<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_14_2254230</id>
	<title>Toshiba Developing High-Density 1TB SSD</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266150540000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://hothardware.com/" rel="nofollow">MojoKid</a> writes <i>"A new partnership between Toshiba and Tokyo's Keio University has led to the creation of a new <a href="http://hothardware.com/News/Toshiba-Develops-1TB-SSD-That-Fits-On-A-Postage-Stamp/">technology that could allow SSDs up to 1TB in size</a> to be made 'with a footprint no larger than a postage stamp.' The report states that the two have been able to integrate 128GB NAND Flash chips and a single controller into a stamp-sized form factor.  They've even made it operational with a transfer rates of 2Gbps (or about 250MB/sec) with data transfer that relies on radio communication."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>MojoKid writes " A new partnership between Toshiba and Tokyo 's Keio University has led to the creation of a new technology that could allow SSDs up to 1TB in size to be made 'with a footprint no larger than a postage stamp .
' The report states that the two have been able to integrate 128GB NAND Flash chips and a single controller into a stamp-sized form factor .
They 've even made it operational with a transfer rates of 2Gbps ( or about 250MB/sec ) with data transfer that relies on radio communication .
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<sentencetext>MojoKid writes "A new partnership between Toshiba and Tokyo's Keio University has led to the creation of a new technology that could allow SSDs up to 1TB in size to be made 'with a footprint no larger than a postage stamp.
' The report states that the two have been able to integrate 128GB NAND Flash chips and a single controller into a stamp-sized form factor.
They've even made it operational with a transfer rates of 2Gbps (or about 250MB/sec) with data transfer that relies on radio communication.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139396</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Get a better disk. Mine has been lasting for a lot longer than that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Get a better disk .
Mine has been lasting for a lot longer than that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Get a better disk.
Mine has been lasting for a lot longer than that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139636</id>
	<title>Lots of crap SSDs out there</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266159540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>it ended up lasting only about a month.</p> </div><p>You get what you pay for; if you're buying the equivalent of a few USB sticks taped together with an SSD sticker slapped on it then expect some unreliability.</p><p>Get a decent <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-level\_cell" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">SLC-based</a> [wikipedia.org] drive and it'll outlive any HDD on the market.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it ended up lasting only about a month .
You get what you pay for ; if you 're buying the equivalent of a few USB sticks taped together with an SSD sticker slapped on it then expect some unreliability.Get a decent SLC-based [ wikipedia.org ] drive and it 'll outlive any HDD on the market .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>it ended up lasting only about a month.
You get what you pay for; if you're buying the equivalent of a few USB sticks taped together with an SSD sticker slapped on it then expect some unreliability.Get a decent SLC-based [wikipedia.org] drive and it'll outlive any HDD on the market.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139444</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1266158280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>Was your SSD from the cheap seats, or one of the decent ones? People were doing substantially better than that, in terms of lifespan, back when "SSD" meant "CF card in an IDE adapter"... With an N of 1, I suspect that you might have just gotten a dud. Mechanical drives that are dead when you open the box aren't exactly unknown in the field(on the other hand, though, intel has had a couple of really embarrasing firmware issues, and anything that JMicron has cursed with their misbegotten controllers is utter junk, so the field does have some maturing to do).<br> <br>

More broadly, though, size and reliability are actually closely linked with Flash SSDs. It is inherent in the nature of Flash that it will only survive a limited number of writes before a given block of cells becomes unwriteable at best and unreliable at worst. SSD controllers deal with this by trying to spread writes as evenly as possible over the available Flash space, and by having some amount of reserve space that can silently be substituted for failed blocks. The trouble, of course, is that since Flash is expensive, there is a strong commercial imperative to make as much as possible of the Flash you include visible storage space, so you can put a big shiny number on the box, and as little as possible reserve space, since that is hard to brag about. As a consequence, you'll note that cheap consumer SSDs ship with substantially less reserve flash than do the expensive; but reliability focused, enterprise ones(some of which will even let the customer adjust the allocation between storage and reserve).<br> <br>

If you can make Flash denser and cheaper, you'll make it more likely that, for all but the crappiest fly-by-night shops soldering together stuff stolen from nearby dumpsters, adding more reserve Flash is cheaper than processing RMAs and dealing with angry customers. Improvements in the intrinsic reliability of Flash cells would be nice as well, of course; but we are already using vaguely RAID-like techniques to turn quantity into reliability, so improvements in density and cost are almost as good.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Was your SSD from the cheap seats , or one of the decent ones ?
People were doing substantially better than that , in terms of lifespan , back when " SSD " meant " CF card in an IDE adapter " ... With an N of 1 , I suspect that you might have just gotten a dud .
Mechanical drives that are dead when you open the box are n't exactly unknown in the field ( on the other hand , though , intel has had a couple of really embarrasing firmware issues , and anything that JMicron has cursed with their misbegotten controllers is utter junk , so the field does have some maturing to do ) .
More broadly , though , size and reliability are actually closely linked with Flash SSDs .
It is inherent in the nature of Flash that it will only survive a limited number of writes before a given block of cells becomes unwriteable at best and unreliable at worst .
SSD controllers deal with this by trying to spread writes as evenly as possible over the available Flash space , and by having some amount of reserve space that can silently be substituted for failed blocks .
The trouble , of course , is that since Flash is expensive , there is a strong commercial imperative to make as much as possible of the Flash you include visible storage space , so you can put a big shiny number on the box , and as little as possible reserve space , since that is hard to brag about .
As a consequence , you 'll note that cheap consumer SSDs ship with substantially less reserve flash than do the expensive ; but reliability focused , enterprise ones ( some of which will even let the customer adjust the allocation between storage and reserve ) .
If you can make Flash denser and cheaper , you 'll make it more likely that , for all but the crappiest fly-by-night shops soldering together stuff stolen from nearby dumpsters , adding more reserve Flash is cheaper than processing RMAs and dealing with angry customers .
Improvements in the intrinsic reliability of Flash cells would be nice as well , of course ; but we are already using vaguely RAID-like techniques to turn quantity into reliability , so improvements in density and cost are almost as good .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Was your SSD from the cheap seats, or one of the decent ones?
People were doing substantially better than that, in terms of lifespan, back when "SSD" meant "CF card in an IDE adapter"... With an N of 1, I suspect that you might have just gotten a dud.
Mechanical drives that are dead when you open the box aren't exactly unknown in the field(on the other hand, though, intel has had a couple of really embarrasing firmware issues, and anything that JMicron has cursed with their misbegotten controllers is utter junk, so the field does have some maturing to do).
More broadly, though, size and reliability are actually closely linked with Flash SSDs.
It is inherent in the nature of Flash that it will only survive a limited number of writes before a given block of cells becomes unwriteable at best and unreliable at worst.
SSD controllers deal with this by trying to spread writes as evenly as possible over the available Flash space, and by having some amount of reserve space that can silently be substituted for failed blocks.
The trouble, of course, is that since Flash is expensive, there is a strong commercial imperative to make as much as possible of the Flash you include visible storage space, so you can put a big shiny number on the box, and as little as possible reserve space, since that is hard to brag about.
As a consequence, you'll note that cheap consumer SSDs ship with substantially less reserve flash than do the expensive; but reliability focused, enterprise ones(some of which will even let the customer adjust the allocation between storage and reserve).
If you can make Flash denser and cheaper, you'll make it more likely that, for all but the crappiest fly-by-night shops soldering together stuff stolen from nearby dumpsters, adding more reserve Flash is cheaper than processing RMAs and dealing with angry customers.
Improvements in the intrinsic reliability of Flash cells would be nice as well, of course; but we are already using vaguely RAID-like techniques to turn quantity into reliability, so improvements in density and cost are almost as good.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142334</id>
	<title>Re:Radio?</title>
	<author>DaTrueDave</author>
	<datestamp>1266232080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Radio" communication indicates that the communication is done with 'radiated' transmission of data.  Modulated transmission not involving the radiation of a signal would not be called "radio" communication.

</p><p>So, yes, radio communication has to be over the air.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Radio " communication indicates that the communication is done with 'radiated ' transmission of data .
Modulated transmission not involving the radiation of a signal would not be called " radio " communication .
So , yes , radio communication has to be over the air .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Radio" communication indicates that the communication is done with 'radiated' transmission of data.
Modulated transmission not involving the radiation of a signal would not be called "radio" communication.
So, yes, radio communication has to be over the air.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31152548</id>
	<title>this'll be great for upcoming 'superphones'</title>
	<author>Tumbleweed</author>
	<datestamp>1266259500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A superphone with a 1TB SSD in it. Plug it into a dock at home with your huge screen, keyboard and mouse, and take it with you when you go. Rsync when you connect to the dock, which replicates to your off-site storage. Easy-peasy. With 1-2gHz dual-core (and quad core, according to NEC) smartphones coming out this year, the vast majority of computer users won't require anything more. Rock on.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A superphone with a 1TB SSD in it .
Plug it into a dock at home with your huge screen , keyboard and mouse , and take it with you when you go .
Rsync when you connect to the dock , which replicates to your off-site storage .
Easy-peasy. With 1-2gHz dual-core ( and quad core , according to NEC ) smartphones coming out this year , the vast majority of computer users wo n't require anything more .
Rock on .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A superphone with a 1TB SSD in it.
Plug it into a dock at home with your huge screen, keyboard and mouse, and take it with you when you go.
Rsync when you connect to the dock, which replicates to your off-site storage.
Easy-peasy. With 1-2gHz dual-core (and quad core, according to NEC) smartphones coming out this year, the vast majority of computer users won't require anything more.
Rock on.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139556</id>
	<title>Bah...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Let me know when they make communication between chips using quantum entanglement.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Let me know when they make communication between chips using quantum entanglement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Let me know when they make communication between chips using quantum entanglement.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140180</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>FridayBob</author>
	<datestamp>1266164040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Sorry, but I neglected to mention that the SSD in question was indeed both an early and a cheap model. I believe the manufacturer was OCZ, but I forget which model it was. This may subtract some weight from my original assertion, but I don't think all of it.<br>
<br>
By the end of 2008 the Intel X25-M was supposed to be the best thing around, but even that model suffered from a form of low-level fragmentation that was the result of using both wear leveling and write combining. These are workarounds for problems that are inherent to SSDs that use NAND flash chips -- especially of the MLC variety -- and a lot of the competition involves trying to develop controller chips that are better at keeping that inevitable fragmentation under control. Only, I don't think any of them will ever find a practical way to really solve the issue once and for all. So, I'm getting tired of hearing about the <i>"latest storage breakthroughs"</i> that are based on NAND flash technology.<br>
<br>
Okay, then why don't the chip manufacturers just ditch NAND all together and switch to a different technology with better prospects? Well, first because there's no demand for anything else (um, they don't want to invest the money that will create the demand), and second for the same reason the hard disk manufacturers don't want to quit: they first want to get as much money as they can out of their current investments (that largely involve MLC NAND). There's nothing to do about it; we're just going to have to be patient and wait for "business to run its course."<br>
<br>
In the mean time, I've now been waiting 15 years for some form of
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mram" title="wikipedia.org">MRAM</a> [wikipedia.org] to finally come of age: a type of universal memory that will blow away all the existing forms of memory, both volatile and non-volatile. Unfortunately, I suspect that for many more years this type of memory will exist only in my dreams.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but I neglected to mention that the SSD in question was indeed both an early and a cheap model .
I believe the manufacturer was OCZ , but I forget which model it was .
This may subtract some weight from my original assertion , but I do n't think all of it .
By the end of 2008 the Intel X25-M was supposed to be the best thing around , but even that model suffered from a form of low-level fragmentation that was the result of using both wear leveling and write combining .
These are workarounds for problems that are inherent to SSDs that use NAND flash chips -- especially of the MLC variety -- and a lot of the competition involves trying to develop controller chips that are better at keeping that inevitable fragmentation under control .
Only , I do n't think any of them will ever find a practical way to really solve the issue once and for all .
So , I 'm getting tired of hearing about the " latest storage breakthroughs " that are based on NAND flash technology .
Okay , then why do n't the chip manufacturers just ditch NAND all together and switch to a different technology with better prospects ?
Well , first because there 's no demand for anything else ( um , they do n't want to invest the money that will create the demand ) , and second for the same reason the hard disk manufacturers do n't want to quit : they first want to get as much money as they can out of their current investments ( that largely involve MLC NAND ) .
There 's nothing to do about it ; we 're just going to have to be patient and wait for " business to run its course .
" In the mean time , I 've now been waiting 15 years for some form of MRAM [ wikipedia.org ] to finally come of age : a type of universal memory that will blow away all the existing forms of memory , both volatile and non-volatile .
Unfortunately , I suspect that for many more years this type of memory will exist only in my dreams .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but I neglected to mention that the SSD in question was indeed both an early and a cheap model.
I believe the manufacturer was OCZ, but I forget which model it was.
This may subtract some weight from my original assertion, but I don't think all of it.
By the end of 2008 the Intel X25-M was supposed to be the best thing around, but even that model suffered from a form of low-level fragmentation that was the result of using both wear leveling and write combining.
These are workarounds for problems that are inherent to SSDs that use NAND flash chips -- especially of the MLC variety -- and a lot of the competition involves trying to develop controller chips that are better at keeping that inevitable fragmentation under control.
Only, I don't think any of them will ever find a practical way to really solve the issue once and for all.
So, I'm getting tired of hearing about the "latest storage breakthroughs" that are based on NAND flash technology.
Okay, then why don't the chip manufacturers just ditch NAND all together and switch to a different technology with better prospects?
Well, first because there's no demand for anything else (um, they don't want to invest the money that will create the demand), and second for the same reason the hard disk manufacturers don't want to quit: they first want to get as much money as they can out of their current investments (that largely involve MLC NAND).
There's nothing to do about it; we're just going to have to be patient and wait for "business to run its course.
"

In the mean time, I've now been waiting 15 years for some form of
MRAM [wikipedia.org] to finally come of age: a type of universal memory that will blow away all the existing forms of memory, both volatile and non-volatile.
Unfortunately, I suspect that for many more years this type of memory will exist only in my dreams.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138958</id>
	<title>Thank god.</title>
	<author>Karganeth</author>
	<datestamp>1266154860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't understand metres, they're too complicated.  Thank god they used the postage stamp method of measuring.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't understand metres , they 're too complicated .
Thank god they used the postage stamp method of measuring .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't understand metres, they're too complicated.
Thank god they used the postage stamp method of measuring.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139624</id>
	<title>Re:Makes me think of Arthur Clarke.</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1266159480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would still be an iPad, so everyone would mock it.</p><p>What's that? I'm missing the point? Hmmm...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would still be an iPad , so everyone would mock it.What 's that ?
I 'm missing the point ?
Hmmm.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would still be an iPad, so everyone would mock it.What's that?
I'm missing the point?
Hmmm...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139410</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Whereas mine ran for 3 years until I replaced the whole device.</p><p>Aren't anecdotes great!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Whereas mine ran for 3 years until I replaced the whole device.Are n't anecdotes great !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whereas mine ran for 3 years until I replaced the whole device.Aren't anecdotes great!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139600</id>
	<title>so you want to pay neogeo cart prices for games?</title>
	<author>Joe The Dragon</author>
	<datestamp>1266159300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>so you want to pay neogeo cart prices for games?<br>neogeo games used to cost alot as the price of the rom chips where high back then and while you can get 1tb HDD for under $100 what will a SSD one cost $500+?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>so you want to pay neogeo cart prices for games ? neogeo games used to cost alot as the price of the rom chips where high back then and while you can get 1tb HDD for under $ 100 what will a SSD one cost $ 500 + ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>so you want to pay neogeo cart prices for games?neogeo games used to cost alot as the price of the rom chips where high back then and while you can get 1tb HDD for under $100 what will a SSD one cost $500+?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31144716</id>
	<title>Re:Makes me think of Arthur Clarke.</title>
	<author>GargamelSpaceman</author>
	<datestamp>1266252660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>It would be wasted.   That's what always happens to excess capacity.  ( Hmm, I don't know if I might be interested in the entire contents of your storage thingy, so I'll just copy it onto mine in it's entirety. )   Of course you've copied many other people's thingies, onto yours and they've copied each other's and through six degrees of separation there's a copy of my thingy of a few versions ago already on your thingie that I've just recopied onto mine.  I could clean it out, but I won't because it's more work than it's worth since I have excess capacity.</htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be wasted .
That 's what always happens to excess capacity .
( Hmm , I do n't know if I might be interested in the entire contents of your storage thingy , so I 'll just copy it onto mine in it 's entirety .
) Of course you 've copied many other people 's thingies , onto yours and they 've copied each other 's and through six degrees of separation there 's a copy of my thingy of a few versions ago already on your thingie that I 've just recopied onto mine .
I could clean it out , but I wo n't because it 's more work than it 's worth since I have excess capacity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be wasted.
That's what always happens to excess capacity.
( Hmm, I don't know if I might be interested in the entire contents of your storage thingy, so I'll just copy it onto mine in it's entirety.
)   Of course you've copied many other people's thingies, onto yours and they've copied each other's and through six degrees of separation there's a copy of my thingy of a few versions ago already on your thingie that I've just recopied onto mine.
I could clean it out, but I won't because it's more work than it's worth since I have excess capacity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31150522</id>
	<title>from an economic standpoint</title>
	<author>snapple)(two</author>
	<datestamp>1266238620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From an economic standpoint this could actually <i>save</i> money, provided that it comes embedded in the console and that the media is provided via download (for a fee, of course) rather than printing a CD for every customer and every title. Also, if it was physically embedded in the console, it would phenomenally improve DRM issues.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From an economic standpoint this could actually save money , provided that it comes embedded in the console and that the media is provided via download ( for a fee , of course ) rather than printing a CD for every customer and every title .
Also , if it was physically embedded in the console , it would phenomenally improve DRM issues .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From an economic standpoint this could actually save money, provided that it comes embedded in the console and that the media is provided via download (for a fee, of course) rather than printing a CD for every customer and every title.
Also, if it was physically embedded in the console, it would phenomenally improve DRM issues.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142164</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>dnaumov</author>
	<datestamp>1266230040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... it's reliability that's the real issue. SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g. turned off atime, while<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/temp,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home etc. were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.</p></div><p>You had a broken/faulty unit, this can happen with any kind of disk. Even cheap USB flash sticks easily last over a year of the kind of use you describe. Intel X25-M SSDs for example, are specced for 24/7 use with 100gb of data being written to disk EVERY DAY and this is a consumer MLC SSD. Enterprise SLC disks are much more resilient then that (albeit a lot more expensive).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... it 's reliability that 's the real issue .
SSDs are a great idea in theory , but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one , taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it ( e.g .
turned off atime , while /var , /temp , /home etc .
were located on hard disks ) , it ended up lasting only about a month.You had a broken/faulty unit , this can happen with any kind of disk .
Even cheap USB flash sticks easily last over a year of the kind of use you describe .
Intel X25-M SSDs for example , are specced for 24/7 use with 100gb of data being written to disk EVERY DAY and this is a consumer MLC SSD .
Enterprise SLC disks are much more resilient then that ( albeit a lot more expensive ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... it's reliability that's the real issue.
SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g.
turned off atime, while /var, /temp, /home etc.
were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.You had a broken/faulty unit, this can happen with any kind of disk.
Even cheap USB flash sticks easily last over a year of the kind of use you describe.
Intel X25-M SSDs for example, are specced for 24/7 use with 100gb of data being written to disk EVERY DAY and this is a consumer MLC SSD.
Enterprise SLC disks are much more resilient then that (albeit a lot more expensive).
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139662</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266159780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I, for one, will not buy a 1TB SSD until it's small enough that I'm guaranteed to lose it within the first day of getting it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I , for one , will not buy a 1TB SSD until it 's small enough that I 'm guaranteed to lose it within the first day of getting it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I, for one, will not buy a 1TB SSD until it's small enough that I'm guaranteed to lose it within the first day of getting it.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31143912</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>MobyDisk</author>
	<datestamp>1266248820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's odd.  SSDs are far more reliable than hard drives.  So either you did something very wrong, or they were defective and I hope you had them replaced since they would be under warranty.  Did they tell you why it failed?  Even <a href="http://www.ramsan.com/success/ccpgames.htm" title="ramsan.com">large-scale MMOs run on SSDs</a> [ramsan.com] and don't have reliability problems.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's odd .
SSDs are far more reliable than hard drives .
So either you did something very wrong , or they were defective and I hope you had them replaced since they would be under warranty .
Did they tell you why it failed ?
Even large-scale MMOs run on SSDs [ ramsan.com ] and do n't have reliability problems .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's odd.
SSDs are far more reliable than hard drives.
So either you did something very wrong, or they were defective and I hope you had them replaced since they would be under warranty.
Did they tell you why it failed?
Even large-scale MMOs run on SSDs [ramsan.com] and don't have reliability problems.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139580</id>
	<title>Which make/model of SSD drive?</title>
	<author>darekana</author>
	<datestamp>1266159120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Would you care to provide the model number of the SSD you used for reference?</p><p>Thanks!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Would you care to provide the model number of the SSD you used for reference ? Thanks !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Would you care to provide the model number of the SSD you used for reference?Thanks!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31141964</id>
	<title>Re:SSDs and Cost</title>
	<author>Tromad</author>
	<datestamp>1266227100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A hard drive failure should rarely be a big deal. Use the SSD for the main OS and your main programs, all important data on a regular hard drive, and do (at least) weekly external backups for both. In that case if your SSD dies you're out a couple of hours and a warranty return. I just tried to repair my bosses hard drive (irrecoverable; OS won't boot with it attached, tools report hardware failure) and he lost about 5 years of important documents with no backups.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A hard drive failure should rarely be a big deal .
Use the SSD for the main OS and your main programs , all important data on a regular hard drive , and do ( at least ) weekly external backups for both .
In that case if your SSD dies you 're out a couple of hours and a warranty return .
I just tried to repair my bosses hard drive ( irrecoverable ; OS wo n't boot with it attached , tools report hardware failure ) and he lost about 5 years of important documents with no backups .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A hard drive failure should rarely be a big deal.
Use the SSD for the main OS and your main programs, all important data on a regular hard drive, and do (at least) weekly external backups for both.
In that case if your SSD dies you're out a couple of hours and a warranty return.
I just tried to repair my bosses hard drive (irrecoverable; OS won't boot with it attached, tools report hardware failure) and he lost about 5 years of important documents with no backups.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31141460</id>
	<title>Re:Thank god.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266264240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>So what's that in Metric inches or the even more usable nanoacres?<br>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_unusual\_units\_of\_measurement</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>So what 's that in Metric inches or the even more usable nanoacres ? http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List \ _of \ _unusual \ _units \ _of \ _measurement</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So what's that in Metric inches or the even more usable nanoacres?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_unusual\_units\_of\_measurement</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139210</id>
	<title>Re:Thank god.</title>
	<author>ijakings</author>
	<datestamp>1266156720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Thats all well and good, but I dont understand the significance of this until its delivered in standard Libraries of Congress units.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Thats all well and good , but I dont understand the significance of this until its delivered in standard Libraries of Congress units .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Thats all well and good, but I dont understand the significance of this until its delivered in standard Libraries of Congress units.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142188</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>hahn</author>
	<datestamp>1266230340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... it's reliability that's the real issue. SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g. turned off atime, while<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/temp,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home etc. were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.

I would love to replace my hard disks, arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers, with SSDs, but only if they are more reliable in the first place, and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.</p></div><p>Um, those of us who would like a much smaller desktop or a smaller (and lighter) notebook computer care about size.  If you can have 1 TB postage sized hard drive, engineers would have a MUCH easier time creating smaller form factors.  Furthermore, besides the smaller size, you also have far fewer concerns about heat AND moving parts (a factor for notebook computers which are dropped fairly frequently).  With non-server usage levels, SSD's in my experience have been quite reliable.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... it 's reliability that 's the real issue .
SSDs are a great idea in theory , but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one , taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it ( e.g .
turned off atime , while /var , /temp , /home etc .
were located on hard disks ) , it ended up lasting only about a month .
I would love to replace my hard disks , arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers , with SSDs , but only if they are more reliable in the first place , and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.Um , those of us who would like a much smaller desktop or a smaller ( and lighter ) notebook computer care about size .
If you can have 1 TB postage sized hard drive , engineers would have a MUCH easier time creating smaller form factors .
Furthermore , besides the smaller size , you also have far fewer concerns about heat AND moving parts ( a factor for notebook computers which are dropped fairly frequently ) .
With non-server usage levels , SSD 's in my experience have been quite reliable .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... it's reliability that's the real issue.
SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g.
turned off atime, while /var, /temp, /home etc.
were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.
I would love to replace my hard disks, arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers, with SSDs, but only if they are more reliable in the first place, and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.Um, those of us who would like a much smaller desktop or a smaller (and lighter) notebook computer care about size.
If you can have 1 TB postage sized hard drive, engineers would have a MUCH easier time creating smaller form factors.
Furthermore, besides the smaller size, you also have far fewer concerns about heat AND moving parts (a factor for notebook computers which are dropped fairly frequently).
With non-server usage levels, SSD's in my experience have been quite reliable.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140512</id>
	<title>Re:Radio?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266167100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Radio communication does not say it has to be over the air, it means that there is a carrier wave (in the wire) that has the signals put on top of just like radio.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Radio communication does not say it has to be over the air , it means that there is a carrier wave ( in the wire ) that has the signals put on top of just like radio .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Radio communication does not say it has to be over the air, it means that there is a carrier wave (in the wire) that has the signals put on top of just like radio.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31141396</id>
	<title>SSDs and Cost</title>
	<author>yoshi\_mon</author>
	<datestamp>1266177360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really like the idea of a device that does not need to be constantly de-fragmented.  To me, above the moving parts issue/noise/heat issues, it is paramount.  However I need my data storage to be reliable and right now SSDs still don't have the track record.</p><p>I understand that there are those people who are running 2-4x SSD drives in a RAID0 that are fully happy.  But mostly they are gamers who don't care if they have to do a reinstall if that array fails.  And or don't really have any sort of long term data that they mind wiping at the drop of a hat.</p><p>I personally deal with end users who care a lot about their digital pictures, email, and other assorted crap.  As it stands right now those ol' spinning platters still offer us all the best reliability at the lowest cost point.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really like the idea of a device that does not need to be constantly de-fragmented .
To me , above the moving parts issue/noise/heat issues , it is paramount .
However I need my data storage to be reliable and right now SSDs still do n't have the track record.I understand that there are those people who are running 2-4x SSD drives in a RAID0 that are fully happy .
But mostly they are gamers who do n't care if they have to do a reinstall if that array fails .
And or do n't really have any sort of long term data that they mind wiping at the drop of a hat.I personally deal with end users who care a lot about their digital pictures , email , and other assorted crap .
As it stands right now those ol ' spinning platters still offer us all the best reliability at the lowest cost point .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really like the idea of a device that does not need to be constantly de-fragmented.
To me, above the moving parts issue/noise/heat issues, it is paramount.
However I need my data storage to be reliable and right now SSDs still don't have the track record.I understand that there are those people who are running 2-4x SSD drives in a RAID0 that are fully happy.
But mostly they are gamers who don't care if they have to do a reinstall if that array fails.
And or don't really have any sort of long term data that they mind wiping at the drop of a hat.I personally deal with end users who care a lot about their digital pictures, email, and other assorted crap.
As it stands right now those ol' spinning platters still offer us all the best reliability at the lowest cost point.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31147448</id>
	<title>Re:And we've reached a point where....</title>
	<author>guspasho</author>
	<datestamp>1266266040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What format of money have you been using? This happened decades ago, but then again I only use pennies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What format of money have you been using ?
This happened decades ago , but then again I only use pennies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What format of money have you been using?
This happened decades ago, but then again I only use pennies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31143720</id>
	<title>Re:End of the hard drive soon</title>
	<author>petermgreen</author>
	<datestamp>1266247860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lets look at a few metrics.</p><p>1: performance: afaict SSDs are already the clear winner here.<br>2: density: I can put a 2TB drive in a standard 3.5 inch bay. Afaict SSDs are generally the same size as laptop hard drives and you can put two of those in a 3.5 inch bay with readilly available adaptor kits. Afaict the drives go up to 512GB so the density is about half that of HDDs. For laptops the density situation is even closer (especially if the laptop in question only has a 9.5mm high bay).<br>3: cost: the aforementioned 2TB hard drives cost $150-$300 while a 512GB SSD costs $1400 so the cost per gigabyte is about 20 to 40 times higher for the SSD.</p><p>In other words the main issue for SSDs right now is cost.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lets look at a few metrics.1 : performance : afaict SSDs are already the clear winner here.2 : density : I can put a 2TB drive in a standard 3.5 inch bay .
Afaict SSDs are generally the same size as laptop hard drives and you can put two of those in a 3.5 inch bay with readilly available adaptor kits .
Afaict the drives go up to 512GB so the density is about half that of HDDs .
For laptops the density situation is even closer ( especially if the laptop in question only has a 9.5mm high bay ) .3 : cost : the aforementioned 2TB hard drives cost $ 150- $ 300 while a 512GB SSD costs $ 1400 so the cost per gigabyte is about 20 to 40 times higher for the SSD.In other words the main issue for SSDs right now is cost .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lets look at a few metrics.1: performance: afaict SSDs are already the clear winner here.2: density: I can put a 2TB drive in a standard 3.5 inch bay.
Afaict SSDs are generally the same size as laptop hard drives and you can put two of those in a 3.5 inch bay with readilly available adaptor kits.
Afaict the drives go up to 512GB so the density is about half that of HDDs.
For laptops the density situation is even closer (especially if the laptop in question only has a 9.5mm high bay).3: cost: the aforementioned 2TB hard drives cost $150-$300 while a 512GB SSD costs $1400 so the cost per gigabyte is about 20 to 40 times higher for the SSD.In other words the main issue for SSDs right now is cost.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140502</id>
	<title>Impressive,but what is this phrase "postage stamp"</title>
	<author>viking80</author>
	<datestamp>1266167040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Seems very impressive, but what is this phrase "postage stamp". Is this also part of some newfangled technology we may never see? I for on will probably be fine with good old email for a long time to come.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Seems very impressive , but what is this phrase " postage stamp " .
Is this also part of some newfangled technology we may never see ?
I for on will probably be fine with good old email for a long time to come .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Seems very impressive, but what is this phrase "postage stamp".
Is this also part of some newfangled technology we may never see?
I for on will probably be fine with good old email for a long time to come.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139024</id>
	<title>mod 0P</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266155400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>insisted that Usenet. In 1995, GNAA on slashdot, Are -a pathetic Took precedeNce the same operation</htmltext>
<tokenext>insisted that Usenet .
In 1995 , GNAA on slashdot , Are -a pathetic Took precedeNce the same operation</tokentext>
<sentencetext>insisted that Usenet.
In 1995, GNAA on slashdot, Are -a pathetic Took precedeNce the same operation</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142074</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266228480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>... it's reliability that's the real issue. SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g. turned off atime, while<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/temp,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home etc. were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.</p><p>I would love to replace my hard disks, arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers, with SSDs, but only if they are more reliable in the first place, and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.</p></div><p>You either used a really cheap drive meant for netbooks, or you simply got a broken drive and didn't do a burn-in period. It's not like mechanical drives never fail, so just because you had a bad experience, once, that doesn't mean you should give out bad advice based on an anecdote.</p><p>Even a decent desktop drive can be overwritten at least a thousand times, and most 'enterprise grade' drives are rated for 100,000 or more. At the high-end, look at the products made by FusionIO or EMC, you'll get drives that might go to a million rewrites, and will actively report degradation so you can replace them before they die.</p><p>Also keep in mind that smaller drives are both slower and wear out faster. It's worth getting larger drives or striping several smaller ones to spread the write wear.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>... it 's reliability that 's the real issue .
SSDs are a great idea in theory , but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one , taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it ( e.g .
turned off atime , while /var , /temp , /home etc .
were located on hard disks ) , it ended up lasting only about a month.I would love to replace my hard disks , arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers , with SSDs , but only if they are more reliable in the first place , and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.You either used a really cheap drive meant for netbooks , or you simply got a broken drive and did n't do a burn-in period .
It 's not like mechanical drives never fail , so just because you had a bad experience , once , that does n't mean you should give out bad advice based on an anecdote.Even a decent desktop drive can be overwritten at least a thousand times , and most 'enterprise grade ' drives are rated for 100,000 or more .
At the high-end , look at the products made by FusionIO or EMC , you 'll get drives that might go to a million rewrites , and will actively report degradation so you can replace them before they die.Also keep in mind that smaller drives are both slower and wear out faster .
It 's worth getting larger drives or striping several smaller ones to spread the write wear .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ... it's reliability that's the real issue.
SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g.
turned off atime, while /var, /temp, /home etc.
were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.I would love to replace my hard disks, arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers, with SSDs, but only if they are more reliable in the first place, and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.You either used a really cheap drive meant for netbooks, or you simply got a broken drive and didn't do a burn-in period.
It's not like mechanical drives never fail, so just because you had a bad experience, once, that doesn't mean you should give out bad advice based on an anecdote.Even a decent desktop drive can be overwritten at least a thousand times, and most 'enterprise grade' drives are rated for 100,000 or more.
At the high-end, look at the products made by FusionIO or EMC, you'll get drives that might go to a million rewrites, and will actively report degradation so you can replace them before they die.Also keep in mind that smaller drives are both slower and wear out faster.
It's worth getting larger drives or striping several smaller ones to spread the write wear.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142570</id>
	<title>Re:And we've reached a point where....</title>
	<author>jez9999</author>
	<datestamp>1266235800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The total weight of the money that you spend on end-user storage exceeds the weight of the storage device itself.</i></p><p>I pay for my tech stuff online, using a debit card.  What's the weight of the bits needed to carry out that transaction?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The total weight of the money that you spend on end-user storage exceeds the weight of the storage device itself.I pay for my tech stuff online , using a debit card .
What 's the weight of the bits needed to carry out that transaction ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The total weight of the money that you spend on end-user storage exceeds the weight of the storage device itself.I pay for my tech stuff online, using a debit card.
What's the weight of the bits needed to carry out that transaction?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140464</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>Nefarious Wheel</author>
	<datestamp>1266166800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"Hi, I just received a postcard from blizzard-rewards.com with a realm on it.  Is it safe to load?"</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Hi , I just received a postcard from blizzard-rewards.com with a realm on it .
Is it safe to load ?
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Hi, I just received a postcard from blizzard-rewards.com with a realm on it.
Is it safe to load?
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142050</id>
	<title>Keio University? That's where I work!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266228180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey! I work at Keio University! I wonder if we'll be getting these as party favors at our next holiday soiree, along with the bottom-of-the-barrel beer and convenience-store sandwiches!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey !
I work at Keio University !
I wonder if we 'll be getting these as party favors at our next holiday soiree , along with the bottom-of-the-barrel beer and convenience-store sandwiches !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey!
I work at Keio University!
I wonder if we'll be getting these as party favors at our next holiday soiree, along with the bottom-of-the-barrel beer and convenience-store sandwiches!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31144656</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>GargamelSpaceman</author>
	<datestamp>1266252420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I seriously thought about ssding it this time around when purchasing a laptop.  I just couldn't quantify the supposed advantages in power use of SSD over a HD.  Still, SSD may have other advantages in random access situations.  It would have been nice to try.</p><p>Anyway, I'm thinking of putting my whole installation on a 16 GB usb keychain thingie, and using the hard drive for archival purposes. Maybe I can just shut the HD off when not in use.  Still, those aren't very big.  There'd be a lot of writing going on for just 16 GBs..  Maybe it would die quick.   Still, maybe 128 gigs will be cheap soon..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seriously thought about ssding it this time around when purchasing a laptop .
I just could n't quantify the supposed advantages in power use of SSD over a HD .
Still , SSD may have other advantages in random access situations .
It would have been nice to try.Anyway , I 'm thinking of putting my whole installation on a 16 GB usb keychain thingie , and using the hard drive for archival purposes .
Maybe I can just shut the HD off when not in use .
Still , those are n't very big .
There 'd be a lot of writing going on for just 16 GBs.. Maybe it would die quick .
Still , maybe 128 gigs will be cheap soon. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seriously thought about ssding it this time around when purchasing a laptop.
I just couldn't quantify the supposed advantages in power use of SSD over a HD.
Still, SSD may have other advantages in random access situations.
It would have been nice to try.Anyway, I'm thinking of putting my whole installation on a 16 GB usb keychain thingie, and using the hard drive for archival purposes.
Maybe I can just shut the HD off when not in use.
Still, those aren't very big.
There'd be a lot of writing going on for just 16 GBs..  Maybe it would die quick.
Still, maybe 128 gigs will be cheap soon..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139662</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139390</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"HDDs are unreliable?" - How so? The reliability rates aren't the same HD's are way better. Also, if your HD goes dead, your data is still physically there... all you have to do is take it in to a recovery center and drop 1000$ and you can get it recovered, on a flash disk your data is gone... forever. Have you ever tried to recover data from a dead flash usb drive with a dead controller? On a hard drive you can buy a simmilar controller and still get your data off, I've done it numerous times. Flash stinks.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" HDDs are unreliable ?
" - How so ?
The reliability rates are n't the same HD 's are way better .
Also , if your HD goes dead , your data is still physically there... all you have to do is take it in to a recovery center and drop 1000 $ and you can get it recovered , on a flash disk your data is gone... forever. Have you ever tried to recover data from a dead flash usb drive with a dead controller ?
On a hard drive you can buy a simmilar controller and still get your data off , I 've done it numerous times .
Flash stinks .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"HDDs are unreliable?
" - How so?
The reliability rates aren't the same HD's are way better.
Also, if your HD goes dead, your data is still physically there... all you have to do is take it in to a recovery center and drop 1000$ and you can get it recovered, on a flash disk your data is gone... forever. Have you ever tried to recover data from a dead flash usb drive with a dead controller?
On a hard drive you can buy a simmilar controller and still get your data off, I've done it numerous times.
Flash stinks.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138932</id>
	<title>First</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266154740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>First postage</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>First postage</tokentext>
<sentencetext>First postage</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139134</id>
	<title>Radio?</title>
	<author>The MAZZTer</author>
	<datestamp>1266156000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"...with data transfer that relies on radio communication."</p><p>Well that sounds like an eavesdropping invitation if I ever heard one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" ...with data transfer that relies on radio communication .
" Well that sounds like an eavesdropping invitation if I ever heard one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"...with data transfer that relies on radio communication.
"Well that sounds like an eavesdropping invitation if I ever heard one.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139330</id>
	<title>Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>... it's reliability that's the real issue. SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g. turned off atime, while<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/var,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/temp,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/home etc. were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month. <br>
<br>
I would love to replace my hard disks, arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers, with SSDs, but only if they are more reliable in the first place, and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... it 's reliability that 's the real issue .
SSDs are a great idea in theory , but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one , taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it ( e.g .
turned off atime , while /var , /temp , /home etc .
were located on hard disks ) , it ended up lasting only about a month .
I would love to replace my hard disks , arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers , with SSDs , but only if they are more reliable in the first place , and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... it's reliability that's the real issue.
SSDs are a great idea in theory, but in practice the only time I tried to build a server around one, taking great care to ensure that as little as possible would ever be ever written to it (e.g.
turned off atime, while /var, /temp, /home etc.
were located on hard disks), it ended up lasting only about a month.
I would love to replace my hard disks, arguably the most critical and vulnerable components of my computers, with SSDs, but only if they are more reliable in the first place, and can thereafter be regarded generally as an improvement.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140944</id>
	<title>Make them affordable instead of larger</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266171600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We always hear about SSD flash technology and how cool it is but we never seem to get it. SSDs are now more expensive than last year...So, what's the point of 1TB SSD when I can't even afford a 30GB one?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We always hear about SSD flash technology and how cool it is but we never seem to get it .
SSDs are now more expensive than last year...So , what 's the point of 1TB SSD when I ca n't even afford a 30GB one ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We always hear about SSD flash technology and how cool it is but we never seem to get it.
SSDs are now more expensive than last year...So, what's the point of 1TB SSD when I can't even afford a 30GB one?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138926</id>
	<title>Gaming?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266154680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I really hope all these high-density storage systems will be used for gaming, HDDs are unreliable and large SSDs would allow for fast load times, better non-DRM copy protection and the ability to save games without paying extra.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope all these high-density storage systems will be used for gaming , HDDs are unreliable and large SSDs would allow for fast load times , better non-DRM copy protection and the ability to save games without paying extra .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope all these high-density storage systems will be used for gaming, HDDs are unreliable and large SSDs would allow for fast load times, better non-DRM copy protection and the ability to save games without paying extra.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31150030</id>
	<title>Re:And we've reached a point where....</title>
	<author>BlueParrot</author>
	<datestamp>1266235380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That has been true for regular A4 paper for quite a while...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That has been true for regular A4 paper for quite a while.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That has been true for regular A4 paper for quite a while...</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140208</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139124</id>
	<title>Good.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266156000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Now get back to me when you've built 24+2 of them into a 1x10x10 cm 12 core blade with water cooling.</p><p>Or 256 of them into a 1U half-depth fanless storage array.</p><p>I loathe seeing racks upon racks of heat spewing, power sucking, storage arrays.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now get back to me when you 've built 24 + 2 of them into a 1x10x10 cm 12 core blade with water cooling.Or 256 of them into a 1U half-depth fanless storage array.I loathe seeing racks upon racks of heat spewing , power sucking , storage arrays .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now get back to me when you've built 24+2 of them into a 1x10x10 cm 12 core blade with water cooling.Or 256 of them into a 1U half-depth fanless storage array.I loathe seeing racks upon racks of heat spewing, power sucking, storage arrays.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139100</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>geekmux</author>
	<datestamp>1266155880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I really hope all these high-density storage systems will be used for gaming, HDDs are unreliable and large SSDs would allow for fast load times, better non-DRM copy protection and the ability to save games without paying extra.</p></div><p>Yeah, because God forbid the game manufacturers(or anyone else for that matter) take advantage of the 1GB or more of DDR5-speed memory on video cards, or the fact that you can slam 16GB of ultra-fast DDR3 memory onto your average mobos these days for a fraction of what you would spend on this kind of hardware.  I mean damn, DDR3 only pokes along at a "measly" 1600MBps...</p><p>I really fail to see the setback in this arena.  Seriously.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I really hope all these high-density storage systems will be used for gaming , HDDs are unreliable and large SSDs would allow for fast load times , better non-DRM copy protection and the ability to save games without paying extra.Yeah , because God forbid the game manufacturers ( or anyone else for that matter ) take advantage of the 1GB or more of DDR5-speed memory on video cards , or the fact that you can slam 16GB of ultra-fast DDR3 memory onto your average mobos these days for a fraction of what you would spend on this kind of hardware .
I mean damn , DDR3 only pokes along at a " measly " 1600MBps...I really fail to see the setback in this arena .
Seriously .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really hope all these high-density storage systems will be used for gaming, HDDs are unreliable and large SSDs would allow for fast load times, better non-DRM copy protection and the ability to save games without paying extra.Yeah, because God forbid the game manufacturers(or anyone else for that matter) take advantage of the 1GB or more of DDR5-speed memory on video cards, or the fact that you can slam 16GB of ultra-fast DDR3 memory onto your average mobos these days for a fraction of what you would spend on this kind of hardware.
I mean damn, DDR3 only pokes along at a "measly" 1600MBps...I really fail to see the setback in this arena.
Seriously.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139498</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I heard they have this thing called a warranty.From what I've read - Intel has a three year warranty on their SSD's. You *do* backup your data on a regular basis, right? Yeah-- me neither!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I heard they have this thing called a warranty.From what I 've read - Intel has a three year warranty on their SSD 's .
You * do * backup your data on a regular basis , right ?
Yeah-- me neither !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I heard they have this thing called a warranty.From what I've read - Intel has a three year warranty on their SSD's.
You *do* backup your data on a regular basis, right?
Yeah-- me neither!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139330</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138988</id>
	<title>DO WANT.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266155040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For my databases.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For my databases .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For my databases.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142874</id>
	<title>More vapourware like their SAS SSD?</title>
	<author>Eunuchswear</author>
	<datestamp>1266239460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What ever happened to the THNS064GF8BEAA?</p><p>Announced Jan 2009:</p><blockquote><div><p>Samples of the new drives will be available in late first quarter of 2009, with mass production in the second quarter.</p></div></blockquote><p>And where is it now?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What ever happened to the THNS064GF8BEAA ? Announced Jan 2009 : Samples of the new drives will be available in late first quarter of 2009 , with mass production in the second quarter.And where is it now ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What ever happened to the THNS064GF8BEAA?Announced Jan 2009:Samples of the new drives will be available in late first quarter of 2009, with mass production in the second quarter.And where is it now?
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31152394</id>
	<title>For use by Apple?</title>
	<author>4phun</author>
	<datestamp>1266258060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>For Apple, who pioneers future tech, and their new iPad?</htmltext>
<tokenext>For Apple , who pioneers future tech , and their new iPad ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For Apple, who pioneers future tech, and their new iPad?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31160206</id>
	<title>Too advanced</title>
	<author>^\_^x</author>
	<datestamp>1266314700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's cool for them, and it may trickle down to us eventually. For now it sounds too advanced to actually happen, so I'll start looking for it after we get those 5TB holographic optical discs that should be available about 5 years after 1999.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's cool for them , and it may trickle down to us eventually .
For now it sounds too advanced to actually happen , so I 'll start looking for it after we get those 5TB holographic optical discs that should be available about 5 years after 1999 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's cool for them, and it may trickle down to us eventually.
For now it sounds too advanced to actually happen, so I'll start looking for it after we get those 5TB holographic optical discs that should be available about 5 years after 1999.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139254</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266156900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Wait, HDDs are unreliable? What exactly are you talking about and/or referring to? I have yet to see one of my drives unexpectedly fail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Wait , HDDs are unreliable ?
What exactly are you talking about and/or referring to ?
I have yet to see one of my drives unexpectedly fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wait, HDDs are unreliable?
What exactly are you talking about and/or referring to?
I have yet to see one of my drives unexpectedly fail.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139974</id>
	<title>Re:so you want to pay neogeo cart prices for games</title>
	<author>my $anity  0</author>
	<datestamp>1266162240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>and DS games cost $100?</htmltext>
<tokenext>and DS games cost $ 100 ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and DS games cost $100?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139600</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139010</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>negRo\_slim</author>
	<datestamp>1266155340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Bring back the cartridge.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Bring back the cartridge .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Bring back the cartridge.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138926</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139644</id>
	<title>Re:Makes me think of Arthur Clarke.</title>
	<author>KillShill</author>
	<datestamp>1266159600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wonder what a useful device like the "minisec" would be without it being straddled to a crippled-by-design product like the iXXXX.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wonder what a useful device like the " minisec " would be without it being straddled to a crippled-by-design product like the iXXXX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wonder what a useful device like the "minisec" would be without it being straddled to a crippled-by-design product like the iXXXX.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139506</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142746</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>TheRaven64</author>
	<datestamp>1266237900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> I have yet to see one of my drives <b>unexpectedly</b> fail.</p></div><p>Same here.  Mind you, I expect my drives to fail every 12-18 months...</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have yet to see one of my drives unexpectedly fail.Same here .
Mind you , I expect my drives to fail every 12-18 months.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> I have yet to see one of my drives unexpectedly fail.Same here.
Mind you, I expect my drives to fail every 12-18 months...
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139254</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139506</id>
	<title>Makes me think of Arthur Clarke.</title>
	<author>jcr</author>
	<datestamp>1266158640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In <i>Imperial Earth</i>, he mentions a device called a "minisec", which has enough storage to retain anything someone cares to store in their whole lifetime.  I wonder what it would mean to have something like an iPad with couple petabytes of capacity?</p><p>-jcr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Imperial Earth , he mentions a device called a " minisec " , which has enough storage to retain anything someone cares to store in their whole lifetime .
I wonder what it would mean to have something like an iPad with couple petabytes of capacity ? -jcr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Imperial Earth, he mentions a device called a "minisec", which has enough storage to retain anything someone cares to store in their whole lifetime.
I wonder what it would mean to have something like an iPad with couple petabytes of capacity?-jcr</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139728</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266160320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It would be nice to know which ones you used, because usually, the more you pay for it, the more reliable it will be.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It would be nice to know which ones you used , because usually , the more you pay for it , the more reliable it will be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It would be nice to know which ones you used, because usually, the more you pay for it, the more reliable it will be.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139330</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31144154</id>
	<title>Re:Impressive,but what is this phrase "postage sta</title>
	<author>Software Geek</author>
	<datestamp>1266250140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A "postage stamp" is a unit of area developed specificly for its unique marketing properties.  Although many readers assume it is approximately 5 square centimeters, it can actually be anything up to 2551 square centimeters. <a href="http://www.joh-enschede.com/?page=jea.news.overview&amp;cid=143" title="joh-enschede.com">http://www.joh-enschede.com/?page=jea.news.overview&amp;cid=143</a> [joh-enschede.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A " postage stamp " is a unit of area developed specificly for its unique marketing properties .
Although many readers assume it is approximately 5 square centimeters , it can actually be anything up to 2551 square centimeters .
http : //www.joh-enschede.com/ ? page = jea.news.overview&amp;cid = 143 [ joh-enschede.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A "postage stamp" is a unit of area developed specificly for its unique marketing properties.
Although many readers assume it is approximately 5 square centimeters, it can actually be anything up to 2551 square centimeters.
http://www.joh-enschede.com/?page=jea.news.overview&amp;cid=143 [joh-enschede.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140208</id>
	<title>And we've reached a point where....</title>
	<author>mark-t</author>
	<datestamp>1266164280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>The total weight of the money that you spend on end-user storage exceeds the weight of the storage device itself.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The total weight of the money that you spend on end-user storage exceeds the weight of the storage device itself .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The total weight of the money that you spend on end-user storage exceeds the weight of the storage device itself.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31141268</id>
	<title>Re:Gaming?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266175920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Wow, To me , your comment reeks of stupidity. It basically says " I cannot do anything at all to put this new technology to use myself, I hope someone else smarter than me can do that in such a way that my hobby is improved ". Get an education, or at least an imagination.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Wow , To me , your comment reeks of stupidity .
It basically says " I can not do anything at all to put this new technology to use myself , I hope someone else smarter than me can do that in such a way that my hobby is improved " .
Get an education , or at least an imagination .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Wow, To me , your comment reeks of stupidity.
It basically says " I cannot do anything at all to put this new technology to use myself, I hope someone else smarter than me can do that in such a way that my hobby is improved ".
Get an education, or at least an imagination.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31138926</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139816</id>
	<title>The future is here</title>
	<author>Arancaytar</author>
	<datestamp>1266160920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Stamp-sized chips storing the contents of multiple libraries, fully downloadable over short-range radio transfer in roughly an hour.</p><p>Listen to us complaining that we don't have flying cars yet.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Stamp-sized chips storing the contents of multiple libraries , fully downloadable over short-range radio transfer in roughly an hour.Listen to us complaining that we do n't have flying cars yet .
: P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stamp-sized chips storing the contents of multiple libraries, fully downloadable over short-range radio transfer in roughly an hour.Listen to us complaining that we don't have flying cars yet.
:P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31141660</id>
	<title>Still takes over an hour to fill.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266266460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The number one thing that I want, is the ability to read/write really fast.</p><p>And the other number one thing is: Don&rsquo;t <em>ever</em> die (or become significantly slower) after less then ten years of usage!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The number one thing that I want , is the ability to read/write really fast.And the other number one thing is : Don    t ever die ( or become significantly slower ) after less then ten years of usage !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The number one thing that I want, is the ability to read/write really fast.And the other number one thing is: Don’t ever die (or become significantly slower) after less then ten years of usage!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31151670</id>
	<title>Re:Make them affordable instead of larger</title>
	<author>glitch23</author>
	<datestamp>1266249480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>We always hear about SSD flash technology and how cool it is but we never seem to get it. SSDs are now more expensive than last year...So, what's the point of 1TB SSD when I can't even afford a 30GB one?</p></div><p>Bigger drives will cause the smaller drives to be discounted so that the bigger ones can squeeze into the market. Intel does this all the time with their CPUs. If you don't buy them when they are initially released you can get a particular CPU for cheap after waiting a year and letting other CPUs replace it as the top tier CPU available on the market. Traditional hard drives are more expensive when they are released because they have higher capacity which means the lower capacity drives have to drop in price so they can all share the market. We've seen this before so not sure why you are catching on by now. Obviously SSDs have a higher base price in the first place but that just means it will take longer before most people are comfortable with even buying the model that has been available for a year or so. Blu-ray players used to cost $1,000 (and some still do if you want certain features) and that base price was just too much for most people. Wait a little while.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>We always hear about SSD flash technology and how cool it is but we never seem to get it .
SSDs are now more expensive than last year...So , what 's the point of 1TB SSD when I ca n't even afford a 30GB one ? Bigger drives will cause the smaller drives to be discounted so that the bigger ones can squeeze into the market .
Intel does this all the time with their CPUs .
If you do n't buy them when they are initially released you can get a particular CPU for cheap after waiting a year and letting other CPUs replace it as the top tier CPU available on the market .
Traditional hard drives are more expensive when they are released because they have higher capacity which means the lower capacity drives have to drop in price so they can all share the market .
We 've seen this before so not sure why you are catching on by now .
Obviously SSDs have a higher base price in the first place but that just means it will take longer before most people are comfortable with even buying the model that has been available for a year or so .
Blu-ray players used to cost $ 1,000 ( and some still do if you want certain features ) and that base price was just too much for most people .
Wait a little while .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We always hear about SSD flash technology and how cool it is but we never seem to get it.
SSDs are now more expensive than last year...So, what's the point of 1TB SSD when I can't even afford a 30GB one?Bigger drives will cause the smaller drives to be discounted so that the bigger ones can squeeze into the market.
Intel does this all the time with their CPUs.
If you don't buy them when they are initially released you can get a particular CPU for cheap after waiting a year and letting other CPUs replace it as the top tier CPU available on the market.
Traditional hard drives are more expensive when they are released because they have higher capacity which means the lower capacity drives have to drop in price so they can all share the market.
We've seen this before so not sure why you are catching on by now.
Obviously SSDs have a higher base price in the first place but that just means it will take longer before most people are comfortable with even buying the model that has been available for a year or so.
Blu-ray players used to cost $1,000 (and some still do if you want certain features) and that base price was just too much for most people.
Wait a little while.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31139538</id>
	<title>End of the hard drive soon</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hard drive development just hasn't been keeping place
with flash memory. And either portable/netbook owner
would rather have flash memory, of course i bet these
terabyte flash drives are expensive right now, But could
we have terabyte+ flash in average computers within 5 years
seems likely now, and my laptop will be that mush faster for it.
<p>
---
</p><p>
<a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/blogs/Storage/feed.html" title="feeddistiller.com">Storage Feed</a> [feeddistiller.com] @ <a href="http://www.feeddistiller.com/" title="feeddistiller.com">Feed Distiller</a> [feeddistiller.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hard drive development just has n't been keeping place with flash memory .
And either portable/netbook owner would rather have flash memory , of course i bet these terabyte flash drives are expensive right now , But could we have terabyte + flash in average computers within 5 years seems likely now , and my laptop will be that mush faster for it .
--- Storage Feed [ feeddistiller.com ] @ Feed Distiller [ feeddistiller.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hard drive development just hasn't been keeping place
with flash memory.
And either portable/netbook owner
would rather have flash memory, of course i bet these
terabyte flash drives are expensive right now, But could
we have terabyte+ flash in average computers within 5 years
seems likely now, and my laptop will be that mush faster for it.
---

Storage Feed [feeddistiller.com] @ Feed Distiller [feeddistiller.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31163748</id>
	<title>Re:SSDs and Cost</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266334620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>De-Fragging is a crock. It's not an issue with the hard drive it's an issue with the File System. look at HFS and EXT file systems, no defrags necessary.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>De-Fragging is a crock .
It 's not an issue with the hard drive it 's an issue with the File System .
look at HFS and EXT file systems , no defrags necessary .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>De-Fragging is a crock.
It's not an issue with the hard drive it's an issue with the File System.
look at HFS and EXT file systems, no defrags necessary.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31141396</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31142298</id>
	<title>Re:Thank god.</title>
	<author>Khenke</author>
	<datestamp>1266231600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Is it just me that think 1TB at the size of  55,7 x 45,8 centimetres is nothing to brag about?
<a href="http://www.joh-enschede.com/?page=jea.news.overview&amp;cid=143" title="joh-enschede.com" rel="nofollow">Worlds largest postage stamp</a> [joh-enschede.com] <br>
But then again if it is the smallest stamp with 1x1 cm it is something to brag about.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it just me that think 1TB at the size of 55,7 x 45,8 centimetres is nothing to brag about ?
Worlds largest postage stamp [ joh-enschede.com ] But then again if it is the smallest stamp with 1x1 cm it is something to brag about .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it just me that think 1TB at the size of  55,7 x 45,8 centimetres is nothing to brag about?
Worlds largest postage stamp [joh-enschede.com] 
But then again if it is the smallest stamp with 1x1 cm it is something to brag about.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2254230.31140824</id>
	<title>Re:Who cares about size...</title>
	<author>DigiShaman</author>
	<datestamp>1266170160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not that I doubt you, but what make/model were you using?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not that I doubt you , but what make/model were you using ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not that I doubt you, but what make/model were you using?</sentencetext>
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