<article>
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	<title>How an Android Phone and Facebook Helped Route Haiti Rescuers</title>
	<author>ScuttleMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266232500000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>One intrepid Android fan is extolling the virtues of the open smartphone platform that helped him to <a href="http://nuvohaiti.blogspot.com/2010/02/tale-of-android-phone-in-earthquake-in.html">route SOS messages in the recent Haiti disaster</a>.  <i>"Well, when you are in such a situation, you don't really think about going to Facebook, but it happens that I have a Facebook widget on my Android home screen that regularly displays status updates from my friends. All of a sudden, an SOS message appeared on my home screen as a status update of a friend on my network. Not all smartphones allow you to customize your home screen, let alone letting you put widgets on it. So, I texted Steven about it.  As Steven had already been working with the US State Department on Internet development activities in Haiti, he quickly called a senior staff member at the State Department and asked how to get help to the people requesting it from Haiti. State Department personnel requested a short description and a physical street address or GPS coordinates. Via email and text messaging, I was able to relay this information from Port-au-Prince to Steven in Oregon, who relayed it to the State Department in Washington DC, and it was quickly forwarded to the US military at the Port-au-Prince airport and dispatched to the search-and-rescue (SAR) teams being assembled. So the data went from my Android phone to Oregon to Washington DC and then back to the US military command center at the Port-au-Prince airport. I was at first a little skeptical about their reaction: there was so much destruction; they probably already had their hands full. Unexpectedly, they replied back saying: 'We found them, and they are alive! Keep it coming.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>One intrepid Android fan is extolling the virtues of the open smartphone platform that helped him to route SOS messages in the recent Haiti disaster .
" Well , when you are in such a situation , you do n't really think about going to Facebook , but it happens that I have a Facebook widget on my Android home screen that regularly displays status updates from my friends .
All of a sudden , an SOS message appeared on my home screen as a status update of a friend on my network .
Not all smartphones allow you to customize your home screen , let alone letting you put widgets on it .
So , I texted Steven about it .
As Steven had already been working with the US State Department on Internet development activities in Haiti , he quickly called a senior staff member at the State Department and asked how to get help to the people requesting it from Haiti .
State Department personnel requested a short description and a physical street address or GPS coordinates .
Via email and text messaging , I was able to relay this information from Port-au-Prince to Steven in Oregon , who relayed it to the State Department in Washington DC , and it was quickly forwarded to the US military at the Port-au-Prince airport and dispatched to the search-and-rescue ( SAR ) teams being assembled .
So the data went from my Android phone to Oregon to Washington DC and then back to the US military command center at the Port-au-Prince airport .
I was at first a little skeptical about their reaction : there was so much destruction ; they probably already had their hands full .
Unexpectedly , they replied back saying : 'We found them , and they are alive !
Keep it coming .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One intrepid Android fan is extolling the virtues of the open smartphone platform that helped him to route SOS messages in the recent Haiti disaster.
"Well, when you are in such a situation, you don't really think about going to Facebook, but it happens that I have a Facebook widget on my Android home screen that regularly displays status updates from my friends.
All of a sudden, an SOS message appeared on my home screen as a status update of a friend on my network.
Not all smartphones allow you to customize your home screen, let alone letting you put widgets on it.
So, I texted Steven about it.
As Steven had already been working with the US State Department on Internet development activities in Haiti, he quickly called a senior staff member at the State Department and asked how to get help to the people requesting it from Haiti.
State Department personnel requested a short description and a physical street address or GPS coordinates.
Via email and text messaging, I was able to relay this information from Port-au-Prince to Steven in Oregon, who relayed it to the State Department in Washington DC, and it was quickly forwarded to the US military at the Port-au-Prince airport and dispatched to the search-and-rescue (SAR) teams being assembled.
So the data went from my Android phone to Oregon to Washington DC and then back to the US military command center at the Port-au-Prince airport.
I was at first a little skeptical about their reaction: there was so much destruction; they probably already had their hands full.
Unexpectedly, they replied back saying: 'We found them, and they are alive!
Keep it coming.
'"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150694</id>
	<title>Re:FanBoid?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266239820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>bump<br>and thank you, Slashdot, for boldly echoing the author's ridiculous spin.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>bumpand thank you , Slashdot , for boldly echoing the author 's ridiculous spin .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>bumpand thank you, Slashdot, for boldly echoing the author's ridiculous spin.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31152500</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not sure what the Android spin is...</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1266259080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For people who don't get the custom desktop concept on Android, here's a sampling of people posting their desktops <a href="http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f37/official-post-your-homescreen-desktop-16326/" title="androidcommunity.com">on Android phones</a> [androidcommunity.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For people who do n't get the custom desktop concept on Android , here 's a sampling of people posting their desktops on Android phones [ androidcommunity.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For people who don't get the custom desktop concept on Android, here's a sampling of people posting their desktops on Android phones [androidcommunity.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150970</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>iamhassi</author>
	<datestamp>1266242280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>"First time,Facebook was proved useful...."</i>
<br> <br>
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/07/2678945.htm" title="abc.net.au">Wrong</a> [abc.net.au]
<br> <br>
But just like that story, if they have access to facebook why not just call the police?</htmltext>
<tokenext>" First time,Facebook was proved useful.... " Wrong [ abc.net.au ] But just like that story , if they have access to facebook why not just call the police ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"First time,Facebook was proved useful...."
 
Wrong [abc.net.au]
 
But just like that story, if they have access to facebook why not just call the police?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31152204</id>
	<title>Not a joke</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266255840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>if they have access to facebook why not just call the police?</i></p><p>It's perfectly understandable that you would ask such a question.  To find the answer you would have to do something incredibly difficult and unusual, such as <a href="http://nuvohaiti.blogspot.com/2010/02/tale-of-android-phone-in-earthquake-in.html" title="blogspot.com">RTFA</a> [blogspot.com].</p><p>But I'll help you out.  Here's the relevant part of TFA:</p><blockquote><div><p>In the first few hours that followed the earthquake, mobile service was completely disrupted. It was almost impossible to place a call, due to the combination of the damages on the cellular networks and the spike in phone calls. However, on some networks, SMS service was still available. People stuck under rubbles started texting to their friends and family (in Haiti and abroad) to tell them they were still alive and needed help. In Haiti, on a population of 8 million, there were about 4 million mobile phone subscribers. Those friends and family, not knowing what to do, started posting these SOS messages on their social networks, mainly on Facebook.</p></div></blockquote><p>In a disaster, the phone system can be overwhelmed.  The bandwidth and resources the phone system needs to make a voice call are huge compared with the bandwidth and resources needed for a simple SMS text message.  A 160-character text message, plus its envelope, should be under 2 kilobits for the whole message.  A GSM voice connection uses at least 6.5 kilobits per second, every second.</p><p>Also, there are a <a href="http://www.privateline.com/mt\_cellbasics/xi\_additional\_assistance/a\_qa\_cell\_tower\_capacity/" title="privateline.com">limited number of conversations</a> [privateline.com] possible at one time for each cell tower.  In terms of how many people can use a tower at a time, SMS messages are a huge win: an SMS message doesn't tie up a chunk of the tower for seconds.</p><p>At my job, we had a Red Cross disaster training session, and the person from the Red Cross told us to expect that cell phone voice service is very likely to not be available in a disaster, but text messages are likely to still work.  That was the first time I actually got interested in text messages.</p><p>I think, very seriously, that emergency services (police, fire department, etc.) should be set up to receive text messages, precisely to handle the mass-disaster scenario.</p><p>Also, in the USA, mobile phones are now required to send GPS location data when the user calls an emergency number (911).  I'd like to see a similar feature for texts: when you text to 911, the phone attaches GPS location data to the text message.</p><p>steveha</p></div>
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<tokenext>if they have access to facebook why not just call the police ? It 's perfectly understandable that you would ask such a question .
To find the answer you would have to do something incredibly difficult and unusual , such as RTFA [ blogspot.com ] .But I 'll help you out .
Here 's the relevant part of TFA : In the first few hours that followed the earthquake , mobile service was completely disrupted .
It was almost impossible to place a call , due to the combination of the damages on the cellular networks and the spike in phone calls .
However , on some networks , SMS service was still available .
People stuck under rubbles started texting to their friends and family ( in Haiti and abroad ) to tell them they were still alive and needed help .
In Haiti , on a population of 8 million , there were about 4 million mobile phone subscribers .
Those friends and family , not knowing what to do , started posting these SOS messages on their social networks , mainly on Facebook.In a disaster , the phone system can be overwhelmed .
The bandwidth and resources the phone system needs to make a voice call are huge compared with the bandwidth and resources needed for a simple SMS text message .
A 160-character text message , plus its envelope , should be under 2 kilobits for the whole message .
A GSM voice connection uses at least 6.5 kilobits per second , every second.Also , there are a limited number of conversations [ privateline.com ] possible at one time for each cell tower .
In terms of how many people can use a tower at a time , SMS messages are a huge win : an SMS message does n't tie up a chunk of the tower for seconds.At my job , we had a Red Cross disaster training session , and the person from the Red Cross told us to expect that cell phone voice service is very likely to not be available in a disaster , but text messages are likely to still work .
That was the first time I actually got interested in text messages.I think , very seriously , that emergency services ( police , fire department , etc .
) should be set up to receive text messages , precisely to handle the mass-disaster scenario.Also , in the USA , mobile phones are now required to send GPS location data when the user calls an emergency number ( 911 ) .
I 'd like to see a similar feature for texts : when you text to 911 , the phone attaches GPS location data to the text message.steveha</tokentext>
<sentencetext>if they have access to facebook why not just call the police?It's perfectly understandable that you would ask such a question.
To find the answer you would have to do something incredibly difficult and unusual, such as RTFA [blogspot.com].But I'll help you out.
Here's the relevant part of TFA:In the first few hours that followed the earthquake, mobile service was completely disrupted.
It was almost impossible to place a call, due to the combination of the damages on the cellular networks and the spike in phone calls.
However, on some networks, SMS service was still available.
People stuck under rubbles started texting to their friends and family (in Haiti and abroad) to tell them they were still alive and needed help.
In Haiti, on a population of 8 million, there were about 4 million mobile phone subscribers.
Those friends and family, not knowing what to do, started posting these SOS messages on their social networks, mainly on Facebook.In a disaster, the phone system can be overwhelmed.
The bandwidth and resources the phone system needs to make a voice call are huge compared with the bandwidth and resources needed for a simple SMS text message.
A 160-character text message, plus its envelope, should be under 2 kilobits for the whole message.
A GSM voice connection uses at least 6.5 kilobits per second, every second.Also, there are a limited number of conversations [privateline.com] possible at one time for each cell tower.
In terms of how many people can use a tower at a time, SMS messages are a huge win: an SMS message doesn't tie up a chunk of the tower for seconds.At my job, we had a Red Cross disaster training session, and the person from the Red Cross told us to expect that cell phone voice service is very likely to not be available in a disaster, but text messages are likely to still work.
That was the first time I actually got interested in text messages.I think, very seriously, that emergency services (police, fire department, etc.
) should be set up to receive text messages, precisely to handle the mass-disaster scenario.Also, in the USA, mobile phones are now required to send GPS location data when the user calls an emergency number (911).
I'd like to see a similar feature for texts: when you text to 911, the phone attaches GPS location data to the text message.steveha
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150404</id>
	<title>A more general solution</title>
	<author>atfrase</author>
	<datestamp>1266237840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is an amazing story, and everyone involved deserves all honor and appreciation for their life-saving efforts.</p><p>Nonetheless, it raises the question: how can we leverage technology to achieve this kind of effect without requiring a friend-of-a-friend with a direct line to the US State Department?</p><p>There were no doubt many other people trapped by the quake who didn't have such fortuitous Facebook connections, and many of them probably weren't found in time.  Is there a way to deploy some kind of SMS-based 911 infrastructure in situations like this, even on foreign cellular networks?  Could we even deploy our own mobile cellular base stations for this purpose, if the local cell network is too badly damaged?  Other ideas?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is an amazing story , and everyone involved deserves all honor and appreciation for their life-saving efforts.Nonetheless , it raises the question : how can we leverage technology to achieve this kind of effect without requiring a friend-of-a-friend with a direct line to the US State Department ? There were no doubt many other people trapped by the quake who did n't have such fortuitous Facebook connections , and many of them probably were n't found in time .
Is there a way to deploy some kind of SMS-based 911 infrastructure in situations like this , even on foreign cellular networks ?
Could we even deploy our own mobile cellular base stations for this purpose , if the local cell network is too badly damaged ?
Other ideas ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is an amazing story, and everyone involved deserves all honor and appreciation for their life-saving efforts.Nonetheless, it raises the question: how can we leverage technology to achieve this kind of effect without requiring a friend-of-a-friend with a direct line to the US State Department?There were no doubt many other people trapped by the quake who didn't have such fortuitous Facebook connections, and many of them probably weren't found in time.
Is there a way to deploy some kind of SMS-based 911 infrastructure in situations like this, even on foreign cellular networks?
Could we even deploy our own mobile cellular base stations for this purpose, if the local cell network is too badly damaged?
Other ideas?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150232</id>
	<title>Technology</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Technology is so fucking cool. I really love it when people do amazing things like this and prove how useful it all is.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Technology is so fucking cool .
I really love it when people do amazing things like this and prove how useful it all is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Technology is so fucking cool.
I really love it when people do amazing things like this and prove how useful it all is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150666</id>
	<title>Peer to Peer phone (already covered on Slashdot)</title>
	<author>F34nor</author>
	<datestamp>1266239700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.terranet.se/" title="terranet.se">http://www.terranet.se/</a> [terranet.se]</p><p>Why are towers a necessity? Oh they might not be. Imagine a world of wide-band fractal antenna peer to peer devices and access points powered by a negotiated free market where you decide $/bit you pay and what provider latency and bandwidth you need.</p><p>On a disaster related idea read "Rainbows End" by Vernor Vinge. When the shit hits the fan the military saturates the area with network access points dropped from the air to overwhelm enemy networks and provide infrastructure for their operations. Just rain solar, battery powered, peer to peer mesh AP's on a disaster.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.terranet.se/ [ terranet.se ] Why are towers a necessity ?
Oh they might not be .
Imagine a world of wide-band fractal antenna peer to peer devices and access points powered by a negotiated free market where you decide $ /bit you pay and what provider latency and bandwidth you need.On a disaster related idea read " Rainbows End " by Vernor Vinge .
When the shit hits the fan the military saturates the area with network access points dropped from the air to overwhelm enemy networks and provide infrastructure for their operations .
Just rain solar , battery powered , peer to peer mesh AP 's on a disaster .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.terranet.se/ [terranet.se]Why are towers a necessity?
Oh they might not be.
Imagine a world of wide-band fractal antenna peer to peer devices and access points powered by a negotiated free market where you decide $/bit you pay and what provider latency and bandwidth you need.On a disaster related idea read "Rainbows End" by Vernor Vinge.
When the shit hits the fan the military saturates the area with network access points dropped from the air to overwhelm enemy networks and provide infrastructure for their operations.
Just rain solar, battery powered, peer to peer mesh AP's on a disaster.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153046</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266352680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>this brings a bad taste of "US again saves the world"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>this brings a bad taste of " US again saves the world "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>this brings a bad taste of "US again saves the world"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151638</id>
	<title>The more general solution exists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266249060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was directly involved with the relief efforts, coordinating with USAID, US State Department, UN Logistics Cluster, Office of the Special Envoy, and others.  The tool we did all use was an open source project called Ushahidi (haiti.ushahidi.org).  Official agencies and average people with cell phones alike were able to submit situation reports, relief requests, and donations via SMS to their crisis-mapping/crowdsourcing tool.  Each report was geo-tagged and mapped.  The US Marines stationed in the USS Bataan anchored off Port-au-Prince told us they literally saw reports pop up from people who were still trapped in rubble but had working cell phones, and they were able to find and save them because of Ushahidi.</p><p>The folks at the Ushahidi project went one better than that, though, because they got a hold of the guy who runs Haiti's cell phone company, Digicel, and he worked with them to push out official alerts (like where to get medical care, food, water, etc) to all Digicel's subscribers in the affected area.</p><p>I've never seen anything like it.  Watching reports from people trapped in rubble pop up on the map and replies from first responders quickly follow up sent shivers up my spine.  It's the first time I've ever witnessed open source software saving lives in real time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was directly involved with the relief efforts , coordinating with USAID , US State Department , UN Logistics Cluster , Office of the Special Envoy , and others .
The tool we did all use was an open source project called Ushahidi ( haiti.ushahidi.org ) .
Official agencies and average people with cell phones alike were able to submit situation reports , relief requests , and donations via SMS to their crisis-mapping/crowdsourcing tool .
Each report was geo-tagged and mapped .
The US Marines stationed in the USS Bataan anchored off Port-au-Prince told us they literally saw reports pop up from people who were still trapped in rubble but had working cell phones , and they were able to find and save them because of Ushahidi.The folks at the Ushahidi project went one better than that , though , because they got a hold of the guy who runs Haiti 's cell phone company , Digicel , and he worked with them to push out official alerts ( like where to get medical care , food , water , etc ) to all Digicel 's subscribers in the affected area.I 've never seen anything like it .
Watching reports from people trapped in rubble pop up on the map and replies from first responders quickly follow up sent shivers up my spine .
It 's the first time I 've ever witnessed open source software saving lives in real time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was directly involved with the relief efforts, coordinating with USAID, US State Department, UN Logistics Cluster, Office of the Special Envoy, and others.
The tool we did all use was an open source project called Ushahidi (haiti.ushahidi.org).
Official agencies and average people with cell phones alike were able to submit situation reports, relief requests, and donations via SMS to their crisis-mapping/crowdsourcing tool.
Each report was geo-tagged and mapped.
The US Marines stationed in the USS Bataan anchored off Port-au-Prince told us they literally saw reports pop up from people who were still trapped in rubble but had working cell phones, and they were able to find and save them because of Ushahidi.The folks at the Ushahidi project went one better than that, though, because they got a hold of the guy who runs Haiti's cell phone company, Digicel, and he worked with them to push out official alerts (like where to get medical care, food, water, etc) to all Digicel's subscribers in the affected area.I've never seen anything like it.
Watching reports from people trapped in rubble pop up on the map and replies from first responders quickly follow up sent shivers up my spine.
It's the first time I've ever witnessed open source software saving lives in real time.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153902</id>
	<title>Re:Not a joke</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266323340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Also, in the USA, mobile phones are now required to send GPS location data when the user calls an emergency number (911).  I'd like to see a similar feature for texts: when you text to 911, the phone attaches GPS location data to the text message.</p></div><p>Minor nitpick: It's not GPS location data, it's cell tower data. Not all phones have GPS units attached to them, but all cell phones require at least a connection to a cell tower.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Also , in the USA , mobile phones are now required to send GPS location data when the user calls an emergency number ( 911 ) .
I 'd like to see a similar feature for texts : when you text to 911 , the phone attaches GPS location data to the text message.Minor nitpick : It 's not GPS location data , it 's cell tower data .
Not all phones have GPS units attached to them , but all cell phones require at least a connection to a cell tower .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Also, in the USA, mobile phones are now required to send GPS location data when the user calls an emergency number (911).
I'd like to see a similar feature for texts: when you text to 911, the phone attaches GPS location data to the text message.Minor nitpick: It's not GPS location data, it's cell tower data.
Not all phones have GPS units attached to them, but all cell phones require at least a connection to a cell tower.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150800</id>
	<title>You missed the unique part</title>
	<author>Mr2001</author>
	<datestamp>1266240660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Great, but just about any smartphone can do this, even most of the closed smartphone platforms, nothing special.</p></div><p>The part you quoted, yes, but not the part that kicked the whole thing off: he noticed someone's Facebook status update on his home screen widget. If he had to open an app to get Facebook updates, he wouldn't have seen it, because he had better things to do than browse Facebook.</p><p>I don't know about all the other smartphone platforms, but I'm pretty sure this is something the iPhone can't do. It doesn't have widgets; its home screen only shows app icons. You can get push notifications for certain events, but friends' status updates aren't among them, and you likely wouldn't want to get a message for every status update anyway.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Great , but just about any smartphone can do this , even most of the closed smartphone platforms , nothing special.The part you quoted , yes , but not the part that kicked the whole thing off : he noticed someone 's Facebook status update on his home screen widget .
If he had to open an app to get Facebook updates , he would n't have seen it , because he had better things to do than browse Facebook.I do n't know about all the other smartphone platforms , but I 'm pretty sure this is something the iPhone ca n't do .
It does n't have widgets ; its home screen only shows app icons .
You can get push notifications for certain events , but friends ' status updates are n't among them , and you likely would n't want to get a message for every status update anyway .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great, but just about any smartphone can do this, even most of the closed smartphone platforms, nothing special.The part you quoted, yes, but not the part that kicked the whole thing off: he noticed someone's Facebook status update on his home screen widget.
If he had to open an app to get Facebook updates, he wouldn't have seen it, because he had better things to do than browse Facebook.I don't know about all the other smartphone platforms, but I'm pretty sure this is something the iPhone can't do.
It doesn't have widgets; its home screen only shows app icons.
You can get push notifications for certain events, but friends' status updates aren't among them, and you likely wouldn't want to get a message for every status update anyway.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153686</id>
	<title>Re:You missed the unique part</title>
	<author>kapoios</author>
	<datestamp>1266319500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The part you quoted, yes, but not the part that kicked the whole thing off: he noticed someone's Facebook status update on his home screen widget. If he had to open an app to get Facebook updates, he wouldn't have seen it, because he had better things to do than browse Facebook.</p></div><p>Man, he has the Facebook app in his home screen... He sure hasn't better things to do.</p><p>If he had, he would had put his corporate email, stocks, news, whatelse.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>The part you quoted , yes , but not the part that kicked the whole thing off : he noticed someone 's Facebook status update on his home screen widget .
If he had to open an app to get Facebook updates , he would n't have seen it , because he had better things to do than browse Facebook.Man , he has the Facebook app in his home screen... He sure has n't better things to do.If he had , he would had put his corporate email , stocks , news , whatelse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The part you quoted, yes, but not the part that kicked the whole thing off: he noticed someone's Facebook status update on his home screen widget.
If he had to open an app to get Facebook updates, he wouldn't have seen it, because he had better things to do than browse Facebook.Man, he has the Facebook app in his home screen... He sure hasn't better things to do.If he had, he would had put his corporate email, stocks, news, whatelse.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151678</id>
	<title>Sahana FOSS deployed for Haiti</title>
	<author>rediguana</author>
	<datestamp>1266249600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>At the risk of burning some Karma, and whoring our own FOSS disaster project...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>If anyone is interested in being involved in a FOSS project for disasters, the Sahana Software Foundation is very interested in getting more developers involved in writing software to be used in disaster and emergency management. Sahana was created in Sri Lanka in early 2005 following the tsunami in late 2004. Since then Sahana has been deployed to a number of events in various countries (China, Peru, Philippines, Pakistan, India etc).</p><p>Coming back to Haiti, we have deployed our new Python version of Sahana, and it has been very well received, including by the likes of SOUTHCOM and the World Food Programme. In addition, we have been pushing a lot of standards for emergency interoperability, and due to some of our early work implementing the Emergency Data eXchange Language (EDXL) - Hospital AVailability Extension (HAVE), we have a lot of interest in not only FOSS, but also open standards.</p><p>We are looking for assistance in further developing Sahana, and these are some of the key skills we are looking for to help with our existing deployment in Haiti (note you don't need them all to be able to work on Sahana):</p><p># Python - all the core coding is undertaken in Python<br># web2py - this is the application framework that we use in Python for SahanaPy<br># OpenLayers - this is the client javascript library we use for mapping in the browser<br># jQuery - additional view tweaks are done using this JavaScript library<br># XSLT/XPath - a lot of import/export functionality is created using XSLT templates written using XPath</p><p>For more info on our Haiti response, and if you want to help out, check out this wiki page: <a href="http://trac.sahanapy.org/wiki/Haiti" title="sahanapy.org">http://trac.sahanapy.org/wiki/Haiti</a> [sahanapy.org]<br>Alternatively, jump into #sahana on freenode. If you want to contact me directly, email me - gt at kestrel dot co dot nz</p><p>If you read this far, thanks for the attention<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>Cheers Gavin<br>Board Member, Sahana Software Foundation</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>At the risk of burning some Karma , and whoring our own FOSS disaster project... ; ) If anyone is interested in being involved in a FOSS project for disasters , the Sahana Software Foundation is very interested in getting more developers involved in writing software to be used in disaster and emergency management .
Sahana was created in Sri Lanka in early 2005 following the tsunami in late 2004 .
Since then Sahana has been deployed to a number of events in various countries ( China , Peru , Philippines , Pakistan , India etc ) .Coming back to Haiti , we have deployed our new Python version of Sahana , and it has been very well received , including by the likes of SOUTHCOM and the World Food Programme .
In addition , we have been pushing a lot of standards for emergency interoperability , and due to some of our early work implementing the Emergency Data eXchange Language ( EDXL ) - Hospital AVailability Extension ( HAVE ) , we have a lot of interest in not only FOSS , but also open standards.We are looking for assistance in further developing Sahana , and these are some of the key skills we are looking for to help with our existing deployment in Haiti ( note you do n't need them all to be able to work on Sahana ) : # Python - all the core coding is undertaken in Python # web2py - this is the application framework that we use in Python for SahanaPy # OpenLayers - this is the client javascript library we use for mapping in the browser # jQuery - additional view tweaks are done using this JavaScript library # XSLT/XPath - a lot of import/export functionality is created using XSLT templates written using XPathFor more info on our Haiti response , and if you want to help out , check out this wiki page : http : //trac.sahanapy.org/wiki/Haiti [ sahanapy.org ] Alternatively , jump into # sahana on freenode .
If you want to contact me directly , email me - gt at kestrel dot co dot nzIf you read this far , thanks for the attention : ) Cheers GavinBoard Member , Sahana Software Foundation</tokentext>
<sentencetext>At the risk of burning some Karma, and whoring our own FOSS disaster project... ;)If anyone is interested in being involved in a FOSS project for disasters, the Sahana Software Foundation is very interested in getting more developers involved in writing software to be used in disaster and emergency management.
Sahana was created in Sri Lanka in early 2005 following the tsunami in late 2004.
Since then Sahana has been deployed to a number of events in various countries (China, Peru, Philippines, Pakistan, India etc).Coming back to Haiti, we have deployed our new Python version of Sahana, and it has been very well received, including by the likes of SOUTHCOM and the World Food Programme.
In addition, we have been pushing a lot of standards for emergency interoperability, and due to some of our early work implementing the Emergency Data eXchange Language (EDXL) - Hospital AVailability Extension (HAVE), we have a lot of interest in not only FOSS, but also open standards.We are looking for assistance in further developing Sahana, and these are some of the key skills we are looking for to help with our existing deployment in Haiti (note you don't need them all to be able to work on Sahana):# Python - all the core coding is undertaken in Python# web2py - this is the application framework that we use in Python for SahanaPy# OpenLayers - this is the client javascript library we use for mapping in the browser# jQuery - additional view tweaks are done using this JavaScript library# XSLT/XPath - a lot of import/export functionality is created using XSLT templates written using XPathFor more info on our Haiti response, and if you want to help out, check out this wiki page: http://trac.sahanapy.org/wiki/Haiti [sahanapy.org]Alternatively, jump into #sahana on freenode.
If you want to contact me directly, email me - gt at kestrel dot co dot nzIf you read this far, thanks for the attention :)Cheers GavinBoard Member, Sahana Software Foundation</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31156742</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266343980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because she was too stupid to call 911 and went on facebook instead!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because she was too stupid to call 911 and went on facebook instead !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because she was too stupid to call 911 and went on facebook instead!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150810</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150802</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266240720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Facebook also gives relatively hopeless people something to do and something to look forward to...</p><p>(This post does not assume the majority of facebook users.  I have to disclaim this because I know someone would assume I am implying that.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Facebook also gives relatively hopeless people something to do and something to look forward to... ( This post does not assume the majority of facebook users .
I have to disclaim this because I know someone would assume I am implying that .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Facebook also gives relatively hopeless people something to do and something to look forward to...(This post does not assume the majority of facebook users.
I have to disclaim this because I know someone would assume I am implying that.
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150208</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151298</id>
	<title>Re:FanBoid?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266245700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Great, but just about any smartphone can do this, even most of the closed smartphone platforms, nothing special. Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?</p></div></blockquote><p>Of course this story could easily have been about someone who used their iPhone to do the same thing.</p><p>However, the iPhone users lost their proprietary chargers and it was going to take over a week to get a new one.</p><p>The Android user just had to plug in any old mini-USB cable.</p><p>The point being, maybe this phone worked not because it was special, but because it was <i>not special</i>.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Great , but just about any smartphone can do this , even most of the closed smartphone platforms , nothing special .
Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys ? Of course this story could easily have been about someone who used their iPhone to do the same thing.However , the iPhone users lost their proprietary chargers and it was going to take over a week to get a new one.The Android user just had to plug in any old mini-USB cable.The point being , maybe this phone worked not because it was special , but because it was not special .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Great, but just about any smartphone can do this, even most of the closed smartphone platforms, nothing special.
Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?Of course this story could easily have been about someone who used their iPhone to do the same thing.However, the iPhone users lost their proprietary chargers and it was going to take over a week to get a new one.The Android user just had to plug in any old mini-USB cable.The point being, maybe this phone worked not because it was special, but because it was not special.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150202</id>
	<title>-1, troll</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>fuck fuck fuck</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>fuck fuck fuck</tokentext>
<sentencetext>fuck fuck fuck</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150482</id>
	<title>Pathetic use of technology</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266238260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I read articles like this and shrug...so in a huge disaster you have to have cell service AND an Internet connection with access to an international server to coordinate and if you are somehow magically able to obtain such connectivity your prize is use twitter and facebook... WTF is wrong with this picture?</p><p>How hard would it be to to have very low bandwidth (text only) low frequency but high range radios in cell phones that would allow them to message each other directly over several miles bypassing the cell infustructure?  Now that would be incredibly useful but it will never see the light of day for obvious reasons.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I read articles like this and shrug...so in a huge disaster you have to have cell service AND an Internet connection with access to an international server to coordinate and if you are somehow magically able to obtain such connectivity your prize is use twitter and facebook... WTF is wrong with this picture ? How hard would it be to to have very low bandwidth ( text only ) low frequency but high range radios in cell phones that would allow them to message each other directly over several miles bypassing the cell infustructure ?
Now that would be incredibly useful but it will never see the light of day for obvious reasons .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I read articles like this and shrug...so in a huge disaster you have to have cell service AND an Internet connection with access to an international server to coordinate and if you are somehow magically able to obtain such connectivity your prize is use twitter and facebook... WTF is wrong with this picture?How hard would it be to to have very low bandwidth (text only) low frequency but high range radios in cell phones that would allow them to message each other directly over several miles bypassing the cell infustructure?
Now that would be incredibly useful but it will never see the light of day for obvious reasons.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150822</id>
	<title>Screw you pessimists</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266240900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is out and outright fucking amazing.</p><p>Consider, writing, on a piece of paper 'SOS' - despatching it to a messenger boy (possibly under rubble next to you), who takes it to the nearest train station that then relays it over morse code down the telegraph line, to be received in Cuba, relayed to Florida, then via numerous telegraph operators to Washington to get lost in tens (1x) of messages...</p><p>Brand allegiances and political ideology aside - you gotta sometimes take you thumb out of your bum in awe of this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is out and outright fucking amazing.Consider , writing , on a piece of paper 'SOS ' - despatching it to a messenger boy ( possibly under rubble next to you ) , who takes it to the nearest train station that then relays it over morse code down the telegraph line , to be received in Cuba , relayed to Florida , then via numerous telegraph operators to Washington to get lost in tens ( 1x ) of messages...Brand allegiances and political ideology aside - you got ta sometimes take you thumb out of your bum in awe of this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is out and outright fucking amazing.Consider, writing, on a piece of paper 'SOS' - despatching it to a messenger boy (possibly under rubble next to you), who takes it to the nearest train station that then relays it over morse code down the telegraph line, to be received in Cuba, relayed to Florida, then via numerous telegraph operators to Washington to get lost in tens (1x) of messages...Brand allegiances and political ideology aside - you gotta sometimes take you thumb out of your bum in awe of this.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153900</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266323280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>To call a method useful would imply that it functioned more effectively than the traditional alternative. In that particular case, they used Facebook from their mobile phone and a friend eventually called the emergency services. Wouldn't it have been far more effective for them to have called the emergency services themselves?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>To call a method useful would imply that it functioned more effectively than the traditional alternative .
In that particular case , they used Facebook from their mobile phone and a friend eventually called the emergency services .
Would n't it have been far more effective for them to have called the emergency services themselves ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>To call a method useful would imply that it functioned more effectively than the traditional alternative.
In that particular case, they used Facebook from their mobile phone and a friend eventually called the emergency services.
Wouldn't it have been far more effective for them to have called the emergency services themselves?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150444</id>
	<title>There is a blog organizing to save the Haitian</title>
	<author>Presto Vivace</author>
	<datestamp>1266238080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Internet. <a href="http://wampum.wabanaki.net/vault/2010/02/005491.html" title="wabanaki.net">Project Title: Adopt an Haitian Internet technician or facility</a> [wabanaki.net]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Internet .
Project Title : Adopt an Haitian Internet technician or facility [ wabanaki.net ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Internet.
Project Title: Adopt an Haitian Internet technician or facility [wabanaki.net]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150636</id>
	<title>Tech disaster relieft</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266239400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>There's a lot of great disaster relief open-source stuff going on in Haiti.  Check out Sahana for Haiti.  Or the work done on the open street maps project for Port-au-Prince.  The map was filled in with routing, street, building state, health facility etc. by some good developers who extracted satellite &amp; other data in a few days; to the point where the marines could use it move trucks around the rubble.  Like the 2008 Year of Edits for OSM but for one city in days.</htmltext>
<tokenext>There 's a lot of great disaster relief open-source stuff going on in Haiti .
Check out Sahana for Haiti .
Or the work done on the open street maps project for Port-au-Prince .
The map was filled in with routing , street , building state , health facility etc .
by some good developers who extracted satellite &amp; other data in a few days ; to the point where the marines could use it move trucks around the rubble .
Like the 2008 Year of Edits for OSM but for one city in days .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There's a lot of great disaster relief open-source stuff going on in Haiti.
Check out Sahana for Haiti.
Or the work done on the open street maps project for Port-au-Prince.
The map was filled in with routing, street, building state, health facility etc.
by some good developers who extracted satellite &amp; other data in a few days; to the point where the marines could use it move trucks around the rubble.
Like the 2008 Year of Edits for OSM but for one city in days.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150190</id>
	<title>Don't you just</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Haiti it when that happens?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Haiti it when that happens ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Haiti it when that happens?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150208</id>
	<title>Internet saves</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>First time,Facebook was proved useful...Hope more can get help like that.What a disaster really...</htmltext>
<tokenext>First time,Facebook was proved useful...Hope more can get help like that.What a disaster really.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First time,Facebook was proved useful...Hope more can get help like that.What a disaster really...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150262</id>
	<title>Communications is a human right.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a terrible karma for being so right wing but when you have before proof that making available communications to people can save lives, then, it goes to show that communications is a fundamental human right and that there needs to be communications for everyone, everywhere, on the planet earth.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a terrible karma for being so right wing but when you have before proof that making available communications to people can save lives , then , it goes to show that communications is a fundamental human right and that there needs to be communications for everyone , everywhere , on the planet earth .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a terrible karma for being so right wing but when you have before proof that making available communications to people can save lives, then, it goes to show that communications is a fundamental human right and that there needs to be communications for everyone, everywhere, on the planet earth.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150884</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>Arthur Grumbine</author>
	<datestamp>1266241440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What a disaster really...</p></div><p>I don't think that right now is the time to criticize Facebook...oh, wait...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What a disaster really...I do n't think that right now is the time to criticize Facebook...oh , wait.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What a disaster really...I don't think that right now is the time to criticize Facebook...oh, wait...
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31154412</id>
	<title>Re:FanBoid?</title>
	<author>tehcyder</author>
	<datestamp>1266330960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
I don't think that's logically possible.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys ?
I do n't think that 's logically possible .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?
I don't think that's logically possible.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150544</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150410</id>
	<title>Re:Communications is a human right.</title>
	<author>obarthelemy</author>
	<datestamp>1266237840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>also, note that there's a bunch of things that would save more lives, such as medicine (preventive and curative) , education, clean water, food, peace...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>also , note that there 's a bunch of things that would save more lives , such as medicine ( preventive and curative ) , education , clean water , food , peace.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>also, note that there's a bunch of things that would save more lives, such as medicine (preventive and curative) , education, clean water, food, peace...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150262</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31152430</id>
	<title>Re:Feeding off Web 2.0 hype</title>
	<author>MikeBabcock</author>
	<datestamp>1266258360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Feel free to look up the amount of data sent to update Facebook statuses via the Facebook API on an Android smart phone.  Its not much.  Twitter would've worked too.  Texting of course would not, since it's not broadcast.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Feel free to look up the amount of data sent to update Facebook statuses via the Facebook API on an Android smart phone .
Its not much .
Twitter would 've worked too .
Texting of course would not , since it 's not broadcast .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Feel free to look up the amount of data sent to update Facebook statuses via the Facebook API on an Android smart phone.
Its not much.
Twitter would've worked too.
Texting of course would not, since it's not broadcast.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151006</id>
	<title>Android's fucking own...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266242640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>nm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>nm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>nm</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150810</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>Jamonek</author>
	<datestamp>1266240780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>First time,Facebook was proved useful...Hope more can get help like that.What a disaster really...</p></div><p>I wouldn't say the first time it has been proven useful. There was also an article of facebook being used to help save a little girl? from a sewer over in Austrailia. Give me some time and I can find it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>First time,Facebook was proved useful...Hope more can get help like that.What a disaster really...I would n't say the first time it has been proven useful .
There was also an article of facebook being used to help save a little girl ?
from a sewer over in Austrailia .
Give me some time and I can find it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First time,Facebook was proved useful...Hope more can get help like that.What a disaster really...I wouldn't say the first time it has been proven useful.
There was also an article of facebook being used to help save a little girl?
from a sewer over in Austrailia.
Give me some time and I can find it.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153844</id>
	<title>Re:The more general solution exists</title>
	<author>Cornwallis</author>
	<datestamp>1266322380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The solution is called ham radio.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The solution is called ham radio .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The solution is called ham radio.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150746</id>
	<title>I'm not sure what the Android spin is...</title>
	<author>argent</author>
	<datestamp>1266240300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What's the Android spin, that he happened to notice the message because of the app running on his home screen?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's the Android spin , that he happened to notice the message because of the app running on his home screen ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's the Android spin, that he happened to notice the message because of the app running on his home screen?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151432</id>
	<title>No tech to see here...move along..</title>
	<author>Savior\_on\_a\_Stick</author>
	<datestamp>1266247140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the guy in Haiti had access to update his Fbook status, and was able to send and receive sms - why didn't he just contact the State Department directly?</p><p>This story isn't about technology, it's about personal access.</p><p>Guy in Haiti didn't have it - so he sends the equivalent of a smoke signal, and is lucky enough that someone notices it and does have access.</p><p>This all sounds really contrived, and I'm not impressed.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the guy in Haiti had access to update his Fbook status , and was able to send and receive sms - why did n't he just contact the State Department directly ? This story is n't about technology , it 's about personal access.Guy in Haiti did n't have it - so he sends the equivalent of a smoke signal , and is lucky enough that someone notices it and does have access.This all sounds really contrived , and I 'm not impressed .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the guy in Haiti had access to update his Fbook status, and was able to send and receive sms - why didn't he just contact the State Department directly?This story isn't about technology, it's about personal access.Guy in Haiti didn't have it - so he sends the equivalent of a smoke signal, and is lucky enough that someone notices it and does have access.This all sounds really contrived, and I'm not impressed.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150882</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not sure what the Android spin is...</title>
	<author>assemblyronin</author>
	<datestamp>1266241440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Exactly.</p><p>

FTA (emphasis mine):</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Well, when you are in such a situation, <i>you don&rsquo;t really think about going to Facebook</i>, but it happens that I have a Facebook <i>widget</i> on my Android home screen that regularly displays status updates from my friends.</p></div><p>He was saying that due to the ability for Android phones to customize their L&amp;F unlike other popular phones, he noticed his friend's update much sooner due to the widget automatically updating on his phones homepage.</p><p>The widget updating itself on the homepage gave him immediate data and insight since Facebook wasn't an obvious choice to look for SOS from survivors.  Other smart phones, people would have had to check their Facebook newsfeed which they only do every so often... (unless they're a 13 year old.</p><p>This lead him to a further realization that maybe other survivors were using Facebook to do a canvasing approach to letting people know they're still alive and need help because they didn't know what else to do in the situation.</p><p>

FTA:</p><p><div class="quote"><p>So, I started scouring Facebook to retrieve all those SOS messages, telling people on mailing lists and on Facebook to forward all SOS messages to me.</p></div></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Exactly .
FTA ( emphasis mine ) : Well , when you are in such a situation , you don    t really think about going to Facebook , but it happens that I have a Facebook widget on my Android home screen that regularly displays status updates from my friends.He was saying that due to the ability for Android phones to customize their L&amp;F unlike other popular phones , he noticed his friend 's update much sooner due to the widget automatically updating on his phones homepage.The widget updating itself on the homepage gave him immediate data and insight since Facebook was n't an obvious choice to look for SOS from survivors .
Other smart phones , people would have had to check their Facebook newsfeed which they only do every so often... ( unless they 're a 13 year old.This lead him to a further realization that maybe other survivors were using Facebook to do a canvasing approach to letting people know they 're still alive and need help because they did n't know what else to do in the situation .
FTA : So , I started scouring Facebook to retrieve all those SOS messages , telling people on mailing lists and on Facebook to forward all SOS messages to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Exactly.
FTA (emphasis mine):Well, when you are in such a situation, you don’t really think about going to Facebook, but it happens that I have a Facebook widget on my Android home screen that regularly displays status updates from my friends.He was saying that due to the ability for Android phones to customize their L&amp;F unlike other popular phones, he noticed his friend's update much sooner due to the widget automatically updating on his phones homepage.The widget updating itself on the homepage gave him immediate data and insight since Facebook wasn't an obvious choice to look for SOS from survivors.
Other smart phones, people would have had to check their Facebook newsfeed which they only do every so often... (unless they're a 13 year old.This lead him to a further realization that maybe other survivors were using Facebook to do a canvasing approach to letting people know they're still alive and need help because they didn't know what else to do in the situation.
FTA:So, I started scouring Facebook to retrieve all those SOS messages, telling people on mailing lists and on Facebook to forward all SOS messages to me.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150544</id>
	<title>FanBoid?</title>
	<author>L3370</author>
	<datestamp>1266238800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>--"Via email and text messaging, I was able to relay this information from Port-au-Prince to Steven in Oregon, who relayed it to the State Department in Washington DC, and it was quickly forwarded to the US military at the Port-au-Prince airport and dispatched to the search-and-rescue (SAR) teams being assembled. "<br> <br>
Great, but just about any smartphone can do this, even most of the closed smartphone platforms, nothing special. Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?<br> <br>

FanBoids.</htmltext>
<tokenext>-- " Via email and text messaging , I was able to relay this information from Port-au-Prince to Steven in Oregon , who relayed it to the State Department in Washington DC , and it was quickly forwarded to the US military at the Port-au-Prince airport and dispatched to the search-and-rescue ( SAR ) teams being assembled .
" Great , but just about any smartphone can do this , even most of the closed smartphone platforms , nothing special .
Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys ?
FanBoids .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>--"Via email and text messaging, I was able to relay this information from Port-au-Prince to Steven in Oregon, who relayed it to the State Department in Washington DC, and it was quickly forwarded to the US military at the Port-au-Prince airport and dispatched to the search-and-rescue (SAR) teams being assembled.
" 
Great, but just about any smartphone can do this, even most of the closed smartphone platforms, nothing special.
Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?
FanBoids.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151080</id>
	<title>Re:FanBoid?</title>
	<author>Concerned Onlooker</author>
	<datestamp>1266243480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?"</p><p>It might just be you.  I work with lots of people that have both iPhones and other smart phones.  No one is "preachy."  I think the reason that people think that Mac fans are preachy is simply because people like to repeat that Mac fans are preachy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys ?
" It might just be you .
I work with lots of people that have both iPhones and other smart phones .
No one is " preachy .
" I think the reason that people think that Mac fans are preachy is simply because people like to repeat that Mac fans are preachy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Is it just me that thinks Android fans are becoming as preachy as the apple fanboys?
"It might just be you.
I work with lots of people that have both iPhones and other smart phones.
No one is "preachy.
"  I think the reason that people think that Mac fans are preachy is simply because people like to repeat that Mac fans are preachy.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31157972</id>
	<title>Re:I'm not sure what the Android spin is...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266348360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The android spin is that Apple App for doing this is still pending approval.  Apple didn't think "What do our customers want during earthquakes, and how might that impact our AT&amp;T contract?" so you can't have it until they figure out how to resolve all the conflicting interests.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The android spin is that Apple App for doing this is still pending approval .
Apple did n't think " What do our customers want during earthquakes , and how might that impact our AT&amp;T contract ?
" so you ca n't have it until they figure out how to resolve all the conflicting interests .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The android spin is that Apple App for doing this is still pending approval.
Apple didn't think "What do our customers want during earthquakes, and how might that impact our AT&amp;T contract?
" so you can't have it until they figure out how to resolve all the conflicting interests.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31154966</id>
	<title>Re:Not a joke</title>
	<author>brainiac ghost1991</author>
	<datestamp>1266334920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>In the UK, they now accept SMSs to the emergency services, it's mainly marketed at people with disabilities and you have to register your phone <a href="http://www.emergencysms.org.uk/" title="emergencysms.org.uk" rel="nofollow">here</a> [emergencysms.org.uk], I have my phone registered, but luckily haven't had to use it yet!</htmltext>
<tokenext>In the UK , they now accept SMSs to the emergency services , it 's mainly marketed at people with disabilities and you have to register your phone here [ emergencysms.org.uk ] , I have my phone registered , but luckily have n't had to use it yet !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In the UK, they now accept SMSs to the emergency services, it's mainly marketed at people with disabilities and you have to register your phone here [emergencysms.org.uk], I have my phone registered, but luckily haven't had to use it yet!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153734</id>
	<title>Re:A more general solution</title>
	<author>Tetard</author>
	<datestamp>1266320340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As pointed out elsewhere, Android just happened to be what the author had in his pocket at the time.  Of course, a lot of factors made it possible.  What's very inspiring about this is the amount of work that was done, without any prompting or formal coordination from any "official authorities".  The people on the ground, together with their friends and colleagues from around the world (Google, http://www.nsrc.org/, http://www.afnic.fr/, http://www.pch.net/, US State Department, etc...) made it happen.  To illustrate this, check out how continuity of the<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.HT ccTLD was ensured while the people running it on a daily basis in Port au Prince were unreachable:</p><p>http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=1&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.bortzmeyer.org\%2Fdns-haiti.html&amp;sl=fr&amp;tl=en</p><p>
&nbsp; No prior agreement had been made for "disaster recovery" but even so, the right decisions were taken.  Of course things would have been much smoother if there had been some sort of contingency planning, but taken into account the circumstances, this was pretty amazing.</p><p>Phil</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As pointed out elsewhere , Android just happened to be what the author had in his pocket at the time .
Of course , a lot of factors made it possible .
What 's very inspiring about this is the amount of work that was done , without any prompting or formal coordination from any " official authorities " .
The people on the ground , together with their friends and colleagues from around the world ( Google , http : //www.nsrc.org/ , http : //www.afnic.fr/ , http : //www.pch.net/ , US State Department , etc... ) made it happen .
To illustrate this , check out how continuity of the .HT ccTLD was ensured while the people running it on a daily basis in Port au Prince were unreachable : http : //translate.google.com/translate ? js = y&amp;prev = \ _t&amp;hl = en&amp;ie = UTF-8&amp;layout = 1&amp;eotf = 1&amp;u = http \ % 3A \ % 2F \ % 2Fwww.bortzmeyer.org \ % 2Fdns-haiti.html&amp;sl = fr&amp;tl = en   No prior agreement had been made for " disaster recovery " but even so , the right decisions were taken .
Of course things would have been much smoother if there had been some sort of contingency planning , but taken into account the circumstances , this was pretty amazing.Phil</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As pointed out elsewhere, Android just happened to be what the author had in his pocket at the time.
Of course, a lot of factors made it possible.
What's very inspiring about this is the amount of work that was done, without any prompting or formal coordination from any "official authorities".
The people on the ground, together with their friends and colleagues from around the world (Google, http://www.nsrc.org/, http://www.afnic.fr/, http://www.pch.net/, US State Department, etc...) made it happen.
To illustrate this, check out how continuity of the .HT ccTLD was ensured while the people running it on a daily basis in Port au Prince were unreachable:http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&amp;prev=\_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=1&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http\%3A\%2F\%2Fwww.bortzmeyer.org\%2Fdns-haiti.html&amp;sl=fr&amp;tl=en
  No prior agreement had been made for "disaster recovery" but even so, the right decisions were taken.
Of course things would have been much smoother if there had been some sort of contingency planning, but taken into account the circumstances, this was pretty amazing.Phil</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150236</id>
	<title>Please, not this SHIT again</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This is the now obligatory web 2.0 platform saves the day story. The last one was twitter I believe.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This is the now obligatory web 2.0 platform saves the day story .
The last one was twitter I believe .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is the now obligatory web 2.0 platform saves the day story.
The last one was twitter I believe.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31152978</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>zubinwadia</author>
	<datestamp>1266351960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Social networks will continue to be useful. It is a critical component of our CiviGuard platform - and we'll be bringing it to iPhone, Android, Win Phone 7 and BlackBerry in the next 6 months.

Check out: <a href="http://www.civiguard.com/" title="civiguard.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.civiguard.com/</a> [civiguard.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Social networks will continue to be useful .
It is a critical component of our CiviGuard platform - and we 'll be bringing it to iPhone , Android , Win Phone 7 and BlackBerry in the next 6 months .
Check out : http : //www.civiguard.com/ [ civiguard.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Social networks will continue to be useful.
It is a critical component of our CiviGuard platform - and we'll be bringing it to iPhone, Android, Win Phone 7 and BlackBerry in the next 6 months.
Check out: http://www.civiguard.com/ [civiguard.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153256</id>
	<title>Ideology is truly dead...</title>
	<author>Ostracus</author>
	<datestamp>1266312000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We don't need to come out of the woodwork to acknowledge that in this given situation the twins of cheap transceivers and relatively cheap base antennas with back-haul the same, worked out. However if circumstances had been different (and they could) would you be proclaiming the demise of cellular? They both have their strong and weak points and neither was meant to supplant the other except for those betting on a particular horse.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We do n't need to come out of the woodwork to acknowledge that in this given situation the twins of cheap transceivers and relatively cheap base antennas with back-haul the same , worked out .
However if circumstances had been different ( and they could ) would you be proclaiming the demise of cellular ?
They both have their strong and weak points and neither was meant to supplant the other except for those betting on a particular horse .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We don't need to come out of the woodwork to acknowledge that in this given situation the twins of cheap transceivers and relatively cheap base antennas with back-haul the same, worked out.
However if circumstances had been different (and they could) would you be proclaiming the demise of cellular?
They both have their strong and weak points and neither was meant to supplant the other except for those betting on a particular horse.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151658</id>
	<title>Re:Feeding off Web 2.0 hype</title>
	<author>TapeCutter</author>
	<datestamp>1266249360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would never work, just before the proffesor sends the SOS message Gilligan will trip over the delicate instrument and ruin everything</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would never work , just before the proffesor sends the SOS message Gilligan will trip over the delicate instrument and ruin everything</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would never work, just before the proffesor sends the SOS message Gilligan will trip over the delicate instrument and ruin everything</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150476</id>
	<title>Feeding off Web 2.0 hype</title>
	<author>ickleberry</author>
	<datestamp>1266238260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because if they used any other protocol that doesn't involve sending huge amounts of redudant text and shiny graphics over a commercial telephone network it would never make the news.<br> <br>

Personally I'd find it much more amazing if some radio hobbyists managed to repair a transmitter from bits of scrap salvaged from the rubble and sent out a packet using that but we'd never hear about it because FB and Twitter were not involved</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because if they used any other protocol that does n't involve sending huge amounts of redudant text and shiny graphics over a commercial telephone network it would never make the news .
Personally I 'd find it much more amazing if some radio hobbyists managed to repair a transmitter from bits of scrap salvaged from the rubble and sent out a packet using that but we 'd never hear about it because FB and Twitter were not involved</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because if they used any other protocol that doesn't involve sending huge amounts of redudant text and shiny graphics over a commercial telephone network it would never make the news.
Personally I'd find it much more amazing if some radio hobbyists managed to repair a transmitter from bits of scrap salvaged from the rubble and sent out a packet using that but we'd never hear about it because FB and Twitter were not involved</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151634</id>
	<title>Ham radio is truly dead...</title>
	<author>pongo000</author>
	<datestamp>1266249060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...and not just because of this story.  But let's face it:  Very little information (except early reports of the quake itself) was disseminated from Haiti via ham radio.  <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703405704575015270690427744.html" title="wsj.com">80\% of the cellphone network of the second largest provider in Haiti was re-established within a week of the quake</a> [wsj.com].  Don't believe me?  Google "ham radio haiti".  As a long-time amateur radio operator who has been proclaiming the demise of ham radio for some years now, the proof is irrefutable:  Ham radio has been relegated to the technology basement.</p><p>Yes, I know the hams will be coming out of the woodwork, defending their hobby.  Or are they defending the large sums of money they've sunk into equipment that serves very little purpose in the way of emergency communications in today's world?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...and not just because of this story .
But let 's face it : Very little information ( except early reports of the quake itself ) was disseminated from Haiti via ham radio .
80 \ % of the cellphone network of the second largest provider in Haiti was re-established within a week of the quake [ wsj.com ] .
Do n't believe me ?
Google " ham radio haiti " .
As a long-time amateur radio operator who has been proclaiming the demise of ham radio for some years now , the proof is irrefutable : Ham radio has been relegated to the technology basement.Yes , I know the hams will be coming out of the woodwork , defending their hobby .
Or are they defending the large sums of money they 've sunk into equipment that serves very little purpose in the way of emergency communications in today 's world ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...and not just because of this story.
But let's face it:  Very little information (except early reports of the quake itself) was disseminated from Haiti via ham radio.
80\% of the cellphone network of the second largest provider in Haiti was re-established within a week of the quake [wsj.com].
Don't believe me?
Google "ham radio haiti".
As a long-time amateur radio operator who has been proclaiming the demise of ham radio for some years now, the proof is irrefutable:  Ham radio has been relegated to the technology basement.Yes, I know the hams will be coming out of the woodwork, defending their hobby.
Or are they defending the large sums of money they've sunk into equipment that serves very little purpose in the way of emergency communications in today's world?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150244</id>
	<title>GREAT!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Flamebait</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>majority of the impoverished population were given free iphone 3g models when the 3gss came out.  also great of the local network providers to give them all free unlimited data plans that even work when the local infrastructure is destroyed in an earthquake.</p><p>so sad that apple doesn't want to allow people to help people in haiti.</p><p>suck my balls android.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>majority of the impoverished population were given free iphone 3g models when the 3gss came out .
also great of the local network providers to give them all free unlimited data plans that even work when the local infrastructure is destroyed in an earthquake.so sad that apple does n't want to allow people to help people in haiti.suck my balls android .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>majority of the impoverished population were given free iphone 3g models when the 3gss came out.
also great of the local network providers to give them all free unlimited data plans that even work when the local infrastructure is destroyed in an earthquake.so sad that apple doesn't want to allow people to help people in haiti.suck my balls android.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151452</id>
	<title>Accurate Intel</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266247380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's all about getting accurate intel. It doesn't matter where it comes from!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's all about getting accurate intel .
It does n't matter where it comes from !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's all about getting accurate intel.
It doesn't matter where it comes from!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150258</id>
	<title>True Story</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My sister in law, a very attractive girl in college and unfortunatly, raised by nigger loving parents became close friends with a coalburner. Seeing no problem with this because her parents did her no favor by not educating her about the reality of real niggers, but how all niggers are magic niggers, this is what happened:</p><p>Coalburning friend asks her to take her and her buck nigger to a party because she had a car. So she actually gives this buck nigger a lift to the party. It's a college rager, everyone is drinking, her girlfriend leaves her to go smoke some black dick. She finds herself swarmed by a group of bucks totaly Muh Dikking her. One of them spikes her drink.</p><p>She wakes up in the morning on a mattress in the basement of a piss smelling apartment building. Her shoes, pants and underwear nowhere to be found. Her shirt is around her neck, her bra missing as well. No keys, cell, or purse either.</p><p>She felt somthing crusty all over her face along with a gagging awful slime in her mouth and throat. Her vagina and anus felt as if they were burning. She had been gang raped for what was later to be determined by at least 8 niggers for at least 2 hours, possibly longer.</p><p>She was able to pull her shirt down far enough to walk out to look for help. She saw a gas station 2 doors down but had to run behind the dumpster to throw up. She found her purse behind the dumpster, empty of course. She had a spare car key zipped into a purse pocket, she knew where she was and with a nasty discarded jacket she found behind the dumpster, she walked back to where the party was to get her car. It was gone, recovered a week later, tires smoked off, an empty chicken bucket in the backseat along with her jeans and underwear. They apparently used her car to drive her to the scene of the crime.</p><p>Back to the gas station to call her niggerloving dad. Suddenly, he wasn't the niggerlover he had been prior to his daughter sitting next to him with nigger jiz breath on the way to the hospital.</p><p>DNA was collected and she was given an abortion type pill to prevent her from having a zebra. No DNA matches because apparently the<br>criminals had never been caught by any enforcement agency yet.</p><p>Today, 10 years later, she has the worst type of STD known to man, it will never go away, but what does go away is any man who finds out she has an STD from a nigger gang bang. And if someday she finds a sympathetic man who isn't afraid to put his dick in her, he will also face the risk of catching a severe case of crank rot as well as any children she may have that will be infected.</p><p>Now, tell me how her niggerloving daddy did her any good preparing her for the real world. It was only one night but that one night ruined her for the rest of her life.</p><p>You could probably find daddy here on Chimpout today, but he paid a high price for addmission here, he paid it with one of his little girls.</p><p>Spread the word. Girls, stay away from niggers at all cost!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My sister in law , a very attractive girl in college and unfortunatly , raised by nigger loving parents became close friends with a coalburner .
Seeing no problem with this because her parents did her no favor by not educating her about the reality of real niggers , but how all niggers are magic niggers , this is what happened : Coalburning friend asks her to take her and her buck nigger to a party because she had a car .
So she actually gives this buck nigger a lift to the party .
It 's a college rager , everyone is drinking , her girlfriend leaves her to go smoke some black dick .
She finds herself swarmed by a group of bucks totaly Muh Dikking her .
One of them spikes her drink.She wakes up in the morning on a mattress in the basement of a piss smelling apartment building .
Her shoes , pants and underwear nowhere to be found .
Her shirt is around her neck , her bra missing as well .
No keys , cell , or purse either.She felt somthing crusty all over her face along with a gagging awful slime in her mouth and throat .
Her vagina and anus felt as if they were burning .
She had been gang raped for what was later to be determined by at least 8 niggers for at least 2 hours , possibly longer.She was able to pull her shirt down far enough to walk out to look for help .
She saw a gas station 2 doors down but had to run behind the dumpster to throw up .
She found her purse behind the dumpster , empty of course .
She had a spare car key zipped into a purse pocket , she knew where she was and with a nasty discarded jacket she found behind the dumpster , she walked back to where the party was to get her car .
It was gone , recovered a week later , tires smoked off , an empty chicken bucket in the backseat along with her jeans and underwear .
They apparently used her car to drive her to the scene of the crime.Back to the gas station to call her niggerloving dad .
Suddenly , he was n't the niggerlover he had been prior to his daughter sitting next to him with nigger jiz breath on the way to the hospital.DNA was collected and she was given an abortion type pill to prevent her from having a zebra .
No DNA matches because apparently thecriminals had never been caught by any enforcement agency yet.Today , 10 years later , she has the worst type of STD known to man , it will never go away , but what does go away is any man who finds out she has an STD from a nigger gang bang .
And if someday she finds a sympathetic man who is n't afraid to put his dick in her , he will also face the risk of catching a severe case of crank rot as well as any children she may have that will be infected.Now , tell me how her niggerloving daddy did her any good preparing her for the real world .
It was only one night but that one night ruined her for the rest of her life.You could probably find daddy here on Chimpout today , but he paid a high price for addmission here , he paid it with one of his little girls.Spread the word .
Girls , stay away from niggers at all cost !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My sister in law, a very attractive girl in college and unfortunatly, raised by nigger loving parents became close friends with a coalburner.
Seeing no problem with this because her parents did her no favor by not educating her about the reality of real niggers, but how all niggers are magic niggers, this is what happened:Coalburning friend asks her to take her and her buck nigger to a party because she had a car.
So she actually gives this buck nigger a lift to the party.
It's a college rager, everyone is drinking, her girlfriend leaves her to go smoke some black dick.
She finds herself swarmed by a group of bucks totaly Muh Dikking her.
One of them spikes her drink.She wakes up in the morning on a mattress in the basement of a piss smelling apartment building.
Her shoes, pants and underwear nowhere to be found.
Her shirt is around her neck, her bra missing as well.
No keys, cell, or purse either.She felt somthing crusty all over her face along with a gagging awful slime in her mouth and throat.
Her vagina and anus felt as if they were burning.
She had been gang raped for what was later to be determined by at least 8 niggers for at least 2 hours, possibly longer.She was able to pull her shirt down far enough to walk out to look for help.
She saw a gas station 2 doors down but had to run behind the dumpster to throw up.
She found her purse behind the dumpster, empty of course.
She had a spare car key zipped into a purse pocket, she knew where she was and with a nasty discarded jacket she found behind the dumpster, she walked back to where the party was to get her car.
It was gone, recovered a week later, tires smoked off, an empty chicken bucket in the backseat along with her jeans and underwear.
They apparently used her car to drive her to the scene of the crime.Back to the gas station to call her niggerloving dad.
Suddenly, he wasn't the niggerlover he had been prior to his daughter sitting next to him with nigger jiz breath on the way to the hospital.DNA was collected and she was given an abortion type pill to prevent her from having a zebra.
No DNA matches because apparently thecriminals had never been caught by any enforcement agency yet.Today, 10 years later, she has the worst type of STD known to man, it will never go away, but what does go away is any man who finds out she has an STD from a nigger gang bang.
And if someday she finds a sympathetic man who isn't afraid to put his dick in her, he will also face the risk of catching a severe case of crank rot as well as any children she may have that will be infected.Now, tell me how her niggerloving daddy did her any good preparing her for the real world.
It was only one night but that one night ruined her for the rest of her life.You could probably find daddy here on Chimpout today, but he paid a high price for addmission here, he paid it with one of his little girls.Spread the word.
Girls, stay away from niggers at all cost!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31150742</id>
	<title>Re:Internet saves</title>
	<author>davester666</author>
	<datestamp>1266240240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Really? RTFS, I thought they just used a 'flashlight' app on the Android phone, and were waving it in the air to direct people...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Really ?
RTFS , I thought they just used a 'flashlight ' app on the Android phone , and were waving it in the air to direct people.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Really?
RTFS, I thought they just used a 'flashlight' app on the Android phone, and were waving it in the air to direct people...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31151232</id>
	<title>Haitian Creole translator for Nokia</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266244920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tradikte - the first Haitian Creole translator for Nokia S60 devices was released today...check it out<br><a href="http://www.kiranwaka.com/haititrans/" title="kiranwaka.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.kiranwaka.com/haititrans/</a> [kiranwaka.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tradikte - the first Haitian Creole translator for Nokia S60 devices was released today...check it outhttp : //www.kiranwaka.com/haititrans/ [ kiranwaka.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tradikte - the first Haitian Creole translator for Nokia S60 devices was released today...check it outhttp://www.kiranwaka.com/haititrans/ [kiranwaka.com]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31153334</id>
	<title>Re:Ham radio is truly dead...Not</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266313140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There are couple of things that make Port-Au-Prince (PAP) unique.<br>Haiti gets regularly hit by hurricanes. They have an abysmal electrical system.<br>During normal times you are lucky to get 10 hours of electricity a day.<br>There are 4 cell phone carriers, 30 percent of the population owns cell phones.<br>If you are cell phone carrier, you always want to have 24 hours of operations.<br>In order to do that in PAP you had to have a very robust generator - fuel supply system and distribution just to handle the "Haiti" normal daily power outages.  So post catastrophe - guess what the cell phones came up pretty quick and many got to call the US to relatives to tell them "They are starving and had no water for days".  I'm pretty sure no post-apocalyptic fiction writer saw that one possibly happening.<br>Additionally with only one undersea cable a lot of telecom-traffic is handled by satellite and is also why TV/ISPs were able to deliver video and messages immediately after the quake.<br>The water system in PAP was also lousy in normal times so water-trucks, walking 5 miles to a kiosk a large portion of the population was used to that. So when the quake hit and the city lost its mains.  The water trucks still worked.<br>So ironically their horrible utilities and the system in place to cope with that saved many in a quake generated catastrophe.</p><p>Ham radio does not pretend to replace the phone company / 911 and never did. So you're a little misinformed there. And among the ham radio guys... all 650,000 in the US less than one half percent are trained and have an interest in<br>emergency communications Even then I am being generous.. probably closer to a quarter of percent.<br>Yes the ham radios and antennas can cost from 600-2500 dollars depending on your goals, but the equipment lasts 20 years.  So exactly how much money have you spent on computer equipment in 20 years and how much is that biyearly cell phone contract?  Ham radio plays a very very small but necessary role in helping route emergency information from point A to point B when all else fails it is the last line of communication.<br>Even in Katrina, the two groups I am credited with helping assist used cell phones to call out to a distant relative, I just completed their call for help to the closest authority. Even in the twitter example it took several hops to find someone who could help.</p><p>Ham radios role in Haiti this time can be counted on one hand.  I knew one of the two Haitian Ham radio operators that got on air a couple days after the quake.  Almost all in the Haitian Radio club had lost a relative to the quake.<br>How many Ham radio operators do think a very impoverished country as Haiti has?  Exactly what is that Haitian radio operator going to say on day two after the quake that we didnt already know.  We were sending the kitchen sink, the bathroom sink our neighbors sink in an effort to help take away some of the misery.</p><p>As a life long computer geek and later radio geek I applaud ANY means of communications method that saves lives and minimizes human misery.</p><p>Every disaster is different... if a category three hurricane hit PAP there would be no cell phone, nor satellite dishes...<br>But that undersea cable would still be there and radio always works.</p><p>AG4ZG</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There are couple of things that make Port-Au-Prince ( PAP ) unique.Haiti gets regularly hit by hurricanes .
They have an abysmal electrical system.During normal times you are lucky to get 10 hours of electricity a day.There are 4 cell phone carriers , 30 percent of the population owns cell phones.If you are cell phone carrier , you always want to have 24 hours of operations.In order to do that in PAP you had to have a very robust generator - fuel supply system and distribution just to handle the " Haiti " normal daily power outages .
So post catastrophe - guess what the cell phones came up pretty quick and many got to call the US to relatives to tell them " They are starving and had no water for days " .
I 'm pretty sure no post-apocalyptic fiction writer saw that one possibly happening.Additionally with only one undersea cable a lot of telecom-traffic is handled by satellite and is also why TV/ISPs were able to deliver video and messages immediately after the quake.The water system in PAP was also lousy in normal times so water-trucks , walking 5 miles to a kiosk a large portion of the population was used to that .
So when the quake hit and the city lost its mains .
The water trucks still worked.So ironically their horrible utilities and the system in place to cope with that saved many in a quake generated catastrophe.Ham radio does not pretend to replace the phone company / 911 and never did .
So you 're a little misinformed there .
And among the ham radio guys... all 650,000 in the US less than one half percent are trained and have an interest inemergency communications Even then I am being generous.. probably closer to a quarter of percent.Yes the ham radios and antennas can cost from 600-2500 dollars depending on your goals , but the equipment lasts 20 years .
So exactly how much money have you spent on computer equipment in 20 years and how much is that biyearly cell phone contract ?
Ham radio plays a very very small but necessary role in helping route emergency information from point A to point B when all else fails it is the last line of communication.Even in Katrina , the two groups I am credited with helping assist used cell phones to call out to a distant relative , I just completed their call for help to the closest authority .
Even in the twitter example it took several hops to find someone who could help.Ham radios role in Haiti this time can be counted on one hand .
I knew one of the two Haitian Ham radio operators that got on air a couple days after the quake .
Almost all in the Haitian Radio club had lost a relative to the quake.How many Ham radio operators do think a very impoverished country as Haiti has ?
Exactly what is that Haitian radio operator going to say on day two after the quake that we didnt already know .
We were sending the kitchen sink , the bathroom sink our neighbors sink in an effort to help take away some of the misery.As a life long computer geek and later radio geek I applaud ANY means of communications method that saves lives and minimizes human misery.Every disaster is different... if a category three hurricane hit PAP there would be no cell phone , nor satellite dishes...But that undersea cable would still be there and radio always works.AG4ZG</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There are couple of things that make Port-Au-Prince (PAP) unique.Haiti gets regularly hit by hurricanes.
They have an abysmal electrical system.During normal times you are lucky to get 10 hours of electricity a day.There are 4 cell phone carriers, 30 percent of the population owns cell phones.If you are cell phone carrier, you always want to have 24 hours of operations.In order to do that in PAP you had to have a very robust generator - fuel supply system and distribution just to handle the "Haiti" normal daily power outages.
So post catastrophe - guess what the cell phones came up pretty quick and many got to call the US to relatives to tell them "They are starving and had no water for days".
I'm pretty sure no post-apocalyptic fiction writer saw that one possibly happening.Additionally with only one undersea cable a lot of telecom-traffic is handled by satellite and is also why TV/ISPs were able to deliver video and messages immediately after the quake.The water system in PAP was also lousy in normal times so water-trucks, walking 5 miles to a kiosk a large portion of the population was used to that.
So when the quake hit and the city lost its mains.
The water trucks still worked.So ironically their horrible utilities and the system in place to cope with that saved many in a quake generated catastrophe.Ham radio does not pretend to replace the phone company / 911 and never did.
So you're a little misinformed there.
And among the ham radio guys... all 650,000 in the US less than one half percent are trained and have an interest inemergency communications Even then I am being generous.. probably closer to a quarter of percent.Yes the ham radios and antennas can cost from 600-2500 dollars depending on your goals, but the equipment lasts 20 years.
So exactly how much money have you spent on computer equipment in 20 years and how much is that biyearly cell phone contract?
Ham radio plays a very very small but necessary role in helping route emergency information from point A to point B when all else fails it is the last line of communication.Even in Katrina, the two groups I am credited with helping assist used cell phones to call out to a distant relative, I just completed their call for help to the closest authority.
Even in the twitter example it took several hops to find someone who could help.Ham radios role in Haiti this time can be counted on one hand.
I knew one of the two Haitian Ham radio operators that got on air a couple days after the quake.
Almost all in the Haitian Radio club had lost a relative to the quake.How many Ham radio operators do think a very impoverished country as Haiti has?
Exactly what is that Haitian radio operator going to say on day two after the quake that we didnt already know.
We were sending the kitchen sink, the bathroom sink our neighbors sink in an effort to help take away some of the misery.As a life long computer geek and later radio geek I applaud ANY means of communications method that saves lives and minimizes human misery.Every disaster is different... if a category three hurricane hit PAP there would be no cell phone, nor satellite dishes...But that undersea cable would still be there and radio always works.AG4ZG</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_15_2153214.31155932</id>
	<title>Re:FanBoid?</title>
	<author>konohitowa</author>
	<datestamp>1266340380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In summary: person that knows little to nothing of communications technology finds that communications technology is useful. I think this is more of a story for "Reader's Digest" -- not a self-proclaimed "News for Nerds" site.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In summary : person that knows little to nothing of communications technology finds that communications technology is useful .
I think this is more of a story for " Reader 's Digest " -- not a self-proclaimed " News for Nerds " site .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In summary: person that knows little to nothing of communications technology finds that communications technology is useful.
I think this is more of a story for "Reader's Digest" -- not a self-proclaimed "News for Nerds" site.</sentencetext>
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