<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_18_0333212</id>
	<title>Microsoft RickRolls Wi-Fi Network Leechers</title>
	<author>samzenpus</author>
	<datestamp>1266484380000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"Microsoft has revealed that it <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/167543,microsoft-rickrolls-network-leechers.aspx"> RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference Wi-Fi network last year</a> by torrenting large files. Network administrators at the event quickly built a list of all of the top torrent trackers around and got the nod to add them all to the local DNS resolver and point them at a local Web server containing some Rick Roll scripts. According to the  admin: 'It killed me that I didn't see anyone getting done by this first hand, but there were <a href="http://www.techedbackstage.net/2010/02/18/never-gonna-give-you-up/">hundreds of impressions in the server logs containing the Rick Roll scripts</a> so I did get a fair amount of satisfaction at least. It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too &mdash; worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past.' Fun and games aside, it looks like the leechers will force quotas and traffic shaping for the first time in the event's history."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " Microsoft has revealed that it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference Wi-Fi network last year by torrenting large files .
Network administrators at the event quickly built a list of all of the top torrent trackers around and got the nod to add them all to the local DNS resolver and point them at a local Web server containing some Rick Roll scripts .
According to the admin : 'It killed me that I did n't see anyone getting done by this first hand , but there were hundreds of impressions in the server logs containing the Rick Roll scripts so I did get a fair amount of satisfaction at least .
It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too    worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past .
' Fun and games aside , it looks like the leechers will force quotas and traffic shaping for the first time in the event 's history .
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<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft has revealed that it  RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference Wi-Fi network last year by torrenting large files.
Network administrators at the event quickly built a list of all of the top torrent trackers around and got the nod to add them all to the local DNS resolver and point them at a local Web server containing some Rick Roll scripts.
According to the  admin: 'It killed me that I didn't see anyone getting done by this first hand, but there were hundreds of impressions in the server logs containing the Rick Roll scripts so I did get a fair amount of satisfaction at least.
It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too — worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past.
' Fun and games aside, it looks like the leechers will force quotas and traffic shaping for the first time in the event's history.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182778</id>
	<title>why didn't they release the utility for ipnat.sys?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266499380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they had to write a utility to pull ip addresses from the NAT table, oddly enough the developer in India couldn't upload the fix because if *network problems*<br>they should of at least posted the binary to dump the contents from the ipnat.sys. it's probably some kind of RPC call.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they had to write a utility to pull ip addresses from the NAT table , oddly enough the developer in India could n't upload the fix because if * network problems * they should of at least posted the binary to dump the contents from the ipnat.sys .
it 's probably some kind of RPC call .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they had to write a utility to pull ip addresses from the NAT table, oddly enough the developer in India couldn't upload the fix because if *network problems*they should of at least posted the binary to dump the contents from the ipnat.sys.
it's probably some kind of RPC call.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182872</id>
	<title>wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266500400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too -- worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past."</p><p>correct me if i'm wrong, but rickrolling implies its just rick astley singing about how he won't let you down, right?</p><p>so what the heck is he referring to in the quote above? did they distribute 1080p video of ballmer in his underwear singing karaoke and throwing chairs?</p><p>speaking of which, a GIS for ballmer is not exactly flattering</p><p><a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=ballmer" title="google.com">http://images.google.com/images?q=ballmer</a> [google.com]</p><p>who would have guessed a GOOGLE image search wouldn't be flattering to steve ballmer?</p><p>i wonder what a bing image search for ballmer would... jesus what am i doing, better stop now before i run into rule 34</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too -- worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past .
" correct me if i 'm wrong , but rickrolling implies its just rick astley singing about how he wo n't let you down , right ? so what the heck is he referring to in the quote above ?
did they distribute 1080p video of ballmer in his underwear singing karaoke and throwing chairs ? speaking of which , a GIS for ballmer is not exactly flatteringhttp : //images.google.com/images ? q = ballmer [ google.com ] who would have guessed a GOOGLE image search would n't be flattering to steve ballmer ? i wonder what a bing image search for ballmer would... jesus what am i doing , better stop now before i run into rule 34</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"It was the most evil of evil Rick Roll scripts too -- worse than any that anyone has used to get me in the past.
"correct me if i'm wrong, but rickrolling implies its just rick astley singing about how he won't let you down, right?so what the heck is he referring to in the quote above?
did they distribute 1080p video of ballmer in his underwear singing karaoke and throwing chairs?speaking of which, a GIS for ballmer is not exactly flatteringhttp://images.google.com/images?q=ballmer [google.com]who would have guessed a GOOGLE image search wouldn't be flattering to steve ballmer?i wonder what a bing image search for ballmer would... jesus what am i doing, better stop now before i run into rule 34
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181742</id>
	<title>3...2...1...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266488160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ASCII goatse in 3...2...1...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ASCII goatse in 3...2...1.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ASCII goatse in 3...2...1...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182282</id>
	<title>Re:Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266493860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*** Now talking in #christian<br>-Word\_of\_God- Welcome Abstruse to #christian I am a Bible Bot. For more info type:<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/msg Word\_of\_God !info<br>
&nbsp; !kjv numbers 22:21<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp; Numbers 22:21 -- And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab. -  (KJV)<br>*** SageRider sets mode: +b *!*@c211-30-208-111.rivrw3.nsw.optusnet.com.au<br>*** Word\_of\_God was kicked from #christian by SageRider (Please dont Swear)<br>
&nbsp; I know I'm never going to be able to come back in this channel again after this, but damn was it worth it to see that...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* * * Now talking in # christian-Word \ _of \ _God- Welcome Abstruse to # christian I am a Bible Bot .
For more info type : /msg Word \ _of \ _God ! info   ! kjv numbers 22 : 21     Numbers 22 : 21 -- And Balaam rose up in the morning , and saddled his ass , and went with the princes of Moab .
- ( KJV ) * * * SageRider sets mode : + b * !
* @ c211-30-208-111.rivrw3.nsw.optusnet.com.au * * * Word \ _of \ _God was kicked from # christian by SageRider ( Please dont Swear )   I know I 'm never going to be able to come back in this channel again after this , but damn was it worth it to see that.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*** Now talking in #christian-Word\_of\_God- Welcome Abstruse to #christian I am a Bible Bot.
For more info type: /msg Word\_of\_God !info
  !kjv numbers 22:21
    Numbers 22:21 -- And Balaam rose up in the morning, and saddled his ass, and went with the princes of Moab.
-  (KJV)*** SageRider sets mode: +b *!
*@c211-30-208-111.rivrw3.nsw.optusnet.com.au*** Word\_of\_God was kicked from #christian by SageRider (Please dont Swear)
  I know I'm never going to be able to come back in this channel again after this, but damn was it worth it to see that...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31186558</id>
	<title>Re:Lame</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266516840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whoosh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whoosh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whoosh.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31185506</id>
	<title>Re:Redirecting trackers</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266512640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Also, I thought BT clients used checksums on the parts/pieces of the torrent'd files, so I'm having a lot of trouble seeing how this actually worked.</p><p>All it would do is have a lot of rejected pieces, not that the data would have been actually accepted as legitimate.  They wouldn't actually get an actual file, would they?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , I thought BT clients used checksums on the parts/pieces of the torrent 'd files , so I 'm having a lot of trouble seeing how this actually worked.All it would do is have a lot of rejected pieces , not that the data would have been actually accepted as legitimate .
They would n't actually get an actual file , would they ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, I thought BT clients used checksums on the parts/pieces of the torrent'd files, so I'm having a lot of trouble seeing how this actually worked.All it would do is have a lot of rejected pieces, not that the data would have been actually accepted as legitimate.
They wouldn't actually get an actual file, would they?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182272</id>
	<title>Re:Please tell me...</title>
	<author>xorsyst</author>
	<datestamp>1266493680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not very much...<br><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/5130427/Pete-Waterman-I-was-exploited-by-Google.html" title="telegraph.co.uk">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/5130427/Pete-Waterman-I-was-exploited-by-Google.html</a> [telegraph.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not very much...http : //www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/5130427/Pete-Waterman-I-was-exploited-by-Google.html [ telegraph.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not very much...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/5130427/Pete-Waterman-I-was-exploited-by-Google.html [telegraph.co.uk]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181802</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31185432</id>
	<title>Re:Been Slashdotted</title>
	<author>Velorium</author>
	<datestamp>1266512340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agreed, I love it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agreed , I love it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agreed, I love it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184354</id>
	<title>Re:Evil</title>
	<author>sycorob</author>
	<datestamp>1266508320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Am I the only one that's terrified to click on any links here?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Am I the only one that 's terrified to click on any links here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Am I the only one that's terrified to click on any links here?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181838</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31187150</id>
	<title>Re:why?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266519540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>on what morally or philosophically coherent grounds does it make any sense to you that a song from the 1987 should still be earning anyone any money?</p></div><p>The author is still alive and it was his work product. People deserve the fruit of their labor.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>on what morally or philosophically coherent grounds does it make any sense to you that a song from the 1987 should still be earning anyone any money ? The author is still alive and it was his work product .
People deserve the fruit of their labor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on what morally or philosophically coherent grounds does it make any sense to you that a song from the 1987 should still be earning anyone any money?The author is still alive and it was his work product.
People deserve the fruit of their labor.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183296</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181802</id>
	<title>Please tell me...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266488640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>that whoever owns the rights to "Never Gonna Give You Up" is receiving royalties.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>that whoever owns the rights to " Never Gon na Give You Up " is receiving royalties .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>that whoever owns the rights to "Never Gonna Give You Up" is receiving royalties.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181984</id>
	<title>Lame</title>
	<author>kregg</author>
	<datestamp>1266490380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rick Rolling is so last year....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rick Rolling is so last year... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rick Rolling is so last year....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183858</id>
	<title>Re:Just for fun</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266506160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Who cares, only 1 guy will get to see it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Who cares , only 1 guy will get to see it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Who cares, only 1 guy will get to see it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31188212</id>
	<title>Re:Evil</title>
	<author>tlon</author>
	<datestamp>1266523020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I feel a Bastard Operator from Hell entry coming from this</htmltext>
<tokenext>I feel a Bastard Operator from Hell entry coming from this</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I feel a Bastard Operator from Hell entry coming from this</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181838</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183770</id>
	<title>Corporate image</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1266505560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>  So basically they underestimated the bandwidth that would be required on the network access they provided, and therefore felt that gave them the right to interfere with communications on the network and actually trick the users into downloading unwanted content? Nice. Yes this helps the Microsoft image no end. No wonder they have this attitude that your computer belongs to them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So basically they underestimated the bandwidth that would be required on the network access they provided , and therefore felt that gave them the right to interfere with communications on the network and actually trick the users into downloading unwanted content ?
Nice. Yes this helps the Microsoft image no end .
No wonder they have this attitude that your computer belongs to them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>  So basically they underestimated the bandwidth that would be required on the network access they provided, and therefore felt that gave them the right to interfere with communications on the network and actually trick the users into downloading unwanted content?
Nice. Yes this helps the Microsoft image no end.
No wonder they have this attitude that your computer belongs to them.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181752</id>
	<title>It could have been worse...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266488280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>At least it wasn't Soulja Boy.</htmltext>
<tokenext>At least it was n't Soulja Boy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At least it wasn't Soulja Boy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182024</id>
	<title>Resource allocation</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1266490740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>When managing a resource such as CPU time, memory use or network traffic there should be ways to transparently mediate between users. You set some simple rules like "everybody gets a go" or "each host gets a slice of the network" and write some simple software to implement it.</p><p>Okay so thats traffic shaping and I know its not as simple as I make it out to be but the approach used here seems crude and a waste of man hours.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When managing a resource such as CPU time , memory use or network traffic there should be ways to transparently mediate between users .
You set some simple rules like " everybody gets a go " or " each host gets a slice of the network " and write some simple software to implement it.Okay so thats traffic shaping and I know its not as simple as I make it out to be but the approach used here seems crude and a waste of man hours .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When managing a resource such as CPU time, memory use or network traffic there should be ways to transparently mediate between users.
You set some simple rules like "everybody gets a go" or "each host gets a slice of the network" and write some simple software to implement it.Okay so thats traffic shaping and I know its not as simple as I make it out to be but the approach used here seems crude and a waste of man hours.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183242</id>
	<title>A microcosm of why socialism is a failure</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266502920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's human nature.  The freeloader problem can only be overcome by making everyone pay their own way.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's human nature .
The freeloader problem can only be overcome by making everyone pay their own way .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's human nature.
The freeloader problem can only be overcome by making everyone pay their own way.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181970</id>
	<title>ObRoll</title>
	<author>wiredlogic</author>
	<datestamp>1266490260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Just to get things rolling. Here is the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1scwq7DhfI" title="youtube.com">tasteful mashup</a> [youtube.com] with Nirvana.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Just to get things rolling .
Here is the tasteful mashup [ youtube.com ] with Nirvana .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just to get things rolling.
Here is the tasteful mashup [youtube.com] with Nirvana.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181890</id>
	<title>Just for fun</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266489360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple &amp; Linux events?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple &amp; Linux events ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple &amp; Linux events?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182518</id>
	<title>Re:TBF with a big bucket</title>
	<author>advocate\_one</author>
	<datestamp>1266496500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>such a pity you can't patent this now you've bragged about it... or have you already patented it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>such a pity you ca n't patent this now you 've bragged about it... or have you already patented it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>such a pity you can't patent this now you've bragged about it... or have you already patented it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184606</id>
	<title>Re:ObRoll</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266509400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Pff, this one has 50 Cent instead of Rick, but it takes the cakes. All of them! ^^<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyc1dxL3N0" title="youtube.com">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyc1dxL3N0</a> [youtube.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Pff , this one has 50 Cent instead of Rick , but it takes the cakes .
All of them !
^ ^ http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = jkyc1dxL3N0 [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Pff, this one has 50 Cent instead of Rick, but it takes the cakes.
All of them!
^^http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyc1dxL3N0 [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181970</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183298</id>
	<title>Re:How do Rick Roll scripts work?</title>
	<author>natehoy</author>
	<datestamp>1266503280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No.  As I understand it, those who are rickrolled basically get a customized DNS response that points all page requests to a local server with one web page and a blind redirect to that web page.  That single web page has an embedded rickroll video.</p><p>Somewhat similar to how airports on a pay-for connection, or hotel connections work.  Try to go to any website, and you get redirected to a login or purchase page.</p><p>Presumably any other connections not on port 80 (torrent, FTP, etc) are dropped.</p><p>So if you're surfing the web while torrenting, you'll get the rickroll video on the next page you load after you are detected, and you'll find that all of your torrents suddenly stop connecting.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No .
As I understand it , those who are rickrolled basically get a customized DNS response that points all page requests to a local server with one web page and a blind redirect to that web page .
That single web page has an embedded rickroll video.Somewhat similar to how airports on a pay-for connection , or hotel connections work .
Try to go to any website , and you get redirected to a login or purchase page.Presumably any other connections not on port 80 ( torrent , FTP , etc ) are dropped.So if you 're surfing the web while torrenting , you 'll get the rickroll video on the next page you load after you are detected , and you 'll find that all of your torrents suddenly stop connecting .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No.
As I understand it, those who are rickrolled basically get a customized DNS response that points all page requests to a local server with one web page and a blind redirect to that web page.
That single web page has an embedded rickroll video.Somewhat similar to how airports on a pay-for connection, or hotel connections work.
Try to go to any website, and you get redirected to a login or purchase page.Presumably any other connections not on port 80 (torrent, FTP, etc) are dropped.So if you're surfing the web while torrenting, you'll get the rickroll video on the next page you load after you are detected, and you'll find that all of your torrents suddenly stop connecting.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182018</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182056</id>
	<title>Been Slashdotted</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266491160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>It looks like the news link has been Slashdotted, Here's a mirror to the link  <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow"> ic news story Microsoft </a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>It looks like the news link has been Slashdotted , Here 's a mirror to the link ic news story Microsoft [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It looks like the news link has been Slashdotted, Here's a mirror to the link  

 ic news story Microsoft  [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182438</id>
	<title>Re:Just for fun</title>
	<author>Beale</author>
	<datestamp>1266495600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>Appropriate variants of the 1984 ad.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Appropriate variants of the 1984 ad .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Appropriate variants of the 1984 ad.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31186444</id>
	<title>Re:Evil</title>
	<author>Loko Draucarn</author>
	<datestamp>1266516300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I use <a href="http://www.greasespot.net/" title="greasespot.net" rel="nofollow">Greasemonkey</a> [greasespot.net] with the <a href="http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/12113" title="userscripts.org" rel="nofollow">Youtube Title Adder</a> [userscripts.org] script. It appends the title of any youtube video to any link to youtube, thereby alerting you to the content of said link.</p><p>Granted, I use this more as a method to see what people are linking to as I can't reach youtube through the corporate firewall, but it works as a rickroll defense, too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I use Greasemonkey [ greasespot.net ] with the Youtube Title Adder [ userscripts.org ] script .
It appends the title of any youtube video to any link to youtube , thereby alerting you to the content of said link.Granted , I use this more as a method to see what people are linking to as I ca n't reach youtube through the corporate firewall , but it works as a rickroll defense , too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I use Greasemonkey [greasespot.net] with the Youtube Title Adder [userscripts.org] script.
It appends the title of any youtube video to any link to youtube, thereby alerting you to the content of said link.Granted, I use this more as a method to see what people are linking to as I can't reach youtube through the corporate firewall, but it works as a rickroll defense, too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184354</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182232</id>
	<title>TBF with a big bucket</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266493320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I solved this problem at the local library's public access wireless with a linux router and a token bucket filter with a big bucket. Each IP address gets a 10MByte bucket that fills up at 256kbits/second. The bucket is big enough that they'll never know they are limited for normal browsing, but a torrent sucks it try really fast and drops down to a slow enough speed that it's not really worthwhile. And even if they do stick with it at least they aren't burning through tens of gigabytes per day. It beats any other filter i've ever tried.</p><p>I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just couldn't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I solved this problem at the local library 's public access wireless with a linux router and a token bucket filter with a big bucket .
Each IP address gets a 10MByte bucket that fills up at 256kbits/second .
The bucket is big enough that they 'll never know they are limited for normal browsing , but a torrent sucks it try really fast and drops down to a slow enough speed that it 's not really worthwhile .
And even if they do stick with it at least they are n't burning through tens of gigabytes per day .
It beats any other filter i 've ever tried.I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just could n't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I solved this problem at the local library's public access wireless with a linux router and a token bucket filter with a big bucket.
Each IP address gets a 10MByte bucket that fills up at 256kbits/second.
The bucket is big enough that they'll never know they are limited for normal browsing, but a torrent sucks it try really fast and drops down to a slow enough speed that it's not really worthwhile.
And even if they do stick with it at least they aren't burning through tens of gigabytes per day.
It beats any other filter i've ever tried.I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just couldn't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184220</id>
	<title>Re:Resource allocation</title>
	<author>socsoc</author>
	<datestamp>1266507840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yep.  Since someone at some point gave him the go ahead to do this ridiculous idea that wasted time and it did little... I can't believe that they hadn't already made the call to block most ports or filter dns requests.  This sounds a lot like a really poorly managed conference network and a really bored admin.  Really though, it's a 150mbps network.  That's like when I was in college and downloaded linux isos from other universities just to see how fast the transfer would be. It's not my fault if they allowed me to saturate the network that I was a guest on.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep .
Since someone at some point gave him the go ahead to do this ridiculous idea that wasted time and it did little... I ca n't believe that they had n't already made the call to block most ports or filter dns requests .
This sounds a lot like a really poorly managed conference network and a really bored admin .
Really though , it 's a 150mbps network .
That 's like when I was in college and downloaded linux isos from other universities just to see how fast the transfer would be .
It 's not my fault if they allowed me to saturate the network that I was a guest on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep.
Since someone at some point gave him the go ahead to do this ridiculous idea that wasted time and it did little... I can't believe that they hadn't already made the call to block most ports or filter dns requests.
This sounds a lot like a really poorly managed conference network and a really bored admin.
Really though, it's a 150mbps network.
That's like when I was in college and downloaded linux isos from other universities just to see how fast the transfer would be.
It's not my fault if they allowed me to saturate the network that I was a guest on.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182024</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181992</id>
	<title>Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266490440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>So we scheduled this script to run each minute to generate a list of offending MAC addresses.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings, and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts, and largely not idle, that you are probably a Torrenter. OTOH, if you had, say, 20 connections open to a single host or a low number of hosts then this is probably quite fine.</p><p>These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>And there you have it. The culprits fingered and booted off the network. Of course, they then just changed their MAC addresses, in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up, and the new MAC was banned.</p></div><p>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets <em>them</em> "booted off the network".</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : So we scheduled this script to run each minute to generate a list of offending MAC addresses.We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings , and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts , and largely not idle , that you are probably a Torrenter .
OTOH , if you had , say , 20 connections open to a single host or a low number of hosts then this is probably quite fine.These scripts output a list of bad MACs , that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.And there you have it .
The culprits fingered and booted off the network .
Of course , they then just changed their MAC addresses , in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up , and the new MAC was banned.This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers ( or whoever else they want to f * ck with ) and gets them " booted off the network " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA:So we scheduled this script to run each minute to generate a list of offending MAC addresses.We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings, and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts, and largely not idle, that you are probably a Torrenter.
OTOH, if you had, say, 20 connections open to a single host or a low number of hosts then this is probably quite fine.These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.And there you have it.
The culprits fingered and booted off the network.
Of course, they then just changed their MAC addresses, in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up, and the new MAC was banned.This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182622</id>
	<title>TBF with a big bucket-Howls of pain.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266497640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just couldn't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)"</p><p>You wouldn't happen to have an audio copy by any chance?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just could n't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away : ) " You would n't happen to have an audio copy by any chance ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I still fondly remember the howls of dismay from the leechers when I turned it... they just couldn't understand why their downloads start at 20mbits/second but slow down to a crawl almost straight away :)"You wouldn't happen to have an audio copy by any chance?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182162</id>
	<title>Linux?</title>
	<author>muftak</author>
	<datestamp>1266492420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I bet they used Linux to do this... is it even possible to do something like this in windows?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I bet they used Linux to do this... is it even possible to do something like this in windows ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I bet they used Linux to do this... is it even possible to do something like this in windows?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183044</id>
	<title>Re:Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>Lars T.</author>
	<datestamp>1266501840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p><div class="quote"><p>These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.</p></div><p><div class="quote"><p>And there you have it. The culprits fingered and booted off the network. Of course, they then just changed their MAC addresses, in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up, and the new MAC was banned.</p></div><p>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets <em>them</em> "booted off the network".</p></div><p>Yeah, I'm sure they don't have a whitelist of MAC addresses from their own infrastructure that gets dropped very early in the scripts. Or an ACL on the switch that blocks them on every port they shouldn't be on.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>These scripts output a list of bad MACs , that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.And there you have it .
The culprits fingered and booted off the network .
Of course , they then just changed their MAC addresses , in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up , and the new MAC was banned.This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers ( or whoever else they want to f * ck with ) and gets them " booted off the network " .Yeah , I 'm sure they do n't have a whitelist of MAC addresses from their own infrastructure that gets dropped very early in the scripts .
Or an ACL on the switch that blocks them on every port they should n't be on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.And there you have it.
The culprits fingered and booted off the network.
Of course, they then just changed their MAC addresses, in which case they were then re-identified as soon as their utilisation crept up, and the new MAC was banned.This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".Yeah, I'm sure they don't have a whitelist of MAC addresses from their own infrastructure that gets dropped very early in the scripts.
Or an ACL on the switch that blocks them on every port they shouldn't be on.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181992</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182264</id>
	<title>Re:Lame</title>
	<author>c6gunner</author>
	<datestamp>1266493620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Rick Rolling is so last year....</p></div><p>gee<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...</p><p><i>"Microsoft has revealed that  it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference WiFi network <b>last year</b><nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</i></p><p>Look on the bright side - at least you didn't make a total ass of yourself by saying:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>What did you expect? This is Microsoft we're talking about here. They're always behind by a full year or five when it comes to internet memes.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rick Rolling is so last year....gee ... " Microsoft has revealed that it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference WiFi network last year ....Look on the bright side - at least you did n't make a total ass of yourself by saying : What did you expect ?
This is Microsoft we 're talking about here .
They 're always behind by a full year or five when it comes to internet memes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rick Rolling is so last year....gee ..."Microsoft has revealed that  it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference WiFi network last year ....Look on the bright side - at least you didn't make a total ass of yourself by saying:What did you expect?
This is Microsoft we're talking about here.
They're always behind by a full year or five when it comes to internet memes.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181984</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31186490</id>
	<title>Re:wait</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266516540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>had to try.  the bing image search was also unflattering, there were sweaty shirts, tounges, red horns, scary faces, etc.  Maybe it just just hard to photograph Steve in a flattering manner.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>had to try .
the bing image search was also unflattering , there were sweaty shirts , tounges , red horns , scary faces , etc .
Maybe it just just hard to photograph Steve in a flattering manner .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>had to try.
the bing image search was also unflattering, there were sweaty shirts, tounges, red horns, scary faces, etc.
Maybe it just just hard to photograph Steve in a flattering manner.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184686</id>
	<title>Re:It could have been worse...</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266509640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or Die Antwood.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or Die Antwood .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or Die Antwood.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182888</id>
	<title>Re:What surprises me...</title>
	<author>RogerWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1266500460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I understood from the article (I must be new here) that they went to the developers of ipnat.sys, the driver in windows itself. I suppose those know something about networking, especially their own code.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I understood from the article ( I must be new here ) that they went to the developers of ipnat.sys , the driver in windows itself .
I suppose those know something about networking , especially their own code .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I understood from the article (I must be new here) that they went to the developers of ipnat.sys, the driver in windows itself.
I suppose those know something about networking, especially their own code.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182178</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31185058</id>
	<title>Re:It could have been worse...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266511140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Should've been the goatse guy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Should 've been the goatse guy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Should've been the goatse guy.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181752</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183296</id>
	<title>why?</title>
	<author>circletimessquare</author>
	<datestamp>1266503280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>on what morally or philosophically coherent grounds does it make any sense to you that a song from the 1987 should still be earning anyone any money?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>on what morally or philosophically coherent grounds does it make any sense to you that a song from the 1987 should still be earning anyone any money ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>on what morally or philosophically coherent grounds does it make any sense to you that a song from the 1987 should still be earning anyone any money?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181802</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181914</id>
	<title>Call the RIAA</title>
	<author>upto0013</author>
	<datestamp>1266489600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Call the RIAA!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Call the RIAA !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Call the RIAA!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31227930</id>
	<title>Re:Resource allocation</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1266843780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What makes traffic shaping tricky is that you have to do it at the pinch point(s). Worse depending on network design and loading the pinch point(s) can move arround (though in this situation they probablly won't).</p><p>Now in something like a conference network the pinch point is probabblly the connection from the conference network to the internet (assuming all internal backbones are faster than the route offsite). So this is where you have to do your traffic shaping. However this is a high bandwidth point AND is handling traffic from a lot of users, that means giving every user a fair go is actually quite tricky (effectively you need a seperate queue for each user and to monitor when a packet belonging to that user was last successfully transmitted)</p><p>Much simpler to simply detect problem users and either block them completely or put them in a different priority class. Then the pinchpoint router only needs a couple of queues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What makes traffic shaping tricky is that you have to do it at the pinch point ( s ) .
Worse depending on network design and loading the pinch point ( s ) can move arround ( though in this situation they probablly wo n't ) .Now in something like a conference network the pinch point is probabblly the connection from the conference network to the internet ( assuming all internal backbones are faster than the route offsite ) .
So this is where you have to do your traffic shaping .
However this is a high bandwidth point AND is handling traffic from a lot of users , that means giving every user a fair go is actually quite tricky ( effectively you need a seperate queue for each user and to monitor when a packet belonging to that user was last successfully transmitted ) Much simpler to simply detect problem users and either block them completely or put them in a different priority class .
Then the pinchpoint router only needs a couple of queues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What makes traffic shaping tricky is that you have to do it at the pinch point(s).
Worse depending on network design and loading the pinch point(s) can move arround (though in this situation they probablly won't).Now in something like a conference network the pinch point is probabblly the connection from the conference network to the internet (assuming all internal backbones are faster than the route offsite).
So this is where you have to do your traffic shaping.
However this is a high bandwidth point AND is handling traffic from a lot of users, that means giving every user a fair go is actually quite tricky (effectively you need a seperate queue for each user and to monitor when a packet belonging to that user was last successfully transmitted)Much simpler to simply detect problem users and either block them completely or put them in a different priority class.
Then the pinchpoint router only needs a couple of queues.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182024</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184006</id>
	<title>Re:Just for fun</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1266506820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You, sir, apparently have trouble distinguishing between humor and sadistic malice. I also find your comment terribly insensitive towards those who had/have to provide technical support for friends and family using ME. They try to deny it, but I know their just using ME.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You , sir , apparently have trouble distinguishing between humor and sadistic malice .
I also find your comment terribly insensitive towards those who had/have to provide technical support for friends and family using ME .
They try to deny it , but I know their just using ME .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You, sir, apparently have trouble distinguishing between humor and sadistic malice.
I also find your comment terribly insensitive towards those who had/have to provide technical support for friends and family using ME.
They try to deny it, but I know their just using ME.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182966</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31185764</id>
	<title>Re:Redirecting trackers</title>
	<author>initialE</author>
	<datestamp>1266513600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Well the joke's on them, I was trying to torrent Rick Astley!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Well the joke 's on them , I was trying to torrent Rick Astley !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Well the joke's on them, I was trying to torrent Rick Astley!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182170</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31186442</id>
	<title>Re:Lame</title>
	<author>PhxBlue</author>
	<datestamp>1266516300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>"Microsoft has revealed that it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference WiFi network <b>last year</b><nobr> <wbr></nobr>....</i></p> </div><p> <i>Whoosh!</i> </p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Microsoft has revealed that it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference WiFi network last year .... Whoosh !</tokentext>
<sentencetext> "Microsoft has revealed that it RickRolled users that were killing its TechEd conference WiFi network last year ....  Whoosh! 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182264</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31193250</id>
	<title>Wait, can I get royalties for this?</title>
	<author>ZephyrQ</author>
	<datestamp>1266497460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I (and my father) are named Rick Roll!</p><p>Oh, and Microsoft has deep pockets...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>....oooooo....chaching!</p><p>Seriously, I am so tired of these meme.  I still have students coming up to me, read my name tag, and ask..."is that really your name?" and giggle incessantly...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I ( and my father ) are named Rick Roll ! Oh , and Microsoft has deep pockets... ....oooooo....chaching ! Seriously , I am so tired of these meme .
I still have students coming up to me , read my name tag , and ask... " is that really your name ?
" and giggle incessantly.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I (and my father) are named Rick Roll!Oh, and Microsoft has deep pockets... ....oooooo....chaching!Seriously, I am so tired of these meme.
I still have students coming up to me, read my name tag, and ask..."is that really your name?
" and giggle incessantly...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183302</id>
	<title>Re:Just for fun</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266503280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The free software song by Stallman.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The free software song by Stallman .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The free software song by Stallman.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182170</id>
	<title>Redirecting trackers</title>
	<author>threephaseboy</author>
	<datestamp>1266492540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So you redirect a BT client to a "rickroll" whenever it tries to get a list of peers, and this page is never seen by the end user.<br>You did a great job!<br>Oh wait...</p><blockquote><div><p>We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings, and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts, and largely not idle, that you are probably a Torrenter.(...) These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.</p></div></blockquote><p>Yeah, that might have been a little more helpful than redirecting a client (which will just use DHT instead to find peers)</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>So you redirect a BT client to a " rickroll " whenever it tries to get a list of peers , and this page is never seen by the end user.You did a great job ! Oh wait...We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings , and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts , and largely not idle , that you are probably a Torrenter. ( .. .
) These scripts output a list of bad MACs , that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.Yeah , that might have been a little more helpful than redirecting a client ( which will just use DHT instead to find peers )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So you redirect a BT client to a "rickroll" whenever it tries to get a list of peers, and this page is never seen by the end user.You did a great job!Oh wait...We reasoned that if you had a lot of mappings, and that a large proportion of those mappings were to a lot of distinct remote hosts, and largely not idle, that you are probably a Torrenter.(...
) These scripts output a list of bad MACs, that we then just dropped into a block list in the core switches.Yeah, that might have been a little more helpful than redirecting a client (which will just use DHT instead to find peers)
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31187090</id>
	<title>Re:Evil</title>
	<author>thePowerOfGrayskull</author>
	<datestamp>1266519300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Rick Rolling, told you Microsoft is evil<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></div><p>I agree with you.  In fact, I have recorded an incisive and insightful video commentary on exactly this subject, which you can find <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ" title="youtube.com">at this location</a> [youtube.com].</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rick Rolling , told you Microsoft is evil ; - ) I agree with you .
In fact , I have recorded an incisive and insightful video commentary on exactly this subject , which you can find at this location [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rick Rolling, told you Microsoft is evil ;-)I agree with you.
In fact, I have recorded an incisive and insightful video commentary on exactly this subject, which you can find at this location [youtube.com].
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181838</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184044</id>
	<title>Re:Resource allocation</title>
	<author>jeffmeden</author>
	<datestamp>1266507060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A profile that put all the torrent-like traffic into a queue with 25kbit/s of bandwidth would have probably been more effective, you are right.  But honestly, if you had the chance to rick-roll those dicks, wouldn't you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A profile that put all the torrent-like traffic into a queue with 25kbit/s of bandwidth would have probably been more effective , you are right .
But honestly , if you had the chance to rick-roll those dicks , would n't you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A profile that put all the torrent-like traffic into a queue with 25kbit/s of bandwidth would have probably been more effective, you are right.
But honestly, if you had the chance to rick-roll those dicks, wouldn't you?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182024</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31187576</id>
	<title>Re:Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>nuckfuts</author>
	<datestamp>1266521040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The DNS server would, by their definition, be blacklisted almost immediately since it too will be creating a LOT of distinct connections to different addresses.</p></div><p>They're probably only looking at TCP connections. DNS traffic usually runs over UDP.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The DNS server would , by their definition , be blacklisted almost immediately since it too will be creating a LOT of distinct connections to different addresses.They 're probably only looking at TCP connections .
DNS traffic usually runs over UDP .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The DNS server would, by their definition, be blacklisted almost immediately since it too will be creating a LOT of distinct connections to different addresses.They're probably only looking at TCP connections.
DNS traffic usually runs over UDP.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184020</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184020</id>
	<title>Re:Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266506880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The DNS server would, by their definition, be blacklisted almost immediately since it too will be creating a LOT of distinct connections to different addresses.  Assuming they didn't shoot themselves in the foot by doing this (not adding it to a whitelist), they should be safe from would-be attackers.</p><p>Much more annoying and troublesome would be a DoS of random other participants, blacking out everyone's access.  That is, until the mob mentality kicks in and anyone caught watching a screener of the new Twilight movie while sitting in a presentation is immediately beaten up and thrown out of the building.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The DNS server would , by their definition , be blacklisted almost immediately since it too will be creating a LOT of distinct connections to different addresses .
Assuming they did n't shoot themselves in the foot by doing this ( not adding it to a whitelist ) , they should be safe from would-be attackers.Much more annoying and troublesome would be a DoS of random other participants , blacking out everyone 's access .
That is , until the mob mentality kicks in and anyone caught watching a screener of the new Twilight movie while sitting in a presentation is immediately beaten up and thrown out of the building .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The DNS server would, by their definition, be blacklisted almost immediately since it too will be creating a LOT of distinct connections to different addresses.
Assuming they didn't shoot themselves in the foot by doing this (not adding it to a whitelist), they should be safe from would-be attackers.Much more annoying and troublesome would be a DoS of random other participants, blacking out everyone's access.
That is, until the mob mentality kicks in and anyone caught watching a screener of the new Twilight movie while sitting in a presentation is immediately beaten up and thrown out of the building.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182678</id>
	<title>Re:Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>drinkypoo</author>
	<datestamp>1266498240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".</p></div><p>If you're on a different interface from the DNS server, how will you even know the MAC? And if you're on a different interface, what makes you think it will even work? Most APs have DNS proxies anyway, and no device worth using will send you packets destined for itself.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers ( or whoever else they want to f * ck with ) and gets them " booted off the network " .If you 're on a different interface from the DNS server , how will you even know the MAC ?
And if you 're on a different interface , what makes you think it will even work ?
Most APs have DNS proxies anyway , and no device worth using will send you packets destined for itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".If you're on a different interface from the DNS server, how will you even know the MAC?
And if you're on a different interface, what makes you think it will even work?
Most APs have DNS proxies anyway, and no device worth using will send you packets destined for itself.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31185116</id>
	<title>Deliberate copyright infringment by MS?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266511320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmmmm... I thought the penalties for that were a big deal.  MPAA, RIAA, where are you?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmmmm... I thought the penalties for that were a big deal .
MPAA , RIAA , where are you ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmmmm... I thought the penalties for that were a big deal.
MPAA, RIAA, where are you?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182116</id>
	<title>Re:Please tell me...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266491820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stock Aitken Waterman made more than enough cash at the turn of the 90s. In 1990 something like 2\% of all records sold in the UK were produced by them. Between 1988 and 1990 there wasn't a single week when a record of theirs was not in the top 75.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stock Aitken Waterman made more than enough cash at the turn of the 90s .
In 1990 something like 2 \ % of all records sold in the UK were produced by them .
Between 1988 and 1990 there was n't a single week when a record of theirs was not in the top 75 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stock Aitken Waterman made more than enough cash at the turn of the 90s.
In 1990 something like 2\% of all records sold in the UK were produced by them.
Between 1988 and 1990 there wasn't a single week when a record of theirs was not in the top 75.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181802</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182018</id>
	<title>How do Rick Roll scripts work?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266490620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Can you change the content of a file while it is being downloaded.? I would expect the client to have some hash-keys to detect that.

Is this just a question of modifying the contents of all downloaded torrent-files, so they point somewhere else?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can you change the content of a file while it is being downloaded. ?
I would expect the client to have some hash-keys to detect that .
Is this just a question of modifying the contents of all downloaded torrent-files , so they point somewhere else ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can you change the content of a file while it is being downloaded.?
I would expect the client to have some hash-keys to detect that.
Is this just a question of modifying the contents of all downloaded torrent-files, so they point somewhere else?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31188380</id>
	<title>Re:Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>dangitman</author>
	<datestamp>1266523500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".</p></div><p>C'mon. It was a Microsoft conference. Nobody there is savvy enough to do such a thing.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers ( or whoever else they want to f * ck with ) and gets them " booted off the network " .C'mon .
It was a Microsoft conference .
Nobody there is savvy enough to do such a thing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This approach will work fine until one of the culprits decides to spoof the MAC address of your DNS servers (or whoever else they want to f*ck with) and gets them "booted off the network".C'mon.
It was a Microsoft conference.
Nobody there is savvy enough to do such a thing.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181992</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182966</id>
	<title>Re:Just for fun</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266501240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple &amp; Linux events?</p></div><p>Force install of Win ME.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple &amp; Linux events ? Force install of Win ME .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Suggestions please for equivalent at Apple &amp; Linux events?Force install of Win ME.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181890</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183970</id>
	<title>Re:Been Slashdotted</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266506640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The sheer brilliance of slashdot is revealed in this post not by the poster (granted, good job though), but by the moderators who modded the post all the way up to +5 Informative instead of funny. If I could mod a mod, I'd mod that fucking hilarious.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The sheer brilliance of slashdot is revealed in this post not by the poster ( granted , good job though ) , but by the moderators who modded the post all the way up to + 5 Informative instead of funny .
If I could mod a mod , I 'd mod that fucking hilarious .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The sheer brilliance of slashdot is revealed in this post not by the poster (granted, good job though), but by the moderators who modded the post all the way up to +5 Informative instead of funny.
If I could mod a mod, I'd mod that fucking hilarious.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182056</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31187154</id>
	<title>Lolmaster</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266519600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Kein Wunder, aber bei Microsoft doch nur nette, schlanke Personen, w&#228;hrend die Hacker mal wieder eklig fette Nerds sind. Den glibscht doch st&#228;ndig das Laptop beim Wardriven aus der Hand. So kann das nichts werden. LOL!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Kein Wunder , aber bei Microsoft doch nur nette , schlanke Personen , w   hrend die Hacker mal wieder eklig fette Nerds sind .
Den glibscht doch st   ndig das Laptop beim Wardriven aus der Hand .
So kann das nichts werden .
LOL !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Kein Wunder, aber bei Microsoft doch nur nette, schlanke Personen, während die Hacker mal wieder eklig fette Nerds sind.
Den glibscht doch ständig das Laptop beim Wardriven aus der Hand.
So kann das nichts werden.
LOL!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181806</id>
	<title>COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266488700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Public performance of an artist's work without paying the lawers, er I mean the artist! Suing time</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Public performance of an artist 's work without paying the lawers , er I mean the artist !
Suing time</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Public performance of an artist's work without paying the lawers, er I mean the artist!
Suing time</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183554</id>
	<title>The real story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266504600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apparently their implementation of RRAS was insufficient for the size of their conference and the internet circa 2009.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apparently their implementation of RRAS was insufficient for the size of their conference and the internet circa 2009 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apparently their implementation of RRAS was insufficient for the size of their conference and the internet circa 2009.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31186658</id>
	<title>Re:wait</title>
	<author>Low Ranked Craig</author>
	<datestamp>1266517320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ballmer doesn't care.  He rolls his fat, sweaty, nekkid body around on piles of $100 bills and farts in your general direction.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ballmer does n't care .
He rolls his fat , sweaty , nekkid body around on piles of $ 100 bills and farts in your general direction .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ballmer doesn't care.
He rolls his fat, sweaty, nekkid body around on piles of $100 bills and farts in your general direction.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182872</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31227976</id>
	<title>Re:TBF with a big bucket</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1266844080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nice idea for smaller networks but I doubt having a seperate bucket for every IP scales very well.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nice idea for smaller networks but I doubt having a seperate bucket for every IP scales very well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nice idea for smaller networks but I doubt having a seperate bucket for every IP scales very well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182232</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182754</id>
	<title>The real important question</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266499080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can Microsoft be billed from the copyright holders for redirecting unsuspecting network users to "consume" someone else's intellectual property?  Think of the artist's rights!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can Microsoft be billed from the copyright holders for redirecting unsuspecting network users to " consume " someone else 's intellectual property ?
Think of the artist 's rights !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can Microsoft be billed from the copyright holders for redirecting unsuspecting network users to "consume" someone else's intellectual property?
Think of the artist's rights!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182294</id>
	<title>Re:Can you spell DoS?</title>
	<author>chrismeidinger</author>
	<datestamp>1266494100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>you mean so the DNS servers can no longer authenticate to the wireless access points? oh lordy!

in a routed network you can't even find out the MAC addresses of hosts in another broadcast domain.</htmltext>
<tokenext>you mean so the DNS servers can no longer authenticate to the wireless access points ?
oh lordy !
in a routed network you ca n't even find out the MAC addresses of hosts in another broadcast domain .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you mean so the DNS servers can no longer authenticate to the wireless access points?
oh lordy!
in a routed network you can't even find out the MAC addresses of hosts in another broadcast domain.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181992</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184238</id>
	<title>Re:Been Slashdotted</title>
	<author>socsoc</author>
	<datestamp>1266507900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Funny mods don't provide any karma.  Since it was so clever, they probably went with informative to provide karma and also additionally rickroll people.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny mods do n't provide any karma .
Since it was so clever , they probably went with informative to provide karma and also additionally rickroll people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny mods don't provide any karma.
Since it was so clever, they probably went with informative to provide karma and also additionally rickroll people.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31183970</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31184114</id>
	<title>Give MS A Break</title>
	<author>bxwatso</author>
	<datestamp>1266507420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know that it is impolitic to do anything but bash MS on this site, but come on, this was funny.<p>MS addressed a problem by combining clever sleuthing with some humor.</p><p>This tells me that MS is getting a pulse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know that it is impolitic to do anything but bash MS on this site , but come on , this was funny.MS addressed a problem by combining clever sleuthing with some humor.This tells me that MS is getting a pulse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know that it is impolitic to do anything but bash MS on this site, but come on, this was funny.MS addressed a problem by combining clever sleuthing with some humor.This tells me that MS is getting a pulse.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182676</id>
	<title>Re:TBF with a big bucket</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266498240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>cd router/apps/pwnage</p><p>./ihasabucket</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>cd router/apps/pwnage./ihasabucket</tokentext>
<sentencetext>cd router/apps/pwnage./ihasabucket
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31181838</id>
	<title>Evil</title>
	<author>DeBaas</author>
	<datestamp>1266488940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Rick Rolling, told you Microsoft is evil<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;-)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Rick Rolling , told you Microsoft is evil ; - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rick Rolling, told you Microsoft is evil ;-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31186168</id>
	<title>Re:ObRoll</title>
	<author>WoodenTable</author>
	<datestamp>1266515280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm always surprised how many people have managed to sub in different music behind Rick Astley singing that. I've seen a few videos like that over the years... some worked, and some definitely didn't.</p><p>The most creative rickroll I've ever seen is the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZr3JWYdy8" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">PaintRoll</a> [youtube.com], which is a rickroll done in, yes, freakin' <b>Mario Paint</b>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm always surprised how many people have managed to sub in different music behind Rick Astley singing that .
I 've seen a few videos like that over the years... some worked , and some definitely did n't.The most creative rickroll I 've ever seen is the PaintRoll [ youtube.com ] , which is a rickroll done in , yes , freakin ' Mario Paint .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm always surprised how many people have managed to sub in different music behind Rick Astley singing that.
I've seen a few videos like that over the years... some worked, and some definitely didn't.The most creative rickroll I've ever seen is the PaintRoll [youtube.com], which is a rickroll done in, yes, freakin' Mario Paint.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182456</id>
	<title>Re:ObRoll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266495840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Cobain must be rickrolling in his grave.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</p><p>p.s. I hate Astley as much as the next guy, but that mashup is <em>awesome</em>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Cobain must be rickrolling in his grave .
: - ) p.s. I hate Astley as much as the next guy , but that mashup is awesome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Cobain must be rickrolling in his grave.
:-)p.s. I hate Astley as much as the next guy, but that mashup is awesome.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31189672</id>
	<title>Re:Please tell me...</title>
	<author>flabordec</author>
	<datestamp>1266483900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Waterman, whose fortune was estimated at &pound;47 million by The Times in 2004, compared this treatment to the "exploitation" of migrant workers in the Middle East.</p> </div><p>Poor Pete Waterman! He wrote a song 20 years ago and Google is not paying him money today so he only has 47 million pounds to feed his poor, hungry family! That <i>is</i> a lot like slave labor. &lt;/sarcasm&gt;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Waterman , whose fortune was estimated at   47 million by The Times in 2004 , compared this treatment to the " exploitation " of migrant workers in the Middle East .
Poor Pete Waterman !
He wrote a song 20 years ago and Google is not paying him money today so he only has 47 million pounds to feed his poor , hungry family !
That is a lot like slave labor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Waterman, whose fortune was estimated at £47 million by The Times in 2004, compared this treatment to the "exploitation" of migrant workers in the Middle East.
Poor Pete Waterman!
He wrote a song 20 years ago and Google is not paying him money today so he only has 47 million pounds to feed his poor, hungry family!
That is a lot like slave labor. 
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182272</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_18_0333212.31182178</id>
	<title>What surprises me...</title>
	<author>Mr. Firewall</author>
	<datestamp>1266492660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...is that a Micro$oft employee actually had the brains to figure all of this out. M$ is not known for their networking expertise.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...is that a Micro $ oft employee actually had the brains to figure all of this out .
M $ is not known for their networking expertise .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...is that a Micro$oft employee actually had the brains to figure all of this out.
M$ is not known for their networking expertise.</sentencetext>
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