<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_25_1619203</id>
	<title>Hollywood Treats Hackers Pretty Well</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1267120680000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/" rel="nofollow">angry tapir</a> writes <i>"According to Damian Gordon, a lecturer at the Dublin Institute of Technology, <a href="http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/337522">hackers are treated pretty well by movie-makers</a>. Gordon studied 50 movies, produced over five decades, to help write an academic paper for the International Journal of Internet Technology and Secured Transactions. The results amazed him. In the movies, most hackers aren't teenaged whiz-kids. They're professionals, over 30 years old, who work in IT."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>angry tapir writes " According to Damian Gordon , a lecturer at the Dublin Institute of Technology , hackers are treated pretty well by movie-makers .
Gordon studied 50 movies , produced over five decades , to help write an academic paper for the International Journal of Internet Technology and Secured Transactions .
The results amazed him .
In the movies , most hackers are n't teenaged whiz-kids .
They 're professionals , over 30 years old , who work in IT .
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<sentencetext>angry tapir writes "According to Damian Gordon, a lecturer at the Dublin Institute of Technology, hackers are treated pretty well by movie-makers.
Gordon studied 50 movies, produced over five decades, to help write an academic paper for the International Journal of Internet Technology and Secured Transactions.
The results amazed him.
In the movies, most hackers aren't teenaged whiz-kids.
They're professionals, over 30 years old, who work in IT.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274994</id>
	<title>Hollywood isn't reality - we want it that way</title>
	<author>LockeOnLogic</author>
	<datestamp>1267125060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who would you rather watch on screen? A pudgy thirtysomething typing code in a dark room
or a bunch of really attractive young people?
<br> <br>Hollywood figured this out a long time ago. If we are going to stare at a screen for two hours we want eye candy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who would you rather watch on screen ?
A pudgy thirtysomething typing code in a dark room or a bunch of really attractive young people ?
Hollywood figured this out a long time ago .
If we are going to stare at a screen for two hours we want eye candy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who would you rather watch on screen?
A pudgy thirtysomething typing code in a dark room
or a bunch of really attractive young people?
Hollywood figured this out a long time ago.
If we are going to stare at a screen for two hours we want eye candy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275752</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267127820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It sounded like a cocktail party.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It sounded like a cocktail party .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It sounded like a cocktail party.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278104</id>
	<title>Re:"Teenaged whiz-kids"</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1267094340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Now I feel like washing out my mouth</i></p><p>You typed that with your tongue? EWWWWW!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now I feel like washing out my mouthYou typed that with your tongue ?
EWWWWW !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now I feel like washing out my mouthYou typed that with your tongue?
EWWWWW!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31280028</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267104480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.</p></div><p>Better than the 12yr old hacking an ED209 in RoboCop III?</p><p>*rofl*</p><p>Shit I can't even say that with a straight face<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..</p></div>
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<tokenext>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.Better than the 12yr old hacking an ED209 in RoboCop III ?
* rofl * Shit I ca n't even say that with a straight face . .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.Better than the 12yr old hacking an ED209 in RoboCop III?
*rofl*Shit I can't even say that with a straight face ..
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31279706</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>Zordak</author>
	<datestamp>1267102560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.</p></div><p>Um, you do realize that you're talking about a movie with a sentient computer, don't you?  Also, the war dialing wasn't even realistic, because the computer had no way to disconnect the phone between calls.  He just picked it up off the cradle and put it in the modem, and it magically made a bunch of separate calls.</p></div>
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<tokenext>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.Um , you do realize that you 're talking about a movie with a sentient computer , do n't you ?
Also , the war dialing was n't even realistic , because the computer had no way to disconnect the phone between calls .
He just picked it up off the cradle and put it in the modem , and it magically made a bunch of separate calls .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.Um, you do realize that you're talking about a movie with a sentient computer, don't you?
Also, the war dialing wasn't even realistic, because the computer had no way to disconnect the phone between calls.
He just picked it up off the cradle and put it in the modem, and it magically made a bunch of separate calls.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275846</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, but</title>
	<author>Moheeheeko</author>
	<datestamp>1267128180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>thats why they added Anjolina Jolie's tits to Hackers</htmltext>
<tokenext>thats why they added Anjolina Jolie 's tits to Hackers</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thats why they added Anjolina Jolie's tits to Hackers</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31280786</id>
	<title>Now, how do you portray "hacking" well on TV?</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1267111440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Thanks for all the rants how Hollywood seriously crashes and burns when it comes to "sensible" display of hacking, how it is constantly a firework of flahy graphics and nonsensical flicker output... But, well, how else do you want to do it?</p><p>Your goal, when making a movie, is to show something that the viewer wants to see. Hacking is not exactly a spectator sport. What do you see? Some guy, reading various boards, hunting for new 0days, trying stuff against his own server (again, text only, why bother writing a graphical frontend... because none exists since, well, what you're doing SHOULD not work and is certainly not the "normal flow of operation"), then, when it's time to actually pry the juicy server open it's again a few tools and their text output that tells the (informed) hacker which exploit might work, he prods again, maybe gets some garbled output, then a few lines of scp and a few (textual) progress bars...</p><p>I think if you want to show hackers sensibly, the only way is the same you see in medical series: Concentrate on something other than the "actual" work. How often do you actually get to see some doctors operate? An operation can take hours, yet you might see a minute or so of OP time in a show, if that. The focus is elsewhere, and there's a really good reason why: You, the viewer, without a medical background, could not tell a healthy liver from one that's gonna blow in a minute anyway. You would not "get" why everyone's getting hectic even though there isn't a geyser of blood squirting from the patient's belly. Likewise, the whole "shit hits the fan and everything starts flashing" crap should be canned in favor of one of the hackers telling the viewer why hell breaks lose (to give a reason just why he explains it, have one of the non-tech guys with them so there's a reason he tells the viewer how his friend just stumbled over a tripwire in the server security) and put the focus elsewhere in your story.</p><p>Sorry, there is no "good" way to show hacking as entertaining to watch and realistic too. It just isn't interesting to watch a hacker do his magic when you have no idea what's going on. A few lines of "realistic" stuff are fine if they're there to build tension. A blinking caret can be a great cliffhanger when the audience gets explained that the next output will make or break their run.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for all the rants how Hollywood seriously crashes and burns when it comes to " sensible " display of hacking , how it is constantly a firework of flahy graphics and nonsensical flicker output... But , well , how else do you want to do it ? Your goal , when making a movie , is to show something that the viewer wants to see .
Hacking is not exactly a spectator sport .
What do you see ?
Some guy , reading various boards , hunting for new 0days , trying stuff against his own server ( again , text only , why bother writing a graphical frontend... because none exists since , well , what you 're doing SHOULD not work and is certainly not the " normal flow of operation " ) , then , when it 's time to actually pry the juicy server open it 's again a few tools and their text output that tells the ( informed ) hacker which exploit might work , he prods again , maybe gets some garbled output , then a few lines of scp and a few ( textual ) progress bars...I think if you want to show hackers sensibly , the only way is the same you see in medical series : Concentrate on something other than the " actual " work .
How often do you actually get to see some doctors operate ?
An operation can take hours , yet you might see a minute or so of OP time in a show , if that .
The focus is elsewhere , and there 's a really good reason why : You , the viewer , without a medical background , could not tell a healthy liver from one that 's gon na blow in a minute anyway .
You would not " get " why everyone 's getting hectic even though there is n't a geyser of blood squirting from the patient 's belly .
Likewise , the whole " shit hits the fan and everything starts flashing " crap should be canned in favor of one of the hackers telling the viewer why hell breaks lose ( to give a reason just why he explains it , have one of the non-tech guys with them so there 's a reason he tells the viewer how his friend just stumbled over a tripwire in the server security ) and put the focus elsewhere in your story.Sorry , there is no " good " way to show hacking as entertaining to watch and realistic too .
It just is n't interesting to watch a hacker do his magic when you have no idea what 's going on .
A few lines of " realistic " stuff are fine if they 're there to build tension .
A blinking caret can be a great cliffhanger when the audience gets explained that the next output will make or break their run .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for all the rants how Hollywood seriously crashes and burns when it comes to "sensible" display of hacking, how it is constantly a firework of flahy graphics and nonsensical flicker output... But, well, how else do you want to do it?Your goal, when making a movie, is to show something that the viewer wants to see.
Hacking is not exactly a spectator sport.
What do you see?
Some guy, reading various boards, hunting for new 0days, trying stuff against his own server (again, text only, why bother writing a graphical frontend... because none exists since, well, what you're doing SHOULD not work and is certainly not the "normal flow of operation"), then, when it's time to actually pry the juicy server open it's again a few tools and their text output that tells the (informed) hacker which exploit might work, he prods again, maybe gets some garbled output, then a few lines of scp and a few (textual) progress bars...I think if you want to show hackers sensibly, the only way is the same you see in medical series: Concentrate on something other than the "actual" work.
How often do you actually get to see some doctors operate?
An operation can take hours, yet you might see a minute or so of OP time in a show, if that.
The focus is elsewhere, and there's a really good reason why: You, the viewer, without a medical background, could not tell a healthy liver from one that's gonna blow in a minute anyway.
You would not "get" why everyone's getting hectic even though there isn't a geyser of blood squirting from the patient's belly.
Likewise, the whole "shit hits the fan and everything starts flashing" crap should be canned in favor of one of the hackers telling the viewer why hell breaks lose (to give a reason just why he explains it, have one of the non-tech guys with them so there's a reason he tells the viewer how his friend just stumbled over a tripwire in the server security) and put the focus elsewhere in your story.Sorry, there is no "good" way to show hacking as entertaining to watch and realistic too.
It just isn't interesting to watch a hacker do his magic when you have no idea what's going on.
A few lines of "realistic" stuff are fine if they're there to build tension.
A blinking caret can be a great cliffhanger when the audience gets explained that the next output will make or break their run.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277306</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1267090920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Heck even psychology is abused in movies and that is borderline pseudoscience anyway....</p></div><p>WTF? Have you jumped straight out of the 19th century??</p><p>But that&rsquo;s what you get, when talking about a non-computer topic on Slashdot. People think they are experts in everything.<br>Well, let me tell ya: You don&rsquo;t know <em>shit</em>!</p><p>Psychology nowadays is based on neurology. The science of neural networks and especially the human brain.<br>If all you know is therapists and medical doctors with no degree, disguising as experts in psychology, then of course you think it&rsquo;s shit. The problem is, that it&rsquo;s less than 20 years, since there is a proper law that separates every man and his dog who thinks he knows how people think, from real scientists. And all you know are those wannabees.</p><p>But hey, it&rsquo;s likely that it&rsquo;s not your fault. So let me give you a guide:<br><strong>If someone can not deduce something back to neurology, he is not a psychologist. Period. Simple as that.</strong></p><p>Modern psychotherapy for example deals with revealing repressions and understanding and fixing mis-associations in neural networks. All thing that are based on neurology. Mail me and I give you an explanation of it all, in a nutshell. And based on neurology.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Heck even psychology is abused in movies and that is borderline pseudoscience anyway....WTF ?
Have you jumped straight out of the 19th century ?
? But that    s what you get , when talking about a non-computer topic on Slashdot .
People think they are experts in everything.Well , let me tell ya : You don    t know shit ! Psychology nowadays is based on neurology .
The science of neural networks and especially the human brain.If all you know is therapists and medical doctors with no degree , disguising as experts in psychology , then of course you think it    s shit .
The problem is , that it    s less than 20 years , since there is a proper law that separates every man and his dog who thinks he knows how people think , from real scientists .
And all you know are those wannabees.But hey , it    s likely that it    s not your fault .
So let me give you a guide : If someone can not deduce something back to neurology , he is not a psychologist .
Period. Simple as that.Modern psychotherapy for example deals with revealing repressions and understanding and fixing mis-associations in neural networks .
All thing that are based on neurology .
Mail me and I give you an explanation of it all , in a nutshell .
And based on neurology .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Heck even psychology is abused in movies and that is borderline pseudoscience anyway....WTF?
Have you jumped straight out of the 19th century?
?But that’s what you get, when talking about a non-computer topic on Slashdot.
People think they are experts in everything.Well, let me tell ya: You don’t know shit!Psychology nowadays is based on neurology.
The science of neural networks and especially the human brain.If all you know is therapists and medical doctors with no degree, disguising as experts in psychology, then of course you think it’s shit.
The problem is, that it’s less than 20 years, since there is a proper law that separates every man and his dog who thinks he knows how people think, from real scientists.
And all you know are those wannabees.But hey, it’s likely that it’s not your fault.
So let me give you a guide:If someone can not deduce something back to neurology, he is not a psychologist.
Period. Simple as that.Modern psychotherapy for example deals with revealing repressions and understanding and fixing mis-associations in neural networks.
All thing that are based on neurology.
Mail me and I give you an explanation of it all, in a nutshell.
And based on neurology.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275066</id>
	<title>LA</title>
	<author>c0d3r</author>
	<datestamp>1267125360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Either there are too many hackers or almost none in LA (I think almost none).  It is pretty scarce to find free internet or even reliable internet in this town, or even anyone who know what their talking about unless they are holding up a company.  Then again, I'm from the SV.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Either there are too many hackers or almost none in LA ( I think almost none ) .
It is pretty scarce to find free internet or even reliable internet in this town , or even anyone who know what their talking about unless they are holding up a company .
Then again , I 'm from the SV .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either there are too many hackers or almost none in LA (I think almost none).
It is pretty scarce to find free internet or even reliable internet in this town, or even anyone who know what their talking about unless they are holding up a company.
Then again, I'm from the SV.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275724</id>
	<title>Re:50 years?</title>
	<author>baegucb</author>
	<datestamp>1267127760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tron might qualify as being before War Games. It came out in 1982.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tron might qualify as being before War Games .
It came out in 1982 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tron might qualify as being before War Games.
It came out in 1982.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275402</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267126680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whatever dude.  It just means when I talk to people about what I do all day it leaves them amazed &amp; jealous of my "minority report" style screen.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whatever dude .
It just means when I talk to people about what I do all day it leaves them amazed &amp; jealous of my " minority report " style screen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whatever dude.
It just means when I talk to people about what I do all day it leaves them amazed &amp; jealous of my "minority report" style screen.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277216</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1267090500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think everyone thinking I can take over cities on a whim is treated well... Hackers are good guys more than they are bad guys in movies.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think everyone thinking I can take over cities on a whim is treated well... Hackers are good guys more than they are bad guys in movies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think everyone thinking I can take over cities on a whim is treated well... Hackers are good guys more than they are bad guys in movies.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276868</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267089180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To be fair, I don't think hollywood script writing and screenplay adoption is anything like it is depicted in the movies.And (presumably) the writers know how these work in the real world.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:D</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair , I do n't think hollywood script writing and screenplay adoption is anything like it is depicted in the movies.And ( presumably ) the writers know how these work in the real world .
: D</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair, I don't think hollywood script writing and screenplay adoption is anything like it is depicted in the movies.And (presumably) the writers know how these work in the real world.
:D</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275854</id>
	<title>How about Racism in Hacking films?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267128180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Name one, I mean ONE Asian male in a "hacking" film.</p><p>This is one of the largest demographics in the computer industry (if not THE largest), and I can't name a single one in any of these films.   Interestingly enough, there are plenty of African American programmers in Hollywood (which is much smaller demographic in the real world).    The Matrix trilogy springs to mind as the most offensive in this regard.</p><p>Live Free or Die Hard has not one, but TWO Asian **female** hackers, but no male ones to speak of.</p><p>As an Asian male, I don't find Hollywood's treatment of hackers to be very positive at all.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Name one , I mean ONE Asian male in a " hacking " film.This is one of the largest demographics in the computer industry ( if not THE largest ) , and I ca n't name a single one in any of these films .
Interestingly enough , there are plenty of African American programmers in Hollywood ( which is much smaller demographic in the real world ) .
The Matrix trilogy springs to mind as the most offensive in this regard.Live Free or Die Hard has not one , but TWO Asian * * female * * hackers , but no male ones to speak of.As an Asian male , I do n't find Hollywood 's treatment of hackers to be very positive at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Name one, I mean ONE Asian male in a "hacking" film.This is one of the largest demographics in the computer industry (if not THE largest), and I can't name a single one in any of these films.
Interestingly enough, there are plenty of African American programmers in Hollywood (which is much smaller demographic in the real world).
The Matrix trilogy springs to mind as the most offensive in this regard.Live Free or Die Hard has not one, but TWO Asian **female** hackers, but no male ones to speak of.As an Asian male, I don't find Hollywood's treatment of hackers to be very positive at all.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274932</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Manip</author>
	<datestamp>1267124880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While hackers are often shown to have super-technical abilities that make no sense, so are the "good guys." I think to some degree it kind of counter-balances the whole thing.</p><p>Computers/technology isn't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger science rant in which all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure, biology, chemistry, engineering, and psychics.</p><p>Heck even psychology is abused in movies and that is borderline pseudoscience anyway....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While hackers are often shown to have super-technical abilities that make no sense , so are the " good guys .
" I think to some degree it kind of counter-balances the whole thing.Computers/technology is n't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger science rant in which all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure , biology , chemistry , engineering , and psychics.Heck even psychology is abused in movies and that is borderline pseudoscience anyway... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While hackers are often shown to have super-technical abilities that make no sense, so are the "good guys.
" I think to some degree it kind of counter-balances the whole thing.Computers/technology isn't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger science rant in which all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure, biology, chemistry, engineering, and psychics.Heck even psychology is abused in movies and that is borderline pseudoscience anyway....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31279220</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>sootman</author>
	<datestamp>1267099020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The best hacking films are...</p><ul><li>1983 - <em> <strong>War Games</strong> </em> - realistic depiction of old-school hacking</li><li>1992 - <em> <strong>Sneakers</strong> </em> - realistic depiction of social engineering</li><li>1995 - <em> <strong>Hackers</strong> </em> - Agelina Jolie briefly topless</li><li>2001 - <em> <strong>Swordfish</strong> </em> - long scene of Halle Berry topless</li></ul><p>The best hacking film of all time, therefore, is <em>Swordfish</em>, followed by a two-way tie between <em>War Games</em> and <em>Sneakers</em>. <em>Hackers</em> comes in fourth--not even a naked 19-year-old Angelina Jolie could save that piece of shit.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The best hacking films are...1983 - War Games - realistic depiction of old-school hacking1992 - Sneakers - realistic depiction of social engineering1995 - Hackers - Agelina Jolie briefly topless2001 - Swordfish - long scene of Halle Berry toplessThe best hacking film of all time , therefore , is Swordfish , followed by a two-way tie between War Games and Sneakers .
Hackers comes in fourth--not even a naked 19-year-old Angelina Jolie could save that piece of shit .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The best hacking films are...1983 -  War Games  - realistic depiction of old-school hacking1992 -  Sneakers  - realistic depiction of social engineering1995 -  Hackers  - Agelina Jolie briefly topless2001 -  Swordfish  - long scene of Halle Berry toplessThe best hacking film of all time, therefore, is Swordfish, followed by a two-way tie between War Games and Sneakers.
Hackers comes in fourth--not even a naked 19-year-old Angelina Jolie could save that piece of shit.
:-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275004</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>0racle</author>
	<datestamp>1267125120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Harmful to whom? Stop defining yourself based on what some script writer, who has no real idea what they're writing about, puts on the silver screen.<br> <br>Movies are entertainment and what 'hackers' do, no matter what the definition of the word you feel like using, is really very boring to watch.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Harmful to whom ?
Stop defining yourself based on what some script writer , who has no real idea what they 're writing about , puts on the silver screen .
Movies are entertainment and what 'hackers ' do , no matter what the definition of the word you feel like using , is really very boring to watch .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Harmful to whom?
Stop defining yourself based on what some script writer, who has no real idea what they're writing about, puts on the silver screen.
Movies are entertainment and what 'hackers' do, no matter what the definition of the word you feel like using, is really very boring to watch.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31281652</id>
	<title>Re:How about Racism in Hacking films?</title>
	<author>Macgrrl</author>
	<datestamp>1267121160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can't remembe the names of the characters of the top of my head, "Blade" was one of them I think. The UBER hackers in the movie Hackers were asian.</p><p>Hack the Planet!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ca n't remembe the names of the characters of the top of my head , " Blade " was one of them I think .
The UBER hackers in the movie Hackers were asian.Hack the Planet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can't remembe the names of the characters of the top of my head, "Blade" was one of them I think.
The UBER hackers in the movie Hackers were asian.Hack the Planet!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31280234</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Bucc5062</author>
	<datestamp>1267106100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>28 years in the field....best quote I've read on the topic.  Now if hiring managers would understand the same idea.</p><p>"How many years experience you have in c#?"<br>"28 years"<br>"In c#?"<br>"No in programming, its all the same under the hood"<br>"I don't get it, but you don't get the job, NEXT!"</p><p>there was a time when it was about critical thinking, the ability to adapt, now its about the banality of do I know the difference between {} and BEGIN END or ; vs . or ' vs<nobr> <wbr></nobr>// or [] versus () for x number of years.</p><p>Yes,  I'm a product of downsizing...Yes I'm looking for a job, and yes, I'm a little jaded about an industry I've loved for 28 years.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>28 years in the field....best quote I 've read on the topic .
Now if hiring managers would understand the same idea .
" How many years experience you have in c # ?
" " 28 years " " In c # ?
" " No in programming , its all the same under the hood " " I do n't get it , but you do n't get the job , NEXT !
" there was a time when it was about critical thinking , the ability to adapt , now its about the banality of do I know the difference between { } and BEGIN END or ; vs .
or ' vs // or [ ] versus ( ) for x number of years.Yes , I 'm a product of downsizing...Yes I 'm looking for a job , and yes , I 'm a little jaded about an industry I 've loved for 28 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>28 years in the field....best quote I've read on the topic.
Now if hiring managers would understand the same idea.
"How many years experience you have in c#?
""28 years""In c#?
""No in programming, its all the same under the hood""I don't get it, but you don't get the job, NEXT!
"there was a time when it was about critical thinking, the ability to adapt, now its about the banality of do I know the difference between {} and BEGIN END or ; vs .
or ' vs // or [] versus () for x number of years.Yes,  I'm a product of downsizing...Yes I'm looking for a job, and yes, I'm a little jaded about an industry I've loved for 28 years.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277206</id>
	<title>I hated firewall</title>
	<author>anglico</author>
	<datestamp>1267090440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext> There was a scene where somebody was breaking into the system and this IT expert freaks out and Harrison Ford says something to the effect of 'just create an exception rule to block his IP'. <br>My girlfriend asked if that was true and I said yeah but even I know that and I'm not any where near as skilled as that guy is <b>supposed</b> to be. After that I just had to leave the room I couldn't watch anymore.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There was a scene where somebody was breaking into the system and this IT expert freaks out and Harrison Ford says something to the effect of 'just create an exception rule to block his IP' .
My girlfriend asked if that was true and I said yeah but even I know that and I 'm not any where near as skilled as that guy is supposed to be .
After that I just had to leave the room I could n't watch anymore .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> There was a scene where somebody was breaking into the system and this IT expert freaks out and Harrison Ford says something to the effect of 'just create an exception rule to block his IP'.
My girlfriend asked if that was true and I said yeah but even I know that and I'm not any where near as skilled as that guy is supposed to be.
After that I just had to leave the room I couldn't watch anymore.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274982</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Em Emalb</author>
	<datestamp>1267125060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I beg to differ, I'm pretty sure Hugh Jackman's character in Swordfish was treated pretty well...during some of the "hacking" scenes, anyway.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I beg to differ , I 'm pretty sure Hugh Jackman 's character in Swordfish was treated pretty well...during some of the " hacking " scenes , anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I beg to differ, I'm pretty sure Hugh Jackman's character in Swordfish was treated pretty well...during some of the "hacking" scenes, anyway.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31279560</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1267101480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>He had plenty of time! Maybe he did it when he was drunk.</p> </div><p> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQmK1CnwOUI" title="youtube.com">Sounds plausible.</a> [youtube.com] </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>He had plenty of time !
Maybe he did it when he was drunk .
Sounds plausible .
[ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He had plenty of time!
Maybe he did it when he was drunk.
Sounds plausible.
[youtube.com] 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276638</id>
	<title>Hackers becoming like movies</title>
	<author>phorm</author>
	<datestamp>1267131300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Actually, when you think about it, a lot of hacking/cracking has become more like the movies. You end up with fancy GUI tools that any script-kiddy who's willing to pay $19.99 can use. Heck, keygens have had sappy demoscene SID-tunes and fancy effects for ages.</p><p>Even sysadmin tools are becoming a bit more TV-esque, and my Linux Desktop is certainly filled with more "omg effectzors" than years ago. Yes, I still use a terminal very regularly, but in some cases the GUI tools are pretty damn good too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Actually , when you think about it , a lot of hacking/cracking has become more like the movies .
You end up with fancy GUI tools that any script-kiddy who 's willing to pay $ 19.99 can use .
Heck , keygens have had sappy demoscene SID-tunes and fancy effects for ages.Even sysadmin tools are becoming a bit more TV-esque , and my Linux Desktop is certainly filled with more " omg effectzors " than years ago .
Yes , I still use a terminal very regularly , but in some cases the GUI tools are pretty damn good too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Actually, when you think about it, a lot of hacking/cracking has become more like the movies.
You end up with fancy GUI tools that any script-kiddy who's willing to pay $19.99 can use.
Heck, keygens have had sappy demoscene SID-tunes and fancy effects for ages.Even sysadmin tools are becoming a bit more TV-esque, and my Linux Desktop is certainly filled with more "omg effectzors" than years ago.
Yes, I still use a terminal very regularly, but in some cases the GUI tools are pretty damn good too.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276034</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>flappinbooger</author>
	<datestamp>1267128900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hey, now, they could have figured out the nature of the alien technology and figured out how the systems worked and figured out flaws and weaknesses in the ships systems and then figured out how to implement a virus to disrupt those systems and figured out how to make the mac interface with the ship.  <br> <br>He had plenty of time!  Maybe he did it when he was drunk.  <br> <br>Or, maybe he downloaded a trojan toolkit from the interwebs.  Probably found it on limewire, that's where all the other viruses are!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , now , they could have figured out the nature of the alien technology and figured out how the systems worked and figured out flaws and weaknesses in the ships systems and then figured out how to implement a virus to disrupt those systems and figured out how to make the mac interface with the ship .
He had plenty of time !
Maybe he did it when he was drunk .
Or , maybe he downloaded a trojan toolkit from the interwebs .
Probably found it on limewire , that 's where all the other viruses are !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, now, they could have figured out the nature of the alien technology and figured out how the systems worked and figured out flaws and weaknesses in the ships systems and then figured out how to implement a virus to disrupt those systems and figured out how to make the mac interface with the ship.
He had plenty of time!
Maybe he did it when he was drunk.
Or, maybe he downloaded a trojan toolkit from the interwebs.
Probably found it on limewire, that's where all the other viruses are!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276042</id>
	<title>Re:Search burbling, no cursors, huge fonts</title>
	<author>mindwhip</author>
	<datestamp>1267128960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No... they make dog sniffing and scratching noises a little while after the search... thanks for that one Microsoft.<br><a href="http://windowsdevcenter.com/windows/2004/06/01/graphics/figure1.gif" title="windowsdevcenter.com" rel="nofollow">http://windowsdevcenter.com/windows/2004/06/01/graphics/figure1.gif</a> [windowsdevcenter.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No... they make dog sniffing and scratching noises a little while after the search... thanks for that one Microsoft.http : //windowsdevcenter.com/windows/2004/06/01/graphics/figure1.gif [ windowsdevcenter.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No... they make dog sniffing and scratching noises a little while after the search... thanks for that one Microsoft.http://windowsdevcenter.com/windows/2004/06/01/graphics/figure1.gif [windowsdevcenter.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276824</id>
	<title>Mirror image</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267089000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No one wants to see a 300 pound unwashed guy sucking back big gulps and eating nachos while living in his parent's basement for 90 minutes.</p><p>I am coming mom!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No one wants to see a 300 pound unwashed guy sucking back big gulps and eating nachos while living in his parent 's basement for 90 minutes.I am coming mom !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No one wants to see a 300 pound unwashed guy sucking back big gulps and eating nachos while living in his parent's basement for 90 minutes.I am coming mom!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277868</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, but</title>
	<author>GodfatherofSoul</author>
	<datestamp>1267093440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ever seen <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0244244/" title="imdb.com">Swordfish</a> [imdb.com]?  There's a laughably funny attempt at making Hugh Jackman hammering away on a keyboard look sexy and energetic.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ever seen Swordfish [ imdb.com ] ?
There 's a laughably funny attempt at making Hugh Jackman hammering away on a keyboard look sexy and energetic .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ever seen Swordfish [imdb.com]?
There's a laughably funny attempt at making Hugh Jackman hammering away on a keyboard look sexy and energetic.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277386</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267091220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.</p></div></blockquote><p>I have to wonder what other movie was made with the title "War Games", because you can't possibly be describing the one that ends with a computer drawing philosophical conclusions from playing a game.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.I have to wonder what other movie was made with the title " War Games " , because you ca n't possibly be describing the one that ends with a computer drawing philosophical conclusions from playing a game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.I have to wonder what other movie was made with the title "War Games", because you can't possibly be describing the one that ends with a computer drawing philosophical conclusions from playing a game.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276376</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>srussia</author>
	<datestamp>1267130280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You call that realistic? <i>Realistic</i> would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming "LOL I troll you!" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard, piss-bottle at the ready, bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs.



What's surprising is that Hollywood dosen't use the actual stereotype as described above.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p></div><p>Jurassic Park
<br> <br>
Dennis Nedry played by Wayne Knight (aka Newman on Seinfeld)
<br> <br>
A cartoon image of Nedry appears on the screen and waves its little finger disapprovingly.
<br> <br>
<i>CARTOON NEDRY: "You didn't say the magic word!"
<br> <br>
ARNOLD: Please, God damn it!  I hate this hacker crap!
<br> <br> </i>
Close enough?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>You call that realistic ?
Realistic would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming " LOL I troll you !
" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard , piss-bottle at the ready , bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs .
What 's surprising is that Hollywood dose n't use the actual stereotype as described above .
.Jurassic Park Dennis Nedry played by Wayne Knight ( aka Newman on Seinfeld ) A cartoon image of Nedry appears on the screen and waves its little finger disapprovingly .
CARTOON NEDRY : " You did n't say the magic word !
" ARNOLD : Please , God damn it !
I hate this hacker crap !
Close enough ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You call that realistic?
Realistic would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming "LOL I troll you!
" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard, piss-bottle at the ready, bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs.
What's surprising is that Hollywood dosen't use the actual stereotype as described above.
.Jurassic Park
 
Dennis Nedry played by Wayne Knight (aka Newman on Seinfeld)
 
A cartoon image of Nedry appears on the screen and waves its little finger disapprovingly.
CARTOON NEDRY: "You didn't say the magic word!
"
 
ARNOLD: Please, God damn it!
I hate this hacker crap!
Close enough?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275896</id>
	<title>Hackers as hot as Angelina Jolie w/ short hair</title>
	<author>axl917</author>
	<datestamp>1267128360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is a fiction I can certainly live with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is a fiction I can certainly live with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is a fiction I can certainly live with.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275746</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267127820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Jackman typing on the Hydra in Swordfish reminds me of James Woods Comment in "The Specialist" As he fumbles with a bundle of TNT sticks. Who the hell is that suppose to fool?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Jackman typing on the Hydra in Swordfish reminds me of James Woods Comment in " The Specialist " As he fumbles with a bundle of TNT sticks .
Who the hell is that suppose to fool ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Jackman typing on the Hydra in Swordfish reminds me of James Woods Comment in "The Specialist" As he fumbles with a bundle of TNT sticks.
Who the hell is that suppose to fool?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275696</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, but</title>
	<author>rsborg</author>
	<datestamp>1267127700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell.</p></div></blockquote><p>You know, I think movies like Wargames, Matrix (and to a smaller extent, Sneakers) did this pretty decently.  For example, the scene where Neo is first <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9XP96PW6us" title="youtube.com">contacted by Trinity</a> [youtube.com] is a great example of how powerful text can be, if used properly.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell.You know , I think movies like Wargames , Matrix ( and to a smaller extent , Sneakers ) did this pretty decently .
For example , the scene where Neo is first contacted by Trinity [ youtube.com ] is a great example of how powerful text can be , if used properly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell.You know, I think movies like Wargames, Matrix (and to a smaller extent, Sneakers) did this pretty decently.
For example, the scene where Neo is first contacted by Trinity [youtube.com] is a great example of how powerful text can be, if used properly.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274842</id>
	<title>You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267124520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The person's themselves may be realistic in terms of age and profession, but nothing else is well treated. Movies continue to routinely portray unrealistic and nonsensical computer interactions and capabilities, which is particularly harmful to a depiction of a hacker.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The person 's themselves may be realistic in terms of age and profession , but nothing else is well treated .
Movies continue to routinely portray unrealistic and nonsensical computer interactions and capabilities , which is particularly harmful to a depiction of a hacker .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The person's themselves may be realistic in terms of age and profession, but nothing else is well treated.
Movies continue to routinely portray unrealistic and nonsensical computer interactions and capabilities, which is particularly harmful to a depiction of a hacker.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276516</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267130820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Better, thhey downloaded it using the alien ship at area51 accidentally while looking for sleezy alien tentacle porn.</p><p>"No Really! We were conducting 'Valuable Cultural Research! We didn't mean to download that virus!"</p><p>The rest is what made it past the editors.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Better , thhey downloaded it using the alien ship at area51 accidentally while looking for sleezy alien tentacle porn .
" No Really !
We were conducting 'Valuable Cultural Research !
We did n't mean to download that virus !
" The rest is what made it past the editors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Better, thhey downloaded it using the alien ship at area51 accidentally while looking for sleezy alien tentacle porn.
"No Really!
We were conducting 'Valuable Cultural Research!
We didn't mean to download that virus!
"The rest is what made it past the editors.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276034</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277652</id>
	<title>Re:50 years?</title>
	<author>EMB Numbers</author>
	<datestamp>1267092480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Colossus: The Forbin Project"</p><p><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/" title="imdb.com">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/</a> [imdb.com]</p><p>An artificially intelligent supercomputer is developed and activated, only to reveal that it has a sinister agenda of its own.  The scientists scramble to hack into it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Colossus : The Forbin Project " http : //www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/ [ imdb.com ] An artificially intelligent supercomputer is developed and activated , only to reveal that it has a sinister agenda of its own .
The scientists scramble to hack into it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Colossus: The Forbin Project"http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/ [imdb.com]An artificially intelligent supercomputer is developed and activated, only to reveal that it has a sinister agenda of its own.
The scientists scramble to hack into it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278292</id>
	<title>Re:50 years?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267095000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Who had hacker movies in 1960?  Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?</p></div><p>The Time Machine (the version made when men were manly men), was 1960.  But of course that depends on your definition of hacking; I prefer the MacGyver definition, because that explains both my forest admin achievements and why my car looks the way it does.<br>
&nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who had hacker movies in 1960 ?
Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games ? The Time Machine ( the version made when men were manly men ) , was 1960 .
But of course that depends on your definition of hacking ; I prefer the MacGyver definition , because that explains both my forest admin achievements and why my car looks the way it does .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who had hacker movies in 1960?
Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?The Time Machine (the version made when men were manly men), was 1960.
But of course that depends on your definition of hacking; I prefer the MacGyver definition, because that explains both my forest admin achievements and why my car looks the way it does.
 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275240</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278674</id>
	<title>Who cares.</title>
	<author>daschlag</author>
	<datestamp>1267096440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks slashdot, for allowing crap like this to get into my RSS reader.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks slashdot , for allowing crap like this to get into my RSS reader .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks slashdot, for allowing crap like this to get into my RSS reader.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275312</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267126380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because everyone knows how Slashdot only has mature reasonable discussion on it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because everyone knows how Slashdot only has mature reasonable discussion on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because everyone knows how Slashdot only has mature reasonable discussion on it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277424</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1267091340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hackers 1 had topless Lara Croft<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.. I mean Angelina Jolie in it. So I dunno what you are talking about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hackers 1 had topless Lara Croft .. I mean Angelina Jolie in it .
So I dunno what you are talking about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hackers 1 had topless Lara Croft .. I mean Angelina Jolie in it.
So I dunno what you are talking about.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275254</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31280002</id>
	<title>Re:Still waiting on my blowjob</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267104360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You have to remember that not only was it a blowjob but that it was done with a gun or the threat of a gun.  I am guessing under those conditions that I would be unable to perform in either sense of the word here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You have to remember that not only was it a blowjob but that it was done with a gun or the threat of a gun .
I am guessing under those conditions that I would be unable to perform in either sense of the word here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have to remember that not only was it a blowjob but that it was done with a gun or the threat of a gun.
I am guessing under those conditions that I would be unable to perform in either sense of the word here.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275840</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275778</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>BlaKnail</author>
	<datestamp>1267127940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>...all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure, biology, chemistry, engineering, and <b>psychics</b>.</p></div><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Edward" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">John Edward</a> [wikipedia.org] must be thrilled to know that he is a scientist now.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure , biology , chemistry , engineering , and psychics .
John Edward [ wikipedia.org ] must be thrilled to know that he is a scientist now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...all of the fields of science are abused for your viewing pleasure, biology, chemistry, engineering, and psychics.
John Edward [wikipedia.org] must be thrilled to know that he is a scientist now.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274932</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275254</id>
	<title>Sneakers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267126140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274828</id>
	<title>Yes, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267124460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too bad scenes of someone typing furiously at a computer are boring as hell.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274864</id>
	<title>News Flash!</title>
	<author>WrongSizeGlass</author>
	<datestamp>1267124580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hollywood takes creative license<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... produces more entertaining product.
<br> <br>
Nothing to see here. Move along<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hollywood takes creative license ... produces more entertaining product .
Nothing to see here .
Move along .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hollywood takes creative license ... produces more entertaining product.
Nothing to see here.
Move along ...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274854</id>
	<title>Stupid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267124580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why did this "study" get funding? Because it would make headlines.</p><p>Poor old Professor Knowsmath and his study of non-commutive ring structures in siberian oscillations. He'll have to make do with the money the university raised from raffling off that cat (4 euros).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why did this " study " get funding ?
Because it would make headlines.Poor old Professor Knowsmath and his study of non-commutive ring structures in siberian oscillations .
He 'll have to make do with the money the university raised from raffling off that cat ( 4 euros ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why did this "study" get funding?
Because it would make headlines.Poor old Professor Knowsmath and his study of non-commutive ring structures in siberian oscillations.
He'll have to make do with the money the university raised from raffling off that cat (4 euros).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278696</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>Lisandro</author>
	<datestamp>1267096500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Meh, i'll take Sneakers over War Games every day. Sneakers shows that realistically hacking is more about social engineering than typing cryptic commands on a computer. And on top of that, it was a <b>FUN</b>, really well put togheter movie. The final scene ("Tahiti is not in Europe!") is great and gets a laugh out of me every time.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Meh , i 'll take Sneakers over War Games every day .
Sneakers shows that realistically hacking is more about social engineering than typing cryptic commands on a computer .
And on top of that , it was a FUN , really well put togheter movie .
The final scene ( " Tahiti is not in Europe !
" ) is great and gets a laugh out of me every time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Meh, i'll take Sneakers over War Games every day.
Sneakers shows that realistically hacking is more about social engineering than typing cryptic commands on a computer.
And on top of that, it was a FUN, really well put togheter movie.
The final scene ("Tahiti is not in Europe!
") is great and gets a laugh out of me every time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275614</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275310</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Nukenbar</author>
	<datestamp>1267126380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I would argue Independence Day still has the most absurd hack of all time.</p><p>From the article: "A Mac hacking into an alien operating system and loading a virus. That's Steve Jobs' dream: The power of the Mac"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I would argue Independence Day still has the most absurd hack of all time.From the article : " A Mac hacking into an alien operating system and loading a virus .
That 's Steve Jobs ' dream : The power of the Mac "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would argue Independence Day still has the most absurd hack of all time.From the article: "A Mac hacking into an alien operating system and loading a virus.
That's Steve Jobs' dream: The power of the Mac"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276086</id>
	<title>They got a few things wrong</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267129200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They got the Doritos and Red Bull wrong, wait a minute. Never mind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They got the Doritos and Red Bull wrong , wait a minute .
Never mind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They got the Doritos and Red Bull wrong, wait a minute.
Never mind.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31280444</id>
	<title>Re:Hollywood isn't reality - we want it that way</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267108020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Neve Campbell dressed in highly-polished black latex catsuit with black balletboots, of course. Nancy McKeon comes a close second unless there is a motorcycle involved then she moves into first place.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Neve Campbell dressed in highly-polished black latex catsuit with black balletboots , of course .
Nancy McKeon comes a close second unless there is a motorcycle involved then she moves into first place .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Neve Campbell dressed in highly-polished black latex catsuit with black balletboots, of course.
Nancy McKeon comes a close second unless there is a motorcycle involved then she moves into first place.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274994</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275840</id>
	<title>Still waiting on my blowjob</title>
	<author>Chas</author>
	<datestamp>1267128120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seriously.  I wanna know where you go for a job interview that tests you under pressure (excuse the pun) of a blowjob.</p><p>I'd apply in a heartbeat.</p><p>Several times.</p><p>A day!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seriously .
I wan na know where you go for a job interview that tests you under pressure ( excuse the pun ) of a blowjob.I 'd apply in a heartbeat.Several times.A day !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seriously.
I wanna know where you go for a job interview that tests you under pressure (excuse the pun) of a blowjob.I'd apply in a heartbeat.Several times.A day!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275776</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267127880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Have you ever watched Red Dwarf?  Lister wasn't a computer geek as such, but you pretty much described his lifestyle.  The show was very amusing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Have you ever watched Red Dwarf ?
Lister was n't a computer geek as such , but you pretty much described his lifestyle .
The show was very amusing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Have you ever watched Red Dwarf?
Lister wasn't a computer geek as such, but you pretty much described his lifestyle.
The show was very amusing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275034</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276076</id>
	<title>HACK THE PLANET!</title>
	<author>kaizokuace</author>
	<datestamp>1267129140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HACK THE PLANET!</htmltext>
<tokenext>HACK THE PLANET !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HACK THE PLANET!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31279346</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267099920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <i>For example, the scene where Neo is first contacted by Trinity</i>

</p><p>Wait...that was <b>Trinity</b>?!?!?  I never realized that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For example , the scene where Neo is first contacted by Trinity Wait...that was Trinity ? ! ? ! ?
I never realized that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> For example, the scene where Neo is first contacted by Trinity

Wait...that was Trinity?!?!?
I never realized that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275696</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275440</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>CherniyVolk</author>
	<datestamp>1267126860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Maturity in IT really means that you're at the point where you finally realize, 'there really is no magic'.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Maturity in IT really means that you 're at the point where you finally realize , 'there really is no magic' .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maturity in IT really means that you're at the point where you finally realize, 'there really is no magic'.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274884</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31280324</id>
	<title>You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267106880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have just saved this image file for use in a digital forensics course I am putting together. If only law enforcement could pull off such digital wizardry to see a suspect's face captured on grainy video surveillance.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have just saved this image file for use in a digital forensics course I am putting together .
If only law enforcement could pull off such digital wizardry to see a suspect 's face captured on grainy video surveillance .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have just saved this image file for use in a digital forensics course I am putting together.
If only law enforcement could pull off such digital wizardry to see a suspect's face captured on grainy video surveillance.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275732</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275034</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267125240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>You call that realistic? <i>Realistic</i> would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming "LOL I troll you!" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard, piss-bottle at the ready, bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs. <br> <br>

What's surprising is that Hollywood dosen't use the actual stereotype as described above. The truth would be more amusing than the fiction they've churned out thus far.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You call that realistic ?
Realistic would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming " LOL I troll you !
" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard , piss-bottle at the ready , bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs .
What 's surprising is that Hollywood dose n't use the actual stereotype as described above .
The truth would be more amusing than the fiction they 've churned out thus far .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You call that realistic?
Realistic would be an obese mouth-breathing zit-encrusted neckbeard with eyeglasses taped together screaming "LOL I troll you!
" while typing furiously into a sticky keyboard, piss-bottle at the ready, bound in a semen-crusted dragon shirt and yellow skid-marked briefs.
What's surprising is that Hollywood dosen't use the actual stereotype as described above.
The truth would be more amusing than the fiction they've churned out thus far.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275576</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1267127280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think even the "realistic" parts of the portrayal are accidental. I mean a white male of professional age in a setting with lots of computer equipment isn't exactly a stretch. It's probably the opposite: most hackers fit into the most boring stereotype known to man.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think even the " realistic " parts of the portrayal are accidental .
I mean a white male of professional age in a setting with lots of computer equipment is n't exactly a stretch .
It 's probably the opposite : most hackers fit into the most boring stereotype known to man .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think even the "realistic" parts of the portrayal are accidental.
I mean a white male of professional age in a setting with lots of computer equipment isn't exactly a stretch.
It's probably the opposite: most hackers fit into the most boring stereotype known to man.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274842</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276554</id>
	<title>Re:How about Racism in Hacking films?</title>
	<author>mdarksbane</author>
	<datestamp>1267131000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Probably depends on where you live. I'm not sure the tech company I work for has a single asian man working for us, nor did my last one. A few Indians, African-Americans, all nature of white guys.</p><p>I knew plenty of asian programmers in college, but they weren't the majority by any means.</p><p>This is in Columbus, Ohio, though, where pretty much the only asians who grew up here have parents working at the Honda plant.</p><p>Wonder if the movie studios are trying to shy away from the more obvious stereotypes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably depends on where you live .
I 'm not sure the tech company I work for has a single asian man working for us , nor did my last one .
A few Indians , African-Americans , all nature of white guys.I knew plenty of asian programmers in college , but they were n't the majority by any means.This is in Columbus , Ohio , though , where pretty much the only asians who grew up here have parents working at the Honda plant.Wonder if the movie studios are trying to shy away from the more obvious stereotypes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably depends on where you live.
I'm not sure the tech company I work for has a single asian man working for us, nor did my last one.
A few Indians, African-Americans, all nature of white guys.I knew plenty of asian programmers in college, but they weren't the majority by any means.This is in Columbus, Ohio, though, where pretty much the only asians who grew up here have parents working at the Honda plant.Wonder if the movie studios are trying to shy away from the more obvious stereotypes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277186</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267090320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not if it's <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113957/" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow">Sandra Bullock</a> [imdb.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not if it 's Sandra Bullock [ imdb.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not if it's Sandra Bullock [imdb.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275048</id>
	<title>Anonymous Hero</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267125240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I like the ad on the left more than the article itself. Amazed to see a human connected chat advertisement integrated to publicize the company</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I like the ad on the left more than the article itself .
Amazed to see a human connected chat advertisement integrated to publicize the company</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I like the ad on the left more than the article itself.
Amazed to see a human connected chat advertisement integrated to publicize the company</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275552</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Bakkster</author>
	<datestamp>1267127160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What, you mean you've never hacked the Gibson!?  Just because you're a bad hacker doesn't mean they should dumb down the hackers in movies for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What , you mean you 've never hacked the Gibson ! ?
Just because you 're a bad hacker does n't mean they should dumb down the hackers in movies for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, you mean you've never hacked the Gibson!?
Just because you're a bad hacker doesn't mean they should dumb down the hackers in movies for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275706</id>
	<title>Re:50 years?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267127760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's three links deep and an Excel spreadsheet, so one can be excused for not RTFA: Hot MIllions (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063094/).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's three links deep and an Excel spreadsheet , so one can be excused for not RTFA : Hot MIllions ( http : //www.imdb.com/title/tt0063094/ ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's three links deep and an Excel spreadsheet, so one can be excused for not RTFA: Hot MIllions (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063094/).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274884</id>
	<title>Really?</title>
	<author>Ltap</author>
	<datestamp>1267124700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>While the age of hackers in movies seems to have increased lately (Die Hard 4, the most braindead one yet when you ignore television shows them as paranoid 20-somethings), they aren't shown as particularly mature.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While the age of hackers in movies seems to have increased lately ( Die Hard 4 , the most braindead one yet when you ignore television shows them as paranoid 20-somethings ) , they are n't shown as particularly mature .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While the age of hackers in movies seems to have increased lately (Die Hard 4, the most braindead one yet when you ignore television shows them as paranoid 20-somethings), they aren't shown as particularly mature.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275364</id>
	<title>Search burbling, no cursors, huge fonts</title>
	<author>uberchicken</author>
	<datestamp>1267126500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I try to allow for artistic license, but real computers DON'T MAKE CUTE R2D2 NOISES WHEN THEY'RE SEARCHING!</p><p>Grrrr..</p><p>Not strictly on-topic, but that felt good for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I try to allow for artistic license , but real computers DO N'T MAKE CUTE R2D2 NOISES WHEN THEY 'RE SEARCHING ! Grrrr..Not strictly on-topic , but that felt good for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I try to allow for artistic license, but real computers DON'T MAKE CUTE R2D2 NOISES WHEN THEY'RE SEARCHING!Grrrr..Not strictly on-topic, but that felt good for me.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274898</id>
	<title>And my company?</title>
	<author>msantosn</author>
	<datestamp>1267124700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Damn....<br> <br>If I could be treated "just well" in the company I work for... =/<br> <br>I should move to Hollywood then...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Damn.... If I could be treated " just well " in the company I work for... = / I should move to Hollywood then.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Damn.... If I could be treated "just well" in the company I work for... =/ I should move to Hollywood then...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275732</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267127820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>CSI is particularly bad for this, <a href="http://img.moronail.net/img/1/0/2010.jpg" title="moronail.net">"see if you can enhance that license plate"</a> [moronail.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>CSI is particularly bad for this , " see if you can enhance that license plate " [ moronail.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CSI is particularly bad for this, "see if you can enhance that license plate" [moronail.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276470</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1267130640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.</p></div><p>Except it also has the most overused and silly computer-related tropes ever in it : <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LogicBomb" title="tvtropes.org">the logicbomb</a> [tvtropes.org].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.Except it also has the most overused and silly computer-related tropes ever in it : the logicbomb [ tvtropes.org ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.Except it also has the most overused and silly computer-related tropes ever in it : the logicbomb [tvtropes.org].
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275532</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267127100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>cattle mutilations are up!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>cattle mutilations are up !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cattle mutilations are up!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276970</id>
	<title>Re:Yes, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267089480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My question is, why do hackers always type so slowly? In fact, the only time I ever see people typing quickly on a keyboard is when they're obviously faking it. This always bugs me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My question is , why do hackers always type so slowly ?
In fact , the only time I ever see people typing quickly on a keyboard is when they 're obviously faking it .
This always bugs me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My question is, why do hackers always type so slowly?
In fact, the only time I ever see people typing quickly on a keyboard is when they're obviously faking it.
This always bugs me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275062</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267125300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Keep in mind that he's using a broad definition of hacker.  Captain Kirk in Wrath of Khan qualifies for hacking into the Reliant and lowering Khan's shields.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Keep in mind that he 's using a broad definition of hacker .
Captain Kirk in Wrath of Khan qualifies for hacking into the Reliant and lowering Khan 's shields .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Keep in mind that he's using a broad definition of hacker.
Captain Kirk in Wrath of Khan qualifies for hacking into the Reliant and lowering Khan's shields.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31279232</id>
	<title>realistic?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267099080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At least outside of hollywood people have made <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LQT5aG8MoA" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">realistic portrayals of hackers</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At least outside of hollywood people have made realistic portrayals of hackers [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least outside of hollywood people have made realistic portrayals of hackers [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277392</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Sulphur</author>
	<datestamp>1267091220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A Mac hacking into an alien operating system and loading a virus.</p><p>The guys on the probe ship figured that no use could be made of the Mac they left behind.  It was only later that</p><p>they remembered the prototype virus, and the damage it could do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A Mac hacking into an alien operating system and loading a virus.The guys on the probe ship figured that no use could be made of the Mac they left behind .
It was only later thatthey remembered the prototype virus , and the damage it could do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Mac hacking into an alien operating system and loading a virus.The guys on the probe ship figured that no use could be made of the Mac they left behind.
It was only later thatthey remembered the prototype virus, and the damage it could do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276454</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>chronosan</author>
	<datestamp>1267130580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The aliens in ID4 weren't exactly social animals, devouring worlds and such. Maybe they developed all that technology because they didn't have social conventions that would merit them taking time to bother worrying about network security. If so, someone with a rudimentary understanding of their systems could hijack their systems?

 Then again, they did 'hack' the satellites... myExplanation--;</htmltext>
<tokenext>The aliens in ID4 were n't exactly social animals , devouring worlds and such .
Maybe they developed all that technology because they did n't have social conventions that would merit them taking time to bother worrying about network security .
If so , someone with a rudimentary understanding of their systems could hijack their systems ?
Then again , they did 'hack ' the satellites... myExplanation-- ;</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The aliens in ID4 weren't exactly social animals, devouring worlds and such.
Maybe they developed all that technology because they didn't have social conventions that would merit them taking time to bother worrying about network security.
If so, someone with a rudimentary understanding of their systems could hijack their systems?
Then again, they did 'hack' the satellites... myExplanation--;</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275528</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Rary</author>
	<datestamp>1267127100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Computers/technology isn't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger <b>general</b> rant in which all of the fields of <b>anything</b> are abused for your viewing pleasure.</p></div><p>The above modified statement is, in my opinion, much more accurate.</p><p>As a software developer/general nerd, I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about technology. As a private pilot, I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about aviation. I've watched movies with people from all kinds of professions who cringe when their particular area of expertise is represented on screen. And don't get me started on those painful scenes in which actors who obviously have never picked up a musical instrument in their life try to play the role of a musician.</p><p>On the aviation aspect, one of my personal favourites was a movie I saw years ago (can't remember what it was) in which someone is flying a single-engine Cessna, and occasionally "the bad guys" would call him on his cell phone, and he would shut off the engine when this happened because he didn't want them to know he was "coming for them". Every time he did this, the Cessna would nose down and start plummeting to the ground, just to add some suspense. Because, of course, an airplane couldn't possibly, you know, glide for a little while&mdash; especially not a Cessna, which is so prone to dropping like a rock without engine power.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Computers/technology is n't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger general rant in which all of the fields of anything are abused for your viewing pleasure.The above modified statement is , in my opinion , much more accurate.As a software developer/general nerd , I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about technology .
As a private pilot , I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about aviation .
I 've watched movies with people from all kinds of professions who cringe when their particular area of expertise is represented on screen .
And do n't get me started on those painful scenes in which actors who obviously have never picked up a musical instrument in their life try to play the role of a musician.On the aviation aspect , one of my personal favourites was a movie I saw years ago ( ca n't remember what it was ) in which someone is flying a single-engine Cessna , and occasionally " the bad guys " would call him on his cell phone , and he would shut off the engine when this happened because he did n't want them to know he was " coming for them " .
Every time he did this , the Cessna would nose down and start plummeting to the ground , just to add some suspense .
Because , of course , an airplane could n't possibly , you know , glide for a little while    especially not a Cessna , which is so prone to dropping like a rock without engine power .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Computers/technology isn't accurate in films but that is a small part of a much larger general rant in which all of the fields of anything are abused for your viewing pleasure.The above modified statement is, in my opinion, much more accurate.As a software developer/general nerd, I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about technology.
As a private pilot, I cringe whenever someone on screen starts talking about aviation.
I've watched movies with people from all kinds of professions who cringe when their particular area of expertise is represented on screen.
And don't get me started on those painful scenes in which actors who obviously have never picked up a musical instrument in their life try to play the role of a musician.On the aviation aspect, one of my personal favourites was a movie I saw years ago (can't remember what it was) in which someone is flying a single-engine Cessna, and occasionally "the bad guys" would call him on his cell phone, and he would shut off the engine when this happened because he didn't want them to know he was "coming for them".
Every time he did this, the Cessna would nose down and start plummeting to the ground, just to add some suspense.
Because, of course, an airplane couldn't possibly, you know, glide for a little while— especially not a Cessna, which is so prone to dropping like a rock without engine power.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275890</id>
	<title>HPAV Crowd Then and Now</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1267128360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Time wise, if we assume Hollywood lags about 10 years behind the times then they are accurate suprisingly. Back in the days when ACiD, TRiBES and iCE were waging a holy war of ANSI art packs across the BBS era and when USENET was full of useful information rather then spam and people still cared about blue boxes the scene was largely '))&gt;&gt;{</p><p>P.S. Anyone know where I can find the old ANSI animation "The Slug"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Time wise , if we assume Hollywood lags about 10 years behind the times then they are accurate suprisingly .
Back in the days when ACiD , TRiBES and iCE were waging a holy war of ANSI art packs across the BBS era and when USENET was full of useful information rather then spam and people still cared about blue boxes the scene was largely ' ) ) &gt; &gt; { P.S .
Anyone know where I can find the old ANSI animation " The Slug " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Time wise, if we assume Hollywood lags about 10 years behind the times then they are accurate suprisingly.
Back in the days when ACiD, TRiBES and iCE were waging a holy war of ANSI art packs across the BBS era and when USENET was full of useful information rather then spam and people still cared about blue boxes the scene was largely '))&gt;&gt;{P.S.
Anyone know where I can find the old ANSI animation "The Slug"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31279946</id>
	<title>Re:50 years?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267103940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Who had hacker movies in 1960?  Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?</p></div><p>

The Original Italian Job from 1969.  In that movie they hack the traffic computer in Turin to create a traffic nightmare allowing them to escape in their Mini Coopers.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who had hacker movies in 1960 ?
Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games ?
The Original Italian Job from 1969 .
In that movie they hack the traffic computer in Turin to create a traffic nightmare allowing them to escape in their Mini Coopers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who had hacker movies in 1960?
Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?
The Original Italian Job from 1969.
In that movie they hack the traffic computer in Turin to create a traffic nightmare allowing them to escape in their Mini Coopers.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278094</id>
	<title>Re:How about Racism in Hacking films?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267094280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go watch Office Space.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go watch Office Space .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go watch Office Space.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275240</id>
	<title>50 years?</title>
	<author>Nukenbar</author>
	<datestamp>1267126020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Who had hacker movies in 1960?  Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Who had hacker movies in 1960 ?
Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who had hacker movies in 1960?
Can anyone name a hacker movie off the top of his head before War Games?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276220</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Skarecrow77</author>
	<datestamp>1267129680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is normal for Hollywood. Look at their depictions of firearms or automobiles.</p><p>Every 9mm pistol sounds like it's got a subwoofer hidden in the barrel, and can one-shot-one-kill anybody it's aimed at (as long as the hero is pulling the trigger).</p><p>Every ford focus and subaru station wagon can drift around corners in city traffic at 80mph, avoding cops and pedestrians alike, again as long as the protaganist is driving. (notice that the cops, who actually have presumably taken agressive driving courses, always run into garbage trucks)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is normal for Hollywood .
Look at their depictions of firearms or automobiles.Every 9mm pistol sounds like it 's got a subwoofer hidden in the barrel , and can one-shot-one-kill anybody it 's aimed at ( as long as the hero is pulling the trigger ) .Every ford focus and subaru station wagon can drift around corners in city traffic at 80mph , avoding cops and pedestrians alike , again as long as the protaganist is driving .
( notice that the cops , who actually have presumably taken agressive driving courses , always run into garbage trucks )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is normal for Hollywood.
Look at their depictions of firearms or automobiles.Every 9mm pistol sounds like it's got a subwoofer hidden in the barrel, and can one-shot-one-kill anybody it's aimed at (as long as the hero is pulling the trigger).Every ford focus and subaru station wagon can drift around corners in city traffic at 80mph, avoding cops and pedestrians alike, again as long as the protaganist is driving.
(notice that the cops, who actually have presumably taken agressive driving courses, always run into garbage trucks)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278450</id>
	<title>Re:Search burbling, no cursors, huge fonts</title>
	<author>BitwizeGHC</author>
	<datestamp>1267095600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Wii makes little beeping sounds that grow and fade in volume when it is connecting or downloading.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Wii makes little beeping sounds that grow and fade in volume when it is connecting or downloading .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Wii makes little beeping sounds that grow and fade in volume when it is connecting or downloading.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275084</id>
	<title>"Teenaged whiz-kids"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267125360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Welcome back to the mid-90s. Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line? They probably use the World Wide Web too, from Mosaic or something, surfing through cyberspace.

Now I feel like washing out my mouth.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome back to the mid-90s .
Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line ?
They probably use the World Wide Web too , from Mosaic or something , surfing through cyberspace .
Now I feel like washing out my mouth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome back to the mid-90s.
Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line?
They probably use the World Wide Web too, from Mosaic or something, surfing through cyberspace.
Now I feel like washing out my mouth.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275680</id>
	<title>Re:50 years?</title>
	<author>doug</author>
	<datestamp>1267127700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  1960s movies aren't my thing.  <i> Tron </i> was the only pre-War Games movie that I thought of.  You should RTFA because we have all seen 4 of the 6 listed before War Games.  </p><p> - doug </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>1960s movies are n't my thing .
Tron was the only pre-War Games movie that I thought of .
You should RTFA because we have all seen 4 of the 6 listed before War Games .
- doug</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  1960s movies aren't my thing.
Tron  was the only pre-War Games movie that I thought of.
You should RTFA because we have all seen 4 of the 6 listed before War Games.
- doug </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31282580</id>
	<title>You were saying.. ?</title>
	<author>Madsy</author>
	<datestamp>1267176660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>From the movie Clear and present danger :  <a href="http://www.mechcore.net/images/clear-and-present-danger-code.png" title="mechcore.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.mechcore.net/images/clear-and-present-danger-code.png</a> [mechcore.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>From the movie Clear and present danger : http : //www.mechcore.net/images/clear-and-present-danger-code.png [ mechcore.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From the movie Clear and present danger :  http://www.mechcore.net/images/clear-and-present-danger-code.png [mechcore.net]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277812</id>
	<title>Re:50 years?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267093200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes? Not sure of the date on that one, though.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes ?
Not sure of the date on that one , though .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes?
Not sure of the date on that one, though.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31282058</id>
	<title>Not just movies, TV shows too.</title>
	<author>antdude</author>
	<datestamp>1267126080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An example with 24 where Jack and Chloe were looking at Pine v4.44: See <a href="http://deflexion.com/2006/03/pine-in-fortune-magazine-and-on-tv" title="deflexion.com">http://deflexion.com/2006/03/pine-in-fortune-magazine-and-on-tv</a> [deflexion.com] for HD screen captures. I mentioned them in my original newsgroup/usenet thread in <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.pine/browse\_frm/thread/81bfe60f7300713c/9fae5db5f1015572?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=24+pine+HDTV#9fae5db5f1015572" title="google.com">http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.pine/browse\_frm/thread/81bfe60f7300713c/9fae5db5f1015572?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=24+pine+HDTV#9fae5db5f1015572</a> [google.com]<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An example with 24 where Jack and Chloe were looking at Pine v4.44 : See http : //deflexion.com/2006/03/pine-in-fortune-magazine-and-on-tv [ deflexion.com ] for HD screen captures .
I mentioned them in my original newsgroup/usenet thread in http : //groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.pine/browse \ _frm/thread/81bfe60f7300713c/9fae5db5f1015572 ? hl = en&amp;ie = UTF-8&amp;q = 24 + pine + HDTV # 9fae5db5f1015572 [ google.com ] .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An example with 24 where Jack and Chloe were looking at Pine v4.44: See http://deflexion.com/2006/03/pine-in-fortune-magazine-and-on-tv [deflexion.com] for HD screen captures.
I mentioned them in my original newsgroup/usenet thread in http://groups.google.com/group/comp.mail.pine/browse\_frm/thread/81bfe60f7300713c/9fae5db5f1015572?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=24+pine+HDTV#9fae5db5f1015572 [google.com] ...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31276618</id>
	<title>Re:"Teenaged whiz-kids"</title>
	<author>The Archon V2.0</author>
	<datestamp>1267131240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Welcome back to the mid-90s. Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line?</p></div><p>No, dude, they use.... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal\_Entry" title="wikipedia.org">TERMINAL ENTRY</a> [wikipedia.org]. Hackers AND terrorists! It's two great tastes that taste like Z-movie together!</p><p>

(For the truly bored, a semi-dramatic reading of box blurb <a href="http://loadingreadyrun.com/videos/view/429/Phailhas-23" title="loadingreadyrun.com">available here</a> [loadingreadyrun.com], 4:20ish-5:20ish, after annoying commercial message.)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Welcome back to the mid-90s .
Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line ? No , dude , they use.... TERMINAL ENTRY [ wikipedia.org ] .
Hackers AND terrorists !
It 's two great tastes that taste like Z-movie together !
( For the truly bored , a semi-dramatic reading of box blurb available here [ loadingreadyrun.com ] , 4 : 20ish-5 : 20ish , after annoying commercial message .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Welcome back to the mid-90s.
Do these teenaged whiz-kids do their personal computer hacking on-line?No, dude, they use.... TERMINAL ENTRY [wikipedia.org].
Hackers AND terrorists!
It's two great tastes that taste like Z-movie together!
(For the truly bored, a semi-dramatic reading of box blurb available here [loadingreadyrun.com], 4:20ish-5:20ish, after annoying commercial message.
)
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278768</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>JohnnyBGod</author>
	<datestamp>1267096800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What... like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&amp;playnext\_from=TL&amp;videos=C\_cof3r8C8U&amp;v=hkDD03yeLnU" title="youtube.com">this</a> [youtube.com], <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&amp;playnext\_from=TL&amp;videos=6vnMAi8B7yo&amp;v=O2rGTXHvPCQ" title="youtube.com">this</a> [youtube.com], <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=3uoM5kfZIQ0&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com">this</a> [youtube.com] or <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=mRU1JKHbn7Y&amp;feature=related" title="youtube.com">this</a> [youtube.com]?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What... like this [ youtube.com ] , this [ youtube.com ] , this [ youtube.com ] or this [ youtube.com ] ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What... like this [youtube.com], this [youtube.com], this [youtube.com] or this [youtube.com]?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31279566</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1267101540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Maturity in IT really means that you're at the point where you finally realize, 'there really is no magic'.</p></div><p>Huh? Why would you think there was magic in the first place? Does anybody start a career in IT believing it is run on magic?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maturity in IT really means that you 're at the point where you finally realize , 'there really is no magic'.Huh ?
Why would you think there was magic in the first place ?
Does anybody start a career in IT believing it is run on magic ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maturity in IT really means that you're at the point where you finally realize, 'there really is no magic'.Huh?
Why would you think there was magic in the first place?
Does anybody start a career in IT believing it is run on magic?
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275614</id>
	<title>Re:Sneakers</title>
	<author>evilviper</author>
	<datestamp>1267127400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.</p></div></blockquote><p>"War Games"</p><p>Serious subject.<br>Culturally significant.<br>Perhaps the most realistic "hacking" in Hollywood history.<br>All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.<br>Dated today, but holds up very well.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever .
" War Games " Serious subject.Culturally significant.Perhaps the most realistic " hacking " in Hollywood history.All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.Dated today , but holds up very well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sneakers is the best hacking movie ever.
"War Games"Serious subject.Culturally significant.Perhaps the most realistic "hacking" in Hollywood history.All tech involved was just a small step removed from the real thing.Dated today, but holds up very well.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31288248</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267211760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whats mature about hibernating in a basement in front a computer all day and night.  You should be out enjoying life, chasing skirt...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whats mature about hibernating in a basement in front a computer all day and night .
You should be out enjoying life , chasing skirt.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whats mature about hibernating in a basement in front a computer all day and night.
You should be out enjoying life, chasing skirt...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31275212</id>
	<title>Oh really?</title>
	<author>PolyDwarf</author>
	<datestamp>1267125960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm hacking the Gibson.  Your argument is invalid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm hacking the Gibson .
Your argument is invalid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm hacking the Gibson.
Your argument is invalid.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277292</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267090800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What the heck do psychics have to do with science?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What the heck do psychics have to do with science ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the heck do psychics have to do with science?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31277334</id>
	<title>Re:Really?</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1267090980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hackers are paranoid. Hell look at<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. users and how insane half of them are about privacy. And hackers, ones in north america rather than russia/china are generally pretty young. Often university or even highschool aged. Older than that and most of them get out of it or get a job. I mean not everyone has money to full time hack. And hacking is 50\% contacts and being on the cutting edge. You won't be the best unless you spend a lot of time at it.<br> <br>As for mature, they are (mostly) doing something criminal for fun. And they are very very smart. Which only leaves immature to explain their actions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hackers are paranoid .
Hell look at / .
users and how insane half of them are about privacy .
And hackers , ones in north america rather than russia/china are generally pretty young .
Often university or even highschool aged .
Older than that and most of them get out of it or get a job .
I mean not everyone has money to full time hack .
And hacking is 50 \ % contacts and being on the cutting edge .
You wo n't be the best unless you spend a lot of time at it .
As for mature , they are ( mostly ) doing something criminal for fun .
And they are very very smart .
Which only leaves immature to explain their actions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hackers are paranoid.
Hell look at /.
users and how insane half of them are about privacy.
And hackers, ones in north america rather than russia/china are generally pretty young.
Often university or even highschool aged.
Older than that and most of them get out of it or get a job.
I mean not everyone has money to full time hack.
And hacking is 50\% contacts and being on the cutting edge.
You won't be the best unless you spend a lot of time at it.
As for mature, they are (mostly) doing something criminal for fun.
And they are very very smart.
Which only leaves immature to explain their actions.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31278148</id>
	<title>Re:Search burbling, no cursors, huge fonts</title>
	<author>mcgrew</author>
	<datestamp>1267094460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I try to allow for artistic license, but real computers DON'T MAKE CUTE R2D2 NOISES WHEN THEY'RE SEARCHING!<br></i><br>Well, they CAN, you know, if you want them to. I once had a boss named Dave and changed all his Windows sounds to samples of HAL from 2001. "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid you can't do that."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I try to allow for artistic license , but real computers DO N'T MAKE CUTE R2D2 NOISES WHEN THEY 'RE SEARCHING ! Well , they CAN , you know , if you want them to .
I once had a boss named Dave and changed all his Windows sounds to samples of HAL from 2001 .
" I 'm sorry , Dave , I 'm afraid you ca n't do that .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I try to allow for artistic license, but real computers DON'T MAKE CUTE R2D2 NOISES WHEN THEY'RE SEARCHING!Well, they CAN, you know, if you want them to.
I once had a boss named Dave and changed all his Windows sounds to samples of HAL from 2001.
"I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid you can't do that.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31282314</id>
	<title>Re:You call that well treated?</title>
	<author>xtracto</author>
	<datestamp>1267215540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well gee! part of what makes movies interesting is that they are a <b>dramatization</b>. I am sure any lawyer will tell you that the average case is not as  interesting as the ones in the movies (and chicks don't usually go dancing like in Chicago).</p><p>Think for a moment about a very successful and known hacker like Gary McKinnon; imagine a movie depicting his hacking:</p><p>- Well let's see, nasa.gov has an ip of   74.203.241.33, so I will run an app to look for computers in  74.203.241.xxx and see which have RDP access....</p><p>- Gee wiz! there are like 20 computers with RDP open, lets try to connect to one and use this bruteforce warez I downloaded to enter..</p><p>- nice, the windows computer didn't have password.. lets just install PC Anywhere and download some pron they have here.</p><p>
&nbsp;</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well gee !
part of what makes movies interesting is that they are a dramatization .
I am sure any lawyer will tell you that the average case is not as interesting as the ones in the movies ( and chicks do n't usually go dancing like in Chicago ) .Think for a moment about a very successful and known hacker like Gary McKinnon ; imagine a movie depicting his hacking : - Well let 's see , nasa.gov has an ip of 74.203.241.33 , so I will run an app to look for computers in 74.203.241.xxx and see which have RDP access....- Gee wiz !
there are like 20 computers with RDP open , lets try to connect to one and use this bruteforce warez I downloaded to enter..- nice , the windows computer did n't have password.. lets just install PC Anywhere and download some pron they have here .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well gee!
part of what makes movies interesting is that they are a dramatization.
I am sure any lawyer will tell you that the average case is not as  interesting as the ones in the movies (and chicks don't usually go dancing like in Chicago).Think for a moment about a very successful and known hacker like Gary McKinnon; imagine a movie depicting his hacking:- Well let's see, nasa.gov has an ip of   74.203.241.33, so I will run an app to look for computers in  74.203.241.xxx and see which have RDP access....- Gee wiz!
there are like 20 computers with RDP open, lets try to connect to one and use this bruteforce warez I downloaded to enter..- nice, the windows computer didn't have password.. lets just install PC Anywhere and download some pron they have here.
 </sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_25_1619203.31274822</id>
	<title>That's right, bitches.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267124400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I get first post.</p><p>Hollywood is going to treat me like an illegal immigrant!</p><p>Bollywood will steal my wallet while I'm not looking.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I get first post.Hollywood is going to treat me like an illegal immigrant ! Bollywood will steal my wallet while I 'm not looking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get first post.Hollywood is going to treat me like an illegal immigrant!Bollywood will steal my wallet while I'm not looking.</sentencetext>
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