<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_22_2317258</id>
	<title>IOC Orders Blogger To Take Down Video</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1266842220000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"The International Olympic Committee <a href="http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/20100222/ioc-orders-blogger-take-down-video.htm">has ordered a blogger to remove a video</a> from his website showing the death of Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili. The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games, and only licensed broadcasters can use them. However, the blogger, Stephen Pate, points to a Canadian law that allows copyrighted images to be used in newsworthy cases."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " The International Olympic Committee has ordered a blogger to remove a video from his website showing the death of Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili .
The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games , and only licensed broadcasters can use them .
However , the blogger , Stephen Pate , points to a Canadian law that allows copyrighted images to be used in newsworthy cases .
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<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "The International Olympic Committee has ordered a blogger to remove a video from his website showing the death of Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili.
The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games, and only licensed broadcasters can use them.
However, the blogger, Stephen Pate, points to a Canadian law that allows copyrighted images to be used in newsworthy cases.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31241656</id>
	<title>Re:Important point</title>
	<author>PFAK</author>
	<datestamp>1266956400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pretty much, I've been documenting on and off for the past while the various (negative) things that have been happening with the games. It's a shame really.</p><p>My (somewhat) compiled list is available at <a href="http://peterkieser.com/vancouver-2010/" title="peterkieser.com">http://peterkieser.com/vancouver-2010/</a> [peterkieser.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pretty much , I 've been documenting on and off for the past while the various ( negative ) things that have been happening with the games .
It 's a shame really.My ( somewhat ) compiled list is available at http : //peterkieser.com/vancouver-2010/ [ peterkieser.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pretty much, I've been documenting on and off for the past while the various (negative) things that have been happening with the games.
It's a shame really.My (somewhat) compiled list is available at http://peterkieser.com/vancouver-2010/ [peterkieser.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238868</id>
	<title>If wishing made it so...</title>
	<author>Anonymous Brave Guy</author>
	<datestamp>1266846240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm quite sure the IOC (and other major sports promoters) would <em>like</em> the copyright on every image taken, but I've never understood what their legal basis for making such a claim would be. Do they require that everyone attending sign an agreement assigning all rights in any recordings they make to the IOC, or something along those lines?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm quite sure the IOC ( and other major sports promoters ) would like the copyright on every image taken , but I 've never understood what their legal basis for making such a claim would be .
Do they require that everyone attending sign an agreement assigning all rights in any recordings they make to the IOC , or something along those lines ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm quite sure the IOC (and other major sports promoters) would like the copyright on every image taken, but I've never understood what their legal basis for making such a claim would be.
Do they require that everyone attending sign an agreement assigning all rights in any recordings they make to the IOC, or something along those lines?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239424</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new</title>
	<author>twidarkling</author>
	<datestamp>1266849480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Yep, and the "Olympic Movement" is given special rights under US Laws</p></div><p>Except he's citing a Canadian law. If he's based in Canada, then he's probably got a home-run case.</p><p>If he's *not* in Canada, dude's fucked. Just because the games are taking place here doesn't mean he'd be covered under Canadian copyright laws. Unfortunately, tfa didn't say, that I saw, and I can't be assed to look it up.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , and the " Olympic Movement " is given special rights under US LawsExcept he 's citing a Canadian law .
If he 's based in Canada , then he 's probably got a home-run case.If he 's * not * in Canada , dude 's fucked .
Just because the games are taking place here does n't mean he 'd be covered under Canadian copyright laws .
Unfortunately , tfa did n't say , that I saw , and I ca n't be assed to look it up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, and the "Olympic Movement" is given special rights under US LawsExcept he's citing a Canadian law.
If he's based in Canada, then he's probably got a home-run case.If he's *not* in Canada, dude's fucked.
Just because the games are taking place here doesn't mean he'd be covered under Canadian copyright laws.
Unfortunately, tfa didn't say, that I saw, and I can't be assed to look it up.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239216</id>
	<title>my 2 cents</title>
	<author>Nyder</author>
	<datestamp>1266848220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Um, they don't seem to make those tracks safe at all if someone crashes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Um , they do n't seem to make those tracks safe at all if someone crashes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Um, they don't seem to make those tracks safe at all if someone crashes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239788</id>
	<title>and in other news..</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266851880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>with equal probability of happening, blogger orders IOC to suck a fat one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>with equal probability of happening , blogger orders IOC to suck a fat one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>with equal probability of happening, blogger orders IOC to suck a fat one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240854</id>
	<title>Re:maybe legal but...</title>
	<author>Falconhell</author>
	<datestamp>1266861300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just dont buy the protect the family thing.</p><p>There is nothing forcing them to find and watch this video. If the IOC had shut the fuck up,<br>the family would have been unlikely to even know this site existed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just dont buy the protect the family thing.There is nothing forcing them to find and watch this video .
If the IOC had shut the fuck up,the family would have been unlikely to even know this site existed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just dont buy the protect the family thing.There is nothing forcing them to find and watch this video.
If the IOC had shut the fuck up,the family would have been unlikely to even know this site existed.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239608</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239666</id>
	<title>Classic response...</title>
	<author>orsty3001</author>
	<datestamp>1266851100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Make me!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Make me !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Make me!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239122</id>
	<title>Here is the link!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266847680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.njnvideo.com/njn/?p=995" title="njnvideo.com" rel="nofollow">Luger Dies</a> [njnvideo.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Luger Dies [ njnvideo.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Luger Dies [njnvideo.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238816</id>
	<title>Nothing new</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266846000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The IOC has taken an extreme protectionist stance on all its content for many years. It doesn't matter if it's fair use or not, the IOC will object on principle.</p><p>The Olympics are big money.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The IOC has taken an extreme protectionist stance on all its content for many years .
It does n't matter if it 's fair use or not , the IOC will object on principle.The Olympics are big money .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The IOC has taken an extreme protectionist stance on all its content for many years.
It doesn't matter if it's fair use or not, the IOC will object on principle.The Olympics are big money.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239198</id>
	<title>Re:Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>Opportunist</author>
	<datestamp>1266848100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The difference is that the internet is not a broadcasting medium. It's not up to the sender to push his message to the receiver. It's the receiver who has to actively request the information. The difference is the same as with physical goods. If I send merchandize to a country where I may not send it to, I'm breaking the law, even if said goods are legal in my country. Contrary, if you come to my country, take the goods and transport it at your request to your country where these goods are illegal, you're breaking the law. Basically a sign telling people "you're in violation of international copyright if you view this from any location but X" should suffice.</p><p>Yes, I'm aware that often the law does not follow this logic. Not because it made sense in some sort of way, only because it's easier to deal with one sender instead of thousands of recepients.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The difference is that the internet is not a broadcasting medium .
It 's not up to the sender to push his message to the receiver .
It 's the receiver who has to actively request the information .
The difference is the same as with physical goods .
If I send merchandize to a country where I may not send it to , I 'm breaking the law , even if said goods are legal in my country .
Contrary , if you come to my country , take the goods and transport it at your request to your country where these goods are illegal , you 're breaking the law .
Basically a sign telling people " you 're in violation of international copyright if you view this from any location but X " should suffice.Yes , I 'm aware that often the law does not follow this logic .
Not because it made sense in some sort of way , only because it 's easier to deal with one sender instead of thousands of recepients .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The difference is that the internet is not a broadcasting medium.
It's not up to the sender to push his message to the receiver.
It's the receiver who has to actively request the information.
The difference is the same as with physical goods.
If I send merchandize to a country where I may not send it to, I'm breaking the law, even if said goods are legal in my country.
Contrary, if you come to my country, take the goods and transport it at your request to your country where these goods are illegal, you're breaking the law.
Basically a sign telling people "you're in violation of international copyright if you view this from any location but X" should suffice.Yes, I'm aware that often the law does not follow this logic.
Not because it made sense in some sort of way, only because it's easier to deal with one sender instead of thousands of recepients.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239014</id>
	<title>Re:The IOC is above THE LAW!</title>
	<author>BitterOak</author>
	<datestamp>1266847080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar, but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.</p></div><p>from <a href="http://www.ctvolympics.ca/ski-jumping/news/newsid=12739.html" title="ctvolympics.ca">CTV.</a> [ctvolympics.ca] </p><p>That's one reason I'm not watching them.</p></div><p>The problem is the want to <i>use</i> the law, specifically copyright law, to force the blogger to take down the video.  That means the IOC would have to take the case to court, so this wouldn't be a case about the application of the law to the IOC, but rather to the blogger.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee 's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar , but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.from CTV .
[ ctvolympics.ca ] That 's one reason I 'm not watching them.The problem is the want to use the law , specifically copyright law , to force the blogger to take down the video .
That means the IOC would have to take the case to court , so this would n't be a case about the application of the law to the IOC , but rather to the blogger .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar, but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.from CTV.
[ctvolympics.ca] That's one reason I'm not watching them.The problem is the want to use the law, specifically copyright law, to force the blogger to take down the video.
That means the IOC would have to take the case to court, so this wouldn't be a case about the application of the law to the IOC, but rather to the blogger.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238900</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239490</id>
	<title>Its wrong to have pillars that close to the track.</title>
	<author>jobst</author>
	<datestamp>1266849840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is wrong to have pillars that close to the track and Stephen Plate shows this to the rest of the world.<br>Period!<br>No discussion!<br>It is absolute stupid the way the track was designed and that is the flaw. The guy would not have died if its was not for the pillars.<br>You could compare that to have trees around a racing circuit directly beside the track and no run off area<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...<br>Bugger off IOC and let the rest of the world see what is wrong so it can be prevented next time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is wrong to have pillars that close to the track and Stephen Plate shows this to the rest of the world.Period ! No discussion ! It is absolute stupid the way the track was designed and that is the flaw .
The guy would not have died if its was not for the pillars.You could compare that to have trees around a racing circuit directly beside the track and no run off area ...Bugger off IOC and let the rest of the world see what is wrong so it can be prevented next time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is wrong to have pillars that close to the track and Stephen Plate shows this to the rest of the world.Period!No discussion!It is absolute stupid the way the track was designed and that is the flaw.
The guy would not have died if its was not for the pillars.You could compare that to have trees around a racing circuit directly beside the track and no run off area ...Bugger off IOC and let the rest of the world see what is wrong so it can be prevented next time.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31241434</id>
	<title>revoke special privileges</title>
	<author>pydev</author>
	<datestamp>1266867720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Olympics received special privileges (including special trademark protection) because they were intended to serve humanitarian purposes: improve understanding between the peoples of the world.  These days, they serve that function in about the same way Coca Cola and Nike do.  There is no reason anymore to grant special privileges to the Olympics.  And if we want to return to the Olympic ideals, rather than giving them special commercial privileges, they should be required to be a lot more non-commercial and open than they are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Olympics received special privileges ( including special trademark protection ) because they were intended to serve humanitarian purposes : improve understanding between the peoples of the world .
These days , they serve that function in about the same way Coca Cola and Nike do .
There is no reason anymore to grant special privileges to the Olympics .
And if we want to return to the Olympic ideals , rather than giving them special commercial privileges , they should be required to be a lot more non-commercial and open than they are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Olympics received special privileges (including special trademark protection) because they were intended to serve humanitarian purposes: improve understanding between the peoples of the world.
These days, they serve that function in about the same way Coca Cola and Nike do.
There is no reason anymore to grant special privileges to the Olympics.
And if we want to return to the Olympic ideals, rather than giving them special commercial privileges, they should be required to be a lot more non-commercial and open than they are.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31257656</id>
	<title>Riiight ...</title>
	<author>RockDoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1265113440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p> The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games,</p></div> </blockquote><p>Yeah, sure.<br>So, if I went to the Olympics and took photos of my family there, the IOC would assert copyright over them.<br>Riiight.</p><p>Well one good thing can be said for this (alleged) policy : it hasn't changed one whit, jot, or iota the probability of me attending an Olympic event, or indeed of spending a penny on merchandise for the Olympics, or indeed of deliberately spending any money supporting sport at all. The probabilities have changed from zero to zero.</p><p>Roll on 2012 and the planned terrorist massacres in London. Let's hope some good urban regeneration can happen in the bomb-scoured wreckage.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games , Yeah , sure.So , if I went to the Olympics and took photos of my family there , the IOC would assert copyright over them.Riiight.Well one good thing can be said for this ( alleged ) policy : it has n't changed one whit , jot , or iota the probability of me attending an Olympic event , or indeed of spending a penny on merchandise for the Olympics , or indeed of deliberately spending any money supporting sport at all .
The probabilities have changed from zero to zero.Roll on 2012 and the planned terrorist massacres in London .
Let 's hope some good urban regeneration can happen in the bomb-scoured wreckage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games, Yeah, sure.So, if I went to the Olympics and took photos of my family there, the IOC would assert copyright over them.Riiight.Well one good thing can be said for this (alleged) policy : it hasn't changed one whit, jot, or iota the probability of me attending an Olympic event, or indeed of spending a penny on merchandise for the Olympics, or indeed of deliberately spending any money supporting sport at all.
The probabilities have changed from zero to zero.Roll on 2012 and the planned terrorist massacres in London.
Let's hope some good urban regeneration can happen in the bomb-scoured wreckage.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31241384</id>
	<title>IOC to Stephen Pate.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266867180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mr. Pate, tear...down...this...vid!!!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mr. Pate , tear...down...this...vid ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mr. Pate, tear...down...this...vid!!!
!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31242192</id>
	<title>It is copyrighted because IOC wants to sell it</title>
	<author>woodengod</author>
	<datestamp>1266919920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Like for commercials, for example <a href="http://www.totalprosports.com/2010/02/19/too-soon-for-this-olympic-luge-advertisement/" title="totalprosports.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.totalprosports.com/2010/02/19/too-soon-for-this-olympic-luge-advertisement/</a> [totalprosports.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Like for commercials , for example http : //www.totalprosports.com/2010/02/19/too-soon-for-this-olympic-luge-advertisement/ [ totalprosports.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Like for commercials, for example http://www.totalprosports.com/2010/02/19/too-soon-for-this-olympic-luge-advertisement/ [totalprosports.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31241618</id>
	<title>Re:Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1266956040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Remember, if you're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world, you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.</p></div><p>I presume you're making sure that you comply with blasphemy laws of both Iran and Saudi Arabia when you compose your<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. posts?</p><p>The guy lives in Canada. Whatever U.S. thinks about it, he shouldn't care less about it, and has all rights to tell anyone from across the border to GTFO - unless he wants to visit U.S. in the future.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember , if you 're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world , you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.I presume you 're making sure that you comply with blasphemy laws of both Iran and Saudi Arabia when you compose your / .
posts ? The guy lives in Canada .
Whatever U.S. thinks about it , he should n't care less about it , and has all rights to tell anyone from across the border to GTFO - unless he wants to visit U.S. in the future .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember, if you're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world, you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.I presume you're making sure that you comply with blasphemy laws of both Iran and Saudi Arabia when you compose your /.
posts?The guy lives in Canada.
Whatever U.S. thinks about it, he shouldn't care less about it, and has all rights to tell anyone from across the border to GTFO - unless he wants to visit U.S. in the future.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240210</id>
	<title>Re:IOC CYA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266855300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>"It's fine" and "we better do something so the bleaters shut the fuck up" aren't mutually exclusive.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It 's fine " and " we better do something so the bleaters shut the fuck up " are n't mutually exclusive .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It's fine" and "we better do something so the bleaters shut the fuck up" aren't mutually exclusive.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239554</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239462</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new</title>
	<author>Frosty Piss</author>
	<datestamp>1266849720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Watch all the geeks hyperventilate as they pant out "Streisand Effect... Blaw, blaw, blaw..." like the IOC gives a shit. It's about money, folks, the IOC couldn't care less about "how it makes them look". And really, very few people will even be aware of this guy, even with your precious "Streisand Effect". The truth is, "The Games" are (today) a joke.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Watch all the geeks hyperventilate as they pant out " Streisand Effect... Blaw , blaw , blaw... " like the IOC gives a shit .
It 's about money , folks , the IOC could n't care less about " how it makes them look " .
And really , very few people will even be aware of this guy , even with your precious " Streisand Effect " .
The truth is , " The Games " are ( today ) a joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watch all the geeks hyperventilate as they pant out "Streisand Effect... Blaw, blaw, blaw..." like the IOC gives a shit.
It's about money, folks, the IOC couldn't care less about "how it makes them look".
And really, very few people will even be aware of this guy, even with your precious "Streisand Effect".
The truth is, "The Games" are (today) a joke.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31242816</id>
	<title>Re:Important point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266928680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Olympics are above the law, thanks to their well publicized over the years taking and giving of brown envelopes, don't pretend that's now stopped. Let's look at what they plan for the next summer Olympics in 2012.....</p><p>Londoner's that NEVER wanted the event and are being forced to pay for it in massive increases in local taxes, are being told they cannot protest against the Olympics or they will be arrested, and can have their home raided by the police. Is that the ancient Greek ideal of sport?</p><p>The Olympics is nothing but an orgy of corruption. Even the athletes happy to steal from taxpayers so they can have multi-billion cost venues that nobody will use after four weeks.</p><p>Thanks to a friend who pointed me to this video clip<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNzNN7jkGB4" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNzNN7jkGB4</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Olympics are above the law , thanks to their well publicized over the years taking and giving of brown envelopes , do n't pretend that 's now stopped .
Let 's look at what they plan for the next summer Olympics in 2012.....Londoner 's that NEVER wanted the event and are being forced to pay for it in massive increases in local taxes , are being told they can not protest against the Olympics or they will be arrested , and can have their home raided by the police .
Is that the ancient Greek ideal of sport ? The Olympics is nothing but an orgy of corruption .
Even the athletes happy to steal from taxpayers so they can have multi-billion cost venues that nobody will use after four weeks.Thanks to a friend who pointed me to this video cliphttp : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = HNzNN7jkGB4 [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Olympics are above the law, thanks to their well publicized over the years taking and giving of brown envelopes, don't pretend that's now stopped.
Let's look at what they plan for the next summer Olympics in 2012.....Londoner's that NEVER wanted the event and are being forced to pay for it in massive increases in local taxes, are being told they cannot protest against the Olympics or they will be arrested, and can have their home raided by the police.
Is that the ancient Greek ideal of sport?The Olympics is nothing but an orgy of corruption.
Even the athletes happy to steal from taxpayers so they can have multi-billion cost venues that nobody will use after four weeks.Thanks to a friend who pointed me to this video cliphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNzNN7jkGB4 [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239476</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1266849780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p> <em>They have it now, it'll take an act of Congress to get rid of it.</em> </p><p>
Or an act of the courts protecting the constitutional rights of the people.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They have it now , it 'll take an act of Congress to get rid of it .
Or an act of the courts protecting the constitutional rights of the people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> They have it now, it'll take an act of Congress to get rid of it.
Or an act of the courts protecting the constitutional rights of the people.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239186</id>
	<title>Re:Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266848040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption, he should have also put in a block (which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada. He'd have no liability there, but he's breaking copyright law in the USA</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I'm sorry to hear that your map only contains Canada and the USA, however I must point out that there are quite a few more countries in the world and the draconian US copyright laws don't apply in them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption , he should have also put in a block ( which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB ) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada .
He 'd have no liability there , but he 's breaking copyright law in the USA       I 'm sorry to hear that your map only contains Canada and the USA , however I must point out that there are quite a few more countries in the world and the draconian US copyright laws do n't apply in them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption, he should have also put in a block (which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada.
He'd have no liability there, but he's breaking copyright law in the USA
      I'm sorry to hear that your map only contains Canada and the USA, however I must point out that there are quite a few more countries in the world and the draconian US copyright laws don't apply in them.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31242516</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully it's a matter of taste</title>
	<author>selven</author>
	<datestamp>1266924720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With the video being out there, it helps prevent the IOC from creating their own BS story about how the accident was the athlete's fault since we have some evidence to work with.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With the video being out there , it helps prevent the IOC from creating their own BS story about how the accident was the athlete 's fault since we have some evidence to work with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With the video being out there, it helps prevent the IOC from creating their own BS story about how the accident was the athlete's fault since we have some evidence to work with.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239230</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240076</id>
	<title>Re:my response to IOC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266853920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>I plan on copyrighting reporting on the sun, pointing a camera at it, and then charging anyone who ventures outdoors during daylight hours for the privledge of "reporting" on the sun.</i> <p>
This assumes that the sun would not exist were it not for you, so that you could actually copyright the sun and all audio-visual representations thereof.</p><p>
I guess I'll know for sure tomorrow, because it's night time here now. If the sun doesn't come up tomorrow, I'll know I violated the DRM you put on it...</p><p>
The fact that the sun came up three weeks ago isn't news anymore, just like the fact that someone rammed themselves into a pole on the luge course two weeks ago isn't. The "news" value of the video is gone; it is solely the gruesome nature that remains as a draw.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I plan on copyrighting reporting on the sun , pointing a camera at it , and then charging anyone who ventures outdoors during daylight hours for the privledge of " reporting " on the sun .
This assumes that the sun would not exist were it not for you , so that you could actually copyright the sun and all audio-visual representations thereof .
I guess I 'll know for sure tomorrow , because it 's night time here now .
If the sun does n't come up tomorrow , I 'll know I violated the DRM you put on it.. . The fact that the sun came up three weeks ago is n't news anymore , just like the fact that someone rammed themselves into a pole on the luge course two weeks ago is n't .
The " news " value of the video is gone ; it is solely the gruesome nature that remains as a draw .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I plan on copyrighting reporting on the sun, pointing a camera at it, and then charging anyone who ventures outdoors during daylight hours for the privledge of "reporting" on the sun.
This assumes that the sun would not exist were it not for you, so that you could actually copyright the sun and all audio-visual representations thereof.
I guess I'll know for sure tomorrow, because it's night time here now.
If the sun doesn't come up tomorrow, I'll know I violated the DRM you put on it...
The fact that the sun came up three weeks ago isn't news anymore, just like the fact that someone rammed themselves into a pole on the luge course two weeks ago isn't.
The "news" value of the video is gone; it is solely the gruesome nature that remains as a draw.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238976</id>
	<title>Mod down</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1266846900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Warning GNAA link.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Warning GNAA link .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Warning GNAA link.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238918</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31241802</id>
	<title>Re:maybe legal but...</title>
	<author>spire3661</author>
	<datestamp>1266957660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get over your yourself. We all grew from his tragedy, there is nothing wrong with seeing it. If you dont like, TURN AWAY. The internet is not a broadcaster, you have to CHOOSE to see stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get over your yourself .
We all grew from his tragedy , there is nothing wrong with seeing it .
If you dont like , TURN AWAY .
The internet is not a broadcaster , you have to CHOOSE to see stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get over your yourself.
We all grew from his tragedy, there is nothing wrong with seeing it.
If you dont like, TURN AWAY.
The internet is not a broadcaster, you have to CHOOSE to see stuff.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240252</id>
	<title>I guess respect for the dead doesn't count as much</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266855660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm going to take a neutral stance and neither agree or disagree with what the IOC did.</p><p>However, IMO, the blogger I think should be ashamed of himself- this video should be buried and forgotten. Not because of IOC coverups. Not because the IOC says one thing and the video another. That's not for us to decide- that's what the legal system can assess. But because it's simple humane respect for the dead.</p><p>Someone died on that track. Yes, Died. And yet the one thing everyone seems to want to do, is to save and replay the last few (and worst) moments of the poor guy's life over, and over again, without a single thought on how others, particularly is family and friends, might think about it.</p><p>Remember the accident. Investigate how it happened. Scorn the IOC, if you think they didn't take the appropriate safety steps.  but for god's sake- leave the poor guy alone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to take a neutral stance and neither agree or disagree with what the IOC did.However , IMO , the blogger I think should be ashamed of himself- this video should be buried and forgotten .
Not because of IOC coverups .
Not because the IOC says one thing and the video another .
That 's not for us to decide- that 's what the legal system can assess .
But because it 's simple humane respect for the dead.Someone died on that track .
Yes , Died .
And yet the one thing everyone seems to want to do , is to save and replay the last few ( and worst ) moments of the poor guy 's life over , and over again , without a single thought on how others , particularly is family and friends , might think about it.Remember the accident .
Investigate how it happened .
Scorn the IOC , if you think they did n't take the appropriate safety steps .
but for god 's sake- leave the poor guy alone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to take a neutral stance and neither agree or disagree with what the IOC did.However, IMO, the blogger I think should be ashamed of himself- this video should be buried and forgotten.
Not because of IOC coverups.
Not because the IOC says one thing and the video another.
That's not for us to decide- that's what the legal system can assess.
But because it's simple humane respect for the dead.Someone died on that track.
Yes, Died.
And yet the one thing everyone seems to want to do, is to save and replay the last few (and worst) moments of the poor guy's life over, and over again, without a single thought on how others, particularly is family and friends, might think about it.Remember the accident.
Investigate how it happened.
Scorn the IOC, if you think they didn't take the appropriate safety steps.
but for god's sake- leave the poor guy alone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31243476</id>
	<title>Re:maybe legal but...</title>
	<author>realsilly</author>
	<datestamp>1266934740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet you watched the video of the woman in Iran who was shot during the protests?  Did you see it on YouTube, or watch it on the News?  Did you ever see a holocaust documentary?  Those are all about innocent people dying?  I bet you didn't even take the time to read the blog.  You probably have no freaking clue if it pays homage or not.  Yet you feel morally justified to tell everyone else to grow up?  Pot meet kettle...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet you watched the video of the woman in Iran who was shot during the protests ?
Did you see it on YouTube , or watch it on the News ?
Did you ever see a holocaust documentary ?
Those are all about innocent people dying ?
I bet you did n't even take the time to read the blog .
You probably have no freaking clue if it pays homage or not .
Yet you feel morally justified to tell everyone else to grow up ?
Pot meet kettle.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet you watched the video of the woman in Iran who was shot during the protests?
Did you see it on YouTube, or watch it on the News?
Did you ever see a holocaust documentary?
Those are all about innocent people dying?
I bet you didn't even take the time to read the blog.
You probably have no freaking clue if it pays homage or not.
Yet you feel morally justified to tell everyone else to grow up?
Pot meet kettle...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239064</id>
	<title>Re:Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>sakdoctor</author>
	<datestamp>1266847260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Remember, if you're a copyright holder, you'd better be prepared to suck it down. The internet is a global network, and the law varies all over the world.</p><p>Fixed it for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Remember , if you 're a copyright holder , you 'd better be prepared to suck it down .
The internet is a global network , and the law varies all over the world.Fixed it for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Remember, if you're a copyright holder, you'd better be prepared to suck it down.
The internet is a global network, and the law varies all over the world.Fixed it for you.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238982</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239856</id>
	<title>I think I will puke.</title>
	<author>Daevad</author>
	<datestamp>1266852420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The notion that the IOC owns the copyright to all images from the games is just plain wrong.  Every video and every photo taken by every visitor to the games?  I feel like power puking all over the faces of the IOC board.</p><p>And if the games cannot be made financially viable without all the network TV money, super copyright and bizarre broadcasting, then maybe they shouldn't be held at all.  I for one would not miss them one bit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The notion that the IOC owns the copyright to all images from the games is just plain wrong .
Every video and every photo taken by every visitor to the games ?
I feel like power puking all over the faces of the IOC board.And if the games can not be made financially viable without all the network TV money , super copyright and bizarre broadcasting , then maybe they should n't be held at all .
I for one would not miss them one bit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The notion that the IOC owns the copyright to all images from the games is just plain wrong.
Every video and every photo taken by every visitor to the games?
I feel like power puking all over the faces of the IOC board.And if the games cannot be made financially viable without all the network TV money, super copyright and bizarre broadcasting, then maybe they shouldn't be held at all.
I for one would not miss them one bit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240548</id>
	<title>Re:IOC CYA</title>
	<author>LordKronos</author>
	<datestamp>1266858240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's the Olympic version of "security theater" that we get at the airport. It doesn't accomplish anything but shut up the people who are saying "aren't you going to do something about it?"</p><p>Wrapping the posts in padding? That better be some good fucking padding if it's going to save a guy traveling 90MPH colliding with a solid object. I mean, come on....automobiles have airbags and a 4+ foot crumple zone at the front to decelerate the occupants, but even then they're pretty damn fatal in a 90MPH collision.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's the Olympic version of " security theater " that we get at the airport .
It does n't accomplish anything but shut up the people who are saying " are n't you going to do something about it ?
" Wrapping the posts in padding ?
That better be some good fucking padding if it 's going to save a guy traveling 90MPH colliding with a solid object .
I mean , come on....automobiles have airbags and a 4 + foot crumple zone at the front to decelerate the occupants , but even then they 're pretty damn fatal in a 90MPH collision .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's the Olympic version of "security theater" that we get at the airport.
It doesn't accomplish anything but shut up the people who are saying "aren't you going to do something about it?
"Wrapping the posts in padding?
That better be some good fucking padding if it's going to save a guy traveling 90MPH colliding with a solid object.
I mean, come on....automobiles have airbags and a 4+ foot crumple zone at the front to decelerate the occupants, but even then they're pretty damn fatal in a 90MPH collision.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238982</id>
	<title>Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1266846960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption, he should have also put in a block (which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada. He'd have no liability there, but he's breaking copyright law in the USA because he's not NBC, and every other territory where there's an official broadcaster. Remember, if you're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world, you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption , he should have also put in a block ( which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB ) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada .
He 'd have no liability there , but he 's breaking copyright law in the USA because he 's not NBC , and every other territory where there 's an official broadcaster .
Remember , if you 're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world , you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption, he should have also put in a block (which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada.
He'd have no liability there, but he's breaking copyright law in the USA because he's not NBC, and every other territory where there's an official broadcaster.
Remember, if you're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world, you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239040</id>
	<title>Canadian Copyright Law</title>
	<author>arthurpaliden</author>
	<datestamp>1266847140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
Isn't it just great.
</p><p>
Not only do we get to make copies of our own stuff, even if it means bypassing DRM, but we get fair use too.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is n't it just great .
Not only do we get to make copies of our own stuff , even if it means bypassing DRM , but we get fair use too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
Isn't it just great.
Not only do we get to make copies of our own stuff, even if it means bypassing DRM, but we get fair use too.
</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31255938</id>
	<title>The IOC = Bunch of Cash Cow Cretins</title>
	<author>dogzdik</author>
	<datestamp>1266950640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hmmmmmmm all the graft and corruption of this committee and the kickbacks and all just to host "The Olympics" in your city......<p>-</p><p>

And the corporate cash grabs and the taking of bribes by the members of this committee with the consumerist angle of it all?</p><p>

I remember how the chairman of the IOC kicked some kid out of lighting the torch in Greece, so his own kid could do it.</p><p>

Sycophantic prick.</p><p>-</p><p>

The IOC is looking more and more like christmas with a fat guy in a red suit standing on every street corner - telling us to buy, buy, buy - to "celebrate" the spirit of christmas.</p><p>

With their copyright nazi-ism - Whats next?</p><p>

Prohibiting groups of 5 people from hanging thir bare arses out of the bus windows, because it copyright infringes the IOC's 5 rings.</p><p>-</p><p>

As far as that guy dying when he flipped out of the chute into the steel posts, I saw it, downloaded it and saved it. Sent it to some friends. Quite sad. </p><p>-</p><p>

But I am a bit sick of the insanely sanitised news that is largely identical on all chanels in Australia; and most of it is "We are the 53rd state of the USA content, and it really matters if Obama makes a comment about the snow in Washington.</p><p>-</p><p>

So it was HEALTHY to see "real news" and that the guy had a quick clean death - so.</p><p>-</p><p>

In respect to the arseholes in the IOC bullying people:</p><p>

Get Even. </p><p>
Switch Off. </p><p>
Don't Buy. </p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmmmmmm all the graft and corruption of this committee and the kickbacks and all just to host " The Olympics " in your city......- And the corporate cash grabs and the taking of bribes by the members of this committee with the consumerist angle of it all ?
I remember how the chairman of the IOC kicked some kid out of lighting the torch in Greece , so his own kid could do it .
Sycophantic prick.- The IOC is looking more and more like christmas with a fat guy in a red suit standing on every street corner - telling us to buy , buy , buy - to " celebrate " the spirit of christmas .
With their copyright nazi-ism - Whats next ?
Prohibiting groups of 5 people from hanging thir bare arses out of the bus windows , because it copyright infringes the IOC 's 5 rings.- As far as that guy dying when he flipped out of the chute into the steel posts , I saw it , downloaded it and saved it .
Sent it to some friends .
Quite sad .
- But I am a bit sick of the insanely sanitised news that is largely identical on all chanels in Australia ; and most of it is " We are the 53rd state of the USA content , and it really matters if Obama makes a comment about the snow in Washington.- So it was HEALTHY to see " real news " and that the guy had a quick clean death - so.- In respect to the arseholes in the IOC bullying people : Get Even .
Switch Off .
Do n't Buy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmmmmmm all the graft and corruption of this committee and the kickbacks and all just to host "The Olympics" in your city......-

And the corporate cash grabs and the taking of bribes by the members of this committee with the consumerist angle of it all?
I remember how the chairman of the IOC kicked some kid out of lighting the torch in Greece, so his own kid could do it.
Sycophantic prick.-

The IOC is looking more and more like christmas with a fat guy in a red suit standing on every street corner - telling us to buy, buy, buy - to "celebrate" the spirit of christmas.
With their copyright nazi-ism - Whats next?
Prohibiting groups of 5 people from hanging thir bare arses out of the bus windows, because it copyright infringes the IOC's 5 rings.-

As far as that guy dying when he flipped out of the chute into the steel posts, I saw it, downloaded it and saved it.
Sent it to some friends.
Quite sad.
-

But I am a bit sick of the insanely sanitised news that is largely identical on all chanels in Australia; and most of it is "We are the 53rd state of the USA content, and it really matters if Obama makes a comment about the snow in Washington.-

So it was HEALTHY to see "real news" and that the guy had a quick clean death - so.-

In respect to the arseholes in the IOC bullying people:

Get Even.
Switch Off.
Don't Buy. </sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240696</id>
	<title>They do this but stand by while usa &amp; can nbc</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1266859680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They do this but stand by while usa vs can nbc joke go on why was that on MSNBC THAT FEW get in HD while THEY Could on put it on USA HD, CNBC HD or NBC HD?</p><p>Direct tv does not have MSNBC HD, Comcast Chicago city of and Chicago land does not have it, rcn Chicago does not have it, wow cable does not have. IF you wanted it ad fee then put it on USA HD as that is like 100\% HD on all systems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They do this but stand by while usa vs can nbc joke go on why was that on MSNBC THAT FEW get in HD while THEY Could on put it on USA HD , CNBC HD or NBC HD ? Direct tv does not have MSNBC HD , Comcast Chicago city of and Chicago land does not have it , rcn Chicago does not have it , wow cable does not have .
IF you wanted it ad fee then put it on USA HD as that is like 100 \ % HD on all systems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They do this but stand by while usa vs can nbc joke go on why was that on MSNBC THAT FEW get in HD while THEY Could on put it on USA HD, CNBC HD or NBC HD?Direct tv does not have MSNBC HD, Comcast Chicago city of and Chicago land does not have it, rcn Chicago does not have it, wow cable does not have.
IF you wanted it ad fee then put it on USA HD as that is like 100\% HD on all systems.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31242892</id>
	<title>Missing tag for the story</title>
	<author>piotru</author>
	<datestamp>1266929460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I may be lacking the English word fitting IOC's handling of the matter.<br>A person has died.<br>What kind of ruthlessness was necessary to assert rights over the video of the tragic accident?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I may be lacking the English word fitting IOC 's handling of the matter.A person has died.What kind of ruthlessness was necessary to assert rights over the video of the tragic accident ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I may be lacking the English word fitting IOC's handling of the matter.A person has died.What kind of ruthlessness was necessary to assert rights over the video of the tragic accident?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31279728</id>
	<title>IOC demands blogger retract video re luger death</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1267102680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Although continuing to show the video is in bad taste, the IOC is also in bad taste.  My response to them is F.Y.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Although continuing to show the video is in bad taste , the IOC is also in bad taste .
My response to them is F.Y .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Although continuing to show the video is in bad taste, the IOC is also in bad taste.
My response to them is F.Y.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239230</id>
	<title>Hopefully it's a matter of taste</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266848340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>If many sites have taken the video down I hope that is a matter of good taste rather than bullying by the IOC. What public interest is there in seeing someone die a painful death? We must remember that just because members of the public are interested, that doesn't make release or dissemination "in the public interest".</htmltext>
<tokenext>If many sites have taken the video down I hope that is a matter of good taste rather than bullying by the IOC .
What public interest is there in seeing someone die a painful death ?
We must remember that just because members of the public are interested , that does n't make release or dissemination " in the public interest " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If many sites have taken the video down I hope that is a matter of good taste rather than bullying by the IOC.
What public interest is there in seeing someone die a painful death?
We must remember that just because members of the public are interested, that doesn't make release or dissemination "in the public interest".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240178</id>
	<title>Re:IOC CYA</title>
	<author>pavon</author>
	<datestamp>1266855060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sorry, but you don't get to say, "The course is fine," and then also get to change it immediately after a crash.</p></div><p>This isn't exactly the same, but we've been getting this line at work and frankly I think it is bunk. Anytime we make an improvement to our process or design, the customer's Quality Assurance folks come and act as though that proves that we were doing things poorly to begin with, and that all our prior product needs to be recertified, even though our testing and performance already exceeds customer requirements. The thing is that nothing is ever perfect. There is always room for improvement, and just because something does improve doesn't mean that it was inadequate to begin with. On the otherhand sometimes the customer has come with complaints, and we have made improvements to mollify them, even though we thought the changes were completely unnecessary. That doesn't mean that they were right, it just means that we don't get to base all our decisions on technical reasons.</p><p>The fact that someone <b>died</b>, and the fact that many people have already noticed that this track is not as safe as others, is good evidence that the track wasn't adequate. But the fact that they chose to improve it for whatever reason is not.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm sorry , but you do n't get to say , " The course is fine , " and then also get to change it immediately after a crash.This is n't exactly the same , but we 've been getting this line at work and frankly I think it is bunk .
Anytime we make an improvement to our process or design , the customer 's Quality Assurance folks come and act as though that proves that we were doing things poorly to begin with , and that all our prior product needs to be recertified , even though our testing and performance already exceeds customer requirements .
The thing is that nothing is ever perfect .
There is always room for improvement , and just because something does improve does n't mean that it was inadequate to begin with .
On the otherhand sometimes the customer has come with complaints , and we have made improvements to mollify them , even though we thought the changes were completely unnecessary .
That does n't mean that they were right , it just means that we do n't get to base all our decisions on technical reasons.The fact that someone died , and the fact that many people have already noticed that this track is not as safe as others , is good evidence that the track was n't adequate .
But the fact that they chose to improve it for whatever reason is not .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm sorry, but you don't get to say, "The course is fine," and then also get to change it immediately after a crash.This isn't exactly the same, but we've been getting this line at work and frankly I think it is bunk.
Anytime we make an improvement to our process or design, the customer's Quality Assurance folks come and act as though that proves that we were doing things poorly to begin with, and that all our prior product needs to be recertified, even though our testing and performance already exceeds customer requirements.
The thing is that nothing is ever perfect.
There is always room for improvement, and just because something does improve doesn't mean that it was inadequate to begin with.
On the otherhand sometimes the customer has come with complaints, and we have made improvements to mollify them, even though we thought the changes were completely unnecessary.
That doesn't mean that they were right, it just means that we don't get to base all our decisions on technical reasons.The fact that someone died, and the fact that many people have already noticed that this track is not as safe as others, is good evidence that the track wasn't adequate.
But the fact that they chose to improve it for whatever reason is not.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239680</id>
	<title>Re:Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>fishthegeek</author>
	<datestamp>1266851220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Being Canadian he is under no obligation to enforce or even care about the laws in the U.S. or OZ for that matter.  While I find it a little distasteful it's his right and if the blogger wants to put it up there then more power to him.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Being Canadian he is under no obligation to enforce or even care about the laws in the U.S. or OZ for that matter .
While I find it a little distasteful it 's his right and if the blogger wants to put it up there then more power to him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Being Canadian he is under no obligation to enforce or even care about the laws in the U.S. or OZ for that matter.
While I find it a little distasteful it's his right and if the blogger wants to put it up there then more power to him.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239608</id>
	<title>maybe legal but...</title>
	<author>nadaou</author>
	<datestamp>1266850620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is arguably legal spread to this video / snuff films, but it is in truly terrible taste. My guess is that the IOC is more concerned with protecting the traumatized family and friends of the victim, and due to the disproportionate way laws are structured copyright is the best legal tool they have to throw at it. That is not to say that they are not total jerks and hyper-protective of their monopoly on Olympic images, but in this case you must give the benefit of the doubt that copyright is of secondary concern to stopping genuine cruelty.</p><p>"just because you can, doesn't mean you should"<br>(aka "grow up")</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is arguably legal spread to this video / snuff films , but it is in truly terrible taste .
My guess is that the IOC is more concerned with protecting the traumatized family and friends of the victim , and due to the disproportionate way laws are structured copyright is the best legal tool they have to throw at it .
That is not to say that they are not total jerks and hyper-protective of their monopoly on Olympic images , but in this case you must give the benefit of the doubt that copyright is of secondary concern to stopping genuine cruelty .
" just because you can , does n't mean you should " ( aka " grow up " )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is arguably legal spread to this video / snuff films, but it is in truly terrible taste.
My guess is that the IOC is more concerned with protecting the traumatized family and friends of the victim, and due to the disproportionate way laws are structured copyright is the best legal tool they have to throw at it.
That is not to say that they are not total jerks and hyper-protective of their monopoly on Olympic images, but in this case you must give the benefit of the doubt that copyright is of secondary concern to stopping genuine cruelty.
"just because you can, doesn't mean you should"(aka "grow up")</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238872</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1266846300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, and the "Olympic Movement" is given special rights under US Laws that give their trademarks such as the five-ring-design even stronger protection than a typical trademark. Basically, they're claiming they need NBCU/CBC/FoxTel/your-local-Olympic-broadcaster's money to put on the games, and therefore they need super-copyright. They have it now, it'll take an act of Congress to get rid of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , and the " Olympic Movement " is given special rights under US Laws that give their trademarks such as the five-ring-design even stronger protection than a typical trademark .
Basically , they 're claiming they need NBCU/CBC/FoxTel/your-local-Olympic-broadcaster 's money to put on the games , and therefore they need super-copyright .
They have it now , it 'll take an act of Congress to get rid of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, and the "Olympic Movement" is given special rights under US Laws that give their trademarks such as the five-ring-design even stronger protection than a typical trademark.
Basically, they're claiming they need NBCU/CBC/FoxTel/your-local-Olympic-broadcaster's money to put on the games, and therefore they need super-copyright.
They have it now, it'll take an act of Congress to get rid of it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240018</id>
	<title>Re:Nothing new</title>
	<author>elvesrus</author>
	<datestamp>1266853440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not just their design, but ANY 5 interlocking rings: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic\_symbols#Intellectual\_property" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic\_symbols#Intellectual\_property</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Almost makes you wonder when they're going to sue the state of Washington or the U.S. National Park Service. <a href="http://www.nps.gov/olym/index.htm" title="nps.gov" rel="nofollow">http://www.nps.gov/olym/index.htm</a> [nps.gov]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not just their design , but ANY 5 interlocking rings : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic \ _symbols # Intellectual \ _property [ wikipedia.org ] Almost makes you wonder when they 're going to sue the state of Washington or the U.S. National Park Service .
http : //www.nps.gov/olym/index.htm [ nps.gov ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not just their design, but ANY 5 interlocking rings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic\_symbols#Intellectual\_property [wikipedia.org]Almost makes you wonder when they're going to sue the state of Washington or the U.S. National Park Service.
http://www.nps.gov/olym/index.htm [nps.gov]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238918</id>
	<title>Link to video</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266846540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://lugecrash.on.nimp.org/" title="nimp.org" rel="nofollow">http://lugecrash.on.nimp.org/</a> [nimp.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //lugecrash.on.nimp.org/ [ nimp.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://lugecrash.on.nimp.org/ [nimp.org]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240358</id>
	<title>Re:The IOC is above THE LAW!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266856500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar, but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.</p></div><p>from <a href="http://www.ctvolympics.ca/ski-jumping/news/newsid=12739.html" title="ctvolympics.ca" rel="nofollow">CTV.</a> [ctvolympics.ca] </p><p>That's one reason I'm not watching them.</p></div><p>Well that's a stupid fucking reason. They decided to keep them off the 2010 games because they're getting rid of the event, but the men's version is Grandfathered in so they can't dump it yet. That's not fucking discrimination. Discrimination is allowing the women to compete against other women, if you really want a 100\% non-discriminating Olympics then suck it up and try going head-to-head with the men &amp; see where that gets ya.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee 's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar , but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.from CTV .
[ ctvolympics.ca ] That 's one reason I 'm not watching them.Well that 's a stupid fucking reason .
They decided to keep them off the 2010 games because they 're getting rid of the event , but the men 's version is Grandfathered in so they ca n't dump it yet .
That 's not fucking discrimination .
Discrimination is allowing the women to compete against other women , if you really want a 100 \ % non-discriminating Olympics then suck it up and try going head-to-head with the men &amp; see where that gets ya .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar, but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.from CTV.
[ctvolympics.ca] That's one reason I'm not watching them.Well that's a stupid fucking reason.
They decided to keep them off the 2010 games because they're getting rid of the event, but the men's version is Grandfathered in so they can't dump it yet.
That's not fucking discrimination.
Discrimination is allowing the women to compete against other women, if you really want a 100\% non-discriminating Olympics then suck it up and try going head-to-head with the men &amp; see where that gets ya.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240694</id>
	<title>Re:maybe legal but...</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1266859680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My guess is that the IOC is bring the typical copyright nazis they always are, and that their behavior over the past 20 years does not earn them the benefit of the doubt, or anything else for that matter.  The Olympics no longer holds any interest for me, it's just another professional sporting event where the players with the most money typically win, and the cities that pay off the IOC members get rewarded.  Thank Dog I have another 150 channels that aren't NBC...</htmltext>
<tokenext>My guess is that the IOC is bring the typical copyright nazis they always are , and that their behavior over the past 20 years does not earn them the benefit of the doubt , or anything else for that matter .
The Olympics no longer holds any interest for me , it 's just another professional sporting event where the players with the most money typically win , and the cities that pay off the IOC members get rewarded .
Thank Dog I have another 150 channels that are n't NBC.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My guess is that the IOC is bring the typical copyright nazis they always are, and that their behavior over the past 20 years does not earn them the benefit of the doubt, or anything else for that matter.
The Olympics no longer holds any interest for me, it's just another professional sporting event where the players with the most money typically win, and the cities that pay off the IOC members get rewarded.
Thank Dog I have another 150 channels that aren't NBC...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239296</id>
	<title>Re:Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266848760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption, he should have also put in a block (which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada. He'd have no liability there, but he's breaking copyright law in the USA because he's not NBC, and every other territory where there's an official broadcaster. Remember, if you're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world, you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.</p></div><p>Under your logic, you could be tried and punished for any speech offensive to other countries, say Iran or North Korea.  You better hurry and make sure everything you have ever posted online is blocked from everywhere that it might be illegal!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption , he should have also put in a block ( which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB ) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada .
He 'd have no liability there , but he 's breaking copyright law in the USA because he 's not NBC , and every other territory where there 's an official broadcaster .
Remember , if you 're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world , you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.Under your logic , you could be tried and punished for any speech offensive to other countries , say Iran or North Korea .
You better hurry and make sure everything you have ever posted online is blocked from everywhere that it might be illegal !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If this guy wanted to use the Canadian law exemption, he should have also put in a block (which is available to the big guys like the NBC and MLB) that made sure his stream was only available in Canada.
He'd have no liability there, but he's breaking copyright law in the USA because he's not NBC, and every other territory where there's an official broadcaster.
Remember, if you're positing on the web and not targeting a specific part of the world, you better be ready to comply with laws all over the world.Under your logic, you could be tried and punished for any speech offensive to other countries, say Iran or North Korea.
You better hurry and make sure everything you have ever posted online is blocked from everywhere that it might be illegal!
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239554</id>
	<title>IOC CYA</title>
	<author>coaxial</author>
	<datestamp>1266850260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The IOC hours after the deadly crash immediately said (before an legitimate investigation could even begin, let alone finish) that it was the luger's fault, and that there was nothing wrong with the course, even though there were numerous complaints about the course prior to the crash.  So even though the IOC said there was nothing wrong with the course, and that it was luger-error, they immediately wrapped the posts with pads, built taller walls throughout the the course, and then started the lugers lower down on the course, in order to slow them down.</p><p>I'm sorry, but you don't get to say, "The course is fine," and then also get to change it immediately after a crash.</p><p>I love to watch the Olympic athletes compete, but the IOC has been a bunch of corrupt bastards for decades.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The IOC hours after the deadly crash immediately said ( before an legitimate investigation could even begin , let alone finish ) that it was the luger 's fault , and that there was nothing wrong with the course , even though there were numerous complaints about the course prior to the crash .
So even though the IOC said there was nothing wrong with the course , and that it was luger-error , they immediately wrapped the posts with pads , built taller walls throughout the the course , and then started the lugers lower down on the course , in order to slow them down.I 'm sorry , but you do n't get to say , " The course is fine , " and then also get to change it immediately after a crash.I love to watch the Olympic athletes compete , but the IOC has been a bunch of corrupt bastards for decades .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The IOC hours after the deadly crash immediately said (before an legitimate investigation could even begin, let alone finish) that it was the luger's fault, and that there was nothing wrong with the course, even though there were numerous complaints about the course prior to the crash.
So even though the IOC said there was nothing wrong with the course, and that it was luger-error, they immediately wrapped the posts with pads, built taller walls throughout the the course, and then started the lugers lower down on the course, in order to slow them down.I'm sorry, but you don't get to say, "The course is fine," and then also get to change it immediately after a crash.I love to watch the Olympic athletes compete, but the IOC has been a bunch of corrupt bastards for decades.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240938</id>
	<title>Re:Locality blocks...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266862380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>he's breaking copyright law in the USA because he's not NBC</p></div>
</blockquote><p>In the US he would have a constitutional fair use right to post the video as a critical and relevant part of a news report.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>he 's breaking copyright law in the USA because he 's not NBC In the US he would have a constitutional fair use right to post the video as a critical and relevant part of a news report .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>he's breaking copyright law in the USA because he's not NBC
In the US he would have a constitutional fair use right to post the video as a critical and relevant part of a news report.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31242574</id>
	<title>Re:my response to IOC</title>
	<author>MartinSchou</author>
	<datestamp>1266925440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The fact that the sun came up three weeks ago isn't news anymore, just like the fact that someone rammed themselves into a pole on the luge course two weeks ago isn't. The "news" value of the video is gone; it is solely the gruesome nature that remains as a draw.</p><blockquote><div><p>Excellent. We can now burn all copies of the moon landings, the JFK assassination, Ronald Regan being shot, the Berlin Wall being torn down, the Tiananmen Square protests, the Tehran protests, the September 11th attacks, the July 7th bombings<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p>None of them are news any more.</p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The fact that the sun came up three weeks ago is n't news anymore , just like the fact that someone rammed themselves into a pole on the luge course two weeks ago is n't .
The " news " value of the video is gone ; it is solely the gruesome nature that remains as a draw.Excellent .
We can now burn all copies of the moon landings , the JFK assassination , Ronald Regan being shot , the Berlin Wall being torn down , the Tiananmen Square protests , the Tehran protests , the September 11th attacks , the July 7th bombings ...None of them are news any more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The fact that the sun came up three weeks ago isn't news anymore, just like the fact that someone rammed themselves into a pole on the luge course two weeks ago isn't.
The "news" value of the video is gone; it is solely the gruesome nature that remains as a draw.Excellent.
We can now burn all copies of the moon landings, the JFK assassination, Ronald Regan being shot, the Berlin Wall being torn down, the Tiananmen Square protests, the Tehran protests, the September 11th attacks, the July 7th bombings ...None of them are news any more.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31240016</id>
	<title>Re:my response to IOC</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266853440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why do stupid arguments like this come up every time copyright is mentioned around here? It's fucking stupid and it has no logical place here. It sounds like something a 4 year old would say.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why do stupid arguments like this come up every time copyright is mentioned around here ?
It 's fucking stupid and it has no logical place here .
It sounds like something a 4 year old would say .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why do stupid arguments like this come up every time copyright is mentioned around here?
It's fucking stupid and it has no logical place here.
It sounds like something a 4 year old would say.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31245388</id>
	<title>IOC=MONEY MONEY</title>
	<author>zcold</author>
	<datestamp>1266945480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Go Canada! Yes, sad news, but news is news, and I thank god I live in a place where news can be shared without being silenced. Besides, the IOC is only after money in any case. I have no respect for them, only the athletes and the spirit of the games. Don't get me started on the bid for coverage. CTV is doing a horrible job at it and I would have much rather seen CBC take care of it.. They've always done such great job work with the games.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Go Canada !
Yes , sad news , but news is news , and I thank god I live in a place where news can be shared without being silenced .
Besides , the IOC is only after money in any case .
I have no respect for them , only the athletes and the spirit of the games .
Do n't get me started on the bid for coverage .
CTV is doing a horrible job at it and I would have much rather seen CBC take care of it.. They 've always done such great job work with the games .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Go Canada!
Yes, sad news, but news is news, and I thank god I live in a place where news can be shared without being silenced.
Besides, the IOC is only after money in any case.
I have no respect for them, only the athletes and the spirit of the games.
Don't get me started on the bid for coverage.
CTV is doing a horrible job at it and I would have much rather seen CBC take care of it.. They've always done such great job work with the games.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31243398</id>
	<title>Re:I guess respect for the dead doesn't count as m</title>
	<author>realsilly</author>
	<datestamp>1266934320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Respect for the dead is very Noble, but don't you think that the information found on videos such as that serve a purpose that help prevent such tragedies later?  I respect death, it is, after all what we will all face at the end of our lives.  This particular individual knew he was on TV, he knew that his sport is dangerous, and I would not be at all surprised if all olympians have to sign waivers granting privledges to video them.  If that would be the case, then that tape should live forever.  Have you ever watch a documentary in which someone died?  How is this any different.  We have videos of war zones, are you ok with that because they are an enemy dying?  Would not that be a double standard?</p><p>Again I respect death, but nor am I afraid of it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Respect for the dead is very Noble , but do n't you think that the information found on videos such as that serve a purpose that help prevent such tragedies later ?
I respect death , it is , after all what we will all face at the end of our lives .
This particular individual knew he was on TV , he knew that his sport is dangerous , and I would not be at all surprised if all olympians have to sign waivers granting privledges to video them .
If that would be the case , then that tape should live forever .
Have you ever watch a documentary in which someone died ?
How is this any different .
We have videos of war zones , are you ok with that because they are an enemy dying ?
Would not that be a double standard ? Again I respect death , but nor am I afraid of it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Respect for the dead is very Noble, but don't you think that the information found on videos such as that serve a purpose that help prevent such tragedies later?
I respect death, it is, after all what we will all face at the end of our lives.
This particular individual knew he was on TV, he knew that his sport is dangerous, and I would not be at all surprised if all olympians have to sign waivers granting privledges to video them.
If that would be the case, then that tape should live forever.
Have you ever watch a documentary in which someone died?
How is this any different.
We have videos of war zones, are you ok with that because they are an enemy dying?
Would not that be a double standard?Again I respect death, but nor am I afraid of it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239994</id>
	<title>Re:Canadian Copyright Law</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266853320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for now...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for now.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for now...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239338</id>
	<title>An anonymous reader writes??</title>
	<author>The nickname 'Ryan'</author>
	<datestamp>1266848940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes "The International Olympic Committee has ordered a blogger to remove a video from his website showing the death of Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili. The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games, and only licensed broadcasters can use them. However, the blogger, Stephen Pate, points to a Canadian law that allows copyrighted images to be used in newsworthy cases."

???An anonymous reader writes???
???An anonymous writer writes???</htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " The International Olympic Committee has ordered a blogger to remove a video from his website showing the death of Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili .
The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games , and only licensed broadcasters can use them .
However , the blogger , Stephen Pate , points to a Canadian law that allows copyrighted images to be used in newsworthy cases .
" ? ?
? An anonymous reader writes ? ? ?
? ? ? An anonymous writer writes ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "The International Olympic Committee has ordered a blogger to remove a video from his website showing the death of Georgian luger Nodar Kumaritashvili.
The IOC asserts that it owns all the rights to all images taken at the games, and only licensed broadcasters can use them.
However, the blogger, Stephen Pate, points to a Canadian law that allows copyrighted images to be used in newsworthy cases.
"

??
?An anonymous reader writes???
???An anonymous writer writes??
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239848</id>
	<title>my response to IOC</title>
	<author>eagl</author>
	<datestamp>1266852360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I plan on copyrighting reporting on the sun, pointing a camera at it, and then charging anyone who ventures outdoors during daylight hours for the privledge of "reporting" on the sun.</p><p>I might go so far as to claim exclusive rights on distribution of the entire visible light spectrum, just to cover all my bases.</p><p>As for the original post, I thought most countries had verbage in their copyright laws that allowed anyone to report "news", no matter where it happened to occur.  Maybe I should start up a disaster relief company and claim exclusive rights to report on anyone who dies while my company is responding to the disaster?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I plan on copyrighting reporting on the sun , pointing a camera at it , and then charging anyone who ventures outdoors during daylight hours for the privledge of " reporting " on the sun.I might go so far as to claim exclusive rights on distribution of the entire visible light spectrum , just to cover all my bases.As for the original post , I thought most countries had verbage in their copyright laws that allowed anyone to report " news " , no matter where it happened to occur .
Maybe I should start up a disaster relief company and claim exclusive rights to report on anyone who dies while my company is responding to the disaster ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I plan on copyrighting reporting on the sun, pointing a camera at it, and then charging anyone who ventures outdoors during daylight hours for the privledge of "reporting" on the sun.I might go so far as to claim exclusive rights on distribution of the entire visible light spectrum, just to cover all my bases.As for the original post, I thought most countries had verbage in their copyright laws that allowed anyone to report "news", no matter where it happened to occur.
Maybe I should start up a disaster relief company and claim exclusive rights to report on anyone who dies while my company is responding to the disaster?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31242446</id>
	<title>Olympic fascism</title>
	<author>dugeen</author>
	<datestamp>1266923880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given the Olympics' long association with both literal fascism (Samaranch) and metaphorical fascism (allowing the Chinese secret police to beat up protestors on the streets of London in 2008, the clearances prior to 2012, the massive surveillance scheme planned for 2012), why does this story surprise anyone?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given the Olympics ' long association with both literal fascism ( Samaranch ) and metaphorical fascism ( allowing the Chinese secret police to beat up protestors on the streets of London in 2008 , the clearances prior to 2012 , the massive surveillance scheme planned for 2012 ) , why does this story surprise anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given the Olympics' long association with both literal fascism (Samaranch) and metaphorical fascism (allowing the Chinese secret police to beat up protestors on the streets of London in 2008, the clearances prior to 2012, the massive surveillance scheme planned for 2012), why does this story surprise anyone?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239110</id>
	<title>Important point</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266847620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The IOC is above Canadian law.  They are allowed to ignore Canadian human rights laws, can force venues to rescind non-smoking regulations, and are able to take over lands, streets and buildings at will.<br> <br>

Anyone who has worked within the VANOC orbit knows that VANOC and the IOC believe that all others must bow down before them.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The IOC is above Canadian law .
They are allowed to ignore Canadian human rights laws , can force venues to rescind non-smoking regulations , and are able to take over lands , streets and buildings at will .
Anyone who has worked within the VANOC orbit knows that VANOC and the IOC believe that all others must bow down before them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The IOC is above Canadian law.
They are allowed to ignore Canadian human rights laws, can force venues to rescind non-smoking regulations, and are able to take over lands, streets and buildings at will.
Anyone who has worked within the VANOC orbit knows that VANOC and the IOC believe that all others must bow down before them.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239914</id>
	<title>Re:IOC CYA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266852780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I love to watch the Olympic athletes compete, but the IOC has been a bunch of corrupt bastards for decades.</p></div><p>I just can't watch the Olympics anymore. The constant stream of awful actions by the IOC just ruin the whole experience. I even imagine I can hear the contempt in the announcers' voices.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love to watch the Olympic athletes compete , but the IOC has been a bunch of corrupt bastards for decades.I just ca n't watch the Olympics anymore .
The constant stream of awful actions by the IOC just ruin the whole experience .
I even imagine I can hear the contempt in the announcers ' voices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love to watch the Olympic athletes compete, but the IOC has been a bunch of corrupt bastards for decades.I just can't watch the Olympics anymore.
The constant stream of awful actions by the IOC just ruin the whole experience.
I even imagine I can hear the contempt in the announcers' voices.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31238900</id>
	<title>The IOC is above THE LAW!</title>
	<author>ipquickly</author>
	<datestamp>1266846480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar, but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.</p></div><p>from <a href="http://www.ctvolympics.ca/ski-jumping/news/newsid=12739.html" title="ctvolympics.ca" rel="nofollow">CTV.</a> [ctvolympics.ca]</p><p>That's one reason I'm not watching them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee 's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar , but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.from CTV .
[ ctvolympics.ca ] That 's one reason I 'm not watching them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Madam Justice Lauri Ann Fenlon ruled that the women ski jumpers were indeed discriminated against by the International Olympic Committee's decision to keep them off the 2010 Olympic calendar, but added that the Switzerland-based IOC was beyond the reach of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.from CTV.
[ctvolympics.ca]That's one reason I'm not watching them.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_22_2317258.31239644</id>
	<title>Re:Hopefully it's a matter of taste</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1266850920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What public interest is there in seeing someone die a painful death?</p></div><p>To determine if the IOC was lying when they said the death was entirely the luger's fault. And in fact, they were; they did nothing whatsoever to protect an athlete who made an error in that spot. They apparently wrapped those poles with pads (among making several other changes) immediately after the accident occurred... well, also after they claimed that it wasn't their fault. The action and the statement are at odds, and this video proves why. It is very much in the public's interest to find out what kind of criminals their government has been consorting with.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What public interest is there in seeing someone die a painful death ? To determine if the IOC was lying when they said the death was entirely the luger 's fault .
And in fact , they were ; they did nothing whatsoever to protect an athlete who made an error in that spot .
They apparently wrapped those poles with pads ( among making several other changes ) immediately after the accident occurred... well , also after they claimed that it was n't their fault .
The action and the statement are at odds , and this video proves why .
It is very much in the public 's interest to find out what kind of criminals their government has been consorting with .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What public interest is there in seeing someone die a painful death?To determine if the IOC was lying when they said the death was entirely the luger's fault.
And in fact, they were; they did nothing whatsoever to protect an athlete who made an error in that spot.
They apparently wrapped those poles with pads (among making several other changes) immediately after the accident occurred... well, also after they claimed that it wasn't their fault.
The action and the statement are at odds, and this video proves why.
It is very much in the public's interest to find out what kind of criminals their government has been consorting with.
	</sentencetext>
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