<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_03_1622223</id>
	<title>Bloggers Now Eligible For Press Passes In NYC</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1267637100000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>RobotRunAmok writes <i>"The New York City Police Department announced Tuesday that bloggers and others who publish on the Web <a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art\_aid=123531&amp;nid=111735">will now be eligible for press credentials</a>. The move comes as a result of a lawsuit filed in 2008 by three Web journalists who were denied press passes. In New York, journalists with press passes are typically allowed to cross police barricades at public events. 'Events that will qualify include city-sponsored activity &mdash; like a press conference or parade &mdash; as well as emergencies where the city has set up do-not-cross lines. The proposal also allows inexperienced journalists to obtain single-use press passes. Longtime civil rights lawyer Norman Siegel, who represented the journalists who sued, says the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do, and not the organization they write for.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>RobotRunAmok writes " The New York City Police Department announced Tuesday that bloggers and others who publish on the Web will now be eligible for press credentials .
The move comes as a result of a lawsuit filed in 2008 by three Web journalists who were denied press passes .
In New York , journalists with press passes are typically allowed to cross police barricades at public events .
'Events that will qualify include city-sponsored activity    like a press conference or parade    as well as emergencies where the city has set up do-not-cross lines .
The proposal also allows inexperienced journalists to obtain single-use press passes .
Longtime civil rights lawyer Norman Siegel , who represented the journalists who sued , says the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do , and not the organization they write for .
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<sentencetext>RobotRunAmok writes "The New York City Police Department announced Tuesday that bloggers and others who publish on the Web will now be eligible for press credentials.
The move comes as a result of a lawsuit filed in 2008 by three Web journalists who were denied press passes.
In New York, journalists with press passes are typically allowed to cross police barricades at public events.
'Events that will qualify include city-sponsored activity — like a press conference or parade — as well as emergencies where the city has set up do-not-cross lines.
The proposal also allows inexperienced journalists to obtain single-use press passes.
Longtime civil rights lawyer Norman Siegel, who represented the journalists who sued, says the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do, and not the organization they write for.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347934</id>
	<title>freedom of the press for those that own presses</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267642200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>used to be.</p><p>Now it's freedom or the press for those with mod points!</p><p>(flamebait, i know)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>used to be.Now it 's freedom or the press for those with mod points !
( flamebait , i know )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>used to be.Now it's freedom or the press for those with mod points!
(flamebait, i know)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348768</id>
	<title>Re:Journalism or just diarrhea?</title>
	<author>SwedishPenguin</author>
	<datestamp>1267646160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Which is why they're going to look at what they've written previously. The same rules should apply to "news organziations".<br>Is this journalism? <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/03/jessica.simpson.oprah/index.html?hpt=T2" title="cnn.com">http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/03/jessica.simpson.oprah/index.html?hpt=T2</a> [cnn.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Which is why they 're going to look at what they 've written previously .
The same rules should apply to " news organziations " .Is this journalism ?
http : //www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/03/jessica.simpson.oprah/index.html ? hpt = T2 [ cnn.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which is why they're going to look at what they've written previously.
The same rules should apply to "news organziations".Is this journalism?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/03/jessica.simpson.oprah/index.html?hpt=T2 [cnn.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347828</id>
	<title>Journalism or just diarrhea?</title>
	<author>carlhaagen</author>
	<datestamp>1267641660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>An interesting detail is that 99\% of the "bloggers" on the web only post volatile, vain bollox, and that cannot count as journalism, which I believe is a requirement for a press pass.</htmltext>
<tokenext>An interesting detail is that 99 \ % of the " bloggers " on the web only post volatile , vain bollox , and that can not count as journalism , which I believe is a requirement for a press pass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An interesting detail is that 99\% of the "bloggers" on the web only post volatile, vain bollox, and that cannot count as journalism, which I believe is a requirement for a press pass.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349738</id>
	<title>Re:Bloggers for Satan.</title>
	<author>SatanicPuppy</author>
	<datestamp>1267607760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They aren't <em>hiring</em> anyone. They're just saying that you won't automatically be turned away because you don't represent a big media outlet.</p><p>These events are standing room only. Not everyone is going to get in regardless, and the current rules about journalists are just a rule of necessity to keep the attendance under control.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are n't hiring anyone .
They 're just saying that you wo n't automatically be turned away because you do n't represent a big media outlet.These events are standing room only .
Not everyone is going to get in regardless , and the current rules about journalists are just a rule of necessity to keep the attendance under control .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They aren't hiring anyone.
They're just saying that you won't automatically be turned away because you don't represent a big media outlet.These events are standing room only.
Not everyone is going to get in regardless, and the current rules about journalists are just a rule of necessity to keep the attendance under control.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347872</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348096</id>
	<title>Re:Bloggers for Satan.</title>
	<author>sobachatina</author>
	<datestamp>1267642920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I disagree with you completely.</p><p>It is impossible to guarantee that a journalist is going to report an event with a bias in your favor. You can't expect it now from traditional journalists- why would you expect it from bloggers.</p><p>It is not the responsibility of the police or event organizers or the people who issue press passes to evaluate potential biases in the journalists.</p><p>It IS the responsibility of the readers of those journalists to identify their biases and accept or reject their reports accordingly- just like it always has been with reporting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree with you completely.It is impossible to guarantee that a journalist is going to report an event with a bias in your favor .
You ca n't expect it now from traditional journalists- why would you expect it from bloggers.It is not the responsibility of the police or event organizers or the people who issue press passes to evaluate potential biases in the journalists.It IS the responsibility of the readers of those journalists to identify their biases and accept or reject their reports accordingly- just like it always has been with reporting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree with you completely.It is impossible to guarantee that a journalist is going to report an event with a bias in your favor.
You can't expect it now from traditional journalists- why would you expect it from bloggers.It is not the responsibility of the police or event organizers or the people who issue press passes to evaluate potential biases in the journalists.It IS the responsibility of the readers of those journalists to identify their biases and accept or reject their reports accordingly- just like it always has been with reporting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347738</id>
	<title>I write for Slashdot</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1267641120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I post opinions, rumors, announcements, and other "media-like" information right here on this very site in the form of comments. Unfortunately, because I don't submit stories, enter journals, or edit summaries (I don't think the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. editors do either) I am not considered a journalist.</p><p>Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual, interesting, engaging, inciteful, and sometimes funny, my work (and I don't hesitate to call it work) here as a active contributor to the discussions surrounding each story is like dust in the wind, dude.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I post opinions , rumors , announcements , and other " media-like " information right here on this very site in the form of comments .
Unfortunately , because I do n't submit stories , enter journals , or edit summaries ( I do n't think the / .
editors do either ) I am not considered a journalist.Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual , interesting , engaging , inciteful , and sometimes funny , my work ( and I do n't hesitate to call it work ) here as a active contributor to the discussions surrounding each story is like dust in the wind , dude .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I post opinions, rumors, announcements, and other "media-like" information right here on this very site in the form of comments.
Unfortunately, because I don't submit stories, enter journals, or edit summaries (I don't think the /.
editors do either) I am not considered a journalist.Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual, interesting, engaging, inciteful, and sometimes funny, my work (and I don't hesitate to call it work) here as a active contributor to the discussions surrounding each story is like dust in the wind, dude.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347860</id>
	<title>Re:I write for Slashdot</title>
	<author>characterZer0</author>
	<datestamp>1267641840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>inciteful</p></div></blockquote><p>It is not a word, but it should be.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>incitefulIt is not a word , but it should be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>incitefulIt is not a word, but it should be.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347738</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348290</id>
	<title>Mixed feelings.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267643820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>On one hand this is a great victory for free speech/freedom of the press. On the other hand, if they start handing out press passes to anyone then there is a real threat for terrorists to easily get their hands on press passes. I just hope they do some kind of background check first. 'Hi I'm from Al Qaeda news and would like to bring some camera equipment backstage for the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade. Don't mind the canisters marked anthrax, it's the new Kodak anthrax film. '</htmltext>
<tokenext>On one hand this is a great victory for free speech/freedom of the press .
On the other hand , if they start handing out press passes to anyone then there is a real threat for terrorists to easily get their hands on press passes .
I just hope they do some kind of background check first .
'Hi I 'm from Al Qaeda news and would like to bring some camera equipment backstage for the Macy 's Thanksgiving day parade .
Do n't mind the canisters marked anthrax , it 's the new Kodak anthrax film .
'</tokentext>
<sentencetext>On one hand this is a great victory for free speech/freedom of the press.
On the other hand, if they start handing out press passes to anyone then there is a real threat for terrorists to easily get their hands on press passes.
I just hope they do some kind of background check first.
'Hi I'm from Al Qaeda news and would like to bring some camera equipment backstage for the Macy's Thanksgiving day parade.
Don't mind the canisters marked anthrax, it's the new Kodak anthrax film.
'</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349870</id>
	<title>Free parking</title>
	<author>eht</author>
	<datestamp>1267608180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are a number of "Press" parking spots in NYC. A large number of people get the passes for free parking and get maps detailing the locations of these spots. You are not allowed to park in these spots without either the press license plate or a placard in your window, if you do have either of those, free parking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are a number of " Press " parking spots in NYC .
A large number of people get the passes for free parking and get maps detailing the locations of these spots .
You are not allowed to park in these spots without either the press license plate or a placard in your window , if you do have either of those , free parking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are a number of "Press" parking spots in NYC.
A large number of people get the passes for free parking and get maps detailing the locations of these spots.
You are not allowed to park in these spots without either the press license plate or a placard in your window, if you do have either of those, free parking.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349206</id>
	<title>Re:Finally.</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1267648440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What's been missing from the coverage the David Patterson press conferences has been the shrewd, insightful experience and reportage from the OMG ponies! perspective.</p></div><p>Man, how on earth did they manage to exclude the <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/03/02/sarah-palin-takes-late-night-comedy/?test=latestnews" title="foxnews.com">cable</a> [foxnews.com] <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/living/2010/03/02/nsif.a.mothers.night.cnn?hpt=C2" title="cnn.com">news</a> [cnn.com] <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35689402/ns/entertainment-reality\_tv/" title="msn.com">networks</a> [msn.com]?</p><p>(PS I honestly can't tell if you were making that same point only more subtly, or if you were honestly implying bloggers had less credibility than "real news.")</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's been missing from the coverage the David Patterson press conferences has been the shrewd , insightful experience and reportage from the OMG ponies !
perspective.Man , how on earth did they manage to exclude the cable [ foxnews.com ] news [ cnn.com ] networks [ msn.com ] ?
( PS I honestly ca n't tell if you were making that same point only more subtly , or if you were honestly implying bloggers had less credibility than " real news .
" )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's been missing from the coverage the David Patterson press conferences has been the shrewd, insightful experience and reportage from the OMG ponies!
perspective.Man, how on earth did they manage to exclude the cable [foxnews.com] news [cnn.com] networks [msn.com]?
(PS I honestly can't tell if you were making that same point only more subtly, or if you were honestly implying bloggers had less credibility than "real news.
")
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348194</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347728</id>
	<title>Start with the journalists who were laid off...</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1267641120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is starting to become the new form of journalism. The "big guys" like TV and radio owners are starting to lay off their full time staff, and replacing them with people who can report, record, and edit their own pieces who get paid by the number of reports they generate that make air.</p><p>To the average news viewer, this is almost transparent... so the standard shouldn't be "I work for CNN," but "CNN uses my iReports regularly."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is starting to become the new form of journalism .
The " big guys " like TV and radio owners are starting to lay off their full time staff , and replacing them with people who can report , record , and edit their own pieces who get paid by the number of reports they generate that make air.To the average news viewer , this is almost transparent... so the standard should n't be " I work for CNN , " but " CNN uses my iReports regularly .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is starting to become the new form of journalism.
The "big guys" like TV and radio owners are starting to lay off their full time staff, and replacing them with people who can report, record, and edit their own pieces who get paid by the number of reports they generate that make air.To the average news viewer, this is almost transparent... so the standard shouldn't be "I work for CNN," but "CNN uses my iReports regularly.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31351368</id>
	<title>Re:great, thanks a lot</title>
	<author>Dan541</author>
	<datestamp>1267615320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why should you get special treatment?</p><p>If you can't survive the competition, especially from people who only have 5 readers then your not very good and should probably find something else to do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why should you get special treatment ? If you ca n't survive the competition , especially from people who only have 5 readers then your not very good and should probably find something else to do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why should you get special treatment?If you can't survive the competition, especially from people who only have 5 readers then your not very good and should probably find something else to do.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347718</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348034</id>
	<title>Re:I write for Slashdot</title>
	<author>Akido37</author>
	<datestamp>1267642680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I post opinions, rumors, announcements, and other "media-like" information right here on this very site in the form of comments. Unfortunately, because I don't submit stories, enter journals, or edit summaries (I don't think the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. editors do either) I am not considered a journalist.</p><p>Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual, interesting, engaging, inciteful, and sometimes funny, my work (and I don't hesitate to call it work) here as a active contributor to the discussions surrounding each story is like dust in the wind, dude.</p></div><p>Maybe I missed it, but where was the Bad Analogy?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I post opinions , rumors , announcements , and other " media-like " information right here on this very site in the form of comments .
Unfortunately , because I do n't submit stories , enter journals , or edit summaries ( I do n't think the / .
editors do either ) I am not considered a journalist.Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual , interesting , engaging , inciteful , and sometimes funny , my work ( and I do n't hesitate to call it work ) here as a active contributor to the discussions surrounding each story is like dust in the wind , dude.Maybe I missed it , but where was the Bad Analogy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I post opinions, rumors, announcements, and other "media-like" information right here on this very site in the form of comments.
Unfortunately, because I don't submit stories, enter journals, or edit summaries (I don't think the /.
editors do either) I am not considered a journalist.Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual, interesting, engaging, inciteful, and sometimes funny, my work (and I don't hesitate to call it work) here as a active contributor to the discussions surrounding each story is like dust in the wind, dude.Maybe I missed it, but where was the Bad Analogy?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347738</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31350754</id>
	<title>Re:What a great idea!</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1267612380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No, traditional media isn't perfect and bias free, but regardless of all the political bullshit out there, I still have far more faith that I'm going to be able to filter out the bullshit from traditional media far easier than figuring out the agenda of some random blogger who's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life.</p></div><p>Nice strawman argument you created for yourself there.</p><p>There are a lot of sites that were started by "some random blogger who's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life" (like Fark, Slashdot, RedState, Daily Kos) and are now a big deal in both the online world and the offline one.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No , traditional media is n't perfect and bias free , but regardless of all the political bullshit out there , I still have far more faith that I 'm going to be able to filter out the bullshit from traditional media far easier than figuring out the agenda of some random blogger who 's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life.Nice strawman argument you created for yourself there.There are a lot of sites that were started by " some random blogger who 's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life " ( like Fark , Slashdot , RedState , Daily Kos ) and are now a big deal in both the online world and the offline one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, traditional media isn't perfect and bias free, but regardless of all the political bullshit out there, I still have far more faith that I'm going to be able to filter out the bullshit from traditional media far easier than figuring out the agenda of some random blogger who's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life.Nice strawman argument you created for yourself there.There are a lot of sites that were started by "some random blogger who's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life" (like Fark, Slashdot, RedState, Daily Kos) and are now a big deal in both the online world and the offline one.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348896</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31351848</id>
	<title>Been there, done that, mixed feelings</title>
	<author>Threemoons</author>
	<datestamp>1267617540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have mixed feelings about this. I was a freelance business writer during the end of the DotCom boom. I actually did have some published pieces, and because of that, I didn't have too hard a problem getting into MOST industry events (where I was professional and actually working).</p><p>However, those same tech events were even then littered with "faux press" already--guys who showed up with huge empty duffel bags for the sole purpose of hoarding all of the free crap that they could grab, like T-shirts, software samples, etc. It made it almost impossible to get a legit review copy of anything, be it a book or a software title, if you got there past the first open hour, because the grabbers had already been through.</p><p>There was a whole sub-tribe of folks who I ran into for years who did nothing at trade shows and industry events other than get drunk, eat as much food as possible in the press room, and take as much free crap as they could carry.</p><p>ON THE OTHER HAND.....</p><p>I know lots of very good and legit bloggers and photgraphers who were shut out of events precisely due to lack of previous "paper" published work or byline in-hand.  It seemed very arbitrary.</p><p>The grabbers always made it in, but a lot of honest folks trying to make a start for themselves got shut out.</p><p>I don't know what the legality of a two-tier press pass system would be, but it would be nice if there was some kind of intermediate "apprentice" pass available for just-starters.  If they get a positive follow-up from an event organizer X number of times, they could "graduate" to a full pass.  If they're not grabbers or bullshit artists, then they wouldn't mind giving a real URL and a real name for contact purposes.</p><p>Just a thought and my 2c.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have mixed feelings about this .
I was a freelance business writer during the end of the DotCom boom .
I actually did have some published pieces , and because of that , I did n't have too hard a problem getting into MOST industry events ( where I was professional and actually working ) .However , those same tech events were even then littered with " faux press " already--guys who showed up with huge empty duffel bags for the sole purpose of hoarding all of the free crap that they could grab , like T-shirts , software samples , etc .
It made it almost impossible to get a legit review copy of anything , be it a book or a software title , if you got there past the first open hour , because the grabbers had already been through.There was a whole sub-tribe of folks who I ran into for years who did nothing at trade shows and industry events other than get drunk , eat as much food as possible in the press room , and take as much free crap as they could carry.ON THE OTHER HAND.....I know lots of very good and legit bloggers and photgraphers who were shut out of events precisely due to lack of previous " paper " published work or byline in-hand .
It seemed very arbitrary.The grabbers always made it in , but a lot of honest folks trying to make a start for themselves got shut out.I do n't know what the legality of a two-tier press pass system would be , but it would be nice if there was some kind of intermediate " apprentice " pass available for just-starters .
If they get a positive follow-up from an event organizer X number of times , they could " graduate " to a full pass .
If they 're not grabbers or bullshit artists , then they would n't mind giving a real URL and a real name for contact purposes.Just a thought and my 2c .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have mixed feelings about this.
I was a freelance business writer during the end of the DotCom boom.
I actually did have some published pieces, and because of that, I didn't have too hard a problem getting into MOST industry events (where I was professional and actually working).However, those same tech events were even then littered with "faux press" already--guys who showed up with huge empty duffel bags for the sole purpose of hoarding all of the free crap that they could grab, like T-shirts, software samples, etc.
It made it almost impossible to get a legit review copy of anything, be it a book or a software title, if you got there past the first open hour, because the grabbers had already been through.There was a whole sub-tribe of folks who I ran into for years who did nothing at trade shows and industry events other than get drunk, eat as much food as possible in the press room, and take as much free crap as they could carry.ON THE OTHER HAND.....I know lots of very good and legit bloggers and photgraphers who were shut out of events precisely due to lack of previous "paper" published work or byline in-hand.
It seemed very arbitrary.The grabbers always made it in, but a lot of honest folks trying to make a start for themselves got shut out.I don't know what the legality of a two-tier press pass system would be, but it would be nice if there was some kind of intermediate "apprentice" pass available for just-starters.
If they get a positive follow-up from an event organizer X number of times, they could "graduate" to a full pass.
If they're not grabbers or bullshit artists, then they wouldn't mind giving a real URL and a real name for contact purposes.Just a thought and my 2c.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347872</id>
	<title>Bloggers for Satan.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"... the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do, and <b>not the organization they write for."</b></p> </div><p> <i>"Hi, John Doe here, reporting live on behalf of the Satanic Blog Network..."</i> </p><p>Yes, this was my poor attempt at humor, but seriously, you just might want to know who the blogger <b>really</b> represents before finding out they were hired by the "wrong" people to spread mis-information, especially when the vehicles of information these days(FB, blogs, twitter) are damn near real-time.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ... the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do , and not the organization they write for .
" " Hi , John Doe here , reporting live on behalf of the Satanic Blog Network... " Yes , this was my poor attempt at humor , but seriously , you just might want to know who the blogger really represents before finding out they were hired by the " wrong " people to spread mis-information , especially when the vehicles of information these days ( FB , blogs , twitter ) are damn near real-time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"... the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do, and not the organization they write for.
"  "Hi, John Doe here, reporting live on behalf of the Satanic Blog Network..." Yes, this was my poor attempt at humor, but seriously, you just might want to know who the blogger really represents before finding out they were hired by the "wrong" people to spread mis-information, especially when the vehicles of information these days(FB, blogs, twitter) are damn near real-time.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349390</id>
	<title>Not Unreasonable</title>
	<author>jayme0227</author>
	<datestamp>1267649280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One of the sports blogs that I regularly read, which will remain unmentioned for fear of the Slashdot effect, actually convinced the NFL to give him a press pass to the NFL Scouting Combine. Since I started reading his blog in '08, the writer has ingratiated himself with the local* beat guys, get an article published in the New York Times, and built a rapport with members of the national sports media and NFL Players. When it counts, he puts in just as much work as the beat writers and his analysis is often a step ahead of theirs, even with less access. I have absolutely no problem with giving him a press pass.</p><p>Nate Silver, from fivethirtyeight.com, also provides excellent political commentary. His primary work is with polls, and we was able to correctly predict 49 of the 50 states in the 2008 presidential election. He has also contributed to ESPN, Slate, Sports Illustrated, The New York Times, and the New York Sun. Again, I hardly have an issue with him receiving a press pass.</p><p>As stated in the article, there are requirements in place for attaining a press pass. I'm sure this will be a work in progress, but opening up the news reporting mechanism in this country can hardly be a bad thing.</p><p>*He lives in New York, but covers the Green Bay(Wisconsin) Packers. He gets regular commentary from writers in Green Bay and Milwaukee, the two largest markets that cover the team.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One of the sports blogs that I regularly read , which will remain unmentioned for fear of the Slashdot effect , actually convinced the NFL to give him a press pass to the NFL Scouting Combine .
Since I started reading his blog in '08 , the writer has ingratiated himself with the local * beat guys , get an article published in the New York Times , and built a rapport with members of the national sports media and NFL Players .
When it counts , he puts in just as much work as the beat writers and his analysis is often a step ahead of theirs , even with less access .
I have absolutely no problem with giving him a press pass.Nate Silver , from fivethirtyeight.com , also provides excellent political commentary .
His primary work is with polls , and we was able to correctly predict 49 of the 50 states in the 2008 presidential election .
He has also contributed to ESPN , Slate , Sports Illustrated , The New York Times , and the New York Sun .
Again , I hardly have an issue with him receiving a press pass.As stated in the article , there are requirements in place for attaining a press pass .
I 'm sure this will be a work in progress , but opening up the news reporting mechanism in this country can hardly be a bad thing .
* He lives in New York , but covers the Green Bay ( Wisconsin ) Packers .
He gets regular commentary from writers in Green Bay and Milwaukee , the two largest markets that cover the team .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of the sports blogs that I regularly read, which will remain unmentioned for fear of the Slashdot effect, actually convinced the NFL to give him a press pass to the NFL Scouting Combine.
Since I started reading his blog in '08, the writer has ingratiated himself with the local* beat guys, get an article published in the New York Times, and built a rapport with members of the national sports media and NFL Players.
When it counts, he puts in just as much work as the beat writers and his analysis is often a step ahead of theirs, even with less access.
I have absolutely no problem with giving him a press pass.Nate Silver, from fivethirtyeight.com, also provides excellent political commentary.
His primary work is with polls, and we was able to correctly predict 49 of the 50 states in the 2008 presidential election.
He has also contributed to ESPN, Slate, Sports Illustrated, The New York Times, and the New York Sun.
Again, I hardly have an issue with him receiving a press pass.As stated in the article, there are requirements in place for attaining a press pass.
I'm sure this will be a work in progress, but opening up the news reporting mechanism in this country can hardly be a bad thing.
*He lives in New York, but covers the Green Bay(Wisconsin) Packers.
He gets regular commentary from writers in Green Bay and Milwaukee, the two largest markets that cover the team.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31357184</id>
	<title>Accountability? Training?</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1267713240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the only qualification for being a journalist is "having an email address", where do we get accountability?  Real journalists take classes on ethics and have an employer who can fire them.  It's easier to blackball a journalist out of the field than it is to prevent a blogger from posting.</p><p>i dislike the idea if bloggers as journalists more than i dislike people writing in a professional capacity and calling it blogging.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the only qualification for being a journalist is " having an email address " , where do we get accountability ?
Real journalists take classes on ethics and have an employer who can fire them .
It 's easier to blackball a journalist out of the field than it is to prevent a blogger from posting.i dislike the idea if bloggers as journalists more than i dislike people writing in a professional capacity and calling it blogging .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the only qualification for being a journalist is "having an email address", where do we get accountability?
Real journalists take classes on ethics and have an employer who can fire them.
It's easier to blackball a journalist out of the field than it is to prevent a blogger from posting.i dislike the idea if bloggers as journalists more than i dislike people writing in a professional capacity and calling it blogging.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31352038</id>
	<title>Good opportunity</title>
	<author>fyrewulff</author>
	<datestamp>1267618500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For existing press people to start teaching training classes on how to approach the scene, safety, etc</htmltext>
<tokenext>For existing press people to start teaching training classes on how to approach the scene , safety , etc</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For existing press people to start teaching training classes on how to approach the scene, safety, etc</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348158</id>
	<title>Re:Start with the journalists who were laid off...</title>
	<author>religious freak</author>
	<datestamp>1267643220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I agree.  Instantaneous transmittal of info is one of the forces which are causing investigative journalism to come under severe stress, it should be one of the forces which can help it survive and reinvest itself.  The NYT or CNN should not have to maintain expensive bureaus all over the world.  Local citizen journalists, properly vetted and experienced, can serve that function for multiple news agencies.  <br> <br>
Independent contracting is the future for journalism.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree .
Instantaneous transmittal of info is one of the forces which are causing investigative journalism to come under severe stress , it should be one of the forces which can help it survive and reinvest itself .
The NYT or CNN should not have to maintain expensive bureaus all over the world .
Local citizen journalists , properly vetted and experienced , can serve that function for multiple news agencies .
Independent contracting is the future for journalism .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree.
Instantaneous transmittal of info is one of the forces which are causing investigative journalism to come under severe stress, it should be one of the forces which can help it survive and reinvest itself.
The NYT or CNN should not have to maintain expensive bureaus all over the world.
Local citizen journalists, properly vetted and experienced, can serve that function for multiple news agencies.
Independent contracting is the future for journalism.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347728</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348892</id>
	<title>Re:great, thanks a lot</title>
	<author>Grimbleton</author>
	<datestamp>1267646880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm sorry, you're special because....?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , you 're special because.... ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, you're special because....?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348896</id>
	<title>What a great idea!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267646880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lets throw out the vetting process and let any douche bag who can go to an Internet cafe and login to blogspot have a press pass, great idea.</p><p>Why not just make it so a press pass costs $5 and anyone can buy one<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I mean, thats what you've done anyway.</p><p>No, traditional media isn't perfect and bias free, but regardless of all the political bullshit out there, I still have far more faith that I'm going to be able to filter out the bullshit from traditional media far easier than figuring out the agenda of some random blogger who's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets throw out the vetting process and let any douche bag who can go to an Internet cafe and login to blogspot have a press pass , great idea.Why not just make it so a press pass costs $ 5 and anyone can buy one ... I mean , thats what you 've done anyway.No , traditional media is n't perfect and bias free , but regardless of all the political bullshit out there , I still have far more faith that I 'm going to be able to filter out the bullshit from traditional media far easier than figuring out the agenda of some random blogger who 's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets throw out the vetting process and let any douche bag who can go to an Internet cafe and login to blogspot have a press pass, great idea.Why not just make it so a press pass costs $5 and anyone can buy one ... I mean, thats what you've done anyway.No, traditional media isn't perfect and bias free, but regardless of all the political bullshit out there, I still have far more faith that I'm going to be able to filter out the bullshit from traditional media far easier than figuring out the agenda of some random blogger who's never been seen by more than 5 people before in is life.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31355470</id>
	<title>This could make for a fun visit to NYC</title>
	<author>Eightbitgnosis</author>
	<datestamp>1267735980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now that I've been endowed with the entirely necessary indiscriminate press pass for my work in blogging old cartoons; I suddenly feel it's my civic duty to attend every single event I can with my new press credentials before someone eventually takes them away</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now that I 've been endowed with the entirely necessary indiscriminate press pass for my work in blogging old cartoons ; I suddenly feel it 's my civic duty to attend every single event I can with my new press credentials before someone eventually takes them away</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now that I've been endowed with the entirely necessary indiscriminate press pass for my work in blogging old cartoons; I suddenly feel it's my civic duty to attend every single event I can with my new press credentials before someone eventually takes them away</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349704</id>
	<title>Re:I write for Slashdot</title>
	<author>SatanicPuppy</author>
	<datestamp>1267607580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So? If someone was willing to pay you to do it, would something change?</p><p>That's all "journalism" is. People mystify this crap like it's some kind of secret fraternity, with secret rules.</p><p>Here's how it works. First, you write/video a bunch of shit.</p><p>Then you go to a media outlet, and say, "Here is my shit. If you like it, I can produce shit like this for you."</p><p>If they like it they say, "We like your shit. Go out and produce shit RIGHT NOW, so we can see what your shit looks like when you don't have time to prepare." If they like the shit you produce under pressure, you'll be hired and be an official journalist.</p><p>That's it. That's the whole thing. Now, to work for some big outlet, they'll expect you to have worked somewhere smaller and produced good shit while you worked there. But that's about the only barrier to entry. I know a guy who went from a paper that had circulation smaller than my college paper to one of the top 5 papers in the country in less than 5 years, all because people liked his shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So ?
If someone was willing to pay you to do it , would something change ? That 's all " journalism " is .
People mystify this crap like it 's some kind of secret fraternity , with secret rules.Here 's how it works .
First , you write/video a bunch of shit.Then you go to a media outlet , and say , " Here is my shit .
If you like it , I can produce shit like this for you .
" If they like it they say , " We like your shit .
Go out and produce shit RIGHT NOW , so we can see what your shit looks like when you do n't have time to prepare .
" If they like the shit you produce under pressure , you 'll be hired and be an official journalist.That 's it .
That 's the whole thing .
Now , to work for some big outlet , they 'll expect you to have worked somewhere smaller and produced good shit while you worked there .
But that 's about the only barrier to entry .
I know a guy who went from a paper that had circulation smaller than my college paper to one of the top 5 papers in the country in less than 5 years , all because people liked his shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So?
If someone was willing to pay you to do it, would something change?That's all "journalism" is.
People mystify this crap like it's some kind of secret fraternity, with secret rules.Here's how it works.
First, you write/video a bunch of shit.Then you go to a media outlet, and say, "Here is my shit.
If you like it, I can produce shit like this for you.
"If they like it they say, "We like your shit.
Go out and produce shit RIGHT NOW, so we can see what your shit looks like when you don't have time to prepare.
" If they like the shit you produce under pressure, you'll be hired and be an official journalist.That's it.
That's the whole thing.
Now, to work for some big outlet, they'll expect you to have worked somewhere smaller and produced good shit while you worked there.
But that's about the only barrier to entry.
I know a guy who went from a paper that had circulation smaller than my college paper to one of the top 5 papers in the country in less than 5 years, all because people liked his shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347738</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348194</id>
	<title>Finally.</title>
	<author>ScentCone</author>
	<datestamp>1267643460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's been missing from the coverage the David Patterson press conferences has been the shrewd, insightful experience and reportage from the <i>OMG ponies!</i> perspective. The mainstream media has been suppressing that important voice since, like, for<i>ever</i>. Mean people suck! Also, that young guy Aaron on America Idol - he would <i>so</i> make a great sparkly vampire someday.</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's been missing from the coverage the David Patterson press conferences has been the shrewd , insightful experience and reportage from the OMG ponies !
perspective. The mainstream media has been suppressing that important voice since , like , forever .
Mean people suck !
Also , that young guy Aaron on America Idol - he would so make a great sparkly vampire someday .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's been missing from the coverage the David Patterson press conferences has been the shrewd, insightful experience and reportage from the OMG ponies!
perspective. The mainstream media has been suppressing that important voice since, like, forever.
Mean people suck!
Also, that young guy Aaron on America Idol - he would so make a great sparkly vampire someday.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348788</id>
	<title>Re:I write for Slashdot</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1267646280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It incited you to post, didn't it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>It incited you to post , did n't it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It incited you to post, didn't it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347860</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349444</id>
	<title>Re:I write for Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267649580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>my work...is like dust in the wind, dude.</p></div><p>
I was a little disturbed by the lack of cars in his post though.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>my work...is like dust in the wind , dude .
I was a little disturbed by the lack of cars in his post though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>my work...is like dust in the wind, dude.
I was a little disturbed by the lack of cars in his post though.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348034</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348520</id>
	<title>Re:Finally.</title>
	<author>Shotgun</author>
	<datestamp>1267644900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Luckily, we had the <i>OMG ponies!</i> guys running all of the debates during the last US Presidential election cycle.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Luckily , we had the OMG ponies !
guys running all of the debates during the last US Presidential election cycle .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Luckily, we had the OMG ponies!
guys running all of the debates during the last US Presidential election cycle.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348194</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347844</id>
	<title>Re:I write for Slashdot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual, interesting, engaging, <b>inciteful</b>, and sometimes funny, my work</p></div><p>I like that one!  I think that some journalist do put "inciting people" ahead of "giving people insight".  So, perhaps you can be an incite-ful journalist and work for Fox News or something.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual , interesting , engaging , inciteful , and sometimes funny , my workI like that one !
I think that some journalist do put " inciting people " ahead of " giving people insight " .
So , perhaps you can be an incite-ful journalist and work for Fox News or something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Despite the time and effort I put into making sure my posts are factual, interesting, engaging, inciteful, and sometimes funny, my workI like that one!
I think that some journalist do put "inciting people" ahead of "giving people insight".
So, perhaps you can be an incite-ful journalist and work for Fox News or something.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347738</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347690</id>
	<title>Which</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267640880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... has made the press pass obsolete.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... has made the press pass obsolete .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... has made the press pass obsolete.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31348996</id>
	<title>Re:great, thanks a lot</title>
	<author>interkin3tic</author>
	<datestamp>1267647360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>as a photographer who makes part of my income with press/arts photography, im not looking forward to this. It just means more morons crowding events and creating problems for the rest of us. Yeah, im real happy you write/shoot for some blog with 5 people who read it.</p></div><p>I too wish there was less competition... er uh... morons crowding events in my field of biological research.  Yes, I'm really happy about having to be competitive.  It would be so much easier if they would start issuing "scientist licenses" which were very difficult to get so I would have less competition and more time to procrastinate without worrying someone else will scoop me.  Ooh, and with less competition, I bet demand would be higher for me and I'd get more money.</p><p>Man, this really does suck for you AC.  Now you'll have to actually, you know, be competitive at your job.  I feel so bad for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>as a photographer who makes part of my income with press/arts photography , im not looking forward to this .
It just means more morons crowding events and creating problems for the rest of us .
Yeah , im real happy you write/shoot for some blog with 5 people who read it.I too wish there was less competition... er uh... morons crowding events in my field of biological research .
Yes , I 'm really happy about having to be competitive .
It would be so much easier if they would start issuing " scientist licenses " which were very difficult to get so I would have less competition and more time to procrastinate without worrying someone else will scoop me .
Ooh , and with less competition , I bet demand would be higher for me and I 'd get more money.Man , this really does suck for you AC .
Now you 'll have to actually , you know , be competitive at your job .
I feel so bad for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as a photographer who makes part of my income with press/arts photography, im not looking forward to this.
It just means more morons crowding events and creating problems for the rest of us.
Yeah, im real happy you write/shoot for some blog with 5 people who read it.I too wish there was less competition... er uh... morons crowding events in my field of biological research.
Yes, I'm really happy about having to be competitive.
It would be so much easier if they would start issuing "scientist licenses" which were very difficult to get so I would have less competition and more time to procrastinate without worrying someone else will scoop me.
Ooh, and with less competition, I bet demand would be higher for me and I'd get more money.Man, this really does suck for you AC.
Now you'll have to actually, you know, be competitive at your job.
I feel so bad for you.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31353220</id>
	<title>I think this is great</title>
	<author>chewthreetimes</author>
	<datestamp>1267626360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Traditional print hasn't figured out how to stay competitive in the new world and is reducing quality of reporting by reducing to a skeleton staff. Might as well remove the barriers and allow the alternative media equal footing. Sure there are a lot of schmucks with blogs, but there are also a lot of knowledgeable and passionate folks out there who write blogs.

Sure the wrinkles still need to be worked out, as in, what, if any, should the qualifications be for bloggers. Should it be based on readership? Past output? Who makes that decision? This stuff can be ironed out over time as problems present themselves. But you have to start somewhere.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Traditional print has n't figured out how to stay competitive in the new world and is reducing quality of reporting by reducing to a skeleton staff .
Might as well remove the barriers and allow the alternative media equal footing .
Sure there are a lot of schmucks with blogs , but there are also a lot of knowledgeable and passionate folks out there who write blogs .
Sure the wrinkles still need to be worked out , as in , what , if any , should the qualifications be for bloggers .
Should it be based on readership ?
Past output ?
Who makes that decision ?
This stuff can be ironed out over time as problems present themselves .
But you have to start somewhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Traditional print hasn't figured out how to stay competitive in the new world and is reducing quality of reporting by reducing to a skeleton staff.
Might as well remove the barriers and allow the alternative media equal footing.
Sure there are a lot of schmucks with blogs, but there are also a lot of knowledgeable and passionate folks out there who write blogs.
Sure the wrinkles still need to be worked out, as in, what, if any, should the qualifications be for bloggers.
Should it be based on readership?
Past output?
Who makes that decision?
This stuff can be ironed out over time as problems present themselves.
But you have to start somewhere.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347718</id>
	<title>great, thanks a lot</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>as a photographer who makes part of my income with press/arts photography, im not looking forward to this. It just means more morons crowding events and creating problems for the rest of us. Yeah, im real happy you write/shoot for some blog with 5 people who read it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>as a photographer who makes part of my income with press/arts photography , im not looking forward to this .
It just means more morons crowding events and creating problems for the rest of us .
Yeah , im real happy you write/shoot for some blog with 5 people who read it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>as a photographer who makes part of my income with press/arts photography, im not looking forward to this.
It just means more morons crowding events and creating problems for the rest of us.
Yeah, im real happy you write/shoot for some blog with 5 people who read it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349064</id>
	<title>Look at the work they do</title>
	<author>SEWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1267647660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do, and not the organization they write for.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
OK, that will get the New York Times out of the way of real reporters.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do , and not the organization they write for .
OK , that will get the New York Times out of the way of real reporters .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the city will now decide who a journalist is by looking at the type of work they do, and not the organization they write for.
OK, that will get the New York Times out of the way of real reporters.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347902</id>
	<title>Hey guys, I'm from the internet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267642020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And here to bring you the news.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And here to bring you the news .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And here to bring you the news.
:P</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347708</id>
	<title>I have a pass</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for a first post!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for a first post !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for a first post!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349536</id>
	<title>Re:Mixed feelings.</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1267606800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm not worried so much about terrorists as 'journalist flash mobs' where every Tom, Dick, and Harriet with a blog and a press pass* tries to crash the police lines at an active crime scene, or a major emergency (fire, steam pipe rupture, or whatever), or major 'social' event...  Whether for the purpose of actual news reporting or with other, less than noble, intentions.  Blogging tends to be much more 'look at me, look at me, look at me' than it does about reporting, and the potential for abuse and problems under the new standards abounds.</p><p>Crown control for the NYPD, FDNY, and other city enforcement authorities just got <i>much</i> harder.  This is a victory for free speech and free press, but I suspect common sense may have just taken a thrashing.</p><p>* If you read TFA, the bar for obtaining and maintaining credentials seems awfully low.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm not worried so much about terrorists as 'journalist flash mobs ' where every Tom , Dick , and Harriet with a blog and a press pass * tries to crash the police lines at an active crime scene , or a major emergency ( fire , steam pipe rupture , or whatever ) , or major 'social ' event... Whether for the purpose of actual news reporting or with other , less than noble , intentions .
Blogging tends to be much more 'look at me , look at me , look at me ' than it does about reporting , and the potential for abuse and problems under the new standards abounds.Crown control for the NYPD , FDNY , and other city enforcement authorities just got much harder .
This is a victory for free speech and free press , but I suspect common sense may have just taken a thrashing .
* If you read TFA , the bar for obtaining and maintaining credentials seems awfully low .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm not worried so much about terrorists as 'journalist flash mobs' where every Tom, Dick, and Harriet with a blog and a press pass* tries to crash the police lines at an active crime scene, or a major emergency (fire, steam pipe rupture, or whatever), or major 'social' event...  Whether for the purpose of actual news reporting or with other, less than noble, intentions.
Blogging tends to be much more 'look at me, look at me, look at me' than it does about reporting, and the potential for abuse and problems under the new standards abounds.Crown control for the NYPD, FDNY, and other city enforcement authorities just got much harder.
This is a victory for free speech and free press, but I suspect common sense may have just taken a thrashing.
* If you read TFA, the bar for obtaining and maintaining credentials seems awfully low.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31349030</id>
	<title>Re:Mixed feelings.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267647540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've never liked the idea of press passes, because they perpetuate the idea that there is some elite class of people called "the press", and that "freedom of the press" applies just to them. But freedom of the press, just like freedom of speech, is a right everyone has--and always was.<br>If you want to make special arrangements with certain groups and individuals to grant them access to your private property for reporting purposes, that's your business. But I don't like the idea that certain people be given exclusive access to <i>government</i> events because they have more freedom to write and report than the rest of us.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've never liked the idea of press passes , because they perpetuate the idea that there is some elite class of people called " the press " , and that " freedom of the press " applies just to them .
But freedom of the press , just like freedom of speech , is a right everyone has--and always was.If you want to make special arrangements with certain groups and individuals to grant them access to your private property for reporting purposes , that 's your business .
But I do n't like the idea that certain people be given exclusive access to government events because they have more freedom to write and report than the rest of us .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've never liked the idea of press passes, because they perpetuate the idea that there is some elite class of people called "the press", and that "freedom of the press" applies just to them.
But freedom of the press, just like freedom of speech, is a right everyone has--and always was.If you want to make special arrangements with certain groups and individuals to grant them access to your private property for reporting purposes, that's your business.
But I don't like the idea that certain people be given exclusive access to government events because they have more freedom to write and report than the rest of us.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347732</id>
	<title>Bloggers don't report news</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They editorialize.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They editorialize .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They editorialize.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1622223.31347940</id>
	<title>Re:Start with the journalists who were laid off...</title>
	<author>2obvious4u</author>
	<datestamp>1267642260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dear God did you really use their branded iReport.  Can't there be professional freelance reporters?  Do they really need to call their reports by the generic CNN iReport, isn't that kind of iTerm overused?  How about I'm a regular contributor to CNN, they pay my bills as a free lance contractor, I also sub my articles out to the AP and other news organizations.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear God did you really use their branded iReport .
Ca n't there be professional freelance reporters ?
Do they really need to call their reports by the generic CNN iReport , is n't that kind of iTerm overused ?
How about I 'm a regular contributor to CNN , they pay my bills as a free lance contractor , I also sub my articles out to the AP and other news organizations .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear God did you really use their branded iReport.
Can't there be professional freelance reporters?
Do they really need to call their reports by the generic CNN iReport, isn't that kind of iTerm overused?
How about I'm a regular contributor to CNN, they pay my bills as a free lance contractor, I also sub my articles out to the AP and other news organizations.</sentencetext>
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