<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_24_185235</id>
	<title>Latvian "Robin Hood" Hacker Leaks Bank Details</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266999060000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>eldavojohn writes <i>"Move over Russell Crowe, an anonymous hacker in Latvia is being <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8533641.stm">hailed as a real life modern Robin Hood</a>.  The hacker refers to himself as 'Neo,' claims allegiance with the Fourth Awakening People's Army, and is outing banks that are capitalizing off of the horrible economic status Latvia is currently suffering from.  No word on how he is acquiring the information but it is slowly being leaked to TV sources via Twitter and the common people love him.  The hacker is thought to be based in Britain but a TV reporter pointed out the fine line Neo is walking, 'On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data ... and he actually has committed a crime. But at the same time there is value for the public in the sense that now a lot of information gets disclosed and the whole system maybe becomes a little more transparent.'  An example of a juicy tidbit he revealed is that managers of a Latvian bank did not take the salary cuts they promised they would after the government bailed them out of economic trouble.  You can imagine that taxpayers were upset and thankful they knew this information."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>eldavojohn writes " Move over Russell Crowe , an anonymous hacker in Latvia is being hailed as a real life modern Robin Hood .
The hacker refers to himself as 'Neo, ' claims allegiance with the Fourth Awakening People 's Army , and is outing banks that are capitalizing off of the horrible economic status Latvia is currently suffering from .
No word on how he is acquiring the information but it is slowly being leaked to TV sources via Twitter and the common people love him .
The hacker is thought to be based in Britain but a TV reporter pointed out the fine line Neo is walking , 'On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data ... and he actually has committed a crime .
But at the same time there is value for the public in the sense that now a lot of information gets disclosed and the whole system maybe becomes a little more transparent .
' An example of a juicy tidbit he revealed is that managers of a Latvian bank did not take the salary cuts they promised they would after the government bailed them out of economic trouble .
You can imagine that taxpayers were upset and thankful they knew this information .
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<sentencetext>eldavojohn writes "Move over Russell Crowe, an anonymous hacker in Latvia is being hailed as a real life modern Robin Hood.
The hacker refers to himself as 'Neo,' claims allegiance with the Fourth Awakening People's Army, and is outing banks that are capitalizing off of the horrible economic status Latvia is currently suffering from.
No word on how he is acquiring the information but it is slowly being leaked to TV sources via Twitter and the common people love him.
The hacker is thought to be based in Britain but a TV reporter pointed out the fine line Neo is walking, 'On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data ... and he actually has committed a crime.
But at the same time there is value for the public in the sense that now a lot of information gets disclosed and the whole system maybe becomes a little more transparent.
'  An example of a juicy tidbit he revealed is that managers of a Latvian bank did not take the salary cuts they promised they would after the government bailed them out of economic trouble.
You can imagine that taxpayers were upset and thankful they knew this information.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31263876</id>
	<title>Can't help myself</title>
	<author>msavory</author>
	<datestamp>1265102280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bunch of Fapa's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bunch of Fapa 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bunch of Fapa's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264416</id>
	<title>Anonymous Coward</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265104800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet they have much faster internet than you have. Just check download speed in Latvia neighbours Lithuania etc..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet they have much faster internet than you have .
Just check download speed in Latvia neighbours Lithuania etc. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet they have much faster internet than you have.
Just check download speed in Latvia neighbours Lithuania etc..</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31268500</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>cduffy</author>
	<datestamp>1265131620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Of course, "stealing confidential data" (from a non-government source), where the confidentiality is self-defined by the owner, is exactly the kind of DMCA type violation we regularly decry here. What you (and TFA) are suggesting is that the act of acquiring the data is a crime in and of itself, rather than the criminal use of the data.</p></div></blockquote><p>These are trivially distinguishable, even in concept.</p><p>In the case of hacking into an external system, one is (a) making false representations to a third party (via their computer systems), and/or (b) putting expense and/or damages onto a third party (ie. time spent by staff analyzing and responding to an attempted attack).</p><p>In the case of cracking a protection layer around a piece of software or data which an individual "owns", by contrast, there is no interaction with any third-party (presuming that the work is being done within an isolated sandbox); thus, no false representations, and no ability to incur 3rd-party expense.</p><p>While other points of distinction are certainly possible, I believe this is sufficient to explain why a reasonable individual can consider laws against hacking into 3rd-party systems just while simultaneously considering laws such as those aspects of the DMCA which can prohibit tinkering with one's own property unjust.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , " stealing confidential data " ( from a non-government source ) , where the confidentiality is self-defined by the owner , is exactly the kind of DMCA type violation we regularly decry here .
What you ( and TFA ) are suggesting is that the act of acquiring the data is a crime in and of itself , rather than the criminal use of the data.These are trivially distinguishable , even in concept.In the case of hacking into an external system , one is ( a ) making false representations to a third party ( via their computer systems ) , and/or ( b ) putting expense and/or damages onto a third party ( ie .
time spent by staff analyzing and responding to an attempted attack ) .In the case of cracking a protection layer around a piece of software or data which an individual " owns " , by contrast , there is no interaction with any third-party ( presuming that the work is being done within an isolated sandbox ) ; thus , no false representations , and no ability to incur 3rd-party expense.While other points of distinction are certainly possible , I believe this is sufficient to explain why a reasonable individual can consider laws against hacking into 3rd-party systems just while simultaneously considering laws such as those aspects of the DMCA which can prohibit tinkering with one 's own property unjust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, "stealing confidential data" (from a non-government source), where the confidentiality is self-defined by the owner, is exactly the kind of DMCA type violation we regularly decry here.
What you (and TFA) are suggesting is that the act of acquiring the data is a crime in and of itself, rather than the criminal use of the data.These are trivially distinguishable, even in concept.In the case of hacking into an external system, one is (a) making false representations to a third party (via their computer systems), and/or (b) putting expense and/or damages onto a third party (ie.
time spent by staff analyzing and responding to an attempted attack).In the case of cracking a protection layer around a piece of software or data which an individual "owns", by contrast, there is no interaction with any third-party (presuming that the work is being done within an isolated sandbox); thus, no false representations, and no ability to incur 3rd-party expense.While other points of distinction are certainly possible, I believe this is sufficient to explain why a reasonable individual can consider laws against hacking into 3rd-party systems just while simultaneously considering laws such as those aspects of the DMCA which can prohibit tinkering with one's own property unjust.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264142</id>
	<title>Not that much different...</title>
	<author>MoriT</author>
	<datestamp>1265103600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...than investigative reporters going through people's trash.

Now, releasing those bank account numbers so individuals who so wished could withdraw what they like, that would be Robin Hood-style.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...than investigative reporters going through people 's trash .
Now , releasing those bank account numbers so individuals who so wished could withdraw what they like , that would be Robin Hood-style .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...than investigative reporters going through people's trash.
Now, releasing those bank account numbers so individuals who so wished could withdraw what they like, that would be Robin Hood-style.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264264</id>
	<title>Someone Mentioned this a Few Days Back.</title>
	<author>BJ\_Covert\_Action</author>
	<datestamp>1265104080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't recall who, or on what thread, but someone posted a comment a couple days back that said something along the lines of, "People used to cheer for bank robbers. It will happen again." I figure this was a reference to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John\_Dillinger" title="wikipedia.org">John DIllinger</a> [wikipedia.org] and the like. It appears that whoever it was that said that has some decent predictive powers...or at least a good bit of luck every once in awhile.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't recall who , or on what thread , but someone posted a comment a couple days back that said something along the lines of , " People used to cheer for bank robbers .
It will happen again .
" I figure this was a reference to John DIllinger [ wikipedia.org ] and the like .
It appears that whoever it was that said that has some decent predictive powers...or at least a good bit of luck every once in awhile .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't recall who, or on what thread, but someone posted a comment a couple days back that said something along the lines of, "People used to cheer for bank robbers.
It will happen again.
" I figure this was a reference to John DIllinger [wikipedia.org] and the like.
It appears that whoever it was that said that has some decent predictive powers...or at least a good bit of luck every once in awhile.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265296</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265108280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well do you want people poking around your accounts even if they are not giving information that will lead to identity thief.</p><p>Say for example the following...<br>They see a bunch of sales at a liquor store. Then they have an idea that you are a drinker/partier and give this information to your health insurance company so they can deny coverage.</p><p>Or How much porn you actually buy, say you were running for politics or put on the impression you are of strong moral values.</p><p>Or lets just say you are spending a little extra and not letting your wife know and that information is given to her and jump to a conclusion that you are cheating or doing something else.</p><p>Lets just access your EZ-Pass information and find out you have been speeding.</p><p>There are a lot of laws on the books. Most likely you have broken a few yourself.   The reason for the unreasonable search laws and a attempt to protect privacy is because otherwise we will be drowning in fines and legal suits for our lives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well do you want people poking around your accounts even if they are not giving information that will lead to identity thief.Say for example the following...They see a bunch of sales at a liquor store .
Then they have an idea that you are a drinker/partier and give this information to your health insurance company so they can deny coverage.Or How much porn you actually buy , say you were running for politics or put on the impression you are of strong moral values.Or lets just say you are spending a little extra and not letting your wife know and that information is given to her and jump to a conclusion that you are cheating or doing something else.Lets just access your EZ-Pass information and find out you have been speeding.There are a lot of laws on the books .
Most likely you have broken a few yourself .
The reason for the unreasonable search laws and a attempt to protect privacy is because otherwise we will be drowning in fines and legal suits for our lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well do you want people poking around your accounts even if they are not giving information that will lead to identity thief.Say for example the following...They see a bunch of sales at a liquor store.
Then they have an idea that you are a drinker/partier and give this information to your health insurance company so they can deny coverage.Or How much porn you actually buy, say you were running for politics or put on the impression you are of strong moral values.Or lets just say you are spending a little extra and not letting your wife know and that information is given to her and jump to a conclusion that you are cheating or doing something else.Lets just access your EZ-Pass information and find out you have been speeding.There are a lot of laws on the books.
Most likely you have broken a few yourself.
The reason for the unreasonable search laws and a attempt to protect privacy is because otherwise we will be drowning in fines and legal suits for our lives.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265472</id>
	<title>Re:"Neo"</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1265108940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bet he'd be really pissed if he's had the name for a decade or so.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bet he 'd be really pissed if he 's had the name for a decade or so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bet he'd be really pissed if he's had the name for a decade or so.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31263866</id>
	<title>Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>JoshuaZ</author>
	<datestamp>1265102220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ok. Clearly the fact that the pay cuts for the executives didn't occur is something that this individual should have leaked and was the right thing to do. ( Why didn't the government insist on minimal transparency about the salaries in the first place? Because apparently corruption and lobbying is the same everywhere). Frankly, in TFA I don't see any information listed that shouldn't have become public. It doesn't look like they leaked anything that allowed people to take money from accounts or to steal identities or to create damage to the banks' computer networks. If there's any indication that Neo has done anything bad (other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias) I don't see it in TFA.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok. Clearly the fact that the pay cuts for the executives did n't occur is something that this individual should have leaked and was the right thing to do .
( Why did n't the government insist on minimal transparency about the salaries in the first place ?
Because apparently corruption and lobbying is the same everywhere ) .
Frankly , in TFA I do n't see any information listed that should n't have become public .
It does n't look like they leaked anything that allowed people to take money from accounts or to steal identities or to create damage to the banks ' computer networks .
If there 's any indication that Neo has done anything bad ( other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias ) I do n't see it in TFA .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok. Clearly the fact that the pay cuts for the executives didn't occur is something that this individual should have leaked and was the right thing to do.
( Why didn't the government insist on minimal transparency about the salaries in the first place?
Because apparently corruption and lobbying is the same everywhere).
Frankly, in TFA I don't see any information listed that shouldn't have become public.
It doesn't look like they leaked anything that allowed people to take money from accounts or to steal identities or to create damage to the banks' computer networks.
If there's any indication that Neo has done anything bad (other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias) I don't see it in TFA.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264176</id>
	<title>How about here in the states?</title>
	<author>greymond</author>
	<datestamp>1265103720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to see someone give out information on the financial businesses that received bailout funds, but rather than just hearing about executives at bankrupt companies getting paid millions in bonuses, how about we just be told their bank account numbers, routing numbers, and other personal information so we can bail ourselves out of their mess?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to see someone give out information on the financial businesses that received bailout funds , but rather than just hearing about executives at bankrupt companies getting paid millions in bonuses , how about we just be told their bank account numbers , routing numbers , and other personal information so we can bail ourselves out of their mess ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to see someone give out information on the financial businesses that received bailout funds, but rather than just hearing about executives at bankrupt companies getting paid millions in bonuses, how about we just be told their bank account numbers, routing numbers, and other personal information so we can bail ourselves out of their mess?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31271914</id>
	<title>Too bad not Trinity</title>
	<author>szo</author>
	<datestamp>1267112340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cracking the IRS d-base<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cracking the IRS d-base : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cracking the IRS d-base :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31269704</id>
	<title>Re:If at first you don't succeed..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267090080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They won't.  We need the People's Front of Judea!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They wo n't .
We need the People 's Front of Judea !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They won't.
We need the People's Front of Judea!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264138</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>jayme0227</author>
	<datestamp>1265103540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I suppose it would be better if I could actually read what was written in the pictures, but really, I only lost about 38 seconds of productivity. Without a sense of context, the humor in most of those was lost on me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I suppose it would be better if I could actually read what was written in the pictures , but really , I only lost about 38 seconds of productivity .
Without a sense of context , the humor in most of those was lost on me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I suppose it would be better if I could actually read what was written in the pictures, but really, I only lost about 38 seconds of productivity.
Without a sense of context, the humor in most of those was lost on me.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31263972</id>
	<title>His service....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265102700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>...was almost as valuable as that of the hacker(s) who brought us the Climategate files from East Anglia.  The crime of the Latvian Bankers is small potatoes compared to the scam those capitalizing on feared but unproven anthropogenic climate change are running.</htmltext>
<tokenext>...was almost as valuable as that of the hacker ( s ) who brought us the Climategate files from East Anglia .
The crime of the Latvian Bankers is small potatoes compared to the scam those capitalizing on feared but unproven anthropogenic climate change are running .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...was almost as valuable as that of the hacker(s) who brought us the Climategate files from East Anglia.
The crime of the Latvian Bankers is small potatoes compared to the scam those capitalizing on feared but unproven anthropogenic climate change are running.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264114</id>
	<title>twitter?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265103420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the actual link or username for said twitter feed? No article states it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the actual link or username for said twitter feed ?
No article states it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the actual link or username for said twitter feed?
No article states it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31263874</id>
	<title>Dear Robin Hood</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265102280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>After you have enlightened <a href="http://baselinescenario.com/2010/02/23/banking-industry-sicker-more-concentrated/" title="baselinescenario.com" rel="nofollow"> Goldman Sachs</a> [baselinescenario.com], please give some money to the U.S.A  to pay  the remaining balance of  its lease of Alaska from Russia.</p><p>Yours In Riga,<br>K. Trout</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>After you have enlightened Goldman Sachs [ baselinescenario.com ] , please give some money to the U.S.A to pay the remaining balance of its lease of Alaska from Russia.Yours In Riga,K .
Trout</tokentext>
<sentencetext>After you have enlightened  Goldman Sachs [baselinescenario.com], please give some money to the U.S.A  to pay  the remaining balance of  its lease of Alaska from Russia.Yours In Riga,K.
Trout</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265486</id>
	<title>Re:Someone Mentioned this a Few Days Back.</title>
	<author>CannonballHead</author>
	<datestamp>1265109000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Cheering for bank robbers depends on whether or not your money was in said bank...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</htmltext>
<tokenext>Cheering for bank robbers depends on whether or not your money was in said bank... : P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cheering for bank robbers depends on whether or not your money was in said bank... :P</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264482</id>
	<title>Hacker? Not really</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265105040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think calling the guy a hacker is a bit over the top. Basically what he did was change the document id numbers in the URL. The information he was accessing was not secured in any sensible way: the login page could be bypassed by simply entering an address by hand. It's pretty much an epic fail of the company that made the system (unless the flaw was introduced intentionally for some reason).

Source: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=1&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.diena.lv\%2Flat\%2Fpolitics\%2Fhot\%2Fneo-no-4ata-mes-bijam-parsteigti-ka-mums-tik-ilgi-lava-datus-kopet&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en" title="google.com" rel="nofollow">http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=1&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.diena.lv\%2Flat\%2Fpolitics\%2Fhot\%2Fneo-no-4ata-mes-bijam-parsteigti-ka-mums-tik-ilgi-lava-datus-kopet&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en</a> [google.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think calling the guy a hacker is a bit over the top .
Basically what he did was change the document id numbers in the URL .
The information he was accessing was not secured in any sensible way : the login page could be bypassed by simply entering an address by hand .
It 's pretty much an epic fail of the company that made the system ( unless the flaw was introduced intentionally for some reason ) .
Source : http : //translate.google.com/translate ? js = y&amp;prev = \ _t&amp;hl = en&amp;ie = UTF-8&amp;layout = 1&amp;eotf = 1&amp;u = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fwww.diena.lv \ % 2Flat \ % 2Fpolitics \ % 2Fhot \ % 2Fneo-no-4ata-mes-bijam-parsteigti-ka-mums-tik-ilgi-lava-datus-kopet&amp;sl = auto&amp;tl = en [ google.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think calling the guy a hacker is a bit over the top.
Basically what he did was change the document id numbers in the URL.
The information he was accessing was not secured in any sensible way: the login page could be bypassed by simply entering an address by hand.
It's pretty much an epic fail of the company that made the system (unless the flaw was introduced intentionally for some reason).
Source: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=1&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.diena.lv\%2Flat\%2Fpolitics\%2Fhot\%2Fneo-no-4ata-mes-bijam-parsteigti-ka-mums-tik-ilgi-lava-datus-kopet&amp;sl=auto&amp;tl=en [google.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265680</id>
	<title>Neo??</title>
	<author>stonedcat</author>
	<datestamp>1265109900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How has this not been tagged "thematrix" yet?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How has this not been tagged " thematrix " yet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How has this not been tagged "thematrix" yet?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264034</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Pete Venkman</author>
	<datestamp>1265103060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems to me that this could be the work of a whistleblower, but then I don't see why he/she would claim to be a hacker--unless Latvia does not protect against retaliation toward whistleblowers.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems to me that this could be the work of a whistleblower , but then I do n't see why he/she would claim to be a hacker--unless Latvia does not protect against retaliation toward whistleblowers .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems to me that this could be the work of a whistleblower, but then I don't see why he/she would claim to be a hacker--unless Latvia does not protect against retaliation toward whistleblowers.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31290608</id>
	<title>so what....</title>
	<author>hesaigo999ca</author>
	<datestamp>1267178760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt;You can imagine that taxpayers were upset and thankful they knew this information<br>As if the people have any way of forcing the banks to do what they are supposed to do. The governments have a hard enough time keeping them honest as it is, because of the importance the banks have on a global scale, what are a few hundred angry clients going to do.... close their bank accounts...who suffers more the banks or the clients. This is the problem with the way the CEOs manage the corporations, especially when they touch so many lives in such a deep way. Short of being pulled out in the middle of the street and shot in a public display of justice, there is no way any CEO will learn this lesson. They are never accountable for anything they do, they hide behind corporate red tape. Obama even has a hard time making them do the right thing, he is one of the most powerful people on earth....but a few hundred armed with machetes waiting outside the CEOs home, wow, what a message that would send....almost sounds like Africa....almost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; You can imagine that taxpayers were upset and thankful they knew this informationAs if the people have any way of forcing the banks to do what they are supposed to do .
The governments have a hard enough time keeping them honest as it is , because of the importance the banks have on a global scale , what are a few hundred angry clients going to do.... close their bank accounts...who suffers more the banks or the clients .
This is the problem with the way the CEOs manage the corporations , especially when they touch so many lives in such a deep way .
Short of being pulled out in the middle of the street and shot in a public display of justice , there is no way any CEO will learn this lesson .
They are never accountable for anything they do , they hide behind corporate red tape .
Obama even has a hard time making them do the right thing , he is one of the most powerful people on earth....but a few hundred armed with machetes waiting outside the CEOs home , wow , what a message that would send....almost sounds like Africa....almost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt;You can imagine that taxpayers were upset and thankful they knew this informationAs if the people have any way of forcing the banks to do what they are supposed to do.
The governments have a hard enough time keeping them honest as it is, because of the importance the banks have on a global scale, what are a few hundred angry clients going to do.... close their bank accounts...who suffers more the banks or the clients.
This is the problem with the way the CEOs manage the corporations, especially when they touch so many lives in such a deep way.
Short of being pulled out in the middle of the street and shot in a public display of justice, there is no way any CEO will learn this lesson.
They are never accountable for anything they do, they hide behind corporate red tape.
Obama even has a hard time making them do the right thing, he is one of the most powerful people on earth....but a few hundred armed with machetes waiting outside the CEOs home, wow, what a message that would send....almost sounds like Africa....almost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264252</id>
	<title>Who? Wha? Huh?</title>
	<author>ArcadeNut</author>
	<datestamp>1265104020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What does Russell Crowe have to do with this again?  Maybe you mean Kevin Costner?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What does Russell Crowe have to do with this again ?
Maybe you mean Kevin Costner ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What does Russell Crowe have to do with this again?
Maybe you mean Kevin Costner?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264198</id>
	<title>Re:His service....</title>
	<author>wintercolby</author>
	<datestamp>1265103780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Mod parent as troll, please.  Absolutely nothing to do with the current topic, and is persuing an agenda for a different arena.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod parent as troll , please .
Absolutely nothing to do with the current topic , and is persuing an agenda for a different arena .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod parent as troll, please.
Absolutely nothing to do with the current topic, and is persuing an agenda for a different arena.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31271404</id>
	<title>Re:Correction to the story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267109400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The company why made software EDS (Electronic Declaration System) for Latvian Revenue Service was Exigen Services Latvia, who made millions of lats on project, however left a very trivial security hole as stated above for about three months. About 120 GB of XML Formatted data was downloaded. Three diferent security companies auditeted Revenue service servers before with serious payments involved and obviously found nothing. As on interview on national television LTV1 Exigen Services Latvia CEO Ivars Puksts said: "If you want to hide something, put it in front of you".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The company why made software EDS ( Electronic Declaration System ) for Latvian Revenue Service was Exigen Services Latvia , who made millions of lats on project , however left a very trivial security hole as stated above for about three months .
About 120 GB of XML Formatted data was downloaded .
Three diferent security companies auditeted Revenue service servers before with serious payments involved and obviously found nothing .
As on interview on national television LTV1 Exigen Services Latvia CEO Ivars Puksts said : " If you want to hide something , put it in front of you " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The company why made software EDS (Electronic Declaration System) for Latvian Revenue Service was Exigen Services Latvia, who made millions of lats on project, however left a very trivial security hole as stated above for about three months.
About 120 GB of XML Formatted data was downloaded.
Three diferent security companies auditeted Revenue service servers before with serious payments involved and obviously found nothing.
As on interview on national television LTV1 Exigen Services Latvia CEO Ivars Puksts said: "If you want to hide something, put it in front of you".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264856</id>
	<title>Re:Angle-grinder man being supplanted?</title>
	<author>CorporateSuit</author>
	<datestamp>1265106540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whoever designs a website with a 10-part, ad-laden article which OPENS A NEW WINDOW EVERY TIME YOU CLICK ON THE " GO TO PART N+1" needs his head violently pressed against a cheese grater until he fixes it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoever designs a website with a 10-part , ad-laden article which OPENS A NEW WINDOW EVERY TIME YOU CLICK ON THE " GO TO PART N + 1 " needs his head violently pressed against a cheese grater until he fixes it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoever designs a website with a 10-part, ad-laden article which OPENS A NEW WINDOW EVERY TIME YOU CLICK ON THE " GO TO PART N+1" needs his head violently pressed against a cheese grater until he fixes it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264102</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31267672</id>
	<title>Re:Someone Mentioned this a Few Days Back.</title>
	<author>mirix</author>
	<datestamp>1265123520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I always liked how Woody Guthrie put it in his song about "Pretty boy" Floyd (same era...)</p><p><i>"Some will rob you with a six-gun, and some with a fountain pen."</i></p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I always liked how Woody Guthrie put it in his song about " Pretty boy " Floyd ( same era... ) " Some will rob you with a six-gun , and some with a fountain pen .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always liked how Woody Guthrie put it in his song about "Pretty boy" Floyd (same era...)"Some will rob you with a six-gun, and some with a fountain pen.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266188</id>
	<title>"Pentagon Papers" is the cite you're looking for</title>
	<author>jeko</author>
	<datestamp>1265112360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The People have an absolute right to know what their government is doing. There's no other way for a democracy to function. Nefarious governments always try to hide behind "state security" laws. The Heroes who blow the whistle get charged with treason.</p><p>The Textbook US example from 1971 -- <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon\_Papers" title="wikipedia.org">The Pentagon Papers</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>In brief, at the time the US Government was assuring the public we were about to get out of Vietnam, they were actually planning a massive expansion. Deep Blue Patriot Daniel Ellsburg, a RAND corporation military analyst and Marine officer, handed the evidence of the lie to the New York Times. He was tried for espionage.</p><p>It's too bad we didn't have another man of Ellsburg's character and conviction when Bush was parroting, "Yellowcake, yellowcake."</p><p>Whoever this goofy kid is, I think he might be one of the few geeks who deserve the name "Neo."</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The People have an absolute right to know what their government is doing .
There 's no other way for a democracy to function .
Nefarious governments always try to hide behind " state security " laws .
The Heroes who blow the whistle get charged with treason.The Textbook US example from 1971 -- The Pentagon Papers [ wikipedia.org ] In brief , at the time the US Government was assuring the public we were about to get out of Vietnam , they were actually planning a massive expansion .
Deep Blue Patriot Daniel Ellsburg , a RAND corporation military analyst and Marine officer , handed the evidence of the lie to the New York Times .
He was tried for espionage.It 's too bad we did n't have another man of Ellsburg 's character and conviction when Bush was parroting , " Yellowcake , yellowcake .
" Whoever this goofy kid is , I think he might be one of the few geeks who deserve the name " Neo .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The People have an absolute right to know what their government is doing.
There's no other way for a democracy to function.
Nefarious governments always try to hide behind "state security" laws.
The Heroes who blow the whistle get charged with treason.The Textbook US example from 1971 -- The Pentagon Papers [wikipedia.org]In brief, at the time the US Government was assuring the public we were about to get out of Vietnam, they were actually planning a massive expansion.
Deep Blue Patriot Daniel Ellsburg, a RAND corporation military analyst and Marine officer, handed the evidence of the lie to the New York Times.
He was tried for espionage.It's too bad we didn't have another man of Ellsburg's character and conviction when Bush was parroting, "Yellowcake, yellowcake.
"Whoever this goofy kid is, I think he might be one of the few geeks who deserve the name "Neo.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266384</id>
	<title>Re:Robin the Hood...</title>
	<author>Old Man Kensey</author>
	<datestamp>1265113380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If he had read enough decent sci-fi, he'd call himself "Nick Haflinger".  The similarity is striking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If he had read enough decent sci-fi , he 'd call himself " Nick Haflinger " .
The similarity is striking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he had read enough decent sci-fi, he'd call himself "Nick Haflinger".
The similarity is striking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264032</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265906</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Marxist Hacker 42</author>
	<datestamp>1265110800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Of course not- the courts are bought and paid for representatives of the financial class.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course not- the courts are bought and paid for representatives of the financial class .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course not- the courts are bought and paid for representatives of the financial class.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31270686</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>ananthap</author>
	<datestamp>1267103400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought that a man should be presumed innocent until proven guilty. What I mean is that just because we - the general public - know of no means to acquire and publish without stealing it, that doesn't mean that there are no other ways. Could be something straight forward. Many countries have wonderful laws regarding information (that exist in theory) and are easy to exploit if you know the right persons.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought that a man should be presumed innocent until proven guilty .
What I mean is that just because we - the general public - know of no means to acquire and publish without stealing it , that does n't mean that there are no other ways .
Could be something straight forward .
Many countries have wonderful laws regarding information ( that exist in theory ) and are easy to exploit if you know the right persons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought that a man should be presumed innocent until proven guilty.
What I mean is that just because we - the general public - know of no means to acquire and publish without stealing it, that doesn't mean that there are no other ways.
Could be something straight forward.
Many countries have wonderful laws regarding information (that exist in theory) and are easy to exploit if you know the right persons.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264080</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31269994</id>
	<title>Re:If at first you don't succeed..</title>
	<author>muntis</author>
	<datestamp>1267094520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>First and second proclaimed Republic of Latvia.
Third gave independence from from USSR.
I would say, it's quite of achievement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>First and second proclaimed Republic of Latvia .
Third gave independence from from USSR .
I would say , it 's quite of achievement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First and second proclaimed Republic of Latvia.
Third gave independence from from USSR.
I would say, it's quite of achievement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31263820</id>
	<title>Neo?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265102040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ok, everything else aside, that's just lame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ok , everything else aside , that 's just lame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ok, everything else aside, that's just lame.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31269056</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Arker</author>
	<datestamp>1265137740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Well do you want people poking around your accounts even if they are not giving information that will lead to identity thief.</p></div></blockquote><p>Whether I want it to happen or not and whether it amounts to a crime or not are two entirely different questions. As also is, if a crime was committed, who specifically committed it? </p><p>From what I can tell this guy just decremented and/or incremented URLs and the server sent him the information. If there was a crime committed, it would seem to have been commmitted by whomever had responsibility for setting up that server and protecting the information on it. </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Well do you want people poking around your accounts even if they are not giving information that will lead to identity thief.Whether I want it to happen or not and whether it amounts to a crime or not are two entirely different questions .
As also is , if a crime was committed , who specifically committed it ?
From what I can tell this guy just decremented and/or incremented URLs and the server sent him the information .
If there was a crime committed , it would seem to have been commmitted by whomever had responsibility for setting up that server and protecting the information on it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well do you want people poking around your accounts even if they are not giving information that will lead to identity thief.Whether I want it to happen or not and whether it amounts to a crime or not are two entirely different questions.
As also is, if a crime was committed, who specifically committed it?
From what I can tell this guy just decremented and/or incremented URLs and the server sent him the information.
If there was a crime committed, it would seem to have been commmitted by whomever had responsibility for setting up that server and protecting the information on it. 
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264062</id>
	<title>STOP THE PRESSES!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265103120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Latvia has banks?<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) sry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Latvia has banks ?
: ) sry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Latvia has banks?
:) sry.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264300</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>mandelbr0t</author>
	<datestamp>1265104260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Having a good reason to commit a crime doesn't make it not a crime. It might, in some circumstances, get you leniency in sentencing, but it's still a crime.</p></div><p>Not going to disagree with you there, but willingness to commit crime can sometimes be the moral action when the law protects the immoral. There are few people that are so brave, and their actions should be lauded regardless of their criminality. One man's villain is another man's hero. Of course, the only positive thing that can be said about moral, criminal acts is that you get to be self-righteous. If you get caught, you still go to jail. On the other hand, King Richard eventually pardoned Robin Hood. Good people are eventually vindicated.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Having a good reason to commit a crime does n't make it not a crime .
It might , in some circumstances , get you leniency in sentencing , but it 's still a crime.Not going to disagree with you there , but willingness to commit crime can sometimes be the moral action when the law protects the immoral .
There are few people that are so brave , and their actions should be lauded regardless of their criminality .
One man 's villain is another man 's hero .
Of course , the only positive thing that can be said about moral , criminal acts is that you get to be self-righteous .
If you get caught , you still go to jail .
On the other hand , King Richard eventually pardoned Robin Hood .
Good people are eventually vindicated .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Having a good reason to commit a crime doesn't make it not a crime.
It might, in some circumstances, get you leniency in sentencing, but it's still a crime.Not going to disagree with you there, but willingness to commit crime can sometimes be the moral action when the law protects the immoral.
There are few people that are so brave, and their actions should be lauded regardless of their criminality.
One man's villain is another man's hero.
Of course, the only positive thing that can be said about moral, criminal acts is that you get to be self-righteous.
If you get caught, you still go to jail.
On the other hand, King Richard eventually pardoned Robin Hood.
Good people are eventually vindicated.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266266</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>umghhh</author>
	<datestamp>1265112720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here in Germany stealing data from banks is ok.
<p>At least as long as banks in question are in Switzerland and stolen data can help in 'fixing'  the budget deficit or so their propaganda says.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Germany stealing data from banks is ok . At least as long as banks in question are in Switzerland and stolen data can help in 'fixing ' the budget deficit or so their propaganda says .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Germany stealing data from banks is ok.
At least as long as banks in question are in Switzerland and stolen data can help in 'fixing'  the budget deficit or so their propaganda says.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264248</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>JoshuaZ</author>
	<datestamp>1265104020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Committed a crime and did something bad are not the same thing always. Sometimes the moral or ethical act is against the law. It doesn't take much effort to give historic or current examples. Just a few people off the top of my head who've committed crimes that are morally either ok or the right thing to do: off the top of my head: abolitionists in the pre-Civil War US, protestors in Iran, and whoever gave Wikileaks their leaked documents about Guantanamo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Committed a crime and did something bad are not the same thing always .
Sometimes the moral or ethical act is against the law .
It does n't take much effort to give historic or current examples .
Just a few people off the top of my head who 've committed crimes that are morally either ok or the right thing to do : off the top of my head : abolitionists in the pre-Civil War US , protestors in Iran , and whoever gave Wikileaks their leaked documents about Guantanamo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Committed a crime and did something bad are not the same thing always.
Sometimes the moral or ethical act is against the law.
It doesn't take much effort to give historic or current examples.
Just a few people off the top of my head who've committed crimes that are morally either ok or the right thing to do: off the top of my head: abolitionists in the pre-Civil War US, protestors in Iran, and whoever gave Wikileaks their leaked documents about Guantanamo.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264066</id>
	<title>"Neo"</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265103180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>How original.</htmltext>
<tokenext>How original .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How original.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31263772</id>
	<title>Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265101860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://miljons.com/en/all/best/" title="miljons.com" rel="nofollow">Million Reasons Why Latvia Is The Best Country In The World</a> [miljons.com]</p><p>Be warned, you'll lose productivity for rest of the day.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Million Reasons Why Latvia Is The Best Country In The World [ miljons.com ] Be warned , you 'll lose productivity for rest of the day .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Million Reasons Why Latvia Is The Best Country In The World [miljons.com]Be warned, you'll lose productivity for rest of the day.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31267820</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>luder</author>
	<datestamp>1265124840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Be warned, you'll lose productivity for rest of the day.</p></div><p>That's nothing, compared to <a href="http://englishrussia.com/" title="englishrussia.com">English Russia</a> [englishrussia.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Be warned , you 'll lose productivity for rest of the day.That 's nothing , compared to English Russia [ englishrussia.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be warned, you'll lose productivity for rest of the day.That's nothing, compared to English Russia [englishrussia.com].
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264102</id>
	<title>Angle-grinder man being supplanted?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265103360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If he is from Britain, maybe it is angle-grinder man who has been reborn with new super-powers.

<a href="http://www.zimbio.com/10+Real+Life+Superheroes+Who+Have+Actually+Made+a+Difference/articles/KK4rSsSTgOq/2+Angle+Grinder+Man" title="zimbio.com">http://www.zimbio.com/10+Real+Life+Superheroes+Who+Have+Actually+Made+a+Difference/articles/KK4rSsSTgOq/2+Angle+Grinder+Man</a> [zimbio.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>If he is from Britain , maybe it is angle-grinder man who has been reborn with new super-powers .
http : //www.zimbio.com/10 + Real + Life + Superheroes + Who + Have + Actually + Made + a + Difference/articles/KK4rSsSTgOq/2 + Angle + Grinder + Man [ zimbio.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If he is from Britain, maybe it is angle-grinder man who has been reborn with new super-powers.
http://www.zimbio.com/10+Real+Life+Superheroes+Who+Have+Actually+Made+a+Difference/articles/KK4rSsSTgOq/2+Angle+Grinder+Man [zimbio.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31268884</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>ScruffyScrode</author>
	<datestamp>1265135940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is in response to your signature, so OT mod here I come.

The form of democracy that Chomsky agitates for is a thousand times more oppressive to an individual than any one Corporation has every been. You can always quit, you can always start your own corporation and run it differently, you can always purchase goods/services from another corporation, or even none at all. When you're sick of your democracy your only options are violence and moving to a foreign land.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is in response to your signature , so OT mod here I come .
The form of democracy that Chomsky agitates for is a thousand times more oppressive to an individual than any one Corporation has every been .
You can always quit , you can always start your own corporation and run it differently , you can always purchase goods/services from another corporation , or even none at all .
When you 're sick of your democracy your only options are violence and moving to a foreign land .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is in response to your signature, so OT mod here I come.
The form of democracy that Chomsky agitates for is a thousand times more oppressive to an individual than any one Corporation has every been.
You can always quit, you can always start your own corporation and run it differently, you can always purchase goods/services from another corporation, or even none at all.
When you're sick of your democracy your only options are violence and moving to a foreign land.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31268208</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>CharlyFoxtrot</author>
	<datestamp>1265128440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm afraid there's at least <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T41ZRw45obs" title="youtube.com">one reason</a> [youtube.com] neighbouring Estonia is better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm afraid there 's at least one reason [ youtube.com ] neighbouring Estonia is better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm afraid there's at least one reason [youtube.com] neighbouring Estonia is better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264032</id>
	<title>Robin the Hood...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265103060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>stole from the government and gave to the overtaxed. This guy is copying from the government and pasting to the people. He's more like a "Neo the Document Liberator?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>stole from the government and gave to the overtaxed .
This guy is copying from the government and pasting to the people .
He 's more like a " Neo the Document Liberator ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>stole from the government and gave to the overtaxed.
This guy is copying from the government and pasting to the people.
He's more like a "Neo the Document Liberator?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266546</id>
	<title>Post...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265114460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Posting to this hacker thread</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Posting to this hacker thread</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Posting to this hacker thread</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266752</id>
	<title>Re:I find it hard to take seriously a group called</title>
	<author>Ltap</author>
	<datestamp>1265115720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Which makes you wonder about what it would be like for people to cheer for them. "fap fap fap fap fap!"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Which makes you wonder about what it would be like for people to cheer for them .
" fap fap fap fap fap !
" ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Which makes you wonder about what it would be like for people to cheer for them.
"fap fap fap fap fap!
"?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264206</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264322</id>
	<title>Wait, didn't I see this in a Nintendo DS game...?</title>
	<author>MindlessAutomata</author>
	<datestamp>1265104380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>THE YATAGARASU STRIKES AGAIN!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>THE YATAGARASU STRIKES AGAIN !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>THE YATAGARASU STRIKES AGAIN!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265188</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>copponex</author>
	<datestamp>1265107920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Be warned, you'll lose productivity for rest of the day.</p></div><p>Sir, we are already reading slashdot.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Be warned , you 'll lose productivity for rest of the day.Sir , we are already reading slashdot .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be warned, you'll lose productivity for rest of the day.Sir, we are already reading slashdot.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31269040</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Arker</author>
	<datestamp>1265137560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is a bald assertion however. </p><p>Just because someone *wrote* that he committed a crime, and someone else repeated it, does not mean it is true. I would like to see it explained exactly what crime he committed here. It appears all he did was increment and decrement urls. A system that calls that a crime would be criminally insane. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is a bald assertion however .
Just because someone * wrote * that he committed a crime , and someone else repeated it , does not mean it is true .
I would like to see it explained exactly what crime he committed here .
It appears all he did was increment and decrement urls .
A system that calls that a crime would be criminally insane .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is a bald assertion however.
Just because someone *wrote* that he committed a crime, and someone else repeated it, does not mean it is true.
I would like to see it explained exactly what crime he committed here.
It appears all he did was increment and decrement urls.
A system that calls that a crime would be criminally insane. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265006</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia? Not USA?</title>
	<author>billybacs</author>
	<datestamp>1265107200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>IIRC, AIG paid bonuses to the peons of the company that performed adequately, rather than the executives themselves. But I could be mis-remembering the details. At a normal worker's level, the bonuses really do help morale extensively, especially if they weren't aware of what exactly they were doing. It's the execs' responsibility to lead the company effectively.

If they were actually giving themselves bonuses, then never mind anything I just said.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IIRC , AIG paid bonuses to the peons of the company that performed adequately , rather than the executives themselves .
But I could be mis-remembering the details .
At a normal worker 's level , the bonuses really do help morale extensively , especially if they were n't aware of what exactly they were doing .
It 's the execs ' responsibility to lead the company effectively .
If they were actually giving themselves bonuses , then never mind anything I just said .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IIRC, AIG paid bonuses to the peons of the company that performed adequately, rather than the executives themselves.
But I could be mis-remembering the details.
At a normal worker's level, the bonuses really do help morale extensively, especially if they weren't aware of what exactly they were doing.
It's the execs' responsibility to lead the company effectively.
If they were actually giving themselves bonuses, then never mind anything I just said.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31267138</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>Rufty</author>
	<datestamp>1265118540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thanks for that!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thanks for that !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thanks for that!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264064</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265103180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Bad and illegal are different things.  He has clearly violated laws by obtaining access to this information.</p><p>We may think that individual instances of criminal conduct are beneficial.  Under U.S. law those individuals may be able to claim the affirmative defense of "necessity," claiming that they violated the law because the benefit of the violation outweighed the harm done.  Here, it's unclear whether Neo knew, when he broke the law and accessed this information, that there would be a benefit to doing so.</p><p>Ultimately, this case illustrates the problems that arise when corruption puts law and morality at odds with one another.  That doesn't mean Latvians should welcome and encourage vigilantism; it only means they have a corruption problem that needs to be addressed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Bad and illegal are different things .
He has clearly violated laws by obtaining access to this information.We may think that individual instances of criminal conduct are beneficial .
Under U.S. law those individuals may be able to claim the affirmative defense of " necessity , " claiming that they violated the law because the benefit of the violation outweighed the harm done .
Here , it 's unclear whether Neo knew , when he broke the law and accessed this information , that there would be a benefit to doing so.Ultimately , this case illustrates the problems that arise when corruption puts law and morality at odds with one another .
That does n't mean Latvians should welcome and encourage vigilantism ; it only means they have a corruption problem that needs to be addressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bad and illegal are different things.
He has clearly violated laws by obtaining access to this information.We may think that individual instances of criminal conduct are beneficial.
Under U.S. law those individuals may be able to claim the affirmative defense of "necessity," claiming that they violated the law because the benefit of the violation outweighed the harm done.
Here, it's unclear whether Neo knew, when he broke the law and accessed this information, that there would be a benefit to doing so.Ultimately, this case illustrates the problems that arise when corruption puts law and morality at odds with one another.
That doesn't mean Latvians should welcome and encourage vigilantism; it only means they have a corruption problem that needs to be addressed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264222</id>
	<title>Danger</title>
	<author>Elektroschock</author>
	<datestamp>1265103900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, when you think of international conferences, most ^evil^ lobbyists use the wi-fi in the conference hotel. The presentation is boring, so 60\% of them read their mails during the conference. Of course a criminal could just monitor their traffic, read their mails and grab their access passwords, then sent their mails and stuff to wikileaks. It is a danger to our national security because it is technically feasible but no one does. So the protection against criminal action is actually ethics not technology. The real danger is that Robin Hack gets famous and popular, and these pratices get spread by kiddies who enjoy to "Hack the Banksters". Or maybe the Chinese do, no idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , when you think of international conferences , most ^ evil ^ lobbyists use the wi-fi in the conference hotel .
The presentation is boring , so 60 \ % of them read their mails during the conference .
Of course a criminal could just monitor their traffic , read their mails and grab their access passwords , then sent their mails and stuff to wikileaks .
It is a danger to our national security because it is technically feasible but no one does .
So the protection against criminal action is actually ethics not technology .
The real danger is that Robin Hack gets famous and popular , and these pratices get spread by kiddies who enjoy to " Hack the Banksters " .
Or maybe the Chinese do , no idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, when you think of international conferences, most ^evil^ lobbyists use the wi-fi in the conference hotel.
The presentation is boring, so 60\% of them read their mails during the conference.
Of course a criminal could just monitor their traffic, read their mails and grab their access passwords, then sent their mails and stuff to wikileaks.
It is a danger to our national security because it is technically feasible but no one does.
So the protection against criminal action is actually ethics not technology.
The real danger is that Robin Hack gets famous and popular, and these pratices get spread by kiddies who enjoy to "Hack the Banksters".
Or maybe the Chinese do, no idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264492</id>
	<title>Not a Hack</title>
	<author>MrTripps</author>
	<datestamp>1265105040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>"The nation's security council discussed the breach and expressed concern that only 50 percent of the country's 175 state-run data systems have security oversight. President Valdis Zatlers called for immediate action to install proper security on all systems.

Computer experts concluded that the breach did not constitute a cyber-attack and was the result of poorly developed software and systems management."
<a href="http://www.kansascity.com/2010/02/24/1770170/cyber-whistleblower-stuns-latvia.html" title="kansascity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kansascity.com/2010/02/24/1770170/cyber-whistleblower-stuns-latvia.html</a> [kansascity.com]

I'd hate to be that CIO.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" The nation 's security council discussed the breach and expressed concern that only 50 percent of the country 's 175 state-run data systems have security oversight .
President Valdis Zatlers called for immediate action to install proper security on all systems .
Computer experts concluded that the breach did not constitute a cyber-attack and was the result of poorly developed software and systems management .
" http : //www.kansascity.com/2010/02/24/1770170/cyber-whistleblower-stuns-latvia.html [ kansascity.com ] I 'd hate to be that CIO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"The nation's security council discussed the breach and expressed concern that only 50 percent of the country's 175 state-run data systems have security oversight.
President Valdis Zatlers called for immediate action to install proper security on all systems.
Computer experts concluded that the breach did not constitute a cyber-attack and was the result of poorly developed software and systems management.
"
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/02/24/1770170/cyber-whistleblower-stuns-latvia.html [kansascity.com]

I'd hate to be that CIO.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265526</id>
	<title>Its the Batman defense.</title>
	<author>WarlockD</author>
	<datestamp>1265109240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I can beat up anyone I want as long as I am doing it for the public good"</p><p>I am not saying Batman or this guy isn't doing good work, but he is steeping on allot of toes here.  The banks are going to want to throw the book at him and the politician are going to be mad that their corruption/indifference is shown.  Even if the "people" are on his side, its going to be hard to argue in a democracy he shouldn't be punished.</p><p>Also, he has to have some strong ethical guidelines here.  Joker gets away with murder because he knows Batman cannot kill him.  Batman goes to great lengths to make sure he doesn't kill anyone no matter what they have done.   What does this guy have?   Will he release these bankers home address?  How about personal information about them?  Lets say there IS outright bribery and he shows it by getting the bankers personal account number and information.  Will he do the due diligence and, at the very least, blank out the personal account numbers/SS# etc before he releases it to the public?</p><p>Its quite probably hypocritical of me to be rooting for this guy, but in the end its why Batman is my favorite comic hero. Its not his inelegance or physical strength, its that he never breaks his rules under any circumstances.  Hell, I want to say even stronger than Superman, as he has the power of a near god.  Superman can afford to be infallible.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I can beat up anyone I want as long as I am doing it for the public good " I am not saying Batman or this guy is n't doing good work , but he is steeping on allot of toes here .
The banks are going to want to throw the book at him and the politician are going to be mad that their corruption/indifference is shown .
Even if the " people " are on his side , its going to be hard to argue in a democracy he should n't be punished.Also , he has to have some strong ethical guidelines here .
Joker gets away with murder because he knows Batman can not kill him .
Batman goes to great lengths to make sure he does n't kill anyone no matter what they have done .
What does this guy have ?
Will he release these bankers home address ?
How about personal information about them ?
Lets say there IS outright bribery and he shows it by getting the bankers personal account number and information .
Will he do the due diligence and , at the very least , blank out the personal account numbers/SS # etc before he releases it to the public ? Its quite probably hypocritical of me to be rooting for this guy , but in the end its why Batman is my favorite comic hero .
Its not his inelegance or physical strength , its that he never breaks his rules under any circumstances .
Hell , I want to say even stronger than Superman , as he has the power of a near god .
Superman can afford to be infallible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I can beat up anyone I want as long as I am doing it for the public good"I am not saying Batman or this guy isn't doing good work, but he is steeping on allot of toes here.
The banks are going to want to throw the book at him and the politician are going to be mad that their corruption/indifference is shown.
Even if the "people" are on his side, its going to be hard to argue in a democracy he shouldn't be punished.Also, he has to have some strong ethical guidelines here.
Joker gets away with murder because he knows Batman cannot kill him.
Batman goes to great lengths to make sure he doesn't kill anyone no matter what they have done.
What does this guy have?
Will he release these bankers home address?
How about personal information about them?
Lets say there IS outright bribery and he shows it by getting the bankers personal account number and information.
Will he do the due diligence and, at the very least, blank out the personal account numbers/SS# etc before he releases it to the public?Its quite probably hypocritical of me to be rooting for this guy, but in the end its why Batman is my favorite comic hero.
Its not his inelegance or physical strength, its that he never breaks his rules under any circumstances.
Hell, I want to say even stronger than Superman, as he has the power of a near god.
Superman can afford to be infallible.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31267754</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265124300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How about the the kid blowing up the condom like a balloon? Too obscure?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How about the the kid blowing up the condom like a balloon ?
Too obscure ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How about the the kid blowing up the condom like a balloon?
Too obscure?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264080</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265103300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If there's any indication that Neo has done anything bad (other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias) I don't see it in TFA.</p></div><p>Then you must not have read this sentence, found in both TFA and TFS: "On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data... and he actually has committed a crime."</p><p>Just because <i>some</i> of the information in <i>some</i> of the stolen documents <i>should</i> be made public doesn't change the fact that he stole the documents. Having a good reason to commit a crime doesn't make it not a crime. It <i>might</i>, in some circumstances, get you leniency in sentencing, but it's still a crime.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there 's any indication that Neo has done anything bad ( other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias ) I do n't see it in TFA.Then you must not have read this sentence , found in both TFA and TFS : " On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data... and he actually has committed a crime .
" Just because some of the information in some of the stolen documents should be made public does n't change the fact that he stole the documents .
Having a good reason to commit a crime does n't make it not a crime .
It might , in some circumstances , get you leniency in sentencing , but it 's still a crime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there's any indication that Neo has done anything bad (other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias) I don't see it in TFA.Then you must not have read this sentence, found in both TFA and TFS: "On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data... and he actually has committed a crime.
"Just because some of the information in some of the stolen documents should be made public doesn't change the fact that he stole the documents.
Having a good reason to commit a crime doesn't make it not a crime.
It might, in some circumstances, get you leniency in sentencing, but it's still a crime.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266788</id>
	<title>Von Doom</title>
	<author>Rathum</author>
	<datestamp>1265116080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I thought this was awesome until I realized it wasn't <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latveria" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Latveria</a> [wikipedia.org].

I need a therapist...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I thought this was awesome until I realized it was n't Latveria [ wikipedia.org ] .
I need a therapist.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I thought this was awesome until I realized it wasn't Latveria [wikipedia.org].
I need a therapist...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31269366</id>
	<title>Re:Not a Hack</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267128720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'd hate to be that CIO.</p></div><p>Totally incompetent? Yeah that would really suck...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd hate to be that CIO.Totally incompetent ?
Yeah that would really suck.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd hate to be that CIO.Totally incompetent?
Yeah that would really suck...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264492</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266172</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Derosian</author>
	<datestamp>1265112300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Don't forget about the whole bunch of founding father's of the USA, being traitors and committing great crimes, ect, ect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do n't forget about the whole bunch of founding father 's of the USA , being traitors and committing great crimes , ect , ect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Don't forget about the whole bunch of founding father's of the USA, being traitors and committing great crimes, ect, ect.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264390</id>
	<title>If at first you don't succeed..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265104740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the First, Second and Third Awakening People's Army didn't rattle enough cages effectively, what makes them think the Fourth will prevail?</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the First , Second and Third Awakening People 's Army did n't rattle enough cages effectively , what makes them think the Fourth will prevail ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the First, Second and Third Awakening People's Army didn't rattle enough cages effectively, what makes them think the Fourth will prevail?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264210</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Danse</author>
	<datestamp>1265103840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>If there's any indication that Neo has done anything bad (other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias) I don't see it in TFA.</p></div><p>Then you must not have read this sentence, found in both TFA and TFS: "On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data... and he actually has committed a crime."</p><p>Just because <i>some</i> of the information in <i>some</i> of the stolen documents <i>should</i> be made public doesn't change the fact that he stole the documents. Having a good reason to commit a crime doesn't make it not a crime. It <i>might</i>, in some circumstances, get you leniency in sentencing, but it's still a crime.</p></div><p>The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime (i.e. the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If there 's any indication that Neo has done anything bad ( other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias ) I do n't see it in TFA.Then you must not have read this sentence , found in both TFA and TFS : " On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data... and he actually has committed a crime .
" Just because some of the information in some of the stolen documents should be made public does n't change the fact that he stole the documents .
Having a good reason to commit a crime does n't make it not a crime .
It might , in some circumstances , get you leniency in sentencing , but it 's still a crime.The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime ( i.e .
the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there's any indication that Neo has done anything bad (other than choosing a really pretentious and unoriginal alias) I don't see it in TFA.Then you must not have read this sentence, found in both TFA and TFS: "On the one hand of course he has stolen confidential data... and he actually has committed a crime.
"Just because some of the information in some of the stolen documents should be made public doesn't change the fact that he stole the documents.
Having a good reason to commit a crime doesn't make it not a crime.
It might, in some circumstances, get you leniency in sentencing, but it's still a crime.The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime (i.e.
the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264080</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264660</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265105760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime (i.e. the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money).</p></div><p>I really hope so, but I don't have much faith in the court system anywhere after reading about what happened to the Google Executives in Italy.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime ( i.e .
the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money ) .I really hope so , but I do n't have much faith in the court system anywhere after reading about what happened to the Google Executives in Italy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime (i.e.
the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money).I really hope so, but I don't have much faith in the court system anywhere after reading about what happened to the Google Executives in Italy.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264650</id>
	<title>Correction to the story</title>
	<author>karuna</author>
	<datestamp>1265105700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The summary is completely wrong. The actual history in short is as follows: Latvian Neo claims that the anonymous group 4ATA has downloaded about 7.4 million tax statements from the Latvian tax authority website that is used by businesses to submit their tax declarations electronically. It was done over 3 months period before the IT department realized that something is wrong. The stolen data includes practically full information about salaries and payments received by employees of all Latvian public and private enterprises.
<br>
<br>4ATA is now periodically releasing the detailed pay information of certain public companies one at a time. He is careful to remove actual names of employees and for many this data seems trivial. But with this he is trying to prove that the claimed austerity measures undertaken by the government to fight the economic crisis is a big lie. However, the periodic release is annoying politicians who can't find a way to stop this leak.
<br>
<br>
As for Neo walking the fine line, he downloaded the data without circumventing any security measures as he claims that the website was open to everyone. The hole was one specific URL normally used by an authorized user to review his own statements. Each document in the total database is assigned an ID number and by sequentially changing the ID number in the said URL, everyone could download the whole database as no authorization was checked by the script on the server. After some time the tax department notice irregularities and noticed the developer of the system but they were rather slow to fix the breach. When they finally managed to get the act together, Neo had already downloaded about 98\% of the database.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The summary is completely wrong .
The actual history in short is as follows : Latvian Neo claims that the anonymous group 4ATA has downloaded about 7.4 million tax statements from the Latvian tax authority website that is used by businesses to submit their tax declarations electronically .
It was done over 3 months period before the IT department realized that something is wrong .
The stolen data includes practically full information about salaries and payments received by employees of all Latvian public and private enterprises .
4ATA is now periodically releasing the detailed pay information of certain public companies one at a time .
He is careful to remove actual names of employees and for many this data seems trivial .
But with this he is trying to prove that the claimed austerity measures undertaken by the government to fight the economic crisis is a big lie .
However , the periodic release is annoying politicians who ca n't find a way to stop this leak .
As for Neo walking the fine line , he downloaded the data without circumventing any security measures as he claims that the website was open to everyone .
The hole was one specific URL normally used by an authorized user to review his own statements .
Each document in the total database is assigned an ID number and by sequentially changing the ID number in the said URL , everyone could download the whole database as no authorization was checked by the script on the server .
After some time the tax department notice irregularities and noticed the developer of the system but they were rather slow to fix the breach .
When they finally managed to get the act together , Neo had already downloaded about 98 \ % of the database .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The summary is completely wrong.
The actual history in short is as follows: Latvian Neo claims that the anonymous group 4ATA has downloaded about 7.4 million tax statements from the Latvian tax authority website that is used by businesses to submit their tax declarations electronically.
It was done over 3 months period before the IT department realized that something is wrong.
The stolen data includes practically full information about salaries and payments received by employees of all Latvian public and private enterprises.
4ATA is now periodically releasing the detailed pay information of certain public companies one at a time.
He is careful to remove actual names of employees and for many this data seems trivial.
But with this he is trying to prove that the claimed austerity measures undertaken by the government to fight the economic crisis is a big lie.
However, the periodic release is annoying politicians who can't find a way to stop this leak.
As for Neo walking the fine line, he downloaded the data without circumventing any security measures as he claims that the website was open to everyone.
The hole was one specific URL normally used by an authorized user to review his own statements.
Each document in the total database is assigned an ID number and by sequentially changing the ID number in the said URL, everyone could download the whole database as no authorization was checked by the script on the server.
After some time the tax department notice irregularities and noticed the developer of the system but they were rather slow to fix the breach.
When they finally managed to get the act together, Neo had already downloaded about 98\% of the database.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264454</id>
	<title>Go Braliukas Go!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265104920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Go Braliukas Go!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Go Braliukas Go !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go Braliukas Go!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31266860</id>
	<title>Re:I find it hard to take seriously a group called</title>
	<author>hammeraxe</author>
	<datestamp>1265116560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To be fair they probably did not think of the organizations English name, they're Latvian after all. The name 4ATA though has some resemblance to the word "chat" in Latvian. Not sure how that's supposed to work though: "chat army"?</htmltext>
<tokenext>To be fair they probably did not think of the organizations English name , they 're Latvian after all .
The name 4ATA though has some resemblance to the word " chat " in Latvian .
Not sure how that 's supposed to work though : " chat army " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To be fair they probably did not think of the organizations English name, they're Latvian after all.
The name 4ATA though has some resemblance to the word "chat" in Latvian.
Not sure how that's supposed to work though: "chat army"?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264206</id>
	<title>I find it hard to take seriously a group called...</title>
	<author>DigitalReverend</author>
	<datestamp>1265103840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>FAP Army.</htmltext>
<tokenext>FAP Army .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FAP Army.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31275366</id>
	<title>Re:"Neo"</title>
	<author>Jade\_Wayfarer</author>
	<datestamp>1267126500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>And pretty creative at the same time - I think there are much more "Neos" in the Internet then even the "Anonymous", so being "Neo" is more anonymous than even "Anonymous" themselves. If not practical, it is still stylish in some way )</htmltext>
<tokenext>And pretty creative at the same time - I think there are much more " Neos " in the Internet then even the " Anonymous " , so being " Neo " is more anonymous than even " Anonymous " themselves .
If not practical , it is still stylish in some way )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And pretty creative at the same time - I think there are much more "Neos" in the Internet then even the "Anonymous", so being "Neo" is more anonymous than even "Anonymous" themselves.
If not practical, it is still stylish in some way )</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31263830</id>
	<title>ahh</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265102100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>i saw a guy walking down the street just today - in a long black coat wearing sunglasses talking on his nokia. i thought "i bet that guys a leet hacker" probably him. he was scowling.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i saw a guy walking down the street just today - in a long black coat wearing sunglasses talking on his nokia .
i thought " i bet that guys a leet hacker " probably him .
he was scowling .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i saw a guy walking down the street just today - in a long black coat wearing sunglasses talking on his nokia.
i thought "i bet that guys a leet hacker" probably him.
he was scowling.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264534</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Rary</author>
	<datestamp>1265105220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime (i.e. the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money).</p></div><p>I don't know about Latvia, but around here vigilantism isn't looked on too kindly by most courts.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime ( i.e .
the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money ) .I do n't know about Latvia , but around here vigilantism is n't looked on too kindly by most courts .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that the crime was committed against those who were themselves engaged in criminal acts may cause the courts to consider it a justified act committed to prevent a much greater crime (i.e.
the theft of large amounts of taxpayer money).I don't know about Latvia, but around here vigilantism isn't looked on too kindly by most courts.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31265522</id>
	<title>Re:Angle-grinder man being supplanted?</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1265109240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>#5 succcks, she basically stops stupid people that put themselves in bad situations from learning any lessons. Stopping drunk chicks from leaving with guys is stupid. To top it off she's sexist:<br> "I protect the single girl living in the big city," Terrifica told ABC in 2002. "I do this because women are weak. They are easily manipulated, and they need to be protected from themselves and most certainly from men and their ill intentions toward them."</htmltext>
<tokenext># 5 succcks , she basically stops stupid people that put themselves in bad situations from learning any lessons .
Stopping drunk chicks from leaving with guys is stupid .
To top it off she 's sexist : " I protect the single girl living in the big city , " Terrifica told ABC in 2002 .
" I do this because women are weak .
They are easily manipulated , and they need to be protected from themselves and most certainly from men and their ill intentions toward them .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>#5 succcks, she basically stops stupid people that put themselves in bad situations from learning any lessons.
Stopping drunk chicks from leaving with guys is stupid.
To top it off she's sexist: "I protect the single girl living in the big city," Terrifica told ABC in 2002.
"I do this because women are weak.
They are easily manipulated, and they need to be protected from themselves and most certainly from men and their ill intentions toward them.
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31269670</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>richlv</author>
	<datestamp>1267089720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for the record, from the currently publicly available information.</p><p>1. information was obtained from a very simple and (supposedly) obvious software vulnerability;</p><p>2. software in question was developed by exigen services latvia (<a href="http://www.exigenservices.lv/" title="exigenservices.lv">http://www.exigenservices.lv/</a> [exigenservices.lv]);</p><p>3. an audit was conducted on the local irs (vid) it systems by kmpg and ernst &amp; young, totalling at 1 million lats (~ 2 million usd);</p><p>4. data leaked includes full wage information on majority of companies in latvia.</p><p>a lot of factors are being disputed (like auditors disclaiming any liability). as for (potential) damage to honest businesses :</p><p>1. full information on wages makes businesses more vulnerable to talent stealing, finding targets for bribes etc;</p><p>2. biggest message to take home is "you can't trust state organisations even a bit". the same organisation (local irs, vid) few years ago was illegally wiretapping calls of a local journalist (they have a branch with enforcing/investigating capabilities). now, of course, most people and businesses do not have much choice but to deal with oversized, ineffective and massively corrupted instances.</p><p>and recently they have started taking fingerprints from \_everybody\_ ("new order" to get a passport). we probably should have no illusions about who will get the fingerprint db first - random hackers or organised crime.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for the record , from the currently publicly available information.1 .
information was obtained from a very simple and ( supposedly ) obvious software vulnerability ; 2. software in question was developed by exigen services latvia ( http : //www.exigenservices.lv/ [ exigenservices.lv ] ) ; 3. an audit was conducted on the local irs ( vid ) it systems by kmpg and ernst &amp; young , totalling at 1 million lats ( ~ 2 million usd ) ; 4. data leaked includes full wage information on majority of companies in latvia.a lot of factors are being disputed ( like auditors disclaiming any liability ) .
as for ( potential ) damage to honest businesses : 1. full information on wages makes businesses more vulnerable to talent stealing , finding targets for bribes etc ; 2. biggest message to take home is " you ca n't trust state organisations even a bit " .
the same organisation ( local irs , vid ) few years ago was illegally wiretapping calls of a local journalist ( they have a branch with enforcing/investigating capabilities ) .
now , of course , most people and businesses do not have much choice but to deal with oversized , ineffective and massively corrupted instances.and recently they have started taking fingerprints from \ _everybody \ _ ( " new order " to get a passport ) .
we probably should have no illusions about who will get the fingerprint db first - random hackers or organised crime .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for the record, from the currently publicly available information.1.
information was obtained from a very simple and (supposedly) obvious software vulnerability;2. software in question was developed by exigen services latvia (http://www.exigenservices.lv/ [exigenservices.lv]);3. an audit was conducted on the local irs (vid) it systems by kmpg and ernst &amp; young, totalling at 1 million lats (~ 2 million usd);4. data leaked includes full wage information on majority of companies in latvia.a lot of factors are being disputed (like auditors disclaiming any liability).
as for (potential) damage to honest businesses :1. full information on wages makes businesses more vulnerable to talent stealing, finding targets for bribes etc;2. biggest message to take home is "you can't trust state organisations even a bit".
the same organisation (local irs, vid) few years ago was illegally wiretapping calls of a local journalist (they have a branch with enforcing/investigating capabilities).
now, of course, most people and businesses do not have much choice but to deal with oversized, ineffective and massively corrupted instances.and recently they have started taking fingerprints from \_everybody\_ ("new order" to get a passport).
we probably should have no illusions about who will get the fingerprint db first - random hackers or organised crime.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264336</id>
	<title>Re:Some sympathy some not so</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265104380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Of course, "stealing confidential data" (from a non-government source), where the confidentiality is self-defined by the owner, is exactly the kind of DMCA type violation we regularly decry here.  What you (and TFA) are suggesting is that the act of <i>acquiring</i> the data is a crime in and of itself, rather than the <i>criminal use</i> of the data.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Of course , " stealing confidential data " ( from a non-government source ) , where the confidentiality is self-defined by the owner , is exactly the kind of DMCA type violation we regularly decry here .
What you ( and TFA ) are suggesting is that the act of acquiring the data is a crime in and of itself , rather than the criminal use of the data .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Of course, "stealing confidential data" (from a non-government source), where the confidentiality is self-defined by the owner, is exactly the kind of DMCA type violation we regularly decry here.
What you (and TFA) are suggesting is that the act of acquiring the data is a crime in and of itself, rather than the criminal use of the data.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_185235.31264426</id>
	<title>Re:Latvia explained in pictures and comments</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265104860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p>Reminds me of http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Reminds me of http : //www.peopleofwalmart.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Reminds me of http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/</sentencetext>
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	<title>Latvia?  Not USA?</title>
	<author>Andy Dodd</author>
	<datestamp>1265102520000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>" An example of a juicy tidbit he revealed is that managers of a Latvian bank did not take the salary cuts they promised they would after the government bailed them out of economic trouble."</p><p>Are you sure he's actually talking about Latvia and not the US?</p><p>Oh wait, AIG's execs had the balls to promise nothing and actually give themselves *bonuses* for running their company so far into the ground that it needed a bailout.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" An example of a juicy tidbit he revealed is that managers of a Latvian bank did not take the salary cuts they promised they would after the government bailed them out of economic trouble .
" Are you sure he 's actually talking about Latvia and not the US ? Oh wait , AIG 's execs had the balls to promise nothing and actually give themselves * bonuses * for running their company so far into the ground that it needed a bailout .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>" An example of a juicy tidbit he revealed is that managers of a Latvian bank did not take the salary cuts they promised they would after the government bailed them out of economic trouble.
"Are you sure he's actually talking about Latvia and not the US?Oh wait, AIG's execs had the balls to promise nothing and actually give themselves *bonuses* for running their company so far into the ground that it needed a bailout.</sentencetext>
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	<title>It wasn't me.</title>
	<author>neo</author>
	<datestamp>1267177500000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>I didn't do it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I did n't do it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I didn't do it.</sentencetext>
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