<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_26_1738245</id>
	<title>Make Your Own Open Source Retro Arcade-Style Clock</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1267207860000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="mailto:pt@adafruit.com" rel="nofollow">ptorrone</a> writes <i>"<a href="http://www.ladyada.net/">Hardware hacker 'Ladyada'</a> has released an open source, retro, arcade-style, table-tennis-for-two clock called the <a href="http://www.ladyada.net/make/monochron/">MONOCHRON</a>. According to the <a href="http://www.ladyada.net/make/monochron/design.html">MONCHRON project page</a> the desire was 'to make a clock that was ultra-hackable, from adding a separate battery-backed RTC to designing the enclosure so you could program the clock once its assembled.' It includes an ATmega328 processor (with Arduino stk500 bootloader for easy hacking. It's <a href="http://www.ladyada.net/make/monochron/download.html">completely open source hardware</a>: all firmware, layout, and CAD files are yours to mess with."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>ptorrone writes " Hardware hacker 'Ladyada ' has released an open source , retro , arcade-style , table-tennis-for-two clock called the MONOCHRON .
According to the MONCHRON project page the desire was 'to make a clock that was ultra-hackable , from adding a separate battery-backed RTC to designing the enclosure so you could program the clock once its assembled .
' It includes an ATmega328 processor ( with Arduino stk500 bootloader for easy hacking .
It 's completely open source hardware : all firmware , layout , and CAD files are yours to mess with .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ptorrone writes "Hardware hacker 'Ladyada' has released an open source, retro, arcade-style, table-tennis-for-two clock called the MONOCHRON.
According to the MONCHRON project page the desire was 'to make a clock that was ultra-hackable, from adding a separate battery-backed RTC to designing the enclosure so you could program the clock once its assembled.
' It includes an ATmega328 processor (with Arduino stk500 bootloader for easy hacking.
It's completely open source hardware: all firmware, layout, and CAD files are yours to mess with.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31289658</id>
	<title>Re:The Lady is cool</title>
	<author>Threni</author>
	<datestamp>1267217400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; I love the things she dreams up</p><p>Someone else dreamt it up, years ago...</p><p><a href="http://mocoloco.com/archives/001766.php" title="mocoloco.com" rel="nofollow">http://mocoloco.com/archives/001766.php</a> [mocoloco.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I love the things she dreams upSomeone else dreamt it up , years ago...http : //mocoloco.com/archives/001766.php [ mocoloco.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; I love the things she dreams upSomeone else dreamt it up, years ago...http://mocoloco.com/archives/001766.php [mocoloco.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31288168</id>
	<title>Open sores sucks</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And Rob Malda's penis is so small that a toddler looks Mandingo in comparison.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And Rob Malda 's penis is so small that a toddler looks Mandingo in comparison .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And Rob Malda's penis is so small that a toddler looks Mandingo in comparison.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31289638</id>
	<title>Auto-sync</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267217340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone with an idea how hard this would be to set up with an auto-sync to the time broadcast out of Colorado?</p><p>Like these: http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p\_10151\_10104\_021W767769110001P?vName=For\%20the\%20Home&amp;cName=WallDecor&amp;sName=Clocks&amp;psid=FROOGLE&amp;sid=KDx20070926x00003a</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone with an idea how hard this would be to set up with an auto-sync to the time broadcast out of Colorado ? Like these : http : //www.kmart.com/shc/s/p \ _10151 \ _10104 \ _021W767769110001P ? vName = For \ % 20the \ % 20Home&amp;cName = WallDecor&amp;sName = Clocks&amp;psid = FROOGLE&amp;sid = KDx20070926x00003a</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone with an idea how hard this would be to set up with an auto-sync to the time broadcast out of Colorado?Like these: http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p\_10151\_10104\_021W767769110001P?vName=For\%20the\%20Home&amp;cName=WallDecor&amp;sName=Clocks&amp;psid=FROOGLE&amp;sid=KDx20070926x00003a</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31290170</id>
	<title>Bullshit binspam!</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1267176720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And this chick is nuts.</p><p>"<a href="http://www.ladyada.net/techproj/freshair/index.html" title="ladyada.net" rel="nofollow">Fresh Air</a> [ladyada.net]"?!</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr><i>...intended for city-dwellers who feel that their personal space is being overrun with undesired radio transmissions...for cleaning up the air around the user.</i></p><p>*sigh* poor old Slashdot... just another sign of the times we live in</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And this chick is nuts .
" Fresh Air [ ladyada.net ] " ? !
...intended for city-dwellers who feel that their personal space is being overrun with undesired radio transmissions...for cleaning up the air around the user .
* sigh * poor old Slashdot... just another sign of the times we live in</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And this chick is nuts.
"Fresh Air [ladyada.net]"?!
...intended for city-dwellers who feel that their personal space is being overrun with undesired radio transmissions...for cleaning up the air around the user.
*sigh* poor old Slashdot... just another sign of the times we live in</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31290208</id>
	<title>Re:Touch panel pong?</title>
	<author>Lershac</author>
	<datestamp>1267176900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How funny is it that the time in the video was changing to 4:20?  haha, marketing to the stoners</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How funny is it that the time in the video was changing to 4 : 20 ?
haha , marketing to the stoners</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How funny is it that the time in the video was changing to 4:20?
haha, marketing to the stoners</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31288522</id>
	<title>Ever since Tiger came out...</title>
	<author>Tau Neutrino</author>
	<datestamp>1267212660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I've had a Dashboard widget that does exactly this.<br> <br>

Life imitates Apple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've had a Dashboard widget that does exactly this .
Life imitates Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've had a Dashboard widget that does exactly this.
Life imitates Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31291978</id>
	<title>Pong Clock? Is it 2005?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267186320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pong clock:<br>http://mocoloco.com/archives/001766.php</p><p>This was all over Slashdot in 2005, remember?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pong clock : http : //mocoloco.com/archives/001766.phpThis was all over Slashdot in 2005 , remember ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pong clock:http://mocoloco.com/archives/001766.phpThis was all over Slashdot in 2005, remember?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31289100</id>
	<title>Good framework</title>
	<author>Seakip18</author>
	<datestamp>1267214880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The nice thing about this kit is that it's just begging to be used for more stuff.</p><p>Want to get the temperature? No problem. There are three open digital pins, and you can probably do trade offs to get other stuff to work.</p><p>Adding the sensor to the clock pcb and add the needed code to clock is easy. Most of the 1-wire libraries are avaliable, making the coding a trivial task.</p><p>You can use it as a jumping off point to even more stuff.</p><p>At $80, it's a bit expensive, but there's nothing stopping you from taking the plans and making your own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The nice thing about this kit is that it 's just begging to be used for more stuff.Want to get the temperature ?
No problem .
There are three open digital pins , and you can probably do trade offs to get other stuff to work.Adding the sensor to the clock pcb and add the needed code to clock is easy .
Most of the 1-wire libraries are avaliable , making the coding a trivial task.You can use it as a jumping off point to even more stuff.At $ 80 , it 's a bit expensive , but there 's nothing stopping you from taking the plans and making your own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The nice thing about this kit is that it's just begging to be used for more stuff.Want to get the temperature?
No problem.
There are three open digital pins, and you can probably do trade offs to get other stuff to work.Adding the sensor to the clock pcb and add the needed code to clock is easy.
Most of the 1-wire libraries are avaliable, making the coding a trivial task.You can use it as a jumping off point to even more stuff.At $80, it's a bit expensive, but there's nothing stopping you from taking the plans and making your own.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31294548</id>
	<title>Pong clock, pong watch!</title>
	<author>BillX</author>
	<datestamp>1267204800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cool! This reminds me of John Maushammer's <a href="http://www.maushammer.com/systems/Watch/Introduction.html" title="maushammer.com">Pong Watch</a> [maushammer.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cool !
This reminds me of John Maushammer 's Pong Watch [ maushammer.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cool!
This reminds me of John Maushammer's Pong Watch [maushammer.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31290090</id>
	<title>Re:The Lady is cool</title>
	<author>j\_kenpo</author>
	<datestamp>1267176360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have to agree. Between her and the NerdKits guys, I get my fair share of electronic hobby kits to keep me entertained. Although the Replica-One is one kit that neither offers, and I can't wait to put together.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have to agree .
Between her and the NerdKits guys , I get my fair share of electronic hobby kits to keep me entertained .
Although the Replica-One is one kit that neither offers , and I ca n't wait to put together .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have to agree.
Between her and the NerdKits guys, I get my fair share of electronic hobby kits to keep me entertained.
Although the Replica-One is one kit that neither offers, and I can't wait to put together.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31288182</id>
	<title>I did something like this as a student</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No, I'm lying. I spent most of my free time at parties.</p><p>But hey, that's pretty cool, man!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No , I 'm lying .
I spent most of my free time at parties.But hey , that 's pretty cool , man !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No, I'm lying.
I spent most of my free time at parties.But hey, that's pretty cool, man!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31290526</id>
	<title>Re:The Lady is cool</title>
	<author>shar303</author>
	<datestamp>1267178280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>a friend of mine modded a tv-bgone so that it was triggered whenever the noise reached a certain level. he also boosted the ir output to a ridiculous extent.</p><p>he would secrete it in a big pub somewhere and wait till the footy match started up. as soon as the crowd cheered - zap.</p><p>we always wondered how it was the sports fans present never made the connection - they just assumed it was bad luck that the set always conked out at a really exciting bit.</p><p>great times!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>a friend of mine modded a tv-bgone so that it was triggered whenever the noise reached a certain level .
he also boosted the ir output to a ridiculous extent.he would secrete it in a big pub somewhere and wait till the footy match started up .
as soon as the crowd cheered - zap.we always wondered how it was the sports fans present never made the connection - they just assumed it was bad luck that the set always conked out at a really exciting bit.great times !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a friend of mine modded a tv-bgone so that it was triggered whenever the noise reached a certain level.
he also boosted the ir output to a ridiculous extent.he would secrete it in a big pub somewhere and wait till the footy match started up.
as soon as the crowd cheered - zap.we always wondered how it was the sports fans present never made the connection - they just assumed it was bad luck that the set always conked out at a really exciting bit.great times!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31288486</id>
	<title>Quote on the bottom of the page...</title>
	<author>Known Nutter</author>
	<datestamp>1267212600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." -- Ford Prefect, \_Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy\_</i> <br> <br>Brilliant! And matches my sig...</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Time is an illusion .
Lunchtime doubly so .
" -- Ford Prefect , \ _Hitchhiker 's Guide to the Galaxy \ _ Brilliant !
And matches my sig.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Time is an illusion.
Lunchtime doubly so.
" -- Ford Prefect, \_Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy\_  Brilliant!
And matches my sig...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31288364</id>
	<title>Ummm ...</title>
	<author>WrongSizeGlass</author>
	<datestamp>1267212240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't want to know what time it is <b>bad enough</b> to make my own clock. But if I ever do, I have some old pans around here for making one out of a lemon or a potato.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want to know what time it is bad enough to make my own clock .
But if I ever do , I have some old pans around here for making one out of a lemon or a potato .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want to know what time it is bad enough to make my own clock.
But if I ever do, I have some old pans around here for making one out of a lemon or a potato.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31289534</id>
	<title>Open Source Hardware?  I do not agree.</title>
	<author>ah13</author>
	<datestamp>1267216740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Neat project, but I wouldn't call this project "open source hardware".</p><p>I took a look at the schematic and PCB for this project and they are not in an open source friendly format.  As far as I can tell they are in a highly proprietary format (Eagle's closed  and undocumented format).  Eagle is not open source by any stretch of the imagination.  The no-cost version of Eagle is crippleware (limited in capability, closed source, lacking file format transparency and portability, and not for commercial development).</p><p>So, how can you create open source hardware by using non-open source software?  It is hard to "mess" with CAD/PCB/schematic files that cannot be edited with open source software.</p><p>The phrase "open source hardware" is being slowly hijacked to mean something completely else.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-(</p><p>--<br>Full disclaimer:  I am developer on the gEDA project.  Really I don't care if you use gEDA, KiCad, XCircuit, whatever, just use something that isn't closed.  And please don't call projects that use Eagle as "open source hardware".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Neat project , but I would n't call this project " open source hardware " .I took a look at the schematic and PCB for this project and they are not in an open source friendly format .
As far as I can tell they are in a highly proprietary format ( Eagle 's closed and undocumented format ) .
Eagle is not open source by any stretch of the imagination .
The no-cost version of Eagle is crippleware ( limited in capability , closed source , lacking file format transparency and portability , and not for commercial development ) .So , how can you create open source hardware by using non-open source software ?
It is hard to " mess " with CAD/PCB/schematic files that can not be edited with open source software.The phrase " open source hardware " is being slowly hijacked to mean something completely else .
: - ( --Full disclaimer : I am developer on the gEDA project .
Really I do n't care if you use gEDA , KiCad , XCircuit , whatever , just use something that is n't closed .
And please do n't call projects that use Eagle as " open source hardware " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Neat project, but I wouldn't call this project "open source hardware".I took a look at the schematic and PCB for this project and they are not in an open source friendly format.
As far as I can tell they are in a highly proprietary format (Eagle's closed  and undocumented format).
Eagle is not open source by any stretch of the imagination.
The no-cost version of Eagle is crippleware (limited in capability, closed source, lacking file format transparency and portability, and not for commercial development).So, how can you create open source hardware by using non-open source software?
It is hard to "mess" with CAD/PCB/schematic files that cannot be edited with open source software.The phrase "open source hardware" is being slowly hijacked to mean something completely else.
:-(--Full disclaimer:  I am developer on the gEDA project.
Really I don't care if you use gEDA, KiCad, XCircuit, whatever, just use something that isn't closed.
And please don't call projects that use Eagle as "open source hardware".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31290350</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source Hardware? I do not agree.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267177620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's still open source hardware buddy, stop whining.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's still open source hardware buddy , stop whining .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's still open source hardware buddy, stop whining.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31290164</id>
	<title>Re:The Lady is cool</title>
	<author>WillDraven</author>
	<datestamp>1267176720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Being a moron and going to sports bars when you don't want loud TVs around you, and trying to impose your will upon other customers who came there <b>to watch TV</b> can get you kicked out of sports bars and beaten senseless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Being a moron and going to sports bars when you do n't want loud TVs around you , and trying to impose your will upon other customers who came there to watch TV can get you kicked out of sports bars and beaten senseless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being a moron and going to sports bars when you don't want loud TVs around you, and trying to impose your will upon other customers who came there to watch TV can get you kicked out of sports bars and beaten senseless.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31288212</id>
	<title>Touch panel pong?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>When will it get an app store?</htmltext>
<tokenext>When will it get an app store ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When will it get an app store?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31290238</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source Hardware? I do not agree.</title>
	<author>Seakip18</author>
	<datestamp>1267177020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you want folks to use something that isn't "closed", then make it better than Eagle and have documentation that shows us how to make better stuff with it.</p><p>Right now, I can download eagle, find a bunch of "directed at n00bs" guides that take baby steps to end up at a fully functioning ready-to-send-off set of files. <a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/Draw-Electronic-Schematics-with-CadSoft-EAGLE/" title="instructables.com">Just</a> [instructables.com] <a href="http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/tutorial\_info.php?tutorials\_id=108" title="sparkfun.com">look</a> [sparkfun.com] <a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn-your-EAGLE-schematic-into-a-PCB/" title="instructables.com">around</a> [instructables.com].</p><p>gEDA's website, on the other hand, has three links to tutorials, two of which are broken, and one that breezes through a lot of things. You want folks to use it? Cater to the baby steps and release good guides.</p><p>As a side note, there is plenty of <a href="http://www.ladyada.net/make/monochron/design.html" title="ladyada.net">images of the schematics</a> [ladyada.net] for this project. You don't need eagle for that.</p><p>The logic of the hardware is free for anyone to use. There is nothing stopping you or me from taking her work and cranking monchrons out in our own form.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you want folks to use something that is n't " closed " , then make it better than Eagle and have documentation that shows us how to make better stuff with it.Right now , I can download eagle , find a bunch of " directed at n00bs " guides that take baby steps to end up at a fully functioning ready-to-send-off set of files .
Just [ instructables.com ] look [ sparkfun.com ] around [ instructables.com ] .gEDA 's website , on the other hand , has three links to tutorials , two of which are broken , and one that breezes through a lot of things .
You want folks to use it ?
Cater to the baby steps and release good guides.As a side note , there is plenty of images of the schematics [ ladyada.net ] for this project .
You do n't need eagle for that.The logic of the hardware is free for anyone to use .
There is nothing stopping you or me from taking her work and cranking monchrons out in our own form .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you want folks to use something that isn't "closed", then make it better than Eagle and have documentation that shows us how to make better stuff with it.Right now, I can download eagle, find a bunch of "directed at n00bs" guides that take baby steps to end up at a fully functioning ready-to-send-off set of files.
Just [instructables.com] look [sparkfun.com] around [instructables.com].gEDA's website, on the other hand, has three links to tutorials, two of which are broken, and one that breezes through a lot of things.
You want folks to use it?
Cater to the baby steps and release good guides.As a side note, there is plenty of images of the schematics [ladyada.net] for this project.
You don't need eagle for that.The logic of the hardware is free for anyone to use.
There is nothing stopping you or me from taking her work and cranking monchrons out in our own form.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31292116</id>
	<title>I did something like this as a student</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267186980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Until we can return to the innovation and diversity of personal computers from the 1980s the modern computer is little different than an appliance. The glory days of Radio Shack / Tandy, Commodore, Timex, et al. were the best years for technology hobbyists and professions alike. Hell, bring back the 1980s in its entirety and freeze time.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Until we can return to the innovation and diversity of personal computers from the 1980s the modern computer is little different than an appliance .
The glory days of Radio Shack / Tandy , Commodore , Timex , et al .
were the best years for technology hobbyists and professions alike .
Hell , bring back the 1980s in its entirety and freeze time .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Until we can return to the innovation and diversity of personal computers from the 1980s the modern computer is little different than an appliance.
The glory days of Radio Shack / Tandy, Commodore, Timex, et al.
were the best years for technology hobbyists and professions alike.
Hell, bring back the 1980s in its entirety and freeze time.
;)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31295028</id>
	<title>Re:Open Source Hardware? I do not agree.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You are absolutely correct.  "Open Source" is pointless unless anyone can read and make changes and contribute those changes back.   If you use Eagle then only a very few can make changes.</p><p>Open Source projects really should use free tools.  Either that or don't use the words "Open Source".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You are absolutely correct .
" Open Source " is pointless unless anyone can read and make changes and contribute those changes back .
If you use Eagle then only a very few can make changes.Open Source projects really should use free tools .
Either that or do n't use the words " Open Source " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are absolutely correct.
"Open Source" is pointless unless anyone can read and make changes and contribute those changes back.
If you use Eagle then only a very few can make changes.Open Source projects really should use free tools.
Either that or don't use the words "Open Source".</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Open Source Hardware? I do not agree.</title>
	<author>ptorrone</author>
	<datestamp>1267175940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>it doesn't matter what tools to make to create open source hardware, the computer you are using isn't 100\% open source, so does that mean you can't write open source software?</p><p>the gerbers are posted, the schematic and source is posted.</p><p>open source hardware means you can make it by using all the things published and commercial use is allowed, it's obvious that ladyada is doing open source hardware - and has for years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>it does n't matter what tools to make to create open source hardware , the computer you are using is n't 100 \ % open source , so does that mean you ca n't write open source software ? the gerbers are posted , the schematic and source is posted.open source hardware means you can make it by using all the things published and commercial use is allowed , it 's obvious that ladyada is doing open source hardware - and has for years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it doesn't matter what tools to make to create open source hardware, the computer you are using isn't 100\% open source, so does that mean you can't write open source software?the gerbers are posted, the schematic and source is posted.open source hardware means you can make it by using all the things published and commercial use is allowed, it's obvious that ladyada is doing open source hardware - and has for years.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31289982</id>
	<title>Is everything open source now?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267175940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Completely Open Source Hardware"? Sounds like a code-phrase for "here's the schematic, guys."</p><p>Great idea, and happy to see it, but waving the big "open source" flag over nearly everything that isn't for sale is getting silly. When are we going to start referring to manuals as "open source training?"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Completely Open Source Hardware " ?
Sounds like a code-phrase for " here 's the schematic , guys .
" Great idea , and happy to see it , but waving the big " open source " flag over nearly everything that is n't for sale is getting silly .
When are we going to start referring to manuals as " open source training ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Completely Open Source Hardware"?
Sounds like a code-phrase for "here's the schematic, guys.
"Great idea, and happy to see it, but waving the big "open source" flag over nearly everything that isn't for sale is getting silly.
When are we going to start referring to manuals as "open source training?
"</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:The Lady is cool</title>
	<author>maxume</author>
	<datestamp>1267214520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Turning off the televisions at a sports bar? If you actively desire to piss people off, you could spit in their food without having to build anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Turning off the televisions at a sports bar ?
If you actively desire to piss people off , you could spit in their food without having to build anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Turning off the televisions at a sports bar?
If you actively desire to piss people off, you could spit in their food without having to build anything.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Not exactly new...</title>
	<author>paulczy</author>
	<datestamp>1267217640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was lucky enough to get one of those before they were told to stop selling them because of Pong copyright violations. <a href="http://www.retrotogo.com/2009/11/ebay-watch-pong-clock-by-buro-vormkrijgers-.html" title="retrotogo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.retrotogo.com/2009/11/ebay-watch-pong-clock-by-buro-vormkrijgers-.html</a> [retrotogo.com] It's hanging on the wall behind me right now. Maybe I'll keep it as a retirement fund<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) I wonder how long this one has before it suffers the same fate?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was lucky enough to get one of those before they were told to stop selling them because of Pong copyright violations .
http : //www.retrotogo.com/2009/11/ebay-watch-pong-clock-by-buro-vormkrijgers-.html [ retrotogo.com ] It 's hanging on the wall behind me right now .
Maybe I 'll keep it as a retirement fund : ) I wonder how long this one has before it suffers the same fate ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was lucky enough to get one of those before they were told to stop selling them because of Pong copyright violations.
http://www.retrotogo.com/2009/11/ebay-watch-pong-clock-by-buro-vormkrijgers-.html [retrotogo.com] It's hanging on the wall behind me right now.
Maybe I'll keep it as a retirement fund :) I wonder how long this one has before it suffers the same fate?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Did retro style arcades even have clocks?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267212780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When I used to frequent arcades back in the eighties, I don't think the had clocks around the place, it was pretty much filled with game consoles.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When I used to frequent arcades back in the eighties , I do n't think the had clocks around the place , it was pretty much filled with game consoles .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When I used to frequent arcades back in the eighties, I don't think the had clocks around the place, it was pretty much filled with game consoles.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Hackable? Pfft!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267214940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Does it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Not exactly new...</title>
	<author>pushing-robot</author>
	<datestamp>1267213080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://boingboing.net/2005/11/25/pong-clock-plays-one.html" title="boingboing.net">http://boingboing.net/2005/11/25/pong-clock-plays-one.html</a> [boingboing.net]</p><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...but it's open source now.  Good job.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //boingboing.net/2005/11/25/pong-clock-plays-one.html [ boingboing.net ] ...but it 's open source now .
Good job .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://boingboing.net/2005/11/25/pong-clock-plays-one.html [boingboing.net] ...but it's open source now.
Good job.</sentencetext>
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	<title>I hate to bash on gEDA</title>
	<author>Weaselmancer</author>
	<datestamp>1267180440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But since I might possibly have the ear of a dev there, this seems like a good place to discuss things.

</p><p>I love the idea of gEDA.  I really do.  There is a definite need for such a project.  But <b>Seakip18</b> is right.  The lack of documentation makes it nearly unusable.  I can't say if it's a good program or not because it isn't terribly welcoming to new users.  I simply don't have the free time to puzzle it out.

</p><p>Eagle on the other hand, is welcoming to new users.  It is intuitive, documentation is good, you can get up and running with it pretty quick.  It is easy to use.

</p><p>If your vision of "open source hardware" means "open source hardware tools were used", it's within your power to make that happen.  Give the world an on-ramp to using gEDA by writing some good documentation.  Make a beginners interface that looks Eagle-ish.  Write tutorials.  Do something to make the tools more usable and the rest will take care of itself.

</p><p>Apologies for the off-topic rant, but I can't pass up an opportunity like this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But since I might possibly have the ear of a dev there , this seems like a good place to discuss things .
I love the idea of gEDA .
I really do .
There is a definite need for such a project .
But Seakip18 is right .
The lack of documentation makes it nearly unusable .
I ca n't say if it 's a good program or not because it is n't terribly welcoming to new users .
I simply do n't have the free time to puzzle it out .
Eagle on the other hand , is welcoming to new users .
It is intuitive , documentation is good , you can get up and running with it pretty quick .
It is easy to use .
If your vision of " open source hardware " means " open source hardware tools were used " , it 's within your power to make that happen .
Give the world an on-ramp to using gEDA by writing some good documentation .
Make a beginners interface that looks Eagle-ish .
Write tutorials .
Do something to make the tools more usable and the rest will take care of itself .
Apologies for the off-topic rant , but I ca n't pass up an opportunity like this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But since I might possibly have the ear of a dev there, this seems like a good place to discuss things.
I love the idea of gEDA.
I really do.
There is a definite need for such a project.
But Seakip18 is right.
The lack of documentation makes it nearly unusable.
I can't say if it's a good program or not because it isn't terribly welcoming to new users.
I simply don't have the free time to puzzle it out.
Eagle on the other hand, is welcoming to new users.
It is intuitive, documentation is good, you can get up and running with it pretty quick.
It is easy to use.
If your vision of "open source hardware" means "open source hardware tools were used", it's within your power to make that happen.
Give the world an on-ramp to using gEDA by writing some good documentation.
Make a beginners interface that looks Eagle-ish.
Write tutorials.
Do something to make the tools more usable and the rest will take care of itself.
Apologies for the off-topic rant, but I can't pass up an opportunity like this.</sentencetext>
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	<title>The Lady is cool</title>
	<author>icebike</author>
	<datestamp>1267212840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I love the things she dreams up and the level of detail she puts into the explanations.  I've built a few of her kits, the "Minty Boost" being the one I use most.  Warning, TV-B-gone can get you kicked out of sports bars and beaten senseless.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I love the things she dreams up and the level of detail she puts into the explanations .
I 've built a few of her kits , the " Minty Boost " being the one I use most .
Warning , TV-B-gone can get you kicked out of sports bars and beaten senseless .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love the things she dreams up and the level of detail she puts into the explanations.
I've built a few of her kits, the "Minty Boost" being the one I use most.
Warning, TV-B-gone can get you kicked out of sports bars and beaten senseless.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Open Source Hardware? I do not agree.</title>
	<author>ah13</author>
	<datestamp>1267209480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>One more follow up here...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>open source hardware means you can make it by using all the things published and <b>commercial use</b> is allowed, it's obvious that ladyada is doing open source hardware - and has for years.</p></div><p>Hmmm, I'm confused.  From the Eagle website (cadsoftusa.com/freeware.htm):</p><p><div class="quote"><p>The EAGLE Light Edition can be used for free!</p><p>Limitations<br><nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>Use is limited to non-profit applications or evaluation purposes.</p></div><p>You are not allowed to use the crippleware version of Eagle for profit/commercial projects.  Now if I want to modify/respin the posted schematics/PCBs for a commercial project, I have to either purchase Eagle or redraw the schematics in something else.  So not only am I locked into a closed source tool, I have to purchase it too if I am doing a commercial product with this "open source hardware" design.  Are these the correct conclusion(s)?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>One more follow up here...open source hardware means you can make it by using all the things published and commercial use is allowed , it 's obvious that ladyada is doing open source hardware - and has for years.Hmmm , I 'm confused .
From the Eagle website ( cadsoftusa.com/freeware.htm ) : The EAGLE Light Edition can be used for free ! Limitations ...Use is limited to non-profit applications or evaluation purposes.You are not allowed to use the crippleware version of Eagle for profit/commercial projects .
Now if I want to modify/respin the posted schematics/PCBs for a commercial project , I have to either purchase Eagle or redraw the schematics in something else .
So not only am I locked into a closed source tool , I have to purchase it too if I am doing a commercial product with this " open source hardware " design .
Are these the correct conclusion ( s ) ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One more follow up here...open source hardware means you can make it by using all the things published and commercial use is allowed, it's obvious that ladyada is doing open source hardware - and has for years.Hmmm, I'm confused.
From the Eagle website (cadsoftusa.com/freeware.htm):The EAGLE Light Edition can be used for free!Limitations ...Use is limited to non-profit applications or evaluation purposes.You are not allowed to use the crippleware version of Eagle for profit/commercial projects.
Now if I want to modify/respin the posted schematics/PCBs for a commercial project, I have to either purchase Eagle or redraw the schematics in something else.
So not only am I locked into a closed source tool, I have to purchase it too if I am doing a commercial product with this "open source hardware" design.
Are these the correct conclusion(s)?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31289746</id>
	<title>Her spokePOV project rocks!</title>
	<author>bensch128</author>
	<datestamp>1267217880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I agree 100\%. I love her kits. especially the SpokePOV.</p><p>Ladyada, if you are listening, please please please release a kit for a full RGB SpokePOV. The monochome version is awesome so an RGB version would be 3x better!! heh</p><p>also, instead of having separate magnetic sensor for each spoke, it would be easier to have one sensor and wire the spokes together so they are guaranteed to be synchronized.<br>I guess the design would have to change so the user has to program in the angle between the spokes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I agree 100 \ % .
I love her kits .
especially the SpokePOV.Ladyada , if you are listening , please please please release a kit for a full RGB SpokePOV .
The monochome version is awesome so an RGB version would be 3x better ! !
hehalso , instead of having separate magnetic sensor for each spoke , it would be easier to have one sensor and wire the spokes together so they are guaranteed to be synchronized.I guess the design would have to change so the user has to program in the angle between the spokes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I agree 100\%.
I love her kits.
especially the SpokePOV.Ladyada, if you are listening, please please please release a kit for a full RGB SpokePOV.
The monochome version is awesome so an RGB version would be 3x better!!
hehalso, instead of having separate magnetic sensor for each spoke, it would be easier to have one sensor and wire the spokes together so they are guaranteed to be synchronized.I guess the design would have to change so the user has to program in the angle between the spokes.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_26_1738245.31288366</id>
	<title>Right side wins...again</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267212240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think that the right side is a better player.<br>But I must argue that the handicap given to the left side (reset score to 0, after 23) is a tad unfair.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think that the right side is a better player.But I must argue that the handicap given to the left side ( reset score to 0 , after 23 ) is a tad unfair .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think that the right side is a better player.But I must argue that the handicap given to the left side (reset score to 0, after 23) is a tad unfair.</sentencetext>
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