<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_03_239201</id>
	<title>Narus Develops Social Media Sleuth</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1267618560000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>maximus1 writes <i>"Narus is developing a new technology code-named Hone that can be used to <a href="http://www.itworld.com/internet/98652/narus-develops-a-scary-sleuth-social-media">identify anonymous users of social networks</a> and Internet services. Hone can do some pretty 'scary' things, says Antonio Nucci, chief technology officer with Narus. Hone uses artificial intelligence to analyze e-mails and can link mails to different accounts, doing what Nucci calls topical analysis. 'It's going to go through a set of documents and automatically it's going to organize them in topics &mdash; I'm not talking about keywords as is done today, I'm talking about topics,' he said. That can't be done with today's technology, he said. 'If you search for fertilizers on Google ... it's going to come back with 6.5 million pages. Enjoy,' he said. 'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it's not even searchable.' Nucci will discuss Hone at the RSA Conference in San Francisco Friday."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>maximus1 writes " Narus is developing a new technology code-named Hone that can be used to identify anonymous users of social networks and Internet services .
Hone can do some pretty 'scary ' things , says Antonio Nucci , chief technology officer with Narus .
Hone uses artificial intelligence to analyze e-mails and can link mails to different accounts , doing what Nucci calls topical analysis .
'It 's going to go through a set of documents and automatically it 's going to organize them in topics    I 'm not talking about keywords as is done today , I 'm talking about topics, ' he said .
That ca n't be done with today 's technology , he said .
'If you search for fertilizers on Google ... it 's going to come back with 6.5 million pages .
Enjoy, ' he said .
'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it 's not even searchable .
' Nucci will discuss Hone at the RSA Conference in San Francisco Friday .
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<sentencetext>maximus1 writes "Narus is developing a new technology code-named Hone that can be used to identify anonymous users of social networks and Internet services.
Hone can do some pretty 'scary' things, says Antonio Nucci, chief technology officer with Narus.
Hone uses artificial intelligence to analyze e-mails and can link mails to different accounts, doing what Nucci calls topical analysis.
'It's going to go through a set of documents and automatically it's going to organize them in topics — I'm not talking about keywords as is done today, I'm talking about topics,' he said.
That can't be done with today's technology, he said.
'If you search for fertilizers on Google ... it's going to come back with 6.5 million pages.
Enjoy,' he said.
'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it's not even searchable.
' Nucci will discuss Hone at the RSA Conference in San Francisco Friday.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31358906</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>CalcuttaWala</author>
	<datestamp>1267723380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, you want to fix terrorism, then address the real reasons for hating your society; it's pretty simple, and the only thing that really works.</p></div><p>brother, that is easier said than done<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>
what if someone hates you simply because you are are Hindu or a Sikh ? do you expect me to give up my Hindu or Sikh identity ?<br>
what if someone hates you simply because you send your daughter to school and expect her to earn a honest living as a professional  ? do you expect me keep my daughter locked up in the house<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... and marry her off at puberty ?<br> <br>

get real brother, because the real world has people who need no real reason to hate you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , you want to fix terrorism , then address the real reasons for hating your society ; it 's pretty simple , and the only thing that really works.brother , that is easier said than done .. . what if someone hates you simply because you are are Hindu or a Sikh ?
do you expect me to give up my Hindu or Sikh identity ?
what if someone hates you simply because you send your daughter to school and expect her to earn a honest living as a professional ?
do you expect me keep my daughter locked up in the house ... and marry her off at puberty ?
get real brother , because the real world has people who need no real reason to hate you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, you want to fix terrorism, then address the real reasons for hating your society; it's pretty simple, and the only thing that really works.brother, that is easier said than done ...
what if someone hates you simply because you are are Hindu or a Sikh ?
do you expect me to give up my Hindu or Sikh identity ?
what if someone hates you simply because you send your daughter to school and expect her to earn a honest living as a professional  ?
do you expect me keep my daughter locked up in the house ... and marry her off at puberty ?
get real brother, because the real world has people who need no real reason to hate you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31357334</id>
	<title>Those paranoid bastards...</title>
	<author>KillerLoop</author>
	<datestamp>1267714200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... are going to ruin us all!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... are going to ruin us all !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... are going to ruin us all!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31374908</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>janerules</author>
	<datestamp>1267780020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And, pedophiles...</htmltext>
<tokenext>And , pedophiles.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And, pedophiles...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31355536</id>
	<title>Re:Sounds like Semantic Web to me.</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1267693560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's not even to mention that for anyone who isn't a complete moron (I know that sounds like a flame, but really it is an accurate description of the low level of intelligence necessary to figure out the correct search query).  <a href="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;rls=en&amp;q=fertilizer+bomb&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;oe=UTF-8" title="google.com">Here it is, fertilizer bomb recipes all over the place</a> [google.com], along with videos of said bombs in action.  It is in no way hidden, this guy is a dirty lying marketer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's not even to mention that for anyone who is n't a complete moron ( I know that sounds like a flame , but really it is an accurate description of the low level of intelligence necessary to figure out the correct search query ) .
Here it is , fertilizer bomb recipes all over the place [ google.com ] , along with videos of said bombs in action .
It is in no way hidden , this guy is a dirty lying marketer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's not even to mention that for anyone who isn't a complete moron (I know that sounds like a flame, but really it is an accurate description of the low level of intelligence necessary to figure out the correct search query).
Here it is, fertilizer bomb recipes all over the place [google.com], along with videos of said bombs in action.
It is in no way hidden, this guy is a dirty lying marketer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353058</id>
	<title>Money for nothing and the ...</title>
	<author>giorgist</author>
	<datestamp>1267624860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Man what a scam. One paragraph, a cheezy search algorythm<br>and approach the department of defence.<br><br>Put  in the title protect children from terrorists<br>and they wont even read past the front page.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Man what a scam .
One paragraph , a cheezy search algorythmand approach the department of defence.Put in the title protect children from terroristsand they wont even read past the front page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Man what a scam.
One paragraph, a cheezy search algorythmand approach the department of defence.Put  in the title protect children from terroristsand they wont even read past the front page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354036</id>
	<title>Re:Ummmm....</title>
	<author>chill</author>
	<datestamp>1267632660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Narus' entire customer base is pretty much government &amp; law enforcement.  Narus Insight is the toy used by the NSA to sniff Internet traffic.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Narus ' entire customer base is pretty much government &amp; law enforcement .
Narus Insight is the toy used by the NSA to sniff Internet traffic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Narus' entire customer base is pretty much government &amp; law enforcement.
Narus Insight is the toy used by the NSA to sniff Internet traffic.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352760</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31358554</id>
	<title>Re:But does it know me?</title>
	<author>AvitarX</author>
	<datestamp>1267721760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, this is impossible:<br><a href="http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS\_enUS365US365&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=home+garden+fertilizer+discussion" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS\_enUS365US365&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=home+garden+fertilizer+discussion</a> [google.com]</p><p>Though I assume they mean it in a way I won't search right now, as I'm in a public building using their internet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , this is impossible : http : //www.google.com/search ? rlz = 1C1GGLS \ _enUS365US365&amp;sourceid = chrome&amp;ie = UTF-8&amp;q = home + garden + fertilizer + discussion [ google.com ] Though I assume they mean it in a way I wo n't search right now , as I 'm in a public building using their internet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, this is impossible:http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGLS\_enUS365US365&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=home+garden+fertilizer+discussion [google.com]Though I assume they mean it in a way I won't search right now, as I'm in a public building using their internet.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354120</id>
	<title>Topics are cute but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267633860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They know your looking at IM, forums, google ect.
<a href="http://wikileaks.org/" title="wikileaks.org">http://wikileaks.org/</a> [wikileaks.org] google cache has a link to <br>

<a href="http://indect-project.eu/files/deliverables/public/INDECT\_Deliverable\_4.1\_v20090630a.pdf/at\_download/file" title="indect-project.eu">http://indect-project.eu/files/deliverables/public/INDECT\_Deliverable\_4.1\_v20090630a.pdf/at\_download/file</a> [indect-project.eu] <br>
Anybody of interest knows to keep a very low profile.<br>
Never buy too much of anything thats a direct step to a listed watched chemical.<br>
Never talk to strangers online about political ideas.<br>
Stay out of web 2.0.  If mainstream US cable news and the US mil is talking up twitter, never use twitter.<br>
Learn how to protest, learn how 1 person can change the system and then just melt back to be replaced by another random stranger.<br>If 10 or 100 or 10000 random strangers turn up the US mil is going to have a really bad day.<br>
Do they allow a protest to grow, beat it down or try to re shape it.<br>They seem to be hoping Narus will allow them to pick out leaders and arrest/smear/turn them.<br>Someone needs to tell the US gov, the world has moved beyond leaders and cointelpro has been reverse engineered - people expect and enjoy infiltration, film it and lol at it.<br>
The US is on the edge of 1980's Europe.  They think the tech will save them.<br>Millions of online searches, chat and ip's will allow them to filter out the bright connected ones and somehow stop unrest.<br>
The only winners are the people selling the Narus like tech and the people who know to never surface.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They know your looking at IM , forums , google ect .
http : //wikileaks.org/ [ wikileaks.org ] google cache has a link to http : //indect-project.eu/files/deliverables/public/INDECT \ _Deliverable \ _4.1 \ _v20090630a.pdf/at \ _download/file [ indect-project.eu ] Anybody of interest knows to keep a very low profile .
Never buy too much of anything thats a direct step to a listed watched chemical .
Never talk to strangers online about political ideas .
Stay out of web 2.0 .
If mainstream US cable news and the US mil is talking up twitter , never use twitter .
Learn how to protest , learn how 1 person can change the system and then just melt back to be replaced by another random stranger.If 10 or 100 or 10000 random strangers turn up the US mil is going to have a really bad day .
Do they allow a protest to grow , beat it down or try to re shape it.They seem to be hoping Narus will allow them to pick out leaders and arrest/smear/turn them.Someone needs to tell the US gov , the world has moved beyond leaders and cointelpro has been reverse engineered - people expect and enjoy infiltration , film it and lol at it .
The US is on the edge of 1980 's Europe .
They think the tech will save them.Millions of online searches , chat and ip 's will allow them to filter out the bright connected ones and somehow stop unrest .
The only winners are the people selling the Narus like tech and the people who know to never surface .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They know your looking at IM, forums, google ect.
http://wikileaks.org/ [wikileaks.org] google cache has a link to 

http://indect-project.eu/files/deliverables/public/INDECT\_Deliverable\_4.1\_v20090630a.pdf/at\_download/file [indect-project.eu] 
Anybody of interest knows to keep a very low profile.
Never buy too much of anything thats a direct step to a listed watched chemical.
Never talk to strangers online about political ideas.
Stay out of web 2.0.
If mainstream US cable news and the US mil is talking up twitter, never use twitter.
Learn how to protest, learn how 1 person can change the system and then just melt back to be replaced by another random stranger.If 10 or 100 or 10000 random strangers turn up the US mil is going to have a really bad day.
Do they allow a protest to grow, beat it down or try to re shape it.They seem to be hoping Narus will allow them to pick out leaders and arrest/smear/turn them.Someone needs to tell the US gov, the world has moved beyond leaders and cointelpro has been reverse engineered - people expect and enjoy infiltration, film it and lol at it.
The US is on the edge of 1980's Europe.
They think the tech will save them.Millions of online searches, chat and ip's will allow them to filter out the bright connected ones and somehow stop unrest.
The only winners are the people selling the Narus like tech and the people who know to never surface.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354508</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267637940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ron Paul is pretty honest. . . and there are others, usually trashed by the corporate media, but anyway:</p><p>I completely agree with you. This has gotten so far out of control. It needs to stop. This whole idea that society is safer with no freedom and an out of control corrupt government is nonsense. I don't care what excuse is made, whether real or manufactured, losing freedom is not worth whatever perceived benefit such measures could provide (Which is: None).</p><p>Not only is it a monumental waste of money in a time where we can't afford it, but it's detrimental to the integrity and social morality of society itself. More and more, this "terrorism" word is thrown around for political gain. The word itself is so loosely used these days that people in the UK are frequently called "terrorists" for taking pictures of parades. The sweeping power of anti-terrorism laws poses a far greater threat to the safety of the population than any potential attack could. They do not do anything to prevent bad guys from attacking, and serve only to destroy the incredible gift of liberty that this country was founded upon.</p><p>Simply put, there is no point in protecting the western world if there is no western world left to protect. What we lose in these endless "wars on everything" is the loss of everything that defines our culture that is worthy of praise.</p><p>Privacy, due process, accountability of even the highest offices of government, freedom of speech, freedom from official persecution, freedom of free-assembly, freedom to protect one's self, freedom of choice, freedom of mobility. Every traditionally American virtue is being stampeded upon in favor of this Orwellian nightmare state from hell. It provides no benefit, and there is no excuse great enough to justify it's existence.</p><p>Really, if you think about it, the people behind such massive abuses of American jurisprudence are the very defenition of terrorists. They are like hostage takers, that use fear mongering and doomsday scenarios to terrorize the population and elected representatives into going along with their agenda (or else). That IS terrorism, is it not?</p><p>I feel, as a law abiding American Citizen, quite a lot more terrorized by the government itself than by any brown skinned guy in a cave half a world away. That is a fact.</p><p>It's just as you said: Why not make this a place that nobody would want to attack, which would REALLY make us safer. No police state needed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ron Paul is pretty honest .
. .
and there are others , usually trashed by the corporate media , but anyway : I completely agree with you .
This has gotten so far out of control .
It needs to stop .
This whole idea that society is safer with no freedom and an out of control corrupt government is nonsense .
I do n't care what excuse is made , whether real or manufactured , losing freedom is not worth whatever perceived benefit such measures could provide ( Which is : None ) .Not only is it a monumental waste of money in a time where we ca n't afford it , but it 's detrimental to the integrity and social morality of society itself .
More and more , this " terrorism " word is thrown around for political gain .
The word itself is so loosely used these days that people in the UK are frequently called " terrorists " for taking pictures of parades .
The sweeping power of anti-terrorism laws poses a far greater threat to the safety of the population than any potential attack could .
They do not do anything to prevent bad guys from attacking , and serve only to destroy the incredible gift of liberty that this country was founded upon.Simply put , there is no point in protecting the western world if there is no western world left to protect .
What we lose in these endless " wars on everything " is the loss of everything that defines our culture that is worthy of praise.Privacy , due process , accountability of even the highest offices of government , freedom of speech , freedom from official persecution , freedom of free-assembly , freedom to protect one 's self , freedom of choice , freedom of mobility .
Every traditionally American virtue is being stampeded upon in favor of this Orwellian nightmare state from hell .
It provides no benefit , and there is no excuse great enough to justify it 's existence.Really , if you think about it , the people behind such massive abuses of American jurisprudence are the very defenition of terrorists .
They are like hostage takers , that use fear mongering and doomsday scenarios to terrorize the population and elected representatives into going along with their agenda ( or else ) .
That IS terrorism , is it not ? I feel , as a law abiding American Citizen , quite a lot more terrorized by the government itself than by any brown skinned guy in a cave half a world away .
That is a fact.It 's just as you said : Why not make this a place that nobody would want to attack , which would REALLY make us safer .
No police state needed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ron Paul is pretty honest.
. .
and there are others, usually trashed by the corporate media, but anyway:I completely agree with you.
This has gotten so far out of control.
It needs to stop.
This whole idea that society is safer with no freedom and an out of control corrupt government is nonsense.
I don't care what excuse is made, whether real or manufactured, losing freedom is not worth whatever perceived benefit such measures could provide (Which is: None).Not only is it a monumental waste of money in a time where we can't afford it, but it's detrimental to the integrity and social morality of society itself.
More and more, this "terrorism" word is thrown around for political gain.
The word itself is so loosely used these days that people in the UK are frequently called "terrorists" for taking pictures of parades.
The sweeping power of anti-terrorism laws poses a far greater threat to the safety of the population than any potential attack could.
They do not do anything to prevent bad guys from attacking, and serve only to destroy the incredible gift of liberty that this country was founded upon.Simply put, there is no point in protecting the western world if there is no western world left to protect.
What we lose in these endless "wars on everything" is the loss of everything that defines our culture that is worthy of praise.Privacy, due process, accountability of even the highest offices of government, freedom of speech, freedom from official persecution, freedom of free-assembly, freedom to protect one's self, freedom of choice, freedom of mobility.
Every traditionally American virtue is being stampeded upon in favor of this Orwellian nightmare state from hell.
It provides no benefit, and there is no excuse great enough to justify it's existence.Really, if you think about it, the people behind such massive abuses of American jurisprudence are the very defenition of terrorists.
They are like hostage takers, that use fear mongering and doomsday scenarios to terrorize the population and elected representatives into going along with their agenda (or else).
That IS terrorism, is it not?I feel, as a law abiding American Citizen, quite a lot more terrorized by the government itself than by any brown skinned guy in a cave half a world away.
That is a fact.It's just as you said: Why not make this a place that nobody would want to attack, which would REALLY make us safer.
No police state needed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31374412</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>Sarlin</author>
	<datestamp>1267820640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go back to your cave you nit wit punk.  You must be French...probably carry a white hanky in your back pocket.  Grow a brain and quit making excuses for terrorists, you piece of shit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go back to your cave you nit wit punk .
You must be French...probably carry a white hanky in your back pocket .
Grow a brain and quit making excuses for terrorists , you piece of shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go back to your cave you nit wit punk.
You must be French...probably carry a white hanky in your back pocket.
Grow a brain and quit making excuses for terrorists, you piece of shit.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31363942</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1267702800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks for the thoughtful reply.  Yes, Hitler didn't pick Jews arbitrarily and they weren't the only ones he picked.  But he also decided he wanted to conquer every other nation.  That is more along the lines of what I was specifically referring to... if Islamic wackos want to have an Islamic <i>world</i> then they aren't going to settle for being nice to us just because they can't find something to blame us for.  Human beings are amazingly adept at making up things or skewing things so that they can blame it on someone else.  It happens all the time in politics in the US; I can't imagine it's a trait/skill that only happens in the "white West."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for the thoughtful reply .
Yes , Hitler did n't pick Jews arbitrarily and they were n't the only ones he picked .
But he also decided he wanted to conquer every other nation .
That is more along the lines of what I was specifically referring to... if Islamic wackos want to have an Islamic world then they are n't going to settle for being nice to us just because they ca n't find something to blame us for .
Human beings are amazingly adept at making up things or skewing things so that they can blame it on someone else .
It happens all the time in politics in the US ; I ca n't imagine it 's a trait/skill that only happens in the " white West .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Yes, Hitler didn't pick Jews arbitrarily and they weren't the only ones he picked.
But he also decided he wanted to conquer every other nation.
That is more along the lines of what I was specifically referring to... if Islamic wackos want to have an Islamic world then they aren't going to settle for being nice to us just because they can't find something to blame us for.
Human beings are amazingly adept at making up things or skewing things so that they can blame it on someone else.
It happens all the time in politics in the US; I can't imagine it's a trait/skill that only happens in the "white West.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354222</id>
	<title>Fertilizer And Farmers</title>
	<author>nick\_davison</author>
	<datestamp>1267635000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>'If you search for fertilizers on Google<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it's going to come back with 6.5 million pages. Enjoy,' he said. 'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it's not even searchable.'</p></div><p>Sure it is. 6,499,996 of those 6.5m are non farmers discussing fertilizer. With mega farms taking over farming, there are only, what, four actual farmers in America. &lt;/joke&gt;</p><p>Even if we assume there are huge numbers of farmers on the internets, discussing fertilizer all day... He's implying 6.5m is too large a set to go through but the non farmer set is small enough to manually browse through. Really? So there aren't millions of home owners with gardens in America? There aren't tens of thousands of HOAs handling their own landscaping? There aren't armies of landscapers? And that's before you get in to the 106,000 results Google gives you for "fertilizer + bomb". Even if you weed out every last farmer, every landscaper, every HOA, every home owner... you still have over 100,000 entries to go through of people simply discussing fertilizer and bombs. To turn his own words back on him, "Enjoy."</p></div>
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<tokenext>'If you search for fertilizers on Google ... it 's going to come back with 6.5 million pages .
Enjoy, ' he said .
'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it 's not even searchable .
'Sure it is .
6,499,996 of those 6.5m are non farmers discussing fertilizer .
With mega farms taking over farming , there are only , what , four actual farmers in America .
Even if we assume there are huge numbers of farmers on the internets , discussing fertilizer all day... He 's implying 6.5m is too large a set to go through but the non farmer set is small enough to manually browse through .
Really ? So there are n't millions of home owners with gardens in America ?
There are n't tens of thousands of HOAs handling their own landscaping ?
There are n't armies of landscapers ?
And that 's before you get in to the 106,000 results Google gives you for " fertilizer + bomb " .
Even if you weed out every last farmer , every landscaper , every HOA , every home owner... you still have over 100,000 entries to go through of people simply discussing fertilizer and bombs .
To turn his own words back on him , " Enjoy .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'If you search for fertilizers on Google ... it's going to come back with 6.5 million pages.
Enjoy,' he said.
'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it's not even searchable.
'Sure it is.
6,499,996 of those 6.5m are non farmers discussing fertilizer.
With mega farms taking over farming, there are only, what, four actual farmers in America.
Even if we assume there are huge numbers of farmers on the internets, discussing fertilizer all day... He's implying 6.5m is too large a set to go through but the non farmer set is small enough to manually browse through.
Really? So there aren't millions of home owners with gardens in America?
There aren't tens of thousands of HOAs handling their own landscaping?
There aren't armies of landscapers?
And that's before you get in to the 106,000 results Google gives you for "fertilizer + bomb".
Even if you weed out every last farmer, every landscaper, every HOA, every home owner... you still have over 100,000 entries to go through of people simply discussing fertilizer and bombs.
To turn his own words back on him, "Enjoy.
"
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354596</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>Virtual\_Raider</author>
	<datestamp>1267638780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>More ridiculous terrorism scare tactics used for attention.</p><p>"If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer..."   Let's find non-doctors charging Medicare.  Corrupt cops.  Meth distributors.  Human traffickers.   Murderers.  People who built technology just to make money using other people's personal data, and try and frame it using terrorism scare tactics.  Oh wait...</p></div><p>That is actually a pretty good suggestion, except that unless you are the press who's gonna have the resources to run stuff like this? or the interest in outing these people <em>and</em> the stamina to stand behind their work and resist the counterattacks? All while claiming to have a legitimate interest in snooping on vast swaths of people to find out...</p><p>Accountability is not something anybody in power seems interested in, or likely to allow random people like you and I to wield over them.</p></div>
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<tokenext>More ridiculous terrorism scare tactics used for attention .
" If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer... " Let 's find non-doctors charging Medicare .
Corrupt cops .
Meth distributors .
Human traffickers .
Murderers. People who built technology just to make money using other people 's personal data , and try and frame it using terrorism scare tactics .
Oh wait...That is actually a pretty good suggestion , except that unless you are the press who 's gon na have the resources to run stuff like this ?
or the interest in outing these people and the stamina to stand behind their work and resist the counterattacks ?
All while claiming to have a legitimate interest in snooping on vast swaths of people to find out...Accountability is not something anybody in power seems interested in , or likely to allow random people like you and I to wield over them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More ridiculous terrorism scare tactics used for attention.
"If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer..."   Let's find non-doctors charging Medicare.
Corrupt cops.
Meth distributors.
Human traffickers.
Murderers.  People who built technology just to make money using other people's personal data, and try and frame it using terrorism scare tactics.
Oh wait...That is actually a pretty good suggestion, except that unless you are the press who's gonna have the resources to run stuff like this?
or the interest in outing these people and the stamina to stand behind their work and resist the counterattacks?
All while claiming to have a legitimate interest in snooping on vast swaths of people to find out...Accountability is not something anybody in power seems interested in, or likely to allow random people like you and I to wield over them.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353486</id>
	<title>Interested in Narus?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267628820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>PBS' <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/" title="pbs.org" rel="nofollow">Frontline</a> [pbs.org] released a documentary called <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/homefront/" title="pbs.org" rel="nofollow">"Spying on the Home Front"</a> [pbs.org] all the way back on May 15th, 2007.  The entire documentary is available for viewing online (I believe it's even accessible in Canada; I'm not sure about access from other countries) at that Frontline site.  If you're short on time, click the "Watch the Full Program Online" link on the right-hand side of the page, and then click on Chapter 3 in the new window that appears (it's titled "The NSA's Eavesdropping at AT&amp;T").  The whole chapter only lasts about 10 minutes, but again, if you're short on time fast-forward through the chapter to about 4:30.  That's the point where Mark Klein describes when he first became aware that a Narus STA system had been installed inside a secret room at a major AT&amp;T facility.  Shortly thereafter Brian Reid elaborates on exactly what its presence meant.</p><p>Even better, at about 5:05 an interview with Steve Bannerman, VP of Narus Marketing begins, at which point he begins describing just how deeply into network traffic their hardware can probe.</p><p>And beautifully, at about 6:35, Steve Bannerman suddenly becomes aware of exactly how deep a whole he's dug for himself, and becomes visibly flustered, starts stammering, and eventually trails off with a couple of classic lines like, "as far as I know, no one's ever proved [sic] anything!"</p><p>That part's worth rewinding and replaying a few times over.</p><p>Please forgive my obvious schadenfreude, but in the face of entities like the NSA and Naurus, who together apparently have complete access to anything of mine -- and that of my friends, and my family -- that travels over the Internet, schadenfreude is all I've got left.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>PBS ' Frontline [ pbs.org ] released a documentary called " Spying on the Home Front " [ pbs.org ] all the way back on May 15th , 2007 .
The entire documentary is available for viewing online ( I believe it 's even accessible in Canada ; I 'm not sure about access from other countries ) at that Frontline site .
If you 're short on time , click the " Watch the Full Program Online " link on the right-hand side of the page , and then click on Chapter 3 in the new window that appears ( it 's titled " The NSA 's Eavesdropping at AT&amp;T " ) .
The whole chapter only lasts about 10 minutes , but again , if you 're short on time fast-forward through the chapter to about 4 : 30 .
That 's the point where Mark Klein describes when he first became aware that a Narus STA system had been installed inside a secret room at a major AT&amp;T facility .
Shortly thereafter Brian Reid elaborates on exactly what its presence meant.Even better , at about 5 : 05 an interview with Steve Bannerman , VP of Narus Marketing begins , at which point he begins describing just how deeply into network traffic their hardware can probe.And beautifully , at about 6 : 35 , Steve Bannerman suddenly becomes aware of exactly how deep a whole he 's dug for himself , and becomes visibly flustered , starts stammering , and eventually trails off with a couple of classic lines like , " as far as I know , no one 's ever proved [ sic ] anything !
" That part 's worth rewinding and replaying a few times over.Please forgive my obvious schadenfreude , but in the face of entities like the NSA and Naurus , who together apparently have complete access to anything of mine -- and that of my friends , and my family -- that travels over the Internet , schadenfreude is all I 've got left .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PBS' Frontline [pbs.org] released a documentary called "Spying on the Home Front" [pbs.org] all the way back on May 15th, 2007.
The entire documentary is available for viewing online (I believe it's even accessible in Canada; I'm not sure about access from other countries) at that Frontline site.
If you're short on time, click the "Watch the Full Program Online" link on the right-hand side of the page, and then click on Chapter 3 in the new window that appears (it's titled "The NSA's Eavesdropping at AT&amp;T").
The whole chapter only lasts about 10 minutes, but again, if you're short on time fast-forward through the chapter to about 4:30.
That's the point where Mark Klein describes when he first became aware that a Narus STA system had been installed inside a secret room at a major AT&amp;T facility.
Shortly thereafter Brian Reid elaborates on exactly what its presence meant.Even better, at about 5:05 an interview with Steve Bannerman, VP of Narus Marketing begins, at which point he begins describing just how deeply into network traffic their hardware can probe.And beautifully, at about 6:35, Steve Bannerman suddenly becomes aware of exactly how deep a whole he's dug for himself, and becomes visibly flustered, starts stammering, and eventually trails off with a couple of classic lines like, "as far as I know, no one's ever proved [sic] anything!
"That part's worth rewinding and replaying a few times over.Please forgive my obvious schadenfreude, but in the face of entities like the NSA and Naurus, who together apparently have complete access to anything of mine -- and that of my friends, and my family -- that travels over the Internet, schadenfreude is all I've got left.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354106</id>
	<title>Finally someone gets it</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1267633740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A lot of the people who think you can reason with terrorists follow the logic that if only women didn't upset men, they wouldn't be raped.
</p><p>It takes two to tango, it takes one to start a war.
</p><p>If you say "I have no problem with X", then you are both extremely arrogant and sticking your head in the sand. You suggest that you are the only one who matters in this relationship. That if you don't hate them, how can they possibly hate you? It is "If I can't see them, they can't see me". A very childish way to deal with fear.
</p><p>Oh, and btw, if you defend that all sorts of Muslims can strike against the US for perceived wrongs in the past, then you have given every Jew in the world the right to kill any European. Can Israel fire missiles at Germany for obvious reasons? Can native-americans start bombing American immigrants (that is you whitey) for the occupation of their homeland?
</p><p>Nope, didn't think so.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A lot of the people who think you can reason with terrorists follow the logic that if only women did n't upset men , they would n't be raped .
It takes two to tango , it takes one to start a war .
If you say " I have no problem with X " , then you are both extremely arrogant and sticking your head in the sand .
You suggest that you are the only one who matters in this relationship .
That if you do n't hate them , how can they possibly hate you ?
It is " If I ca n't see them , they ca n't see me " .
A very childish way to deal with fear .
Oh , and btw , if you defend that all sorts of Muslims can strike against the US for perceived wrongs in the past , then you have given every Jew in the world the right to kill any European .
Can Israel fire missiles at Germany for obvious reasons ?
Can native-americans start bombing American immigrants ( that is you whitey ) for the occupation of their homeland ?
Nope , did n't think so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A lot of the people who think you can reason with terrorists follow the logic that if only women didn't upset men, they wouldn't be raped.
It takes two to tango, it takes one to start a war.
If you say "I have no problem with X", then you are both extremely arrogant and sticking your head in the sand.
You suggest that you are the only one who matters in this relationship.
That if you don't hate them, how can they possibly hate you?
It is "If I can't see them, they can't see me".
A very childish way to deal with fear.
Oh, and btw, if you defend that all sorts of Muslims can strike against the US for perceived wrongs in the past, then you have given every Jew in the world the right to kill any European.
Can Israel fire missiles at Germany for obvious reasons?
Can native-americans start bombing American immigrants (that is you whitey) for the occupation of their homeland?
Nope, didn't think so.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31356122</id>
	<title>Re:Why the fuck</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1267700940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>it's NARUS.  i.e. it's Israeli tech, aimed at governments who want to do smart intercepts.  They sell the equipment that the US government installs into ISPs for monitoring.</htmltext>
<tokenext>it 's NARUS .
i.e. it 's Israeli tech , aimed at governments who want to do smart intercepts .
They sell the equipment that the US government installs into ISPs for monitoring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it's NARUS.
i.e. it's Israeli tech, aimed at governments who want to do smart intercepts.
They sell the equipment that the US government installs into ISPs for monitoring.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354254</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>nick\_davison</author>
	<datestamp>1267635240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, you type "fertilizer + bomb" in to google.</p><p>It still gives you 106,000 results, completely invalidating his original point about how weeding out farmers gives you a usefully small search set.</p><p>Any terrorist with half a brain is going to use euphemisms, switched words, code, etc. About all you're going to reliably turn up is a list of every school boy in America, every news agency that's ever posted a story on a bomber using fertilizer and a crackpot on a compound in Arkansas who's only a danger to himself anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , you type " fertilizer + bomb " in to google.It still gives you 106,000 results , completely invalidating his original point about how weeding out farmers gives you a usefully small search set.Any terrorist with half a brain is going to use euphemisms , switched words , code , etc .
About all you 're going to reliably turn up is a list of every school boy in America , every news agency that 's ever posted a story on a bomber using fertilizer and a crackpot on a compound in Arkansas who 's only a danger to himself anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, you type "fertilizer + bomb" in to google.It still gives you 106,000 results, completely invalidating his original point about how weeding out farmers gives you a usefully small search set.Any terrorist with half a brain is going to use euphemisms, switched words, code, etc.
About all you're going to reliably turn up is a list of every school boy in America, every news agency that's ever posted a story on a bomber using fertilizer and a crackpot on a compound in Arkansas who's only a danger to himself anyway.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31355896</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>ultranova</author>
	<datestamp>1267698180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>That depends on what they hate you for. Some people do indeed hate people for their ideology. It's happened quite often in history. You think the Jews' problem was something other than what <em>Hitler</em> believed, not what the Jews believed? Or France, for that matter?</p></div> </blockquote><p>One of the reasons Hitler got into power in the first place was that he promised to overturn the completely unreasonable and punitive towards Germany peace treaty of WWI. One of the reasons why no one tried to stop him before it was too late was that the victors of that war had a guilty conscience over the same treaty.</p><p>And your example is flawed in other ways too. For example, Hitler didn't pick Jews arbitrarily; he picked them because they were the terrorists/commies/witches of their time, widely believed to be trying to destroy Western civilization for some vague nefarious ideological reasons. It was easy for Hitler to fan that fear, and to convince people the Jews were trying to destroy their lifestyle and would never stop, so the people needed to give him the power to deal with the problem; in other words, exactly the same shit as we are having nowadays.</p><blockquote><div><p>Pulling out the "terrorists just hate the US because of what the US has done" should be based on what the said terrorist has said, not based on what we think the US does wrong.</p></div> </blockquote><p>Don't most of them name some specific real or perceived wrong as their motivation? Osama, for example, took exception to US troops in Middle-East.</p><blockquote><div><p>But I don't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong.</p></div> </blockquote><p>They would, however, have a lot harder time recruiting people willing to die just to take Americans with them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>That depends on what they hate you for .
Some people do indeed hate people for their ideology .
It 's happened quite often in history .
You think the Jews ' problem was something other than what Hitler believed , not what the Jews believed ?
Or France , for that matter ?
One of the reasons Hitler got into power in the first place was that he promised to overturn the completely unreasonable and punitive towards Germany peace treaty of WWI .
One of the reasons why no one tried to stop him before it was too late was that the victors of that war had a guilty conscience over the same treaty.And your example is flawed in other ways too .
For example , Hitler did n't pick Jews arbitrarily ; he picked them because they were the terrorists/commies/witches of their time , widely believed to be trying to destroy Western civilization for some vague nefarious ideological reasons .
It was easy for Hitler to fan that fear , and to convince people the Jews were trying to destroy their lifestyle and would never stop , so the people needed to give him the power to deal with the problem ; in other words , exactly the same shit as we are having nowadays.Pulling out the " terrorists just hate the US because of what the US has done " should be based on what the said terrorist has said , not based on what we think the US does wrong .
Do n't most of them name some specific real or perceived wrong as their motivation ?
Osama , for example , took exception to US troops in Middle-East.But I do n't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong .
They would , however , have a lot harder time recruiting people willing to die just to take Americans with them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That depends on what they hate you for.
Some people do indeed hate people for their ideology.
It's happened quite often in history.
You think the Jews' problem was something other than what Hitler believed, not what the Jews believed?
Or France, for that matter?
One of the reasons Hitler got into power in the first place was that he promised to overturn the completely unreasonable and punitive towards Germany peace treaty of WWI.
One of the reasons why no one tried to stop him before it was too late was that the victors of that war had a guilty conscience over the same treaty.And your example is flawed in other ways too.
For example, Hitler didn't pick Jews arbitrarily; he picked them because they were the terrorists/commies/witches of their time, widely believed to be trying to destroy Western civilization for some vague nefarious ideological reasons.
It was easy for Hitler to fan that fear, and to convince people the Jews were trying to destroy their lifestyle and would never stop, so the people needed to give him the power to deal with the problem; in other words, exactly the same shit as we are having nowadays.Pulling out the "terrorists just hate the US because of what the US has done" should be based on what the said terrorist has said, not based on what we think the US does wrong.
Don't most of them name some specific real or perceived wrong as their motivation?
Osama, for example, took exception to US troops in Middle-East.But I don't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong.
They would, however, have a lot harder time recruiting people willing to die just to take Americans with them.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31437152</id>
	<title>Re:Interested in Narus?</title>
	<author>ekimminau</author>
	<datestamp>1268321400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I knew about this interview but never knew it was made available online. Thanks for the link and the details of where to look.

Bannerman talks about only part of the capabilities of a product that has progressed to much more powerful hardware on much faster CPU with much more RAm and MUCH faster storage. Real time data analysis at theoretical full pipe bandwidth with multiple data source aggregation is that much easier. The larger your data sources, the greater the probability of cross identification in the shorter amount of time.

Anyone know the maximum number of nodes supported by Oracle 11G RAC (the backend DB for narus devices)?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I knew about this interview but never knew it was made available online .
Thanks for the link and the details of where to look .
Bannerman talks about only part of the capabilities of a product that has progressed to much more powerful hardware on much faster CPU with much more RAm and MUCH faster storage .
Real time data analysis at theoretical full pipe bandwidth with multiple data source aggregation is that much easier .
The larger your data sources , the greater the probability of cross identification in the shorter amount of time .
Anyone know the maximum number of nodes supported by Oracle 11G RAC ( the backend DB for narus devices ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I knew about this interview but never knew it was made available online.
Thanks for the link and the details of where to look.
Bannerman talks about only part of the capabilities of a product that has progressed to much more powerful hardware on much faster CPU with much more RAm and MUCH faster storage.
Real time data analysis at theoretical full pipe bandwidth with multiple data source aggregation is that much easier.
The larger your data sources, the greater the probability of cross identification in the shorter amount of time.
Anyone know the maximum number of nodes supported by Oracle 11G RAC (the backend DB for narus devices)?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353448</id>
	<title>Re:Why the fuck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267628520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>which is fitting considering this world seems to have lost it's</p></div></blockquote><p>Lost it is <i>what</i>? Tell us, damn you!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>which is fitting considering this world seems to have lost it'sLost it is what ?
Tell us , damn you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>which is fitting considering this world seems to have lost it'sLost it is what?
Tell us, damn you!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31356140</id>
	<title>Re:Whats the point?</title>
	<author>RMH101</author>
	<datestamp>1267701120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you're just arguing parameters.  Say you start trawling for:<br>
1) people who appear to be exchanging keys over email, or encrypt their traffic<br>
2) similar IPs who make purchases or enquiries online into ordering fertiliser, or activator ingredients, or GSM SIM cards etc<br>
3) people who are already on watch lists etc<br>
It'll eb down to intelligence analysts to set the parameters, but this looks like a very clever and very scary tool to bring together bits of evidence that woulnd't be worth much in isolation into a profile.<br>
People doing Bad Stuff don't have perfect security.  Everyone makes slips sometime...</htmltext>
<tokenext>you 're just arguing parameters .
Say you start trawling for : 1 ) people who appear to be exchanging keys over email , or encrypt their traffic 2 ) similar IPs who make purchases or enquiries online into ordering fertiliser , or activator ingredients , or GSM SIM cards etc 3 ) people who are already on watch lists etc It 'll eb down to intelligence analysts to set the parameters , but this looks like a very clever and very scary tool to bring together bits of evidence that woulnd't be worth much in isolation into a profile .
People doing Bad Stuff do n't have perfect security .
Everyone makes slips sometime.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you're just arguing parameters.
Say you start trawling for:
1) people who appear to be exchanging keys over email, or encrypt their traffic
2) similar IPs who make purchases or enquiries online into ordering fertiliser, or activator ingredients, or GSM SIM cards etc
3) people who are already on watch lists etc
It'll eb down to intelligence analysts to set the parameters, but this looks like a very clever and very scary tool to bring together bits of evidence that woulnd't be worth much in isolation into a profile.
People doing Bad Stuff don't have perfect security.
Everyone makes slips sometime...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352790</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267622940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>then address the real reasons for hating your society</p></div><p>That depends on what they hate you for.  Some people do indeed hate people for their ideology.  It's happened quite often in history.  You think the Jews' problem was something other than what <i>Hitler</i> believed, not what the Jews believed?  Or France, for that matter?</p><p>Pulling out the "terrorists just hate the US because of what the US has done" should be based on what the said terrorist has said, not based on what we think the US does wrong.  Do I think the US does things wrong?  Oh, definitely.  But I don't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong.  And it hasn't worked that way for a long time.  Russia appeared to hate the US for a time because it saw the US as an obstruction to what Russia wanted (world communism).  Hitler hated everybody because they stood in the way of what he wanted (a German/Arian world)...</p><p>But I do agree with most of your last paragraph... I wouldn't mind finding a non-tax-cheating Congress member, a "good person" politician, etc.  And I'm all for lowering power abuse and crime.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>then address the real reasons for hating your societyThat depends on what they hate you for .
Some people do indeed hate people for their ideology .
It 's happened quite often in history .
You think the Jews ' problem was something other than what Hitler believed , not what the Jews believed ?
Or France , for that matter ? Pulling out the " terrorists just hate the US because of what the US has done " should be based on what the said terrorist has said , not based on what we think the US does wrong .
Do I think the US does things wrong ?
Oh , definitely .
But I do n't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong .
And it has n't worked that way for a long time .
Russia appeared to hate the US for a time because it saw the US as an obstruction to what Russia wanted ( world communism ) .
Hitler hated everybody because they stood in the way of what he wanted ( a German/Arian world ) ...But I do agree with most of your last paragraph... I would n't mind finding a non-tax-cheating Congress member , a " good person " politician , etc .
And I 'm all for lowering power abuse and crime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>then address the real reasons for hating your societyThat depends on what they hate you for.
Some people do indeed hate people for their ideology.
It's happened quite often in history.
You think the Jews' problem was something other than what Hitler believed, not what the Jews believed?
Or France, for that matter?Pulling out the "terrorists just hate the US because of what the US has done" should be based on what the said terrorist has said, not based on what we think the US does wrong.
Do I think the US does things wrong?
Oh, definitely.
But I don't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong.
And it hasn't worked that way for a long time.
Russia appeared to hate the US for a time because it saw the US as an obstruction to what Russia wanted (world communism).
Hitler hated everybody because they stood in the way of what he wanted (a German/Arian world)...But I do agree with most of your last paragraph... I wouldn't mind finding a non-tax-cheating Congress member, a "good person" politician, etc.
And I'm all for lowering power abuse and crime.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353310</id>
	<title>Sounds like Semantic Web to me.</title>
	<author>ShinmaWa</author>
	<datestamp>1267627260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> 'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... it's not even searchable.'</p> </div><p>This sounds an awful lot like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic\_web" title="wikipedia.org">semantic web</a> [wikipedia.org].  Specifically, this sounds exactly like what <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM\_WebFountain" title="wikipedia.org">WebFountain</a> [wikipedia.org] does (and has done since 2003).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it 's not even searchable .
' This sounds an awful lot like the semantic web [ wikipedia.org ] .
Specifically , this sounds exactly like what WebFountain [ wikipedia.org ] does ( and has done since 2003 ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> 'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it's not even searchable.
' This sounds an awful lot like the semantic web [wikipedia.org].
Specifically, this sounds exactly like what WebFountain [wikipedia.org] does (and has done since 2003).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352878</id>
	<title>try it fags</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267623480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>eat shit, robotic villain!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>eat shit , robotic villain !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>eat shit, robotic villain!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31376564</id>
	<title>Re: Only 94?  But I cheated...</title>
	<author>ibsteve2u</author>
	<datestamp>1267789380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I searched "non farmers novice newbie fertilizer forum -game" and got 6,590 hits on google.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I searched " non farmers novice newbie fertilizer forum -game " and got 6,590 hits on google .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I searched "non farmers novice newbie fertilizer forum -game" and got 6,590 hits on google.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353202</id>
	<title>"Easy place to hide"?? BS!</title>
	<author>Jane Q. Public</author>
	<datestamp>1267626180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>In many ways, the cyber world is ideal for subversive and terrorist activities, said Antonio Nucci, chief technology officer with Narus. "For bad people, it's an easy place to hide," Nucci said. "They can get lost and very easily hide behind a massive ocean of legal digital transactions."</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I would really, really like to take people who are promoting "security" and who say "the Internet is an easy place to hide", to someplace private and then continuously bitch-slap them until they admit that they are either stupid or dishonest.
<br> <br>
If they want to investigate a place where it's "easy to hide", I suggest they try their data-mining tools on the mails, or UPS or Fed-Ex. And good f**ing luck to them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>In many ways , the cyber world is ideal for subversive and terrorist activities , said Antonio Nucci , chief technology officer with Narus .
" For bad people , it 's an easy place to hide , " Nucci said .
" They can get lost and very easily hide behind a massive ocean of legal digital transactions .
" I would really , really like to take people who are promoting " security " and who say " the Internet is an easy place to hide " , to someplace private and then continuously bitch-slap them until they admit that they are either stupid or dishonest .
If they want to investigate a place where it 's " easy to hide " , I suggest they try their data-mining tools on the mails , or UPS or Fed-Ex .
And good f * * ing luck to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In many ways, the cyber world is ideal for subversive and terrorist activities, said Antonio Nucci, chief technology officer with Narus.
"For bad people, it's an easy place to hide," Nucci said.
"They can get lost and very easily hide behind a massive ocean of legal digital transactions.
"

I would really, really like to take people who are promoting "security" and who say "the Internet is an easy place to hide", to someplace private and then continuously bitch-slap them until they admit that they are either stupid or dishonest.
If they want to investigate a place where it's "easy to hide", I suggest they try their data-mining tools on the mails, or UPS or Fed-Ex.
And good f**ing luck to them.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31355554</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>phantomfive</author>
	<datestamp>1267693740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member. Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all? A single honest politician? Even one?</p> </div><p>The problem with being an honest politician is most people would rather vote for a dishonest person who will do what they want than an honest person who does what they don't want.  I believe this is the main formula for Bill Clinton's success, along with many other politicians.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member .
Oh , oh , how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all ?
A single honest politician ?
Even one ?
The problem with being an honest politician is most people would rather vote for a dishonest person who will do what they want than an honest person who does what they do n't want .
I believe this is the main formula for Bill Clinton 's success , along with many other politicians .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member.
Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all?
A single honest politician?
Even one?
The problem with being an honest politician is most people would rather vote for a dishonest person who will do what they want than an honest person who does what they don't want.
I believe this is the main formula for Bill Clinton's success, along with many other politicians.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353084</id>
	<title>Latent Semantic Indexing</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267625040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The automated categorization of text by topic is not new.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent\_semantic\_indexing" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Latent Semantic Indexing</a> [wikipedia.org] has been in use for just this purpose since 1992.  Perhaps Narus is taking a new approach, but the concept itself is far from the revolutionary breakthrough they would have you believe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The automated categorization of text by topic is not new .
Latent Semantic Indexing [ wikipedia.org ] has been in use for just this purpose since 1992 .
Perhaps Narus is taking a new approach , but the concept itself is far from the revolutionary breakthrough they would have you believe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The automated categorization of text by topic is not new.
Latent Semantic Indexing [wikipedia.org] has been in use for just this purpose since 1992.
Perhaps Narus is taking a new approach, but the concept itself is far from the revolutionary breakthrough they would have you believe.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352916</id>
	<title>Whats the point?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267623840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites. They are already using encryption - probably one time pads, steganography, shared secret encryption with infinite-length keys and the like and will always be able to continue doing so. <br> <br>

This will more likely be used to convict people for sharing mp3's, using 'stolen' wifi, people who built a small extension to their house in the middle of nowhere without straight away notifying the local government so they can pay their new and increased rates of property tax. This will be used to implement an ultra-controlled very rigidly regulated society which most people if you talk to them seem to approve of. <br> <br>

Man's greatest addiction is controlling other people's lives<br> <br>

".... should be banned because it didn't work out so well for one person"<br>
".... should not be allowed because it affects the view from my house"<br>
".... should be taxed to death. Put those damn rich people back where they belong."<br>
".... is evil, could lead to any number of bigger problems and should be banned."<br>
".... cannot be installed by anyone other than a highly trained professional because one person died trying"<br>
".... is bad for the environment and should not be allowed."<br>
".... should not be allowed to sit in a playground by himself because he might be a future paedophile"<br> <br>

We have nobody to blame but ourselves for overregulation, we desire control, order and security so much that the government is scrambling to find ways to enforce the presently unenforceable. First the church was used as an excuse for ruining people's enjoyment, now its 'de children', the environment and the notion that 'mere humans' cant handle much freedom without losing the plot</htmltext>
<tokenext>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites .
They are already using encryption - probably one time pads , steganography , shared secret encryption with infinite-length keys and the like and will always be able to continue doing so .
This will more likely be used to convict people for sharing mp3 's , using 'stolen ' wifi , people who built a small extension to their house in the middle of nowhere without straight away notifying the local government so they can pay their new and increased rates of property tax .
This will be used to implement an ultra-controlled very rigidly regulated society which most people if you talk to them seem to approve of .
Man 's greatest addiction is controlling other people 's lives " .... should be banned because it did n't work out so well for one person " " .... should not be allowed because it affects the view from my house " " .... should be taxed to death .
Put those damn rich people back where they belong .
" " .... is evil , could lead to any number of bigger problems and should be banned .
" " .... can not be installed by anyone other than a highly trained professional because one person died trying " " .... is bad for the environment and should not be allowed .
" " .... should not be allowed to sit in a playground by himself because he might be a future paedophile " We have nobody to blame but ourselves for overregulation , we desire control , order and security so much that the government is scrambling to find ways to enforce the presently unenforceable .
First the church was used as an excuse for ruining people 's enjoyment , now its 'de children ' , the environment and the notion that 'mere humans ' cant handle much freedom without losing the plot</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites.
They are already using encryption - probably one time pads, steganography, shared secret encryption with infinite-length keys and the like and will always be able to continue doing so.
This will more likely be used to convict people for sharing mp3's, using 'stolen' wifi, people who built a small extension to their house in the middle of nowhere without straight away notifying the local government so they can pay their new and increased rates of property tax.
This will be used to implement an ultra-controlled very rigidly regulated society which most people if you talk to them seem to approve of.
Man's greatest addiction is controlling other people's lives 

".... should be banned because it didn't work out so well for one person"
".... should not be allowed because it affects the view from my house"
".... should be taxed to death.
Put those damn rich people back where they belong.
"
".... is evil, could lead to any number of bigger problems and should be banned.
"
".... cannot be installed by anyone other than a highly trained professional because one person died trying"
".... is bad for the environment and should not be allowed.
"
".... should not be allowed to sit in a playground by himself because he might be a future paedophile" 

We have nobody to blame but ourselves for overregulation, we desire control, order and security so much that the government is scrambling to find ways to enforce the presently unenforceable.
First the church was used as an excuse for ruining people's enjoyment, now its 'de children', the environment and the notion that 'mere humans' cant handle much freedom without losing the plot</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353842</id>
	<title>Personally, I think</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267631100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Personally I think this guy and his company can be compared (unfavorably most likely) to a steaming pile of hot, fresh organic fertilizer.</p><p>P.S. I'm not a farmer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Personally I think this guy and his company can be compared ( unfavorably most likely ) to a steaming pile of hot , fresh organic fertilizer.P.S .
I 'm not a farmer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Personally I think this guy and his company can be compared (unfavorably most likely) to a steaming pile of hot, fresh organic fertilizer.P.S.
I'm not a farmer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352760</id>
	<title>Ummmm....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267622760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not sure what the customer base is here outside of law enforcement. Google maybe, or some of the other online ad networks? Who else could possibly a) have the capability to figure out the various network connections without wiretapping, and b) be interested to know that blogger John is Facebook user Jane when John and Jane don't disclose common information?</p><p>Either they're talking trivial data mining, or they're talking spooky invasion of privacy. If it's the former, I'm not impressed. If it's the latter.... I better make sure I don't offend whoever is in power.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not sure what the customer base is here outside of law enforcement .
Google maybe , or some of the other online ad networks ?
Who else could possibly a ) have the capability to figure out the various network connections without wiretapping , and b ) be interested to know that blogger John is Facebook user Jane when John and Jane do n't disclose common information ? Either they 're talking trivial data mining , or they 're talking spooky invasion of privacy .
If it 's the former , I 'm not impressed .
If it 's the latter.... I better make sure I do n't offend whoever is in power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not sure what the customer base is here outside of law enforcement.
Google maybe, or some of the other online ad networks?
Who else could possibly a) have the capability to figure out the various network connections without wiretapping, and b) be interested to know that blogger John is Facebook user Jane when John and Jane don't disclose common information?Either they're talking trivial data mining, or they're talking spooky invasion of privacy.
If it's the former, I'm not impressed.
If it's the latter.... I better make sure I don't offend whoever is in power.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354658</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>stms</author>
	<datestamp>1267639680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> Russia appeared to hate the US for a time because it saw the US as an obstruction to what Russia wanted (world communism).  Hitler hated everybody because they stood in the way of what he wanted (a German/Arian world).</p></div><p>I'll probably be flamed for this; you can add the Shi'a hate us because we stand in the way of what they want (an Islamic world). The problem isn't that our Ideologies are wrong it's that the two conflict with each other. Therefore there are three options that I know of...
1. War!!!
2. Becoming an Islamic state.
3. Becoming a communist state, then converting the world to it (as they don't allow any religions or other Ideologies).
I would be open to any other ideas.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Russia appeared to hate the US for a time because it saw the US as an obstruction to what Russia wanted ( world communism ) .
Hitler hated everybody because they stood in the way of what he wanted ( a German/Arian world ) .I 'll probably be flamed for this ; you can add the Shi'a hate us because we stand in the way of what they want ( an Islamic world ) .
The problem is n't that our Ideologies are wrong it 's that the two conflict with each other .
Therefore there are three options that I know of.. . 1. War ! ! !
2. Becoming an Islamic state .
3. Becoming a communist state , then converting the world to it ( as they do n't allow any religions or other Ideologies ) .
I would be open to any other ideas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Russia appeared to hate the US for a time because it saw the US as an obstruction to what Russia wanted (world communism).
Hitler hated everybody because they stood in the way of what he wanted (a German/Arian world).I'll probably be flamed for this; you can add the Shi'a hate us because we stand in the way of what they want (an Islamic world).
The problem isn't that our Ideologies are wrong it's that the two conflict with each other.
Therefore there are three options that I know of...
1. War!!!
2. Becoming an Islamic state.
3. Becoming a communist state, then converting the world to it (as they don't allow any religions or other Ideologies).
I would be open to any other ideas.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354148</id>
	<title>Do terrotists tell the truth?</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1267634100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He wants to compare similar data from social networks to identify people. So, a person who has something to hide is going to give his real birthday on all sites he uses to hide on? Why?
</p><p>It would be like me creating a false passport, with my real data. How about getting a fake id, with your real age to get into bars?
</p><p>How about a fake University diploma, that shows you failed... A fake doctors license, that has 'revoked' stamped on it? How about stealing the bank details, from a homeless person.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He wants to compare similar data from social networks to identify people .
So , a person who has something to hide is going to give his real birthday on all sites he uses to hide on ?
Why ? It would be like me creating a false passport , with my real data .
How about getting a fake id , with your real age to get into bars ?
How about a fake University diploma , that shows you failed... A fake doctors license , that has 'revoked ' stamped on it ?
How about stealing the bank details , from a homeless person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He wants to compare similar data from social networks to identify people.
So, a person who has something to hide is going to give his real birthday on all sites he uses to hide on?
Why?
It would be like me creating a false passport, with my real data.
How about getting a fake id, with your real age to get into bars?
How about a fake University diploma, that shows you failed... A fake doctors license, that has 'revoked' stamped on it?
How about stealing the bank details, from a homeless person.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352728</id>
	<title>scare tactics</title>
	<author>drDugan</author>
	<datestamp>1267622460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>More ridiculous terrorism scare tactics used for attention.</p><p>"If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer..."   No, I don't.  Most likely you'll find a bunch of harmless pot growers and housewives trying to grow pretty flowers.  People smart enough to really harm a well run society aren't posting details on the Internet.  For the rest of us, these people will just take all the money you can from selling other people's (previously) private data.</p><p>No matter how hard we try, we will not stop determined individuals from attacking any society unless we effectively remove all freedoms from the citizens.  I choose freedom over safety every time.  The solutions to terrorism are NOT more or better surveillance, better technology, or more war.  Real solutions include primarily the creation of a society that people don't WANT to attack.  The reasons people have for suicide bombing and terrorism are usually pretty damn clear: they have nothing left to lose, and someone took advantage of them to direct their hate toward the easiest, most hated target.</p><p>Well, you want to fix terrorism, then address the real reasons for hating your society; it's pretty simple, and the only thing that really works.</p><p>Stories like this, about "scary" technology advances, remind me that as technology moves forward, the essential nature of the rights and freedoms that the US used to stand for and defend are more important now than ever before.</p><p>Here's what I'd like to find:  A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member.  Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all?   A single honest politician?  Even one?  Let's find non-doctors charging Medicare.  Corrupt cops.  Meth distributors.  Human traffickers.   Murderers.  People who built technology just to make money using other people's personal data, and try and frame it using terrorism scare tactics.  Oh wait...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>More ridiculous terrorism scare tactics used for attention .
" If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer... " No , I do n't .
Most likely you 'll find a bunch of harmless pot growers and housewives trying to grow pretty flowers .
People smart enough to really harm a well run society are n't posting details on the Internet .
For the rest of us , these people will just take all the money you can from selling other people 's ( previously ) private data.No matter how hard we try , we will not stop determined individuals from attacking any society unless we effectively remove all freedoms from the citizens .
I choose freedom over safety every time .
The solutions to terrorism are NOT more or better surveillance , better technology , or more war .
Real solutions include primarily the creation of a society that people do n't WANT to attack .
The reasons people have for suicide bombing and terrorism are usually pretty damn clear : they have nothing left to lose , and someone took advantage of them to direct their hate toward the easiest , most hated target.Well , you want to fix terrorism , then address the real reasons for hating your society ; it 's pretty simple , and the only thing that really works.Stories like this , about " scary " technology advances , remind me that as technology moves forward , the essential nature of the rights and freedoms that the US used to stand for and defend are more important now than ever before.Here 's what I 'd like to find : A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member .
Oh , oh , how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all ?
A single honest politician ?
Even one ?
Let 's find non-doctors charging Medicare .
Corrupt cops .
Meth distributors .
Human traffickers .
Murderers. People who built technology just to make money using other people 's personal data , and try and frame it using terrorism scare tactics .
Oh wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More ridiculous terrorism scare tactics used for attention.
"If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer..."   No, I don't.
Most likely you'll find a bunch of harmless pot growers and housewives trying to grow pretty flowers.
People smart enough to really harm a well run society aren't posting details on the Internet.
For the rest of us, these people will just take all the money you can from selling other people's (previously) private data.No matter how hard we try, we will not stop determined individuals from attacking any society unless we effectively remove all freedoms from the citizens.
I choose freedom over safety every time.
The solutions to terrorism are NOT more or better surveillance, better technology, or more war.
Real solutions include primarily the creation of a society that people don't WANT to attack.
The reasons people have for suicide bombing and terrorism are usually pretty damn clear: they have nothing left to lose, and someone took advantage of them to direct their hate toward the easiest, most hated target.Well, you want to fix terrorism, then address the real reasons for hating your society; it's pretty simple, and the only thing that really works.Stories like this, about "scary" technology advances, remind me that as technology moves forward, the essential nature of the rights and freedoms that the US used to stand for and defend are more important now than ever before.Here's what I'd like to find:  A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member.
Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all?
A single honest politician?
Even one?
Let's find non-doctors charging Medicare.
Corrupt cops.
Meth distributors.
Human traffickers.
Murderers.  People who built technology just to make money using other people's personal data, and try and frame it using terrorism scare tactics.
Oh wait...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31365820</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267713240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Osama, for example, took exception to US troops in Middle-East.</p></div></blockquote><p>No.  Osama, very specifically, tok exception to US troops in the Land of Mecca (aka Saudi Arabia).  More specifically, Prince Sultan Air Base, which had been around since Gulf War I.  We closed it around 2005, to very little fanfare in the popular press.  But we actually did give in to one of Osama Bin Laden's top 3 complaints about the USA.  Did he say thank you, or in any way "stop hating us" ?  No, of course not....</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Osama , for example , took exception to US troops in Middle-East.No .
Osama , very specifically , tok exception to US troops in the Land of Mecca ( aka Saudi Arabia ) .
More specifically , Prince Sultan Air Base , which had been around since Gulf War I. We closed it around 2005 , to very little fanfare in the popular press .
But we actually did give in to one of Osama Bin Laden 's top 3 complaints about the USA .
Did he say thank you , or in any way " stop hating us " ?
No , of course not... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Osama, for example, took exception to US troops in Middle-East.No.
Osama, very specifically, tok exception to US troops in the Land of Mecca (aka Saudi Arabia).
More specifically, Prince Sultan Air Base, which had been around since Gulf War I.  We closed it around 2005, to very little fanfare in the popular press.
But we actually did give in to one of Osama Bin Laden's top 3 complaints about the USA.
Did he say thank you, or in any way "stop hating us" ?
No, of course not....
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31355896</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352808</id>
	<title>Why the fuck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267623060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>would they have access to my emails in the first place.<br>The captcha is dignity, which is fitting considering this world seems to have lost it's.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>would they have access to my emails in the first place.The captcha is dignity , which is fitting considering this world seems to have lost it 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>would they have access to my emails in the first place.The captcha is dignity, which is fitting considering this world seems to have lost it's.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352704</id>
	<title>But does it know me?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267622340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Like to know if it finds out who I am.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Like to know if it finds out who I am .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like to know if it finds out who I am.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353280</id>
	<title>Breathe them vapors</title>
	<author>Datamonstar</author>
	<datestamp>1267627020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude needs to learn how to use Google before he takes on a task of this magnitude. Or, more aptly, before TALKING about taking on a task of this magnitude, which is all he's doing at the moment.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude needs to learn how to use Google before he takes on a task of this magnitude .
Or , more aptly , before TALKING about taking on a task of this magnitude , which is all he 's doing at the moment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude needs to learn how to use Google before he takes on a task of this magnitude.
Or, more aptly, before TALKING about taking on a task of this magnitude, which is all he's doing at the moment.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353048</id>
	<title>Semantic web</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267624800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>'It's going to go through a set of documents and automatically it's going to organize them in topics &mdash; I'm not talking about keywords as is done today, I'm talking about topics,' he said. That can't be done with today's technology, he said.</p></div></blockquote><p>It sounds like what he's talking about is semantic parsing of data.  If his system is predicated on automated semantic data parsing, that seems like a pretty big step in the project.  It's a problem that CS has been working on for decades.  It's not exactly a minor thing that they'll get out of the way early on.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>'It 's going to go through a set of documents and automatically it 's going to organize them in topics    I 'm not talking about keywords as is done today , I 'm talking about topics, ' he said .
That ca n't be done with today 's technology , he said.It sounds like what he 's talking about is semantic parsing of data .
If his system is predicated on automated semantic data parsing , that seems like a pretty big step in the project .
It 's a problem that CS has been working on for decades .
It 's not exactly a minor thing that they 'll get out of the way early on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>'It's going to go through a set of documents and automatically it's going to organize them in topics — I'm not talking about keywords as is done today, I'm talking about topics,' he said.
That can't be done with today's technology, he said.It sounds like what he's talking about is semantic parsing of data.
If his system is predicated on automated semantic data parsing, that seems like a pretty big step in the project.
It's a problem that CS has been working on for decades.
It's not exactly a minor thing that they'll get out of the way early on.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31357476</id>
	<title>Narus continues to build "Big Brother"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267715160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Narus products have always been about telling you who is doing what with you, when and for how long on your network.

<a href="http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/05/70914" title="wired.com">http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/05/70914</a> [wired.com]

<a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/27629223/All-About-NSA-s-and-AT-amp-T-s-Big-Brother-Machine-The-Narus" title="scribd.com">http://www.scribd.com/doc/27629223/All-About-NSA-s-and-AT-amp-T-s-Big-Brother-Machine-The-Narus</a> [scribd.com]

<a href="http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/631feature06.html" title="xchangemag.com">http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/631feature06.html</a> [xchangemag.com]

<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/8/14724/28476" title="dailykos.com">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/8/14724/28476</a> [dailykos.com]

There has even been speculation that their products are at the core of "Carnivore" and/or "ESCHELON"
<a href="http://www.texaskaos.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2496" title="texaskaos.com">http://www.texaskaos.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2496</a> [texaskaos.com]

Their primary customers are three letter agencies and the biggest of the big IP backbone providers.

If you put devices capable of tracking every IP stream, encrypted or not, with source, destination, duration, size and QOS and you can start associating every stream with an identifiable person, adding to that the ability to extrapolate based upon types of user communities, net anonymity will certainly becaome lless possible.

Now the question is, who watches the watchmen?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Narus products have always been about telling you who is doing what with you , when and for how long on your network .
http : //www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/05/70914 [ wired.com ] http : //www.scribd.com/doc/27629223/All-About-NSA-s-and-AT-amp-T-s-Big-Brother-Machine-The-Narus [ scribd.com ] http : //www.xchangemag.com/articles/631feature06.html [ xchangemag.com ] http : //www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/8/14724/28476 [ dailykos.com ] There has even been speculation that their products are at the core of " Carnivore " and/or " ESCHELON " http : //www.texaskaos.com/showDiary.do ? diaryId = 2496 [ texaskaos.com ] Their primary customers are three letter agencies and the biggest of the big IP backbone providers .
If you put devices capable of tracking every IP stream , encrypted or not , with source , destination , duration , size and QOS and you can start associating every stream with an identifiable person , adding to that the ability to extrapolate based upon types of user communities , net anonymity will certainly becaome lless possible .
Now the question is , who watches the watchmen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Narus products have always been about telling you who is doing what with you, when and for how long on your network.
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/05/70914 [wired.com]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/27629223/All-About-NSA-s-and-AT-amp-T-s-Big-Brother-Machine-The-Narus [scribd.com]

http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/631feature06.html [xchangemag.com]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/8/14724/28476 [dailykos.com]

There has even been speculation that their products are at the core of "Carnivore" and/or "ESCHELON"
http://www.texaskaos.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2496 [texaskaos.com]

Their primary customers are three letter agencies and the biggest of the big IP backbone providers.
If you put devices capable of tracking every IP stream, encrypted or not, with source, destination, duration, size and QOS and you can start associating every stream with an identifiable person, adding to that the ability to extrapolate based upon types of user communities, net anonymity will certainly becaome lless possible.
Now the question is, who watches the watchmen?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354368</id>
	<title>Phil Marlowe, Social Media Sleuth</title>
	<author>Gizzmonic</author>
	<datestamp>1267636440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apologies, I'm reposting this from a few months ago, but I thought it was appropriate:</p><p>The faded gold lettering on the door says "Philip Marlowe." My digs aren't in the greatest part of town, but that suits me just fine. I'm a blogger-one of the few honest ones out there. Work was a little slow-I was spending some time on important research-reading Slashdot. I was just about to hit the submit button on a post entitled "Frosty Piss!" when the dame shrugged her way through my door. If I'd have known what was going to happen next, I would have stuck to trolling.</p><p>She was tall for an Oriental, but not unappealing. She wore a black silk dress cut in traditional Chinese manner, studded with soft pink roses. Her eyes were black and silky as the dress. They didn't stay still. "Are you Marlowe?" she asked, scanning the room.</p><p>"Sure," I replied diffidently.</p><p>"Your blogging reputation proceeds you. The Chinese government has a job for you."</p><p>"Nuts to that. I don't work for commies."</p><p>"I could make it worth your while, Mr. Marlowe."</p><p>"If I sold out to every fancy-pants who walked through that door, would I be working in this place?"</p><p>"I understand your position, Marlowe, but listen. There's a 24-year-old kid who got beaten to death while in police custody. The police say it was from playing hide-and-seek. We need an official investigation, and you're the best investigational blogger we know."</p><p>"Sure it wasn't from 'ring around the rosie'?" I smirked nastily. She took a sharp breath.</p><p>"Listen, Marlowe, don't you want to help improve the situation? I know you've had certain...shall we say...run-ins with hyperactive authority figures in the past. Surely this could help your reputation."</p><p>"MY reputation?" I practically yelled. "Lady, I've been called a troll, a spammer, and an astroturfer more times than you can count on your abacus. I've been modded down, banned, accused of violating TOSs, but I'm still here. So don't think you can tell me about my reputation. I'll do it for $100/day plus expenses."</p><p>"Very good, Mr. Marlowe," she purred.</p><p>"Oh, and one more thing," I stood up and got my hat. "I'd better be on the official Chinese government blogroll by sundown, or you're gonna have to find yourself a new patsy."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apologies , I 'm reposting this from a few months ago , but I thought it was appropriate : The faded gold lettering on the door says " Philip Marlowe .
" My digs are n't in the greatest part of town , but that suits me just fine .
I 'm a blogger-one of the few honest ones out there .
Work was a little slow-I was spending some time on important research-reading Slashdot .
I was just about to hit the submit button on a post entitled " Frosty Piss !
" when the dame shrugged her way through my door .
If I 'd have known what was going to happen next , I would have stuck to trolling.She was tall for an Oriental , but not unappealing .
She wore a black silk dress cut in traditional Chinese manner , studded with soft pink roses .
Her eyes were black and silky as the dress .
They did n't stay still .
" Are you Marlowe ?
" she asked , scanning the room .
" Sure , " I replied diffidently .
" Your blogging reputation proceeds you .
The Chinese government has a job for you .
" " Nuts to that .
I do n't work for commies .
" " I could make it worth your while , Mr .
Marlowe. " " If I sold out to every fancy-pants who walked through that door , would I be working in this place ?
" " I understand your position , Marlowe , but listen .
There 's a 24-year-old kid who got beaten to death while in police custody .
The police say it was from playing hide-and-seek .
We need an official investigation , and you 're the best investigational blogger we know .
" " Sure it was n't from 'ring around the rosie ' ?
" I smirked nastily .
She took a sharp breath .
" Listen , Marlowe , do n't you want to help improve the situation ?
I know you 've had certain...shall we say...run-ins with hyperactive authority figures in the past .
Surely this could help your reputation .
" " MY reputation ?
" I practically yelled .
" Lady , I 've been called a troll , a spammer , and an astroturfer more times than you can count on your abacus .
I 've been modded down , banned , accused of violating TOSs , but I 'm still here .
So do n't think you can tell me about my reputation .
I 'll do it for $ 100/day plus expenses .
" " Very good , Mr. Marlowe , " she purred .
" Oh , and one more thing , " I stood up and got my hat .
" I 'd better be on the official Chinese government blogroll by sundown , or you 're gon na have to find yourself a new patsy .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apologies, I'm reposting this from a few months ago, but I thought it was appropriate:The faded gold lettering on the door says "Philip Marlowe.
" My digs aren't in the greatest part of town, but that suits me just fine.
I'm a blogger-one of the few honest ones out there.
Work was a little slow-I was spending some time on important research-reading Slashdot.
I was just about to hit the submit button on a post entitled "Frosty Piss!
" when the dame shrugged her way through my door.
If I'd have known what was going to happen next, I would have stuck to trolling.She was tall for an Oriental, but not unappealing.
She wore a black silk dress cut in traditional Chinese manner, studded with soft pink roses.
Her eyes were black and silky as the dress.
They didn't stay still.
"Are you Marlowe?
" she asked, scanning the room.
"Sure," I replied diffidently.
"Your blogging reputation proceeds you.
The Chinese government has a job for you.
""Nuts to that.
I don't work for commies.
""I could make it worth your while, Mr.
Marlowe.""If I sold out to every fancy-pants who walked through that door, would I be working in this place?
""I understand your position, Marlowe, but listen.
There's a 24-year-old kid who got beaten to death while in police custody.
The police say it was from playing hide-and-seek.
We need an official investigation, and you're the best investigational blogger we know.
""Sure it wasn't from 'ring around the rosie'?
" I smirked nastily.
She took a sharp breath.
"Listen, Marlowe, don't you want to help improve the situation?
I know you've had certain...shall we say...run-ins with hyperactive authority figures in the past.
Surely this could help your reputation.
""MY reputation?
" I practically yelled.
"Lady, I've been called a troll, a spammer, and an astroturfer more times than you can count on your abacus.
I've been modded down, banned, accused of violating TOSs, but I'm still here.
So don't think you can tell me about my reputation.
I'll do it for $100/day plus expenses.
""Very good, Mr. Marlowe," she purred.
"Oh, and one more thing," I stood up and got my hat.
"I'd better be on the official Chinese government blogroll by sundown, or you're gonna have to find yourself a new patsy.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31358342</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>NickFortune</author>
	<datestamp>1267720680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Do I think the US does things wrong? Oh, definitely. But I don't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I don't think you can assume that <i>all</i> terrorists would stop hating the US if the US were to clean up its act in a few areas. On the other hand, it seems like a fair bet that a lot of them wouldn't hate the US <i>quite so much</i>.
</p><p>
Which could be good. You could probably get quite a lot of them to the point where, while they didn't like you very much, they really weren't upset enough about it to fly a plane into the side of building. Or strap explosives to their chest and look for an inconvenient to place to detonate themselves.
</p><p>
This isn't a case of "either/or". It's not "either they hate us or they don't". It's more "how many" and "how much". The right changes in behaviour could shift a lot of potential terrorists into the disgruntled-but-harmless category. That has to be a good thing, right?
</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do I think the US does things wrong ?
Oh , definitely .
But I do n't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong I do n't think you can assume that all terrorists would stop hating the US if the US were to clean up its act in a few areas .
On the other hand , it seems like a fair bet that a lot of them would n't hate the US quite so much .
Which could be good .
You could probably get quite a lot of them to the point where , while they did n't like you very much , they really were n't upset enough about it to fly a plane into the side of building .
Or strap explosives to their chest and look for an inconvenient to place to detonate themselves .
This is n't a case of " either/or " .
It 's not " either they hate us or they do n't " .
It 's more " how many " and " how much " .
The right changes in behaviour could shift a lot of potential terrorists into the disgruntled-but-harmless category .
That has to be a good thing , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do I think the US does things wrong?
Oh, definitely.
But I don't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong

I don't think you can assume that all terrorists would stop hating the US if the US were to clean up its act in a few areas.
On the other hand, it seems like a fair bet that a lot of them wouldn't hate the US quite so much.
Which could be good.
You could probably get quite a lot of them to the point where, while they didn't like you very much, they really weren't upset enough about it to fly a plane into the side of building.
Or strap explosives to their chest and look for an inconvenient to place to detonate themselves.
This isn't a case of "either/or".
It's not "either they hate us or they don't".
It's more "how many" and "how much".
The right changes in behaviour could shift a lot of potential terrorists into the disgruntled-but-harmless category.
That has to be a good thing, right?

	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352790</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354320</id>
	<title>Be afraid...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267635960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone who's used Narus equipment (I'm willing to bet that the numbers are very small, even here on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/.) can attest to the fact that its implementation is rarely done for the purposes of securing a network.  Rather, in every case I've seen, it's done in the name of securing a society.  The technology that Narus has (and has had for some time) is incredible.  I have seen it implemented in some of the most despot countries in the world for the sole purpose of catching 'evildoers' (you know, folks who dare speak out against the regime).  Thank goodness Narus has come up with a reliable way to catch those pesky anonymous ones.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone who 's used Narus equipment ( I 'm willing to bet that the numbers are very small , even here on / .
) can attest to the fact that its implementation is rarely done for the purposes of securing a network .
Rather , in every case I 've seen , it 's done in the name of securing a society .
The technology that Narus has ( and has had for some time ) is incredible .
I have seen it implemented in some of the most despot countries in the world for the sole purpose of catching 'evildoers ' ( you know , folks who dare speak out against the regime ) .
Thank goodness Narus has come up with a reliable way to catch those pesky anonymous ones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone who's used Narus equipment (I'm willing to bet that the numbers are very small, even here on /.
) can attest to the fact that its implementation is rarely done for the purposes of securing a network.
Rather, in every case I've seen, it's done in the name of securing a society.
The technology that Narus has (and has had for some time) is incredible.
I have seen it implemented in some of the most despot countries in the world for the sole purpose of catching 'evildoers' (you know, folks who dare speak out against the regime).
Thank goodness Narus has come up with a reliable way to catch those pesky anonymous ones.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354610</id>
	<title>On the internet?</title>
	<author>Anne\_Nonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer</p><p>That's pretty much the whole internet; a lot of non-farmers talking a bunch of shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; non-farmers who are discussing fertilizerThat 's pretty much the whole internet ; a lot of non-farmers talking a bunch of shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; non-farmers who are discussing fertilizerThat's pretty much the whole internet; a lot of non-farmers talking a bunch of shit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31357530</id>
	<title>Re:Whats the point?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267715460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites</p></div></blockquote><p>You'd be <a href="http://translate.google.es/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=es&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=1&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http://www.forocnp.com/foros/viewtopic.php\%3Ff\%3D52\%26t\%3D3233\%26start\%3D0\%26sid\%3Dfec17b03673dcb42f3c393ed90921e4a\%26view\%3Dprint&amp;sl=es&amp;tl=en" title="google.es" rel="nofollow">surprised</a> [google.es].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sitesYou 'd be surprised [ google.es ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sitesYou'd be surprised [google.es].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352916</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353180</id>
	<title>Re:scare tactics</title>
	<author>flyneye</author>
	<datestamp>1267626000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"No matter how hard we try, we will not stop determined individuals from attacking any society"</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mr. Smith says "You're wrong". Mr. Wesson agrees.</p><p>"Real solutions include primarily the creation of a society that people don't WANT to attack. ''</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah just like France prepping for the Nazis. They're still a force to reckon with ~snort...</p><p>"Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all? A single honest politician?"</p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; They don't lose moral compass, they just get built in GPS.  lol, oxymorons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" No matter how hard we try , we will not stop determined individuals from attacking any society "           Mr. Smith says " You 're wrong " .
Mr. Wesson agrees .
" Real solutions include primarily the creation of a society that people do n't WANT to attack .
' '       Yeah just like France prepping for the Nazis .
They 're still a force to reckon with ~ snort... " Oh , oh , how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all ?
A single honest politician ?
"           They do n't lose moral compass , they just get built in GPS .
lol , oxymorons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"No matter how hard we try, we will not stop determined individuals from attacking any society"
          Mr. Smith says "You're wrong".
Mr. Wesson agrees.
"Real solutions include primarily the creation of a society that people don't WANT to attack.
''
      Yeah just like France prepping for the Nazis.
They're still a force to reckon with ~snort..."Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all?
A single honest politician?
"
          They don't lose moral compass, they just get built in GPS.
lol, oxymorons.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31354830</id>
	<title>Re:Whats the point?</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1267641420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites. They are already using encryption - probably one time pads, steganography, shared secret encryption with infinite-length keys and the like and will always be able to continue doing so.</i> </p><p>Real spies hate spy tech.</p><p>Simply to possess it compounds the risk of exposure.</p><p>Real spies network. There is nothing quite so anonymous and reassuring as being a face in the crowd.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites .
They are already using encryption - probably one time pads , steganography , shared secret encryption with infinite-length keys and the like and will always be able to continue doing so .
Real spies hate spy tech.Simply to possess it compounds the risk of exposure.Real spies network .
There is nothing quite so anonymous and reassuring as being a face in the crowd .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites.
They are already using encryption - probably one time pads, steganography, shared secret encryption with infinite-length keys and the like and will always be able to continue doing so.
Real spies hate spy tech.Simply to possess it compounds the risk of exposure.Real spies network.
There is nothing quite so anonymous and reassuring as being a face in the crowd.
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353320</id>
	<title>Re:Ummmm....</title>
	<author>teh moges</author>
	<datestamp>1267627380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>You don't need to market to 'the masses' to make (substantial) money off a product. Law enforcement is a big enough market if you get good saturation and Google + other ad networks would be a massive market.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You do n't need to market to 'the masses ' to make ( substantial ) money off a product .
Law enforcement is a big enough market if you get good saturation and Google + other ad networks would be a massive market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You don't need to market to 'the masses' to make (substantial) money off a product.
Law enforcement is a big enough market if you get good saturation and Google + other ad networks would be a massive market.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31353036</id>
	<title>Re:Ummmm....</title>
	<author>Charliemopps</author>
	<datestamp>1267624680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>as if you need wiretapping to get all this info. Have you been paying attention lately? We gave away our right to privacy at least 5 years ago. It's gone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>as if you need wiretapping to get all this info .
Have you been paying attention lately ?
We gave away our right to privacy at least 5 years ago .
It 's gone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as if you need wiretapping to get all this info.
Have you been paying attention lately?
We gave away our right to privacy at least 5 years ago.
It's gone.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_239201.31352994</id>
	<title>"non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer"</title>
	<author>pgn674</author>
	<datestamp>1267624380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hah! I get 94 results! And... the first result is Slashdot. And there are no results that don't have the word 'for' in front of 'non-farmers'...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hah !
I get 94 results !
And... the first result is Slashdot .
And there are no results that do n't have the word 'for ' in front of 'non-farmers'.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hah!
I get 94 results!
And... the first result is Slashdot.
And there are no results that don't have the word 'for' in front of 'non-farmers'...</sentencetext>
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