<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_12_2316259</id>
	<title>Tiny ARM-Based Sensor System Makes Battery Replacement Obsolete</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1265975160000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>An anonymous reader writes <i>"University of Michigan researchers have crammed an ARM Cortex microcontroller, a thin-film battery, and a solar cell into a package that is only 9 cubic millimeters in volume.  The system is <a href="http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=7520">able to run perpetually by periodically recharging the on-board battery</a> with a solar cell (neglecting physical wear-out of the system)."</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>An anonymous reader writes " University of Michigan researchers have crammed an ARM Cortex microcontroller , a thin-film battery , and a solar cell into a package that is only 9 cubic millimeters in volume .
The system is able to run perpetually by periodically recharging the on-board battery with a solar cell ( neglecting physical wear-out of the system ) .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>An anonymous reader writes "University of Michigan researchers have crammed an ARM Cortex microcontroller, a thin-film battery, and a solar cell into a package that is only 9 cubic millimeters in volume.
The system is able to run perpetually by periodically recharging the on-board battery with a solar cell (neglecting physical wear-out of the system).
"</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121900</id>
	<title>neglecting physical wear-out</title>
	<author>nurb432</author>
	<datestamp>1265978940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>And lack of sunlight....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>And lack of sunlight... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And lack of sunlight....</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123808</id>
	<title>Re:beowulf</title>
	<author>Inner\_Child</author>
	<datestamp>1265990820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm more worried about a potential attack by Replicators.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm more worried about a potential attack by Replicators .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm more worried about a potential attack by Replicators.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122008</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123302</id>
	<title>Smart Dust</title>
	<author>naz404</author>
	<datestamp>1265986440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>looks like this could take Smart Dust closer to viability <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart\_dust" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart\_dust</a> [wikipedia.org]</htmltext>
<tokenext>looks like this could take Smart Dust closer to viability http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart \ _dust [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>looks like this could take Smart Dust closer to viability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart\_dust [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121896</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31126476</id>
	<title>Impressive, but ...</title>
	<author>Ihlosi</author>
	<datestamp>1266072060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>... how does this thing interact (communicate/measure/control) with the outside world, and what are the power demands of that?<p>

Just having a plain uC alone doesn't do much. You'll also want some external circuitry to acutally make measurements (even if it's just some filter for a built-in ADC), communicate with the outside world (hm, could this thing use something similar to RFID when communicating?) and/or change things about the outside world (with a DAC or some output pins).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>... how does this thing interact ( communicate/measure/control ) with the outside world , and what are the power demands of that ?
Just having a plain uC alone does n't do much .
You 'll also want some external circuitry to acutally make measurements ( even if it 's just some filter for a built-in ADC ) , communicate with the outside world ( hm , could this thing use something similar to RFID when communicating ?
) and/or change things about the outside world ( with a DAC or some output pins ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>... how does this thing interact (communicate/measure/control) with the outside world, and what are the power demands of that?
Just having a plain uC alone doesn't do much.
You'll also want some external circuitry to acutally make measurements (even if it's just some filter for a built-in ADC), communicate with the outside world (hm, could this thing use something similar to RFID when communicating?
) and/or change things about the outside world (with a DAC or some output pins).</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122132</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>nicknamenotavailable</author>
	<datestamp>1265980020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Batteries have a limiting lifespan.</p><p>If they used a capacitor instead, this device would run virtually forever.</p><p>Place this in a solid glass marble, and it might last forever too.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Batteries have a limiting lifespan.If they used a capacitor instead , this device would run virtually forever.Place this in a solid glass marble , and it might last forever too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Batteries have a limiting lifespan.If they used a capacitor instead, this device would run virtually forever.Place this in a solid glass marble, and it might last forever too.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121896</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122570</id>
	<title>Re:neglecting physical wear-out</title>
	<author>machine321</author>
	<datestamp>1265982000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, all we have to do is burn the sky, and we can kill all the machines.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , all we have to do is burn the sky , and we can kill all the machines .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, all we have to do is burn the sky, and we can kill all the machines.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121900</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123618</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>lachlan76</author>
	<datestamp>1265989080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I was expecting something more like <a href="http://spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/devices/wireless-sensors-that-live-forever" title="ieee.org">these</a> [ieee.org], which use radioisotopes and ambient vibrations to generate power respectively.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I was expecting something more like these [ ieee.org ] , which use radioisotopes and ambient vibrations to generate power respectively .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I was expecting something more like these [ieee.org], which use radioisotopes and ambient vibrations to generate power respectively.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121896</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122324</id>
	<title>Just like that vibration-powered watch?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265980740000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I saw some vibration-powered wearable devices that made similar claims, as long as you moved as often as your average sedentary person across an average week.  Doesn't seem particularly new...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I saw some vibration-powered wearable devices that made similar claims , as long as you moved as often as your average sedentary person across an average week .
Does n't seem particularly new.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I saw some vibration-powered wearable devices that made similar claims, as long as you moved as often as your average sedentary person across an average week.
Doesn't seem particularly new...</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123436</id>
	<title>Re:Bogus logic</title>
	<author>astar</author>
	<datestamp>1265987520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>maybe, but what came to mind is a belief that a solar cell has a lifespan of say 20 years.  Googling a bit, it seems UV constantly degrades solar cells.  Here is someone working on this.  <a href="http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/02/solar-cell-coating.php" title="treehugger.com">http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/02/solar-cell-coating.php</a> [treehugger.com]</p><p>I can image some greeny reading the headline and thinking he is going to power his house forever on these.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>maybe , but what came to mind is a belief that a solar cell has a lifespan of say 20 years .
Googling a bit , it seems UV constantly degrades solar cells .
Here is someone working on this .
http : //www.treehugger.com/files/2008/02/solar-cell-coating.php [ treehugger.com ] I can image some greeny reading the headline and thinking he is going to power his house forever on these .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>maybe, but what came to mind is a belief that a solar cell has a lifespan of say 20 years.
Googling a bit, it seems UV constantly degrades solar cells.
Here is someone working on this.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/02/solar-cell-coating.php [treehugger.com]I can image some greeny reading the headline and thinking he is going to power his house forever on these.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121928</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31127032</id>
	<title>I think we are missing something....</title>
	<author>datapharmer</author>
	<datestamp>1266077520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I think we may be missing the really amazing part of this; that penny is huge!</htmltext>
<tokenext>I think we may be missing the really amazing part of this ; that penny is huge !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think we may be missing the really amazing part of this; that penny is huge!</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31125014</id>
	<title>Always read the fine print</title>
	<author>Dunbal</author>
	<datestamp>1266004200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>The system is able to run perpetually by periodically recharging the on-board battery with a solar cell (neglecting physical wear-out of the system)."</i></p><p>
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Yeah that's cute. Able to run perpetually neglecting physical wear out of the system. And I have invented a perpetual motion machine, neglecting friction, air resistance and gravity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The system is able to run perpetually by periodically recharging the on-board battery with a solar cell ( neglecting physical wear-out of the system ) .
"       Yeah that 's cute .
Able to run perpetually neglecting physical wear out of the system .
And I have invented a perpetual motion machine , neglecting friction , air resistance and gravity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The system is able to run perpetually by periodically recharging the on-board battery with a solar cell (neglecting physical wear-out of the system).
"
      Yeah that's cute.
Able to run perpetually neglecting physical wear out of the system.
And I have invented a perpetual motion machine, neglecting friction, air resistance and gravity.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122544</id>
	<title>Use a capacitor instead of a battery</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265981880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>For something that small, a capacitor would be better than a battery.  Better utilization of short peak light to stored energy.  Short term high current draw (e.g. for a transmitter). Much (much) longer life than a rechargeable battery.  It could run for hundreds of years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>For something that small , a capacitor would be better than a battery .
Better utilization of short peak light to stored energy .
Short term high current draw ( e.g .
for a transmitter ) .
Much ( much ) longer life than a rechargeable battery .
It could run for hundreds of years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>For something that small, a capacitor would be better than a battery.
Better utilization of short peak light to stored energy.
Short term high current draw (e.g.
for a transmitter).
Much (much) longer life than a rechargeable battery.
It could run for hundreds of years.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122008</id>
	<title>beowulf</title>
	<author>nicknamenotavailable</author>
	<datestamp>1265979420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these.</p><p>Forget that.</p><p>Imagine a Beowulf Swarm of these.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these.Forget that.Imagine a Beowulf Swarm of these .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these.Forget that.Imagine a Beowulf Swarm of these.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122138</id>
	<title>Re:neglecting physical wear-out</title>
	<author>Yosho-sama</author>
	<datestamp>1265980020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>Even without direct sun, solar cells still function, just at reduced capacity, mmmkay?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Even without direct sun , solar cells still function , just at reduced capacity , mmmkay ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Even without direct sun, solar cells still function, just at reduced capacity, mmmkay?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121900</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121910</id>
	<title>So let me see if I get this straight</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265979000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If we ignore wear-out, battery replacement is obsolete.</p><p>Uh hum.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If we ignore wear-out , battery replacement is obsolete.Uh hum .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If we ignore wear-out, battery replacement is obsolete.Uh hum.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31127018</id>
	<title>Re:So let me see if I get this straight</title>
	<author>SageMusings</author>
	<datestamp>1266077340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple seems to have embraced this strategy with all their recent devices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple seems to have embraced this strategy with all their recent devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple seems to have embraced this strategy with all their recent devices.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121910</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123854</id>
	<title>Battery Lifespan is a Factor</title>
	<author>gribbly</author>
	<datestamp>1265991180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Very cool device, but battery life won't be "infinite" or anything close. The article doesn't specify battery chemistry, but it does say that the battery will last "a few years"... and I don't imagine they're replaceable.

This is not to knock - this is a great achievement! Mainstream micro-controller that can power itself in a hassle-free manner? Awesome =]</htmltext>
<tokenext>Very cool device , but battery life wo n't be " infinite " or anything close .
The article does n't specify battery chemistry , but it does say that the battery will last " a few years " ... and I do n't imagine they 're replaceable .
This is not to knock - this is a great achievement !
Mainstream micro-controller that can power itself in a hassle-free manner ?
Awesome = ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Very cool device, but battery life won't be "infinite" or anything close.
The article doesn't specify battery chemistry, but it does say that the battery will last "a few years"... and I don't imagine they're replaceable.
This is not to knock - this is a great achievement!
Mainstream micro-controller that can power itself in a hassle-free manner?
Awesome =]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123588</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>home-electro.com</author>
	<datestamp>1265988840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Why on earth would they want to attach an ARM to a sensor? 8 bit micro is more than enough to service a sensor. And will take a fraction of a power that the ARM requires.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Why on earth would they want to attach an ARM to a sensor ?
8 bit micro is more than enough to service a sensor .
And will take a fraction of a power that the ARM requires .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Why on earth would they want to attach an ARM to a sensor?
8 bit micro is more than enough to service a sensor.
And will take a fraction of a power that the ARM requires.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121896</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121896</id>
	<title>THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265978940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I think this is the first time I've ever actually seen a legitimate claim of a device drawing less power than it can charge from ambient sources.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I think this is the first time I 've ever actually seen a legitimate claim of a device drawing less power than it can charge from ambient sources .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I think this is the first time I've ever actually seen a legitimate claim of a device drawing less power than it can charge from ambient sources.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31126848</id>
	<title>Re:Solar Geek device is doomed to failure.</title>
	<author>jonadab</author>
	<datestamp>1266075660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Masaka is waking!</htmltext>
<tokenext>Masaka is waking !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Masaka is waking!</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122136</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31125498</id>
	<title>The Atmos Clock</title>
	<author>dtmos</author>
	<datestamp>1266057120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>While we're on the subject of timepieces powered by their environment, may I present the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmos\_clock" title="wikipedia.org">Atmos Clock</a> [wikipedia.org], which is powered solely by the small changes in temperature and atmospheric pressure that occur naturally every day.  It was designed by Jean-L&#233;on Reutter in 1928, and over half a million have been sold to date.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>While we 're on the subject of timepieces powered by their environment , may I present the Atmos Clock [ wikipedia.org ] , which is powered solely by the small changes in temperature and atmospheric pressure that occur naturally every day .
It was designed by Jean-L   on Reutter in 1928 , and over half a million have been sold to date .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>While we're on the subject of timepieces powered by their environment, may I present the Atmos Clock [wikipedia.org], which is powered solely by the small changes in temperature and atmospheric pressure that occur naturally every day.
It was designed by Jean-Léon Reutter in 1928, and over half a million have been sold to date.</sentencetext>
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</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31125278</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266052140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Batteries have a limiting lifespan.</p><p>If they used a capacitor instead, this device would run virtually forever.</p><p>Place this in a solid glass marble, and it might last forever too.</p></div></blockquote><p>Note:</p><p>When something is sold as "infinite" or "forever" it doesn't actually have to meet its claims.</p><p>It just has to last longer than the person who paid for it.</p><p>The person who inherits its will think its quaint and let their kids break it.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Batteries have a limiting lifespan.If they used a capacitor instead , this device would run virtually forever.Place this in a solid glass marble , and it might last forever too.Note : When something is sold as " infinite " or " forever " it does n't actually have to meet its claims.It just has to last longer than the person who paid for it.The person who inherits its will think its quaint and let their kids break it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Batteries have a limiting lifespan.If they used a capacitor instead, this device would run virtually forever.Place this in a solid glass marble, and it might last forever too.Note:When something is sold as "infinite" or "forever" it doesn't actually have to meet its claims.It just has to last longer than the person who paid for it.The person who inherits its will think its quaint and let their kids break it.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122132</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122136</id>
	<title>Solar Geek device is doomed to failure.</title>
	<author>Kenja</author>
	<datestamp>1265980020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Funny</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>The Day Star burns us, we dont care that it can recharge our toys. We're still not going outside.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The Day Star burns us , we dont care that it can recharge our toys .
We 're still not going outside .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Day Star burns us, we dont care that it can recharge our toys.
We're still not going outside.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122580</id>
	<title>So what the hell does it DO?</title>
	<author>Ellis D. Tripp</author>
	<datestamp>1265982060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nowhere in TFA does it mention exactly what this "sensor" actually SENSES. It apparently wakes from sleep mode occasionally to "make measurements", but no specifics are given.</p><p>Consisting of only a CPU, battery, and solar cell, the only things it COULD actually measure would be ambient light levels or the battery charge state.</p><p>Without the ability to actually measure something external to itself, and just as importantly, output the results of those measurements somehow, this device seems like it's only function is to generate press releases....</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nowhere in TFA does it mention exactly what this " sensor " actually SENSES .
It apparently wakes from sleep mode occasionally to " make measurements " , but no specifics are given.Consisting of only a CPU , battery , and solar cell , the only things it COULD actually measure would be ambient light levels or the battery charge state.Without the ability to actually measure something external to itself , and just as importantly , output the results of those measurements somehow , this device seems like it 's only function is to generate press releases... .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nowhere in TFA does it mention exactly what this "sensor" actually SENSES.
It apparently wakes from sleep mode occasionally to "make measurements", but no specifics are given.Consisting of only a CPU, battery, and solar cell, the only things it COULD actually measure would be ambient light levels or the battery charge state.Without the ability to actually measure something external to itself, and just as importantly, output the results of those measurements somehow, this device seems like it's only function is to generate press releases....</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121928</id>
	<title>Bogus logic</title>
	<author>DavidR1991</author>
	<datestamp>1265979060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"Neglecting physical wear" when it comes to batteries is like saying "This car runs forever (neglecting its need for fuel)"</p><p>I didn't think the ability to <i>charge</i> batteries was ever the problem - it's the fact that the innards of the batteries themselves slowly degrade and eventually become unusable</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" Neglecting physical wear " when it comes to batteries is like saying " This car runs forever ( neglecting its need for fuel ) " I did n't think the ability to charge batteries was ever the problem - it 's the fact that the innards of the batteries themselves slowly degrade and eventually become unusable</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Neglecting physical wear" when it comes to batteries is like saying "This car runs forever (neglecting its need for fuel)"I didn't think the ability to charge batteries was ever the problem - it's the fact that the innards of the batteries themselves slowly degrade and eventually become unusable</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31126824</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266075600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Right. As others have been suggesting :</p><p>So. A hybrid ? Solarcell + supercap + isotope + Vibecharger(tm)<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:) +<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... nano-Stirling ? I'm sure the advantages would amply compensate the -slight- increase in bulk.</p><p>Since the supercap's  there, might as well add a thermocouple.  Who knows when that little extra (accumulated) might come in handy.</p><p>Oh! And a coiled-up rectenna (is that even possible ?) too. With everything and its dog pouring out really high-freq rf energy, these days.... I remember it can be done for plain old-fashioned radio (AM n FM). It's just a tad non-portable. Unless you have a porter squad, or two, on hand.</p><p>Going nanoscale, a (probably graphene) terahertz version of of rf vamping (as per above). Eventually, or someday, tuned to the wearer's personal spectrum, perhaps ? Naaah! Too scifi-ey! It'll *never* happen.</p><p>Ok. Enough of that. Back to the grindstone - during carnival, which is even more humiliating.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Right .
As others have been suggesting : So .
A hybrid ?
Solarcell + supercap + isotope + Vibecharger ( tm ) : ) + ... nano-Stirling ?
I 'm sure the advantages would amply compensate the -slight- increase in bulk.Since the supercap 's there , might as well add a thermocouple .
Who knows when that little extra ( accumulated ) might come in handy.Oh !
And a coiled-up rectenna ( is that even possible ?
) too .
With everything and its dog pouring out really high-freq rf energy , these days.... I remember it can be done for plain old-fashioned radio ( AM n FM ) .
It 's just a tad non-portable .
Unless you have a porter squad , or two , on hand.Going nanoscale , a ( probably graphene ) terahertz version of of rf vamping ( as per above ) .
Eventually , or someday , tuned to the wearer 's personal spectrum , perhaps ?
Naaah ! Too scifi-ey !
It 'll * never * happen.Ok .
Enough of that .
Back to the grindstone - during carnival , which is even more humiliating .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Right.
As others have been suggesting :So.
A hybrid ?
Solarcell + supercap + isotope + Vibecharger(tm) :) + ... nano-Stirling ?
I'm sure the advantages would amply compensate the -slight- increase in bulk.Since the supercap's  there, might as well add a thermocouple.
Who knows when that little extra (accumulated) might come in handy.Oh!
And a coiled-up rectenna (is that even possible ?
) too.
With everything and its dog pouring out really high-freq rf energy, these days.... I remember it can be done for plain old-fashioned radio (AM n FM).
It's just a tad non-portable.
Unless you have a porter squad, or two, on hand.Going nanoscale, a (probably graphene) terahertz version of of rf vamping (as per above).
Eventually, or someday, tuned to the wearer's personal spectrum, perhaps ?
Naaah! Too scifi-ey!
It'll *never* happen.Ok.
Enough of that.
Back to the grindstone - during carnival, which is even more humiliating.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121972</id>
	<title>Dust computing</title>
	<author>robi5</author>
	<datestamp>1265979240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>We get nearer ambient computing where maybe we buy granular stuff by the pound and spread it on things.</htmltext>
<tokenext>We get nearer ambient computing where maybe we buy granular stuff by the pound and spread it on things .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>We get nearer ambient computing where maybe we buy granular stuff by the pound and spread it on things.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123476</id>
	<title>Re:Bogus logic</title>
	<author>Firehed</author>
	<datestamp>1265987820000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That's more akin to the gas tank no longer functioning, not its emptiness. By the sounds of it, this car analogy is smart enough to drive itself to the nearest gas station and fill up for you (on someone else's dime, no less) when it's running low on gas.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's more akin to the gas tank no longer functioning , not its emptiness .
By the sounds of it , this car analogy is smart enough to drive itself to the nearest gas station and fill up for you ( on someone else 's dime , no less ) when it 's running low on gas .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's more akin to the gas tank no longer functioning, not its emptiness.
By the sounds of it, this car analogy is smart enough to drive itself to the nearest gas station and fill up for you (on someone else's dime, no less) when it's running low on gas.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31125022</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266004200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Because this "ARM" is barely an ARM at all, and is simpler than even the original ARM1 and ARM2, and can't run ARM code, and is aimed at the 8 and 16-bit microcontroller market?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Because this " ARM " is barely an ARM at all , and is simpler than even the original ARM1 and ARM2 , and ca n't run ARM code , and is aimed at the 8 and 16-bit microcontroller market ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because this "ARM" is barely an ARM at all, and is simpler than even the original ARM1 and ARM2, and can't run ARM code, and is aimed at the 8 and 16-bit microcontroller market?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122162</id>
	<title>Re:neglecting physical wear-out</title>
	<author>clarkn0va</author>
	<datestamp>1265980140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And lack of sunlight....</p></div><p>...also extremes of heat, such as is commonly found in fire. Or intense pressure, traumatic impact, acid bath...I could go on. These scientists are such exaggerators!</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And lack of sunlight.......also extremes of heat , such as is commonly found in fire .
Or intense pressure , traumatic impact , acid bath...I could go on .
These scientists are such exaggerators !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And lack of sunlight.......also extremes of heat, such as is commonly found in fire.
Or intense pressure, traumatic impact, acid bath...I could go on.
These scientists are such exaggerators!
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31123660</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>FlyingBishop</author>
	<datestamp>1265989500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Solar cells also have a limited lifespan. I'm skeptical that the battery is necessarily the limiting factor.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Solar cells also have a limited lifespan .
I 'm skeptical that the battery is necessarily the limiting factor .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Solar cells also have a limited lifespan.
I'm skeptical that the battery is necessarily the limiting factor.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31125462</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266056340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I have a Citizen solar rechargeable watch. It's now 15 years old an still working fine. Not infinite but it's lasted 10 years longer than I expected.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I have a Citizen solar rechargeable watch .
It 's now 15 years old an still working fine .
Not infinite but it 's lasted 10 years longer than I expected .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have a Citizen solar rechargeable watch.
It's now 15 years old an still working fine.
Not infinite but it's lasted 10 years longer than I expected.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122672</id>
	<title>PE4!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265982420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">too4, can bHe a Creek, abysmal</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>too4 , can bHe a Creek , abysmal [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>too4, can bHe a Creek, abysmal [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Just like that vibration-powered watch?</title>
	<author>apoc.famine</author>
	<datestamp>1266086160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>My dad has watch built on that premise. It doesn't work well for him, because it's always running a bit fast. Why? He's a barber, so it gets 20x the motion that "your average sedentary person" would give it. <br> <br>I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they didn't build some sort of charging/current regulator into it. It is a normal-sized watch after all. Still, the fact that they either didn't care it ran fast, or didn't test it at full charge 8+ hours at a time is a bit dodgy to me.</htmltext>
<tokenext>My dad has watch built on that premise .
It does n't work well for him , because it 's always running a bit fast .
Why ? He 's a barber , so it gets 20x the motion that " your average sedentary person " would give it .
I guess I should n't be surprised that they did n't build some sort of charging/current regulator into it .
It is a normal-sized watch after all .
Still , the fact that they either did n't care it ran fast , or did n't test it at full charge 8 + hours at a time is a bit dodgy to me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My dad has watch built on that premise.
It doesn't work well for him, because it's always running a bit fast.
Why? He's a barber, so it gets 20x the motion that "your average sedentary person" would give it.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that they didn't build some sort of charging/current regulator into it.
It is a normal-sized watch after all.
Still, the fact that they either didn't care it ran fast, or didn't test it at full charge 8+ hours at a time is a bit dodgy to me.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31121902</id>
	<title>Yeah cool, but</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265978940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>does it run Linux?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>does it run Linux ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>does it run Linux?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122574</id>
	<title>Re:neglecting physical wear-out</title>
	<author>TubeSteak</author>
	<datestamp>1265982000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>And lack of sunlight....</p></div><p>RTFA: "...periodically exposed to reasonable lighting conditions, even indoors"</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>And lack of sunlight....RTFA : " ...periodically exposed to reasonable lighting conditions , even indoors "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>And lack of sunlight....RTFA: "...periodically exposed to reasonable lighting conditions, even indoors"
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31126214</id>
	<title>Re:Use a capacitor instead of a battery</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266069420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Capacitors do not have a lifetime of hundrets of years. The lifetime is very limited.<br>http://www.hans-egebo.dk/Tutorial/electrolytic\_capacitors.htm</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Capacitors do not have a lifetime of hundrets of years .
The lifetime is very limited.http : //www.hans-egebo.dk/Tutorial/electrolytic \ _capacitors.htm</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Capacitors do not have a lifetime of hundrets of years.
The lifetime is very limited.http://www.hans-egebo.dk/Tutorial/electrolytic\_capacitors.htm</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122102</id>
	<title>Cool!</title>
	<author>chickenrob</author>
	<datestamp>1265979840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Just like my 1987 calculator? Am I missing something here?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Just like my 1987 calculator ?
Am I missing something here ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Just like my 1987 calculator?
Am I missing something here?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122564</id>
	<title>Re:Bogus logic</title>
	<author>rockNme2349</author>
	<datestamp>1265981940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>"Neglecting physical wear" when it comes to batteries is like saying "This car runs forever (neglecting its need for fuel)"</p></div><p>No, neglecting physical wear is like saying this car will constantly fuel itself, so it can run forever, until the engine or other components physically break down hundreds of thousands of miles later.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>" Neglecting physical wear " when it comes to batteries is like saying " This car runs forever ( neglecting its need for fuel ) " No , neglecting physical wear is like saying this car will constantly fuel itself , so it can run forever , until the engine or other components physically break down hundreds of thousands of miles later .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"Neglecting physical wear" when it comes to batteries is like saying "This car runs forever (neglecting its need for fuel)"No, neglecting physical wear is like saying this car will constantly fuel itself, so it can run forever, until the engine or other components physically break down hundreds of thousands of miles later.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31126102</id>
	<title>Re:THIS is how you get "infinite" battery life</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1266067380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The real question is - when will Intel announce that their Atom will be soon similarly capable of running at low power levels.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The real question is - when will Intel announce that their Atom will be soon similarly capable of running at low power levels .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The real question is - when will Intel announce that their Atom will be soon similarly capable of running at low power levels.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31125470</id>
	<title>Re:Solar Geek device is doomed to failure.</title>
	<author>Hurricane78</author>
	<datestamp>1266056520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>But that&rsquo;s what this is for: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light\_tube" title="wikipedia.org">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light\_tube</a> [wikipedia.org]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>But that    s what this is for : http : //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light \ _tube [ wikipedia.org ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>But that’s what this is for: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light\_tube [wikipedia.org]</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31125110</id>
	<title>pacemakers?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266092400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'd like to have my pacemaker charged by solar power. The pacemaker is close enough to the skin that if you put a solar panel on it my guess is that in direct sunlight you could get enough energy in to extend battery life significantly.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'd like to have my pacemaker charged by solar power .
The pacemaker is close enough to the skin that if you put a solar panel on it my guess is that in direct sunlight you could get enough energy in to extend battery life significantly .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'd like to have my pacemaker charged by solar power.
The pacemaker is close enough to the skin that if you put a solar panel on it my guess is that in direct sunlight you could get enough energy in to extend battery life significantly.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31128178</id>
	<title>Expensive?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266085920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It costs an ARM, if not a leg.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It costs an ARM , if not a leg .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It costs an ARM, if not a leg.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_2316259.31122268</id>
	<title>Misleading</title>
	<author>Gonoff</author>
	<datestamp>1265980560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>This device is a charging device for low power devices.  Someone doesn't seem to have read the article.  There are plenty of ordinary devices that can be powered by solar panels.  I got a neat little one for Christmas.  It charges my phone and iPod.  The novelty in this device is that it is so good at running small devices that can be left alone for a long time - not that it will make your phone or flashlight into sealed devices.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>This device is a charging device for low power devices .
Someone does n't seem to have read the article .
There are plenty of ordinary devices that can be powered by solar panels .
I got a neat little one for Christmas .
It charges my phone and iPod .
The novelty in this device is that it is so good at running small devices that can be left alone for a long time - not that it will make your phone or flashlight into sealed devices .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This device is a charging device for low power devices.
Someone doesn't seem to have read the article.
There are plenty of ordinary devices that can be powered by solar panels.
I got a neat little one for Christmas.
It charges my phone and iPod.
The novelty in this device is that it is so good at running small devices that can be left alone for a long time - not that it will make your phone or flashlight into sealed devices.</sentencetext>
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