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	<title>Nintendo Wins Lawsuit Over R4 Mod Chip Piracy</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1266490980000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>schliz writes <i>"The Federal Court has ordered an Australian distributor to <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/167490,nintendo-wins-lawsuit-over-r4-mod-chip-piracy.aspx">pay Nintendo over half a million dollars</a> for selling the R4 mod chip, which allows users to <a href="https://games.slashdot.org/story/08/07/29/2031229/Nintendo-Battles-Makers-of-the-R4">circumvent technology protection</a> measures in Nintendo's DS consoles. The distributor, RSJ IT Solutions, has been ordered to cease selling the chip through its gadgetgear.com.au site and any other sites it controls, as well as paying Nintendo $520,000 in damages."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>schliz writes " The Federal Court has ordered an Australian distributor to pay Nintendo over half a million dollars for selling the R4 mod chip , which allows users to circumvent technology protection measures in Nintendo 's DS consoles .
The distributor , RSJ IT Solutions , has been ordered to cease selling the chip through its gadgetgear.com.au site and any other sites it controls , as well as paying Nintendo $ 520,000 in damages .
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<sentencetext>schliz writes "The Federal Court has ordered an Australian distributor to pay Nintendo over half a million dollars for selling the R4 mod chip, which allows users to circumvent technology protection measures in Nintendo's DS consoles.
The distributor, RSJ IT Solutions, has been ordered to cease selling the chip through its gadgetgear.com.au site and any other sites it controls, as well as paying Nintendo $520,000 in damages.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182482</id>
	<title>Re:TPM?</title>
	<author>Farmer Tim</author>
	<datestamp>1266496140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>I'd like it if anyone could find "technical protection measure" actually defined within any Australian law.</i></p><p>Copyright Act, <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol\_act/ca1968133/s10.html#access\_control\_technological\_protection\_measure" title="austlii.edu.au">here</a> [austlii.edu.au] and <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol\_act/ca1968133/s10.html#technological\_protection\_measure" title="austlii.edu.au">here</a> [austlii.edu.au].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like it if anyone could find " technical protection measure " actually defined within any Australian law.Copyright Act , here [ austlii.edu.au ] and here [ austlii.edu.au ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like it if anyone could find "technical protection measure" actually defined within any Australian law.Copyright Act, here [austlii.edu.au] and here [austlii.edu.au].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31193820</id>
	<title>profit = no right to protest!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266500760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>i think, the issue is quite clear.... so long as the developer and distributor 'of anything' makes a profit off their work they have no room to argue that someone else has infringed on their rights. basically, if they can stay in business, they ought to just shut up!</p><p>the whole idea of copyrights wasn't to give an industry ultimate control over their own ability to maximize profits, especially not indefinitely. and anyone who whines cause they think they 'should' be making more money should be taken out and put down.</p><p>seriously, how petty must the corporate world get before things change? does Nintendo make games to make a profit, or does it make games so that people can enjoy them? if the earlier is true their right to do business should be revoked! making money may be required to stay in business, but making that the goal sets up a business to eventually act excessively selfish, greedy, or downright irresponsible.</p><p>case and point: they sued a smaller, nobody, company because the technology they produced was used for piracy--or could be, but they still refuse to provide adequate means for people to do the things that device legally allowed a user to do.</p><p>i've copied and given away ALL of my DVDs, CDs, and video games/systems. i believe wholeheartedly that maintaining a large collection of disks, cartridges, and entertainment systems is beyond irresponsible in a time where the construction and shipment of those items consumes so much better used non-renewable resources. the tonnage of plastic used to make those things, and now sitting on a shelf unused or in a land fill somewhere, is beyond unbelievable. let's not even consider the environmental cost of the energy needed to make them or the transportation fuel needed to get them to my home.</p><p>if the government had any sense at all, it would not only throw out any case brought against a company that allowed for the mass digital storage of otherwise individually sold items, but it would also either sue the pants off the developers for refusing to provide the same service, or simple provide the technology to the public itself via the development of a non-governmental non-profit organization simply in the hopes of limiting the future distribution of waste to their already overfilling landfills (they could use the money from the lawsuit to pay for the development of the non-profit manufacturer).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>i think , the issue is quite clear.... so long as the developer and distributor 'of anything ' makes a profit off their work they have no room to argue that someone else has infringed on their rights .
basically , if they can stay in business , they ought to just shut up ! the whole idea of copyrights was n't to give an industry ultimate control over their own ability to maximize profits , especially not indefinitely .
and anyone who whines cause they think they 'should ' be making more money should be taken out and put down.seriously , how petty must the corporate world get before things change ?
does Nintendo make games to make a profit , or does it make games so that people can enjoy them ?
if the earlier is true their right to do business should be revoked !
making money may be required to stay in business , but making that the goal sets up a business to eventually act excessively selfish , greedy , or downright irresponsible.case and point : they sued a smaller , nobody , company because the technology they produced was used for piracy--or could be , but they still refuse to provide adequate means for people to do the things that device legally allowed a user to do.i 've copied and given away ALL of my DVDs , CDs , and video games/systems .
i believe wholeheartedly that maintaining a large collection of disks , cartridges , and entertainment systems is beyond irresponsible in a time where the construction and shipment of those items consumes so much better used non-renewable resources .
the tonnage of plastic used to make those things , and now sitting on a shelf unused or in a land fill somewhere , is beyond unbelievable .
let 's not even consider the environmental cost of the energy needed to make them or the transportation fuel needed to get them to my home.if the government had any sense at all , it would not only throw out any case brought against a company that allowed for the mass digital storage of otherwise individually sold items , but it would also either sue the pants off the developers for refusing to provide the same service , or simple provide the technology to the public itself via the development of a non-governmental non-profit organization simply in the hopes of limiting the future distribution of waste to their already overfilling landfills ( they could use the money from the lawsuit to pay for the development of the non-profit manufacturer ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i think, the issue is quite clear.... so long as the developer and distributor 'of anything' makes a profit off their work they have no room to argue that someone else has infringed on their rights.
basically, if they can stay in business, they ought to just shut up!the whole idea of copyrights wasn't to give an industry ultimate control over their own ability to maximize profits, especially not indefinitely.
and anyone who whines cause they think they 'should' be making more money should be taken out and put down.seriously, how petty must the corporate world get before things change?
does Nintendo make games to make a profit, or does it make games so that people can enjoy them?
if the earlier is true their right to do business should be revoked!
making money may be required to stay in business, but making that the goal sets up a business to eventually act excessively selfish, greedy, or downright irresponsible.case and point: they sued a smaller, nobody, company because the technology they produced was used for piracy--or could be, but they still refuse to provide adequate means for people to do the things that device legally allowed a user to do.i've copied and given away ALL of my DVDs, CDs, and video games/systems.
i believe wholeheartedly that maintaining a large collection of disks, cartridges, and entertainment systems is beyond irresponsible in a time where the construction and shipment of those items consumes so much better used non-renewable resources.
the tonnage of plastic used to make those things, and now sitting on a shelf unused or in a land fill somewhere, is beyond unbelievable.
let's not even consider the environmental cost of the energy needed to make them or the transportation fuel needed to get them to my home.if the government had any sense at all, it would not only throw out any case brought against a company that allowed for the mass digital storage of otherwise individually sold items, but it would also either sue the pants off the developers for refusing to provide the same service, or simple provide the technology to the public itself via the development of a non-governmental non-profit organization simply in the hopes of limiting the future distribution of waste to their already overfilling landfills (they could use the money from the lawsuit to pay for the development of the non-profit manufacturer).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31188300</id>
	<title>Re:Just wait until they take a look at DSi carts</title>
	<author>noidentity</author>
	<datestamp>1266523260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Dude, the first rule of DSi carts is that we don't talk about DSi carts!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Dude , the first rule of DSi carts is that we do n't talk about DSi carts !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dude, the first rule of DSi carts is that we don't talk about DSi carts!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31184598</id>
	<title>Re:How the...</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1266509400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It isn't?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is n't ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It isn't?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182368</id>
	<title>TPM?</title>
	<author>bbqsrc</author>
	<datestamp>1266494880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'd like it if anyone could find "technical protection measure" actually defined within any Australian law.<br> <br>
Seriously, I don't think it's defined anywhere, and I'm sure that's grounds for appeal.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like it if anyone could find " technical protection measure " actually defined within any Australian law .
Seriously , I do n't think it 's defined anywhere , and I 'm sure that 's grounds for appeal .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like it if anyone could find "technical protection measure" actually defined within any Australian law.
Seriously, I don't think it's defined anywhere, and I'm sure that's grounds for appeal.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31185930</id>
	<title>Australian DMCA</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266514320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It looks like <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol\_act/ca1968133/s116ao.html" title="austlii.edu.au" rel="nofollow">their law</a> [austlii.edu.au] has the same essentially unpatchable hole as DMCA.  If you're in violation of the law when you use/distribute/manufacture things that are compatible with someone else's DRM, their <em>existing</em> implementation also becomes in violation if <em>you</em> ever produce a work that needs it.</p><p>Instead of making R4 chips, they should have made a game that requires an R4 chip first (just make sure you do it in such a way that you never license anything from Nintendo or otherwise give them permission to manufacture devices that protect your game).  Then make the chips, and when Nintendo comes a-suing, sue them right back for doing the exact same thing.  If they win, you win.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like their law [ austlii.edu.au ] has the same essentially unpatchable hole as DMCA .
If you 're in violation of the law when you use/distribute/manufacture things that are compatible with someone else 's DRM , their existing implementation also becomes in violation if you ever produce a work that needs it.Instead of making R4 chips , they should have made a game that requires an R4 chip first ( just make sure you do it in such a way that you never license anything from Nintendo or otherwise give them permission to manufacture devices that protect your game ) .
Then make the chips , and when Nintendo comes a-suing , sue them right back for doing the exact same thing .
If they win , you win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like their law [austlii.edu.au] has the same essentially unpatchable hole as DMCA.
If you're in violation of the law when you use/distribute/manufacture things that are compatible with someone else's DRM, their existing implementation also becomes in violation if you ever produce a work that needs it.Instead of making R4 chips, they should have made a game that requires an R4 chip first (just make sure you do it in such a way that you never license anything from Nintendo or otherwise give them permission to manufacture devices that protect your game).
Then make the chips, and when Nintendo comes a-suing, sue them right back for doing the exact same thing.
If they win, you win.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31186494</id>
	<title>Re:How the...</title>
	<author>Abcd1234</author>
	<datestamp>1266516540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's not, no.  It's just a cart with a microsd slot and the necessary electronics to convince the DS that the storage on that card represents a DS ROM.  It's a modchip in the same way that a CF -&gt; IDE adapter is a "modchip" for your computer.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's not , no .
It 's just a cart with a microsd slot and the necessary electronics to convince the DS that the storage on that card represents a DS ROM .
It 's a modchip in the same way that a CF - &gt; IDE adapter is a " modchip " for your computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not, no.
It's just a cart with a microsd slot and the necessary electronics to convince the DS that the storage on that card represents a DS ROM.
It's a modchip in the same way that a CF -&gt; IDE adapter is a "modchip" for your computer.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182484</id>
	<title>Sensationalism...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266496140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>OP should have made the post title more along the lines of "Nintendo Wins Lawsuit Over R4 Mod Chip Piracy in Australia" because unless Nintendo can get something done about it in China it's not really any win at all...  Shenzen anyone?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>OP should have made the post title more along the lines of " Nintendo Wins Lawsuit Over R4 Mod Chip Piracy in Australia " because unless Nintendo can get something done about it in China it 's not really any win at all... Shenzen anyone ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>OP should have made the post title more along the lines of "Nintendo Wins Lawsuit Over R4 Mod Chip Piracy in Australia" because unless Nintendo can get something done about it in China it's not really any win at all...  Shenzen anyone?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31183904</id>
	<title>Goerge Miller had it all backwards</title>
	<author>elrous0</author>
	<datestamp>1266506340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's funny now to go back and look at "Mad Max" and realize that the premise of that movie was that the future of Australia would involve too much lawlessness and a lack of legal enforcement (criminals going free, no law to protect citizens, etc.). Now here we are in the actual future and Australia of late is looking at actively censoring the internet, banning any videogame that shows blood, imposing criminal and civil sanctions on people for modding their videogame consoles, and even banning criticism of lawmakers. It seems that the Australia of 2010 turned out to be more of a police state than a free-wheeling lawless anarchy. Turns Tina Turner was right. We didn't really need Max at all.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's funny now to go back and look at " Mad Max " and realize that the premise of that movie was that the future of Australia would involve too much lawlessness and a lack of legal enforcement ( criminals going free , no law to protect citizens , etc. ) .
Now here we are in the actual future and Australia of late is looking at actively censoring the internet , banning any videogame that shows blood , imposing criminal and civil sanctions on people for modding their videogame consoles , and even banning criticism of lawmakers .
It seems that the Australia of 2010 turned out to be more of a police state than a free-wheeling lawless anarchy .
Turns Tina Turner was right .
We did n't really need Max at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's funny now to go back and look at "Mad Max" and realize that the premise of that movie was that the future of Australia would involve too much lawlessness and a lack of legal enforcement (criminals going free, no law to protect citizens, etc.).
Now here we are in the actual future and Australia of late is looking at actively censoring the internet, banning any videogame that shows blood, imposing criminal and civil sanctions on people for modding their videogame consoles, and even banning criticism of lawmakers.
It seems that the Australia of 2010 turned out to be more of a police state than a free-wheeling lawless anarchy.
Turns Tina Turner was right.
We didn't really need Max at all.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182360</id>
	<title>first</title>
	<author>FRAKK2</author>
	<datestamp>1266494820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>first</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>first</tokentext>
<sentencetext>first</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31183430</id>
	<title>It's your system</title>
	<author>Murdoch5</author>
	<datestamp>1266504060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>You should be allowed to do what ever you want to your system.  Are they going to sue me for putting a mod chip in my Game Cube?  Modding my SNES? Even modding my Gameboy.  If you paid for the system you can do what you want to it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You should be allowed to do what ever you want to your system .
Are they going to sue me for putting a mod chip in my Game Cube ?
Modding my SNES ?
Even modding my Gameboy .
If you paid for the system you can do what you want to it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You should be allowed to do what ever you want to your system.
Are they going to sue me for putting a mod chip in my Game Cube?
Modding my SNES?
Even modding my Gameboy.
If you paid for the system you can do what you want to it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182704</id>
	<title>Re:TPM?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266498480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It most obviously does NOT mean "technical measures which protects from running unauthorized code", because then the R4 wouldn't exist.</p><p>Any law defining "technical protection measure" must, by necessity, define that such measures are in fact not protecting anything.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It most obviously does NOT mean " technical measures which protects from running unauthorized code " , because then the R4 would n't exist.Any law defining " technical protection measure " must , by necessity , define that such measures are in fact not protecting anything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It most obviously does NOT mean "technical measures which protects from running unauthorized code", because then the R4 wouldn't exist.Any law defining "technical protection measure" must, by necessity, define that such measures are in fact not protecting anything.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31185552</id>
	<title>"It's my hardware..."</title>
	<author>boondaburrah</author>
	<datestamp>1266512820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Y'know, I was actually thinking about getting a DS, but now that I can't load up emulators for older systems (like my GameBoy Pocket) or homebrew games, I might have to get a PSP. It seems you can't have both a system that's well known for a good library of games, popular, and a system that's open to homebrew (officially or otherwise) in the same package. Of course, there's Windows, I guess - but I'm tired of dealing with all of the slight-little driver issues to full blown failures of my computer and such with PC gaming, and would like a console that's open for development without this app-store xbox-live approval (sdk costs money) nonsense. It would appear that game publishers would avoid a console like that like the plague though, for fear that someone will develop a "Game Backup Tool." Of course, if consoles create a legal, fair way to backup games and do homebrew, then there would be little to no reason to hack except for piracy. Unless you're hacking for hacking's sake, in which case you probably don't care about whatever online service they'll ban you from anyway.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Y'know , I was actually thinking about getting a DS , but now that I ca n't load up emulators for older systems ( like my GameBoy Pocket ) or homebrew games , I might have to get a PSP .
It seems you ca n't have both a system that 's well known for a good library of games , popular , and a system that 's open to homebrew ( officially or otherwise ) in the same package .
Of course , there 's Windows , I guess - but I 'm tired of dealing with all of the slight-little driver issues to full blown failures of my computer and such with PC gaming , and would like a console that 's open for development without this app-store xbox-live approval ( sdk costs money ) nonsense .
It would appear that game publishers would avoid a console like that like the plague though , for fear that someone will develop a " Game Backup Tool .
" Of course , if consoles create a legal , fair way to backup games and do homebrew , then there would be little to no reason to hack except for piracy .
Unless you 're hacking for hacking 's sake , in which case you probably do n't care about whatever online service they 'll ban you from anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Y'know, I was actually thinking about getting a DS, but now that I can't load up emulators for older systems (like my GameBoy Pocket) or homebrew games, I might have to get a PSP.
It seems you can't have both a system that's well known for a good library of games, popular, and a system that's open to homebrew (officially or otherwise) in the same package.
Of course, there's Windows, I guess - but I'm tired of dealing with all of the slight-little driver issues to full blown failures of my computer and such with PC gaming, and would like a console that's open for development without this app-store xbox-live approval (sdk costs money) nonsense.
It would appear that game publishers would avoid a console like that like the plague though, for fear that someone will develop a "Game Backup Tool.
" Of course, if consoles create a legal, fair way to backup games and do homebrew, then there would be little to no reason to hack except for piracy.
Unless you're hacking for hacking's sake, in which case you probably don't care about whatever online service they'll ban you from anyway.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31183444</id>
	<title>Re:Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>MBGMorden</author>
	<datestamp>1266504120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Homebrew software is a major component.  Before you laugh, I'll affirm that pretty much the only reason I modded my original Xbox was for running homebrew software - most specifically XBMC.  I've since switched to using Boxee running on an AppleTV, but there are people who will want to run homebrew software on their devices, and on a video game system that usually requires a mod-chip.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Homebrew software is a major component .
Before you laugh , I 'll affirm that pretty much the only reason I modded my original Xbox was for running homebrew software - most specifically XBMC .
I 've since switched to using Boxee running on an AppleTV , but there are people who will want to run homebrew software on their devices , and on a video game system that usually requires a mod-chip .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Homebrew software is a major component.
Before you laugh, I'll affirm that pretty much the only reason I modded my original Xbox was for running homebrew software - most specifically XBMC.
I've since switched to using Boxee running on an AppleTV, but there are people who will want to run homebrew software on their devices, and on a video game system that usually requires a mod-chip.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182404</id>
	<title>Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266495240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The distributor advises consumers to use their modification devices for legal reasons only, such as playing legal copies of games from different regions</p></div><p>Wait, what? I thought handhelds (both the Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS and PSP) weren't region-locked, but were in fact region-free. This allows people to play games from any region without having to resort to "chipping" their devices (which can often cause permanent damage). If the Nintendo DS is region-free, how could this be a legal purpose for this device? Or is it, in fact, region-locked?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The distributor advises consumers to use their modification devices for legal reasons only , such as playing legal copies of games from different regionsWait , what ?
I thought handhelds ( both the Gameboy Advance , Nintendo DS and PSP ) were n't region-locked , but were in fact region-free .
This allows people to play games from any region without having to resort to " chipping " their devices ( which can often cause permanent damage ) .
If the Nintendo DS is region-free , how could this be a legal purpose for this device ?
Or is it , in fact , region-locked ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The distributor advises consumers to use their modification devices for legal reasons only, such as playing legal copies of games from different regionsWait, what?
I thought handhelds (both the Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS and PSP) weren't region-locked, but were in fact region-free.
This allows people to play games from any region without having to resort to "chipping" their devices (which can often cause permanent damage).
If the Nintendo DS is region-free, how could this be a legal purpose for this device?
Or is it, in fact, region-locked?
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	<title>Thankyou for reading at -1</title>
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	<datestamp>1266495060000</datestamp>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182712</id>
	<title>Re:TPM?</title>
	<author>rjch</author>
	<datestamp>1266498540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Never mind the "technical protection measure".  There's enough <a href="http://www.ps3focus.com/archives/132" title="ps3focus.com">precedent</a> [ps3focus.com] alone for an appeal...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Never mind the " technical protection measure " .
There 's enough precedent [ ps3focus.com ] alone for an appeal.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Never mind the "technical protection measure".
There's enough precedent [ps3focus.com] alone for an appeal...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31187794</id>
	<title>Re:Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1266521640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think they're making assumptions. There is most likely some sort of protection on DS games but not for different regions.
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The one exception is if it's a DSI specific game then it will have region protection.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think they 're making assumptions .
There is most likely some sort of protection on DS games but not for different regions .
The one exception is if it 's a DSI specific game then it will have region protection .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think they're making assumptions.
There is most likely some sort of protection on DS games but not for different regions.
The one exception is if it's a DSI specific game then it will have region protection.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31185818</id>
	<title>Copyrighted boot sector under U.S. law</title>
	<author>tepples</author>
	<datestamp>1266513840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>If that isn't a lawsuit in the making then I don't know what is.</p></div><p>I don't know much about copyright law in Australia, but at least in the United States, an argument from a copyrighted boot sector doesn't hold legal water, not even after the DMCA. See <i>Sega v. Accolade</i> and <i>Lexmark v. Static Control Components</i>.</p></div>
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<tokenext>If that is n't a lawsuit in the making then I do n't know what is.I do n't know much about copyright law in Australia , but at least in the United States , an argument from a copyrighted boot sector does n't hold legal water , not even after the DMCA .
See Sega v. Accolade and Lexmark v. Static Control Components .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If that isn't a lawsuit in the making then I don't know what is.I don't know much about copyright law in Australia, but at least in the United States, an argument from a copyrighted boot sector doesn't hold legal water, not even after the DMCA.
See Sega v. Accolade and Lexmark v. Static Control Components.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31183218</id>
	<title>You're forgetting rule #1</title>
	<author>Moryath</author>
	<datestamp>1266502800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You're forgetting rule #1 of law: He who has enough money to buy off a judge, decides what the legal opinion will be.</p><p>I'm sure the judge is enjoying his new Wii-shaped swimming pool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're forgetting rule # 1 of law : He who has enough money to buy off a judge , decides what the legal opinion will be.I 'm sure the judge is enjoying his new Wii-shaped swimming pool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're forgetting rule #1 of law: He who has enough money to buy off a judge, decides what the legal opinion will be.I'm sure the judge is enjoying his new Wii-shaped swimming pool.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182644</id>
	<title>Re:Just wait until they take a look at DSi carts</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1266498000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Nintendo started signing all executables and retroactively signing the existing library of DS games (they include the hashes built in to the DSi firmware), so the only way you can get an unofficial DS cart to run on the DSi is by pirating a game's executable/header and partial data and then using a data file exploit (data files aren't signed) to make it bootstrap your code.</p></div><p>In the USA this is not lawsuit fodder because of <em>Sega v. Accolade</em>. In Australia, you're still screwed.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Nintendo started signing all executables and retroactively signing the existing library of DS games ( they include the hashes built in to the DSi firmware ) , so the only way you can get an unofficial DS cart to run on the DSi is by pirating a game 's executable/header and partial data and then using a data file exploit ( data files are n't signed ) to make it bootstrap your code.In the USA this is not lawsuit fodder because of Sega v. Accolade. In Australia , you 're still screwed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nintendo started signing all executables and retroactively signing the existing library of DS games (they include the hashes built in to the DSi firmware), so the only way you can get an unofficial DS cart to run on the DSi is by pirating a game's executable/header and partial data and then using a data file exploit (data files aren't signed) to make it bootstrap your code.In the USA this is not lawsuit fodder because of Sega v. Accolade. In Australia, you're still screwed.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31183634</id>
	<title>Softmod anybody?</title>
	<author>blake1</author>
	<datestamp>1266504900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Does anyone actually use Modchips on their Wii any more?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Does anyone actually use Modchips on their Wii any more ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Does anyone actually use Modchips on their Wii any more?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31184646</id>
	<title>Did Nintendo kill the DS Mod community?</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1266509520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wrote a fairly popular DS app a few years ago, but I saw the writing on the wall for this platform.  Between Nintendo making it harder to get these chips, and cell phones becoming more open, I don't see much point in writing for the DS.  It's a shame: I think Nintendo could be where Apple is today with the iPhone, had they opened the DS.  It had so much potential.  Now, it is simply out of date.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wrote a fairly popular DS app a few years ago , but I saw the writing on the wall for this platform .
Between Nintendo making it harder to get these chips , and cell phones becoming more open , I do n't see much point in writing for the DS .
It 's a shame : I think Nintendo could be where Apple is today with the iPhone , had they opened the DS .
It had so much potential .
Now , it is simply out of date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wrote a fairly popular DS app a few years ago, but I saw the writing on the wall for this platform.
Between Nintendo making it harder to get these chips, and cell phones becoming more open, I don't see much point in writing for the DS.
It's a shame: I think Nintendo could be where Apple is today with the iPhone, had they opened the DS.
It had so much potential.
Now, it is simply out of date.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182608</id>
	<title>Dear R4,</title>
	<author>V!NCENT</author>
	<datestamp>1266497400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dear R4,</p><p>We are going to sue you because you make cardridges that fit into our Nintendo DS product that can read out images on MicroSD cards.</p><p>We are unhappy with this because we are a company and we like to make as much money as we can and software pirates are abusing the functionality to run pirated copies of Nintendo DS games. Therefore we think that you need to pay us a shitload of money and not the people that pirate.</p><p>Addholes as always,<br>
Nintendo Inc.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dear R4,We are going to sue you because you make cardridges that fit into our Nintendo DS product that can read out images on MicroSD cards.We are unhappy with this because we are a company and we like to make as much money as we can and software pirates are abusing the functionality to run pirated copies of Nintendo DS games .
Therefore we think that you need to pay us a shitload of money and not the people that pirate.Addholes as always , Nintendo Inc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dear R4,We are going to sue you because you make cardridges that fit into our Nintendo DS product that can read out images on MicroSD cards.We are unhappy with this because we are a company and we like to make as much money as we can and software pirates are abusing the functionality to run pirated copies of Nintendo DS games.
Therefore we think that you need to pay us a shitload of money and not the people that pirate.Addholes as always,
Nintendo Inc.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31186364</id>
	<title>freedom  protection</title>
	<author>sixsixtysix</author>
	<datestamp>1266516000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>i don't care if 99\% use something for piracy, the other 1\% should never be affected. i should be allowed to tinker with whatever i buy, and if i can do something myself, i should be able to pay someone else to do it for me, whether it be modding my own hardware(or am i licensing the hardware?) or archiving my legally purchased media to whatever format i choose(seeing as i am allowed to record and archive content off the tv, why can't i use the internet as a dvr?).<br>
what's even more ridiculous is the bullshit development licensing consoles have in the first place. anyone for that system, would have to be for development licensing fees on windows, linux, mac, etc. they are all computers ffs!</htmltext>
<tokenext>i do n't care if 99 \ % use something for piracy , the other 1 \ % should never be affected .
i should be allowed to tinker with whatever i buy , and if i can do something myself , i should be able to pay someone else to do it for me , whether it be modding my own hardware ( or am i licensing the hardware ?
) or archiving my legally purchased media to whatever format i choose ( seeing as i am allowed to record and archive content off the tv , why ca n't i use the internet as a dvr ? ) .
what 's even more ridiculous is the bullshit development licensing consoles have in the first place .
anyone for that system , would have to be for development licensing fees on windows , linux , mac , etc .
they are all computers ffs !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>i don't care if 99\% use something for piracy, the other 1\% should never be affected.
i should be allowed to tinker with whatever i buy, and if i can do something myself, i should be able to pay someone else to do it for me, whether it be modding my own hardware(or am i licensing the hardware?
) or archiving my legally purchased media to whatever format i choose(seeing as i am allowed to record and archive content off the tv, why can't i use the internet as a dvr?).
what's even more ridiculous is the bullshit development licensing consoles have in the first place.
anyone for that system, would have to be for development licensing fees on windows, linux, mac, etc.
they are all computers ffs!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31185236</id>
	<title>Re:Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>Hatta</author>
	<datestamp>1266511740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There's a couple of reasons.  First, homebrew.  You can use your DS as a decent MP3 player, or even video player (with transcoding).  There are also apps to take notes, read ebooks, etc. etc. There's even a handy scrabble dictionary, and some homebrew games available. (Amazingly, Quake runs pretty well on the DS.)  A French court recently ruled that flash carts were <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/04/nintendo-loses-ds-flash-cart-case-in-french-court/" title="engadget.com">legal</a> [engadget.com] for homebrew purposes.</p><p>There's also convenience.  It's just easier to carry one card with your entire collection of DS games instead of juggling a dozen carts when you travel.</p><p>That said, there's plenty of illicit uses for such a device as well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a couple of reasons .
First , homebrew .
You can use your DS as a decent MP3 player , or even video player ( with transcoding ) .
There are also apps to take notes , read ebooks , etc .
etc. There 's even a handy scrabble dictionary , and some homebrew games available .
( Amazingly , Quake runs pretty well on the DS .
) A French court recently ruled that flash carts were legal [ engadget.com ] for homebrew purposes.There 's also convenience .
It 's just easier to carry one card with your entire collection of DS games instead of juggling a dozen carts when you travel.That said , there 's plenty of illicit uses for such a device as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a couple of reasons.
First, homebrew.
You can use your DS as a decent MP3 player, or even video player (with transcoding).
There are also apps to take notes, read ebooks, etc.
etc. There's even a handy scrabble dictionary, and some homebrew games available.
(Amazingly, Quake runs pretty well on the DS.
)  A French court recently ruled that flash carts were legal [engadget.com] for homebrew purposes.There's also convenience.
It's just easier to carry one card with your entire collection of DS games instead of juggling a dozen carts when you travel.That said, there's plenty of illicit uses for such a device as well.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182442</id>
	<title>Re:Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266495660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Apparently <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo\_DS#Regional\_division" title="wikipedia.org">the DS is region free</a> [wikipedia.org] so that's one legal defense out the window.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently the DS is region free [ wikipedia.org ] so that 's one legal defense out the window .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently the DS is region free [wikipedia.org] so that's one legal defense out the window.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31184732</id>
	<title>Re:Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>Wumpus</author>
	<datestamp>1266509820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have an R4 which I use to load my own code to the DS. I never used it to play pirated ROMs. The R4 does have legitimate uses as a development tool.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have an R4 which I use to load my own code to the DS .
I never used it to play pirated ROMs .
The R4 does have legitimate uses as a development tool .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have an R4 which I use to load my own code to the DS.
I never used it to play pirated ROMs.
The R4 does have legitimate uses as a development tool.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182998</id>
	<title>How the...</title>
	<author>Pojut</author>
	<datestamp>1266501420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Considering this is Slashdot, how has no one explicitely pointed out that the R4 isn't a modchip?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Considering this is Slashdot , how has no one explicitely pointed out that the R4 is n't a modchip ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Considering this is Slashdot, how has no one explicitely pointed out that the R4 isn't a modchip?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31186516</id>
	<title>Re:Feh</title>
	<author>Again</author>
	<datestamp>1266516600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>While in the long run it should be ethical to mod a piece of hardware you bought yourself, I gotta admit I can list off about 16 people who all own DS's and Modchips, and half of them have yet to pay for a legal copy of a game for the DS.  The other half run *mostly* modded games.  None of them use the R4 for any legal 3rd party applications.</p></div><p>Same here.  Even my fellow computer science friends that have flash carts use them almost entirely for pirating games.  I have read on this page that there are some people who don't use the flash cart for pirating games but not pirating is very much the minority.</p><p>There would be very little demand for the flash carts if they were only used simply for homebrew.</p><p>Call me an ethical egoist but I've avoided buying myself a flash cart simply because of the piracy associated with it.  I do not think that Nintendo made a good decision by going against the chip maker.  But hunting down the individuals is not realistic either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>While in the long run it should be ethical to mod a piece of hardware you bought yourself , I got ta admit I can list off about 16 people who all own DS 's and Modchips , and half of them have yet to pay for a legal copy of a game for the DS .
The other half run * mostly * modded games .
None of them use the R4 for any legal 3rd party applications.Same here .
Even my fellow computer science friends that have flash carts use them almost entirely for pirating games .
I have read on this page that there are some people who do n't use the flash cart for pirating games but not pirating is very much the minority.There would be very little demand for the flash carts if they were only used simply for homebrew.Call me an ethical egoist but I 've avoided buying myself a flash cart simply because of the piracy associated with it .
I do not think that Nintendo made a good decision by going against the chip maker .
But hunting down the individuals is not realistic either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While in the long run it should be ethical to mod a piece of hardware you bought yourself, I gotta admit I can list off about 16 people who all own DS's and Modchips, and half of them have yet to pay for a legal copy of a game for the DS.
The other half run *mostly* modded games.
None of them use the R4 for any legal 3rd party applications.Same here.
Even my fellow computer science friends that have flash carts use them almost entirely for pirating games.
I have read on this page that there are some people who don't use the flash cart for pirating games but not pirating is very much the minority.There would be very little demand for the flash carts if they were only used simply for homebrew.Call me an ethical egoist but I've avoided buying myself a flash cart simply because of the piracy associated with it.
I do not think that Nintendo made a good decision by going against the chip maker.
But hunting down the individuals is not realistic either.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31187880</id>
	<title>Re:Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1266521880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>DSI only games have region protection. If the R4 is used for those then they have a point.</htmltext>
<tokenext>DSI only games have region protection .
If the R4 is used for those then they have a point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>DSI only games have region protection.
If the R4 is used for those then they have a point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182534</id>
	<title>Re:Games from different regions?</title>
	<author>KronicD</author>
	<datestamp>1266496620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, thats the legal protection most mod chip providers use in Australia.

I got myself through uni by modding consoles and working helpdesk. I never touched a region free console like the DS or PSP, for this exact reason.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , thats the legal protection most mod chip providers use in Australia .
I got myself through uni by modding consoles and working helpdesk .
I never touched a region free console like the DS or PSP , for this exact reason .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, thats the legal protection most mod chip providers use in Australia.
I got myself through uni by modding consoles and working helpdesk.
I never touched a region free console like the DS or PSP, for this exact reason.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31188254</id>
	<title>Digital Pesantry</title>
	<author>kenp2002</author>
	<datestamp>1266523200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wasn't the concepts of First Sale Doctrine (which is hardly an American in origin) supposed to protect against this Digital Pesantry? Next thing you know Pepsi will be suing people for improperly drinking their soda due to EULA viloations (Must be served cold in a Pepsi branded glass with 6.8 ounces of ice per 1/5th litre of soda.)</p><p>There is nothing now preventing ANY manufacturer prohibiting  any non-sanctions periphrials. Nope you can only use SONY headphones with our Sony Walkmans, you can only use Ford manufactured tires on a Ford, you can only use the king's paper for legal documents... err wait... we did do that... didn't the Americans fight a war over that kind of behavior?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Was n't the concepts of First Sale Doctrine ( which is hardly an American in origin ) supposed to protect against this Digital Pesantry ?
Next thing you know Pepsi will be suing people for improperly drinking their soda due to EULA viloations ( Must be served cold in a Pepsi branded glass with 6.8 ounces of ice per 1/5th litre of soda .
) There is nothing now preventing ANY manufacturer prohibiting any non-sanctions periphrials .
Nope you can only use SONY headphones with our Sony Walkmans , you can only use Ford manufactured tires on a Ford , you can only use the king 's paper for legal documents... err wait... we did do that... did n't the Americans fight a war over that kind of behavior ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wasn't the concepts of First Sale Doctrine (which is hardly an American in origin) supposed to protect against this Digital Pesantry?
Next thing you know Pepsi will be suing people for improperly drinking their soda due to EULA viloations (Must be served cold in a Pepsi branded glass with 6.8 ounces of ice per 1/5th litre of soda.
)There is nothing now preventing ANY manufacturer prohibiting  any non-sanctions periphrials.
Nope you can only use SONY headphones with our Sony Walkmans, you can only use Ford manufactured tires on a Ford, you can only use the king's paper for legal documents... err wait... we did do that... didn't the Americans fight a war over that kind of behavior?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31183668</id>
	<title>Re:How come the usual BS didn't work?</title>
	<author>nedlohs</author>
	<datestamp>1266505020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There were two reasons that modchips were OK in Australia.</p><p>1. Australian law allows importing of content from overseas and circumvention of "region locking".</p><p>2. The courts accepted the argument that the law said you can't work around devices designed "to prevent or inhibit the infringement of copyright" and modchips only allowed playing copies not making copies. Playing a copy isn't copyright infringement, making the copy is so there was no "protection measure" involved and so the law against circumventing them didn't apply.</p><p>But in this case:</p><p>1. Does not apply, there is no region locking so you don't need this device in order to play imported games.</p><p>2. Parliament changed the law a few years ago to  make "protection measures" include those which allow "unauthorised use".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There were two reasons that modchips were OK in Australia.1 .
Australian law allows importing of content from overseas and circumvention of " region locking " .2 .
The courts accepted the argument that the law said you ca n't work around devices designed " to prevent or inhibit the infringement of copyright " and modchips only allowed playing copies not making copies .
Playing a copy is n't copyright infringement , making the copy is so there was no " protection measure " involved and so the law against circumventing them did n't apply.But in this case : 1 .
Does not apply , there is no region locking so you do n't need this device in order to play imported games.2 .
Parliament changed the law a few years ago to make " protection measures " include those which allow " unauthorised use " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There were two reasons that modchips were OK in Australia.1.
Australian law allows importing of content from overseas and circumvention of "region locking".2.
The courts accepted the argument that the law said you can't work around devices designed "to prevent or inhibit the infringement of copyright" and modchips only allowed playing copies not making copies.
Playing a copy isn't copyright infringement, making the copy is so there was no "protection measure" involved and so the law against circumventing them didn't apply.But in this case:1.
Does not apply, there is no region locking so you don't need this device in order to play imported games.2.
Parliament changed the law a few years ago to  make "protection measures" include those which allow "unauthorised use".</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31183766</id>
	<title>W00T 7p</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266505560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>compl3tely before</htmltext>
<tokenext>compl3tely before</tokentext>
<sentencetext>compl3tely before</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182478</id>
	<title>Just wait until they take a look at DSi carts</title>
	<author>marcansoft</author>
	<datestamp>1266496080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Every single DSi-compatible DS cart, <a href="http://hackmii.com/2010/02/lawsuit-coming-in-3-2-1/" title="hackmii.com">including Datel's Action Replay DSi</a> [hackmii.com], includes portions of a pirated cart ROM. Nintendo started signing all executables and retroactively signing the existing library of DS games (they include the hashes built in to the DSi firmware), so the only way you can get an unofficial DS cart to run on the DSi is by pirating a game's executable/header and partial data and then using a data file exploit (data files aren't signed) to make it bootstrap your code. These DSi-compatible cartridges even show up with the game icon of a real game in the menu, since that part is also signed.</p><p>If that isn't a lawsuit in the making then I don't know what is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Every single DSi-compatible DS cart , including Datel 's Action Replay DSi [ hackmii.com ] , includes portions of a pirated cart ROM .
Nintendo started signing all executables and retroactively signing the existing library of DS games ( they include the hashes built in to the DSi firmware ) , so the only way you can get an unofficial DS cart to run on the DSi is by pirating a game 's executable/header and partial data and then using a data file exploit ( data files are n't signed ) to make it bootstrap your code .
These DSi-compatible cartridges even show up with the game icon of a real game in the menu , since that part is also signed.If that is n't a lawsuit in the making then I do n't know what is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Every single DSi-compatible DS cart, including Datel's Action Replay DSi [hackmii.com], includes portions of a pirated cart ROM.
Nintendo started signing all executables and retroactively signing the existing library of DS games (they include the hashes built in to the DSi firmware), so the only way you can get an unofficial DS cart to run on the DSi is by pirating a game's executable/header and partial data and then using a data file exploit (data files aren't signed) to make it bootstrap your code.
These DSi-compatible cartridges even show up with the game icon of a real game in the menu, since that part is also signed.If that isn't a lawsuit in the making then I don't know what is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0646211.31182440</id>
	<title>How come the usual BS didn't work?</title>
	<author>aussie\_a</author>
	<datestamp>1266495600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Modding consoles, selling chips to mod consoles and selling services to mod consoles have been deemed legal in Australia in the past due to the justification that they allow you to play backed up versions of games you've legally bought. Of course this is a valid reason to want to mod a console, but its also a "nudge nudge, wink wink" situation as the people who would actually mod their console <b>only</b> for playing backed up versions of their game would be in the extreme minority.</p><p>But this bullshit justification has always been enough in the past to stop people from facing the consequences of selling chips to get around DRM in consoles. So how come the excuse didn't work this time? Is it because its a civil trial? I understand the burden of proof is much less in civil, but if this was a successful avenue for corporations to take, I'm sure Sony would have done it years ago with the original Playstation. Did the defendants in this case mess up and get caught actively encouraging people to use their chip to pirate games?</p><p>I RTFA, but it was completely silent on how Nintendo managed to win this court case.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Modding consoles , selling chips to mod consoles and selling services to mod consoles have been deemed legal in Australia in the past due to the justification that they allow you to play backed up versions of games you 've legally bought .
Of course this is a valid reason to want to mod a console , but its also a " nudge nudge , wink wink " situation as the people who would actually mod their console only for playing backed up versions of their game would be in the extreme minority.But this bullshit justification has always been enough in the past to stop people from facing the consequences of selling chips to get around DRM in consoles .
So how come the excuse did n't work this time ?
Is it because its a civil trial ?
I understand the burden of proof is much less in civil , but if this was a successful avenue for corporations to take , I 'm sure Sony would have done it years ago with the original Playstation .
Did the defendants in this case mess up and get caught actively encouraging people to use their chip to pirate games ? I RTFA , but it was completely silent on how Nintendo managed to win this court case .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Modding consoles, selling chips to mod consoles and selling services to mod consoles have been deemed legal in Australia in the past due to the justification that they allow you to play backed up versions of games you've legally bought.
Of course this is a valid reason to want to mod a console, but its also a "nudge nudge, wink wink" situation as the people who would actually mod their console only for playing backed up versions of their game would be in the extreme minority.But this bullshit justification has always been enough in the past to stop people from facing the consequences of selling chips to get around DRM in consoles.
So how come the excuse didn't work this time?
Is it because its a civil trial?
I understand the burden of proof is much less in civil, but if this was a successful avenue for corporations to take, I'm sure Sony would have done it years ago with the original Playstation.
Did the defendants in this case mess up and get caught actively encouraging people to use their chip to pirate games?I RTFA, but it was completely silent on how Nintendo managed to win this court case.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Feh</title>
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	<htmltext>While in the long run it should be ethical to mod a piece of hardware you bought yourself, I gotta admit I can list off about 16 people who all own DS's and Modchips, and half of them have yet to pay for a legal copy of a game for the DS.  The other half run *mostly* modded games.  None of them use the R4 for any legal 3rd party applications.</htmltext>
<tokenext>While in the long run it should be ethical to mod a piece of hardware you bought yourself , I got ta admit I can list off about 16 people who all own DS 's and Modchips , and half of them have yet to pay for a legal copy of a game for the DS .
The other half run * mostly * modded games .
None of them use the R4 for any legal 3rd party applications .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While in the long run it should be ethical to mod a piece of hardware you bought yourself, I gotta admit I can list off about 16 people who all own DS's and Modchips, and half of them have yet to pay for a legal copy of a game for the DS.
The other half run *mostly* modded games.
None of them use the R4 for any legal 3rd party applications.</sentencetext>
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