<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_16_1311236</id>
	<title>Google Patents Country-Specific Content Blocking</title>
	<author>Soulskill</author>
	<datestamp>1266328440000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>theodp writes <i>"Today Google was awarded US Patent No. 7,664,751 for its invention of <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=7,664,751">Variable User Interface Based on Document Access Privileges</a>, which the search giant explains can be used to restrict what Internet content people can see 'based on geographical location information of the user and based on access rights possessed for the document.' From the patent: 'For example, readers from the United States may be given "partial" access to the document while readers in Canada may be given "full" access to the document. This may be because the content provider has been granted full rights in the document from the publisher for Canadian readers but has not been granted rights in the United States, so the content provider may choose to only enable fair use display for readers in the United States.' Oh well, at least Google is '<a href="http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/12/2329231/Google-Hacked-May-Pull-Out-of-China">no longer willing to continue censoring [their] results</a> on Google.cn.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>theodp writes " Today Google was awarded US Patent No .
7,664,751 for its invention of Variable User Interface Based on Document Access Privileges , which the search giant explains can be used to restrict what Internet content people can see 'based on geographical location information of the user and based on access rights possessed for the document .
' From the patent : 'For example , readers from the United States may be given " partial " access to the document while readers in Canada may be given " full " access to the document .
This may be because the content provider has been granted full rights in the document from the publisher for Canadian readers but has not been granted rights in the United States , so the content provider may choose to only enable fair use display for readers in the United States .
' Oh well , at least Google is 'no longer willing to continue censoring [ their ] results on Google.cn .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>theodp writes "Today Google was awarded US Patent No.
7,664,751 for its invention of Variable User Interface Based on Document Access Privileges, which the search giant explains can be used to restrict what Internet content people can see 'based on geographical location information of the user and based on access rights possessed for the document.
' From the patent: 'For example, readers from the United States may be given "partial" access to the document while readers in Canada may be given "full" access to the document.
This may be because the content provider has been granted full rights in the document from the publisher for Canadian readers but has not been granted rights in the United States, so the content provider may choose to only enable fair use display for readers in the United States.
' Oh well, at least Google is 'no longer willing to continue censoring [their] results on Google.cn.
'"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155650</id>
	<title>sphincter recognition system</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266338700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm going to apply for a patent on my sphincter recognition system.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm going to apply for a patent on my sphincter recognition system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm going to apply for a patent on my sphincter recognition system.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155276</id>
	<title>Need better granularity</title>
	<author>handy\_vandal</author>
	<datestamp>1266336600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Content filtering at the nation-state level. Yawn.</p><p>How about content filtering at the individual consciousness level? Show me what I wish to see, <em>and nothing else</em>.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Content filtering at the nation-state level .
Yawn.How about content filtering at the individual consciousness level ?
Show me what I wish to see , and nothing else .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Content filtering at the nation-state level.
Yawn.How about content filtering at the individual consciousness level?
Show me what I wish to see, and nothing else.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31156116</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>Tolkien</author>
	<datestamp>1266341400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What governing body do you think claims it has to think of the children for us because we might think of them in the wrong light? The governing body in question most probably influences law, and without people to speak out against their idiocy, they dictate our permissions.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What governing body do you think claims it has to think of the children for us because we might think of them in the wrong light ?
The governing body in question most probably influences law , and without people to speak out against their idiocy , they dictate our permissions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What governing body do you think claims it has to think of the children for us because we might think of them in the wrong light?
The governing body in question most probably influences law, and without people to speak out against their idiocy, they dictate our permissions.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154844</id>
	<title>Not so, Google has reinstituted blocking in China</title>
	<author>unixfan</author>
	<datestamp>1266334200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A month after the much discussed attack on Google, google.cn continues to censor search results, though it appears to be less than prior to this incident. Ref. <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/10/google\_china/" title="theregister.co.uk">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/10/google\_china/</a> [theregister.co.uk]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A month after the much discussed attack on Google , google.cn continues to censor search results , though it appears to be less than prior to this incident .
Ref. http : //www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/10/google \ _china/ [ theregister.co.uk ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A month after the much discussed attack on Google, google.cn continues to censor search results, though it appears to be less than prior to this incident.
Ref. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/10/google\_china/ [theregister.co.uk]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155066</id>
	<title>Re:Patenting ACTA?</title>
	<author>Seto89</author>
	<datestamp>1266335520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Either way the lawyers win!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Either way the lawyers win !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Either way the lawyers win!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31168002</id>
	<title>whatever</title>
	<author>shnull</author>
	<datestamp>1265034600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>happened to internet ?</htmltext>
<tokenext>happened to internet ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>happened to internet ?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31157388</id>
	<title>Re:Google may not intend to use this patent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266346080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First, IAAPL (I Am A Patent Lawyer).</p><p>In order to prevent someone from patenting and abusing a technology, there is no need to get the patent yourself. Simply publishing a document about the technology in sufficient detail (i.e. what you would disclose in the patent) creates prior art, preventing anyone from patenting that technology. To ensure the USPTO (or any other patent office) sees the article, make it as public as possible. This creates the prior art, invalidating the patent application on novelty and/or nonobviousness grounds.</p><p>IBM has been doing this for decades for technology it doesn't feel is worth the effort to patent, but wants to be sure to not be excluded from. The USPTO even searches IBM's publishing database when reviewing patent applications, as it generates so much in the various fields.</p><p>Thus, there is no incentive to obtaining a patent (high cost) to ensure people's ability to use the technology. Publishing alone does that (low cost). The reason to get a patent is to profit from it (or at least intend to profit from it).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First , IAAPL ( I Am A Patent Lawyer ) .In order to prevent someone from patenting and abusing a technology , there is no need to get the patent yourself .
Simply publishing a document about the technology in sufficient detail ( i.e .
what you would disclose in the patent ) creates prior art , preventing anyone from patenting that technology .
To ensure the USPTO ( or any other patent office ) sees the article , make it as public as possible .
This creates the prior art , invalidating the patent application on novelty and/or nonobviousness grounds.IBM has been doing this for decades for technology it does n't feel is worth the effort to patent , but wants to be sure to not be excluded from .
The USPTO even searches IBM 's publishing database when reviewing patent applications , as it generates so much in the various fields.Thus , there is no incentive to obtaining a patent ( high cost ) to ensure people 's ability to use the technology .
Publishing alone does that ( low cost ) .
The reason to get a patent is to profit from it ( or at least intend to profit from it ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First, IAAPL (I Am A Patent Lawyer).In order to prevent someone from patenting and abusing a technology, there is no need to get the patent yourself.
Simply publishing a document about the technology in sufficient detail (i.e.
what you would disclose in the patent) creates prior art, preventing anyone from patenting that technology.
To ensure the USPTO (or any other patent office) sees the article, make it as public as possible.
This creates the prior art, invalidating the patent application on novelty and/or nonobviousness grounds.IBM has been doing this for decades for technology it doesn't feel is worth the effort to patent, but wants to be sure to not be excluded from.
The USPTO even searches IBM's publishing database when reviewing patent applications, as it generates so much in the various fields.Thus, there is no incentive to obtaining a patent (high cost) to ensure people's ability to use the technology.
Publishing alone does that (low cost).
The reason to get a patent is to profit from it (or at least intend to profit from it).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154712</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155714</id>
	<title>Previous art</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1266339060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Youtube has been doing it for years... oh, wait</htmltext>
<tokenext>Youtube has been doing it for years... oh , wait</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Youtube has been doing it for years... oh, wait</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154712</id>
	<title>Google may not intend to use this patent.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266333120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This may seem like a far stretch, but what if Google's intentions with this patent were in fact to disallow anyone from doing that? It seems rather surprising to me that the giant would suddenly switch sides like this, so I'll hope for the best.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This may seem like a far stretch , but what if Google 's intentions with this patent were in fact to disallow anyone from doing that ?
It seems rather surprising to me that the giant would suddenly switch sides like this , so I 'll hope for the best .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This may seem like a far stretch, but what if Google's intentions with this patent were in fact to disallow anyone from doing that?
It seems rather surprising to me that the giant would suddenly switch sides like this, so I'll hope for the best.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154836</id>
	<title>"Don't be evil"</title>
	<author>celibate for life</author>
	<datestamp>1266334140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This can't be a bad thing, right?
Their motto makes it clear that they don't like evil stuff.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This ca n't be a bad thing , right ?
Their motto makes it clear that they do n't like evil stuff .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This can't be a bad thing, right?
Their motto makes it clear that they don't like evil stuff.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154770</id>
	<title>This is ridiculous</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266333660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>How do they expect to license or police this?  I'm sure companies have been controlling content based on geolocation long before google.  i.e. the BBC / CNN etc.</p><p>Next they will be trying to patent the 'IF' statement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How do they expect to license or police this ?
I 'm sure companies have been controlling content based on geolocation long before google .
i.e. the BBC / CNN etc.Next they will be trying to patent the 'IF ' statement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How do they expect to license or police this?
I'm sure companies have been controlling content based on geolocation long before google.
i.e. the BBC / CNN etc.Next they will be trying to patent the 'IF' statement.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155284</id>
	<title>getting patents out of ACTA</title>
	<author>H4x0r Jim Duggan</author>
	<datestamp>1266336660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
  Getting patents out of ACTA is probably a very achievable goal.  When we were working on an EU directive to criminalise violations of "IP", we raised a stink about the idea of becoming a criminal for violating any one of the 50,000 software patents which nobody could be expected to read.
</p><p>
  That directive, like ACTA, was being pushed by the copyright industry.  The second we make them nervous about the whole thing crumbling over patents, patents will disappear over night.
</p><p>
  That's what's achievable, but only if we work on it.  One very easy way to help is to document what's happening in ACTA regarding patents, and why software patents are terrible:
</p><ul>
<li> <a href="http://en.swpat.org/wiki/ACTA" title="swpat.org">ACTA</a> [swpat.org] </li><li> <a href="http://en.swpat.org/wiki/studies" title="swpat.org">studies</a> [swpat.org] </li><li> <a href="http://en.swpat.org/wiki/arguments" title="swpat.org">arguments</a> [swpat.org] </li></ul><p>
  swpat.org is a publicly editable wiki, help welcome.
</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Getting patents out of ACTA is probably a very achievable goal .
When we were working on an EU directive to criminalise violations of " IP " , we raised a stink about the idea of becoming a criminal for violating any one of the 50,000 software patents which nobody could be expected to read .
That directive , like ACTA , was being pushed by the copyright industry .
The second we make them nervous about the whole thing crumbling over patents , patents will disappear over night .
That 's what 's achievable , but only if we work on it .
One very easy way to help is to document what 's happening in ACTA regarding patents , and why software patents are terrible : ACTA [ swpat.org ] studies [ swpat.org ] arguments [ swpat.org ] swpat.org is a publicly editable wiki , help welcome .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
  Getting patents out of ACTA is probably a very achievable goal.
When we were working on an EU directive to criminalise violations of "IP", we raised a stink about the idea of becoming a criminal for violating any one of the 50,000 software patents which nobody could be expected to read.
That directive, like ACTA, was being pushed by the copyright industry.
The second we make them nervous about the whole thing crumbling over patents, patents will disappear over night.
That's what's achievable, but only if we work on it.
One very easy way to help is to document what's happening in ACTA regarding patents, and why software patents are terrible:

 ACTA [swpat.org]  studies [swpat.org]  arguments [swpat.org] 
  swpat.org is a publicly editable wiki, help welcome.
</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155038</id>
	<title>Do less evil.</title>
	<author>Cobble</author>
	<datestamp>1266335400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Do no less evil.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Do no less evil .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Do no less evil.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154566</id>
	<title>Not Censorship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266332340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Strictly speaking, this is access control, not censorship.  Censorship is prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content itself.  Access control is restricting the ability to obtain content based upon permissions.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Strictly speaking , this is access control , not censorship .
Censorship is prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content itself .
Access control is restricting the ability to obtain content based upon permissions .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strictly speaking, this is access control, not censorship.
Censorship is prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content itself.
Access control is restricting the ability to obtain content based upon permissions.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31166066</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>ajs</author>
	<datestamp>1265055600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Strictly speaking, this is access control, not censorship.  Censorship is prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content itself.  Access control is restricting the ability to obtain content based upon permissions.</p></div><p>No, access control IS censorship. So is not allowing US citizens to read a book because the publisher doesn't want to grant the rights. However, if Google can make a book available to someone in Canada they want to.</p><p>On the patent front, remember:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Google is proud to take part in the following technical and advocacy organizations<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Open Invention Network is an intellectual property company that was formed to promote Linux by using patents to create a collaborative environment. It is refining the intellectual property model so that important patents are openly shared in a collaborative environment.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Strictly speaking , this is access control , not censorship .
Censorship is prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content itself .
Access control is restricting the ability to obtain content based upon permissions.No , access control IS censorship .
So is not allowing US citizens to read a book because the publisher does n't want to grant the rights .
However , if Google can make a book available to someone in Canada they want to.On the patent front , remember : Google is proud to take part in the following technical and advocacy organizations ... Open Invention Network is an intellectual property company that was formed to promote Linux by using patents to create a collaborative environment .
It is refining the intellectual property model so that important patents are openly shared in a collaborative environment .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strictly speaking, this is access control, not censorship.
Censorship is prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content itself.
Access control is restricting the ability to obtain content based upon permissions.No, access control IS censorship.
So is not allowing US citizens to read a book because the publisher doesn't want to grant the rights.
However, if Google can make a book available to someone in Canada they want to.On the patent front, remember:Google is proud to take part in the following technical and advocacy organizations ... Open Invention Network is an intellectual property company that was formed to promote Linux by using patents to create a collaborative environment.
It is refining the intellectual property model so that important patents are openly shared in a collaborative environment.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155638</id>
	<title>Poison Pill</title>
	<author>scottzak</author>
	<datestamp>1266338640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Patenting censorship.  How can this be bad?</p><p><div class="quote"><p>So, Mister Ballmer, if you want to filter Chinese search engine results, you must license our patent.  The license will only cost you ten schmazillion dollars.</p><p>What?  The price is too high?  Then I'm afraid you won't be able to legally filter your results, now will you?</p><p>What?  You don't think this is a valid patent?  Maybe all business process patents are invalid.  Let's litigate it.</p> </div><p>. . . and so on . . . or maybe something far less hopeful.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Patenting censorship .
How can this be bad ? So , Mister Ballmer , if you want to filter Chinese search engine results , you must license our patent .
The license will only cost you ten schmazillion dollars.What ?
The price is too high ?
Then I 'm afraid you wo n't be able to legally filter your results , now will you ? What ?
You do n't think this is a valid patent ?
Maybe all business process patents are invalid .
Let 's litigate it .
. .
. and so on .
. .
or maybe something far less hopeful .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Patenting censorship.
How can this be bad?So, Mister Ballmer, if you want to filter Chinese search engine results, you must license our patent.
The license will only cost you ten schmazillion dollars.What?
The price is too high?
Then I'm afraid you won't be able to legally filter your results, now will you?What?
You don't think this is a valid patent?
Maybe all business process patents are invalid.
Let's litigate it.
. .
. and so on .
. .
or maybe something far less hopeful.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155264</id>
	<title>Re:Patenting ACTA?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266336480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It is only a U.S. patent, so your "hire a legion of lawyers around the world" is moot.  Google could only enforce it here in the U.S.  I think Slashdot should give a patent primer so that people don't freak out and misunderstand patent related issues all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It is only a U.S. patent , so your " hire a legion of lawyers around the world " is moot .
Google could only enforce it here in the U.S. I think Slashdot should give a patent primer so that people do n't freak out and misunderstand patent related issues all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is only a U.S. patent, so your "hire a legion of lawyers around the world" is moot.
Google could only enforce it here in the U.S.  I think Slashdot should give a patent primer so that people don't freak out and misunderstand patent related issues all the time.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154878</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266334380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Access control is one of many methods available for enforcing censorship.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Access control is one of many methods available for enforcing censorship .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Access control is one of many methods available for enforcing censorship.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31157020</id>
	<title>Adsense patent from 2002 is prior art</title>
	<author>barwasp</author>
	<datestamp>1266344940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Taken from Googe's own <a href="http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;p=1&amp;u=\%2Fnetahtml\%2FPTO\%2Fsearch-bool.html&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;co1=AND&amp;d=PG01&amp;s1=20040059708&amp;OS=20040059708&amp;RS=20040059708" title="uspto.gov" rel="nofollow">patent</a> [uspto.gov]<p><div class="quote"><p>For example, if the content of the advertisement includes "Buy honda cars at the lowest prices of the year!", the terms "honda" or "honda cars" may be extracted from that content. <b>The targeting information may also include other demographic information, such as geographic location</b>, affluence, etc. Thus, the targeting information is simply some information from which a topic may be derived.</p></div><p>.
.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Among the other things that could be provided by an advertiser through ad entry and management component 210 are the following: one or more advertising creatives (simply referred to as "ads" or "advertisements"), one or more set of keywords or topics associated with those creatives (which may be used as targeting information for the ads), <b>geographic targeting information</b>, a value indication for the advertisement, start date, end date, etc.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Taken from Googe 's own patent [ uspto.gov ] For example , if the content of the advertisement includes " Buy honda cars at the lowest prices of the year !
" , the terms " honda " or " honda cars " may be extracted from that content .
The targeting information may also include other demographic information , such as geographic location , affluence , etc .
Thus , the targeting information is simply some information from which a topic may be derived. . . .Among the other things that could be provided by an advertiser through ad entry and management component 210 are the following : one or more advertising creatives ( simply referred to as " ads " or " advertisements " ) , one or more set of keywords or topics associated with those creatives ( which may be used as targeting information for the ads ) , geographic targeting information , a value indication for the advertisement , start date , end date , etc .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Taken from Googe's own patent [uspto.gov]For example, if the content of the advertisement includes "Buy honda cars at the lowest prices of the year!
", the terms "honda" or "honda cars" may be extracted from that content.
The targeting information may also include other demographic information, such as geographic location, affluence, etc.
Thus, the targeting information is simply some information from which a topic may be derived..
. .Among the other things that could be provided by an advertiser through ad entry and management component 210 are the following: one or more advertising creatives (simply referred to as "ads" or "advertisements"), one or more set of keywords or topics associated with those creatives (which may be used as targeting information for the ads), geographic targeting information, a value indication for the advertisement, start date, end date, etc.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154658</id>
	<title>Video and Books</title>
	<author>Giltron</author>
	<datestamp>1266332880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Makes sense they are doing this with Youtube and online video rentals.
Also could work for Google hosting book content online and only having the rights secured in select countries.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Makes sense they are doing this with Youtube and online video rentals .
Also could work for Google hosting book content online and only having the rights secured in select countries .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Makes sense they are doing this with Youtube and online video rentals.
Also could work for Google hosting book content online and only having the rights secured in select countries.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154574</id>
	<title>The tables have turned my friend</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266332400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> the content provider has been granted full rights in the document from the publisher for Canadian readers but has not been granted rights in the United States</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>the content provider has been granted full rights in the document from the publisher for Canadian readers but has not been granted rights in the United States</tokentext>
<sentencetext> the content provider has been granted full rights in the document from the publisher for Canadian readers but has not been granted rights in the United States
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31156898</id>
	<title>Re:How is this different?</title>
	<author>skremon</author>
	<datestamp>1266344520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Agree with you, actually this seems too general to be a patent to me, and I believe a lot of other popular web-sites are already doing it in some form (Hulu for example).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Agree with you , actually this seems too general to be a patent to me , and I believe a lot of other popular web-sites are already doing it in some form ( Hulu for example ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Agree with you, actually this seems too general to be a patent to me, and I believe a lot of other popular web-sites are already doing it in some form (Hulu for example).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155256</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154718</id>
	<title>Ok, Google is really starting to creep me out...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266333180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can anyone suggest a decent provider for email that doesn't have the privacy concerns?  Should I just suck it up and move to my ISP's mail?  Calendar and all that I can do without and find alternatives for easily enough, but setting up my own mail server is a fair bit beyond my experience...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can anyone suggest a decent provider for email that does n't have the privacy concerns ?
Should I just suck it up and move to my ISP 's mail ?
Calendar and all that I can do without and find alternatives for easily enough , but setting up my own mail server is a fair bit beyond my experience.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can anyone suggest a decent provider for email that doesn't have the privacy concerns?
Should I just suck it up and move to my ISP's mail?
Calendar and all that I can do without and find alternatives for easily enough, but setting up my own mail server is a fair bit beyond my experience...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31156194</id>
	<title>Would /ignore *.tr be prior art?</title>
	<author>Mad-Bassist</author>
	<datestamp>1266341820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I mean, we had to exercise that ability one night on IRC. It's right up there with<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/kline *@aol.com<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:aaaaah!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I mean , we had to exercise that ability one night on IRC .
It 's right up there with /kline * @ aol.com : aaaaah !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I mean, we had to exercise that ability one night on IRC.
It's right up there with /kline *@aol.com :aaaaah!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154886</id>
	<title>Bogus</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266334440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This patent is completely bogus, the whole internet is an example of prior use...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This patent is completely bogus , the whole internet is an example of prior use.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This patent is completely bogus, the whole internet is an example of prior use...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155398</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266337320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But what is the difference between information that the people cannot access because it is censored, and information they cannot access because they cannot afford it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But what is the difference between information that the people can not access because it is censored , and information they can not access because they can not afford it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But what is the difference between information that the people cannot access because it is censored, and information they cannot access because they cannot afford it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154566</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155426</id>
	<title>He said posting from a windows machine</title>
	<author>SmallFurryCreature</author>
	<datestamp>1266337560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quick, tell me, you being creeped out, has that stopped you from using Windows? No?
</p><p>Rather selective in your creeping out aren't you?
</p><p>Notice that MS has NO problems censoring with Bing. Neither does MS link to chillingeffects when it is forced to censor something.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Quick , tell me , you being creeped out , has that stopped you from using Windows ?
No ? Rather selective in your creeping out are n't you ?
Notice that MS has NO problems censoring with Bing .
Neither does MS link to chillingeffects when it is forced to censor something .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quick, tell me, you being creeped out, has that stopped you from using Windows?
No?
Rather selective in your creeping out aren't you?
Notice that MS has NO problems censoring with Bing.
Neither does MS link to chillingeffects when it is forced to censor something.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155382</id>
	<title>So amusing.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266337260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>I love how people actually believe it when corporations say that they won't do anything evil.  It might be sooner, it might be later, but it'll always, always happen.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I love how people actually believe it when corporations say that they wo n't do anything evil .
It might be sooner , it might be later , but it 'll always , always happen .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I love how people actually believe it when corporations say that they won't do anything evil.
It might be sooner, it might be later, but it'll always, always happen.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155260</id>
	<title>Re:Google may not intend to use this patent.</title>
	<author>Idbar</author>
	<datestamp>1266336480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know why you were modded funny. If Apple patented ad-based OS and ad-based phones, why Google cannot patent mechanisms to block people from accessing data. If some believed that Apple patented that, to discourage its use, why Google wouldn't do the same.<br> <br>
So, with the current growth of people trying to make money out of advertisement, then Apple came with its patents. With the explosion of people making money with locked devices, why not profit out of it?</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know why you were modded funny .
If Apple patented ad-based OS and ad-based phones , why Google can not patent mechanisms to block people from accessing data .
If some believed that Apple patented that , to discourage its use , why Google would n't do the same .
So , with the current growth of people trying to make money out of advertisement , then Apple came with its patents .
With the explosion of people making money with locked devices , why not profit out of it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know why you were modded funny.
If Apple patented ad-based OS and ad-based phones, why Google cannot patent mechanisms to block people from accessing data.
If some believed that Apple patented that, to discourage its use, why Google wouldn't do the same.
So, with the current growth of people trying to make money out of advertisement, then Apple came with its patents.
With the explosion of people making money with locked devices, why not profit out of it?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154712</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31164004</id>
	<title>Re:Patenting ACTA?</title>
	<author>shentino</author>
	<datestamp>1266336360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Eminent domain applies to IP.</p><p>anyone pulling that crap would probably have his patent confiscated in the interests of national security.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Eminent domain applies to IP.anyone pulling that crap would probably have his patent confiscated in the interests of national security .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Eminent domain applies to IP.anyone pulling that crap would probably have his patent confiscated in the interests of national security.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155196</id>
	<title>Re:Not so, Google has reinstituted blocking in Chi</title>
	<author>TheVelvetFlamebait</author>
	<datestamp>1266336240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey, but at least they're now the only ones allowed to do it!</p><p>(Yes, I know everything that was wrong with that statement.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey , but at least they 're now the only ones allowed to do it !
( Yes , I know everything that was wrong with that statement .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey, but at least they're now the only ones allowed to do it!
(Yes, I know everything that was wrong with that statement.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154844</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154852</id>
	<title>Time to rearchitect the net</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266334200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To protect the free flow of information which is at the core of a free society and an efficient and stable economy, location information must be eliminated from the network protocol.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To protect the free flow of information which is at the core of a free society and an efficient and stable economy , location information must be eliminated from the network protocol .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To protect the free flow of information which is at the core of a free society and an efficient and stable economy, location information must be eliminated from the network protocol.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155004</id>
	<title>HULU violates Google's patent</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266335220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey that's great!! Now HULU can't block US content from reaching Canadians without violating Google's patent. Litigation should start immediately and I hope the settlement is in the billions. It will probably be cheaper for HULU to pay the licensing fees to the US based producers and just send the content over the border, which is all Canadians have been asking for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey that 's great ! !
Now HULU ca n't block US content from reaching Canadians without violating Google 's patent .
Litigation should start immediately and I hope the settlement is in the billions .
It will probably be cheaper for HULU to pay the licensing fees to the US based producers and just send the content over the border , which is all Canadians have been asking for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey that's great!!
Now HULU can't block US content from reaching Canadians without violating Google's patent.
Litigation should start immediately and I hope the settlement is in the billions.
It will probably be cheaper for HULU to pay the licensing fees to the US based producers and just send the content over the border, which is all Canadians have been asking for.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31158086</id>
	<title>Re:No mechanism proposed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266348780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"since when can you patent all possible methods of doing something?"</p><p>You can't, but what you can do is patent all possible mechanisms used to perform a certain method, and that is what this patent is doing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" since when can you patent all possible methods of doing something ?
" You ca n't , but what you can do is patent all possible mechanisms used to perform a certain method , and that is what this patent is doing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"since when can you patent all possible methods of doing something?
"You can't, but what you can do is patent all possible mechanisms used to perform a certain method, and that is what this patent is doing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154848</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155998</id>
	<title>prior art</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266340680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>united hackers association<br>i block country traffic and other specific ips all time</p><p>ya know where good and great people live</p><p>like to see this enforced in court mister google<br>as the saying goes<br>just cause you can do a thing doesn't mean you should</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>united hackers associationi block country traffic and other specific ips all timeya know where good and great people livelike to see this enforced in court mister googleas the saying goesjust cause you can do a thing does n't mean you should</tokentext>
<sentencetext>united hackers associationi block country traffic and other specific ips all timeya know where good and great people livelike to see this enforced in court mister googleas the saying goesjust cause you can do a thing doesn't mean you should</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31162512</id>
	<title>Prior art</title>
	<author>jklovanc</author>
	<datestamp>1266325920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This has been going on for years namely any time anyone tries to download content that the the US government considers military in nature including encryption software.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This has been going on for years namely any time anyone tries to download content that the the US government considers military in nature including encryption software .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This has been going on for years namely any time anyone tries to download content that the the US government considers military in nature including encryption software.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154570</id>
	<title>News flash! it is borked already</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266332400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>They are calling it a proxy server.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>They are calling it a proxy server .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They are calling it a proxy server.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31158166</id>
	<title>Do What I Say, Not What I Do</title>
	<author>kidphoton</author>
	<datestamp>1266349080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A variable user interface based on where the request is coming from. When you do that to Google, don't they call that cloaking?</htmltext>
<tokenext>A variable user interface based on where the request is coming from .
When you do that to Google , do n't they call that cloaking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A variable user interface based on where the request is coming from.
When you do that to Google, don't they call that cloaking?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155256</id>
	<title>How is this different?</title>
	<author>T Murphy</author>
	<datestamp>1266336480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Recently, working on a paper, I came across some papers on the National Bureau of Economic Research website that said they were $5 to access for me, but they are free for anyone in a developing or undeveloped country. I didn't try to find a proxy in Azerbaijan so I don't know how the site looks if you are from a country that gets free access, but I am curious how that works and how it differs from this patent.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Recently , working on a paper , I came across some papers on the National Bureau of Economic Research website that said they were $ 5 to access for me , but they are free for anyone in a developing or undeveloped country .
I did n't try to find a proxy in Azerbaijan so I do n't know how the site looks if you are from a country that gets free access , but I am curious how that works and how it differs from this patent .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Recently, working on a paper, I came across some papers on the National Bureau of Economic Research website that said they were $5 to access for me, but they are free for anyone in a developing or undeveloped country.
I didn't try to find a proxy in Azerbaijan so I don't know how the site looks if you are from a country that gets free access, but I am curious how that works and how it differs from this patent.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154584</id>
	<title>Prior art</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266332460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thomas Bowdler</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thomas Bowdler</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thomas Bowdler</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154742</id>
	<title>Re:Patenting ACTA?</title>
	<author>jcwayne</author>
	<datestamp>1266333420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If ACTA were open source this recursive bug would never have made it to a stable release.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If ACTA were open source this recursive bug would never have made it to a stable release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If ACTA were open source this recursive bug would never have made it to a stable release.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154532</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155716</id>
	<title>Can they do the same for Yawni?</title>
	<author>Tony</author>
	<datestamp>1266339060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><b>Google Patents Country-Specific Content Blocking</b></p><p>Cool. I'm glad someone's taking a stand for decent music everywhere.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Google Patents Country-Specific Content BlockingCool .
I 'm glad someone 's taking a stand for decent music everywhere .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Google Patents Country-Specific Content BlockingCool.
I'm glad someone's taking a stand for decent music everywhere.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31159276</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266353640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Strictly speaking, "prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content" is a form of access control. E.g, the State decides you don't have the rights to access dangerous literature or information, therefore helps you by limiting your access.</p><p>A police state will never admit it is censoring its citizens, it will always have a very good reason to prevent the access.</p><p>Dan</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Strictly speaking , " prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content " is a form of access control .
E.g , the State decides you do n't have the rights to access dangerous literature or information , therefore helps you by limiting your access.A police state will never admit it is censoring its citizens , it will always have a very good reason to prevent the access.Dan</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Strictly speaking, "prohibiting access based upon some moral or other judgment about the content" is a form of access control.
E.g, the State decides you don't have the rights to access dangerous literature or information, therefore helps you by limiting your access.A police state will never admit it is censoring its citizens, it will always have a very good reason to prevent the access.Dan</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155232</id>
	<title>AWESOME IDEA</title>
	<author>Idiomatick</author>
	<datestamp>1266336360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is very very good for pain in the ass to get free speech. Why? Because if Google has everything up in Laos that Americans can't see and everything in America that Laotians can't see then all you need is a proxy to see anything. So Google Books for example could become what it really should be. A library with all books (proxy required). Youtube could keep up pretty much all videos, needing to get a cease and desist from every country.<br> <br>Oh and it needn't be used to do extra censoring to hurt freedom of speech. There is nothing stopping Google from doing as it has with China, ignore w/e rules there are and push freedom of speech.<br> <br>I'm all for... lowest common denominator censorship. This seems like it would have little effect to people getting censored. And it would really damage the MAFIAA, people in first world countries could bypass the bought and paid for laws.<br> <br>Disclaimer: If countries successfully find a way to stop proxying it could suck. But I find that unlikely.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is very very good for pain in the ass to get free speech .
Why ? Because if Google has everything up in Laos that Americans ca n't see and everything in America that Laotians ca n't see then all you need is a proxy to see anything .
So Google Books for example could become what it really should be .
A library with all books ( proxy required ) .
Youtube could keep up pretty much all videos , needing to get a cease and desist from every country .
Oh and it need n't be used to do extra censoring to hurt freedom of speech .
There is nothing stopping Google from doing as it has with China , ignore w/e rules there are and push freedom of speech .
I 'm all for... lowest common denominator censorship .
This seems like it would have little effect to people getting censored .
And it would really damage the MAFIAA , people in first world countries could bypass the bought and paid for laws .
Disclaimer : If countries successfully find a way to stop proxying it could suck .
But I find that unlikely .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is very very good for pain in the ass to get free speech.
Why? Because if Google has everything up in Laos that Americans can't see and everything in America that Laotians can't see then all you need is a proxy to see anything.
So Google Books for example could become what it really should be.
A library with all books (proxy required).
Youtube could keep up pretty much all videos, needing to get a cease and desist from every country.
Oh and it needn't be used to do extra censoring to hurt freedom of speech.
There is nothing stopping Google from doing as it has with China, ignore w/e rules there are and push freedom of speech.
I'm all for... lowest common denominator censorship.
This seems like it would have little effect to people getting censored.
And it would really damage the MAFIAA, people in first world countries could bypass the bought and paid for laws.
Disclaimer: If countries successfully find a way to stop proxying it could suck.
But I find that unlikely.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154532</id>
	<title>Patenting ACTA?</title>
	<author>eldavojohn</author>
	<datestamp>1266332040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Step 1: Read leaked ACTA documents. <br>
Step 2: Patent technologies and software logic that must follow to enforce ACTA. <br>
Decision Gate A: Do you want to be stinking rich or fight for internet liberties?  For stinking rich, proceed to step 3a.  For valient political statement proceed to step 3b. <br>
Step 3a: License patents under reasonable royalties and hire a legion of lawyers in countries around the world.  <br>
Step 3b: List licensing fees of one trillion dollars per patent and hire a legion of lawyers around the world to enforce it.  Sit back and watch ACTA defeat itself (assuming it covers software intellectual property worldwide).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Step 1 : Read leaked ACTA documents .
Step 2 : Patent technologies and software logic that must follow to enforce ACTA .
Decision Gate A : Do you want to be stinking rich or fight for internet liberties ?
For stinking rich , proceed to step 3a .
For valient political statement proceed to step 3b .
Step 3a : License patents under reasonable royalties and hire a legion of lawyers in countries around the world .
Step 3b : List licensing fees of one trillion dollars per patent and hire a legion of lawyers around the world to enforce it .
Sit back and watch ACTA defeat itself ( assuming it covers software intellectual property worldwide ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Step 1: Read leaked ACTA documents.
Step 2: Patent technologies and software logic that must follow to enforce ACTA.
Decision Gate A: Do you want to be stinking rich or fight for internet liberties?
For stinking rich, proceed to step 3a.
For valient political statement proceed to step 3b.
Step 3a: License patents under reasonable royalties and hire a legion of lawyers in countries around the world.
Step 3b: List licensing fees of one trillion dollars per patent and hire a legion of lawyers around the world to enforce it.
Sit back and watch ACTA defeat itself (assuming it covers software intellectual property worldwide).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154560</id>
	<title>Frist Ps0t!111</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266332280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Frist Ps0t!!!1 =)</htmltext>
<tokenext>Frist Ps0t ! !
! 1 = )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Frist Ps0t!!
!1 =)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154860</id>
	<title>Re:Ok, Google is really starting to creep me out..</title>
	<author>Ash-Fox</author>
	<datestamp>1266334260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Can anyone suggest a decent provider for email that doesn't have the privacy concerns?</p></div></blockquote><p>I run my own servers, I don't trust 'free' providers and after seeing the quality of service done by 'paid' providers, I don't trust them either.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Can anyone suggest a decent provider for email that does n't have the privacy concerns ? I run my own servers , I do n't trust 'free ' providers and after seeing the quality of service done by 'paid ' providers , I do n't trust them either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can anyone suggest a decent provider for email that doesn't have the privacy concerns?I run my own servers, I don't trust 'free' providers and after seeing the quality of service done by 'paid' providers, I don't trust them either.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31165182</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>lonecrow</author>
	<datestamp>1266344100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Prior art.<br>
<br>
If countryFromIP(IP) = 'CA' then<br>
  response.write "My content"<br>
else<br>
 response.redirect("sorry for canucks only")<br>
end if<br>
<br> <br>

I have web applications that make extensive use of country specific branching. For example the name of the region I live has a name that is similar to one in Australia. So if the user's IP is from Australia I place a link at the top of the page to a partnering site in AU.  If someone is posting a classified ad I reject it if they are not from Canada (its a local site).<br> <br>
So is this just an overly broad patent or is there some specific technique (other then IP address) that they are patenting?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Prior art .
If countryFromIP ( IP ) = 'CA ' then response.write " My content " else response.redirect ( " sorry for canucks only " ) end if I have web applications that make extensive use of country specific branching .
For example the name of the region I live has a name that is similar to one in Australia .
So if the user 's IP is from Australia I place a link at the top of the page to a partnering site in AU .
If someone is posting a classified ad I reject it if they are not from Canada ( its a local site ) .
So is this just an overly broad patent or is there some specific technique ( other then IP address ) that they are patenting ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prior art.
If countryFromIP(IP) = 'CA' then
  response.write "My content"
else
 response.redirect("sorry for canucks only")
end if
 

I have web applications that make extensive use of country specific branching.
For example the name of the region I live has a name that is similar to one in Australia.
So if the user's IP is from Australia I place a link at the top of the page to a partnering site in AU.
If someone is posting a classified ad I reject it if they are not from Canada (its a local site).
So is this just an overly broad patent or is there some specific technique (other then IP address) that they are patenting?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155298</id>
	<title>So basically...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266336780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... Google patented access by geolocation, used by tons of video sites (like youtube, veoh, vimeo, etc) for limiting certain videos to certain countries (mainly the USA it seems...)? Geolocation is also used by a couple of websites to present a certain document in a different language... does that count?</p><p>Oh how I long for Google to call me and ask for money when I do that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... Google patented access by geolocation , used by tons of video sites ( like youtube , veoh , vimeo , etc ) for limiting certain videos to certain countries ( mainly the USA it seems... ) ?
Geolocation is also used by a couple of websites to present a certain document in a different language... does that count ? Oh how I long for Google to call me and ask for money when I do that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... Google patented access by geolocation, used by tons of video sites (like youtube, veoh, vimeo, etc) for limiting certain videos to certain countries (mainly the USA it seems...)?
Geolocation is also used by a couple of websites to present a certain document in a different language... does that count?Oh how I long for Google to call me and ask for money when I do that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154606</id>
	<title>Now never licence or use it.</title>
	<author>xzvf</author>
	<datestamp>1266332520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Better yet donate it to some freedom loving international society with the rule it never be implemented, so some future shareholder won't be temped to make money with it.  Then all the other companies can say "Sorry government, can't limit access because that is patented."  Ok that's silly, the guys with the guns can do what they want, but maybe this patent can keep us free another 17 years.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Better yet donate it to some freedom loving international society with the rule it never be implemented , so some future shareholder wo n't be temped to make money with it .
Then all the other companies can say " Sorry government , ca n't limit access because that is patented .
" Ok that 's silly , the guys with the guns can do what they want , but maybe this patent can keep us free another 17 years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Better yet donate it to some freedom loving international society with the rule it never be implemented, so some future shareholder won't be temped to make money with it.
Then all the other companies can say "Sorry government, can't limit access because that is patented.
"  Ok that's silly, the guys with the guns can do what they want, but maybe this patent can keep us free another 17 years.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31170354</id>
	<title>Olympic Games</title>
	<author>RogerWilco</author>
	<datestamp>1265043900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hah!</p><p>This reminded me of something I saw on TV the other day. Some sporter got interviewed live by a reporter/TV anchor over a satellite link after winning a medal and asked if he had already seen the recording of his race on the [TV station]'s website. He replied that he tried but failed, because they blocked access from Canada to the media on the [TV station]'s website. That was obviously not in the script as the reporter was lost for words for a few moments.</p><p>Same thing happens with Britons trying to view the BBC website from abroad (iPlayer and such) because I know some of my British colleagues complain about it.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hah ! This reminded me of something I saw on TV the other day .
Some sporter got interviewed live by a reporter/TV anchor over a satellite link after winning a medal and asked if he had already seen the recording of his race on the [ TV station ] 's website .
He replied that he tried but failed , because they blocked access from Canada to the media on the [ TV station ] 's website .
That was obviously not in the script as the reporter was lost for words for a few moments.Same thing happens with Britons trying to view the BBC website from abroad ( iPlayer and such ) because I know some of my British colleagues complain about it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hah!This reminded me of something I saw on TV the other day.
Some sporter got interviewed live by a reporter/TV anchor over a satellite link after winning a medal and asked if he had already seen the recording of his race on the [TV station]'s website.
He replied that he tried but failed, because they blocked access from Canada to the media on the [TV station]'s website.
That was obviously not in the script as the reporter was lost for words for a few moments.Same thing happens with Britons trying to view the BBC website from abroad (iPlayer and such) because I know some of my British colleagues complain about it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31158598</id>
	<title>Re:Patenting ACTA?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266350700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So much for Google not censoring searches based on government policy.</p><p>"Do No Evil" must be in smaller font further down on their home page these days, eh?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So much for Google not censoring searches based on government policy .
" Do No Evil " must be in smaller font further down on their home page these days , eh ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So much for Google not censoring searches based on government policy.
"Do No Evil" must be in smaller font further down on their home page these days, eh?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155090</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>bdrewery</author>
	<datestamp>1266335700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Exactly. This is just like Hulu blocking Non-US. It's more about licensing and less about evil guys.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
This is just like Hulu blocking Non-US .
It 's more about licensing and less about evil guys .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
This is just like Hulu blocking Non-US.
It's more about licensing and less about evil guys.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154848</id>
	<title>No mechanism proposed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266334200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The patent makes no sense, because it includes no description of a mechanism for achieving the stated objective. You should be able to get a patent on a particular method of doing something, but since when can you patent all possible methods of doing something? Especially when there aren't any. We have been doing this at work for over a decade, using IP address information from whois servers. It isn't very accurate, but it works well enough for us.</p><p>Daniel Feenberg</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The patent makes no sense , because it includes no description of a mechanism for achieving the stated objective .
You should be able to get a patent on a particular method of doing something , but since when can you patent all possible methods of doing something ?
Especially when there are n't any .
We have been doing this at work for over a decade , using IP address information from whois servers .
It is n't very accurate , but it works well enough for us.Daniel Feenberg</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The patent makes no sense, because it includes no description of a mechanism for achieving the stated objective.
You should be able to get a patent on a particular method of doing something, but since when can you patent all possible methods of doing something?
Especially when there aren't any.
We have been doing this at work for over a decade, using IP address information from whois servers.
It isn't very accurate, but it works well enough for us.Daniel Feenberg</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31155832</id>
	<title>Two wrongs DO make a right</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266339720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For once, something we don't want gets patented and withheld from the public.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For once , something we do n't want gets patented and withheld from the public .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For once, something we don't want gets patented and withheld from the public.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154604</id>
	<title>Yay !</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266332520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just filed a patent today too<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... if it pans out, I'm gonna be rich.</p><p>"A method by which the mechanisms described in US Patent No. 7,664,751 can be circumvented by any fool who has access to a proxy server, thus making the payment of any licensing fees to Google an exercise in futility".</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just filed a patent today too ... if it pans out , I 'm gon na be rich .
" A method by which the mechanisms described in US Patent No .
7,664,751 can be circumvented by any fool who has access to a proxy server , thus making the payment of any licensing fees to Google an exercise in futility " .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just filed a patent today too ... if it pans out, I'm gonna be rich.
"A method by which the mechanisms described in US Patent No.
7,664,751 can be circumvented by any fool who has access to a proxy server, thus making the payment of any licensing fees to Google an exercise in futility".</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31157488</id>
	<title>Safe-mail</title>
	<author>mister\_playboy</author>
	<datestamp>1266346500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You may want to have a look at <a href="https://www.safe-mail.net/" title="safe-mail.net">Safe-mail</a> [safe-mail.net].  It has a nice clean interface like Gmail does.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You may want to have a look at Safe-mail [ safe-mail.net ] .
It has a nice clean interface like Gmail does .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You may want to have a look at Safe-mail [safe-mail.net].
It has a nice clean interface like Gmail does.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154718</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31156582</id>
	<title>Re:Not Censorship</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266343500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ok and for sure China will not use this as CENSORSHIP, just high sensitive materials</p><p>he he he HEuloooo!!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ok and for sure China will not use this as CENSORSHIP , just high sensitive materialshe he he HEuloooo !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ok and for sure China will not use this as CENSORSHIP, just high sensitive materialshe he he HEuloooo!
!</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154870</id>
	<title>Enforce It</title>
	<author>whisper\_jeff</author>
	<datestamp>1266334320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I hope Google enforces the hell out of this patent. No, really - enforce it rigorously and we may have an internet that actually is a world wide web. Perhaps then I'll be able to view content on Hulu, for example. I may think patents are borked beyond saving but I'll be more than fine with this one being enforced.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I hope Google enforces the hell out of this patent .
No , really - enforce it rigorously and we may have an internet that actually is a world wide web .
Perhaps then I 'll be able to view content on Hulu , for example .
I may think patents are borked beyond saving but I 'll be more than fine with this one being enforced .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I hope Google enforces the hell out of this patent.
No, really - enforce it rigorously and we may have an internet that actually is a world wide web.
Perhaps then I'll be able to view content on Hulu, for example.
I may think patents are borked beyond saving but I'll be more than fine with this one being enforced.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31154838</id>
	<title>Google on my DoEvilList</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266334140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now google got on my EvilList.. Before it contained Microsoft and SCO.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now google got on my EvilList.. Before it contained Microsoft and SCO .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now google got on my EvilList.. Before it contained Microsoft and SCO.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_16_1311236.31158014</id>
	<title>Google Search Language Preferences</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266348540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Anyone else notice the change to Search Language Preferences after the Google/China incident? It may just be a coincidence but the "Search for pages written in any language (Recommended)" option is no longer the default or an available option. The only option now is "Prefer pages written in these language(s)" with one of the languages sometimes selected and unselectable by default depending on your "Interface Language" setting or which localized version of Google you visit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anyone else notice the change to Search Language Preferences after the Google/China incident ?
It may just be a coincidence but the " Search for pages written in any language ( Recommended ) " option is no longer the default or an available option .
The only option now is " Prefer pages written in these language ( s ) " with one of the languages sometimes selected and unselectable by default depending on your " Interface Language " setting or which localized version of Google you visit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anyone else notice the change to Search Language Preferences after the Google/China incident?
It may just be a coincidence but the "Search for pages written in any language (Recommended)" option is no longer the default or an available option.
The only option now is "Prefer pages written in these language(s)" with one of the languages sometimes selected and unselectable by default depending on your "Interface Language" setting or which localized version of Google you visit.</sentencetext>
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