<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_26_175254</id>
	<title>EU Says Google Street View Violates Privacy</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1267205640000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>upto0013 notes the latest spot of trouble for Google in Europe: the <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023\_3-10460355-93.html">EU says that Google's Street View images violate privacy laws</a>. The EU's privacy watchdog asked Google to notify cities and towns before photographing (Google says it <a href="http://maps.google.com/help/maps/streetview/where-is-street-view.html">does this already</a>) and to delete original photos after 6 months (Google keeps them for a year and says it has reason to do so). <i>"[T]he privacy official] said that the company should revise its 'disproportionate' policy of keeping the original unblurred images for up to a year, saying improvements in Google's blurring technology and better public awareness would lead to fewer complaints &mdash; and a shorter delay for people to react to the photos they see on the site. Complaints about the images put online would usually be checked against the original photos."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>upto0013 notes the latest spot of trouble for Google in Europe : the EU says that Google 's Street View images violate privacy laws .
The EU 's privacy watchdog asked Google to notify cities and towns before photographing ( Google says it does this already ) and to delete original photos after 6 months ( Google keeps them for a year and says it has reason to do so ) .
" [ T ] he privacy official ] said that the company should revise its 'disproportionate ' policy of keeping the original unblurred images for up to a year , saying improvements in Google 's blurring technology and better public awareness would lead to fewer complaints    and a shorter delay for people to react to the photos they see on the site .
Complaints about the images put online would usually be checked against the original photos .
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<sentencetext>upto0013 notes the latest spot of trouble for Google in Europe: the EU says that Google's Street View images violate privacy laws.
The EU's privacy watchdog asked Google to notify cities and towns before photographing (Google says it does this already) and to delete original photos after 6 months (Google keeps them for a year and says it has reason to do so).
"[T]he privacy official] said that the company should revise its 'disproportionate' policy of keeping the original unblurred images for up to a year, saying improvements in Google's blurring technology and better public awareness would lead to fewer complaints — and a shorter delay for people to react to the photos they see on the site.
Complaints about the images put online would usually be checked against the original photos.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289846</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267175100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>US laws aren't relevant here. I for one am glad we have laws against paparazzis.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>US laws are n't relevant here .
I for one am glad we have laws against paparazzis .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>US laws aren't relevant here.
I for one am glad we have laws against paparazzis.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289636</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>Yamata no Orochi</author>
	<datestamp>1267217340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there were a picture of my house in your personal photo albums, I would find that very weird.  If I found you outside my house taking pictures of it from the street, I would feel vaguely threatened and would want to know what your motives were.  If you told me that you were going to post them to make money and asserted your right to stand there taking pictures of my house, I would probably call the cops.</p></div><p>I wouldn't have said, "I'm going to post pictures of your house to make money, har har harrr!!" I would've said something along the lines of, "No, I'm not just taking pictures of your house, I'm taking pictures in a panoramic view from the point at which I'm standing. Don't worry about it."</p><p>If you said some dumb shit about calling the cops or whatever at that point, I would smile and nod, and probably wrap it up before they came to save myself the trouble of explaining to them that you're a psycho.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If there were a picture of my house in your personal photo albums , I would find that very weird .
If I found you outside my house taking pictures of it from the street , I would feel vaguely threatened and would want to know what your motives were .
If you told me that you were going to post them to make money and asserted your right to stand there taking pictures of my house , I would probably call the cops.I would n't have said , " I 'm going to post pictures of your house to make money , har har harrr ! !
" I would 've said something along the lines of , " No , I 'm not just taking pictures of your house , I 'm taking pictures in a panoramic view from the point at which I 'm standing .
Do n't worry about it .
" If you said some dumb shit about calling the cops or whatever at that point , I would smile and nod , and probably wrap it up before they came to save myself the trouble of explaining to them that you 're a psycho .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there were a picture of my house in your personal photo albums, I would find that very weird.
If I found you outside my house taking pictures of it from the street, I would feel vaguely threatened and would want to know what your motives were.
If you told me that you were going to post them to make money and asserted your right to stand there taking pictures of my house, I would probably call the cops.I wouldn't have said, "I'm going to post pictures of your house to make money, har har harrr!!
" I would've said something along the lines of, "No, I'm not just taking pictures of your house, I'm taking pictures in a panoramic view from the point at which I'm standing.
Don't worry about it.
"If you said some dumb shit about calling the cops or whatever at that point, I would smile and nod, and probably wrap it up before they came to save myself the trouble of explaining to them that you're a psycho.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287540</id>
	<title>At least...</title>
	<author>cbuosi</author>
	<datestamp>1267209600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least they dont do like the authorities: "Hey, do you have something to hide?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least they dont do like the authorities : " Hey , do you have something to hide ?
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<sentencetext>At least they dont do like the authorities: "Hey, do you have something to hide?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288884</id>
	<title>Re:On the other hand</title>
	<author>Neoprofin</author>
	<datestamp>1267214160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We also have Google street view, something I hear my European (mostly German) housemates complain that it'd be nice to have.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We also have Google street view , something I hear my European ( mostly German ) housemates complain that it 'd be nice to have .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We also have Google street view, something I hear my European (mostly German) housemates complain that it'd be nice to have.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31292768</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267190580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have to understand that privacy isn't just binary. There really is a huge difference between a couple of people being able to see you for a short period of time and the whole world being able to see you forever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to understand that privacy is n't just binary .
There really is a huge difference between a couple of people being able to see you for a short period of time and the whole world being able to see you forever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to understand that privacy isn't just binary.
There really is a huge difference between a couple of people being able to see you for a short period of time and the whole world being able to see you forever.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288698</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1267213380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Your house is already copyrighted.  It is an expression of the architectual art, and the copyright is owned by the architect.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright\_in\_architecture\_in\_the\_United\_States" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright\_in\_architecture\_in\_the\_United\_States</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Your house is already copyrighted .
It is an expression of the architectual art , and the copyright is owned by the architect .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright \ _in \ _architecture \ _in \ _the \ _United \ _States [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your house is already copyrighted.
It is an expression of the architectual art, and the copyright is owned by the architect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright\_in\_architecture\_in\_the\_United\_States [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290056</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1267176240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the student is made aware that turnitin would be used before the paper was written, then there's no basis for opposing it, because knowing it would be used that way and still submitting a paper is equivalent to permission to use it that way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the student is made aware that turnitin would be used before the paper was written , then there 's no basis for opposing it , because knowing it would be used that way and still submitting a paper is equivalent to permission to use it that way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the student is made aware that turnitin would be used before the paper was written, then there's no basis for opposing it, because knowing it would be used that way and still submitting a paper is equivalent to permission to use it that way.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289888</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1267175400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>However, remember that the Google van has the camera a lot higher than what you could see walking on the street. If you went taking photos of someones backyard that is otherwise shield, you would be violating law.</p> </div><p>Suppose I live in an apartment building across the street from a walled garden, and a naked person is chilling inside the garden.  Further suppose I'm taking photographs of the view from my apartment window.  Am I violating that naked person's privacy?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>However , remember that the Google van has the camera a lot higher than what you could see walking on the street .
If you went taking photos of someones backyard that is otherwise shield , you would be violating law .
Suppose I live in an apartment building across the street from a walled garden , and a naked person is chilling inside the garden .
Further suppose I 'm taking photographs of the view from my apartment window .
Am I violating that naked person 's privacy ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, remember that the Google van has the camera a lot higher than what you could see walking on the street.
If you went taking photos of someones backyard that is otherwise shield, you would be violating law.
Suppose I live in an apartment building across the street from a walled garden, and a naked person is chilling inside the garden.
Further suppose I'm taking photographs of the view from my apartment window.
Am I violating that naked person's privacy?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288192</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For the same reason you can watch a performance with your own eyes, but not photograph it. The ability to see something does NOT imply the right to rebroadcast, retransmit, or store it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For the same reason you can watch a performance with your own eyes , but not photograph it .
The ability to see something does NOT imply the right to rebroadcast , retransmit , or store it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For the same reason you can watch a performance with your own eyes, but not photograph it.
The ability to see something does NOT imply the right to rebroadcast, retransmit, or store it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288912</id>
	<title>Re:Police is investigating it too</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1267214280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Were no charges contemplated against these public disrobing?</p><p>If not, was it because such is not illegal in a publicly viewable area in these countries?</p><p>And if not illegal, then what's the problem here?</p><p>How much expectation of privacy does someone have laying on public beach nude or whanking off in full view of the neighborhood?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Were no charges contemplated against these public disrobing ? If not , was it because such is not illegal in a publicly viewable area in these countries ? And if not illegal , then what 's the problem here ? How much expectation of privacy does someone have laying on public beach nude or whanking off in full view of the neighborhood ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Were no charges contemplated against these public disrobing?If not, was it because such is not illegal in a publicly viewable area in these countries?And if not illegal, then what's the problem here?How much expectation of privacy does someone have laying on public beach nude or whanking off in full view of the neighborhood?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289334</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1267215900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They're not really that high. The earliest <a href="http://maps.google.com/help/maps/streetview/behind-the-scenes.html" title="google.com">streetview vehicle</a> [google.com] was a van, but they're using sedans now (photos at the link). The camera is no higher than the head of a driver of an SUV, perhaps not even as high.</p><p>If someone in a Hummer can see you naked it's your own fault.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're not really that high .
The earliest streetview vehicle [ google.com ] was a van , but they 're using sedans now ( photos at the link ) .
The camera is no higher than the head of a driver of an SUV , perhaps not even as high.If someone in a Hummer can see you naked it 's your own fault .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're not really that high.
The earliest streetview vehicle [google.com] was a van, but they're using sedans now (photos at the link).
The camera is no higher than the head of a driver of an SUV, perhaps not even as high.If someone in a Hummer can see you naked it's your own fault.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288902</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>ashitaka</author>
	<datestamp>1267214220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is why a huge portion of Tokyo including the street where I used to live is no longer covered by Streetview. The wall outside our landlord neighbour's house is about 2m high.  I couldn't see over it when walking by it but the Google pics when they were up it was easy to see into their living room.  Most Japanese urban houses are less than 2 meters from the road.  In these cases you are able to see what someone walking would not, hence the application of laws related to unnatural viewpoints.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is why a huge portion of Tokyo including the street where I used to live is no longer covered by Streetview .
The wall outside our landlord neighbour 's house is about 2m high .
I could n't see over it when walking by it but the Google pics when they were up it was easy to see into their living room .
Most Japanese urban houses are less than 2 meters from the road .
In these cases you are able to see what someone walking would not , hence the application of laws related to unnatural viewpoints .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is why a huge portion of Tokyo including the street where I used to live is no longer covered by Streetview.
The wall outside our landlord neighbour's house is about 2m high.
I couldn't see over it when walking by it but the Google pics when they were up it was easy to see into their living room.
Most Japanese urban houses are less than 2 meters from the road.
In these cases you are able to see what someone walking would not, hence the application of laws related to unnatural viewpoints.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288144</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Colonel Korn</author>
	<datestamp>1267211460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I really don't see the philosophical or policy  basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit. What is visible in public should be photographable to the public. If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law, why shouldn't I be able to photograph it? And if I can do it for individual photos why shouldn't Google be able to do it systematically?</p></div><p>Just for the sake of argument...</p><p>You drop skin cells in public all the time.  Would you object to me collecting them, analyzing your DNA, and then sharing with the world a list of your genetic limitations?</p><p>Or...</p><p>Women wear skirts in public.  In various circumstances, for instance on glass walkways, this creates "visibility issues."  That's not a big problem.  Would it be acceptable for the owner of such a walkway to stick a camera underneath, photograph each person, then put the photos on a website that connects them with identifying information?</p><p>Cue a bunch of silly<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. responses about hypothetical situation #2...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really do n't see the philosophical or policy basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit .
What is visible in public should be photographable to the public .
If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law , why should n't I be able to photograph it ?
And if I can do it for individual photos why should n't Google be able to do it systematically ? Just for the sake of argument...You drop skin cells in public all the time .
Would you object to me collecting them , analyzing your DNA , and then sharing with the world a list of your genetic limitations ? Or...Women wear skirts in public .
In various circumstances , for instance on glass walkways , this creates " visibility issues .
" That 's not a big problem .
Would it be acceptable for the owner of such a walkway to stick a camera underneath , photograph each person , then put the photos on a website that connects them with identifying information ? Cue a bunch of silly / .
responses about hypothetical situation # 2.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really don't see the philosophical or policy  basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit.
What is visible in public should be photographable to the public.
If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law, why shouldn't I be able to photograph it?
And if I can do it for individual photos why shouldn't Google be able to do it systematically?Just for the sake of argument...You drop skin cells in public all the time.
Would you object to me collecting them, analyzing your DNA, and then sharing with the world a list of your genetic limitations?Or...Women wear skirts in public.
In various circumstances, for instance on glass walkways, this creates "visibility issues.
"  That's not a big problem.
Would it be acceptable for the owner of such a walkway to stick a camera underneath, photograph each person, then put the photos on a website that connects them with identifying information?Cue a bunch of silly /.
responses about hypothetical situation #2...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287874</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267210620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With privacy and technology, one always has to be mindful.</p><p>For instance, what if some company developed a safe, perfectly passive see-through-walls device. Should they have the right to scan into your home from public property?</p><p>Or how about routers. We trust routers to just do their jobs: send packets across public networks. Should someone running a router (read:ISP) have the right to store any information which passes over their routers for any amount of time that they see fit?</p><p>Just a few edge cases; I haven't given it much thought.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With privacy and technology , one always has to be mindful.For instance , what if some company developed a safe , perfectly passive see-through-walls device .
Should they have the right to scan into your home from public property ? Or how about routers .
We trust routers to just do their jobs : send packets across public networks .
Should someone running a router ( read : ISP ) have the right to store any information which passes over their routers for any amount of time that they see fit ? Just a few edge cases ; I have n't given it much thought .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With privacy and technology, one always has to be mindful.For instance, what if some company developed a safe, perfectly passive see-through-walls device.
Should they have the right to scan into your home from public property?Or how about routers.
We trust routers to just do their jobs: send packets across public networks.
Should someone running a router (read:ISP) have the right to store any information which passes over their routers for any amount of time that they see fit?Just a few edge cases; I haven't given it much thought.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289918</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>HeronBlademaster</author>
	<datestamp>1267175580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So if I'm at the beach, and I take a picture of my friends, I should be required to obtain the consent of everyone in the background before posting the picture to my blog?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So if I 'm at the beach , and I take a picture of my friends , I should be required to obtain the consent of everyone in the background before posting the picture to my blog ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So if I'm at the beach, and I take a picture of my friends, I should be required to obtain the consent of everyone in the background before posting the picture to my blog?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287618</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>sopssa</author>
	<datestamp>1267209840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's solely UK's own issue. EU isn't a government nor does it work like US. If UK blatantly and explicitly goes directly against some EU law, then they might say something about it.</p><p>What EU privacy law is UK specifically violating?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's solely UK 's own issue .
EU is n't a government nor does it work like US .
If UK blatantly and explicitly goes directly against some EU law , then they might say something about it.What EU privacy law is UK specifically violating ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's solely UK's own issue.
EU isn't a government nor does it work like US.
If UK blatantly and explicitly goes directly against some EU law, then they might say something about it.What EU privacy law is UK specifically violating?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287922</id>
	<title>Re:Police is investigating it too</title>
	<author>mosb1000</author>
	<datestamp>1267210860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Are you kidding me?!  If you are sitting out somewhere where john Q public can walk by and see you in the buff, how much could you possibly really care about your privacy?  Hey, if you don't want people to know that you sit naked on your porch, stop doing it!  They can see you!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Are you kidding me ? !
If you are sitting out somewhere where john Q public can walk by and see you in the buff , how much could you possibly really care about your privacy ?
Hey , if you do n't want people to know that you sit naked on your porch , stop doing it !
They can see you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Are you kidding me?!
If you are sitting out somewhere where john Q public can walk by and see you in the buff, how much could you possibly really care about your privacy?
Hey, if you don't want people to know that you sit naked on your porch, stop doing it!
They can see you!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290802</id>
	<title>Re:On the other hand</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1267179660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I haven't seen Obama quash any of my rights (yet; give him time), but Bush damned near ruined my country.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have n't seen Obama quash any of my rights ( yet ; give him time ) , but Bush damned near ruined my country .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I haven't seen Obama quash any of my rights (yet; give him time), but Bush damned near ruined my country.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290134</id>
	<title>If Google Was a Eurpopean Company...</title>
	<author>RobotRunAmok</author>
	<datestamp>1267176540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...Schmidt would have been fuckin' knighted for this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...Schmidt would have been fuckin ' knighted for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...Schmidt would have been fuckin' knighted for this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287972</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267210980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law, why shouldn't I be able to photograph it?</p></div><p>You should. You should not, however, be allowed to disseminate it, without the subject's consent.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law , why should n't I be able to photograph it ? You should .
You should not , however , be allowed to disseminate it , without the subject 's consent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law, why shouldn't I be able to photograph it?You should.
You should not, however, be allowed to disseminate it, without the subject's consent.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288308</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>Sheik Yerbouti</author>
	<datestamp>1267212060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may feel that way but your feelings don't give you or anyone else the right to violate the rights of others to take pictures in a public place. I am a photographer and I bristle at the suggestion you have that right. Only because a lot of cops and people post 9/11 think that for some reason they do have the right to stop someone taking photographs in a public place. And they do not. Google has a right to do this taking photographs in a public place is legal the EU as usual is harping on companies out of bounds.</p><p>I can't believe the hipocracy what with the thousands of surveillance cameras in EU member state Great Britain. There are actually people watching those specifically to violate the privacy of UK citizens where's the outrage there?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may feel that way but your feelings do n't give you or anyone else the right to violate the rights of others to take pictures in a public place .
I am a photographer and I bristle at the suggestion you have that right .
Only because a lot of cops and people post 9/11 think that for some reason they do have the right to stop someone taking photographs in a public place .
And they do not .
Google has a right to do this taking photographs in a public place is legal the EU as usual is harping on companies out of bounds.I ca n't believe the hipocracy what with the thousands of surveillance cameras in EU member state Great Britain .
There are actually people watching those specifically to violate the privacy of UK citizens where 's the outrage there ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may feel that way but your feelings don't give you or anyone else the right to violate the rights of others to take pictures in a public place.
I am a photographer and I bristle at the suggestion you have that right.
Only because a lot of cops and people post 9/11 think that for some reason they do have the right to stop someone taking photographs in a public place.
And they do not.
Google has a right to do this taking photographs in a public place is legal the EU as usual is harping on companies out of bounds.I can't believe the hipocracy what with the thousands of surveillance cameras in EU member state Great Britain.
There are actually people watching those specifically to violate the privacy of UK citizens where's the outrage there?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287892</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>CraftyJack</author>
	<datestamp>1267210680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I should look into copyrighting my house.  Maybe I'll paint text all over it, and then copyright that.<p><div class="quote"><p>I must be missing something here, cause I don't get it!</p></div><p>If there were a picture of my house in your personal photo albums, I would find that very weird.  If I found you outside my house taking pictures of it from the street, I would feel vaguely threatened and would want to know what your motives were.  If you told me that you were going to post them to make money and asserted your right to stand there taking pictures of my house, I would probably call the cops.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I should look into copyrighting my house .
Maybe I 'll paint text all over it , and then copyright that.I must be missing something here , cause I do n't get it ! If there were a picture of my house in your personal photo albums , I would find that very weird .
If I found you outside my house taking pictures of it from the street , I would feel vaguely threatened and would want to know what your motives were .
If you told me that you were going to post them to make money and asserted your right to stand there taking pictures of my house , I would probably call the cops .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I should look into copyrighting my house.
Maybe I'll paint text all over it, and then copyright that.I must be missing something here, cause I don't get it!If there were a picture of my house in your personal photo albums, I would find that very weird.
If I found you outside my house taking pictures of it from the street, I would feel vaguely threatened and would want to know what your motives were.
If you told me that you were going to post them to make money and asserted your right to stand there taking pictures of my house, I would probably call the cops.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31313806</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>Xest</author>
	<datestamp>1267444440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Sorry, but what the fuck? How did you comment get modded insightful? It's completely ignorant.
</p><p>
The EU doesn't control Britain, it can however lay down rulings against it if it doesn't comply with laws it has agreed to comply to as a member of the EU. The EU has no power to act against a member nation if a member nation is not breaking any EU rules or agreements. The EU has absolutely no blame in the state of Britain as a surveillance state.
</p><p>
The EU has however acted against Britain when the <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7998009.stm" title="bbc.co.uk">British government has allowed illegal interception of people's data</a> [bbc.co.uk]. It has acted to <a href="http://www.out-law.com/page-10244" title="out-law.com">rule against the UK on it's DNA database</a> [out-law.com]. It has moved to block <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/26/1412233/Europe-To-Block-ACTA-Disconnect-Provisions" title="slashdot.org">Britain and France's 3-strikes policy being supported globally by ACTA</a> [slashdot.org]. Now, it is moving to block street view from taking pictures without warning as this very article states, and is another ruling that runs counter to the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2009/apr/23/google-street-view-ok" title="guardian.co.uk">UK position on street view</a> [guardian.co.uk]
</p><p>
Now, I'm British, it's quite clear Europe is actually of net positive benefit with respect to privacy and rights, the real problem with the UK is the British government and the people that support it. Blaming the EU for the UK's problems is so utterly idiotic and ignorant, when it's quite clear the EU has done everything it can within it's power, to prevent the British government from further eroding the rights of British citizens. But here's the problem, most people in Britain are impartial to it, most of the people here are their own worst enemy.
</p><p>
If you want to blame anyone, blame the fuckwads that keep voting in Labour and the Tories over and over. Blame the idiots here who don't bat an eyelid when their government steals yet more fundamental rights away from them. Sure as hell don't blame the EU though, because it's the only entity with any power that actually does anything in our favour- certainly more so than the government of any member state, or of countries like the US, Australia and so forth.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but what the fuck ?
How did you comment get modded insightful ?
It 's completely ignorant .
The EU does n't control Britain , it can however lay down rulings against it if it does n't comply with laws it has agreed to comply to as a member of the EU .
The EU has no power to act against a member nation if a member nation is not breaking any EU rules or agreements .
The EU has absolutely no blame in the state of Britain as a surveillance state .
The EU has however acted against Britain when the British government has allowed illegal interception of people 's data [ bbc.co.uk ] .
It has acted to rule against the UK on it 's DNA database [ out-law.com ] .
It has moved to block Britain and France 's 3-strikes policy being supported globally by ACTA [ slashdot.org ] .
Now , it is moving to block street view from taking pictures without warning as this very article states , and is another ruling that runs counter to the UK position on street view [ guardian.co.uk ] Now , I 'm British , it 's quite clear Europe is actually of net positive benefit with respect to privacy and rights , the real problem with the UK is the British government and the people that support it .
Blaming the EU for the UK 's problems is so utterly idiotic and ignorant , when it 's quite clear the EU has done everything it can within it 's power , to prevent the British government from further eroding the rights of British citizens .
But here 's the problem , most people in Britain are impartial to it , most of the people here are their own worst enemy .
If you want to blame anyone , blame the fuckwads that keep voting in Labour and the Tories over and over .
Blame the idiots here who do n't bat an eyelid when their government steals yet more fundamental rights away from them .
Sure as hell do n't blame the EU though , because it 's the only entity with any power that actually does anything in our favour- certainly more so than the government of any member state , or of countries like the US , Australia and so forth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Sorry, but what the fuck?
How did you comment get modded insightful?
It's completely ignorant.
The EU doesn't control Britain, it can however lay down rulings against it if it doesn't comply with laws it has agreed to comply to as a member of the EU.
The EU has no power to act against a member nation if a member nation is not breaking any EU rules or agreements.
The EU has absolutely no blame in the state of Britain as a surveillance state.
The EU has however acted against Britain when the British government has allowed illegal interception of people's data [bbc.co.uk].
It has acted to rule against the UK on it's DNA database [out-law.com].
It has moved to block Britain and France's 3-strikes policy being supported globally by ACTA [slashdot.org].
Now, it is moving to block street view from taking pictures without warning as this very article states, and is another ruling that runs counter to the UK position on street view [guardian.co.uk]

Now, I'm British, it's quite clear Europe is actually of net positive benefit with respect to privacy and rights, the real problem with the UK is the British government and the people that support it.
Blaming the EU for the UK's problems is so utterly idiotic and ignorant, when it's quite clear the EU has done everything it can within it's power, to prevent the British government from further eroding the rights of British citizens.
But here's the problem, most people in Britain are impartial to it, most of the people here are their own worst enemy.
If you want to blame anyone, blame the fuckwads that keep voting in Labour and the Tories over and over.
Blame the idiots here who don't bat an eyelid when their government steals yet more fundamental rights away from them.
Sure as hell don't blame the EU though, because it's the only entity with any power that actually does anything in our favour- certainly more so than the government of any member state, or of countries like the US, Australia and so forth.
</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288022</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>mosb1000</author>
	<datestamp>1267211160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's right, that would be the fair thing to do.  Seriously, isn't universal application generally considered an extremely important aspect of maintaining The Rule of Law (TM)?</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's right , that would be the fair thing to do .
Seriously , is n't universal application generally considered an extremely important aspect of maintaining The Rule of Law ( TM ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's right, that would be the fair thing to do.
Seriously, isn't universal application generally considered an extremely important aspect of maintaining The Rule of Law (TM)?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288072</id>
	<title>Re:On the other hand</title>
	<author>paimin</author>
	<datestamp>1267211280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Blame the leaders if that makes you feel better, but we're the ones that give it up, like a $5 whore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Blame the leaders if that makes you feel better , but we 're the ones that give it up , like a $ 5 whore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Blame the leaders if that makes you feel better, but we're the ones that give it up, like a $5 whore.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287828</id>
	<title>Re:Police is investigating it too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267210440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>sitting on his back porch with his pants down. The man&rsquo;s face was blurred; however, his home and address were in plain view.</p></div></blockquote><p>Huh. People keep their homes in the oddest places.</p><p>(*drumbeat*)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>sitting on his back porch with his pants down .
The man    s face was blurred ; however , his home and address were in plain view.Huh .
People keep their homes in the oddest places .
( * drumbeat * )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>sitting on his back porch with his pants down.
The man’s face was blurred; however, his home and address were in plain view.Huh.
People keep their homes in the oddest places.
(*drumbeat*)
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287672</id>
	<title>On the other hand</title>
	<author>BadAnalogyGuy</author>
	<datestamp>1267209960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What a difference it is to hear about a government (or quasi-government) fight for the privacy rights of citizens.</p><p>Here in the Land of the Free, we've just about given up that right. Thanks Osama, you motherfucker. You too, Bush.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What a difference it is to hear about a government ( or quasi-government ) fight for the privacy rights of citizens.Here in the Land of the Free , we 've just about given up that right .
Thanks Osama , you motherfucker .
You too , Bush .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a difference it is to hear about a government (or quasi-government) fight for the privacy rights of citizens.Here in the Land of the Free, we've just about given up that right.
Thanks Osama, you motherfucker.
You too, Bush.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288802</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous Brave Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1267213800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1231149&amp;cid=27940549" title="slashdot.org">Here we go again.</a> [slashdot.org] </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here we go again .
[ slashdot.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext> Here we go again.
[slashdot.org] </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31296786</id>
	<title>Inisghtful? Hardly.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267287600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mods, the facts are that the European Courts have mandated a stop or serious modifications to the following:</p><p>- Terror laws that allow arrests without warrants and without allowing the accussed to know what the accustaions are (doh! only former Comunists don't se a problem with this, as are several members of the Labour party. What a surprise).</p><p>- Stop collecting DNA of innocent people when arrested (the UK police can take your DNA for pretty much whatever they want whenever you interact with them, the EU courts are mandated this to be stopped, the government has not complied).</p><p>and several others.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mods , the facts are that the European Courts have mandated a stop or serious modifications to the following : - Terror laws that allow arrests without warrants and without allowing the accussed to know what the accustaions are ( doh !
only former Comunists do n't se a problem with this , as are several members of the Labour party .
What a surprise ) .- Stop collecting DNA of innocent people when arrested ( the UK police can take your DNA for pretty much whatever they want whenever you interact with them , the EU courts are mandated this to be stopped , the government has not complied ) .and several others .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mods, the facts are that the European Courts have mandated a stop or serious modifications to the following:- Terror laws that allow arrests without warrants and without allowing the accussed to know what the accustaions are (doh!
only former Comunists don't se a problem with this, as are several members of the Labour party.
What a surprise).- Stop collecting DNA of innocent people when arrested (the UK police can take your DNA for pretty much whatever they want whenever you interact with them, the EU courts are mandated this to be stopped, the government has not complied).and several others.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287840</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>houghi</author>
	<datestamp>1267210500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Europa "Privacy" means much more then just "Things done on a private property".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Europa " Privacy " means much more then just " Things done on a private property " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Europa "Privacy" means much more then just "Things done on a private property".</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287616</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>WrongSizeGlass</author>
	<datestamp>1267209780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You know, the EU has a lot of nerve coming down on google for "privacy violations"; the same body who seems to have exactly no problem at all with Britain's blatant and constant violations, and they've <b>actually been a MEMBER of the EU since 1973</b>.</p></div><p>The EU has been around since <b>1973</b>? How in the world did they form <i>before</i> the internet was invented?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , the EU has a lot of nerve coming down on google for " privacy violations " ; the same body who seems to have exactly no problem at all with Britain 's blatant and constant violations , and they 've actually been a MEMBER of the EU since 1973.The EU has been around since 1973 ?
How in the world did they form before the internet was invented ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, the EU has a lot of nerve coming down on google for "privacy violations"; the same body who seems to have exactly no problem at all with Britain's blatant and constant violations, and they've actually been a MEMBER of the EU since 1973.The EU has been around since 1973?
How in the world did they form before the internet was invented?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290454</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>OverlordQ</author>
	<datestamp>1267178040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There are actually people watching those specifically to violate the privacy of UK citizens where's the outrage there?</i></p><p>Because Google is an American company.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are actually people watching those specifically to violate the privacy of UK citizens where 's the outrage there ? Because Google is an American company .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are actually people watching those specifically to violate the privacy of UK citizens where's the outrage there?Because Google is an American company.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288618</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>TheLink</author>
	<datestamp>1267213020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm guessing it's because the UK has lots of cameras especially in cities. London has thousands of CCTVs.</p><p>But of course that's different because the public don't get to see those camera recordings.</p><p>And they go conveniently blank/missing:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean\_Charles\_de\_Menezes#Missing\_CCTV\_footage" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean\_Charles\_de\_Menezes#Missing\_CCTV\_footage</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm guessing it 's because the UK has lots of cameras especially in cities .
London has thousands of CCTVs.But of course that 's different because the public do n't get to see those camera recordings.And they go conveniently blank/missing : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean \ _Charles \ _de \ _Menezes # Missing \ _CCTV \ _footage [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm guessing it's because the UK has lots of cameras especially in cities.
London has thousands of CCTVs.But of course that's different because the public don't get to see those camera recordings.And they go conveniently blank/missing:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean\_Charles\_de\_Menezes#Missing\_CCTV\_footage [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287494</id>
	<title>improvements in Google's blurring technology</title>
	<author>TerminaMorte</author>
	<datestamp>1267209420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"...improvements in Google's blurring technology"
<br> <br>
I love when governments make statements like this.
<br> <br>
"Fix this techy thing we have no idea about and make it better. Should be easy right?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...improvements in Google 's blurring technology " I love when governments make statements like this .
" Fix this techy thing we have no idea about and make it better .
Should be easy right ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...improvements in Google's blurring technology"
 
I love when governments make statements like this.
"Fix this techy thing we have no idea about and make it better.
Should be easy right?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288642</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>Anonymous Brave Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1267213140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You do realise that European-level courts <em>have</em> ruled several practices of the British government illegal, including some relating to privacy, in recent months? The fact that the government here is illegally failing to comply with those court rulings and getting away with it is disturbing, but what more would you have the EU do?</p><p>In any case, the British government at least has some degree of sovereignty and accountability to its electorate to contend with as a consequence. Google is a mere corporation, and contrary to the apparent expectations of some of its executives, it does not yet have the power to legislate itself above the law or to break the law with impunity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You do realise that European-level courts have ruled several practices of the British government illegal , including some relating to privacy , in recent months ?
The fact that the government here is illegally failing to comply with those court rulings and getting away with it is disturbing , but what more would you have the EU do ? In any case , the British government at least has some degree of sovereignty and accountability to its electorate to contend with as a consequence .
Google is a mere corporation , and contrary to the apparent expectations of some of its executives , it does not yet have the power to legislate itself above the law or to break the law with impunity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You do realise that European-level courts have ruled several practices of the British government illegal, including some relating to privacy, in recent months?
The fact that the government here is illegally failing to comply with those court rulings and getting away with it is disturbing, but what more would you have the EU do?In any case, the British government at least has some degree of sovereignty and accountability to its electorate to contend with as a consequence.
Google is a mere corporation, and contrary to the apparent expectations of some of its executives, it does not yet have the power to legislate itself above the law or to break the law with impunity.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288034</id>
	<title>It's different and here's why.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Driving or walking by and seeing something is one thing. But being able to "see" via a computer database is another. Why? Because it allows the tying in of <i>other</i> data <i>instantaneously</i> and it enables the viewer to make connections, insights, conclusions, prejudices or whatever that would not be possible by the casual looker.</p><p>Here's a precedent: the collection of data by the credit bureaus. <br>In the beginning, those organizations were designed to allow for easy credit - before you needed letters of recommendation and references. Now, that data is included by ChoicPoint/Lexus Nexus and now everyone is doing background checks on people - because it's so damn easy now. Nothing to hide and you're OK? Ha!</p><p>When you go for a job, for example, even if the position has nothing to do with handling money, the employers do a credit check at the minimum. Bad credit or a lot of debt, say from student loans, you are denied a position. Basically you are denied employment for getting an education. The same goes for flying - a lot of debt raises a yellow flag with the TSA - extra screening! Auto insurance. HEALTH insurance! Cell plans. The list goes on some more.....</p><p>The more information that's collected, the more people with access to that information have to use against you. That's the reality of life these days.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Driving or walking by and seeing something is one thing .
But being able to " see " via a computer database is another .
Why ? Because it allows the tying in of other data instantaneously and it enables the viewer to make connections , insights , conclusions , prejudices or whatever that would not be possible by the casual looker.Here 's a precedent : the collection of data by the credit bureaus .
In the beginning , those organizations were designed to allow for easy credit - before you needed letters of recommendation and references .
Now , that data is included by ChoicPoint/Lexus Nexus and now everyone is doing background checks on people - because it 's so damn easy now .
Nothing to hide and you 're OK ?
Ha ! When you go for a job , for example , even if the position has nothing to do with handling money , the employers do a credit check at the minimum .
Bad credit or a lot of debt , say from student loans , you are denied a position .
Basically you are denied employment for getting an education .
The same goes for flying - a lot of debt raises a yellow flag with the TSA - extra screening !
Auto insurance .
HEALTH insurance !
Cell plans .
The list goes on some more.....The more information that 's collected , the more people with access to that information have to use against you .
That 's the reality of life these days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Driving or walking by and seeing something is one thing.
But being able to "see" via a computer database is another.
Why? Because it allows the tying in of other data instantaneously and it enables the viewer to make connections, insights, conclusions, prejudices or whatever that would not be possible by the casual looker.Here's a precedent: the collection of data by the credit bureaus.
In the beginning, those organizations were designed to allow for easy credit - before you needed letters of recommendation and references.
Now, that data is included by ChoicPoint/Lexus Nexus and now everyone is doing background checks on people - because it's so damn easy now.
Nothing to hide and you're OK?
Ha!When you go for a job, for example, even if the position has nothing to do with handling money, the employers do a credit check at the minimum.
Bad credit or a lot of debt, say from student loans, you are denied a position.
Basically you are denied employment for getting an education.
The same goes for flying - a lot of debt raises a yellow flag with the TSA - extra screening!
Auto insurance.
HEALTH insurance!
Cell plans.
The list goes on some more.....The more information that's collected, the more people with access to that information have to use against you.
That's the reality of life these days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287516</id>
	<title>Photos in public</title>
	<author>JoshuaZ</author>
	<datestamp>1267209480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really don't see the philosophical or policy  basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit. What is visible in public should be photographable to the public. If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law, why shouldn't I be able to photograph it? And if I can do it for individual photos why shouldn't Google be able to do it systematically?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really do n't see the philosophical or policy basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit .
What is visible in public should be photographable to the public .
If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law , why should n't I be able to photograph it ?
And if I can do it for individual photos why should n't Google be able to do it systematically ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really don't see the philosophical or policy  basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit.
What is visible in public should be photographable to the public.
If I can see it with my eyes without violating a law, why shouldn't I be able to photograph it?
And if I can do it for individual photos why shouldn't Google be able to do it systematically?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31293648</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1267196220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What about people across the street? Tokyo is a pretty tall city....</htmltext>
<tokenext>What about people across the street ?
Tokyo is a pretty tall city... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What about people across the street?
Tokyo is a pretty tall city....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287460</id>
	<title>Police is investigating it too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267209300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's criminal investigations in Finland about Google Street view too, after <a href="http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2010/02/finnish\_police\_probe\_google\_for\_privacy\_breach\_1440671.html?origin=rss" title="yle.fi" rel="nofollow">a man was photographed nude in his back porch</a> [yle.fi] and another case when an underaged girl was photographed nude in beach and put in the Street view.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's criminal investigations in Finland about Google Street view too , after a man was photographed nude in his back porch [ yle.fi ] and another case when an underaged girl was photographed nude in beach and put in the Street view .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's criminal investigations in Finland about Google Street view too, after a man was photographed nude in his back porch [yle.fi] and another case when an underaged girl was photographed nude in beach and put in the Street view.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287966</id>
	<title>Re:improvements in Google's blurring technology</title>
	<author>mosb1000</author>
	<datestamp>1267210980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love it when the government writes a law forcing someone else to do something, then the government officials who drafted the law take credit for it.  Hilarious!  As if those idiots ever did anything other than sit around and talk!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love it when the government writes a law forcing someone else to do something , then the government officials who drafted the law take credit for it .
Hilarious ! As if those idiots ever did anything other than sit around and talk !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love it when the government writes a law forcing someone else to do something, then the government officials who drafted the law take credit for it.
Hilarious!  As if those idiots ever did anything other than sit around and talk!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31291934</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>Ma8thew</author>
	<datestamp>1267186080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The EU is not a federal government. Although their laws are technically legally binding unless the applicable government implements their laws there's really nothing they can do about it (especially when it concerns one of the more influential countries in the EU).</htmltext>
<tokenext>The EU is not a federal government .
Although their laws are technically legally binding unless the applicable government implements their laws there 's really nothing they can do about it ( especially when it concerns one of the more influential countries in the EU ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The EU is not a federal government.
Although their laws are technically legally binding unless the applicable government implements their laws there's really nothing they can do about it (especially when it concerns one of the more influential countries in the EU).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287514</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31296126</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>mjwalshe</author>
	<datestamp>1267277040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>quite London in particular has CCTV up the wazoo</htmltext>
<tokenext>quite London in particular has CCTV up the wazoo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>quite London in particular has CCTV up the wazoo</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289536</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1267216740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>It's not like they are photographing the insides of peoples houses. They are photographing the streets and outsides of peoples houses. </i></p><p>Inside, outside, leave me alone<br>Inside, outside, nowhere is home<br>Inside, outside, where have I been?<br>Out of my brain on the five fifteen.</p><p>--The Who, Quadrophenia</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not like they are photographing the insides of peoples houses .
They are photographing the streets and outsides of peoples houses .
Inside , outside , leave me aloneInside , outside , nowhere is homeInside , outside , where have I been ? Out of my brain on the five fifteen.--The Who , Quadrophenia</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like they are photographing the insides of peoples houses.
They are photographing the streets and outsides of peoples houses.
Inside, outside, leave me aloneInside, outside, nowhere is homeInside, outside, where have I been?Out of my brain on the five fifteen.--The Who, Quadrophenia</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288090</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So I suppose you're also opposed to turnitin as well?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So I suppose you 're also opposed to turnitin as well ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So I suppose you're also opposed to turnitin as well?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290258</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267177080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I should look into copyrighting my house.  Maybe I'll paint text all over it, and then copyright that.</p></div><p>How about an  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion\_constellation" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">anti-copy pattern</a> [wikipedia.org]?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I should look into copyrighting my house .
Maybe I 'll paint text all over it , and then copyright that.How about an anti-copy pattern [ wikipedia.org ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I should look into copyrighting my house.
Maybe I'll paint text all over it, and then copyright that.How about an  anti-copy pattern [wikipedia.org]?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287932</id>
	<title>Re:Police is investigating it too</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267210860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>.. If you are nude and visible to a street large enough for the street view van to drive down, I believe the illegal activity is yours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>.. If you are nude and visible to a street large enough for the street view van to drive down , I believe the illegal activity is yours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>.. If you are nude and visible to a street large enough for the street view van to drive down, I believe the illegal activity is yours.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287460</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31294994</id>
	<title>Re:Police is investigating it too</title>
	<author>mabhatter654</author>
	<datestamp>1267211040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The basic issue is that Google is SEVERELY IRRESPONSIBLE in their implementation of Street View. Driving around taking pictures isn't "illegal" but Google is running a BUSINESS with these picks, and they don't seem to do even basic vetting of the pictures before loading them for the whole internet to see.</p><p>If you or I drove around routinely putting up pictures of people like this we'd get in big trouble and "it's an automatic process" wouldn't help US at all.  I think they should go after the individual drivers (probably "private contractors") for taking money for the un-censored pictures.  That might scare them into censoring their own work.. like normal people have to.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The basic issue is that Google is SEVERELY IRRESPONSIBLE in their implementation of Street View .
Driving around taking pictures is n't " illegal " but Google is running a BUSINESS with these picks , and they do n't seem to do even basic vetting of the pictures before loading them for the whole internet to see.If you or I drove around routinely putting up pictures of people like this we 'd get in big trouble and " it 's an automatic process " would n't help US at all .
I think they should go after the individual drivers ( probably " private contractors " ) for taking money for the un-censored pictures .
That might scare them into censoring their own work.. like normal people have to .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The basic issue is that Google is SEVERELY IRRESPONSIBLE in their implementation of Street View.
Driving around taking pictures isn't "illegal" but Google is running a BUSINESS with these picks, and they don't seem to do even basic vetting of the pictures before loading them for the whole internet to see.If you or I drove around routinely putting up pictures of people like this we'd get in big trouble and "it's an automatic process" wouldn't help US at all.
I think they should go after the individual drivers (probably "private contractors") for taking money for the un-censored pictures.
That might scare them into censoring their own work.. like normal people have to.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288494</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267212600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suggest we make a mooning club.</p><p>That's where groups of people come together find out where the camera will be today, and drop their drawers when it comes by, then hop into a car and drive to the next spot to do it again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suggest we make a mooning club.That 's where groups of people come together find out where the camera will be today , and drop their drawers when it comes by , then hop into a car and drive to the next spot to do it again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suggest we make a mooning club.That's where groups of people come together find out where the camera will be today, and drop their drawers when it comes by, then hop into a car and drive to the next spot to do it again.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287516</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287548</id>
	<title>Oh for fsck sake!</title>
	<author>V!NCENT</author>
	<datestamp>1267209600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please try to come up with something more important than this! This absolutely rediculous because publishing a photo in a newspaper could also be an infringement of privacy!</p><p>Yes there are privacy concerns with Google, but please take some bigger issue asociated with Google than this!</p><p>Yes I am a big fan of Google. Yes I am using their services. No, I am also concerned about privacy when it comes to Google, just as much as any other info-indexing service..</p><p>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please try to come up with something more important than this !
This absolutely rediculous because publishing a photo in a newspaper could also be an infringement of privacy ! Yes there are privacy concerns with Google , but please take some bigger issue asociated with Google than this ! Yes I am a big fan of Google .
Yes I am using their services .
No , I am also concerned about privacy when it comes to Google , just as much as any other info-indexing service.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please try to come up with something more important than this!
This absolutely rediculous because publishing a photo in a newspaper could also be an infringement of privacy!Yes there are privacy concerns with Google, but please take some bigger issue asociated with Google than this!Yes I am a big fan of Google.
Yes I am using their services.
No, I am also concerned about privacy when it comes to Google, just as much as any other info-indexing service...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288942</id>
	<title>Re:how is the public private?</title>
	<author>joek1010</author>
	<datestamp>1267214400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Let's take it beyond just people with cameras. What about people with photographic memories? It should really be illegal for anyone to even look at your house, regardless of whether they're on public property.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Let 's take it beyond just people with cameras .
What about people with photographic memories ?
It should really be illegal for anyone to even look at your house , regardless of whether they 're on public property .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let's take it beyond just people with cameras.
What about people with photographic memories?
It should really be illegal for anyone to even look at your house, regardless of whether they're on public property.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287848</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267210500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>However, remember that the Google van has the camera a lot higher than what you could see walking on the street. For example there has been many cases where the camera has photographed inside peoples apartment or over garden walls, even people without clothes. If you went taking photos of someones backyard that is otherwise shield, you would be violating law. Same thing if you went taking pictures of someone through his/her window. Google is doing exactly this, on a mass scale, and then putting them on the internet for everyone to see.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>However , remember that the Google van has the camera a lot higher than what you could see walking on the street .
For example there has been many cases where the camera has photographed inside peoples apartment or over garden walls , even people without clothes .
If you went taking photos of someones backyard that is otherwise shield , you would be violating law .
Same thing if you went taking pictures of someone through his/her window .
Google is doing exactly this , on a mass scale , and then putting them on the internet for everyone to see .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>However, remember that the Google van has the camera a lot higher than what you could see walking on the street.
For example there has been many cases where the camera has photographed inside peoples apartment or over garden walls, even people without clothes.
If you went taking photos of someones backyard that is otherwise shield, you would be violating law.
Same thing if you went taking pictures of someone through his/her window.
Google is doing exactly this, on a mass scale, and then putting them on the internet for everyone to see.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287516</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287538</id>
	<title>how is the public private?</title>
	<author>josepha48</author>
	<datestamp>1267209600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's not like they are photographing the insides of peoples houses.  They are photographing the streets and outsides of peoples houses. So unless they are hopping over walls of gated communities we are talking public spaces here. I must be missing something here, cause I don't get it!  I can understand inside your house is your place, but outside your house is public space.  Well unless they have to drive up a private driveway to get pictures of the driveway and if that is the case, it should be marked private property.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not like they are photographing the insides of peoples houses .
They are photographing the streets and outsides of peoples houses .
So unless they are hopping over walls of gated communities we are talking public spaces here .
I must be missing something here , cause I do n't get it !
I can understand inside your house is your place , but outside your house is public space .
Well unless they have to drive up a private driveway to get pictures of the driveway and if that is the case , it should be marked private property .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not like they are photographing the insides of peoples houses.
They are photographing the streets and outsides of peoples houses.
So unless they are hopping over walls of gated communities we are talking public spaces here.
I must be missing something here, cause I don't get it!
I can understand inside your house is your place, but outside your house is public space.
Well unless they have to drive up a private driveway to get pictures of the driveway and if that is the case, it should be marked private property.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287514</id>
	<title>Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>yttrstein</author>
	<datestamp>1267209480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You know, the EU has a lot of nerve coming down on google for "privacy violations"; the same body who seems to have exactly no problem at all with Britain's blatant and constant violations, and they've actually been a MEMBER of the EU since 1973.<br><br>All politics, no substance, this.  Moot, meaningless, next.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You know , the EU has a lot of nerve coming down on google for " privacy violations " ; the same body who seems to have exactly no problem at all with Britain 's blatant and constant violations , and they 've actually been a MEMBER of the EU since 1973.All politics , no substance , this .
Moot , meaningless , next .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know, the EU has a lot of nerve coming down on google for "privacy violations"; the same body who seems to have exactly no problem at all with Britain's blatant and constant violations, and they've actually been a MEMBER of the EU since 1973.All politics, no substance, this.
Moot, meaningless, next.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288354</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>Haxamanish</author>
	<datestamp>1267212180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>How in the world did they (= the EU) form <i>before</i> the internet was invented?</p></div><p>Just look at the first date in my previous reply: Steampunk.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>How in the world did they ( = the EU ) form before the internet was invented ? Just look at the first date in my previous reply : Steampunk .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How in the world did they (= the EU) form before the internet was invented?Just look at the first date in my previous reply: Steampunk.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290706</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>icebraining</author>
	<datestamp>1267179240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As the Zen of Python says:</p><blockquote><div><p>Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.<br><b>Although practicality beats purity</b></p></div> </blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>As the Zen of Python says : Special cases are n't special enough to break the rules.Although practicality beats purity</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As the Zen of Python says:Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.Although practicality beats purity 
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288172</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Rhacman</author>
	<datestamp>1267211520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does that make it illegal to be the worlds tallest man?  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert\_Wadlow" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert\_Wadlow</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does that make it illegal to be the worlds tallest man ?
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert \ _Wadlow [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does that make it illegal to be the worlds tallest man?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert\_Wadlow [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289964</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Above</author>
	<datestamp>1267175880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The laws vary state to state, but in all states the maximum legal height for a standard vehicle is specified.  It ranges from 13'6" to 14'6".  Higher heights require a permit.</p><p>That means you may, on any given day, see a vehicle (double decker bus, monster truck, whatever) that is just under the maximum legal height, with someone's head at best a couple of feet lower.  Thus, if you don't want people to see into your back yard, I think you need a fence or other shield high enough that someone at up to 13'6" off the ground can't see in.</p><p>Still though, simply looking at most street view images will show you they aren't that high.  I suspect most are taken in the 8' - 10' off the road level, probably under the level that most delivery truck drivers sit at in large trucks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The laws vary state to state , but in all states the maximum legal height for a standard vehicle is specified .
It ranges from 13'6 " to 14'6 " .
Higher heights require a permit.That means you may , on any given day , see a vehicle ( double decker bus , monster truck , whatever ) that is just under the maximum legal height , with someone 's head at best a couple of feet lower .
Thus , if you do n't want people to see into your back yard , I think you need a fence or other shield high enough that someone at up to 13'6 " off the ground ca n't see in.Still though , simply looking at most street view images will show you they are n't that high .
I suspect most are taken in the 8 ' - 10 ' off the road level , probably under the level that most delivery truck drivers sit at in large trucks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The laws vary state to state, but in all states the maximum legal height for a standard vehicle is specified.
It ranges from 13'6" to 14'6".
Higher heights require a permit.That means you may, on any given day, see a vehicle (double decker bus, monster truck, whatever) that is just under the maximum legal height, with someone's head at best a couple of feet lower.
Thus, if you don't want people to see into your back yard, I think you need a fence or other shield high enough that someone at up to 13'6" off the ground can't see in.Still though, simply looking at most street view images will show you they aren't that high.
I suspect most are taken in the 8' - 10' off the road level, probably under the level that most delivery truck drivers sit at in large trucks.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290450</id>
	<title>Re:On the other hand</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267178040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one who first read the above as Obama?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one who first read the above as Obama ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one who first read the above as Obama?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31288686</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267213320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>What is visible in public should be photographable to the public</i></p><p><a href="http://tweetphoto.com/6734804" title="tweetphoto.com" rel="nofollow">Oh yeah?</a> [tweetphoto.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What is visible in public should be photographable to the publicOh yeah ?
[ tweetphoto.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is visible in public should be photographable to the publicOh yeah?
[tweetphoto.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31287710</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>aaaaaaargh!</author>
	<datestamp>1267210080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me guess, your argument is this: "Because the EU allows the UK to violate privacy so blatantly, it should also allow all other violations of privacy by any other person, company, or instituation."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me guess , your argument is this : " Because the EU allows the UK to violate privacy so blatantly , it should also allow all other violations of privacy by any other person , company , or instituation .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me guess, your argument is this: "Because the EU allows the UK to violate privacy so blatantly, it should also allow all other violations of privacy by any other person, company, or instituation.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31292292</id>
	<title>Re:Screw the EU's privacy concerns</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267187760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If I ran the stoplight at the last intersection, by your reasoning, I should continue to run red lights.</p><p>Not defending Britain's creepy camera system, I'm just pointing out that your debate technique is very much Glen Beck and doesn't really address the issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If I ran the stoplight at the last intersection , by your reasoning , I should continue to run red lights.Not defending Britain 's creepy camera system , I 'm just pointing out that your debate technique is very much Glen Beck and does n't really address the issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If I ran the stoplight at the last intersection, by your reasoning, I should continue to run red lights.Not defending Britain's creepy camera system, I'm just pointing out that your debate technique is very much Glen Beck and doesn't really address the issue.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31290048</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267176240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>COOL!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>COOL !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>COOL!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_175254.31289080</id>
	<title>Re:Photos in public</title>
	<author>westlake</author>
	<datestamp>1267214820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I really don't see the philosophical or policy basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit. What is visible in public should be photographable to the public.</i> </p><p>The neighborhood street was home to a kind of extended family.</p><p>It was a place for kids and dogs. The elderly who were no longer as agile or clear-headed as they once were. You see this thought idealized in the paintings of Norman Rockwell: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/x-ray\_delta\_one/3954897828/" title="flickr.com">Homecoming</a> [flickr.com] </p><p>The anonymous intruder with his hidden camera has never received such a welcome.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really do n't see the philosophical or policy basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit .
What is visible in public should be photographable to the public .
The neighborhood street was home to a kind of extended family.It was a place for kids and dogs .
The elderly who were no longer as agile or clear-headed as they once were .
You see this thought idealized in the paintings of Norman Rockwell : Homecoming [ flickr.com ] The anonymous intruder with his hidden camera has never received such a welcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really don't see the philosophical or policy basis for seeing this as something which privacy laws should prohibit.
What is visible in public should be photographable to the public.
The neighborhood street was home to a kind of extended family.It was a place for kids and dogs.
The elderly who were no longer as agile or clear-headed as they once were.
You see this thought idealized in the paintings of Norman Rockwell: Homecoming [flickr.com] The anonymous intruder with his hidden camera has never received such a welcome.</sentencetext>
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