>is</em> an infected computer somewhere at the manufacturer and the phones are being plugged into it in the process of setting them up.</p><p>First order of importance, of course, is to send somebody to the end of the assembly line and start checking random phones right before they&rsquo;re boxed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since this appears to be a lone incident , it    s obvious that it didn    t come    straight    from the manufacturer , and it might not even be their fault.Then again... if a lot more of these infected phones start turning up , there probably is an infected computer somewhere at the manufacturer and the phones are being plugged into it in the process of setting them up.First order of importance , of course , is to send somebody to the end of the assembly line and start checking random phones right before they    re boxed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since this appears to be a lone incident, it’s obvious that it didn’t come “straight” from the manufacturer, and it might not even be their fault.Then again... if a lot more of these infected phones start turning up, there probably is an infected computer somewhere at the manufacturer and the phones are being plugged into it in the process of setting them up.First order of importance, of course, is to send somebody to the end of the assembly line and start checking random phones right before they’re boxed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_09_1533205.31419790</id>
	<title>Re:Easy way to stop this from happening</title>
	<author>dbcad7</author>
	<datestamp>1268132100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And you do not find it suspicious at all that the the person this happened to works for the anti virus company whose software found this ?... If some random person, who happened to have some random anti virus program, of which was supplied by a company he did not work for, discovered this then it would be different.. I have zero trust in the honesty of major anti virus companies, let alone some smaller company that few people have heard of till now.. Thank god he had this great new anti virus program.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And you do not find it suspicious at all that the the person this happened to works for the anti virus company whose software found this ? .. .
If some random person , who happened to have some random anti virus program , of which was supplied by a company he did not work for , discovered this then it would be different.. I have zero trust in the honesty of major anti virus companies , let alone some smaller company that few people have heard of till now.. Thank god he had this great new anti virus program .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And you do not find it suspicious at all that the the person this happened to works for the anti virus company whose software found this ?...
If some random person, who happened to have some random anti virus program, of which was supplied by a company he did not work for, discovered this then it would be different.. I have zero trust in the honesty of major anti virus companies, let alone some smaller company that few people have heard of till now.. Thank god he had this great new anti virus program.</sentencetext>
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