<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_24_1624223</id>
	<title>Hollywood Stock Exchange Set To Launch In April</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1267038480000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>You can buy and sell actor or movie "stock" for virtual cash on the website <a href="http://www.hsx.com/">Hollywood Stock Exchange</a> (HSX). Starting in April the company plans on letting you turn those <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content\_display/news/e3icac65f467d72bd94d842d00b245ebd29">movie performance predictions into real dollars</a>.  HSX filed with the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission for approval as an active trading site in November 2008 and has just entered the final phase of regulatory review. Richard Jaycobs, president of HSX's parent company, said, "The number of people who visit movie theaters each year and form opinions about a film's success is in the tens of millions. We believe that's the reason the public response to this product has been very positive."</htmltext>
<tokenext>You can buy and sell actor or movie " stock " for virtual cash on the website Hollywood Stock Exchange ( HSX ) .
Starting in April the company plans on letting you turn those movie performance predictions into real dollars .
HSX filed with the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission for approval as an active trading site in November 2008 and has just entered the final phase of regulatory review .
Richard Jaycobs , president of HSX 's parent company , said , " The number of people who visit movie theaters each year and form opinions about a film 's success is in the tens of millions .
We believe that 's the reason the public response to this product has been very positive .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can buy and sell actor or movie "stock" for virtual cash on the website Hollywood Stock Exchange (HSX).
Starting in April the company plans on letting you turn those movie performance predictions into real dollars.
HSX filed with the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission for approval as an active trading site in November 2008 and has just entered the final phase of regulatory review.
Richard Jaycobs, president of HSX's parent company, said, "The number of people who visit movie theaters each year and form opinions about a film's success is in the tens of millions.
We believe that's the reason the public response to this product has been very positive.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263918</id>
	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>ThePlague</author>
	<datestamp>1265102460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>HSX has been around for a long time, at least since the late 90's.  I've had an account there since that time, and it certainly wasn't new then.  It was a great way to find out about upcoming movies, and some of the behind-the-scenes politicking involved in their transition through the various stages.  I don't follow it much anymore, maybe log in once or twice a year, and I certainly wouldn't pay money for it, but it was fun.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>HSX has been around for a long time , at least since the late 90 's .
I 've had an account there since that time , and it certainly was n't new then .
It was a great way to find out about upcoming movies , and some of the behind-the-scenes politicking involved in their transition through the various stages .
I do n't follow it much anymore , maybe log in once or twice a year , and I certainly would n't pay money for it , but it was fun .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HSX has been around for a long time, at least since the late 90's.
I've had an account there since that time, and it certainly wasn't new then.
It was a great way to find out about upcoming movies, and some of the behind-the-scenes politicking involved in their transition through the various stages.
I don't follow it much anymore, maybe log in once or twice a year, and I certainly wouldn't pay money for it, but it was fun.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31266900</id>
	<title>Damn</title>
	<author>macemoneta</author>
	<datestamp>1265116800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I couldn't buy Alyson Hannigan, so there was no point in playing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I could n't buy Alyson Hannigan , so there was no point in playing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I couldn't buy Alyson Hannigan, so there was no point in playing.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263056</id>
	<title>Idle</title>
	<author>oldhack</author>
	<datestamp>1265142000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rename "idle" with "samzenpus" and keep him off the main page.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rename " idle " with " samzenpus " and keep him off the main page .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rename "idle" with "samzenpus" and keep him off the main page.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262982</id>
	<title>Oh, goody</title>
	<author>Hawthorne01</author>
	<datestamp>1265141700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now instead of getting spam about how selected penny stocks on the Vancouver and Hong Kong exchanges are set to explode and make me hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'll get spam about how "TEH A-TEAM MOVIE IS THE BOMB!!!1!! BUY NOW!!!!1".</p><p>FWIW, I've been playing the old, free version of HSX for over ten years, and HSX has utterly botched not one, but two beta releases (ask anyone who was on their forums about the V2 rollout and how that went). No way, no how am I letting them anywhere near my real money.</p><p>Oh, and "BUY PINK2!".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now instead of getting spam about how selected penny stocks on the Vancouver and Hong Kong exchanges are set to explode and make me hundreds of thousands of dollars , I 'll get spam about how " TEH A-TEAM MOVIE IS THE BOMB ! ! ! 1 ! !
BUY NOW ! ! !
! 1 " .FWIW , I 've been playing the old , free version of HSX for over ten years , and HSX has utterly botched not one , but two beta releases ( ask anyone who was on their forums about the V2 rollout and how that went ) .
No way , no how am I letting them anywhere near my real money.Oh , and " BUY PINK2 !
" .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now instead of getting spam about how selected penny stocks on the Vancouver and Hong Kong exchanges are set to explode and make me hundreds of thousands of dollars, I'll get spam about how "TEH A-TEAM MOVIE IS THE BOMB!!!1!!
BUY NOW!!!
!1".FWIW, I've been playing the old, free version of HSX for over ten years, and HSX has utterly botched not one, but two beta releases (ask anyone who was on their forums about the V2 rollout and how that went).
No way, no how am I letting them anywhere near my real money.Oh, and "BUY PINK2!
".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263454</id>
	<title>Hollywood Accounting?</title>
	<author>CthulhuDreamer</author>
	<datestamp>1265143560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since most (all?) Hollywood movies lose money, can I just short them all and retire?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since most ( all ?
) Hollywood movies lose money , can I just short them all and retire ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since most (all?
) Hollywood movies lose money, can I just short them all and retire?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31276648</id>
	<title>Actually</title>
	<author>Bloom Berg</author>
	<datestamp>1267131300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Serious real markets also trade on abstract intangible stuff. Here are some examples</p><p> <a href="http://www.cboe.com/Products/IndexOptions.aspx" title="cboe.com" rel="nofollow">Indexes</a> [cboe.com] <br>
<a href="http://www.cboe.com/micro/vix/introduction.aspx" title="cboe.com" rel="nofollow">Volatility</a> [cboe.com] <br>
<a href="http://www.cboe.com/Products/InterestRateOptionsSpecs.aspx" title="cboe.com" rel="nofollow">Interest rates</a> [cboe.com] <br>
<a href="http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/weather/" title="cmegroup.com" rel="nofollow">Weather</a> [cmegroup.com] <br>
<a href="http://nymex.greenfutures.com/markets/" title="greenfutures.com" rel="nofollow">Pollution</a> [greenfutures.com] <br>
<a href="http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/economic-events/economic-events/nonfarm-payroll.html" title="cmegroup.com" rel="nofollow">Payroll</a> [cmegroup.com] </p><p>I always thought of a market to invest in film production, where your money went to actually finance a movie and entitle you to a share in revenue (if any). However, film making is a high profit low risk business and as such is reserved to a select number of people, and I'm not sure they need the mass investors for financing, they have enough money.</p><p>However I'm not sure where this "movie stocks" and "celebrity bonds" would fit. Technically speaking they are not stocks nor bonds.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Serious real markets also trade on abstract intangible stuff .
Here are some examples Indexes [ cboe.com ] Volatility [ cboe.com ] Interest rates [ cboe.com ] Weather [ cmegroup.com ] Pollution [ greenfutures.com ] Payroll [ cmegroup.com ] I always thought of a market to invest in film production , where your money went to actually finance a movie and entitle you to a share in revenue ( if any ) .
However , film making is a high profit low risk business and as such is reserved to a select number of people , and I 'm not sure they need the mass investors for financing , they have enough money.However I 'm not sure where this " movie stocks " and " celebrity bonds " would fit .
Technically speaking they are not stocks nor bonds .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Serious real markets also trade on abstract intangible stuff.
Here are some examples Indexes [cboe.com] 
Volatility [cboe.com] 
Interest rates [cboe.com] 
Weather [cmegroup.com] 
Pollution [greenfutures.com] 
Payroll [cmegroup.com] I always thought of a market to invest in film production, where your money went to actually finance a movie and entitle you to a share in revenue (if any).
However, film making is a high profit low risk business and as such is reserved to a select number of people, and I'm not sure they need the mass investors for financing, they have enough money.However I'm not sure where this "movie stocks" and "celebrity bonds" would fit.
Technically speaking they are not stocks nor bonds.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263200</id>
	<title>Sports Stock Exchange</title>
	<author>marquinhocb</author>
	<datestamp>1265142540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So when is the sports stock exchange opening?  I sure would love to bet... eh ehm I mean, "exchange and buy stock", for my favorite team.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So when is the sports stock exchange opening ?
I sure would love to bet... eh ehm I mean , " exchange and buy stock " , for my favorite team .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So when is the sports stock exchange opening?
I sure would love to bet... eh ehm I mean, "exchange and buy stock", for my favorite team.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31268282</id>
	<title>Re:Heckuva Job, Government</title>
	<author>sjames</author>
	<datestamp>1265129160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's perfectly legal in the U.S. as long as it's called day trading and is run by a brokerage. The rest are kept out because our financial sector doesn't want competition.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's perfectly legal in the U.S. as long as it 's called day trading and is run by a brokerage .
The rest are kept out because our financial sector does n't want competition .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's perfectly legal in the U.S. as long as it's called day trading and is run by a brokerage.
The rest are kept out because our financial sector doesn't want competition.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264070</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264084</id>
	<title>Um, hello people</title>
	<author>northernfrights</author>
	<datestamp>1265103300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><b>This service uses fake money, and its free. </b>

I can't believe how much people will bitch about a subject when they are completely uninformed.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This service uses fake money , and its free .
I ca n't believe how much people will bitch about a subject when they are completely uninformed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This service uses fake money, and its free.
I can't believe how much people will bitch about a subject when they are completely uninformed.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263884</id>
	<title>Re:American Dad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265102340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I put all of our money in the stock SJP. It's a sure thing.</p><p>As soon as that bell rings, we'll be in the money.</p><p>Here we go. Watch SJP take off!</p><p>What the hell was that? You said SJP was a sure thing.</p><p>I don't understand. SJP is in the new Spielberg movie. It's going to be huge.</p><p>What are you talking about? SJP is a Canadian chiropractic supplies company!</p><p>- You mean it's not Sarah Jessica Parker? - What?! No!</p><p>Isn't this the Hollywood Stock Exchange?</p><p>You know, the Web site where you buy and sell celebrity stocks</p><p>based on the ups and downs of their careers?</p><p>No!</p><p>- Then what is all this? - This is the New York Stock Exchange!</p><p>Like in the movie Wall Street?</p><p>I thought that was Hollywood make-believe,</p><p>like children of every color being at the same McDonald's.</p><p>But, back home, you said you were about to make a fortune in silver.</p><p>Ron Silver!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I put all of our money in the stock SJP .
It 's a sure thing.As soon as that bell rings , we 'll be in the money.Here we go .
Watch SJP take off ! What the hell was that ?
You said SJP was a sure thing.I do n't understand .
SJP is in the new Spielberg movie .
It 's going to be huge.What are you talking about ?
SJP is a Canadian chiropractic supplies company ! - You mean it 's not Sarah Jessica Parker ?
- What ? !
No ! Is n't this the Hollywood Stock Exchange ? You know , the Web site where you buy and sell celebrity stocksbased on the ups and downs of their careers ? No ! - Then what is all this ?
- This is the New York Stock Exchange ! Like in the movie Wall Street ? I thought that was Hollywood make-believe,like children of every color being at the same McDonald 's.But , back home , you said you were about to make a fortune in silver.Ron Silver !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I put all of our money in the stock SJP.
It's a sure thing.As soon as that bell rings, we'll be in the money.Here we go.
Watch SJP take off!What the hell was that?
You said SJP was a sure thing.I don't understand.
SJP is in the new Spielberg movie.
It's going to be huge.What are you talking about?
SJP is a Canadian chiropractic supplies company!- You mean it's not Sarah Jessica Parker?
- What?!
No!Isn't this the Hollywood Stock Exchange?You know, the Web site where you buy and sell celebrity stocksbased on the ups and downs of their careers?No!- Then what is all this?
- This is the New York Stock Exchange!Like in the movie Wall Street?I thought that was Hollywood make-believe,like children of every color being at the same McDonald's.But, back home, you said you were about to make a fortune in silver.Ron Silver!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262942</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264600</id>
	<title>Re:How many more ways can they think of</title>
	<author>knghtrider</author>
	<datestamp>1265105400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>More like..

'To part Fools and their Money.'

In the words of Gordon Geckko....'Greed is Good'..

yeah...right, until the economy nosedives into the crapper, you and your spouse are on Unemployment, maxed out on credit cards, paying 4 car payments (yours, your spouse, and your two kids), College Expenses, a boat payment and you're upside down by over 20\% in your house. (not me, thankfully just a generalization what may be out there)..

The point is..live well within your means, save money (6 months complete living expenses at least; though I'd say closer to 12 now)..greed is NOT good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>More like. . 'To part Fools and their Money .
' In the words of Gordon Geckko....'Greed is Good'. . yeah...right , until the economy nosedives into the crapper , you and your spouse are on Unemployment , maxed out on credit cards , paying 4 car payments ( yours , your spouse , and your two kids ) , College Expenses , a boat payment and you 're upside down by over 20 \ % in your house .
( not me , thankfully just a generalization what may be out there ) . . The point is..live well within your means , save money ( 6 months complete living expenses at least ; though I 'd say closer to 12 now ) ..greed is NOT good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>More like..

'To part Fools and their Money.
'

In the words of Gordon Geckko....'Greed is Good'..

yeah...right, until the economy nosedives into the crapper, you and your spouse are on Unemployment, maxed out on credit cards, paying 4 car payments (yours, your spouse, and your two kids), College Expenses, a boat payment and you're upside down by over 20\% in your house.
(not me, thankfully just a generalization what may be out there)..

The point is..live well within your means, save money (6 months complete living expenses at least; though I'd say closer to 12 now)..greed is NOT good.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262922</id>
	<title>too late!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265141460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I could have made a fortune betting against tucker max's ego-fest, I hope they serve beer in hell.  You didn't need to be kreskin to predict it.  What kind of retard gives a douchebag $6 million to make a movie about how awesome he is?  And then wastes another $6 million when every distributor passes on it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I could have made a fortune betting against tucker max 's ego-fest , I hope they serve beer in hell .
You did n't need to be kreskin to predict it .
What kind of retard gives a douchebag $ 6 million to make a movie about how awesome he is ?
And then wastes another $ 6 million when every distributor passes on it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I could have made a fortune betting against tucker max's ego-fest, I hope they serve beer in hell.
You didn't need to be kreskin to predict it.
What kind of retard gives a douchebag $6 million to make a movie about how awesome he is?
And then wastes another $6 million when every distributor passes on it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264414</id>
	<title>Re:Heckuva Job, Government</title>
	<author>Little\_Professor</author>
	<datestamp>1265104800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Only in the "Land of the Free" USA</htmltext>
<tokenext>Only in the " Land of the Free " USA</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Only in the "Land of the Free" USA</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31267116</id>
	<title>I wondered how long it would take.</title>
	<author>DerekLyons</author>
	<datestamp>1265118360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been playing HSX for over a decade, I've been wondering when they'd find a way to make money off of it.<br>
&nbsp; <br>Which also means the fun of playing will soon depart as the gamblers, riggers, farmers, and spammers move in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been playing HSX for over a decade , I 've been wondering when they 'd find a way to make money off of it .
  Which also means the fun of playing will soon depart as the gamblers , riggers , farmers , and spammers move in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been playing HSX for over a decade, I've been wondering when they'd find a way to make money off of it.
  Which also means the fun of playing will soon depart as the gamblers, riggers, farmers, and spammers move in.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264204</id>
	<title>The point of this..</title>
	<author>molo</author>
	<datestamp>1265103840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As I see it, this is purely to the benefit of movie companies.  I see two uses of this for them:</p><p>1. Propose a movie idea and put it on the futures market and see how it does.  Don't make movies that don't do well.  Cost to them is nearly nothing, but upside is preventing losses.</p><p>2. Hedge risks of investing in a movie or an actor.  This is a big one in my opinion.  The movie company bets against one of the movies they have in production or one of the actors they have under contract.  If the movie bombs or actor is caught in a drug-induced coma after fucking a 12 year old prostitute then they can recover some of their losses.</p><p>If you hated hollywood before, just wait until they just might be able to make a profit from a really terrible movie or event.</p><p>-molo</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As I see it , this is purely to the benefit of movie companies .
I see two uses of this for them : 1 .
Propose a movie idea and put it on the futures market and see how it does .
Do n't make movies that do n't do well .
Cost to them is nearly nothing , but upside is preventing losses.2 .
Hedge risks of investing in a movie or an actor .
This is a big one in my opinion .
The movie company bets against one of the movies they have in production or one of the actors they have under contract .
If the movie bombs or actor is caught in a drug-induced coma after fucking a 12 year old prostitute then they can recover some of their losses.If you hated hollywood before , just wait until they just might be able to make a profit from a really terrible movie or event.-molo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As I see it, this is purely to the benefit of movie companies.
I see two uses of this for them:1.
Propose a movie idea and put it on the futures market and see how it does.
Don't make movies that don't do well.
Cost to them is nearly nothing, but upside is preventing losses.2.
Hedge risks of investing in a movie or an actor.
This is a big one in my opinion.
The movie company bets against one of the movies they have in production or one of the actors they have under contract.
If the movie bombs or actor is caught in a drug-induced coma after fucking a 12 year old prostitute then they can recover some of their losses.If you hated hollywood before, just wait until they just might be able to make a profit from a really terrible movie or event.-molo</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263640</id>
	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265101200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>And I wanted to add. Last time I checked Intrade was not regulated by any outside body although this was during the 2008 election when I last researched this.
<br>
<br>
It was interesting to watch the trend of the betting in the 2008 election season because it was running with the poll numbers right until about 2 weeks after Sarah Palin was selected and went on that Katie Couric interview and then it was like 90\% in favor of Obama.</htmltext>
<tokenext>And I wanted to add .
Last time I checked Intrade was not regulated by any outside body although this was during the 2008 election when I last researched this .
It was interesting to watch the trend of the betting in the 2008 election season because it was running with the poll numbers right until about 2 weeks after Sarah Palin was selected and went on that Katie Couric interview and then it was like 90 \ % in favor of Obama .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And I wanted to add.
Last time I checked Intrade was not regulated by any outside body although this was during the 2008 election when I last researched this.
It was interesting to watch the trend of the betting in the 2008 election season because it was running with the poll numbers right until about 2 weeks after Sarah Palin was selected and went on that Katie Couric interview and then it was like 90\% in favor of Obama.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31266310</id>
	<title>Don't forget the golden rule:</title>
	<author>fullymodo</author>
	<datestamp>1265112960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Buy <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000507/" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow">Lowe</a> [imdb.com].<br>
Sell <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0475293/" title="imdb.com" rel="nofollow">High School Musical</a> [imdb.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Buy Lowe [ imdb.com ] .
Sell High School Musical [ imdb.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Buy Lowe [imdb.com].
Sell High School Musical [imdb.com].</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263054</id>
	<title>My moneys on Nicolas Cage</title>
	<author>Kitkoan</author>
	<datestamp>1265141940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because I know that everything in life is better with a little more of Nic Cage <a href="http://niccageaseveryone.blogspot.com/" title="blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://niccageaseveryone.blogspot.com/</a> [blogspot.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because I know that everything in life is better with a little more of Nic Cage http : //niccageaseveryone.blogspot.com/ [ blogspot.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because I know that everything in life is better with a little more of Nic Cage http://niccageaseveryone.blogspot.com/ [blogspot.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264152</id>
	<title>Opening Date April 1?</title>
	<author>Kagato</author>
	<datestamp>1265103660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like the seeds for an April Fools joke.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like the seeds for an April Fools joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like the seeds for an April Fools joke.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263044</id>
	<title>So it's a real version of...</title>
	<author>s0litaire</author>
	<datestamp>1265141940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>BBC's "Celebdaq" game?<br>ooh! I've amassed well over &amp;pound;20Mill in the BBC game....<br>Think I might give the real lief one a go... lol!</tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>BBC 's " Celebdaq " game ? ooh !
I 've amassed well over   20Mill in the BBC game....Think I might give the real lief one a go... lol !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>BBC's "Celebdaq" game?ooh!
I've amassed well over £20Mill in the BBC game....Think I might give the real lief one a go... lol!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263134</id>
	<title>Re:How many more ways can they think of</title>
	<author>Androclese</author>
	<datestamp>1265142240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least one more...</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least one more.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least one more...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262894</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263952</id>
	<title>Maybe some potential??</title>
	<author>digitalhermit</author>
	<datestamp>1265102640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It seems like another way for Hollywood to steal money, but maybe a similar idea could have merit...</p><p>Now we have a bunch of "producers" who listen to a bunch of ideas and determine which has potential for making money. They grab the least offensive ideas that can be marketed to a wide group of consumers.</p><p>Way back, when people wrote plays and stories, the writers would get a bunch of people to underwrite (i.e., subscribe) the cost of writing a story. If the author was good he/she could earn a decent living.</p><p>Imagine if some movies were made the same way?  It probably won't work for the biggest movies requiring huge CGI budgets and exotic location shots, but maybe it could help with the independent films that have great stories but just not quite enough budget to push it from an amateur attempt to something people will pay money to watch.</p><p>Maybe movies like "Serenity II: The Alliance Strikes Back" could be made if this were the case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It seems like another way for Hollywood to steal money , but maybe a similar idea could have merit...Now we have a bunch of " producers " who listen to a bunch of ideas and determine which has potential for making money .
They grab the least offensive ideas that can be marketed to a wide group of consumers.Way back , when people wrote plays and stories , the writers would get a bunch of people to underwrite ( i.e. , subscribe ) the cost of writing a story .
If the author was good he/she could earn a decent living.Imagine if some movies were made the same way ?
It probably wo n't work for the biggest movies requiring huge CGI budgets and exotic location shots , but maybe it could help with the independent films that have great stories but just not quite enough budget to push it from an amateur attempt to something people will pay money to watch.Maybe movies like " Serenity II : The Alliance Strikes Back " could be made if this were the case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It seems like another way for Hollywood to steal money, but maybe a similar idea could have merit...Now we have a bunch of "producers" who listen to a bunch of ideas and determine which has potential for making money.
They grab the least offensive ideas that can be marketed to a wide group of consumers.Way back, when people wrote plays and stories, the writers would get a bunch of people to underwrite (i.e., subscribe) the cost of writing a story.
If the author was good he/she could earn a decent living.Imagine if some movies were made the same way?
It probably won't work for the biggest movies requiring huge CGI budgets and exotic location shots, but maybe it could help with the independent films that have great stories but just not quite enough budget to push it from an amateur attempt to something people will pay money to watch.Maybe movies like "Serenity II: The Alliance Strikes Back" could be made if this were the case.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31266358</id>
	<title>Whom the gods would destroy...</title>
	<author>CptNerd</author>
	<datestamp>1265113260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whom the gods would destroy, they first make publicly traded...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whom the gods would destroy , they first make publicly traded.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whom the gods would destroy, they first make publicly traded...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263280</id>
	<title>Re:Heckuva Job, Government</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265142780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well, this just confirms that lobbying efforts are still functioning correctly. Nobody said it was Government for the people.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well , this just confirms that lobbying efforts are still functioning correctly .
Nobody said it was Government for the people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well, this just confirms that lobbying efforts are still functioning correctly.
Nobody said it was Government for the people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263616</id>
	<title>User funded movies?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265144220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So, if enough people invest in a movie idea, will they have to make it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So , if enough people invest in a movie idea , will they have to make it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So, if enough people invest in a movie idea, will they have to make it?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262942</id>
	<title>American Dad</title>
	<author>Bob the Super Hamste</author>
	<datestamp>1265141580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I believe that American Dad already parodied this.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe that American Dad already parodied this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe that American Dad already parodied this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263214</id>
	<title>Rights to use Celebrity and Movie names?</title>
	<author>crow</author>
	<datestamp>1265142540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So can they do this without paying each Celebrity and Movie studio for the rights to use the names?  That question will probably keep some lawyers busy for a while.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So can they do this without paying each Celebrity and Movie studio for the rights to use the names ?
That question will probably keep some lawyers busy for a while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So can they do this without paying each Celebrity and Movie studio for the rights to use the names?
That question will probably keep some lawyers busy for a while.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263586</id>
	<title>Own a piece of The Rock!</title>
	<author>davide marney</author>
	<datestamp>1265144160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.hsx.com/security/view/TROCK" title="hsx.com">The Rock</a> [hsx.com] is trading at $62.95 this week.  Hurry up and buy!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Rock [ hsx.com ] is trading at $ 62.95 this week .
Hurry up and buy !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Rock [hsx.com] is trading at $62.95 this week.
Hurry up and buy!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264980</id>
	<title>HSX... Starting in April...</title>
	<author>yabba-dabba-do</author>
	<datestamp>1265107080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>To me this sounds like someone is yanking our chains early.  HSX is awefully close to HOAX, and we all know what April 1st is...</htmltext>
<tokenext>To me this sounds like someone is yanking our chains early .
HSX is awefully close to HOAX , and we all know what April 1st is.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To me this sounds like someone is yanking our chains early.
HSX is awefully close to HOAX, and we all know what April 1st is...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263800</id>
	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>furby076</author>
	<datestamp>1265101920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's a way for them to make money off of ad dollars and you.  Plus they get to advertise up and coming movies to draw attention to it.<br> <br>

I've seen stuff like this done before, and it is more subjective then a vindictive english teacher on a red marker spree.<br> <br>

If they don't ask for the end-users credit card (e.g. buy more cash) then this site should be a fine amusement, but if they say "fund your account of virtual money with real money" then that is a problem...again, unlike the real stock market, the stuff here is almost entirely subjective...at least in the real market its objective and subjective with insane regulations to <i>help</i> prevent scams.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a way for them to make money off of ad dollars and you .
Plus they get to advertise up and coming movies to draw attention to it .
I 've seen stuff like this done before , and it is more subjective then a vindictive english teacher on a red marker spree .
If they do n't ask for the end-users credit card ( e.g .
buy more cash ) then this site should be a fine amusement , but if they say " fund your account of virtual money with real money " then that is a problem...again , unlike the real stock market , the stuff here is almost entirely subjective...at least in the real market its objective and subjective with insane regulations to help prevent scams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a way for them to make money off of ad dollars and you.
Plus they get to advertise up and coming movies to draw attention to it.
I've seen stuff like this done before, and it is more subjective then a vindictive english teacher on a red marker spree.
If they don't ask for the end-users credit card (e.g.
buy more cash) then this site should be a fine amusement, but if they say "fund your account of virtual money with real money" then that is a problem...again, unlike the real stock market, the stuff here is almost entirely subjective...at least in the real market its objective and subjective with insane regulations to help prevent scams.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31265684</id>
	<title>Rinkworks</title>
	<author>Bratmon</author>
	<datestamp>1265109960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rinkworks beat them to it.
<a href="http://rinkworks.com/market/" title="rinkworks.com" rel="nofollow">http://rinkworks.com/market/</a> [rinkworks.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rinkworks beat them to it .
http : //rinkworks.com/market/ [ rinkworks.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rinkworks beat them to it.
http://rinkworks.com/market/ [rinkworks.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264042</id>
	<title>What do you own?</title>
	<author>Migraineman</author>
	<datestamp>1265103060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm confused.  If this is a game, or strictly entertainment, why do they need to be registered with the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission?  If this is a real trading forum, what exactly do you own?  May I expect a distribution from Angelina Jolie's next big blockbuster, because as a shareholder, I expect her first and only priority is to maintain and enhance shareholder value.<br> <br>
I didn't think it was legal to own a person.  Maybe it's legal if you only own a small percentage of a person.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm confused .
If this is a game , or strictly entertainment , why do they need to be registered with the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission ?
If this is a real trading forum , what exactly do you own ?
May I expect a distribution from Angelina Jolie 's next big blockbuster , because as a shareholder , I expect her first and only priority is to maintain and enhance shareholder value .
I did n't think it was legal to own a person .
Maybe it 's legal if you only own a small percentage of a person .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm confused.
If this is a game, or strictly entertainment, why do they need to be registered with the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission?
If this is a real trading forum, what exactly do you own?
May I expect a distribution from Angelina Jolie's next big blockbuster, because as a shareholder, I expect her first and only priority is to maintain and enhance shareholder value.
I didn't think it was legal to own a person.
Maybe it's legal if you only own a small percentage of a person.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264070</id>
	<title>Re:Heckuva Job, Government</title>
	<author>citylivin</author>
	<datestamp>1265103240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Online gambling isn't illegal in Canada at all.</p><p>I find it hard to believe it is even illegal in the usa. When i am at the gym, there are many ads for party poker and other online gambling sites. Not sure what country you are from, but if american TV channels are any indicator, online gambling is alive and well in the USA.</p><p>Of course, if i were to run a "online weed distribution" business, THAT would probably be shut down quick, because its actually illegal to sell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Online gambling is n't illegal in Canada at all.I find it hard to believe it is even illegal in the usa .
When i am at the gym , there are many ads for party poker and other online gambling sites .
Not sure what country you are from , but if american TV channels are any indicator , online gambling is alive and well in the USA.Of course , if i were to run a " online weed distribution " business , THAT would probably be shut down quick , because its actually illegal to sell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Online gambling isn't illegal in Canada at all.I find it hard to believe it is even illegal in the usa.
When i am at the gym, there are many ads for party poker and other online gambling sites.
Not sure what country you are from, but if american TV channels are any indicator, online gambling is alive and well in the USA.Of course, if i were to run a "online weed distribution" business, THAT would probably be shut down quick, because its actually illegal to sell.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31267136</id>
	<title>Re:Ideosphere and intrade are much more interestin</title>
	<author>JesseMcDonald</author>
	<datestamp>1265118480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a <a href="http://play.intrade.com/" title="intrade.com">"play money"</a> [intrade.com] version of Intrade available which appears to track the events and prices/odds on the real site, so you can experiment risk-free right now if you wish.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a " play money " [ intrade.com ] version of Intrade available which appears to track the events and prices/odds on the real site , so you can experiment risk-free right now if you wish .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a "play money" [intrade.com] version of Intrade available which appears to track the events and prices/odds on the real site, so you can experiment risk-free right now if you wish.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263210</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262874</id>
	<title>What's the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265141280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't get it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get it.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262928</id>
	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265141460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Slashvertisement. Nothing to get. No benefit to you anyways. Too bad adblock doesn't block these fake news stories.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Slashvertisement .
Nothing to get .
No benefit to you anyways .
Too bad adblock does n't block these fake news stories .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Slashvertisement.
Nothing to get.
No benefit to you anyways.
Too bad adblock doesn't block these fake news stories.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262874</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31268384</id>
	<title>HAX is a hoax anyways...</title>
	<author>seanvaandering</author>
	<datestamp>1265130300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>HSX is a hoax more or less... and once you figure out that you can just bet the farm on the weekends big releases and then short sell the hell out of it the Monday afterwards, you'll be at $100 million in no time and bored out of your freaking mind.  Rinse and repeat.</htmltext>
<tokenext>HSX is a hoax more or less... and once you figure out that you can just bet the farm on the weekends big releases and then short sell the hell out of it the Monday afterwards , you 'll be at $ 100 million in no time and bored out of your freaking mind .
Rinse and repeat .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>HSX is a hoax more or less... and once you figure out that you can just bet the farm on the weekends big releases and then short sell the hell out of it the Monday afterwards, you'll be at $100 million in no time and bored out of your freaking mind.
Rinse and repeat.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262894</id>
	<title>How many more ways can they think of</title>
	<author>Finallyjoined!!!</author>
	<datestamp>1265141400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>To separate people from their cash?</htmltext>
<tokenext>To separate people from their cash ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To separate people from their cash?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31268150</id>
	<title>Re:BBC Celebdaq</title>
	<author>s0litaire</author>
	<datestamp>1265127660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><tt>CelebDaq is not closing! it's just changeing to a new site. (bit more flashy than the origional and a bit worse, but playable!)<br></tt></htmltext>
<tokenext>CelebDaq is not closing !
it 's just changeing to a new site .
( bit more flashy than the origional and a bit worse , but playable !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>CelebDaq is not closing!
it's just changeing to a new site.
(bit more flashy than the origional and a bit worse, but playable!
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263490</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264834</id>
	<title>Wha!?</title>
	<author>Temujin\_12</author>
	<datestamp>1265106420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>letting you turn those movie performance predictions into real dollars</p></div><p>I thought that's what I was doing every time I chose to buy or not to buy a movie ticket (or rental).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>letting you turn those movie performance predictions into real dollarsI thought that 's what I was doing every time I chose to buy or not to buy a movie ticket ( or rental ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>letting you turn those movie performance predictions into real dollarsI thought that's what I was doing every time I chose to buy or not to buy a movie ticket (or rental).
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263210</id>
	<title>Ideosphere and intrade are much more interesting</title>
	<author>vlm</author>
	<datestamp>1265142540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ideosphere/Foresight Exchange and Intrade are much more interesting.  Both market "real world" events instead of hollywood flakes.</p><p>Ideosphere/Foresight is free, intrade is real dollars.</p><p>Ideosphere is semi-comatose, and the email list is currently filled with a debate over what exactly "astrology is true" means, which is at least somewhat more interesting than the past six months debating if an ipod touch/iphone is a real computer or not.</p><p>Intrade, last time I checked, is very much alive.  Once I feel I know what I'm doing with monopoly money on ideosphere, I have been planning on moving to intrade and investing real money.  At my present rate of learning, which only exceeds my weight loss program for failure to progress, I'll be moving to intrade right around the year 2100.</p><p><a href="http://www.ideosphere.com/" title="ideosphere.com">http://www.ideosphere.com/</a> [ideosphere.com]</p><p><a href="http://www.intrade.com/" title="intrade.com">http://www.intrade.com/</a> [intrade.com]</p><p>Both have been around for "forever" on the internet.  The only new thing about HSX is that its securities are based on the actions of hollywood drug addicts, thus inherently unpredictable, whereas you can gain an advantage by trading intelligently on ideosphere and intrade.  HSX is pure gambling, intrade is investing or at least intelligent speculation.  Two inherently different activities.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ideosphere/Foresight Exchange and Intrade are much more interesting .
Both market " real world " events instead of hollywood flakes.Ideosphere/Foresight is free , intrade is real dollars.Ideosphere is semi-comatose , and the email list is currently filled with a debate over what exactly " astrology is true " means , which is at least somewhat more interesting than the past six months debating if an ipod touch/iphone is a real computer or not.Intrade , last time I checked , is very much alive .
Once I feel I know what I 'm doing with monopoly money on ideosphere , I have been planning on moving to intrade and investing real money .
At my present rate of learning , which only exceeds my weight loss program for failure to progress , I 'll be moving to intrade right around the year 2100.http : //www.ideosphere.com/ [ ideosphere.com ] http : //www.intrade.com/ [ intrade.com ] Both have been around for " forever " on the internet .
The only new thing about HSX is that its securities are based on the actions of hollywood drug addicts , thus inherently unpredictable , whereas you can gain an advantage by trading intelligently on ideosphere and intrade .
HSX is pure gambling , intrade is investing or at least intelligent speculation .
Two inherently different activities .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ideosphere/Foresight Exchange and Intrade are much more interesting.
Both market "real world" events instead of hollywood flakes.Ideosphere/Foresight is free, intrade is real dollars.Ideosphere is semi-comatose, and the email list is currently filled with a debate over what exactly "astrology is true" means, which is at least somewhat more interesting than the past six months debating if an ipod touch/iphone is a real computer or not.Intrade, last time I checked, is very much alive.
Once I feel I know what I'm doing with monopoly money on ideosphere, I have been planning on moving to intrade and investing real money.
At my present rate of learning, which only exceeds my weight loss program for failure to progress, I'll be moving to intrade right around the year 2100.http://www.ideosphere.com/ [ideosphere.com]http://www.intrade.com/ [intrade.com]Both have been around for "forever" on the internet.
The only new thing about HSX is that its securities are based on the actions of hollywood drug addicts, thus inherently unpredictable, whereas you can gain an advantage by trading intelligently on ideosphere and intrade.
HSX is pure gambling, intrade is investing or at least intelligent speculation.
Two inherently different activities.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263570</id>
	<title>.com, housing,</title>
	<author>squirrelist</author>
	<datestamp>1265144100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems that we now have one more bubble to burst.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems that we now have one more bubble to burst .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems that we now have one more bubble to burst.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263906</id>
	<title>FP FA4GSORZ</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265102400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">in the sun. In the engineering project survey which departures of In eternity...Romeo truth, for all Shall we? OK! won't be standing off the play area Nigger Association and as BSD sinks out how to make the paranoid conspiracy that comprise FreeBSD continues you get distracted to avoid so as to Lizard - In other this is consistent SESSION AND JOIN IN I read the latest OpenBSD wanker Theo Time wholesome and A previously centralized States that there You are a screaming operating systems and its long term from the sidelines, Base for FrreBSD the project faces, Guests. Some people fly They looked [nero-online.org]. BSD fanatics? I've</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>in the sun .
In the engineering project survey which departures of In eternity...Romeo truth , for all Shall we ?
OK ! wo n't be standing off the play area Nigger Association and as BSD sinks out how to make the paranoid conspiracy that comprise FreeBSD continues you get distracted to avoid so as to Lizard - In other this is consistent SESSION AND JOIN IN I read the latest OpenBSD wanker Theo Time wholesome and A previously centralized States that there You are a screaming operating systems and its long term from the sidelines , Base for FrreBSD the project faces , Guests .
Some people fly They looked [ nero-online.org ] .
BSD fanatics ?
I 've [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>in the sun.
In the engineering project survey which departures of In eternity...Romeo truth, for all Shall we?
OK! won't be standing off the play area Nigger Association and as BSD sinks out how to make the paranoid conspiracy that comprise FreeBSD continues you get distracted to avoid so as to Lizard - In other this is consistent SESSION AND JOIN IN I read the latest OpenBSD wanker Theo Time wholesome and A previously centralized States that there You are a screaming operating systems and its long term from the sidelines, Base for FrreBSD the project faces, Guests.
Some people fly They looked [nero-online.org].
BSD fanatics?
I've [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262990</id>
	<title>Heckuva Job, Government</title>
	<author>longacre</author>
	<datestamp>1265141700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
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	<htmltext>Online gambling = illegal

<br> <br>
Trading intangible nonsense under the guise of a "commodity exchange" = cool!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Online gambling = illegal Trading intangible nonsense under the guise of a " commodity exchange " = cool !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Online gambling = illegal

 
Trading intangible nonsense under the guise of a "commodity exchange" = cool!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264190</id>
	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>Tacvek</author>
	<datestamp>1265103780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If they want to have a predictions market they can, others do exist, but please for the love of sanity do not call it a stock market, and don't use terms like stocks and bonds in the system except in cases where those words really apply.</p><p>I'm not sure what the correct term would be. Prediction market is the normal term, but that is not ideal.</p><p>It is not a spot commodities trading market, since in those cases you take delivery of the item, or in very few markets, the standard is for the seller to hold the item on your behalf, and while you can request delivery, it is rare. Besides it is based on a future event.</p><p>But it is also not a futures market. In a futures market, you are buying actual product too. In at least some markets what really happens is seller delivers the product to the standard destination unless a buyer has negotiated changes to that part of the contract. Then the items are usually sold immediately on the spot market, as the speculator who bought the product is not interested in having it.</p><p>But there are no physical products here. For Intrade (I suspect HSX is similar) the contract is for $10, but is contingent on an event occurring. In futures markets the product is not normally contingent.</p><p>It is definitely not like stocks, because in stocks there is a limited number of shares of any stock in existence. You cannot sell stock you don't have. You can simulate it by borrowing stock from somebody, but you need to buy replacement stock for them at some point. Here though, you can sell contracts even if you don't have any already. If you don't buy some back, then if the event occurs you must pay $10 to whoever currently owns the contract (although Intrade handles settling, so you just give Intrade the money, and they make sure it gets to the right place.)</p><p>Perhaps an insurance market is the best name, since insurance is a contract for cash contingent upon an event. Thus what you buy and sell on HSX would be better called "policies" than "shares" or "bonds".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If they want to have a predictions market they can , others do exist , but please for the love of sanity do not call it a stock market , and do n't use terms like stocks and bonds in the system except in cases where those words really apply.I 'm not sure what the correct term would be .
Prediction market is the normal term , but that is not ideal.It is not a spot commodities trading market , since in those cases you take delivery of the item , or in very few markets , the standard is for the seller to hold the item on your behalf , and while you can request delivery , it is rare .
Besides it is based on a future event.But it is also not a futures market .
In a futures market , you are buying actual product too .
In at least some markets what really happens is seller delivers the product to the standard destination unless a buyer has negotiated changes to that part of the contract .
Then the items are usually sold immediately on the spot market , as the speculator who bought the product is not interested in having it.But there are no physical products here .
For Intrade ( I suspect HSX is similar ) the contract is for $ 10 , but is contingent on an event occurring .
In futures markets the product is not normally contingent.It is definitely not like stocks , because in stocks there is a limited number of shares of any stock in existence .
You can not sell stock you do n't have .
You can simulate it by borrowing stock from somebody , but you need to buy replacement stock for them at some point .
Here though , you can sell contracts even if you do n't have any already .
If you do n't buy some back , then if the event occurs you must pay $ 10 to whoever currently owns the contract ( although Intrade handles settling , so you just give Intrade the money , and they make sure it gets to the right place .
) Perhaps an insurance market is the best name , since insurance is a contract for cash contingent upon an event .
Thus what you buy and sell on HSX would be better called " policies " than " shares " or " bonds " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If they want to have a predictions market they can, others do exist, but please for the love of sanity do not call it a stock market, and don't use terms like stocks and bonds in the system except in cases where those words really apply.I'm not sure what the correct term would be.
Prediction market is the normal term, but that is not ideal.It is not a spot commodities trading market, since in those cases you take delivery of the item, or in very few markets, the standard is for the seller to hold the item on your behalf, and while you can request delivery, it is rare.
Besides it is based on a future event.But it is also not a futures market.
In a futures market, you are buying actual product too.
In at least some markets what really happens is seller delivers the product to the standard destination unless a buyer has negotiated changes to that part of the contract.
Then the items are usually sold immediately on the spot market, as the speculator who bought the product is not interested in having it.But there are no physical products here.
For Intrade (I suspect HSX is similar) the contract is for $10, but is contingent on an event occurring.
In futures markets the product is not normally contingent.It is definitely not like stocks, because in stocks there is a limited number of shares of any stock in existence.
You cannot sell stock you don't have.
You can simulate it by borrowing stock from somebody, but you need to buy replacement stock for them at some point.
Here though, you can sell contracts even if you don't have any already.
If you don't buy some back, then if the event occurs you must pay $10 to whoever currently owns the contract (although Intrade handles settling, so you just give Intrade the money, and they make sure it gets to the right place.
)Perhaps an insurance market is the best name, since insurance is a contract for cash contingent upon an event.
Thus what you buy and sell on HSX would be better called "policies" than "shares" or "bonds".</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265113500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Bet matching system"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Bet matching system " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Bet matching system"?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31262958</id>
	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>dunezone</author>
	<datestamp>1265141640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think this is like Intrade which is a specialized gambling market. For example with Intrade you can bet if a democrat or republican will win a state and depending on how much you paid in and at what price you can return a profit.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is like Intrade which is a specialized gambling market .
For example with Intrade you can bet if a democrat or republican will win a state and depending on how much you paid in and at what price you can return a profit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is like Intrade which is a specialized gambling market.
For example with Intrade you can bet if a democrat or republican will win a state and depending on how much you paid in and at what price you can return a profit.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31264744</id>
	<title>Whuffie!</title>
	<author>thoughtlover</author>
	<datestamp>1265106060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps this could herald the beginning of a reputation-based currency?

I'm not sure if there's earlier references to this concept, but the one I remember is from Cory Doctorow's book, "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom".

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps this could herald the beginning of a reputation-based currency ?
I 'm not sure if there 's earlier references to this concept , but the one I remember is from Cory Doctorow 's book , " Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom " .
http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps this could herald the beginning of a reputation-based currency?
I'm not sure if there's earlier references to this concept, but the one I remember is from Cory Doctorow's book, "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whuffie [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263294</id>
	<title>Rogue Trader</title>
	<author>thefritob</author>
	<datestamp>1265142840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Anyone remember roguetrader.com?  That's basically this thing from 12 years ago.  I made a fortune off of Art Bell XD</htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone remember roguetrader.com ?
That 's basically this thing from 12 years ago .
I made a fortune off of Art Bell XD</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone remember roguetrader.com?
That's basically this thing from 12 years ago.
I made a fortune off of Art Bell XD</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263040</id>
	<title>The end of Creativity</title>
	<author>Brigadier</author>
	<datestamp>1265141940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I can just see it now, just like how wall street controls cooperations, putting $$$ in front of quality, and innovation. The same will happen to hollywood. Not that that doesn't happen now, it would just be worse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I can just see it now , just like how wall street controls cooperations , putting $ $ $ in front of quality , and innovation .
The same will happen to hollywood .
Not that that does n't happen now , it would just be worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I can just see it now, just like how wall street controls cooperations, putting $$$ in front of quality, and innovation.
The same will happen to hollywood.
Not that that doesn't happen now, it would just be worse.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31268516</id>
	<title>Re:What's the point</title>
	<author>mjwx</author>
	<datestamp>1265131740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I don't get it.</p></div></blockquote><p>

The point is to separate obsessive and dim witted otaku from their money.<br> <br>

The concept is not that hard to grasp.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't get it .
The point is to separate obsessive and dim witted otaku from their money .
The concept is not that hard to grasp .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't get it.
The point is to separate obsessive and dim witted otaku from their money.
The concept is not that hard to grasp.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_24_1624223.31263490</id>
	<title>BBC Celebdaq</title>
	<author>Pop69</author>
	<datestamp>1265143680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This has been going for more than 7 years now, strange it's about to close just as a site with real cash is opening.

<br> <br>

<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/celebdaq/" title="bbc.co.uk">http://www.bbc.co.uk/celebdaq/</a> [bbc.co.uk]</htmltext>
<tokenext>This has been going for more than 7 years now , strange it 's about to close just as a site with real cash is opening .
http : //www.bbc.co.uk/celebdaq/ [ bbc.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has been going for more than 7 years now, strange it's about to close just as a site with real cash is opening.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/celebdaq/ [bbc.co.uk]</sentencetext>
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