<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_19_2126221</id>
	<title>What You Get When You Buy a $40 iPhone In a Bar</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266574260000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Barence writes <i>"How good &mdash; or bad &mdash; are fake iPhones? PC Pro blogger Steve Cassidy has a friend who paid &pound;25 ($40) for an 'iPhone' in a bar, and he's got the photos and full lowdown of <a href="http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/02/19/what-you-get-when-you-buy-a-25-iphone-down-the-pub/">what's inside this not-so smartphone</a>. The phone looks convincing enough from the outside, with a genuine-looking backplate, but things start to go wrong when you switch it on. What's a "Java" and "WLAN" App button doing on the screen? And how about that Internet Explorer icon? It's like you're handling an artefact from an alternate history, dropped in via a spacetime wormhole. It has dual SIM handling, too, and came with a bizarre auxiliary battery festooned with warnings about not pressing a button mounted on the front of the top-up device."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Barence writes " How good    or bad    are fake iPhones ?
PC Pro blogger Steve Cassidy has a friend who paid   25 ( $ 40 ) for an 'iPhone ' in a bar , and he 's got the photos and full lowdown of what 's inside this not-so smartphone .
The phone looks convincing enough from the outside , with a genuine-looking backplate , but things start to go wrong when you switch it on .
What 's a " Java " and " WLAN " App button doing on the screen ?
And how about that Internet Explorer icon ?
It 's like you 're handling an artefact from an alternate history , dropped in via a spacetime wormhole .
It has dual SIM handling , too , and came with a bizarre auxiliary battery festooned with warnings about not pressing a button mounted on the front of the top-up device .
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<sentencetext>Barence writes "How good — or bad — are fake iPhones?
PC Pro blogger Steve Cassidy has a friend who paid £25 ($40) for an 'iPhone' in a bar, and he's got the photos and full lowdown of what's inside this not-so smartphone.
The phone looks convincing enough from the outside, with a genuine-looking backplate, but things start to go wrong when you switch it on.
What's a "Java" and "WLAN" App button doing on the screen?
And how about that Internet Explorer icon?
It's like you're handling an artefact from an alternate history, dropped in via a spacetime wormhole.
It has dual SIM handling, too, and came with a bizarre auxiliary battery festooned with warnings about not pressing a button mounted on the front of the top-up device.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208526</id>
	<title>Someone made a comparison for a ditto fake N95</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266698880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x2E1ZL\_7O0</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 1x2E1ZL \ _7O0</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x2E1ZL\_7O0</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207102</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry dude, it's fake</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1266593520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The US may not have "Iphone fakes", but obviously there is a market for $120 or similar phones, without contract. The Iphone fake things sounds more a property of fashion than technicality - people are engulfed by the RDF, and think they look hip if they have an Iphone.</p><p><i>I showed him mine and the way it's supposed to work, with just a light flick of the finger.</i></p><p>So his had a resistive screen - try using your phone with gloves sometime, and see how well that works for you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The US may not have " Iphone fakes " , but obviously there is a market for $ 120 or similar phones , without contract .
The Iphone fake things sounds more a property of fashion than technicality - people are engulfed by the RDF , and think they look hip if they have an Iphone.I showed him mine and the way it 's supposed to work , with just a light flick of the finger.So his had a resistive screen - try using your phone with gloves sometime , and see how well that works for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The US may not have "Iphone fakes", but obviously there is a market for $120 or similar phones, without contract.
The Iphone fake things sounds more a property of fashion than technicality - people are engulfed by the RDF, and think they look hip if they have an Iphone.I showed him mine and the way it's supposed to work, with just a light flick of the finger.So his had a resistive screen - try using your phone with gloves sometime, and see how well that works for you.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206594</id>
	<title>Re:High Standards</title>
	<author>Pyrus.mg</author>
	<datestamp>1266587580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A Flash game?  No wonder Apple hasn't got an app for that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A Flash game ?
No wonder Apple has n't got an app for that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Flash game?
No wonder Apple hasn't got an app for that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206450</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205240</id>
	<title>so in other words</title>
	<author>commodoresloat</author>
	<datestamp>1266578820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This thing is far more useful than an iPhone!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This thing is far more useful than an iPhone !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This thing is far more useful than an iPhone!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206210</id>
	<title>Re:Botnet</title>
	<author>khallow</author>
	<datestamp>1266584280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I got to agree. My bet is that they're grabbing credit card numbers and bank information.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I got to agree .
My bet is that they 're grabbing credit card numbers and bank information .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I got to agree.
My bet is that they're grabbing credit card numbers and bank information.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207346</id>
	<title>Re:Coming to a Home Depot lot near you...</title>
	<author>mike260</author>
	<datestamp>1266595800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The guy got a functioning touchscreen smartphonefor &pound;25. Counterfeit or not, it's hard to call that a ripoff IMHO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The guy got a functioning touchscreen smartphonefor   25 .
Counterfeit or not , it 's hard to call that a ripoff IMHO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The guy got a functioning touchscreen smartphonefor £25.
Counterfeit or not, it's hard to call that a ripoff IMHO.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206370</id>
	<title>Re:News Flash:</title>
	<author>Deadguy2322</author>
	<datestamp>1266585780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Maybe it is a stolen knock-off!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Maybe it is a stolen knock-off !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Maybe it is a stolen knock-off!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205602</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31212230</id>
	<title>Re:Botnet</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266698460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Most likely the knock-off was so cheap because it was nicked from somewhere.  I'd expect something like that to be at least twice the price, and I don't think it has enough value as a botnet member to subsidise the difference.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Most likely the knock-off was so cheap because it was nicked from somewhere .
I 'd expect something like that to be at least twice the price , and I do n't think it has enough value as a botnet member to subsidise the difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most likely the knock-off was so cheap because it was nicked from somewhere.
I'd expect something like that to be at least twice the price, and I don't think it has enough value as a botnet member to subsidise the difference.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205208</id>
	<title>Better value per dollar</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266578640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's even better than the iPhone:<br>- two SIMs<br>- user-changeable battery<br>- unlocked</p><p>but here's my favorite:<br>- "drag and drop files through USB port of computer (No Software Required)"</p><p>No mandatory iTunes. Eat that, Steve!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's even better than the iPhone : - two SIMs- user-changeable battery- unlockedbut here 's my favorite : - " drag and drop files through USB port of computer ( No Software Required ) " No mandatory iTunes .
Eat that , Steve !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's even better than the iPhone:- two SIMs- user-changeable battery- unlockedbut here's my favorite:- "drag and drop files through USB port of computer (No Software Required)"No mandatory iTunes.
Eat that, Steve!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31210108</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>u38cg</author>
	<datestamp>1266682560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Try <a href="about:robots" title="about">this (firefox only, sorry).</a> [about]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Try this ( firefox only , sorry ) .
[ about ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Try this (firefox only, sorry).
[about]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205740</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205148</id>
	<title>Awesome review</title>
	<author>DavidR1991</author>
	<datestamp>1266578400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Ashens <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2tVE7qRLwk" title="youtube.com">did a review of one of these a while ago</a> [youtube.com] (the menu does not look identical, but the resolution of the screen + font seems similar).</p><p>Sharing purely because I found it fairly amusing (especially the call dropping feature...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ashens did a review of one of these a while ago [ youtube.com ] ( the menu does not look identical , but the resolution of the screen + font seems similar ) .Sharing purely because I found it fairly amusing ( especially the call dropping feature... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ashens did a review of one of these a while ago [youtube.com] (the menu does not look identical, but the resolution of the screen + font seems similar).Sharing purely because I found it fairly amusing (especially the call dropping feature...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206164</id>
	<title>Re:High Standards</title>
	<author>sdpuppy</author>
	<datestamp>1266584040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Now all they have to do is put in tactile feedback, and you've got an iPhone killer !</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now all they have to do is put in tactile feedback , and you 've got an iPhone killer !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now all they have to do is put in tactile feedback, and you've got an iPhone killer !</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205400</id>
	<title>WARNING I have a friend</title>
	<author>TheModelEskimo</author>
	<datestamp>1266579660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of my colleagues in China recently bought one of these for his college-age daughter, as a sort of joke. OK, so in the first 10 minutes of owning it he finds this app with the lady...not so good. But still maybe worth gifting to SOMEBODY as a joke. So he puts it in his pants pocket, gets back to his hotel, and falls asleep watching TV.<br> <br>Next day he comes into work with a strange rash on his neck. He looks surprised, says something about it being the same undershirt he wore yesterday. Somebody says, "hey Len take your shirt off," so he does, and LO AND BEHOLD the rash is like 50x worse down by his belt. He takes his trousers off, peeks beneath his boxers and sort of yelps.<br> <br>There the "iphone" he bought had partially merged into his leg -- he now has a touch screen in his lower hip. Freaking disgusting.<br> <br> <br>Alright, so I made that whole story up. But man, if Chinese technology isn't so exciting and freaking scary at the same time!!!! Let that be a lesson to you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my colleagues in China recently bought one of these for his college-age daughter , as a sort of joke .
OK , so in the first 10 minutes of owning it he finds this app with the lady...not so good .
But still maybe worth gifting to SOMEBODY as a joke .
So he puts it in his pants pocket , gets back to his hotel , and falls asleep watching TV .
Next day he comes into work with a strange rash on his neck .
He looks surprised , says something about it being the same undershirt he wore yesterday .
Somebody says , " hey Len take your shirt off , " so he does , and LO AND BEHOLD the rash is like 50x worse down by his belt .
He takes his trousers off , peeks beneath his boxers and sort of yelps .
There the " iphone " he bought had partially merged into his leg -- he now has a touch screen in his lower hip .
Freaking disgusting .
Alright , so I made that whole story up .
But man , if Chinese technology is n't so exciting and freaking scary at the same time ! ! ! !
Let that be a lesson to you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my colleagues in China recently bought one of these for his college-age daughter, as a sort of joke.
OK, so in the first 10 minutes of owning it he finds this app with the lady...not so good.
But still maybe worth gifting to SOMEBODY as a joke.
So he puts it in his pants pocket, gets back to his hotel, and falls asleep watching TV.
Next day he comes into work with a strange rash on his neck.
He looks surprised, says something about it being the same undershirt he wore yesterday.
Somebody says, "hey Len take your shirt off," so he does, and LO AND BEHOLD the rash is like 50x worse down by his belt.
He takes his trousers off, peeks beneath his boxers and sort of yelps.
There the "iphone" he bought had partially merged into his leg -- he now has a touch screen in his lower hip.
Freaking disgusting.
Alright, so I made that whole story up.
But man, if Chinese technology isn't so exciting and freaking scary at the same time!!!!
Let that be a lesson to you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207068</id>
	<title>Re:Better value per dollar</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1266593220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Indeed, and this is nothing new - the Iphones have long being playing catchup to what's available in cheap bog standard phones (e.g., 3G, copy/paste, video recording, Java, MMS, ability to run apps from anywhere, tethering). Sure, it has better hardware (you'd hope so, for the price), but it's also had gaps that have taken Apple years to fix (and in some cases, they're still not available), and it is hardly the be all and end all of phones, nor is it clear why it deserves the "smartphone" label when other phones don't (all feature phones are smartphones these days, really, by the original meaning of the term).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Indeed , and this is nothing new - the Iphones have long being playing catchup to what 's available in cheap bog standard phones ( e.g. , 3G , copy/paste , video recording , Java , MMS , ability to run apps from anywhere , tethering ) .
Sure , it has better hardware ( you 'd hope so , for the price ) , but it 's also had gaps that have taken Apple years to fix ( and in some cases , they 're still not available ) , and it is hardly the be all and end all of phones , nor is it clear why it deserves the " smartphone " label when other phones do n't ( all feature phones are smartphones these days , really , by the original meaning of the term ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Indeed, and this is nothing new - the Iphones have long being playing catchup to what's available in cheap bog standard phones (e.g., 3G, copy/paste, video recording, Java, MMS, ability to run apps from anywhere, tethering).
Sure, it has better hardware (you'd hope so, for the price), but it's also had gaps that have taken Apple years to fix (and in some cases, they're still not available), and it is hardly the be all and end all of phones, nor is it clear why it deserves the "smartphone" label when other phones don't (all feature phones are smartphones these days, really, by the original meaning of the term).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205096</id>
	<title>Never fails to astound...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266578160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You know I'm almost never ceasing to be amazed by the effort and dedication of people who bootleg.</p><p>So much hard work.  So much time spent working out how to design, construct, and replicate just close enough to make the sale and in some places even make a 'moderately' working replica.</p><p>If only the bootleggers could be recruited to actually create and sell your product!</p><p>On another thought you have to wonder on a component standpoint some of the bootleggers/replicators (wow sounds like I'm talking about some robot race) throw it all together with all that effort and sell it so cheap when a suitably crappy real version can cost quadruple or more!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You know I 'm almost never ceasing to be amazed by the effort and dedication of people who bootleg.So much hard work .
So much time spent working out how to design , construct , and replicate just close enough to make the sale and in some places even make a 'moderately ' working replica.If only the bootleggers could be recruited to actually create and sell your product ! On another thought you have to wonder on a component standpoint some of the bootleggers/replicators ( wow sounds like I 'm talking about some robot race ) throw it all together with all that effort and sell it so cheap when a suitably crappy real version can cost quadruple or more !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You know I'm almost never ceasing to be amazed by the effort and dedication of people who bootleg.So much hard work.
So much time spent working out how to design, construct, and replicate just close enough to make the sale and in some places even make a 'moderately' working replica.If only the bootleggers could be recruited to actually create and sell your product!On another thought you have to wonder on a component standpoint some of the bootleggers/replicators (wow sounds like I'm talking about some robot race) throw it all together with all that effort and sell it so cheap when a suitably crappy real version can cost quadruple or more!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207016</id>
	<title>Re:I've been using one for the last year</title>
	<author>CAIMLAS</author>
	<datestamp>1266592260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The one thing which would make me seriously consider buying one (or more) of these phones - even though I'm in an all-CDMA area - is the ability to run Linux on them - Maemo/Moblin/Android or similar.</p><p>So, I have to wonder: why hasn't anyone put Linux on any of these, and why isn't there an extensive modding community? Do they have DRM or some such thing preventing such a thing, or are so many corners taken that booting anything but the stock ROM will fail? A new $50 ARM computer with decent specs and a usable touchscreen, not to mention killer battery life? Where do I sign up!</p><p>Think about it: these are dirt cheap MIPS or (more likely) ARM based devices. They've got some solidly impressive specifications (even if half the parts barely meet electrical tolerances). They are not slow. Equivalent or lesser development platforms (FriendlyARM) are much more expensive ($140 or so) for something similar, and that's about as good as you can find for a dev board with a touchscreen LCD of any type.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The one thing which would make me seriously consider buying one ( or more ) of these phones - even though I 'm in an all-CDMA area - is the ability to run Linux on them - Maemo/Moblin/Android or similar.So , I have to wonder : why has n't anyone put Linux on any of these , and why is n't there an extensive modding community ?
Do they have DRM or some such thing preventing such a thing , or are so many corners taken that booting anything but the stock ROM will fail ?
A new $ 50 ARM computer with decent specs and a usable touchscreen , not to mention killer battery life ?
Where do I sign up ! Think about it : these are dirt cheap MIPS or ( more likely ) ARM based devices .
They 've got some solidly impressive specifications ( even if half the parts barely meet electrical tolerances ) .
They are not slow .
Equivalent or lesser development platforms ( FriendlyARM ) are much more expensive ( $ 140 or so ) for something similar , and that 's about as good as you can find for a dev board with a touchscreen LCD of any type .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The one thing which would make me seriously consider buying one (or more) of these phones - even though I'm in an all-CDMA area - is the ability to run Linux on them - Maemo/Moblin/Android or similar.So, I have to wonder: why hasn't anyone put Linux on any of these, and why isn't there an extensive modding community?
Do they have DRM or some such thing preventing such a thing, or are so many corners taken that booting anything but the stock ROM will fail?
A new $50 ARM computer with decent specs and a usable touchscreen, not to mention killer battery life?
Where do I sign up!Think about it: these are dirt cheap MIPS or (more likely) ARM based devices.
They've got some solidly impressive specifications (even if half the parts barely meet electrical tolerances).
They are not slow.
Equivalent or lesser development platforms (FriendlyARM) are much more expensive ($140 or so) for something similar, and that's about as good as you can find for a dev board with a touchscreen LCD of any type.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206340</id>
	<title>Re:Never fails to astound...</title>
	<author>TimeTraveler1884</author>
	<datestamp>1266585420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>So much time spent working out how to design, construct, and replicate just close enough to make the sale...</p></div><p>I doubt there was little if any NRE (Non-Reoccurring Engineering) costs involved in the construction of these iPhonies. The price alone strongly suggests the most likely explanation is that the Chinese manufactures making the genuine iPhone, are running their production lines on the side, without Apple's consent.</p><p>Apple has handed them the specifications and all the manufacturer has to do is build a few thousand more than what Apple orders. The bootleg manufacturers don't even have to pay for things like molds or automation setup costs. They then fill in any missing pieces (such as software or mute slider switches) with the cheapest thing they can get.</p><p>You probably would be surprised at how often this happens with consumer goods built in China.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So much time spent working out how to design , construct , and replicate just close enough to make the sale...I doubt there was little if any NRE ( Non-Reoccurring Engineering ) costs involved in the construction of these iPhonies .
The price alone strongly suggests the most likely explanation is that the Chinese manufactures making the genuine iPhone , are running their production lines on the side , without Apple 's consent.Apple has handed them the specifications and all the manufacturer has to do is build a few thousand more than what Apple orders .
The bootleg manufacturers do n't even have to pay for things like molds or automation setup costs .
They then fill in any missing pieces ( such as software or mute slider switches ) with the cheapest thing they can get.You probably would be surprised at how often this happens with consumer goods built in China .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So much time spent working out how to design, construct, and replicate just close enough to make the sale...I doubt there was little if any NRE (Non-Reoccurring Engineering) costs involved in the construction of these iPhonies.
The price alone strongly suggests the most likely explanation is that the Chinese manufactures making the genuine iPhone, are running their production lines on the side, without Apple's consent.Apple has handed them the specifications and all the manufacturer has to do is build a few thousand more than what Apple orders.
The bootleg manufacturers don't even have to pay for things like molds or automation setup costs.
They then fill in any missing pieces (such as software or mute slider switches) with the cheapest thing they can get.You probably would be surprised at how often this happens with consumer goods built in China.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206006</id>
	<title>fake blackberry, money well spent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266583140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recently bought a fake blackberry at the Official Beijing Fake Market for 40$, and I love it. (I think the case is similar to the Blackberry 8900)</p><p>Dual sim, QWERTY keyboard, good screen, fast (and stable) firmware, excellent battery time (thanks to 3700mAH battery), bluetooth, can be used as a webcam via USB, TV Tuner, and the list goes on! It even has a lot of options my previous 'real' phones did not have, like saving texts directly to MMC. (8gb supported).</p><p>Here's the kicker:<br>It's a full J2ME phone so I managed to install many apps, including Google Maps and Opera 5.2, which both work excellent.</p><p>It's excellent build quality, but if this one breaks I'm buying a "Chinese Copy Phone" again.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently bought a fake blackberry at the Official Beijing Fake Market for 40 $ , and I love it .
( I think the case is similar to the Blackberry 8900 ) Dual sim , QWERTY keyboard , good screen , fast ( and stable ) firmware , excellent battery time ( thanks to 3700mAH battery ) , bluetooth , can be used as a webcam via USB , TV Tuner , and the list goes on !
It even has a lot of options my previous 'real ' phones did not have , like saving texts directly to MMC .
( 8gb supported ) .Here 's the kicker : It 's a full J2ME phone so I managed to install many apps , including Google Maps and Opera 5.2 , which both work excellent.It 's excellent build quality , but if this one breaks I 'm buying a " Chinese Copy Phone " again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently bought a fake blackberry at the Official Beijing Fake Market for 40$, and I love it.
(I think the case is similar to the Blackberry 8900)Dual sim, QWERTY keyboard, good screen, fast (and stable) firmware, excellent battery time (thanks to 3700mAH battery), bluetooth, can be used as a webcam via USB, TV Tuner, and the list goes on!
It even has a lot of options my previous 'real' phones did not have, like saving texts directly to MMC.
(8gb supported).Here's the kicker:It's a full J2ME phone so I managed to install many apps, including Google Maps and Opera 5.2, which both work excellent.It's excellent build quality, but if this one breaks I'm buying a "Chinese Copy Phone" again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208534</id>
	<title>My roommate has this</title>
	<author>gorrepati</author>
	<datestamp>1266699060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>He has two of them actually. He ordered one, and got two. Anyways, it was not as convincing as the author of this post lead us to believe. Yeah, it was similar, but once the screen is turned on, I could see it was not an iPhone.</htmltext>
<tokenext>He has two of them actually .
He ordered one , and got two .
Anyways , it was not as convincing as the author of this post lead us to believe .
Yeah , it was similar , but once the screen is turned on , I could see it was not an iPhone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>He has two of them actually.
He ordered one, and got two.
Anyways, it was not as convincing as the author of this post lead us to believe.
Yeah, it was similar, but once the screen is turned on, I could see it was not an iPhone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205666</id>
	<title>HiPhone Clone</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266581280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bought a HiPhone a while ago, and promptly sold it for being amateur hardware.</p><p>It was a reasonable fascimile, but anyone who compares it to the real thing wouldn't be fooled for a moment.</p><p>Of course, a HiPhone isn't a counterfeit (I guess), but a clone. I'm not sure if there's a real difference, but it too supported a number of features I liked over the iPhone, including dual SIM, expandable memory, and being unlocked.</p><p>It was still awful, so I bought a Sony Ericsson and just when it was getting time to upgrade, the Nexus One was released.</p><p>I can't even imagine using a regular phone now.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bought a HiPhone a while ago , and promptly sold it for being amateur hardware.It was a reasonable fascimile , but anyone who compares it to the real thing would n't be fooled for a moment.Of course , a HiPhone is n't a counterfeit ( I guess ) , but a clone .
I 'm not sure if there 's a real difference , but it too supported a number of features I liked over the iPhone , including dual SIM , expandable memory , and being unlocked.It was still awful , so I bought a Sony Ericsson and just when it was getting time to upgrade , the Nexus One was released.I ca n't even imagine using a regular phone now .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bought a HiPhone a while ago, and promptly sold it for being amateur hardware.It was a reasonable fascimile, but anyone who compares it to the real thing wouldn't be fooled for a moment.Of course, a HiPhone isn't a counterfeit (I guess), but a clone.
I'm not sure if there's a real difference, but it too supported a number of features I liked over the iPhone, including dual SIM, expandable memory, and being unlocked.It was still awful, so I bought a Sony Ericsson and just when it was getting time to upgrade, the Nexus One was released.I can't even imagine using a regular phone now.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207192</id>
	<title>Marketing!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266594240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In many ways it's not about the technology at all. It's not like the iPhone represents things which are that far ahead of the technological curve.</p><p>It's about piggybacking on Apple's huge marketing presence and brand-name-recognition.</p><p>Those bootleggers could use the same amount of technical "hard work" to create a distinctive and useful device which does 80\% of what an iPhone does at 20\% of the cost... And then fail to make any money at all because everyone would buy the iPhone anyway.</p><p>Too bad we don't live in a world where the substance of technology always wins over the form of its marketing presence. But hey, anyone running Linux knows that<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:p</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In many ways it 's not about the technology at all .
It 's not like the iPhone represents things which are that far ahead of the technological curve.It 's about piggybacking on Apple 's huge marketing presence and brand-name-recognition.Those bootleggers could use the same amount of technical " hard work " to create a distinctive and useful device which does 80 \ % of what an iPhone does at 20 \ % of the cost... And then fail to make any money at all because everyone would buy the iPhone anyway.Too bad we do n't live in a world where the substance of technology always wins over the form of its marketing presence .
But hey , anyone running Linux knows that : p</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In many ways it's not about the technology at all.
It's not like the iPhone represents things which are that far ahead of the technological curve.It's about piggybacking on Apple's huge marketing presence and brand-name-recognition.Those bootleggers could use the same amount of technical "hard work" to create a distinctive and useful device which does 80\% of what an iPhone does at 20\% of the cost... And then fail to make any money at all because everyone would buy the iPhone anyway.Too bad we don't live in a world where the substance of technology always wins over the form of its marketing presence.
But hey, anyone running Linux knows that :p</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208524</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>Tanuki64</author>
	<datestamp>1266698880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What happened when you pressed the button?</p></div><p>You will get 1000000 dollars and somewhere in the world a person you don't know dies.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What happened when you pressed the button ? You will get 1000000 dollars and somewhere in the world a person you do n't know dies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What happened when you pressed the button?You will get 1000000 dollars and somewhere in the world a person you don't know dies.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205342</id>
	<title>News Flash:</title>
	<author>Chris Mattern</author>
	<datestamp>1266579360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When you buy a name-brand item from someone you don't know on the street or in a bar, you get a cheap knock-off.</p><p>Film at eleven.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When you buy a name-brand item from someone you do n't know on the street or in a bar , you get a cheap knock-off.Film at eleven .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When you buy a name-brand item from someone you don't know on the street or in a bar, you get a cheap knock-off.Film at eleven.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205884</id>
	<title>Re:SEE!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266582480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>everyone knows bars don't sell phones they sell hookers and blow!</p></div></blockquote><p>
You're right, forget the phones.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>everyone knows bars do n't sell phones they sell hookers and blow !
You 're right , forget the phones .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>everyone knows bars don't sell phones they sell hookers and blow!
You're right, forget the phones.
	</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206700</id>
	<title>Re:Never fails to astound...</title>
	<author>orlanz</author>
	<datestamp>1266588600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Its called the 3rd shift.  You have Chinese factories that just keep the assembly line running for a third unoffical shift.  The local assembler, nor the US company really cares enough to stop them.  Not to mention the incentives from the under the table dealings.</p><p>Why doesn't the US company stop them?  Cause the markets that they really care about and make profit in (US and Europe) have heavy enough disincentives to make bootlegging insignificant in comparison to the costs of further stopping them.  Plus, the majority of the bootlegging sector can't or won't afford your product anyway.  They aren't a customer to begin with, so why stop them from subsidizing your purchasing costs to the 3 shift vendor.</p><p>Now when politics hits the fan or someone gets greedy under the table, all Ell breaks loose.... for a week and then  freezes over again.  As to address gmack's post further down, most mass produced hardware is like lego blocks.  You just need a smart enough individual in electrical engineering to put things together in the right order (trust me, that's not a scarcity in most of the world).  So its not too hard to put an extra solid disk chip, sim reader, flash light, or even add a FM component when you are already the assembler who has access to the \_expensive\_ specs, the assemblers, AND the manufactures behind them.  Not to mention, most hardware will automatically support the additional stuff as its already built in, but for high, profitable yield ratios, those features are disabled or not used (See AMD Phenom II X series for an excellent example).  This is why the third shift stuff is such a hit or miss, its doesn't have proper QC to minimize the defects.  If they did, it would be VERY expensive... more so than the original.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Its called the 3rd shift .
You have Chinese factories that just keep the assembly line running for a third unoffical shift .
The local assembler , nor the US company really cares enough to stop them .
Not to mention the incentives from the under the table dealings.Why does n't the US company stop them ?
Cause the markets that they really care about and make profit in ( US and Europe ) have heavy enough disincentives to make bootlegging insignificant in comparison to the costs of further stopping them .
Plus , the majority of the bootlegging sector ca n't or wo n't afford your product anyway .
They are n't a customer to begin with , so why stop them from subsidizing your purchasing costs to the 3 shift vendor.Now when politics hits the fan or someone gets greedy under the table , all Ell breaks loose.... for a week and then freezes over again .
As to address gmack 's post further down , most mass produced hardware is like lego blocks .
You just need a smart enough individual in electrical engineering to put things together in the right order ( trust me , that 's not a scarcity in most of the world ) .
So its not too hard to put an extra solid disk chip , sim reader , flash light , or even add a FM component when you are already the assembler who has access to the \ _expensive \ _ specs , the assemblers , AND the manufactures behind them .
Not to mention , most hardware will automatically support the additional stuff as its already built in , but for high , profitable yield ratios , those features are disabled or not used ( See AMD Phenom II X series for an excellent example ) .
This is why the third shift stuff is such a hit or miss , its does n't have proper QC to minimize the defects .
If they did , it would be VERY expensive... more so than the original .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Its called the 3rd shift.
You have Chinese factories that just keep the assembly line running for a third unoffical shift.
The local assembler, nor the US company really cares enough to stop them.
Not to mention the incentives from the under the table dealings.Why doesn't the US company stop them?
Cause the markets that they really care about and make profit in (US and Europe) have heavy enough disincentives to make bootlegging insignificant in comparison to the costs of further stopping them.
Plus, the majority of the bootlegging sector can't or won't afford your product anyway.
They aren't a customer to begin with, so why stop them from subsidizing your purchasing costs to the 3 shift vendor.Now when politics hits the fan or someone gets greedy under the table, all Ell breaks loose.... for a week and then  freezes over again.
As to address gmack's post further down, most mass produced hardware is like lego blocks.
You just need a smart enough individual in electrical engineering to put things together in the right order (trust me, that's not a scarcity in most of the world).
So its not too hard to put an extra solid disk chip, sim reader, flash light, or even add a FM component when you are already the assembler who has access to the \_expensive\_ specs, the assemblers, AND the manufactures behind them.
Not to mention, most hardware will automatically support the additional stuff as its already built in, but for high, profitable yield ratios, those features are disabled or not used (See AMD Phenom II X series for an excellent example).
This is why the third shift stuff is such a hit or miss, its doesn't have proper QC to minimize the defects.
If they did, it would be VERY expensive... more so than the original.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205446</id>
	<title>for the money, you still have a better deal ...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266579900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... than <a href="http://englishrussia.com/?p=2091" title="englishrussia.com" rel="nofollow">this guy</a> [englishrussia.com].</p><p>And that "Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her. " is exactly the <a href="http://www.gamedition.com/2/Axe\_Feather" title="gamedition.com" rel="nofollow">Axe Feather game</a> [gamedition.com]; wonder if they actually ported Flash to that phone.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... than this guy [ englishrussia.com ] .And that " Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her .
" is exactly the Axe Feather game [ gamedition.com ] ; wonder if they actually ported Flash to that phone .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... than this guy [englishrussia.com].And that "Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her.
" is exactly the Axe Feather game [gamedition.com]; wonder if they actually ported Flash to that phone.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205392</id>
	<title>Coming to a Home Depot lot near you...</title>
	<author>garyisabusyguy</author>
	<datestamp>1266579600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This sounds a lot like White Van speaker scams<br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White\_van\_speaker\_scam/" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White\_van\_speaker\_scam/</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>If that is the case, expect it to be made from cast-off electronic components with a failure rate not unlike a Yugo</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds a lot like White Van speaker scamshttp : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White \ _van \ _speaker \ _scam/ [ wikipedia.org ] If that is the case , expect it to be made from cast-off electronic components with a failure rate not unlike a Yugo</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds a lot like White Van speaker scamshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White\_van\_speaker\_scam/ [wikipedia.org]If that is the case, expect it to be made from cast-off electronic components with a failure rate not unlike a Yugo</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205618</id>
	<title>Re:WARNING I have a friend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266580920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sounds like a better premise than the the last ~500 movies of the week on Syfy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sounds like a better premise than the the last ~ 500 movies of the week on Syfy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sounds like a better premise than the the last ~500 movies of the week on Syfy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205814</id>
	<title>I've been using one for the last year</title>
	<author>johnny6vasquez</author>
	<datestamp>1266582060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I initially bought one of these as a joke.
</p><p>
At first I hated it, but it really grew on me. Having an unlocked iPhone form-factor phone, that I can transfer anything I want to it, pictures, music, movies, all over usb, is really nice. I took it traveling and really liked having two batteries, especially after I started reading books on it. Say what you want about the new eBook readers, but I love having a backlit screen that can fit in my pocket, fit hundreds of books on microSD cards, and has a backup battery. I could read clearly at night in bed or waiting for the subway in poorly lit areas.
</p><p>
It's really funny to watch an iPhone user try to use my phone, because even though it looks nearly the same, the screen handles way differently, needing more of a tap than a slide.
</p><p>
I wouldn't buy one of these for running apps on, I would just use it for an eBook reader and phone. That's all I wanted out of it and it exceeded my initial expectations.
</p><p>
This is the one I have: <a href="http://product.madeinchina.com/CECT-i9-Quadband-Unlocked-Dual-Sim-PDA-Smart-phone/10618567.shtml" title="madeinchina.com" rel="nofollow">http://product.madeinchina.com/CECT-i9-Quadband-Unlocked-Dual-Sim-PDA-Smart-phone/10618567.shtml</a> [madeinchina.com]
</p><p>
If all you want is a unlocked phone and eBook reader with awesome battery life, give it a try. But the article is right that it can't compare to an iPhone. The user interface sucks compared to Apple's product, especially when you move into the submenus.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I initially bought one of these as a joke .
At first I hated it , but it really grew on me .
Having an unlocked iPhone form-factor phone , that I can transfer anything I want to it , pictures , music , movies , all over usb , is really nice .
I took it traveling and really liked having two batteries , especially after I started reading books on it .
Say what you want about the new eBook readers , but I love having a backlit screen that can fit in my pocket , fit hundreds of books on microSD cards , and has a backup battery .
I could read clearly at night in bed or waiting for the subway in poorly lit areas .
It 's really funny to watch an iPhone user try to use my phone , because even though it looks nearly the same , the screen handles way differently , needing more of a tap than a slide .
I would n't buy one of these for running apps on , I would just use it for an eBook reader and phone .
That 's all I wanted out of it and it exceeded my initial expectations .
This is the one I have : http : //product.madeinchina.com/CECT-i9-Quadband-Unlocked-Dual-Sim-PDA-Smart-phone/10618567.shtml [ madeinchina.com ] If all you want is a unlocked phone and eBook reader with awesome battery life , give it a try .
But the article is right that it ca n't compare to an iPhone .
The user interface sucks compared to Apple 's product , especially when you move into the submenus .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I initially bought one of these as a joke.
At first I hated it, but it really grew on me.
Having an unlocked iPhone form-factor phone, that I can transfer anything I want to it, pictures, music, movies, all over usb, is really nice.
I took it traveling and really liked having two batteries, especially after I started reading books on it.
Say what you want about the new eBook readers, but I love having a backlit screen that can fit in my pocket, fit hundreds of books on microSD cards, and has a backup battery.
I could read clearly at night in bed or waiting for the subway in poorly lit areas.
It's really funny to watch an iPhone user try to use my phone, because even though it looks nearly the same, the screen handles way differently, needing more of a tap than a slide.
I wouldn't buy one of these for running apps on, I would just use it for an eBook reader and phone.
That's all I wanted out of it and it exceeded my initial expectations.
This is the one I have: http://product.madeinchina.com/CECT-i9-Quadband-Unlocked-Dual-Sim-PDA-Smart-phone/10618567.shtml [madeinchina.com]

If all you want is a unlocked phone and eBook reader with awesome battery life, give it a try.
But the article is right that it can't compare to an iPhone.
The user interface sucks compared to Apple's product, especially when you move into the submenus.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205782</id>
	<title>maybe it's better?</title>
	<author>darrenkopp</author>
	<datestamp>1266581880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>i bet it'll run flash before the iphone does.</htmltext>
<tokenext>i bet it 'll run flash before the iphone does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i bet it'll run flash before the iphone does.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207656</id>
	<title>Re:WTF?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1266598980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
I don't know.. but it sounds like he got something (slightly) more useful than what is normally sold at a bar<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)
</p><p>
Liquor and electronics are just different ways of disposing of cash...  the latter at least can have a more lasting benefit.
</p><p>
Whereas $50 spent  on mixed drinks is a sunk cost that provides brief pleasure for one night, and then goes away.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know.. but it sounds like he got something ( slightly ) more useful than what is normally sold at a bar : ) Liquor and electronics are just different ways of disposing of cash... the latter at least can have a more lasting benefit .
Whereas $ 50 spent on mixed drinks is a sunk cost that provides brief pleasure for one night , and then goes away .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
I don't know.. but it sounds like he got something (slightly) more useful than what is normally sold at a bar :)

Liquor and electronics are just different ways of disposing of cash...  the latter at least can have a more lasting benefit.
Whereas $50 spent  on mixed drinks is a sunk cost that provides brief pleasure for one night, and then goes away.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206888</id>
	<title>Re: What You Get When You Buy a $40 iPhone In a Ba</title>
	<author>mschoolbus</author>
	<datestamp>1266590760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Arrested as in beer, not as in speech.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Arrested as in beer , not as in speech .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arrested as in beer, not as in speech.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205258</id>
	<title>Sorry dude, it's fake</title>
	<author>TokyoJimu</author>
	<datestamp>1266578880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I recently spotted a waiter with an iPhone in a third-world country so I went over to ask him about it.  But it quickly became obvious that it was a fake.  The sad thing is, I don't think the guy knew it.  He said his mom paid $120 for it but it was basically unusable.  You had to press real hard on the screen and the location calibration was way off (I'd played with another fake iPhone when I was in Laos and it was much better than this one).  I showed him mine and the way it's supposed to work, with just a light flick of the finger.</p><p>Once I'd convinced him it was a fake, he asked me how much fakes like his go for in the U.S.  I told him we don't have the fakes because you can get a new real one for $99 (with two-year contract).  I ended up talking to the guy for a half-hour and it was a learning experience for both of us.  But I felt bad for the guy, having spent several months' salary on a phone that barely worked (and possibly thinking that Apple makes such poor products)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I recently spotted a waiter with an iPhone in a third-world country so I went over to ask him about it .
But it quickly became obvious that it was a fake .
The sad thing is , I do n't think the guy knew it .
He said his mom paid $ 120 for it but it was basically unusable .
You had to press real hard on the screen and the location calibration was way off ( I 'd played with another fake iPhone when I was in Laos and it was much better than this one ) .
I showed him mine and the way it 's supposed to work , with just a light flick of the finger.Once I 'd convinced him it was a fake , he asked me how much fakes like his go for in the U.S. I told him we do n't have the fakes because you can get a new real one for $ 99 ( with two-year contract ) .
I ended up talking to the guy for a half-hour and it was a learning experience for both of us .
But I felt bad for the guy , having spent several months ' salary on a phone that barely worked ( and possibly thinking that Apple makes such poor products )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I recently spotted a waiter with an iPhone in a third-world country so I went over to ask him about it.
But it quickly became obvious that it was a fake.
The sad thing is, I don't think the guy knew it.
He said his mom paid $120 for it but it was basically unusable.
You had to press real hard on the screen and the location calibration was way off (I'd played with another fake iPhone when I was in Laos and it was much better than this one).
I showed him mine and the way it's supposed to work, with just a light flick of the finger.Once I'd convinced him it was a fake, he asked me how much fakes like his go for in the U.S.  I told him we don't have the fakes because you can get a new real one for $99 (with two-year contract).
I ended up talking to the guy for a half-hour and it was a learning experience for both of us.
But I felt bad for the guy, having spent several months' salary on a phone that barely worked (and possibly thinking that Apple makes such poor products)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206960</id>
	<title>Could they get Android to run on it?</title>
	<author>Dr. Spork</author>
	<datestamp>1266591540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Since Android is open source, couldn't they just use it and skin it to mimic the iPhone? That would be free and legal, and potentially make this a pretty cool device.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Since Android is open source , could n't they just use it and skin it to mimic the iPhone ?
That would be free and legal , and potentially make this a pretty cool device .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since Android is open source, couldn't they just use it and skin it to mimic the iPhone?
That would be free and legal, and potentially make this a pretty cool device.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205112</id>
	<title>the new version</title>
	<author>rarel</author>
	<datestamp>1266578220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>the iPhony!</htmltext>
<tokenext>the iPhony !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the iPhony!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205958</id>
	<title>WTF?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266582900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What the hell did he THINK he was going to get for his money? In a freakin' BAR?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What the hell did he THINK he was going to get for his money ?
In a freakin ' BAR ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What the hell did he THINK he was going to get for his money?
In a freakin' BAR?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205506</id>
	<title>Re:Never fails to astound...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266580380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The same could be said of all sophisticated criminals. For those that run large bot nets. Why so much effort into a crime? If you put the same effort into releasing good software you could make a very very good living.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The same could be said of all sophisticated criminals .
For those that run large bot nets .
Why so much effort into a crime ?
If you put the same effort into releasing good software you could make a very very good living .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The same could be said of all sophisticated criminals.
For those that run large bot nets.
Why so much effort into a crime?
If you put the same effort into releasing good software you could make a very very good living.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205096</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207212</id>
	<title>Re:Sorry dude, it's fake</title>
	<author>sorak</author>
	<datestamp>1266594420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>But I felt bad for the guy, having spent several months' salary on a phone that barely worked (and possibly thinking that Apple makes such poor products)</p></div><p>I'd hate to be "that guy", but if $120 is several months salary, then thinking Apple makes poor products is probably the least of his worries.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But I felt bad for the guy , having spent several months ' salary on a phone that barely worked ( and possibly thinking that Apple makes such poor products ) I 'd hate to be " that guy " , but if $ 120 is several months salary , then thinking Apple makes poor products is probably the least of his worries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But I felt bad for the guy, having spent several months' salary on a phone that barely worked (and possibly thinking that Apple makes such poor products)I'd hate to be "that guy", but if $120 is several months salary, then thinking Apple makes poor products is probably the least of his worries.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205258</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31210120</id>
	<title>Re:Could they get Android to run on it?</title>
	<author>MathiasRav</author>
	<datestamp>1266682740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Android is just the software, you still need drivers to communicate with the hardware, and those are probably not freely available.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Android is just the software , you still need drivers to communicate with the hardware , and those are probably not freely available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Android is just the software, you still need drivers to communicate with the hardware, and those are probably not freely available.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206960</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206450</id>
	<title>Re:High Standards</title>
	<author>biryokumaru</author>
	<datestamp>1266586440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's actually just a (rather old) flash game.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's actually just a ( rather old ) flash game .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's actually just a (rather old) flash game.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31209754</id>
	<title>Splashing out &pound;25 in a bar</title>
	<author>jpallan</author>
	<datestamp>1266678060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext> this gentleman certainly got off light, when one considers what most things you can pick up in a bar for &pound;25 get you.</htmltext>
<tokenext>this gentleman certainly got off light , when one considers what most things you can pick up in a bar for   25 get you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> this gentleman certainly got off light, when one considers what most things you can pick up in a bar for £25 get you.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208240</id>
	<title>Blow S. Jobs</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1266606840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The app in questions showed a lissom Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her.</p></div></blockquote><p>Sold me! Where do I get one of these "special" iPhones?<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The app in questions showed a lissom Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her.Sold me !
Where do I get one of these " special " iPhones ?
     </tokentext>
<sentencetext>The app in questions showed a lissom Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her.Sold me!
Where do I get one of these "special" iPhones?
     
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208390</id>
	<title>Re:Coming to a Home Depot lot near you...</title>
	<author>Toonol</author>
	<datestamp>1266696060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>My experience with Chinese knockoff products is that they're half the quality, more versatile, and ten percent the price.  Often a better overall deal than the original.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My experience with Chinese knockoff products is that they 're half the quality , more versatile , and ten percent the price .
Often a better overall deal than the original .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My experience with Chinese knockoff products is that they're half the quality, more versatile, and ten percent the price.
Often a better overall deal than the original.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205392</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206354</id>
	<title>Googles real intention now becomes clear.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266585600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With open source operating systems available to replace the legally dubious copies of Windows Mobile and Nucleus RTOS that these phones use at present, the chinese phone market will not only have a flourishing Android ecosystem itself, but be able to sell these phones into the west with little impediment.  .  Genius Google, pure genius.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With open source operating systems available to replace the legally dubious copies of Windows Mobile and Nucleus RTOS that these phones use at present , the chinese phone market will not only have a flourishing Android ecosystem itself , but be able to sell these phones into the west with little impediment .
. Genius Google , pure genius .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With open source operating systems available to replace the legally dubious copies of Windows Mobile and Nucleus RTOS that these phones use at present, the chinese phone market will not only have a flourishing Android ecosystem itself, but be able to sell these phones into the west with little impediment.
.  Genius Google, pure genius.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208952</id>
	<title>Re:I've been using one for the last year</title>
	<author>DrXym</author>
	<datestamp>1266664020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>If all you want is a unlocked phone and eBook reader with awesome battery life, give it a try. But the article is right that it can't compare to an iPhone. The user interface sucks compared to Apple's product, especially when you move into the submenus. </i>
<p>
Sooner or later Android is going to turn up on these things and then people will able to buy cheap and functional smartphones for practically nothing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If all you want is a unlocked phone and eBook reader with awesome battery life , give it a try .
But the article is right that it ca n't compare to an iPhone .
The user interface sucks compared to Apple 's product , especially when you move into the submenus .
Sooner or later Android is going to turn up on these things and then people will able to buy cheap and functional smartphones for practically nothing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If all you want is a unlocked phone and eBook reader with awesome battery life, give it a try.
But the article is right that it can't compare to an iPhone.
The user interface sucks compared to Apple's product, especially when you move into the submenus.
Sooner or later Android is going to turn up on these things and then people will able to buy cheap and functional smartphones for practically nothing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205814</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207084</id>
	<title>Re:WARNING I have a friend</title>
	<author>Jesus\_666</author>
	<datestamp>1266593340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>One of my colleagues once bought a cheap Chinese MP4 player but it had a Sony battery and got so hot it melted in his pocket. When the doctor cut away his pants to examine the damage it turned out that China had actually partially merged into his leg -- he now has a large chunk of Asia in his lower hip. Pretty disgusting but there are some great camping sites near his knee.<br>
<br>
Now he's Chinaman, fighting against injustice by kicking evildoers with a leg that weighs several billion metric tons, which tends to hurt them a lot. His arch nemesis is every single Chinese citizen because they're not too thrilled about some random twit constantly tossing their entire country around. Also, the local tram company; fitting China into a tram is really difficult. He also can't fight injustice during Chinese New Year as his leg goes home to be with its family.<br>
<br>
<br>
Okay, so I made that up. The tram company doesn't really hate him.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One of my colleagues once bought a cheap Chinese MP4 player but it had a Sony battery and got so hot it melted in his pocket .
When the doctor cut away his pants to examine the damage it turned out that China had actually partially merged into his leg -- he now has a large chunk of Asia in his lower hip .
Pretty disgusting but there are some great camping sites near his knee .
Now he 's Chinaman , fighting against injustice by kicking evildoers with a leg that weighs several billion metric tons , which tends to hurt them a lot .
His arch nemesis is every single Chinese citizen because they 're not too thrilled about some random twit constantly tossing their entire country around .
Also , the local tram company ; fitting China into a tram is really difficult .
He also ca n't fight injustice during Chinese New Year as his leg goes home to be with its family .
Okay , so I made that up .
The tram company does n't really hate him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One of my colleagues once bought a cheap Chinese MP4 player but it had a Sony battery and got so hot it melted in his pocket.
When the doctor cut away his pants to examine the damage it turned out that China had actually partially merged into his leg -- he now has a large chunk of Asia in his lower hip.
Pretty disgusting but there are some great camping sites near his knee.
Now he's Chinaman, fighting against injustice by kicking evildoers with a leg that weighs several billion metric tons, which tends to hurt them a lot.
His arch nemesis is every single Chinese citizen because they're not too thrilled about some random twit constantly tossing their entire country around.
Also, the local tram company; fitting China into a tram is really difficult.
He also can't fight injustice during Chinese New Year as his leg goes home to be with its family.
Okay, so I made that up.
The tram company doesn't really hate him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205400</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205644</id>
	<title>Great timing</title>
	<author>rsayers</author>
	<datestamp>1266581040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I *just* ordered one of these from eBay yesterday.  I needed a cheap unlocked phone,  this option was cheaper than most name-brand used phones and at the price I paid, I won't be terribly upset if it's complete garbage.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I * just * ordered one of these from eBay yesterday .
I needed a cheap unlocked phone , this option was cheaper than most name-brand used phones and at the price I paid , I wo n't be terribly upset if it 's complete garbage .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I *just* ordered one of these from eBay yesterday.
I needed a cheap unlocked phone,  this option was cheaper than most name-brand used phones and at the price I paid, I won't be terribly upset if it's complete garbage.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206282</id>
	<title>Re:Botnet</title>
	<author>Culture20</author>
	<datestamp>1266584880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Probably also shows up as a drive for Windows with a handy autorun.inf for installing said software.  "Please to type administrator password for the sync"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Probably also shows up as a drive for Windows with a handy autorun.inf for installing said software .
" Please to type administrator password for the sync "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Probably also shows up as a drive for Windows with a handy autorun.inf for installing said software.
"Please to type administrator password for the sync"</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31216292</id>
	<title>Where you can buy it today for $100</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266689520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just think I stumbled across where you can find this unit for about $100 buck's</p><p>http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.32675</p><p>TVG10 2.8" Touch Screen Dual SIM Quadband Dual Camera TV GSM Cell Phone w/Wifi and JAVA (Black)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just think I stumbled across where you can find this unit for about $ 100 buck'shttp : //www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.32675TVG10 2.8 " Touch Screen Dual SIM Quadband Dual Camera TV GSM Cell Phone w/Wifi and JAVA ( Black )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just think I stumbled across where you can find this unit for about $100 buck'shttp://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.32675TVG10 2.8" Touch Screen Dual SIM Quadband Dual Camera TV GSM Cell Phone w/Wifi and JAVA (Black)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206614</id>
	<title>Re:Is it worse or better?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266587760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are standard fare from <a href="http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.511" title="dealextreme.com" rel="nofollow">DealExtreme</a> [dealextreme.com]. I don't know why this is even news.</p><p>Actually some of the phones they have look pretty decent. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of the watch phones that they sell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are standard fare from DealExtreme [ dealextreme.com ] .
I do n't know why this is even news.Actually some of the phones they have look pretty decent .
I would n't mind getting my hands on one of the watch phones that they sell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are standard fare from DealExtreme [dealextreme.com].
I don't know why this is even news.Actually some of the phones they have look pretty decent.
I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of the watch phones that they sell.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205160</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205662</id>
	<title>Re:SEE!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266581220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This is <b>exactly</b> what the new 'Anti-counterfeiting Treaty' currently being negotiated in <i>secret</i> is meant to protect us from!</p></div><p>This is exactly NOT what ACTA is being negotiated for.</p><p>ACTA is being negotiated to crush people who share their DVDs, CDs, and games with friends. Destroy people who buy a CD and then load it on their MP3 player. Beat up on people who sample, mix, or otherwise do anything but consume media.</p><p>And when I say "crush", "destroy", and "beat up" I mean sue them for everything they have. Sheesh! No wonder it's being negotiated in secret!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is exactly what the new 'Anti-counterfeiting Treaty ' currently being negotiated in secret is meant to protect us from ! This is exactly NOT what ACTA is being negotiated for.ACTA is being negotiated to crush people who share their DVDs , CDs , and games with friends .
Destroy people who buy a CD and then load it on their MP3 player .
Beat up on people who sample , mix , or otherwise do anything but consume media.And when I say " crush " , " destroy " , and " beat up " I mean sue them for everything they have .
Sheesh ! No wonder it 's being negotiated in secret !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is exactly what the new 'Anti-counterfeiting Treaty' currently being negotiated in secret is meant to protect us from!This is exactly NOT what ACTA is being negotiated for.ACTA is being negotiated to crush people who share their DVDs, CDs, and games with friends.
Destroy people who buy a CD and then load it on their MP3 player.
Beat up on people who sample, mix, or otherwise do anything but consume media.And when I say "crush", "destroy", and "beat up" I mean sue them for everything they have.
Sheesh! No wonder it's being negotiated in secret!
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205162</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205162</id>
	<title>SEE!!!</title>
	<author>ae1294</author>
	<datestamp>1266578460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is <b>exactly</b> what the new 'Anti-counterfeiting Treaty' currently being negotiated in <i>secret</i> is meant to protect us from!</p><p>Moral of this story - Don't buy a smart phone after you've been drinking all night and especially not one from said bar! I mean, come-on, everyone knows bars don't sell phones they sell hookers and blow!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is exactly what the new 'Anti-counterfeiting Treaty ' currently being negotiated in secret is meant to protect us from ! Moral of this story - Do n't buy a smart phone after you 've been drinking all night and especially not one from said bar !
I mean , come-on , everyone knows bars do n't sell phones they sell hookers and blow !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is exactly what the new 'Anti-counterfeiting Treaty' currently being negotiated in secret is meant to protect us from!Moral of this story - Don't buy a smart phone after you've been drinking all night and especially not one from said bar!
I mean, come-on, everyone knows bars don't sell phones they sell hookers and blow!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207354</id>
	<title>Re:I've been using one for the last year</title>
	<author>johnny6vasquez</author>
	<datestamp>1266595920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is the model I have <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93RnYZaeyFk" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93RnYZaeyFk</a> [youtube.com], it's a bit slimmer than the video in the thread above. I never dropped calls either, although the touchscreen was frustrating to get used to. The UI isn't as good as Apple's.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the model I have http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = 93RnYZaeyFk [ youtube.com ] , it 's a bit slimmer than the video in the thread above .
I never dropped calls either , although the touchscreen was frustrating to get used to .
The UI is n't as good as Apple 's .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the model I have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93RnYZaeyFk [youtube.com], it's a bit slimmer than the video in the thread above.
I never dropped calls either, although the touchscreen was frustrating to get used to.
The UI isn't as good as Apple's.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31209040</id>
	<title>Re:Never fails to astound...</title>
	<author>tsa</author>
	<datestamp>1266665940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Why doesn't the US company stop them? Cause the markets that they really care about and make profit in (US and Europe) have heavy enough disincentives to make bootlegging insignificant in comparison to the costs of further stopping them. Plus, the majority of the bootlegging sector can't or won't afford your product anyway. They aren't a customer to begin with, so why stop them from subsidizing your purchasing costs to the 3 shift vendor.</i> <br>
&nbsp; <br>Now when will the RIAA understand that and stop their manhunting?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why does n't the US company stop them ?
Cause the markets that they really care about and make profit in ( US and Europe ) have heavy enough disincentives to make bootlegging insignificant in comparison to the costs of further stopping them .
Plus , the majority of the bootlegging sector ca n't or wo n't afford your product anyway .
They are n't a customer to begin with , so why stop them from subsidizing your purchasing costs to the 3 shift vendor .
  Now when will the RIAA understand that and stop their manhunting ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why doesn't the US company stop them?
Cause the markets that they really care about and make profit in (US and Europe) have heavy enough disincentives to make bootlegging insignificant in comparison to the costs of further stopping them.
Plus, the majority of the bootlegging sector can't or won't afford your product anyway.
They aren't a customer to begin with, so why stop them from subsidizing your purchasing costs to the 3 shift vendor.
  Now when will the RIAA understand that and stop their manhunting?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205218</id>
	<title>Re: What You Get When You Buy a $40 iPhone In a Ba</title>
	<author>LostCluster</author>
	<datestamp>1266578700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep, but at least this one comes pre-jailbroken.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , but at least this one comes pre-jailbroken .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, but at least this one comes pre-jailbroken.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205326</id>
	<title>Where the hell can I get one?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266579240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>An iPhone running Windows Mobile 6.x?</p><p>In other words, an iPhone that can run GS Player and Opera? And can use it as USB storage? And for $40?</p><p>I'm sorry, but I don't see a down side here.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>An iPhone running Windows Mobile 6.x ? In other words , an iPhone that can run GS Player and Opera ?
And can use it as USB storage ?
And for $ 40 ? I 'm sorry , but I do n't see a down side here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An iPhone running Windows Mobile 6.x?In other words, an iPhone that can run GS Player and Opera?
And can use it as USB storage?
And for $40?I'm sorry, but I don't see a down side here.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205740</id>
	<title>So?</title>
	<author>hduff</author>
	<datestamp>1266581700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> . . . a bizarre auxiliary battery festooned with warnings about not pressing a button mounted on the front of the top-up device.</p></div><p>What happened when you pressed the button?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>.
. .
a bizarre auxiliary battery festooned with warnings about not pressing a button mounted on the front of the top-up device.What happened when you pressed the button ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext> .
. .
a bizarre auxiliary battery festooned with warnings about not pressing a button mounted on the front of the top-up device.What happened when you pressed the button?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205818</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>Existential Wombat</author>
	<datestamp>1266582060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A notice comes up saying "Please Do Not Press This Button Again"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A notice comes up saying " Please Do Not Press This Button Again "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A notice comes up saying "Please Do Not Press This Button Again"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205132</id>
	<title>High Standards</title>
	<author>Itninja</author>
	<datestamp>1266578340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>From TFA: <i>The final nail in the coffin was an app we found five screens in, which even allowing for "cultural differences" <b>Apple would never allow</b> through the approvals process. The app in questions showed a lissom <b>Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her</b>.</i> <br> <br>

So Apple would not allow this, but we <i>can</i> have like 100 fart apps? That's pretty messed up.</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : The final nail in the coffin was an app we found five screens in , which even allowing for " cultural differences " Apple would never allow through the approvals process .
The app in questions showed a lissom Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her .
So Apple would not allow this , but we can have like 100 fart apps ?
That 's pretty messed up .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: The final nail in the coffin was an app we found five screens in, which even allowing for "cultural differences" Apple would never allow through the approvals process.
The app in questions showed a lissom Asian lady lying on a bed who wriggles and moans suggestively when you rub your finger over her.
So Apple would not allow this, but we can have like 100 fart apps?
That's pretty messed up.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207278</id>
	<title>Re:I've been using one for the last year</title>
	<author>johnny6vasquez</author>
	<datestamp>1266594960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The CPU is a MT6226 CPU <a href="http://www.infinity-box.com/wiki/index.php/Chinese\_Miracle" title="infinity-box.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.infinity-box.com/wiki/index.php/Chinese\_Miracle</a> [infinity-box.com] </p><p>As far as I can tell, the people who mod their i9s use SpiderMan for flashing firmware and MTK Flash Tools for reading firmware, all over a com port using a special cable.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The CPU is a MT6226 CPU http : //www.infinity-box.com/wiki/index.php/Chinese \ _Miracle [ infinity-box.com ] As far as I can tell , the people who mod their i9s use SpiderMan for flashing firmware and MTK Flash Tools for reading firmware , all over a com port using a special cable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The CPU is a MT6226 CPU http://www.infinity-box.com/wiki/index.php/Chinese\_Miracle [infinity-box.com] As far as I can tell, the people who mod their i9s use SpiderMan for flashing firmware and MTK Flash Tools for reading firmware, all over a com port using a special cable.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206434</id>
	<title>Re:WARNING I have a friend</title>
	<author>zippthorne</author>
	<datestamp>1266586320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You got something against snakes?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You got something against snakes ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You got something against snakes?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31209072</id>
	<title>Pounds Sterling, not US Dollars. Pub, not bar.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266666780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why was it felt necessary to submit the story with $40 in the title instead of &pound;25? The fake iPhone wasn't bought for $40, it was bought for &pound;25. Come to that, why wasn't it felt necessary to prefix the dollar sign with an indication of which country's currency it refers to? Given Slashdot it based in the US and given current exchange rates I assume it refers to the US dollar, but the US is not the only country which uses dollars.<br>Why was it felt necessary to submit the story saying that the fake iPhone was bought in a bar, when the article says it was bought 'down the pub'?<br>Does the submitter not think Slashdot readership is capable of understanding things unless they're translated in to US terms?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why was it felt necessary to submit the story with $ 40 in the title instead of   25 ?
The fake iPhone was n't bought for $ 40 , it was bought for   25 .
Come to that , why was n't it felt necessary to prefix the dollar sign with an indication of which country 's currency it refers to ?
Given Slashdot it based in the US and given current exchange rates I assume it refers to the US dollar , but the US is not the only country which uses dollars.Why was it felt necessary to submit the story saying that the fake iPhone was bought in a bar , when the article says it was bought 'down the pub ' ? Does the submitter not think Slashdot readership is capable of understanding things unless they 're translated in to US terms ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why was it felt necessary to submit the story with $40 in the title instead of £25?
The fake iPhone wasn't bought for $40, it was bought for £25.
Come to that, why wasn't it felt necessary to prefix the dollar sign with an indication of which country's currency it refers to?
Given Slashdot it based in the US and given current exchange rates I assume it refers to the US dollar, but the US is not the only country which uses dollars.Why was it felt necessary to submit the story saying that the fake iPhone was bought in a bar, when the article says it was bought 'down the pub'?Does the submitter not think Slashdot readership is capable of understanding things unless they're translated in to US terms?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205296</id>
	<title>Botnet</title>
	<author>kheldan</author>
	<datestamp>1266579060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wouldn't at all be surprised, especially for the rediculously low selling price, if it's got botnet software embedded right into it, and this is part of an overall plan to create a wireless and mobile botnet. Either that, or a tool for direct identity theft or worse.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would n't at all be surprised , especially for the rediculously low selling price , if it 's got botnet software embedded right into it , and this is part of an overall plan to create a wireless and mobile botnet .
Either that , or a tool for direct identity theft or worse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wouldn't at all be surprised, especially for the rediculously low selling price, if it's got botnet software embedded right into it, and this is part of an overall plan to create a wireless and mobile botnet.
Either that, or a tool for direct identity theft or worse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205160</id>
	<title>Is it worse or better?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266578460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A guy I work with has one of these he bought in China. If it has a removable battery and Java it might be a good thing to own.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A guy I work with has one of these he bought in China .
If it has a removable battery and Java it might be a good thing to own .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A guy I work with has one of these he bought in China.
If it has a removable battery and Java it might be a good thing to own.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207638</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1266598800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
The button <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t\_ZNCfwRrZM" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">jumped</a> [youtube.com] to the other side of the phone as he tried to press it.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The button jumped [ youtube.com ] to the other side of the phone as he tried to press it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
The button jumped [youtube.com] to the other side of the phone as he tried to press it.
</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205440</id>
	<title>Youtube video review</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266579900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Here's an interesting video review of a fake iPhone on Youtube:<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2tVE7qRLwk" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2tVE7qRLwk</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's an interesting video review of a fake iPhone on Youtube : http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = B2tVE7qRLwk [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's an interesting video review of a fake iPhone on Youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2tVE7qRLwk [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207884</id>
	<title>Re:Never fails to astound...</title>
	<author>garompeta</author>
	<datestamp>1266601620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Why would they take the risk? Once they are in your factories they can copy your products even better.<br>See the biggest sportswear brand in china, <b>Li Ning</b>, even their logo is a blatant copy of Nike (but upside down) and their motto a blatant copy of Adidas ("Anything is possible" vs. "Impossible is nothing").</htmltext>
<tokenext>Why would they take the risk ?
Once they are in your factories they can copy your products even better.See the biggest sportswear brand in china , Li Ning , even their logo is a blatant copy of Nike ( but upside down ) and their motto a blatant copy of Adidas ( " Anything is possible " vs. " Impossible is nothing " ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why would they take the risk?
Once they are in your factories they can copy your products even better.See the biggest sportswear brand in china, Li Ning, even their logo is a blatant copy of Nike (but upside down) and their motto a blatant copy of Adidas ("Anything is possible" vs. "Impossible is nothing").</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205602</id>
	<title>Re:News Flash:</title>
	<author>Jeng</author>
	<datestamp>1266580920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And all this time I thought if I were to buy a name-brand product for dirt cheap at a bar that it would be stolen property.</p><p>Probably in the states its more likely to be stolen at least rather than a knock-off.  Knock-offs are more likely at the flea markets in the states rather than at bars.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And all this time I thought if I were to buy a name-brand product for dirt cheap at a bar that it would be stolen property.Probably in the states its more likely to be stolen at least rather than a knock-off .
Knock-offs are more likely at the flea markets in the states rather than at bars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And all this time I thought if I were to buy a name-brand product for dirt cheap at a bar that it would be stolen property.Probably in the states its more likely to be stolen at least rather than a knock-off.
Knock-offs are more likely at the flea markets in the states rather than at bars.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208640</id>
	<title>Re:Never fails to astound...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266657840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why? Artistic license. The bootleggers have to be geeks knowledgeable enough to build equipment. So, think of it as a black-Ops engineer, with a tech-minded soul, similar to ours. We tend to reduce the enemy to some form of mindless AI's, but you should give them credit too, and they are proud of their knock-offs enough to add signature touches that they feel the original COULD have had.</p><p>They assemble a product to BEAT or equal the real product in terms of features. More likely, users know and avoid their knockoff, but cheapskates and first-time "clients" only need a phone to appear better than the market one from competitors of the legit phone.</p><p>Without all the corporate laws and mandates, or even a need to obey IP and licensing for the new components and features, it's a piece of cake. The bootlegger creates one single product; their "product line" doesn't need 10 different models of this newly created knockoffs and probably doesn't get refreshed every couple years like the real iPhones. When the iPad came out, it very carefully omitted features that would make Apple lose sales of more expensive laptops and iPhones (camera, screen type and flash licenses.) The bootlegger's team doesn't have to worry that selling iPhon-y 2.0 will cut a prior bootegged iPhon-y 1.0 or iPhonyPad. Even if they did, each sale of their iPhony, being illegal in Apple's eyes, pipes some real profits away from the seller.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why ?
Artistic license .
The bootleggers have to be geeks knowledgeable enough to build equipment .
So , think of it as a black-Ops engineer , with a tech-minded soul , similar to ours .
We tend to reduce the enemy to some form of mindless AI 's , but you should give them credit too , and they are proud of their knock-offs enough to add signature touches that they feel the original COULD have had.They assemble a product to BEAT or equal the real product in terms of features .
More likely , users know and avoid their knockoff , but cheapskates and first-time " clients " only need a phone to appear better than the market one from competitors of the legit phone.Without all the corporate laws and mandates , or even a need to obey IP and licensing for the new components and features , it 's a piece of cake .
The bootlegger creates one single product ; their " product line " does n't need 10 different models of this newly created knockoffs and probably does n't get refreshed every couple years like the real iPhones .
When the iPad came out , it very carefully omitted features that would make Apple lose sales of more expensive laptops and iPhones ( camera , screen type and flash licenses .
) The bootlegger 's team does n't have to worry that selling iPhon-y 2.0 will cut a prior bootegged iPhon-y 1.0 or iPhonyPad .
Even if they did , each sale of their iPhony , being illegal in Apple 's eyes , pipes some real profits away from the seller .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why?
Artistic license.
The bootleggers have to be geeks knowledgeable enough to build equipment.
So, think of it as a black-Ops engineer, with a tech-minded soul, similar to ours.
We tend to reduce the enemy to some form of mindless AI's, but you should give them credit too, and they are proud of their knock-offs enough to add signature touches that they feel the original COULD have had.They assemble a product to BEAT or equal the real product in terms of features.
More likely, users know and avoid their knockoff, but cheapskates and first-time "clients" only need a phone to appear better than the market one from competitors of the legit phone.Without all the corporate laws and mandates, or even a need to obey IP and licensing for the new components and features, it's a piece of cake.
The bootlegger creates one single product; their "product line" doesn't need 10 different models of this newly created knockoffs and probably doesn't get refreshed every couple years like the real iPhones.
When the iPad came out, it very carefully omitted features that would make Apple lose sales of more expensive laptops and iPhones (camera, screen type and flash licenses.
) The bootlegger's team doesn't have to worry that selling iPhon-y 2.0 will cut a prior bootegged iPhon-y 1.0 or iPhonyPad.
Even if they did, each sale of their iPhony, being illegal in Apple's eyes, pipes some real profits away from the seller.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31207618</id>
	<title>Re:So?</title>
	<author>mysidia</author>
	<datestamp>1266598620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>All of planet earth got sucked into a void, Futarama-style.<blockquote><div><p>Stephen Hawking: "Great. The entire universe was destroyed."<br>
Him: "Destroyed? Then where are we now?"<br>
Al Gore: "I don't know. But I can darn well tell you where we're not: The universe!"
<br> <br>
"Anyone wanna play Dungeons &amp; Dragons for the next quadrillion years?"<br>
Stephen Hawking: "Yes, please."<br>
Deep Blue: "Pawn to rook A."<br>
Al Gore: "I'm a tenth level vice president!"</p></div>
</blockquote></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>All of planet earth got sucked into a void , Futarama-style.Stephen Hawking : " Great .
The entire universe was destroyed .
" Him : " Destroyed ?
Then where are we now ?
" Al Gore : " I do n't know .
But I can darn well tell you where we 're not : The universe !
" " Anyone wan na play Dungeons &amp; Dragons for the next quadrillion years ?
" Stephen Hawking : " Yes , please .
" Deep Blue : " Pawn to rook A .
" Al Gore : " I 'm a tenth level vice president !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>All of planet earth got sucked into a void, Futarama-style.Stephen Hawking: "Great.
The entire universe was destroyed.
"
Him: "Destroyed?
Then where are we now?
"
Al Gore: "I don't know.
But I can darn well tell you where we're not: The universe!
"
 
"Anyone wanna play Dungeons &amp; Dragons for the next quadrillion years?
"
Stephen Hawking: "Yes, please.
"
Deep Blue: "Pawn to rook A.
"
Al Gore: "I'm a tenth level vice president!
"

	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31208274</id>
	<title>By Neruos</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266607440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. has nothing else to report so they post things about stuff that happened 2 years ago? Anyone can go on ebay and get a sciphone/i9 iphone knock off for about 50 quid shipped to your door new.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What , / .
has nothing else to report so they post things about stuff that happened 2 years ago ?
Anyone can go on ebay and get a sciphone/i9 iphone knock off for about 50 quid shipped to your door new .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What, /.
has nothing else to report so they post things about stuff that happened 2 years ago?
Anyone can go on ebay and get a sciphone/i9 iphone knock off for about 50 quid shipped to your door new.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205066</id>
	<title>fraud</title>
	<author>chibiace</author>
	<datestamp>1266577980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>haha its a pain some of these people try to sell them at near retail prices, when the customer finally gets the product they are very shocked.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>haha its a pain some of these people try to sell them at near retail prices , when the customer finally gets the product they are very shocked .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>haha its a pain some of these people try to sell them at near retail prices, when the customer finally gets the product they are very shocked.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205592</id>
	<title>"full lowdown"?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266580860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A full description would have been most interesting, but this was just a glance description. From TFA's own author: <i>"I got my hands on it for basically 2 15 minute contacts."</i></p><p>Please re-title as  What<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/. Gets When You Buy a $40 Editor In a Bar.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A full description would have been most interesting , but this was just a glance description .
From TFA 's own author : " I got my hands on it for basically 2 15 minute contacts .
" Please re-title as What / .
Gets When You Buy a $ 40 Editor In a Bar .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A full description would have been most interesting, but this was just a glance description.
From TFA's own author: "I got my hands on it for basically 2 15 minute contacts.
"Please re-title as  What /.
Gets When You Buy a $40 Editor In a Bar.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205346</id>
	<title>Re:SEE!!!</title>
	<author>93 Escort Wagon</author>
	<datestamp>1266579360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Moral of this story - Don't buy a smart phone after you've been drinking all night and especially not one from said bar!</p></div><p>I seriously thought, for a moment or two, you said "especially not one from the <i>salad</i> bar!"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Moral of this story - Do n't buy a smart phone after you 've been drinking all night and especially not one from said bar ! I seriously thought , for a moment or two , you said " especially not one from the salad bar !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Moral of this story - Don't buy a smart phone after you've been drinking all night and especially not one from said bar!I seriously thought, for a moment or two, you said "especially not one from the salad bar!
"
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205162</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205636</id>
	<title>Re:Better value per dollar</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266580980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I bet you could probably install Linux on that thing!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet you could probably install Linux on that thing !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet you could probably install Linux on that thing!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205208</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206572</id>
	<title>I'd be afraid to</title>
	<author>KingSkippus</author>
	<datestamp>1266587460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be scared to try to use this for anything but maybe passing some idle time playing games.</p><p>I mean, think about it.  The OS and core apps are developed in China.  I'd be afraid if I use Chinzilla to read my e-mail on this thing, even if by WiFi, it would be "phoning home" to the people who installed the software to let them know where I'm going, what I'm doing, and oh, here are his passwords.  Good luck reporting or prosecuting that identity theft.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be scared to try to use this for anything but maybe passing some idle time playing games.I mean , think about it .
The OS and core apps are developed in China .
I 'd be afraid if I use Chinzilla to read my e-mail on this thing , even if by WiFi , it would be " phoning home " to the people who installed the software to let them know where I 'm going , what I 'm doing , and oh , here are his passwords .
Good luck reporting or prosecuting that identity theft .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be scared to try to use this for anything but maybe passing some idle time playing games.I mean, think about it.
The OS and core apps are developed in China.
I'd be afraid if I use Chinzilla to read my e-mail on this thing, even if by WiFi, it would be "phoning home" to the people who installed the software to let them know where I'm going, what I'm doing, and oh, here are his passwords.
Good luck reporting or prosecuting that identity theft.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205160</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206562</id>
	<title>Re:Great timing</title>
	<author>Boogaroo</author>
	<datestamp>1266587340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Be prepared for a poor web browsing experience.<br>Pages will show up in Chinese.<br>You won't be able to access some pages that require you to log in.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Be prepared for a poor web browsing experience.Pages will show up in Chinese.You wo n't be able to access some pages that require you to log in .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Be prepared for a poor web browsing experience.Pages will show up in Chinese.You won't be able to access some pages that require you to log in.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205644</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205126</id>
	<title>What You Get When You Buy a $40 iPhone In a Bar</title>
	<author>StikyPad</author>
	<datestamp>1266578340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Arrested?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Arrested ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Arrested?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31206188</id>
	<title>Re:Great timing</title>
	<author>YrWrstNtmr</author>
	<datestamp>1266584160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>this option was cheaper than most name-brand used phones and at the price I paid, I won't be terribly upset if it's complete garbage.</i> <br> <br>Why would you pay actual money for 'complete garbage'?<br>Ok, $5 maybe. But I've got a bag of actual garbage I'll sell you for $10, if you want it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>this option was cheaper than most name-brand used phones and at the price I paid , I wo n't be terribly upset if it 's complete garbage .
Why would you pay actual money for 'complete garbage ' ? Ok , $ 5 maybe .
But I 've got a bag of actual garbage I 'll sell you for $ 10 , if you want it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this option was cheaper than most name-brand used phones and at the price I paid, I won't be terribly upset if it's complete garbage.
Why would you pay actual money for 'complete garbage'?Ok, $5 maybe.
But I've got a bag of actual garbage I'll sell you for $10, if you want it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_19_2126221.31205644</parent>
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