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	<title>Astronauts Having Trouble With Tranquility Module</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266141600000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Coldeagle writes <i>"Astronauts ran into trouble while trying to connect up the new Tranquility module onto the ISS.  A <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/space/2010-02-12-space-station-friday\_N.htm">critical insulating cover didn't fit quite right</a>: 'The fabric, multilayered cover is supposed to go between Tranquility and its observation deck, but the metal bars are not locking down properly because of interference from a hand rail or some other structure at the hatch.' One has to wonder if this is another imperial/metric snafu."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Coldeagle writes " Astronauts ran into trouble while trying to connect up the new Tranquility module onto the ISS .
A critical insulating cover did n't fit quite right : 'The fabric , multilayered cover is supposed to go between Tranquility and its observation deck , but the metal bars are not locking down properly because of interference from a hand rail or some other structure at the hatch .
' One has to wonder if this is another imperial/metric snafu .
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<sentencetext>Coldeagle writes "Astronauts ran into trouble while trying to connect up the new Tranquility module onto the ISS.
A critical insulating cover didn't fit quite right: 'The fabric, multilayered cover is supposed to go between Tranquility and its observation deck, but the metal bars are not locking down properly because of interference from a hand rail or some other structure at the hatch.
' One has to wonder if this is another imperial/metric snafu.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31140120</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Cmdrm</author>
	<datestamp>1266163500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb</p></div><p>Hmm, there might be lots of stock left on the shelf after the first week. 1lb roughly 500g or<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.5kg. It is actually 453g per pound, but who's counting anyways?</p></div>
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<tokenext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lbHmm , there might be lots of stock left on the shelf after the first week .
1lb roughly 500g or .5kg .
It is actually 453g per pound , but who 's counting anyways ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lbHmm, there might be lots of stock left on the shelf after the first week.
1lb roughly 500g or .5kg.
It is actually 453g per pound, but who's counting anyways?
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31142242</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266230940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.</p></div><p>it seems introducing metric would help increase grocery sales something awful...</p></div>
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<tokenext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.it seems introducing metric would help increase grocery sales something awful.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.it seems introducing metric would help increase grocery sales something awful...
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137908</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>0100010001010011</author>
	<datestamp>1266147900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's mainly educated people. There is a large percentage of our populous that wants creationism in schools and thinks that telling teens to abstain works.</p><p>When visiting other countries switching over to metric for time and distance takes all of a week to get into my head. It helps that all those countries are in Metric. So when I want to go from Delhi to Agra. I know it's X km and trains travel about X km/hr, so it'll take X hrs.</p><p>It's like Americans that point at manual transmissions and claim that takes too much thinking. After you do it for a while, it's just instinct. If every Weather forecast was given in C tomorrow, it would be 'chaos' for a week. Then everyone would figure it out. Packaged food is already sold with SI units. Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.</p><p>After a week in the new system, the only time I have to 'convert' is when I have to explain distances from the USA, but even then 100km/hr is a good speed. I know it takes 5 hours to get home. Home is 500 km from here, no converting the mi -&gt; km.<br>-<br>I work for a Fortune 50 company, ALL of our engineering has been metric since the late '90s. I bet most actual companies are.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's mainly educated people .
There is a large percentage of our populous that wants creationism in schools and thinks that telling teens to abstain works.When visiting other countries switching over to metric for time and distance takes all of a week to get into my head .
It helps that all those countries are in Metric .
So when I want to go from Delhi to Agra .
I know it 's X km and trains travel about X km/hr , so it 'll take X hrs.It 's like Americans that point at manual transmissions and claim that takes too much thinking .
After you do it for a while , it 's just instinct .
If every Weather forecast was given in C tomorrow , it would be 'chaos ' for a week .
Then everyone would figure it out .
Packaged food is already sold with SI units .
Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.After a week in the new system , the only time I have to 'convert ' is when I have to explain distances from the USA , but even then 100km/hr is a good speed .
I know it takes 5 hours to get home .
Home is 500 km from here , no converting the mi - &gt; km.-I work for a Fortune 50 company , ALL of our engineering has been metric since the late '90s .
I bet most actual companies are .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's mainly educated people.
There is a large percentage of our populous that wants creationism in schools and thinks that telling teens to abstain works.When visiting other countries switching over to metric for time and distance takes all of a week to get into my head.
It helps that all those countries are in Metric.
So when I want to go from Delhi to Agra.
I know it's X km and trains travel about X km/hr, so it'll take X hrs.It's like Americans that point at manual transmissions and claim that takes too much thinking.
After you do it for a while, it's just instinct.
If every Weather forecast was given in C tomorrow, it would be 'chaos' for a week.
Then everyone would figure it out.
Packaged food is already sold with SI units.
Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.After a week in the new system, the only time I have to 'convert' is when I have to explain distances from the USA, but even then 100km/hr is a good speed.
I know it takes 5 hours to get home.
Home is 500 km from here, no converting the mi -&gt; km.-I work for a Fortune 50 company, ALL of our engineering has been metric since the late '90s.
I bet most actual companies are.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139900</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Ryanrule</author>
	<datestamp>1266161640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"14 cm = penis"

you poor bastards.</htmltext>
<tokenext>" 14 cm = penis " you poor bastards .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"14 cm = penis"

you poor bastards.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31145820</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere (Viva Base 12)</title>
	<author>bill\_mcgonigle</author>
	<datestamp>1266257940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Ten is merely a happenstance of tetrapod evolution. A "smart" god would have given us 12 digits instead of 10.</i></p><p>Your god gave you 12 knuckles on the grasping fingers of each hand.  Egyptian and Babylonian children were taught this at an early age.  It seems his children are the idiots here.</p><p>Dozenal or bust.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ten is merely a happenstance of tetrapod evolution .
A " smart " god would have given us 12 digits instead of 10.Your god gave you 12 knuckles on the grasping fingers of each hand .
Egyptian and Babylonian children were taught this at an early age .
It seems his children are the idiots here.Dozenal or bust .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ten is merely a happenstance of tetrapod evolution.
A "smart" god would have given us 12 digits instead of 10.Your god gave you 12 knuckles on the grasping fingers of each hand.
Egyptian and Babylonian children were taught this at an early age.
It seems his children are the idiots here.Dozenal or bust.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31148784</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>swillden</author>
	<datestamp>1266229440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I say this as an european, who not that long ago switched from a national currency to an european one. Back then, many people were scared of the very same thing, but it really didn't take long for people to adapt.</p></div><p>Duh... that's because the Euro was calibrated against the US <i>Dollar</i> which, as everyone knows, is the true, natural and intuitive unit of currency.  I'm sure that as the Euro has drifted away from the dollar it's become harder to use.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I say this as an european , who not that long ago switched from a national currency to an european one .
Back then , many people were scared of the very same thing , but it really did n't take long for people to adapt.Duh... that 's because the Euro was calibrated against the US Dollar which , as everyone knows , is the true , natural and intuitive unit of currency .
I 'm sure that as the Euro has drifted away from the dollar it 's become harder to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I say this as an european, who not that long ago switched from a national currency to an european one.
Back then, many people were scared of the very same thing, but it really didn't take long for people to adapt.Duh... that's because the Euro was calibrated against the US Dollar which, as everyone knows, is the true, natural and intuitive unit of currency.
I'm sure that as the Euro has drifted away from the dollar it's become harder to use.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137856</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266147540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh well, re-adjusting your intuition to new units of measure isn't nearly as hard as it seems at first, before you actually have to do it. I say this as an european, who not that long ago switched from a national currency to an european one. Back then, many people were scared of the very same thing, but it really didn't take long for people to adapt. I guess it would be pretty much the same for any physical unit relevant for people's everyday lives.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh well , re-adjusting your intuition to new units of measure is n't nearly as hard as it seems at first , before you actually have to do it .
I say this as an european , who not that long ago switched from a national currency to an european one .
Back then , many people were scared of the very same thing , but it really did n't take long for people to adapt .
I guess it would be pretty much the same for any physical unit relevant for people 's everyday lives .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh well, re-adjusting your intuition to new units of measure isn't nearly as hard as it seems at first, before you actually have to do it.
I say this as an european, who not that long ago switched from a national currency to an european one.
Back then, many people were scared of the very same thing, but it really didn't take long for people to adapt.
I guess it would be pretty much the same for any physical unit relevant for people's everyday lives.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31138086</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266149220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Perhaps it's a THIRD WORLD problem...<br>The more third worlders in your country, the more of a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY it becomes, i.e. a hellhole, where nothing works.</p><p>Anybody care to refute this with FACTS rather than liberal wishful thinking?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps it 's a THIRD WORLD problem...The more third worlders in your country , the more of a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY it becomes , i.e .
a hellhole , where nothing works.Anybody care to refute this with FACTS rather than liberal wishful thinking ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps it's a THIRD WORLD problem...The more third worlders in your country, the more of a THIRD WORLD COUNTRY it becomes, i.e.
a hellhole, where nothing works.Anybody care to refute this with FACTS rather than liberal wishful thinking?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31138062</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266149040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That is pretty much how it is in the UK. We are effectively a "dual" nation, however we are a Metric nation when it comes to new implementations. Milk can be bought in Pints, however it has to be primarily labelled in Litres. We buy pints of Beer, Petrol is sold in Litres, Sugar/Flour etc is sold in Grams/KG's. Products are measured in mm/m, but almost anything on the road is done in Yards and Miles. Temperature is all listed as Celsius, but almost every weather broadcast translates that into Fahrenheit also. Our currency is pretty much metric to, working in 1's 2's 5's 10s and 100's. We have no quarter of a &pound; like you have with the $.</p><p>The only possible benefit to the Imperial systems is it's workings on numbers divisible by 2, 3 and 4. You can half it, third it and quarter it easily - great when people worked with small numbers all the time. Otherwise, Metric systems are fantastic - its far easier to work in 10s/100s and to add/remove 0's quickly and easily when the numbers get bigger.</p><p>Personally, I doubt in my lifetime i'll see the Pint disappear as it's too much of a tradition; both in Beer and Milk. The roads will no doubt stay the same for a long time through cost of sign replacement. Seems quite difficult to see us moving from the status quo we are in at the moment where things are all officially Metric, but the Imperial system is digging in it's heels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That is pretty much how it is in the UK .
We are effectively a " dual " nation , however we are a Metric nation when it comes to new implementations .
Milk can be bought in Pints , however it has to be primarily labelled in Litres .
We buy pints of Beer , Petrol is sold in Litres , Sugar/Flour etc is sold in Grams/KG 's .
Products are measured in mm/m , but almost anything on the road is done in Yards and Miles .
Temperature is all listed as Celsius , but almost every weather broadcast translates that into Fahrenheit also .
Our currency is pretty much metric to , working in 1 's 2 's 5 's 10s and 100 's .
We have no quarter of a   like you have with the $ .The only possible benefit to the Imperial systems is it 's workings on numbers divisible by 2 , 3 and 4 .
You can half it , third it and quarter it easily - great when people worked with small numbers all the time .
Otherwise , Metric systems are fantastic - its far easier to work in 10s/100s and to add/remove 0 's quickly and easily when the numbers get bigger.Personally , I doubt in my lifetime i 'll see the Pint disappear as it 's too much of a tradition ; both in Beer and Milk .
The roads will no doubt stay the same for a long time through cost of sign replacement .
Seems quite difficult to see us moving from the status quo we are in at the moment where things are all officially Metric , but the Imperial system is digging in it 's heels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That is pretty much how it is in the UK.
We are effectively a "dual" nation, however we are a Metric nation when it comes to new implementations.
Milk can be bought in Pints, however it has to be primarily labelled in Litres.
We buy pints of Beer, Petrol is sold in Litres, Sugar/Flour etc is sold in Grams/KG's.
Products are measured in mm/m, but almost anything on the road is done in Yards and Miles.
Temperature is all listed as Celsius, but almost every weather broadcast translates that into Fahrenheit also.
Our currency is pretty much metric to, working in 1's 2's 5's 10s and 100's.
We have no quarter of a £ like you have with the $.The only possible benefit to the Imperial systems is it's workings on numbers divisible by 2, 3 and 4.
You can half it, third it and quarter it easily - great when people worked with small numbers all the time.
Otherwise, Metric systems are fantastic - its far easier to work in 10s/100s and to add/remove 0's quickly and easily when the numbers get bigger.Personally, I doubt in my lifetime i'll see the Pint disappear as it's too much of a tradition; both in Beer and Milk.
The roads will no doubt stay the same for a long time through cost of sign replacement.
Seems quite difficult to see us moving from the status quo we are in at the moment where things are all officially Metric, but the Imperial system is digging in it's heels.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137938</id>
	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266148140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>USA should get on with the times.</p></div><p>Sure thing buddy.</p><p>You go ahead and provide our government with a thorough and efficient plan on how to revamp our entire infrastructure from the ground up.<br>Make sure it can be done in, say, about a year, tops.</p><p>Then we'll go ahead and fix it, just for you.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>USA should get on with the times.Sure thing buddy.You go ahead and provide our government with a thorough and efficient plan on how to revamp our entire infrastructure from the ground up.Make sure it can be done in , say , about a year , tops.Then we 'll go ahead and fix it , just for you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>USA should get on with the times.Sure thing buddy.You go ahead and provide our government with a thorough and efficient plan on how to revamp our entire infrastructure from the ground up.Make sure it can be done in, say, about a year, tops.Then we'll go ahead and fix it, just for you.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31138224</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Jazzbunny</author>
	<datestamp>1266150120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Here in Europe most countries changed their currency from something else to Euro lately. Learning new currency took some time but in the end the change from using one unit to another wasn't that painful, and it certainly didn't take decades to learn.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here in Europe most countries changed their currency from something else to Euro lately .
Learning new currency took some time but in the end the change from using one unit to another was n't that painful , and it certainly did n't take decades to learn .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here in Europe most countries changed their currency from something else to Euro lately.
Learning new currency took some time but in the end the change from using one unit to another wasn't that painful, and it certainly didn't take decades to learn.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137928</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1266148020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>the solution is to convert all signs to say both while that is being done over a period of 20 years to start with 5 year olds and only each them metric units in school. by the time they are grown up they will be used to both. 50 years of doing that.  and everyone should be converted quite easily.</p><p>indoctrination starting with the young.  the dream of every religion.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the solution is to convert all signs to say both while that is being done over a period of 20 years to start with 5 year olds and only each them metric units in school .
by the time they are grown up they will be used to both .
50 years of doing that .
and everyone should be converted quite easily.indoctrination starting with the young .
the dream of every religion .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the solution is to convert all signs to say both while that is being done over a period of 20 years to start with 5 year olds and only each them metric units in school.
by the time they are grown up they will be used to both.
50 years of doing that.
and everyone should be converted quite easily.indoctrination starting with the young.
the dream of every religion.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139494</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1266158520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd be fine if we picked one or the other and stuck with it. My biggest problems are the interactions between the two systems.</p><p>The other day, I couldn't get the damned oil pan drain plug out of my Chrysler car. Why? It's a Chrysler car, build in the Americas (well, Mexico, close enough), but the damned drain plug is a *metric* size. (Size 13... 13mm? I guess?)</p><p>I had to borrow a wrench for it... in a million years, I'd never guess Chrysler would use a metric size. (In retrospect, I'm guessing they standardized this so the vast number of oil changes places don't have to constantly change their tools.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd be fine if we picked one or the other and stuck with it .
My biggest problems are the interactions between the two systems.The other day , I could n't get the damned oil pan drain plug out of my Chrysler car .
Why ? It 's a Chrysler car , build in the Americas ( well , Mexico , close enough ) , but the damned drain plug is a * metric * size .
( Size 13... 13mm ? I guess ?
) I had to borrow a wrench for it... in a million years , I 'd never guess Chrysler would use a metric size .
( In retrospect , I 'm guessing they standardized this so the vast number of oil changes places do n't have to constantly change their tools .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd be fine if we picked one or the other and stuck with it.
My biggest problems are the interactions between the two systems.The other day, I couldn't get the damned oil pan drain plug out of my Chrysler car.
Why? It's a Chrysler car, build in the Americas (well, Mexico, close enough), but the damned drain plug is a *metric* size.
(Size 13... 13mm? I guess?
)I had to borrow a wrench for it... in a million years, I'd never guess Chrysler would use a metric size.
(In retrospect, I'm guessing they standardized this so the vast number of oil changes places don't have to constantly change their tools.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31140472</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>stumblingblock</author>
	<datestamp>1266166800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have often though of how unfortunate were are to live in the transition from a smoking to a nonsmoking society. Lots of friction. Another example is the Monty Python skit about England switching over from driving on the left to driving on the right. To ease the transition, the changeover would be done gradually.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have often though of how unfortunate were are to live in the transition from a smoking to a nonsmoking society .
Lots of friction .
Another example is the Monty Python skit about England switching over from driving on the left to driving on the right .
To ease the transition , the changeover would be done gradually .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have often though of how unfortunate were are to live in the transition from a smoking to a nonsmoking society.
Lots of friction.
Another example is the Monty Python skit about England switching over from driving on the left to driving on the right.
To ease the transition, the changeover would be done gradually.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31142106</id>
	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>SharpFang</author>
	<datestamp>1266229140000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Say what you want, this winter is twice as cold as the previous one.</p><p>(...now twist your head around this.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Say what you want , this winter is twice as cold as the previous one .
( ...now twist your head around this .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Say what you want, this winter is twice as cold as the previous one.
(...now twist your head around this.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139314</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why, in every story, does someone have to make a post referencing xkcd?  I've been there, it's a fun site... but seriously, quit sucking the dude's dick.</p><p>Captcha: marble... quit sucking those too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why , in every story , does someone have to make a post referencing xkcd ?
I 've been there , it 's a fun site... but seriously , quit sucking the dude 's dick.Captcha : marble... quit sucking those too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why, in every story, does someone have to make a post referencing xkcd?
I've been there, it's a fun site... but seriously, quit sucking the dude's dick.Captcha: marble... quit sucking those too.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31138802</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>HiThere</author>
	<datestamp>1266154020000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>One could make an argument on a base twelve measure system...but then everyone would need to learn a new set of multiplication tables.</p><p>Still...it would have advantages.  But you'll never convince everyone to change the way they count.  You'd need to have started back in Babylon, and convince them that base 60 was too complicated to catch one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>One could make an argument on a base twelve measure system...but then everyone would need to learn a new set of multiplication tables.Still...it would have advantages .
But you 'll never convince everyone to change the way they count .
You 'd need to have started back in Babylon , and convince them that base 60 was too complicated to catch one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One could make an argument on a base twelve measure system...but then everyone would need to learn a new set of multiplication tables.Still...it would have advantages.
But you'll never convince everyone to change the way they count.
You'd need to have started back in Babylon, and convince them that base 60 was too complicated to catch one.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>kevingolding2001</author>
	<datestamp>1266249960000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.</p></div><p>
2 kg is about 4 and a half pounds, so there are bound to be a few 'surprises' at the end of that first week.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb .
2 kg is about 4 and a half pounds , so there are bound to be a few 'surprises ' at the end of that first week .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.
2 kg is about 4 and a half pounds, so there are bound to be a few 'surprises' at the end of that first week.
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>camperdave</author>
	<datestamp>1266171240000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>... or buying ammo for your nine.</htmltext>
<tokenext>... or buying ammo for your nine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... or buying ammo for your nine.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>CrimsonAvenger</author>
	<datestamp>1266152160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.</p></div></blockquote><p>Well, if I wanted a pound, I think I'd order 0.5 kg rather than 2 kg.  Why buy four and a half pounds of meat when you need one?
</p><p>Oddly enough, I've never had any problem dealing with either SI or Imperial.  Contrary to rumour, there's no real ease of use difference - it's not like we do our math with sliderules anymore, and my calculator can divide by 12 (or 5280 or whatever) as easily as it can by 10.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.Well , if I wanted a pound , I think I 'd order 0.5 kg rather than 2 kg .
Why buy four and a half pounds of meat when you need one ?
Oddly enough , I 've never had any problem dealing with either SI or Imperial .
Contrary to rumour , there 's no real ease of use difference - it 's not like we do our math with sliderules anymore , and my calculator can divide by 12 ( or 5280 or whatever ) as easily as it can by 10 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.Well, if I wanted a pound, I think I'd order 0.5 kg rather than 2 kg.
Why buy four and a half pounds of meat when you need one?
Oddly enough, I've never had any problem dealing with either SI or Imperial.
Contrary to rumour, there's no real ease of use difference - it's not like we do our math with sliderules anymore, and my calculator can divide by 12 (or 5280 or whatever) as easily as it can by 10.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31140630</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Vellmont</author>
	<datestamp>1266168000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i><br>The other day, I couldn't get the damned oil pan drain plug out of my Chrysler car. Why? It's a Chrysler car, build in the Americas (well, Mexico, close enough), but the damned drain plug is a *metric* size. (Size 13... 13mm? I guess?)<br></i><br>Where have you been?  "American" cars have had metric parts for the last 20 years or so.  I couldn't say which is more common, but both cars I've had in the last 15 years have been largely metric.  One was a Chrysler product, the other a Chevy.<br><i><br>(In retrospect, I'm guessing they standardized this so the vast number of oil changes places don't have to constantly change their tools.)<br></i><br>They standardized it so they can sell the same car in Europe, or at least change parts throughout their different models.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The other day , I could n't get the damned oil pan drain plug out of my Chrysler car .
Why ? It 's a Chrysler car , build in the Americas ( well , Mexico , close enough ) , but the damned drain plug is a * metric * size .
( Size 13... 13mm ? I guess ?
) Where have you been ?
" American " cars have had metric parts for the last 20 years or so .
I could n't say which is more common , but both cars I 've had in the last 15 years have been largely metric .
One was a Chrysler product , the other a Chevy .
( In retrospect , I 'm guessing they standardized this so the vast number of oil changes places do n't have to constantly change their tools .
) They standardized it so they can sell the same car in Europe , or at least change parts throughout their different models .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The other day, I couldn't get the damned oil pan drain plug out of my Chrysler car.
Why? It's a Chrysler car, build in the Americas (well, Mexico, close enough), but the damned drain plug is a *metric* size.
(Size 13... 13mm? I guess?
)Where have you been?
"American" cars have had metric parts for the last 20 years or so.
I couldn't say which is more common, but both cars I've had in the last 15 years have been largely metric.
One was a Chrysler product, the other a Chevy.
(In retrospect, I'm guessing they standardized this so the vast number of oil changes places don't have to constantly change their tools.
)They standardized it so they can sell the same car in Europe, or at least change parts throughout their different models.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Think of The Children</title>
	<author>PPH</author>
	<datestamp>1266148200000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>You are the lost generation. If you can't figure out how long a kilometer is, who cares? Think of the children. Or would you rather have them say, "Well, I have no sense of how long a kilometer is" and hope your grandchildren will straighten it all out?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You are the lost generation .
If you ca n't figure out how long a kilometer is , who cares ?
Think of the children .
Or would you rather have them say , " Well , I have no sense of how long a kilometer is " and hope your grandchildren will straighten it all out ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You are the lost generation.
If you can't figure out how long a kilometer is, who cares?
Think of the children.
Or would you rather have them say, "Well, I have no sense of how long a kilometer is" and hope your grandchildren will straighten it all out?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Da Cheez</author>
	<datestamp>1266152580000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>I find it amusing that xkcd bothers to define -40 degrees Celsius as, "Spit goes 'clink.'"  I know it's trying to offer intuitive ways to make the switch without having to reference Imperial units, but -40C and -40F are exactly the same.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I find it amusing that xkcd bothers to define -40 degrees Celsius as , " Spit goes 'clink .
' " I know it 's trying to offer intuitive ways to make the switch without having to reference Imperial units , but -40C and -40F are exactly the same .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I find it amusing that xkcd bothers to define -40 degrees Celsius as, "Spit goes 'clink.
'"  I know it's trying to offer intuitive ways to make the switch without having to reference Imperial units, but -40C and -40F are exactly the same.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Stormwatch</author>
	<datestamp>1266154080000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>...to order 2kg instead of 1lb.</p></div></blockquote><p>
Actually, 1 pound = aprox. 0.45 kg.</p></div>
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<tokenext>...to order 2kg instead of 1lb .
Actually , 1 pound = aprox .
0.45 kg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...to order 2kg instead of 1lb.
Actually, 1 pound = aprox.
0.45 kg.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139326</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266157440000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>&gt; I am an american, and I do believe the Imperial system is a lot easier to use.</p><p>Sorry, pal, but IMHO you're mistaken.</p><p>&gt; For me.</p><p>I still believe even for you it's not easier.</p><p>&gt; Because that's what I learned from day 1.</p><p>That means you're used to it, not that it's easier. What if you learned to drive first a truck? Would you not find a car easier?</p><p>&gt; Do I think it's better? No way. Do I think it should be changed to metric? Absolutely.</p><p>Then don't delay. If it's not a good thing, then don't adopt it -- but if it's a good thing, and you're not busy now, why not make the entire country use it?</p><p>&gt; But the fact that most people would have a very hard time with switch is why it hasn't happened.</p><p>No, it's because people believe they will have a hard time. That fear is the culprit of people's paralysis.</p><p>&gt; The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"... That way kids would be taught from the beginning, and regular people would have time to learn the new system...</p><p>Well, try to jump into the water: for some time, say, 5 hours -- on a weekend -- try to read some material on the internet, in English or otherwise, with metric units. I don't know why, but I strongly suspect your life won't end...</p><p>Just as an example, the McDonald's cups:</p><p>In USA:</p><p>12 fluid ounces (child)<br>16 fluid ounces (small)<br>21 fluid ounces (medium)<br>32 fluid ounces (large)</p><p>In Brazil:</p><p>300 ml (small - about 10 fl oz)<br>500 ml (medium - about 17 fl oz)<br>700 ml (large - about 24 fl oz)</p><p>Now, just think what is easier: 12, 16, 21 or 300, 500, 700?</p><p>Besides there's a lot of distorted reasoning. No one ever thinks about getting used to 500ml, or 30km or 2m... people think "Hey, let's see, 12 fl oz is 354.88 ml -- wow, this metric thing is way too complicated!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; I am an american , and I do believe the Imperial system is a lot easier to use.Sorry , pal , but IMHO you 're mistaken. &gt; For me.I still believe even for you it 's not easier. &gt; Because that 's what I learned from day 1.That means you 're used to it , not that it 's easier .
What if you learned to drive first a truck ?
Would you not find a car easier ? &gt; Do I think it 's better ?
No way .
Do I think it should be changed to metric ?
Absolutely.Then do n't delay .
If it 's not a good thing , then do n't adopt it -- but if it 's a good thing , and you 're not busy now , why not make the entire country use it ? &gt; But the fact that most people would have a very hard time with switch is why it has n't happened.No , it 's because people believe they will have a hard time .
That fear is the culprit of people 's paralysis. &gt; The only way it would be able to happen is with a ( possibly multiple ) decade long " dual usage " ... That way kids would be taught from the beginning , and regular people would have time to learn the new system...Well , try to jump into the water : for some time , say , 5 hours -- on a weekend -- try to read some material on the internet , in English or otherwise , with metric units .
I do n't know why , but I strongly suspect your life wo n't end...Just as an example , the McDonald 's cups : In USA : 12 fluid ounces ( child ) 16 fluid ounces ( small ) 21 fluid ounces ( medium ) 32 fluid ounces ( large ) In Brazil : 300 ml ( small - about 10 fl oz ) 500 ml ( medium - about 17 fl oz ) 700 ml ( large - about 24 fl oz ) Now , just think what is easier : 12 , 16 , 21 or 300 , 500 , 700 ? Besides there 's a lot of distorted reasoning .
No one ever thinks about getting used to 500ml , or 30km or 2m... people think " Hey , let 's see , 12 fl oz is 354.88 ml -- wow , this metric thing is way too complicated !
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<sentencetext>&gt; I am an american, and I do believe the Imperial system is a lot easier to use.Sorry, pal, but IMHO you're mistaken.&gt; For me.I still believe even for you it's not easier.&gt; Because that's what I learned from day 1.That means you're used to it, not that it's easier.
What if you learned to drive first a truck?
Would you not find a car easier?&gt; Do I think it's better?
No way.
Do I think it should be changed to metric?
Absolutely.Then don't delay.
If it's not a good thing, then don't adopt it -- but if it's a good thing, and you're not busy now, why not make the entire country use it?&gt; But the fact that most people would have a very hard time with switch is why it hasn't happened.No, it's because people believe they will have a hard time.
That fear is the culprit of people's paralysis.&gt; The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"... That way kids would be taught from the beginning, and regular people would have time to learn the new system...Well, try to jump into the water: for some time, say, 5 hours -- on a weekend -- try to read some material on the internet, in English or otherwise, with metric units.
I don't know why, but I strongly suspect your life won't end...Just as an example, the McDonald's cups:In USA:12 fluid ounces (child)16 fluid ounces (small)21 fluid ounces (medium)32 fluid ounces (large)In Brazil:300 ml (small - about 10 fl oz)500 ml (medium - about 17 fl oz)700 ml (large - about 24 fl oz)Now, just think what is easier: 12, 16, 21 or 300, 500, 700?Besides there's a lot of distorted reasoning.
No one ever thinks about getting used to 500ml, or 30km or 2m... people think "Hey, let's see, 12 fl oz is 354.88 ml -- wow, this metric thing is way too complicated!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31144260</id>
	<title>The longer you wait...</title>
	<author>sjbe</author>
	<datestamp>1266250860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It's not a matter of just "getting on with the times". Yes, the SI system is easier to work with, but there are immense costs in converting every system in use to another system.</p></div><p>True, but every other country in the world has already paid those costs.  The metric system isn't terribly old.  The longer the US waits the more expensive and difficult it becomes to switch.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.</p></div><p>Most of those bits of software are already capable of metric (or easily made so) and generating new tables is trivial.  Most engineering companies are quite capable of working with metric.  Any company that does business outside the US (which is a LOT of them) already deals in metric whether they want to or not.  It's a global economy and the US is intentionally incurring an unnecessary cost and burden on its own businesses.</p><p>Yes, the conversion would have some significant difficulties but the real difficulty is getting people to just accept metric as the standard.  The biggest obstacle is simply people (older people especially) not wanting to bother - not the financial cost.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.</p></div><p>As a percent of gdp the US <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_States\_public\_debt" title="wikipedia.org">has been in more debt</a> [wikipedia.org] as recently as 65 years ago.  The conversion costs of going to metric, expensive as it would be, would be tiny in comparison.  You could pay for the whole thing with a relatively modest cut in your choice of Defense, Social Security or Medicare.  Of course good luck getting that done...</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Consider it from the other side: why doesn't the world convert to Impirial Units? I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.</p></div><p>Because the other 95\% of the world's population has grasped the concept that using standard units saves money in the long run and makes it easier to communicate as well.  Are you seriously arguing that 95\% of the world's population should switch to a measurement system that even you admit is more difficult to work with?  That's a bizarre way to convince someone...</p></div>
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<tokenext>It 's not a matter of just " getting on with the times " .
Yes , the SI system is easier to work with , but there are immense costs in converting every system in use to another system.True , but every other country in the world has already paid those costs .
The metric system is n't terribly old .
The longer the US waits the more expensive and difficult it becomes to switch.You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.Most of those bits of software are already capable of metric ( or easily made so ) and generating new tables is trivial .
Most engineering companies are quite capable of working with metric .
Any company that does business outside the US ( which is a LOT of them ) already deals in metric whether they want to or not .
It 's a global economy and the US is intentionally incurring an unnecessary cost and burden on its own businesses.Yes , the conversion would have some significant difficulties but the real difficulty is getting people to just accept metric as the standard .
The biggest obstacle is simply people ( older people especially ) not wanting to bother - not the financial cost.When my government is over $ 12,300,000,000,000 in debt , " getting on with the times " is the last thing on which I 'd want it to waste more money.As a percent of gdp the US has been in more debt [ wikipedia.org ] as recently as 65 years ago .
The conversion costs of going to metric , expensive as it would be , would be tiny in comparison .
You could pay for the whole thing with a relatively modest cut in your choice of Defense , Social Security or Medicare .
Of course good luck getting that done...Consider it from the other side : why does n't the world convert to Impirial Units ?
I 'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.Because the other 95 \ % of the world 's population has grasped the concept that using standard units saves money in the long run and makes it easier to communicate as well .
Are you seriously arguing that 95 \ % of the world 's population should switch to a measurement system that even you admit is more difficult to work with ?
That 's a bizarre way to convince someone.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's not a matter of just "getting on with the times".
Yes, the SI system is easier to work with, but there are immense costs in converting every system in use to another system.True, but every other country in the world has already paid those costs.
The metric system isn't terribly old.
The longer the US waits the more expensive and difficult it becomes to switch.You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.Most of those bits of software are already capable of metric (or easily made so) and generating new tables is trivial.
Most engineering companies are quite capable of working with metric.
Any company that does business outside the US (which is a LOT of them) already deals in metric whether they want to or not.
It's a global economy and the US is intentionally incurring an unnecessary cost and burden on its own businesses.Yes, the conversion would have some significant difficulties but the real difficulty is getting people to just accept metric as the standard.
The biggest obstacle is simply people (older people especially) not wanting to bother - not the financial cost.When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.As a percent of gdp the US has been in more debt [wikipedia.org] as recently as 65 years ago.
The conversion costs of going to metric, expensive as it would be, would be tiny in comparison.
You could pay for the whole thing with a relatively modest cut in your choice of Defense, Social Security or Medicare.
Of course good luck getting that done...Consider it from the other side: why doesn't the world convert to Impirial Units?
I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.Because the other 95\% of the world's population has grasped the concept that using standard units saves money in the long run and makes it easier to communicate as well.
Are you seriously arguing that 95\% of the world's population should switch to a measurement system that even you admit is more difficult to work with?
That's a bizarre way to convince someone...
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266240480000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>&gt; Well, no, that wouldn't work on its own. If you think about it, we already have a dual system. Weights and measures of all packaged foods and beverages are printed in both Imperial and metric units. The problem is that the amounts are chosen based on convenience. So "a 12-ounce can of Coke" makes sense, but "354 mL of Coke" sounds off. Similarly, if you went to a butcher and wanted to ask for the same amount of bacon that you get when you buy it prepackaged at the supermarket, 0.454 kilos sounds funny, but a pound sounds about right.</p><p>Over here you don't buy 0.5 kg, because you can't easily weight in advance a steak. You have to cut it and \_then\_ weight it. So one gets e.g. 0.392kg, 0.787kg etc. of meat. Is it so where you live? People can cut a steak of precisely at 1 pound?</p><p>Also in some places certain foods are prohibitively expensive (like meat in Japan), so one buys a precise amount -- like 2.5 pounds instead of 2 or 3. Same thing in metric: people will go for 1.2kg, for example. 2.5 or 1.2: see, no difference in practice.</p><p>&gt; It would be possible to make it so that the metric units were more favorable, but you really do have to pick one and stick with it. If the soft drink makers switched to 500 mL bottles, for example, it would make more sense to go buy a half-liter of Coke than to say "a 16.9 ounce bottle." Similarly, they could package bacon in half-kilo packages. But as it stands, our culture favors the Imperial units, so when the soft drink companies wanted to come out with a larger-sized decanter, they chose 20-ounce bottles instead of half-liters. A 591-mL bottle sounds appealing to no one.</p><p>That what you say, as I understand it, amounts to: "metric is hard because we want to make our braindamaged unit system look easier". To what end? Just for the sake of no change? Or to pester the rest of the world with papers and graphs in unreadable units?</p><p><b>Come to think, along with translating services, could Google do a demoronizer to get imperial units automatically converted to SI?</b></p><p>That would be really helpful.</p><p>&gt; But as it stands, our culture favors the Imperial units</p><p>There is little point in proving metric better, if people wants to do things the wrong way. If you can't organize yourselves and act together to get to a better place, all advice in the world will not help you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Well , no , that would n't work on its own .
If you think about it , we already have a dual system .
Weights and measures of all packaged foods and beverages are printed in both Imperial and metric units .
The problem is that the amounts are chosen based on convenience .
So " a 12-ounce can of Coke " makes sense , but " 354 mL of Coke " sounds off .
Similarly , if you went to a butcher and wanted to ask for the same amount of bacon that you get when you buy it prepackaged at the supermarket , 0.454 kilos sounds funny , but a pound sounds about right.Over here you do n't buy 0.5 kg , because you ca n't easily weight in advance a steak .
You have to cut it and \ _then \ _ weight it .
So one gets e.g .
0.392kg , 0.787kg etc .
of meat .
Is it so where you live ?
People can cut a steak of precisely at 1 pound ? Also in some places certain foods are prohibitively expensive ( like meat in Japan ) , so one buys a precise amount -- like 2.5 pounds instead of 2 or 3 .
Same thing in metric : people will go for 1.2kg , for example .
2.5 or 1.2 : see , no difference in practice. &gt; It would be possible to make it so that the metric units were more favorable , but you really do have to pick one and stick with it .
If the soft drink makers switched to 500 mL bottles , for example , it would make more sense to go buy a half-liter of Coke than to say " a 16.9 ounce bottle .
" Similarly , they could package bacon in half-kilo packages .
But as it stands , our culture favors the Imperial units , so when the soft drink companies wanted to come out with a larger-sized decanter , they chose 20-ounce bottles instead of half-liters .
A 591-mL bottle sounds appealing to no one.That what you say , as I understand it , amounts to : " metric is hard because we want to make our braindamaged unit system look easier " .
To what end ?
Just for the sake of no change ?
Or to pester the rest of the world with papers and graphs in unreadable units ? Come to think , along with translating services , could Google do a demoronizer to get imperial units automatically converted to SI ? That would be really helpful. &gt; But as it stands , our culture favors the Imperial unitsThere is little point in proving metric better , if people wants to do things the wrong way .
If you ca n't organize yourselves and act together to get to a better place , all advice in the world will not help you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Well, no, that wouldn't work on its own.
If you think about it, we already have a dual system.
Weights and measures of all packaged foods and beverages are printed in both Imperial and metric units.
The problem is that the amounts are chosen based on convenience.
So "a 12-ounce can of Coke" makes sense, but "354 mL of Coke" sounds off.
Similarly, if you went to a butcher and wanted to ask for the same amount of bacon that you get when you buy it prepackaged at the supermarket, 0.454 kilos sounds funny, but a pound sounds about right.Over here you don't buy 0.5 kg, because you can't easily weight in advance a steak.
You have to cut it and \_then\_ weight it.
So one gets e.g.
0.392kg, 0.787kg etc.
of meat.
Is it so where you live?
People can cut a steak of precisely at 1 pound?Also in some places certain foods are prohibitively expensive (like meat in Japan), so one buys a precise amount -- like 2.5 pounds instead of 2 or 3.
Same thing in metric: people will go for 1.2kg, for example.
2.5 or 1.2: see, no difference in practice.&gt; It would be possible to make it so that the metric units were more favorable, but you really do have to pick one and stick with it.
If the soft drink makers switched to 500 mL bottles, for example, it would make more sense to go buy a half-liter of Coke than to say "a 16.9 ounce bottle.
" Similarly, they could package bacon in half-kilo packages.
But as it stands, our culture favors the Imperial units, so when the soft drink companies wanted to come out with a larger-sized decanter, they chose 20-ounce bottles instead of half-liters.
A 591-mL bottle sounds appealing to no one.That what you say, as I understand it, amounts to: "metric is hard because we want to make our braindamaged unit system look easier".
To what end?
Just for the sake of no change?
Or to pester the rest of the world with papers and graphs in unreadable units?Come to think, along with translating services, could Google do a demoronizer to get imperial units automatically converted to SI?That would be really helpful.&gt; But as it stands, our culture favors the Imperial unitsThere is little point in proving metric better, if people wants to do things the wrong way.
If you can't organize yourselves and act together to get to a better place, all advice in the world will not help you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31142808</id>
	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>Ibn al-Hazardous</author>
	<datestamp>1266238560000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are <strong>not</strong> in metric.  It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there; it's a matter rewriting software, referring to old designs, and many other factors.  When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.</p></div><p>Bullshit. That software is already sold outside the US, and thus it already supports SI units (unless it's written by the boss' nephew, which is one more reason to throw it out).</p><p>And really, do you think the conversion snafus don't cost anything?</p></div>
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<tokenext>You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric .
It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there ; it 's a matter rewriting software , referring to old designs , and many other factors .
When my government is over $ 12,300,000,000,000 in debt , " getting on with the times " is the last thing on which I 'd want it to waste more money.Bullshit .
That software is already sold outside the US , and thus it already supports SI units ( unless it 's written by the boss ' nephew , which is one more reason to throw it out ) .And really , do you think the conversion snafus do n't cost anything ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.
It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there; it's a matter rewriting software, referring to old designs, and many other factors.
When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.Bullshit.
That software is already sold outside the US, and thus it already supports SI units (unless it's written by the boss' nephew, which is one more reason to throw it out).And really, do you think the conversion snafus don't cost anything?
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>dryeo</author>
	<datestamp>1266175620000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>We (Canada) converted about 35 years ago. Lumber is still measured in inches and feet. At the grocery store the prices on signs are per pound with the metric in small print, potatoes etc come in 10 lb bags. Distances and elevations are usually referred to in feet and miles and I have no idea how many cm tall I am or how many kilos I weigh.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We ( Canada ) converted about 35 years ago .
Lumber is still measured in inches and feet .
At the grocery store the prices on signs are per pound with the metric in small print , potatoes etc come in 10 lb bags .
Distances and elevations are usually referred to in feet and miles and I have no idea how many cm tall I am or how many kilos I weigh .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We (Canada) converted about 35 years ago.
Lumber is still measured in inches and feet.
At the grocery store the prices on signs are per pound with the metric in small print, potatoes etc come in 10 lb bags.
Distances and elevations are usually referred to in feet and miles and I have no idea how many cm tall I am or how many kilos I weigh.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>DarkofPeace</author>
	<datestamp>1266156000000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>but the more expensive drugs are sold by the gram or kilo.</htmltext>
<tokenext>but the more expensive drugs are sold by the gram or kilo .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but the more expensive drugs are sold by the gram or kilo.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>djh2400</author>
	<datestamp>1266150120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Metric is better than Fahrenheit, and USA should get on with the times.</p></div><p>It's not a matter of just "getting on with the times".  Yes, the SI system is easier to work with, but there are immense costs in converting every system in use to another system.  The government would have to replace all speed limit and mile marker signs across the country, roads would not line up with measured distances, as well as many other things.  You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are <strong>not</strong> in metric.  It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there; it's a matter rewriting software, referring to old designs, and many other factors.  When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>But Fahrenheit is more accurate. But Celsius can be just as accurate, if you take decimals into the play.</p></div><p>I disagree with using Celsius; having a temperature of 0 equate to something that is<nobr> <wbr></nobr>/not/ equal to 0 energy in a system is one reason why so many students (and adults) have such trouble in basic science classes.  Negative temperatures are Just a Bad Idea.  As I'm sure you've guessed by now, yes, I am in favor of measuring temperatures in Kelvin; it is absolute and its value proportionally reflects the amount of energy in the system.</p><p>Consider it from the other side: why doesn't the world convert to Impirial Units?  I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.</p></div>
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<tokenext>Metric is better than Fahrenheit , and USA should get on with the times.It 's not a matter of just " getting on with the times " .
Yes , the SI system is easier to work with , but there are immense costs in converting every system in use to another system .
The government would have to replace all speed limit and mile marker signs across the country , roads would not line up with measured distances , as well as many other things .
You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric .
It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there ; it 's a matter rewriting software , referring to old designs , and many other factors .
When my government is over $ 12,300,000,000,000 in debt , " getting on with the times " is the last thing on which I 'd want it to waste more money.But Fahrenheit is more accurate .
But Celsius can be just as accurate , if you take decimals into the play.I disagree with using Celsius ; having a temperature of 0 equate to something that is /not/ equal to 0 energy in a system is one reason why so many students ( and adults ) have such trouble in basic science classes .
Negative temperatures are Just a Bad Idea .
As I 'm sure you 've guessed by now , yes , I am in favor of measuring temperatures in Kelvin ; it is absolute and its value proportionally reflects the amount of energy in the system.Consider it from the other side : why does n't the world convert to Impirial Units ?
I 'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Metric is better than Fahrenheit, and USA should get on with the times.It's not a matter of just "getting on with the times".
Yes, the SI system is easier to work with, but there are immense costs in converting every system in use to another system.
The government would have to replace all speed limit and mile marker signs across the country, roads would not line up with measured distances, as well as many other things.
You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.
It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there; it's a matter rewriting software, referring to old designs, and many other factors.
When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.But Fahrenheit is more accurate.
But Celsius can be just as accurate, if you take decimals into the play.I disagree with using Celsius; having a temperature of 0 equate to something that is /not/ equal to 0 energy in a system is one reason why so many students (and adults) have such trouble in basic science classes.
Negative temperatures are Just a Bad Idea.
As I'm sure you've guessed by now, yes, I am in favor of measuring temperatures in Kelvin; it is absolute and its value proportionally reflects the amount of energy in the system.Consider it from the other side: why doesn't the world convert to Impirial Units?
I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>darthflo</author>
	<datestamp>1266151860000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.</p></div></blockquote><p>Are you sure this switch hasn't happened yet? All those obesity problems sure make it look like it did.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></div>
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<tokenext>take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.Are you sure this switch has n't happened yet ?
All those obesity problems sure make it look like it did .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.Are you sure this switch hasn't happened yet?
All those obesity problems sure make it look like it did.
;)
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	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>MrResistor</author>
	<datestamp>1266227040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The government would have to replace all speed limit and mile marker signs across the country, roads would not line up with measured distances, as well as many other things.  You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are <strong>not</strong> in metric.  It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there; it's a matter rewriting software, referring to old designs, and many other factors.  When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.</p></div><p>That sounds like a whole lot of jobs to me.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The government would have to replace all speed limit and mile marker signs across the country , roads would not line up with measured distances , as well as many other things .
You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric .
It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there ; it 's a matter rewriting software , referring to old designs , and many other factors .
When my government is over $ 12,300,000,000,000 in debt , " getting on with the times " is the last thing on which I 'd want it to waste more money.That sounds like a whole lot of jobs to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The government would have to replace all speed limit and mile marker signs across the country, roads would not line up with measured distances, as well as many other things.
You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.
It is not just a matter of using a few conversions here and there; it's a matter rewriting software, referring to old designs, and many other factors.
When my government is over $12,300,000,000,000 in debt, "getting on with the times" is the last thing on which I'd want it to waste more money.That sounds like a whole lot of jobs to me.
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>barzok</author>
	<datestamp>1266158340000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"</p></div></blockquote><p> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication\_in\_the\_United\_States" title="wikipedia.org">It was tried 30 years ago</a> [wikipedia.org] and some small-scale attempts are still in progress. The problem is that it's all small-scale so it won't really make inroads.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The only way it would be able to happen is with a ( possibly multiple ) decade long " dual usage " It was tried 30 years ago [ wikipedia.org ] and some small-scale attempts are still in progress .
The problem is that it 's all small-scale so it wo n't really make inroads .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage" It was tried 30 years ago [wikipedia.org] and some small-scale attempts are still in progress.
The problem is that it's all small-scale so it won't really make inroads.
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Blakey Rat</author>
	<datestamp>1266158760000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>When visiting other countries switching over to metric for time and distance takes all of a week to get into my head.</i></p><p>No countries use metric time.</p><p><i>Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.</i></p><p>And get four times as much as they wanted?</p><p>While I get the point of your post, you're not really demonstrating a good fundamental knowledge of metric here.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>When visiting other countries switching over to metric for time and distance takes all of a week to get into my head.No countries use metric time.Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.And get four times as much as they wanted ? While I get the point of your post , you 're not really demonstrating a good fundamental knowledge of metric here .
: )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>When visiting other countries switching over to metric for time and distance takes all of a week to get into my head.No countries use metric time.Grocery store patrons would take all of a week to need to order 2kg instead of 1lb.And get four times as much as they wanted?While I get the point of your post, you're not really demonstrating a good fundamental knowledge of metric here.
:)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>navyjeff</author>
	<datestamp>1266147300000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><a href="http://xkcd.com/526/" title="xkcd.com">Here's a handy guide to get an intuitive sense of metric measurements.</a> [xkcd.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Here 's a handy guide to get an intuitive sense of metric measurements .
[ xkcd.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Here's a handy guide to get an intuitive sense of metric measurements.
[xkcd.com]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>RealErmine</author>
	<datestamp>1266245760000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"</p></div><p>Finally I can market my line of centiyard rulers and kilofoot odometers!</p></div>
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<tokenext>The only way it would be able to happen is with a ( possibly multiple ) decade long " dual usage " Finally I can market my line of centiyard rulers and kilofoot odometers !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"Finally I can market my line of centiyard rulers and kilofoot odometers!
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	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266174120000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>the solution is to convert all signs</i> </p><p>It is not about the signs.  Go to a hardware store as your education appears to be lacking.  Read some building codes.  Try reading all of them.  Our tooling, engineering, codes tend to be imperial.  Calling something 1.27 cm that was 0.5 inches is not a solution.  Rather, it is converting that part or tool to the equivalent metric which is actually 12 mm (a far cry from 12.7 mm as far as tooling is concerned - try to use your metric hex wrenches on an imperial screw or vice versa).</p><p>There is a great deal of expense and I suspect education/signage is 5\% of the issue.  Also, we are bilingual as concerns scientific units of measurment.  The Europeans are not.  They tend to be bilingual in language.  Why is one looked down upon and the other exalted.  I hate to be cliche, but I do believe many Americans hate this country and do hate freedom.  Fact is, I can call shit whatever I want - that's what makes this country great and government-certified organic foods gay.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>the solution is to convert all signs It is not about the signs .
Go to a hardware store as your education appears to be lacking .
Read some building codes .
Try reading all of them .
Our tooling , engineering , codes tend to be imperial .
Calling something 1.27 cm that was 0.5 inches is not a solution .
Rather , it is converting that part or tool to the equivalent metric which is actually 12 mm ( a far cry from 12.7 mm as far as tooling is concerned - try to use your metric hex wrenches on an imperial screw or vice versa ) .There is a great deal of expense and I suspect education/signage is 5 \ % of the issue .
Also , we are bilingual as concerns scientific units of measurment .
The Europeans are not .
They tend to be bilingual in language .
Why is one looked down upon and the other exalted .
I hate to be cliche , but I do believe many Americans hate this country and do hate freedom .
Fact is , I can call shit whatever I want - that 's what makes this country great and government-certified organic foods gay .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>the solution is to convert all signs It is not about the signs.
Go to a hardware store as your education appears to be lacking.
Read some building codes.
Try reading all of them.
Our tooling, engineering, codes tend to be imperial.
Calling something 1.27 cm that was 0.5 inches is not a solution.
Rather, it is converting that part or tool to the equivalent metric which is actually 12 mm (a far cry from 12.7 mm as far as tooling is concerned - try to use your metric hex wrenches on an imperial screw or vice versa).There is a great deal of expense and I suspect education/signage is 5\% of the issue.
Also, we are bilingual as concerns scientific units of measurment.
The Europeans are not.
They tend to be bilingual in language.
Why is one looked down upon and the other exalted.
I hate to be cliche, but I do believe many Americans hate this country and do hate freedom.
Fact is, I can call shit whatever I want - that's what makes this country great and government-certified organic foods gay.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137716</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>AdmiralXyz</author>
	<datestamp>1266146520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>You're absolutely right, but I detect in your voice that you think some people disagree with you. This is something I see a lot, especially from Europeans: the assumption that Americans are actually fanatical supporters of the Imperial system. The truth is, we don't like it (can't speak for the UK, but I suspect it's similar). There isn't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful. The reason it persists is simply one of tradition, and the enormous expense (in terms of money and headaches) it would take to move the entire country over to a new system.<br>
<br>
For example, I have basically no concept in my mind of how far a "kilometer" is. Oh, I know it's<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.62 miles, and I can usually do the conversion in my head, but I don't have an intuitive, subconscious sense of how far a kilometer is, like I do for a mile. I suspect most people raised on the metric system are the same way for Imperial units, it's just not easy to get a natural sense of the units you didn't grow up with. An entire country of people who don't have an intuitive sense of the units they're using would be chaos.</htmltext>
<tokenext>You 're absolutely right , but I detect in your voice that you think some people disagree with you .
This is something I see a lot , especially from Europeans : the assumption that Americans are actually fanatical supporters of the Imperial system .
The truth is , we do n't like it ( ca n't speak for the UK , but I suspect it 's similar ) .
There is n't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful .
The reason it persists is simply one of tradition , and the enormous expense ( in terms of money and headaches ) it would take to move the entire country over to a new system .
For example , I have basically no concept in my mind of how far a " kilometer " is .
Oh , I know it 's .62 miles , and I can usually do the conversion in my head , but I do n't have an intuitive , subconscious sense of how far a kilometer is , like I do for a mile .
I suspect most people raised on the metric system are the same way for Imperial units , it 's just not easy to get a natural sense of the units you did n't grow up with .
An entire country of people who do n't have an intuitive sense of the units they 're using would be chaos .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You're absolutely right, but I detect in your voice that you think some people disagree with you.
This is something I see a lot, especially from Europeans: the assumption that Americans are actually fanatical supporters of the Imperial system.
The truth is, we don't like it (can't speak for the UK, but I suspect it's similar).
There isn't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful.
The reason it persists is simply one of tradition, and the enormous expense (in terms of money and headaches) it would take to move the entire country over to a new system.
For example, I have basically no concept in my mind of how far a "kilometer" is.
Oh, I know it's .62 miles, and I can usually do the conversion in my head, but I don't have an intuitive, subconscious sense of how far a kilometer is, like I do for a mile.
I suspect most people raised on the metric system are the same way for Imperial units, it's just not easy to get a natural sense of the units you didn't grow up with.
An entire country of people who don't have an intuitive sense of the units they're using would be chaos.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137594</id>
	<title>Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>elzurawka</author>
	<datestamp>1266145560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Atleast in scientific application there is no reason to use Imperial. Metric makes all calculations simpler, and is accepted by a much larger portion of the world, and should be the standard in all science.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Atleast in scientific application there is no reason to use Imperial .
Metric makes all calculations simpler , and is accepted by a much larger portion of the world , and should be the standard in all science .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Atleast in scientific application there is no reason to use Imperial.
Metric makes all calculations simpler, and is accepted by a much larger portion of the world, and should be the standard in all science.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139086</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266155820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That this strip exists reveals how deep we are into sh...</p><p>It should be drawn to explain US units (not imperial, UK already switched to metric) to the rest of the world -- not to be useful to less than 5\% of the world's population.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That this strip exists reveals how deep we are into sh...It should be drawn to explain US units ( not imperial , UK already switched to metric ) to the rest of the world -- not to be useful to less than 5 \ % of the world 's population .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That this strip exists reveals how deep we are into sh...It should be drawn to explain US units (not imperial, UK already switched to metric) to the rest of the world -- not to be useful to less than 5\% of the world's population.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31143492</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Lumpy</author>
	<datestamp>1266246480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's been that way cince 1985.  you don't work on cars much do you.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's been that way cince 1985. you do n't work on cars much do you .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's been that way cince 1985.  you don't work on cars much do you.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139712</id>
	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>Chris Gunn</author>
	<datestamp>1266160080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>You have forgotten to consider the costs of not converting to metric.

This forces you to have two systems. workshops have to have a set of imperial tools and a set of metric.

You lose sales to other countries who can't be bothered with your backward machines.

Expensive mistakes (some famous) are made when you aren't sure which units you should be using.

Are you sure you can afford not to give up imperial?</htmltext>
<tokenext>You have forgotten to consider the costs of not converting to metric .
This forces you to have two systems .
workshops have to have a set of imperial tools and a set of metric .
You lose sales to other countries who ca n't be bothered with your backward machines .
Expensive mistakes ( some famous ) are made when you are n't sure which units you should be using .
Are you sure you can afford not to give up imperial ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You have forgotten to consider the costs of not converting to metric.
This forces you to have two systems.
workshops have to have a set of imperial tools and a set of metric.
You lose sales to other countries who can't be bothered with your backward machines.
Expensive mistakes (some famous) are made when you aren't sure which units you should be using.
Are you sure you can afford not to give up imperial?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31138134</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere (Viva Base 12)</title>
	<author>Tablizer</author>
	<datestamp>1266149640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Europeans: the assumption that Americans are actually fanatical supporters of the Imperial system. The truth is, we don't like it (can't speak for the UK, but I suspect it's similar). There isn't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful. The reason it persists is simply one of tradition</p></div></blockquote><p>One thing that Imperial units have going for them is that they better divide by 3 and 4. 12 and arguably 60 make a "nicer" unit base mathematically. Ten is merely a happenstance of tetrapod evolution. A "smart" god would have given us 12 digits instead of 10.<br>
&nbsp;</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Europeans : the assumption that Americans are actually fanatical supporters of the Imperial system .
The truth is , we do n't like it ( ca n't speak for the UK , but I suspect it 's similar ) .
There is n't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful .
The reason it persists is simply one of traditionOne thing that Imperial units have going for them is that they better divide by 3 and 4 .
12 and arguably 60 make a " nicer " unit base mathematically .
Ten is merely a happenstance of tetrapod evolution .
A " smart " god would have given us 12 digits instead of 10 .
 </tokentext>
<sentencetext>Europeans: the assumption that Americans are actually fanatical supporters of the Imperial system.
The truth is, we don't like it (can't speak for the UK, but I suspect it's similar).
There isn't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful.
The reason it persists is simply one of traditionOne thing that Imperial units have going for them is that they better divide by 3 and 4.
12 and arguably 60 make a "nicer" unit base mathematically.
Ten is merely a happenstance of tetrapod evolution.
A "smart" god would have given us 12 digits instead of 10.
 
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31142588</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266236100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>We've had since the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric\_Act\_of\_1866" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Kasson Act</a> [wikipedia.org] back in 1866 to seriously adopt metric, what makes you think we'd get on board now?</p><p>(To be honest, the only place where having both systems be an everyday pain in the ass is on some cars and bicycles where mixed unit fasteners are used. Especially when you have a mm size that's close to an inch size, and then you wonder why your socket gets stuck or a bolt rounds out. But other than that, keeping the imperial system isn't that big a problem for most folks. Miles, yards, and feet, as well as pounds seem intuitive enough for most purposes.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>We 've had since the Kasson Act [ wikipedia.org ] back in 1866 to seriously adopt metric , what makes you think we 'd get on board now ?
( To be honest , the only place where having both systems be an everyday pain in the ass is on some cars and bicycles where mixed unit fasteners are used .
Especially when you have a mm size that 's close to an inch size , and then you wonder why your socket gets stuck or a bolt rounds out .
But other than that , keeping the imperial system is n't that big a problem for most folks .
Miles , yards , and feet , as well as pounds seem intuitive enough for most purposes .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We've had since the Kasson Act [wikipedia.org] back in 1866 to seriously adopt metric, what makes you think we'd get on board now?
(To be honest, the only place where having both systems be an everyday pain in the ass is on some cars and bicycles where mixed unit fasteners are used.
Especially when you have a mm size that's close to an inch size, and then you wonder why your socket gets stuck or a bolt rounds out.
But other than that, keeping the imperial system isn't that big a problem for most folks.
Miles, yards, and feet, as well as pounds seem intuitive enough for most purposes.
)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139454</id>
	<title>it isn't hard, point is, people dont want to</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158280000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>they're sick and tired of having to learn new things just because some asshole decides they have to, they just want to live their lives in the environment they grew up in</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>they 're sick and tired of having to learn new things just because some asshole decides they have to , they just want to live their lives in the environment they grew up in</tokentext>
<sentencetext>they're sick and tired of having to learn new things just because some asshole decides they have to, they just want to live their lives in the environment they grew up in</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31144784</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Yamata no Orochi</author>
	<datestamp>1266252960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Your example is crappy, and you're pointlessly badgering the OP by ripping his sentences out of context. He explained that he thought it was easier because he was used to it. You don't need to pick it apart.</p><p>And to address your example, easier would be small, medium, and large, not dealing in hundreds of some arbitrary unit. People never refer to the "fluid ounces" in a drink anyway, unless to express that's it's especially large somehow (omg 32. oz! Holy shit, 64 oz!)</p><p>If you had to have numbers, 1, 2, 3, and 4.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Your example is crappy , and you 're pointlessly badgering the OP by ripping his sentences out of context .
He explained that he thought it was easier because he was used to it .
You do n't need to pick it apart.And to address your example , easier would be small , medium , and large , not dealing in hundreds of some arbitrary unit .
People never refer to the " fluid ounces " in a drink anyway , unless to express that 's it 's especially large somehow ( omg 32. oz ! Holy shit , 64 oz !
) If you had to have numbers , 1 , 2 , 3 , and 4 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Your example is crappy, and you're pointlessly badgering the OP by ripping his sentences out of context.
He explained that he thought it was easier because he was used to it.
You don't need to pick it apart.And to address your example, easier would be small, medium, and large, not dealing in hundreds of some arbitrary unit.
People never refer to the "fluid ounces" in a drink anyway, unless to express that's it's especially large somehow (omg 32. oz! Holy shit, 64 oz!
)If you had to have numbers, 1, 2, 3, and 4.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31138966</id>
	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>rockNme2349</author>
	<datestamp>1266154860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Metric is better than Fahrenheit, and USA should get on with the times. But Fahrenheit is more accurate. But Celsius can be just as accurate, if you take decimals into the play.</p></div><p>I'm just waiting for everyone to realize the true superiority of Rankine. You don't have to settle! Want for something more: Rankine.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Metric is better than Fahrenheit , and USA should get on with the times .
But Fahrenheit is more accurate .
But Celsius can be just as accurate , if you take decimals into the play.I 'm just waiting for everyone to realize the true superiority of Rankine .
You do n't have to settle !
Want for something more : Rankine .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Metric is better than Fahrenheit, and USA should get on with the times.
But Fahrenheit is more accurate.
But Celsius can be just as accurate, if you take decimals into the play.I'm just waiting for everyone to realize the true superiority of Rankine.
You don't have to settle!
Want for something more: Rankine.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137548</id>
	<title>why is this article red in my browser?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266145260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>is because nobody has commented? cool, i'll pay the troll toll</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>is because nobody has commented ?
cool , i 'll pay the troll toll</tokentext>
<sentencetext>is because nobody has commented?
cool, i'll pay the troll toll</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137840</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>ircmaxell</author>
	<datestamp>1266147480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>I am an american, and I do believe the Imperial system is a lot easier to use.  For me.  Because that's what I learned from day 1.  Do I think it's better?  No way.  Do I think it should be changed to metric?  Absolutely.  But the fact that most people would have a very hard time with switch is why it hasn't happened.  The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"...  That way kids would be taught from the beginning, and regular people would have time to learn the new system...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I am an american , and I do believe the Imperial system is a lot easier to use .
For me .
Because that 's what I learned from day 1 .
Do I think it 's better ?
No way .
Do I think it should be changed to metric ?
Absolutely. But the fact that most people would have a very hard time with switch is why it has n't happened .
The only way it would be able to happen is with a ( possibly multiple ) decade long " dual usage " ... That way kids would be taught from the beginning , and regular people would have time to learn the new system.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am an american, and I do believe the Imperial system is a lot easier to use.
For me.
Because that's what I learned from day 1.
Do I think it's better?
No way.
Do I think it should be changed to metric?
Absolutely.  But the fact that most people would have a very hard time with switch is why it hasn't happened.
The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"...  That way kids would be taught from the beginning, and regular people would have time to learn the new system...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31139462</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266158340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a Canadian I grew up with the Imperial System and starting in seventh grade the country switched to the Systeme Internationale (S.I.) aka Metric System. While I understood the Imperial System I found the Metric System made much more sense and was much easier to use.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a Canadian I grew up with the Imperial System and starting in seventh grade the country switched to the Systeme Internationale ( S.I .
) aka Metric System .
While I understood the Imperial System I found the Metric System made much more sense and was much easier to use .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a Canadian I grew up with the Imperial System and starting in seventh grade the country switched to the Systeme Internationale (S.I.
) aka Metric System.
While I understood the Imperial System I found the Metric System made much more sense and was much easier to use.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137582</id>
	<title>In before...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266145440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Metric is better than Fahrenheit, and USA should get on with the times. But Fahrenheit is more accurate. But Celsius can be just as accurate, if you take decimals into the play.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Metric is better than Fahrenheit , and USA should get on with the times .
But Fahrenheit is more accurate .
But Celsius can be just as accurate , if you take decimals into the play .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Metric is better than Fahrenheit, and USA should get on with the times.
But Fahrenheit is more accurate.
But Celsius can be just as accurate, if you take decimals into the play.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31140364</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266165900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh?  How much is a kilo in metric?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh ?
How much is a kilo in metric ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh?
How much is a kilo in metric?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31141204</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266174960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The key to change, is CHANGE! Just fucking do it! Like ripping a patch from your skin, it wont hurt less becausef you do it slowly (providing enough hair is involved).<br>Expenses is a bullshit argument since everything important is already done in metrics (that which isn't will simply be converted as-needed). You won't have to run out and buy a new ruler just because it changes from inches to centimeters. Just change the official units to metrics and in a few year, you won't remember you were ever using imperials.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The key to change , is CHANGE !
Just fucking do it !
Like ripping a patch from your skin , it wont hurt less becausef you do it slowly ( providing enough hair is involved ) .Expenses is a bullshit argument since everything important is already done in metrics ( that which is n't will simply be converted as-needed ) .
You wo n't have to run out and buy a new ruler just because it changes from inches to centimeters .
Just change the official units to metrics and in a few year , you wo n't remember you were ever using imperials .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The key to change, is CHANGE!
Just fucking do it!
Like ripping a patch from your skin, it wont hurt less becausef you do it slowly (providing enough hair is involved).Expenses is a bullshit argument since everything important is already done in metrics (that which isn't will simply be converted as-needed).
You won't have to run out and buy a new ruler just because it changes from inches to centimeters.
Just change the official units to metrics and in a few year, you won't remember you were ever using imperials.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31142488</id>
	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>xaxa</author>
	<datestamp>1266234480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>roads would not line up with measured distances</p></div><p>Are you suggesting the sign saying "Chicago 128 miles" is <i>exactly</i> 128 miles from Chicago? I'm sure if it said "Chicago 206km" no one would care about the few metres difference.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are <strong>not</strong> in metric.</p></div><p>Are you sure? Whether that's correct or not, it doesn't have to be. In the UK the roads are signed in miles (and yards), but they are built using metres. Some of the official requirements for positioning signs even say that the "exit 300 yards ahead" sign should be 300 <i>metres</i> from the exit.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.</p></div><p>Except for your country, and for a couple of uses in the UK (displayed road distances and speeds, informal body measurements) those other countries have already converted.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>roads would not line up with measured distancesAre you suggesting the sign saying " Chicago 128 miles " is exactly 128 miles from Chicago ?
I 'm sure if it said " Chicago 206km " no one would care about the few metres difference.You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.Are you sure ?
Whether that 's correct or not , it does n't have to be .
In the UK the roads are signed in miles ( and yards ) , but they are built using metres .
Some of the official requirements for positioning signs even say that the " exit 300 yards ahead " sign should be 300 metres from the exit.I 'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.Except for your country , and for a couple of uses in the UK ( displayed road distances and speeds , informal body measurements ) those other countries have already converted .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>roads would not line up with measured distancesAre you suggesting the sign saying "Chicago 128 miles" is exactly 128 miles from Chicago?
I'm sure if it said "Chicago 206km" no one would care about the few metres difference.You also need to consider that every piece of software and every table of elevations and distances that engineers use when building such systems are not in metric.Are you sure?
Whether that's correct or not, it doesn't have to be.
In the UK the roads are signed in miles (and yards), but they are built using metres.
Some of the official requirements for positioning signs even say that the "exit 300 yards ahead" sign should be 300 metres from the exit.I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.Except for your country, and for a couple of uses in the UK (displayed road distances and speeds, informal body measurements) those other countries have already converted.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31151858</id>
	<title>Re:In before...</title>
	<author>Lunzo</author>
	<datestamp>1266251640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Consider it from the other side: why doesn't the world convert to Impirial Units? I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.</p></div>
</blockquote><p>
Every other country has already incurred this cost. We're waiting on you!</p></div>
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<tokenext>Consider it from the other side : why does n't the world convert to Impirial Units ?
I 'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system .
Every other country has already incurred this cost .
We 're waiting on you !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Consider it from the other side: why doesn't the world convert to Impirial Units?
I'm sure no country wants to incur the cost of converting everything to another system.
Every other country has already incurred this cost.
We're waiting on you!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31138084</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>MillionthMonkey</author>
	<datestamp>1266149220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Whenever they attempt to introduce metric here, the first thing you see is old ladies on the TV news bitching about the road signs being wrong.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Whenever they attempt to introduce metric here , the first thing you see is old ladies on the TV news bitching about the road signs being wrong .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Whenever they attempt to introduce metric here, the first thing you see is old ladies on the TV news bitching about the road signs being wrong.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31137900</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266147840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>There isn't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful.</i>  <br>Well unless your buying weed, selling weed or busting weed dealers...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is n't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful .
Well unless your buying weed , selling weed or busting weed dealers.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There isn't anyone in America who actually believes that the Imperial system is easier or more useful.
Well unless your buying weed, selling weed or busting weed dealers...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_14_2034234.31140648</id>
	<title>Re:Metric Everywhere</title>
	<author>PCM2</author>
	<datestamp>1266168300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"... That way kids would be taught from the beginning, and regular people would have time to learn the new system...</p></div><p>Well, no, that wouldn't work on its own. If you think about it, we already have a dual system. Weights and measures of all packaged foods and beverages are printed in both Imperial and metric units. The problem is that the amounts are chosen based on convenience. So "a 12-ounce can of Coke" makes sense, but "354 mL of Coke" sounds off. Similarly, if you went to a butcher and wanted to ask for the same amount of bacon that you get when you buy it prepackaged at the supermarket, 0.454 kilos sounds funny, but a pound sounds about right.</p><p>It would be possible to make it so that the metric units were more favorable, but you really do have to pick one and stick with it. If the soft drink makers switched to 500 mL bottles, for example, it would make more sense to go buy a half-liter of Coke than to say "a 16.9 ounce bottle." Similarly, they could package bacon in half-kilo packages. But as it stands, our culture favors the Imperial units, so when the soft drink companies wanted to come out with a larger-sized decanter, they chose 20-ounce bottles instead of half-liters. A 591-mL bottle sounds appealing to no one.</p></div>
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<tokenext>The only way it would be able to happen is with a ( possibly multiple ) decade long " dual usage " ... That way kids would be taught from the beginning , and regular people would have time to learn the new system...Well , no , that would n't work on its own .
If you think about it , we already have a dual system .
Weights and measures of all packaged foods and beverages are printed in both Imperial and metric units .
The problem is that the amounts are chosen based on convenience .
So " a 12-ounce can of Coke " makes sense , but " 354 mL of Coke " sounds off .
Similarly , if you went to a butcher and wanted to ask for the same amount of bacon that you get when you buy it prepackaged at the supermarket , 0.454 kilos sounds funny , but a pound sounds about right.It would be possible to make it so that the metric units were more favorable , but you really do have to pick one and stick with it .
If the soft drink makers switched to 500 mL bottles , for example , it would make more sense to go buy a half-liter of Coke than to say " a 16.9 ounce bottle .
" Similarly , they could package bacon in half-kilo packages .
But as it stands , our culture favors the Imperial units , so when the soft drink companies wanted to come out with a larger-sized decanter , they chose 20-ounce bottles instead of half-liters .
A 591-mL bottle sounds appealing to no one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only way it would be able to happen is with a (possibly multiple) decade long "dual usage"... That way kids would be taught from the beginning, and regular people would have time to learn the new system...Well, no, that wouldn't work on its own.
If you think about it, we already have a dual system.
Weights and measures of all packaged foods and beverages are printed in both Imperial and metric units.
The problem is that the amounts are chosen based on convenience.
So "a 12-ounce can of Coke" makes sense, but "354 mL of Coke" sounds off.
Similarly, if you went to a butcher and wanted to ask for the same amount of bacon that you get when you buy it prepackaged at the supermarket, 0.454 kilos sounds funny, but a pound sounds about right.It would be possible to make it so that the metric units were more favorable, but you really do have to pick one and stick with it.
If the soft drink makers switched to 500 mL bottles, for example, it would make more sense to go buy a half-liter of Coke than to say "a 16.9 ounce bottle.
" Similarly, they could package bacon in half-kilo packages.
But as it stands, our culture favors the Imperial units, so when the soft drink companies wanted to come out with a larger-sized decanter, they chose 20-ounce bottles instead of half-liters.
A 591-mL bottle sounds appealing to no one.
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