<article>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#article10_02_12_1814217</id>
	<title>IdeaPad U1, What We Wanted the iPad To Be</title>
	<author>CmdrTaco</author>
	<datestamp>1265962920000</datestamp>
	<htmltext>Xanator writes <i>"With the announcement of the iPad, the <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-hands-on-and-impressions/">Lenovo IdeaPad U1 Hybrid appears to have gone unnoticed</a>, but maybe we ought to pay it more attention. It's a netbook with a removable screen that turns it into a tablet (switching OS from Windows 7 to a tablet OS within 3 seconds), and it appears to offer what many of us wanted from the iPad. Quoting Engadget: 'When docked, the U1 looks and feels like any other laptop, with an Intel CULV processor and a 128GB SSD running Windows 7 Home Premium. You actually wouldn't know there's a slate hiding in there &mdash; until you pull it out and watch it switch to Lenovo's Skylight UI, a process that was smooth and quick for us. Lenovo says the goal is for the full switch to occur in under 3 seconds.'"</i></htmltext>
<tokenext>Xanator writes " With the announcement of the iPad , the Lenovo IdeaPad U1 Hybrid appears to have gone unnoticed , but maybe we ought to pay it more attention .
It 's a netbook with a removable screen that turns it into a tablet ( switching OS from Windows 7 to a tablet OS within 3 seconds ) , and it appears to offer what many of us wanted from the iPad .
Quoting Engadget : 'When docked , the U1 looks and feels like any other laptop , with an Intel CULV processor and a 128GB SSD running Windows 7 Home Premium .
You actually would n't know there 's a slate hiding in there    until you pull it out and watch it switch to Lenovo 's Skylight UI , a process that was smooth and quick for us .
Lenovo says the goal is for the full switch to occur in under 3 seconds .
' "</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Xanator writes "With the announcement of the iPad, the Lenovo IdeaPad U1 Hybrid appears to have gone unnoticed, but maybe we ought to pay it more attention.
It's a netbook with a removable screen that turns it into a tablet (switching OS from Windows 7 to a tablet OS within 3 seconds), and it appears to offer what many of us wanted from the iPad.
Quoting Engadget: 'When docked, the U1 looks and feels like any other laptop, with an Intel CULV processor and a 128GB SSD running Windows 7 Home Premium.
You actually wouldn't know there's a slate hiding in there — until you pull it out and watch it switch to Lenovo's Skylight UI, a process that was smooth and quick for us.
Lenovo says the goal is for the full switch to occur in under 3 seconds.
'"</sentencetext>
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	<title>Hate to nit-pick</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265968320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>a netbook with a removable screen that turns it into a tablet</p></div><p>Technically, this should be a netbook with a removable keyboard. All of the guts are behind the screen if they keyboard detaches. If you take a standard netbook and remove the screen, you have either a useless lcd or a headless computer.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>a netbook with a removable screen that turns it into a tabletTechnically , this should be a netbook with a removable keyboard .
All of the guts are behind the screen if they keyboard detaches .
If you take a standard netbook and remove the screen , you have either a useless lcd or a headless computer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>a netbook with a removable screen that turns it into a tabletTechnically, this should be a netbook with a removable keyboard.
All of the guts are behind the screen if they keyboard detaches.
If you take a standard netbook and remove the screen, you have either a useless lcd or a headless computer.
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118480</id>
	<title>Irrelevant?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265967780000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Availability of the U1 is unknown, so comparisons to the iPad aren't particularly fair or relevant. It seems quite likely Apple is taking a similar avenue for product development, too, while doing a better job of it--such as using capacitive touch, LED backlighting, a better battery, a proven touch UI, zillions of apps, and very possibly Mac OS X-based. I'm far less concerned about malware hidden in an Apple product, too, compared to a Lenovo product.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Availability of the U1 is unknown , so comparisons to the iPad are n't particularly fair or relevant .
It seems quite likely Apple is taking a similar avenue for product development , too , while doing a better job of it--such as using capacitive touch , LED backlighting , a better battery , a proven touch UI , zillions of apps , and very possibly Mac OS X-based .
I 'm far less concerned about malware hidden in an Apple product , too , compared to a Lenovo product .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Availability of the U1 is unknown, so comparisons to the iPad aren't particularly fair or relevant.
It seems quite likely Apple is taking a similar avenue for product development, too, while doing a better job of it--such as using capacitive touch, LED backlighting, a better battery, a proven touch UI, zillions of apps, and very possibly Mac OS X-based.
I'm far less concerned about malware hidden in an Apple product, too, compared to a Lenovo product.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118756</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>coolgeek</author>
	<datestamp>1265968440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Nobody was very impressed with the initial release of the iPod either.  It was overpriced, bulky, and seriously, $400 for a music player?  Like the iPod, the iPad will evolve.</p><p>Apple has succeeded in getting McGraw Hill signed on.  Once you can buy textbooks for half the price, which publishers will happily do to make sure they destroy the used book market, every college student will have one.  The iPad platform will evolve significantly before they graduate.  When those students are in decision making positions, they will find problems that will be solved by the iPad, and buy more.</p><p>And that's just one of its growth paths.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Nobody was very impressed with the initial release of the iPod either .
It was overpriced , bulky , and seriously , $ 400 for a music player ?
Like the iPod , the iPad will evolve.Apple has succeeded in getting McGraw Hill signed on .
Once you can buy textbooks for half the price , which publishers will happily do to make sure they destroy the used book market , every college student will have one .
The iPad platform will evolve significantly before they graduate .
When those students are in decision making positions , they will find problems that will be solved by the iPad , and buy more.And that 's just one of its growth paths .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Nobody was very impressed with the initial release of the iPod either.
It was overpriced, bulky, and seriously, $400 for a music player?
Like the iPod, the iPad will evolve.Apple has succeeded in getting McGraw Hill signed on.
Once you can buy textbooks for half the price, which publishers will happily do to make sure they destroy the used book market, every college student will have one.
The iPad platform will evolve significantly before they graduate.
When those students are in decision making positions, they will find problems that will be solved by the iPad, and buy more.And that's just one of its growth paths.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118382</id>
	<title>For the same price: iPad + MacBook Pro + 2 iPods</title>
	<author>gig</author>
	<datestamp>1265967540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lenovo was talking $1999 for this, and there is no availability date.</p><p>For the same price you can get an iPad, a MacBook Pro, an iPod touch, and an iPod shuffle. Then you have a desktop OS, a tablet OS, a pocket tablet OS, and a microscopic music player. You have 3 screens. All 4 items work simultaneously. The Mac is carved out of a block of aluminum and feels like it. All you bookmarks and contacts and music and photos sync between all of the devices automatically. The 3 devices with browsers all run HTML5 apps, and the Mac also runs BSD, Java, Python, Perl, PHP, Ruby, as well as Mac apps. A single iPhone app purchase puts the app on both tablets. A $50 Mac app runs other Intel operating systems in a window at full speed and with 3D graphics.</p><p>Just because you are a nerd that doesn't mean you don't have actual work to do. The action is in the software, not some convertible geegaws.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lenovo was talking $ 1999 for this , and there is no availability date.For the same price you can get an iPad , a MacBook Pro , an iPod touch , and an iPod shuffle .
Then you have a desktop OS , a tablet OS , a pocket tablet OS , and a microscopic music player .
You have 3 screens .
All 4 items work simultaneously .
The Mac is carved out of a block of aluminum and feels like it .
All you bookmarks and contacts and music and photos sync between all of the devices automatically .
The 3 devices with browsers all run HTML5 apps , and the Mac also runs BSD , Java , Python , Perl , PHP , Ruby , as well as Mac apps .
A single iPhone app purchase puts the app on both tablets .
A $ 50 Mac app runs other Intel operating systems in a window at full speed and with 3D graphics.Just because you are a nerd that does n't mean you do n't have actual work to do .
The action is in the software , not some convertible geegaws .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lenovo was talking $1999 for this, and there is no availability date.For the same price you can get an iPad, a MacBook Pro, an iPod touch, and an iPod shuffle.
Then you have a desktop OS, a tablet OS, a pocket tablet OS, and a microscopic music player.
You have 3 screens.
All 4 items work simultaneously.
The Mac is carved out of a block of aluminum and feels like it.
All you bookmarks and contacts and music and photos sync between all of the devices automatically.
The 3 devices with browsers all run HTML5 apps, and the Mac also runs BSD, Java, Python, Perl, PHP, Ruby, as well as Mac apps.
A single iPhone app purchase puts the app on both tablets.
A $50 Mac app runs other Intel operating systems in a window at full speed and with 3D graphics.Just because you are a nerd that doesn't mean you don't have actual work to do.
The action is in the software, not some convertible geegaws.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Watch the sleekness</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265968260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>"I'm going to show you how nice this is, just watch how seamlessly it flips on its...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Well, just a second...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... Ok hang on... let me flip it manually...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Oh wait, its not an iPad...<nobr> <wbr></nobr>...Oh well, it looks nice sideways, doesn't it?... Check out my iPad killer!!!!!!"</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>" I 'm going to show you how nice this is , just watch how seamlessly it flips on its... ...Well , just a second... ... Ok hang on... let me flip it manually... ...Oh wait , its not an iPad... ...Oh well , it looks nice sideways , does n't it ? .. .
Check out my iPad killer ! ! ! ! ! !
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I'm going to show you how nice this is, just watch how seamlessly it flips on its... ...Well, just a second... ... Ok hang on... let me flip it manually... ...Oh wait, its not an iPad... ...Oh well, it looks nice sideways, doesn't it?...
Check out my iPad killer!!!!!!
"</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31123050</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>indiechild</author>
	<datestamp>1265984640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Since when do Apple products "impress" with their hardware features? It's all about usability and great software.</p><p>My geek friends were all initially underwhelmed by the official iPad announcement. But now we're warming up to it. We see the possibilities provided by the software.</p><p>As for non-techie friends, they're all eager to try it when it's released.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Since when do Apple products " impress " with their hardware features ?
It 's all about usability and great software.My geek friends were all initially underwhelmed by the official iPad announcement .
But now we 're warming up to it .
We see the possibilities provided by the software.As for non-techie friends , they 're all eager to try it when it 's released .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Since when do Apple products "impress" with their hardware features?
It's all about usability and great software.My geek friends were all initially underwhelmed by the official iPad announcement.
But now we're warming up to it.
We see the possibilities provided by the software.As for non-techie friends, they're all eager to try it when it's released.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118702</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>RobinEggs</author>
	<datestamp>1265968380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Yeah, I over-emphasized a bit with the phrase "hard-core, tinker-happy nerds" but I still think the underlying point stands. You and your friends are probably underwhelmed because iPad isn't such a great product, but my point is that the IdeaPad is way beyond what anyone <i>should</i> have hoped for from Apple.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , I over-emphasized a bit with the phrase " hard-core , tinker-happy nerds " but I still think the underlying point stands .
You and your friends are probably underwhelmed because iPad is n't such a great product , but my point is that the IdeaPad is way beyond what anyone should have hoped for from Apple .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, I over-emphasized a bit with the phrase "hard-core, tinker-happy nerds" but I still think the underlying point stands.
You and your friends are probably underwhelmed because iPad isn't such a great product, but my point is that the IdeaPad is way beyond what anyone should have hoped for from Apple.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31124132</id>
	<title>Re:I don't want a tablet that's a computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265994000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't want all the bother of a computer.  I already have that.  For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online.  I want it to be easy.  I don't really want to mess with the file system.  I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware.  I don't want to have to mess with drivers.  I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network).  I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.  I bet the iPad will do that and do it well.  I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.</p></div><p>Sounds like a certain someone works for Apple? Wow, that sounded just like the kind of spiel Steve Jobs might give us haha</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want all the bother of a computer .
I already have that .
For a tablet/slate , I just want to run a few apps/games and get online .
I want it to be easy .
I do n't really want to mess with the file system .
I do n't want a browser that 's vulnerable to malware .
I do n't want to have to mess with drivers .
I do n't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet ( or worse , dick around with file sharing over a network ) .
I just want the damn thing to do apps , games and Internet without any fuss .
I bet the iPad will do that and do it well .
I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.Sounds like a certain someone works for Apple ?
Wow , that sounded just like the kind of spiel Steve Jobs might give us haha</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want all the bother of a computer.
I already have that.
For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online.
I want it to be easy.
I don't really want to mess with the file system.
I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware.
I don't want to have to mess with drivers.
I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network).
I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.
I bet the iPad will do that and do it well.
I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.Sounds like a certain someone works for Apple?
Wow, that sounded just like the kind of spiel Steve Jobs might give us haha
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119606</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265970600000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I disagree. Most of my friends are <strong>not</strong> hard core tinker happy nerds. And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad. In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.</p><p>Not one.</p></div><p>We are going to see, once again, that nerds don't know a lot of people.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree .
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds .
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad .
In fact , I do n't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one.We are going to see , once again , that nerds do n't know a lot of people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree.
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds.
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad.
In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one.We are going to see, once again, that nerds don't know a lot of people.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31122336</id>
	<title>Google and Apple...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265980800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>...can't fart without over hyped media publicity.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>...ca n't fart without over hyped media publicity .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>...can't fart without over hyped media publicity.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119064</id>
	<title>Cute; but...</title>
	<author>fuzzyfuzzyfungus</author>
	<datestamp>1265969220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>It is always nice to see one of the PC OEMs take a break from shoving intel reference designs into ugly boxes at lowest possible cost(don't get me wrong, this is their highest virtue, is what has made computers accessible to so much of the world, and is certainly what I prefer to buy; but it really isn't very interesting to watch) and go out on a limb a bit.<br> <br>

That said, the concept doesn't really "click" with me. First, there is just the fact that complexity without <i>very</i> good reason is the enemy. If you hold price constant, increased complexity will tank your quality. If you hold quality constant, increased complexity will spike your price. The U1, compared to an ordinary netbook, has the disadvantage of two batteries(one primary, one embedded in the screen/tablet thing), two system boards(ditto, though the tablet one should be a lot smaller), and a potentially unreliable combination mechanical/electrical connector right at the hinge(when docked, the tablet unit will need to receive power, video, and data from the primary unit). This connector/hinge will have to survive numerous matings and unmatings and openings and closings without getting flaky or frustrating. If it rattles, or has to be docked two or three times to get it to go back into notebook mode, or has to be docked <i>just right</i> or whatever, that will be hugely annoying. I'm not saying that this will be impossible to get right, just that it will either drive up cost substantially, or not be done in a way that will still be endurable six months after purchase.<br> <br>

Second, and ultimately much trickier, is the question of the relationship between the main unit and the tablet unit. TFA, and other articles, suggest that Lenovo has made an attempt to have some useful interaction between the two. If you are browsing a webpage on the main when you tear the tablet off, the page will be loaded in the tablet's browser, that sort of thing. I'd assume the same would go for a few common document types. That worries me. It is exactly the sort of thing that would work perfectly in sci-fi world, where people are constantly passing wireless screens from person to person, and human computers can interact with alien spaceships, and whatnot. Real world, though, it is going to get ugly. The main unit is running Windows 7. The tablet is running on an ARM core, so it is almost certainly running CE or Linux. This means that, for a subset of all common tasks, tearing off the tablet will provide almost seamless continuity, with the right wedge of helper software and a bit of luck. Open a PDF, peel off the tablet, read happily, hurray! However, the set of document types and system activities that are equally supported between full windows and linux or WinCE is far smaller than the total set of document types and system activities. Worse, the set has ragged edges.<br> <br>

Consider, you open a PDF, tear off the tablet, read happily. It all works perfectly. Then, one day, it fails with some cryptic error. Whoops. That PDF had one of the newer PDF DRM schemes, and Adobe supports Reader on Windows more aggressively than whatever Lenovo has baked into the tablet. There goes your happy workflow. And, unless you are at least a little techy, and paying attention, you won't even understand why one thing worked and another didn't. Similar things can be imagined with regard to web pages, or word documents. Simply opening whatever URL was open in the foreground session of IE in the browser of the tablet should be trivial enough. Keeping cookies in sync might even be doable. However, there is surely a subset of sites that will absolutely freak out and refuse to provide anything resembling a continuous session when a user suddenly disappears from IE8 on Win7 and reappears on a completely different browser(and quite possibly IP, unless some funky network stack trickery is going on). Most likely, you'll just be kicked back to the login screen, and have to log in again using the tablet touch-keyboard, which will really break your flow. I'm sure some sites will work just fine, a</htmltext>
<tokenext>It is always nice to see one of the PC OEMs take a break from shoving intel reference designs into ugly boxes at lowest possible cost ( do n't get me wrong , this is their highest virtue , is what has made computers accessible to so much of the world , and is certainly what I prefer to buy ; but it really is n't very interesting to watch ) and go out on a limb a bit .
That said , the concept does n't really " click " with me .
First , there is just the fact that complexity without very good reason is the enemy .
If you hold price constant , increased complexity will tank your quality .
If you hold quality constant , increased complexity will spike your price .
The U1 , compared to an ordinary netbook , has the disadvantage of two batteries ( one primary , one embedded in the screen/tablet thing ) , two system boards ( ditto , though the tablet one should be a lot smaller ) , and a potentially unreliable combination mechanical/electrical connector right at the hinge ( when docked , the tablet unit will need to receive power , video , and data from the primary unit ) .
This connector/hinge will have to survive numerous matings and unmatings and openings and closings without getting flaky or frustrating .
If it rattles , or has to be docked two or three times to get it to go back into notebook mode , or has to be docked just right or whatever , that will be hugely annoying .
I 'm not saying that this will be impossible to get right , just that it will either drive up cost substantially , or not be done in a way that will still be endurable six months after purchase .
Second , and ultimately much trickier , is the question of the relationship between the main unit and the tablet unit .
TFA , and other articles , suggest that Lenovo has made an attempt to have some useful interaction between the two .
If you are browsing a webpage on the main when you tear the tablet off , the page will be loaded in the tablet 's browser , that sort of thing .
I 'd assume the same would go for a few common document types .
That worries me .
It is exactly the sort of thing that would work perfectly in sci-fi world , where people are constantly passing wireless screens from person to person , and human computers can interact with alien spaceships , and whatnot .
Real world , though , it is going to get ugly .
The main unit is running Windows 7 .
The tablet is running on an ARM core , so it is almost certainly running CE or Linux .
This means that , for a subset of all common tasks , tearing off the tablet will provide almost seamless continuity , with the right wedge of helper software and a bit of luck .
Open a PDF , peel off the tablet , read happily , hurray !
However , the set of document types and system activities that are equally supported between full windows and linux or WinCE is far smaller than the total set of document types and system activities .
Worse , the set has ragged edges .
Consider , you open a PDF , tear off the tablet , read happily .
It all works perfectly .
Then , one day , it fails with some cryptic error .
Whoops. That PDF had one of the newer PDF DRM schemes , and Adobe supports Reader on Windows more aggressively than whatever Lenovo has baked into the tablet .
There goes your happy workflow .
And , unless you are at least a little techy , and paying attention , you wo n't even understand why one thing worked and another did n't .
Similar things can be imagined with regard to web pages , or word documents .
Simply opening whatever URL was open in the foreground session of IE in the browser of the tablet should be trivial enough .
Keeping cookies in sync might even be doable .
However , there is surely a subset of sites that will absolutely freak out and refuse to provide anything resembling a continuous session when a user suddenly disappears from IE8 on Win7 and reappears on a completely different browser ( and quite possibly IP , unless some funky network stack trickery is going on ) .
Most likely , you 'll just be kicked back to the login screen , and have to log in again using the tablet touch-keyboard , which will really break your flow .
I 'm sure some sites will work just fine , a</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It is always nice to see one of the PC OEMs take a break from shoving intel reference designs into ugly boxes at lowest possible cost(don't get me wrong, this is their highest virtue, is what has made computers accessible to so much of the world, and is certainly what I prefer to buy; but it really isn't very interesting to watch) and go out on a limb a bit.
That said, the concept doesn't really "click" with me.
First, there is just the fact that complexity without very good reason is the enemy.
If you hold price constant, increased complexity will tank your quality.
If you hold quality constant, increased complexity will spike your price.
The U1, compared to an ordinary netbook, has the disadvantage of two batteries(one primary, one embedded in the screen/tablet thing), two system boards(ditto, though the tablet one should be a lot smaller), and a potentially unreliable combination mechanical/electrical connector right at the hinge(when docked, the tablet unit will need to receive power, video, and data from the primary unit).
This connector/hinge will have to survive numerous matings and unmatings and openings and closings without getting flaky or frustrating.
If it rattles, or has to be docked two or three times to get it to go back into notebook mode, or has to be docked just right or whatever, that will be hugely annoying.
I'm not saying that this will be impossible to get right, just that it will either drive up cost substantially, or not be done in a way that will still be endurable six months after purchase.
Second, and ultimately much trickier, is the question of the relationship between the main unit and the tablet unit.
TFA, and other articles, suggest that Lenovo has made an attempt to have some useful interaction between the two.
If you are browsing a webpage on the main when you tear the tablet off, the page will be loaded in the tablet's browser, that sort of thing.
I'd assume the same would go for a few common document types.
That worries me.
It is exactly the sort of thing that would work perfectly in sci-fi world, where people are constantly passing wireless screens from person to person, and human computers can interact with alien spaceships, and whatnot.
Real world, though, it is going to get ugly.
The main unit is running Windows 7.
The tablet is running on an ARM core, so it is almost certainly running CE or Linux.
This means that, for a subset of all common tasks, tearing off the tablet will provide almost seamless continuity, with the right wedge of helper software and a bit of luck.
Open a PDF, peel off the tablet, read happily, hurray!
However, the set of document types and system activities that are equally supported between full windows and linux or WinCE is far smaller than the total set of document types and system activities.
Worse, the set has ragged edges.
Consider, you open a PDF, tear off the tablet, read happily.
It all works perfectly.
Then, one day, it fails with some cryptic error.
Whoops. That PDF had one of the newer PDF DRM schemes, and Adobe supports Reader on Windows more aggressively than whatever Lenovo has baked into the tablet.
There goes your happy workflow.
And, unless you are at least a little techy, and paying attention, you won't even understand why one thing worked and another didn't.
Similar things can be imagined with regard to web pages, or word documents.
Simply opening whatever URL was open in the foreground session of IE in the browser of the tablet should be trivial enough.
Keeping cookies in sync might even be doable.
However, there is surely a subset of sites that will absolutely freak out and refuse to provide anything resembling a continuous session when a user suddenly disappears from IE8 on Win7 and reappears on a completely different browser(and quite possibly IP, unless some funky network stack trickery is going on).
Most likely, you'll just be kicked back to the login screen, and have to log in again using the tablet touch-keyboard, which will really break your flow.
I'm sure some sites will work just fine, a</sentencetext>
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	<title>Screen is a rather crucial part</title>
	<author>Pretbek</author>
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	<htmltext><p>FTFA:<br>"Unfortunately, the screen itself was pretty abysmal".</p><p>I dunno, but that would ruin the entire device for me, no matter what clever functionality or packaging it harbors. The screen is such an important part, because it is in your face all the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>FTFA : " Unfortunately , the screen itself was pretty abysmal " .I dunno , but that would ruin the entire device for me , no matter what clever functionality or packaging it harbors .
The screen is such an important part , because it is in your face all the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTFA:"Unfortunately, the screen itself was pretty abysmal".I dunno, but that would ruin the entire device for me, no matter what clever functionality or packaging it harbors.
The screen is such an important part, because it is in your face all the time.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Backwayround thinking</title>
	<author>chilvence</author>
	<datestamp>1265985360000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>As someone who has pined for a decent affordable PC based tablet for years (so I can switch between doodling in painter and mucking about with classic Command and Conquer with a stylus, as God always intended from the beginning) I have to say this is the worst idea I have ever seen in the history of tablet PC's. Why would anyone want to use the in house built operating system over a standard, established OS? The only people who've ever gotten away with that is Apple! It's the worst case scenario of the crapware that gets shoveled into brand name laptops, only this time it isnt just plastered into the OS, it is an OS in itself!</p><p>Instead of doing something intelligent, like combining the guts of the computer into the tablet part and having a super cool detachable keyboard/disc drive dock/heat induction leg warmer module, so you have a dual purpose machine that plays nice with all existing software you can name, they have come up with a hideous schizoid machine with two identities, which will no doubt be hastily stiched together with even more sub-useful crapware... and only because they have approached the idea from the wrong angle!</p><p>If you want a convertible dual purpose tablet, its probably because you would like to have a tablet, but haven't convinced yourself you can live without the keyboard yet. So how can you get any more straightforward than a tablet that acts as a tablet most of the time but then quickly and painlessly reverts back to a laptop when you realise you want to type a novel out in word?</p><p>Oh well, I guess sometimes the most obvious solution is too obvious for some...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>As someone who has pined for a decent affordable PC based tablet for years ( so I can switch between doodling in painter and mucking about with classic Command and Conquer with a stylus , as God always intended from the beginning ) I have to say this is the worst idea I have ever seen in the history of tablet PC 's .
Why would anyone want to use the in house built operating system over a standard , established OS ?
The only people who 've ever gotten away with that is Apple !
It 's the worst case scenario of the crapware that gets shoveled into brand name laptops , only this time it isnt just plastered into the OS , it is an OS in itself ! Instead of doing something intelligent , like combining the guts of the computer into the tablet part and having a super cool detachable keyboard/disc drive dock/heat induction leg warmer module , so you have a dual purpose machine that plays nice with all existing software you can name , they have come up with a hideous schizoid machine with two identities , which will no doubt be hastily stiched together with even more sub-useful crapware... and only because they have approached the idea from the wrong angle ! If you want a convertible dual purpose tablet , its probably because you would like to have a tablet , but have n't convinced yourself you can live without the keyboard yet .
So how can you get any more straightforward than a tablet that acts as a tablet most of the time but then quickly and painlessly reverts back to a laptop when you realise you want to type a novel out in word ? Oh well , I guess sometimes the most obvious solution is too obvious for some.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>As someone who has pined for a decent affordable PC based tablet for years (so I can switch between doodling in painter and mucking about with classic Command and Conquer with a stylus, as God always intended from the beginning) I have to say this is the worst idea I have ever seen in the history of tablet PC's.
Why would anyone want to use the in house built operating system over a standard, established OS?
The only people who've ever gotten away with that is Apple!
It's the worst case scenario of the crapware that gets shoveled into brand name laptops, only this time it isnt just plastered into the OS, it is an OS in itself!Instead of doing something intelligent, like combining the guts of the computer into the tablet part and having a super cool detachable keyboard/disc drive dock/heat induction leg warmer module, so you have a dual purpose machine that plays nice with all existing software you can name, they have come up with a hideous schizoid machine with two identities, which will no doubt be hastily stiched together with even more sub-useful crapware... and only because they have approached the idea from the wrong angle!If you want a convertible dual purpose tablet, its probably because you would like to have a tablet, but haven't convinced yourself you can live without the keyboard yet.
So how can you get any more straightforward than a tablet that acts as a tablet most of the time but then quickly and painlessly reverts back to a laptop when you realise you want to type a novel out in word?Oh well, I guess sometimes the most obvious solution is too obvious for some...</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:Here's why.</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1266059220000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>The Ipad isn't going for anything right now, because it's not yet released - it's vaporware. If and when it is, we can compare prices to the available competition. Otherwise I might as well write how the new AmigaPad is going to be much better at only $399.</p><p>Though it would still be way more expensive than any netbook.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Ipad is n't going for anything right now , because it 's not yet released - it 's vaporware .
If and when it is , we can compare prices to the available competition .
Otherwise I might as well write how the new AmigaPad is going to be much better at only $ 399.Though it would still be way more expensive than any netbook .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Ipad isn't going for anything right now, because it's not yet released - it's vaporware.
If and when it is, we can compare prices to the available competition.
Otherwise I might as well write how the new AmigaPad is going to be much better at only $399.Though it would still be way more expensive than any netbook.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>momerath2003</author>
	<datestamp>1265978040000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>The original iPod wasn't bulky, but quite the opposite. The form factor was one of its selling points. It was the first gigabyte-order music player to be the size of a deck of cards, since it used a 1.5" drive instead of the 2.5" drives that other HD-based music players had at the time.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The original iPod was n't bulky , but quite the opposite .
The form factor was one of its selling points .
It was the first gigabyte-order music player to be the size of a deck of cards , since it used a 1.5 " drive instead of the 2.5 " drives that other HD-based music players had at the time .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The original iPod wasn't bulky, but quite the opposite.
The form factor was one of its selling points.
It was the first gigabyte-order music player to be the size of a deck of cards, since it used a 1.5" drive instead of the 2.5" drives that other HD-based music players had at the time.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265969940000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>yeah, until they use one, much like the iPod. no one gave a shit until they used one and thought "this is how an mp3 player should be" these will just sneak their way in and one day they will be ubiquitous. Most that i've talked to have no other feelings than "hrmm, i'd like to check one out".</p><p>
&nbsp; Even from the ideapad demovideo , it is an awesome idea but look at how unresponsive the interface is (note when he tries to scrol and it dosent several times) and how crappy the screen is. it is a dog. i'd never buy that. the beauty of the iPad is that you never realize you're using a computer. it's just an incredibly tactile data/entertainment portal.</p><p>-S</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>yeah , until they use one , much like the iPod .
no one gave a shit until they used one and thought " this is how an mp3 player should be " these will just sneak their way in and one day they will be ubiquitous .
Most that i 've talked to have no other feelings than " hrmm , i 'd like to check one out " .
  Even from the ideapad demovideo , it is an awesome idea but look at how unresponsive the interface is ( note when he tries to scrol and it dosent several times ) and how crappy the screen is .
it is a dog .
i 'd never buy that .
the beauty of the iPad is that you never realize you 're using a computer .
it 's just an incredibly tactile data/entertainment portal.-S</tokentext>
<sentencetext>yeah, until they use one, much like the iPod.
no one gave a shit until they used one and thought "this is how an mp3 player should be" these will just sneak their way in and one day they will be ubiquitous.
Most that i've talked to have no other feelings than "hrmm, i'd like to check one out".
  Even from the ideapad demovideo , it is an awesome idea but look at how unresponsive the interface is (note when he tries to scrol and it dosent several times) and how crappy the screen is.
it is a dog.
i'd never buy that.
the beauty of the iPad is that you never realize you're using a computer.
it's just an incredibly tactile data/entertainment portal.-S</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>shaper</author>
	<datestamp>1265975700000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Anecdote, meet anecdote:</p><p>I want one.  Every single person I have shown it to wants one.</p><p>Every one.</p><p>(and yes, I did show it to more than one person.)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Anecdote , meet anecdote : I want one .
Every single person I have shown it to wants one.Every one .
( and yes , I did show it to more than one person .
)</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Anecdote, meet anecdote:I want one.
Every single person I have shown it to wants one.Every one.
(and yes, I did show it to more than one person.
)</sentencetext>
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	<title>Convertible tablets</title>
	<author>gmuslera</author>
	<datestamp>1265972700000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext>This IdeaPad U1 is nice, but you have a basically different computer when you have the keyboard than when not. A better approach are convertible tablets, like i.e. from the same manufacturer <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/01/hands-on-lenovo-s10/" title="wired.com">IdeaPad s10-3t</a> [wired.com], you can turn the capacitive touchscreen to make it look like a tablet, is the same OS in both cases, 10 hours of battery, and a reasonable price. Is definately bulkier than the iPad, but have several advantages over it.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This IdeaPad U1 is nice , but you have a basically different computer when you have the keyboard than when not .
A better approach are convertible tablets , like i.e .
from the same manufacturer IdeaPad s10-3t [ wired.com ] , you can turn the capacitive touchscreen to make it look like a tablet , is the same OS in both cases , 10 hours of battery , and a reasonable price .
Is definately bulkier than the iPad , but have several advantages over it .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This IdeaPad U1 is nice, but you have a basically different computer when you have the keyboard than when not.
A better approach are convertible tablets, like i.e.
from the same manufacturer IdeaPad s10-3t [wired.com], you can turn the capacitive touchscreen to make it look like a tablet, is the same OS in both cases, 10 hours of battery, and a reasonable price.
Is definately bulkier than the iPad, but have several advantages over it.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31130276</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1266058800000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p><i>How many of those friends have an iPhone?</i></p><p>If we go by market figures, less than 5\%.</p><p><i>If even a fraction of the people with iPhones will buy an iPad then it will be a success.</i></p><p>A fraction of a small fraction<nobr> <wbr></nobr>... well sure, I'm sure Apple will make money from it. They've always preferred to make money by selling expensive products to a niche, rather than better value products to a larger market. Good luck to them. But if the sales are only a fraction of the Iphones' total sales, it won't be anything worthy of special media attention, especially not the disproportionate hype that the vaporware is getting write now.</p><p><i>Apple is selling this as a new way to experience the internet.</i></p><p>New way? What new way is this?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How many of those friends have an iPhone ? If we go by market figures , less than 5 \ % .If even a fraction of the people with iPhones will buy an iPad then it will be a success.A fraction of a small fraction ... well sure , I 'm sure Apple will make money from it .
They 've always preferred to make money by selling expensive products to a niche , rather than better value products to a larger market .
Good luck to them .
But if the sales are only a fraction of the Iphones ' total sales , it wo n't be anything worthy of special media attention , especially not the disproportionate hype that the vaporware is getting write now.Apple is selling this as a new way to experience the internet.New way ?
What new way is this ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How many of those friends have an iPhone?If we go by market figures, less than 5\%.If even a fraction of the people with iPhones will buy an iPad then it will be a success.A fraction of a small fraction ... well sure, I'm sure Apple will make money from it.
They've always preferred to make money by selling expensive products to a niche, rather than better value products to a larger market.
Good luck to them.
But if the sales are only a fraction of the Iphones' total sales, it won't be anything worthy of special media attention, especially not the disproportionate hype that the vaporware is getting write now.Apple is selling this as a new way to experience the internet.New way?
What new way is this?</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I don't want a tablet that's a computer</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1265974920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I don't want all the bother of a computer.  I already have that.  For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online.  I want it to be easy.  I don't really want to mess with the file system.  I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware.  I don't want to have to mess with drivers.  I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network).  I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.  I bet the iPad will do that and do it well.  I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.</p></div><p>I dont want to have to dick around with my computer, for that matter... whats your point?</p></div>
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<tokenext>I do n't want all the bother of a computer .
I already have that .
For a tablet/slate , I just want to run a few apps/games and get online .
I want it to be easy .
I do n't really want to mess with the file system .
I do n't want a browser that 's vulnerable to malware .
I do n't want to have to mess with drivers .
I do n't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet ( or worse , dick around with file sharing over a network ) .
I just want the damn thing to do apps , games and Internet without any fuss .
I bet the iPad will do that and do it well .
I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.I dont want to have to dick around with my computer , for that matter... whats your point ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want all the bother of a computer.
I already have that.
For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online.
I want it to be easy.
I don't really want to mess with the file system.
I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware.
I don't want to have to mess with drivers.
I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network).
I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.
I bet the iPad will do that and do it well.
I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.I dont want to have to dick around with my computer, for that matter... whats your point?
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	<title>The Ipod Fallacy</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1266058680000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Ah yes, it's the Ipod Fallacy, a classic logical fallacy of those enveloped by the RDF.</p><p>"The Ipod wasn't impressive to start with, yet it became very popular, therefore this new Apple device which is unimpressive will also be popular!"</p><p>If you say so. What's the current market share of Macs, or Iphones, btw? The Ipod is a one hit wonder - good enough for a company, sure, but it's a fallacy to assume that therefore every Apple product is now going to have the same success.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Ah yes , it 's the Ipod Fallacy , a classic logical fallacy of those enveloped by the RDF .
" The Ipod was n't impressive to start with , yet it became very popular , therefore this new Apple device which is unimpressive will also be popular !
" If you say so .
What 's the current market share of Macs , or Iphones , btw ?
The Ipod is a one hit wonder - good enough for a company , sure , but it 's a fallacy to assume that therefore every Apple product is now going to have the same success .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Ah yes, it's the Ipod Fallacy, a classic logical fallacy of those enveloped by the RDF.
"The Ipod wasn't impressive to start with, yet it became very popular, therefore this new Apple device which is unimpressive will also be popular!
"If you say so.
What's the current market share of Macs, or Iphones, btw?
The Ipod is a one hit wonder - good enough for a company, sure, but it's a fallacy to assume that therefore every Apple product is now going to have the same success.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:I don't want a tablet that's a computer</title>
	<author>Rossman</author>
	<datestamp>1265984820000</datestamp>
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	<htmltext><p>Uh, do you work for Apple, or are you just....not that bright?</p><p>"don't want to mess with the filesystem" - wait, what?  who does that these days, and not only that, how is it a requirement of a Windows computer?  at no point is this ever required.<br>"don't want a browser vulnerable to malware" - you can choose any browser you want on Windows, no-one is required to use IE.<br>"don't want to mess with drivers" - honestly, when was the last time you had to do this?  Since XP and later generally shit just works.<br>"(or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network)" - uh, since when is this complicated.  i open explorer, i click another computer on my network, get prompted for a username, i enter it, and it works - it's so simple it's not even funny, and it's pretty comparable to networking on OSX as a matter of fact.</p><p>Your "arguments" aren't really valid, it's as though the last time you used Windows was back at version 3.11.  Either that or you just enjoy spreading FUD in service to the mighty Steve Jobs.  I'm getting so tired of people parroting arguments against Windows that haven't been valid for many, many years.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Uh , do you work for Apple , or are you just....not that bright ?
" do n't want to mess with the filesystem " - wait , what ?
who does that these days , and not only that , how is it a requirement of a Windows computer ?
at no point is this ever required .
" do n't want a browser vulnerable to malware " - you can choose any browser you want on Windows , no-one is required to use IE .
" do n't want to mess with drivers " - honestly , when was the last time you had to do this ?
Since XP and later generally shit just works .
" ( or worse , dick around with file sharing over a network ) " - uh , since when is this complicated .
i open explorer , i click another computer on my network , get prompted for a username , i enter it , and it works - it 's so simple it 's not even funny , and it 's pretty comparable to networking on OSX as a matter of fact.Your " arguments " are n't really valid , it 's as though the last time you used Windows was back at version 3.11 .
Either that or you just enjoy spreading FUD in service to the mighty Steve Jobs .
I 'm getting so tired of people parroting arguments against Windows that have n't been valid for many , many years .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Uh, do you work for Apple, or are you just....not that bright?
"don't want to mess with the filesystem" - wait, what?
who does that these days, and not only that, how is it a requirement of a Windows computer?
at no point is this ever required.
"don't want a browser vulnerable to malware" - you can choose any browser you want on Windows, no-one is required to use IE.
"don't want to mess with drivers" - honestly, when was the last time you had to do this?
Since XP and later generally shit just works.
"(or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network)" - uh, since when is this complicated.
i open explorer, i click another computer on my network, get prompted for a username, i enter it, and it works - it's so simple it's not even funny, and it's pretty comparable to networking on OSX as a matter of fact.Your "arguments" aren't really valid, it's as though the last time you used Windows was back at version 3.11.
Either that or you just enjoy spreading FUD in service to the mighty Steve Jobs.
I'm getting so tired of people parroting arguments against Windows that haven't been valid for many, many years.</sentencetext>
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	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Corporate Drone</author>
	<datestamp>1265973060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
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	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds. And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad. In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.</p><p>Not one.</p></div><p>The "magic" of the iPad, if there is such a thing, is not in its tech specs; it's in the types of apps that can be brought to market, given the new platform's capabilities. Could it be stuffed with more toys? Of course. However, here's the deal: the iPad will take off, based partially on fanboi sales, and partially on "mom and pop" sales -- mark my words, this is the "notebook computer" your parents (or grandparents) want, since it'll be so easy to use, and so difficult to muck up.</p><p>Once it's done gaining a beachhead, the iPad will then start to sprout additional hardware capabilities. Eventually, it'll come close to what "we" want it to be.</p><p>To use a WWII analogy, this is D-Day: a tough landing to make, and not one that will appear particularly impressive, but one that will provide the opportunity for future growth and expansion. Other tablets are taking an "Operation Market Garden" approach -- high risk, with a win-big-or-fail-impressively payoffs, which will fade away and be largely forgotten, once the iPad strategy proves itself effective.</p><p>Will I buy an iPad v1? Hell, no! But, maybe, come Christmas buying season, if there's a v2 that has added enough features, while giving the software and book markets time to catch up... yeah, maybe then I'll plunk down my cash.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds .
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad .
In fact , I do n't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one.The " magic " of the iPad , if there is such a thing , is not in its tech specs ; it 's in the types of apps that can be brought to market , given the new platform 's capabilities .
Could it be stuffed with more toys ?
Of course .
However , here 's the deal : the iPad will take off , based partially on fanboi sales , and partially on " mom and pop " sales -- mark my words , this is the " notebook computer " your parents ( or grandparents ) want , since it 'll be so easy to use , and so difficult to muck up.Once it 's done gaining a beachhead , the iPad will then start to sprout additional hardware capabilities .
Eventually , it 'll come close to what " we " want it to be.To use a WWII analogy , this is D-Day : a tough landing to make , and not one that will appear particularly impressive , but one that will provide the opportunity for future growth and expansion .
Other tablets are taking an " Operation Market Garden " approach -- high risk , with a win-big-or-fail-impressively payoffs , which will fade away and be largely forgotten , once the iPad strategy proves itself effective.Will I buy an iPad v1 ?
Hell , no !
But , maybe , come Christmas buying season , if there 's a v2 that has added enough features , while giving the software and book markets time to catch up... yeah , maybe then I 'll plunk down my cash .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds.
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad.
In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one.The "magic" of the iPad, if there is such a thing, is not in its tech specs; it's in the types of apps that can be brought to market, given the new platform's capabilities.
Could it be stuffed with more toys?
Of course.
However, here's the deal: the iPad will take off, based partially on fanboi sales, and partially on "mom and pop" sales -- mark my words, this is the "notebook computer" your parents (or grandparents) want, since it'll be so easy to use, and so difficult to muck up.Once it's done gaining a beachhead, the iPad will then start to sprout additional hardware capabilities.
Eventually, it'll come close to what "we" want it to be.To use a WWII analogy, this is D-Day: a tough landing to make, and not one that will appear particularly impressive, but one that will provide the opportunity for future growth and expansion.
Other tablets are taking an "Operation Market Garden" approach -- high risk, with a win-big-or-fail-impressively payoffs, which will fade away and be largely forgotten, once the iPad strategy proves itself effective.Will I buy an iPad v1?
Hell, no!
But, maybe, come Christmas buying season, if there's a v2 that has added enough features, while giving the software and book markets time to catch up... yeah, maybe then I'll plunk down my cash.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31125810</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1266062400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>How may of those friends have an iPhone?</i></p><p>3. But 2 of those are work phones, which were provided with heavy subsidy.<br>Only one friend outright bought the iPhone, and he waited until the 3GS model.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>How may of those friends have an iPhone ? 3 .
But 2 of those are work phones , which were provided with heavy subsidy.Only one friend outright bought the iPhone , and he waited until the 3GS model .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>How may of those friends have an iPhone?3.
But 2 of those are work phones, which were provided with heavy subsidy.Only one friend outright bought the iPhone, and he waited until the 3GS model.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118302</id>
	<title>I don't want a tablet that's a computer</title>
	<author>bwalling</author>
	<datestamp>1265967360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't want all the bother of a computer.  I already have that.  For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online.  I want it to be easy.  I don't really want to mess with the file system.  I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware.  I don't want to have to mess with drivers.  I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network).  I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.  I bet the iPad will do that and do it well.  I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't want all the bother of a computer .
I already have that .
For a tablet/slate , I just want to run a few apps/games and get online .
I want it to be easy .
I do n't really want to mess with the file system .
I do n't want a browser that 's vulnerable to malware .
I do n't want to have to mess with drivers .
I do n't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet ( or worse , dick around with file sharing over a network ) .
I just want the damn thing to do apps , games and Internet without any fuss .
I bet the iPad will do that and do it well .
I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't want all the bother of a computer.
I already have that.
For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online.
I want it to be easy.
I don't really want to mess with the file system.
I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware.
I don't want to have to mess with drivers.
I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network).
I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.
I bet the iPad will do that and do it well.
I just wish some of the competitors actually understood that concept.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31121832</id>
	<title>CmdrTaco approves?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265978640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Then it must be guaranteed to fail.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Then it must be guaranteed to fail .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Then it must be guaranteed to fail.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119450</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>nicknamenotavailable</author>
	<datestamp>1265970300000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>I disagree. Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds. And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad. In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.</p></div><p>How many of those friends have an iPhone?</p><p>If even a fraction of the people with iPhones will buy an iPad then it will be a success.</p><p>Apple is selling this as a new way to experience the internet. The hardware to accomplish this is not as impressive as the software.</p><p>Ideally - iPad software on something like the IdeaPad U1 would be great, but for now I think (for most people) a half-as-powerful Apple product has a better user-experience than a far superior (hardware-wise) product running another OS.</p><p>As for myself, if I had an iPad - then for me the priority would be to get an OS I can compile myself on it.<br>But I'm not most people.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>I disagree .
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds .
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad .
In fact , I do n't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.How many of those friends have an iPhone ? If even a fraction of the people with iPhones will buy an iPad then it will be a success.Apple is selling this as a new way to experience the internet .
The hardware to accomplish this is not as impressive as the software.Ideally - iPad software on something like the IdeaPad U1 would be great , but for now I think ( for most people ) a half-as-powerful Apple product has a better user-experience than a far superior ( hardware-wise ) product running another OS.As for myself , if I had an iPad - then for me the priority would be to get an OS I can compile myself on it.But I 'm not most people .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I disagree.
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds.
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad.
In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.How many of those friends have an iPhone?If even a fraction of the people with iPhones will buy an iPad then it will be a success.Apple is selling this as a new way to experience the internet.
The hardware to accomplish this is not as impressive as the software.Ideally - iPad software on something like the IdeaPad U1 would be great, but for now I think (for most people) a half-as-powerful Apple product has a better user-experience than a far superior (hardware-wise) product running another OS.As for myself, if I had an iPad - then for me the priority would be to get an OS I can compile myself on it.But I'm not most people.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118370</id>
	<title>Here's why.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265967540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> But why did you hope iPad would be what you wanted in the first place?</p></div><p>Something more than a larger over priced iTouch?</p><p>The Lenovo has a keyboard and the ports for connecting things like cameras.</p><p>Apple lost a sale. I'm going to Lenovo - much more value too.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>But why did you hope iPad would be what you wanted in the first place ? Something more than a larger over priced iTouch ? The Lenovo has a keyboard and the ports for connecting things like cameras.Apple lost a sale .
I 'm going to Lenovo - much more value too .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> But why did you hope iPad would be what you wanted in the first place?Something more than a larger over priced iTouch?The Lenovo has a keyboard and the ports for connecting things like cameras.Apple lost a sale.
I'm going to Lenovo - much more value too.
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31121052</id>
	<title>Re:wanted?</title>
	<author>alfredo</author>
	<datestamp>1265975160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Windows?  No way.  It has to run a Nix of some type to make me interested.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Windows ?
No way .
It has to run a Nix of some type to make me interested .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Windows?
No way.
It has to run a Nix of some type to make me interested.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31126900</id>
	<title>Re:Here's why.</title>
	<author>bondiblueos9</author>
	<datestamp>1266076020000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>"I have no idea why this was marked Troll because is was spot on."</htmltext>
<tokenext>" I have no idea why this was marked Troll because is was spot on .
"</tokentext>
<sentencetext>"I have no idea why this was marked Troll because is was spot on.
"</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31127472</id>
	<title>Re:For the same price: iPad + MacBook Pro + 2 iPod</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266080640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>except that they were talking 999$ not 1999$, which doesn't even get you 1 MacBook. And they've announced that it will be released in June.<br>Please read sources more carefully before commenting OK? Thanks. Bye</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>except that they were talking 999 $ not 1999 $ , which does n't even get you 1 MacBook .
And they 've announced that it will be released in June.Please read sources more carefully before commenting OK ?
Thanks. Bye</tokentext>
<sentencetext>except that they were talking 999$ not 1999$, which doesn't even get you 1 MacBook.
And they've announced that it will be released in June.Please read sources more carefully before commenting OK?
Thanks. Bye</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120512</id>
	<title>Re:Not even close.</title>
	<author>EvanED</author>
	<datestamp>1265973420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>Dockable keyboard to switch from slate to laptop has been done long before, cf. the venerable Compaq TC1100...</i></p><p>I have a convertible tablet (and love it), and clearly you didn't look at the article very carefully. This isn't a convertible tablet per se, but rather is a notebook with a removable screen. Thus when using it in slate mode you get something that looks around the iPad's form factor, rather than the full thickness of a tablet.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dockable keyboard to switch from slate to laptop has been done long before , cf .
the venerable Compaq TC1100...I have a convertible tablet ( and love it ) , and clearly you did n't look at the article very carefully .
This is n't a convertible tablet per se , but rather is a notebook with a removable screen .
Thus when using it in slate mode you get something that looks around the iPad 's form factor , rather than the full thickness of a tablet .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dockable keyboard to switch from slate to laptop has been done long before, cf.
the venerable Compaq TC1100...I have a convertible tablet (and love it), and clearly you didn't look at the article very carefully.
This isn't a convertible tablet per se, but rather is a notebook with a removable screen.
Thus when using it in slate mode you get something that looks around the iPad's form factor, rather than the full thickness of a tablet.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31122348</id>
	<title>Re:I don't want a tablet that's a computer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265980860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I do want all the power of a computer.  I like that.  For a tablet/slate, I just want to have the same freedom as a computer. I want it to be configurable. I need access to the file system. I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware. I want to be able to configure my hardware, turn off bits I don't like, try different drivers. I want to be able to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or at least be able to use nfs/samba). I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any restrictions. I the iPad won't do that all. I just wish apple or anybody else actually understood that concept.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I do want all the power of a computer .
I like that .
For a tablet/slate , I just want to have the same freedom as a computer .
I want it to be configurable .
I need access to the file system .
I do n't want a browser that 's vulnerable to malware .
I want to be able to configure my hardware , turn off bits I do n't like , try different drivers .
I want to be able to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet ( or at least be able to use nfs/samba ) .
I just want the damn thing to do apps , games and Internet without any restrictions .
I the iPad wo n't do that all .
I just wish apple or anybody else actually understood that concept .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I do want all the power of a computer.
I like that.
For a tablet/slate, I just want to have the same freedom as a computer.
I want it to be configurable.
I need access to the file system.
I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware.
I want to be able to configure my hardware, turn off bits I don't like, try different drivers.
I want to be able to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or at least be able to use nfs/samba).
I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any restrictions.
I the iPad won't do that all.
I just wish apple or anybody else actually understood that concept.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31125054</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Viewer performance</title>
	<author>edmcw</author>
	<datestamp>1266091320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Given that I can do that already with my iPhone, I'm pretty sure the iPad can handle the job just fine.  There's an excellent PDF reader for the iPhone called GoodReader, which handles huge documents effortlessly.  At this point, I'd rather read PDFs on my iPhone than on the desktop.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Given that I can do that already with my iPhone , I 'm pretty sure the iPad can handle the job just fine .
There 's an excellent PDF reader for the iPhone called GoodReader , which handles huge documents effortlessly .
At this point , I 'd rather read PDFs on my iPhone than on the desktop .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Given that I can do that already with my iPhone, I'm pretty sure the iPad can handle the job just fine.
There's an excellent PDF reader for the iPhone called GoodReader, which handles huge documents effortlessly.
At this point, I'd rather read PDFs on my iPhone than on the desktop.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120072</id>
	<title>wanted?</title>
	<author>jDeepbeep</author>
	<datestamp>1265971980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> it offers what many of us wanted from the iPad<br>
--snip--<br>
running Windows 7 Home Premium.</p> </div><p>I couldn't make it further than this.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>it offers what many of us wanted from the iPad --snip-- running Windows 7 Home Premium .
I could n't make it further than this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> it offers what many of us wanted from the iPad
--snip--
running Windows 7 Home Premium.
I couldn't make it further than this.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31124892</id>
	<title>Preproduction? There's still time to fix it then</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266002580000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Please, no curves. IBM design had the bento box (look it up) from day 1, and curves were ever so subtly introduced later on, but not by the bucketloads either. If you want curves, go get the cheap plastic Apple wannabes. Let the people who dig the iPad get the iPad, and the rest of us The Edge that is not Apple: bold sharp edge design, not toilet seat curves that remind you of an Apple product that was shaped like the fruit that bears its name.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Please , no curves .
IBM design had the bento box ( look it up ) from day 1 , and curves were ever so subtly introduced later on , but not by the bucketloads either .
If you want curves , go get the cheap plastic Apple wannabes .
Let the people who dig the iPad get the iPad , and the rest of us The Edge that is not Apple : bold sharp edge design , not toilet seat curves that remind you of an Apple product that was shaped like the fruit that bears its name .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Please, no curves.
IBM design had the bento box (look it up) from day 1, and curves were ever so subtly introduced later on, but not by the bucketloads either.
If you want curves, go get the cheap plastic Apple wannabes.
Let the people who dig the iPad get the iPad, and the rest of us The Edge that is not Apple: bold sharp edge design, not toilet seat curves that remind you of an Apple product that was shaped like the fruit that bears its name.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119792</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265971080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>My mom, who does nothing more strenuous with her computer than send surf the web and e-mail with pics of the grandkids attached, thinks it looks fantastic.  And for her, and the way she uses her computer, it probably is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>My mom , who does nothing more strenuous with her computer than send surf the web and e-mail with pics of the grandkids attached , thinks it looks fantastic .
And for her , and the way she uses her computer , it probably is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>My mom, who does nothing more strenuous with her computer than send surf the web and e-mail with pics of the grandkids attached, thinks it looks fantastic.
And for her, and the way she uses her computer, it probably is.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120366</id>
	<title>What you want to do</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265972940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You can see the different points of views, with tablets/netbooks like this one, the manufacturers basicaly tell you "Here is the hardware, do what you want with it, surprise us"</p><p>On the other side Apple tells us "Here is the hardware, do what I tell you what to do with it, nothing more"</p><p>I think I'll go with the first one, I mean you may be able to put any distro of linux on the tablet side, and maybe a hackintosh in there.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You can see the different points of views , with tablets/netbooks like this one , the manufacturers basicaly tell you " Here is the hardware , do what you want with it , surprise us " On the other side Apple tells us " Here is the hardware , do what I tell you what to do with it , nothing more " I think I 'll go with the first one , I mean you may be able to put any distro of linux on the tablet side , and maybe a hackintosh in there .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You can see the different points of views, with tablets/netbooks like this one, the manufacturers basicaly tell you "Here is the hardware, do what you want with it, surprise us"On the other side Apple tells us "Here is the hardware, do what I tell you what to do with it, nothing more"I think I'll go with the first one, I mean you may be able to put any distro of linux on the tablet side, and maybe a hackintosh in there.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119842</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>santiago</author>
	<datestamp>1265971260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You post on Slashdot and they're your friends.  They may not be hardcore tinker-happy nerds compared to you, but they are compared to the other 99\% of the population.  Their response is not indicative of how well the iPad will sell.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You post on Slashdot and they 're your friends .
They may not be hardcore tinker-happy nerds compared to you , but they are compared to the other 99 \ % of the population .
Their response is not indicative of how well the iPad will sell .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You post on Slashdot and they're your friends.
They may not be hardcore tinker-happy nerds compared to you, but they are compared to the other 99\% of the population.
Their response is not indicative of how well the iPad will sell.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119414</id>
	<title>iPad: No docking. Less flexibility than an IdeaPad</title>
	<author>nick357</author>
	<datestamp>1265970180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Lame...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Lame.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Lame...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120034</id>
	<title>Re:Here's why.</title>
	<author>peragrin</author>
	<datestamp>1265971860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>you do realize that the levono idea pad is going for $999 with 16 gig of flash instead of $499 for the 16gb version of the ipad?</p><p>Or are you just another moronic apple hater who refuses to do proper price comparisons of actually equal hardware specs?</p><p><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-laptop-by-day-unhinged-tablet-by-nigh/" title="engadget.com">http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-laptop-by-day-unhinged-tablet-by-nigh/</a> [engadget.com]</p><p>Just to prove my point.  Apple fscked over every other tablet maker when they announced $499.  they can't do it for that price point let alone with a custom tablet OS with a decent UI and various 3rd party software packages readily available.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>you do realize that the levono idea pad is going for $ 999 with 16 gig of flash instead of $ 499 for the 16gb version of the ipad ? Or are you just another moronic apple hater who refuses to do proper price comparisons of actually equal hardware specs ? http : //www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-laptop-by-day-unhinged-tablet-by-nigh/ [ engadget.com ] Just to prove my point .
Apple fscked over every other tablet maker when they announced $ 499 .
they ca n't do it for that price point let alone with a custom tablet OS with a decent UI and various 3rd party software packages readily available .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>you do realize that the levono idea pad is going for $999 with 16 gig of flash instead of $499 for the 16gb version of the ipad?Or are you just another moronic apple hater who refuses to do proper price comparisons of actually equal hardware specs?http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/04/lenovo-ideapad-u1-hybrid-laptop-by-day-unhinged-tablet-by-nigh/ [engadget.com]Just to prove my point.
Apple fscked over every other tablet maker when they announced $499.
they can't do it for that price point let alone with a custom tablet OS with a decent UI and various 3rd party software packages readily available.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118832</id>
	<title>Lenovo's Skylight UI</title>
	<author>damn\_registrars</author>
	<datestamp>1265968620000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>So apparently even though IBM couldn't keep up development on an operating system, Lenovo decided to give it a go anyways.  It will be interesting to see how this pans out for the company that bought IBM's personal computer division...</htmltext>
<tokenext>So apparently even though IBM could n't keep up development on an operating system , Lenovo decided to give it a go anyways .
It will be interesting to see how this pans out for the company that bought IBM 's personal computer division.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>So apparently even though IBM couldn't keep up development on an operating system, Lenovo decided to give it a go anyways.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out for the company that bought IBM's personal computer division...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31123518</id>
	<title>yes, JUST what I wanted from the iPad</title>
	<author>tyme</author>
	<datestamp>1265988180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A device that costs twice as much, doesn't work half the time (did anyone <i>watch</i> the videos?) and has a bizarre collection of user interface metaphors to cover the jury-rigged hodge-podge of processors and operating systems.</p><p>When it is first undocked from the main body, you can see that it appears completely unresponsive to touch from the user. Oddly, after a few swipes with the finger go unregistered by the device, the video abruptly comes to an end. Later on, in the next video down the page, we can see that the device is sluggish and crude (it doesn't seem to support any of the obvious multi-touch gestures, using a drag control to resize images rather than pinch or stretch gestures) and the voice over claims that this is because it keeps dropping it's 3G connection (so that they can't show us the Really Cool[TM] demo that would have knocked our socks off, put the iPad to shame, and justified the $2000 price tag).</p><p>Sure, the iPad may not be the second coming, but, with competition like this, Apple has <i>nothing</i> to worry about.</p><p>What a joke.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A device that costs twice as much , does n't work half the time ( did anyone watch the videos ?
) and has a bizarre collection of user interface metaphors to cover the jury-rigged hodge-podge of processors and operating systems.When it is first undocked from the main body , you can see that it appears completely unresponsive to touch from the user .
Oddly , after a few swipes with the finger go unregistered by the device , the video abruptly comes to an end .
Later on , in the next video down the page , we can see that the device is sluggish and crude ( it does n't seem to support any of the obvious multi-touch gestures , using a drag control to resize images rather than pinch or stretch gestures ) and the voice over claims that this is because it keeps dropping it 's 3G connection ( so that they ca n't show us the Really Cool [ TM ] demo that would have knocked our socks off , put the iPad to shame , and justified the $ 2000 price tag ) .Sure , the iPad may not be the second coming , but , with competition like this , Apple has nothing to worry about.What a joke .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A device that costs twice as much, doesn't work half the time (did anyone watch the videos?
) and has a bizarre collection of user interface metaphors to cover the jury-rigged hodge-podge of processors and operating systems.When it is first undocked from the main body, you can see that it appears completely unresponsive to touch from the user.
Oddly, after a few swipes with the finger go unregistered by the device, the video abruptly comes to an end.
Later on, in the next video down the page, we can see that the device is sluggish and crude (it doesn't seem to support any of the obvious multi-touch gestures, using a drag control to resize images rather than pinch or stretch gestures) and the voice over claims that this is because it keeps dropping it's 3G connection (so that they can't show us the Really Cool[TM] demo that would have knocked our socks off, put the iPad to shame, and justified the $2000 price tag).Sure, the iPad may not be the second coming, but, with competition like this, Apple has nothing to worry about.What a joke.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31130764</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>JAlexoi</author>
	<datestamp>1266062940000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I know people who where impressed by the price of the device...</htmltext>
<tokenext>I know people who where impressed by the price of the device.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know people who where impressed by the price of the device...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119528</id>
	<title>Smart Dock is Smart Idea</title>
	<author>buckhead\_buddy</author>
	<datestamp>1265970420000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Not saying this is good or bad, unlike the iPad, It looks like two separate computers. The touch screen looks like the weakest part of the implementation, but I like this idea for a smart tablet dock. Your dock has the facility to backup your tablet's data; that seems much simpler than syncing through iTunes.</p><p>But in the video the netbook / keyboard base still maintains power when the screen is undocked; I'd think it'd quickly go to sleep instead.</p><p>How the base will react if someone else docks their tablet into the wrong base. Will it die? Will it enter a locked security state? Will it switch over to host the new tablet's data without problem?</p><p>The quick reloading of the web page is neat, but it is not the same page with local mods. The Flash banner ad at the top of the page doesn't load. And if you were on Slashdot entering your comment when you undocked, you'd lose all the words in your well-constr</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Not saying this is good or bad , unlike the iPad , It looks like two separate computers .
The touch screen looks like the weakest part of the implementation , but I like this idea for a smart tablet dock .
Your dock has the facility to backup your tablet 's data ; that seems much simpler than syncing through iTunes.But in the video the netbook / keyboard base still maintains power when the screen is undocked ; I 'd think it 'd quickly go to sleep instead.How the base will react if someone else docks their tablet into the wrong base .
Will it die ?
Will it enter a locked security state ?
Will it switch over to host the new tablet 's data without problem ? The quick reloading of the web page is neat , but it is not the same page with local mods .
The Flash banner ad at the top of the page does n't load .
And if you were on Slashdot entering your comment when you undocked , you 'd lose all the words in your well-constr</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Not saying this is good or bad, unlike the iPad, It looks like two separate computers.
The touch screen looks like the weakest part of the implementation, but I like this idea for a smart tablet dock.
Your dock has the facility to backup your tablet's data; that seems much simpler than syncing through iTunes.But in the video the netbook / keyboard base still maintains power when the screen is undocked; I'd think it'd quickly go to sleep instead.How the base will react if someone else docks their tablet into the wrong base.
Will it die?
Will it enter a locked security state?
Will it switch over to host the new tablet's data without problem?The quick reloading of the web page is neat, but it is not the same page with local mods.
The Flash banner ad at the top of the page doesn't load.
And if you were on Slashdot entering your comment when you undocked, you'd lose all the words in your well-constr</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31124956</id>
	<title>Misleading Headline</title>
	<author>devjj</author>
	<datestamp>1266003360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>FTFA:<blockquote><div><p>How's the touch experience? Well, the resistive 11.6-screen supports multitouch, (Lenovo wasn't saying where it came from) and though it was responsive, it was far from flawless; we had to double tap a few times to make sure our touches registered. It's also a little bit loose, although we expect that'll be cleared up by the time the U1 ships. The on-screen keyboard is big enough for entering a URL here or there, but you're not going to want to type an email on it. Unfortunately, the screen itself was pretty abysmal, with terrible horizontal and vertical viewing angles -- it basically disappeared at 45 degrees off axis.</p></div></blockquote><p>

<em>That's</em> what we wanted the iPad to be?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>FTFA : How 's the touch experience ?
Well , the resistive 11.6-screen supports multitouch , ( Lenovo was n't saying where it came from ) and though it was responsive , it was far from flawless ; we had to double tap a few times to make sure our touches registered .
It 's also a little bit loose , although we expect that 'll be cleared up by the time the U1 ships .
The on-screen keyboard is big enough for entering a URL here or there , but you 're not going to want to type an email on it .
Unfortunately , the screen itself was pretty abysmal , with terrible horizontal and vertical viewing angles -- it basically disappeared at 45 degrees off axis .
That 's what we wanted the iPad to be ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>FTFA:How's the touch experience?
Well, the resistive 11.6-screen supports multitouch, (Lenovo wasn't saying where it came from) and though it was responsive, it was far from flawless; we had to double tap a few times to make sure our touches registered.
It's also a little bit loose, although we expect that'll be cleared up by the time the U1 ships.
The on-screen keyboard is big enough for entering a URL here or there, but you're not going to want to type an email on it.
Unfortunately, the screen itself was pretty abysmal, with terrible horizontal and vertical viewing angles -- it basically disappeared at 45 degrees off axis.
That's what we wanted the iPad to be?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119862</id>
	<title>Look out Apple, the Android Tablets are comming</title>
	<author>EEPROMS</author>
	<datestamp>1265971260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I have seen a few Android based tablets on the web the <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/msis-10-inch-tablet-launching-this-year-at-500-patently-ignor/" title="engadget.com"> MSI tablet</a> [engadget.com] being one of the better ones. The first thing you notice is they generally all have a webcam and USB and SD card slots both missing on the iPAD (cough iTunes lockin anyone). The reason I think Android is the real competitor in the tablet market is the OS was designed as a touch screen OS and has an app-store presence without the intentional lockin. Also the price mentioned for Android tablets are lower (same cpu/hardware basically as the iPAD but more connectivity, WTF apple) so I can only see the most style centric and shallow consumers wanting one.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I have seen a few Android based tablets on the web the MSI tablet [ engadget.com ] being one of the better ones .
The first thing you notice is they generally all have a webcam and USB and SD card slots both missing on the iPAD ( cough iTunes lockin anyone ) .
The reason I think Android is the real competitor in the tablet market is the OS was designed as a touch screen OS and has an app-store presence without the intentional lockin .
Also the price mentioned for Android tablets are lower ( same cpu/hardware basically as the iPAD but more connectivity , WTF apple ) so I can only see the most style centric and shallow consumers wanting one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I have seen a few Android based tablets on the web the  MSI tablet [engadget.com] being one of the better ones.
The first thing you notice is they generally all have a webcam and USB and SD card slots both missing on the iPAD (cough iTunes lockin anyone).
The reason I think Android is the real competitor in the tablet market is the OS was designed as a touch screen OS and has an app-store presence without the intentional lockin.
Also the price mentioned for Android tablets are lower (same cpu/hardware basically as the iPAD but more connectivity, WTF apple) so I can only see the most style centric and shallow consumers wanting one.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120720</id>
	<title>Re:Here's why.</title>
	<author>h4rr4r</author>
	<datestamp>1265974080000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Except for Archos.</p><p>Or even the TouchBook.</p><p>That is ok though applefanboi, you can feel proud for your consumer choices. The things you own do truly make you unique, just like all the other little hipster douchebags who own them.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Except for Archos.Or even the TouchBook.That is ok though applefanboi , you can feel proud for your consumer choices .
The things you own do truly make you unique , just like all the other little hipster douchebags who own them .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Except for Archos.Or even the TouchBook.That is ok though applefanboi, you can feel proud for your consumer choices.
The things you own do truly make you unique, just like all the other little hipster douchebags who own them.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31122300</id>
	<title>I love the IdeaPad U01</title>
	<author>WillAffleckUW</author>
	<datestamp>1265980680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I really love the IdeaPad U01 and when I switch it to Windows I</p><p><b>Blue Screen of Death</b></p><p>Frak!</p><p>Look, I'm going to be brutally frank with you - it's not for uber-geeks - it's for everyone else that just want something that works.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I really love the IdeaPad U01 and when I switch it to Windows IBlue Screen of DeathFrak ! Look , I 'm going to be brutally frank with you - it 's not for uber-geeks - it 's for everyone else that just want something that works .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I really love the IdeaPad U01 and when I switch it to Windows IBlue Screen of DeathFrak!Look, I'm going to be brutally frank with you - it's not for uber-geeks - it's for everyone else that just want something that works.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31117984</id>
	<title>The I-pad</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265966640000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Offtopic</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>who really gives a shit?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>who really gives a shit ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>who really gives a shit?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118614</id>
	<title>What *some* people wanted the iPad to be...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265968200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>I don't know about you, but a netbook that turns into a tablet is about the last thing I wanted the iPad to be. Do i want a more clumsy way of doing things I already (don't) do on a netbook? Not really.

I want a paradigm shift in the way we use computers. The Lenovo device to me, looks like more of the same, with a worse way of doing it. The iPad looks like something we haven't really thought of on this scale.

So, in conclusion, the iPad is what I wanted the iPad to be.</htmltext>
<tokenext>I do n't know about you , but a netbook that turns into a tablet is about the last thing I wanted the iPad to be .
Do i want a more clumsy way of doing things I already ( do n't ) do on a netbook ?
Not really .
I want a paradigm shift in the way we use computers .
The Lenovo device to me , looks like more of the same , with a worse way of doing it .
The iPad looks like something we have n't really thought of on this scale .
So , in conclusion , the iPad is what I wanted the iPad to be .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I don't know about you, but a netbook that turns into a tablet is about the last thing I wanted the iPad to be.
Do i want a more clumsy way of doing things I already (don't) do on a netbook?
Not really.
I want a paradigm shift in the way we use computers.
The Lenovo device to me, looks like more of the same, with a worse way of doing it.
The iPad looks like something we haven't really thought of on this scale.
So, in conclusion, the iPad is what I wanted the iPad to be.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31125790</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1266062220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hey Mike.<br>Sorry, I don't know you or your fine folks.</p><p>If I was counting online testimonials, then I'd not have said "no one".</p><p>I was talking about people in the physical world (meatspace) who have more than a passing acquaintance with me. (ie. I have gone for a social beer with them on more than one occasion)</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hey Mike.Sorry , I do n't know you or your fine folks.If I was counting online testimonials , then I 'd not have said " no one " .I was talking about people in the physical world ( meatspace ) who have more than a passing acquaintance with me .
( ie. I have gone for a social beer with them on more than one occasion )</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hey Mike.Sorry, I don't know you or your fine folks.If I was counting online testimonials, then I'd not have said "no one".I was talking about people in the physical world (meatspace) who have more than a passing acquaintance with me.
(ie. I have gone for a social beer with them on more than one occasion)</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118032</id>
	<title>But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265966760000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Insightful</modclass>
	<modscore>5</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>What We Wanted the IPad To Be</p></div><p>
People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad, but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core, tinker-happy nerds...and they've made a very specific point of missing that boat for at least the last decade. They're marketing to fanboys who want it to be trendy and 'just work', not to nerds. <br> <br>
So it's nice that this might be what you hoped for from the iPad. But why did you hope iPad would be what you wanted in the first place?</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>What We Wanted the IPad To Be People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad , but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core , tinker-happy nerds...and they 've made a very specific point of missing that boat for at least the last decade .
They 're marketing to fanboys who want it to be trendy and 'just work ' , not to nerds .
So it 's nice that this might be what you hoped for from the iPad .
But why did you hope iPad would be what you wanted in the first place ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What We Wanted the IPad To Be
People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad, but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core, tinker-happy nerds...and they've made a very specific point of missing that boat for at least the last decade.
They're marketing to fanboys who want it to be trendy and 'just work', not to nerds.
So it's nice that this might be what you hoped for from the iPad.
But why did you hope iPad would be what you wanted in the first place?
	</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31122566</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265982000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>9/8 is a fraction. So is 1/1,000,000,000. How could anything *but* a fraction of the people with iPhones buy iPads, smart guy?<br>And how are you going to compile yourself? Are you open source, or did you program yourself?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>9/8 is a fraction .
So is 1/1,000,000,000 .
How could anything * but * a fraction of the people with iPhones buy iPads , smart guy ? And how are you going to compile yourself ?
Are you open source , or did you program yourself ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>9/8 is a fraction.
So is 1/1,000,000,000.
How could anything *but* a fraction of the people with iPhones buy iPads, smart guy?And how are you going to compile yourself?
Are you open source, or did you program yourself?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120364</id>
	<title>Re:Here's why.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265972880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p>Apple lost a sale. I'm going to Lenovo - much more value too.</p></div><p>Have fun with all that cool software you're going to find for the Lenovo Skylight UI. I'm sure there will be a huge ecosystem rivaling Apple's App Store for it in no time at all.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple lost a sale .
I 'm going to Lenovo - much more value too.Have fun with all that cool software you 're going to find for the Lenovo Skylight UI .
I 'm sure there will be a huge ecosystem rivaling Apple 's App Store for it in no time at all .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple lost a sale.
I'm going to Lenovo - much more value too.Have fun with all that cool software you're going to find for the Lenovo Skylight UI.
I'm sure there will be a huge ecosystem rivaling Apple's App Store for it in no time at all.
	</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31122030</id>
	<title>I didn't want expensive and slow as molasses.</title>
	<author>guidryp</author>
	<datestamp>1265979540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>That thing is some kind of Frankenstein monster of bad ideas grafted together.</p><p>Watch the hands on demo video, then watch any iPad hands on demo video.</p><p>The Lenova is brutally slow. I would tear out my hair in frustration. The iPad flys and glides.</p><p>Windows tablets have been failures because windows is aimed at desktop/mouse/keyboard experience, tacking on a superfluous touch interface does nothing for that.</p><p>I plan to try an iPad because the interaction looks so slick that it is actually fun.</p><p>It is an appliance but it appears to be a find instant on joyful net browsing appliance.</p><p>Even geeks have to realize there is a place for appliances.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>That thing is some kind of Frankenstein monster of bad ideas grafted together.Watch the hands on demo video , then watch any iPad hands on demo video.The Lenova is brutally slow .
I would tear out my hair in frustration .
The iPad flys and glides.Windows tablets have been failures because windows is aimed at desktop/mouse/keyboard experience , tacking on a superfluous touch interface does nothing for that.I plan to try an iPad because the interaction looks so slick that it is actually fun.It is an appliance but it appears to be a find instant on joyful net browsing appliance.Even geeks have to realize there is a place for appliances .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That thing is some kind of Frankenstein monster of bad ideas grafted together.Watch the hands on demo video, then watch any iPad hands on demo video.The Lenova is brutally slow.
I would tear out my hair in frustration.
The iPad flys and glides.Windows tablets have been failures because windows is aimed at desktop/mouse/keyboard experience, tacking on a superfluous touch interface does nothing for that.I plan to try an iPad because the interaction looks so slick that it is actually fun.It is an appliance but it appears to be a find instant on joyful net browsing appliance.Even geeks have to realize there is a place for appliances.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119622</id>
	<title>Home automation</title>
	<author>CompressedAir</author>
	<datestamp>1265970660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I know it isn't a huge market, but the iPad is huge news in the home automation touchscreen market. Official solutions sell for over $1k, and you'd be hard pressed to make your own (ebay'd touchscreen, plus a fanless computer mounted in the wall) for less than the cheapest iPad.</p><p>Make a wall cradle for it with speakers, and you have control, audio, pictures (for when not in use), not to mention if you can make it show you a weather report in the morning or something.</p><p>Indigo Touch is impressive enough that I had long planned to buy iPod touches and wall-mount them, the iPad just makes that idea even better.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I know it is n't a huge market , but the iPad is huge news in the home automation touchscreen market .
Official solutions sell for over $ 1k , and you 'd be hard pressed to make your own ( ebay 'd touchscreen , plus a fanless computer mounted in the wall ) for less than the cheapest iPad.Make a wall cradle for it with speakers , and you have control , audio , pictures ( for when not in use ) , not to mention if you can make it show you a weather report in the morning or something.Indigo Touch is impressive enough that I had long planned to buy iPod touches and wall-mount them , the iPad just makes that idea even better .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I know it isn't a huge market, but the iPad is huge news in the home automation touchscreen market.
Official solutions sell for over $1k, and you'd be hard pressed to make your own (ebay'd touchscreen, plus a fanless computer mounted in the wall) for less than the cheapest iPad.Make a wall cradle for it with speakers, and you have control, audio, pictures (for when not in use), not to mention if you can make it show you a weather report in the morning or something.Indigo Touch is impressive enough that I had long planned to buy iPod touches and wall-mount them, the iPad just makes that idea even better.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120836</id>
	<title>A few notes on the U1</title>
	<author>timothy</author>
	<datestamp>1265974440000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I played w/ the same device briefly at CES, was also impressed by it in general.</p><p>- Yep, the screen (on the pre-production unit) was pretty bad. It was fine when perfectly on-axis, but not so bright that I'd necessarily see it doing well in some of the environments for which tablets have been touted in the past (doctors' rounds, etc.)</p><p>- The latching / locking mechanism broke while I was watching a sales rep demo how easily it locks back into place; hopefully, they pay a lot of attention to this "moving parts" aspect, because the convertability is great, but it would suck to spend a thousand bucks and then get to keep both pieces<nobr> <wbr></nobr>;)</p><p>- the switching ability (presto change-o, you're using Linux! And alakazam, you're back to Windows!) was impressive, but left me wondering: what if I wanted to run Ubuntu (say) on the x86 processor, and keep Skylight on the tablet part? I couldn't get other than a vague (but discouraging) answer from the mostly well-informed people in the demo booth; I think the fellow I was talking to mostly was an engineer, but wasn't directly involved in the OS integration part. To me, it would be no great tragedy if it became mostly a 2-computer-1-case solution (that is, with no special integration between the pieces, except for sharing the display), but it was quite cool to see browser windows in one OS automagically opened in the other when the tablet was removed or replaced. Not sure if that was true w/ things like PDFs, word processing docs, etc. (I wonder if Word and OpenOffice could be coaxed into that same sort of hand-off.)</p><p>timothy</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I played w/ the same device briefly at CES , was also impressed by it in general.- Yep , the screen ( on the pre-production unit ) was pretty bad .
It was fine when perfectly on-axis , but not so bright that I 'd necessarily see it doing well in some of the environments for which tablets have been touted in the past ( doctors ' rounds , etc .
) - The latching / locking mechanism broke while I was watching a sales rep demo how easily it locks back into place ; hopefully , they pay a lot of attention to this " moving parts " aspect , because the convertability is great , but it would suck to spend a thousand bucks and then get to keep both pieces ; ) - the switching ability ( presto change-o , you 're using Linux !
And alakazam , you 're back to Windows !
) was impressive , but left me wondering : what if I wanted to run Ubuntu ( say ) on the x86 processor , and keep Skylight on the tablet part ?
I could n't get other than a vague ( but discouraging ) answer from the mostly well-informed people in the demo booth ; I think the fellow I was talking to mostly was an engineer , but was n't directly involved in the OS integration part .
To me , it would be no great tragedy if it became mostly a 2-computer-1-case solution ( that is , with no special integration between the pieces , except for sharing the display ) , but it was quite cool to see browser windows in one OS automagically opened in the other when the tablet was removed or replaced .
Not sure if that was true w/ things like PDFs , word processing docs , etc .
( I wonder if Word and OpenOffice could be coaxed into that same sort of hand-off .
) timothy</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I played w/ the same device briefly at CES, was also impressed by it in general.- Yep, the screen (on the pre-production unit) was pretty bad.
It was fine when perfectly on-axis, but not so bright that I'd necessarily see it doing well in some of the environments for which tablets have been touted in the past (doctors' rounds, etc.
)- The latching / locking mechanism broke while I was watching a sales rep demo how easily it locks back into place; hopefully, they pay a lot of attention to this "moving parts" aspect, because the convertability is great, but it would suck to spend a thousand bucks and then get to keep both pieces ;)- the switching ability (presto change-o, you're using Linux!
And alakazam, you're back to Windows!
) was impressive, but left me wondering: what if I wanted to run Ubuntu (say) on the x86 processor, and keep Skylight on the tablet part?
I couldn't get other than a vague (but discouraging) answer from the mostly well-informed people in the demo booth; I think the fellow I was talking to mostly was an engineer, but wasn't directly involved in the OS integration part.
To me, it would be no great tragedy if it became mostly a 2-computer-1-case solution (that is, with no special integration between the pieces, except for sharing the display), but it was quite cool to see browser windows in one OS automagically opened in the other when the tablet was removed or replaced.
Not sure if that was true w/ things like PDFs, word processing docs, etc.
(I wonder if Word and OpenOffice could be coaxed into that same sort of hand-off.
)timothy</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31123820</id>
	<title>Just has to be said...</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265990880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>The negative rants about the iPad can honestly be taken with a grain a salt.  Just consider the source: people whom, admittedly don&rsquo;t like Apple in the first place therefore had made up their minds long before the product&rsquo;s specs were even released. At any rate, it&rsquo;s rather foolish to bet against a company that has had nothing but an ever increasing sales record since Jobs took back the helm.  Conveniently and dishonestly that fact is left out of all the dire predictions floating around the net.  The same irrational predictions followed the iPhone as well which, naturally, didn&rsquo;t come close to being true.  The &lsquo;ranters&rsquo; pretty much lost all their creditability over the years which means it&rsquo;s time to just tell them to STFU!</htmltext>
<tokenext>The negative rants about the iPad can honestly be taken with a grain a salt .
Just consider the source : people whom , admittedly don    t like Apple in the first place therefore had made up their minds long before the product    s specs were even released .
At any rate , it    s rather foolish to bet against a company that has had nothing but an ever increasing sales record since Jobs took back the helm .
Conveniently and dishonestly that fact is left out of all the dire predictions floating around the net .
The same irrational predictions followed the iPhone as well which , naturally , didn    t come close to being true .
The    ranters    pretty much lost all their creditability over the years which means it    s time to just tell them to STFU !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The negative rants about the iPad can honestly be taken with a grain a salt.
Just consider the source: people whom, admittedly don’t like Apple in the first place therefore had made up their minds long before the product’s specs were even released.
At any rate, it’s rather foolish to bet against a company that has had nothing but an ever increasing sales record since Jobs took back the helm.
Conveniently and dishonestly that fact is left out of all the dire predictions floating around the net.
The same irrational predictions followed the iPhone as well which, naturally, didn’t come close to being true.
The ‘ranters’ pretty much lost all their creditability over the years which means it’s time to just tell them to STFU!</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118708</id>
	<title>Not even close.</title>
	<author>SirWinston</author>
	<datestamp>1265968380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Dockable keyboard to switch from slate to laptop has been done long before, cf. the venerable Compaq TC1100, so that clearly isn't a killer feature (although I, and most long-term tablet enthusiasts, loved it and missed it when it was dropped from newer-gen Tablet PCs).  Very nice, but no iPad killer, especially at the higher price.</p><p>The two OSes thing I also don't see as a killer feature.  I realize the idea was probably, "Hey, an ARM CPU is needed to extend the battery life in slate mode, but anyone using a full-size laptop wants a full-size Windows 7--let's combine 'em for the best of both worlds!"  Sorry Hannah fucking Montana, but you can't have the best of both worlds without getting the worst of both worlds, too, plus an even higher cost to include all that extra hardware.  If I wanted a Win 7 machine, I'd want it to run the same Win 7 apps in slate mode too.  If I wanted an ARM slate, I'd have made the decision to be satisfied with available apps and wouldn't want the OS changing every time I docked the keyboard.  And if I really wanted the features of both, for the price (another article states "Lenovo said they're hoping to get the IdeaPad U1's price under $1000 for a May or June release") I could buy both an iPad and a full laptop, and have two fully functional devices each better suited to its purpose than one hybrid.</p><p>Sorry, there's still no mythical iPad killer.  If this chimera were priced within $100 of the iPad it might be a contender, but not a sure thing.  At somewhere just south of $1000 it's not even an also-ran compared with the iPad, it's a never-ran.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Dockable keyboard to switch from slate to laptop has been done long before , cf .
the venerable Compaq TC1100 , so that clearly is n't a killer feature ( although I , and most long-term tablet enthusiasts , loved it and missed it when it was dropped from newer-gen Tablet PCs ) .
Very nice , but no iPad killer , especially at the higher price.The two OSes thing I also do n't see as a killer feature .
I realize the idea was probably , " Hey , an ARM CPU is needed to extend the battery life in slate mode , but anyone using a full-size laptop wants a full-size Windows 7--let 's combine 'em for the best of both worlds !
" Sorry Hannah fucking Montana , but you ca n't have the best of both worlds without getting the worst of both worlds , too , plus an even higher cost to include all that extra hardware .
If I wanted a Win 7 machine , I 'd want it to run the same Win 7 apps in slate mode too .
If I wanted an ARM slate , I 'd have made the decision to be satisfied with available apps and would n't want the OS changing every time I docked the keyboard .
And if I really wanted the features of both , for the price ( another article states " Lenovo said they 're hoping to get the IdeaPad U1 's price under $ 1000 for a May or June release " ) I could buy both an iPad and a full laptop , and have two fully functional devices each better suited to its purpose than one hybrid.Sorry , there 's still no mythical iPad killer .
If this chimera were priced within $ 100 of the iPad it might be a contender , but not a sure thing .
At somewhere just south of $ 1000 it 's not even an also-ran compared with the iPad , it 's a never-ran .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Dockable keyboard to switch from slate to laptop has been done long before, cf.
the venerable Compaq TC1100, so that clearly isn't a killer feature (although I, and most long-term tablet enthusiasts, loved it and missed it when it was dropped from newer-gen Tablet PCs).
Very nice, but no iPad killer, especially at the higher price.The two OSes thing I also don't see as a killer feature.
I realize the idea was probably, "Hey, an ARM CPU is needed to extend the battery life in slate mode, but anyone using a full-size laptop wants a full-size Windows 7--let's combine 'em for the best of both worlds!
"  Sorry Hannah fucking Montana, but you can't have the best of both worlds without getting the worst of both worlds, too, plus an even higher cost to include all that extra hardware.
If I wanted a Win 7 machine, I'd want it to run the same Win 7 apps in slate mode too.
If I wanted an ARM slate, I'd have made the decision to be satisfied with available apps and wouldn't want the OS changing every time I docked the keyboard.
And if I really wanted the features of both, for the price (another article states "Lenovo said they're hoping to get the IdeaPad U1's price under $1000 for a May or June release") I could buy both an iPad and a full laptop, and have two fully functional devices each better suited to its purpose than one hybrid.Sorry, there's still no mythical iPad killer.
If this chimera were priced within $100 of the iPad it might be a contender, but not a sure thing.
At somewhere just south of $1000 it's not even an also-ran compared with the iPad, it's a never-ran.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31123360</id>
	<title>A lot of people simply...</title>
	<author>wfolta</author>
	<datestamp>1265986800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><div class="quote"><p> <i>People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad, but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core, tinker-happy nerds...</i> </p><p>I disagree. Most of my friends are <strong>not</strong> hard core tinker happy nerds. And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad. In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.</p><p>Not one.</p></div><p>A lot of people simply have no imagination. And that's the value added by Steve Jobs: he's always drawn to where (he believes) people will WANT to be once they realize how things could be. He may be dramatically wrong -- and unlike other companies, there's no hiding behind focus groups and polls that seemed to indicate a demand -- but it's rather refreshing.</p><p>This whole iPad discussion feels to me like a repeat of the people who saw no need for computers, who couldn't imagine using a stupid mouse and icons instead of typing, who could care less about sub-audiophile MP3 players, who saw no reason to replace their VHS library with (more expensive) DVDs, who thought text messaging was stupid when you may as well make a call once you pick up your phone,<nobr> <wbr></nobr>..., who thought a phone without a physical keypad is going to flop, etc.</p><p>The poster you were replying to generalized in the wrong direction: it's not super-techies who are disappointed with the iPad, it's people who cannot imagine interfacing with a computer outside of the standard desktop paradigm. (Laptops are desktops with the keyboard attached via a convenient hinge. The form factor, UI, and how you interface with it is basically the same.) I have a laptop with 5 operating systems on it and all the development tools that I might need, but I will certainly get an iPad for several reasons -- none of them involving writing my own Python or typing a dissertation.</p></div>
	</htmltext>
<tokenext>People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad , but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core , tinker-happy nerds... I disagree .
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds .
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad .
In fact , I do n't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one.A lot of people simply have no imagination .
And that 's the value added by Steve Jobs : he 's always drawn to where ( he believes ) people will WANT to be once they realize how things could be .
He may be dramatically wrong -- and unlike other companies , there 's no hiding behind focus groups and polls that seemed to indicate a demand -- but it 's rather refreshing.This whole iPad discussion feels to me like a repeat of the people who saw no need for computers , who could n't imagine using a stupid mouse and icons instead of typing , who could care less about sub-audiophile MP3 players , who saw no reason to replace their VHS library with ( more expensive ) DVDs , who thought text messaging was stupid when you may as well make a call once you pick up your phone , ... , who thought a phone without a physical keypad is going to flop , etc.The poster you were replying to generalized in the wrong direction : it 's not super-techies who are disappointed with the iPad , it 's people who can not imagine interfacing with a computer outside of the standard desktop paradigm .
( Laptops are desktops with the keyboard attached via a convenient hinge .
The form factor , UI , and how you interface with it is basically the same .
) I have a laptop with 5 operating systems on it and all the development tools that I might need , but I will certainly get an iPad for several reasons -- none of them involving writing my own Python or typing a dissertation .</tokentext>
<sentencetext> People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad, but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core, tinker-happy nerds... I disagree.
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds.
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad.
In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one.A lot of people simply have no imagination.
And that's the value added by Steve Jobs: he's always drawn to where (he believes) people will WANT to be once they realize how things could be.
He may be dramatically wrong -- and unlike other companies, there's no hiding behind focus groups and polls that seemed to indicate a demand -- but it's rather refreshing.This whole iPad discussion feels to me like a repeat of the people who saw no need for computers, who couldn't imagine using a stupid mouse and icons instead of typing, who could care less about sub-audiophile MP3 players, who saw no reason to replace their VHS library with (more expensive) DVDs, who thought text messaging was stupid when you may as well make a call once you pick up your phone, ..., who thought a phone without a physical keypad is going to flop, etc.The poster you were replying to generalized in the wrong direction: it's not super-techies who are disappointed with the iPad, it's people who cannot imagine interfacing with a computer outside of the standard desktop paradigm.
(Laptops are desktops with the keyboard attached via a convenient hinge.
The form factor, UI, and how you interface with it is basically the same.
) I have a laptop with 5 operating systems on it and all the development tools that I might need, but I will certainly get an iPad for several reasons -- none of them involving writing my own Python or typing a dissertation.
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120812</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265974380000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hee hee.  I know at least three people in my workcenter that can't wait to buy theirs.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hee hee .
I know at least three people in my workcenter that ca n't wait to buy theirs .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hee hee.
I know at least three people in my workcenter that can't wait to buy theirs.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31121734</id>
	<title>Re:For the same price: iPad + MacBook Pro + 2 iPod</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265978220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Finally someone who makes sense.</p><p>And frankly the Lenovo hardware will feel rubbish compared to the Macbook Pro and surely the iPad. Apple builds nice hardware...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Finally someone who makes sense.And frankly the Lenovo hardware will feel rubbish compared to the Macbook Pro and surely the iPad .
Apple builds nice hardware.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Finally someone who makes sense.And frankly the Lenovo hardware will feel rubbish compared to the Macbook Pro and surely the iPad.
Apple builds nice hardware...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119806</id>
	<title>Got a message for you</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1265971140000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Apple is not getting off your damn lawn.  Sorry.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Apple is not getting off your damn lawn .
Sorry .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Apple is not getting off your damn lawn.
Sorry.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119336</id>
	<title>Fujitsu</title>
	<author>EkriirkE</author>
	<datestamp>1265970000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Fujitsu's Stylistic series has been around forever and is/does what the iPad is/does plus a plethora more.
<br> <br>
Nothing novel or revolutionary has happened here, move along...</htmltext>
<tokenext>Fujitsu 's Stylistic series has been around forever and is/does what the iPad is/does plus a plethora more .
Nothing novel or revolutionary has happened here , move along.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Fujitsu's Stylistic series has been around forever and is/does what the iPad is/does plus a plethora more.
Nothing novel or revolutionary has happened here, move along...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31122402</id>
	<title>Re:I don't want a tablet that's a computer</title>
	<author>uniquename72</author>
	<datestamp>1265981160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Adding the functionality to please both groups of users would be trivial. THAT'S why the iPad fails.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Adding the functionality to please both groups of users would be trivial .
THAT 'S why the iPad fails .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Adding the functionality to please both groups of users would be trivial.
THAT'S why the iPad fails.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31121366</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>imerso</author>
	<datestamp>1265976480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Hi, I'm imerso, and I'm impressed by the iPad. I will buy one for me. Oh... and I program computers for a living (20+ years experience).</htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi , I 'm imerso , and I 'm impressed by the iPad .
I will buy one for me .
Oh... and I program computers for a living ( 20 + years experience ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi, I'm imerso, and I'm impressed by the iPad.
I will buy one for me.
Oh... and I program computers for a living (20+ years experience).</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120028</id>
	<title>Pretty sure that would work.</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1265971860000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The PDF viewer for OS X / iPhone is pretty heavily optimized, and I'm pretty sure is memory mapping the files to read in pages.  Have you tried said document on a Touch or iPhone?  That would tell you much I think...</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The PDF viewer for OS X / iPhone is pretty heavily optimized , and I 'm pretty sure is memory mapping the files to read in pages .
Have you tried said document on a Touch or iPhone ?
That would tell you much I think.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The PDF viewer for OS X / iPhone is pretty heavily optimized, and I'm pretty sure is memory mapping the files to read in pages.
Have you tried said document on a Touch or iPhone?
That would tell you much I think...</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120360</id>
	<title>I'm pretty sure we all noticed it</title>
	<author>Kalewa</author>
	<datestamp>1265972880000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>3</modscore>
	<htmltext>The reason I'm not paying any attention to the U1 is because apparently Lenovo doesn't want me to.  Around CES there was a bunch of buzz about it, but then Lenovo completely let it drop off the radar.  No pricing, no release data, no live demo units at CES.  It's like they were trying to kill it.  Bummer too, because it's not a bad concept.  I can only assume they had some kind of massive hardware or software problems, and decided to keep it under wraps a little while longer.</htmltext>
<tokenext>The reason I 'm not paying any attention to the U1 is because apparently Lenovo does n't want me to .
Around CES there was a bunch of buzz about it , but then Lenovo completely let it drop off the radar .
No pricing , no release data , no live demo units at CES .
It 's like they were trying to kill it .
Bummer too , because it 's not a bad concept .
I can only assume they had some kind of massive hardware or software problems , and decided to keep it under wraps a little while longer .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The reason I'm not paying any attention to the U1 is because apparently Lenovo doesn't want me to.
Around CES there was a bunch of buzz about it, but then Lenovo completely let it drop off the radar.
No pricing, no release data, no live demo units at CES.
It's like they were trying to kill it.
Bummer too, because it's not a bad concept.
I can only assume they had some kind of massive hardware or software problems, and decided to keep it under wraps a little while longer.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118636</id>
	<title>Still not what I wanted</title>
	<author>TwiztidK</author>
	<datestamp>1265968200000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>This is still not what I wanted the iPad to be. I wanted a slate form-factor, laptop comparable specs, non-proprietary ports (USB), a stylus interface, and a slick, new OS. I got a big iPod Touch and a laptop that turns into a big iPod Touch; I don't think I'll buy either.</htmltext>
<tokenext>This is still not what I wanted the iPad to be .
I wanted a slate form-factor , laptop comparable specs , non-proprietary ports ( USB ) , a stylus interface , and a slick , new OS .
I got a big iPod Touch and a laptop that turns into a big iPod Touch ; I do n't think I 'll buy either .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>This is still not what I wanted the iPad to be.
I wanted a slate form-factor, laptop comparable specs, non-proprietary ports (USB), a stylus interface, and a slick, new OS.
I got a big iPod Touch and a laptop that turns into a big iPod Touch; I don't think I'll buy either.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31124042</id>
	<title>So why is this better then tablets of yesterday ?</title>
	<author>leroyk</author>
	<datestamp>1265992920000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I had a tablet. I far as I can see this is a faster cousin with the same core benefits. Zero apps. No one wrote applications to take advantage of the first tablets. Who is going to write apps for this generation ? Show me some apps and maybe I will bite.  I sold my Acer one year later. Show me the apps !</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I had a tablet .
I far as I can see this is a faster cousin with the same core benefits .
Zero apps .
No one wrote applications to take advantage of the first tablets .
Who is going to write apps for this generation ?
Show me some apps and maybe I will bite .
I sold my Acer one year later .
Show me the apps !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I had a tablet.
I far as I can see this is a faster cousin with the same core benefits.
Zero apps.
No one wrote applications to take advantage of the first tablets.
Who is going to write apps for this generation ?
Show me some apps and maybe I will bite.
I sold my Acer one year later.
Show me the apps !</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119854</id>
	<title>Re:Here's why.</title>
	<author>SoupIsGoodFood\_42</author>
	<datestamp>1265971260000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>You want what's unlikely to succeed. Traditional desktop OSs don't work well on a decent sized touchscreen-only tablet. That is what most people want. Along with an OS that was specifically designed for the product. Anything that runs Windows 7 will either be a usability joke because of the hacked interface to fit a small screen and the lack of power to do basic things, or unpractical because it will be large enough to provide the full power of a laptop system including a large screen for a mediocre desktop experience (don't forget your stylus and to work on those arm muscles).</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>You want what 's unlikely to succeed .
Traditional desktop OSs do n't work well on a decent sized touchscreen-only tablet .
That is what most people want .
Along with an OS that was specifically designed for the product .
Anything that runs Windows 7 will either be a usability joke because of the hacked interface to fit a small screen and the lack of power to do basic things , or unpractical because it will be large enough to provide the full power of a laptop system including a large screen for a mediocre desktop experience ( do n't forget your stylus and to work on those arm muscles ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>You want what's unlikely to succeed.
Traditional desktop OSs don't work well on a decent sized touchscreen-only tablet.
That is what most people want.
Along with an OS that was specifically designed for the product.
Anything that runs Windows 7 will either be a usability joke because of the hacked interface to fit a small screen and the lack of power to do basic things, or unpractical because it will be large enough to provide the full power of a laptop system including a large screen for a mediocre desktop experience (don't forget your stylus and to work on those arm muscles).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119378</id>
	<title>$1,000 and overcomplicated?</title>
	<author>Croakus</author>
	<datestamp>1265970060000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Sorry, but I did not want the iPad to be overcomplicated and overpriced.  The U1 looks like it'll break first week.  And good luck getting it fixed.  It's not like Lenovo has stores just down the road where I can take their proprietary machines.  I'd take an iPad in a heartbeat over this.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Sorry , but I did not want the iPad to be overcomplicated and overpriced .
The U1 looks like it 'll break first week .
And good luck getting it fixed .
It 's not like Lenovo has stores just down the road where I can take their proprietary machines .
I 'd take an iPad in a heartbeat over this .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Sorry, but I did not want the iPad to be overcomplicated and overpriced.
The U1 looks like it'll break first week.
And good luck getting it fixed.
It's not like Lenovo has stores just down the road where I can take their proprietary machines.
I'd take an iPad in a heartbeat over this.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119756</id>
	<title>Re:Here's why.</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265970960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Troll</modclass>
	<modscore>-1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>&gt; Something more than a larger over priced iTouch?</p><p>WTF is an "iTouch"???</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>&gt; Something more than a larger over priced iTouch ? WTF is an " iTouch " ? ?
?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>&gt; Something more than a larger over priced iTouch?WTF is an "iTouch"??
?</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31124804</id>
	<title>Re:For the same price: iPad + MacBook Pro + 2 iPod</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1266001680000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yep, but what you can't do with that setup is decide to take your current session from laptop form to tablet form. The lenovo can do that. Do some work on the laptop, then decide you want to browse on the couch in tablet mode and poof, you're there with your browser happily going without you having to manage another device and open all your tabs again. The Lenovo is somthing new and truly innovative (though it's not quite there yet), not some evolutionary fake-innovative device. Stop being an apologist.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yep , but what you ca n't do with that setup is decide to take your current session from laptop form to tablet form .
The lenovo can do that .
Do some work on the laptop , then decide you want to browse on the couch in tablet mode and poof , you 're there with your browser happily going without you having to manage another device and open all your tabs again .
The Lenovo is somthing new and truly innovative ( though it 's not quite there yet ) , not some evolutionary fake-innovative device .
Stop being an apologist .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yep, but what you can't do with that setup is decide to take your current session from laptop form to tablet form.
The lenovo can do that.
Do some work on the laptop, then decide you want to browse on the couch in tablet mode and poof, you're there with your browser happily going without you having to manage another device and open all your tabs again.
The Lenovo is somthing new and truly innovative (though it's not quite there yet), not some evolutionary fake-innovative device.
Stop being an apologist.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119390</id>
	<title>I already have my idea pad/ipad</title>
	<author>Sheik Yerbouti</author>
	<datestamp>1265970120000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I just picked up an Asus 1201N which is bascially a netbook on steroids. It's not a normal netbook it can do full 1080P video and play 3D games like WOW becuase it is a dual core Atom and has Nvidia ION graphics. Personally I think it is a much better device than the iPad. You can do all of the same things with it that you can do with the iPad and much more for $480.You can watch videos (including flash videos for free on hulu)  read books from the Kindle store or wherever else you can buy ebooks with a PC. You can play free flash games online. It has a built in physical keyboard the 12 inch screen is plenty for surfing the web you can use whatever browser you want Chrome Safari, Firefox. You can run linux on it. You can play lots of older 3D games for example HL2 plays really well. You can stick the SDHC card in from your camera while on a trip and DL your pics for storage and viewing in Picasa.  It's light weight low power and energy effecient. It has regular old USB ports so you can plug stuff in you already have. You can program on it I use eclipse on mine all the time. You can do 3d modeling with Blender or knock out an illustration in Inkscape or use all sorts of great open source and free software on it. You can use many thousands of great commercial Windows apps including Microsoft Office I even do some light music production on mine in EnergyXT. I know no Apple fanboys will be convinced but I really think it is superior to the limited, proprietary, and locked down iPad. Only drawback I see is the battery life but of course since it's removable you can just cary two. I love mine and feel no need to get an iPad or this Idea Pad either which is cool but I am betting is going to be close to 1k price wise. Here are the specs</p><p>dual core 1.6 ghz atom<br>Nvidia 9400M/ION graphics will play full 1080P video and World of Warcraft<br>2 GB ram<br>250 GB HD<br>12.1 inch led backlit display<br>HDMI and VGA out<br>3 USB ports<br>1 SD slot<br>Audio in and out<br>~5 hours of battery life more like 4.5 in real world<br>Webcam<br>wireless b/g/n</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I just picked up an Asus 1201N which is bascially a netbook on steroids .
It 's not a normal netbook it can do full 1080P video and play 3D games like WOW becuase it is a dual core Atom and has Nvidia ION graphics .
Personally I think it is a much better device than the iPad .
You can do all of the same things with it that you can do with the iPad and much more for $ 480.You can watch videos ( including flash videos for free on hulu ) read books from the Kindle store or wherever else you can buy ebooks with a PC .
You can play free flash games online .
It has a built in physical keyboard the 12 inch screen is plenty for surfing the web you can use whatever browser you want Chrome Safari , Firefox .
You can run linux on it .
You can play lots of older 3D games for example HL2 plays really well .
You can stick the SDHC card in from your camera while on a trip and DL your pics for storage and viewing in Picasa .
It 's light weight low power and energy effecient .
It has regular old USB ports so you can plug stuff in you already have .
You can program on it I use eclipse on mine all the time .
You can do 3d modeling with Blender or knock out an illustration in Inkscape or use all sorts of great open source and free software on it .
You can use many thousands of great commercial Windows apps including Microsoft Office I even do some light music production on mine in EnergyXT .
I know no Apple fanboys will be convinced but I really think it is superior to the limited , proprietary , and locked down iPad .
Only drawback I see is the battery life but of course since it 's removable you can just cary two .
I love mine and feel no need to get an iPad or this Idea Pad either which is cool but I am betting is going to be close to 1k price wise .
Here are the specsdual core 1.6 ghz atomNvidia 9400M/ION graphics will play full 1080P video and World of Warcraft2 GB ram250 GB HD12.1 inch led backlit displayHDMI and VGA out3 USB ports1 SD slotAudio in and out ~ 5 hours of battery life more like 4.5 in real worldWebcamwireless b/g/n</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I just picked up an Asus 1201N which is bascially a netbook on steroids.
It's not a normal netbook it can do full 1080P video and play 3D games like WOW becuase it is a dual core Atom and has Nvidia ION graphics.
Personally I think it is a much better device than the iPad.
You can do all of the same things with it that you can do with the iPad and much more for $480.You can watch videos (including flash videos for free on hulu)  read books from the Kindle store or wherever else you can buy ebooks with a PC.
You can play free flash games online.
It has a built in physical keyboard the 12 inch screen is plenty for surfing the web you can use whatever browser you want Chrome Safari, Firefox.
You can run linux on it.
You can play lots of older 3D games for example HL2 plays really well.
You can stick the SDHC card in from your camera while on a trip and DL your pics for storage and viewing in Picasa.
It's light weight low power and energy effecient.
It has regular old USB ports so you can plug stuff in you already have.
You can program on it I use eclipse on mine all the time.
You can do 3d modeling with Blender or knock out an illustration in Inkscape or use all sorts of great open source and free software on it.
You can use many thousands of great commercial Windows apps including Microsoft Office I even do some light music production on mine in EnergyXT.
I know no Apple fanboys will be convinced but I really think it is superior to the limited, proprietary, and locked down iPad.
Only drawback I see is the battery life but of course since it's removable you can just cary two.
I love mine and feel no need to get an iPad or this Idea Pad either which is cool but I am betting is going to be close to 1k price wise.
Here are the specsdual core 1.6 ghz atomNvidia 9400M/ION graphics will play full 1080P video and World of Warcraft2 GB ram250 GB HD12.1 inch led backlit displayHDMI and VGA out3 USB ports1 SD slotAudio in and out~5 hours of battery life more like 4.5 in real worldWebcamwireless b/g/n</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31122364</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>uniquename72</author>
	<datestamp>1265980980000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>That's a growth path that doesn't (and won't) exist. <br> <br>
1) Textbooks don't magically become half-priced by going online, just like regular books don't.<br>
2) Students already don't have lots of $$, and could spend half the price for a Kindle.<br> <br>

Your point about the iPod is almost a good one, except that, when the iPod came out, it did what every other mp3 player did, only better. Once the price came down, it was the clear go-to device for music. Other features were added after customers were locked in.<br> <br>

The iPad fills no niche at all. It can't do 90\% of what I need a netbook to do, leaving it as an overpriced ebook reader (which is, of course, why you chose that as your "one growth path" example).</htmltext>
<tokenext>That 's a growth path that does n't ( and wo n't ) exist .
1 ) Textbooks do n't magically become half-priced by going online , just like regular books do n't .
2 ) Students already do n't have lots of $ $ , and could spend half the price for a Kindle .
Your point about the iPod is almost a good one , except that , when the iPod came out , it did what every other mp3 player did , only better .
Once the price came down , it was the clear go-to device for music .
Other features were added after customers were locked in .
The iPad fills no niche at all .
It ca n't do 90 \ % of what I need a netbook to do , leaving it as an overpriced ebook reader ( which is , of course , why you chose that as your " one growth path " example ) .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>That's a growth path that doesn't (and won't) exist.
1) Textbooks don't magically become half-priced by going online, just like regular books don't.
2) Students already don't have lots of $$, and could spend half the price for a Kindle.
Your point about the iPod is almost a good one, except that, when the iPod came out, it did what every other mp3 player did, only better.
Once the price came down, it was the clear go-to device for music.
Other features were added after customers were locked in.
The iPad fills no niche at all.
It can't do 90\% of what I need a netbook to do, leaving it as an overpriced ebook reader (which is, of course, why you chose that as your "one growth path" example).</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31121954</id>
	<title>Same problmes as the iPad, expect more so</title>
	<author>NatteringNabob</author>
	<datestamp>1265979180000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext>Too heavy, too short battery life, and not as readable as a dedicated eBook reader for reading, not powerful enough, screen too small to be a decent laptop, and not as portable as a 3G cell phone if all you need to do is get directions or something.  The problem with all the 'touch pad' like products is that they fill a much needed gap in the computer products. landscape.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Too heavy , too short battery life , and not as readable as a dedicated eBook reader for reading , not powerful enough , screen too small to be a decent laptop , and not as portable as a 3G cell phone if all you need to do is get directions or something .
The problem with all the 'touch pad ' like products is that they fill a much needed gap in the computer products .
landscape .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Too heavy, too short battery life, and not as readable as a dedicated eBook reader for reading, not powerful enough, screen too small to be a decent laptop, and not as portable as a 3G cell phone if all you need to do is get directions or something.
The problem with all the 'touch pad' like products is that they fill a much needed gap in the computer products.
landscape.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120586</id>
	<title>active digitizer</title>
	<author>TheTick21</author>
	<datestamp>1265973660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>If the ipad had an active digitizer I would be interested. All I want is a freaking cheap slate to take notes on. I HAVE several laptops (and a tablet), but if I could just have ONE powerful laptop and one small slate I would be much happier. As it is I still have no idea what the ipad would actually be good for.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>If the ipad had an active digitizer I would be interested .
All I want is a freaking cheap slate to take notes on .
I HAVE several laptops ( and a tablet ) , but if I could just have ONE powerful laptop and one small slate I would be much happier .
As it is I still have no idea what the ipad would actually be good for .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>If the ipad had an active digitizer I would be interested.
All I want is a freaking cheap slate to take notes on.
I HAVE several laptops (and a tablet), but if I could just have ONE powerful laptop and one small slate I would be much happier.
As it is I still have no idea what the ipad would actually be good for.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119080</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265969220000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Yeah, totally.  I mean, it's got no wireless?  And less space than a Nomad?  Lame.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Yeah , totally .
I mean , it 's got no wireless ?
And less space than a Nomad ?
Lame .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Yeah, totally.
I mean, it's got no wireless?
And less space than a Nomad?
Lame.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119170</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Viewer performance</title>
	<author>masmullin</author>
	<datestamp>1265969460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want a reflective screen option (eink-pixel qi) as I have to concentrate very hard when reading technical pdfs, and my eyes start to go buggy after 15min of LCD viewing.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want a reflective screen option ( eink-pixel qi ) as I have to concentrate very hard when reading technical pdfs , and my eyes start to go buggy after 15min of LCD viewing .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want a reflective screen option (eink-pixel qi) as I have to concentrate very hard when reading technical pdfs, and my eyes start to go buggy after 15min of LCD viewing.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31121352</id>
	<title>Wikipedia?</title>
	<author>dsinc</author>
	<datestamp>1265976360000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I'm currently looking to buy one of those e-reader gizmos; I was hoping Apple would come up with something better than the Kindle - but it didn't happen - for me - because the Kindle still rules with <b>free access to Wikipedia</b>. Don't know about others, but I'm a very heavy user of Wikipedia (physicist, history nerd); a color screen, various apps etc - those are just niceties for me (BTW: I own two MacBooks which pretty much delight me, as I've been a Unix guy since the Eighties); I couldn't care less about additional data plans, 3G and stuff - the <b>free access to Wikipedia</b> weighs very heavily in favor of the Kindle, as maligned as it may be. Again: this is just me, your personal situation is certain to be different.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I 'm currently looking to buy one of those e-reader gizmos ; I was hoping Apple would come up with something better than the Kindle - but it did n't happen - for me - because the Kindle still rules with free access to Wikipedia .
Do n't know about others , but I 'm a very heavy user of Wikipedia ( physicist , history nerd ) ; a color screen , various apps etc - those are just niceties for me ( BTW : I own two MacBooks which pretty much delight me , as I 've been a Unix guy since the Eighties ) ; I could n't care less about additional data plans , 3G and stuff - the free access to Wikipedia weighs very heavily in favor of the Kindle , as maligned as it may be .
Again : this is just me , your personal situation is certain to be different .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I'm currently looking to buy one of those e-reader gizmos; I was hoping Apple would come up with something better than the Kindle - but it didn't happen - for me - because the Kindle still rules with free access to Wikipedia.
Don't know about others, but I'm a very heavy user of Wikipedia (physicist, history nerd); a color screen, various apps etc - those are just niceties for me (BTW: I own two MacBooks which pretty much delight me, as I've been a Unix guy since the Eighties); I couldn't care less about additional data plans, 3G and stuff - the free access to Wikipedia weighs very heavily in favor of the Kindle, as maligned as it may be.
Again: this is just me, your personal situation is certain to be different.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119148</id>
	<title>Obligitory Plug</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265969400000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm" title="alwaysinnovating.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm</a> [alwaysinnovating.com]

detachable touchscreen, 10 hr battery life, extensible as all hell, and all for $400...</htmltext>
<tokenext>http : //www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm [ alwaysinnovating.com ] detachable touchscreen , 10 hr battery life , extensible as all hell , and all for $ 400.. .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm [alwaysinnovating.com]

detachable touchscreen, 10 hr battery life, extensible as all hell, and all for $400...</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31131824</id>
	<title>Mod parent down</title>
	<author>mdwh2</author>
	<datestamp>1266074460000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Mod parent -1, doesn't understand basic logic, but still gets pro-Apple mods to mod down anyone who dares point this out.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Mod parent -1 , does n't understand basic logic , but still gets pro-Apple mods to mod down anyone who dares point this out .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Mod parent -1, doesn't understand basic logic, but still gets pro-Apple mods to mod down anyone who dares point this out.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120402</id>
	<title>What about the "Touch Book" by Always Innovating?</title>
	<author>walterbyrd</author>
	<datestamp>1265973000000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>It runs Linux. I think it's been shipping since last summer.</p><p><a href="http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/" title="alwaysinnovating.com">http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/</a> [alwaysinnovating.com]</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>It runs Linux .
I think it 's been shipping since last summer.http : //www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ [ alwaysinnovating.com ]</tokentext>
<sentencetext>It runs Linux.
I think it's been shipping since last summer.http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/ [alwaysinnovating.com]</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118902</id>
	<title>Wow!  Two Operating Systems to Maintain!</title>
	<author>SuperKendall</author>
	<datestamp>1265968800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The U1 seems like a cool idea.  But two operating systems to maintain, with all of the loss of application fidelity that entails?</p><p>Count me out.  And what is really the difference when I can just also carry a bluetooth keyboard with an iPad.  What if someone makes an iPad case with bluetooth keyboard built in?  Then how is the U1 really superior?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The U1 seems like a cool idea .
But two operating systems to maintain , with all of the loss of application fidelity that entails ? Count me out .
And what is really the difference when I can just also carry a bluetooth keyboard with an iPad .
What if someone makes an iPad case with bluetooth keyboard built in ?
Then how is the U1 really superior ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The U1 seems like a cool idea.
But two operating systems to maintain, with all of the loss of application fidelity that entails?Count me out.
And what is really the difference when I can just also carry a bluetooth keyboard with an iPad.
What if someone makes an iPad case with bluetooth keyboard built in?
Then how is the U1 really superior?</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118384</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>VShael</author>
	<datestamp>1265967540000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext><p><i>People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad, but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core, tinker-happy nerds...</i></p><p>I disagree. Most of my friends are <strong>not</strong> hard core tinker happy nerds. And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad. In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.</p><p>Not one.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad , but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core , tinker-happy nerds...I disagree .
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds .
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad .
In fact , I do n't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>People keep talking as if Apple really missed the boat with iPad, but the truth is they only missed the boat for hard-core, tinker-happy nerds...I disagree.
Most of my friends are not hard core tinker happy nerds.
And they were all underwhelmed with the iPad.
In fact, I don't know a single person who was actually impressed by it.Not one.</sentencetext>
	<parent>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118032</parent>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31120016</id>
	<title>Always Innovating</title>
	<author>xav\_jones</author>
	<datestamp>1265971800000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><a href="http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/" title="alwaysinnovating.com">Always Innovating</a> [alwaysinnovating.com] has something very similar shipping already. ARM-based with 10 hours of battery life when you include the keyboard section -- plus it's open source.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Always Innovating [ alwaysinnovating.com ] has something very similar shipping already .
ARM-based with 10 hours of battery life when you include the keyboard section -- plus it 's open source .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Always Innovating [alwaysinnovating.com] has something very similar shipping already.
ARM-based with 10 hours of battery life when you include the keyboard section -- plus it's open source.</sentencetext>
</comment>
<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119750</id>
	<title>OB Rick Mercer</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265970960000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext>Rick Mercer presents, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AIDA\_zM0IM" title="youtube.com" rel="nofollow">the iSlab</a> [youtube.com].</htmltext>
<tokenext>Rick Mercer presents , the iSlab [ youtube.com ] .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Rick Mercer presents, the iSlab [youtube.com].</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31121836</id>
	<title>Re:I don't want a tablet that's a computer</title>
	<author>jaymz666</author>
	<datestamp>1265978700000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>I want something that I can sit on the nightstand and pull up a VPN connection to restart an app server at 3am over the VPN, something the iPad sure as hell can't do.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>I want something that I can sit on the nightstand and pull up a VPN connection to restart an app server at 3am over the VPN , something the iPad sure as hell ca n't do .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>I want something that I can sit on the nightstand and pull up a VPN connection to restart an app server at 3am over the VPN, something the iPad sure as hell can't do.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118432</id>
	<title>PDF Viewer performance</title>
	<author>kmahan</author>
	<datestamp>1265967660000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Interestin</modclass>
	<modscore>2</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>What I want to know is "how good is the pdf viewer"?</p><p>I'm interested in a pad that can rapidly display technical PDFs that are 1000+ pages long full of tables and drawings.  i.e., hardware datasheets and schematics.</p><p>It needs to have decent searching and a fast page-to-page display capability.</p><p>Any idea if the IdeaPad or the iPad has demonstrated this ability?</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>What I want to know is " how good is the pdf viewer " ? I 'm interested in a pad that can rapidly display technical PDFs that are 1000 + pages long full of tables and drawings .
i.e. , hardware datasheets and schematics.It needs to have decent searching and a fast page-to-page display capability.Any idea if the IdeaPad or the iPad has demonstrated this ability ?</tokentext>
<sentencetext>What I want to know is "how good is the pdf viewer"?I'm interested in a pad that can rapidly display technical PDFs that are 1000+ pages long full of tables and drawings.
i.e., hardware datasheets and schematics.It needs to have decent searching and a fast page-to-page display capability.Any idea if the IdeaPad or the iPad has demonstrated this ability?</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119530</id>
	<title>No way!</title>
	<author>countertrolling</author>
	<datestamp>1265970480000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>A touchpad? No trackpoint?? Forget it!</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>A touchpad ?
No trackpoint ? ?
Forget it !</tokentext>
<sentencetext>A touchpad?
No trackpoint??
Forget it!</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31118986</id>
	<title>Re:But what did Apple want?</title>
	<author>Anonymous</author>
	<datestamp>1265969040000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>0</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>Hi! Nice to meet you. My name is Mike. I'm a software developer who lives in Canada. I like hiking, camping, and kayaking.</p><p>I was impressed with the iPad. Furthermore, my parents actually called *me* up and asked when they could get one. That floored me, because they're both in their 70s and have shown no interest in computers until now.</p><p>So there. Now you know 3 people who were impressed by the iPad.</p><p>You should really get out more.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>Hi !
Nice to meet you .
My name is Mike .
I 'm a software developer who lives in Canada .
I like hiking , camping , and kayaking.I was impressed with the iPad .
Furthermore , my parents actually called * me * up and asked when they could get one .
That floored me , because they 're both in their 70s and have shown no interest in computers until now.So there .
Now you know 3 people who were impressed by the iPad.You should really get out more .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Hi!
Nice to meet you.
My name is Mike.
I'm a software developer who lives in Canada.
I like hiking, camping, and kayaking.I was impressed with the iPad.
Furthermore, my parents actually called *me* up and asked when they could get one.
That floored me, because they're both in their 70s and have shown no interest in computers until now.So there.
Now you know 3 people who were impressed by the iPad.You should really get out more.</sentencetext>
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<comment>
	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119880</id>
	<title>Re:PDF Viewer performance</title>
	<author>jo\_ham</author>
	<datestamp>1265971320000</datestamp>
	<modclass>None</modclass>
	<modscore>1</modscore>
	<htmltext><p>The Preview app in OS X itself is pretty speedy with PDFs - much better and faster that the official Adobe PDF reader for Mac. Preview is the best and fastest PDF viewer I have used in fact, but it is not perfect, especially with complex PDFs that have embedded things in like data entry fields and so on. It also sometimes has graphical glitches - but I have only ever seen this with PDFs created by InDesign CS, so it may be unique to the output from that particular app.</p><p>It uses Quartz in OS X for doing this, which is also used by the iPhone, so PDFs on there display exactly the same.</p><p>Your best bet would be to see how your PDFs, especially 1000+ page ones, behave in Preview - that is pretty much exactly what they will do on the iPad (but with a 1Ghz cpu). Take a USB stick down to an Apple store and have a go if you have one nearby (unless you already have a Mac).</p><p>I know I can take a huge PDF (200+ pages, so not as big as yours) and leaf through it very quickly with no screen lag in OS X in Preview. There is obviously going to be a performance hit on a 1Ghz cpu, but I can tell you the app itself is not cripplingly slow, sluggish or bloated like the Adobe PDF reader is.</p></htmltext>
<tokenext>The Preview app in OS X itself is pretty speedy with PDFs - much better and faster that the official Adobe PDF reader for Mac .
Preview is the best and fastest PDF viewer I have used in fact , but it is not perfect , especially with complex PDFs that have embedded things in like data entry fields and so on .
It also sometimes has graphical glitches - but I have only ever seen this with PDFs created by InDesign CS , so it may be unique to the output from that particular app.It uses Quartz in OS X for doing this , which is also used by the iPhone , so PDFs on there display exactly the same.Your best bet would be to see how your PDFs , especially 1000 + page ones , behave in Preview - that is pretty much exactly what they will do on the iPad ( but with a 1Ghz cpu ) .
Take a USB stick down to an Apple store and have a go if you have one nearby ( unless you already have a Mac ) .I know I can take a huge PDF ( 200 + pages , so not as big as yours ) and leaf through it very quickly with no screen lag in OS X in Preview .
There is obviously going to be a performance hit on a 1Ghz cpu , but I can tell you the app itself is not cripplingly slow , sluggish or bloated like the Adobe PDF reader is .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>The Preview app in OS X itself is pretty speedy with PDFs - much better and faster that the official Adobe PDF reader for Mac.
Preview is the best and fastest PDF viewer I have used in fact, but it is not perfect, especially with complex PDFs that have embedded things in like data entry fields and so on.
It also sometimes has graphical glitches - but I have only ever seen this with PDFs created by InDesign CS, so it may be unique to the output from that particular app.It uses Quartz in OS X for doing this, which is also used by the iPhone, so PDFs on there display exactly the same.Your best bet would be to see how your PDFs, especially 1000+ page ones, behave in Preview - that is pretty much exactly what they will do on the iPad (but with a 1Ghz cpu).
Take a USB stick down to an Apple store and have a go if you have one nearby (unless you already have a Mac).I know I can take a huge PDF (200+ pages, so not as big as yours) and leaf through it very quickly with no screen lag in OS X in Preview.
There is obviously going to be a performance hit on a 1Ghz cpu, but I can tell you the app itself is not cripplingly slow, sluggish or bloated like the Adobe PDF reader is.</sentencetext>
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	<id>http://www.semanticweb.org/ontologies/ConversationInstances.owl#comment10_02_12_1814217.31119034</id>
	<title>Touchscreen looks bad/choppy</title>
	<author>kuzb</author>
	<datestamp>1265969160000</datestamp>
	<modclass>Informativ</modclass>
	<modscore>4</modscore>
	<htmltext>Watch the videos where he's trying to do navigation.  It seems like this is exactly what Apple doesn't want - lag and unreposonsiveness.</htmltext>
<tokenext>Watch the videos where he 's trying to do navigation .
It seems like this is exactly what Apple does n't want - lag and unreposonsiveness .</tokentext>
<sentencetext>Watch the videos where he's trying to do navigation.
It seems like this is exactly what Apple doesn't want - lag and unreposonsiveness.</sentencetext>
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