<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_13_020209</id>
	<title>Porsche Unveils 911 Hybrid With Flywheel Booster</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1266070200000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>MikeChino writes <i>"Porsche has just unveiled its <a href="http://www.inhabitat.com/2010/02/12/porsche-unveils-911-hybrid-with-flywheel-speed-booster/">911 GT3 R Hybrid</a>, a 480 horsepower track vehicle ready to rock the 24-hour Nurburgring race this May. Porsche's latest supercar will use the same 911 production platform available to consumers today, with a few race-ready features including front-wheel hybrid drive and an innovative flywheel system that stores kinetic energy from braking and then uses it to provide a 160 horsepower burst of speed. The setup is sure to offer an advantage when powering out of turns and passing by other racers."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>MikeChino writes " Porsche has just unveiled its 911 GT3 R Hybrid , a 480 horsepower track vehicle ready to rock the 24-hour Nurburgring race this May .
Porsche 's latest supercar will use the same 911 production platform available to consumers today , with a few race-ready features including front-wheel hybrid drive and an innovative flywheel system that stores kinetic energy from braking and then uses it to provide a 160 horsepower burst of speed .
The setup is sure to offer an advantage when powering out of turns and passing by other racers .
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<sentencetext>MikeChino writes "Porsche has just unveiled its 911 GT3 R Hybrid, a 480 horsepower track vehicle ready to rock the 24-hour Nurburgring race this May.
Porsche's latest supercar will use the same 911 production platform available to consumers today, with a few race-ready features including front-wheel hybrid drive and an innovative flywheel system that stores kinetic energy from braking and then uses it to provide a 160 horsepower burst of speed.
The setup is sure to offer an advantage when powering out of turns and passing by other racers.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124836</id>
	<title>Mass would be a problem</title>
	<author>Quila</author>
	<datestamp>1266001920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>With race cars, the lighter the better -- better braking, better turning, better acceleration.</p><p>With flywheels it's the opposite, the more mass the better (the more energy it will hold at a given speed).</p><p>It looks like the flywheel will rectify only one of the above performance components that its extra mass hurts -- acceleration.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>With race cars , the lighter the better -- better braking , better turning , better acceleration.With flywheels it 's the opposite , the more mass the better ( the more energy it will hold at a given speed ) .It looks like the flywheel will rectify only one of the above performance components that its extra mass hurts -- acceleration .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>With race cars, the lighter the better -- better braking, better turning, better acceleration.With flywheels it's the opposite, the more mass the better (the more energy it will hold at a given speed).It looks like the flywheel will rectify only one of the above performance components that its extra mass hurts -- acceleration.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125318</id>
	<title>Re:A little more info (but not much)</title>
	<author>kimvette</author>
	<datestamp>1266053040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>LeMans is also requiring hybrid systems, though they've banned anything with a flywheel.</p></div></blockquote><p>So, this means no manual transmissions?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>LeMans is also requiring hybrid systems , though they 've banned anything with a flywheel.So , this means no manual transmissions ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>LeMans is also requiring hybrid systems, though they've banned anything with a flywheel.So, this means no manual transmissions?
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124976</id>
	<title>Re:Will Porsche succeed where KERS failed?</title>
	<author>pipingguy</author>
	<datestamp>1266003600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Could happen. After all, they've saved-up countless millions of engineering hours by not having to pay designers to re-think the shape, configuration and style of the original Beetle.<br> <br>

The 911 is some serious evolution of "The People's Car". I'll not Godwinize myself here.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Could happen .
After all , they 've saved-up countless millions of engineering hours by not having to pay designers to re-think the shape , configuration and style of the original Beetle .
The 911 is some serious evolution of " The People 's Car " .
I 'll not Godwinize myself here .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Could happen.
After all, they've saved-up countless millions of engineering hours by not having to pay designers to re-think the shape, configuration and style of the original Beetle.
The 911 is some serious evolution of "The People's Car".
I'll not Godwinize myself here.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123678</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1265989620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I was wondering this, too.  I think they could negate it with gimbals, though.</p><p>What would be really interesting is if they could figure out a way to use the flywheel + gimbals selectively in some sort of anti-roll/traction control/etc, when necessary.  IANAMechE, though, maybe someone with a deeper background could hypothesize further<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I was wondering this , too .
I think they could negate it with gimbals , though.What would be really interesting is if they could figure out a way to use the flywheel + gimbals selectively in some sort of anti-roll/traction control/etc , when necessary .
IANAMechE , though , maybe someone with a deeper background could hypothesize further : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was wondering this, too.
I think they could negate it with gimbals, though.What would be really interesting is if they could figure out a way to use the flywheel + gimbals selectively in some sort of anti-roll/traction control/etc, when necessary.
IANAMechE, though, maybe someone with a deeper background could hypothesize further :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124648</id>
	<title>Re:Will Porsche succeed where KERS failed?</title>
	<author>tangent3</author>
	<datestamp>1265999640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The KERS cars performed poorly at the start of the season, but started catching up during the middle of the season, with McLaren having the fastest car at the end of the season. The double diffuser controversy also had a big hand in holding back the KERS cars at the start of the season.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The KERS cars performed poorly at the start of the season , but started catching up during the middle of the season , with McLaren having the fastest car at the end of the season .
The double diffuser controversy also had a big hand in holding back the KERS cars at the start of the season .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The KERS cars performed poorly at the start of the season, but started catching up during the middle of the season, with McLaren having the fastest car at the end of the season.
The double diffuser controversy also had a big hand in holding back the KERS cars at the start of the season.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124584</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>ceiling9</author>
	<datestamp>1265998980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>A mass with angular momentum experiences a moment in a direction perpendicular to both the angular momentum, and the rate of change of the angular momentum.  I'm not sure if I stated that correctly, I may be off, but what it means is that if the flywheel is mounted horizontally (the angular momentum vector pointed straight up or down) then when the car rolls, it will generate a pitching moment, and when the car pitches, it will generate a rolling moment.  I don't know if it would be likely that the car would experience high enough pitch or roll rates for this to be a factor.  A stabilizer could rotate the flywheel internally in the car pitch axis to generate a rolling moment when going around corners.</htmltext>
<tokenext>A mass with angular momentum experiences a moment in a direction perpendicular to both the angular momentum , and the rate of change of the angular momentum .
I 'm not sure if I stated that correctly , I may be off , but what it means is that if the flywheel is mounted horizontally ( the angular momentum vector pointed straight up or down ) then when the car rolls , it will generate a pitching moment , and when the car pitches , it will generate a rolling moment .
I do n't know if it would be likely that the car would experience high enough pitch or roll rates for this to be a factor .
A stabilizer could rotate the flywheel internally in the car pitch axis to generate a rolling moment when going around corners .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A mass with angular momentum experiences a moment in a direction perpendicular to both the angular momentum, and the rate of change of the angular momentum.
I'm not sure if I stated that correctly, I may be off, but what it means is that if the flywheel is mounted horizontally (the angular momentum vector pointed straight up or down) then when the car rolls, it will generate a pitching moment, and when the car pitches, it will generate a rolling moment.
I don't know if it would be likely that the car would experience high enough pitch or roll rates for this to be a factor.
A stabilizer could rotate the flywheel internally in the car pitch axis to generate a rolling moment when going around corners.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123926</id>
	<title>Hello?  News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265991960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Stories about Vespas maybe, but chick magnet high performance European two-seater autos<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... out of bounds for too many reasons to count.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Stories about Vespas maybe , but chick magnet high performance European two-seater autos ... out of bounds for too many reasons to count .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Stories about Vespas maybe, but chick magnet high performance European two-seater autos ... out of bounds for too many reasons to count.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31127376</id>
	<title>Re:Mass would be a problem</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266080160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That was my first thought too. Flywheels depend on mass, and mass is the arch-enemy in race car design.</p><p>You can trade mass for RPM though, and it sounds at 40,000 RPM like they've done that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That was my first thought too .
Flywheels depend on mass , and mass is the arch-enemy in race car design.You can trade mass for RPM though , and it sounds at 40,000 RPM like they 've done that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was my first thought too.
Flywheels depend on mass, and mass is the arch-enemy in race car design.You can trade mass for RPM though, and it sounds at 40,000 RPM like they've done that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123652</id>
	<title>sounds familiar</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265989440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hybrid-drivetrain racecar with a flywheel sounds a lot like <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=053lJ8sFTAYC&amp;pg=PA101" title="google.com">this 1994 car</a> [google.com].</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hybrid-drivetrain racecar with a flywheel sounds a lot like this 1994 car [ google.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hybrid-drivetrain racecar with a flywheel sounds a lot like this 1994 car [google.com].</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123670</id>
	<title>Wow, they incorporated technology...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265989560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>from lawnmower engines!</p><p>Actually, I'm glad to see car companies reclaiming all that kinetic energy that they were previously just radiating off as heat during braking.</p><p>I bet a flywheel is an incredibly efficient way to store it, too. Now, lets see if these brakes actually work. Hope they did a better job than Toyota.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>from lawnmower engines ! Actually , I 'm glad to see car companies reclaiming all that kinetic energy that they were previously just radiating off as heat during braking.I bet a flywheel is an incredibly efficient way to store it , too .
Now , lets see if these brakes actually work .
Hope they did a better job than Toyota .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>from lawnmower engines!Actually, I'm glad to see car companies reclaiming all that kinetic energy that they were previously just radiating off as heat during braking.I bet a flywheel is an incredibly efficient way to store it, too.
Now, lets see if these brakes actually work.
Hope they did a better job than Toyota.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124400</id>
	<title>Re:sounds familiar</title>
	<author>somepunk</author>
	<datestamp>1265996760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Or <a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,985185-1,00.html" title="time.com" rel="nofollow">this one</a> [time.com] from about the same time. They were trying to develop a consumer version. When they gave up, it was due to a lack of interest (the heyday of SUVs!), not technical problems, from everything I've read.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Or this one [ time.com ] from about the same time .
They were trying to develop a consumer version .
When they gave up , it was due to a lack of interest ( the heyday of SUVs !
) , not technical problems , from everything I 've read .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or this one [time.com] from about the same time.
They were trying to develop a consumer version.
When they gave up, it was due to a lack of interest (the heyday of SUVs!
), not technical problems, from everything I've read.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123488</id>
	<title>I want 2!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265987880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Flywheel drive is SciFi cool!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flywheel drive is SciFi cool !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flywheel drive is SciFi cool!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125940</id>
	<title>Re:awful typo in article</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1266064260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That was a case of braken English<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>That was a case of braken English : - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That was a case of braken English :-)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124808</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>ukemike</author>
	<datestamp>1266001680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Though the common computer nerd is the most high profile and widely recognized nerd, there are in fact many varieties of nerds found in the wild.  Today we will feature the mechanical engineer.  The ME once dominated the high tech world creating turbines, fighter jets, and space rockets.  Today it is common to find an odd crossbreed of the ME nerd and the car geek.  This type of nerd stands out in several important ways.  The mechanical engineer / car geek, often displays impressive social skills when compared to the meager skills of the computer nerd.  ME's consider computers to be a means to an end instead of the end itself.  One other common characteristic of the ME nerd / car geek is that he typically considered the various iterations of the Porsche 911 to be the very pinnacles of industrial design.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Though the common computer nerd is the most high profile and widely recognized nerd , there are in fact many varieties of nerds found in the wild .
Today we will feature the mechanical engineer .
The ME once dominated the high tech world creating turbines , fighter jets , and space rockets .
Today it is common to find an odd crossbreed of the ME nerd and the car geek .
This type of nerd stands out in several important ways .
The mechanical engineer / car geek , often displays impressive social skills when compared to the meager skills of the computer nerd .
ME 's consider computers to be a means to an end instead of the end itself .
One other common characteristic of the ME nerd / car geek is that he typically considered the various iterations of the Porsche 911 to be the very pinnacles of industrial design .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Though the common computer nerd is the most high profile and widely recognized nerd, there are in fact many varieties of nerds found in the wild.
Today we will feature the mechanical engineer.
The ME once dominated the high tech world creating turbines, fighter jets, and space rockets.
Today it is common to find an odd crossbreed of the ME nerd and the car geek.
This type of nerd stands out in several important ways.
The mechanical engineer / car geek, often displays impressive social skills when compared to the meager skills of the computer nerd.
ME's consider computers to be a means to an end instead of the end itself.
One other common characteristic of the ME nerd / car geek is that he typically considered the various iterations of the Porsche 911 to be the very pinnacles of industrial design.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31131070</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>epine</author>
	<datestamp>1266065940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Approximation is a social construct.  Most of the kids who are frightfully accelerated end up in math or computer science or some hard core discipline which can be done with no recourse to social constructs whatsoever.  A 14-year-old prodigy doesn't have much social context to fall back upon.  There's too much social context in engineering to appeal to many of these kids: what part of the equation to cross off and ignore today because it typically ends up being a rounding error on a safety margin.</p><p>These are the same kids who might have preferred engineering had they entered university at a more mature age. That's a selection bias that doesn't have much to do with it.  I'm only interested in comparing people who have the engineering temperament with people who have the math/computer science temperament.  There are some fairly deep differences in how these tribes approach simplicity, another social construct.  It doesn't interest me much that math and physics are the best holding tanks for a certain type of person on an extreme cognitive development path.</p><p>The other bias is how you count sobriety.  An engineer has roughly the same amount of social skill, divided into fewer sober hours.  How much skill is involved in drinking six pints?  How much social skill is involved in counting binge drinking as a social skill?  After graduation the engineers look around the room and go "we're all relatively normal" not counting their fallen comrades who succumbed to life-long alcoholism i.e. those who continue behaving the same way after leaving school.</p><p>More of the attrition from math and computer science is by way of the psychiatric ward.  A fallen engineer might end up turning a wrench in a pit crew (not at the F1 level).  A fallen mathematician might go around knitting an imaginary blanket patterned after a Turkish fractal.</p><p>I was thinking about cognitive bias earlier today.  We're all pretty good at cooking the denominator, which seems to be a prerequisite for social acceptance.  Social skill is most impressive when least understood.  We're a strange species.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Approximation is a social construct .
Most of the kids who are frightfully accelerated end up in math or computer science or some hard core discipline which can be done with no recourse to social constructs whatsoever .
A 14-year-old prodigy does n't have much social context to fall back upon .
There 's too much social context in engineering to appeal to many of these kids : what part of the equation to cross off and ignore today because it typically ends up being a rounding error on a safety margin.These are the same kids who might have preferred engineering had they entered university at a more mature age .
That 's a selection bias that does n't have much to do with it .
I 'm only interested in comparing people who have the engineering temperament with people who have the math/computer science temperament .
There are some fairly deep differences in how these tribes approach simplicity , another social construct .
It does n't interest me much that math and physics are the best holding tanks for a certain type of person on an extreme cognitive development path.The other bias is how you count sobriety .
An engineer has roughly the same amount of social skill , divided into fewer sober hours .
How much skill is involved in drinking six pints ?
How much social skill is involved in counting binge drinking as a social skill ?
After graduation the engineers look around the room and go " we 're all relatively normal " not counting their fallen comrades who succumbed to life-long alcoholism i.e .
those who continue behaving the same way after leaving school.More of the attrition from math and computer science is by way of the psychiatric ward .
A fallen engineer might end up turning a wrench in a pit crew ( not at the F1 level ) .
A fallen mathematician might go around knitting an imaginary blanket patterned after a Turkish fractal.I was thinking about cognitive bias earlier today .
We 're all pretty good at cooking the denominator , which seems to be a prerequisite for social acceptance .
Social skill is most impressive when least understood .
We 're a strange species .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Approximation is a social construct.
Most of the kids who are frightfully accelerated end up in math or computer science or some hard core discipline which can be done with no recourse to social constructs whatsoever.
A 14-year-old prodigy doesn't have much social context to fall back upon.
There's too much social context in engineering to appeal to many of these kids: what part of the equation to cross off and ignore today because it typically ends up being a rounding error on a safety margin.These are the same kids who might have preferred engineering had they entered university at a more mature age.
That's a selection bias that doesn't have much to do with it.
I'm only interested in comparing people who have the engineering temperament with people who have the math/computer science temperament.
There are some fairly deep differences in how these tribes approach simplicity, another social construct.
It doesn't interest me much that math and physics are the best holding tanks for a certain type of person on an extreme cognitive development path.The other bias is how you count sobriety.
An engineer has roughly the same amount of social skill, divided into fewer sober hours.
How much skill is involved in drinking six pints?
How much social skill is involved in counting binge drinking as a social skill?
After graduation the engineers look around the room and go "we're all relatively normal" not counting their fallen comrades who succumbed to life-long alcoholism i.e.
those who continue behaving the same way after leaving school.More of the attrition from math and computer science is by way of the psychiatric ward.
A fallen engineer might end up turning a wrench in a pit crew (not at the F1 level).
A fallen mathematician might go around knitting an imaginary blanket patterned after a Turkish fractal.I was thinking about cognitive bias earlier today.
We're all pretty good at cooking the denominator, which seems to be a prerequisite for social acceptance.
Social skill is most impressive when least understood.
We're a strange species.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124176</id>
	<title>Explanation of how it works</title>
	<author>fluffy99</author>
	<datestamp>1265994360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Quoting from <a href="http://www.dailytech.com/Porsche+911+GT3+R+Hybrid+to+Debut+in+Geneva/article17666.htm" title="dailytech.com">http://www.dailytech.com/Porsche+911+GT3+R+Hybrid+to+Debut+in+Geneva/article17666.htm</a> [dailytech.com] </p><p><div class="quote"><p>The hybrid system in the GT3 R Hybrid uses a flywheel system that harnesses kinetic energy under braking to power a pair of electric motors mounted in a single assembly. The electric motors and flywheel assembly sit where the passenger seat of a street 911 would normally reside. Power gathered by the flywheel system is sent to the front wheels and when fully charged the hybrid system can provide a 6-8 second burst of power for passing and exiting corners activated by a button on the steering wheel. The flywheel in the hybrid system will reportedly spin as fast as 40,000 rpm.</p><p>The pair of electric motors provides an additional 161 horsepower to the front wheels supplementing the 4.0-liter flat-6 that produces 480hp and sends its power to the rear wheels. Porsche is mum on performance claims for the 911 GT3 R Hybrid, but the car will appear on May 15 at the Nurburgring 24 Hours endurance race."</p></div><p>So it's not too different from a normal hybrid, except instead of charging batteries to store the energy they are spinning up a flywheel.  The forward kinetic energy of the vehicle is recovered as electrical power using generators/motors, which drives generator/motors that spin up a flywheel.  Going the other way, the flywheel mechanical energy is converted back to electricity to drive the front wheel motors.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Quoting from http : //www.dailytech.com/Porsche + 911 + GT3 + R + Hybrid + to + Debut + in + Geneva/article17666.htm [ dailytech.com ] The hybrid system in the GT3 R Hybrid uses a flywheel system that harnesses kinetic energy under braking to power a pair of electric motors mounted in a single assembly .
The electric motors and flywheel assembly sit where the passenger seat of a street 911 would normally reside .
Power gathered by the flywheel system is sent to the front wheels and when fully charged the hybrid system can provide a 6-8 second burst of power for passing and exiting corners activated by a button on the steering wheel .
The flywheel in the hybrid system will reportedly spin as fast as 40,000 rpm.The pair of electric motors provides an additional 161 horsepower to the front wheels supplementing the 4.0-liter flat-6 that produces 480hp and sends its power to the rear wheels .
Porsche is mum on performance claims for the 911 GT3 R Hybrid , but the car will appear on May 15 at the Nurburgring 24 Hours endurance race .
" So it 's not too different from a normal hybrid , except instead of charging batteries to store the energy they are spinning up a flywheel .
The forward kinetic energy of the vehicle is recovered as electrical power using generators/motors , which drives generator/motors that spin up a flywheel .
Going the other way , the flywheel mechanical energy is converted back to electricity to drive the front wheel motors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Quoting from http://www.dailytech.com/Porsche+911+GT3+R+Hybrid+to+Debut+in+Geneva/article17666.htm [dailytech.com] The hybrid system in the GT3 R Hybrid uses a flywheel system that harnesses kinetic energy under braking to power a pair of electric motors mounted in a single assembly.
The electric motors and flywheel assembly sit where the passenger seat of a street 911 would normally reside.
Power gathered by the flywheel system is sent to the front wheels and when fully charged the hybrid system can provide a 6-8 second burst of power for passing and exiting corners activated by a button on the steering wheel.
The flywheel in the hybrid system will reportedly spin as fast as 40,000 rpm.The pair of electric motors provides an additional 161 horsepower to the front wheels supplementing the 4.0-liter flat-6 that produces 480hp and sends its power to the rear wheels.
Porsche is mum on performance claims for the 911 GT3 R Hybrid, but the car will appear on May 15 at the Nurburgring 24 Hours endurance race.
"So it's not too different from a normal hybrid, except instead of charging batteries to store the energy they are spinning up a flywheel.
The forward kinetic energy of the vehicle is recovered as electrical power using generators/motors, which drives generator/motors that spin up a flywheel.
Going the other way, the flywheel mechanical energy is converted back to electricity to drive the front wheel motors.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125926</id>
	<title>Re: No KERS in F1 in 2010</title>
	<author>pmontra</author>
	<datestamp>1266064080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>They allowed the KERS to store only 80 HP and it could be used for at most 6 seconds per lap.<br>
Add to this that none of the teams that planned to use KERS designed a car with a double diffuser, an aerodinamical device allowed by a loophole in the rules initially exploited by only three teams. The double diffuser turned out to be far more important than the KERS for the performances of the car. Brawn GP got an expecially good implementation of the device and won 6 of the first 7 races. After that they coasted to win the championship as the other teams struggled to catch up. KERS teams got on par only on the last races of the season.
<br>
By the way, BMW abandoned KERS quite early in the season and it used it only on one of its cars.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They allowed the KERS to store only 80 HP and it could be used for at most 6 seconds per lap .
Add to this that none of the teams that planned to use KERS designed a car with a double diffuser , an aerodinamical device allowed by a loophole in the rules initially exploited by only three teams .
The double diffuser turned out to be far more important than the KERS for the performances of the car .
Brawn GP got an expecially good implementation of the device and won 6 of the first 7 races .
After that they coasted to win the championship as the other teams struggled to catch up .
KERS teams got on par only on the last races of the season .
By the way , BMW abandoned KERS quite early in the season and it used it only on one of its cars .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They allowed the KERS to store only 80 HP and it could be used for at most 6 seconds per lap.
Add to this that none of the teams that planned to use KERS designed a car with a double diffuser, an aerodinamical device allowed by a loophole in the rules initially exploited by only three teams.
The double diffuser turned out to be far more important than the KERS for the performances of the car.
Brawn GP got an expecially good implementation of the device and won 6 of the first 7 races.
After that they coasted to win the championship as the other teams struggled to catch up.
KERS teams got on par only on the last races of the season.
By the way, BMW abandoned KERS quite early in the season and it used it only on one of its cars.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31127758</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266082800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>aspurgers?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>aspurgers ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>aspurgers?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123578</id>
	<title>Will Porsche succeed where KERS failed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265988780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is very similiar to the KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) that was used by some F1 teams last year such as McLaren and Ferrari. The system failed because the gains weren't enough to offset weight and bulk of the system. All F1 cars weigh 600kg, but the cars themselves are actually much lighter and need to be ballasted to reach this weight. The distribution of this ballast is very important, as keeping the center of gravity low on a race car is critical. Cars with KERS has a higher center of gravity than other cars because the KERS systems couldn't be placed as low as ballast.  Add to that the loss of development time on other areas of the car, and the result is that all of the teams with KERS performed very poorly.

This Porsche could make a hybrid system work, as it has more design flexibility and a longer race.  Fuel savings will be exxagerated by the extreme length of the race, which is 12 times longer than the maximum time allowed for an F1 race.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is very similiar to the KERS ( Kinetic Energy Recovery System ) that was used by some F1 teams last year such as McLaren and Ferrari .
The system failed because the gains were n't enough to offset weight and bulk of the system .
All F1 cars weigh 600kg , but the cars themselves are actually much lighter and need to be ballasted to reach this weight .
The distribution of this ballast is very important , as keeping the center of gravity low on a race car is critical .
Cars with KERS has a higher center of gravity than other cars because the KERS systems could n't be placed as low as ballast .
Add to that the loss of development time on other areas of the car , and the result is that all of the teams with KERS performed very poorly .
This Porsche could make a hybrid system work , as it has more design flexibility and a longer race .
Fuel savings will be exxagerated by the extreme length of the race , which is 12 times longer than the maximum time allowed for an F1 race .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is very similiar to the KERS (Kinetic Energy Recovery System) that was used by some F1 teams last year such as McLaren and Ferrari.
The system failed because the gains weren't enough to offset weight and bulk of the system.
All F1 cars weigh 600kg, but the cars themselves are actually much lighter and need to be ballasted to reach this weight.
The distribution of this ballast is very important, as keeping the center of gravity low on a race car is critical.
Cars with KERS has a higher center of gravity than other cars because the KERS systems couldn't be placed as low as ballast.
Add to that the loss of development time on other areas of the car, and the result is that all of the teams with KERS performed very poorly.
This Porsche could make a hybrid system work, as it has more design flexibility and a longer race.
Fuel savings will be exxagerated by the extreme length of the race, which is 12 times longer than the maximum time allowed for an F1 race.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31129714</id>
	<title>Posting to...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266054120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...fix accidental incorrect moderation (damn scroll-wheel focus!).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...fix accidental incorrect moderation ( damn scroll-wheel focus !
) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...fix accidental incorrect moderation (damn scroll-wheel focus!
).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123818</id>
	<title>Re:A little more info (but not much)</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1265990880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A rule change in the F1 league requires Kenetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) systems for all F1 cars in 2010 and is pretty much the main driver behind the technology. LeMans is also requiring hybrid systems, though they've banned anything with a flywheel. Williams developed the only flywheel KERS and AFAIK is the only team which developed <i>any</i> system in-house &amp; without a partner in the auto industry.</p><p>Here's some better info explaining the technology:<br><a href="http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/11/videos-porsche-911-gt3-r-hybrid-uses-williams-f1-flywheel-kers/" title="autoblog.com">http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/11/videos-porsche-911-gt3-r-hybrid-uses-williams-f1-flywheel-kers/</a> [autoblog.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A rule change in the F1 league requires Kenetic Energy Recovery Systems ( KERS ) systems for all F1 cars in 2010 and is pretty much the main driver behind the technology .
LeMans is also requiring hybrid systems , though they 've banned anything with a flywheel .
Williams developed the only flywheel KERS and AFAIK is the only team which developed any system in-house &amp; without a partner in the auto industry.Here 's some better info explaining the technology : http : //www.autoblog.com/2010/02/11/videos-porsche-911-gt3-r-hybrid-uses-williams-f1-flywheel-kers/ [ autoblog.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A rule change in the F1 league requires Kenetic Energy Recovery Systems (KERS) systems for all F1 cars in 2010 and is pretty much the main driver behind the technology.
LeMans is also requiring hybrid systems, though they've banned anything with a flywheel.
Williams developed the only flywheel KERS and AFAIK is the only team which developed any system in-house &amp; without a partner in the auto industry.Here's some better info explaining the technology:http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/11/videos-porsche-911-gt3-r-hybrid-uses-williams-f1-flywheel-kers/ [autoblog.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125374</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>thsths</author>
	<datestamp>1266054420000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No people with understanding of physics around, hm? Of course you use to counter-rotating flywheels to cancel the gyroscopic effects.</p><p>The real problem is in the bearings: they still have to deal with the forces, and the general concern is that they wear out faster than anything else on the care.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No people with understanding of physics around , hm ?
Of course you use to counter-rotating flywheels to cancel the gyroscopic effects.The real problem is in the bearings : they still have to deal with the forces , and the general concern is that they wear out faster than anything else on the care .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No people with understanding of physics around, hm?
Of course you use to counter-rotating flywheels to cancel the gyroscopic effects.The real problem is in the bearings: they still have to deal with the forces, and the general concern is that they wear out faster than anything else on the care.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125422</id>
	<title>Re:Porsche...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266055140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I wish movies would stop insulting people's intelligence. As if a boat like Guido was driving could keep up with the Porsche for, say, 2 seconds. Yet it manages to be on their tail for minutes, with its boat like suspension wobblying all over the place, all the while putting down less than 200HP and probably outweighting the Porsche 2:1. Stupid. It would have been left for dead right at the stop light, and a country mile behind all those narrow back alley twists and turns.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I wish movies would stop insulting people 's intelligence .
As if a boat like Guido was driving could keep up with the Porsche for , say , 2 seconds .
Yet it manages to be on their tail for minutes , with its boat like suspension wobblying all over the place , all the while putting down less than 200HP and probably outweighting the Porsche 2 : 1 .
Stupid. It would have been left for dead right at the stop light , and a country mile behind all those narrow back alley twists and turns .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wish movies would stop insulting people's intelligence.
As if a boat like Guido was driving could keep up with the Porsche for, say, 2 seconds.
Yet it manages to be on their tail for minutes, with its boat like suspension wobblying all over the place, all the while putting down less than 200HP and probably outweighting the Porsche 2:1.
Stupid. It would have been left for dead right at the stop light, and a country mile behind all those narrow back alley twists and turns.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31129192</id>
	<title>Re:Will Porsche succeed where KERS failed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266093720000</datestamp>
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	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The flywheel doesn't need to be in the VERTICAL plane...</p><p>Everyone is talking about gyroscopic forces, and high center of gravity, but if the flywheel is in the horizontal plane, then it can be at or below the bottom of the chassis and contribute no gyroscope forces upon turning. This might even help LOWER the center of gravity</p><p>Of course there would still be torque reactions upon braking/accelerating from the acceleration of the flywheel, but I would contend that these are probably quite a bit less than gyroscopic forces.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The flywheel does n't need to be in the VERTICAL plane...Everyone is talking about gyroscopic forces , and high center of gravity , but if the flywheel is in the horizontal plane , then it can be at or below the bottom of the chassis and contribute no gyroscope forces upon turning .
This might even help LOWER the center of gravityOf course there would still be torque reactions upon braking/accelerating from the acceleration of the flywheel , but I would contend that these are probably quite a bit less than gyroscopic forces .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The flywheel doesn't need to be in the VERTICAL plane...Everyone is talking about gyroscopic forces, and high center of gravity, but if the flywheel is in the horizontal plane, then it can be at or below the bottom of the chassis and contribute no gyroscope forces upon turning.
This might even help LOWER the center of gravityOf course there would still be torque reactions upon braking/accelerating from the acceleration of the flywheel, but I would contend that these are probably quite a bit less than gyroscopic forces.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126054</id>
	<title>I love my 911...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266066300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've got a 911.  From the late 80s.  This is an amazing machine.  It's right there in hacker folklore alongside IBM Model M and HP LaserJet 4M+: indestructible machines of outstanding quality.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've got a 911 .
From the late 80s .
This is an amazing machine .
It 's right there in hacker folklore alongside IBM Model M and HP LaserJet 4M + : indestructible machines of outstanding quality .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've got a 911.
From the late 80s.
This is an amazing machine.
It's right there in hacker folklore alongside IBM Model M and HP LaserJet 4M+: indestructible machines of outstanding quality.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31128892</id>
	<title>Re:A little more info (but not much)</title>
	<author>Xiph1980</author>
	<datestamp>1266091080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>kimvette, you can have a direct-drive hybrid where the powerhouse (typically internal combustion engine) is physically connected to the wheels, but with an electromotor connected to the drivetrain that assists when driving slowly, and charges the batteries when breaking, so that would still give you the option of having a manual transmission system in place.<br>
<br>
MichaelSmith, there is absolutely no reason to leave out (or include for that matter) a compressor in a hybrid car. Infact, most engines have a higher efficiency with some compression added. If you have a disconnected engine (where all the engine does is to charge the batteries without physical connection to the drivetrain) you want an engine that has the highest efficiency possible (for personal use, that would typically be "supplied energy" / "fuel energy density", but for racing the weight of the engine is probably more important). That could very well be a specific engine that performs optimal with a compressor at a very thin RPM range.</htmltext>
<tokenext>kimvette , you can have a direct-drive hybrid where the powerhouse ( typically internal combustion engine ) is physically connected to the wheels , but with an electromotor connected to the drivetrain that assists when driving slowly , and charges the batteries when breaking , so that would still give you the option of having a manual transmission system in place .
MichaelSmith , there is absolutely no reason to leave out ( or include for that matter ) a compressor in a hybrid car .
Infact , most engines have a higher efficiency with some compression added .
If you have a disconnected engine ( where all the engine does is to charge the batteries without physical connection to the drivetrain ) you want an engine that has the highest efficiency possible ( for personal use , that would typically be " supplied energy " / " fuel energy density " , but for racing the weight of the engine is probably more important ) .
That could very well be a specific engine that performs optimal with a compressor at a very thin RPM range .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>kimvette, you can have a direct-drive hybrid where the powerhouse (typically internal combustion engine) is physically connected to the wheels, but with an electromotor connected to the drivetrain that assists when driving slowly, and charges the batteries when breaking, so that would still give you the option of having a manual transmission system in place.
MichaelSmith, there is absolutely no reason to leave out (or include for that matter) a compressor in a hybrid car.
Infact, most engines have a higher efficiency with some compression added.
If you have a disconnected engine (where all the engine does is to charge the batteries without physical connection to the drivetrain) you want an engine that has the highest efficiency possible (for personal use, that would typically be "supplied energy" / "fuel energy density", but for racing the weight of the engine is probably more important).
That could very well be a specific engine that performs optimal with a compressor at a very thin RPM range.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31129746</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266054360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>MEs consider 911s to be the pinnacle of industrial design? uhm, speak for yourself clown. I would take a modern CHP turbine, any modern turbine really, a 50yr old nuclear propulsion system, or even a hundred pieces of drilling/mining/excavation equipment designs over a funny little consumer toy.<br>
&nbsp; <br>um also don't hold us to your dinosaur view of computers either.<br>
&nbsp; It's crazy troglodytes like yourself that drive enrollment into other engineering programs.</p><p>
&nbsp; AM I STANDING ON YOUR LAWN? CAN YOU EVEN HERE ME?</p><p>
&nbsp; ME's DO IT ALL. THERMO/TRANSPORT/POWER TRANSFER. We built the world and uhh, although you were perhaps laid off be refusing to adopt new skills, the rest of us will still be building it tomorrow. IT seems easier to teach semi conductor fab to MEs than thermo to EEs and o-chem to MEs than correct transport to CHEMEs. And all of us polished our CS skills, uhh, over one long weekend in 9th grade.....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>MEs consider 911s to be the pinnacle of industrial design ?
uhm , speak for yourself clown .
I would take a modern CHP turbine , any modern turbine really , a 50yr old nuclear propulsion system , or even a hundred pieces of drilling/mining/excavation equipment designs over a funny little consumer toy .
  um also do n't hold us to your dinosaur view of computers either .
  It 's crazy troglodytes like yourself that drive enrollment into other engineering programs .
  AM I STANDING ON YOUR LAWN ?
CAN YOU EVEN HERE ME ?
  ME 's DO IT ALL .
THERMO/TRANSPORT/POWER TRANSFER .
We built the world and uhh , although you were perhaps laid off be refusing to adopt new skills , the rest of us will still be building it tomorrow .
IT seems easier to teach semi conductor fab to MEs than thermo to EEs and o-chem to MEs than correct transport to CHEMEs .
And all of us polished our CS skills , uhh , over one long weekend in 9th grade.... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>MEs consider 911s to be the pinnacle of industrial design?
uhm, speak for yourself clown.
I would take a modern CHP turbine, any modern turbine really, a 50yr old nuclear propulsion system, or even a hundred pieces of drilling/mining/excavation equipment designs over a funny little consumer toy.
  um also don't hold us to your dinosaur view of computers either.
  It's crazy troglodytes like yourself that drive enrollment into other engineering programs.
  AM I STANDING ON YOUR LAWN?
CAN YOU EVEN HERE ME?
  ME's DO IT ALL.
THERMO/TRANSPORT/POWER TRANSFER.
We built the world and uhh, although you were perhaps laid off be refusing to adopt new skills, the rest of us will still be building it tomorrow.
IT seems easier to teach semi conductor fab to MEs than thermo to EEs and o-chem to MEs than correct transport to CHEMEs.
And all of us polished our CS skills, uhh, over one long weekend in 9th grade.....</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123738</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>DieByWire</author>
	<datestamp>1265990220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><nobr> <wbr></nobr></p><div class="quote"><p>...but do they change the handling of the car at all?</p></div><p>Counter-rotating flywheels (and/or orienting the flywheel axis vertically) would probably minimize the precession effects. Weight distribution and complexity are probably larger factors.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>...but do they change the handling of the car at all ? Counter-rotating flywheels ( and/or orienting the flywheel axis vertically ) would probably minimize the precession effects .
Weight distribution and complexity are probably larger factors .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> ...but do they change the handling of the car at all?Counter-rotating flywheels (and/or orienting the flywheel axis vertically) would probably minimize the precession effects.
Weight distribution and complexity are probably larger factors.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123696</id>
	<title>Idiocracy</title>
	<author>CmdrChaos</author>
	<datestamp>1265989800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>This sounds and looks like something out of idiocracy.  To bad it doesn't have monster tires</htmltext>
<tokenext>This sounds and looks like something out of idiocracy .
To bad it does n't have monster tires</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This sounds and looks like something out of idiocracy.
To bad it doesn't have monster tires</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123914</id>
	<title>safety ?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265991720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ok, so we have lets say 100 kg flywheel rotating at 40,000 rpm.<br>and we crash.<br>something hits the flywheel, likely destroying bearings as well.<br>what will happen ?</p><p>I'm not sure, but I don't think this will end good.</p><p>did you heard about lightened and not properly balanced engine flywheels ? I did. they could explode, and in cars with transverse engine layout shrapnels could even kill the driver.<br>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSFA0ufNS\_k</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ok , so we have lets say 100 kg flywheel rotating at 40,000 rpm.and we crash.something hits the flywheel , likely destroying bearings as well.what will happen ? I 'm not sure , but I do n't think this will end good.did you heard about lightened and not properly balanced engine flywheels ?
I did .
they could explode , and in cars with transverse engine layout shrapnels could even kill the driver.http : //www.youtube.com/watch ? v = QSFA0ufNS \ _k</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ok, so we have lets say 100 kg flywheel rotating at 40,000 rpm.and we crash.something hits the flywheel, likely destroying bearings as well.what will happen ?I'm not sure, but I don't think this will end good.did you heard about lightened and not properly balanced engine flywheels ?
I did.
they could explode, and in cars with transverse engine layout shrapnels could even kill the driver.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSFA0ufNS\_k</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123672</id>
	<title>What they don't tell you</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265989560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The flywheel's attached to the crankshaft...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The flywheel 's attached to the crankshaft.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The flywheel's attached to the crankshaft...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125260</id>
	<title>Re:sounds familiar</title>
	<author>Dahamma</author>
	<datestamp>1266051780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hmm, doesn't sound like it at all to me...</p><p>That car was a gas turbine engine powering a an electric motor with the flywheel assisting the same motor.  This one is a traditional Porsche flat 6 driving the rear wheels with a braking-powered flywheel occasionally driving the front.  All cars have flywheels, that doesn't mean all cars are alike.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hmm , does n't sound like it at all to me...That car was a gas turbine engine powering a an electric motor with the flywheel assisting the same motor .
This one is a traditional Porsche flat 6 driving the rear wheels with a braking-powered flywheel occasionally driving the front .
All cars have flywheels , that does n't mean all cars are alike .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hmm, doesn't sound like it at all to me...That car was a gas turbine engine powering a an electric motor with the flywheel assisting the same motor.
This one is a traditional Porsche flat 6 driving the rear wheels with a braking-powered flywheel occasionally driving the front.
All cars have flywheels, that doesn't mean all cars are alike.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123652</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31133408</id>
	<title>wow</title>
	<author>Phoghat</author>
	<datestamp>1266144660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Ein Blitz, eine Wolke von Staub und ein herzliches HALLO Ho Silver

"the mark of the intellectual is anyone while hearing the "William Tell Overture" doesn't think of the Lone Ranger"</htmltext>
<tokenext>Ein Blitz , eine Wolke von Staub und ein herzliches HALLO Ho Silver " the mark of the intellectual is anyone while hearing the " William Tell Overture " does n't think of the Lone Ranger "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ein Blitz, eine Wolke von Staub und ein herzliches HALLO Ho Silver

"the mark of the intellectual is anyone while hearing the "William Tell Overture" doesn't think of the Lone Ranger"</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124492</id>
	<title>Mechanical Hybrids</title>
	<author>nido</author>
	<datestamp>1265997900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>... A few years ago I heard about Tom Kasmer's hydraulic transmission. He calls it the <a href="http://www.hydristor.com/" title="hydristor.com">Hydristor</a> [hydristor.com] (also: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydristor" title="wikipedia.org">wikipedia entry</a> [wikipedia.org]).</p><p>Basically, an invention like Kasmer's could be used to turn any car into a hybrid by replacing the transmission. Braking energy is stored in a hydraulic pressure system (the proper name escapes me at the moment).</p><p>While this system from Porsche is interesting, it is not revolutionary.</p><p>The next automotive revolution will be some form of retrofit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... A few years ago I heard about Tom Kasmer 's hydraulic transmission .
He calls it the Hydristor [ hydristor.com ] ( also : wikipedia entry [ wikipedia.org ] ) .Basically , an invention like Kasmer 's could be used to turn any car into a hybrid by replacing the transmission .
Braking energy is stored in a hydraulic pressure system ( the proper name escapes me at the moment ) .While this system from Porsche is interesting , it is not revolutionary.The next automotive revolution will be some form of retrofit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... A few years ago I heard about Tom Kasmer's hydraulic transmission.
He calls it the Hydristor [hydristor.com] (also: wikipedia entry [wikipedia.org]).Basically, an invention like Kasmer's could be used to turn any car into a hybrid by replacing the transmission.
Braking energy is stored in a hydraulic pressure system (the proper name escapes me at the moment).While this system from Porsche is interesting, it is not revolutionary.The next automotive revolution will be some form of retrofit.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125476</id>
	<title>That's Nothing</title>
	<author>mbstone</author>
	<datestamp>1266056640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1562614800/ref=sib\_dp\_pt#reader-link" title="amazon.com">How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive</a> [amazon.com] has added a chapter on how to add on a hamster wheel.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive [ amazon.com ] has added a chapter on how to add on a hamster wheel .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive [amazon.com] has added a chapter on how to add on a hamster wheel.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123946</id>
	<title>Re:I want 2!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265992140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Or 1910s era cool!<br><a href="http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/gyrocars/schilovs.htm" title="pipex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/gyrocars/schilovs.htm</a> [pipex.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Or 1910s era cool ! http : //www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/gyrocars/schilovs.htm [ pipex.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Or 1910s era cool!http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/gyrocars/schilovs.htm [pipex.com]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123488</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125420</id>
	<title>Re:Mass would be a problem</title>
	<author>eagle8635</author>
	<datestamp>1266055140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's true, and why I personally think hybrid sports cars don't generally make a great deal of sense.

However, from what I've been able to find, the Porsche system is apparently lighter than the equivalent battery-based hybrid system, and in a 24 hour endurance race like the one this car will be competing in, efficiency becomes really important, probably more so than being able to overtake in the corners. That's one of the reasons diesel cars do so well at LeMans, even though many of the gasoline-powered cars can corner faster, over the course of 24 hours the efficiency and straight line speed advantages allow them to win.</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's true , and why I personally think hybrid sports cars do n't generally make a great deal of sense .
However , from what I 've been able to find , the Porsche system is apparently lighter than the equivalent battery-based hybrid system , and in a 24 hour endurance race like the one this car will be competing in , efficiency becomes really important , probably more so than being able to overtake in the corners .
That 's one of the reasons diesel cars do so well at LeMans , even though many of the gasoline-powered cars can corner faster , over the course of 24 hours the efficiency and straight line speed advantages allow them to win .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's true, and why I personally think hybrid sports cars don't generally make a great deal of sense.
However, from what I've been able to find, the Porsche system is apparently lighter than the equivalent battery-based hybrid system, and in a 24 hour endurance race like the one this car will be competing in, efficiency becomes really important, probably more so than being able to overtake in the corners.
That's one of the reasons diesel cars do so well at LeMans, even though many of the gasoline-powered cars can corner faster, over the course of 24 hours the efficiency and straight line speed advantages allow them to win.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124836</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124334</id>
	<title>Haven't F1 cars been doing this for a while?</title>
	<author>istartedi</author>
	<datestamp>1265995920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I seem to recall having heard that Formula 1
cars have been doing this for a while.  Obviously
it's just a short power burst.  You can't store much
energy in it without severe weight penalties.</p><p>The advantage of this over an ultracapacitor
is that you keep it all mechanical.  If the car
were already a gas-electric hybrid, you'd probably
rather use an ultracap.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I seem to recall having heard that Formula 1 cars have been doing this for a while .
Obviously it 's just a short power burst .
You ca n't store much energy in it without severe weight penalties.The advantage of this over an ultracapacitor is that you keep it all mechanical .
If the car were already a gas-electric hybrid , you 'd probably rather use an ultracap .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I seem to recall having heard that Formula 1
cars have been doing this for a while.
Obviously
it's just a short power burst.
You can't store much
energy in it without severe weight penalties.The advantage of this over an ultracapacitor
is that you keep it all mechanical.
If the car
were already a gas-electric hybrid, you'd probably
rather use an ultracap.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123502</id>
	<title>A little more info (but not much)</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265988000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/a-rumour-explained/" title="wordpress.com">http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/a-rumour-explained/</a> [wordpress.com]


As this post's title says, it doesn't give much more info.  Essentially it just adds the information that the flywheel system is derived from the Williams F1 Team's KERS (kinetic energy recovery system).</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/a-rumour-explained/ [ wordpress.com ] As this post 's title says , it does n't give much more info .
Essentially it just adds the information that the flywheel system is derived from the Williams F1 Team 's KERS ( kinetic energy recovery system ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/a-rumour-explained/ [wordpress.com]


As this post's title says, it doesn't give much more info.
Essentially it just adds the information that the flywheel system is derived from the Williams F1 Team's KERS (kinetic energy recovery system).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126174</id>
	<title>Re:"Innovative"?</title>
	<author>newcastlejon</author>
	<datestamp>1266068880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>They're also a lot bigger than a Porsche, and with all the extra weight gyroscopic effects aren't really much of an issue.</htmltext>
<tokenext>They 're also a lot bigger than a Porsche , and with all the extra weight gyroscopic effects are n't really much of an issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They're also a lot bigger than a Porsche, and with all the extra weight gyroscopic effects aren't really much of an issue.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125510</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123712</id>
	<title>I foresee...</title>
	<author>Cheerio Boy</author>
	<datestamp>1265989920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>...a fun time for Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond, and James May.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-)</htmltext>
<tokenext>...a fun time for Jeremy Clarkson , Richard Hammond , and James May .
: - )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...a fun time for Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond, and James May.
:-)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125032</id>
	<title>Re:Humor</title>
	<author>wagnerrp</author>
	<datestamp>1266004440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The idea is that you only need a small 30hp or so generator to keep the flywheel spun up and provide enough power for highway cruise.  Then the electric motor handles all your acceleration and breaking.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The idea is that you only need a small 30hp or so generator to keep the flywheel spun up and provide enough power for highway cruise .
Then the electric motor handles all your acceleration and breaking .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The idea is that you only need a small 30hp or so generator to keep the flywheel spun up and provide enough power for highway cruise.
Then the electric motor handles all your acceleration and breaking.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123928</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123960</id>
	<title>What?</title>
	<author>gyrogeerloose</author>
	<datestamp>1265992200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>No mention of the awesome green-light burn-outs soon to be offered to the affluent consumer?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>No mention of the awesome green-light burn-outs soon to be offered to the affluent consumer ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>No mention of the awesome green-light burn-outs soon to be offered to the affluent consumer?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123614</id>
	<title>Porsche...</title>
	<author>Brad1138</author>
	<datestamp>1265989020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpHITx7yRio" title="youtube.com">There is no substitute</a> [youtube.com]</htmltext>
<tokenext>There is no substitute [ youtube.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is no substitute [youtube.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31127566</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>budgenator</author>
	<datestamp>1266081360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the gyro is locked down, which the Williams unit appears to be, it will counter any roll and pitch in the car while having little or no effect on yaw, perhaps it might introduce a perceptible precession during roll or pitch. I'd think for a competent race driver, acclimatization to the system would be fairly quick, it's effects are the same as most chassis designers try to replicate mechanically anyways. Also because the gyro is countering chassis force, that thing better have some hellacious bearings in it for rolling courses. Seems like a gimbaled gyro would have no effect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the gyro is locked down , which the Williams unit appears to be , it will counter any roll and pitch in the car while having little or no effect on yaw , perhaps it might introduce a perceptible precession during roll or pitch .
I 'd think for a competent race driver , acclimatization to the system would be fairly quick , it 's effects are the same as most chassis designers try to replicate mechanically anyways .
Also because the gyro is countering chassis force , that thing better have some hellacious bearings in it for rolling courses .
Seems like a gimbaled gyro would have no effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the gyro is locked down, which the Williams unit appears to be, it will counter any roll and pitch in the car while having little or no effect on yaw, perhaps it might introduce a perceptible precession during roll or pitch.
I'd think for a competent race driver, acclimatization to the system would be fairly quick, it's effects are the same as most chassis designers try to replicate mechanically anyways.
Also because the gyro is countering chassis force, that thing better have some hellacious bearings in it for rolling courses.
Seems like a gimbaled gyro would have no effect.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124698</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>Ihmhi</author>
	<datestamp>1266000300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>what effect does this flywheel have?</p></div><p>Blue sparks shoot out of the wheels, and then you can get ahead of your competitors and shoot a green shell backwards at them.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>what effect does this flywheel have ? Blue sparks shoot out of the wheels , and then you can get ahead of your competitors and shoot a green shell backwards at them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>what effect does this flywheel have?Blue sparks shoot out of the wheels, and then you can get ahead of your competitors and shoot a green shell backwards at them.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125488</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>kf6auf</author>
	<datestamp>1266056880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It depends on the orientation of the axis of the flywheel.  If you try to place the flywheel so that the axis is horizontal, you'll end up with needing to apply a lot of torque in order to turn the vehicle left-right, making it harder to turn.  If you place the flywheel so that the axis is vertical, the amount of torque necessary to flip the vehicle would go up, probably making this a safety feature for SUVs, and would have very little effect on the torque needed to turn the vehicle left-right.

</p><p>The rule with (single-axis) gyroscopes is that the only axis it isn't harder to rotate the whole gyroscope around is the one around which it's already spinning; any non-parallel axis is harder.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It depends on the orientation of the axis of the flywheel .
If you try to place the flywheel so that the axis is horizontal , you 'll end up with needing to apply a lot of torque in order to turn the vehicle left-right , making it harder to turn .
If you place the flywheel so that the axis is vertical , the amount of torque necessary to flip the vehicle would go up , probably making this a safety feature for SUVs , and would have very little effect on the torque needed to turn the vehicle left-right .
The rule with ( single-axis ) gyroscopes is that the only axis it is n't harder to rotate the whole gyroscope around is the one around which it 's already spinning ; any non-parallel axis is harder .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It depends on the orientation of the axis of the flywheel.
If you try to place the flywheel so that the axis is horizontal, you'll end up with needing to apply a lot of torque in order to turn the vehicle left-right, making it harder to turn.
If you place the flywheel so that the axis is vertical, the amount of torque necessary to flip the vehicle would go up, probably making this a safety feature for SUVs, and would have very little effect on the torque needed to turn the vehicle left-right.
The rule with (single-axis) gyroscopes is that the only axis it isn't harder to rotate the whole gyroscope around is the one around which it's already spinning; any non-parallel axis is harder.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123574</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31129018</id>
	<title>Spectators will like it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266092220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Given that accidents are the most popular aspect of car races, it will be hugely popular when a small imbalance makes the flywheel fly out of the car.<br>And I wonder what they were thinking when they named this "911"...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that accidents are the most popular aspect of car races , it will be hugely popular when a small imbalance makes the flywheel fly out of the car.And I wonder what they were thinking when they named this " 911 " .. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that accidents are the most popular aspect of car races, it will be hugely popular when a small imbalance makes the flywheel fly out of the car.And I wonder what they were thinking when they named this "911"...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126584</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266073080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I am a sanitation engineer for Waste Management Industries. Like MEs that can't get away from their jobs and so choose hobbies similar to their profession, I also like to play with kitchen refuse in my spare time. And the Automated Receptacle Lifter Assembly (ARLA) is a pinnacle of industrial design.</p><p>Pssstt...Social skills include knowing when to stop talkin about your work.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I am a sanitation engineer for Waste Management Industries .
Like MEs that ca n't get away from their jobs and so choose hobbies similar to their profession , I also like to play with kitchen refuse in my spare time .
And the Automated Receptacle Lifter Assembly ( ARLA ) is a pinnacle of industrial design.Pssstt...Social skills include knowing when to stop talkin about your work .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I am a sanitation engineer for Waste Management Industries.
Like MEs that can't get away from their jobs and so choose hobbies similar to their profession, I also like to play with kitchen refuse in my spare time.
And the Automated Receptacle Lifter Assembly (ARLA) is a pinnacle of industrial design.Pssstt...Social skills include knowing when to stop talkin about your work.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124808</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124550</id>
	<title>Re:Porsche Hybrid</title>
	<author>evanbd</author>
	<datestamp>1265998560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Furthermore, they won't save a lot of gas when driving at constant and/or high speeds, such as highway or a race track.</p></div><p>Clearly you missed part of the summary: this is not a NASCAR race.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Furthermore , they wo n't save a lot of gas when driving at constant and/or high speeds , such as highway or a race track.Clearly you missed part of the summary : this is not a NASCAR race .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Furthermore, they won't save a lot of gas when driving at constant and/or high speeds, such as highway or a race track.Clearly you missed part of the summary: this is not a NASCAR race.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123810</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126360</id>
	<title>Re:Porsche Hybrid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266070740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Oh, and I believe there are quite a lot of people driving 911s to work. The more normal street versions are intended to be useable for daily driving - though of course, they're not optimized for it.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , and I believe there are quite a lot of people driving 911s to work .
The more normal street versions are intended to be useable for daily driving - though of course , they 're not optimized for it .
; )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, and I believe there are quite a lot of people driving 911s to work.
The more normal street versions are intended to be useable for daily driving - though of course, they're not optimized for it.
;)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123810</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31133370</id>
	<title>Take a shave!</title>
	<author>NSN A392-99-964-5927</author>
	<datestamp>1266143880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Valentino Rossi can ride and piss all over your GT3 Porsche. Buddy Carl Foggerty the "Blackburn Bullet" will eat you for breakfast on a bike. The only person that is almost 31337 can break the world record is my beautiful baby Sabine <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine\_Schmitz" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine\_Schmitz</a> [wikipedia.org] she is ready for the world record. that woman is awesome and she can put cars through their paces and you WILL PASS  out as she knows how to pull pull devastating G-Forces more than a tornado jet.Sabine Rocks

*hugs*</htmltext>
<tokenext>Valentino Rossi can ride and piss all over your GT3 Porsche .
Buddy Carl Foggerty the " Blackburn Bullet " will eat you for breakfast on a bike .
The only person that is almost 31337 can break the world record is my beautiful baby Sabine http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine \ _Schmitz [ wikipedia.org ] she is ready for the world record .
that woman is awesome and she can put cars through their paces and you WILL PASS out as she knows how to pull pull devastating G-Forces more than a tornado jet.Sabine Rocks * hugs *</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Valentino Rossi can ride and piss all over your GT3 Porsche.
Buddy Carl Foggerty the "Blackburn Bullet" will eat you for breakfast on a bike.
The only person that is almost 31337 can break the world record is my beautiful baby Sabine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine\_Schmitz [wikipedia.org] she is ready for the world record.
that woman is awesome and she can put cars through their paces and you WILL PASS  out as she knows how to pull pull devastating G-Forces more than a tornado jet.Sabine Rocks

*hugs*</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124036</id>
	<title>Re:Porsche Hybrid</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265992860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; By the way, most of not all hybrids license technology from Toyota for their operation.<br>&gt; Can't wait to see what faulty brakes or accidental acceleration on a Porsche 911 looks like.</p><p>Very unlike a Toyota, I think.</p><p>Note: This is a flywheel hybrid, not a battery hybrid.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; By the way , most of not all hybrids license technology from Toyota for their operation. &gt; Ca n't wait to see what faulty brakes or accidental acceleration on a Porsche 911 looks like.Very unlike a Toyota , I think.Note : This is a flywheel hybrid , not a battery hybrid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; By the way, most of not all hybrids license technology from Toyota for their operation.&gt; Can't wait to see what faulty brakes or accidental acceleration on a Porsche 911 looks like.Very unlike a Toyota, I think.Note: This is a flywheel hybrid, not a battery hybrid.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124194</id>
	<title>Re:Will Porsche succeed where KERS failed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265994600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The system didn't fail, it was pulled because ONLY McLaren and Ferrari could afford it.  Several races had positions decided simply because of their KERS power.  Of course they realized if they all had it, there would be no gain...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The system did n't fail , it was pulled because ONLY McLaren and Ferrari could afford it .
Several races had positions decided simply because of their KERS power .
Of course they realized if they all had it , there would be no gain.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The system didn't fail, it was pulled because ONLY McLaren and Ferrari could afford it.
Several races had positions decided simply because of their KERS power.
Of course they realized if they all had it, there would be no gain...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126140</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>newcastlejon</author>
	<datestamp>1266068040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Speaking as an ME who switched from CS I agree wholeheartedly with the social skills part of your comment. You're also spot on with computers being a means to an end but that might have something to do with the computer part in CS, what? But when it comes to Porsches it's all a matter of taste; personally I think the shape is pleasant enough but the shape isn't designed by an ME. It's a nice bit of design but the pinnacle you're talking about is getting really rear-engined cars to handle as well as they do.</p><p>When people say industrial design these days they usually mean the outside appearance (I'm looking at <i>you</i>, Apple). MEs are the ones who actually make things work, usually involving a lot of sniggering at the faaarr-out and totally impractical designs that designers come up with. Rather the same as the difference between the ridiculous crap that's paraded down "fashion" catwalks and what people actually wear.</p><p>As an aside, for some reason I noticed the MEs drink <i>a lot</i> more than CS peeps, but that might be down to the perceived social deficiencies.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Speaking as an ME who switched from CS I agree wholeheartedly with the social skills part of your comment .
You 're also spot on with computers being a means to an end but that might have something to do with the computer part in CS , what ?
But when it comes to Porsches it 's all a matter of taste ; personally I think the shape is pleasant enough but the shape is n't designed by an ME .
It 's a nice bit of design but the pinnacle you 're talking about is getting really rear-engined cars to handle as well as they do.When people say industrial design these days they usually mean the outside appearance ( I 'm looking at you , Apple ) .
MEs are the ones who actually make things work , usually involving a lot of sniggering at the faaarr-out and totally impractical designs that designers come up with .
Rather the same as the difference between the ridiculous crap that 's paraded down " fashion " catwalks and what people actually wear.As an aside , for some reason I noticed the MEs drink a lot more than CS peeps , but that might be down to the perceived social deficiencies .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Speaking as an ME who switched from CS I agree wholeheartedly with the social skills part of your comment.
You're also spot on with computers being a means to an end but that might have something to do with the computer part in CS, what?
But when it comes to Porsches it's all a matter of taste; personally I think the shape is pleasant enough but the shape isn't designed by an ME.
It's a nice bit of design but the pinnacle you're talking about is getting really rear-engined cars to handle as well as they do.When people say industrial design these days they usually mean the outside appearance (I'm looking at you, Apple).
MEs are the ones who actually make things work, usually involving a lot of sniggering at the faaarr-out and totally impractical designs that designers come up with.
Rather the same as the difference between the ridiculous crap that's paraded down "fashion" catwalks and what people actually wear.As an aside, for some reason I noticed the MEs drink a lot more than CS peeps, but that might be down to the perceived social deficiencies.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31129642</id>
	<title>Re:Mechanical Hybrids</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266053640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>ugh not new at all. research into series, parallel, sequential hydrualic drive trains has ugh resulted in uhh almost all industrial vehicle power systems. Tom Kasmer is only a pioneer to one ignorant person [you]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>ugh not new at all .
research into series , parallel , sequential hydrualic drive trains has ugh resulted in uhh almost all industrial vehicle power systems .
Tom Kasmer is only a pioneer to one ignorant person [ you ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>ugh not new at all.
research into series, parallel, sequential hydrualic drive trains has ugh resulted in uhh almost all industrial vehicle power systems.
Tom Kasmer is only a pioneer to one ignorant person [you]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125826</id>
	<title>translation:</title>
	<author>rarel</author>
	<datestamp>1266062640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Porsche's latest supercar will use the same 911 production platform available to consumers today, with a few race-ready features</p></div></blockquote><p>
Translation: They just needed to fit the accelerator gear with Toyota-built pedals and now they're all set.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Porsche 's latest supercar will use the same 911 production platform available to consumers today , with a few race-ready features Translation : They just needed to fit the accelerator gear with Toyota-built pedals and now they 're all set .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Porsche's latest supercar will use the same 911 production platform available to consumers today, with a few race-ready features
Translation: They just needed to fit the accelerator gear with Toyota-built pedals and now they're all set.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123580</id>
	<title>awful typo in article</title>
	<author>BeaverCleaver</author>
	<datestamp>1265988780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>From TFA: "This generator stores energy each time the vehicle breaks..."</p><p>If I had a Porsche 911 I wouldn't want to damage the thing to use the hybrid feature. Do they perhaps mean "brakes"?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>From TFA : " This generator stores energy each time the vehicle breaks... " If I had a Porsche 911 I would n't want to damage the thing to use the hybrid feature .
Do they perhaps mean " brakes " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>From TFA: "This generator stores energy each time the vehicle breaks..."If I had a Porsche 911 I wouldn't want to damage the thing to use the hybrid feature.
Do they perhaps mean "brakes"?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31127952</id>
	<title>Re:Mechanical Hybrids</title>
	<author>torkus</author>
	<datestamp>1266084300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I remember reading that UPS was looking into this for their delivery trucks.  Personally I think USPS would have even more use - those idiots literally drive from house to house in my area including starting and turning off the car to get out and walk up my lawn.  Seriously...it's the dumbest thing i've seen in a very long time.</p><p>Anyhow, delivery vehicles where there's plenty of available space, not as much concern about weight, and lots of stop-and-go driving this seems like a great idea.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I remember reading that UPS was looking into this for their delivery trucks .
Personally I think USPS would have even more use - those idiots literally drive from house to house in my area including starting and turning off the car to get out and walk up my lawn .
Seriously...it 's the dumbest thing i 've seen in a very long time.Anyhow , delivery vehicles where there 's plenty of available space , not as much concern about weight , and lots of stop-and-go driving this seems like a great idea .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I remember reading that UPS was looking into this for their delivery trucks.
Personally I think USPS would have even more use - those idiots literally drive from house to house in my area including starting and turning off the car to get out and walk up my lawn.
Seriously...it's the dumbest thing i've seen in a very long time.Anyhow, delivery vehicles where there's plenty of available space, not as much concern about weight, and lots of stop-and-go driving this seems like a great idea.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123594</id>
	<title>Cospinicay!</title>
	<author>halcyon1234</author>
	<datestamp>1265988900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>PORSCHE DID 911!!!!!!!!!!!!!</htmltext>
<tokenext>PORSCHE DID 911 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
!</tokentext>
<sentencetext>PORSCHE DID 911!!!!!!!!!!!!
!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125510</id>
	<title>"Innovative"?</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266057420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>and an innovative flywheel system that stores kinetic energy from braking</p></div><p>Wow, then about every subway train and bus in my city must be from the future, because they had flywheels for at least a decade.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>and an innovative flywheel system that stores kinetic energy from brakingWow , then about every subway train and bus in my city must be from the future , because they had flywheels for at least a decade .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>and an innovative flywheel system that stores kinetic energy from brakingWow, then about every subway train and bus in my city must be from the future, because they had flywheels for at least a decade.
	</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125392</id>
	<title>Re:Counter-rotating flywheels would cancel it</title>
	<author>eelke\_klein</author>
	<datestamp>1266054720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Two counter rotating flywheels will NOT cancel out each other! Only the reaction (precessional is the official term i think in english) forces are canceled out!</p><p>Let's say the three axis are x, y and z. Then when you have a single flywheel which is rotating about the x axis it will resist rotating along the other axis and while react with a force that is perpedular to the the rotation and the force. When adding  a second counter rotating flywheel it will cause a reaction force opposite to that of the first flywheel so the reaction forces are canceled out. However the combination still resist rotating along any axis other then it's axis of rotation.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Two counter rotating flywheels will NOT cancel out each other !
Only the reaction ( precessional is the official term i think in english ) forces are canceled out ! Let 's say the three axis are x , y and z. Then when you have a single flywheel which is rotating about the x axis it will resist rotating along the other axis and while react with a force that is perpedular to the the rotation and the force .
When adding a second counter rotating flywheel it will cause a reaction force opposite to that of the first flywheel so the reaction forces are canceled out .
However the combination still resist rotating along any axis other then it 's axis of rotation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Two counter rotating flywheels will NOT cancel out each other!
Only the reaction (precessional is the official term i think in english) forces are canceled out!Let's say the three axis are x, y and z. Then when you have a single flywheel which is rotating about the x axis it will resist rotating along the other axis and while react with a force that is perpedular to the the rotation and the force.
When adding  a second counter rotating flywheel it will cause a reaction force opposite to that of the first flywheel so the reaction forces are canceled out.
However the combination still resist rotating along any axis other then it's axis of rotation.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124124</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>Facegarden</author>
	<datestamp>1265993880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Flywheels have been used to store energy for ages, but do they change the handling of the car at all?<br>Boats can have gyroscopic roll stabilizers, but what effect does this flywheel have?</p></div><p>Well, if the axis is vertical, the car would turn just fine. It wouldn't want to flip over, but i think that's alright with most people involved.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flywheels have been used to store energy for ages , but do they change the handling of the car at all ? Boats can have gyroscopic roll stabilizers , but what effect does this flywheel have ? Well , if the axis is vertical , the car would turn just fine .
It would n't want to flip over , but i think that 's alright with most people involved .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flywheels have been used to store energy for ages, but do they change the handling of the car at all?Boats can have gyroscopic roll stabilizers, but what effect does this flywheel have?Well, if the axis is vertical, the car would turn just fine.
It wouldn't want to flip over, but i think that's alright with most people involved.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31127150</id>
	<title>Re:Hello? News for NERDS.</title>
	<author>zmaragdus</author>
	<datestamp>1266078480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And a bunch of us (well, technically I'm an EE, but still a fan od Porsche) who do like Porsche consider their latest two hybrids (see also the Cayenne) to be sort of a "sell out." Then again, they've been breaking from their expected image a lot in the past decade: an SUV, two hybrids, a {gasp} 4-door (see Panamera).Whatever is this world coming to?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And a bunch of us ( well , technically I 'm an EE , but still a fan od Porsche ) who do like Porsche consider their latest two hybrids ( see also the Cayenne ) to be sort of a " sell out .
" Then again , they 've been breaking from their expected image a lot in the past decade : an SUV , two hybrids , a { gasp } 4-door ( see Panamera ) .Whatever is this world coming to ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And a bunch of us (well, technically I'm an EE, but still a fan od Porsche) who do like Porsche consider their latest two hybrids (see also the Cayenne) to be sort of a "sell out.
" Then again, they've been breaking from their expected image a lot in the past decade: an SUV, two hybrids, a {gasp} 4-door (see Panamera).Whatever is this world coming to?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126046</id>
	<title>Re:I want 2!!!!</title>
	<author>MichaelSmith</author>
	<datestamp>1266066240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>As a fan of the Stainless Steel Rat I want to see flywheel powered motorbikes.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As a fan of the Stainless Steel Rat I want to see flywheel powered motorbikes .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As a fan of the Stainless Steel Rat I want to see flywheel powered motorbikes.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126082</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266067020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think a 40 000 rpm flywheel rotating at full speed when entering a corner would have some effect, but then it's not the point: the point is out of a turn to "empty" your flywheel by getting it's stored energy back to accelerate, so that when you enter the next corner the flywheel is not rotating anymore (so it hardly has any effect besides the weight) and then you brake and it starts rotating again.  But, yup, I wonder too how it "feels".  It sure would feel different than my road-legal 911<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think a 40 000 rpm flywheel rotating at full speed when entering a corner would have some effect , but then it 's not the point : the point is out of a turn to " empty " your flywheel by getting it 's stored energy back to accelerate , so that when you enter the next corner the flywheel is not rotating anymore ( so it hardly has any effect besides the weight ) and then you brake and it starts rotating again .
But , yup , I wonder too how it " feels " .
It sure would feel different than my road-legal 911 : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think a 40 000 rpm flywheel rotating at full speed when entering a corner would have some effect, but then it's not the point: the point is out of a turn to "empty" your flywheel by getting it's stored energy back to accelerate, so that when you enter the next corner the flywheel is not rotating anymore (so it hardly has any effect besides the weight) and then you brake and it starts rotating again.
But, yup, I wonder too how it "feels".
It sure would feel different than my road-legal 911 :)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124538</id>
	<title>Re: No KERS in F1 in 2010</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265998440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>KERS was mostly a disaster in 2009 by allowing teams to use it, but not mandating it.  At the end of the season, all teams agreed to abandon the technology. The BMW F1 team bet heavily on KERS and designed their car around it. After challenging for the championship in 2008, their 2009 campaign was so poor, they quit F1 altogether.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>KERS was mostly a disaster in 2009 by allowing teams to use it , but not mandating it .
At the end of the season , all teams agreed to abandon the technology .
The BMW F1 team bet heavily on KERS and designed their car around it .
After challenging for the championship in 2008 , their 2009 campaign was so poor , they quit F1 altogether .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>KERS was mostly a disaster in 2009 by allowing teams to use it, but not mandating it.
At the end of the season, all teams agreed to abandon the technology.
The BMW F1 team bet heavily on KERS and designed their car around it.
After challenging for the championship in 2008, their 2009 campaign was so poor, they quit F1 altogether.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123492</id>
	<title>but....</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265987940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>but does it run linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>but does it run linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>but does it run linux?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123574</id>
	<title>Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>nicknamenotavailable</author>
	<datestamp>1265988720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flywheels have been used to store energy for ages, but do they change the handling of the car at all?<br>Boats can have gyroscopic roll stabilizers, but what effect does this flywheel have?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Flywheels have been used to store energy for ages , but do they change the handling of the car at all ? Boats can have gyroscopic roll stabilizers , but what effect does this flywheel have ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flywheels have been used to store energy for ages, but do they change the handling of the car at all?Boats can have gyroscopic roll stabilizers, but what effect does this flywheel have?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124068</id>
	<title>Top Gear</title>
	<author>JoshWurzel</author>
	<datestamp>1265993220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Richard Hammond is gonna have a field day with this.  I can't wait to see it on TG next season.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Richard Hammond is gon na have a field day with this .
I ca n't wait to see it on TG next season .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Richard Hammond is gonna have a field day with this.
I can't wait to see it on TG next season.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123742</id>
	<title>Re:Gyroscopic effect?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265990220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the flywheel is horizontal, it will strongly resist roll (where a car's weight moves to the outer wheels on a corner), and may improve handling significantly.</p><p>If the flywheel is vertical (very unlikely), the car will resist turning and have very poor handling.</p><p>Conservation of angular momentum is the same force that makes bikes easy to balance (slow to fall over) when they're moving.</p><p>With a spinning wheel, rotating the axis (axle) towards the plane of the wheel is hard, but rotating around the axis offers no resistance.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angular\_momentum" title="wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">More reading.</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the flywheel is horizontal , it will strongly resist roll ( where a car 's weight moves to the outer wheels on a corner ) , and may improve handling significantly.If the flywheel is vertical ( very unlikely ) , the car will resist turning and have very poor handling.Conservation of angular momentum is the same force that makes bikes easy to balance ( slow to fall over ) when they 're moving.With a spinning wheel , rotating the axis ( axle ) towards the plane of the wheel is hard , but rotating around the axis offers no resistance.More reading .
[ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the flywheel is horizontal, it will strongly resist roll (where a car's weight moves to the outer wheels on a corner), and may improve handling significantly.If the flywheel is vertical (very unlikely), the car will resist turning and have very poor handling.Conservation of angular momentum is the same force that makes bikes easy to balance (slow to fall over) when they're moving.With a spinning wheel, rotating the axis (axle) towards the plane of the wheel is hard, but rotating around the axis offers no resistance.More reading.
[wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31125736</id>
	<title>Flywheel? What position?</title>
	<author>rew</author>
	<datestamp>1266061080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If you put the flywheel with the axis horizontal, the car will resist turning. My guess is that this doesn't work so well for a racing car....</p><p>If you put the flywheel with the axis vertical, the car would lift its inside wheels when cornering a banked turn, right?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If you put the flywheel with the axis horizontal , the car will resist turning .
My guess is that this does n't work so well for a racing car....If you put the flywheel with the axis vertical , the car would lift its inside wheels when cornering a banked turn , right ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If you put the flywheel with the axis horizontal, the car will resist turning.
My guess is that this doesn't work so well for a racing car....If you put the flywheel with the axis vertical, the car would lift its inside wheels when cornering a banked turn, right?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124824</id>
	<title>HOV Lane Sticker?</title>
	<author>ukemike</author>
	<datestamp>1266001800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I wanna know if I can get one of those stickers for the carpool lane with the 911 GT3 Hybrid.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I wan na know if I can get one of those stickers for the carpool lane with the 911 GT3 Hybrid .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I wanna know if I can get one of those stickers for the carpool lane with the 911 GT3 Hybrid.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31127172</id>
	<title>Re:Not true ...</title>
	<author>Joce640k</author>
	<datestamp>1266078660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Physics 101: Energy = m * v^2</p><p>ie. mass is far less important then velocity (RPM in the case of a flywheel).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Physics 101 : Energy = m * v ^ 2ie .
mass is far less important then velocity ( RPM in the case of a flywheel ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Physics 101: Energy = m * v^2ie.
mass is far less important then velocity (RPM in the case of a flywheel).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123810</id>
	<title>Porsche Hybrid</title>
	<author>Stan Vassilev</author>
	<datestamp>1265990820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hybrids, being more complex vehicles than classic cars or pure electric vehicles don't handle as easily, and might not perform as well in fast or extreme conditions. Furthermore, they won't save a lot of gas when driving at constant and/or high speeds, such as highway or a race track.</p><p>But they are really good in urban environment when you need to often slow down and speed up to accommodate heavy traffic, as then the brake mechanism kicks in saving energy and and the electric engines is used in those short runs/speedups that are so frequent in city driving conditions. It's perfect for taking the kids, going shopping, commute to work and back, <em> <strong>you know things you always wanted to do with your Porsche 911.</strong> </em></p><p>By the way, most of not all hybrids license technology from Toyota for their operation. Can't wait to see what faulty brakes or accidental acceleration on a Porsche 911 looks like.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hybrids , being more complex vehicles than classic cars or pure electric vehicles do n't handle as easily , and might not perform as well in fast or extreme conditions .
Furthermore , they wo n't save a lot of gas when driving at constant and/or high speeds , such as highway or a race track.But they are really good in urban environment when you need to often slow down and speed up to accommodate heavy traffic , as then the brake mechanism kicks in saving energy and and the electric engines is used in those short runs/speedups that are so frequent in city driving conditions .
It 's perfect for taking the kids , going shopping , commute to work and back , you know things you always wanted to do with your Porsche 911 .
By the way , most of not all hybrids license technology from Toyota for their operation .
Ca n't wait to see what faulty brakes or accidental acceleration on a Porsche 911 looks like .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hybrids, being more complex vehicles than classic cars or pure electric vehicles don't handle as easily, and might not perform as well in fast or extreme conditions.
Furthermore, they won't save a lot of gas when driving at constant and/or high speeds, such as highway or a race track.But they are really good in urban environment when you need to often slow down and speed up to accommodate heavy traffic, as then the brake mechanism kicks in saving energy and and the electric engines is used in those short runs/speedups that are so frequent in city driving conditions.
It's perfect for taking the kids, going shopping, commute to work and back,  you know things you always wanted to do with your Porsche 911.
By the way, most of not all hybrids license technology from Toyota for their operation.
Can't wait to see what faulty brakes or accidental acceleration on a Porsche 911 looks like.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123624</id>
	<title>can a burst of speed</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265989140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>be measured in horsepower?   From article summary "uses it to provide a 160 horsepower burst of speed."</htmltext>
<tokenext>be measured in horsepower ?
From article summary " uses it to provide a 160 horsepower burst of speed .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>be measured in horsepower?
From article summary "uses it to provide a 160 horsepower burst of speed.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123928</id>
	<title>Humor</title>
	<author>ComfortablyAmbiguous</author>
	<datestamp>1265991960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I get a chuckle from the cnn article on this topic, that states you could use the extra 160 hp when you needed to pass somebody (in case the standard 480 horses isn't enough)</htmltext>
<tokenext>I get a chuckle from the cnn article on this topic , that states you could use the extra 160 hp when you needed to pass somebody ( in case the standard 480 horses is n't enough )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I get a chuckle from the cnn article on this topic, that states you could use the extra 160 hp when you needed to pass somebody (in case the standard 480 horses isn't enough)</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31124076</id>
	<title>Counter-rotating flywheels would cancel it</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265993220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If there's enough gyroscopic effect to matter, then the normal engineering way to deal with it would be to use a pair of flywheels rotating in opposite directions. Then, you can think of it either way, the gyroscopic effects cancel... or the net angular momentum of the two flywheels is zero so there is no gyroscopic effect.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If there 's enough gyroscopic effect to matter , then the normal engineering way to deal with it would be to use a pair of flywheels rotating in opposite directions .
Then , you can think of it either way , the gyroscopic effects cancel... or the net angular momentum of the two flywheels is zero so there is no gyroscopic effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If there's enough gyroscopic effect to matter, then the normal engineering way to deal with it would be to use a pair of flywheels rotating in opposite directions.
Then, you can think of it either way, the gyroscopic effects cancel... or the net angular momentum of the two flywheels is zero so there is no gyroscopic effect.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123800</id>
	<title>Front wheel drive?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265990760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In a race car???</htmltext>
<tokenext>In a race car ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In a race car??
?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31126498</id>
	<title>Re:Will Porsche succeed where KERS failed?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266072300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It wasn't a problem with the KERS itself, but the rules/restrictions placed on them.  I'd imagine that once you have the system in the car, turning it up to higher levels of storage and output would add very little new bulk.  Since they weren't required, they wanted KERS cars and non-KERS cars to be equal in performance.  If you should, in theory, have very similar (or even a little better) lap times and less new gadgets to break, why bother spending the time and money to work on it?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It was n't a problem with the KERS itself , but the rules/restrictions placed on them .
I 'd imagine that once you have the system in the car , turning it up to higher levels of storage and output would add very little new bulk .
Since they were n't required , they wanted KERS cars and non-KERS cars to be equal in performance .
If you should , in theory , have very similar ( or even a little better ) lap times and less new gadgets to break , why bother spending the time and money to work on it ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It wasn't a problem with the KERS itself, but the rules/restrictions placed on them.
I'd imagine that once you have the system in the car, turning it up to higher levels of storage and output would add very little new bulk.
Since they weren't required, they wanted KERS cars and non-KERS cars to be equal in performance.
If you should, in theory, have very similar (or even a little better) lap times and less new gadgets to break, why bother spending the time and money to work on it?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_13_020209.31123630</id>
	<title>911?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265989200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Is it the memory of that incident already forgotten?</p><p>At least that's what I thought immediately upon seeing the subject.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Is it the memory of that incident already forgotten ? At least that 's what I thought immediately upon seeing the subject .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Is it the memory of that incident already forgotten?At least that's what I thought immediately upon seeing the subject.</sentencetext>
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