<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_03_03_1550212</id>
	<title>Man Swallows USB Flash Drive Evidence</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1267634220000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>SlideRuleGuy writes <i>"In a bold and bizarre attempt to destroy evidence seized during a federal raid, a New York City man grabbed a flash drive and <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0302101flash1.html">swallowed the data storage device</a> while in the custody of Secret Service agents. Records show Florin Necula ingested the Kingston flash drive shortly after his January 21 arrest outside a bank in Queens. A Kingston executive said it was unclear if stomach acid could damage one of their drives. 'As you might imagine, we have no actual experience with someone swallowing a USB.' I imagine that would be rather painful.  But did he follow his mother's advice and chew thoroughly, first?  Apparently not, as the drive was surgically recovered."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>SlideRuleGuy writes " In a bold and bizarre attempt to destroy evidence seized during a federal raid , a New York City man grabbed a flash drive and swallowed the data storage device while in the custody of Secret Service agents .
Records show Florin Necula ingested the Kingston flash drive shortly after his January 21 arrest outside a bank in Queens .
A Kingston executive said it was unclear if stomach acid could damage one of their drives .
'As you might imagine , we have no actual experience with someone swallowing a USB .
' I imagine that would be rather painful .
But did he follow his mother 's advice and chew thoroughly , first ?
Apparently not , as the drive was surgically recovered .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SlideRuleGuy writes "In a bold and bizarre attempt to destroy evidence seized during a federal raid, a New York City man grabbed a flash drive and swallowed the data storage device while in the custody of Secret Service agents.
Records show Florin Necula ingested the Kingston flash drive shortly after his January 21 arrest outside a bank in Queens.
A Kingston executive said it was unclear if stomach acid could damage one of their drives.
'As you might imagine, we have no actual experience with someone swallowing a USB.
' I imagine that would be rather painful.
But did he follow his mother's advice and chew thoroughly, first?
Apparently not, as the drive was surgically recovered.
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348528</id>
	<title>Re:Swallowing is your WORST option to erase eviden</title>
	<author>uncledrax</author>
	<datestamp>1267644900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've machine washed and dried (accidentally of course) several Sandisk Cruzers, and all functioned perfectly well afterwards. (Yes, I'm comparing agitation in water and tumble dry to throwing it into the street)</p><p>I'd say <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo33YplsJlo" title="youtube.com">bring a hammer</a> [youtube.com] and just smash it to bits.. even if by throwing it on the street you'd managed to crack the PCB or destroy the USB interface itself, you'd still likely have the actual storage chip intact and readable via other mechanisms. You'd want to smash item #4 in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usbkey\_internals.jpg" title="wikipedia.org">this reference image</a> [wikipedia.org] to dust.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've machine washed and dried ( accidentally of course ) several Sandisk Cruzers , and all functioned perfectly well afterwards .
( Yes , I 'm comparing agitation in water and tumble dry to throwing it into the street ) I 'd say bring a hammer [ youtube.com ] and just smash it to bits.. even if by throwing it on the street you 'd managed to crack the PCB or destroy the USB interface itself , you 'd still likely have the actual storage chip intact and readable via other mechanisms .
You 'd want to smash item # 4 in this reference image [ wikipedia.org ] to dust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've machine washed and dried (accidentally of course) several Sandisk Cruzers, and all functioned perfectly well afterwards.
(Yes, I'm comparing agitation in water and tumble dry to throwing it into the street)I'd say bring a hammer [youtube.com] and just smash it to bits.. even if by throwing it on the street you'd managed to crack the PCB or destroy the USB interface itself, you'd still likely have the actual storage chip intact and readable via other mechanisms.
You'd want to smash item #4 in this reference image [wikipedia.org] to dust.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347518</id>
	<title>Memo to my evil twin Skippy</title>
	<author>davidwr</author>
	<datestamp>1267640040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Don't forget to use bio-compatible storage devices next time you commit a computer crime, and make sure they dissolve quickly in stomach acid.</p><p>--</p><p>Seriously, anyone who records criminal information on a computer without using "unbreakable" encryption* should understand the risks.</p><p>*Unbreakable would include a one-time pad where the pad is for practical purposes not available to the police.  Absent quantum computing or something similar, it also includes strong encryption where the key cannot be recovered with less than brute-force methods and with a key strength sufficient to make a brute-force attack impractical.  Of course, with quantum computing "right around the corner" and most serious-crime statutes of limitations being on the order of 5-7 years, don't be surprised if your "unbreakable" encryption gets broken before the statute of limitations expires.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget to use bio-compatible storage devices next time you commit a computer crime , and make sure they dissolve quickly in stomach acid.--Seriously , anyone who records criminal information on a computer without using " unbreakable " encryption * should understand the risks .
* Unbreakable would include a one-time pad where the pad is for practical purposes not available to the police .
Absent quantum computing or something similar , it also includes strong encryption where the key can not be recovered with less than brute-force methods and with a key strength sufficient to make a brute-force attack impractical .
Of course , with quantum computing " right around the corner " and most serious-crime statutes of limitations being on the order of 5-7 years , do n't be surprised if your " unbreakable " encryption gets broken before the statute of limitations expires .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget to use bio-compatible storage devices next time you commit a computer crime, and make sure they dissolve quickly in stomach acid.--Seriously, anyone who records criminal information on a computer without using "unbreakable" encryption* should understand the risks.
*Unbreakable would include a one-time pad where the pad is for practical purposes not available to the police.
Absent quantum computing or something similar, it also includes strong encryption where the key cannot be recovered with less than brute-force methods and with a key strength sufficient to make a brute-force attack impractical.
Of course, with quantum computing "right around the corner" and most serious-crime statutes of limitations being on the order of 5-7 years, don't be surprised if your "unbreakable" encryption gets broken before the statute of limitations expires.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31346990</id>
	<title>Next time...</title>
	<author>MachDelta</author>
	<datestamp>1267638000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Next time, dude should use a microSD card.</p><p>And maybe some mayo. Blegh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Next time , dude should use a microSD card.And maybe some mayo .
Blegh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Next time, dude should use a microSD card.And maybe some mayo.
Blegh.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347296</id>
	<title>There may have been another reason</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267639200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>He could have just been hungry..</p><p>http://www.dynamism.com/accessories/usb\_sushi.shtml</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>He could have just been hungry..http : //www.dynamism.com/accessories/usb \ _sushi.shtml</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He could have just been hungry..http://www.dynamism.com/accessories/usb\_sushi.shtml</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347366</id>
	<title>Could be worse</title>
	<author>Merenth</author>
	<datestamp>1267639440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm just glad we never got raided when I was storing data on the Vax 6000 tape drives.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm just glad we never got raided when I was storing data on the Vax 6000 tape drives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm just glad we never got raided when I was storing data on the Vax 6000 tape drives.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347858</id>
	<title>I would volunteer for the research</title>
	<author>Taibhsear</author>
	<datestamp>1267641840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I work in a chem lab. I would be willing to volunteer time, expertise, and chemicals to test the effects of sulfuric acid at varying concentrations if someone would be willing to donate several Kingston USB drives to test on. Load em up with media and programs, soak in varying concentrations of the acid, clean with distilled water, let dry, attempt to access data. I would imagine the issue would be a matter of liquid tightness of the seals, the chemical makeup of the plastics and metals used in the flash drives, and if/how the bits retain their state on the drive (I don't know much about the way data is stored in the drives. Non-volatile I would imagine as the drives don't have power supplies.).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I work in a chem lab .
I would be willing to volunteer time , expertise , and chemicals to test the effects of sulfuric acid at varying concentrations if someone would be willing to donate several Kingston USB drives to test on .
Load em up with media and programs , soak in varying concentrations of the acid , clean with distilled water , let dry , attempt to access data .
I would imagine the issue would be a matter of liquid tightness of the seals , the chemical makeup of the plastics and metals used in the flash drives , and if/how the bits retain their state on the drive ( I do n't know much about the way data is stored in the drives .
Non-volatile I would imagine as the drives do n't have power supplies .
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I work in a chem lab.
I would be willing to volunteer time, expertise, and chemicals to test the effects of sulfuric acid at varying concentrations if someone would be willing to donate several Kingston USB drives to test on.
Load em up with media and programs, soak in varying concentrations of the acid, clean with distilled water, let dry, attempt to access data.
I would imagine the issue would be a matter of liquid tightness of the seals, the chemical makeup of the plastics and metals used in the flash drives, and if/how the bits retain their state on the drive (I don't know much about the way data is stored in the drives.
Non-volatile I would imagine as the drives don't have power supplies.
).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348484</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>egcagrac0</author>
	<datestamp>1267644780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation\_in\_Zimbabwe" title="wikipedia.org">That could never amount to anything significant!</a> [wikipedia.org] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That could never amount to anything significant !
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> That could never amount to anything significant!
[wikipedia.org] </sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347588</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347426</id>
	<title>new type of USB Drive</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267639620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Favored USB Drives, will destroy all data with contact to stomach acid.   Available now in FBI Mint, Police Cherry, and CIA Arsenic.<br>Get yours now!!!   *WARNING NOT FOR CONSUMPTION*</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Favored USB Drives , will destroy all data with contact to stomach acid .
Available now in FBI Mint , Police Cherry , and CIA Arsenic.Get yours now ! ! !
* WARNING NOT FOR CONSUMPTION *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Favored USB Drives, will destroy all data with contact to stomach acid.
Available now in FBI Mint, Police Cherry, and CIA Arsenic.Get yours now!!!
*WARNING NOT FOR CONSUMPTION*</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347762</id>
	<title>Hmmm. Might be some kind of record.</title>
	<author>hey!</author>
	<datestamp>1267641300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember the old days when spies would swallow their instructions, written on paper (hopefully they had the foresight to use rice paper)?</p><p>I wonder whether this event might qualify for the largest documented quantity of artificially encoded information (as opposed to naturally encoded information like in DNA) ever ingested.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember the old days when spies would swallow their instructions , written on paper ( hopefully they had the foresight to use rice paper ) ? I wonder whether this event might qualify for the largest documented quantity of artificially encoded information ( as opposed to naturally encoded information like in DNA ) ever ingested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember the old days when spies would swallow their instructions, written on paper (hopefully they had the foresight to use rice paper)?I wonder whether this event might qualify for the largest documented quantity of artificially encoded information (as opposed to naturally encoded information like in DNA) ever ingested.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348106</id>
	<title>Would you want to retrieve it?</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1267642980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you want to be the guy having to retrieve it from the other end?
</p><p>And this btw is the real life proof of the crypto-nerds fantasy being just that, a fantasy.
</p><p>Crypto-nerd: Ooh I encrypted this file with a secret password that they can't break with a thousand super-computers.
</p><p>Secret service: Hit him with this stick until he tells everything. If he doesn't, well that proves he was an highly trained enemy agent.
</p><p>And WAY to give the game away. Now they know exactly where to look and that there is something to look for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you want to be the guy having to retrieve it from the other end ?
And this btw is the real life proof of the crypto-nerds fantasy being just that , a fantasy .
Crypto-nerd : Ooh I encrypted this file with a secret password that they ca n't break with a thousand super-computers .
Secret service : Hit him with this stick until he tells everything .
If he does n't , well that proves he was an highly trained enemy agent .
And WAY to give the game away .
Now they know exactly where to look and that there is something to look for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you want to be the guy having to retrieve it from the other end?
And this btw is the real life proof of the crypto-nerds fantasy being just that, a fantasy.
Crypto-nerd: Ooh I encrypted this file with a secret password that they can't break with a thousand super-computers.
Secret service: Hit him with this stick until he tells everything.
If he doesn't, well that proves he was an highly trained enemy agent.
And WAY to give the game away.
Now they know exactly where to look and that there is something to look for.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347014</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347588</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>fusiongyro</author>
	<datestamp>1267640400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sure it does. Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency. If you have some amount of value or wealth in your country in terms of goods and land, and suddenly there's twice as much money in circulation, everything would suddenly have to cost twice as much for the same amount of value to be exchanged. In essence, by introducing twice as much money into circulation, the money printer has just stolen half the wealth from all users of the currency. The same thing happens for trivial amounts of money, the effect just isn't as pronounced. The first time it's used the money has the same value as it used to. So the effect is especially nasty because it takes a while to materialize.</p><p>I actually knew someone whose job was to negotiate with dictators in African countries to trade $1M for some large quantity of newly printed money in the local currency. He'd then take that money and spend it on as much stuff as he could, take it to America and sell it at a profit. The dictator is happy to have a big pile of almost universally accepted US currency and doesn't understand (or care about) economics well enough to understand that he's just helped someone steal both goods and the intangible value of his country's currency.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sure it does .
Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency .
If you have some amount of value or wealth in your country in terms of goods and land , and suddenly there 's twice as much money in circulation , everything would suddenly have to cost twice as much for the same amount of value to be exchanged .
In essence , by introducing twice as much money into circulation , the money printer has just stolen half the wealth from all users of the currency .
The same thing happens for trivial amounts of money , the effect just is n't as pronounced .
The first time it 's used the money has the same value as it used to .
So the effect is especially nasty because it takes a while to materialize.I actually knew someone whose job was to negotiate with dictators in African countries to trade $ 1M for some large quantity of newly printed money in the local currency .
He 'd then take that money and spend it on as much stuff as he could , take it to America and sell it at a profit .
The dictator is happy to have a big pile of almost universally accepted US currency and does n't understand ( or care about ) economics well enough to understand that he 's just helped someone steal both goods and the intangible value of his country 's currency .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sure it does.
Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency.
If you have some amount of value or wealth in your country in terms of goods and land, and suddenly there's twice as much money in circulation, everything would suddenly have to cost twice as much for the same amount of value to be exchanged.
In essence, by introducing twice as much money into circulation, the money printer has just stolen half the wealth from all users of the currency.
The same thing happens for trivial amounts of money, the effect just isn't as pronounced.
The first time it's used the money has the same value as it used to.
So the effect is especially nasty because it takes a while to materialize.I actually knew someone whose job was to negotiate with dictators in African countries to trade $1M for some large quantity of newly printed money in the local currency.
He'd then take that money and spend it on as much stuff as he could, take it to America and sell it at a profit.
The dictator is happy to have a big pile of almost universally accepted US currency and doesn't understand (or care about) economics well enough to understand that he's just helped someone steal both goods and the intangible value of his country's currency.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31349530</id>
	<title>Re:Surgery? They did... 4 days</title>
	<author>Fallen Kell</author>
	<datestamp>1267649940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>RTFA</htmltext>
<tokenext>RTFA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>RTFA</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347028</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347298</id>
	<title>A legal maneuver by police ...</title>
	<author>Rambo Tribble</author>
	<datestamp>1267639200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... since, obviously, if they hadn't operated, the evidence would have to have been, by its nature, eliminated.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... since , obviously , if they had n't operated , the evidence would have to have been , by its nature , eliminated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... since, obviously, if they hadn't operated, the evidence would have to have been, by its nature, eliminated.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31349036</id>
	<title>Re:Swallowing is your WORST option to erase eviden</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1267647540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's probably a market for a USB drive storage case with a battery operated high voltage power supply. See the cops coming, push the button and smoke them all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's probably a market for a USB drive storage case with a battery operated high voltage power supply .
See the cops coming , push the button and smoke them all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's probably a market for a USB drive storage case with a battery operated high voltage power supply.
See the cops coming, push the button and smoke them all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347028</id>
	<title>Surgery?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Couldn't they have just, you know, waited?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't they have just , you know , waited ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't they have just, you know, waited?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347976</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1267642440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Uh.. of course it's stolen.  The <em>value</em> is stolen.  Your {currency unit}'s utility is reduced and the counterfeiter gains {currency unit} with a value roughly equal to the aggregated loss of buying power.</p><p>You are deprived of "ability to get stuff" and the counterfeiter has more of the thing you were deprived of.  How is that not stealing?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh.. of course it 's stolen .
The value is stolen .
Your { currency unit } 's utility is reduced and the counterfeiter gains { currency unit } with a value roughly equal to the aggregated loss of buying power.You are deprived of " ability to get stuff " and the counterfeiter has more of the thing you were deprived of .
How is that not stealing ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh.. of course it's stolen.
The value is stolen.
Your {currency unit}'s utility is reduced and the counterfeiter gains {currency unit} with a value roughly equal to the aggregated loss of buying power.You are deprived of "ability to get stuff" and the counterfeiter has more of the thing you were deprived of.
How is that not stealing?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347194</id>
	<title>Encryption?</title>
	<author>kirill.s</author>
	<datestamp>1267638780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He could have just encrypted it!

Wait... if he was thinking he could get away with that, he must have been too dumb to encrypt it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He could have just encrypted it !
Wait... if he was thinking he could get away with that , he must have been too dumb to encrypt it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He could have just encrypted it!
Wait... if he was thinking he could get away with that, he must have been too dumb to encrypt it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348426</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1267644480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes, like the government's quantitative easing policy...</p><p>Did this friend of yours contribute to the laughable state of the zimbabwean economy? I bought a 100 trillion zimbabwe dollar bill a while ago just for fun, its worth about 3 cents.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes , like the government 's quantitative easing policy...Did this friend of yours contribute to the laughable state of the zimbabwean economy ?
I bought a 100 trillion zimbabwe dollar bill a while ago just for fun , its worth about 3 cents .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes, like the government's quantitative easing policy...Did this friend of yours contribute to the laughable state of the zimbabwean economy?
I bought a 100 trillion zimbabwe dollar bill a while ago just for fun, its worth about 3 cents.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347588</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347162</id>
	<title>He was charged with obstruction of justice</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Never have such charges been more appropriate.</p><p>After surgery, the suspect was quoted as saying, "And I thought I was regular before."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Never have such charges been more appropriate.After surgery , the suspect was quoted as saying , " And I thought I was regular before .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never have such charges been more appropriate.After surgery, the suspect was quoted as saying, "And I thought I was regular before.
"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347596</id>
	<title>So, was the drive still working?</title>
	<author>SlappyBastard</author>
	<datestamp>1267640400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because that could make a great ad for Kingston.</p><p>On a side note, they make -- albeit expensive -- flash drives with a kill switch.  If you're tromping around with incriminating data, it might not be a bad plan to pay a little more cash and be on the safe side.  Not that the criminal element was ever known for their forethought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because that could make a great ad for Kingston.On a side note , they make -- albeit expensive -- flash drives with a kill switch .
If you 're tromping around with incriminating data , it might not be a bad plan to pay a little more cash and be on the safe side .
Not that the criminal element was ever known for their forethought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because that could make a great ad for Kingston.On a side note, they make -- albeit expensive -- flash drives with a kill switch.
If you're tromping around with incriminating data, it might not be a bad plan to pay a little more cash and be on the safe side.
Not that the criminal element was ever known for their forethought.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348454</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>Znork</author>
	<datestamp>1267644600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Uh.. of course it's stolen. The value is stolen.</i></p><p>That's actually called fractional reserve banking. As to how it's not stealing, well, ask the Fed...</p><p>Seriously tho, if you're worried about the loss of value of a fiat currency, don't store your buying power in it. No counterfeiter in the world can do anything near what's done every day by those running the monetary systems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh.. of course it 's stolen .
The value is stolen.That 's actually called fractional reserve banking .
As to how it 's not stealing , well , ask the Fed...Seriously tho , if you 're worried about the loss of value of a fiat currency , do n't store your buying power in it .
No counterfeiter in the world can do anything near what 's done every day by those running the monetary systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh.. of course it's stolen.
The value is stolen.That's actually called fractional reserve banking.
As to how it's not stealing, well, ask the Fed...Seriously tho, if you're worried about the loss of value of a fiat currency, don't store your buying power in it.
No counterfeiter in the world can do anything near what's done every day by those running the monetary systems.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347976</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347644</id>
	<title>Obg. Tex Murphy (with apologies)</title>
	<author>Xaroth</author>
	<datestamp>1267640700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It was only a matter of time before the newly merged Frito-Kingston corporation cornered the chip market.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was only a matter of time before the newly merged Frito-Kingston corporation cornered the chip market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It was only a matter of time before the newly merged Frito-Kingston corporation cornered the chip market.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348468</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267644660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's funny that USA liberals refuse to understand how (their) non-violent crimes cause damage.</p><p>We can explain value loss and inflation by using a less politically loaded example, waiting a week for the person to forget his agenda. Tell the same person that gold is dropping at twice the rate, so he can be twice as rich. Then, you can let him figure out that everyone else is thinking the same thing (unfortunately, in the world of counterfeiting, this is not the case, and that's why the benefit is only for the criminal and the hurt is for everyone.)</p><p>Users will see how futile their new money is when everyone wants to get at the increased amount of gold. Auction (or whatever term WOW's inter user market system is called) prices will take off. His piggy bank with 50 hard-earned gold pieces can now be traded for much less elite armors than before, because other players know he can get off his ass and gather more cash to come back and trade. Eventually the system is so warped by user pricing that NPC sales go down after everyone has purchased the generic goods. The prices are low compared to player character shops, and all the non-generic good armor sales for a lot more. Other patches will eventually nerf monsters to be stronger to try to balance out the excess power given to the players, so the advantage in added gold is "gone," like when real world prices go up after your minimum salary increases by law... What doesn't go away with the changes is the fact that you still need to pay higher prices, or get lower quality goods at the old prices. If for some unfortunate disability, you can't farm the extra drops of gold now "available" to your peers, then your wallet effectively loses power to buy at the same value levels as before.</p><p>People then start to leave the game in anger. Back in reality, we can't "leave" the "game." We can even put the counterfeiters in jail, but the money can't be rounded up after it reaches innocent peoples hands. The prices won't go down. The grind will be a much steeper for them, while the counterfeiters create value to themselves from the illusion of unlimited amounts of "gold"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's funny that USA liberals refuse to understand how ( their ) non-violent crimes cause damage.We can explain value loss and inflation by using a less politically loaded example , waiting a week for the person to forget his agenda .
Tell the same person that gold is dropping at twice the rate , so he can be twice as rich .
Then , you can let him figure out that everyone else is thinking the same thing ( unfortunately , in the world of counterfeiting , this is not the case , and that 's why the benefit is only for the criminal and the hurt is for everyone .
) Users will see how futile their new money is when everyone wants to get at the increased amount of gold .
Auction ( or whatever term WOW 's inter user market system is called ) prices will take off .
His piggy bank with 50 hard-earned gold pieces can now be traded for much less elite armors than before , because other players know he can get off his ass and gather more cash to come back and trade .
Eventually the system is so warped by user pricing that NPC sales go down after everyone has purchased the generic goods .
The prices are low compared to player character shops , and all the non-generic good armor sales for a lot more .
Other patches will eventually nerf monsters to be stronger to try to balance out the excess power given to the players , so the advantage in added gold is " gone , " like when real world prices go up after your minimum salary increases by law... What does n't go away with the changes is the fact that you still need to pay higher prices , or get lower quality goods at the old prices .
If for some unfortunate disability , you ca n't farm the extra drops of gold now " available " to your peers , then your wallet effectively loses power to buy at the same value levels as before.People then start to leave the game in anger .
Back in reality , we ca n't " leave " the " game .
" We can even put the counterfeiters in jail , but the money ca n't be rounded up after it reaches innocent peoples hands .
The prices wo n't go down .
The grind will be a much steeper for them , while the counterfeiters create value to themselves from the illusion of unlimited amounts of " gold "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's funny that USA liberals refuse to understand how (their) non-violent crimes cause damage.We can explain value loss and inflation by using a less politically loaded example, waiting a week for the person to forget his agenda.
Tell the same person that gold is dropping at twice the rate, so he can be twice as rich.
Then, you can let him figure out that everyone else is thinking the same thing (unfortunately, in the world of counterfeiting, this is not the case, and that's why the benefit is only for the criminal and the hurt is for everyone.
)Users will see how futile their new money is when everyone wants to get at the increased amount of gold.
Auction (or whatever term WOW's inter user market system is called) prices will take off.
His piggy bank with 50 hard-earned gold pieces can now be traded for much less elite armors than before, because other players know he can get off his ass and gather more cash to come back and trade.
Eventually the system is so warped by user pricing that NPC sales go down after everyone has purchased the generic goods.
The prices are low compared to player character shops, and all the non-generic good armor sales for a lot more.
Other patches will eventually nerf monsters to be stronger to try to balance out the excess power given to the players, so the advantage in added gold is "gone," like when real world prices go up after your minimum salary increases by law... What doesn't go away with the changes is the fact that you still need to pay higher prices, or get lower quality goods at the old prices.
If for some unfortunate disability, you can't farm the extra drops of gold now "available" to your peers, then your wallet effectively loses power to buy at the same value levels as before.People then start to leave the game in anger.
Back in reality, we can't "leave" the "game.
" We can even put the counterfeiters in jail, but the money can't be rounded up after it reaches innocent peoples hands.
The prices won't go down.
The grind will be a much steeper for them, while the counterfeiters create value to themselves from the illusion of unlimited amounts of "gold"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347976</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347026</id>
	<title>That does it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am never, ever getting into the data recovery business.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am never , ever getting into the data recovery business .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am never, ever getting into the data recovery business.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348710</id>
	<title>Re:Swallowing is your WORST option to erase eviden</title>
	<author>Jaysyn</author>
	<datestamp>1267645800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dropped a Kingston USB drive in the parking lot at work &amp; didn't realize it was missing till 2 rainy days later.  When I found it, it had been ran over by at least one car &amp; was sitting in a puddle.  I let it dry out, bent the connector straight, plugged it in &amp; got my data off of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dropped a Kingston USB drive in the parking lot at work &amp; did n't realize it was missing till 2 rainy days later .
When I found it , it had been ran over by at least one car &amp; was sitting in a puddle .
I let it dry out , bent the connector straight , plugged it in &amp; got my data off of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dropped a Kingston USB drive in the parking lot at work &amp; didn't realize it was missing till 2 rainy days later.
When I found it, it had been ran over by at least one car &amp; was sitting in a puddle.
I let it dry out, bent the connector straight, plugged it in &amp; got my data off of it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347378</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31349822</id>
	<title>Re:Encryption?</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1267608000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you encrypt a drive and refuse to hand over the key, isn't that nearly as bad?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you encrypt a drive and refuse to hand over the key , is n't that nearly as bad ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you encrypt a drive and refuse to hand over the key, isn't that nearly as bad?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347194</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347314</id>
	<title>Re:Surgery?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267639260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Couldn't you have, you know, read the article?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't you have , you know , read the article ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't you have, you know, read the article?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347028</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348930</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>MobileTatsu-NJG</author>
	<datestamp>1267647060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No. The value of their currency is reduced. Nothing was stolen. It's just worth less than it was before.</p></div><p>I have a dumb question:  If I use a fake twenty at a store, and then they turn around and take that to the bank, and the bank says "that's counterfit!"... does't that mean the store is out the $20?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
The value of their currency is reduced .
Nothing was stolen .
It 's just worth less than it was before.I have a dumb question : If I use a fake twenty at a store , and then they turn around and take that to the bank , and the bank says " that 's counterfit ! " .. .
does't that mean the store is out the $ 20 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
The value of their currency is reduced.
Nothing was stolen.
It's just worth less than it was before.I have a dumb question:  If I use a fake twenty at a store, and then they turn around and take that to the bank, and the bank says "that's counterfit!"...
does't that mean the store is out the $20?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347876</id>
	<title>Interesting...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have washed and dried USB sticks before(Rally2) that have worked fine afterwords. It would be interesting to see how digestion effects them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have washed and dried USB sticks before ( Rally2 ) that have worked fine afterwords .
It would be interesting to see how digestion effects them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have washed and dried USB sticks before(Rally2) that have worked fine afterwords.
It would be interesting to see how digestion effects them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31350356</id>
	<title>Deflationary economy</title>
	<author>MillionthMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1267610520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency. If you have some amount of value or wealth in your country in terms of goods and land, and suddenly there's twice as much money in circulation, everything would suddenly have to cost twice as much for the same amount of value to be exchanged. In essence, by introducing twice as much money into circulation, the money printer has just stolen half the wealth from all users of the currency.</p></div><p>If the money printer doesn't print <i>twice</i> as much as in circulation (geez!) but say 1\% as much, it will prompt people to stop sitting on their savings in a deflationary economy and start spending and loaning the money again.
<br> <br>
Remember money itself is not a commodity like bread; you can't eat it or build a house with it or clothe yourself with it. You use it to get other people to help you out with these things. It's a tool we use to operate an economy, and when the tool jams everything up by appreciating in value by itself, someone gets to do us all a favor by stealing it a little. The "theft" is handled by the government (as opposed to counterfeiters) since the government does not counterfeit its own currency.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency .
If you have some amount of value or wealth in your country in terms of goods and land , and suddenly there 's twice as much money in circulation , everything would suddenly have to cost twice as much for the same amount of value to be exchanged .
In essence , by introducing twice as much money into circulation , the money printer has just stolen half the wealth from all users of the currency.If the money printer does n't print twice as much as in circulation ( geez !
) but say 1 \ % as much , it will prompt people to stop sitting on their savings in a deflationary economy and start spending and loaning the money again .
Remember money itself is not a commodity like bread ; you ca n't eat it or build a house with it or clothe yourself with it .
You use it to get other people to help you out with these things .
It 's a tool we use to operate an economy , and when the tool jams everything up by appreciating in value by itself , someone gets to do us all a favor by stealing it a little .
The " theft " is handled by the government ( as opposed to counterfeiters ) since the government does not counterfeit its own currency .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency.
If you have some amount of value or wealth in your country in terms of goods and land, and suddenly there's twice as much money in circulation, everything would suddenly have to cost twice as much for the same amount of value to be exchanged.
In essence, by introducing twice as much money into circulation, the money printer has just stolen half the wealth from all users of the currency.If the money printer doesn't print twice as much as in circulation (geez!
) but say 1\% as much, it will prompt people to stop sitting on their savings in a deflationary economy and start spending and loaning the money again.
Remember money itself is not a commodity like bread; you can't eat it or build a house with it or clothe yourself with it.
You use it to get other people to help you out with these things.
It's a tool we use to operate an economy, and when the tool jams everything up by appreciating in value by itself, someone gets to do us all a favor by stealing it a little.
The "theft" is handled by the government (as opposed to counterfeiters) since the government does not counterfeit its own currency.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31353726</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>Waccoon</author>
	<datestamp>1267630320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency.</p></div><p>* Witty, easily-overlooked commentary about government *</p><p>Also, Hitler!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency .
* Witty , easily-overlooked commentary about government * Also , Hitler !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency.
* Witty, easily-overlooked commentary about government *Also, Hitler!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347588</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31352810</id>
	<title>Re:New warning on Kingston USB drives</title>
	<author>springbox</author>
	<datestamp>1267623060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do not eat iPod Shuffle</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do not eat iPod Shuffle</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do not eat iPod Shuffle</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347200</id>
	<title>New warning on Kingston USB drives</title>
	<author>Chris Burke</author>
	<datestamp>1267638780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Do Not Eat (if containing evidence in a federal investigation)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Do Not Eat ( if containing evidence in a federal investigation )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do Not Eat (if containing evidence in a federal investigation)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348344</id>
	<title>Re:Swallowing is your WORST option to erase eviden</title>
	<author>LtGordon</author>
	<datestamp>1267644060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Quite frankly. While stomach acid might work to some degree, it's absolutely unreliable and we're not even getting to where it gets stuck inside of you and you're going to be unconscious when they retrieve it.</p></div><p>It's not absolutely reliable, but you could definitely do worse. Gastric acid is largely Hydrochloric acid, which reacts readily with metals like lead and copper commonly used in electronics.</p><p>That being said, I really wouldn't recommend eating a USB flash drive. It may or may not actually be effective in destroying the data, could require surgery to remove, could add some nice heavy metals to your diet, could get you charged with destruction of evidence, etc. Much easier to just encrypt the data and memorize the key. Encryption won't get you charged with destruction of evidence and you can't (yet) be forced to turn over passwords to assist in your prosecution <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/15/1459243" title="slashdot.org">(5th Amendment)</a> [slashdot.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite frankly .
While stomach acid might work to some degree , it 's absolutely unreliable and we 're not even getting to where it gets stuck inside of you and you 're going to be unconscious when they retrieve it.It 's not absolutely reliable , but you could definitely do worse .
Gastric acid is largely Hydrochloric acid , which reacts readily with metals like lead and copper commonly used in electronics.That being said , I really would n't recommend eating a USB flash drive .
It may or may not actually be effective in destroying the data , could require surgery to remove , could add some nice heavy metals to your diet , could get you charged with destruction of evidence , etc .
Much easier to just encrypt the data and memorize the key .
Encryption wo n't get you charged with destruction of evidence and you ca n't ( yet ) be forced to turn over passwords to assist in your prosecution ( 5th Amendment ) [ slashdot.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite frankly.
While stomach acid might work to some degree, it's absolutely unreliable and we're not even getting to where it gets stuck inside of you and you're going to be unconscious when they retrieve it.It's not absolutely reliable, but you could definitely do worse.
Gastric acid is largely Hydrochloric acid, which reacts readily with metals like lead and copper commonly used in electronics.That being said, I really wouldn't recommend eating a USB flash drive.
It may or may not actually be effective in destroying the data, could require surgery to remove, could add some nice heavy metals to your diet, could get you charged with destruction of evidence, etc.
Much easier to just encrypt the data and memorize the key.
Encryption won't get you charged with destruction of evidence and you can't (yet) be forced to turn over passwords to assist in your prosecution (5th Amendment) [slashdot.org].
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347014</id>
	<title>the drive was surgically recovered.</title>
	<author>wiredog</author>
	<datestamp>1267638060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Couldn't they just wait for it to move through?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Could n't they just wait for it to move through ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Couldn't they just wait for it to move through?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31346994</id>
	<title>Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The guy was counterfeiting. That doesn't hurt anyone, especially if the copies are really good.</p><p>But you're right. He should have chewed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The guy was counterfeiting .
That does n't hurt anyone , especially if the copies are really good.But you 're right .
He should have chewed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The guy was counterfeiting.
That doesn't hurt anyone, especially if the copies are really good.But you're right.
He should have chewed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348438</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>Bert64</author>
	<datestamp>1267644540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The dictator may be unable to export the goods himself, perhaps due to sanctions or similar... Or he may have to export them on the black market and accept an extremely poor price for them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The dictator may be unable to export the goods himself , perhaps due to sanctions or similar... Or he may have to export them on the black market and accept an extremely poor price for them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The dictator may be unable to export the goods himself, perhaps due to sanctions or similar... Or he may have to export them on the black market and accept an extremely poor price for them.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347664</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348674</id>
	<title>Re:Would you want to retrieve it?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267645680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stick?  What stick? What article/summary were you reading? If the drive was encrypted, he would not have needed to swallow it in the first place.  He probably just panicked and made a failed attempt at being stealthy anyhow.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stick ?
What stick ?
What article/summary were you reading ?
If the drive was encrypted , he would not have needed to swallow it in the first place .
He probably just panicked and made a failed attempt at being stealthy anyhow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stick?
What stick?
What article/summary were you reading?
If the drive was encrypted, he would not have needed to swallow it in the first place.
He probably just panicked and made a failed attempt at being stealthy anyhow.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348106</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347664</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1267640820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency.</p></div><p>No. The value of their currency is reduced. Nothing was stolen. It&rsquo;s just worth less than it was before.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>He'd then take that money and spend it on as much stuff as he could, take it to America and sell it at a profit.</p></div><p>If you can&rsquo;t see work being performed and value being added, you&rsquo;re blind.</p><p>Sure the dictator could have just as easily exported all of those goods himself. He didn&rsquo;t. He chose to have someone else do it, because it was a quicker payout and less work for him. Absolutely nothing was stolen.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency.No .
The value of their currency is reduced .
Nothing was stolen .
It    s just worth less than it was before.He 'd then take that money and spend it on as much stuff as he could , take it to America and sell it at a profit.If you can    t see work being performed and value being added , you    re blind.Sure the dictator could have just as easily exported all of those goods himself .
He didn    t .
He chose to have someone else do it , because it was a quicker payout and less work for him .
Absolutely nothing was stolen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Printing money steals from everyone else with the currency.No.
The value of their currency is reduced.
Nothing was stolen.
It’s just worth less than it was before.He'd then take that money and spend it on as much stuff as he could, take it to America and sell it at a profit.If you can’t see work being performed and value being added, you’re blind.Sure the dictator could have just as easily exported all of those goods himself.
He didn’t.
He chose to have someone else do it, because it was a quicker payout and less work for him.
Absolutely nothing was stolen.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348090</id>
	<title>This too</title>
	<author>AP31R0N</author>
	<datestamp>1267642920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This too, shall pass.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This too , shall pass .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This too, shall pass.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31349502</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>clone53421</author>
	<datestamp>1267649880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes. Care to explain how that relates?</p><p>You have stolen from the store because the arrangement was that they give you $20 worth of real goods in exchange for $20 face-value in US currency. You took $20 worth of goods and did not give them $20 in US currency. That&rsquo;s theft. You stole from the store.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
Care to explain how that relates ? You have stolen from the store because the arrangement was that they give you $ 20 worth of real goods in exchange for $ 20 face-value in US currency .
You took $ 20 worth of goods and did not give them $ 20 in US currency .
That    s theft .
You stole from the store .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
Care to explain how that relates?You have stolen from the store because the arrangement was that they give you $20 worth of real goods in exchange for $20 face-value in US currency.
You took $20 worth of goods and did not give them $20 in US currency.
That’s theft.
You stole from the store.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347874</id>
	<title>just a little cryptography</title>
	<author>Conditioner</author>
	<datestamp>1267641900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>its a Message Digest...</htmltext>
<tokenext>its a Message Digest.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>its a Message Digest...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31349054</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>groslyunderpaid</author>
	<datestamp>1267647660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>No. The value of their currency is reduced. Nothing was stolen. It&rsquo;s just worth less than it was before.</p></div><p>
<a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steal" title="merriam-webster.com" rel="nofollow">1 a : to take or appropriate without right or leave and with intent to keep or make use of wrongfully.  d : to appropriate to oneself or beyond one's proper share. 3 a : to seize, gain, or win by trickery</a> [merriam-webster.com] <br> <br>I've pretty sure you just said value/worth was stolen.<br> <br>
Care to try again?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
The value of their currency is reduced .
Nothing was stolen .
It    s just worth less than it was before .
1 a : to take or appropriate without right or leave and with intent to keep or make use of wrongfully .
d : to appropriate to oneself or beyond one 's proper share .
3 a : to seize , gain , or win by trickery [ merriam-webster.com ] I 've pretty sure you just said value/worth was stolen .
Care to try again ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
The value of their currency is reduced.
Nothing was stolen.
It’s just worth less than it was before.
1 a : to take or appropriate without right or leave and with intent to keep or make use of wrongfully.
d : to appropriate to oneself or beyond one's proper share.
3 a : to seize, gain, or win by trickery [merriam-webster.com]  I've pretty sure you just said value/worth was stolen.
Care to try again?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31348664</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>ffreeloader</author>
	<datestamp>1267645620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ummmm.... If I do something illegal that makes you poorer, and at the same time enrich myself due to my actions, I have most certainly stolen from you as I have illegally and immorally enriched myself at your expense, and without your permission.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ummmm.... If I do something illegal that makes you poorer , and at the same time enrich myself due to my actions , I have most certainly stolen from you as I have illegally and immorally enriched myself at your expense , and without your permission .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ummmm.... If I do something illegal that makes you poorer, and at the same time enrich myself due to my actions, I have most certainly stolen from you as I have illegally and immorally enriched myself at your expense, and without your permission.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347090</id>
	<title>Re:the drive was surgically recovered.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yes.  But after 4 days (RTFA), there would be legitimate medical reason to worry about whether it was going to make its own way along.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yes .
But after 4 days ( RTFA ) , there would be legitimate medical reason to worry about whether it was going to make its own way along .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yes.
But after 4 days (RTFA), there would be legitimate medical reason to worry about whether it was going to make its own way along.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347812</id>
	<title>Re:Making copies shouldn't be a crime</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thank the gods there's nothing with a name similar to The Rederal Feserve that prints money (based on nothing) to 'bail-out' an economy (based on nothing).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thank the gods there 's nothing with a name similar to The Rederal Feserve that prints money ( based on nothing ) to 'bail-out ' an economy ( based on nothing ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thank the gods there's nothing with a name similar to The Rederal Feserve that prints money (based on nothing) to 'bail-out' an economy (based on nothing).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347134</id>
	<title>Re:the drive was surgically recovered.</title>
	<author>kirill.s</author>
	<datestamp>1267638540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That would have been pretty cruel, since he would have probably died from internal bleeding, and they'd have nobody to accuse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That would have been pretty cruel , since he would have probably died from internal bleeding , and they 'd have nobody to accuse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That would have been pretty cruel, since he would have probably died from internal bleeding, and they'd have nobody to accuse.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347714</id>
	<title>Re:Swallowing is your WORST option to erase eviden</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267641000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems like a bit of an over complex solution when you could<br>High volume+ effeceint:<br>1:<br>encrypt the drive.<br>2:<br>encrypt the drive with some deniable style system like truecrypt.</p><p>lower volume high secrecy:<br>3:<br>carry around a USB key full of your holiday snaps.... and hide an encrypted drive in the least significant bits of the photos.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems like a bit of an over complex solution when you couldHigh volume + effeceint : 1 : encrypt the drive.2 : encrypt the drive with some deniable style system like truecrypt.lower volume high secrecy : 3 : carry around a USB key full of your holiday snaps.... and hide an encrypted drive in the least significant bits of the photos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems like a bit of an over complex solution when you couldHigh volume+ effeceint:1:encrypt the drive.2:encrypt the drive with some deniable style system like truecrypt.lower volume high secrecy:3:carry around a USB key full of your holiday snaps.... and hide an encrypted drive in the least significant bits of the photos.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347058</id>
	<title>Hope it was RoHS compliant...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267638300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always check before I swallow electronic evidence.  I may be stupid but in my body I don't want more than the acceptable levels of lead, cadmium, mercury, hexavalent chromium, polybrominated biphenyl (PBB) and polybrominated diphenyl ether (PBDE) flame retardants.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always check before I swallow electronic evidence .
I may be stupid but in my body I do n't want more than the acceptable levels of lead , cadmium , mercury , hexavalent chromium , polybrominated biphenyl ( PBB ) and polybrominated diphenyl ether ( PBDE ) flame retardants .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always check before I swallow electronic evidence.
I may be stupid but in my body I don't want more than the acceptable levels of lead, cadmium, mercury, hexavalent chromium, polybrominated biphenyl (PBB) and polybrominated diphenyl ether (PBDE) flame retardants.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347378</id>
	<title>Swallowing is your WORST option to erase evidence</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267639500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quite frankly. While stomach acid might work to some degree, it's absolutely unreliable and we're not even getting to where it gets stuck inside of you and you're going to be unconscious when they retrieve it.</p><p>USB sticks are fragile and tiny. Even during a raid there is plenty of time to get rid of them or destroy them physically. Even if you're arrested on the street, your chances are higher to destroy what you have on you by throwing it on the street. Chances are, before they can retrieve it a few trucks passed over it, or it shattered from the impact altogether.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quite frankly .
While stomach acid might work to some degree , it 's absolutely unreliable and we 're not even getting to where it gets stuck inside of you and you 're going to be unconscious when they retrieve it.USB sticks are fragile and tiny .
Even during a raid there is plenty of time to get rid of them or destroy them physically .
Even if you 're arrested on the street , your chances are higher to destroy what you have on you by throwing it on the street .
Chances are , before they can retrieve it a few trucks passed over it , or it shattered from the impact altogether .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quite frankly.
While stomach acid might work to some degree, it's absolutely unreliable and we're not even getting to where it gets stuck inside of you and you're going to be unconscious when they retrieve it.USB sticks are fragile and tiny.
Even during a raid there is plenty of time to get rid of them or destroy them physically.
Even if you're arrested on the street, your chances are higher to destroy what you have on you by throwing it on the street.
Chances are, before they can retrieve it a few trucks passed over it, or it shattered from the impact altogether.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_03_03_1550212.31347030</id>
	<title>New definition of</title>
	<author>alman</author>
	<datestamp>1267638180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>data dump?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>data dump ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>data dump?</sentencetext>
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