<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_12_192205</id>
	<title>Opera 10.50 Beta Out, With Competitive JavaScript</title>
	<author>kdawson</author>
	<datestamp>1265971140000</datestamp>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.opera.com/browser/next/">Opera has released its 10.5 beta</a> (for Windows only; Linux and Mac coming). Opera calls 10.5 "the fastest browser on earth," but the jury is out on this claim. WebMonkey says that the new beta <a href="http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Is\_Opera\_10DOT5\_the\_\_Fastest\_Browser\_on\_Earth\_\_\_MaybeDOT">feels snappy</a> in their informal testing. Both CNET and ZDNet ran two quick benchmarks that measure JavaScript performance, SunSpider and V8. ZDNet found <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=7247">Opera beating out Chrome in SunSpider</a> but lagging in V8. CNET found <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685\_3-10452519-264.html">Chrome ahead in both tests</a>. What is clear however is that Opera's <a href="http://my.opera.com/core/blog/2009/02/04/carakan">Carakan JavaScript engine</a> has made up much of the ground in the performance wars; The Reg estimates that 10.5 is <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/11/opera/">seven times faster</a> in the JavaScript stakes than Opera's shipping 10.1 release.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera has released its 10.5 beta ( for Windows only ; Linux and Mac coming ) .
Opera calls 10.5 " the fastest browser on earth , " but the jury is out on this claim .
WebMonkey says that the new beta feels snappy in their informal testing .
Both CNET and ZDNet ran two quick benchmarks that measure JavaScript performance , SunSpider and V8 .
ZDNet found Opera beating out Chrome in SunSpider but lagging in V8 .
CNET found Chrome ahead in both tests .
What is clear however is that Opera 's Carakan JavaScript engine has made up much of the ground in the performance wars ; The Reg estimates that 10.5 is seven times faster in the JavaScript stakes than Opera 's shipping 10.1 release .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera has released its 10.5 beta (for Windows only; Linux and Mac coming).
Opera calls 10.5 "the fastest browser on earth," but the jury is out on this claim.
WebMonkey says that the new beta feels snappy in their informal testing.
Both CNET and ZDNet ran two quick benchmarks that measure JavaScript performance, SunSpider and V8.
ZDNet found Opera beating out Chrome in SunSpider but lagging in V8.
CNET found Chrome ahead in both tests.
What is clear however is that Opera's Carakan JavaScript engine has made up much of the ground in the performance wars; The Reg estimates that 10.5 is seven times faster in the JavaScript stakes than Opera's shipping 10.1 release.</sentencetext>
</article>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121248</id>
	<title>Re:Windows only?</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1265975880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>I always admired them for delivering a quality browser simultaneously for most platforms and this time they failed at that</p></div></blockquote><p>
They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version. And they will be faster and better integrated as a result. How is that a "fail"?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I always admired them for delivering a quality browser simultaneously for most platforms and this time they failed at that They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version .
And they will be faster and better integrated as a result .
How is that a " fail " ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I always admired them for delivering a quality browser simultaneously for most platforms and this time they failed at that
They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version.
And they will be faster and better integrated as a result.
How is that a "fail"?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121430</id>
	<title>Re:Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>larry bagina</author>
	<datestamp>1265976840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>for the record, IE also supports VBScript and <a href="http://www.xav.com/perl/Components/Windows/PerlScript.html" title="xav.com" rel="nofollow">PerlScript</a> [xav.com].  Maybe you should spend more time with IE.</htmltext>
<tokenext>for the record , IE also supports VBScript and PerlScript [ xav.com ] .
Maybe you should spend more time with IE .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for the record, IE also supports VBScript and PerlScript [xav.com].
Maybe you should spend more time with IE.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121062</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121830</id>
	<title>LOVE this new version</title>
	<author>CraniumDesigns</author>
	<datestamp>1265978640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>The new Chrome-like minimal UI, the javascript. VERY slick. Loving this new version. Keep up the great work Opera<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</htmltext>
<tokenext>The new Chrome-like minimal UI , the javascript .
VERY slick .
Loving this new version .
Keep up the great work Opera : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The new Chrome-like minimal UI, the javascript.
VERY slick.
Loving this new version.
Keep up the great work Opera :)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31126990</id>
	<title>Re:Worth a look</title>
	<author>LaissezFaire</author>
	<datestamp>1266077100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Opera does appear chome-like -- it's had tabs since at least version 3.0, had "speed dial" (the thumbnails on a new window) before firefox and chrome, had "labels" in the mail client before gmail existed, etc.  It has grabbed some good features back, like actions when typing in the address bar, too -- the other browsers innovate as well.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera does appear chome-like -- it 's had tabs since at least version 3.0 , had " speed dial " ( the thumbnails on a new window ) before firefox and chrome , had " labels " in the mail client before gmail existed , etc .
It has grabbed some good features back , like actions when typing in the address bar , too -- the other browsers innovate as well .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera does appear chome-like -- it's had tabs since at least version 3.0, had "speed dial" (the thumbnails on a new window) before firefox and chrome, had "labels" in the mail client before gmail existed, etc.
It has grabbed some good features back, like actions when typing in the address bar, too -- the other browsers innovate as well.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121196</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31124000</id>
	<title>Re:Worth a look</title>
	<author>sapphire wyvern</author>
	<datestamp>1265992500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I dunno. It's mostly ok but the way the tab strip works bugs me.</p><p>When maximised in Windows, there's a two or three pixel wide strip of title bar between the tabs and the top of the screen, so you don't get "mile-high tabs" like in Chrome. That's really annoying and the devs have done it deliberately - they seem to think that there needs to be grabbable title-bar across the entire width of the window, which I disagree with.</p><p>And, if you double click inside the tab region but not on a tab, it spawns a new tab (which is fine) but if you double click inside the 3-pixel-wide strip it does a window restore instead. Again, this is a reasonable decision - except that there is <em>no</em> visual difference between the narrow strip and the tab region.</p><p>All in all I'd say "needs to copy Chrome's title bar more". The title bar design in Chrome is one of my favourite things about it, despite (or perhaps because?) its utter non-compliance with the usual Windows HIG layout.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I dunno .
It 's mostly ok but the way the tab strip works bugs me.When maximised in Windows , there 's a two or three pixel wide strip of title bar between the tabs and the top of the screen , so you do n't get " mile-high tabs " like in Chrome .
That 's really annoying and the devs have done it deliberately - they seem to think that there needs to be grabbable title-bar across the entire width of the window , which I disagree with.And , if you double click inside the tab region but not on a tab , it spawns a new tab ( which is fine ) but if you double click inside the 3-pixel-wide strip it does a window restore instead .
Again , this is a reasonable decision - except that there is no visual difference between the narrow strip and the tab region.All in all I 'd say " needs to copy Chrome 's title bar more " .
The title bar design in Chrome is one of my favourite things about it , despite ( or perhaps because ?
) its utter non-compliance with the usual Windows HIG layout .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I dunno.
It's mostly ok but the way the tab strip works bugs me.When maximised in Windows, there's a two or three pixel wide strip of title bar between the tabs and the top of the screen, so you don't get "mile-high tabs" like in Chrome.
That's really annoying and the devs have done it deliberately - they seem to think that there needs to be grabbable title-bar across the entire width of the window, which I disagree with.And, if you double click inside the tab region but not on a tab, it spawns a new tab (which is fine) but if you double click inside the 3-pixel-wide strip it does a window restore instead.
Again, this is a reasonable decision - except that there is no visual difference between the narrow strip and the tab region.All in all I'd say "needs to copy Chrome's title bar more".
The title bar design in Chrome is one of my favourite things about it, despite (or perhaps because?
) its utter non-compliance with the usual Windows HIG layout.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121196</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31123590</id>
	<title>The only feature I want is Gmail and iGoogle</title>
	<author>djscoumoune</author>
	<datestamp>1265988840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The only feature I want is being able to run Gmail, iGoogle without bugs, and being able to log in Youtube and any google service. I've been using Opera for a while but it's really annoying to have to switch browser just to be able to read the news and emails.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The only feature I want is being able to run Gmail , iGoogle without bugs , and being able to log in Youtube and any google service .
I 've been using Opera for a while but it 's really annoying to have to switch browser just to be able to read the news and emails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only feature I want is being able to run Gmail, iGoogle without bugs, and being able to log in Youtube and any google service.
I've been using Opera for a while but it's really annoying to have to switch browser just to be able to read the news and emails.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121368</id>
	<title>Re:Pretty impressive release</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265976480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It still bugs me that it's very, very hard to make a customizable browser like Opera open new tabs with a ctrl-click like every other browser.</p></div><p>What's wrong with the middle mouse button?</p><p>Opera used Shift for that purpose before other browsers even had tabs, and it still works that way (I think - I really don't know, because I've had a mouse with a scroll wheel for many years now).</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It still bugs me that it 's very , very hard to make a customizable browser like Opera open new tabs with a ctrl-click like every other browser.What 's wrong with the middle mouse button ? Opera used Shift for that purpose before other browsers even had tabs , and it still works that way ( I think - I really do n't know , because I 've had a mouse with a scroll wheel for many years now ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It still bugs me that it's very, very hard to make a customizable browser like Opera open new tabs with a ctrl-click like every other browser.What's wrong with the middle mouse button?Opera used Shift for that purpose before other browsers even had tabs, and it still works that way (I think - I really don't know, because I've had a mouse with a scroll wheel for many years now).
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121282</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121244</id>
	<title>It will still suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265975880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've <i>wanted</i> to like Opera for years, but I don't like the way it caches data...for example using the Yuku (old EZ Board) message board.  If there are new articles, I have to manually hit refresh to detect them when I navigate back to the page later on.  IE, Firefox, and Chrome automatically detect the changes, Opera does not.  Maybe there is a setting I could change, but why should I when the other browsers work fine out of the box for this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've wanted to like Opera for years , but I do n't like the way it caches data...for example using the Yuku ( old EZ Board ) message board .
If there are new articles , I have to manually hit refresh to detect them when I navigate back to the page later on .
IE , Firefox , and Chrome automatically detect the changes , Opera does not .
Maybe there is a setting I could change , but why should I when the other browsers work fine out of the box for this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've wanted to like Opera for years, but I don't like the way it caches data...for example using the Yuku (old EZ Board) message board.
If there are new articles, I have to manually hit refresh to detect them when I navigate back to the page later on.
IE, Firefox, and Chrome automatically detect the changes, Opera does not.
Maybe there is a setting I could change, but why should I when the other browsers work fine out of the box for this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31126640</id>
	<title>Re:Still fails at trivial CSS rendering/1.5yr old</title>
	<author>richlv</author>
	<datestamp>1266073620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>for the record, 10.10 resizes the area when decreasing it vertically, but not when increasing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>for the record , 10.10 resizes the area when decreasing it vertically , but not when increasing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>for the record, 10.10 resizes the area when decreasing it vertically, but not when increasing.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121940</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121182</id>
	<title>Firefox relevance?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265975640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>One must ask again, with Opera and Chrome speeds is Firefox even relevant?
<br> <br>
Que the "if adblock was a woman I'd finally get laid!" crowd.</htmltext>
<tokenext>One must ask again , with Opera and Chrome speeds is Firefox even relevant ?
Que the " if adblock was a woman I 'd finally get laid !
" crowd .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>One must ask again, with Opera and Chrome speeds is Firefox even relevant?
Que the "if adblock was a woman I'd finally get laid!
" crowd.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121236</id>
	<title>Why the obsession with javascript?</title>
	<author>sznupi</author>
	<datestamp>1265975880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Note: I do recognize and appreciate the need to make javascript perform better.</p><p>Thing is...it seems that for many tech "journalists" hardly anything besides js matters anymore!</p><p>Notice how Opera said "the fastets on earth"; which might be still debatable of course, but they <i>did not</i> say "...fastest in javascript". Opera knows that's not the whole story in browser performance. You can see it especially when using Opera on some ancient machine where the difference is most startling. WebMonkey seems to know it too (nah, not reading TFA...)</p><p>CNET, ZDNet and The Reg seem to care only about JS...</p><p>What is it? Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday? "Journalists" taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks? (written "for" Opera competitors BTW...)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Note : I do recognize and appreciate the need to make javascript perform better.Thing is...it seems that for many tech " journalists " hardly anything besides js matters anymore ! Notice how Opera said " the fastets on earth " ; which might be still debatable of course , but they did not say " ...fastest in javascript " .
Opera knows that 's not the whole story in browser performance .
You can see it especially when using Opera on some ancient machine where the difference is most startling .
WebMonkey seems to know it too ( nah , not reading TFA... ) CNET , ZDNet and The Reg seem to care only about JS...What is it ?
Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday ?
" Journalists " taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks ?
( written " for " Opera competitors BTW... )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Note: I do recognize and appreciate the need to make javascript perform better.Thing is...it seems that for many tech "journalists" hardly anything besides js matters anymore!Notice how Opera said "the fastets on earth"; which might be still debatable of course, but they did not say "...fastest in javascript".
Opera knows that's not the whole story in browser performance.
You can see it especially when using Opera on some ancient machine where the difference is most startling.
WebMonkey seems to know it too (nah, not reading TFA...)CNET, ZDNet and The Reg seem to care only about JS...What is it?
Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday?
"Journalists" taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks?
(written "for" Opera competitors BTW...)</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122222</id>
	<title>Re:Z1-Glass</title>
	<author>shutdown -p now</author>
	<datestamp>1265980380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Congratulations, you have successfully melted the PC of the unfortunate author of that skin by Slashdotting.</p><p>(if it's you, then you should check yours ASAP!)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Congratulations , you have successfully melted the PC of the unfortunate author of that skin by Slashdotting .
( if it 's you , then you should check yours ASAP !
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Congratulations, you have successfully melted the PC of the unfortunate author of that skin by Slashdotting.
(if it's you, then you should check yours ASAP!
)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121562</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31124044</id>
	<title>Re:It will still suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265992920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I've <i>wanted</i> to like Opera for years, but I don't like the way it caches data...for example using the Yuku (old EZ Board) message board.  If there are new articles, I have to manually hit refresh to detect them when I navigate back to the page later on.  IE, Firefox, and Chrome automatically detect the changes, Opera does not.  Maybe there is a setting I could change, but why should I when the other browsers work fine out of the box for this.</p></div><p>Greedy caching is always better. No exceptions. Reconnecting over the web is a waste when your were just here 5 minutes ago, or worse, if you misclicked a link and have to wait for it to reload over a dialup or bad Wifi connection. When you block flash and ads at a proxy or hardware level, and even turn JS off, it is stupid to have a page reload again when you click back.</p><p>It is silly to forget that 10 years ago pages were not expected to have new blog posts, breaking news or twit / myspace / facebook garbage considered an update to be urgently pushed to the browser; hell, we still don't get minute by minute data unless flash, java or JS addins are riding on to of the webpage, making refresh buttons not necessary for important data (realtime quotes, for instance, use ActiveX; businesses don't trust your HTML layer for refreshing.)</p><p>We have been coerced by MS to forget that we can use a refresh botton if we are on<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... the front page of slashdot. Hell, HTML and cookies both have TTL functionality, so more webmasters should play a larger part if you are really that bothered about Opera not "being told" which pages to never cache.</p><p>It really pisses me off when I'm on a legacy but maxed out PC with a mainstream browser and every single Back click destroys the whole point of having a browser history. Most browsers don't even let you define when to refresh content, and use a messed up model of refresh everything instead of refresh only webpages whose tags suggest to do so.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've wanted to like Opera for years , but I do n't like the way it caches data...for example using the Yuku ( old EZ Board ) message board .
If there are new articles , I have to manually hit refresh to detect them when I navigate back to the page later on .
IE , Firefox , and Chrome automatically detect the changes , Opera does not .
Maybe there is a setting I could change , but why should I when the other browsers work fine out of the box for this.Greedy caching is always better .
No exceptions .
Reconnecting over the web is a waste when your were just here 5 minutes ago , or worse , if you misclicked a link and have to wait for it to reload over a dialup or bad Wifi connection .
When you block flash and ads at a proxy or hardware level , and even turn JS off , it is stupid to have a page reload again when you click back.It is silly to forget that 10 years ago pages were not expected to have new blog posts , breaking news or twit / myspace / facebook garbage considered an update to be urgently pushed to the browser ; hell , we still do n't get minute by minute data unless flash , java or JS addins are riding on to of the webpage , making refresh buttons not necessary for important data ( realtime quotes , for instance , use ActiveX ; businesses do n't trust your HTML layer for refreshing .
) We have been coerced by MS to forget that we can use a refresh botton if we are on ... the front page of slashdot .
Hell , HTML and cookies both have TTL functionality , so more webmasters should play a larger part if you are really that bothered about Opera not " being told " which pages to never cache.It really pisses me off when I 'm on a legacy but maxed out PC with a mainstream browser and every single Back click destroys the whole point of having a browser history .
Most browsers do n't even let you define when to refresh content , and use a messed up model of refresh everything instead of refresh only webpages whose tags suggest to do so .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've wanted to like Opera for years, but I don't like the way it caches data...for example using the Yuku (old EZ Board) message board.
If there are new articles, I have to manually hit refresh to detect them when I navigate back to the page later on.
IE, Firefox, and Chrome automatically detect the changes, Opera does not.
Maybe there is a setting I could change, but why should I when the other browsers work fine out of the box for this.Greedy caching is always better.
No exceptions.
Reconnecting over the web is a waste when your were just here 5 minutes ago, or worse, if you misclicked a link and have to wait for it to reload over a dialup or bad Wifi connection.
When you block flash and ads at a proxy or hardware level, and even turn JS off, it is stupid to have a page reload again when you click back.It is silly to forget that 10 years ago pages were not expected to have new blog posts, breaking news or twit / myspace / facebook garbage considered an update to be urgently pushed to the browser; hell, we still don't get minute by minute data unless flash, java or JS addins are riding on to of the webpage, making refresh buttons not necessary for important data (realtime quotes, for instance, use ActiveX; businesses don't trust your HTML layer for refreshing.
)We have been coerced by MS to forget that we can use a refresh botton if we are on ... the front page of slashdot.
Hell, HTML and cookies both have TTL functionality, so more webmasters should play a larger part if you are really that bothered about Opera not "being told" which pages to never cache.It really pisses me off when I'm on a legacy but maxed out PC with a mainstream browser and every single Back click destroys the whole point of having a browser history.
Most browsers don't even let you define when to refresh content, and use a messed up model of refresh everything instead of refresh only webpages whose tags suggest to do so.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121244</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121712</id>
	<title>Re:Vega</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265978100000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>It'll make transformations and other animations run far smoother in opera than any other browser (with the exception of firefox's direct2d experimental build that was released a while back).</p></div><p>Except WebKit which has a similar engine (Safari, Chrome, AIR). VEGA and WebKit are GPU *capable*, but VEGA currently only runs on software. WebKit is GPU acclerated under OSX.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 'll make transformations and other animations run far smoother in opera than any other browser ( with the exception of firefox 's direct2d experimental build that was released a while back ) .Except WebKit which has a similar engine ( Safari , Chrome , AIR ) .
VEGA and WebKit are GPU * capable * , but VEGA currently only runs on software .
WebKit is GPU acclerated under OSX .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It'll make transformations and other animations run far smoother in opera than any other browser (with the exception of firefox's direct2d experimental build that was released a while back).Except WebKit which has a similar engine (Safari, Chrome, AIR).
VEGA and WebKit are GPU *capable*, but VEGA currently only runs on software.
WebKit is GPU acclerated under OSX.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121178</id>
	<title>A little known Opera feature: Small Screen</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265975640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Opera go to:<br>&gt;View &gt;Small Screen</p><p>This decreases the horizontal width of pages greatly, making moderate to longer texts alot easier to read. If the horizontal length of a page is too great when you are the end of a line it takes longer to re-orient your eyes to reach the next line, re-adjust your mental focus to the new line and continue on. The small screen feature actually makes reading texts on a web browser more pleasurable and easy.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Opera go to : &gt; View &gt; Small ScreenThis decreases the horizontal width of pages greatly , making moderate to longer texts alot easier to read .
If the horizontal length of a page is too great when you are the end of a line it takes longer to re-orient your eyes to reach the next line , re-adjust your mental focus to the new line and continue on .
The small screen feature actually makes reading texts on a web browser more pleasurable and easy .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Opera go to:&gt;View &gt;Small ScreenThis decreases the horizontal width of pages greatly, making moderate to longer texts alot easier to read.
If the horizontal length of a page is too great when you are the end of a line it takes longer to re-orient your eyes to reach the next line, re-adjust your mental focus to the new line and continue on.
The small screen feature actually makes reading texts on a web browser more pleasurable and easy.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121990</id>
	<title>Re:Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265979360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>JavaScript is a de facto standard supported by all browsers. Unseating it would be as hard as migrating from GIF to PNG. And, unlike GIF, it doesn't have any patent problems, and in general it's just "good enough". Furthermore, there's no clear single replacement - quite a lot of people are actually very happy with JS, but even of those who are not, some would promote Python, some Ruby, etc.</p><p>Don't fix what's not broken badly enough.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>JavaScript is a de facto standard supported by all browsers .
Unseating it would be as hard as migrating from GIF to PNG .
And , unlike GIF , it does n't have any patent problems , and in general it 's just " good enough " .
Furthermore , there 's no clear single replacement - quite a lot of people are actually very happy with JS , but even of those who are not , some would promote Python , some Ruby , etc.Do n't fix what 's not broken badly enough .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>JavaScript is a de facto standard supported by all browsers.
Unseating it would be as hard as migrating from GIF to PNG.
And, unlike GIF, it doesn't have any patent problems, and in general it's just "good enough".
Furthermore, there's no clear single replacement - quite a lot of people are actually very happy with JS, but even of those who are not, some would promote Python, some Ruby, etc.Don't fix what's not broken badly enough.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121062</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31124886</id>
	<title>Re:Why the obsession with javascript?</title>
	<author>bigbigbison</author>
	<datestamp>1266002520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I would guess that it isn't that CNET, ZDNet, and The Reg only care about JS but that the press release Opera sent out bragged about JS and they just cut and pasted from it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I would guess that it is n't that CNET , ZDNet , and The Reg only care about JS but that the press release Opera sent out bragged about JS and they just cut and pasted from it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I would guess that it isn't that CNET, ZDNet, and The Reg only care about JS but that the press release Opera sent out bragged about JS and they just cut and pasted from it.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121236</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31126750</id>
	<title>Re:Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266074580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The people of Iraq, Vietnam etc like US taxes, the bombs they buy are civilisation good and hard.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The people of Iraq , Vietnam etc like US taxes , the bombs they buy are civilisation good and hard .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The people of Iraq, Vietnam etc like US taxes, the bombs they buy are civilisation good and hard.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121990</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122610</id>
	<title>Damn you are a shitty coder.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265982180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A Whiney little language fanboy bitch who can't form a thought or read the fucking manual. Javascript is simple and works well. Now let's just ditch your lazy ass shit.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A Whiney little language fanboy bitch who ca n't form a thought or read the fucking manual .
Javascript is simple and works well .
Now let 's just ditch your lazy ass shit .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A Whiney little language fanboy bitch who can't form a thought or read the fucking manual.
Javascript is simple and works well.
Now let's just ditch your lazy ass shit.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121062</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31143042</id>
	<title>pal</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266242160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>thanks</p><p>i like it</p><p>http://www.pallap.com/</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>thanksi like ithttp : //www.pallap.com/</tokentext>
<sentencetext>thanksi like ithttp://www.pallap.com/</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121562</id>
	<title>Z1-Glass</title>
	<author>BountyX</author>
	<datestamp>1265977440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext>If your trying the beta out, try the Z1-Glass theme, its pretty spiffy. I think it looks better than the default skin. You can download it by pressing Shift + F12, Select "Find More Skins" radio, then sort by Top Rated tab.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If your trying the beta out , try the Z1-Glass theme , its pretty spiffy .
I think it looks better than the default skin .
You can download it by pressing Shift + F12 , Select " Find More Skins " radio , then sort by Top Rated tab .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If your trying the beta out, try the Z1-Glass theme, its pretty spiffy.
I think it looks better than the default skin.
You can download it by pressing Shift + F12, Select "Find More Skins" radio, then sort by Top Rated tab.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121100</id>
	<title>stop speeding up javascript</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265975340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>There is already a standard language for writing web pages and it's called HTML.  JS was useful for getting some effects like rollover buttons that we can now do with CSS.  AJAX turned web pages into client-server apps that also had occasional usefulness but was more often was just used to create cuteseyness.  These days though, the amount of JS being imported into almost every page is staggering, and it's typically for evil and invasive purposes.  If you use Adblock Plus or Firebug, take a look at the JS code browser tracking stuff from quantserve, google-analytics, and others, that show up all over the web.  It's evil enough that those companies do cross-site tracking of your browsing at all, but the scripts they send reveal way more info about your browser than the mere HTTP hit to the tracking site would reveal.  (You should of course configure your browser to not send referer headers). Even the fancy but legitimately useful UI toolkits (e.g. YUI, jQuery) are invasive because they are so often served from third party sites (Yahoo or Google) instead of directly from the app site.</p><p>Yes all this stuff can also happen through other means.  But, JS is the mechanism making it spread so much.  We can't get rid of JS completely but we were better off in the old days when it was cumbersome and slow.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>There is already a standard language for writing web pages and it 's called HTML .
JS was useful for getting some effects like rollover buttons that we can now do with CSS .
AJAX turned web pages into client-server apps that also had occasional usefulness but was more often was just used to create cuteseyness .
These days though , the amount of JS being imported into almost every page is staggering , and it 's typically for evil and invasive purposes .
If you use Adblock Plus or Firebug , take a look at the JS code browser tracking stuff from quantserve , google-analytics , and others , that show up all over the web .
It 's evil enough that those companies do cross-site tracking of your browsing at all , but the scripts they send reveal way more info about your browser than the mere HTTP hit to the tracking site would reveal .
( You should of course configure your browser to not send referer headers ) .
Even the fancy but legitimately useful UI toolkits ( e.g .
YUI , jQuery ) are invasive because they are so often served from third party sites ( Yahoo or Google ) instead of directly from the app site.Yes all this stuff can also happen through other means .
But , JS is the mechanism making it spread so much .
We ca n't get rid of JS completely but we were better off in the old days when it was cumbersome and slow .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>There is already a standard language for writing web pages and it's called HTML.
JS was useful for getting some effects like rollover buttons that we can now do with CSS.
AJAX turned web pages into client-server apps that also had occasional usefulness but was more often was just used to create cuteseyness.
These days though, the amount of JS being imported into almost every page is staggering, and it's typically for evil and invasive purposes.
If you use Adblock Plus or Firebug, take a look at the JS code browser tracking stuff from quantserve, google-analytics, and others, that show up all over the web.
It's evil enough that those companies do cross-site tracking of your browsing at all, but the scripts they send reveal way more info about your browser than the mere HTTP hit to the tracking site would reveal.
(You should of course configure your browser to not send referer headers).
Even the fancy but legitimately useful UI toolkits (e.g.
YUI, jQuery) are invasive because they are so often served from third party sites (Yahoo or Google) instead of directly from the app site.Yes all this stuff can also happen through other means.
But, JS is the mechanism making it spread so much.
We can't get rid of JS completely but we were better off in the old days when it was cumbersome and slow.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121822</id>
	<title>Re:Ctrl+t</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265978640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>In Opera you press:<br>Ctrl+t<br>to open a new tab, I do not see the big deal and why Ctrl+click is better in any way. I am sure you can edit this in the ini anyway to make +click.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>In Opera you press : Ctrl + tto open a new tab , I do not see the big deal and why Ctrl + click is better in any way .
I am sure you can edit this in the ini anyway to make + click .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In Opera you press:Ctrl+tto open a new tab, I do not see the big deal and why Ctrl+click is better in any way.
I am sure you can edit this in the ini anyway to make +click.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121282</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121472</id>
	<title>Re:Pretty impressive release</title>
	<author>ZERO1ZERO</author>
	<datestamp>1265977020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><i>Now if only they'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome, I could use this as my default browser. </i> <p>
Please, no.  Either A) Use those browsers or B) request those browsers to be more like Opera.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Now if only they 'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome , I could use this as my default browser .
Please , no .
Either A ) Use those browsers or B ) request those browsers to be more like Opera .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now if only they'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome, I could use this as my default browser.
Please, no.
Either A) Use those browsers or B) request those browsers to be more like Opera.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121282</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121612</id>
	<title>YOU fAIL IT</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265977620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><A HREF="http://goat.cx/" title="goat.cx" rel="nofollow">long term survival things I still NIGGER ASSOCIATION open platform, Unlees you can work May well remain mistake of electing paper towels</a> [goat.cx]</htmltext>
<tokenext>long term survival things I still NIGGER ASSOCIATION open platform , Unlees you can work May well remain mistake of electing paper towels [ goat.cx ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>long term survival things I still NIGGER ASSOCIATION open platform, Unlees you can work May well remain mistake of electing paper towels [goat.cx]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121062</id>
	<title>Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265975220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Can we finally just ditch JavaScript for something better? Python, Ruby, or some dialect of Scheme would be much better. Hell, even Perl and Tcl would be a huge step in the right direction.</p><p>JavaScript started out as a quick hack over 15 years ago, and has unfortunately stuck around far longer than it should have. We can do better, and we should do better.</p><p>Opera, Google, Apple, Mozilla and the KDE project should team up on this goal, and make it happen. If Microsoft doesn't want to get with the times, then leave them behind.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Can we finally just ditch JavaScript for something better ?
Python , Ruby , or some dialect of Scheme would be much better .
Hell , even Perl and Tcl would be a huge step in the right direction.JavaScript started out as a quick hack over 15 years ago , and has unfortunately stuck around far longer than it should have .
We can do better , and we should do better.Opera , Google , Apple , Mozilla and the KDE project should team up on this goal , and make it happen .
If Microsoft does n't want to get with the times , then leave them behind .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Can we finally just ditch JavaScript for something better?
Python, Ruby, or some dialect of Scheme would be much better.
Hell, even Perl and Tcl would be a huge step in the right direction.JavaScript started out as a quick hack over 15 years ago, and has unfortunately stuck around far longer than it should have.
We can do better, and we should do better.Opera, Google, Apple, Mozilla and the KDE project should team up on this goal, and make it happen.
If Microsoft doesn't want to get with the times, then leave them behind.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31127540</id>
	<title>Re:Why the obsession with javascript?</title>
	<author>tian2992</author>
	<datestamp>1266081240000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, it's quite common to only check the JS numbers, so many benchmarks to choose from.
I remember an old webpage that tested both JS, HTML and CSS performance; Opera kicked ass in all except JS (this were pre-Chrome, Firefox 3.5 times)... So Opera has classically had quite good performance on HTML rendering on really large webpages, or crooked HTML, nested tables or stuff like that.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , it 's quite common to only check the JS numbers , so many benchmarks to choose from .
I remember an old webpage that tested both JS , HTML and CSS performance ; Opera kicked ass in all except JS ( this were pre-Chrome , Firefox 3.5 times ) ... So Opera has classically had quite good performance on HTML rendering on really large webpages , or crooked HTML , nested tables or stuff like that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, it's quite common to only check the JS numbers, so many benchmarks to choose from.
I remember an old webpage that tested both JS, HTML and CSS performance; Opera kicked ass in all except JS (this were pre-Chrome, Firefox 3.5 times)... So Opera has classically had quite good performance on HTML rendering on really large webpages, or crooked HTML, nested tables or stuff like that.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121236</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31124556</id>
	<title>Re:Pretty impressive release</title>
	<author>TangoMargarine</author>
	<datestamp>1265998620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Because it's not really a button. The reason I've never gotten into middle-"clicking" anything is because it takes like 3 times the normal amount of effort to make sure you're pressing it straight down, instead of scrolling it. And God help you if you have one that you can tilt side-to-side.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Because it 's not really a button .
The reason I 've never gotten into middle- " clicking " anything is because it takes like 3 times the normal amount of effort to make sure you 're pressing it straight down , instead of scrolling it .
And God help you if you have one that you can tilt side-to-side .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Because it's not really a button.
The reason I've never gotten into middle-"clicking" anything is because it takes like 3 times the normal amount of effort to make sure you're pressing it straight down, instead of scrolling it.
And God help you if you have one that you can tilt side-to-side.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121368</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122270</id>
	<title>Re:Windows only?</title>
	<author>Stratoukos</author>
	<datestamp>1265980560000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version.</p></div><p>Could you please point me to where they explained that? In my original post I was referring to <a href="http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/accelerated-process" title="opera.com" rel="nofollow">this</a> [opera.com] post, where he says that all desktop platforms are undergoing massive changes to platform integration. I can't find anywhere that the Linux and Mac versions are undergoing bigger changes than the Windows version.</p><p>Of course, I am not saying that if they have the Windows version ready before the others they should hold it back until everything is ready, but that post seems (to me at least) to imply that the "large number of great engineers" where allocated to the Windows version, allowing other versions to fall behind.</p><p>I also have to admit that I didn't think about the browser ballot, as other posters pointed out.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version.Could you please point me to where they explained that ?
In my original post I was referring to this [ opera.com ] post , where he says that all desktop platforms are undergoing massive changes to platform integration .
I ca n't find anywhere that the Linux and Mac versions are undergoing bigger changes than the Windows version.Of course , I am not saying that if they have the Windows version ready before the others they should hold it back until everything is ready , but that post seems ( to me at least ) to imply that the " large number of great engineers " where allocated to the Windows version , allowing other versions to fall behind.I also have to admit that I did n't think about the browser ballot , as other posters pointed out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>They quite clearly explained that this was because the Linux and Mac versions were undergoing much bigger changes than the Windows version.Could you please point me to where they explained that?
In my original post I was referring to this [opera.com] post, where he says that all desktop platforms are undergoing massive changes to platform integration.
I can't find anywhere that the Linux and Mac versions are undergoing bigger changes than the Windows version.Of course, I am not saying that if they have the Windows version ready before the others they should hold it back until everything is ready, but that post seems (to me at least) to imply that the "large number of great engineers" where allocated to the Windows version, allowing other versions to fall behind.I also have to admit that I didn't think about the browser ballot, as other posters pointed out.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121248</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121076</id>
	<title>Vega</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265975220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>I'm actually far more excited for VEGA (their new vector graphics lib) than the javascript update. Is having spiffy-fast js nice? Yea, but I think Vega is really where they're going to shine. It'll make transformations and other animations run far smoother in opera than any other browser (with the exception of firefox's direct2d experimental build that was released a while back). Kudos Opera, you're ahead of the game yet again.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm actually far more excited for VEGA ( their new vector graphics lib ) than the javascript update .
Is having spiffy-fast js nice ?
Yea , but I think Vega is really where they 're going to shine .
It 'll make transformations and other animations run far smoother in opera than any other browser ( with the exception of firefox 's direct2d experimental build that was released a while back ) .
Kudos Opera , you 're ahead of the game yet again .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm actually far more excited for VEGA (their new vector graphics lib) than the javascript update.
Is having spiffy-fast js nice?
Yea, but I think Vega is really where they're going to shine.
It'll make transformations and other animations run far smoother in opera than any other browser (with the exception of firefox's direct2d experimental build that was released a while back).
Kudos Opera, you're ahead of the game yet again.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121142</id>
	<title>Windows only?</title>
	<author>Stratoukos</author>
	<datestamp>1265975460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Opera, my favorite browser for years just, lost some major credit from me. I find 10.5 to be an exciting release, especially Carakan, but I always admired them for delivering a quality browser simultaneously for most platforms and this time they failed at that. According to a developer's blog post, 10.5 final will also come out for Windows before it comes out for other platforms, and then they are going to shift focus to them.</p><p>At least he says that it's only for 10.5.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Opera , my favorite browser for years just , lost some major credit from me .
I find 10.5 to be an exciting release , especially Carakan , but I always admired them for delivering a quality browser simultaneously for most platforms and this time they failed at that .
According to a developer 's blog post , 10.5 final will also come out for Windows before it comes out for other platforms , and then they are going to shift focus to them.At least he says that it 's only for 10.5 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Opera, my favorite browser for years just, lost some major credit from me.
I find 10.5 to be an exciting release, especially Carakan, but I always admired them for delivering a quality browser simultaneously for most platforms and this time they failed at that.
According to a developer's blog post, 10.5 final will also come out for Windows before it comes out for other platforms, and then they are going to shift focus to them.At least he says that it's only for 10.5.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122998</id>
	<title>Re:It will still suck</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265984340000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Prefs &gt; Advanced &gt; History. I think by default it sets to 5 hours for Documents and Images, which is obviously far too long. I've been carrying over a set of preferences since sometime around version 9, so I have no clue what the default is these days. But setting Documents to "every time" and Images to whatever pleases you (mine's at 5 minutes, which I think might be a little much) should solve the issue.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Prefs &gt; Advanced &gt; History .
I think by default it sets to 5 hours for Documents and Images , which is obviously far too long .
I 've been carrying over a set of preferences since sometime around version 9 , so I have no clue what the default is these days .
But setting Documents to " every time " and Images to whatever pleases you ( mine 's at 5 minutes , which I think might be a little much ) should solve the issue .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Prefs &gt; Advanced &gt; History.
I think by default it sets to 5 hours for Documents and Images, which is obviously far too long.
I've been carrying over a set of preferences since sometime around version 9, so I have no clue what the default is these days.
But setting Documents to "every time" and Images to whatever pleases you (mine's at 5 minutes, which I think might be a little much) should solve the issue.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121282</id>
	<title>Pretty impressive release</title>
	<author>bheer</author>
	<datestamp>1265976000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried several of the Chrome Experiments on Opera 10.5, and everything ran very smoothly. Good going Opera.</p><p>Now if only they'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome, I could use this as my default browser. It still bugs me that it's very, very hard to make a customizable browser like Opera open new tabs with a ctrl-click like every other browser.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried several of the Chrome Experiments on Opera 10.5 , and everything ran very smoothly .
Good going Opera.Now if only they 'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome , I could use this as my default browser .
It still bugs me that it 's very , very hard to make a customizable browser like Opera open new tabs with a ctrl-click like every other browser .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried several of the Chrome Experiments on Opera 10.5, and everything ran very smoothly.
Good going Opera.Now if only they'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome, I could use this as my default browser.
It still bugs me that it's very, very hard to make a customizable browser like Opera open new tabs with a ctrl-click like every other browser.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31123078</id>
	<title>SunSpider means very little to most people</title>
	<author>Rui del-Negro</author>
	<datestamp>1265984880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>SunSpider is a "core JS benchmark". It does not focus on interaction with the renderer (which is what JS is used for in &gt;95\% of web pages), it basically tests JS performance as a computing platform. While this is likely to become more relevant in the future, it's still not a good measure of how a browser's JS performance impacts user experience.</p><p>Opera 9 was quite slow at running SunSpider and yet reacted faster than any browser of its time to user interaction in most pages, simply because it was faster "where it mattered" (interaction with the DOM and renderer).</p><p>If I was a cynical person, I'd say that SunSpider (a benchmark created by WebKit) was designed specifically to make WebKit look better than Opera and Firefox...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:-P</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>SunSpider is a " core JS benchmark " .
It does not focus on interaction with the renderer ( which is what JS is used for in &gt; 95 \ % of web pages ) , it basically tests JS performance as a computing platform .
While this is likely to become more relevant in the future , it 's still not a good measure of how a browser 's JS performance impacts user experience.Opera 9 was quite slow at running SunSpider and yet reacted faster than any browser of its time to user interaction in most pages , simply because it was faster " where it mattered " ( interaction with the DOM and renderer ) .If I was a cynical person , I 'd say that SunSpider ( a benchmark created by WebKit ) was designed specifically to make WebKit look better than Opera and Firefox... : -P</tokentext>
<sentencetext>SunSpider is a "core JS benchmark".
It does not focus on interaction with the renderer (which is what JS is used for in &gt;95\% of web pages), it basically tests JS performance as a computing platform.
While this is likely to become more relevant in the future, it's still not a good measure of how a browser's JS performance impacts user experience.Opera 9 was quite slow at running SunSpider and yet reacted faster than any browser of its time to user interaction in most pages, simply because it was faster "where it mattered" (interaction with the DOM and renderer).If I was a cynical person, I'd say that SunSpider (a benchmark created by WebKit) was designed specifically to make WebKit look better than Opera and Firefox... :-P</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31123152</id>
	<title>Re:Vega</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265985420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>IE9 has hardware rendering as well, and it really makes a massive difference.</htmltext>
<tokenext>IE9 has hardware rendering as well , and it really makes a massive difference .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>IE9 has hardware rendering as well, and it really makes a massive difference.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121076</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31120996</id>
	<title>tag plz</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265974980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Tag article with: pleasedontfeedthetrolls, kthxbye.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:\</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Tag article with : pleasedontfeedthetrolls , kthxbye .
: \</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Tag article with: pleasedontfeedthetrolls, kthxbye.
:\</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121420</id>
	<title>Re:Pretty impressive release</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1265976780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><blockquote><div><p>Now if only they'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome</p></div></blockquote><p>
Preferences, Advanced, Shortcuts?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Now if only they 'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome Preferences , Advanced , Shortcuts ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Now if only they'd add an option to make the keyboard/mouse options more like Firefox/Chrome
Preferences, Advanced, Shortcuts?
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121282</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122208</id>
	<title>Re:Windows only?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265980320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I believe the reason for the focus on Windows for 10.50 is so they can get 10.50 out in time to be in the European ballot screen. This is not their usual pattern for releasing (as you noted).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I believe the reason for the focus on Windows for 10.50 is so they can get 10.50 out in time to be in the European ballot screen .
This is not their usual pattern for releasing ( as you noted ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I believe the reason for the focus on Windows for 10.50 is so they can get 10.50 out in time to be in the European ballot screen.
This is not their usual pattern for releasing (as you noted).</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121142</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31120972</id>
	<title>Yes Muskelaufbau play</title>
	<author>Muskelaufbau</author>
	<datestamp>1265974920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Muskelaufbau Play bei <a href="http://www.pharmasports.de/" title="pharmasports.de" rel="nofollow">http://www.pharmasports.de/</a> [pharmasports.de]
das ist Game of Muskelaufbau.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Muskelaufbau Play bei http : //www.pharmasports.de/ [ pharmasports.de ] das ist Game of Muskelaufbau .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Muskelaufbau Play bei http://www.pharmasports.de/ [pharmasports.de]
das ist Game of Muskelaufbau.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31126136</id>
	<title>Re:But...</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1266068040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>What's wrong with the CSS implementation?</htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's wrong with the CSS implementation ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What's wrong with the CSS implementation?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31125346</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121196</id>
	<title>Worth a look</title>
	<author>WiiVault</author>
	<datestamp>1265975700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>As an everyday Chrome user I have to say this new Opera beta is pretty spiffy. I've been using it for the past day and while the UI is certainly Chrome-like but seems to have a bit more polish. The best part is it seems on par if not even slightly faster with most rendering in comparison to Chrome. Lately I've switched from Safari/FF to Chrome, but I'll be seeing how Opera works this one out. This will be great to see on Mac and Linux at some point in the future. Especially Mac where Opera performance has generally lagged.</htmltext>
<tokenext>As an everyday Chrome user I have to say this new Opera beta is pretty spiffy .
I 've been using it for the past day and while the UI is certainly Chrome-like but seems to have a bit more polish .
The best part is it seems on par if not even slightly faster with most rendering in comparison to Chrome .
Lately I 've switched from Safari/FF to Chrome , but I 'll be seeing how Opera works this one out .
This will be great to see on Mac and Linux at some point in the future .
Especially Mac where Opera performance has generally lagged .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As an everyday Chrome user I have to say this new Opera beta is pretty spiffy.
I've been using it for the past day and while the UI is certainly Chrome-like but seems to have a bit more polish.
The best part is it seems on par if not even slightly faster with most rendering in comparison to Chrome.
Lately I've switched from Safari/FF to Chrome, but I'll be seeing how Opera works this one out.
This will be great to see on Mac and Linux at some point in the future.
Especially Mac where Opera performance has generally lagged.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121810</id>
	<title>Re:stop speeding up javascript</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265978520000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Flush out your headgear, new guy.  The days of HTML- and CSS- only websites are over.  Even though those sites still exist, there's an entirely new category of "websites" online: web applications.  The application I've been working on for the last 3 years or so is composed of about 60\% Javascript, 30\% PHP, 8\% CSS, 1\% HTML, 1\% "other".  With the recent push in Javascript engines, I've actually been able to watch the performance of the application improve by a substantial amount through no effort of my own, just because the application uses Javascript for the entire interface and browsers have focused on that aspect.</p><p>Nearly all of Google's services other than search are powered by Javascript, from Maps to Mail.  Javascript (or any widely-supported client-side scripting language) is here to stay, and frankly it's the future of anything that's going to be online other than your basic informational sites.  Even sites which are taking advantage of all of the new features in HTML5 will continue to take advantage of Javascript as well.  The difference between IE6/7 and any very recent (&lt; 3 months) browser is staggering.</p><p>I'm glad to see Opera catching up again, they're my browser of choice.  They were among the fastest of the "first generation" JS engines, but nearly everyone else other than Microsoft pretty much beat Opera to the punch in the next generation of Javascript.  It's nice to see them catch up.  I hope Microsoft is able to make better strides with IE9, if not before.</p><p><div class="quote"><p>Even the fancy but legitimately useful UI toolkits (e.g. YUI, jQuery) are invasive because they are so often served from third party sites (Yahoo or Google) instead of directly from the app site.</p></div><p>You can't say that the libraries are invasive because they're included from third-party applications, the application developers are invasive.  My chosen framework (ExtJS in this case) is served from the same domain as the rest of the application, all gzipped and everything.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Flush out your headgear , new guy .
The days of HTML- and CSS- only websites are over .
Even though those sites still exist , there 's an entirely new category of " websites " online : web applications .
The application I 've been working on for the last 3 years or so is composed of about 60 \ % Javascript , 30 \ % PHP , 8 \ % CSS , 1 \ % HTML , 1 \ % " other " .
With the recent push in Javascript engines , I 've actually been able to watch the performance of the application improve by a substantial amount through no effort of my own , just because the application uses Javascript for the entire interface and browsers have focused on that aspect.Nearly all of Google 's services other than search are powered by Javascript , from Maps to Mail .
Javascript ( or any widely-supported client-side scripting language ) is here to stay , and frankly it 's the future of anything that 's going to be online other than your basic informational sites .
Even sites which are taking advantage of all of the new features in HTML5 will continue to take advantage of Javascript as well .
The difference between IE6/7 and any very recent ( I 'm glad to see Opera catching up again , they 're my browser of choice .
They were among the fastest of the " first generation " JS engines , but nearly everyone else other than Microsoft pretty much beat Opera to the punch in the next generation of Javascript .
It 's nice to see them catch up .
I hope Microsoft is able to make better strides with IE9 , if not before.Even the fancy but legitimately useful UI toolkits ( e.g .
YUI , jQuery ) are invasive because they are so often served from third party sites ( Yahoo or Google ) instead of directly from the app site.You ca n't say that the libraries are invasive because they 're included from third-party applications , the application developers are invasive .
My chosen framework ( ExtJS in this case ) is served from the same domain as the rest of the application , all gzipped and everything .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Flush out your headgear, new guy.
The days of HTML- and CSS- only websites are over.
Even though those sites still exist, there's an entirely new category of "websites" online: web applications.
The application I've been working on for the last 3 years or so is composed of about 60\% Javascript, 30\% PHP, 8\% CSS, 1\% HTML, 1\% "other".
With the recent push in Javascript engines, I've actually been able to watch the performance of the application improve by a substantial amount through no effort of my own, just because the application uses Javascript for the entire interface and browsers have focused on that aspect.Nearly all of Google's services other than search are powered by Javascript, from Maps to Mail.
Javascript (or any widely-supported client-side scripting language) is here to stay, and frankly it's the future of anything that's going to be online other than your basic informational sites.
Even sites which are taking advantage of all of the new features in HTML5 will continue to take advantage of Javascript as well.
The difference between IE6/7 and any very recent (I'm glad to see Opera catching up again, they're my browser of choice.
They were among the fastest of the "first generation" JS engines, but nearly everyone else other than Microsoft pretty much beat Opera to the punch in the next generation of Javascript.
It's nice to see them catch up.
I hope Microsoft is able to make better strides with IE9, if not before.Even the fancy but legitimately useful UI toolkits (e.g.
YUI, jQuery) are invasive because they are so often served from third party sites (Yahoo or Google) instead of directly from the app site.You can't say that the libraries are invasive because they're included from third-party applications, the application developers are invasive.
My chosen framework (ExtJS in this case) is served from the same domain as the rest of the application, all gzipped and everything.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31125622</id>
	<title>Re:Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>johny42</author>
	<datestamp>1266059400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The only thing about JavaScript that is a quick hack is its name. JavaScript is <a href="http://www.crockford.com/javascript/javascript.html" title="crockford.com" rel="nofollow">the world's most misunderstood programming language</a> [crockford.com] (funny how this link finds its way into every Slashdot story that mentions JavaScript) as well as the first (only?) functional language accepted by maistream.</p><p>You might argue that most of the JavaScript code on the Internet is a quick hack (or at least was, before frameworks like Prototype and jQuery became popular), but that doesn't make it a bad language.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The only thing about JavaScript that is a quick hack is its name .
JavaScript is the world 's most misunderstood programming language [ crockford.com ] ( funny how this link finds its way into every Slashdot story that mentions JavaScript ) as well as the first ( only ?
) functional language accepted by maistream.You might argue that most of the JavaScript code on the Internet is a quick hack ( or at least was , before frameworks like Prototype and jQuery became popular ) , but that does n't make it a bad language .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The only thing about JavaScript that is a quick hack is its name.
JavaScript is the world's most misunderstood programming language [crockford.com] (funny how this link finds its way into every Slashdot story that mentions JavaScript) as well as the first (only?
) functional language accepted by maistream.You might argue that most of the JavaScript code on the Internet is a quick hack (or at least was, before frameworks like Prototype and jQuery became popular), but that doesn't make it a bad language.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31125412</id>
	<title>Re:Still fails at trivial CSS rendering/1.5yr old</title>
	<author>onedotzero</author>
	<datestamp>1266055020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, that one's been around a while. Only real way to mitigate it is JS (jquery has a nice $(window).resize() function - though it doesn't seem to work in some version of Safari).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , that one 's been around a while .
Only real way to mitigate it is JS ( jquery has a nice $ ( window ) .resize ( ) function - though it does n't seem to work in some version of Safari ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, that one's been around a while.
Only real way to mitigate it is JS (jquery has a nice $(window).resize() function - though it doesn't seem to work in some version of Safari).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122082</id>
	<title>Re:Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265979780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Javascript is actually quite a nice language, with object oriented concepts as well as functional concepts. And it doesn't have semantic whitespace...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Javascript is actually quite a nice language , with object oriented concepts as well as functional concepts .
And it does n't have semantic whitespace.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Javascript is actually quite a nice language, with object oriented concepts as well as functional concepts.
And it doesn't have semantic whitespace...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122282</id>
	<title>Re:Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>aztracker1</author>
	<datestamp>1265980620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Perhaps you should give some inherit advantages that Python, Ruby or Scheme have over JavaScript?  Since the newer JS engines are probably much faster than any Python or Ruby engine currently.  The language itself (as of ES3) is pretty feature competitive, it's simply that most developers don't understand the language.  And confuse the language itself with the API that the browser exposes.  A crappy API will be crappy regardless of the language used to interface with that API, if not translated.  PHP for example isn't a bad language (IMHO) but most of the exposed APIs are horrible in terms of use within the language in question.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Perhaps you should give some inherit advantages that Python , Ruby or Scheme have over JavaScript ?
Since the newer JS engines are probably much faster than any Python or Ruby engine currently .
The language itself ( as of ES3 ) is pretty feature competitive , it 's simply that most developers do n't understand the language .
And confuse the language itself with the API that the browser exposes .
A crappy API will be crappy regardless of the language used to interface with that API , if not translated .
PHP for example is n't a bad language ( IMHO ) but most of the exposed APIs are horrible in terms of use within the language in question .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Perhaps you should give some inherit advantages that Python, Ruby or Scheme have over JavaScript?
Since the newer JS engines are probably much faster than any Python or Ruby engine currently.
The language itself (as of ES3) is pretty feature competitive, it's simply that most developers don't understand the language.
And confuse the language itself with the API that the browser exposes.
A crappy API will be crappy regardless of the language used to interface with that API, if not translated.
PHP for example isn't a bad language (IMHO) but most of the exposed APIs are horrible in terms of use within the language in question.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121062</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121412</id>
	<title>Re:Vega</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265976720000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
What's VEGA used for - general rendering? SVG programming of some sort? Or &lt;canvas&gt;?
And does anyone know of a good intro to general-purpose browser-based vector animation programming?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What 's VEGA used for - general rendering ?
SVG programming of some sort ?
Or ?
And does anyone know of a good intro to general-purpose browser-based vector animation programming ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
What's VEGA used for - general rendering?
SVG programming of some sort?
Or ?
And does anyone know of a good intro to general-purpose browser-based vector animation programming?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121076</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121918</id>
	<title>Re:Pretty impressive release</title>
	<author>Backward Z</author>
	<datestamp>1265979000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I've been using Opera for some time now but I've become very attached to many of their other shortcut keys.</p><p>Most indispensable is going forward/back by holding left click and right clicking and vice versa.  It's just so intuitive.  I catch myself trying to use it constantly in file explorer.</p><p>That's what I want.  Customizable Windows shortcut keys.  Why not?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 've been using Opera for some time now but I 've become very attached to many of their other shortcut keys.Most indispensable is going forward/back by holding left click and right clicking and vice versa .
It 's just so intuitive .
I catch myself trying to use it constantly in file explorer.That 's what I want .
Customizable Windows shortcut keys .
Why not ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I've been using Opera for some time now but I've become very attached to many of their other shortcut keys.Most indispensable is going forward/back by holding left click and right clicking and vice versa.
It's just so intuitive.
I catch myself trying to use it constantly in file explorer.That's what I want.
Customizable Windows shortcut keys.
Why not?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121282</parent>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121202</id>
	<title>Proxy issues</title>
	<author>Dartz-IRL</author>
	<datestamp>1265975760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I tried it, and found it still has some irritating issues. For one thing, proxy settings don't work right, which is a real pain in the butt for those of us in a university. I know it's beta software, but that's still a pretty nasty issue, and has been commented on on their forums already.</p><p>Otherwise, it seems to be quite nice. I like the new UI, newsgroups and mail features, but I haven't been using it near enough to get beyond that.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I tried it , and found it still has some irritating issues .
For one thing , proxy settings do n't work right , which is a real pain in the butt for those of us in a university .
I know it 's beta software , but that 's still a pretty nasty issue , and has been commented on on their forums already.Otherwise , it seems to be quite nice .
I like the new UI , newsgroups and mail features , but I have n't been using it near enough to get beyond that .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I tried it, and found it still has some irritating issues.
For one thing, proxy settings don't work right, which is a real pain in the butt for those of us in a university.
I know it's beta software, but that's still a pretty nasty issue, and has been commented on on their forums already.Otherwise, it seems to be quite nice.
I like the new UI, newsgroups and mail features, but I haven't been using it near enough to get beyond that.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121940</id>
	<title>Still fails at trivial CSS rendering/1.5yr old bug</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265979120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Love the new UI, and really appreciate the option of another well done browser.  But they still refuse to fix a trivial CSS bug which has horrible consequences for AJAX apps.</p><p>Just go to this page, and resize your browser with the vertical (not horizontal) handle.<br><a href="http://echo.nextapp.com/content/test/operacss/" title="nextapp.com">http://echo.nextapp.com/content/test/operacss/</a> [nextapp.com]</p><p>(This is very hard/impossible to do on a mac, as they don't really have one).</p><p>Unfortunately the bug is not limited to resizing with the vertical handle...it manifests itself in other ways.  It seems the browser is incorrectly measuring/reporting the vertical size of elements, and sometimes uses this data internally (as in the case of this test).</p><p>Full thread is here:<br><a href="http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=250572" title="opera.com">http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=250572</a> [opera.com]</p><p>And one of the Ajax apps that experiences more serious failures as a result: <a href="http://demo.nextapp.com/" title="nextapp.com">http://demo.nextapp.com/</a> [nextapp.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Love the new UI , and really appreciate the option of another well done browser .
But they still refuse to fix a trivial CSS bug which has horrible consequences for AJAX apps.Just go to this page , and resize your browser with the vertical ( not horizontal ) handle.http : //echo.nextapp.com/content/test/operacss/ [ nextapp.com ] ( This is very hard/impossible to do on a mac , as they do n't really have one ) .Unfortunately the bug is not limited to resizing with the vertical handle...it manifests itself in other ways .
It seems the browser is incorrectly measuring/reporting the vertical size of elements , and sometimes uses this data internally ( as in the case of this test ) .Full thread is here : http : //my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml ? id = 250572 [ opera.com ] And one of the Ajax apps that experiences more serious failures as a result : http : //demo.nextapp.com/ [ nextapp.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Love the new UI, and really appreciate the option of another well done browser.
But they still refuse to fix a trivial CSS bug which has horrible consequences for AJAX apps.Just go to this page, and resize your browser with the vertical (not horizontal) handle.http://echo.nextapp.com/content/test/operacss/ [nextapp.com](This is very hard/impossible to do on a mac, as they don't really have one).Unfortunately the bug is not limited to resizing with the vertical handle...it manifests itself in other ways.
It seems the browser is incorrectly measuring/reporting the vertical size of elements, and sometimes uses this data internally (as in the case of this test).Full thread is here:http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=250572 [opera.com]And one of the Ajax apps that experiences more serious failures as a result: http://demo.nextapp.com/ [nextapp.com]</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31124116</id>
	<title>1pv4/6 hybrid site bug fixed!!!!</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265993700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finally!!! This has been pissing me off for a long time. I almost switched browsers over this it was so annoying.</p><p>I can finally access FreeBSD.org and other such sites again...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally ! ! !
This has been pissing me off for a long time .
I almost switched browsers over this it was so annoying.I can finally access FreeBSD.org and other such sites again.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally!!!
This has been pissing me off for a long time.
I almost switched browsers over this it was so annoying.I can finally access FreeBSD.org and other such sites again...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31126608</id>
	<title>Re:Pretty impressive release</title>
	<author>richlv</author>
	<datestamp>1266073380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>hmm. it's ctrl+shift-click in opera, that i'm very used to. given that ctrl and shift ar one above the other on most keyboards (yeah, i know smaller laptops like eees have it a bit different), that's hardly an issue.</p><p>as an opera user since versions... hard to recall, but version 5 was definitely my primary browser - i have two large issues with opera right now<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p><p>1. i can't add a field in ui that would take value entered, add it to an url and open that url in a new tab. that's very limiting - bet i could get is to open that url in a new tab...</p><p>2. i just can't force it to NOT reload https pages when navigating back. i've set the maximal caching settings i could ever find, but it's still RELOADING THE DAMN PAGES. hey, opera engineers, wtf with this one ? or the above one, for that matter... i've posted on opera forums about both issues, no resolution.</p><p>don't misunderstand me, still loving opera and using any other browser very, very rarely<nobr> <wbr></nobr>:)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>hmm .
it 's ctrl + shift-click in opera , that i 'm very used to .
given that ctrl and shift ar one above the other on most keyboards ( yeah , i know smaller laptops like eees have it a bit different ) , that 's hardly an issue.as an opera user since versions... hard to recall , but version 5 was definitely my primary browser - i have two large issues with opera right now : ) 1. i ca n't add a field in ui that would take value entered , add it to an url and open that url in a new tab .
that 's very limiting - bet i could get is to open that url in a new tab...2. i just ca n't force it to NOT reload https pages when navigating back .
i 've set the maximal caching settings i could ever find , but it 's still RELOADING THE DAMN PAGES .
hey , opera engineers , wtf with this one ?
or the above one , for that matter... i 've posted on opera forums about both issues , no resolution.do n't misunderstand me , still loving opera and using any other browser very , very rarely : )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>hmm.
it's ctrl+shift-click in opera, that i'm very used to.
given that ctrl and shift ar one above the other on most keyboards (yeah, i know smaller laptops like eees have it a bit different), that's hardly an issue.as an opera user since versions... hard to recall, but version 5 was definitely my primary browser - i have two large issues with opera right now :)1. i can't add a field in ui that would take value entered, add it to an url and open that url in a new tab.
that's very limiting - bet i could get is to open that url in a new tab...2. i just can't force it to NOT reload https pages when navigating back.
i've set the maximal caching settings i could ever find, but it's still RELOADING THE DAMN PAGES.
hey, opera engineers, wtf with this one ?
or the above one, for that matter... i've posted on opera forums about both issues, no resolution.don't misunderstand me, still loving opera and using any other browser very, very rarely :)</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121282</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122160</id>
	<title>Re:Vega</title>
	<author>cupantae</author>
	<datestamp>1265980140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Redundant</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>VEGA has a girly voice, wears claws over his fists and climbs up the walls. What he's for is the enjoyment of seeing his mask and face bust in when you beat him.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>VEGA has a girly voice , wears claws over his fists and climbs up the walls .
What he 's for is the enjoyment of seeing his mask and face bust in when you beat him .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>VEGA has a girly voice, wears claws over his fists and climbs up the walls.
What he's for is the enjoyment of seeing his mask and face bust in when you beat him.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121412</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31126144</id>
	<title>Re:Still fails at trivial CSS rendering/1.5yr old</title>
	<author>hkmwbz</author>
	<datestamp>1266068160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Oh, it's you. You keep spamming Slashdot with the same trivial and irrelevant issue over and over again. Why?</htmltext>
<tokenext>Oh , it 's you .
You keep spamming Slashdot with the same trivial and irrelevant issue over and over again .
Why ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Oh, it's you.
You keep spamming Slashdot with the same trivial and irrelevant issue over and over again.
Why?</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121940</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31125640</id>
	<title>Re:stop speeding up javascript</title>
	<author>thetoadwarrior</author>
	<datestamp>1266059700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Judging by your hate for JS I would have to assume you're an IE6 user.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Judging by your hate for JS I would have to assume you 're an IE6 user .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Judging by your hate for JS I would have to assume you're an IE6 user.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121100</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31124676</id>
	<title>Funny you should mention Scheme...</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1266000000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Python, Ruby, or some dialect of Scheme</i></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript" title="wikipedia.org">"The key design principles within JavaScript are inherited from the Self and Scheme programming languages."</a> [wikipedia.org]</p><p>Javascript is almost already a <a href="http://community.schemewiki.org/?scheme-vs-javascript" title="schemewiki.org">dialect of Scheme</a> [schemewiki.org].  Are you sure you know Javascript as well as you think you do?   What would you want from a Scheme Variant you do not have today?</p><p>I can't find the reference, but on a StackOverflow podcast it was stated by one of the initial designers that the syntax initially even was very much like Scheme, but at the last moment they wanted to have it use a Java style syntax instead..</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Python , Ruby , or some dialect of Scheme " The key design principles within JavaScript are inherited from the Self and Scheme programming languages .
" [ wikipedia.org ] Javascript is almost already a dialect of Scheme [ schemewiki.org ] .
Are you sure you know Javascript as well as you think you do ?
What would you want from a Scheme Variant you do not have today ? I ca n't find the reference , but on a StackOverflow podcast it was stated by one of the initial designers that the syntax initially even was very much like Scheme , but at the last moment they wanted to have it use a Java style syntax instead. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Python, Ruby, or some dialect of Scheme"The key design principles within JavaScript are inherited from the Self and Scheme programming languages.
" [wikipedia.org]Javascript is almost already a dialect of Scheme [schemewiki.org].
Are you sure you know Javascript as well as you think you do?
What would you want from a Scheme Variant you do not have today?I can't find the reference, but on a StackOverflow podcast it was stated by one of the initial designers that the syntax initially even was very much like Scheme, but at the last moment they wanted to have it use a Java style syntax instead..</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121062</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121186</id>
	<title>Article Nonsense</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265975700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The two articles use different versions of Chrome.  Both version 5 developer build and release build 4 of Chrome are used, thus the discrepancy.  Pretty obvious really</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The two articles use different versions of Chrome .
Both version 5 developer build and release build 4 of Chrome are used , thus the discrepancy .
Pretty obvious really</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The two articles use different versions of Chrome.
Both version 5 developer build and release build 4 of Chrome are used, thus the discrepancy.
Pretty obvious really</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121386</id>
	<title>Windows ballot screen</title>
	<author>Tarmas</author>
	<datestamp>1265976600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>In case you didn't know, Opera wants to have a new version ready before the Windows browser ballot screen for the EU is in effect.</htmltext>
<tokenext>In case you did n't know , Opera wants to have a new version ready before the Windows browser ballot screen for the EU is in effect .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>In case you didn't know, Opera wants to have a new version ready before the Windows browser ballot screen for the EU is in effect.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121142</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121936</id>
	<title>HTML is not a Language....</title>
	<author>ArcadeNut</author>
	<datestamp>1265979120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It's a document format.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's a document format .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's a document format.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121100</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122034</id>
	<title>UI lead designer also created FF's icon</title>
	<author>Arty2</author>
	<datestamp>1265979540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>It's is also noteworthy that John Hicks of <a href="http://hicksdesign.co.uk/" title="hicksdesign.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://hicksdesign.co.uk/</a> [hicksdesign.co.uk] the guy that created the Firefox logo is now lead UI designer in Opera</htmltext>
<tokenext>It 's is also noteworthy that John Hicks of http : //hicksdesign.co.uk/ [ hicksdesign.co.uk ] the guy that created the Firefox logo is now lead UI designer in Opera</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It's is also noteworthy that John Hicks of http://hicksdesign.co.uk/ [hicksdesign.co.uk] the guy that created the Firefox logo is now lead UI designer in Opera</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31125210</id>
	<title>Re:Still fails at trivial CSS rendering/1.5yr old</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266093900000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Funny... no problems for me.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Funny... no problems for me .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Funny... no problems for me.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121940</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121434</id>
	<title>Shortcut to download the beta</title>
	<author>haruchai</author>
	<datestamp>1265976840000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>
&nbsp; Go  to <a href="http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=windows&amp;ver=10.50b1&amp;local=y" title="opera.com">http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=windows&amp;ver=10.50b1&amp;local=y</a> [opera.com]<br>to download as navigating from the info page on the features in 10.50 Beta returned an error</p><p>Looking forward to seeing how this performs as i've been using Opera for 10 years but FF have been my go-to browser<br>for the last 3.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>  Go to http : //www.opera.com/browser/download/ ? os = windows&amp;ver = 10.50b1&amp;local = y [ opera.com ] to download as navigating from the info page on the features in 10.50 Beta returned an errorLooking forward to seeing how this performs as i 've been using Opera for 10 years but FF have been my go-to browserfor the last 3 .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>
  Go  to http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?os=windows&amp;ver=10.50b1&amp;local=y [opera.com]to download as navigating from the info page on the features in 10.50 Beta returned an errorLooking forward to seeing how this performs as i've been using Opera for 10 years but FF have been my go-to browserfor the last 3.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31125346</id>
	<title>But...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266053760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>If the css implementation is shite, it is still shite. Can't make up for the visual suckiness with faster js.</htmltext>
<tokenext>If the css implementation is shite , it is still shite .
Ca n't make up for the visual suckiness with faster js .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the css implementation is shite, it is still shite.
Can't make up for the visual suckiness with faster js.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31122080</id>
	<title>Re:Why the obsession with javascript?</title>
	<author>Draek</author>
	<datestamp>1265979780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What is it? Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday? "Journalists" taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks? (written "for" Opera competitors BTW...)</p></div><p>Well, it's partly that, and partly that Javascript used to be the slowest part of a webpage by far.</p><p>But now that we have Flash, AJAX with its incessant server queries and broadband ubiquitous enough that web designers feel free to go crazy with the 1 MB images, I'm not sure Javascript alone is the bottleneck anymore. But for what is worth, Opera 9 with its 'ancient' Javascript engine was fast enough to provide a decent browsing experience on my old P1 166mhz laptop (though sans Flash), so I think any performance improvement, while welcome, will go largely unnoticed on my AthlonX2 computer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What is it ?
Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday ?
" Journalists " taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks ?
( written " for " Opera competitors BTW... ) Well , it 's partly that , and partly that Javascript used to be the slowest part of a webpage by far.But now that we have Flash , AJAX with its incessant server queries and broadband ubiquitous enough that web designers feel free to go crazy with the 1 MB images , I 'm not sure Javascript alone is the bottleneck anymore .
But for what is worth , Opera 9 with its 'ancient ' Javascript engine was fast enough to provide a decent browsing experience on my old P1 166mhz laptop ( though sans Flash ) , so I think any performance improvement , while welcome , will go largely unnoticed on my AthlonX2 computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What is it?
Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday?
"Journalists" taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks?
(written "for" Opera competitors BTW...)Well, it's partly that, and partly that Javascript used to be the slowest part of a webpage by far.But now that we have Flash, AJAX with its incessant server queries and broadband ubiquitous enough that web designers feel free to go crazy with the 1 MB images, I'm not sure Javascript alone is the bottleneck anymore.
But for what is worth, Opera 9 with its 'ancient' Javascript engine was fast enough to provide a decent browsing experience on my old P1 166mhz laptop (though sans Flash), so I think any performance improvement, while welcome, will go largely unnoticed on my AthlonX2 computer.
	</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121236</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121580</id>
	<title>Re:Let's just ditch JavaScript.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265977500000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>*cowers in shame* Yes, *sigh*, I did once write all of my client side browser code in vbscript.<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... For clients<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... That also used active X<nobr> <wbr></nobr>.... When Netscape was still relevant. I was young, naive and lacked a positive role model in my life.</p><p>*Raises head in pride* I met Larry wall. Well, not in person, but in spirit. So<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... I switched to perlscript!! I had to stop that after a period of time because "the man" couldn't handle my poetic genius.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>* cowers in shame * Yes , * sigh * , I did once write all of my client side browser code in vbscript .
... For clients .... That also used active X .... When Netscape was still relevant .
I was young , naive and lacked a positive role model in my life .
* Raises head in pride * I met Larry wall .
Well , not in person , but in spirit .
So ... I switched to perlscript ! !
I had to stop that after a period of time because " the man " could n't handle my poetic genius .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>*cowers in shame* Yes, *sigh*, I did once write all of my client side browser code in vbscript.
... For clients .... That also used active X .... When Netscape was still relevant.
I was young, naive and lacked a positive role model in my life.
*Raises head in pride* I met Larry wall.
Well, not in person, but in spirit.
So ... I switched to perlscript!!
I had to stop that after a period of time because "the man" couldn't handle my poetic genius.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121430</parent>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_192205.31121652</id>
	<title>lolwat</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265977860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>shut up, tranny</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>shut up , tranny</tokentext>
<sentencetext>shut up, tranny</sentencetext>
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